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WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION OF OCTOBER THE 11TH, 2017.

COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVINO HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN COUNCIL.

COUNCIL MEMBER SALANO WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ IS ON HER WAY.

COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL.

COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS.

I'M HERE.

THANKS.

YES, HE'S JOINING US VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.

COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE.

BARELY.

AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE.

MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

UH, THANK YOU.

UH, LETICIA.

WE'LL GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY, BUT I HAVE A BRIEF ANNOUNCEMENT.

UM, THE BIRTHDAY BOY GOT FOUR FLU SHOTS, UM, AND I WAS JUST INFORMED THAT YESTERDAY WAS COUNCILMAN CLAYTON PERRY'S BIRTHDAY.

UH, THERE IS A CAKE HERE TODAY.

SO AS WE DO, UH, WE'LL START WITH SINGING.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO CLAYTON.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TO, ALL RIGHT.

I HOPE YOU SURVIVE YOUR FOUR FLU SHOTS, CLAYTON.

ABSOLUTELY.

FOUR FLU SHOTS OF 26.

YES, MA'AM.

26.

ALRIGHT, WELL,

[1. A Briefing regarding the historic renovation of City Hall including a proposed additional Americans with Disabilities Act accessibility entrance. [Peter Zanoni, Deputy City Manager; Mike Frisbie, Director, Transportation and Capital Improvements]]

WE HAVE A, A INTERESTING DISCUSSION ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.

UH, SO GO AHEAD AND KICK US OFF CHERYL.

HEY, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU.

AND TODAY'S BRIEFING IS ABOUT PROPOSED HISTORIC RENOVATIONS TO CITY HALL, A PLACE WHERE WE ALL SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME WORKING AND ALSO SERVES AS A HISTORICAL ICON FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, JUST A BIT OF CONTEXT, THIS ISN'T A PROJECT DISCUSSION, UH, IN AND OF ITSELF, BUT IS PART OF A LARGER PLAN THAT BEGAN FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN LOCAL BUSINESS LEADERS, DICK EVANS AND GRAHAM WESTON APPROACHED MAYOR CASTRO AND ME ABOUT A PROPOSAL TO WORK WITH THE CITY ON A PARTNERSHIP THAT WOULD RESULT IN A CONSOLIDATED CITY ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING AND DOWNTOWN'S FIRST NEW OFFICE TOWER IN MANY YEARS.

THAT CONVERSATION ULTIMATELY LED TO A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHAT WE REFER TO AS A P THREE AGREEMENT WITH FROST BANK, WESTERN URBAN DEVELOPMENT, AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

AND AS PART OF THE PRE P THREE'S DEVELOPMENT, A SPACE NEEDS ANALYSIS FOR THE CITY WAS CONDUCTED AS WELL AS A BUILDING ASSESSMENT AND APPRAISAL ON THE FROST TOWER AND A FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.

AND WE SPENT ABOUT A YEAR UNDERTAKING ALL OF THAT.

THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS EVALUATED SEVERAL FACTORS, INCLUDING LEASE PAYMENTS CURRENTLY MADE BY THE CITY FOR OFFICE SPACE.

SO, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE CITY HAD GROWN OVER THE YEARS, AND ALL OF OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES CANNOT BE LOCATED IN CITY HALL, IT'S TOO SMALL FOR THAT.

WE BEGAN, THE CITY BEGAN OVER THE DECADES LEASING SPACE IN MANY OTHER LOCATIONS.

SO WE LOOKED AT REVENUE FROM THE THIRD PARTY LEASES IN THE TOWER AS WELL, THE FROST TOWER.

THERE ARE SOME TENANTS IN THE BUILDING PARKING REVENUE FROM THE ADJACENT GARAGE AND THE INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAXES TO THE CITY AS A RESULT OF THE NEW FROST TOWER BEING CONSTRUCTED AND WHAT THEY WOULD PAY IN PROPERTY TAXES, UH, TO THE CITY AND ALL THE TAXING UNITS, AS WELL AS HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT WERE A PART OF THE AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE ARE ABLE TO ACHIEVE MORE HOUSING UNITS IN THE CENTER CITY AS A RESULT OF THIS P THREE AGREEMENT.

SO THE AGREEMENT PROVIDED FOR AMONG OTHER IMPROVEMENTS, CONSTRUCTION OF THE CLASS A OFFICE TOWER FOR FROST BANK, THE FIRST IN DOWNTOWN SINCE 1989, AND WE CAN SEE IT COMING OUT OF THE GROUND.

UH, THEY'RE UP SEVERAL FLOORS ALREADY.

UH, THE SALE OF THREE CITY OWNED PROPERTIES FOR CONSTRUCTION OF AT LEAST 265 HOUSING UNITS IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THE PURCHASE OF THE DOWNTOWN FROST BUILDING THAT WILL SERVE AS A CONSOLIDATED LOCATION FOR OUR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES OF THE CITY.

UH, FOLLOWING THE CITY'S PURCHASE OF THE FROST BANK BUILDING IN DECEMBER OF 2016, THE CITY HAS LEASED THE PROPERTY BACK TO FROST BANK TO OCCUPY DURING CONSTRUCTION OF THEIR NEW TOWER THAT BROKE GROUND IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR.

SO AS THE STEEL GOES UP ON THE NEW FROST TOWER, THE CITY IS PLANNING FOR THE MOVE INTO THE FROST EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH PROMISES TO BE A ONCE IN A GENERATION CHANGE FOR OUR CITY WORKFORCE, CONSOLIDATING MANY DEPARTMENTS INTO ONE BUILDING.

SO WE ARE BASICALLY CONVERTING WHAT

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WE'RE PAYING IN LEASE PAYMENTS IN OTHER LOCATIONS TO THE DEBT SERVICE TO PURCHASE THAT BUILDING.

YOU'LL RECALL THOSE OF YOU WHO SERVED ON THE COUNCIL WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS TO REALIGN AND RELOCATE THE CITY'S WORKFORCE.

RENOVATION OPTIONS ARE BEING PREPARED FOR BOTH THE CURRENT FROST BANK BUILDING AS WELL AS CITY HALL.

TODAY'S PRESENTATION IS GOING TO FOCUS ON THOSE OPTIONS AND HOW TO ADDRESS ONGOING MAINTENANCE ISSUES AT HISTORIC CITY HALL.

UH, AS YOU MAY KNOW, IT WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED IN 19, I'M SORRY, 1889.

UH, THE CITY HALL BUILDING IS OVER 125 YEARS.

OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME MINOR RENOVATIONS, UH, AND SYSTEM MAINTENANCE.

HOWEVER, THE BUILDING CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS WITH MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, WATER AND SEWER SYSTEMS, ONGOING EXAMPLES, AND WE'LL SHARE WITH YOU PICTURES TODAY.

AND SOME OF YOU KNOW THIS FIRSTHAND BECAUSE YOU'VE EXPERIENCED THIS IN SOME OF YOUR OWN OFFICES.

CONTINUED FLOODING WITHIN THE BUILDING AFTER EACH RAIN EVENT, PERIODIC SEWAGE BACKUPS, NON-FUNCTIONING ELEVATORS, H V A C AND ELECTRICAL ISSUES, AND DETERIORATING BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE, INCLUDING AGING WINDOW CA CASINGS, AND A CRUMBLING BUILDING FACADE.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO ON OUR HISTORIC ICONIC BUILDING.

WHILE WE COULD CONTINUE TO REPAIR THE BUILDING RATHER THAN UPGRADING OR RENOVATING, IT IS EVIDENT THAT THIS HISTORIC BUILDING AND ITS SYSTEMS ARE WELL BEYOND THEIR EXPECTED LIFESPAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THESE PROPOSED RENOVATIONS TO MAKE THE BUILDING MORE FUNCTIONAL AND UP TO DATE, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY AND DISCUSSED WITH THE COUNCIL A PROPOSAL, UH, TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL A D A ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING'S EAST SIDE.

IN SEPTEMBER OF 2016, THE GOVERNMENT GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE HEARD A COUNCIL CONSIDERATION REQUEST FROM COUNCILMAN TREVINO FOR AN IMPROVED ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE.

THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE ASKED STAFF TO CONSIDER DESIGN OPTIONS AS PART OF OUR STAFF RECOMMENDED OVERALL BUILDING ASSESSMENTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE LARGER ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE, RELOCATION EFFORT, COMMUNITY AND BUSINESS LEADERS, INCLUDING GORDON HARTMAN AND HARVEY NASIA.

WORKED WITH THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN INSTITUTE OF ARCHITECTS, UH, LED BY TORY CARLTON, AND I THINK I SAW SHE'S THERE.

TORI IS OVER THERE.

HI TORI.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS AFTERNOON AND COUNCILMAN TREVINO, UH, TO DEVELOP AND SELECT DESIGN OPTIONS FOR AN ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE.

SO AS WE WERE STUDYING THE BUILDING ITSELF, THE SPACE NEEDS ITS CONDITION, STRUCTURAL CONDITION, AS WELL AS MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND PLUMBING.

UM, THE DESIGN COMPETITION WAS GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

SO WE HAVE INCORPORATED THAT INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WILL BE PRESENTED THIS AFTERNOON.

GORDON HARTMAN COULDN'T BE HERE THIS AFTERNOON, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT HE WAS SUPPORTIVE WHEN I TALKED WITH HIM ABOUT INCORPORATING THOSE A D A IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE RENOVATION PLANS YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON.

SO WE ARE PROPOSING SIGNIFICANT WORK TO CITY HALL IN RESPONSE TO THE BUILDING ASSESSMENT THAT WE HAVE CONDUCTED AND THE A D A ACCESSIBLE ENTRANCE DESIGN COMPETITION.

AFTER CONSULTING WITH AN EXTERNAL ENGINEERING GROUP, WE RECOMMENDED A TEMPORARY, OR WE ARE GOING TO BE RECOMMENDING TO YOU A TEMPORARY RELOCATION OF THE OFFICES WITHIN THE BUILDING AS THE WORK IS BEING CONDUCTED.

AND WE'LL DISCUSS THOSE RELOCATION OPTIONS IN THIS PRESENTATION, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE RENOVATIONS TO PROCEED FASTER AND AT LOWER CONSTRUCTION COST, AS WELL AS LIMITING THE ANY NEGATIVE HEALTH IMPACT ON THOSE WHO WORK INSIDE THE BUILDING SINCE IT IS OLD AND HAS ASBESTOS AND MOLD AND OTHER CONDITIONS THAT ONCE EXPOSED, HAVE TO BE HANDLED VERY CAREFULLY.

SO THIS AFTERNOON WE HAVE A THREE-PART PRESENTATION.

UH, LORI HOUSTON, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER WHO WORKED ON THE P THREE AGREEMENT IS GOING TO JUST DISCUSS THE BASICS OF THAT AGREEMENT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THEN T C I DIRECTOR IN OUR CITY ENGINEER, MIKE FRISBEE, WILL PRESENT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE MAJOR REPAIRS AND UPGRADES TO SUSTAIN THE USE USAGE AND FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS HISTORICALLY PROMINENT FACILITY.

ALSO PRESENTING WILL BE BEN GOZA, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, REGARDING THE FINANCING OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO ASK LORI, UH, TO COME FORWARD AND TALK A BIT ABOUT THE P THREE PROJECT, AS WELL AS ITS TIMELINE, WHAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THAT AGREEMENT.

AND THEN WE'LL HEAR FROM MIKE FRISBEE AND, UH, FINALIZE WITH BEN GOEL ON THE FINANCING.

SO, LORI, GREAT, THANK

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YOU CHERYL.

AND GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IN JUNE OF 2014, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO RECEIVED AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL FROM WESTERN URBAN AND FROST BANK THAT WOULD RESULT A CONSOLIDATED OFFICE TOWER FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO NEW HOUSING UNITS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST NEW OFFICE TOWER IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO.

NOW, THAT UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL CAME TO THE CITY THROUGH OUR PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP GUIDELINES, THE P THREE GUIDELINES THAT ARE BASED UPON STATE LEGISLATION.

NOW, RECENTLY, THEY HAVE CHANGED LEGISLATION TO WHERE THEY NO LONGER CAN ALLOW A CITY TO ACCEPT AN UNSOLICITED PROPOSAL.

BUT AT THE TIME, THE LEGISLATION OUTLINED A PROCESS, A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS FOR A MUNICIPALITY TO RECEIVE, REVIEW AND ACCEPT A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP PROPOSAL.

AND THAT INCLUDED THE CITY TAKING THAT PROPOSAL AND POSTING IT ON THEIR WEBSITE AND SOLICITING DEVELOPERS TO MEET OR BEAT THAT PROPOSAL.

AND SO AFTER THE CITY POSTED ON THE WEBSITE SOLICITING DEVELOPERS, WE RECEIVED ONE COMPETING PROPOSAL, AND THEN WE WENT THROUGH A THOROUGH ANALYSIS TO LOOK AT THE COST BENEFIT OF BOTH OF THOSE PROPOSALS AND ULTIMATELY INITIATED NEGOTIATIONS WITH WESTON URBAN AND FROST BANK.

AND THAT WAS ALL CULMINATED IN AN AGREEMENT THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2015.

WHAT THE P THREE IS, IS THREE MAJOR COMPONENTS.

FIRST, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WOULD PURCHASE THE FROST BANK TOWER, AND THAT WOULD BE USED FOR THE CITY'S CONSOLIDATED OFFICES.

AS CHERYL MENTIONED, WE ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY, AND WE CURRENTLY PAY THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN LEASE PAYMENTS.

