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          IF EVERYONE WILL PLEASE BE SEATED. 
          WE'RE READY TO BEGIN. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER TINO HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          MAYOR NUREMBERG. 
          SURE. 
          MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. 
          ANTONIO COLLEGE. 
          UH, PROFESSOR SMITH'S CLASS IS HERE TO OBSERVE, UH, THE VERY PROFESSIONAL DELIBERATIONS THAT WE ALWAYS SEEM TO HAVE IN THIS ROOM. 
          SO, WELCOME. 
          THE FLOOR IS YOURS, CHERYL. 
          THANK YOU, 
          [1. 18-1696 
A Briefing on the Public Safety Radio System Project. [Ben Gorzell, Chief Financial Officer; Erik Walsh, Deputy City Manager; Andy Segovia, City Attorney]]
MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          SO, TODAY'S, UH, B SESSION INCLUDES A PRESENTATION ON THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE PROCUREMENT FOR REPLACEMENT PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM. 
          AND OUR CURRENT RADIO SYSTEM HAS BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 2004 AND PROVIDES PUBLIC SAFETY TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BUT ALSO FOR BEXAR COUNTY AND THE SURROUNDING JURISDICTIONS. 
          UH, OF COURSE, THE RADIO SYSTEM IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND CRITICAL SOURCE OF COMMUNICATION, UH, TO DISPATCH ALL POLICE AND FIRE EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE IN THE CITY, AS WELL AS IN THE COUNTY. 
          AND BOTH OF OUR CHIEFS ARE HERE TODAY, UH, AS WELL, BOTH CHIEF HOOD AND CHIEF MCMANUS. 
          UH, BECAUSE THE EXISTING SYSTEM IS APPROACHING END OF LIFE, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS WAS INITIATED IN 2015. 
          YOU KNOW, THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING AT THIS, UH, FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS, A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS. 
          AND A REP QUEST FOR PROPOSAL WAS RELEASED ONE YEAR AGO IN JANUARY OF 2016. 
          UH, PROPOSALS WERE RECEIVED BY DAILY WELLS WITH HARRIS CORPORATION AS A MANUFACTURER AND WITH, UH, SECOND PROPOSAL FROM CENTRAL ELECTRIC WITH MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS AS THEIR MANUFACTURER. 
          THERE WAS AN EXTENSIVE EVALUATION PROCESS THAT ERIC WALSH IS GOING TO DESCRIBE IN MORE DETAIL THIS AFTERNOON TO ENSURE THAT ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THIS TIME IN THIS PROCUREMENT, WE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE C P S ENERGY SO THAT WE ARE ALL INTERCONNECTED, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AS WELL AS C P SS ENERGY IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS. 
          AND WE HAVE ALIGNED OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THIS PROCESS. 
          THE FINAL PROPOSALS WERE REVIEWED AND SCORED BY A TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND THE EXECUTIVE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND STAFF IS GOING TO PRESENT, UH, ON THE CURRENT REGIONAL SYSTEM, THE INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH BEXAR COUNTY THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT, UM, AS WELL AS C P S ENERGY, THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS EVALUATION, AS WELL AS THE KEY BUSINESS TERMS. SO, UH, WE WILL BEGIN THAT PRESENTATION. 
          THIS IS THE ONLY ITEM ON THE AGENDA THIS AFTERNOON SO THAT WE CAN GIVE AMPLE TIME, UH, TO THE CONVERSATION AMONG THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. 
          ERIC WALSH HAS BEEN THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT, UH, WORKING WITH ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS. 
          HE'S DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB. 
          IT'S ALSO HIS BIRTHDAY TODAY, SO I'M GONNA SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ERIC . 
          WE WON'T, WE WON'T TALK ABOUT AGE, BUT, UH, ANYWAY, UH, ERIC IS HERE, HAS DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON THIS PROJECT, AND SO WE'LL BEGIN WITH HIS TECHNICAL PRESENTATION THIS AFTERNOON. 
          ERIC. 
          THANKS, CHERYL. 
          I'M STILL IN MY FORTIES. 
          SO HANGING ON, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, OVER 620 CITY EMPLOYEES THAT PARTICIPATED AT SOME POINT, UH, IN THIS, UH, SOLICITATION. 
          UH, WE'RE EXCITED TO PRESENT TO YOU OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY. 
          SO THERE'S THREE MAIN, THERE'S FIVE MAIN AREAS OF THE PRESENTATION. 
          THE FIRST, UH, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE REGIONAL SYSTEM APPROACH. 
          UH, SECONDLY, UH, I'LL COVER SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT THAT CHERYL MENTIONED, UM, THAT WE HAVE, UM, THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED WITH, UH, BEXAR COUNTY AND, 
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AND C P S, OUR THIRD AREA OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. 
          BEN WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS, UH, PRESENTATIONS, UH, WITH THE COUNCIL, UH, OVER THE, OVER THE TERM OF THE SOLICITATION. 
          SO, UH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD REFRESHER FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND, UH, UM, THE, UH, THE PROCESS, UH, THAT WE WENT THROUGH, UH, THE FOURTH AREA. 
          I'LL WALK THROUGH THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND, UH, THE DIFFERENT ASPECTS. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, AS CHERYL MENTIONED, UH, THE, UH, REVIEW OF THE KEY BUSINESS TERMS IN THE PROPOSED CONTRACT. 
          SO THE REGIONAL SYSTEM, UM, OUR, OUR CURRENT RADIO SYSTEM, AS CHERYL MENTIONED, UH, WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2004. 
          UM, UH, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY PARTNERED ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT SYSTEM AND CURRENTLY, UH, BOTH JOINTLY OPERATE ON THAT SYSTEM. 
          THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 11,000 USERS ON THAT SYSTEM RIGHT NOW, UH, OF THE 11,000, UM, UH, 6,100, A LITTLE OVER 6,100. 
          OUR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO USERS. 
          UM, WE ACCOUNT FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT 70% OF THE TOTAL TALK TIME AS MEASURED ON THAT SYSTEM. 
          THERE ARE 56 OTHER EXTERNAL AGENCIES THAT ALSO OPERATE UNDER THAT SYSTEM. 
          SCHOOL DISTRICTS, U T SS A, UH, SMALLER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE, ARE WITHIN BEXAR COUNTY AND AND ARE SURROUNDED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE ALL OPERATE UNDER THE SAME SYSTEM. 
          UM, OUR CURRENT RADIO SYSTEM HAS, UH, ENJOYED A SYSTEM AVAILABILITY OF 99.9% UP, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF, UM, THIS CONTRACT. 
          AND SO WE'VE BEEN VERY FORTUNATE, UH, TO HAVE A VERY RELIABLE SYSTEM. 
          UM, I'LL SAY IT A COUPLE OF TIMES THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION. 
          UH, THE RADIO IS, UM, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE OLDEST TECHNOLOGIES THAT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL UTILIZED, BUT IT IS CERTAINLY, UH, ONE OF THE, UM, MOST RELIED UPON TECHNOLOGY, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION THAT, UH, MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES FIND THEMSELVES IN. 
          UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT TO MAINTAIN OUR EXISTING SYSTEM, UH, THROUGH 2021 AND THEN, UH, FOR A PERIOD OF SIX MONTHS BEYOND THE TRANSITION TO A NEW SYSTEM. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF OUR CURRENT RADIO SYSTEM. 
          UH, THE CURRENT C P S SYSTEM, AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF FOLKS HERE FROM C P S TODAY, UH, WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2002, UH, AND EXPANDED IN 2005. 
          THE, THE C P S SYSTEM, UM, UM, ACTUALLY PROVIDES RADIO SERVICE FOR SAWS. 
          AND SO, UM, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF, UM, OF, UM, NEARLY 4,500 USERS ON THAT COMBINED SYSTEM, UM, AND THE SUPPORT FOR THAT SYSTEM ENDS IN 2018. 
          SO, AS BEN, BEN WILL TALK ABOUT THE TIMELINE HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, AS WE BEGAN, UH, THINKING THROUGH THE TIMELINE TO REPLACE THIS SYSTEM, UM, WE REACHED OUT TO C P S, UM, KNOWING THE POSITION THAT THEY WERE IN AND LIKELY HAVING TO, UH, GO THROUGH A SIMILAR SOLICITATION PROCESS AND THE EXPENSE OF A, OF A, OF A SYSTEM REPLACEMENT. 
          AND, AND BEN, BEN WILL COVER, UH, THE THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WE HAD EARLY ON AND THE OPTIONS WE LAID OUT IN THE R F P. 
          SO THE, THE BENEFITS OF A REGIONAL SYSTEM ARE, ARE NUMEROUS. 
          UM, UH, THE ENHANCED COVERAGE FOR, UH, ENTITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED AND ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE SYSTEM, UM, BOTH IN TERMS OF, UH, COVERAGE OUTSIDE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY COVER AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, TO THE CITY COVERAGE INSIDE, UH, BUILDINGS, UM, INTEROPERABILITY. 
          UM, AND THIS MEANS TWO THINGS TO US. 
          UH, FIRST, IT MEANS THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ALL COMMUNICATE USING THE SAME SYSTEM. 
          UM, THAT'S, THAT'S CRITICAL. 
          UM, AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, HOW THAT CAME ABOUT, UH, FROM A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT THE ABILITY TO, UH, CROSS JURISDICTIONALLY COMMUNICATE, WHETHER YOU'RE A FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDING TO A BRUSH FIRE IN THE COUNTY AND COORDINATING WITH ESDS OR A POLICE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENS TO BE ON THE BORDER OF THE CITY AND THE COUNTY OR A SMALLER AGENCY. 
          THOSE THINGS ARE, THOSE THINGS ARE CRITICAL AND INTEROPERABILITY. 
          UM, AND THE USE OF A P 25 COMPLIANCE SYSTEM, UM, GIVES US THAT. 
          UH, THIRDLY, UH, SAFETY. 
          UH, THERE IS A, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE LAID OUT, UH, AND SAID THAT WE WOULD CONTRACT FOR, UM, UH, REQUIRED THAT WE HAVE ENHANCED RADIO COVERAGE, BOTH INSIDE THE BUILDINGS AND OUTSIDE, OVER AND ABOVE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, MANY A TIMES, UM, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL, UM, COULD FIND THEMSELVES INSIDE A BUILDING AND NOT HAVE THE ADEQUATE COVERAGE. 
          AND SO ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAD IN THE R F P WAS THAT WE HAD ENHANCED COVERAGE, UH, INSIDE THE, UH, BUILDING PENETRATION. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE RELIABLE SYSTEM ALSO HELPS IMPROVE, UH, THE, OUR ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE, UH, BETWEEN EACH OTHER, 
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WHETHER YOU'RE A FIREFIGHTER, UM, ON A SCENE OF A LARGE A FIRE AND C P S HAPPENS TO BE CALLED OUT BECAUSE THERE'S A DISCONNECT OF GAS UTILITIES OR POWER LINES. 
          AGAIN, THE, THE, UH, THE, THE SENSE THAT WE HAVE ALL OF THESE, UH, EMPLOYEES THAT ARE ON THE, A SIMILAR, ON THE SAME SYSTEM, UM, AND BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, UM, IT TAKES US FAR AND ABOVE, UH, WHAT WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IN TERM OF, IN TERMS OF EFFICIENCIES, YOU KNOW, THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE THAT, UM, THAT A REGIONAL SYSTEM GIVES, REALLY THE THREE MAIN PARTIES, UH, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND C P SS IS, UH, SAVINGS FROM HAVING TO, UM, ALL INVEST SEPARATELY IN A RADIO SYSTEM. 
          UM, THERE IS, UH, UM, FROM A, FROM A TAXPAYER STANDPOINT OR A RATE PAYER STANDPOINT, OR IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE A TAXPAYER AND A RATE PAYER, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO, UM, PAY FOR THREE DIFFERENT SYSTEMS ALL IN THE SAME AREA. 
          SO WE THINK THAT THERE'S CERTAINLY A LOT OF COST EFFICIENCIES BASED ON ESTIMATES THAT WE, WE'VE GATHERED, UH, AND THAT THE INFORMATION WE RECEIVE FROM THE COUNTY AND C P S, UH, WE FEEL THAT WE ARE COLLECTIVELY SAVING ALL THREE OF US BETWEEN 48 AND $50 MILLION, UH, BY JOINTLY PURCHASING THIS SYSTEM. 
          SO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UM, THAT, UH, WAS APPROVED BY BEXAR COUNTY ON JANUARY 11TH AND, UH, BY THE C P S UH, ENERGY BOARD LAST MONDAY, UM, REALLY LAYS OUT HOW WE WILL ALL JOINTLY WORK, UM, AND, UH, PARTNER TOGETHER ON THE DEPLOYMENT, THE MANAGEMENT AND DEPLOYMENT OF A SYSTEM, AND THEN THE ONGOING SUPPORT AND, UM, A TECHNICAL, UH, OVERSIGHT OVER THE SYSTEM OVER THE NEXT 15 YEARS. 
          AND BEGINNING LAST SUMMER, UH, WE BEGAN, YOU KNOW, IN THE MIDST OF THIS SOLICITATION PROCESS AS WE WERE D AS WE WERE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY, UH, THE, AND C P SS, WE ALSO BEGAN WORKING PARALLEL ON AN INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT THAT WOULD GIVE US ALL THREE ENTITIES, REALLY AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW WE'LL WORK TOGETHER. 
          UH, WE HAD A, UH, BASELINE BECAUSE WE CURRENTLY HAVE AN I L A WITH THE COUNTY ON THE EXISTING RADIO SYSTEM, BUT, BUT BRINGING IN C P S, UH, REALLY HELPED KIND OF ADD A THIRD DIMENSION AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ALL, UH, HAVING THAT SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THAT I L A WAS REALLY TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UH, ONE, I MENTIONED THE, TO GOVERN THE DEPLOYMENT AND ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT OF THE RADIO SYSTEM, BUT ALSO TO ESTABLISH THE OWNERSHIP. 
          AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND. 
          WE ESTABLISHED THROUGH THE I L A A GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE, UM, AND AGREED TO PROCEDURES IN THE I L A ON HOW WE WILL ALL JOINTLY WORK TOGETHER. 
          UM, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UH, IS MADE UP OF 12 MEMBERS, UH, SEVEN MEMBERS FROM THE CITY, FOUR FROM THE COUNTY, AND ONE FROM THE C P S. 
          AND THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UH, WILL PROVIDE THE EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP, UH, TO OVERSEE AND DIRECT THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE SYSTEM AND SUPPORT. 
          UM, THE GROUP UNDER THE I L A HAS THE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THE SYSTEM BENEFITS ALL ENTITIES. 
          UM, AND I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, UM, THERE ARE 56 CURRENTLY, UH, EXTERNAL AGENCIES ON THE EXISTING SYSTEM. 
          UH, WE KNOW THAT, UM, AFTER C P SS, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY GO LIVE, THIS IS THE SYSTEM THAT WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO, UH, THOSE AGENCIES. 
          AND SO WE WANNA BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT STRUCTURE IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, MANAGE THAT. 
          UH, THE SECOND, UM, AND MORE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THE GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE IS THE JOINT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. 
          AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A JOINT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE IN THE EXISTING, UH, INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          AND REALLY THAT'S THE TECHNICAL GROUP THAT OVERSEES THE SYSTEM'S PERFORMANCE, THE COMPLIANCE WITH CONTRACTUAL REQUIREMENTS FROM THE VENDOR, UH, ONGOING TECHNICAL OVERSIGHT ONCE THE SYSTEM GOES LIVE, THAT THAT COMMITTEE IS MADE UP OF NINE MEMBERS, UH, FOUR FROM THE CITY, TWO FROM THE COUNTY, AND THREE FROM C P S. 
          UH, THE I L A, UH, CLEARLY, UH, OUTLINES THAT, UH, THE CITY AS THE LARGEST UTILIZER OF THE SYSTEM WILL TAKE THE PRIMARY LEAD ON OVERSEEING THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM THAT IS CLEARLY DENOTED AND OUTLINED IN THE I L A. 
          AND THAT WILL BE OUR RESPONSIBILITY, UH, GOING FORWARD, UH, INTO A NEW RADIO SYSTEM. 
          THE OWNERSHIP CONTRIBUTION THAT, UH, WAS NEGOTIATED, UH, IN THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT WAS ORIGINALLY SPLIT BASED ON THE PROJECTED USERS OF THE NEW SYSTEM. 
          REMEMBER, WE HAVE THE CITY AND THE COUNTY. 
          WE, WE, WE, WE HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA WHAT THE SPLIT IS IN TERMS OF USERS AND TALK TIME, BUT WE'RE INTRODUCING A THIRD PARTY INTO A C P S WITH 4,500 USERS WHEN YOU INCLUDE SAWS. 
          SO, UH, WE'VE NEGOTIATED, UM, A SPLIT, UH, CONTRIBUTION OF 56% CITY, 22%, 
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UH, COUNTY, AND 22% C P SS FOR COMPARISON PURPOSES. 
          THE EXISTING SYSTEM THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2004, UH, WAS 80% CITY AND 20%, UH, COUNTY. 
          I'M GONNA GET, UH, LATER ON WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PRICING, UM, I'LL TALK AGAIN ABOUT HOW THE 56, 22 AND 22% APPLY TO THE PROPOSALS THAT WE RECEIVED. 
          WITH THAT, BEN IS GONNA KINDA WALK YOU THROUGH THE TIMELINE OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AND THE DUE DILIGENCE REQUIREMENTS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, AS ERIC SAID. 
          ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, I'LL JUST GONNA BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT WE UTILIZE FOR THIS SOLICITATION, BUT ALSO GIVE YOU, UM, SOME OF THE TIMELINE AND THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND MANY OTHERS THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS PROCESS WENT THROUGH. 
          SO STARTING WITH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT KIND OF A SOLICITATION FOR US. 
          UH, WE ENDED UP DEVELOPING A MULTIPLE STEP PROCESS TO ADDRESS THE NEED TO MAINTAIN SOME OF THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF SOME OF THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE, THAT ARE PART OF OUR RADIO SYSTEM. 
          SO, GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS IS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM, WE DIDN'T WANT TO NECESSARILY MAKE THOSE SPECIFICATIONS AVAILABLE TO ANYONE. 
          UH, OUR TYPICAL PROCESS WOULD BE THAT WE WOULD DEVELOP AN R F P WITH SPECS. 
          WE WOULD POST THAT ON OUR WEBSITE, AND ANYBODY COULD DOWNLOAD THOSE. 
          SO IN THIS CASE, WHAT WE DEVELOPED WAS A MULTIPLE STEP PROCESS THAT IT INCLUDED. 
          UH, STEP ONE WAS A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS, AND IT WAS REALLY MEANT TO ENSURE THAT ANYBODY THAT WAS SEEKING THE R F P WITH THOSE DETAILED SPECS WAS IN THE RADIO SYSTEM BUSINESS, THAT IT WASN'T JUST, UH, ANYONE ASKING FOR THAT. 
          AND AS PART OF THAT, WE WERE GONNA BE ASKING THEM TO SIGN A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. 
          YOU CAN GET THE R F P, YOU CAN GET ALL THE SPECIFICATIONS, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO SIGN A NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT. 
          AS WE DID THE R F Q, WE GOT FIVE RESPONSES. 
          ONE OF THOSE RESPONSES WAS DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE. 
