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[1. 20-1903 Approval of the Minutes for the January 09, 2020 Transportation and Mobility Committee Meeting.]
ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.[2. 19-8461 Briefing on the Status of the Airport Strategic Development Plan. [Carlos Contreras, Assistant City Manager; Jesus Saenz, Director, Aviation]]
VERY EXCITING.UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A BRIEFING ON THE STATUS OF THE AIRPORT STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW AIRPORT DIRECTOR JESUS SIGNS.
YOU WANT, ARE YOU GONNA GIVE OUR PRESENTATION OR IS SCOTTO GONNA GIVE IT COUNCILWOMAN? JESUS IS GONNA DO THAT ALONG WITH A CONSULTANT FROM W S P.
WE'LL, WE'LL DO A PIECE OF THAT.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS THE, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE STATUS TO DATE OF THE AIR SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IF YOU RECALL, WE HAD A PHASE ONE, AND THIS IS PHASE TWO.
AND JESUS WILL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT STATUS AS WELL.
JOHN DIXON, UH, THE CHAIR OF THE AIR SYSTEMS DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE THAT SORT OF OVERSEEING THIS PROCESS HAD INTENDED TO BE HERE AND, AND PARTICIPATED AS WELL.
BUT HE DEVELOPED THE FLU LAST NIGHT.
SO WE TOLD HIM, STAY HOME OF GOD, STAY HOME AND DON'T JOIN US.
BUT, UH, WILL TAKE IT FROM HERE.
AND SO WILL YOU GIVE A, A LITTLE BIT OF AN OVERVIEW OF PHASE ONE? I SURE WILL.
SO I THINK COUNCILMAN HAVER, UH, CAB HAVE AS PROBABLY THE ONLY ONE WHO'S NOT HEARD THE, UNLESS YOU'VE HAD A BRIEFING SINCE THEN, BUT, UM, SINCE SHE'S A NEW MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE, SO I'M GLAD WE'LL HAVE A BRIEFING AND THAT SHE CAN HEAR THAT.
NO, AND THANKS FOR THE SCHWAG.
I'M THE NEW AIRPORT DIRECTOR HERE IN, IN, IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.
UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MAYOR'S, REPRESENTATIVES, AND CHAIRS, UH, OF, OF EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.
THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR BEING HERE IN GENERAL.
AUDIENCE TODAY WE'RE GONNA GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S BEEN IN THE MAKINGS AS IT WAS REFERENCED IN SOME OF THE PREFACING COMMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THIS STARTED BACK IN 2010 AND HAS FRUITION, UH, MIDDLE OF 2018.
SOME DECISIONS WERE MADE TO BEGIN THE NEW STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO, TO GET GOING ON.
WHAT DECISIONS ARE WE GONNA MAKE? WHAT PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES ARE WE GOING TO GO TO? SO, UH, THE, THE CITY WENT OUT ALONG WITH THE, WITH THE AIRPORT AND HIRED W S P TO PERFORM SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES AND REVIEW WHAT WERE GOING TO BE THE APPROPRIATE NEXT STEPS.
PHASE ONE TO YOUR REFERENCING IS GOING TO BE DISCUSSED TODAY TO KIND OF GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW ON WHAT IT IS THAT WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED THUS FAR AS IT RELATES TO PHASE ONE, THE MILESTONES ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH PHASE ONE, AND NOW WHERE WE ARE AT IN PHASE TWO TO TELL YOU, WE ARE GETTING TO SOME DECISION MAKING POINTS, AND WE ARE GONNA GET TO SOME, SOME PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO WITH REGARDS TO SPECIFIC TO THE AIRFIELD AND THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO ON, ON THE AIRFIELD OF THE AIRPORT COMPLEX.
UM, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE GIVING YOU FAIR AND ACCURATE.
SO IT WAS A VERY DATA-DRIVEN EFFORT ON THE ANALYSIS THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING.
ALSO, A LOT OF TECHNICAL INFORMATION IS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THAT.
WE'RE GONNA ASK, UH, JOHN VEN WEEL WITH, UH, W S P TO COVER THOSE EFFORTS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SOME PRE COMMENTS AND THEN I'LL COME BACK TO, TO GIVE SOME CLOSING COMMENTS.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE PUBLIC OUTREACH TO EACH OF THE COMMUNITIES AS WE'VE BEGAN THOSE EFFORTS WITH EACH OF YOU ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WITH YOU TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAVE A FULL UNDERSTANDING AND, AND COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY IN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, LEMME MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE RIGHT SLIDE HERE.
YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE.
THIS WAS TAKEN IN 2018, AND IT'S ONLY GOTTEN A LITTLE BIT BUSIER AT THE AIRPORT.
OF COURSE, THIS WAS THE, UH, REASON BEHIND DOING THE STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS THE AIRPORT WAS GETTING BUSIER IN 18.
THE AIRPORT EXCEEDED 10 MILLION PASSENGERS SINCE THEN, THE CURRENT, UH, PAST YEAR OR UP TO ABOUT 10.3 MILLION PASSENGERS, AND ITS GROWTH IS CONTINUING.
SO IT'S CLEAR THERE'S A NEED FOR, EXCUSE ME, A PLAN ON THE REPLACEMENT OF TERMINAL A.
WHAT IS THE ANSWER FOR TERMINAL A? UH, WHERE DID THE NEXT GATES GO? AND LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE AIRFIELD AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHY THE PLAN WAS STARTED.
I HAVE TO JUGGLE MY GLASSES HERE.
UM, AND WHEN WE, WHEN WE STARTED THIS, IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT FROM YOUR TYPICAL AIRPORT, UH, PLAN, UH, IN THAT WE DIDN'T JUST LOOK AT 20 YEARS WHAT'S NEEDED FOR THE AIRPORT.
THERE WAS A, AN ISSUE WITH, UH, CONCERN ABOUT NEEDING A NEW AIRPORT.
SO WE STARTED THIS, THIS WITH, UH, THE AIRPORT DECIDED ON A TWO-PHASE APPROACH.
FIRST, CAN IT FIT, CAN IT BE MADE TO FIT AT THIS, AT THIS SITE? UM, SO PHASE ONE, AS YOU SEE HERE
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IS WHERE WE STARTED OFF.WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER WOULD BE.
SO WE LITERALLY HAD THAT DECISION DIAMOND THERE.
IF THE ANSWER WAS, IT FITS, THEN YOU PROCEED DIFFERENTLY.
AND IF THE ANSWER IS IT DOESN'T FIT, WHICH MEANS YOU LOOK AT A NEW SITE.
UH, SO WE HAD TWO PROCESSES AND WE WENT INTO PHASE ONE, OPEN-MINDED, AND, UH, SEE WHERE IT TOOK US.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MAYOR DID IS HE APPOINTED THIS SPECIAL COMMITTEE BECAUSE THIS WAS SUCH AN IMPORTANT QUESTION TO ANSWER AND MAYBE ANSWER ONCE AND FOR ALL BECAUSE IT HAD COME UP A NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE DECADES.
UM, SO JOHN DIXON'S COMMITTEE, AS YOU JUST HEARD, WAS, WAS APPOINTED.
UM, AND THIS WAS THEIR CHARTER.
AND I CAN'T SPEAK FOR JOHN DIXON, BUT THESE WERE HIS SLIDES.
AND I'LL JUST MENTION A FEW HIGHLIGHTS.
UM, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MEMBERS, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT VARIOUS, UH, TRANSPORTATION, AVIATION AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE CITY.
UH, CEOS AND ALL KINDS OF ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING THE MILITARY.
HERE ARE SOME OF THE, THE MEMBERS.
AND THEY GIVE A LOT OF CREDIBILITY BECAUSE IF THEY ENDORSE WHAT WE AS TECHNICAL PEOPLE COME UP WITH, THAT ISN'T AN EXTRA VOTE OF CONFIDENCE FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH OUR PLAN OR NOT.
SO WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO SEE THIS.
UH, AND THIS GROUP IS, UH, HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL.
WE'VE KEPT THEM BRIEFED ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
SO A QUICK OVERVIEW AS YOU JUST ASKED ABOUT PHASE ONE.
PHASE ONE IS DIFFERENT AGAIN, IN THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW SITE, WHICH IS VERY UNUSUAL.
NOT NOT THAT MANY NEW AIRPORTS GET BUILT AROUND THE COUNTRY.
IT DOESN'T COME UP THAT OFTEN.
UM, AS PART OF THAT, WE DID EXTENSIVE STAKEHOLDER, UH, ENGAGEMENT AROUND THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST AROUND THE AIRPORT.
UH, THERE'S A NUMBER OF OTHER TECHNICAL STUDIES THAT YOU CAN SEE.
WE LOOKED AT TRAFFIC AND DRAINAGE AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER, UH, TECHNICAL ASPECTS LIKE UTILITIES AS WELL.
UH, ECONOMIC IMPACT STUDY UPDATE.
BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, FOR, FOR AIRPORT PLANNING PURPOSES, WE DID A FORECAST OF AVIATION DEMANDS.
WE PROJECTED FUTURE PASSENGERS AND AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS.
AND THEN WE TRANSLATED THAT INTO GATES, RUNWAY LENGTH, NUMBER OF RUNWAYS, STUFF YOU NEED ON THE GROUND TO MEET THAT DEMAND.
UH, AND THEN WE SAID, OKAY, COULD YOU MEET THIS DEMAND ON THE EXISTING SITE? WELL, UM, AND, AND BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET ME TALK A LITTLE BIT, UM, ABOUT THE, UH, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT AS PART OF ALL THIS.
AS WE WERE DOING OUR WORK, WE HAD OUTREACH THROUGHOUT HERE, YOU SEE A LIST OF, OF JUST SOME OF IT.
UH, WE HAD BOTH POP-UP MEETINGS, WHICH WERE SMALL OPEN HOUSES.
YOU GO TO A LOCATION, YOU SET UP A MEETING.
THE IDEA IS YOU GO TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE NORMALLY.
SO THIS CAN BE AT A FARMER'S MARKET SOCCER GAME, SOME OTHER EVENT WHERE PEOPLE TEND TO GO AS PART OF THEIR NORMAL LIVES.
AND WE GO TO THEM, UH, AS OPPOSED TO AN OPEN HOUSE WHERE YOU SET UP AN INVITE AND PEOPLE COME TO YOU.
WE DID FOUR OF THEM IN PHASE ONE.
WE DID 'EM IN ALL QUADRANTS OF THE CITY.
UM, AND YOU SEE THE LOCATIONS LISTED, UM, THERE.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS WE SHARED WITH PEOPLE, BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD EARLIER, THIS IS A VERY TRANSPARENT PROCESS.
SO THE LITTLE DASH LINE THERE AT THE BOTTOM IS THE FORECAST.
F A A NORMALLY WANTS, IT'S THE MOST LIKELY GROSS SCENARIO, AND IT'S FOR A 20 YEAR HORIZON THAT LOOKS REALLY TINY ON THAT CHART BECAUSE WE SAID, WELL, THAT'S INTERESTING, BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IF YOU CAN MEET DEMAND ON THIS SITE, YOU NEED TO PUSH IT.
YOU NEED TO NOT JUST LOOK AT 20 YEAR, MOST LIKELY DEMAND.
YOU NEED TO LOOK AT AGGRESSIVE DEMAND.
WHAT COULD IT BE? WHAT'S THE UPPER END OF THAT DEMAND? AND THEN LET'S PUSH THAT OUT TO 50 YEARS, WHICH IS A RIDICULOUS HORIZON.
WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN 50 YEARS, BUT IF YOU'RE TRYING TO SEE IF THIS SITE'S GOOD FOREVER AND EVER, THEN YOU NEED TO REALLY PUSH IT.
F A A WENT, UH, ALONG WITH THAT IDEA BECAUSE THEY WANTED THIS QUESTION OF A NEW AIRPORT ANSWERED AS WELL.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE ACTUAL SLIDES WE USED AS PART OF PHASE ONE TO INVESTIGATE ALL THIS.
THIS IS A COMPOSITE SLIDE ALSO FROM PHASE ONE, WHERE WE SHOWED PEOPLE WHAT THIS COULD LOOK LIKE.
AGAIN, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF, UH, WHAT THE BEST WAY IS TO EXTEND THE RUNWAY OR WHERE TO PUT A NEW RUNWAY OR WHERE TO PUT A NEW TERMINAL.
BUT WE SAID, WELL, LET'S JUST ASSUME ALL THE OPTIONS.
LET'S ASSUME A WIDELY SPACED PARALLEL, A CLOSELY SPACED PARALLEL, A LONG RUNWAY HERE, LONG RUNWAY THERE.
WHAT COULD ALL THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU SEE HERE.
SO THAT, UH, BLUE CLOUD IS WHERE RUNWAYS MIGHT GO TO MEET THAT 50 YEAR DEMAND.
THE THE GRAY AREA, THE GREEN AREA IN THE CENTER.
THERE IS WHERE A TERMINAL COULD GO IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AIRPORT IF YOU WANTED TO MOVE THE COMPLEX, UH, IF YOU HAD A WIDE RUNWAY, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT EXTENDING THE EXISTING TERMINAL, UH, SORT OF WHERE THE ROADWAY IS TODAY, WHERE THERE'S A VACANT AREA WHERE, UH, YOU COULD, YOU CAN IMAGINE TERMINAL C WAS PLANNED IN THE PAST, UM, OR, AND KEEP GOING IN THAT DIRECTION, OR YOU COULD GO ANY OTHER DIRECTION, GO, UH, CLOSER TO WHERE TERMINAL A IS A SORT OF GO OUT INTO THE AIRFIELD OR GO TO THE SOUTH.
WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DECIDE ON ONE.
WE JUST LOOKED AT COULD YOU MAKE IT WORK IN THOSE AREAS.
AND WE FOUND JUST IN, IN QUICK STUDY, THREE AREAS FOR THE TERMINAL, SEVERAL AREAS
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FOR DIFFERENT RUNWAYS EXCEPT FOR SOME ACQUISITION ON THE NORTHEAST OF THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, NORTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WHICH WAS PREVIOUSLY LOOKED AT IN PREVIOUS PLANS.UM, YOU COULD, YOU COULD MAKE IT FIT.