THIS CONSOLIDATED OFFICE TOWER IS SOMETHING THAT'S DESPERATELY NEEDED AND ALLOW US TO STREAMLINE OUR OPERATIONS AND CREATE MORE EFFICIENCIES WITHIN GOVERNMENT.

THE SECOND COMPONENT OF THE P THREE WAS FOR THE CITY TO SELL THREE PARCELS TO WESTERN URBAN.

AND THESE THREE PARCELS INCLUDED THE SAN FERNANDO GYM, WHICH IS ON THE CORNER OF SANTA ROSA AND PECAN A SMALL SURFACE PARKING LOT IN THE NORTHERN PART OF DOWNTOWN AND THE MUNICIPAL PLAZA BUILDING THIS BUILDING.

HOWEVER, IN THE SALE OF THIS BUILDING, THE CITY IS RETAINING THE B ROOM AND COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

NOW, THOSE THREE PROPERTIES WILL BE USED TO FACILITATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF 265 NEW HOUSING UNITS.

AND FINALLY, THE LAST COMPONENT OF THE P THREE, AND PROBABLY THE MOST EXCITING WAS THAT IT FACILITATED THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF THE FIRST NEW OFFICE TOWER IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO SINCE 1989.

AND IT HELPED US RETAIN ONE OF OUR OLDEST EMPLOYERS IN SAN ANTONIO, WHICH IS FROST BANK.

NOW, AFTER THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE MASTER DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN 2015, THE WORK REALLY JUST STARTED.

AND SO THE CITY AND ALONG WITH T C I AND OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT, HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR PARTNERS, WESTIN URBAN AND FROST BANK, ON SEVERAL COMPONENTS OF THIS PLAN.

AND WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MILESTONES ALREADY.

THE FIRST WAS IN 2016, IN DECEMBER OF 2016 WHEN THE CITY CLOSED ON THE FROST TOWER.

SO THE CITY CURRENTLY OWNS THE FROST TOWER AND THE PARKING GARAGE, BUT WE MASTER LEASE THE ENTIRE BUILDING BACK TO FROST BANK, AND THAT MASTER LEASE REMAINS INTO EFFECT UNTIL FROST BANK VACATES THE FROST TOWER INTO THEIR NEW HOME, WHICH WILL BE THE NEW TOWER ON THE CORNER OF FLORES AND HOUSTON.

NOW, ONE OTHER MILESTONE WE HIT WAS IN 2017 AND SPRING.

I BELIEVE SEVERAL OF YOU WERE THERE AT THAT EVENT WHERE WE BROKE GROUND ON THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW TOWER.

SO WESTERN URBAN BROKE GROUND.

AND THAT TOWER WILL REMAIN UNDER CONSTRUCTION THROUGH SPRING OF 2019.

ONCE THE TOWER IS CONSTRUCTED AND COMPLETED, THE OLD FRAS TOWER WILL BE VACATED.

AND SO FROST BANK WILL MOVE INTO THEIR NEW HOME, AND THAT'LL GIVE THE CITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO THE OLD TOWER AND DO MAJOR RENOVATIONS THROUGHOUT, ALLOWING THE CITY TO MOVE 1500 EMPLOYEES INTO THAT NEW FACILITY IN 2020.

NOW, TO PREPARE FOR THAT NEW MOVE, THE CITY'S HIRED FACILITY PLANNING CONSULTING TO DO SOME SPACE PLANNING TO REALLY LOOK AT SEVERAL THINGS.

ONE, HOW DO WE BECOME AN EMPLOYER OF CHOICE? WHAT AMENITIES DOES OUR NEW OFFICE TOWER NEED TO HAVE SO WE CAN RECRUIT AND RETAIN THE BRIGHTEST AND THE BEST? TWO, HOW CAN WE CREATE MORE EFFICIENCIES WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION? AND SO WE INTERVIEWED EVERY DEPARTMENT THAT WAS GOING TO GO INTO THE NEW TOWER AND ASK THEM SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR, THEIR SPACE NEEDS, THEIR OFFICE NEEDS, HOW THEY OPERATE, WHAT DEPARTMENTS THEY WORK WITH, SO WE CAN IDENTIFY CO-LOCATION OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO AS A RESULT

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OF THAT EXERCISE, WE SHOULD BE COMPLETING THE NEXT COMING MONTHS THAT'LL HELP US WITH OUR PROGRAM PLAN FOR THE TOWER.

BUT YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE, WE HAVE 22 DEPARTMENTS AND ALMOST 1500 EMPLOYEES MOVING INTO THE TOWER IN 2020, WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR THAT STREAMLINING AND EFFICIENCY THAT WE SO NEED.

AND THEN ALSO OTHER AMENITIES LIKE A WELLNESS CENTER AND A GYM AND A CAFETERIA THAT WE ALL REALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, AND IT WOULD HELP US RECRUIT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES.

WE ALSO USE THAT SAME CONSULTANT TO HELP US WITH THE NEXT PROJECT YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR ABOUT FROM MIKE FRISBEE, WHICH IS A CITY HALL RENOVATION PROJECT, BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE THE TWO TOWERS OR THE TWO FACILITIES THAT WILL HAVE MOST OF OUR EMPLOYEES IN DOWNTOWN CITY HALL AND THE OLD FROST BANK TOWER.

AND SO TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT PROJECT, MIKE FRISBEE'S GOING TO PRESENT.

THANK YOU, LORI.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, YEAH, BEFORE WE, UH, GET INTO THE, THE CITY HALL STATUS, UH, CONDITIONS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOING ON BACK IN 128 YEARS AGO WHEN CITY HALL WAS BUILT, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE A COUPLE THINGS JUST TO PUT IN CONTEXT.

A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE DEALING WITH FACILITIES THAT ARE 50 YEARS OLD, BUT A FACILITY THAT IS ALMOST 130 YEARS OLD, UH, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT STORY.

SO, UM, A COUPLE THINGS HERE, A COUPLE TIDBITS.

UH, THE RAILROAD STARTED ABOUT THAT TIME OPERATING IN SAN ANTONIO.

UH, THOMAS EDISON PATENTED AND BEGAN COMMERCIALIZING INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULBS.

THAT'S GOING BACK A WAYS.

UM, YOU REMEMBER THAT.

YOU, YOU, YOU EXPERIENCED IT.

OKAY, UH, 1889, UH, BAYER INTRODUCED ASPIRIN, WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL OVER THE YEARS.

UH, IT WAS FIRST IN GERMANY, THEN CAME ACROSS TO THE UNITED STATES.

UH, A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, HAPPENED.

UH, US ARMY FORT SAM HOUSTON WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1865.

SIMILAR ERA FROST BANK, 1868.

SO QUITE THE HISTORY THERE.

AND, UH, IN 1880, OUR POPULATION HERE OF SAN ANTONIO WAS 37,673.

SO, UH, QUITE A DIFFERENT SITUATION BACK THEN, BUT VIRTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IN A LOT OF WAYS THE SAME FACILITY.

AND I'LL SHARE, UH, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENED SINCE THEN.

SO THE ORIGINAL, YOU KNOW, UH, MONEY HAD A LITTLE DIFFERENT VALUE BACK THEN AS WELL.

SO THE INITIAL THREE STORIES CITY HALL WAS, WAS BUILT FOR $200,000.

SO $200,000 BACK IN, UH, 1889.

AND IN 1927, A FOURTH FLOOR WAS PUT ON THE, THE FACILITY AT A TOTAL COST OF 250,000.

SO, UH, THAT WAS THE VALUE BACK THEN.

NOW, IF YOU TAKE ALL THE INVESTMENT OF THE CITY, SINCE THIS, UH, FACILITY WAS BUILT IN THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS, IT TOTALS ABOUT $6 MILLION.

6 MILLION.

SO, NEEDLESS TO SAY, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES OVER THERE.

TODAY, WE'RE GONNA KIND OF PULL THE CURTAIN BACK AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU, YOU SEE A LOT OF THE SYMPTOMS BECAUSE YOU OFFICE OVER THERE.

BUT WE'RE GONNA SHOW YOU A LOT MORE DETAIL HERE, UH, OF THE FACILITY CONDITIONS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE VARIETY OF, OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

I WANT TO RECOGNIZE JORGE PEREZ, THE DIRECTOR OF BUILDING EQUIPMENT SERVICES OVER HERE, JORGE AND HIS TEAM, UH, THEY, THEY, UH, MAINTAIN, UH, 40 FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF PATCHING, FIXING ALL OVER CITY HALL.

UH, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE FACILITY ASSESSMENT THAT SHOWS VIRTUALLY EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF THAT FACILITY HAS PROBLEMS, OKAY? EVERY SYSTEM, EVERY F YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S THE INTERIOR EXTERIOR OF THE SYSTEMS. AND JORGE AND HIS TEAM KEEP IT RUNNING AS BEST AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY A LOT OF BAND-AIDS, UH, GOING ON ACROSS THE STREET.

OKAY? SO WE DID HAVE, AS CHERYL MENTIONED, LAST, UH, LAST YEAR, WE HAD MULTIPLE PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERTS COME IN AND DO A FACILITY ASSESSMENT.

UH, EXTERIOR CONDITION, MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, STRUCTURAL FIRE PROTECTION, UH, THE STORM DRAINAGE ISSUES, THE STATEMENT, UH, BY THOSE EXPERTS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SLIDE KIND OF SUMS IT UP.

CITY HALL BUILDING CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS WITH MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING, AND SEWER SYSTEMS, FLOODING IN LOWER LEVELS AND EXTENSIVE EXTERIOR ISSUES, INCLUDING AGING AND CRUMBLING FACADE, INCLUDING DETERIORATING WINDOW CASINGS.

SO, UH, VERY COMPREHENSIVE PROBLEM.

SO FIRST, LET'S GET INTO THE, UH, MECHANICAL, UH, ISSUES HERE.

SO ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THIS FACILITY IS OVER THE YEARS, IT HAS JUST BECOME MORE AND MORE POROUS, MEANING THERE'S WATER COMING IN EVERYWHERE, UH, IN THIS FACILITY, UH, BECAUSE OF THE AGE AND SO FORTH.

SO WHEN IT, WHEN IT

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RAINS, UM, DIFFERENT ANGLES OF RAIN AND SO FORTH, IT LEAKS AND YOU SEE THAT IT COMES INTO OFFICES.

UH, JORGE FIXES HIS TEAM, GETS THOSE FIXED NEXT RAIN, IT COMES BACK AGAIN.

THE WATER TRAVELS IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT IT PENETRATES ALL THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

AND SO IN THIS CASE, THE MECHANICAL ROOMS, THERE'S MILDEW THAT'S IN THERE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE GREEN MILDEW IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND PICTURE.

WE'VE GOT, UH, UH, PUMPS THAT ARE DEFINITELY AGING, NEED TO BE REPLACED.

UH, THEY'VE DONE SOME, UH, SOME OF THOSE FIXES.

THAT LOWER LEFT HAND PICTURE SHOWS SOME PIPING REPLACEMENTS.

THEY REPLACE THE OLD, UH, DUCTILE IRON TYPE PIPES THAT ARE DETERIORATED WITH, UH, P V C PIPES HERE AND THERE TO GET IT, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET BY.

AND OF COURSE, THE H V A C SYSTEM, UH, COMPLETELY NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.

I UNDERSTAND LAST WEEK, UH, H V A C WAS OUT IN THE FACILITY, UH, FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

SO, UH, DEFINITELY THAT H V A C SYSTEM THAT WENT IN BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, IT'S, UH, PASSED ITS USEFUL LIFE, UH, AS A WHOLE.

OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO, UH, ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING.

UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE UPPER LEFT HAND PICTURE THERE KIND OF SUMS UP A LITTLE BIT.

THAT'S 1960S VINTAGE ELECTRICAL RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S FUSE BOXES.

UH, SOME OF US REMEMBER, UH, THOSE, THOSE, UH, TIMES WITH THOSE OLD FUSE BOXES.

UM, SO THAT STILL EXISTS TODAY.

UH, THERE'S SOME PIPING, UH, P V C WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE TO REPLACE PIECES HERE AND THERE.

THAT, THAT UPPER MIDDLE PICTURE SHOWS SOME P V SITE, P V C PIPE TO REPLACE THE, BASICALLY THE DETERIORATED SEWER PIPES.

UM, THAT LOWER LEFT HAND PICTURE IS A CORRODED CAST IRON PIPE FOR A FACILITY DRAINAGE.

YOU CAN, I MEAN, TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THAT.

THAT'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY REPLACED, BUT THAT'S THE CONDITION OF THE PLUMBING THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

SO IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY SECTION BY SECTION THAT WE'RE, THAT JORGE'S TEAM'S ADDRESSING AS IT AS IT BECOMES A PROBLEM.

BUT THE WHOLE NETWORK IS, IS THAT WAY, UH, IN THE LOWER, UH, RIGHT HAND CORNER.

WHAT HAPPENED, I WAS TALKING TO, TO JORGE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THESE, THIS WORK THAT WAS DONE IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.

AND, UH, YOU THAT THIS WORK THAT WAS DONE LEFT, BASICALLY HOLES IN THE FACILITY.

THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME FIRE PROTECTION BARRIERS FROM FLOOR TO FLOOR.

UM, AND THAT'S NOT, UH, NOW HE'S GOING BACK AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT HAPPENS.

BUT A LOT OF THAT, UH, REWORK THAT WAS DONE BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES.

THEY DIDN'T TAKE THOSE KINDS OF PRECAUTIONS.

THEY BASICALLY JUST OPENED UP A, A FLOOR AND A CEILING AND PUT THE UTILITIES THROUGH AND, AND THAT WAS ABOUT IT.

THEY DIDN'T REALLY DO IT PROPERLY AND SEAL IT PROPERLY IN THE END.