          IT WAS A CONSULTING FIRM THAT HAD NOT PARTNERED WITH ANY MANUFACTURER, ANYONE IN THE, IN THE RADIO SYSTEM BUSINESS. 
          SO THEY WERE DEEMED, UH, NON-RESPONSIVE. 
          THE REMAINING FOUR FIRMS DID, DID SIGN THE NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT AND DID GET THE R F P. 
          THOSE INCLUDED AIRBUS DAILY, WELLS, MOTOROLA, AND HARRIS. 
          UM, ADDING TO SOME OF THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS R F P WAS THE FACT THAT WE HAD SOME ALTERNATIVE ALTERNATES, UH, INCLUDED WITH THIS R F P, IT INCLUDED, UM, AN OPTION OF LOOKING AT EXTENDING OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, EXTENDING THE LIFE OF OUR CURRENT RADIO SYSTEM, OR REPLACING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO ADDED IN AN OPTION. 
          UH, ERIC MENTIONED THE FACT THAT WE BROUGHT C P S IN AS PART OF THIS DISCUSSION OF LOOKING AT UNDER THE REPLACEMENT OPTION, UM, HAVING THE ABILITY TO INCLUDE C P S ENERGY AS PART OF THIS RADIO SYSTEM. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME ADDITIONS TO THE R F P OVERALL. 
          THE NEXT SLIDE JUST GOES OVER SOME OF THE PROCUREMENT ESSENTIALS, AND REALLY, ERIC'S GONNA GO INTO THESE IN MORE DETAIL, BUT SOME, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE KEY ELEMENTS INCLUDED. 
          LOOKING AT THE OPERATIONAL IMPACT, WHAT TIME, ADDITIONAL FUNCTIONALITY WE WOULD GET FROM A NEW RADIO SYSTEM, THE LONGEVITY OF ANYTHING WE WERE PURCHASING. 
          UH, THE RELIABILITY WAS OBVIOUSLY GONNA BE A KEY FEATURE GOING IN, UH, EMERGING TECHNOLOGY, REALLY TRYING TO LOOK AT, UM, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EXTENDING THE CURRENT SYSTEM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ON THE HORIZON THAT WAS GONNA BE KIND OF A GAME CHANGER IN THIS SPACE THAT MIGHT LEAD US TOWARDS WANTING TO EXTEND THE CURRENT LIFE OF OUR SYSTEM VERSUS REPLACING, UH, A TRANSITION PLAN, MOVING FROM OUR CURRENT, UH, E DAC SYSTEM OVER TO A NEW P 25 SYSTEM. 
          WHAT DID THAT LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF MIGRATION, UH, COST, AND THEN HOW WE COULD LEVERAGE, UH, FUTURE TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED, ERIC WILL GO INTO, THROUGH THIS IN MUCH MORE DETAIL AS HE GOES THROUGH THE EVALUATION PHASE. 
          IN TERMS OF THE TIMELINE, I'LL HAVE TO TAKE YOU BACK IN TIME HERE A LITTLE BIT. 
          UM, WE DIDN'T PUT ALL OF THE BRIEFINGS AND DATES ON HERE. 
          THERE WERE A NUMBER OF, UH, BRIEFINGS AND UPDATES THAT WERE PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE, UM, TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          REALLY JUST TRIED TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THE KEY DATES, UM, AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS. 
          SO, AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE DID ISSUE THE R F Q BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2015. 
          IT WAS OUT FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. 
          AGAIN, IT WAS JUST MEANT TO QUALIFY FIRMS THAT WERE ACTUALLY WORKING WITHIN THIS SPACE SO THEY COULD GET THE R F P SIGNED. 
          THE NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT THAT TOOK ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO. 
          WE ACTUALLY RELEASED THE R F P IN JANUARY OF 2016, AND IT WAS OUT FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS. 
          UM, THIS IS A BIG COMPLICATED, UM, SOLICITATION WITH A LOT OF SPECIFICATIONS, AND I'VE GOT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT IN A MINUTE. 
          BUT WE NEEDED TO GIVE THE VENDORS AND PROPOSERS ENOUGH TIME TO REALLY PUT THEIR PROPOSALS TOGETHER, SO THEY WERE GIVEN UNTIL JUNE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          UH, WE DID RECEIVE RESPONSES IN EARLY JUNE, AND THEN WE PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO COUNSEL IN LATE JUNE JUST TO GIVE THEM AN UPDATE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAD RECEIVED AND HOW WE WERE GOING TO BE PROCEEDING FORWARD 
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WITH THE EVALUATION OF THE, UM, RESPONSES THAT WE DID GET STARTING IN THE SUMMER. 
          AND REALLY GOING THROUGH THE FALL OF 2016, THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SPENT A LOT OF TIME REALLY FOCUSING ON THE SECOND OPTION OR THE SECOND ALTERNATIVE, WHICH WAS THE EXTENSION OF THE CURRENT SYSTEM. 
          WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WERE WE GOING TO PURSUE THAT OPTION AND REALLY LOOK AT INVESTING DOLLARS IN OUR CURRENT SYSTEM, UM, AND EXTENDING THE LIFE, OR DID THAT NOT MAKE, UH, COST BENEFIT SENSE FOR US? AND WE SHOULD MOVE OVER TO EVALUATING, UH, AND MOVING TOWARDS A FULL SYSTEM REPLACEMENT. 
          SO THEY SPENT, UH, THE GOOD PART OF THE SUMMER AND THE FALL GOING THROUGH THAT INFORMATION. 
          THEY PROVIDED FEEDBACK TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE ON, UH, WHAT THEY SAW IN THE PROPOSALS AND WHAT THEY THOUGHT, UM, EITHER THE PROS OR CONS OF EXTENDING THE SYSTEM WERE. 
          AND ULTIMATELY, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE CONSIDERED ALL OF THAT AND RECOMMENDED THAT WE PURSUE ALTERNATIVE ONE, WHICH IS A COMPLETE REPLACEMENT OF OUR CURRENT SYSTEM. 
          UH, WE BRIEFED THE CITY COUNCIL ON THAT IN DECEMBER OF 2016 ON THAT RECOMMENDATION, AND PROVIDED THE UPDATE THAT WE WERE GONNA BE MOVING FORWARD WITH AN EVALUATION TO LOOK AT REPLACING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM BEGINNING. 
          THAT PROCESS STARTED IN EARLY 2017. 
          UH, SOME OF THAT EARLY WORK INCLUDED. 
          WE HAD ENGAGED SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE TO, UM, CONDUCT SOME TESTING ON SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT INCLUDED BOTH LOOKING AT, UH, BOTH VENDORS, UH, PRODUCTS TO SEE AND VERIFY THAT THEY MET THE MILITARY SPECIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAD INDICATED THEY DID. 
          UM, AND ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, SOME SPECIFIC TESTING FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, THEY HAD SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT THEY WANTED TO, TO TEST, SO WE ASKED SOUTHWEST RESEARCH TO DO THAT FOR US. 
          THERE WERE SITE VISITS CONDUCTED IN MARCH OF 2017. 
          THERE WAS A SUBGROUP OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE THAT WENT TO, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT SITES, TWO UH, SITES FOR HARRIS, WHICH WERE MIAMI AND LOS ANGELES, TWO SITES FOR MOTOROLA, WHICH WERE LAS VEGAS AND HOUSTON. 
          AND THAT WAS REALLY MEANT TO GO, UH, MEET WITH CITIES, COUNTIES, UH, ENTITIES THAT WERE RUNNING THESE SYSTEMS AND JUST TALK TO THEM DIRECTLY AND GET FEEDBACK FROM THEM. 
          SO THAT WAS PART OF THAT, UH, PURPOSE OF THAT. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, THAT SUBGROUP CAME BACK AND BRIEFED THE ENTIRE VALUATION COMMITTEE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY SAW AND WHAT THEY HEARD IN TERMS OF VENDOR DEMOS. 
          THOSE OCCURRED IN JUNE. 
          UH, VENDOR DEMOS HAPPEN ALONG WITH ORAL PRESENTATIONS. 
          BOTH VENDORS WERE GIVEN THREE DAYS TO DO THAT. 
          SO THERE WERE, UH, LENGTHY ORAL PRESENTATIONS AND THEN DEMONSTRATIONS GOING ON OVER THAT THREE DAY PERIOD. 
          DURING THOSE DEMOS, WE ALSO HAD 708 SURVEYS FILLED OUT BY USERS OF THE SYSTEM. 
          SO USERS WERE ASKED TO COME IN, LOOK AT THE EQUIPMENT, UM, USE THE EQUIPMENT AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK THROUGH THESE SURVEYS. 
          THAT WAS THEN ALSO PRESENTED AND MADE AVAILABLE TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SUBGROUP THAT WENT AND DID THE SITE VISITS BROUGHT BACK TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WAS FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON. 
          THE CITY OF HOUSTON HAD, UM, BEEN THROUGH A SOLICITATION A FEW YEARS AGO, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY OF HOUSTON DID WAS THEY NEGOTIATED WITH BOTH VENDORS OR BOTH PROPOSERS, UH, BEFORE THEY MADE THEIR FINAL SELECTION. 
          AND THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT APPROACH, AND REALLY LIKED THAT APPROACH AND RECOMMENDED THAT WE TAKE A SIMILAR APPROACH HERE ON OUR SOLICITATION. 
          SO IN JUNE, THEY REALLY FELT LIKE BOTH RESPONDENTS AND PROPOSALS WERE, UM, COMPLIANT WITH THE R F P P AND REALLY WANTED TO MOVE INTO THIS NEXT PHASE OF NEGOTIATING WITH BOTH VENDORS. 
          SO THAT BEGAN IN EARLY SUMMER AND ACTUALLY, UM, WENT ON THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER. 
          SO A SUB, UH, SUB-TEAM OF, UH, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UM, NEGOTIATED WITH BOTH VENDORS WITH OUR OUTSIDE COUNSEL. 
          AND THE PURPOSE OF THAT NEGOTIATION WAS REALLY TO FOCUS ON ALIGNING, UH, BUSINESS TERMS, UM, FOCUSING ON, UM, TRANSPARENCY, UM, THE WAY THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO BE DELIVERED, UM, FOCUSING NOT NECESSARILY ON COST, BUT ON THE, THE, ON THE TERMS AND ALIGNING THOSE TERMS BETWEEN THE VENDORS, UM, ASSIGNMENT OF RISK, WHERE RISK WAS GOING TO BE ASSIGNED BETWEEN THE OWNERS AND VERSUS THE VENDORS. 
          THAT WAS ALSO A BIG PART OF THAT PROCESS. 
          AND AGAIN, THAT WENT ON THROUGH THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER. 
          AND ERIC'S GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE, THE, IN A MOMENT, MORE ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THAT PROCESS. 
          WE'VE NOT DONE THIS BEFORE, UM, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT WORKED REALLY WELL, AND I THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT AS ERIC GOES THROUGH THE RESULTS OF THAT, IT WORKED SO WELL THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT IT FROM A PROCUREMENT PERSPECTIVE AND SOME OF OUR MORE COMPLEX, UH, PROCUREMENTS TO SEE IF WE CAN APPLY THIS THERE AS 
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WELL. 
          AND REMEMBER THAT AS THEY NEGOTIATED WITH BOTH VENDORS ON, UM, THOSE ELEMENTS OF RISK AND TRANSPARENCY AND ALIGNMENT OF TERMS, THAT WAS DONE INDEPENDENTLY. 
          AND I THINK YOU'LL BE AMAZED AT, UH, THE RESULTS OF THAT. 
          IN TERMS OF WHERE WE ENDED UP WITH BOTH VENDORS AND BOTH, BOTH RESPONDENTS. 
          ONCE THAT WAS COMPLETED AT THE END OF THE SUMMER, WE DID ASK THE VEN VENDORS TO AGAIN, CONFIRM FOR US THEIR BUSINESS TERMS THAT THEY HAD AGREED TO, UH, TENTATIVELY AGREED TO IN THE SUMMER. 
          THAT HAPPENED IN LATE SEPTEMBER. 
          ONCE THEY DID THAT, WE ASKED THEM TO GIVE US A BEST AND FINAL OFFER ON PRICING. 
          THAT HAPPENED IN MID TO LATE OCTOBER. 
          THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND THEN THAT WAS FINALIZED, UH, AROUND OCTOBER 30TH AND ON NOVEMBER 1ST, IN TERMS OF THE BEST AND FINAL OFFERS FROM THAT TIME UNTIL REALLY EARLY JANUARY, THE THREE OWNERS BEING C P SS ENERGY AND THE COUNTY AND THE CITY WERE WORKING TO FINALIZE, UH, THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT ERIC MENTIONED, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE COUNTY AND BY C P SS ENERGY. 
          BUT, UM, THOSE COUPLE OF MONTHS THERE, WE WERE REALLY WORKING ON FINALIZING THE STRUCTURE AND THE GOVERNANCE AROUND THAT INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          THE ACTUAL SCORING OCCURRED, UM, IN EARLY JANUARY. 
          THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SCORED ON JANUARY 11TH. 
          AND THEN I'LL SAY THAT THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UM, SPENT A LOT OF TIME, I MENTIONED A LOT OF, UH, EFFORT FROM THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, FROM THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UM, DEMOS AND ORAL PRESENTATIONS LASTING OVER A COURSE OF THREE DAYS, NOT COUNTING THE TIME YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THE REVIEW OF THE PROPOSALS AND ALL THE WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, THE, ALL THE TIMES THAT THEY MET. 
          WHEN WE GOT TO THE CONCLUSION OF THIS PROCESS, THEY ACTUALLY SPENT ABOUT 13 AND A HALF HOURS THAT WEEK IN JANUARY MEETING AS A GROUP, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. 
          AND JUST GOING BACK THROUGH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED A LOT OF GREAT CONVERSATION, UM, BEFORE THEY ULTIMATELY SCORED ON, UM, JANUARY 12TH, AND THAT'S WHEN THEY COMPLETED AND FINALIZED THEIR SCORING. 
          AND THEN WE DID A BRIEFING TO CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY ON JANUARY 17TH AND EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WE'RE OF COURSE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE IN B SESSION. 
          AND THEN WE'RE RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD, UH, NEXT WEEK AT A SESSION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE VENDOR CONTRACT AND OUR RECOMMENDATION ALONG WITH THE PROPOSED INTER-LOCAL AGREEMENT. 
          UM, JUST PUT THIS SLIDE IN THERE. 
          AGAIN, NOT A TYPICAL R F P. 
          YOU SAW THE LENGTHY TIMELINE, THE AMOUNT OF DUE DILIGENCE THAT WENT INTO THIS. 
          UM, BUT THIS WAS A, A LARGE R F P WITH A LOT OF TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS, UM, 228 PAGES OF TECHNICAL SCOPE, ALMOST 2,600 TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED, UM, IN THAT R F P. 
          AND THEN AS THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE REVIEWED ALL OF THOSE, I MEAN, THEY SPENT A, A, A LOT OF TIME REALLY WANTING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE SYSTEM WAS GONNA BE DELIVERED, WHAT THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS WERE, DID THEY MEET OUR TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION THAT GENERATED SOMETHING LIKE A LITTLE OVER 400 QUESTIONS TO THE VENDORS TO CLARIFY THINGS THAT THEY SAW IN THEIR PROPOSALS, THINGS THAT THEY HEARD, UM, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. 
          UM, SO AGAIN, ABOUT 2,600 AGENCY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS. 
          THEY'RE LISTED THERE. 
          WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THOSE, BUT THOSE WERE THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS WERE IN THOSE BIGGER CATEGORIES. 
          IN TERMS OF THE TWO PROPOSALS THAT WE DID RECEIVE, UM, FROM THIS PROCESS, BOTH PROPOSERS, UM, HAVE LOCAL PRIMES. 
          BOTH COMPANIES ARE HEADQUARTERED RIGHT HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THE FIRST IS DAILY WELLS, UM, AS A PRIME WITH THE, UH, THE HARRIS CORPORATION RADIO SYSTEM AS BEING THE MANUFACTURER. 
          AND THEN CENTRAL ELECTRIC WITH A MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS AS BEING THE, THE, THE RADIO SYSTEM OR THE MANUFACTURER. 
          UM, I'LL CONCLUDE THIS PART OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS WITH, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ALSO CONCLUDE OR DOES A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE. 
          UM, AND THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE AUDIT OR HIGH PROFILE COMMITTEE HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE. 
          THEY DO A LOT OF, UH, RESEARCH FOR THINGS LIKE, UM, THE SUSPENSION AND DEBARMENT LISTS. 
          THEY LOOK AT THE STATE COMPTROLLER'S WEBSITE. 
          THEY MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CURRENT, THAT'S BEEN A PROPOSER, FRANCHISE FEES ARE PAID, THERE'S NO OUTSTANDING BALANCES TO THE CITY. 
          SO THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF DUE DILIGENCE ALONG THOSE LINES. 
          UM, AND THEY UPDATED IT AGAIN, 'CAUSE OF THE LENGTH OF THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. 
          BUT BASED UPON ALL OF THAT DUE DILIGENCE, UH, WE DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THERE THAT PRECLUDED EITHER PROPOSAL FROM MOVING INTO THAT FINAL EVALUATION OR SCORING PHASE. 
          SO NOTHING, NOTHING OF SIGNIFICANCE OR NOTE THERE THAT WOULD'VE PRECLUDED EITHER ONE FROM GOING FORWARD, UH, INTO THAT EVALUATION PHASE. 
          THE OTHER THING WE TYPICALLY PROVIDE TO YOU AT THE AUDIT HIGH PROFILE COMMITTEE IS A REPORT FROM THE CITY AUDITOR'S OFFICE. 
          THEY ALSO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE ON OUR HIGH PROFILE SOLICITATIONS. 
          SO 
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AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA ASK KEVIN BARTELL TO COME UP AND GIVE YOU HIS REPORT ON WHAT THEY DID ON THIS SOLICITATION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          AND IN ADDITION TO THE FINANCE DUE DILIGENCE THAT BEN JUST MENTIONED, OUR DUE DILIGENCE IN THE AUDIT OFFICE REVOLVES MORE AROUND THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE ETHICS CODE, AS WELL AS THE CAMPAIGN FINANCE CODE, UH, THAT RELATES PRIMARILY TO, UH, CONTRACT DISCLOSURE FORMS THAT NEED TO BE REQUIRED. 
          UH, THAT'S DISCLOSURE OF LOBBYISTS, OWNERS, EXECUTIVE OFFICERS, BOARDS OF OF THE VARIOUS COMPANIES. 
          WE LOOK AT CODE OF CONDUCT, UH, DISCLOSURES, AND ALSO VARIOUS ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT. 
          WE ALSO THEN LOOK AT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS. 
          AS YOU KNOW, WITH THE BLACKOUT PERIOD ON ALL HIGH PROFILE CONTRACTS, THERE IS A, A TERM, UH, A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THEIR, UH, CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE NOT ALLOWED. 
          SO WE LOOK AT THAT TO ENSURE THAT, UH, THOSE INVOLVED IN THIS CONTRACT, UH, HAVE NOT MADE CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS DURING THAT TIME. 
          AND MUCH LIKE FINANCE DID, WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT WAS A VERY LONG, UH, PROCUREMENT PROCESS. 
          SO WE'VE KEPT IT CURRENT, UH, SO THAT WE CAN COME AND PRESENT, UH, TODAY. 
