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ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.UH, IF WE COULD PLEASE HAVE OUR SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETATION SERVICES STATEMENT.
UH, THIS MESSAGE WILL BE ADDRESSED TO SPANISH SPEAKERS.
MY NAME IS JOHN BUSANTE AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
I LIKE TO DO ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT.
MY NAME IS ROB SIPES AND I REPRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN.
JOHN KELLY, REPRESENTING DISTRICT EIGHT.
DANNY KELLUM, DISTRICT ONE, JOHN WITT, DISTRICT 10 MOSES VAL, DISTRICT NINE.
KEN HUI, DISTRICT SIX, GEORGE OSA, DISTRICT THREE.
EDDIE RODRIGUEZ, DISTRICT FOUR ANA MAYOR'S APPOINTEE.
I'M MIA LOS DISTRICT TWO JOINING REMOTELY.
UH, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO REMEMBER NEXT TIME.
WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
BEFORE WE BEGIN OUR HEARING, I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF IF YOU WOULD, BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES.
UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION, YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER.
STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST.
PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY CHECK MARKS WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX WILL INDICATE THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION.
FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION AND ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THEIR REQUEST.
FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING, YOU WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER THAT YOU HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION.
YOU WILL BE INFORMED THAT THE THREE MINUTES ARE UP.
FOR THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF NINE MINUTES.
THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK AND TO PLEASE NOTIFY IF UM, THEY ARE CALLED UP BEFORE YOU.
PLEASE STAND AND LET US KNOW IF YOU ARE GIVING, YOU'RE GIVING YOUR TIME TO THEM.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A THREE MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
AND JUST TO REITERATE, UH, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO SOMEONE ELSE, YOU MUST DO SO BOTH BEFORE YOU SPEAK AND BEFORE THEY START TO SPEAK.
SO UP TO TWO PEOPLE CAN GIVE SOMEONE THEIR TIME.
BUT AGAIN, PLEASE DO SO BEFORE EITHER OF YOU SPEAK.
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STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS? WE DO.ALRIGHT, WHICH ITEM ITEM FOUR IS UH, POSTPONED? ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ITEM FOUR, UH, AT PETRAN ROAD AND SONY PLACE.
UH, THAT ITEM HAS BEEN POSTPONED.
WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE WILL NOT HEAR IT TODAY.
WE WILL HEAR IT AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE.
MAYBE IF WE DO HEAR IT IN THE FUTURE, YOU'LL RECEIVE NOTICE IN THE SAME MANNER AS IF YOU RECEIVED IT TODAY.
SO, UH, MAILER IF YOU LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET, UH, THE WEBSITE, ET CETERA.
BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT GONNA HEAR IT.
SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR THAT ITEM, YOU CAN GO ON AND ENJOY THIS VERY LOVELY FALL DAY.
CAN YOU PLEASE UH, READ THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ON OUR COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE, THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ON THE COMBINED HEARING.
NUMBER ONE CONSENT AGENDA ARE ITEMS 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14,
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AND 15.ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS, DOES ANYONE WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LISTED ON THE COMBINED HEARING CONSENT AGENDA? LOOKING TO MY LEFT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING TO MY RIGHT, SEEING NONE, LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE.
STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER THREE IS CASE Z 2026.
1 0 7 0 1 47 AND IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OFFICE WAREHOUSE FLEX SPACE OUTSIDE STORAGE NOT PERMITTED EXCEPT IN THE I TWO DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 62 30 SOUTHWEST LOOP FOUR.
ZERO OPPOSED HEATHER'S COVE NA AND SPRINGVILLE.
UH, HEATHER'S COVE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN SPRINGVALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
100 701 60 SE RZ DA REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 TO C3 S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CAR WASH OVER THE EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICT WITH ALL OVERLAYS FOR REMAIN THE SAME.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS WITHIN 200 FEET.
1 0 7 0 0 1 6 1 AND IS A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C TWO AND A AND C ONE S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A PARKING LOT NON-COMMERCIAL TO C TWO AND A WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 7 1 7 PLEASANTON ROAD 35.
NOTICES WERE MAILED ONE IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
1 0 7 0 1 7 7 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO L WITH ALL OVER LAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
NOTICES WERE MAILED ONE IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200.
107 0 1 7 9 CD A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C ONE TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A LABORATORY RESEARCH AND TESTING WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 16 1 11 16, 1 15 AND 16 1 19 NACODOCHES ROAD 23 NOTICES WERE MAILED.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
1 0 7 0 180 6 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM I ONE TO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 11 9 2 3 WARFIELD STREET.
22 NOTICES MAIL ZERO IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN 200 FEET.
180 7 A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C3 NA TO RM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 28 43 CASTROVILLE ROAD.
27 NOTICES WERE MAILED ONE IN FAVOR.
ZERO OPPOSED LOS ENES NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND UH, IS IN FAVOR AND THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION GAVE NO RESPONSE.
ITEM 14 IS Z 20 26 1 0 701 88 HL A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM IDZ TWO WITH USES PERMITTED IN C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT HOTEL AND OUTDOOR SPORTS COURT TO IDZ TWO HL WITH USES PERMITTED FOR C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT HOTEL AND OUTDOOR SPORTS COURT WITH ALL OVERLAYS TO REMAIN THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 31 0 1 BROADWAY STREET.
ZERO OPPOSED MANKEY PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT OPPOSED.
1 0 7 0 0 180 9 HL A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM R SIX TO R SIX HL LOCATED AT 1979.
UH, PAP FARM PAP FARMS LANE 36.
ZERO OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
ZERO OPPOSED? NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS? WE DO NOT.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 3 5 6 8 9 12 13, 14 AND 15.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ELL DISCUSSION.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 3 5 6 8 9 12, 13, 14, AND 15 BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VE ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE.
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HUEY AYE.IF YOU WERE HERE FOR ANY OF THE ITEMS 3, 5, 6, 8, 9, 12, 13, 14 AND 15, UH, YOU ARE GOING ON TO CITY COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL.
YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS TO GET TO CITY COUNCIL.
IT SHOULDN'T TAKE YOU THAT LONG.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR SECOND, UH, DOCKET, WHICH IS THE CONTINUANCE HEARING TO OCTOBER 20TH, 2026.
ITEM TWO LOCATED AT 15,838 NORTH US HIGHWAY 2 81 AND ITEM 11 LOCATED AT 75 10 TESLA ROAD ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 20TH, 2026.
ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THOSE ITEMS? WE DO NOT.
FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION.
I MOVE TO CONTINUE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS TO THE OCTOBER 20TH, 2026 HEARING ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER 11.
IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 20TH, 2026 FOR ITEMS TWO AND 11.
ROLL BY COMMISSIONER HUEY WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEMS TWO AND 11, WE'LL SEE YOU IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UH, IF YOU JUST WALKED IN LATE AND YOU WANT TO SPEAK, BE SURE TO CHECK IN WITH STAFF AND SIGN IN.
WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR THIRD DOCKET, WHICH IS CONTINUANCE HEARING TO 11 THREE.
ITEM 10 LOCATED AT 1911 BURNETT STREET IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026.
ALRIGHT, UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THERE IS NOT.
ITEM 10 19 11 BURNETT STREET TO THE, UH, NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING.
LOOKING REMOTELY, SEEING NONE, I REMEMBER THIS TIME.
UM, ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS TO CONTINUE.
ITEM NUMBER 10 TO NOVEMBER 3RD, 2026 BY COMMISSIONER LOEP WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER DUL.
IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM NUMBER 10, WE WILL SEE YOU ON NOVEMBER 3RD.
ALRIGHT, WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL DOCKET.
ZONING PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER ONE IS LOCATED AT 56 12 MONTEREY STREET.
GOING FROM RM SIX RESIDENTIAL MIX DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A COMMERCIAL WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTORS SCREEN AND REQUIRED FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE FROM PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAYS AND ADJACENT PROPERTY WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
SEVEN RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED WITHIN 200 FEET.
THE LOWEST CHARNAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR.
THE LAST PROMISE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID NOT RESPOND OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
WE RECEIVED FOUR IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED.
THE EXISTING RM SIX RESIDENTIAL MIX DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR DEVELOPMENT IS NOT APPROPRIATE WHILE THEY ARE C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL AND C TWO AND A GENERAL COMMERCIAL NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICTS ALONG MONTEREY STREET.
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THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS SITUATED BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.THE EXISTING RX RM SIX ZONING PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION AND BUFFER BETWEEN THESE DIFFERENT LAND USES.
ALTHOUGH THE REQUEST IS FOR COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE TIED TO A SITE PLAN, BOTH THE BASE C TWO ZONING AND THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTORS USE INTRODUCES MORE INTENSIVE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED COMMUNITY STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE.
UH, IF YOU WOULD, SIR, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
UH, I'M THE CO-OWNER OF SOLES VENTURES ALONG WITH MY FATHER HERE.
AND YEAH, WE ARE REQUESTING TO CHANGE IT FROM RM SIX TO C TWO CD AT, UH, SO YEAH, UH, WE'RE A FENCE AND DEBT CONTRACTOR.
WE'VE BEEN DEALING IN SAN ANTONIO FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS, DOING A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL JOBS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN REALLY AMBITIOUS IN THESE LAST THREE YEARS AND HAVE EXPANDED AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED A, UH, LARGER PROPERTY.
'CAUSE AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE WERE JUST OPERATING OUT OF OUR, UH, RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE, UH, PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW FROM THE SATELLITE.
IT'S THE SAME ORIENTATION AS THE SIDE PLAN.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF MATURE TREES AROUND.
I PLAN ON NOT TAKING ANY OF THOSE DOWN.
UH, AND PRETTY MUCH KEEPING IT THE WAY IT IS.
THAT'S, YEAH, THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW.
BEFORE WE PUT UP OUR FENCE, I TOOK THAT ONE TREE DOWN.
AND YEAH, THAT'S WHAT, UH, THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
HOW PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING AROUND THERE IS C ONE OR C TWO AND YEAH.
UH, THE MAIN REASON WE NEED IT IS A BASE FOR OPERATIONS.
UH, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF TRAILERS, UH, DUMP TRAILERS, LARGE TRUCKS, UH, AND YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL ZONES.
UH, I THINK ONCE, ONCE THEY'RE CONNECTED, IT'S CONSIDERED AN EXTENDED VEHICLE.
SO, UH, YOU, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO COMPLY WITH THAT.
AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH, LIKE, UH, AN ONLINE PRESENCE.
YOU KNOW, SINCE IT'S, UH, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING OUT OF OUR RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOMES, UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH A PLACE THAT WE A SEARCHABLE ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE ON GOOGLE OR ANY OTHER, UH, SOURCE ENGINES.
SO THIS WOULD REALLY, UH, HELP US WITH THAT.
YEAH, THIS IS THE AMENDED SIDE PLAN.
UH, IT IS PRETTY MUCH SIDE IS THE SAME ORIENTATION ON THE LEFT SIDE, WHICH IS SEEMS TO BE THE MAIN AREA OF CONCERN.
UH, I HAVE THE 15 FOOT BUFFER WITH THE, OH, THANK YOU.
SEE ON THIS LEFT SIDE WE HAVE THE 15 FOOT BUFFER, WHICH IS REQUIRED WITH THE TYPE B.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND THE BUILDINGS THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON BUILDING, WE WANT TO PUT 'EM ON THE VERY RIGHT SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO BE AS FARTHER, UH, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM THE HOUSES.
AND THEN ON, ON THE BACKSIDE, WE ALSO HAVE A 30 FOOT SETBACK.
THERE'S A, UH, APARTMENT BUILDING BACK THERE.
AND LIKE I SAID, WE UH, WANT TO KEEP THAT NICE AND OPEN, LEAVE ALL THE TREES TO BUFFER OUT ANY SOUNDS OR ANYTHING.
AND YEAH, THESE, THE TWO BUILDINGS HERE, THIS ONE WE WOULD MAINLY BE FOR LIKE PARKING AND STORAGE.
UH, WOULDN'T REALLY BE ANYTHING MUCH GOING ON.
AND THEN THIS ONE WE WOULD WANT TO MAKE IT LIKE A, LIKE A WORKSHOP, PRETTY SMALL SCALE.
WE MAINLY, UH, DO CARPENTRY AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK THE BIGGEST TOOL I HAVE IS A TABLE SAW.
SO WE, UH, REALLY, UH, UH, ALL OF THIS IS TO CONSIDER THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T WANNA, YOU KNOW, COME IN AND START STEPPING ON PEOPLE'S TOES, YOU KNOW, UPSET PEOPLE 'CAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT THE SAME THING HAPPENING TO ME.
SO YEAH, THAT'S WHY WE, UH, PUT EVERYTHING ON THE SIDE, JUST KEEPING IT, EVERYTHING AS FAR AWAY FROM, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL HOMES, KEEPING ALL THE TREES, UH, JUST KEEPING IT, EVERYTHING NICE.