SO THE, THE PLUMBING ITSELF, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM, UM, THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE AS-BUILT AS TO WHEN IT WENT IN.

WE KNOW IT'S OVER 50 YEARS OLD, THE PLUMBING NETWORK THERE.

UM, THE OTHER, WE KNOW THAT THE ELEVATORS, UH, THE ELEVATOR SYSTEM, UM, WENT IN PROBABLY IN THE 1940S, FIFTIES TIMEFRAME.

THERE'S BEEN SOME REFURBISHMENT OF THE CABS SINCE THEN.

BUT THE ACTUAL, UH, NUTS AND BOLTS THERE IS, IS 1940S, FIFTIES, UH, VINTAGE.

THE EXTERIOR CONDITION, SOMETIMES THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE OBVIOUS.

UM, WE HAVE, OF COURSE A LOT OF CRACKING ON THE FRONT STEPS THAT, THAT YOU SEE EVERY DAY.

UM, WE HAVE HAD SOME OF THE EXTERIOR, UM, WORK FALL OFF OF THE BUILDING.

YOU KNOW, THAT UPPER RIGHT HAND, UH, PICTURE, THE CRACKED FACADE THERE.

WE HAD PIECES OF LIMESTONE COME OFF OF THE BUILDING.

UM, YOU CAN SEE THE LOWER LEFT HAND PICTURES LOOKING DOWN IN WHAT WE CALL THE MOAT, THE, THE BASEMENT AREA AROUND.

AND THAT DETERIORATED, UH, LIMESTONE.

AND OF COURSE, THE WINDOW CASINGS, UM, ARE VERY MUCH, UM, AGED, VERY MUCH HISTORIC, NEED TO BE, UH, REDONE, REPLACED, AND SO FORTH.

OF COURSE, A LOT OF THE WINDOWS ARE HISTORIC.

SO WE WOULD WORK THROUGH A PROCESS THERE TO MAKE SURE WE, WE COMPLY WITH ALL THE HISTORIC PRACTICES ON ANY PROJECT THAT HAPPENED.

A COUPLE OTHER THINGS ON THE INTERIOR.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT STANFORD BANNER IS UP THERE, BUT I DUNNO WHO THAT IS.

BUT, UH, HE'S NOT HERE TODAY.

SO, UH, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IN YOUR OFFICES IS YOU SEE IN THOSE TWO RIGHT-HAND CORNER, UH, OR TWO RIGHT HAND PICTURES THERE, YOU SEE THE, THE WALL DETERIORATION FROM THE MOISTURE.

AND THEN, UH, JORGE'S TEAM AND BUILDING EQUIPMENT SERVICES, THEY GO FIX THAT, AND THEY FIND, THEY TRY TO FIND THE SOURCE OF WHERE THAT WATER'S COMING FROM, FIX THAT, AND THEN THE NEXT RAIN, IT COMES BACK AGAIN.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE WATER IS, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, TRAVELS IN

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LOTS OF WAYS.

WHEN IT ENTERS DEPENDENT ON THE WIND AND THE RAIN, IT COMES INTO A FACILITY AND RUNS AND ENDS UP IN THOSE SPOTS AGAIN.

AND SO IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING.

BUT THAT IS THE NATURE OF THIS BUILDING.

IT'S, IT'S COMPLETELY THE ENTIRE BUILDING, UH, IS GONNA HAVE ISSUES LIKE THIS AS IT CONTINUES.

UH, THE, THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THERE IS REALLY A KIND OF A PREPARATION FOR HURRICANE HARVEY.

IF IT HAD BEEN A BIGGER STORM IN SAN ANTONIO, OBVIOUSLY WE'D HAVE HAD CITYWIDE ISSUES.

AND THIS, THIS BUILDING WOULD'VE BEEN IN ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE SHAPE.

UH, IT WAS KIND OF A MAKESHIFT KNOWING THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE SOME, SOME FLOODING IN CITY HALL ANTICIPATION, TRYING TO MAKE THINGS WORK, UH, UH, AS BEST WE COULD.

OKAY, SO THE RECOMMENDED REPAIRS AND REQUIRED UPGRADES, UH, IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIVE.

NEW MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL PLUMBING SYSTEMS, UH, REPLACING THE H V A C SYSTEMS, NEW ELEVATORS, IMPROVE THE FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM.

UH, EXTERIOR MASONRY REPAIR, BASICALLY EXTERIOR SEALANT OF THE BUILDING TO MAKE IT WEATHERIZED.

IT'S A WEATHERIZATION OF THE EXTERIOR, UH, NEW AND REFURBISHED, UH, WINDOWS, UH, AND ENTRANCES, EXTERIOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM AS WELL.

A LOT OF THAT, UH, LANDSCAPING IS DRAINING TOWARDS THE BUILDING INSTEAD OF AWAY.

AND, UH, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, VIRTUALLY EVERY SQUARE FOOT OF THE FACILITY NEEDS, UH, WORK.

NOW WE DO A THIRD, WE HAVE A THIRD PARTY ESTIMATOR, PRIVATE CONSULTANT WORKS WITH US ON THAT.

ALL OF THESE ELEMENTS, UH, FOR THE PROJECT, WE'RE LOOKING AT A $34.6 MILLION PROJECT.

IT'S A BIG PROJECT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S A IMPORTANT FACILITY.

AND AS WE DO THE PROJECT, THEN WE'D ACTUALLY REPROGRAM THE SPACE TO MAKE IT MUCH MORE SUITABLE FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THERE.

SO I'LL DESCRIBE THAT RIGHT NOW.

AS YOU KNOW, UH, YOU LIVE IT EVERY DAY.

UH, THE SPACE FOR MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, IS PRETTY DYSFUNCTIONAL, UH, THAT, THAT FOURTH FLOOR IS VERY DYSFUNCTIONAL FLOOR AS FAR AS SPACE.

NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE VERY, YOU GUYS ARE, YOU GUYS ARE EXTREMELY FUNCTIONAL, BUT THE SPACE, THE SPACE IS A DETERRENT.

, WOW, GOOD THING I CORRECTED THAT ONE.

UM, SO, UH, THE IDEA HERE WOULD BE TO MAKE THIS MUCH BETTER FOR THE PUBLIC TOO, AS THEY COME, IF WE START AT THE BOTTOM, WE, WE SET UP THE BASEMENT FOR CONFERENCE ROOMS, UH, POTENTIALLY SOME SHOWER FACILITIES IN THE BASEMENT, BUT THEN THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL, UH, ENTRANCES, SECURITY MEDIA, CONFERENCE ROOMS, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS ROOMS. SO PUBLIC COULD COME THERE, THERE'D BE SPACE TO MEET.

UM, YOU ALL COULD COME DOWN AND HAVE MEETINGS THERE ON THAT FIRST FLOOR IF YOU WANTED, UH, WITH CONFERENCE ROOMS. BUT, UM, THEN YOU GO TO THE SECOND LEVEL FOR A SECURE SPACE FOR THE MAYOR, CITY MANAGER, CITY ATTORNEY, CITY CLERK, AND THEN THE TWO LEVELS, THEN FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THEIR STAFF.

SO INSTEAD OF YOU ALL BEING CRAMMED IN TO THE FOURTH LEVEL, THERE'D BE TWO FULL LEVELS, UH, FOR YOU.

AND I'LL SHOW THAT TO YOU.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS THE EXISTING, YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.

I STILL DUNNO HOW TO FIND YOU GUYS UP THERE, UH, HALF THE TIME.

IT'S VERY, VERY TRICKY.

BUT ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S UNEQUAL SPACE.

SO REELECTION TIME, UH, SENIORITY POLLS, EVERYBODY MOVES.

UH, BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY THAN THAT IS CONFIDENTIALITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR STAFF IS OUT WITH OPEN CUBICLES.

EVERYBODY CAN HEAR EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON.

UM, YOU DON'T HAVE SUITES IN A, AS A, AS A DISTRICT.

AND SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

SO, THE SUITE CONCEPT HERE, THIS IS JUST A ONE CORNER OF THE BUILDING.

SO YOU'D HAVE FIVE SUITES, FIVE DISTRICTS ON THE THIRD FLOOR, AND FIVE DISTRICTS ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.

SO YOU'D HAVE PLENTY OF SPACE FOR, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW YOU'RE COMPETING FOR CONFERENCE ROOMS. YOU'D HAVE PLENTY OF CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE.

UM, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE A SUITE.

SO BASICALLY FROM THE, KIND OF THE COMMON HALLWAY AT, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE, IF THIS IS ONE CORNER OF THE, OF THE FLOOR PLAN, AND YOU'D COME IN AND YOU'D HAVE YOUR, UH, STAFF THERE BEHIND.

IT COULD BE A, A GLASS WALL, YOU KNOW, SO YOU CAN SEE IN AND OUT, BUT THERE'S PRIVACY THERE.

AND THEN YOUR OFFICE IS A COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, SHOWN IN THE GREEN, IN THE UPPER AREA.

THIS IS, OF COURSE, JUST A, A CONCEPT AT THIS POINT, BUT THE IDEA IS YOU HAVE A, A, YOU KNOW, A SOUNDPROOF CLOSED AREA FOR YOU AND YOUR TEAM TO BE IN CITY HALL.

AND, UH, AND THEN PLENTY OF, OF GATHERING SPACE FOR CONFERENCE ROOMS AND SO FORTH THERE.

SO THAT'S MUCH MORE MODERN STYLE, MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT.

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SO, UH, HOW DO WE GET THIS SPACE OUT OF THIS FACILITY? SO CURRENTLY THERE'S 143, UH, PERSONNEL IN THE CITY HALL, AND WE END UP WITH THE PROGRAM 91 STAY.

SO WE'RE GO FROM 143 TO 91.

SO REALLY, REALLY MAKING CITY HALL TWO LEVELS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, UH, OR CITY COUNCIL, AND THEN CITY MANAGEMENT MAYOR ON THE SECOND LEVEL, AND THEN MORE PUBLIC SPACE REALLY ON THE FIRST LEVEL IN BASEMENT ACCESS.

OKAY.

UH, AS CHERYL MENTIONED, OF COURSE, WE'VE HAD A, A PROCESS THAT COUNCILMAN TREVINO LED WITH A I A AND SO FORTH ON THE, UH, EQUAL ACCESSIBILITY OF THE FACILITY.

WE KNOW THAT TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE A, IT IS A D A ACCESSIBLE, YOU'VE GOT A D A ACCESS TECHNICALLY ON THE WEST SIDE, BUT IT'S, IT'S TAKES IT TO THE BASEMENT.

IT'S PRETTY CUMBERSOME.

SO, UM, THIS, THIS PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UH, COUNCILMAN AND A, I A HAD, UH, 22, UH, DESIGNS SUBMITTED.

UH, ANY PROJECT THAT HAPPENS HERE, WE'D WANT TO INCORPORATE THIS IN TO THE PROJECT.

UM, AND, UH, THERE WAS A JURY THAT SELECTED A WINNER THROUGH THAT CONTEST, BUT IT'S REALLY UP TO THE CITY.

THERE'S, THERE'S 22 GOOD OPTIONS TO LOOK AT.

AND THEN THE ACTUAL DESIGN THAT'S SELECTED WOULD BE A, A CITY, UH, DECISION.

ULTIMATELY.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT ONE, BUT THAT IS, UH, THAT DESIGN IS A GREAT DESIGN, UH, FOR THAT EXTERIOR WORK.

THE ONE THING THAT, UH, HASN'T BEEN TAKEN INTO, INTO ACCOUNT IS ALONG THAT EAST, UH, LAWN THERE.

ALONG FLORES, WE KNOW, UH, THERE'S AT LEAST 10 UTILITY LINES ALONG THAT FRONTAGE THAT GO TO FLORES, AND MANY OF 'EM CROSS FLORES STREET.

SO RIGHT OUT HERE, UH, YOU'VE GOT WATER, SEWER, UH, MULTIPLE TYPES OF POWER, TELECOM, UH, GAS, EVERYTHING IS OUT THERE.

SO, AND, AND A LOT OF IT'S VERY OLD.

UH, SOME OF IT'S MORE NEW, BUT ANY, ANY KIND OF WORK THAT WE DO OUT THERE, WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE UTILITIES TO, YOU KNOW, UPGRADE, REALIGN AND SO FORTH WITH, WITH THE PROJECT.

SO THAT'S A ESTIMATED $3.4 MILLION FOR THE ACCESSIBILITY WORK.

THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE UTILITY, UH, END OF THINGS THERE.

SO, JUST A QUICK SUMMARY ON THE, ON THE BUILDING ISSUES.

UH, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO EXPERIENCE, UH, MAJOR ISSUES ALL THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.

UM, THAT UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS THE BASEMENT, UH, FLOODED OUT.

SO ANY KIND OF RAIN, IT FLOODS.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE WATER ON THE TILE FLOOR THERE.

UH, THE SEWER BACKS UP.

UH, WE'VE GOT, OF COURSE, THE AGING CRUMBLING FACADE AND, UH, THE DETERIORATION OF THE INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR TREATMENT.

AND THE LOWER RIGHT IS THE SEWAGE PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD AS WELL.

AND H V A C AND ELECTRIC AND, UH, ELEVATOR.

OKAY? SO THE RECOMMENDATION IS WE COMBINE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EQUAL ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT WITH THE TOTAL RENOVATION PROJECT, DO IT ONCE.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE EFFICIENT THAT WAY.

IT'S GONNA BE MORE COST EFFECTIVE THAT WAY.

UM, IT IS ALL TOTAL, IT'S A $38 MILLION PROJECT, AND THAT'S ESTIMATED ALL IN, EVERYTHING IN IS PART OF THAT WITH THIRD PARTY ESTIMATORS WORKING WITH US ON THAT.