          AND THEN ALSO, WE CHECKED THAT, YOU KNOW, SUBMISSION DEADLINES AS, AS PART OF THE PROCESS ALL, UH, COMPLIED WITH. 
          AND, UH, LIKE THE FINANCE SIDE, WE HAD NO ISSUES, UH, THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS FOR EITHER OF THESE VENDORS. 
          SO, SO, UH, THE EVALUATION, UH, OF THE, UH, SOLICITATION. 
          SO THE EXECUTIVE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UH, WAS MADE UP OF, UH, SEVEN INDIVIDUALS FROM THE CITY, THREE FROM BEAR COUNTY, TWO FROM C P S. 
          UH, WE HAD, UH, ONE OTHER AGENCY REPRESENTATIVE, UH, WHO RETIRED IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR, UM, PROCESS, BUT CONTINUED TO SERVE ON THE PANEL. 
          UH, AND THAT'S, UH, AN ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEF FROM U T S A. 
          AND, UH, WE HAD A REPRESENTATIVE WHO HAD BEEN NOMINATED FROM TECH BLOCK, UH, MR. JOHN YOUNG, WHO'S WITH US TODAY. 
          AND WE WILL, UM, HAVE A, HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND SHARE WITH YOU, UH, HIS PERSPECTIVE. 
          UH, LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, THE, UH, TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, WHICH DID A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK, AND BEN GAVE YOU SOME OF THE STATS IN TERMS OF THE WORK THEY DID, HAD FIVE VOTING MEMBERS, UH, REPRESENTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, I T SS D, BEXAR COUNTY, AND, UH, C P S ENERGY. 
          THERE WERE A NUMBER OF NON-SUPPORT, UH, TECHNICAL ADVISORS, UH, FROM MANY OF THE DEPARTMENTS, A TOTAL OF 14, AND THEN TWO RADIO CONSULTANTS, UH, ONE REPRESENTING THE CITY, MR. MNA SOLOMON FROM, UH, ATE, AND THE COUNTY'S, UH, CONSULTANT, UM, UM, UH, MR. JOHNSON FROM, UH, BLACK AND VEATCH. 
          UH, BOTH OF THOSE CONSULTANTS HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE, UH, EVALUATING AND ADVISING PUBLIC ENTITIES THROUGH THESE TYPES OF COMPLICATED, UH, PROCESSES AND SYSTEMS. SO THE EVALUATION CRITERIA WE UTILIZED IN THIS, UM, SOLICITATION, UM, AND WAS, UH, SHARED, UH, WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AT A B SESSION ON DECEMBER 2ND, 2015, UH, WAS THE FOLLOWING. 
          AND I'M GONNA WORK MY WAY FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN UP, UM, 40 POINTS FOR THE PROPOSED PLAN, 15 POINTS FOR EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, AND QUALIFICATIONS, 15 POINTS FOR, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SPTA ORDINANCE. 
          15 POINTS FOR PRICING, 10 POINTS FOR LOCAL PREFERENCE, AND FIVE POINTS ALLOCATED FOR, UH, VETERAN OWNED SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          SO THE EXECUTIVE, UH, COMMITTEE, UM, HAD THE RESPONSIBILITY OF SCORING. 
          YOU'LL SEE ON THE SLIDE 30 OF THE COMBINED 40 PROPOSED PLAN POINTS, AS WELL AS THE 15 POINTS FOR EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, AND QUALIFICATIONS. 
          AND THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UH, SCORED 10 OF THE 40 POINTS ON A PROPOSED PLAN. 
          AND I'VE, I'VE GOT TWO DIFFERENT SLIDES LATER ON THAT SHOW YOU HOW BOTH THOSE SCORES, UM, UH, WERE BROKEN OUT. 
          UH, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SCORING THE S SPTA COMPLIANCE AND OUR FINANCE, UH, DEPARTMENTS OF PROCUREMENT DIVISION, UH, DID THE SCORING OF PRICING, LOCAL PREFERENCE, AND VETERAN-OWNED SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          SO THE TECHNICAL SCORING CATEGORIES, UH, THAT WERE DEVELOPED, UH, ON THE FRONT END IN THE, UH, AS PART OF THE R F P, UM, WERE THE FOLLOWING, UH, OVERALL SOLUTION AND DESIGN COVERAGE MIGRATION PLAN, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN, UH, THE RADIOS AND DISPATCH CONSOLES, 
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PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION AND VENDOR IN INNOVATIVENESS. 
          UM, PART OF THE RECOMMENDED BEST PRACTICES THAT WE RECEIVED, AND THE ADVICE WE RECEIVED FROM OUR CONSULTANTS WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU UTILIZE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO REVIEW AND EVALUATE, UH, THE TECHNICAL, UM, ASPECTS OF THE, OF THE PROPOSALS. 
          AND, UM, THIS WAS A VERY, UM, A LONG, A DETAILED PROCESS, UM, THAT TOOK UP A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          AND, UH, ALL THREE AGENCIES, THE CITY, THE COUNTY, AND C P S, UH, SPENT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME ON THIS AREA. 
          IN TERMS OF THE SCORING BY THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UM, THEY TOOK THOSE SEVEN CATEGORIES, UM, AND THE WEIGHTS THAT YOU SEE ON THE SLIDE, UM, AND ESTABLISH THE CATEGORIES AND THE WEIGHTS PRIOR TO THE RFPS RELEASE, UH, FROM THE TECHNICAL ADVISOR, FROM THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE STANDPOINT, THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, UH, THOSE WEIGHTS WERE ESTABLISHED, UM, BASED ON LEVEL OF PRIORITY. 
          UM, WHEN THE VOTING OCCURRED, UH, THAT SECOND WEEK IN JANUARY BY THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE, UH, THEY VOTED AND SCORED EACH OF THE PROPOSALS IN EACH OF THE SEVEN CATEGORIES. 
          ON A SCALE FROM ONE TO 10. 
          UM, ALL FIVE SCORES WERE AVERAGED, AND THEN THERE WAS A WEIGHTED AVERAGED APPLIED BASED ON THE RELATIVE WEIGHT OF THE, UH, CATEGORY. 
          UM, THE, THE SEVEN CATEGORIES THAT REALLY MAKE UP 60% OF THE TOTAL ARE PLAN, DESIGN, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN, AND THE IMPLEMENTATION PLAN. 
          THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE SAW THOSE THREE AS BEING THE LARGEST, UH, ISSUES OF THE, OF THE AREAS OF MOST IMPORTANCE, UH, FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE. 
          UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, IT'S A VERY CLOSE, UH, SCORE. 
          UH, DAILY WELLS SCORED 7.66 OUTTA 10, AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC SCORED 7.48 OUT OF 10. 
          UH, I WANNA HIGHLIGHT TWO AREAS, UH, THERE ON THE SCREEN. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE PLAN, UH, THAT HAS A POINT SPREAD OF, UH, 1.81 POINTS, UH, IN FAVOR OF DAILY WELLS, UH, FROM THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE STANDPOINT, AND THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED AT THE EXECUTIVE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UH, EXPERIENCE OF THE COMPANIES AND THE PERSONNEL AND THEIR ABILITY TO SUPPORT, UH, THE SYSTEM, UM, ESPECIALLY AFTER, AFTER SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATION, UH, WAS A, UM, A KEY ISSUE THAT THAT COMMITTEE TALKED ABOUT AND DISCUSSED. 
          THAT ISSUE WILL COME UP LATER ON AS I TALK ABOUT THE SCORING, UH, OF THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. 
          UH, THE SECOND AREA I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS, UH, THE RADIO AND CONSOLES. 
          I THINK IT SET A SUBSCRIBERS AND CONSOLES, BUT SUBSCRIBERS ARE THE ACTUAL RADIOS. 
          UM, UH, THERE'S A POINT SPREAD OF 1.75 POINTS, UH, IN FAVOR OF CENTRAL ELECTRIC, UH, IN THAT CATEGORY. 
          UH, THE UNDERLYING DRIVER, UH, HERE WAS THAT OF THE EMPLOYEE SURVEYS THAT BEN TALKED ABOUT DURING THE PROCESS THAT WE D THAT WE DID AS PART OF THE DEMOS. 
          UM, FIREFIGHTERS GENERALLY PREFERRED THE MOTOROLA RADIO, UH, OVER THE HARRIS RADIO, UH, POLICE OFFICERS ONLY A SLIGHT PREFERENCE OVER THE HARRIS RADIOS AND A SLIGHT PREFERENCE, UH, BY BOTH POLICE AND FIRE FOR THE HARRIS DISPATCH CONSOLES. 
          SO THAT PREFERENCE, UM, AND THE DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED AT THE TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE REALLY DROVE, UH, MOST OF THAT, UM, THAT SPREAD THERE. 
          UH, AGAIN, I I POINT OUT BOTH THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY ARE, UM, CRITICAL ISSUES THAT WILL RESURFACE LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR EVALUATION, UH, FROM THE EXECUTIVE STANDPOINT. 
          SO, FROM A, FROM THE EXECUTIVE EVALUATION STANDPOINT, UH, IN TERMS OF PROPOSED PLAN, REMEMBER THE, THE EXECUTIVE EVALUATION COMMITTEE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR SCORING THE REMAINING 30 POINTS OF THE 40 POINT PROPOSAL. 
          AND FROM A, UH, FROM, FROM, UH, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE'S STANDPOINT, UH, THE DAILY WELLS, UH, IN THE CATEGORY OF SITE PLAN, THERE WAS A HIGHER, UH, LEVERAGE OF ENTERPRISE OWNED ASSETS. 
          AND THE SITE PLAN IS REALLY REFERRING TO TOWERS THAT ARE GONNA NEED TO BE CONSTRUCTED OR LEASED. 
          UM, THE, UH, DAILY WELLS PLAN TOOK ADVANTAGE OF, UM, UH, BOTH CITY PROPERTY, COUNTY PROPERTY, C P S PROPERTY, SAWS, PROPERTY, UH, OTHER PUBLIC ENTITY PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND WE SAW THAT AS, UH, LESS RISK, UH, IN TERMS OF HAVING TO BUILD NEW ANTENNAS, UM, 
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IN, UM, IN, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREAS OR, UM, IN OTHER AREAS WHERE WE COULD ENCOUNTER SOME ISSUES. 
          OVERALL, THE DAILY WELLS PROPOSAL CALLED FOR 27 TOWERS. 
          UM, JUST IN, IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE CURRENT CITY COUNTY, UH, SYSTEM HAS 14 TOWERS. 
          THE DAILY WELLS PROPOSAL CALLED FOR 27 TOWERS, AND THE CENTRAL ELECTRIC, UH, UH, PROPOSAL CALLED FOR 28 TOWERS. 
          UH, THE CENTRAL ELECTRIC PROPOSAL HAD A COMBINATION OF PRIVATELY OWNED, UH, ANTENNAS, UM, BUT ALSO HAD IN THEIR PROPOSAL, UH, THE USE OF, UM, UH, PUBLICLY, UH, OWNED, UH, ANTENNAS IN TERMS OF, IN TERMS OF, UH, TECHNICAL RISK. 
          THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UH, SAW THAT THERE WAS, UM, A BETTER INTEGRATION BETWEEN THE, UH, LEGACY SYSTEM, THE EXISTING SYSTEM, AND, UH, THE NEW SYSTEM, UH, THAT WAS PROPOSED BY DAILY WELLS, UH, AND UNDER CENTRAL ELECTRIC, UM, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE WE'RE CONVERTING, WE'RE CHANGING, UH, FROM, UH, ONE SYSTEM TO THE, TO ANOTHER LIMITED INTEGRATION BETWEEN THE LEGACY, THERE WILL BE A TIME, A PERIOD OF TIME AS WE TRANSITION WHERE THERE WILL NEED TO BE, UM, BOTH SYSTEMS RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF SUPPORT PLAN, UH, DAILY WELLS HAS A LOCAL DATA CENTER. 
          UM, THEY, UH, HAVE AN ESTABLISHED SUPPORT PERSONNEL THAT, UH, DO THAT WORK NOW. 
          AND, UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE CENTRAL ELECTRIC PROPOSAL, UM, THE REMOTE DATA CENTER THAT, UH, THE CENTRAL ELECTRIC PROPOSAL WAS RELYING UPON IS A, UH, HUGELY ROBUST AND CERTAINLY CAPABLE DATA CENTER, UH, BEING OPERATED BY MOTOROLA, UM, AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC, UM, CERTAINLY GAVE US THE COMMITMENT THAT THEY WERE GONNA HIRE THAT LOCAL TALENT AND IT IN ORDER TO PROVIDE THE SUPPORT HERE IN TOWN. 
          SO THE DIFFERENCE HERE REALLY IS, UM, UH, ONE COMPANY DOES IT, AND THE OTHER COMPANY GAVE US A VERY STRONG COMMITMENT THAT THEY WERE GONNA DO THAT, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE RADIO SYSTEM. 
          IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND, EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS, UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME STATS ON THE TWO, UH, DEPARTMENTS OR TWO, UH, COMPANIES. 
          DAILY. 
          WELLS WAS, UM, UH, ESTABLISHED IN 1972, CENTRAL ELECTRIC IN 1975, BOTH HEADQUARTERED HERE LOCALLY, UH, DAILY WELLS, 65 EMPLOYEES AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC WITH 99. 
          UM, THE DAILY WELLS IS A, UH, ASIAN AMERICAN, UM, CERTIFIED BUSINESS, MINORITY OWNED BUSINESS, AND A SMALL BUSINESS ENTERPRISE. 
          AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC IS A HISPANIC AMERICAN, UH, MINORITY AND SMALL BUSINESS, UH, CERTIFICATIONS. 
          UH, WHAT THOSE, UH, THE CERTIFICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, SOUTH CENTRAL, UH, CERTIFICATION AGENCY DAILY WELLS IS A RADIO AND TV BROADCASTING, WIRELESS COMMUNICATION, EQUIPMENT, MANUFACTURING AND INSTRUMENT, UH, ELECTRICAL MANUFACTURING. 
          AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC IS AN ELECTRICAL CONTRACTING, UH, COMPANY. 
          UH, THIS IS WHERE THE ISSUE OF OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, UH, WAS, UH, REVISITED AND DISCUSSED, UM, GREATLY AT THE EXECUTIVE LEVEL. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF SYSTEM, UH, IMPLEMENTATION, UH, DAILY WELLS IS, UM, CURRENTLY ONE OF HARRIS CORPORATION, HARRIS CORPORATION'S, UH, LARGEST INTEGRATORS, UH, IN THE COUNTRY AND SERVICE, UM, WESTERN UNITED STATES. 
          AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC, UH, ITSELF IS A NEW ENTRANT, UH, INTO THIS MARKET. 
          THEY'RE CERTAINLY NOT NEW IN BUSINESS, BUT THIS IS A NEW FIELD, UH, FOR THEM. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE, UH, AGAIN, AT THE, AT THE EXECUTIVE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UH, THE LOCAL EXPERTISE FOR IMMEDIATE SUPPORT, UH, JUXTAPOSED AGAINST, UM, INITIALLY, UH, THE CENTRAL ELECTRIC PROPOSAL WAS GONNA BE, UH, RELIANT HEAVILY ON MOTOROLA TO IMPLEMENT THE SYSTEM. 
          UM, BUT THEREAFTER, UM, THE COMMITMENT, WE HAD A COM VERY STRONG COMMITMENT FROM CENTRAL ELECTRIC TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT TECHNICAL EXPERTISE, UM, THROUGHOUT THE LIFE OF THIS 15 YEAR AGREEMENT. 
          SO, PRICING AND TIMELINE. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BEN TALKED ABOUT, UH, IN THE TIMELINE WAS THE, UH, CONCEPT THAT WE TOOK FROM OUR FIELD VISITS, UH, AND SOMETHING THAT, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES DID, UH, WHICH WAS A NEGOTIATION PERIOD PRIOR TO SCORING. 
          UM, AND, UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, THE KEY THINGS THAT THE CITY UNDERTOOK ALONG WITH THE COUNTY AND C P S WAS ENSURING THAT 
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THROUGH THAT SIDE-BY-SIDE NEGOTIATION PROCESS THAT WE ENSURED, UH, VENDOR PERFORMANCE, PROJECT DELIVERY, UH, THE PLACEMENT OF APPROPRIATE RISK ON THE VENDOR, UH, WE CERTAINLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD CLARITY AND WE WANTED TO EQUALIZE THE BUSINESS TERMS, UH, BETWEEN BOTH PROPOSALS, UM, YOU SEE, UH, BEFORE YOU ON THE PRICING, UM, WHAT WE THINK IS THE END RESULT OF THAT PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH DURING THE SUMMER. 
          UM, WHAT THAT SHOWS AND WHAT WE'VE TAKEN AWAY FROM THIS PROCESS IS THAT THAT SHOWED THE TRUE COST AND THE TRUE TIMELINES ASSOCIATED WITH IMPLEMENTING A SYSTEM AS COMPLEX AS A RADIO SYSTEM IN, IN, IN, UH, IN THIS AREA. 
          WE CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT THE TIME WAS WELL WORTH SPENT IN TERMS OF TOTAL COSTS, UM, UH, DAILY WELLS CAME IN AT, UH, 106.65 MILLION AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC AT 106.67 MILLION. 
          UH, THE CAPITAL COST ARE, UH, IN BOTH CATEGORIES ARE PRIMARILY, UH, DESIGNED FOR THE ANTENNAS OR THE TOWERS. 
          UM, THE, UM, UM, NETWORKING EQUIPMENT, UH, THE RADIOS THEMSELVES. 
          UM, AND THAT'S TO BE EXPENDED OVER A 42, UH, 42 MONTH PERIOD IN DAILY WELL STAND, UH, CASE THAN 41 MONTHS UNDER CENTRAL ELECTRIC. 
          AND THE OPERATING COSTS ARE THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT AND SOFTWARE LICENSING, UH, THAT WERE INCLUDED IN BOTH, UM, PROPOSALS. 
          UH, AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE OVER A 15 YEAR, UH, CYCLE. 
          I'LL BREAK THAT DOWN LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION ON HOW THAT APPLY. 
          HOW OUR 56%, 22% COUNTY AND 22% C UH, C P S, UH, GET APPLIED. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE HAD TWO PROPOSALS THAT WERE WITHIN $18,000 OF EACH OTHER, UH, AND WITHIN 30 DAYS OF EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF MPLEMENTATION TIMELINE. 
          SO ON JANUARY 7TH, ON JANUARY 12TH, UH, THE EXECUTIVE EVALUATION COMMITTEE SCORED THE PROPOSALS, UH, AND THE RESULT WAS THAT DAILY WELLS, THE DAILY WELLS PROPOSAL RECEIVED, UM, 86.16 POINTS ON THE CENTRAL ELECTRIC SCORE, UH, 81.23 A, UH, 4.93 POINT SPREAD BETWEEN THE TWO PROPOSALS. 
          UM, LET ME COVER THE EASY STUFF FIRST. 
          SO, IN TERMS OF THE VETERAN OWNED SMALL BUSINESS, UH, NEITHER PROPOSAL RECEIVED ANY POINTS FOR THAT. 
          UM, IN TERMS OF LOCAL PREFERENCE, COMPLIANCE WITH THE SPTA ORDINANCE AND PRICING, UH, BOTH PROPOSALS RECEIVED, UH, THE FULL, UH, FOR THE FULL POINTS ALLOCATED FOR THOSE THREE CATEGORIES. 