AND YEAH, OUR, UH, OPERATING HOURS WOULD BE PRETTY STANDARD MONDAY TO FRIDAY, 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM LIKE I SAID, I DON'T WANNA BE WAKING ANYBODY UP TOO EARLY.
I DON'T WANT TO BE KEEPING PEOPLE UP AND, YOU KNOW, BE BOTHERING THEM ON THE WEEKENDS.
UM, UH, IT, UH, A LOT OF THIS IS TO BE CONSIDERATE, BUT I, YOU KNOW, ALSO WITH MY OWN GOALS IN MIND AND YEAH, THIS IS THE, UH, THE, UH, THE FROM LOS CARDENAS BECAUSE THE LAS UH, YEAH, LAS PALM, I DON'T THINK THEY OPERATE AT ALL.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEVER GOT A RESPONSE FROM THEM.
UH, BUT I WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, IN CONTACT WITH LOS HARDS A LOT.
UH, FROM WHAT THEY TOLD ME, THEY'RE PRETTY HAPPY THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT A VACANT LOT FULL OF TRASH, UH, ANYMORE.
AND, UH, YEAH, THEY, A LOT OF THEM SEEMED HAPPY WITH IT.
AND I HAD DONE A LOT OF FOOTWORK IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE LEFT SIDE.
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IT BE MOST ARE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES.UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE SOME HOUSES THAT JUST WEREN'T VERY WELCOMING TO, UH, PEOPLE.
THEY ALWAYS HAD THEIR GATES LOGGED, HAD BIG SCARY DOGS OUT THERE.
UH, EVEN THOUGH, UH, THEY HAD THAT, I TRIED MULTIPLE TIMES TO CONTACT THEM.
THERE WERE SOME WHERE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THERE'S ANYBODY LIVING THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, CONTACTED THEM MULTIPLE TIMES.
BUT THANKFULLY WE DID GET SOME PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT CAME OUT, YOU KNOW, WERE PRETTY HAPPY THAT WE WERE OUT THERE.
UH, THEY BASICALLY GAVE EM A FREE FENCE.
THEY WERE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT.
AND LIKE I SAID, THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE THE, THE VACANT LOT ANYMORE, WHICH WAS JUST FULL OF TRASH ATTRACTING, UH, A LOT OF RIFFRAFF.
AND YEAH, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT I HAVE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW, UH, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE'S NOT.
ALRIGHT, MR. SOLIS, BECAUSE THERE'S NO PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WILL NOT GET A REBUTTAL.
UH, BUT THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE, SO IT IS TO ME FOR QUESTIONS.
UM, SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LEFT HAND BUFFER, UH, THAT'S BECAUSE THO THOSE ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES ALONG THE LEFT HAND SIDE, CORRECT? YES, IT'S SINGLE FAMILY.
AND THEN, UH, CLOSER TO THIS RIGHT SIDE, RIGHT HERE, I BELIEVE IT'S, UH, MULTIFAMILY.
AND, UM, AND SO THAT AMENDED SITE PLAN IS WHAT YOU'VE SUBMITTED TO US FOR CONSIDERATION TODAY? YES.
AND YOU'RE AMENDING YOUR REQUEST IN LIGHT OF THIS SITE PLAN? YES, SIR.
NOW, YOU MENTIONED HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
IF I MADE, UH, 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, WOULD THAT BE AN ACCEPTABLE, LEGALLY ENFORCEABLE RESTRICTION ON YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? YEAH, THAT THAT'D BE FINE.
UH, 'CAUSE I WOULD, I WOULD PUT THAT, 'CAUSE WE, UH, A LOT OF OUR WORK IS NOT IN THAT ZONE.
YOU KNOW, WE, UH, BUILD FENCES AT DIFFERENT HOUSES, DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE THERE A LOT OF THE TIME.
UH, IT'LL, WE'LL PROBABLY MOSTLY BE THERE WHEN, WHEN IT RAINS
WELL I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE.
YEAH, YEAH, NO, THAT'D BE GREAT.
THAT WOULD MEAN NO WORK ON SUNDAY, BUT 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
SO WHEN I, UH, TOOK THE MAKE SURE I'M DOING IT RIGHT, I TOOK THE SITE PLAN.
UM, SO THE, UH, I LOOKED ON GOOGLE MAPS AND IT LOOKS, OH, I'M NOT PRESSING THE TALKING BUTTON, SORRY.
UH, I WENT ON GOOGLE MAPS AND I, IT LOOKS LIKE THE CURRENT FENCE ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS CHAIN LINK, UH, THE EAST SIDE BEING OH YEAH, YEAH.
IT'S A CHAIN LINK AND THEN WITH THE WOOD ONE BEHIND.
I MEAN FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEW, UH, JANUARY, 2026, I SEE SOME CHAIN LINK ALONG THE SIDE OF IT THAT THERE'S SOME SECTIONS THAT AREN'T EXISTING WOOD.
UH, I'M TALKING ABOUT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
YEAH, NO, UH, THAT'S THE ONE THAT THE C ONE PROPERTY, RIGHT? THAT HAD NO, NO, SO OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
EVERYTHING AROUND IT HAD CHAIN LINK, UH, FENCES.
SO THE SITE PLAN REFERS TO WOOD FENCE, TALL SIX FEET.
SO THAT, I GUESS A QUESTION TO STAFF, IS THAT A, THAT'S A COMMITMENT FOR THEM TO INSTALL A SIX FOOT WOOD FENCE OR CORRECT.
WHEN THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED AND ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS TO INSTALL SCREENING FENCE BETWEEN NON-RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO THAT DOESN'T, THAT DIDN'T EVEN COME FROM THE SITE PLAN.
THAT'S JUST A REQUIREMENT FROM TO CODE.
UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THE, UM, OH MY GOODNESS, THIS IS A CD SO REMIND ME, I I SHOULD HAVE KEPT THAT CHEAT SHEET.
I FEEL TERRIBLE THAT I, I LOST IT.
I WAS SUPPOSED TO LIKE LAMINATE IT AND KEEP IT IN MIND.
BUT, UM, WITH CDS, CAN WE CONSIDER ADDITIONAL FENCING REQUIREMENTS OR DOES THE CD NOT ALLOW, ARE WE JUST STUCK WITH THE CODE? NO.
UM, WHAT, I MEAN, YOU ARE WELCOME TO MAKE ANY, UM, YEAH, SO LIKE EDITS.
AND I'M JUST SPIT BALLING, BUT THINKING IF I WAS ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, SIX FEET'S REALLY NOT THAT HIGH, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR, YOUR HOUSE IS SET BACK.
UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, IF IT NEEDS TO BE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, THAT'S NO PROBLEM FOR ME.
THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S MY BUSINESS.
BUT ANYWAYS, THAT WAS, THAT ADDRESSES MY QUESTION, SO THANK YOU.
UH, YOU SAID THIS WILL BE YOUR NEW BASE OF OPERATIONS AND THEN YOU MENTIONED DUMP TRUCKS.
ARE YOU GONNA BE STORING TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I HAVE, UH, LIKE A 16 FOOT TRAILER.
I HAVE ANOTHER 14 FOOTER AND JUST A TINY LITTLE TRAILER.
'CAUSE LIKE WE WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, ON DAYS WHERE I WOULD HAVE MY MATERIALS LOADED AND STUFF ONTO MY TRAILERS, I WOULD JUST PARK IT AT MY DAD'S HOUSE.
BUT SINCE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE CONSIDERED, IT WAS AN EXTENDED VEHICLE, LIKE OVER 25, UH, 24 FEET.
YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, AT A RESIDE, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO IT'D BE LIKE A STAGING AREA FOR, UH, ONCE I HAVE A LOADED TRAILER, STUFF LIKE THAT.
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QUESTION.SO I, I'M ASSUMING YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE OUT IN THE FIELD WORKING? YES SIR.
THERE'S, SO THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A BUNCH OF EMPLOYEES? NO, NO.
LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PASS BY THERE EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK AND HEAR ACTIVITY, YOU KNOW.
IT'LL BE TO HAVE OUR, UH, TRAILERS OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE HAVE MATERIAL THAT'S PRETTY LONG WIDE AND UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST STUFF THAT WE NEED, UH, BETTER STORAGE FOR.
AND LIKE I SAID, ON UH, A LOT OF MY WORK IS BASED ON THE WEATHER.
IF IT RAINS, IF PEOPLE EVEN THINK IT'S GONNA RAIN, PEOPLE CANCEL EVERYTHING.
SO THAT WOULD GIVE US A PLACE TO DO SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BE A LITTLE BIT MORE PRODUCTIVE.
'CAUSE YEAH, THERE'D BE, UH, THIS LAST WEEK EVERYBODY LIKE LOOKED ON MONDAY, THE WHOLE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, IT WAS FORECASTED, UH, RAINED THE WHOLE WEEK, EVERYTHING GOT CANCELED.
I DON'T THINK IT ONLY RAINED LIKE TWO DAYS OUT OF THE WEEK.
COMMISSIONER KELLUM QUESTIONS? YES, COMMISSIONER KELLY, I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP IF I COULD, ON THE PARKING FOR THE EMPLOYEES ON THOSE DAYS.
FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU DO HAVE RAIN AND YOU BRING PEOPLE THERE, ARE THEY, WILL THEY HAVE ROOM IN THE SITE TO BRING THEIR OWN VEHICLES INSIDE AREA? YES SIR.
YEAH, I DON'T ANY STREET PARKING.
AND YEAH, IF YOU CAN SEE I'VE LEFT PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF AREA LEFT JUST TO PUT, UH, VEHICLES, ANYTHING I NEED IN THERE, SO, SO WE DON'T, UH, IMPEDE ON THE PUBLIC STREET.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT? QUESTIONS RIGHT? YES.
HUEY, UH, QUESTIONS I WANNA FOLLOW UP ON WHAT COMMISSIONER DEVAL HAD ASKED ABOUT EIGHT FOOT TALL FENCE ON YOUR SITE PLAN.
ON THE EAST SIDE, YOU SHOW, UH, EIGHT FOOT TALL A WOOD FENCE KIND OF GOING ONE THIRD WAY DOWN AND THEN YOU GO TO SIX FOOT TALL WOOD FENCE.
ARE YOU NOW MAKING AMENDMENT TO YOUR SITE PLAN TO GO EIGHT FEET ALL THE WAY THROUGH ON THE EAST SIDE IF, UH, THAT'S WHAT'S REQUIRED? UH, I GUESS, YEAH, IT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT.
UM, I HAD PUT IT THAT WAY ON THE EIGHT FOOT ON THE RIGHT CORNER BECAUSE ON THE BACKSIDE IT ALREADY HAS A, UH, EIGHT FOOT CONCRETE FENCE THAT THE APARTMENT PUT UP, I GUESS.
AND SO THAT ONE'S A MULTIFAMILY, UH, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE, THOSE OTHER TWO MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTS, I KIND OF JUST CONTINUE THAT EIGHT FOOT FENCE.
UH, IT JUST SEEMED TO MAKE SENSE.
SO AGAIN, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, WHEN YOU ANSWERED COMMISSIONER DUVAL, WERE YOU MAKING A FORMAL AMENDMENT TO YOUR SITE PLAN? UH, YEAH.
IF, IF, IF I'M REQUIRED TO DO AN, UH, EIGHT FOOT FENCE, THEN YES, I'LL, UH, DEFINITELY AMEND, UH, AMEND IT.
UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF HE WAS, UH, IF WHAT WE ESTABLISHED RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT IT DOES NEED AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE NOW.
UH, SO I AGAIN JUST I'LL, BUT YES, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT.
SORRY, IT'S THE FIRST TIME DOING THIS.
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO THE RIGHT? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER'S, UH, QUESTIONS REMOTELY.
ALRIGHT, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? LEFT, RIGHT REMOTELY.
BECAUSE THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE THAT GOES TO ME FOR, UH, DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE MR. SOLIS THAT YOU DIDN'T SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING OUTREACH.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU CONTINUED THIS CASE LAST MEETING SO THAT YOU AND I COULD TALK ABOUT A FEW THINGS.
I DIDN'T NOTICE THAT THAT WASN'T AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALL THE WAY DOWN.
UM, AND SO, UH, AND 'CAUSE I'M BLIND, I DIDN'T SEE THAT THERE WAS A SIX FOOT NOTATION LOWER DOWN.
UM, SO, UM, HERE'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE BE USED ON THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT HOURS OF OPERATION BE MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY, 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM ALRIGHT, THAT IS MY MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND? I SECOND I SEC.
ALRIGHT, DISCUSSION TO MY LEFT.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, JUST HAVE A COMMENT.
I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT I FIND IT KIND IRONIC THAT THE ISSUE WAS A OFFENSE FOR A FENCE COMPANY.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER ONE AS AMENDED WITH THE CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD BY ME WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PANA.
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COMMISSIONER OSA? YES.UH, GOOD LUCK AT CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS A RECOMMENDING BODY, BUT YOU ARE GOING WITH A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL WITH THE AMENDMENT AND CONDITIONS AS STATED ON THE RECORD.
ALRIGHT, I I REALLY APPRECIATE IT EVERYBODY.