WE HAVE, UH, AGAIN, THE TIMELINESS IS IMPORTANT, UM, AND EFFICIENCIES OF DOING IT ALL TOGETHER.

THE DELIVERY METHOD THAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND WOULD BE A DESIGN BUILD DELIVERY METHOD WHERE YOU HAVE ONE TEAM, THE CONTRACTOR AND THE ARCHITECT TEAM TOGETHER WORKING ESPECIALLY ON A COMPLICATED, UH, HISTORIC BUILDING LIKE THIS.

IT PROVIDES A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY, UH, WITH THAT EXPERT TEAM.

UH, BY STATE LAW, IT'S A TWO STEP PROCESS.

WE'RE DO A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.

WE, WE HAVE TEAMS SUBMIT, WE SHORTLIST TO TYPICALLY, UH, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE TEAMS. AND THEN WE DO A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, WHICH HAS SOME PRICE COMPONENTS AND OTHER FACTORS IN IT AS WELL.

AND THEN, UH, WE WOULD COME TO CITY COUNCIL FOR A RECOMMENDATION OR FOR APPROVAL, UH, OF A DESIGN BUILD TEAM.

NOW, THERE'S NO GOOD TIME TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS, RIGHT? THERE'S NO GOOD TIME.

SO WE HAVE TRICENTENNIAL COMING UP, BUT HERE'S SOME OF THE MAJOR, UH, OR THE MAJOR EVENTS PLANNED FOR TRICENTENNIAL, UH, NEW YEAR'S EVE CELEBRATION 300 FESTIVAL AND CONCERT, OF COURSE, NEW YEAR'S EVE, UH, FIESTA IN MAY OF, MAY OF NEXT YEAR, THE TRICENTENNIAL COMMEMORATIVE WEEK, UH, THE KING AND QUEEN OF SPAIN COMING IN JUNE.

SO THEN, UM, THOSE ARE THE BIG, BIG EVENTS.

AND, UH, THEN THIS WOULD ALLOW THE

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PROJECT TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, AFTER THAT TIME.

OKAY, SO A LITTLE MORE DETAILED SCHEDULE.

UM, THE IDEA AFTER TODAY WOULD GO START THAT R F Q REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS PROCESS, WHICH OF COURSE STARTS WITH THAT HIGH PROFILE AUDIT COMMITTEE.

AND GO THROUGH THAT, THAT PROCESS, COME BACK TO CITY COUNCIL IN THE APRIL TIMEFRAME FOR THE DESIGN, BUILD TEAM APPROVAL, UH, START THE HISTORIC, UH, PRESERVATION REVIEW AND APPROVAL PROCESS WITH THAT TEAM.

AND THEN IT'S IN AUGUST, IT WOULD BE THE RELOCATION.

SO, UM, AND I'M GONNA SHOW YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION IS, UH, COULD WE DO THIS PROJECT WITH EVERYBODY STILL THERE? AND SO , NOW YOU ALL AREN'T, YOU'RE NOT HIGH MAINTENANCE OR ANYTHING, SO, UH, BUT, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU A SLIDE THAT, THAT MAYBE WOULD, WOULD SAY, I DON'T WANT TO BE IN THIS BUILDING WHILE, UH, THIS IS GOING ON.

UM, YEAH, WORK FROM HOME TELECOMMUTE.

UM, AND SO WE'D START CONSTRUCTION IN SEPTEMBER, AND THEN, UH, IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT, IT'D BE, IT'D BE OUTTA CITY HALL FOR ABOUT A 15 MONTH PERIOD AND THEN COME BACK IN, UH, IN A COMPLETELY REWORKED, UH, FACILITY THAT WOULD BE MUCH MORE FUNCTIONAL.

SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE WOULD YOU, WHERE WOULD YOU ALL GO? SO, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAZA ARM IS A GOOD OPTION.

IT'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY RECENTLY RENOVATED, AND, UH, THAT COULD BE A GOOD OPTION.

AND, UH, FROST BANK'S ALSO AN OPTION.

OBVIOUSLY, WE'D EXPLORE THAT IN A LOT MORE DETAIL AS FAR AS SPACE AND, AND ACCOMMODATIONS.

SO THAT ALTERNATIVE IS WHAT IF, WHAT IF PEOPLE STAYED? EVERYBODY STAYED IN CITY HALL AND WE TRIED TO DO THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, REALLY, IT JUST WOULDN'T BE SAFE.

UM, WE KNOW THAT IN THREE OF THE FLOORS, UH, THERE IS ASBESTOS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF.

UH, WE'VE GOT IT.

IT'S, IT'S IN THE, UH, INSULATION, IT'S IN THE, UH, TILE THAT MASICK THAT ADHESIVE BETWEEN THE TILES AND THE FLOORING.

UM, THE, UH, SINK UNDERCOATING MATERIALS HAS ASBESTOS IN IT, SO SHEET ROCK.

SO BACK IN THOSE AREAS, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WAS USED.

AND SO, UH, IF WE'RE IN THERE DOING A LOT OF DEMOLITION, YOU GOT A LOT OF DUST GOING ON, YOU GOT TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF NOISE GOING ON.

IF THERE, THERE'S REALLY NO GOOD WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME SEE YOU IN THERE.

UH, IT'S JUST GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT'S SUCH AN EXTENSIVE, UH, PROJECT.

OKAY.

SO IN SUMMARY, UH, RECOMMENDATION IS TO DO THE WHOLE PROJECT 38 MILLION AND INCLUDE THE, THE EQUAL ACCESSIBILITY ELEMENT ON THE, ON THE EAST END, OH, RIGHT HERE, THAT, THAT'S IN VIEW OF US HERE.

UH, DO THE FULL RENOVATION AND DO THE RELOCATION OF, UH, THE OCCUPANTS IN, INTO A GOOD SPACE, A GOOD FUNCTIONAL SPACE UNTIL THE PROJECT'S COMPLETE.

NOW, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S NO GOOD TIME TO DO A PROJECT LIKE THIS, UH, BUT THERE'S NO BETTER TIME THAN NOW TO START IT.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, YOU LIKE THAT COUNCILWOMAN? UH, THERE'S NO BETTER TIME THAN NOW, BECAUSE EVERY YEAR PRICING'S GOING UP SIX TO 10%.

SO WE, WE NEED TO DO THIS PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY, IF WE CAN.

IF WE WAIT ON IT, WE'RE TALKING TWO TO 4 MILLION MORE EVERY YEAR.

WE LOOK AT THIS THING.

SO, UH, JORGE CAN CONTINUE TO BANDAID, IT'S JUST GONNA GET WORSE AND WORSE.

SO REALLY, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT.

AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE BEN COME UP AND SHARE THE FINANCIAL PIECE.

BEN SOAR.

AND COUNCIL, JUST TO WRAP UP, UH, REAL BRIEFLY HERE ON FUNDING AND FINANCING FOR THE PROJECT.

I'LL START WITH THE FROST, WHAT WE CALL THE P THREE PROJECT.

UM, YOU HEARD CHERYL AND LORI DESCRIBE THAT THAT'S THE ACQUISITION OF THE EXISTING FROST TOWER AND THE RENOVATION OF THAT BUILDING.

THAT PROJECT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR ITSELF.

WE DID A KIND OF A 30 YEAR CASH FLOW ANALYSIS OF, OF LOOKING AT WHERE WE HAVE LEASED OFFICE SPACE TODAY, UM, HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING ON OUR EXISTING BUILDINGS, AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IF WE ACQUIRE, ACQUIRE THE FROST BUILDING AND THEN RENOVATE THAT BUILDING.

WE ALSO EXPECT TO GET SOME EFFICIENCIES OUTTA MOVING INTO THAT BUILDING.

THE 1400, 1500 EMPLOYEES THAT WILL BE MOVING INTO THAT BUILDING ARE IN DIFFERENT OFFICE LOCATIONS TODAY.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, WE'RE DUPLICATING SOME OF THE PUBLIC FACING FUNCTIONS THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE ONCE WE GET INTO THE FROST TOWER.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THAT OVER THAT 30 YEAR PERIOD, IT'S ABOUT BREAKEVEN.

SO THAT PROJECT DOES PAY FOR ITSELF, AND IT HAS NO IMPACT ON OUR DEBT CAPACITY.

WE'LL BE ISSUING BONDS, UM, UH, AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT POINTS IN TIME TO FUND THAT RENOVATION PROJECT.

WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED BONDS TO ACQUIRE THE BUILDING.

WE BOUGHT THE BUILDING LAST DECEMBER, SO WE OWN THE EXISTING FROST TOWER TODAY.

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THEY'RE LEASING THAT BUILDING BACK FROM US UNTIL THEIR NEW TOWER IS READY, AND THEY MOVE INTO THE NEW TOWER.

WITH RESPECT TO CITY HALL, MIKE MENTIONED THAT'S A $38 MILLION PROJECT.

WHEN WE BEGAN THE ANALYSIS AROUND THE FROST P THREE, UH, PROPOSAL, WE KNEW THAT CITY HALL HAD ISSUES.

WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME RENOVATION WORK AROUND CITY HALL.

AND SO WE BEGAN TO BUILD, UM, SOME PROJECTIONS WITHIN OUR DEBT PLAN, SOME OF OUR DEBT CAPACITY TOWARDS THE CITY HALL PROJECT.

NOW, THAT HAS EVOLVED.

UM, MIKE MENTIONED A LOT OF THE ADDITIONAL DUE DILIGENCE AND ASSESSMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE OVER THE PAST YEAR TO GET US TO A POINT WHERE WE'VE GOT A GOOD ESTIMATE OF WHAT THAT COST WOULD BE.

SO WE HAVE ADJUSTED THE DEBT PLAN, UM, THIS PAST SUMMER TO, UM, UH, ALLOCATE $38 MILLION TOWARDS THE CITY HALL PROJECT.

SO IF YOU ALL DECIDED TO, IF YOU, IF YOU ALL APPROVED US MOVING FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT, WE WOULD THEN ISSUE THAT $38 MILLION IN CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION NEXT SUMMER, AND WE WOULD FUND THE, UH, THE RENOVATION PROJECT.

SO WITH THAT, UH, AMERICAN COUNCIL, UH, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THAT MAY HAVE BEEN THE BRIEFEST PRESENTATION I'VE MADE IN A WHILE.

SO, WELL, I'M, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, BEN, IF THAT SLIDE WAS NECESSARY.

, IT'S NOT TELLING US A WHOLE LOT THAT YOU DIDN'T ALREADY SAY, BUT, UH, NO, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION, BEN AND, AND MIKE AS WELL.

UM, I THINK WE KNEW THIS DAY WAS COMING, UM, AND IT KIND OF CAUSES US TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT TRULY IS THAT FACILITY? IS THAT JUST A SET OF OFFICES WHERE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY MANAGEMENT, UH, RESIDES? OR IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE SAY, THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE? AND I THINK THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN TREVINO'S WORK ON THE A D A ACCESSIBILITY UNDERSCORES THE FACT THAT THIS IS A, A, A PUBLIC FACILITY IN EVERY SENSE OF THE WORLD, THE WORD, THIS IS THE FRONTWARD FACING PUBLIC FACING, UH, PART OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

AND WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN IT.

SO, UM, I MEAN, I, OBVIOUSLY, I, I DON'T SEE US HAVING MUCH OF A CHOICE, BUT TO, UM, LIVE UP TO THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN IT.

UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'VE PRESENTED IS A REASONABLE WAY OF DOING THAT.

UM, THERE ARE SOME DECISION POINTS FOR COUNSEL, AND I'LL JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU MY, MY PERSPECTIVE OF IT.

I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE IT AS PAINLESS, UH, AND AS INEXPENSIVE AS POSSIBLE TO DO IT IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY.

UH, I WOULD NOT BE IN FAVOR OF US TRYING TO STAY IN THAT FACILITY WHILE, WHILE IT'S BEING RENOVATED, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT WILL EXTEND THE, THE LIFE OF THE PROJECT WILL EXTEND THE COSTS INVOLVED AND SO FORTH.

AND I, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FOR US NOT TO PUT, UH, OURSELVES OR THE PUBLIC THAT VISITS THE FACILITY IN ANY FURTHER DANGER.

IF IT WAS A CONSTRUCTION SITE AND, AND ONE WITH ACTIVE CONTAMINANTS, UM, WITH REGARD TO WHERE THE RELOCATION SITE WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE THAT WE DON'T DIS, WE DISRUPT AS FEW NUMBER OF FACILITIES AS POSSIBLE.

AND I KNOW PLAZA THE ARMAS HAS BEEN AN EXTRAORDINARY PROJECT.

IT IS COMPLETE, UH, IT'S BEING MOVED INTO FOR THE PERMANENT HOME OF OUR MEDIA AND, UH, PUBLIC AFFAIRS AND SO FORTH.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD.

I WOULDN'T WANT US TO DISRUPT THAT FACILITY JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF TEMPORARILY HOUSING, UH, CITY STAFF AND, AND CITY COUNCIL.

I, MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE JUST TO USE THE FACILITY WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE OVER IN THE FROST TOWER.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.

I THINK IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA DEMONSTRATE OUR VALUES IN TERMS OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION OF 130 YEAR OLD FACILITY, THEN WE NEED TO GET UNDERWAY WITH THE PROJECT AND APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CAPACITY TO DO SO.

UM, COUNCIL INTRAVENOUS, THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORDS.

UM, SPECIFICALLY, UH, ABOUT WHAT CITY HALL REALLY MEANS TO, TO EVERYBODY IN THE CITY AND, AND HOW WE WANT TO CREATE A, UM, AS, AS INCLUSIVE, UH, FACILITY AS AS POSSIBLE.

