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OKAY.

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UH, THAT BEING SAID,

[Call to Order]

IT IS 2 0 6 AND I'M CALLING TODAY'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.

CAN STAFF DO THE ATTENDANCE COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER ROY EGRIN.

PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER JULIA CARILLO.

COMMISSIONER JUNE CAUSTIC PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER JACKSON.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE? HERE.

COMMISSIONER PECK PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

PRESENT.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA PRESENT, A QUORUM IS PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

[Consent Agenda]

NEXT OF THE AGENDA WILL BE, ACTUALLY WE'LL DO, OKAY, SO TODAY WE HAVE TWO AGENDAS.

THE FIRST AGENDA IS THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA, AND THOSE ARE CASES THAT ARE PLACED ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA ARE CASES WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION DOES NOT REQUIRE FURTHER DETAILED DISCUSSION.

AND FINALLY, NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THE ITEM.

ALL CASES WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD FOR ONE UNIFIED MOTION.

IF SOMEONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, THEN THAT ITEM WILL BE MOVED TO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA.

THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA WILL ARE CASES THAT WILL BE DISCUSSED SEPARATELY PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MAKING A MOTION AND WILL BEGIN WITH THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.

UM, WE WILL HAVE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, BUT THOSE BE AN INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

AND IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS WITHDRAWN, WE'LL DO THAT BEFORE WE GO.

WE'LL DO THAT LATER ON TODAY.

AND IF YOU, JUST A REMINDER, UM, ITEM NUMBER FIVE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN.

IS THAT CORRECT? IT HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

IT HAS BEEN POSTPONED.

SO IF THAT ITEM, UH, IS TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS COMMISSION, IT WOULD REQUIRE NEW PUBLIC NOTICES TO BE MAILED TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY? SO IT IS POSTPONED.

WE WILL NOT BE HEARING THAT CASE TODAY.

THE COMMISSION WILL NOT BE MAKING ANY DECISIONS ON IT TODAY.

AND AS YOU HEARD, UH, WHEN IF THEY DO DECIDE TO BRING IT BACK BEFORE PLANNING, UH, ANOTHER SET OF NOTICES WILL BE GOING ON.

THAT BEING SAID, IF YOU STILL WISH TO SPEAK TODAY, YOU MAY, UH, IF YOU WISH TO WAIT TILL THAT TIME, YOU CAN DO THAT ALSO.

OKAY.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE ITEMS NUMBER FOUR AND ITEMS NUMBER SIX FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? ANYBODY WISH TO PULL ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS? DID EVERYBODY SIGN UP TO SPEAK THAT WISHES TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK? THAT BEING SAID, THEN WE WILL HAVE A STAFF READ INTO THE RECORD THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.

MY NAME IS CALLIE FORD AND I'M A PLANNER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF CAN YOU ADJUST THE MIC? OH YEAH, SORRY.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ITEMS FOUR AND SIX, WHICH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IN ITEMS FIVE, WHICH HAVE BEEN POSTPONED AND WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED IN TODAY'S AGENDA.

THE BALANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED BY THE COMMISSION UNDER A SINGLE MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PECK, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MICHAEL AND GARCIA.

CAN STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER PECK.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER ROY ALLEG GREENY? YES.

COMMISSIONER CAUSTIC AYE.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT AYE.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE? AYE.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

MOTION PASSES.

THE NEXT ITEM WE WILL HEAR

[6. PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600093 (Council District 8): A request by Brown & Ortiz, representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the North Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Mixed Use Center" to "General Urban Tier" and “Regional Center” on the south 65 feet of Lot 12, Block 3, NCB 14687; Lot 7, Block 12, NCB 14696; and Lot 7, Block 11, NCB 14695, generally located in the 8000 block of Oakland Road and the 5700 block of Richview Street. Staff recommends Denial with an Alternate Recommendation. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700321) (Mercedes Rivas, Sr. Planner (210) 207-0215, mercedes.rivas2@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]

TODAY IS ITEM NUMBER SIX.

APPLICANT.

DO THE, UH, PRESENTATION MERCEDES REVA SENIOR PLANNER WITH ZONING.

ITEM SIX.

PLAN AMENDMENT CASE NUMBER PA 2 0 1 9 DASH HUNDRED 16 0 0 0 9 3

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GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE 800 BLOCK OF OAKLAND ROAD IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE NORTH SECTOR.

PLAN FROM MIXED USE CENTER TO GENERAL URBAN TIER AND REGIONAL COMMERCIAL 45 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

THREE WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR WHEN IN OPPOSITION AND THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

ONCE RE ONCE AMENDED BY THE APPLICANT TO REMOVE THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION.

STAFF WILL RECOMMEND APPROVAL.

THANK YOU.

IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN COMMISSIONERS EMILY WEISLER WITH BROWN AND ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PEON HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, WE WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY AMEND OUR REQUEST TO, UM, REMOVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST TO REGIONAL CENTER.

UM, WE HAVE REDUCED OUR ZONING INTENSITY ON THAT SPECIFIC PARCEL CLOSEST TO BABCOCK AND WILL NOT BE PURSUING A PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THAT PIECE.

WE WOULD STILL LIKE TO PURSUE THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO GENERAL URBAN TIER FOR THE TWO EASTERN PARCELS ALONG OAKLAND ROAD, BUT WE DO NOT REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE PEACE CLOSEST TO BABCOCK.

I'M HERE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, NO ONE SIGNED TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? THERE BEING NONE.

UH, THEN WE'LL HAVE A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.

MOVE FOR APPROVAL.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PECK, A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.

IF, UH, STAFF CAN DO THE ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER PECK.

AYE.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.

COMMISSIONER ROHR EGRIN? YES.

COMMISSIONER CAUSTIC.

COMMISSIONER PROFIT AYE.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA? YES.

MOTION PASSES.

[4. PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600068 (Council District 3): A request by David Dye, applicant, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Heritage South Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Country Tier" to "Agribusiness/RIMSE Tier" on 30.727 acres out of CB 5709, located at 19635 Trumbo Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700202) (Michael Pepe, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]

NEXT THING THE AGENDA WILL BE ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

STAFF, UH, DO THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.

MICHAEL PEPE, PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

THIS IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, LOCATED AT 1 9 6 3 5 TRUMBO ROAD IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE TO AMEND THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN FROM COUNTRY TIER TO AGRIBUSINESS.

R I M SS E TIER EIGHT NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.

NONE WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR.

FIVE.

IN OPPOSITION.

THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

THERE WERE TH THERE WERE 19 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMIT AND 200 FEET STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS AND RELATIONS TO THIS PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.

THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND PRINCIPLES OF THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.

STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.

THE APPLICANT.

UM, GO AHEAD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND GO AHEAD AND PRESENT YOUR CASE.

HELLO, MY NAME IS GEORGE GRAY.

I'M THE O OWNER OF G M B RV PARK AND, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD AN, UH, EXPAND OUR RV PARK THAT IS THERE.

UH, MY WIFE AND I, AMY BRIGGS, HAVE BEEN PURSUING EXPANDING OUR RV PARK FOR SOME TIME NOW.

EVEN BACK WHEN BE OUR COUNTY OR BE BAYER COUNTY WAS ANNEXED.

WE HAVE CONTINUED FORWARD WITH THE EXPANSION OF OUR RV PARK.

UH, THE DRIVE IN US THAT WE ARE HEADED THIS WAY IS THAT WE BELIEVE THAT OUR HEAVENLY FATHER LOST HELPED THE LOST AND HURTING AND THAT WE WERE CALLED TO DO OUR BEST TO HELP THOSE IN NEED.

HE GAVE US AN IDEA OF AN RV PARK THAT COULD HELP SEEKING EMPLOYMENT FOR OTHER PEOPLE THAT MIGHT BE IN NEED OR IN NEED OF LITTLE HELP IN HAVING A ROOF OVER THEIR HEAD WHILE SEEKING FOR A MORE PERMANENT HOUSING.

WITH THAT IN MIND, WE HAD A FEW RENTERS THAT HAD GOTTEN PLACES JOBS AT PLACES LIKE TOYOTA PLANT AND OIL FIELD WORKERS THAT NEEDED TEMPORARY PLACES TO STAY WHILE THEY WERE GETTING SETTLED IN THE AREA.

AND LET'S FACE IT, TODAY, THE FIRST THING IN TODAY'S SOCIETY IN HA GETTING A HOUSE IN A HOUSING MARKET OR A HOME OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU COULD HOUSE YOURSELF IN IS, DO YOU HAVE A JOB?

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SO, SO FAR OUR LITTLE FI SPACE, RV CITY LICENSED RV PARK HAS BEEN ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT AND WE WANT TO EXPAND IT TO HELP EVEN MORE PEOPLE IN THE FUTURE.

WE ALSO WANT TO BE A PART OF THE MAYOR OF SAN ANTONIO'S VISION ON THE PRESENTATION.

HE IS FOCUSED ON MAKING A KEY INFRASTRUCTURE IN ESTIMATES NECESSARY TO ACCOMMODATE THE GROWTH OF SAN ANTONIO.

THIS FORWARD LOOKING APPROACH DRIVES THE MAYOR'S VISION TO A COMPASSIONATE COMMUNITY WITH A GLOBAL COMPETITIVE ECONOMY.

HERE LIES THE PROBLEM, SOMETHING YOU AS A COUNCIL WILL NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ON.

AND THAT IS THE EXPANSION OF OUR RV PARK.

WE BELIEVED THAT OUR NEIGHBORS WERE IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS, BUT NONE OF THEM HAD SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO US UNTIL WE WENT MOVED FORWARD ON EXPANDING OUR PROJECT OF OUR RV PARK.

AND THEN WE FIND OUT THAT ALL OF OUR CLOSE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN HOLDING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND NEVER INVITED US TO HEAR THEIR OPINIONS OR TO VOICE OURS.

AT OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THE CITY OFFICIALS, WE FOUND OUT ALL KINDS OF THINGS WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT.

I WAS VERY SAD.

UH, AND THEN I SET UP A MEETING WITH OUR NEIGHBORS TO DISCUSS IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT I COULD DO TO MAKE THINGS BETTER.

BUT THEY LET ME KNOW THEY WERE NOT GOING TO LET ME EXPAND OUR RV PARK IN WHICH THEY WILL BE SAYING QUITE A LOT ABOUT TODAY IN THEIR OPINIONS ON HOW THAT THIS RV PARK SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE NEIGHBORS WILL SAY THAT IT CAUSES TOO MUCH TRAFFIC FOR THIS LITTLE TRUMBULL ROAD, EVEN THOUGH THAT PLEASANTON ROAD, WHICH IS RIGHT BY THE SAME SIZE OF, OF THAT TWO LANE ROAD, IT HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF SPACE, BUT IT RECEIVES 10 TIMES MORE TRAFFIC THAN THAT OF TRUMBO AND THAT 120 EXTRA RV SPACES WOULD BRING TO TRUMBO.

ANOTHER BIG CONCERN OF THEIRS IS THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF TRAILER PARK TRASH PEOPLE, BUT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS IF THEY ARISE.

I WILL SAY THAT OUR NEIGHBOR MARINA, CLOSEST NEIGHBOR TO THE RV PARK WHO WE THOUGHT WOULD HAD A GOOD RELATIONSHIP, TOLD US THAT WE HAD SOME RENTERS THAT WERE YELLING AND FIGHTING THE OTHER IN, IN A LOUD AGREE, IN A LOUD ARGUMENT.

AND ANOTHER RENTER THAT HAD SOME TRASH AND SOME OLD USED CAR OIL THAT HE HAD DECIDED THAT HE WOULD THROW OVER THE SIDE OF HER FENCE.

WELL, ALL I CAN SAY ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE REMOVE THEM FROM THE PARK.

AND LET ME JUST SAY AT, AT THE RV PARK, UH, WE HAVE RULES ALL OF OUR PEOPLE THAT STAY IN THE PARK, THEY MUST READ AND SIGN THE AGREEMENT DOCUMENT AND THEN WE SEND 'EM ON THEIR WAY AND WE SEND 'EM WITH A COPY SO THEY CAN READ THE RULES.

AND IF THE RULES ARE NOT FOLLOWED, THEN THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE STAYING AT OUR RV PARK.

WE DO NOT WANT TO BE WITH, UH, WHAT OTHERS THINK ABOUT RV PARKS BEING TRASHY AND A BREEDING GROUND FOR BAD THINGS.

WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE AND IF THEY CAN'T FOLLOW THE PARK RULES, THEN THEY MUST NOT WANT TO BE HAVING OUR HELP.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ALL OF OUR RV SPACE RENTERS, THEY MUST SIGN OUR RULES BEFORE WE GRANT THEM TO STAY AT OUR RV PARK.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD TO YOU COUNSEL THAT IF YOU DO ALLOW THE RV PAYING PARK'S EXPANSION TO GROW THROUGHOUT, YOU WILL, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE LAND AND INCLUDING BUILDING CODES AND CITY CODES AND CITY ORDINANCES.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO DAILY KEEP MY NEIGHBORS IN MIND AS WE BUILD, MANAGE THIS RV PARK.

I WILL INSTALL SECURITY CAMERAS SO THAT WHEN I MIGHT NOT BE IN SIGHT OF ANY OF THE TENANTS FOLLOWING THE RV P PARK RULES, I WILL SEE ON A RECORDING AND, AND ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SPEND.

I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SPEND A MOMENT.

YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND RIGHT THERE.

AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE IN AND BE ABLE TO SPEND A LITTLE SECOND EXPLAINING ABOUT THE CURRENT RVS, UH, AND, AND ABOUT, UH, THE MOBILE HOME PARKS LIVING PLAN TO SHOW THAT MY NEIGHBORS THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO DO, AND WE ARE PART OF A MOBILE LIVING PARKS PLAN THAT PHIL LANEY, YOUR SPECIAL PROJECT MANAGER IN THE DEPARTMENT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT, HE SAID THAT ANYONE OF AT THE MEETING, HE SAID THAT HE BELIEVES THAT RV PARKS COULD PLAY A ROLE IN THE HOUSING PLAN THAT THE CITY IS HEADED WITH.

PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO SEE THE FEW GOOD THINGS THAT THE CITY IS DOING TO MAKE A MOBILE HOME LIVING PARK BETTER FOR ALL IN THE FUTURE.

IN, IN THIS, HE'S SAYING THAT, UH, IN 2019 THEY STARTED TO TAKE AND START GETTING THINGS THAT TO BE BETTER.

THEY HAD A LOT OF BAD, BUT ON THE NEXT SLIDE OVER YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY HAD A 75% REDUCTION BECAUSE OF

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STARTING THIS PROJECT.

AND I'M VERY HAPPY THAT WE'RE A PART OF THAT PROJECT AND WE'RE, WE WILL, IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO GO FORWARD, WE'LL TRY TO DO THE SAME AND TRY TO KEEP DOING THE SAME THING AND INCREASE AND IMPROVE AND, AND BE BETTER TO PUT A BETTER NAME OUT THERE ABOUT RV PARKS.

NEXT ONE, THEY ALSO TOLD US ABOUT THIS 3 1 1.

WELL, I THOUGHT THAT WAS WONDERFUL.

I MEAN, THAT TELLS ME THAT YOU DON'T WANT TRASH.

I DON'T WANT TRASH.

YOU TELL ME THAT YOU, YOU DON'T WANT JUNK CARS.

I DON'T WANT THOSE THINGS TO BE THERE EITHER.

UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET THOSE THINGS TAKEN CARE OF AS SOON AS WE COULD FOR ANYTHING THAT COMES UP LIKE THAT BECAUSE I'D SUPPORT TRYING TO BE THAT WAY.

NEXT SLIDE.

WE HAD THE TWO GLORIAS THAT CAME OUT FROM D S D CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY WERE SENT OUT FOR A COMPLAINT THAT, THAT THEY RECEIVED AND THEY'D UNANNOUNCED, THEY CAME OUT TO OUR RV PARK, THEY PERFORMED AN INSPECTION OF OUR RV PARK AND THEN THEY SAID TO US THAT THEY HAD NO VIOLATIONS WERE DONE AND THAT THIS WAS THE CLEANEST PARK THAT THEY HAVE SEEN IN A WHILE.

