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WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED FOR TODAY'S PLANNING MEETING.
[Call to Order]
EVERYBODY.WE'RE CALLING TODAY'S PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER.
UM, CAN THE STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.
COMMISSIONER AURORA EGRIN? HERE.
NEXT ON THE AGENDA WILL BE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD.
UM, ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK NOW? YOU MAY OR YOU MAY WAIT TILL YOUR ITEM IS HEARD INDIVIDUALLY.
DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
[Consent Agenda]
IS THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.CASES PLACED ON THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA ARE CASES WHERE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION REQUIRES NO FURTHER DISCUSSIONS AND NO ONE HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK.
ALL CASES WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD FOR ONE UNIFIED MOTION.
IF SOMEBODY HAS SIGNED TO SPEAK, THAT ITEM WILL BE MOVED TO THE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA.
THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING AGENDA ARE CASES, UM, THAT WOULD BE DISCUSSED SEPARATELY PRIOR TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MAKING A MOTION ON THE ITEM WILL BEGIN WITH THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA.
AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR ITEMS NUMBER 11, 12, AND 13 IS AND 14.
IS THAT CORRECT? 11, 12, 13, AND 14.
AND EVERYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THAT WISHES TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK.
IF SO, THEN STAFF PLEASE READ THE COMBINED HEARING AGENDA INTO THE RECORD.
CHRIS MCCOLLUM, SENIOR PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WITH THE EXCEPTIONS OF ITEM NUMBER 11, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED FOR RECUSAL.
ITEM NUMBER 12 AND 13, AND ITEM 14, WHICH HAVE PULLED TO INDIVIDUAL.
UH, THE BALANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE READ INTO THE RECORD AS A SINGLE MOTION.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PECK FOR APPROVAL.
WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARDILLO.
THE STAFF CAN DO THE ROLL CALL VOTE.
COMMISSIONER ROHR ALLEG GREENY.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.
[11. 20-1807 19-11800385: Request by Marques Mitchell, Brooks Development Authority, for approval to replat and subdivide a tract of land to establish BCB – Unit 20C, generally located southeast of the intersection of Southeast Military Drive and Kennedy Hill. Staff recommends Approval. (Chris McCollin, Senior Planner, (210) 207-5014, Christopher.Mccollin@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).]
NUMBER 11, WHICH HAS BEEN PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.YOU'LL HAVE MORE MEETING LEFT BY THE WAY.
AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS LEFT THE ROOM.
UH, DO WE HAVE THE MOTION FOR, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 11.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PECK SECOND OR ITEM.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
CAN STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER PECK.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF EIGHT TO ZERO.
CAN ETTE COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ KNOW SHE'S WELCOME BACK.
IT IS TWO 14 AND COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ HAS RETURNED.
[12. 20-1888 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600014 (Council District 6): A request by Roger Perez, representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the West/Southwest Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Suburban Tier” to “Mixed Use Center” on Lots 8-12, NCB 17639, located at 5745 Easterling Drive and 5679 Easterling Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700040) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)]
ITEM NUMBER 12.[00:05:03]
GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.MICHAEL PEPPY PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 12, LOCATED AT 5 7 4 5.
EASTERLING IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE WEST SLASH SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO MIXED USE CENTER.
18 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET.
THERE WERE FOUR LETTERS FROM AREA HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS IN OPPOSITION WITH OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET.
STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE THE LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THIS PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE AND FUTURE LAND USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STEPH RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
WILL THE APPLICANT PLEASE PRESENT TO THE TO THE BOARD? GOOD AFTERNOON.
MY NAME IS ROGER PEREZ, 4 27 SOUTH ST.
I'M, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF MR. AND MRS. ARTURO AND ELIZABETH LOPEZ.
THEY'VE OWNED THE, THEY'VE OCCUPIED THE PROPERTY OVER 30 YEARS.
THEY'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY OVER 25 YEARS.
UH, THIS IS PORTION, A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT THEY OWN IN THE AREA.
SO THE, THE GOAL IN THE AREA, THE GOAL OF OF THIS PROPERTY IS TO EITHER LEASE OR SELL IT TO KIND OF A STRIP CENTER.
THEY'VE HAD A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO HAVE KNOCKED ON THEIR DOOR, UH, KB PHONE HOMES HAS ALSO TALKED TO, TALKED TO THEM ABOUT CERTAIN USES.
UH, SO THEY'RE JUST VERY INTERESTED IN, IN SEEING WHAT THEIR OPPORTUNITIES ARE.
AND I THINK AS MR. PE UH, APPROPRIATELY MENTIONED, IT'S AN AN APPROPRIATE USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
WE'RE ON THE ZONING, UH, COMMISSION AGENDA NEXT WEEK FOR C THREE NA.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MOVE IN THAT DIRECTION.
UM, FIRST PERSON SIGNED TO SPEAK IS JAN WELLS NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS 1 0 3 0 6 MOUNT EVANS.
THAT MAP THAT JUST WENT AWAY, IF IT WENT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S THE OLD QUARRY ON THE RIGHT.
THAT'S THE RURAL ESTATE TIER ON THE LEFT.
MINE PROPERTY'S THE VERY LAST ONE.
I HAVE A LARGE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT BORDERS A LOT OF WHAT USED TO BE THE OLD QUARRY.
UM, I AM OPPOSED TO THIS GOING TO A MIXED USE CENTER.
I WAS ON THE ORIGINAL WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR COMMITTEE OH, SO LONG AGO.
UM, MIXED USE CENTER IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT THEY'RE ASKING.
UM, IT IS DETACHABLE AND OR ATTACHED WALKABLE RETAIL SERVICES.
SERVICES SUCH AS CONVENIENCE STORES, LIVE WORK UNITS, CAFES, PANTRY STORES, HOTELS AND OTHER BUSINESSES.
THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, WHAT THEY WANNA UPGRADE TO.
UM, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE WANTING.
THE LAND THEY'RE WANTING TO, TO UPGRADE TO.
AND SO FAR UP UNTIL NOW, AT LEAST THEY HAVEN'T BEEN, UM, SHY ABOUT SAYING IT.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH THEM WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL.
THERE'S A HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF EASTERLING BEHIND THOSE LOTS.
UM, YEAH, IT'S, THE FAR RIGHT SIDE OF THAT PICTURE IS A HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND THEN THE BOTTOM DOWN THERE IS WHERE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS.
WE'RE CLOSE ENOUGH THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GOT A NOTIFICATION.
I MEAN THAT THEY'RE NOWHERE NEAR NEIGHBORHOODS IS NOT A TRUE STATEMENT.
UM, THEY HAVE, I HAVE BEEN ARGUING AGAINST THESE PEOPLE SINCE 1998 WHEN I MOVED OUT THERE.
UM, WE HAVE NOISE LEVEL FROM W A I ON RECORD AT AN INDUSTRIAL LEVEL.
THESE PEOPLE DON'T BELONG NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL.
AND I HOPE YOU DON'T FORWARD THIS PROCESS.
IT'S BEEN GOING ON WAY TOO LONG ALREADY.
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TO SPEAK IS CHARLES MAYO.CHARLES MAYO, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, I'M, I HAVE A PIECE OF A LITTLE BUSINESS ON EASTERLING MYSELF.