SO THAT WAS REALLY WHAT WE TRIED TO DO IN PHASE ONE IS DOES IT FIT JOHN? JOHN, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE PLEASE, MADAM CHAIRMAN, PARDON ME FOR INTERRUPTING, BUT JUST FOR ORIENTATION PURPOSES, WHAT YOU SEE LISTED AS SOUTH ALTERNATIVE AND NORTH ALTERNATIVE, THAT'S AROUND THE CURRENT TERMINALS.
AND THEN JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IS ONE OF THE RUNWAYS.
THAT'S 4, 2 2, THAT'S ON THE RIGHT.
UH, AND THEN RUNNING PERPENDICULAR TO US.
ONE, THREE, RIGHT? SO THAT'S JUST FOR YOUR ORIENTATION THERE.
WE HAVE, OKAY, WHY DON'T YOU PUT IT LIKE RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TOO.
AND SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST PUT AND POINT IT OUT.
SO THE 2 81, ONCE IN ALL THESE LONG ARMS COMING IN, UM,
UH, OVER HERE IS WETMORE AND THE, UH, THE RAILROAD, THIS IS BROADWAY.
THIS IS A SO-CALLED CROSSMAN RUNWAY, RUNWAY 4, 2, 2.
IT'S A SMALLER RUNWAY USED BY SMALL AIRCRAFT.
SO WE LOOKED AT EXPANDING IN THIS AREA, POSSIBLY OUT IN HERE.
SO THAT LITTLE CLOUD IS, IS QUITE, UH, LARGE.
OR YOU COULD EXPAND IN THIS, THIS AREA OR DOWN HERE AND MAKE IT WORK AS WELL.
THE OTHER GREEN CLOUD YOU SAW ON THAT CHART IS IF YOU DID SOME SORT OF TERMINAL DEVELOPMENT HERE WITH A RUNWAY OUT HERE, AGAIN, THINKING REAL BIG 50 YEARS OUT, THE POINT IS YOU COULD EXPAND IN THIS WAY.
YOU COULD EXPAND OUT HERE, OR YOU COULD DO IT HERE.
SO WHICHEVER ONE IS BEST, YOU COULD MAKE IT FIT A WIDELY SPACED RUNWAY, CLOSELY SPACED RUNWAY.
THERE'S MULTIPLE OPTIONS AVAILABLE.
AND ALL WE WERE TRYING TO DO IN PHASE ONE
WE JUST NEED TO KNOW, COULD YOU MAKE IT WORK? AND THIS UP HERE IS THE AREA THAT, UH, WOULD NEED TO BE ACQUIRED UP HERE.
AND THIS WAS SHOWN IN PREVIOUS PLANS GOING BACK.
PREVIOUS PLANS, GOING BACK TO THE NINETIES, IS TO BE ACQUIRED WHEN A RUNWAY WAS PLANNED FOR QUITE SOME TIME OVER HERE.
EVENTUALLY THAT FELL OFF THE PLAN.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.
THAT WOULD, THAT'S WHAT YOU SEE SUMMARIZED SORT OF IN THAT CLOUD EXHIBIT.
IS THAT ENOUGH? LEAVE IT DOWN HERE.
AND WE CAN CONFIRM THAT THAT DECISION, THAT DECISION ON WHETHER IT WOULD FIT OR NOT FIT HAS BEEN MADE IN PHASE ONE TO STATE THAT IT CAN FIT IN THAT FOOTPRINT, UH, THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE TODAY.
AND THAT IN BETWEEN THOSE 2,600 ACRES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED.
SO AS A RESULT, WE MOVE ON TO PHASE TWO, WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
OKAY? SO A LITTLE BIT, LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE STARTED WITH PHASE TWO, HAVING ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE CONTINUING, OKAY, HOW DO YOU BEST MAKE IT FIT NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT IT FITS? OKAY, HOW DO YOU MAKE IT FIT? WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN THE 20 YEAR TIMEFRAME? NOT JUST 50 YEARS, BECAUSE 20 YEARS IS A MORE REASONABLE PLANNING HORIZON.
THAT'S WHAT F A A CONSIDERS THE OUTER HORIZON OF REASONABILITY.
WE STILL WANT TO KEEP AN EYE ON 50 YEARS TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T UNDER PLAN, BUT THE FOCUS IS ON, ON 20 YEARS.
SO SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE PRETTY, UH, LOGICAL.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS NOW? HOW DO YOU EXTEND THE RUNWAY? WHERE GO DOES A PARALLEL GO? WHEN DO YOU NEED A PARALLEL RUNWAY? UH, WHERE, WHERE EXACTLY DO WE WANT TO GO WITH THE TERMINAL? WE KNOW WE HAVE THREE OPTIONS, BUT WHICH IS THE BEST? LET'S FIGURE THAT OUT.
AGAIN, WE CONTINUE AND ACTUALLY STEPPED UP THE OUTREACH PROGRAM.
YOU'LL SEE MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT HOW DO YOU PAY FOR ALL THIS? IT'S GREAT TO DRAW UP A WONDERFUL PLAN, BUT HOW DO YOU GET THERE IN LOGICAL PHASES? WHAT ARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVALS, UH, THAT ARE NEEDED? UH, AND PART OF THAT OF COURSE IS, IS NOISE.
UM, AND THEN WE DOCUMENT IT ALL.
WE NEED FA A APPROVAL AS WELL.
LASTLY THERE, AND WE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER, THERE'S A NOISE EXPOSURE MAP UPDATE AS WELL, WHICH IS A FURTHER NOISE STUDY THAT'S SPECIFIC TO A NOISE CONTOUR, THE NOISE FOOTPRINT THAT WILL START IN THE SUMMER.
AND AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.
SO PUTTING THOSE TASKS ON THE TIMELINE, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE ARE.
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SEE.LET ME POINT AT IT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
THE ALTERNATIVES PROCESS TOOK ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
WE STARTED OFF WITH A PRETTY UNIQUE THING CALLED SKETCH PLANNING WHERE WE WENT OUT TO ALL THE COMMITTEES OF STAKEHOLDERS AND ASKED THEM FOR THEIR IDEAS.
YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE HERE WHAT SOME OF THEM WERE.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE BEEN IN ALTERNATIVES, EVALUATION PROCESS FOR SIX MONTHS NOW.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE DOWN TO TWO ALTERNATIVES, AS YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE.
SO THAT'S A TECHNICAL PROCESS WHERE WE LOOKED AT THINGS LIKE ENGINEERING FEASIBILITY.
CAN YOU ACTUALLY BUILD IT WITHOUT BLOWING UP THE ENTIRE AIRPORT FIRST? UM, IS IT, IS IT OTHERWISE ACHIEVABLE? IS THERE A MAJOR ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, UM, REASON TO, TO NOT IMPLEMENT SOMETHING? AND SO WE WENT THROUGH ALL THESE TECHNICAL ANALYSES AND WENT FROM QUITE A FEW TO DOWN TO TO TWO.
UM, SO LET ME MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
AGAIN, I MENTIONED STAKEHOLDER, UH, ENGAGEMENT.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE, UH, BOTH COVERED THE ENTIRE GEOGRAPHY OF THE CITY, BUT ALSO YOU CAN SEE LISTED HERE SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES THAT WE UNDERTOOK.
SO EVERYTHING FROM THE TRADITIONAL OPEN HOUSE THAT WE'LL BE DOING, UM, A LITTLE BIT, UH, IN, IN MARCH, WHAT'S THE DATE? 23RD.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE LATER IN THE SUMMER.
BUT WE'RE ADDING ON ALL THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
WE REFER TO 'EM AS COFFEE CLUTCHES BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF 'EM IN COFFEE SHOPS AND ARE INFORMAL.
WE DO POPUPS AGAIN, WHERE WE GO TO WHERE PEOPLE ARE AND, AND TALK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING, GET THEIR INPUT.
UM, THERE'S OF COURSE WEBSITE INFORMATION.
UM, AND WE ALSO GO TO OTHER AGENCIES, A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE THEIR MEETING.
SO A DISTRICT MEETING MIGHT HAVE A, UM, A EITHER A STANDING MEETING OR AN AGENDA ITEM, OR THEY HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO, TO INVITE US TO COME SPEAK.
HERE, HERE ARE SOME OF THEM LISTED.
SO THE POPUPS, AGAIN, ARE THE OPEN HOUSES WHERE WE SET UP SHOPS SOMEWHERE WHERE PEOPLE ALREADY ARE IN VARIOUS DISTRICTS.
AND AT THE BOTTOM YOU SEE SOME OF THE COFFEE CLUTCHES OR COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT ARE VERY INFORMAL THAT WE'VE HELD, UM, AS WELL.
THESE ARE, AGAIN, SOME MORE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS WHERE WE WENT TO PEOPLE, UH, WHERE THEY WERE HAVING THEIR MEETING AND SPOKE, UH, AS INVITED MEMBERS.
UM, AND, UM, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AS, AS WELL.
AND THERE'S ONE HERE SCHEDULED THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
AND IT'LL BE MORE AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
THIS IS JUST SORT OF IN OUR TRACK RECORD SINCE WE'VE BEEN GOING IN PHASE TWO.
REQUEST TO THE COUNCIL IS IF YOU HAVE MEETINGS AND YOU WOULD LIKE A PRESENTATION AT YOUR MEETING, WE WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME TO A MEETING THAT YOU'RE ALREADY HAVING, OR IF YOU WANNA SCHEDULE ONE IN PARTICULAR, HAPPY TO COME AND, AND DO THAT AND WOULD APPRECIATE THE CHANCE TO PRESENT ALL OF OF THIS.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVES PROCESS ITSELF.
I SAID IT'S VERY TECHNICAL AND OFTEN VERY DRY AND BORING, BUT I'LL, I'LL TRY TO HIT SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
IT WAS MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF REVIEW.
WE STARTED OFF WITH A PLANNED FOUR ROUNDS.
WE ENDED UP TURNING IT INTO ABOUT EIGHT ROUNDS TO MAKE SURE WE, WE STOPPED AT EACH POINT AND, UH, CAME TO CONCLUSIONS AND MOVED FORWARD.
UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS GRAPHIC, THE, THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT'S IN THE FIRST ROUND.
YOU KNOCK OUT THE THINGS THAT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS OR OTHERWISE ARE IMPOSSIBLE.
AND AS YOU GO DOWN FURTHER AND ALTERNATIVES ARE MORE VIABLE, YOU APPLY MORE TECHNICAL, UH, FACTORS.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE HOW WE STARTED OFF WITH 91 IDEAS.
WE HAD 107 PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN VARIOUS, UH, MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDER GROUPS TO GET IDEAS.
WE WANTED IDEAS AND WE GOT 'EM.
YOU'LL SEE IN A MINUTE HERE, SOME, SOME REALLY INTERESTING STUFF WE GOT FROM PEOPLE AND WE NARROWED IT DOWN IN LOGICAL STEPS.
SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE PHASES HERE.
WE WENT FROM 91, YOU KNOW, EVENTUALLY TO FIVE, WHICH WE SENT YOU A BRIEFING PACKET ON BEFORE.
AND NOW WE'VE TAKEN IT FROM THOSE FIVE DOWN TO TWO AIR FIELDS LEFT STANDING.
WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT TERMINAL OPTIONS AND HOW TO GET FROM THAT, THE TWO TO THE FINAL ONE.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE TIMELINE HERE WHERE, UH, WE'LL BE WRAPPING THAT UP AND THEN HAVE OUR SORT OF GROUP OF OUTREACH ACTIVITIES AGAIN IN STARTING LATE FEBRUARY AND IN MARCH, SOME OF THE FACTORS WE LOOKED AT, SAFETY AND OPERATIONALLY FEASIBLE.
IF YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF RUNWAY INTERSECTIONS, THAT'S CONSIDERED A BAD IDEA.
UH, THERE'S INTERSECTIONS THERE TODAY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM.
SO ADDING NEW INTERSECTIONS IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
UM, ARE THEY TECHNICALLY FEASIBLE? YOU KNOW, DO THEY, DO THEY ACTUALLY ACHIEVE OUR GOAL? CAN YOU GET TO 10,700 FOOT RUNWAY THAT'S NEEDED IN AN ALTERNATIVE, CAN YOU GET CAPACITY INCREASES IF YOU'RE TRYING TO INCREASE CAPACITY WITH YOUR ALTERNATIVES? AND AN ALTERNATIVE DOESN'T INCREASE CAPACITY, IT'S PROBABLY NOT HELPFUL.
AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONSIDERATIONS, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT, UH, MORE, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT ALL OF THESE MORE, OF COURSE, UM, COMMUNITY CONSIDERATIONS.
SOME, SOME RUNWAYS WERE PUT IN PARKS
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OR ENTIRELY OFF AIRPORT AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.UM, AND FINANCIALLY FEASIBLE, IF YOU HAVE TO BLOW UP THE WHOLE AIRPORT, AS I SAID EARLIER, AND REBUILD IT, AND THEN START TO EXPAND OR INCREASE, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT FINANCIALLY VIABLE.
SO SOME OTHER, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE FACTORS WE USED.
ONE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT JUST BRIEFLY, UH, IN PARTICULAR IS, UM, THE INTERACTION WITH RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE.
THERE, THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THIS, BUT THERE'S A WELL-DOCUMENTED HISTORY.
THE AIRPORT HAS A COMMUNICATION CHANNEL WITH THE PEOPLE WHO RUN THE AIRSPACE AT RANDOLPH.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK RANDOLPH IS NORTH OR NORTHEAST OF THE AIRPORT.
UH, BUT THE AIRSPACE PROBLEM IS SORT OF NORTH NORTHEAST.
AND THIS IS A, A VERY LOW RESOLUTION IMAGE BECAUSE WE TOOK THIS IN THE DARK, IN THE, UH, UH, TOWER CONTROL ROOM OFF A RADAR SCREEN.
SO IT, THAT'S WHY IT'S, UH, BAD.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IT'S A BASE OF THOSE YELLOW ARROWS IS THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, AND THE OTHER R AND D IS RANDOLPH.