UH, IF WE CAN GO TO OUR NEXT ITEM PLEASE.
JOEL VELA, PLANNING COORDINATOR WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
ITEM SEVEN IS LOCATED AT 34 60 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE AND IS A REQUEST FROM OUR FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT TO C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
ZERO OPPOSED? THE GREATER FAITH INSTITUTIONAL CHURCH COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH ASSOCIATION NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
FIVE OPPOSED? THE EXISTING R FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE, HOWEVER, THE REQUESTED CONDITIONAL USE AUTHORIZATION FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES USE IS NOT THE STRETCH OF MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE BETWEEN IH 10 EAST AND MARTIN LUTHER KING PARK IS CHARACTERIZED BY THE PREVALENCE OF EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH FRONT THIS SECONDARY ARTERIAL THOROUGHFARE.
EXISTING NON-RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA INCLUDE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE SPACE, CHURCHES, COMMUNITY CENTERS, A PUBLIC SCHOOL, AND A PUBLIC PARK.
NEAR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH APPEAR TO BE OUT OF CONFORMANCE WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE ZONING DESIGNATIONS, INCLUDING A CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR FACILITY AND OUTDOOR OUTDOOR STORAGE USES.
THE PROPOSED MOTOR VEHICLE SALES USE IS A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE OF AN INTENSITY THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY PRESENT WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY THROUGH ANY ESTABLISHED AND CONFORMING USE.
ALTHOUGH AN ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY, EXCUSE ME, ALTHOUGH AN ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME MAY NOT BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS PROPERTY, GIVEN THE ARTERIAL FUNCTION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE ALLOWING A MOTOR VEHICLE SALES USE WOULD INTRODUCE A LEVEL OF HIGH INTENSITY COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY CHARACTERISTIC OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IS PRESENT.
ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HAVE THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE.
AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US YOUR ADDRESS AND THEN TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT.
UM, GOOD EVENING CHAIR COMMISSIONER.
MY NAME IS ANITA JOHNSON AND I'M AN APPLICANT FOR REZONING REQUESTS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
UM, SO I WANNA START BY THANKING THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES STAFF FOR THEIR TIME AND TECHNICAL REVIEW OF THIS CASE.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE STAFF HAS SPECIFIC PLANNING VISIONS FOR THE CORRIDOR, I AM HERE TO TODAY TO PRESENT A PROJECT THAT BALANCES CITY STANDARDS WITH AN ACTUAL IMMEDIATE DESIRE OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY STAFF.
RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL ISN'T BASED ON SAFETY ISSUE, A TRAFFIC OR TRAFFIC VIOLATION OR LACK OF CODE COMPLIANCE.
IN FACT, I'VE ALREADY, UH, SUBMITTED A COMPREHENSIVE SITE PLAN THAT IS A HUNDRED PERCENT UP TO CODE.
UM, WE TOOK SAN ANTONIO'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE REQUIREMENTS.
SERIOUSLY, OUR PLANS INCLUDE FULL COMPLIANCE WITH ALL COMMERCIAL LANDSCAPING, MODERN AESTHETICS, BUFFERING AND PROPER STREET SETBACKS.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR A BLANK CHECK, UH, TO BUILD AN EYESORE.
I'M ASKING TO BUILD A HIGHLY REGULATED CLEAN PROFESSIONAL AUTOMOTIVE SALES BUSINESS TO PROVE OUR COMMUNI TO OUR, OUR COMMITMENT.
WE ARE ENTIRELY, I'M ENTIRELY COMFORTABLE WITH LEGAL BINDING THIS ZONING APPROVAL DIRECTLY TO UP TO CODE SITE PLAN, WHICH I SUBMITTED.
UM, SO ANOTHER THING IS IN BACK OF ME, UH, THERE'S NO HOUSES.
THERE'S NO, LIKE IN 98 THEY FLOODED.
SO THERE'S NO HOUSES BACK THERE EITHER.
AND I FEEL LIKE MY, UM, CAR LOT WOULD BRING, UM, BUSINESS TO THE AREA AND IT'S GONNA BE A SMALL CAR LOT.
IT'S ONLY EIGHT CARS THAT'S ALLOWED 'CAUSE OF THE SIZE OF MY LOT.
SO I'M NOT GONNA HAVE, UH, LIKE THEY, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC, BUT I'M NOT GONNA HAVE TRAFFIC LIKE THAT.
I'M JUST WANNA BRING SOMETHING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY WHERE THERE'S LOW INCOME.
SO I'M GONNA HAVE CARS THAT ARE, UM, REASONABLE FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED SECOND CHANCE WHERE THEY GO TO A BIG CAR LOT AND THEY GET DENIED.
SO, UM, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT I WANNA DO.
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UM, I'M SO, AND THEN I TALKED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, LADY, SHE APPROVED ME.UM, AND SO I WANNA DO IT LIKE WHERE I JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CARS AND A LOT OF IT'S GONNA BE NICE AND NEAT.
I I HAVE PRO, I HAVE PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE.
I ALREADY HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON 2234 EAST COMMERCE.
SO I'M ALREADY EQUIPPED WITH HANDLING, UM, MY NEIGHBORS.
SO I DON'T LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKE ANYONE MAD OR UPSET AND UM, I KEEP A CLEAN ENVIRONMENT.
SO I'M JUST ASKING IF Y'ALL COULD OVERTURN WHAT THE CITY'S UM, MY DENIAL.
I THINK YOU'LL HAVE A BRIEF OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL ONCE WE HEAR FROM SOME OTHER FOLKS.
DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO.
UH, FIRST SPEAKER SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS BARBARA A MOT? ALRIGHT, MS. MOTT, IF YOU'D COME UP, TELL US YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND YOUR THOUGHTS.
UH, AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE YOUR TIME TO ANYONE, PLEASE DO SO BEFORE THEY START TO SPEAK, BUT MS. MT.
MY ADDRESS IS, UH, 25 23 RAVINA, BUT OUR BUSINESS IS AT 34 55 MARTIN LUTHER KING DIRECTLY ACROSS, UH, THE STREET FROM, UH, THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS AFTERNOON I RESPECTFULLY FIRST ASKED THE COMMISSION TO POSTPONE A DISCUSSION AND A FINAL DECISION ON THIS CASE TO GIVE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY ADDITIONAL TIME TO BECOME INFORMED AND PROVIDE INPUT.
I WANT TO, UH, BE CLEAR, I AM NOT OPPOSED TO REZONING THIS PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
I SUPPORT RESPONSIBLE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ENTREPRENEURSHIP ALONG MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE.
OUR CONCERN IS SPECIFICALLY WITH THE PROPOSED USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS A CAR LOT OVER THE WEEKEND.
WE SPOKE WITH NEARBY PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAD ONLY RECENTLY LEARNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED CAR LOT.
SEVERAL EXPRESSED CONCERNS AND OBJECTIONS TO THIS USE AND WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THEIR VOICES HEARD.
THIS PROPERTY IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MLK BUSINESS AND CULTURAL CENTER AND NEAR THE MLK PARK, A SCHOOL, CHURCHES, BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS, AND THE STARTING AREA OF SAN ANTONIO'S ANNUAL MLK MARCH.
WE BELIEVE A DECISION AFFECTING SUCH AN IMPORTANT AREA AREA DESERVES MEANINGFUL COMMUNITY INPUT.
WE'RE NOT ASKING TO STOP DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
A POSTPONEMENT WOULD ALLOW THE APPLICANT, PROPERTY OWNERS, BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS TO MEET, UNDERSTAND PROPOSAL, DISCUSSION CONCERNS AND POSSIBLE SAFEGUARDS AND DETERMINE WHETHER THERE IS A SOLUTION THAT RESPECTS BOTH PROPERTY OWNER AND THE LONGTIME VISION FOR THE MLK CORRIDOR.
SO TODAY WE'RE NOT ASKING THE COMMISSION TO SAY NO, WE ARE ASKING YOU TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD BEFORE SAYING YES.
IF, IF WE DO HAVE QUESTIONS OF SPEAKERS, WE'LL WE'LL ASK YOU BACK UP.
ALRIGHT, NEXT IS AND OR MAAT GREETINGS.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
UH, MY NAME IS, AND OF COURSE IT'S GONNA SOUND LIKE A REPEAT OF MY WIFE, RIGHT? SO Y'ALL JUST BEAR, IS YOUR ADDRESS THE SAME? I'M NOT ASKING ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE, JUST YOUR ADDRESS.
UH, ACTUALLY I PUT DOWN OUR ADDRESS FOR OUR BUSINESS AT 34 55 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPERTY.
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I'M HERE REGARDING THE PROPERTY AT 34 60 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE.AGAIN, LIKE MY WIFE, I REALLY WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR.
FIRST I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
UH, I SUPPORT AS SHE DOES ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ENTREPRENEURSHIP, REALLY BRINGING NEW BUSINESSES TO MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE.
MY CONCERN SPECIFICALLY WITH THE PROPOSED USE OF THE LOT, A CAR LOT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET IS OUR BUSINESS.
MARTIN LUTHER KING BUSINESS AND CULTURAL CENTER WHERE WE OPERATE MARAT BOOKSTORE AND MOORE, SAN ANTONIO BLACK HISTORY TOURS AND COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT NONPROFIT.
THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, WE BRING CHILDREN, FAMILY, RESIDENTS, VISITORS, ORGANIZATIONS INTO THE AREA FOR CHILDREN LITERACY AND BLACK HISTORY PROGRAMS, HOLISTIC HEALTH AWARENESS ACTIVITIES, CULTURAL CELEBRATIONS, COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND BLACK HISTORY TOURS.
NOW THE PROPOSED, UH, PROPERTY IS ALSO NEAR, AS YOU KNOW, MARTIN LUTHER KING PARK, MARTIN LUTHER KING SCHOOL, CHURCHES, BUSINESSES, AND OTHER COMMUNITY INSTITUTIONS.
AND AS ALREADY MENTIONED, THIS AREA HAS SPECIAL SIGNIFICANCE BECAUSE IT IS THE STARTING AREA FOR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING MARCH.
SO IT'S NOT SIMPLY ANOTHER COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, IT'S AN AREA WITH GROWING EDUCATIONAL, CULTURAL, HISTORICAL COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC IMPORTANCE TO THE EAST SIDE AND TO SAN ANTONIO.
NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT PROPOSED CAR LOT MAY INVOLVE FIVE TO EIGHT CARS, BUT MY CONCERN IS, IS GREATER THAN FIVE TO EIGHT CARS IS UH, WHAT DO WE WANT THIS CORRIDOR TO BECOME? WHAT DO WE WANT THIS AREA TO BE? BECAUSE THE DECISION WE MAKE TODAY MAY WELL DECIDE WHAT IT WOULD BE 10 YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, OR 30 YEARS FROM NOW.
SO IF THE AUTOMOBILE SALES PERMITS IS APPROVED, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT SAFEGUARDS BE CONSIDERED LIMITING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES PROHIBITING AUTO REPAIR AND BODY WORK, ESTABLISHING APPROPRIATE STANDARDS FOR LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE, LIGHTING, FENCING, OUTDOOR STORAGE, AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
WE SHOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT A SMALL CAR LOT TODAY DOES NOT BECOME A BIG CAR LOT IN THE FUTURE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR.
LINDA RICHARDSON READINGS TO ALL OF YOU AS UH, AS WELL, IT ALWAYS SCARES ME WHEN I'M, UH, ON A CLOCK I GO TO EVERY FUNERAL THERE IS AND THEY SAY TWO MINUTES.
AND I SAY, WELL THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE ASKED ME TO SPEAK
BUT, UH, MY NAME IS LINDA RICHARDSON AND I HAVE A UNIQUE POSITION, UH, FROM THE FIRST TWO SPEAKERS.
MS. RICHARDSON, WOULD YOU TELL US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? OH, UH, I LIVE AT 32 14 VISTA LAKE.
UH, AND I OWN THE BUILDING AT UH, 34 55 MARTIN LUTHER KING.
I ALSO HAVE A VERY SPECIAL SITUATION IS I WAS BORN ON THE STREET RIGHT BEHIND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED FOR A CAR LOT.
I AM 73 YEARS OLD, SO I'VE BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY THE WHOLE TIME AND I DO HAVE THE PASSION FOR IT FOR MY COMMUNITY.
I ALSO WAS THERE WHEN THEY BUILT, UH, THAT AREA AND I WENT TO SCHOOL ACROSS THE STREET.
NOW WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, UM, WE ARE TRYING SO DESPERATELY TO BUILD UP THAT AREA.
EVERYTHING GOOD, BAD, UGLY HAS HAPPENED IN THE AREA AND NOW WE'RE COMMITTING OURSELF TO BUILDING UP THAT CORRIDOR.
AS Y'ALL HAVE HEARD THERE, TRYING TO TAKE THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB FROM US.
IT, UH, THEY'VE DONE SO MANY THINGS IN MOST OF OUR PROPERTY ON MARTIN LUTHER KING TENDS TO BE RENTAL PROPERTY AND, UH, OWNERS JUST DON'T HAVE THE SAME VESTED INTERESTS.