I'M RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH, PROPERTY THAT'S UNDER REVIEW.
AND I JUST CAME HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF I'M FOR IT.
AND, UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A BETTER, A LOT BETTER VALUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE'RE SURROUNDED BY, UH, DEVELOPMENT.
THE LAND THERE HAS BEEN VACANT FOR YEARS AND I JUST THINK IT'D BE A, UH, A BIG IMPROVEMENT FOR THAT AREA.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT AT ALL.
I'VE KNOWN MR. LOPEZ FOR 30 YEARS.
AND WE ALSO HAVE REBECCA FLORES BERES NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
REBECCA FLORES, BERES 1 0 2, THE BM CROSBY.
UM, AFTER MY THREE MINUTES, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS, UH, MAYBE A VARIANCE IN THE MAP THAT WAS MAILED OUT VERSUS WHAT'S ON THE WALL.
UM, I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME FOR 18 YEARS AND I'M ALSO ACTING PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, HOME ASSOCIATION FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I'M HERE TODAY REPRESENTING FIVE AND I SAY FIVE.
HOAS MOUNTAIN VIEW, THE GREAT NORTHWEST COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, THE RESERVE AT COBRA CREEK.
WESTOVER VALLEY, H O A AND HIDDEN MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
EXCUSE ME, I'M GOT ALLERGIES REALLY BAD.
WE ARE ALL ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND HAVE HIGH EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR GROWING NEIGHBORHOOD.
LET ME SAY BY, LET ME START BY SAYING WE ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST, A AMENDED AMENDMENT.
WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE PROPOSED PLAN CHANGE FROM SUBURBAN TIER TO MIXED USE CENTER.
PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. THIS REQUEST IS NEXT DOOR TO A CHURCH APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED YARDS FROM A 91 FAMILY UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX, THE STARLING.
AND IS JUST A LITTLE FURTHER FROM WHAT WILL BE THE IDEAL PUBLIC SCHOOL ON COLLIBRA ROAD.
WE FIND THIS REQUEST NOT TO BE APPROPRIATE FIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BESIDES BEING OUT OF THE SCOPE FOR THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN FOR THIS WEST SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN.
THE
WE CAN ONLY EXPECT A RETURN TO NON-COMPLIANCE AT THESE PROPERTIES IN THE FUTURE.
THE FACT THAT THE LOPEZ HAS OWNED TWO MORE LOTS ON THE EAST SIDE OF EASTERLY ADDS TO THE POSSIBILITY THAT MAYBE WE ARE NOT GETTING THE ENTIRE PLAN FOR HIS PROPERTIES.
THE COMMON COURTESY WHERE THE OWNER MEETS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO EXPLAIN THEIR PLANS OR USE HAS NOT BEEN EXTENDED.
AND I ASK YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN DENYING THIS PROPOSED CHANGE.
I MADE IT WITHIN THREE MINUTES.
THE MAP THAT WE GOT MAILED OUT COMES BELOW THE LITTLE GRITTY FLOWER AREA AND THERE IS AN H O A IN THERE, WHICH IS MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, COALITION.
AND I JUST FIND THAT KIND OF STRANGE THAT IT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WAS MAILED OUT.
UH, AND I WAS JUST KIND OF WONDERING BECAUSE THEN THERE WOULD BE AN H O A THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN REACHED OUT TO.
IS THERE AN EXPLANATION WHY? UH, YES.
SO THE MAP THAT WENT OUT ACTUALLY COVERED MORE AREA THAN WHAT WAS NECESSARY.
SO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE PROPERTIES THAT ACTUALLY NEED TO BE REZONED.
THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH THAT WAS ACCIDENTALLY INCLUDED IN THAT ORIGINAL MAP.
IT'S ALREADY ZONED, UH, COMMERCIAL C THREE AND A, YOU WANNA GO TO THAT ZONING MAP, NICOLE? UM, SO IT DOES NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH A PLAN AMENDMENT OR REZONING PROCESS.
SO THE, SO THE UM, MAP THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS THE ACCURATE MAP OF WHICH YOU ARE CONSIDERING TODAY.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY THIS ONE WAS MAILED OUT.
UH, DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY REBUTTAL? ROGER PEREZ? SO LET ME JUST FIRST SAY TO, UH, UH, TO MS. PEREZ AS WELL AS TO MS. WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO REACHING OUT AND VISITING WITH THEM REGARDING, 'CAUSE WE STILL ARE IN THE PROCESS TO GO TO ZONING, UH, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, THERE IS NO REQUEST ON THE PROPERTIES THAT, THAT ARE BEFORE THIS, UH, BODY REGARDING A CEMENT PLANT.
THEY DO OWN A CEMENT BATCH PROCESSOR THAT'S NOT UP IN DISCUSSIONS
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TODAY REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION.UH, THE CHURCH THAT THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO IS INDEED MY UNDERSTANDING, AND CATHERINE CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS ALSO C THREE NA.
SO IT'S CONDUCIVE TO ALL THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE.
AGAIN, PLEASE REALIZE THAT THE FRONTAGE OF THIS IS ON
UH, SO WE JUST THINK IT, IT IS AN INDEED AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THIS PROPERTY.
UH, NEXT WE'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING AND WE'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS STARTING AT THE LEFT WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER ROGER MARTINEZ.
YES, I, I UNDERSTAND THIS, THIS PROPERTY IS CONSIDERED VACANT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME.
MIGHT BE GOOD FOR THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER.
GENERALLY THE PROPERTY IS INDEED MORE VACANT THAN, THAN NOT AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE.
UH, WE'VE USED IT FOR SOME STORAGE SPACE, THINGS LIKE THAT.
NICOLE, CAN YOU GO TO THE AERIAL MAP? THAT WAY THEY CAN SEE I, MY NAME IS ELIZABETH LOPEZ AND, UH, THE PROPERTY, THERE'S A BUILDING THERE, BUT THAT ONE, THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE BEFORE WE OCCUPIED THE, UH, PREMISES.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S BEEN THERE SINCE THE 1950S, BUT NO, IT'S NOT BEING OCCUPIED.
IT'S, UM, IT'S JUST AN EMPTY BUILDING.
SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE OTHER THAN THAT SMALL BUILDING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE WE, UM, MOVED INTO AND LEASE THE PROPERTIES OVER 30 YEARS AGO.
QUESTION, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY PRESENT, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, UH, ATTACHED TO THIS PROPERTY PROHIBITING ANY TYPE OF USE THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF, COMMISSIONER? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
UH, I, I AM AN ATTORNEY, BUT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS ON THIS.
THE TYPES OF PROPERTIES, THE BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET ARE, UM, KIND OF GENERAL PURPOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE RETAIL.
THERE'S, UM, MOTOR SALES PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE'S A, UH, CONVENIENCE STORE RIGHT ACROSS FROM, UH, COLLIBRA AS WELL.
UH, THERE'S THE CHURCH THAT THEY'RE DISCUSSING OR TALKED ABOUT, JUST A FEW YARDS FROM THERE.
UH, THERE'S, UM, A RENTAL CAR ALSO ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE.
UH, THERE'S A MECHANIC SHOP ON EASTERLING ACROSS AS WELL.
SO IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S ALL BUSINESSES.
