Sep 01, 2026 Sesión de Trabajo del Presupuesto del Consejo de la Ciudad

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>> MAYOR JONES: THE TIME IS NOW 9:07 A.M. ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 2026, AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BUDGET WORK SESSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.

>> CLERK: MAYOR, WE HAVE QUORUM. >> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU.

THIS MORNING WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW THE TIRZ, NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND HOMELESSNESS SERVICES. ERIK, OVER TO YOU.

>> WALSH: BEFORE WE BEGIN THE PRESENTATIONS, I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL -- YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT IN THE PRESENTATION. OVER THE LAST DAY OR SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON DEVELOPING AN EMERGENCY HOMEOWNER REPAIR PROGRAM TO ADD THOSE RESIDENTS THAT WERE AFFECTED BY FRIDAY'S STORM.

PRIMARILY DISTRICT 4, 5, 1, AND A LITTLE BIT OF DISTRICT 10.

WE ANTICIPATE HAVING A PROPOSED PROGRAM TO YOU ALL BY THE END OF THE WEEK.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT FISCAL YEAR '26 AVAILABLE RESOURCES.

REDIRECTING FY27 HOME REPAIR FUNDS, ALTHOUGH THAT'S NOT -- WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO NOT DO THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ENOUGH NEED OUT THERE FOR THE MINOR AND MAJOR REPAIR PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT CITY-INITIATED TIRZ AND THEN POTENTIAL STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE. WE WOULD ASK THE EOC TO MAKE CONTACT WITH FEMA ABOUT ANY ELIGIBLE PROGRAMS THAT HOMEOWNERS COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE IT IN THIS MORNING'S PRESENTATION BUT WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT PROPOSED PLAN TO YOU ALL BY THE END OF THE WEEK. JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT.

>> MAYOR JONES: THANKS, ERIK. I KNOW FOR MANY OF US THAT'S TOP OF MIND AS HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE SOONER, RATHER THAN LATER.

>> WALSH: WE'LL START OFF WITH VERONICA AND TIRZ. WE'LL GO INTO HOUSING

AFTERWARDS AND HOMELESS WITH MARK CARMONA. >> I'M VERONICA GARCIA, DIRECTOR OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

I'M JOINED BY OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, TROY ELLIOTT.

OUR TEAMS WORK TOGETHER TO OVERSEE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING.

WE WILL HIGHLIGHT THIS CRITICAL TOOL OUR CITY HAS THE FOR SUPPORTING STRATEGIC DEVELOP. TIF IS A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT STRATEGY THAT ALLOWS US TO REINVEST ADDED TAX VALUE INTO NEIGHBORHOODS.

TIF HAS HELPED STRENGTHEN INFRASTRUCTURE, SUPPORT REVITALIZATION EFFORTS, REINVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY ACCESS, ENCOURAGE PRIVATE INVESTMENTS, AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE ACROSS SAN ANTONIO. THIS SESSION WILL WALK THROUGH THE CURRENT TIF DISTRICTS AND BUDGETS, HOW FUNDS HAVE BEEN USED, AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR EXPANDING VALUE MOVING FORWARD. TAX INCREMENT FINANCING IS AUTHORIZED BY CHAPTER 311 OF THE TEXAS CODE TO PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE ZONE. FUNDING IS USED TO SUPPORT ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS AND SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE ZONE. WE CAN COVER EVERYTHING FROM CAPITAL COSTS, INCLUDING LAND ACQUISITION, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, DEMOLITION, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS, AS WELL AS PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND STUDIES THAT ALL BENEFIT THE ZONE. CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED OUR UPDATED TIF PROGRAM POLICY BACK IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. THE POLICY REITERATES OUR PRIORITY TO FUND SPECIFIC TYPES OF OBJECTIVES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, ARTS AND CULTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TRAINING PROGRAMS, AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND PLACEMAKING.

THE UPDATED POLICY ALSO ADDRESSES DISPLACEMENT, INCLUDING SPECIFIC DEFINITIONS AND REITERATES THE NEED TO DO A DISPLACEMENT IMPACT ASSESSMENT FOR NEW PROJECTS, TO UNDERSTAND THE VULNERABILITIES OF SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. TIF FINANCING WORKS BY FREEZING THE TAX BASE AT THE TIME THE ZONE IS CREATED. AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS, THE PROPERTY TAX VALUES RISE AND THE FUTURE INCREMENTAL TAX REVENUE OVER THAT INITIAL BASE IS CAPTURED INTO A TIRZ FUND, WHICH THEN FINANCES THE ELIGIBLE IMPROVEMENTS. EACH TIRZ HAS A TIME LIMIT AND A DATE OF WHEN THE TIRZ WILL END AND ONCE THAT END DATE IS REACHED, ALL OF THAT VALUE GOES BACK INTO THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND. THE TAX CODE ALLOWS FOR TWO TYPES OF TIRZ -- WE DO HAVE BOTH IN SAN ANTONIO. CITY-INITIATED TIRZ AS WELL

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BOTH THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITIES.

THE HOUSTON STREET TIRZ HAS FUNDED EVERYTHING FROM IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY-OWNED ALAMEDA THEATER AS WELL AS ACTIVATION OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA AND FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE CATTLEMAN'S SQUARE AREA. THERE ARE NO NEW PROJECTS ON SEPTEMBER 10 BUT FOR FUTURE BOARD CONSIDERATION THERE WILL BE UPDATES FOR THE MISSIONS BALLPARK PROJECT. THE INNER CITY TIRZ INCLUDES COUNCIL DISTRICTS 1, 2, AND 5 AND CURRENTLY GOES THROUGH 2035. THE CITY IS THE ONLY PARTICIPATING ENTITY AND RECENTLY-APPROVED PROJECTS INCLUDE UPDATES TO -- AND IMPROVEMENTS TO CITY-OWNED FACILITIES SUCH AS ELLA AUSTIN, LA VILLITA, AND MAVERICK PLAZA, AS WELL AS ACQUIRING LAND FOR FUTURE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND IMPROVEMENTS TO MAHNCKE PARK. ON SEPTEMBER 10 CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO CONSIDER EXTENDING THE TERM OF THE TIRZ THROUGH 2060.

THIS WILL ALIGN WITH TERMS ACROSS OTHER CITY-INITIATED TIRZ AND THE EXTENSION WILL ALSO SUPPORT MORE FLEXIBLE FINANCING PROJECTS WHICH THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING.

ONE OF THOSE IS THE DISTRICT 2 SENIOR CENTER AND AQUATIC CENTER.

THAT IS PROPOSED ALSO FOR CONSIDERATION ON SEPTEMBER 10.

IT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE BOARD. THE BOARD ALSO, IN THE FUTURE, WILL BE CONSIDERING DESIGN FOR COPERNICUS PARK AS WELL AS POSSIBLE FUNDING FOR THE LONE STAR PROJECT. LONE STAR IS A 57-ACRE MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT THAT INCLUDES HISTORIC REHAB, MULTIFAMILY USES, RETAIL, AND GREEN SPACE.

THE DEVELOPER ASKED THE CITY TO CONSIDER FUNDING FOR RECONSTRUCTION OF LONE STAR BOULEVARD. LOTS OF FUTURE PROJECTS PLANNED FOR THE INNER CITY TIRZ AND EXTENDING THAT TERM TO 2060 NOT ONLY ALIGNS THE TERM WITH OTHER TIRZ BUT ALSO PROVIDES THAT FINANCING OPTIONS FOR THE FUTURE PROJECTS.

THE BROOKS CITY BASE TIRZ GOES THROUGH 2039 AND INCLUDES DISTRICT 3 AND THE CITY IS THE ONLY PARTICIPATING ENTITY . THIS PARTICULAR TIRZ SUPPORTS DEBT USED FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO IMPROVE PARKS AND STREETS WITHIN BROOKS CITY BASE. THE VERANO TIRZ GOES THROUGH 2045 AND INCLUDES BOTH DISTRICTS 3 AND 4. THERE ARE SEVERAL PARTICIPATING ENTITIES INCLUDING CITY, THE COUNTY, ALAMO COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT, AND THE RIVER AUTHORITY. THIS TIRZ WAS CREATED TO SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT OF TEXAS A&M AND PALO ALTO COLLEGE AND THE SURROUNDING SOUTH SIDE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO THE AREA. RECENT PROJECTS HAVE INCLUDED STREETS, DRAINAGE, WATER, SEWER, AS WELL AS INFRASTRUCTURE FOR HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS. THE MISSION DRIVE IN TIRZ IS ALSO IN DISTRICT 3 AUDIO] . WORLD HERITAGE CAMPUS AS WELL AS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS TO SURROUNDING STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE. ALSO ASKED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION ON SEPTEMBER 10 WILL BE EXTENDING THIS TIRZ TO 2060 AND WILL HELP SUPPORT FUNDING FOR PROJECTS ALREADY APPROVED BY THE BOARD, INCLUDING THE DISTRICT 3 AQUATICS FACILITY AS WELL AS THE WORLD HERITAGE PAVILION.

THE MIDTOWN TIRZ INCLUDES BOTH DISTRICTS 1 AND 2 AND THE CITY IS THE ONLY PARTICIPATING ENTITY. THIS TIRZ CURRENTLY GOES THROUGH 2041 AND HAS APPROVED SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS TO CITY-OWNED FACILITIES INCLUDING THE BRACKENRIDGE PARK NATURE SCAPE, THE WITTE MUSEUM IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL AS OTHERS IN THE SURROUNDING. CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO CONSIDER EXTENDING THIS

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SO AGAIN LOTS OF ITEMS ON THAT TIRZ AND EXTENDING THE TERM THROUGH 2060 WILL HELP ALIGN IT AND CREATE THOSE FINANCING OPTIONS. THE WESTSIDE TIRZ INCLUDES BOTH DISTRICTS 1 AND 5 AND HAS ALREADY BEEN EXTENDED AND APPROVED TO GO THROUGH 2060. THE CITY IS THE ONLY PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITY.

FUNDS HAVE BEEN USED TO HELP NONPROFIT PARTNERS SUCH AS YWCA.

IT'S A WOMEN'S TRANSITION CENTER, EXPANSION FOR SAY SI AND ARTS ORGANIZATION, AS WELL AS FUNDING USED TO IMPROVE CITY-OWNED FACILITIES INCLUDING MARKET SQUARE AND THE GUADALUPE THEATER. ACTIONS ON SEPTEMBER 10 WILL BRING TO COUNCIL THE DIVERSION CENTER PILOT PROPROJECT , WHICH NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE BOARD. THIS WILL HELP ENSURE ONE-TIME OPERATIONAL FUNDING FOR A FACILITY TO ALLOW PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS OR DISABILITIES AVOID JAIL FOR LOW-LEVEL MISDEMEANORS. THIS BOARD, AT A FUTURE DATE, WILL ALSO CONSIDER FUNDING AND SUPPORT FOR THE LONE STAR DISTRICT PROJECT. THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR TIRZ INCLUDES BOTH DISTRICTS 2 AND 10 AND CURRENTLY GOES THROUGH 2034.

THE CITY IS THE ONLY PARTICIPATING ENTITY. FUNDS HAVE BEEN USED FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO MORGAN'S WONDERLAND AS WELL AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.

CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO EXTEND THIS TIRZ THROUGH 2060.

MOST IMMEDIATELY ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, COUNCIL WILL BE ASKED TO CONSIDER FUNDING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNAGE PROJECT WHICH INCLUDES 13 SIGNS ACROSS EIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS IN AND NEAR THE ZONE. THE BOARD WILL BE LOOKING TO HELP SUPPORT A LONGHORN QUARRY REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

THE HEMISFAIR TIRZ CURRENTLY GOES THROUGH 2037 AND INCLUDES DISTRICT 1.

THE CITY IS THE ONLY PARTICIPATING ENTITY AND THE FUNDING PRIMARILY GOES TO SUPPORT HPARC OPERATIONS. IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SEVERAL DEVELOPER-INITIATED TIRZ THROUGHOUT THE CITY. A DEVELOPER-INITIATED TIRZ ALLOWS THE CITY TO STIMULATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY IN AREAS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE REMAIN UNDERUTILIZED. TYPICALLY WE RECEIVE A PROPOSAL FROM A PRIVATE DEVELOPER WHO SEES POTENTIAL IN AN UNDERDEVELOPED PART OF THE CITY.

THESE AREAS OFTEN LACK BASIC INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADS, UTILITY, THEY HAVE DRAINAGE NEEDS. AND THE COST OF DEVELOPMENT CAN BE PROHIBITIVELY HIGH.

A TIRZ WILL THEN HELP MAKE THE PROJECT FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE.

THE DEVELOPER WILL SUBMIT A PLAN TO THE CITY TO OUTLINE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPOSED ZONE, THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS A REIMBURSEMENT REQUEST OVER A SPECIFIED TERM. THE DEVELOPER WILL FRONT THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND OVER TIME, AS THE PROPERTY VALUES RISE WITHIN THE ZONE, THE CITY WILL USE THAT ADDITIONAL TAX REVENUE TO REIMBURSE THE DEVELOPER. AS PART OF OUR EVALUATION PROCESS, WE ALSO CONSIDER THE COST OF PROVIDING CITY SERVICES TO THE ZONE. THAT COULD BE POLICE SERVICES, FIRE, SOLID WASTE SERVICES, MAINTENANCE. THIS ENSURES THAT THIS TIRZ IS SUSTAINABLE IN THE LONG TERM AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO DELIVER ESSENTIAL CITY SERVICES WITHOUT A STRAIN ON THE GENERAL FUND. EACH TIRZ IS GOVERNED BY A BOARD OF DIRECTORS WHICH OVERSEES IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROJECT.

THIS BOARD DOES INCLUDE ONE APPOINTEE FROM EACH PARTICIPATING TAXING ENTITY, THE DEVELOPER, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AS WELL AS APPROPRIATE STATE REPRESENTATIVES. THERE ARE CURRENTLY TEN DEVELOPER-INITIATED TIRZ ACROSS THE CITY. THE CITY IS THE PARTICIPATING ENTITY BUT THE COUNTY DOES PARTICIPATE IN FOUR OF THOSE. THESE TIRZ GO ACROSS DISTRICTS 2, 3, AND 4. AND AGAIN THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES IN MISSION DEL LAGO, LACKLAND HILLS, NORTHEAST CROSSING, AND HUNTER'S POND .

THE MOST RECENT NEW DEVELOPER-APPROVED TIRZ WAS THE ROSIO CREEK AND THAT ONE

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THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED FOR ACTION ON SEPTEMBER 10. THE MISSION DRIVE IN TIRZ RECENTLY APPROVED THE DISTRICT 3 AQUATICS FACILITY FOR $1.8 MILLION AS WELL AS $750,000 TO FUND THE WORLD HERITAGE PAVILION. THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR TIRZ RECENTLY APPROVED $1.3 MILLION FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNAGE.

AND THEN THE MIDTOWN TIRZ HAS A BOARD MEETING LATER THIS WEEK WHERE THEY WILL CONSIDER PURCHASE OF THE ITC PROPERTY FROM UTSA AS WELL AS FUNDING TO THREE DIFFERENT CITY-OWNED FACILITIES AND CULTURAL PARTNERS.

EACH OF THESE PARTNERS WILL BE RAISING THEIR OWN FUNDS AND LEVERAGING CITY FUNDS WITH A MATCH. WE WILL BE RECOMMENDING $10 MILLION TO SUPPORT THE ZOO WITH AN EXPANSION TO THE WEST SIDE OF 281 WHICH WILL INCLUDE A NEW ROUND FEATURING NATIVE SPECIES, A NEW EDUCATION BUILDING, AND AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL.

THE BOTANICAL GARDENS IS ALSO RECOMMENDED FOR $10 MILLION OF FUNDING TO SUPPORT A HORTICULTURE CAMPUS THAT INCLUDES GREENHOUSES, SHADE, AND SAFE SPACES FOR EDUCATION AND VOLUNTEERS. FINALLY, THEY WORK ON RESTORING THE SUNKEN GARDEN THEATER AS WELL AS PROVIDING OPERATIONAL FUNDS AND PROGRAMMING TO ACTIVATE THE PARK.

AND THEN THE WESTSIDE TIRZ ALSO IS CONSIDERING A DIVERSION CENTER PILOT PROGRAM TOTALING $638,000 TO SUPPORT OPERATIONS OF THAT FACILITY.

SO ALL THESE ITEMS WILL BE COMING BACK ON SEPTEMBER 10 FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

THAT CONCLUDES THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING PRESENTATION.

I ALSO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF PRESENTING A WORK SESSION, AN INFORMATION ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT. I AM THE DIRECTOR, I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE EFFORTS OF IAN BENAVIDES AND VERONICA GONZALEZ.

I'M ALSO JOINED BY SEVERAL OF OUR ADMINISTRATORS WHO OVERSEE THE DIVISIONS AND THE DIRECT PROGRAMMING AND SERVICES THAT WE OFFER THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WANT TO EXTEND MY SINCERE THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY PERSON IN THE NHSD TEAM FOR THEIR DEDICATION AND HARD WORK. TODAY'S WORK SESSION WILL INCLUDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE WORK OUR TEAM DOES EVERY DAY TO BRING HIGH QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOUSING-RELATED SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.

I WILL SHARE OUR PROPOSED BUDGET AND REDUCTIONS FOR NEXT YEAR AS WELL AS PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE SUCCESS OF THE HOUSING BOND AND OUR OTHER IMPACTFUL WORK WE ARE DELIVERING. HOUSING AFFORDABILITY WAS DEFINED AS A TOP COMMUNITY PRIORITY ALONG WITH ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS. HOUSING COSTS ARE RISING FASTER THAN INCOMES AND HALF OF RENTERS IN SAN ANTONIO ARE PAYING MORE THAN THEY CAN AFFORD ON HOUSING. UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE OF STABILITY, NHSD SERVES BOTH RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE WORKING TO MAINTAIN SAFE HOUSING AND AGE SAFELY IN PLACE. WE WORK ALONGSIDE MANY PARTNERS BUILDING AND PRESERVING HOMES, ENSURING CITY FUNDS ARE COMBINED WITH FEDERAL DOLLARS, STATE FUNDS, AS WELL AS PRIVATE DOLLARS TO REACH STRONGER IMPACT.

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THIS YEAR MARKS THE FIFTH YEAR OF WORK ON THE PLAN. OUR OVERALL GOAL OF 28,000 HOMES IS REALLY THE CUMULATION OF SEVERAL SUBGOALS.

GOAL THAT ARE FOR RENTERS AS WELL AS HOMEOWNERS, NEW PRODUCTION, AS WELL AS PRESERVATION GOALS, AND GOALS FOR VARIOUS INCOME LEVELS TO MAKE SURE WE ARE INCENTIVIZING A DIVERSE AMOUNT OF HOUSING. FIVE YEARS IN, WE'VE ALREADY ACHIEVED OR EVEN EXCEEDED SEVERAL OF THOSE SUBGOALS. BY THE END OF THE YEAR, WE EXPECT OUR OFFICIAL PROGRESS TO BE 50% OF THAT OVERALL GOAL.

BUT KNOW THAT WE HAVE ASSISTED MANY MORE HOMES THAN PLANNED IN SEVERAL OF THE AREAS. ACKNOWLEDGING WE HAVE HIGHER THAN EXPECTED POPULATION GROWTH, RISING CONSTRUCTION COSTS, SHIFTS IN OUR FEDERAL FUNDING PRIORITIES AND HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THAT FUNDING, AS WELL AS ACKNOWLEDGING SEVERAL RECENT LOCAL PLANNING EFFORTS INCLUDING THE SPECIAL HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THOSE. WE AGREE THAT IT IS TIME TO REFRESH THOSE SHIP GOALS.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS SINCE OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR ON THIS EFFORT. ON AUGUST 20 WE BRIEFED OUR HOUSING COMMISSION ON DRAFT RECOMMENDED UPDATED HOUSING GOALS ACROSS DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS AND IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED. WE PLAN TO COME TO PCDC, PLANNING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE LATER THIS MONTH WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND THEN BRING IT TO FULL CITY COUNCIL FOR ADOPTION IN OCTOBER.

THIS WILL HELP ENSURE OUR TARGETS REMAIN ACHIEVABLE AND RESPONSIVE TO THE NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE MAKING STRONG PROGRESS AND THIS IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE DEDICATED TEAMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT INCLUDING HOUSING POLICY WHERE OUR TEAM LEADS OUR PLANNING AND POLICY DEVELOPMENT WITH A FOCUS ON MAKING SURE WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THOSE SHIP STRATEGIES AND JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, ENSURING WE'RE COMMUNICATING THOSE UPDATES.

HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT TODAY WE HAVE AN UPDATED SHIP DASHBOARD THAT INCLUDES SEVERAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE REQUESTED. SO THE COMMUNITY CAN BETTER SEE WHERE WE ARE IN PROGRESS AND HOW WE ARE FUNDING THOSE HOMES AND WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED. OUR HOUSING STABILITY TEAM KEEPS OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS 234 IN THEIR HOMES AND HELPING HOMEOWNERS AVOID FORECLOSURE.

OUR HOUSING PRESERVATION HELPS HOMEOWNERS STAY IN THEIR CURRENT HOMES WITH OUR REHAB PROGRAMS. OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM SPURS NEW AFFORDABLE HOMES TO MEET THE DEMAND OF AFFORDABILITY RESPONSIBILITIES AND OF COURSE WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING OUR $150 MILLION AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND. AND FINALLY, OUR ENTIRE DEPARTMENT FOCUSES ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH EFFORTS.

WE ARE AT NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS, COMMUNITY CENTERS, APARTMENT COMMUNITY CENTERS, AND WE'RE VISIBLE NEARLY EVERY SINGLE DAY MEETING PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE TO ENSURE PEOPLE HAVE THE HELP THEY NEED AND OUR EFFORTS REMAIN RESPONSIVE.

EVERY ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS IS DELIVERED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. TOGETHER WE ARE ALL COLLABORATIVE BUT REALLY FOCUSED ON RESULTS AND HOW WE CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON SAN ANTONIO.

WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2027, IT'S A TOTAL OF $77.8 MILLION.

THIS INCLUDES $37.7 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS. AN ADDITIONAL $29.4 MILLION TO FURTHER IMPLEMENT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND.

AND THE REMAINING $10.7 MILLION IN FUNDS ARE NEEDED TO DELIVER OUR ESSENTIAL PROGRAMS AND SERVICES. THIS INCLUDES OUR SOCIAL SERVICES SUCH AS OUR STAFF NEEDED TO PROCESS RENTAL ASSISTANCE, OUR HOUSING COUNSELORS AND OUR EVICTION TEAM, AS WELL AS OUR ENGAGEMENT -- COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EFFORTS, TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE PROGRAMS, AS THE ADMINISTRATION AND PROGRAM SUPPORT.

FOR NEXT YEAR WE ARE PROPOSING $4.3 MILLION IN TRANSFERS AND REDUCTIONS ALL AMOUNTING TO A SAVINGS TO THE GENERAL FUND. THIS INCLUDES $70,000 TO RIGHT-SIZE OUR LINE ITEMS TO REFLECT ACTUAL SPENDING ACROSS TRAVEL AND EDUCATION.

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THIS IS NOT COMING THROUGH NEW FEES OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON UTILIZING FUND BALANCES THAT WE HAVE ACROSS PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE AS A RESULT OF PREVIOUS HOUSING INVESTMENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO TRANSFER $2 MILLION THAT WAS FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR MINOR REPAIR AND INSTEAD USE FUNDS AVAILABLE IN THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND. IN ADDITION, WE PLAN TO UTILIZE THE FUND BALANCE OF $1.5 MILLION THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND TO HELP INCENTIVIZE MORE HOUSING PROJECTS AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEXT YEAR. AND FINALLY, WE PROPOSE TO UTILIZE $500,000 FROM OUR TIF FUND TO CITY OUR CITY FEE WAIVER PROGRAM AND KEEP THAT AT $1 MILLION.

LASTLY, WE ARE RECOMMENDING $210,000 REDUCTION TO OUR PROPERTY TAX HELP WORKSHOPS.

THIS CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED IN 2023 TO PROVIDE FREE RESOURCES TO HOMEOWNERS ON PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS AND PROTESTS. WE GENERATE APPROXIMATELY 400 NEW PROTESTS EACH YEAR AS A RESULT OF OUR EFFORTS. AND ACROSS THE CAMPAIGN WE'VE HAD OVER 670 PEOPLE FILE NEW EXEMPTIONS OF VARIOUS KINDS.

MOST OF THOSE BEING HOMEOWNER EXEMPTIONS. THE CAMPAIGN HOSTS ONE IN-PERSON WORKSHOP IN EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT AS WELL AS TWO VIRTUAL EVENTS.

WE DO PROVIDE YEAR-ROUND ACCESS TO HAVE ONLINE MATERIALS SO HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO PROTEST THEIR PROPERTY TAXES.

WE HAVE BEEN -- NEXT YEAR WE ARE PROPOSING TO DISCONTINUE THE IN-PERSON TAX HELP WORKSHOPS AND TRANSITION FULLY TO OUR ONLINE RESOURCES.

OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, WE HAVE DEVELOPED A COMPREHENSIVE SET OF SELF-HELP TOOLS INCLUDING INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEOS. WE HAVE RECORDED THE PROPERTY TAX WORKSHOP SO IT'S AVAILABLE ANY TIME. AND WE HAVE A DEDICATED WEBSITE WITH DETAILED TAX INFORMATION AND ALL THE FORMS YOU NEED TO FILE EXEMPTIONS OR FILE A PROTEST. WITH THIS PROPOSED REDUCTION, WE RECOMMEND UTILIZING $40,000 TO REMAIN IN THE BUDGET, WHICH WOULD HELP US ENSURE WE HAVE CONTINUED OUTREACH AND PROMOTING THESE ONLINE RESOURCES SO HOMEOWNERS CAN STILL GET THE SERVICES AND THE HELP THAT THEY NEED.