AND THEN THE LINES ARE EITHER D ARRIVING OR DEPARTING TRAFFIC WHEN IN, WHEN, UH, SAN ANTONIO IS IN A NORTHEAST FLOW.
SO WHEN AIRCRAFT ARE COMING OFF THAT RUNWAY OR APPROACHING TO THAT RUNWAY, YES, THE PROBLEM OCCURS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT HERE, IF YOU WANTED TO RANDOLPH'S OVER THERE, CONFLICT'S OVER HERE ON, ON THAT SCREEN.
IT'S NOT A, UH, HUGE PROBLEM FOR THE AIRPORT TODAY BECAUSE THE AIRPORT'S NOT VERY OFTEN IN A FLOW WHERE THEY HAVE TO USE RUNWAY FOUR OR TWO, TWO.
AND WHEN RANDOLPH IS ACTIVE, THE AIRPORT IS BACKS OFF USING THAT RUNWAY.
THEY FOCUS ON THE MAIN RUNWAYS PROBLEM GOES AWAY.
THE REASON IT'S RELEVANT IS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT, UM, THE VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES MEETINGS SAID, WELL, HOW ABOUT PUTTING MORE RUNWAY FOUR, TWO TWOS IN, MAKE THAT THE MAIN DIRECTION OF THE ENTIRE AIRPORT? WELL, THAT WE TURNED OUT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, THAT'S NOW MAKES YOUR ENTIRE AIRPORT DEPENDENT ON THE RANDOLPH AIRSPACE.
AND OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T INTERFERE WITH, WITH THE MISSION.
UM, SO WHILE TODAY YOU CAN WORK AROUND IT, BECAUSE YOUR MAIN FLOW IS ON THE 1 3, 3, 1 RUNWAYS, UH, FOUR IS OPTIONAL, GETS A FAIR BIT OF USE, BUT IT'S OPTIONAL.
CONTROLLERS SWITCH TRAFFIC AROUND.
BUT IF YOU WERE TO ROTATE YOUR ENTIRE AIRPORT IN THE DIRECTION OF 4, 2, 2 OR SLIGHTLY NORTH OR EAST OF THAT, YOU'VE JUST EXACERBATED THIS EXISTING PROBLEM AND NOW INTERFERE WITH THE BASE.
SO A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES FELL OUT WHEN PEOPLE SAID, LET'S DO THAT.
THAT'S CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THE AIRPORT.
THOSE ALTERNATIVES FELL OUT AFTER TALKING TO THE TOWER AND AIRSPACE FOLKS.
IT JUST ISN'T VIABLE BECAUSE YOUR ENTIRE AIRPORT WOULD BE TEMPORARILY HINDERED OR CLOSED WHILE THESE RANDOLPH OPERATIONS WERE HAPPENING.
SO THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MENTION THAT ONE.
IN, UH, PARTICULAR, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHERE WE ARE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE EVALUATION.
SO WHEN WE TOOK ALL 91 ALTERNATIVES AND YOU TURN ON ALL THE LAYERS IN AUTOCAD, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND IT'S, IT'S KIND OF GOOFY, BUT IT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE WONDERFULLY DIVERSE INPUT WE GOT FROM PEOPLE.
THERE ARE SOME REALLY CREATIVE IDEAS.
SO THOSE LITTLE LINES OFF TO THE SIDE, THOSE ARE RUNWAYS IN NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, PAST BROADWAY PEOPLE GAVE US ALL KINDS OF IDEAS.
THERE'S A CIRCULAR RUNWAY IN THERE, WHICH IS A TECHNICAL IDEA THAT'S BEING SUGGESTED BY SOME AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLERS IN EUROPE.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THESE ALTERNATIVES AND THEY'RE ALL DOCUMENTED.
IF YOU CAME TO ONE OF OUR POP-UPS, YOU SAW THE BINDER, WHICH IS THIS BIG BINDER WHERE WE HAVE ALL THE ALTERNATIVES AND WE TRACK WHY THEY FALL OUT OF THE MIX OR CONTINUE, OOPS, EXCUSE ME, OR CONTINUE TO THE NEXT ROUND FOR EVALUATION.
SO WE HAVE ALL THIS DOCUMENTED, BUT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THIS IS WHAT ALL OF 'EM LOOK LIKE.
SO WE WANTED INPUT, WE GOT INPUT, UM, AFTER WE TOOK OUT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE RANDOLPH, UH, RESHIFTING OF THE AIRPORT, WE TOOK OUT SOME THAT, UH, SIMPLY COULDN'T BE BUILT IN 20 YEARS OR WERE UNSAFE OR HAD OTHER ISSUES.
WE WERE DOWN AFTER ROUND ONE, WHICH REALLY WAS TWO SMALL ROUNDS, RUNS ONE A AND B TWO, WHICH YOU SEE THERE, UH, 14 ALTERNATIVES.
WE TOOK IT FROM THOSE 14 TO THE FIVE THAT, THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PACKET THAT YOU RECEIVED TODAY.
I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A PREVIEW HERE OF WHERE THEY ARE.
IT'S HARD TO SEE AT THIS SCALE.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS, AND THERE'S JUST TWO, TWO TYPES OF EXHIBITS, BUT THERE'S BASICALLY TWO CONCEPTS HERE.
ONE IS THE EXISTING MAIN RUNWAY STAYS THE MAIN RUNWAY AND IS EXTENDED THE EXISTING SMALL RUNWAY.
AND I'LL POINT IT TO MAIN RUNWAY AND A SMALL RUNWAY ON THE PHOTO.
NOW, REAL QUICK, EXISTING MAIN RUNWAY RIGHT HERE, EXISTING SMALL RUNWAY RIGHT THERE.
MAIN RUNWAY GETS EXTENDED, THE OTHER RUNWAY GETS EXTENDED AS WELL, BUT STAYS MUCH SHORTER.
IT'D BE AN ARRIVAL, PRIMARILY RUNWAY AT
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ABOUT 7,300 FEET.THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE IS, IS FLIP IT, TAKE THE EXISTING SMALL RUNWAY AND EXTEND IT TO BE THE FUTURE MAIN RUNWAY OF ABOUT 10,700 FEET.
TAKE THE EXISTING RUNWAY, LEAVE IT, OR MAYBE OVER TIME IT WOULD BE SHORTENED DEPENDING ON F A, A FUNDING AVAILABLE.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS WE'RE NOW, WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT.
SO WE'VE ELIMINATED EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WE'RE NOW AT THE PRELIMINARY STAGE LOOKING AT THESE TWO ALTERNATIVES TO HOW TO GET TO A FINAL ON THE TERMINAL FRONT.
'CAUSE YOU ALWAYS START WITH THE BIG STUFF, WHICH IS THE RUNWAYS.
THEN YOU FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU HAVE ROOM FOR TERMINALS.
SO THE TERMINALS, ALL WE'VE UH, LOOKED AT RIGHT NOW IS VERY CONCEPTUAL THAT, UH, THERE IS ROOM TO REBUILD TERMINAL A IN ITS EXISTING LOCATION.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT AN EXPANSION OF THE TERMINAL AREA AND AREA THAT YOU SAW.
I THINK IT WAS CALLED NORTH AREA.
AND THAT LITTLE CLOUD, THERE'S ROOM TO GO TO THE NORTH WITHOUT DISTURBING ANY TENANTS FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
IF YOU GO FAR BEYOND THAT, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO LOOK AT SOME TENANT, UM, RELOCATION.
AND OF COURSE THAT WOULD ALL BE PART OF THE PROJECT.
IT WOULD ALL BE KEPT WHOLE AND ACCOMMODATED.
AND THAT'S WHAT THAT ORANGE BLOB IS THERE.
BUT UNDERNEATH THAT ORANGE BLOB IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, DIFFERENT WAYS TO MEET TO 20 AND 50 YEAR DEMAND.
SO THE 50 YEAR DEMAND COULD BE MET IN THAT ORANGE BLOB AREA.
AND AGAIN, 50 YEARS THERE WOULD BE TENANT IMPACT.
UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT NOW.
AND WHAT WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT IS, OKAY, HOW DO YOU GET THE ROAD TO THAT? THE ROADS TODAY AREN'T IDEAL.
THERE'S SOME, SOME ISSUES, ESPECIALLY CERTAIN TIMES OF DAY.
WE'RE AWARE THAT WE HAVE GOOD DATA ON THAT.
WE DID A LOT OF TRAFFIC COUNTING.
WE HAVE GOOD DATA AND WE'RE LOOKING WITH OUR LOCAL OFFICE WHO DO A LOT OF ROADWAY WORK AND HOW TO GET THE ROADS IN AND OUT OF THERE BETTER LOOKING 20 YEARS OUT AND EVEN 50 OUT AND EVEN 50 YEARS OUT.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT SOME OF THE MULTIMODAL OPTIONS, TRANSIT CONNECTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT AS PART OF OUR NEXT, UH, STEPS.
THIS AGAIN BEFORE HE MOVES ON.
SO JUST SET ANOTHER WAY AND FOR THE, FOR THE AUDIENCES WATCHING IT ON TELEVISION, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE TWO ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ARE TAKING THE EXISTING RUNWAY ONE THREE, RIGHT, WHICH IS OUR MAIN RUNWAY, AND EITHER KEEPING IT THE SAME DISTANCE OR HAVING THE ABILITY OVER TIME AS THE NEED OCCURS TO EXPAND THAT RUNWAY TO A LONGER RUNWAY TO ACCOMMODATE LARGER AIRPLANES TRAVELING TO EASTERN EUROPE OR TRAVELING TO SOUTH AMERICA OR ASIA.
SIMILARLY WITH THE, THE RUNWAY THAT'S PAR RUNNING PARALLEL TO THE EXISTING RUNWAY, UH, THAT'S THE SHORT GENERAL AVIATION RUNWAY THAT'S NOW ABOUT 5 50, 700 FEET LONG.
WIDEN IT AND EXPAND IT SO THAT YOU HAVE MORE CAPACITY IN, IN RUNWAYS THERE.
SIMILARLY, IT COULD BE BUILT OUT OVER TIME TO 8,500 FEET, WHICH IS THE CURRENT LENGTH OF THE, OF THE RUNWAY, MAIN RUNWAY.
OR IT COULD BE EXPANDED TO 10,700 FEET.
THAT'S, THOSE ARE THE TWO ALTERNATIVES.
AND WHETHER YOU DO THE EXISTING 1 1 3 RIGHT, EXPAND IT, OR YOU DO THE OTHER ONE AND EXPAND IT, THAT'LL BE A DECISION THAT'S GONNA BE MADE LATER ON WITH THE, WITH THE INPUT OF CITY COUNCIL.
BUT, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH WHAT YOU SEE RUNNING PERPENDICULAR TO THOSE TWO, UH, ALTERNATIVES.
THAT'S FOUR AND FOUR SLASH 2, 2 4, UH, TWO, TWO, UH, ALTERNATIVES THERE WOULD BE ONCE YOU BUILD SOMETHING IN 10, 20 YEARS, THEN YOU DON'T NEED THAT RUNWAY.
AND IT COULD BE REDUCED, SHORTENED TO BE A GENERAL AVIATION RUNWAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALSO AN ALTERNATIVE.
AGAIN, THOSE, THOSE ARE JUST WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
WE'LL COME, BUT WE'LL FIND THAT FURTHER AND PRESENT THAT TO COUNCIL PROBABLY IN THE SUMMER OR THE FALL.
IN FACT, IF I CAN ADD RUNWAY FOUR TWO TO SHORTENING, UH, OF THAT OR CLOSING, THAT WAS UNDECIDED.
UH, THERE'S SOMETHING WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IN PHASE ONE BECAUSE F A A, UH, HAS A, A NATIONAL POLICY TO NOT PAY FOR UNNEEDED RUNWAYS.
F A A PAYS FOR THE, THE BULK OF AIRFIELD PROJECTS.
AND THEY DECLARED SOME TIME AGO THAT THAT RUNWAY IS NOT TECHNICALLY NEEDED FOR CROSSWINDS BECAUSE YOUR WINDS ARE SO FAVORABLE IN THE MAIN RUNWAYS FOR CHANGE IN GREAT SHAPE.
SO UNLIKE SOME AIRPORTS WHO ARE FACING THIS NOW, THAT RUNWAY WILL LAST 20, 30 PLUS YEARS, IT'S BEING MAINTAINED VERY WELL.
AND SO THIS IS REALLY NOT AN ISSUE FOR 20 OR 30 YEARS.
BUT YEAH, WHEN YOU BUILD AN ALL PARALLEL EAST, UH, SOUTHEAST, NORTHWEST, UH, AIRFIELD, HAVING A BUNCH OF INTERSECTIONS WITH A WITH A CROSSING RUNWAY DOES NOT WORK.
AND SO OVER TIME IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE SHORTENED.
IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT PRIOR SLIDE.
THE, THE ONE WITH THE CLOUD? YEAH, THE ONE RIGHT NEXT TO THE ONE RIGHT BEFORE THAT.
SO THE ORANGE MARKINGS THERE, ONE OF 'EM, YOU SEE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S, IT'S A SMALLER ONE THAT'S, THAT'S TERMINAL A.
UM, AS JOHN INDICATED, THE, YOU COULD, UM, REDO AFTER YOU BILL WHATEVER WE BILL IN TERMINAL C AS DEMAND REQUIRES IT, YOU COULD TAKE A AND EXPAND EITHER ALL OR A PORTION OF IT, UH, BUT IN ORDER TO REALLY DO THAT
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EFFECTIVELY, YOU COULDN'T HAVE RUNWAY 4, 2, 2 IN THE WAY.'CAUSE IT'S CURRENTLY IN, WOULD CURRENTLY BE IN THE WAY.
THAT'S WHY YOU CAN'T EXPAND IT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT GIVES YOU THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO IN SOME, THIS IS WHAT ALLOWS THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT TO ACCOMMODATE GROWTH OVER THE NEXT 50 YEARS IS THAT FLEXIBILITY TO DO THAT.
UH, SO SOME OF OUR NEXT STEPS INCLUDE, UH, YOU KNOW, WRAPPING UP THE ALTERNATIVES TO GET TO A FINAL ALTERNATIVE.
