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          GOOD MORNING. 
          WELCOME TO THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING OF NOVEMBER THE SECOND, 2017. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER TRAVINO, COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW WILL NOT BE HERE TODAY. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SALANA HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDAL HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE. 
          MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A COURT. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL A SESSION AGENDA. 
          TIME NOW IS 9:16 AM WE'LL BEGIN BY, UH, WELCOMING, WELCOMING A GUEST FOR INVOCATION, UH, FROM COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE AT THIS TIME REVEREND ABDON GARZA THIS MORNING TO OUR INVOCATION. 
          LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HIM. 
          UH, REVEREND ABDON GARZA IS A COMMUNITY PASTOR FOR THE NORTHERN HILLS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH MINISTRY CENTER, WHICH IS AN OUTREACH MINISTRY THAT SERVES THE RESIDENTS OF NORTHEAST SAN ANTONIO. 
          THE MINISTRY CENTER AND ITS VOLUNTEERS ARE COMMITTED TO BEING THE HANDS AND FEET OF CHRIST INTO THE COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING WORSHIP, PRAYER, HUMAN SERVICES, AND MINISTRY WITH THE COMMUNITY. 
          WE ARE PROUD OF THE WORK THAT REVEREND GARZA AND THE NORTHERN HILLS UNITED METHODIST CHURCH PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE HONORED TO HAVE YOU JOIN US THIS MORNING FOR THE INVOCATION. 
          AND I, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD A COUPLE MORE WORDS ABOUT, UH, ABDON. 
          UH, HE IS VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE NORTHEAST NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE. 
          HE ATTENDS MEETINGS. 
          UH, HE, HIS SMILE IS ALWAYS IS ON HIS FACE. 
          HE IS GOT OUTREACH AND STRETCHED ARMS WELCOMING PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE, UH, MINISTRY CENTER. 
          AND, UM, I CAN TELL YOU, EVEN AT NORTHERN HILLS THIS LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A, UM, A LITTLE FAIR, IF YOU WILL, AND THERE HE WAS. 
          HE HAD A LITTLE PUTT BUTT GOLF THING WITH, UH, KIDS COMING IN AND PLAYING, PUT PUTT GOLF. 
          SO, UH, I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO FOR, UH, DISTRICT 10 AND, UH, CONTINUED SUCCESS WITH THE MINISTRY CENTER. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR COMING IN THIS MORNING. 
          IT, IT'S AN HONOR TO, UM, BE INVITED TO PRAY FOR OUR, OUR CITY LEADERS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE SACRIFICED MUCH TO, UH, TO FOLLOW THAT CALL TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT. 
          EACH OF YOU HAS BEEN PLACED IN THIS POSITION OF AUTHORITY AND LEADERSHIP, I BELIEVE BY GOD. 
          AND OUR LORD WILL GUIDE YOU IN DISCERNMENT AS YOU DELIBERATE ON ALL THE MATTERS OF, UH, OF OUR CITY GOVERNMENT. 
          AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO PRAY. 
          DEAR HEAVENLY FATHER, AS THIS CITY COUNCIL GATHERS TO DECIDE ON MATTERS THAT ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE PRESENT AND FUTURE WELLBEING OF SAN ANTONIO, PLEASE BLESS AND GUIDE EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS COUNCIL. 
          PLEASE HELP THEM TO ALWAYS TURN FIRST TO YOU FOR GUIDANCE AND HELP. 
          LORD, PLEASE SURROUND THEM WITH PEOPLE OF FAITH WHO CAN GIVE THEM ADVICE AND ENCOURAGEMENT AS IT'S NEEDED. 
          LORD, PLEASE GIVE THEM THE DISCERNMENT AND THE COURAGE AND THE STRENGTH TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          PLEASE BLESS ALL THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO, OF OUR STATE, AND OF OUR COUNTRY, AND PLEASE BLESS, BLESS OUR LEADERS. 
          IT IS IN JESUS' NAME THAT I PRAY. 
          AMEN. 
          LIBERTY TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE LIBERTY IS JUSTICE FOR ALL. 
          THANK YOU, PASTOR GARZA. 
          WE HAVE A ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TRANSLATION SERVICES. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
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WE'LL 
          [3. Approval of Minutes for the City Council Regular Meetings of
September 13 - 14, 2017]
NOW TAKE UP ITEM THREE, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 13TH AND 14TH. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS THE MEETING MINUTES OF CITY COUNCIL SEPTEMBER 13 AND 14. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN GRO, WHO ON A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I JUST WANTED TO, UM, RECOGNIZE A SPECIAL GROUP IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY, MISS ANGELICA OCHOA'S HARLANDALE HIGH SCHOOL SPEECH AND COMMUNICATIONS CLASS. 
          THEY'RE HERE TO LOOK AT SPEECH AND DEBATE TODAY, UH, MAYOR. 
          SO WE WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THEM AND ASK THEM TO PLEASE STAND SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE YOU. 
          PLEASE STAND, LADIES, WE WANNA THANK THEM FOR BEING HERE. 
          UM, THEY ARE ALL WOMEN TODAY IN THE CLASS, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND FROM A MIXTURE OF STUDENTS, FROM FRESHMEN TO SENIORS, AND VERY HAPPY THAT THEY ARE ALL HERE TODAY. 
          NOW, WE, THEY'RE, THEY CAN BE HERE ONLY UNTIL 11. 
          SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE CAN DO OUR BUSINESS. 
          MAYOR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE. 
          WELCOME. 
          AND WE'LL DO OUR VERY BEST TO GET INTO A FEW ARGUMENTS FOR YOU. 
          [Consent Agenda]
UM, AT THIS POINT I'D LIKE TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY HAVE ANY ITEMS THEY PULL OFF OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE NO INDIVIDUAL ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          OKAY. 
          I HAVE ITEM NUMBER 21, 16, 8, AND 10. 
          ANY OTHERS? ANY, OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          12. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SAY FOR ITEMS 8, 10, 12, 16, AND 21. 
          MOTION TO APPROVE ITEMS, MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          NO, 17, PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION DIED. 
          WE'LL JUST MOTION FOR APPROVED THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION. 
          IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE, OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE BALANCE. 
          THE CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS ALL ITEMS SAY FOR 8, 10, 12, 17, 16, AND 21. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          MOVE TO THE 
          [8. An Ordinance for the Gillette Boulevard Street Reconstruction and
Drainage Improvements Project including an additive alternate
awarding a construction contract to R.L. Jones LP in the total amount
of $2,286,673.80, of which $146,800.00 will be reimbursed by CPS
Energy and $983,165.80 will be reimbursed by SAWS, a Stormwater
Operation Funded project, located in Council District 3. [Peter Zanoni,
Deputy City Manager; Mike Frisbie, Director, Transportation and
Capital Improvements]]
INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. 
          ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS AN ORDINANCE FOR THE GILLETTE BOULEVARD STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT, INCLUDING AN ADDITIVE ALTERNATIVE. 
          A WARNING, A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO R L JONES LP IN AN AMOUNT OF $2,286,673 AND 80 CENTS OF WHICH $146,800 WILL BE REIMBURSED BY C P S ENERGY. 
          AND $983,165 AND 80 CENTS WILL BE REIMBURSED BY SAWS, A STORMWATER OPERATION FUNDED PROJECT LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, COUNCILWOMAN GRO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE HAD A PRESENTATION OF, OR, UH, A SLIDE OF WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE. 
          THANK YOU NEFFY. 
          THE, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THE, UH, PROJECT LOCATED AT ON GILLETTE BOULEVARD. 
          I HAVE A MAP LOCATED IN COUNCIL. 
          DISTRICT THREE IS, UH, ON GILLETTE BOULEVARD BETWEEN, UH, MORRISON AND CLAMP AVENUE. 
          THE WORK IN THIS, UH, IN THIS TWO BLOCK AREA WILL INCLUDE SOME STREET RECONSTRUCTION AS WELL AS SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THAT AREA. 
          THERE'S A NUMBER OF, UH, LOCATIONS, THERE'S AND HOMES THAT RECEIVE WATER. 
          UH, THE PROJECT IS ANTICIPATED TO BEGIN IN JANUARY, THIS, THIS COMING JANUARY. 
          AND THE ESTIMATED COMPLETION WOULD BE MARCH 19TH. 
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IT WOULD INCLUDE, UH, RECONSTRUCTION OF SOME DRIVEWAYS, SIDEWALKS, AND CURBS. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED TO YOU, UH, SOME, AN UNDERGROUND DRAIN SYSTEM TO HELP ALLEVIATE WITH, UH, WITH SOME OF THE DRAINAGE CONCERNS IN THAT AREA. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S THE, THE AMOUNT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, NEFE FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I WANTED TO BE SURE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS BECAUSE THIS, UH, GILLETTE, IT DOES BORDER BETWEEN, UM, DISTRICTS THREE AND FOUR. 
          IT IS AN IMPORTANT AREA. 
          YES. 
          AND I KNOW WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON GILLETTE ALREADY, BUT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO, TO WORK ON THIS DRAINAGE ISSUE. 
          AND, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA HAVE BEEN WAITING A VERY LONG TIME FOR THIS. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE MOVING THIS FORWARD. 
          SO, WITH THAT, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ITEM 
          [10. An Ordinance, on behalf of CPS Energy, declaring the Southton
Substation and Transmission Project a public use project and
authorizing the acquisition through negotiation or condemnation of one
fee simple parcel, twenty-five permanent easement parcels and ten
temporary construction easement parcels located in Council District 3
to construct approximately 46,900 feet of transmission line starting at
the Braunig Power Plant located just southwest of Streich Road and
Old Corpus Christi Highway and extending in a northerly and westerly direction to Loop 410 just west of IH 37 in southern Bexar County.
[Peter Zanoni, Deputy City Manager; Mike Frisbie, Director,
Transportation & Capital Improvements]]
NUMBER 10, AND MAYOR, BEFORE WE GO ON, ITEMS NUMBER 22 A AND 22 B HAVE BEEN PULLED FROM THE AGENDA BY STAFF AND WILL NOT BE ADDRESSED TODAY. 
          SO GOING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 10. 
          ITEM NUMBER 10 IS AN ORDINANCE ON BEHALF OF C P S ENERGY DECLARING THE SOUTHTON SOUTHTON SUBSTATION AND TRANSMISSION PROJECT, A PUBLIC USE PROJECT AND AUTHORIZING THE ACQUISITION THROUGH NEGOTIATION OR CONDEMNATION OF ONE FEE, SIMPLE PARCEL 25 PERMANENT EASEMENT PARCELS AND 10 TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENT PARCELS LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT THREE TO CONSTRUCT APPROXIMATELY 46,900 FEET OF TRANSMISSION LINE, STARTING AT BROING POWER PLANT, LOCATED JUST SOUTHWEST OF STREAK ROAD AND OLD CORPUS CHRISTI HIGHWAY AND EXTENDING IN A NORTHERNLY AND WESTERN LEE DIRECTION TO LOOP FOUR 10 JUST WEST OF IH 37 IN SOUTHERN BEAR COUNTY, COUNCILWOMAN GRO. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          UM, THIS HAS BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH C P S AND THEY HAVE REACHED OUT TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IN THE COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY WITH PUBLIC MEETINGS AND ALSO BEING A PART OF OUR WORLD HERITAGE OPEN HOUSE. 
          AND IT'S A PART OF BUILDING UP THE CAPACITY THAT WE KNOW THAT IS HAPPENING IN NEAR, IN AROUND THE BROOKS REGIONAL CENTER TOO. 
          SO THIS WILL HELP WITH THAT CAPACITY. 
          UM, SO I MOVE THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AUTHORIZE THE USE OF THE POWER OF EMINENT DOMAIN TO ACQUIRE PRIVATELY OWNED REAL PROPERTY FOR A PUBLIC USE FOR THE CITY PUBLIC SERVICE C P S SOUTHTON SUBSTATION AND TRANSMISSION PROJECT BY ACQUIRING THE FOLLOWING PROPERTIES DESCRIBED BY THE CITY CLERK AND AND INCORPORATED AS PART OF THIS MOTION. 
          THE PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTIES FOR TEMPORARY CONSTRUCTION EASEMENTS AND PERMANENT ELECTRIC TRANSMISSION AND DISTRIBUTION LINE EASEMENT INTEREST LOCATED IN CITY COUNCIL. 
          DISTRICT THREE NEW CITY BLOCKS, 1 0 9 1 5 1 0 9 7 1 9 9 1 6 6 2 2 1 6 6 2 3 COUNTY BLOCK 4 0 6 9 B AND 4 0 7, AS WELL AS ONE FEE. 
          SIMPLE TITLE, INTEREST IN NEW CITY BLOCK 1 6 6 2 2. 
          THESE PROPERTIES ARE DEPICTED IN THE OVERALL PROJECT DRAWING MAPS IN EXHIBITS A THROUGH ONE AND MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED BY MEETS AND BOUNDS IN EXHIBITS A TWO THROUGH A 30 RESPECTIVELY ATTACHED AND INCORPORATED AS PART OF THIS MOTION. 
          THERE, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 10, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          [12. An Ordinance approving the submission of a Head Start grant
application to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and
authorizing acceptance upon award of an amount up to $22,706,657
for the period of February 1, 2018 to January 31, 2019; a budget of
$28,383,321, which includes an in-kind match of up to $5,676,664,
and a personnel complement of 95 positions for the Department of
Human Services; and Memoranda of Agreement with agencies to
support program services at no cost to the City or City’s clients. [María
Villagómez, Assistant City Manager; Melody Woosley, Director,
Human Services]]
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE SUBMISSION OF A HEADSTART GRANT APPLICATION TO THE US DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES AND AUTHORIZING ACCEPTANCE UPON AWARD OF AN AMOUNT UP TO $22,706,657 FOR THE PERIOD OF FEBRUARY 1ST, 2018, TWO JANUARY 31ST, 2019, A BUDGET OF $28,383,321, WHICH INCLUDES AN IN-KIND MATCH OF UP TO $5,676,664. 
          AND A PERMANENT OR A PERSONNEL COMPLIMENT OF 95 POSITIONS FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES. 
          A MEMORANDUM OF AN AGREEMENT WITH AGENCIES TO SUPPORT PROGRAM SERVICES AT NO COST TO THE CITY OR CITY'S CLIENTS. 
          COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, MS. WOOLLEY? YES. 
          UM, DID YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION? I DO. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL PULL THAT UP. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          SO, UM, THIS ITEM IS ACCEPTING OUR ANNUAL REFUNDING, UM, AMOUNT AWARD OF $22 MILLION. 
          UH, ON TOP OF THAT, WE DO PROVIDE A 20% IN KIND MATCH. 
          AND SO THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THE AWARD IS $28.3 MILLION. 
          UH, THE CITY, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES HAS BEEN THE HEAD START GRANTEE FOR OVER 30 YEARS. 
          AND OUR PRIMARY OVERSIGHT RESPONSIBILITY IN MANAGING THAT GRANT IS PROVIDING OPERATIONAL AND FISCAL OVERSIGHT GOVERNANCE OF THE PROGRAM, WHICH IS A SHARED GOVERNANCE BETWEEN HEAD START PARENTS AND THE CITY COUNCIL, AND ALSO TO SUPPORT THE, PROVIDE THE FAMILY SUPPORT AND MENTAL, WELL MENTAL WELLBEING SERVICES. 
          AND SO THE HEAD START PROGRAM SERVES THE MOST VULNERABLE CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES PROVIDES SERVICES TO SAN ANTONIO AND EDGEWOOD I S D CHILDREN. 
          UM, WE SERVE CHILDREN WHO ARE BELOW 125% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL WITH A HIGH PRIORITY ON THOSE WITH DISABILITIES, CHILDREN WHO ARE HOMELESS OR IN THE C P SS FO UH, SYSTEM, OR CHILDREN WHO ARE IN FOSTER CARE. 
          AND, UM, OUR TOTAL NUMBER OF CHILDREN SERVED IS AROUND 3020. 
          WE, UM, AS I SAID, WE CONTRACT WITH THE SAN ANTONIO, UH, INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE EDGEWOOD INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT TO PROVIDE THE EDUCATION SERVICES IN THEIR FACILITIES. 
          AND THE CITY HUMAN SERVICES EMPLOYS THE FAMILY SUPPORT WORKERS THAT PROVIDE WRAPAROUND COUNSELING AND HEALTH SERVICES TO FAMILIES. 
          SO, BUT THE 3020 CHILDREN THAT ARE SERVED ARE THE BOTH THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLD CHILDREN. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE TWENTY TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY THREE OF THE SLOTS ARE ALLOCATED TO SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT AND 777 TO EDGEWOOD I S D. 
          THE REFUNDING APPLICATION WAS DUE TO HAD, UH, H H S YESTERDAY ON NOVEMBER THE FIRST, THE GRANT PERIOD IS FEBRUARY THE FIRST, 2018 THROUGH JANUARY THE 31ST, UH, 2019. 
          AND AS, UM, THE CAPTION READ, THERE ARE 95 PERSONNEL IN OUR, OUR STAFFING COMPLIMENT AND THE BUDGET BROKEN DOWN. 
          SO PROGRAM OPERATIONS, 22.4 MILLION, UM, FOR A TOTAL OF 28 MILLION. 
          AND THAT INCLUDES OUR NON-FEDERAL SHARE, WHICH IS ALL IN KIND MATCH THINGS THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FACILITIES, OUR FACILITIES, SOME TIME OF, UH, STAFF WHO ARE NOT IN THE GRANT. 
          THAT'S HOW WE COME UP WITH THAT MATCH. 
          AND SO IT IS NOT A CASH MATCH AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS RECEIVE THE BULK OF THOSE FUNDS. 
          UM, A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE IS, UM, OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF THE PREVIOUS GRANT, INSTRUCTIONAL COACHES FOR TEACHERS AND AIDES TO IMPROVE THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT AS WELL AS BEHAVIORAL COACH SPECIALISTS TO HELP, UM, TEACHERS AND, AND SCHOOL DISTRICT STAFF, UH, WORK WITH FAMILIES AND CHILDREN WHEN THERE ARE BEHAVIOR CONCERNS IN THE CLASSROOMS, INSTRUCTION AND TEACHER QUALITY. 
          WE HAVE, UH, CREATED A SUMMER GRADUATE PROGRAM INSTITUTE FOR TEACHERS TO IMPROVE THEIR CREDENTIALS AND IN FAMILY SUPPORT. 
          WE'VE BEGUN, WELL, WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING LEAD SCREENINGS FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REFER FAMILIES TO THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY FOR THE GREEN AND HEALTHY HOME LED ABATEMENT PROGRAM. 
          AND SO I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM AND, UH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. 
          I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, IS THE CURRICULUM FOR HEAD START, UH, SET UNDER THE GUIDELINES FOR HEAD START? OR DO, IS THERE MORE LOCAL CONTROL OVER THE CURRICULUM THAT'S OFFERED THROUGH THE PROGRAM? SO THERE, THE, UH, WE HAVE A LOCAL CONTROL, WE HAVE CHOICE, BUT THERE ARE GUIDELINES SET BY HEAD START. 
          IN FACT, THEY, THEY GIVE US BASICALLY A, A SET OF OPTIONS THAT WE CAN USE FOR CURRICULUM. 
          SO IT, THEY, ALL OF THE CURRICULUMS THAT, THAT WE USE ARE, ARE ELIGIBLE, MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS AND REQUIREMENTS OF HEAD START. 
          IS THERE A CURRICULUM DIRECTOR? OVERSEE, OVERSEE? THERE'S A CURRICULUM DIRECTOR. 
          WE HAVE CONTENT EXPERTS IN ON OUR STAFF WHO, UH, WORK WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND FOLLOW UP WITH THEM REGARDING HEAD START REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE EARLY CHILDHOOD CURRICULUM DIRECTORS. 