SOME OF THE MOST CRITICAL PROGRAMS WE DELIVER ARE THROUGH OUR HOUSING ACCESS AND STABILITY TEAM, WHICH SUPPORTS BOTH RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS.

OUR HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS REALLY KEY TO HOMELESS PREVENTION IN SAN ANTONIO. OUR 2027 BUDGET INCLUDES $6.2 MILLION TO ASSIST OVER 2600 FAMILIES WITH RENT AND RELOCATION. WE CAN HELP FAMILIES WITH UP TO THREE MONTHS WITH RENT AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE AND HELP COVER COSTS TO RELOCATE TO NEW HOUSING. THIS YEAR WE ARE INTRODUCING $500,000 FOR A VOUCHER-INCENTIVE PILOT PROGRAM. THIS WILL HELP ENCOURAGE LANDLORDS TO ACCEPT HOUSING VOUCHERS WHICH ARE REALLY ANOTHER FORM OF LONG-TERM RENTAL ASSISTANCE. THIS WILL BE OFFERED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OPPORTUNITY HOME AND HELP SUPPORT UP TO 800 HOUSEHOLDS. OUR RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND RELOCATION PROGRAMS DO GET A LOT OF ATTENTION. IT'S MUCH NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY BUT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE WORK WE DO TO HELP FAMILIES PREVENT EVICTION. EVICTION TRENDS CONTINUE TO RISE AND NHSD STAFF ARE ON SITE AT EVERY SINGLE BEXAR COUNTY PRECINCT COURT PROVIDING IN-PERSON SUPPORT DURING 18,000 EVICTION HEARINGS A YEAR. NEXT YEAR WE ARE MAINTAINING OUR $100,000 BUDGET TO SUPPORT 330 HOUSEHOLDS THROUGH LEGAL AID REFERRALS.

I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT A RECENT CASE THAT REALLY SHOWS THE IMPACT OF OUR EVICTION PREVENTION EFFORTS. MR. JAY CONTACTED US AFTER RECEIVING A NOTICE TO VACATE DUE TO HIS LANDLORD CLAIMING HE OWED TWO MONTHS OF RENT. HE REACHED OUT TO OUR FAIR HOUSING TEAM. WE REVIEWED HIS DOCUMENTATION AND CONFIRMED HE HAD IN FACT PAID HIS RENT. WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, SHARED ALL THE DOCUMENTATION, AND THEY ACKNOWLEDGED THEIR OVERSIGHT, REFUNDED ALL OF HIS FEES THAT HE WAS CHARGED, LATE FEES AND NOT SUFFICIENT FUND FEES. AND EVENTUALLY RESCINDED THE EVICTION NOTICE.

WITHOUT DIRECT SUPPORT, MR. JAY COULD HAVE FACED AN UNWARRANTED EVICTION.

IN ADDITION TO STABILIZING RENTERS, WE CONTINUE TO INVEST IN HELPING PEOPLE BECOME NEW HOMEOWNERS. AND NEXT YEAR OUR BUDGET CONTINUES TO INCLUDE $1.5 MILLION TO SUPPORT 68 FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS WITH DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AND CLOSING COSTS. OUR HOME PRESERVATION WORK INCLUDES BOTH DIRECT CONSTRUCTION INVESTMENT THROUGH OUR REHAB PROGRAMS AS WELL AS BROADER SUPPORT

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OUR MAJOR REHAB PROGRAM NEXT YEAR CONTINUES TO INCLUDE $7.7 MILLION TO HELP 42 HOMEOWNERS WITH MAJOR REHAB. WE DO EVERYTHING FROM IMPROVE MAJOR HOME SYSTEMS TO FULL RECONSTRUCTION FOR HOMES THAT ARE FACING NEAR DEMOLITION.

THIS HELPS PRESERVE LEGACY HOMEOWNERS TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES IN THE LONG TERM. WE ALSO HAVE $8 MILLION TO SUPPORT OUR MINOR REPAIR PROGRAM, WHICH WILL BENEFIT OVER 450 HOMEOWNERS. TOGETHER, NONPROFITS HELP US LEVERAGE OUR CITY FUNDING TO EXPAND OUR OVERALL IMPACT. AND WE HELP HOMEOWNERS AGE IN PLACE WITH THINGS LIKE TUB TO SHOWER CONVERSIONS OR HELP FAMILIES LOWER THEIR ENERGY BILLS WITH COOL ROOFS. WE ALSO HAVE THE GOOD NEIGHBOR GRANT, WHICH ADDRESSES MINOR EXTERIOR REPAIRS THAT ENHANCE SAFETY.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN D2 WE HAD A HOMEOWNER WHO SPENT THE LAST YEAR IN AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY FOLLOWING AN INJURY THAT LEFT HER WHEELCHAIR BOUND.

THE FACILITY WOULD NOT DISCHARGE HER UNTIL THEY HAD CONFIRMATION THAT SHE HAD A SAFE ENTRANCE TO HER HOME, WHICH MEANT AN ADA RAMP. THROUGH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM WE WERE ABLE TO CONSTRUCT THE RAMP AND SHE WAS ABLE TO BE DISCHARGED AND GO HOME TO HER HUSBAND. BEYOND CONSTRUCTION, WE PROVIDE SERVICES THAT ENSURE HOMEOWNERS CAN PARTICIPATE IN THESE PROGRAMS. THIS INCLUDES THIRD-PARTY LEGAL SERVICES, WHICH HELP FAMILIES RESOLVE OWNERSHIP ISSUES, WHICH COULD MAKE THEM OTHERWISE INELIGIBLE FOR MAJOR REHAB. WE ALSO HAVE LEGAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP FAMILIES REALLY UNDERSTAND THE LEGAL DOCUMENTS THEY'RE BEING ASKED TO SIGN AS WELL AS THE TERMS OF THEIR FORGIVABLE LOAN PROGRAM.

IN ADDITION, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE A HOME IS REHABBED, THOSE HOMEOWNERS KNOW HOW TO FULLY CARE FOR THEIR HOME IN THE LONG TERM AND EVERY YEAR WE HELP OVER 120 HOMEOWNERS THROUGH OUR HOME MAINTENANCE CLASSES. AFFORDABLE HOUSING REMAINS A CHALLENGE THAT THE MARKET ALONE CANNOT MEET. DEMAND CONTINUES TO GROW AND SUSTAINED PUBLIC INVESTMENT IS ESSENTIAL TO KEEPING PEOPLE SAFELY HOUSED.

CONSTRUCTION COSTS HAVE INCREASED SHARPLY MAKING IT MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD ANY KIND OF NEW HOUSING. INTEREST RATES HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED SINCE 2021 WHICH DRIVES UP THE COST OF THE CONSTRUCTION DEBT AND WIDENS FINANCING GAPS EVEN FURTHER. PROJECTS THAT PREVIOUSLY RELIED SOLELY ON STATE TAX CREDITS NOW REQUIRE ADDITIONAL SUBSIDIES TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND WHAT WE LOOK FOR IS SERVING THE LOWEST-INCOME HOUSEHOLD AND THAT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT. DEVELOPMENTS WITH DEEPER AFFORDABILITY TARGETS NEED EVEN MORE SUBSIDY TO OFFER RENTERS AND HOME PRICES THAT FAMILIES CAN REASONABLY AFFORD. AS THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING GROWS, THE CITY AND OUR SHIP PARTNERS CONTINUE TO FIND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO PRESERVE EXISTING HOMES AND SUPPORT NEW CONSTRUCTION. THIS YEAR WE ARE PROPOSING $12.7 MILLION IN GAP FUNDING WHICH COMBINES BOTH OUR FEDERAL HUD GRANTS AND UTILIZES $5 MILLION OF HOUSING BOND INTEREST THAT HAS BEEN REPROGRAMMED.

IN ADDITION, WE CONTINUE TO OFFER $1 MILLION IN CITY FEE WAIVERS FOR PRIORITY PROJECTS. BY SUBSTITUTING SOME GENERAL FUND DOLLARS WITH THE TIF FUND, WE ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THESE INCENTIVES AT A MILLION DOLLARS, WHICH HELPS NOT JUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT ALSO HISTORIC PROJECTS, SMALL BUSINESS, AS WELL AS ATTRACTING TARGETED INDUSTRY. ADDITIONALLY, THE INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND WILL KEEP DRIVING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING ALIGNED WITH OUR GOALS AT NO ADDITIONAL INCREASE TO THE GENERAL FUND.

IN FY 2027, THIS FUND WILL ALSO SUPPORT A NEW PILOT PROGRAM FOCUSED ON MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING WHERE WE SET ASIDE $500,000 FROM THAT FUND.

THESE SMALL-SCALE MULTI-UNIT HOMES LIKE DUPLEXES OR FOURPLEXES BRING MODERATELY PRICED OPTIONS TO EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS AND HELP FILL THE GAP BETWEEN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND LARGE MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS.

IN MAY OF 2022, VOTERS APPROVED THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND DEDICATING $150 MILLION TO CREATE AND PRESERVE HOUSING FOR RENTERS AND HOMEOWNERS NEAR JOBS, TRANSIT, SCHOOLS, AND SERVICES. TO DATE, THE BOND HAS FUNDED OVER 5200 HOMES WITH 94% OF OUR FUNDS COMMITTED. OVER 3900 OF THOSE HOMES ARE EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED BY THE END OF 2027. APPROXIMATELY 20% OF THOSE UNITS ARE FOR SENIORS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME UP A LOT WHERE ARE THE HOMES FOR SENIORS IN THE COMMUNITY? WELL, THE HOUSING BOND HAS HELPED FUND OVER 1,000 HOMES SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS POPULATION.

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WE ALSO -- AS WE LOOK AT THE NEW RENTAL HOMES WE ARE CREATING, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT AS THESE HOMES COME ONLINE, OUR CITY INCENTIVIZED DEVELOPMENTS HAVE AN OCCUPANCY RATE OF OVER 93%. THIS COMPARISON TO CITYWIDE OCCUPANCY RATES OF ABOUT 85% FOR OTHER TYPES OF APARTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO IT MEANS WE ARE NOT JUST BUILDING HOUSING WITH THE BOND, WE ARE BUILDING THE TYPES OF HOMES THAT RESIDENTS NEED AND CAN AFFORD TO LIVE IN.

THE HOUSING BOND COMMUNITIES WE'RE SUPPORTING ALSO CONTINUE TO OFFER SERVICES WITH THE HELP OF OVER 25 NONPROFIT PARTNERS. THESE HOUSING COMMUNITIES HAVE JOB TRAINING PROGRAMS, FOOD PANTRIES, AFTER SCHOOL CARE, AND ALL OF THE SERVICES FAMILIES NEED TO STAY HOUSED IN THE LONG TERM.

THESE INVESTMENTS ARE PART OF A LARGER COMMUNITY EFFORTS.

FOR EVERY ONE DOLLAR IN HOUSING BOND FUNDS, AN ADDITIONAL $7 IN PRIVATE FUNDS ARE INVESTED IN SAN ANTONIO MULTIPLYING OUR IMPACT .

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, MITIGATING HOUSING INSTABILITY AND PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS IS A CORE PART OF OUR WORK. INCREASING OUR COMMUNITY'S HOUSING SUPPLY HELPS PREVENT HOMELESSNESS BY EXPANDING SAFE, STABLE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO CALL HOME IN OUR GROWING CITY. WE WORK DIRECTLY WITH PEOPLE IN CRISIS EVERY DAY AND BY WORKING COLLABORATIVELY, WE SEE WHAT IS POSSIBLE WHEN CITY RESOURCES ARE LEVERAGED WITH OUR PARTNERS, NONPROFITS, AND PRIVATE, BOTH. TOGETHER WE ARE SHOWING THAT TARGET INVESTMENT AND COMMITMENT CAN CHANGE LIVES. SAN ANTONIO IS BUILDING NOT JUST MORE HOUSING BUT THE RIGHT KIND OF HOUSING IN THE RIGHT PLACES FOR PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST.

AND NOW I WILL TURN THE MIC OVER TO MARK CARMONA TO GO OVER THE HOMELESS SERVICES

DEPARTMENT BUDGET. >> GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MARK CARMONA. I'M THE CITY'S CHIEF HOUSING OFFICER AND DIRECTOR OF THE HOMELESS SERVICES AND STRATEGY DEPARTMENT. I'M HERE PRESENTING OUR FY FY27 PROPOSED BUDGET. I WANT TO THANK OUR TEAM TO ENSURE THAT HOMELESS IS BRIEF AND NONREOCCURRING. I WILL BE PRESENTING AN OVERVIEW AND STRATEGIC FOCUS, OUR FY27 PROPOSED BUDGET, AN UPDATE ON THE SHELTER AND HOUSING FRAMEWORK, AND THE PARTNERSHIPS WE ARE DEVELOPING TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS AS A COMMUNITY. AND WE'LL LOOK AT A SYSTEM-WIDE HOMELESS SHELTER CAPACITY WITH THE END OF THE LOW-BARRIER SHELTER FUNDING COMING FROM THE CITY.

FINALLY, SEVERAL INITIATIVES WE ARE TAKING IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

OUR DEPARTMENT WAS LAUNCHED OCTOBER 1, 2025 WITH THE MISSION OF ENSURING THAT HOMELESSNESS IS RARE, BRIEF, AND NONREOCCURRING IN SAN ANTONIO.

THIS IS THE GUIDING STAR IN EVERYTHING WE DO. WE PROVIDE DIRECT SERVICES TO PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OR AT RISK. OUR TEAM HAS ENGAGED WITH OVER A THOUSAND PEOPLE THIS YEAR, PROVIDING HOUSING-FOCUSED ENGAGEMENT TO UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS TO CONNECT THEM WITH SHELTER AND HOUSING.

OUR ENCAMPMENT RESPONSE TEAM COORDINATES ENCAMPMENT REMOVAL PROCESS OF NEARLY 1400 SITE ABATEMENTS THROUGH AN INNER AGENCY PROCESS. THE HOTLINE SERVES AS THE FRONT DOOR TO THE RESPONSE SYSTEM. WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE HOMELESS VETERAN PROVIDER COORDINATION AND DIRECT CASE MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS SPECIALIZED CASE MANAGEMENT FOR YOUNG ADULTS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

ON THE STRATEGIC FRONT, OUR DEPARTMENT PRESENTED TO COUNCIL IN MAY THE SHELTER AND HOUSING FRAMEWORK, WHICH WE THINK IS A BALANCE OF COORDINATED ASSESSMENT OF THE NEEDS OF THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, WHICH I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT IN A MOMENT.

WE FUND DELEGATE AGENCIES AND OUR FUNDING APPROACH IS COMING INTO ALIGNMENT WITH THE FRAMEWORK. WE ENGAGE WITH PARTNERS OUTSIDE THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM TO INCLUDE LAW ENFORCEMENT, FAITH COMMUNITIES, HEALTHCARE, AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES INTERACTING WITH HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

AND FINALLY, WE ANALYZE POLICY AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL AND WORK WITH GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AND LOCAL PARTNERS ON LEGISLATION THAT SUPPORTS OUR LOCAL FRAMEWORK AND THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. OUR BUDGET FOR FY27 -- OUR PROPOSED BUDGET IS $29.3 MILLION. THE GENERAL FUND OF $5.1 MILLION COVERS OUR HHSD TEAM WHICH INCLUDES OUTREACH, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS HOTLINE, AND ADMINISTRATION. WE ADMINISTER $8 MILLION IN DELEGATE AGENCY FUNDING TO PARTNERS LIKE HAVEN FOR HOPE AND PARTNERS ON THAT CAMPUS.

REMAINING AMOUNTS GO TO CORAZON FOR DAY CENTER AND OUTREACH, CAM FOR SHOWERS,

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WE WANTED TO PUT THIS BACK IN FRONT OF YOU ALL. AS IDENTIFIED AND DISCUSSED IN THE MAY PRESENTATION, WE HELD TWO SYSTEM STAKEHOLDER SESSIONS TO IDENTIFY INTERSECTION POINTS BETWEEN OUR HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM AND THE CONNECTED SYSTEM PARTNERS TO ALIGN COLLECTED EFFORTS TOWARDS MEANINGFUL REDUCTIONS IN HOMELESSNESS.

WE HAD 68 PARTNERS SUCH AS WORKFORCE, CRIMINAL JUSTICE, HEALTHCARE, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, COUNTY GOVERNMENT, FAITH-BASED COMMUNITIES, AND OTHERS PARTICIPATE.

COMMON THEMES MENTIONED, ONE PRIMARILY WAS FROM THE PARTICIPANTS THAT WERE THERE DURING THE TWO WORK SESSIONS. THE GAP REALLY ISN'T -- IT'S AROUND COORDINATION, NOT INVENTION. OUR EXISTING EFFORTS SHOULD FUNCTION AS A SYSTEM AND NOT IN SILOS. 98% OF THE PEOPLE THERE REPORTED A WILLINGNESS TO CONTINUE THIS EFFORT. SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS IDENTIFIED WERE DEVELOPING A SHARED CLIENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM FOR CONTINUITY OF CASE MANAGEMENT. DEVELOPING A SHARED DATA ALIGNMENT STRATEGY.

EXPLORING A STRATEGIC FUNDERS ALLIANCE THAT WOULD LOOK AT STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS INTO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. AND THEN CONTINUING STRENGTHENING OUR COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS HOTLINE AS AN ENTRY POINT INTO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM. SOME OF THE INITIATIVES WE WANTED TO POINT OUT FOR FY27. AS INDICATED IN THE FRAMEWORK PRESENTATION IN MAY, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS A PRIORITY CLIENT NEED ACROSS OUR FRAMEWORK AREAS.

SOME OF THE WORK WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THAT SPACE IS THE EXPANSION AND INTEGRATION WITH OUR PROGRAM FOR INTENSIVE CARE COORDINATION OR PIC.

PIC IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE CENTER FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES, PD, FIRE DEPARTMENT. IT'S COORDINATED BY STRAC TO PROVIDE FOLLOW-UP CARE FOR INDIVIDUALS WITH SIX OR MORE EMERGENCY DETENTIONS WITHIN THE YEAR.

STRAC RECEIVED A GRANT FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO PROVIDE $750,000 OVER THREE YEARS TO EXPAND PIC'S MODEL TO SERVE HOMELESS UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS WITH AN OPIOID USE DISORDER. OUR STAFF AND THE CENTRO'S DOWNTOWN TEAMS WILL MAKE REFERRALS TO THIS TEAM. WE THINK THIS INITIATIVE IS AN EXAMPLE OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM AND THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM WORKING TO BETTER INTEGRATE SERVICES. RECENTLY OUR TEAM SUBMITTED A GRANT TO THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES ADMINISTRATION THROUGH HHS.

WE ARE CALLING IT THE SAN ANTONIO HEAL INITIATIVE. THIS WOULD HELP PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS WITH UNTREATED BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS TO CONNECT TO OUTREACH, TREATMENT, RECOVERY SUPPORTS, AND HOUSING TO PROMOTE STABILITY AND REDUCE RELIANCE ON CRISIS RESPONSE TEAMS. THIS WOULD BE A FOUR-YEAR GRANT AT $12 MILLION, $3 MILLION ANNUALLY. OUR SOCIAL WOR WORK OUTREACH ALIGNMENT. WE WANT TO INCORPORATE THEIR CLINICAL EXPERIENCE INTO THE ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PILOT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN A MOMENT.

WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF A DAY WORK PROGRAM IN FY27. WE'RE MEETING THIS WEEK WITH GOODWILL MINISTRIES. MOST ARE OPERATED BY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND CHURCHES. THERE'S A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES WHERE THERE'S CITIES.

WE THINK THE NONPROFITS AND CHURCHES MAKE THE MOST SENSE AND WE'LL START WORK ON THIS TO SEE WHAT WORK LOOKS LIKE FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE STREET FOR A WHILE AND THE CONFIDENCE IT CAN BUILD. WE CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH THE JAIL DIVERSION CENTER. WE THINK A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WE SERVE WOULD UTILIZE THE DIVERSION CENTER. WE THINK IT WILL BECOME AN INTERSECTION POINT FOR US IN OUR FUTURE WORK, ESPECIALLY AS IT RELATES TO FOLLOW-UP CARE.

WE ARE PROPOSING AN ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PILOT.

THE PILOT WILL IMPLEMENT A COORDINATED, TRAUMA INFORMED MODEL.

IT WILL BUILD UPON THE CITY'S ENCAMPMENT RESPONSE AND ABATEMENT PROCESS BY CONCENTRATING OUTREACH, CASE MANAGEMENT, AND OTHER RESOURCES AT SELECTED LOCATIONS. THE PILOT WILL START IN ENCAMPMENTS WITH A SMALL

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WE WANT TO REDUCE REPEATED ABATEMENTS. WE ARE SEEING THIS OVER AND OVER. WE WANT TO REFINE OUR PROCESS GOING FORWARD AS WE ASSESS PRIORITIZATION AND CHANGES FOR HOUSING RESOURCES.

THE PROCESS THAT WE'LL UTILIZE IS WE'LL CONTINUE THE ABATEMENTS AT ALL OTHER SITES. THEY WILL NOT STOP AS WE BEGIN THIS PILOT.

BUT PILOT SITES WE WILL COMMUNICATE WITH NEIGHBORHOODS, COUNCIL OFFICES, AND CLIENTS. BECAUSE ABATEMENTS WILL CEASE IN THAT PARTICULAR PILOT SITE WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS ENGAGEMENT. THERE WILL BE DAILY OUTREACH WITH SOCIAL WORK FOCUS FOR FOUR TO SIX WEEKS. AND THEN ONCE WE IDENTIFY WHAT PEOPLE'S REAL NEEDS ARE, WE'LL SURGE WITH AVAILABLE RESOURCES AND PLACE IDENTIFIED CLIENTS. THEN WE WOULD CONDUCT THE ABATEMENT AND WORK WITH PD ON THE ENFORCEMENT OF THE ENCAMPMENT CLOSURE. IN FY26, THE CITY FUNDED THE LEASE OF A LOW BARRIER NON-CONGREGANT SHELTER THAT ENDS THIS MONTH THAT PROVIDE CAPACITY FOR 185 BEDS. OUR ANALYSIS SHOWS REMAINING SYSTEM CAPACITY ACROSS 11 PROVIDERS IS JUST UNDER 2500 BEDS. $9 MILLION IN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET WOULD BE UTILIZED FOR HOUSING BOND FUNDING TO SUPPORT CAPITAL DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY SHELTER SPACE. WE ANTICIPATE THAT FUNDS WOULD BE AWARDED THROUGH RFP IN THE FALL OF '27. WE THINK THIS CREATES A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT IN SHELTER BED CAPACITY. WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, 145 NEW SHELTER BEDS ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT PIPELINE FOR 2027.

SAMMINISTRIES FORMAL AWARD FOR NON-CONGREGANT SHELTER CAPITAL IS PENDING FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. THEY ARE PLANNING FOR APPROXIMATELY 80 BEDS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE BY AUGUST OF 2027.

THE SALVATION ARMY IS BUILDING OUT ADDITIONAL CAPACITY WITH 65 BEDS THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE THIS SPRING WITH CONSOLIDATION TO THEIR ELMIRA CAMPUS THAT WOULD ADD 25 BEDS FOR MEN, 20 BEDS FOR WOMEN, AND 20 BEDS FOR FAMILIES.

IN THE INTERIM, WHILE THIS IS HAPPENING, WE ARE PROPOSING AN INTERIM PLAN THAT WOULD REPURPOSE $200,000 FOR MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT THAT'S IN OUR GENERAL FUND AND UTILIZE UP TO $100,000 SAVINGS FROM THE SHELTER LEASE THAT WAS IDENTIFIED. MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT IS A TREATMENT FOR ADDICTION THAT COMBINES BEHAVIORAL THERAPY WITH MEDICATIONS SUCH AS METHADONE FOR OPIOID TREATMENT.

FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT HAS GROWN ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY RECEIVED OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS TO CONTINUE TREATMENT FOR UNSHELTERED CLIENTS, $150,000 IS ALLOCATED FROM SETTLEMENT FUNDS FOR THIS PURPOSE.

HENCE, WE ARE PROPOSING THE REPURPOSING OF THOSE FUNDS AND THE SAVINGS FROM THE SHELTER SO THAT WE COULD PARTNER WITH SHELTER PROVIDERS TO ADD CAPACITY OF APPROXIMATELY 40 BEDS WHILE THE THAT IS MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR JONES: OKAY. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER VIAGRAN.

THANK YOU TO THE STAFF FOR THE HELPFUL PRESENTATION. >> VIAGRAN: THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATIONS AND ALL YOUR TIME IN DOING THIS.

I JUST WANT TO GO AND SAY THAT THIS IS -- YEAR AFTER YEAR I'VE DONE BUDGETS AND AS A CITY EMPLOYEE, I WATCHED BUDGET SESSIONS. THIS IS ONE WE HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED BEFORE. SO BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE WORKING FROM A DEFICIT. AND THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN OF THESE FEW WORKSHOP SESSIONS THAT HAVE COME UP WITH IDEAS AND AMENDMENTS AND MOVING THINGS AROUND. I AM NOT GOING TO COME OUT WITH A BUNCH OF AMENDMENTS. CURRENTLY I DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME, BUT I DO WANT TO REITERATE MY COMMITMENT THAT I BELIEVE IN CHOICE -- I GUESS THERE WAS A CHOICE -- THERE WAS THE CITY MANAGER TEAM'S PRESENTATION, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS WELL

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BUT I KNOW THAT'S NOT AN APPETITE FOR SOME OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY MANAGER AND JUSTINA AND THE FINANCE TEAM, WHO I WORK WITH ALL THE TIME, AND I HAVE THESE PAST FEW YEARS IN TERMS OF GOING WITH THE BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED. WITH THAT SAID, I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WAS PRESENTED TODAY. BECAUSE I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU KUDOS AND I DO WANT TO SEE WHERE WE CAN HELP EACH OTHER AS WE LOOK THROUGH THESE CUTS AND ADJUSTMENTS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO WHEN IT COMES TO THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE OR TIRZ, WHETHER CITY INITIATED OR DEVELOPER, THEY ARE ONE OF THE TOOLS AVAILABLE TO A CITY TO RESPONSIBLY FACILITATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ADDRESS INFRASTRUCTURE DEFICIENCIES, AND POSITION UNDERPERFORMING AREAS FOR LONG-TERM GROWTH. AS YOU SAW FROM THE PRESENTATION -- IF YOU COULD PULL UP THE SLIDES WITH ALL THE TIRZ THAT HAVE BEEN THERE.