AND SO WE ARE GIVING UP OUR TIME AND ENERGY TO BRING CULTURE AND ART BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY
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AND STABILITY FOR OUR CHILDREN.WE HAVE PROGRAMS FOR OUR CHILDREN.
WE DO TUTORING AND WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE WANT BROUGHT IN OUR BACK TOWER COMMUNITY TO ENHANCE THESE THINGS TOO.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY, REALLY, I'M ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL TIME FOR US TO CONSIDER IT.
I HAD NO, I WAS NOT APPROACHED.
NOW I'M THERE AND I WAS NEVER APPROACHED BY ANYBODY BY THIS APPLICANT.
THE, EXCUSE ME, THE OTHER PEOPLE WERE NOT APPROACHED.
THAT'S THE PASSIONATE PART BECAUSE I AM THERE AND LIKE I SAY, I WAS BORN AND RAISED THERE, HAVE THE SAME TELEPHONE CELL NUMBER.
YOU GO AROUND THE CORNER, EVERYBODY IS A COUSIN.
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO ALSO KNOW WHO WERE THESE PEOPLE WHO SAID YES, I KNOW.
DID DID THEY BELONG IN THE AREA?
AND WE GAVE YOU ONE MORE MINUTE THAN THE FUNERAL, SO YOU SURE
IT STATED, MY NAME IS JOANNE ROGERS HOWARD.
I AM A RESIDENT AND I DID NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT PREPARING ANYTHING, BUT I DID SUBMIT A LETTER AND I'LL READ THAT TO YOU.
AND I'M FOR THE RECORD, I'M TOTALLY OPPOSED TO THIS.
WOULD YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE? 30.
I DO HAVE A RING DOORBELL AND TRUST ME WHEN YOU RING MY BELL I'M GOING TO ANSWER 'CAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO LET ME, THAT IS MY ADDRESS.
I EVEN BROUGHT MY TAX RECORDS IN CASE YOU WANNA SEE WHO PAID WAS PAID IT FOR IT.
AND AS FAR AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I'M 67 AND A HALF YEARS OLD, I DIDN'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT.
OKAY? NO ONE HAS TOLD US, NO ONE HAS COME TO US.
NO ONE HAS SAID, HEY COMMUNITY, LET'S GET TOGETHER.
AS I STATED, I'M ABSOLUTELY OPPOSED TO THE REZONING AND PROPOSED USE OF THE PROPERTY.
I AM ALSO DISTRAUGHT BY THE MERE REQUEST AND A SUGGESTION THAT THE USE OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED FOR THE USE OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 34 60.
MARTIN LUTHER KING LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 67 AND A HALF YEARS, OTHER THAN 10 YEARS THAT I WAS AWAY, BUT I CAME RIGHT BACK, WHICH IS MY ENTIRE LIFE.
I ACTUALLY WAS BORN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
OKAY? MY HOME IS ACROSS THE STREET.
I LIVE THERE FROM THIS LOCATION.
AND YES, I PAY A WHOLE LOT OF TAXES, WHICH SHOULD PROTECT ME AND ALLOW MY VOICE TO BE HEARD.
A CAR I BEING PLACED HERE DOES NOT ONLY HELP OUR COMMUNITY, IT ALSO BRINGS UNNECESSARY TRAFFIC AND UNDESIRED STRANGERS TRAFFIC DAILY, NIGHT AND DAY.
AND AS I'M SURE YOU GUYS KNOW, IF YOU'RE ADVERTISING A VEHICLE, SOMETIMES YOU'RE GONNA PASS BY, YOU'RE GONNA COME, YOU'RE GONNA LOOK, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE IT BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY KIND DEALS AND YADA, YADA, YADA.
THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY DOES NOT HAVE THIS KIND OF TRAFFIC, STRANGERS TRAFFIC.
THAT IS NOT ONLY, AND I AM, I'M, I'M, I'M NOT NERVOUS, I'M UPSET.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW, I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS FRIDAY WHEN I CAME HOME FROM WORK, WENT TO A MEETING AND WENT TO MY MAILBOX.
THIS IS WHEN I FOUND OUT OCTOBER THE SECOND.
I COULD CARE LESS WHO TALKED TO SOMEONE ELSE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ROGERS.
BUT ONE LAST THING, I HAVE TO POINT THIS OUT.
ALL THE PROPERTIES AROUND THERE ARE MINE.
WHERE ARE THEY GONNA PARK AT IF A THEY'RE NOT GONNA PARK ON MY PROPERTY.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARK THERE.
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HAROLD.I LIVE AT FIVE 19 SUSAN WOOD DRIVE.
UM, I WAS JUST SUPPORTIVE OF THE CAR LOT BEING THERE.
I MEAN FOR SOMEONE GET A, INSTEAD OF GOING AND GETTING A BRAND NEW CAR, THEY CAN GET A, YOU KNOW, USED CAR.
OTHER THAN THAT, WHEN I PASSED DOWN MARTIN LUTHER KING, I SEEN THE ZONE SIGNS.
IT'S SITTING OUT THERE IN THE YARD.
SO EVERYONE LIVING IN THAT AREA SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE.
I MEAN IF THEY HAVE ANY PROBLEM THOUGH OKAY, CONTACT Y'ALL.
I LIVE AT 19 2 0 3 CLASS IN CREST IN SAN ANTONIO.
AND I DO HEAR WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE SAYING ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY, BUT I ALSO DRIVE UP AND DOWN THAT ROAD AND I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, LOTS THAT ARE NOT CUT.
UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES ON THAT ROAD, WHICH NEEDS TO HAVE SOME BUSINESSES.
I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN AND A WOMAN NEEDS TO HAVE A BUSINESS.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO HAVE THIS BUSINESS ON MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE.
AS FAR AS GOING BACK FOR A HISTORY, THIS IS HISTORY TOO.
HISTORY IN THE MAKING OF, FOR, FOR AN AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN TO HAVE A BUSINESS, A CAR LOT.
SHE DOESN'T PLAN ON HAVING ALL THE CARS THERE.
IT MIGHT BE A FEW THERE, SHE'LL BE ADVERTISING ONLINE AND IT'S GONNA BE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WHERE IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT CHILDREN.
IT'S NOT GONNA AFFECT, UH, TOURS.
I'VE, I'VE LISTENED TO YOU ALL AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, I'VE HAD FAMILY THAT LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO.
MA'AM, MA'AM, IF YOU'D ADDRESS THE QUESTION, I'M SORRY.
I'VE HAD FAMILY THAT LIVED IN SAN ANTONIO.
MY FA MY GRANDFATHER WAS A PROMINENT ATTORNEY, OLIVER WILLIAM JOHNSON.
AND I HAD AN UNCLE THAT WAS A TUSKEGEE AIRMAN.
SO I KNOW HISTORY ABOUT THE EAST SIDE, SO I'M FOR IT.
GIVE HER THE OPPORTUNITY AND JUST LISTEN OR HAVE AN OPEN HEART.
I I, I'M JUST LISTENING TO WHAT EVERYONE'S SAYING AND IT'S KIND OF DISCOURAGING.
BUT I ENCOURAGE HER TO MAKE HER MOVE AND, AND TO BRING ON A BUSINESS FOR THE EAST SIDE TO HELP PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD A CAR THAT, THAT SHE'LL BE ABLE TO HELP THEM PURCHASE ONE AND, AND IT'LL BE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY CAN GO TO AND GET IT.
KIM NOLAN, HOW Y'ALL DOING? MY NAME IS KIM NOLAN.
I LIVE IN SLO RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M MOVING BACK TO THE EAST SIDE.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED ON THE EAST SIDE.
IF YOU WOULD JUST GIVE US ONE OF YOUR ADDRESSES.
PROPERTY, YOU OWN PROPERTY YOU LIVE AT 6 0 1 DELMAR 25, UH, 26 59.
UH, EAST COMMERCE 2230 EAST COMMERCE, WHICH IS A BUSINESS RIGHT THERE.
IF IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE, YOU CAN, I CAN GIVE YOU SEVERAL MORE
I CAN GIVE YOU SEVERAL MORE BUSINESS.
I'M FOR THE YOUNG LADY 'CAUSE SHE HAS A BUSINESS RIGHT NEXT TO MINE ON EAST COMMERCE.
UH, SHE KEEPS UP HER PROPERTY REAL WELL.
UM, IT'S BETWEEN POLARIS AND, AND NEW BROWNSVILLE'S.
I'M THE OWNER OF THE, UH, OF THE BUILDING.
I LEASE IT OUT TO A BARBER SHOP AND WE KEEP UP THE PROPERTY REAL WELL.
SHE HAS A BUSINESS RIGHT NEXT TO ME AND ALSO SHE HAS SEVERAL OTHER PROPERTIES AND, UH, SHE'S ALWAYS BEEN A, A GOOD NEIGHBOR, A GOOD BUSINESS OWNER.
SO I'M UH, QUITE SURE SHE'LL DO WELL RIGHT THERE.
PLUS ALL THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR HER BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE ON MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY.
UH, WHEN EVERYBODY COMES AROUND, THEY GONNA SEE THE EIGHT CARS RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT'S THE BEST ADVERTISING YOU CAN GET.
THEY, THEY, THEY MARCH RIGHT PAST HER BUSINESS EVERY DAY.
SO, UH, I'M QUITE SURE SHE'LL DO WELL AND I RESPECT EVERYBODY AND HER NEIGHBORS.
I JUST FOUND OUT YESTERDAY THAT SHE, SHE SAID, I NEED YOUR HELP.
SHE CALLED ME, I SAID, HEY, I'M PRETTY BUSY, BUT I'LL BE THERE AT ONE O'CLOCK IF YOU NEED ME.
YOU ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD BUSINESS OWNER NEXT TO ME.
SO HEY, I'M HERE AND I DO WHATEVER SHE NEED TO BE DONE TO
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HELP HER GET HER BUSINESS THERE.AND BEFORE I GIVE YOU A HISTORY OF THE EAST SIDE, BEFORE IT WAS MARTIN LUTHER KING, IT WAS CALLED NEBRASKA.
SO WHOEVER GREW UP THERE, Y'ALL KNEW IT WAS NEBRASKA.
MR. NOLAN, IF YOU WOULD JUST LOOK AT, USE THE MICROPHONE, NEBRASKA STREET AND I GO WAY BACK ON THE EAST SIDE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE MICROPHONE IS ALL RIGHT EVERYONE, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE USE THE MICROPHONE AND IF WE HAVE ANY OTHER ISSUE, WE'LL HAVE UH, OUR IT SLASH AUDIO VIDEO PEOPLE.
IF WE CAN BRING SOMEONE UP FRONT FROM THERE.
MY NAME IS MARY JOHNSON AND I LIVE AT 5 23 SOUTH POLARIS.
BEEN LIVING THERE 53 YEARS, RAISED ALL MY CHILDREN THERE.
BEEN TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING MARCHES, WHICH I GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND I'M NOWHERE NEAR THE MARTIN LUTHER KING BRIDGE.
I HAVE CARS, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S A CELEBRATION FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING.
MY DAUGHTER, ANITA JOHNSON IS THE PERSON WHO IS TRYING TO OPEN UP A SMALL CAR LOT ON MARTIN LUTHER KING.
I AM A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT MY DAUGHTER, SHE'S AN ENTREPRENEUR.
SHE'S A VERY YOUNG WOMAN AND A BLACK WOMAN AND VERY RESPECTFUL.
AND I KNOW THAT IF SHE'S ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT, UM, SHE WOULD DO HER UTMOST TO KEEP IT IN PROPER CARE.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A MECHANIC SHOP THERE.
UM, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REPAIR CARS.
AND UH, I'VE ACTUALLY KNOW THE AREA REAL GOOD.
SO RIGHT NOW PEOPLE TALK AND I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S OPINION ABOUT IT.
UH, BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK I GET MORE TRAFFIC FROM THE MARTIN LUTHER KING MARCH AT MY HOUSE AT 5 23 SOUTH POLARIS THAN THEY DO WHEN THEY DO THE MARCH DOWN MLK.
BUT I STRONGLY WOULD HOPE THAT YOU ALL WOULD GIVE HER THAT OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO GIVE HER, UH, A CHANCE TO BUILD HER LIFE AND ALSO HELP THE COMMUNITY.
MS. JOHNSON, A BRIEF REBUTTAL IF YOU WANT IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE IT.
UM, NO, DEFINITELY MY SAME THING.
AT THIS POINT THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, SO IT'LL BE TO COMMISSIONER LOOSA FOR QUESTIONS.
AND ALSO, I JUST HAVE TO SAY I REALLY APPRECIATE THE MICROPHONE USE BECAUSE I CAN'T HEAR WITHOUT IT.
AND I WILL ALSO SAY IT'S HARD FORMAT IN TALKING TO THE BOARD AND TALKING TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU.
SO THANKS FOR THE ADJUSTMENT THERE.
UM, I WILL TRY MY BEST TO NAME BASED ON THE NAMES THAT I HEARD.
IF I BUTCHER YOUR NAME, I'M SORRY.