          IS THE LIMITATION TO THOSE TWO SCHOOL DISTRICTS SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE FINANCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE. 
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THE COUNTY ACTUALLY HAS A TOTAL OF 6,789 SLOTS AND THERE ARE FIVE OTHER HEAD START PROVIDERS IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND SO WE'RE GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVIDED SO THAT ALL CHILDREN IN BEXAR COUNTY ARE SERVED BY THE PROGRAM. 
          HOW MANY TOTAL CHILDREN ARE THERE SERVED IN BEXAR COUNTY DID YOU SAY? 6,789. 
          OKAY. 
          AND MOST OF THOSE ACTUALLY ARE BEING DONE IN PARTNERSHIP WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          LET'S SEE. 
          OKAY, I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS FOR TODAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL, UH, OF ITEM NUMBER 12. 
          WE DO HAVE, UH, A COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS SIGN UP TO SPEAK. 
          SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          HI, MELODY. 
          HI. 
          UM, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS HERE. 
          THE HEAD, AND I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR WITH THESE PROGRAMS HERE, BUT, UH, OTHER THAN IT BEING A FEDERAL GRANT FOR THIS PROGRAM, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SAN ANTONIO, UM, GENERAL FUNDS, GENERAL FUNDS ASSIGNED TO THIS, IS THAT THE 5 MILLION OR WHATEVER THAT WAS? UH, THAT'S REALLY IN KIND AND THE, UH, OUR PARTNERS PROVIDE PART OF THAT IN KIND. 
          SO WE, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS USE THEIR FACILITIES AND UTILITY COSTS AS IN KIND FOR THE GRANT. 
          SO THERE'S NOT ANY CASH THAT'S BEING PUT INTO THE PROGRAM. 
          PART OF MY TIME WOULD BE USED AS IN KIND FOR THE GRANT. 
          I SEE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT ARE THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THIS HEAD START PROGRAM AND WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE FUNDING THE PRE-K FOR SA PROGRAM? WHAT, WHERE'S, WHERE ARE THE DIFFERENCES AT? RIGHT. 
          AND SO I WOULD SAY MAJOR DIFFERENCES, HEAD START SERVES THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS. 
          AND SO WE HAVE TWO YEARS OF SERVICES FOR CHILDREN. 
          UM, WE SERVE, OUR POPULATION IS SPECIFICALLY WE'RE, WE'RE MANDATED TO SERVE CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES, HOMELESS. 
          UM, THOSE IN THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM, PRE-K ALSO SERVES CHIL LOW INCOME AND, UM, DISABLED CHILDREN. 
          BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY MANDATED THAT A PORTION, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, 10% OF OUR, OUR CHILDREN SERVED ARE, ARE THOSE, UM, WITH DISABILITIES. 
          AND SO THAT'S A HIGH PRIORITY POPULATION. 
          AND OUR, OUR PROGRAM, UH, WE ALSO ARE BER BRAIDING FUNDING WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO IT'S A TRUE PARTNERSHIP AND THAT'S HEAD START. 
          UH, FUNDS WILL PAY FOR HALF A DAY OF, OF CHILDCARE, UH, EARLY EDUCATION, AND THEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PRE-K DOLLARS PAY FOR THE OTHER HALF OF THE DAY SO THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PUT THOSE DOLLARS TOGETHER AND MAKE SURE THAT CHILDREN ARE ENROLLED IN FULL DAY EARLY EDUCATION, UH, WHICH IS RESEARCH SHOWS IS, IS A MUCH HIGHER VALUE AND QUALITY, UM, THAN HALF DAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, SO THERE ARE SOME OVERLAPS BETWEEN PRE-K FOR SA AND THIS HEAD START PROGRAM. 
          WE BOTH SERVE FOUR YEAR OLD CHILDREN. 
          UH, BUT THERE ARE, THERE ARE ENOUGH CHILDREN THAT THERE'S NOT, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S PROBABLY 35,003 AND FOUR YEAR OLD CHILDREN IS WHAT OUR LAST COMMUNITY ASSESSMENT SHOWS. 
          AND SO IF WE'RE SERVING 7,000 IN HEAD START TOTAL, PRE-K SERVES ANOTHER 2000. 
          UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT DUPLICATION THERE. 
          THERE'S THERE'S PLENTY OF CHILDREN THAT ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAMS. RIGHT. 
          BUT I MEAN, COUNCILMAN, I THINK, UM, CITY MANAGER SCHOLARLY HAD SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION TO YOUR QUESTION. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UM, A COUPLE OF POINTS. 
          UH, THE PRE-K FOR ESSAY PROGRAM, UM, I THINK THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCES WOULD BE MASTER CERTIFIED EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATORS. 
          SO THE PRE-K FOR ESSAY PROGRAM IS MORE ACADEMICALLY RIGOROUS. 
          UH, IT IS, AS I SAID, SMALL CLASSROOMS WITH, UH, HIGHLY TRAINED TEACHERS, UH, AND TEACHER ASSISTANTS. 
          SO WE AVERAGE ABOUT 15 STUDENTS IN A CLASSROOM. 
          UM, OURS, OUR PROGRAM, THE PRE-K PROGRAM IS SERVING ALSO, UH, SOME OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IS IN THE GREATEST NEED. 
          SO IT IS FREE TO THOSE WHO QUALIFY, UH, BASED UPON THE, UH, INCOME REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND WE ALLOCATE 20% OF THE PROGRAM FOR THOSE FAMILIES WHO ARE, UH, WORKING FAMILIES, BUT JUST ABOVE THE INCOME REQUIREMENTS, BUT COULD NOT AFFORD A FULL DAY PRE-K PROGRAM. 
          PRE-K FOR SA ALSO PROVIDES EXTENDED DAY. 
          SO FOR WORKING FAMILIES OR SINGLE PARENTS, UH, THE HEAD START PROGRAM ENDS AT 3:00 PM FOR EXAMPLE, UH, OUR PROGRAM GOES UNTIL 6:00 PM SO THAT WORKING FAMILIES, UM, CAN ENROLL THEIR CHILDREN AND THEY CAN BE THERE FOR THE FULL DAY BECAUSE MOST PARENTS DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR THE KIDS TO GO, UH, BETWEEN THREE AND 6:00 PM I 
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THINK THE GREATEST DIFFERENCES ARE THERE WERE, AND WE IDENTIFIED AS WE DEVELOPED THE PRE-K PROGRAM, HOW MANY CHILDREN ARE STILL NOT BEING SERVED, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A HEAD START PROGRAM. 
          UH, THERE WERE STILL NEARLY 5,004 YEAR OLDS THAT DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO A EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION PROGRAM. 
          SO EVEN WITH ALL OF THOSE BEING SERVED THROUGH HEADSTART, WHICH IS A GOOD PROGRAM, WE IDENTIFIED OTHER CHILDREN AND DEVELOPED THIS PROGRAM AT THE DIRECTION OF THE BRAIN POWER TASK FORCE CO-CHAIRED BY GENERAL ROBLES AND CHARLES BUTT AND EDUCATORS AND BUSINESS LEADERS TO BE AN ACADEMICALLY RIGOROUS PROGRAM WITH THE GOAL THAT THE CHILDREN THAT GRADUATE FROM THE PRE-K FOR ESSAY PROGRAM WOULD BE READING BY THE END OF SECOND GRADE AT THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL. 
          IT WAS ONE OF THE, THE MAJOR TARGETS. 
          SO THE TEACHERS AT HEAD START, UH, DON'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE AT THE PRE-K FOR ESSAY PROGRAM. 
          UH, OURS IS MULTI-DISCIPLINED. 
          IT'S NOT JUST, UH, EDUCATION, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY, UH, BROAD IN TERMS OF ITS SCOPE OF TEACHING, UM, EXTENSIVE METRICS TO EVALUATE HOW THE CHILDREN PERFORM COMING INTO THE PROGRAM. 
          AND THEN AS THEY LEAVE THE PROGRAM, UM, AND THE TEACHERS ARE MASTER CERTIFIED EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATORS. 
          SO ACADEMICALLY, IT'S, UM, IT'S STEPS ABOVE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE, UH, AT THE HEAD START PROGRAM. 
          AND THAT WAS, UH, SOME OF THE GOALS. 
          HOW DO WE IMPROVE THAT EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION? THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T ACCEPT THE FEDERAL, FEDERAL DOLLARS AND UNDERTAKE A HEAD START PROGRAM BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY CHILDREN IN NEED OF SOME KIND OF EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. 
          BUT PRE-K FOR ESSAY, UM, IS SEVERAL STEPS ABOVE THAT QUITE CANDIDLY. 
          AND WE STILL HAVE A WAITING LIST FOR THE PRE-K FOR ESSAY PROGRAM, AND ALWAYS DO WE MORE PEOPLE WANT TO GET INTO OUR PROGRAM BECAUSE IT IS FULL DAY, EXTENDED DAY AND BECAUSE OF THE HIGH QUALITY OF THE PROGRAM. 
          SO THERE ARE DIFFERENCES. 
          WE ARE NOT DUPLICATING AND THERE ARE STILL CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UM, ARE UNDERSERVED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          UM, I, I STILL SEE SOME DUPLICATIVE EFFORTS HERE BETWEEN THE TWO SYSTEMS. I'D LIKE TO JUST, UH, EXPLORE THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND IF YOU CAN PULL SOMETHING TOGETHER ON SHOWING WHAT THOSE, UH, DIFFERENCES ARE BETWEEN THE TWO, I I'D SURE LIKE TO LOOK AT. 
          I, MY CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A FEDERAL PROGRAM, WE'VE GOT A LOCAL PROGRAM, AND THEN WE'VE GOT A SCHOOL DISTRICT PROGRAM. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THREE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS HERE THAT WE'RE REALLY DEALING WITH HERE. 
          AND, UM, UH, A LOT OF MONEY IS GOING TOWARDS THIS. 
          SO, UM, IT'LL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE METRICS ARE ON, UH, THE RESULTS, UH, UH, OUR RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND, UH, TO SEE WHAT, UH, THE EXPECTATIONS ARE AND, AND WHAT WE'RE GETTING FOR THAT. 
          SO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT MORE CLOSELY. 
          UM, BECAUSE WHEN, WHEN DOES THAT COME UP FOR REAUTHORIZATION? FOR PRE-K FOR SA? 2020. 
          2020, OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          SO WE'RE IN YEAR FIVE. 
          IT WAS AN EIGHT YEAR, ONE EIGHTH CENT SALES TAX APPROVED BY THE VOTERS IN 2012. 
          AND SO IN 2020, BUT WE'LL BEGIN THE ANALYSIS AND PROCESS WELL IN ADVANCE OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK WE'LL PROBABLY START THAT NEXT YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, WELL, IF, IF I COULD GET SOMEONE TO COME IN AND TALK TO ME ABOUT THE, THOSE, UH, UH, EFFORTS BETWEEN THE, THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. 
          I APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          COUNCILMAN TINO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, RE QUESTION WITH, WITH, UH, DC UM, THE WAY IT IS AT RIGHT CURRENT STATES, UH, IS THERE ANY INFORMATION REGARDING THE, ANY THREATS TO, TO FUNDING OF HEAD STARTS? WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY INDICATION THAT HEAD START FUNDING WOULD BE ON A, A REDUCTION LIST. 
          UM, WE'VE LOOKED THROUGH THE DIFFERENT BUDGETS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED AND, AND REALLY THEY'RE SILENT ON HEAD START AND OUR CHILDCARE SUBSIDY PROGRAM. 
          SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE, WE ARE STAYING IN TOUCH WITH THAT. 
          WE'RE IN TOUCH WITH THE NATIONAL HEAD START ASSOCIATION AND, AND TO DATE THAT THE REDUCTIONS HAVEN'T BEEN, UM, PROPOSED OR MENTIONED. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, MELODY. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          YOU MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN TREVINO. 
          COUNCILWOMAN GRO. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR PULLING THIS TOO. 
          SO WE COULD HIGHLIGHT THAT. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND WITH ALL OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES. 
          AND, UM, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AND WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, I THINK WE ALSO NEED 
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TO REMEMBER, YES, THIS IS THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A HUGE RESPONSIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION AND THAT ZERO TO THREE, AND WE STILL HAVE A FAR WAY TO GO WITH THE CITY. 
          SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO CHIP AWAY AT THAT ZERO TO THREE, EVEN IF IT'S WORKING WITH THREE YEAR OLDS, I THINK IS IMPORTANT. 
          AND I ALSO WANT TO, UM, KNOW WE JUST VOTED AND APPROVED THE NEW BOARD MEMBERS FOR PRE-K FOR ESSAY. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR YOUR, YOUR WORK AND SARAH, YOUR WORK AS WELL. 
          AND THANK YOU TO CHERYL, OUR CITY MANAGER, UH, FOR BEING SO, UH, WELL VERSED IN KNOWING THAT PRE-K FOR ESSAY AND ALL OF THESE THINGS. 
          SO, UM, BACKWARDS AND FORWARDS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. 
          AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING AND YOUR TEAM'S DOING MELODY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN GRO, COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I JUST WANT TO PIGGYBACK A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT COUNCILMAN PERRY WAS SAYING. 
          SO, AND THEN, UH, IN REFERENCE TO THE MANAGER'S COMMENTS AS WELL ABOUT, UH, THE DUPLICATIVE EFFORTS BETWEEN THE TWO. 
          SO IF I HEARD THE MANAGER CORRECTLY, UM, PRE-K EXCEEDS PRE-K FOUR SA EXCEEDS THE, THE STANDARD, RIGHT? SO A HEAD START IS A BASE LEVEL WORK, AND THEN PRE-K'S COMING OVER THE TOP AND, AND IT'S A GREATER, IT'S LONGER PERIODS OF, UM, EDUCATION. 
          IT'S HOW WOULD YOU, I MEAN, WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE A FAIR ASSESSMENT THAT HEAD START IS ONE LEVEL AND THEN PRE-K COMES IN OVER THE TOP AND DOES FAR MORE TO ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AUDIENCE PROVIDES MORE? SO, SO HEAD START DOES HAVE A VERY LONG LIST OF STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS, AND PRE-K FOR SA GOES STEPS FURTHER IN IMPROVING THE QUALITY. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, OUR, OUR RATIO OF CHILDREN TO TEACHERS IS TWO TEACHERS TO 22 CHILDREN IN THE FOUR YEAR OLD CLASSROOMS. PRE-K FOR SA IS 15 CHILDREN IN THE CLASSROOM. 
          SO THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. 
          AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, CITY MANAGER SAID THERE ARE, UH, A, A HOST OF ADDITIONAL ACTIVITIES AND THE TEACHERS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HIGHER QUALIFICATION. 
          WE DO HAVE A BACHELOR DEGREE TEACHER AT MINIMUM IN EVERY CLASSROOM WITH EXPERIENCE IN EARLY CHILDHOOD, BUT THEY ARE NOT MASTER CERTIFIED TEACHERS. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, I, I, I WOULD, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, AND I'M, I'M GONNA AGREE WITH THE COUNCIL, THE COUNCILMAN THAT, UH, WE PROBABLY SHOULD EXAMINE THAT. 
          UM, AND, AND I, I JUST FROM WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT GO BEYOND WITH PRE-K FOR SA. 
          UM, SO I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, IN THE SAME INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DUPLICATING, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS YOU DO, FOR INSTANCE, COULD SOME OF THAT MONEY BE PUSHED MORE TO HEAD START TO JUST EXPAND WHAT YOU'RE DOING AS OPPOSED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SALES TAX MONEY GENERATED GOING TOWARDS, UH, THE PRE-K FOR SA PROGRAM? IS THERE, IS THERE DUPLICATING THERE OR REDUNDANCIES THAT WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, SAVE MONEY IN A PARTICULAR ONE OR THE OTHER ORGANIZATION? I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT, IT APPEARS TO ME JUST BASED ON HIS QUESTIONS AND THOUGHTS THAT I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, DIGGING INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. 
          SO I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. 
          I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE, OBVIOUSLY OF THE HEAD START PROGRAM. 
          THAT'S NOT THE, THE, THE POINT I'M TRYING, WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS WHAT ARE WE DOING, UM, AS WE GROW, AS WE MOVE INTO THIS EVALUATION PERIOD WITH, UH, PRE-K OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, UM, HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT WE'RE USING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING EFFORT, RIGHT? UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I HAD AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION WITH, UM, THE, THE C E O, THE DIRECTOR OVER THERE OF PRE-K AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND METRICS BEING UTILIZED, HOW WE'RE GONNA MEASURE THESE SUCCESSES WHEN THE TIME COMES AND THAT EVALUATION PERIOD HAPPENS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE DR. 
          BARRY MADE A POINT THAT, UM, ONCE THEY'RE FINISHED AT PRE-K, UH, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAKES 'EM, AND THEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT THAT POINT, THEIR LEVEL OF SUCCESS IS ALSO GONNA AFFECT THE METRICS OR MEASUREMENTS OF, OF PRE-K I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY PRE-K HAS 'EM FOR A COUPLE YEARS AND THEY GO INTO THE SYSTEM AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THEN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS 'EM AND, AND THEN THE LEVEL OF CARE AT THAT POINT THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ENACTS. 
          SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW THAT TOO. 
          LIKE, HOW, WHAT ARE THOSE, WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MEASUREMENTS AND SUCCESSES? WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA MEASURE PREK, HOW ARE WE MEASURING YOUR SUCCESS AS WELL? UH, SO I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD EXERCISE, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE DOING, HOW DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT RIGHT. 
          ARE THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS. 
          UH, AND AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A LONG-TERM GOAL TOO, BECAUSE IT, IT COULD BE THAT WE, WE ALLOCATE MORE FUNDS AND RESOURCES TO YOU AS OPPOSED TO THE TENS OF MILLIONS GOING THE OTHER DIRECTION. 
          UH, SO IT WOULD BE A GOOD TO SEE HOW YOUR, WHAT YOUR SUCCESSES ARE HISTORICALLY WITH THE CHILDREN THAT YOU'RE EDUCATING, UH, AND YOU'RE HELPING, RIGHT, THOSE THREE AND FOUR YEAR OLDS, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY'RE IN SECOND AND THIRD GRADE VERSUS WHEN WE COME INTO PRE-K. 
          'CAUSE WE WOULD WANT TO, I THINK WE'D WANNA USE THAT AS A BASELINE. 
          I MEAN, COUNCILMAN, I THINK, UH, CITY MANAGER SCULLY HAS SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT AS WELL, MAYOR, JUST TO SAY THAT MELODY'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HEAD START PROGRAM, DR. 
          SARAH BARRE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PRE-K FOR ESSAY. 
          AND I WOULD RECOMMEND TO THE COUNCIL THAT 
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WE SCHEDULE A B SESSION WHERE WE CAN HAVE, UH, PRESENTATIONS ABOUT THE VARIETY OF PROGRAMS. UH, WE'RE NOT DUPLICATING IN THE SENSE OF THE SAME CHILDREN GOING TO THE SAME TO MULTIPLE PROGRAMS, BUT RATHER WE'RE SERVICING, WE'RE TRYING TO SERVICE ALL OF THOSE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, UH, SO THAT THEY ALL HAVE ACCESS AND, UH, TO EARLY CHILDHOOD EDUCATION. 
          SO, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'LL NEED TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNCIL. 
          THESE QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP BEFORE AS NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE, UH, JOINED THE COUNCIL AND WE'VE DONE THESE ANALYSES. 
          SO WE'LL SCHEDULE A B SESSION THEN, UH, TO HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION IF YOU'D LIKE. 
          WELL, THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE EXACT ANSWER TO MY, MY COMMENTARIES  . 
          SO, SO I, YES. 
          UH, BUT NO, I DO APPRECIATE IT, AND I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE MEASURE AND, AND THE WORK YOU'RE DOING WITH, WITH HEADSTART. 