          UH, ON THE SECOND LINE FROM THE TOP, YOU SEE THE TECHNICAL SCORING RESULTS THAT I SHARED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, THE 7.66 DAILY WELLS AND 7.48 CENTRAL ELECTRIC. 
          THE LARGEST DIFFERENCE, UM, THAT YOU SEE HERE IS REALLY THE 2.98 POINT SPREAD, UM, BETWEEN DAILY WELLS AND CENTRAL ELECTRIC IN THE AREAS OF EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, UH, AND QUALIFICATIONS. 
          AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE WAS, UH, A LOT OF DISCUSSION, UH, AT THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. 
          UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, THE, THE DEMONSTRATIONS THAT WE WENT THROUGH, UM, BROUGHT OUT, UH, THE C E O OF MOTOROLA TO, UH, GIVE HIS COMMITMENT, UH, AT THE DEMONSTRATION AT DAILY WELLS. 
          WE HAD THE, UH, C E O OF HARRIS THERE EXPRESSING, UH, HIS COMMITMENT. 
          UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, UM, THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT SCORING CAME DOWN TO WE HAD A LOCAL COMPANY WITH, UH, 46 YEARS EXPERIENCE DESIGNING, IMPLEMENTING, UH, INSTALLING AND MAINTAINING RADIO SYSTEMS. AND WE HAD A COMPANY THAT, UM, A WELL-ESTABLISHED COMPANY IN SAN ANTONIO THAT, UH, HAS WORKED, UH, EXTREMELY HARD OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO, UM, GET INTO A NEW MARKET, UM, AND MADE SINCERE COMMITMENTS, UH, BUT HAD NOT DONE, UH, THAT LEVEL OF WORK BEFORE IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE AND SUPPORT. 
          UM, AND, UH, IN TERMS OF EXPERIENCE AND QUALIFICATIONS, UH, THAT WAS THE SINGLE BIGGEST DRIVER, UH, THAT I THINK, UH, I TOOK AWAY AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. 
          THERE. 
          CERTAINLY, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UM, NOBODY DAILY WELLS DIDN'T HAVE EXPERIENCE 20 YEARS AGO. 
          UM, AND, UM, UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK THAT AS AN EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UM, BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT EXPERTISE, UM, LOCALLY AND REALLY NOT JUST LOCALLY, BUT HAVING THE EXPERTISE THAT HAVE DONE 
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THAT, INSTALLED THOSE SYSTEMS AND MAINTAINED THOSE SYSTEMS REALLY OUTWEIGHED, UH, THE, UH, CENTRAL ELECTRIC, UH, PROPOSAL. 
          UM, BEFORE I LEAVE THIS SLIDE, I'D LIKE TO ASK, UM, MR. YOUNG, UH, WHO WAS THE TECH BLOCK, UH, REPRESENTATIVE, AND, UM, CAME TO ALL OF OUR MEETINGS OVER THE COURSE OF TWO YEARS, WAS THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAME TO THE MEETINGS WHO WASN'T PAID. 
          HE DONATED HIS TIME AND SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND GAVE US GOOD, UH, FEEDBACK AND GUIDANCE AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS COMPLICATED SYSTEM, MR. YOUNG. 
          HELLO EVERYONE. 
          UH, YEAH, I WASN'T PAID TO BE ON THIS, BUT, UH, UH, IT WAS A PRIVILEGE TO DO SO. 
          I WAS, UH, VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE SERIOUSNESS AND THE DILIGENCE AT, AT WHICH THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, AND EVERYBODY TOOK THIS. 
          UM, UH, MY BROTHER IS ACTUALLY A FIREFIGHTER FOR, UH, UH, SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, THAT KIND OF MADE IT HARD ON ME 'CAUSE I CAN'T DISCUSS ANYTHING. 
          BUT, UM, UH, I, I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE PROCESS. 
          UH, I FELT IT WAS VERY FAIR EVALUATION. 
          UM, A LOT OF FACTORS WERE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT AND, UH, THIS WAS A HIGHLY TECHNICAL THING TO BE INVOLVED IN. 
          AND, UM, I, I WAS, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I, I FELT LIKE, UH, THE, WHEN, WHEN WE CAME TO THE EVALUATIONS, IT WAS A VERY, VERY CLOSE THING BECAUSE OF THE MULTI-YEAR PROCESS THAT HAD BEEN UNDERTAKEN TO BRING THESE GUYS TO A LEVEL WHERE WHAT THEY WERE COMMITTING TO IS WHAT THEY CAN DELIVER. 
          AND, UH, SO I I, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY, UH, OBSERVATION ON THIS. 
          UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANKS, JOHN. 
          SO, IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, KEY, UH, CONTRACT, UM, PROVISIONS AND, UM, UH, VENDOR TERMS IN THE CONTRACT, UM, THE, UM, UH, TIMELINE, UH, TO IMPLEMENT THE SYSTEM IS OVER 42 MONTHS. 
          UM, THERE ARE 11 MAJOR MILESTONES. 
          UM, THERE ARE, UM, UM, 11 MAJOR MILESTONES, UM, WITH, UH, ON THE GROUND, UM, UH, TESTING BY FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, ON THE COVERAGE AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          UH, THE LAST TWO MILESTONES IN THIS, UH, PROCESS ARE WHAT'S CALLED A, UH, BURN IN A 60 DAY BURN IN. 
          AND THE BURN IN IS, UH, A TESTING PERIOD WHERE ALL THE PARTIES, UH, THE CITY, THE COUNTY C P SS ON THE SYSTEM, UH, CONFIRM THAT THE SYSTEM IS WORKING AND READY FOR USE OVER A 60 DAY PERIOD. 
          AND THAT 60 DAY PERIOD STARTS OVER IF THERE ARE ANY SUBSTANTIAL DIFFICULTIES. 
          UH, IF THERE ARE, IT STARTS OVER, UH, THE TOP, THE CLOCK STARTS OVER IN TERMS OF THE 60 DAYS. 
          AS PART OF THAT, UH, THE CONTRACT, UH, WOULD HOLD 14%, UH, UNTIL COMPLETION. 
          AND THAT 14% IS EQUIVALENT TO ABOUT A LITTLE OVER $11 MILLION. 
          THE OTHER THING THAT'S KEY FOR US IN TERMS OF A KEY PROVISION WERE THE, THE DEL DELIVERY GUARANTEES. 
          AND THIS WAS A ANOTHER BENEFIT OF THE, UH, PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH DURING THE SUMMER AS WE NEGOTIATED THE RISK AND DELIVERY OF A SYSTEM, UH, WITH BOTH VENDORS, UH, IF AND WHEN UNDER A DELIVERY GUARANTEE. 
          IF AND WHEN ANYTHING HAPPENS THAT IMPACTS TIME OR MONEY, IT'S CLEARLY DENOTED IN THE CONTRACT THAT IT'S THE VENDOR'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CORRECT. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE TAKEAWAYS THAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON. 
          MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE THE RISK LIES. 
          UM, AND, AND WE BELIEVE IN THE CONTRACT THAT IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PREPARED, UH, AND AGREED UPON THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT ANYTHING OUTSIDE, UH, THAT DISRUPTS TIME AND MONEY BECOMES THE VENDOR'S RESPONSIBILITY, UH, OF THE PROCESS. 
          IN TERMS OF, UH, PRICING, UM, IN TERMS, UH, CAPITAL IS $80.7 MILLION. 
          UH, THAT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          THAT'S $1.2 MILLION DIFFERENT THAN THE PRICING YOU SAW EARLIER. 
          AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN, UH, THERE'S A EXERCISE THAT, UH, AN OPTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, UM, RECOMMEND EXERCISING, AND IT CALLS FOR THE ADDITION OF TWO MOBILE TOWERS, WHICH WOULD BE TOWERS THAT IF WE HAD, UM, A MINOR TO TORNADO LIKE WE HAD IN LAST FEBRUARY, AND TOOK DOWN A COUPLE OF TRANSMISSION LINES IF A RADIO ANTENNA WENT DOWN RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T HAVE A MOBILE ANTENNA TO PUT UP TO, UM, BOLSTER THAT COVERAGE IN THAT AREA. 
          AND AS PART OF THIS, AS WE WERE DEVELOPING THIS AND, AND GOING THROUGH, UM, AND VISITING OTHER CITIES, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SAW AS LACKING IN TERMS OF OUR OWN CAPABILITY HERE LOCALLY. 
          UH, SO IT'S $80.7 MILLION OVER 42 MONTHS. 
          UH, THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE IS $27.3 MILLION OVER 15 YEARS. 
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UH, THE CONTRACT GUARANTEES, UH, DISCOUNTS ON FUTURE PURCHASES OF EQUIPMENT, AND THEY'LL BE BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT. 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, NEGOTIATED WHAT'S CALLED A MOST FAVORED NATION CLAUSE, WHICH ALLOWS US TO, AT A POINT SOMEWHERE IN THE CONTRACT, UH, ENSURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANOTHER LARGE, UM, CLIENT THAT IS RECEIVING BETTER PRICES THAN US, AND, UH, ALLOWS US TO EXERCISE THAT, UH, FOR A BULK PURCHASE, UH, SOMETIME OVER THE PERIOD. 
          UM, LASTLY, UH, FLEXIBILITY IN TERMS OF HARDWARE QUANTITIES UP TO 5%. 
          AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT, UM, THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT TO PRICING, UH, AS LONG AS WE STAY WITHIN QUANTITIES OF THE 5%. 
          THE QUANTITIES THAT WE DICTATED IN THE R F P WERE ALL ESTIMATES THAT ALL OF THE PARTICIPATING AGENCIES LAID OUT AS WE WENT INTO THE SOLICITATION. 
          NOW, THIS, THIS 5%, UH, DOES NOT APPLY TO, UH, THE FIRE PORTABLE RADIOS. 
          AND I'M GONNA EXPLAIN THE FIRE RADIOS BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, UH, THE SURVEY THAT WE TOOK, UH, THAT WE HAD THE EMPLOYEES TAKE, UH, THERE WAS A, UM, THE FIREFIGHTERS WERE, UH, A LOT MORE PARTIAL AND, UH, UH, FAVORABLE TOWARDS THE MOTOROLA ACTUAL HANDSET THAN THEY WERE THE HARRIS. 
          AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, THAT WE HAVE, UH, AFTER THE SCORING WAS DONE, DISCUSSED, AND NEGOTIATED, IS THAT WE WOULD GIVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CONTRACT THE COMPLETE ABILITY TO TEST WHATEVER RADIO THEY WANT AND PURCHASE ANY RADIO THEY WANT. 
          PART OF THIS IS MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE, WE'RE BUYING A P 25 SYSTEM, AND THAT P 25 SYSTEM IS A SYSTEM THAT WAS DICTATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AFTER NINE 11 THAT REQUIRES RADIO SYSTEMS TO BE INTEROPERABLE. 
          UM, IT'S MUCH LIKE, AND THIS IS A SIMPLIFIED EXAMPLE. 
          MY IPHONE WORKS ON A AT AND T NETWORK AND A SPRINT NETWORK. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WE FOUND OUT IS THAT, UH, HARRIS IS ALSO DEVELOPING A FIRE RADIO TO BE RE-RELEASED IN 2019. 
          THAT IS NOT THE RADIO THAT WE TESTED. 
          UH, IT IS NOT THE RADIO THAT THE FIREFIGHTERS WERE, UH, SURVEYED ON. 
          AND, UH, WE DID NOT WANT TO BE, UH, IN ANY WAY COMMITTED TO PURCHASING A RADIO THAT HADN'T GONE THROUGH THAT RIGOROUS INDEPENDENT TESTING. 
          AND THAT FIELD TESTINGS THAT FIRE, UH, SPECIFIC FIELD TESTING, UH, OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 15 YEARS. 
          SO THE CONTRACT HAS THE ABILITY FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO HAVE INPUT IN THE RADIO DESIGN WITH HARRIS. 
          IT WILL REQUIRE IT TO GO THROUGH INDEPENDENT TESTING AND FIELD TESTING, AND THEN GIVES, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT. 
          AND IT CLEARLY SAYS THIS IN THE CONTRACT, WHETHER IT PASSES OR NOT, THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE FIRE CHIEF WILL HAVE THE SOLE DISCRETION TO DETERMINE WHAT RADIO THE FIREFIGHTERS WILL UTILIZE. 
          UM, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE SYSTEM WORKS AND IS SUPPORTIVE OF OTHER FUNCTIONALITY ON REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR, WHAT HANDSET YOU, YOU'RE UTILIZING. 
          AND THIS WILL GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TEST THIS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT 42 MONTHS. 
          THE SYSTEM WILL NOT GO LIVE FOR ANOTHER THREE AND A HALF YEARS. 
          WE BELIEVE WE'LL HAVE TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          IF THE HARRIS RADIO THAT IS, UH, SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERED OR DEVELOPED IN 2019 NEVER COMES TO FRUITION, WELL THEN WE'RE NOT COMMITTED TO IT. 
          UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BUILT IN COMPLETE LATITUDE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND IT'S IMPORTANT FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE, UM, THEY'RE USE, THEY'RE USING THOSE RADIOS WITH GLOVED HANDS. 
          THE SCREENS NEED TO BE BIGGER, THE KNOBS NEED TO BE BIGGER, THE ANTENNA NEEDS TO BE SHORTER. 
          UM, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH, UH, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, UM, THIS, THIS IS POTENTIALLY ALSO A CONCERN, UH, FOR C P S, WHOSE LINESMEN ALSO USE GLOVES. 
          AND, UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD INCLUDE THEM IN THIS EVALUATION AND CERTAINLY, UM, GOING FORWARD. 
          BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT CONTRACTUALLY WE WERE NOT OBLIGATED TO PURCHASE ANY SYSTEM OR ANY RADIO HANDSET, SPECIFICALLY A HARRIS RADIO HANDSET FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THAT WE GAVE OURSELVES THE ABILITY TO MAKE THAT DECISION THROUGH OUR OWN TESTING METHODOLOGIES AT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          UH, THE, UH, PROJECT PROTECTIONS THAT ARE IN THE CONTRACT, UH, THESE ARE PROTECTIONS THAT WERE NEGOTIATED, UM, UH, TO KEEP THE PROJECT IN TACT AND, AND ULTIMATELY HOLD THE VENDOR ACCOUNTABLE AS WE GO THROUGH DEPLOYMENT. 
          AND THEN OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, THERE'S A LETTER OF CREDIT, IT'S A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, ANNUALLY RENEWABLE, UM, 
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THAT IN THE, IN, UH, IN THE CASE OF A MAJOR DEFAULT, AND WE'VE NOTIFIED THEM OF A MAJOR DEFAULT, UH, CAN BE PULLED IF THE VENDOR IS NON-RESPONSIVE. 
          AND THAT'S, UH, TO BE RENEWED, UM, ANNUALLY BY THE VENDOR. 
          THAT, UH, LETTER OF CREDIT LIQUIDATED DAMAGES OF, UH, $3.2 MILLION. 
          IF CERTAIN KEY MILESTONES, AND I MENTIONED THOSE 11 MILESTONES EARLIER, ARE NOT MET, THE LIQUIDATED DAMAGES ARE RECOVERABLE BY THE CITY. 
          UH, THIRDLY, WE HAVE A MANUFACTURER GUARANTEE IN THE CONTRACT IF, UH, DAILY WELLS, UM, IF WE NEED TO TERMINATE DAILY WELLS OR DAILY WELLS GOES BANKRUPT, UM, AND WE HAVE TO TERMINATE 'EM FOR NON-PERFORMANCE, UH, HARRIS, UM, IS REQUIRED TO STEP IN AND ASSUME THE REMAINING DUTIES, UH, THAT ARE UNDER THE, UNDER THE CONTRACT. 
          UM, SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UM, UM, OUR ASSUMPTION IS THAT HARRIS ISN'T GONNA WANNA DO THAT, AND THAT FROM THEIR END, THEY'RE GONNA BE WATCHING, UH, DAILY WELLS AS THE PROJECT GOES ALONG AND ENSURING THAT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUMPS IN THE ROAD, UH, THAT THROW OFF KEY MILESTONES IN THE DELIVERY OF THE FINAL PRODUCT. 
          UH, FINAL, THE PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT. 
          UH, AND THOSE ARE BONDS THAT ARE REQUIRED UNDER THE STATUTE, UH, PROVIDING THAT ADDITIONAL THIRD PARTY GUARANTEES. 
          THOSE, UM, THE PROJECT COMPLETION. 
          NOW, BECAUSE WE DID THE SIDE-BY-SIDE NEGOTIATING DURING THE SUMMER, UH, 95% OF THE CONTRACT IN BOTH CASES WAS ALREADY DONE WITH BOTH COMPANIES. 
          UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS THE BENEFIT OF DOING THAT BECAUSE, UM, NEITHER COMPANY KNEW WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE THE SELECTED COMPANY. 
          AND SO, UM, EVERYBODY WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH, UH, US AND THE NEGOTIATING TEAM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD FAVORABLE, UM, TERMS AND CONDITIONS IN THAT, UM, CONTRACT SINCE JANUARY 12TH, UH, AND THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE, UH, WE HAVE NEGOTIATED, UH, ALL OF THESE OTHER ITEMS INTO THE, UH, CONTRACT DOCUMENT. 
          AND THE CONTRACT DOCUMENT IS COMPLETED AT THIS POINT. 
          THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, UM, THAN, UM, OTHER CONTRACTS, HIGH PROFILE TYPE CONTRACTS. 
          THAT CONTRACT IS DONE AND COMPLETED, AND THERE MAY BE A TWEAK OR TWO DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS. 
          UH, BUT FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, PRIOR TO COMING HERE, DURING B TO B SESSION, TO PRESENT TO YOU THAT WE HAD A FINAL CONTRACT DOCUMENT THAT WAS DONE THAT SAID AND INCLUDED EVERYTHING WE SAID, UH, NEEDED TO BE INCLUDED IN TERMS OF FISCAL IMPACT, UH, THE $80.7 MILLION I SHARED WITH YOU EARLIER, UH, THE CITY'S SHARE OF THAT, 56% OF THAT CAPITAL IS 47.2 MILLION. 
          UH, BEXAR COUNTY 17.8 AND C P SS ENERGY 14.4. 
          AND THEN TO BE DETERMINED, UM, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THE, UH, C P S ENERGY IN BEXAR COUNTY WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THE, UH, IN THE, UH, ACQUISITION AND POTENTIAL UTILIZATION DOWN THE ROAD OF THE MOBILE TOWERS. 
          WE'LL NEED TO WORK THAT OUT WITH THEM, UH, BEFORE COMPLETION. 
          AND THAT'S A VALUE OF $1.3 MILLION. 
          UH, IN TERMS OF TOTAL O AND M EXPENSES, UM, $27.3 MILLION OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD. 
          AND THAT'S BROKEN DOWN. 
          THE FIRST TWO YEARS ARE REALLY, UM, UH, LOWER, UH, BECAUSE, UH, MUCH OF THE COST IS OFFSET OFFSET BY AN EXTENDED WARRANTY. 
          UM, SO, UH, THE SAN ANTONIO CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR 56% OF THE 445,000 AND THE 458,000 IN THE BEGINNING YEAR. 
          THREE, BASED ON THE TALK TIME, THE USAGE OF ALL THE PARTIES WILL, UH, UH, WE WILL, UH, UH, RESET THAT SPLIT. 
          WE'RE ESTIMATING THAT THAT'LL COME OUT TO ABOUT 60% CITY. 