WHOEVER MADE THE COMPLAINTS DEFINITELY PAINTED A DIFFERENT PICTURE ABOUT THIS PLACE AND THE INSPECTORS THAT WERE THERE JUST WANTED TO GET WITH ME TO TELL ME ABOUT THE ALL OF THE THINGS AND TELL ME TO GET AHOLD OF THEM SO WE COULD TALK ABOUT ALL OF WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE COMPLAINTS.

AND I DID.

NEXT PAGE.

THIS IS THE VIEWPOINT OF, UH, NEIGHBOR A ON ONE SIDE OF OUR SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN THE AREA.

AND ON THE OTHER SIDE IS THE, UH, THE B SIDE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT NEXT TO ME IN THE BACK END.

ALL OF THAT IS, IS, UH, ANOTHER PERSON'S PROPERTY THAT IS, UH, PAOLO BLANCO CREEK.

IT'S A FLOOD PLAIN AREA, BUT IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE, MY PROPERTY IS OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.

THE, THE PARK RV SPOT RIGHT THERE ALONG THE SIDE OF THE GREEN.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO EXPAND.

AND THAT'S THE RV PARK ROAD.

AND THEN ACROSS FROM IT, THERE'S TWO MORE, UH, GRAZING LANDS FOR CATTLE THAT THEY, UH, HAVE BEEN BRINGING IN AND AROUND ALL THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS OVER THERE.

NEXT ONE SHOWS ON THERE THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT OURS IS CURRENTLY RP.

OUR NEIGHBOR A IS RP AND, UH, THAT IT OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS IS THE NEIGHBOR B AND THE ONES IN FRONT ARE, ARE OUTSIDE LIMIT CITY LIMITS AS WELL.

WHETHER THAT MAKES A DIFFERENCE OR NOT ON HOW THINGS GO, JUST WAS TRYING TO BRING IT ACROSS AS TO HOW THEY ARE TO THE PUBLIC.

GO AHEAD.

THIS IS THE CLOSEUP VIEWS OF OUR NEIGHBOR.

AS YOU CAN SEE, SHE'S PRETTY CLOSE TO THE FENCE AND THE FENCE WAS, IS THAT LOW FENCE AT ONE POINT IN TIME AND NOW IT'S A HIGHER FENCE.

AND UH, YOU KNOW, I I'M SORRY THAT SHE EVEN HAD TO BE ABLE TO PUT A FENCE THAT I CAUSED ANY PROBLEMS TO HER OR ANYTHING FROM THE RV PARK, BUT I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE SURE THAT I COULD DO MY BEST TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING HAPPENS BEING AS THAT SHE'S SO CLOSE.

I CARE ABOUT HER.

GO AHEAD AND DO THE NEXT ONE.

THIS IS A SLIDE OF HER VIEW OF HER HOME, HOW CLOSE IT SITS TO THE RV PARK.

NEXT ONE.

THIS IS HOW THAT IT SHOWS UP AT THE NIGHT SKY IN CASE ANYBODY TALKS ABOUT THAT.

THE LIGHTS OF MINE ARE GONNA BE BRIGHT HER ARE AS WELL.

AND SO ARE SOME OTHERS.

NEXT ONE.

THIS IS, UH, MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.

THAT IS, UH, THE, ON THE B SIDE.

UH, THIS IS A HOUSE THAT'S FALLING DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE LINE.

GO AHEAD.

AN RV, I MEAN A MOBILE HOME THAT'S, UH, ABANDONED AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE LINE.

NEXT, THIS IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE LINE, BROKEN DOWN TRACTOR.

NEXT.

THIS IS SOME TRASH AND DEBRIS YOU'LL SEE DOWN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE CORNER.

STACKED UP AGAINST MY FENCE.

NEXT NEIGHBORS FROM THE SAME THING.

A BUNCH OF TRASH AND DEBRIS.

NEXT OLD AIR DUCTS THAT ARE UP AGAINST MY FENCE LINE.

NEXT OLD CARS UP AGAINST MY FENCE LINE.

OLD TRASH UP AGAINST MY FENCE LINE.

GO AHEAD.

SOME ENGINE THAT'S MAYBE THAT'S THE ENGINE OF THE CAR.

GO AHEAD.

BROKEN DOWN.

UH, OTHER PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE OVER THERE.

NEXT, I DON'T KNOW IF HE OWNS A CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS OR WHAT, BUT HE DOES HAVE QUITE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT.

MORE OF IT'S BROKEN DOWN AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE LINE.

NEXT, THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE LINE.

NEXT.

THAT'S STILL CONTINUING OF EQUIPMENT THAT I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE LINE.

NEXT, SAME THING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MY FENCE LINE.

NEXT.

THAT'S A BUNCH OF DEBRIS THAT'S JUST STACKED UP AGAINST MY FENCE OF OLD WOOD THAT HASN'T BEEN USED IN OTHER CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS THAT'S STACKED WITH IT.

NEXT, THIS IS THE PICTURES OF OUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE AROUND IN THE SURROUNDING AREA UP AND DOWN THE STREET TO LET YOU KNOW KIND OF WHAT THE, THE STREET LOOKS LIKE AS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

GO AHEAD.

THIS IS A BUSINESS THAT IS DOWN THE STREET ON THE SAME STREET UP.

GO AHEAD.

THIS IS ANOTHER BUSINESS THAT THERE'S QUITE A FEW MULTIPLE USE BUSINESSES UP AND DOWN OUR STREET, INCLUDING OUR NEIGHBOR ON SIDE B.

NEXT.

THIS IS WHAT WE DON'T WANT OUR STREET TO LOOK LIKE.

AND THERE IS A COUPLE OF PLACES THAT ARE NOT DESIRABLE, BUT NEXT SHOWING THAT THERE'S MORE USES OF MOBILE HOMES OUT THERE ON AN AVERAGE.

THAT'S ABOUT EVEN OF HOUSES TO MOBILE HOMES NEXT.

SAME THING, SHOWING THAT WHAT WE DON'T WANNA LOOK LIKE NEXT.

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ANOTHER MOBILE HOME NEXT.

THIS IS UP THE STREET FROM US, OUR RVS.

WE DO NOT LIKE TO HAVE ANYTHING LOOK LIKE THIS NEXT.

THAT'S THE SAME THING IN A MOBILE HOME AND SOME HOME THAT SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO BUILD THERE.

NEXT, A MOBILE HOME THAT'S RIGHT OUT NEXT TO THE STREET.

NEXT.

THIS IS WHAT OUR RV PARK LOOKS LIKE FROM STREET VIEW.

NEXT AT THE END OF OUR STREET.

THERE'S TWO OTHER BUSINESSES THAT THEY COULD BENEFIT FROM US, WHETHER THEY'RE ON BOARD OR NOT ON BOARD.

THEY STILL, THEY WOULD BE NOT SAYING THEIR OPINIONS, BUT THEY DID SAY THAT WE WOULD DEFINITELY WELCOME THE BUSINESS IF IT CAME.

SO THERE'S RAYMOND'S BURGERS AND THEN DOWN THE WAY THERE IS A FLEA MARKET AND THAT AREA RIGHT THERE IS PROBABLY WHAT MY NEIGHBORS WILL TALK ABOUT TOO.

THAT GETS WIDELY CONGESTED.

BUT THERE'S NO PARKING FOR THOSE GUYS AND UH, IN MY PLACE THERE'S GONNA BE PARKING ON OVER ABUNDANCE.

NEXT, THESE ARE MORE PLACES THAT THEY HAVE TO WORK.

LIKE THE TOYOTA PLANT THAT WAS WITHIN 10 MILES OF OUR, OF OUR ESTABLISHMENT RIGHT NOW.

AND ALSO THE HALLIBURTON'S JUST DOWN THE STREET WITHIN 10 MILES.

AND THEN THEY JUST NOW BUILT A DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND THAT'S WITHIN 10 MILES OF OUR PLACE TOO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO HELP WITH GETTING JOBS TO.

AND THEY HAVE TOLD US THAT THAT WOULD HELP OUT IN THE AREA.

SO I'M DOING MY BEST TO TRY TO HELP WITHIN THE AREA OF SAN ANTONIO FOR GROWTH.

NEXT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NOW THE CLOSING, I'D LIKE TO, TO SAY THAT IT WOULD BE OUR HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL WOULD SHOW THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO THAT ALL THAT WE TALK AND SEE ON THEIR WEBSITE AND THE VISION THAT THEIR MAYOR TALKS ABOUT FOR THE GROWTH OF SAN ANTONIO IS WHAT THE COUNCIL ALSO BELIEVES IN.

PLEASE REMEMBER ALL WE ARE ASKING IS TO GROW IN SAN ANTONIO.

WANT A CHANCE TO PROVE THAT WE CAN BE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF AN RV PARK FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COUNSEL.

THANK YOU.

NEXT, UH, WILL BE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR.

UM, YOU'LL BE GIVEN, DON'T FORGET TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES.

AND IF YOU WISH TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEBODY ELSE, UH, JUST PLEASE COME UP WHEN THAT PERSON IS CALLED.

UH, GEORGE GRAY.

I BELIEVE THAT'S THE APPLICANT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO NEXT THING THAT IS CHARLES BRIDGES BRIGGS.

CHARLES BRIGGS.

OKAY, SO YOU'RE WITH THE APPLICANT.

OKAY.

UH, JESSE BAO.

HELLO, JESSE.

OKAY, HENRY RODRIGUEZ.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS HENRY RODRIGUEZ AND I LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS IN 19 6 6 1 TRUMBO ROAD.

AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

I JUST WANTED TO READ A FEW POINTS CONCERNING THIS CASE.

ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2019, A NEIGHBOR BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION A NOTICE OF PLANNING.

SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

CHAIR, DID WE ANNOUNCE HOW LONG, UH, THE SPEAKERS HAVE? TWO MINUTES.

OKAY.

MY APOLOGIES.

YEAH.

SPEAKERS HAVE TWO MINUTES.

HE WAS, UH, THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER GAVE HIM HIS MINUTES.

OKAY.

WOW.

THAT'S OKAY.

I WAS THINKING OF THREE, BUT, OKAY.

ON SEPTEMBER 24TH, 2019, A NEIGHBOR BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION A NOTICE OF PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT DAY.

ONLY ABOUT TWO OR THREE OF MY NEIGHBORS WERE NOTIFIED OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION RULE WHEN TRUMBO ROAD.

MOST OF US LIVE ON 10 ACRES, MAKING THE 200 FOOT, UH, IMBALANCE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THE CITY BLOCK.

ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2019, OUR FIRST MEETING WITH THIS COMMISSION CONCERNING THE 120 RV PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT MEETING ENDED WITH A CONTINUANCE ON ON OCTOBER 1ST.

WE SUCCESSFULLY MET WITH THE ZONING COMMISSION AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO RECOMMEND THE PROPOSAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 9TH, A COUPLE OF HOURS BEFORE WE WERE TO APPEAR WITH THE COMMISSION, THE SECOND TIME WE WERE POSTPONED BY THE APPLICANT.

UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, WE HAD BEEN PLANNING, MEETINGS, STRATEGIZING, ORGANIZING.

IN PREPARATION FOR THIS MEETING.

NATURALLY OTHER COMMITMENTS AND APPOINTMENTS WERE RESCHEDULED.

THE APPLICANT HAS OUR PHONE NUMBERS AND LIVES RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

THEY HAD FILED FOR POSTPONEMENT TWO DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING AND HAD SACRIFICED INTERRUPTION TO OUR LIVES TO FIGHT FOR OUR HOMES TO BE CONSIDERED WORTHY OF THE RV PARK RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

EVERYTHING WAS JUST SUDDENLY POSTPONED.

I SHARE THIS ONLY TO GIVE ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE CONSIDERATION SHOWN TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BY THE APPLICANT.

ON NOVEMBER 12TH, A GROUP OF NEIGHBORS MET WITH THE APPLICANT TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED RV PARK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD,

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HOW THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND POPULATION WILL ULTIMATELY AFFECT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

TO INCLUDE THE FACT THAT OUR PROPERTY WILL MOST CERTAINLY AND IMMEDIATELY DECREASE IN VALUE.

WE MENTIONED THE ADDITIONAL NOISE NIGHT LIES, SEPTIC SMELLS INCREASE TRAFFIC AND DUST DUE TO TRAFFIC DRIVEWAY, INCREASED TRASH POLLUTION THAT WERE PERMANENTLY PART OF OUR EVERYDAY LIVES.

FOR AS MANY MORE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE STRESSED THE INCREASING CRIME OF ALL LEVELS.

WE FELT THE APPLICANT WAS ON MOVE BY OUR CONCERNS.

HE EXPRESSED A CALLING IS VERY DETERMINED TO MOVE FORWARD AND PLANS TO CREATE HIS OWN ENTIRELY LOW INCOME.

TRANSIENT, POPULATED, HUGE RV PARK COMMUNITY COMPLETE WITH FOOD BANK, LAUNDROMAT, STORAGE SHEDS, INVENTION, SHOP, PLAYGROUND, SPRINKLER PARK AND MORE.

THEY BASICALLY DETERMINED TO CREATE A NEW SUBSTANDARD COMMUNITY WITHIN OUR OWN ALREADY EXISTING COMMUNITY.

THE THE PLAN IS TO BASICALLY PROFIT FROM RELOCATING A LOW INCOME TRANSIENT POPULATION RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO OUR HOMES FOREVER.

WE PLEADED WITH THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT OUR HOMES ENTIRELY.

HE WOULD IMMEDIATELY MAKE UP MORE THAN HALF OUR EXISTING POPULATION ON HIS PROPERTY ALONE.

WE EXPRESSED THAT WE WOULD NO LONGER ENJOY OUR HOMES.

WE WORKED HARD TO BUILD AND ESTABLISH.

WE SHARED OUR NIGHTS WITH NO LONGER TO BE QUIET, FULL OF VISIBLE, BUT RATHER WITH SECURITY LIGHTS, PETS, DOMESTIC ISSUES, RV PARK COMMUNITY NEXT DOOR.

WE ASKED TO CONSIDER TAKING CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORS BEFORE HE HELPED STRANGERS.

HIS, HIS ANSWER WAS THAT, THAT THIS IS THE CALLING AND HIS DREAM THAT HE WILL CONTINUE FORWARD REGARDLESS OF HIS OPPOSITION.

HE WANTS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, BUT OUR CONCERNS HAVE NO IMPACT ON HOW HE FEELS ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH HIS CALLING, CREATING HIS OWN COMMUNITY.

IN THE END, THE APPLICANT STANDS TO PROFIT AS HE FULFILLS HIS CALLING TO CREATE HIS OWN MOTIVATED LOW INCOME SPACE OF 120 RV PARK COMMUNITY WITH OUR EXISTING RURAL COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SIR.

NEXT LINE TO SPEAK IS SHERRY GUDO.

OKAY.

UH, NEXT SIGN UP AFTER SHERRY WAS MARY LOUIS GUDO.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, MAR.

MY NAME'S MARINA BELLO.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES.

OKAY.

SO JUST FOR THE RECORD, I I AM NOT HERE TO TEAR DOWN MY NEIGHBORS.

I ORGANIZED THE MEETING MYSELF AT THE BIBLIO TECH.

HE DIDN'T ORGANIZE IT.

I DID.

UM, OUR SECURITY LIGHTS HAVE AN OFF SWITCH, SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE.

SO MY NAME IS MARINA BELLO AND I AM IN OPPOSITION.

I LIVE IN THE CITY LIMITS AND I'M AT 1 9 6 6 1 TRUMBO ROAD.

I HAVE 14 ACRES.

BEEN THERE 16 YEARS.

OUR INTENTION TO MOVE THERE WAS TO LIVE IN PEACE AND QUIET TO GIVE JESSE MY HUSBAND THE SPACE HE NEEDS FOR HIS AILMENTS TO ENJOY COUNTRY LIVING AND TO LIVE AN INHERITANCE THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING TO MY KIDS AND MY GRANDCHILDREN.