          I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A PROVEN METRIC OVER THE YEARS, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION TO FIND OUT, UH, JUST WHAT THAT DIFFERENCE IS BETWEEN PRE-K AND, AND THE MONEY WE'RE PUTTING INTO THAT VERSUS THE SUCCESS THAT HEADSTART HAS HAD OVER THE YEARS. 
          SO IT'S GONNA BE A VERY INTERESTING DIALOGUE AND DISCUSSION. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOOD WORK AND YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN BRONK HOUSE. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 12, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ITEM NUMBER 16. 
          [16. An Ordinance authorizes a professional services agreement with
PAVLOV Advertising, LLC for on-call advertising and marketing
services for the San Antonio Airport System in the amount not to
exceed $4,000,000.00 for a three-year term with the option to extend
for two, one-year periods. [Carlos Contreras, Assistant City Manager;
Russell Handy, Director, Aviation]]
THANK YOU. 
          ITEM NUMBER 16 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZED IN A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH PAVLO ADVERTISING L L C FOR AN ON-CALL ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SERVICES FOR SAN ANTONIO AIRPORT SYSTEM IN THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $4 MILLION FOR A THREE YEAR TERM WITH AN OPTION TO EXTEND FOR TWO ONE YEAR PERIODS. 
          MAYOR MEMBERS COUNCIL, UM, HERE WITH AN ITEM TO AWARD A CONTRACT FOR OUR, UM, ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SERVICES FOR THE SAN ANTONIO AIRPORT SYSTEM. 
          UH, HAVE A SHORT BRIEFING IF YOU'D LIKE, OR I'M READY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. 
          COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          GOOD MORNING, RUSS. 
          UH, I'D LOVE TO HEAR THE BRIEFING AND THEN ASK ANY QUESTIONS AFTER THAT. 
          OH, FANTASTIC. 
          GREAT. 
          SO, ON SLIDE TWO, WE'VE GOT THE THREE MAIN AREAS THAT WE REQUIRE SERVICES FROM A MARKETING AND ADVERTISING FIRM. 
          UM, SO IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          HERE WE GO. 
          SORRY. 
          UM, SO THE AIRPORT SYSTEM REQUIRES AN ADVERTISING MARKETING FIRM TO, TO BOTH MANAGE ITS MARKETING PROGRAM, UH, AND ALSO PICK UP ANY OTHER, UH, PIECES OF OUR MARKETING STRATEGY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. 
          WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE ARE THE THREE MAIN AREAS OUR PREVIOUS MARKETING FIRM FOCUSED ON, AND WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAMS. ONE IS THE AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          AS PART OF THE, THE FEDERALLY CONTROLLED AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE PROGRAM, WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER MARKETING INCENTIVES TO AIRLINES THAT BRING NEW AIR SERVICE, UH, TO TARGET PRIORITY MARKETS. 
          AND WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN EMPLOYING THAT TO, UH, HELP AIRLINES GET STARTED, IF YOU WILL, IN THEIR MARKETING STRATEGY AND TO CONTINUE THOSE PROFITABLE ROUTES. 
          UH, THE NEXT CATEGORY OF MARKETING THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IS OUR CONCESSION MARKETING PROGRAM. 
          CONCESSION TENANTS CONTRIBUTE TO A FUND, UH, FOR ADVERTISING AND MARKETING SERVICES THAT GOES INTO OUR REVENUE. 
          AND PART OF THAT FUND THEN PAYS FOR THIS MARKETING CONTRACT. 
          AND THE GOAL IS REALLY TO, UH, INCREASE AWARENESS OF OUR WONDERFUL CONCESSIONS, INCREASE SALES AND REVENUE. 
          THE FIRM SUPPORTS THEIR MARKETING EFFORTS, A DEDICATED WEBSITE DIRECTORY MAPS. 
          THEY ALSO HANDLE MYSTERY SHOPPER PROGRAMS AND OTHER, UH, INCENTIVES FOR OUR CONCESSIONS. 
          AND FINALLY, UH, THE CITY CREATED AND BRANDED A CAMPAIGN CALLED THE MEET ME CAMPAIGN BACK IN 2012. 
          AND IT'S REALLY A WAY OF BRANDING, UH, CENTRAL AND SOUTH TEXAS TO OUR MEXICO MARKET. 
          IT TARGETS RESIDENTS AND MEXICAN NATIONALS WHO DRIVE FROM SAN ANTONIO, UH, AND, AND TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO UNDERSTAND THE FLIGHT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, AND THE FACT THAT WE OFFER MORE THAN 50 FLIGHTS TO MEXICO, UH, EVERY DAY. 
          AND IT INVOLVES, UH, AREA MALLS, UH, ADVERTISEMENTS, BILLBOARDS, DIGITAL MEDIA, UH, SIGNS ALONG THE INTERSTATES TOO, AND FROM MEXICO, UH, AS WELL. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, IN ADDITION TO THESE THREE PROGRAMS, WE HAVE A STRATEGIC MARKETING PLAN, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT IS EVOLVING AND IT LOOKS AT MARKETING NEEDS. 
          AND THIS FIRM WILL HELP US MANAGE THAT, UH, TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE HIGH TECH MARKETING REQUIREMENTS, SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGEMENT, ET CETERA. 
          IN THE SOLICITATION. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ADVERTISING AGENCY THAT WILL COLLABORATE TO SUCCESSFULLY COMMUNICATE ALL THE, THE MESSAGES TO OUR PASSENGERS, OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, THE SELECTED VENDOR MANAGES, EXECUTES, INTEGRATED MARKETING STRATEGIES, UH, FOR THAT, THOSE THREE PROGRAMS. AND THE SCOPE OF WORK, MAIN GRAPHIC DESIGN, PRINT, MEDIA, VIDEO PRODUCTION, DIGITAL, UH, PUBLIC RELATIONS STRATEGIES, WHICH YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE IS A TIMELINE. 
          UH, WE WENT TO PRES SOLICITATION ON, UH, MAY 30TH 
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RELEASED AND GOT FIVE PROPOSALS. 
          FOUR OF THEM WERE RESPONSIVE, ONE WAS MISSING, UH, MANY DOCUMENTS. 
          SO WE EVALUATED FOUR PROPOSALS AND, UH, SCORED THEM. 
          UM, AND, UH, IT WAS TAKEN TO AUDIT COMMITTEE, UH, ON THE 3RD OF OCTOBER. 
          AND WE'RE HERE TODAY TO REQUEST AWARD FROM THE SCORING PAV LAW OF ADVERTISING, UH, RANKED, UH, BY FAR THE NUMBER ONE FIRM, UH, WITH 91.9 POINTS. 
          UM, ABOUT 40 POINTS AHEAD OF THE, UH, OF THE OTHER FIRM THAT WE INTERVIEWED. 
          UH, BOTH FIRMS RECEIVED THE FULL 20 POINTS FOR MEETING AND EXCEEDING WE MEANING OR EXCEEDING THE, UH, FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION'S, A C D B E REQUIREMENT. 
          THEIR GOAL IS 12%. 
          UM, SO PAVLOV'S CLIENTS, UH, INCLUDE A WIDE VARIETY OF BUSINESSES, BUT WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON THEIR AIRPORT EXPERIENCE. 
          THEY HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE AT D F W AS WELL AS THE FORT WORTH TRANSPORTATION AUTHORITY. 
          THEY'RE ALSO VIAS, UH, MARKETING COMPANY. 
          THEY HAVE TWO LOCAL SUBCONTRACTORS, AON ASSOCIATES, UH, AON, UH, ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 15% OF THE SCOPE OF WORK, AND THEY'RE REALLY GOOD AT EVENT MANAGEMENT AND TRANSLATION SERVICES IN THE LOCAL MARKET. 
          UH, AND K G B TEXAS, WHO, WHO I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH, UH, THEY MAKE UP ABOUT 42% OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. 
          UH, AND AGAIN, THEY HAVE A, A HUGE LOCAL PRESENCE HERE, A LOCAL COMPANY TO HELP PAVLOV, UH, ADMINISTER THEIR PROGRAM. 
          THE CONTRACT IS, IS AN, UH, AS NEEDED CONTRACT. 
          SO WE PUT CAPACITY ON THERE AND WE DRAW IT AS NEEDED BECAUSE THE MARKETING REQUIREMENTS DO EBB AND FLOW, UH, DEPENDING UPON THE MARKET AND, AND OUR AIR SERVICE AND, AND CONCESSIONS BUSINESSES. 
          UH, IT'S AN $800,000 PER YEAR CAPACITY. 
          AGAIN, WE ONLY USE WHAT WE NEED, THREE YEAR CONTRACT WITH AN OPTION TO EXTEND FOR TWO ONE YEAR PERIODS. 
          UH, AND UH, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I WOULD REQUEST THE AWARD OF THE CONTRACT TO PAVLOV OF AN ASSOCIATES COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, RUSS, FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE GONNA DO GREAT THINGS, UH, LIKE THE STRATEGY THAT YOU LAID OUT FOR THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT THEY'LL BE, UH, THAT THEY'LL BE WORKING ON. 
          COULD YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE OUTCOME OF THEIR WORK AT FORT WORTH AND D F W? SO, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTED US TO THE COMPANY THAT'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. 
          AND WE ALSO, UH, WE SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME INTERACTING, UH, WITH, WITH COMPANIES AND, AND CITIES THAT THESE MARKETING FIRMS, UH, SERVICE. 
          SO WE MAKE PHONE CALLS AND, AND DO DUE DILIGENCE. 
          AND, AND WE GOT VERY, VERY POSITIVE REVIEWS, NOT JUST IN THEIR OUTCOME AND THEIR MARKETING OUTCOME, BUT THEIR, THEIR SERVICE, THEIR RESPONSIVENESS. 
          AND, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE STRONG POINTS. 
          GREAT. 
          AND I WAS LOOKING AT THE SCORES. 
          THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THOSE. 
          UH, IT'S STRIKING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO. 
          UM, IT'S ALMOST LIKE, WHY DID NUMBER TWO EVEN SUBMIT? SO CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? I WOULD HAVE EXPECTED THIS BID AT $4 MILLION TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE THAN THAT. 
          SO THE PROPOSALS WERE CLOSER. 
          AND SO WHAT WE DID IS WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THESE TWO, AND FRANKLY, THEY WERE CLOSER ON PAPER. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE INTERVIEWED AND WE BROUGHT THEM OUT. 
          AND WHAT WE CHOSE TO DO IN THIS CASE IS GIVE THEM A SCENARIO. 
          UH, SO WE GAVE THEM A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, A A NEW, UH, AIR SERVICE ROUTE, UH, AND ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, DIFFICULT PROBLEM, UH, WITH REGARD TO CONCESSIONS MARKETING. 
          AND WE SAID, HEY, GIVE US YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          TELL US HOW YOU WOULD HANDLE THAT. 
          BECAUSE REALLY THAT'S WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD. 
          HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE THEY GONNA DO THAT? AND, AND PAVLOV WAS JUST FAR SUPERIOR IN THE WAY THEY, THEY HANDLED IT. 
          UH, THE NUMBER TWO FIRM, UM, YOU KNOW, HAD A NUMBER OF ERRORS JUST IN THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF THE MARKET AND, AND JUST WASN'T PRESENTED VERY WELL. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAUSED US TO, TO SCORE IT MUCH HIGHER IN PERFORMANCE. 
          UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, RUSS. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE APPROVAL OF THE ITEM, MAYOR. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 17. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER SIGNED UP TO, UH, COMMENT. 
          COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, RUSS, IF WE COULD GO BACK TO, UH, I THINK IT WAS THE SECOND SLIDE. 
          UH, AND YOU TALKED ABOUT AIR SERVICE INCENTIVE PROGRAM AS PART OF THE MARKETING, AND IT, IT LOOKED TO ME AS WHAT YOU WERE DESCRIBING AS KIND OF A, A CO-MARKETING WITH THE AIRLINES. 
          SO THIS, UH, COMPANY WILL WORK WITH THEM TO KIND OF CO-MARKET SAN ANTONIO AND CO-MARKET THEIR AIRLINE FLIGHTS. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THIS PARTICULAR CATEGORY IS REALLY PART OF A, A VERY TIGHTLY REGULATED PROGRAM. 
          UM, THE F A A HAS VERY SPECIFIC GUIDELINES FOR HOW AIRPORTS CAN OFFER INCENTIVES. 
          CITIES, CORPORATION, UH, GROUPS OF, UH, CORPORATE, UH, CONSORTIUMS. THEY CAN OFFER ALL KINDS OF SUBSIDIES AND, YOU KNOW, RISK MANAGEMENT MONEY. 
          BUT IF IT'S WITHIN THE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FUND, IT'S VERY TIGHTLY REGULATED. 
          SO WE HAVE A, A, A PROGRAM THAT WE OFFER THAT, THAT AUTHORIZES US TO OFFER INCENTIVES, AND IT VARIES. 
          UM, FOR EXAMPLE, WE OFFER, UH, MORE FOR A NEW NONSTOP ROUTE TO A PRIORITY MARKET, ONE THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS ONE THAT WE REALLY NEED, UH, THAN, THAN WE DO TO ONE THAT MAYBE IS A NEW NONSTOP, BUT NOT 
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AS HIGH A PRIORITY. 
          UH, WE OFFER A HIGHER INCENTIVE FOR INTERNATIONAL, UH, SERVICE. 
          LIKE AIR CANADA WAS ELIGIBLE FOR UPWARDS OF $300,000 OF, OF INCENTIVE, UH, DOLLARS BECAUSE, UH, IT'S A BIG DEAL TO GET NEW INTERNATIONAL TRAFFIC, AND IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO, TO MARKET, YOU KNOW, THE INTERNATIONAL MARKET. 
          SO WITHIN THAT PROGRAM, THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC WAYS THAT WE CAN OFFER THAT MONEY. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHERE THE PARTNERSHIP COMES IN. 
          AND SO THE AIRLINES WILL ALSO DO A LOT OF THEIR OWN MARKETING AND OFFER A LOT OF THEIR OWN FUNDS, BUT WE'RE ALL ABLE TO ESSENTIALLY TO AUGMENT THAT. 
          AND THE BEAUTY OF IT IS OUR COMPANY, UH, PAVLOV IN THIS CASE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK DIRECTLY WITH THE AIRLINES AND HELP THEM BUILD THAT PROGRAM. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, ANOTHER PART YOU HAD WAS CONCESSION MARKETING. 
          AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY I DON'T EVER REMEMBER ANY KIND OF A CONCESSION BEING MARKETED TO ME AS A CONSUMER, WHETHER I WAS FLYING OR THINKING OF FLYING. 
          HOW DO WE MARKET CONCESSIONS AT THE AIRPORT TO PEOPLE? WELL, AND, AND I'LL, TO, TO BE TOTALLY TRANSPARENT, I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE AS, AS WELL AS WE COULD IN THAT AREA. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FOCUS POINTS WE PUT IN THE R F P AND ONE OF THE EMPHASIS ITEMS AS WE INTERVIEWED. 
          UH, WE DO HAVE A PROGRAM NOW THAT WE HAVE STARTED RECENTLY THAT'S AN INCENTIVE PROGRAM, UH, THAT, THAT OFFERS, UH, PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO GET POINTS. 
          SO WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY EAT IN A CONCESSION OR A FOOD AND BEVERAGE, OR THEY BUY SOMETHING FROM A RETAIL, THEY GET POINTS THAT THEY CAN THEN, UH, REDEEM AT ANY OF OUR CONCESSION PROGRAMS. THAT'S REALLY BECOMING QUITE POPULAR. 
          IT, IT USES A CREATIVE, UH, ELECTRONIC SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, UM, TECHNIQUE. 
          UM, THERE ARE SALES TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT WE GET INTO WHERE WE WORK WITH THE CONCESSIONS ON, ON, UH, THOSE, THERE'S A MYSTERY SHOPPER PROGRAM, UH, THAT ALSO OFFERS AWARDS AND THE ABILITY TO REDEEM. 
          UH, BUT I THINK WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS THAT PAVLOV PRESENTED A VERY CREATIVE PLAN, UH, ON HOW TO EVEN DO BETTER. 
          CONCESSIONS ARE A BIG PART OF OUR REVENUE MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UM, AND WHEN IT COMES TO NON-AIR AIRLINE REVENUE, EVERY DOLLAR THAT WE GAIN MORE IN NON-AIR AIRLINE REVENUE MEANS OUR, OUR AIRLINE FEES CAN BE DOLLAR LOWER, WHICH MEANS RATES ARE LOWER. 
          AND SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO TRY TO MAXIMIZE THAT. 
          YEAH. 
          I NOTICED YOU INDICATED, UM, I THINK ONE OF THE SUBCONTRACTORS IS GONNA BE DOING ABOUT 15% OF THE WORK, AND YOU, UH, DESCRIBED EVENT MANAGEMENT AND, AND SOME OTHER THINGS, MARKETING MATERIALS. 
          AND THEN K G B T WAS GONNA BE DOING 42% OF THE WORK, BUT YOU REALLY LAID, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS LAID OUT FOR THEM. 
          MANAGEMENT STRATEGY, CREATIVE, PUBLIC RELATIONS, PUBLIC AFFAIRS, MEDIA PLANNING. 
          WHAT DOES PAVLOV DO? SO, 'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THESE TWO ARE DOING A LOT OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO I THINK, UH, THE, THE BEST WAY I CAN DESCRIBE IT BASED ON, UH, ON THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO US IS MOST EVERYTHING ON THAT LIST THAT, THAT K G B IS DOING, PAVLOV IS ADMINISTERING, YOU KNOW, FROM A STRATEGIC PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, AND THEY'RE PARTNERING. 
          AND SO THEY'RE ALL, THEY'RE BOTH DOING ALL OF THOSE. 
          UM, AND, AND IT'S, AND IT'S A GLOBAL EFFORT. 
          SO WE'LL DO INTERNATIONAL MARKETING MARKETING ACROSS THE NATION. 
          UH, SO, SO PAVLOV WILL BE DOING A LOT OF THAT WORK AND OFFERING A LOT OF THAT AIRPORT EXPERTISE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, AND K G B WILL BE THE LOCAL ARM OF THAT BECAUSE A HUGE PART OF OUR MARKETING'S LOCAL AND THEY REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT LOCAL MARKET. 
          SO THE LIST IS VERY SIMILAR, REALLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND THE 4 MILLION IS THE TOTAL AMOUNT THAT WILL BE PAID OUT. 
          UH, IF WE ONLY GO THREE YEARS, IT MIGHT BE 800,000 A YEAR FOR THREE YEARS. 
          CORRECT. 
          IF WE EXTEND IT TO FIVE, IT WOULD BE NO MORE THAN 4 MILLION. 
          RIGHT, EXACTLY. 
          SO 800,000 PER YEAR CAPACITY, WHATEVER WE USE OF THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT YEAH, THAT ASSUMES ALL FIVE WERE EXECUTED. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NO MORE QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          COURAGE. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 17, 16. 
          EXCUSE ME, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ITEM NUMBER 
          [17. An Ordinance authorizing an increase in the number of City Council
Aides for the Mayor and each Councilmember from six to seven full
time equivalent positions in the FY2018 Annual Operating and Capital
Budget. [John Peterek, Assistant to the City Manager; Christopher
Callanen, Assistant to City Council]]
17. 
          ITEM 17 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING AN INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CITY COUNCIL AIDES FOR THE MAYOR AND EACH COUNCIL MEMBER FROM SIX TO SEVEN FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT POSITIONS IN THE FISCAL YEAR 2018 ANNUAL OPERATING AND CAPITAL BUDGET. 
          COUNCILWOMAN GRO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, CHRIS, I DO, YOU DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION? I DON'T HAVE A POWERPOINT BACK IN. 
          WELL, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. 