          UH, SO WE'LL BE 60% OF THAT FULL YEAR OF $1.6 MILLION. 
          UH, THAT'S A LITTLE OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE SPENDING CLOSE TO $1.2 MILLION IN TERMS OF OPERATING. 
          SO OUR OPERATING EXPENSE GOING FORWARD, UH, WE'LL BE, UH, ROUGHLY THE SAME, IF NOT, UH, A LITTLE BIT LESS. 
          UM, OUR NEXT STEPS, UH, THAT, UH, WE, WE ARE, THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT, UH, WE PLACE ON CONSIDERATION, UH, ON THE, UH, COUNCIL AGENDA FOR FEBRUARY 15TH. 
          UH, BOTH THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, UH, BY, UH, WITH BEXAR COUNTY AND C P S AND A VENDOR CONTRACT, UH, RECOMMENDING THE AWARD OF A CONTRACT WITH DAILY WELLS COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UH, NEXT WEEK, UM, ION COUNCIL, THERE ARE, UM, A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE HERE. 
          WE HAVE CONSULTANTS HERE. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS THAT PARTICIPATED ON THE EVALUATION, UH, AND UNDERSTAND THE TECHNICAL NATURE AND THE, AND THE, UM, OPERATIONAL NATURE OF THE SYSTEM. 
          WE HAVE FOLKS FROM IT AND, UM, BEN AND I, AND SO I'M SURE THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, AND I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER 'EM ALL TODAY. 
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ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ERIC, FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          AND, UM, WE ALSO THANK THE COUNTY, UH, FOR THEIR WORK, UH, WITH THE CITY AND WITH C P S ON ACHIEVING THE I L A, WHICH I UNDERSTAND WAS PASSED UNANIMOUSLY AT, AT THE COURT, UH, ON THE 11TH. 
          UM, INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED PROJECT, UM, WHICH HAS LED TO A TWO AND A HALF YEAR EFFORT TO GET THIS RIGHT. 
          SO I APPRECIATE ALSO THE RIGOR THAT THE SCORING COMMITTEES, UH, PUT THIS THROUGH. 
          UM, THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MISSING IN YOUR PRESENTATION, ERIC, WAS A PRICE WATERHOUSE FOLDER TO REVEAL THE, THE ACTUAL WINNER OF THE, OF THE, UH, PROCESS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULD BE A FAIRLY SIMPLE THING TO DO NOW THAT WE'VE HAD THIS MANY EXPERTS LOOK AT THIS. 
          I JUST HAVE REALLY ONE QUESTION, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE FIRE PORTABLE RADIOS AND HOW THAT WORKS WITH THE CONTRACT. 
          UM, SO JUST FROM A A, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL PERSPECTIVE, UH, WE ARE APPROVING, WE WOULD BE ASKED TO APPROVE THE DAILY WELLS CONTRACT, WHICH WOULD COVER ALL OF THE RADIOS, UH, FOR C P S, FOR BEXAR COUNTY, WHICH INCLUDES THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE, UH, AS WELL AS SS A P D AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE ONLY THINGS, UH, LEFT, UH, OPEN TO DISCRETION OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THEN WOULD BE THEIR PORTABLE RADIOS. 
          HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE CONTRACT AND, AND HOW MANY UNITS ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? HOW MANY UNITS WERE FIRED? POTENTIALLY TOTAL? 1700. 
          1700. 
          1700 OUT OF THE TOTAL, WHAT'S THE TOTAL CITY ALLOCATION? 17. 
          CITY OF CALGARY. 
          SO, SO THOUSAND OUT OF 11,000. 
          YEAH. 
          SO 1700. 
          AND, AND, UM, I, I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THE, THE, THE ISSUE WITH THE FIRE RADIOS WOULD ALSO INCLUDE THE, UM, THE ESDS THAT, UM, UM, THE EMERGENCY SERVICE DISTRICTS THAT PARTICIPATE OUT IN THE, IN THE COUNTY. 
          BUT SIMPLY SAID, BACK TO YOUR QUESTION, MAYOR, IS THAT WE ARE NOT OBLIGATED UNDER THE CONTRACT TO BUY HARRIS RADIOS. 
          THEY ARE OBLIGATED UNDER THE CONTRACT TO, UM, ALLOW THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, THE ABILITY TO, UH, GIVE INPUT ON THE DESIGN OF THE RADIO, THE HARRIS RADIO. 
          UM, AND THEN BASED ON THE ACCEPTANCE TEST THAT IS DEFINED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, CHIEF HOOD AND VANCE OVER HERE BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, WHICH WOULD, UH, INCLUDE, UH, AN INDEPENDENT TEST LIKELY DONE BY SOUTHWEST RESEARCH, UM, A FIELD TEST, UH, BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, BOTH AT THE ACADEMY AND LIKELY, UH, DEPLOYED WITH FIREFIGHTERS OUT IN THE FIELD. 
          UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS LIKE SOUTHWEST AIRLINES, EVERYTHING'S THE SAME NO MATTER WHERE YOU'RE AT. 
          UM, AND SO WHEN THEY MAKE MAJOR EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, GENERALLY THOSE ARE DONE AT A COMMITTEE LEVEL. 
          THAT COMMITTEE LEVEL PROCESS WOULD OCCUR DURING, UM, THE EVALUATION OF THESE RADIOS. 
          AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, IF THE, UM, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT A HARRIS RADIO MAY PASS A FIRE, UH, REGARDLESS, THE FIRE CHIEF AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE CONTRACT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE UP THEIR MIND AND GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. 
          IT DOESN'T, THE CONTRACT DOESN'T SAY IF THE RADIO THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT IN 2019, UM, PASSES ALL THESE THINGS AND YOU GOTTA BUY IT, IT SAYS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE INPUT IN THE CONTRACT INTO THE DESIGN OF THE 2019 RADIO. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL ACCEPT IT. 
          WE'LL, WE WILL RUN IT THROUGH THE FIRE DETERMINED TESTING, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL DECIDE. 
          SO WE HAVE COMPLETE LATITUDE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE ESDS AND OTHER, UM, FIRE DEPARTMENTS DOWN THE ROAD AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAY, MAY, UH, BE ON THE, ON THE SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND THAT, AND THAT PROCESS IS STILL THROUGH, UH, THE VENDOR THAT WOULD WE, WE WOULD SELECT ON THE 15TH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND, AND, UH, IMPORTANT POINT THAT BEN MENTIONED, THAT, THAT THAT LATITUDE THAT WE ASKED FOR AND GOT IN THE CONTRACT, UH, HAS NO IMPACT ON THE PRICING THAT WAS SUBMITTED. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BY, IN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSALS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, UH, BOTTOM LINE FOR ME IS THAT THIS IS, UH, SUCH AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY OPERATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS KNOWING THAT PUBLIC SAFETY WAS INVOLVED WITH THE PROCESS OF SELECTION. 
          UM, I CAN'T ARGUE WITH, UH, THE RIGOR OR WITH THE OUTCOME BASED ON THE PROCESS. 
          SO APPRECIATE THE, THE, UM, THE WORK THAT'S GONE INTO THIS. 
          JOHN, THANK YOU ALSO FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, SORRY I TOOK THIS LONG TO DO IT, BUT I'M GLAD THAT WE GOT IT DONE, UH, THE RIGHT WAY. 
          SO I'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, COUNCIL COMMENT. 
          WE'LL START WITH COUNCILWOMAN GRO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ERIC. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. 
          UH, SURE. 
          AND 
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THANK YOU FOR THIS. 
          I WAS TIMING IT, IT WAS 58 MINUTES, UH, ACTUALLY AN HOUR, 60 MINUTES OF YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS, TWO AND A HALF YEARS, 60 MINUTES FOR A PRESENTATION. 
          UM, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT IS AN IMPORTANT ISSUE. 
          AND I THINK I WANNA THANK YOU, MR. YOUNG AND EVERYONE. 
          I WAS COMMENTING TO THE MAYOR, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE HAVE HERE IN THIS ROOM TODAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS PROCESS, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS VERY SERIOUS, AND WE DO NEED TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND WE AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, BECAUSE WE ARE VOTING ON THIS MOVING FORWARD. 
          'CAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE OF THE I L A, WHATEVER WE VOTE ON IS WHAT'S GOING TO BE MOVING FORWARD FOR ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES. 
          SO THAT'S WHY IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO ME. 
          AND BECAUSE IT IS THE LIFELINE FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS, AND OUR LINESMEN AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT ARE GONNA BE USING THESE RADIOS. 
          UM, AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I AM CURIOUS ON SLIDE NUMBER. 
          UH, LET ME GO TO WHICH ONE OF, OF THE FIRST ONES THE TIMELINE, NOT PROJECT TIMELINE. 
          YEAH. 
          PROJECT TIMELINE. 
          SLIDE NUMBER 15, YOU HAVE THE SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE AND FAILED ANALYSIS END. 
          SO THE SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE, THAT WAS SOMETHING NEW THAT HAPPENED. 
          WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THE RADIOS GOT TESTED AND WE HAD THAT KIND OF TESTING THAT HAPPENED. 
          WHAT WAS THE REPORT OF THE SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE? UM, BOTH RADIOS PASSED THE, UM, WHAT'S CALLED MILITARY SPECS, THE MILL SPECS. 
          UM, AND YOU HAVE A REPORT OF THAT? UH, WE DO HAVE A REPORT, YES. 
          CAN YOU GIVE THAT TO US? UM, YES, BECAUSE SURE. 
          IF YOU CAN GIVE THAT TO US RIGHT NOW, LIKE, EMAIL IT TO US OR MAKE COPIES FOR US RIGHT NOW SO WE CAN HAVE IT, SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE PART OF MY CONCERN THEN IS WHAT, UM, MY CONCERN IS THE FIRE RADIO SECTION. 
          WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S ONE, LET ME, LET ME FINISH ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BOTH RADIOS PASSED THE MILITARY SPECS MM-HMM. 
          , UM, WHICH ARE THE STANDARD SPEC SPECIFICATIONS THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE, THE MOTOROLA RADIO PERFORMED BETTER ON THE FIRE SPECIFIC TESTING. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THAT WAS THAT, THOSE WERE THE TWO CONCLUSIONS FROM THE SOUTHWEST RESEARCH REPORT. 
          PART OF THAT PROBABLY PLAYS INTO, UM, THE ERGONOMICS AND THE DESIGN, THE FORM OF THE RADIO, THE, THE, THE MOTOROLA RADIO ITSELF. 
          WE SAW THAT, UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER LARGE METRO AREAS, UH, SOME OF WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT, THAT THE, THE EVALUATION TEAM WENT TO GO VISIT, WHERE YOU HAVE HARRIS SYSTEMS AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS UTILIZING A MOTOROLA RADIO. 
          UM, CERTAINLY I THINK THAT PROBABLY FROM A FIRE RADIO PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S AN INCLINATION, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE, THE FEEL OF IT AND THE DESIGN OF IT THAT IT IS, IT IS BETTER DESIGNED FOR FIREFIGHTER USAGE. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT WAS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE, UH, GOT FROM THE SOUTHWEST RESEARCH REPORT. 
          SO, AND, AND ALSO IF YOU CAN PROVIDE US WITH THE INFORMATION OF WHAT THE FIELD ANALYSIS, THOSE, THOSE PLACES THAT YOU VISITED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WHAT THEY ALSO, WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK TO YOU WAS FOR BOTH, UM, FOR ALL FOUR CITIES, I GUESS IT WAS. 
          SO FOR THE FOUR CITIES, IF YOU COULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO US AS WELL, BECAUSE SEEING SLIDE NUMBER 33, AND WE KNOW THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE ISSUE, BUT WE'RE S WE'RE BUYING THIS PRODUCT, YOU'RE PROPOSING THIS PRODUCT, AND YET WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUY THE RADIOS. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA BUY, WE COULD OR COULD NOT BUY THE RADIOS RIGHT NOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEN WHAT ARE WE BUYING RIGHT NOW? WE'RE ESSENTIALLY BUYING A CONTRACT FOR SOME RADIOS IN THE FUTURE, BUT WE JUST DUNNO WHICH ONES WELL, REMEMBER WE'RE FOUR. 
          WHAT'S GOTTA HAPPEN FIRST IS THE PROJECT, OR IS THE SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATION? SURE. 
          SO OVER THE NEXT 42 MONTHS, WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA BUY ANY RADIOS. 
          UH, ONCE THE COUNCIL APPROVES THIS, BECAUSE THE SYSTEM HAS GOTTA BE BUILT, RIGHT? OVER TIME, AS WE GET CLOSER, WE'LL BE BUYING RADIOS. 
          AND SO THIS, THIS HARRIS RADIO THAT IS IN DESIGN, UM, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          UHHUH FAN, I JUST ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE RADIOS, THE HANDSETS ARE JUST ONE PART OF IT. 
          IT'S REALLY THE IMPLEMENTATION AS, AS ERIC MENTIONED EARLIER, REPLACEMENT OF OUR ENTIRE, THEY CALL IT E DAC SYSTEM. 
          SO WE'RE MOVING TO A P 25 SYSTEM. 
          THAT MEANS WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING TOWERS, BOTH BUILDING NEW TOWERS, RIGHT? UM, LEASING NEW TOWER SPACE. 
          WE'RE GONNA BE ENHANCING COVERAGE EVEN WITH INSIDE THE CITY. 
          SO WE'VE GOT A BROADER COVERAGE AREA IN TERMS OF SQUARE MILES, BUT ALSO MORE PENETRATION INTO BUILDINGS. 
          THAT WAS IMPORTANT SURE. 
          FOR OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PERSONNEL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UM, THEY 
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DESCRIBE IT TO ME, CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS HAVE CHANGED. 
          SO GETTING RADIO SIGNALS INTO SOME BUILDINGS CAN BE PROBLEMATIC FOR THEM. 
          SO WE'RE ACTUALLY INCREASING THE, THE TYPE OF COVERAGE WE HAVE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , BUT IT'S ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO TOWERS, THE SHELTERS, ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT THAT GOES INTO MAKING THE SYSTEM LIVE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          AND THEN THE RADIOS ARE JUST THE COMPONENT OF THAT. 
          SO I HAVE, UM, SOME MORE QUESTIONS BECAUSE AS, AS YOU TWO KNOW, BUT OTHERS MAY NOT KNOW. 
          UH, HAVING BEEN THE CHAIR OF PUBLIC SAFETY, I'VE SEEN THIS PRESENTATION MANY, MANY TIMES AND LIVED IT, UM, MANY, MANY TIMES IN DIFFERENT C COMMITTEES AND EXECUTIVE SESSIONS, ET CETERA. 
          I DO, I DO WANT TO KNOW, SO HOW LONG IS THIS CONTRACT FOR AND WHAT IS THE TOTAL COST FOR THE ENTIRE, UM, FOR THE ENTIRE THING. 
          SO HOW MANY YEARS IS THIS CONTRACT FOR AND WHAT IS THE, THE CONTRACT TOTAL COST? WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S $80.7 MILLION FOR CAPITAL UHHUH  TO BE EXPENDED OVER A 42 MONTH PERIOD. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND $27.3 MILLION IN OPERATING FUNDS EXPENDED OVER 15 YEARS. 
          NOW THAT IS THE COMBINED CITY, COUNTY C P S NUMBERS. 
          THE 27.3 IS THE COMBINED AND THE 80.7. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS IS ALL TOTAL WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING. 
          SO HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE BREAKOUT OF THE 80.7. 
          SAN ANTONIO WAS SPENDING $47.2 MILLION IN CAPITAL UHHUH OVER 42 MONTHS UHHUH. 
          UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF O AND M, THE $27.3 MILLION, WHICH IS A 15 YEAR NUMBER, UH, IN YEARS ONE AND TWO, THOSE YEARS ONE AND TWO, WE HAVE WARRANTIES. 
          SO THE EXPENSE, THE OPERATIONS EXPENSE IS GONNA BE LESS. 
          REALLY, UH, YEAR THREE IS PROBABLY MORE INDICATIVE OF WHAT A NORMAL YEAR WILL LOOK LIKE, UH, DURING THE TERM OF THAT 15 YEAR CONTRACT AND YEAR ONE STARTS WHEN MM-HMM. 
           AFTER THE 42 MONTHS OR ONCE THE SYSTEM IS, IS ACCEPTED AND LIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I HAD, UM, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON, LEMME THINK. 
          OH MY GOD. 
          OH, I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, THANK THE, UH, THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE TOO, WHO WAS A PART OF IT AND SPENT ALL OF THAT TIME, UM, GOING THROUGH ALL OF THE DETAILS THAT THEY, THEY DID, UH, GO THROUGH RIGHT THERE. 
          AND CAN YOU TELL ME, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING IN ONE OF OUR BRIEFINGS ABOUT, UH, THE CAPABILITY OF THE RADIOS AND TALKING ABOUT THE, THE MERGING TECHNOLOGIES. 
          UM, WELL, EMERGING TECHNOLOGIES. 
          YOU SAID, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A I IS THAT THE P 25, MEANING THE, YOU SAID THAT SOMEBODY COULD PUT A CHIP IN THERE AND THEY COULD USE IT AS A PHONE OR, OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT? UM, NO, THE P THE P 25 IS, UM, IS THE TYPE OF SYSTEM THAT'LL BE BUILT. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO, TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE, THE RADIOS THAT IT COULD BE JUST SWITCHED AND IF THEY NEEDED TO USE IT AS A, THERE, THERE IS A FEATURE WITHIN, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, A HARRIS RADIO. 
          MOTOROLA RADIO, I THINK THIS MAY BE. 
          YES, THAT'S IT. 
          WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT YES. 
          IS THAT WITHIN THE HARRIS RADIO, YOU CAN HAVE A, UH, IT'S AN L T E CHIP TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE AS A, UM, A CELLULAR COMMUNICATION DEVICE. 
          UM, WHERE, UM, AND THAT FEATURE EXISTS IN THE HARRIS RADIO THAT DOES NOT EXIST INSIDE THE MOTOROLA RADIO, BUT THERE ARE APPARATUS OR ATTACHMENTS THAT YOU CAN PLACE ONTO THE RADIO IN ORDER TO DO THAT. 
          SO THERE'S A, THERE'S SLIGHT VARIATION, DIFFERENCES AND CAPABILITIES BETWEEN THE TWO DIFFERENT, UH, MANUFACTURERS. 
          SO I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE SPENT. 
          UM, SO HOW LONG HAS THIS CURRENT CONTRACT BEEN AND WHAT HAS THE EXTENSION BEEN ON THIS CURRENT CONTRACT THAT WE'VE HAD WITH OUR CURRENT VENDOR? AND I KNOW A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO WE HAVE PUT MORE MONEY INTO MAINTENANCE, INTO TOWER MAINTENANCE, ET CETERA. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO HOW MUCH HAS THAT, UM, BEEN? AND I KNOW WE NEEDED TO DO IT ANYWAY AND BUY MORE RADIOS TOO. 
          SO HOW MUCH I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THAT TOTAL NUMBER IS. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE TOTAL FOR THE ENTIRE 15 YEARS, OR ACTUALLY GREATER THAN 15 YEARS. 
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'CAUSE THIS SYSTEM HAS IMPLEMENTED, THE CURRENT SYSTEM WAS IMPLEMENTED IN 2004, UM, OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          WE BROUGHT TO THE COMMITTEE AND INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET THINGS LIKE, UM, UH, REPLACING THE LOGGING RECORDER, WHICH IS A DEVICE THAT LOGS THE 9 1 1 CALLS. 