UH, GET INPUT FROM THAT ON THE COMMITTEES FROM CONSOLE, UH, BEFORE ANYTHING GOES FINAL.
UH, THERE'S OTHER FACTORS IN THERE WHERE I'LL JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT, AS I SAID EARLIER, HOW DO YOU PAY FOR THIS? AND I MENTIONED F A A PAYS FOR MOST OF THE AIRFIELD, BUT THERE'S OTHER PROJECTS IN THERE AS WELL.
SO WE NEED TO SORT THAT OUT FOR ALL PROJECTS.
AND WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THAT TO SOME EXTENT.
OF COURSE, ENVIRONMENTAL OVERVIEW.
WE NEED TO, UH, FLUSH OUT WHAT ISSUES MIGHT COME UP ENVIRONMENTALLY AND HOW TO ADDRESS 'EM AND WHAT KIND OF APPROVALS ARE NEEDED BEFORE ANYTHING ACTUALLY MOVES FORWARD.
AND THEN WE'LL TALK IN JUST A SEC HERE MORE ABOUT THE NOISE EXPOSURE MAP.
THIS IS JUST A, A HANDSOME GRAPHIC WAY OF SHOWING THE SAME THING.
SO PHASE ONE WAS WILL IT FIT? PHASE TWO IS HOW DO YOU MAKE IT FIT? WE'RE DOING THAT NOW.
AND THEN PHASE THREE WILL SORT OF, UH, TAPER OFF INTO THAT PHASE WHERE YOU GO INTO DESIGN AND ACTUAL STARTING ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVALS AND CONSTRUCTING WHATEVER YOUR FIRST PROJECT IS, WHICH IS UNLIKELY TO BE A 10,700 FOOT RUNWAY.
THAT'S A POTENTIAL ULTIMATE BUILD OUT.
IT'LL PROBABLY BE SOME SORT OF SMALLER PROJECT COMING OUT OF THE, THE PLAN FIRST.
AND THEN AS PART OF THAT IS ALSO THE NOISE EXPOSURE STUDY, WHICH JESUS WILL TALK ABOUT HERE IN A MINUTE.
AND THEN ULTIMATELY IT'LL BE CONSTRUCTION.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE STEPS AND APPROVALS BEFORE ANYTHING EVEN OUTTA THIS PLAN MOVES, MOVES FORWARD.
SO WITH THAT, LET ME, UH, HAND IT OVER TO JESUS TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE IMPORTANT TOPIC OF NOISE.
SO WITH WITH ANY LARGE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT PLAN, IF, IF YOU FAIL A PLAN, YOU PLAN TO FAIL.
SO THERE'S BEEN A NUMBER OF EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES THAT HAVE BEEN ONGOING AS WE GET TO PHASE TWO AND THE PREFERRED ALTERNATIVES.
IN PARALLEL WITH THAT, WE WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, AS YOU SEE THE EXTENSIVE OUTREACH THAT WE HAVE IN EACH OF THE SLIDES THAT WE'VE PRESENTED.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE CONTINUOUS OUTREACH TO EVERYONE WITH REGARDS TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE AIRPORT AND AND, AND WHAT, WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS.
NOISE EXPOSURE IS OF, OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE TO MOST.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT AIRPORTS AND THE LITTLE BIT OF A NOISE THAT THEY MAKE, I'M GLAD EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, ENJOYED THE JOKE, BUT THEY DO, THEY DO MAKE QUITE A BIT OF NOISE THERE.
EVERY FIVE YEARS WE WANT TO COME TO THE TABLE AND REVIEW THE OVERALL CONTOURS ON THE MAPS TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT WHERE THOSE DECIBEL LEVELS ARE AT.
SO, IN PARALLEL, AS WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH THE STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WE ARE GOING TO BE DOING THAT.
SO IF I GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES I WANT TO SHOW YOU, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT AND WE'VE, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR FIVE DAYS, BUT WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BECAUSE THIS TIMELINE MAP IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE AS TO HOW WE COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY TO TO, TO YOU ALL THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, EACH OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS, OUR FEDERAL AGENCIES, AND ALL OF THE TENANTS IN AND AROUND THE AIRPORT TO ENSURE THAT WE ARE COMMUNICATING WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THIS, THIS NOISE EXPOSURE MAP THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GOING TO DEPICT NEW AND FORECAST, UH, CONTOURS.
AND WE'RE GONNA COLLECT AND SHOW DATA ON THE MAP REGARDING CURRENT AND FUTURE ASSOCIATED LAND USE COMPATIBILITY.
UM, TOM, OUR LAST ONE WAS DONE PROBABLY FIVE YEARS AGO, SOMEWHERE IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO IT'S TIME FOR US TO DO A NEW ONE, AND WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON THE TIMELINE ON THE BOTTOM, ALL OF THE EFFORTS THAT ARE GONNA BE EXECUTING IN PARALLEL OVER THE NEXT THREE TO SIX MONTHS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE POSITIONING AND POISON OURSELVES FOR CONTINUOUS PROGRESS AT THE AIRPORTS.
UM, THE S D P ALTERNATIVE EVALUATION WILL CONSIDER POTENTIAL NOISE EXPOSURE, AS YOU HEARD THAT IN IN PHASE TWO.
SO WORKING IN, IN COLLABORATION WITH W S P, THEY'LL BE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
WE'LL BE WORKING CLOSE HAND IN HAND TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THOSE NOISE CONTOURS ARE MATCHED UP WITH EACH OTHER AS WE DO THE SD, THE, THE, THE STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE NOISE MAPPING.
AND, YOU KNOW, FINALLY THE NOISE EXPOSURE AND MITIGATION MEASURES WILL BE ADDRESSED BEFORE A PROJECT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED.
SO WHETHER IT'S AN EA AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OR AN E I SS AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY WILL BE TAKING THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS AND WORKING COLLECTIVELY WITH F A A TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
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SO THAT CLOSES OUT OUR, OUR OVERVIEW AND PRESENTATION TODAY.WE'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT EVERYONE, ANYONE MIGHT HAVE.
WE THANK YOU FOR, FOR LISTENING TO US ON EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD TO OFFER AND I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH THE IMPORTANCE THAT WE WILL BE CONTIGUOUS IN OUR EFFORTS TO REACHING OUT TO THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, I'LL START WITH JUST A QUESTIONS BEFORE I TURN IT OVER.
UM, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GROWTH IN THE AIRPORT, IS, IS ALL GROWTH THE SAME? SO IF WE GOT AN ADDITIONAL FLIGHT TO LAS VEGAS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS IT THE SAME AS THE FLIGHT TO DC IN TERMS OF GROWTH FOR YOUR, UH, FOR THE AIRPORT? YEAH, SO, SO, SO THAT'S ASSOCIATED HEAVILY AROUND THE MARKET DEMAND AND THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANT TO GO.
AND ARE THEY THE SAME? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
AS YOU BREAK THAT PARCEL INTO DOMESTIC VERSUS INTERNATIONAL ON WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS TO PREPARE OURSELVES FOR THAT GROWTH TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE CAPACITY OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE READILY BUILT AND AVAILABLE AS THAT CAPACITY STARTS TO COME IN.
WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SAN ANTONIO IN 2019 MOVED, YOU KNOW, 10 MILLION PASSENGERS, OVER 10 MILLION PASSENGERS LAST YEAR WITH OVER 300,000 PASSENGERS O THE YEAR PREVIOUSLY.
SO THERE IS, THERE IS PERCENTAGE GROWTH THAT'S MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION AS IT RELATES.
SPECIFIC TO YOUR QUESTION, EACH OF THOSE MARKET, UH, TRENDS ARE DIFFERENT AND VARIABLE, AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT BASED ON THE DATA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US.
AND SO, UM, IN, SO IS THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF PLANES COMING IN AND THE AMOUNT OF PLANES GOING OUT, USUALLY THE SAME.
LIKE, DO YOU HAVE A HUNDRED COMING IN, SO THEN YOU HAVE A HUNDRED GOING OUT? YEAH, SO IT, IT, IT CAN CHANGE.
DO I HAVE A HUNDRED, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL JETS THAT ARE HOLDING 75, 50 SEATS OR DO I HAVE A HUNDRED NARROW BODY, UH, SEAT AIRCRAFT THAT ARE HOLDING 1 51 75 AND DO I HAVE ANY WIDE BODY AIRCRAFT THAT CAN HOLD UP TO AN A THREE 80 THAT HOLDS 500 PLUS PASSENGERS? THAT CAN CHANGE BASED ON THE MARKET DEMAND AND THE TREND ANALYSIS THAT'S OCCURRING THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, THE EVOLUTION IN, IN IN, IN OUR GROWTH IN OUR CITY, WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY AND COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE AIRLINES TO INTRODUCE THE APPROPRIATE AVAILABILITY OF, OF, OF AIRCRAFT WITH THE AIRLINES.
AND THEN WHAT ARE THE APPROPRIATE MARKETS WE WANTED TO GO OUT AND REACH WHERE WE'RE GONNA GET THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR BUCK IN THE EFFORTS THAT WE MAKE.
BUT IT WILL CHANGE BASED ON AIRCRAFT DESIGN GROUP.
SO WHAT YOU SAW TODAY, AND WE START TALKING ABOUT THE EXTENSION OF RUNWAYS.
YOU KNOW, TODAY, IF WE WANTED TO REACH WESTERN EUROPE, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY AND AVAILABILITY TO DO THAT WITH THE EXISTING RUNWAY THAT WE HAVE ON 13, RIGHT? IF WE WANTED TO REACH WESTERN EUROPE THAT'S ALREADY PRESENT AND AVAILABLE TO YOU, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE CENTRAL TERMINAL, THE CENTRAL TERMINAL AREA, AND WHAT DO YOU HAVE AVAILABLE? SO IT'S A CANVAS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN DETERMINING WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE READILY AVAILABLE TO HANDLE THIS GROWTH THAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE.
YOU SAW THE MAP OF WHAT THE PROJECTIONS AND FORECASTS ARE, AND THEN WHERE DO WE WANT TO TRY AND GET TO THAT HELP BE THE ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
BUT, BUT COUNCILMAN, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, I JUST, THE, THE ANSWER'S THE ANSWER'S GENERALLY YES.
SINCE WE'RE AN ORIGINATION AND DESTINATION AIRPORT, GENERALLY SPEAKING, AND SOMEBODY CAN CORRECT ME OVER THERE, WE HAVE ABOUT 10 MILLION, 200,000, ROUGHLY HALF OUR ARRIVALS AND ROUGHLY HALF OUR, OUR DEPARTURES.
THAT'S GENERALLY, THAT'S GENERALLY THE CASE.
AND THEN I GUESS JUST, UH, UH, SO 10.3 MILLION A YEAR, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK YOU DIDN'T SPECIFY IF THAT WAS A YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
THAT'S A YEAR AND THAT'S, THAT'S TOTAL OPERATIONS.
TOTAL OPERATIONS, TOTAL PAYMENT AND CLAIMS. YEAH.
PLANES AND PLANE, YOU KNOW, PLANES, LANDING, PLANES TAKING OFF.
THAT INCLUDES, UH, BELIEVE THAT INCLUDES GENERAL AVIATION.
AND DOES IT INCLUDE, UH, CARGO, CARGO AS WELL? IT DOES CARGO.
SO I JUST SAW AN ARTICLE COME THROUGH A LITTLE WHILE AGO THAT A LOT OF PLANES ARE DOWN THE BOEING LARGE BOEING PLANE.
SO WHAT DOES THAT DO TO, UH, OUR S OPERATIONS WHEN WE HAVE THEM DOWN? I THINK IT JUST CAME IN RIGHT BEFORE I WALKED IN THE, TO THE ROOM.
AN ARTICLE IN THE PAPER YOU'RE REFERENCING THE 7 3 7 MAX.
SO IT, IT, IT'S, IT'S ENORMOUS IMPACT AS WE TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT'S NOISE OR OR AIRCRAFT AVAILABLE FOR THE MARKET THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, SEATS TO, UM, THE NEWER AIRCRAFT ARE SLEEKER, DESIGNED MORE BETTER, BETTER BUILT MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY
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AND NOISE FRIENDLY.SO IS IT AN IMPACT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEN FOR THE AIRLINES, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MOVING FROM 150 PLUS SEATS TO A HUNDRED AND SEVENTY FIVE, A HUNDRED EIGHTY SEATS WITH THESE NEWER AIRCRAFT WHERE YOU CAN MOVE MORE PEOPLE MORE EFFICIENTLY.
YOU KNOW, YOU HEARD A LITTLE REFERENCE ON RANDOLPH AS WELL.
SO FOR THE AIRLINES, IT'S ABOUT BEING EFFICIENT AND WE HAVE TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE POSTURED TO, TO PROVIDE AND BE COMPETITIVE WITH WHAT THEIR WANTS AND NEEDS ARE.
SO THE, THE, UH, DOWNING OF THE 7 37 MAX, IT HAS HAD AN IMPACT ON OPERATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO.
UM, THERE ARE SOME CARRIERS THAT RELY MORE HEAVILY THAN OTHERS ON THAT NEW, THOSE NEW PLANES COMING IN.
SO THAT'S PUT STRESS ON ON THEIR, UM, THEIR PLANE UTILIZATION.
SO WE HAVE HAD SEEN, WE HAVE SEEN SOME, UH, NONSTOPS THAT PREVIOUSLY EXISTED THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN TEMPORARILY REMOVED.
UH, NOTWITHSTANDING ALL OF THAT, WE STILL SEE AN INCREASE.
WE STILL HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE YEAR OVER YEAR OF, OF FLIGHTS, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN LIKELY, LIKELY TO HAVE BEEN THE CASE.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREATER THAN THE TEN THREE THAT WE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCED HAD THAT NOT OCCURRED.
UH, COUNCILMAN CAB? HDA? THANK YOU, CHAIR.
UM, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE NOW BEYOND PHASE ONE.
THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, JOHN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOW BEYOND PHASE ONE, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE CRITERIA DETERMINING WHETHER THE AIRFIELD AND, UM, TERMINAL, UM, NEEDS FIT IS THE WORD WE'RE USING A LOT, RIGHT? MAY I HAVE ACCESS TO THE STUDY OR THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY? YOU MOST CERTAINLY CAN.
