* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:01:05] GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO THE B SESSION OF OCTOBER THE FOURTH, 2017. COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SALANA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. COUNCIL MEMBER BROCKO PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER EZ WILL NOT BE ATTENDING. HE'S ATTENDING A FUNERAL TODAY. COUNCIL MEMBER, COURAGE. RESIDENT COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY WILL NOT BE HERE. HE IS ATTENDING THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE CONFERENCE IN AUSTIN, OR IN HOUSTON RATHER. AND OF COURSE, MAYOR NUREMBERG. MAYOR. MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR B SESSION TODAY. IT'S THE AIR QUALITY NON-ATTAINMENT DISCUSSION. AND, UH, CHERYL, GO AHEAD AND KICK US OFF. THANKS. THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD AFTERNOON. AND TODAY WE ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM BEFORE WE ADJOURN INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING A BRIEFING ON THE SAN ANTONIO AREA, AIR QUALITY ISSUES AND THE CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH WE ARE BEING CONSIDERED FOR NON-ATTAINMENT STATUS. UH, ON OCTOBER 1ST, THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY RELEASED MORE STRINGENT AIR QUALITY REQUIREMENTS. AND AS A RESULT, THE SAN ANTONIO, UH, REGION IS CURRENTLY AWAITING, UH, THE DESIGNATION ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY. ACTUALLY, WE'VE BEEN AWAITING A NON-ATTAINMENT DECISION FOR AT LEAST A DECADE, AND WE HAVE BEEN HOVERING ON THE THRESHOLD OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR MANY YEARS AND HAVE WORKED IN AN INFORMAL WAY TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY WITHIN THE REGION. AND YOU'LL HEAR FROM THE STAFF THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT MANY OF THE INITIATIVES THAT COUNCIL HAS PROPOSED THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BY THE ALAMO AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS. AND DIANE WRATH IS HERE THIS AFTERNOON FROM ACOG. UM, BUT WE'LL BE TALKING THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT HOW NON-ATTAINMENT WILL AFFECT SAN ANTONIO AS A A COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS OUR EFFORTS OVER THE PAST DECADE TO IMPROVE AIR QUALITY. UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR FUTURE EFFORTS IN TERMS OF COMMUNICATION RESEARCH, THE ADDITIONAL STUDIES WILL BE OUTLINED THIS AFTERNOON. AND I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE HERE TO HELP ADDRESS, UH, QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THIS AFTERNOON, UH, JEAN GREER, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE ALAMO AREA METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION IS HERE, IS JEAN HERE? SHE WAS TO BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON. I GUESS SHE'S NOT ARRIVED YET. OF COURSE, I INTRODUCED DIANE WRATH. AND THEN ROGER ARIAGA, THE DIRECTOR OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AT ACOG, IS ALSO HERE. HI, ROGER. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON. UH, DOUG MELNICK, OUR CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, IS GOING TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATION AND TALK ABOUT THE STATUS OF OUR AIR QUALITY IN SAN ANTONIO. AND DR. COLLEEN BRIDGER, OUR METRO HEALTH PUBLIC HEALTH DIRECTOR, IS HERE TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE FROM THE HEALTH PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. UH, AND THEN WE'LL BE ABLE TO TAKE, UH, QUESTIONS, UH, THIS AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS, MAYOR. SO NOW I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DOUG MELNICK, [1. A Briefing on the San Antonio area Air Quality/Non-Attainment status. [Roderick Sanchez, Assistant City Manager; Douglas Melnick, Chief Sustainability Officer]] HE'S OUR CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, AND HE'LL BE FOLLOWED BY DR. BRIDGER. AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS. DOUG. THANK YOU, CHERYL. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. COUNSEL, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BRIEF YOU ON, ON NON-ATTAINMENT. AS CHERYL HAD MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THIS ON A HOUR BY HOUR BASIS, UM, WAITING SOME SORT OF, UH, DETERMINATION FROM E P A. UH, WE WERE HOPING TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT THAT. BUT, UH, IN LIGHT OF THAT, UH, WE'D LIKE TO PROVIDE SOME ORIENTATION AS FAR AS, UM, WHAT [00:05:01] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REGARDING OZONE, A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY, UH, AND NEXT STEPS. UM, I, I THINK IT'S A VERY COMPLICATED AND IMPORTANT ISSUE, AND WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT YOU ALL ARE BRIEFED AS GOING FORWARD. WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME SIGNIFICANT, UH, POLICY DISCUSSION AS FAR AS HOW WE START TACKLING AIR QUALITY. BUT, UH, AS OF TODAY, WE ARE STILL THE, THE LARGEST CITY IN THE, THE COUNTRY THAT IS NOT, UM, DESIGNATED AS A NON-ATTAINMENT COMMUNITY. SO THE FIRST THING IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WHAT IS OZONE? THERE'S, THERE'S TWO TYPES OF OZONE. UH, YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL AWARE OF THIS, BUT, UH, THERE'S GOOD OZONE, WHICH IS UP IN THE ATMOSPHERE, WHICH, UH, WHICH, UM, FILTERS OUT ULTRAVIOLET RADIATION. AND THEN THERE'S BAD OZONE OR, OR GROUND LEVEL OZONE, UH, WHICH CAUSES, UH, PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, ISSUES AS WELL AS, UH, THAT'S WHAT'S REGULATED BY, UM, E P A UNDER THE CLEAN AIR ACT. UH, IT'S FORMED WHEN, UH, NOX NITROUS OXIDE AND VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS OR VOCS, UH, UH, COMBINE AND ARE EXPOSED TO, TO HEAT AND LIGHT. UH, THOSE EMISSIONS, UM, BASICALLY COME FROM INDUSTRIAL SOURCES. UM, IT COMES FROM ELECTRIC UTILITIES, MOTOR, MOTOR VEHICLE EXHAUST, GASOLINE VAPORS, CHEMICAL SOLVENTS. UM, THOSE ARE REALLY SORT OF THE PRIME SOURCES OF, OF NOX AND VOCS. ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE A PIE CHART OF OUR, JUST OUR LOCAL SOURCES, UM, OF, OF OZONE. YOU CAN SEE POINT SOURCES, UH, WHICH ARE, UH, POWER, OUR POWER PLANTS OR, UH, OTHER INDUSTRIAL SOURCES ARE THE, THE LARGEST PIECE OF, OF THE PIE, FOLLOWED BY, UH, ON-ROAD, UH, EMISSIONS FROM CARS AND TRUCKS. UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UM, THAT THE SHOWS OUR LOCAL SOURCES, HOWEVER, ACOG HAS DONE MODELING, UM, THAT, UH, PROJECTS THAT 68% PERCENT OF OUR OZONE IS COMING FROM, FROM TRANSPORT SOURCES OUTSIDE OUR, OUR REGION, INCLUDING UPWARDS OF 27%, UM, FROM FOREIGN SOURCES. SO, WHILE THERE'S POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT FROM TRANSPORT SOURCES, IT MAKES IT ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE FOCUS ON THOSE LOCAL SOURCES THAT WE CAN REALLY, UH, UH, IMPACT. AS WELL AS, UH, HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS OF, OF, OF TRANSPORT. UH, WE'LL BE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH ACOG AND BRINGING IN OTHER EXPERTS GOING FORWARD TO REALLY LOOK AT THE BEST AVAILABLE RESEARCH, NEW TRENDS AND RESEARCH TO REALLY FURTHER UNDERSTAND OUR, HOW OZONE FORMS, HOW IT CIRCULATES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, AND HOW IT SHOWS UP AT OUR REGULATORY MONITORS. SO WHERE DO OUR OZONE NUMBERS COME FROM? UH, THIS, UM, UH, UH, IMAGE SHOWS, UH, OUR, UM, THREE REGULATORY MONITORS. THEY'RE IN THE, UH, THE, THE ONES THAT'RE CIRCLED. UH, THESE ARE OPERATED BY T C E Q. AND, UH, THESE ARE WHERE OUR, UM, UH, UH, OUR SPECIFIC OZONE DESIGN VALUES COME FROM. UH, THEY'RE AT CAMP BULLIS, UH, SAN ANTONIO NORTHWEST AND CALVERS LAKE. UH, THERE ARE ALSO, UH, NON-REGULATORY OZONE MONITORS THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT, THAT AREN'T CIRCLED. UH, THESE ARE OPERATED, UM, UH, BY ACOG THROUGH, UH, C P S. THERE'S AN ARRANGEMENT BETWEEN C P S WHERE THEY'RE PROVIDING, UM, FUNDING SUPPORT TO KEEP THOSE, THOSE MONITORS, UM, UP AND RUNNING, AND THEY PROVIDE ADDITIONAL DATA USED FOR MODELING AND MONITORING PURPOSES. SO THIS IS A REALLY, UH, IMPORTANT SLIDE. SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE, I THINK WE, THERE'S SOME MISCONCEPTION PUBLICLY THAT OUR AIR QUALITY'S GETTING WORSE, UM, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GETTING BETTER. UH, THIS IS, UM, A, UH, OZONE TREND GRAPH THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED BY T C E Q THAT DATES BACK TO 1990. THE GRAY BARS ARE OUR MSAS POPULATION. THE RED LINE IS OUR OZONE DESIGN VALUE, UM, FROM OUR, OUR MONITOR REGULATORY MONITORS. AND THE SOLID LINE ON THE BOTTOM IS OUR 2015, UH, STANDARD OF 70 PARTS PER BILLION. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WHILE OUR POPULATION HAS INCREASED AT THE M SS A BY ABOUT 65% THAT ARE, UM, OZONE DESIGN VALUE HAS DECREASED BY 7%. UM, SO THERE'S A, A POSITIVE STORY THERE. THERE'S STILL A, A WAY THAT WE NEED TO KEEP GOING. UM, AND THE REAL IMPORTANT THING TO LOOK AT IS IF YOU SEE, UM, THAT LAST RED DOT ALL THE WAY UP ON THE RIGHT AT 2016, UH, THAT'S OUR CURRENT DESIGN VALUE BASED UPON 20 14, 20 15, AND 2016, UM, MONITOR VALUES OF 73 PARTS PER BILLION. SO WE'RE JUST ABOVE THAT. 70 PARTS PER BILLION, UH, NEW, UM, STANDARD. HOWEVER, IF WE WERE STILL UNDER THE OLD STANDARD, WE'D, WE'D BE IN COMPLIANCE. THE OLD STANDARD WAS AT 75 PARTS PER BILLION. WANTED TO SHOW YOU VERY BRIEFLY HOW WE COMPARE TO, TO OTHER CITIES. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, SAN ANTONIO, UM, OUR CURRENT DESIGN VALUES AT 73 PARTS PER BILLION, UM, JUST ABOVE AUSTIN. I THINK THE REAL TAKEAWAY WITH, FOR, FOR ME WITH THIS IS LOOKING AT WHERE THESE OTHER CITIES HAD HAVE COME. UM, IN PARTICULAR, DALLAS, UH, BACK IN 2016 WAS AT 96 PARTS PER BILLION. UH, HOUSTON, UH, AREA WAS AT 103 PARTS PER BILLION. AND THEY'VE BEEN IN NON-ATTAINMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT THERE IS PROGRESS THAT CAN BE MADE. SO I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY WANT TO DO IS, IS REALLY LOOK AT HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO, TO IMPACT SUCH CHANGE. UM, SOME THINGS [00:10:01] ARE GOING TO BE, UM, I DON'T THINK WE WANNA NECESSARILY FALL INTO A LOT OF THE REGULATORY REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY WERE, UH, UH, REQUIRED TO DO FROM BEING IN, UM, HIGHER LEVELS OF NON-ATTAINMENT. BUT WHAT CAN WE DO VOLUNTARILY TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MOVING OUR NUMBER IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO, TO GET BACK TO THAT 70, TO GET TO THAT 70 PART PER BILLION DESIGNATION OF, OF ATTAINMENT. SO, VERY BRIEFLY, JUST A BIT OF THE, THE TIMELINE OF HOW WE GOT TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY. UH, BACK IN OCTOBER, 2015, THE E P A, UH, RELEASED A, A NEW OZONE STANDARD, UM, OF 70 PARTS PER BILLION, AGAIN, LOWERING IT FROM 75 PARTS PER BILLION. AND WE WERE EXPECTED TO, UH, RECEIVE A, UH, SOME DESIGNATION STATUS, UH, THIS MONTH, UH, IN JUNE OF 2017, WE, UH, RECEIVED NOTIFICATION FROM E P A THAT THEY WERE, UH, DELAYING, UM, NOTIFICATIONS AND DECISION MAKING FOR A YEAR UNTIL OCTOBER, 2018. THEN IN AUGUST OF 2017, THEY RESCINDED THAT ONE YEAR DELAY. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE'RE EXPECTING FOR SOME, SOME DECISION THIS MONTH. BUT, UH, LAST MONTH, MONTH, SEPTEMBER, 2017, GOVERNOR ABBOTT SENT A LETTER TO, UH, UH, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR AT E P A, UM, PRUITT, REQUESTING THAT, UM, SAN ANTONIO BE CONSIDERED FOR AN UNCLASSIFY, UNCLASSIFIABLE OR ATTAINMENT DESIGNATION. AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. HIS REQUEST WAS BASED UPON THE FACT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY, UM, WITH OUR, UM, OZONE NUMBERS BASED UPON TRANSPORT. UM, ALSO, UM, BASED UPON JUST THE GENERAL LACK OF, OF DATA FOR THE, FROM THE REGIONAL LEVEL, OUR REGULATORY MONITORS ARE JUST WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY, NOTHING BEYOND. AND THE OTHER, UM, POINT THAT HE HAD MADE IN HIS LETTER TO, UM, TO THE E P A WAS JUST THE CONCERN FOR IMPACTING THE MILITARY MISSION OF GOING INTO, INTO NON-ATTAINMENT. SO WE'RE WAITING TO SEE IF THAT'S GONNA FACTOR INTO THE, THE DECISION FROM E P A. AND SO WE'RE STILL WAITING, UH, ON BATED BREATH FOR, UH, A POTENTIAL DESIGNATION AND ANY DESIGNATION WOULD BECOME EFFECTIVE FEBRUARY OF, OF NEXT YEAR. SO WHAT CAN E P A DO? I THINK THAT'S THE BIG QUESTION. UH, AND THERE'S THREE POSSIBLE OUTCOMES. UH, THE FIRST IS E P A CAN, UM, ISSUE A, UM, DESIGNATION OF ATTAINMENT, UH, THAT BASED UPON, UH, EXTRAORDINARY SOURCES OR OTHER DATA THAT WE DO MEET THE, THE STANDARD, UH, THEY COULD COME BACK AND, UH, DESIGNATE US AS UNCLASSIFIABLE, WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH DATA, UH, TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AND WORKING WITH, UM, A T C E Q POSTPONE ANY DECISION FOR UPWARDS OF YEAR WHILE THEY GATHER THAT DATA TO DETERMINE IF WE ARE ATTAINMENTS OR NON-ATTAINMENT. THE THIRD OPTION IS AN ACTUAL, UH, NON-ATTAINMENT DESIGNATION. AND THERE ARE FIVE, UH, CLASSIFICATIONS FROM MARGINAL TO EXTREME. UH, MARGINAL IS THE LOWEST LEVEL OF, UH, DESIGNATION. EXTREME IS, UH, THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST REQUIREMENTS BASED UPON OUR OZO LEVEL OZONE LEVELS. WE BELIEVE THAT IF E P A DECLARED US, UH, IN NON ATTAINMENT, IT WOULD BE AT THE MARGINAL CLASSIFICATION. AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE, THERE'S THREE ITEMS THAT COME INTO PLAY. UH, THESE ARE, UM, THERE'S NOTHING DIRECTLY, UH, IMPACTING, UM, THE CITY THAT WE NEED TO COME OUT OF THE GATE TO DO. IN TERMS OF ADDITIONAL REGULATION, I THINK WE NEED TO FACILITATE, UM, AND IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN, UM, UH, IMPROVE OUR AIR QUALITY. BUT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE MARGINAL DESIGNATION, THERE IS NOTHING SPECIFICALLY FOR, FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, YOU CAN SEE IT'S, UH, TRANSPORTATION CONFORMITY, UH, ADMISSIONS INVENTORY AND ADMISSION STATEMENTS, AND NEW SOURCE REVIEW. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT THOSE IN THE NEXT FEW SLIDES. UM, ONCE WE RECEIVE THAT DESIGNATION, WE HAVE THREE YEARS, UH, TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, UH, AND, AND INTO AN ATTAINMENT. IF WE DO NOT MEET, UH, ATTAINMENT WITHIN THOSE THREE, THREE YEARS, WE AUTOMATICALLY GET BUMPED UP TO MODERATE. AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, MODERATES WHEN YOU START GETTING INTO THINGS SUCH AS, UM, INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAMS. AND SO WE REALLY WANNA AVOID, UM, THAT LEVEL OF, OF REGULATION BY TAKING ACTION VERY AGGRESSIVELY, UM, UH, OVER THE NEXT, UM, IMMEDIATELY AND OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. SO, I'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE THREE, UH, POTENTIAL REQUIRE, THE THREE REQUIRE REQUIREMENTS OF A POTENTIAL MARGINAL, UH, NON-ATTAINMENT DESIGNATION. THE FIRST IS TRANSPORTATION CONFORMITY. UM, BASICALLY IT'S A PROCESS THAT'S ADMINISTERED BY THE, THE M P O, AND IT REQUIRES THAT TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS IN THE DESIGNATED AREA, UM, DO NOT NEGATIVE, NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR AIR QUALITY. UH, THE M P O HAS BEEN, UH, ALREADY COMPILING TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, UH, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UM, ACROSS THE REGION. AND THEY INCLUDE OUR STREET, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, AS WELL AS SELECT, UH, 2017 BOND PROJECTS. SO IT DOES, IT HAVE, IT DOES HAVE AN IMPLICATION FOR, FOR SAN ANTONIO. UH, THE M P O STAFF WILL THEN RUN, UM, UH, TRAVEL DE TRAVEL DEMANDS, UM, MODELS FOR 20 15, 20 25, 20 35, AND 2045, REALLY LOOKING AT POPULATION GROWTH AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR, UM, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY AND CONGESTION. THEY WILL THEN SUBMIT THOSE RESULTS TO THE TEXAS TRANSPORTATION INSTITUTE TO RUN EMISSION MODELS TO DETERMINE ACTUAL AIR QUALITY IMPACT. [00:15:01] UH, THE M P O THEN SUBMITS THOSE FINAL RESULTS BY OCTOBER, 2018 TO THE, UH, FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION AGENCY AND THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION FOR APPROVAL. UH, THE KEY, AND FROM, FROM LISTENING TO, UM, UH, CONVERSATIONS AT THE M P O, THEY WANNA SUBMIT A PACKAGE THAT, THAT MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS, UM, RIGHT UP FRONT. BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL, UM, IMPACT FOR, FOR THE CITY IN TERMS OF, UH, TIME IMPACT ON, UH, APPROVAL, UH, AND CONSTRUCTION OF OUR, OUR ROAD PROJECTS, AS WELL AS THE POTENTIAL NEED FOR MODIFYING PROJECTS IF ALL THE PROJECTS AS A WHOLE DON'T, UM, MEET THE AIR QUALITY REQUIREMENTS. THE SECOND, UH, ITEM IS ADMINISTERED BY, UH, T C E Q, UH, IT'S EMISSIONS INVENTORIES AND STATEMENTS. UH, T C E Q WILL CONDUCT EMISSIONS INVENTORY FOR DESIGNATED AREAS WHERE, WHETHER IT'S BEXAR COUNTY OR MULTIPLE COUNTIES, TO DETERMINE THE QUANTITY AND SOURCES OF EMISSIONS. UH, T C Q T C E Q WILL ALSO REQUIRE THAT LARGE EMITTERS OF OVER 200, OF OVER 100 TOTAL TONS PER YEAR OF EITHER, UH, NITROUS OXIDES OR VOCS TO PROVIDE DETAILED STATEMENTS OF THEIR EMISSIONS. I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THEY ALREADY DO THAT AS A PART OF THE AIR QUALITY PERMITTING PROCESS. SO IT ISN'T A, A, A NEW, UM, UH, UH, UH, BURDEN ON THESE LARGE, UH, EMITTERS. UM, THESE, UM, EMISSION STATEMENTS DO NOT IMPACT SMALL BUSINESSES. UH, IT'S, AGAIN, IT'S FOR THE LARGE EMITTERS. HOWEVER, UH, SMALL EMITTERS WILL STILL NEED TO COMPLY WITH, UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S, UH, BUSINESS, UM, REGISTRATION PROGRAM, WHEREBY THEY, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE, UH, CATALOGING, CATALOGING ALL THE SMALL BUSINESSES AND, AND LARGE BUSINESSES THAT ARE PRODUCING ANY SORT OF AIR QUALITY EMISSIONS. SO WE KNOW WHO'S OUT THERE AND CAN START WORKING WITH WORKING WITH THEM TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT MAKING OUR AIR QUALITY WORSE. AND THEN THE THIRD THING THAT COMES INTO, UH, INTO PLAY, WHICH IS I THINK PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IS, UH, SOMETHING CALLED NEW SOURCE REVIEW, WHICH, UH, T C E Q ADMINISTERS, UM, IT APPLIES AGAIN TO THOSE LARGE, UM, MAJOR SOURCES OF A A HUNDRED, UH, TOTAL TONS PER YEAR. AND IT'S REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT ANY, UH, NEW, UM, UH, INDUSTRY THAT LOCATES TO SAN ANTONIO OR ANY EXISTING INDUSTRY THAT EXPANDS, DOESN'T MAKE AIR QUALITY WORSE. SO THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED, UH, TO, UM, INSTALL SOMETHING CALLED THE LOWEST ACHIEVABLE EMISSION RATE TECHNOLOGY, WHICH IS JUST A, A TECHNOLOGY THAT LIMITS THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTION, UH, THAT THEY WOULD BE EMITTING THAT COMES AT A COST, AS WELL AS IF THEY CAN'T MITIGATE THROUGH, UH, INTERNAL OPERATIONS, THEY WOULD HAVE THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY, UM, TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE EMISSIONS, UH, REDUCTION, UM, CREDITS FROM THE, FROM THE OPEN MARKET. THE KEY WITH THESE TWO ITEMS, THOUGH, IS THERE'S A COST TO, UM, TO BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY, UH, IN SAN ANTONIO THAT COULD POTENTIALLY, UM, PUSH, UM, UH, UM, BUSINESS AWAY. AND SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN, UH, AGAIN, GET BACK INTO ATTAINMENT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO, TO, UM, TO AVOID THESE ECONOMIC IMPACTS. AND SO, WHAT ARE THESE ECONOMIC IMPACTS? UH, IN, IN MARCH, 2017, ACOG RELEASED A, A STUDY CALLED, UH, COST OF NON-ATTAINMENT FOR THE ALAMO REGION. UH, IT WAS CONDUCTED BY A TEAM LED BY DR. STEVE NIVEN. AND IT REALLY LOOKED AT THE, FOR FORESEEABLE, UM, UH, SCENARIOS, UH, FOR SAN ANTONIO'S NON-ATTAINMENT DESIGNATION, AND REALLY FOCUSED ON, UM, BOTH MARGINAL AND, AND MODERATE. BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT A MARGINAL DESIGNATION MEANS FOR, UM, THE SAN ANTONIO M S A, THEY, UH, PROJECTED THAT IT COULD RUN ANYWHERE FROM 3.2 BILLION TO 27 POINT, UH, $5 BILLION. UM, AND SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS FOR THAT ARE LOSS OF MANUFACTURING, WHETHER THAT'S EXPANSION OR RELOCATION, UH, COST FOR ADDITIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL PERMITTING FOR INDUSTRIES, OR COST OF INDUSTRY PROJECT DELAYS AMONGST OTHERS. SO YOU CAN SEE THIS IS A REALLY BIG NUMBER, UM, AND IT REALLY, UH, HIGHLIGHTS THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF, UM, AIR QUALITY, UH, IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMIC IMPACT. SO, AS CHERYL HAD MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN DOING, MENTIONED WE'VE BEEN DOING A LOT OVER THE YEARS. UM, AND THIS IS JUST A, JUST A, SOME OF THEM, UM, THERE, THERE'S A LOT MORE, AND HONESTLY COULDN'T FIT THEM ON, ON THE, UM, ON THE PAGE. BUT REALLY JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, ENERGY AND SOLAR, OUR, OUR ENERGY EFFICIENCY FUND HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL FOR REDUCING OUR ENERGY CONSUMPTION IN CITY FACILITIES. WE WERE THE FIRST CITY IN TEXAS TO ADOPT THE 2015, UM, INTERNATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE, WHICH IMPROVED, UH, REQUIRED, UH, NEW ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDARDS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION. UM, WE CONTINUE TO EXPAND BOTH FOR, FOR, FOR COSA AS WELL AS WORKING WITH C P S IN THE COMMUNITY. OUR, OUR SOLAR PORTFOLIO, IN TERMS OF ANTI IDLING COUNCIL ADOPTED IN, IN 2016, AND IDLING ORDINANCE, UH, PROHIBITING, UH, UNNECESSARY IDLING FOR HEAVY VEHICLES GREATER THAN 14,000, UH, TONS, TONS POUNDS, POUNDS, . AND, UM, CHERYL HAD, UM, THIS PAST YEAR ALSO AUTHORIZED AN ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE, UM, AGAIN, RESTRICTING, UH, UNNECESSARY IDLING FOR CITY EMPLOYEES, CONTINUE TO EXPAND BIKE SAFETY AND [00:20:01] EDUCATION, AS WELL AS PUTTING OUT NEW, UM, BIKE INFRASTRUCTURE AND PEDESTRIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. WE PROVIDE VIA BUS PASSES FOR CITY EMPLOYEES. UM, COUNCIL IN 2016, UH, BANS COAL TAR SEALANTS, WHICH IS A, WE ARE THE LARGEST CITY IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE SO, UM, WHICH REDUCES THE, UH, AMOUNT OF VOCS AS, AS WE MENTIONED, THAT'S A, UH, ONE OF THE COMPONENTS OF OZONE. SO WE'RE REDUCING THAT, THAT, THAT PART OF, UH, OZONE FORMATION. OUR TREE ORDINANCE HAS BEEN, UM, WELL THOUGHT FOR AND, AND BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN PRESERVING TREE CANOPY, WHICH HAS AIR QUALITY BENEFITS. UH, AGAIN, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENTS, UH, UH, PROGRAM FOR REGISTERING, UM, BUSINESSES TO PROVIDE SUPPORT AND ASSISTANCE. SO THEY CONTINUE TO IMPROVE, UH, THE, THE, UM, THEIR AIR QUALITY PROGRAM. AND THEN, AND FINALLY, THE, THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, WHICH, UM, NOT ONLY REDUCES ENERGY, UH, CONSUMPTION, BUT ALSO HELPS REDUCE, UM, UH, SURFACE TEMPERATURES OF THESE ROOFS, WHICH REDUCES URBAN HEAT ISLAND, WHICH, AGAIN, HEAT IS A COMPONENT OF OZONE FORMATION. SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS. UM, THE BIG THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PAST YEAR, UH, THANKS TO COUNCIL FOR PROVIDING FUNDING FOR IT, IS REALLY IN THE, THE, THE LINE OF RAISING AWARENESS. I, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ARE