YOUR INTENT IS TO DEVELOP OR TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
WE HAVE PLANS EITHER TO, IN FACT, WE'VE ALREADY BEEN APPROACHED, BUT ONE OF THE, UM, UH, THE, THE, THE CAR SALES, UH, OWNER TO LEASE THE PROPERTY.
SO WE'RE CONSIDERING IT'S EITHER LEASING IT OR EVEN SELLING IT.
UH, WE'RE NOT SURE YET, BUT, UH, MOST LIKELY LEASE IT.
AND, AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL, WELL, A FEW, UH, PEOPLE APPROACHED US ABOUT SELLING FOR A RESTAURANT, I BELIEVE.
AND THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, FOR THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE TODAY.
MY QUESTIONS ARE REGARDING WHAT THE PLANNED USE OF THE PROPERTY WAS, AND YOU JUST ANSWERED THAT.
UH, AND FIRST THANKS AGAIN TO THE, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT CAME TO SPEAK.
UH, MY QUESTION, THERE'S A CHURCH RIGHT THERE, HAS A CHURCH WEIGHED IN AT ALL ON THEIR OPINION OF WHAT'S HAPPENING? NOT, NO, BUT I HOPE THEY'RE PRAYING FOR US.
SO, UH, AND THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, UM, THE BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STREET, TWO, FOUR AND ZERO AGAINST MICHAEL CAN, UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY WHO YOU GOT, WHO YOU GOT NOTICES FROM, IF YOU GOT ANY? WHICH TWO? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM THE, UH, CHURCH.
I GOT ONE FROM, UH, MR. MAYO WHO SPOKE.
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I DON'T HAVE THE ADDRESS FOR THE OTHER NOTICE, UM, THAT I RECEIVED, BUT I DID RECEIVE ANOTHER NOTICE FROM A, A DIFFERENT BUSINESS OWNER ON THE STREET.SO THOSE TWO THAT I'M REFERRING TO WERE WITHIN THE 200 FEET AND THEY WERE BOTH IN SUPPORT BY BUSINESS OWNERS.
UH, MY NEXT QUESTION IS PROBABLY FOR YOU, CAN YOU CLARIFY AGAIN WHAT USES, BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PLANNED USE FOR THIS CHANGE.
WHAT USES THE LAND WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR IF WE DO THIS CHANGE? YES.
SO IN THE MIXED USE, SO IF YOU GO FORWARD WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT, THE MIXED USE CENTER ALLOWS, UM, A NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY ZONINGS, UM, OTHER RESIDENTIAL ZONINGS AS WELL AS C NC, C ONE, C TWO, AND C THREE ZONINGS.
SO THE USES ALLOWED, YOU KNOW, IF THE PLAN AMENDMENT GOES THROUGH, ARE THE ZONINGS CENTER, UM, COVERED UNDER MIXED TWO CENTER, WHICH ARE THOSE.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE.
SO, UM, ONE OF THE, UH, MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC MENTIONED THIS PROPERTY OWNER OWNS ADJACENT PROPERTIES, NOT WHAT'S SUBJECT TO THIS.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING AND APPROVING TODAY IS JUST WHAT'S BEEN PRESENTED, BUT CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THERE ARE OTHER ADJACENT PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE PROPERTY OWNER? NOT ADJACENT, BUT ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THEY OWN PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET AND THEY'RE LEASING PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
WE ANTICIPATE MOVING FORWARD ON A PLAN AMENDMENT SOON, NOT TODAY REGARDING THOSE PROPERTIES OR THE ONES ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET, IS THAT THE ONE THAT IS OCCUPIED BY MR. MAYO THAT SUPPORTED THE ITEM TODAY? I THINK MR. MAYO IS ONE OF THE TOP THREE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF, OF THE RED BOX ZERO.
IT WAS THE, THE ONE THAT THEY OWN IS THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY SEEN ON THE SCREEN.
IS THAT R SIX? I THINK MR. MAYO IS ONE OF THESE, RIGHT.
SO HE'S UP HERE, THIRD, THIRD, RIGHT THERE.
AND THEY OWN THE PROPERTY JUST BELOW AND THEN THEY OWN PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH OR, OR, OR SOUTHEAST.
AND WE ANTICIPATE BRINGING SOMETHING FORWARD, BUT NOT AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE JUST ADDRESSING THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION BEFORE THE OKAY.
AND I'M SORRY IF I MISSED STAFF'S RESPONSE EARLIER, BUT, UM, WHAT THEIR, I KNOW THEY HAVEN'T BEEN EXACTLY CLEAR ON WHAT THEIR INTENTIONS ARE, LEASE SELL, MIXED USE, BUT A CAR SALES OR AUTOMOTIVE SALES LOT WOULD, WOULD FALL UNDER THAT MIXED USE CATEGORY.
AUTO AUTOMOBILE SALES WOULD FALL UNDER C THREE.
SO IT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD BE AUTHORIZED IN THE C THREE NA, WHICH IS A ZONING CHANGE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND THAT C THREE N IS ALLOWED UNDER THE MIXED USE CENTER.
UH, I'M SATISFIED THAT THE STAFF HAS DONE ALL THE PROPER WORK FOR THIS.
SO I RECOMMEND, UH, THE STAFF'S, UH, RECOMMENDATION.
THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN, WHEN WAS THAT ADOPTED? AND I DIDN'T SEE IT, BUT JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS NOT PART OF A, UH, ESSAY TOMORROW PLAN, THIS AREA, THIS AREA, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, I MEAN EVERY, EVERY PORTION OF THE CITY IS WITHIN A SA TOMORROW PLAN.
EITHER A COMMUNITY PLAN OR A REGIONAL CENTER, BUT OFF AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE, IN HIGHWAY 1 51 16 0 4 REGIONAL CENTER.
SO THE EIGHTH ACTIVITY CENTER.
SO IT'S IN THE LAST PHASE OR THE THIRD PHASE OF, SO PROBABLY THREE PLUS YEARS FROM NOW.
ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? UH, QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WE HEARD AN ISSUE ABOUT PEOPLE WORKING SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
WHERE WOULD THAT BE ADDRESSED IF THERE'S NOISE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SO THE NOISE ORDINANCE IS ENFORCED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I MEAN, BUSINESSES HAVE HOURS OF OPERATION, BUT SINCE THIS IS NOT A, UH, REZONING FOR A CONDITIONAL USE OR SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION, THERE'S NO CONDITIONS THAT CAN BE TIED TO THAT.
UH, BUT IF THERE ARE NOISE ACTIVITIES, IT IS ENFORCED BY SS A P D.
UM, AND THE NOTIFICATION WAS THE STANDARD 200 FEET.
SO WE, WHEN EVERY PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN 200 FEET GOT THE STANDARD NOTIFICATION? THAT'S
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CORRECT.UM, THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT PROXIMITY TO THE CHURCH AND A POTENTIAL SCHOOL.
WHERE, WHERE DOES THAT GET LOOKED INTO THE PROXIMITY, THE, WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT'S NEXT TO IT? UH, SO THIS CASE, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING C THREE AND A, WHICH MEANS NO ALCOHOL SALES.