AND, UH, KNOWING THAT WE CAN DO THAT.

I THINK IT'S, IT IS CRITICAL THAT, THAT WE ACT ON THAT VERY, UH, NOTION.

FIRST, I WANT TO THANK, UM, THE A I A AMERICAN IN STORE ARCHITECTS, UH, TORI, ADAM, AND CHRISTINE FOR, THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN ATTENDANCE HERE TODAY.

I WANNA THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE TODAY, UH, TO HELP.

UH, THEY HELP PUT ON THE, THE DESIGN COMPETITION TO, TO SHOW US THAT THERE'S MANY OPTIONS, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE, IT'S ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.

UM, I SPECIFICALLY WANT TO THANK GORDON HARTMAN, WHO MADE IT POSSIBLE BY, UH, BY, BY BEING THE PERSON WHO ACTUALLY, UH, DONATED THE FUNDS TO CREATE THE ACTUAL DESIGN COMPETITION THAT WAS HELD, UH, TO, TO PROVE THAT EFFORT.

UH, UM, A A PARTNER OF HIS HARVEY NAJAM WAS ALSO VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN THAT, AND AN ADDITIONAL FUNDER WAS H E B.

UH, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A CRITICAL COMPONENT.

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AND, AND I JUST WANT TO ASK, UM, I, I BELIEVE ADAM'S HERE, ADAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY JUST A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE DESIGN COMPETITION? 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S, IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE A I A IS A, IS A, IS A BENEFICIAL PARTNERSHIP, UH, FOR THE CITY.

AND, UH, YOU CAN MAYBE JUST SAY JUST A FEW, FEW WORDS ABOUT THE DESIGN COMPETITION AND THE ROLE OF THE A I A I CAN.

ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK.

UH, COUNCILMAN, IT'S MY FIRST B SESSION.

I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, UM, MY NAME'S ADAM REED.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF A I SAN ANTONIO, WHERE WE REP REPRESENT OVER 600 ARCHITECTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO IN OUR PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION.

AND THIS IS NOW, UH, ONE OF A FEW COMPETITIONS WE'VE ACTUALLY PARTNERED WITH, UH, UH, COUNCILMAN TREVINO ON OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND I WANTED TO APPLAUD HIM, UH, IN MAKING IMPORTANT CITY DECISIONS THAT ARE DESIGN MINDED.

UM, I THINK THAT, UM, AS IT GOES, ARCHITECTS BELIEVE THAT GOOD DESIGN IS GOOD BUSINESS.

AND, UH, THIS WAS, UH, FURTHER EVIDENCE THAT I THINK THAT THIS IS ALSO, UH, IN THIS, IN THIS CASE, THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

UM, WE, I CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT WE DID, UH, THE VISION BEHIND IT AND WHY WE THINK THIS IS TIME TO ADDRESS IT.

I THINK YOU MADE A COMPELLING ARGUMENT EARLIER.

UM, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UM, UH, THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.

AND AS WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING'S OLD, THE APPROACH IS MAYBE EVEN ARCHAIC.

AND I THINK THAT'S LITERALLY TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU CONSIDER THE WAY YOU HAVE TO GET INTO THE BUILDING CURRENTLY.

AND THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, COMPETITION ADDRESSED.

WE HAD OVER 22 ENTRIES, UH, BY ARCHITECTS, STUDENTS, UH, ACROSS THE STATE.

AND, UM, WE HAD A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE LIST OF JURORS WHO LOOKED AT THIS, NOT FROM A DESIGN STANDPOINT.

WE AREN'T LOOKING AT THIS AS ARCHITECTS, UM, AND HOW WE WOULD THINK THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SOLUTION WOULD BE THE RIGHT ONE.

BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY, UM, ACTUALLY WEIGH IN ON, UH, ON THE WINNING DESIGN.

UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TODAY, UH, TODD, UH, HARROWER, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, WHO WAS HERE AS A JUROR, UH, AND HE REPRESENTED THE SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE DEBORAH CHARVIN, WHO'S, UH, THE CITY'S ACCESSIBILITY COMPLIANCE MANAGER HERE.

AND WE HAD SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE WHO LOOKED AT THIS, NOT ONLY, UM, FOR THE ACCESSIBILITY OR DESIGN APPROPRIATENESS, BUT ALSO FOR THE HISTORIC APPROPRIATENESS WITH THIS 128 YEAR OLD BUILDING.

AND, UM, AND FEASIBILITY, UH, OF, UH, ACTUALLY BEING SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMPLISH AND HAVE BUILT.

SOME OF THE DESIGNS WERE, UH, I COULD TELL YOU JUST BLATANTLY, UH, NOT DOABLE.

SO, UM, WE THINK WE HAVE A, UH, FANTASTIC SOLUTION, UH, THAT ONE OF THE LOCAL FIRMS, BEATTY PALMER HAS COME UP WITH, AND WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT, UH, IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, THE VISION, WELL, I GUESS THAT'S KINDA, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DID.

UM, GORDON HARTMAN PUT OUT A VERY NICE PIECE, UH, WHO HE CAN'T BE HERE TODAY, BUT I WAS GONNA TAKE SOME OF HIS OP-ED THAT WAS IN THE EXPRESS NEWS A FEW MONTHS AGO.

HE SAID THERE WERE SOME COMPELLING REASONS TO GETTING THIS ACCOMPLISHED SOONER VERSUS LATER.

FIRST, IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR TOO LONG, CITIZENS USING WHEELCHAIRS, CANS AND WALKERS HAVE HAD TO USE THE PROVERB, GO THE PROVERBIAL EXTRA MILE TO ACCESS THE SEAT OF CITY GOVERNMENT.

UM, OUR SPECIAL NEEDS COMMUNITY IS APPROXIMATELY 17% OF OUR CITY'S POPULATION POPULATION, WHICH IS NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT NUMBER.

UH, FURTHERMORE, OUR NEW MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL HAVE EXPRESSED TO OUR CITY MANAGER THEIR INTEREST IN EQUITABLE BUDGETS FOR ALL, AND THIS, UH, AND IN PRIORITIZING SPENDING WHERE, UH, IT CAN DO THE MOST GOOD FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

WE ALSO, UH, I THINK THIS IS MY FAVORITE, WHAT, UH, A BETTER TIME TO DO THIS THAN TO MARK THE 300 YEAR ANNIVERSARY.

UH, WE THINK THIS IS A GREAT GIFT TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

UH, AND ITS, ITS RESIDENTS, UH, FROM THOSE WHO ARE PHYSICALLY, COGNITIVELY DISABLED, UH, UH, ELDERLY, UH, VETERANS, ET CETERA.

SO WE ARE, UM, HERE AS A RESOURCE.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, KEEP CONTINUING THIS EFFORT AND, AND HOLD THE BANNER AS, UM, AS COUNCILMAN TRAVINO HAS AND AS GORDON HARTMAN AND SEVERAL OTHERS HAVE.

UM, THANK YOU, ADAM.

APPRECIATE THAT.

NO, THAT'S FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU.

UM, GREAT SUMMARY.

UH, I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, OUR DISABILITY ACCESS OFFICE, UH, UH, AS WELL AS THE DISABILITY ACCESS ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH ANN ALARM IS, UH, DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE.

UM, AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DID NOT MENTION, UH, SOMEONE THAT SOME OF US REMEMBER, UM, MS. JUDY BABBITT, UH, SHE'S, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLY ON AS, UH, CERTAINLY A LEGACY PROJECT, UH, TRIBUTE TO JUDY BABBITT.

SO I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT BECAUSE HER WORK, UH, IN AT, AT CITY HALL AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY HAS, HAS BEEN FELT.

AND, UM, WE REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, THE FACT THAT THIS, THIS PROJECT IS GONNA BE INCLUDED IN THE OVERALL DESIGN PACKAGE FOR, UM, OR RENOVATION PACKAGE FOR CITY HALL.

UM, SO, UH, MOVING ON TO A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

UH, THE DESIGN BUILD NATURE OF THIS PROJECT, AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHO CAN ANSWER THIS, BUT I KNOW PLAZA AMAS USED THIS METHODOLOGY, UH, WHICH I THINK, AND EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE THAT PLAZA AMAS WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

SPEAK TO US ON, ON OUR, IS THAT THE MODEL THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON, ON THIS RENOVATION? YES,

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COUNCILMAN, THAT IS THE MODEL.

UH, IT, IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

WE'VE DONE IT ON A NUMBER OF PROJECTS.

WHAT WE REALLY LIKE ABOUT IT IS, YOU, YOU, THE PRIVATE SECTOR PUTS TOGETHER A VERY SOPHISTICATED TEAM OF DESIGNERS AND CONTRACTORS, AND THEY'RE ONE POINT OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO THERE'S NOT, THERE'S NOT FINGER POINTING BETWEEN A DESIGNER AND A CONTRACTOR AND A PROJECT LIKE THIS.

THERE'S A LOT OF JUST UNKNOWNS AND UNFORESEENS, BUT IT'S ONE TEAM THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER, FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

UM, AND SO WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS YOU HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL HISTORIC BUILDING, UH, CITY HALL, WE JUST, UH, WE JUST PRESENTED.

UH, BUT SIMILARLY, PLAZA AMASS HAD A LOT OF THOSE, THOSE, UH, FEATURES AND ISSUES.

UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL TO POINT OUT TO, IS THAT PART, IS THAT GONNA BE PART OF THE WORK AT CITY HALL? 'CAUSE UH, WHAT I DO KNOW IS THAT THERE'S AREAS OF, OF THE BUILDING THAT ARE TRULY MAGNIFICENT, BUT ARE COVERED UP RIGHT BY, YOU KNOW, SOME TWO BY TWO CEILING TILE AND RIGHT.

AND NOT EXPRESS, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY.

IS IS, IS THAT GONNA BE PART OF THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD? YES, AND WE WOULD EXPECT, UH, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE TEAMS WILL COME FORWARD WITH A LOT OF THAT DESIGN EXPERTISE THAT WE HAVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TO TAKE A HISTORIC FACILITY, RESTORE IT, RENOVATE IT, BRING BACK A LOT OF THOSE GREAT ELEMENTS OF ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN, UM, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, IN GOOD TASTE WITH THE HISTORY, BUT TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT THOSE.

AND WE'VE SEEN OVER, OVER THE DECADE OF TIME WHERE DECADES OF TIME WHERE THEY'VE BEEN COVERED UP, UH, WITH DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

SO IT, IT'S TO BRING 'EM BACK.

THANKS.

THANKS, MIKE.

WELL, AND WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M CONSTANTLY IMPRESSED BY OUR, OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AND THE WHAT THEY CAN DO TO, TO DOCUMENT AND, AND PRODUCE, UH, VIDEOS, UH, WHAT WE DO IN THE CITY.

UH, I WOULD HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, MAYBE WE TELL THE STORY OF THIS RENOVATION, UH, THROUGH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, ONE BEING I IS, IS THAT WE HAVE, UH, OUR OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAVE ITS FAIR AND, AND TALK ABOUT LOTS OF THE REPAIRS.

I'D LOVE FOR THE C CITY HALL TO BE THE SUBJECT OF A SERIES OF, OF RENOVATION, UH, TECHNIQUES, IDEAS, AND, AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING TO THE BUILDING.

LET LET THEM KNOW HOW EXTENSIVELY WE'RE WORKING ON THE BUILDING COULD BE, UH, SO BENEFICIAL.

I I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE INTERESTED IN THE WOODEN WINDOWS AND, AND HOW, HOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE ADDRESSED.

SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, JUST SIMPLY RECOMMEND THAT WE DOCUMENT THIS AND, AND MAKE IT A, MAYBE EVEN A KIND OF A, THIS OLD CITY HALL SERIES, UM, OFF OF THIS OLD HOUSE.

AND, UH, AND THEN JUST LASTLY, JUST WANNA THANK YOU, MIKE.

UH, THANKS, THANKS TO JORGE.

I, I KNOW, UH, JORGE AND I HAVE BEEN, UM, TALKING SINCE WAY BACK, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THESE KIND OF PROJECT PROJECTS.

AND I WOULD LIKEN THIS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, A, AN OLD TIRE TUBE THAT'S JUST FULL OF PATCHES.

AND WE'RE FINALLY GONNA GET A, A, A NICE FRESH TIRE TUBE FOR OUR BIKES.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE WORK AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN VINNO.

COUNCILWOMAN GRO.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL OF THIS WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS NOW.

UM, YOU KNOW, CHERYL, AS I'M LOOKING AT SOME OF THESE SLIDES, IT'S VERY REMINISCENT OF WHAT WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH WITH OUR FEDERAL COURTHOUSE, AND ESPECIALLY ONE OF THE SLIDES WITH THE PIPES IN PARTICULAR, AND KNOWING, UM, HOW MUCH WE FOUGHT, WHAT IS THAT SLIDE NUMBER 12, HOW MUCH WE HAD TO CONVINCE THE SENATE AND CONGRESS THAT OUR FEDERAL COURTHOUSE NEEDED TO CHANGE.

AND NOW TO KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WE ARE LIVING AND WORKING AND INVITING EVERYONE TO SAN ANTONIO INTO, UM, HERE.

UH, SO I THINK IT IS HIGH TIME THAT WE DO TAKE THE APPROPRIATE STEPS HERE FOR OUR, OUR CITY HALL, UM, THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.

SO WE FOUGHT SO HARD FOR THAT.

SO I'M GLAD WE'RE TAKING THIS FORWARD AND THAT WE'RE DOING IT IN A VERY, UH, SYSTEMATIC WAY WITH LOOKING AT THE WHOLE FROST, UM, TOWER RENOVATION.