          UM, THAT WAS RIGHT AROUND I THINK A MILLION DOLLARS OR SO THAT WE SPENT ON THAT, BROUGHT THAT TO COUNCIL A MONTH OR TWO AGO. 
          WE DID SOME FIBER WORK. 
          WE SPENT ABOUT $2 MILLION RUNNING FIBER OUT TO OUR TOWER TOWER SITES, UM, TO ENHANCE, UM, THE CONNECTIVITY TO THOSE TOWERS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THAT WAS SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT. 
          AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE DONE, I THINK TWO DIFFERENT RADIO BUYS WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF OUR RADIOS AND PUBLIC SAFETY WE'RE IN THE 10, 11, 12 YEARS OF LIFE, UM, STAGE. 
          SO WE BROUGHT FOR TO ALL RECOMMENDATIONS ON REPLACING SOME OF THOSE RADIOS, PARTICULARLY THOSE OUT IN THE FIELD RIGHT. 
          FOR OUR PATROL OFFICERS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS. 
          SO WE DID TWO DIFFERENT RADIO BUYS THERE AS WELL. 
          UM, THAT I CAN NEED YOU THE TOTAL ON, AND THOSE RADIOS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE MERGED WITH WHATEVER SYSTEM WE GET RIGHT NOW. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          REMEMBER THE PLAN AT THE TIME WAS THAT, UM, THE, THE, THE LIFE OF A RADIO FOR POLICE OR FIRE IS CLOSER TO SIX OR SEVEN YEARS. 
          AND WE HAD WAY GONE PAST THAT. 
          AND THE IDEA WAS THAT AT THE TIME WHEN WE PRESENTED THE COUNCIL AND THE PURCHASE OF THAT WAS THAT BY THE TIME THESE RADIOS THAT WERE BUYING YOU TWO YEARS AGO, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, UM, BY THE TIME THE NEW SYSTEM COMES ONLINE, THOSE ARE RADIOS THAT CAN BE FILTERED DOWN TO NON-PUBLIC SAFETY AREAS OF THE CITY AND STILL BE NEW RADIOS THAT STILL HAVE USEFUL LIFE. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU'RE, UH, UH, A CODE OFFICER OR YOU'RE USING A RADIO OVER THERE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER, UM, IT CERTAINLY HAS CAPABLE. 
          AND, AND THE RADIOS THAT WE DID BY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO ARE P 25 COMPLIANT AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE, AND THEY WERE AGNOSTIC, WHETHER AT THE END OF THE DAY WE HAD A CENTRAL ELECTRIC OR A DELI WELLS, IT WOULDN'T HAVE MADE ANY DIFFERENCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          'CAUSE THEY WERE, BECAUSE OF THE P 25 NATURE, THE THING THAT THOSE COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT BEN TICKED OFF THE FIBER, THE SHELTER UPGRADES, ALL THOSE THINGS, AGAIN, WERE ALL AGNOSTIC TO WHOEVER WINS ANYWAY, BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEEDED TO DO ON OUR END AND DIDN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT THE SYSTEM ON THE TOP OF THE TOWER. 
          UH, THEY WERE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE WERE REPLACED ON OUR SIDE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND I ACTUALLY DO HAVE THE RADIO BUYS. 
          OH, GOOD. 
          WE DID THREE DIFFERENT RADIO BUYS. 
          WE'VE BOUGHT 2,600 RADIOS TO DATE FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR $11.5 MILLION. 
          AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S JUST A SUBSET OF THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE OR RADIOS THAT WE HAVE WITHIN. 
          WE DIDN'T BUY ANY ON THE CIVILIAN SIDE, BUT THIS IS JUST A SUBSET OF THOSE THAT ARE IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, POLICE AND FIRE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          I'M GONNA YIELD THE FLOOR RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GONNA PUT 'EM IN ORDER FOR YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN VERAN. 
          COUNCILMAN SALDANA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND, UH, ERIC, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          I, I'M, I'M GRATEFUL THAT I JUST HAVE ONE JOB, WHICH IS TO CAST A VOTE. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO GET INTO ALL OF THE MINUTIAE OF THE, THE, THE PLANNING THAT WENT INTO THE SCORING. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO BE AN EXPERT, UH, ON RADIOS. 
          I, I REALLY ALLOCATE THAT DUTY AND RESPONSIBILITY TO FOLKS WHO KNOW THE INDUSTRY, KNOW WHAT THE OPERATION OF ONE OF THESE RADIOS NEEDS TO BE LIKE ON THE FIELD AND LET THEM MAKE THE JUDGMENT. 
          AND I THINK THE DIFFICULT PIECE FOR US IS, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE A NUMBER OF INDUSTRIES, A NUMBER OF FOLKS WHO ARE IN THIS INDUSTRY WHO ARE EACH PUTTING FORTH THEIR BEST FOOT. 
          AND, UH, ALL I CAN, ALL WE CAN DO AS A COUNCIL IS, UH, USE OUR ONE VOTE AND SUPPORTING WHAT WE HOPE IS AN OBJECTIVE PROCESS THAT WE'VE ARRIVED ON. 
          SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF I PULL BACK AND I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBER THAT I MIGHT RUN INTO, IF THEY WERE CURIOUS. 
          SO I'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT RADIOS. 
          WHAT'S GOING ON? DO WE NOT HAVE GOOD RADIO SYSTEMS OUT THERE? WHY DO WE NEED TO UPGRADE IT? I THINK THE BEST WAY THAT I, I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO THEM, AND I HOPE YOU'LL HELP ME DO THIS AND AS I'M TALKING THROUGH THIS, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY TECHNOLOGY CHANGES AND SHIFTS. 
          AND WE'VE HAD TECHNOLOGY WITH OUR RADIOS THAT HAS SUITED US TO DATE, BUT WE'VE KNOWN FOR QUITE SOME TIME THAT WE NEEDED TO UPGRADE THAT TECHNOLOGY. 
          AND, UH, A A BIG PORTION OF THAT, IF I'M TALKING TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, IS THAT WE NEED TO REALLY WORK ON THE BACK OFFICE PIECE. 
          IT'S NOT THE RADIO IN HAND, ALTHOUGH WE'RE GONNA UPGRADE THAT PIECE, BUT THE BIGGEST BULK OF OUR SPEND IS, IS ON THE CAPITAL COST OF THE, THE SYSTEM, IF YOU WILL. 
          NONE OF THE STUFF THAT YOU SEE, UH, THAT OUR FIRST RESPONDERS ARE HANDLING. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT AM I TO ASSUME ABOUT OUR CURRENT SYSTEM AS IT'S IN PLACE? 'CAUSE WE'VE MADE SOME SPENDS ON THE ACTUAL, UH, I THINK $11 MILLION WAS THE NUMBER I JUST HEARD BEN QUOTE ON THE ACTUAL DEVICE. 
          BUT WHAT AM I TO ASSUME ABOUT THE QUALITY OF, OF COVERAGE SIGNAL PENETRATION IN BUILDINGS THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AS TO WHY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A NECESSARY STEP FOR THIS COUNCIL TO TAKE TO UPGRADE? WELL, THERE'S TWO ANSWERS TO THAT, COUNCILMAN. 
          FIRST OF ALL, AND I HOPE I DON'T JINX IT. 
          UH, WE HAVE A VERY RELIABLE SYSTEM LOCALLY 
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AND, AND WE'RE FORTUNATE. 
          UM, YOU CAN GET ONLINE AND GOOGLE AND SEE, UH, PLACES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE CHALLENGES WITH COVERAGE AND UPTIME OF THE RADIO SYSTEM. 
          AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HERE. 
          IN FACT, UM, OVER THE LAST 15 YEARS, UM, WE'VE JUST, THAT'S NEVER BEEN A, A CHALLENGE FOR US LOCALLY. 
          SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DOWNTIME IS 'CAUSE WE'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT LIKE OTHER CITIES. 
          SO WE'RE, WE HAVE A VERY RELIABLE SYSTEM. 
          UM, SECONDLY, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND BEN TALKED ABOUT THE, THIS BIFURCATED PROCESS WE WENT THROUGH ORIGINALLY WAS DO WE EXTEND THE CURRENT LIFE OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM BECAUSE IT'S SO RELIABLE AND IT WORKS AND NOBODY WANTS TO GO POKE IT MM-HMM. 
           OR DO WE REPLACE IT? AND, AND THE TECHNICAL REVIEW WAS THAT IT WAS TIME TO REPLACE. 
          AND THE BIGGEST DRIVER OF THAT IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT SYSTEM IS WHAT'S CALLED P 25 COMPLIANT. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH MEANS THAT ANY TYPE OF, OF RADIO HANDSET CAN BE UTILIZED WITH FUNCTIONALITY ON ANY SYSTEM. 
          UM, WHERE BEFORE, BEFORE NINE 11, MANY OF THE RADIO SYSTEMS WERE TIED TO THE MANUFACTURER RADIO HANDSETS. 
          UM, YOU HAD, UM, IN, IN THE SAME CITY YOU HAD THE FIRE DEPARTMENT OR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON TWO DIFFERENT RADIO SYSTEMS. AND SO THERE WAS A HUGE PUSH IN THE MID TWO THOUSANDS TO, UM, GET LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO BECOME P 25 COMPLIANT. 
          WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT YET. 
          AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FACTORS THAT THE TECHNICAL REVIEW COMMITTEE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT WHEN THEY CAME BACK WITH THEIR, WITH THEIR FIRST CONCLUSION, WHICH IS REPLACE THE RADIO SYSTEM. 
          SO AFTER, AFTER, UH, THE VOTE AND THE FULL 42 MONTH IMPLEMENTATION, WE'LL HAVE MOVED FROM EED DAC TO P 20 ON A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE SYSTEM THAT, UH, THAT S A P D SS A SAN 20 FIRE DEPARTMENT, C P SS SAWS, ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY IN THE AREA WILL ALL BE ON P 25. 
          YES, SIR. 
          GREAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S I SUPPOSE WHAT THE BIGGEST EXPLANATION SHOULD BE TO A LOT OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS AS TO WHY ARE WE SPENDING TIME ON THIS? WHAT, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE RESOURCE FOR, UM, IT'S TO BE COMPLIANT WITH A NEW WORLD OF HOW WE DO THINGS, WHICH IS THAT IF I AM OPERATING ON A SYSTEM WHERE MINUTES AND SECONDS ARE IMPORTANT, RIGHT? THERE SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT DISRUPTS THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH, UH, AN INCOMPATIBLE RADIO SYSTEM. 
          SO I'M, I'M GRATEFUL THAT YOU EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT OF THAT EAC TO P 25. 
          'CAUSE FOR SOME OF US, UH, WHO ARE NOT IN IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE THAT MUCH, UH, SENSE TO US. 
          SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST MOVE INTO THE WORLD AFTER FULLY IMPLEMENTED, UH, UM, WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE BECAUSE OF THIS INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT, I AM I TO ASSUME THAT THAT IS GONNA BE THE GUIDING DOCUMENT FOR WHAT I SHOULD DO AS, UH, AN SS A P D OFFICER OR A C P S PERSON. 
          WHEN I RUN INTO TROUBLE, UM, I LOOK TO THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO FIND WHO'S SUPERVISING, UH, PARTICULAR FEEDBACK THAT I NEED TO GIVE TO THE CHOSEN COMPANY. 
          UH, HOW, HOW DOES THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT MANAGE FEEDBACK? HOW DOES IT MANAGE COMPLAINTS? HOW DOES IT MANAGE, UH, CHANGES IN SYSTEMS? SO INTERNALLY TO THE OPERATIONS DEPARTMENTS, UH, THE OPERATING DEPARTMENTS, THERE WON'T BE ANY CHANGE. 
          RIGHT NOW. 
          THEY, THEY RELY UPON THE, UH, RADIO, UH, DIVISION OF THE IT DIV, UH, I I T S D. 
          SO THEY WON'T HAVE THE, THE OPERATIONS FOLKS WON'T HAVE TO, UM, KNOW THAT PART. 
          THEY CAN KEEP DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING BECAUSE INTERNALLY OUR ORGANIZATION IS GONNA MAINTAIN THAT DIRECT CONNECT TO THE OPERATING DEPARTMENTS. 
          WHAT WILL CHANGE THOUGH, UM, SLIGHTLY IS THAT WE HAVE THE INTRODUCTION OF A THIRD MAJOR, UH, CONTRIBUTOR AND OWNER OF A SYSTEM C P S. 
          HMM. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, UH, HAVE BEEN OPERATING UNDER AN INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT SINCE UNDER THE EXISTING SYSTEM. 
          UM, WE, UM, KNOW EACH OTHER WELL. 
          UM, AND, UM, I FULLY EXPECT THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES ARE MAKING SURE THAT THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE AND THE COUNTY DEPARTMENTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF AND, AND THEIR NEEDS ARE MET. 
          THE CITY REPRESENTATIVES ON THAT COMMITTEE WILL MAKE SURE THAT FROM A CITY STANDPOINT, OUR NEEDS ARE MET. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK IT'S GONNA FOCUS AND, AND RELY HEAVILY ON THE FACT THAT WE ALL HAVE A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT THAT SYSTEM IS UP AND RUNNING. 
          THAT THAT SYSTEM IS MAINTAINED, THAT THAT SYSTEM CAN BE SHARED WITH OTHER ENTITIES, UH, GOING, UH, ONCE, ONCE IMPLEMENTED WITH THE THREE MAIN AGENCIES. 
          SO, I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT PROBABLY, UM, THERE ARE, UM, THE INTRODUCTION OF THAT THIRD MAJOR, UH, PARTY, UH, WILL ACTUALLY BENEFIT AND HELP US KEEP, UH, UH, HONEST WITH EACH OTHER IN TERMS OF HOW WE SHARE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          NOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, BECAUSE WE PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY SERVICES TO 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE, UH, THROUGH POLICE AND FIRE, AND WE'RE THE MAJORITY OF THE TALK TIME AND WE'RE PUTTING IN THE MAJORITY OF THE MONEY, 
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AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CITY HAS THE RESPONSIBILITY, WE'VE, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY. 
          AND, UM, UM, THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD WITH C P S AND, AND THE COUNTY, AND MAKING SURE THAT THEIR INPUT CERTAINLY IS RELATIVE AND THERE IS A SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UM, WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY WITHIN OUR IT DEPARTMENT WHO WILL BE THE, THE, UH, THE RADIO LEAD, UM, AND BE RESPONS HAVE TO BE RESPONSIVE TO ALL THE AGENCIES. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, IF ANY ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES HAS SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT THE SYSTEM, MAYBE IT'S NOT WORKING FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, THE, HOW, HOW DO THEY SURFACE THAT LEVEL UP? I MEAN, YOU'VE DESCRIBED AN IT DEPARTMENT WHO'S TROUBLESHOOTING, UH, INCIDENTS ON THE FIELD THAT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH SIGNAL OR RECEPTION. 
          UH, EACH ONE OF THESE AGENCIES WHO ARE PART OF THE I L A WILL COME TO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S GEEK SQUAD, OR IS IT SOMEBODY ELSE'S TO THE, TO THE CITY? THERE'S, THERE'S NOTIFICATIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE CITY BECAUSE LET'S SAY THAT, UM, AND THIS WAS A BIG TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IN THE FALL WITH THE, WITH THE OTHER PARTIES, LET'S SAY THAT, UM, UM, C P S LINESMEN ARE HAVING A PROBLEM ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE OF TOWN IN THIS POCKET AREA. 
          AND, UM, THEY'RE NOT LETTING THE CITY KNOW WHERE WE CAN CONNECT THE DOTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRE STATIONS AROUND THAT AREA MM-HMM. 
           AREN'T HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. 
          IS IT A, IS IT A RADIO HANDSET ISSUE OR IS IT A SYSTEM ISSUE? COULD IT BE A TOWER ISSUE? SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT TROUBLESHOOTING IS, IS COORDINATED. 
          UM, THEY'LL ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, UH, FROM A RESPONSIVE STANDPOINT, THE VENDOR NEEDS TO BE RESPONSIBLE TO TO, TO THOSE ISSUES. 
          EVERY TIME BEN STANDS UP, I FIGURE I'D FIGURE OUT SOMETHING. 
          , LET'S SEE WHAT BEN'S GOT TO SAY. 
          JUST, JUST THAT OTHER PART WAS UNDER THE INTERLOCAL. 
          WE DO HAVE SEVERAL COMMITTEES THAT ERIC TALKED ABOUT EARLIER. 
          I SAW ONE'S A JOINT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. 
          SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN TROUBLESHOOTING IN THE FIELD, BUT THE PAR THE, UH, THE PARTIES WILL GET TOGETHER ON A REGULAR BASIS, THAT BEING THE COUNTY C P S ENERGY AND US, THAT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE WILL LOOK AT ALL OF THOSE KINDS OF, OF ISSUES. 
          IS THE SYSTEM OPERATING THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE? THEY'LL BE LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE REPORTS, UH, PERFORMANCE METRICS. 
          SO THEY'LL HAVE A LOT OF CHANCE TO DIALOGUE AT THAT LEVEL OF THE JOINT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. 
          AND THEN THERE IS THE, I'M GONNA SAY IT WRONG, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THE ADVISORY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THAT ALSO, UM, WILL HAVE FEEDBACK COMING UP FROM THE JOINT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE. 
          SO THAT GOVERNANCE STRUCTURE'S GOING TO FACILITATE A LOT OF DIALOGUE, UH, AMONG THE PARTIES, UM, AND, AND THE USERS OF THE SYSTEM. 
          SO THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL AS WELL. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST TWO MORE QUESTIONS, ERIC. 
          UH, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCEPT OF A, THE BURN POLICY. 
          IS THAT LIKE A 60 DAY OFF RAMP, IF WORST CASE SCENARIO THINGS DON'T GO WELL, WE WANT TO PULL BACK FROM THE CONTRACT? IS THAT WHAT I'M, YEAH, IT HAS TO BE UP AND RUNNING FOR 60 DAYS FOR EVERYBODY WITH NO MAJOR ISSUES OR, UM, SYSTEM INTERRUPTIONS, UM, BEFORE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S PRIOR TO SYSTEM ACCEPTANCE. 
          SO IT'S THAT, SO AFTER THE 42 MONTHS, THEN IT'S AT THE VERY END OF THE 42 MONTHS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, IT'S GOTTA WORK. 
          AND, AND AS PART OF THE RETAINAGE THERE, UH, WE'LL BE HOLDING, UH, 14% OF THAT CAPITAL COST, WHICH IS A LITTLE OVER $11 MILLION. 
          UH, AND NOT PAYABLE, UH, UNTIL, UM, ALL THE PARTS C P S, THE COUNTY, WHETHER YOU'RE DOWNTOWN OR YOU'RE WAY OUT BY GOVERNMENT CANYON, UM, THAT, THAT, UH, IT WORKS FOR ALL THREE PARTIES AND WHO'S GOT THE EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY, THE COMMITTEE, THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, TO DECIDE THAT, UH, AFTER 60 DAYS, THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE REPORT OF THAT, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE IS TO OVERSEE THE DEPLOYMENT. 
          SO I SUSPECT THAT THOSE REPORTS, UH, WILL BE COMING THROUGH THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE, THROUGH THE I L A. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, THAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. 
          YEAH. 
          AND HOPEFULLY THINGS GO WELL. 