          I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR MANY OF US COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, UH, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN ON THE DIAS FOR A WHILE ABOUT MANAGING ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE INCREASINGLY, THE COUNCIL OFFICES ARE DOING INTAKE AND PROVIDING CONNECTIONS TO ESSENTIAL SERVICES. 
          AND THERE IS A RISING EXPECTATIONS OF OUR CONSTITUENCY. 
          SO AS OUR CON, OUR DISTRICTS CONTINUE TO GROW, AND AS OUR ACCESS TO OUR CONSTITUENCY CONTINUES TO GROW, WE NEED TO ALSO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A STAFF APPROPRIATELY. 
          SO IF YOU COULD DESCRIBE TO US THOSE, ESPECIALLY OF US WHO WERE IN GOVERNANCE, IF YOU COULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND THE PRESENTATION OF WHAT YOU SHARED THERE, PLEASE. 
          UH, UH, THANK YOU COUNSEL FOR ALLOWING ME TO BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD TODAY AND PRESENT. 
          UM, DURING THE, UH, BUDGET AMENDMENT 
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PROCESS THIS SUMMER, COUNCILMAN TRAVINO RAISED THE ISSUE OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF FULL-TIME EQUIVALENTS OR FTES THAT EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT HAS CURRENTLY. 
          THAT NUMBER IS SIX. 
          THE LAST TIME IT WAS INCREASED WAS IN 2011. 
          IT WAS INCREASED FROM FIVE TO SIX. 
          UM, WE WERE DIRECTED TO, TO PRESENT RECOMMENDATIONS AT GOVERNANCE. 
          WE DID THAT ON OCTOBER 18TH. 
          WE PRESENTED, UH, INCREASING TO SEVEN FTES. 
          UM, WE THINK HAVING A A A CAP IS IMPORTANT 'CAUSE IT HELPS US BUDGET FOR, UM, TECHNOLOGY SPACE BENEFITS, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. 
          UM, SO WE PRESENTED THAT TO GOVERNANCE, UM, AND THEY DIRECTED US TO BRING IT TO COUNCIL AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY. 
          SO, UM, THE CAP FOR SEVEN FTES, UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THE CAP, IF YOU CAN GO INTO MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT? UM, FULL-TIME COUNCIL AIDES RECEIVE BENEFITS, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          AND WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR ANNUAL BUDGET, WE TRY AND WE BUDGET ACCORDINGLY TO THE, THE CAP. 
          AND, UM, HAVING A CAP ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. 
          IT ALLOWS US WHEN WE'RE DOING SPACE PLANNING OR BUYING FURNITURE OR TECHNOLOGY . 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO, UM, SO IT WOULD BE, IT'S, IT'S MORE, UM, EFFICIENT AND HELP WITH BUDGETARY PLANNING TO DO IT THIS WAY, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING, HERE'S THE FIXED AMOUNT FOR EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT AND YOU HIRE A HOWEVER MANY YOU NEED TO HIRE, THAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, MAYOR, AND, UM, I, MOTION TO APPROVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN GRO. 
          COUNCILMAN PALS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          CHRIS, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS OTHER THAN JUST TO MAKE A COMMENT FOR EVERYBODY TO REMEMBER. 
          THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW AT A RATE THAT NOBODY ANTICIPATED IT TO GROW. 
          AND THAT IS JUST THE REALITY. 
          AND THE REALITY IS, IS THAT AS IT GROWS, OUR OFFICES RECEIVE MORE AND MORE PHONE CALLS, UM, AND MORE REQUESTS THAT WE PUT OUT FIRES. 
          WE AND CITY COUNCIL ARE THE FRONT LINES, UM, TO QUARTERBACK THOSE REQUESTS. 
          MY COLLEAGUE, UH, COUNCILMAN , HE'S VERY SMART IN POINTING THAT OUT. 
          AND THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR, FOR MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE ALL AWARE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WHILE NOBODY WANTS TO SPEND MORE MONEY, UH, AND WHILE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE STEWARDS OF A LIMITED RESOURCE LIKE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAXES, UM, THOSE ARE THE SAME CUSTOMERS WHO ARE REQUESTING SERVICE FROM US. 
          NOW, THE PHONE CALLS THAT WE GET AT EACH DIFFERENT DISTRICT, I IMAGINE ARE DIFFERENT IN NATURE, BUT THEY ARE INCREASING NONETHELESS. 
          AND THEY ARE, WE TAKE THOSE VERY SERIOUSLY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, I THINK IT WAS RONALD REAGAN THAT WAS CREDITED WITH SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, PERSONNEL IS POLICY. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT EVERY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT DOES IS IT HIRES PEOPLE WHO DO A LOT OF HEAVY LIFTING. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU ON BEHALF OF MY TEAM, I'VE HIRED, I'VE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM OF PEOPLE, AND EACH ONE OF MY FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES DOES THE WORK OF ABOUT ONE AND A HALF FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, AND THEY PULL LONG NIGHTS AND WEEKENDS TO GET THIS STUFF DONE. 
          AND I'VE NEVER HEARD ANY CITIZEN COME TO TELL US, PLEASE DO LESS. 
          AND, UH, IN FACT, THEY ARE CONSTANTLY REQUESTING THAT WE DO MORE. 
          AND SO I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. 
          HOWEVER, I DO THINK IT'S OUR JOB TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS. 
          AND I DON'T EXPECT THIS TO BE THE LAST TIME THE CITY COUNCIL COMES AND REQUESTS ADDITIONAL HEADCOUNT BEC UNTIL THIS CITY EITHER STOPS GROWING OR STARTS SHRINKING. 
          I THINK THAT'S JUST THE REALITY THAT WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO GRAPPLE WITH. 
          AND SO THANK YOU TO MANAGER SCULLY AND THANK YOU, UM, TO STAFF FOR LOOKING INTO THIS AND FOR SUPPORTING THIS REQUEST. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN FLIES, COUNCILMAN. 
          COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK THE ONLY, UH, SHORTCOMING IN, IN ADDING THIS POSITION IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE, UH, FINANCES AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE THE, UH, BENEFITS FOR AN ADDITIONAL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE BUILT INTO OUR BUDGETS. 
          AND SO WHAT I WOULD ASK IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE MID-YEAR RECKONING AND WE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, UH, HALFWAY THROUGH THAT WE SEE IF WE CAN'T FIND THE RESOURCES TO ADD THE BENEFITS THAT WE'D GO ALONG WITH THIS, UH, THIS NEW POSITION WE'RE PUTTING IN. 
          OTHERWISE, IF WE WANT TO TRY AND PROVIDE THOSE BENEFITS, WE MAY HAVE TO TAKE THAT MONEY OUT OF SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES, WHETHER IT'S FOR, UH, 
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PRINTING OR COMMUNICATIONS OR OTHER SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL WORK WITH BUDGET DURING THE MID-YEAR TO, TO LOOK AT THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. 
          COURAGE. 
          AND, AND JUST FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION FOR THE AUDIENCE, WE DID AUGMENT THE CITY COUNCIL BUDGETS BY $50,000 LAST YEAR, WHICH, UH, AGAIN, IT DOESN'T SPEAK TO A CAP. 
          A CAP IS A CAP ON THE NUMBER RIGHT. 
          OF EMPLOYEES, BUT THE BUDGET FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL OFFICE WAS INCREASED BY 50,000 AT CORRECT, THE F Y 18 BUDGET. 
          SO OCTOBER ONE. 
          YES, SIR. 
          COUNCILMAN VEO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA THANK, UH, MY DEVIA GOMEZ FOR WORKING WITH US. 
          AND REALLY THIS WAS A, A VERY, VERY LARGE EFFORT, UH, OVER THE SUMMER. 
          UH, AND I WANNA PRIMARILY THANK MY CHIEF OF STAFF, JAY PKI, WHO REALLY, UH, SPEARHEADED THIS WHOLE THING AND DID A LOT, A LOT OF WORK, GUYS. 
          UM, SO ALL I CAN SAY, IS THIS A GREAT FIRST STEP? UH, I AGREE THERE'S MORE DISCUSSION TO BE HAD. 
          UM, AND LET'S, LET'S, LET'S CONTINUE THAT DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN RAINO. 
          COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ. 
          UH, THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND, UM, I, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION TODAY, ALTHOUGH I DON'T REALLY SUPPORT THE IDEA OF IT. 
          I HAVE FELT THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HIRE AS MANY PEOPLE AS NEEDED. 
          UH, WHETHER THAT'S PART-TIME, FULL-TIME, UH, BECAUSE EACH OFFICE RUNS DIFFERENTLY. 
          AND, UH, I FEEL WE SHOULD HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO WORK WITHIN, UH, OBVIOUSLY WITHIN OUR BUDGET, BUT WE SHOULDN'T BE CAPPED AT SIX OR FIVE OR SEVEN. 
          UM, THIS WAS THE MOTION THAT WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AND, UH, AND SO I'M SUPPORTING IT, BUT WE ARE OFTEN OVERWHELMED WITH WORK. 
          AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT C P S CREATED THEIR CUSTOMER RESPONSE TEAM WAS BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST GOT ON COUNCIL, I ASKED C P S TO DEDICATE A STAFF MEMBER TO MY OFFICE BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING SO MANY REFERRALS FOR ASSISTANCE. 
          UH, AND, UH, IN FACT, THEY, ONE UPPED ME. 
          NOT ONLY DID THEY, UM, UH, NOT NECESSARILY PUT SOMEBODY IN MY OFFICE, THEY CREATED AN ENTIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD DEAL WITH CUSTOMER RESPONSE, WHETHER THAT MEANT GOING TO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE OR, UM, OR JUST SPENDING MORE ONE-ON-ONE TIME WITH CONSTITUENTS, EVEN THOUGH WE STILL DO IN MY OFFICE A LOT OF TIME, SIGNING UP PEOPLE FOR AFFORDABILITY PROGRAMS. AND WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SAWS DOING A SIMILAR PROGRAM HERE WHEN WE, UH, APPROVE SOME OF THEIR, UH, RATES OR NOT APPROVE SOME OF THEIR RATE OR WHEN WE VOTE ON IT, UH, NEXT WEEK. 
          BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR THAT KIND OF, UH, RESPONSE FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS BECAUSE WE ARE OVERWHELMED WITH WORK. 
          UH, AND, UM, THERE'S OFTEN, UH, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, A DISCONNECT WITH COMMUNICATION IN THE WAY THAT OUR OFFICES CAN HANDLE THE WORKLOAD. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, CONSTITUENTS WILL SAY THAT THEY CONTACTED OUR OFFICE WHEN IN FACT THEY CONTACTED 3 1 1, THEY DIDN'T CONTACT OUR OFFICE DIRECTLY. 
          AND SO IN AN ATTEMPT TO PROVIDE GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO TRACK DOWN HOW THAT COMMUNICATION WAS MADE, UH, SO THAT IT DOESN'T COME BACK ON, ON, UH, OUR STAFF, UH, THAT THEY WERE NOT RESPONDING PROPERLY TO CONSTITUENTS. 
          SO THERE'S STILL AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK TO BE DONE, AND THAT OFTEN, UM, CAN BE DONE WITH TECHNOLOGY, BUT THERE'S USUALLY NO SHORTAGE OF ONE-ON-ONE CONTACT THAT, UH, THE COMMUNITY EXPECTS FROM US AS COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          SO, UH, I, I, I DO WANNA SUPPORT THE MOTION, BUT HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO EVOLVE BECAUSE WE ARE A GROWING POPULATION. 
          WE KNOW THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO, TO GROW AND, UH, AND THE NEEDS, UH, WILL NOT, UM, DECLINE AS, AS WAS MENTIONED. 
          SO I, I I'LL SUPPORT TODAY, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO BE OPEN TO NOT GETTING LOCKED IN ON HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN HAVE. 
          WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE MANY SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT WOULD BE WILLING TO, UM, ARE RETIRED PEOPLE THAT, OR, OR STUDENTS, UH, THAT NOT JUST WORK AS INTERNS, BUT MIGHT BE WILLING TO WORK A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK, UM, ON A PART-TIME BASIS. 
          UH, AND THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE FOR SMALLER FEE, UH, BUT WE, WE DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HIRE THEM BECAUSE WE'RE, UH, WE ALREADY HAVE EXCEEDED THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. 
          SO I KNOW THAT WE CAN ALWAYS HIRE INTERNS FOR FREE. 
          WE DO THAT A LOT, AND WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR OUR VOLUNTEER STAFF. 
          UM, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S STILL MORE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE CAN HAVE WITHIN OUR OFFICES TO TAKE CARE OF OUR INDIVIDUAL NEEDS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY? YES, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, JUST A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ON THIS. 
          I, I HAD, UH, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ABOUT WHETHER, UH, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS OR NOT. 
          I'D, I'VE, UH, LISTENED TO MY COLLEAGUES TALK ABOUT THEIR NEEDS AND, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD 
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BE ALL FOCUSED ON THE CUSTOMER, WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS OUT THERE ARE, UM, NEEDING HELP WITH AND, AND OUR RESPONSE AND, AND HELP TO THE CUSTOMERS OUT THERE. 
          SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL SUPPORT THIS, BUT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WOULD SUGGEST IF THERE ARE THOSE, UH, CONTINUED SHORTAGES OUT THERE IN THE, UH, OFFICES, FIELD OFFICES, OR EVEN HERE, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WILL VOLUNTEER AND THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING FOR A SALARY THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD REACH OUT AND GET VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT AND, UH, ANY KIND OF TASK JUST AS, UH, YOU KNOW, ANSWERING THE TELEPHONE AND, AND PASSING 'EM TO THE RIGHT, RIGHT LOCATION. 
          BUT I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, THAT'S AN AREA THAT FOLKS COULD, UH, USE HERE. 
          AND I, I, I KNOW THERE'S SOME ON THIS DIOCESE DO THAT NOW. 
          SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE FUTURE USE OF VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT WITH THAT. 
          ALONG WITH THAT, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILMAN ELIAS MADE A, MADE A COMMENT WHILE AGO, UH, YOU KNOW, ABOUT IF THE CITY EVER SHRINKS, YOU KNOW, THEN WE COULD, UH, SEE ABOUT GIVING THOSE BACK. 
          WELL, I, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'LL HOLD YOU TO THAT. 
          IF THIS CITY SHRINKS, UH, YOU NEED TO GIVE UP A COUPLE OF YOUR FTES, OKAY? BECAUSE I'VE NEVER SEEN A GOVERNMENT ENTITY GIVE UP, UH, POSITIONS WHEN, UH, SOMETHING GOES IN THE OTHER DIRECTION. 
          SAVE CHERYL SCULLY WHEN SHE FIRST GOT IN HERE. 
          I REMEMBER THAT COMMENT, MA'AM. 
          UH, WE, WE'VE GOT 1600 CIVILIAN POSITIONS OVER THE PAST DECADE WITHOUT LAYOFFS. 
          I'VE HEARD THAT. 
          I'VE HEARD THAT IS WELL, WE'VE ADDED 600 POLICE AND FIRE. 
          THAT IS INGRAINED IN MY MEMORY. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          BUT I, I WAS, UH, REALLY PUTTING THAT TOWARDS THE COUNCILMAN HERE. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL SEE WHEN THE CITY STARTS SHRINKING. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          COUNCILMAN BROCKO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          HEY, CHRIS. 
          I, I, I THINK, UH, WHAT YOU DID WORKING WITH THE OFFICES WAS GREAT. 
          I MEAN, I KNOW YOUR COMMUNICATION WITH ME, AND I'M THANKFUL FOR YOU IN GERMANY AND, AND, AND KEEPING ME STRAIGHT ON THE BUDGET. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AS A STAFF PERSON TOO, I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ OBVIOUSLY, THAT WE SHOULD HAVE GREATER CONTROL OVER OUR BUDGET, WHERE THE MONEY GOES, AND, AND, AND WE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THAT ULTIMATELY. 
          BUT I DID WANT TO, YOU KNOW, COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE WORK. 
          I THINK YOU, YOU WENT, YOU, YOU BENT OVER BACKWARDS IN THIS CASE TO MAKE SURE IT MEANT, UH, WHAT IT MEANT TO ME AND HOW I LIKE TO RUN OUR ORGANIZATION AND OUR TEAM. 
          UH, SO I WANTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT. 
          AND THEN ALSO TO JUST, YOU KNOW, THROW IT ON THE TABLE THAT, UH, THIS PROBABLY SHOULD BEGIN A DISCUSSION, RIGHT, ABOUT THE APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES WE HAVE ON THIS BODY. 
          I MEAN, UH, IF WE'RE ADDING STAFF AND, AND, AND TO THE LEVEL OF WORK WE HAVE, IF WE'RE REPRESENTING 150 TO 160,000 RESIDENTS, EACH ONE OF US, UM, THAT I'M WILLING TO BET IS PROBABLY THE HIGHEST REPRESENTATIVE TO RESIDENT RATIO IN THE STATE, AT LEAST OF ALL THE BIG CITIES, I THINK WE ARE BY FAR THE HIGHEST, UH, THAT, THAT HIGHEST NUMBER. 
          SO I, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THERE'S OTHER MUNICIPALITIES LIKE DALLAS AND HOUSTON, THAT THEY'RE UNDER A HUNDRED THOUSAND EACH. 
          SOME OF 'EM ARE. 
          UH, BUT I THINK THAT'D BE INTERESTING TO LOOK INTO, RIGHT? IN THE FUTURE. 
          MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STAFF CAN START TO EXAMINE NOW, WHICH IS HOW DO WE COMPARE ACROSS THE REST OF THE STATE? BECAUSE THIS PROBLEM'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL GET AHEAD OF IT. 
          NOW, EVERY, OTHERWISE, EVERY BUDGET YEAR WE'RE RAISING ONE OR TWO F T E. 
          IN REALITY, IT'S NOT THE F T E, IT'S THE, IT'S THE AMOUNT OF REPRESENTATION, RIGHT? 'CAUSE AT SOME POINT, WE'RE GONNA BE STRETCHED TOO THIN, UH, TO HANDLE THAT. 
          AND I CAN TELL YOU OUR TEAMS ARE HUSTLING 24 7 AND 40 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. 
          AND, UH, SEVEN PEOPLE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S GONNA CUT IT. 
          AND, UM, WE JUST PROBABLY SHOULD START TO CONSIDER THAT, WHICH IS WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE FROM A GOVERNING BODY? AND, UH, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR REPRESENTATION TO, YOU KNOW, IS, IS, IS REALLY TAKING CARE OF CITIZENS TO THE, UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY'S POINT, WHICH IS THE CUSTOMER. 
          UM, SO MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING, A CONVERSATION WE CAN START TO LOOK INTO AS A BODY AND ASK THE STAFF TO BEGIN TO EXAMINE WHO WE ARE IN COMPARISON TO OTHER LARGE MUNICIPALITIES. 
          AND, UM, TRY TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT'S RIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE IN THE FUTURE AND WHILE PROTECTING THOSE THAT ARE HERE NOW. 
          SO, JUST A, JUST A THOUGHT, AND I APPRECIATE THE TIME, AND THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK, CHRIS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN BHA. 
          AND, AND THANK YOU TO THE FOLKS WHO WORKED ON, ON THIS, UM, JAY PKI. 
          I KNOW IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, A NUMBER OF THE COUNCILMEN COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, UH, ON THIS DAIS HAVE BROUGHT US ISSUES ABOUT THIS UP OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          I THINK COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE'S POINTS ARE, ARE VERY WELL TAKEN. 
          IN FACT, I THINK THIS CONVERSATION BUTTS UP AGAINST TWO REALLY IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS THAT WE, WE HAVE BEGUN TO HAVE AT THE CHARTER COMMISSION LEVEL, WHICH IS OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT. 
          AND WE ARE A COUNCIL MANAGER FORM OF GOVERNMENT. 