UM, MIKE, ON SLIDE NUMBER NINE, YOU TALKED ABOUT HOW CITY HALL CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE HISTORY, THAT'S $6 MILLION IN THE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS.

DO WE HAVE A COST OF, OF HOW MUCH WE'VE DONE WITH MAINTENANCE TO OUR OTHER CITY FACILITIES, LIKE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, MAYBE IN THE PART PAST WITH THE OLD PLAZA ARM? I WAS JUST TELLING THE MAYOR, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT THAT BUILDING LOOKED LIKE BEFOREHAND.

AND THE CONTINENTAL BUILDING THAT WE USED TO OWN, I THINK TO KNOW

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THE COST OF THE MAINTENANCE FOR ALL OF THOSE AND WHAT WE HAD TO PUT INTO WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR US TO SEE HOW MUCH, HOW MANY BANDAIDS WE'VE BEEN HAVING TO PUT TOWARDS THIS.

AND LET'S GET IT WITH ONE FAIL SWOOP.

I THINK MOVING THE CONTINENTAL, OR SELLING THE CONTINENTAL BUILDING IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I AM, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I'M ASSUMING THAT NOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE CON EVERYWHERE THAT WE LEASE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE NOT BEING CHARGED FOR ANY MAINTENANCE IN THESE OLDER BUILDINGS IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO.

ANY PLACE THAT OUR CITY EMPLOYEES ARE RIGHT NOW, OR IF WE'RE LEASING SPACE FOR THE CITY, ARE WE HAVING TO PAY FOR MAINTENANCE? NO, MA'AM.

OKAY.

LEASE INCLUDES ALL MAINTENANCE.

OKAY.

SO IT DOES INCLUDE THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT FACILITY FOR THE LEASE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

UM, I APPRECIATE THAT.

ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE FOR, AND LET ME JUST SAY THIS NOW, I AM OF THE OPINION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, US IF WHEN WE DO RELOCATE, BECAUSE LIKE THE MAYOR, I AGREE, WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS BUILDING AS IT'S GETTING RENOVATED.

UM, I'M NOT A FAN OF MILDEW, I'M NOT A FAN OF MOLD.

I GET, I'M ALLERGIC TO IT.

SO, UM, IT WOULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL.

UH, AND THEN WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO, ANYWAY, MOLD IS BAD.

SO I, I'M VERY MUCH OF THE OPINION THAT WE DO NEED TO MOVE, AND I DO AGREE THAT MOVING TO THE FROST TOWER WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL IN THE TRANSITION OF, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DISRUPT OTHERS IN, IN THE MOVE.

AND PLUS, I'M GUESSING IF WE WERE STILL THERE EVERYWHERE, EVEN IN THE PARKING LOT OF CITY HALL DURING THE RENOVATION, WOULD STILL BE A CONSTRUCTION ZONE.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE KIND OF A DIFFICULT, UH, SPOT TO MOVE TO WHEN IT COMES TO OUR REDESIGN HERE.

WITH THE, UM, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOR THE INTERIOR, UH, FOR THE SUITE PLAN, ET CETERA, WERE YOU, DID YOU LOOK AT DESIGN STANDARDS AND WHAT THEY'VE USED TO MAKE THE WORKSPACE MORE FUNCTIONAL? HAVE Y'ALL DONE THAT TO, TO MAKE AND SEE IF THESE PROPOSED SUITE PLANS, IF THEY'RE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USED? AND I JUST WANNA STAY FROM ANY, ANYTIME WE USE THE TERM GLASS WALL, I DON'T REALLY WANNA USE THE TERM GLASS WALL RIGHT NOW.

UM, SO DID YOU ALL GO THROUGH A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THE DESIGN AND IS THIS THE BEST USE FOR A WORKSPACE DESIGN PLAN? YES.

YES AND YES, .

OKAY.

SO WE WORKED WITH A, UH, FACILITY DESIGNER TO HELP US CREATE SOMETHING MORE STANDARDIZED SO THAT EACH COUNCIL OFFICE HAS THE SAME, I KNOW YOU ALL WERE DOING THAT WITH A FROST TOWER, SO DID Y'ALL IMPLEMENT IT WITH THE SAME HERE? YEAH.

OKAY.

AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO LOOK AT IT.

SO WE'RE THINKING, UM, MORE CONTEMPORARY OPEN SYSTEMS FURNITURE.

UM, THAT'S, UH, YOU CAN RECONFIGURE BASED ON, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE THREE PEOPLE IN CITY HALL, MAYBE YOU HAVE FOUR OR FIVE SO THAT IT CAN BE RECONFIGURED AND BE ERGONOMICALLY CORRECT AS WELL.

MM-HMM.

, UH, FOR, FOR THE EMPLOYEES.

SO YES, WE'RE WORKING WITH SPACE PLANNERS AND, UH, WITH SOME OF THE, UH, FURNITURE COMPANIES AS WELL THAT DO THE OPEN SYSTEMS FURNITURE.

SO, JUST FOR COMPARISON, WHEN THE CITY, UM, 30, MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO PURCHASED THE MUNICIPAL PLAZA BUILDING, IT WAS A BANK BUILDING AND THE CITY ACCEPTED IT AS IS.

SO WE'RE STILL FUNCTIONING IN THAT BUILDING, NOT VERY WELL MM-HMM.

, BUT IN THE SPACE EXACTLY AS IT WAS 35 YEARS AGO.

UM, AND SO WHEN WE DID THE P THREE PROJECT AND PURCHASED THE FROST TOWER, UM, ONE OF MY DIRECTIVES TO THE STAFF WAS THAT WE NEED TO RENOVATE THE INTERIOR TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT FOR THE, THE STAFF THAT ARE IN IT AND CONVERT FROM EVERYBODY DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN AN INDIVIDUAL OFFICE, BUT RATHER WE WORK IN TEAMS, UH, WITH, WITH OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.

AND SO OPEN SYSTEMS, UH, CAN WORK AS LONG AS YOU HAVE SOME CONFERENCE ROOMS WHERE YOU CAN CONDUCT SOME MEETINGS OR, UH, HANDLE PERSONNEL ISSUES.

SO WE BUILT THAT INTO THE EXPENSE THAT IS, HOW DO WE MAKE THE BUILDING A FUNCTIONAL BUILDING EFFICIENTLY, UH, FOR OUR MODERN DAY OPERATIONS? AND WE'RE DOING THAT SAME THING AS WE LOOK AT CITY HALL.

HOW DO WE KEEP THE HISTORIC CONTENT MM-HMM.

OF THE BUILDING, THE EXTERIOR, BUT MAKE IT MORE USABLE AND EFFICIENT ON THE INSIDE.

AND ALSO SO THAT THERE'S A STANDARDIZED OFFICE SYSTEM, AND EVERY TIME THERE'S AN ELECTION, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MOVE AROUND ON THE FLOOR, BUT RATHER HERE'S THE SPACE FOR EACH OF THOSE COUNCIL DISTRICTS, REGARDLESS OF WHO'S IN OFFICE.

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AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, TOO, WITH THE PLAZA DE ARM BUILDING, AND I, I THINK I SAW SHANNON HERE.

UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE, UH, BUILDING TOO, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO INCLUDE WHATEVER SORT OF GREEN BUILDING LEAD CERTIFICATION.

HOW CAN THIS BE? YES, THE HISTORIC AND ENVIR HISTORIC NATURE, BUT THEN ALSO, UM, VERY ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY.

AND, UH, ARE WE, WE DOING THAT WITH THIS? IS THIS PART OF THE DESIGN THAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT? UH, ABSOLUTELY IN EVERY PROJECT WE TAKE A LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE LEAD ELEMENTS FOR EFFICIENCIES, UH, LIGHTING, UM, ALSO ADAPTIVE REUSE, LIKE PLAZA TO ARM.

WE DID A LOT OF THAT.

THE, UH, THE WOOD FLOORING THAT'S IN THERE, A LOT OF THAT CAME FROM THE, THE RAFTERS OF THE BUILDING AND WERE RESTORED AND REPLACED THAT LONGLEAF PINE.

SO, UM, YEAH, EVERY ASPECT OF THE FACILITY, UH, WE LOOK AT THAT CONSTRUCTION RECYCLING, BUT ALL OF THE LIGHTING, THE SYSTEMS OR HIGH ENERGY SYSTEMS, AND THEN, UH, REUSING A LOT OF THE WOOD AND TREATMENTS THAT ARE IN THE FACILITY.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

.

AND, UM, JUST TO, JUST TO NOTE, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE RECOMMENDED START TIME OF AUGUST, 2018.

UM, SO KNOWING THAT IT'LL PROBABLY BE 105 DEGREES OUTSIDE, AND KNOWING THAT WE'LL BE IN THE THROES OF BUDGET, UH, SESSION AT THIS TIME TOO, UM, WILL CITY STAFF THEN BE, WILL BE READY TO GO WITH WHATEVER WE NEED TO? AND THE RENOVATION WILL BE DONE, THE DESIGN BUILD WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT.

YOUR STAFF, CHERYL, WILL HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AND FREEDOM TO BE ABLE TO WORK IN ALL THE SESSIONS AND WORK SESSIONS THAT WE NEED TO DO AT THAT TIME.

YES.

WELL, THAT'S THE PLAN.

OKAY.

WE MAY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL, AS WE GET INTO THE DESIGN, WE MAY WANT TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER BUDGET ADOPTION, WHICH IS MIDDLE OF SEPTEMBER.

RIGHT.

BUT, UH, THE IDEA WAS TO GET THROUGH THE MAJOR EVENTS FOR TRICENTENNIAL MM-HMM.

, AND THEN, UH, SURE.

GET INTO THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.

IT WILL TAKE US SOME TIME TO DO THE DESIGN WORK.

OKAY? MM-HMM.

.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, MAYOR, I THINK JUST FOR US TO ALL TO THINK ABOUT AND TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION, I THINK IT'S NICE THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THE TWO FLOORS WITH CITY HALL, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE AND THE FUTURE MAKEUP OF OUR GOVERNANCE OF THIS, UM, COUNCIL AND KNOWING THAT WE WANNA PLAN FOR THE FUTURE.

AND EVEN THAT WE ARE HAVING CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR CHI, OUR CITY CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION.

DOES THAT MEAN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS PART OF THE SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL? AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHERE WILL THEY FIT IN OUR TWO FLOORS? AND WILL WE BE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION AGAIN IN ANOTHER 5, 6, 7 YEARS? UM, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND THEN IF WE JUST SUGGEST WE SHOULD JUST STAY AS THE COUNCIL, MAYOR AND COUNCIL OFFICES IN THE FROST TOWER IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW.

SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN VERON.

COUNCILMAN PIA.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, CAN Y'ALL, Y'ALL HEAR ME OKAY? OKAY.

YES.

UH, I, I, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, THE PRESENTATION AND I, I, I SEE THAT WE'VE GOT FRACKING, EXTERIOR AGING, AND CRUMBLING FOR SOME INTERIOR WINDOW PIECES.

IF YOU GUYS CAN, UH, PUT UP SLIDE NUMBER 15, 14, 13, OR THERE'S EXTERIOR CONDITION.

UM, SO IN LOOKING AT THAT, IT OCCURS TO ME, YOU KNOW, CITY HALL DOESN'T JUST HOUSE MUNICIPAL OFFICES AND SERVICES, BUT WE'RE ALSO REALLY IMPORTANT ARCHITECTURALLY BECAUSE WE LEAVE THIS VISUAL LEGACY OF FUTURE GENERATIONS.

AND ON TOP OF THAT, VALUES BY WAY OF DESIGN, RIGHT? THOSE VALUES, I THINK WERE LOUD AND CLEAR FROM MY COUNCIL, , THE IMPORTANCE WE PLACE HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND .

AND SO WHEN I LOOK AT EXTERIOR CONDITIONS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE SLIDE, IT DOESN'T COMMUNIC.

IN FACT, IT COMMUNIC THE OPPOSITE.

AND SO I CELEBRATE THE EFFORT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE DESIGN CONCEPTS AND TO NOT OBSERVE HISTORIC ELEMENTS AND OF A CITY, RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS IS A MAJOR PUNCTUATION MARK DIALOGUE THAT IS SEEN DOWNTOWN.

AND THIS BUILDING IS AS IMPORTANT AS OUR HISTORIC COURTHOUSE, THAT STUNNING ACROSS THE STREET.

EVEN TREASURES, HISTORIC HANGER

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NINE.

AND SO WE ALL SEEM TO TAKE PICTURES OF THEMSELVES, OUR SMALL, AND THEY DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S STUNNING AND IMPORTANT.

AND SO I'M COMPLETE SUPPORT OF THIS.

AND I'M ALSO IN COMPLETE OF MAKING SURE THAT THOSE RAMPS ARE THERE BECAUSE THEY COMMUNICATE ACCESSIBILITY AS WELL.

SO, ALONG, UH, THOSE LINES, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. .

I NOTICED THAT THE BUILDING FROM THE STREET LOOKS LIKE IT'S SPANISH TILE, BUT THAT'S NOT THE ROOF, THE ROOF.

I, 'CAUSE I SAW A VIDEO OF COUNCILMAN SALANA AND ON THE ROOF, THE ENTIRE ROOF IS OUT.

I, NO, SO JORGE, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE GO AHEAD.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MAYOR ON COUNCIL MO PEREZ, DIRECTOR OF BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT SERVICES.

COUNCILMAN THE ROOF IS ACTUALLY A MEMBRANE ROOF, AND THE TILE THAT YOU SEE IS JUST PART OF THE FACADE THAT GOES AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE, OF THE ROOF.