BUT I WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS TO A FEW OF THE FOLKS FROM PUBLIC COMMENT WHO GOT CUT OFF FOR TIME.
UM, THE FIRST ONE WAS, I THINK MR. MO, THE HUSBAND, PART OF THE HUSBAND, WIFE, I, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UM, SOME, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF LIMITS OR DIFFERENT.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH IT.
YOU GOT CUT OFF IN TALKING ABOUT UM, IF THERE IS POTENTIAL LIKE LIMITS ON BODY WORK OR ESTABLISHING CERTAIN HOURS OF OPERATION.
JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO FINISH WHAT, UM, WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY.
BUT I WAS JUST MENTIONING THE FACT THAT IF IT'S, UH, AUTO SALE IS PERMITTED AND APPROVED AT THAT LOCATION, THAT WE WOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES THERE PROHIBITING AUTO REPAIR AND BODY WORK, UH, ESTABLISHING APPROPRIATE STANDARDS, UH, FOR THE LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE, LIGHTING, FENCING, OUTDOOR STORAGE AND HOURS OF OPERATION.
AND THEN I WAS JUST GONNA MENTION, WE SHOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT THE, THE SMALL CAR LOT DOESN'T BECOME A BIG CAR LOT IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN JUST AGAIN TO REITERATE THAT I'M SUPPORT, I'M IN SUPPORT OF REZONING FOR AS MAKING IT A COMMERCIAL ZONE.
I JUST DO NOT WANT TO SEE IT AS A CAR LOT.
AND THEN FINALLY, JUST TO SAY THAT, UH, AGAIN, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA, KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS A HISTORIC AREA FOR THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY AND THAT WE REALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE THINGS THAT WOULD ENHANCE UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE FOR US WITH THE PARKS, THE SCHOOL, THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS, AND THE START OF
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THE MARCH.SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME DOWN.
UM, THAT BRINGS UP A QUESTION THAT I THINK IS EITHER FOR CITY STAFF OR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, IS THE CAR LOT LIMITED TO THE PLAN, LIKE THE THINKING ABOUT SPACE, THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN, IS THE CAR LOT SPACE AMOUNT LIMITED TO THAT? TO THE POINT OF COULD IT EXPAND? CORRECT.
UM, IF SHE IS TO PROVIDE, IF SHE IS TO BE GET THIS ZONING AND IN THE WANTED TO DO THE MOTOR VEHICLE SALES, IT WOULD ONLY BE PERMITTED, UH, ACCORDING TO THE SITE PLAN HERE.
WHICH IS ALLOWING FOR EIGHT CARS AS LONG AS THESE, UH, DIMENSIONS YES.
AND THEN I ALSO WANTED TO INVITE BACK UP THE FIRST SPEAKER, WHICH I THINK WAS MS. MOT.
UM, I, I WANTED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU TO SEE IF YOU ARE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU LIVE ACROSS THE STREET OR YOUR BUSINESS IS ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU HAD NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS BUT WE HAD HEARD, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORT.
SO I WANTED TO JUST CHECK IN IF YOU'RE A PART OF THAT AND HAVE BEEN PART OF THE MEETINGS AT ALL.
UH, NO, I AM NOT A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UH, MY BUSINESS IS AT 34 55 MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE IN THE BUSINESS AND CULTURAL CENTER.
AND UM, I DID NOT LEARN OF THIS, UH, AS OF RECENTLY LAST WEEK.
UM, I JUST MET MS. JOHNSON ACTUALLY IN THE FOYER THERE, SO NO.
SORRY, I'M TRYING TO GO THROUGH MY NOTES.
UM, WANTED TO INVITE BACK UP, UH, MS. HOWARD, THE ONE WHO OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTIES IN THE AREA AND WAS OPPOSED.
JUST WANNA OFFER TIME IF YOU WANNA FINISH YOUR STATEMENT 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU GOT CUT OFF A BIT.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN, THIS IS ONE THING THAT I DID WANNA POINT OUT.
THERE'S ONE ENTRYWAY, OKAY? AND IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE ENTRYWAY, HIGH PEOPLE SUPPOSED TO GET IN AND OUT.
ALL OF MY PROPERTIES SURROUND, I'M SORRY, ALL OF MY PROPERTIES SURROUND THAT.
IF YOU HAVE ONLOOKERS, YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE VEHICLE OR SOMEBODY THAT DON'T WANT TO JUST TURN AROUND, THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE FORCED TO PARK AT MY PROPERTY.
I DON'T NEED TO WAKE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT IN STRANGE CARS OUTSIDE MY HOUSE.
AND THE ONE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY, IT SEEMS AS IF, AND I'M PLEASE FORGIVE ME, IT SEEMS AS IF EVERYBODY THAT HAS SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION FOR NO ONE BUT ME LIVES THERE.
I HAVE NOT HEARD ONE ADDRESS OF ANYBODY THAT IS GOING TO BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED DAY AND NIGHT, THEIR HOME, THEIR SAFETY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULDN'T THINK THAT YOU GUYS WOULD WANT IN YOUR HOME.
ONE ENTRYWAY, THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT.
AGAIN, I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THIS MA'AM, UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT.
AND I AM OFF, I OWN THREE BUSINESSES MA'AM.
SO I KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE TO BE A BUSINESS OWNER.
I MANAGE THINGS RIGHT NOW AND I DO WANT YOUR SUCCESS, BUT NOT AT MY EXPENSE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
AND I DID HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, I KNOW THERE WAS I THINK 21 RESIDENTS IN SUPPORT.
I WAS CURIOUS IF WE COULD, UM, WHICH OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE PART OF THE, I KNOW WE HAVE 200 FEET AND OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET, BUT DO WE KNOW WHICH NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH OF THOSE SUPPORT SIGNATURES ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION VERSUS OUTSIDE OF LIKE, RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, COMMISSIONER, I DO NOT HAVE THAT COUNT FOR YOU, UH, AT THIS TIME.
THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR NOW.
UM, I MIGHT COME BACK AROUND, BUT I APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR NOW.
COMMISSIONER BEL, UH, TO THE APPLICANT IF YOU'D COME UP VERY BRIEFLY? YES.
SO THE, UH, PROPERTY ON, WHAT IS IT? 2 2 8 4 EAST
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COMMERCE STREET.IS THAT UHHUH 2 2 34 IS UH, ALPHA AUTO CENTER? NO.
WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE UH, IT WAS A NITA'S BOUTIQUE.
I HAD A CLOTHING STORE THERE AT 2234.
SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST, UH, CAR LOCK THAT YOU'LL BE OPERATING? YES.
ALRIGHT, FURTHER QUESTIONS TO THE LEFT.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA, UH, COUPLE THINGS, UH, FOR STAFF.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT, MA'AM.
UH, FOR CITY STAFF, I'M JUST CURIOUS, I KNOW S EIS, D'S MLK, UH, ACADEMY'S RIGHT THERE.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE, THEY GOT NOTIFIED 'CAUSE THEY'RE WITHIN THE 200 FEET.
UH, DID THEY SEND A RESPONSE BACK AND DOES THAT RESPONSE GO TO THE ACTUAL SCHOOL ADDRESS ITSELF OR THE CENTRAL OFFICE OFF OF QUINCY? AND I GUESS WHILE, WHILE THEY'RE LOOKING AT UP, LET, LET ME, UH, MISS, UM, THE APPLICANT NOW, WHILE YOU'RE COMING UP, TWO THINGS FOR ME PERSONALLY, UH, I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE THAT I MEET WITH FOR ZONING, NUMBER ONE IS NOT PERSONAL.
UH, NUMBER TWO, THE ZONING CHANGE GOES WITH THE PROPERTY.
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE A BILLIONAIRE.
UH, BUT AT SOME POINT YOU MAY LEAVE TO A BIGGER, UH, AREA, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE GREAT FOR BUSINESS.
BUT THAT PROPERTY WILL BE THERE.
AND IT'LL BE ZONED THAT ZONING FOR UNTIL SOMEBODY WANTS TO PAY THE BIG BUCKS TO CHANGE IT.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I GET THERE.
SO I DO YOU, YOU DON'T CURRENTLY OWN A CAR LOT, RIGHT? NO, SIR.
MY CONCERN, AND I HOPE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THIS IS FOR ME, IF THAT, IF, IF, IF THAT CAR LOT WAS AT A CORNER LOT, YES.
THAT WOULD PROBABLY CHANGE MY MIND OR WEIGH IT REALLY DIFFERENTLY.
IT'S NOT, UM, YOU ARE GONNA HAVE ONE ENTRANCE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT CARS.
UM, HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT, I MEAN, I KNOW EVERYTHING'S GONNA PRETTY MUCH BE ONLINE, UM, BUT ARE YOU GONNA DO LIKE APPOINTMENTS? ARE YOU GONNA JUST, I MEAN, I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE GONNA BE THERE OR SOMEBODY'S GONNA BE THERE, SO THEY'RE GONNA DRIVE BY.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT? TRAFFIC STOPPING RIGHT THERE AT THE MIDDLE OF, OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, SORT OF, AND COMING IN AND ALSO THE SCHOOL WHEN THEY COME BACK.
'CAUSE THE SCHOOL CURRENTLY IS AT A DIFFERENT CAMPUS.
BUT ONCE CONSTRUCTION IS DONE OR COMPLETED, WHATEVER, THEY'RE GONNA DECIDE WHEN THEY COME BACK.
OF COURSE, THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON DROP OFF TIMES.
I MEAN, THAT'S GONNA BE CONGESTED.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S A DROP OFF AREA RIGHT THERE.
SO LET ME KNOW REAL QUICK ABOUT THAT DRIVING AREA.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY RIGHT THERE WHERE MY LOT IS, UM, I CAN'T BE ON THE CORNER BECAUSE, UM, THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET OWNS THAT.
WHICH THEY SHOWED ON THE PROJECTOR WHILE AGO THAT IT'S JUST A EMPTY, THERE'S NO HOUSES RIGHT THERE.
FOR YOUR BUSINESS, FOR YOUR BUSINESS, I MEAN, YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA GOOGLE IT, RIGHT? YES.
AND THEY'RE GONNA COME TO IT, SO THEY'RE GONNA STOP TO TURN IN.
BUT I WILL KIND, I ALWAYS THINK OF THAT STORY.
I ALWAYS TELL MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, YOU BUY THAT BRAND NEW CAR AND YOU GO OUT AND YOU GET A
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT COMES TO MIND.
BUT LET ME ASK ANOTHER QUESTION TO YOU.
UH, WHAT KIND OF OUTREACH DID YOU DO? UM, WHAT YOU MEAN? WHEN I WENT TO GET THE PEOPLE? WHO DID YOU LET KNOW? WHO'D YOU KNOCK DOORS? SO WHO'D YOU WALK? OKAY, SO, UM, I KNOCKED ALL THE SIGNATURES I GOT EXCEPT FOR TWO.
WERE NOT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT EVERYONE ELSE WAS LITERALLY ON STERLING BEHIND ME ON MLK.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT I, UH, PROVIDED THOSE PAPERS RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO THEN, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SHE HAS A MEETING EVERY THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH AND EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOWS THAT.
AND I DID EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THE CITY TOLD ME TO.
AND REAL QUICK AND REAL QUICK, JUST 'CAUSE WE'RE TIMED, RIGHT? MM-HMM
UH, WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS THAT? UM, WITH MS. ROSA ROSE.
DO YOU REMEMBER THE NAME OF THAT NAME? WILSON.
UM, I CAN'T, YEAH, IT, I HAVE A LETTER FROM HER RIGHT THERE.
IS THAT FROM THE, WAS IT THE GREATER FAITH? YEAH.
UM, SO I MET WITH HER LIKE I WAS SUPPOSED TO AND, AND I'M SORRY.
AND PEOPLE AND DID YOU ACTUALLY ATTEND A MEETING OR A BOARD MEETING? YES, I, I DID TWO AND I DID AN EMERGENCY.
AND JUST QUICK, HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE AT THE MEETING? I'M JUST CURIOUS.
UM, SO SHE DOES IT ONLINE TOO, SO EVEN IF PEOPLE COULDN'T COME, SHE DOES IT.
I'D LIKE TO OH, SO TO THE, I THINK IT WAS LIKE SIX PEOPLE THERE.
AND THEN THE REST, SHE ALWAYS DOES IT ONLINE.
SO YOU CAN LOG IN THROUGH FACEBOOK.
UH, STAFF DID, DID Y'ALL FIND ANYTHING ABOUT THE S-E-I-S-D? UH, YES, WE DID SEND NOTICE TO S-E-I-S-D TO THEIR, UH, QUINCY LOCATION.
UM, UH, MS UM, UM, OH, AND, UH, STAFF, I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY MY LAST QUESTION.
UH, THE, ALL THE ADDRESSES THAT MS. UM, HOWARD HAD STATED, ARE THOSE WITHIN THE 200 FEET? THOSE WERE WITHOUT,
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THEY'RE THEY'RE OUTSIDE.THE, FROM THE, UH, APPLICANT OR FROM ONE OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS? ONE OF THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
I BELIEVE SHE'S, I, I APOLOGIZE.
