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IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR IF YOU NEED ANYTHING, JUST GIVE A, GIMME A NOD WHEN IT COMES TO THE Q AND A.
DO YOU WANT ME TO MOVE 'EM FORWARD? IF TO SAY, OH, BEN, ON SLIDE 10, I, I'LL TRY TO DO IT FROM HERE, BUT IF I CAN'T GET IT, I'LL, I'LL, IF YOU'RE IN THE OF SOMETHING AND YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH IT, I HAVE A COPY.
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IT WAS NICE TO SEE YOU MYS MY LOWER BACK.
WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL B SESSION OF JANUARY 17TH, 2018.
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VRAN.COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE.
MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM COUNCIL.
WE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA AS WELL AS EXECUTIVE SESSION COUNCIL.
[1. A Briefing on the City Wide Street Light Program. [Ben Gorzell, Chief Financial Officer]]
WE HAVE, UH, THIS AFTERNOON IS A STATUS REPORT AND UPDATE ON OUR STREETLIGHT PROGRAM.UH, THE CITY'S STREETLIGHT INVENTORY CONSISTS OF APPROXIMATELY 77,500 STREETLIGHTS ALONG OUR STREETS AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND SINCE 2012, THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH C P SS ENERGY TO CONVERT THE STREETLIGHT FLEET TO LIGHT EMITTING DIODE TECHNOLOGY, OR COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS L E D LIGHTING.
UH, L E D STREETLIGHTS, OF COURSE, ARE MORE EFFICIENT AND HAVE LOWER OPERATING COSTS, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION HAS BEEN PHASED BASED UPON A BENEFIT COST ANALYSIS OF ITS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM.
SO, BEN GO, OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE UPDATE ON OUR STREETLIGHT PROGRAM AND SPECIFICALLY TALK A BIT ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN STREET LIGHTING AND THE PROCESS THAT WE'LL BE GOING FORWARD, UM, ON OUR DOWNTOWN STREETLIGHTS.
AND, UM, AS YOU KNOW, HE WORKS CLOSELY WITH BOTH OF OUR UTILITIES AS WE HAVE, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR, UH, RATE AND DEBT FINANCINGS, UH, WITH SAWS AND C P S.
SO, I'LL ASK, UH, BEN TO BEGIN THIS PRESENTATION AND WE ALL CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS FOR YOU AS TO THE TOTAL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM.
BEN? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AS CHERYL SAID, WE'LL KIND OF GIVE YOU AN UPDATE TODAY ON OUR STREETLIGHT PROGRAM, AND WE USED THE WORD PROGRAM.
IT, I, I THINK ORIGINALLY STARTED AS MORE OF A PROJECT AND THEN EVOLVED INTO MORE OF OUR PROGRAMS. WE'RE GONNA HIGHLIGHT SEVERAL THINGS FOR YOU HERE TODAY, THIS AFTERNOON.
UM, I DID WANNA RECOGNIZE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE HERE FROM C P SS, UH, DAVID YOUNGMAN AND RICHARD MEDINA AND JOHN LEE ALLER HERE.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN GREAT PARTNERS, C P S AS WE HAVE PUT THIS PROGRAM TOGETHER AND WORK WITH THEM ON HOW TO, HOW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, UH, THE STREET LIGHTING PROGRAM.
UH, JUST SOME QUICK BACKGROUND.
AGAIN, THE CITY'S GOT 77,500 STREETLIGHTS, ROUGHLY.
THEY ARE OF DIFFERENT SIZE AND WATTAGE.
SO ALL OF OUR MAJOR STREETS, MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, ARE HIGHER WATTAGE BULBS, 250 WATT BULBS.
YOUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS TYPICALLY LOWER WATTAGE A HUNDRED WATT, UM, DOWNTOWN.
UM, UM, MORE LIGHTING, IT'S 400 WATT BULBS.
AND THEN WE'VE GOT VARIOUS OTHERS THERE AS WELL.
IN TERMS OF STREET STREETLIGHT TECHNOLOGY, IT'S REALLY BEEN EVOLVING OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.
THE MOST RECENT TRANSITION IS REALLY MOVING FROM HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHTING TO, UH, LIGHT EMITTING DIODE OR L E D AS IT'S COMMONLY REFERRED TO.
IN TERMS OF SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF L E D, THEY ARE MUCH MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT THAN YOUR HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM, UH, LIGHTING.
THEY HAVE LESS MAINTENANCE COSTS, UH, AND THEY GENERALLY HAVE A LONGER LIFE.
UM, WE SEE REDUCED COST OF FUEL REALLY BEING PART OF THAT REDUCED ENERGY USAGE.
THEY DO HAVE A DIFFERENT LOOK TO THEM.
GOT A COUPLE OF PICTURES HERE.
UH, ON THE LEFT ARE THE L ARE SOME L E D LIGHTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT UP.
AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU'VE GOT THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM.
THE L E D GENERALLY TEND TO BE A LITTLE MORE WHITE OR BLUISH IN COLOR.
THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE ORANGE COLOR.
THEY ARE ALSO, UM, MORE, UH, DOWNWARD FACING.
SO YOU GET LESS LIGHT POLLUTION GOING UP OFF OF THE L E D.
IT'S MORE FOCUSED ON THE GROUND OR ON THE AREA FROM AN L E D, UH, TECHNOLOGY.
FROM A, WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO DATE, EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE ON THE PROGRAM HAS REALLY BEEN BASED ON FUNDING ITSELF.
SO WE HAVE TAKEN, TAKEN THE SAVINGS THAT WE GET WHEN WE MAKE THE CONVERSION FROM HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHTS TO L E D BECAUSE THEY'RE MORE ENERGY EFFICIENT, THEY USE LESS ENERGY.
SO OUR MONTHLY BILL GOES DOWN WHEN WE MAKE THAT CONVERSION.
WE TOOK THAT SAVINGS AND THAT'S HOW WE PAID FOR THE CONVERSION.
SO THE, UM, SAVINGS THAT WE GOT FROM PUTTING THE LEDS IN PLACE, WE JUST TURNED AROUND AND CONVERTED THAT INTO PAYING FOR THE CAPITAL COST OF THE LIGHT ITSELF.
IN TERMS OF THE PROGRAM, AS CHERYL MENTIONED, WE DID START THIS BACK, BACK IN 2012.
UM, THE ORIGINAL PRICING ON L E D WAS REALLY ONLY EFFECTIVE FOR SOME OF THE LARGER WATTAGE BULB, THE 400 WATT, UH, TYPE BULBS.
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THAT REALLY MEANT WAS THE ONLY THING WE COULD GET THAT WOULD STAY WITHIN THIS KIND OF COST NEUTRAL MODEL OF, OF PAYING FOR ITSELF WAS REALLY THE DOWNTOWN LIGHTING AND THE LIGHTING ALONG OUR MAJOR THOROUGH FARES.SO THE MAJOR THOROUGH FARES WAS 23,500 LIGHTS.
THERE ARE ABOUT 1500 LIGHTS DOWNTOWN, UM, THAT WERE PART OF THIS PROGRAM.
THOSE ARE ONGOING, SOME OF THOSE HAVE BEEN REPLACED, SOME OF THOSE WE ARE AWAITING, UM, A DOWNTOWN LIGHTING MASTER PLAN THAT I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT HERE IN A SECOND.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ESTIMATED SAVINGS IN TERMS OF ENERGY OFF OF THESE LIGHTS, JUST TO PUT IT IN, IN, IN SIMPLE TERMS, THAT SAVINGS FROM AN ENERGY PERSPECTIVE IS ENOUGH TO, TO, UH, POWER 1500 HOMES PER YEAR.
SO ABOUT 4.8 MEGAWATTS OF ENERGY SAVINGS LAST SUMMER.
WE TALKED ABOUT AS PRICING ON THE LEDS HAS COME DOWN SINCE 2012.
LAST SUMMER, WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO THE COUNCIL THAT BASED ON THAT REVISED PRICING, WE COULD NOW GO OUT AND DO THE 30,000 RESIDENTIAL STREETLIGHTS THAT WE HAVE.
THOSE IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, CONVERT THOSE OVER TO L E D FROM HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM USING THE SAME MODEL.
THE ENERGY SAVINGS WOULD PAY FOR THE LIGHT ITSELF.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST TO US TO DO THAT.
AND WE'VE GOT ESTIMATED SAVINGS THERE OF ABOUT 2.6 MEGAWATTS, OR THAT'S ENOUGH TO, TO POWER ABOUT 806 HOMES PER YEAR.
THE REMAINING 22,500, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE ON OUR EXPRESSWAYS.
UM, SOME OTHER LIGHTING THAT WE'VE GOT AROUND TOWN.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO EVALUATE WHEN IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO CHANGE THOSE OUT, UM, BASED ON AVAILABILITY AND WHEN IT MAKES ECONOMICAL SENSE TO DO SO.
AND THEN SOME ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS THAT WE ADDED, UM, THAT WERE OUTSIDE OF THIS PROGRAM THAT PAID FOR ITSELF WAS, FOR EXAMPLE, ADDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IN D FIVE TO RESIDENTIAL, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS IN D FIVE.
THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ REALLY PUSHED FOR FOR SEVERAL YEARS, GOT ADDITIONAL FUNDING WITHIN THE BUDGET, UH, ABOUT $3 MILLION OVER THREE YEARS.
SO WE ACTUALLY WENT AND ADDED ADDITIONAL LIGHTING WITHIN DISTRICT FIVE.
THE LIGHTING STANDARDS BASICALLY LOOK AT, YOU GET A STREET LIGHT ON EVERY CORNER, EACH, UH, END POINT ON A BLOCK.
IF IT'S MORE THAN, IF THAT BLOCK IS MORE THAN 600 FEET, 600 FEET OR MORE IN LENGTH, YOU ALSO GET A LIGHT MID-BLOCK.
UM, MANY OF OUR OLDER DISTRICTS, D FIVE, THE WAY THE BLOCKS ARE SET UP, YOU END UP BEING JUST UNDER 600 FEET.
SO YOU END UP WITH BIGGER SPACING ON THE STREET LIGHTING.
SO IN THIS CASE, WE ADDED A LOT OF ADDITIONAL LIGHTING TO D FIVE.
YOU CAN SEE 3000, ROUGHLY 3,800 NEW LIGHTS WERE DONE IN DISTRICT FIVE.
AND WE ALSO RETROFITTED THE ROUGHLY 2100 EXISTING STREETLIGHTS, RESIDENTIAL STREETLIGHTS THERE AS WELL.
SO D FIVE IS PRETTY MUCH DONE.
I KNOW THERE'S A FEW AREAS, ALLEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT.
HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE THAT, THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO GET TO WHERE THERE'S NOT POWER IN THE ALLEY OR IT MIGHT INVOLVE TRENCHING.
WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPTIONS FOR THAT.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK D FIVE IS DONE WITH REALLY GOOD RESULTS THERE.
UM, JUST, HERE'S A, I APOLOGIZE.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES, BUT WE GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM DISTRICT FIVE AND WE ROLLED THIS OUT.
UM, THE, THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS THE L E D STREET LIGHTING.
THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT IS MORE OF THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE IMPACT OF PUTTING IN NOT ONLY THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, BUT THE L E D LIGHTING, UM, CERTAINLY HAS A BIG IMPACT ON, ON THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THE AMOUNT OF LIGHTING THAT'S THERE IN TERMS OF, AGAIN, STREETLIGHT INVESTMENTS AND WHAT WE'VE DONE TODAY, THE MAJORITY OF IT HAS BEEN DONE, UH, WITH THE SAVINGS FROM THE ENERGY AND OTHER, THE PROJECT HAS BASICALLY PAID FOR ITSELF.
THE MAJOR STREETS WAS A COST OF ABOUT $11.3 MILLION.
DOWNTOWN IS A PROJECTED COST OF ABOUT $3 MILLION.
AND THEN, THEN TO DO THE ADDITIONAL 30,000 STREETLIGHTS IN OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, THAT'S ABOUT 9.9 MILLION.
ALL OF THAT IS BEING FUNDED OFF OF THE ENERGY SAVINGS.
