* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:40] FIRST, FIRST. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES [Roll Call] AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS ROB S SIPES AND I WILL BE ACTING AS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR TODAY FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT SEVEN ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. I'D LIKE TO DO A ROLL CALL, VOTE BY, OR ROLL CALL BY ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER ON MY FAR LEFT. KEN HUY, DISTRICT SIX IN KATH, DISTRICT FOUR, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE DISTRICT ONE, LILLIAN JONES, DISTRICT TWO, MARK WHITE, DISTRICT 10 FRANCINE ROMERO, DISTRICT EIGHT. GAIL MCDANIEL, MAYOR PATRICIA GIBBONS, DISTRICT NINE STAFF IS A QUORUM PRESENT. A QUORUM IS PRESENT. THANK YOU. WOULD EVERYONE PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PRIOR TO COMMENCING OUR HEARING. I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE STAFF. CAN GUADALUPE CONS, CONSTANCIO AND FRANK SERAFIN, COME SEE ME AT THE DESK PLEASE. I ALSO NEED REBECCA FLORES PEREZ, BILL DONAHUE, CHARLES THOMAS, THERESA THOMAS, AND FRED MAJOR. SO BEFORE I BEGIN, PLEASE MAKE SURE TO TURN YOUR PHONES ON VIBRATE OR TURN THEM OFF. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS AN 11 MEMBER BODY APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ZONING CASES UPON RECEIVING A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE SIX MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF THE COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION TO FORWARD YOUR CASE TO CITY COUNCIL. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS PROCEDURE, PLEASE CONTACT YOUR CASE MANAGER. STAFF WILL BEGIN EACH CASE WITH A SHORT PRESENTATION OF THE REQUEST. PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A MAP THAT SHOWS THE AREA TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR REZONING AND PROPERTY WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT. PROPERTY CHECK MARKS INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN FAVOR OF THE REQUEST AND AN EX INDICATES THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS IN OPPOSITION. FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION IN ANY QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSION, THE APPLICANT WILL PRESENT THE REQUEST FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THE PROPOSED REZONING. YOU WILL BE CALLED AN ORDER THAT YOU SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. THOSE IN SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO MINUTES PER SPEAKER AND YOU ARE NOT OBLIGATED TO UTILIZE THE MAXIMUM TIME LIMITATION. YOU'LL HEAR THIS WHEN THERE ARE 30 SECONDS LEFT. YES, YOU'LL HEAR ANOTHER BEEP AND WE WILL INFORM YOU THAT YOUR TWO MINUTES ARE UP. FOR THOSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE THEIR TIME TO A SPEAKER, THAT SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED A MAXIMUM OF TWO PEOPLE GIVING THEIR TIME FOR A TOTAL OF SIX MINUTES. THOSE GIVING UP THEIR TIME MUST BE PRESENT AND SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL LIMITED TO ONE SPEAKER WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. DID WE HAVE A RUNDOWN OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE POSTPONED? YES, SIR. TODAY WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON OUR POSTPONED AGENDA. THAT MEANS THEY WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. THE FIRST [2. 20-2348 (Continued from 02/18/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700339 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District to "RM-4 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Residential Mixed Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District on Lot 3A, 4A, 5A, 6A, and Lot 8A, NCB 10746, located at 126 Holmgreen Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, LOCATED AT 1 26 HOME GREEN ROAD. AND THE SECOND ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 13, ALSO POSTPONED. IT IS LOCATED AT 1 26 LEMUR DRIVE. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF YOU HERE TO SPEAK FOR THOSE ITEMS AND SO THE CHAIR WILL LET YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT YOU NEED TO DO, RECOGNIZING THE TIME THAT THEY TOOK OUTTA THEIR DAY WILL ALLOW THEM A CHANCE TO SPEAK. BUT WITH THE REMINDER THAT POSTPONEMENT MEANS THAT WE WILL BE NOT BE ACTING ON THESE ITEMS TODAY AND THAT [00:05:01] A NOTICE WILL BE SENT WILL BE RESENT, UM, IF THE CASE IS TO BE REHEARD. AND THAT'LL BE A TIME OF HOW LONG, SIR? NO, NO, NO. TWO MINUTES. TWO MINUTES. OKAY. SO AT THIS TIME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THOSE SPEAKERS. ALRIGHT, THIS IS FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO. THOSE OF YOU THAT CAME TO SPEAK ON 1 26 HOL GREEN. I'VE GOT ROBERT FELDER'S. SORRY IF I IF I MASSACRED THAT NAME. COME ON UP, SIR. WE'VE GOT IT. WE'LL, WE'LL LET 'EM KNOW. YOU CAN COME ON UP. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, SIR. YEAH, PLEASE, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. MY NAME IS ROBERT BORCHERS. MY ADDRESS IS 2 2 5 BOULDER AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 0. AND I'VE JUST, UH, UM, SORT OF OPPOSED TO THIS BECAUSE, UM, I CONTACTED THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY ABOUT THE WETLANDS THAT ARE INVOLVED AND THE, UM, DEVELOPER SAYING THAT HE'S GONNA FOLLOW ALL THE, THE, UM, UH, RESTRICTIONS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT OUR LAWS OR WHATEVER THAT THEY HAVE, THAT HE HAS TO FOLLOW TO MAKE SURE THAT THE WETLANDS ARE TAKEN CARE OF. THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, THEY DO, THEY ARE TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE IT BACKS UP, DOESN'T BACK ALL THE WAY UP TO MY HOUSE. I HAVE LIKE A MAYBE 200 FEET. I CAN, I CAN SEE IT FROM MY WINDOW AND WE HAVE CRITTERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT ARE OUT THERE, AND IF IT GETS POLLUTED, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT HAPPENS THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST UP A CREEK, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, UM, UH, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO GET POLLUTED AND THEN THE ANIMALS LEAVE AND, AND ALL THAT. SO THAT'S WHAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN. SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TALK. RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND JUST A REMINDER, SO SINCE THIS IS POSTPONED, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TO SPEAK BECAUSE IF IT COMES BACK YOU'LL GET A ANOTHER NOTICE, BUT WE WILL NOT BE TAKING A VOTE ON, ON IT. BUT THE NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. SARAH JEAN CAMPS. DELIA ENOS. SHE CONTRARES. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK THEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND SO FOR THE, THE SAME [13. 20-2298 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700017 CD (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-4 CD AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for four (4) dwelling units on Lot 23, Block 3, NCB 10184, located at 126 Lemur Drive. Staff recommends Denial. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] GOES FOR THE, UH, LEMUR CASE THAT THAT IS ALSO BEING POSTPONED, BUT WE WILL RECOGNIZE THAT YOU TOOK TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY AND WE WILL GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF YOU WISH. LETICIA GRAVES, MARCOS ENTENTES. ERNEST SALINAS. MM-HMM. , UH, ERNEST SALINAS. I LIVE AT 1 7 5 HURST DRIVE. I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE DELL VIEW AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND I JUST WANT TO, UH, JUST BRIEFLY JUST, UH, UH, TALK ABOUT OUR POSITION, UH, ON THIS 1 26 LEMUR CASE. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, YOUR TIME TO HEAR MY, UH, RESIDENTS OF DELL VIEW. I AM SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF OUR NEIGHBORS AS THE MAJORITY OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE WORKING CLASS AND OR OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESSES AND CANNOT BE AWAY FROM THEIR WORKPLACE AS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE HAD TO TRACK DOWN ALL ASPECTS OF THIS ZONING CASE, BEGINNING WITH LAST TUESDAY AS WE WERE NOT PROPERLY AND TIMELY INFORMED AS THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION BY THE CITY AT THE REQUEST OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE 200 SQUARE FOOT RADIUS. WE COLLECTED AND SUBMITTED 74 RESPONSES, UH, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ZONING REQUEST YESTERDAY. WE APPRECIATE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THIS ZONING CHANGE. AND ON BEHALF OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE DELVY AREA NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE ALLOW US TO SHARE OUR REASONING. THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR FOUR SLOT UNITS TO BE PLACED ON AN R FOUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT LOT OF 73 16 FEET IS NOT AN [00:10:01] APPROPRIATE FIT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOR THAT LOT SIZE. THE PROPOSED UNITS HAVE TWO FEET, TWO INCHES BETWEEN UNITS AND WILL BE THE ONLY UNITS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE NOT MORE THAN TWO STORIES HIGH. THIS INCREASE HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR FIRE SPREADING BETWEEN UNITS AND NEARBY PROPERTIES. THE R FOUR C D E CARRIES NO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS AND DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF OUR POST-WAR MID-CENTURY HOMES. UH, DENSITY IN BELLEVUE SHOULD BE ALONG THE WEST AVENUE AND BANCE JACKSON CORRIDOR CORRIDORS FOLLOWING OUR ADOPTION OF THE GREATER BELLEVUE COMMUNITY PLAN. UH, IT SHOULD NOT BE IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK AND NOT IN THIS CUL-DE-SAC. THE ADDITION OF OUR FOUR UNITS OR EVEN THREE UNITS WOULD INCREASE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC TO ANOTHER FOUR TO EIGHT VEHICLES ON AN ALREADY CONGESTED CUL-DE-SAC. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE ALLEYWAY IS NOT AVAILABLE TO THE EIGHT ACTS AND LEMUR PROPERTY OWNERS AS, AS IT IS CONTROLLED BY LA GATA RESTAURANT. THOSE AT THE WORST DISADVANTAGE ARE PROPERTY OWNERS AT 1 22 AND ONE 30 LEMUR. UH, WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD LOSE DAYLIGHT, SUNSHINE PRIVACY WITH THEIR PARTY DECKS ON THE UPPER LEVELS AND HAVE TO HEAR VEHICULAR TRAFFICS FROM STREETS TO ALLEY PROPERTY LINES. MR. CORTEZ, THE DEVELOPER CONTACTED ONE OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 21ST. DURING THE COURSE OF THE DISCUSSION, MR. CORTEZ SAID, SAID HE REALLY WANTS THREE UNITS, NOT FOUR, AND SUGGESTED THE SPACE HAS ROOM FOR REALLY TWO. OUR BOARD MEMBER ADVISED HIM THAT IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WITH AN A D U WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE PER 19 52, 19 53 W COVENANTS AND U D C CODE. IT WAS, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT HE PRESENT THE PLAN TO THE, TO THE, THAT EFFECT FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT BECAUSE IT FITS INTO THE BELLEVUE COMMUNITY PLAN. IT PROVIDES AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MAINTAINS THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF BELLEVUE. BELLEVUE HOUSES ALL ZONE FOUR BELLEVUE HOUSES ARE ALL ZONE FOUR. RECENTLY THROUGH THE C C R WITH COUNCILMAN VINNO, WE CORRECTED A COMPUTER GLITCH WHERE MORE THAN 100 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BETWEEN BARREL AND FREELING WERE INADVERTENTLY ZONED. MF 33 BACK TO R FOUR. AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THESE NEIGHBORS WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE CONNECTION. 30 SECONDS, 11 HOMES AND W R R FOUR. WE ARE GLADLY SUPPORTIVE OF A SINGLE FAMILY R FOUR HOMESTEAD WITH AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND WE WOULD LIKE, JUST LIKE TO STAY, STAY CLEAR, STATED CLEARLY THAT WE ACCEPT NOTHING MORE THAN OUR FOUR SINGLE FAMILY AT THIS LOCATION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. MARGARET GARCIA, FOLLOWED BY BILL WARD AND MS. YVETTE HERNANDEZ, IF YOU COULD COME TO THE DESK PLEASE. YVETTE HERNANDEZ. MARGARET GARCIA FOLLOWED BY BILL WARD. WARD, THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED IN TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU STAFF. I BELIEVE WE'RE READY FOR THE COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER ONE. UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, DISAPPOINTED INFORMATION REAL QUICK. COULD STAFF TELL ME WHAT, HOW MANY SIGNED IN FOR THESE PA? THESE TWO CASES? NUMBER TWO AND NUMBER 13, ALTOGETHER OR SEPARATELY? SEPARATE. SIX FOR NUMBER 13, EXCUSE ME. SEVEN FOR NUMBER 13 AND FOUR FOR ITEM NUMBER TWO. THANK YOU. OKAY, YOU READY FOR ME? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. [Items 1, 4, 5 - 9, 12, 14, 16, & 17] COMBINED HEARING ITEMS, UH, THIS IS AGENDA NUMBER ONE AND THESE ARE GONNA BE ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA BE CONSIDERED FOR ONE FELL SWOOP TODAY. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME WITH AN AMENDED SITE PLAN LOCATED AT 3 0 2 EAST FRENCH PLACE. THERE WERE 42 NOTICES MAILED ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. [00:15:03] ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THERE REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A MEDICAL MEDICAL CLINIC ON LOT NINE ON LOT P SIX D R SIX C D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT ON LOT NINE AND R SIX C D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE ON LOT P 10 AND LOT P 10 A. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 3 4 0 5 GEORGE ROAD. 3 1 3 4 1 1 GEORGE ROAD AND 1 3 7 0 2 GEORGE ROAD. THERE WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN OFFICE WAREHOUSE. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 7,500 BLOCK OF INGRAM ROAD AND THE 7,600 BLOCK OF COLLIBRA ROAD THAT WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PIPER'S MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER SIX TO REZONE FROM PUD C THREE AND C THREE R TO R FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 1700 1800 AND 1900 BLOCK OF COLUMBIA SQUARE, THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THE RAINBOW HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN TO REZONE FROM C THREE R AND C TWO TO R FIVE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 9,400 AND THE 9,500 BLOCK OF MARBACH ROAD. THERE WERE 9 93 NOTICES MAILED. THREE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND ADAM HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO I D Z ONE WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT SIX 19 SOUTH PANAM EXPRESSWAY. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RE NO RESPONSE FROM THE PALM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER NINE, TO REZONE FROM BP, A H O D TO C TWO A H O D LOCATED AT 1 2 5 0 8 JONES BERGER ROAD. THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 12, TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D AND I ONE A H O D TO C THREE C D A WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR FACILITY WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE LOCATED AT 1 1 8 5 2 NDOS ROAD. THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 14 TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS, ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT TWO 50 BOGLE STREET. THERE WERE 18 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 16, THREE ZONE FROM I TWO TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. AT SIX 10 MARDA STREET THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED. NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND COLIN GARDENS IS NOT IN OPPOSITION. ITEM NUMBER 17, THERE ARE, IS SHE REZONE FROM C TWO TO RMM FOUR. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 13 TO 1400 BLOCK OF RAL DRIVE. THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED. NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MR. CHAIR, THERE ARE TWO INDIVIDUALS SIGNED UP. WELL, THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER SIX IN FAVOR. WE CAN LISTEN TO THEM IF THEY, IF THEY CHOOSE. YES. I BELIEVE HE'S WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MR. GO. MY NAME IS FRED MCGEE. LIVES 88 26 FLINT VALLEY. LIVED THERE FOR OVER 45 YEARS. UH, WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S GONNA REPLACE A OPEN FIELD. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE AND BECOME A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT. THE ONLY THING IS THAT THE, WE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, AND THEY'VE AGREED TO PAY US THE FIRST YEAR DUES FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO GO FOR ME, [00:20:01] A VOLUNTEER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THEY'RE GONNA BE, UH, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO THEY HAVE AGREED TO PAY US, UH, $15, WHICH IS OUR ANNUAL DUES FOR ONE YEAR. IN ORDER TO BUILD THESE PROJECTS. THERE IS ONE CONCERN. THERE IS A HOLDING POND, A DRAINAGE POND ON THIS PROPERTY. WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT STAYS THERE. UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE MORE WATER BURNING DOWNHILL THAN WE ALREADY HAVE, JUST SWINGING STREETS. UH, OTHER THAN THAT, WE'VE IN SUPPORT. WE HAVE TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER SEVERAL TIMES AND WE DO HAVE A LETTER HERE FROM ONE OF THEIR PARTNERS OR ONE OF THEIR EXECUTIVES STATING THAT THEY WOULD PAY THIS FEE AND THE UH, CASE WORKER HAS A COPY OF IT. RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, MR. LIRA, DID YOU WANNA SPEAK? THIS IS YOUR ITEM, BUT IT'S ON CONSENT. NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I'LL MOVE IN FAVOR OF RECOMMENDATION FOR ITEMS 1 4 5 6 7 8 9, 12 14, 16, AND 17. SECOND. IS THAT WITH THE AMENDMENT FOR THE SITE PLAN ON ITEM NUMBER ONE? YES IT IS. THANK YOU. OKAY. I HEAR A MOTION AND A SECOND. A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER HUEY? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. AYE. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. AND COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ZERO. OKAY, THANK YOU. NOW WE'LL HEAR THE CASES FOR COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO WITH THE NOTE THAT IF YOUR CASE WAS HEARD ON THE FIRST COMBINED HEARING FOR CONSENT, YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE. YOUR CASE HAS BEEN APPROVED. OKAY, MICHAEL, THIS ONE WILL NEED TO GO TO INDIVIDUAL 'CAUSE IT HAS A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. SO THAT LEADS US TO ITEM [11. 20-2243 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700011 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "O-2 H AHOD" High-Rise Office Olmos Park Terrace Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-1 H AHOD" Light Commercial Olmos Park Terrace Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 95, Block 6, NCB 9012 and Lot 87, Block 5, NCB 9009, located at 5118 San Pedro Avenue and 5230 San Pedro Avenue. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] NUMBER 11. AND THIS IS ON THE COMBINED HEARING TWO AGENDA BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE. SO ITEM NUMBER 11 IS TO REZONE FROM OH TWO H A H O D TO C ONE H A H O D AT 51 18 SAN PEDRO AVENUE AND 52 30 SAN PEDRO AVENUE. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ONE IN OPPOSITION. UH, NORTH MOORE IS IN OPPOSITION AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM ALMOST PARK TERRACE. AND THE A, UH, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS TO MARCH 17TH. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SPEAK? YOU DON'T HAVE TO. OKAY. IF NOT, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. HE, HE IS NOT PRESENT TODAY BECAUSE HE'S DISCUSSED THIS CONTINUANCE WITH SUMMER GREATHOUSE AND THEY'VE AGREED TO CONTINUE FOR TWO WEEKS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. OKAY. UM, YEAH, AND I'VE WORKED WITH, UM, BOTH THE APPLICANT AND, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY AGREED, UM, FOR A, A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE SO THAT THEY COULD SOME DISCUSS SOME FURTHER DETAILS TO THE CASE. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER 11 UNTIL THE MARCH 17TH MEETING. SECOND. ALRIGHT. HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. AND COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE ZERO FOR CONTINUANCE TO MARCH 17TH. THANK YOU. INDIVIDUAL CHAIRMAN. POINT OF ORDER. SORRY, I JUST HAD A QUESTION ON THAT. COULD I ASK THAT QUESTION? SORRY, . SORRY I'M USED TO YOU SITTING ON THAT SIDE. OH NO, I'M OVER. SORRY. I ENTERTAIN A, A QUICK QUESTION TO STAFF ON THAT LAST CASE. OKAY. UH, JUST TO STAFF. DID DID YOU SAY ALMOST TERRACE DID NOT RESPOND IN SO THEY DIDN'T RESPOND IN WRITING TO THE [00:25:01] NOTICE? IS THAT WHAT IT WAS? THAT'S CORRECT. Q. ALRIGHT. NOW ON TO INDIVIDUAL . GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. MICHAEL PEPPY PLANNER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER THREE, [3. 20-2300 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700040 (Council District 6): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6" Residential Single-Family District to "C-3 NA" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District on Lots 8-12, NCB 17639, located at 5745 Easterling Drive and 5679 Easterling Drive. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2019-11600014) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] LOCATED AT 5 7 4 5. EASTERLING IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM R SIX TO C THREE. NA 18 NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. FIVE WERE RETURN IN FAVOR. NONE IN OPPOSITION. THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITHIN 200 FEET. THERE WERE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET IN OPPOSITION. STAFF HAS NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS INTERLACED INTO THE SONY EXCHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. MAY WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT? PLEASE CHAIR MR. CHAIR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. MY NAME IS ROGER PEREZ, 4 27 SOUTH ST. MARY'S STREET. I'M HERE WITH MS. LOPEZ. UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE IS AN INTEREST, UH, WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS TO SIT DOWN WITH US SO WE CAN FURTHER VISIT ON THE CONCEPT. UH, WE, UH, WANTED TO REITERATE THAT THERE ARE FOLKS, THERE ARE FIVE FOLKS IN FAVOR OF IT. UH, STAFF IS PRESENTING IT. IT FITS A PERFECT LAND USE MODEL, BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO VISITING WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE IN THE VICINITY, UH, TO TOUCH BASE WITH 'EM. WE THINK A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE WOULD BE A, A GREAT IDEA. I THINK WE COMMUNICATED WITH, WITH, UH, CITY COUNCIL ON THIS CONCEPT ALSO. COULD I GET SOME INTERACTION ON THAT ISSUE? MAYBE? UH, ABOUT THE IDEA OF, OF RESETTING IT? WELL, LET'S HEAR, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE, THE NEIGHBORS FIRST AND THEN GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. REBECCA FLORES PEREZ, FOLLOWED BY BILL MC MCDONOUGH. EXCUSE ME. UH, REBECCA FLORES. 1 0 2 3 OH MOUNT CROSBY. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MAP BEFORE I START. YOU LOWER THE MIC FIRST. WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. I'M SORRY. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MAP BEFORE WE START. THAT ACTUALLY DOES ENTER INTO OUR H O A, UH, TOWARDS THE LEFT LOWER PORTION. UH, I BELIEVE THERE WE'RE PICKING UP SOME PROPERTIES THAT, THAT DO BELONG. WE MIGHT WANNA CHECK THAT LATER. ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. UM, I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING REQUEST. I REPRESENT FIVE HOAS MOUNTAIN VIEW ACRES, THE GREAT NORTHWEST COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT ASSOCIATION, THE RESERVE AT COLLIBRA CREEK, WESTOVER VALLEY, H O A AND HIDDEN MEADOWS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. LET ME START BY SAYING WE DO NOT WANT A CEMENT BATCH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU'RE SAYING WHAT DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH THIS ZONING REQUEST? I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE THINKING. WELL, RIVER CITY READY MIX LOST THEIR GRANDFATHER RIGHTS TO OPERATE THEIR CEMENT BUSINESS BECAUSE OF NUMEROUS CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, VIOLATIONS. THE CODE COMPLY CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICER IS HERE TODAY AND CAN PROVIDE YOU DETAILS. THEY HAVE BEEN GRANTED SEVERAL EXTENSIONS BE DESPITE THESE VIOLATIONS. THEY CONTINUE TO OPERATE ON THE EAST AND SOUTH SIDE OF EASTERLING AND HAVE A COURT DISTRICT COURT CASE AGAINST THE CITY. SO I ASK YOU WHY ARE WE CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST? MORE IMPORTANTLY, I ASK YOU WHY THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR ENVIRONMENT AFTER THIS REQUEST. ACCORDING TO THEIR ATTORNEY, THEY PLAN TO ASK FOR A C THREE N A S FOR THE EAST SIDE OF EASTERLY, WHICH IS NOT IN RED ON THE MAP BECAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN REQUESTED YET THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE BATCHING PLANT WHERE THEY BUILT, UH, WITHOUT A PERMIT, 30 SECONDS. THEY INTEND TO OPERATE ON TWO SMALL LOTS, WHICH IS A HUGE CUTBACK IN SIZE FROM THEIR PREVIOUS LOCATION ON EASTERLY. WILL THEY CONTINUE TO DO AS THEY PLEASE TO USE THIS PROPERTY AS ANY OVERFLOW FROM THE EASTERLY LOCATION WHERE THEY BUILT THE ILLEGAL BATCH? THE LOPEZS ALSO OWN ANOTHER PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE OF EASTERLY. WHAT IS THEIR PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY? CAN YOU LOOK FOR THEM TO REQUEST A C THREE N A SS FOR THAT PROPERTY ALSO? I'M NOT DONE, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU BILL. FOLLOWED BY CHARLES THOMAS. I'M BILL MCDONOUGH. I LIVE AT 85 42 TIMBER PLACE. I'M ON THE NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLANNING TEAM FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. I ALSO REPRESENT THE GREAT NORTHWEST. NEARLY 5,000 HOMEOWNERS CLOSE TO THIS PROPERTY. AS WE'RE CONTINUING, I'M JUST GOING TO EMPHASIZE [00:30:01] A CO A COUPLE OF THINGS. THIS IS ABOUT, AS BECKY SAID, A BATCH PLANT INTO PROP REZONING THIS IN PREPARATION TO SUPPORT A SPECIAL SS DESIGNATED PROPERTY. SO THEY NEED TO BE COMBINED TO GET THE WHOLE PICTURE, THE WHOLE IMPACT. THEY WERE GRANDFATHERED 'CAUSE OF COUNTY. THEY'RE NOW IN THE CITY. THERE'S MORE THAN 90 CITATIONS, CODE COMPLIANCE, ENVIRONMENTAL ON THIS PROPERTY. AND THE THOSE THINGS CONTINUE TO THIS PAST WEEKEND. THERE IS NOW AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ADJACENT TO THE EAST SIDE WHERE THAT LONG DRIVE-IN IS THERE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND NEXT TO THAT IS NOW GOING TO BE OPENING THIS SUMMER. AN IDEAL SCHOOL TO THE WEST IS A CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET BEHIND THE PROPERTY BEYOND THE 200 IT'S HIDDEN MEADOWS TO THE SOUTHEAST IS CREEKSIDE. THOSE RESIDENTS ARE BEING IMPACTED BY THIS NON-COMPLIANCE 30 SECONDS. I'D ASK THAT WITH THE NUMEROUS CONSIDERATIONS ON THESE TWO PROPERTIES, THIS ACTION AND THE ONE THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR TO THE WEST BE COMBINED SO THAT YOU GET THE FULL PICTURE AND THE FULL IMPACT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHARLES THOMAS, FOLLOWED BY THERESA THOMAS. I'M CHARLES THOMAS AND I LIVE AT 1 0 2 2 7 MOUNT CROSBY. AND WHEN THIS CASE WENT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I GOT THE NOTICE 'CAUSE THAT'S MY LOT THERE, JUST OUTSIDE THE RED CIRCLE. BUT WHEN WE GOT THE MAP FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, I WAS IN THE THE CIRCLE. SO I GOT THAT NOTICE, BUT I DIDN'T GET THIS ONE. BUT ANYWAY, I'M HERE AND I'M OPPOSED TO THIS CHANGE BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT SUPPORTS THE OPERATION OF THE BATCH PLANT. AND NOW THAT THEY'VE MOVED THE BATCH PLANT OVER HERE TO THE EAST SIDE OF EASTERLING, THEY'RE NOW CLOSER TO MY HOUSE. THEY'RE NOW MUCH LOUDER. AND WHEN WE HAVE A NORTHEAST WIND, WHERE DO YOU THINK THE DUST GOES? I PARK ONE VEHICLE OUTSIDE AND JUST CAN'T BELIEVE IT. UM, GIVEN THE HISTORY OF VIOLATIONS WITH THE CREEK, UM, I FEEL THIS IS AN OVERALL BAD IDEA AND I WOULD ASK YOU ALL TO CONTINUE UNTIL THIS CAN ALL BE COMBINED AND THE EAST SIDE OF EASTERLING CAN BE CONSIDERED AT THE SAME TIME. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE SMART THING TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERESA THOMAS. THERESA THOMAS, 1 0 2 2 7 MOUNT CROSBY. FOR 19 YEARS SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS HOUSE, WE'VE HAD TROUBLES WITH THE CEMENT PLANT. THEY SEEM TO THINK RULES DON'T WORK FOR THEM. THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT. ASK FOR FORGIVENESS LATER INSTEAD OF PERMISSION FIRST. THAT'S WRONG. THAT'S WRONG. THEY REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE, THEY START AT 3 30, 4 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, GO TO DARK SOMETIMES SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, NIGHTS, WEEKENDS, HOLIDAY. IT DOESN'T MATTER. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS. WE TRY TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS TO THEM AND IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. ALRIGHT. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE A CHANCE TO RESPOND YOUR MEMBERS AGAIN, ROGER PETTIS. UH, THE REQUEST IS TO INDEED HAVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS SO WE CAN, UH, BETTER IDENTIFY THAT THIS APPLICATION DOES NOT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE BATCH PROCESSOR. AND TO SORT OF CLARIFY THAT THEY, THE LOPEZS HAVE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN THIS VICINITY. OTHER LOTS THAT ARE NOT ON THIS APPLICATION AND FURTHER TO THE SOUTH. UH, BUT IN TERMS OF THIS PROPERTY, THIS APPLICATION, IT DOES NOT INCLUDE A BATCH PROCESSOR OR ANY MANUFACTURING OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE, UH, THE CEMENT CEMENT PROCESS. THEY'RE JUST MERELY AP APPLYING FOR THE C THREE NA SO THEY CAN LEASE IT AND OR SELL IT FOR A COMPATIBLE USE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND WE WOULD WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY AS WAS DIRECTED AND SUGGESTED BY THE COUNCIL PERSON TO SIT DOWN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, AND GO THROUGH THAT CONCEPT. INDEED, THEY DO OWN SOME OTHER PROPERTIES [00:35:01] THAT MAY BE BEFORE YOUR AGENDA ITEMS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE. THEY'RE NOT HERE PRESENT ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION AND WE'RE DETERMINING HOW BEST TO GO FORWARD ON THOSE. BUT WITH RESPECT TO THESE, WE WOULD LOOK FORWARD AND, AND CONSIDER, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO SIT DOWN AND VISIT WITH THESE GOOD NEIGHBORS. RIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT SIX CASE, SO COMMISSIONER HUEY. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. AND AGAIN, I WANNA APPRECIATE THE, UM, RESIDENTS FOR COMING OUT AND SPEAKING ON THIS ISSUE AND TO THE APPLICANT. UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS A COMPLICATED CASE WITH LOTS OF DIFFERENT ISSUES TO CONSIDER. AND I WOULD FOR DO FOR THE APPLICANT, MAY I SUGGEST A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE RATHER THAN THE TWO BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES FOR US TO WORK THROUGH AND TIME TO DO THIS. SO WOULD YOU CONSIDER GOING FOUR WEEKS OR YOU WANNA STAY WITH THE TWO? WE THINK TWO WEEKS WOULD BE SUFFICIENT IF YOU'RE SUGGESTING FOUR. UH, WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO MOVE THIS ALONG. STAFF HAS, HAS, UH, SUGGESTED IT'S A, A GOOD USAGE OF THIS PROPERTY. THE NEIGHBORS FOR THEIR FIVE FOLKS THAT HAVE IMPACTED AND SAID POSITIVE THINGS ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER APPLICATION NOT BEFORE THE COMMISSION TODAY THAT'S MUCH MORE CONTROVERSIAL. WE THINK THAT'S THE CONTROVERSIAL PIECE, NOT THIS ONE. SO WE WOULD THINK TWO WEEKS WOULD BE FINE, BUT IF YOU THINK IT'S FOUR WEEKS, YOU'RE THE COMMISSIONER. OKAY. WELL JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE, EVERYBODY ON CALENDAR THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, CONTINUE THIS FOR FOUR WEEKS TO, UM, MARCH APRIL 7TH. IT SO I, I CAN PROBABLY THE MOTION AT THIS POINT MAKING. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS, UH, CASE TO, UH, APRIL 7TH SECOND. ALRIGHT. OKAY. I'VE HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND, SO, BUT IT, I GUESS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION WHEN IT'S NOT EXACTLY FOUR WEEKS, WHAT WOULD THE IT IS APRIL 7TH. IT IS APRIL 7TH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. FIVE WEEKS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? I'VE HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER HUEY? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. AND COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES NINE TO ZERO FOR CONTINUANCE TO APRIL 7TH. AND MR. CHAIR, I JUST, I WANNA TAKE A MINUTE TO ASK IF THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THE AUDIENCE. THERE WAS A NUMBERING ISSUE ON THIS SIGNUP SHEET. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF NUMBERS ON HERE, BUT I THINK, UM, THERE WAS SOME INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE HERE TO SPEAK FOR THE POSTPONED ITEM. ITEM NUMBER 13 ON LEMUR. IS THERE ANYONE STILL IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TO SPEAK ON THOSE? OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT CASE PLEASE. [10. 20-2242 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700010 (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1 MLOD-1 MLR-2" General Industrial Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District to "C-2 MLOD-1 MLR-2" Commercial Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District on Lot 9, Block 5, NCB 17454, located at 12710 Mayhill Drive. Staff recommends Denial. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] GOOD AFTERNOON. COMMISSIONERS LORIANN TENNIS PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 10 LOCATED AT 1 2 7 1 0 MAYHILL DRIVE. AND IT'S A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM I ONE TO C TWO NINE. NOTICES WERE MAILED OUT TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET ZERO WERE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO. RETURNED IN OPPOSITION AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST AND FINDS THAT THE CURRENT I ONE ZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. RIGHT. MAY WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS, UH, CHELSEA RICKSON AND I OWN A GYM AT 1 2 7 1 0 MAYHILL DRIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UM, THE ENTIRE FACILITY IS 9,000 SQUARE FEET IN A QUIET, VERY LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PARK. A COUPLE OF OUR NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES ARE DOG DAYCARE, UH, MUSIC SCHOOL, AUTO [00:40:01] SHOP, MASONRY SUPPLY STORE, AND A PRINTING SOLUTION COMPANY. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S TECHNICALLY A LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA, THERE ARE MANY SMALL BUSINESSES AND RESTAURANTS IN THE IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING AREA. WE ARE REQUESTING TO REZONE THE ENTIRE LOT FROM I ONE TO C TWO TO SUPPORT TURNING ONE OF OUR SUITES INTO AN AIRBNB AS SHORT-TERM RENTALS ARE NOT ALLOWED IN I ONE ZONING DISTRICTS. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THAT WOULD JUST BE A SMALL PORTION OF OUR BUILDING THAT WE WOULD DEDICATE TO THE AIRBNB, UM, AS THE REST OF IT IS OPERATING AS A GYM CURRENTLY. JUST TO PROVIDE YOU WITH A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, CROSSFIT GYM MEMBERS ARE OFTEN WORKING PROFESSIONALS WITH DISPOSABLE INCOMES AND LOVE VISITING OTHER GYMS WHEN THEY TRAVEL EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE OVER 300 CROSSFIT MEMBERS FROM OUT OF TOWN WHO DROP IN. THERE ARE ALREADY MANY LARGE BUSINESSES AND HOTELS IN THE MEDIA AREA THAT ACCOMMODATE THESE TRAVELERS. LAST TIME I CHECKED THERE WERE OVER 15 IN A ONE MILE RADIUS. THE OVERLAP OF CROSSFIT MEMBERS AND HAVING LODGING FOR THEM MAKES THIS AIRBNB A NO-BRAINER FOR BOTH VISITORS AND CROSSFIT PARTICIPANTS ALIKE. UM, AND LASTLY, UM, IMPORTANTLY FOR US, THE LANDLORD HAS APPROVED OUR REQUEST TO REZONE AND TURN THE SPACE INTO AN AIRBNB. A COUPLE WAYS THAT IT WILL BENEFIT SAN ANTONIO PA UH, PATRONS WILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE RESTAURANTS AND LEISURE ACTIVITIES IN THE AREA. THE SUCCESS OF THIS ADDITIONAL BUSINESS THAT WE WOULD START WOULD ALSO ENSURE THE SUCCESS OF OUR GYM, KEEPING OUR DOORS OPEN TO HUNDREDS OF LOCAL HEALTH CONSCIOUS SAN ANTONIO RESIDENTS AND OUT TOWN VISITORS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES BECAUSE OF CONCERNS OF MIXING RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS. UM, HERE ARE A COUPLE POINTS. WE DON'T INTEND TO HAVE ANY MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE STAYING IN THIS AIRBNB. UM, THERE WOULD BE TWO UNITS IN THE SUITE. UM, THE AREA IS NOT AS LOUD AS YOU MIGHT THINK FOR A TYPICAL INDUSTRIAL AREA. UM, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NOISE AND THERE'S ALSO VERY LIGHT TRAFFIC. IT ACTUALLY MAKES IT PRETTY PERFECT FOR OUR GYM BECAUSE WE DO A LOT OF RUNNING AND ACTIVITY OUTSIDE. SO IT IS NOT A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AREA. WE'VE BEEN IN THE AREA FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, SO I CAN ATTEST TO THIS FROM FIVE YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. UM, AND THE CLOSEST RESTAURANT TO US IS ACTUALLY A THIRD A MILE AWAY WITH OTHER RESTAURANTS NEARBY. OUR, UH, NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR IS ZONED C THREE. SO, UH, TO CONCLUDE FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN BEING IN THE AREA FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT BY OUR GUESTS TO THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THERE WOULD BE NO IMPACT BY THE INDUSTRIAL AREA ON THE LIMITED GUESTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE IN THE AIRBNB. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NO, SIR. ALRIGHT. THIS IS A DISTRICT, DISTRICT EIGHT CASE COMMISSIONER ROMERO. SO FEW, UM, YOU, YOU ACTUALLY OKAY FOR YOU, UM, DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO AN AIRBNB, WHAT EXACTLY HAS TO BE IN THAT SPACE? IT NEEDS TO HAVE A, UH, KITCHEN AREA WITH A COOKABLE SURFACE, A BEDROOM AND A BATHROOM. AND THEY DO NEED TO SUBMIT FOR APPROVAL OF AN S T R PERMIT, SHORT-TERM RENTAL PERMIT. UH, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, UH, THE LOCATION OF PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE, AS WELL AS A FLOOR PLAN WITH CERTAIN THINGS MARKED ON IT, LIKE LOCATION OF FIRE EXTINGUISHERS AND EVACUATION ROUTES. UM, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS WITH THIS. UM, AND I'M, I'M REALLY SWAYED BY STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. SO, UM, IF YOU WANNA OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY ELSE WITH QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL ENTERTAIN QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON OUR LEFT. COMMISSIONERS ON OUR RIGHT AS COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, MY COMPUTER'S NOT OPERATING. COULD STAFF JUST KINDA EXPLAIN WHY YOU HAVE A DENIAL ON IT? WHAT, WHAT THE REASONING IS? I THINK WE WERE JUST, UM, WE FOUND THAT THE I ONE, THE CURRENT ZONING IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY THAN C TWO AND, UM, WE DON'T FIND IT OF BEING A, A FIT AREA FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. UM, RIGHT. THE AREA IS PRIMARILY I ONE THE ENTIRE AREA OTHER THAN THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH IS ZONE C THREE. AND EVEN THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH WHERE THE RESTAURANTS OR THE BARS ARE, ARE, UM, C THREE AS WELL. SO THIS LENDS ITSELF MORE TO A BUSINESS PARK AREA WITH, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO INDUSTRIAL USES. IT'S NOT GENERALLY AN AREA THAT WE WOULD INVITE THE PUBLIC INTO BECAUSE OF THE USES THAT SURROUND, UM, INDUSTRIAL [00:45:01] ZONING. OKAY. WHAT ARE THE ACTUAL USES ON THE I ONE NEXT TO THE C THREE? OR WHAT'S THE, I'M SORRY. HER CURRENT USE IS A GYMNASIUM AND THAT IS ALLOWED IN THE I ONE DISTRICT. OKAY. AND SO WHAT'S OPERATING OUT OF THE C THREE NEXT TO HERS? I BELIEVE THAT'S THE VET CLINIC, BUT CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I'M WRONG. LORIANNE, THERE IS A VET CLINIC THERE. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE WHETHER IT'S TO THE NORTH OR THE SOUTH OF IT THOUGH. AND CAN SHE HAVE A, A AIRBNB IF IT WAS ZONED C THREE OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE A A C TWO? IT HAS TO BE A C TWO. YEAH, C THREE DOES NOT PERMIT A SHORT-TERM RENTAL. OKAY. UM, OKAY. I JUST HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT THEN. WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE AIRBNB? IT'S ABOUT 1100 SQUARE FEET. AND WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF YOUR GYM? UM, THE ENTIRE FACILITY IS 9,000 SQUARE FEET. THE GYM IS APPROXIMATELY 7,000 SQUARE FEET. HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE COME TO YOUR GYM? UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 160 MEMBERS. IS THAT WEEKLY? UM, YEAH, I WOULD SAY WEEKLY. WE HAVE, UM, IN ANY GIVEN CLASS WE HAVE 20 TO 30 PEOPLE. AND SO THE AIRBNB WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE GYM? YES. SO THEY WOULD SHARE A FIREWALL. IS IT THE SAME BUILDING? IT IS THE SAME BUILDING. THEY WOULD SHARE A WALL. OKAY. AND, UM, HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK THE AIR AIRBNB WOULD BE OCCUPIED? OCCUPIED? UM, WE WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO BE OCCUPIED OVER THREE QUARTERS OF THE TIME, JUST LOOKING AT NUMBERS OF OCCUPANCY RATES IN THE AREA AND ALSO TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION HOW MANY, UH, OUTTA TOWN DROP-INS WE DO GET, WHICH IS OVER 300 EVERY YEAR. ARE THERE HOTELS IN THE AREA? THERE ARE. DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR? UM, I KNOW WITHIN A ONE MILE RADIUS THERE, THERE WERE OVER 15 PLUS THAT I SAW. I'D, I'D HAVE TO CHECK TO VERIFY, BUT THAT WAS THE LAST TIME I SAW. AND ANY OTHER AIRBNBS IN THE AREA? NOT THAT I KNOW OF MA'AM. SO WHAT'S THE, UH, WHAT IS THE TRAFFIC THAT YOU BRING IN THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW ON THE GYM? UM, RIGHT NOW, WELL, OUR PAR PARKING LOT, WE HAVE ABOUT 27 SPOTS. UM, IN OUR BUSIER CLASSES, MOST OF THOSE PARKING SPOTS WOULD BE FILLED. I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. UM, TELL ME AGAIN THE, I I GET THAT YOU, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUT OF THE ORDINARY TO HAVE AN AIRBNB IN INDUSTRIAL, ALTHOUGH WAREHOUSING OR LOFTS ARE KIND OF NORMAL TO LIVE IN. UM, IS THERE, DO YOU HAVE, IS THERE A SAFETY ISSUE OTHER THAN IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOUR ISSUE IS THAT IT'S OUT OF THE NORM FOR RESIDENTIAL AND THAT INDUSTRIAL, I MEAN, WE'VE DONE INDUSTRIAL, WE'VE DONE RESIDENTIAL INACTIVE INDUSTRIAL AREAS BEFORE. WELL, I THINK, LIKE CHRISTIE SAID, WE JUST, UM, LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES IN THE USES THERE AND WE FELT THAT IT LENDS ITSELF MORE TO A COMMERCIAL OR INDUSTRIAL PARK MORE SO THAN WHERE WE MIGHT WANNA INVITE PEOPLE FROM OUT OF TOWN OR EVEN IN TOWN TO, TO STAY SHORT TERM OR LONG TERM. SO COULD YOU CONSIDER AN AIRBNB A COMMERCIAL? IT'S A DEFINITELY A C TWO USE. YEAH. YEAH. SO IT'S A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S BOTH, IT, IT'S A C TWO USE. IT'S PERMITTED BY RIDE IN C TWO, BUT IT'S ALSO PERMITTED BY RIDE IN IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS AS WELL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THANK YOU. UM, MS. RICKSON, I REALLY, UH, APPLAUD THE, UM, CREATIVITY OF THIS AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE IT'S COMING FROM. UH, BUT I HAVE TO GO WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATION ON THIS. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL JUST FOR THE C TWO AND I, I, THAT COULD BE KIND OF ARGUABLE, BUT, BUT I RESPECT THAT. BUT, UH, BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE FOR A SHORT-TERM RENTAL, THAT, THAT IS A RESIDENTIAL USE, THAT THAT'S PEOPLE SLEEPING OVERNIGHT IN AN AREA. AND AS MUCH AS WE MOVE TOWARDS MIXED USE, WHICH IS GREAT IN A LOT OF AREAS OF MIXING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL MIX MIXING, RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL IS NOT SOMETHING WE DO THERE. THERE MAY BE LOFTS [00:50:01] THAT COME UP IN OLD INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, BUT THIS IS STILL INDUSTRIAL USE. IT'S ZONED FOR INDUSTRIAL, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE USES ARE, ARE A LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL, IT'S ZONED INDUSTRIAL. AND I REALLY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE STAYING OVERNIGHT HERE WITH, WITH POLICE ISSUES AND FIRE ISSUES AND INDUSTRIAL HAZARD SAFETY ISSUES. I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THIS. UM, THERE ARE MANY MOTELS, AS SHE SAID IN THE NEARBY AREA, SO I JUST DON'T SEE THE HUGE NEED TO DO THIS, UM, THAT WOULD WARRANT, UM, MIXING RESIDENTIAL IN INDUSTRIAL, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE IN DISTRICT EIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE REALLY HAVE ANYWHERE. SO, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER 10, I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR, UM, APPROVAL OF STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL. SECOND, I'VE HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? JUST TO CLARIFY, IT'S A MOTION TO DENY. I HAVE SO FEW CASES. . ALRIGHT. NO QUESTIONS OR NO, NO COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT COMMENTS. I, I JUST WANNA ECHO MY COLLEAGUES. I I DO APPRECIATE YOUR CREATIVITY. I JUST, I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S THE WRONG LOCATION TO BRING IN THAT KIND OF USE AT THIS POINT IN TIME. JUST AS I DON'T SUPPORT BRINGING IN A LOT OF COMMERCIAL USES TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. I JUST CAN'T GET BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. BUT I DO WISH YOU BEST OF LUCK WITH YOUR CROSSFIT, UM, PURPOSES IN THE FUTURE. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS YOUR GENIUS AND YOU'RE FORWARD THINKING AND I LIKE THAT. UM, IT DOES, IT IS VERY OUT OF THE NORM AND I THINK THAT'S HOW YOUR GENERATION TENDS TO THINK. UM, YOU, I'M IN A TRADITIONAL HOME IN A TRADITIONAL RESIDENCE AND PRETTY COMFORTABLE THERE, BUT I, THIS IS NOT UNUSUAL. IT'S NOT OUT OF THE NORM TO ME. I'VE SEEN THESE IN OTHER INDUSTRIAL PARK AREAS AND BUSINESS PARK AREAS. UM, PEOPLE LIVE IN YOU. I BELIEVE CODE ALLOWS YOU TO LIVE IN ONE SIDE OF YOUR BUILDING IF THAT IS, IF YOU ARE THE MAINTENANCE, UH, FOR THAT PER, FOR THAT BUSINESS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. SO YOU MIGHT EXPLORE THAT AVENUE. UM, BUT AIRBNB IS, THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT CROP UP EVERYWHERE. WE WOULD COMPLAIN IF THEY'RE ON A RESIDENTIAL STREET AND HERE WE HAVE IT OFF, OFF THAT KIND OF A GRID. I THINK IT'S IN THE RIGHT PLACE. UM, I JUST CAME FROM DAYTONA DAY, DAYTONA DAYTON, AND THEY GOT LOFTS AND WAREHOUSE AIRBNBS EVERYWHERE. THEY'RE FANTASTIC. IT IS AMAZING WHAT STARTS TO GROW UP AND THE AMOUNT OF ENTERPRISE THAT GROWS AROUND THEM. SO DON'T GIVE UP. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'LL GET YOUR APPROVAL TODAY. I SUPPORT YOUR CAUSE. I, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR DENIAL THOUGH. OKAY. NO OTHER COMMENTS. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY? YES. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. AND COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR DENIAL EIGHT TO ONE CASE. NEXT CASE PLEASE. [15. 20-1985 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700021 S (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1 AHOD" General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "I-1 S AHOD" General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Specific Use Authorization for Metal Products - Fabrication on 0.2599 acres out of NCB 6615, located at 102 Jon Ann Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Patricia Franco, Planner (210) 207-5876, patricia.franco@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).] GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. PATRICIA FRANCO ZONING. ITEM 15 IS A REQUEST TO CHANGE ZONING FROM I ONE TO I ONE SS LOCATED AT 1 0 2. JOHN ANN. 11 NOTICES WERE MAILED TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. FIVE RETURNED IN FAVOR, ZERO IN OPPOSITION. AND THE UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THE CURRENT I ONE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED BASE ZONING DISTRICT OF I ONE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE, THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR METAL PRODUCTS, HOWEVER, WITH A FABRIC MANUFACTURING IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THIS HAS UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS OR POTENTIAL IMPACTS THAT REQUIRE ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION BECAUSE FAB FABRICATION MANUFACTURING IS NOT A USE THAT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN I ONE. THE LOCATION SURROUNDING USES AND POTENTIAL IMPACTS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL AND THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT. [00:55:09] GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JAMES POOLE, UH, AND I'M THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING. I OPERATED MY OWN BUSINESS IN THAT BUILDING FOR 28 YEARS. AND, UM, I I AM ALSO PASSING OUT TO YOU, UH, LITERATURE AND, UH, FAX ON THE PROPERTY. UM, THIS PROPERTY IS IN THE MIDDLE OF HEAVY INDUSTRY AND IT'S A AREA OF SAN ANTONIO THAT IS MUCH NEGLECTED, UM, AND, UH, MUCH IN NEED OF OF OCCUPANCY. UM, MY BUILDING I WOULD SUBMIT TO YOU IS IN FACT COULD YOU PASS THESE OUT AS WELL? THANK YOU. MY BUILDING IS, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THE BETTER, UH, BUILT BUILDINGS. IT'S ONE OF THE BETTER KEPT BUILDINGS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M PASSING OUT TO YOU PICTURES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M PASSING OUT TO YOU PICTURES OF MY BUILDING. I'M PASSING OUT PICTURES OF COMPANIES THAT IN FACT DO OR HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, METAL FORMING, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE'S SO MANY OTHERS THAT I PASSED YESTERDAY. ONE ON BRAZOS AND COLLAR, ONE ON, ON COLLAB AND COLORADO. THAT IS A METAL FORMING COMPANY, BUT WITHIN ONE BLOCK, NORTHEAST AND WEST OF MY BUILDING, I'M GIVING YOU PICTURES OF SIX COMPANIES