          SO, UH, JUST TO GO BACK TO THE, UH, CAN WE, CAN WE LOOK AT THE MATRIX REALLY QUICKLY? BECAUSE I KNOW INEVITABLY WHAT HAPPENS IS THERE'S, THERE'S A, A CHOSEN, UH, WINNER OF THE PROCESS HERE, AND THEN THERE'S A PERSON WHO COMES IN SECOND WHO REALLY IS THEIR JOB IS TO POKE HOLES AT THE PROCESS AND THE MATRIX AND THE SCORING TO REALLY JUSTIFY WHY, UH, ONE TEAM GOT SO MANY POINTS OVER THE OTHER. 
          AND I THINK THE ONLY, THE ONLY INTERESTING POINT THAT I HEARD WAS ONE IN WHICH IT SAID THAT IF YOU HAD EXPERIENCE AS THE PREDOMINANT FACTOR IN YOUR SCORING, THEN YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE A INCUMBENT ADVANTAGE THAT IS BUILT INTO THE PROCESS AND THE SCORING. 
          AND, AND I, I'D SAY, OKAY, I, I BUY THAT. 
          SO LET'S, LET'S GO THROUGH THIS THOUGHT EXPERIMENT. 
          WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE SECOND PLACE WINNER, AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE SHOWING IT HERE, GOT ALL OF THE EXPERIENCE POINTS. 
          AND THAT'S MAYBE INCLUDING, OR, OR, OR MAYBE THREE OF THE THREE MORE EXPERIENCE POINTS JUST TO QUALIFY THEM TO BE EQUAL, UH, TO THE FIRST PLACE RESPONDENT, IN THIS CASE, DAILY WELLS, GIVE THEM THE THREE POINTS. 
          AT THAT POINT, THEY'RE STILL UNDER, UH, UNDER THE SCORING FOR AS A SECOND PLACE, ACCORDING TO TWO INDEPENDENT, I HOPE, UH, EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND TECHNICAL COMMITTEES WHO SCORED THEM. 
          AND IN WHAT I HEARD QUOTED SOMETIMES A 13 HOUR MEETING 
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OR DISCUSSION. 
          SO I THINK THAT IN SOME CASES WE DEAL WITH THESE CONTRACTS, AND THIS IS A VERY LARGE ONE. 
          UH, I THINK WE'RE IN THE A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF INVESTMENT. 
          THERE CAN BE THIS BACK AND FORTH AS TO, YOU KNOW, WAS THE WINNER, TRULY THE WINNER WAS THE PROCESS CONCRETE? THERE'S A LOT OF OBJECTIVE MEASURES UP THERE, BUT STARTING AT EXPERIENCE AND ABOVE, UH, YOU START TO GET INTO, YOU KNOW, TECHNICAL SCORING AND, AND SOME, SOMEBODY HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION VERSUS, UH, SOMEBODY ELSE ACROSS THE TABLE. 
          AND YOU LET THOSE SCORES PLAY OUT. 
          AND I THINK AS, LIKE, I GO BACK TO WHERE I STARTED, I HAVE ONE JOB, WHICH IS TO, YOU KNOW, VOTE, UH, IN A PUBLIC SETTING WHERE WITH AS MUCH ACCOUNTABILITY AS POSSIBLE TO SAY, WE ARE CHOOSING THE BEST GROUP AND WE'RE NOT CHOOSING THE BEST GROUP BECAUSE WE THINK, YOU KNOW, AND WE LIKE ONE, OR WE KNOW ONE, OR THEY HAVE GOOD FRIENDS WHO WORK FOR THESE COMPANIES, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE COMMITTEES, UH, PROCESS THAT WE TRUST AND WE'VE GONE THROUGH. 
          SO, UM, I THINK THAT WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD POSITION AS A COUNCIL. 
          TWO AND A HALF YEARS IS MUCH TOO LONG. 
          I THINK IT, AND IT WASN'T THE WAY, THE WAY THAT WE PLANNED IT, BUT THAT'S THE RUNWAY WE'VE GONE THROUGH. 
          SO, UH, I THINK WE'RE IN A GOOD POSITION AND YOU GUYS HAVE DOTTED A LOT OF, I'S AND CROSSED A LOT OF T'S TO GET US TO THIS POINT. 
          SO, UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING TO THIS, UH, AND, AND, AND 42 IMPLEMENTATION. 
          BEST TO START IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. 
          42 MONTH IMPLEMENTATION. 
          SO, UH, HOPEFULLY THIS DOESN'T GET DELAYED LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO. 
          THAT'S THE ONLY QUESTIONS I'VE GOT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILMAN SALDANA. 
          COUNCILMAN PLIS. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR ERIC. 
          VERY, VERY THOROUGH. 
          BEN, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK. 
          UM, I, I'M, I'M GONNA PREFACE MY COMMENTS AND, AND DON'T BE SCARED, ERIC. 
          'CAUSE I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES I CROSS, I COME ACROSS AS MERCURIAL, BUT, UH, , UH, IN THIS INSTANCE, I, I HAVE NO BEEF WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE PRESENTED, AND I'M NOT GONNA SECOND GUESS ANY OF THE TECHNICAL SCORING AND ALL THAT. 
          I, MY CONCERNS ARE THAT FOR ME, PRICE IS NOT AN ISSUE. 
          UM, BECAUSE THESE ARE THE RADIOS THAT OUR FIREFIGHTERS USE. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, IN THE MOST EXTREME CONDITIONS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AND IF WE HAVE A TRIGGER OR A BUTTON ON ONE OF THESE THINGS, JAMMING, OR IF IT DOESN'T DO WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO DO IN ONE OF THOSE EXTREME CONDITIONS, UM, ALL THIS PRESENT TRAIT PRESENTATIONS AND SCORING WILL BE FOR NOT, THEY WON'T MATTER. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHEN WE HAVE TO GO EXPLAIN TO ONE OF THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT RADIO. 
          AND SO I'M MORE CONCERNED WITH, YOU KNOW, THE QUALITY AND THE, THE TESTING THAT HAPPENED. 
          SO HOW MUCH DID WE PAY SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE TO DO THIS? OR DID WE PAY THEM? OR DID THE VENDORS PAY THEM? NO, WE PAID THEM. 
          WE, WE PAID THEM. 
          HOW MUCH? 96. 
          $96,000. 
          IS THAT A REPORT THAT THEY PRODUCE, LIKE A FINAL REPORT TO YOU GUYS? IT IS A REPORT, YES, SIR. 
          IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN SEE BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS? UH, YES. 
          I THINK, UH, YES. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          AND DID, UH, BIDDERS GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS REPORT? UH, NO. 
          NO. 
          SO LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISPUTE FINDINGS OR CLARIFY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, WE DID NOT SHARE THE RESULTS OF THAT WITH, UH, EITHER OF THE PROPOSALS. 
          WHY NOT? UH, WELL, BECAUSE, UH, FIRST OF ALL, BOTH, BOTH PROPOSERS, UM, CERTIFIED THAT THEY MET MILL SPECS. 
          SO THE IN SOUTHWEST INDEPENDENT RESEARCH WAS OUR VERIFICATION, AND THEN WE ADDED THE, THE SPECIFIC FIRE TESTING, UM, BECAUSE OF THE VERY ISSUES YOU JUST DESCRIBED, UH, AND WANTED TO, UH, SEE HOW THEY PERFORMED IN VERY HOT CONDITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, THE BOTH, BOTH RADIOS MET MILITARY SPECIFICATIONS AND THE MOTOROLA RADIO PERFORMED BETTER ON THE FIRE CONDITIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, HAS THE COUNTY EXPRESSED, UH, IN WHICH DIRECTION THE WIND IS BLOWING BETWEEN DAILY WELLS AND GENERAL ELECTRIC FOR, OR CENTRAL ELECTRIC, HAVE THEY? WELL, I THINK THAT, UM, UM, AND THE COUNCIL WILL RECALL THAT AS WE NEGOTIATED THE I L A DURING THE FALL, UM, WE WANTED THAT I L A APPROVED, UH, BY THE COUNTY PRIOR TO SCORING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANNA BE IN A POSITION AFTER TWO YEARS, UM, WHERE, UM, THEY WOULD DISAGREE AND, UH, UH, PULL OUT OR MAKE A CHANGE. 
          AND WE'RE SITTING HERE WITH A MATRIX THAT IS NOT USABLE 'CAUSE WE GOTTA GO SUBTRACT OUT, UH, FOUR DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. 
          UM, AND THEN WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS ON OUR PROCESS. 
          POINT B, THEY PARTI THEY PARTICIPATED IN THE PROCESS, SO THEY WERE PART OF THE SELECTION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND RECOMMENDATION. 
          UM, HAVE THEY, YEAH. 
          BUT HAS COMMISSIONER'S COURT EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, UH, A PREFERENCE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER DESPITE THE RECOMMENDATION THAT ONE THAT, 
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THAT, UH, UNLESS THE COUNTY STAFF HAS BRIEFED COMMISSIONER'S COURT, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT, THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED INFORMALLY, THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED. 
          I DOUBT IT HAP IT'S HAPPENED FORMALLY. 
          UH, I I SUSPECT IT'S PROBABLY HAPPENED INFORMALLY OVER THERE. 
          UM, CAN THEY BAIL OUT ON THE I L A AFTER WE VOTE ON AN A SESSION? IN OTHER WORDS, I, I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO PREDICT WHAT'LL HAPPEN IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT WE DO AT A SESSION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, WELL, THE COUNTY IS SURE THEY CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, BUT THE COUNTY'S ON THE SAME SYSTEM THAT EXPIRES IN 2021. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO, UM, AS WAS REPORTED TO THEM IN THEIR PRESENTATION TO THE COMMISSIONER'S COURT ON JANUARY 11TH, UM, THEY WERE ANTICIPATING HAVING TO, THE ESTIMATE THAT I THINK THE COUNTY STAFF GAVE COMMISSIONERS WERE THAT THEY WOULD'VE TO SPEND $75 MILLION TO DO A SYSTEM FOR THEMSELVES. 
          SO I HAD THAT SLIDE UP THERE A SECOND AGO. 
          THE NUMBER THAT THEY'RE SPENDING IN THIS PROPOSAL IS A LOT LESS THAN $75 MILLION. 
          SO, UM, WALK ME THROUGH WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY BAIL? WALK ME THROUGH WHAT HAPPENS TO US IF THEY BAIL? DOES THAT COST US MORE TOO, THEN, OR NO? ARE WE LOCKED INTO THIS PRICE? WELL, UM, WE'RE LOCKED INTO THIS PRICE, BUT I SUSPECT THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO, UM, RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT. 
          THERE ARE ANTENNAS AND TOWERS THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE REQUIRED OUT IN THE COUNTY. 
          UM, THERE WOULD BE SOME COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE C P SS IS A PARTNER AND THEIR COVERAGE, UM, IS, UH, BEYOND THE COUNTY, UH, LIMITS. 
          SO I, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE COVERAGE REQUIREMENTS, THE RISK APPORTIONED, UH, WAS APPROPRIATE MINUS THE COUNTY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, UM, AGAIN, I'M GONNA PAUSE HERE AND REMIND YOU THAT, UH, NOBODY SHOULD INTERPRET THESE QUESTIONS AS MY, YOU KNOW, LEANING IN ONE DIRECTION. 
          DON'T GET SPOOKED. 
          I'M REALLY NOT TRYING TO POKE HOLES IN THIS. 
          I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, UM, WHEN I DO GET THE REPORT, UH, FROM SOUTHWEST RESEARCH, IS THAT GONNA BE HANDED TO ME WITH THE REQUEST THAT IT STAY IN MY OFFICE? OR IS THAT A, I MEAN, OR IS IT TODAY THAT YOU GUYS ARE PUBLISHING THAT TO THE, TO THE BIDDERS AND THE, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A BLACK OP, I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A REPORT THAT'S TOP SECRET AND NOBODY CAN SEE IT. 
          UM, LET ME TRY THAT ONE, COUNCILMAN. 
          UM, THERE PROBABLY WILL BE CONFIDENTIALITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE TEST RESULTS. 
          SO WE PROBABLY WILL, UH, ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, NOT TO DISCLOSE THAT PUBLICLY. 
          'CAUSE UH, SOUTHWEST RESEARCH JUST HAVE PROPRIETARY INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          AND THEN GOING BACK TO YOUR QUESTION ON THE COUNTY, UM, AS THE MANAGER STATED, THE WHOLE PREMISE OF FOLLOWING THE PROCESS WE DID WITH THE I L A WAS WITH THE FULL EXPECTATION THAT THE COUNTY CANNOT BACK OUT, THEY CANNOT BACK OUT UHHUH, UH, OF THE I L A BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT WE DID TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, ANDY, THAT'S HELPFUL. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, ONE QUESTION I HAVE, UH, ERIC, REGARDING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE COST OF 1.7 MILLION, UM, IS THAT PART, I KNOW THAT'S ALL GENERAL FUND MONEY, AND DOES THAT ALL GO TO PUBLIC SAFETY? IS THAT PART OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET? UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THAT OPERATIONS EXPENSE IS PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          BUT, UH, WE HAVE RADIOS AT THE AIRPORT. 
          WE HAVE RADIOS AT CONVENTION CENTER. 
          WE HAVE RADIOS AND OTHER NON-PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, OPERATING DEPARTMENTS, ANIMAL ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, CODE COMPLIANCE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO THE MAJORITY OF IT IS PUBLIC SAFETY IN NATURE, BUT, UH, BUT NOT ALL OF IT. 
          AND, AND HOW IS IT THEN BROKEN DOWN IN TERMS OF FUNDING SOURCE? FUNDING SOURCE, AND THEN DOES IT GO SPECIFICALLY TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUDGET? OF THE 67% THAT WE'RE TRYING TO STAY WITHIN, WE CAN, UM, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A TABLE THAT BREAKS IT OUT BY, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY VERSUS NON-PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND THEN BY GENERAL FUND, AIRPORT, HOTEL, MOTEL, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A CHART. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT MIGHT BE, UM, UH, GOOD TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET, UH, PROCESS A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE YEAR. 
          UM, ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE TWO COMPANIES, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT BOTH COMPANIES COULD DO A GREAT JOB. 
          I THINK THERE WAS NO CONCERN ABOUT ONE COMPANY NOT BEING ABLE TO DO THE JOB. 
          UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE HAS TO BE A WINNER AND THERE HAS TO BE A LOSER IN THERE SCORES. 
          UH, AND THERE, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS SO MUCH WITH THE SCORES, BUT, UM, I, I AM CURIOUS AND I HOPE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER OR IF THE COMPANY'S ANSWER THE QUESTION, WHY DOES DAILY WELLS HAVE A MUCH LARGER CAPITAL COST IF THEY'VE BEEN THE VENDOR FOR ALL THESE YEARS VERSUS CENTRAL LEC ELECTRIC THAT SHOWS A LOWER CAPITAL COST? ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          AND THEN O AND M COST ALSO, LIKE PRETTY DISTINCT. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, SEEMS, 
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SEEMS THAT THE COMPANY THAT'S BEEN HERE WOULD HAVE A LOWER CAPITAL COST. 
          LET ME, UH, THIS IS OM SOLOMON. 
          HE WAS, UH, THE CITY'S CONSULTANT, UH, FROM ATE. 
          AND I THINK HE CAN GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE DIFFERENCES, MAIN DIFFERENCES IN THIS PROPOSALS. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MAYOR, UH, THERE'S VERY LITTLE IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE REUSED EVEN IF THE INCUMBENT WERE TO CONTINUE, UH, SUPPORTING OUR SYSTEM IN THE FUTURE, UH, IN THE FUTURE SYSTEM. 
          UM, I GUESS I'D RATHER, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M CAPABLE OF COMMENTING ON THE DISCOUNT MARGIN THAT THE VENDORS USE AND WHERE THEY APPLIED IT. 
          SO IT'S REALLY UP TO THEM TO HAVE DECIDED WHERE TO GIVE US THE DISCOUNTS. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE IN ONE CASE WHERE YOU SAW THE LOWER NUMBER, THAT COMPANY DECIDED TO GIVE A LARGER DISCOUNT ON THE CAPITAL PHASE, BUT PERHAPS WASN'T AS AGGRESSIVE ON THE OPERATING COSTS. 
          THAT'S PROBABLY THE LARGEST FEATURE. 
          UH, THE SECOND ASPECT IS, UM, WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE PLAN. 
          SO ONE VENDOR IS LEASING A LOT MORE PRIVATE SITES. 
          SO OVER 15 YEARS, IF YOU'RE RENTING ESSENTIALLY SPACE ON 12, 13 TOWERS, THAT STARTS ADDING UP. 
          SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY YOU ALSO SEE THE HIGHER OPERATING COSTS ON ONE OF THE OTHER VENDORS OR ON THE SELECTED VENDOR. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE EQUIPMENT'S ALL THE SAME, RIGHT? I MEAN, ALL THE EQUIPMENT'S THE SAME. 
          THE LIST PRICE OF ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS COMPARABLE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I DO COMMEND AS, AS BURDENSOME AS, AS LENGTHY AS THIS PROCESS MIGHT HAVE SEEMED. 
          I COMMEND THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND CCP SS FOR HAVING GONE THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS. 
          AND I THINK THAT SHOWED IN, UH, THE AGGRESSIVENESS OF THEIR PRICE. 
          SO IT'S HARD, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO INDEPENDENTLY COMMENT ABOUT WHAT STRATEGIES THEY USED AND HOW TO PLACE THEMSELVES. 
          IT IS TRUE THAT THE LIST PRICE, UH, OF BOTH PRODUCT IS COMPARABLE TYPICALLY. 
          AND, UM, OKAY. 
          AND SO, AND YOU, IT, IT'S, I THINK IT'S IN ONE OF THESE SLIDES HERE, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S DEPRECIATING COSTS THAT SOME OF THESE PRODUCTS WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED, SPECIFICALLY THE HANDHELDS MM-HMM. 
          , AND THE PARTS THAT ARE MORE MOBILE, UM, IN THE END OVER TIME, WOULD ONE BE, OR WAS AN ANALYSIS DONE ABOUT ONE BEING MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHER BECAUSE PERHAPS THERE WAS A GREATER INVESTMENT IN CAPITAL COSTS AND LESS IN O AND M COSTS? IT WAS INDEED A FACTOR THAT WAS CONSIDERED. 
          AND AS PART OF, UH, THE DUAL VENDOR NEGOTIATIONS PROCESS, WE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE A LONG-TERM DISCOUNT WITH BOTH VENDORS KNOWING THAT YES, AT SOME POINT, EVEN THOUGH WE DO HAVE A SYSTEM FOR 15 YEARS, AS ERIC SAID, THE LIFETIME, THE LIFE, THE USABLE LIFESPAN OF THE ACTUAL RADIO DEVICES IS SHORTER. 
          SO WE DO EXPECT TO REPLACE THEM, LET'S SAY HALFWAY THROUGH THAT 15 YEARS. 
          UM, SO IT'S A FACTOR THAT WAS CONSIDERED, UM, PERHAPS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AS WE HAD THE REST OF IT. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE ANCILLARY COSTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FUND SEPARATE FROM WHAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PAY THE VENDORS. 
          SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE PRETTY EASY TO QUANTIFY, AND WE CONSIDER THAT AS PART OF THE ANALYSIS, BUT TO, TO BE SPECULATIVE ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND EIGHT YEARS DOWN THE LINE ON A DEVICE THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO, WHAT, WHAT SERVICES IT'S GONNA DELIVER WAS GONNA BE HARD. 