THERE'S A FIVE SPACE RV PARK RIGHT NOW, RIGHT, RIGHT NEXT DOOR IN THAT ARROW ON THE BOTTOM.

YOU CAN SEE HOW CLOSE IT IS.

IT'S 10 FEET FROM MY FENCE LINE TO THE DOOR.

HE SHOWED YOU A PICTURE.

IT'S OWNED BY THE APPLICANT BUILT BEFORE WE GOT ANNEXED IN 2017.

WE ARE AT, UH, I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'M A LOCAL COMMUNITY BUSINESS OWNER.

I'M A LIFELONG COMMUNITY MEMBER AND VOLUNTEER OF VARIOUS CHURCH GROUPS, KNIGHTS OF COLUMBUS LIFE, MEMBERS OF THE V F W.

WE ARE ZOO DOCENTS, FOSTER PARENTS MENTORS AND COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOLS.

AND WE ALSO DID TEAM CASA ADVOCATES FOR ABUSED AND NEGLECTED CHILDREN IN SAN ANTONIO.

JUST TO SHOW THAT WE ARE VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

MY HUSBAND JESSE IS A DISABLED VETERAN WITH P T SS D SYMPTOMS, WHICH INCLUDE ANXIETY, PANIC ATTACKS, INSOMNIA, AND SEVERE CLAUSTROPHOBIA.

HE REQUIRES PEACE AND QUIET THERAPEUTIC TYPE.

HE'S THERE AT HOME AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS FOR HIM.

HIS THERAPY.

HE STILL THROUGH ALL THIS AILMENTS, VOLUNTEERS FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS NOW, UP TO THIS DATE AT JULIAN SI, GALLO ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY NAMED AFTER MY GREAT-GRANDFATHER.

UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A LOW INCOME RV PARK, AS I MENTIONED IS FIVE SPACE.

WE LIVE.

A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT LIVING NEXT TO A LOW INCOME RV SPACE IS.

IT'S FIVE RIGHT NOW.

THESE ARE SOME PICTURES THAT I'VE TAKEN I THROUGH THE YEARS.

I NEVER THOUGHT TO TAKE A PICTURE, BUT I DID BECAUSE OF THIS SITUATION.

BUT WE GOT, UH, OUR DAILY EXPERIENCE.

MR. GRAY BUILT THE FIRST FIVE SUBMETERS NEAR THE EXISTING SEPTIC TANK THAT WAS THERE FOR AN, UH, MOBILE HOME.

NOW IT'S USED FOR THE FIVE RV SPACES.

UH, THERE'S A 10 FOOT BUFFER ZONE THERE, WHAT I MENTIONED FROM

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MY FENCE LINE TO THE FRONT DOOR ON THE BOTTOM WHERE THAT ARROW IS.

THAT'S THE FRONT DOOR TO THE VERY CLOSEST ONE TO MINE.

THAT ONE'S NOT THERE ANYMORE.

IT'S A NEW ONE.

'CAUSE THEY ROTATE, UH, SAME TENANT POPULATION.

HE'S LOOKING AT ADDING LIKE THESE HERE.

THESE, UH, THEY HAVE REFRIGERATORS AND WASHERS OUTSIDE.

THEY HANG THEIR CLOTHES ON MY FENCE LINE.

THEY HAVE HANDICAPPED TOILET.

ONE TIME THEY, THEIR RESTROOM BROKE AND THEY BUILT UP PLYWOOD WALLS AROUND A HANDICAPPED TOILET.

AND IT WAS USING THE TOILET OUTSIDE RIGHT THERE ABOUT WHERE THAT CORNER, THAT ARROW WAS POINTING.

UH, I GET INEBRIATED TENANTS COMING AND ASKING ME TO BORROW MONEY AND MY PHONE TENANTS COMING OVER LOOKING FOR THEIR PETS, ET CETERA.

A VULGAR LANGUAGE THAT GENERALLY I WOULDN'T BE EXPOSED TO AT MY HOME.

MARIJUANA SMELLING, UH, ALL OVER, NOT EVERY DAY OF COURSE.

NO, THIS IS NOT RIDICULOUS, BUT IT'S VERY NOISY.

AND THIS IS JUST FIVE RVS.

THERE'S FIGHTS, POLICE, TRASH, HEALTH CONCERNS, SEWER, ODORS, PET PROBLEMS, DOGS, CATS, HORSES, LEASHES, NO LEASHES.

THEY COME AND MESS WITH MY YARD.

THEY FIGHT WITH MY DOG.

I WAS SITTING ON MY PATIO HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSMISSION FLUID WAS DUMPED RIGHT OVER MY HOUSE.

RIGHT.

WE HAD A LITTLE SPLASH.

THESE PEOPLE ARE UNSTABLE, SHORT-TERM TENANTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

HERE'S A PICTURE BEFORE ZONING.

WE WENT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE AFTER ZONING.

HE CLEANED IT UP JUST TO SAY YES.

NOW IT'S PRETTY.

YES, TODAY IT'S NICE.

UH, QUOTES DURING THE ANNEXATION PROCESS.

LEMME START WITH RON NIERENBERG IN CASE I RUN OUT OF TIME.

HE SAID, BUT HE VOTED FOR THIS, WHICH IS THE ANNEXATION IN, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S AN EXAMPLE.

THE VOTED, HE VOTED FOR THIS BECAUSE IT'S AN EXAMPLE OF SAN ANTONIO PROPERLY USING ITS ANNEXATION AUTHORITY IN AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE THE AGRICULTURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA.

ALSO, THERE WAS SAID THAT THIS SIX SQUARE FOOT MILE AREA IS RELATIVELY SMALL UNDERDEVELOPED, LARGELY AGGRO, LARGELY AGRICULTURAL IN NATURE.

AND SPARSELY POPULATED WITH BARELY MORE THAN 70 RESIDENTS.

AND HE'S GONNA ADD IMMEDIATELY DOUBLE MORE THAN MORE THAN DOUBLE 200 CARS, FOR INSTANCE, 200 PEOPLE.

UH, TRUMBO ROAD IS A LOW VOLUME ROAD.

IT'S A TR THERE HAS BEEN A TRAFFIC IMPACT ASSESSMENT DONE.

BUT IT'S A BASIC AND PRELIMINARY ONE.

I SPOKE WITH MR. PEPE.

HE SAID THAT IT'S JUST, UH, THERE'LL BE A MORE EXTENSIVE ONE IF IT WERE TO PASS IN CITY COUNCIL.

SO THEN THEY TALKED ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE HAVING TO BE DONE AFTER THAT ON THE ROAD AND WALKWAY, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE, YOU KNOW, THE PEAK HOURS, TURNING LANES, ADDITIONAL LANES, SIGNS, MARKINGS, AND SO FORTH, WHICH WOULD BE YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION AND CHAOS TO OUR RURAL HOMES AND WOULD PAY FOR THAT.

I, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THERE IS A PROCESS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO WOULD PAY FOR THAT.

AND I WAS SHOWING YOU PICTURES HERE JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW NARROW THE ROAD IS.

UM, THE TENANTS THAT HAVE NO TRANSPORTATION, THEY ARE OKAY INCOME.

THERE MAY BE SOME WITHOUT TRANSPORTATION, BUT THEY'RE GONNA BE PRISONERS OF THEIR OWN HOMES.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS.

YOU CAN SEE RIGHT THERE ON THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS NO SIDEWALKS.

THAT'S THE WHERE THEY'D WALK ON THE GRASS.

AND THEY DO.

AND THEN WE'VE EVEN, EVEN HAD FIGHTS FROM SOME OF THE TENANTS WALKING DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, THOSE KIND OF DOMESTIC FIGHTS.

UM, SO THERE'S NO BUS ROUTES THERE, THERE'S NO JOBS NEARBY.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE ANY.

THERE ISN'T ANY JOBS NEARBY.

NOBODY'S GONNA WALK ANYWHERE FROM HERE.

UH, AND THERE'S NO STORES NEARBY.

THE LITTLE ONE IN THE CORNER IS NOT A STORE.

IT'S ACTUALLY A RESTAURANT.

30 SECONDS.

UM, LET ME READ TO YOU A, UM, YEAH, LET ME READ TO YOU THIS LITTLE THING HERE.

IT WAS A TRAILERS AND TROUBLE, AN EXAMINATION OF, UM, MOBILE HOME COMMUNITIES, CRIME IN MOBILE HOMES COMMUNITIES.

AFTER THE 1940S, A FUNDAMENTAL SHIFT IN THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE TRADITIONAL MOBILE HOME RESIDENT OCCURRED.

INSTEAD OF HOUSING MOSTLY TRANSITORY WORKERS AND RETIRED PEOPLE, MOBILE HOMES BECAME A MEANS FOR YOUNGER, LESS EDUCATED AND LESS AFFLUENT INDIVIDUALS IN MR. MCCARTY'S RESEARCH.

THAT'S SIX MINUTES, MA'AM.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SIGN NOTE TO SPEAK IS CHRIS MAR MORRIS.

THANK YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU GOT TWO MINUTES? YES.

UH, MY NAME IS CHRISTINA RODRIGUEZ MARRE.

I'M A LICENSED REAL ESTATE BROKER.

I LIVE ON TRUMBO ROAD, UH, 19 7 14 TRUMBO ROAD, WHICH IS ABOUT FIVE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED RV PARK.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANNA EMPHASIZE IS THAT WHEN WE GOT ANNEX TWO YEARS AGO, AND THERE SHOULD BE A SLIDE THAT SHOWS THAT FIVE SQUARE MILE AREA THAT ONLY HAS 77 RESIDENTS, IT WAS DONE TO TO, TO, UM, PROTECT IT, TO PROTECT THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL, THE MEDINA BASED RIVER, STUFF LIKE THAT.

AND THIS IS JUST IN CONTRADICTION TO WHAT THAT ANNEXATION WAS DONE FOR.

AN RV PARK

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IS NOT CONFORMING IN THE AREA.

THERE IS SOME MOBILE HOMES, THERE IS, UH, SOME PROBLEMS IN THE AREA, BUT THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS.

AND YES, THEY DO NEED TO CLEAN UP THEIR PLACE, BUT THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL, RIGHT? IF THEY WANNA KEEP A LITTLE BIT MESSY.

BUT WHAT HE'S PROPOSING IS ALL THESE PEOPLE IN THIS ONE AREA, AND IT'S NOT CONFORMING TO THE AREA, IT'S JUST GONNA DROP DOWN EVERYBODY'S PROPERTY VALUES AND, UM, CREATE MORE CA CHAOS.

LIKE SHE WAS POINTING OUT THE STREETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S THERE.

I MEAN, WE MOVED OUT THERE.

I'VE, I'VE LIVED THERE 60 YEARS IN THE AREA.

I'VE HAD MY LICENSE FOR 35 YEARS.

I SPECIALIZE IN THIS AREA AND IT'S NOT CONFORMING TO THE AREA AT ALL.

UM, AN RV BY DESIGN IS FOR RECREATIONAL PURPOSES, UH, THE PLUMBING AND STUFF.

30 SECONDS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LEAKS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF SEWER PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

AND, UH, JUST EVERYTHING ELSE THAT MARINA WAS TALKING ABOUT, ALL THE CHAOS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT SIGNED UP IS MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ.

OKAY.

I MEAN, IT'S, YOU'RE BOTH SIGNED UP AND YOU CAN GO FIRST OR A SECOND.

OKAY.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

ARE ARE YOU GOING TO SPEAK ALSO, SIR? ARE YOU DONATING YOUR TIME TO HER? OKAY, SIR, CAN YOU COME WITH THE MIC SO WE CAN HEAR YOUR NAME SO I CAN, I WANNA MAKE SURE I DESIGNATE THE RIGHT PERSON.

I'M, UH, GABRIEL KEER.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, GIVE MY TIME TO AMANDA KEER.

OKAY, MS. AMANDA, YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S AMANDA KEER.

I AM, UM, I GREW UP IN THE AREA IN A, IN, UM, CONSIDERATION.

AND WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ON THE SCREEN IS A ARTICLE THAT WAS WRITTEN, UH, BY THE SAN ANTONIO EXPRESS NEWS IN 2017.

I'M NOT GONNA READ IT TO YOU BECAUSE I, I'M ASSUMING YOU CAN READ FOR YOURSELF.

UM, BUT I'M GONNA JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT THE ARTICLE SAYS.

UM, SO WE, YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT, UM, ANNEXATION SO FAR FROM US, AND, UM, IT WAS VERY TRAUMATIZING FOR US TO BE ANNEXED INTO, INTO THE CITY, BUT THANK GOD WE GOT ANNEXED BECAUSE NOW YOU CAN HELP US, UH, YOU CAN HELP US GUYS BECAUSE THIS RV PARK IS GOING TO RUIN OUR WAY OF LIVING OUT THERE.

AND LET ME JUST LOOK AT, UM, THE SECOND SLIDE, IF WE CAN SEE THAT BOLDED PART RIGHT THERE.

UM, SO THIS PARTICULAR ANNEXATION IS UNUSABLE UNUSUAL FOR THE CITY.

UH, TYPICALLY THE CITY MOVES TO ANNEX AN AREA THAT IS ALREADY SATURATED WITH SUBURBAN HOMES AND SHOPPING AREAS.

THIS AREA IS LARGELY AGRICULTURAL, AS YOU'VE HEARD.

UM, SPARSELY POPULATED WITH BARELY 70 RESIDENTS THIS RV HOME WOULD, OR THE, THE PARK WOULD BE DOUBLING THE AMOUNT OF POPULATIONS.

OKAY.

AND, UH, THE CITY PLANNING DIRECTOR SAID THAT THIS CITY WANTED TO, UM, ANNEX THE AREA, AND I QUOTE, IN ORDER TO APPLY APPROPRIATE LAND USE AND CONTROL TO PROTECT ECONOMIC INVESTMENT IN THE AREA.

NOW WE DO HAVE TO, UH, TOYOTA, AS YOU SAW IN THE PICTURE.

AND WE HAVE TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY, UM, TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO WE WANT, THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAND WAS PROPERLY USED, UM, AND ZONED APPROPRIATELY.

SO I'M GONNA GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, CITY OFFICIALS ARGUED THAT THE ANNEXATION IS ONE WAY TO ENSURE THAT THE AREAS RURAL CHARACTER REMAINED INTACT.

CITIES HAVE ZONING POWERS THAT TEXAS COUNTIES DON'T.

THAT MEANS THAT A DEVELOPER COULD NO LONGER BUILD ANYTHING THAT IS UNINCORPORATED IN THE COUNTY, SUCH AS A MOBILE HOME OR A MOBILE RV PARK TO THIS CALIBER.

UM, SO I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GIVE LIKE A LITTLE PERSONAL NOTE ON THIS.

I AM, ME AND MY HUSBAND, ME AND MY HUSBAND ARE HERE TODAY.

WE WANTED TO, UM, REPRESENT OURSELF BECAUSE WE ARE BUILDING RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, CHRIS.

AND, UM,

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I GREW UP, I LOVE THE COUNTRY LIFE.

AND IF WE HAVE AN ARBY PARK RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE LIVING IN THE CITY AGAIN.

AND THERE'S AN INTENTION FOR US, PEOPLE THAT WANNA LIVE 30 MINUTES FROM THE CLOSEST H E B, WE'RE OUT THERE BECAUSE OF THE WAY OF LIFE.

THE, THE PEACE AND TRANQUILITY THAT, UM, THAT MARINA WAS TALKING ABOUT.

WE WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE THE CITY STARS.

WE DON'T WANNA HEAR THAT.

UM, PEOPLE FIGHTING.

WE WANNA JUST BE ABLE TO RELAX AND COME HOME AND, AND IN INHERITANCE, LIKE SHE SAID, TO PASS DOWN OUR HOMES TO FUTURE PEOPLE AND FOR PEOPLE TO WANT OUR, OUR KIDS TO WANT TO BE THERE.

UM, AND THIS RV HOME WOULD, IT'S, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S TRYING TO SAY, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT IN OUR LIFE.