SO WE BASICALLY PAY FOR THE NEW LIGHT WITH C P SS, WE USE THE ENERGY SAVINGS TO PAY FOR THAT CAPITAL COST.
SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COST TO THE CITY.
OUR BUDGET BASICALLY STAYS THE SAME.
THE NEW LIGHTING THAT WE PUT OUT IN DISTRICT FIVE, I MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS $3 MILLION ADDED OVER THE COURSE OF THREE YEARS AS ADVOCATED BY, UM, COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ TO PUT THAT IN THE BUDGET AS ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO ADD ADDITIONAL LIGHTING, NOT TO RETROFIT, BUT TO ACTUAL ADD ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IN EAST POINT, ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS THAT CAME FROM ONE OF THE TAX INCREMENT RE UH, REFINANCING ZONES AS WELL AS SOME C D P G FUNDING.
AND THEN THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT EACH OF YOU HAVE WITHIN YOUR DISTRICT BUDGETS THAT, UH, REMAINS TO BE ALLOCATED.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ALL ON IN TERMS OF AREAS WHERE YOU THINK YOU NEED ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ON THOSE.
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ISSUES, UM, THAT WE WANTED TO COVER WITH YOU IN FUTURE PROJECTS.UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS TALKED A LOT ABOUT LAST YEAR WAS THE LIGHT TEMPERATURE OR THE LIGHT COLOR.
AND THIS WAS SOMETHING C P S STARTED TO LOOK AT.
THIS GRAPHIC JUST SHOWS WHAT THAT LIGHT COLOR TEMPERATURE LOOKS LIKE TO THE FAR LEFT.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR COOL WHITE LIGHTS TO THE FAR RIGHT, YOU'VE GOT YOUR WARMER KIND OF ORANGES LIGHTS.
THE MOST OF THE LIGHTS THAT WE HAVE OUT TODAY, UM, THAT ARE NOT L E D, ARE THAT 2,700 KELVIN HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHTING, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TO THE RIGHT ON THAT ORANGE ORANGES SPECTRUM.
UM, GOING FURTHER TO THE LEFT, WE'VE GOT 4,000 KELVIN, L E D.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE WHITE WHITER LIGHT.
UM, AND THEN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE THERE, YOU'VE GOT THE 3000 KELVIN L E D, WHICH IS CLOSE TO THE, TO THE HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM LIGHTING THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE TODAY.
C P S REALLY LOOKED AT THAT AND WANTED TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD.
UM, THESE PICTURES JUST SHOW WHAT SOME OF THAT LIGHTING LOOKS LIKE.
4,000 KELVIN, L E D ON THE FAR LEFT, A 3000 KELVIN, UH, LIGHT RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THE 2,700 KELVIN HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM.
ON THE FAR RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE 3000 KELVIN L E D AND THE 2,700 KELVIN HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM FAIRLY CLOSE IN TERMS OF THE, THE COLOR LOOK, BUT YOU ALSO SEE LESS LIGHT GOING UP OFF OF THE L E D, MORE FOCUSED DOWNWARD ON THE L E D LIGHTING.
UM, LESS GLARE OFF OF THE L E D AND THEN THE 4,000 KELVIN, AGAIN, STARTS TO MOVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO THAT WHITE SPECTRUM.
C P S REALLY LOOKED AT ALL OF THIS AND WANTED TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD FOR OUR STREET LIGHTING.
AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION IS ON THIS SLIDE, THEY'RE RECOMMENDING 4,000 KELVIN FOR OUR HIGHWAYS AND MAJOR ROADWAYS.
UM, THERE THE TRAFFIC'S MOVING A BIT FASTER, SO THEY'RE WANTING TO PUT OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT ALONG THOSE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
UM, 3000 KELVIN ON OUR RESIDENTIAL ROADWAYS WHERE THE TRAFFIC SPEED'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER.
UM, AND THEY ARE, THEY WILL WORK WITH NEIGHBORHOODS OR WITH COUNCIL DISTRICTS IF YOU HAVE PARTICULAR AREAS WHERE YOU WANT TO SEE A HIGHER KELVIN.
UH, WELL, FOR EXAMPLE, IN DISTRICT FIVE, UM, THOSE ARE ALL 4,000 KELVIN BULBS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE, BOTH THE RETROFIT AND THE, UM, THE NEW LIGHTS THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE.
SO AGAIN, UM, THAT WAS DONE TO, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS A PREFERENCE FOR COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ IN TERMS OF, OF, OF STAYING WITH THE 4,000 KELVIN.
WE HAD ALREADY STARTED TO DEPLOY THOSE IN THAT DISTRICT WHEN WE STARTED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
SO IN ORDER TO KEEP THOSE STANDARD, WE KEPT THOSE IN PLACE FOR DISTRICT FIVE.
AND AGAIN, GOING FORWARD, THIS IS THE STANDARD, BUT THEY CAN WORK WITH US ON AREAS IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
ON THE DOWNTOWN LIGHTING PROJECT, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 1500 STREET LIGHTS THAT WE WANNA RETROFIT TO L E D.
ABOUT 500 OF THOSE HAVE BEEN DONE SO FAR.
THE REST ARE ON HOLD TO, UH, THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THERE.
A NUMBER OF THE POLES AND BASES DOWNTOWN ARE PRETTY, UM, ARE IN PRETTY POOR CONDITION.
SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE ALSO LOOKED AT REPLACING A NUMBER OF THOSE.
AND AGAIN, HAVING THE PROJECT PAY FOR ITSELF, SAME THING.
THESE ARE 400 WATT BULBS DOWNTOWN.
SO THERE'S MORE ENERGY SAVINGS THERE THAT WE CREATED A BUDGET OFF OF TO NOT ONLY PAY FOR THE NEW HIGH PRESSURE, SODIUM LIGHT, BUT TO PAY FOR THESE NEW, UM, TRAFFIC POLES.
UM, OR NOT TRAFFIC POLES, STREET LIGHT POLES THAT WOULD BE DEPLOYED WITH THE NEW LIGHTS.
UM, THAT DESIGN ON THE FAR RIGHT HAS BEEN SELECTED.
IT'S GOT, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN SOME AREAS OF DOWNTOWN ALREADY.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE BASE AND THE POLE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING DEPLOYING DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN AS PART OF THE, UM, DOWNTOWN DISCUSSION, I GUESS IT WAS ABOUT A YEAR, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATION AROUND WE LIGHTING STANDARDS.
DOWNTOWN MENTIONED THAT MOST OF THE LIGHTING DOWNTOWN IS 400 WATT.
UM, IT'S A HIGHER WATTAGE BULB.
UM, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF LIGHTING DOWNTOWN, PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, STREET LIGHTING, STOREFRONT LIGHTING.
THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION LAST YEAR ABOUT CREATING SOME STANDARDS FOR DOWNTOWN.
AND AS PART OF THAT DISCUSSION, WE ISSUED AN R F Q FOR A CONSULTANT TO COME IN AND HELP US, UH, DEVELOP A DOWNTOWN LIGHTING MASTER PLAN.
THEY WOULD BE ASSESSING AND INVENTORYING ALL THE STREET LIGHTING, ALL THE LIGHTING DOWNTOWN.
THEY WOULD, UM, ESTABLISH SOME STANDARDS FOR RECOMMENDED LIGHTING.
ALL THAT WOULD BE DONE BASED ON A LOT OF STAKEHOLDER INPUT.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE BE HAVING A LOT OF, UM, UH, INFORMATION GATHERING, GETTING INPUT FROM THE DOWNTOWN COMMUNITY AND OTHERS ABOUT WHAT THIS DOWNTOWN LIGHTING SHOULD LOOK LIKE.
THEY WOULD CREATE THE MAPS AND STANDARDS THAT WOULD BECOME THE GUIDE FOR US TO FOLLOW.
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ABOUT MAYBE THE KINDS OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE MIGHT DEPLOY DOWNTOWN THAT WE MAY NOT NOT DEPLOY, UH, UH, ELSEWHERE, BUT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER FIT FOR DOWNTOWN.SO THERE'S A LOT OF WORK TO BE DONE THERE.
UM, DISCUSSION INCLUDED, C P S OF COURSE, AS WE LOOKED AT THE PROJECT AND HOW TO FUND, UM, THIS PROJECT, HALF OF IT WILL BE FUNDED WITH THE PROJECT THAT I MENTIONED THAT'S BASED OFF THE SAVINGS OFF OF THE LIGHT THEMSELVES, THE LIGHTS THEMSELVES.
AND THEN THE OTHER HALF WILL BE FUNDED BY C P S ENERGY.
THE STUDY AREA IS BASICALLY THE SOUTHERN BOUNDARY OF DISTRICT ONE.
AND THEN IT FOLLOWS I 35 AND I 37 AND WITH A LITTLE BIT OF A CUTOUT FOR INCORPORATING THE DOME AREA AS WELL.
SO AS PART OF THAT R F Q PROCESS, A UM, COMMITTEE EVALUATED, WE GOT FOUR RESPONSES TO THAT R F Q AND I'VE GOT THE FOUR FIRMS LISTED HERE.
THEY WERE ALDERSON AND ASSOCIATES, TARA DESIGN, SLUM AND CLANTON AND ASSOCIATES.
THE, UH, RECOMMENDED FIRM COMING OUT OF THE, UH, SELECTION PROCESS WAS ALDERSON AND ASSOCIATES.
THEY'VE GOT A SUBCONTRACT WITH RANDY BURQUETTE, WHO'S DONE A NUMBER OF, UH, LIGHTING PROJECTS ACROSS THE US INCLUDING IN ST.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE HAD 20 POINTS ASSIGNED FOR S BETA, WHICH I BELIEVE INCLUDED SMALL BUSINESS AND EMERGING SMALL BUSINESS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, THEY WERE THE ONLY GROUP TO, TO GET ANY POINTS OFF OF THE CE BETA.
SO THAT REALLY MADE A DIFFERENCE ON, UH, THE, THE OUTCOME HERE.
SO THEY ARE THE RECOMMENDED FIRM.
UH, WE HAVE UTILIZED ASSISTANCE FROM T C I TO HELP DEVELOP THE SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS GROUP, AND WE'VE GOTTEN THAT DONE, UH, AS WELL AS THE PRICE SET IN AT JUST AT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WE ARE GONNA BE BRINGING THIS FORWARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
NOT TOMORROW, BUT TWO WEEKS FROM TOMORROW.
WE'LL HAVE THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD WITH ALDERSON AND ASSOCIATES.
SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT INCLUDE SMART CITY LIGHTING.
UM, C P S HAS ALSO APPROACHED US ABOUT A NUMBER OF FEATURES, FUNCTIONALITY THAT CAN BE APPLIED TO STREET LIGHTING ACROSS THE CITY.
WE DID A SMALL PILOT IN DISTRICT FIVE, UH, 90 LIGHTS, SOME OF THAT AROUND CASCIANO PARK.
UM, THE PILOT WAS REALLY LOOKING AT A LOT OF THE SMART LIGHTING FEATURES AND CONTROLS TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, DIMMING CAPABILITIES, SENSORS THAT CAN MAKE THE LIGHTING BE IT BRIGHTER, UM, IF THERE'S ANY ACTIVITY IN THE AREA.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH STREETLIGHTS IS THEY'RE NOT METERED.
SO AS THEY MOVE OR AS THINGS CHANGE, IT'S HARD TO KEEP TRACK OF 77,000 LIGHTS.
C P S HAS TO KEEP TRACK OF MANY MORE LIGHTS.
THESE, ONE OF THE THINGS THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS A G P S INDICATOR THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO LOOK AT THAT FROM A G P S MAPPING CAPABILITY AND BE ABLE TO REALLY TRACK THOSE LIGHTS.
UM, THE DIMMING FEATURES I MENTIONED.
UM, OTHER THINGS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, OUTAGE.
ALSO, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE RELY LOT ON PEOPLE CALLING IN AND SAYING, UM, MY STREETLIGHT IS OUT.
CAN YOU PLEASE COME OUT AND FIX IT? UH, HAVING THE ABILITY TO JUST HAVE AN AUTOMATIC, UH, SENSOR THAT WILL NOTIFY C P S OF AN OUTAGE SO THEY COULD SEND A CREW OUT AND GET THAT REPLACED.
SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF, UH, POTENTIAL ADDITIONS FOR SMART LIGHTING ACROSS THE CITY.
SOME OF THE RESULTS OF THAT PILOT WERE, UM, IT'S STILL A LITTLE BIT OF A WORK IN PROGRESS IN TERMS OF TESTING SOME OF THAT, BUT THERE WAS SOME GOOD FEEDBACK, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE PARK.
UM, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK WAS THAT THE DIMMING CAPABILITIES IN THE PARK LATE AT NIGHT SEEMED TO FEEL, PEOPLE FELT LIKE THAT WAS MAYBE A DETERRENT FOR PEOPLE TO BE IN THE PARK LATE AT NIGHT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE SENSORS, IF THERE WAS ACTIVITY IN THE PARK, THE LIGHTS WOULD COME UP AND, AND, UH, GET BRIGHTER.
SO, UM, THAT WAS CERTAINLY A, A FEATURE THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO PARTNER WITH C P S ON, UM, THESE FUNCTIONS.
I WILL SAY THAT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR, THOUGH, I MENTIONED THE BULK OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE HAS PAID FOR ITSELF, OTHER THAN REALLY WHAT WE DID IN D FIVE, ADDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
THE ENERGY SAVINGS HAS BEEN USED TO PAY FOR THE PROJECT.
SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO KEEP IT COST NEUTRAL.
I THINK AS WE START TO LOOK AT DEPLOYING THE SMART CITY INITIATIVES, WE KNOW THAT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE'RE GONNA BE OUTSIDE THE COST NEUTRAL.
THERE'S GONNA BE A COST TO IT.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET A GAUGE OF TO HOW SIGNIFICANT THAT WOULD BE.
BUT THAT WOULD BE THE REASON WE WOULD BE CONTINUING THE PILOT TO GET A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THOSE COSTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
UM, WHAT FEATURES MAKE SENSE, MAYBE IN SOME AREAS, NOT ALL AREAS.
UM, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT.
WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO YOU ONCE WE HAVE MORE RESULTS AROUND COST AND AROUND, UM, HOW THOSE, HOW THOSE SMART LIGHTING FEATURES FUNCTION.
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WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE RETROFIT OF THE 30,000 RESIDENTIAL STREETLIGHTS.I MENTIONED PART OF THAT WILL INCLUDE THE CONTINUATION OF THIS PILOT UP FRONT.
SO BEFORE WE DO THEM ALL, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ALL AND SAY, WHERE DO WE THINK THAT WE NEED TO ADD IN SOME OF THESE SMART CITY FEATURES? OR DO WE NEED TO ADD IN SOME OF THESE SMART CITY FEATURES AND AT WHAT COST? SO WE CAN HAVE MORE CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL ABOUT THAT.
I'LL ALSO ADD THAT WE'VE DEPLOYED LIGHTING.
I MENTIONED IN D FIVE, WE'VE DONE ALL THE RETROFITS IN D FIVE.
WE'VE ADDED THE INFILL LIGHTING IN D FIVE.
THOSE ARE SECOND GENERATION STREETLIGHTS.
SO TO THE EXTENT WE DECIDE, YOU ALL DECIDE FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, WE WANT TO ADD THESE SMART LIGHTING FUNCTIONS TO ALL STREET LIGHTS CITYWIDE.
IT'S A VERY SIMPLE ADD-ON TO THOSE LIGHTS.
THEY'RE ALREADY, UM, CAPABLE OF DOING THAT.
SO IT'S A VERY SMALL ADDITION THAT WE WOULD ADD TO THE LIGHTS.
SO WE DIDN'T LOSE ANYTHING BY MAKING THAT INVESTMENT IN D FIVE ALREADY.
WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GO BACK AND DO THAT, UH, IF THE COUNCIL, SO CHOOSE TO, SO CHOOSE TO, UH, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THE SMART LIGHTING FEATURES, UM, WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN LIGHTING STUDY.
WE'RE GONNA BE, AGAIN, RECOMMENDING ALDERSON AND ASSOCIATES AT YOUR, UH, NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
AND THEN WE WOULD WORK ON FINALIZING THE SMART LIGHT PILOT COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS SO THAT WE COULD BRING THAT BACK TO PROBABLY ONE OF THE COUNCIL COMMITTEES.
UM, YOU KNOW, COULD EVEN MAYBE COME TO THE NEW TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE 'CAUSE IT'S TALKING ABOUT SMART LIGHTING, BUT WE WOULD SHARE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE PILOT AND THEN WHAT THOSE COSTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE SO WE CAN HAVE A BROADER CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL AS A BODY ABOUT WHAT PIECES OR WHAT COMPONENTS WOULD YOU ALL BE INTERESTED IN DEPLOYING.
AND WE'LL OF COURSE HAVE MORE DATA AROUND THE COSTS.
SO WITH THAT, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
AND I DO HAVE, UH, INDIVIDUALS FROM C P SS HERE AS WELL THAT CAN HELP ANSWER QUESTIONS.
CHERYL, YOU WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING? YEAH, UH, JUST TO SAY A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN LIGHTING STUDY, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE SERVED ON THE COUNCIL FOR, UM, UH, SEVERAL YEARS, KNOW THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT MOVING FORWARD WITH A PLAN THAT HAD THE SAME LIGHTING THAT WE'RE USING ON THE MAJOR STREETS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND, UH, WE WERE ASKED TO STUDY THAT AGAIN.
AND IN FACT, IN PARTNERSHIP WITH COUNCILMAN TREVINO, WE ACTUALLY HOSTED, UM, A ROUND TABLE DISCUSSION AND BROUGHT IN SOME EXPERTS, UH, FROM THE AREA AND FROM ELSEWHERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TYPE OF LIGHTING FOR DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY IMPORTANT BUILDINGS AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTING ON THE BUILDINGS, AND WE NEEDED TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUES, BUT ALSO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE HISTORIC ARCHITECTURE WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND SO AT COUNCILMAN TREVINOS URGING, UM, WE DID SOME ADDITIONAL WORK AND DID THIS R F P THAT BEN IS TALKING ABOUT, TO FIND A CONSULTANT THAT HAD EXPERTISE IN LIGHTING, NOT ONLY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES, BUT ALSO WITH REGARD AND RESPECT TO, UH, THE BUILDINGS AND THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AND, UH, HOW TO MELD THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF LIGHTING ON OUR STRUCTURES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO, UH, THANK YOU TO COUNCILMAN TREVINO FOR HELPING US WITH THAT.
WE'RE NOW IN A POSITION TO MOVE FORWARD AND WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT CONTRACT TO COUNCIL, AS BEN SAID, IN SHORT ORDER, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND AS A RESULT OF THAT ANALYSIS, HAVE MODIFIED THE RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND THANK YOU BEN FOR THE, UH, PRESENTATION.
I, AND I WON'T SAY MUCH, BUT I DID WANT TO THANK COUNCILMAN TREVINO TOO.
HE IS, UH, EXHIBITED A LOT OF, UH, PERSISTENCE WITH THIS ISSUE, AND I THINK THE, THE WORK HAS PAID OFF.
UM, KNOWING THAT, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT LIGHTING IS NOT JUST LIGHTING, IT IS A BALANCE OF AESTHETIC, IT'S SAFETY.
UH, IT'S ALSO HEALTH, WHICH I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK DONE TO STUDY THE COLOR TEMPERATURE BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF EXPERTS NOW THAT HAVE COME OUT, UH, SPECIFICALLY ON THAT ISSUE TO ADVISE US ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOWERING THE COLOR TEMPERATURE FOR, YOU KNOW, THE AESTHETIC, BUT ALSO BECAUSE IT DOESN'T IMPACT PEOPLE'S HEALTH.
I AM CURIOUS, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK, AND I GLAD, I'M GLAD, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF MIKE FRISBEE WAS INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATION, BUT WE HAVE ALSO BEEN DISCUSSING THE USE OF MODULES THAT CAN BE EXPANDED LATER ON FOR TECHNOLOGY, COMMUNITY TECH COMMUNICATION AND SO FORTH.
SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT'S IN THERE.
THERE WAS A CONVERSATION IN THE COMMUNITY, HOWEVER, AS A RESULT OF SA TOMORROW WITH RESPECT TO DARK SKIES.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS LIGHTING PLAN DOESN'T NECESSARILY SPEAK TO THE USE OF DOWN LIGHTING AND, AND THE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, BUT WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? DOES ANY, DOES ANYONE HAVE, UM, AN UPDATE ABOUT, ARE WE RE-ENGAGING THE DARK SKY CONVERSATION AT ANY POINT SOON? YES, MAYOR
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COUNCIL, UM, ACTUALLY WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE NEXT WEEK, AN UPDATE ON WHERE, WHERE WE ARE WITH THE DARK SKY.UH, WE WILL BE PROPOSING TO, UH, IN FEBRUARY COME TO FULL COUNCIL WITH AN EXPANSION OF, UH, THE DARK SKY AND AN UPDATE TO THAT.
SO YOU'LL HEAR THAT IN A WEEK.
AND, UH, AND THEN A COUPLE WEEKS AFTER, YOU'LL SEE IT AT FULL COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.
WELL, I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CONVERSATION.
IT'S AGAIN, ALSO FOR AESTHETIC, BUT ALSO THERE IS A, A DEFINITELY A MILITARY, UH, PROTECTION, UH, COMPONENT TO THAT DISCUSSION.
GLAD THAT THIS WORK IS FINALLY COMING TO FRUITION.
WE'LL SEE, SEE A CONTRACT PROVIDED TO COUNCIL TRAVINO.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO, I WANT TO FIRST REALLY THANK JOHN LEON BECAUSE, UH, WITHOUT JOHN LEON'S HELP AND C P S, UM, THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IS, IS TO SET A GREAT EXAMPLE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY.
SO, UH, MY HOPE IS THAT, UH, THIS SHOWS THE, THE NECESSITY FOR, FOR A REAL PLAN, UH, A PLAN THAT IS, THAT IS REALLY ADDRESSING SO MANY FACTORS THAT CITIES, UH, AROUND THE WORLD ARE FACING.
AND I, I, I WOULD SAY THAT I, I, MY HOPE IS THAT THE, THE, THE FOLKS THAT WE DID SELECT TO DO THIS, UH, DOWNTOWN, UH, LIGHTING PLAN THAT INCLUDES KING WILLIAM AND LA BACA WILL BE LOOKING AT ALL FACTORS.
THAT THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK OF LIGHTING, UM, AND DARK SKIES SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT.
IF IT'S NOT, THEN I WON'T SUPPORT IT.
THIS IS A, THIS IS ABOUT CREATING THE RIGHT KIND OF STRATEGY FOR A CITY AND SETTING SOME EXAMPLES OF, OF HOW THESE KIND OF THINGS AFFECT PUBLIC SAFETY, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND ULTIMATELY, UH, ARE ABOUT HOW WE MOVE OUR CITY FORWARD WELL INTO THE FUTURE.
YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I WANT TO THANK CENTRO WHO'S HERE, UH, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE CERTAINLY ALWAYS SUPPORTING, UH, INNOVATION THAT, THAT, UH, DOWNTOWN PROVIDES FOR THE REST OF OUR CITY.
AND THIS IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF WHAT I HOPE WE GET OUT OF THIS.
UH, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
THE, THE, THE IDEA IS THAT WE LOOK AT LIGHTING AS, AS A MAJOR, UH, COMPONENT OF, OF HOW OUR CITY IS, IS SEEING HOW OUR CITY THRIVES.
IT IS IT, IT'S, IT IS A MAJOR PUBLIC, UH, SAFETY ISSUE.
IT ALSO IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DRIVER.
UM, AND SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD, UH, I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA SET A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR WE WHY A, A, A LIGHTING PLAN IS SO CRITICAL THAT JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, WE, WE NEED TO WORK TOWARDS HAVING A PLAN THAT ACTUALLY, UH, HELPS TO, UH, ADDRESS CONCERNS LIKE THE MAYOR POINTED OUT DARK SKIES, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
AND ALL THESE, UH, ARE THINGS THAT I THINK BENEFIT EVERYBODY IN THE CITY AND CERTAINLY HOPE THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE, WE CAN SHOW THAT THERE'S A REASON WHY, WHY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT NOW FOR TWO YEARS.