AND THE CITY-INITIATED TIRZ. I THINK I HAVE PROBABLY EIGHT OR HAVE HAD ABOUT EIGHT IN DISTRICT 3 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. AS YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 3 CONTINUES TO GROW. WE CONTINUE TO GET INVESTMENT WITH CITY INCENTIVES AND WITHOUT. BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, IM IS COMING INTO THE BROOKS AREA.

THEY WORK. WHEN WE INVEST -- AND THIS IS ABOUT INVESTMENT .

WHEN WE INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR PEOPLE, IN OUR LEADERSHIP, WE SEE RETURNS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN DISTRICT 3 AND THAT'S WHAT TIRZ HAS DONE. IF WE LOOK AT THE INNER CITY TIRZ, IF WE LOOK AT THE MIDTOWN TIRZ, AS WE LOOK AT THE WESTSIDE TIRZ GROWING, WE WILL SEE THAT THE INVESTMENT WE PUT IN WILL RETURN AND GIVE US MORE RETURN FOR THE DOLLAR WE PUT IN. BECAUSE THEY ARE CITY DOLLARS AND THEN THERE'S THE DOLLARS OF THE TIRZ. AND OUR CITY DOLLAR GOES FURTHER WHEN WE USE TIRZ.

A WELL-STRUCTURED TIRZ IS NOT SIMPLY ABOUT ASSISTING A DEVELOPER OR FINANCING A PARTICULAR PROJECT, IT IS ABOUT CREATING AN ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH PRIVATE INVESTMENT CAN OCCUR. PROPERTY VALUES CAN INCREASE.

BUSINESS CAN LOCATE AND EXPAND JOBS CAN BE GREATER. AND THE CITY'S FUTURE TAX BASE CAN BECOME STRONGER. ONE OF THE REASONS WE NEEDED --A STARTED ALL THOSE PROPERTY TAX WORKSHOPS -- IS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 3 SAW THEIR PROPERTY TAXES INCREASING AND HADN'T BOTHERED FOR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS.

AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD AN INVESTMENT IN THE TIRZ AND WE BEGAN TO INVEST IN OUR PROPERTY, WHICH MEANT AN INVESTMENT IN OUR PEOPLE AND IN WHAT THEY HAD.

THE CITY DOES NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE LUXURY WAITING FOR THE PRIVATE MARKET TO SOLVE EVERY INFRASTRUCTURE OR EVERY REDEVELOPMENT CHALLENGE.

IT TAKES A PARTNERSHIP AND A WORK, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS LIKE MINE.

THERE ARE AREAS WITH TREMENDOUS POTENTIAL THAT REMAIN UNDERUTILIZED BECAUSE OF OUTDATED INFRASTRUCTURE, INADEQUATE UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION LIMITATIONS, DRAINAGE ISSUES, AND SOIL ISSUES THAT LEAD TO THE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES AND THE HIGH COST OF PREPARING A SITE FOR PRODUCTIVE USE.

FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, THE QUESTION SHOULD ALWAYS BE WHAT PUBLIC BENEFIT IS BEING CREATED? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITHOUT THE INCENTIVE? AND WHAT IS OUR ANTICIPATED RETURN? FOR DECADES, THE SOUTH SIDE, THE SOUTH, THE EAST, AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE CITY -- THAT'S SOUTH OF THE BORDER -- SAW WHAT HAPPENED. WE SAW PEOPLE LACK INFRASTRUCTURE, LACK JOBS WITH MOBILITY. WE SAW HOMES -- 100-YEAR-OLD HOMES JUST KEEP ON GETTING OLDER AND OLDER AND THE ALLOWANCE THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD INTO THEIR HOMES WASN'T THERE. THINGS BEGAN TO CHANGE. WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT THIS ECONOMY THROUGH AN EQUITY LENS. WE BEGAN TO USE WHAT THE STATE HAD OFFERED US TO DO THIS AND THAT INCLUDES TIRZ. WE SHOULD LOOK AT OUR TIRZ AS AN OPPORTUNITY, AS AN AVAILABILITY, AS AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ABATEMENTS BECAUSE WE HAVE A REINVESTMENT ZONE.

I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN THROUGH THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU GAVE US IS THAT THIS WORKS NOT JUST FOR THE CITY BUT IT WORKS FOR THE RESIDENTS.

BECAUSE THERE ARE THINGS THAT ONE BUDGET ALONE CANNOT HANDLE.

AND I KNOW THAT BECAUSE LOOK AT MILITARY DRIVE AND SIDNEY BROOKS WAY.

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SO THEY CAN HOLD ON TO THEIR CARRY FORWARD TO DO THAT OR WE CAN GO OUT AND LOOK FOR HELP FROM THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO MAKE THESE THINGS DONE.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION ON THE TIRZ. ANY TALK ABOUT MOVING MONEY AWAY FROM THE TIRZ TO THE GENERAL FUND IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE BENEFICIAL FOR COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE LONG BEEN IGNORED. SO I THINK WE NEED TO STICK WITH WHAT THE CITY MANAGER AND THE FINANCE TEAM HAVE PUT FORWARD IN THAT FIRST BUDGET PROPOSAL AND WE CAN MAKE TWEAKS WITH THAT. BUT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR CARRY FORWARD. AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT A PLAN.

VERONICA, THE ONE THING IN THE PRESENTATION WITH NHSD AND WHAT WE'VE DONE THERE IS IT INDICATES THE SUCCESS WE HAVE WHEN WE HAVE A PLAN. AND WHEN WE BRING THE STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER. IF Y'ALL COULD PULL UP SLIDE 7 OF NHSD WITH THE WORKSHOPS, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO VIRTUAL, THIS IS WHERE WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN HELP IN THE REDUCTIONS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING THE VARIABLE AND THE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE SUCH THIS BURDEN -- OR SOME PEOPLE ARE. THE THING IS HAVE THEM COME TO -- GET THEM ONLINE AT THESE WORKSHOPS. LET THEM UNDERSTAND IF THEY HAVE THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. WE DID THAT IN DISTRICT 3 AND WE FOUND IT VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY THAT EVEN IF WE'RE NOT GOING --E PARTICIPATION OF WHERE IT'S HAPPENING. IF YOU SEE THAT YOUR NUMBERS ARE LOW, THEN CONTINUE IT.

I WANT TO SAY THE REASON MINE ARE LOW IS BECAUSE WE GOT THEM STARTING IN 2023.

AND THEY HAVE GOT THEIR EXEMPTIONS. THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOMELESS AND SERVICE STRATEGIES, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW I'M COMMITTED TO THE DAY LABOR. I THINK THERE'S ONE THING, IF WE CAN GET A COMMUNITY MEMBER TO HAVE A DAY OF WORK AND THEN MAYBE A NICE SHOWER OR A HOT MEAL OR EVEN TAKING A MEAL HOME TO THEIR FAMILY OR WHEREVER THEY'RE LIVING THAT DAY IS GOING TO MEAN A LOT. AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE THEM HAVE HOPE. SO WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT WORKING WITH GOODWILL ON THIS. I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE KEY.

THE OTHER THING IS WE DO NEED TO TALK -- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE IN ENCAMPMENTS WHY THEY CHOOSE THE LOCATIONS THEY CHOOSE. IF IT'S FOR A SAFETY REASON -- I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A WOMAN DOWNTOWN AND I ASKED HER, ARE YOU SAFE? AND SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE REASON SHE SLEEPS IN THE DOORWAYS IS BECAUSE SHE FELT SAFE SLEEPING IN THE DOORWAYS.

BECAUSE IF ANYBODY TRIED TO COME AFTER HER THERE, SHE HAD SOMEWHERE TO KIND OF BARRICADE AND BLOCK HER OFF FROM THERE AND KICK BACK. SO THAT IS WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE WHEN WE HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. BUT REALLY MOVING THEM TO THE SHELTER AND GETTING THEM THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES THEY NEED.

I KNOW WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT HERE BUT PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING IS I THINK KEY IN THIS PLAN. BUT IT'S A MULTI-LAYERED PLAN.

I APPRECIATE THESE TIMES. I AM VERY THANKFUL FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR EFFORTS ON PRESENTING THIS. THIS IS LIKE NO OTHER BUDGET WE'VE HAD BEFORE.

WE KNEW IT WAS COMING. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT NOT RAISING PROPERTY TAXES BUT IN THE NEXT BREATH YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOR THE CITY MANAGER, THESE DEPARTMENTS TO FIND MONEY, THERE ISN'T ANY MORE MONEY. THAT'S WHAT A DEFICIT IS. WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY FOR SOME OF THE THINGS YOU WANT. SO IF YOU ARE SAYING YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE A PROPERTY TAX, THEN DON'T ASK FOR ANYTHING ELSE. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR JONES: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER WHYTE, PLEASE. >> WHYTE: THANKS, MAYOR.

STARTING WITH THE TIRZ, I WANT TO SAY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF CONTINUING TO USE TIRZ FUNDING TO MAKE THESE TARGETED INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES, SPECIFICALLY OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND IN DISTRICT 10, OF COURSE, TO SUPPORT THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR. WE RECENTLY JUST APPROVED SOME TIRZ DOLLARS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD SIGNAGE PROGRAM IN THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR. THIS IS, TO ME, A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF USING TIRZ DOLLARS FOR VISIBLE NEIGHBORHOOD-LEVEL

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I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE, HOWEVER, THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO EXTEND THESE FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME THAT WE'RE TYING THOSE EXTENSIONS TO PROSPECTIVE TANGIBLE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO BENEFIT THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE THESE TIRZ. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ONCE THOSE PROJECTS NO LONGER EXIST, THEN I THINK WE DO NEED TO GET THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND. BUT TO THE EXTENT THESE DOLLARS CAN BE USED TO GO DIRECTLY INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND IMPROVE OUR COMMUNITIES, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES, I GUESS ON SLIDE 6 MY QUESTION IS: OF THE $4.3 MILLION IDENTIFIED IN REDUCTIONS, HOW MUCH HERE IS ACTUAL SAVINGS VERSUS JUST BEING TRANSFERRED SPENDING TO SOMEWHERE ELSE OR REPURPOSED IN ANOTHER AREA?

>> SURE. WE HAVE ABOUT $300,000 IN ACTUAL SAVINGS BETWEEN THE PROPERTY TAX HELP CAMPAIGN REDUCTION AND THE LINE ITEM EFFICIENCIES.

AND THE REMAINING $4 MILLION IS TRANSFERRING TO UTILIZE FUND BALANCE THAT EXISTS

BETWEEN TIF AND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND. >> WHYTE: OKAY.

AND ON THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE 7, I DO WANT TO SAY I'M SUPPORTIVE OF FINDING THESE EFFICIENCIES BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ELIMINATING ANY SERVICE THAT DIRECTLY HELPS TAXPAYERS SAVE MONEY. SO IF THE PROGRAM'S PRODUCING A MEASURABLE FINANCIAL BENEFIT FOR HOMEOWNERS, I WOULD RATHER LOOK AT WAYS TO MAKE THE PROGRAM MORE EFFICIENT THAN ELIMINATE IT ALL TOGETHER.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> IT DOES, COUNCILMAN, YES. AND WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. SEVERAL VIDEOS -- THE FULL WORKSHOP ITSELF HAS BEEN RECORDED. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HOUSEHOLDS ARE AWARE OF HOW TO DO THEIR OWN PROTESTS.

AND THAT'S WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE FUNDING AVAILABLE TO DIRECT THEM TO THOSE ONLINE RESOURCES. OUR TEAM WILL BE HERE TO HELP ANYONE WHO NEEDS HELP

NAVIGATING THE PROCESS. >> WHYTE: ALL RIGHT. APPRECIATE THAT.

ON SLIDE 10, YOU KNOW, AGAIN I WANT TO NOTE THAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS INCREASE -- INTEREST RATES INCREASING, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO LOOK BEYOND SUBSIDIES. WE SHOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT WHAT CITY POLICIES MAY BE INCREASING THE COST AND THE TIME IT TAKES TO BUILD THIS HOUSING.

I FILED THAT CCR A YEAR AGO OR SO TO EVALUATE RESIDENTIAL PERMITTING COSTS. I DO WANT US TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON WHETHER THE PERMITTING PROCESS ASSOCIATED FEES ARE CREATING UNNECESSARY BARRIERS. AND AGAIN, MAKING CONSTRUCTION TAKE LONGER.

BECAUSE TIME IS MONEY AND THE MORE THAT IT COSTS TO BUILD, THE MORE EXPENSIVE THE END PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE FOR THE CONSUMER. SO I DID WANT TO NOTE THAT.

YOU KNOW, ONE EXAMPLE IS A FAMILY WANTING TO BUILD AN ADDITIONAL LIVING UNIT ON THE PROPERTY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS STRAIGHTFORWARD AND IS AS AFFORDABLE AS POSSIBLE. THE SAME FOR DEVELOPERS LOOKING TO BUILD MARKET-RATE HOUSING. IF WE CAN REDUCE UNNECESSARY COSTS AND DELAYS, IT WILL BE EASIER TO BUILD MORE HOUSING WITHOUT ENTIRELY RELYING ON

THOSE CITY SUBSIDIES. >> ABSOLUTELY, COUNCILMAN. THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP IN THE SPECIAL HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE REPORT TO LOOK AT STREAMLINING THE PERMITTING PROCESS. WE HAVE SET UP A SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE HOUSING COMMISSION THAT'S WORKING WITH A CONSULTANT ON LOOKING VERY CLOSELY THROUGH THE CODE AND WE'RE BRINGING THOSE 2027 UDC CODE

RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL IN THE SPRING. >> WHYTE: THANK YOU .

ON HOMELESS SERVICES, I DO SUPPORT THE DAY WORK IDEA AND INITIATIVE ON -- I THINK IT WAS SLIDE 7. BUT OVERALL ON THE BUDGET, WHERE WOULD -- WHERE DO YOU

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THE SAME SERVICES WE'RE PROVIDING? >> I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCIES, I THINK OUR WORK WITH STRATEGIC PARTNERS, COUNCILMAN, IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE AREA. SO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH FUNDING IN OUR BUDGET TO BE ABLE TO DO EVERYTHING. BUT IN SOME CASES, WE DON'T NEED TO DO EVERYTHING. SO WHERE HEALTHCARE CAN PLAY A ROLE, WHERE THE COUNTY CAN PLAY A ROLE. THE COUNTY NOW WANTS TO REALLY WORK WITH US ON HOW WE CAN IDENTIFY A CASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT CAN KIND OF WORK ACROSS OUR SYSTEM AND THEIR SYSTEM. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME SYSTEM EFFICIENCIES SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TAKE ON THAT BILL.

OTHER PARTNERS -- WHEN HEALTHCARE TALKED TO US, THEY STARTED TO ASK US WHERE'S YOUR EMR? WE DON'T HAVE ONE. I THINK EFFICIENCIES COMING IN FROM THE OTHER SYSTEMS THAT HAVE EXPERTISE IN OTHER AREAS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

US. >> WHYTE: AND ALL OF THIS STUFF SORT OF NOW BEING

UNDER ONE DEPARTMENT, DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING TO HELP? >> WE THINK SO, COUNCILMAN.

WE THINK IT'S FOCUSING NOW. WE HAD GREAT REPRESENTATION FROM THE SYSTEM PARTNERS THAT PARTICIPATED. NOW THEY IDENTIFY THE CITY REALLY AS HAVING A FUNCTION THAT CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE IN OUR APPROACH THAN JUST BEING REACTIVE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WERE LOOKING FOR. >> WHYTE: LISTEN, Y'ALL DO IMPORTANT WORK. HOMELESSNESS IS OBVIOUSLY A BIG ISSUE IN OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE IT IS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. WE ARE SPENDING A TON OF MONEY IN THIS AREA. AND, YOU KNOW, I HEARD YOU, OUR MISSION IS WHAT DID YOU SAY? MAKE IT RARE AND NON-RECURRING?

>> CORRECT. >> WHYTE: IT'S A GREAT MISSION AND I BELIEVE IN IT.

BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MADE ANY REAL DENT IN HOW MANY FOLKS ARE LIVING ON OUR STREETS FROM NOW COMPARED TO SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS.

OF MONEY HERE. SPENDING A LOT I UNDERSTAND THE MISSION, I BELIEVE IN IT.

BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE SPENDING OUR DOLLARS WISELY AND OI DO THINK WE NEED AN ALL OF THE ABOVE APPROACH AND WE NEED HELP FROM OUR FRIENDS AT THE COUNTY AND REALLY FROM SOME SURROUNDING CITIES AND COUNTIES AS WELL.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A COLLABORATIVE NETWORK WITH SURROUNDING CITIES TO ATTACK THIS PROBLEM. THAT'S ALL I HAVE MAYOR,

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN MCKEE RODRIGUEZ , PLEASE. >> MCKEE-RODRIGUEZ: THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, I WILL FOCUS THE MAJORITY OF MY COMMENTS ON THE TIRZ PLAN AND PROPOSALS BUT I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE WORK OF ALL OF YOUR TEAMINGS AND HOW YOU'VE IMPLEMENTED OUR CCRS, NOT JUST THIS GROUP OF DEPARTMENTS BUT I'VE SEEN IT IN OTHERS, AND WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING THE -- THINGS THAT DISPLEASE US ABOUT THE BUDGET, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I SEE SO MUCH OF OUR WORK BEING IN HERE, I THANK YOU FOR THAT. I SAW THE MISSING PILOT PROGRAM, FORMER COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO'S REQUEST FOR A DAY PROGRAM, SIMILAR TO DENVER DAY WORKS AND OTHER PROPOSALS THROUGHOUT OTHERS INCLUDING THE TRAIN PILOT PROGRAM I PROPOSED AND THE VOUCHER ASSISTANCE COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO HAD PROPOSED. SO I'M SEEING THOSE THINGS AND WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND APPRECIATE IT WITH REGARDS TO INNER CITY TIRZ I WANT TO GIVE MY GRATITUDE FOR MY COLLEAGUES PAST AND PRESENT WHO HAVE HELPED US GET TO THIS POINT WITH THE DISTRICT 2 SENIOR CENTER. WHEN WE FIRST ANNOUNCED WE WOULD BEGIN WORKING ON A SENIOR CENTER, THERE WAS SKEPTICISM BY A NUMBER OF SENIORS. SEEN PROMISES COME AND GO AND SEEN THESE GOALS NOT ACTUALIZE. AND SO IT BECAME A TOP PRIORITY TO ENSURE WE HAD A SHOVEL READY PROJECT, AND THIS WOULD BECOME EXPENSIVE ESPECIALLY AS WE SAW RISING COST OF CONSTRUCTION OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, AND SO MY INTENTION WAS TO LEVERAGE AS MANY TIRZ DOLLARS AS POSSIBLE TO SUPPORT THE PROMPT.

AND THEN AFTER STAFF PRE PRESENTED THE FINANCE MOD MODULES FOR MISSION STADIUM AND DOWNTOWN SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. WE BEGAN WORKING WITH STAFF TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE COULD FUND THE PROJECT ENTIRELY OVERTIRES, AND WE GOT HERE.

SO I'M EXCITED TO HAVE MY SENIORS HERE NEXT WEEK TO ATTEND THE MEETING AND CELEBRATE THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY. BUT ALSO INNER HIS HAS SUPPORTED OUR HOME REPAIR FUND. AUSTIN, POT GROOVEMENTS.

DEPOSIT PROGRAM, A SECOND CAMPUS AND A NEEDS ASSESSMENT.

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SO THERE IS CAPACITY IN EXISTING TIRZ MIDTOWN LIFE TO FUND EACH OF THE PROJECTS WITHIN THE ZONE, AND THE GOAL TO EXTEND THE TIRZ THROUGH 2060 IS LARGELY FLEXIBILITY BUT THAT GRANTS HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS IN FLEXIBILITY WHICH I WORRY HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE EXPLOITED OR TREATED AS A BLANK CHECK TO DEVELOPERS.

INSTEAD, SHOULD IT BE EXTENDED, WE SHOULD ADD INCREMENT TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND WHICH WOULD DEAD INDICATE REVENUE TOWARDS HOUSING. DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LOW BARRIER SHELTER AND PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND COMPLEMENT ANY FUNDING FROM OUR 2027 BOND PROGRAM.

I THINK THIS IS A CREATIVE WAY TO TACKLE A NUMBER OF GOALS WITHOUT BLOCKING ANY FUNDS, SO I WOULD ASK STAFF TO COME BACK WITH A PROPOSAL FOR A PLAN FOR A SIGNIFICANT HOUSING PACKAGE, I KNOW THAT WON'T BE READY BY NEXT WEEK, BUT IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND I'LL EXPRESS, THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR USING TIRZ DOLLARS TO EXPRESS NEEDS WE CAN'T WITH THE GENERAL FUND.

IF NOT FOR THE INNER STITHIES, THAT INCREMENT WOULD GO TO THE GENERAL FUND AND BE SPLIT EVENLY ACROSS ALL DISTRICTS AND D2 WOULD FEEL VIRTUALLY NONE OF IT.

SO I HAVE A WORD OF CAUTION TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT TIRZ ZONES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE USED FOR GREAT THINGS, AND AS A TOOL FOR EQUITY, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DESIGNED TO DO. THE REASON THEY'VE BECOME MORE WATCHING TIRZ DOLLARS FUND ANY COMMUNITY. NAMELY SPORTS VENUES.

AND I UNDERSTAND MANY WILL STAND BEHIND IT, BUT WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

AND SO I WOULD JUST HATE FOR US TO ALLOW THESE TOOLS OF EQUITY TO BE EXPLOITED OR FURTHER ERODE THE TRUST THAT PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY ARE SUCH PHENOMENAL TOOLS AS YOU'LL HEAR FROM MANY OF US. THAT SAID, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE THOUGHTFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT TIERS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO MANY ACTIONS NEXT WEEK. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER SPEARS PLEASE.

>> SPEARS: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

YOU KNOW, TAX DOLLARS ARE PRECIOUS TO US, AND SO IT'S AN IMPORTANT T TOPIC WE'RE ADDRESSING HERE TODAY. I THINK I WANT TO START ON HOMELESSNESS.

I FULLY SUPPORT THIS NEW DIRECTION, MARC, THAT YOU'RE TALKING.

I WAS JUST IN D.C. YESTERDAY WORKING TO TRY TO HELP GET THE SA HEAL GRANT AND REPRREPRESENTATIVE CART ERS FULLY SUPPORTIVE AND TRYING TO HELP US DO THAT, AND I I THINK THAT POT IS GOING TO GROW A LITTLE BIT MORE THEY DID APPROPRIATE $3.45 MILLION TOWARDS VETERAN'S HOMELESSNESS, SO THESE ARE DOLLARS THAT WE CAN GO AFTER AT THE GRANT LEVEL, AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL, AND FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF DOING TH THAT. I THINK THAT THIS IS ADDRESSING THE ROOT ISSUE OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, AND IT'S THE RIGHT WAY FORWARD, AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE HOW THIS GOES, DISTRICT 9 VOLUNTEERS TO BE YOUR PILOT FOR IT. YOU KNOW, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH IS THE TOPIC. IT IS THE BIGGEST OBSTACLE WE ARE FACING WHEN IT COMES TO HO HOMELESSNESS AND MANY OTHER THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN HANDLE -- MOVE FORWARD IN THAT SPACE AND LEAD IN THAT SPACE, WE'LL PUT POSITION -- POSITION US IN MUCH BETTER PLACES T TO, FIRST OF ALL

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I JUST THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK. SO I APPLAUD YOU FOR THOSE EFFORTS. LET'S SEE. I REMEMBER IN MAY THE HSSD WAS TALKING ABOUT A NEED FOR PRIVATE AND PHILANTHROPIC FUNDING, HAVE WE HAD ANY

LUCK IN THAT SPACE? >> COUNCILWOMAN, WHAT CAME OUT OF THE WORK SESSIONS THAT WAS REALLY A PLEASANT SURPRISE WAS THE IDEA OF A STRATEGIC FUNDERS ALLIANCE, SO WE HAVE A MEETING LATER THIS MONTH WITH THE FIRST DAY FOUNDATION, JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE GREATER CHAMBER CREATED A TASK FORCE ON HOMELESSNESS THAT'LL BRING TOGETHER CORPORATIONS AND PHILANTHROPY TO TALK ABOUT STRATEGIC INVESTMENTS.

I THINK OUR ABILITY TO ALIGN WITH SOME OF THOSE EFFORTS WILL -- AND PUT SOME STRUCTURE AROUND THIS, I THINK THE TASK FORCE AND REMEMBER IT'S SUNSETTED FOR FIVE YEARS, I THINK IT SUN SETS IN 2030 OR 2031, SO MAKING A LONGER TERM COM COMMITMENT FOR THIS ISSUE GIVES TIME TO BUILD OUT THESE PRIVATE PUBLIC

PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE. >> SPEARS: GOOD TO HEAR.

I KNOW THE COUNTY IS VERY, VERY INTERESTED IN COLLABORATING WITH US IN THIS SPACE, AND HO HOPEFULLY ALLEVIATE SOME FINANCIAL STRESS THERE.