AND I'M JUST, I KNOW THAT TO YOU, 30 SECONDS, IT IS JUST A YES OR NO, BUT TO US IT IS A MAJOR DECISION THAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON.

SO I, I'M JUST, UH, PLEADING TO Y'ALL TO VOTE NO TO THIS BECAUSE IT DOES AFFECT SO MANY PEOPLE.

IF YOU CAN JUST TELL WE'RE ALL HERE AND WE ALL DO NOT WANT THIS RV PARK.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL.

HELLO, UH, MICHAEL RODRIGUEZ.

19 2 0 8 TRUMBLE ROAD.

BACK IN 2017, THE RESIDENTS ON TROMBA ROAD WERE PART OF THE ANNEXATION RESTRICTIONS GOT PLACED ON US, AND WITH IT SOME ASPIRATIONS FOR OUR LANDS RESIDENTS WERE TOLD THAT THE ANNEXATION WOULD HELP PROTECT THE AREA FROM UNDESIRED DEVELOPMENTS.

WELL, WE THINK 130 UNIT RV PARK RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MOST POPULATED ROAD THAT GOT ANNEXED IS A UNDESIRED DEVELOPMENT AND ALSO A FORM OF SPOT ZONING.

I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE HEARD THE TERM OF SPOT ZONING, BUT FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T, SPOT ZONING HAS BEEN DEFINED AS THE PROCESS OF SINGLING OUT A SMALL PARCEL OF LAND FOR A USE CLASSIFICATION.

TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE OWNER OF THAT PROPERTY AND TO THE DETRIMENT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

UM, EVERY NEIGHBOR WE SPOKE TO WAS, WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT IN OPPOSITION.

AND THOSE PICTURES THAT YOU SAW, LIKE, THAT WAS LIKE ALL THE CRAPPY PICTURES OF, YOU KNOW, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE'S REALLY NICE HOUSES THERE.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A WRAP WRAPAROUND, TWO STORY WRAPAROUND, UH, HOUSED.

I MEAN, BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS, CUSTOM HOMES.

I MEAN THE, THE PICTURES YOU SAW THAT THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS, THIS ROAD IS LIKE.

AND, UH, I DON'T THINK THE CITY GETS ANY TAXES FROM, UM, RVS, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL COULD, UM, LOOK ON THIS PARTICULAR TYPE.

UH, FORTUNATELY THE ZONING COMMISSION, THEY ALL SIDED WITH US AND WE GOT THE, WE GOT, AND MAJORITY THEY SAID NO.

AND THE DISTRICT PERSON WASN'T EVEN THERE.

IT'S LIKE THE FIRST TIME I THINK Y'ALL GOT, UH, UH, UH, COUNSELED ON LIKE, HOW TO PROCEED.

'CAUSE THEY DIS THEY, THEY WERE LIKE, NO, THIS IS CRAZY.

WE'RE NOT GONNA DO THIS.

30 SECONDS.

UM, I LIKE TO SPEND THE, THE REST OF MY TIME INTRODUCING MY GRANDFATHER, ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ.

UM, HE LIVES ON THE ADJOINING LOT ON TRUMBO ROAD AND, UM, HE'S BEEN THERE FOR 60 YEARS.

HE'S A DISABLED VET FROM THE KOREAN WAR.

HE WAS PRESIDENT OF THE SOUTH SIDE SCHOOL BOARD, A MEMBER OF THE BUENO VISTA WATER BOARD THAT BROUGHT MUCH NEEDED DRINKABLE WATER TO THE AREA, A RANCH, A RANCHER, AND A FARMER.

UH, MY GRANDFATHER, ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ.

THANK YOU ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ.

NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YEAH, TWO MINUTES.

LORD JESUS.

I NEED TO HELP RIGHT NOW.

PA MY NAME IS ANTONIO R RODRIGUEZ.

MY HOME, I HAVE LIVED THERE FOR 65 YEARS AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT, NEXT TO THE LAND WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING.

RODRIGUEZ POND IS WAY IN THE BACK.

MY HOUSE IS IN THE FRONT AND, UH, IN THE BACK OF MY PLACE THERE, TWO, TWO OF MY SONS ARE LIVING THERE IN THE FRONT.

ONE ANOTHER SON IS LIVING.

AND, UH, I WANT YOU TO NOTICE ALL THAT SHADED AREA IN THE BACK.

THAT IS A LOW FLOOD PLAIN IS VERY CLOSE TO THE PARK AND IT'S, IT'S DOWNHILL.

IT'S WAY DOWNHILL.

SO THERE IS NO WAY YOU CAN KEEP CONTAMINATION FROM GOING INTO THERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE CITY PROMISE IS.

THAT'S WHAT THEY VOTED.

THEY, THEY ANNEXED IT FOR, UH, LIVING THERE FOR 65 YEARS.

I AM FULLY AWARE OF, UH, WHAT

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THE SEC UH, THE RAIN, THE WATER FLOW WHEN IT RAINS.

AND ALSO I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE SEPTIC TANK HAVING SEPTIC TANK ALL MY LIFE.

SEPTIC TANK WILL LEAK AND SMELL.

YOU CANNOT GET 30 SECONDS.

YOU CANNOT BEAT MOTHER NATURE.

YEAH.

UH, CHI WILL ALWAYS FLOW DOWNHILL AND IT WILL CONTAMINATE YOUR FLOODPLAIN.

AND, UH, WE ARE EXPECTING 300 OR MORE PEOPLE USING THIS SYSTEM.

ANOTHER THING I WANNA KNOW IS WHY IS THE CEDAR RECOMMENDING CHANGE TO THE CITY METRO PLAN? THE REASON WE WERE ANNEXED IS TO PROTECT SENSITIVE LAND IN THE HERITAGE SOUTH PARK PLAN.

THANK YOU SIR.

PROVIDING THE CITY WITH A ZONE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALONG MEDINA RIVER.

OKAY, SO WHY IS THE THANK YOU, SIR.

CITY CHANGING.

I'M GOT A HEARING PROBLEM.

OH, SIR.

UH, THE TIME'S UP, SIR.

YOUR, YOUR TIME IS UP.

YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE UP.

GIMME A MINUTE MORE.

UH OH.

SORRY SIR.

EVERYONE GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME.

COME ON NOW.

I'M COMING.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DONATE THEIR TIME, THEY MAY.

NO, IF, IF YOU DONATE YOUR TIME, LIKE YOU DONATE YOUR TIME, THAT'S HOW THAT GENERALLY WORKS.

OH, OKAY.

UM, ON MIKE RODRIGUEZ, NAME AND ADDRESS THE RECORDS.

YOU GOT TWO MINUTES.

HI, MY NAME IS MIKE RODRIGUEZ.

I LIVE ON 19,429 TRUMBO ROAD, WHICH TWO STORY HOUSE WE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

UM, THIS SPOT ZONING, UH, FOR THIS PROPERTY DOES NOT CONFORM WITH WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTS IN NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE, UH, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTS, UH, LARGER LOTS FARMLAND WITH MIXED VALUES FROM LOW TO MEDIUM VALUES.

UH, THIS COMMERCIAL PO UH, PROJECT WOULD, UH, DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND IT WOULD MORE THAN DOUBLE OUR CURRENT POPULATION.

ON PAGE 18 OF THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN, IT SAYS IT STATES, ANOTHER, UH, TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WAS DENSITY.

HIGHER DENSITY HOUSING WAS THE MOST DESIRABLE AND FEASIBLE WHERE CENTRAL WATER AND CENTRAL SEWERS ARE AVAILABLE.

IN THIS CASE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO PRIVATE, UH, SOURCE SYSTEM, UH, I GUESS THE SER THE, THE, UH, SOURCE, UH, THE CENTRAL SOURCE SYSTEM IS CALLED OUT FOR BECAUSE, UH, SEPTIC TANKS ARE A COMMON SOURCE OF SURFACE WATER AND ESPECIALLY GROUND WATER CONTAMINATION AND GOES UP AS THE DENSITY OF THE, OF THE FACILITIES IN THE AREA INCREASE.

THIS IS FROM THE US UH, ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AGENCY.

THE, THE SECTOR PLAN ALSO REQUIRES, UM, A BUFFER ZONE AROUND THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT WOULD BE IMPERVIOUS SERVICES, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACES THAT WOULD GREATLY INCREASE WITH THIS PROP, UH, PROJECT.

UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE SURFACES LIKE, UH, STREETS, ROOFS, PARKING LOTS ARE THE MAIN CONTRIBUTOR TO EXCESS STORM, UH, RUN 30 SECONDS AND COULD OTHERWISE BE, UH, THAT COULD OTHERWISE BE RETAINED BY NATURE.

ANYTHING THAT FALLS TRASH, WHATEVER WOULD GO, WOULD FLOW INTO THE PALO ALTO RIVER, THAT WHICH WOULD LEAD TO THE MEDINA RIVER.

AND, UH, THE PROTECTION OF THE, OF THE MEDINA RIVER BEING ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS, UH, AND MAIN, MAIN REASONS THAT THE CITY, THE CITY ANNEXED OUR AREA.

THAT'S TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

NEXT IS ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ NAME.

OKAY.

UM, I'M ANTONIO RODRIGUEZ.

I LIVE AT 19 4 31 TRUMBULL ROAD.

I DIDN'T BRING ANY SLIDES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

CAT TOLD THE ACTUAL DOCTOR'S APPOINTMENT TO COME OUT HERE.

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT WE WERE, THAT I HAD TO CANCEL TO COME OUT HERE.

UM, I WAS BORN TO 1970.

MY DAD ALREADY OWNED THE PROPERTY AT 19 433 TRUMBO ROAD.

SO BASICALLY I WAS BORN OUT THERE.

I, MY ENTIRE LIFE ACTUALLY MOVED DOWN TO ZAMORA AND BET PALO ALTO FOR ABOUT A COUPLE OF YEARS.

COULDN'T HANDLE THE CITY LIFE.

SO WENT DOWN BACK AND TOLD MY DAD, I, HEY, I'M GONNA BE LOOKING FOR PROPERTY TO BUILD, BUILD PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, BUILD ME A HOUSE.

HE WAS LIKE, HEY, RIGHT HERE, BACK HERE WHERE YOU ALWAYS USED TO PLAY AROUND.

YOU USED TO HUNT.

GO ENJOY IT.

SO I BUILT MY HOUSE BACK THERE WITH THE,

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JUST BECAUSE I LIKE BEING OUT, YOU KNOW, IN THE, UH, IT'S PERSONAL BASICALLY.

I DON'T WANNA BE LOOKING AT 150 ACRES OUT THERE, JUST, WE LIVE ON A COUNTY ROAD.

I OWN THE 11 ACRES I BOUGHT IN FRONT OF HIM.

I ACTUALLY BOUGHT ANOTHER 150 ACRES DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE I HAD CATTLE.

I PLANT HAY.

I MEAN, I FOLLOWED MY DAD'S FOOTSTEPS AS FAR AS CATTLE AND RANCHING AND SO FORTH.

I DON'T NEED 150 PEOPLE OR 300 PEOPLE LIVING RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY DOOR.

MY HOUSE IS ACTUALLY SIX TO 700 FEET, UH, FROM THE ROAD, JUST SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO TRAFFIC AND SO FORTH.

I BUILT A LONGER DRIVEWAY.

I RAN MY WATER ALL THE WAY OUT THERE JUST SO I DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL, DEAL WITH ALL THIS STUFF.

AND NOW HE COMES OVER HERE AND SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT? LIKE IT OR NOT, I WANT TO BUILD THIS 150 DEALS.

HE DIDN'T COME OUT AND WHEN HE LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, SPOKE TO HIS NEIGHBORS AND SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO DO AN RV PARK.

WHAT DO YOU THINK? NOBODY EVER DID THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WHEN WE RECEIVED, THAT'S TWO MINUTES, SIR.

WE RECEIVED, UM, YOUR, UM, THANK YOU, SIR.

WE'RE DONE.

YEP.

TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THAT IS IT FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO SHOWED UP TO SPEAK TODAY.

UH, THE APPLICANT DOES GET A CHANCE FOR REBUTTAL, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE.

FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY.

ONE, IF IT DOES HAPPEN THAT IT IS SEPTIC SYSTEM, THAT IS, THAT'S WHAT I HAD TO DO.

UH, AGAIN, I'M FULL AWARE OF HOW THOSE SYSTEMS WORK AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT IF IT IS ANYTHING THAT'S CAUSED TO AN IMPACT TO THAT, THEN THAT'S NOT THE WAY THAT I'M GONNA GO.

THAT IT'S GONNA CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR THE FUTURE OF THE PROPERTY.

I'M NOT THERE TO TAKE AND HURT ALL THESE PEOPLE AND THE THINGS THAT THEY ARE SAYING ABOUT THAT, I DON'T CARE AND I'M JUST THERE FOR THE PROFIT AND GROWTH.

I'M NOT, THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR A LONG WHILE AND BEFORE I EVEN CAME TO SAN ANTONIO, WHEN I FIRST CAME THERE, I DID TALK ABOUT THAT I WAS GOING TO DO THIS AND IT EXPLAINED TO THEM THAT I WAS GOING TO DO THIS AND I'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT AND WORKING ON IT FOR MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS.

BOTTOM LINE OF THE STORY IS, IF IT'S NOT APPROVED, WELL THEN I CAN'T GO HERE AND I'LL GO SOME OTHER PLACE AND THEY CAN GO WHERE THEY'RE AT.

PART OF WHAT THE IS IN THAT AREA IS WHAT IS ENTICING TO THE PEOPLE THAT I'M WANTING TO TRY TO RENT TO.

AND YES, IT'S BEEN KIND OF A, A TRIAL AND ERROR AS US GOING BECAUSE I'M NOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR PROFESSIONAL OF RUNNING THESE.

I AM LEARNING AS I'M GOING AND HAVE FOUND THAT PEOPLE CAN BE RULE, BAD MEAN, AND, UH, PEOPLE THAT I DON'T EXPECT ARE GOING TO DO SOMETHING, CAN DO SOMETHING.

BUT I CAN SAY THIS, THAT I'M NOT HAVING THE INTENTIONS ON WHERE I'M AT AND BOLD AND UNDERSTANDING TO SAY THAT I WILL NOT ALLOW THAT TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN.

IF ANY OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE IN THE PART, IF IT DID GET TO APPROVAL AND THEY SAID THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON WRONG, I WOULD MAKE MY BEST TO DO THE DIFFERENCE TO MAKE THEM SO THEY WOULD NOT GO WRONG.

BUT THE PEOPLE THAT DO COME OUT THERE, THEY LOVE THE SAME THING THE NEIGHBORS DO.

THEY LOVE THE PEACE AND QUIET.

I DO TOO.

THEY LIKE THE FACT THAT THERE'S TAME AND CALM.

THEY LIKE WATCHING THE, THE FACT OF THE CATTLE, UH, BEING AROUND.

I DO TOO.

I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO.

I'M JUST TRYING TO TAKE AND HELP GROW WHERE I'M AT.

I WORK IN THE OIL FIELD.

I COME FROM AN AREA WHERE THERE'S ALL KINDS OF MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF INDUSTRY AND I'M DEFINITELY NOT WANTING THAT.

I'M JUST TRYING TO TAKE AND HELP THE GROWTH OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED SPOTS IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND FOR ME, I BELIEVE THAT WHERE I'M AT AND WHERE I BOUGHT COULD BE THAT OPPORTUNITY ENDING ON UPON YOU GUYS' DECISIONS TODAY.

THE LAST THING THAT I WANNA SAY IS THAT IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT CONTAMINATES OUR SOILS AND, AND THAT, WELL, I, I I, I'M NOT THE GUY TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT ANSWERS, BUT I WILL HIRE THE GUYS THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE EXACT ANSWERS AS I GO.

AND I WILL SAY THAT FOR ME, ALL THE CATTLE THAT'S GOING AROUND THERE, THEY ARE CONTAMINATING SOILS BUT ALSO ENRICHING OUR SOILS.

SO, AND THEN CLAT OF GROWTH.