UM, BUT I'M, I'M GLAD TO GET TO THIS POINT.
AS CHERYL MENTIONED, WE, WE HAD, UM, SEVERAL DISCUSSIONS.
WE, WE EVEN HAD A, UM, A LUNCHEON AROUND LIGHTING AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT IT AND HOW IT AFFECTS OUR CITY.
UH, I, I, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER YEAR THAN OUR TRICENTENNIAL TO SET THAT EXAMPLE FOR A CITY MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF THING THAT, UH, IS A PIVOT, PIVOTING, PIVOTAL POINT FOR OUR CITY AND HOW WE GROW, HOW WE DEVELOP, AND WHAT IT MEANS TO, TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT 300 YEARS AS, AS A VERY, VERY, UH, UNIQUE CITY THAT MANY PEOPLE KNOW.
AND, UH, THE STAFF AT C P SS AS WELL AS THE COUNCILMAN FOR, FOR LEADING THE EFFORT ON THIS.
I JUST HAVE SOME CLARIFYING QUESTIONS.
THAT I HOPE YOU CAN, UH, HELP ME WITH, UM, NUMBER ONE, THE, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT, UH, WE'LL BE TRACKING WHERE THE LIGHT FIXTURES ARE.
UM, I THINK THAT'LL BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL IN CONSTITUENT SERVICES WHEN PEOPLE ASK ABOUT THESE ISSUES.
UM, NOW IN TERMS OF THE SAVINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN QUANTIFYING, UH, IN THE LONG TERM, WILL WE HAVE ENOUGH SAVINGS TO PERHAPS INSTALL ADDITIONAL LIGHT FIXTURES? HOW, HOW FAR WILL THE SAVINGS GET US? SO RIGHT NOW, THE SAVINGS IS BASICALLY GETTING US BREAKEVEN.
WE'RE ABLE TO PAY FOR THE RETROFIT ITSELF, UH, IN MOST AREAS AND, AND GET THAT COST COVERED.
AND THEN DOWNTOWN, BECAUSE THEY'RE USING HIGHER WATTAGE BULBS, WE WERE ABLE TO NOT ONLY GET THE RETROFIT OF THE EXISTING LIGHTS DONE,
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BUT ALSO PAY FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME NEW STREET STREET LIGHT POLES AS WELL.AND IN TERMS OF DOLLARS, HOW, HOW MUCH IS THAT? UM, IN TERMS OF DOLLARS, IT'S ON SLIDE.
SO THE RETROFITS WE'VE DONE TO DATE, THE MAJOR STREETS WERE DONE FROM 2012 TO 2014.
THE BUDGET FOR DOWNTOWN IS 3 MILLION.
AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL STREET LIGHTS, THE ADDITIONAL, THE, UH, REMAINING 30,000 STREET LIGHTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST, UH, LAST YEAR IS $9.9 MILLION.
AND THEN THE NEW LIGHTING IS LISTED BELOW THAT, THAT WAS DONE OUTSIDE OF THE BREAKEVEN MODEL.
THAT WAS WHERE, UM, ADDITIONAL FUNDING WAS PUT IN PLACE TO ADD ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
THAT'S A LOT OF, UH, SAVINGS
UM, IT, ANOTHER QUESTION, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT IN DISTRICT FIVE, UH, YOU INSTALLED THE 4,000 KELVIN.
AND, UH, DO YOU, CAN YOU TELL ME WHY YOU'RE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT GOING FORWARD IN OTHER RESIDENTIAL STREETS? SO THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
WE HAD ALREADY BEGUN, UH, DEPLOYING THE 4,000 KELVIN LIGHTS IN D FIVE.
SO WE WERE ALREADY PROBABLY, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY HALFWAY THROUGH THE, UH, ADDITION OF THE, THE NEW LIGHTING IN D FIVE.
AND THEN THERE, THERE BEGAN A LOT OF ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION AROUND A LIGHTING STANDARD.
UM, WHAT SHOULD THAT BE FOR L E D? UM, THREE SOMETHING CLOSER TO 3000 KELVIN TO 4,000 KELVIN.
AND THIS THING'S KIND OF BEEN EVOLVING AS, AS OTHER ENTITIES HAVE LOOKED AT THIS.
AND THEN THERE WAS A STUDY THAT CAME OUT BY THE AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION IN MAYBE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, TWO YEARS AGO, THAT THAT ALSO RECOMMENDED, UM, A LOWER TEMPERATURE.
AND SO THAT WAS BETTER FROM A HEALTH PERSPECTIVE.
SO THEY WERE RECOMMENDING SOMETHING CLOSE TO 3000 KELVIN.
SO C P S REALLY LOOKED AT ALL OF THAT IN DEVELOPING THE STANDARDS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF BALANCING BOTH SAFETY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE VEHICULAR TRAFFIC THAT'S HA THAT HA THAT IS HAPPENING ON THE ROADWAYS, BUT ALSO THESE OTHER, UM, COMPONENTS THAT REALLY CAME UP WITH A STANDARD TO SAY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND 3000 KELVIN ON THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, WE'RE GONNA STAY 4,000 KELVIN.
'CAUSE AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC IS MOVING QUITE A BIT FASTER THERE.
UM, AND TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'VE GOT THE RIGHT TYPE OF LIGHTING THERE.
SO THAT WAS THE BALANCE, BUT WE HAD ALREADY BEGUN DEPLOYING THAT IN, IN D FIVE.
UM, SO WE STAYED WITH THAT TO FINISH OFF D FIVE.
AND IN TERMS OF, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU HAVE EXPRESSWAYS AND, AND FAST CARS, YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT THAT TO BE A WALLET SO THAT THE PEDESTRIANS DON'T YES.
UM, BUT ARE THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY INDUSTRY STANDARDS OR NATIONAL SAFETY STANDARDS AROUND THAT? OR IS, OR IS THAT OUR OWN RECOMMENDATION? OUR LOCAL RECOMMENDATION, THE 4,000 KELVIN AROUND THAT, THAT IS THE C P S RECOMMENDATION.
UM, I KNOW THEY LOOKED AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
I DUNNO IF RICHARD WANTS TO COME UP AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND I'LL ALSO MENTION BEFORE I FORGET ON, ON, ON THE PICTURES, I KNOW IT SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO TELL ON THE LIGHTING THE DIFFERENCES.
AND THEN WE ALSO FOUND THAT WHEN YOU'RE TAKING PICTURES OF THE LIGHTING WITH THE DIGITAL CAMERA, DEPENDING UPON THE SHUTTER SPEED, IT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THE PICTURE THAN IT DOES WHEN YOU'RE ACTUALLY STANDING THERE.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU ALL WANTED TO SEE ANY OF THOSE PARTICULAR LOCATIONS, WE COULD SHARE THAT WHERE WE HAVE 3000 KELVIN HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM OR 4,000 KELVINS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
BUT I'LL LET RICHARD SPEAK TO WHAT THEY LOOKED AT.
CURRENTLY ON THE LIGHTING STANDARDS FOR STREET LIGHTS, THERE IS NO, UH, STANDARD FOR THE TEMPERATURE.
SO EVERY CITY IS PICKING THE COLOR TEMPERATURES THAT SERVE THEM BEST.
SO INITIALLY, PRIOR TO 2012, A LOT OF THE LEDS WERE AROUND 5,000 TEMPERATURE CALVIN, WHICH WAS A MORE BLUER LIGHT.
AND THEN RIGHT AT 2012, THEY, THE, UH, TECHNOLOGY WAS EVOLVING AND WE GOT IT DOWN TO 4,000.
AND THOSE ARE ALL THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.
SO TECH STUTTS STANDARD IS 4,000.
AND THE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES WERE RECOMMENDING IT'S 4,000 FOR RESIDENTIAL, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
IT'S THE BALANCE OF AESTHETICS.
UH, SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING 3000, BUT A LOT OF THE SECURITY LIGHTING YOU GO BY AT HOME DEPOT IS ALL 5,000, 6,000.
I APPRECIATE THE, THE BRIEFING.
AND, UM, THANKS FOR THE UPDATE, UH, ON THE LIGHTING.
UH, I KNOW THAT, UM, THE PUBLIC WAS VERY HAPPY WITH THE LIGHTING IN DISTRICT FIVE AND, AND NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT THE LIGHTS BEING TOO BRIGHT.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FEEDBACK, OR AT LEAST NOT FROM MY
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PERSPECTIVE.I DIDN'T HAVE A SINGLE CONSTITUENT SAID, NO, NO, IT'S TOO MUCH.
UM, SO, UH, I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GET THAT FEEDBACK.
PERHAPS THERE IS, IS WHEN THERE'S A COMMUNITY THAT ISN'T AS TROUBLED WITH CRIME AS WE ARE, PERHAPS A LOWER LIGHTING MIGHT, UH, THE COMMUNITY MIGHT BE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
BUT IN OURS, THEY REALLY REQUESTED VERY BRIGHT LIGHTING.
AND IN FACT, WHEN YOU ASK THEM HOW BRIGHT DO YOU WANT IT, THEY SAY THEY WANT IT AS BRIGHT AS DAYLIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANT.
I MEAN, THEY WANNA BE ABLE TO SEE EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY.
AND IN FACT, I GOT COMMENTS, UM, ON CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN THE LIGHTS CAME ON THAT THEY WERE DANCING IN THE STREET, LITERALLY.
UM, SO IT, IT HAS BEEN A GREAT PROGRAM AND A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, BUT I JUST, I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, UM, SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN LIGHTING PROJECTS AND, AND PROJECTS FOR, UH, MORE DECORATIVE OR ENHANCEMENT LIGHTING IN SOME OF OUR NEAR DOWNTOWN AREAS.
UH, I HA I HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE THAT, THAT LAST YEAR I WENT WITH COUNCILMAN LOPEZ OR MAYBE A FEW YEARS AGO WITH COUNCILMAN LOPEZ AND A TEAM TO PUEBLA.
UH, AND PUEBLA IS A SORT OF AN A, A MID-SIZE CITY IN MEXICO, A LITTLE BIT SOUTH.
AND IN ORDER TO HELP THEM WITH THEIR TOURISM INDUSTRY IN PARTICULAR, UH, AND HIGHLIGHTING THEIR CULTURAL ASSETS, THEY DID A CITYWIDE LIGHTING PROGRAM WHERE THEY HIGHLIGHTED ALL OF THEIR CHURCHES AND THEY HAD LIKE 350 CHURCHES IN THEIR CITY.
UH, AND IT WAS ESPECIALLY BEAUTIFUL.
AND I'M, UM, I'M SHOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS, OR I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS DOWNTOWN LIGHTING PROGRAM IS ONLY FOR DOWNTOWN, BUT WHAT ABOUT SOME OF OUR OTHER HISTORICAL AREAS AROUND THAT WE MIGHT CHOOSE TO HIGHLIGHT, LIKE THE MISSIONS OR, I KNOW I HAVE AT LEAST THREE CHURCHES IN MY AREA THAT ARE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, MAYBE THE BASILICA THAT'S AT THE LITTLE FLOWER.
IS THERE A POTENTIAL FOR THOSE TO BE HIGHLIGHTED AS WELL? IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT IN THIS SCOPE, UH, OF WORK FOR THIS MASTER PLAN.
THE, THE MASTER PLAN BOUNDARIES I SHOWED YOU IS REALLY THE STUDY AREA FOR THAT.
UM, I THINK IF THERE ARE AREAS THAT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT, WE COULD, WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE TO SEE HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS, UM, ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE AREAS AS WELL.
'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE, UM, AND IN FACT THEY HAD THIS IN PUEBLA BECAUSE THEY WERE HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE, THEIR, UM, MOST SIGNIFICANT DOWNTOWN AREA DOWNTOWN AREAS THAT THEY WERE ALL, UM, HIGHLIGHTED BY A DIFFERENT LIGHTING SCHEME.