THOSE ARE WITHIN THE 200 FEET? YES, THEY ARE WITHIN.
ROGERS, HOWARD? UM, WE JUST, THE, THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE OWNERS AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ALL MS. JOANNE, THEY'RE VARIOUS OTHER PEOPLE.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CLARIFICATION THAT SHE ACTUALLY IS AGENT STATUS FOR THEM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE, ALRIGHT.
UH, COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ, PLEASE.
UM, MS. JOHNSON, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS, UH, AUTO REPAIR.
UM, SO MY QUESTIONS GONNA BE, WHAT OTHER BUSINESS IS GONNA BE CONDUCTED THERE? WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GONNA DO? UM, SO I ALREADY TALKED WITH THE CITY AND THEY SAID THAT THAT'S NOT ALLOWED THERE.
SO I TOLD 'EM, NOT GONNA DO THAT.
I HAVE A AUTO, UH, PERSON THAT'S ON, UM, FOSTER ROAD THAT WILL DO ALL MY REPAIRS THERE.
SO THIS IS STRICTLY JUST FOR AUTO SOULS, THAT'S ALL YOU'RE GONNA DO? YES, SIR.
SECOND QUESTION WOULD BE QUESTION.
HOW MANY CARS ARE YOU, I HEARD EIGHT, BUT IS THAT THE LIMIT? YEAH, EIGHT'S THE LIMIT.
UH, WHAT ABOUT EMPLOYEES OR WHO'S GONNA PARK? LIKE, UH, PROBABLY Y'ALL HAVE LIKE TWO OR THREE? DEPENDS.
WOULD THEY BE, WILL SHE BE ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO OR THREE EXTRA CARS THERE OF THEIR EMPLOYEES ON ADDITION TO THE EIGHT THAT ARE GONNA BE FOR SALE? SO THE SITE PLAN SHOWS EIGHT PARKING SPACES DOES NOT DISTINGUISH BETWEEN WHETHER THOSE ARE FOR CARS ON DISPLAY OR FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING.
THERE'S JUST EIGHT TOTAL PARKING SPACES ON SITE.
BUT IT IS NOTED IN THE, UM, STAFF REPORT THAT ANY, UH, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES IS ONE PARKING SPACE PER 500 SQUARE FEET OF THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF THE SALES, UH, SALES BUILDING.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE GOING IT BASED OFF OF THE, UH, BUILDING SIZE THERE.
SO WILL THOSE EMPLOYEES BE ALLOWED TO PARK ON THE PROPERTY? OF COURSE THEY CAN, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO ENFORCE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
I MIGHT HAVE MINIMUM LESS CARS, UH, ON SITE IF I HAVE EXTRA WORKERS INSTEAD OF EIGHT, I MIGHT HAVE ONLY FIVE.
SO I CAN HAVE FOR MY UM, SO THAT'S GONNA REDUCE THE NUMBER OF CARS THAT SHE CAN HAVE FOR SALE PRACTICALLY? YES, CORRECT.
AND WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION? SO THAT I'M GONNA WORK ON, BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE, UM, A NUISANCE TO THE SCHOOL 'CAUSE IT'S NOT THERE NOW.
SO I NEED TO SEE WHAT THEIR HOURS ARE SO I CAN WORK AROUND THAT.
I DON'T WANNA HAVE ANY, YOU KNOW, JAMMED UP TRAFFIC.
SO, AND THEN I'M GONNA TRY TO DO A LOT ONLINE.
SO SOME OF THE CARS, PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA HAVE TO COME THERE.
I WILL DELIVER TO THEM IF THEY WANNA PURCHASE IT.
UH, STAFF IS THERE A WAY TO AMEND THIS TO WHERE SHE CAN HAVE EXTRA VEHICLES FOR EMPLOYEES? ALSO, PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA COME IN THEIR OWN CAR TO VIEW ONE OF THE CARS THAT ARE FOR SALE.
SHE'S GONNA NEED THAT EXTRA SPACE.
I MEANT THE, BASICALLY THE SITE PLAN IS ALREADY TO THE CAPACITY OF THIS LOT.
I CAN'T IMAGINE, I DON'T KNOW HOW IF SHE COULD EXPAND ADDITIONAL PARKING UNLESS SHE GOES ONTO ANOTHER PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED.
WELL WHAT ABOUT IN FRONT OF THAT BUILDING? THAT IS INTENDED TO, TO, IF SHE WANTS TO REDESIGN, BUT SHE WOULD HAVE TO, ANY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE COMPLIANT TO ANY OF, UM, BUILDING CODE OR TRAFFIC CODE.
SO THE DESIGN COULD BE REALLY DIFFICULT WITH PEOPLE BACKING OUT AND MANEUVERABILITY.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT? YES.
COMMISSIONER PANA FOR THE APPLICANT.
SO GOING BACK TO THE PARKING, IF YOU HAVE SPACE FOR EIGHT, YOU SAID YOU WOULD HAVE TWO TO THREE EMPLOYEES.
DO YOU EXPECT TWO TO THREE EMPLOYEES TO BE THERE AT THE SAME TIME? NOT REALLY.
I REALLY THINK I JUST REALLY NEED ONE ACTUALLY.
AND YOU WOULD BE DOING THE PURCHASING AND THE SELLING ONLINE? UH, YES.
NOT GOING PHYSICALLY TO AN AUCTION NECESSARILY? NO.
I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO AN AUCTION, BUT LIKE SOME OF THE SALES WILL BE ONLINE.
WELL, I WANNA DO MAJORITY ONLINE.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M SORRY, CAN YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? THANK YOU.
UH, DO YOU INTEND TO HAVE TEMPORARY SIGNAGE? LIKE THOSE LITTLE CRAZY UH, UH, WINDMAN WALKING AROUND? NO.
I'M JUST GONNA GET LIKE ONE SIGN THAT THEY APPROVE ME TO THE SIZE, WHATEVER, AND I'M GONNA HAVE THAT UP SO I DON'T PLAN TO HAVE WEIRD, LIKE
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LIKE THE LITTLE BLOWING MAN AND ALL PEOPLE.
SO I DON'T THINK I NEED ALL THAT.
ALRIGHT, NEXT TIME AROUND THE HORN.
I HAVE, I THINK THIS IS A STAFF QUESTION.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND
WELL, THEY ARE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW YOU CAN USE THE LAND.
UM, SO THE REQUEST IS FOR C TWO CD WITH CAR SALES SPECIFICALLY.
THINGS AROUND, LIKE WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, UM, COMMISSIONER HUEY THE SIGNAGE AND SOUNDS LIKE IT'S VERY SPACE LIMITED, SO I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THE BODY WORK RESTRICTION IS NECESSARY, BUT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR STAFF TO JUST GO THROUGH THE OPTIONS OF WHAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THIS GIVEN THE, GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES? I, WELL OUR MOST TYPICAL ONES ARE LIKE HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, FENCING, ANY KIND OF DESIGN ASPECT LIKE LANDSCAPING, UM, TRYING TO SEE HERE.
ALSO NOISE, OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION.
I WAS GONNA SAY OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, UH, LIGHTING, UH, THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES THAT YOU GUYS TYPICALLY REVIEW.
WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? WELL, THAT, THAT IS HELPFUL.
I, I'M, I THINK I'M CURIOUS TO TRY AND FIGURE OUT SOME OF THE HOURS.
I GUESS MAYBE IF I CAN BRING THE APPLICANT BACK UP.
I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T TOTALLY FIGURED OUT HOURS OF OPERATION AND TRYING TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL NEARBY.
BUT TO MOVE FORWARD HERE, IF WE, YOU KNOW, OFFER A, A POSITION, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT SPECIFIC, WE MAY HAVE TO PUT SPECIFIC HOURS OF OPERATION ON.
SO, UM, JUST CURIOUS WHAT YOU'D BE OPEN TO FOR HOURS OF OPERATION.
MAYBE LIKE, UM, BETWEEN NINE AND TWO, SO LIKE AROUND THREE O'CLOCK, LIKE I'M DONE.
SO I DON'T, UH, WITH THE TRAFFIC, PEOPLE GETTING PICKED UP FROM SCHOOL KIDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND THEN MOST OF, LIKE I SAID, WILL BE ONLINE, SO I CAN DO THAT AFTER HOURS.
I THINK, I THINK I'M GOOD ON QUESTIONS.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO, TO, UM, GET THE CHAIR'S ATTENTION IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, COMMISSIONER, UH, IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE UNDER SECTION 35 DASH 4 22, IT TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT CONDITIONS FOR CONDITIONAL ZONING REQUESTS.
UM, AND SO THERE'S A LIST THERE.
UH, AND IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, SO YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE LIGHTING, HEIGHT, LIMITATIONS, SETBACKS, LANDSCAPING RELATED TO SCREENING, UH, BUFFERING, UH, INGRESS, EGRESS HOURS OF OPERATION, SIGNAGE, UH, PARKING AND LIKE BUILDING FACADE LOCATION IN RELATION TO LIKE A ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL THING.
I WAS JUST PULLING UP THE UDC, BUT UM, MY COMPUTER COULD NOT TAKE, IT'S A, IT'S A BIG DOCUMENT, SO
UM, I'M ALL, ALL GOOD ON QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER LO QUESTIONS TO MY LEFT? YES, COMMISSIONER, UH, VILLE FIRST AND THEN WHAT'S IT, UH, TO STAFF LOOKING AT THE, UH, MAP Y'ALL PROVIDE US IN THE STAFF REPORT? I SEE, UH, 3 4, 4 2 3 4 4 6 3 53, 4 6, 2 3, 5 0 2.
SO MUCH OF THE UH, FACING ON MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE IS ZONED, OR AT LEAST PART OF IT IS ZONED C3 R.
SO CURRENTLY COULD THE APPLICANT HYPOTHETICALLY DEVELOP THE PROPOSED CAR LOT ON ANY ONE OF THOSE OTHER LOTS THAT ARE ALREADY ZONED C3 WITHOUT HAVING TO COME FOR APPROVAL HERE? THOSE THREE LOTS ON THE CORNER WOULD BE PERMITTED THAT USE? CORRECT.
WHAT ABOUT THE 34 62, 35 0 2, 35 0 6, THEY'RE, YES.
IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PART C TWO.
YEAH, THEY'RE, UM, WELL, THE C3 NA SECTION, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DO IT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE C TWO NA WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED.
SO YEAH, THAT'S, SO, UH, THIS AREA'S NEVER, I TAKE IT NEVER HAD A LARGE AREA REZONED TO, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
AND, UH, DID THEY ALREADY COMPLETE THE, UH, ESSAY TOMORROW PLAN UPDATE FOR THIS AREA? NO.
WHAT'S UP? HE COVERED PART OF MY QUESTION, BUT THE OTHER WOULD BE, YES, THERE IS, ON ONE SIDE THERE'S R FOUR, WHICH THERE'S A HOUSE THERE.
UH, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT FENCING AS TO SOLID SCREEN FENCING.
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UH, ON HERE NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL PHONE PROPERTY? YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T SEE IT ON THE SITE PLAN, CORRECT? RIGHT.UM, WHEN THEY GO TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY, SITE PERMIT, DEVELOPMENTS ARE ISSUED, THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS I INSTITU BY THE STANDARD CODE.
SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ON THE CD SITE PLAN IN THAT CASE? UH, NOT STRICTLY, NO, THAT'S ALL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
WHAT'S IT QUESTIONS? TO MY LEFT, TO MY RIGHT? YES.
UH, MS. JOHNSON, UM, I KNOW THE, I KNOW YOU SAID, UH, THE HOURS OF OPERATION YOU WERE THINKING 92.
WOULD IT HELP YOU IF YOU COULD GO A LITTLE LONGER? UH, YES, I WOULD WORK WITH WHATEVER Y'ALL RECOMMEND OR SO EV EVERYTHING BE SAFE FOR EVERYONE, THE KIDS AND MYSELF AND MY, WELL THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS YOU GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WORK TILL FIVE O'CLOCK AND RIGHT.
MAYBE THEY WANT TO GO TEST DRIVE A VEHICLE AFTER WORK MM-HMM
ALRIGHT, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS TO THE RIGHT? YES.
UM, MS. JOHNSON, UM, AGAIN, UH, YEAH, MY, MY BIGGEST MY BIGGEST, UH, HOLDBACKS ARE GONNA BE, I THINK THE COMMUNITY IS, IS RESPONSIVE.
THEY WANNA WORK, THEY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND FORTH AND YES, AND THIS WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT THING TO KINDA MAYBE CONTINUE THIS SO THAT THEY CAN, THAT Y'ALL CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.
I, I, I JUST HAVE, AND I, I'LL, I'LL SAY THAT AT THE COMMENT PART LATER ON, BUT IT'S REALLY, REALLY, UM, THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION, BUT IT'S A VERY EASY DECISION FOR ME.
I, I JUST THINK THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES.
UM, AND I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT I, I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T, UM, YEAH, THAT WAS HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
THAT'S NOT A GOOD HOURS OF OPERATION.