I MEAN, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN SAN ANTONIO, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYWHERE THAT HAS GROWN AS FAST OR AS MUCH WITHIN PLANTATION AS HERE.

AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS HELP ME TO STAY THAT I LOVE HERE.

I WANNA STAY HERE AND I WANNA BE A PART OF THE COMMUNITY HERE.

AND I DO WANT THE CHANCE TO PROVE

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THAT HEY, I CAN MAINTAIN AND TRY TO HOPE TO, THAT I WILL TAKE AND MAINTAIN TO KEEP MY NEIGHBORS HAPPIER AROUND ME, EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY DO NOT WANT IT.

I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO BENEFIT MY FUTURE.

AND THAT'S ALL.

AND I'M ASKING FOR THE CHANCE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

UH, THE PUBLIC PORTION IS NOW CLOSED AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.

WE'LL START ON THE LEFT WITH, I BELIEVE WE HAVE COMMISSIONER .

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE DOING? THE QUESTION WAS WHY IS STAFF RECOMMENDING APPROVAL? YEAH, SO IN IN PART IT'S PART OF THE BIG PICTURE GOALS OF THE HERITAGE SOUTH SET THEIR PLAN, THAT'S A RELATIVELY NEWER PLAN.

UM, IT EMPHASIZES GREEN INNOVATION, LOWER IMPACT INDUSTRIAL, AND, UH, ECOTOURISM AS WELL.

UM, I, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO 1604 AND YOU'RE NEARBY PLEASANT ROAD IN 2 81.

UM, IF YOU'RE GOING TO LOCATE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS PART OF WHAT THE AGRIBUSINESS EMPHASIZES, UM, YOU WOULD WANT A LARGER SITE, UH, TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE IMPACT.

IT, UH, ALLOWS SPACE ON SITE FOR BUFFERING AND ALL OF THAT SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS THAT ARE GO WITH THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL.

SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S PARTIALLY, UH, CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITE, THE LOCATION OF THE SITE, AND THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE SECTOR PLAN.

UM, SO I, THE, THE PROPERTY THAT'S THERE NOW YOU SAID, SO THIS IS COUNTRY TIER IS THE CURRENT, UH, APPLICATION, RIGHT? SO, UM, THE PROPERTY THAT'S THERE NOW WAS GRANDFATHERED IN, IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED? THE RV PARK THAT'S THERE NOW? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE, IF THE RV PARK WAS IN EXISTENCE PRIOR TO ANNEXATION, SO IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND IN ORDER FOR HIM TO EXPAND IT, THEN IT REQUIRES THIS PLAN AMENDMENT BASICALLY MM-HMM.

.

CORRECT.

NOW HE HAS TO FOLLOW THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE RULES AS WELL AS THE LAND USE AND ZONING RULES.

OKAY.

AND, UM, CAN YOU TELL ME, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT SPECIFIC TO, UM, THE PLANNING, BUT, AND YOU, UH, PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THESE KINDS OF THIS INFORMATION, BUT THE REGULATIONS ON SEPTIC AND ALL OF THAT, AND WE HAVE A WHOLE CHAPTER ON MOBILE HOMES.

I WASN'T ABLE TO READ ALL THAT THAT FAST AND WE TALKED ABOUT COMMON PLACES.

SO CAN, I MEAN, DO YOU, CAN YOU TALK TO ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT? MM-HMM.

SURE.

CHAPTER 18 AND THE CITY CODE, UH, REGULATES MOBILE LIVING PARKS.

MM-HMM.

, UM, RV PARKS, TRAILER PARKS, ALL OF THOSE WOULD BE CONSIDERED MOBILE LIVING PARKS.

AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH CODE, HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THEIR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODES.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE APPROPRIATE SEPTIC SEWER, UH, WATER HOOKUPS.

UM, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO PULL THEIR PERMITS ONCE THEY, ONCE THE PAD SITES GO IN.

UH, BUT THEY ARE CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS, UH, CONSIDERED A FORM OF HOUSING AND, BUT THEY ARE REGULATED THROUGH OUR CITY CODES.

SO, AND WHEN THEY SAY RV, SO IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE THAT THE, UM, FACILITIES ARE INSIDE, THEY MIGHT BE OUT.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T GET, UH, BECAUSE I, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE WAS COMMONPLACE FOR RV PARKS, SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY MAYBE PORTA-POTTIES.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

MM-HMM.

, SO THERE, YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH LIKE YOUR STATE PARKS THAT HAVE RV PAD SITES THAT ARE FOR CAMPING MORE OR LESS.

UM, AND THEN THEY HAVE COMMON AREAS FOR BATHROOM SHOWERS, UM, AS WELL AS AMENITIES.

THOSE ARE YOUR TYPICAL TRANSITORY TYPE, UH, RV PARKS.

UM, BUT THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE RV PARKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY USED AS A FORM OF HOUSING.

UM, AND SO EACH ONE, EACH UNIT IS ITS OWN DWELLING UNIT.

EACH UNIT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN BATHROOM SHOWER, BUT THERE THAT THE RV PARK MAY PROVIDE SOME COMMUNITY FACILITIES AS WELL FOR THOSE THAT, UH, TRAILERS THAT DON'T HAVE A FULL SHOWER.

SO, BUT AGAIN, THEY'LL HAVE TO PULL ALL OF THEIR PERMITS AND COMPLY WITH CODES.

OKAY.

AND, UM, AND IS THERE A WAY FOR THE CITY TO, UM, MANAGE AND ENFORCE THAT, JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE ONE OWNER TODAY MANAGING AN RV PARK, UM, THE NEXT MAY IT MAY TRANSFER OWNERSHIP.

SO HOW CAN YOU MANAGE, I GUESS IT, HOW, HOW DO YOU MANAGE THAT? HOW, SO OUR DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY DOES THAT, SO I'M GONNA HAVE PHIL LANEY, HE IS THE MANAGER OVER THAT, UM, OVER

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THOSE PROCEDURES, AND SO HE CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION ON THAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

PHIL LANEY, SENIOR SPECIAL PROJECT MANAGER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, SO EVERY YEAR WE HAVE AN ANNUAL, SO SINCE 2018, WE HAVE A REGISTRAR MOBILE LIVING PARK PROGRAM.

UM, EACH YEAR THE, UM, ALL THE MOBILE HOME PARK COMMUNITIES IN SAN ANTONIO HAVE TO REGISTER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

UM, THERE'S AN ANNUAL LICENSE FEE THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY, BUT THERE'S ALSO REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.

UM, INCLUDING, UM, AS MENTIONED WITH, UH, KAT WAS MENTIONING IF THEY HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM, THEY HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH BEXAR COUNTY TO ENSURE THAT THAT'S BEEN TESTED.

AND AND WE DON'T PERSONALLY INSPECT THOSE, BUT WE MAKE SURE THAT BEAR, THEY'RE KIND OF IN COMPLIANCE WITH BEXAR COUNTY, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS.

UM, ALSO WE HAVE A, INTERNALLY HAVE A DEDICATED TEAM OF CODE OFFICERS THAT PROVIDE PROACTIVE INSPECTIONS OF THESE PARKS.

WE HAVE, UM, A TEAM THAT GOES OUT AND INSPECTS.

WE HAVE ABOUT ROUGHLY A HUNDRED PARKS.

UM, THE LOCATION IN QUESTION, UM, THE FIVE UNIT PARK IS CURRENTLY REGISTERED WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

SO WE GO OUT PERIODICALLY ABOUT EVERY QUARTER AND PROVIDE INSPECTIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE PARKS ARE ABIDING BY OUR PROGRAM AND, UH, GOALS OF THE PROGRAM, BUT ALSO THE SAN ANTONIO PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE.

THANK YOU.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS QUESTION IS FOR YOU, BUT, UM, HOW DO, SO THERE IS WHAT THE PALO LANCO CREEK, HOW DO YOU, UM, PROTECT WHETHER IT'S HOMES OR, UM, I GUESS THE REGULATIONS, WHATEVER REGULATIONS THEY HAVE TO ABIDE BY WOULD PROTECT THE WATER SOURCES THAT ARE NEARBY, BASICALLY? RIGHT.

SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE, UM, WE WORK WITH BEXAR COUNTY TO ENFORCE, UM, ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES SEPTIC TANKS.

SEPTIC TANKS IS OBVIOUSLY A, A MAJOR CONCERN.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ON CITY SEWER, THERE'S A LITTLE, LITTLE MORE CONTROL AND UM, UM, OVERSIGHT THAT'S PROVIDED.

IF THEY'RE IN SEPTIC TANKS, THEN AGAIN, WE MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, WE WORK WITH BEXAR COUNTY VERY CLOSELY AND WE ENSURE THAT THE OWNERS WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH BEXAR COUNTY TO GET THE PROPER PERMITS AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE IN GOOD PROPER WORKING ORDER.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UM, THE EXPANSION OF THE MOBILE LIVING PARK PROGRAM HAS BEEN, UM, DUE TO PROPERTIES THAT WERE, HAD STRUGGLES WITH SEPTIC, THEY'RE OVERLOADING THEM.

AND SO, UM, WHEN THEY GO THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS, PART OF THAT WILL BE ENSURING THAT THEY'RE ABIDING BY THOSE REGULATIONS SO THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, OVERLOADING THE SYSTEMS, UM, DURING CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY.

AND JUST, UH, ONE MORE THING.

SO WHAT ABOUT, UM, THE USUAL THINGS LIKE, UH, BUFFERING AND LANDSCAPING BETWEEN HOMES AND WHATNOT? SO IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, UM, SO THIS IS NOT, LOOK, I GUESS I'M GOING TO ZONING? IS THAT THE WRONG QUESTION? OKAY, , SORRY.

UM, I CAN HELP ADDRESS THAT.

SO, UH, BUFFERING IS ALWAYS GONNA BE DEPENDENT ON THE ZONING DISTRICT RELATED TO THE ZONING DISTRICT.

AND SO THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT.

UM, AND BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S AN L DISTRICT ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL TYPE DISTRICT, RP IS ACTUALLY A MIXTURE OF BOTH RESIDENTIAL AS WELL AS AG USES.

SO, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THOSE CODES AND REGULATIONS IN ORDER TO PULL THOSE PERMITS.

THANK YOU.

I GUESS THE OTHER QUESTION I MIGHT HAVE FOR STAFF, IS THERE AN ALTERNATE LAND USE CATEGORY THAT WOULD PROVIDE FOR LOWER DENSITY OF RVS AND HERITAGE SOUTH? WELL, PART OF WHAT ENABLES THE RV PARK IS THE ZONING OF L IN THIS CASE.

AND SO MAJORITY OF THEIR ZONING REQUESTS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IS L AND SO THE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY THE LOWEST DENSITY CATEGORY THAT WOULD ALLOW L IS THAT AGRIBUSINESS TIER.

SO JUST ALSO TO TRY, SO THERE'S THREE ZONING DISTRICTS BEING REQUESTED.

UM, AND SO ALL THREE FIT INTO THE AGRIBUSINESS, UH, TIER LAND USE CATEGORY AS OPPOSED TO CREATING A HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT LAND USE CATEGORIES FOR EACH DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICT.

THE DENSITY ACTUALLY IS, UM, ENDS UP BEING, I THINK WE CALCULATED ABOUT NINE UNITS AN ACRE, UH, BECAUSE OF HOW MANY ACRES THAT IT'S ON, WHICH IS ACTUALLY LESS THAN A TYPICAL, UH, R SIX SUBDIVISION.

SO IT'S ACTUALLY NOT AS, AS DENSE AS IT WOULD SEEM.

THANKS.

NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

I SO YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT.

I, I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT I'M THINKING.

LIKE IF THESE WERE APARTMENTS VERSUS RVS FOR THIS SAME NUMBER, WOULD THEY HAVE TO ASK FOR AGRIBUSINESS AS WELL, OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT LAND USE? IF IT WAS ACTUAL APARTMENT THAT'SS, A DIFFERENT LAND USE.

OKAY.

IT'S BECAUSE AN RV PARK IS ALLOWED IN AN L DISTRICT.

OKAY.

BUT MULTIFAMILY ISS NOT ALLOWED IN AN L DISTRICT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT'S INTERESTING TO ME AND OF

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CONCERN BECAUSE IT BASICALLY DOES BECOME A MULTIFAMILY USE, UM, IN THAT KIND OF DISTRICT, EVEN THOUGH TECHNICALLY IT'S TRANSIENT AND COULD CHANGE AT ANY TIME.

THE OTHER THING THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE AGRIBUSINESS TIER IS THE RP, WHICH ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND RP ACTUALLY IS A, A DENSITY OF, UH, ONE PER 10 ACRES.

SO IT ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THAT LAND USE CATEGORY AS WELL.

IT ALLOWS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

IS THIS IS 30 ACRES AND YOU SAID IT'S ONE PER 10 ACRES.

SO THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE THREE HOUSES ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT NOT THE 90 TO 70 OR 90 THAT HE'S INTENDING TO HAVE WITH THE RV V.

SO IF THE, IF THE BLAND USE WAS CHANGED TO AGRIBUSINESS TIER AND THE, AND THE PROPERTY WAS REZONED, A PORTION OF IT WAS REZONED TO L IT COULD ALLOW THE RV.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THE AGRIBUSINESS TIER IS NOT JUST ABOUT INDUSTRIAL USES, IT ALLOWS A MIX OF BOTH INDUSTRIAL AS WELL AS RESIDENTIAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR THAT EXPLANATION.

UM, MY QUESTION ACTUALLY, THE OTHER QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, WERE YOU LIVING ON THE PROPERTY WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED AND WAS THAT YOU WERE OKAY.

UM, SO WAS THAT, WERE YOU DISCUSSING AT THE TIME WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS THAT WHEN THIS ANNEXATION WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR TURNING IT INTO AN RV PARK? YOU SAID YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR A LONG TIME.

CAN YOU, SIR, YOU NEED TO COME UP TO THE MIC? A BETTER ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION.

THERE WAS NO PRE-THOUGHT OR PRE-PLANNING OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE ANNEXATION.

WHEN THE ANNEXATION CAME ALONG, I HAD A DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT I HAD HEARD, 'CAUSE WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE LEASING OUR PROPERTY TO FOR THEIR HORSES, AND THEY SAID THEY'D WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE THE ANNEXATION OF THAT PROPERTY 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS GONNA BENEFIT THEM.

THE THINGS THAT I KNOW ABOUT ANNEXATION IS THAT WHETHER IT HAPPENS OR WHETHER IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS WERE THAT I'M STILL TRYING TO HEAD WHERE I'M TRYING TO HEAD AND I STATED THAT AT, AT THE BEGINNING BEFORE ANY OF THIS AND BEFORE THE ANNEXATION EVER CAME INTO PLAY, ANY WHICH WAY? I DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE ANN ANNEXATION COMING.

AND THEN WHEN I DID FIND OUT ABOUT THE ANNEXATION COMING, I DIDN'T GET NEAR THE NOTICES OR ANYTHING THAT I WOULD'VE THOUGHT WOULD'VE HAPPENED OUT OF IT.

BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS TRYING TO REMOTELY DO WAS TO TRY TO DO MY BEST TO TRY TO HELP OTHERS TO TAKE IT, BE ABLE TO CHANGE THEIR LIFESTYLE.

THAT'S BECAUSE I CARE AND I CARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORS AS WELL, BUT I CAN'T DO IT IF I DON'T, I'M NOT ABLE TO GO FORWARD.

AND THAT'S REALLY AS SIMPLE AS IT GETS WITH ME.

THERE'S NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY CON MOTIONS OF ANYTHING.

IT'S BECAUSE I WANNA TRY TO HELP PEOPLE.

THAT'S ALL.

OKAY.

SO, SO WHEN THE ANNEXATION HAPPENED, YOU OWNED THE PROPERTY AND YOU WERE PLANNING ON DOING THE RV PARK YES.

KNOWING THAT YOU WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE CHANGES IN LAND USE? YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

WELL, LAST QUESTION FOR YOU.