          WE HAVE CONTROL FROM POLICY ON ALL OF THE RESOURCES OF THIS CITY. 
          UH, BUT WE DO SO THROUGH POLICY, AND WE RELY ON A PROFESSIONAL STAFF TO DO THE KIND OF WORK THAT I THINK, UM, AMOUNTS TO SOMETIMES 
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CONSTITUENT SERVICES, UH, IN TROUBLESHOOTING THROUGH 3 1 1, AND ALL THE CITY DEPARTMENTS THAT WE EMPLOY. 
          THE OTHER ISSUE IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, WHICH IS THE FACT THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS THE LARGEST COUNCIL, UH, MEMBER TO CONSTITUENT RATIO IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. 
          UM, PEOPLE EXPECT, UH, AN ANSWER TO THEIR PHONE CALLS, TO THEIR EMAILS, TO THEIR LETTERS, AND IT GETS HARDER AS THE CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. 
          SO I DO THINK THAT, UM, THIS CONVERSATION IS ONLY, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING A SHORT TERM IN A SHORT TERM WAY, A VERY LONG TERM TREND THAT WE DO NEED TO LOOK INTO. 
          AND AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE 2020 CENSUS, I HOPE THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE A, A LARGER CONVERSATION ABOUT THE NUMBER OF DISTRICTS IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          UM, SO WITHOUT ANY FURTHER COMMENT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 17, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          [21. An Ordinance authorizing the establishment of a 15 appointed member
City Bond Oversight Commission to oversee the implementation of the
City’s 2017 Bond Program projects. [Peter Zanoni, Deputy City
Manager; Mike Frisbie, Transportation & Capital Improvements]]
MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 21. 
          ITEM NUMBER 21 IS AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A 15 APPOINTED MEMBER CITY BOND OVERSIGHT COMMISSION TO OVERSEE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CITY'S 2017 BOND PROGRAM PROJECTS. 
          COUNCILMAN PIAS? OKAY. 
          I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION. 
          COUNCILMAN. 
          JUST, YEAH, JUST HAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. 
          PETER , UH, . 
          YEAH, I, UH, MAYOR AND, AND COUNCIL, I, UH, I PULLED THIS ITEM TO HIGHLIGHT HOW, HOW IMPORTANT IT IS. 
          AND, AND PETER, REALLY, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNANCE COMMITTEE, UH, DID SOMETHING PRETTY SOLID, AND, AND Y'ALL DID THE RIGHT THING, UH, IN APPROVING THIS ITEM. 
          AND, UH, MIKE FRISBEE AND PETER ZONI, THANK YOU FOR, UH, OVERSEEING, UH, THE WORK GROUP ON THIS. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLES WE PLAY IN GOVERNMENT IS TO ENSURE TRANSPARENCY AND RESPONSIBILITY WITH TAX DOLLARS, AS I MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO. 
          UM, AND WITH THE CREATION OF THIS REVAMPED BOND OVERSIGHT COMMISSION, I, I BELIEVE WE ACCOMPLISH BOTH, UH, A CITIZEN LED GROUP. 
          UM, THIS COMMISSION IS GONNA PROVIDE TRANSPARENCY AND INCREASE COMMUNICATIONS WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE CITY'S 2017 BOND PROGRAM. 
          AND I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, READING THEIR REPORT. 
          UH, AS SOON AS THEY PUT ONE TOGETHER, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE AN ANNUAL REPORT, RIGHT, PETER? AND SO, UH, WITH THAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, AND THANKS IN ADVANCE TO ALL OF YOU ON THIS DAAS WHO ARE GOING TO APPOINT, UH, VERY THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO DO, UH, SOLID WORK. 
          I'M HOPING THAT THIS COMMISSION IS GONNA BE MORE THAN JUST A, A COMMISSION THAT MEETS FOR A MONTHLY SANDWICH. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN ELA, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND THANK YOU COUNCILMAN ELIAS FOR BRINGING FORWARD THIS C C R AND PULLING THIS ITEM FOR, FOR DISCUSSION. 
          UH, I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT WHEN WE HAVE THE VOTERS VOTE ON A PACKAGE LIKE THIS, THAT I'M TALKING TO YOU , THAT UH, IT REQUIRES, UH, US TO PROVIDE THE, AT THE APPROPRIATE, SORRY, I FEEL LIKE I SCOLDED I DID IN PUBLIC  THE APPROPRIATE OVERSIGHT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR DOING THAT. 
          UM, ONE THING WE DIDN'T DISCUSS, UH, EARLIER, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BRINGING THIS UP, IS, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE WILL BE MADE UP OF CITIZENS. 
          AND WE HAVE THREE APPOINTEES FROM THE MAYOR, I BELIEVE, IS THAT THE, THE OTHER ONES. 
          AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE WHO IS EXPERIENCED IN DELIVERING PROJECTS ON TIME AND ON BUDGET. 
          AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO GOING TO BE IMPORTANT IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS, UH, GETS CARRIED OUT. 
          SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN JUST CONSIDER THAT WHEN WE MAKE OUR APPOINTMENTS. 
          ALRIGHT, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCILMAN LIAS? YES, MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE, BY THE WAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 21. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, WE 
          [23. City Manager's Report]
HAVE, UH, I'M GONNA MOVE TO A CITY MANAGER'S REPORT BECAUSE THE COUNCIL WILL BREAK FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE, WE WILL RECONVENE AT TWO O'CLOCK FOR ZONING. 
          SO, UM, CHERYL, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UH, JUST TWO QUICK ITEMS THIS MORNING. 
          UH, TODAY SOUTHWEST AIRLINES AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ANNOUNCED TWO ADDITIONAL NEW NONSTOP FLIGHTS TO OAKLAND AND FORT LAUDERDALE. 
          WE'RE VERY EXCITED WITH THIS BECAUSE IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS, SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT HAS WELCOMED 20 NEW NONSTOP FLIGHTS, INCLUDING THESE TWO, UH, THAT WERE ANNOUNCED THIS MORNING. 
          UH, THE 20 NEW NONSTOP FLIGHTS OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS, 
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UH, INCLUDE EIGHT FLIGHTS TO NEW UNSERVED MARKETS, UH, SUCH AS OAKLAND AND FORT LAUDERDALE. 
          AND THE OTHER 12 FLIGHTS ARE EXPANSION OF NONSTOP SERVICE TO EXISTING MARKETS. 
          AND THAT MEANS MORE COMPETITIVE PRICING BECAUSE THE MORE AIRLINES WE HAVE SERVING, UH, THE VARIOUS LOCATIONS WHERE OUR BUSINESS AND LEISURE TRAVELERS, UH, DESTINATIONS, THEN WE HAVE MORE COMPETITIVE PRICING, WHICH MEANS LOWER PRICES FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AND OUR AIR SERVICE TASK FORCE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO BRING SAN ANTONIO MORE NONSTOP OPTIONS. 
          AND TODAY'S EXCITING ANNOUNCEMENT IS ANOTHER POSITIVE RESULT OF THOSE EFFORTS. 
          I DO WANT TO THANK JENNA ACETO HERRERA AND RUSS HANDY, WHO CO-CHAIR THAT AIR SERVICE TASK FORCE FOR THEIR WORK. 
          UH, THIS MORNING WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE FROM TECH BLOCK, UH, BRIAN PRI, UH, PRI WHO, WHO SPOKE ABOUT THE NEED FOR SERVICE TO OAKLAND AND HOW TRAVELING TO OAKLAND, THAT NONSTOP DESTINATION AND TAKING BART INTO SAN FRANCISCO IS MORE EFFICIENT THAN FLYING INTO SAN FRANCISCO. 
          AND, UH, THAT INPUT, THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS INPUT INTO OUR AIR SERVICE TASK FORCE IS VERY, UH, HELPFUL. 
          SOUTHWEST AIRLINES REMAINS THE AIRPORT'S LARGEST AIR CARRIER, AND THESE NEW FLIGHTS ARE ANOTHER ADDITION FOR OUR BUSINESS AND LEISURE TRAVELERS. 
          BASED ON OUR STRATEGIC AIR SERVICE DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS EXECUTED BY THE CITY, UH, IN MID 2016, WE KNOW THAT 34% OF LARGE CORPORATION TRAVEL WAS TO THE WEST COAST. 
          SO OUR SERVICE, NONSTOP SERVICE TO THE WEST COAST INCLUDES SAN JOSE, SAN FRANCISCO, SAN DIEGO, SEATTLE, LOS ANGELES, AND ONTARIO, CALIFORNIA. 
          AND NOW THIS NEW, UH, ADDITIONAL FLIGHT TO OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA FURTHER INCREASES THE NUMBER OF NONSTOP DESTINATIONS ON THE WEST COAST. 
          UH, BOTH FORT LAUDERDALE AND OAKLAND WILL APPEAL TO ALL TYPES OF TRAVELERS. 
          SO WE'RE EXCITED WITH THIS. 
          AND MANY OF YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, THAT SOUTHWEST AIRLINES WAS FOUNDED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          IN FACT, IT WAS CREATED ON A NAPKIN 50 YEARS AGO AT THE ST. 
          ANTHONY HOTEL. 
          UH, SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED THAT AND PROUD TO BE A PART, A SIGNIFICANT PART OF SOUTHWEST AIRLINES. 
          UH, FUTURE. 
          UM, I WANNA PERSONALLY THANK DAVE HARVEY FROM SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, UH, WHO WAS THERE TODAY WITH THE SOUTHWEST TEAM. 
          AND OF COURSE, THEY'RE LED BY GARY KELLY. 
          UH, WE APPRECIATE THEIR CONFIDENCE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNCIL MEMBERS TREVINO VIA GRAND COURAGE AND PERRY FOR ATTENDING THE ANNOUNCEMENT THIS MORNING. 
          UM, VERY POSITIVE ADDITIONAL MOVE FOR SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, SECONDLY, THE WORLD HERITAGE FILM CONTEST AWARD. 
          UH, I'D LIKE TO MENTION TODAY, THIS SUMMER THE DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE FILM DIVISION AND THE WORLD HERITAGE OFFICE PARTNERED TO HOLD A MY CITY, OUR WORLD HERITAGE LOCAL STUDENT FILM CONTEST. 
          AND THE CONTEST ASKED YOUNG FILMMAKERS BETWEEN THE AGES OF 14 AND 21 YEARS TO CREATE SHORT FILMS THAT SHOWCASE SAN ANTONIO AS A WORLD HERITAGE DESTINATION. 
          THE FILM DIVISION CONDUCTED A CALL FOR ENTRIES AND A QUALIFIED EVALUATION PANEL SELECTED WINNERS. 
          UH, THE TEAM WORKED WITH MISSION MARQUEE PLAZA TO DEVELOP AN AWARD CEREMONY AND A PUBLIC SCREENING OF THE FILMS. IN SEPTEMBER, TWO LOCAL CONTEST WINNERS WERE ANNOUNCED. 
          FATIMA AON FROM HARLANDALE HIGH SCHOOL AND XAVIER GARZA FROM JOHN MARSHALL HIGH SCHOOL, AND FATIMA AND XAVIER EACH WON $1,000. 
          THE FILM DIVISION THEN ENTERED THESE TWO WINNING, UH, FILMS INTO AN INTERNATIONAL, MY CITY, OUR WORLD HERITAGE FILM CONTEST, PRODUCED BY THE ORGANIZATION OF THE WORLD HERITAGE CITIES, FOR A CHANCE AT INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION AND ANOTHER $1,000 PRIZE. 
          AN INTERNA INTERNATIONAL JURY EVALUATED 16 ENTRIES FROM 14 COUNTRIES. 
          AND JUST THIS WEEK, THE ORGANIZATION OF WORLD HERITAGE CITIES ANNOUNCED DURING THE WORLD HERITAGE CONGRESS IN SOUTH KOREA, THAT 17 YEAR OLD FATIMA AON IS THE WORLDWIDE CONTEST WINNER IN HER AGE GROUP. 
          FATIMA TOOK THE TOP SPOT AGAINST HER PEERS FROM COUNTRIES INCLUDING SPAIN, TURKEY, MEXICO, INDONESIA, AND MORE. 
          AND UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE CITY'S FILM STRATEGIC PLAN, WHICH WAS ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL JUST ONE YEAR AGO, THE FILM DIVISION OF OUR DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE HAS WORKED CLOSELY WITH SCHOOLS LIKE HARLANDALE AND ITS FILM SCHOOL ON INITIATIVES TO HELP DEVELOP SAN ANTONIO'S FILM TALENT AND CULTURE. 
          THE MY CITY, OUR WORLD HERITAGE CONTEST IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THESE INITIATIVES TO FURTHER BUILD ON THE FILM 
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STRATEGIC PLANS GOAL OF DEVELOPING THE FILM CULTURE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THE DEPARTMENT OF ARTS AND CULTURE AND THE WORLD HERITAGE OFFICE WILL CONDUCT THIS CONTEST EACH YEAR TO PROMOTE STUDENTS AND GIVE THEM A CONSISTENT OPPORTUNITY TO HONE THEIR FILMMAKING SKILLS AND BE RECOGNIZED FOR THEIR HARD WORK. 
          SO WE CONGRATULATE FATIMA AND HARLANDALE HIGH SCHOOL, AND I GUESS WE CAN EXPECT MORE ACHIEVEMENTS BY THIS YOUNG FILMMAKER IN THE FUTURE. 
          SO WE OFFER OUR CONGRATULATIONS AND THANKS TO, UH, DEBBIE ROCHA SITTER WHO RUNS OUR ARTS AND CULTURE OFFICE FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR FILM STRATEGIC PLAN, AND FOR HELPING THESE YOUNG STUDENTS, UH, DEVELOP THEIR FILM SKILLS. 
          UH, THAT'S ALL TO REPORT THIS MORNING, MAYOR, BEFORE WE ADJOURN INTO, UH, EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU, CHERYL. 
          GREAT NEWS. 
          UM, AND WE HAVE COUNCILMAN VIRON. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE COUNT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT FOR, UH, FATIMA AON. 
          IT WAS PRETTY PHENOMENAL. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO VIEW HER FILM AT THE MISSION MARQUEE, AND ONE THING THAT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR COLLEAGUES AND OUR STUDENTS FROM HARLAND DELL, YOU SHOULD BE VERY, VERY PROUD, UM, TO KNOW, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HARLANDALE HIGH SCHOOL FIRST STARTED IN MISSION SAN JOSE. 
          IT WAS FIRST STARTS FOUNDED THERE IN THAT, IN THAT MISSION. 
          SO TO HAVE A STUDENT FROM WHERE, UH, AT, FROM OUR WORLD HERITAGE SITE, TO BE ABLE TO SHOWCASE HER NEIGHBORHOOD AND OUR CITY, UM, TO TELL THE STORY OF SAN ANTONIO TO ALL OF THESE JUDGES FROM THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. 
          'CAUSE IT IS AT THE ORGANIZATIONS OF WORLD HERITAGE CITIES WORLD CONGRESS, THAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN SOUTH KOREA, UH, WHERE COLLEEN SWAIN IS REPRESENTING AND RECEIVING THIS, UM, ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR US. 
          IT'S A PROUD DAY, AND IT GOES TO SHOW HOW WE IN SAN ANTONIO ARE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH OUR INTERNATIONAL PARTNERS, AND ALSO CONTINUING TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE, UM, FOR THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT FOR ALL OF THE CITY. 
          SO PLEASE TELL FATIMA CONGRATULATIONS AND ALSO, UH, MR. SAM LERMA AND ALL OF THE WORK THAT HE'S DOING TOO. 
          AND I HOPE, MAYOR, THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIGGER CEREMONY FOR HER JUST TO ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT A HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT THIS IS. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMAN VIRON. 
          THAT IS THE BALANCE OF OUR, UH, A SESSION AGENDA, UH, SAFE FOR ZONING, WHICH WE'LL RECONVENE AT TWO O'CLOCK. 
          AT THIS POINT, UH, THE TIME IS NOW 10:32 AM THE COUNCIL WILL RECONVENE IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THAT BEGAN YESTERDAY. 
          CAN YOU NOW PLEASE YOU MIND? COMPUTER PLEASE, PLEASE CALL THE MAYOR. 
          SORRY. 
          [Zoning Consent Agenda]
GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          CITY COUNCIL IS RECONVENING FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          NO ACTION WAS TAKEN. 
          WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON NOW TO OUR ZONING SESSION. 
          AGENDA. 
          TIME IS 2 0 4, AND I'LL ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THEY WISH TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          THE ITEMS I HAVE FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION AT THIS TIME ARE P ONE AND Z FOUR, Z NINE, Z 10, Z 13, AND P FIVE, AND Z 15. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WISH TO HAVE PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? OKAY, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          WE DO HAVE ONE CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK FOR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. I'LL CALL THAT PERSON NOW, JACK MFIN. 
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WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR NURNBERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL. 
          FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M. 
          FINGER. 
          YES. 
          A FEW ITEMS I WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA, LOOKING FOR MR. DISTRICT ONE'S REPRESENTATIVE. 
          MR. TREVINO. 
          DON'T SEE HIM HERE AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UH, I AM, I HAVE HEARD THAT, UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS DEALING IN HIS DISTRICT, ONE THAT IN FACT IN MY VERY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD, IS GOING TO BE, UM, BE PULLED FOR, UM, UH, A, A CONTINUANCE. 
          SO I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT THERE. 
          YES, IT'S THE ONE ABOUT THE, UH, LOCATION ON CINCINNATI AVENUE. 
          BASICALLY WE, HERE IN THE BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE'RE KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT, OH, JUST BASICALLY COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT. 
          YES. 
          BECAUSE YOU HAVE SINGLE RESIDENCES SURROUNDING IT. 
          AND, UH, WELL, I'M SORRY. 
          WE, WE, UH, WE DON'T LIKE THE TREND, AND SO CONSEQUENTLY, WE'RE THANKFUL THAT THE LEASE IS GONNA BE, THIS TRAIN IS GONNA BE SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UH, SO WE CAN TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT IT. 
          YES. 
          ALSO IN THE, UH, ELSEWHERE ON THE AGENDA. 
          AND I'M JUST GONNA, UH, HOP AND SKIP AROUND HERE. 
          THE, UH, Z 13. 
          Z 13. 
          YEAH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S ONE DEALING WITH THE VETERINARY CLINIC THERE. 
          YES. 
          I THINK THAT'S IN MR. MR. PALAIS DISTRICT. 
          I THINK THAT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT, SIR. 
          YES. 
          WELL, THE, UH, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR THE OLD MAP HERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, MR. AUDIO MAN, PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA, IF YOU WOULD. 
          THERE. 
          THIS IS A MAP OF THE, UH, PROPOSED, UH, UH, LOCATION. 
          AND AS YOU CAN SEE, MR. PALAI, THAT BUSINESS IS SURROUNDED BY, WELL, VARIOUS, BUT BLOW IT UP A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU WOULD. 
          THERE, SIR. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU HAVE, UH, WELL, YOU HAVE A WALGREENS, YOU HAVE A BANK, YOU HAVE A RETAIL CENTER, YOU HAVE A, UH, A NUMBER OF THINGS. 
          THERE'S SIR, THAT REALLY DON'T LEND THEMSELVES TO ANIMAL PENS AND PADDOCKS AND SO FORTH, SIR. 
          UH, YEAH, THE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE NOISE ABOUT IT THERE. 
          AND, UH, YOU HAD 10 NOTICES GO OUT, AT LEAST ONE THAT'S 10% SAYING, NO, WE DON'T WANT THAT THERE. 
          YOU HAD FIVE PEOPLE SPEAK AT THE, UM, AT THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING. 
          UH, THAT'S QUITE A FEW, SIR. 
          IMPOSING IT. 