          BUT WE DID GET A FIXED DISCOUNT FROM BOTH VENDORS, WHATEVER THAT DEVICE WAS GONNA BE, AS LONG AS IT REPLACES THE SAME FUNCTIONALITY. 
          DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? UH, YES. 
          I, I THINK SO. 
          UM, I, I, UNDER, I I THINK I UNDERSTAND. 
          'CAUSE I WOULD IMAGINE, RIGHT. 
          UM, THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THE SHORT TERM MM-HMM. 
           BENEFIT VERSUS THE LONG TERM IF A PRODUCT IS, ALTHOUGH I KNOW THAT THESE PRODUCTS HAVEN'T CHANGED MUCH IN PROBABLY 30 DECADES, 30 YEARS. 
          THEY'RE, OTHER THAN THE SIZE, UM, THAT THE, PERHAPS THE COST OF WHICH THE REPLACEMENT COST WOULD BE FACTORED, I IMAGINE IT'S FACTORED IN HERE SOMEWHERE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE, IT'S A FACTOR THAT WAS CONSIDERED THE ACTUAL REPLACEMENT COST OF THE DEVICES SOMETIME DOWN THE LINE WAS NOT ENTIRELY INTEGRATED INTO THIS COST ANALYSIS, BUT WE MADE SURE THAT WE GOT AN AGGRESSIVE DISCOUNT FROM BOTH VENDORS WHEN ENOUGH WE DO WANNA REPLACE, UH, WHOLESALE. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          WELL, I LIKE COUNCILMAN VIGON HAVE BEEN HEARING THIS ONE FOR QUITE A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, AND WE KNOW THAT IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS COUNCILMAN BEIS, UH, POINTED OUT. 
          UH, WE DON'T WANT TO TAKE ANY RISKS WITH EQUIPMENT WHEN, UM, PEOPLE'S LIVES ARE AT RISK. 
          SO WE DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE THE BEST EQUIPMENT REGARDLESS OF THE COST, UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SUCH A HIGH COST OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. 
          UM, AND, UH, I, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AND PUT IT OUT HERE FOR MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES IS BECAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A TWO YEAR PROCESS AND BECAUSE, UM, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE AND THE OTHER VOTING MEMBERS HAVE HEARD FROM THE TWO COMPANIES, I'D LIKE TO, TO ASK TO SEE IF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WOULD BE WILLING TO HEAR ARE TWO, THE TWO COMPANIES COME AND SPEAK, JUST INTERVIEW FIVE MINUTES. 
          UH, 
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KIND OF SIMILAR TO, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE DID WITH THE BARGES, BUT SIMILARLY TO COME UP AND PRESENT THEMSELVES AND, UM, BUT STILL WITH ALL OF THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, UH, THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET FROM THE SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE AND JUST MOVE FORWARD FROM THERE. 
          UH, COUNCILMAN PERRY? THANK YOU, MA'AM. 
          UH, JUST TO, JUST AN OBSERVATION ON THIS AND HAVING DONE THIS DURING MY CAREER, IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A NEW ENTRANT COMING INTO A SITUATION TRYING TO GET INTO THE MARKET, AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE THAT'S ALREADY EXISTING. 
          AND, AND JUST LOOKING AT THE, THE WAITING AND THE CATEGORIES, UH, AND THE TECHNICAL SCORING AND THE PROPOSED PLAN AND, AND, UH, THE EXPERIENCE AND BACKGROUND AND EVERYTHING, UM, YOU KNOW, IS TOWARDS THE COMPANY THAT'S HERE ALREADY. 
          AND IT, I, I REALIZE HOW DIFFICULT IT IS FOR A NEW COMPANY TO COME IN AND, UM, REPLICATE OR BEAT AN EXISTING COMPANY, AN EXISTING COMPANY THAT MAY BE DOING VERY WELL. 
          UM, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YEAH, IT'S, UH, UM, FAIRLY CLOSE ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          AND FOR THEM TO BE THAT CLOSE ON PRICE AT THE END OF THE DAY AFTER TWO YEARS IS PRETTY AMAZING TO ME. 
          AND I, I HAD THE SAME OBSERVATION AS, UH, COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT'S FLIP FLOPPED BETWEEN THE CAPITAL COSTS AND O AND M COSTS. 
          UH, IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. 
          UM, THE, WAS IT, UH, 12 MILLION FOR THE CAPITAL COST AND, UH, ABOUT 12 MILLION FOR THE O AND M, BUT IT'S JUST FLIPPED, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO COMPANIES THERE. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, BUT AGAIN, LOOKING, LOOKING BACK THROUGH, EVEN ON THE TECHNICAL WHERE YOU HAVE THE TOP THREE AREAS ON SLIDE 24 WHERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE, AGAIN, YOU SEE WHERE THE, UM, THE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION AND OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE AND MIGRATION PLAN, THAT'S ALL KIND OF TOWARDS THE EXISTING COMPANY, BUT THE, UH, NEW COMPANY, UH, SCORED BETTER ON THE OVERALL SOLUTION COVERAGE AND SUBSCRIBERS ON THAT. 
          SO, UH, I KIND OF SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE DIFFERENT, UH, UM, UM, CATEGORIES HERE WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THERE IS DIFFERENCES HERE. 
          IT'S, UH, UH, OB OBVIOUS TO ME THAT YEAH, THE, THE, UH, CURRENT COMPANY, UH, UH, KIND OF WON OUT THE DAY AS FAR AS THE COMPETITION AND, UH, WITH A NEW COMPANY TRYING TO GET IN. 
          SO JUST, JUST SOME OBSERVATIONS ON MY, MY PART ON HOW THIS TURNED OUT. 
          BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE INFORMATION. 
          ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          COUNCILMAN PERRY AGAIN TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, TO OUR COUNCILMAN PERRY. 
          I'M SORRY, THAT ONE. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          COUNCILMAN CUR YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN YET. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HOLD YOU COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN CUR. 
          NO, I HAVE SOME, I HAVE SOME WORDS OF WISDOM. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, ERIC, UM, WELL FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMMEND THE STAFF AND ALL THE EVALUATION PARTNERS FOR WHAT LOOKS TO ME, UH, TO BE A, A VERY RELIABLE AND REASONABLY PRICED COMMUNICATION SYSTEM. 
          YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE TOTAL, I THINK, WHICH COMES TO ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE A LITTLE CALCULATING, AND OUR PART OF THAT IS 47.2 MILLION, UH, FOR CAPITAL COSTS. 
          ANOTHER ABOUT 14 MILLION OVER A 15 YEAR PERIOD FOR THE OPERATION OF MANAGEMENT. 
          IT COMES TO ABOUT 51 TO $52 MILLION. 
          IF YOU BREAK THAT DOWN ANNUALLY, OVER 15 YEARS, IT'S ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. 
          AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT WE'RE GONNA BE SUPPORTING, UH, THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF, OF OF PHONES, HOW MANY FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, HOW MANY RADIOS? 700, PARDON ME, SAY 7 0, 0, 6700. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE, UH, COMING OUT TO SOMEWHERE AROUND $600 ANNUALLY. 
          NOW I'VE GOT AN IPHONE IN MY POCKET AND IT COSTS ME MORE THAN THAT JUST TO SUPPORT THAT EVERY YEAR. 
          AND THIS IS A MUCH MORE IMPORTANT PRODUCT THAT THE CITY IS PURCHASING. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF BRING THAT TO EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION THAT YES, THIS IS A BIG NUMBER, BUT WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN TO WHAT IT MEANS TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING THESE THINGS EVERY DAY, UM, IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT LET'S NOT GET TOO HUNG UP ON ALL OF THIS COST. 
          'CAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY AFFORDABLE FOR THE CITY. 
          THERE WAS ONE OTHER 
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QUESTION I HAD THOUGH, AND THAT IS, IF, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO GO WITH VENDOR NUMBER TWO, UH, YOU KNOW, CAPITAL ELECTRIC, WOULD THE CONTRACT REMAIN AT THE SAME PRICE? UM, YES, BUT OUR ASSUMPTION WOULD BE YES. 
          UH, BECAUSE THAT, THAT PRICE THAT YOU SAW ON THAT SLIDE WHERE THEY'RE ABOUT $18,000 APART, UM, THOSE, THOSE NUMBERS CAME FROM THE BEST AND FINAL OFFERS THAT BOTH COMPANIES SUBMITTED TO, UH, THROUGH THE SOLICITATION AT THE END OF SUMMER. 
          SO THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE ABOUT 18,000 YES, SIR. 
          OUT OF, AND IS THAT OUR SHARE, OR WOULD IT BE EVEN WEST'S OUR SHARE, OUR LESS OUR SHARE. 
          IT'S 18,000 WAS TOTAL OUT OF THE, AND IF OUR SHARES CLOSER TO 60% THAN 60% OF THE 18,000, THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MUCH LESS. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE TO THE CITY IF WE WERE TO GO WITH A DIFFERENT VENDOR. 
          CORRECT. 
          THE LAST THING I WANTED TO ASK IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES AND, UH, HOW IT'S MOVING SO RAPIDLY. 
          WHAT AVENUES FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT TECHNOLOGICAL ENHANCEMENTS OR ADVANCES DO WE HAVE IN THIS AGREEMENT? BECAUSE ARE WE GONNA REALLY LOCK OURSELVES INTO A CERTAIN FORMAT FOR 15 YEARS, THE WAY TECHNOLOGY CHANGES? CERTAINLY IT'S CHANGED A LOT IN THE 15 YEARS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE PASSED. 
          SO IS THERE ANY OPTIONS IN THERE TO COVER ANYTHING LIKE THAT? WELL, I, I'LL ANSWER THE LAYMAN'S PORTION OF THAT NESS, UH, O MNA TO TALK ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY STANDPOINT. 
          UM, THE P 25 BACKBONE OF THE SYSTEM, WHETHER IT'S A MOTOROLA SYSTEM OR A HARRIS SYSTEM, THAT BACKBONE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND GIVES YOU US ANY OTHER PLACE IN THIS COUNTRY, THE ABILITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FUNCTIONALITIES THAT COME WITH THE RADIOS FROM DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS, UH, ACCESSORIES THAT PLUG INTO THE RADIOS. 
          UM, SO BY MOVING TO A P 25 SYSTEM, WHETHER NO MATTER WHO THE MANUFACTURER IS BECAUSE OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN PLACE, WE WILL HAVE THAT FUNCTIONALITY. 
          NOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE AND HOW WE BEST POSITION OURSELVES, I'LL, I'LL LET MNA FROM, FROM HIS STANDPOINT KIND OF ANSWER THAT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S QUITE AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE CLEARLY, I MEAN, IT'S A TECHNOLOGY FIELD, SO IT'S GOING TO EVOLVE IN SOME CASES QUICKLY, IN SOME CASES SLOWLY. 
          UH, PUBLIC SAFETY ALWAYS NEEDS TO USE SOMETHING THAT IS WELL PROVEN STABLE AND CAN, THEY CAN RELY ON, YOU KNOW, UH, IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME WHEN THEY NEED IT. 
          SO WE'LL PROBABLY ALWAYS BE A SLOW ADOPTER OF NEW TECHNOLOGY. 
          UM, SO THAT GIVES US SOME CONFIDENCE THAT AT LEAST FOR THE FIRST 60 TO 70% OF THE LIFETIME OF THIS CONTRACT, THIS WILL BE THE PRIMARY SYSTEM THAT WE WILL USE FOR VOICE COMMUNICATIONS. 
          UM, THERE ARE INDEED SOME FEDERAL PROGRAMS THAT WERE HATCHED A FEW YEARS AGO THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE PANACEA OF ALL THINGS PUBLIC SAFETY, COMMUNICATIONS, INTEROPERABILITY. 
          UM, AND THAT'S A, SO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ESTABLISHED WHAT'S CALLED FIRSTNET, WHICH IS A, A PROGRAM THAT IS STRUCTURED MUCH LIKE U S P S, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING TO DELIVER, UM, COMMUNICATIONS CAPABILITIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          UH, THEY, THEY CONTRACTED THIS PROCESS OUT TO AT AND T. 
          SO WE'RE QUITE EARLY ON IN THAT PROCESS TO EVEN SPECULATE ON HOW THAT WILL REPLACE THIS TYPE OF SYSTEM. 
          UH, SO MORE THAN LIKELY, WHAT WE'LL SEE IS AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 11 YEARS, AND I KNOW THAT'S A HUGE RANGE, WE'LL START SEEING BOTH TECHNOLOGIES BE ADOPTED IN PARALLEL AND MAYBE TOWARDS THE LATTER END OF THIS CONTRACT, WE MIGHT SEE FOLKS SLOW, GRADUALLY MOVE ON TO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. SO I THINK IN, IN, IN SHORT, THERE ARE, THERE ARE TECHNOLOGY ADVANCES. 
          UH, I THINK VOICE COMMUNICATIONS IS CRITICAL TO PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND THIS IS THE ONLY SYSTEM THAT WE KNOW OF NOW THAT WILL PROVIDE ALL THE VOICE CAPABILITIES THAT PUBLIC SAFETY NEEDS. 
          UM, THE OTHER THINGS WILL PROBABLY BE ADOPTED AS ANCILLARY OR AS COMPLIMENTARY TO THIS SYSTEM. 
          HOW, AND HOW QUICKLY AND WHO WILL TRANSITION TO THAT IS SOMEWHAT EARLY IN THAT PROCESS TO TELL. 
          UM, I KNOW YOU DID HAVE ONE QUESTION ABOUT HOW WELL SUPPORTED ARE WE BY THE FACT THAT THIS CONTRACT WILL ALLOW US TO ADOPT THIS INNOVATIONS? I THINK IT'S PROBABLY IN PARALLEL IF WE DO ADOPT THOSE TECHNOLOGIES, THE VENDOR THAT WE ARE PROPOSING AS THE RECOMMENDED VENDOR WILL ADOPT SOME OF THOSE. 
          BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT FIRSTNET, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT ENTITY FROM DAILY WELLS, WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORTING US WITH SOME OF THOSE OTHER CAPABILITIES. 
          SO WE MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES IN PARALLEL. 
          IT REALLY AN ECOSYSTEM OF TECHNOLOGIES THAT PUBLIC SAFETY USES. 
          SO, UM, WE CAN'T DELIVER EVERYTHING OVER THIS SYSTEM. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU ERIC. 
          UH, JUST TO REFRESH MY MIND AGAIN, THERE'S 11,000 RADIOS THAT EVENTUALLY ARE GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THIS SYSTEM. 
          AND FROM WHAT I BELIEVE YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT, UH, WE'RE NOT FORCED TO BUY ANY ONE PARTICULAR TYPE OF 
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RADIO UNDER THIS CONTRACT FOR FIRE RADIO, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE ESDS. 
          OH. 
          BUT, BUT WE WOULD HAVE ALL HARRIS FOR ALL ARREST OF THE PHONES WE USE FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, FOR, UH, FOR POLICE, FOR OKAY. 
          UH, CONVENTION CENTER. 
          THE ONLY, THE ONLY THING WE BUILT IN THERE WAS THE ABILITY TO NOT BE TIED TO THAT FOR FIREFIGHTER, UH, SS A F D RADIOS. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHICH WOULD EXTEND TO THE OTHER AGENCIES. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT ALL THE PHONE, ALL THE RADIOS ARE, THE COST OF ALL THE RADIOS ARE BUILT INTO THE CONTRACT. 
          WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT AND SPEND MORE MONEY TO BUY THOSE RADIOS, ARE WE? UM, YOU KNOW, AT THE, NO, ALL THE COST IS BUILT IN AT THE END OF THE DAY, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES AS PART OF THEIR TESTING AND HOW THE, UH, RADIOS, UH, PERFORM, UH, THERE COULD BE A COST. 
          BUT, AND, AND SO IF, IF HARRIS GETS THE CONTRACT, BUT THE FIREFIGHTERS DECIDE THEY REALLY NEED THE MOTOROLA RA RADIOS, HARRIS WILL JUST HAVE TO GO TO MOTOROLA AND BUY IT AND SUPPLY 'EM TO US UNDER OUR CONTRACT. 
          RIGHT? WELL, GIVEN WHO'S IN THE ROOM RIGHT NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, I DON'T, THERE'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS WE COULD PURCHASE THAT. 
          WE COULD GO THROUGH STRAIGHT THROUGH, UH, THE MANUFACTURER. 
          WE COULD GO TO OTHER CO-OPS, PURCHASING CO-OPS IN THE STATE. 
          WE COULD BUY OFF THE STATE CONTRACT. 
          UH, WE'D HAVE TO EVALUATE WHERE DO WE GET THE BEST PRICE, UM, IF WE FOUND OURSELVES IN THAT POSITION. 
          SO THEN THE FIREFIGHTERS, UH, RADIOS ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IF WE BUY THEM FROM HARRIS, THERE'S A PRICE. 
          IF WE DON'T END UP BUYING THEM, THEN THAT'S AN EXPENSE THAT WE'LL HAVE DOWN THE ROAD OUTSIDE THE CONTRACT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT IF WE TELL ARIS WE WANT THE MOTOROLA ONES, WON'T THEY GO OUT AND GET THEM FOR US THAT, UM, WE DON'T KNOW. 
          OR MIGHT THEY ASK THE FOR THEY WON? THEY WON'T, WON'T. 
          IT'S, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACT. 
          SO WE'D LOSE THE VALUE OF THOSE, UH, RADIOS. 
          IF WE GO WITH ARIS AND THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DECIDES IT REALLY NEEDS THE MOTOROLA, WE, WE LOSE, WE LOSE THE DISCOUNTS THAT ARE BUILT INTO THAT COUNTRY. 
          RIGHT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK FOR THE RADIOS, AND CORRECT ME ANN, IF I'M NOT SAYING THIS RIGHT, THE, THE, THE RADIOS WE DON'T BUY, WE, WE DON'T GET CHARGED FOR THOSE RADIOS. 
          OH, WE GET OH, OKAY. 
          THAT SAVINGS. 
          I THINK THE POINT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IS THAT THE, THE, THE DISCOUNTS, THE VERY DEEP DISCOUNTS WE GOT BECAUSE OF THE BIG VOLUME THAT WE'RE BUYING. 
          RIGHT. 
          THOSE DON'T CHANGE IF WE OPT NOT TO BUY THE FIRE RADIOS. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT WE WOULDN'T BE BILLED FOR 1600 RADIOS THAT WE'RE NOT BUYING. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. 
          THANKS. 
          I MISSED THAT ONE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          UH, THANK YOU ERIC AND THE COUNTY, UH, OUR TECHNICAL COMMITTEES, ALL THE SCORING COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THIS. 
          IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO FINALLY CLOSE THE BOOK ON THE UPGRADE OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY RADIOS. 
          UH, WE 
          [Executive Session]
DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OR EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETING NOW. 
          SO THE TIME NOW IS MAY 4:15 PM ON THIS SEVENTH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2018. 
          WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION NEXT. 
          UM, PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY GRANTED BY CHAPTER 5 5, 1 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE V T C S, THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW RECESS INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY LEGAL UPDATE RE RELATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY INVESTIGATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY AND LEGAL ADVICE RELATED TO ANTI-HARASSMENT POLICIES PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071. 
          CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY.
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