UH, SO WHEN, UM, SOMEONE WANTS TO SELL ALCOHOL THERE, THERE'S A PROCESS IN WHICH THEY HAVE TO MEET A, A CERTAIN MINIMUM DISTANCE, UH, REQUIREMENT OF 300 FEET.
IF NOT, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VARIANCE PROCESS TO CITY COUNCIL.
BUT THIS IS NOT THAT TYPE OF REQUEST.
UM, SO NA DOES NOT PERMIT ANY ALCOHOL SALES.
UM, ON THE ZONING MAP, I NOTICED THERE'S A BOTTOM.
IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME R FOUR, BUT ON THE OVERHEAD VIEW, IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE AREA'S PRETTY MUCH ALL COMMERCIAL USE.
IS THERE ANY RESIDENTIAL USAGE AT ALL? AND DOES THAT R FOUR, WOULD THAT NEED TO BE REZONED AT A FUTURE DATE OR IS PART OF THE ESSAY TOMORROW PROCESS? SO EASTERLING IS ACTUALLY A DEAD END STREET, UM, INTO THE DRAINAGE AREA.
UH, A LOT OF THESE PROPERTIES WERE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, UH, WERE ALREADY COMMERCIALLY DEVELOPED OR COMMERCIALLY USED.
AND, UH, THEY WERE SUBJECT TO THE OLD METHODS IN WHICH WHEN WE ANNEXED, UH, PROPERTY, WE ASSIGNED IT A TEMPORARY R ONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, UH, WITH THE INTENTION OF GOING BACK OUT THERE TO REZONE THEM APPROPRIATELY BASED ON THEIR USE.
UH, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN IN THIS CASE.
SO MANY OF THESE PROPERTIES YOU'LL SEE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING ON EASTERLING HAVE THE, UH, CONVERSION OF, UH, R SIX BECAUSE OF THE OLD TEMP R ONE.
UH, AND SO NOW WHAT THIS PROCESS IS, IS SORT OF CLEANING THAT UP AND GIVING IT THE APPROPRIATE ZONING SINCE IT'S BEEN USED COMMERCIALLY ALL THIS TIME.
I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION OF STAFF.
UM, IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT UP BY ONE OF THE, UH, SPEAKERS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS HAD, UH, CODE VIOLATIONS OR OTHER KIND OF VIOLATIONS.
WHAT IS THE CITY'S, UH, STANCE ON APPROVING FUTURE PLANS FOR DEVELOPMENT IF THERE ARE OUTSTANDING OR PAST, UH, VIOLATIONS? IF IT'S CURED, DO THEY MOVE FORWARD? UM, OR ARE THEY LOOKED UPON WITH A HIGHER DEGREE OF, UM, SCRUTINY? HOW DOES ALL THAT WORK OUT? ALL PROPERTIES NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR ZONING.
IF THEY ARE, UH, CITED FOR ZONING VIOLATIONS, THEY NEED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
ONE OF THOSE OPTIONS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE IS TO GO THROUGH THAT REZONING PROCESS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR ZONING IS ALIGNED WITH THEIR USES.
AND THAT ZONING PROCESS IS A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS.
UH, SO AGAIN, THE WHOLE POINT IS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE REZONING IS THAT IS ONE WAY TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE.
THEY'VE HAD VIOLATIONS ON OTHER PROPERTIES, BUT NOT THAT THE PROPERTY THAT IS UP FOR, UM, REDEVELOPMENT OR CHANGE IN CODE, THAT THOSE OTHER PROPERTIES DON'T HAVE ANY IMPACT ON THE ONE THAT'S BEING APPROVED.
LIKE IT'S ON A HOLISTIC VIEW OF THE OWNER ONLY WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU ARE THESE PROPERTIES OR PROPERTIES THAT THEY WERE REFERENCED OR ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, AND SO WHAT, WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS JUST THE LAND USE FOR THIS.
AGAIN, UM, WHEN SOMEBODY GETS A ZONING VIOLATION, THEY NEED TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE AND, AND THE REZONING IS A PART OF THAT PROCESS.
THERE ANY FURTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, THEN WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
UH, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND IF A SECOND WITH COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
CAN STAFF DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
COMMISSIONER ROHR ALLEG GREENY? YES.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
MOTION PASSES AS APPROVAL WITH A VOTE OF EIGHT TO ONE.
[13. 20-1844 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2019-11600098 (Council District 3): A request by Patrick Christensen, representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Eastern Triangle Community Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from "Neighborhood Commercial" to "Community Commercial" on Lot 15 and 16, NCB 1076, located at 2035 South W W White Road, 2037 South W W White Road, and 2041 South W W White Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2019-10700331) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)]
NEXT ON THE AGENDA WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 13.MICHAEL PEPPY PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 13, LOCATED AT 2 0 3 7 SOUTH W W WHITE IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN
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FROM NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.UH, 22 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
NO RESPONSE FROM THE COM COMANCHE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR JUPE MANOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE WERE THREE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET.
STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND'S DESIGNATION NOR THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
UM, BRIEFLY, I, I KNOW THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT SORT OF THE 10,000 FEET, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHY WE'RE REALLY HERE.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED C ONE.
IT ALLOWS A RESTAURANT TO LIKE THE FRIENDLY SPOT, AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
JODY NEWMAN OWNS BOTH THESE PROPERTIES AND THEY WANNA CREATE ANOTHER FRIENDLY SPOT AT THIS LOCATION.
IT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM BIG LOU'S PIZZA AND BIG LOU'S BURGERS.
UM, C ONE DOES NOT ALLOW OUTSIDE SPEAKERS.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE EVER IN THE FRIENDLY SPOT, THEY PLAY SPURS GAMES, THEY PLAY PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES AND THEY'LL PLAY THE SUPER BOWL.
THEY DON'T HAVE LIVE BANDS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND I TRIED TO RESEARCH IF THERE WAS ANY WAY WE COULD DO A C ONE CD OR A C ONE SS JUST TO PULL DOWN THAT OUTSIDE SPEAKER USE.
SO WE HAD TO APPLY FOR THE C TWO ZONING.
SO AS PART OF THAT, SINCE THE PROPERTY IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD COM OR, AND THE PLAN IS SHOWN AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH, UH, DOESN'T ALLOW C ONE, WE HAD TO ASK FOR REZONING TO C TWO AND FOR THIS AMENDMENT TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
UH, AND THIS IS THE, AGAIN, I KNOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN.
I'LL, I'LL GO BACK TO 10,000 FEET, BUT I JUST WANNA SHOW, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO KEEP IT AS FAR AWAY FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE BEHIND THE PROPERTY AND THE SOUTHEAST, WE LOCATED THE, THE ACTUAL FRIENDLY SPOT RESTAURANT AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE NORTHEAST CORNER WITH THE OUTSIDE AREA WHERE PEOPLE HANG OUT AND WHERE THE, UM, HERE'S THE POINTER WHERE THE, UH, TV WOULD BE UP HERE RIGHT ALONG WW WHITE ROAD.
AND, UM, AS FAR AS NOISE GOES, I MEAN W W WHITE ROAD IS THE STATE HIGHWAY, UH, KIND OF NOISY.
WE, WE HOPE THAT, UH, ANY TV NOISE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BLURRED OUT BY JUST THE HIGHWAY NOISE.