I DID WANT TO ASK AS WELL, IS THERE A NUMBER OF -- SLIDE 13.

DO WE HAVE A NUMBER FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BECOME HOMELESS DUE TO HOME AND STABILITY

AND FAMILY VIOLENCE IN PARTICULAR? >> WE CAN GET THAT NUMBER

FOR YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. >> SPEARS: OKAY. AND THEN ALSO, IS THERE A WAY TO IDENTIFY THE INDIRECT COSTS THAT ARE INCURRED FOR POLICE AND FIRE?

BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE OFTEN THE FIRST TOUCH. >> WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION,

JUSTINE IS GOING TO PROVIDE IT FOR YOU. >> YEAH.

SO INDIRECT CAUSE FOR POLICE AND FIRE IS ABOUT $30 MILLION, AND THAT INCLUDES COST FOR RESPONSE TIMES AS WELL AS ANY POLICE SUPPORT THAT THEY PROVIDE.

>> SPEARS: THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY THAT THEY'RE ALSO IN THIS SPACE AND HELPFUL AND TRAINED AND EXCELLENT IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT AREA FOR SAN ANTONIO.

ONE MORE QUESTION. WHY DO YOU THINK THIS NEW APPROACH, THE SUSTAINABLE EFFORT VERSUS INTERIM AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WILL BE MORE EFFECTIVE?

>> WE THINK IT'S MORE PROACTIVE. SO WE THINK -- IF WE CAN BEGIN TO IDENTIFY ROOT CA CAUSES AND WE KNOW -- YOU'VE TALKED VERY WELL IN TERMS OF BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AS A THROUGH LINE IN ALL OF THE STRATEGY AREAS, BUT I'M REMINDED OF COUNCILMEMBER GALVAN'S EARLIER COMMENTS AROUND PREVENTION AND ROOT CAUSES AROUND POVERTY, EDUCATION, HOUSING, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, CHILD CARE, ET CETERA, WE THINK TAKING MORE OF A PROACTIVE LENS TO THIS IS THE APPROACH THAT WE NEED TO TAKE RIGHT NOW, AND IT SEEMS TO BE -- IT SEEMS TO RESONATE WITH THE PARTNERS THAT -- THE GOAL IS HOW COULD WE LINE UP THEIR EFFORTS.

WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE FU FUNDING, BUT IF PEOPLE HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AVAILABLE AND THEY'RE WILLING TO REALIGN THEIR WORK, WE THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE WE CAN MAKE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS TO ADDRESS THIS ACROSS THE FRAMEWORK PRIORITY AREAS.

>> SPEARS: I AGREE COMPLETELY. GETTING AT ROOT CAUSES IS GOING TO BE KEY HERE AND REALLY TURNING THIS AROUND IN A DIFFERENT WAY, AND SAVE US A TON OF MONEY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. ON NEIGHBORHOOD SERV SERVICES, I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TRUE OUTCOMES -- REALLY GOOD OUTCOMES HERE. SO MY QUESTION, ON SLIDE 30 -- I'M SORRY, ON SLIDE 3, 50% OF OUR SHIP GOALS -- HOW MANY WERE ACTUALLY -- OF OUR UNITS ARE ACTUALLY COMPLETED AND OCCUPIED VERSUS THE -- THOSE THAT ARE UNDERWAY OR

PLANNED? >> SO BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'LL BE AT 50% OF THE WAY THERE AND WE HAVE ABOUT 9,000 THAT ARE FULLY COMPLETED AT THIS POINT IN

TIME. >> SPEARS: OKAY. THAT'S GOOD.

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ASSISTANCE OR UP TO TWO YEARS. >> WE DO COORDINATE WITH MARC'S TEAM AS WELL AS OUR -- I'M BLANKING ON THE HOMELESS SERVICES RESPONSE SYSTEM PARTNERS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING, AS ANYONE WHO'S IN THE HMIS SYSTEM TO SEE IF THEY'RE COMING BACK INTO THE SYSTEM, WE DON'T TRACK THEM PERSONALLY AFTER THEY RECEIVE RENTAL ASSISTANCE BUT THROUGH THE HMIS SYSTEM WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S ANY REPEAT OR ANYONE WHO FALLS INTO HOMELESSNESS OR NEEDS OTHER SERVICES.

>> SPEARS: OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

AND THEN ON THE TIRZ, I UNDERSTAND IT'S AN IMPORTANT TOOL WE USE TO ENSURE THAT BLIGHTED AREAS ARE IMPROVED, AND I SEE THIS -- SEE, I DON'T HAVE ANY TIRZ IN DISTRICT 9, AND SO WE RELY ONLY ON GENERAL FUND DOLLARS, SO I JUST ALWAYS WANT TO THE MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRULY IMPACTING THESE AREAS WHERE THE TIRZ AND THAT EVERY DOLLAR THAT'S GENERATED OF PUBLIC FUNDING COMMITTED TO THE TIRZ IS REALLY -- WE'RE GETTING A GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT, AND SO I FEEL LIKE THIS EVENS OUT THE EQUITY PIECE TO ME BECAUSE DISTRICT 9 AND 8 DON'T HAVE ANY TIRZ -- ACCESS TO TIRZ MONEY WHICH OBVIOUSLY I MEAN IT WOULD BE NICE TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ANY AREA TO HAVE MONEY DIRECTLY USED IN THAT SPACE BUT HOW DO WE TRACK -- OR HOW DOES -- SPECIF SPECIFICALLY, WHEN A TIRZ IS INVESTING OUTSIDE OF THEIR TIRZ ZONE, WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO SHOW THE BENEFIT TO THEIR OWN TIRZ? DID I MAKE THAT CLEAR?

>> SO THE -- REALLY THE ONLY EXPENSES THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO FUND OUTSIDE OF THAT ZONE WOULD BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR PLACES OF PUBLIC ASSEMBLY , AND SO FUNDING SOMETHING OUTSIDE OF THE ZONE WOULD STILL REQUIRE THAT TIRZ BOARD'S APPROVAL, AND THEN WE COULD COME BACK TO THEM AT THE TIME THAT THEY ASK FOR 6 MONTHS, A YEAR LATER, AND THEY COULD SEE WHAT THE PROGRESS OF THAT INVESTMENT, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OUTSIDE

THE ZONE. >> SPEARS: BUT, I MEAN SO HOW DO THEY JUST INITIATE OR ASK -- OR SAY THIS'LL BENEFIT THE TIRZ? LIKE HOW DO THEY PROVE THAT?

>> OH, SURE. WELL, MANY TIMES THESE PROJECTS ARE LOCATED NEAR THE ZONE, SO EVEN AN SILL AREA DEVELOPMENT CAN STILL RAISE PROPERTY TAX VALUES EVEN WHERE IT IS EVEN IF THAT PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT IN THE ZONE.

>> SPEARS: OKAY. AND THEN -- AND THEN SO YOU MENTIONED -- SO IN GENERAL, I GUESS, AFTER THEY DO THE PROJECTS, THEN YOU'LL COME BACK WITH THE RESULTS OF HOW THE IMPACT WAS FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT PRO PROJECTS.

>> YES. WE REPORT BACK TO THE TIRZ BOARD AND LET THEM KNOW THE

IMPACT OR THE RESULT. >> SPEARS: DO WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF THAT THAT COULD

BE SHARED FROM PRIOR PROJECTS? >> YEAH. WE COULD PROVIDE THAT.

>> SPEARS: OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S ALL OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEM BER GALVAN.

>> GALVAN: THANK YOU AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

I WANT TO START WITH HOMELESS SERVICES. A COUPLE QUICK THINGS HERE.

MARC, I THINK LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT BEING FORMED AT ALL, I MENTIONED THAT I MAY BE A BIT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD I USED AT THE TIME NOT ACCIDENTAL BUT A BIT MORE ON YOU BECAUSE I CARE SO MUCH ABOUT IT NOT SO MUCH IN A WAY THAT -- OR THAT WE'RE DOING ENOUGH BUT WE NEED TO DO MORE AND ELIM ELIMINATING FUNDING. SO I WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE DECOMMISSIONING PILOT FIRST AND FORE FOREMOST. I KNOW IT'S A PILOT SO NOT SYSTEM WIDE LIKE DENVER OR DALLAS OR HOUSTON, BUT I GUESS WHAT'S THE -- CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME LANDSCAPE COMPARISONS BETWEEN OUR CITY AND I MEAN BOTH OUR LITTLE CITY SERVICES ALONG WITH ANY OF OUR PARTNERS, WHAT THE KIND OF SCALE IS IN TERMS OF HAVING ENOUGH OUTREACH WORKERS , ENOUGH HOUSING UNITS AVAILABLE, YOU KNOW, SHELTER, ET CET CETERA, ENOUGH MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES THE WAY THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE HAD WHEN STARTING DECOMMISSIONING PIE LO LOTS, AND I ASK THAT JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO BE A BIG PART OF THIS, AS WE DO INTENTION RESOURCE SUPPORT DO WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OR CAPACITY IN ALL OF THOSE REALMS IN THE SAME WAY THE OTHER CITIES HAD TO SEE

SUCCESS? >> YEAH. GOOD QUESTION, COUNCILMAN, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO START WITH PILOT, AND START WITH SMALLER ENTAM

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THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR CAPACITY FOR HOUSING. THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR CAPACITY FOR TREATMENT SERVICES, EMPLOYMENT SERVICES , AND SO OUR APPROACH IS GOING TO BE AS WE BEGIN TO LEARN MORE, IF WE'RE SEEING CATEGORIES, IF WE'RE SEEING, YOU KNOW, SHELTER BED SPACE OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING OR RAPID REHOUSING OR EVEN SOBER LIVING LOCATIONS, LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ENC ENCAMPMENT. SO I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE WANT TO BEGIN TO IDENTIFY. WE'LL WORK WITH OUR COC, BUT WE'LL ALSO WORK WITH HOUSING PROVIDERS, MAYBE THAT OPERATE OUTSIDE OF THE COC, LIKE SILVER LIVING LOCATIONS, THERE'S ABOUT 60 PLUS THAT EXIST IN OUR COMMUNITY, SOME ARE SMALL MOM AND POP, SOME ARE RUNTHROUGH ORGANIZATIONS. CHURCHES, WE'RE LEAR LEARNING, ALSO -- ESPECIALLY IN OUR WORKSHOPS, A NUMBER OF CHURCHES THAT PARTICIPATED SAID THAT WE HAVE CAPACITY IN THIS AREA THAT FITS WITH THEIR MISSION ALIGNMENT. SO WE THINK THAT BY TAKING THIS APPROACH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF LANE INTERSECTION COULD HAPPEN ORGANICALLY, WHICH MAKES SENSE TO US AS OPPOSED TO SAYING WE'RE GOING TO LAUNCH THIS AND MOVE IT MADE MORE SENSE FOR US TO BE MORE INCREMENTAL, DOCUMENT, REALLY DOCUMENT EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, NO LITTLE DETAIL IS NOT IMPORTANT -- IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE. AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT -- AND COMING BACK, PROBABLY THROUGH PCDC OR OTHER LOCATIONS TO TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE LEARNING, AND BEGIN TO START TO IDENTIFY, HOW DOES THIS MAP UP WITH GAP ANAL ANALYSIS, INTERIM HO HOUSING, SHELTER BED SPACE, IS THIS MATCHING UP, AND THEN IF WE'RE ABLE TO GET THE LARGE FEDERAL GRANT THAT WOULD BE A GAME CHANGE CHANGER FOR U US, BECAUSE IF NOTHING ELSE IT BRINGS RESO RESOURCES, RESOURCES ON THE GROUND BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEING PRETTY CLEARLY, COUNCILMAN, WE NEED TO BE

ABLE TO HAVE THAT SERVICE PROVIDED ON THE STREET. >> GALVAN: ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S HELPFUL. AND I GUESS LOOKING AT MOVING AWAY FROM HAVING THE LOW BEARING SHELTER THAT WE UTILIZE HERE, DO YOU FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH NONCONGREGATE SHELTER HERE IN OUR CITY THAT'S SIMILAR TO THAT TO HELP

ADDRESS THAT NEED. >> WE HAVE A START. I MEAN, I'M HIGHLY ENCOURAGED THAT SAM IS PENDING THIS AWARD FROM TDCHA, BECAUSE WE NEED A MIX OF CONGREGATE, NONCONGREGATE. WE'RE PROBABLY ON THE LOWER END, WE'LL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO ADD TO THAT, SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE 9 MILLION OF CAPITAL FUNDS IF APPROVED BY COUNCIL TO GO OUT WE WOULD HAVE TO BUILD THAT OUT IN FEE.

I'LL TELL YOU FROM A SHELTER CAPACITY, WE NEED ACCESS TO NO BARRIER BECAUSE PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO COME OFF THE STREET WITH THEIR ANIMALS, AS AN EXAMPLE IS AN

IMPORTANT FEATURE. >> GALVAN: YEAH. AND I GUESS I ASK THOSE QUESTIONS AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THE ANAHEIM INITIATIVE IN DENVER, ONE OF THE BIGGEST ONE WAS THE CAPACITY, OF COURSE THEY HAD A $20 MILLION FUND TO DEVELOP THOSE UNITS BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I'M INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THAT -- OF COURSE IN THE LONG TERM, I KNOW THIS IS PILOT BUT LONG-TERM LOOKING AT THE BOND HOW WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND THE NONCONGREGATE SHELTER. AND LIKE YOU SAID THERE IS A NEED FOR A MIX BUT I DO WORRY THAT IF THE SUCCESS IN THATHAT ASPECT FOR THIS KIND OF WORK, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE HERE, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT SPACE, I DON'T WANT TO DO -- POSSIBLY CAN'T KEEP, I BELIEVE THE WORK WILL BE DONE WELL IN THE SMALL PHASE WE'RE DOING IT, BUT THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH IT.

>> AND I WOULD MAKE ONE FINAL COMMENT THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT BOND, REMEMBER THE NEED FOR TRANSITIONAL AND RAPID, SO WE COULD GET SOMEBODY IN THE SHELTER ORGANIZATION AND GET THEM IN ANOTHER 18 TO 24 MONTHS OF HOUSING COULD BE JUST A GAME

CHANGER FOR THEM. >> GALVAN: YEAH. AND THE I GUESS ON THAT POINT -- I KNOW IT'S F FY2025, SO NOT THIS ONE, BUT LOOKING AT THE CITIZEN 9 FOLKS WHO RETURN TO HOMELESSNES, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON WHERE THEY LEFT FROM OR

WHERE THEY WENT AND THEN LEFT FROM. >> SO IT COULD BE EMERGENCY SHELTER, IT COULD BE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, SOME COULD BE FROM SOBER LIVING FACILITIES, WE'RE DRILLING A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO WHERE THEY'RE LEAVING FROM, BUT WHAT WAS THE REASON WHY SO WE'LL HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA MOVING INTO THE NEW

FISCAL YEAR. >> GALVAN: GOT. IT AND YEAR OVER YEAR FOR

THAT? >> WE HAVE YEAR OVER YEAR, AND ACTUALLY THE LATEST TREND SINCE REPORTING TO MAY THE RETURN TO HOMELESSNESS DROPPING TO 400 BUT MY QUESTION IS WHY DID IT DROP? WHAT ARE WE DOING? AND DO WE NEED TO REPLICATE

THAT? >> GALVAN: OKAY. AND SIMILARLY FOR NOT SEEKING SHELTER DO WE HAVE REASONS WHY WE'RE LOOKING INTO DETAILS THERE?

>> I THINK SOME OF IT -- PART OF THE REASON WE WENT AFTER STREETS WE'RE STILL SEEING SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES SO PEOPLE NOT BEING IN A FRAME

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BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE A PRIMARY. >> GALVAN: OKAY.

I DON'T KNOW HOW POSSIBLE IT IS FOR THIS BUDGET CYCLE BUT I THINK IN THE LONG RUN IS THERE ANYWAY YOU'RE ABLE TO -- YOU AND THE TEAM, THE TEAM BEING THE LARGER CLOSE TO HOME FOLKS AND EVERYBODY, IS THERE A WAY TO KIND OF LAYOUT WHAT THE CAPACITY NEEDS ARE, WHAT THE FINANC ING NEEDS ARE, WHAT THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH NEEDS ARE, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME OF THAT BUT I GUESS IN TERMS OF DOLLAR TO UNIT AMOUNT, DOLLAR TO BED AMOUNT, WHATEVER IT IS TO SEE THAT LONG RUNWAY AND HELP -- I THINK THAT WOULD HELP OUR OWN DECISIONS HERE A LITTLE BIT AND HOPEFULLY ALSO THE PARTNERING DECISIONS WE MAKE TOO. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S

POSSIBLE OR HAS BEEN DONE ALREADY. >> WE STARTED ON THAT, AND WITH TWO WORK SESSIONS WE DID, ASK ORGANIZATIONS TO PROVIDE US WITH BUDGET ORGANIZATION, SO HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE P PUTTING INTO THEIR LANE OF WORK SO WE CAN START TO PUT DOLLAR AMOUNTS. WE CAN CAPTURE JUST INFORMATION, ORGANIZATIONAL BUDGET INFORMATION FROM DELEGATE AGENCIES WE FUND BUT IT DOESN'T PROVIDE US ENOUGH OF A DRILLDOWN SO WE WENT THROUGH THAT EXERCISE DURING THE WORK SESS SESSIONS. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT NOW,

COUNCILMAN. >> GALVAN: GOT IT. OKAY.

AND I THINK ONE OF THE LAST THINGS I WANTED TO ASK OF COURSE COORDINATION WITH ACS, IN YOUR OTHER BUDGET TOWN HALL AS WELL, WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF OUR CONVERSATION HERE BUT THINKING ABOUT THE PET HEALTH NEEDS THAT ARE USUALLY UNABLE TO BE ADDRESSED I'VE HEARD IT FROM MULTIPLE FOLKS IN THE ANIMAL CARE WORLD ALONG WITH THE

THAT SOMETHING EXPLORED DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE? >> YES.

I LEARNED A LOT AT YOUR TOWN HALL SITTING NEXT TO JOHN GARY IN TERMS OF WHAT OUR TEAMS -- BOTH TEAMS ARE DOING NOW ON THE GROUND. I WENT TO OUTREACH WO WORKERS TO ASK THAT QUESTION, GOT FEE FEEDBACK FROM THEM.

I DO -- THERE'S PROBABLY -- WHAT I LEARNED AND WHAT'S NOT SURPRISING IS THE FOLKS WE SERVE TEND TO BE RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS BECAUSE THE PETS ARE WITH THEM ALL THE TIME SO TAKING THIS 'EM TO FREE SPAY NEUTER, DOING THOSE THINGS, SO HOW TO GO DEEPER, MORE STRATEGICALLY BEYOND WHAT -- COULD THE TEAMS WORK JOINTLY IN TERMS OF OUTREACH INTO THE COMMUNITY, SO I ASKED JOHN IF AFTER THIS BUDGET CYCLE IS DONE TO SIT DOWN AND MAP OUT HOW IT FITS IN FRAMEWORK AND HIS STRATEGIC

PLAN. >> GALVAN: OKAY. GREAT.

YEAH I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE ANSWERS ON THAT.

REALLY QUICKLY IN THE LAST QUICK MINUTE FOR JUSTINE, I JUST WANTED TO ASK FOR THE EVICTION PREVENTION, THE REFE REFERRALS FOR LEGAL AID FOR THIS YEAR OF 2025, HOW MANY WERE ULTIMATELY ASSISTED AND HAD CASES E SOLVED AND AVOIDED EVICTION

VERSUS JUST REFERRED? >> TATE: SURE. COUNCILMEMBER, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH HOW MANY OF THOSE RESULTED IN THE CASE BEING DISMISSED.

WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH THAT. >> GALVAN: THANK YOU.

AND IS THERE ANY COLLABORATION CONVERSATIONS GOING ON WITH THE COUNTY ABOUT EVICTION DIVERSION PROGRAMS OR ANY OF THE SORT THERE TO HELP COUPLE THE

WORK NEEDED FOR EVICTION PREVENTION IN THE CITY. >> TATE: SURE WE WELCOME MORE CONVERSATIONS ON THAT BUT IT IS THROUGH OUR COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY THAT WE ARE EVEN ALLOWED TO HAVE THE CITY STAFF AT AN EVICTION HEARING SO WE HAVE STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE JUDGES AND THE COUNTY STAFF SO WE COULD CERTAINLY

TALK ABOUT WHAT ADDITIONAL COLLABORATION IS POSSIBLE. >> GALVAN: OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER MEZA GONZALEZ, PLEASE.

>> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ALL FOR THE PRESENTATIONS.

I'LL START WITH THE TI TIRZ. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF CONTINUING THAT INV INVESTMENT. I THINK WE ARE IMPROVING THE LIVES OF RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, PROVIDING INCREASED ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE IN COMMUNITIES THAT I THINK ARE MOST IN NEED OF THAT INVESTMENT, SO JUST SO WE UNDERSTAND THE FULL PICTURE OF -- AND I APPRECIATE THE IDEA OF WRAPPING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH WE'VE NORMALLY DONE THROUGH OUR BOND PROGRAM, DOES THAT ALLOW FOR THOSE PROJECTS TO COME IN FASTER OR SOONER IF WE DO IT THROUGH THAT ROUTE?

THROUGH THE TIRZ VERSUS THE BOND PROGRAM? >> SURE.

WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT ANALYSIS, COUNCILWOMAN, BUT WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT LESS THAN $20 MILLION OF THE BOND REMAINING, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THE NEW HOUSING BOND INTEREST THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO UTILIZE NEXT YEAR, SO THE BOND FUNDS ARE LIMITED AND IDENTIFYING SOURCES SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING INVESTMENT THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE PAST FOUR YEARS IS CRITICAL.

>> GONZALEZ: AND WHAT'S THE DOLLAR AMOUNT TO MEET THE SHIP GOAL?

>> FUNDS NEEDED? WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT THROUGH THE REFRESH, BUT THE LAST ESTIMATE WAS OVER A BILLION DOLLARS BUT THAT DOES INCLUDE ALL OF THE

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>> GONZALEZ: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> AND I THINK, COUNCILWOMAN , BASED ON WHAT COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ WAS SAYING, WE'LL DO SOME FOLLOW UP ON WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF TIMING, AND DEBT

ISSUANCE AND WE'LL DO THAT AS PART OF OUR FOLLOW UP. >> GONZALEZ: OKAY.

THANK YOU. ON NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES, ON SLIDE 10, THE PRIORITY AREAS, WHAT ARE THE -- WHAT'S THE CRITERIA FOR THOSE PRIORITY PROJECTS ON

THE MILLION DOLLARS CITY FEE WAIVERS. >> SURE SO FOR AFF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE PROJECT MUST INCLUDE AT LEAST HALF OF THE UNITS SET ASIDE FOR FAMILIES AT 60% AREA MEDIAN INCOME OR BELOW, AND IF THEY INCLUDE 30% UNITS THEY GET HIGHER UP ON THE LIST FOR PRIORITY. FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS WAIVERS, THOSE ARE MANAGED THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT , AND THEY'RE PRIMARILY SERVING SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOOKING TO EXPAND, MAYBE THEY'RE GROWING THEIR BUSINESS, ADDING IMP IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT FEES TO BE PAID, AND THIS COULD HELP WAIVE THOSE, AND THEN FOR TARGETED INTERSTREET, ALL OF THOSE COMES TO COUNCIL INDIVIDUALLY FOR CONSIDERATION AS PART OF THOSE PACK ANGS, AND SOME RECENT ONES HAVE BEEN TOYOTA OR JCB BANK.

>> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU. ON THOSE INITIATIVES I'M SUPPORTIVE OF -- SUP SUPPORTING THAT IN THAT I THINK JUST BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION COSTS A ARE -- YOU KNOW, IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE TO WORK ON WHAT YOU ALREADY HA HAVE; RIGHT? AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA FOR RESIDENTS, AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR THE SHIP REFRESH, I'M IMAGINING IT'S

A PLACE WE COULD DO A DEEPER DIVE ON THE PRESERVATION. >> YES.

ABSOLUTELY. IT DOES INCLUDE PRESERVATION GOALS.

>> AND THEN ON THE MISSING MEDAL. I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THAT, BUT I WOULD ASK WE WRITE THAT MORE BROADLY TO THINK ABOUT OUTSIDE THE URBAN CORE.

I REPRESENT THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA, THERE'S 90,000 JOBS IN THAT AREA FROM DOCTORS TO FOLKS THAT HELP CLEAN OUR HOSPITALS EVERY SINGLE DAY AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOLK CANS LIVE WHERE NEAR THEY WORK, AND I THINK THAT'S JUST THE PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE COULD DO SOME WORK THERE ON THE MI MISSING METAL SIDE.

>> TATE: AND ONCE THAT'S FI FINALIZED WE COULD BRING IT TO COUNCIL FOR

CONSIDERATION AND LOOK AT AREAS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE. >> GONZALEZ: AND JUST BECAUSE YESTERDAY WE HAD OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING, AND WE TALKED ABOUT OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, WHICH INCLUDES INNOVATION ZONES, AND SO ALL OF THIS I FEEL JUST NEEDS TO CONNECT; RIGHT? WE CAN'T -- I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT SILOS ALL THE TIME, BUT I THINK THIS IS JUST TOO FRESH, RIGHT, YESTERDAY HEARING ABOUT THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORK, THE TARGETED AREAS THERE, I THINK THOSE MATCH -- OR SHOULD MATCH WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE HOUSING SIDE.