YOU SAID YOU LIVE ON THE SITE? I DO.

SO WOULD YOU HAVE A STAFF TO MANAGE 24 7 IF IT THIS PROPERTY, IF IT TO THAT IT GETS APPROVED? YES, I WOULD.

OKAY.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, AGAIN, TO THE THINGS THAT I HAVE SEEN FROM MY NEIGHBORS TALKING HAS BROUGHT MY LIGHT TO, HEY, THE BRIGHT IDEA OF THINGS TO HELP SOLVE THAT.

YOU CAN'T PREDICT WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO, BUT YOU CAN DO JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE GETS.

AND I WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE IN AND I'VE LOOKED AND BEEN ABLE TO FIND OUT THAT YES, I CAN RECORD ALL OF THAT.

AND SO THEN I WILL BE ABLE TO DO ON MY PROPERTY AND SAY, YOU ARE NOT COMPLYING TO THE RULES.

I CANNOT HAVE YOU STAY HERE.

AND THAT WOULD BE WHAT IT WOULD BE.

OKAY.

SO ONE MORE QUESTION.

YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING, UM, LOW INCOME FOLKS.

UM, NOT JUST THAT, BUT IT, IT'S SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT A LOT NEED HELP.

LET ME GET TO MY QUESTION.

SO YOU'RE SPECIFICALLY TARGETING FOLKS THAT ARE, ARE IN DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES, UM, WHO ARE NOT LIKELY TO HAVE CARS.

WHAT'S THE NEAREST VIA STOP TO THIS LOCATION? WELL, THE WHOLE AREA FOR THE NEAREST VIA STOP IS PROBABLY RIGHT ABOUT EIGHT MILES OR SO AWAY.

YES.

IT'S A WAYS AWAY.

WE ARE IN COUNTRY NOT ACCESSIBLE WITHOUT A CAR, THAT CAR, BUT ALSO TO THAT EXTENT, IT'S OUR CHOICE TO SAY, HEY, IF YOU'RE OUT HERE, YOU ARE WILL NEEDING A VEHICLE THAT IS PART OF OUR PROJECT, THEY WILL NEED THEIR VEHICLE.

THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO TOW THEIR VEHICLE IN AND OUT.

THAT VEHICLE'S NOT THEIR PERMANENT.

SO.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU.

UM, I, I JUST WANNA ALSO THANK THE RESIDENTS FOR TAKING THE TIME.

I KNOW, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SPEAK, SO, UM, UNFORTUNATELY I NOTICED THE TIME WAS CUT SHORT FOR SOME OF YOU.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO COME OUT HERE.

I KNOW SOME OF YOU WERE OUT HERE BEFORE.

UM, AND I JUST, I WANNA ADD THAT I, I LIVE IN AN URBAN AREA AND I LOVE AN URBAN AREA, BUT I REALIZE THAT'S NOT WHAT EVERYBODY LIKES.

AND, UM, AND YOU DO LIVE IN AN AGRICULTURAL AREA, AN AREA OF LARGE PROPERTIES WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT IT WOULD STAY, UM, THAT SORT OF ENVIRONMENT.

AND, UM, WHILE

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I ALSO SUPPORT LOW INCOME HOUSING AND I THINK MOBILE HOME PARKS, UM, HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO PROVIDE, UM, HOUSING TO A LOT OF FOLKS, I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT THERE'S NOT ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ANYWHERE NEAR, UM, THIS FACILITY.

AND SO IT REALLY ISN'T GONNA SERVE, UM, THAT LOW INCOME POPULATION, UM, THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SERVING.

I WOULD RECOMMEND A, YOU KNOW, THAT TARGETED POPULATION TO BE ADDRESSED AND CLOSER TO, UM, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION ACCESS.

SO I, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE PROJECT.

THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UM, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED IN THAT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE HAD TO REVIEW FOR THIS ITEM SINCE LAST FRIDAY HAS, UH, SAID, UM, THAT THE PLANNED USE FOR THE PROPERTY WAS TO MANUFACTURE SMALL HOMES AND SOLAR PANELS AND WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME.

NOW WE GET HERE AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A MA AN RV PARK.

SO WHAT WE REVIEWED IN OUR DOCUMENTS IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT HAPPENED? MR. GRAY, CAN YOU COME UP AND, AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION? IT WASN'T PART OF YOUR SOLAR PANELS.

IS THAT ALSO MANUFACTURING THE TINY HOME PRODUCTS? YES, MA'AM.

PART OF THIS IS THAT WE WANTED TO NOT ONLY CATER TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE DOING OF TRYING TO GET THEM INTO THEIR HOMES TO HELP THEM, BUT WE WERE ALSO GOING TO TAKE AND BE DOING ANOTHER BUSINESSES ALONGSIDE OF THAT BECAUSE WE HAD ENOUGH AREA OF PROPERTY.

AND BECAUSE I DO BUILD, UH, EVEN THOUGH THAT I'M IN AN OIL FIELD, I'VE BEEN A BUILDER FOR MANY YEARS, AND YES, BUILDING TINY HOMES IS WHAT I WANTED TO TRY TO DO.

AND THAT'S WHAT I ASKED THEM TO TRY TO DO AS WELL.

AND THAT I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO, THE ONLY THING THAT COULD ALLOW TO BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THESE THINGS ALTOGETHER WAS WHERE WE WERE HEADED AT.

AND I'VE ASKED, I'VE ASKED THE CITY, I'VE ASKED MY DEVELOPER, I'VE ASKED MY SEPTIC ENGINEER OF WHAT ARE THE BEST WAYS TO GO ABOUT TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING THAT I'M TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

I MIGHT AS WELL ASK FOR IT ALL WHEN I'M ASKING BECAUSE IT'S THE PROPERTY THAT I OWN.

SO THE ONE MOBILE HOME THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT IS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE MY, UH, WIFE'S FATHER AND MOTHER THAT THEY ARE NOW CURRENTLY STAYING WITH US AND WE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE THEM A PLACE TO BE ABLE TO STAY.

CORRECT.

SO THERE WERE THREE USES OF THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU WERE INTENDING.

ONE IS THE RV PARK, WHICH IS THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S SHOWN ON THAT SITE PLAN.

YES.

AND THEN THE SMALL SQUARE, I BELIEVE IN THE MIDDLE IS YOUR, THAT, UH, THE ONE FOR THE MANUFACTURED HOME ON THE PROPERTY OFF SQUARE RIGHT THERE OFF THE SIDE, YES.

OKAY.

AND THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST PORTION, THAT IS THE PORTION THAT IS THE SOLAR PANELS, CORRECT.

THAT IS THE, AND THE MANUFACTURER, THE, THE LITTLE HOME PRODUCTS RIGHT THERE IN THE, IF YOU GO WHERE THE LITTLE CIRCULAR DRIVE STARTS TO GO AROUND AT AND YOU KIND OF COME UP, THERE'S A GR UH, YES, THANK YOU.

UH, YOU TURN THAT ON, BUT, OH, RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, RIGHT CURRENTLY IS THE, LIKE WE PUT UP A LITTLE SEMI-TRUCK LOOKING THERE TO KIND OF GIVE AN NICE IDEA THAT THERE IS RIGHT NOW ALREADY A, A STRUCTURE.

WE ARE GONNA TAKE AND TAKE DOWN THE STRUCTURE AND PUT UP A SHOP HERE.

THIS SHOP WOULD BE THE SHOP THAT I WOULD DO THE MANUFACTURED HOMES OUT OF, UH, MANUFACTURED, UH, TINY HOMES.

AND THE SAME THOUGHT ABOUT IT WAS, IS THAT I DO LIKE TO DO SOLAR PANELS AND I LIKE TO DO, TRY TO, UH, BUILD SYSTEMS THAT YOU CAN PUT TOGETHER TO HELP WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, WANTING SOLAR.

THEY'RE PRE PUT TOGETHER TYPE, UH, MOBILE UNITS THAT YOU CAN TAKE AND BRING TO A SITE AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR YOUR POWER AND SELL THOSE FROM THERE.

AND YES, OUT OF THAT IS ALL I WAS WANTING TO DO.

IT'S NOT A BIG MANUFACTURING.

I'M JUST WANTING SOMETHING THAT, HEY, AS I GET OLDER, I DON'T WANNA WORK IN THE OIL FIELD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO NOT DO NOTHING.

I'M, I'M SOMEBODY THAT ALWAYS LIKES TO WORK.

SO THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THAT I WAS WANTING TO BE ABLE TO DO IN THE FUTURE.

ALL OF THESE THINGS, THIS IS THE REASON WHY I BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AT THE WHOLE FIRST PLACE OF THINGS IS BECAUSE I HAD ALL OF THIS AND ALL OF THIS IS JUST NOT MY VISION.

THIS IS WHAT I BELIEVE HAS BEEN AN IDEA TO HELP PEOPLE, UM, MORE FOR STAFF.

UM, SO THE, THIS IDEA OF AN RV PARK IS JUST EXCLUDED FROM OUR PACKET.

SO IT, I I THINK THE, THE WORD RV PARK WAS ACTUALLY JUST LEFT OFF OF THE STAFF REPORT, BUT IT REQUIRES AN L ZONING,

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THE RV PARK.

UM, IN, IN ORDER TO GET THE L THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE AGRI AGRIBUSINESS TIER.

THE PLAN, THE LAND USE CATEGORY ACCOMMODATES FOR THE L REQUEST, THE R P SS REQUEST AND THE I ONE REQUEST.

ALL THREE OF THOSE DISTRICTS ARE A CONSISTENT ZONING DISTRICT.

SO IT'S BECAUSE REMEMBER, AGRIBUSINESS TIER ALLOWS FOR A MIX OF INDUSTRIAL AND RESIDENTIAL ZONING.

SO HOW COME THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION WE HAD SAID, UH, INCLUDING A SPECIFIC USE FOR A MOBILE HOME.

THAT'S THE, THAT'S THAT ONE NEXT TO WHERE HE WAS DESCRIBING OF THE, UH, WHERE HE'S GOING TO MANUFACTURE THE SOLAR PANELS AND, UH, THE TINY HOME PARTS.

THERE IS ONE, UH, ONE OF THE REQUESTS IS FOR SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR ONE MANUFACTURED HOME.

THAT'S WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK HIS PARENT, HIS FAMILY WOULD BE LIVING IN THAT ONE.

IN ORDER TO ADD ONE MORE MANUFACTURED HOME, YOU NEED A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION, BUT YOU CAN ADD A BUNCH MORE WITHOUT IT.

NO, YOU NEED THE CORRECT ZONING FOR A MANUFACTURED HOME.

SO WHETHER HE, SO THE ZONING IS DENIED.

SO HE, BUT SO NOW THE SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ALLOWS HIM TO ADD THAT ONE MORE? IS THAT WHAT IT IS? IF ZONING IS APPROVED, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT.

IT'S NOT ZONED FOR IT RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT NOW THE ZONING IS RP.

OKAY.

UM, AND I THINK THIS, SO, UH, BACK TO THE APPLICANT, UM, HOW MANY, UH, HOMES ARE YOU LOOKING AT HERE? SORRY, I, I KNOW THAT YOU'VE HEARD A LOT, BUT IT'S 120 RV SPOTS TOTAL OF PROPERTY TOGETHER AND ONE MOBILE HOME AND ONE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING BOTH OF THE MANUFACTURING OF THE TINY HOMES AND OF THE SOLAR.

OKAY.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AND USUALLY I DON'T ASK THESE KIND OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE LAND USE HERE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE ABOUT IT, UH, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND WE'RE REVIEWING STUFF THAT I WASN'T EVEN AWARE WE WERE GONNA BE REVIEWING TODAY.

SO I'M GONNA ASK THE QUESTION.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE CONCERNS OVER THE SEPTIC ISSUE ON THIS, AND BY MY BACK OF THE NAPKIN CALCULATIONS THAT I JUST DID, YOU'RE AT ABOUT, UH, WHAT'D YOU SAY? UH, HOW MANY HOMES? 120.

120 FEET.

YOU'RE AT ABOUT 20.

YOU'RE AT ABOUT 24,000 GALLONS OF SEWER PER DAY JUST FOR THE HOMES, ACCORDING, ACCORDING YOUR MANUFACTURING FACILITY, WHATEVER YOU'RE DOING.

SO OUR THAT'S 5,000 MAX ALLOWED PER RIGHT.

SO ANY MORE THAN THAT, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE TO GET AN OFFICIALLY LICENSED AND PERMITTED SEWER SYSTEM.

CORRECT.

HOW ARE YOU GONNA HANDLE THAT? WELL, OUR, MY ENGINEER GUI HAS ALREADY STARTED HIS DESIGN WORK ON THAT AND IS ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THE, THE AMOUNT THAT THEY ARE REQUIRING FOR THE 25 GALLONS PER DAY PER CODE FOR THE RVS.

AND WITH THAT, WE ARE STILL WELL UNDER OF THE AMOUNT OF LAND AND, AND THE AMOUNT OF WHERE THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS ARE GOING TO BE BACKED AT.

AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE WITH THE T E Q, THE MONITORING OF THEM, AND THEY ARE PART OF THE BUILDING CODE OF THAT.

AND IT IS THE ACCEPTED CODE AND ACCEPTED OF THE, THE USAGE OF WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AT AND THE DRAINAGE.

HE HAS ALREADY DONE THE, THE PRE DRAINAGE TESTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MORE THAN AMPLE.

HE SAID IT IS THE BEST AREA THAT COULD HAVE EVER BEEN FOR A SEPTIC TANK TO NEVER CAUSE PROBLEMS. SO I'M GOING OFF OF WHAT HE SAID, I'M NOT THAT INDIVIDUAL.

I'M TAKING HIM AS MY HIRED PROFESSIONAL.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UM, I GUESS THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.

THANK YOU.

A QUESTION FOR STAFF, YOU MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS CONSISTENT WITH THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN.

IS THIS PART OF THE A AND M REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, OR IS THIS TOO FAR OUT? IT'S NOT PART OF ANY, OF ANY OF THE REGIONAL CENTERS.

I GUESS IT WOULD BE IN A, UH, ONE OF THE COMMUNITY PLANS, WHICH ARE PRETTY FAR DOWN.

IT WOULD BE PART OF THE UPCOMING COMMUNITY PLAN WITH SA TOMORROW.

I MEAN, EV EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY'S PART OF EITHER A COMMUNITY PLAN OR A REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.

BUT IT'S NOT IN THE, UH, UTAH, NOT IN THE A AND M A AND M PLAN? NO.

OKAY.

AND THEN CAN YOU PROBABLY GONNA BE IN MAYBE THE SOUTH COMMUNITY PLAN? THAT WILL BE PROBABLY IN YEAR FIVE.

OKAY.

AND THEN CAN YOU REITERATE WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT IT BE CONSISTENT WITH THE HERITAGE, UH, SECTOR PLAN? YEAH, SO PART OF THE REVIEW IS IN THE, ON A BIG PICTURE LEVEL OF THE, UH, SOUTH HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN.

AND, UM, PART OF THAT DEALS WITH THESE GREEN INDUSTRIES.

PART OF THAT DEALS WITH GREEN INNOVATION AND IT ALSO DEALS WITH THE, UH, THE LOW IMPACT INDUSTRIAL.

THOSE ARE ALL PARTS OF THEIR, THE BUSINESS PART, THE MISSION VERITY, PART OF THE HERITAGE SOUTH PLAN AND THE GOALS THERE.

AND SO IN THAT REGARD, I THINK THAT, UM, THE

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PROPOSAL MAKES SENSE AND AS, AS WELL AS THE ECOTOURISM.

SO EACH OF THOSE SORT OF APPLY TO THE DIFFERENT USES HERE ON THE SITE, UM, AS WELL AS THE, UM, YOU KNOW, SAYING THAT IT HAS ACCESS TO THE DIFFERENT HIGHWAYS THAT ARE NEARBY.

SO WHEN WAS THAT ADOPTED? TWO, 2010.

ABOUT A DECADE AGO.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR ASKING SUCH, UH, DETAILED QUESTIONS.