AND WE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, WE LOCATED AS FAR AWAY AS WE COULD FROM ANY USES BACK HERE.
UM, WE DID MEET WITH JUPE MANOR.
UM, THEIR PRE THEIR PRESIDENT, DEMETRIUS JOY MCGEE, SHE MADE THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL AT THE ZONING COMMISSION.
UM, THERE'S SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AREN'T REAL GOOD ABOUT PUTTING THINGS IN WRITING.
UH, AND THE COMANCHE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS, SO WE WEREN'T ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM.
BUT WE DID MEET WITH, UM, DAN MARTINEZ OF THE EASTERN TRIANGLE GROUP, WHICH IS THE EASTERN TRIANGLE PLAN.
AND HE IS IN SUPPORT OF THIS AMENDMENT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE THE OWNER, JODY NEWMAN HERE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, GOING KIND OF BACK TO THE, THE 10,000 FEET FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, I KINDA HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WOULD BE DESIGNATED ON A FOUR-LANE STATE HIGHWAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S USUALLY WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES.
IT SHOULD BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
UM, SOMETIMES THESE PLANS, THEY DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT ON THE STREET.
AND I THINK THAT COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL'S APPROPRIATE HERE ON A STATE HIGHWAY.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.
WE HAVE ONE PERSON SIGNED TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 13.
NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
RUBY PITTMAN, RUBY PITTMAN, 44 35 BOXWOOD.
UH, I AM DIRECTLY UNDERNEATH THEIR, THE PROPERTY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE REZONED LAST WEEK AS A C TWO AND NOW THEY'RE HERE TO BECOME A COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE NOISE EVEN MORE.
UM, AND I SUSPECT, BUT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE, HIS PLAN SHOWS THE LITTLE COMMERCIAL, UM, STRIP MALL THAT'S RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THEM THAT THEY WILL BE LEASING.
AND I SUSPECT THAT IF THEY MOVE INTO COMMUN COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THAT THAT WILL GIVE THEM MORE OPTIONS FOR RENTING OUT THOSE PLACES.
UM, I REALLY DON'T NEED MORE THAN THE OUTSIDE SPEAKERS IN MY BACKYARD.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS GETTING ALONG WITH C ONE DESIGNATION.
SO THE C TWO IN MY BLOCK IS NEW.
IT MAY BE A STATE HIGHWAY, BUT THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A BIG MAJOR PART OF SOUTH WW WHITE.
THIS IS NOT A BIG COMMERCIAL AREA.
UM, I AM NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE C TWO, BUT I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT SINCE IT WAS JUST RECENTLY APPROVED LAST WEEK.
UM, AND I WILL DO THAT, BUT I AM ASKING YOU GUYS TO PLEASE NOT
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REZONE IT OR RE REPLANT IT INTO A, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT THAT IT'S EXPLODING OVER THERE AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HOLD IT DOWN AS LONG AS I COULD.
I WON'T LIVE FOREVER, SO THEY'LL GET IT EVENTUALLY.
BUT AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO ASK Y'ALL'S DENIAL.
UM, DOES THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE HAVE A REBUTTAL REAL QUICK? UM, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT YES, THE CORRIDOR, THE PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO US, OUR DESIGNATED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK, THEY'RE BOTH C ONE CD.
THIS IS A, A FUNERAL HOME, YOU KNOW, THAT REQUIRES C THREE ZONING.
AND THIS IS A TRANSMISSION SHOP, WHICH, YOU KNOW, AUTO REPAIR ALSO REQUIRES C THREE ZONING.
SO WHAT THE CITY DID WAS GIVE THEM C ONE CDS.
LIKE I SAID, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO COME IN HERE AND ASK FOR A C ONE CD, AVOID THE PLAN AMENDMENT ALTOGETHER.
BUT WE CAN'T, THERE'S JUST NO WAY SHE CAN HAVE HER OUTSIDE SPURS GAMES UNDER C ONE.
SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE ASKING FOR THE C TWO AND THE THE PLAN AMENDMENT.
UH, THE PUBLIC PORTION IS NOW CLOSED AND WE'LL GO ON TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS STARTING AT THE RIGHT WITH COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA.
CAN WE, CAN WE SEE THE MAP THAT, UM, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED WITH THE SKETCH OF THE LAYOUT OF THE PROPERTY? SO THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE ACTIVITY, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS SKETCH, IS THAT GOING TO OCCUR IN WHERE IT SAYS THE, THE BEER GARDEN AND PLAYGROUND AND, UM, I MEAN, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE FRIENDLY SPOT THAT WHERE IT CURRENTLY IS AND WHERE THE LINEUP OF THE SCREEN, WHEN THE SPURS GAMES ARE PLAYED AND THE SPEAKERS ARE KIND OF ALL AROUND.
DO YOU, IS THERE ANY ASSURANCES YOU CAN GIVE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER THAT'S PRESENT THAT WOULD LET THEM KNOW THAT THE SPEAKERS WOULD BE POINTING MAYBE TOWARDS WW WHITE OR, OR THE PLANS TO ACCOMMODATE THE NOISE SO IT DOESN'T FLOW INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YEAH, UNDERSTOOD.
JUST AS WE EXPLAINED TO THE ZONING COMMISSION, THE TV SCREEN, IT'S AN INFLATABLE SCREEN WOULD BE HERE.
AND OF COURSE ALL THE CHAIRS WILL BE AROUND HERE AND THE, THE SPEAKERS WOULD BE OVER HERE.
OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, AIMING TOWARDS WW WHITE ROAD WITH A BUILDING IS SORT OF A, A SOUND BUFFER AND THERE'S TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
PATRICK DUNAWAY
DID YOU, UH, HAVE COMMENTS FROM ANY OF THE OTHER NEARBY RESIDENTS? I KNOW ON THE, UH, I THINK THAT'S A LANE DRIVE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, THERE'S SOME HOUSES OVER THERE.
UM, DID YOU HEAR FROM THEM? NO.
SO WHAT WE DID IS WE MET WITH JUPE MANOR, WHICH KIND OF HAS JOINT MEETINGS WITH COMANCHE WHEN THEY DO HAVE MEETINGS AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THERE AND THEY WERE IN SUPPORT, LIKE I SAID, THEIR PRESIDENT DEMETRIUS MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
JODY, I SPOKE TO, UM, JAMES GRIFFIN, THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE FUNERAL HOME OWNER.
UM, JODY'S BEEN APPROACHED BY THE TRANSMISSION SHOP TO BUY HIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THE CHUPE MANOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THAT'S THE CONTEXT WE'VE HAD.
UM, MY NEXT NEXT QUESTION IS, UH, I ACTUALLY HAVE A BUNCH OF, NOW I'M TRYING TO FORGET THE ORDER
UM, HOW CAN YOU DESCRIBE HOW YOU'RE GONNA MITIGATE THE NOISE OTHER THAN THE LOCATION OF THE SPEAKERS? WELL, UH, JODY, DO YOU WANNA, WHAT KIND OF SOUND BUFFERS, THAT SORT OF THING.
LONGSTANDING EXISTING RELATIONSHIP WITH AN AUDIO EXPERT THAT HELPS US PLACE EVERYTHING.