          SO MAYBE JUST MAYBE THIS, THIS LOCATION MAY WANT TO FIND, THIS PROPONENT MAY FIND A DIFFERENT LOCATION, UH, INSTEAD OF CAUSING GRIEF, GRIEF FOR ALL THE PEOPLE AROUND THAT AREA THERE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. AUDIO. 
          VISUAL MAN ELSEWHERE ON THE AGENDA. 
          Z 15. 
          Z 15, YES. 
          THIS IS IN, WELL, MR. MR. PERRY, YOUR DISTRICT THERE. 
          PUT THAT ON THERE, MR. AUDIO. 
          VISUAL MAN. 
          YEP, THERE IT IS. 
          BIG SOCCER FIELD AND WHAT IT'S SURROUNDED BY, JUST BRING, BLOW IT UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          YOU CAN SEE MR. PERRY, ALL THE RESIDENCES JUST SURROUNDING IT THERE. 
          THEIR BIGGEST CONCERN IS THE NOISE, THE ACCESS ROAD, UH, ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          JUST MAYBE THEY MAY WANT TO THANK YOU MR. FINGER ABOUT IT TOO, AS WELL. 
          WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, I'M 
          [P-5. PLAN AMENDMENT CASE # 17061 (Council District 10): An
Ordinance amending the San Antonio International Airport Vicinity
Land Use Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the
City, by changing the future land use from “Medium Density
Residential” to “Community Commercial" on 10.35 acres out of NCB
15678, located at 12119 Wetmore Road. Staff and Planning
Commission recommend Approval. (Associated Zoning Case
Z2017203 S) (Continued from October 5, 2017)
Z-15. ZONING CASE # Z2017203 CD (Council District 10): An Ordinance
amending the Zoning District Boundary from “R-6 AHOD” Residential
Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to “NC CD AHOD”
Neighborhood Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with
Conditional Use for Outdoor Athletic Fields on 10.35 acres out of NCB
15678, located at 12119 Wetmore Road. Staff and Zoning Commission
recommend Approval with Conditions, pending Plan Amendment.
(Associated Plan Amendment 17061) (Continued from October 5,
2017)]
GONNA ASK MY, UH, COLLEAGUES COURTESY IN TAKING, UH, ONE ITEM UP. 
          TOP ITEMS P FIVE AND P 17, EXCUSE ME, P FIVE AND P Z 15. 
          UH, HAVE A COUPLE FOLKS THAT ARE GONNA HAVE TO LEAVE. 
          SO WE'LL TAKE THAT ITEM NOW AND THEN WE'LL GET ONTO THE OTHER INDIVIDUAL ITEMS. 17 0 6 1 Z 20 17 2 0 3 AMENDING THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT LAND USE PLAN FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL FROM R SIX TO NC C D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR OUTDOOR ATHLETIC FIELDS LOCATED AT 12 1 1 9 WETMORE ROAD. 
          STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. 
          HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 10:00 AM TO 9:00 PM EIGHT FOOT SOLID WOOD SCREEN FENCE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL USES 81 NOTICES MAILED SIX IN FAVOR. 
          18 OPPOSED. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY? YES. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, DO WE HAVE A CITIZENS, OKAY, UM, DO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THIS ONE? THANK YOU. 
          YES. 
          COUNCIL PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, UH, THREE 10 SOUTH ST. 
          MARY STREET, C 2,700. 
          I HAVE A SHORT POWERPOINT I THAT ADDRESSES SOME ACCESS ISSUES, BUT BASICALLY WHAT I WANTED TO, UH, LET THE COMMISSION KNOW. 
          AND IN WORKING WITH THE STONE 
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RIDGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO OUR PROPERTY, WE'VE AGREED TO CERTAIN CONDITIONS. 
          THE ONE THAT, UH, STAFF READ INTO THE RECORD ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION. 
          WE'VE ALSO AGREED TO AMEND OUR REQUESTS FROM THE, THE C ORIGINALLY APPLIED FOR A C TWO SS THAT IT WAS CHANGED TO, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CD. 
          WE'RE WILLING TO AMEND THAT OR WE'RE ACTUALLY AMENDING THAT DOWN TO OUR SIX CD AND DROPPING THE PLAN AMENDMENT CASE. 
          WE'VE ALSO AGREED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ANY LIGHTING WILL BE DOWNWARD FACING AND COMPLY WITH THE CITY DARK SKY ORDINANCE, THAT THE PROPERTY BE GATED OFF FROM USE WHEN NOT IN OPERATION. 
          THE EXISTING BARN STRUCTURE IS TO BE REMOVED. 
          THERE'LL BE NO LOUD MUSIC SIGNS POSTED AND ENFORCED AT ALL TIMES. 
          AND WE AGREED, OF COURSE, TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION. 
          AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, WE DID GET A LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTING THIS. 
          THIS IS CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE? YES, I DO. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, IF YOU COULD, UH, PUT THAT UP THERE, THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THESE ARE THE, UH, THE CONDITIONS? YES, COUNCIL. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'VE GOT SOMEBODY TO SPEAK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WE HAVE TWO CITIZENS SIGNED. 
          THANK YOU TO SPEAK FOR ITEMS NUMBER P FIVE AND C 15. 
          WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL THEM NOW. 
          START WITH ED GARZA. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCILMAN PERRY AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS ZONING CASE. 
          I'M HERE, UH, AS PRESIDENT OF THE ALAMO AREA YOUTH SOCCER ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS AN UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION OF ALL OF THE YOUTH SOCCER CLUBS AND ACADEMIES, NOT ONLY IN BEXAR COUNTY, BUT OUR ENTIRE METROPOLITAN AREA AND REPRESENTS, UH, NEARLY 50 INDIVIDUAL CLUBS AND ACADEMIES WITH SEVERAL THOUSAND, UH, PARTICIPANTS. 
          UH, WE ARE HERE TO SUPPORT THE APPLICANT, THE THEUS ORGANIZATION, WHO HAVE, UH, NOT ONLY, UH, SUPPORTED THE YOUTH VISION OF GETTING MORE KIDS ACTIVE, UH, THROUGH HEALTH AND THROUGH SOCCER, UH, BUT REALLY HAVE A VISION TO PROVIDE NEIGHBORHOOD YOUTH SOCCER IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA. 
          UH, I'M GLAD TO SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORT AND THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE NEGOTIATED, UH, TO CREATE A WIN-WIN SITUATION. 
          UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, I HAVE KNOWN JAVIER VERA WHO LEADS THEUS ORGANIZATION, UH, AND I FOLLOWED HIM WHEN HE PER PLAYED PROFESSIONAL SOCCER FOR THE MONTEREY THEUS. 
          AND SO THIS IS A HIGH QUALITY, UH, ORGANIZATION THAT IS BRINGING A DYNAMIC VISION, UH, AND WE NEED MORE OF THESE ACROSS THE SAN ANTONIO AREA. 
          TO HAVE A PRIVATE SECTOR GROUP COME BEFORE, UH, THE CITY AND INVEST IN OUR YOUTH IS SOMETHING TO BE COMMENDED. 
          SO AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF THE ALAMO AREA YOUTH SOCCER ORGANIZATION AND ALL OF OUR MEMBERS, WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THIS CASE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAYOR GARZA, ED SHATE. 
          ERIC? YES. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND, AND FIRST OFF, START OFF WITH, UM, WANNA PUT IT OUT THERE THAT I'M NO WAY, I'M, AM I OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT OF SOCCER FIELDS, ESPECIALLY SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSES OF HELPING THE KIDS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT IS A NOBLE, YOU KNOW, GOAL, AND I JUST THINK THAT THIS MAY BE AT THE WRONG PLACE FOR THIS. 
          UH, SPECIFICALLY IF WE COULD GET THAT, UM, PARK ROAD OR THE, THE AREA MAP PUT BACK UP THERE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, I APPRECIATE THAT THE, UM, I GUESS IT'S THE, THE LOCAL COMMUNITY BEHIND THERE WHERE STONE RIDGE SUBDIVISION IS SUPPORTING THIS, BUT THAT'S ONLY ADDRESSING 50% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE A ABUTTING UP TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN SOME TO WHERE THAT IT SAYS UNMARKED PARK ROAD OR UNNAMED PRI PARK ROAD THAT IS IN FACT NOT A PARK ROAD THAT IS A PRIVATE ROAD THAT WAS GRANTED DEEDED TO US IN OUR FAMILY WHEN THE IMMINENT DOMAIN CAME IN AND THEY TOOK, UH, THE AREA OF MCALLISTER PARK FROM OUR FAMILY WHEN THEY DID THAT. 
          UH, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS JUST, IT WAS TAKEN AND THEY, BUT THEY DID GRANT US THIS ACCESS. 
          AND I HAVE SEVERAL ELDERLY FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LIVE BACK IN THAT PARK. 
          SO IT'S BASICALLY IN THE PARK, BUT IT'S THROUGH THAT PRIVATE ROAD THAT IS GRANTED TO US. 
          AND WE ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE ON THAT DEEDED, UM, SECOND ACCESS, AND THAT WOULD BE ONE POINT OF ACCESS TO THIS PROPERTY. 
          THE PROBLEM I'VE HAD FROM THE START OF THIS IS THERE'S NEVER BEEN, THERE'S, THEY'VE NEVER ADDRESSED HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GET TO THIS, THIS PIECE 
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OF PROPERTY. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH HOUSES. 
          THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. 
          THERE'S ONLY TWO ROUTES. 
          IT WOULD BE THROUGH THIS PRIVATE ROAD, WHICH I DO NOT WANT TO SEE HAPPEN BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL FAMILY MEMBERS TO CREATE THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC COMING AND GOING, AND ESPECIALLY PRACTICES THAT END AT A CERTAIN TIME. 
          IT'S GONNA BE HECK GETTING IN AND OUT. 
          I DON'T SUPPORT THAT AT ALL. 
          FURTHERMORE, MY OTHER NEIGHBOR WHOSE BUTTS RIGHT UP AGAINST THAT PROPERTY AS WELL ON THE SIDE TOWARDS WETMORE ROAD, HE DID ONLY GOT A 50 FOOT EASEMENT THAT HE GRANTED TO THAT PROPERTY BACK THERE OUT OF HI, HI. 
          THE KINDNESS OF HIS HEART BACK IN THE SIXTIES. 
          AND NOW THEY WANNA COME AND TAKE MORE FROM HIM. 
          AND I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING APPROPRIATE, I FEEL LIKE. 
          AND OBVI ALSO, THE OTHER ISSUE THAT'S NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED, IT TAKES 60 FEET ANYWAY FOR AN EASEMENT COMMERCIAL TO GO THROUGH. 
          THERE'S ONLY 50 FEET THERE AND IT'S NOT PAVED. 
          UM, I JUST DON'T SEE WHY IT EVER GOT TO THIS POINT. 
          IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STOPPED WHEN DURING ZONING OR PLANNING IT. 
          THEY JUST KEPT PUSHING IT FORWARD SAYING THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE THEY NEED TO ADDRESS AT THIS POINT. 
          WELL, HERE WE ARE TODAY, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. 
          THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE GOT THIS TRYING TO GET PUT IN THERE WITH NO ANSWERS TO HOW HE EVER GONNA GET IN THERE. 
          AND I KNOW HOW THINGS WORK. 
          YOU GET THIS APPROVED, THEN ALL THE PRESSURE STARTS COMING TO ALLOW ACCESS WHEN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED TO BEGIN WITH. 
          BUT ONCE YOU SEE, APPROVE SOMETHING, I KNOW HOW THINGS GO NOW IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO GRANT THIS GUY ACCESS TO HIS PROPERTY. 
          THAT NEW, THIS NEW ZONING IS, HAS OCCURRED, OR MAYBE IN 15 YEARS FROM NOW, PEOPLE PASS AWAY AND, AND IN ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS HAVE TO HAPPEN ALL OVER AGAIN. 
          ANYWAY, I JUST WANTED TO POINT ALL THAT OUT. 
          THE MAIN THING IS I WANT TO RE REAFFIRM THAT I'M NOT OPPOSED TO PEOPLE PUTTING IN SO SOCCER FIELDS AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, HELP OUR COMMUNITY, BUT IT'S JUST NOT THE RIGHT SPOT FOR IT. 
          AND IT'S JUST TRAMPLING ON A LOT OF, UH, THE AREA THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TRAMPLED ON. 
          THANK YOU MR. SHATI. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN. 
          YES. 
          UH, IF PATRICK COULD COME BACK UP HERE AGAIN. 
          UH, AND I HAD SAME QUESTIONS HERE A WHILE BACK ABOUT THE ACCESS TO IT, ABOUT WHETHER THAT ROAD IS A PRIVATE ROAD OR IF IT'S ACTUALLY A CITY ROAD. 
          IF YOU COULD ADDRESS YES, ADDRESS COUNCIL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE SLIDE I HAVE UP HERE, IT'S ACTUALLY A CITY PRIVATE ROAD. 
          THE CITY OWNS THIS ROAD. 
          I'VE ALREADY HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY PARKS DEPARTMENT DEPARTMENT ABOUT ALLOWING US ACCESS TO THAT ROAD. 
          SO HE'S CORRECT. 
          WHEN THE CITY CONDEMNED THE PROPERTY, THEY GRANTED THEM ACCESS TO THEIR PROPERTY THROUGH THIS ROAD, BUT IT'S OWNED BY THE CITY. 
          UM, SO WE WOULD ALLOW, WE WOULD ASK THE PARKS DEPARTMENT FOR ACCESS TO THAT ROAD. 
          AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PLA IT'S HARD TO SEE. 
          COULD YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE? YOU KNOW, THE PLATT FOR THE, THE BASEBALL FIELDS NEXT DOOR SAYS, YOU KNOW, UN PLATTED CITY OF SAN ANTONIO OWNER, AND THERE IS NO BCAT ACCOUNT NUMBER FOR THIS PROPERTY. 
          I CONFIRMED WITH STEVE HODGES AT THE TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS DEPARTMENT, THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A CITY ROAD AND WE CAN CERTAINLY REQUEST ACCESS AND THAT'S OUR POINT OF ACCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS. 
          COULD I SPEAK ? THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS P FIVE AND Z 15. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          AND THAT'S WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE AMENDED HERE AT THE PODIUM. 
          OKAY. 
          YES MA'AM. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE NOW 
          [P-1. PLAN AMENDMENT CASE # 17077 (Council District 1): An
Ordinance amending the Midtown Neighborhoods Plan, a component
of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Medium Density Residential” to “Mixed Use” on Lot
28, Block 3, NCB 3032 and 0.0032 acres out of Lot 31, Block 3, NCB
3032, located at 115 Cincinnati Avenue. Staff and Planning
Commission recommend Approval. (Associated Zoning Case
Z2017265)
Z-4. ZONING CASE # Z2017265 (Council District 1): An Ordinance
amending the Zoning District Boundary from "R-6 NCD-5 AHOD"
Residential Single-Family Beacon Hill Neighborhood Conservation
Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 NCD-5 AHOD" Commercial
Beacon Hill Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay
District on Lot 28, Block 3, NCB 3032 and 0.0032 acres out of Lot
31, Block 3, NCB 3032, located at 115 Cincinnati Avenue. Staff and
Zoning Commission recommend Approval, pending Plan Amendment.
(Associated Plan Amendment 17077)]
TO ITEM P ONE AND Z 4 17 0 7 7 Z 20 17 2 6 5 AMENDING THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FROM MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE FROM R SIX TO C TWO, LOCATED AT 1 1 5 CINCINNATI AVENUE. 
          STAFF PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          28 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. 
          BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR OF THE PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT HAS CONCERNS WITH C TWO AND THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 7TH. 
          OKAY, WE DO HAVE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS P ONE AND Z FOUR. 
          WE'LL START WITH MARK SPIELMAN. 
          MARK SPIELMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN VINER. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, AND SO AT THIS MOMENT WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 7TH, UH, 2017. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 17, SEVENTH. 
          I'M SORRY, DECEMBER 7TH. 
          THERE'S A MOTION A SECOND FOR, OH, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          THIS DECEMBER 7TH. 
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YES, SIR. 
          DID I SAY SEVENTH? OKAY. 
          MOTION TO, TO DELAY TO, UH, DECEMBER 7TH. 
          YES, SIR. 
          MY APOLOGIES. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          MOVE TO ITEM Z 
          [Z-9. ZONING CASE # Z2017269 (Council District 5): An Ordinance
amending the Zoning District Boundary from "I-1 AHOD" General
Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 AHOD" Commercial
Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 396G, NCB 7853, located at 6623 South Zarzamora Street. Staff and Zoning Commission
recommend Approval.]
NINE Z 2017. 
          2 6 9 FROM I ONE TO C TWO, LOCATED AT 66 23 SOUTH ZAMORA STREET. 
          STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. 
          34 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, ZERO OPPOSED. 
          AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO DECEMBER 7TH. 
          COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. 
          UH, MOTION TO MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE, UH, TO DECEMBER 7TH. 
          UH, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM Z NINE TO DECEMBER 7TH, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM Z 10 
          [Z-10. ZONING CASE # Z2017223 CD (Council District 5): An Ordinance
amending the Zoning District Boundary from “I-2 AHOD” Heavy
Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to “C-1 CD AHOD” Light
Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for
Motor Vehicles Sales (Full Service) on Lots 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 26, 27, 28,
29, Block 30, NCB 8523, located at 1320 Somerset Road. Staff and
Zoning Commission recommend Approval with Conditions.]
Z 2017 TO TWO THREE FROM I TWO TO C ONE C D H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WITH FULL SERVICE LOCATED AT 1320 SOMERSET ROAD. 
          STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. 
          NO OUTSIDE AMPLIFICATION SYSTEMS. NO TEMPORARY SIGNS SUCH AS BANNERS, FLAGS, WIND WAIVERS, OR PENANCE. 
          18. 
          NOTICES MAILED ZERO IN FAVOR AND ZERO OPPOSED COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO MOTION TO APPROVE THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THAT WERE READ. 
          SECOND. 
          ALRIGHT, THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS I HAVE. 
          ITEM SA Z 10 WITH CONDITIONS PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES ITEM 
          [Z-13. ZONING CASE # Z2017180 CD S ERZD (Council District 8): An
Ordinance amending the Zoning District Boundary from “C-2 S CC
ERZD MLOD-1” Commercial Military Lighting Overlay Edwards
Recharge Zone District with a Specific Use Permit and Special City
Council Approval for a Small Animal Clinic with Overnight Boarding to
“C-2 CD MLOD-1” Commercial Military Lighting Overlay District
with Conditional Use for a Veterinary Hospital - Small Animal with
Outdoor Uses permitted and "C-2 CD S MLOD-1 ERZD" Commercial
Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Edwards Recharge Zone District
with Conditional Use and Specific Use Authorization for a Veterinary
Hospital - Small Animal with Outdoor Uses permitted (the boundary of
the ERZD remains unchanged) on Lot 9, Block 22, NCB 14732,
located at 12058 Vance Jackson Road. Staff and Zoning Commission
recommend Approval with Conditions.]
Z 13 Z 20 17 1 8 0 FROM C TWO S C C TO C TWO C D S WITH CONDITIONAL USE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR VETERINARY HOSPITAL, SMALL ANIMAL WITH OUTDOOR USES PERMITTED LOCATED AT 12 0 5 8 VANCE JACKSON ROAD. 
          STAFF AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS NO MORE THAN EIGHT ANIMALS IN OUTSIDE AREAS AT ONE TIME. 
          PHYSICAL EMPLOYEE SUPERVISION OF ANIMALS WHEN ANIMALS GO OUTSIDE. 
          AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO AGREED TO AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION OF NO OUTDOOR RUNS, PENS, PADDOCKS, BOARDING AND TRAINING. 
          10 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE OPPOSED. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE HAVE SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z 13. 
          WE'LL BEGIN WITH MICHELLE HAUSMAN. 
          HI, CHRIS OWS. 
          DONATE MY TIME. 