SO YOU KNEW THAT YOU WERE GOING TO A PARTICULAR DESTINATION BASED ON THE LIGHTING.
UH, AND THEN THEY HAD SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAD BEEN, UM, MARGINALIZED.
AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT THEY IMPROVED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IS BY DOING DECORATIVE LIGHTING, UP LIGHTING AND DOWN LIGHTING AND SOME OF THE, UH, TREES AND OTHER THINGS.
SO I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD INCLUDE THAT, UH, AS PART OF OUR, UM, UH, WORLD HERITAGE TRAIL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S FUNDING FOR THAT OR IF THAT CAN BE DONE IN SOME WAY, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE AN OBVIOUS CONNECTION, UH, FROM THE DOWNTOWN THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE WORLD HERITAGE DESIGNATION, UH, AREA.
UH, THERE ARE SOME STREETLIGHTS ON, UH, I THINK IT'S ST.
MARY'S, UH, THAT TAKE YOU INTO, UH, THE SOUTH, SOUTH TOWN AREA, UH, THAT MAYBE WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ACTUAL LAMP AND THEN YOU MENTIONED, UH, HERE IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, THE DECORATIVE STRUCTURE? SO IN THE DECORATIVE STREETLIGHTS THAT WE HAVE, THOSE ARE MAINLY AROUND AREAS LIKE MISSION TRAILS, THOSE WERE PUT IN YEARS AGO.
SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF AREAS WHERE WE HAVE A, JUST A DIFFERENT, IT'S A, UH, A MORE DECORATIVE TYPE STREETLIGHT.
THE ONES THAT ARE DOWNTOWN ARE THE STANDARD WE'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP DOWNTOWN IS ON, UM, SLIDE 16.
AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, EVEN EVEN IN LOOKING AT THIS DOWNTOWN STUDY AREA, WHICH IS AGAIN, BOUNDED BY THE DISTRICT ONE BOUNDARY TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN 35, 37 PICKS UP THE DOME.
UM, JUST EVEN LOOKING IN THAT AREA, THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT STREETLIGHTS DOWNTOWN.
THERE ARE THE OLD TRI-PARTY LIGHTS.
THEY LOOK LIKE, UM, KIND OF THREE HOCKEY PUCKS, TALLER, UH, GRAY LOOKING STREET LIGHTS.
WE HAVE SOME OF THESE OLDER, UM, CALL 'EM COBRA HEAD OVERREACHING INTO THE ROADWAY LIGHTING.
WE HAVE LIGHTING ON TOP OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING, DIFFERENT KINDS OF STOREFRONT LIGHTING.
SO THAT'S PART OF WHAT THIS MASTER PLAN IS REALLY TO LOOK AT AND STANDARDIZE THAT FOR DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN LOOK AT SOME OF THE HISTORICAL BUILDINGS, GIVE US SOME, UH, GUIDES AROUND ARCHITECTURAL LIGHTING, UM, TO REALLY DEVELOP THIS
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STANDARD PLAN FOR DOWNTOWN.WELL I HOPE THEY COULD EXTEND THEM TO SOME OF OUR OTHER HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU, MAYOR.
UH, COUPLE QUESTIONS HERE ON, ON THE, UH, DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, DID WE, DID WE DO A MASTER PLAN FOR DISTRICT FIVE OR DID WE JUST GO AND REPLACE THE LIGHTS WITH THE LEDS? IN DISTRICT FIVE? WE DID NOT DO A MASTER PLAN.
UH, WE JUST WORKED WITH C P SS TO CREATE AREAS THAT WERE, WERE DESIGNED BASED ON ADDING THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IN.
SO IT WAS JUST A RETROFIT OF EXISTING LIGHTING AND THEN ADDING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IN.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THE, THE CHALLENGES IN SOME AREAS IN SOME NEIGHBORHOODS IS JUST BECAUSE OF THE SPACING, THE LENGTH OF THE BLOCK.
OUR CODE SAYS IF YOU'RE 600 FEET OR MORE, YOU GET LIGHTS ON EACH CORNER AND YOU GET ONE IN THE MID MID BLOCK AS WELL.
A LOT OF THOSE BLOCKS ARE JUST UNDER 600 FEET.
SO WE END UP WITH, UM, A LOT OF GAPS IN BETWEEN THE LIGHTING.
SO A BIG PART OF THE D FIVE WAS JUST GETTING ADDITIONAL LIGHTING INTO THE DISTRICT.
AND, UM, ON THIS CONTRACT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AWARDING, WHAT'S THE PROGRAMED AMOUNT ON THAT? THE BUDGET IS $500,000.
AND, UH, UM, I GUESS WHERE I'M GOING, DO WE REALLY NEED TO DO THE DESIGN OR CAN WE JUST USE THE, UH, SAME METHODOLOGY THAT WE USED IN DISTRICT FIVE ON REPLACING THE EXISTING LIGHTING WITH THE LEDS AND LOOKING AT WHAT'S IN THE CODES NOW AS FAR AS LIGHTING? DO WE NEED TO TAKE THIS THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS? WELL, I THINK WE LEARNED A COUPLE THINGS AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS LIGHTING PROCESS.
AND I MENTIONED IT KIND OF STARTED AS A PROJECT AND EVOLVED INTO MORE OF A PROGRAM.
I THINK A COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS HAVE BEEN, IF YOU LOOK ACROSS THE CITY, WE'VE COME TO UNDERSTAND VERY MUCH SO THAT, UM, PEOPLE VIEW LIGHTING VERY DIFFERENTLY IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF TOWN.
SOME AREAS ACTUALLY WANT LESS LIGHTING, THEY WANT FEWER STREET LIGHTS AND, AND WANT MORE, UM, DARK SKY TYPE LIGHTING.
YOU'VE GOT AREAS OF OF TOWN LIKE D FIVE THAT WANT AS MUCH LIGHTING AS THEY CAN GET.
UM, THE COUNCILWOMAN MENTIONED THIS, AND I THINK WE HEARD IT AS WELL, IF THEY COULD, IF WE COULD MAKE IT LOOK LIKE DAYTIME AND NIGHT, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO VERY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
UM, AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN, AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH DIFFERENT KINDS OF LIGHTING, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC, BUT YOU ALSO GOT A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BOTH, YOU KNOW, LOCALS AS WELL AS VISITORS COMING IN TRYING TO CREATE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR DOWNTOWN THAT INCORPORATES ALL OF THAT LOOKS AT STOREFRONT LIGHTING, LOOKS AT PEDESTRIAN LIGHTING.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF HISTORIC BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN.
UM, WE LEARNED THAT EVEN IN JUST SOMETIMES DOING A RETROFIT, WE COULD CAUSE ISSUES.
UM, WE HAD OUTAGES GO OUT MAYBE AROUND HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND WE WENT AND CHANGED FROM HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM TO L E D 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT CARRYING HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM ANYMORE.
PUTTING THE L E D LIGHT UP CAUSED GLARE AND ISSUES WITH THE LIGHTING THAT WAS ALREADY IN PLACE FOR THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS.
SO I, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, PLANNING WORK THAT NEEDS TO GO IN, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO THAT'S WHY UNDERSTAND, THAT'S WHY WE, WE PURSUED THIS STUDY WITH THE DOWNTOWN, BUT UH, OUT THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICTS, IF WE CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM, UM, DO WE, I GUESS I'M JUST QUESTIONING IN MY OWN MIND IF WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A DESIGN PACKAGE DONE FOR THESE OTHER AREAS BECAUSE WE GOT, YOU ALREADY HAVE DESIGN GUIDELINES ON PEDESTRIAN VERSUS STREET LIGHTING, THAT KIND OF THING.
SO, UM, WE'RE NOT, IS THAT THE PLAN? NO, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING, UH, ADDITIONAL MASTER PLANS AT THIS POINT TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
I THINK, UH, AS WE DEPLOY LIGHTING IN OTHER AREAS, IN OTHER DISTRICTS, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU ALL TALK WITH YOU ALL, BUT IT'S GONNA BE PROBABLY SOMETHING MORE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID IN D FIVE.
IT'S GONNA BE A RETROFIT OF THE EXISTING LIGHTING USING THE C P SS STANDARDS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA MOVE FROM HIGH PRESSURE SODIUM TO L E D, BUT USING THE 3000 KELVIN STANDARD, UNLESS, UNLESS UH, SOMEBODY'S GOT A NEIGHBORHOOD OR AN AREA THAT YOU FEEL LIKE NEEDS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THAT'LL BE THE STANDARD AND WE'LL JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
TO THE EXTENT THERE'S ADDITIONAL LIGHTING YOU'D YOU'D WANT IN PLACE, WE'D NEED TO LOOK AT THAT.
THAT'S WHERE THE DESIGN WORK WITH C P S COMES INTO PLACE.
IT'S MORE OF ENGINEERING WORK.
HOW DO WE DO THAT? FOR EXAMPLE, IN D FIVE, WE ADDED THE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.
WE DIDN'T ADD ADDITIONAL POLES.
WE USED THE C P SS EXISTING DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND JUST ADDED THE LIGHT FIXTURE ON THE POLES THAT WERE ALREADY THERE.
THAT CUT THE COST DOWN TREMENDOUSLY.
UM, GOT THE LIGHTING OUT QUICKLY.
UM, WE DON'T METER STREET LIGHTS, SO IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, OF MAKING THAT LIVE.
UM, THEY ALL USE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF ENERGY.
SO ONCE WE'VE GOT THEM UP, WE KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA COST US.
SO I THINK WE WOULD LOOK AT IT MORE FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND THEN IF THERE ARE, UM, I I A PARTICULAR HISTORIC AREA OR HISTORIC BUILDINGS THAT YOU ALL WOULD HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT,
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WE COULD MAYBE LOOK AT THAT AREA SPECIFICALLY, BUT WE'RE NOT PLANNING ADDITIONAL MASTER PLANS AT THIS POINT.UM, DID WE DO THAT IN-HOUSE OR WAS THAT CONTRACTED OUT ON REPLACING THOSE LIGHTS THAT WE'VE DONE ALREADY? WAS THAT, I'M SORRY, THE QUESTION WAS ON THE ACTUAL REPLACEMENT, DID WE DO THAT VIA CONTRACT OR DID WE DO THAT IN-HOUSE AS, OH, I THINK C P S HAD ALMOST ALL OF THAT CONTRACTED OUT, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, I THINK VIRTUALLY ALL OF THAT, THEY'RE HIRING CONTRACTORS TO DO THAT WORK.
AND THE PLAN IS TO GO FORWARD DOING THE SAME THING? YES, SIR.
AND THEN, UM, THE EXISTING LIGHTS, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE EXISTING LIGHTS THAT THEY TAKE DOWN? ARE THEY JUST, ARE WE GETTING A TRADE-IN VALUE OR ARE WE SELLING THEM, OR WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH EXISTING LIGHTS? THERE'S NO TRADE-IN VALUE.
I DON'T, RICHARD, DO YOU WANNA ADDRESS WHERE YEAH, MOSTLY UTILES ARE NOW MOVING THE STRAIGHT TO LEDS SO THERE'S NO TRADE-IN VALUE.
NOW OUR, OUR FOLKS WILL TRY AND, UH, SALVAGE WHATEVER THEY CAN OUT OF THEM.
SO WE HAVE REVERSE LOGISTICS PEOPLE.
SO IF THERE'S METALS THAT CAN BE TAKEN TO SALVAGE SOME OF THAT STUFF, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT RESELLING THEM TO OTHER PLACES.
HAVE WE TRIED AND WE LOOKED OUT THERE, HAVE WE PUT IT OUT THERE SEEING IF THERE IS AN INTEREST IN ALL OF THESE STREETLIGHTS? YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T TRIED THAT PART BECAUSE MOST, MOST EVERY UTILITIES ARE ARE MOVING TO LEDS.
BUT THERE'S SOME UTILITIES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
AND THAT'S, THIS WOULD MAYBE GIVE 'EM A GOOD DEAL ON, ON, UH, LIGHT HEADSS LIGHT FIXTURES.
WE, WE CAN FOLLOW, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH OUR PURCHASING FOLKS TO SEE IF THEY'RE, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF THEY LOOK AT THAT.
UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL ASKED IF THERE WAS SOME SORT OF STAND INDUSTRY STANDARD OUT THERE.
THERE IS, UH, IT'S THE ILLUMINATING ENGINEER SOCIETY, AND APPARENTLY THEY'RE LIKE THE BETTER HOUSEKEEPING STAMP OF APPROVAL FOR MASTER LIGHTING PLANS.
AND THEY TALK ABOUT LIKE, SPACING OF POLES, HEIGHT OF POLES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S STANDARDS FOR TEMPERATURE, WATTAGE AND ALL THAT DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, PROXIMITY TO ROADS, THE TRAFFIC COUNT, AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S GONNA BE PEDESTRIANS OR PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS AND ALL THAT.
AND SO, UM, I, AND THE REASON I KNOW IT IS BECAUSE COUNCILMAN TREVINO TOOK ME TO LUNCH AND HE WOULDN'T SHUT UP ABOUT THE LIGHTING PLAN AND THE LIGHTING THIS AND LIGHTING THAT.
AND SO I I, I WALKED INTO THAT LUNCH HAVING NO IDEA, UH, THAT LIGHTING PLANS ARE A THING.
AND SO I WENT BACK AND I DID SOME RESEARCH.
AND, UH, OTHER MAJOR CITIES HAVE ACTUALLY DONE THIS IN EARNEST AND REALLY DEVELOPED OUT SOME, UM, SOME REALLY GOOD PLANS THAT RESULT IN A LOT OF MONEY SAVED.
AND ONE OF THE AREAS THAT I THOUGHT WAS PARTICULARLY FASCINATING WAS THE, UM, OVERLIGHTING, RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, HAVING POLES TOO CLOSE TOGETHER, RIGHT? AND HAVING MORE LIGHT NECESSARY, UH, WHERE YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT LIGHT FOOTPRINTS, UM, WHERE THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY NEEDED.
RIGHT? AND SO, UM, I, I LIKE THIS MASTER PLAN IDEA, RIGHT? AND SO I'LL CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THE MEDICAL CENTER'S ALREADY TALKING AMONGST THEMSELVES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LIGHTING PLAN.
BECAUSE LIGHTING ISN'T JUST ILLUMINATION, BUT IT ALSO CREATES A SENSE OF PLACE WHEN YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE LOOK OF THE POLE AND ALL THAT, AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU'VE GOT A COBRA HEAD OR IF IT'S JUST STUCK ON SOME MASKED ARM ON A WOOD POLE OR WHATEVER, RIGHT? AND SO THEY'RE TAKING IT REALLY SERIOUS OUT THERE.
MY MY DISTRICT IS, EVERYBODY'S DISTRICT IS VERY SPECIAL.
UH, MY DISTRICT IS SPECIAL IN THAT I'VE GOT, UH, THIS MEDICAL CENTER, WHICH IS NOW VERY CONSCIOUS OF THE FACT THAT LIGHTING IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT, UH, IS IMPORTANT TO THEIR SUCCESS IN THE FUTURE.
BUT TWO, I'M REALLY CLOSE TO CAMP BULLIS WHO HAS MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT THEY'RE ALLERGIC TO LIGHTS.
UH, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD THING, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND SO I'M, I'M WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BE PLAYING FAST AND LOOSE AND JUST ASSUMING THAT WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING JUST BY REPLACING BULBS IN D EIGHT OR WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS SOME PRUDENCE TO ENGAGING IN A, A PLAN, RIGHT? AND REALLY SORT OF ASKING WHY, YOU KNOW, WE PLACE WHAT WE PLACE WHERE WE'RE PLACING IT.
AND SO, UM, I, I WOULD LIKE TOGETHER TO GET WITH YOU AND STAFF AT A LATER DATE AND TALK ABOUT MASTER PLANNING LIGHT, RIGHT? I DON'T WANNA PAY A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER IN D EIGHT.
BUT I DO THINK THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TAKE SORT OF LIKE, UH, COLUMBUS, OHIO HAS A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN.
SO DOES SALT LAKE, UM, AND SO DOES PARIS, FRANCE EVEN.
THEY'VE GOT VARIOUS DIFFERENT MASTER PLANS AROUND THE CITY.
AND SO THE ONE I, THE ONE I GOT TO SORT OF DO A DEEP DIVE, DEEP DIVE INTO WAS COLUMBUS.
AND IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING A LOOK AT THAT,
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UM, I THINK I, I, I WALKED AWAY REALLY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO WITH A CITYWIDE MASTER PLAN.BUT, UM, WILL YOU MEET WITH ME LATER? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, THE, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION TOO IS THAT THE MAYOR MENTIONED HEALTH AS, UH, YOU KNOW, A COMPONENT OF LIGHTING.
UM, YOU KNOW, NIGHTTIME WALKING AND BEING ABLE TO EXERCISE IN PARKS AND, YOU KNOW, BICYCLE AND RUN UP AND DOWN YOUR STREETS IN THE EVENINGS IS NOT UNIMPORTANT.
IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO MOVE AND GETTING THEM TO MOVE ONLY DURING THE DAYLIGHT HOURS.
I THINK WE'RE MISSING A REALLY BIG OPPORTUNITY HERE.
AND SO, UM, I I, I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS OUR MASTER PLAN PROGRESSES, WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW NOT ONLY CAN WE KEEP PEOPLE SAFE, BUT MAKING SURE THAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE JUST AS ATTRACTIVE AT NIGHT AS THEY ARE DURING THE DAY.
AND I WANT TO THANK YOU BEN AND JOHN, C P SS, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, RAVINO, WHO'S KEPT THIS ON THE FOREFRONT AS WELL.
AND ALSO COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ FOR FIGHTING FOR YOUR DISTRICT.
AND IT HAS MADE A TREMENDOUS, UH, DIFFERENCE.
NUMBER ONE, AND IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT WITH WORLD HERITAGE.
UM, AND WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OUR WORLD HERITAGE WORK PLAN, UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS ALREADY THAT OUR STAKEHOLDERS HAVE, OUR NEIGHBORS AND OUR RESIDENTS HAVE TALKED ABOUT IS, UH, THAT IS SOMETHING SPECIAL WHEN YOU DO HAVE, UM, THE DARK SKY IN AND AROUND THE, THE MISSIONS IN PARTICULAR, THOSE LIKE IPALA AND SAN JUAN, BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY RURAL STILL IN NATURE.
SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN CONT WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT SORT OF LEVEL OF AUTHENTICITY IN AND AROUND OUR, OUR, UM, OUR MISSIONS AND IN AND AROUND.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR WORLD HERITAGE AREA AS WELL AS THE RIVER AND THE MISSION REACH IN PARTICULAR TOO.
UM, BECAUSE HAVING THAT DARK SKY IN AND AROUND THE MISSION REACH IS, UH, FOR ONE THING, IT'S, IT KEEPS THAT AUTHENTICITY AROUND THE RIVER.
UM, BUT WE ALSO, IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY, UM, EXPENSIVE MISSION REACH TO LIGHT IF WE WERE TO PUT ALL OF THE LIGHTS IN AND AROUND.
UM, THE MISSION REACH, JUST TALKING ABOUT THE HEALTH ASPECT AS WELL.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE.
AND I KNOW THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY IS TRYING TO FIND THAT BALANCE AS WELL, SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ARE RUNNING AND MANAGING THAT.
I DO HAVE, UM, JUST ON THE R F P WHEN IT COMES TO THE, UM, DOWNTOWN LIGHTING MASTER PLAN, THE ONLY THING I WANNA COMMENT IS THIS AS WE MOVE FORWARD, THAT WE, WE DO HAVE, I GUESS AN, UM, AN OFF RAMP IF YOU WILL, WHEN, OR A PAUSE BUTTON AS WE MOVE FORWARD IF SOMETHING COMES OUT AND MAYBE THE, THE CONSTITUENCIES OR THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING ELSE ABOUT THE LIGHTING PLAN.
BECAUSE THE FIRST THING I THINK OF IS THE L E D LIGHTS THAT WE HAD ON THE RIVER, ON THE TREES THAT WERE WRAPPED.
AND THEN WE HAD TO TAKE THEM ALL DOWN AND PUT THEM BACK AGAIN.
SO THAT'S MY ONLY POINT OF, OF CAUTION AS WE MOVE FORWARD, AS WE HAVE ALL THESE STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS THAT IF WE HAVE AN OPTION OR A, AN OFF RAMP OR OUR, OUR MASTER PLANNERS AS THEY COME FORWARD MM-HMM.
SO THAT WOULD BE MY ONLY COMMENT.
WELL, GREAT COMMENTS AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS AT COUNCIL IN A COUPLE WEEKS.
BEN, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.
[2. A Briefing on the City-wide Legacy Business Registry and World Heritage Area Legacy Business Grant Pilot Program. [Lori Houston, Assistant City Manager; Colleen Swain, Director, World Heritage Office; Shanon Shea Miller, Director, Office of Historic Preservation]
A PRESENTATION BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND WORLD HERITAGE OFFICE ON TWO PROGRAMS DESIGNED TO RECOGNIZE MARKET AS WELL AS SUPPORT AND PROVIDE THE NECESSARY TOOLS AND FUNDING TO PRESERVE OUR LEGACY BUSINESSES, UH, WITHIN THE WORLD HERITAGE SITE AREA.AND OUR MISSIONS, UH, THE LEGACY BUSINESSES WERE IDENTIFIED AS A PRIORITY DURING THE WORLD.
HERITAGE SYMPOSIA HELD FOLLOWING THE DESIGNATION OF THE FIVE MISSIONS AS A WORLD HERITAGE SITE.
AND THEY WERE ALSO A MAJOR TOPIC DURING OUR FIRST EVER INTERNATIONAL LIVING HERITAGE SYMPOSIUM HOSTED BY THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION IN 2017.
SO A LEGACY BUSINESS IS DEFINED AS A BUSINESS THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS AND HAS CONTRIBUTED TO THE HISTORY, CULTURE, AND AUTHENTIC IDENTITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
UH, SHANNON MILLER IS GOING TO START THE PRESENTATION
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AND BRIEFING THIS AFTERNOON ON THE CITYWIDE LEGACY BUSINESS REGISTRY PROGRAM.AND WE'RE ASKING OF COURSE, FOR INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THOSE, IDENTIFYING THOSE LEGACY BUSINESSES.
AND AFTER, UH, SHANNON PRESENTS, THEN COLLEEN SWAIN IS GOING TO PRESENT THE PROPOSED WORLD HERITAGE AREA LEGACY BUSINESS GRANT PILOT PROGRAM.
UM, AND, UH, THIS PROGRAM IS GOING TO BE AVAILABLE SPECIFICALLY TO THE LEGACY BUSINESSES THAT SURROUND, UM, OUR MISSIONS AND BUFFER ZONE.
IT'S A TWO MILE RADIUS AROUND, UM, THE FOUR MISSIONS TO THE SOUTH OF THE ALAMO THAT ARE PART OF WORLD HERITAGE.
AND THAT GRANT PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE MATCHING, UH, FUNDS FOR FACADE IMPROVEMENTS FOR THOSE BUSINESSES AND TO HELP THEM LANDSCAPE AND MAKE IMPROVEMENTS SINCE WE KNOW SO MANY VISITORS WILL BE COMING TO SEE OUR WORLD HERITAGE SITE.
SO FIRST UP WILL BE SHANNON MILLER, OUR HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER, AND THEN COLLEEN SWAIN, WHO HEADS OUR WORLD HERITAGE OFFICE WILL PRESENT ON THAT LEGACY BUSINESS PILOT PROGRAM.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
UM, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT THE LEGACY BUSINESS, UH, REGISTRY PROGRAM, WHICH IS PART OF OUR LARGER, UM, LIVING HERITAGE INITIATIVE.
UM, AND OUR SCOUTS A PROGRAM AT O H P, UM, SCOUTS A DOES ENCOURAGE THE CITIZENS, OUR, OUR CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS TO, UM, EX TO GET OUT AND EXPLORE, UM, SAN ANTONIO, AND THAT WHICH MAKES US SPECIAL AND UNIQUE AND, UM, AND THEN ALSO REALLY TO CELEBRATE THOSE PLACES.
