* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE, AND I AM THE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. MAY WE PLEASE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING? I DON'T THINK WE CAN HEAR THE OKAY. READY TO START? OKAY. [Roll Call:] YOU SO MUCH. UH, PRIOR TO STARTING WITH OUR ITEMS, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETING ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE C 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW SAN ANTONIO. BECCA SLASH DSD ARE BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3. TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES. THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING THE CALL. DURING THE MEETING, TAKE MR. COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS ARE RELATED. STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL. LASTLY, FOR THOSE SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALL, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENT. SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. CHAIR. CHAIR. GO AHEAD. YES. OH, YES. UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND ANY POSTPONE OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS? YES. UM, ITEM NUMBER 20 IS [20. (POSTPONED) 20-3303 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700069 (Council District 4): A request for a change in zoning from "MI-1 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Mixed Light Industrial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "I-1 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" General Industrial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot P-77 and Lot P-77A, CB 4005, located at 11739 South Zarzamora Street and 11265 South Zarzamora Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] POSTPONED. THIS IS THE ITEM ENDING IN SIX NINE, LOCATED AT 1 1 7 3 9 SOUTH SMORE STREET AND 1 1 2 6 5 SOUTH SMORE STREET. THIS ITEM IS POSTPONED AND WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AFTER PROPER REPUBLICATION AND REIFICATION. FOR THE [Items 3 - 5, 8 - 11, 13, 17, 22 - 24] COMBINED HEARING. ITEM NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE THE FOLLOWING ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION. ITEM NUMBER 3, 4, 5, 8, 9, 10 11, 13, 17, 18, 22, 23, AND 24. THESE WILL ALL BE HEARD AFTER BEING READ INTO THE RECORD UNLESS THERE ARE ANY THAT COMMISSION WOULD LIKE TO PULL. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER SIDE. WHAT DID I, I HEARD ITEM 18 ON COMBINED, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THE LIST. YOU [00:05:01] TOOK IT TO INDIVIDUAL, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. BUT I HEARD WHEN, WHEN YOU SAID ON THE COMBINED, I BELIEVE YOU SAID ITEM 18. I DID. I I HAVEN'T, UH, MOVED IT OVER YET, BUT WE HAVEN'T MOVED OVER ON THE SCREEN TO INDIVIDUAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL CHANGES? OKAY, IF THERE ARE NONE, UM, WE'RE READY TO, UH, MOVE ON AND HAVE THOSE, UH, READ INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU MA'AM. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C2 P UC, SIX A TO ID D1 UC. SIX A WITH USE IS PERMITTED IN C1 ABOVE AND A MICRO LOCATED AT 5 1 5 SAN PEDRO AND 5 2 3 SAN PEDRO. THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED TWO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM FIVE POINT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO I B C ONE WAS USED, PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 0 6 STATE STREET, THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM LONE STAR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO R THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 9 0 5 SOUTH SANCO AVENUE, THERE WERE 32 NOTICES. MAIL ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM LAS PALMA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, TO READ THOSE FROM R FOUR C D A H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN ANTIQUE STORE TO R FOUR CD A H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1108 FRESNO STREET. THERE WERE 29 NOTICES MAILED ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE CENTRAL LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER NINE TO ZONE FROM R FIVE H TO R FIVE C D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS AND ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1907 NORTH INTERSTATE 35, THERE WERE 21 NOTICES. MAIL THEN RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 10 TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO C TWO N A CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES. FULL SERVICE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AND THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, HOURS OF OPERATION MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:00 AM 6:00 PM SATURDAYS 8:00 AM TO 5:00 PM AND SUNDAYS 8:00 AM TO 3:00 PM A 15 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND OR USAGE AND NO TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, WIND WAIVERS, TENANTS SNIP OR BANDIT SIGNS. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM CABLE WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 11, TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 80 31 ULA ROAD, THERE WERE 13 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THE STATEMENT OF NON OPPOSITION WAS RECEIVED FROM PIPER MEADOW NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 13, TO REZONE FROM OH TWO A TO C2 A. LOCATED AT 47 19 DRIVE, THERE WERE 18 NOTICES MAILED TO RECEIVE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THE LGO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 17 TO REONE FROM C TWO TO RM SIX WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 9,900 BLOCK OF WESTOVER BLUFF AT PETRANKO ROAD. THERE WERE 41 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 22, TO REZONE FROM L THE M F 18 LOCATED AT 1 4 0 5 0 SOUTHTON ROAD, THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED. EIGHT RECEIVED IN FAVOR, [00:10:01] NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND NONE AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 23 TO REZONED FROM R SIX A O D TO R SIX L A LOCATED AT 2 41 EAST FRENCH PLACE, THERE WERE 41 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. NO RESPONSE FROM TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS IN SUPPORT AND THE LETTER CAN BE READ AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE COMBINED HEARING. ITEM NUMBER 24 TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR H L WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT TWO 15 SOUTH PINTO STREET, THERE WERE 25 NOTICES. MAIL NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. NO RESPONSE FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS IN SUPPORT. AND AGAIN, THERE IS A STATEMENT FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY THAT CAN BE READ AT THE, UH, COMMISSION'S CONVENIENCE. I DO WANT TO GO BACK AND REMOVE ITEM NUMBER 22. I BELIEVE THERE'S A COMMENT TO BE READ ON THAT ITEM. WE'RE GONNA VERIFY THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO DO WE, UH, HEAR THE LETTER BEFORE OR AFTER WE TAKE THE MOTION? I WOULD DO BEFORE CHAIR. OKAY. UM, WILL WE HAVE THE LETTER, PLEASE? OKAY. 22 CAN REMAIN ON. IT WAS NUMBER 21. THAT WAS, OKAY, SO THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY STATEMENT FOR 2 41 EAST FRENCH PLACE, THIS IS ITEM ENDING IN NINE ZERO IN DISTRICT ONE. THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO APPROVES OF THIS OWNER INITIATED REQUEST FOR HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 2 41 EAST FRENCH PLACE. THIS CIRCA 1883 HOUSE IS A FINE EXAMPLE OF FULL VICTORIAN ARCHITECTURE THAT IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE CHARACTER OF ITS OF ITS NEIGHBORHOOD. RESPECTFULLY EXHIBIT PATTY ZOP WITH THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO AND ALSO THE LETTER FOR TWO 15 SOUTH PINTO STREET. THIS IS THE ITEM ENDING IN NINE FOUR. THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO AGREES WITH STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS TO APPROVE THE CHANGE IN ZONING OF TWO 15 SOUTH PINTO STREET TO R FOUR HL. THIS EXQUISITE EXAMPLE OF THE CLEAN AND STYLE REMAINS REMARKABLY INTACT AND SHOULD BE PRESERVED TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE SOUTH PINTO AND BUENA VISTA INTERSECTION. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, HAD ZOFF, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO . THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, SIR. DID WE, DID WE FORGET, UM, ITEM 17 OR DID I JUST MISS THAT? WASN'T THAT ONE ON, ON THE INCIDENT? YES, YOU DID. I I DID. I DO REMEMBER READING ABOUT THE READING IT WEST OVER HILL AT PETO. OKAY. SORRY. R FOUR MM-HMM. . YEP. OKAY. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS AS READ ON THE RECORD AS APPLICABLE FOR ITEMS 3 4 5 8 9 10 11 13 17, 22, 23, AND 24. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S COMMISSIONER SITES SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE ITEMS ON CONSENT, UH, FROM COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WITH A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SIPES. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CA? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE A COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER PSYCH? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE A AND CHAIRMAN MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES, UH, WITH APPROVAL 11 [00:15:01] TO ZERO. OKAY. OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM [1. 20-3239 (Continued from 05/05/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700288 HL (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "RM-4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-4 HL AHOD" Residential Mixed Historic Landmark Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 4 and Lot 5, Block 30, NCB 3036, located at 214 Lotus Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] NUMBER ONE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RMM FOUR AND H O V TO RMM FOUR HL. THIS CASE WAS CONTINUED ON MAY THE FIFTH. IT'S LOCATED AT TWO 14 LOTUS AVENUE. THERE WERE 32 NOTICES. MAIL THREE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THE LACA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE O H T ON THE LINE. NO, NO, I DO NOT. UH, OKAY. AND SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE. THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE TODAY. DO HE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. NO. NO, HE DID NOT. OKAY. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. THANK YOU. UM, SO WE HEARD THIS CASE, UM, TWO WEEKS AGO, AND THE APPLICANT OR THE, UM, PROPERTY REACHED OUT TO, UM, TO ME AND TO THE, UH, DISTRICT ONE, UM, CITY COUNCIL OFFICE AND REQUESTED THIS CONTINUANCE. UM, SO I THINK THAT, UM, IN LIGHT OF BEING FAIR, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT HERE, UM, I THINK THAT WE NEED TO, TO, UH, CONTINUE THIS CASE. UM, I WILL NOT BE HERE, UH, POTENTIALLY IN JUNE. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CAN CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER ONE UNTIL JULY 7TH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR CONTINUANCE TILL, UM, JULY. WHAT WAS THAT? JULY 7TH. JULY 7TH, OKAY. JULY 7TH. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UM, FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? OKAY. ROOM CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE A COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES TO CONTINUE TO JULY 7TH BY VOTE. MAD CHAIR POINT. MR. GIBBONS? YES, MA'AM. I DID HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT LAST ONE. I, ARE YOU ABLE TO SEE ME? I I CAN SEE YOU OKAY. YES. OKAY. MM-HMM. , OH, SORRY, I, I MISSED YOUR HAND. I APOLOGIZE. OKAY, WE'RE READY TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU. [2. 20-3227 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700036 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "I-2 AHOD" Heavy Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MXD AHOD" Mixed Use Airport Hazard Overlay District on 202.807 acres out of CB 4007, generally located between the 11900-12600 Block of IH-37 South. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA2020-11600008) (Justin Malone, Planner (210) 207-0157, justin.malone@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department).] OKAY. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I TWO A H TO M X D A. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11 900 TO THE 12 600 BLOCK OF IH 37 SOUTH OFF OF OLD CORPUS 50 ROAD. THERE WERE 21 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED M X D IS BETTER SUITED TO THE AREA FOR A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT COMPRISED OF COMMERCIAL SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY USES. THERE ARE SOME EXISTING C TWO N P 15 L I ONE, AND I TWO USES IN THE AREA. THE M X D WILL COMPLIMENT THESE USES AND DOWNONE A VERY LARGE 200 ACRE PROPERTY. CURRENTLY ZONED I TWO HEAVY INDUSTRIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT IF, IF THE APPLICANT IS THERE, UM, CAROLINE MCDONALD. CAROLINE, YOU MIGHT NEED TO UNMUTE HERE. ARE YOU? THERE YOU ARE. THERE YOU GO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. OKAY. WELL LOOK AT YOUR COMMENTS TO FIVE MINUTES PLEASE. OKAY. THIS IS KIM BROWN WITH BRIAN ORTIZ, UM, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT, [00:20:01] UH, AND PROPERTY OWNER. UH, THE DEVELOPER FOR THIS PROPERTY IS BITTER BLUE, UH, LAIE BENTON. UM, WE, UH, I WANNA GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ABOUT THIS SITE. UH, THIS AREA WAS, UH, ANNEXED FOR LIMITED PURPOSES IN, UH, AROUND 2000. AND THE WHOLE AREA WAS, WAS REZONED, UH, UNDER LIMITED PURPOSES FOR I TWO. UM, I, I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME THEY, THEY THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE A TOYOTA SPINOFF. UM, AND IT, IT NEVER REALLY OCCURRED, UH, IN 2010. AT THAT TIME, THERE WAS NO SECTOR PLAN, SO THEY JUST REZONED IT WITHOUT, WITHOUT A, A BASELINE PLANNING DOCUMENT. IN 2010, UH, A SECTOR PLAN, UH, WAS DONE FOR THIS AREA AND VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING IN THIS AREA WAS DESIGNATED FOR SUBURBAN TIER, UM, WHICH ALLOWS MULTI-FAMILY, SINGLE FAMILY, AND SOME COMMERCIAL. UM, IN 2017, OUR OFFICE REZONED THIS PROPERTY. UH, WELL, WE BROUGHT IT INTO THE CITY FOR FULL PURPOSE ANNEXATION AND THEN REZONED IT TO I TWO AND CHANGED THE PLAN TO SPECIALIZED CENTER. UH, WE HAD A USER, WHICH IS THE CURRENT OWNER, UH, WHICH WAS A DRILLING COMPANY. AND, UH, THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE EAGLE FORD SHELL. UM, BOOM, I GUESS. UM, THEY WERE NEVER ABLE TO ACTUALLY USE THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF THE DOWNTURN AND OIL AND BECAUSE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STREETS TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY COULD NOT REALLY, UH, ACCOMMODATE INDUSTRIAL, UH, TRAFFIC. AND, UH, THERE IS NO FRONTAGE ROAD, UH, ALONG I 37. UM, SO THEY ARE SEEKING, UH, TO SELL THIS PROPERTY AND TO DEVELOP IT NOW OF LADETTE WITH BLUE TO DEVELOP IT. UM, BUT THAT'S WHY, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING AROUND US IS SUBURBAN HERE. AND AND THAT'S WHY STAFF IS SAYING, EVEN THOUGH MOST OF IT IS OWNED, I TWO, ALMOST NONE OF IT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED. UH, FOR I TWO, IT, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE 10 ACRES, BUT THEY'RE ALL TWO OR THREE ACRE, UH, USERS. THE ONE, UH, USER TO THE SOUTHWEST THAT, THAT DID FIT IN THE LETTER OF OPPOSITION, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, WAS STATING THAT THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE INDUSTRIAL WAS APPROPRIATE NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY. UH, SO WE HAVE MET WITH HIM A COUPLE OF TIMES AND WE AMENDED OUR M X C SITE PLAN TO BUFFER THE SINGLE FAMILY WITH COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE TO THE SOUTH. UH, WE ALSO MET WITH THE EAST CENTRAL I S D THAT HAS A FACILITY THERE AND A SITE THAT THEY INTEND TO USE FOR, UH, A MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND, UH, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE DOWN ZONING, UH, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT THE INDUSTRIAL TRUCK TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THOSE STREETS. UH, AND THEY WERE THE ONES THAT REQUESTED THE, UH, NA NON-ALCOHOL ON THE C TWO PORTION OF OUR SITE. UH, WHICH WE HAVE AMENDED OUR SITE PLAN IN OUR APPLICATION. UM, FOR THESE REASONS, UH, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY RESPECT, UM, REQUESTED SUPPORT. SORRY. UM, WE, WE JUST FEEL LIKE, UM, WE HAVE A CHANCE HERE, UH, TO TAKE OUT A LOT, LOT OF THIS I TWO, UM, WHICH HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED SINCE 2000. UH, AND, AND WE DO THINK THAT, UH, THIS AREA IS GOING TO CHANGE TO MORE OF A MIXED USE. UH, AND FOR THOSE REASONS, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, WE CAN WAIT FOR REBUTTAL, BUT WE DO HAVE, WE'RE AT PA'S OFFICE'S OFFICE SO WE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS, UH, FROM AN ENGINEERING STANDPOINT. AND WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER HERE ALSO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ? UM, ALRIGHT. SORRY, I WAS MUTED. YES, THERE IS A LETTER TO SUBMIT FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. THIS IS FROM JIM KSKY, VICE PRESIDENT OF MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS AT BURKE AND COMPANY LOCATED AT 1 3 1 0 5 DONNA ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 1 1 2. WE OPPOSE THE REZONING PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED CASE, WHICH IS CASE 36. WE [00:25:01] MANUFACTURE STEEL PRODUCTS ON A TWO SHIFT OPERATION. THE EQUIPMENT USED IN METAL MANUFACTURING PRODUCES NOISE THAT CAN BE HEARD OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AT VARIOUS TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT LOADING AND UNLOADING OF TRUCKS AND TRUCK TRAFFIC GENERATES NOISE, AS WELL AS TRAFFIC CONGESTION. STREETS IN OUR AREA. DONNA ROAD AND OLD CORPUS CHRISTY ROAD ARE TWO LANE ROADS CONTROLLED BY FOUR-WAY STOP SIGNS, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OLD CORPUS CHRISTI ROAD AND HIGH HIGHWAY 180 1, WHERE THERE IS A TRAFFIC LIGHT. THE PROPOSED ADDITION OF RESIDENTIAL HOMES WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC LIMITING TRUCK ACCESS TO PLANS LOCATED IN THIS AREA, RESULTING IN TRAFFIC. A ACCIDENTS AS THERE ARE NO TURNING LANES AVAILABLE, THE NOISE AND TRAFFIC CONGESTION WOULD GENERATE COMPLAINTS FROM PROPOSED HOUSING RESIDENTS. WE CHOSE TO LOCATE AT THIS LOCATION TO BE SURROUNDED BY OTHER MANUFACTURERS AVOIDING POSSIBLE COMPLAINTS FROM HOMEOWNERS. WE HAVE BUSINESS AS NEIGHBORS SUCH AS SAND BLASTING AND PAINTING, FIBERGLASS, BOAT MANUFACTURER, HEAVY STEEL BEAM FABRICATION, AND A SIGNIFICANT FUEL AND OIL FIELD DISPUTE, FLUID DISTRIBUTOR, WHICH HAVE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND SOME NOISE AT VARIOUS TIMES OF DAY OR NIGHT. WE BELIEVE THAT THE PROPOSED REZONING CHANGE WILL REDUCE THE VALUE OF OUR UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY AS THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WILL NO LONGER BE ZONED INDUSTRIAL. THANK YOU. AND PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF MY PROTEST. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. HEARING NONE, UM, THAT IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TIME TO RESPOND, UH, LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES, PLEASE. OH, HI. YES. UH, KAREN MCDONALD WAS BROWN ORTIZ, UH, HERE, JUST FOR A QUICK REBUTTAL. UM, AS TIM STATED, WE, WE DID MEET WITH MR. KY MULTIPLE TIMES AND ACTUALLY DID AMEND OUR SITE PLAN MX D PLAN, UM, TO BETTER BUFFER OUR USE TO HIS, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, WE, YOU CAN PLEASE PUT UP OUR M X D PLAN JUST SO THE COMMISSIONERS CAN SEE, BUT WE HAVE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, FIVE ACRES OF COMMERCIAL AND THEN 23 ACRES OF MULTIFAMILY, UM, THAT SEPARATES US FROM HIS PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES BUILDINGS, AND THEN THAT MEANS IT'S ABOUT 500 TO A THOUSAND FEET FROM HIS SITE TO THE NEAREST SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UM, YOU KNOW, PEAK HOUR TRIPS FOR OUR SITE ARE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING, FIVE 30 IN THE EVENING. HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, HE DOES HAVE TWO, UH, TWO SHIFTS AND THAT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN US. I THINK IT, IT'S AT, UH, YOU KNOW, MIDDLE OF THE DAY AND THEN PAST FIVE 30 AT NIGHT. UM, THERE IS, THERE ARE INDUSTRIAL USERS AROUND US, AND THEY ARE PRIMARILY, UH, PAST THE RAILROAD TRUCKS TO THE SOUTH OF US. ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC ARE, MOST OF OUR TRAFFIC WILL BE GOING NORTH, TAKING CORP OLD CORPUS CHRISTI TO 180 1 AND DAWN UP TO 180 1 TO 37. UM, MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE WILL BE MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO THESE TWO ROADWAYS. OUR DEVELOPMENTS GOING TO TAKE ABOUT 15 YEARS, BUT WE WILL BE NOT ONLY ADDING LANES, BUT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS TO, UH, WHAT SOME OF THE INDUSTRIAL USERS, UH, HAVE DONE TO THE ROADWAYS. AND THEY, THEY QUITE FRANKLY, HAVEN'T HAD TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO, TO THOSE ROADS. UM, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WILL BE A CATALYST FOR THIS AREA. UM, IT, IT WILL SPUR, UH, DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS, UH, NOT ONLY MAKING THOSE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, BUT WE ARE TYING SEWERS, UH, ACROSS 37, WHICH DOESN'T EXIST IN THE AREA AT THIS TIME. UM, PLEASE, WE ARE HERE FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE, AND AGAIN, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THIS ZONING CASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THIS IS A, UH, DISTRICT THREE, UH, CASE. AND SO WE'LL UM, START OFF WITH QUESTIONS. AND THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT. SO JUST, UM, LET'S, I KNOW YOU ADDRESSED THIS ALREADY, BUT LET'S, UH, CLARIFY AGAIN. SO THERE ARE, UM, LET'S SEE, ONE AT LEAST 1, 2, 3, 4, I THINK FIVE INDUSTRIAL, [00:30:01] UH, BUSINESSES THERE. AND SO, UM, AGAIN, TALK TO ME ABOUT WHAT WILL BE LOCATED ON THAT PART OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THOSE BUSINESSES SO THAT, UM, THE FEAR OF, UM, DISRUPTING THE RESIDENTS, UM, OF YOUR MIXED USE PROPERTY AND ALSO THE RATIO OF, UM, LAND COMPARISON AS WELL. SURE. SO THERE IS ONE, UM, IT'S A USER, OUR NORTH, THEY'RE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTING GROUP. UM, IT'S REALLY NOT AN INDUSTRIAL USE, IT, IT'S MORE OF COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC THAT GOES IN AND OUT. UM, THERE WILL BE HOMES ADJACENT TO THAT, THAT TRACK, BUT WE WILL BE PUTTING IN SENSING AND PROBABLY 20, 25 FOOT FOOT BUFFER. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE FOCUSED ON IS THE PROPERTY TO OUR SOUTH. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IS AN INDUSTRIAL USE AND WE ARE PROPOSING ABOUT FIVE TO SIX ACRES OF COMMERCIAL, UM, COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, AGAIN, FENCING. AND THEN, UH, THERE WILL BE A MULTI FANCY SITE, UH, WITH THE BUILDING PUSHED NORTH, UH, WITH A PARKING LOT AND SENSING LANDSCAPE BUFFER, AGAIN, FACING THAT INDUSTRIAL USER TO OUR SOUTH. UM, HE, AND THAT MR. CHRISTIE IS THE ONLY TRUE INDUSTRIAL USER ABUTTING US, ER, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVE VACANT LAND TO OUR, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY NORTH AND EAST. AND THEN THE HIGHWAY, OF COURSE TO THE WEST. UH, THERE ARE MORE TRADITIONAL INDUSTRIAL USERS, AGAIN TO THE SOUTH, BUT ACROSS THOSE RAILROAD TRACKS. UM, BUT, AND I THINK YOU ASKED ALSO FOR THE RATIO, WE HAVE 200 ACRES OF LAND, BUT THE PRIMARY, THE INDUSTRIAL USERS HERE ARE OPERATING ON ONE TO TWO OR THREE ACRES TRACTS AT MOST. UM, AND AGAIN, WE REALLY HAVE ONE TRUE INDUSTRIAL USER THAT'S CLOSE TO US. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE INDUSTRIAL USERS, THE ONE, AND WE HAVE 20, PROBABLY 25 ACRES OF BUFFER BETWEEN HIS THREE ACRES. MM-HMM. , UH, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TO A FACILITY AND, UH, THE USES ARE INTENTS, BUT THEY'RE VERY, IT'S A VERY SMALL OPERATION. UM, SO, UM, THIS IS, THIS GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO TAKE 200 ACRES OF HIGH TWO, UH, OUT OF THAT AREA BECAUSE THE CHANCES OF GETTING A A USER ON THE 200 ACRES IS PROBABLY NOT THAT GOOD. IT, IT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE THREE OR FOUR ACRES AT A TIME. UM, AND WITH, WITH NO COHESIVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, OF DEVELOP. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW BOTH AT THE SAME TIME. UH, SORRY. NO WORRIES. THANK YOU. AND STAFF, UM, WHAT THE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT, IS THAT THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN? IF YOU'RE TALKING, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. YEAH, NO, I HADN'T UNMUTED YET. UM, YES, THIS IS THE HERITAGE SHOP SECTOR PLAN AND IT WAS, ITS SPECIALIZED CENTER AND THE M X D IS, UH, IS NOT CONSISTENT. SO THEY DID HAVE A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. MM-HMM. FOR MIXED USE CENTER. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, I'D LOVE, UM, TO HEAR IF ANY OF MY FOLLOW COMMISSIONERS HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR INPUT. SO I'LL, UH, OPEN IT UP FOR, UH, QUESTIONS. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS OR INPUT? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UM, THIS QUESTION ACTUALLY IS FOR STAFF, UM, BECAUSE I, I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, UM, THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO OUT THERE AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY POSTED THAT, BUT I DO HAVE CONCERNS THOUGH ABOUT THIS, UM, CHANGE IN THE PLAN AND, OR I'M SORRY, NOT CHANGE IN THE PLAN, BUT CHANGE IN THE ZONING THAT MAY IMPACT THE EXISTING BUSINESS IS STAFF, UM, ACCEPTING OF THE MULTIFAMILY AND THE C TWO NA AS, UH, A SUFFICIENT BUFFER BETWEEN THAT AND THE RESIDENTIAL. YES. ESPECIALLY WITH THEIR SITE PLANS SHOWING, UH, THE COMMERCIAL USES MORE, UM, ALIGNED WITH THE CURRENT INDUSTRIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE AREA. [00:35:02] OKAY. AND I, I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULDN'T IMPACT THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL USE GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. WE WOULD LATER COME BACK AND SAY IT'S NO LONGER, UH, AN APPROPRIATE USE GIVEN THE DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S WHAT I'M SEEKING. SO I THINK I GOT THAT FROM YOU, BUT IF I DIDN'T, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG. WELL, THERE'S NO WAY TO, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. HOWEVER, THIS DEVELOPER WILL BE DEVELOPING THESE HOMES. PEOPLE GENERALLY COME OUT TO LOOK AT AN AREA WHEN THEY'RE INTERESTED IN A PROPERTY. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO, THEY WILL BE ABLE TO SEE WHAT IS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. UH, AND AGAIN, THE GOAL WAS SOME MULTIFAMILY AND RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL. AND SO THAT, THAT APPEARS TO BE A GOOD BLEND. AND WHAT, WHAT WAS THE INTENTION, UH, PERHAPS ALONG A CORRIDOR LIKE THIS THAT IS ALONG THE HIGHWAY? O OKAY. AND AGAIN, REALIZING THAT TRAFFIC IS NOT NECESSARILY IN OUR BAIL DISCUSSION AND I, OH, I PROVIDED MY CONCERNS TO THE APPLICANT. THERE IS NO ACCESS ROAD ALONG 37, AND THIS WILL BE A CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND T SCOTT TRAFFIC ISSUE THAT WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, UH, SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. UH, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS GONNA TAKE OVER YEARS, THERE WILL BE MORE INCREASING TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS OR INPUT FROM ANY, UM, COMMISSIONERS? LET'S SEE. OKAY. UM, SEEING NONE, UM, I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER TWO. SECOND ROMERO. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, BY MYSELF, COMMISSIONER MCGEE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY, UH, COMMENTS? OKAY. SEEING NONE. OKAY. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREY HOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAM? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. 11 TO ZERO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM [6. 20-2704 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700048 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for six (6) dwelling units, on Lot 4, Block 1, NCB 2183, located at 636 Ruiz Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] IS ITEM NUMBER SIX. THIS IS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM R FOUR A H O V TO I D D TWO A H V WITH USE PERMITTED FOR SIX SWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 6 36 RU STREET. THERE WERE 30 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, THREE OPPOSED NO RESPONSE FROM HOPE IN HOPE IN ACTION. AND GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF SIX UNITS INTRODUCES EXCESS, EXCESS EXCESSIVE DENSITY IN AN AREA THAT IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY. THE PROPOSED IS NOT PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED ZONING CREATES A DENSER HOUSING STOCK, NOT CHARACTER CHARACTERISTIC OF THIS AREA. THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO IS NOT APPROPRIATE. ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED I D Z OR DENSITY IN THIS AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY, UM, OR WHEN YOU HAVE THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? UH, THIS IS PATRICK CHRISTENSEN ON THE APPLICANT. UH, MUST REQUEST A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 16TH HEARING. UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY ASKED FOR SOME ELEVATIONS. IT TOOK A WHILE FOR OUR ARCHITECT TO GET THOSE PREPARED. WE HAVE THOSE. SO I WOULD LIKE THIS ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO REACH OUT TO THEM AND TALK TO A COUPLE OF THE IMMEDIATE [00:40:01] NEIGHBORS. I KNOW THEY HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND IT'S JUST BEEN A MATTER OF NOT KNOCKING DOOR TO DOOR DURING THE CORONAVIRUS, SO IF I COULD HAVE THAT CONTINUOUS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE DO HAVE SOME RECORDED VOICEMAILS. I CAN PLAY THOSE WHEN YOU'RE READY. I BELIEVE WE ARE READY. UH, CONCERN, ISN'T IT? IT IS, UH, ON, UH, 7 0 6 RU STREET, 8 27 7. AND UM, I HEAR THAT THEY'RE GOING BE BUILDING UNITS FOR THE HOMELESS AND VACANT LOTS. UM, I'M PROCESS FOR THAT BECAUSE, UM, ONE TOLD US THEY ANYTHING ABOUT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DOING IT AND, UH, PROTESTING ON, I HEARD FROM OTHER, UH, RESIDENTS TO DO THIS. AND I ALSO, UH, MY NAME IS 8 7 3 7 8 2 0 7 AND I PROTEST. HELLO? YES. UH, MY NAME IS LOUIS. SO, UH, I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF WEBO, UH, MY MOTHER AND MYSELF. UH, WE LIVE AT, UM, WE BOTH RESIDE AT SIX LEWIS AND, UM, ON BEHALF OF, UH, BASICALLY WE'RE BOTH, AND UH, CASE NUMBER IS, UH, FOUR EIGHT. UM, WE'RE BOTH WITH THE, UH, THE DALE ASSOCIATION. UM, AGAIN, UH, MY NAME IS LOUIS SILVA. I'M CALLING ON BEHALF OF MY MOTHER, WHO IS ACTUALLY THE HOMEOWNER AT THE RECORD JUST MENTIONED LEWIS. UH, WE CAN BOTH BE REACHED AT 2, 2 3. YES, SIR. MS. SANDRA SVA. I LIVE AT 6 34 STREET. UM, I AM A MEMBER OF THE DALE HOME ASSOCIATION. I AM AGAINST FOR FOUR Z 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 0 0 4 8. THANK YOU. ONE YES, IS MY NAME IS RITA SANCHEZ, MAY, THIS IS R U Z STREET. I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z 2020 DASH OH 7 0 0 0 4 8. I AM VOTING AGAINST THIS, UM, CHANGE OF ZONING AGAINST. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, MA'AM. THANK YOU. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? MR. CHRISTENSEN? UM, AND GARDENDALE AS WELL. SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THE, UH, UH, ONE MONTH CONTINUE. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. YOU KNOW, GIVEN SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, I THINK THERE WOULD BE, UH, SOME UTILITY IN GETTING A ONE MONTH AND GETTING, UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN, THE HOMEOWNER AND THE APPLICANT TIME TO GO OUT AND SEE WHAT THEY CAN DO WITH SOME OF THE OPPOSITION. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS TO BE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS OR HOMELESS UNITS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT FURTHER EDUCATION. SO, UM, ASSUMING NO ONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I WOULD MOVE FOR A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE, JUNE 16TH MEETING. SECOND, IT'S COMMISSIONER WHITE. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM MANY COMMISSIONERS? CNN ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GROFF? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. [00:45:02] OH, MR. CAN YOU SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOUR MIC HERE? YOU SOUND VERY DISTANT. YES. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER PSYCH? YES. ANTE, UH, AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH, 11 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. IF WE'RE READY FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. [7. 20-2761 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700050 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 NCD-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-5 NCD-2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District on the east 45.82 feet of Lot 7, Block 6, NCB 1892, located at 806 West French Place. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] YES. YES. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX NCD TWO A H O D TO RM FIVE NCD TWO A H O D, LOCATED AT 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. TWO. RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION. ALL VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS CONCERNS AND A POWERPOINT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PRESENT. THERE WAS ONE OPPOSED OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. THAT IS THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY, AND THERE'S A LETTER TO READ FOR THAT FUND. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS. IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THERE ARE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES IN THE AREA WITH SIMILAR DENSITY. THE REQUESTED R FIVE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND WOULD ALLOW THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? IF THE APPLICANT'S THERE, PLEASE UNMUTE AND ADDRESS THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE SAN ANTONIO. HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD SIR. HI, MY NAME IS JONATHAN BUCKINGHAM. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, THANK YOU. AWESOME. UM, WELL, UH, THANK YOU FOR, UM, LETTING ME SPEAK HERE TODAY TO PRESENT MY CASE. I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. SO MY BUSINESS, UM, IS CALLED MILITARY CRASH PAD. WE SPECIALIZE IN PROVIDING, UH, MEDIUM TERM, FULLY FURNISHED RENTAL SPOTS FOR MILITARY PEOPLE. UM, COMING FOR VARIOUS TRAINING PROGRAMS. WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE 2013, AND WE DO IT IN, UH, 10 DIFFERENT CITIES IN SIX DIFFERENT STATES, MOSTLY AROUND, UM, AIR FORCE SPACES. SO WE SERVICE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE AT RANDOLPH BLACKLAND AND FORT SAN HOUSTON. WE HAD PURCHASED 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE, UM, WITH THE INTENT OR THE HOPE TO, UH, RENOVATE THE ENTIRE FRONT STRUCTURE WITHOUT CHANGING ANY OF THE, UM, EXTERIOR, UH, OTHER THAN TOUCHING UP THE PAINT, DOING SOME LANDSCAPING. UM, BUT WE ARE GONNA, UH, REDO THE INTERIOR. AND THEN IN THE BACKYARD THERE'S A STRUCTURE THAT THE OLD OWNER WAS PLANNING ON MAKING INTO A A, A TWO STORY HOUSE OR EXTRA UNIT. UM, WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD A SECOND STORY. WE WANT TO TAKE THAT STRUCTURE AND SPLIT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND CREATE TWO SEPARATE, UH, APARTMENT UNITS. SO OUR REQUEST TO GO FROM R SIX TO RM FIVE TO ALLOW THE USE OF THREE UNITS WAS, IS OUR INTENT. UM, AND AS STATED BEFORE, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE, THE OUTSIDE APPEARANCE OF ANY OF THE BUILDINGS, UM, ON THE PROPERTY. THE BACK STRUCTURE ACTUALLY IS NOT VISIBLE AT ALL FROM THE FRONT STREET. UH, IT'S POSITIONED IN A WAY TO WHERE YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE BACK THERE UNLESS YOU GO DOWN THE DRIVEWAY. SO, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS OUR INTENT, UH, AND OUR HOPE WITH THE RESOUNDING, UM, AND I THINK, I THINK THAT ANSWERS, THAT'S EVERYTHING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, IF YOU'LL HOLD THE LINE, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU'LL HAVE TIME TO RESPOND IF YOU'D LIKE AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT. AND WE ALSO MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? [00:50:03] YES, MA'AM. I'LL TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE LETTER ON YOUR SCREEN. I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT THAT DUMP PICKED UP, I LIVE NEXT DOOR AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE IT LOOKING GOOD. HOWEVER, IT MUST HAVE PARKING AND UNTIL THE OWNER COMES UP WITH A SOLUTION TO THAT, I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE I FOUR NEXT DOOR. IN THE PAST, IT HAS BEEN RENTED TO YOUNG FOLKS WHO BUILT A PLACE WITH COUCH TENANTS, PARKING PROBLEMS. I DON'T MIND SIX VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPERTY COMPETING FOR PARKING ON THE STREET, BUT WHEN ONE OF THEM IS PARKED, SO IT BLOCKS MY DRIVEWAY, THAT REALLY UPSETS ME. I AM FUNCTIONALLY DEAF AND WHEN THE MUSIC FROM THAT HOUSE IS SO LOUD THAT I CAN HEAR IT IN MY BEDROOM, THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ABSENTEE OWNER WHO IS AN INVESTOR AND DOESN'T REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY. IT HAS BEEN AN ANNOYANCE IN THE THREE TH 30 YEARS I HAVE LIVED HERE. AND DESPITE THE NEW OWNER'S INTENT TO MAKE COSMETIC REPAIRS, I CAN SEE THE ANNOYANCE IT COMING AND THEREFORE, UM, IN OPPOSITION ROBERT LAWTON. AND THE OTHER LETTER IS FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED REZONING CHANGE AT 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH. WHILE THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS NOT VISIBLE FROM THE STREET AND DOES NOT IMPACT THE HISTORIC FEATURES OF THE DISTRICT, IT'S JUST AN UNFORTUNATE PRECEDENT. PRESS HAS TO CHANGE. THE ZONING WILL LEGALIZE AN ANCILLARY STRUCTURE THAT IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE. THE NEW PARKING WILL ADD EXTENSIVE IMPERVIOUS COVER TO THE LOT. WE URGE YOU NOT TO APPROVE THE ZONING. ANY CHANGE? THANK YOU. PATTY VANCE, THE CONSERVATION SAN SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND THEN WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF, OF ONE PUBLIC COMMENTS, VOICE, VOICEMAIL, AND COMMENT. I CONCLUDE THAT, UH, IT'S NOT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, HI, ARE YOU MY NAME IS, MY ADDRESS IS 8 2 2. I'M, UM, AFTER, UH, TALKING WITH, UH, SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSULTATION, I CONCLUDE THAT, UH, IT THE BEST INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BLOCK. UH, SO, UM, UH, GRANT, UM, CHANGE OF FOR THE REQUEST, UH, TO INCREASE. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GETTING QUALITY OUTTA THAT. COULD ANYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY POINT. I THINK WE CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE. ALL THE NEXT IS A LIGHT CALLER. AND WE HAVE TWO LIVE CALLERS. I HAVE MS. WRIGHT ON THE LINE REMINDER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA WRIGHT. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND NEIGHBOR, HOMEOWNER AT 6 3 4 WESTVIEW AVENUE. THIS COMMENT IS IN ADDITION TO THE EMAIL I SENT YESTERDAY REGARDING MY CONCERN FOR THE PLANS AT SIX PLACE. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN AN AREA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS IDEAL FOR NEGOTIATING THIS TYPE OF ZONING CHANGE. SINGLE FAMILY, FAMILY THAT IS FOR THAT PURPOSE, NOT [00:55:01] FOR THESE RESIDENCES THAT ARE NEARBY THE COMMERCIAL CARE CORRIDOR. THAT WE TAKE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS CONCERNING ANY REQUEST FOR CHANGE. NEARBY PROPERTIES ARE USED FOR JUSTIFICATION, AND WE DO NOT LET THIS CHANGE, EXCUSE ME, LEND ITSELF TO AN INCREASE IN BILLING REQUEST FOR A CHANGE TO MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES IN THE FUTURE. WHILE WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT RENTAL PROPERTIES ARE, AND THAT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE ARE RELUCTANT IN BECOMING INCREASINGLY WARY OF POOR INVESTMENT CHOICES BY DEVELOPERS. THIS PROPERTY IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT CREATES THAT HESITANCY. THE ACCESSORY UNIT OR BACK BUILDING IS IN NO CONDITION TO BE REMODELED OR THAT HAS BEEN SHARED. I HOPE THAT IT'S APPARENT TO ALL THAT THIS BUILDING NEEDS TO BE DEMOLISHED. AND THE NEW BUILDING HE SAW AFTER THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS NOT SHARED PLANS WITH US THAT THIS INTENT OR PLANS THAT ACKNOWLEDGE THE SALE OF THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO SUCCESSFULLY CHANGE IT TO MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY. IF UNSUCCESSFUL, THE PROPERTY OWNER MIGHT TAKE A BUSINESS LOSS, THAT MAJORITY AND LASTING DETRIMENTAL IMPACT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IN ADDITION, CONSIDERING ALL THREE UNITS, THE MAIN HOUSE AND THE TWO IN THE BACK, THERE WOULD BE NO ONSITE MANAGEMENT OF THE PROPERTY. THIS IS MOVING AWAY FROM THE ORIGINAL S OF THIS TYPE OF LAYOUT. THESE PROPERTIES ARE BUILT THAT HAVE A MAIN HOUSE LISTED BY PROPERTY OWNERS AND AUXILIARY IS A RENTAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF MY CONCERN. AT THIS TIME. I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST DISAPPROVAL. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, IF YOU'LL HOLD JUST A SECOND, LET ME SEE IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, WOULD ANY COMMISSIONER LIKE OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. HI. UM, THANKS FOR CALLING IN. UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY AT THE END YOU SAID THAT YOU ARE, YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGE OR YOU ARE IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE IN OPPOSITION. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. NO MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER? OKAY, THANK YOU MA'AM FOR, UH, YOUR TIME AND YOUR, UH, COMMENTS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR NEXT CALLER AND THERE IS A PRESENTATION THAT SHE WILL BE, UM, PRESENTING. UH, WE HAVE TAMMY KLEY ON THE LINE. MS. LEY, PLEASE REMEMBER YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES AND, UH, GO AHEAD AND START YOUR PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. IT'S LOADED. UM, TAMMY, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL US NEXT SLIDE WHEN YOU'RE READY TO PROCEED, THERE'LL BE A SLIGHT DELAY BECAUSE OF THE STREAMING. OKAY. CAN WE, CAN WE, UH, MS. LEY, UM, THERE, THERE'S SOME, UH, FEEDBACK OR SOMETHING'S GOING ON. SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE, UM, ANYBODY KNOW WHAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM IF ANYONE'S USING A SPEAKER PHONE? PLEASE DON'T. WE'RE GONNA TURN DOWN THE VOLUME ON THE PHONE TOO, JUST TO SEE IF THAT'S BETTER. AND, AND YES. AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ANTE BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, NO ONE'S USING A SPEAKERPHONE. 'CAUSE THAT CAUSES DISTORTION SOMETIMES TOO. GUYS, TURN THE SPEAKER OFF. OKAY. IT, IT'S BETTER. THAT IS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. UM, I'M A LITTLE BIT OF YOU GUYS, BUT, UH, LET'S DO LEY, PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND I'M ALSO ON TECHNICAL COMMITTEE CHAIR. I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR AT 5 0 6. FIRST, WE'RE IN A MEMBER OF THE RENOVATION OF THE ORIGINAL 1920 SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE. FULL SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. TODAY I'M PRESENTING OPPOSITION NOT ENTIRELY TO JONATHAN INGHAM'S, REQUEST FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING WITHOUT CONCERN. FOR ISSUES ON THIS PROPERTY THAT ARE SERIOUS HEALTH AND SAFETY PROBLEMS, SPECIFICALLY DENSITY, CONDITION, AND SETBACK ALREADY COMPROMISED RESULT OF THE QUESTION OF REALISTIC PARKING SOLUTIONS FOR THE [01:00:01] ADDED DENSITY. THIS PROPERTY WILL BE OPERATED AND IS ASSUMED AS AN STR TWO. SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE. OUR ISSUE WITH THE DETERIORATED STRUCTURE IN THE REAR REPRESENTS THE ORDER SHOWN TAKING THIS PROPERTY FROM SIX TO AN RMM. FIVE. IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, THE STRUCTURE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED FOR DEMOLITION A D A, THE MISCELLANEOUS NO REVIEW PERMIT ISSUED ON MAY 15TH IS CONCERNING DUE TO THE SCOPE OF WORK INVOLVED. SLIDE SIX. A ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IS SERIOUS FOREVER. IT TIME SENDS MR. BUCKINGHAM'S RECENT INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S UP TO EVERYONE INVOLVED, ESPECIALLY D S D TO ENSURE THAT THIS PROPERTY IS BROUGHT UP TO CODE IN THE PROCESS THAT THIS ZONING. SLIDE SEVEN. HOW FAR WE ARE CONCERNED THAT THE STANDARD OF CARE IS NOT BEING MET. WE'RE CONCERNED THAT OUR RESERVATIONS WITH THIS PROJECT ARE NOT BEING TAKEN SERIOUSLY. WE HOPE THAT MILITARY CRASH PAD L L C WILL BE A LONG TERM GOOD NEIGHBOR AND THIS IS NOT GUARANTEED THE LONG TERM IMPACT OF THIS DECISION. PLEASE, WE HAVE COMPROMISE. WE ORDER AT THE VERY NINE. PLEASE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND DETENTION. OUR CALIFORNIA IS AVAILABLE TO YOU FOR AND WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE CLARIFICATIONS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. KALEY, IF YOU COULD JUST HOLD JUST ONE MOMENT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF, UM, ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU. UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. AYE. YES. THANK YOU. CHAIR. UH, TO THE, UH, THE A NOT THE APPLICANT, THE CALL ONLINE. ARE THESE PICTURES THAT YOU ARE SHOWING US THE BUILDING BEHIND THE HOUSE THAT'S EXISTING? YES. YES, MA'AM. AN EXISTING STRUCTURE THAT THE APPLICANTS WISH TO, UH, REMODEL. OKAY. YOU SHOWED ONE SLIDE OF, MAYBE IT WAS SLIDE FOUR OF AN INSPECTION SHEET. SO THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING HAS HAD NO INSPECTIONS ON IT. I SEE. UNPAID FEES. NO, THERE ISN'T. THERE WAS AN INSPECTOR AS FAR AS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DISCOVER AT THIS POINT. WE'RE WORKING WITH D ONE ON TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. AND IT APPEARS THAT THE BUILDING WAS BUILT. IT WAS NEVER FINISHED. UM, IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER. HE NEVER HAD THE MONEY TO FINISH IT. SO I, I THINK THIS WAS ENTIRELY THAT COMMENT. IT, IT'S, AT THIS POINT IT'S RUNNING OSB AND IT NEEDS TO BE TORN DOWN. OKAY. SO GOING BACK TO THAT SLIDE FOUR ON THE INSPECTION, IT LOOKS LIKE A JOHN O D AN INSPECTOR INSPECTED IT, BUT, UH, NO ACTION TAKEN. DID HE DEEM IT WAS OKAY FOR THIS TO EXIST, BUT NOW IT'S JUST NEVER BEEN FINISHED. SO LET ME EXPLAIN WHAT THAT PERMIT IS. SO THAT MISCELLANEOUS PERMIT, THESE ARE THE TYPICAL TYPE OF PERMITS THAT YOU PULL. IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME REROOFING OR SOME RESIDING, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS IN A NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT, THIS IS REVIEWED BY, UH, BY N C D TEAM, WHICH INCLUDES JOHN . UM, AND SO THE MISCELLANEOUS PERMIT REVIEW WENT TO OUR TEAM, UH, TO REVIEW THE MATERIALS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH THE M C D. UH, IT WAS GIVEN A CONDITIONAL APPROVAL BECAUSE THE ROOFING MATERIALS MET THE M C D AND WE NEEDED MORE INFORMATION ON . UM, SO WE, UH, IF WE DID THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL FOR THAT, BUT IT, THERE HASN'T BEEN AN INSPECTION ON IT. THE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL WAS JUST DONE ON FRIDAY. THERE'S BEEN NO INSPECTION BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY STARTED THE WORK AND TRIGGERED AN INSPECTION YET. AND, AND IN, IN TOTALITY, A BUILDING PERMIT WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THE INTERIOR WORK, UM, IN ORDER TO EXPAND THAT USE. BUT THE ZONING HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST IN ORDER FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE USE TO BE DONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER? OKAY, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE CALLER. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UH, ONE OF THOSE SLIDES LOOKS LIKE THE REAR SETBACK IS SHOWING [01:05:01] ONLY THREE FEET. DOES THE REQUESTED ZONING ALLOW FOR A THREE FOOT BUFFER? WHAT'S THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE BUFFER ON THAT? I CAN I, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, CAN, UM, DOES THAT HAVE TO HAVE THE CALLER ON THE PHONE FOR THAT QUESTION OR CAN WE SAY THAT, IS THAT RELEVANT TO THE QUESTION YOU HAVE? I CAN SAY, I CAN SAY THAT WE CAN FINISH WITH THE APPLICANT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER? OKAY. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. LEY, FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR INPUT. THANK YOU FOR LISTEN. I HOPE IT WAS I, BECAUSE THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, TO THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, TIME TO RESPOND? IF YOU DO, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO, UH, FIVE MINUTES, MINUTES OR LESS. IS THE APPLICANT STILL OR IS IT OKAY? HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. AWESOME. UM, OKAY. YEAH, UM, I GUESS JUST IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THEIR COMMENTS, UH, I LIVED DOWN THE STREET ON CORTLAND, SO, UM, IT A, UH, FROM A PERSONAL LEVEL WOULD NOT BE AN ABSENTEE, UH, MANAGEMENT SERVICE. AND IF YOU GO ON OUR WEBSITE, MILITARY CRASH PAD.COM, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE LEVEL OF OUR PROPERTIES ARE QUITE HIGH. SO, UM, WE'RE UNABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE HIGH LEVEL PROPERTIES BY BEING ABSENTEE. UH, SO WITH THAT, UM, I GUESS THAT THAT'S OUR REBUTTAL TO THAT. THE OTHER PART WAS WE ARE CLEARING OUT ONE OF THOSE TREES AND CREATING FOUR PARKING SPOTS IN THE BACK BECAUSE SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ONLY BEEN IN OPERATION FOR, SINCE 2013, ONLY SEVEN YEARS, UM, WE HAVE TO FIND WAYS TO MAINTAIN GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS. AND ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS NOT PARKING IN OUR DRIVERS OR OUR NEIGHBOR'S DRIVEWAYS AND, AND, UH, BLOCKING THEIR ACCESS TO THEIR OWN HOMES. SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE WITH ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES. UM, YOU WOULD SEE THAT ON OUR, ON OUR WEBSITE WITH OUR CURRENT PROPERTIES. AND THEN, UM, AND THEN AT, I GUESS JUST AS FAR AS THE PERMITTING STUFF, UH, I ASSUME THAT IN EVERY PROPERTY YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO BUILD A PERMIT. SO I GUESS THAT WAS NEVER IN DOUBT WHEN WE WERE MAKING THESE PLANS. UH, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO WITH OUR BUILDER AND THEN WE GET INSPECTED AS THE TIME COMES. SO, UM, THOSE WERE, UH, PART OF THE PROJECT. SO I MEAN, UH, I GUESS THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO ADD. UH, CLIFF, THANK YOU, SIR. IF YOU'LL JUST, UM, HOLD, BECAUSE SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU. COMMISSIONER GRAY HOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, SO YEAH, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR BOTH, UM, APPLICANT AS WELL AS STAFF. UM, UM, QUESTION TO STAFF. UM, HAVE ANY PLANS OF ANY KIND BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY WITH RESPECT TO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE? I THINK WE MAY HAVE ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANNA GET, UM, A DEFINITE ANSWER ON THE RECORD. UM, THIS CAT, UH, OUR RECORD DO NOT INDICATE ANYTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THE INTERIOR OR THE EXPANSION. AGAIN, THE ONLY PERMIT, UH, THAT WE HAD, UH, SUBMITTED LAST WEEK WAS THAT MISCELLANEOUS, UH, PERMIT FOR ROOFING MATERIALS AND SIDING. IT DID INDICATE IN THE PERMIT, UH, WHAT THE ULTIMATE PROJECT WOULD BE. UH, BUT WE MADE A NOTE THAT OF COURSE, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO WORK ON THE INTERIOR UNLESS THEY HAVE THE ZONING RESOLVED FIRST. OKAY. UM, AND THEN KIND OF TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, WHEN IT WAS BUILT, WAS IT PERMITTED AND DO WE HAVE LIKE A TIMEFRAME ON WHEN THAT HAPPENED? AND, AND KIND OF HOW THAT, THAT HAPPENED? ACCORDING TO THE AVAILABLE RESEARCH THAT WE HAD, IT APPEARS THAT THE STRUCTURE WHICH WAS BUILT AS A DETACHED GARAGE WAS MOST LIKELY BUILT IN THE EIGHTIES. THERE'S NO RECORDS OF A PERMIT POOL. UH, THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON, ESPECIALLY FOR, UH, OLDER PARTS OF THE CITY. AND, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD IF AND WHEN THAT DETOX GARAGE WAS CONVERTED INTO SOME SORT OF DWELLING UNIT LATER BY PREVIOUS OWNERS. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, COULD YOU PULL UP, UM, A SATELLITE [01:10:01] MAP VIEW OF THIS PROPERTY? GOOGLE? YEAH, WE CAN PULL UP THE GOOGLE MAP. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IN THE MEANTIME, I GUESS WHILE WE'RE PULLING THAT UP, UM, THIS KIND OF GOES OFF OF I THINK WHAT I THINK WHERE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL WAS GOING, AND I'M, I'M GONNA STEAL HER THUNDER, BUT, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE WERE TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY TO R RM FIVE? AND THEN AS THE BUILDING PROCESS GOES FORWARD, UH, SOMEONE DETERMINES, YOU KNOW, D S D DETERMINES THAT THE BUILDING IS NOT, UM, IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR REHAB AND IS ACTUALLY A DEMO. SO KIND OF HOW DOES THAT OPERATE? AND THEN WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? CAN THEY, WOULD THEY BE BUILDING SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THE SETBACKS BE, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING SOMETHING NEW, KIND OF HOW WOULD THAT WORK? OKAY. I KIND OF COMBINE THE ANSWER TO YOUR AND, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S QUESTION RELATED TO SETBACKS. SO A DETACH STRUCTURE, A A A TYPICAL ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT, UH, AT, UH, UP TO THREE FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE WITH NO OVERHANG. SO THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE MANY DETACHED GARAGES, STORAGE SHEDS THAT ARE AS CLOSE AS THREE FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE, BOTH SIDE AND REAR PROPERTY LINE. UM, IF THEY ARE USED AS A DWELLING UNIT, LIKE AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, UH, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE FIVE FEET. UH, WE SEE VARIANCES, ESPECIALLY IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT OR OTHER PARTS OF THE ORIGINAL 36 4 MILES THAT, THAT GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR VARIANCE IN ORDER TO CONVERT A PREVIOUS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE INTO AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT AND TO GET A VARIANCE TO THE SIDE AND REAR IN ORDER TO KEEP, UH, THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT AS IS AT THREE FEET. UM, IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED TO RMM, THE REAR SETBACK FOR A A, A UNIT TO BE UTILIZED AS MORE THAN JUST AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS 10 FEET. SO IF THEY WANTED TO USE THE ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT AS IS, THEY WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IN ORDER TO USE THAT ORIGINAL FOOTPRINT, IF YOU WILL. UM, OR THEY COULD BUILD, DO CONSTRUCTION AND JUST COMPLY WITH THE 10 FOOT REAR. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. UM, AND THEN COULD, IS THERE ANY WAY TO ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT ON THE MAP THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY WAY FOR US TO GET EVEN CLOSER. OKAY. SO WHERE THE MOUSE CURSOR CURRENTLY IS, IS THAT, IS THE STRUCTURE THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, IS THAT CORRECT? I BELIEVE IT IS. I I I WOULD ONLY, I WOULD SAY THAT APPLICANT NEEDS TO JUST CONFIRM THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IS THE STRUCTURE THAT HE INTENDS TO SPLIT AND SEE IT. MR. BUCKINGHAM, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THAT IS THE, THE STRUCTURE? SO I CAN'T ACTUALLY, I, I, I CAN'T SEE WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SEEING. I WAS LOOKING FOR THE HOW TO GET ON THAT WEBINAR, BUT I COULDN'T FIND ANY EMAIL FOR THAT. SO, UH, NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. THERE'S ONLY ONE STRUCTURE IN THE BACKYARD. OKAY. THEN THAT SHOULD BE THE STRUCTURE COMMISSIONER GREY HEALTH. OKAY. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE GOOGLE BACK VIEW, BY THE WAY. OH, OKAY. YEAH, THERE'S ONLY ONE STRUCTURE. OKAY. AND THEN DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE SETBACKS ARE BETWEEN THE, 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, UM, FOR THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE THERE THAT IF THERE APPEARS TO BE A VERY TIGHT CLUSTER OF BUILDINGS RIGHT HERE. UM, AND DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THOSE DISTANCES, DISTANCES ARE BETWEEN THOSE BUILDINGS? YOU'RE ASKING STAFF? NO, WE DO NOT, BECAUSE WE DO NOT, UH, HAVE, WE HAVEN'T DONE AN INSPECTION OUT THERE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BUILDING PLANS TO CONFIRM THAT. OKAY. BUT REGARDLESS IF, IF HE WAS TO CONVERT THIS INTO A DWELLING AS IS HAS BEEN EXPRESSED, HE'LL HAVE TO GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND THEY'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS, OR IF HE BUILDS A NEW BUILDING, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A, A GREATER SETBACK THERE. CORRECT. OKAY. UM, I THINK I'M DONE WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. UM, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR PRESENTATION OR IN YOUR REBUTTAL THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON DOING FOR PARKING SPACES, UM, HAVE YOU ACTUALLY MEASURED THAT, BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT THIS PROPERTY IS A, IS ABOUT 0.14 [01:15:01] OF AN ACRE. UM, HAS ANYONE ACTUALLY KIND OF, YOU HAD LIKE A, AN ENGINEER OR, UM, ARCHITECT OR ANYONE MEASURE OUT? ARE YOU GONNA HAVE ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE FOUR PARKING SPACES BACK THERE? WE HAVEN'T HAD AN ENGINEER, BUT WE HAD OUR, UH, UH, OUR GP DO IT. SO WE'RE PLAYING ON PUTTING THREE IN BETWEEN THE TWO STRUCTURES AND THEN ONE ALL THE WAY FORWARD. UM, I GUESS IF YOU JUST GO DOWN THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN, UH, GO STRAIGHT, SO ONE THERE AND THEN THREE IN BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS WHERE THAT, AND WE'RE PLANNING ON MOVING THAT, UM, PALM TREE THAT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT. OKAY. BUT, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SHOWN ANY DRAWINGS TO ANYONE, YOU KNOW, SHOWING LIKE WHAT THE WIDTHS OF THOSE PARKING SPACES ARE GOING TO BE. YOU HAVEN'T, UM, PRESENTED THAT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HELP ALLAY THEIR FEARS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, IN INCREASING THE PARKING SITUATION ON THE STREET? NO, THE ONLY THING I'VE SHOWN IS OUR PLANS FOR THE INTERIOR, AND I SENT THAT TO UM, UH, TAMMY KEGLEY. UM, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY PERSON I'VE SENT DOCUMENTS TO, BUT NOTHING ON PARKING. OKAY. UM, AND HOW BIG ARE YOUR UNITS, UH, THAT YOU'RE PLANNING FOR THAT BACK STRUCTURE? THEY'RE JUST, THERE'S, THEY'RE SINGLE BEDROOM UNITS, UM, SO WE'RE JUST SPLITTING IT DOWN THE MIDDLE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE ABOUT, UM, FOUR TO 500 SQUARE FEET EACH. OKAY. AND THOSE WOULD BE RENTED OUT ON, UM, IS THAT A SHORT-TERM BASIS OR A LONG-TERM BASIS, OR DOES THAT THEY'RE MEDIUM TERMS, SO THEY'RE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS, BUT THEY'LL PROBABLY BE LESS THAN A YEAR. UM, AND, AND THAT'S OUR, OUR MAIN BUSINESS MODEL. UH, SO WE HAVE, WE DO ALWAYS, UM, WELL NOT RECENTLY IN THE PAST SIX MONTHS, WE STARTED, UH, GETTING OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN RIGHT DOWNTOWN, KIND OF BY TOKEN HILL, AND WE'VE BEEN GETTING THE, THE SHORT TERM, UH, THE S T R TYPE TWO PERMIT. UM, SO WE WOULD GET THAT FOR THESE PROPERTIES. UH, BUT WE ARE PUTTING MILITARY PEOPLE INTO 'EM AND THEY'RE STAYING FOR GREATER THAN 30 DAYS. OKAY. BUT YOU WILL BE PLANNING ON HAVING, UM, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL PERMIT ON THE PROPERTY? YES, JUST FOR THAT. WE, WE HAVE THE OCCASIONAL, UM, WE HAVE THE OCCASIONAL PERSON THAT COMES IN AND THEIR, THEIR TRAINING PROGRAM'S ONLY THREE WEEKS, SO BY DEFINITION THEY'RE THERE FOR LESS THAN 30 DAYS. SO JUST TO SAY, UH, IT'S CLEARLY LEGAL THAT WE, WE GET, HAVE TO COVER IT. OKAY. UM, AND DO THOSE JUST, THIS MAY NOT BE EXACTLY THE ZONING QUESTION, BUT NOW I'M, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS ABOUT THE OPERATION. SO DO THOSE FOLKS HAVE OTHER ALTERNATIVES WHERE THEY CAN STAY? IS THERE ON BASE HOUSING THAT WOULD BE AFFORDED TO THEM OR, UM, OTHER PLACES THAT THE, THAT THE MILITARY WOULD APPROVE THEM TO STAY? SO, ONBASE HOUSING IS NOT AN OPTION FOR THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY'RE ON TEMPORARY, UM, DUTY ORDERS. SO THEY'D ACTUALLY STAY IN ONBASE, LODGING THE HOTEL, UM, COMPLETELY SEPARATE SYSTEM. UH, AND MOST OF THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING ARE, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR WIFE, A KID OR TWO AND A DOG OR NO DOGS. BUT, UM, WHEN THEY'RE HERE FOR FOUR TO SIX MONTHS AT A TIME AND IT'S FOUR, FOUR TO FIVE PEOPLE IN ONE HOTEL ROOM WITH A HOT PLATE, I MEAN, THAT'S NOT MOST OPTIMAL LIVING CONDITION FOR ANYONE'S HEALTH. UH, SO I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S OUR BUSINESS MODEL, UM, ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I MEAN, SIX STATES I GUESS. BUT, UH, BUT YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE OFFER. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, THAT, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UH, DOES IT, DO YOU KNOW IF IT ALREADY HAS PLUMBING? COMMISSIONER JONES, WE CAN BARELY HEAR YOU. CAN YOU SPEAK UP JUST A LITTLE BIT LOUDER? OKAY. DO YOU KNOW IF IT HAS, UH, PLUMBING AND ELECTRICITY? IT HAS PLUMBING. IT DOES NOT HAVE ELECTRICITY. SO BEFORE WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS, AND I DON'T EVEN THINK WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN APPROVED FOR THE ELECTRICITY, WE HAD TO REQUEST A RESOLVING. OKAY. BUT IT DOES HAVE PLUMBING. AND HAS ANYBODY LIVED IN THAT UNIT BEFORE? ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BACK ACCESSORY UNIT? THE BACK? YES. NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. UM, THE, THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR, UH, IS, IS THE ONE WHO ACTUALLY [01:20:01] FORMALLY OWNED IT. UM, HE, I, I DON'T KNOW THE SITUATION. HE WAS LIVING IN ONE, TRYING TO BUILD THE OTHER ONE NEXT DOOR. AND THEN HE NEVER COMPLETED EITHER ONE OF 'EM. AND THEN I THINK HE LOCKED THIS HOUSE. UM, BUT I, FROM WHAT, FROM THE ONE INTERACTION WE HAD, HE HAD TOLD ME THAT HE WAS PLANNING ON BUILDING A TWO STORY STRUCTURE, UH, AND THEN JUST NEVER FINISHED IT. SO THAT'S WHAT I KNOW ABOUT THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER HUEY. YEAH. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SO I HEAR YOU MENTION ON VARIOUS OCCASIONS THAT THIS IS FROM, FOR HOUSING, IT'S FOR SHORT TERM HOUSING, FOR MILITARY, IS IT AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT'S NOT IN THE MILITARY? UM, IT IS, UH, WE, I MEAN, WE DON'T DISCRIMINATE AGAINST ANYONE THAT'S, THAT'S COMING TOWARDS US OR JUST SMALL NICHE, UM, IS THAT MILITARY. PEOPLE FIND US 'CAUSE IT'S ALL WORD OF MOUTH. SO WE HAVE OUR WEBSITE, MILITARY CRASH PAD.COM. UM, WE'VE HOUSED, YOU KNOW, A SMALL HANDFUL OF, UH, CIVILIAN CONTRACTORS AND JUST PEOPLE COMING IN FOR, UM, CORPORATE, CORPORATE TYPE STUFF. WE HAVE A TRAVEL NURSE WITH US RIGHT NOW, BUT OUR MAIN DEMOGRAPHIC THAT FINDS US, OR THAT WE ADVERTISE TO ARE MILITARY PEOPLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. YOU WOULD, COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, YOU SAY THAT YOU'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS. IN THAT TIME, HAVE YOU EVER SOLD ANY OF YOUR PROPERTIES THAT YOU, UM, HAVE YOU HAVE, UH, RENOVATED? UH, YES, WE HAVE, UM, MOSTLY IN NEW MEXICO, UM, AND THEN A COUPLE IN OKLAHOMA. WE HAVEN'T SOLD ANY IN TEXAS. UM, WE SOLD ONE IN WASHINGTON AS WELL, BUT NOT IN TEXAS. AND WE, WE ALSO OPERATE HERE AND THEN IN WICHITA FALLS. OKAY. ANY, ANYTHING ELSE, COMMISSIONER, YOUR DONE? NO, THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, TO THE APPLICANT? WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU SAW THIS, UH, STRUCTURE, DID YOU, WAS THAT IN YOUR, YOUR INTENT ALL ALONG BECAUSE OF THE ACCESSORY BUILDING IN THE BACK AND THAT'S WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT, IT WAS TO DO THREE AND THEN, OR TWO AND THREE, HOWEVER YOU HAVE THAT CARVED UP. BUT WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT, IT WAS THE INTENTION WHEN YOU SAW THAT IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE? THE ACCESSORY ONE, THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE Y YES MA'AM. AND, UM, SO YOU WERE AWARE THAT IT PROBABLY MIGHT NOT BE UP TO CODE, IT MIGHT MEAN OTHER TYPES OF VARIANCES OR APPROVALS ALONG THE WAY? OH, ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. UM, I MEAN, THIS ISN'T OUR FIRST, UH, PROPERTY THAT, I GUESS DISTRESS PROPERTY THAT WE BOUGHT AND FIXED UP. UM, WE'VE DONE THIS, I GUESS THIS IS ONLY OUR, OUR FIFTH ONE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT WE'VE DONE 'EM IN NEW MEXICO AND IN WASHINGTON AND OKLAHOMA. UM, BUT WE'VE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, YOU KNOW, SETTING IT WITH PERSON WE BUY IT FROM AND THEN GOING THROUGH WITH OUR GENERAL CONTRACTOR, SEEING WHAT CAN BE DONE, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. UM, THIS IS A SMALL LITTLE ADDITION. WE HAVE A FEW OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO PUT IN FOR FEDERAL TRAVELERS INTO EACH OF THE, THE UNITS, UM, TO, TO MAKE IT, UM, TO MAKE IT ALLOWABLE FOR FEDERAL TRAVELERS TO, TO STAY IN OR TO RENT DURING THEIR, UH, THEIR FEDERAL TRAVEL. SO, UM, SO YEAH, SO YEAH, WE, WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND MAKE SURE THAT, UH, EVERYTHING'S UP TO CODE, THOSE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS ARE PUT IN THERE. AND THEN IN THE END, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET, UM, CERTIFIED BY THE US FIRE ADMINISTRATION AND GET A FEMA NUMBER FOR ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES. UM, WITHOUT THAT WE CANNOT, WE CANNOT OFFER OUR PROPERTIES TO FEDERAL TRAVELERS. SO ON OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES AND WE HAVE THE FEMA NUMBERS DISPLAYED. UM, SO THAT'S ANOTHER REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THAT MOST. I GUESS MOST PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO PROPERTIES. ARE THERE INSPECTIONS THAT ARE NORM THAT HAPPEN [01:25:01] ON A REGULAR BASIS UNDER THOSE TYPE GUIDELINES? YEP. HOW OFTEN DO THOSE ARE? SORRY, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE, THE, YOU GO ON THE PROPERTY? YEAH. ONCE YOU GO. YES. SO WE'RE IN THE PROPERTIES, UM, AT LEAST FOUR TIMES A MONTH BECAUSE WE OFFER, UM, REGULARLY SCHEDULED CLEANING. SO OUR CONTRACTORS, OUR CLEANING CREWS ALWAYS IN THERE, UM, ABOUT A WEEK, WEEK AND A HALF EACH TIME. AND THEN WE HAVE DIFFERENT VARIOUS HANDYMEN THAT GO IN AND FIX THINGS. UM, AND THEN WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH OUR TENANTS. SO, UH, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE ARE, YOU COULD SAY WE ARE LIKE A HOTEL OR LIKE A CORPORATE HOUSING COMPANY. UM, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, HERE'S THE, THE UNIQUENESS TO OUR BUSINESS MODEL. NOBODY EVER STAYS AS LONG AS THEY SAY THEY'RE GONNA STAY. SO, UH, UH, FIRST LIEUTENANT GOING TO RANDOLPH IS GONNA HAVE ORDERS THAT SAY, HEY, I'M GETTING THERE JUNE 1ST, AND MY ORDERS TODAY, I'M LEAVING AUGUST 30TH. WELL, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR SEVEN YEARS. NOBODY'S LEFT. WHEN THEIR ORDERS SAY THEY'RE GONNA LEAVE BECAUSE THERE'S MAINTENANCE DELAYS, WEATHER DELAYS, CORONAVIRUS DELAYS, WHATEVER, UM, TO THE POINT WHERE THEY GET BACK IN CONTACT WITH US OR VICE VERSA, AND WE SAY, HEY, IT'S ALMOST AUGUST 30TH, ARE YOU LEAVING? LIKE, NOPE, I'M ACTUALLY GETTING EXTENDED BY A MONTH OR BY A WEEK, OR I NEED THIS, THIS, OR THAT. SO WE HAVE PEOPLE GOING THROUGH THE HOUSES, UM, AT LEAST FOUR TIMES A MONTH. AND WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH ALL OF 'EM. IT'S, IT'S A LOT MORE HANDS-ON, UH, THAN ANY NORMAL RENTING SITUATION. SO THAT'S ALSO WHY OUR PROPERTIES ARE MUCH BETTER CONDITIONED THAN YOUR AVERAGE RENTAL PROPERTY. AND THEY LOOK, I GUESS, AS UPSCALE AS THE ONES ON OUR WEBSITE. SO. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT A HOTEL THAT MIGHT GIVE IT A DIFFERENT ZONING DESIGNATION ALTOGETHER. SO THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS. NOT, NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER, UH, GIBBONS, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? THANK YOU. UM, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. LET ME, I MAY HAVE MISSED THIS. IN YOUR EARLIER DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT, WHAT, UM, OCCUPANCY DO YOU PLAN FOR THE MAIN STRUCTURE? HOW MANY BEDROOMS WILL BE LEFT? UM, IT'S GONNA BE A TWO BED, ONE BATH, SO I MEAN, WE'RE ONLY GOING TO RENT THAT TO ONE, ONE FAMILY, OR ONE, ONE TENANT EACH UNIT. SO ALL THREE UNITS, JUST ONE, ONE TENANT EACH, WHETHER THAT'S A SINGLE PERSON OR THE SINGLE, OR THE, THE MEMBER AND THEIR WIFE. UM, BUT THE FRONT BUILDING IS A TWO BED, ONE BATH. OKAY. UM, SO THANK YOU, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO LET ME UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENS TO THIS PROPERTY IF WE CHANGE ZONING TO RMM FIVE, AND HE WILL BE REQUIRED TO GET A VARIANCE BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK ISSUE AND JUST, I KNOW IT RARELY HAPPENS, BUT IN THE CASE THAT THE VARIANCE IS DENIED, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PROPERTY THEN? SO AT THAT POINT, HE WILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE SETBACKS THAT ARE, WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THAT PROJECT. SO, UM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU WERE GONNA UTILIZE IT AS DWELLING UNITS, SO IT MAY INVOLVE DEMOLITION AND RECONSTRUCTION. OKAY. AND WITH THIS, IS THERE A PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE A D U? UH, NO, THERE'S NO PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR AN, FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. UM, BUT FOR A TYPICAL UNIT, IT IS ONE PER, UH, UNIT. SO IT'S POSSIBLE THEN THAT HE MAY HAVE TO HAVE A DIFFERENT REARRANGEMENT THERE AND WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO, TO ALLOW THAT, THAT FOUR PARKING SPACES THAT HE'S OFFERING TO PUT IN. UM, OKAY. SO NOW I GUESS I, LET ME GO BACK TO THE APPLICANT THEN AND JUST ASK THE APPLICANT, WHAT WOULD YOUR PLANS BE, UM, IN CASE THIS VARIANCE IS DENIED, ARE YOU, ARE, HOW WOULD YOU WORK WITH THE PARKING IF YOU'RE REQUIRED TO MOVE THAT AND CHARGE STRUCTURE TO MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT? CAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SAY THAT QUESTION AGAIN PLEASE? SORRY. SURE. SO YOU OBVIOUSLY YOU'LL HAVE TO GO FOR A VARIANCE BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA MEET THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AND RIGHT, OKAY. SO IT DOESN'T ALWAYS HAPPEN. THERE ARE CASES WHERE THOSE VARIANCES ARE DENIED. AND SO IN YOUR SITUATION, HAVE YOU GIVEN THOUGHT TO WHAT YOUR, WHAT YOU, YOUR PLAN WOULD BE IF THAT VARIANCE IS DENIED, BECAUSE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TEAR DOWN THAT STRUCTURE AND MOVE IT FORWARD TO MEET THOSE SETBACKS, WHICH WOULD THEN PROHIBIT SOME OF THAT PARKING THAT YOU'RE COUNTING ON [01:30:01] RIGHT NOW. AND FOR ME, I, I DON'T WANNA SEE PARKING ON THE STREET. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, HOW WOULD YOU HANDLE THAT? WE WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE OR CHANGE OUR PLAN. UM, OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAD TO MOVE THAT STRUCTURE FURTHER IN AND EVERYTHING, WE COULDN'T PUT AS MANY PARKING SPOTS. AND IF WE CAN'T DO THAT, THEN WE CAN'T PUT THAT UNIT INTO TWO. SO IN THAT SITUATION, WE WOULD STILL TRY TO GET IT TO ONE UNIT IF THAT WAS, WAS POSSIBLE. OKAY. UM, SO THAT WE'D ONLY HAVE TO PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING FOR FRONT UNIT AND THEN NOW JUST THE SINGLE BACK UNIT. OKAY. UM, AND HAVE YOU MADE ANY ATTEMPTS TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WALK THEM THROUGH THEIR CONCERNS? UH, YES. I, I WALKED THE PROPERTY WITH, UH, TAMMY KEGLEY, UM, UH, AND THEN I, I HAD SENT HER OUR PLANS FOR THAT. UM, I THOUGHT I HAD A DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING WHEN WE LEFT THAT MEETING. UH, AND THEN THERE WAS ONE EMAIL YESTERDAY, AND THEN THERE'S MEETING, UM, THAT'S SAYING THAT THEY'RE IN OPPOSITION. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT IT'S, YEAH, THAT'S AS FAR AS I'VE GONE WITH 'EM. OKAY. UM, AND ONE LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR BEING SO PATIENT. SO IF YOUR ZONING IS DENIED TODAY, WHAT ARE YOUR PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY AT THAT POINT? I GUESS THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO IS DO, UM, THE FRONT PROPERTY. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW, WE HAVE TO RERUN OUR NUMBERS AND ALL THAT STUFF. WE, WE USED A HARD MONEY LOAN TO, TO PROCESS THIS AND THEN, UM, TO, TO DO ALL THE REHAB. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN'T GET IT APPRAISED AT THAT LEVEL OF WHAT WE HAD IT PROJECTED FOR BEFORE, THEN WE'LL JUST, WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE PLANS ON WHAT WE CAN ACTUALLY DO. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION. AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, I UNDERSTAND WE DON'T APPROVE OR DISAPPROVED ZONING. OURS IS MERELY RECOMMENDATION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER GRAU, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST HAVE KIND OF A, A CLARIFICATION QUESTION AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO, UM, WHEN COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL ASKED ABOUT THIS BEING AN A D U, UM, AND, UH, CA YOU RESPONDED THAT, UH, THERE'S NO PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR AN A D U, BUT IN THIS INSTANCE, THIS WOULD NOT BE AN A D U BECAUSE THERE'S NO OWNER WHO'S LIVING IN THE FRONT STRUCTURE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT EACH OF THOSE REGULAR DWELLING UNITS WOULD REQUIRE ONE SPACE. SO YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE THREE PARKING SPACES IN ORDER FOR THIS, UH, ZONING CONFIGURATION TO WORK. YES. AND THEN, UM, QUESTION NUMBER TWO IS WHETHER OR NOT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN MADE AWARE THAT IN ORDER FOR THIS ZONING AS AND, AND KIND OF HIS WHOLE MODEL TO WORK, THAT HE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT PROCESS. AND PART TWO TO THAT QUESTION IS THE EXPENSE AND THE TIMELINE THAT IS INVOLVED IN GOING THROUGH THE, THE VARIANCE PROCESS. I DON'T THINK THAT THOSE, UH, QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP DURING THIS PROCESS. SO THE FOCUS HAS BEEN ABOUT YOUTH, UH, BECAUSE THIS, UH, ZONING REQUEST DOESN'T REQUIRE A SITE PLAN. UM, SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT HAS BEEN COMMUNICATED. THE QUESTION DID COME UP. OKAY. AND COULD YOU JUST FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION, UM, LET US KNOW WHAT THE TIMELINE IS ON A VARIANCE? SURE. IT'S TYPICALLY 30 DAYS. SO, UM, ONCE THE ZONING, ZONING HAS TO BE APPROVED FIRST FOR THE YOUTH, AND THEN, UM, THEY CAN APPLY TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND IT CAN BE WITHIN THAT SAME MONTH, UM, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONER? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE? YES, THANKS. SO THIS HAS BEEN, UM, A, A DIFFICULT CASE FOR ME FOR MANY RESPECTS. UM, FIRST OF ALL, NOT NOT HAVING A WHOLE LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION UNTIL, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE, UM, THE, THE MEETING, UH, TODAY, SO THAT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FEEL LIKE I'M PLAYING CATCH UP TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, UM, WHICH I DON'T FEEL LIKE IS USUALLY THE CASE IN, IN MY DISTRICT ANYWAYS. UM, SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT OF RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND ABOUT THIS REZONING, UM, GIVEN, UM, THE LACK OF, LACK OF COMMUNICATION, UM, AMONGST THE PARTIES. [01:35:01] UM, AND, AND I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, UM, OF MOTIONING FOR CONTINUANCE TO ALLOW THE PARTIES TO WORK THIS OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE AND MAYBE GET SOME MORE DEFINITE PLANS, UM, IN PLACE. UM, AND I, I THINK BEFORE I GO ON WITH MY, UM, WITH MY SUMMARY, UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO ACCEPT A, A CONTINUANCE TO TRY TO WORK THINGS OUT? UM, I FORGOT WHAT THE, WHAT'S THE APPLICANT? OH, OKAY. GOOD. MM-HMM. , OR AM I SUPPOSED TO ANSWER THAT NOW? YES. YES, YOU, YES, PLEASE. UM, THIS, I MEAN, I GUESS THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND REZONING, SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY OTHER OPTIONS ARE. SO, , UH, IF THAT IS MY ANSWER, , I DON'T KNOW. IS THERE, IS THERE ANY OTHER OPTION, I GUESS, TO THAT? OKAY. STAFF, CAN YOU RESPOND PLEASE? UM, SO A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE IS ONE OPTION, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL IS ANOTHER OPTION, AND A MOTION FOR DENIAL IS A LA IS ANOTHER OPTION. AND, AND SO BE AT THIS POINT UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE WHAT MOTION TO MAKE IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THAT PATH. OKAY. SO THE COMMISSIONER IS ASKING, BECAUSE THERE ARE CONCERNS RELATED TO THE REQUEST, SHE'S ASKING IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO DO A CONTINUANCE TO HAVE TIME TO WORK IT OUT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN ORDER TO COME BACK TO MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING. I DON'T KNOW IF A CONTINUANCE STATE WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT AND, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE A GOOD RESOLUTION FOR A MORE POSITIVE OUTCOME. COULD YOU STATE THE DATES OR COMMISSIONER REHOUSE? WHAT, UH, WERE YOU THINKING TWO WEEKS, FOUR WEEKS? WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE PARTIES CAN, CAN GET TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH, IF WE'RE WORKING AT TWO WEEKS, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE JUNE, THE SECOND, UH, MEETING. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT, UM, WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET IN TOUCH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN TWO WEEKS. BUT, UM, WE CAN ALWAYS, UM, I, I PROBABLY WON'T BE HERE ON, ON JUNE THE SECOND. SO, UM, IF, UH, IF WE GO TO THAT DATE, THEN, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL WILL BE, UH, TAKING ON THE, THE TAKING A LEAD ON THIS CASE. SO, UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PARTIES HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THIS OUT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY'VE MADE MUCH PROGRESS, UM, DESPITE THE, THE DELAYS THAT WE'VE HAD. AND THEN, JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE I, I, I HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO, TO GET TAMMY TO APPROVE ME FOR ANY OF THIS TO GO THROUGH. LIKE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE COULD ACTUALLY GET APPROVED. NO, BUT COMMISSIONER REDHOUSE, DID YOU WANNA ADDRESS THAT OR? SURE. UM, NO, I, I, I ALSO HAVE CONCERNS. THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT, UM, WHAT MS. KEGLEY HAS SAID, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE THERE DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE, UM, A, A LOT, A LOT OF PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE AND, AND CONSIDERING THIS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, AND THE FACT THAT YOU MAY HAVE TO DO A VARIANCE AND THE PARKING CONCERNS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IF, IF YOU, YOU CAN'T GET THE VARIANCE AND YOU HAVE TO MOVE THE SETBACKS, THEN HAVING IT ZONED TO RMM FIVE IS INAPPROPRIATE BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE THREE UNITS. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTANDING BETTER, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU, COMING TO THEM WITH A, WITH A PLAN OR A PLAN A OR A PLAN B WILL HELP ALLAY SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL AS SOME OF MY CONCERNS. AND I, I'M NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR THE REST OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, UM, WHO MAY ALSO SHARE SIMILAR CONCERNS AND MAY HAVE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CONCERNS. UM, BUT IN, IN MY OPINION, I THINK TWO WEEKS AT LEAST, WOULD GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO PRESENT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE, UH, DETAILED AND A LITTLE MORE, UM, WELL THOUGHT THROUGH. OKAY. [01:40:04] SO IS, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE WILLING TO, TO ENTERTAIN? YES. OKAY. UM, AND IN THAT CASE, UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF, UM, ITEM NUMBER. SOMEONE CAN HELP ME WITH THE ITEM NUMBER THAT I CAN EVER SEEM TO GET. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, ITEM TO THE JUNE 2ND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE JUNE 2ND MEETING BY COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY, UH, COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER JONES? I JUST DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TIME FOR HIM TO MEET WITH THEM AND, UH, COORDINATE WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND ALL THAT, WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES. SO I WOULD SUGGEST A LITTLE BIT LONGER TIME. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY OTHER COMMENT? OKAY, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT, UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRAU? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. AND CHAIRMAN DEAN? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 2ND. ALL. DO YOU NEED A BREAK OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROCEED WITH ITEM NUMBER 12? I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE OKAY TO WAIT FOR A BREAK FOR A LITTLE WHILE. IS THAT OKAY? NO, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. OKAY, GREAT. ITEM [12. 20-3300 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700057 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-1 AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for a Professional Office and one (1) residential unit on Lot 3, Block 5 NCB 1298, located at 1810 North Interstate 35. Staff recommends Denial. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE A H O TO I E D ONE A H O WITH USE, PERMITTED FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE AND A DWELLING UNIT LOCATED AT 1810 NORTH IH 35. THERE WERE 24 NOTICES MAILS ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SIX IN OPPOSITION 28 WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM GOVERNMENT. HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS VOTING CHANGED REQUESTS. THE ENTIRE BLOCK IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY AND HAS ESTABLISHED HOME, ALTHOUGH I 35 NORTH IS A HIGHWAY AND A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR. THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK HAS REMAINED UNTOUCHED BY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. THE CURRENT ARCHIVE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED I E D IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE AREA AND INTRODUCES COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO A SINGLE FAMILY BLOCK. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT READY TO PRESENT? I'M HERE. HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. HI, MY NAME'S RANDALL MCC. CLEAR. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL TAKING THE TIME THIS AFTERNOON. UM, I INITIALLY SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION BACK IN FEBRUARY WHEN I HAD SUBMITTED, I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SPEAK WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. AND EVERYBODY THAT I SPOKE WITH AT THE TIME WAS IN FAVOR, UM, AND, AND VOICED NO OPPOSITION. AND AT THE TIME, I HAD ALSO APPLIED FOR C TWO BECAUSE THE, UH, UH, THE PROPERTIES FACING THE ACCESS ROAD RIGHT THERE ON 35. ALL ARE C TWO. UM, TO THE SOUTH OF US IS, IS HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USE. AND, UM, BEING ON THE ACCESS ROAD OF A, OF A HEAVY HIGHWAY RIGHT THERE ON 35, UM, WE HAD, WE WERE LOOKING FOR C TWO. UM, AFTER SPEAKING TO, UH, STAFF BRIEFLY, UM, REALIZED THAT WASN'T WHAT WE NEEDED. UM, OUR GOAL IS TO MOVE OUR REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE OFFICE THERE. AND THAT WE HAVE, WE, OUR, OUR PLAN IS TO KEEP THE HOUSE, KEEP THE STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE AND SIMPLY ADD PARKING GARAGE AND A GARAGE APARTMENT IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. UM, AS OF THIS MORNING WHEN I, WHEN I WOKE UP THIS MORNING, I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS ANY OPPOSITION WHATSOEVER. UM, I, I BELIEVE [01:45:01] THAT THERE HAS BEEN SOME OPPOSITION SINCE THEN. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY, IF THERE ARE ANY LETTERS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO BE READ OR IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE SPEAKING. UM, SO REALLY THE, THE PROCESS AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO, AGAIN, IT'S A REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE WHO JUST LOOKING TO MOVE DOWN THERE. WE HAVE SEVEN EMPLOYEES RIGHT NOW. UH, FOUR OF THEM WORK REMOTELY. SO REALLY IT'S THREE PEOPLE WOULD BE OCCUPYING THE PROPERTY FOR, UH, REAL ESTATE BROKERAGE PURPOSE. UM, I D D ONE IS SIMPLY TO ALLOW US TO, UH, KEEP THE STRUCTURE THAT'S THERE, BUT THEN ADD ANOTHER ADDITIONAL STRUCTURE IN THE REAR FOR PARKING, WHICH IS THE, UM, UH, PARKING GARAGE AND, AND, UM, A RESIDENTIAL UNIT ON THE TOP FLOOR. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO. UM, AGAIN, THIS MORNING I GOT AN EMAIL FROM, FROM MICHAEL SAYING THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION. SO I'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH WITH WHETHER WE NEED TO CONTINUE THIS OR NOT. UM, SO THAT I HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BUT AGAIN, I, I HAD ALREADY PRESENTED THIS TO THE GOVERNMENTAL ALLIANCE, UH, ASSOCIATION. THEY, THEY WERE IN APPROVAL. UM, I ALREADY SPOKE TO MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS AND GOT THEIR APPROVAL LETTERS IN SUPPORT. AND THEN WHEN, UH, COVID 19 HAPPENED, I HAVEN'T BEEN OUT KNOCKING ON DOORS SINCE THEN. I THINK MY CASE GOT DELAYED, UH, THROUGH ONE MEETING. SO AS OF THIS MORNING WHEN I GOT THAT EMAIL, THERE WE GO. HERE'S SO, YEAH, THIS, THIS, YOU'RE CLICKING THROUGH THOSE SLIDES PRETTY QUICKLY, BUT, UH, THAT'S THE PROPERTY. SO WE'RE NOT DEMO MOWING THE PROPERTY. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO TAKE YOU DOWN. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UH, BUILD A HIGH RISE DEVELOPMENT OR ANYTHING. AND I, AND I FEEL LIKE ANY LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, UH, PEOPLE WERE LED TO BELIEVE THAT WE WERE DOING SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING. SO AGAIN, UH, IF, IF I NEED TO CONTINUE SO I CAN GO AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS, I WILL. BUT IF, IF THERE IS NO OPPOSITION THAT'S BEEN VOICED THAT'S GONNA BE READ OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES, THEN I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE. HAPPY TO, TO, UH, PROCEED WITH THE CASE AS IT IS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY ON THE LINE, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND IF THERE IS PUBLIC COMMENT, AND THEN WE WOULD STILL ASK YOU TO CONTINUE TO STAY ON THE LINE IF, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE. OKAY. UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. UM, THIS WAS A PART OF THE EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO YOU GUYS THIS MORNING THAT HAD THE 33 RESPONSES. WE DID BREAK IT DOWN. THERE WERE SIX OFFICIALLY WITHIN THE 200 FEET THAT WERE OPPOSED, AND 28 WERE OUTSIDE OF THE, THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. I DO HAVE TWO LETTERS TO READ INTO THE RECORD. THE FIRST IS FROM MR. JOSE HERRERA AT TWO 10 SHERIFF STREET. I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING CHANGE REQUEST. I AM NOT OPPOSED TO COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT COME WITH PLANNED COMPREHENSIVE ZONING WHERE THE TYPES AND LOCATIONS OF FUTURE LAND USES ARE MAPPED OUT. I'M OPPOSED TO SPOT ZONING WHERE THIS HOME AT 1810 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 IS ALLOWED TO BE USED FOR BUSINESS PURPOSES IN WHAT OTHERWISE IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE WANT TO REMAIN UNDER FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. THUS FAR, WE REPRESENT 34 FAMILIES WHO OPPOSE CHANGING THE 1810 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 ADDRESS. FROM A RESIDENTIAL TO A COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE, IT'S MORE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL. RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE CONVERTED INTO BUSINESSES. THE PRO PROLIFERATION OF THESE BUSINESSES WILL BRING LASTING DAMAGE TO THE AESTHETICS, CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. GENTRIFICATION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS HABIT WITH RISING PROPERTY VALUES AND THE PUNISHING PROPERTY TAX INCREASES THAT COME WITH IT. THIS BUSINESS AND FUTURE BUSINESSES HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO EXACERBATE THE PROBLEM. VEHICLES THAT ENTERED THIS BUSINESS OR OTHERS ALONG IH 35 FRONT ROAD DO NOT HAVE PROPER EGRESS. THERE HAS BEEN AT LEAST ONE REPORTED CAR CRASH THAT OCCURRED WHEN A VEHICLE BACKED UP INTO ONCOMING ONCOMING TRAFFIC TRAVELING ON IH 35 FRONTAGE ROAD. THE AREA BETWEEN THE UTILITY POLES IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES TO THE EDGE OF THE I 35 FRONTAGE ROAD ARE STATE RIGHT OF WAY. INEVITABLY, THESE AREAS BECOME PARKING LOTS, WHICH ATTRACTS A GREATER VOLUME OF VEHICULAR TRAFFIC. THIS BUSINESS AND OTHER PLANS IN THE FUTURE WILL REQUIRE MORE SIGNAGE TO ADVERTISE THEIR SERVICES. SIGNS AND LARGE NUMBERS CAN BECOME VISUAL POLLUTANTS. IT IS NO COINCIDENCE THAT BILLBOARDS ARE BANNED ON HIGHWAY 2 81 IN THE ALMO PARK AREA. NOISE AND AIR POLLUTION SHOULD ALSO BE CONSIDERED. AND THAT WAS JOSE HERRERA AT TWO 10 SHERIFF STREET. WE ALSO HAVE MR. FRED [01:50:01] LOZANO. I I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR RANDALL MCGUIRE ON THE PROPOSED THREE ZONE TO 1810 NORTH I 35 CHANGE FROM R FIVE TO I D D ONE WITH USE FOR OFFICE AND SMALL RESIDENTIAL UNIT IN REAR. I BELIEVE MR. MCGUIRE IS NEEDED IN OUR UP AND COMING NEIGHBORHOOD. AS SOME WOULD SAY THAT WE ARE STILL CONSIDERED TO BE SO FAR BEHIND EVERY OTHER DISTRICT, BUT WITH THE SMALL CHANGES, WE CAN MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE IN FAVOR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR ANOTHER LOZANO BROKER WITH TECAN TREE REALTY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, MA. THANK YOU. UM, RANDALL, I'M SO SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR LAST NAME. NICK, WHAT IS IT? NICK L. NICK L OKAY. LOTS OF VALVES. DID 'EM ALL IN. UM, UM, SO JUST IN RESPONSE TO MR. HERRERA, THE, UH, ALL OF THE, AGAIN, IF YOU GO TO THE ZONING MAP AND THE FUTURE LAND USE ON THE, ON THE PRESENTATION THAT I ACTUALLY SUBMITTED, THE FUTURE LAND USE ALL ALONG THE ACCESS ROAD IS ALL MIXED USE. AND SO SOME OF THE C TWO THAT'S ALREADY THERE, IT'S HEAVY, HEAVY COMMERCIAL. AND THEN BEHIND US IS THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL. AND SO WE ARE, UM, WE ARE NOT LOOKING TO DO ANY OF THAT. WE WANT TO KEEP THE HOUSE, WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY THAT'S THERE. CURRENTLY WE'RE REMODELING IT AND BRINGING IT BACK TO LIFE. ESSENTIALLY, WE HAVE TO DO FOUNDATION WORK. WE HAVE TO REDO THE ROOF, UM, NEW WINDOWS, NEW ELECTRICAL, NEW IN INSTALLATION. WE'RE DOING ALL OF THAT TO, TO KEEP THE PROPERTY AND KEEP THE STRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY THERE. UM, SO I'LL JUST GO DOWN THE, THE LIST. UM, YOU DOESN'T WANT MORE BUSINESSES THERE. I MEAN, WE'RE, AGAIN, BY MAINTAINING THE, THE LOOK AND FEEL OF THE, UH, YEAH. SO AGAIN, YOU GOT C TWO TO THE EAST AND WEST, AND THEN THE FUTURE OF LAND USE, RIGHT THERE IS, IS FOR EXCUSE. SO AGAIN, WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE MIXED USE. WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF OFFICE SPACE WITH SOME RESIDENTIAL, AGAIN, WITH, IN, IN LINE WITH THAT. UM, SO AGAIN, HE SAYS, UH, HE DOESN'T WANT MORE BUSINESSES THERE. UM, IF IT'S, IF THE FUTURE LAND USE IS FOR MIXED USE, UM, THEN AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ALREADY SEEN COMING ALONG THAT ACCESS ROAD. UM, RISING PROPERTY TAXES, I, I WOULD ARGUE THAT OUR PROPERTY WOULD NOT RAISE YOUR TAXES ANYWHERE, UH, CLOSE TO MAYBE LIKE A, A STORAGE FACILITY THAT JUST WENT IN BRAND NEW STORAGE, A 60 FLAG THAT'S JUST DOWN THE STREET, UH, A BANK THAT IS JUST DOWN THE BLOCK. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CHANGING THE PROPERTY. UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC GOES, THERE IS EGRESS, THERE IS A, A LOT, OR SORRY, AN ALLEY BEHIND THE PROPERTY. AND OUR PLAN IS TO, UH, MAINTAIN THAT LOT AND ACTUALLY GIVE, UH, OUR, OUR GIVE A THIRD DRIVE FOR THE ACTUAL PARKING. SO WE HAVE SPACE IN THE BACK FOR ABOUT FIVE PARKING SPOTS. UM, AGAIN, FOR THREE PEOPLE USING FOUR PEOPLE USING THE OFFICE. FIVE IS, IS, UM, IS SUFFICIENT. UM, I, I WOULD ARGUE AGAIN, OR I, I'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT THE ACCIDENT IF SOMEBODY WAS BACKING OUT, IF IT WAS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THAT WAS PACKING OUT AND, AND, UM, HE MENTIONED ABOUT THE, THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE A 40 FOOT SETBACK FOR, UM, UH, THAT THE, I THINK TEXAS DEPARTMENT OWNS. AND RIGHT NOW THAT'S JUST BEING USED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE HIGHWAY AS A PARKING LOT. UM, ON THE, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 35 AND THE SOUTH SIDE WHERE WE ARE, MANY PEOPLE PARK IN THAT AREA. WE HAVE NO DESIRE TO PARK IN AN UNCOVERED PARKING. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO BUILD A STRUCTURE IN THE REAR SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE COVERED PARKING. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU, SIR. IF YOU'LL HOLD THE LINES. SURE. I'M SURE THAT, UH, COMMISSIONERS WILL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PER SE. UM, I AGREED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MIXED USE AS THERE'S BUSINESSES ON BOTH SIDES. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT'S GONNA RAISE THE PROPERTY TAXES. UM, SO I, I, I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T SEE, AND IT'S, IT'S CERTAINLY NOT GONNA CHANGE THE AESTHETICS ON THAT SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES? MM-HMM. . ALRIGHT. ANY, UH, OKAY, I SEE YOUR HAND. UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF. YOU KNOW, LOOKING, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF EMPHASIS ON THE FACT THAT THIS WAS A SINGLE BLOCK OF RESIDENTIAL, BUT LOOKING AT SORT OF A SLIGHTLY BROADER VIEW, WE SEE A LOT OF COMMERCIALS SITTING THERE ABUTTING [01:55:01] 35. SO WHY, WHY DID THE STAFF CHOOSE TO LOOK AT A SINGLE RATHER SMALL BLOCK FACE IN THIS CASE? AGAIN, JUST IN REVIEWING THE AREA AND, AND YES, BEING VERY AWARE OF THE LAND USE, UM, TO THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK OUT OF THAT ENTIRE AREA, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE STAFF DID THE SITE VISIT, IT WAS VERY CLEAR THAT IT WAS ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES. AND SO THERE WEREN'T, THERE WASN'T ANY INDICATION OF ANY KIND OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK. YES, THERE IS, UM, OUTSIDE OF IT, UH, FURTHER TO THE EAST AND WEST, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, THIS BLOCK IS STILL INTACT AS A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, BLOCK. RIGHT. BUT I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, SORT OF TAKING, AGAIN, JUST A SLIGHTLY LARGER VIEW, LOOKING FROM TIME TO NEW BRAUNFELS, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE END UP SEEING IS, IS PROBABLY 50, 60% OF THAT SORT OF SUPER BLOCK FACE IS, IS, IS COMMERCIAL. SO I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO, TO HOW THAT DECISION WAS MADE. IT JUST, IT INTRODUCING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY HERE, WE JUST START INTRODUCING SOME COMMERCIAL CREASE INTO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, BLOCK. AND SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE, THE RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, UH, JUST ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT WAS RAISED, UH, BY ONE OF THE CITIZENS, UH, WAS REGARDING SORT OF, I THINK IT SOUNDED LIKE MAYBE SOME CHANGE AS TO HOW THIS PROPERTY WOULD BE USED, BUT, UH, IF YOU COULD REFRESH MY RECOLLECTION, YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMEONE APPLIES FOR IDZ TWO, THAT USAGE IS LIMITED BY THE SITE PLAN, GIVE OR TAKE 10%. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. SEE, I MEAN, ANY I D V IS GOING TO HAVE A SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT, AND SO YES, THEY WILL HAVE TO MEET THE SITE PLAN REQUIREMENTS, AND THAT IS CORRECT, THE 10%, UM, VARIATION BASED ON ANY, MAKING SURE IT'S NOT A MAJOR AMENDMENT. IF IT'S A MAJOR AMENDMENT OF THE SITE PLAN, IF THEY CHANGE SOMETHING, IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK, UH, TO ZONING COMMISSION AND GO BACK TO DETAILS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. OKAY, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. MR. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF ABOUT THIS BOTTOM LINE, WHICH DOESN'T QUITE SEEM TO BE AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION. UH, BUT YOU'RE MENTIONING THAT THE APPLICANT COULD SEEK R FIVE CD, UH, CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE YOU'D REALLY SUPPORT THAT EITHER, WHICH I GUESS IS MY FIRST QUESTION. BUT MY SECOND QUESTION IS, IF THEY DID ASK FOR, IF THEY GOT THAT, COULD THEY BUILD THE PARKING STRUCTURE IN THE BACK? I ASSUME THEY CAN'T PUT THE APARTMENT OVER IT, BUT COULD THEY PUT A PARKING STRUCTURE IN THE BACK? I'M TAKING A LOOK AT THE, YEAH, THERE, IT, IT'S A PROPOSED NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR A TWO STORY, UH, UNIT. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT MEANS. IF, IF THEY GOT R FIVE CD, COULD THEY PUT THE PARKING STRUCTURE IN THE BACK LIKE THEY WANT. SO IT WOULD DEPEND ON WHERE THEY DECIDE. LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT THEY ONLY DID THE R FIVE CD, UM, AND THEY USED THE FRONT STRUCTURE AS, UM, THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS. AND THEN THE OTHER STRUCTURE WOULD BE, UM, A A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT. UM, I, THE PARKING COULD GO IN THE BACK. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO HAVE A STRUCTURE PER SE FOR PARKING, BUT AS LONG AS THE PROPERTY ITSELF UTILIZING THE DRIVEWAY, UH, MEETS THE MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR HOWEVER BIG THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IS AND THE NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS. OKAY. BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE CONFIRMING THAT THE R FIVE CD WOULD MORE OR LESS GET THEM TO WHAT THEY WANTED. BUT IT LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE NOT OFFERING THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU WOULD ALSO NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT ONE. CORRECT. SO, UM, THE REASON THAT WE WENT AHEAD AND ADDED THAT TO THE, TO THE STAFF REPORT IS BECAUSE WE KNOW HOW THE, THE ZONING COMMISSION LIKES TO HAVE A FULL PICTURE OF ALL OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A SITE. AND SO THAT WAS ADDED THERE. AGAIN, WE JUST, WE DID WANNA HOLD FIRMLY TO NOT INTRODUCING COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY TO THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK, BUT, UH, WE DID WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT IT IS, IT IS ANOTHER ZONING ALTERNATIVE. [02:00:02] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF WITH THE IDZ ONE. DID, WHAT IS THE SIGNAGE ALLOW ALLOWANCE FOR THAT? IS THERE ANY SIGNAGE ALLOWED? THE SIGN, UM, IS GONNA BE BASED ON THE CLASSIFICATION OF THE STREET AND ITS ADJACENT USES. SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LIMITATIONS ON HEIGHT AND DISTANCE. AND THAT'S IN CHAPTER 28. OKAY. IF YOU CAN OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, DOES THAT ALLOW FLASHY NEON SIGNS? IS IT JUST A STANDARD SIGN? THERE'S CERTAIN ILLUMINATION THAT THEY CAN'T EXCEED? UM, AND THEN THERE'S ALSO DISTANCE REQUIREMENTS. UH, BUT ALL OF THAT, BECAUSE WE JUST RECENTLY IN THE LAST TWO YEARS UPDATED THE TIME CODE, ESPECIALLY FOR PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. SO IT IS A LOT MORE RESTRICTIVE. OKAY. UM, 'CAUSE THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. AND THEN I GUESS I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO USE THE EXISTING HOME AND BUILD A SEPARATE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, BUT BY GIVING THEM I D Z ONE, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO DO THAT. THEY COULD THEN MOVE TO DEMO AND PUT IN A PROFESSIONAL BUILDING IF THEY, IF THEY WANTED. SO REMEMBER THE I D D HAS A SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT, AND SO THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO STICK WITH THE SITE PLAN AND WHERE THEY PLACED THAT YOU, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. SO NOW WHAT IS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY'RE ASKING VERSUS WHAT THE OTHER ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION? I, I DIDN'T SEE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE. UH, WELL, THE, IF THEY WENT WITH AN R FIVE DV, IT REQUIRES THE BASE TO REMAIN THE SAME. SO IT WOULD STILL BE AN R FIVE, UM, AND THEN IT WOULD HAVE THE ONE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE PROFESSIONAL OFFICE FOR THAT ONE ACTIVITY ONLY. IT'S ALSO GONNA LIMIT THE, BECAUSE IT'S A, A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE, IT'S GONNA LIMIT THEM TO THREE CONDITIONS. THEY'LL HAVE A, A SIGN REQUIREMENT, HOURS OF OP OPERATION FROM 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE PROPERTY MUST REMAIN RE RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. NOW, BUT IS THAT IN RANGE FOR THIS PROJECT IS AN, WHAT'S THE EXISTING R FIVE TO AN I D Z? I THOUGHT THIS WAS I D Z TWO, I D Z ONE OR TWO. IS THAT, IS THAT A POSSIBLE ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION? IS THAT IN RANGE STAFF? UH, BECAUSE I D D IS A SPECIAL DISTRICT, UM, CHANGING IT BACK TO A CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST WOULD REQUIRE REIFICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY. WOW. UM, ANY OTH UH, COMMISSIONER, WHY DID YOU, OH, OKAY. NO, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. SORRY. I HAVE SO MANY SCREAMS, OPEN SCREENS OPEN. UM, CAN SOMEBODY REMIND ME, I'M SEEING ALL THE 33 OPPOSITION. THEY SEEM TO LARGELY BE COMING FROM SHERA STREET. WAS THEIR OPPOSITION FROM THE, FROM THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ALONG THE 35 ACCESS ROAD? AM AM I ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT? UM, WELL, I WAS ASKING STAFF ACTUALLY, BUT IF YOU WANNA FOLLOW UP AS WELL, THE MAP IS UP ON THE SCREEN NOW. UH, COMMISSIONER. OKAY. SO SHERIFF STREET IS JUST TO THE SOUTH. WE WOULD HAVE TO VERIFY THOSE. WE'VE RECEIVED THOSE JUST THIS MORNING AND WE'RE NOT ABLE, NOT ABLE TO PUT 'EM INTO A MAP. WE DO KNOW THAT SIX OF 'EM ARE DIRECTLY WITHIN THE 200 NOTES, UH, THE, THE CIRCLE, THE 200 P. OKAY. BUT WERE THERE ANY, WAS THERE ANY OPPOSITION THAT CAME IN FROM THE, FROM THE HOME OR THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE IN THAT SAME BLOCK FACE ON THE IH 35 ADDRESS? [02:05:02] WE'LL VERIFY THAT FOR YOU. SO IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, JUST GIVE US A MOMENT TO VERIFY THAT. IT, IT, I, AGAIN, THIS, THIS IS RANDOM. UM, IF I COULD JUST SPEAK TO THAT FOR ONE SECOND. HE, THE, UH, THE, THE HOMEOWNER TODAY EAST OF ME IS ESTHER ANTE, AND I SPOKE WITH HER MULTIPLE TIMES. SHE HAS THAT PROPERTY AS A RENTAL, AND SHE IS IN FAVOR. UM, I, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE FORMAT OF THIS MEETING WAS THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO EITHER CALL IN OR WE WOULD PROVIDE THEIR NUMBERS AND THEY WOULD CALL BACK. AND SO, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ONE, UH, I GUESS REASON MAYBE FOR CONTINUANCE. BUT, UM, SO SHE'S IN FAVOR DIRECTLY TO HER EAST. THAT GENTLEMAN'S ALSO IN FAVOR, AND I HAVE A, A SIGNED LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM THEM WHEN I INITIALLY WENT OUT. AND THAT WAS, THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED TO STAFF. AND THEN DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF THEM IS, IS, UM, ANOTHER GENTLEMAN, UH, WHITNEY. AND HE IS PICKING UP THAT PROPERTY AS WELL. AND HE IS IN SUPPORT. SO 3, 4, 4 OF US ON THE, ON THE FACING. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO TALK TO ANYBODY ELSE THAT WAS ON THAT BLOCK. AND I'VE KNOCKED MULTIPLE TIMES. OKAY. AND, UH, MR. MCLEAR, SO, UM, WHEN YOU WERE, UM, CONSIDERING THE ZONING FOR THIS, UH, PROPERTY, THE, UM, SO, SO YOU DID THE I D Z. SO WHERE DID YOU ALSO HAVE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE R FIVE, UH, CD AND DID YOU THINK THAT WOULDN'T FIT FOR A PARTICULAR REASON IN YOUR FIRST CONSIDERATION? THE, THE, THE INITIAL AGAIN, WAS C TWO. THAT'S WHAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR. AND, AND SO IT, THAT WAS JUST BASED ON LOOKING AT THE ZONING MAP AND SEEING THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S 35 PACING IS C TWO. SO THAT SEEMED TO ME THE LOGICAL, UM, LOGICAL FUTURE USE. UH, AFTER TALKING TO STAFF, UM, AND REAL AND, AND GOING THROUGH SOME OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ZONING CHANGES THAT WE COULD APPLY FOR, IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO GO SEE TWO BECAUSE WE, WE, IF WE ARE SANDWICHED BETWEEN TWO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THEN THE SETBACKS ARE, ARE PRETTY ONEROUS. AND, UH, BUILDING A STRUCTURE IN THE REAR WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ORDER TO, UM, TO, TO GET THE STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, IN ORDER TO HAVE A, A EITHER A RESIDENTIAL, UH, UNIT, UM, AND TO HAVE THE PARKING SPACE THAT WE WANTED, THEN IDZ ONE WAS THE ONLY THING THAT, THAT I'M AWARE OF THAT WE COULD GO FOR, UM, BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, THE R FIVE CD AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, I'M STILL UNCLEAR AS THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO OTHER THAN THE HOURS OF OPERATION, WHICH IF, UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF IT'S BETWEEN THE HOURS OF OPERATION AND GOING, YOU KNOW, SEVEN TO SIX, UH, 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM IF THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IN THE R FIVE CD AND THE, UH, COMMERCIAL, THEN BEING A REAL ESTATE OFFICE, WE, WE MEET WITH CLIENTS WHEN THEY CAN MEET WITH US. AND SO IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR US TO LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO 6:00 PM IF WE GO SHOW HOUSES UNTIL, YOU KNOW, 7 30, 8 O'CLOCK AND THEN COME BACK AND WE NEED TO WRITE A CONTRACT. SO THAT WOULD BE MY BIGGEST HANGUP WITH THE R FIVE CD, IN ADDITION TO THE INABILITY TO PUT ANOTHER STRUCTURE IN THE REAR. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. SO STEPH, WERE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER COMMISSIONER ROMERO'S, UH, QUESTION? YES, WE WERE, WE SCROLLED THROUGH ALL THE EMAILS REALLY QUICKLY. UM, THEY'RE ALL ON SHARE STREET. THERE WERE NONE ON I 35. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL AS HE ASKED THE QUESTION. I SECOND MR. GIBBONS. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER JONES WITH A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT STAFF DID ON THIS CASE, AND I CERTAINLY SEE WHY THEY COULD RECOMMEND DENIAL. UM, YOU KNOW, BUT AS MY QUESTIONING INDICATED, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, AGAIN, IT'S FACING 35 A, A HIGHWAY THAT RUNS FROM MEXICO TO CANADA THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY. UM, YOU KNOW, THE 35 [02:10:01] WAS PLACED TO CUT IN HALF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN IT MOVED THE ROAD FROM SAN ANTONIO TO AUSTIN, MOVED FROM OLD AUSTIN HIGHWAY TO HERE. GRANTED IT WAS 70 YEARS AGO OR SO, UM, YOU KNOW, CAN'T MAKE THIS RESIDENTIAL USE NECESSARILY CONTINUE INDEFINITELY. AND LOOKING AT THE SUPER BLOCK BETWEEN PINE AND NEW BRAUNFELS FACING 75, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING THE COMMERCIAL ALREADY GO IN THERE. AND SO FOR THAT REASON, AGAIN, THANK YOU STAFF FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATION. I'M, I'M GONNA VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS MOTION. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OH, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ANTE. UM, COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, I STRUGGLE WITH THIS CASE. MM-HMM. , UM, BECAUSE I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER, UM, SINCE MOST OF US ON THE COMMISSION, REMEMBER THAT WE HAD THE CASE HERE JUST A FEW, UM, MONTHS AGO THAT WAS DOWN THE STREET. AND BY STREET I MEAN 35, UM, I BELIEVE IT WAS 35 AND WALTERS, UM, WHERE WE HAD THE QUICK TRIP, UM, POTENTIALLY GOING IN. UM, AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, TAKING RESIDENTIAL AND, UM, CONVERTING IT TO COMMERCIAL AT A HARD CORNER, UM, OF A, OF THE, OF 35 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY AND WALTERS, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS A FOUR SIX LANE ROAD. UM, AND THERE WERE OBVIOUSLY OTHER ISSUES RELATED TO THAT. UM, WE HAVE THAT CASE, WE HAD ANOTHER CASE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM THERE. IT WAS REALLY SIMILAR. IT, I JUST, I HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS, EVEN THOUGH I THINK FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, HAVING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RIGHT NEXT TO, UM, UH, A MAJOR INTERSTATE IS, IS MAYBE NOT THE MOST IDEAL. I STILL HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS WITH INTRODUCING COMMERCIAL, UM, IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY MID-BLOCK, AND NOT ONLY THINKING ABOUT THE HOMES THAT ARE FACING 35, BUT AS STAFF NOTED, A LOT OF THE OPPOSITION CAME FROM, UH, SHARER, WHICH IS THE KIND OF INTERIOR STREET. SO THIS WOULD BE BACKING UP TO THAT. SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS. AND WHILE I DON'T THINK THE USE IS PARTICULARLY INTENSE, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE A REAL ESTATE OFFICE OR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE IN THE FUTURE, WE DO HAVE AN INCREASED BUILDING, UM, INCREASED DENSITY. THEY DID INDICATE THAT THAT TWO STORY BUILDING, YOU KNOW, COULD BE A RESIDENTIAL UNIT OR AN OFFICE. SO, UM, I'M NOT, I HAVEN'T MADE UP MY MIND ON THIS ONE. UM, BUT I, I DO UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT STAFF'S CONCERNS WITH THIS CASE, AND I DO SHARE SOME OF THOSE SAME CONCERNS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. UM, AND I ECHO, UM, COMMISSIONER GREY HOUSE'S, UH, OBSERVATIONS ON THIS, UH, AS A REALTOR, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT BUSINESS, AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT COMING AND GOING AND HOW OFTEN WE'RE IN AND OUT OF THOSE OFFICES. I JUST, UH, HAVE NEVER BEEN A SUPPORTER OF PLACING, UH, UH, COMMERCIAL BUSINESS OPERATION IN THE MIDDLE OF RESIDENTIAL SECTION. WERE THE, THAT'S THE LAST REMAINING SEGMENT OF RESIDENTIAL OR NOT. IT IS STILL THAT, AND I WOULD NOT WANNA FORCE, UH, THAT TO HAVE TO TURN OVER ANY EARLIER THAN IT MUST BE DONE. I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES IN THE AREA THAT ARE ALREADY COMMERCIALLY ZONED IN, MAYBE WOULD BE BETTER LOCATED FOR THIS. UH, I ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THE RESIDENTS BEHIND IT, AND AGAIN, MY CONCERN IS SIGNAGE AND WHAT MIGHT COME IF WE GIVE I D Z. AND THE BROKER DECIDES IT'S NOT A GOOD LOCATION FOR HIS BUSINESS AND HE MOVES OUT. SO I DON'T FIND THAT I CAN SUPPORT THIS, UM, CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, COMMISSIONER WHITE. I ECHO A LOT OF THE SAME SENTIMENTS THAT THAT, THAT EVERYBODY HAS, UH, HAS JUST MENTIONED. UM, BUT I THINK HERE, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, UH, SORT OF SUMMED IT UP THE BEST. UM, I THINK THIS IS JUST A, AN INSTANT FOR NOW. THE WRITINGS, UH, THE WRITINGS ON THE WALL AND I'LL, AND I'LL BE SUPPORTING, UH, THIS MOTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. SORRY, JUST BRIEFLY, UH, THE CURRENT SLIDE SAYS ITEM NUMBER 10, I THINK THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 12, JUST FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, [02:15:01] UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SO MANY CASES COME BY THAT ARE ON THIS STRIP REVOKE WELL OF, UH, ROAD ON 35 AND HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH, COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL. AND I HAVE TO WONDER TWO THINGS THAT SOMETIMES LAND DEVELOPS ITSELF OR THE COMMUNITY ORGANICALLY DEVELOPS ITSELF. AND THAT HERE WE ARE AGAIN, ASKED THE QUESTION, CAN I BE A BUSINESS INSTEAD OF A RESIDENTIAL? AND IT, THE OBVIOUS IS THERE BECAUSE YOU'RE ON 35, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. BUT WHAT I THINK IS KIND OF KEY HERE IS THAT WE HAVE A NEW COMMISSIONER WHO COME ALONG AND LOOKED AT THIS AND SAYS, THAT SHOULD BE COMMERCIAL. AND WE AS COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD SEVERAL CASES ON THIS STRIP AND GONE BACK AND FORTH, BACK AND FORTH. AND THEN THE COMMISSIONER FROM D TWO WHO'S NEW TO THE COMMISSION, LOOKS AT THAT AND SAYS, I APPROVE IT. AND I, I THINK THAT THAT HAS A LOT OF WEIGHT TO, TO ME, BECAUSE WE HAVE GRAPPLED BETWEEN SO MANY OF THESE CASES. AND I WONDER IF ORGANICALLY IT IS TRYING TO MOVE ITSELF INTO A NEW POSITION ON THAT STRIP OF LAND ALONG 35, AND WE SHOULD ALL, WE SHOULD TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROBABLY ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, AS IT SEEMS TO JUST DO ORGANICALLY. AND I THINK, UH, THE COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT TWO IS SPOT ON, AND SHE, SHE JUST SAID IT AS IT WAS. YES, I APPROVE THAT. AND COMMISSIONER BUSANTE GAVE A GOOD SUMMARY AS WELL THAT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO MOVE AWAY FROM WHAT WE THINK IS A ROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, ROUND PEG INTO A SQUARE HOLE. AND TODAY I THINK WE'RE PUTTING A ROUND PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? UM, I JUST WANTED TO TALK, AS I'M STILL THINKING THIS THROUGH, UM, I THINK IF ANYBODY ON THAT BLOCK FACE HAD COME OUT IN OPPOSITION, THAT WOULD'VE COMPLETELY SWAYED ME AGAINST THIS. UM, I'M STILL TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE PEOPLE ON THE BACKSTREET. UM, I THINK WHAT THEY SAY IS IMPORTANT TOO, BUT IN A WAY, I ALSO THINK THIS IS BUFFERING THEM FROM A MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USE THAT COULD COME IN LATER BEHIND THEM. UM, I'VE NEVER BEEN A BIG OPPONENT OF PROFESSIONAL OFFICES IN RESIDENTIAL, BUT I THINK WHAT STAFF SAID HERE IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT AND, AND NOT TO BE DISCOUNTED. SO I GUESS IN CONCLUSION, I'M STILL ON THE FENCE TOO. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? OKAY, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, THEN UH, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR APPROVAL, UH, BY COMMISSIONER JONES. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE? NO. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. COMMISSIONER WING. HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SY? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL BY A VOTE OF NINE TO TWO. THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, UH, HOW MANY CA WE HAVE? UM, WHAT ONE, WHAT, FOUR MORE CASES TO GO? FIVE. FIVE, FIVE MORE. OKAY. SO LET'S, I THINK JUST, UH, MAYBE, UM, A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. SIX. SIX MORE. 21 AS WELL. SIX MORE WITH NUMBER 18? YES. MM-HMM. . . OKAY. . UM, THE COMMISSIONER'S OKAY. WITH A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GONNA DO A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. SO WE'RE GONNA MUTE OUR CAMERAS. SO IT'S CURRENTLY THREE 20, WE'LL SAY 3 22. SO WE'LL BE BACK AT 3 27. CAMERAS UNMUTED, PLEASE, UH, MUTE YOUR MICROPHONES AS WELL, PLEASE. [02:20:04] ALL RIGHT. WE ARE GOOD TO GO. ALRIGHT, SO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM [14. 20-3271 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700062 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "IDZ UC-4 AHOD" Infill Development Zone North St. Mary's Street Urban Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for Multi-Family not to exceed thirty-six (36) units per acre to "IDZ-2 UC-4 AHOD" Medium Density Infill Development Zone North St. Mary's Street Urban Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for fifty (50) dwelling units per acre on Lots 3 through 7, Block 1, NCB 6789; Lots 1 and 2, Block 3, NCB 3029; and Lot 20, Block 3, NCB 3029, located at 715-731 East Locust Street and 326-328 West Grayson Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner, (210) 207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] NUMBER 14. THIS IS DONE IN CASE OUT 2020, UH, 0 62, WHERE YOU'RE GOING FROM I D V, UH, TO I D V WITH USES PERMITTED FOR MULTI-FAMILY NOT TO EXCEED 50 UNITS PER ACRE, LOCATED AT 7 1 5 7 31 EAST LO LOPEZ STREET AT 3 26 3 28 WEST GRAYSON STREET. THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED ZERO RETURN IN FAVOR, ONE RETURN IN OPPOSITION. AND THE ST. MARY'S COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. OKAY, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT? UH, YES. HI, THIS IS MIKE NELSON AND, UH, MY PARTNER FRANK KY, IS ALSO ON THE LINE. HELLO? GO AHEAD. YOU CAN PRESENT, SIR. THANK YOU. EXCELLENT. THANKS. UH, HELLO EVERYONE. SO OUR FIRM, URBAN DEVELOPMENT, HAS DONE, UH, FOUR INFILL, UH, URBAN RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS. UH, THREE OF THEM IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS WOULD BE OUR FOURTH. WE ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS LAND ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. WE REZONED IT. WE ACTUALLY SPLIT A LARGE PARCEL OF TWO PARCELS. WE DEVELOPED A 27 UNIT COMPOUND PROJECT ON THE PARCEL ADJACENT TO THIS SITE TO THE EAST. AND WE REZONED THIS PROPERTY ONCE FROM READY ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UH, TO ABOUT 36 UNIT PER ACRE LEVEL. OUR, UH, INTENT IS TO DO ANOTHER, UH, IN INFO RESIDENTIAL PROJECT HERE, VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONE THAT WE'VE DONE, UH, NEXT TO IT. THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE IN THE DENSITY OF THE PROJECT IS REALLY NOT TO CHANGE THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, BUT REALLY TO CHANGE THE NUMBER OF UNITS. I THINK, UH, AS THE YEARS GONE. AND ALSO WE HAVE, UH, APPLIED FOR AND GRANTED CCHI BENEFIT IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE NEW CIP PROGRAM, THERE'S AN AFFORDABILITY REQUIREMENT. WE'VE CHOSEN TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND MAKE A CERTAIN SET OF THEM SMALLER. AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S DRIVING THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS. INSTEAD OF DOING, UH, A PROJECT WITH 36 UNITS PER ACRE, LARGER UNITS, WE'RE NOW DOING A PROJECT THAT'S 50 UNITS PER ACRE WITH SMALLER UNITS. BUT THE SAME GENERAL OVERALL FACT. AND WE WOULD JUST NOTE THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS, THERE'S CLEARLY ONE IN TRANSITION. WE, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS WE'RE AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE TREND WITH OUR FIRST PROJECT, YOU KNOW, OVER SEVEN YEARS AGO. AND THAT'S ENGENDERED, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ALONG THE WAY, INCLUDING THE ST. MARY'S PLACE. UH, PROJECT THAT'S ADJACENT TO OUR SITE ON THE WEST. UM, THERE HAVE BEEN THREE MAJOR REZONINGS, THE OTHER SITES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. UH, THOSE HAVE ALL BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN, THAN THE REZONING WERE, WE'RE PROPOSING HERE. UH, ONE PROJECT ACTUALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR CROSSING TOWN HOME PROJECT WAS BROUGHT BY DEVELOPMENT TO BE AN 11 STORY MIXED USE POWER WITH OVER 300 UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, THROUGH A RECENT ZONING WAS APPROVED. UH, OUR ZONING CHANGE WAS APPROVED AT TWO 18 WEST JOSEPHINE, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST. UH, ALSO ANOTHER LARGE EXCUSE PROJECT WITH, UH, OVER 300 UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY. AND PROBABLY A YEAR AGO, THE SITE JUST ACROSS THE STREET, UH, FROM US WAS APPROVED AT W COMMISSION FOR 75 UNITS AN ACRE, A SIX STORY CONDO PROJECT. [02:25:02] SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING CHANGE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN ANY OF THE OTHER RECENT RESOUNDING THAT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IT'S PRECISELY DESIGNED TO BE ABLE TO OFFER MORE AFFORDABLE, SMALLER UNITS. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, REMIND ME YOUR NAME AGAIN, PLEASE. UH, IT'S MIKE NELSON. UH, NELSON WITH AN M OR WITH AN N NELSON? THAT'S CORRECT. WITH AN M AS IT MIKE. UHHUH. AND NELSON. LIKE M AS IN MARY, E L OR N AS IN NANCY NELSON. M AS IN M AS IN MARY, E L SS O N. THANK YOU MR. NELSON. OKAY. SO IF YOU WILL, UM, UH, WAIT ON THE LINE, I'M GONNA SEE IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN YOU, IF THERE IS, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TIME TO RESPOND IF YOU SO CHOOSE. AND THEN ALSO, UH, WE MAY HAVE COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY? OF COURSE. OKAY. OKAY, STEPH, THANK YOU. WOULD YOU, UH, LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. THERE WAS A LETTER RECEIVED FROM LA GARCIA AT 2102 NORTH ST. MARY'S. I AM IN OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGE BECAUSE THE AREA OF INTEREST IS NOT LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN 36 UNITS PER ACRE. THE MOST OF THIS AREA CAN ACCOMMODATE IF 36 UNITS AND THEY WILL BE CROWDED AS WELL. IN ADDITION, IT CAN PROVIDE E SIX UNITS, WHICH WILL PROMOTE STREET PARKING CONGESTION AND INCREASE OF TRAFFIC THAT WILL NOT BE ACCEPT ACCEPTABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. I WILL RECOMMEND TO CONTINUE WITH CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT MEDIUM INTENSITY INFIELD DEVELOPMENT. NORTH STATE MARY'S URBAN CORRIDOR OVERLAY DISTRICT WITH USE IS PERMITTED FOR MULTIFAMILY NOT TO EXCEED 36 UNITS PER ACRE, AND NO CHANGING TO THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY OF PROVIDING MY POSITION. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU NEED ANY OTHER INFORMATION. HAVE A GREAT DAY, . THE OTHER LETTER IS FROM OTIS PARCHMAN. THIS MESSAGE IS BEING SENT ON BEHALF OF THE ST. MARY'S PLACE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, H O A. OUR RESERVATION ABOUT THIS PROJECT WHICH ORDERS OUR PROPERTY, IS THE DENSITY BEING CONTEMPLATED OUR SEVEN UNITS FROM, UM, ST. MARY'S AND LOCUST AND BORDER ON THE PROJECT UNDER CONSIDERATION. THE OTHER SIDE OF SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ORDERED BY 27 UNIT PROJECT BUILT ON PROPERTY LARGER IN AREA THAN THE AREA BEING CONSIDERED HERE. IT IS OUR FEELING THAT 36 UNITS PER PRESENTLY ZONED IS ALREADY TOO MANY, MUCH LESS AN INCREASE TO 50 UNITS, AND THE FURTHER INCREASES IN VEHICULAR TRAFFIC WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE AREA CAUSING PARKING, CONGESTION AND SAFETY ISSUES. FOR THESE REASONS WE OPPOSE THIS ZONING CHANGE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR OUR CONCERN, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. SINCERELY, OTIS PARCHMAN, THAT IS ALL, THAT IS ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU MR. NELSON. WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO, UH, RESPOND FIVE MINUTES OR LESS? UM, TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. NELSON, DON'T FORGET TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR. SORRY, WE'RE HERE. THIS IS BRIAN , MY PARTNER. UM, YEAH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, UM, OF, OF EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, THEY, EVERY SITE IS TIGHT. UM, THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION AND ON STREET PARKING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DEALT WITH IT WHILE TRYING TO, UH, BUILD OUR FIRST PROJECT. UH, THE ONE THAT THEY ADJUSTED WAS 27 UNIT ONE, UM, ADJACENT TO THIS ONE. AND, UH, THE STREETS OVER THERE ARE, ARE, UH, UNDER YEARS OF ARREST FROM THE PREVIOUS INSTITUTIONAL INDUSTRIAL USES THAT WERE FLASHER EQUIPMENT SERVICES. UH, WE'VE SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS WORKING WITH T C I OR ONLY T C I AND THE RIGHT OF WAY DEPARTMENT AND PROCURED, UM, WE HAVE PROCURED FUNDS AND UNTIL I GOT PUT ON HOLD, UH, BUT THEY, THEY ASSURE ME THAT THEY'LL BE BACK ONCE THE, ONCE THE, THE, THE VALVE GETS TURNED BACK ON. BUT TO, UM, TO CHANGE THE PARKWAY, UM, AND THE RIGHT OF WAY TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, ACTUAL, ACTUAL PROPER ENTRY PARKING, UH, CONNECT TO ALL THE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH OF THE, BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET FOR THE ENTIRETY OF LOCAL TO MEANS, UH, ST. MARY AND AND BETWEEN ST. MARY [02:30:01] AND . UM, THE ON STREET PARKING, FOR THE MOST PART, UH, WE HAVEN'T NOTICED THE BYPRODUCT OF OUR TOWN HOME PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE AREA, BUT OF SOME OF THE, THE REVITALIZATION OF THE, OF THE, UM, COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES ALONG ST. MARY'S INCLUDING, UH, A, A, A BAR CALLED THE LONESOME ROSE, WHICH IS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, IF YOU WILL, OF GRAYSON AND ST. MARY'S ADJACENT TO THEIR PROPERTY. UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF CARS THAT GO AND ATTEND THE LIVE MUSIC EVENTS THERE. UM, SO I, I'M NOT SURE, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, WHERE THE, UM, WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THE, THE, THE, THE ADDITIONAL CONGESTION OR, I MEAN, YES, FOR THE UNITS AND THAT'S THE PEOPLE HAVE CARS, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY EVIDENCE IN THE PAST OF A GUN PROJECT, UM, REALLY CONTRIBUTING THAT. UH, I WOULD ADD EVEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S CERTAINLY ADEQUATE PARKING IN THE PROJECT. YOU KNOW, EVERY UNIT IN THE PROJECT WILL HAVE AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, ONE SPACE, AND MANY OF THEM WILL HAVE TWO SPACES. UM, SO FOR THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE EXPECTED TO LIVE THERE, REALLY, WHETHER IT WAS A 36 UNIT PER ACRE DENSITY AND WE BUILDING LARGER UNITS, OR WHETHER IT'S A 50 UNIT, UH, PER ACRE BUILDING, SMALLER UNITS, UH, THERE'S ADEQUATE PARKING FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS. UM, CERTAINLY THERE'LL BE MORE TRAFFIC TO THE SITE THAN WHEN IT'S A, A VACANT WAREHOUSE, WHICH IS ITS CURRENT STATE. UM, AND PEOPLE WILL VISIT, AND THERE MAY BE PEOPLE OCCASIONALLY PARKING ON THE STREET, BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE ZONING CHANGE WILL SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, A AFFECT THE CONGESTION OR ON STREET PARKING. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, YEAH, SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UM, FOR BOTH THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS STAFF, UM, TO THE APPLICANT. AND, AND MAYBE I, I, I MISSED IT. DID YOU, I LET US KNOW THAT YOU, I BELIEVE THAT I SAW OR REMEMBER THAT THIS PROPERTY WILL HAVE A PARKING GARAGE, IS THAT CORRECT? IT WILL HAVE, UH, TUCKED UNDER PARKING UNDERNEATH ONE OF THE BUILDINGS. UH, SO IT, YEAH, IT'S NOT ABOUT A GARAGE, BUT THE OTHER SPACES, YOU KNOW, TUCKED UNDER, UH, AT LEAST PART OF THE BUILDING, THERE WAS SOME GROUND FLOOR UNITS IN THE FACE, THE STREET ON GRAYSON, AND BEHIND THOSE UNITS, UNDERNEATH THE FIRST FLOOR UNIT, THERE ARE, UH, PARKING SPACES FOR THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING, AND THE TOWN HOMES ALL HAVE GARAGES. OKAY, GREAT. THAT'S HELPFUL. UM, AND SO HOW LARGE IS THIS DEVELOPMENT? IS IT JUST LIKE A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE? THE SITE IS ROUGHLY 1.17 ACRES. UH, OKAY. YOU KNOW, THE, SO THEN WHAT'S THE TOTAL, SORRY? WHAT'S THE TOTAL NUMBER OF, OF UNITS THAT YOU'RE PLANNING OR THAT YOU HAVE PLANNED, UH, TO BUILD HERE? UH, IT WOULD BE UP TO 58 UNITS, WHICH IS THE 50 UNITS PER ACRE, UH, AT THE 1.17. OKAY. AND, AND HOW MANY WOULD YOU HAVE BUILT OTHERWISE WITHOUT THAT? CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT MATH? WE SURE. YEAH. WE WOULD'VE BUILT 41 UNITS AT THE 36 UNITS AN ACRE. YOU KNOW, THE, THE CURRENT ZONING THEY WOULD. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AN INCREASE OF 17 UNITS, IS THAT ABOUT RIGHT? UH, THAT'S, I WANT TO SAY MORE LIKE 58 TO 41, YEAH, 17 UNITS. OKAY. PERFECT. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED, UM, UH, SEED SHIP INCENTIVES. SO THEN IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, UM, THERE WILL BE A RESTRICTED COVENANT THAT'S RECORDED AGAINST THE PROPERTY THAT ENSURES THAT THOSE UNITS ARE GOING TO BE USED, UM, AS AFFORDABLE UNITS, UM, FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THERE'S A FIVE YEAR DEEDED RESTRICTION, AND WE'D HAVE 15 UNITS DESIGNATED FOR SALE TO, UH, BUYERS MAKING LESS THAN 120%, OR HOUSEHOLDS MAKING LESS THAN 120% OF A M I. OKAY, PERFECT. UM, OKAY, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, FOR THE STAFF, UM, ON THIS, I NOTICED THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE CATEGORY FOR [02:35:01] THIS IS EMPLOYMENT, UM, FLEX MIXED USE. AND, UM, IS THERE SOMEONE WHO CAN KIND OF WALK US THROUGH, UM, I, I KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CHANGES AND, AND I THINK A RID THAT WAS ISSUED, BECAUSE IF I JUST GO AND I LOOK AT THE PLAN AND THE LAND USE CATEGORY DEFINITIONS, IT APPEARS THAT THIS WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO SUPPORT UP TO 33 UNITS AN ACRE, WHICH OBVIOUSLY IT, IT WAS ALREADY HIGHER THAN THAT, BUT CAN YOU KIND OF WALK ME THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF, OF HOW WE INTERPRET THAT? SURE. SO THE LAND USE CATEGORIES WERE ADOPTED, UM, A A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO. AND THEN THE, UH, PLAN FOR THE MIDTOWN REGIONAL CENTER PLAN WAS, UH, ADOPTED WITH THOSE NEW LAND USE CATEGORIES AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE LAND USE CATEGORIES. UH, WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS, UH, TO AMEND I D D AS WELL AS ADD R ONE AND R TWO INTO THE ZONING DISTRICT. AND, UM, SINCE THAT WAS THEN AFTER THE COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE CATEGORY WERE ADOPTED, OUR DEPARTMENT PLANNING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WORKED ON A BRIDGE TOGETHER IN ORDER TO, UH, MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHERE THOSE NEW ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, FIT IN THESE NEW COMPREHENSIVE LAND CATEGORY. AND SO AS A RESULT, I D D ONE, I D TWO, AND I D THREE ARE A CONSISTENT LAND USE CATEGORY WITH THE EMPLOYMENT, UH, FLEX MIXED USE LAND USE CATEGORY. SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT MEANS IS NO PLAN AMENDMENT IS REQUIRED. OKAY. PERFECT. THAT IS REALLY HELPFUL. OKAY, THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALRIGHT. SEEING NO OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, THANKS. UM, AND, AND I WAS GOING TO PULL THIS CASE EVEN, UM, IF, IF THERE HADN'T BEEN OPPOSITION, UM, JUST BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A CHANCE TO, FOR US TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT WHEN IT IS AN I D Z, UM, CASE, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE INCREASING DENSITY OR INTENSITY, JUST SO THAT, UM, THAT MYSELF AS WELL AS THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS GET A CHANCE TO, TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT THE PROJECT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. AND, UM, KIND OF SOME OF THE, THE REASONING FOR, UH, THE, THE I D Z ZONING, UM, IN THIS CASE, UM, I, I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS REZONING. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE SOJO AND THEIR TEAM WORKING WITH OUR OFFICE. UM, THEY ALSO WORKED, I KNOW IT WASN'T MENTIONED, THEY WORKED WITH THE TOBIN HILL, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, WHO I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH WHO SUPPORTS THIS, UH, AND, UM, REALLY APPRECIATE THEIR COMMITMENT TO AFFORDABILITY IN THIS AREA. UM, THIS AREA HAS SOME OF THE HIGHEST LAND PRICES IN SAN ANTONIO, UM, AND ESSENTIALLY LOCATED TO DOWNTOWN. SO PROVIDING, UM, HOUSING THAT IS SAFE AND SECURE AND ALSO AFFORDABLE FOR FOLKS WHO WORK IN THE DOWNTOWN OR NEAR DOWNTOWN AREA IS REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, THIS AREA IS OBVIOUSLY EXPERIENCING LIKE MANY OTHER AREAS AROUND DOWNTOWN RAPID GENTRIFICATION AND JUST A REAL LACK OF AFFORDABILITY. UM, I THINK OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT HERE, THIS IS A SMALL FOOTPRINT. UM, SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A REALLY LARGE INCREASE IN THE, UH, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS. UM, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 17 AND, AND OF THOSE 1715 ARE GOING TO BE AFFORDABLE, UM, AND OF THE FACT THAT THE PARKING WILL ALSO BE, IT'S REQUIRED TO BE PARKED AT 50%. UM, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE BUILDING SOME, YOU KNOW, TOUGH UNDER PARKING AND TRYING TO MAKE GOOD USE OF THEIR SPACE. UM, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS LOCATED NEAR A BUS LINE, UM, YOU KNOW, ST. MARY'S, AND SO THERE WILL BE SOME FOLKS WHO WILL BE ABLE TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO JOBS THAT ARE DOWNTOWN. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AS OUR CITY IS TRANSFORMING AND GROWING AND ADDING DENSITY IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS, I THINK THAT THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION. I THINK THERE ARE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT, I DON'T THINK THAT DENSITY, UM, AND AFFORDABILITY ARE THE END ALL BE ALL, BUT I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION THAT IT REALLY MAKES SENSE. UH, SO FOR THAT REASON, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 14. SECOND. THANK YOU, MR. MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? I [02:40:01] OKAY. SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRUB? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER ? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE. HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBON? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. 11 ZERO. [15. 20-3311 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700063 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "RM-4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-3 AHOD" Single-Family Residential Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 1, the east ½ of Block 21, NCB 619, located at 1102 Wyoming Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210)207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] ALRIGHT, ITEM NUMBER, WE LOST YOUR AUDIO. MISS CHRISTIE. OH, GO AHEAD. CAT MUTED ME. . UM, ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM RM FOUR A H O D, THE R THREE A H O D, LOCATED IN 1102 WYOMING STREET. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED, ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, MEN IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE CURRENT IRON FOUR RESIDENTIAL MIX DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED R THREE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT IS ALSO A SUITABLE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY. IT WOULD ENABLE THE APPLICANT TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY INTO TWO LOTS. STAFF APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES. OKAY. YOU CAN PRESENT NOW. UH, WHAT'S YOUR NAME, SIR? UH, , UH, LIKE, UH, RIO, LIKE C A R R I L L O OR WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? OKAY. OKAY, GO AHEAD, MR. CARILLO. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO I START, OR? YES, PLEASE, SIR. CALLING FROM AN M FOUR, UH, TO AN R THREE BECAUSE WE WANT SUBDIVIDE IT TO BUILD TWO HOMES, UH, SO WE CAN BE THE R THREE ZONING AND TO BE A R FOUR. SO THE ZONING INFORMATION RECOMMENDED R THREE, BUT WE SPOKE TO UB LEWIS, THE HEAD OF THE, THE DENVER HEIGHTS. UH, HE RECOMMENDED THAT AS WELL, AND HE DID, GAVE US A GREEN LIGHT TO DO THAT PROJECT FOR THE TWO HOUSES AND THE R THREE. SO THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE APPLYING FOR R THREE ZONING . OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. RIO. IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY ON THE LINE, WE WILL, UH, LISTEN TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT. AND ALSO, UH, COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO STEPH. OKAY. THANK YOU, STEPH. UM, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC CALLER. OKAY. , UM, STAFF. I, I JUST, IF MAYBE YOU HEARD THAT BETTER THAN WE DID, I COULD BARELY MAKE OUT ANYTHING. CAN YOU, UH, KIND OF SUM UP WHAT HE SAID? YES. HIS CONCERNS WERE RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, UH, REGARDING, UH, POTENTIAL DIRT POLLUTION AT THE DOME, AND HE WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT HAD BEEN MITIGATED BEFORE ANY OTHER KINDS OF DEVELOPMENTS ARE CONSIDERED. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE OUR [02:45:01] LIVE CALLER NOW. I HAVE, I HAVE MR. ORTIZ ON THE LINE. MR. REMINDER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. SURE. MIKE, THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY CALL. MY NAME'S CARL ORTIZ. I SAID THAT 1110 WYOMING STREET, ONE HOUSE OVER FROM THE . I'M NOT OPPOSED OF THE DIVIDED, BUT MY WHOLE CONCERN IS I DO NOT LIKE TO SEE MAKE A MANSION BEING DEVELOPED IN THAT CORNER OFF. THE REASON IS BECAUSE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS SO HISTORIC AND IT WON'T BLEND IN. MAKE MAN WILL NOT BLEND IN WITH AING HOMES THAT'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME. AS FROM MY HOUSE ITSELF, IT'S 110 YEARS OLD. SO THINGS THE MODERN TO 110 YEAR OLD HOME ALL MATCH EACH OTHER. THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE, AS WELL AS HEARING THE OTHER SCHOOL PARTNER OFF OF THE ISSUE. AND AS WELL AS I'D LIKE TO SEE THIS DENVER HEIGHTS BECOME HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTUALLY, BECAUSE WE DOWN THE STREET FROM A NATIONAL MILITARY THAT DOESN'T GET RECOGNIZED THAT MUCH. BUT, AND OVERALL, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MANSION DEVELOP ANYMORE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF VACANT HOMES THAT HAVE A LOT OF HISTORY IN IT AND OF BEING TORN DOWN AND WHO KNOWS WHO HAD LIVED IN THOSE HOUSES BEFORE. AND I LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE INVEST IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMIT A COMEBACK WITH EXISTING HELP THAT ARE VACANT, AND WE JUST NEED TO FIND THE RIGHT PEOPLE WILL GO IN THERE AND RENOVATE THESE HOMES LIKE THEY DID WITH THIS ONE. LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THEY HAVE, YES, IT DID HAVE A BAD NAME AT ONE TIME AND EVERYTHING, BUT WE WANNA CLEAN IT UP, BUT WE WANNA IT IN WITH HOME THAT HAD BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. SO PLEASE CONSIDER THAT. NO MAKE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO, MR. ORTIZ, RIGHT? IS THAT YOUR LAST NAME? YEAH, MA'AM. YOU, OKAY. SO I'M JUST GONNA CHECK TO SEE IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU REAL QUICK. UM, ANY, OKAY. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? MS. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM HE'S USING THIS. WAS HE SAYING MEGA A MANSION? YES, MA'AM. ME THAT IT JUST LIKE, IT JUST LIKE THREE MANION, LIKE, JUST DOESN'T, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T BLEND. I VERY, VERY PROUD OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOMES AND THERE'S SO MANY VACANT HOMES. OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY, AND, UH, YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. YES. COULD THE APPLICANT, UM, ADDRESS THAT ISSUE? YES, THAT, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SWITCHING FROM AN INSTEAD OF DOING A DEVELOPMENT WITH FOUR UNITS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING A SMALLER OFFICE TO MAKE TWO SMALL HOMES. UH, THE PHONE SHOULD BE AROUND 1550. UH, SO IF THAT WON'T BE MENTIONED, THERE WILL BE, UH, THREE, TWO REGULAR STANDARD HOMES, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TALKED WITH MR. LEWIS AND THEIR BOARD, UH, IN OUR JANUARY MEETING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE, DID WE LOSE THE CALLER? YES, WE DID. I THINK THE CALLER HUNG UP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WOULD, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THAT THAT WAS ALL WE HAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO MR. CO, UM, CARILLO, UH, DID YOU HAVE, UM, ANY OTHER RESPONSE TO THE COMMENT? FIVE MINUTES OR LESS, PLEASE? ON THE COLOR OR THE VOICEMAIL? EITHER ONE. OH, THE SOLUTIONARY. WE, WE'LL TAKE CARE OF THAT. WE'LL FOLLOW THE CITY GUIDELINES AND LIKE I SAID, ON THE COLLAR, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY MATCH. WE'RE JUST MAKING THE THREE RIGHTER, THREE, TWO, UH, 15 SQUARE FEET HOME, WHICH IS, I THINK A VERY NORMAL IN THAT AREA. UM, THAT'S WHY WE'RE DOING, LIKE I SAID, UH, THE TWO SMALL LOTS. R THREE, FOLLOW THOSE STEP BAGS AND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA SEE IF, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU AND, UH, STEPH, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER FIRST TO, UH, COMMISSIONER [02:50:01] JONES. UM, YES, I THINK THAT'S A VERY REASONABLE PROPOSAL. UM, I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR THE STAFF, UH, RIGHT NOW. OKAY. LET ME JUST SEE IF ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS. SO COMMISSIONER JONES. OKAY, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF, UM, UH, ITEM 15, UH, FOR THE REZONING REQUEST, WE HAVE A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR? THERE'S COMMISSIONER SIPES. SECOND. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER JONES WITH A SECOND ON THE FLOOR FROM COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, COMMENTS? C N N ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRAU? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAM? YES. COMMISSIONER LEE. HI. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. 11 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER [16. 20-3175 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700064 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "AE-1 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Arts and Entertainment Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District and “R-4 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD” Residential Single-Family Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 MLOD-3 MLR-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Martindale Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in “C-2” and for a Hotel on Lots 31 and 32, Block 7, NCB 1440, located at 2203 East Commerce Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] 16 IS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM AE ONE AND R FOUR TO I D Z TWO WITH USE IS PERMITTED IN C TWO AND FOR A HOTEL WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 2203 EAST CONGRESS STREET, THERE WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. JEFFERSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SUPPORT. OKAY. UM, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THIS IS PATRICK CHRISTENSEN. I'M PRESENT. OKAY. IF THE FLOOR IS YOURS, SIR? UH, SURE. THANK YOU. UH, BASICALLY THIS IS THE ALAMO INN. IT'S A HOTEL THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. IT HAS, UH, SOME NEW OWNERS WHO BOUGHT IT, THE REHABBING THE EXISTING, UH, 15 ROOMS AND TRYING TO ADD A TWO STORY BUILDING THAT'LL HAVE 23 ROOMS. FOUR OF THOSE WILL BE A D A COMPLIANT AND WILL BE AN ELEVATOR. UM, ON THE DENVER HEIGHTS. I FAILED TO REACH OUT TO THEM. I DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE, THE CEMETERY ACROSS NEW BRAUNFELS WAS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I DID REACH OUT TO JEFFERSON HEIGHTS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY LOCATED. UH, THEY ARE OKAY WITH THE, THE CHAINS. THEY'RE HAPPY TO SEE SOME INVESTMENT IN THE HOTEL. IT OLDER NEED NEEDS HELP. UM, BUT I WILL REACH OUT TO, I DID REACH OUT TO DENVER HEIGHTS. I BOOKED REY LEWIS THEIR PRESIDENT LAST NIGHT, AND I WILL COME, GO MEET WITH THEM BEFORE WE GO TO COUNSEL JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. IF YOU HEARD THEIR, THEIR OPPOSITION LETTER, IT WAS JUST BECAUSE NO ONE HAD REACHED OUT TO 'EM AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO. BUT BASICALLY WE'RE JUST TRYING TO REHAB AN OLDER HOTEL, ADD SOME ROOMS, UM, AND CLEAN IT UP. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING. AND I WOULD REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT TO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANY, UM, PUBLIC OP UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. THAT'S BASICALLY WHY WE PULLED IT, UM, DOWN INTO INDIVIDUAL. THERE WAS A LETTER RECEIVED FROM DAVE DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. IT SAYS THE DENVER HEIGHTS NA EXECUTIVE BOARD MET ON MAY 18TH AND VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO DISAPPROVE THE RESULTING FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2203 EAST COMMERCE. AND THEN, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER, UH, NOTICES RECEIVED THAT WERE TYPICAL, UM, SLIP NOTICES THAT WERE ALSO OPPOSED THAT BASICALLY SAID ILLEGALLY TOOK THE PROPERTY, UH, WITHOUT PERMISSION. I GUESS BUILDING ACROSS LOT LINES IS WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO. AND, UM, THE OTHER SAYS, NO MORE TAXES. BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. UM, MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT? I, I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR THE COMMISSION TO KNOW THAT WHEN, UM, SHEILA MCNEIL [02:55:01] PASSED THE ARTS ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT FOR THIS AREA, THIS PROPERTY RECEIVED AN AE ONE, WHICH TECHNICALLY DOES NOT ALLOW FOR A HOTEL. SO WE EXPLORED DOING AN AE TWO USE WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A HOTEL. BUT, UM, THE TWO STORY BUILDING WE WANT TO ADD ON COMMERCE STREET, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE I D V FOR A SETBACK ISSUE. UH, THE BUILDING THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED NEW BUILDING IS THE ALAMO BEER BICYCLE FACILITY. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE SEEN THE SMALL CARTS, THE PEOPLE PEDAL AND DRINK BEER THAT KIND OF CRUISE AROUND TOWN. THAT'S THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY. SO IT IS A BUSINESS AND WE WILL NOT BE BUILDING A BUILDING ADJACENT TO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. SO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. WOULD LUCK YOUR SUPPORT? THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES. I DIDN'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. UH, JUST A COMMENT THAT YES, THAT IT DOES NEED REHAB. UM, AND, UH, THE APPLICANT DOES SEEM TO BE WILLING TO TALK WITH THE OTHER ASSOCIATION EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT PART OF IT. UH, IT DOES MAKE REHAB AND SO I WOULD BE, UH, MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. UM, YEAH, PATRICK, DID YOU SAY THE ONE THAT HAS THE LITTLE CARS AND BEER, WHICH IS SORT OF DISTURBING, BUT, UM, IS THAT THE ONE THAT'S, THAT'S AT ONE 14 BELMONT? THAT'S STARTED WITHIN THE HORSESHOE? NO, IT ON COMMERCE. ON COMMERCE, THAT'S, UM, THE TWO PART BUILDINGS. UH, BASICALLY IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, IT'S A LONG COMMERCE STREET UHHUH. UM, IT'S THE SMALL CARTS THAT PEOPLE PEBBLE. I THINK THEY SIT SIX OR EIGHT PEOPLE AND THEY DRINK BEER WHILE THEY'RE BICYCLING THIS CART AROUND TOWN. OKAY. UH, WE'LL LET THAT PASS. UM, SO WHAT, WHAT IS ON THE LOT THAT'S AT ONE 14 BELMONT THAT'S SORT OF SURROUNDED BY THIS? IT'S VACANT IN OUR SITE PLAN. WE DON'T HAVE ANY IMMEDIATE PLANS. I JUST SAID MAYBE FUTURE PARKING, BUT THERE'S NO BUILDING TO BE LOCATED THERE AT THIS TIME, AND WE DON'T SHOW IT ON OUR SITE PLAN. IF THEY WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND, AND REZONE TO INCLUDE THE SITE PLAN FOR THAT, THAT PROPERTY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. UM, IS THE SITE PLAN AVAILABLE? OH, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UH, PATRICK IS, IT IS TWO STORY. IT'S THE ENTIRE L SHAPE OF THIS EXISTING BUILDING, WHICH IS ON THAT CORNER OF COMMERCE. IS, IS THAT ALL GOING BE TWO STORY? THE L THE L SHAPE IS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, AND IT'S ONE STORY. THE BUILDING WE'RE PROPOSING IS TWO STORY. THERE'S A TWO STORY HOTEL ACROSS COMMERCE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THIS PROPERTY, A AND A TWO STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING. SO IT'S NOTHING TOO OUT OF CHARACTER. OKAY. SO THAT L-SHAPED IS WILL BE THE TWO STORY? WELL, OH, IT'S, IT'S ONE STORE. I HAVE LIKE, REALLY TINY HERE. AND HOW MANY, HOW MANY UNITS AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES? UH, WE HAVE 15 UNITS TODAY. WE'RE ADDING 23 INSIDE THE TWO STORY BUILDING. SO A TOTAL OF 38 AND WE'LL HAVE 42 PARKING SPACES, SIX OF WHICH ARE, UH, HANDICAPS. AND HOW MANY YOU THINK IT'LL EMPLOY? WELL, PROBABLY TWO OR THREE MANAGERS AND PROBABLY TWO OR THREE MAINTENANCE STAFF. SO MAYBE SIX PEOPLE, NOT, NOT TOO LARGE OF AN OPERATION. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CADENS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER JONES. UM, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE, UH, ZONING REQUEST AS REQUESTED. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF, UM, ITEM NUMBER 16 BY COMMISSIONER JONES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. C N NONE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRAU? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER TEM? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. [03:00:02] COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SITE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE I AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. 11 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE'RE HAVING TROUBLE REACHING THE APPLICANT FOR ITEM NUMBER 18, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE AHEAD [19. 20-3302 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700068 CD (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-6 CD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for four (4) units on 0.2118 acres out of NCB 861, located at 430 East Magnolia Avenue and "R-6 CD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for four (4) units on 0.2118 acres out of NCB 861, located at 434 East Magnolia Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] TO ITEM NUMBER 19. ITEM 19 IS A REQUEST TO RESUME FROM R SIX A H O V TO R SIX C B A H O V FOR FOUR UNITS ON 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA AND R SIX C B A H O V FOR FOUR UNITS ON FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA. THESE ARE BOTH RESPECTIVELY, 0.2118 ACRES OUT NCV 8 6 1 AND 0.211 ACRES OUT OF NCV 8 6 1 FOR A TOTAL OF 0.4216 ACRES. THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN PAPER. ONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION AND TOKEN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THE CURRENT R SIX IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED ING MAINTAINS THE BASE DISTRICT AND ALLOWS FOR TWO ADDITIONAL HOUSING UNITS PER LOT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT? BRIAN REPRESENT? UH, HELLO. THIS IS WALTER, ER, I REPRESENT THE APPLICANT. HE'S ON THE PHONE WITH ME AS WELL TOO. AND SO, UH, OR BEFORE YOUR DAY, ASKING FOR YOU TO APPROVE OUR PROPOSED ZONING. THIS IS A R SIX, UH, AT FOUR 30 AND 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA. WE ARE ASKING FOR R SIX CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR UNITS. UH, WE HAVE MET WITH THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AT LEAST, UH, FOUR, MAYBE FIVE TIMES NOW. UH, THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THEY SENT US A SUPPORT LETTER THIS MORNING. UH, WE ALSO ARE AWARE THAT THE, THESE TWO PROPERTIES UP FOR HISTORICAL DESIGNATION AND WE HAVE SUBMITTED IN WRITING OUR SUPPORT TO HAVE THESE DESIGNATED HISTORICALLY. SO WE ARE NOT, UH, OPPOSED TO THAT, I BELIEVE THE SCO OF HISTORICAL DESIGNATION, UH, FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL ON JUNE 18TH. UH, SO WE'RE ALL BAR WITH THAT AS WELL. SO, UH, WE'D ASK THAT YOU, UH, APPROVE OUR REQUEST AND WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CERNA. IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY ON THE LINE, UM, TO, WE'RE GONNA LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THAT AND THEN COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. STAFF, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. THERE WERE TWO LETTERS RECEIVED. ONE WAS FROM BRETT COHEN NOTING THAT PER OUR CONVERSATION, PLEASE LET THIS EMAIL SERVICE NOTICE THAT WE DO NOT OPPOSE THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION FOR FOUR 30 AND 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA. WE FULLY SUPPORT THE HISTORICAL DESIGNATION AND GREATLY APPRECIATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING WITH US ON THE ZONING. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME DIRECTLY. ALSO, ANOTHER LETTER FROM GARY NORTHWAY. I'M THE CURRENT RESIDENT OWNER AT FOUR 18 EAST MAGNOLIA AND HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE THE EARLY 1980S. I HAVE SEEN QUITE A FEW CHANGES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME GOOD AND SOME NOT. SO HAVING SAID THAT, I AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED PROPERTIES. THANK YOU, YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE WITH THIS MATTER, GARY NORTHWAY. THOSE ARE THE WRITTEN COMMENTS, AND NOW WE HAVE ONE VOICEMAIL. HI CALLING, UH, ABOUT, UH, NUMBER 1 7 6 8. MY ADDRESS IS FOUR FOUR EAST MAGNOLIA CALLING, UH, TO SAY I'M IN FAVOR. THIS IS A, UM, NONCONFORMING 85. UH, I THINK THAT TRUCTURE ON A LOT IS A [03:05:07] NINE. THAT'S ALL, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, MR. SERNA, WOULD YOU, UH, LIKE FIVE MINUTES OR LESS TO, UM, RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, JUST, JUST A, A FEW THINGS THAT LEFT OUT. UH, NUMBER ONE, I BELIEVE YOU PROVIDED A SIDE PLAN ON, UH, HOW THESE EXISTING STRUCTURES, UH, AND CONDITIONS WOULD, WOULD SIT. AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO NOTE IS THAT I HAVE MET WITH THE COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN TREVINO AND HIS, UH, HIS, UH, STAFF, UH, UH, SDEL. UH, AND THEY ARE, UH, THE, THE COMMENT THEY HAD WAS, IT WAS SO LONG AS I TOLD THEM HILL WAS, UH, OKAY WITH THIS, THAT THEY WOULD BE OKAY WITH IT AS WELL. UH, SO I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE MET WITH THE COUNCILMEN AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. LET ME CHECK AND SEE IF THE COMMISSIONERS, UM, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU OR FOR STAFF. AND, UM, IT, IT JUST FOR STAFF, IS THE SITE PLAN AVAILABLE TO, UH, PUT ON THE SCREEN COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? UM, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY? I ALL WE HAVE IS A SIDE PLAN. WE DON'T HAVE A PICTURE OF THE ACTUAL PROPERTY THAT THE STAFF WILL BREAK IT UP. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? OKAY, SO THEY, THESE, THE TWO BILLIONS IN THE BATH, SAY THEY'RE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, ARE THESE NOW GOING TO BECOME ACCESSORY DWELLINGS? SO THEY, OKAY. YES. SO JUST, JUST, UH, YEAH, LIKE, UH, PAINT A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE SITE PLAN. SO THE ACCESSORY GO, SO ONE OF 'EM IS A, AT, AT FOUR 30, YOU HAVE AN EXISTING STRUCTURE UP FRONT, WHICH IS A SINGLE, UH, FAMILY RESIDENT THAT HAS BEEN USED AS A DUPLEX FOR YEARS. IT HAS SEPARATE METERS. UH, IT'S OUR INTENTION TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY D DWELLING IN THE REAR, UH, THAT WOULD SERVE, UH, UH, FOR TENANTS AS WELL. AND THEN, UH, 4 34 IS THE REVERSE. THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, THERE'S NOTHING BUT IN THE REAR THERE'S AN ACCESSORY DWELL AND IT'S, UH, AND NOT IN LITTLE GOOD SHAPE, BUT WE'RE GONNA, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, IT'S STANDING AND WE'RE GONNA, UH, UH, SHORE THAT UP AND, AND THEN, UH, AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, WE WOULD DEAL BUILD A, UH, A NEW STRUCTURE AS WELL. UH, AGAIN, ALL THAT TOOK INTO HISTORICAL DESIGNATION AND HISTORICAL GUIDELINES. I HAVE THE ARCHITECT ON THE PHONE AS WELL TOO, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR THAT. OKAY. SO THE, THE ONE THAT SAYS ACCESSORY STRUCTURE EXISTS, THAT IT'S NOT, NO ONE'S LIVING IN IT. SO IT'S NOT A DWELLING PLACE RIGHT NOW, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S JUST, WHAT IS IT RIGHT NOW? THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A VACANT, UH, HOUSE RIGHT NOW EXCEPT VACANT ACCESSORY DWELLING. DOES IT HAVE PLUMBING IN IT? WE'VE GOT, WE IT DOES HAVE PLUMBING. BUT YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA STEP IN HERE REAL QUICK AND TELL ME EXACTLY. I HAVEN'T BEEN INSIDE THAT, UH, THE HOUSE, BUT YOU WANT TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT THE SHAPE THAT THE ACCESSOR DWELLING IS IN? SURE. THANKS WALTER. UH, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES. SO BRETT COEN THE OWNER. GO AHEAD. YES. HELLO. UH, THANKS FOR THE TIME. SO THE REAR STRUCTURE, 4 34, UM, IS ESSENTIALLY AN OLD GARAGE ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR ON THE TOP FLOOR IS A LIVING AREA. UM, SO IT IS CALMED, UM, IT'S OUR INTENTION TO OBVIOUSLY ABIDE BY THE HISTORIC DESIGN REQUIREMENT THAT FORTH, UH, BY THE DESIGN OFFICE AND, UH, INCREASE OR, OR BRING BACK BOTH OF THE, THE, THE BACK STRUCTURE AND THE FARM STRUCTURE. UM, SO THEY WOULD ALL BE, UM, YES, THEY, THEY WOULD BE ALREADY . OKAY. SO, UM, IS THERE PARKING UNDERNEATH THAT STRUCTURE WHEN YOU CAN, YOU SAID THERE WAS PARKING UNDER THAT EXISTING ACCESSORY TO WHAT STRUCTURE THERE IS. SO THERE, THERE ARE PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE? YEAH, THERE'S A, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I SEE THE ONES IN FRONT IS THERE, SO THERE'S NONE UNDERNEATH THE, THE LIVING ON TOP. THERE'S JUST, THERE, [03:10:01] THERE, THERE'S NOT A PROPER GARAGE UNDERNEATH, BUT THERE ARE, THERE'S A DECK, UH, AT THE, UH, ON TOP OF 4 34 UHHUH. UM, THE, THE EXISTING ACCESSORY STRUCTURE, THERE IS A DECK THAT COMES OUT PROBABLY 15, 20 FEET AND THERE ARE PARKING SPACES UNDERNEATH THAT. UH, AND I BELIEVE IN THE SITE PLAN, UH, THAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES AS WELL. AND WE HAVE FIVE PARKING SPACES FOR 4 34. AND THEN THE EXISTING PARKING SPACES, UH, THERE ARE THREE OF THEM FOR FOUR 30. DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT HISTORIC WOULD WANT YOU TO KEEP OR ENHANCE? SO, HISTORIC WANTS US TO KEEP BOTH OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES, THE FRONT STRUCTURE AT FOUR 30 AND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE AT 4 34. OH, OKAY. SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL HISTORIC ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN THAT YOU NEED TO ADD TO IT? JUST THAT, THAT YOU LIKE TO SURE. IF WE DID BUILD ANY, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. YES. IF WE DID BUILD ANY NEW STRUCTURE, ONE WE DO BUILD NEW STRUCTURE IS THAT BOTH OF THE PROPERTIES WE WOULD, UH, ABIDE BY THE HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT FOR IT. OKAY. AND YOU'RE OKAY WITH ALL THAT? I AM? YES. WHAT I'M CURIOUS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THIS, MAYBE THE OTHER APPLICANT, UH, THE ONE, THE ONE LETTER THAT WAS READ BY GARY WHO SAID HE SEEMED GOOD AND BAD THERE, AND HE, BUT HE IS OPPOSED TO WHY WOULD HE BE OPPOSED TO IT? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? UH, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE GENTLEMAN. I'VE, I'VE NEVER SPOKE WITH HIM. UM, I'VE, I, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE, AS MR. CERNER SAID, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOKEN HILL ASSOCIATION, AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I'VE MET THAT GENTLEMAN BEFORE, SO I, I DON'T WANNA GUESS WHAT HE'S THINKING. UM, I WILL SAY THAT SINCE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING TO THE PROPERTIES TO ENHANCE THEM. WE'RE SORT OF WAITING FOR THE, UH, ZONING AND THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION TO BE APPROVED SO WE CAN FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES SET FORTH. UM, SO I CAN'T ANSWER, I I I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHY HE WOULD DIE. NOT, I DON'T WANNA SEE IT FOR HIM. NO, THAT IS CORRECT. HE, HE IS NOT REACHED OUT TO US. OKAY. ANY OF US WASN'T VERY DESCRIPTIVE AS TO WHY HE WAS OPPOSED, JUST THAT HE'S SEEN THE GOOD AND THE BAD. SO IT, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A GOOD PROJECT AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT TO ZONING. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. THANK YOU. UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE THIS, UH, THIS REZONING. UM, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, HAS WORKED SO DILIGENTLY WITH THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND IS WILLING TO COME ON RECORD SAYING THAT THEY SUPPORT THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR THESE TWO PROPERTIES. UM, SO I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS A GOOD USE OF THIS PROPERTY. THERE ARE SEVERAL RM FOURS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION FOR THIS IN THE MIDTOWN AREA REGIONAL PLAN IS URBAN LOW DENSITY, WHICH, UH, RECOMMENDS UP TO, UH, UH, FOUR UNITS PER LOT. SO WE'RE KEEPING IN LINE WITH THAT. SO, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT WAY FOR US TO HAVE SOME INCREMENTAL DENSIFICATION IN THIS AREA AND ALSO TO REHAB SOME STRUCTURES THAT CLEARLY NEED IT, UM, AND PROVIDE SOME REVITALIZATION. SO, UM, FOR THAT REASON, I MOTION THAT WE APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 19. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. I HEARD TWO SECONDS. I'M NOT SURE WHO THE SECOND WAS. STEPH, DID YOU CATCH THAT? I HEARD TWO ALSO. UM, CLARIFICATION ON THE SECOND. YEAH, I WAS, I WAS A SECOND AND I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, MAYBE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, OKAY, COMMISSIONER WARREN, SINCE YOU SPOKE FIRST OKAY. ON THE SECOND TIME ROUND, WE'LL MAKE IT EASY. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE FOR ITEM NUMBER 19. ANY COMMENT FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. ENO COMMENTS? UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREYHOUND? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? [03:15:01] YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. 11 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE NOW READY FOR ITEM [18. 20-2759 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700067 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-1 AHOD" Light Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 24 and Lot 25, Block 4, NCB 18655, located at 7239 Still Brook Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] NUMBER 18. THANK YOU. THIS IS A RE A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H V TO C1, A H V LOCATED AT 72 39 SILVERBROOK DRIVE THERE. 38 NOTICES. MAIL NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION ASSOCIATION STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. WE HAVE NOT FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN. IT USED TO BE A GROCERY STORE IN 19, IN 1979, AND IT LOST ITS NONCONFORMITY AND THE APPLICANT SEEK TO REZONE IT IN ORDER TO OPERATE A RESTAURANT. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? VICTORIA, ARE YOU THERE? YES, MA'AM, I'M HERE. I'M HERE. OKAY, VERY GOOD. CAN YOU TELL THE COMMISSION A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT PLEASE? SO IT'S BEEN A NEIGHBORHOOD CONVENIENCE STORE FOR 30 PLUS YEARS, AND WHAT I DID GO OFFER TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEY SAID THAT THEY REALLY DIDN'T LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WOULD SELL, YOU KNOW, BEER AND PEOPLE WOULD HANG OUT AROUND THERE ON THEIR BIKES AND, YOU KNOW, SAID, I'M GOING TO DO A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, FRUIT, LIKE A FRUIT CUP, ICE CREAM, TYPE DEAL. THERE IS WHAT I'M HOPING TO DO IF EVERYTHING WILL GO RIGHT WITH, WITH THE PERMIT. THAT THAT'S MY, THAT'S WHAT MY NEXT, I HAVEN'T REALLY PULLED ANY PERMITS OR ANYTHING. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS GONNA BE ABLE TO BE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE REZONING. OKAY. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN. I CAN. OKAY. MS. VICTORIA, WHAT, WHAT WAS YOUR LAST NAME? GARZA. MS. GARZA. OKAY. MS. GARZA, IF YOU'LL JUST, UH, STAY ON THE LINE, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT IF THERE'S ANY, AND THEN THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO HOLD ON JUST A MOMENT, PLEASE. UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MA'AM. THERE WAS NO COMMENT ON THIS. UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES REQUESTED IT FOR INDIVIDUALS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. AND, UM, UH, THANKS MS. GARCIA. MS. SORRY, MS. GARZA FOR, UH, WILLING TO TAKE ON THIS PROJECT. UM, MY QUESTION IS ONE TO STAFF AND THEN A FOLLOW UP TO YOU. AND, UH, THE QUESTION TO STAFF WAS WHY WAS, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL NOT CONSIDERED FOR THIS, FOR THIS SITE VERSUS C ONE? BECAUSE WHEN I'M, WHEN I'M RESEARCHING THIS, IT APPEARS THAT THIS WOULD BE IDEAL FOR NC YEAH, NC OR C ONE. I MEAN EITHER, YOU KNOW, I, I ACTUALLY HAD A HEARING NOT A FEW DAYS BACK, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO ASK IS, IS THIS THE SAME TYPE OF HEARING? BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL IN, I THINK THAT THEY HAD JUST GOING, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE GONNA GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT APPROVAL FOR NC. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THIS THE SECOND, UM, INTERVIEW OR WHAT IS THIS, THIS, THIS CALL, UH, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'VE BEEN ON A CALL LIKE THIS. YES, MA'AM. UM, IT'S A THREE STEP PROCESS. SO YOU WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN NOW YOU'RE AT THE ZONING MISSION, AND THEN THERE WILL BE CITY COUNCIL. UM, BUT THE FIRST, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER IS REFERRING TO IS THE LAND USE. AND THE LAND USE RIGHT NOW IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. AND SO YOU DID GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND REC, UH, REQUEST NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH YOUR REQUEST NOW, WHICH IS FOR C ONE. AND SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND YOUR PRESENT REQUEST IS FOR, UH, LIGHT COMMERCIAL OR C ONE. OKAY. OKAY. UM, [03:20:01] IF EITHER, I MEAN, IT, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY AS LONG AS WHATEVER ZONING APPROVED RESTAURANT, BECAUSE SINCE I WILL HAVE LIKE SOME LIGHT COOKING IN THERE, UM, I NEED THAT. SO I THINK THEY DID SAY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WOULD BE OKAY FOR THAT. SO EITHER, EITHER WAY I'LL BE OKAY. I MEAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, ASK FOR MORE THAN WHAT I CAN GET. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. YES, THAT MAKES SENSE. NO, THAT'S UNDERSTOOD. UM, AND, UH, STAFF, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WOULD INDEED WORK? UM, I KNOW NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL HAS A LIMIT OF 3000 SQUARE FEET. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM BAB, THE BUILDING IS 2,700 SQUARE FEET, SO SHE'S FINE AS FAR AS SQUARE FOOTAGE. UM, AND, AND RIGHT NOW THE, THE DISTRICT OFFICE, WE ARE KIND OF LEANING TOWARD NC JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY THING EVEN APPROACHING COMMERCIAL WITHIN THIS ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, RIGHT. SO YOU, YOU WERE RIGHT ON TARGET. THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS. AND SO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL WOULD ONLY ALLOW 3000 SQUARE FEET. AND, UM, FROM WHAT WE HAD GATHERED, AND, AND MS. GARZA WILL HAVE TO CONFIRM IS THAT THE, THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY LARGER WITH THE AWNING, UM, THAT IT HAS OUT THERE. AND SO IT IS CLOSER TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET THAN IT IS TO 3000 SQUARE FEET. AND THAT'S WHY, UM, THE WHOLE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE ENTIRE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UH, THE, THE, THE AWNING, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE YOU MEAN LIKE THE SHADE THAT'S ON THE FRONT, ON THE, WHERE LIKE THE SIDEWALK IS, LIKE THERE'S A LITTLE WALKWAY AND THAT YES, MA'AM. THE, THE ENTIRE S STRETCHER? YES. OH, I SEE, I SEE. OKAY. WELL THEN YES, THEN THAT WOULD BE A REASON WHY I WOULD HOPE FOR C ONE BECAUSE I, I COULDN'T DO DO A RESTAURANT, WHICH I'M HOPING FOR, AND I HAVE TALKED TO ABOUT THE, THE NEIGHBORS AND THEY DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT. I KNOW THAT THEY DIDN'T WRITE ANYTHING IN FAVOR, BUT, UM, I, I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO MUCH WITH IT. BUT A CONVENIENCE STORE, I, I THINK, OR, OR I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I'LL BE ABLE TO DO WITH IT IF I, IF I CAN'T GET THE PROPER ZONING. SO THAT'S BEEN A, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN STRESSED SINCE OCTOBER I PURCHASE THIS BUILDING. SO, SO STAFF, YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE, YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE AWNING AS PART OF THIS, SO THAT OVERHANG YOU'RE ADDING TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE ENCLOSED SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHEN YOU'RE DETERMINING THE WHOLE SQUARE FOOT? YES. IT ENTIRE STRUCTURE NEEDS TO BE, UH, CONSIDERED EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT ENCLOSED, BECAUSE IF SHE DOES ANY KIND OF OUTDOOR DINING, UM, SO THE ENTIRE SQUARE FOOTAGE HAS TO BE CONSIDERED. OKAY. I DIDN'T CONSENT TO DO ANY OUTDOOR DINING, BUT, UM, BUT I DIDN'T THINK OF THAT. I, AND I DON KNOW WAY MORE THAN I DO. THIS IS MY FIRST, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE NO IDEA. I JUST KNEW THAT WHEN I, I DIDN'T WANT A CONVENIENCE STORE BECAUSE I DEFINITELY DIDN'T WANT BUNS HANGING AROUND, DRINKING OUTSIDE. AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD SAY THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, A LOT WOULD, THAT WOULD GO ON, THEY WOULD GO ON BIKES AND KIND OF JUST HANG OUT THERE. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO THERE. I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY, YOU KNOW, JUST, YOU KNOW, AND ICE CREAM AND STUFF LIKE THAT. MY FAMILY DOES A LOT OF THAT STUFF. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, UH, MISS COMMISSIONER SIPES? YEAH, WE'RE HAVING OFFLINE, UM, KIND OF, UH, DISTRICT OFFICE, AND I WERE LIKE, WHAT , UM, WHAT, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE DID C ONE, I MEAN, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CITY'S COMING FROM. THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE, THE, THE SIZE OF THE AWNING, WHICH IS LIKE 1100 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE ADDING THAT TO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S ENCLOSED TO GET IT OVER 3000. I UNDERSTAND THEIR ARGUMENTS KIND OF, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER YES, IF I CAN ALSO CHIME IN JUST A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. WITHOUT, WITHOUT AN ACTUAL SURVEY OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, WE, BCAS MEASUREMENT MAY NOT BE ACCURATE. UM, AND 300 [03:25:01] SQUARE FEET COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IF THEY ARE OFF, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ENCLOSED PART. UM, AND, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE TOOK, WE TOOK INTO, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA CREATE A NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURE, WHICH THEN LIMITS HER ABILITY TO RENOVATE IT, BECAUSE THEN SHE WOULD BE LIMITED TO A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS ONLY 50%. YES. SO, UH, WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T RELY ON JUST BCA WITHOUT A SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. NO, I UNDERSTAND. UM, AND, AND, AND OUR CONCERN, UM, WAS THAT WHAT IT COULD OPEN UP IN THE FUTURE, RECOGNIZING THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENCES BETWEEN C ONE AND IN NC. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, C ONE DOES ALLOW ALONE, IT DOES ALLOW DRIVE THROUGH THINGS WE WERE TRYING TO KEEP FROM INTRODUCING INTO THE, LITERALLY INTO THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, THAT WAS OUR, THAT WAS OUR BOUNDARY. UM, WOULD OKAY. QUESTION THE STAFF. DO WE NECESSARILY NEED TO ADD AN, OR COULD WE ADD AN IN A TO C ONE OR IS IT, OR WOULD THAT ONLY TO LIKE A C TWO IF NO, UM, NA FOR NON-ALCOHOLIC SCALES IS ONLY ALLOWED TO BE PLACED AS AN OVERLAY ON C TWO DISTRICTS AND C THREE DISTRICTS. THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. OKAY. UM, OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, I'M OKAY. I DON'T EVEN WANNA FILL OUT ALCOHOL. YES. I, AND, AND I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUT JUST MAKING NUMBERS WORK SO THAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH, WHICH IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, YEAH. AND, AND, AND THEN, AND THEN, UM, THOSE ON THE COMMITTEE SHOULD KNOW THAT, AND MY ARGUMENT IS, WELL, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CURRENT PERSON, IT'S ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN, IN 10 YEARS. SO, UM, THAT, THAT, THAT'S THE WHOLE REASON WHY THERE'S RECEIV THE DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. BUT I'M THINKING, LET'S SEE. SO WE CAN'T ADD AN N A. OKAY. UM, WELL, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I, QUESTIONS BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION. OH, OKAY. I JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY. THANK YOU, MR. . WELL, WHAT ABOUT, WHAT IF C ONE CD, IS THAT A POSSIBILITY OR NO? WHAT WOULD THE CONDITIONAL USE BE FOR? AND THAT'S ACTUALLY OUTSIDE THE RANGE. OH, IT'S OUTSIDE THE RANCH. OKAY. NO WORRIES. JUST, JUST ASKING, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER ROMERO, UM, JUST TO STAFF, I, I WAS CONFUSED. WERE YOU, WERE YOU SAYING THAT BECAUSE THE MEASUREMENT IS SO IMPORTANT HERE AND BCA MIGHT BE WRONG, THAT YOU'VE ALREADY DONE YOUR OWN SURVEY OR THAT IT STILL NEEDS TO BE DONE? SO ARE WE COMPLETELY CLEAR ON WHAT THE, WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS? NO, WE'RE NOT CLEAR ON WHAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A SURVEY. A SURVEY IS NOT REQUIRED FOR THIS PROCESS. UH, WE JUST KNOW THAT IN OUR EXPERIENCE WE HAVE MAY NOT BE EXACTLY ACCURATE. IT, IT MAY JUST BE A, A ROUNDED NUMBER, AN APPROXIMATION. AND, AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 20 703,000 PER FEET IS, IS SO IT'S TOO TIGHT FOR US TO JUST RELY ON THE ACCOUNT MEASUREMENTS. SO, AND I REALIZE THERE'S AN EXPENSE, BUT IF THE APPLICANT WANTED TO, SHE COULD GET HER OWN SURVEY AND, AND THEN BRING THAT BACK AND THAT COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE THE DIFFERENCE. CORRECT. UH, UH, AT LEAST THAT WOULD GIVE A CERTIFICATION AS TO HOW BIG THE BUILDING IS. BUT THAT DOESN'T SENSE. WELL, I'VE HAD AN ARCHITECT TAKE MEASUREMENT, UM, TO DO, I MEAN, AND I CAN, I MEAN, I CAN LITERALLY TEXT HIM AND GET THE MEASUREMENTS OF THE EXPOSED PART OF THE BUILDING. UM, I CAN'T, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF HE MEASURED THE AWNING AND WHAT'S COVERED WITH SHADE IT, BUT I MEAN, AND IF I HAVE TO HIRE A SURVEY, I, I CAN BRING THEM OUT TOMORROW. COMMISSIONER ROMERO, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO, WERE YOU DONE? NO, I'M DONE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, I GUESS TO STAFF, UM, [03:30:02] BEACON IS SHOWING THIS AS AN R SIX. SO IT NEVER WAS, UH, REZONED TO ANYTHING COMMERCIAL, BUT THERE SITS A CONVENIENCE STORE. DID I MISS ANYTHING OR IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY BACK IN 1989, IT WAS ZONED RESIDENCE. AND IT NEVER WAS REZONED TO COMMERCIAL, EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE FOR, SO IT JUST WAS NON, IT JUST BECAME ILLEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE UPON ADAPTATION. OKAY. UH, SO THIS CAME IN AFTER THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHEN THE HOUSES WERE BUILT AND WHEN THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD GROCERY STORE WAS BUILT. IT, IT COULD HAVE JUST ALL KIND OF HAPPENED ALL AROUND THE SAME TIME. BUT WHEN IT WAS ANNEXED INTO THE CITY, THE GROCERY STORE WAS ALREADY THERE AND THAT USE BECAME ILLEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE BECAUSE IT WAS ZONED RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. SO THEN TO THE APPLICANT, UH, IS SHE STILL THERE? YES, I'M HERE. OKAY. DID, WERE YOU AWARE THAT IT WAS NON-CONFORMING WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT? NO. WERE YOU AWARE OF THE ZONING THAT WAS RESIDENTIAL WHAT? WHEN I PURCHASED IT, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS COMMERCIAL. AND WHAT GAVE YOU THAT IMPRESSION? OTHER THAN THERE'S A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THERE, BUT DID THERE REALTOR GIVE THAT IMPRESSION? WELL, YES, BECAUSE THERE WAS, I MEAN, IT DIDN'T LOOK AT THE HOUSE AT ALL. IT LOOKED LIKE JUST A FEATURE OF IT. YEAH, IT WAS A STORE. AND SO I JUST, I MEAN, IT WAS A CONVENIENCE STORE AND IT WAS OPEN WHEN I BOUGHT IT. AND I, I, I'M NOT, THIS IS MY FIRST COMMERCIAL PROPERTY THAT I PURCHASED, SO I, I WASN'T AWARE. AND SO I WAS TRYING TO GO AND PULL, I MEAN, TALK TO THE CITY ABOUT WHAT I WAS WANTING TO DO. YEAH. AND THEN THEY TOLD ME THAT HAVE TO GO THREE STEPS FIRST. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND THEN DID YOU HAVE A SURVEY DONE WHEN YOU PURCHASED IT? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HAVE A SURVEY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION FOR STAFF THEN, BECAUSE WE'RE, I MEAN, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT MAYBE THREE TO 400 FEET FOR THAT AWNING. I I, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR NOT, THAT LOOKS PRETTY BIG, BUT WHAT IF, UM, WE WERE TO PROCEED WITH THE NC AND WE FOUND OUT IT'S 3010 FEET OR 3020 FEET. COULD SHE NOT GO FORWARD FOR A WAIVER INSTEAD OF JUST CONSIDERING IT THAT IT'S NON-CONFORMING? LIKE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF CASES. I MEAN, THERE'S A COUPLE OF OPTIONS THAT SHE CAN DO. SHE CAN, UH, AND AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ACTUAL WHAT, WHATEVER THAT 2,700 SQUARE FEET THAT, UH, THAT VCA SHOWS IT AS. UM, WE'RE JUST NOT SURE IF THAT'S JUST THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING OR IF THEY ARE EXACT. WE DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MEASUREMENT IS AN EXACT SCIENCE MM-HMM. . BUT LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT VCA IS CORRECT AT 2,700 SQUARE FEET AND SHE DOESN'T DO ANYTHING TO, UH, THE AWNING. SHE COULD DEMOLISH THE AWNING AND THE BUILDING IS STILL UNDER 3000 SQUARE FEET. BUT LET'S ASSUME THAT THE BUILDING IS NOT OVER 3000 SQUARE FEET. IT JUST WOULD BECOME A LEGAL NON-CONFORMING USE. AND AGAIN, IT'S A NONCONFORMING STRUCTURE, I SHOULD SAY. IT JUST PUTS LIMITATIONS ON WHAT CAN BE DONE TO THE BUILDING. IT CAN'T EXPAND IT. UM, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO RENOVATE IT IF IT, IF THE VALUE OF THE RENOVATION WAS MORE THAN 50%. THERE'S JUST LIMITATIONS RELATED TO NONCONFORMING. OKAY. UM, THEN I MIGHT LIKE TO OFFER A FRIENDLY SUGGESTION TO MY COLLEAGUE. THIS MIGHT MERIT, UH, CONTINUATION TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DO THE NECESSARY WORK FOR HER, AND THAT WAY WE CAN ASSIGN THE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER SIPES. WELL, THANKS FOR ALL THE QUESTIONS. AND, UM, I GUESS THE FINAL QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS STAFF THE AWNING, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AREAS OF A BUILDING, THE AWNING COUNTS [03:35:01] TOWARD THE AREA ALL THE TIME. CORRECT. IF, IF THE AWNING IS ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING, IT REQUIRES IT TO MEET THE, A BUILDING FRONT SETBACK SIDE SETBACK BY STEPBACK REAR SETBACK. IF AN AWNING IS NOT ATTACHED TO A BUILDING, THEN IT'S JUST CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE. THINK OF IT AS A CARPORT, A CARPORT ATTACHED NEEDS TO MEET, UH, THE APPROPRIATE FRONT SETBACK FOR THAT RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE AWNING, THIS AWNING IS ATTACHED, SO IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE OF SETBACKS AND SQUARE FOOTAGE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANKS. UM, AND I THINK, UH, I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL HAS ACTUALLY A REALLY GOOD IDEA. AND, AND THAT IS, UM, AND I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE? AND THEN WE HAVE A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO DO WITHIN THE, THE, THE ZONING THAT WE ASSIGN TO IT WITH A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE? BASICALLY WE JUST COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN, BUT TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT FEELING THAT WILL WORK. OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE WITH ME. AND, AND THAT TIMEFRAME, DO YOU ARE RECOMMENDING A SURVEY OR, OR, OR IF, IF, IF, IF YOU'VE GOT A ARCHITECTURE DESIGNER ON BOARD, THAT THAT, UM, I GUESS STAFF WOULD HAVE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT THEY CONSIDER, UH, APPROPRIATE FOR, UM, A FIELD MEASUREMENTS IF IT HAS TO ACTUALLY BE A, AN OFFICIAL ENGINEERED SURVEY OR WHETHER IT CAN BE SOMETHING THAT AN ARCHITECT DRAWS UP AS WELL. I, I, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WOULD REQUIRE. UM, IN THAT CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR TWO WEEKS FOR ITEM NUMBER 18. SECOND, UH, WITH THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. SORRY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE, UH, FOR ITEM NUMBER 18 BY COMMISSIONER SIS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UH, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER SYS TRYING TO MITIGATE A PROBLEM HERE. EITHER WAY, IN LOOKING AT IT, A CONVENIENCE STORE SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, OUT OF CONFORMANCE HAS ALWAYS BEEN OUT OF CONFORMANCE. I'M HAVING AN ISSUE, AND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP RESOLVE THIS COMMISSIONER FOR THE NEXT GO ROUND, BUT I, I'M HAVING IT, I WOULD HAVE QUITE A PROBLEM APPROVING IT EITHER WAY. OTHER ZONING YOU GO WITH, IT'S, IT'S OUT OF CONFORMANCE. THESE ARE OUR SIX LOTS. SOMEONE TOOK TWO HOUSE LOTS, BUILT A CONVENIENCE STORE WITHOUT APPROVAL. IT LOOKS OUT OF CONFORMANCE. IT IS OUT OF CONFORMANCE. I'M GONNA HAVE A HARD TIME SAYING IT IS CONFORMANCE. SO, BUT THE NEXT GO AROUND, UNLESS Y'ALL COME UP WITH A GOOD, GOOD CASE. AND I, YOU KNOW, I SAY THAT TO KIND OF HELP YOU AND HELP YOUR CLIENT. I SEE YOU'RE TRYING TO HELP HER, BUT JUST WHERE IT IS LOCATED AND THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. SOMEBODY DID SOMETHING WRONG AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIX IT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, IF I COULD FIX THAT IN LOOKING AT IT ON MY END AS FOR WHAT'S WRITTEN GOING FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER HUEY. YEAH. UM, SO THAT STRUCTURE HAS BEEN THERE FOR THE LAST 30 SOME ODD YEARS. AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT WASN'T AS IF IT WAS OUT OF CONFORMANCE, IT'S BEEN OUT OF CONFORMANCE FOR THE LAST 30 SOME ODD YEARS. AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN THERE EVER SINCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BUILT. SO I'M, I'M GLAD THAT COMMISSIONER SIPES IS TRYING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO, TO GET SOMEWHERE WHERE IF SHE'S NOT GETTING, UM, PUT IN A, UH, DISADVANTAGED POSITION. SO I WOULD, I I WOULD ENCOURAGE HER TO GO AND GET A SURVEY. I, I, I, I JUST, I'M SORRY. AND, UH, THIS, OKAY, SO I ACTUALLY WENT AND I SAT WITH, UH, CITY COUNCIL. I'M SORRY, UH, UH, WERE YOU ASKING, UH, THE APPLICANT A QUESTION OR YOU'RE JUST MAKING A COMMENT? COMMISSIONER WHO, BECAUSE, UH, CO THE CO COMMENT SECTION IS OVER, UH, MS. GARZA, UNLESS HE'S ASKING, I WAS NOT ASKING A QUESTION I WAS MAKING. OKAY. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU MS. GARZA. UM, I'M GONNA LET HIM FINISH MAKING HIS COMMENT. MM-HMM. ? NO, I'M FINISHED. OKAY. THANK, I THINK WE'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING TO, TO CONTINUE IT, TO, TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO DO WHAT SHE NEEDS TO DO. OKAY. [03:40:01] THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND NOW COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. YEAH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ECHO COMMISSIONER HUEY'S, UH, COMMENTS. UM, I THINK WE DEAL WITH THIS IN DISTRICT ONE A LOT BECAUSE, UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, SOME SITES, EVEN FOR EXAMPLE, IN IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT ARE STRUCTURES THAT HAVE OBVIOUSLY NEVER BEEN RESIDENTIAL AND THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WITH CODE CONVERSIONS AND WITH JUST, YOU KNOW, IMPROPER RECORD KEEPING OR OTHER THINGS WHERE WE'VE HAD, UM, IN FACT, THERE WAS ONE HERE ON MISSILE TOE THAT I KNOW SEVERAL OF YOU WERE ON THE COMMISSION, UM, FOR THAT CASE HERE IN MONTE VISTA. UM, AND, UH, I ACTUALLY REPRESENTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE IN THAT CASE. UM, AND, AND IT WAS A, A STRUCTURE THAT CLEARLY WOULD NEVER BEEN A RESIDENCE, UM, HAD BEEN USED AS A POST OFFICE AND I THINK AS A GROCERY STORE, AND WAS BEING USED AS AN OFFICE. UM, AND SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE OWNER TO, UH, CHANGE THAT ZONING TO AN OFFICE ZONING, WHICH WAS THE, THE CURRENT USE. SO, UM, I CAN APPRECIATE THE STEPS THAT COMMISSIONER SIPES IS GOING THROUGH IN ORDER TO WORK WITH, UM, A, A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN INHERITED AND THAT MAYBE ISN'T NECESSARILY THE FAULT OF ANYONE, AND IT COULD BE, UM, AS A RESULT OF A, OF A CODE CONVERSION OR, UM, IMPROPER RECORD KEEPING. SO I APPRECIATE THOSE EFFORTS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. WILL YOU HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE FOR ITEM NUMBER 18 FOR THE JUNE 2ND MEETING, UH, BY COMMISSIONER SIPES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREY HOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAM? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GI? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER ? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 2ND BY VOTE OF 11 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. OUR FINAL ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 21. [21. 20-2765 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700070 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot P-201B and Lot P-203, NCB 10917, generally located in the 9600 Block of Southton Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] TO READ THEM FROM R SIX A H O D TO C TWO A H O D GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 9,600 BLOCK OF SOUTHTON ROAD. THERE WERE NINE NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ACTUALLY LEFT A MESSAGE AND THAT IS WHY THE ITEM IS ON INDIVIDUAL TODAY. UH, THE REQUEST IS CURRENTLY R SIX, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE THAN FOR THE PROPERTY. HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED FEE TWO IS MORE APPROPRIATE ALONG A MAJOR HIGHWAY LIKE LOOP FOUR 10 SOUTHEAST AND IS CONSISTENT WITH THE C3 AND C2 TO THE EAST AND SOUTHEAST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. HEY, UH, WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. YEAH, THIS IS ROB, GARY. MR. GARY, YOU SAID CARRIE? YES MA'AM. CARRIE. OKAY. OKAY. YOU CAN PRESENT YOUR CASE, SIR. OKAY. UH, I'VE HAD THAT LAND FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS OR SO, AND UH, I WAS PART OF THE SERGEANT MIXED MARTIAL BLOOD SCHOOL THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FOUNDED RIGHT THERE AT SOUTH ROAD AT WESTSIDE. ONE OF HIS BUILDINGS MOVED AROUND A FEW TIMES AND IT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED AT, UH, 1319 MARCH STREET ON THE SOUTH SIDE. UM, THE PLAN IS TO, UH, GO COMMERCIAL TWO AND PUT A BUILDING THERE MAYBE ON HUNDRED BY 200 FEET AND THEN, UH, HAVE SOME OFFICE SPACE, LOCKER ROOMS AND CLASSROOM SPACE AND THEN PUT A BIG MARTIAL ARTS STUDIO. AND THE OTHER PLAN IS TO BUILD A, LIKE A MOCK TRAINING HOUSE INSIDE OF IT TO TRAIN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRST RESPONDERS AND, UH, COURSE QUARTER TACTICS AND UM, KIND OF LIKE TACTICAL FIRST AID STUFF. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, WANTING TO DO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. UM, IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY ON THE LINE, WE'LL, UH, LISTEN TO ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AND IF YOU'D LIKE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND THEN [03:45:01] THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES, MA'AM. SURE THING. OKAY. UM, STAFF PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. IT'S QUEUED UP AND WE'RE GONNA PLAY IT. UM, IF TYPICAL TO UNDERSTAND, IT'S BASICALLY THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION REQUESTING MORE TIME TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CHANCE TO HEAR HIS PROPOSAL DUE TO THE C OVID 19. BUT HERE IS, UH, OKAY CASE REGARDING, UH, THE CHANGE FROM THE, UH, R SIX . THE ADDRESS IS NINE SIX BLOCK SOUTH AND WHICH WE DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ADDRESS. IT MIGHT NOT DUE THE CORONAVIRUS ABLE TO SPEAK, THE PEOPLE LIVE IN THAT AREA, SO I NOW CHANGE, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING THAT PROPERTY. SO, UH, I'M AGAINST IT. THE MEDICAL ASSOCIATION IS AGAINST IT. I THINK THAT, UH, FORWARD AGAINST IT, WHICH IS FOR INFORMATION AND I'M ASKING FOR, SO DEVELOPMENT, FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT PROPER. AND MY NUMBER IS 2 3 9 3 6 9 4 4. I CAN BE CALLED IN ANY TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BY NOW. DELAY AT LEAST MONTH SO THAT WE CAN SPEAK TO PEOPLE. AGAIN, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, MR. CAREY, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, TIME TO RESPOND? YEAH, SURE. I SPOKE TO MS. MARTINEZ, UH, BY EMAIL AND THEN IN PERSON ON THE PHONE BACK IN JANUARY WHEN WE TRIED TO GET THIS STUFF ON THE GROUND AND SHE DIDN'T AT THE TIME HAVE ANY OPPOSITION TO IT, BUT SHE WAS GONNA PUT OUT SOME FIELDS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEMBERS TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY OPPOSITION. BUT AT THE TIME SHE SAID SHE HIGHLY APPLAUDED THE EFFORTS AND THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA DO. UM, SO SHE MAY NOT REMEMBER EXACTLY THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION. UM, AFTER THAT I DID SPEAK TO THE NEIGHBORS WITH THE LAND WRITTEN AROUND AND ADJACENT TO, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES, BUT IF SHE NEEDS SOME TIME TO, UM, SPEAK TO THEM MORE THOROUGHLY AND REVISIT THE IDEA WITH ME, I'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT. UM, IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A WHILE. I GUESS IT'S ALL THE PLAN TO, IT'LL HAPPEN WHEN IT HAPPENS. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. IT'S BEEN IN THE WORK SINCE AROUND, UH, JANUARY TIME, BUT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH MAYBE SHE NEEDS MORE TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT. UM, SO THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, AND SO I DON'T, WOULD YOU BE ABLE, WOULD TWO WEEKS BE ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO, UM, SPEAK WITH HER AND MAYBE, UM, GET THE OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN THAT AREA TO CONFIRM WITH HER THAT, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT, UM, THEY ARE OKAY WITH THAT? OR DO WELL, IS SHE STILL ON THE LINE AND, AND YOUR'S, THIS CONVERSATION? DO MIGHT REMEMBER TALKING TO ME ABOUT IT AND IF THAT'S SUFFICIENT FOR HER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR ME. UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME SHE NEEDS. I'M PERSONALLY, UH, GOING THROUGH A BUNCH OF MEDICAL ISSUES. I GOT, I RETURNED FROM AFGHANISTAN LAST SUMMER WITH SOME, SOME COMBAT INJURIES FROM AN APPOINTMENT, SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY. RIGHT NOW. I GOT A LOT OF TIME 'CAUSE OF THE COVID STUFF IS LIKE, CANCEL ALL MY APPOINTMENTS MM-HMM. , UH, BUT I JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, THE APPOINTMENTS OR ISSUES WHEN YOU GUYS HAVE THE MEETINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO MAKE THIS OFFICE A LITTLE EASIER. OKAY. SO PROBABLY, SO WE, WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF CHOICES. WE'VE GOT THE TWO WEEK AND WE'VE GOT THE FOUR WEEKS ON STAFF. WHAT WOULD BE THOSE TWO DATES? THAT WOULD BE EITHER JUNE THE SECOND OR JUNE THE 16TH. AND I DO BELIEVE, UM, THAT MS. MARTINEZ ASKED FOR AT LEAST ONE MONTH. MM-HMM. SO, UM, MR. CAREY WOULD, UH, JUNE 16TH WORK FOR YOU? IT WOULD PROBABLY WORK. OKAY. WELL THEN, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'LL, UM, ASK FOR, BUT LET ME JUST CHECK TO SEE. UM, I'M CONSIDERING A, A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE FOR, UH, JUNE 16TH, BUT I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS. OKAY. THERE'S NO QUESTION. OH, YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, PLEASE. I CAN APPRECIATE, UH, I'LL GO ON TO GET THIS ACROSS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT IT'S, IT'S SO RURAL. I DON'T, UH, THE IMPACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WOULD, IT SEEMS SO MINOR. UM, I HATE TO MOVE THESE THINGS OFF TO CONTINUANCE. UM, WE HAVE LOTS TO GET THROUGH. UM, [03:50:02] UH, AND IT DOES SOUND LIKE THE APPLICANT ALREADY TALKED TO, UH, MS. MARTINEZ. UM, UH, WAS SHEILA UNABLE TO COME HERE TODAY TO, TO GIVE VOICE HER OPINION? I MEAN, THE APPLICANT WAS HERE, THE APPLICANT TALKED TO HER OR TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE RURAL, NOT TOO IMPACTFUL ON NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, I'M OKAY WITH VOTING ON IT TODAY. UH, IT WOULD BE MY OPTION, SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, I, I, I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THE, WITH THE MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE, BUT I WILL SAY THAT I THOUGHT WE WERE SORT OF GUIDED AS PERMISSION TO USE THESE CONTINUANCES JUDICIOUSLY. AND WE HAVE A, UM, A BUNCH OF OTHER HEARINGS SET FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF, UH, MEETINGS. SO, UM, I'M SORT OF LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS AND I'D BE OKAY VOTING TODAY, BUT, BUT I CERTAINLY RESPECT, UH, YOUR MOTION OF COURSE AND SUPPORT IT IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT TO GO. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR, UH, QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL, UM, UH, KNOWING THE NEIGHBORHOOD , I THINK IT'S PROBABLY WISER, UM, IN THIS CASE TO, UH, MOVE FOR THE, THE, UM, UH, CONTINUANCE. AND SO I MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO, AND, AND ALSO CONSIDERING THAT, UM, MR. CAREY IS ALSO WILLING TO, UM, GARNER, UH, THAT SUPPORT EVEN IF IT'S IN REMINDER, UH, MODE, UM, TO JUNE 16TH SECOND. OKAY. UM, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR CONTINUANCE TILL, UH, JUNE 16TH FOR ITEM NUMBER 21 WITH A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, ANY COMMENTS? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER LEE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIDE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, FOR THE RECORD, THIS REFLECTS RIGHT NOW ITEM NUMBER 18, BUT THIS IS ITEM 21. MY VOTE IS AYE. AND COMMISSIONER MCGEE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. AND IF BEFORE YOU CALL THE VOTE, I JUST WANT TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE, UH, APPLICANT BEFORE HE LEAVES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OH, BEFORE YOU DO THAT, COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU, UM, UM, MOVE YOUR MIC A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, YOUR SOUNDING A LITTLE. OH, THANK YOU. YES, IT HAD FALLEN. THANK YOU SO MUCH, . OKAY, MR. CARRIE, THANK YOU SO VERY, VERY MUCH. UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, WORKING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. WE, UH, APPRECIATE YOU AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU'LL HAVE WITH THEM AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU BACK. UM, AND THEN I DIDN'T WANNA LOSE THEM BEFORE YOU CALLED THE VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM. THANK YOU MA'AM. MM-HMM. . OKAY. STAFF. OKAY. I THINK THAT WAS THE, THAT THE LAST ONE? THAT WAS THE LAST CASE. OH, BUT YOU DIDN'T CALL THE VOTE YET? MM-HMM. . OH, I'M SORRY. YES. UH, MOST INTERRUPTED WERE CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH, 11 TO ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. OKAY. THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE LAST CASE. AND SO WE'LL NOW MOVE ON TO [25. 20-3189 Consideration and Approval of the May 5, 2020 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes] THE MINUTES FOR, OH MY GOODNESS. WHAT WAS THAT? MAY 5TH. OKAY. THANK YOU. MAY THE FIFTH. UH, WERE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR, UM, AMENDMENTS TO THE MINUTES? OKAY. HEARING NINE. LET ME GET TO THAT PAGE IN MY, OH LORD, WHERE IS THAT PAGE . IF WE JUST NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THEN I CAN DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, UM, IS THERE, UM, A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM MAY 5TH? [03:55:04] SO MOVED. ROMERO . THANK. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO IS THERE. I SECOND. I LOST MY CURSOR. , THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND THE SECOND MOTION MADE TO APPROVE THE MAY 5TH MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BUS DEANTE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRUB? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SY? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL. 11 TO ZERO. OKAY, THANK YOU. IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO THERE ISN'T. ALL MINES CLEAR IF ALL MINES ARE CLEAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PLEASURE OF SERVING WITH YOU TODAY. I CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:04 PM. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.