          MICHELLE, I'M SORRY, MA'AM, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME? CHRIS MANKOWSKI. 
          CHRIS MAKOWSKI. 
          BEN KOWSKI IS OKAY. 
          YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES, MICHELLE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I'M MICHELLE HOUSEMAN, 10,003 NORTHWEST MILITARY HIGHWAY REPRESENTING L C K FAMILY WHO IS IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING REQUEST. 
          YOU'LL SEE HERE ON LIGHT BLUE IS A SUBJECT TRACKED AND THE DARK BLUE IS MY CLIENT WHO IS OPPOSED TO THE REZONING, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, MY CLIENT BUILT AN OFFICE BUILDING 19 YEARS AGO. 
          THEY HAVE A REAL ESTATE OFFICE, FASHION DIVA AND SIX, UH, SOUTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL MEDICINE ARE THEIR TENANTS. 
          YOU'LL SEE HERE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IS THE EXISTING VETERINARY, UM, ANIMAL CLINIC. 
          AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU SEE THE OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH IS 10 FEET FROM THE FENCE OF THE VET. 
          YOU'LL SEE HERE THE WINDOWS OF THE OFFICE BUILDING, WHICH, UM, THEY HAVE CONFERENCE ROOMS AND OFFICES WITHIN 10 FEET OF THE COMMON FENCE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED VETERINARY HOSPITAL AND AN OFFICE BUILDING. 
          HERE AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE IN THE RED BOX AT THE TOP IS THE OFFICE BUILDING LOCATION. 
          AND IN THE HATCHED AREA IS THE PROPOSED OUTDOOR USE FOR ANIMALS RECREATING AND, UH, BEING OUTSIDE. 
          THIS IS THE ZONING MAP THAT WAS PART OF YOUR BACKUP AS WELL AS, UH, PART OF THE ZONING COMMISSION'S BACKUP. 
          WHEN STAFF MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO SUPPORT THIS CASE, YOU'LL SEE THAT OUR PROPERTIES NOTED AS A VETERINARY HOSPITAL FACILITY, WHICH IS INCORRECT. 
          IT IS ACTUALLY AN OFFICE BUILDING. 
          AND IN OUR OPINION, THOSE TWO USES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. 
          ALSO IN THE STAFF REPORT, OUR PROPERTY WAS NOTED AS RETAIL. 
          IT IS NOT RETAIL. 
          IT IS AN OFFICE BUILDING. 
          AND AGAIN, WE HAVE AN EIGHT TO SIX 
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HOURS DURING THE DAY OF USE AND IT'S INCOMPATIBLE WITH BARKING DOGS. 
          THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT IS TO, UH, ADD A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR OUTDOOR USES AND DELETE PROTECTIVE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN PLACE. 
          RIGHT NOW, IT'S CONSIDERED AN ANIMAL CLINIC. 
          THE DEFINITION OF ANIMAL CLINIC REQUIRES ALL CARE BE CONDUCTED WITH A COMPLETELY ENCLOSED BUILDING. 
          NOISE CREATED IS NOT PERCEPTIBLE, BE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE, AND NO ANIMALS KEPT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AT ANY TIME. 
          THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOU KEEP ON THIS PROPERTY. 
          YOU'LL SEE HERE THAT A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE MATRIX IN THE CODE, THE ANIMAL CLINIC, WHICH IS THE CURRENT USE, AS WELL AS ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES, NO OUTDOOR ARE PERMITTED IN NEIGHBORHOODS, ARE PERMITTED IN VERY, UM, RESTRICTIVE RESIDENTIAL TYPE COMMERCIAL. 
          THEN YOU SEE THE OUTDOOR USE IN THE VETERINARY HOSPITAL. 
          THOSE ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS. 
          THIS IS C TWO. 
          THIS IS NOT AN INDUSTRIAL AREA. 
          THESE ARE REASONS FOR OPPOSITION AND I'LL GO THROUGH 'EM QUICKLY. 
          UM, THE SOUTH TEXAS BEHAVIORAL MEDICINE, THEY HAVE A HUNDRED PATIENTS. 
          HEARING BARKING DOGS WITHIN A FEW FEET OF THEIR OFFICE WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THEIR CLIENTS AS WELL AS NOISE IN THE CITY CODE IS OVER 70. 
          DECIBELS AS A NUISANCE. 
          DOG BARKING IS MEASURED FROM 60 TO 110 DECIBELS. 
          SO IT'S CONSIDERED A NUISANCE AS WELL AS THE ZONING CHANGE CRITERIA. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE CONDITIONAL USE. 
          THE COUNCIL HAS TO DETERMINE THAT THIS USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT LAND USES UNDER THESE CONDITIONS. 
          AND IN OUR CASE, WE DO NOT THINK AN OFFICE AND BARKING DOGS IS COMPATIBLE. 
          WE DID FILE AN APPEAL OF THE ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED CONCURRENTLY WITH THE ZONING CASE. 
          THEY WORKED WITH THE CITY STAFF AND THE STAFF MADE A DECISION THAT CHANGED THE INTERPRETATION OF ALLOWED OUTDOOR USES IN SMALL ANIMAL CLINICS FOR THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          ALL DISTRICTS, NOT JUST DISTRICT EIGHT. 
          NOW A PACK OF DOGS CAN BE OUTSIDE RECREATING AND BARKING IN NEIGHBORHOODS IN ALL ANIMAL CLINICS IN THE ENTIRE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          NOW THAT DETERMINATION WAS MADE. 
          YOU CAN HAVE BARKING DOGS WITHIN 10 FEET OF ANY USE. 
          AND WE HAVE APPEALED THAT DECISION BECAUSE WE DISAGREE. 
          SO THE ZONING CONDITIONS THAT WERE READ, I ACTUALLY DRAFTED THESE THE DAY BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION. 
          THEY WERE NOT OFFERED BY THE APPLICANT. 
          WE REQUESTED THREE ANIMALS. 
          NOW THERE'S EIGHT ANIMALS. 
          UM, THERE WERE TWO CONDITIONS THAT WERE IN THE BACKUP WITH THE STAFF REPORT, NO EXTERNAL SPEAKERS AND 30 FOOT TYPE D LANDSCAPE BUFFER. 
          THAT WAS ALSO A MISTAKE IN THE STAFF REPORT THAT YOU READ PRIOR TO THIS HEARING. 
          AND ALSO I UNDERSTAND COUNCIL MEMBER AYAS WANTED TO, UM, PROHIBIT THOSE OUTDOOR RUNS, PADDOCKS AND PENS AND BOARDING AND TRAINING, WHICH WE ALSO DO NOT THINK COVERS THE VERY BIG ISSUE OF BARKING DOGS CAN BE OUTSIDE WITHIN 10 FEET OF OUR OFFICE WINDOWS. 
          THIS IS THE ONLY CONDITION THAT OUR CONSIDERATION THE VET PROPOSED DURING THIS ENTIRE PROCESS WAS A SIX FOOT FENCE WITH TWO INCH INSULATION. 
          THAT CONDITION WAS NOT EVEN INCLUDED IN THE ZONING COMMISSIONS, DELIBERATIONS AND IS NOT PART OF THE CONDITIONS. 
          SO WE DIDN'T EVEN GET THAT FENCE. 
          SO OUR REASONS FOR OPPOSITION ARE VAST, THAT NEG NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND PSYCHIATRIC USE BARKING DOGS WITHIN 10 FEET. 
          THE NUISANCE ISSUE, UM, EXISTING PROTECTIVE RESTRICTIONS ARE BEING TAKEN AWAY BY THE ZONING CASE AND IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE. 
          SO IN CONCLUSION, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE OF THE COUNCIL HEARING TO ALLOW FOR MEDIATION OFFERED BY COUNCIL MEMBER PALS YESTERDAY TO GET THE PARTIES TO THE TABLE. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT AND TO HEAR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT CASE ON NOVEMBER 6TH. 
          IT'S FOUR DAYS FROM NOW. 
          UM, TO KNOW THE FACTS ABOUT THE OUTDOOR USES THAT ARE AND ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THIS PROPERTY PRIOR TO MAKING A REZONING DECISION THAT DETRIMENTALLY IMPACTS AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HAUSMAN. 
          CARL BAKER, SUMMER GRADE HOUSE. 
          I'M SEATING MY TIME TO CARL. 
          OKAY, CARL, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD. 
          MY NAME'S CARL BAKER. 
          I'M AN ATTORNEY HERE REPRESENTING, UH, L C K FAMILY AND OPPOSING THE REZONING. 
          MY ADDRESS IS 300 CONVENT STREET SUITE 2,600. 
          AS MICHELLE MENTIONED, A BIG REASON WE LIKE THE COUNCIL TO DELAY ITS VOTE TODAY IS TO ALLOW THE PENDING APPEAL BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT TO BE HEARD BEFORE THE COUNCIL MAKES ITS DECISION. 
          UH, AS YOU MAY KNOW, OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT APPEAL CONCERNS AN INTERPRETATION OF THE CITY CODE AND WHAT OUTDOOR USES ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED AT THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, THIS APPEAL HAS DIRECT IMPLICATIONS TO OUR ZONING CASE BEFORE YOU TODAY, BUT ALSO FAR REACHING IMPLICATIONS ACROSS THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
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THIS MATTERS TO OUR CASE BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN ASSERTING THAT CHANGING THE USE OF THE PROPERTY WILL NOT INCREASE THE IMPACTS ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER. 
          THE ONLY REASON THAT THEY CAN MAKE THIS ARGUMENT IS BECAUSE THE ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER THAT WAS ISSUED THAT ALLOWS FOR ESSENTIALLY UNLIMITED OUTDOOR ANIMAL ACTIVITIES AT THE PROPERTY, DESPITE LANGUAGE IN THE CITY CODE REQUIRING THAT NO ANIMALS ARE KEPT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AT ANY TIME. 
          AND SO THE LANGUAGE HERE, UM, OH, SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THE LANGUAGE, BUT I'LL READ IT TO YOU, UH, AS, OH, THERE IT IS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THE, THE CURRENT, UH, PERMITTED USE OF THE PROPERTY IS AN ANIMAL CLINIC. 
          I'M JUST GONNA READ YOU THE DEFINITION OF ANIMAL CLINIC 'CAUSE THAT'S KIND OF THE HEART OF THE MATTER HERE. 
          IT'S A FACILITY FOR THE PREVENTION TREATMENT, MINOR SURGERY CURE, OR ALLEVIATION OF DISEASE AND OR INJURY IN SMALL DOMESTIC ANIMALS WITH ALL CARE CONDUCTED WITHIN A COMPLETELY ENCLOSED BUILDING PROVIDED THAT NOISE OR ODORS CREATED BY ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE BUILDING ARE NOT PERCEPTIBLE BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THAT NO ANIMALS ARE KEPT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AT ANY TIME. 
          OVERNIGHT BOARDING OF ANIMALS IS PERMITTED UNLESS EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED BY THE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS. 
          SO I'D SAY THERE'S A CLEAR EMPHASIS IN THAT DEFINITION ON ONE THING AND ONE THING ONLY, AND THAT'S THAT EVERYTHING HAPPENS INDOORS. 
          THE CODE ACTUALLY SAYS IT THREE TIMES IN A SINGLE SENTENCE. 
          NOW, WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THIS CASE IS THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEYS GOT EXTREMELY CREATIVE AND CONVINCED STAFF TO FOCUS ON THE SOLE IDEA THAT A VERY STRICT INTERPRETATION OF THAT DEFINITION WOULD LIMIT THE ABILITY TO AN ANIMAL TO EVER GO OUTSIDE TO USE THE BATHROOM. 
          YOU KNOW, OUR SOLUTION TO THAT PROBLEM IS RECOGNIZE THAT A SINGLE ANIMAL ON A LEASH IS ALWAYS ABLE TO BE BROUGHT OUTDOORS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND THUS THAT STRAW MAN ARGUMENT FAILS. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO CONVINCE CITY STAFF TO ADOPT THAT APPROACH, WHICH WAS, IN MY OPINION, TO ESSENTIALLY INVERT THE DEFINITION OF AN ANIMAL CLINIC FROM ONE WITH A STRICT PROHIBITION AGAINST OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES TO ONE THAT PERMITS. 
          AND THIS IS A QUOTE FROM THE LETTER, OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. 
          THUS, IN TRYING TO SOLVE THE LITTLE PROBLEM OF AN ANIMAL USING THE BATHROOM, WE HAVE CREATED MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM THAT OVERTURNS LITERALLY 50 YEARS OF POLICY IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND I WENT BACK AND I RESEARCHED ZONING GOING BACK TO I THINK 1965. 
          AND THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN A CLEAR DISTINCTION IN THE CITY BETWEEN TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF ANIMAL CLINICS AND VETERINARIAN HOSPITALS. 
          YOU HAVE THE ONES WHERE EVERYTHING HAPPENS INDOORS AND YOU HAVE THE ONES WHERE YOU ALLOW CERTAIN THINGS OUTDOORS. 
          SO WITH THE ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER HAS DONE IS ESSENTIALLY REWRITE THE CITY CODE TO REVERSE THINGS SO THAT NOW IN A PLACE WHERE EVERYTHING WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN INDOORS, WE HAVE THIS BROAD PERMISSION FOR OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES. 
          AND THE APPLICANT, BY THE WAY, IS SEEKING TO DO THE EXACT SAME THING THROUGH THE REZONING. 
          IF YOU READ THE LANGUAGE, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ANIMAL HOSPITAL VETERINARIAN, HOSS, AND A VETERINARY, EXCUSE ME, AN ANIMAL CLINIC AND A VETERINARIAN HOSPITAL, IS THAT LANGUAGE THAT MICHELLE READ EARLIER THAT PROTECTS THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE OBVIOUS REASON THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE PERMITTED IN LESS INTENSIVE DISTRICTS. 
          SO I I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT THE ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER DID ADD ONE CONDITION. 
          AND THAT CONDITION WAS THAT THEY COULDN'T HAVE ANY PENS, PADDOCKS, OR RUNS ON THE PROPERTY. 
          THE LETTER DEFINED THOSE AS AN ENCLOSED UNPAVED AREA, USUALLY BY A FENCE FOR ANIMALS. 
          WHEN I FIRST SAW THAT, I THOUGHT, OH, GREAT, THEY CANNOT OBVIOUSLY DO WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO HERE BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS AN ENCLOSED AREA BY A FENCE 10 FEET AWAY FROM OUR CLIENT'S PROPERTY FOR ANIMALS. 
          WHAT WE LEARNED, HOWEVER, IS THE CITY STAFF, AGAIN, AT THE URGING OF THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY, HAD ADOPTED AN INTERPRETATION THAT WHAT THAT REALLY MEANT WAS THE ANIMALS COULDN'T BE KEPT INSIDE A CAGE. 
          IT COULD BE BECAUSE THEY INTERPRET A DOG RUN A PADDOCK, A PEN TO MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A ROOF OVER IT, NO PUNT INTENDED. 
          SO ONE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT TO YOU TODAY, UH, ESPECIALLY THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THIS ISN'T THEIR DISTRICT, IS THAT THIS ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER AFFECTS THE ENTIRE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND THAT MEANS THAT ANY ANIMAL CLINIC IN YOUR DISTRICT WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RELYING FOR YEARS AND YEARS ON THE CITY CODE THAT SAYS THAT EVERYTHING HAS TO HAPPEN INDOORS NOW THEY HAVE A SITUATION WHERE YOU CAN HAVE UNLIMITED OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES SO LONG AS YOU DON'T PUT THE ANIMALS IN A CAGE. 
          SO MY GUESS IS THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF OTHER UPSET PEOPLE IF THIS COMES TO PASS. 
          THE OTHER THING I WOULD TELL YOU AS AN ATTORNEY, LOOKING AT THAT LANGUAGE AND THE DEFINITION OF AN ANIMAL 
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CLINIC, IF I CAN'T RELY UPON THAT LANGUAGE, I'D BE HARD PRESSED TO RELY UPON ANY LANGUAGE IN THE CITY CODE. 
          SO I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR TIME HERE, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY, UH, IN CLOSING THAT WE, WE REALLY DIDN'T WANNA LITIGATE THIS ISSUE OF THE, UH, FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY. 
          WE WERE SORT OF FORCED TO DO THAT. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE CONTINUANCE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU MR. BAKER. 
          DAVID DAR, CAROLYN MONROE. 
          I'M GIVING MY TIME TODAY. 
          THANK YOU MR. MONROE. 
          DAVID, YOU HAVE SIX MINUTES MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS DAVID DAR 1 2 0 5 0 VANCE JACKSON. 
          UH, I'M THE OWNER. 
          OUR FAMILY OWNS THIS PROPERTY. 
          UH, I'M ALSO A DEVELOPER AND HAVE BEEN FOR OVER 25 YEARS IN SAN ANTONIO AND WORKING WITH CLIENTS LIKE WALGREENS THROUGHOUT TEXAS. 
          AND SO WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONING CASES, UH, IN FRONT OF A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES. 
          AND THERE'S A SAYING WE HAVE, IT'S NOT HOW YOU GET IN REAL ESTATE, IT'S HOW YOU GET OUT OF IT. 
          AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS WHAT ARE WE DOING ON THE FRONT END? DO WE MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION? AND REALLY THE NUMBER ONE RULE, UH, I THINK THAT MOST DEVELOPERS WOULD SAY IS KNOW YOUR PROPERTY RIGHTS. 
          'CAUSE YOU'RE AS GOOD AS THOSE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR ZONING. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE THE LEVEL OF ENFORCEMENT. 
          AND SO THESE DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE OVER THIS TIME AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE AT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UH, HAD THAT LAW. 
          WE DEVELOPED THE WALGREENS AND WE HAD THIS LAND LEFT OVER. 
          SO WE WERE IN CONTROL OF THE ADDITIONAL LAND. 
          WE GOT TO PICK WHAT WE WANTED TO DO. 
          WE MOVED OUR OFFICES THERE. 
          WE MET MARK ZEBAN. 
          MARK ZEBAN IS THE, THE, UH, VET THAT WAS BOUGHT OUT BY, UH, VITAL PET IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE. 
          AND MARK AND I WORKED TOGETHER AND HAVE WORKED TOGETHER FOR 17 YEARS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT 17 YEARS AGO THAT CONCERNED ME WAS, IT'S NOT COMPLICATED, IS BO A DOG'S BARKING AND THE NOISE THAT IT COULD IMPACT OUR OFFICE, THE BEHAVIORAL MEDICINE COMPANY, UH, GROUP THAT HAD SENT OUR OFFICE BUILDING AND THE NUISANCE THAT THAT COULD CREATE. 
          AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENFORCE THE RIGHTS THAT WE HAVE UNDER OUR ZONING. 
          AND THE ZONING THAT YOU HEARD FROM BOTH MICHELLE AND CARL GAVE US THE RIGHT RELATIVE TO PETS BEING KEPT OUTSIDE AT ANY TIME. 
          WE LIKE MARK, HE'S BEEN A, HE'S BEEN A, A GREAT NEIGHBOR AND WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER FOR 17 YEARS TO THIS DAY, HAVE NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS. THERE CERTAINLY HAVE BEEN DOGS OUT AT TIMES. 
          AND IF THERE WAS EVER A TIME WHERE THE DOGS BECAME LOUD, WE COULD CALL UP MARK AND SAY, MARK, CAN YOU MOVE THE DOGS BACK IN? AND IT'S WORKED OUT GREAT. 
          SO THAT'S BEEN A GREAT POLICY FOR BOTH OF US AND IT'S WORKED WELL. 
          SO AS WE NOW FIND OUR WAY TO, TO THIS ZONING, SO 17 YEARS LATER, WE'RE NOW FACED WITH A COMPANY THAT'S, UH, BOUGHT MARK OUT. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT A, A PERSON THAT WE CAN DEAL DIRECTLY WITH. 