I MEAN, I THINK THIS PLACE IS JUST TOO SMALL FOR YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
BUT ANYWAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. JOHNSON.
ALRIGHT, MS. JOHNSON, STAY UP THERE.
I HAVE, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU,
ARE YOU WILLING, IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THIS CASE, TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS YES.
ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MENTIONED UNDER 35 422 MM-HMM
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE CONCERN HAS BEEN INGRESS EGRESS, THE HOURS OF OPERATION, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS FROM THE DAIS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR HOURS SHOULD BE.
YOUR NEIGHBORS, I THINK, SHOULD HAVE SOME INPUT.
WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM? SHOULD YOU GET A CONTINUANCE TO TRY TO FIND SOME WAY TO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AMEND YOUR SITE PLAN, MAYBE ADD CONDITIONS AND DO THINGS LIKE THAT? CORRECT.
MR. OR MRS. MOT, I'LL GIVE YOU, UH, THE OPTION, WHICHEVER ONE WANTS TO COME UP.
AND I KNOW I'M, I'M MISPRONOUNCING YOUR NAME AND I REALLY APOLOGIZE, BUT I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TRY HARDER.
UM, SO THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU, MR. MOTT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO WORK, AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED THIS IN YOUR, IN YOUR INITIAL STATEMENT, WORK WITH THE APPLICANT, SEE IF THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN DO, WHETHER IT'S RESTRICTIONS ON SIGNAGE, HOURS OF OPERATION, OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, INGRESS, EGRESS TO SEE IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN WORK OUT THIS PROJECT TO BE TOTALLY, UH, I GUESS HONEST, I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH MS. JOHNSON AND WE HAVE MET AND I, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT SHE'S ATTEMPTING TO DO, BRING BUSINESS TO THAT AREA.
AGAIN, I JUST DON'T THINK THE CAR LOT IS THE BEST OPTION FOR THAT SPACING.
UH, I'M QUITE SURE SHE'D BE WILLING TO DO ALL SHE CAN TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND IF THAT WAS POSSIBLE, MAYBE SO, BUT I JUST CANNOT SEE IT.
AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ALRIGHT.
UH, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU MS. JOHNSON.
ALRIGHT, THAT IS THE END OF QUESTIONS AND THAT IS THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE COMMISSIONER LOAF TO YOU FOR DISCUSSION AND POTENTIAL MOTION.
THANKS SO MUCH AND THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR THE ENGAGEMENT.
I FEEL LIKE WHEN WE HAVE HIGH ENGAGEMENT CASES, IT JUST MEANS PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND HOW WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN SAN ANTONIO.
UM, I THINK WHEN I CAME INTO TODAY'S MEETING, I, I, UM, SAW ALL THE ENGAGEMENT FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THANK YOU MS. JOHNSON FOR TALKING TO NEIGHBORS, DOING THE, YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, GONNA THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, AND DEFINITELY GETTING SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FELT, UM, GOOD AND EASY TO SUPPORT.
WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT IN D TWO AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING IS GOING TO SERVE THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE.
SO FOR ME, THIS INITIALLY WAS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND I WAS, I, I FEEL EASY TO
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SUPPORT IT.I DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT KIND OF TO WHAT OUR CHAIR JUST MENTIONED.
THERE IS A LOT TO KIND OF WORK OUT IN SOME OF THE DETAILS HERE.
AND I THINK I, I'M VERY MUCH AGREE WITH HIS POINT.
THIS IS BEST SUITED FOR A DISCUSSION WITH NEIGHBORS, NOT WITH US WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WON'T LIVE EVERY DAY WITH WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE PROPERTY.
SO, UM, I WANT TO MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS CASE FOR TWO WEEKS WITH THE INTENTION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, MS. JOHNSON.
UM, AND, UM, OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ME, LIKE MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND BUSINESS OWNERS AS WELL, UM, GETTING INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION.
I DO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
I WANNA SEE SOMETHING GO IN HERE.
AND I THINK THERE'S A LARGER QUESTION OF FIXING THE ZONING FOR OTHER AREA.
LOTS IN THE AREA THAT SEEM TO NOT HAVE MATCHING ZONING, BUT THAT'S NOT NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.
SO, UM, YEAH, JUST WANTED TO OFFER THAT.
I, I ALSO, THE DISTRICT TWO OFFICE HAS BEEN TALKING TO THE ZONING DIRECTOR THERE AND THEY CAN HELP FACILITATE A MEETING IF NECESSARY.
BUT THE DISTRICT WHO'S OFFICE IS ALSO ABLE TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH NEIGHBORS IF THAT'S GONNA BE USEFUL.
SO I WANTED TO MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TO THE OCTOBER 20TH MEETING.
CONTINUANCE TO THE, THE OCTOBER 20TH MEETING.
ALRIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? I WILL SECOND.
UH, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 20TH BY COMMISSIONER LO WITH A SECOND BY ME DISCUSSION.
I'M GONNA GO TO MY RIGHT THIS TIME.
UM, I, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN COME TO TERMS AND, UH, FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT'S, UH, GOING TO WORK FOR EVERYONE.
I WALK, I WALK THE MLK MARCH EVERY YEAR.
UM, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU NOTICE IS THE VACANT LAND AND THE VACANT PROPERTIES, AND YOU DO NOTHING BUT HOPE FOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
SO I RESPECT YOUR, UH, WILL TO BRING BUSINESSES INTO THE AREA.
MY BROTHER OWNS A CAR LOT AND I THINK IT'S A RESPECTFUL BUSINESS, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONTINUANCE IN SEEING YOU IN TWO WEEKS.
COMMISSIONER PUNT COMMENTS? YES.
UM, I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS, UH, MOTION JUST BECAUSE, UM, AS A SON OF A PROUD CHEROKEE, UM, I KNOW THE EAST SIDE AND I JUST TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT BUSINESS FOR THIS AREA, FOR THIS REZONING.
AGAIN, IF IT WAS A CORNER LOT, IF IT WAS A DIFFERENT AREA, THE CARS ARE GONNA HAVE TO STOP IN THE MIDDLE PARKING SPACES, IT'S JUST TOO SMALL.
I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT PARKING SPACES, THAT'S THE MAX YOU COULD HAVE, BUT THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EMPLOYEES AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SOMEBODY COME IN AND DROP SOMEBODY OFF WHO WANTS TO LOOK AT A CAR.
MAYBE TWO PEOPLE SHOW UP ONE DAY THAT'S GONNA CAUSE ISSUES AND THEN THEY PARK ON MARTIN LUTHER THE KING AND WE KNOW WE DON'T WANT THAT.
THAT'S A PRETTY HIGH TRAFFIC, UH, AREA.
UM, THE ENTRANCE IS ALSO THE, YOU KNOW, THE EGRESS.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST A LITTLE TOO MUCH.
AND I, I, I'M ALWAYS ABOUT COMMUNICATION, TALKING, GETTING TOGETHER, I'M ALWAYS ABOUT THAT.
BUT I REALLY FORESEE IN TWO WEEKS WE WOULD COME BACK AND IT'LL BE THE SAME THING.
SO FOR ME IT'S VERY EASY AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS.
UH, SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION EITHER BECAUSE OF THE FOUR SPEAKERS THAT SPOKE ON OPPOSITION THREE I HEARD WAS A HARD NO.
SO I AM NOT SURE HOW TWO WEEKS IS GONNA CHANGE THEIR MIND.
UH, IF THE MOTION DOES PASS, I HOPE THAT, UH, YOU AND THE NEIGHBORS WILL COME TO SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT.
BUT AGAIN, JUST FROM WHAT I HEARD, THERE ARE A HARD NO WITH ONLY ONE PERSON THAT SAYS THAT THEY WANT TIME TO CONSIDER.
SO AGAIN, UM, I HOPE THERE'S SUCCESS IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS, BUT NO, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
SO THIS IS, UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING DRIVE NEXT TO MARTIN LUTHER KING ACADEMY, NEXT TO MARTIN LUTHER KING PARK NEAR THE START OF THE MARTIN LUTHER KING MARCH.
SO IT'S CLEAR TO ME THE VISION FOR THE COMMUNITY IS FOR THIS TO BE AN AREA, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, MOVES FORWARD AND DEVELOPS INTO A CERTAIN VISION TO BE A CENTER FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WITH THAT IN MIND, I, I THINK THE, UH, PROPOSED REZONING IS, UH, DOESN'T FIT.
UM, I AM ALSO TROUBLED, HOWEVER, BY THE FACT THAT THERE'S C3 ALONG THAT ENTIRE FRONTAGE.
IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF THOSE LOTS ARE VACANT.
SO FOR THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THIS MIGHT BE A CANDIDATE FOR A LARGE AREA REZONE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FUTURE VISION DOES ALIGN WITH THE COMMUNITY'S VISION.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, I I DON'T WANNA MAKE Y'ALL SPIN YOUR WHEELS FOR TWO WEEKS BECAUSE MY POSITION'S NOT GONNA CHANGE.
UM, I I DON'T THINK IT'S A, A PROPER USE FOR THE SPACE.
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I'LL BE VOTING NO ON THE MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE.ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER WHATSUP, I'M SORT OF ALIGNED, BUT I THINK BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONINGS AROUND THERE THAT ZONING IT TO C TWO WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
BUT I DO, UH, AGREE THAT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE, UH, USE OF A CAR LOT IS AN APPROPRIATE USE OBJECTION.
ANY FURTHER QUESTION? UH, DISCUSSION LEFT.
SEEING NONE, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I HEARD AT LEAST INITIALLY THAT PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT TIME AND COMMUNICATION IN THEIR OPENING STATEMENTS.
I WANT YOU TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT COMMUNICATION INGRESS AND EGRESS.
IN THIS CASE, I DO NOT SEE A SINGLE CURB CUT ON THIS PROPERTY, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A CURB CUT NO MATTER WHAT.
AND SO YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING INGRESS AND EGRESS.
AND I'M TAKING EVERYONE AT THEIR WORD THAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE SAFETY, WHICH CAN BE ADDRESSED BY INGRESS AND EGRESS.
I AM TAKING PEOPLE AT THEIR WORD THAT THEIR CONCERNED ABOUT THE INTERACTION WITH THE SCHOOL.
AND YOU CAN FIGURE OUT YOUR, ALL YOUR HOURS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S APPEARANCE, SOMETIMES THAT PENANT SIGNING, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WITH THE WAVY ARM GUY AND WHATNOT CAN BE ADDRESSED.
BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL THAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION, WHICH IS WHY I SECONDED IT.
ALRIGHT, THE MOTIONS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 20TH, UH, BY COMMISSIONER LOAF WITH A SECOND BY ME.
UH, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KELLUM.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR ANY MOTION YOU WANT.
CHAIR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL.
THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ELL.
UH, DISCUSSION TO REMOTE COMMISSIONER LO.
YEAH, I'LL DISCUSS BECAUSE I SHOULD HAVE JUMPED IN FAST WITH A MOTION.
I'LL JUST MAKE A PITCH TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
AND I KNOW I'M VIRTUAL, BUT, UM, I WOULD'VE MOTIONED TO SUPPORT, IF NOT A CONTINUANCE.
I WANNA GIVE PEOPLE TALK TON OF TALK, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT AND THAT'S FINE.
SOMETHING I WILL SAY, I KNOW WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE MENTION THE NEED FOR THAT AREA AND THE VISION FOR THAT AREA.
THIS IS A BLACK OWNED BUSINESS AND THIS IS A BLACK OWNED PERSON, SORRY.
A, A PERSON FROM THE EAST SIDE WHO IS FROM THAT AREA AND WANTING TO MAKE A BUSINESS IN THAT AREA FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE USE FOR THE AREA.
THERE'S ALREADY BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BUSINESSES THERE AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY MATCH THE ZONING.
THIS SEEMS TO BE A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE LIKE, RECTIFY, EXCUSE ME, RECTIFY THAT MISTAKE.
THERE WOULD ALSO JUST MENTION, UM, THAT FROM ALL THE PEOPLE WE HEARD, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOT EVERYONE IS ENGAGED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
EVEN IF YOU HAVE A BUSINESS THERE AND YOU'RE NOT LIVING THERE, I FEEL LIKE IT'S ALL THE MORE REASON TO BE ENGAGED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS VERY INVOLVED AND ENGAGED IN THE AREA AND WITH DISTRICT TWO.
SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF EFFORT TO DISCUSS.
OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN OPINION, BUT I'LL JUST MAKE A PITCH THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME AND I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND I WILL TRY TO FILE AGAIN FOR A SUPPORTIVE MOTION AFTER THIS.
UM, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
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THEN COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE DENIAL.
I WOULD SUPPORT AN APPROVAL AND REASON THAT I WOULD IS BECAUSE TWO LOTS DOWN, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS TO HAVE A CAR LOT THERE.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE LOT IS SMALL, BUT IF, IF SHE CAN PUT A CAR LOT THERE, LET, IT'S HER BUSINESS AND I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD TELL HER WHAT SHE CAN AND CAN'T DO IF IT'S ZONED THE RIGHT ZONING.
COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA AND THEN COMMISSIONER HUEY.
AND MY, MY PERSONAL OPINION, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I WAS BORN ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO.
MY DAD WAS BORN ON AMANDA STREET.
UM, PROUD CHEROKEE, UH, FOR SAM HOUSTON.
I DON'T, AGAIN, I DON'T SEE COLOR.
I SEE UNDER UNDERDEVELOPED AREAS FROM THE CITY FOR DECADES.
UM, I SUPPORT EVERYONE'S BUSINESS.
HOWEVER, FOR THIS SPECIFIC LOT, THE REZONING IS JUST NOT CONDUCIVE TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN MY OPINION.
SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION FOR DENIAL AND I AGREE WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, PETER RODRIGUEZ AND WHAT HE SAID ABOUT WE ON THIS DIOCESE ARE NOT HERE OR SHOULDN'T BE HERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER HIS BUSINESS IS SUCCESSFUL OR NOT.
WE SHOULD BE HERE TO CONSIDER THE PROPER LAND USE AND WHETHER SHE SELLS TWO CARS, THREE CARS, OR EIGHT CARS IN A LOT, THAT'S UP TO HER AS A BUSINESS OWNER IF SHE WANTS TO TAKE THAT CHANCE.
SO NO, I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING A DENIAL.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU TO MY LEFT DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER SIPES, I'LL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE DENIAL EITHER, BUT PROBABLY FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.
UM, IF THE MOTION WAS FOR JUST A STRAIGHT C TWO, I WOULD'VE, I WOULD, UH, UH, BE A APPROVE OF THAT.
BUT, UM, A STRAIGHT DENIAL, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF EITHER.
UH, ANY DISCUSSION LEFT? ALL RIGHT, LET'S, NO, WE'RE JUST GONNA COME THIS WAY.
SO I'M SKIPPING KELLY, I'M SKIPPING KELLUM.
I'LL JUST SAY I'LL SUPPORT COMMISSIONER LO ON THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M FINE WITH THE C TWO.
I JUST WAS STRUGGLING WITH THE CAR AND I'LL LET THEM TAKE TIME TO TRY TO WORK IT OUT.
ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER VE THE, UH, THE, I SEE THE, UH, PURPOSE OF A DENIAL AS A PUMPING OF THE BRAKES.
UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR INTENDED USE AS A C TWO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOOD THAT WOULD DO THEM, UH, BUT PUMPING THE BRAKES TO FIGURE OUT, LIKE I I'D MENTIONED THIS, THIS IN MY MIND IS THE PERFECT LARGE AREA REZONE TO REALIGN EVEN BEFORE WE GET TO THE ESSAY TOMORROW, PLAN UPDATE TO TRY TO VISION, WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR, FOR THIS KIND OF BLOCK? WHAT'S THE FUTURE VISION GOING TO LOOK LIKE? UM, MAYBE IT IS C TWO.
I MEAN PROBABLY IT IS C TWO, MAYBE IT'S C ONE.
UH, MAYBE IT'S PUTTING A PARK HERE, YOU KNOW, HAVING ANOTHER PARK OR ANOTHER PUBLIC SPACE.
UM, BUT I THINK PUMPING THE BRAKES ALLOWS THAT CONVERSATION TO BE HAD.
WE'RE REZONING AT C TWO WHEN THE APPLICANT MAY NOT EVEN USE IT AS A C TWO IS KIND OF KINDA MESSY.
UH, I WILL HAVE THE LAST WORD.
UM, AT LEAST, AT LEAST THIS GO ROUND
UM, WELL, SO I THINK THERE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
ONE IS, YOU KNOW, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HUEY.
UH, WE HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL OF C TWO, AT THE VERY LEAST AT WE ARE ON A BUSY ARTERIAL.
SO C TWO IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE.
UH, I THINK PUMPING THE BRAKES WAS A GREAT IDEA, WHICH IS WHY I WANTED A CONTINUANCE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, C TWO IS A LOT EASIER TO SELL OFF OF MLK THAN AN RM FOUR OR R FOUR.
UH, SO YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S THE RIGHT LAND USE, WHICH STAFF RECOMMENDS IT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AT LEAST SOME PROGRESS.
SO I WILL BE, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO THE DENIAL.
THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY, UH, COMMISSIONER HEINA HOSA WITH A SECOND BY VILLE.
SORRY, I DIDN'T TAKE MY NOTES.
ALRIGHT, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER PI RODRIGUEZ? NO.
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BUSANTE? NO.THE FLOOR IS ONCE AGAIN OPEN FOR A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED NO ON THE PREVIOUS MOTION.
I MAKE A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION.
COMMISSIONER KELLUM RECONSIDERATION.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
JUST I WANNA CONFIRM A PROCESS THING.
THE ONLY, THE ONLY REMAINING OPTION IS A MOTION TO APPROVE C TWO FOR CD, RIGHT? TECHNICALLY NOT ACTUALLY, UH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION FOR ANY USE THAT IS WITHIN, WHAT'S THE WORD? WHAT AM I, AM I BLANKING ON THIS? WITHIN BOUNDS, WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE TERM OF ART? WITHIN THE INTENSITY RANGE? YES.
SO AGAIN, SHE COULD, YOU COULD MOTION, YOU COULD ALSO MOTION FOR A CONTIN.
I MEAN, SHE COULD MAKE A SECOND MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE.
YOU COULD MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE THAT COULD BE DIFFERENT.
YOU COULD ALSO DO IT FOR TWO WEEKS, BUT THAT SEEMS SILLY.
UM, AND THIS IS RECONSIDERATION.
WE'VE ALREADY CONSIDERED TWO, SO YOU COULD, WHATEVER.
I MEAN, IF IT'S, IF IT'S OUT OF BOUNDS, SOMEONE WILL TELL US.
THOUGHT THAT WAS A STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTION, BUT I TAKE IT ALL BACK.
I'M GONNA MOTION TO
THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED BY COMMISSIONER LOAF WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PANNA.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE LEFT FOR DISCUSSION FIRST.
UH, NO, WE'RE GONNA GO, WE'RE GONNA START WITH YOU DUVALL, AND THEN WE'LL GO OUT THIS TIME WE'LL DO THE SAME THING ON THE RIGHT.
BY THE WAY, THE, UH, MOTION AS IT STANDS DOESN'T INCLUDE, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
SO WE MIGHT WANT TO, YOU CAN MOVE, MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
I I, I'LL LET SOMEBODY ELSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE MY POSITION OPPOSED, SO I'LL MAKE, LET SOMEBODY ELSE FIX IT.
UM, BUT JUST ON THE POINT OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING WE ADD THOSE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ANYWAYS, I, I I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE USE, UH, FOR THE SPACE.
UH, THE FACT THAT THE OTHER LOTS NEARBY ARE C3, I THINK IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE REMEDIED, YOU KNOW, AS, AS, UH, AS EX YOU KNOW, QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
UM, SO IT, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE MY MOTION, BUT I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO OTHER FOLKS TO AMEND, TO AMEND THE PRINCIPAL MOTION TO RECOMMEND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO AT LEAST TRY TO MITIGATE IT.
I'M GONNA JUST JUMP ON REALLY QUICKLY AND REMIND EVERYBODY, UM, IF THE COMMISSION IS UNABLE TO PASS SOMETHING, THEN IT IS AN AUTOMATIC TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE UNDER THE CODE.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AND, AND WE CAN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME TIME.
SO IT'S ONLY TWO 40? IT'S ONLY TWO 40.
I HAD, I HAD A GREAT STREAK GOING FOR LIKE 30 MINUTE MEETINGS AND NOW IT'S OVER.
UH, ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE, TO COMMISSIONER, UH, I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR THE, THE CD.
UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA MADE A EXCELLENT POINT.
UM, IF THIS WAS ON THE CORNER.
THAT'S WHERE MORE INTENSE USES ARE USUALLY FOUND.
UM, BUT FOR THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE LOCATION OF THE LOT, I THINK JUST A STRAIGHT C TWO COMMERCIAL WOULD BE THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE RIGHT AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH COMMISSIONER HUEY AND GO DOWN THE LINE.
SO I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THIS, HOWEVER, IF IT GETS
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PASSED, I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME CONDITIONS.UM, OBVIOUSLY I I THINK I COULD DO THAT.
RIGHT? YOU CAN MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
WHETHER YOU VOTE FOR IT OR NOT.
WHETHER YOU VOTE FOR IT OR NOT, YEAH.
YOU CAN MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, BUT IF IT PASSES WITHOUT ANY CONDITIONS, THEN THAT'S IT, THEN THAT'S IT.
AND, AND, AND COMMISSIONER LO CAN REJECT THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY COMMISSIONER PANOW AS WELL.
AND, AND I DO THIS JUST IN CASE.
WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR, UH, TO SLAP A OR PUT ON A, AN NA NOT ALCOHOL ON THERE.
COMMISSIONER LO, THERE'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR NA ADDITION.
DO YOU ACCEPT IT? THE THING IS, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WHAT'S YOUR QUESTION? THE PROCESS QUESTION.
SO IF WE'RE DOING A FRIENDLY AMENDMENTS, THIS IS WHERE I FEEL LIKE IT BELONGS MORE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE THAN US.
SO I WOULD WANNA OFFER NOT, I GUESS I COULD JUST NOT ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, BUT YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
THE INTENT WAS TO HAVE A CONTINUANCE SO THEY CAN DISCUSS THESE TYPES OF AMENDMENTS.
SO I GUESS I WILL, UH, BUT CAN I, OKAY, SORRY.
CAN I DECLINE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT AND ALSO RESUBMIT A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE INSTEAD OF SUPPORT? UH, ONCE THIS ONE'S DONE, YES, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE FIRST.
I AM GOING TO RESPECTFULLY DECLINE THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER HINOJOSA.
AND THAT BEING SAID, I, I WILL SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE IF IT, IF IT COMES TO THAT, JUST TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORS TIME TO TALK AND HOPEFULLY THE BUSINESS OWNER, I JUST HATE FOR IT TO GO APPROVED WITHOUT THAT.
I I WILL, I WILL BACK UP FOR ONE SECOND TO AGAIN SAY SOMETHING THAT WE SAY ALL THE TIME, WHICH IS WE ARE A RECOMMENDING BODY.
WE DO NOT, NOT MAKE FINAL DECISIONS.
THERE IS UP TO A SIX MONTH PERIOD OF TIME AFTER WE MAKE WHATEVER RECOMMENDATION IT IS, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO CONTINUE TO WORK AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THAT BEING SAID, COMMISSIONER HOSA, I'M SORRY, I INTERRUPTED.
AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY, WE ARE RECOMMENDING BODY TO CITY COUNCIL.
SO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, CITY COUNCIL HAS THE FINAL SAY.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? YOU MAY.
WHAT IS THE MOTION? THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED, WHICH IS C TWO CD WITH THE USE FOR CONDITIONAL USE FOR CAR SALES.
WOULD THAT PERMIT A PERMIT, A CAR SALE LOT? NO, IT, THE CD IS REQUIRED FOR CAR SALES.
UH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PETE RODRIGUEZ.
COMMISSIONER PAN
UM, COMMISSIONER LO'S UP TO YOU.
I'LL GIVE YOU THE FINAL WORD THIS TIME.
I'LL JUST BE SO CLEAR AND SO QUICK, WHICH IS THAT IF WE WANNA FIGURE THIS OUT, IT'S NOT FOR US TO FIGURE OUT.
IT'S PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND HAVE BUSINESSES THERE.
SO, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE IS NOT THAT.
SO
THE MOTION AS IT STANDS AND THAT WE ARE GETTING READY TO VOTE ON IS YES.
A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE WOULD BE THE RESULT OF US NOT FIGHTING A SOLUTION TODAY.
SO IF FOR EXAMPLE, THIS MOTION FAILS AND THERE EITHER IS NO MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OR THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION FAILS, THEN IT'S TWO WEEKS BY RULE.
THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS SUBMITTED, WHICH IS C TWO CD CONDITIONAL USE FOR CAR SALES BY COMMISSIONER LO.
WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER UPON IT.
COMMISSIONER PIE RODRIGUEZ? YES.
NOW I DO GET THE FINAL WORK, BUT I REMAIN, I'M SORRY.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION FOR SOMEONE WHO VOTED NO.
THE CHAIR HAS HEARD NO MOTION BY RULE.
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A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE OCCURS AND WE WILL SEE YOU ALL AGAIN IN TWO WEEKS.PLEASE USE THAT TIME WISELY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE.
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FINAL ITEM FOR TODAY IS THE CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 ZONING, COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES.ARE THERE ANY AMENDMENTS, CHANGES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? COMMISSIONERS LEFT RIGHT REMOTELY.
THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN FOR A MOTION WITH RESPECT TO THE MINUTES.
THERE'S A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER HUEY.
UH, THIS CAN BE DONE BY ACCLIMATION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2026 ZONING COMMISSION MINUTES.
UH, MOTION CARRIES MINUTES ARE APPROVED.
IS THERE A DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO.
THIS MEETING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS ADJOURNED.