AWARE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF AIR QUALITY, UM, NOT JUST THE ECONOMIC, UM, IMPACTS OF, OF, OF AIR QUALITY AND A NON-ATTAINMENT DESIGNATION, BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC HEALTH IMPACTS. UH, SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROGRAM FOR THE PAST YEAR. IT'S FOCUSED ON STAKEHOLDER ROUND TABLES, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA, ONE-ON-ONE NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH, UM, MESSAGING TO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS BUSINESSES VIA TELEVISION, RADIO, PRINT, SOCIAL MEDIA. UH, THIS FRIDAY, WE'RE HAVING A, UM, A, UH, A ROUND TABLE WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY SPONSORED BY THE, THE SAN ANTONIO BUSINESS JOURNAL. AND THEY'VE GRACIOUSLY OFFERED TO PROVIDE A TABLE TO ANY COUNCIL MEMBERS OR STAFF WHO'D LIKE TO, TO ATTEND, UM, TO BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. UM, WE REALLY WANT PEOPLE TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND, AND MAKE COMMITMENTS TO IMPROVING AIR QUALITY. UM, THE CAMPAIGN TO DATE HAS, UH, YIELDED OVER 2.3 MILLION IMPRESSIONS TO DATE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT, BUT I THINK WE'RE NOT GONNA FOOL OURSELVES THAT, UM, WE'RE ANYWHERE NEAR BEING WHERE WE NEED TO BE WITH MAKING, UM, THE COMMUNITY AWARE OF AIR QUALITY. UM, I'D LIKE NOW TO PASS OVER TO, TO DR. BRIDGER, JUST TO TOUCH VERY BRIEFLY ON THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OZONE AND PUBLIC HEALTH. AND THEN I'LL, I, I'LL COME BACK AND JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS ARE. GOOD AFTERNOON. SO IF YOU'LL THINK OF ME A LITTLE BIT LIKE THE TRAILER TO THE MOVIE, YOU'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE. UM, I HAVE TWO SLIDES ON THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF OZONE. I WILL BE BACK ON NOVEMBER 29TH TO DO A MORE COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW OF THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF AIR QUALITY. SO, UM, THIS IS JUST A SMALL PIECE, AND I'M EXCITED TO COME BACK AND GO IN MORE DETAIL. UM, ALL RIGHT. SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE E P A DETERMINES, THE REASON WE CARE ABOUT OZONE IS BECAUSE IT'S BAD FOR THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH. IT'S DANGEROUS TO BREATHE HIGH LEVELS OF OZONE. UM, AND OZONES PRIMARY HARM TO THE BODY IS THROUGH THE RESPIRATORY SYSTEM. AND THE ANALOGY I LIKE TO USE IS THAT, UM, BREATHING OZONE FOR YOUR BODY IS A LITTLE BIT LIKE WHEN YOU GET A SUNBURN. SO, UM, OZONES EFFECT ON THE LUNGS ARE LIKE THE SUNBURNS EFFECT ON SKIN. AND ESPECIALLY OVER TIME, YOU CAN SEE THOSE CUMULATIVE EFFECTS. SO, UM, WE KNOW THAT OZONE EFFECTS EVERYBODY, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT IT IS, UM, MOSTLY HARMFUL TO CHILDREN WHOSE LUNGS ARE STILL DEVELOPING, AND TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE ASTHMA AND OTHER RESPIRATORY AILMENTS. UH, AND SO THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT WE REALLY WANNA WORK TO PROTECT FROM, UM, EXPOSURE TO OZONE. THE PYRAMID THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE HERE SHOWS THE HEALTH EFFECTS OF OZONE EXPOSURE BY MOST COMMON UP TO LEAST COMMON. SO THE MOST COMMON EFFECTS THAT WE SEE FROM OZONE EXPOSURE ON A, ON THAT LOWER LEVEL, UM, INFLAMMATION OF THE LUNGS, UH, MORE UPPER RESPIRATORY OR EVEN LOWER RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS AND, UM, CARDIAC EFFECTS. AND THEN AS THE OZONE INCREASES, AS THE EXPOSURE OF OZONE INCREASES, THEN YOU CAN MOVE UP THAT PYRAMID, UM, PRETTY QUICKLY. AND JUST LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, A HIGHER NUMBER OF SUNBURNS, YOU'RE AT HIGHER RISK FOR SKIN CANCER, UM, THE MORE EXPOSURE THAT A PERSON HAS TO OZONE, THE MORE LIKELY THEY ARE TO PROGRESS UP THIS PYRAMID. IT. SO THE NEXT SLIDE THAT I WANNA TALK ABOUT VERY BRIEFLY IS THE FACT THAT, UM, METRO HEALTH WITH THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT DID COMMISSION A STUDY, UM, TO DO SOME MODELING, TO TRY TO PREDICT THE EFFECTS OF INCREASING OZONE ON [00:25:01] VARIOUS HEALTH OUTCOMES, UH, HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND, UM, THE, THE STUDY, THE, THE PRIMARY FINDING OF THE STUDY IS THAT IF YOU INCREASE OZONE BY A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT, 2.2%, YOU CAN EXPECT TO SEE, UM, 19 ADDITIONAL DEATHS EACH YEAR IN THE CITY. UM, AND LIKEWISE, IF YOU CAN DECREASE THE OZONE BY 2.8%, YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE 24 AVOIDED DEATHS. UM, SO AGAIN, THESE ARE MODELS, THESE ARE STATISTICAL, UM, YOU KNOW, PREDICTIONS. BUT I DO THINK IT'S PRETTY POWERFUL TO THINK ABOUT SUCH A SMALL CHANGE IN YOUR OZONE LEVEL, REALLY CAN SAVE LIVES. AND SO THAT IS, UM, THE, THE PRIMARY MESSAGE THAT I WANNA BRING IS, UM, I KNOW IT CAN SOMETIMES FEEL OVERWHELMING, AND LIKE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOU CAN DO, BUT A VERY SMALL CHANGE, UM, CAN MAKE A BIG IMPACT ON THE PUBLIC'S HEALTH. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO DOUG. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DR. BRIDGER. AND SO, FINALLY, SOME AIR QUALITY RECOMMENDATIONS GOING FORWARD. UM, AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF EPAS DECISION, UH, AND WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTEN THE, UM, DIRECTION FROM, FROM COUNSEL BEFORE, AND I, I BELIEVE IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME. WE'RE STILL GONNA MOVE FORWARD, UH, AS AGGRESSIVELY AS AS POSSIBLE, UM, UH, TO, TO IMPROVE OUR AIR QUALITY. UM, WE'RE GOING TO, THERE, THERE WAS FUNDING IN, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET TO CONTINUE THE, UH, THE BRIEF TODAY SA TOMORROW CAMPAIGN. SO CONTINUING TO TARGET, UH, WORKING WITH, UM, RESIDENTS TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT AND REALLY WORKING ON, ON INDUSTRY AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY TO GET THEM TO, TO UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THIS IS A REAL ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO, UM, AFFECT, UM, NOT JUST PUBLIC HEALTH, BUT ALSO THEIR BOTTOM LINE. UM, SO I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THE PEDAL ON, ON THIS, UH, COMMUNICATION AND EDUCATION CAMPAIGN. THERE WAS ALSO FUNDING, UH, IN THE BUDGET FOR, UH, AN OZONE FORMATION STUDY THAT, UH, METRO HEALTH IS GOING TO BE, UH, OVERSEEING. THINK WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. UM, UH, THEY'LL BE WORKING WITH A, A, A PROFESSOR, IS HE OUT OF HOUSTON? UM, DR. JEFFRIES ACTUALLY OUT NORTH CAROLINA, OUTTA NORTH CAROLINA. NOT A LOT OF WORK IN HOUSTON. HE'S DONE A LOT OF WORK IN HOUSTON, REALLY LOOKING AT, UM, UM, A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO EVALUATING WHERE OZONE FORMS, HOW IT FORMS, AND HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN HOUSTON IN TERMS OF LOWERING THEIR, THEIR NUMBERS. UH, WE ALSO HAVE FOUND OUT TODAY THAT IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A, AN APPROACH THAT'S, UM, T C E Q IS ALSO STARTING TO LOOK AT, IN ADDITION TO ACOG'S WORK WITH PHOTOCHEMICAL MA MODELING, USING THIS NEW APPROACH TO, UM, SUPPLEMENT THAT. SO I THINK WE WANNA GET AS MUCH, UM, OF, UH, UH, EX UH, EXPERTISE AS WE POSSIBLY GET INTO THE, THE MIX TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING, UH, INFORMED DECISIONS. UM, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S GONNA CONTINUE ACTIVELY WORKING ON THEIR REGISTRATION PROGRAM. UH, WE'LL BE LOOKING AT, UM, SEVERAL ORDINANCES AND POLICIES AND EVALUATE THEIR POTENTIAL FOR IMPLEMENTATION SUCH AS, UH, COMMUTER BENEFITS, UM, SUCH AS, UM, OTHER POLICIES AND PROGRAMS, UH, TO PROMOTE NON-MOTORIZED TRAVEL. AND ALSO LOOKING AT ENERGY POLICIES BOTH INTERNALLY, UH, AS WELL AS EXTERNALLY. WE'RE ALSO EXCITED, UH, WITH PARTNERING WITH, WITH C P S, AGAIN, IN ADDITION TO THE WORK THEY'RE PROVIDING, UH, THE FUNDING THAT THEY'RE PROVIDING TO U T S A AND THE CLIMATE PLAN. UM, WHICH, UM, WE'RE GONNA BE REALLY PUSHING HARD OVER THE NEXT, UH, MONTH OR SO TO, TO KICKING OFF. UM, YOU KNOW, THE CLIMATE PLAN WILL COME UP WITH STRATEGIES THAT ARE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF IMPLICATIONS FOR AIR QUALITY. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OVERLAP BETWEEN REDUCING, UM, UH, OZONE AND REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. BUT, UH, WE'LL ALSO BE PARTNERING WITH THEM ON, UM, AND THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION ON TESTING SOME NEW, UM, SMART TECHNOLOGY, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD BASED, UM, AIR QUALITY MONITORS WITH STREETLIGHTS, AND TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF THOSE ARE DEPLOYED IN PARTICULAR AREAS, WHAT CAN WE LEARN FROM THAT, THAT MORE NEIGHBORHOOD BASED DATA. AND WE'RE ALSO, UM, REALLY LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, UM, UH, PILOTS THAT ARE OCCURRING AROUND THE OCCURRING AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT MIGHT BE WORTH EXPLORING HERE. ONE OF, ONE OF THE ONES THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, LOOKING AT IS, IT'S BEING PILOTED IN LA IT'S A, A COOL PAVEMENT PROGRAM. AGAIN, HOW DO WE REDUCE SURFACE TEMPERATURES, UM, TO, UM, UH, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF, OF HEAT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR OZONE TO FORM. UH, WE'LL ALSO, UH, BE WORKING WITH, UH, C P S TO, UH, DEVELOP A, A PLAN GOING FORWARD, UH, TO CONDUCT A STUDY TO EVALUATE, UM, THE POTENTIAL FOR, UH, ELECTRIFYING THE CITY FLEET, UM, COST BENEFIT, UH, AGAIN, HOW DO WE IMPROVE THE EFFICIENCY OF OUR FLEET AND FLEET, AND REDUCING ENERGY CONSUMPTION, WHICH THEREBY HAS, UH, AIR QUALITY BENEFITS, AS WELL AS WHAT DOES A, UH, A BROADER CITYWIDE, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLE FAST CHARGING, UM, UH, NETWORK LOOK LOOK LIKE. UM, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT. AND THEN FINALLY, UM, WE'RE, UM, HAPPY THAT THERE WAS, UH, SOME FUNDING, $125,000 PLACED IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, UM, BEING MATCHED, UH, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR BY BEARER COUNTY, UM, TO WORK WITH, WITH, UH, [00:30:01] ACOG ON DOING ADDITIONAL, UM, MODELING AND ANALYSIS, UM, AROUND, AGAIN, UH, OZONE FORMATION, UM, DISTRIBUTION, AS WELL AS TESTING DIFFERENT, UM, UH, CONTROL CONTROL STRATEGIES TO FIND THOSE THAT ARE GONNA BE THE MOST, UH, IMPACTFUL FOR REDUCING OUR AIR QUALITY, REDUCING, UH, AIR QUALITY IMPACTS. WITH THAT, UM, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS AS WELL AS, UH, DR. BRIDGER. GREAT. THANK YOU, DOUG. UM, JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS. UM, THESE ARE LOOSELY TIED TO THE AIR QUALITY, UH, DISCUSSION, BUT YOU KNOW, PRETTY MUCH IN THE SAME BALLPARK. UM, WHERE ARE WE WITH, UM, WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS, UH, LAST YEAR ABOUT THE COMMUTER BENEFITS PROGRAM. WHERE, WHERE ARE WE THAT WITH, WITH THAT PROGRAM? SO WE HAD, UM, WE HAD BEEN, UH, WE PRESENTED SOME OPTIONS, UH, TO COUNCIL. UM, WE HAD ALSO BEGUN, UH, DISCUSSING, UH, THROUGH THE CHAMBERS TO BEGIN SEEING WHAT, UM, WHERE THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY WAS ON IT. UH, I THINK WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PRIORITIES THAT BEGAN, UM, COMING UP, IT, IT, UH, IT FELL A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN, BUT I THINK WE'RE PREPARED TO, TO BASICALLY PICK IT UP. UM, AGAIN, AT COUNCIL'S DIS DISCRETION, I THINK ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WAS CAPACITY TO RUN A FULL, YOU KNOW, A COMMUTER BENEFIT PROGRAM, UM, RESOURCE WISE. OKAY. MEAN, I REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA BE AN EASY, UM, AN EASY LIFT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LARGER EMPLOYERS, NOT OUR OWN. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH WORTHY OF DISCUSSION. UM, YOU KNOW, TO NEXT WEEK WE'RE HAVING THE AIR QUALITY SUMMIT, THAT THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL POINT OF CONVERSATION JUST TO, AGAIN, TEST THE WATERS. BUT I WOULDN'T WANT TO DRAG OUR FEET TOO MUCH BECAUSE REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE DESIGNATION IS COMING OUT, UM, WHENEVER IT COMES OUT, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MAKE PROGRESS ON THAT. SO, UM, AT ONE POINT, UH, WE HAD BEEN IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY, UH, AFTER OUR REGIONAL MEETINGS WITH ACOG AND, UM, THE CLEAN AIR, UH, COALITION IN AUSTIN, IN AUSTIN, ABOUT THEIR, UH, INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. DID WE EVER GET A SENSE FROM, UH, FROM THE COUNTY, OR WERE THERE ANY RESPONSES, UH, WILLINGNESS TO TRY SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I THINK WE DIDN'T HAVE, UM, WE NEVER GOT TO THE POINT, I THINK WHERE THERE WAS A SOLID COMMITMENT TO MOVE, TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. UM, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, UH, CIRCLE BACK WITH, WITH RENEE OVER AT, UM, THE COUNTY TO SEE IF THEY'D LIKE TO, TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS. I THINK, THINK WE HAD SPOKEN WITH SOME, UM, SOME OTHER EXPERTS IN THE FIELD WERE, THAT WERE HESITANT ABOUT RECOMMENDING THE BENEFITS OF AN INSPECTION AND MAINTENANCE PROGRAM BASED UPON THE FACT THAT, UM, FUEL EFFICIENCY STANDARDS HAVE GOTTEN SO RIGHT. UM, UM, SO MUCH BETTER. AND SO LOOKING AT THE COST BENEFIT OF A PROGRAM, BUT I THINK AS WE GO FORWARD, WE REALLY NEED TO, TO TAKE ANOTHER, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. OKAY, GREAT. AND, AND ALSO, NOT, NOT ENTIRELY DIRECTLY RELATED, BUT CERTAINLY HAS BENEFITS THERE. UM, I KNOW THE PACE CONVERSATIONS ARE PICKING UP AGAIN. UM, HOW DO WE GET THAT BALL ROLLING? SO, UM, FOR THOSE THAT, SO PACE, UH, STANDS FOR PROPERTY ASSESS CLEAN EN ENERGY, UM, IT'S A, UH, UH, A PROGRAM THAT'S AUTHORIZED BY, BY THE STATE, UH, LEGISLATURE. IT ALLOWS FOR, UM, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, AND THAT'S, UH, COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL OR MULTIFAMILY, UH, DOES NOT INCLUDE, UM, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO, UH, UNDERTAKE DEFERRED MAINTENANCE PROJECTS IN WATER AND ENERGY EFFICIENCY. UH, AND, UM, USING, UM, PRIVATE DOLLARS FROM A BANK, UH, BORROW THAT MONEY, UH, UH, UNDERTAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND BASICALLY FINANCE THE PAYBACK OF THAT LOAN THROUGH MONTHLY ENERGY OR WATER SAVINGS. UM, THE, IT'S BEEN, UM, UH, AUTHORIZED IN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, KNOW, UPWARDS OF SEVEN OR EIGHT COUNTIES, UH, IN, UM, IN TEXAS, UH, DALLAS AND HOUSTON AS WELL. UM, SOME REALLY LARGE PROJECTS HAVE BEEN, UM, UM, BEEN APPROVED. I THINK THE, THE BENEFIT IS, UM, WHEN WE START GETTING INTO DISCUSSIONS WITH PACE, UH, IT'S NOT ALWAYS COST EFFECTIVE FOR A BUSINESS TO PUT THEIR OWN MONEY UP FRONT TO UNDERTAKE THESE IMPROVEMENTS IF THEY MAY NOT OWE THE OWN THE PROJECT LONG TERM. 'CAUSE THE PAYBACK FOR SOME HVAC IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE 20, 30 YEARS. SO IT'S A REALLY STRONG, UM, MECHANISM. UM, I THINK THE PREFERRED CHOICE AS FAR AS IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM IS AT THE COUNTY LEVEL, UM, BECAUSE IT COVERS MUCH BROADER, UM, UH, BROADER SCOPE. UM, THE, UM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF, UM, KEEPING PACE IN TEXAS AND THE, UH, TEXAS PACE AUTHORITY, UH, CHARLENE HEIDDEGER HAS BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS [00:35:01] WITH THE COUNTY. SO I THINK WE'RE HOPEFULLY GETTING CLOSE TO, TO SEEING SOME MOVEMENT, BUT IT'S A REALLY GOOD TOOL WHEN WE START LOOKING AT AIR QUALITY. UM, BECAUSE, UH, IF WE, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE IN THE INDUSTRIAL SECTOR, UM, AND IF THERE CAN BE A TOOL THAT'S, UM, UM, THAT'S GONNA BE USED, UH, TO IMPROVE THOSE FACILITIES, IT'LL IMPROVE OUR AIR QUALITY. OKAY, GOOD. WELL, I'M, I'M VERY INTERESTED AS, AS WE HAVE IN FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW, ON, ON SEEING HOW WE CAN MOVE THAT FORWARD. SO IF THERE'S ANY KIND OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE, UM, UH, WITH THEM, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. YES, SIR. UH, LAST THING I'LL ASK IS, UM, WELL, WITH THE COUNCIL, UM, DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT FOR, UM, PASSING THE RESOLUTION ON ITS FIRST DAY ABOUT THE CLIMATE AGREEMENT IN PARIS. AND IT'S A RECOGNITION, NOT JUST THAT, UH, DEALING, UH, WITH PREPAREDNESS, ISSUES WITH AIR QUALITY ISSUES, WITH CLIMATE ISSUES HERE LOCALLY IMPACTS POSITIVELY OUR COMMUNITY, OUR ECONOMY, OUR HEALTH, UM, HERE LOCALLY. BUT ALSO IT'S A RECOGNITION THAT WE ARE CITIZENS OF THE WORLD AS WELL. AND WE, WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY OF ONE ANOTHER. UM, JUST HAD A MEETING WITH THE CONS GENERAL OF IRELAND, AND HE BROUGHT THAT UP THAT HE WAS VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THIS COUNCIL, UH, FOR DOING THAT. UH, MEANWHILE, THERE, THERE MAY NOT BE OTHER FEDERAL BACKSTOPS TO GIVE US ADDITIONAL REASONS WHY WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ONE ANOTHER REGARDLESS OF THAT. MY QUESTION IS, IN, IN LINE WITH THAT AGREEMENT AND THE, AND THE GOALS WE HAVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY, HOW CLOSE ARE WE AND WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THE CITY GOVERNMENT CARBON NEUTRAL? SURE. SO, I, WHAT I'LL, WHAT, WHAT CITIES HAVE DONE, UM, ALONG THAT LINE IS REALLY GONE TOWARDS PURCHASING GREEN POWER. UH, AND IF YOU GO TO, UH, THERE'S AN E P A PROGRAM CALLED CLEAN POWER COMMUNITY, UM, CLEAN POWER PARTNERSHIP, AND IT SHOWS THE, UM, UH, CORPORATIONS, COMMUNITIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS THAT ARE COMMITTING TO AND, UM, UH, PROCURING, UM, RENEWABLE ENERGY AS PART OF THEIR PORTFOLIO. UM, ABOUT A YEAR OR SO AGO, I HAD SPOKEN TO C P S JUST TO GET AN IDEA OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. UH, OUR BUILDINGS, STREETLIGHTS AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS, UM, CONSUME ABOUT 220 MILLION KILOWATT HOURS. UH, THERE'S A GREEN POWER, UM, FACTOR, UM, TO PURCHASE RENEWABLE POWER FROM C P S, PREDOMINANTLY WIND OF ABOUT 0 CENTS. AND SO IF YOU DO THE MATH, UH, IT COMES DOWN TO AROUND 600,000 AND CHANGE. SO IT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT. UM, SOME CITIES HAVE COMMITTED A PORTION, UM, OF THEIR, UM, UH, OF FUNDS TO, UM, MEET SOME OF THEIR RENEWABLE TARGETS. I THINK WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT EXPANDING RE UM, UH, ACTUAL SOLAR RENEWABLE, UM, SOLAR, UM, DEPLOYMENT ON CITY PROPERTIES. IF WE, IF WE CAN IDENTIFY SOME LARGE SCALE TRACKS WHERE WE CAN START GETTING SOME MORE, UH, INDUSTRIAL SCALE SOLAR WORKING WITH C P S, UM, AND GET CREDIT THAT WAY. SO I THINK WE MIGHT WANNA COME UP WITH A, A MIX OF SOLUTIONS TO MEET THAT TARGET. UM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING STAFF CAN START TALKING TO C P S ABOUT, UH, AND PROVIDE YOU WITH SOME, SOME OPTIONS. YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DO THAT. I MEAN, I THINK THAT NOT ONLY IS IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO, BUT ALSO IT HAS BENEFITS, LONGER TERM BENEFITS FOR THE HEALTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. UM, AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN EMPHASIZE THE RENEWABLE PARTS OF CP S'S PORTFOLIO, THAT'S OUR, OUR, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN BE PROUD OF IF WE DID, AND IT, IT'S WITHIN REACH. SO I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PLAN, UM, AND OPTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL COULD TAKE ACTION ON, UH, PERHAPS IN THE COMING FISCAL YEAR. SO, UH, DOUG, YOU GUYS DO GREAT WORK. THANK YOU TO OUR PARTNERS AT ACOG AS WELL. UM, AND ALSO AMIDST ALL THE UNCERTAINTY WITH REGULATORY AGENCIES AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB KEEPING US TRIAL ON TRACK. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU DOUG, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND DR. BRIDGER AND, UH, ACOG, UH, STAFF FOR BEING HERE. SORRY, I'M GIVING YOU MY, MY BACK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM, AND THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS ISSUE. I THINK, UM, LIKE CHERYL SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN CLOSE ANTICIPATING NON-ATTAINMENT FOR 10 YEARS, AND IT'S A BREATH OF FRESH AIR THAT, UH, HERE WE ARE FACING IT AGAIN. AND WE'RE NOT SAYING, OH, WE JUST HOPE WE DON'T GET IT. WE'RE ACTUALLY PUTTING FORTH A PLAN OF ACTION THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE FEDS COME BACK WITH, WE WILL BE CLEANING OUR AIR AND SAFEGUARDING PUBLIC HEALTH. I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE A PART OF A TEAM THAT'S DOING THAT, AND THANK YOU FOR LEADING THAT, THAT EFFORT. UM, SO, UM, THAT SAID, MONDAY WAS OUR FIFTH AIR QUALITY ALERT DAY, AND THAT WAS THE DAY THAT WE WERE ANTICIPATING THIS, UH, DESIGNATION. SO IT'S SLIGHTLY IRONIC. IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE WERE ASKING FOR IT. UM, [00:40:01] BUT JUST A, A REMINDER, AND I THINK DR. BRIDGER, YOU MAY HAVE ALLUDED TO THIS WHEN IT COMES TO THE HEALTH IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LONG PRESENTATION. THERE'S A LOT OF REGULATORY STUFF TO REVIEW, BUT IT REALLY IS ABOUT THE HEALTH IMPACTS. AND THAT HEALTH-BASED STANDARD IS SET AT THAT LEVEL TO PROTECT OUR SENSITIVE GROUPS. AND THOSE SENSITIVE GROUPS ARE SENIORS AND OUR CHILDREN, UH, CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY BREATHE AT THIS FASTER RATE THAN THE REST OF US DO, BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL DEVELOPING. AND SENIORS, BECAUSE YOUR LUNG FUNCTION DECREASES, DIMINISHES AS YOU'RE OLDER. SO THE LAST THING YOU WANT ARE RESPIRATORY EXACERBATIONS. SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE JUST FINISHED OUR SENIOR, UH, MONTH, UH, BUT I JUST WANT US TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THOSE ARE THE POPULATIONS WE'RE REALLY PROTECTING HERE. UM, SO I'M GLAD TO SEE US MOVING FORWARD ON SO MANY CHARGES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE GROWTH THAT WE'RE UNDERTAKING. IF WE AREN'T, UH, PROACTIVE, UH, WE COULD SEE OURSELVES NOT JUST IN THE MARGINAL CATEGORY, BUT MOVING TOWARD A MODERATE CATEGORY. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. UH, FOR TWO REASONS. NUMBER ONE IS BECAUSE IT CAN BE ONEROUS, UH, REGULATORY SPEAKING, REGULATORY SPEAKING, BUT SECONDLY, BECAUSE IT PUTS A LOT OF THE DECISIONS IN THE HANDS OF THE FEDS OR IN THE HANDS OF THE STATE. AND WE WANT THOSE DECISIONS HERE, RIGHT? MADE LOCALLY, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES WHO KNOW OUR COMMUNITY BEST. WE'RE THE ONES WHO KNOW WHAT'S GONNA WORK FOR HERE. AND WE REPRESENT, YOU KNOW, OUR BUSINESS OWNERS, OUR CONSTITUENTS, OUR SENIORS, OUR CHILDREN. SO I, I JUST WANNA SAY IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO MAKE THIS PROGRESS, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE FEDERAL DESIGNATION IS, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA GIVE UP THAT LOCAL CONTROL. SO I, I SEE THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY, NOT JUST, UM, NOT, NOT NECESSARILY A BAD THING. UM, SO THAT SAID, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. UM, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, DOUG UNCLASSIFIABLE DESIGNATION, UH, THAT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, ANOTHER YEAR BEFORE THE E P A MADE THAT DESIGNATION, SO THAT, THAT EXTENDS OUR UNCERTAINTY, OBVIOUSLY, FOR ANOTHER YEAR. BUT YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT GATHERING DATA AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY DATA? WHAT CRITERIA ARE THEY LOOKING AT TO MAKE THAT DECISION? LEMME GET THAT, UM, JUST ONE SECOND. SO, YOU KNOW, MY UNDERSTANDING OF OF UNCLASSIFIABLE IS I THINK IT'S, WHETHER IT'S SUPPLEMENTING THE EXISTING, UM, MONITORS THAT WE HAVE, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE DEFICIENCIES THAT THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT, IS JUST HAVING THESE THREE MONITORS. SO IS THERE OTHER AVAILABLE DATA THAT THEY CAN TAKE INTO THE EQUATION? UM, I THINK ALSO REALLY LOOKING AT TRANSPORT AND HOW, TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S OTHER, UM, EXCEPTIONAL EVENTS THAT CAN BE, UM, UH, TRACED TO, UM, THOSE TRANSPORT SOURCES THAT WOULD COME TO PLAY FOR DETERMINING THAT, UM, UH, THAT, UH, DECISION FOR WHAT THAT STATUS IS GOING TO BE. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF, UM, UH, DIANE RATH, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFICS ON THE DETAILS OF HOW THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT ANALYSIS? MR. MAYOR DIANE WRATH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF ALMA AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, UH, TO BE PRECISE, THE GOVERNOR'S RECOMMENDATION ON SEPTEMBER 27TH WAS ATTAINMENT OR UNCLASSIFIED SLASH ATTAINMENT. UH, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IF IT IS UNCLASSIFIED, THEN THEY MIGHT NEED ADDITIONAL DATA. THEY MIGHT NEED TIME JUST TO DO A DATA, ADDITIONAL DATA ANALYSIS. UH, AND IT REALLY IS DETERMINANT UPON WHAT E P A IS LOOKING AT, UH, LOOKING AT IF, IF WE LOOK AT THE PUBLIC RECORD OF WHAT, UH, E P A ADMINISTRATOR PRUITT HAS STATED, HE SAID HE IS VERY INTERESTED IN BETTER UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT OF BACKGROUND OZONE. BACKGROUND OZONE IS HOW MUCH IS PRODUCED OUTSIDE YOUR AREA. SO WHENEVER YOU HEAR BACKGROUND OZONE, THAT'S ALL IT MEANS. AND WE KNOW WE HAVE 68% PRODUCED OUTSIDE THIS AREA. SO 32% IS PRODUCED HERE. OUT OF OUR 68% THAT'S PRODUCED OUTSIDE THE AREA, 29% IS BY FOREIGN SOURCES. AND LOOKING AT THE ADMINISTRATOR'S PUBLIC STATEMENTS, HE WAS INTERESTED IN UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT OF FOREIGN TRANSPORT. I, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO, IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR, JUST ONE THING. I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE ONLY CONTROL 32% OF THE OZONE PRODUCED HERE, THEN IT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE THE WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND THE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT HAVE REDUCED OUR OZONE OVER 20 YEARS, FROM 90 PARTS PER BILLION DOWN TO BARELY EXCEEDING IT AT 73 WITH ONE MONITOR IN FULL COMPLIANCE AT LIKE 63. UH, SO IT IS THAT PUB VOLUNTARY MEASURE OF BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE [00:45:01] THAT HAVE PRODUCED SIGNIFICANT EMISSIONS. 'CAUSE YES, YOU SAW WHAT DALLAS AND HOUSTON HAVE DONE SINCE THE VERY BEGINNING. HOUSTON HAS BEEN IN A MODERATE ATTAINMENT AND BEEN FORCED TO TAKE STEPS WITH MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF ADDITIONAL, UH, REVENUE FLOWN IN. SO I THINK IT IS THAT ANALYSIS THAT COULD OCCUR AND A BETTER UNDERSTANDING. 'CAUSE EVEN IF WE ARE MARGINAL, WE ONLY HAVE THREE YEARS TO BRING IT DOWN TO 70 IF WE'RE TO AVOID MODERATE. SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, IN MY OPINION, TO CONTINUE ALL THE VOLUNTARY MEASURES IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HIT MODERATE. SO THAT MIGHT BE MORE THAN YOU WANTED, BUT HOPEFULLY PROVIDE A LITTLE FULLER YEAH. FRAMING. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. AND I ABSOLUTELY AGREE, EVEN IF WE'RE AT MARGINAL, THERE'S A LOT MORE WE WE CAN BE DOING. AND I JUST, UH, IF YOU HAVEN'T WORKED IN, UH, THIS IS NEW FOR, FOR MANY OF US, AND I JUST, UH, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE OR MY COLLEAGUES TO BE SCARED BY THE FACT THAT WE ONLY PRODUCE 29% OF THE OZONE. THAT IS ACTUALLY, UM, ACROSS THE US CITIES HAVE BACKGROUND OZONE, AND YOU WORK WITH WHAT YOU CAN INFLUENCE. THERE'S ALWAYS BACKGROUND OZONE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS PRODUCED OUTSIDE OF THE AREA. SOMETIMES IT'S JUST NATURAL, RIGHT? SOME OF IT IS PRODUCED NATURALLY BY OUR, BY OUR VEGETATION AND, AND SUNLIGHT. BUT, UH, SUB, YOU KNOW, THE PORTION WE CAN CONTROL IS, IS MANMADE. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON. SO PLEASE DO NOT BE DISCOURAGED BY THAT, BY THAT STATEMENT. OUR LUNGS ARE STILL HERE IN SAN ANTONIO , NO MATTER WHERE THE POLLUTION COMES FROM. UM, SO I'M ALSO REALLY, UH, EXCITED THAT WITH THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THIS AS, YOU KNOW, REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS POLLUTION REDUCES OZONE FORMING POLLUTION AS WELL. UM, ONE THING THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE UNTIL NOW, DOUG, IS HAVE METRICS FOR HOW EFFECTIVE OUR AIR QUALITY SUCCESSES ARE, RIGHT? SO HOW DO WE KNOW WHICH ONE TO INVEST IN VERSUS ANOTHER? IF YOU'VE GOT A LIMITED AMOUNT OF FUNDS, YOU WANT THE BIGGEST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK, OBVIOUSLY. SO DO WE HAVE PLANS TO BEGIN TO, UH, TO USE SOME METRICS FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU MENTIONED? SURE. AND I THINK THERE'S, AGAIN, THERE'S OVERLAP BETWEEN AIR QUALITY AND GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION. SO IT'S A PART OF THE, THE SCOPE FOR THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN IS, UH, TO IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE TARGETS ARE, HAVE SPECIFIC METRICS. SO IF ONE OF THEM IS GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTIONS, THE PLAN IS A SECTOR BY SECTOR BREAKDOWN OF SPECIFIC STRATEGIES THAT ARE QUANTIFIED, UM, THAT ARE GONNA SHOW US HOW TO GET TO WHERE WE WANT TO GO IN THE FUTURE. UH, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE A COST BENEFIT ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE AS WELL. SO I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL, HERE'S THE ROADMAP, HERE'S THE IMPLICATIONS. UH, AND THESE ARE THE PRIORITIZED STRATEGIES, UH, TO, TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO GO. OKAY, BECAUSE I'D, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT FOR THINGS LIKE OUR ANTI-IDLING ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, WHAT BENEFITS ARE, ARE WE GETTING FROM THAT? UM, AND I, I DIDN'T WANT THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET AWAY, BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MAKING THE, THE CITY CARBON NEUTRAL, UM, I THINK THAT'S AWESOME. UH, BUT WE SHOULDN'T JUST THINK ABOUT ELECTRICITY, RIGHT? UH, MM-HMM. , WE ALSO HAVE A FLEET THAT WE MANAGE. SO, UM, I'D, I'D ASK THAT WE MAKE THAT A COMPREHENSIVE CARBON NEUTRAL, UH, STRATEGY. AND, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR PRESENTATIONS, BOTH OF YOU AND I LOOK FORWARD TO OUR NEXT DISCUSSION ON NOVEMBER 29TH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. COUNCILMAN TREVINO. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, AND THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL FOR, UH, SOME GREAT QUESTIONS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF WANNA FOLLOW UP A LITTLE BIT. YOU, YOU MENTIONED CHILDREN, AND I, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A IMPORTANT, UH, PIECE. I, I WANTED TO ALSO, UH, TACKLE. UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO, TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO SEE HOW HOW SCHOOL CHILDREN ARE, ARE BEING IMPACTED SPECIFICALLY IN, IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, ALLERGIES AND OTHER CONDITIONS THAT, UH, THAT THEY MIGHT BE SEEING MORE OR LESS OF. DO WE, ARE WE TRACKING ANY OF THAT? SO WE'RE NOT, IN FACT, THIS CAME UP RECENTLY SPECIFIC TO ASTHMA. UM, AND, UH, PULMONOLOGIST WHO WAS AT THE COMMITTEE MEETING PULLED ME ASIDE AND SAID, WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT ASTHMA IN THE SCHOOLS? UM, SO HE AND I COMMITTED TO FIRST LOOKING AT THE DATA AND THEN, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RESPONSE NEEDS TO BE. I THINK ASTHMA IS A DECENT PROXY MEASURE FOR A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. UM, BUT IT IS, IT IS CHALLENGING TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISDS AND TRY TO GET THEM TO ALL AGREE TO DO ONE THING. BUT I THINK, UM, ONCE WE'RE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THE EFFECT, THEN WE WILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT EASIER CONVERSATION WITH FOLKS ABOUT, WELL, OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE DO? THE PULMONOLOGISTS ARE HERE AND THEY KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS DON'T HAVE ASTHMA ATTACKS, UH, [00:50:01] AND THEREFORE MISS SCHOOL. SO LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, I THINK I READ A STORY, UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A CASE WHERE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY SHOULD HAVE TO DIE FROM AN ASTHMA ATTACK. IS THAT, IS THAT A CORRECT STATEMENT? YES, ABSOLUTELY. 100%. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY AWFUL TO THINK THAT THERE'S PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE DEALING WITH THAT ACTUAL SITUATION. AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PARAMOUNT THAT WE, UH, COLLABORATE AND, AND TRY TO FOCUS SOME, SOME EFFORT ON WITH, UH, WITH THESE SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO TRY TO, TO, TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS VERY PREVENTABLE, UH, SPOKEN TO MANY DOCTORS ABOUT THIS. UH, THIS IS A, A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE AND, AND HOPE THAT WE CAN, UH, EXPRESS THE, THE, THE CONCERN, AGAIN, AS, AS WAS STATED EARLIER, I MEAN, THIS IS WHILE WE'RE TRYING TO, TO, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ATTAINMENT, WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING. I MEAN, THIS IS, THESE ARE SOME REAL IMPACTS THAT WE'RE SEEING EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND, AND, AND SOMEBODY WHO, WHO HAS TO FACE, UM, THE SERIOUSNESS OF, OF, OF A CHILD DYING OVER SOMETHING THAT IS VERY PREVENTABLE IS I THINK, THE MOST SERIOUS THING WE CAN TACKLE. UH, SO THE OTHER QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, IS, UM, HAVE WE, HAVE WE LOOKED AT, AND MAYBE THIS IS ACTUALLY A QUESTION FOR, FOR DOUG. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. NO, YOU DOCTOR, WE'RE USED TO DOING THIS THING. YEAH, . UM, SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, WE JUST HEARD, UH, FROM ACOG THAT, UH, ABOUT 29% OF, OF SOME OF THESE OZONE SOURCES ARE INTERNATIONAL. OF COURSE, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO, TO MEXICO. UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TRACK SOME OF THAT, UM, SOME OF THESE, THESE SOURCES? AND JUST JUST TO POINT OUT, THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY IS, IS A MAJOR SOURCE, UH, FOR MAQUILADORAS. MAQUILADORAS, UH, ARE ARE VERY LARGE PLANTS THAT PRODUCE, UH, QUITE A LOT OF, UH, PRODUCT. AND THEY PARTNER WITH THE CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES. AND, UH, YOU COUPLE THAT WITH, WITH A REFINERY IN RENO. AND YOU KNOW, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE'S AN ESTIMATE OF, UH, SOMETHING LIKE A LITTLE OVER 3000 MAQUILA LORAS ALONG THE BORDER, AND I KNOW THAT AT LEAST A THIRD OF THOSE ARE DOWN IN THE RIO GRANDE VALLEY. WHAT ARE WE TRACKING FROM THAT AREA AND, UH, IS IN RELATION TO HOW IT'S IMPACTING SAN ANTONIO? AND I SAY THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, THERE ARE RELATIONSHIPS ON THIS SIDE OF THE BORDER THAT THESE MAQUILADORAS AND THE REFINERIES HAVE WITH MUNICIPALITIES IN THE RO GRANDE VALLEY, LIKE MACALLAN, RIGHT? I'M, I'M NOT AWARE OF, UM, HOW, YOU KNOW, ACOG'S PULLING OUT THAT, THAT DATA. UM, SO, BUT I THINK YOUR, YOUR POINT'S REALLY WELL TAKEN IN TERMS OF, UM, TRYING TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES FOR CROSS BORDER COLLABORATION. UM, I HAD, UM, REMEMBERED WHEN, UM, THERE WAS SOME, UH, WHEN THE, THE, UM, THE NATURAL GAS, THE FRACKING BOOM WAS GOING ON, THAT THERE WAS, UH, SOME WORK TRYING TO BRING BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE BORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ANY, UM, NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS OCCURRING THERE WAS AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE. SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL, IT'S A, IT'S AN EXCELLENT POINT TO, TO SIT DOWN WITH ACOG, IDENTIFY IF WE CAN, AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, THOSE, THOSE INTERNATIONAL SOURCES AND, UM, AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO, TO, TO COLLABORATE. I THINK DIANE HAD A, A COMMENT, THAT'S GOOD QUESTION. I'M SORRY TO JUMP IN. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE AIR IS COMING FROM. MEXICO, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, CONTRIBUTES ABOUT 1% TO OUR AIR QUALITY HERE, UH, WHEN WE DO THE MODELING, AND I HAVE TO COMMENT THAT THE MODELING IS DONE UNDER THE ONLY MODEL THAT IS APPROVED BY P E E P A AND T C E Q, AND IT'S THE ONE THAT THEY USE IN ALL OF THEIR ACTIVITIES. SO UNDER THAT MODELING, IT TAKES TWO YEARS TO RUN. AND WE CAN TRACK, I KNOW IT SOUNDS RIDICULOUS, BUT WE CAN TRACK THE PARTICLES TO THE PLACE OF ORIGIN. SO WE KNOW WHAT COMES FROM SAHARA DUST. UH, ONE OF OUR PRIMARY CONTRIBUTORS IS REALLY SOUTH AMERICA. UH, WE KNOW WHAT COMES FROM CHINA. SO THE DATA IS AVAILABLE, AND IT IS WHAT E P A RECOGNIZES TO REALLY TRACK THAT. WE'LL BE GLAD I'LL SEND YOU THAT INFORMATION, WHICH REALLY HAS THE COUNTRY AND THAT PERCENTAGE, IF I MAY, AND TO FURTHER COMMENT, UM, AND EXCUSE ME, I'M SORRY MR. MAYOR, BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING EXTENSIVELY WITH THE SCHOOL NURSES FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND ARE VERY, VERY PLEASED THAT THE REIMBURSEMENTS THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE RECEIVING ON THEIR AVERAGE DAILY ATTENDANCE DUE TO ASTHMA. AND THOSE THINGS HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, INCREASED. IN FACT, BY MEMORY, IT'S NORTHSIDE SCHOOL DISTRICT WAS RECOGNIZED LAST YEAR FOR HAVING THE MOST SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT. SO THE SCHOOL NURSES ARE ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THOSE CHILDREN THAT HAVE ASTHMA, NOT LETTING 'EM GO OUTSIDE ON AN OZONE ACTION DAY, REALLY WORKING WITH EDUCATING THE PARENTS [00:55:01] AND TAKING THOSE PROACTIVE ACTIONS AT SCHOOL TO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN, UM, TO ADDRESS IT. IT'S MUCH BETTER TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AND NOT HAVE A PROBLEM, BUT I COULDN'T ENDORSE MORE CONTINUED ACTION, AND CLEARLY THE CITY'S INVOLVEMENT WOULD HAVE A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT. BUT WORKING WITH THE, UH, REGION 20 SERVICE CENTER IS HOW YOU COORDINATE WITH ALL THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY RESPONSIVE. I REALLY HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE EFFORTS THEY'VE MADE. SO, I'M SORRY, BUT I, I DIDN'T WANT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S EFFORTS TO NOT BE RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU, DIANE. THAT'S, THAT'S WONDERFUL INSIGHT. SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE ALL NEED TO PAY, UH, SPECIAL ATTENTION TO. UM, DOUG, SO, UH, ONE LAST, UM, WELL LAST COUPLE, COUPLE OF POINTS. UM, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THE ROOF PROGRAM AND, UH, I THINK YOU MENTIONED, UM, THE TREE ORDINANCE, BUT ALONG WITH THAT IS THE NEW TREE FUND. YOU KNOW, WE, WHERE WE'RE PLANNING UP TO 13, ALMOST 13,000 TREES THAT I THINK ARE, ARE GONNA BE, UH, UH, PROVIDE A, HOPEFULLY A MEASURABLE IMPACT FOR OUR CITY. UH, SO I DO JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE THAT. I WANNA THANK, UM, MARVIA GOMEZ AND PARKS AND RECREATION FOR HELPING ESTABLISH THAT. UM, THE LAST THING IS, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE, THE LIGHT CITY LIGHTING AND THE AMOUNT OF, OF, OF, UM, CONSUMPTION OF ELECTRICITY. HAVE WE TRACKED AS WE'RE, AS WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO L E D LIGHTS, UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE, THE REASONS WE'RE GOING TO L E D LIGHTS IS THAT THEY'RE MORE EFFICIENT LIGHTS. HOWEVER, UM, ARE WE TRACKING HOW MUCH WE PLAN TO SAVE ELECTRICITY? AND ARE WE, ARE WE HAVING A, ARE WE WORKING UP A, A PLAN TO, TO HELP US WITHIN THAT TRANSITION TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT COST SAVINGS OR ENERGY SAVINGS, AND NOT JUST SIMPLY, UH, ADDING MORE LIGHTS, UH, FOR THE SAKE OF ADDING MORE LIGHTS? RIGHT. SO WE DO, UM, AND I, AND I, I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME. AND WE DO HAVE A SPREADSHEET THAT SHOWS THE, UM, ENERGY CONSUMPTION, UM, FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS, TRAFFIC LIGHTS, UM, OVER THE YEARS. AND WE CAN SEE A, A MARKED IN, IN IMPROVEMENTS. I THINK, AGAIN, GOING FORWARD AS A PART OF THE, THE CLIMATE PLAN, IT'S REALLY GONNA BE QUANTIFYING WHAT OUR LONG-TERM TARGETS ARE, UM, WHERE WE CAN, UM, MAKE THE MOST IMPACT, UM, AND WHERE THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE IMPACTS ARE. BUT I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN WE START LOOKING AT LIGHTING, THERE'S LOTS OF IMPLICATIONS AROUND LIGHTING THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED HERE BEFORE IN TERMS OF SAFETY, UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUES, UM, MILITARY ISSUES. SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A, A BROAD DISCUSSION AROUND LIGHTING, UM, AND WHERE WE CAN REASONABLY TARGET, UH, TO, TO MAKE THOSE REDUCTIONS, BUT DEFINITELY HAVING, UH, TARGETS THAT WE'RE STRIVING FOR. YEAH. THANK YOU, DOUG. I APPRECIATE THAT. UH, THANKS AGAIN FOR THE PRESENTATION. UM, THANKS, UH, TO ACOG FOR BEING HERE. UM, THE, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TOPIC AND, UH, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE, UH, ATTAINMENT NUMBERS, BUT RATHER DOING THE RIGHT THING. AND I THINK, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE WELL ON OUR WAY TO, TO SETTING A GOOD EXAMPLE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN TREVINO. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. ACTUALLY, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAD HAVE, HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, BUT MAYBE WE COULD, UM, CONSIDER THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND MY CONCERN IS WE'VE GOT 1.2 MILLION PEOPLE PROJECTED TO MOVE INTO THIS CITY IN THE NEXT 20 TO 25 YEARS. UH, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN CONTINUE LOWERING, UH, OUR RATE OF, OF AIR QUALITY WHEN YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING A MILLION MORE PEOPLE AND PROBABLY A HALF A MILLION MORE CARS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF JOBS IN HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES. UH, IT, IT ALMOST SEEMS OVERWHELMING, BUT WHEN 68% OF THAT IS BACKGROUND, UH, AND, AND WE HAVE VERY LITTLE PLANNED TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, UH, I THINK THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO SWIM AGAINST THE CURRENT HERE. AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE A PADDLE, UH, AND I'M GETTING TIRED. AND I'M WONDERING, UH, IF WE SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING TO TRY AND DEVELOP SOME KIND OF WAY OF, OF GETTING INTO THAT 68% THAT'S OUT THERE THAT WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE LOCAL CONTROL OVER. AND, UH, I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME INFORMATION. IT SHOWS US WHERE A LOT OF THAT BAD AIR IS COMING FROM. AND, AND EVEN IF IT'S ONLY 1% FROM THE MAQUILADORAS AROUND THE BORDER, OR IF IT'S 25% FROM, UH, ARGENTINA, I THINK WE NEED [01:00:01] TO START LOOKING AT SOME LONG RANGE PLANS. OTHERWISE WE'RE NEVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO ATTAIN, UH, OVER A CONSISTENT PERIOD OF TIME, UH, REASONABLE AIR QUALITY. 'CAUSE WE GOT A MILLION MORE PEOPLE COMING TO LIVE IN THIS CITY. SO, UM, COUPLE OF, OF, OF RESPONSES, I THINK ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, ACOG HAS DONE SOME LONG-TERM MODELING, UM, THAT HAS SHOWED CONTINUED IMPROVEMENTS OF AIR QUALITY, UM, IN SPITE OF THAT POPULATION GROWTH. AND I THINK A, A LARGE PART OF THAT HAS TO DO CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT IN, UM, VEHICLE EMISSION STANDARDS. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WHERE WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT STARTED TALKING ABOUT ROLLING THOSE BACK, THERE WAS CONCERN BECAUSE THAT'S, I THINK WE RELY HEAVILY ON THAT. UM, I THINK ALSO LOOKING AT INCREASING OUR, OUR LOCAL, UM, UH, FUEL MIX AND IMPROVING THE EFFICIENCY OF, OF THAT. UM, I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS WE CAN DO LOCALLY. UM, I THINK THE OTHER THING THAT WE WANT TO DO, AGAIN, MENTIONING THE, THE STUDY THAT DR. BRIDGER IS GOING TO BE OVERSEEING WITH, WITH DR. JEFF JEFFRIES, UH, IS REALLY GOING TO ALLOW US TO START LOOKING AT, UM, UH, WHERE THOSE OZONE NUMBERS COME FROM AT THE MONITORS, WHILE WE'RE HAVING A LOT, YOU KNOW, 68% COMING IN, UM, REALLY LOOKING AT THE AREAS CLOSER TO THE MONITORS AND REALLY SEEING WHAT ARE THERE SPECIFIC, UM, EMITTERS WITHIN A THREE TO FOUR MILE, UM, UH, AREA AROUND THOSE MONITORS THAT WE COULD TARGET THAT WOULD HELP REDUCE THOSE NUMBERS. SO I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A MUCH MORE COMPLEX ISSUE THAT WE REALLY NEED TO, TO GET OUR, OUR, OUR HEAD AROUND TO MAKE THE, UM, THE RIGHT DECISIONS AND THE RIGHT STRATEGY GOING FORWARD. BUT I THINK YOUR POINT'S WELL TAKEN. 68% IS A, IS A LARGE NUMBER, BUT I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S STILL, UM, I THINK WE STILL NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT A A LITTLE MORE. I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOME OF THAT MODELING AND WHAT THOSE PROJECTIONS ARE ON WHAT WE CAN DO. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN COURAGE. COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, THANKS DOUG FOR THE PRESENTATION. IT'S LIKE THE SECOND TIME I'VE SEEN THIS NOW IN TWO WEEKS, , I'M ACTUALLY REMEMBERING SOME STUFF NOW. SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UH, GOING THROUGH IT ONE MORE TIME. I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. AND THANK YOU DR. BRIDGER AS, AS WELL FOR YOUR, UM, TIME SPENT COMING BACK BEFORE US. UH, I GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UH, IN, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU STATED, UH, AND I, I DON'T HAVE IT VERBATIM, BUT, UH, YOU SAID PERCEPTION, THERE'S A PERCEPTION OUT THERE THAT THINGS ARE BAD. AND YOU SAID IT'S QUITE THE OPPOSITE. THINGS ARE GOOD IN GETTING BETTER. SO CAN YOU ELABORATE ON WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT? SURE. I THINK, UM, AND I THINK IT'S THIS, IT'S THIS SLIDE SHOWING THAT THE OVERALL TRENDS FOR OUR AIR QUALITY, UH, IS IMPROVING IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF OZONE. UH, AND I THINK, UM, IN SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I'VE HAD WITH THE PUBLIC OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, I THINK THERE'S A, UM, A THOUGHT THAT OUR AIR QUALITY JUST CONTINUES TO, TO DECLINE. AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S THE, THE NUMBERS ARE, UM, FOR OZONE. CONTRARY TO THAT, I THINK THAT WE ARE SEEING THOSE NUMBERS IMPROVE. AND SO, UM, I THINK IT'S JUST CLARIFYING WHERE WE WERE WITH OZONE AND WHERE WE ARE NOW, BUT IT'S, SO THAT'S A VERY GOOD THINK, BUT IT'S BY NO MEAN ARE WE WHERE WE NEED, WE'RE NOT FAR FROM WHERE WE NEED TO BE ACCORDING TO THE STANDARD. WE'RE THREE POINTS AWAY. SO I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THREE POINTS EQUATES TO AND HOW YOU SURE. WHERE WE'RE GOING ON THE TREND LINE TO GET THERE. BUT I THINK IT'S VERY INTERESTING WHEN YOUR PRESENTATION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE DANGERS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEATHS, AND WE'RE, WE'RE GOING, GOING, GOING, AND IT'S A DOOM AND GLOOM SCENARIO. AND QUITE ACTUALLY, WE'RE DOING VERY WELL. SO I, I DO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE ARE DOING VERY GOOD. AND SOMETIMES THE PERCEPTION OF THE LANGUAGE AROUND HERE MAKES IT SEEM AS THOUGH WE'RE FAILING AND WE'RE NOT GETTING IT DONE. AND IN REALITY, IT'S QUITE THE CONTRARY BY YOUR OWN WORDS, AS THE CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER, WE ARE DOING WELL AND CONTINUING TO GET BETTER. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A GOOD PERCEPTION ISSUE OUT. IT'S A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT PERCEPTION. 'CAUSE OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, IF WE'RE OUT THERE TELLING PEOPLE WHERE PEOPLE ARE DYING OR THERE'S PERCENTAGE ISSUES HERE, WE COULD GO DOWN 2% HERE AND 24 PEOPLE DIE. OR IN REALITY, AND I LOOK AT THIS LIST ON THE COMPARABLE CITIES OZONE LEVELS HERE, AND WE'RE DOING EXCEPTIONALLY WELL. I MEAN, GRANTED WE'RE AT A 73, I MEAN, WE NEED, WE NEED TO GET TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. AND WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE E P A IS GONNA SAY. I MEAN, WE VERY WELL BE OKAY, IN WHICH CASE WE HAVE TO THEN CONSIDER WHEN WE START THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS, AND I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS MULTIPLE TIMES, ABOUT THERE'S A COST TO ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS. SOME SAY, YOU KNOW, $600,000 OVER HERE, SOMEONE, UH, YOU KNOW, SAY, MAY SAY IT'S, WE CHANGE OR ADJUST THIS, OR WE PASS THESE COSTS ON HERE, WE ENHANCE STREET CANOPY AND, AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR ALL OF THIS. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAUTIOUS IN THE SENSE THAT WE ARE DOING WELL AND LET'S NOT OVER MESSAGE DOOM AND GLOOM TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN THAT IS CLEARLY NOT THE CASE. UM, AND WE MESSAGE [01:05:01] MORE APPROPRIATELY, WHICH IS SAYING, HEY, WE'RE DOING GOOD. WE CAN DO BETTER. AND I DON'T EVER HEAR THAT IN THE CONVERSATION. RIGHT? AND I THINK IT'S GOOD IN THE COMMUNITY, THE, THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMUNITY, WHICH I AM JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF, AND I'VE ALREADY FULLY ADMITTED I, I HAVE A LOT TO LEARN. UM, BUT THAT SUSTAINABILITY COMMUNITY ALSO NEEDS TO BE TOLD, HEY, WE'RE DOING GOOD AND WE'RE ON A TREND LINE THAT'S POSITIVE HERE. SO LET'S NOT CAUSE PROBLEMS AND GO, LET'S NOT BE THE SOLUTION CITY COUNCIL THAT'S LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM. THAT'S MY POINT. WE'VE GOT A BUNCH OF SOLUTIONS, BUT WE DON'T GOT A PROBLEM. SO WE CAN FIND OURSELVES AS GOVERNMENT THE SOLUTION LOOKING FOR THE PROBLEM. AND I WOULD JUST CAUTION YOU THAT I THINK, AND IT'S, I'M GLAD YOU USED THOSE EXACT WORDS. WE'RE DOING GOOD. AND THE PERCEPTION OUT THERE IS WRONG. WELL, IF I COULD, IF I COULD, IF I COULD CLARIFY. SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OZONE STANDARD, IT'S, IT, IT'S CHANGING, IT'S GETTING MORE RESTRICTIVE. UM, THE, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC HEALTH COMMUNITY WANTED IT STRICTER THAN, THAN 70 PARTS PER BILLION BECAUSE IT IS, IT IS A PUBLIC HEALTH, UM, ISSUE. I THINK WHILE WE'RE DOING BETTER AND OUR, OUR TREND LINE IS GOING DOWN, UM, I THINK IT, IT'S FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S STILL WORK TO DO. OH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU. AND THEN I THINK THE OTHER THING WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF IS, UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT COUNCILMAN KREER HAD ALWAYS BROUGHT UP WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WAS THIS IS A MOVING TARGET, YOU KNOW, SO WHILE, UM, OUR, OUR TREND LINE IS GOOD, IT'S, IT ONLY SEEMS LIKE WE'RE THREE PARTS PER BILLION FROM FROM 70 IN MEETING ATTAINMENT. UM, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT NEXT ADMINISTRATION LOWERS IT TO 65? SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF, COGNIZANT OF THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO TAKE THE ACTIONS TO PROVE AIR QUALITY. BUT I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THE, THE ECONOMICS OF IT ARE A CONSIDERATION. I MEAN, AND I THINK, I THINK EVERYTHING THAT WE DO NEEDS TO BE ALSO, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THAT, THROUGH THAT LENS. SURE. AND, AND I'VE ASKED THAT, UH, JUST SO MY COLLEAGUES KNOW, IN A PREVIOUS COMMITTEE MEETING, I DID ASK THAT IF WE ENCOUNTER A POLICY RECOMMENDATION THAT IT ALSO HAS A TRUE COST ANALYSIS, BECAUSE I COULD PUT A WORD OF CAUTION OUT THERE, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS THIS COUNCIL DOES, UH, HAS AN IMPACT ON OTHER LOFTY GOALS THAT HAVE BEEN STATED OUT IN THE COMMUNITY, RIGHT? WE'VE GOTTA CREATE 250,000 AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE JOB GROWTH GOALS. WE WANT TO JUST A LOT, RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT THAT'S COMING OUT OF THIS BODY ABOUT THESE GOALS THAT CREATE A CITY, RIGHT? UM, AND WHEREVER YOU FALL ON THOSE ISSUES, WHERE YOU FALL ON 'EM, BUT IF YOU MAKE, AND YOU, YOU GET INTO THESE STRICTER CONVERSATIONS AND YOU START TO PASS THESE COSTS ON, I'M TELLING YOU THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE OTHER FOLKS, I, THE MAYOR MENTIONED A CARBON NEUTRAL. I MEAN, BEFORE WE JUMP INTO SOLUTIONS ON CARBON NEUTRAL, LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT CARBON NEUTRAL IS AND LET'S, LET'S HAVE A CONVERSATION AS A BODY OF WHAT GOALS WE WANNA SEE WITH THAT AND THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE GONNA GO OUT THERE AND WE'RE GONNA PUSH THESE KINDS OF MEASURES, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, THE FOLKS THAT WE NEED ON OUR OTHER LOFTY GOALS ARE GONNA SUFFER. 'CAUSE THEY'RE, THOSE COSTS ARE GONNA GET PASSED ON. AND TRUST ME, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE BUILDING THE COMMUNITY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT OUTTA THE KINDNESS OF THEIR HEART. THEY'RE GONNA INCREASE THEIR BIDS, THEY'RE GONNA INCREASE THEIR COSTS OF, OF HOME BUILDING, THEY'RE GONNA INCREASE THEIR COSTS OF, YOU NAME IT. THEY'RE GONNA PASS THE COSTS ON TO THE CONSUMER. SO IT'S A FINE BALANCE. I'M NOT ADVOCATING, UH, THAT WE DON'T PURSUE THIS AND CONTINUE A PATH ON THIS. I, I, I THINK WE SHOULD, AND I THINK WE SHOULD EXAMINE WHAT IT IS, BUT THROUGH THE LENS OF MULTIPLE OTHER BIG TIME PROJECTS AND COMMUNITY CHANGING ASPECTS THAT WE'RE FACING, RIGHT? AND, AND THE FACT THAT THESE COSTS GET PASSED ON, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE JUST TO, WE, WE CAUTION THAT OUT THERE, THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS JUMP TO SOLUTION WITHOUT ENSURING WE REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM AND MEASURE WHAT THAT WHY REALLY IS LIKE, WHY ARE WE REALLY DOING THIS? AND WHAT'S THE EFFECT ON IT? TWO AND THREE STEPS DEEPER THAN JUST A, A NUMBER THAT SAYS 73 ARE ON A BOARD, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GETTING BETTER AT. SO I'M, I'M, I'M ALSO, YOU KNOW, I ALSO HEAR YOU WHEN YOU SAY 68% OF THE OZONE ARE FROM OUTSIDE SOURCES. AND I WOULD, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A MINUTE AGO. HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GONNA, AND WE DISCUSSED THIS AT COMMITTEE, HOW IN THE WORLD ARE YOU GONNA GO OUT TO OUTSIDE SOURCES OUTSIDE OF OUR MUNICIPALITY WHEN WE SCREAM LOCAL CONTROL? NOW WE'RE GONNA GO OUT AND TRY TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON PEOPLE OUTSIDE. I, IT'S AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION TO HAVE ABOUT HOW WE ARE GOING TO MITIGATE THE RISK OF THAT FROM SOURCES OUTSIDE OF OUR MUNICIPALITY. I THINK IT'S A FAIR AND WORTHY CONVERSATION, DON'T GET ME WRONG. UH, BUT IT, THAT BECOMES A PARTNERSHIP. THAT DOESN'T BECOME A DICTATION. US DICTATING WHERE WE'RE AT. IT BECOMES HOW DO WE WORK WITH OUTSIDE SOURCES? I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR A THIRD OF IT, BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SOLUTION. RIGHT? THAT'S A, THAT'S A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS RIGHT THERE. ONE THIRD OF IT WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY FOR, BUT WE SHOULDN'T ASSUME ALL THOSE COSTS IN FIXING IT. SO, UM, I JUST THINK THAT, UH, I JUST WRAP IT UP WITH THIS. I, I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT WE [01:10:01] HAVE TO ALWAYS BE COGNIZANT OF OUR DECISION MAKING AND WHERE IT GOES AND, AND HOW IT AFFECTS OTHER FOLKS AND OTHER, AND OTHER THINGS WE'RE WORKING ON. AND IT, WE HAVE TO BE TRUE AND RIGHT IN WHAT WE'RE SAYING TO THE COMMUNITY. AND I LIKE THE FACT YOU SAID THE PERCEPTION ISSUES WHERE IT'S AT AND IT'S, IT'S MISPLACED. SO LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND AS A BODY TO MAKE SURE WE ALWAYS REMIND OURSELVES WE'RE DOING WELL. AND, UH, HOW CAN WE GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER INCREMENTALLY AND GET TO THE NUMBER THAT MAKES SENSE? AND I THINK WE'LL BE, UH, IN A BETTER POSITION TO HAVE TOTAL BUY-IN ACROSS THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY TO INCLUDE OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY WHO HAS TO BE ALONG WITH US TO CREATE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE THAT, TO COUNCILMAN COURAGES POINT THAT'S GONNA SUSTAIN THOSE 1.2 MILLION PEOPLE OR THOSE 1 MILLION PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING, THOSE 500,000 CARS. WE HAVE TO BE RIGHT WHEN THOSE FOLKS GET HERE AS WELL. AND THAT MEANS LOOKING AT ALL SOLUTIONS AND ALL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AND BEING VERY THOUGHTFUL IN THE, IN THE DEBATE. SO I DO APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION. I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ON IT. THANK YOU. FURTHER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BRONK HOUSE. UH, JUST REAL QUICK, DOUG HAS THE, UH, COST OF NON-ATTAINMENT STUDY AND PUBLIC HEALTH COST FOR NON-ATTAINMENT, UH, STUDIES BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO COUNCIL? YES. UM, WE'VE, WE, WE DID DISTRIBUTE THE, THE HEALTH STUDY AND YOU SHOULD HAVE THE COST OF NON ATTAINMENT STUDY WITH ALL THE COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS. WE CAN, WE CAN REDISTRIBUTE IT 'CAUSE IT WAS A WHILE WHILE AGO. YEAH. I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE REDISTRIBUTED. SO EVERYBODY HAS THE FACTS. COUNCILMAN, COUNCILWOMAN, GRA. THANK YOU MAYOR. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, DOUG. AND YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN DEFINITELY CHERYL JUST A, A JOURNEY WE'VE BEEN ALL TAKING TOGETHER SINCE, UH, THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY HAS EVEN STOOD UP TOO. SO I THINK IT'S BEEN REALLY, UM, EYE-OPENING AND ALWAYS MAKING SURE OF, WE KNOW WE CAN'T CONTROL EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT WE CAN AND THOSE STEPS THAT WE CAN MAKE FOR OUR COMMUNITY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND I THINK WE ARE EVEN, UM, MORE SO BLESSED NOW AS A COUNCIL TO HAVE A CLIMATE SCIENTIST ON OUR, UM, CITY COUNCIL WHO CAN BE HERE AND SPEAK TO THIS AND WHO'S DONE THE STUDIES HERSELF, UM, ON AIR QUALITY HERE. SO I THINK THAT'S BEEN VERY, VERY, IT'S BEEN IMPORTANT FOR US IN THIS CONVERSATION AND HAS VERY MUCH, UM, GIVEN US A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE INFORMATION AS WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION TOGETHER AND MAKE THESE DECISIONS MOVING FORWARD. UM, AND I DO DO BELIEVE THAT, YES, UM, PERCEPTION IS ONE THING. AND I DO ALSO KNOW THAT REALITY IS ONE THING AND WHAT MY, A LOT OF MY NEIGHBORS IN DISTRICT THREE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE REALITY OF AIR, UM, QUALITY ISSUES IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT THEY CANNOT WALK OUTSIDE OR SPEND TIME IN THEIR BACKYARD BECAUSE OF AIR QUALITY ISSUES THAT THEY HAVE. UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK AND IT IS IMPORTANT TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORS, THE BUSINESSES, EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTANT FOR, FOR EVERYONE. BUT ON THAT NOTE, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE A QUESTION OF SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR, OUR AIR POLLUTION ORDINANCES. WHO, WHERE IS THE ENFORCEABLE, ENFORCEABLE ENTITY IN THIS? WHERE, WHERE IS THAT? IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THAT. MY EXPERIENCE HERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF ENFORCEMENT SEEMS TO FALL AT T C E Q. THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE, AND THERE'S BEEN INSTANCES WHERE, UM, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME AIR QUALITY ISSUES. UH, AND IT SEEMS AS THOUGH SOME, SOME CITY AGENCIES, UH, HAVE TO DEFER TO, TO T C E Q. UM, AND, AND I I THINK THAT'S BEEN UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE, UH, IT'S, UM, THE RESIDENTS, UH, ARE, ARE SUFFERING. SO I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY SHOULD LOOK AT AND, AND POTENTIALLY, UM, UH, DISCUSS IS THERE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE TO TRY TO EXPEDITE, EXPEDITE, UM, UH, RESOLUTION FOR THESE RESIDENTS. SO AS WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION, AS WE LOOK AT OUR, UM, OUR PLAN MOVING FORWARD, OUR ACTION PLAN, EVEN LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY CAN EVEN DO AND TO ENFORCE OUR OWN AIR QUALITY STANDARDS AND AIR QUALITY AND THE POLLUTION, WE HAVE TO LOOK IN EVEN WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE TO ENFORCE IN OUR OWN WHEELHOUSE HERE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD. UM, IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME, BUT REALLY I JUST BASICALLY HAVE A, A QUESTION. WHAT, IS JEFF STILL HERE? JEFF COYLE, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE E P A? DOES IT EXIST? I MEAN, IT EXISTS. I MEAN, NO, I, I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS THE STATUS OF IT, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WAITING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. SOMETHING'S HAPPENING, SOMETHING'S NOT, WHERE ARE WE WITH THIS, WITH [01:15:01] THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY? IS IT JUST A, IS IT JUST A STRAW STRAWMAN OR IS IT SOMETHING JEFF JEFF'S COMING. I MEAN, FROM OUR PERS FROM FROM MY OFFICE'S PERSPECTIVE, WE TRY TO FIND INFORMATION OUT AND WE BASICALLY GET NO ANSWERS. UHHUH . UM, BUT I, I, THE QUESTION IS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH E P A AND, AND I KNOW THAT WE AS AN I G R COMMITTEE, WE CAN GO UP THERE, WE CAN MAYBE SET UP MEETINGS TO TALK TO SOMEBODY IN THE, IN THE E P A TO HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS. BUT WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THE E P A RIGHT NOW? UH, IT'S A VERY DIFFERENT E P A, UH, AS YOU MIGHT IMAGINE FROM THE LAST ONE. UM, AS DOUG WENT THROUGH ON THE TIMELINE, THEY HAD INITIALLY PUT OFF THE, UH, DESIGNATIONS FOR A YEAR AND THEN CHANGED COURSE AND, AND DECIDED TO GO FORWARD WITH THEM. THAT'S PROBABLY THE OFFICIAL ANSWER AS FAR AS WHERE THEY ARE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE OZONE, THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF AIR QUALITY STANDARDS IS AN AGENCY ISSUE. IT'S NOT, UH, OVERSEEN BY CONGRESS. CONGRESS PASSED THE CLEAN AIR ACT AND THEN E P A, UH, ADMINISTRATOR IMPLEMENTS ALL THIS THAT SAID, THERE'S, THERE IS A PUSH IN CONGRESS TO TRY TO INSERT SOME OVERSIGHT OVER E P A AND DICTATE HOW THIS IS HANDLED. OKAY. UH, THERE'S A BILL THAT, UH, PASSED THE HOUSE THAT OUR DELEGATION, FRANKLY WAS SPLIT ON THAT WOULD'VE PUSHED ALL OF THIS STUFF OFF ANOTHER 10 YEARS AND BROUGHT UP A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT FOREIGN SOURCES AND, AND HOW THOSE SHOULD BE ACCOUNTED FOR. AND WE, WE'VE TRACKED THAT AS A CITY AT THIS POINT, BUT NOT TAKEN A POSITION ON IT. IT'S IT AT OUR LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL PASSED. AND OUR FEDERAL PROGRAM SAID, WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE AIR QUALITY, WE'RE GONNA LIMIT THE HEALTH IMPACTS, AND WE'RE GONNA MEET THE STANDARD MM-HMM. . SO, UM, SO WE'VE NOT WEIGHED IN ON A POSITION THAT WOULD LESSEN THE STANDARD, BUT KEEP US OUT. WE'VE JUST CONTINUED TO TRY TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNER DEPARTMENTS HERE IN, IN MOVING IT FORWARD. SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DIRECTLY ANSWERS IT OTHER THAN TO SAY THAT IT, IT, IT HELPS GIVE SOME PERSPECTIVE OF WHAT MAY BE THERE, WHAT MAY BE NOT THERE. BUT NOT JUST IT IT IS STAND IT IS STILL STANDING AS AN AGENCY, BUT YES. WHAT ARE THE, HOW ARE THEY WORKING AND WHAT ARE THEY IMPLEMENTING AND WHAT ARE THEY? UM, THE, THE E P A ADMINISTRATOR WAS THE FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF ALABAMA, I BELIEVE, OKLAHOMA, WHO WAS AMONG THOSE OH, THAT'S RIGHT. WHO, UM, LED THE LAWSUITS AGAINST THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OVER AT QUALITY STANDARDS. SO THERE'S DEFINITELY A, UM, UH, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE NOW. YES. OKAY. ALL WELL SAID. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, . ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. AND I THINK WHAT'S ALSO, UH, DOUG, FOR, FOR US, ACTUALLY, DR. BRIDGER, I KNOW YOU'RE HERE AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATION BEFORE, BUT, UH, COUNCILMAN, UM, SANDOVAL WAS TALKING ABOUT ASTHMA AND I KNOW WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT ASTHMA ESPECIALLY, UM, OUR M I H OUR MOBILE INTEGRATED HEALTH UNIT IS TRYING TO LOOK AT ASTHMA IN CHILDREN. BUT I'D LOVE TO A, IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO GATHER THAT DATA OF ASTHMA CASES WITH OUR SENIORS TOO IN, UM, THE CITY. IF YOU HAVE THAT DATA, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AS WELL. UM, JUST TO SEE THAT IMPACT, IF WE CAN GATHER IT. I HAD A TOUR OF MISSION TRAILS BAPTIST HOSPITAL, ONE OF THE HIGHEST EMERGENCY ROOMS, AND A LOT OF IT IS ASTHMA CASES FOR ADULTS AS TOO. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE CAN GATHER THAT DATA. 'CAUSE THERE IS TO FIND THOSE, THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THERE. YEAH. AND PROBABLY WHAT I WILL GIVE YOU IS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE VIEW OF RESPIRATORY OKAY. ADMISSIONS TO HOSPITALS. OKAY. AND THEN WE CAN PARSE IT OUT BY REASON. OKAY. UM, BECAUSE WHILE IT STILL OCCURS IN ADULTHOOD, IT IS MUCH MORE COMMON IN CHILDHOOD. SURE. UM, BUT ADULTS HAVE AS MANY RESPIRATORY CONCERNS SURE. IF NOT MORE SO THAN KIDS. IT'S JUST CALLED SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT. ABSOLUTELY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND, AND, UM, FINALLY, DOUG, I THINK, UM, MOVING FORWARD, YES. I'M, I'M GLAD THIS IS A VERY GOOD VALUE TREND SLIDE FOR US TO HAVE BECAUSE IT, IT DOES SHOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN MAKING ADJUSTMENTS AND THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE AND, UH, WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS. BUT THIS IS NOT WHERE IT, THIS IS NOT OUR BOTTOM LINE. THIS IS NOT WHERE IT ENDS BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT THE MILLION ARE COMING HERE. IT WOULD, AND WE DO KNOW IT'S GOING TO GO UP IF WE DON'T DO AND PUT SOME VERY GOOD STANDARDS AND POLICY PRACTICES IN PLACE NOW. CORRECT. WE CAN'T JUST SETTLE AND SIT ON THE STATUS QUO. WE NEED TO BE MAKING THE STEPS FORWARD SO WHEN WE DO INVITE THE MILLION PEOPLE IN, WE COULD GO EVEN LOWER THAN THAT. SO IT'S JUST NOT A MATTER OF FIXING IT HERE AND NOTHING ELSE, NO OTHER VARIABLES ARE GONNA CHANGE, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ALL THOSE VARIABLES. SO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, YOU'RE DOING THAT WE'RE DOING TOGETHER. THAT'S ALL. MAYOR, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN VERON. COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. THANK YOU. UH, MAYOR, [01:20:01] I PROMISE I WON'T BE LONG THIS TIME. UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UM, WITH THE CLEAN AIR PLAN, SORRY, THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN, WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF STAKEHOLDERS INVOLVED IN THAT. AND I THINK THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS THAT WE'RE COMING IN EARLY, WE'RE NOT BEING MANDATED BY THE FEDS TO DO THIS. SO WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF IN CHARGE AND WE CAN CHOOSE THE WIN-WIN, UH, SOLUTIONS. RIGHT. UM, SO TO, TO COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE'S POINT, I THINK WE WANNA BE VIGILANT THAT THE CHOICES THAT WE MAKE ARE, ARE WINS FOR, ARE BENEFICIAL TO OUR BUSINESSES TO SOME EXTENT, AND ALSO TO QUALITY OF LIFE. LIKE THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE QUALITY OF LIFE. UM, WHEN YOU REDUCE POLLUTION, I MEAN, PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE BETTER. WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, X FEWER DEATHS. SO I, I THINK THERE'S A, THERE'S A POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR, FOR THIS. LIKE YOU WERE, LIKE YOU WERE STATING. AND UM, ALSO TO COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE'S POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOCAL CONTROL, AND LET'S REMEMBER IF 30% OF THE POLLUTION IS COMING FROM HERE, FROM OUR AREA, WE ONLY NEED TO REDUCE TWO TO 3%. RIGHT. SO WE DON'T, LET'S NOT BE OVERWHELMED BY THE 60%. THAT'S, THAT'S BACKGROUND. I THINK THERE, THIS IS MANAGEABLE. OTHER REGIONS HAVE DONE IT. WE'VE GOT THE BEST CITY MANAGER IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY. SO WHY CAN'T WE, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT TOO? SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TRY TO END ON A POSITIVE NOTE TOO. MAYOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. I THINK THAT IS EVERYONE FOR TODAY'S ITEM. UM, THE TIME [Executive Session] NOW IS THREE 30 ON THIS FOURTH DAY OF OCTOBER, 2017. AND PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY CHAPTER 5 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE V T C S, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE, LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY, THE APPOINTMENT, EMPLOYMENT EVALUATION, REASSIGNMENT DUTIES, DISCIPLINE OR DISMISSAL OF A PUBLIC OFFICER OR EMPLOYEE OR EMPLOYEE AND ANY RELATED LEGAL ISSUES PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT'S CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071. CONSULTATION WITH EMPLOYEE WITH ATTORNEY AND LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO A SETTLEMENT OFFER IN LITIGATION AGAINST THE CITY BY MILTON AND GLEASON PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071. CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.