          UM, AND, BUT WE FELT LIKE WE STILL HAD THE SAME LANGUAGE, OBVIOUSLY IN OUR ZONING CASE, PROTECTING THAT I HAVE NOT MET ANYONE WITH VITAL PET. 
          UH, WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CASE UNTIL THE, WE GOT SOMETHING IN THE MAIL RELATIVE TO THE REZONING. 
          UM, WE SUBMITTED OUR, UH, OPPOSITION TO THAT. 
          UM, WE HAVE YET TO MEET WITH THEM RELATIVE FACE-TO-FACE AND TALK THROUGH THIS. 
          SO WE'VE KIND OF LOST THAT PERSONAL TOUCH THAT WE HAD WITH MARK ZEBAN. 
          UM, WE FOUND OUT THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM MICHELLE AND, AND CARL, UH, THROUGH THE OPEN RECORDS REQUEST ABOUT THE CHANGE IN THE, UM, THE ZONING AND THE CAN AND WHAT IT'S DONE IS CANCELED PROVISIONS THAT WE'VE RELIED ON. 
          WE'RE AS GOOD AS OUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT. 
          AND IF WE DON'T HAVE IT AS THEIR PROPERTY RIGHT OWNER, THEN WE'RE IN TROUBLE. 
          AND PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE CITY ARE IN TROUBLE RELATIVE TO ENFORCING WHAT THEY CAN BY THE THROUGH OF THE ZONING. 
          WE'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT A PROPERTY VALUE. 
          IF WE HAVE DOGS BARKING ALL DAY, WHO WANTS TO BE IN THAT OFFICE ENVIRONMENT? WHO WANTS TO OWN OUR OFFICE PROPERTY LIKE THAT. 
          AND SO WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS WELL. 
          OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH THIS. 
          WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH MARK, BUT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE, THE BARKING, AND THE IMPACT OF OUR VALUE, THE IMPACT TO OUR TENANTS AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE LEFT WITH. 
          WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME AND WE'RE, WE'VE KIND OF WONDERED WHAT'S THE HURRY? WHY, WHY CAN'T WE SPEND MORE TIME ON THIS? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. DARR. 
          JASON LINEMAN, 
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LEHAM, UH, STEVEN SCHNEIDER WOULD LIKE TO DO HER NAME BY TOMMY. 
          JASON, I DON'T SEE YOU SIGNED UP. 
          MR. SCHNEIDER, YOU'RE NOT SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. 
          YES, HE SIGNED UP. 
          HE SIGNED UP LATER THOUGH. 
          SO IT MIGHT BE FURTHER DOWN THE LIST. 
          YEAH, YOU HAVE TO SIGN IN BY, BY TWO O'CLOCK OR, OR YOU'RE NOT REGISTERED. 
          I WAS SIGNED IN. 
          YEAH, WE SIGNED IN BEFORE TWO THE DESK. 
          DID YOU SIGN UP WITH OUR CLERK? 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE RECORD OF YOU. 
          I DID. 
          OH, YOU WERE SIGNED UP ON A DIFFERENT ITEM. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE NOTE. 
          GO AHEAD AND YOU'LL HAVE SIX MINUTES. 
          MR. LENAHAN. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS JASON LENAHAN, 1 2 0 5 0 VANCE JACKSON. 
          I HAVE OFFERS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE ANIMAL CLINIC FOR 15 YEARS. 
          I WORK FOR MR. D AT THE PLACE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE. 
          I'D LIKE TO MAKE A BRIEF STATEMENT OF FACTS THAT I BELIEVE CONTINUE TO BE LOST IN THIS CONVERSATION AND THEN ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. 
          VITAL PET IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW, ADDING 36 TO 40 NEW INDOOR BOARDING OPPORTUNITIES IN THE SPACE OF A FORMER DRY CLEANER. 
          WE'VE WALKED THROUGH IT. 
          HAVE DOGS BEEN IN THE REAR YARD OF THE CLINIC PREVIOUSLY? YES. 
          THEIR PURPOSE HAS BEEN A BATHROOM BREAK, TYPICALLY FIVE MINUTES. 
          HAVE THERE BEEN MULTIPLE DOGS? YES. 
          QUOTING MR. BROWN AT ZONING COMMISSION ONE TO THREE IF THEY WERE RELATED AND THEY KNEW EACH OTHER. 
          LOST IN THIS CONVERSATION IS VITAL PETS NEW INTENT FOR THEIR REAR YARD? MR. BROWN DIRECTLY CONVEYED IN OUR OFFICE AT OUR ONE MEETING THAT VITAL PET INTENDS TO NOW PROVIDE RECREATION TIME FOR THEIR NEW BORDERS. 
          HIS WORDS, 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, SIX TO EIGHT DOGS AT A TIME, TWICE DAILY. 
          THIS IS STATED ON THEIR WEBSITE, IS A SELLING POINT. 
          PETS ARE ALLOWED MULTIPLE JAUNTS IN THE SPACIOUS YARD. 
          IF YOU DO THE MATH, THAT RECESS SCHEDULE PUTS A GROUP OF DOGS OUTSIDE IN A 40 BY 45 FOOT SPACE ALL DAY. 
          THIS IS A DRAMATIC CHANGE IN USE AND INTENSITY. 
          WAS THE STAFF REPORT CORRECT? IN DETAILING THE ADJACENT USES WAS THE MAP CORRECT? WERE SOME MISTAKES MADE HERE? HAS STAFF INTERPRETATION OF THE SMALL ANIMAL CLINIC DEFINITION VIA ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER NOT CHANGED THE INTENT OF INDOOR, THE INTENT OF AN INDOOR USE AND NOISE PROTECTIONS WITH THE STROKE OF A PEN? DID THESE MISSTEPS AND CONFUSION THEN BECOME THE FOUNDATION OF THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING AND RECOMMENDATION? HAS VITAL PET OR MR. BROWN BEEN CLEAR WITH THESE INTENTIONS TO YOU ALL? ARE YOU CLEAR ON THEIR NEW OPERATIONAL MODEL IF VITAL PET ALREADY HAS THIS RIGHT FOR THEIR NEW RECREATION ACTIVITY? WHY ARE WE HERE? LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONDITIONS PROPOSED. 
          IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO THE ISSUES OF NOISE AND COMPATIBILITY. 
          DO YOU BELIEVE THE NOISE WILL BE NEUTRAL? DO YOU BELIEVE TWO TO EIGHT DOGS UNFAMILIAR WITH EACH OTHER CAN COEXIST WITHOUT BARKING? DO YOU BELIEVE DOGS AFTER BEING PINNED UP INDOORS WILL BE EXCITED TO BE RELEASED OUTSIDE? WHAT DO DOGS DO WHEN THEY'RE EXCITED? ONCE THEY BE EXCITED TO MEET THEIR NEW FRIENDS? COULD SOME DOGS WANT TO GO BACK IN? COULD THEY HOWL CRY BARK AT THE BACK DOOR? DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ONE VET TECHNICIAN CAN HANDLE 4, 6, 8 DOGS AT A TIME AND KEEP THEM QUIET? DO YOU BELIEVE AN UNTESTED WOOD FENCE OFFERED AS THE ONLY CONCESSION WILL MITIGATE OR ELIMINATE THE NOISE? A SINGLE DOG BARKS AT 60 TO 110 DECIBELS. 
          WONT THE CONDITION OF MULTIPLE DOGS AMPLIFY THIS NOISE? ISN'T THE CITY'S NOISE NUISANCE THRESHOLD? 70 DECIBELS? 70 DECIBELS ARE, ARE YOU CONCERNED? LET ME CONCLUDE. 
          DO YOU BELIEVE THESE PROPOSED CONDITIONS ADEQUATELY PROTECT OUR ADJACENT EXISTING OFFICE USE IN THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF OUR PROPERTY BEING 10 FEET AWAY? HAVE THE STANDARDS OF COMPATIBILITY BEEN MET FOR THIS CHANGE AND USE AND INTENSITY? DO YOU BELIEVE WE COULD HAVE CONDUCTED THIS MEETING WITHIN OUR OFFICE WITH EIGHT YARDS BARKING OUTSIDE? WOULD YOU LEASE OFFICE SPACE 10 FEET AWAY FROM THIS POTENTIAL NUISANCE? IS THIS CASE NOT CONFUSING AND DESERVE SOME MORE TIME TO GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT? DO YOU NOT THINK BOTH GROUPS SHOULD MEET OWNERS AND PRINCIPLES WITH THE COUNCILMEN TO MEDIATE THE SITUATION, TO PROPOSE CONDITIONS OR COVENANTS THAT ACTUALLY PROVIDE PROTECTIONS THAT LIMIT THE OUTDOOR BATHROOM BREAKS AND HAVE SOME TEETH TO ENFORCE THE NOISE ISSUES? WHAT IS THE CITY'S URGENCY AGAIN? I'M MAKING A LAST APPEAL FOR YOUR CONTINUANCE. 
          I THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MR. LEHAM. 
          KEN BROWN. 
          MY NAME IS KEN BROWN, ONE 12 EAST PECAN SUITE 1360. 
          UM, WE SUBMITTED THIS CASE ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO. 
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UH, THE PURPOSE OF, UH, THE SUBMITTAL WAS TO EXPAND WITHIN AN EXISTING BU BUILDING. 
          UH, WE HAVE AN EXISTING PET CLINIC THAT HAS BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 17 YEARS. 
          UM, BOUGHT THE LAND FROM MR. DARR. 
          UM, MR. D IS A DEVELOPER. 
          UH, MR. D D HAD INPUT INTO THE USERS ON THE SITE, THE LOT LAYOUT AND THE BUILDING ORIENTATION. 
          UH, HE WAS, HE WAS AWARE OF WHAT WE WERE GOING TO DO ON THE PROPERTY. 
          UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE ZONING CASE WAS TO EXPAND WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING, BUT NOT TO EXPAND THE OUTDOOR AREA WHERE THE DOGS HAVE BEEN GOING OUTSIDE FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS. 
          UM, WE DID MEET, UH, ONSITE IN THEIR, IN THEIR CONFERENCE ROOM. 
          AND, UM, AT THAT TIME, UH, WE HAD CONTINUED THE FIRST ZONING, UH, AT THE FIRST ZONING HEARING. 
          AND THE CONCERNS SEEMED TO BE KEEPING DOGS PINNED UP OUTSIDE IN, IN KENNELS OR CAGES OR RUNS AND, AND BEING LEFT UNINTENDED. 
          UH, AS A RESULT OF THAT MEETING, WE AMENDED OUR ZONING APPLICATION TO ELIMINATE AND PROHIBIT OUTDOOR RUNS, PENS, KENNELS, UH, AND UH, TO NOT LEAVE THEM OUTSIDE UNINTENDED. 
          UH, WE ARE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, I GUESS, AN INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE, AND I REALLY DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE EITHER. 
          UH, THE CITY HAS GIVEN US AN INTERPRETATION THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED TO HAVE THE CLINIC AND TO HAVE BOARDING, UH, OVERNIGHT AND THE INTERPRETATION, AND I THINK THE ONLY HUMANE INTERPRETATION IS IF DOGS ARE BEING KEPT KENNELED OVERNIGHT FOR A WEEK OR MORE AT A TIME, THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO GO OUTSIDE ONCE IN A WHILE. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          UM, THE PROBLEM WITH THEIR INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE IS THEY'RE INTERPRET INTERPRETING ANIMAL CLINIC. 
          WE WERE, WE WERE ZONED BEFORE THE NEW 2001 CODE, THE NEW, THE NEW U D C AT THAT TIME, THERE WASN'T A CLASSIFICATION FOR, UH, UH, A PERMITTED USE CALLED ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES WHEN WE CONVERTED FROM B TWO TO C TWO. 
          OUR BASE DISTRICT NOW ALLOWS BOTH THE ANIMAL CLINIC AND ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES. 
          THERE IS NO 24 HOUR PROHIBITION, UH, FOR GOING OUTSIDE FOR ANIMALS UNDER THE ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES. 
          SO WE HAVE A PRIMARY USE OF A PET CLINIC AND AN ACCESSORY USE OF ANIMAL AND PET SERVICES. 
          SO ONCE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE HERE EXACTLY, BUT, UH, WE CONTINUED THE CASE TWO OR THREE TIMES AT ZONING COMMISSION. 
          I MEAN, THERE IS NO RUSH. 
          WE'VE HAD, I HAVE TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE SIGNED UP AFTER ME, UH, IF THAT WAS THE TIME. 
          OH, 15 SECONDS. 
          SO, UM, SO WE CONTINUED THE CASE THREE TIMES AT, AT, AT ZONING COMMISSION. 
          IS THAT ALL RIGHT? OKAY. 
          UM, AND THE THIRD TIME THERE WERE CONDITIONS ADDED AND THOSE WERE THE CONDITIONS OF NO MORE THAN EIGHT DOGS ALLOWED AT A TIME. 
          NO DOGS UNATTENDED. 
          THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE, UH, AND THEN NO KENNELS, PENS, UH, RUNS TRAINING. 
          NO, NO OUTDOOR ACTIVITIES EXCEPT FOR ALLOWING THE ANIMALS TO GO OUTSIDE TO RECREATE AND RELIEVE THEMSELVES. 
          THANK YOU MR. BROWN. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS THE, YOUR THREE MINUTES. 
          UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          ALL THREE OF US SIGNED UP AT 1 45. 
          I I GUESS WE, WE HAVE NOBODY ELSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. 
          IF, UH, IF THE COUNCILMAN, I'M GONNA GIVE THE FLOOR BACK TO THE COUNCILMAN. 
          IF HE'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE YOU FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS, THAT WOULD BE FINE. 
          IF THAT'S ALL, I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT LEFT, BUT IF THAT'S OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          COUNCILMAN APPLIES. 
          SO, UM, WE BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING, UM, THE EXISTING ZONING BASED DISTRICT, DISTRICT ALLOWS US, UH, TO DO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW AND WHAT WE INTEND AND PROPOSE TO USE, UH, THE PROPERTY FOR. 
          UH, BUT WE ARE AMENABLE TO THE CONDITIONS. 
          THE IRONIC THING IS IF YOU DON'T APPROVE IT TODAY, THOSE CONDITIONS GO AWAY. 
          UM, WE WOULD, UH, REMIND YOU THAT THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THIS, THAT IT IS COMPATIBLE, THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION DID APPROVE THIS. 
          AND I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. 
          UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER HERE ABOUT THE SIZE AND, AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE DONE ON THE SITE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU COLLEAGUES FOR, UM, UH, ENTERTAINING, UM, ME PULLING THIS ITEM. 
          KAT, CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE QUESTIONS? PLEASE? CAN, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED AT THE BOARD LEVEL AND, UH, THE, HOW IT IS THAT THESE CONDITIONS CAME ABOUT? THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE 
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PROPOSED FOR? SO, UH, THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE PROPOSED WERE, CAME OUT OF THE ZONING COMMISSION PROCESS. 
          UH, SO THERE WAS A COUPLE CONDITIONS THAT WERE, UH, PROPOSED THAT WERE INCLUDED INTO THE STAFF REPORT. 
          UH, NO MORE THAN EIGHT ANIMALS. 
          UM, OUTSIDE, IN, OUTSIDE AREAS AT ONE TIME. 
          PHYSICAL EMPLOYEE SUPERVISION OF ANIMALS, WHEN THE ANIMALS DO GO OUTSIDE AND AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. 
          THOSE ARE THE THREE CONDITIONS THAT WERE ACTUALLY STATED AT THE COMMISSION. 
          AND HOW MANY TIMES WAS IT CONTINUED, IT WAS CONTINUED A COUPLE OF TIMES, ABOUT THREE, THREE TIMES TOTAL. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND WHAT IS IT Y'ALL DID BETWEEN CONTINUANCES IN BETWEEN THAT TIME? A ZONING VERIFICATION LETTER WAS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, TO ASK IF THE, IF ANIMALS COULD RELIEVE AND RECREATE OUTSIDE, AND THAT THAT WAS PERMITTED BY RIGHT WITH THEIR CURRENT ZONING. 
          OUR ZONING VERIFICATION, UH, CLARIFIED AND SAID THAT YES, THAT THE USE, THE ZONING AS WELL AS THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT WAS ALLOWED, ALLOWED FOR THE VET HOSPITAL AS WELL AS THE OUTDOOR RECREATIONAL, UM, ACTIVITIES, BUT IT DID NOT PERMIT OUTDOOR RUNS, PINS, PADDOCKS, OR TRAINING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND NOW IT DOES NO, IT STILL DOES NOT PERMIT OUTDOOR RUNS. 
          NO, I'M SAYING YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, THE, NOW THE CONDITIONS INCLUDE THAT THE, THE CONDITIONS PROPOSED FOR THE ZONING CASE WOULD PROHIBIT OUTDOOR RUNS, PINS, PADDOCKS, OR TRAINING. 
          THANK YOU, KAT. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          UM, MR. LEN AND MR. D I, I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT HERE. 
          I, I WANNA PREFACE THIS BY TELLING YOU THAT YOU'RE, UM, YOUR ADVOCATES, MS. HAUSMAN AND, UM, YOUR ATTORNEY THROUGH, UM, THE GOLDEN OFFICE ARE EXCELLENT. 
          THEY'VE DONE A VERY THOROUGH JOB. 
          UH, THEY LEFT NO, NO STONE UNTURNED. 
          AND, UM, I'M, I'M, I'M IMPRESSED WITH, WITH THE AMOUNT OF WORK THEY PUT INTO THIS THING, THE, UM, OUR STAFF VETTED THIS A NUMBER OF TIMES. 
          WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT THIS CASE FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW, FROM OUR, UM, OUR APPOINTEE TO THE BOARD WHO WARNED US AHEAD OF TIME THAT THERE, THIS MAY BECOME AN ISSUE. 
          AND SO I, THIS IS NOT AN IDEAL SITUATION AND NOBODY WALKS AWAY FROM, UH, THESE DECISIONS HAPPY, BUT IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'VE GOT AS GOOD A SOLUTION AS WE'RE GONNA GET. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE ALSO REACHED AN IMPASSE WITH THE PARTIES, UH, WHO I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM. 
          AND, UH, ONE OF THEM IS WANTING TO MORE CONVERSATIONS AND MORE DIALOGUE. 
          THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH DEAD SET AND IS ASKING FOR A DECISION. 
          AND, UM, THE BURDEN OF LEADERSHIP MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS SOMETIMES. 
          AND, UM, I, I THINK EVERYBODY, UH, HAS NEGOTIATED IN GOOD FAITH. 
          I HAVE NOTHING TO, UH, LEAD ME TO BELIEVE THAT THAT WASN'T THE CASE. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO COEXIST, UM, THE SAME WAY THAT THEY'VE BEEN COEXISTING IN, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PAST MORE THAN A DECADE. 
          AND SO, UM, BALANCING INTERESTS AND BALANCING COMPETING INTERESTS IS, IS THE JOB HERE. 
          AND IT'S NOT AN EASY ONE, WHICH IS, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE ME HAPPY, AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T MAKE THE OTHER SIDE HAPPY, BUT I'M ASKING, UH, MY COUNSEL TO CONSIDER APPROVING THIS AND I MOVE ACCORDINGLY. 
          SECOND. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF Z 13. 
          DID YOU WANNA DO THE AMENDED CONDITIONS? YES. 
          WITH, WITH THE AMENDED CONDITIONS? OH, I'M SORRY. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN IMPLIES, GO AHEAD. 
          YES, I, WITH THE AMENDED CONDITIONS, UH, THAT WERE LISTED OFF EARLIER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM Z 13 WITH CONDITIONS AS READ, PLEASE VOTE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          THAT'S THE BALANCE OF OUR ZONING AGENDA FOR TODAY. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US. 
          HAVE A WONDERFUL AFTERNOON.
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