WHAT'S SORT OF NICE ABOUT THIS IS THIS IS GOING TO BE NEW CONSTRUCTION VERSUS WHAT I NORMALLY DO IS GO INTO AN OLD BUILDING.
UH, SO WE WILL HAVE STATE OF THE ART SPEAKERS IN THIS, UH, IN THIS BUILDING THAT WILL BE ABLE TO POINT THE NOISE TO IN CERTAIN DIRECTIONS, UH, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY NICE FOR US AS WELL.
IT'LL ALL HAVE ONE CENTRAL CONTROL.
UM, AND IT'LL BE BASED ON HANGING OUT.
SO WE FIND THAT MOST PEOPLE, UM, DON'T LIKE IT TOO LOUD 'CAUSE THEY STILL WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE A GOOD TIME AND ST STICK AROUND WITH US.
UH, WE'RE NOT A PLACE, WE DON'T DO ANY TYPE OF, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL MUSIC OR ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
THIS WOULD JUST BE SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE CERTAIN EVENTS THAT THOSE THAT AUDIO WOULD BE USED.
SO THIS IS A QUESTION AND A COMMENT.
SO MOST OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH FRIENDLY SPOT UHHUH, AND I HESITATE TO CALL THIS A SECOND FRIENDLY SPOT BECAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT.
IT'S IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, GOING TO BE DIFFERENT
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AND, AND AS WE KNOW, THOSE OF YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE CURRENT FRIENDLY SPOT? IT IS, IT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT IF WE WERE TO COMPARE IT TO THIS, UM, THE NEAREST HOUSES BASICALLY SURROUND THAT GREEN SPACE.
THAT'S THE BEER GARDEN FOR THE CURRENT FRIENDLY SPOT ON SOUTH ALAMO STREET, RIGHT? YES.
SO, SO, SO THIS IS A LOT DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF SPACE.
HOW MUCH SPACE IS THERE BETWEEN WHERE THE MUSIC IS AND THE NEXT HOUSE? YEAH, SO THIS FOOTPRINT WHERE YOU'RE SEEING THIS BUILDING AND BEER GARDEN AREA I CALL PATIO THAT IS THE SAME SIZE AS THE CURRENT FRIENDLY SPOT, ALMOST JUST TURNED A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE HAD INITIALLY PURCHASED THE ONE ACRE REALIZED WE NEEDED MORE PARKING, SO WE WAITED A YEAR AND A HALF TO PURCHASE THE SECOND ACRE FROM THE GENTLEMAN NEXT DOOR.
UH, IN DOING THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE THE BUILDING ACTUALLY EVEN FURTHER AWAY FROM THE RESIDENCES.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT LEAST TWO THIRDS OF AN ACRE, UH, PARKING LOT AND SETBACK AND LANDSCAPE FROM, UH, RESIDENCES PLUS THESE ARE LARGE ONE ACRE LOTS, UH, THAT THE RESIDENCES ARE ON.
IT'S NOT LIKE AT FRIENDLY SPOT WHERE THERE'S A HOUSE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT ABOUT USE.
SO HOW, UM, THERE, THIS IS A VERY BUSY AREA AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT BEHIND BEHIND IT, BUT W W WHITE HAS A LOT OF BUSINESSES.
WHAT KIND OF NEIGHBOR, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD NOW AND HOW WOULD THIS BE DIFFERENT? WELL, I THINK IT'S EXCITING NEWS.
ONE OF THE NEIGHBORING, JUST A LITTLE BIT DOWN THE WAY, UH, TWO M BARBECUE GOT A JAMES BEARD NOMINATION TODAY.
I THINK MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT I SPOKE WITH, THEY DID NOT WANT THREE AND FOUR STORY, UM, HOUSING, APARTMENTS OR CONDOS.
THEY, THEY DON'T WANT THAT IN THEIR BACKYARDS AND THEY DON'T WANT CAR LOTS.
UM, SO THOSE WERE THE TWO THINGS I MOSTLY HEARD ABOUT WAS JUST NO SELLING CARS
UH, BUT I FOUND MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT WE SPOKE WITH, UM, INCLUDING MRS. PITTMAN, THEY'RE EXCITED TO HAVE I, I THINK COMMERCIAL THAT'S COMING THAT CARESS ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE LAST QUESTION IS FOR CITY STAFF.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN CLEARLY, UM, HOW IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE CURRENT, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENT? SO IN PART, UM, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS INTENDED FOR COMMERCIAL INTERSECTIONS, UH, INTERSECTIONS IN GENERAL.
IN THIS CASE IT IS AN INTERIOR LOT.
UM, OVERALL, THE, THE ZONING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EASTERN TRIANGLE PLAN THAT WAS FOLLOWED UP BY A LARGE AREA REZONING.
AND SO IN PART, UM, PART OF IT IS THE CONSISTENCY OF THAT AND DOING IT ON THE INTERIOR OF A BLOCK DIRECTLY TO NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL INTERIOR.
BUT YOU MEAN INTERIOR BETWEEN TWO INTERSECTIONS? IT IS ON, I MEAN THE, THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY IS ON THE MAJOR ROAD, CORRECT? IT IS.
IT'S, IT'S JUST, I, WHAT I MEAN IS THE INTERIOR OF A BLOCK RATHER THAN AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO STREETS.
CAN YOU REPEAT THE, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE RETURNED OPPOSED IN FAVOR AS FAR AS SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, UM, TO INCLUDE WHAT THE FUNERAL HOME SAID IF THEY REPLIED? I DIDN'T GET ANYTHING BACK FROM THE FUNERAL HOME, NO.
THE QUESTION, UH, IN YOUR CURRENT LOCATION, I KNOW IT'S NOT EXACTLY APPLES TO APPLES IN, IN TERMS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT, UH, HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS OR VIOLATIONS IN YOUR PRESENT LOCATION? SURE.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY SPOT IS NOT THE ONLY PLACE I OPERATE, BUT I'VE NEVER RECEIVED A NOISE VIOLATION AT ANY LOCATION.
UH, I HAVE RECEIVED, UH, SOME NOISE COMPLAINTS, BUT, UH, WITH UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE NOISE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY IS WITH US UTILIZING A SOUND ENGINEER, UH, THOSE HAVE GONE DOWN DRASTICALLY OVER THE PAST EIGHT OR NINE YEARS.
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR A SORT OF A CURFEW OR A TIMEFRAME THAT YOU'LL TURN OFF THE TVS FOR SURE.
SO THE, THE CITY NOISE ORDINANCE ACTUALLY DICTATES THOSE TIMES, AND SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT ALSO, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ABLE TO STAY OPEN
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UNTIL 2:00 AM I, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT IS WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN.I THINK MIDNIGHT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE OUR CURFEW.
BIG BLUES IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
DON'T THEY ALSO HOST OUTDOOR EVENTS? AND SO DOES THIS PUT THEM OUT OF COMPLIANCE? NOT TO, YOU KNOW,
UH, SO THE, THE LARGE AREA REZONING, THERE WAS TWO PHASES THAT WERE DONE PROBABLY IN THE LAST, I WANNA SAY FIVE YEARS.
UM, THE, ANY REZONE TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN EXISTENCE WOULD JUST MAKE 'EM NON-CONFORMING.
SO IF THEY EVER CLOSED DOWN FOR MORE THAN A YEAR, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE CURRENCY C ONE, UH, REGULATIONS.