>> TATE: GOT IT. >> GONZALEZ: ON THE HOMELESS SERVICES, NOT TOO MANY QUES QUESTIONS, IT'S JUST I HEAR A LOT ABOUT ARE WE MOVING THE NEEDLE, ARE WE MOVING THE NEE NEEDLE, AND I THINK -- I WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE; RIGHT? BUT IT'S THE CHALLENGE WE HAVE IS THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO -- THE RESOURCES ARE OUTPACING THE FOLKS COMING INTO THE SYS SYSTEM; RIGHT? AND I THINK WE'RE -- IT'S A MOVING TARGET. EVERY BUDGET CYCLE, EVERY DEPARTMENT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, A MOVING TARGET, BUT FOR THE HOMELESS SERVICES, I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY THAT WHERE I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE INV INVESTING, WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THE SERVICES THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT STABILITY, BUT AS FAR AS THE NEW PEOPLE COMING -- ENTERING HO HOMELESSNESS, DO YOU HAVE

THAT NUMBER FOR THIS YEAR AND WHY? >> SO WHAT WE SAID IN THE MAY FRAMEWORK WAS IN FY25, I THINK IT WAS 1,738 WERE NEW TO HO HOMELESSNESS DURING THIS YEAR. WE HAVE AN UPDATED AS OF LAST MONTH, COUNCI COUNCILWOMAN, FOR FY26. FOR MULTIPLE REASONS, I THINK WE'RE SEEING AFFORD ABLE HOUSING, LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I THINK WE'RE SEEING LOSS OF JOB, EMPLOYMENT, I THINK WE'RE SEEING SOME BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISS ISSUES.

WE'RE SEEING SOME MEDICAL ISSUES, PEOPLE THAT GET -- HAVE AN ACCIDENT, LOSE THEIR J JOB, AND THEY'RE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PRIMARY DRIVERS AND IT'S WHY WE WANTED IN THE WORK SESSION -- WE HAD PARTNERS THERE THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE NORMALLY DO, BUT THEY IMPACTED ON THE PREVENTION SIDE, AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED THEM THERE. WHAT CAN THEY BRING TO THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING NOW SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO CLOSE THE PICK MARQUETTE ON THE FRONT IN BECAUSE IF WITH WE DON'T DO THIS, THE WORK ON THE BACK END DOESN'T MAKE

SENSE. >> GONZALEZ: SO WHAT IS THE ANSWER WHEN FOLKS SAY WE'RE

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>> THE ANSWER IS WE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE, WHEN YOU CONSIDER LAST YEAR THERE WAS OVER 4100 PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE STREET THAT 2800 OF THEM WERE ENGAGED AND PLACED IN SHELTER HOUSING, THAT'S MOVING THE NEE NEEDLE, THAT'S GETTING, YOU KNOW, 2800 PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE STREETS INTO SHELTER AND HOU HOUSING.

WHEN WE'RE TALKING STILL ABOUT THE RENTAL ASSISTANCE FUNDING THAT GOES IN -- KEEP IN MIND ON THE PREVENTION SIDE, THE 1700 REPRESENTS -- 85% OF THAT RENTAL ASSISTANCE FUNDING THAT HAPPENS THROUGH NHSD, UNITED WAY, VA, IT HELPS KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED, THAT'S THE JOB AND THEY SELF-RESOLVE IT'S THE REMAINING THAT MOVE TO HOMELESS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS ON. SO THE TOOLS ARE WORK, IT'S HOW COULD WE FOCUS MORE ON WHERE IT'S NOT WORKING. IDENTIFY WHAT THE SYMPTOMS AND ROOT CAUSES ARE. BRINGING SYSTEMS THAT WORK ON THAT, WE DON'T DO CHILD CARE OR WORKFORCE, BUT THERE ARE OTHERS THAT DO AND HOW COULD WE REDIRECT THOSE RESOURCES TO IMPACT. SO WE HAVE DATA ON SOME OF THIS, HOW DO WE DRILL IT

DOWN, BUT OVERALL WE ARE MOVING THE NEEDLE. >> GONZALEZ: THANK YOU.

ON THE SHARED CLIENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, I GUESS HAVE WE GOTTEN TO A PLACE WHERE WE KNOW WHICH ENTITY WILL HOLD THAT DATA OR BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT?

>> WELL, WE KNOW RIGHT NOW THAT THROUGH OUR HOMELESS -- THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS HOTLINE, WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE ALAMO AREA COMMUNITY NETWORK, AACN , AND THAT'S WHAT'S ALLOWING US NOW TO TRACK MORE PEOPLE ONCE WE PLACE A REFERRAL WITH SOMEONE OVER TO AN ORGANIZATION, BUT IN OUR ARGUES -- MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN CASE MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH THE SAME ISSUE SO MY NEXT STEP AFTER THE BUDGET CYCLE IS TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM AND MAP OUT -- STRAC HAS JELL LAT TOE SYSTEM, THERE ARE OTHER SYSTEMS OUT THERE, WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE AND WHAT'S EASIEST FOR SYSTEMS TO MOVE INTO AS A STARTING POINT, CAN THE EXPERIENCE OF SOMEBODY GOING THROUGH THIS BE SEEMLESS,

THAT'S THE QUESTION FOR ME. >> GONZALEZ: YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO,

PLEASE. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR THE PRESENTATION. I HAD A COUPLE OF GENERAL QUESTIONS REG REGARDING TIRZ. VERONICA, CAN YOU REMIND ME REGARDING DEVELOPER INITIATED TERMS WHO ULTIMATELY SETS THE EXPECTATION OF POTENTIALLY SUNSETTING THAT DEVELOPER-INITIATED TIRZ AND/OR EXTENDING IT, AND THEN REGARDING SOME OF THE PARAMETERS IN WHICH THE DEVEL DEVELOPER-INITIATED TIRZ GOVERN, IS THERE OPPORTUNITY FOR COUNCIL TO SET AFFORDABILITY EXPECTATIONS WITH DEVELOPER

INITIATED TI TIRZ? >> SURE. ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE DEVELOPER USUALLY PROPOSES HOW MUCH FU FUNDING THEY ARE SEEKING BASED ON THE LEVEL OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THEY'RE DOING AND ALSO PROPOSE HOW MUCH TIME THAT THEY -- THE TERM OF THE TIRZ, IT ULTIMATELY COMES TO CITY COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TO AUTHORIZE THAT TIME EXTENSION AND THEN REGARDING YOUR QUESTION ON AFFORDABILITY, WE HAVE LANGUAGE IN THE TIRZ POLICY THAT STATES HOUSING SHOULD CONSIDER AFFORDABLE IN LINE WITH SHIP TERMS AND FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE ONLY MARKET RATE, WE ASK THEM TO DO A MARKET ASSESSMENT TO DEMONSTRATE WHY MARKET RATE HOUSING IS NEEDED, WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, AND ULTIMATELY, AGAIN, ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS DO HAVE TO COME TO CITY COUNSEL FOR APPROVAL, SO COUNCIL COULD REQUIRE OR REQUEST A LOOK AT WHAT OTHER AFFORDABILITY CONSIDERATIONS MAY BE NEEDED

DEPENDING ON THE PROPOSAL. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU. AND THE BEYOND THE BUDGET I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN TO SEE; RIGHT? AND I GUESS A DEVELOPER INITIATED TIRZ TO SEE WHAT AMOUNT OF AFF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE SHIP AND OUR EXPECTATIONS ARE WE PRODUCING THROUGH DEVELOPER INITIATED TIRZ AND I BRING THAT UP BECAUSE I THINK ABOUT LIMITED FUNDS WITH HOUSING BOND AND VOTER APPROVED DOLLARS, WHEREAS WITH DEVELOPER INITIATED TIRZ YES THERE IS COUNCIL ACTION, BOARD ACTION, BUT THESE ARE PROPERTY TAXES THAT ARE DIVERTED FROM THE GENERAL FUND; RIGHT? THAT SEEM TO HAVE MORE FREE RANGE, SO I THINK THERE'S VALUE.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO S SEE, IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES HAVE BEEN GENERATED AS WELL, JUST SO I COULD HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING TO INFORM FUTURE TIRZ CONVER CONVERSATIONS. LOOKING AT THE CAPACITY OF I BELIEVE IT'S THE INNER CITY TIRZ, I'M CURIOUS IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO POTENTIALLY FUND THE BOTANICAL GARDENS AND BOOK FESTIVAL THROUGH THOSE TIRZ SINCE THE FUNCTIONS SIT WITHIN THOSE TIRZ, SO THAT'S POTENTIALLY A MILLION DOLLARS THAT COULD

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YEAR AFTER THAT WE KNOW IN DISTRICT 5 WE HAVE MORE APPLICANTS FOR MINOR MAJOR REHAB THAN WE DO SLOTS, SO VERY COMPETITIVE PROGRAM, MUCH INTEREST, AND A LOT OF VALUE IN THOSE PROGRAMS, SO JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR ALWAYS DOING THAT DUE DILIGENCE AND OF COURSE GOING INTO THE HOMES OF RESIDENTS AS NEEDED SO THANK YOU AND MY TEAM AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU AND EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOUR TEAM MEMBERS FOR SHOWING UP IN THE ROOMS TO NAVIGATE HOME AND REHAB.

I DID HAVE A QUESTION RELATED TO THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, THE DUE DILIGENCE FEE. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND -- I BELIEVE IT'S ROUGHLY A 200% INCREASE GOING FROM -- I BELIEVE IT'S $2,500 FEE TO 50,000, COULD YOU HELP ME

UNDERSTAND THAT INCREASE AND WHY IT'S SO SUBSTANTIAL. >> THE SAN ANTONIO HO

HOUSING TRUST FEES? >> CASTILLO: YES. >> OKAY.

I THINK I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ON WHICH FEE. >> CASTILLO: SO WITH THE DUE DILIGENCE FEE FOR THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, THAT'S PROPOSED IN THE BUDGET TO BE INCREASED FROM 2,500 TO 50,000, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY SUCH A DRASTIC INCREASE. IF -- WITH THE HOUSING TRUST PROJECTS, THERE'S A ROBUST DUE DILIGENCE AND A PROJECT READY TO GO SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT

INCREASE TO THE FEE. >> SURE. TYPICALLY IT HELPS COVER THE COST OF ISSUING DEBT TO THOSE PROJECTS BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE BUDGET TEAM

TO FURTHER ELABORATE ON THAT. >> CASTILLO: THANKS, VERONICA.

>> COUNCILWOMAN, THAT'S CORRECT. IT IS A FUNCTION OF THE DEBT THAT IS ISSUED BY THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES, AND SO JUST TO ALIGN IT WITH THE

OTHER PIECES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEBT THAT'S ISSUED. >> CASTILLO: I HAVE SOME CONCERN WITH THAT PROPOSED INCREASE FEE BECAUSE, AGAIN THROUGH THE SAN ANTONIO HOUSING TRUST, WE ARE PROVIDING DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT HAS UNIVERSAL DESIGNS AND OFTENTIMES HIGHER STANDARDS THAN CITY HOUSING PROJECTS, SO I JUST WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE COST TO PRODUCE MORE QUALITY HOUSING BY INCREASING THAT FEE, BUT I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION, AND, AGAIN, JUST EMPHASIZING THAT THOSE PROJECTS ARE TYPICALLY FIRMLY UNDERWRITTEN AND THE HOUSING TRUST JUST HAS A GREAT HISTORY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE PROD PRODUCING.

THANK YOU. IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WANT TO MOVE OVER TO MARC AND HIS TEAM. AS FOLKS KNOW, YEAR AFTER YEAR WE CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM NOT JUST DISTRICT 35 RESIDENTS BUT ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BUT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS CONTINUE TO BE A TOP PRIORITY IN TERMS OF BUDGET ALLOCATION, SO I WANT TO BE SURE TO THANK OUR STREET OUTREACH TEAM FOR THEIR GREAT WORK THROUGHOUT THE CITY. OFTENTIMES, I BELIEVE, OVERWORKED BECAUSE OF THE HIGH NEED OF HOMELESSNESS, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THIS RECOMMENDED PILOT, THAT WE'RE TRACKING IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH EACH CASE STREET OUTREACH WORKER, WHAT THEIR CASE LOAD LOOKS LIKE BY REGION; RIGHT? AND I ALWAYS GO BACK TO THE EXAMPLE FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, AT THE ME MEETINGS, CODE OFFICERS THEY'RE NOT SAYING EXPL EXPLICITLY BUT THEY'RE OVERWHELMED WITH THE AMOUNT OF CODE CASES THEY RECEIVE, AND OFTENTIMES THEY OVERLAP WITH ENCAMPMENTS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS, SO I WANT TO ENSURE THAT IF WE LOOK THROUGHOUT THE CITY WE DON'T SEE CITY EMPLOYEES WITH DISTRICT FIVE, AND ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAVING DOUBLE, TRIPLE A CASE LOAD FOR A CASE OR OUTREACH WORKER IN DISTRICTS 10, FOR EXAMPLE. SO THAT WAY WE'RE BEING MI MINDFUL OF THE CASE LOAD.

FOR THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS, CAN YOU DETAIL A BIT -- AND I KNOW YOU STATED IT IN THE PRESENTATION, FOR THE 50,000 FROM THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FU FUNDING, COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH AGAIN HOW IT'LL BE USED IN CONTRAST FROM 26 TO 27?

>> SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WAS THAT THERE WAS $200,000, COUNCILWOMAN, THAT WAS IN THE GENERAL FUND IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE MEDICATION ASSISTED TREATMENT. THERE STILL IS $150,000 THAT'S AVAILABLE THROUGH THE OPIOID TREATMENT DOLLARS THROUGH THE STATE, AND SO WE WOULD REPURPOSE WHAT WAS IN OUR BUDGET IN GENERAL FUND TOWARDS BASICALLY BUYING EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS, WO

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WORKING WITH LOCAL PARTNERS. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

AND REMINDED OF THE WORK OF THE HOMELESS CASES AND WE GET FROM CONSTITUENTS AND HO HOMELESS MEMBERS WHO MAY COME INTO THE LIBRARY AND CURIOUS WHAT WE PROVIDE IN TERMS OF SERVICES. AND WITH THE RECENT FLOOD WE LEARNED ABOUT A COUPLE OF UNHOUSED COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT LOST THEIR LIVES TO THE STORM AND THE WATER, AND THERE WAS ONE INSTANCE IN WHICH CHRISTINE WAS HELPING A CONSTITUENT WHO WAS -- HAD MIXED IMMIGRATION STATUS, BUT BECAUSE OF THAT, THERE ARE MORE BARRIERS TO FINDING A PLACE FOR US TO PLACE THE GENTLEMAN, AND THROUGH THAT PRO PROCESS, AND THE OUTREACH WORKER WAS DOING AND DOING EVERYTHING THEY COULD, SO UNFORTUNATELY, THIS UNHOUSED INDIVIDUAL WAS FOUND DECEASED IN A PORT POTTY AT A PARK; RIGHT? AND THIS IS SOMEONE THAT THE OUTREACH WORKER, OUR TEAM HAD BEEN WORKING TO GET IDENTIFICATION, SO ON, SO FORTH, AND PLACEMENT HAVEN. AND THAT TELLS ME FOLKS ARE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN FOR PLACEMENT BUT THERE ARE STILL BARRIERS TO ENTRY INTO THE SERVICES THAT WE DO HAVE. AND SO I'M GRATEFUL TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE PRO PROPOSING IS MORE ACCESS TO LOW BARRIER SHELTER BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A HIGH NEED.

AS YOU'VE LAID OUT THE LANDSCAPE, WE'RE SEEING MORE INDIVIDUALS UNEMPLOYED FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME, AND IT'S LEADING TO MORE FOLKS BECOMING UNHOUSED.

SO JUST APPRECIATE YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS, INTENTION BEHIND THE DECOMMISSIONING PILOTS, THE CONNECTION TO POTENTIAL DIVERSION, AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE DAY WORK PROGRAM. SO JUST EXTREMELY GRATEFUL FOR YOU, PATRICK, AND THE ENTIRE TEAM, AND OF COURSE THE OUTREACH WORKERS DOING THE WORK, THE RELATIONSHIPS, AND OF COURSE ABSORBING MUCH OF THAT TRAUMA WITH EACH OF THE UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS WORKING WITH. SO GRATEFUL FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU, MARC, THANK YOU. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN ALDERETE GAVITO, PLEASE. >> ALDERETE GAVITO: THANK YOU. I HAVE JUST A FEW QUICK COMMENTS.

A LOT HAS ALREADY BEEN MENTIONED. WITH THE TIRZ, YEAH, JUST WANT TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD. THEY MAKE SENSE. DISTRICT 7 ALSO DOESN'T HAVE ANY, BUT I DO SEE HOW TIRZ CAN MOVE THE NEEDLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY, SO ALL GOOD WITH CONTINUING IT. I DID ACTUALLY HAVE ONE LOGISTICAL QUESTION, ERIC, MAYBE THIS IS FOR YOU, BUT WHY 2060 AGAIN FOR ALL OF THEM TO LINE UP AGAIN? SO, COUNCILWOMAN, FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS, WE MADE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE HOUSTON STREET TIRZ FOR 2060, AND THEN A LOT OF IT IS BEING BASED OFF OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT, FOR EXAMPLE THE SENIOR CENTER IN DISTRICT 2 OR DEBT FUNDING IN MIDTOWN. WE WANTED TO -- WE WANTED TO COLLAPSE THOSE ALL SO THAT THEY ENDED AT THE SAME TIME. THEY HAD VARYING DEGREES OF END DATES, AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE SPREAD OUT THE DEBT AND WE WERE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT -- THE ISSUANCE OF THAT -- THOSE PROJECTS. AND THEN IT STILL ALLOWS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN THE

FUTURE FOR THE CITY OR FUTURE COUNCILMEMBERS. >> OKAY.

SOUNDS GOODS. THANK YOU. >> VERONICA, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR NHSD. I DO WANT TO GIVE A QUICK SHOUTOUT TOYON BEN VIES, WHO'S BEEN WORKING WITH MY TEAM AND THE DISTRICT 5 TEAM ON THE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS WE'RE HAVING TO ADDRESS VACANT BUILDINGS AND HOUSES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW MORNING, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE THE PROGRESS AFTER OUR FIRST MEETING. I KNOW DISTRICT 7 AND I THINK A LOT OF OUR DISTRICTS HAVE A TON OF VAY CAN PROPERTIES, WHETHER RESIDENTIAL OR BUSINESS BUILDINGS, AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE UNIDENTIFIED OR MI MISSING OWNERS, AND SO YOU THINK ABOUT IT, AND JUST WITH THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY OF HOMELESSNESS, AND ALL THE PLACES THAT WE NEED, BUT Y YET, WE'RE SITTING ON THE LARGE INVENTORY OF VACANT PROPERTIES. AND SO THERE HAS TO BE -- YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE TURN OVER THESE VACANT PROPERTIES SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WE COULD HAVE THE HOUSING THAT WE NEED FOR HOMES WILLNESS, SO THANK YOU, IAN, AND TEAM FOR YA'LL'S HELP WITH ALL OF THAT.

AND THEN, REALLY QUICKLY ON HO HOMELESSNESS AND HOUSING, MARC, THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION. I SEE THE DIRECT SPIN ON HOMELESSNESS, BUT DO WE KNOW OUR INDIRECT SPEND? SO LIKE WHEN SOLID WASTE HAS TO GO OUT AND CLEAN AN ENCAMPMENT, THAT KIND OF STUFF OR POLICE HAVE TO ESCORT?

>> SURE. SO OUR DIRECT SPEND IS ABOUT $31.4 MILLION, AND THAT

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COST. >> ALDERETE GAVITO: SO THEN LO LOOKING AT AROUND 60 -- A SHADE OVER 60 MILLION FOR HOME HOMELESSNESS. OKAY.

WHICH I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE , AND YEAH FROM A RESIDENT'S PERSPECTIVE IT'S HARD TO FEEL THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL FEELING THESE DAILY FRUSTR FRUSTRATIONS, BUT MARC, AND TO YOUR POINT, LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'RE GETTING PLACED. BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO US TRYING TO STOP THE BLEED, AND THIS IS WHERE I THINK US INVESTING I IS -- ESPECIALLY IN OUR FOSTER USE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY -- YOU KNOW, THEY'RE -- I CAN'T RECALL THE PERCENTAGE, BUT SO MANY OF OUR FOSTER YOUTH, AT NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, RIGHT, YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT FOSTER KIDS BECAUSE THEY DID ANYTHING WRONG, END UP OUR OWN STREETS AND END UP HOMELESS. AND SO I THINK IF WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND KIDS WHO QUOTE/UNQUOTE GRADUATE FROM THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM, I THINK THAT WILL BE EXTREMELY PREVENTATIVE SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ON OUR STREETS, AND THEN WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT M MORE ON CLEANING THAT STUFF UP. DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF THE DAY WORK PROGRAM, AND, YEAH, JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO WITH YOU FURTHER, MARC, ON HOW TO LOOK AT MORE PREVENTATIVE MEASURES SO THAT WAY I THINK COLLECTIVELY WE CAN ALL FEEL LIKE WE'RE MOVING THE NEEDLE ON THIS. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER MUNGIA, PLEASE. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I CERTAINLY THINK THESE THREE AREAS ARE TIMELY CONSIDERING THE PAST WEEKEND WE HAD AND THE AFFECTS THE COMMUNITY FELT, SO THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY HELPING WITH THAT TOO. SO I'LL START WITH NHSD. SO FIRST, GREAT JOB.

WE LOVE NHSD, YOU DO FANTASTIC WORK, AND I THINK YOUR DEPARTMENT DOES SUCH A GOOD JOB WITH PUBLIC MEETINGS , AND GETTING THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU DO AND THE SURVEY RESPONSES AND ENGAGING WITH FOLKS. SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S GONE WELL, AND WE HAD SOMETHING AT THE ROBIN NNET CENTER AND IT WAS A GOOD TURNOUT WHEN A LOT OF YOUR TEAM WAS THERE, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND YOU DO EXCEPTIONAL WORK. AND IF WE COULD GO TO SLIDE NI NINE, I WANT TO POINT OUT THIS PROJECT THAT YA'LL HELPED US WITH.

THIS WAS -- ON THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE THERE, THAT'S ONE OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE PALO ALTO COMMUNITY, AND SHE APPROACHED US AT ONE OF OUR HEALTH EVENTS AND MENTIONED THAT SHE NEEDED HELP, AND THAT RAMP THERE, A VERY BEAUTIFUL RAMP, IT GOES -- IT'S VERY LONG, AND WHEN WE GOT THERE SHE WAS SO EXCITED TO WHEEL DOWN THAT RAMP BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN HAVING A LOT OF DIFFICULTIES LE LEAVING HER HOUSE, AND SHE'S A WIDOW, AND SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO GO TO HER BACKYARD, AND SO THE CONTRACTOR WITH YA'LL'S HELP WAS ABLE TO PUT THE OLD RAMP IN THE BACKYARD SO SHE COULD GET BACK THERE AND GET TO HER PLANTS WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS A BIG ISSUE. AND TALKING TO HER, THAT'S EXACTLY THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE WANT TO HELP. SHE BUILT THAT HOUSE IN THE 60S, EARLY 70S, LIVED THERE EVER SINCE, SHE WANTS TO LIVE THE REST OF HER LIFE THERE, AND IT WAS ABOUT MAKING SOMEONE COMFORTABLE THERE AND SHE'S ABLE TO CHECK HER MAIL. SO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS CHECKING YOUR MAIL A LOT OF FOLKS AREN'T ABLE TO DO. SO I KNOW THAT WAS THROUGH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR GRANT; RIGHT? AND SO YOUR TEAM DID A GREAT JOB REACHING OUT TO HER AND COMMUNICATING WITH HER, AND SO JUST REALLY THANKFUL FOR THAT WORK.

ABSOLUTELY. SO, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE PULLBACK ON THE TAX BUDGET -- THE TAX WORKSHOP MEETINGS YA'LL HAVE, AND I THINK THAT WAS ALSO COUNCILWOMAN VIEW GRAN MENTIONED IT WAS A PRODUCT OF HIGH TAX VALUES CHANGING YEAR TO YEAR, 30%, SO I THINK THAT WAS DEFINITELY NEEDED, AND I DON'T THINK WE'LL LOSE TOO MUCH WITH THAT BEING PULLED BACK. I KNOW OUR -- WE HAVE PARTNERS, AND I'M SURE, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY FOLKS WILL DO A LOT OF THAT AS WELL.

I KNOW THEY OFFER THEIR SERVICES FOR THINGS LIKE THAT TOO.

SO I'M GOOD TO SEE THAT. I ALSO DO HAVE SOME CONC CONCERNS, AS COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO MENTIONED WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FEE, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW THE IMPACT OF THAT, AND IF THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE PROJECTS TO ESSENTIALLY HAVE -- TO BE MORE EXPE EXPENSIVE, WE'LL HAVE TO KNOW THAT, SEE WHAT THAT ISSUE IS. SO MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN TALK TO THEM AND SEE WHAT COULD

HAPPEN WITH THEM. >> SURE. I THINK WE'VE CLARIFIED THAT THESE ARE THE FEES -- SO IT'S THE FEE THAT THE CITY CHARGES THE DEVELOPER TO ISSUE DEBT, AND IT DOES GO TO THE HOUSING TRUST, BUT WE'VE ALSO CHARGED THAT TO

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OPPORTUNITY PROJECTS AND OTHER PARTNERS. >> MUNGIA: AND DO YOU STILL

HAVE FOLKS AT THE JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OFFICES? >> WE DO.

WE HAVE STAFF AT EVERY SINGLE PRECINCT COURT. >> MUNGIA: GREAT.

SOMEBODY REACHED OUT AND THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THAT , AND THEY WERE APPRECIATIVE THAT FOLKS WERE THERE AND THEY SA SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY FELT BAD BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE FLOCKED TO THAT TABLE FOR HELP BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY HELP IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE I WOULD SAY PROBABLY CITY, COUNTY, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT HAS PREVENTION OR RENTAL ASSISTANCE HELP AND SO THAT -- WHEN WE TALK ABOUT H HOMELESS SERVICES AND THAT CONNECTION OF PREVENTION IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AND I KNOW, YOU KNOW, MY CONSTITUENT SERVES, DIRECTOR OHANI CALLS YA'LL WEEKLY TO GET HE HELP, SO YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN THERE TO BE COMMUNITIVE AND HELPFUL.