IT'S JUST FOR AESTHETICS PURPOSES ONLY.

BUT THE ROOF IS MEMBRANE ROOF, IT'S FLAT MEMBRANE ROOF.

AND IT'S WHAT WE CALL T P O.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD THING.

UH, AND I'M, I'M, I'M VERY HAPPY 'CAUSE WE'D BE TALKING ABOUT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT KIND OF COST IF IT WEREN'T THE MEMBRANE.

DO WE HAVE AC UNITS ON THE ROOF, AC UNITS, AC UNIT? YES, SIR.

WE HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF.

AND ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WERE DONE DURING THE ASSESSMENT OF THE BUILDING WAS THE POSSIBILITY OF PLACING ALL THE MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ON THE GROUND ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING TO ELIMINATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE EQUIPMENT ON THE ROOF.

THAT FEASIBILITY, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BUILDING FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE TO SEE WE ACCOMMODATING EQUIPMENT AROUND CITY HALL, UM, WILL AFFECT THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING.

DOES THE CONDITION OF THE TILES ON THE ROOF LOOK OKAY? WERE THEY DAMAGED IN THE 2016 STORMS OR BEFORE THAT? IT IS.

THE, THE TILE IS GOING THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS OF THE FACADE IS DETERIORATING.

SO PART OF THIS RECONSTRUCTION WILL BE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE ENTIRE ENVELOPE OF THE BUILDING, SEAL THE BUILDING FOR MOISTURE, AND MAKE SURE THAT IN FACT, WE REINFORCE THE STONE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING, THERE'S NO MORE WATER INFILTRATION THAT WILL BE REPLACE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, ANY DAMAGE TILE OR STONE WITHIN THE WALLS OF THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

AND THEN LASTLY, WHEN, WHEN YOU DO TAKE DOWN THOSE AC UNITS, ASSUMING THAT YOU DO TAKE 'EM DOWN AND YOU PLACE THEM ON THE GROUND, I IMAGINE THEY'LL BE ENCASED IN SOMETHING AND THAT ENCASEMENT OR THAT ENCLOSURE, I, MY HOPE IS, IS THAT IT'D BE IN KEEPING WITH THE, UH, HISTORIC RENOVATED ELEMENTS OF THE BUILDING, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE CHALLENGE.

THE DECISION TO PLACE THEM ON THE GROUND, FIRST OF ALL, FOR EFFICIENCY AND, AND COST SAVINGS, BUT ALSO THAT WE DON'T DETRACT FROM THE APPEARANCE OF THE BUILDING COUNT.

LET ME JUST ADD COUNCILMAN THAT, UH, OVER THE LAST, UH, FIVE TO EIGHT YEARS, WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF HISTORIC, UH, BUILDINGS AND, UH, AND NEW BUILDINGS.

UM, AND THE LOCAL DESIGN TEAMS, THE ARCHITECTS, THEY HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN, IN THIS ELEMENT.

UH, THE POSITIVE AMIS PROJECT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT ONE WON AN AWARD WITH THE SAN ANTONIO CONSERVATION SOCIETY.

UH, YOU DON'T WIN AN AWARD WITH THAT GROUP UNLESS YOU'VE REALLY RESTORED IT PROPERLY.

SO WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT THAT WITH A GOOD PUBLIC, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR TEAM, ALL OF THOSE ISSUES OF SCREENING AND HOW THE DESIGN FITS HISTORY AND, AND SO FORTH WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE, THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN BLI.

COUNCILMAN PERRY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS HERE ON, DURING THE PRESENTATIONS.

WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, STREAMLINING, COMBINING, UH, EFFICIENCIES.

WAS THAT, UH, WHAT KIND OF EFFICIENCIES AND STREAMLINING ARE WE REALLY GETTING? WAS THAT QUANTIFIED IN DOLLARS? AND, UH, HOW MUCH ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IN DOLLARS ON COMBINING ALL OF THESE AGENCIES INTO THE FROST TOWER? UM, WE CAN GIVE YOU A, A FINANCIAL PRESENTATION, UH, AND TALK ABOUT TAKING THE LEASE PAYMENTS, BUT IT'S BASICALLY CONVERTING WHERE WE'RE LEASING TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

AND THE RENT OF, AND ALSO DO RESTORATION AND RENOVATION AT THE FROST BUILDING.

SOME OF THE FLOORS HAVE BEEN

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MODERNIZED IN THE SENSE OF THEY HAVE SOME SYSTEMS OPEN STYLE, UH, SYSTEMS. AND SO WE CAN GO OVER THE NUMBERS WITH YOU AS TO WHAT THAT REPRESENTS FOR THE CITY.

SURE.

I'D REALLY LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT.

I, I WAS LOOKING AT ALSO, UH, WITH THESE EFFICIENCIES, ARE WE TALKING MANPOWER EFFICIENCIES ALSO? ARE WE, I MEAN, ARE WE GONNA GET ANY SAVINGS IN, IN PEOPLE AND CONSOLIDATING THEM? UH, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED REDUCTIONS IN STAFF.

AS YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST DECADE, WE HAVE CUT MORE THAN 1600 CIVILIAN POSITIONS WHILE ADDING MORE PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL.

SO WE HAVE STREAM, WE CONTINUOUSLY LOOK AT HOW WE CAN CHANGE BUSINESS SYSTEMS AND REDUCE EXPENSE, UH, FOR, FOR OUR TAXPAYERS IN THIS CASE.

UM, WE HAVEN'T QUANTIFIED, UM, HOW MUCH TIME SAVED FOR JUST DRIVING ACROSS TOWN OR WALKING, UH, IN BETWEEN MEETINGS BEING ALL IN THE SAME BUILDING.

WE'LL ACHIEVE A NUMBER OF SAVINGS.

AND SO, UH, WE WILL PUT TOGETHER SOME IDEAS FOR YOU ON HOW, WHAT THAT EQUATES TO IN TERMS OF, UH, MEASURED TIME SAVINGS, UH, FOR STAFF TO GO BETWEEN BUILDINGS.

UM, I KNOW MOST OF THE STAFF THAT I DEAL WITH ON A DAILY BASIS ARE EITHER WALKING OR DRIVING HERE FROM OTHER LOCATIONS.

AND SO HAVING EVERYONE IN THE FROST TOWER, UM, ACHIEVES NOT ONLY SAVINGS, UH, FOR THE STAFF, BUT ALSO FOR THE PUBLIC WHO MAY WANT TO DO BUSINESS AND COME AND SPEAK WITH A COUNCIL MEMBER, BUT MAY ALSO WANT TO GO TO A NUMBER OF OTHER OFFICES TO MEET WITH THOSE STAFF AND THE, THE CONVENIENCE FOR, FOR THEM AS WELL.

PLUS THE FROST TOWER ALSO INCLUDES A PARKING GARAGE, 700 CAR PARKING GARAGE WAS PART OF THAT TRANSACTION.

SO WE HAVE MORE PARKING THEN FOR THE PUBLIC COMING TO VISIT, UM, AS WELL GEN TYPE.

SO WE CAN, I'LL TAKE, I'LL TAKE A LOOK WITH STAFF AS TO HOW WE CAN QUANTIFY, UH, THE VALUE OF, OF THOSE SAVINGS.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, ON, ON THIS, UH, JUST, JUST CURIOUS, UH, WHY WASN'T, WHY WASN'T THIS PUT ON THE, UM, THIS LAST BOND ISSUE VERSUS DOING CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION? UH, WE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THAT OR CONSIDER IT.

OKAY.

UM, BUT WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS COMING.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR AT LEAST FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN SETTING ASIDE SOME CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF A BUILDING.

I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT, UM, REPAIRING SOME BUILDINGS, PERHAPS EVEN CITY HALL IS NOT, UM, A SEXY THING TO DO, BUT IS NECESSARY.

UM, I'M THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE WATER REPAIRS WE DID JUST IN JUNE ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.

THEY'VE ALREADY THEY'RE NEEDING TO BE REPAIRED AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH WATER ON THE FOURTH FLOOR.

THE SEWER BACK UP IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE NINE MONTHS AGO.

THE FLOODING EVERY TIME IT RAINS IN THE BASEMENT.

SO WE KNEW THIS WAS COMING, BUT WE DIDN'T, IT WASN'T EVEN CONSIDERED REALLY, UM, WASN'T EVEN SUGGESTED AS, UM, AS A BOND PROJECT.

AND WE REALLY, A YEAR AGO, AS WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE BOND COMMITTEES, WE HADN'T DONE THE ASSESSMENT.

WE JUST WENT TO THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE IN SEPTEMBER OF 16.

SO WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE AN ANALYSIS OR A BUDGET AS TO THE VALUE OR THE COST OF THE EXPENSE FOR THE BUILDING.

WE WERE JUST STARTING THAT PROCESS.

AND, UH, THAT WORK THAT WAS DONE BY OUR THIRD PARTY ENGINEER, UH, WAS MADE AVAILABLE TO US IN MARCH.

AND OF COURSE, WE'D ALREADY SET THE ELECTION, UH, FOR THE MAY BOND PROGRAM THEN.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

AND, UH, MIKE ON THE, UH, ENTRANCE AND I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO DO PORTIONS OF PROJECTS, BUT, UM, AGAIN, WITH THE, UH, 300TH ANNIVERSARY, UH, HAVE WE LOOKED AT PULLING THAT ENTRANCE AND DOING THAT FIRST, DOING THAT UPFRONT, AND THEN DOING THE REST OF THE BUILDING LATER.

WE HAVE DISCUSSED THAT AND LOOKED AT THAT, UH, WHAT, WHAT IF WE DID THAT AS A SEPARATE PROJECT, RIGHT? SOME OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH EFFICIENCY, YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN YOU DO IT TOGETHER, OBVIOUSLY IT'S GONNA BE LESS EXPENSIVE OVERALL.

BUT LET'S SAY YOU DID THE ACCESSIBILITY ENTRANCE HERE, WHICH IS THE WHOLE FRONTAGE POTENTIALLY OF FLORES ALL THE UTILITIES COMING ACROSS AND EVERYTHING.

SO, UM, THEN YOU, YOU, YOU MAKE A, A BEAUTIFUL, GREAT EQUAL ACCESSIBILITY ENTRANCE INTO A TOTALLY DILAPIDATED BUILDING THAT EVERY DAY IS FALLING APART.

SO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE AS A QUESTION? BUT THEN ALSO WITH ALL THOSE UTILITIES, THEN WHAT DO YOU DO? ARE YOU GONNA, WE NEED TO REALIGN THEM, WE NEED TO UPGRADE A LOT OF THEM.

'CAUSE THEY'RE OLD.

SO IS THAT, IF THAT'S PART OF THE ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT,

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THEN YOU'RE TAKING THE UTILITIES EXTERIOR AND THEN YOU'RE STUBBORN THEM AGAIN AT THE BUILDING, NEW TO THE BUILDING, AND THEN EVERYTHING ELSE IS OLD.

YOU GOT THAT CONNECTION PIECE AND, AND, UH, FOR US IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

IF, IF YOU CAN DO IT ALL AT ONCE, WE KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO EVENTUALLY CITY HALL, WHETHER IT'S A FEW YEARS, WHATEVER IT IS, THE LIFE SAFETY ISSUES ARE GONNA START COMING UP.

AND IT'S GONNA BE A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO DO IT.

AND SO IF YOU'VE JUST DONE THE EQUAL ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT, THE MAIN ENTRANCE FOR CONSTRUCTION IS GONNA BE THROUGH THAT NICE NEW ENTRANCE.

IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO KEEP IT NICE.

AND, AND WITH ALL THE UTILITIES, WE THINK IT WOULD GET TORN UP AND HAVE TO BE CUT THROUGH.

AND WE WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT WITH A BRAND NEW PROJECT LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

I'D I'D SAY IT ANOTHER WAY, IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, JUST GIVEN ALL THAT MIKE DESCRIBED HAS TO BE DONE TO THE BUILDING, WE BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE TO TEAR UP.

WE THE AS-BUILTS FOR THIS 128 YEAR OLD BUILDING, WE'VE IDENTIFIED NINE UTILITIES IN CONNECTING TO FLORES.

BUT WE EXPECT THERE COULD BE MORE OR THEY COULD BE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

SO TO DO THAT AND THEN TEAR IT UP AGAIN WHEN WE START DOING THE RENOVATION WORK AT CITY HALL DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND I TALKED WITH THE, UH, WINNING DESIGNER, UM, UM, THE BEATTY PALMER GROUP A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

AND THEY AGREED THAT IT MADE SENSE TO DO THE PROJECTS TOGETHER JUST FOR ECONOMIES WE COULD ACHIEVE, UH, RATHER THAN HAVING A WHOLE DIFFERENT GROUP MOBILIZED FOR THAT.

AND THEN YOU COME IN AND, AND, UH, DO WORK AT CITY HALL, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON THE EXTERIOR AS WELL.

SO THE CASINGS, WE TALKED ABOUT THE WINDOWS, UM, AND THE HISTORIC WINDOW CASINGS THAT ARE ROTTING.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A WINDOW FALL OUT.

IT WAS CAUGHT ON THE LEDGE OF THE BUILDING AND THE FOURTH FLOOR RIGHT ABOVE THE STEPS.

THIS WAS JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO.

WE'VE DONE SOME, UH, REPAIR TO THE WINDOW FRAMES, UH, THAT ARE ROTTING NOW.

UH, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE SCAFFOLDING, UM, UP ALL AROUND THE FRONT AFTER, OR WHILE THIS IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION IF YOU START THAT PROJECT FIRST.

SO IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.

IT REALLY SHOULD BE SEQUENCED TOGETHER.