I NOTICED THAT DURING PHASE ONE, THERE WERE NO MEETINGS HELD IN DISTRICT SIX.
I WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A MEETING, BUT, UM MM-HMM.
SO I APPRECIATE THAT AND I WANNA CONTINUE TO, UM, SEE THAT.
AND I, ANY WAY I CAN HELP YOU TO ORGANIZE THE, UM, ROUNDUP CONSTITUENTS, I'D LOVE TO, TO HELP YOU WITH YOU, HELP YOU WITH THAT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN.
SIT DOWN AND YOU CAN EXPECT OUR RECIPROCATED EFFORTS WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF TO COORDINATE THOSE, THOSE MEETINGS AND EFFORTS.
UM, ON SLIDE 23, I, I'M SORRY, MAYBE I'M JUST NOT TOTALLY UNDERSTANDING IT, BUT WHAT IS IT, WHAT ARE WE ENDING UP ADDING? IS IT MORE AIR FIELDS, MORE TERMINALS, OR HOW MANY, HOW MANY AIRFIELDS OR TERMINALS, OR IS IT MORE, UM, A FOOTPRINT THAT WE'RE ADDING TO ON THE FOOT? YEAH, I'LL TRY AND GIVE YOU CONFIGURATION RIGHT ON, ON, ON, ON THIS EFFORT.
SO WE HAVE THREE RUNWAYS AT SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL, UM, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT 4, 2, 2, UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE 13, RIGHT? AND THEN 13 LEFT.
THE LONGER THE RUNWAY, THE FURTHER YOU CAN GO, IF THAT HELPS YOU IN, IN, JUST IN OVERALL AVIATION KNOWLEDGE, THE SHORTER THE RUNWAY, THEN THE SHORTER THE, THE REACH AND DISTANCE YOU CAN GET TO, WHICH, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IS IS PREDOMINANTLY UTILIZED, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR GA AIRCRAFT.
WHEREAS, YOU KNOW, UH, 13, RIGHT? AND 4, 2 2 ARE UTILIZED FOR LONG HAUL EFFORTS GOING INTO DIFFERENT, UH, UH, DESTINATIONS.
SO AS WE LOOKED AT EVERY AS, AND I SAY WE, 'CAUSE I'M PART OF THE TEAM NOW, BUT I'VE JUST BEEN HERE FOR FIVE DAYS.
BUT AS, AS WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THE ALTERNATIVES, IT IS A GRADUAL EFFORT TO CARLOS'S COMMENTS EARLIER, RIGHT? DO WE GO OUT AND BUILD THE 12,000 FOOT RUNWAY SO WE CAN, YOU KNOW, BRING AN ANTONOFF 1 29, UH, 1 25, THE LARGEST AIRCRAFT IN THE WORLD AND FLY ALL THE WAY ACROSS, YOU KNOW, TO, TO EASTERN EUROPE YET, WELL, LET'S CRAWL, WALK, AND RUN FIRST AND LET'S GET, YOU KNOW, THIS EXTENSION OR, OR THIS AND OR THIS EXTENSION AS THE ALTERNATIVES DEPICT TO SAY WHAT'S THE BEST CASE SCENARIO? SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO DEPENDENT RUNWAYS THAT ARE GONNA WORK IN PARALLEL WITH EACH OTHER.
IT'S GONNA PROVIDE REDUNDANCY TO US SO THAT AS YOU'RE DOING WORK TO ONE, YOU HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO STILL USE THE OTHER ONE FOR MAINTENANCE EFFORTS.
AND THEN AS WE LOOK AT THE C T A BEING ABLE TO EXPAND THAT, ARE WE ADDING TWO RUNWAYS THEN? ARE WE EXPANDING THE CURRENT, YOU'RE TAKING THE EXISTING RUNWAYS MM-HMM.
SO I NOTICED ON THE PAMPHLET YOU GAVE US THAT, UM, IT'S NOTED PHASE TWO WILL ALSO PRESERVE AIRSPACE AND LAND USE FLEXIBILITY.
I WAS GONNA ASK YOU WHAT THAT MEANT, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT HERE, MA'AM.
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IT'S MORE COUNCILWOMAN THAN, THAN IT, IT IS, IT DOES ALLOW US THE REDUNDANCY IN THE SENSE THAT IF YOU ARE HAVING, UH, WORKED ON A ONE RUNWAY, YOU CAN UTILIZE THE OTHER ON OCCASION YOU'D HAVE AN AIRCRAFT THAT, THAT MAY, UH, BE DISABLED ON, ON A MAIN RUN.KNOW WE'VE HAD THAT IN THE PAST WHERE A GENERAL AVIATION PLANE, A JET IS LANDED ON ON ONE THREE, RIGHT? OUR MAIN COMMERCIAL, UH, RUNWAY WHEN 4, 2, 2 WAS BEING WORKED ON AND IT HAD OPERATIONAL PROBLEMS. SO THAT LITERALLY SHUT DOWN OUR AIRPORT BECAUSE WE HAD A PLANE THAT LANDED THERE.
SO IT DOES PROVIDE THAT REDUNDANCY, BUT MORE THAN THAT, IT ALLOWS YOU TO HAVE NEAR SIMULTANEOUS OPERATIONS.
SO EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PARALLEL TO PRETTY CLOSE TOGETHER, ONCE THEY'RE BUILT IN 10, 15, 20 YEARS, ONCE IT'S COMPLETED, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A PLANE DE DEPARTING AND ANOTHER ONE LANDING FAIRLY CLOSE IN TIME TO EACH OTHER.
THAT INCREASES YOUR ABILITY TO, TO SERVE, TO, TO, TO HANDLE THE OPERATIONS.
AND YOU KNOW, THE MOST FRUSTRATING THING IN THE WORLD FOR BOTH COMMERCIAL AIRLINES AND PASSENGERS IS WHEN YOU GET ON A PLANE AND YOU SIT 'CAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE OFF OR YOU CAN'T LAND 'CAUSE THERE'S OTHER PLANES OVER THERE.
SO THIS KEEPS OUR AIRPORT OPERATING EFFICIENTLY.
UM, TIME IS MONEY FOR AIRLINES.
THEY WANT TO BE, THEY WANNA LOAD YOU AND GET YOU, GET YOU ON THE WAY.
UH, WHEN TALKING ABOUT PARALLEL RUNWAYS, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT'S THE FIRST THING OUT, OUT OF THE GATE.
UH, THERE IS NO DELAY THE AIRPORT IN TERMS OF AIRCRAFT SITTING AROUND WAITING TO DEPART LIKE YOU HAVE AT SOME AIRPORTS.
SO ONLY WHEN DELAYS START TO INCREASE IS THAT SOMETHING YOU LOOK AT? WHEN WE DID OUR PROJECTIONS, WHICH ARE DOCUMENTED OR IT'S ON THE, ON THE, UH, WEBSITE CHAPTER CALLED THE FACILITY REQUIREMENTS.
YOU MAY START TO SEE SOME DELAYS AROUND THE END OF THE PLANNING PERIOD AFTER YOU MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS TO THE EXISTING RUNWAY, YOU CAN PUT SOME BETTER EXITS IN, FOR EXAMPLE, TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE RUNWAY FASTER, WHICH ALLOWS THE NEXT PLANE TO USE YOUR RUNWAY MORE QUICKLY.
THAT POSTPONES THE NEED FOR PARALLEL RUNWAY.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EXTENSIONS AND PARALLELS.
AGAIN, IT'S OUT THERE IN, IN THE FUTURE, AND I UNDERSTAND SO MUCH OF THIS IS, UH, IN THE FUTURE, SO WE CAN'T REALLY PREDICT THAT.
BUT, UH, AS MUCH AS WE CAN, YOU CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE US WITH DATA SO THAT I, WE, WE CAN JUST READ THE DATA THAT'S INFORMING YOUR, UM, THE DECISIONS AND THE, AND THE PROJECTIONS.
UM, AND THEN WE, WE WILL ALSO, JUST TO, TO YOUR EARLIER QUESTION, UM, WE'RE STARTING EFFORTS AND INITIATIVES RIGHT NOW TO PUT IT ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO IT'S NOT ONLY AVAILABLE TO YOU, BUT IT'S AVAILABLE TO EVERYONE.
WE WANNA HAVE FULL TRANSPARENCY IN EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING.
I'D LOVE TO SHARE THAT ON OUR, UM, NEWSLETTER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, OF THE PROPOSED AIRFIELD CONCEPTS, WHICH ONES, UH, ARE GONNA BE THE MOST DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT, OR WHICH ONE IS DO YOU THINK IS GONNA BE THE HARDEST TO IMPLEMENT?
UH, BUT, UH, AS YOU TAKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL EFFORTS, SO WHETHER WE GO THROUGH AN ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT OR AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT STUDY, THAT WILL BE PROBABLY THE MOST LABORIOUS EFFORT WE HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR FEDERAL AGENCIES WITH F A A TO ENSURE THAT THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING IN IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO, UM, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, UH, AS I LOOK AT IT JUST BRAND NEW INTO, INTO, INTO SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL, UM, I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY GET TO TWO PARALLELS AS, AS SOON AS WE CAN, BUT AT THE SAME TOKEN, WE GOTTA TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE CENTRAL TERMINAL AREA AND THEN WHAT IS THE DEMAND AND, AND CAN WE MEET THE CAPACITY GOING FORWARD WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US TODAY.
AND COUNCILMAN, UM, EITHER ALTERNATIVE, WHETHER YOU WOULD LOOK AT EXPANDING THE EXISTING ONE THREE, RIGHT, OR WIDENING AND EXPANDING THE ONE THREE LEFT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING WORK ON AN, ON AN ACTIVE RUNWAY.
SO EITHER IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT CHALLENGE YOU DO AND, AND WILL LIKELY, AS THEY INDICATED THIS IS GONNA BE DONE IN PIECES BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO ACCOMMODATE TRAFFIC AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT AT NIGHT OR DO IT, YOU KNOW, DO IT, YOU KNOW, JUST AGAIN, YOU DO IT INCREMENTALLY AS YOU GO.
SO IT'S GONNA, IT'S A LONG TERM PROCESS.
UM, FINALLY REGARDING THE NOISE, UM, EXPOSURE MAP UPDATE, THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, STUDY I'D LIKE TO SEE, SEE AS IT, AS IT GETS, UM, UM, I GUESS ABSOLUTELY COMPLETED THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS COMPLETED.
UM, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE THAT OUTREACH TO YOU AND OTHERS ABOUT WHAT THE STATUS IS AND THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING.
UM, I THINK ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, THE COUNCIL AND A, A LOT OF THE AVIATION JARGON, UH, WE NEED TO, I THINK AN ACRONYM MAP OF WHAT ALL THOSE ACRONYMS ARE.
MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN FACT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY I WOULD, I WOULD MAYBE
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SAY THAT, UH, YOU, YOU MIGHT JUST CREATE A SIMPLE LEGEND.'CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHY SOMETHING'S CALLED ONE THREE, RIGHT, ONE THREE LEFT, WHICH ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU MIGHT SIMPLY POINT OUT RUNWAY A, RUNWAY B, AT LEAST FOR THIS COUNCIL.
I MEAN, I THINK IT'LL HELP WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, YOU, THIS IS HIGHLY TECHNICAL AND UH, AS WAS POINTED OUT IN ONE OF THE MAPS, UH, THE FACT IS THAT THIS AIRPORT IS, IS REALLY CLOSE TO RANDOLPH AIR FORCE BASE AND THE, THE RUNWAYS ESSENTIALLY ARE PRETTY MUCH POSITIONED THE SAME WAY.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS COR AS IT RELATES TO, ON THE DIRECTION ON, ON THE TAKEOFFS FOR 4, 2 2 AND TAKEOFFS AND LANDINGS.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE GETTING AT.
UM, AND SO IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO ALSO SORT OF SHOW IN RELATION, AS YOU POINTED OUT, IT'S KIND OF DUE EAST, BUT REALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE SAID, UH, FOR A LONG TIME.
YOU, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AIRPORT, IT'S ONE THING TO, TO SEE A MAP LIKE THIS, BUT IT'S ANOTHER ONE.
SO IT, I MEAN, REALLY THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF AIRSPACE THAT WE'VE GOTTA REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO.
UH, I THINK IT'LL HELP, HELP THIS COUNCIL UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT YOU MEAN BY RUNNING THESE, THESE RUNWAYS AND, AND WHY THEY'RE POSITIONED THE WAY THEY ARE.
UH, FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE POSITIONED THAT WAY BECAUSE OF THE PREVAILING WINDS, UH, COMING OUTTA THE SOUTHEAST.
AND SO THE NUMBERS ARE REALLY INDICATIVE OF WHERE THEY ARE ON THE COMPASS.
THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I I JUST WANNA POINT THAT OUT.
SO, UH, REGARDING THE, THE USE OF PARALLEL RUNWAYS, IF YOU LOOK AT RANDOLPH, YOU'LL SEE THAT RANDOLPH HAS PARALLEL RUNWAYS, IS THAT CORRECT? WHICH IS OPTIMAL AND AUSTIN HAS PARALLEL RUNWAYS.
SO I THINK YOU CAN SEE KIND OF WHERE WE'RE HEADED HERE AND, AND, AND WHY PARALLEL RUNWAYS MAKE SENSE.
WHAT I DIDN'T HEAR, UM, AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN PHASE TWO, UM, WAS REALLY, AND I'M, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THAT AIRSPACE, IS, IS HOW THIS RELATES TO RANDOLPH, HOW IT RELATES TO THE PORT AND HOW IT RELATES TO STINSON AIRPORT.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, ONE THREE LEFT IS A GENERAL AVIATION RUNWAY AND HOW, HOW CAN STINSON HELP IN A LOT OF THE STRATEGIC PLANNING YOU WANNA, IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN TALK ABOUT NOW? JESUS.
WELL, I, I, I CAN'T TALK TO IT.
UH, I'M, I'M, I'M REALLY DRINKING FROM A FIRE HOSE RIGHT OVER THE LAST FIVE DAYS.
BUT, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE GENERALS OF AIRPORT OPERATIONS AND WHETHER WE GO BACK TO THE PLANNING OF, YOU KNOW, THE FIFTH EDITION OF ALEXANDER T. WELLS AND HOW AIRPORTS ARE, ARE, ARE SET AND, AND AND PUT TOGETHER AT THE END OF THE DAY TO, TO YOUR POINT EXACTLY.
WHEN YOU GO INTO THE ABILITY TO BE, YOU KNOW, AND I'LL GO BACK INTO MY OLD UNITED PARCEL SERVICE DAYS, IT'S ABOUT EFFICIENCY.
CARLOS BROUGHT THAT UP BRIEFLY FROM AN AIRLINE STANDPOINT.
DO I WANT TO GET INTO AN AIRCRAFT TAXI OUT AND THEN WHAT THEY CALL HOLD SHORT WHERE YOU'RE SITTING BECAUSE RANDOLPH IS TAKEN OFF OR LANDING IN THE SIMILAR IN, IN, IN, IN INSIDE THAT AIRSPACE IN, IN CLASS B, WHAT THEY CALL CLASS B SPACE, DEPENDING ON WHAT, HOW HEIGHT YOU ARE ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
ARE WE GONNA HAVE PASSENGERS SITTING ON AN AIRCRAFT WITH 178 PASSENGERS BEING TOLD TO A PILOT TO HOLD SHORT BECAUSE I HAVE ACTIVITY OVER THERE AND DO, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE WANT TO DO THAT DURING THE DAY, WHICH OVERALL IS AN ECONOMIC IMPACT TO US, BECAUSE NOW I'M GONNA HAVE FIVE OR SIX AIRCRAFT LINED UP WAITING TO TAKE OFF BECAUSE EVERY THREE TO FIVE MINUTES IN THE SEPARATION THAT WE CAN CREATE AIRCRAFT COULD BE TAKEN OFF AND MOVING.
VERSUS IF YOU'RE IN THE PARALLEL SITUATION BASED ON WIND DIRECTION AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE FORECASTING TO PLAN OUT IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO, WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITHOUT ANY IMPACT TO THE OTHER AIRPORTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING US.
AND COUNCILMAN, CERTAINLY THE, UH, THE STINSON IS A, IS A PART OF OUR SYSTEM, GENERAL AVIATION'S PART OF OUR SYSTEM.
SO IT'S CONSIDERED IN CONNECTION WITH THESE OPERATIONS THEY'RE DOING.
UM, THE LAST, UH, STINSON MASTER PLAN WAS IN 2013, AS I UNDERSTAND.
AND SO WE'RE PROBABLY READY FOR AN UPDATE.
SO THE TIMING IS PRETTY GOOD FOR, FOR BOTH OF THOSE.
SO IT'LL BE CONSIDERED IN THE, IN THE CONTEXT OF IT IS A RELIEVER FOR THE SYSTEM.
IT IS AN ASSET FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR OUR SYSTEM.
UH, AND THEN AS WE DEVELOP A NEW MASTER PLAN, WE, WE WILL FIGURE OUT HOW
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TO MAXIMIZE THAT, THAT OPERATION.UH, AND, AND YES, THIS WAS, I MEAN, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE EXPLAINING KIND OF WHY, WHY I'M SAYING WE, WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE LOOKING AT, WHENEVER WE'RE DOING A PRESENTATION, UH, WHETHER IT'S STINSON OR INTERNATIONAL, REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT, AT LEAST IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, HOW, HOW THE AIRSPACE IN SAN ANTONIO IS INCREDIBLY COMPLEX.
IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM AUSTIN.
UM, AND IT'S VERY DIFFERENT FROM HOUSTON.
AND SO THOSE, THOSE ARE THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER HALF OF THE LIMITATIONS.
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT YOUR RUNWAY IS AND, AND THE POSITION, BUT RATHER THE AIRSPACE IN WHICH IT'S, IT'S GOING TO, AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP THIS COUNCIL UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE DRIVING AT POINT, WELL TAKEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT BEING SAID.
I ALSO JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE, YOU KNOW, MY, MY PUSH TO, TO MAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, STINSON AND THE PORT MORE PART OF A, OF, OF AN, UH, OF, OF AN ENTIRE AIRPORT SYSTEM FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE I THINK WE COULD ALL BENEFIT FROM ALL THREE, UM, AIRPORTS, UH, WORKING TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE MASTER PLANNING EACH AIRPORT, WE'RE CONSIDERING HOW THEY IMPACT ONE ANOTHER, UH, MORE, MORE, UH, AS YOU POINT OUT EFFICIENTLY.
I, I, I LIKE THE WORD OPTIMIZED, YOU KNOW, I, I I WANNA BE ABLE TO OPTIMIZE EACH AIRPORT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY STINSON AIRPORT AS A GENERAL AVIATION PERSON MYSELF.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER KEY POINT TO MAKE IS, IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GENERAL AVIATION, CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT GENERAL AVIATION IS? HOW IS IT DEFINED? YEAH, SO, SO BASICALLY GENERAL AVIATION IS JUST SMALLER AIRCRAFT THAT ARE BEING UTILIZED TO GO INTO SHORTER DISTANCES BY PEOPLE THAT PERSONALLY OWN THEIR OWN CRAFT, OWN AIRCRAFT, AND ARE, YOU KNOW, COORDINATING EFFORTS FOR HANGAR USE.
SO TO, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR POINTS AND, AND EXAMPLES THAT YOU'RE, THAT, THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING, I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR, FOR SIX DAYS, RIGHT? BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING INTO, AND I, I'M PLANNING ON VISITING, IN FACT, I'VE GOT A VISIT TOMORROW TO STINSON, WHAT AS A HOLISTIC APPROACH, AS WE LOOK AT COMMERCIAL GENERAL AIRCRAFT AIRLINES THAT ARE, ARE, ARE DIFFERENT, UH, AIRCRAFT THAT ARE USED NOT IN COMMERCIAL EFFORTS, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE OVERALL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POSTURE FOR ALL OF THE AIRPORT SYSTEM? SO I'LL DO MY VISIT TOMORROW.
I, I, I APOLOGIZE, I HADN'T VISITED STINSON YET, BUT I'LL BE VISITING STINSON TOMORROW, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN FOR STINSON AND HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THE OVERALL POSTURE OF STINSON, NOT, NOT ONLY FOR GA USE, BUT FOR OTHER USES AS WELL.
AND, AND JUST, JUST, AND, AND I'LL JUST GIVE YOU MY DEFINITION OF GENERAL AVIATION.
GENERAL AVIATION IS YOU TAKE OUT PASSENGER AVIATION, YOU TAKE OUT MILITARY AVIATION, YOU TAKE OUT CARGO, AND IT'S EVERYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? GENERAL, IT'S EVERYTHING.
THAT'S WHY IT'S CALLED GENERAL AVIATION.
AND, UH, IT'S A HUGE INDUSTRY.
AND I, AND I REALLY WANT US TO, TO, TO CAPTURE THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
I THINK IT'LL HELP THIS AIRPORT, IT'LL HELPIN AIRPORT AND, UH, SAN ANTONIO AS A WHOLE.
UM, THE OTHER THING, SO ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS AT WHAT CAPACITY ARE WE RUNNING RIGHT NOW AT THE AIRPORT AS IT RELATES TO FLOW RATE? UH, YEAH, JUST WHAT'S THE OVERALL CAPACITY? OUR AIRPORT, SO WE SAID WE HAD 10 MILLION, UH, TRIPS.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT IS THAT IN RELATION TO PERCENTAGE OF THE MAX COUNTY? YES.
UH, I MEAN, I, I CAN BREAK IT DOWN.
I, I DON'T KNOW THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.
UH, UH, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED JUST YET, BUT I CAN TELL YOU 70% OF OUR OPERATIONS ARE BEING UTILIZED OFF OF THIRTEENS OFF OF THE THIRTEENS.
AND THEN THE OTHER 30% ARE BEING RUN OFF OF THE FOUR 20 TWOS AS IT RELATES TO AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS.
UM, WE'RE DOING 10.3 MILLION PASSENGERS PER YEAR, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY ON FLOW RATES AND ON THAT.
I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
ONE IS PASSENGER BOARDINGS OR MENTS AND DEPLANING, WHICH IS THE 10.3 MILLION NUMBER.
UH, THE OTHER IS THE NUMBER OF OPERATIONS, AIRCRAFT MOVEMENTS FLOWING THROUGH THE RUNWAY SYSTEM.
IN TERMS OF THE PASSENGERS IN THE TERMINALS, IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH PAIN YOU WANT TO PUT UP WITH.
SO, YOU KNOW, A LAGUARDIA, THEY'RE EXPANDING IT NOW, BUT, UH, LAGUARDIA HAD A MUCH HIGHER PAIN LEVEL, SO YOU COULD PUT A LOT MORE PEOPLE THROUGH THERE, BUT AT, AT WHAT, AT WHAT PAIN LEVEL? UM, SO IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT EXACTLY YOUR CAPACITY IS AT THE TERMINALS.
IT'S HIGHER THAN IT IS TODAY, BUT AT SOME POINT IT BECOMES VERY UNPLEASANT.
UM, AND FOR THE AIRFIELD, YOU'RE PROBABLY MAYBE 60% OR SO OF, OF CAPACITY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, IF YOU, IF YOU OPTIMIZE THE EXISTING RUNWAY TO USE YOUR WORD, THAT'S EXACTLY THE WORD WE USE.
THERE'S OPTIMIZING AND MAXIMIZING IN OUR WORLD, AND OPTIMIZING IS FIXING THE RUNWAY EXITS TO GET THIS AIRCRAFT
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OFF THE RUNWAY FASTER, UH, AT, AT A BETTER POINT WHERE THEY'RE READY TO EXIT, THAT REDUCES THEIR RUNWAY OCCUPANCY TIME INCREASES THE THROUGHPUT OF THE RUNWAY.IT'S ABOUT 230,000 ANNUAL OPERATIONS, UH, IS WHAT WE ESTIMATE.
AND YOU'D REACH THAT RIGHT AROUND THE END OF THE, THE PLANNING PERIOD OR A LITTLE BIT AFTER.
SO THAT'S, SO, SO WE'RE RUNNING CURRENTLY AT 60%.
THAT MEANS WE CAN INCREASE, UM, BY, BY THAT MUCH.
RIGHT? SO IF WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT QUITE CLOSE TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OPERATIONS.
AND LASTLY, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE NOISE EXPOSURE MAP, UH, I, I NOTICED, UH, AT LEAST WHEN IT COMES TO DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOODS, I WOULD ASK YOU TO, TO VISIT WITH THE, UH, NORTH CHERRY HILLS, UH, RIDGEVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THAT IS THE, THE ONE THAT'S ON THE GLIDE PATH FOR RUNWAY FOUR.
UH, AND HAVE, HAVE OFTEN COMMUNICATED TO ME, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY, UH, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO, UH, THE AIRPORT AIRPORT OFFICIALS REGARDING THAT, UH, NOISE MAP.
AND SO THAT IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT, THAT'S ACTUALLY AFFECTED, AT LEAST IN DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL SAYS RIDGEVIEW, RIDGEVIEW RIDGE RIDGEVIEW, UM, SHE HILLS.
WE'LL MAKE IT A POINT TO COORDINATE WITH YOUR STAFF TO ENSURE THAT WE GET THERE.
UM, WELCOME MR. SIGNS AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR, ON YOUR APPOINTMENT.
UM, JUST, UH, REAL QUICK, UH, PART OF THE PRESENTATION TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE INITIAL ASSESSMENT AND YOU LOOKED AT HOW WE COULD GROW AND WHETHER OR NOT THE CURRENT LOCATION WOULD, UM, ACHIEVE THAT CAPACITY.
I REMEMBER THE LAST TIME WE, WE HEARD THIS PRESENTATION WHEN COUNCILMAN SYA WAS STILL HERE AND CHAIRING THE COMMITTEE.
THERE WAS TALK ABOUT EVALUATING A NEW LOCATION FOR THE AIRPORT.
BUT, UH, CAN YOU REMIND US WHY THAT WAS NOT, UM, THAT WE DIDN'T PURSUE THAT? RIGHT.
SO WE FIRST ANSWERED THE QUESTION WHETHER IT COULD BE MADE TO FIT HERE OR NOT, AND THEN IF NOT, WE WOULD PURSUE INVESTIGATION OF A NEW SITE.
UM, THE CLOUD DIAGRAM YOU SAW EARLIER SHOWED THAT DIFFERENT RUNWAY OPTIONS ARE POSSIBLE IN THE EXISTING SITE, AS ARE MULTIPLE TERMINAL OPTIONS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE 50 YEAR DEMAND.
AND SO IF YOU CAN MAKE IT FIT ON THE EXISTING SITE WITH SOME ACQUISITION ON THE NORTHWEST THERE AS PREVIOUSLY SHOWN, UM, THEN THE PROCESS OF GOING TO A NEW AIRPORT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT.
THERE'S A WHITE PAPER WE DID ON THIS TO DOCUMENT FAS, UH, POLICIES.
IT'S ON THE, ON THE WEBSITE, UH, AND BASICALLY THE PROCESS IN THE UNITED STATES, UNLESS YOU HAVE UNLIMITED FUNDS OF YOUR OWN, THE THE PROCESS IS TO PROVE FIRST THAT YOUR EXISTING AIRPORT CAN'T MEET THE NEED.
THEN F FA A WILL SUPPORT YOU IN FINDING A SITE, FINDING THE BEST SITE MASTER, PLANNING IT, AND EVENTUALLY BUILDING IT.
FA WILL PAY FOR ALL THAT IF YOU CAN SHOW YOU NEED A NEW AIRPORT.
AND THERE, THERE IS NO CASE FOR THAT.
UM, THERE ARE IDEAS OUT THERE, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, CAN THE AIRPORT MEET THE NEED, THE ANSWER IS YES.
SO THAT'S WHERE IT KIND OF STOPS IN THIS COUNTRY.
JUST WANTED TO, TO REVISIT THAT.
UM, AND, UH, YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE OUTREACH THAT WAS DONE.
AND JUST A QUICK QUESTION IN THOSE POPUPS, HOW YOU DID SOME AT THE AIRPORT TOO? UH, YES.
IN THE, UH, BAG CLAIM AREA OF ONE OF THE TERMINALS AND IN THE CONSOLIDATED RENTAL CAR FACILITY AS WELL, TO MAKE SURE WE CAPTURED, UH, TRAVELERS WHO MIGHT BE LOCAL AS WELL AS PEOPLE WHO ARE RENTING CARS WHO ARE PROBABLY NOT LOCAL.
UM, BUT IF YOU DIDN'T RENT A CAR, CHECK A BAG, WELL, MOST PEOPLE STILL COME DOWN THE ESCALATOR OKAY.
AND EXIT THROUGH THE BAG CLAIM AREA.
WE, WE DIDN'T LIMIT IT JUST TO PEOPLE WITH BAGGAGE.
UM, UM, BUT, UH, SPEAKING ABOUT INPUT, UM, WE'VE SEEN ADVERTISING, UH, OUT OF THE CLERK'S OFFICE FOR THE AIRPORT ADVISORY, UH, COMMITTEE.
AND SO A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I WANNA HEAR ABOUT HOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKED WITH THEM.
BUT I ALSO WANNA HEAR FROM YOU, CARLOS, WHAT THE PROCESS IS FOR SELECTING THOSE, UM, THE, TO FILL THOSE VACANCIES, IF THAT'S GONNA COME TO THIS COMMITTEE OR ELSEWHERE.
COUNCILMAN, I BELIEVE IT'LL COME TO THIS COMMITTEE.
UH, SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO CHECK MY MATH HERE, UNLESS IT'S A BRAND NEW APPOINTMENT.
THERE MAY BE A GOVERNANCE, UH, STOP OFF AS WELL.
BUT THEY WOULD COME TO THIS COMMITTEE, AND SO WE WILL, UM, I'LL HAVE THE TEAM LOOK AT AND SEE IF WE HAVE ANY VACANCIES.
DO Y'ALL KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY VACANCIES ON, ON THE, SO WE'LL NEED TO COME TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO WILL COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, TO, TO DO THAT, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO WE'LL BRING THAT TO THIS COMMITTEE.
SO, UM, I, I JUST LOOKED MYSELF AND THERE'S, UH, NINE APPOINTMENTS THAT EXPIRE IN MARCH.
AND THEN OF THE ONES THAT DON'T EXPIRE IN MARCH,
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WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO HAVE RESIGNED.SO THAT'S 11 OUT OF THE 19, UM, PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EITHER REAPPOINT OR SELECT NEW PEOPLE.
SO I THINK IN LIGHT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, YOU MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, POPULATE THEM.
APPROPRIATELY SO, UM, CAN YOU TELL US HOW THEY'VE HELPED YOU IN THIS PROCESS? YOU MIND ADDRESS THAT ONE? YEAH, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE'VE BRIEFED THEM AS WE WENT ALONG.
UM, WE ALSO HAD THEM ACTUALLY PARTICIPATE IN THE SKETCH PLANNING EXERCISE.
SO WHEN WE SHOWED YOU THE 91 ALTERNATIVE, THEIR INPUT WAS REFLECTED, UH, IN THAT THEY WERE ONE OF THE INVITED GROUPS TO THAT ACTIVITY.
AND WE PLAN ON MEETING WITH THEM.
AGAIN, WE JUST SHOWED YOU THE TIMELINE WITH THE MEETINGS COMING UP IN MARCH.
I FORGET THE DATE OFF TOP OF MY HEAD.
LET ME LOOK ON MY CHEAT SHEET HERE.
THE 17TH OF MARCH IS WHEN WE'RE, I THINK YOU, WHEN WE'RE, UH, SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH THEM AGAIN.
SO WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THEM? LIKE HOW HAS THAT, UM, CHANGED OR SHAPED ANY OF THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'RE TAKING? PART OF WHAT HAPPENED IN PHASE ONE IS THERE, AND OTHER COMMITTEE PARTICIPATION TOLD US THINGS LIKE, UM, SOME OF THE AMENITIES THEY WANTED IN THE TERMINAL, THINGS THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE PROBLEMS AT THE AIRPORT TODAY.
SOME OF THE OUTREACH DIRECTION WE GOT WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, IN, IN PHASE ONE, WE SHOWED YOU, WE HAD MEETINGS IN ALL QUADRANTS OF THE CITY TO OPEN HOUSES.
SOME WERE NOT WELL ATTENDED BECAUSE PEOPLE AREN'T AFFECTED BY THE AIRPORT AS MUCH IN SOME AREAS AS THEY'RE IN OTHERS.
AND SO PEOPLE TOLD US, HAVE YOUR NEXT MEETINGS AROUND THE AIRPORT, PLEASE.
SO THERE WERE SOME SCOPE CHANGES MADE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE TYPES OF SUGGESTIONS.
AND I KNOW THIS IS FOR LONG-TERM PLANNING, BUT, UM, HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANY OF THE EMPLOYEES AT THE AIRPORT? UM, I IMAGINE THEIR, THEIR INPUT MIGHT BE MORE SHORT TERM, BUT YOU WEREN'T HERE
WELL, I KNOW, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, WE HAD A, WE HAD A DIVISION MANAGER MEETING THIS JUST THIS MORNING, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF NOT ONLY, YOU KNOW, OUR X NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES, BUT REACHING OUT TO OUR TENANTS AND TO OUR STAKEHOLDERS, RIGHT? YEAH.
THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TENANTS CORRECT.
TO, TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS HERE OVER THE NEXT THREE, SIX MONTHS.
WE'RE GONNA BE MOVING, YOU KNOW, PRETTY QUICKLY TO ENSURE THAT WE GET TO SOME, TO SOME FINAL ALTERNATIVES, COMMUNICATE THAT TO EVERYONE AND SAY, THESE ARE THE NEXT, THESE ARE THE NEXT STEPS IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE MOVING TOWARDS.
I CAN'T ANSWER HISTORICALLY, BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH EVERYONE.
COUNCILMAN, I BELIEVE, AND CHRIS OR SAYED MAYBE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION, BUT I BELIEVE WE DID ENGAGE NOT ONLY THE EMPLOYEES, BUT MANAGERS OF AIRLINES AND TENANTS AND SO FORTH AS PART OF THIS PROCESS ALL ALONG.
UM, I'M JUST TEASING YOU, CARLOS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, JUST, JUST LASTLY, UM, THE NOISE EXPOSURE.
I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU'VE, YOU'VE GOT TO DO THE NOISE EXPOSURE MAPS FOR THE REGULAR ROUTES, BUT WE KNOW THAT SOMETIMES IF A RUNWAY IS DOWN FOR WORK, UM, THE ROUTES ARE DIFFERENT AND THE NOISE EXPOSURE MAPS WOULD LOOK DIFFERENT.
UM, AND SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE FOR A FEW DAYS AT A TIME, OR IT CAN BE LONGER.
SO WHAT, UH, WHAT KIND OF EVALUATION DO YOU HAVE FOR, FOR THAT? SO THAT INFORMATION IS, IS IS DATA DRIVEN TO YOUR POINT, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC TYPE OF AIRCRAFT FLEET THAT'S NOT OPERATING, BECAUSE AS, AS COUNCILWOMAN REFERENCED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE 7 3 7 MAX IS DOWN AT THE TIME.
SO YOU MAY HAVE DIFFERENT NOISE DECIBEL LEVELS IN, IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
UH, WE'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AND ENSURE IN EACH ONE OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS THAT WE, THAT WE DEVELOP ARE GONNA BE TAKING ALL OF THAT INFORMATION INTO CONSIDERATION SO THAT WE DEVELOP VERY GOOD AND ACCURATE CONTOUR MAPS AROUND OUR AIRPORTS.
SO IS IT GOING TO BE LIKE AN AVERAGE OF ALL THE EXPOSURE, OR ARE WE LOOKING AT, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR YOUR, UM, FOR, FOR WHEN THIS RUNWAY IS OPEN AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR WHEN THIS RUN? DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING AT? BECAUSE JOHN, JOHN, WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE, I'M BY THE AIRPORT, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN SOMETHING'S, UH, ONE RUNWAY IS DOWN, WE HEAR A LOT OF, UH, OF NOISE.
SO WE USE, UH, A NOISE MODEL, F A A PRESCRIBES, AND WE'RE USING A SUB-CONSULTANT FOR SOME OF THAT WORK.
SO THEY'RE THE BEST, YOU KNOW, AMONG THE BEST IN THEIR FIELD.
UM, THE NOISE MODEL IS AN AVERAGE, BUT IT, IT PENALIZES FOR NIGHTTIME ACTIVITY.
SO I THINK IT'S AFTER 10 AND UNTIL BELIEVE 7:00 AM UH, THERE'S, UH, SO MANY DB PENALTY BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY NOISE IS MORE OF AN ISSUE FOR PEOPLE AT NIGHT OR EARLY IN THE MORNING.
UM, BUT IT DOES AVERAGE IT OUT NOW IF WE KNOW N E M, THE NOISE EXPOSURE MAP
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WILL LOOK AT A NEW EXISTING CONTOUR AND THEN A FIVE YEAR CONTOUR.THAT'S HOW THE FEDERAL PROGRAM WORKS.
AND THE FIVE YEAR CONTOUR WILL REFLECT WHAT'S GOING ON IN YEAR FIVE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE DELAYED THIS STUDY A LITTLE BIT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, SOON.
SO WE KNEW WHAT THE FUTURE AIRFIELD WOULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE IF THERE IS A CLOSURE OR AN EXTENSION IN UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THAT WILL CHANGE TRAFFIC AND THAT, THAT, THAT FIVE YEAR CONTOUR WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
SO NOW THAT WE'RE STARTING TO HONE IN ON THAT, ONCE WE HAVE A 20 YEAR PLAN, WE'LL BE ABLE TO BACK DOWN TO WHAT THE FIVE YEAR AIRFIELD, SO TO CALL IT, THAT WILL LOOK LIKE, AND WE'LL ACCURATELY BE ABLE TO MODEL THAT.
SO IF 4, 2, 2 IS GONNA BE DOWN FOR HALF A YEAR OR A YEAR, AND WE KNOW THAT, THEN WE CAN MODEL THAT ACCURATELY.
UH, BUT IT IS, IT IS MEANT TO BE AN AVERAGE TO GET A GOOD, YOU KNOW, OVERALL PICTURE.
BUT WE'RE STARTING SOME OF THE INPUT EFFORTS NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AIRPORT'S NEW DATA SYSTEM, WHICH COLLECTS EVERY FLIGHT BY RUNWAY, BY AIRCRAFT TYPE.
SO WE, WE WERE JUST GOING THE OTHER DAY THROUGH TWO YEARS WORTH OF DATA OF ACTUAL AIRCRAFT BY ACTUAL, UH, USE OF THE RUNWAYS.
SO WE HAVE PRETTY GOOD DATA ON WHERE EVERYBODY'S GOING.
WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, USING, UH, GENERAL ASSUMPTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND WELCOME HERE TO SAN ANTONIO.
UM, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT ONLY BEING HERE FIVE DAYS ONLY WORKS FOR THIS MEETING TODAY,
FROM HERE ON OUT, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT ANYMORE.
THERE'S ANOTHER ONE TOMORROW THAT I HAVE TO BE AT
UH, AGAIN, WELCOME HERE TO SAN ANTONIO.
THANK, IT'S GOOD TO, GOOD TO HAVE THIS POSITION FILLED.
UM, JUST A SHOUT OUT FOR RUSS HANDY.
HE DID A FANTASTIC JOB AND, AND, UH, WANNA SEE THAT FANTASTIC JOB CONTINUE.
SO THANKS YOU AGAIN FOR ACCEPTING THE OPPORTUNITY.
UH, I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS HERE FOR YOU.
UH, AND ONE OF 'EM, JOHN, YOU MENTIONED IT WHILE AGO THAT WE HAD MILITARY, UM, PARTICIPATION IN MEMBERSHIP ON THE COMMITTEES, BUT WHEN I WENT THROUGH THE LIST, I SAW NO MILITARY ACTIVE DUTY PEOPLE ON EITHER THE BIG COMMITTEE, THE, THE HIGH COMMITTEE OR THE COMMITTEE SUBCOMMITTEE UNDERNEATH THEM.
SO CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE BIT? OKAY, YEAH.
THE A S THE A S D C COMMITTEE, THE JOHN DIXON COMMITTEE WAS APPOINTED BY THE MAYOR AND IS, I THINK IT'S, UH, PRIMARILY RETIRED.
I, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD IF THERE'S ACTIVE DUTY PEOPLE ON THAT COMMITTEE, BUT WE HAVE THE ROSTER OF ALL THE OTHER COMMITTEES HERE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE FROM RANDOLPH AND WE HAVE SEVERAL OTHER MILITARY, THE JOINT BASE REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL.
I MADE THIS COMMENT DURING THE, THE PRESENTATION, THE VERY FIRST PRESENTATION ON PHASE ONE, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS ACTIVE DUTY, A BASE OPERATOR OR, OR WHATEVER FROM THE FIVE OH SECOND.
AND THAT STILL NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
AND WE HAVE GOT TO GET THAT MEMBERSHIP ON THOSE COMMITTEES, A NAME AND A BODY, NOT NECESSARILY UNIFORM BECAUSE THOSE UNIFORMS CHANGE EVERY COUPLE YEARS, BUT AT LEAST A CIVILIAN IN THE BASE OPERATIONS AREA THAT CAN TALK ABOUT FLIGHT PATTERNS, WHAT THE CURRENT AIRFRAMES ARE, WHAT THE FUTURE AIRFRAMES ARE.
I UNDERSTAND WE HAD, UH, GENERAL RICE AND RUSS, UH, GENERAL HANDY, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE OPERATORS, THEY WERE PILOTS, BUT THEY'RE RETIRED.
THEY'VE BEEN RETIRED FOR A WHILE.
SO COUNCILMAN THERE, THERE WAS ONE ACTIVE DUTY PERSON WHO IS NOW LEFT.
UH, BUT YOU MADE THAT COMMENT.
SO, BUT, SO WE, WE WILL, WE'LL REACH OUT, TAKE THAT, REACH OUT TO GENERAL ERMAN.
AND, UH, UH, I'LL BE TALKING WITH HER ALSO ABOUT THIS, BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT CONSTANT COMMUNICATION ON THESE, ON THESE COMMITTEES, UH, WITH THE CURRENT OPERATORS THERE.
AND NOT ONLY AT RANDOLPH, BUT THIS, THEY, WE GOT A GUARD UNIT DOWN THERE, UH, F SIXTEENS.
SO, AND THAT'S, THAT'S BESIDES THE HEAVIES THAT ARE OPERATING OUTTA THERE THROUGH BOEING, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE MAINTENANCE.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME PRETTY HEAVY MILITARY OPERATIONS AROUND US THAT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE THAT MEMBERSHIP ON THAT COMMITTEE.
WE, WE WILL GET SOMEBODY AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR.
YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS LOOKS GREAT, SHOWS GROWTH IN THE NEXT UP TO 50 YEARS, BUT I WANNA SEE WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST 20 YEARS.
IS THIS ON THE RIGHT GLIDE SLOPE FROM HERE ON OUT TO THE NEXT 50 YEARS? WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE 20 YEARS AGO? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT GROWTH OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT WILL SHOW JUST AS MUCH VALUABLE DATA AS TO WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS VERSUS WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
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SO I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THOSE SLIDES EXTENDED OUT TO THE LEFT, EXCUSE ME, RIGHT TO THE LEFT TO SHOW THE LAST 20 YEARS.WHAT ARE OUR WAIT TIMES ON THE TARMAC? NOW? I, I, I DON'T HAVE THE ACTUAL FLOW RATE JUST AS OF RIGHT NOW, BUT I, I WOULD JUST FROM LOOKING OUT MY WINDOW THROUGHOUT THE PAST FIVE DAYS, THERE'S NOT VERY MUCH WAIT TIME.
UH, WELL, YEAH, I'VE, I'VE FLOWN A LOT OUT OF THIS AIRPORT AND THERE'S, I, I'VE NEVER SAT ON THE TARMAC WAITING.
THE ONLY TIME IS WHEN A CONNECTION THROUGH HOUSTON OR DALLAS, AND THEY WOULD NOT ALLOW A TAKEOFF A BECAUSE OF WEATHER OR WHATEVER ON THE, ON THE RECEIVING END, IF YOU WILL.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN WE, WHEN WE'RE PLANNING FOR THIS, AND IT COMES INTO WHETHER THE RECOMMENDATION IS GONNA BE FOR EXTENDING A RUNWAY, BUILDING A NEW RUNWAY OR WHATEVER, INDEPENDENT VERSUS DEPENDENT, UM, YOU KNOW, MY KEY DATA POINT ARE WHAT ARE THE WAIT TIMES AND WHAT THE EXPECTED WAIT TIMES ARE.
AND I, I JUST HAVEN'T SEEN 'EM HERE.
YOU KNOW, THE TERMINALS ARE FULLY USED AND SOMETIMES IT GETS VERY CROWDED IN THERE, BUT MY REAL MEASURE IS HOW LONG THAT PLANE IS SITTING ON THE TARMAC WAITING.
WHAT'S THE LINE? I'VE WAITED IN LINE AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF AT SOME OF THESE BUSY AIRPORTS.
SO, UH, UH, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLANATION IN THAT DIRECTION.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THE PROJECTED WAIT TIMES, NOT THE PASSENGER LOAD THAT'S NOT TELLING ME ANYTHING.
WHAT'S THE PROJECTED WAIT TIMES ON THE TARMAC? SO LET ME GET SOME INFORMATION AND WE WILL GO BACK AND IDENTIFY THE DESIGN CRITERIA FOR THE EXISTING RUNWAYS AND THE TERMINAL AND THE CENTRAL TERMINAL AREA, AND THEN GIVE YOU WHAT THAT DESIGN CRITERIA IS, WHAT THE FLOW RATE IS.
AND THEN AS WE MATCH THAT UP WITH OUR PASSENGER ACTIVITY LEVELS FORECASTED FOR THE NEXT 3, 5, 10 YEARS, WE CAN TELL YOU EXACTLY WHETHER OKAY, WE'RE ABOVE OR BELOW THE LINE AND GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND, AND AGAIN, JUST KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY GOING UP IN THE PASSENGER LOAD.
OKAY, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE WAIT TIMES? THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT TO ME, THAT'S THE, THE IMPORTANT DATA POINT COUNCILMAN.
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO THE F A A THEY FUND THAT AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT JUST BECAUSE WE ASKED FOR IT.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT WE NEED IT.
UM, AS JOHN INDICATES, UM, THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO TO, TO, TO EXPAND THE CAPACITY WITH THE EXISTING FACILITIES.
IT'LL BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S A RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO FOR THE AIRPORT.
IT'S ALSO GONNA BE DONE BECAUSE THE FA IS NOT GONNA LET US DO ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
UNTIL, UNTIL WE RUN OUT OF EVERY POSSIBILITY.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE HAVE TO BUILD WELL, AND THAT, THAT CARLOS, THAT DOVETAILS SO WELL INTO MY NEXT QUESTION IS WHY DON'T WE USE 4 2, 2 MORE AND WE'RE ONLY UTILIZING IT 30% OF THE TIME.
70% FOR ONE THREE, BUT ONLY 30% FOR 4, 2, 2.
WHY, WHY AREN'T WE COORDINATING AND USING THAT RUN RUNWAY MORE THAN THE 30%? I DON'T HAVE THAT ANSWER SPECIFICALLY FOR YOU TODAY, BUT LET ME SIT DOWN WITH THE AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL TOWER TO SAY, TO, TO, TO DEFINE THOSE ANSWERS.
IS IT PEOPLE THAT ARE JUST ACCUSTOMED TO THE FLOW RATE TO, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO'S, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION EARLIER ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WIND DIRECTION AND IT MAKES IT EASIER TO GO IN THAT DIRECTION? IT COULD BE.
OR IS IT BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANNA MOVE THAT SLOT BECAUSE I LIKE IT WHEN, YOU KNOW, UH, FLIGHT 1704 ARRIVES AT THIS TIME AND I JUST MOVE THE CHIP IN THAT AND IT'S EASY FOR ME.
SO I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU A WRONG ANSWER.
LET US GO BACK AND DEFINE THAT AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
AND, AND WHEN DIRECTION, THAT'S A GREAT, GREAT TOPIC FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, TODAY'S AIRCRAFT AND THE, AND THE PILOT TRAINING, THAT'S A, THAT'S A LESS OF A CONCERN THAT IT HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.
AND, UH, ALSO WHEN YOU'RE FINDING THAT DATA ON THE WIND, THERE'S WHAT PERCENTAGE OF TIME CAN'T WE USE THAT RUNWAY? CORRECT.
THAT'S, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DATA POINT ALSO.
UH, I, I REMEMBER A NUMBER OUT THERE THAT I HEARD HERE A WHILE BACK THAT IT'S ONLY LIKE MAYBE 2% OF THE TIME THAT WE CAN'T USE THAT RUNWAY BECAUSE OF CROSSWINDS.
SO IT'S A VERY, VERY LOW NUMBER.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S OPEN THAT THING UP.
IF WE'RE EXPERIENCING, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT EXPERIENCING THOSE DELAYS, BUT TO HELP ACCOMMODATE FOR THE FUTURE GROWTH HERE AT THE AIRPORT, LET'S OPEN THAT THING UP AND USE IT MORE.
AND I KNOW IT GOES INTO MORE CONGESTION IN THE AREA AND THE DIRECTION YOU'RE HEADING TO, ALL OF THAT GOES INTO PLAY.
BUT MY POINT BEING IS IF IT'S ONLY
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CLOSED 2% OF THE TIME BECAUSE OF CROSSWINDS, LET'S, LET'S SEE ABOUT USING IT MORE.THERE'S A, THERE'S A NUMBER OF VARIABLES AND FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT DECISION POINT.
AND WHICH IS WHY I PREFACE THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU AN INACCURATE ANSWER, BUT ANOTHER ONE THAT'S IMPORTANT IS, SO WHAT'S YOUR FINAL DESTINATION? AND IT IS EASIER FOR ME TO TAKE OFF ON 4, 2, 2 'CAUSE I'M GOING, YOU KNOW, IN THE EASTWARD DIRECTION AND I CAN TAKE OFF.
I'M JUST TURN, I TURN BACK, PUSH BACK, AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE I'M STRAIGHT IN LINE WITH THAT RUNWAY TO TAKE OFF AND GO BASED ON THE WAY THAT THE AIRPORT'S CONFIGURED.
SO LET US GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION BEFORE WE GIVE YOU SOMETHING.
WELL, THO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
AND AGAIN, VERY IMPORTANT ABOUT THE MILITARY ASPECT AND HAVING THE RIGHT REPRESENTATIVES ON THE RIGHT COMMITTEES AND HAVING THEIR NAME WRITE UP ON THERE AND PARTICIPATE IN, IN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, THESE, UH, RUNWAYS AND OPTIONS HERE.
SO, UM, I THINK I'VE EXHAUSTED MY LIST.
WELCOME AGAIN HERE TO SAN ANTONIO.
I JUST HAVE ONE FOLLOW UP, UM, REGARDING SOME OF THE SURVEYING THAT YOU DID.
DID PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE AREAS THAT HAVE MORE NOISE REPORT MORE NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT THE AIRPORT? LET ME ASK QUESTION.
CAN YOU, CAN YOU HELP ANSWER THAT? WE, WE DID THOUSANDS OF SURVEYS.
WE GOT 'EM FROM ALL, ALL CORNERS OF THE CITY AND ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE TRAVELING AND NOT TRAVELING.
CAN, CAN YOU ANSWER ANY OF THAT? YEAH, WE DIDN'T ASK YOU.
YOU'LL NEED TO GET UP THERE, GRETCHEN.
THIS IS GRETCHEN ROOFS, WHO'S OUR PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EXPERT ON OUR TEAM.
AND I'M ONE OF THE AIRPORT NEIGHBORS, MY HOUSE IN DISTRICT NINE.
UM, WE DIDN'T ASK PEOPLE SPECIFIC QUANTITATIVE QUESTIONS LIKE WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE AIRPORT? THE LAST SURVEY, FOR INSTANCE, ASKED PEOPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT DO YOU THINK OR WHAT AIRPORT AMENITIES DO YOU RATE THE HIGHEST? IS IT, UH, FAMILY RESTROOMS? IS IT SITTING AREA? IS IT, UM, CHA UM, CHARGING STATIONS? WHAT WE HAVE NOTICED, HOWEVER, SO WE, WE WEREN'T GETTING QUANTITATIVE RATINGS ABOUT THE AIRPORT PER SE, BUT WE ARE NOTICING A LOT OF 7 8, 2 0 9 ZIP CODE RESPONSES FROM, WE HAD OVER 700 SURVEY RESPONSES.
AND SO WE'RE SEEING MORE NEIGHBOR 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE STUDYING DEMOGRAPHICS AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
SO WE'RE SEEING MORE OF SEVEN.
OH, LIKE THAT, THAT ZIP CODE DISTRICT 10 AREA.
IT WAS JUST, YOU'LL HEAR MORE.
WAS WONDERING IF THAT, UH, FACTORED INTO THE SURVEYING IF THEY, IF THEY REPORTED IT A MORE NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE OVER THE NOISE.
SO ANYWAY, IT WAS MOSTLY FOR CURIOSITY.
NO, WE'RE, AND WE'RE STUDYING TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE FROM BECAUSE WE'RE, IF, IF FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD NO SURVEYS FROM DISTRICT ONE, WE WOULD AMP UP OUR EFFORTS TO DO POPUPS AND SO FORTH IN DISTRICT ONE, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD TO WORRY ABOUT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE USING DATA THAT'S, UM, QUANTITATIVE OB OBJECTIVE DATA VERSUS SUBJECTIVE.
SO ALL THE SURVEY INFORMATION THAT WE GET, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT AS QUANTIT QUANTIFIABLE AS POSSIBLE.
YOU CAN LOOK ONLINE AND SEE THE REPORT FROM I THINK 2,700 PEOPLE IN PHASE ONE.
AND WE'RE NOW WRAPPING UP, UH, THE FIRST PHASE, UH, FIRST SURVEY IN PHASE TWO, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO LAUNCH ANOTHER ONE IN MARCH FOR PHASE TWO.
WELL, I KNOW THIS WAS JUST FOR BRIEFING, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, I SUSPECTED THIS WOULD GO LONG.
UM, AND THE OTHERS, UH, ARE, WERE MY PERSONAL REQUESTS.
SO I'M, I'M HOPING, UH, THAT WE CAN RESCHEDULE THAT, UM, BRIEFINGS THE TWO, UH, WHICH WERE THE, THE CITY'S AUDITOR'S REPORT AND THE BICYCLE MASTER PLAN, UM, REPORT, UH, FOR THE NEXT COMMITTEE MEETING, I'M SURE.
UM, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT, COUNCILMAN? OH, UM, SO THAT, UM, I, I KNOW I HAVE A HARD STOP TODAY MYSELF, AND I HATE TO LEAVE YOU GUYS WHEN IT WAS ALL MY REQUESTS FOR THE BRIEFING.
SO YOU ALL ARE, UM, UH, SO SORRY GUYS.
I KNOW I MADE YOU ALL SIT HERE ALL DAY, BUT IT, IT WENT LONG.
UM,
BUT, UH, IT IS KIND OF, DO YOU HAVE A, A COMMENT JUST REAL QUICK, UH, WHEN WE DO HEAR THE BICYCLE PLAN UPDATE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHILE BACK WE SAW NEWS ABOUT, UH, SWELL CYCLE REMOVING THEIR, UH, ENDORSEMENT OF THE BIKE SHARE PROGRAM.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE'LL HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT IN FUTURE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO, UH, ALSO COME UP, BUT I THINK WE HAD SOME OTHER MORE PRESSING ISSUES
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SO WE CAN SEE WHEN WE CAN FIT THAT IN THE SCHEDULE.SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.
I DON'T WANNA GIVE A HARD TIME.