THAT IN FACT FORM METAL. UH, THE MOST, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CLOSEST ONES IS, IS AT THE CORNER OF JOHN ANNE, WHICH IS WHERE MY BUILDING IS LOCATED. UH, IT'S ON JOHN ANNE IN CINCINNATI. JOHN ANNE IS A ONE BLOCK STREET, PRIMARILY USED AS AN ACCESS STREET TO THE, TO THE FREEWAY. UM, IN THAT HANDOUT THAT I'M GIVING TO YOU, YOU'LL SEE THAT I'VE GOT THE APPROVAL. I HAVE EIGHT APPROVALS, UH, FOR THE ZONING CHANGE I HAVE. UM, THERE WERE SEVEN SENT OUT. THERE WERE SIX SENT BACK. ONE PERSON RESIDES WITH A PO BOX AND I COULDN'T GET THAT ONE, BUT I GOT TWO OTHERS ON JOHN ANNE STREET THAT ARE CLOSE TO MY BUILDING. SO I'M, I'M GIVING YOU, UH, EIGHT. UM, THE, THE PICTURE WHERE I THINK THE FEAR OF CONGESTION IS, IS BEHIND MY BUILDING. AND THAT IS A, A DIRT EASEMENT OWNED BY UNION PACIFIC. AND MY BUILDING BACKS UP TO THAT EASEMENT, BUT THERE'S 65 FEET BETWEEN MY BUILDING AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THE METAL FORMING COMPANY IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL COMPANY MOVING TO THIS AREA. THEY, UH, WOULD ONLY OPERATE WITH ONE PERSON, ONE CAR THAT HE WOULD USE TO COME TO AND FROM WORK. THE FLATBED TRAILER THAT THEY WOULD USE TO FORM, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE THE METAL TO THEIR JOB SITES WOULD BE STORED INSIDE THEIR RENTED SPACE. THERE WOULD BE NO EXPOSURE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, OF THIS PERSON'S OPERATION. ALL TRASH, ALL, ALL METAL, UH, SURPLUSES WOULD BE TAKEN DOWN TO CITYWIDE METAL, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK FROM MY BUILDING. UH, WE HAVE IT IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT THAT IN FACT THEY WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PERIMETER, THEIR PERIMETER OF THE BUILDING. UM, I HAVE ALSO AN APPROVAL FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT, UH, TO COUNCILMAN ROBERTO TREVINO, UH, AUTHORIZING OR REQUESTING THE THE ZONING CHANGE. UH, I'VE ALSO, IN MY HANDOUT, YOU KNOW, I I'M SHOWING YOU THAT THE DIAGRAM OF MY BUILDING ON THE BLOCK THAT, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE BUILDING, THAT, THAT ALLEYWAY, THAT EASEMENT, IT'S A DEAD END STREET. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH THAT STREET. IT'S ONLY VERY SPECIFIC USE. ONE WOULD BE FOR PEOPLE OCCUPYING MY BUILDING, BUT THE OTHER WOULD BE FOR 1 34 JOHN ANN, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IN THE MORNING THEY COME PICK UP SHEET ROCK AND THEN THEY GO GO. IT'S HEAVY INDUSTRY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND FRANKLY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COULD USE A, A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOT IN THE ARM WITH A NEW BUSINESS. I'VE ALSO HANDWRITTEN TO YOU A DIAGRAM OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW. UM, I COUNTED TRAFFIC YESTERDAY. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC ON THAT STREET. AND THIS WAS, UH, BETWEEN ONE 30 IN THE, IN THE AFTERNOON AND 2 45 IN THE AFTERNOON. UM, THERE WERE, UH, GOING IN FRONT OF MY BUILDING ON JOHN N STREET. THERE WAS, THERE WERE 369 CARS IN 45 MINUTES, [01:00:01] EIGHT CARS A MINUTE USING THE TRAFFIC TURN LANE TO GO UP ONTO THE FREEWAY. JOHN ANNE HAS AN ADDITIONAL TWO LANES IN FRONT OF MY BUILDING. IN THAT 45 MINUTES PERIOD OF TIME, THERE WERE ONLY THREE VEHICLES THAT USED JOHN ANNE TO GO STRAIGHT ON TOWARDS CINCINNATI STREET COMING, UH, WESTBOUND ON COLLIBRA, THERE WERE 121 VEHICLES REACHING THAT INTERSECTION IN 30 MINUTES. THAT'S FOUR VEHICLES A MINUTE, TWO LANES, THAT'S TWO VEHICLES A MINUTE. SO THERE'S REALLY NO TRAFFIC, THERE'S NO CONGESTION. AND THE GUARANTEE FROM THE TENANT IN HIS LETTER, THAT'S THE LAST ITEM THAT I'VE GIVEN TO YOU. IT SAYS WE WILL BE EMPLOYING ONE PERSON AT THE LOCATION. THERE WILL BE ONE TRUCK IN THE TRAILER. THE TRAILER WILL ALWAYS BE INSIDE. WE WILL RECEIVE ONE DELIVERY A MONTH FROM MATERIAL. THE EMPLOYEE LOCATE AT THE LOCATION WILL BE DELIVERING MATERIALS TO THE JOB SITES. IN OTHER WORDS, IT WON'T BE USED FOR RETAIL. WE WON'T BE HAVING CUSTOMERS COMING IN. UM, AND NO ONE WILL BE PICKING UP MATERIAL FROM THE SITE. THE EMPLOYEE WILL BE PARKING BEHIND THE BUILDING AND THE FLATBED WILL BE INSIDE THE BUILDING. WE WILL NOT BE STORING OR LEAVING ANYTHING OUTSIDE AT ANY TIME. FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME WITH QUESTIONS. UM, WE RESPECT THE STAFF, UH, THINKING THAT THIS HEAVY METAL, IT'S NOT HEAVY METAL, IT'S ROOFING MATERIAL. THEY FORM METAL ROOFING AND GUTTERS FOR HOMES. UH, THEY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE. THEY'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS. UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD POSITIVE SHOT IN THE ARM FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD VACANCY IS HIGH. AND UH, THAT WAS ONE REASON WHY I COULDN'T GET THAT EIGHTH OR THE, THE LAST APPROVAL BECAUSE THAT RENTAL PROPERTY WAS VACANT. SO, YOU KNOW, I I I RESPECT THE FACT THAT THIS IS A 23 YEAR OLD PLAN, BUT THIS IS NOT GONNA HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, IT IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL, IT'S ALL KINDS OF INDUSTRY AND THERE'S ALL KINDS OF METAL FORMING BEING DONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, WHETHER IT'S RIGHT OR NOT IS NOT MY DECISION, BUT I'M ASKING FOR SPECIFIC USE. THE USE THE SPACE REQUIRED IS ONLY GONNA BE ABOUT 35% OF THE TOTAL SPACE OF MY BUILDING. UM, AND IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE SURROUNDINGS, YOU'LL SEE THAT I KEEP MY BUILDING CLEAN. AND UH, AGAIN, THERE'S, THERE'S CAN'T BE ANY, ANY REAL, UH, IMPACT IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT ONE EMPLOYEE. UM, AND THEY KNOW THE ISSUE. THEY KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO KEEP BE RESPONSIBLE WITH WHAT THEY DO. AND I'M AN ONSITE LANDLORD. I MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TAKEN, YOU KNOW, THE WAY, THE WAY THE LEASE IS WRITTEN. UM, THIS WOULD BE A BUSINESS THAT COULD CONTINUE ON IF FOR SOME REASON I WERE TO SELL THE BUILDING. BUT I DON'T EVER PLAN ON SELLING THE BUILDING. UH, IT'S BEEN GOOD TO ME. IT'S A GOOD LOCATION AND I INTEND TO OPERATE IT AS A GOOD CLEAN BUSINESS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, AND THAT'S WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS. SO I, I'M ASKING YOU FOR A SPECIFIC, UH, GRANTING FOR USE FOR THAT BUILDING TO ALLOW ME TO ALLOW MY TENANT TO FORM METAL ROOFING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. DISTRICT ONE, CASE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANKS. UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR, UM, STAFF. AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. YES. UM, SO CAN YOU GIMME A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY OF THE ZONING ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, THROUGH THE CODE CONVERSION IN 2001? WHAT WAS IT PREVIOUSLY? WHAT WAS IT AFTER? HAS IT BEEN REZONED FOR AT ANY POINT IN TIME? IT WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED, UH, IT WAS ORIGINALLY A PART OF THE ORIGINAL THREE SIX SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONED L WHICH WAS, UM, THE FIRST MANUFACTURING DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWED UP TO WHAT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT I TO TODAY. UM, HOWEVER, THIS PROPERTY WAS REZONED BY ORDINANCE 86 7 0 4, UH, DATED SEPTEMBER 25TH, 1997. ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE 23 YEAR OLD PLAN WAS ESTABLISHED. UM, AND IT WAS ZONED TO I ONE LIGHT INDUSTRY DISTRICT. I ONE THEN CONVERTED WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2001 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT, UM, CODE, UH, TO I THE CURRENT I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. OKAY. UM, AND HAVE THERE BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS, UM, FROM ANY SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS? ARE YOU GUYS AWARE OF ANY ISSUES WITH THE OPERATION [01:05:01] OF THE PROPERTY? I DIDN'T SEE ANY IN THE CODE REPORT THAT WAS, UH, SHARED WITH US. RIGHT. WITH BY CODE. OKAY. AND FINAL QUESTION, UM, WOULD THIS SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION ALLOW ANY OUTDOOR STORAGE? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. NORMALLY THEY'RE, UH, ALLOWANCES FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE WITH, UH, I ONE TYPE USES. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION, YOU CAN ADD A CONDITION THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE THAT WE CAN ENFORCE, UH, THROUGH THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. UM, I'M ALL GOOD WITH QUESTIONS FOR Y'ALL. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. PLEASE. THANKS. UM, COULD YOU GIVE ME SOME OF THE HISTORY OF THE OPERATIONS OF YOUR PROPERTY? I KNOW YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU'VE OWNED IT FOR A LONG TIME. WHAT WAS IT OPERATED AS PREVIOUSLY TO THE TENANT THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW? IN 1992, I PURCHASED THE BUILDING. IT WAS VACANT. UH, IT HAD IN, IT WAS BUILT IN 1946. UM, IT HAD BEEN VACANT AND I BOUGHT IT IN 1992. AND 1992 IS THE YEAR THAT I GOT THE C OF O AS AN I ONE, NOT 1997. IT WAS 1992. UH, AND I'VE GOT A C F O HANGING ON THE WALL TO THAT EFFECT. UM, I OPERATED MY OWN COMPANY. UH, I INCORPORATED THE BUSINESS IN 1987 AND I MOVED MY BUSINESS TO THAT PROPERTY IN 1992. THE NAME OF MY COMPANY WAS ROYAL WINDOW FASHIONS. AND THERE WE MANUFACTURED BLINDS AND SHADES, DRAPERIES, ALL TYPES OF MOTORIZED EQUIPMENT. UM, WE WERE THE ONLY MANUFACTURER OF WINDOW TREATMENTS IN SAN ANTONIO. EVERYONE ELSE BOUGHT FROM SOMEBODY ELSE OUT OF TOWN. I EMPLOYED 43 AND 43 PEOPLE. UM, WE HAD A GOOD SOLID BUSINESS. UH, I SOLD MY BUSINESS, UH, IN 2015 AND I SOLD IT TO A FELLOW WHO WAS MY BUSINESS BROKER. UH, AND, UH, HE HAD A MASTER'S DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION. AND IT TOOK HIM TWO YEARS TO RUIN MY BUSINESS. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT DO I DO? DO I, DO I GO BACK TO THE BUSINESS THAT HE KILLED OR DO I TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING BETTER OF IT? AND SO THAT'S WHAT I DID. I I, I THREW OUT, I DIDN'T THROW OUT, I MOVED OUT ALL OF MY EQUIPMENT, GAVE IT TO MY BEST EMPLOYEE AND TOLD HER TO GO MAKE SOMETHING OF HERSELF. AND I OPENED UP THE BUILDING FOR, YOU KNOW, AND TRIED TO BECOME A LANDLORD. AND I'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT. AND SO YOU DID MANUFACTURE, UM, YOU USED, YOU DID SOME METAL FABRICATION? YEAH, UNKNOW. YOU KNOW, I HAD MY, I I ONE, UH, AND OF COURSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE LAWS HAVE CHANGED SINCE 1992, BUT YOU KNOW, UH, I MANUFACTURED AND FORMED METAL HEAD RAILS, TUBING, UH, MOTORS, UH, SHADE HANGING, UH, APPARATUS. I DID ALL OF THAT IN-HOUSE. ALL OF MY 43 EMPLOYEES DID IT ALL. THEY, THEY DID EVERYTHING. WE BROUGHT 18 WHEELERS IN, THEY UNLOADED, WE BUILT THE PRODUCTS AND THERE WAS NO CONGESTION. THERE WAS NONE OF THAT. OKAY. AND, UM, WELL, SO TO TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, THE ACTIVITY THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE WITH YOUR TENANT WILL TAKE PLACE ENTIRELY WITHIN THE BUILDING. ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T MIND YOU SAYING THAT THERE CAN BE NO TRASH OUTSIDE. YOU KNOW, I LEAVE A DUMPSTER THERE FOR EVERYONE, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD RETAIN TRASH. BUT IT'S PICKED UP EVERY WEEK. SO YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO A CONDITION ON THE SPECIFIC USE OF AUTHOR? ABSOLUTE AUTHORIZATION OF AB ABSOLUTELY. NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. ABSOLUTELY. I DON'T WANT TRASH OUT THERE EITHER. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ALRIGHT, WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT. COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. YEAH, I I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, THAT'S SPECIAL USE THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT. AND I TWO, FABRIC MANUFACTURING, FA METAL FA ME FABRICATION OF METAL PRODUCTS IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT. AND I TWO, UH, THE [01:10:01] SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IS ALLOWING HIM TO CONDITION DOWN THE I TWO USE. SO I, I GUESS I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK MAY MAYBE KATT OR, OR PATRICIA, WHAT IS IT ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR USE THAT LANDS IT IN I TWO VERSUS I ONE? IS IT PARTICULARLY NOISY OR DOES IT HAVE FUMES OR, UM, SO METAL PRODUCTS FABRICATION CAN LEND ITSELF TO BECOME SORT OF AN EYESORE BLIGHT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IT, IT, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HIS SPECIFIC, BUT IT COULD LEAD TO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, HE TALKED ABOUT ROOF SHINGLES. UM, SO THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BUSINESSES, NOT SO NEIGHBORLY, THAT HAVE CREATED PILES AND PILES OF ROOF SHINGLES AND IT'S BECOME, UM, A CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. SO THOSE, THE REASON WHY THOSE TYPE OF USES ARE ONLY PERMITTED IN I TWO IS BECAUSE DEPENDING UPON THE OPERATION, IT CAN BE NOISY, IT CAN BE UNSIGHTLY, IT CAN, UH, LEAD TO CODE, CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. ON A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT BECOMES MORE NOTICEABLE. AND AGAIN, ZONING IS NOT TIED TO AN OWNER, A SPECIFIC BUSINESS, IT'S IN PERPETUITY UNTIL REZONED AGAIN. SO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT FUTURE THAT IF THIS PROPERTY WERE TO EVER BE SOLD IN ANY OTHER METAL PRODUCTS, FABRICATION USE COULD GO IN THERE. OKAY. BUT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE MAINLY THE CONCERNS ARE WITH THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO WHAT GOES ON INSIDE OF THE BUILDING. YES. BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY COULD TEND TO BECOME OUTSIDE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? RIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UM, TO STAFF ON UNDER IDEA OF PRESERVING THE MIDTOWN CHARACTER. IF WE GO TO, UH, GOAL NUMBER TWO, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ANTICIP, IT LOOKS LIKE THE GOAL OF THIS AREA WOULD BE MORE FOR RETAIL CENTERS WITH SIDEWALKS. SO IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING, THAT THAT SPACE REALLY IS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE DOWN THE ROAD TO BECOME? I THINK WHEN THE, THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, DEFINITELY ONE OF THEIR GOALS, BUT I WOULD DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO MORE PERHAPS THE MAKING, WALKING COMFORTABLE AND ENJOYABLE WITH LIGHTING TREES AND SLOWER TRAFFIC. UM, AND GOAL SIX TO ENCOURAGE BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND RENOVATIONS TO BEAUTIFY COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS AND CREATE WALKABLE, ATTRACTIVE STREET AREAS NEXT TO BUILDINGS. BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, THE ENTRANCE TO, UH, WHAT IS AN ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL AREA. OKAY. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S SIDEWALKS THERE ALREADY, SO SIDEWALKS DON'T, UM, ALONE DON'T LEND TO AN ENJOYABLE LIGHTING TREES OR, OR UM, UH, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AREA. UM, OKAY. SO WOULD YOU PREFER THAT THERE BE SOME TYPE OF LIGHTING ALONG COLLIBRA? I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER OF PREFERENCE. IT'S A MATTER OF THAT IT CONFLICT CONFLICTS WITH THE ESTABLISHED THE GOALS THAT THE, UM, UH, STAKEHOLDERS ESTABLISHED FOR THE MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN. OKAY. SO IS THERE, SO IF HE WERE TO ADD SOME OF THESE, UM, I ITEMS THAT WOULD NOT REACH ONE OF THE GOALS FOR YOU IF HE ADDED TREES AND SOME DECORATIVE LIGHTING OUTSIDE THE BUILDING? 'CAUSE IT HA DOES HAVE SIDEWALK. OH, DOES USE IS, IS TIED IN PERPETUITY TO THE LAND. UH, BRINGING IN AN INTENSE HIGHER LEVEL. I TWO USE TO AN I ONE AREA THAT IS ADJACENT TO A NEIGHBOR, NEIGHBORHOOD RESIDENTIAL AREA IN CON THAT CONFLICTS, CONFLICTS WITH THE, UM, THE GOALS OF THE MIDTOWN PLAN IS, IS THE ISSUE HERE, NOT, IT'S NOT, UM, INTRICATE DETAILS LIKE TREES OR LIGHTING, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS KIND OF, THIS IS NEXT TO A HIGHWAY. UM, ARE YOU TELLING ME, ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU WOULD PREFER MORE OF A WALKABLE RETAIL SHOPPING SCHOOL THERE INSTEAD OF AN INDUSTRIAL RIGHT UP AGAINST, UH, AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY? I'M TELLING YOU THAT THE, UM, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE IS IN CONFLICT WITH THE ESTABLISHED GOAL OF, UH, GOALS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. THANK YOU, . ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. GREAT. UM, I'LL COME BACK. COMMISSIONER JONES, YOU HAD A [01:15:01] QUESTION OR? YES, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. UH, SHE WAS SAYING STOR, UH, SHE WAS SAYING NO STORAGE OUTSIDE WOULD BE ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS AND YOU KEPT REFERRING TO TRASH. IS THERE A WAY TO PUT STORAGE AND OR TRASH IN THE RESTRICTION IN THE SPECIFICATION? YES. AGAIN, IT CAN BE NOT ALLOWING ANY OUTSIDE STORAGE CAN BE PART OF THAT ORDINANCE, THAT PART OF THAT CONDITION. IT BECOMES AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE, IF THEY DON'T COMPLY, WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ENFORCE. AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. OKAY. AND I'M, I'M SORRY. 'CAUSE I, ON THE ONE HAND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THIS IS TOO HEAVY OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE, BUT I CAN SEE IN THE AREA THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME SIMILAR USES AND YET IT'S NOT, IT'S THE MIDTOWN PLAN. SO IS IT MORE THE MIDTOWN PLAN, UM, CONFLICT THAT'S CAUSING STAFF TO DENY THIS OR THE ACTUAL INTENDED USE? I THINK IT'S TWO PRONGED. I THINK IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY IN CONFLICT WITH THE PLAN. AND AS KAT MENTIONED, THAT THESE TYPES OF USES TEND TO BECOME CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES. UH, IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT, UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT WOULD MAINTAIN A CLEAN, UM, UH, WELL MAINTAINED BUILDING. IT'S WHAT HAPPENS AFTERWARDS IF, IF THIS IS SOLD OR IF THIS IS EVER, UM, NO LONGER HIS, HE'S NOT NO LONGER THE OWNER. SOMEONE ELSE CAN COME IN AND PUT A METAL FABRICATION, UM, PLANT IN AND IT JUST BECOMES THIS GROWING NUISANCE. OKAY. WE'RE HE'S ASKING FOR A SPECIFIC USE. SO IF, IF HE SELLS THE BUSINESS, ANYONE WITH ANYONE COULD COME IN AS LONG AS THEY WERE GONNA DO METAL FABRICATION, THEY COULDN'T COME IN WITH JUST REGULAR ROOFING MATERIALS. THEY GET ALL THE RIGHTS FROM THE I ONE PLUS THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR METAL FABRICATION. THAT NEVER GOES AWAY UNLESS IT'S REZONED. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT, AND THIS IS AN EDUCATION TO ME, THAT IF WE DID A SPECIFIC USE THAT ONCE THAT BUSINESS SELLS, UNLESS THEY CONTINUE THAT EXACT SPECIFIC USE, THEY'RE NOT PROPERLY ZONED, SO THEY COULDN'T COME IN AND TURN IT IN AN AUTOMOTIVE SHOP OR CHEMICAL PREPARATION PLANT. SO AUTO, AUTO BODY SHOP IS ALLOWED BY RIDE IN I ONE, SO IT COULD BECOME AN AUTOBODY SHOP. THE SS IS TIED TO THE METAL PRODUCTS FABRICATION. HE, HE IS, UH, HIS METAL PRODUCT MAY BE ONE TYPE OF METAL PRODUCT, BUT THERE COULD BE ANY OTHER METAL PRODUCT FABRICATIONS THAT COME IN. OKAY. WAIT, LET ME ASK THIS IN REVERSE BECAUSE AS I'M READING THIS, HE ALREADY HAS I ONE, CORRECT. SO IT COULD ALREADY BE ANY OF THOSE OTHER THINGS. CORRECT. WE COULD ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE JUNK VEHICLES THAT CO COMPLIANCE. SO I'M NOT REALLY SEEING THAT AS AN ISSUE HERE. TO ME, MY QUESTION IS, IS THE, IS THE ACTUAL USE OF, OR THE ACTUAL DOING OF THE WORK AN ISSUE FOR THAT AREA? SO I DON'T KNOW, IS HE GONNA USE ACETYLENE TORCHES TO CUT? UH, IS THIS MACHINERY TYPE THAT DOES THE BENDING? IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND MORE OF THAT? YES. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND. AGAIN, HE MAY NOT BE DOING THAT, BUT ANOTHER USE COULD BE THAT IS STILL THAT 'CAUSE THAT TYPE OF CUTTING OF, OF METAL PRODUCTS IS METAL PRODUCTS FABRICATION THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED. HE MAY NOT BE DOING IT, BUT THE NEXT PERSON WILL. AND SO AGAIN, IT IS ABOUT, WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY I ONE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT, AND THERE ARE OTHER I ONE USES THAT COULD GO THERE TODAY. THE SS IS WHAT GIVES US, GIVES US PAUSE TO LOOK AT WHERE IS IT AT, HOW, HOW BIG OR HOW SMALL IS THE PROPERTY? UM, AND, AND A LOOK, LOOK AT THOSE THINGS TO SEE IF NOT JUST HIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS, BUT ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT DOES METAL PRODUCTS FABRICATION AND IS THAT THE IDEAL SITE FOR IT? AND IN OUR OPINION, IT'S NOT. IT'S, IT'S JUST OUR OPINION. BUT THAT'S JUST BASED ON YOUR OPINIONS, BASED ON THE MIDTOWN PLAN. THAT IS ONE OF THE, NOT SO MUCH AS THE USE, IT'S BOTH. IT'S LIKE SHE SAID, IT'S TWO-PRONGED. IT'S BOTH. WE UTILIZE THE PLAN TO GIVE US GUIDANCE, RIGHT. SO WE USE THAT TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. WE DO KNOW THAT THESE PROPERTIES ARE ALONG A RAILROAD TRACK. THEY'RE ALSO VERY SMALL AND THEY'RE ALSO ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH, WITH COMMERCIAL USES ALONG COLLIBRA ROAD. IT IS THE GATEWAY. IT MAY BE NEXT TO A FREEWAY, BUT IT IS A GATEWAY FREEWAY. IT IS A VERY BUSY FREEWAY OF ON, ON I 10 THAT YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES AS YOU DRIVE BY. AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE COMPONENTS. IT'S NOT JUST ISOLATED BECAUSE THE PLAN SAYS WE WANT WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOODS. IT'S JUST ONE OF THE COMPONENTS. OKAY. WELL THANK YOU. I I, THIS JUST COMES DOWN TO ME AS THE USE AND IT'S ALREADY GOT I ONE ON IT. I'M DON'T QUITE SEE THE, THE ISSUE, BUT THANK YOU. RIGHT. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UM, BEFORE [01:20:01] I START, COULD I, COULD I GET YOU GUYS TO BRING UP THE G I S MAP? YOU CAN ACTUALLY SCROLL BACK OUT JUST A LITTLE. OKAY. AND THE CURSOR IS POINTING TO THE PROPERTY NOW. OKAY, PERFECT. OKAY. SO, UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REZONING FOR ITEM 15 WITH A CONDITION THAT THERE BE NO OUTDOOR STORAGE RIDGE AND THE REASONS, MULTIPLE REASONS WHY. UM, YOU KNOW, READING THROUGH THE STAFF'S, UM, REPORT, UH, THERE WAS, IT SEEMED LIKE A LOT OF IT FOCUSED NOT ONLY ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, UM, AS COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, UH, SEEMED TO FOCUS IN ON, BUT ALSO THE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS, WHICH, UM, KIND OF PUZZLES ME A LITTLE BIT. UM, GIVEN WHEN I LOOK AT THE G I S, UM, IT IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL. UM, WE HAVE A C TWO AND A C THREE USE ACROSS A RAILROAD TRACK. UM, THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED NEXT TO NOT ONLY A FREEWAY, BUT A DOUBLE DECKER FREEWAY. THIS IS WHERE I 10 IS, UM, AT TWO LEVELS. UM, AND I HAVE SOME FAMILIARITY WITH THE AREA, UM, UH, TRAVELING TO ST. MARY'S, UM, ON COLLIBRA ROAD. UM, SO IT, IT, IT'S A HARD CORNER THERE WITH A FREEWAY. UM, IT'S NOT, I THINK AS, AS, AS BUSY AS, AS STAFF MAYBE HAS INDICATED THAT IT IS. UM, SO I'M, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UM, THE TRAFFIC MAYBE AS STAFF IS. AND I THINK, UNLIKE THE EASTERLING CASE THAT WE JUST HEARD EARLIER, THIS IS A SMALL TRACT LAND. IT'S ONLY A QUARTER OF AN ACRE. IT HAS A SMALL BUILDING LOCATED ON IT. UM, I DO NOT BELIEVE IT IS CAPABLE OF HAVING A MAJOR IMPACT ON THE FEW RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY. IN FACT, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE 200 RA, UH, FOOT RADIUS, IT ONLY, UH, TOUCHES ONE RESIDENTIAL TRACT. UM, AND JUST A PART OF THAT TRACT. UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. WE DO HAVE THE BUFFER ZONE. AGAIN, WE HAVE THE, THE RAILROAD TRACK. UM, ADDITIONALLY, UM, AS FAR AS HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, UM, I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN ADEQUATE BUFFER ON ALL SIDES. AND GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE TRACT AND THE NA NATURE OF THE OPERATIONS THAT WILL BE TAKING PLACE ENTIRELY INDOORS, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT WILL HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE. AND FINALLY, FOR THE PUBLIC POLICY PART OF IT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN, UM, WHILE I REALLY RESPECT THE GOALS OF THE PLAN, I BELIEVE THAT THEY ARE, UM, MAYBE A LITTLE AMBITIOUS FOR, FOR THIS AREA, GIVEN THIS, IT, IT'S KIND OF A HARSH ENVIRONMENT, RIGHT? WE HAVE, AGAIN, THE DOUBLE DECKER FREEWAY. WE HAVE THE, UH, THE RAILROAD AND ADDITIONALLY SOME OTHER VERY HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USES IN THAT AREA. I, I JUST FAILED TO SEE THIS BECOMING LIKE A WALKABLE MIXED USE AREA GIVEN THE SURROUNDING AREA. AND WHILE THAT MIGHT BE, UM, THE GOAL OF THE MIDTOWN PLAN, I, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S PARTICULARLY APPLICABLE TO THIS AREA OF MIDTOWN. UM, SEE, I HAVE SOME MORE. UM, I WOULD, I WOULD COME DOWN DIFFERENTLY ON THIS CASE. I THINK IF IT WAS LOCATED EAST ON CULEBRA AND BACKED UP TO A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. UM, HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. UM, AND, UH, THE ZONING IS PERMITTING A USE THAT HAS BEEN THERE IN PART, UM, YOU KNOW, THE METAL FABRICATION THAT'S BEEN OCCURRING. UM, I, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE GIVEN THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND THE CURRENT USES OF THOSE. AND, UM, AND I THINK THIS IS A, SOMETHING THAT COMMISSIONER GIBBONS MIGHT SAY, UM, OFTEN IS THAT WITH RESPECT TO STAFF'S CONCERN FOR BLIGHT AND DETERIORATING BUILDINGS, I THINK THE WORST OUTCOME IS TO HAVE A BUILDING THAT'S EMPTY, THAT DOESN'T HAVE INCOME, AND SOMEONE WHO CAN'T AFFORD TO MAINTAIN THEIR BUILDING PROPERLY. I THINK THAT'S THE WORST OUTCOME IN THIS CASE, VERSUS HAVING A LITTLE MORE INTENSE USE ON A VERY SMALL TRACT OF LAND TAKING PLACE ENTIRELY INDOORS WITH ADEQUATE BUFFER ON ALL SIDES. AND I'LL BE QUIET NOW. SO HAVE YOU OFFICIALLY MADE YOUR MOTION? YES. MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 15 WITH THE CONDITION THAT THERE BE NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. [01:25:01] THANK YOU. SECOND. OKAY. HEARING A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? YES, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UH, AREA AND, UH, I PRETTY MUCH AGREE WITH, UM, THE ARGUMENTS, UH, THE COMMISSIONER, UM, SUMMERS HAS PROVIDED AND ALSO HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE INDUSTRIAL, UM, SHOPS IN THIS AREA. SO I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE, UM, APPROVING OR SUPPORTING THE APPROVAL FOR THIS MOTION. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON MY LEFT? COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS ON MY RIGHT. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. UM, WE DON'T USUALLY HAVE INDUSTRIAL CASES. IT, IT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO TAKE THEM REALLY SERIOUSLY. UM, IT'S DIFFERENT INDUSTRIAL'S, JUST DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN MIX. UM, I GUESS MY MAIN CONCERNS ARE WITH STAFF CONTINUING TO SAY THAT THERE'S MORE NOISE WITH THIS. UM, IT'S RESIDENTIAL CLOSE BY. UM, BUT, AND, AND I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO LET PLANS ASPIRE TO SOMETHING BETTER. UM, BUT, UH, BUT I'M MOSTLY CONVINCED BY YOUR ARGUMENT. AND, UM, AND THANKS TO MS. FRANCO, 'CAUSE THOSE WERE REALLY GOOD ARGUMENTS THAT YOU MADE TODAY TOO, AND MICHAEL, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T GRILL YOU AS MUCH TODAY, SO I THINK I WILL SUPPORT THIS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS, MR. GIBBONS? YES. UH, I APPRECIATE, UH, MS. FRANCO ON YOUR, UM, HELP. IT IS WITH THE MIDTOWN, UH, DISTRICT CENTER, IT, IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE DON'T HAVE THE MIDTOWN DISTRICT IN FRONT OF US. UM, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE CAN HAVE THOSE ADDED IN THERE ON NOTES HERE SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE ENTIRE PLAN. UH, PERHAPS I MISSED IT. IS IT THERE? I'M SORRY. THE GOALS ARE, WELL, I KNOW THE GOALS ARE, BUT I DON'T THINK THE MAP IS. UM, AND I'M A MAP BREEDER. UM, I, I THINK INDUSTRIAL IS, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN WE COME INTO INDUSTRIAL. I THINK WE WILL START TO DO AWAY WITH SO MANY INDUSTRIAL THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO COME BACK AND GET INDUSTRIAL. AND THIS IS VERY MUCH AN INDUSTRIAL, IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA AND WOULD SAY THAT IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE AFFECTED BY THE MIDTOWN. I APPRECIATE THE MIDTOWN, UH, DISTRICT AND THEIR EFFORTS. UM, AND LOOKING AT THAT MAP THAT SUMMER GREATHOUSE, UH, SHOWED US, I CAN SEE WHERE PERHAPS THERE'S A, UH, A LOT OF, UH, THERE THAT THEY WANNA MAKE SOME CHANGES TO RETAIL AND, UM, WE'LL PROBABLY GET THOSE DOWN THE PIKE IN THE FUTURE, BUT I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. AND COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE ZERO APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS WITH NO OUTDOOR STORAGE. [18. 20-2308 Consideration and Approval of the February 18, 2020 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes] ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. LAST ITEM OF THE DAY, THE MINUTES. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? UH, MS. JARON, I, I DIDN'T SEE IN THE MINUTES THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO HAD LEFT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS NECESSARY TO BE IN THE MINUTES. MAYBE I MISSED IT IN THE MINUTES. HE'S SAYING IT IS. HE'S GONNA LOOK FOR IT. PAGE 13. RIGHT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS OR, WELL, I GUESS THAT'S NOT A CORRECTION. ALRIGHT. HEARING NONE THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. UM, I HAVE A SPECIAL REPORT. DON'T, WHAT DID WE ASK FOR AT THE END? DIRECTOR DIRECTOR'S REPORT. THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE [01:30:01] ANYTHING ON THE DIRECTOR'S REPORT FOR TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, I GUESS WE ARE, ARE WE ADJOURNED? MOTION TO ADJOURN. ALL RIGHT. RIGHT. UM, WE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.