AND A COMPONENT OF THAT, OF COURSE, IS OUR LEGACY BUSINESS.
UM, THE LEGACY BUSINESS REGISTRY PROGRAM REALLY RECOGNIZES THE FACT THAT THESE ARE IMPORTANT HISTORIC ASSETS IN OUR COMMUNITY AND, UM, THAT THESE LEGACY BUSINESSES REALLY REFLECT THE, UM, THE AUTHENTICITY AND THE CULTURE, UM, OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING THEM AND PROMOTING THEM, UM, SO THAT THEY CONTINUE TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
UM, AS CHERYL MENTIONED, THE, THE PROGRAM REALLY CAME OUT OF, OF TWO SOURCES.
UM, FIRST, UH, DURING THE SYM, THE, THE SERIES OF SYMPOSIA HELD FOLLOWING THE WORLD HERITAGE INSCRIPTION, UM, LEGACY BUSINESSES WERE BROUGHT UP AS BEING AN IMPORTANT PART OF, UM, THE CULTURE AND THE AUTHENTICITY IN THE WORLD HERITAGE BUFFER AREA.
SO WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A PRIORITY.
AND, UM, AND THEN WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES AROUND THE COUNTRY AND AROUND THE WORLD.
AND, UH, LEGACY BUSINESS PROGRAMS WERE A MAJOR FOCUS WHEN WE BE, WHEN WE CREATED THE AGENDA FOR OUR LIVING HERITAGE SYMPOSIUM THAT WAS HELD IN SEPTEMBER.
AND SO WE BROUGHT IN PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES AND THEN, UM, ALSO FROM SAN FRANCISCO, WHO HAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL LEGACY BUSINESS REGISTRY PROGRAM.
UH, THERE'S FOCUSED, UM, INITIALLY AND PRIMARILY ON, UM, BARS AND RESTAURANTS, UM, BUT IT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL THERE AS A WAY TO HELP PROMOTE THOSE BUSINESSES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUSTAINABLE.
UM, THERE ARE ALSO OTHER, UM, REALLY NOTABLE EXAMPLES FOR, UM, THERE'S ONE IN BUENOS AREAS THAT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY LOOKING, UM, AT OTHER MODELS AROUND THE WORLD, WORLD TO, TO, TO PERPETUATE THESE BUSINESSES, UM, TO QUALIFY TO BECOME A LEGACY BUSINESS.
A A BUSINESS MUST BE AT LEAST 20 YEARS OLD OR OLDER AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE AUTHENTICITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN SOME WAY.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER CRITERIA THAT ARE AVAILABLE, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A BUSINESS HAS BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY THROUGH SUCCESSIVE GENERATIONS, IF IT IS HOUSED IN A LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A LOCAL LANDMARK.
UM, AND REALLY IF IT PROVIDES A GOOD OR SERVICE OR EVEN TEACHES A CRAFT OR TRADITION THAT IS IMPORTANT TO SAN ANTONIO'S HERITAGE.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, A PINATA MAKER OR A RESTAURANT THAT IS IN AN IMPORTANT CULINARY TRADITION IN OUR CULTURE.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT MAY BE RECOGNIZED AS A LEGACY BUSINESS.
AND IN EXCHANGE FOR BEING RECOGNIZED AS A LEGACY BUSINESS, THOSE BUSINESSES WILL AGREE TO PERPETUATE WHATEVER THEY WERE RECOGNIZED FOR AND, UM, CONTINUE PROVIDING THAT SERVICE AND TO MAINTAIN THE HISTORIC NAME OF THE BUSINESS.
UM, AS THAT IS PART OF WHAT MAKES THEM SPECIAL AND UNIQUE, WE WILL BE SEEKING, UM, NOMINATIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR LEGACY BUSINESSES.
UM, WE'RE STARTING INITIALLY WITH BUSINESSES THAT ARE EVEN MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
SO WE LOOKED AT BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR 75 OR A HUNDRED YEARS AS, UM, KIND OF OUR FIRST FIRST ROUND OF OF BUSINESSES TO BE IDENTIFIED.
AND WE'LL BE WORKING WITH EACH OF YOU TO HIGHLIGHT THE BUSINESSES IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.
UM, THE FIRST LEGACY BUSINESS WAS ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED THIS PAST SATURDAY, UM, AT AN EVENT AT DEL BRAVO RECORDS WITH COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE.
UM, IT WAS A FUN EVENT WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO COLLECT A LOT OF ORAL HISTORIES FROM THE COMMUNITY
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ABOUT GROWING UP IN THE AREA OF, UM, OF DE BRAVO RECORDS AND HIGHWAY 90.AND SO IT WAS A, THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT OF EXCITEMENT AND, UM, I WAS REALLY THRILLED TO SEE HOW PROUD THE OWNERS OF THE FAMILY OF DEL BRAVO RECORDS WAS TO BE RECOGNIZED AS A LEGACY BUSINESS.
UM, THAT THAT RECORD STORE WAS ACTUALLY OPENED IN 1966, AND IT'S BEEN IN THE FAMILY SINCE THAT TIME AND IS CREDITED WITH LAUNCHING MUSIC CAREERS OF PEOPLE LIKE FLACO JIMENEZ.
UM, THEY WERE, THEY WERE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE BEEN, TO HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED, AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A FUN AFTERNOON.
AND THEN, UM, BEING LISTED AS A LEGACY BUSINESS WILL BE A WAY FOR US TO HELP THESE BUSINESSES, UM, PROMOTE AND MARKET THEMSELVES.
UM, THERE WILL BE A WINDOW DECAL THAT'LL BE PROVIDED TO THEM, UM, THAT WILL BE THE BRAND IS, UM, PART OF OUR LARGER SCOUT S A INITIATIVE.
SO THE WINDOW DECALS WILL BE TIED IN WITH THAT ALREADY EXISTING BRAND THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN.
UM, THE INDIVIDUAL DECALS WE ENVISION WILL, WILL RELATE TO WHY THE BUSINESS WAS, WAS RECOGNIZED AS A LEGACY BUSINESS.
SO WE'LL HAVE ONE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOUR BARS AND RESTAURANTS.
WE MIGHT HAVE ANOTHER FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES.
SO THEY WILL HELP TO REFLECT THE LEGACY THAT IS, THAT IS BEING PROTECTED.
AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO WILL BE WORKING WITH THE BUSINESSES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE, ARE SHOWN ON MAPS, BOTH, UH, ELECTRONIC OBVIOUSLY THROUGH, UM, WEBSITES AND SOCIAL MEDIA AND IN THE WORLD HERITAGE AREA THROUGH, UM, COLLEEN'S MOBILE RESPONSIVE WEBSITE.
BUT THEN ALSO WE ENVISION DOING ACTUAL PRINT, UM, MAPS AND FUN LITTLE HANDOUTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT PARTICULARLY FOR TOURISTS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AT WHEN THEY'RE VISITING SAN ANTONIO.
UM, AND THEN FOR BUSINESSES THAT ARE WITHIN THE WORLD HERITAGE BUFFER AREA AND, AND A LITTLE BIT BEYOND, UM, ANOTHER BENEFIT WILL BE, UM, THE PILOT GRANT PROGRAM.
AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO COLLEEN NOW TO EXPLAIN THAT PROGRAM.
UM, SO IF YOU ARE REGISTERED AS A LEGACY BUSINESS, THEN YOU WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR A, UH, PILOT PROGRAM.
YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE WORLD HERITAGE BUFFER ZONE, AND THEN YOU CAN BE WITHIN A TWO MILE RADIUS OF MISSIONS, CONCE, SAN JOSE, SAN JUAN, OR A SPATA.
AND WE ENVISION THAT EACH BUSINESS WOULD RECEIVE A DECAL SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS SLIDE.
THIS IS, UH, A SIMILAR PROGRAM IN VENICE, ITALY, AND THEY COULD PUT THAT IN THEIR, THEIR WINDOW.
SO HERE IS THE WORLD HERITAGE BUFFER ZONE, OVERLAID WITH THE TWO MILE RADIUS FOR EMISSIONS, UH, CONCE, UH, SAN JOSE, SAN JUAN AND ASADA.
WE'VE ALREADY DONE AN INVENTORY OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD QUALIFY.
THESE ARE BUSINESSES SUCH AS LITTLE'S, LITTLE'S BOOTS, UM, WHICH IS ON DIVISION AND FLORES, AND IT'S BEEN OPEN FOR ALMOST 102 YEARS.
UM, THERE'S THE LITTLE RED BARN SHEILA'S IN DOWNTOWN CASA RIO IN DOWNTOWN B AND B SMOKEHOUSE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, UM, DANIELS CAFE AND OTHERS.
SO AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE INSTALLED WIFI AT MISSION CO CONCEPTION, AND WE WANNA CONNECT OUR VISITORS TO OUR RESIDENTS.
AND WE'RE DOING THIS THROUGH THE MOBILE RESPONSIVE WEBSITE THAT SHANNON SPOKE OF.
AND SO YOU CAN, UH, CONNECT TO A RESTAURANT IN THE AREA AND IT'LL HAVE A TRIPADVISOR RATING, AND WE ENVISION ALSO HAVING A LEGACY BUSINESS LOGO ON THAT AS WELL.
SO VISITORS WILL KNOW WHAT BUS, WHAT, WHAT RESIDENTS, WHAT, WHAT BUSINESSES ARE CLOSE BY THAT MAYBE THEY CAN GET A BITE TO EAT.
SO THE PROGRAM CONSISTS OF FIRST IS PRIMARILY A MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.
WE'LL HAVE A UP TO A $10,000 MATCH FOR FACADE IMPROVEMENTS AND UP TO A $10,000 MATCH FOR LANDSCAPING, SIGNAGE OR LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS.
ALSO, AS PART OF THIS, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS HAVE THE BUSINESSES, THEY MUST ATTEND AT LEAST THREE CAPACITY BUILDING CLASSES.
THESE WILL, UH, TAKE PLACE THROUGH, UH, SOUTH SIDE FIRST GAS AND THROUGH LAUNCH, UH, SAN SA.
UM, AND THEN A, UH, ANOTHER ADDITIONAL BONUS IS THAT WE HAVE TALKED TO LISC AND LISC FUND, AND THEY WILL WORK WITH US TO WORK WITH THE BUSINESSES TO, UH, TRY AND IDENTIFY LOW INTEREST LOANS FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAY BE, MAY, MAY BE REQUIRED FOR THE BUSINESS.
SO THE PROCESS IS, UM, IF YOU ARE, WE WILL FOLLOW OUR EXISTING HISTORIC DISTRICT AND DESIGN GUIDELINES FOR THE BUSINESS LOCATION.
UH, OUR, MY OFFICE WILL HAVE A LIAISON FOR THE BUSINESS TO GUIDE THEM THROUGH THE PRO THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND TO MANAGE THE GRANT FUNDING.
THE REVIEW PROCESS WILL BE THROUGH OUR OFFICE OF HISTORIC, UH, PRESERVATION, AND THIS PROGRAM WILL
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USE DESIGN GUIDELINES BASED ON THE LOCATION OF THE BUSINESS.UM, MANY OF THESE BUSINESSES FALL WITHIN THE MISSION HISTORIC DISTRICT OR THE DOWNTOWN, UM, DISTRICT.
SO THEY'LL FOLLOW THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
AND THIS MIRRORS A SIMILAR PROCESS THAT WE USE FOR OTHER PROGRAMS SUCH AS C E P, UM, WHERE THEY REQUIRE SOME SORT OF BUILDING, UH, DESIGN GUIDANCE AND APPROVAL.
THEY WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO, UH, COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE BUILDING STANDARD CITY, STATE, AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS.
WE, WE ALWAYS, UH, WANT TO STRIVE TO MEET A D A REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT'LL BE ONE OF 'EM THAT THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET.
AND THIS IS THE, UH, THE FLOW CHART THAT SHOWS THE PROCESS.
UM, IT, UH, IT SHOWS THAT THEY CAN TAKE THE CLASSES BEFORE AND DURING THE WHOLE PROCESS, AND THEN IT WILL BE ON A REIMBURSEMENT BASIS.