AND EVEN GETTING SOMETHING TO YOU, VERONICA, YOU'VE BEEN HELPFUL.

SO I LOVE THE DEPARTMENT, I LOVE THAT IT'S MAINTAINING THE BUDGET INCREASE A LITTLE BIT. I WANT TO SAY THERE ARE FO FOLKS THAT ARE HERE TODAY TOO, YOU KNOW, VANESSA, SARAH, TC, GABRIEL, WHO I SEE A LOT OF OUR EVENTS THAT DO SO MUCH GOOD WORK, AND I SEE THEM TALKING TO RESIDENTS ONE ON ONE, AND THEY DON'T TRY TO PAWN THEM OFF, AND I THINK THAT'S VE VERY, VERY SPECIAL, SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, THAT AND YA'LL ARE REALLY OUT THERE IN THE

DEPARTMENT, SO THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN, IT WAS GREAT.

>> MUNGIA: SO I WANT TO GET MARC HERE FOR A LITTLE BIT. SO I SAY IT ALL THE TI TIME. MOBILIZATION OF RESO RESOURCES.

THAT'S THE KEY FOR ME. AND I KNOW YOU KNOW THERE'S A MICROSCOPE ON YOU AT PCDC BUT WE WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE WANT TO BE SURE THAT AS YOU'RE SEEING THESE THINGS WE'RE REACTING AND TRYING TO GET YOU THE SUPPORT THAT YOU NEED TO HELP US WITH THAT SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S AN ONGOING CONCERN. I DON'T THINK WE RECOGNIZE ENOUGH OF THE PREVENTION WORK THAT YOU ALL DO; RIGHT? SO WHILE THE NUMBERS MIGHT SEEM STAGNANT, WE KNOW THAT IF WE WEREN'T DOING SO MUCH WORK THAT THE NUMBERS WOULD BE GREATER THAN THEY ARE TODAY AND THAT'S AN UNFORTUNATE FACT OF THE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW. I DO WANT TO -- YOU KNOW WE'LL BE CHECKING -- I WANT TO GET CONSISTENT UPDATES ON THE NEW PILOT PROGRAM YA'LL ARE DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKS AND MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DECOMMISSIONING, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY JUST FO FORCING PEOPLE OUT AND BLOCKING THEM FROM ACCESSING; R? IT'S SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT, AND I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT INVOLVED IN THAT, AND SO HOPEFULLY IT WORKS OUT WELL AND WE CAN REPLICATE THAT ACROSS THE CITY ALSO. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK, YOU CAME TO OUR FAITH-BASED ROUND TABLE, WE HAD A LOT OF DEFLOORED PASTORS COME MAINLY TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO BE SUPPORTIVE, AND THERE ARE A FEW PEOPLE WILLING TO STEP UP WITH THEIR OWN RESOURCES, AND I THINK THAT'LL BE THE KEY FOR AREAS LIKE MY DISTRICT WHERE WE'RE SO FAR FROM DOWNTOWN THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT TYPE OF RESOURCE SO CLOSELY, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT TAKEAWAY, AND I'M SURE YOU'LL BE REACHING OUT TO A COUPLE OF THEM.

>> EXCITED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT, COUNCILMAN, VERY EXCITING.

>> MUNGIA: GOOD. I'M GLAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OH, AND ONE LAST THING, MARC, I'M SORRY. I WANT TO NOTE, AND I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRACKING ON AN ANNUAL OR MONTHLY BASIS THE AMOUNT OF DEATHS WE'RE FACING IN THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE REALIZE HOW MUCH OF THAT HAPPENS AND HOW MUCH OF IT IS BASED ON WEATHER EVENTS, EXTREME HEAT, COLD, FLOODING, AS WE SAW, SO I NEED PEOPLE TO REALIZE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY FOLKS ARE LITERALLY DYING IN OUR STREETS BECAUSE

THEY'RE HO HOMELESS. >> WE CONTINUE TO TRACK THAT NUMBER.

WE DO -- A LOT OF WO WORK -- A LOT OF CREDIT GOES TO SAM MINISTRIES THAT HOLDS THE ANNUAL EVENT AT THE START OF THE YEAR THAT A NUMBER OF US ATTEND, AND SO I THINK CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM AND OTHER MEMBERS IN THE H HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM ON THIS ISSUE SO WE COULD CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THROUGH YOUR COMMITTEE, THROUGH OTHER WAYS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE, AND WHY, I THINK IS ANOTHER

BIG PIECE OF IT. >> MUNGIA: YES. EXACTLY.

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REIMBURSEMENT THEY PROBABLY THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET; CORRECT. >> THAT IS CORRECT, THEY'RE ONLY ABLE TO CAPTURE THE INCREASE PROPERTY TAX INCREMENT FROM THEIR PRO PROJECT, AND THEY ALSO HAVE TO PAY THE FEES ASSOCIATED WITH ADMINISTERING THE TIRZ SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT CAPTURE ALL OF THEIR VALUE.

>> MUNGIA: RIGHT SO THE COST AND STUFF THEY PUT INTO IT, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY

ALWAYS FULLY RECOUP. >> NOT ALWAYS. >> MUNGIA: NOT THAT I NEED THEM TO, ESPECIALLY IN MY DISTRICT WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE SEEN THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PROBABLY SINCE RA RAILSIN WAS BUILDING. THERE WAS A WAVE OF DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA AND THOSE HOMES ARE STANDING BUT THOSE DEVELOPER DID NOT GET EVERYTHING OUT OF THAT PROJECT, WHICH IS FINE, I THINK THEY KNEW THAT GOING IN, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF

FOLKS THAT LIVE THERE NOW THAT HAVE THAT. >> YES.

AND I'LL ADD THAT THE DEVELOPER DOES TAKE ALL THE RISK SO ALTHOUGH THEY MAY HAVE INITIAL COST ESTIMATES FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY HAVE TO COVER OVERAGES AND

THEY MAY NOT GET FULLY REIMBURSED. >> MUNGIA: THANK YOU.

AND I KNOW WE HAD THE REVISIONS ON THE TIRZ AND THAT ADDED THE AFFIDAVITBILITY COMPONENT, AND SO I KNOW THERE'S A BIG EXAMPLE OF THAT WHERE THEY'RE FINALLY USING AFF AFFORDABILITY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THE CHARGE AND GOAL OF OUR TIRZ, NOT NECESSARILY I WOULD SAY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, I WOULD SAY THAT'S DIFFERENT BUT IF THESE TIRZ HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SEE AS MUCH USE AS THERE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST, I THINK WE NEED TO REVISIT THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT, COOL PROJECTS HAPPENING.

I LOVE THEM. THEY'RE FANTASTIC. BUT I ALSO WANT US TO THINK ABOUT THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT FOOTPRINT AND THE MIDTOWN ON HOUSTON STREET FOOTPRINT, AND WHATEVER SCARE MILEAGE THAT IS, THAT TYPE OF DIRECT INVESTMENT HAPPENING IS VERY SIGNIFICANT WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE PROJECTS HAPPENING THERE, BUT WE NEED TO START SEEING THAT TYPE OF LARGE SCALE INVESTMENT IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN THAT REALLY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A TIRZ.

I MEAN, I WOULD LOVE A CITY-INID TIRZ BUT WE WOULDN'T -- I DON'T THINK IT WOULD PENCIL OUT SO MUCH, SO WE NEED TO HAVE MORE DISCUSSIONS ON THAT.

THANK YOU. COUNCILMEM BER KAUR PLEASE.

>> KAUR: THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THESE PRESENTATIONS.

COUNCILMEMBER MUNGIA MENTIONED THE STORMS THAT HIT AND DISTRICTS 5, 4, AND 1 WERE HIT THE HARDEST, WITH MY 5 POINTS NEIGHBORHOOD BEING HIT THE HARDEST, AND WE SAW A SPOT WHERE A MASSIVE OAK TREE FELL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HOUSE, AND THE OWNER WAS IN THE HOME, THANKFULLY SHE WAS SAFE, BUT THE INSURANCE COMPANY IS TELLING HER THEY'RE NOT GOING TO COVER IT BECAUSE THERE'S A TREE AND THERE'S LOOPHOLES THAT THEY HAVE, AND IT'S JUST GOT MENTIONING SO MUCH ABOUT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS ONE OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORHOODS IN DISTRICT 1, AND SIMILARLY I KNOW IS TRUE FOR DISTRICT 5 AND 4 AND HOW A NATURAL STORM WE COULD HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, NO ONE PREDICTED IT, SO QUICK, IS GOING TO IMPACT THOSE THAT I UNDERSTAND SO SIGNIFICANTLY THAT ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO WITH MAJOR MINOR HOME REHAB COULD BE REVERSED IN JUST ONE INSTANCE, AND IT JUST CONTINUES TO MAKE MENTION THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE WITH N NHSD, WE NEED TO DO MORE WITH HOUSING TO ENSURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO HELP THESE FOLKS SO THEY HAVE A SAFE SPACE TO STAY BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HELP THEM ADDRESS THE SITUATION IMMEDIATELY, WE'RE POTENTIALLY GOING TO END UP WITH MORE FO FOLKS THAT MARC IS GOING TO HAVE TO SUPPORT.

AND SO IT'S REALLY, REALLY TOP OF MIND FOR ME. SO MY REQUEST WHEN WE HAVE -- WORKING WITH THE NHSD TEAM FOR THE MIDTOWN TIRZ SPECIFICALLY IS TO COME BACK WITH A PROGRAM FOR FOLKS THAT HAVE EXP EXPERNSED A STORM, LOST ROOFS, LOST SOME ENTIRE STRUCTURES SO THEY COULD GET ACCESS TO SOME OF THOSE FUNDS TO HELP SUPPORT THEM. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR -- IF SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ALSO SUPPORT THAT, FOR US TO EXPLORE WHAT WE COULD DO IN -- THROUGH THE MIDTOWN TIRZ WHEN WE COME BACK TO LOOK AT -- SIMILARLY FOR OTHER PROJECTS, IF THERE'S FUNDING WE COULD ALLOCATE, MAYBE IT'S AN ADD-ON TO MAJOR MINOR HOME REHAB SPECIFICALLY FOR FOLKS THAT CAME OUT OF THE STORM, BUT I KNOW THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR SOME OF MY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE PRETTY BADLY HIT. ALSO, ON -- SINCE WE STARTED OFF TALKING ABOUT THE TIRZ, SEMO ONE OF MY APPOINTEES HAVE BEEN TALKING TO IAN ABOUT OTHER PROJECTS TO DO REGARDING AFF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER MCKEE RODRIGUEZ MENTIONED THAT. ONE OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, AROUND THIS AREA, THERE ARE ONES THAT ARE OLD, NATURALLY OCCURRING BECAUSE THEY'RE OLDER AND IF SOMEONE COMES AND BUYS THEM THEY PURCHASE THEM AND MAKE THEM MARKET RATE BECAUSE THEY'RE PUTTING MONEY INTO THEM. SO I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE THAT CONVERSATION TO SEE IF WE COULD START A PILOT FROM THERE AS WELL TO HELP SUPPORT OLDER COMPLEXES AS NATURALLY HOUSING BUT HAVE IMPROVEMENTS OF CENTRAL

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AND THEN IN ADDITION I KNOW WE'RE SUPPORTING THE CULTURAL CORRIDOR PARTNERS AND EVERYONE KNOWS I LOVE THESE PARTNERS BECAUSE THEY'RE IMPORTANT FOR ANY COMMUNITY, THEY'RE IMPORTANT FOR STUDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS, THEY'RE IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY IN THE SUMMERTIME WHEN WE SEE THE MOST AMOUNT OF SUMMER SLIDE WITH KIDS, FOLKS THAT HAVE ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO GET EXPERIENCES ARE GOING TO DO THAT AND PAY FOR IT, BUT OUR KIDDOS THAT DON'T, THAT'S WHERE WE SEE THE MOST AMOUNT OF CHALLENGE WHEN THEY'RE COMING BACK TO SCHOOL AND HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO EXPERIENCE VERY MUCH OVER THE SUMMER. SO WITH THOSE CULTURAL CORRIDOR PARTNERS I KNOW SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED THEY DON'T HAVE TIRZ BUT AT THE SAME TIME WHAT'S AMAZING ABOUT THESE PARTNERS IS THAT THEY DO HAVE VISITATIONS FROM THE ENTIRE DISTRICT; RIGHT? OR FROM THE ENTIRE CITY, EXCUSE ME, AND SO FOLKS FROM ALL OVER THE CITY GO TO BRAC PARK. I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER ALDERETE GAVITO TALKS ABOUT RUNNING IN THE PARK ALL THE TIME AND RUNNING THERE, ESPECIALLY AT EASTER, AND FOLKS ARE ALWAYS ACCESSING THE ZOO AND THE BOTANICAL GARDENS. THE BOTANICAL GARDENS, 90% OF THE VISITORS ARE FROM THE CITY, THAT'S AWESOME. NOT THE SAME IN OTHER CITIES LIKE SAN FRANCISCO WHERE IT'S ONLY HALF. SO REALLY CREATING STUFF FOR LOCALS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND ENJOY AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE INVESTING IN THEM.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT IT IT'S -- LIKE, THIS AREA OF FUNDING IS BEING DEBATED BECAUSE THE ARGUMENT IS THAT OH IT'S DEVELOPED WE SHOULD PUT THAT MONEY BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND BUT PUTTING IT BACK IN THE GENERAL FUND, IF COUNCILMEMBER WHITE WAS HERE, IS MIGHT GO TO POLICE OFFICERS, MIGHT GET WRAPPED UP IN THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS AND WE COULD TARGET AREAS AROUND THAT COULD MAKE THE CITY GROW AND FLOURISH, AND THAT IS WHY I SUPPORT USING THESE DOLLARS. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPLORE HOW MUCH -- I KNOW IT'S TRICKY BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF CAPACITY FOR A MASSIVE HOUSING BOND BUT WE COULD DO MORE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM THOSE PROGRAMS, AND I KNOW SOME OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES AND I THAT SIT ON THE TIRZ WOULD LOVE TO DO MORE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I LOVE THAT YOU GUYS SUPPORT IT FROM THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE THEY SAY WHERE YOU PUT THE MONEY IS WHERE WHAT YOU CARE ABOUT BUT LET'S USE THE OTHER SOURCES TO AMPLIFY THE WORK AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE ASK SOMETIMES DURING BUDGET SESSIONS WHAT THE BIGGEST BARRIER IS AND OFTENTIMES IT'S THE CITY CAPACITY. WE WOULD LOVE TO DOUBLE MAYOR MINOR HOME REHAB BY TWO BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR STAFF. AND HAVE IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO GET CREATIVE ON SUPPORTING THESE PROGRAMS THROUGH OTHER SOURCES I THINK WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE, LIKE, 1 MILLION OR $2 MILLION THAT COULD BE USED TO SUPPLEMENT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT MANY OF US REALLY CARE ABOUT.

OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO JUST GO OVER TO A COUPLE OF NITTY-GRITTY QUESTIONS. SORRY. I'LL START WITH NHSD.

I DID SEE TWO POSITIONS THAT WERE BEING ADDED TO THE TIF. FIRST OF ALL, I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT -- WHAT IS THE T.I.F. FUND IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE USING IT FOR AT

N.H.S.D.? >> WE CURRENTLY HAVE NINE STAFF THAT ARE PART OF THE T.I.F. FUND, SO IT PAYS THEIR SALARIES AND PAYS, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE GENERAL EXPENSES ASSOCIATED WITH MANAGING THE T.I.F. SOME OF THOSE STAFF ARE IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND THE TWO PROPOSED POSITIONS, IT WOULD BE BRINGING BACK AN ADMIN ASSISTANT IN AN HSC, THERE ARE OVER 20 TIRZ BOARDS, SO MANAGING ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS AND MINUTES AND MAKING SURE WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE BOARD MEETINGS AS NEEDED, AND THEN THE OTHER STAFF MEMBER IS IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

>> KAUR: ARE THE TIRZ SPECIFICALLY PAYING BACK TO BE ABLE TO -- SORRY, TO BE

ABLE TO PAY FOR THOSE POSITIONS? >> YES.

EACH TIRZ HAS AN ADMINISTRATIVE FEE. >> THERE'S AN ADMINISTRATIVE

CHARGE THEY ALL HAVE TO PAY. PAY. >> KAUR: AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENT CHANGE ALSO FOR AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND SYMPTOMS THAT OUR BOND? WHAT IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND THAT WAS LISTED IN THE BACKUP?

>> SURE. SO THE AFFORDABLE HO HOUSING FUND IS FUNDED BY PREVIOUS HOUSING INVESTMENTS, SOME THAT THE TIRZ FUNDED HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY FUND THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FUND, THE FEES WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT, ALL OF THOSE GO INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUS ING FUND, SO PREVIOUS INVESTMENS AND NEW HOUSING INVESTMENTS

NOW FEED THAT FUND. >> KAUR: I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT.

GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT. THE NUMBER OF RENTAL RELOCATION APPLICATIONS, THE METRIC THAT YOU GUYS INCLUDED IN THE FULL BUDGET DOC DECREASED IN TERMS OF HOW MANY WE'RE RECEIVING AND DECREASED IN HOW MANY WE'RE PROCESSING BUT THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS RECEIVING RENTAL RELOCATION INCREASE? WHY DID THAT -- ARE WE CHANGING THE AMOUNT WE COULD PROCESS?

WHAT'S THE LOGIC BEHIND THAT? >> SURE. SO THE NUMBER PROCESSED REFLECTS HOW MANY OUR TEAM IS ACTUALLY ABLE TO TOUCH, AND THEN NOT ALL OF THOSE ARE ELIGIBLE, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF PROCESSED GOING DOWN, THAT'S INDICATIVE WE HAD HIGHER APPROVAL RATING AND HIGHER DOLLARS PER APPLICANT THAT

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BASED ON WHAT THEIR NEED IS FOR RENT AND UTILITIES. >> KAUR: IN THE FOLLOW UP COULD YOU GIVE ME MORE COLOR BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS INCREASING IS UP BY ONE THOUSAND, SO THAT'S GREAT. WE LOVE THAT PROGRAM, BUT THE MATH DOESN'T FULLY LIKE -- IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH ME ON THAT.

>> WE COULD DO THAT. AND PART OF THAT IS DUE TO THE VOUCHER PROGRAM, WE WON'T BE PROCESSING THOSE APPLICATIONS, BUT WE COULD PROVIDE THAT.

>> KAUR: GOT IT. OKAY. I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES MENTIONED ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAX WORKSHOPS I'M GLAD THEY'RE ONLINE BUT I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO PEOPLE THAT IF THEY NEED SUPPORT, THEY'LL GET ONE ON ONE SUPPORT, THOSE WORK WORKSHOPS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE CONSIDERINGS AN INCREMENT INCREASE I DON'T WANT FOLKS TO NOT KNOW HOW TO PROTEST, AND I KNOW ALL OF THOSE FOLKS THAT DID THE PROGRAM WILL BE ABLE TO REMEMBER AND DO IT AGAIN, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T TAKE AWAY SOMETHING WHEN WE'RE ON

THE OTHER HAND INCR INCREASING THEIR TAXES. >> SURE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO

PROVIDE SOME LIMITED 1:1 SUPPORT. >> KAUR: OKAY.

I DON'T LIKE THE LIMITED BUT I WANT TO MAKE SU SURE -- I'LL ECHO AGAIN IF YOU COULD SEND US A FOLLOW UP ON HOW TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT DIMINISHING THAT.

AND THEN OF COURSE HAPPY ABOUT THE MISSING MIDDLE PILOT AND I LIKE COUNCILMEMBER MEZA GONZALEZ ABOUT ZONES AND HOW TO CONNECT THAT WITH E.D.D.

AND THEN LASTLY, I WA WANTED TO REITERATE ON THIS, BUT JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS THEY DID THE MATH A LITTLE BIT SO IF WE DO A DEAL, WHICH GETS US SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 250 AND 300 UNITS, THE COST INCREASES FOR THEM FOR 2500 AND 50,000.

I DO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE CHARGINGS THE SAME FEE TO OTHER FOLKS, BUT THEY COME TO US AND ASK US FOR HOUSING BOND MONEY SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A -- THEY'LL JUST COME BACK TO US IN THE PROJECT AND ASK US FOR $50,000 LATER, SO AND SO IT'S JUST -- I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT. I'LL LEAVE IT THERE WITH HHSD, I'LL BUZZ BACK IN FOR THE SECOND ROUND TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS.

THANKS. >> MAYOR, ONE THING, COUNCILWOMAN, I SAID AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE STORM DAMAGE, WE ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON DEVELOPING A PROGRAM TO ASSIST THOSE AREAS, 4, 5, 1, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF 10, AND WE'LL DEVELOP -- WE'RE DEVELOPING THAT PROGRAM. WE'LL GET -- HAVE SOMETHING TO YOU ALL BY THE END OF THE WEEK, AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT 26 -- FISCAL YEAR 26 AVAILABLE RESOURCES.

I DON'T REALLY WANT TO TOUCH THE FY27 BECAUSE AS SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE SAID, THE LINE IS ALWAYS LONG FOR THOSE RESOURCES. WE'RE LOOKING TO INITIATE TIRZ, AND THEN THE OUTREACH RIGHT NOW ON POTENTIAL STATE AND FEDERAL ASSISTANCE WITH FEMA. BUT WE'LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CHEW ON BY THE END OF THE

WEEK. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER SPEARS PLEASE. >> SPEARS: THANKS, MAYOR, JUST HAD A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS. SO, ERIC, MAYBE YOU ALREADY -- I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN ALDERETE GAVITO ASKED, BUT COULD YOU REITERATE WHY WE'RE DOING FOUR ON SLIDE 17, FOUR OF TIRZ TO 2060 AND WHY THAT WAS -- HOW THAT WAS DETERMINED.

>> WE'RE TRYING TO ALIGN THOSE TIRZ TO END DATES. THE BIG DRIVER -- ANOTHER BIG DRIVER IS HOW WE CAN DEBT ISSUE -- ISSUE DEBT AND PAY THE DEBT OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. WE ARE PROJECTING A 25 YEAR ISSUANCE OF DEBT IN EACH OF THOSE SITUA SITUATIONS, AND THEN THIRDLY, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN FLEXIBILITY FOR THE CITY AND THE FUTURE FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, IF THEY COME ABOUT.

>> SPEARS: OKAY. CANAND THEN CAN SOMEONE SPEAK ABOUT THE BOARD MAKE-UP AND ANY REQUIRED MEETINGS AND SCHEDULE FOR THE TIRZ?

>> SO EACH BOARD HAS A SEPARATE MAKE-UP AND THEY RANGE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 11 MEMBERS PER BOARD AND INCLUDES A PERSON FROM THE PARTICIPATING TAX ENT ENTITY, THE STATE REPRESENT ATIVE USUALLY HAS A SEAT AS WELL, AND THEN THE DEVELOPER AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND THAT IS IN THE DEVELOPER INITIATED TIRZ.

>> SPEARS: I'M CONFLICTED BECAUSE I WAS AT AN HOA WITH A WOMAN WHOSE GRANDMOTHER WAS KILLED IN A COLLISION AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO GO TO THAT AND SEE EVERYONE

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YESTERDAY. IT'S VERY SERIOUS. I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT THESE KIDS GETTING TO SCHOOL SAFELY AND THEN THE CRIME I WAS DEALING WITH A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SO I HEAR YOUR POINT ABOUT THAT THE WHOLE CITY IS USING A LOT OF THESE IMPORTANT AMENITIES IN SAN ANTONIO I MEAN, WE LOVE THESE AMENITIES BUT IT'S SO INCREDIBLY HARD TO LOOK SOMEONE IN THE EYE AND SAY, YEAH, MAYBE FEWER POLICE BECAUSE THIS IS MONEY THAT COULD GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR CORE SERVICE. SO I'M CONFLICTED. I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS.

BUT I DO WANT TO SAY -- THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT TALKED ABOUT -- IN DISTRICT 9 THERE'S NO REQUIRED OUTREACH, NO ONE COMES OUT FOR OUTREACH, AND THE CHURCHES KIND OF -- THEY DO THEIR OWN THING, AND THEN THERE'S UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT SURROUND THAT, AND SO IS THERE -- YOU MENTIONED STRATEGIC ALLIANCE,

ARE THE CHURCHES INCLUDED IN THAT? >> SO THE CITY DOES FUND AN OUTREACH WORKER FOR D9. SO WE HAVE AN OUTREACH WO WORKER THAT GOES OUT EVERY DAY INTO DISTRICT 9 AND DOES WORK. WE'RE WORKING WITH CLOSE TO HOME AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROVIDERS BECAUSE SAM AND OTHERS DO OUTREACH ACROSS THE WHOLE CITY BUT HOW DO WE BETTER COORDINATE THAT? BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

THERE'S ISSUES OF PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS IN D9.

I'VE BEEN OUT WITH THE TEAM BEFORE WHEN WE DO ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS, \SO I WANT\SILVERPOINTED TO MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT, BUT I'M EXCITED BECAUSE I THINK I WAS JUST AT A ROUND TABLE IN D4 THAT THE COUNCILMAN PULLED TOGETHER AND THERE WAS A NUMBER OF PASTORS DOING WORK. ONE IN PARTICULAR, AND I'M BLANKING ON THE NAME, BUT THEY WORK WITH ABOUT 100 HOMELESS FOLKS EVERY DAY.