AND WE'VE, UH, WE'VE TALKED WITH THE ENGINEERING GROUPS ABOUT THAT.

SO I THINK, I THINK ANOTHER BIG FACTOR TO ADD IS BECAUSE THE HISTORIC NATURE OF THE SITE AND THE BUILDING, IF WE JUST DID THE EQUAL ACCESSIBILITY PROJECT, UM, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS ON THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION PIECE THAT THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH AGAIN ON THE BUILDING.

IT'S, IT'S A BETTER, UH, JUST TO DO IT ALL AT ONCE.

AND, UH, WITH, WITH THOSE AGENCIES, TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION AND SO FORTH, GO THROUGH ONE PROCESS, DONE, LET'S GET IT BUILT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IF I'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

UM, THEN, UH, WHAT, WHAT PORTION OF HISTORY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE HISTORICAL PUR PURPOSES? BECAUSE WASN'T THE, UH, WASN'T THERE A FLOOR ADDED ON THIS BUILDING? RIGHT? 1927, THERE WAS A, THE FOURTH FLOOR ADDED.

SO ARE WE WE'RE SAYING THAT'S THE HISTORIC PORTION AS WELL, THE ADDED ON PORTION? OR ARE WE GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL HISTORY OF THE BUILDING AND OR SHOULD WE YOU MEAN ELIMINATE THE FOURTH FLOOR? YEAH, WE, WE DON'T PLAN TO DO THAT.

I MEAN, WHAT WE'LL DO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT PART OF OUR RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT FOURTH AREA IS ALSO HISTORIC.

ANYTHING OVER 50 YOURS OR 50 MM-HMM.

.

SO WE'LL WORK CLOSELY WITH THE TEXAS HISTORIC COMMISSION, OF COURSE, WITH SHANNON MILLER AND OUR TEAM HERE ON WHAT'S PROPER FOR THE WHOLE FACILITY.

BUT WE WOULD NOT EXPECT TO HAVE TO REMOVE A, A FLOOR.

JUST JUST A QUESTION.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE THE FLOOR THAT WAS ADDED ON THAT, SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE, THE ORIGINAL TO ME HISTORICAL TYPE OF STRUCTURE.

BUT, UM, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING.

TAKE THE FLOOR FLOOR BACK OFF, GET IT TO WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY IN THE PROCESS, BUT, HMM, WE'D, WE'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND COUNCIL APPOINTED STAFF COULD FIT IN THE BUILDING.

PROBABLY NOT, BUT GIVE THE MAYOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO INTO THE FROST .

UM, NO, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE, SIR.

YEAH.

THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PERRY.

THAT IS A CONCEPT THAT AT LEAST SHOULD BE POSED TO THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION THOUGH.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THEY WERE GONNA SHUFFLE SOME OFFICES AND THERE'S GONNA BE PEOPLE LOCATED IN FROST AND PEOPLE LOCATED, UM, IN CITY HALL.

THERE IS MERIT TO HIS QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A ARTISTIC BUILDING WITH A DOME STRUCTURE ON THE ROOF.

IF WE'RE TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, RESTORE IT TO ITS ORIGINAL HISTORICAL

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CONDITION, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD AT LEAST EXPLORE.

AND, AND IF THERE'S COST IMPLICATIONS TO IT, IF IS MORE EXPENSIVE, LESS EXPENSIVE, IF THERE'S A HISTORICAL, UM, PERSPECTIVE TO THAT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WORTHY OF DISCUSSION.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

AND JUST, UH, HOW MANY SQUARE FEET IN, IN CITY HALL? IT'S 52,000.

52,000.

AND SO WHAT DOES THAT COME OUT TO PER SQUARE FOOT FOR THE REHAB? THE, UH, I'M SURE SOMEBODY ELSE COULD DO THE MATH FASTER THAN I, BUT YEAH, IT'S, UH, ALL IN EVERYTHING FROM THE HISTORIC PROCESS, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, EVERYTHING, IT'S SEVEN, IT'S ABOUT $700 A FOOT SQUARE FOOT, SEVEN, ALL UTILITIES, EVERYTHING.

WOW.

YEAH.

THAT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE.

AND SO I GUESS I JUST FEEL VERY SHOCKED BY THE PRICE TAG.

YEAH, I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE, UH, BEING COST EFFECTIVE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER POTENTIAL FINANCING TOOLS THAT WE CAN USE TO HELP, UH, ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT COST? NOT THAT WE'RE WHAT, BEYOND, YOU KNOW, THE TRADITIONAL, IT LOOKS LIKE, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE USING HERE, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TO PAY FOR THAT.

I MEAN, IS THERE ANY OTHER OPTION THAT COULD PERHAPS SPREAD IT OUT FURTHER OR, UM, LESSEN THE BURDEN? UH, COUNCILMAN, I, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER FINANCING THAT WE COULD DO.

I MEAN, THESE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION WILL BE REPAID OVER A 20 YEAR PERIOD, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE $38 MILLION COST OF THE FACILITY, I'M NOT, UM, AWARE OF ANY OTHER OPTION WHERE WE COULD BRING THAT COST DOWN TO A FINANCING OPTION.

THE CFOS WILL LEVERAGE OUR AAA BOND RATING.

WE'RE GONNA GET A VERY LOW INTEREST COST IF WE ISSUE THIS NEXT SUMMER, UM, IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL INTEREST THAT WE'LL PAY.

AND WHAT ABOUT, UM, SORRY, I JUST LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

UH, ABOUT, THERE WERE THIS CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, MY OTHER THOUGHT, OH, WHAT ABOUT LIKE HISTORIC TAX CREDITS OR, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE TOOLS THAT OTHER ENTITIES USE TO HELP DEFRAY SOME OF THOSE COSTS? ARE WE ELIGIBLE SINCE WE ARE, I'M SORRY I CAME LATE.

SO MAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DISCUSSED IT OR NO, UNFORTUNATELY WE'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HISTORIC TAX CREDITS BECAUSE WE ARE A, A CITY GOVERNMENT AND WE COULD, WE, WE DID EXPLORE THAT AND IT WOULD REQUIRE US TO CONVEY THE BUILDING TO ANOTHER ENTITY, UM, TO BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THOSE CREDITS.

AND SO THAT'S NOTHING WE'D WANT.

WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I, I MEAN, IS THERE ANY, WOULD IT BE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO WORK OUT SOME SORT OF, I DON'T KNOW, SOME SORT OF THIRD PARTY, UH, TO REDUCE THE COST? IF, IF WE, IF IT'S VERY COMPLICATED? UH, OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

WELL, I JUST, UH, I FEEL LIKE I'VE NOT HEARD OF SUCH QUITE AN EXPENSIVE, UM, RENOVATION AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN SEEING A LOT OF, UH, PROJECTS AROUND, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF US THAT SIT ON THE, UM, ON THE TOURS BOARD, UH, I'M SORRY, NOT THE TOURS, BUT THE, THE MEETING WE JUST HAD THIS MORNING AT THE P F C WHERE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF RENOVATIONS, UH, AND ADAPTIVE REUSES.

I FEEL LIKE I HAVEN'T SEEN SUCH AN EXPENSIVE ADAPTIVE REUSE.

WE DID SOME CHECKING TODAY.

A QUESTION WAS RAISED ABOUT HOW MUCH THE COUNTY SPENT WHEN THEY DID A, THEIR, UH, TWO STORY COURTROOM AND DID SOME EXTERIOR RENOVATION WHEN THEY TOOK DOWN THE PINK BUILDING.

AND THAT, WHICH THEY DID, GOSH, THEY DID THAT, WHAT NOW? FOUR YEARS AGO.

BEAUTIFUL FACILITY.

IT'S, IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

AND ALL THE, AND THAT WAS 34 MILLION JUST TO TAKE DOWN THE PINK BUILDING AND DO THE DOUBLE COURTROOM RESTORATION.

BUT HOW MANY, OH, AND IT WAS JUST FACADE, SO IT WASN'T SQUARE FOOTAGE.

WELL, I CAN GIVE YOU THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT IT'D BE EVEN HIGHER THAN THIS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T RENOVATE THE ENTIRE BUILDING.

RIGHT.

ALL THEY DID WAS, UH, THE TWO STORY COURTROOM AND THEN THE EXTERIOR WHERE THEY TORE DOWN THAT PINK BUILDING THAT WAS ATTACHED, UH, TO THE COURTROOM AND RESTORED THE EXTERIOR.

UM, OKAY.

UH, WELL, I, I MEAN, I, I I I VALUE THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, OF COURSE.

I DON'T WANT TO SKIMP ON THAT.

UM, I WAS ABLE TO GO AND SEE SOME OF THE DESIGN COMPETITIONS FOR THE, UH, A D A ACCESSIBILITY.

UM, THIS WASN'T MY FAVORITE, BUT, UH, I JUST IMAGINE YOU MENTIONED THERE WOULD BE SORRY TO THE, UH, PEOPLE IN, UM, MOSTLY I JUST, UH, I MEAN, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT YOU SAY THERE'S SOME POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY TO SCALE IT BACK OR ADJUST OR, UH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A 10% OF THE TOTAL COST OF THE REHAB.

I JUST WONDER, OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR THE, FOR THE

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FACADE? SORRY? FOR THE ENTRANCE.

FOR THE ENTRANCE, YEAH.

SO THAT ONE, UH, AS I MENTIONED, THERE WAS A CONTEST WINNER, BUT THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY SELECTS THAT FOR THIS PROJECT NECESSARILY.

SO WE'LL WORK COLLECTIVELY ON WHAT'S THE BEST DESIGN FOR IT.

BUT IT'S, IT'S IN THAT RANGE COULD BE A LITTLE LESS, BUT IT'S, IT'S SOME, IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT NUMBER.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, I'M SURE Y'ALL KEEP US UPDATED.

AND IN TERMS OF WHERE WE RELOCATE, I THINK IT'S WHATEVER IS MOST FEASIBLE TO, UM, THE CITY.

IF WE GO TO FROST OR TO THE OTHER BUILDING, WHATEVER WORKS BEST.

I, I DON'T HAVE TOO MANY OPINIONS ABOUT THAT.

JUST WHATEVER'S EASIEST AND LEAST EXPENSIVE FOR EVERYONE.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD OF COURSE EXPECT A BEAUTIFUL FINAL PRODUCT.

AND THEN, SO THEN WHAT IS THE LIFESPAN FOR THAT RENOVATION? BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THESE OLD BUILDINGS SHOULD BE UPDATED ALL THE TIME PRETTY REGULARLY.

WE HAVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE OLD BUILDINGS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PROBLEMS. RIGHT.

BUT WE BUILD A BUILDING FOR 50 YEARS MINIMUM KNOWING THAT THERE'S PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE ALONG THE WAY.

THERE'S MAYBE SOME UPGRADES BECAUSE OF DATING OF SO FORTH.

BUT YEAH, WHEN WE DESIGN, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SAFETY HEADQUARTERS AND THESE OTHER FACILITIES, WE EXPECT A GOOD 50 YEAR LIFE OUT OF, OUT OF THE FACILITY.

UM, OKAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ.

COUNCILMAN COURAGE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, WHAT DID WE PAY FOR FROST TOWER? I, I WASN'T ON THE COUNCIL LIMIT, BUT I'D SURE LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT WAS.

THE ACQUISITION OF THE BUILDING WAS $52 MILLION.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THAT.

THE OTHER THING I WAS GONNA MAKE A NOTE OF IS, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE PEOPLE'S BUILDING AND I BELIEVE THAT TOO.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS THAT YOU MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO GET SOME SERVICE BY HAVING THE CITY CLERK ON THAT FIRST FLOOR WHEN PEOPLE FIRST WALK IN.

WE'VE GOT A LITTLE CUBBYHOLE NOW WHERE SOMEBODY CAN COME IN WITH SOMETHING FOR THE CITY CLERK, BUT USUALLY SOMEBODY NEEDS TO COME DOWNSTAIRS AND ESCORT 'EM UPSTAIRS TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

AND I THINK THAT WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND, AND THE, UH, CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE BEING REDONE, THAT PROBABLY WOULD CREATE AN IDEAL SPACE FOR THE CITY CLERK TO BE SO THAT WHEN PEOPLE WALK RIGHT IN THE CITY HALL, THEY CAN GET SOME SERVICES RIGHT THERE.

SO, JUST AS A DESIGN IDEA, I THOUGHT I'D THROW THAT OUT THERE.

WE CAN ALWAYS STICK SECURITY AND MEDIA IN THE BASEMENT.

SO FOOD FOR THOUGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT IS IT.

UM, MIKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I'M SURE THIS WILL, THERE'LL BE, UH, ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT, BUT LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE R F P, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY, DID YOU HAVE YEAH, IF WE COULD, UH, I WAS HOPING WE COULD GET A PICTURE ON THE SCREEN OF THE ORIGINAL.

UH, I, I THINK IT WAS THERE UNDERNEATH THE, ONE OF THE SLIDES OF THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL PICTURE WITH THE DOME AND CLOCK TOWER AND ALL THAT.

RIGHT NEXT TO THE, OH, THERE, THERE'S SLIDE EIGHT.

YEAH, WELL THERE IT IS.

OH, I SEE.

OKAY.

A DOME.

YEAH.

AND THEN, OKAY, CORNERS REACH A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

YEAH, IT'S HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT SEE NOW I THINK THAT'S THE HISTORICAL STRUCTURE WE NEED TO ACHIEVE RIGHT THERE.

THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

OKAY.

WE'LL LOOK AT THAT.

ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU ALL, UH, VERY MUCH.

THANKS, MIKE.

UH, JORGE, UH, BEN FOR THE PRESENTATION, THE TIME

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