IT'S A ONE-TO-ONE MATCH, AND THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE.
THERE'S, UM, FUNDING IN OUR INNER CITY INCENTIVE FUND FOR THIS PROGRAM, FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
SO THIS PROGRAM, WE MODELED IT AFTER BEST PRACTICES.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, UH, AT ANOTHER SESSION, THERE IS A GRANT PROGRAM, UH, ALREADY, UH, IN, THAT'S BEING USED AS PART OF THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR ENHANCEMENT MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.
WE HAD A WORKING GROUP, SO HEATHER YOST IS HERE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SHE WAS IN THAT GROUP TO HELP US DEVELOP OUR PROGRAM.
THE GRANTS CAN BE LAYERED WITH OPERATION FACELIFT AND ROMERO IS HERE AS WELL TO TALK ABOUT THAT PROGRAM, IF YOU HAVE ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS.
UM, AND THEN THE CAPACITY BUILDING PORTION MODELS, UH, WHAT CENTER CITY DEVELOPMENT AND OPERATIONS DOES WITH THE OPEN, UH, POP-UP SHOP WHERE WE HAVE ACQUIRED BUSINESSES TO ATTEND EDUCATIONAL SESSIONS.
AND THEN THROUGH H L A GAS AND THROUGH LAUNCH SA THERE'LL BE A MENTORSHIP COMPONENT AS WELL.
SO WE HAVE ALREADY BRIEFED, UM, H D R C AND ARTS CULTURE AND HERITAGE, AND THE LAST WEEK WE WENT TO THE ECONOMIC AND WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE TO BRIEF THEM.
AND WE, UH, PLAN TO PROCEED TO COUNCIL, UM, ON FEBRUARY 8TH FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A PILOT, SO IF, UH, WE PROVE TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY IMPLEMENT THIS CITYWIDE.
AND WE'RE HERE, WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION, COLLEEN.
UH, AND SHANNON, UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO, UM, AGAIN, TIP MY HAT.
VERY INNOVATIVE PROGRAM, UH, I KNOW COUNCILWOMAN, UM, GRO HAS BEEN WORKING ON AS WELL.
SO, UM, LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS UTILIZED IN OTHER DISTRICTS AS WELL.
UM, I JUST WANT TO, UH, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND, AND, AND LORI ALSO FOR, FOR SHEPHERDING THIS FORWARD AS WELL, BECAUSE THIS DID JUST COME OUT FROM BIRTH FROM OUR COMMUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT THE GEMS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THEN TO SEE BEST PRACTICES IN SAN FRANCISCO AND IN BUENOS AIRES THAT WE CAN USE HERE AND UTILIZE AGAIN, UH, MAYOR, I THINK WE'RE JUST LEADING THE WAY WHEN IT COMES TO THESE ISSUES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.
SO I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS AND ALSO FOR MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES FOR ASKING THOSE QUESTIONS.
THE OTHER COMMITTEES, UM, AND FINE TUNING THOSE AS WE MOVE FORWARD AS WELL WHEN IT COMES TO A D A THRESHOLDS.
AND ALSO, UM, WE WILL HAVE IN SPECIFICALLY IN THE WORLD HERITAGE AREA, WE WILL HAVE, UM, MISSION, UH, THE MISSION DISTRICT DESIGN GUIDELINES TOO, THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PART OF THAT AS WE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT WAYS TO ENHANCE OUR LEGACY BUSINESSES IN THE WORLD HERITAGE AREA.
I THINK THIS IS A VERY GREAT WAY FOR US AS COUNCIL COLLEAGUES TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE GEMS IN OUR COMMUNITIES THAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT, ESPECIALLY IN, IN OUR DISTRICTS, BUT THAT WE CAN SHARE, UM, TO THE OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY AND A BETTER WAY.
IT, IT REALLY IS JUST A POINT OF PRIDE THAT WE CAN ALL JUST HIGHLIGHT THESE LEGACY BUSINESSES.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO PEOPLE VISITING SAN ANTONIO, OR JUST LOCALS TRYING TO FIND OTHER LOCAL SPOTS IN, UM, OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, THIS IS A GREAT WAY TO DO IT THROUGH THE, A LEGACY BUSINESS PROGRAM.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UM, A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO START IN THE WORLD HERITAGE AREA SINCE WE'RE ALREADY DOING SO MUCH WITH THE WORK PLAN, BUT ALSO ANOTHER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY, UM, AND FOR THIS ECONOMIC MOBILITY AND POTENTIAL TO BE REACHED IN OUR, UM, AREA OF THE WORLD'S HERITAGE AREA.
SO WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THEM AND JUST LET THEM GO FORWARD WITH, UM, WITH YOU ARE WORKING WITH VISIT SAN ANTONIO AS WELL, AND OTHERS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ALL THOSE CONNECTIONS.
THE REASON WHY WE ALSO NEED TO, UM, LOOK AT OTH MODELING IT AFTER OTHER
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GRANT PROGRAMS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY IS BECAUSE WITH OPERATION FACELIFT, IT HAS A LOT OF, A LOT MORE, UM, I GUESS STRINGS ATTACHED TO IT WHERE WE COULD HAVE A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY AND MORE, UM, IMPACT WITH A MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WANTED TO GO AND DO SOMETHING ELSE DIFFERENT FROM THE OPERATION FACELIFT, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN UTILIZING AND HAS BEEN VERY, VERY GOOD.
BUT I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US IN WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR PARTNERS, LIKE, UM, LIFTFUND, LISC AND OTHERS.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER WAY THAT WE ARE SETTING A BAR FORWARD FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS, UM, BUT IN, UM, NATIONWIDE TOO.
SO I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR WORKING ON THIS, AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANNA BE INVOLVED IN THIS, AND THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR US TO HIGHLIGHT THE AUTHENTICITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING MORE CONVERSATIONS, BUT MOVING THIS TO A SESSION AS WELL.
COUNCILMAN VIGRAN, COUNCILMAN COURAGE.
UH, I DO THINK IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.
I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THIS WOULD BE ALL VOLUNTARY FOR BUSINESSES IN THESE AREAS.
NOW, UH, I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORIC DESIGNATIONS, SOMETIMES OTHER PEOPLE CAN SAY, CAN WE MAKE THIS A HISTORIC AREA? CAN OTHER PEOPLE SUGGEST THAT A CERTAIN BUSINESS BECOME PART OF THIS PROGRAM? YES, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, WE ARE INVITING PEOPLE TO NOMINATE BUSINESSES TO BECOME A LEGACY BUSINESS, BUT OF COURSE, UM, THE BUSINESS WOULD HAVE TO WANT TO BECOME A LEGACY BUSINESS, RIGHT? UM, SO IT'S, IT, IT ULTIMATELY IS UP TO THE BUSINESS, BUT WE REALLY WANT THE COMMUNITY TO BE A PART OF THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT, WHAT BUSINESSES SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS LEGACY BUSINESSES.
WHAT IS THE LONG-TERM COMMITMENT OF A BUSINESS TO THIS PROGRAM? FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT FIND A BUSINESS THAT REALLY WANTS TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM, UH, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, SIX, SEVEN YEARS DOWN THE LINE, OWNERSHIP DIES.
NEW PEOPLE TAKE OVER AND THEY SAY, WE DON'T WANT THIS.
WE'RE GONNA SELL IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE.
THEY MAY HAVE A DIFFERENT IDEA.
DOES THE BUSINESS HAVE A CERTAIN COMMITMENT TO THE PROGRAM OVER A PERIOD OF TIME? UM, IT'S NOT A, IT IS NOT A DEFINED PERIOD OF TIME.
I MEAN, THE, THE, THE DESIRE IS THAT THE BUSINESS WOULD AGREE TO CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE WHATEVER IT IS THAT MADE THEM ELIGIBLE TO BE A LEGACY BUSINESS.
AND AT WHATEVER TIME THEY DECIDE TO NOT DO THAT ANYMORE, THEN THEY WOULD JUST NOT BE CONSIDERED A LEGACY BUSINESS ANYMORE.
YOU BOTH FOR THE, UH, THANK YOU PRESENTATION.
THAT IS IT, COUNCILMAN S YOU'RE TOO LATE.
I, I KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE
SO IT'S 10 STAY OPEN, THAT THEY STAY AUTHENTIC, THAT THEY CAN, DON'T CHANGE THE NAME AND ALL THAT.
AND IF THEY DON'T MEET THOSE CONDITIONS, THEY LIKE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GO SUE BUSINESSES TO COLLECT $10,000 BACK FROM 'EM OR THERE.
NOW THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
THERE'S THE FIRST COMPONENT IS IF A BUSINESS WOULD LIKE TO BE A LEGACY BUSINESS.
SO IF THEY WANNA BE ON THE REGISTRY TO PARTICIPATE AS A LEGACY BUSINESS, THAT THAT IS UP TO THEM.
IF THEY CHOOSE TO DO THAT AND THEN THEY ARE WITHIN THE WORLD HERITAGE AREA OR WITHIN TWO MILES OF ONE OF THE, THE FOUR SOUTHERN MISSIONS, THEN THEY CAN APPLY FOR THE MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.
THAT MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM HAS A TIME LIMIT.
I HAVE, I'M LOOKING AT MY ATTORNEY HERE, JOSEPH
UM, AND, AND THEN ONCE THAT TIME LIMIT, IF THEY DON'T FULFILL THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN, UM, ASK FOR THE MONEY BACK.
BUT ONCE THEY FULFILL THE TIME LIMIT, THEN THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE, THEY'RE THERE WITH THE BUILDING.
SO I MEAN, IS THE IDEA TO PAY THE $10,000 OR UP TO $10,000 TO THE OWNER OF THE BUSINESS OR IS THAT THEY HAVE TO TURN IN THE EXPENSES AND WE COVER THOSE, UH, TO THE CONTRACTOR? LET'S SAY IT'S A MATCHING GRANT PROGRAM.
SO THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN ARCHITECT AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN.
WE HAVE TO APPROVE THAT PLAN THAT GOES THROUGH THE H D R C PROCESS.
AND THEN WHAT WE DO IS THERE IS, UH, AND IT GETS REIMBURSED.
SO SAY THEY PUT IN THE AWNING AND THEN THAT'S THE FIRST ITEM, THEN THEY CAN GET REIMBURSED FOR THE I AWNING UP AND IT'S UP TO 10,000.
BUT WE AGREE TO WHAT THOSE ITEMS ARE IN, IN THE BEGINNING.
THESE ARE REIMBURSEMENTS FOR SUNK COSTS.
THEY'RE NOT PREPAYMENTS FOR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR PLAN TO BUILD, GIVE US 10, 10,000 AND WE'LL GO DO IT.
IT, IT ACTUALLY, IT WORKS EXACTLY LIKE THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR PLAN WHERE IT'S A, IT'S A MATCHING ONE-TO-ONE AND WE AGREE TO WHAT ARE THE,
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THE IMPROVEMENTS THEY'VE ACTUALLY CHANGED THERE.SO IT'S NO LONGER ONE-TO-ONE, IT'S NOW TWO TO ONE.
AND SO UNDER WHAT'S, I MEAN, UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES WOULD WE, WOULD WE ASK FOR THE MONEY BACK? DO YOU WANNA, IF THEY DON'T COMPLETE THE WORK, IF IT IS SUBSTANDARD, UM, IF, UM, IF THERE IS, UH, THOSE WOULD BE THE INSTANCES.
HAVE WE EVER HAD TO DO THAT FOR THE NORTHEAST CORRIDOR? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COUNCILMAN PIA.
ALRIGHT, UM, THAT IS IT FOR OUR B SESSION PRESENTATION.
[Executive Session]
3:25 PM ON THE 17TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2018.PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY CHAPTER 5 5 1 IN THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE V T C S, TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS A NEW EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE LEASE EXCHANGE OR VALUE OF REAL ESTATE PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY LITIGATION RELATED TO THE OPIOID MANUFACTURERS, DISTRIBUTORS AND PR PROMOTERS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.
CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY DELIBERATE ISSUES RELATED TO THE SAN ANTONIO PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071.
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