THEY'RE PROVIDING MEALS, THEY'RE DOING -- THEY WANT TO DO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING WITH THIS PERSON. I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOBILIZE THOSE CHURCHES, AND HOW DO WE ALIGN THEM AROUND THE FRAMEWORK? I THINK THAT'S A REAL MISSED OPPORTUNITY. SO I'M HAPPY TO WORK WITH D9 IF THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, PULL TOGETHER A ROUND TABLE WITH PASTORS IN THEIR COMMUNITY TO DO THAT WORK

BECAUSE THAT'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY FOR US. >> SPEARS: THAT'S GREAT.

AND I WANT TO PLUG AN EVENT THAT WE HOST EVERY YEAR CALLED COATS OF KINDNESS, AND IT IS AN ANNUAL COAT DRIVE FOR THE SHELTER AND FAMILY PREVENTION SERVICES SO WE HOPE WE'LL HAVE MORE AND MORE ENGAGEMENT. THANK YOU.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER CASTILLO,

PLEASE. >> CASTILLO: THANKS. I WANTED TO CLARIFY IN MY COMMENTS REGARDING THE BOTANICAL COMMENTS. I BELIEVE I STATED INNER CITY TIRZ, I WANT TO CLARIFY I MEANT MIDTOWN TIRZ, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, I THINK THERE IS A LOT OF VALUE IN THE CONVERSATION REGARDING THIS PAST WEEKEND'S INCIDENTS, I'M GRATEFUL THAT CITY MANAGEMENT IS EXPLORING HOW WE COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TAR TARGETED EFFORTS IN TERMS OF HOME AND MAJOR AND MINOR REHAB.

I DO THINK BEYOND THE DISASTER, THERE'S VALUE IN MORE COORDINATED INCREASING THE IMPACT FOR MAJOR AND MINOR REHAB AS WE TALK ABOUT DOWNTOWN SPORTS DIST DISTRICT, WHAT WE KNOW BASED OFF OF ANALYSIS FROM OTHER DISTRICTS, SO THAT DOES DRIVE UP, TYPICALLY CODE COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS FOR THE OVERALL STRUCTURE THAT CAN LEAD TO NOTICES TO VACATE AND POTENTIAL DEMOLITION TO HOMES AROUND SPORTS DISTRICTS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY, SO OVERALL, AS WE NAVIGATE THE REGO.

OF DOWNTOWN TO TALK ABOUT DEDICATED FUNDS SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE PFD ZONE.

I KNOW IT'S BROAD, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE THE VALUES AND REAL ESTATE INCREASE. SO GRATEFUL TO SEE THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING.

I UNDERSTAND ON SEPTEMBER 9 WE'LL HAVE THE PARKS BRIEFING, BUT I THINK THIS INTERSECTS WITH NHSD AND THEIR WO WORK; RIGHT? SO LAST BUDGET CYCLE, OUR TEAM WAS ABLE TO SECURE A TREE MITIGATION PILOT PROGRAM THAT HELPED MANY SENIORS ADDRESS OVERGROWN VEGETATION THAT HAD BEEN HITTING THEIR ROOF OR CONCERNS WITH OVERALL

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PROGRAM. >> OKAY. YES, COUNCILWOMAN, AND WE DO THROUGH THE GOOD NEIGHBOR PROGRAM, WE DO ADDRESS TREE MAINT MAINTENANCE, FALLEN PLANTS, REMOVAL OF TREES BUT WE COULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT ESPECIALLY

THROUGH THE PROPOSED EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FUND. >> CASTILLO: THANK YOU, VERO VERONICA. THOSE ARE ALL OF MY COMMENTS.

THANK YOU. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK YOU.

COUNCILMEMBER GALVAN, PLEASE. >> GALVAN: THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST A QUICK QUESTION, I THINK EARLIER COUNCILMEMBER MEZA GONZALEZ ASKED ABOUT THE NEED OOF FINANCING FOR SHIP AND THE LONG-TERM GOALS FOR IT, I HAD A SIMILAR QUESTION I GUESS AROUND BASED ON THE MARKET, WHAT'S THE NEED FOR GAP FINANCING -- MEETING NEEDS FOR DEEPER AFFORDABILITY, I KNOW WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT WITH THE BOND CONVERSATIONS BUT WERE THERE ANY

IN FINANCING? >> SO THAT'LL BE ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE MEETING TOMORROW. FORECAST, THE NEEDS ESPECIALLY FOR A PH PROJECT HAVE BEEN $100,000 PER UNIT TO FUND THOSE PROJECTS. THEY'RE LOWER FOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE MIXED INCOME. IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE PROJECT AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THAT IT'S RECOMMENDING, BUT WE HAVE SEEN, AS WE WENT FROM REQUIRING PROJECTS TO GO FROM 10% SET ASIDE FOR DEEPLY AFFORDABLE, AND ONCE WE INCREASE THAT TO 15% SET ASIDE FOR THOSE UNITS, OF COURSE THE GAP REQUESTS GO UP AND WE HAVE TO REWARD

MORE PER PROJECT. >> GALVAN: GOT IT. ARE THERE ANY PROJE PROJECTIONS TO MEET THE GOAL? ALONG WITH TRADITIONAL HOUSING, ANY AFFORDABLE DEEPER HOUSING

IN TERMS OF A BROAD NUMBER. >> YEAH.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT THAT PART OF THE SHIP REFRESH. >> GALVAN: THANK YOU.

THE OTHER QUESTION I HAD ON THE TIRZ 1. ON THE PRESENTATION SLIDES THEMSELVES WITHIN THE TIRZ PRESENTATION AM I CORRECT IN UNDER UNDERSTANDING, I GUESS, WITH THE -- FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN ON ANY OF THEM I GUESS THE PROJECTED ANNUAL INTEREST, THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WOULD BE -- IF THE TIRZ WOULD NO LONGER EXIST OR TO SCALE IT BACK, WOULD THAT NUMBER BE THE ONE WE RETURN TO THE GENERAL

FUND? >> IN THEORY WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO COVER ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS WITH DEVELOPERS AND PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY PROPOSED.

>> GALVAN: GOT IT. OKAY. BUT WOULD THAT BE THE LINE,

I GUESS, THAT WOULD -- THAT IT WOULD BE COMING FROM. >> THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT THAT THAT TIRZ GENERATES THAT WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE GENERAL FUND, AND THEN THE EXPENSES OF EXISTING AGREEMENTS HAVE TO STILL BE PAID.

>> GALVAN: OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY. I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANYMORE QUESTIONS.

SO THANK YOU, VERONICA. I'LL JUST SAY BRIEFLY ON TIRZ.

OUR DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TIRZ IN OUR AREA, AND SO I DON'T WANT TO BE TOO MUCH ON IT, BUT MY OWN POSITION ON IT, POTENTIALLY KIND OF A BIT OF SKEPTICISM ON TIRZ, OF COURSE APPRECIATING THE ONES IN OUR CITY THAT HAVE DONE GOOD WORK TO DEVELOP SENIOR CENTERS, PARK SPACES, TO DEVELOP SP SPACES THAT WERE HISTORIC VENUES IN OUR COMMUNITY, THINKING ABOUT THE BUILDINGS ON THE WEST SIDE, AN INCREDIBLE PROJECT THAT'S BEEN DONE TO HELP REVITALIZE AN AREA OF OUR CITY.

BUT I GUESS I'M JUST ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT -- WHEN THE MISSION IS ACCOMPLISHED THERE. WHEN IT'S COMPLETED, AND THAT'S ALWAYS SUBJE SUBJECTIVE; RIGHT? FOR THE COMMUNITY NEARBY, ALONG WITH ANY OF OUR GOALS HERE, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO BE COGNIZANT ABOUT THAT GROW ING INCREMENT AND THE POTENTIAL NEED THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE OUR OWN CITY TAX INCREMENT HERE IN THE CITY TO COVER THE EXPENSES THAT WOULD AFFECT ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY TIRZ IN THE AREA WHO ARE STILL STRUGGLING WITH LACK OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR AREAS AS WELL. WHO NEED REHAB AND INVESTMENTS AND SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT ADDRESSED BEFORE TIRZ WERE CRE CREATED, BUT HAVEN'T; RIGHT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, DIFFERENT LEADERSHIP IN THE PAST OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE.

SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IS ALWAYS HITTING ME IN A WEIRD LIGHT THAT I CAN APPRECIATE THE GOOD THAT'S COMING WITH IT BUT I WONDER ABOUT AT WHAT POINT DOES THAT GO BACK TO THE GENERAL FUND TO HELP DELIVER UNIVERSAL SERVICES TO EVERYBODY AND HELP ADDRESS DEFICITS AND ENSURE WE'RE GETTING SERVICES TO FOLKS WHO DON'T LIVE IN TIRZ, DON'T LIVE NEARBY THEM. THAT'S IT.

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THOSE ARE ALL OF MY COMMENTS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THANK

YOU, COUNCILMEMBER KAUR, PLEASE. >> KAUR: THANKS, MAYOR.

I WANTED TO JUST TALK, MARC, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HHSD. ON SLIDE 5, CAN YOU SHARE WHY WE'RE USING THE GAP AND NEED FROM FISCAL YEAR 25, STILL?

IS THAT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T DO OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT? >> COULD YOU ASK THE

QUESTION AGAIN, COUNCILWOMAN. >> KAUR: THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE THAT'S ON.

I WAS WONDERING WHY WE'RE USING FISCAL YEAR 25. >> THAT IS A FULL YEAR OF HMS DATA THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ACCESS IN TIME FOR THE DATA ANALYSIS.

WE WANT TO UPDATE AND BRING BACK PCDC NUMBERS AS WE GET THEM BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WERE

ABLE TO ACCESS. >> KAUR: GOT IT. AND I REMEMBER THAT HM HMSS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING UPDATED IS THAT PROCESS DONE OR WHERE ARE WE

AT? >> I WOULD HAVE TO WRAP AROUND IN TERMS OF THE UPDATES BECAUSE THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING TO BE UTILIZED SO WE'LL PROVIDE

IT IN THE FOLLOW UP MEMO. >> KAUR: GREAT. BECAUSE THERE'S SOME GEO LOCATION INFORMATION I WAS LOOKING FOR IN TERMS OF STREET OUTREACH IMPACT, SO ONE OF THE THINGS -- THIS IS GOING TO MY NEXT QUESTION, THE METRICS WE'RE USING, I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE METRICS FOR STREET OUTREACH TEAM IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH -- THE GOALS WE'RE SETTING FOR THEM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A GOAL OF HOW MANY FOLKS WE'RE GETTING IN A SHELTER BUT IT'S A COMBINED GOAL, AND SO I KNOW THE SERVICES ARE COMBINED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND BE ABLE TO SEE SOME IMPACT FOR THE STREET OUTREACH TEAM VERSUS THE DELEGATE AGENCY PARTNERS BECAUSE IT HELPS US KIND OF BETTER UNDERSTAND OUTCOMES; RIGHT? SO -- BUT I KNOW WE NEED TO DO THAT WITH THE NEW SYSTEM THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO TAG THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE TALKED TO, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE LOCATION -- WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, SO IF YOU GUYS COULD LET ME KNOW WHEN THOSE UPDATES ARE HAPPENING.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT. >> WE WILL AND I THINK PART OF IT IS ALSO MAKING IT EASIER FOR US TO TRACK WHERE A PERSON WAS AND WHAT THEY DID IN A PARTICULAR DAY.

>> KAUR: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. FOR THE ENCAMPMENT DECOMMISSIONING PILOT, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I THINK YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF THINKING ABOUT INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS BECAUSE WE KNOW ENCAMPMENT COST CLEANUP AFTER CLEANUP IS A THING, HOW ARE YOU DETERMINING WHICH AREAS WILL GET THAT PILOT?

>> SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE, FREQUENCY OF AB ABATEMENTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY COSTS THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH IT SO START THE PILOT, COUNCILWOMAN, WE'RE LO LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN ENCAMPMENTS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THINGS LIKE FREQUENCY OF ISSUES RELATED AROUND THE ENCAMPMENTS, SOME AREAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE IN YOUR DISTRICT, AND WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AROUND THAT, SO THAT IS SOME OF THE CRITERIA, BUT WE'VE GOT SOME CRITERIA BUILT UP IN OUR SOP THAT WE'LL FOLLOW UP AND SEND YOU SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT THE FULL

CONSIDERATION IS. >> KAUR: THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

AND ALSO IF YOU HAVE AREAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

>> GREAT. YES. >> KAUR: AND THEN IN THE METRICS -- THE METRICS THAT YOU GUYS ARE TRACKING FOR THE YEAR, THE NUMBER OF UNSHELTERED CLIENTS THAT ARE MOVING INTO SHELTER OR HOUSING THROUGH CENTRALIZED SHELTER COORDINATOR, THAT IS DECREASING WHAT IS THAT C.S.C.?

>> C.S.C., WHAT DID WE CALL THAT? CENTRALIZED SHELTER COORDINATION, SO FUNDS THAT THE CITY PAYS TO HAVENNEN FOR HOPE THAT PROVIDES CENTRALIZED FUNCTION FOR HOUSING AND SOME OF IT DEPENDS ON HOUSING AND SUPPLY ACCESS TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE INTO, BUT WHAT WE WERE FINDING WAS THAT OUTREACH WORKERS DIDN'T HAVE A CENTRAL LOCATION SO EVERYBODY WAS TRYING TO

FIGHT FOR THE SAME RESOURCE. >> KAUR: YEAH. 600 TO 764 AND THEN DECREASED TO 650. SO IF YOU COULD FOLLOW UP ON, LIKE, WHERE THOSE -- I WAS MAYBE THINKING IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE LOW BARRIER SHELTER GOING OFFLINE BUT I

WASN'T SURE. >> WE'LL FIND OUT. >> KAUR: OKAY.

AND THEN THE LAST THING IS ON SLIDE 11, WHICH IS THE BACKUP SLIDE, WHAT ARE THE

CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE INCLUDED ON THIS SLIDE? >> THE CAPITAL PROJECTS RIGHT NOW IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS THE RFP THAT WE WANT TO PUT OUT TO INCREASE

EMERGENCY SHELTER CAPACITY AND DAY SHELTER CAPACITY. >> KAUR: OH, GREAT.

OKAY. AND THAT'S IN OUR BUD BUDGET, OUR CAPITAL BUDGET

FOR THIS YEAR? >> CORRECT. PROPOSED.

>> KAUR: GREAT. WONDERFUL. I MISSED THAT.

>> SO WHAT WE WOULD DO, COUNCILWOMAN, IS IF APPROVED, WE WOULD PUT AN RFP OUT IN THE STREETS AND ANTICIPATE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT LATEST FALL OF

27. >> KAUR: GREAT. AND IF YOU COULD PULL THAT SLIDE BACK UP. ONE CLARIFICATION, THE DELEGATE AGENCY DOLLARS PROPOSED TO BE REDUCED IN 2028 THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THESE ONES BECAUSE THIS IS

TO HAVEN AND -- THAT'S CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> KAUR: OKAY. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE? YEAH.

OKAY. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS THE -- THESE FUNDS

WERE SEPARATE. >> HAVEN AND CAMPUS PARTNERS, COUNCILWOMAN,.

>> KAUR: OKAY. THANK YOU. HAVEN AND CAMPUS PAR PARTNERS SO I WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTIVE AT LOOKING AT TIRZ FUNDS TO DETERMINE THE IDEA THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING AB ABOUT, WHICH IS MULTIMODAL -- NOT MULTIMODAL

-- LIKE. >> MODAL HOUSING. >> KAUR: YEAH.

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THANK YOU, ALL RIGHT, THANKS, MAYOR. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THAT'S IT? OKAY. ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OKAY. THANK YOU, AGAIN TO THE STAFF FOR THE VERY HE HELPFUL PRESENTATIONS AS WE LOOK AT ALL OF THESE, WHICH HAVE KIND OF A DIFFERENT TIME FOCUS ON THEM, BUT WHAT'S TOP OF MINE IS JUST WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND. SO ERIC, AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO -- AND I KNOW THE WHOLE COUNCIL DOES LOOK FORWARD TO SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS AS WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR -- WE'RE IN EL NINO SEASON, NOAH HAS INDICATED THERE'S A 363% CHANCE IT'LL STRENGTHEN TO AN EL NINO, SO WE WANT TO BE THOUGHTFUL ABOUT WHAT ALSO MAY BE ON THE HORIZON.

LET ME START WITH MARC, PLEASE. THE DAY WORK PILOT, I THINK THAT I READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN DENVER, IT'S PRETTY EXCITING. CAN WE USE READY TO WORK MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT VERSUS

THE GENERAL FUND? >> I DON'T KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN -- MAYOR, EXCUSE ME, WE WOULD HAVE TO EXPLORE THAT OPTION, WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO GOODWILL THIS WEEK IN TERMS OF WHAT CAPACITY THEY HAVE BUT WE'LL EXPLORE IT.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: I APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE WHEN WE MEN MENTIONED GOOD WILL, WE DO JOB PLACEMENT, AND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD QUALIFY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE UTI UTILIZING READY TO WORK IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU. I ALSO HAD BREAKFAST THE OTHER DAY WITH EDVANOS AT UNIVERSITY HEALTH, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE LOOKED AT OR DISCUSSED WAS REALLY MAKING SURE THERE'S A TIGHT CONNECTION BETWEEN CERTAINLY THE CITY'S EFFORTS BUT ALSO GETTING THEM REGISTERED IN CARE LINK; RIGHT? SO THERE'S A GOOD ACCOUNTING BECAUSE AS WE ARE, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATING FOR YOURSELVES BOTH AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL, WE NEED THAT DATA.

SO IF -- WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT EITHER, YOU KNOW, THE OUTREACH TE TEAMS, BUT ALSO THE DELEGATE AGENCIES THAT WE'RE FUNDING THAT ARE WORKING IN THIS SPACE, IF WE NEED TO -- I'D WELCOME UNDERSTANDING IF WE COULD JUST INCORPORATE IT AS PART OF THE CONTRACT THAT THEY HELP US IN THAT REGARD AS WELL.

AS WELL. I WAS ALSO SPEAKING TO ONE OF OUR DELEGATE AGENCY RECIPIENTS THAT WORKS IN THE HOMELESS SPACE. CAN YOU -- AND, YOU KN KNOW, AGAIN I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE TIME THAT I WAS ABLE TO GO OUT WITH YOU AND YOUR TEAM, YOUR OUTREACH TE TEAM, EVERYTHING FROM AN ABITMENT TO SOME OF THE ENCAMPMENTS AND UNDERSTAND THEIR WORK AND YOUR, YOU WERE PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES ON THE TEAM ORGANICAY AS A RESULT OF REALLY BEING CHALLENGED WITH HIRING THE RIGHT LEVEL OF MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDER FOR YOUR TEAM.

SO CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU DETERMINE THAT IT SHOULD BE CITY STAFF THAT DOES SOMETHING VERSUS MAYBE SOME OF THE DELEGATE AGENCIES

THAT ALREADY HAVE THAT CAPABILITY BUILT? >> WELL, I THINK IT'S A BOTH AND, MAYOR. WE HAVE THE CAPACITY ON OUR STAFF RIGHT NOW WITH SOCIAL WORKERS THAT A ARE -- OUTREACH WORKERS. THE QUESTION FOR ME IS HOW DO WE BETTER UTILIZE THE CLINICAL EXPERIENCE IN THE WORK WE'RE DOING, BUT CLEARLY, LIKE, IN THE STREETS APPLICATION, IN THE SA HILL APPLICATION THERE ARE OUTSIDE PROVIDERS THAT WE'LL BE -- WE'LL NEED TO ACCESS THE CENTER FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES AND THE CLINICAL SERVICE THEY HAVE FOR BEHAVIORAL HEALTH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING THIS -- THE LANE WORK WITH SYSTEM PAR PARTNERS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS THAT DO BETTER WORK THAN WE DO, WHY WOULDN'T WE ACCESS THEM.

SO IT'S A BOTH AND. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND THOUGH WHY WE WOULDN'T ASK A DELEGATE AGENCY TO DO MUCH MORE. SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S A BOTH AND. AND I COULDN'T AGREE MORE, BUT HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE RIGHT DISTRIBUTION IS SO THAT IF WE ONLY HAD A HANDFUL OF FOLKS DOING THE OUTREACH BUT RATHER USING THOSE FUNDS FOR THE DELEGATE AGENCY THAT HAVE THE WHOLE SUIT TOTAL WENT AND RESOURCE S WE NEED, IF THAT'S A WHOLE ECONOMIC APPROACH AND EFFECTIVE APPROACH GIVEN THE RESOURCES THEY HAVE ACCESS TO, SO HOW DO YOU DETERMINE

WHETHER WE SHOULD DO IT OR WHETHER THEY SHOULD DO IT. >> WELL, I THINK IT'LL BE ONGOING. ONE, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE EVALUATION OF OUR EFFECTIVENESS INTER INTERNALLY. AND THEN LOOK AT CAPACITY, I THINK SOME OF THE DELEGATE AGENCY ORGANIZATIONS WE WORK WITH HAVE CAPACITY UP TO A POINT AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT ARE THE OUTCOMES THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE RELATED TO WHETHER IT BE OUTREACH, COMMUNITY CONNECTIONS, HOTLINE, CASE MANAG MANAGEMENT, ET CETERA. SO I THINK IT'S A -- FIRST IT'S AN EFFE

EFFECTIVENESS ISSUE AND THEN IT'S A CAPACITY ISSUE. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY.

AND I'D APPRECIATE SOME REFLECTION OF THAT, TH THEN, IN YOUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES, HOW WE UNDERSTAND R.O.I. FROM THE STAFF DOING THAT WORK VERSUS FROM THE DELEGATE AGENCIES. THANK YOU. THANKS, MARK, I APPRECIATE

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BUDGET? >> YES. ABSOLUTELY, MAYOR.

THE TASK FORCE IDENTIFIED ALONG WITH COUNCILMEMBER KAUR THE NEED FOR MISSING MIDDLE AND DIVERSE HOUSING TYPES, SO THAT IS PART OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

IT ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT WE DO, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, NEED TO LOOK AT WAYS THAT WE STREAMLINE HOUSING, BUILDING HO HOUSING, REDUCING TECHNICAL COSTS TO BU BUILD, SO THAT IS PA PART -- IT IS INCLUDED IN OUR HOUSING POLICY TEAMS WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING AND OUR COORD COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM THAT WE WORK WITH THE HOUSING COMMISSION, THEY SET UP AN ENTIRE SUBCOMMITTEE, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED A CONSULTANT THAT'S BEING PAID FOR BETWEEN OUR TEAM AND THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT TO HELP FUND THAT CONSULTANT WORK TO REALLY GO THROUGH THE CODE AND IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE BARRIERS ARE. SO THERE'S LOTS OF THAT WORK THAT'S ALREADY INCLUDED IN THIS AD ADOPTIVED -- IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

THE FUNDS WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE FROM THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND INTEREST WILL HELP FUND ADDITIONAL PRESERVATION AND PROTECTION OF HOUSING WHICH IS SOMETHING THE SPECIAL HOUSING SUPPLY TASK FORCE ALIGNED A PART OF AND PART OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR WHEN WE COMPETITIVELY BID THOSE FUNDS ARE THEY

PROPOSING HOUSING FOR ANY OF THOSE SPECIAL POPULATIONS? >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY.

THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT. ONE OF THE GREAT BY-PRODUCTS OF THE SPECIAL SUPPLY HOUSING TASK FORCE, AND SPEAKING WITH ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS, JUSTIN AT THRIVE IS THE WORK THEY'RE NOW DOING WITH SAN ANTONIO, THE HOUSING TRUST ON THE HOUSING FOR OUR LGBTQ YOUTH SO IT'S GREAT THE PROJECT WILL COME TOGETHER, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY REQUESTING ANY CITY FUNDS AT THIS POINT WHICH IS AN AMAZING SOLUTION; R? PUT THE GOOD IDEA TOGETHER, NOT REQUESTING ANY MONEY AT THIS POINT, SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO KIND OF LEARN -- IDENTIFY THE LESSONS LEARNED FROM THEIR APPROACH AS THEY MOVE FORWARD, I KNOW THEY'RE NOW IN FUNDRAISING MODE, BUT THEY WERE -- HE WAS VERY CLEAR TO SAY THEY HAVE NOT COME TO THE CITY RATHER FOR RESOURCES, SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN UNDER UNDERSTANDING HOW ELSE WE COULD SUPPORT THAT KIND OF MODEL. ON THE DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES IN PARTICULAR, THOSE SET ASIDE TO HELP WITH EVICTION, THE $100,000 AND THE 300 SOME ODD FOLKS THAT ARE BEING HELPED, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE SCALE OF THIS AND WHAT WE KNOW NOW, AND FRANKLY WHAT WE ANTICIPATE, NOT ONLY GIVEN THIS ECONOMY, BUT ALSO THE CUTS, MEDICARE, MEDICAID, CHIP, AND SNAP, THE LAST STAT, ABOUT ONE IN EVERY 1 IS RENTER HOUSEHOLD IN BEXAR COUNTY HAD AN EVICTION FILED AGAINST THEM IN 2024. I THINK WE NEED TO DO MUCH MORE HERE TO HELP OURSELVES, EITHER WE HELP YOU OR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HELP MARC KARMONA AND HIS EFFORTS HE HERE. SO ESPECIALLY WHEN LOOKING AT THE NUMBER OF 51% OF OUR RENTERS, COST BURDEN, ME MEANING THEY SPEND 50% OF THEIR GROSS ON HOUSING, AND I HAVE TO IMAGINE, UNFORTUNATELY, SOME OF THE FOLKS MOST IMPACTED BY THE STORM OVER THE WEEKEND ARE IN EITHER ONE OF THOSE TWO CATEGORIES, SO I WOULD LIKE US TO UNDERSTAND -- AND, LOOK, I THINK IT'S ADMIRABLE THAT WE HAVE THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IN PARTICULAR, AND I'M -- YOU KNOW, I'M THANKFUL FOR WHOEVER ENVISIONED THAT. I THINK, THOUGH, WHEN WE HAVE VERY FEW RESOURCES AND WE KNOW WHERE THE GREATEST NEED, I THINK WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE MOST VULNE VULNERABLE. SO I WOULD WELCOME KIND OF YOUR ASSESSMENT OF THE IMPACT OF UTILIZING ALL OF THAT DOWN PAYMENT ASSIS ASSISTANCE, THAT $1.5 MILLION, AND UTILIZING THAT FOR EVICTION PREVE PREVENTION.