SO MORE IMPORTANTLY, UM, HAS BIG BLUES RECEIVED ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS FOR ANY OF THEIR EVENTS OR CITATIONS? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT WITH ME TODAY.
SO I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE, THE NEIGHBOR'S COMPLAINTS.
UM, BUT LOOKING AT THE ENVIRONMENT OF THIS, UM, IT SEEMS TO BE REALLY, UH, FITTING TYPE OF, UM, BUSINESS THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE AREA, ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY.
UH, FRIENDLY SPOT IS KNOWN TO BE A, A NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE WHERE, WHERE RESIDENTS GATHER, UH, KIDS GATHER.
UM, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW, I ALWAYS FORGET HOW TO WORD THIS, BUT, UM, I DISAGREE WITH STAFF'S DENIAL AND WOULD MOTION TO, IS IT REJECT THE DENIAL? HE WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER ROLAND.
COMMISSIONER CARILLO, UH, STAFF.
COMMISSIONER ROYAL EGRIN? YES.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
MOTION PASSES AS APPROVAL WITH A VOTE OF SEVEN TO TWO.
[14. 20-1834 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2020-11600002 (Council District 1): A request by Oscar Flores, applicant, for approval of a Resolution to amend the North Central Community Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from "Low Density Residential" to "Neighborhood Commercial" on Lot 87, Block 5, NCB 9009 and Lot 95, Block 6, NCB 9012, located at 5230 and 5118 San Pedro Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2020-10700011) (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
13.LORIANN TENNIS PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 14, LOCATED AT 51 18 AND 52 30 SAN PEDRO ROAD.
AND IT IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE OF THE NORTH CENTRAL COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
32 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET.
ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO RETURNED IN OPPOSITION.
NORTHMORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM ALMOST PARK TERRACE.
NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THIS PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED LAND USE AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE WELL-ESTABLISHED EXISTING LAND USES AT THESE PROPERTIES AND THE SURROUNDING AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
WILL THE APPLICANT ADDRESS THE COMMISSION? OH, OSCAR FLORES, MY HOME ADDRESS.
2 1 4 BLACKJACK OAK CHAU PARK.
OH, THE REQUEST IS FOR A C ONE FOR THE GRAD HUB OR GRADUATION CENTER.
WE'VE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS AND OPERATING OUT OF THAT, IT'S MAINLY HAS BEEN A WAREHOUSE, UH, WHERE WE GO TO THE SCHOOLS AND THE COLLEGES AND TAKE ORDERS AND DELIVER CAPS AND GOWNS, INVITATIONS, DIPLOMAS, ALL THOSE THINGS, UH, THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE CITY FOR YEARS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING, OR WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS CHANGE IT FROM MORE OF A WHOLESALE TO A RETAIL.
WHERE YOU COULD GO FROM ANY SCHOOL, ANY COLLEGE, ANYWHERE, RATHER THAN HAVE TO BUY AT THE BOOKSTORE AT THE HIGHER RATES OR HAVE TO
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BE DESIGNATED FOR ONE PARTICULAR, UH, COMPANY THAT YOU COULD COME BUY YOUR CAP AND GOWN AT A LOWER RATE WHEREVER IN THE CITY THAT YOU WANNA BUY AND THE WHOLE SURROUNDING AREA.UM, AND THEN THE 52 30 WHERE WE REQUESTED THAT TO BE A C ONE ALSO BECAUSE, UH, WE HAVE FOUR UNITS IN THERE.
AND ONE OF THE UNITS THAT WAS VACANT, UH, A WHOLESALE, UH, CELL PHONE COMPANY WANTED TO GO IN THERE AND DO WHOLESALE, UH, CELL PHONES AND UH, UH, REPAIRS.
I DID TALK TO THE, UH, ALMA PARK TERRACE AND VISITED WITH THEM AND HAD A TWO HOUR MEETING.
I TOLD THEM THAT I HAD ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS.
THEY WANT ME TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY JUST, AND I WAS, I'VE BEEN THERE 30 YEARS, SO I'M BEING NICE AND WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THAT I AM WORKING WITH THEM.
AND I'VE ALWAYS BEEN THE, UH, GUY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING OR HELP PEOPLE.
SO I TOLD THEM THAT I WOULD, UH, TELL 'EM THAT I'D, I'D DELAY IT TWO WEEKS.
WE HAVE A REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE STAFF.
WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT, UH, DATE BASED ON WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING? MARCH 11TH.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE.
SECOND, YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PROPHET.
UH, STAFF CAN DO THE ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
CHAIRMAN CHRISTOPHER GARCIA? YES.
MOTION PASSES WITH A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO.
[19. 20-2187 Consideration and Action on the Minutes from February 12, 2020.]
REAL QUICK BEFORE WE OKAY.DO WE HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MEETING MINUTES? IF NONE, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE MEETING MINUTES? MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PROFIT SECOND AND A SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER PECK ON THE MEETING MINUTES.
ANY OPPOSED? MINUTES ARE DONE.
AND NOW WE HAND OVER, UH, THE GAVEL, IF YOU WILL, TO KATT TO RUN OFFICER ELECTIONS.
NOW COMES OUR ANNUAL ELECTION.
[Election of Officers for Planning Commission.]
ELECTING FOR ALL THREE OFFICERS.I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, PRO TEM, THEN I'LL GO TO VICE CHAIR.
WE'RE GONNA REVERSE THAT ORDER.
CHAIR, VICE CHAIR, THEN PRO TEM.
SO WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL ASK FOR NOMINATIONS FROM THE FLOOR AND THEN, UM, IF THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE NOMINATION FOR EACH SEAT, UH, WE WILL DO A, UH, SORT OF A HANDS VOTE SO THAT WAY WE CAN, UH, SEE WHO HAS THE MOST VOTES AND WHOEVER HAS THE MOST VOTES WILL WIN THAT, THAT SPOT.
UH, SO FIRST LET ME HAVE NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR NOMINATED CHRISTOPHER GARCIA.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS.
CHAIRMAN GARCIA OUTTAKE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR NOMINATE CONNIE GONZALEZ.
ALL IN FAVOR? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS FOR THE RECORD.
ALL VOTED IN FAVOR, UNANIMOUS.
VICE CHAIR GONZALEZ AND FOR PRO TEM, LEMME HAVE A NOMINATION.
NOMINATE GEORGE PECK FOR PRO TE.
ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HANDS FOR THE RECORD.
SO, CONGRATULATIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK.
SO I GUESS NOW THAT'S, THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TERM FOR ALL OF US IN THOSE POSITIONS 'CAUSE THERE'S EFFECTIVELY NO CHANGE IN OFFICERS.
SO NEXT TIME, THIS IS OUR LAST TERM, WE CAN SERVE LAST TERM.
WE CAN SERVE IN OUR CURRENT POSITIONS UNTIL THEN WE HAVE TO SWITCH, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
SO THIS WILL, THIS WILL BE MY LAST, THE LAST YEAR.
YOU'LL HEAR THE BANGING OF THE GAVEL
FOR THE RECORD, I DID NOT ACCEPT ANY PAC MONEY.
I BELIEVE THE LAST THING WE HAVE IS, UM, DIRECTOR'S REPORTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY DIRECTORS REPORTS? OH, DIRECTOR'S REPORTS.