UM, I THINK WE DO HAVE, UM, SEVERAL RESPONSIBILITIES AS COMMISSIONERS.

I'M SURE WE DO HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LAND USE, BUT THE OTHER PART IS REALLY, UM, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THE COMMUNITY VOICE, THE COMMUNITY OPINIONS.

UM, I ALSO AM AN A, A CITY GAL.

UM, AND SO, UM, BUT I DO DEFINITELY RESPECT THOSE THAT, THAT CHOOSE THE COUNTRY LIVING.

AND I RESPECT ALL OF YOUR OPINIONS AND, AND HOW YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE.

AND SO, UM, FOR HAVING ABOUT 70 RESIDENTS IN THIS AREA, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND AND SEEING ALL OF YOU IN THE AUDIENCE, I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, HUDDLE AND SEE HOW YOU GOT SO MANY PEOPLE IT UP AND SEE HOW WE CAN DO SO ALSO FOR, UM, THE CITY AREA.

UM, ALL THAT TO SAY, UM, I ALSO, UM, AM OPPOSED, UM, STRONGLY BECAUSE OF THE VOICES OF THOSE THAT, UM, ARE LIVING, UM, IN THIS AREA.

UM, I THINK IT IS, UM, A PART OF OUR ROLE TO, TO RESPECT AND TO CONSIDER YOU ALL TO TAKE TIME.

UM, YOU ALL ARE IN ONE JOINT FORCE.

UM, I SAW, UM, HOW MANY, HOW MANY DIFFERENT, UM, PEOPLE ACTUALLY WERE OPPOSED TO THIS, NOT EVEN IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME, UM, TO VOICE YOUR CONCERNS AND BEING A PART OF THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WEEK.

THANK YOU.

ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THE I BET PROPOSED USE OF THE, UH, OF THE AREA.

UH, DOES SENIOR HOUSING GET COVERED HERE BECAUSE I'M, I'M, I'M A BIG PROPONENT ON HOUSING AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS AN IDEAL SITUATION FOR IT AND KEEP THE POPULATION KIND OF AT A LOWER LEVEL.

I'M NOT TOO SURE ABOUT THE LIGHT AND THE MANUFACTURING END OF IT AND, AND COMBINING THAT, BUT, UH, HOW DOES THAT WORK OUT? THE STAFF? SO ZONING DOESN'T REGULATE THE, THE TYPE OF HOUSING, UM, ZONING JUST REGULATES DENSITY.

UH, SO, UH, IN, I MEAN IF THE, IF HE WERE TO MARKET THE RV PARK AS, AS SENIOR HOUSING, THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT HE COULD DO.

UM, BUT THE CITY DOESN'T REGULATE THAT.

UM, THERE ARE WORKFORCE HOUSING PRODUCTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT ARE GIVEN FUNDS THROUGH THE STATE THAT, AND THEY HAVE TO, UH, COMPLY WITH THOSE COMPONENTS FROM THE STATE, BUT ZONING DOESN'T, UM, DETERMINE LEASE RATES OR, UM, WHO, WHO IT'S RENTED TO.

WELL, THANK YOU.

I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.

THE CITY REALLY NEEDS HOUSING AND THAT'S WHAT I WOULD SUPPORT.

THANK YOU.

YOU, I DO HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR STAFF, AND I'M SORRY, THIS IS FOLLOWING UP.

COMMISSIONER PECK'S QUESTION.

UM, IF HE WAS TO ADD JUST ONE MOBILE HOME FOR HIS IN-LAWS OR PARENTS AND NOT THE 120 RVS, BUT JUST THE MOBILE HOME, COULD HE DO THAT UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE OR HE STILL HAS TO REQUEST A CHANGE? HE COULD DO IT UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE.

I BELIEVE IT'S OUR, IF IT'S RP, THEN THAT IS WHAT'S ALLOWED IN A COUNTRY TIER, BUT HE STILL NEEDS A REZONING FOR AN SS.

OKAY.

SO FOR AS FAR AS LAND USE GOES, IF HE WANTED TO BUILD THAT HOME FOR HIS PARENTS, HE COULD STILL DO THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE SAY, BUT HE'D HAVE TO GO TO ZONING TO, TO ADDRESS THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

IF IT STAYS AS IT IS IN THE RP, THE EXISTING MOBILE HOME OR, UH, THE EXISTING RV PARK THAT'S THERE TODAY THAT WAS THERE BEFORE THE ANNEXATION OCCURRED, WOULD, IS THAT STILL OKAY? IS THAT STILL BILL GRANDFATHERED IN? OKAY.

ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF.

IS THERE ANY OTHER INDUSTRIAL USES OR ZONING PARCELS IN THAT AREA? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE LAND USAGE FOR THAT, THAT PART OF TOWN IS ALL COUNTRY TIER.

YEAH, SO FOR THE MOST PART, UM, THERE ISN'T INDUSTRIAL ZONING.

THERE ARE PARTS THAT ARE OUT OF CITY LIMITS AND THERE ARE USES THAT ARE INDUSTRIAL UP AND DOWN THE ROAD, UM, THAT ARE NON-CONFORMING USES.

BUT I, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THERE'S, UH, INDUSTRIAL ZONING THERE BECAUSE THE ZONING THERE WAS ESTABLISHED IN A BLANKET, UH, AFTER THAT ANNEXATION.

AND, UM, SO IN, IN TERMS OF ZONING, YOU DON'T SEE THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING THERE, BUT YOU DO SEE SOME INDUSTRIAL TYPE USES THAT ARE GRANDFATHERED IN.

OKAY.

SO SO IT WOULD BE NON-CONFORMING THEN? I GUESS EXISTING.

YEAH, EXISTING.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, I SAID BEFORE, THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME TO SPEAK TO US TODAY.

I'VE HEARD STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS

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AND I HAVE HEARD THIS PEOPLE'S RECOMMENDATIONS.

UM, I BELIEVE WE ARE READY FOR A MOTION.

UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DENY, UH, AND OPPOSE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER ROE ELLA GREENY, UH, MOTION FOR DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

STAFF.

YOU CAN TAKE THE ROLL CALL.

COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ? YES.

YES.

COMMISSIONER ROAR ROAR.

ALLEG GREENY? YES.

COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? NO.

COMMISSIONER CAUSTIC? NO.

COMMISSIONER PROPHET.

YES.

COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES.

COMMISSIONER PECK? YES.

CHAIRMAN GARCIA? YES.

MOTION PASSES AS DENIAL WITH A VOTE OF SIX TO TWO.

THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA

[5. PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600074 (Council District 2): A request by Kaufman and Killen, Representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Government Hill Neighborhood Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from from “Low Density Residential" to "Mixed Use" on 2.09 Acres out of NCB 1178 and NCB 1181, generally located at the intersection of Walters Street and IH 35 N. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700270) (Michael Pepe, Planner (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department) 5]

WILL BE THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

THIS WILL BE FOR, UM, EVERYONE SIGNED UP FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE.

JUST A REMINDER, WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING ITEM NUMBER FIVE TODAY.

IT'S WAS POSTPONED, SO THERE'LL BE NO, UH, DELIBERATION OR VOTES OR PRESENTATIONS FROM STAFF.

UM, FIRST PERSON SIGN UP TO SPEAK ETTE PITY NAME AND ADDRESS THE RECORDS.

YOU GOT TWO MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT.

HELLO, MY NAME IS TRUITT PRETTY.

UH, I AM THE REAL ESTATE MANAGER FOR QUICKTRIP CORPORATION.

UH, OUR ADDRESS IS 7 42 NORTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10, UH, SUITE 1 0 2 HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, 7 8 2 1 6.

SO I WANTED TO BRIEFLY SPEAK TODAY IN ORDER TO CONVEY, UH, TO THE RESIDENCE AND TO THE CITY, UM, THE REASONS WE QUIKTRIP ARE POSTPONING OUR PLAN AMENDMENT CASE.

TODAY.

UH, THROUGH THE COURSE OF THIS PROJECT, I HAVE MET NEARLY 100 RESIDENTS OF THE GOVERNMENT HILL AREA.

SO PRIDEFUL, VOCAL, AND RESILIENT NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH WE QUICKTRIP WILL CONTINUE TO STRIVE TO BE A PART OF.

UM, AND THE FIRST HALF OF OUR JOURNEY THROUGH THIS PROJECT, THE SUPPORT SEEMED TO OUTWEIGH THE OPPOSITION.

HOWEVER, THIS HAS CHANGED.

UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE WILL NOT ALWAYS HAVE MORE SUPPORT THAN OPPOSITION IN ALL OF OUR CASES.

UH, AND THAT SOMETIMES THAT'S JUST THE FACTOR OF CHANGE.

UH, AT OUR ZONING COMMISSION HEARING YESTERDAY, I BELIEVE THE FACTS WERE REVEALED AND THE PREVIOUS MISINFORMATION BEING PASSED AROUND HAS NOW BEEN LAID TO REST.

UH, AT QUICKTRIP WE DO THE RIGHT THING, AND I BELIEVE THIS HAS BEEN PROVEN THROUGH THE TIRELESS DUE DILIGENCE OF THIS PROJECT.

UH, WE ARE A NEVER ENDING EVOLVING COMPANY WHO REEVA REEVALUATES AND, UH, REALLY STRATEGIZES RELENTLESSLY.

AND AT THIS TIME, DUE TO SOME OF THE UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS SPECIFIC SITE, WE ARE REEVALUATING THE COMP COMPATIBILITY OF THIS SPECIFIC SITE TO OUR FEASIBILITY AND ECONOMICAL NEEDS.

UM, SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I WANT TO THANK ALL THE RESIDENTS AT GOVERNMENT HILL, WHETHER IN ALL OPPOSITION OR SUPPORT.

UM, THEY HAVE SPENT JUST AS MUCH TIME AND SWEAT ON THIS PROJECT AS I HAVE, AND THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION.

SO THAT SAYS A LOT, YOU KNOW.

UM, BUT I DO HOPE IN THE NEAR FUTURE I CAN BRING, UH, FORTH A QT DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE IN FAVOR OF.

SO I DO WANNA BE IN GOVERNMENT HILL AND I HOPE TO HAVE HILL AND I HOPE TO HAVE THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT PERSON I TO SPEAK.

VALERIE REYNOLDS, I DON'T THINK WE'RE CLEAR ON WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT.

AND LEMME JUST KIND, KIND OF HERE, KIND OF CLARIFY.

HE'S ACTUALLY POSTPONED THE CASE, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT GONNA BE CONSIDERED TODAY.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S SORT OF LIKE PUTTING IT ON HOLD.

THEY'RE GONNA PUT IT ON HOLD, REASSESSED, DETERMINE IF THEY WANT TO PROCEED.

IF THEY DO WANNA PROCEED AGAIN, THEN NEW NOTICE WILL GO OUT.

THIS STARTS, KIND OF STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN.

UH, SO THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON TODAY.

SO THE CHAIR IS ELECTED TO ALLOW YOU TO, UH, THE TIME TO SPEAK SINCE YOU ARE HERE.

SO YOU CAN CHOOSE TO SPEAK OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK, BUT THE CASES POSTPONED WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED, WILL NOT BE VOTED ON.

IT'S NOT PROCEEDING UNLESS THEY DECIDE TO PROCEED.

THEN IT

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RESTARTS EVERYTHING.

IT, IT'S PART OF THE MINUTES.

ALRIGHT, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

MY NAME IS VALERIE REYNOLDS AND I OWN A SMALL BUSINESS BUSINESS AND DISTRICT TWO, UH, NINE 14 NOLAN.

I'M NOT IN GOVERNMENT HILL, BUT I'M IN NUITY.

UM, I'VE OWNED AND OPERATED BY SMALL BUSINESS FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS NOW.

I'M HERE TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF A GAS STATION IN A SMALL AND HISTORIC SAN ANTONIO NEIGHBORHOOD.

CURRENTLY THERE ARE 11 GAS STATIONS ALL IN A MILE AND A HALF RADIUS OF EACH OTHER.

UM, I THINK THAT MOST PEOPLE COULD SEE THAT AT SOME POINT ALL THE GAS STATIONS ARE OVERKILL.

IS THERE REALLY A NEED FOR A GAS STATION AT EVERY CORNER? HOW DO SO MANY GAS STATIONS REALLY BRING POSITIVE CHANGE AND TRUE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD? WOULD IT MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTHIER, SAFER? WOULD HOME VALUES INCREASE? WOULD MORE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE AND RAISE FAMILIES NEAR A GAS STATION? THE ANSWER IS NO.

SMART, THOUGHTFUL GROWTH AND NEIGHBORHOOD REVITALIZATION IS IMPORTANT ALL OVER SAN ANTONIO.

IT SHOULD BE THE SAME FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

SMART IN THE WAY OF A QUALITY GROCERY STORE WITH AFFORDABLE STAPLES SUCH AS EGGS, FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, AND OTHER HOUSEHOLD NECESSITIES.

THOUGHTFUL IN THE WAY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH CLINIC THAT COULD PROVIDE CARE TO THE AGING POPULATION IN THE AREA, OR IMMUNIZATIONS TO THE CHILDREN WHO GO TO PERSHING ELEMENTARY LOCATED JUST 450 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED GAS STATION.

I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO DRIVE THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT DISTRICT TWO AND THE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN IT.

WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER GAS STATION, NOT EVEN IF IT IS THE GOLD STANDARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT PERSON SIMON TO SPEAK IS STEVE SIZ NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU GOT TWO MINUTES.

HI, MY NAME IS STEVE STI, 1 0 5 RENO STREET.

UM, I, I GUESS IT'S UNCLEAR WHAT REEVALUATING AND STILL BEING GOVERNMENT HILL IS, UH, LOOKS LIKE.

UM, ALL WE KNOW IS WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY PROPOSED, UH, WHICH DIDN'T FIT IN THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AS THE ZONING COMMISSION AGREED.

UM, SO I MEAN, IT, IT WAS FROM A PLANNING SENSE, IT WAS PRETTY IMPRACTICAL TO COMBINE SEVEN LOTS, UH, SEVEN PARCELS SAY IT WAS MULTI-USE AND MAKE IT ALL ENTIRELY C TWO.

THAT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

IF IT'S MULTI-USE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A DIFFERENT USE CLOSER TO THE, UH, LARGER ARTERIES.

AND THAT WAS ONE TINY, UM, PARCEL THERE THAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE CORNER.

SO THEY WEREN'T MIXING THESE AT ALL.

UH, SO IT WAS BASICALLY DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

AND I GUESS THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY TODAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT TIME TO SPEAK.

UM, EMIL.

ALRIGHT, I THINK HE STEPPED OUT.

LEMME GO GET HIM.

OKAY, NEXT.

AFTER LIZ FRANKLIN HIT ME A STOOL, NO, LIZ FRANKLIN FIVE 15 HAYES.

UH, MAN, THAT TRUETT IS THE GUY, RIGHT? I AM OPPOSED TO THE QT PROJECT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IF HE NEEDS A RIDE TO ANOTHER LOCATION MORE THAN 450 FEET, THAT IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WERE WITH THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLANT GOING BACK INTO TWO PHASES, 2008 AND 2010.

I'M HIS GIRL AND I'LL USE THE OTHER GUY'S GUESS HE, I MEAN, HE'S BEEN, HE'S A PERFECT MODEL AND REPRESENTATION.

AND THE REASON I'M TELLING YOU THIS, NO, I DON'T WANT IT THERE.

IT'S THE WRONG SITE.

I LOVE THE COMPANY.

WHEN I HEARD ABOUT IT, THEY PAY BETTER.

THEY'RE CLEANER.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD NEIGHBORS, THE GOOD PARTNERS.

IT WAS THE WRONG SITE.

OKAY? BUT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS THEY'RE HERE TO STAY AND DO BUSINESS IN SAN ANTONIO WHEN AND WITH A GUY LIKE HIM, AND I DON'T SAY THAT A LOT, BUT I, HE, HE'S, HE'S A STANDARD BEARER AND THERE'S NOT MANY OF THEM AROUND.

YOU GOTTA KEEP THEM.

AND, UM, I REALIZE NOT IN MY, YEAH, I'M, I'M BLOWN AWAY BY THE POSTPONEMENT THING.

I WANNA GO BUY 'EM DRINKS RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T DRINK ANYMORE.

UH, BUT THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS, IS I SAW SOMETHING ELSE THAT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR QT 30 SECONDS.

THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE HERE AND THEY HAVE THE DIPLOMATIC EYE TO STEP BACK FROM A CONTROVERSIAL PROJECT AND REEVALUATE.

AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN EVERY DAY.

WE GOTTA KEEP THEM.

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, YOLANDA DOLPHIN.

OH, OKAY.

EMIL EMIL, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S EMIL .

UH, AND I HAVE ABOUT 41 YEARS OF BEING AN ARCHITECT AND A CITY PLANNER.

I WAS ACTUALLY PLANNING DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

I RETIRED IN, UH, 90 2007, AND I CREATED MY OWN FIRM CALLED TOWN PLANNING AND DESIGN.

AND ACTUALLY, UH, CATHERINE USED TO WORK FOR ME, SO SHE KEPT ME STRAIGHT.

I WANNA FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF THINGS.

ONE IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED TODAY FOR THIS AREA, IT GENERALLY INDICATES REALLY, UH, A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ALONG WALTER STREET.

BUT IN, IN THE TERMS OF THAT DOCUMENT, MIXED USE IS NOT INCLUDED IN TERMS OF A SERVICE STATION.

UH, MIXED USE IS, I WOULD IMAGINE AS ALL US PLAN COMMISSIONERS UNDERSTAND NEW URBANISM BEING A MIXED USE OF RETAILS OFFICE AND A PLACE TO LIVE.

SO THE IDEA IS TO GET MORE PEOPLE ON THEIR FEET TO WALK THESE PARTICULAR AREAS.

SO REALLY THE, THE, THE WHOLE IDEA IN THE PLAN WAS TO HAVE WALTER STREET REALLY BECOME LIKE A BOULEVARD SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC INTO FORT SAM.

OR THE IDEA IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PROPERTY HAVING ACCESS ONTO WALTER STREET, SO THAT BOULEVARD WOULD HAVE A MEDIAN AND THEN YOU'D HAVE A LOT OF TREES ON ONE SIDE.

SO THAT'S REALLY THE BASIC CONCEPT FOR THIS AREA.

AND, AND I'M AS PLAN COMMISSION, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT IN TERMS OF THE PLAN.

THE SECOND THING IS, IN 2010 THERE WAS A, IN 2010 THERE WAS A CHARETTE DONE FOR THE AREA THAT INCLUDED ALL THE COMMUNITY TO DEVELOP AN IDEA OF WHAT TO DO WITH THAT PARTICULAR AREA, SPECIFICALLY AGAIN, WALTERS AVENUE, THE AREA TO THE EAST, AND ALSO THE AREA TO THE WEST.

AND THAT CONCEPT WAS TO MAINTAIN, AGAIN, WALTERS IS A BOULEVARD WITH NO ACCESS ONTO WALTERS FROM THE WEST SIDE OR THE EAST SIDE, SIMPLY TO MOVE THE TRAFFIC UNIMPEDED THROUGH THAT AREA BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU HAD FORT SAM THERE.

SO IT'S A BETTER MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC TO GET INTO THE, THE AREA.

AND THE IDEA WAS TO PLACE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST OF WALTERS.

AGAIN, CONTINUE REVITALIZING REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT RESIDENTIAL AREA.

AND THE IDEA TO THE, TO THE EAST WAS TO CREATE A BLOCK OF MIXED TWO BLOCKS OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE, UH, MAYBE HIGH DENSITY DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO WALTERS, WHERE I WOULD BE IN A, IN A UNIT AND LOOKING OUT TO WALTERS, BUT I WOULD HAVE NO DIRECT AUTOMOBILE ACCESS TO IT WITH THE IDEA THAT THE STREET PARALLEL TO WALTERS ON THE EAST SIDE WOULD BE FOR A NEW MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS YOU WOULD BRING THE PEOPLE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS COMING ACROSS WALTERS AT THE RED LIGHTS AND BRINGING THEM INTO THE MORE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE PEOPLE COMING FROM FORT SAM HOUSTON INTO THAT AREA AS PART OF THAT COMMUNITY.

30 SECONDS.

SO, SO YOU WOULD HAVE, THE WHOLE IDEA IS CREATE A, A TOWN CENTER WHERE PEOPLE CAN COME AND CON CONGREGATE.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO REQUEST FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT A PLAN TO MOVE FORWARD AND A STRATEGY TO IMPLEMENT THAT PARTICULAR CHARETTE.

I THINK THAT'S A, A NEED FOR THE CITY, UH, FORT SAM HOUSTON AND THE COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AS AN IMPLEMENTATION TOOL TO MAKE THIS THING HAPPEN.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE, UM, DATE THAT COLE NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU GOT TWO MINUTES.

WHAT WAS YOUR NAME, MA'AM? OKAY.

OKAY.

HI, MY NAME IS D COLE.

ACTUALLY,

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MY NAME IS DIA COLE, MY HUSBAND STEVE STE.

AND I LIVE AT 1 0 5 RENO STREET.

FIVE YEARS AGO, I PURCHASED MY HOME IN A SMALL, QUIET RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD ON A HILL OVERLOOKING THE CITY.

I HAD EVERY RIGHT AND EVERY EXPECTATION FOR THIS STREET AND HOME TO REMAIN RESIDENTIAL.

NEVER IMAGINING A GAS STATION CAN BE BUILT 30 FEET FROM MY FRONT YARD.

THIS GAS STATION PRO PROJECT, THAT'S OUR HOUSE.

THIS GAS STATION PROJECT POSES A SIGNIFICANT ENCROACHMENT ON OUR SMALL SCALE SINGLE FAMILY, MULTI-GENERATIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, SEVERAL ZONING COMMISSIONERS STATED YESTERDAY TO QUOTE, IT'S SO HUGE.

IT'S JUST TOO BIG FOR THIS AREA HERE.

IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO HOMES.

IT'S TOO CLOSE TO EXISTING HOMES WITH NO BUFFER FROM R SIX TO C TWO.

IT'S NOT WHAT IS IN THE PLAN.

IT DOESN'T FIT OUR PRE OUR PEDESTRIAN FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT DEVALUES OUR HOMES FOR RESALE KILLING CURB APPEAL BECAUSE FACT IS NO ONE WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO A GAS STATION.

IT SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES TRAFFIC INTO AND THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT EXPOSES US TO TOXIC FUMES AND VAPORS.

IT'S 450 FEET FROM PERSHING ELEMENTARY AND IN THE SCHOOL ZONE.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE RESOUNDING MAJORITY OF NEIGHBORS IN THE 200 FOOT PROXIMITY OF THE TWO ACRE GAS STATION AND BLOCKS BEYOND.

DO NOT WANT A GAS STATION HERE.

THAT'S THE SECOND.

OUTSIDERS AND PROPONENTS OF THIS GAS STATION PROJECT HAVE TRIED TO PORTRAY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS RUNDOWN, UNSAFE, SCARY, AND DERELICT TO THAT WE WOULD ANSWER.

WE HAVE GOLD STANDARD PEOPLE LIVING IN WELL LOVED HOMES.

WE ARE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF PREDOMINANTLY INHERITED HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN IN FAMILIES FOR SEVERAL GENERATIONS.

WE HAVE A LOT OF OLDER FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 40 YEARS OR MORE.

WE ARE REGENERATING.

WE ARE A REGENERATING NEIGHBORHOOD WITH YOUNGER FAMILIES.

MOVING INTO WHAT WAS GRANDMA'S HOUSE.

WE HAVE YOUNG COUPLES BUYING THEIR STARTER HOMES BECAUSE IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL A BLOCK AWAY.

WE HAVE SECURITY SYSTEMS THAT MONEY CAN'T BUY WITH NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE OUR BACKS AND HAVE THEIR EYES ON OUR PROPERTIES AND HOMES 24 7.

WE ARE EXTREMELY HOUSE PROUD AND THROUGH ALL OF THIS NIGHTMARE OF THE GAS STATION PROPOSAL, WE'VE ALL BEEN MADE TO FEEL LESS THAN THAT.

OUR LIVES DON'T MATTER AS MUCH AS PROFITS.

THAT THE REAL FEARS WE HAVE FOR OUR HEALTH SAFETY AND THE DEVALUATION OF OUR PROPERTIES IS INSIGNIFICANT.

THAT OUR HOMES COULD BE MADE BETTER OR BE BETTER IF THEY WERE PLOWED DOWN.

THAT OUR SMALL VOICES NEED TO QUIT ASKING SO MANY QUESTIONS AND JUST BE QUIET.

OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SORELY NEEDS INVIGORATION OF NEW DEVELOPMENT.

WE EAGERLY WELCOME NEW FACES AND BUSINESSES TO OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ONES THAT PROVIDE AND FEED OUR NEEDS WITHOUT DESTROYING THE ABILITY FOR OUR KIDS TO PLAY IN OUR, IN THE YARD OR SAFELY WALK TO SCHOOL.

WE'RE IN FAVOR OF LOW DENSITY MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY HOUSING, GROCERY STORES, THINGS THAT FIT INTO A PEDESTRIAN URBAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.

AND OUR, MY LAST PLEA WAS TO PLEASE DON'T MAKE US THE MODEL FOR WHAT NOT TO DO IN AN OLD SCHOOL URBAN SAN ANTONIO NEIGHBORHOOD BY ALLOWING A GAS STATION TO BE BUILT AT ONE 12 RENO STREET.

AND WITH THAT, I CAN, I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE, BUT THAT WE'RE INCREDIBLY ECSTATIC AND WE FEEL LIKE WE'VE BEEN HEARD AND, UM, IT'S FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE LORENZO ORTIZ NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME'S LORENZO ORTIZ.

I HAVE, UH, I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 25 47 IH 35.

I'M ACTUALLY, UH, ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.

I PURCHASED MY PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT OVER A YEAR AGO.

I'M ACTUALLY STILL REMODELING IT.

UM, THAT'S WAS, UH, THE PURPOSE WAS FOR MY RETIREMENT, SEEING THE SKYLIGHT OF SAN ANTONIO.

I AM FROM SAN ANTONIO.

I'VE LIVED HERE ALL MY LIFE.

SO IT WAS A PERFECT PROPERTY TO BUY WHEN IT CAME AVAILABLE TO MAKING MY DREAM HOME.

BY ALLOWING QT TO BE MY NEIGHBOR WOULD CHANGE ALL ASPECTS OF WHAT I NEEDED OR WHAT I WANT AS MY DREAM HOME.

UH, PLEASE, UH, TAKE IN CONSIDERATION LATER, UM, THAT IT'S NOT THE RIGHT FIT FOR THE COMMUNITY.

UM, AS YOU SAW EARLIER, ALL THE EX IS UP.

WE'RE A UNITED COM COMMUNITY.

WE ALL SPEAK TO EACH OTHER.

WE, WE TALK TO EACH OTHER.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ACTUALLY WANT IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND THAT'S WHY I CHOSE THAT COMMUNITY TO MAKE MY MY RETIREMENT DAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, FUN AND LIVING TO, TO SEE THE SKYLIGHT OF SAN ANTONIO.

UM, MY EX IS THE, THE

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EX RIGHT NEXT TO THE GREEN.

SO IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE TWO DOORS DOWN AND I DON'T WANT THAT FOR MYSELF OR MY FAMILY.

UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR CONSIDERATION WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S TAKEN PLACE.

AND, UH, Y'ALL HAVE A NICE DAY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE MARLENE HAWKINS.

AMY, ADDRESS THE RECORD.

YOU GOT TWO MINUTES.

I'LL MAKE THIS QUICK.

I'M HERE TO, UH, GO AGAINST WHAT WAS SAID YESTERDAY AT ZONING.

THAT WAS A LIE.

AND BECAUSE IT WAS SAID AFTER WE SPOKE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO CHANGE IT.

UH, CARLOS RESENDEZ, WHO'S A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE CELLAR, SAID THAT NO CHILDREN WILL WALK BY THAT SITE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE OVER AT THE SAHA PROPERTIES, THE PARK AND SUTTON OAKS THAT WALK SEVEN BLOCKS TO SCHOOL AND SEVEN BLOCKS FROM SCHOOL.

AND THAT THEY WOULD WALK RIGHT BY THAT SITE EVERY DAY WITH GETTING TENTS, UH, WITH THE FUMES THAT ARE, UH, PROVIDED FROM THERE.

AND THOSE FUMES CONTAIN BENZENE, WHICH IS KNOWN CARCINOGEN OZONE, WHICH WE KNOW WE'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

AND ANOTHER STATION TO PRODUCE MORE OZONE IS NOT WHAT WE NEED.

UH, THE, THE MOTHERS OF THESE CHILDREN HAVE MADE ARRANGEMENTS WITH EACH OTHER TO WALK THE KIDS TO SCHOOL.

YOU DON'T SEND ELEMENTARY STUDENTS ACROSS THIS VERY BUSY INTERSECTIONS.

SO MOTHERS PUSHING STROLLERS WITH OTHER KIDS IN IT, WALK THE KIDS TO AND FROM SCHOOL, UH, FROM THE SUTTON OAKS AND THE, UH, AND THE UH, THE PARK AREA.

UH, WHY IS WALKING, UH, BY THE NOT GOOD IS NOT GOOD BECAUSE OF THE BENZENE, WHICH I MENTIONED THIS BENZENE AND THE FUME, FUME PLUME FROM THE STATION CAN GO OUT 800 TO A THOUSAND FEET, 30 SECONDS.

AND THAT INCLUDES THE SCHOOL AND THE CITY PARK THAT'S NEXT TO THE SCHOOL.

AND THAT IS, THAT IS BAD FOR HEALTH.

AND THAT IS MY BIG CONSIDERATION, UH, FOR RE FOR BEING AGAINST IT, IS THE HEALTH EFFECTS THAT IT WILL HAVE ON THE, ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CHILDREN.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND FINALLY WE HAVE BARBARA, BARBARA GAY, BARBARA.

OH, OKAY.

THAT BEING SAID, THAT IS IT FOR CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.

THANK YOU EVERYONE.

YOU DECIDED TO SHOW UP AND SPEAK TODAY.

NEXT ITEM IN THE

[13. Consideration and Action on the Minutes from January 8, 2020.]

AGENDA MEETING MINUTES.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CORRECTIONS ON THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE A MOTION.

WE CAN FIND THE MEETING MINUTES ON THE LINK.

UH, WE, THE SYSTEM HAD SOME IMPROVE BUT YOU COPIED THEM FOR THEM.

OH YEAH, IT WAS, I SAW IT IN THE EMAIL SHE MAKE WITH THIS.

OH, IT COPIES.

I THINK IT WAS DISTRIBUTED AT THE WORK SESSION, BUT UM, YEAH, THE SYSTEM HAD A NEW UPGRADE, SO WE HAVE TO FLIP THE SWITCH MORE OR LESS SO THINGS CAN BE SEEN ONLINE.

OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MEETING MINUTES? DID THE MINUTES ACTUALLY GO OUT TO ANYBODY? I SAW IN THE EMAIL WE DID.

YEAH, THEY WERE IN IN THE EMAIL.

SO WE SEND AN EMAIL AND WE SEND IT AS A P D F IN THE EMAIL AS WELL.

OKAY, GREAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A MOTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE.

WE HAVE A MOTION.

COMMISSIONER.

ROYAL GREE.

WE HAVE A GREENY.

WE HAVE A SECOND.

UH, SEVERAL SECONDS APPARENTLY.

CAN WE DO A VOICE VOTE ON THIS? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MEETING MINUTES ARE DONE.

DO WE HAVE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOTHING ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT.

ANY OTHER STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM ANYBODY OR ANYTHING? I SEE CONSULTATION WITH THE ATTORNEY? NO.

ANY OTHER STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS? .

ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? ER, ER, .

THERE IT IS.

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WE ARE ADJOURNED.