ARE THERE OTHER WAYS IN WHICH THAT MONEY COULD BE USED OTHER THAN LEGAL AID?

WHEN IT COMES TO EVICTION PREVENTION? >> THE 100,000 OR?

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: WELL, THE 1.5. >> SOME OF THAT IS HUD FUNDING, SO IT'S FLEXIBLE HOW WE UTILIZE THAT HUD FUNDING.

THE HUD SET ASIDE I THINK IT'S AROUND -- THAT'S HUD FUNDED SO IT HAS TO HELP PEOPLE UNDER 80% AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT $100,000 OF EVICTION PREVENTION DOLLARS, THAT'S THE DIRECT WELFARE STANCE

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STAFF SUPPORT THAT'S HELPING SUPPORT THOSE FAMILIES. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY.

THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE SCALE, THOUGH, WE SAW 15,796 TOTAL EVICTIONS IN BEXAR COUNTY JUST IN 20 THAT, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY CAME TO THE CITY FOR ASSISTANCE OR HOW MANY OF THOSE WE WERE ABLE TO HELP IN THE PROCESS

OR HELP NOT BECOME CONVICTED AS A RESULT OF OUR EFFORTS? >> SURE.

WE COULD PROVIDE THAT IN THE FOLLOW UP INFORMATION IN EXACTLY HOW MANY OUR TEAM HELPED AS WELL AS OUR PARTNER, AND THEN LOOKING AT THE PERCENTAGE THAT WE

ACTUALLY RESOLVED NOT JUST ASSISTED. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. THESE -- AS YOU KNOW, THE EVICTIONS AFFECT NOT ONLY THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING, BUT ONCE YOU'RE EVICTED YOU'RE NOW NOT ABLE TO QUALIFY FOR FEDERAL HOUSING ASSISTANCE; RIGHT? AND IT LIMITS YOUR ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE A COURT RECORD. SO I THINK THIS IS JUST MONEY WELL SPENT WHEN WE THINK ABOUT EVICTION PREVENTION AND, AGAIN, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, WONDERFUL, BUT YOU'RE A CERTAIN KIND OF PRIVILEGE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUYING A HOME VERSUS SOME OF THE FOLKS WE REALLY NEED TO HELP IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU FOR BR BRINGING THAT BACK TO U US.

I WOULD, SIMILARLY -- I SHARE THE CONCERN WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES.

I THINK THE PROPERTY TAX WORKSHOPS, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY, SO I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO LOOK AT RESTORING THOSE OPTIONS ON WHERE WE COULD GO TO RESTORE THAT, AND IF THE TIRZ IS ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO OFFER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. >> OH, I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU. OH, I'M SORRY. YOU'RE TIRZ TOO.

THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS OVER THE WEEKEND THAT MADE ME THINK ABOUT THIS BOND. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DO N NOT -- CONTRARY TO WHAT SOME BELIEVE, I DO NOT HAVE A PERSONAL ISSUE WITH THE BOTANICAL GARDEN, I DO THINK THEY'RE A COMMUNITY TREA TREASURE, I DO REMEMBER GROWING UP RAISED BY A SINGLE MOM AND WHEN WE HAD TIME, WE DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN PLACES THAT CHARGED A FEE, SPENT TIME AT THE JOHNSON LIBRARY, AND SO I THINK ABOUT THE WAYS WE INVEST THE PROPERTY TAXES WE COLLECT AND HELP AND SERVE THE MOST FOLKS AND THAT KIND OF BASELINE PRIN PRINCIPLE; RIGHT? AND THEN WHEN WE LOOK AT THEN THE THINGS THAT ARE FUNDED WITH THOSE PROPERTY TAXES, THEN I THINK IT IS FAIR TO HAVE A MORE STRATEGIC DISCUSSION WHEN WE ARE LOOKING, NOT ONLY AT, FRANKLY THE RESILIENCE THAT IS CLEARLY NEEDED ON THE WEST SIDE, WHEN WE'RE ALSO -- I MEAN, I WAS JUST ON THE RIBBON CUTTING AS WELL FOR THE CHEST, WHICH IS THE GREAT PROGRAM THAT DR. ADRIANNA ROCHA GARCIA LEADS, AND SO IT'S HARD TO THINK ABOUT THESE PROGRAMS, ANIMAL HOSPITAL AT THE ZOO, I'M SURE THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING, BUT WHEN YOUR LIFE EXPECTANCY IS 20 YEARS LOWER WHEN YOU LIVE SOUTH OF 90 VERSUS NORTH OF THAT, THEN IT'S FAIR TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE PRIORITIZING THE MONEY THAT WE COLLECT IN THE INTEREST OF ADDRESSING THESE INEQUITIES.

AND I ALSO RAISED THIS IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT WE HAVE SAID THE T.I.F. WOULD DO, AND IT'S NOT -- I WOULD WELCOME UNDERSTANDING KIND OF HOW WE HOLD OURSELVES TO THOSE THINGS BECAUSE, I ME MEAN, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE TALKED ABOUT USING THE CITY INITIATED TIRZ RESO RESOURCES FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THAT'S IN FACT SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY IN THE T.I.F. POLICY; RIGHT? SO WELCOME UNDERSTANDING -- A COUPLE OF THINGS BECAUSE UNLIKE SOME OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, THIS PRESENTATION -- UNLESS I MISSED IT, IT DOESN'T COME WITH PERFORMANCE OUTCOMES AND METRICS AND MEA MEASURES; RIGHT? THOUGH THERE ARE CLEARLY SOME POLICY OBJECTIVES THAT WE WANT TO ACCOMPLISH WITH TH THIS, AND I THINK THEY'RE NOBLE AND THEY'RE ALL THINGS THAT WE ALL AGREE WITH IMPORTANT, DECREASING INCOME SEGREGATION BY SUPPORTING MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT, I WELCOME UNDERSTANDING HOW WE KNOW WE'RE ADDRESSING THAT. AGAIN, NUMBER OF THINGS IN HERE THAT REALLY SPEAK TO WHAT IT'S DESIGNED TO DO, SO US HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WELL WE'RE DOING THOSE THINGS SO THAT WHEN IT DOES COME TO EXTEND THEM, IT'S NOT JUST, WELL, WE'VE GOT MORE PROJECTS. WELL, OKAY, BUT YOU KNOW AGAIN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE THINGS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE REASONS THESE COULD BE INITIATED AND WHY SOME OF THESE WEREN'T ORIGINALLY INITIATED WAS TO

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SO HOW -- WHAT IS THE WAY THAT THE TIF STAFF ADDRESSES OR HELPS US SCORE OR ASSESS HOW WELL THE T.I.F. INVESTMENT S ARE MEETING THE STATED OBJECTIVES FOR THE POLICY.

>> SURE. WELL, ALL OF THE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY EACH BOARD AND THEN OF COURSE THEY COME TO CITY COUNCIL BUT WE DO WORK CLOSELY WITH DEVELOPERS TO IDENTIFY JUST HOW MANY MILES OF STREETS OR SIDEWALKS WERE IMPROVED, SO WE DO HAVE SOME METRICS THAT WE TRACK BASED ON WHAT T THE -- WHAT EACH TIRZ IS DOING AND THE PROJECTS APPROVED, AND WE SHARE THAT INFORMATION BACK WITH THE

BOARD, YOU KNOW, UPON REQUEST. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY.

IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND HOW WELL THEY'RE MEETING THESE POLICIES, THESE POLICY OBJECTIVES, THO THOUGH; RIGHT? PURSUE A BALANCED HOUSING APPROACH FOR HOUSING, INCREASE THE DIVERSITY OF PROPERTY TAXES THROUGH DEVELOPMENT. ENCOURAGES GROWTH WITHIN IDENTIFIED GROWTH CEN CENTERS AND ADJACENT TO FUTURE TRANSIT STATIONS, THE POLICY AND THINGS WE WANT TO DO WITH THESE RESOURCES. HOW WELL DO WE -- ON THE PRO PROJECTS, HOW WELL DO WE ALSO DETERMINE THE ENTITY'S ABILITY TO OTHERWISE FUND THOSE THINGS? AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE -- PART OF THE T.I.F. POLICY IS WE'RE DOING THESE THINGS BECAUSE IF NOT FOR THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT MIGHT NOT COME, SO HOW DO WE ACTUALLY ASSESS THAT. I THINK SOMEBODY BRINGING FORTH A PROJECT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE DONE THAT PROJECT WITHOUT OUR INVESTMENT.

SO COULD YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THAT PLAYS OUT.

>> SURE. EACH PROJECT HAS TO SUBMIT A PERFORM MA AND A DOCUMENT SHOWING EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE PROJECTED TO BRING IN REVENUE-WISE FOR THE PROJECT -- THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE TERM THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING, THE EXPENSES, AND WE DO ANALYZE THAT INFORMATION IN PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR FINANCE TEAM AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO UNDERSTAND IS THERE INDEED A GAP THAT'S BEING REQUESTED, WHAT IS THAT GAP, AS WELL AS WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT BEFORE WE EVEN CREATE THE TIRZ, WILL THE PROJECTED INCREMENT FROM THE PROJECT, WILL IT MAKE SENSE TO EVEN CREATE THE ZONE, WILL THOSE INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES HELP RECOVER SOME OF THOSE EXPENSES AT LEAST TO THE AMOUNT NEEDED IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT PROJECT HAPPEN, AS WAS RA RAISED EARLIER, A LOT OF TIMES THE DEVELOPERS DON'T GET THE ENTIRE MOUNT OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE COST THEY'RE INVESTING, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EACH ZONE TO SEE WHAT IS THE TRUE EXPECTED INCREMENT, AND MANY TIMES, THESE TIRZ ARE NOT A FULL 100% REIMBURSEMENT OF THE INCREMENT, IT'S REDUCED VALUE BASED ON DEBT COSTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THE PROPERTY TAX RATE AS WELL AS NOW WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT RECOVERING THE COST OF CITY SERVICES.

SO ALL OF THAT IS TAKEN FROM THE INCREMENT AND THEN WE LOOK AT WHAT'S LEFT OVER AND THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THE TIRZ, IS THAT ENOUGH TO FILL THE GAP IN ORDER TO MAKE

THAT PROJECT SUCCESSFUL? >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: SURE. AND I THINK THAT'S THAT REALLY SPEAKS TO HOW YOU FINANCE THE PROJECT, BUT I'M ASKING DIFFERENT -- DIFFERENT QUESTIONS, WHICH IS HOW DO WE UNDERSTAND THAT A PROJECT WOULDN'T HAPPEN ABSENT OUR FUN FUNDING; RIGHT? AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE PROJECTS PROPOSED, MANY OF THOSE ASSETS HAVE RESOURCES.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR REVENUE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR TOTAL ASSETS, FOR EXAMPLE, THE ZOO HAS A -- AS OF 24, TOTAL ASSETS, $24 MILLION, $50 MILLION, SO THERE ARE ASSETS THERE THAT MAY BE ABLE TO OFFSET THE NEED FOR THOSE RESOURCES SO IF YOU WOULD TO COME BACK AND PROVIDE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP US UNDERSTAND

THAT, THAT WOULD BE HE HELPFUL. >> MAYOR, I THINK VERONICA'S QUESTION WAS TOWARDS THE DEVEL DEVELOPER-INITIATED TI TIRZ, HOW IT RELATES TO PROJECTS YOU JUST MENTIONED IS THOSE AGENCIES, NUMBER 1, THOSE FACILITIES OR PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND EACH OF THOSE CASES, THE CULTURAL CORRIDOR PROJECTS, THEY'RE UTILIZING -- IT'S A MULTIPLYING AFFECT. IT'S A DIFFERENT ANALYSIS IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT, THAT'S OUR ASSET, WHAT'S THE GAIN, HOW DO THEY USE IT TO FUND RAISE

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THEY'VE GOT TO BE ABLE TO MEET THOSE GOALS, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, AND IF WE CAN -- IN THE FOLLOW UP MEMO, WE CAN DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE DEVEL DEVELOPER-INITIATED BECAUSE YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. ON THE DEVEL DEVELOPER-INITIATED IT'S BUT FOR ANALYSIS. WILL THIS HAPPEN? WILL THIS HAPPEN OR NOT? BUT FOR THE DEVEL DEVELOPER-INITIATED TIRZ AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THAT'S THE ANALYSIS THAT VERONICA DESCRIBED.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THAT'S HELPFUL. THANKS, ERIC.

I THINK ON THE POINT, THOUGH, ABOUT HOW WE ARE INVESTING THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE, DO YOU, AGAIN, THE ANIMAL ZOO AT THE HOSPITAL OR SOME OTHER THAN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HELPS ADDRESS THE INEQUITIES AND POLICY OBJECTIVE AS OUTLINED IN THE T.I.F. POLICY. THAT'S REALLY THE HEART OF THIS DISCUSSION.

SIMILARLY -- AND I APPRECIATE IT, IT'S COME UP TWICE, YOU KNOW, BUT THIS IDEA OF WHY IT'S BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE TIMELINE ALIGNMENT ACROSS THE TIRZ.

I UNDERSTAND FOR ISSUING -- ISSUING DEBT RATHER, BUT ONCE WE HAVE SAID -- WE HAVE SAID THIS TIRZ IS ESTABLISHED TO DO THIS THING BY THIS TIME, AND IT'S GOING TO DO THAT, YOU ALMOST -- YOU KIND OF JUST GRADE IT AND SAY, HEY HAVE YOU DONE THAT? AND IF YOU HAVE, THEN WE WOULD ALL ARGUE THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GREAT VALUE THEN IN THAT MONEY COMING BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MIDTOWN TIRZ, IF IT'S EXTE EXTENDED -- MY UNDERSTANDING, IF IT'S EXTENDED, THERE'S GOING TO BE -- WHEN YOU TAKE OUT THE PROPOSED PRO PROJECTS, THERE'S $511 MILLION LEFT FOR OTHER PROJECTS; IS THAT

CORRECT? >> YES. AND THAT DOES INCLUDE

ALREADY DEDUCTING THE COMMITMENS THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: YEAH.

SO WOULD THE -- I MEAN, I'LL JUST STAY ON THIS ONE WHILE I'VE GOT IT.

DO WE KNOW -- AND AGAIN THIS IS THE M.M.D. WE JUST APPROVED FOR JONES AVENUE; IS THAT CORRECT? THIS INCLUDES THAT? OR HAS THE ESTIMATE FOR THAT ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY NEED TO BE REIMBURSED FOR THE

INFRASTRUCTURE? >> IF I SAY YOUR QUESTION, THE MIDTOWN DESIGN EQUITY

OFF MIC ] >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: NOT YET.

OKAY. >> BUT THE M.M.D. ITSELF WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL, BUT ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDS OUT OF THE TIRZ TO THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: RIGHT. AND THAT'S HELPFUL BECAUSE WHEN WE INI INITIALLY DISCUSSED TH THIS, THE INTENT WAS HEY IT'S AN ENTITY THAT'S ABLE TO TAX ITSELF, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE A TIRZ ON THE TIRZ; RIGHT? SO YOU'RE ABLE TO TAX YOURSELF TO BE ABLE TO INVEST IN THE INFRASTRUCTURE. IT SOUNDS THOUGH IF I UNDERSTAND IT CORRECTLY, THEN THE M.M.D. WILL COME TO THE TIRZ FOR REIMBURSEMENT FOR SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS. IS T THAT A FAIR WAY OF DESCRIBING IT?

>> WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH JONES THROUGH THE ACTUAL DETAILS THROUGH THEIR PLAN.

FROM MY CONVERSATIONS, THEY'LL BE USING THAT TO FINANCE THE DEBT AND THEN USING THE TIRZ AS WELL TO SUPPLEMENT THE FINANCING DEBT AS WELL.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY. SO SOME CONTRIBUTION FROM THE TIRZ.

>> YES, MA'AM. >> AND ACTUALLY JONES AND LONE STAR, WHICH VERONICA MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION ARE BOTH DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE -- THAT THE STAFF IS WORKING THROUGH THAT ULTIMATELY WILL GO TO BOARDS AND TO COUNCIL BUT WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THAT FINANCIAL ANALYSIS WITH BOTH OF THEM.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: THE -- IN CASE IT HELPS ANY OTHER COLLEAGUES, SO THE LONE STAR, VERONICA WILL ACCESS TWO TIRZ, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE OF MONEY IN THEM RIGHT NOW, WEST SIDE HAVING JUST 25% OF WHAT INNER HAD.

SO HOW DO YOU -- HOW SHOULD WE UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD BE ACCESSED FOR THAT PROJECT?

>> CORRECT, MAYOR, SO THAT PROJECT IS OVER ABOUT 57 ACRES, SO IT DOES FALL WITHIN BOTH OF THOSE TIRZ, SO WE'RE WORKING WITH THE DEVELOPER ON EXACTLY WHAT FUNDS ARE BEING REQUESTED, AND MOST OF IT IS IN THE WEST SIDE TIRZ, BUT THERE IS A PORTION OF THE PROJECT IN THE INNER CITY AND A BIG PART OF THE REQUEST THAT WE KNOW OF TODAY IS CONSIDERATION FOR FU FUNDING, RECONSTRUCTION OF LONE STAR BOULEVARD, THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITY PROJECTS THERE, SO WE WOULD LOOK TO SEE HOW MUCH COULD BE FUNDED OUT OF EACH TIRZ, AND ULTIMATELY, IT HAS TO GO TO

THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL AND CONSIDERATION. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I THINK YOU HEARD US TOUCH UPON IT IN A

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SEVERAL OF THOSE THINGS SO WE COULD UNDERSTAND IT HOLISTIC. >> AND MAYBE SPECIFICALLY

TALKING ABOUT THE THREE CORE PROJECTS. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: IN GENERAL FOR THE TIRZ PROJECTS, THE CI CITY-INITIATED TIRZ PROJECTS.

>> I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ELSE IS GETTING FUN FUNDING -- A VARIETY OF FUNDING,

BUT WE'LL DOUBLE-CHECK. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY. GREAT.

IN TERMS OF SHORTHAND DOUBLE DIPPING, I DIDN'T SEE IT IN THE TIF POLICY, SO I WOULD WELCOME UNDERSTANDING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT GUIDES YOUR WORK.

>> SURE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THAT IN WRITTEN POLICY, BUT WE

CONSIDER EACH PROJECT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY.

FOR CLARITY, LOOKING AT MIDTOWN TIRZ IF THAT WAS NOT EXTENDED TO 2060, THERE WOULD STILL BE RESOURCES FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE I ICT; CORRECT.

>> I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THAT. >> THANKS. >> WE WENT BACK AND DID ANALYSIS ON THE EXISTING TERM BOTH INCLUDING THE IT, DR. AND CULTURAL PARTNERS IT DOES FIT WITHIN THE EXISTING TE TERM, BUT IT'S TIGHT AND HAS A LOT OF RISK AS

WELL. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: IS IT AS TIGHT AS OUR BUDGET?

>> IT'S TIGHTER, YEAH WE WOULD NOT BE ISSUING DEBT, IT'S THAT TIGHT.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: SO IF WE DID NOT EXTEND THE TIRZ, YOU WOULD NOT ISSUE THE DEBT

FOR WHICH PART? >> ANY OF IT. THE BALANCE IS AVAILABLE IN BALANCES AVAILABLE IN THAT CASE ARE IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS, AND WE WOULD NOT

BE ISSUES DEBT WITHOUT THAT SUFFICIENT BACKSTOP. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANDY, THIS MAY BE A LEGAL QUESTION, BUT IT WAS ALLUD ED TO BY SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ALL KNEW IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT, WE COULD.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS DEFINED FOR -- AS PART OF THE T.I.F. POLICY, AS WE KNOW, MANY OF THE FOLKS WHO LIVE IN THE AREA MOST IMPACT ED BY THE STORM, EITHER WORK OR FREQUENT MANY OF THE BUSINESSES IN THE TIRZ THEMSELVES, SO WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE IF THE TIRZ WANTED TO CONSIDER IT OR IF THIS BODY WANTED TO CONSIDER IT, ALLOCATING SOME FUNDS FROM THE TIRZ TO HELP WITH FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WITH

THE -- WITH THOSE IMPACTED BY THE STORM? >> MAYOR, I'LL ANSWER THAT

QUESTION. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: SURE. >> AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ONE OF THE FACTORS WE CAN FUND OUTSIDE THE TIRZ ZONE, AND SO WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT US WORKING ON AN EMERGENCY PLAN, IT WOULD BE UNDER THE AUSPICES OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MINOR AND MAJOR REPAIR, NOT SO MUCH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY. >> SORRY. ANDY.

I JUMPED IN FRONT OF Y YOU. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: UNDEUNDER.

ONE OF THE POLICY OBJECTIVES THOUGH IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND SO IF WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE TRYING TO BE HELPFUL WITH THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IMPACTED WITH DAY-TO-DAY NEEDS AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ARGUMENT BEING IF FOLKS DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY'RE NOT NOT ONLY NOT FREQUENTING THE BUSI BUSINESSES BUT ALSO MORE AT RISK AND IN NEED OF THE SERVICES WE DESCRIBED TODAY. SO IF THE TIRZ WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME, I'LL JUST CALL IT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE FOR THOSE IMPACTED, COULD THEY

DO SO? LEGALLY? >> I'LL TAKE THAT ONE, MAYOR.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: OKAY. >> CONCEPTUALLY YES, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAILOR IT SO IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AND DOES MEET THE CRITERIA IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT

CONCEPTUALLY YES. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: UNDEUNDER. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I KNOW NOT

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OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THE KIND OF INDIVIDUAL LOOK AT THE TIRZ.

DO YOU DO SOMETHING THAT MORE AGATES, VERONICA, THE IMPACT OF EXTENDING THE TI TIRZ, IE FOREGOING THE PROPERTY TAXES TO THE GENERAL FUND.

WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW AS A RESULT OF WHAT OUR PROPERTY TAX VALUES ARE, SO KIND OF WHAT ASSUMPTIONS ARE WE MAKING OF THE AGATE, THE CUMULATIVE IMPACT OF THOSE THINGS LONGER TERM IF WE WANT TO EXTEND THOSE THINGS.

WHAT ASSUMPTIONS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND IN ORDER FOR THOSE TO

BE GOOD FINANCIAL DECISIONS? >> MAYOR, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. SO WE CAN'T GO BACK AND LOOK AT AN AGGREGATE.

I'M ASSUMING IF YOU'RE WA WANTING US TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE IN TERMS OF INCREMENT, THAT COULD BE USED TO BE IN THE GENERAL FUND.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE ASKING? >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: NO WHAT I'M ASKING -- I'LL BE CLEAR. IF WE ARE BEING ASKED TO EXTEND THESE TIRZ, WHICH IS FOREGO PROPERTY TA TAXES, WHAT ASSUMPTIONS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE ABOUT THE STRENGTH OF OUR GENERAL FUND THROUGHOUT THAT TIME AND AT THE ENDING OF THAT TIRZ IN ORDER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND AND HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THAT FINANCIAL ANALYSIS AND WHAT WE'RE SIGNING OUR COMMUNITY UP FOR; RIGHT? WHAT DO WE NEED -- WHAT ASSUMPTIONS ARE WE MAKING ABOUT OUR FINANCIAL SITUATION TO UNDERSTAND THAT FOREGOING THOSE PROPERTY TAXES INTO THE GENERAL FUND IS A GOOD DECISION FOR THE CITY.

>> YES. IN TERMS OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS, LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. WHEN WE LOOK AT TIRZ AND THE GENERAL FUND IN TERMS OF PROPERTY GRO GROWTH, OUR ASSUMPTIONS ARE ALIGNED IN TERMS OF BOTH OF THOSE.

SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR FORECAST, WE'RE LOOKING AT A GROWTH OF -2.7% FLAT NEXT YEAR AND THEN FIVE -- HALF A PERCENT THE FOLLOWING YEAR. THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ARE THE SAME BOTH FOR TIRZ AND FOR THE GENERAL FU FUND. SO IF THE GENERAL FUND PROPERTY TAX VALUES ARE GROWING AT A CERTAIN FORECAST, IT'S ALSO ALIGNED WITH OUR TIRZ. SO REALLY, THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ON BOTH SIDES WITH GENERAL FUNDS AND TIRZ THEY'RE ALIGNED AND MOVING IN TANDEM.

IT'S MORE WITH THE PROPERTY TAX CODES. >> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: YEAH.

I MEAN -- WHAT I'M T TRYING TO GET AT IS HOW DO WE HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE FOREGOING AS A RESULT OF EXTENDING TIRZ MAKES SENSE, LIKE, WHAT ASSUMPTIONS DO WE HAVE TO HAVE -- DO WE HAVE TO MAKE ABOUT THE GENERAL FUND AND ITS STRENGTH OVER THE LONG TERM IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THAT EXTENDING IT MAKES SE SENSE, NOT JUST CAN WE DO IT, BUT REALLY, SHOULD WE DO IT; RIGHT? FROM A FINANCIAL -- FROM A FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY STANDPOINT, AND IF YOU WANT TO COME BACK

TO THAT, COME BACK. >> YEAH. WE'LL HAVE TO DO SOME THOUGHT AND COME BACK IN FOLLOW UP, I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.

>> MAYOR ORTIZ JONES: APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY. ERIC, ANY FINAL COMM COMMENTS? OKAY. THANK YOU, AGAIN, APPRECIATE THE STAFF'S HARD WORK.

TIME IS 12:16. THIS MEETING

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