DID ANYBODY DO THEIR FINANCIAL
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DISCLOSURE REPORTS? IF NOT, PLEASE TURN THEM IN.EVERYONE HERE OH, HAS DONE IT? NO.
WE'RE YOU'RE SHOWN AS COMPLETE.
WE'LL, DOUBLE THAT'S NOT LETTING ME, I HAVEN'T DONE ONE FOR, UH, 19 THOUGH.
WE'LL DOUBLE CHECK THAT AND GET, AND, UH, CIRCLE BACK WITH YOU.
BUT EVERYBODY ELSE HERE HAS IS COMPLETE
I'M SURE THEY WERE ON THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE A COUPLE, UH, FUTURE WORK SESSIONS THAT, UH, WILL, UH, MAYBE LUNCH WORK SESSIONS, AND I WANNA BE SURE I PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR FOR MARCH.
UM, AND ONE OF 'EM IS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS AND TRY TO GET YOUR INPUT AND HOW TO, HOW YOU UTILIZE, UH, NOTIFICATION, UH, OR AT LEAST LETTERS OF SUPPORT OR LETTERS IN OPPOSITION FROM REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO THEY'LL DO A PRESENTATION AND GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.
UM, SO I JUST WANNA TO BE SURE THAT I PUT THAT ON YOUR RADAR BECAUSE IT WILL BE A LUNCH WORK SESSION THAT WE, AND WE WILL FEED YOU.
DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR THAT YET? IT, I BELIEVE RIGHT NOW IT'S TENTATIVE FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN MARCH.
BUT, UH, AS WE GET CLOSER TO THAT, WE WILL SEND YOU THE CONFIRMED START TIME.
UM, REAL QUICK, HAS T C I STARTED WORKING ON THEIR LIST FOR THE BUDGET FOR THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AS, I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S ONGOING, BUT THAT'S USUALLY THE PART WE'RE SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON WHEN THE BUDGET COMES UP.
AND I BELIEVE COUNCIL JUST ADOPTED THEIR BUDGET CALENDAR.
UH, SO THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED THAT PROCESS TO, UM, PROPOSE A BUDGET.
AND ONCE THAT, UH, PROPOSED BUDGET COMES FORWARD, THAT'S WHEN THEY'LL COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO PRESENT THAT PROPOSED BUDGET ALONG WITH THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PROGRAMMING.
UH, SO THEY'VE JUST WENT TO COUNCIL, GOT THE BUDGET CALENDAR APPROVED, SO THEY'RE STARTING NOW.
'CAUSE IF WE, IF WE COULD START SEEING, UH, THOSE ITEMS, UH, AHEAD OF TIME, THAT WOULD BE REALLY, REALLY NICE AS IT'S USUALLY BEST LIKE A NICE AS AS NICE FAT P D F.
SO WE'LL WORK WITH 'EM AS BEST AS WE CAN.
USUALLY WHAT WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PRESENT A COUNCIL FIRST AND THEN THEY GO TO THE COMMISSIONS.
DID, DID WE FILL THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION SPOT ON THE ATTACK? DID CHER ACCEPT THAT? CONGRATULATIONS FOR NOT BEING HERE.
SO I, I DID TELL HIM I I WILL DO IT, BUT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY I WON'T BE ABLE TO IF MY JOB SITUATION CHANGES BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
SO AT THIS POINT IT'S A YES WITH A POSSIBILITY, BUT I'LL, I'LL HAVE PLENTY OF NOTICE BEFORE THOSE MEETINGS KICK INTO HIGH GEAR TO LET YOU KNOW.
SO LET'S SUPPOSE, I MEAN, WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE, RIGHT? SO IF WE GET TO THAT POINT, LET'S SAY WE GET TO MAY AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR SITUATION CHANGES AND IT'S LIKE, WELL I CAN'T, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON WE COULD, WE AS A COMMISSION CAN STILL SELECT ANOTHER COMMISSIONER, RIGHT? FOR THE PRIMARY IF WE WANT TO.
AS LONG AS WE, UH, NOTICE IT APPROPRIATELY.
WELL LISTEN TO CRICKETS AGAIN WHEN WE ASK FOR NOMINATIONS.
JUST, JUST FOR THE RECORD, HOW MANY MEETINGS ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR THAT RIGHT NOW? IT'S ON THE CALENDAR FOR STARTING.
UH, I BELIEVE IT'S ON THE CALENDAR STARTING IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA START THEN.
SO LET'S SAY MID TO LATE MAY THROUGH OCTOBER.
I DIDN'T SEE TWICE A WEEK
THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN RESERVED ON THE CALENDARS.
THERE WAS OCCASIONALLY TWO A WEEK, BUT WE'RE AT, WE'RE EXPECTING MORE, UH, AMENDMENTS THIS TIME THAN LAST TIME.
LIKE DOUBLE IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WE'VE GOTTEN SO FAR, BUT, UM, SO WE, WE, WE SAT DOWN AND WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND WE SCHEDULED TWO MEETINGS A WEEK.
I SAW THOSE AS TENTATIVE, BUT IT'S, IT'S, EACH MEETING IS FOUR OR FIVE HOURS LONG.
NOT TO MENTION THE WEEKEND LIGHT READING OF 800 PAGES WORTH OF CODE.
SO DO THE MEETINGS, DO THE MEETINGS HAVE TO BE IN THE EVENING? I MEAN, I MEAN, UH, DURING WORKING HOURS OR COULD THERE BE EVENING OR EVEN IF IF NECESSARY A WEEKEND MEETING? I'M JUST TRYING TO, BECAUSE IT'S A LOT OF MEETINGS AND SO I KNOW, YOU KNOW, I THINK MOST OF US WORK SOME TYPE OF 40 HOUR WEEK KIND OF THING.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE IF WHAT FLEXIBILITY IS AVAILABLE.
TYPICALLY IT'S BEEN DURING THE
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DAY AND THEN OF COURSE WE, UH, FOR ANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WE TRY TO DO THOSE IN THE EVENINGS SO PEOPLE CAN PROVIDE MORE INPUT.UH, BUT WE, WE CAN TAKE THAT FEEDBACK.
I WOULD STRONGLY TEAM, I WOULD STRONGLY DISCOURAGE WEEKEND MEETINGS.
'CAUSE THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY TIME YOU HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND DIGEST WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT DURING THE TAC MEETING ITSELF.
'CAUSE JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE WORK AND I DON'T HAVE TIME DURING MY DAY TO READ A BUNCH OF STUFF LIKE THAT, SO.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? STAFF OR COMMISSIONERS? KATT, DID YOU SAY THERE WAS GONNA BE MULTIPLE, UM, WORK SESSIONS? YOU JUST MENTIONED ONE, BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAID THERE WERE D MORE THAN ONE.
I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT I GOT THE MARCH ONE ON YOUR RADAR.
UM, THAT WILL BE A COMBINED ONE, UH, WITH A, ANOTHER TOPIC.
UH, BUT UH, I JUST WANTED TO BE SURE I PUT IT ON YOUR, UH, RADAR IN ADVANCE.
AND THEN AS WE HAVE MORE WORK SESSIONS, WE'LL WE'LL LET YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT.