* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] OKAY, I GOT THUMBS UP. YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. OKAY. GOOD [12:30 p.m. - Work Session] AFTERNOON EVERYONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ATTENDING OUR WORK SESSION. UM, THE FLOOR IS OPEN. AS WE REVIEW THE AGENDA, WE SEE THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS THERE. IF THERE'S ANY, UM, ITEMS AT ALL ON THE ENTIRE AGENDA THAT YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON, OR IF YOU'D LIKE TO PULL ANY CASES, UM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, UH, DO SO NOW. STAFF COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL HERE, UM, SUBBING FOR COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TODAY. SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THESE ITEMS ARE ON CONSENT, OR I SHOULD SAY COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COUNT FOR ITEM 23. ALRIGHT, COUNT FOR ITEM 23. OKAY. THE COUNTS FOR ITEM 23 ARE 17 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND TOKEN HILL IS IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU CHRISTIE. MY TWO ITEMS HAVE ALREADY BEEN PULLED, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO COUNT ON THEM. ITEM 16 AND 21. ITEM 1620. NOTICES MAILED SEVEN RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THEN NUMBER 21, 32 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PALM. THANK YOU. SORRY. THANK YOU. SORRY, GO AHEAD CHRISTINE. COULD I ALSO HAVE COUNTS PLEASE FOR ITEMS NUMBER 20 AND 12? NUMBER 20, THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND TYPE UNTIL IS IN SUPPORT. AND ITEM NUMBER 12, THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF 200 FEET, 24 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET, NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. HOWEVER, OAK PARK NORTHWOOD OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA IS IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. OKAY, LET'S SEE. CAN I GET, CAN I GET MY TWO NUMBER 19 AND 25? THIS IS MARK. YES, SIR. MR. WHITE. UM, NUMBER 19 IS 36 NOTICES MAIL THREE IN FAVOR FOR AN OPPOSITION. NO RESPONSE FROM BRIAR WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND ITEM 25, 16 NOTICES. NONE IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION, NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, SO ARE WE DISMISSING, UH, DR. JONES? I BELIEVE SO. THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I DON'T BE ACCOUNTED FOR. MM-HMM. . SO ARE THERE ANY, UM, ITEMS THAT YOU NEED TO DISCUSS WITH US? UM, ONE OF HER ITEMS NUMBER, UH, 15 AND 18 AND 22. MM-HMM. ON, UH, CONSENT. UM, ITEM SIX IS ON [00:05:01] INDIVIDUAL AND I, SHE ON MM-HMM. . UM, SO, UH, HOPEFULLY SHE JOINS IN SHORTLY AND IT JUST, UH, CONNECTION ISSUES FOR NOW. BUT JEN HAS EMAILED THE, OR, UH, TEXTED US TO SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN ANY PROBLEMS. OKAY. AND, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, CASES WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, WE DO. IT IS GOING TO BE THE, UH, DISTRICT FIVE CASE FOR THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE ON PECOS LAST US AND EL PASO. MM-HMM. , WHICH WAS DATE NUMBER 16, I THINK. MM-HMM. , HOLD ON. YES, 16. OKAY. ABOUT HOW MANY, UH, DO WE HAVE, UH, SIGNED UP IN COMBINATION FROM WRITTEN, UH, PHONE AND, UM, VOICE MESSAGE? I WOULD SAY SIX TO 10. OKAY. OKAY. UM, IF NONE OF THE, IF ANY, THE COMMISSIONERS DON'T HAVE ANY, FORGIVE MY GRAMMAR. I THINK, UH, I DIDN'T WANNA DRINK ANY MORE COFFEE TODAY, BUT I MIGHT NEED IT. , THEY DIDN'T WANNA COME OUT. SO IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS, WE CAN DO BREAK UNTIL, UM, 1257. YOU CAN, UH, MUTE YOUR CAMERAS AND YOUR, UH, MICROPHONES. OKAY. AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE GONNA TEST ON OUR VOICEMAILS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE PLAYING CORRECTLY AND THEN, BUT WE'LL TAKE IT OFF OF LIVESTREAM. I'LL TELL OUR AB THAT, GO AHEAD AND, UM, TAKE IT OFF LIVESTREAM AND WE'LL BE ON BREAK. OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH EVERYONE. SURE. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE AND I AM THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY MEET NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. MAY WE PLEASE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING? THANK YOU. [Roll Call:] MAY WE PLEASE HAVE THE ROLL CALL. ALRIGHT, DR. JONES. COMMISSIONER JONES, PRESENT. COMMISSIONER DAVIS. HERE. COMMISSIONER WING PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ROMERO PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, PRESENT, COMMISSIONER WHITE PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL PRESENT. COMMISSIONER SY PRESENT, COMMISSIONER PRESENT AND CHAIRMAN D PRESENT A COURT PRESENT. THANK YOU. PRIOR TO STARTING WITH OUR ITEMS, STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT? ALRIGHT. TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING THE MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETING ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/CSC ARE BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3 TO INCOR TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES. THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING. STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT'S STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED. THE STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL. LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE'LL CALL 'EM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENT. SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT, ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK [00:10:01] YOU. UH, LET, MAY WE PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT, INDIVIDUAL OR ANY POSTPONE OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR. THIS IS MANAGER. I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DID MOVE 21 BACK TO THE COMBINED HEARING. THAT WAS NOT THE ITEM THAT HAD COMMENT. IT WAS ITEM NUMBER 22 THAT HAD COMMENTS. SO WE'LL NEED TO BE SURE THAT 22 IS ON INDIVIDUAL, THAT 21 IS OKAY FOR CONSENT. ALSO, WE DO HAVE COMMENTS FOR NUMBER NINE AND FOR NUMBER 19, WHICH WILL BE, NEED TO BE MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL AS WELL FOR THOSE COMMENTS. OKAY. ANYTHING ELSE, CHAIR? UH, NO, I'M JUST MAKING SURE I HAD THAT, UM, NOTATED. OKAY. LET'S, UM, GO AHEAD AND, AND MOVE ON TO THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. AGAIN, THIS IS CHRISTIE FLORES, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. [Items 5, 8, 10, 14, 15, 17, 18, 21, 23 & 24] WE DO NOT HAVE ANY POSTPONED, WITHDRAWN, OR PULLED ITEMS TODAY. SO THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS BEGIN WITH ITEM 5, 7, 8, 10, 14, 15, 17, 18, 21, 23, 24, AND 25. IF, UH, THERE ARE NONE OF THOSE THAT NEED TO BE PULLED, I CAN PROCEED WITH READING 'EM TO THE RECORD. LET ME KNOW, PLEASE. YES, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE AS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D, THE C ONE A H O D LOCATED AT 72 39. STILL BROOK DRIVE. THERE WERE 38 NOTICES. MAILS NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, TO REZONE FROM OH TWO H A H O D IS T1, H A H O D, LOCATED AT 51 18 SAN PEDRO AND 52 30 SAN PEDRO AVENUE. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES. MAIL NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR TO RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION. NORTHMORE AND OLMO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE OPPOSED. AND ONE, THERE WAS ONE NOTICE OF OPPOSITION BY 200 FEET. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, TO REZONE FROM I ONE A H O D, THE C ONE A H O D, LOCATED AT 10 28 KBRA ROAD AND 10 30 KBRA ROAD. THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION WEST IN HOPE IN ACTION IS IN COURT. ITEM NUMBER 10, TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO M MS 25, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 4,600 BLOCK OF HAMILTON WOLF ROAD. THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MS. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE WERE CURRENTLY ON THE WRONG ITEM BEING PRESENTED. UH, YOU WERE ON 10 AND WE WERE ON NINE. UM, SO IF WE COULD GO THROUGH 10 AGAIN, IF I NOT SUGGEST THAT. YES, SIR. ITEM NUMBER 10 TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO MF 25. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 4,600 BLOCK OF HAMILTON WOLF ROAD. THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 14 TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND A N C D FIVE A H O D, THE C TWO N C D FIVE A H O D LOCATED AT 17 0 1, 17 0 5, AND 1709 LANCO ROAD. THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 15 TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 10 37 DAWSON STREET, THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM [00:15:01] DITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 17 TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D TO R M SIX A H O D LOCATED AT 2 28 LOTUS AVENUE. THERE WERE 36 NOTICES. MAIL NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. LACA NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 18, THREE ZONE FROM R FOUR T THREE AND I ONE TO R FOUR AND RRN FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 9,400 BLOCK OF GREEN ROAD, THERE WERE FOUR NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 21. THREE ZONE FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. THERE WERE 32 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PALM HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 23 TO REZONE FROM I D D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS AND C TWO TO I D D WITH USES PERMITTED, PERMITTED FOR EIGHT DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 96 LEWIS STREET AND 100 LEWIS STREET. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. 17 NOTICES MAILS ONE RECEIVE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 24 TO REONE FROM R SIX TO C THREE LOCATED AT 31 47 NORTH LOOP 1604 AND 29 95 NORTH LOOP 1604. THERE WERE FIVE NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND ITEM NUMBER 25, TOONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO C TWO CD, A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES. FULL SERVICE GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,800 BLOCK OF RANDOLPH ROAD. THERE WERE 16 NOTICES. MALES NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. THE FLOOR IS . UM, YES, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. UH, OKAY. SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON INDIVIDUALS, UM, ARE ON INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS, UM, TO BE EITHER READ INTO THE RECORD OR VOICEMAILS TO PLAY, UM, UNLESS THEY HAVE A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL OR, UH, THAT THE SAWS CASE, THEY'RE STILL ELIGIBLE TO BE ON CONSENT. IT IS UP TO THE COMMISSION IF THEY WANT THESE ITEMS, UH, TO REMAIN ON CONSENT BECAUSE WE CAN STILL PLAY AND READ INTO THE RECORD, UH, ANY OPPOSITION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING BEFORE THE MOTION FOR, UH, THE CONSENT IS DONE. SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP. IF ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE ON INDIVIDUAL AND WERE NOT READ AS PART OF THE GROUP. SO ARE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT RIGHT NOW ON THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS, WE HAVE SOME THAT HAVE COMMENTS, BUT THEY ARE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY IN OPPOSITION? NO. WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT WE'VE GOT COMMENTS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION OR VOICEMAILS IN OPPOSITION, BUT THEY'RE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT. GOT IT. IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL? AND SO, I'M SORRY, THIS IS, THIS IS COMMISSIONER WHITE. DO WE NEED TO MENTION THOSE NOW AND, AND, AND MOTION TO MOVE THOSE TO THE CON TO THE, UH, COMBINED HEARING ITEM NUMBER ONE? OR DO WE DO THAT, UH, IN, IN A FEW MINUTES. OKAY. I'M GONNA GIVE SOME COMMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT'S ALL REQUIRED. YOU MUST HEAR PUBLIC COMMENTS BEFORE YOU VOTE. UM, AND THAT DOES GET CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING IT ON STENT KNOWING THAT THERE ARE COMMENTS THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION AND YOU'RE ALREADY PREDETERMINING AN OUTCOME. I WOULD ADVISE WHERE THERE ARE, UH, NEGATIVE COMMENTS THAT YOU HEAR THEM INDIVIDUALLY. I, I AGREE WITH THAT. OKAY. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER , DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? NO, I'M CHAIR. I THINK, I THINK THAT SUPERSEDES ANY COMMENT I WAS GONNA MAKE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WELL THEN I, UM, IN LIGHT OF THAT, I DID FIND SOME COMMENTS FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND ONE COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 25. SO THOSE WOULD NEED TO BE MOVED OVER. OKAY. IF WE COULD PLEASE DO THAT AND WHOEVER'S GONNA MAKE THE MOTION, [00:20:01] PLEASE MAKE NOTE THAT WE ARE MOVING SEVEN AND 25 TO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING. THANK YOU. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, ITEMS NUMBER 5 8 10 14 15, 17, 18, 21, 23, AND 24. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER JONES. SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR, THEN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. I HAVE A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER AND, UH, WAS WAS THE SECOND BY MCDANIEL? NO, IT WAS JOE OR DR. JONES. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT MOTION TO APPROVE. UM, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAM? YES. COMMISSIONER WEY. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIRMAN MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 ZERO. OKAY, WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS, PLEASE. [1. 20-3391 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700337 ERZD (Council District 9): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3 MLOD-1 MLR-2 ERZD" General Commercial Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Edwards Recharge Zone District to "MF-33 MLOD-1 MLR-2 ERZD" Multi-Family Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Edwards Recharge Zone District on Lot 3, Block 7, NCB 19218, generally located in the 20000 Block of Stone Oak Parkway. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS A REQUEST TO RESIGN FROM C THREE TO MS 33 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 20,000 BLOCKS OF STONE OAK PARKWAY, THERE ARE 11 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE. THE PROPOSED MS 33 IS CONSISTENT WITH THE MX 25 TO THE WEST OF THE SUBJECT SITE. IT IS ALSO SUITABLE TO THE AREA AND ADDS TO THE MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WE DO HAVE A SA REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE REPORT. THANK YOU. MAY HAVE THE, UH, SA REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE? YES. UH, MICHAEL ANTE THE OFFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION. UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT THE 20,000 BLOCK OF, UH, STONE OAK PARKWAY TO ALLOW A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. A SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURE WAS OBSERVED ON SITE AND, AND WAS, UH, PREVIOUSLY NOTED ON A, UH, GEOLOGIC ASSESSMENT. SAWS IS RECOMMENDING 65% IN PURVIS COVER FOR THE OVERALL 13.33 ACRES. AND A NATURAL BUFFER WILL BE PROVIDED FOR THE SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURE AS SHOWN ON FIGURE SAWS RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH ALL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT. THANK YOU. UM, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES. HI, THIS IS ASHLEY MONT WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT. UM, IM GERALD. WELL, UH, I DO HAVE A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION. I'M ALSO HERE WITH GER, THE W G I, THE PROJECT ENGINEER SPECIFIC ENGINEERING QUESTION. UM, AS CHRISTIE MENTIONED, WE ARE REQUESTING NEW ING TO M MS 33 TO ALLOW FOR A NEW MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT PROJECT ON PARKWAY. UM, I DO WANNA NOTE THAT WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WITH US, MR. CAPITAL, IN CASE THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT RUSSELL ANSWERS. UM, . UM, SO I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THE LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, UH, BECAUSE WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN IDEAL LOCATION FOR A NEW MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, UM, TO THE EAST OF THE PROJECT SITE. UH, JUST OUTSIDE OF THE MAP ON THE PRESENTATION IN, UM, THE INTERSECTION OF 2 81 AND STONE PARKRIDGE. UM, THERE'S A BRAND NEW PARKING RIDE AT THIS INTERSECTION AS WELL AS SOME, YOU KNOW, REGIONAL COMMERCIAL CANVASES. AND THEN IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE PROJECT IS THE JP MORGAN STATE, UH, CAMPUS TO WEST. THERE ARE OTHER APARTMENTS. AND THEN TO THE SOUTH THERE'S COMMERCIAL USES. UM, AND THEN SINGLE FAMILY A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH AND FINALLY TO THE NORTH, UM, HERE AT THE CITY . SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED, WE DO BELIEVE THAT MULTIFAMILY , THIS LOCATION WITH THE SURROUNDING USES, UH, THE PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORHOOD OR REGIONAL SERVICES, UH, INCLUDING THAT PARKING RIDE. UM, SLIDE THREE PLEASE. UM, SO HERE'S [00:25:01] A, JUST THE ZONING MAP SHOWING THAT MIXTURE OF USES. AND I DO WANNA ALSO POINT OUT, UH, WE'RE IN THE, THE OVERLAY, SO YOU'LL COMPLY WITH THE DOWN LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS. UH, AND THEN THE E R D D OVERLAY IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, I DO ALSO WANNA USE THIS MAP TO POINT OUT, UM, THE, SO ASSOCI, THEY'RE THAT FAMILY DEVELOPMENT YOU CAN SEE ON THE SOUTH OF THE ZONING MAP. UM, WE'VE MET WITH THIS GROUP SEVERAL TIMES AND SHARED THE PROJECT PLANS AND THEY ARE TAKING, UM, A POSITION THAT'S NOT OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING, UM, LIKE FOR PLEA. UM, AND THEN THEY, THEY'RE ALSO , UM, THE UMBRELLA ASSOCIATION OF THE P O A. UM, AND THE DEVELOPER AND PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS GROUP FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND THEY'RE ALSO NOT OPPOSED. UM, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR THEM NON ACQUISITION IS, UM, ON THIS SLIDE ON THE LEFT SIDE, THE MAP OF THE ORIGINAL MASTER PLAN IN THE 1980, UH, TO PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY USE, CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE LAND USE IN THIS MAP. UH, WE'RE ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE NORTH SECTOR PLANS, LAND USE, ORIGINAL COMMERCIAL, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO AMEND ANY PLANS REQUEST. UM, SLIDE FIVE PLEASE. UM, ONTO E R D D. I DO WANNA THANK MIKE AND ANTE MIKE , REPRESENTATIVE , UM, FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS REQUEST. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THEM FOR, FOR A WHILE NOW. UM, THE SITE IS CATEGORY ONE, A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPROVELY COVER. CURRENTLY WE ARE REDUCING THAT 55% MY COMMISSION. UH, AND THERE IS THAT THE GEOLOGIC FEATURE ON THE PROPERTY. UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SNO AND THIS CASE BEEN WORKING WITH US. UH, RUSSELL'S WORK ON THIS AS WELL. UH, WE WORK TO CREATE A TAILORED BUFFER ESSENTIALLY AROUND THIS GEOLOGIC FEATURE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS THROUGH THE ZONING REQUEST. UM, THAT BASICALLY WE CAN BUFFER THE FEATURE AS WELL AS THE DRAINAGE STRUCTURE OF THAT FEATURE AND HOW IT IT DRAINS. UM, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE NEXT SLIDE FOR THAT. BUT THERE ARE ALSO ADDITIONAL FENCING AND BURN REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT , UH, AND ABLE TO ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS SUCH AS WATER POLLUTION ABATEMENT AND OTHERS. SLIDE SIX PLEASE. SO THIS IS, UH, THE SITE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE ON HERE, UM, TO THE RIGHT OF THE SITE IN THE, BASICALLY THE MIDDLE, THERE'S A, A LONG KIND, A NARROW SCENARIO WHERE THERE'S NO BUILDINGS. THAT'S THE NATURAL BUFFER OF THE GEOLOGIC FEATURE, UM, IS ABOUT A THIRD AN ACRE IN SIZE. AND, AND AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, IT WILL REMAIN NATURAL. UM, ONE OTHER THING I DO WANNA POINT OUT THIS NIGHT WILL, UH, PRIMARILY BE ONE BEDROOM UNIT. ABOUT 80, 81% OF ABUNDANCE WILL BE ONE BEDROOM. AND SLIDE SEVEN INCLUDE, I KNOW THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY, UM, ARE WE GETTING TO CONSIDERATION, BUT WE WANNA PROVIDE A COUPLE OF PICTURES OF EXAMPLES OF ANOTHER PROJECT FROM THIS DEVELOPER THAT HAS A SIMILAR NATURAL ENVIRONMENT. UM, SEE WHAT THIS PROJECT WOULD LOOK LIKE. UH, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UH, CLUBHOUSE AND POOL AND THEN IT CAN FROM THE SLIDE EIGHT WITH SOME PICTURES OF COMMUNITY SPACE, UM, THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT THE PROJECT. AND THIS IS AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE, BUT SIMILAR IN THE ENVIRONMENT. SO, UM, WITH THAT, I, I WILL WRAP UP, BUT RUSSELL AND I ARE GOING TO ANSWER. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. SO MY BRAIN, UM, THAT IS COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU, . GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU ASHLEY. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU DID WORK WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE STREET, ESPECIALLY THE RESIDENTIAL. UM, I WAS AT THE ONE MEETING AND FOUND YOU TO BE VERY, UM, ACCOMMODATING TO ANY QUESTIONS AND ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAD AND REALLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO ASK YOUR DEVELOPER, UM, WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE SO THAT YOU COULD WORK THROUGH THIS PROJECT. UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS IF YOU DON'T MIND. UM, COULD YOU TELL ME ON THE PARKING SPACES AND THE TREES, HOW MANY TREES WILL BE LEFT? HOW MANY WILL BE PLANTED, I GUESS THAT YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE THE TOTAL AMOUNT. AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES DID I LOSE HER? UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I HEAR NOW PATTY. YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SO THE SITE PLAN ON THE PRESENTATION, UM, SLIDE SIX, [00:30:01] YOU CAN SEE KIND OF THE GREEN SPACE, UM, TREES THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE PLANTED. UM, AGAIN, THAT, THAT OUS COVER IS 35% OF THE AREA. UH, THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO MAINTAIN AS BEST AS POSSIBLE IN THE NATURAL OF THE SITE, UM, AS WELL AS AS NEW TREES, AS, AS WE CAN, WE CAN SEE THE PICTURES OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, UM, OF THIS DEVELOPER. IT REALLY ADDS TO THE PROJECT AND OBVIOUSLY BEST FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. AND, AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINING, DOING THE BEST THING WE COULD WITH SAWS AND THE AQUIFER WAS ALSO A GOAL, UM, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. UM, WITH REGARDS TO PARKING, THERE WILL BE, UM, 1.6 PARKING SPACES PER UNIT IS THE RATIO. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 530 PARKING SPACES, BUT THAT ALSO INCLUDES SOME, UM, 540 COUPLE OF GARAGES WITHIN THE BUILDING. OKAY. SO, UH, HOW MANY, HOW MANY ACRES IS THIS AGAIN? UH, 13.33 ACRES. OKAY. 13 ON THE NATURAL BUFFER. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE? SURE. THIS IS, UH, RUSSELL GER, THE ENGINEER. I'VE WORKED WITH SA TO DEFINE THAT BUFFER AREA. WHAT WE LOOKED TO DO WHEN WE WORKED WITH SAW WAS TO IDENTIFY THE UPSTREAM DRAINAGE AREA AND THEN PROTECT THE ENTIRE UPSTREAM DRAINAGE AREA THAT, THAT DRAINS TO THIS BUFFER. UH, THE TRADITIONAL BUFFER WOULD JUST BE A, A CIRCLE AROUND THAT ACTUALLY BUFFER SOME AREAS THAT AREN'T PROTECTING THE WATER THAT GO INTO THAT FEATURE. SO WHAT THIS, THIS BUFFER DOES IS ACTUALLY PROTECT THE ENTIRE AREA GREEN THAT GOES INTO THIS FEATURE AND, AND NOT JUST WATER, UH, THE WATER AROUND IT, BUT THE WATER THAT GOES INTO IT BEYOND WHERE THE BUFFER WOULD'VE NORMALLY GONE. SO, UH, THE SHAPE IS DESIGNED FOR THE RAIN WALL THAT WOULD GO TO THAT BUFFER AND NOT JUST A KIND OF A RANDOM SHAPE THERE, BUT IT IS THE AREA THAT WOULD GO DRAINING INTO THAT FEATURE TO BE PROTECTED. OKAY. AND THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, UH, RAIN THAT FALLS OFF OF THE PARKING SPACES AND UP OF THE ROOFTOP SO THAT THAT'S ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT ON WHAT DRAINS IN THERE. SO THE AREAS THAT ARE ON, UM, NEW MANMADE SURFACES THAT ARE CONSIDERED, UM, IMPERVIOUS WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM THAT, THAT LOCATION AND BROUGHT TO A SEPARATE, A SEPARATE DRAINAGE AREA THAT WOULD BE, UH, CLEAN BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE NATURAL DRAINAGE WAVE. SO THIS AREA SHOULD BE A HUNDRED PERCENT NATURAL AND CONTAIN NO NEW DEVELOPMENT THAT DRAIN INTO THE UPPER AREA. SO DO YOU HAVE A RETENTION OR DETENTION POND THERE? SO NOT AROUND THE, THE, THE GE GEOLOGIC FEATURE. SO THE GEOLOGIC FEATURE ITSELF IS, IS ON A HILL, AND SO THE, IT IS NOT AT THE LOW POINT OF THE PROJECT. OKAY. SO WE WILL HAVE TO PROVIDE DETENTION AND WATER QUALITY FEATURES ON THE PROJECT FOR OUR OVERALL DRAINAGE FOR IT DRAIN OFF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. HOW MUCH OF THIS SITE IS, WOULD HAVE TO BE DEVELOPED FOR, UM, WATER AND SEWER? IS IT, I'M SURE THERE'S A TIE IN ALREADY CLOSE BY, OR WAS THERE ONE ALREADY THERE? SO THAT'LL MINIMIZE ANY DISRUPTION DURING DEVELOPMENT? UM, SO AS FAR AS LIKE THE UTILITIES, WHICH IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU GUYS WERE ASKING ABOUT, THE UTILITIES ARE ALREADY PRESENT. PARKWAY, THERE'S, THAT'S ALREADY WHERE WAS DEVELOPED PRIOR TO THIS PROJECT AND OKAY. IT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR SOME TIME, AND SO WE'LL JUST BE CONNECTING INTO EXISTING UTILITIES AND WITHIN THE, THE THOUGHT SYSTEM. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND THEN ASHLEY, UM, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THINGS THAT YOU DID HAVE WITH THE, UM, SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES, DO YOU FEEL THAT, UM, YOU ADDRESSED ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS AND THEY'RE PRETTY HAPPY WITH THAT? UM, YEAH, I THINK WE DID OUR BEST TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK OBVIOUSLY DEVELOPMENT OF ANY TRACK MAY NOT BE WHERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD PREFERS, BUT I THINK THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING MULTIFAMILY HERE WITH THE RESTRICTIONS THAT CAME ALONG WITH THE ZONING, UM, YOU KNOW, TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT, TO HAVE MORE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD LIKELY, YOU KNOW, CLEAR CUT SITE. YES. OKAY. I, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER THAT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, BY SHOW OF HANDS, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER. WELL, THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, I'M REALLY KIND OF EXCITED. THIS IS ONE OF THE PLUS THE, ONE OF THE LAST [00:35:01] PIECES OF THE PAR LAND OUT IN STONE OAK, WHICH IS, UM, BY FAR ONE OF THOSE STONE OAKS, ONE OF THOSE BEAUTIFUL OPEN COMMUNITIES IN A SENSE BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'S NEVER WAS A, A CLOSED COMMUNITY WITH GATES OR ANYTHING, BUT IT'S AN OPEN COMMUNITY AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF LAND AND WE GET TO SEE HOW DEVELOPMENT IS WONDERFULLY DONE, UM, IN ALL SORTS OF PHASES, FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY TO COMMERCIAL OUT IN THAT AREA. SO ON THIS CASE, UM, NUMBER ONE, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE YOU, THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? JONES? I SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER UH, JONES. ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS BY SHOW OF HANDS? OKAY. SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. A MOTION TO APPROVE. UH, SO DR. JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. IS COMMISSIONER QUI. HI, COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. COMMISSIONER AND CHAIR D? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. [Items 2 & 3] ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, CHAIR, THIS IS CHRISTIE. I CAN READ ITEM TWO AND THREE TOGETHER IF YOU WOULD LIKE, BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH HISTORICAL LANDMARK CASES. I, I'M FINE WITH THAT UNLESS ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE OBJECTIONS. OKAY. YES, PLEASE. GREAT. ITEM NUMBER TWO AND ITEM NUMBER THREE, A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D TO R SIX H L A H ONE IS LOCATED AT 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA AND THE OTHER IS FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA. THERE WERE AT 30 25, THERE WERE 25 NOTICES OF MAILS FOR ITEM TWO. FOUR WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. ONE IN OPPOSITION TO HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR AND A NUMBER OF OTHER ASSOCIATIONS AND SOCIETIES ARE IN FAVOR, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY, ALTA VISTA AND BEACON HILL. ITEM NUMBER 3, 23 NOTICES WERE MAILED. THE FOUR RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND ALL OF THE SAME ASSOCIATIONS WERE IN FAVOR. THIS REQUEST IS TO ADD THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION ON MAY 15TH, 2019. THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION REVIEWED A FIND A FINDING OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE THAT DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. AND I HAVE A NUMBER OF LETTERS TO READ. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION FIRST? YES, THAT WOULD BE NICE. THANK YOU. ARE THEY AVAILABLE? HI, THIS IS JENNY HAY. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME NOW? YES. YES. OKAY, GREAT. . EXCELLENT. WELL, UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER. THANKS FOR, UM, LETTING ME COME VIRTUALLY TO TALK TO YOU AGAIN TODAY. UH, I'M JENNY HAY. I'M THE PROGRAM MANAGER AT THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION. UM, I'M GONNA PRESENT ABOUT BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT THEY'RE ADJACENT AND SHARE THE SAME, UM, OWNER, UM, TO SAVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THEM, UM, EACH INDIVIDUALLY, YOU KNOW, AS YOU WOULD PREFER. UM, SO IF THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A LANDMARK DESIGNATION OR TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THE STRUCTURE AT FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA IS A TWO STORY VICTORIAN, UH, ERA HOME. IT WAS BUILT IN 1905 BY THOMAS NORTHWAY AND THE PROPERTY IN THE REAR. THE STRUCTURE IN THE REAR IS A TWO STORY ACCESSORY WITH CRAFTSMAN STYLE DETAILS ALSO BUILT BY THOMAS NORTHWAY IN ABOUT 1909. UM, COULD YOU GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE OF MY PRESENTATION? THANKS. [00:40:02] ALL RIGHT. THOSE PROPERTIES ARE IN DISTRICT ONE, UH, FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA IS THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, AND IT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST BUILT ON THIS BLOCK. IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADDRESSED THREE 50 RURAL AVENUE. UM, THOMAS AND HIS WIFE AVA BEGAN PURCHASING LOTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF RURAL AVENUE IN THE MID 1890S, AND, UM, EVENTUALLY EXPANDED THEIR PURCHASES TO INCLUDE PROPERTIES ON SEVERAL OTHER STREETS WITHIN THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, UM, THEIR EARLY INVESTMENT AND TOBIN HILL REALLY HELPED SHAPE THE RESIDENTIAL GROWTH HERE GROWTH. RIGHT. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? THANK YOU. SO THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY OWNER HAS SUBMITTED REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION IN MARCH OF 2019. AND, UM, UH, AS WE REVIEWED THESE PROPERTIES, O H P RECEIVED 24 LETTERS OF OPPOSITION, UH, TO THE DEMOLITION FROM THE COMMUNITY. THAT WAS, UM, AN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF, UH, UH, RESPONSES. AND SO, UM, IN LIGHT OF THAT, AND IN LIGHT OF THIS AREA BEING IDENTIFIED PREVIOUSLY AS A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, O H P STAFF ASKED THE HISTORIC AND DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION TO CONSIDER WHETHER THE PROPERTIES MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR INDIVIDUAL DESIGNATION, UM, THAT HE OR C DID RECOMMEND, UM, THAT THEY GO TO CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION OF ELIGIBLE LANDMARKS. AND CITY COUNCIL AGREED WITH H D R C IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR AND APPROVED A RESOLUTION TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO INITIATE THE REZONING PROCESS FOR DESIGNATION. UM, IN OCTOBER OF LAST YEAR, THE PROPERTY CHANGED HANDS AND THE NEW OWNERS, UH, WITHDREW THOSE DEMOLITION APPLICATIONS. THE NEW OWNERS ARE IN SUPPORT OF DESIGNATION FOR BOTH OF THE PROPERTIES. ALL RIGHT. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? UM, JUST VERY BRIEFLY, THE COMMISSION EVALUATED, UM, BOTH OF THESE STRUCTURES FOR ELIGIBILITY AND FOUND THAT THEY MET THREE CRITERIA, WHICH IS WHAT THE U D C REQUIRES. UM, CRITERION THREE FOR THEIR ASSOCIATION WAS THE NORTHWAY WHO BUILT AND LIVED MAGNOLIA AND OBVIOUSLY MADE A, UM, AN IMPRESSIVE INVESTMENT IN THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, CRITERION SEVEN AS, UM, UH, THE FIRST STRUCTURES WITHIN THIS BLOCK. AND, UM, SORT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE EARLIEST RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES IN THE SUBDIVISION, WHICH HAD BEEN FARMLAND PREVIOUSLY. AND CRITERIA 13 BECAUSE, UH, UH, AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THESE STRUCTURES WERE INCLUDED IN A SURVEY IN 2005 AND IDENTIFIED AS PART OF A POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICT. AND THEN IF YOU COULD GO TO, UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. UM, UH, AS I STATED, THE HISTORIC AND DESIGNER REVIEW COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL BOTH FOUND THESE PROPERTIES ELIGIBLE FOR DESIGNATION LAST YEAR, AND SO O H P STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THIS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME. THANK YOU. PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. THE FIRST LETTER IS FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY FOR FOUR 30 AND 4 34 EIGHTH MAGNOLIA, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO CONCUR AS A FINDING OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANCE FOR FOUR 30 AND 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA. THE BUILDING WAS AMONG THE FIRST CONSTRUCTED ON THE 400 BLOCK OF EAST MAGNOLIA, AND SERVED AS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE HOME OF THOMAS AND EVA NORTHWAY, TWO EARLY INVESTORS IN TYING HILL WHO HELPED SHAPE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT HAS BEEN DETERMINED BY O H C THAT THIS BUILDING MEETS THREE OF THE LANDMARK DESIGNATION CRITERIA AS SET BY SECTION 35 DASH 6 0 7 B OF THE CITY'S UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE, MAKING IT WORTHY OF LANDMARK STATUS. THE POSSIBILITY OF ITS LOSS WOULD BE BOTH DETRIMENTAL TO THE HISTORIC INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND POTENTIALLY DAMAGING TO OTHER STRUCTURES DUE TO THE NOTED DRAINAGE ISSUES ACCOMPANYING NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA. THANK YOU. PATTY ZION, PRESIDENT OF THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY. ALSO THIS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST IN THE TOKEN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT ARE REQUESTING THAT FOUR 30 AND 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE BE REZONED FROM R FOUR A H O D TO R SIX H L A H O D. PLEASE REFERENCE ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 2 33 HL AND 2 49 HL. THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS SUPPORTS THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION OF THE TWO REFERENCED PROPERTIES. WE STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THE PRESERVATION OF THE HOUSING STOCK AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE CHARACTER OF OUR DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOODS. THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION WILL BETTER ENSURE THAT THESE TWO KEY COMPONENTS OF NEIGHBORHOOD VITALITY ARE PROTECTED FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE RESIDENTS. HAVING BEEN FACED WITH OUR OWN CHALLENGES, WE KNOW HOW ESSENTIAL IT IS TO CONTINUE THE FIGHT FOR [00:45:01] SAVING SAN ANTONIO'S CONSERVATION DISTRICTS. THIS MEANS PROVIDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN A CULTURALLY COMPETENT ENVIRONMENT. THIS MEANS STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT STANDARDS, AND THIS MEANS WORKING TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS TO MODERN DAY CHALLENGES. REZONING THESE HOUSES TO A HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION WILL PROTECT THE FUTURE OF TOBIN HILL. THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS ASKING THE ZONING COMMISSION TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE. AND BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS VOTED TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST FOR LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR PROPERTIES LOCATED AT FOUR 30 AND 4 30 40 MAGNOLIA. IT IS THE POLICY OF OUR BOARD TO SUPPORT THE PRESERVATION OF LEGACY HOUSING STOCK WHENEVER POSSIBLE WITHIN OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOUNDARIES AND TO SUPPORT OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH THOSE MUTUAL GOALS. FOR THIS REASON, WE SUBMITTED A LETTER LETTER OF SUPPORT TO THE HISTORIC DESIGN AND REVIEW COMMISSION FOR THE MAY 15TH, 2019 HEARING. TOKEN HILL IS ONE OF THE OLDEST NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY AND CONTAINS MANY HISTORICAL TREASURES AND BODY IN BUILDINGS, AND ITS PEOPLE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FA TOMORROW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. THE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF THE CITY'S GROWTH PLAN. WE APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR INFILL HOUSING, BUT DO NOT AGREE THAT DEMOLISHING EXISTING HOUSING TO CREATE NEW HOUSING IS THE BEST PATH. MR. DLA ALSO OWNS FOUR PROPERTIES IN BEACON HILL. SO WE HAVE AN A VESTED INTEREST IN NOT SETTING A PRECEDENT PRECEDENT FOR HOUSING DEMOLITION AS A TOOL TO INCREASE PROPERTY VALUES, WHICH IS MR. DOOS INTENDED REASON FOR REQUESTING THE DEMOLITION. WE RESPECTFULLY RE REQUEST THAT YOU RECOGNIZE THE TOKEN HILL NEIGHBORS AND THE TOKEN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS THE OFFICE OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND THE HISTORIC DESIGN AND REVIEW COMMISSION IN PURSUIT OF A FINDING OF HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. RESPECTFULLY, BEACON HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND TOBIN HILL LETTERS FOR FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE FAIR COUNTY ASSESSMENT SHOWS THAT THE HOUSE AT FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA WAS BUILT IN 1895, AND IT MAY WELL BE SO IN 1894, PERMIT WAS ISSUED TO A PERSON NAMED NORTHWAY FOR A DWELLING IN THAT VICINITY. THE NORTHWAY FAMILY WAS DEALING IN REAL ESTATE SINCE AT LEAST 1890. THEY EVENTUALLY OWNED MOST OF THE LOTS BEGINNING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST MAGNOLIA AT HOLMES STREET AND STRETCHING TOWARD THE EAST IN 1894, T H NORTHWAY T A PERMIT TO BUILD ON MCCULLOUGH AVENUE BY 1899 OR 1900, THOMAS H NORTHWAY WAS LIVING ON RURAL AVENUE. HE AND HIS WIFE EVA HAD BECOME PARENTS IN 1898. BUT THE ADDRESS, THE ADDRESS IS NOT GIVEN IN THE NEWS TEXT, PAPER ANNOUNCEMENT, POSSIBLY BECAUSE RURAL AVENUE HAD NO STREET NUMBERS AT THE TIME. RURAL SHOWS UP ON THE SANBOARD MAP IN 1912, BUT BY 1906 TH NORTHWAY OWNED WHAT WAS THEN THREE 20 RURAL AVENUE, WHICH IS NOW FOUR 30 EAST AVENUE, EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE. THEY RAISED THEIR FAMILY THERE NEAR TO SCHOOL. THOMAS H NORTHWAY DIED SOMETIME BETWEEN 1930 AND 1932. AND IN 1934, EVA DIED, BUT NOT BEFORE SHE SOLD FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA TO DAUGHTER INEZ NORTHWAY THUR. THE PROPERTY STAYED IN THE THURMAN NORTHWAY FAMILY UNTIL IN 2003. IT WAS SOLD OVER THE YEARS. IT HAS UNDERGONE CHANGES, BUT IT EXHIBITS THE SAME FOOTPRINT THAT IT DID ON THE 1912 SAND BOARD MAP. IT HAS BEEN A CONTRIBUTING PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR AT LEAST 100 YEARS, OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY FOR ALMOST ALL THAT TIME. THE TOKEN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION IS PROUD TO SUPPORT, SUPPORT THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE. THE NORTHWAY HOUSE HAS LONG BEEN PART OF THE HISTORY AND HERITAGE OF TOKEN HILL AND DESERVES TO BE RENOVATED AND PRESERVED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. RODRIGUEZ KUSHNER OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, AS WELL AS A LETTER FOR FROM TOKEN HILL FOR 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA AVENUE. IT APPEARS THAT THE SMALL TWO STORY BUILDING AT 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA WAS ORIGINALLY ON THE SAME LOT AS FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA. ACCORDING TO BEXAR COUNTY RECORDS, THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1945, AND THAT APPEARS TO BE ACCURATE. THE 1931 SANBORN MAP SHOWS A LOT WITH THE HOUSE A NO BUILDING IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, BUT THE 1951 SANBORN MAP SHOWS THE [00:50:01] HOUSE AT FOUR 30 AND ANOTHER NUMBER 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA SHARING THE SAME LOT. THE 1951 MAP SHOWS TWO BUILDINGS, THE SMALLER BEING IN THE SOUTH EAST CORNER OF THE LOT WHERE THE PRESENT STRUCTURE IS LOCATED. IN THE 1946 CITY DIRECTORY, FRED B HARD IS LISTED AS THE RESIDENT, BUT NOT THE OWNER OF 4 34 EAST MAGNOLIA. IT SEEMS THAT ORIGINALLY BOTH BUILDINGS WERE ON THE SAME LOT, BUT WITH DIFFERENT MEMBERS AS NO LOT LINE APPEARS TO DIVIDE THE PROPERTY IN TWO. THE DIVISION IN TWO LOTS OCCURRED SOMETIME AFTER 1951. THE SANBORN MAPS SHOW THAT THIS BUILDING HAS ALWAYS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTHWAY HOUSE AT FOUR 30 EAST MAGNOLIA AND THE NORTHWAY FAMILY. IT ENJOYS THE SAME LONG HERITAGE, WHICH GIVES IT VALUE VIEW TO THE, WHICH GIVES VALUE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THE BUILDING HAS BEEN LIVED IN AND KEPT UP FOR OVER THE YEARS. IT HAS BECOME A PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE TOKEN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION FOR 4 34 EAST MAGIA AVENUE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. ROD K. HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, UM, REPRESENTING, UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TODAY. DOES THAT BE FOR COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? THAT IS ME, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE FOR COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE TODAY. UM, AT THIS TIME, MADAM CHAIR, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UH, WOULD WE LIKE TO OPEN THAT UP FURTHER QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION CHAIR? COMMISSIONER ANTE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UM, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. ONE THING I WANTED TO BE CLEAR ON. DR. HAY, THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY IS IN, OR, UH, HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO ONE OF THE LETTERS INDICATED THAT, THAT THEY HAD BEEN SEEKING DEMOLITION, BUT THAT SEEMS TO EITHER HAVE CHANGED OR, UM, A NEW OWNER CAME IN AND IS NOW REQUESTING THIS DESIGNATION OF HISTORIC LAND. THERE WAS A NEW OWNER, UM, BETWEEN THE INITIAL REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION, WHICH HAPPENED IN MARCH OF LAST YEAR, UM, A THE PROPERTY, UH, WAS SOLD IN OCTOBER. AND SO THE NEW OWNER IS IN FAVOR OF THE DESIGNATION. THANK YOU DR. HAY. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. ARE THERE OTHER DESIGNATED HISTORIC HOUSES NEARBY BESIDES THIS ONE YOU, YOU WANNA DESIGNATE? UM, SURE. SO THIS ACTUALLY IS LOCATED VERY CLOSE TO, UM, THE MONTE VISTA HISTORIC DISTRICT. UM, JUST SORT OF A BLOCK, UM, UH, AWAY A BLOCK OR TWO AWAY. SO, UM, IT'S, UH, VERY CLOSE. THERE'S ALSO, UM, A, A RELATIVELY NEW, I THINK JUST DESIGNATED LAST YEAR, UM, LANDMARK ON, UM, MISSILE TOE JUST, UH, JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. OKAY. AND SO YOU APPROACHED THE, THE NEW OWNERS AS TO YOUR DESIRE FOR THE DESIGNATION OR THEY APPROACHED THE OWNERS, APPROACHED YOU? THE DESIGNATION PROCESS WAS UNDERWAY WHEN THE PROPERTY CHANGED HANDS AND THE DESIGNATION HAPPENS, UM, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, UH, DIRECTED US TO, TO ACT. AND SO, UM, UH, THAT DIDN'T CHANGE BASED ON A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP. SO, UM, AS SOON AS THEY CAME INTO THE PICTURE, WE BEGAN WORKING WITH THEM. AND ACTUALLY, YOU'LL KIND OF NOTICE THAT THINGS SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE, UM, IN FALL OF LAST YEAR, AND THAT WAS AT THEIR REQUEST, UM, BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO WORK THROUGH SOME PLANS AND SEE WHAT THEY COULD MAKE WORK, UM, UH, THAT THAT COULD MEET TO HISTORIC DESIGN GUIDELINES. AND SO, UM, SO WE, WE ACCOMMODATED THAT, UM, UH, LIKE I SAID, IN, IN THE FALL OF LAST YEAR. SO WHICH CAME FIRST, THE REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION, OR YOUR REQUEST FOR THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION? THE REQUEST FOR DEMOLITION CAME FIRST IN MARCH OF 2019. OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, . THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THANK YOU CHAIR, AND THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, A STAFF GOOD AND PERHAPS REMIND US, I BELIEVE THESE TWO PROPERTIES CAME BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION SOMETIME PERHAPS IN MAY, UH, WITH THE REQUEST TO DESIGNATE, I GUESS, UH, AN ADDITIONAL DWELLING UNIT OR SOMETHING ON EACH PROPERTY. AM I REMEMBERING THAT CORRECTLY? YES, YOU ARE. AND THERE WAS AN ACCOMPANYING, UH, MORE RECENT CASE THAT THAT ACCOMPANIED THAT, THAT WAS [00:55:01] HEARD AT JUST THE LAST MEETING ON MAY 19TH. GREAT. UM, THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANNA TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK, UM, CITY STAFF AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT FOR BEING SO WILLING TO LOOK AT THIS PROPERTY AND TO DO WHAT THEY POSSIBLY COULD TO SAY THAT THEN TO PRESERVE THAT HISTORIC NATURE AND FEATURES. UM, IT, IT, IT'S ALWAYS A STRUGGLE, I THINK ESPECIALLY IN DISTRICT ONE WHERE WE HAVE SO MANY HISTORICAL AREAS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO RESERVE. AND YET AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S AN AREA THAT IS SEEING, UH, A LOT OF NEW GROWTH AND, AND FUTURE PLANNING FOR SOME, SOME DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES COMING IN THE FUTURE. SO AGAIN, I JUST WANNA APPRECIATE OR EXTEND MY APPRECIATION TO EVERYBODY THAT'S WORKED ON THIS. I KNOW IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY. AND, AND AGAIN, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS, UM, SHOWN AND COMMENTED THAT HE'S WILLING TO DO THIS MOVING FORWARD. UH, WITH THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM ITEM TWO AND THREE SECOND ROMERO. OKAY, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL FOR ITEMS TWO AND THREE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY QUESTIONS BY SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. MOTION IS TO APPROVE. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, APPROVE. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER LEE. A. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 ZERO FOR ITEM TWO AND THREE. [4. 20-3497 (Continued from 05/19/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700050 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 NCD-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-5 NCD-2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District on the east 45.82 feet of Lot 7, Block 6, NCB 1892, located at 806 West French Place. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM R SIX NC D TWO A H O V TO RMM FIVE NC D TWO A H O V LOCATED AT 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND ALSO VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. WE ALSO RECEIVED TWO LETTERS OF OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THERE ARE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES IN THE AREA WITH SIMILAR DENSITY. THE REQUESTED RMM FIVE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND WOULD ALLOW FOR THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DENSITY OF SURROUNDING PROPERTY. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WE HAVE JO JONATHAN BUCKINGHAM ON THE LINE. OKAY. MAY WE HAVE MR. BUCKINGHAM PLEASE? NAME'S JOHNNY BUCKINGHAM. HOW IS EVERYONE DOING? GOOD. GOOD, THANK YOU. UH, YOU CAN PROCEED. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AWESOME. UM, I AM REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE ON THIS SUBJECT OR, OR THIS FILE. UM, I BELIEVE THE NEXT UH, DATE IS JULY 7TH. UH, STAFF? THAT IS CORRECT. THE NEXT CONTINUANCE DATE WOULD BE, UH, DO YOU HAVE THE OPTIONS OF JULY 7TH OR JULY 21? UH, JULY 7TH WOULD BE THE, OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THE RECORD? YES, MA'AM. THERE'S A FEW THINGS I HAVE TO READ INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WOULD SUPPORT THIS ITEM BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DUMP FIX UP. I LIVE NEXT DOOR AND IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE IT LOOKING GOOD, HOWEVER, IT MUST HAVE PARKING AND UNTIL THE OWNER COMES UP WITH A SOLUTION TO THAT, I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE ICE DOOR NEXT DOOR DOOR. IN THE PAST, IT HAS BEEN RENTED TO TWO YOUNG FOLKS WHO FILLED A PLACE WITH COUCH TENANTS PARKING PROBLEMS. I DON'T MIND SIX VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROPERTY, COMPETING FOR PARKING ON THE STREET, BUT WHEN ONE OF THEM IS PARKED SO IT BLOCKS MY DRIVEWAY, THAT REALLY UPSETS [01:00:01] ME. I AM FUNCTIONALLY DEAF AND WHEN THE MUSIC FROM THAT HOUSE IS SO LOUD THAT I CAN HEAR IT FROM MY BEDROOM, THAT IS ANOTHER ISSUE. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER ABSENTEE OWNER WHO IS AN INVESTOR AND DOESN'T REALLY TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY. IT HAS BEEN NONSTOP A NONSTOP ANNOYANCE IN THE 30 YEARS I HAVE LIVED HERE. AND DESPITE THE NEW OWNER'S INTENT TO MAKE COSMETIC REPAIRS, I CAN SEE THE ANNOYANCE CONTINUING AND THEREFORE I'M IN OPPOSITION 8 0 8 WEST FRENCH ROBERT LOCKHORN, DAVID BOGLE AS THE OWNER OF 7 27 WEST FRENCH PLATE, A PROPERTY HOLDER WITHIN 200 FEET. I AM RESPONDING TO THE REQUEST TO CHANGE FROM OUR SIX TOWER FIVE. I OPPOSE THIS CHANGE FIRST, THE NEIGHBORHOOD LAND USE PLAN DOES NOT SUPPORT HIGHER DENSITY RM FIVE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION THAT LINES ALONG NORTH FLO STREET SHOULD ONLY APPLY TO PROPERTIES RENTING ON NORTH FLOSS. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE INTENTION OF THE LAND USE PLAN. AND P STRIP ALONG NORTH FLO IS MAPPING LAND USE PER PARCEL DOGGING THE LINE WAS NOT EASILY DONE BACK AT THAT TIME THAT THE LAND USE MAP WAS DRAWN. SECONDLY, GIVEN THE SIZE OF THE LOT AND THE POSITION OF THE EXISTING PRIMARY STRUCTURE, MAINTAINING THE EXISTING PRIMARY STRUCTURE DOES NOT APPEAR TO ALLOW FOR SUFFICIENT PARKING AND DEVELOPMENT OF AN ADDITIONAL TWO UNITS. PER THE APPLICANT'S INTENT, THE PROPERTY'S PRIMARY STRUCTURE SHOULD REMAIN PER M C D TWO GOALS OF PRESERVING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. NO, NOT SUFFICIENTLY DEVELOPED DESIGN OR PLANS HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH THE ALAVI NEIGHBORHOOD OR WITH ME AS A PROFESSIONAL PRACTICING ARCHITECT. I UNDERSTAND THAT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF USABILITY, PLANNING AND DESIGN IS REQUIRED TO CONFIRM AN INCREASE IN DENSITY WILL BE POSSIBLE WHILE MAINTAINING THE MANDATORY DESIGN STANDARDS OF A PARCEL. UNFORTUNATELY, THE APPROPRIATE LEVEL OF DEVELOPMENT HAS NOT BEEN UNDERTAKEN BY THE APPLICANT. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, IF THE REZONING WERE ALLOWED TO INCREASE THE DENSITY BEYOND THE CAPACITY OF A CODE COMPLIANT SOLUTION, IT WOULD CREATE A FALSE EXPECTATION FOR THE APPLICANT. UNTIL AN APPROPRIATE DESIGN IS SUBMITTED TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SUPPORT FOR INCREASED DENSITY SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION. THANK YOU FOR COUNTING MY VOTE IF POSSIBLE BEFORE THEY DO ANY THANKS. DAVID. BOB HECTOR . I WRITE TO YOU ABOUT THE ZONING APPLICATION FOR 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE. I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SINCE 1986. I WAS SERVING AS PRESIDENT DURING THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD'S PLAN ADOPTED IN 2000. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT OUR LAND USE PLAN SHOWS THAT WE CONSIDERED THESE PROPERTIES ALONG THE 800 BLOCK OF WEST FRENCH FOR POSSIBLE COMMERCIAL LAND USE. IN OUR PLAN, I'M ATTACHING A PORTION OF THE MAP FROM OUR PLAN THAT SHOWS THE PROPERTY AT LOW DENSITY. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS DONE R SIX, AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WISH IT TO STAY. WEST FRENCHES SINGLE LOTS ADJOINING NORTH FLOODS WERE AWARDED A RECOMMENDATION, A MEDIUM DENSITY I, ALONG WITH OTHER FOLKS THAT WORKED FOR OVER A YEAR TO PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER. WE PROBABLY AGREE THAT THE PROPERTY SHOULD REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY R SIX. WHILE WE WERE NEVER OPPOSED TO SMALL REAR APARTMENTS GRANNY FLAT, WE WERE OPPOSED TO ANY MULTI-FAMILY RENTALS BEING CONSTRUCTED ON THE REAR OF EXISTING HOMES. PARKING ON OUR OLD STREETS WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS FOR NOT WANTING MULTI-FAMILY STRUCTURES. THE OTHER AIM WAS THAT WE REMAIN STRONG ADVOCATES OF HOME OWNERSHIP. 25 YEARS OF WORK BY ALTA VISTA HAS TRANSFORMED THIS ONE DECLINING INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOOD INTO ONE OF THIS TOWN'S MOST COVETED PLACES TO LIVE. MANY OF THE OLD DILAPIDATED RENTAL HOMES ARE NOW RESTORED INTO WARM, COMFORTABLE HOMES BY FAMILIES THAT HAVE MADE THE INVESTMENTS WE WERE LOOKING FOR. IN OUR PLAN, VISTA HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY IN MAKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD FAMILY FRIENDLY AND BUILD WITH HOMEOWNERS YOUNG AND OLD. I ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS INVESTOR HIS REZONING REQUEST. SINCERELY, HECTOR , THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPOSED REZONING CHANGE AT 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE. THE AUXILIARY STRUCTURE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH CITY CODE AND APPEARS TO EXCEED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT. FURTHERMORE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS EXPRESSED ITS CONCERN THAT THE LARGE LOT SIZE DOES NOT [01:05:01] MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTIFAMILY USE UNDER R M FIVE ZONING AND ALTA VISTA. WE SUPPORT THEIR REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION AND URGE YOU NOT TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. PATTY VANCE, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY ALL VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AS OPPOSED TO THE ZONING REQUEST CASE 20 21 0 7 500 FOR 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE AT THE TUESDAY, MAY 19TH ZONING HEARING. IT WAS DECIDED AT THAT TIME BY THE ZONING COMMISSION TO GRANT A CONTINUANCE FOR THIS CASE. SINCE THAT TIME, THE AL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD MEMBERS AND SOME NEIGHBORS HAVE HAD CONVERSATION WITH MR. JOHNNY BUCKINGHAM, PROPERTY OWNER OF 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH, AND BUSINESS OWNER OF MILITARY CRASH PAD L L C. WE HELD A MEETING ON ZOOM ON TUESDAY, MAY 26TH AT 2:30 PM AND AMONG THE ATTENDEES WERE DEL BROOKS, DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT AND CITY PLANNING FOR DISTRICT ONE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE AND ZONING COMMISSIONER SUMMER GREATHOUSE AND GAIL MCDANIEL, ALL OF WHOM LENT THEIR EXPERTISE IN AIDING THE ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS. HOWEVER, ALL OF THE ANSWERS TO OUR QUESTIONS WERE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF MR. BUCKINGHAM TO PROVIDE AND THERE WAS NO CLEAR RESOLVE TO ANY ISSUE RAISED. IN CONCLUSION, WE ASKED, ASKED FOR A DETAILED DESCRIPTION AND DRAWING OF THE PROPERTY TO BE PROVIDED PRIOR TO TODAY, MONDAY, JUNE ONE. IN PREPARATION FOR THE HEARING, WE DID NOT GET THE DETAILS THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR, BUT RATHER WE, WE RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM MR. BUCKINGHAM WITH COMMENTARY SHARED BY AN ENGINEER THAT MR. BUCKING BUCKINGHAM HIRED TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY. THE NOTES PROVIDED IN THE EMAIL INCLUDED THE OPINION THAT THE BACK STRUCTURE IS FOUND TO INCLUDE THE FOUNDATION AND THAT THE OVERALL STRUCTURE CAN BE WORKED ON. IT INCLUDED SOME MEASUREMENTS FOR THE PARKING AND A COMMENT ABOUT THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY LINE. AT THE TIME OF THE EMAIL, MR. BUCKINGHAM SAID THAT THE REPORT WOULD NOT BE READY UNTIL WEDNESDAY, ALTHOUGH HE WAS TRYING TO GET IT EXPEDITED. THE ULTIMATE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD MAINTAINS THE POSITION OF OPPOSING THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE FROM R SIX TO R FIVE. WE MENTIONED AT THE ORIGINAL HEARING AND THROUGHOUT NUMEROUS EMAILS AND THE ZOOM MEETING THAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ZONING CHANGE WEIGHS SO HEAVILY THAT WE NEED TO BELIEVE, WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE VIABILITY OF THE PROPERTY AS A MULTI-UNIT PROPERTY, WHICH IS CONTINGENT ON THE BACK STRUCTURE. TODAY, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY INFORMATION THAT PROVIDES US WITH THAT CONFIDENCE AND ALLEVIATES THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPERTY ITSELF. LIKE THE LOT SIZE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND THE DETAILS. WE HAVE ASKED FOR VERY SPECIFIC DETAILS OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THE BACK STRUCTURE. IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE RECOGNIZED BY MR. BUCKINGHAM THAT THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION OF PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE ZONING CHANGE WILL REMAIN WITH THE PROPERTY, EVEN IF IT IS DETERMINED WITHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT THE PROPERTY OR THE BACK BUILDING IS NOT SUITABLE FOR MULTI-TENANT, MULTI-UNIT. AND AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE YET TO SEE A CODE INSPECTION, ALTHOUGH I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE IS ONE SCHEDULE. BUT, AND ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE MAINTAINED THE POSITION OF OPPOSING THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE OUT OF THE CONCERN FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY STOCK. MR. BUCKINGHAM REPLIED IN AN EMAIL TODAY THAT HE ALSO WANTED US TO KNOW IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF OUR QUESTIONS, THAT IF THE BACK BUILDING WAS DETERMINED, UNABLE TO BE REMODELED OR REHABILITATED, AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BECAUSE THERE CANNOT BE ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION FOR THE TERMS OF HIS LOAN, THE MAIN HOUSE WOULD BE USED AS AN AIRBNB. THIS SEEMS LIKE A FITTING SOLUTION FOR THIS CURRENT SITUATION. IT ALSO PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY MAINTAINING THE RM SIX DESIGNATION. WE ASKED, ASKED, AND WANTED TO KNOW VERY SPECIFICALLY WHY THIS PROPERTY. AND SO FOR NOT ONLY THIS PROPERTY, BUT FOR ALL ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL FUTURE IMPACT THE DISCREPANCIES OR MISINTERPRETATIONS OF THE MIDTOWN PLAN 2000 HAVE US ON HIGH ALERT AND IT WILL NOT BE UNTIL SOMETIME NEXT YEAR. SO WE'RE GUESSING THAT ALT VISTA WILL BE REVIEWED IN THE ESSAY TOMORROW PLAN. BUT IF THAT WERE BEING REVIEWED TODAY, THEN WE WOULD BE WORKING TO ENSURE THAT THIS, THAT THIS PROPERTY NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CORD THAT DOORS STAY MAINTAINED AS LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. WE GREATLY APPRECIATE [01:10:01] ALL THE WORK YOU DO IN KEEPING THE NEIGHBORHOOD STRONG AND SAN AND SAN ANTONIO STRONG. CHRISTINA WRIGHT, PRESIDENT OF ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, MR. BUCKINGHAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME, UH, FOR RESPONSE? HI. UM, I GUESS MY ONLY REQUEST THOUGH IS JUST, UH, CONTINUOUS. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, THANK YOU. UM, I WAS INVOLVED WITH THE CONVERSATION AND I DO WANNA, AGAIN, THANK ALL THE PARTIES WHO ARE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER TO UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND, UH, FOR HIS, UH, EFFORTS TO GO AHEAD AND OBTAIN STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING REVIEW, UH, AND PROVIDE THAT BACK FOR SOME RESOLUTION TO THIS CASE. IN THE MEANTIME, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAVE ASKED FOR A CONTINUANCE ON THIS. I'M HAPPY TO OPEN IT UP, UH, FOR QUESTIONS TO MY COLLEAGUES BEFORE I MAKE THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. OKAY. SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. WITH THAT, I MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF ITEM FOUR TO JULY 7TH, A SECONDED JONES. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, UH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? SHOW OF HANDS, PLEASE. C NONE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. MOTION TO CONTINUE TILL JULY 2ND. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER JONES. OH, YES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER? UH, YES. COMMISSIONER A. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, CHAIR MCGEE. D YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 ZERO. ALL RIGHT. MOVING [6. 20-3377 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700298 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 H AHOD" Residential Single-Family Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-1 H AHOD" Low Intensity Infill Development Zone Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 12, Block 1, NCB 528, located at 415 Hays Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner 210-207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department).] RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM R FIVE H A H O V TO I D D ONE H A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS LOCATED AT FOUR 15 HAYES STREET. THERE WERE 34 NOTICES MAILED NINE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR TO RECEIVE IN OPPOSITION AND HILL'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION. STAFF HAS NOT FOUND THE EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND. IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE PROPOSED I D D IS SUITABLE TO THE AREA AND PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS WITH A CONSIDERATION OF THREE RESIDENTIAL DWELLING. THE I D D IS APPROPRIATE TO THE PROPERTY AS IT, IT IS LONG AND NARROW AND COULD BENEFIT FROM THE FLEXIBILITY OF THE ZONING. DISTRICT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WE DO HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER ON THE LINE. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER PLEASE? I HAVE, IN 2005, HAVE DEVELOPED MULTIPLE PROJECTS WITHIN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU, SIR. HEY, CAN YOU STATE YOUR, UH, NAME PLEASE? MY NAME IS JUAN FERNANDEZ. WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME? FERNANDEZ. S E R N A N. THANK YOU. E Z AS A ZEBRA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, SORRY TO INTERRUPT. THANK YOU. NO PROBLEM. UH, SO AS I WAS MENTIONING C B F HOMES IN 2005 HAS, UH, DEVELOPED MULTIPLE PROJECTS IN HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, WE'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMITTED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY TO CERTIFY ALL OUR PROJECTS UNDER THIS STEEL ENERGY READY HOMES. UH, WE ARE A PROUD WINNER OF THE 2019 HOME INNOVATION AWARDS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, ONLY THE SECOND BUILDER TO, UH, ACHIEVE [01:15:01] THIS AWARD IN TEXAS. UH, WE'RE ONE OF THE FOUR PREMIER NEW HOME BUILDERS, UH, REGISTERED WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, THE LAST TIME WE CHECKED, UH, ONLINE ON THEIR WEBPAGE, UH, IN 2016, WE DEVELOPED 4 22 HAY STREET, FOUR HOMES, AND A LOT THAT IS ALMOST IN FRONT OF FOUR 15, UH, HAY STREET. THE, THE CURRENT LOT THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING. UH, WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND, UH, WE DEVELOPED A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECT OF FOUR HOMES WITH A LOT IN THE SIMILAR SIZE OF THE CURRENT LOT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING, AND ALMOST IN FRONT OF IT, UH, THIS PROJECT, BY THE WAY, WON THE SAN ANTONIO SUSTAINABILITY AWARDS IN 2017. UH, IN 2019, WE PURCHASED, UH, IN SEPTEMBER FOUR 15 HAY STREET, UH, WITH A PLAN TO BUILD FOUR HOMES SIMILAR TO THE PROJECT THAT I JUST MENTIONED, 4 22 HAY STREET. HOWEVER, UH, WE MET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY, UH, HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THE DENSITY. SO WE, WE CHANGED THE, THE, THE FIRST DESIGN OF THE PROJECT FROM FOUR UNITS TO THREE UNITS, AND WE WENT, WE MET AGAIN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SHOWING THE THREE UNITS AND, UH, WHICH ACTUALLY COMPLIES WITH THE CURRENT LAND USE OF THE PROPERTY. UM, THE PLAN IS OF COURSE, TO HAVE THE HOUSES WITH A FRONT PORCH FACING THE STREETS TO BLEND WITHIN THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD AND KEEPING THE SETBACKS THE, THE SAME AS THE REST OF THE HOUSES AND THE BLOCK TO KEEP WITH THE, WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AS WELL, WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING, UH, CARDBOARDS THAT WON'T BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, UH, TWO SIDE BY SIDE CARDBOARDS, UH, THE COP I CARPORTS, UH, THAT CAN FIT TWO CARS FOR EACH HOME SO THAT WE DON'T AFFECT ANY OF THE STREET PARKING. SO EVERY HOUSE WILL OF THE THREE, WOULD HAVE A TWO CAR CARPORT SIDE BY SIDE. AND WE, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE NEED TO IMPROVE THE ALLEY, UH, WHICH OF COURSE WOULD BENEFIT THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT AND ALSO OTHER NEIGHBORS. UH, THE CHALLENGE IS THAT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THERE COMES A POINT, UH, THAT IT, IT'S, WE CANNOT DO, UH, THE THREE HOMES. IT IS CHALLENGING TO PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OF THE, OF THE ALLEY. UM, WE HAD THE NINE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE 200, UH, FEET. FEET. AND WE ALSO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY EVEN MENTIONED IT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER FOUR SUPPORT LETTERS FROM NEIGHBORS THAT ARE NOT WITHIN 200, UH, FEET OF THE PROPER. JUST WANTED TO, UH, CLARIFY THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I'M OPEN ON ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS. MAY SIR? YES, PLEASE. PLEASE STAY ON THE LINE. ALRIGHT. UM, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE. YES, WE HAVE SOME LETTERS TO READ. THIS ONE'S FROM DICK HILL NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE REGARDING FOUR 15 K STREET TO ALLOW ZONING FOR FOUR RESIDENTIAL UNITS. MR. JUAN HAS ON THIS PRESENTED HIS CASE TO D H N A MEMBERSHIP. ON NOVEMBER 18TH, 2019, A WRITTEN BALLOT VOTE WAS TAKEN. THE RESULT, EIGHT VOTES TO SUPPORT AND 15 VOTES TO OPPOSE. THE D H N A RECOMMENDS DISAPPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE. ARVIS HOLLAND, PRESIDENT OF DICK WITTY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, MARK WILEY AT FOUR 12 HAY STREET. I'M WRITING TO YOU AS A CONCERNED HOMEOWNER REGARDING THE ABOVE NUMBER CASE AT FOUR 15 HAY STREET, THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM R FIVE TO I E C ONE FOR THREE UNITS. AS A PERMANENT RESIDENT LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I UNDERSTAND THAT D H N A VISION TO INCREASE THE DENSITY AND GROW IN ITY HILL TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES AND IMPROVE EXPANSION OF EXISTING BUSINESSES ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT THIS IS MY CONCERN, ALLOWING MULTIPLE UNITS ON LOTS THAT WERE DESIGNATED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, TEND TO BRING TRANSIENT USERS, NOT INVESTED, NOT VESTED NEIGHBORS. FOR EXAMPLE, ON OUR SHORT BLOCK OF HAY STREET, BETWEEN THE BRIDGE AND MESQUITE, THERE ARE TWO ORIGINAL CITY LOTS, WHICH NOW HOUSE NINE UNITS FOR DWELLINGS. WITH ONLY TWO OF THESE UNITS, HOUSING FULL-TIME, ACTUAL VESTED NEIGHBORS, WE NEED TO TAKE PAUSE AT [01:20:01] PERMANENT RESIDENCE AND WE'LL, WE NEED TO TAKE PAUSE AT PERMANENT RESIDENCE AND WE'LL BE TO ACCEPT SLOWER GROWTH AND EVALUATE HOW WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE. AS VESTED NEIGHBORS ON THIS BLOCK, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE WANT. WE WANT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT REFLECTS THE TRUE ARCHITECTURE OF HISTORIC SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, NOT CONDOS OR URBAN TOWN HOMES, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT ARE ULTIMATELY RENTED OUT AS AIRBNB. THESE NEW PROPOSED DWELLINGS NEED TO BE HELD TO THE SAME HISTORIC STANDARDS AS ANY HOME IMPROVEMENTS, RENOVATIONS, OR NEW BILLS SUBMITTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I OPPOSE THREE UNITS ON THIS LOT AS A COMPROMISE AND HISTORIC PRECEDENT. PRECEDENT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF DIVIDING THE LOT EQUALLY AND BUILDING TWO UNITS, ONE FACING HAY STREET WITH STREET ENTRANCE AND ONE FACING FAIN WAY WITH ENTRANCE OFF THE ALLEY. BOTH DWELLINGS HELD TO THE HISTORIC ACTIVE ARCHITECTURE STANDARDS FOUND THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR LONG-TERM COMFORTABLE GROWTH WITH INCREASED DENSITY AND VESTED HOMEOWNERS. WE HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO SHAPE THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD FORWARD PROGRESSIVELY WHILE MAINTAINING THE CORE VALUES OF A TRUE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE COME TO LIVE AND SET DOWN LONG-TERM ROOTS, BUILD FAMILIES, AND A SENSE OF COMMUNITY. MARK WILEY ADE, TWO SMALL LOTS FOR THREE HOMES. IT WILL BE TWO NOT THE SAFE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO FOUR OF THESE UNITS BY THE DEVELOPER AND IT FEELS SO CROWDED. I FEEL LIKE MY PRIVACY HAS BEEN TAKEN AWAY FROM ME. THAT'S S AT FOUR 18 HAYES MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. WE DO HAVE, GO AHEAD. WE HAVE A, A VOICEMAIL AS WELL. I'M CALLING IN BEHALF CASE NUMBER 0 2 9 8. I AM CALLING FOR MRS. BEATRIZ EZ. UM, SHE'S MY NEIGHBOR. SHE CALLED ME THIS MORNING THAT SHE HAD FALLEN AND HAD NOT MADE THIS TAKEN, GOTTEN THIS CONCERN. HER ADDRESS IS FOUR 18 PAGE, THAT'S BEATRIZ EZ. UM, WE'RE SENDING OVER A PICTURE OF HER FORM AS WELL. UM, SHE, HER COMMENTS ARE, IT, THE LOT IS TOO SMALL FOR THREE HOMES, BUT IT, IT WOULD BE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SAFE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, LAST TIME SHE COMMENTED, SHE LIVES DIRECTLY NEXT TO IT THAT THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IS VERY CROWDED. IT MAKES HER FEEL VERY OVERWHELMED. UM, SHE ALSO HAD CONCERNS THE FACT THAT THESE ARE THE HOUSES ON THE STREET THAT ARE USUALLY RENTED OUT TO STRANGERS ALL THE TIME. UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THIS TYPE OF BOX HOUSING LENDS TO ON OUR BEHALF. UM, FROM FOUR 12 HAYES, WE LIVE DIRECTLY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF HER LOT. IT IS EXTREMELY VIOLATING. IT IS A MASS OF THE FOOTPRINT IS WAY TOO BIG FOR THAT SIZE OF A LOT. IT NEEDS TO STICK TO THE STANDARD. UM, THE, IT, IT NEEDS TO STICK TO, TO THE CITY PLAN OF IF THESE ARE SINGLE FAMILY LOT AND IF WE'RE GOING TO VARY, IF, IF YOU DIVIDE THE LOT OFF, YOU CAN PUT ONE HOUSE IN THE FRONT, ONE HOUSE IN THE BACK WITH THE GARAGES IN THE MIDDLE. PARKING IS AT A PREMIUM. IT WILL GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. THE MASK WOULD NOT BE TOO HUGE, BUT YOU CANNOT TAKE WHAT THE CITY HAS PLANNED FOR ONE HOME PER LIFE AND JUST PUT FOUR HOMES ON IT, OR EVEN THREE HOMES ON IT. THE MAX THAT SHOULD GO ON PEOPLE LOTS IS THEY BUY THEM IN HALF WHERE IT, THEY ARE A DOUBLE LOT AS A ONE HOME PER LOT. THAT IS WHAT THE CITY HAS SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO. AND IT SEEMS THEY'RE GREATLY BURIED. THESE HOMES DO. OVER THE PAST WEEKEND, WE HAVE PUT UP WITH MORE PEOPLE THAT COME IN. ALL OF THESE HOMES ARE TURNING INTO AIRBNBS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE MATH OF AIRBNBS FOR THIS AREA, BUT WE HAVE AIRBNB PEOPLE THAT CAN'T EVEN KEEP THEIR PIMP PULLED UP, LEANING OVER, LOOKING INTO OUR BEDROOM, PLAYING THEIR, THEIR MUSIC. IT, IT IS, IT'S RIDICULOUS. UM, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER SUBJECT, BUT NO, THE LOT IS TOO SMALL FOR THAT SIZE. OKAY. IF THAT IS, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. UH, MR. FERNANDEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? NO, MY MY COMMENT IS, WELL, REGARDLESS IF IT'S ONE, TWO, OR THREE HOMES, UH, IF THEY ARE ABLE TO GET A PERMIT FOR AIRBNB THAT I, I DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER THAT. ALSO, I DON'T THINK IF THE OTHER, IF THE OTHER, UH, PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY AIRBNB, THEN THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO TURN THEM INTO AIRBNB ACCORDING TO THE NEW AIRBNB, [01:25:01] UH, PERMITS WITH THE CITY. SO THAT WOULD BE MY OWN COMMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. IF YOU'LL STAY ON THE LINE JUST IN CASE WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SURE. COMM COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES. MR. HERNANDEZ, WERE YOU ABLE TO MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, UH, WHEN THEY HAD THAT VOTE? YES, I MEET WITH THEM TWICE. THE FIRST TIME, UH, THEIR CONCERN WAS THE DENSITY AND THAT'S WHY WE, UH, REDUCED THE PROJECT FROM FOUR HOMES TO THREE HOMES. THEN I MET AGAIN, UH, TO SHOW THEM THE THREE HOMES AND, UH, THE NEIGHBOR ACTUALLY ONE OF THE ONES THAT WROTE THE LETTER, UH, UH, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT SO THAT THERE WERE TWO STORY HOMES. EVEN THOUGH THE, THE, THE, IN THIS SAME BLOCK, THERE ARE SEVERAL NEW AND OLD HOMES, STORY HOMES THAT ARE TWO STORIES. YEAH. SO, UH, TO ME THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE CONCERN, UH, THAT I WENT, THAT I HEARD THE SECOND TIME THAT I PRESENTED REDUCING THE DENSITY, I MEAN FROM, FROM FOUR TO THREE HOMES. OKAY. AND DID THEY EXPLAIN WHY THEY VOTED NEGATIVELY? YOU KNOW, THE LETTER JUST SAID THAT JUST GAVE THE VOTE. IT DIDN'T GIVE ANY DETAILS AS FAR AS SUGGESTIONS OR WHAT THEY REALLY WANTED? NO, THEY JUST SAID, WELL, THE, THEY DIDN'T AGREE WITH THE THREE MONTHS EITHER, AND THEY SENT THE, THE LETTER. I I I, I FOUND THAT ONE. I DIDN'T, THE SECOND TIME I PRESENTED, I DIDN'T WAIT UNTIL THE, THE FINAL VOTE. SO I, I, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. OKAY. AND THE, THE PREVIOUS PROJECT THAT YOU DID, WAS THIS THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT APPROVED FOR SAME NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? ACTUALLY, UH, WE MET WITH, UH, SOMEBODY WHO WAS THE CHAIR OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, UH, OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND SHE WAS VERY INVOLVED IN THE, IN THE PREVIOUS PROJECT ON 4 22 HAY STREET. WE DID SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE PROJECT ACCORDING TO THEIR REQUEST. SO WE THOUGHT THAT AFTER THEY, THEY HAD APPROVED THIS PROJECT THAT WE WERE GONNA BE PROPOSING A VERY SIMILAR PROJECT, BUT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, SO THAT'S WHY WE PRESENTED THE FOUR HOMES. RIGHT. AND, AND THEY CHANGED. AND ACTUALLY, UH, THIS PERSON THAT I, I DON'T THINK SHE'S IN THE ARCHITECTURAL GROUP, UH, COMMITTEE ANYMORE. I, I'M NOT SURE SHE WAS, UM, OPPOSING TO THE PROJECT EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS ACTIVELY INVOLVED, UH, WITH A PREVIOUS PROJECT. SO I, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND YOU, YOU'RE FINISHED. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. UHHUH. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? SHOW OF HANDS PLEASE. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL STAFF, COULD YOU BRING UP THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE ZONING SURROUNDING THIS APPLICANT'S, UM, SITE? IS THIS MAP GOOD ENOUGH? COULD YOU JUST BLOW IT UP JUST A LITTLE BIT? SURE. BLOW IT UP. ZOOM, ZOOM IN, ZOOM IN. SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I GUESS, I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION TO STAFF IN THAT WE HAVE I Z OBVIOUSLY ACROSS THE STREET AND WE'RE PROPOSING A VERY SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT HERE. UH, IS THERE A POINT AT WHICH TIME STAFF WOULD DEEM THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH I D Z IN A MIX OF WHAT IS TYPICALLY R FIVE OR R SIX LOTS. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? ALRIGHT. YES. SO ZONING IS DISCRETIONARY. WE JUST LOOK AT IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BASIS. THIS AREA HAS, UH, A MIX OF, UH, I GUESS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON MULTIPLE LOTS, ESPECIALLY IN THIS BLOCK. IT HAS A, A VARIATION OF RMM UH, ZONING, WHICH COULD ALLOW MORE THAN ONE UNIT ON EACH LOT. UH, THE ONLY SIGNIFICANCE OF I B D, UH, RELATED TO THE RMM ZONING IS THAT I D D IS ALLOWED TO SUBDIVIDE. SO THAT WAY FUTURE HOMEOWNERS CAN OWN NOT ONLY THE STRUCTURE, BUT THEY CAN ALSO OWN THE DIRT UNDERNEATH THE STRUCTURE. SO THEY WOULD OWN THE LAND IN ENTIRETY OR RMM ARE, ARE YOUR TYPICAL EITHER, UH, CONDO REGIMES OR, UH, ONE OWNER AND THEN HAVING TENANTS IN [01:30:01] THE OTHER UNIT. UH, SO WE JUST LOOK AT IT ON CASE BY CASE BASIS AND DETERMINE IF, UM, ADDITIONAL DENSITY WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THE AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, AND A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES. JUST CONFIRMING WHAT, YES, JUST CONFIRMING WHAT STAFF SAID THAT YOU, UH, PLAN TO SUBDIVIDE THE THREE LOTS AND SELL THOSE INDIVIDUALLY, CORRECT? THAT IS THE PLAN. OKAY. SUBDIVIDE INTO THREE HOMES AND SELL THEM INDIVIDUAL AND THEY WILL ALL HAVE PARKING AT LEAST TWO SPOTS PER HOME, UH, SO THAT WE DON'T AFFECT ANY PARKING ON THE STREET. OKAY. CAN YOU GIMME AN IDEA OF WHAT SIZE THESE UNITS ARE? SQUARE FOOTAGE WE'RE ANYWHERE FROM 1300. THE PREVIOUS PROJECT RIGHT IN FRONT, THE UNITS WERE 1300 SQUARE FEET ON THESE UNITS OF THEIR, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE FOUR, I MEAN THREE INSTEAD OF FOUR WHEN WE'RE PLANNING ON, ON MAKING THEM SLIGHTLY LARGER, MAYBE TOWARDS 14 TO 1500 SQUARE FEET. OKAY. AND, UM, YOU'LL HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING IS THERE. OKAY. I I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY ANSWERED THAT QUESTION ANYWAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SYKE, DO YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS? YES. UM, AND THIS IS EITHER A QUESTION FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT. UM, IT, IT'S A COMPARISON OF THE OVERALL LOT SIZE BETWEEN THE PROPOSED AT FOUR 15 AND THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET AT 4 22. UM, I GUESS THE AGGREGATE OF THOSE FOUR LOTS, UM, IT APPEARS THAT THOSE, THAT 4 22 IN GENERAL IS A LARGER LOT THAN FOUR 15 THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I JUST WANT CONFIRMATION OF THAT AND IF THERE'S A, IF ANYONE KNOWS WHAT THE SIZE DIFFERENCE IS, UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE EXACT TECHNICAL MEASUREMENTS, BUT IT DOES LOOK SLIGHTLY LARGER THAN THIS CURRENT, UH, PROPERTY. IT'S SLIGHTLY LARGER. UM, UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, IT'S 11,000 AND SOMETHING SQUARE FEET AND THIS ONE OR 15, IT'S 10,000 OR VERY CLOSE TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ANTE, YOU STILL HAVE QUESTIONS? UH, I DO NOT. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? OH, COMMISSIONER KATH. UH, UH, THANK YOU. UH, UH, CHAIR, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, SEE, BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING THE THREE HOMES, YOU ARE MENTIONING THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO SPEND SOME MONEY ON, UH, THE ALLEY TO MAKE THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ALI. AND UH, IS THAT TRUE OR CAN YOU DO IT WITH THE TWO HOUSES? UH, THAT THANK YOU. UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT I REFERRED. UH, IF WE DO ONLY TWO HOUSES, IT IS GONNA BE CHALLENGING BECAUSE WE NEED TO IMPROVE, UH, THE ALLEY AND THE COST, UM, TO DILUTE THAT CUP, UH, BETWEEN TWO HOUSES INSTEAD OF THREE. IT'S IT'S WAY TOUGHER TO MAKE THE PROJECT WORK. OKAY. YOU PLAN TO, UH, SPEND A SUFFICIENT CAPITAL TO DO THE ENTIRE, UH, ? YES, AND WE, WE, WE, WE WILL IF WE CAN DO THE THREE HOUSES. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KATH? UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UM, I GUESS I, THIS IS A LITTLE MORE FOR STAFF, SO ALL THREE OF THESE HOUSES WILL BE FACING THIS DRIVEWAY AND NONE WILL BE FACING A STREET IS WHAT? WELL, I GUESS MAYBE AS CAN I DOES ONE OF STREET YEAH. UP, SO ACTUALLY NO. ONE OF THE HOUSES, THE ONE THAT FACES HAY STREET IS GONNA HAVE A FRONT PORCH AND IT'S GONNA FACE HAY STREET AND, AND THE, THE FRONT DOOR'S GONNA FACE HAY STREET SO THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND DIFFERENT COMPLY WITH THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD GUYS LIKE. OKAY. AND THE OTHER HOUSE TOWARDS THE BACK FACING THE ALLEY IS GONNA BE THE SAME BECAUSE THE PLAN IS TO HAVE ALSO A FRONT PORCH FACING THE ALLEY TO CREATE THE COMMUNITY LOOK, UH, OF ANY STREET WITHIN HISTORIC, UH, DISTRICTS. AND THEN THE HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE, UH, WELL OF COURSE THAT ONE WON'T BE FACING ANY OF THE TWO STREETS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. [01:35:01] SO THEN THIS QUESTION IS FOR STAFF, AND I THINK WE HAD BROUGHT THIS CONVERSATION UP BEFORE THAT MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE SOME CODE CHANGES AND I DON'T NEED TO GET AHEAD OF IT, BUT, UM, THERE WAS THAT DISCUSSION THAT THESE HOUSES NEEDED TO HAVE A FRONT FACING WHEN THEY WERE STACKED LIKE THIS. UM, DOES THIS, DOES THIS FEEL COMFORTABLE TO YOU THAT WE'VE GOT THE ONE FACING THE FRONT, BUT THE ONE IN THE CENTER IS FACING NOT, IS IS THAT COMFORTABLE WITH YOU? IT'S SIMILAR TO THE RECENT CODE CHANGES THAT WE MADE RELATED TO THE MS AND THE RM DISTRICT. UH, THOSE, UM, CHANGES THAT WERE DONE LAST YEAR. UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THE, THE, THE FIRST ONE ADJACENT TO THE STREET FACE, THE STREET, SO WE GIVE THAT STREET GATE, THE REMAINING ONES BEHIND THAT ARE ABLE TO FACE THE EGRESS EASEMENT. UH, SO THIS, THIS SITELINE IS SIMILAR TO THE CODE CHANGES THAT WE MADE LAST YEAR FOR THOSE DISTRICTS AS PART OF THE REVIEW FOR I B D A SITE CLAIM IS REQUIRED, UH, WITH THIS MORE DETAIL. UH, SO SHOWING THEM THAT ONE FACES THE STREET AND THE OTHER TWO, UH, DON'T HAVE TO FACE THE STREET WOULD BE WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE ORDINANCE WHEN THEY PULL A BUILDING PERMIT. OKAY. AND THEN THE, UH, ON GOOGLE, IT'S SHOWING ME THAT ACROSS THE STREET IT'S A SIMILAR LOT DESIGN. WAS THAT, IS THAT THE SAME UH, DESIGNER, THE SAME DEVELOPER? I NOT, HE CAN ASK ANSWER THAT. I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE SAME DEVELOPER. OKAY. SO THEN ACROSS THE STREET WHERE WE HAVE THE STACK OF HOUSES SIMILAR TO WHAT HE'S PRESENTING, DO YOU RECALL HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECEIVED THAT PLACE? THAT WAS PROBABLY THE ZONING CHAIN. DO YOU RECALL? I DON'T IN ANY WAY OF HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD RECEIVED THAT AT THAT TIME. I'M JUST TALKING TO STAFF REAL QUICK HERE. UM, SO IF IT, IF THAT PROPERTY, THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WAS THE I D D ONE, IT HAD TO GO THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS, SO IT HAD TO GO THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS, WHICH MEANT THAT, UM, ANY PUBLIC INPUT WOULD'VE BEEN CONSIDERED. AND ULTIMATELY BECAUSE IT'S ZONE I D D, THAT MEANT COUNCIL RE UH, APPROVED THE REZONING TO I D D. BUT DO, UH, DO YOU RECALL, I MEAN, IT'S JUST A RECALL, BUT DO YOU RECALL HOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, FELT ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AT THAT TIME? NO, I DON'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT TYPICALLY IN OUR, UM, REVIEW OF THESE AND IN OUR, UH, EXPERIENCE IS THAT IF THERE WAS MAJOR CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD RELATED TO THAT PROJECT, THOSE CONCERNS WOULD'VE BEEN WORKED OUT BEFORE COUNCIL MADE THEIR MOTION. OKAY, THANK YOU. SO THEN BACK TO THE, CAN I ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WE, WE GOT ACTUALLY A, A SUPPORT LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO CHANGE THAT ZONING ON THE PREVIOUS PROJECT. IS THAT YOUR PROJECT? SO WE HAVE TO SUPPORT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. THAT WAS YOUR PROJECT? YES, WE THAT PROJECT TOO. OKAY. ON, ON THIS PROJECT THEN. SO THE, THE CARS ARE THEN TUCKED UNDER IN BETWEEN THESE HOUSES IN A CARPORT? CORRECT. HOW ABOUT THE CERTAIN HOUSES DON'T SEE THOSE, THOSE DO NOT HAVE GARAGES. UH, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. THE HOUSES AROUND YOU, DO THEY HAVE GARAGES AT ALL? NO. NO. THE HOUSES, UH, THESE HAVE CARPORTS WITHIN THESE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS. MOST OF THE HOUSES HAVE CARPORT. NO HAVE CARPORT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE FIRST. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UM, WHAT IS THE CURRENT STATUS? HAS THERE BEEN ANY APPROACH WITH H D R C, PRELIMINARY APPROVAL, CONCEPTUAL APPROVAL, THINGS OF THAT NATURE? NO. WE HAVEN'T APPROACHED H D R C YET. WE, WE WANTED TO FIRST, UH, GET THE, THE ZONING SO THAT WE CAN START DESIGNING THE PROJECT. SO THERE WILL BE ANOTHER SORT OF LAYER OF REVIEW, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE CONFORM WITH THE HISTORIC GUIDELINES BY THE H D O C. CORRECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT AS AS DESIGNATED. YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF I HEARD A SECOND. IS THERE A SECOND? YES, I'LL SECOND. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. SO, UH, IT MOTION WAS MARKED. SECONDING IT. OKAY. NO, IT WAS GIBBONS. OKAY. LET PATTY HAVE ITS . [01:40:02] THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, SO WE , WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER JONES. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY, UH, COMMENT? SHOW OF HANDS PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. YOU KNOW, I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT. IT'S A VERY, UH, INNOVATIVE IDEA FOR THE SIZE LOT THAT IT IS, AND I GUESS MY COMMENT IN LOOKING WHAT AT WHAT YOU PREVIOUSLY BUILT, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, A LITTLE MORE OF THAT DESIGN OF WHAT'S ON THE STREET IN YOUR DESIGN. UM, THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO THAT ONE IS VERY CRAFTSMAN, VERY CUTE, AND YOU'RE BUILDING TWO STORIES, SO JUST MY LITTLE 2 CENTS WORTH OF ARCHITECTURAL KNOWLEDGE FROM MY DAD DAYS. BUT I JUST THINK THE DESIGN OF THAT STREET FRONT COULD ADD A LITTLE MORE TO WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE HISTORY OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER COMMENT? COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YEAH. UM, I WANT TO SUPPORT THIS, UH, MOTION BECAUSE THE, UH, THE DEVELOPER COMES, UH, UM, STANDS UP AND, UH, IS WILLING TO INVEST IN THE, UH, PUBLIC, UH, THOROUGHFARE OR THE ACT ALLEY, ESPECIALLY IN AN AREA WHERE THE HAY STREET AND HAY BRIDGE AND ALL THE NEW, UH, NEW MILLENNIALS ARE COMING TO STAY. IT IS A WELCOME, A WELCOME INVESTMENT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ANY OTHER COMMENT? OKAY. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. COMMISSIONER LEE HARD. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIDDENS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIRMAN MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ONE. ALRIGHT, NOW ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. [7. 20-3499 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700011 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "O-2 H AHOD" High-Rise Office Olmos Park Terrace Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-1 H AHOD" Light Commercial Olmos Park Terrace Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 95, Block 6, NCB 9012 and Lot 87, Block 5, NCB 9009, located at 5118 San Pedro Avenue and 5230 San Pedro Avenue. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment Case PA2020-11600002) (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM OH TWO H A H O V TO C ONE A H O V LOCATED AT 52 30 AND 51 18 SAN PEDRO AVENUE. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES, MAILS THEN RECEIVED IN FAVOR. TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED P ONE TAKES LIGHT COMMERCIAL USES THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE AREA AND GIVE THEM MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING. THE PROPERTIES BEING REZONED CONSIST OF GRAD HUB, L L C VEHICLE, APPRAISERS AND SERVICES, TAX SERVICES, TAX SERVICE, AND A HAIR AND NAIL SALON. THE APPLICANT SPEAKS THROUGH ZONE TO MAKE THE ZONING DESIGNATION CON CONSISTENT WITH THE USE OF THE PROPERTY. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, HERE. OH, OKAY. YEAH, IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND, UM, SEE YOUR CASE PLEASE. MY NAME IS OSCAR FLORES AT THE 51 18 SAN PEDRO. UH, WE'VE BEEN HERE CLOSE TO 30 YEARS AND WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING THE GRADUATION HUB, UH, FOR 30 YEARS. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WE'RE MAKING IS INSTEAD OF JUST, UH, GOING WITH SCHOOLS IN THE SURROUNDING AREA, WE'LL BE, UH, DOING, OPENING IT UP SO EVERYONE CAN ORDER A CAP AND GOWN AS THEY CHOOSE FROM OUR LOCATION AND NOT JUST AT THE SCHOOL. UH, WE HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING. WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SPACES. WE'VE NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH PARKING IN THE STREETS EVER. UH, SO, AND WE'RE [01:45:01] ONLY OPEN BASICALLY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND SATURDAY FOR TWO HOURS, SO IT HAS NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE FOR US. THANK YOU, MR. FLORES. IF YOU'LL, UM, STAND BY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. I HAVE SOME LETTERS TO READ. GOOD AFTERNOON. AS PRESIDENT OF NORTHMORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE HAVE DISCUSSED THE REFERENCE CASE ABOVE OUR STAND IS THAT WE KEEP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AREA. ES NORTHMORE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. BETTY ECKER, THE ALMOST PARK TERRA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGES FROM OH TWO H AND C ONE H AT 51 18 AND 52 30 SAN PEDRO AVENUE. FOR THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS AND REASONS, STREETS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ARE NARROW AND ANY ADDITIONAL PARKING WOULD IMPEDE TRAFFIC AND CAUSE EMERGENCY VEHICLES SUCH AS SA, THE FD, S A P D, EMERGENCY SERVICE, AND THAT ABILITY TO ENTER OR LEAVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN NECESSARY. THE CURRENT O TWO H OFFICE ZONING HAS BEEN A GOOD ENHANCEMENT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE USE THE SERVICE PROVIDED AND WE ARE PLEASED TO HAVE THESE SERVICES PROVIDED CLOSE BY. WE HOPE THE ZONING CONDITION WILL DENY THIS ZONING CHANGE AND CONSIDER OUR REQUEST ALMOST PART TERRA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BETTY ECKER, JANET VASQUEZ AND BILL . IT MAY CONCERN, I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER AT 2 83 WEST MONTEA DRIVE AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROTEST THE REZONING CASE. WE ARE IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT AND OUR STREETS CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THE IMPACT FROM OVERFLOW PARKING. THIS WILL FEED THE ABILITY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO ACCESS OUR HOUSES AND INCREASE TRAFFIC, MAKING OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD LESS SAFE. PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR MORE ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR STATEMENTS CHRISTINE HAD HAD. BUS WILLIAM RICHARD ICK. TOO MUCH COMMERCIAL ENCROACHING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PARKING ON STREET IS A PROBLEM. OPPOSED? SANTIAGO RODRIGUEZ JR. NEW ZONING JUST RAISES PROPERTY TAXES. I DISAGREE ON NEW ZONING. I WOULD LIKE THE ZONING AND MY ADDRESS TO BE TAKEN AWAY IS COSTING ME TOO MUCH IN PROPERTY TAX. I'VE NEVER BEEN MARRIED AND I HAVE NO KIDS AND I'M PAYING TOO MUCH IN PROPERTY TAX. THAT ONE WAS OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA AREA. WE'RE CHECKING FOR ANY AUDIO COMMENTS. OKAY, WE'RE CLEAR. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, MR. FLORES, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? WELL, UH, MY RESPONSE IS WE'VE NEVER PARKED ON THE STREET. UM, AMANDA MARIOSA IS A BLOCK AWAY AND IF THEY'RE HAVING ISSUES WITH SOMEBODY ELSE, I DON'T KNOW. UH, WE'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST 30 YEARS AND NEVER HAD AN ISSUE OR A PROBLEM EVER. POLICE HAVE NEVER BEEN CALLED FOR PARKING OR ANYTHING ELSE. UM, WE'RE JUST UPDATING OUR ZONING. WE COULD GO HIGHRISE ON THIS THING. WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AT ONE TIME AND, AND DOING A HIGHRISE KIND OF AN OFFICE TOWER SINCE WE OWN THE BUILDING ACROSS, WE COULD MAKE THAT PARKING AND THIS THE HIGHRISE, BUT WE JUST WANTED TO KEEP IT SIMPLE AND THE C ONE WORKS FOR US AND BRINGING IN, UH, MORE KIND OF A RETAIL BUT NOT A, NOT A SUPER RETAIL, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'D HAVE CUSTOMERS CONTINUOUS ALL DAY EVERY DAY. WE RESPECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE'VE BEEN A PART OF IT, LIKE I SAID, FOR 30 YEARS. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU MR. FLORES. UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL IN, UH, PLACE OF, UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF. IT, THIS DESIGNATION SEEMS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF CHARACTER EVEN GIVEN THE COMMERCIAL USES UP AND DOWN SAN PEDRO AT THIS TIME. UM, BUT REFRESH MY MEMORY, UH, WITH OH TWO, WHAT IS THE LIMIT ON NUMBER OF STORIES SIZE OF BUILDING, WHAT HAVE YOU? SO OH TWO IS ACTUALLY UNLIMITED HEIGHT. OH TWO IS A RESULT OF THE OLD CODE CONVERSION FROM OH, THE OLD OH ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE A HIGH LIMITATION. AND SO, UM, HE CONVERTED TO O TWO IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THAT AND NOT CREATE NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES, UH, BY CONVERTING IT TO OH ONE. SO O TWO IS A VERY INTENSE DISTRICT, SO IT, IT, IT NEEDS TO BE DOWN ZONE FOR THESE SMALLER LOTS [01:50:01] ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. OKAY. UM, SO THAT WOULD MEAN SOMEBODY COULD COME IN AND TEAR DOWN THIS BUILDING AND BUILD A 10 STORY BUILDING IF THEY WANTED TO, GIVEN THE LOT SIZE OF IT WOULD SUPPORT IT. I, I WOULD SAY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY, UM, H C R C BECAUSE IT IS OWN HISTORIC AND SO THEY WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE THAT DETERMINATION OR PROVIDE INPUT AND A RECOMMENDATION ON THE, UH, LOUD HEIGHT. OKAY. UM, AND ON C ONE, WHAT IS THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION? C ONE IS, I BELIEVE IT'S 15 ON C ONE. IT IS 25 FEET. 25 FEET. AND WHAT ARE SOME USES, UH, IN C ONE BESIDES WHAT THE APPLICANTS IS PROPOSING? C ONE IS, UH, BASIC RE LIKE RETAIL LIKE SERVICE. UM, SO YOU'LL HAVE RESTAURANTS, UM, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, OFFICES, YOU'LL HAVE, UH, A MIX OF USES THAT THEY ARE LIKE COMMERCIAL. UM, O TWO IS ALLOWED THE SAME TYPE OF USES. IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE AN OFFICE AS THE MAJORITY AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE ACCESSORY USES RETAIL AND WHATNOT AS PART OF THAT TOO. O TWO. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU. AND QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. WHAT ARE THOSE HOURS? WE'RE? WE'RE OPEN ONE TO FIVE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, AND THEN SATURDAY 10 TO 12 BECAUSE WE STILL DO THE MAJORITY OF OUR BUSINESS IN THE SCHOOLHOUSE IS IN UNIVERSITY, SO WE'RE NOT EVEN OPEN THAT MUCH IF YOU GET RIGHT DOWN TO IT. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THANK YOU. UM, AM I JUST SEEING THIS WRONG? THE MAP THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN LOOKS LIKE IT SAYS C TWO, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE IS C ONE. THAT'S AN, UH, AERIAL MAP. I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE GREEN MAP THAT HAS THE C ONE. THAT'S THE INITIAL MAP THAT SAYS IN THE AGENDA. OKAY. AND COULD YOU PUT THE LETTER FOR MS. ECKERT ON THE SCREEN AGAIN? SURE. I WANTED TO SEE THE SIGN, THE, THE NAMES, OTHER NAMES OF THE PEOPLE SIGN THAT LETTER. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UH, THIS IS FOR THE OWNER. APPROXIMATELY HOW MUCH SQUARE FOOTAGE IS YOUR SHOPPING, UH, AT AT, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE, EXCUSE ME NOW FORGETTING THE ADDRESS. THE, THE 18 51 80? YEAH. 51 18. YEAH. WANT TO SAY ABOUT 1200 QUI? IT'S NOT HUGE. OKAY. NOW A QUESTION FOR STAFF, IF I'M READING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS RIGHT, THAT WOULD MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE HE WOULD PROBABLY AS A RETAIL STORE HAVE TO HAVE ABOUT FOUR PARKING SPOTS. IS THAT FAIR? UM, IT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. YES. BASED ON THE RETAIL, AGAIN, PARKING IS DETERMINED BY USE AND SO, UM, BY, FOR EACH C O THEY'LL DETERMINE THAT PARKING. ALRIGHT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, JUST LOOKING AT SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PICTURES THAT WERE UP THERE, THERE LOOKS TO BE AT LEAST THAT AMOUNT OF PARKING ON EACH SIDE OF THE STORE AS IT EXISTS. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, UM, WHILE I UNDERSTAND I GUESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THAT AREA, UM, I, I ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THIS IS ACTUALLY A DOWN ZONING OF THE PROPERTY. UH, AND NOTWITHSTANDING THAT, UM, I THINK I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, AND RECOMMEND, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS MOTION OF ITEM SEVEN. WE HAVE. GO AHEAD. FORGIVE THAT CHAIR. UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. I SECOND THE MOTION. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. ANY DISCUSSION? [01:55:05] CNN ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. MOTION FOR APPROVAL. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER THA? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE A COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER PSYCH? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, CHAIRMAN, HE, YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER NINE [9. 20-3375 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700024 CD (Council District 6): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-6 CD MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for four (4) dwelling units on the south 101.6 feet of Lot 22, Block 17, NCB 8991, located at 1027 Southwest 39th Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner 210-207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department).] IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. IT'S LOCATED AT 10 27 SOUTHWEST 39TH STREET. THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, DONE. RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM LOS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE CURRENT R SIX IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED R SIXT MAINTAINS THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND IS AN APPROPRIATE VOTING FOR THE PROPERTY AS IT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OTHER R SIX PROPERTIES. THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS CONSIDERATION FOR TWO DUPLEX HOMES ON THE PROPERTY FOR A TOTAL OF FOUR DWELLING UNITS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? MR. MRS. CARLOS . UM, MR. MRS, MAKE SURE TO, UH, MUTE WHATEVER YOU WERE LISTENING TO, UM, AND THEN SPEAK INTO THE PHONE. MAKE SURE YOUR LINE'S NOT MUTED. ARE YOU THERE, MR. OR MRS. FLORES? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ON THE LINE, BUT IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOUR LINE PLEASE. DO WE HAVE ANOTHER PHONE NUMBER FOR THEM SINCE THERE'S TWO PEOPLE? YES, MS. FAR. GO AHEAD. UM, ON THE, WE CAN HEAR HER NOW. YES. THE BACKGROUND NOISE ON, MAKE SURE THAT ANY BACKGROUND, UH, COMPUTER OR, UH, MONITOR IS, IS OFF AND JUST SPEAKING TO THE PHONE. OKAY. HEY, I HAVE MY COMPUTER ON MUTE. THERE YOU GO. NOW YOU'RE GOOD. THANK YOU. SO THE COMMISSION ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, PLEASE? UH, YES. UM, UH, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME'S URSULA FLORES. I AM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF 10 27, UM, UH, 39TH STREET. AND, UM, UH, AT 10 27 30 NINTH STREET. I APOLOGIZE. AND, UM, UH, FOR THE MOST PART, OUR ULTIMATE GOAL TO GIVE BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE ARE THINKING OF, UH, IF POSSIBLE TO BE APPROVED FOR A TWO DUPLEX SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UM, WE ARE, UM, CURRENT RESIDENCE OF 25 YEARS AND I, AND, UM, THIS IS, UH, PRETTY MUCH OUR REQUEST AND OUR CASE NUMBER IS, UM, DAY 20 21 0 7 0 0 2 4. THANK YOU, MS. FLORES, IF YOU'LL STAY ON THE LINE. YES, OF COURSE. OKAY. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE ONE LIVE CALL. THANK YOU. [02:00:05] HELLO, I ON THE LINE AS A REMINDER, YOU, UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. OKAY. UH, MY NAME IS, UH, ROBERT. I, UH, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, ASSOCIATION, THE REQUEST FOR, UH, SO THAT CAME IN FIRST. UH, AT FIRST WE NO REASON WHY WE COULDN'T APPROVE IT. THEN, UH, LATER ON THEY HAD ANOTHER, UH, SO WE R SIX CD ML ZERO D TWO, AND THAT CAN, A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE TRY TO GET THE, UH, OF IT AND WE, SO, UH, WE WOULD LIKE THIS KIND OF A, A, A HOUSING THING. BUT, UH, RECENTLY WE HAVE RECEIVED, UH, PHOTOGRAPHS OF, UH, THAT PROPERTY BEING USED AS A, AS A BUSINESS. AND, UH, WHEN WE INTERVIEW THE PEOPLE, UH, THEY DIDN'T MENTION THAT. SO, UH, FOR THAT REASON, WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, UH, OF THIS, UH, REQUEST. I, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE SUBMITTED ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND IT WAS APPROVED AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THE QUESTIONS, UH, FOR COMING UP AND WE'LL HAVE A DEMO MEETING, UH, VERY SOON. UH, WE HAVE MEETING DUE TO THE PANDEMIC, SO THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT. UH, WE HAVE, UH, A CONTINUATION. CONTINUATION AND IT'LL EVERYTHING CHRIS. SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY . THANK YOU, SIR. WE MAY HOLD JUST ONE MOMENT. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER COMMISSIONER IF WE, YEAH. UH, SO, UH, MR. DEON, WHAT GAVE YOU THE IMPRESSION THAT, UH, THIS WAS GOING BE USED FOR COMMERCIAL? BECAUSE IN THE APPLICATION, I, I DON'T SEE ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S ANY DISCUSSIONS OF COMMERCIAL USE. THAT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO IS, UH, PUT AND WE WANNA, UH, FIND OUT IF, UH, THEY HAVE ANY COMPLIANCE VIOLATIONS AND THAT'S WHY WE ASKING FOR THE CONTINUATION. UH, THESE ARE THE KIND OF, UH, STRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT WE ALSO, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, UH, RESTRICT THE, THE, THE COMMUNITY AND, UH, DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK, UH, AS SOON AS AND WE CAN GIVE THEM THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED. OKAY. QUESTIONS. UM, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HU. ANYBODY ELSE WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER? OKAY, THANK YOU SIR. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE, UH, THE CITIZEN INPUT WE HAVE. THANK YOU. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND, MS. FLORES? MS. FLORES, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. OKAY. YES. UH, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WE ARE NOT RUNNING A BUSINESS CENTER THERE. UM, THERE IS AN EXISTING HOME THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, NEEDS QUITE A BIT OF RENOVATION PERHAPS WE'RE THINKING OF, UM, DEMOLISHING AND BUILDING LATER ON, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE AS MUCH IMPROVEMENTS AS WE CAN TO HELP OUT OUR COMMUNITY AND, UM, TO KIND OF LIKE, JUST, JUST HAS THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT AND MAKE OUR, OUR COMMUNITY LOOK NICE. BUT RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN EXISTING HOME THERE. THANK YOU MISS. WE'RE CERTAINLY WORKING ON, AND, UH, OUR, UH, THERE IS A TEMPORARY, WE DO HAVE CERTAIN, CERTAIN STORAGE IN THERE, LUMBER AND SO FORTH AND SO ON, BUT THAT'S NOT FOR ANY TYPE OF BUSINESS AT ALL. THAT'S [02:05:01] JUST HALF, BUT THAT EVENTUALLY IS GONNA BE CLEARED OUT. OKAY. THANK YOU. MS. FLORES, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SURE. COMMISSIONER LEE? YES. UH, MS. FLORES, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO MR. DELI MENTIONED HIS CONCERN WAS THAT, UH, YOU WOULD TURN THIS PROPERTY INTO COMMERCIAL, UM, USE, I DON'T SEE WHERE IN YOUR APPLICATION THAT YOU PLAN TO DO THAT. UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS TO TURN THIS INTO A, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. OUR ULTIMATE GOAL, OUR ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO IS, IS TO BUILD A, UM, DUPLEX TO DUPLEXES FOR, UM, WHICH ARE GONNA BE LIKE WHAT, 900 SQUARE FOOT EACH AND NO, ABSOLUTELY NO BUSINESS. NONE WHATSOEVER. WE DIDN'T APPLY FOR THAT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT OF OUR INTENTIONS. OUR PROPOSED IS JUST TWO DISRUPTIVE ON, ON THE PROPERTY TO TRY TO, UH, GET BACK TO OUR COMMUNITIES IN TERMS OF, UM, REASONABLE, UH, HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. OKAY. BECAUSE THE EMAIL I GOT FROM OUR DISTRICT OFFICE WAS THAT YOU HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, LOS HARDING'S, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING, SO, OKAY. YES. BUT THAT WAS BEFORE THEY THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TURN THIS INTO A COMMERCIAL, UH, PROPERTY. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. NO WAY. THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT OF OUR INTENTIONS AT ALL. RIGHT. OKAY. I APOLOGIZE IF YOU DIDN'T SEE, FELT THAT WAY, BUT CERTAINLY NOT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAVE. UM, THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTIONS AT ALL. OKAY. UH, A QUESTION FOR STAFF, PLEASE. OKAY, SO JUST TO VERIFY, RIGHT, SO IF THE, UH, REQUESTED ZONING GOING TO R SIX, UH, CD WAS APPROVED MM-HMM. , WOULD THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK A REZONING IF THEY CHANGE, UH, TO, UH, COMMERCIAL USE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. ONLY THE ONLY USE IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT. WOULD BE THOSE IN R SIX. MM-HMM. , UH, WHICH IS FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONE DISTRICT, AND, UH, THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE FOUR ADDITIONAL FOR THE FOUR DWELL. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CO CONFIRMING THAT. I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN UP TO THE ARRESTING COMMISSIONERS TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, UH, NO QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER LEE. OKAY. AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, UH, ZONING REQUEST. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER LEE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY DISCUSSION, COMMENTS? CNN ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. I HAVE MOTION TO APPROVE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WAIT. PARDON? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBON? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIDE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. GREAT. ALRIGHT, NOW'S A GREAT TIME FOR BREAK. IT IS CURRENTLY 3 0 1. UM, LET'S TAKE, UH, FIVE MINUTES. COMING BACK UP 3 0 6 AND IF YOU COULD PLEASE MUTE YOUR CAMERAS AND YOUR MICROPHONES FOR THE REMAINDER OF BREAK. UH, SORRY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE GET, WE GO LIVE FIRST AND I GET THE THUMBS UP AND THEN YOU CAN FOLLOW IT INTO ORDER. OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. GO AHEAD. OKAY. IT'S CURRENTLY 3 0 8 AND WE ARE CALLING THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETING BACK INTO ORDER. [11. 20-3496 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700054 (Council District 9): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3 AHOD" General Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District and "I-1 AHOD" General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MF-33 AHOD" Multi-family Airport Hazard Overlay District on 1.974 acres out of NCB 12694, located in the 12000 block of San Pedro Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] ALL RIGHT, WE ARE ON ITEM NUMBER 11. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST TO READ THEM FROM P THREE A H O V AND I ONE A H O TO MF 33 A H O V LOCATED IN THE 12,000 BLOCK OF SAN PEDRO AVENUE. THERE WERE ANY NOTICE, I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, THIS IS HER CASE, RIGHT? IT'S UM, YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, PRESENT. HER CAMERA'S STILL MUTED. I DON'T KNOW HOW [02:10:01] WE OKAY. SHE IS? YES. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I'LL START THIS ONE OVER AGAIN. WE'RE ON ITEM NUMBER 11. A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE A H O D TO I ONE, EXCUSE ME. FROM C THREE A H O D AND I ONE A H O D TO M MS 33 A H O D. IN THE 12,000 BLOCKS OF SAN SAN PEDRO AVENUE, THERE WERE NINE NOTICES. MALES ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE NOT POSITION. THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA, WE RECEIVE THREE IN FAVOR AND SEVEN OPPOSED. THE CURRENT C THREE AND I ONE ZONINGS ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED M MS 33 IS ALSO APPROPRIATE ZONING, WHICH COULD VEHICULAR ACCESS AND PROXIMITY TO RETAIL UNEMPLOYMENT. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? WE DO. OKAY. WE DO. OH, YES, I GO AHEAD. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION. JEFF RE OF VICTORY ASSOCIATES ADDRESS OF 12 9 4 0 COUNTRY PARKWAY, SAN ANTONIO 7 8 2 1 6. I AM THE DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE, REPRESENTATIVE FOR ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES AND O C I GROUP. SLIDE TWO, PLEASE. WE ARE HERE TO REQUEST A REZONING TO MULTIFAMILY 33 FOR A TWO ACRE TRACK LOCATED AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF US HIGHWAY 2 81 AND INTER PARK ROBOT. THE CURRENT ZONING IS I ONE INDUSTRIAL AND C THREE BIG BOX COMMERCIAL WITH A REQUEST TO AMEND TO MF 33.3. THIS IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES, A FOURTH GENERATION FAMILY OWNED COMPANY WITH OVER 36,000 UNITS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND A HISTORY THAT THEY GOT THE LATE 18 HUNDREDS AND O C I GREW A SAN ANTONIO BASED COMPANY THAT HAS DEMONSTRATED FOR OVER A DECADE THAT DOING BUSINESS FOR THE SOCIAL GOOD NOT ONLY IMPROVES LIVES, IT ENHANCES ENTIRE COMMUNITIES. SLIDE FOUR. HERE'S A LIST OF SIMILAR DEVELOPMENTS COMPLETED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO METRO AREA BY THE DEVELOPER. THE COMPLETED DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDE LAUREL GLEN, WHICH IS ALONG LOOP 1604, NEAR BANDERA ROAD, VISTA POINT AT WILD PINE, WHICH IS IN THE ANIMAL RANCH AREA. THE ARBOR AT CENTER BROOK, WHICH IS NEAR I 35 AND LOOP 1604 ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE AND THE BRISTOL OFF OF OLD TO ROAD IN NORTHWEST SAN ANTONIO. SLIDE FIVE. THIS IS LAUREL GWIN, WHICH WAS CONSTRUCTED BY THE DEVELOPER ALONG 1604 NEAR BANDERA ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS A VERY HIGH QUALITY DESIGN. THIS COMMUNITY UTILIZED THE SAME FINANCING STRUCTURE AS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH ENABLED THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE TO THE LOCAL WORKFORCE. THE PROPERTY IS HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL AND CURRENTLY HAS A WAITING LIST. SLIDE SIX. THE PROPERTY IS PART OF THE INNER PARK BUSINESS PARK CREATED IN 1991. AFTER NEARLY 30 YEARS, ABOUT HALF OF THE BUSINESS PARK REMAINS UNDEVELOPED. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT VISTA INNER PARK WILL CONSIST OF 36 1 BEDROOMS, 24 2 BEDROOMS, AND FOUR OR THREE BEDROOM. THE COMMUNITY WILL BE FULLY A E A ACCESSIBLE WILL INCLUDE 97 SURFACE PARKING SPACES AND WILL HAVE OVER 2,400 SQUARE FEET OF COMMON SPACE AMENITIES TO INCLUDE A PLAYGROUND BUSINESS CENTER AND A FITNESS CENTER. SLIDE SEVEN. THIS IS NOT PROJECT BASED SECTION EIGHT HOUSING. THE DEVELOPER WILL BE LEVERAGING HOUSING TAX CREDITS FROM THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND THE COMMUNITY AFFAIRS. THE TAX CREDITS WILL BE CONVEYED TO A LARGE COMMERCIAL BANK WHO WILL IN TURN INVEST SUBSTANTIAL EQUITY INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AS AN EQUITY PARTNER. THE EQUITY INVESTMENT ENABLES THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD A HIGH QUALITY [02:15:01] RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY WITH LESS DEBT, WHICH THEN ALLOWS THEM TO PASS ON THE SAVINGS TO ESSENTIAL MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL WORKFORCE VIA LOWER RENT, INCLUDING GROCERY STORE CLERKS STAFF AT SOME OF YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANTS, POST OFFICE EMPLOYEES, SENIOR CAREGIVERS THAT TAKE CARE OF OUR LOVED ONES, CHILD SUPPORT OFFICERS AND STAFF MEMBERS WORKING AT OUR LOCAL HOSPITAL. SLIDE EIGHT. HERE'S AN AERIAL IMAGE WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED. THE PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGE ON US HIGHWAY 2 81 TO THE EAST INTER PARK BOULEVARD TO THE NORTH WITH THE FORMER SAND CLUB TRACK. BEYOND TO THE SOUTH IS SHEAR HILL BAPTIST CHURCH WITH THEIR PARKING LOT TO THE WEST. FURTHER TO THE WEST IS THE BEAR COUNTY JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OFFICE. SLIDE NINE HERE. HERE'S A CLOSEUP SHOWING THE VACANT LOT. SLIDE 10 AND HERE IS SOME RECENT PHOTOS ON THE GROUND. THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN CONSISTENT, CONSISTENTLY USED BY HOMELESS AS AN ENCAMPMENT. YOU LOOK CLOSER, YOU CAN SEE THE CHURCH IN THE BACKGROUND AND THEIR FENCE. SLIDE 11. HERE'S THE LAND USE PLAN. WE ARE ASKING TO AMEND THE LAND USE OF BUSINESS PARK WAS BASED UPON THE 1991 PLAN. THE SUBJECT TRACK IS ISOLATED FROM THE REMAINDER OF THE BUSINESS PARK BY SHEERAN HILL BAPTIST CHURCH AND THE BEXAR COUNTY JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OFFICE. SLIDE 12. HERE'S THE CURRENT ZONING WITH THE TRACK DIAGONALLY DIVIDED BETWEEN COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL. THE CHURCH BUILDING IS LOCATED ON THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND THE PARKING LOT IS DIVIDED BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL AND R FIVE ZONING. THE BEAR COUNTY JUSTICE OF THE PEACE OFFICE IS ZONED INDUSTRIAL. SLIDE 13, WE'VE HEARD COMMENTS THAT THE PROJECT IS WITHIN THE NOISE, CONTOURS, FLIGHT, PAST OR HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. THE AIRPORT, HERE'S THE 2019 AIRPORT MAP, THE BLUE ARROW POINTS TO THE SITE, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF ALL OF THESE ISSUES, I THINK WE HAVE SHOWN OUR REQUEST IS HARMONIOUS TO THE USES AROUND US AND THAT WE ARE PROPOSING A SUBSTANTIAL UPGRADE THAT REPLACES AN EXISTING HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT WITH A HIGH QUALITY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY FOR ESSENTIAL MEMBERS OF OUR LOCAL WORKFORCE. I HAVE WITH ME ON THE PHONE TWO ADDITIONAL REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ASSIST IN ANSWERING QUESTIONS THAT I'M ASKING THAT THEY INTRODUCE THEMSELVES NOW TO HAVE THEIR NAMES AND ADDRESSES ON THE RECORD. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS DAN WILSON. I'M WITH ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES. OUR ADDRESS IS 1 6 1 NORTHWEST SIXTH STREET IN MIAMI, FLORIDA. GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS OSO PARTNER IN O C I GROUP AND OUR ADDRESS IS ONE 18 BROADWAY, SUITE THREE 17, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 5. THANK YOU. AND THAT, UH, CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE A LIVE CALLER COMING ON THE LINE NOW AND THEN THERE'LL BE SOME LETTERS TO READ AFTER THAT. OKAY. I HAVE JOHN LIFTER ON THE LINE. AS A REMINDER, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD PLEASE. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS OF THE ZONING BOARD. MY NAME IS JOHN , I LIVE AT ONE FOUR. I'M APPLICANT REQUEST. UM, CHURCH, UM, THE NEIGHBORS IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY THOROUGHLY ANSWERED OUR QUESTIONS. THEY PATIENTLY ANSWERED OUR QUESTIONS AND BY THE TIME WE LEFT THE MEETING, NOT ONLY WAS I NOT HEARING ANY OPPOSITION TO THIS PROJECT, BUT THERE WAS GENUINE EXCITEMENT ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF OUR CHURCH IN THIS COMMUNITY HAVING, AS I MENTIONED, A TEACHER BIBLE STUDY CLASS. AND [02:20:01] ON NEXT FOLLOWING SUNDAY, THIS WAS BEFORE CORONAVIRUS RECOVERING IN PERSON. WE DISCUSSED THIS AS A BIBLE STUDY CLASS AND AGAIN, NOT ONLY DID NO ONE VOICE OPPOSITION, BUT THERE WAS JUST GENUINE EXCITEMENT IN OUR CHURCH ABOUT THESE POTENTIAL NEWSPAPERS. UM, THE EXISTENCE OF OUR CHURCH. THAT PROPERTY HAS REMAINED VACANT. UM, IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE UNUSED FOR SEVERAL DECADES AS YOU JUST SAW, SLIDE TO MAKE IT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A HOMELESS COMMUNITY THAT RESIDES THERE. AND SO NOW, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PRESENTED, YOU WERE PRESENTED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THAT SPOT. THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO TEACH OUR KIDS. THEY PICK UP OUR GARBAGE. THEY SERVE US THREE D RESTAURANTS. THEY TELL US ON OUR PHONES AT THE AT T STORE, OUR MATTRESSES, THE STORES THAT ARE LITERALLY ONE BLOCK OVER, UH, IN THAT BUSINESS COMMUNITY. AND NOW WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PROVIDE BEAUTIFUL QUALITY HOUSING SO THAT THEY CAN LIVE RIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY WORK. AND ALL IT TAKES IS A CHANGING OF A ZONING DESIGNATION FROM YOU GUYS ON THIS VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY. SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR HELP AND I'M ASKING THAT YOU VOTE IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THIS ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. LET ME SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? I GOT THAT. SORRY. I AM LOOKING FOR MY MICROPHONE. JUST A REALLY QUICK QUESTION. UM, BECAUSE I, I DID KNOW THAT THIS, THAT MEETING HAD TAKEN PLACE WITH YOUR CHURCH. UM, NOW YOUR, THE CHURCH DOES HAVE, UM, HOMELESS SHOWERS, THE MOBILE SHOWERS THAT YOU, YOU ALL PROVIDE ON WEDNESDAYS? THAT'S CORRECT. YES, WE DO. WE HAVE MINISTRY OPENS UP INSIDE THE HOMELESS TO COME IN AND SHOWER THERE. OKAY. AND IS THAT, WOULD THAT MAYBE BE THE REASON WHY YOU'VE GOT A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT NEXT DOOR TO THE CHURCH? NO, ACTUALLY THE EXACT OPPOSITE. THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT EXISTED FIRST AND THEN WE STARTED DOING MINISTRY TO BECAUSE THEY WERE NEXT DOOR TO AND SO THEY STILL LIVE THERE ON SITE? NO, I BELIEVE THAT THAT OF THE POTENTIAL OF THIS PROPERTY AND THEY RELOCATED OFF SITE AND WE STILL ARE PROVIDING SHOWERS, BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW DAY I HAVEN'T GOTTEN LOOK, AS FAR AS I KNOW THEY RELOCATED OFF SITE BECAUSE THEY WERE . YEAH, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANY SIGHT OF THEM AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLER? OKAY, THANK YOU SIR. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR INPUT. ALRIGHT, I HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS. UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH LYDIA AND DAVID GONZALEZ AT 1 4 0 2 2 STAGE BLUFF. THE PURPOSE OF THIS LETTER IS TO INFORM YOU THAT WE SUPPORT THE APPLICATION FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING TO MF 33 FOR THE PURPOSE OF MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY VISTA AT INNER PARK TO BE LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE CORNER OF INTER PARK BOULEVARD IN SAN PEDRO AVENUE. AS A RESIDENT OF YOU CAMINO AL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER FIVE YEARS, IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME THAT WE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS DEVELOPMENT AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. THE DEVELOPER HAS MET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND PRESENTS TO A DESIGN THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THOSE IN NEED. WE CONSIDER THE VISTA AT INNER PARK AN ASSET TO OUR COMMUNITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO WELCOMING OUR NEW NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION, LYDIA AND DAVID GONZALEZ. MY NAME IS CATHERINE DELANEY, 2 47. PATRICIA, I AM OPPOSED TO ANY ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD ALLOW THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IN THIS AREA. THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE. THEY WOULD INVOLVE 2 81, THE ACCESS FROM BITTER SOUTH WORTH, BUCK PARKWAY, WEST AVENUE AND INNER PARK. WHAT SCHOOLS WOULD BE INVOLVED? CAN THEY ABSORB THAT MANY CHILDREN? YOU WOULD ADD SCHOOL BUSES TO THE TRAFFIC PROBLEM. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHICH SCHOOLS WOULD BE EXPECTED TO ABSORB THIS INFLUX OF CHILDREN AND THE STATISTICS OF THEIR CURRENT ENROLLMENT. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE AREA OF SAN ANTONIO HAS MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING PER SQUARE MILE THAN ANY OTHER AREA OF THE CITY. I VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE A REZONING CHANGE FOR THESE REASONS. CATHERINE DELANEY, MIKE BENNETT, THE ARC OF SAN ANTONIO 1 3 4 3 0 WEST AVENUE. THE ARC OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDER OF SERVICES TO THE SPECIAL NEEDS INTELLECTUALLY AND DEVELOPMENTALLY DISABLED COMMUNITY IS IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT [02:25:02] AND ZONING VARIANCE. WE SEE THE ADDITION OF REASONABLY PRICED AND LOCATED HOUSING TO BE OF VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN PARTICULAR, BOTH FOR THOSE WE SERVE AND FOR THOSE WHO THROUGH US SERVE THEM. THANK YOU. MIKE BENNETT, PRESIDENCY OF C E O OF ARC, SAN ANTONIO, MARCO AND FRANCIS BARROWS AT 1 4 0 1 8 SAGE BLUFF. THE PURPOSE OF THIS LETTER IS TO INFORM YOU THAT WE SUPPORT THE APPLICATION FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO MS 33 FOR THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY COMMUNITY. THIS SAID INNER PARK TO BE LOCATED SOUTHWEST FOR THE CORNER OF INNER PARK BOULEVARD IN SAN PEDRO. AS A RESIDENT OF LEFT VIEW CAMINO REAL NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER 20 YEARS. IT IS IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE SUPPORT OUR COMMUNITY AND ITS DEVELOPMENT AS OUR CITY CONTINUES TO GROW. THE DEVELOPER HAS MET WITH THE COMMUNITY AND PRESENTED A DESIGN THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING QUALITY AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO THOSE IN NEED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. MARCO AND FRANCIS BARRO, BOB BARN BARNABY AT 1 1 9 0 6 WARFIELD. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AT 1 2 6 1 5 SAN PEDRO. OUR CONCERNS ARE FOR THE PROPERTY VALUES AND INCREASED TRAFFIC THAT HAS ALREADY EXPLODED WITH THE WORD SPOT. PARKWAY TURNAROUND AT ADDITION NORTH NORTH LOOP ROAD IS USED FOR A TURNAROUND FROM 2 81 NORTHBOUND TRAFFIC TO CUT THROUGH AND HIT WESTBOUND ON WARDBACK PARKWAY. THE REZONING WOULD INCREASE TRAFFIC IN OUR AREA AND DEVALUE OUR PROPERTY. OUR AREA HAS ALWAYS BEEN DONE FOR BUSINESS COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL USE. PLEASE REJECT THE ZONING CHANGE. THANKS BOB BARNABY, PATRICK VON DOEN AND ANNETTE BREWSTER AT 1 9 4 1 CREEK MOUNTAIN STREET AND PATRICK VAN DOEN AT 45 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10 AS WELL AS. OKAY, THOSE TWO. SO MR. DOEN AND MS. BREWSTER SINCE THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE, I WAS REVIEWING THIS FILING BY A FLORIDA BASED DEVELOPER THAT IS PLANNING A HIGH DENSITY, LOW INCOME HOUSE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROJECT AT INTER PARK AND HIGHWAY 2 81 FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING TO HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION ON JUNE 2ND. I'M WRITING TO YOU TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THIS CHANGE IN ZONING AS IT WOULD BE INAPPROPRIATE. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A MULTIFAMILY LOW INCOME, LOW INCOME HOUSING LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF INNER PARK AND HIGHWAY 21 JUST NORTH OF SHE HILLS BAPTIST CHURCH. WHILE HAVING GOOD HOUSING FOR FAMILIES IN NEED AND I AND TO HAVE FAMILIES LOCATED NEXT TO A CHURCH CAN BE A VERY GOOD THING. THERE ARE MULTIPLE PROBLEMS WITH THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AND SITE PLAN AT 1 2 6 1 5 SAN PEDRO. THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS ARE ONE, THIS IS A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PARK AREA AND THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES IN THIS AREA AND THE MULTIFAMILY IS INAPPROPRIATE. NUMBER TWO, THERE'S A SMALL APARTMENT COMPLEX WE'LL HAVE NO SUPPORT FOR LOW INCOME AS IT IS NOT CLOSE TO ANY GROCERY OR CONVENIENCE STORE, SCHOOLS, MEDICAL CLINICS, WHICH ARE ALL SUPPORT SYSTEMS THAT ALL PEOPLE ESSENTIALLY THOSE OF LOW INCOME HAVE NEED OF CLOSE IN PROXIMITY. THREE, THIS AREA IS IN A 75 DECIBEL WHITE ZONE, WHICH TYPICALLY EXCEEDS THE ALLOWABLE DECIBEL LEVEL ALLOWED FOR RESIDENCES. FOUR THICKER SOUNDPROOF WALLS AND WINDOWS WILL BE NEEDED TO MITIGATE THE NOISE LEVEL TO HELP CREATE A BETTER RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT. FIVE. SLICING MOW INCOME HOUSING IN A WAREHOUSE COULD BE A MISCONSTRUED, COULD BE MISCONSTRUED AS WAREHOUSING OF LOW INCOME PEOPLE AND IS NOT CONDUCIVE TO A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. SIX, THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN THE AIRPORT LAND USE PLAN OF TWENTY TEN SEVEN. THE SITE IS LOCATED RIGHT ON A THREE LANE ACCESS ROAD THAT WILL NOT ONLY BE LOUD, BUT ALSO POTENTIALLY VERY DANGEROUS FOR PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN. EIGHT. THERE ARE NO SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THIS COMMUNITY. NEW COMMUNITY AT THIS SITE. LOCATION NINE. DUE TO THE CURRENT COVID 19 AND GREATER POTENTIAL SPREAD OF IT DUE TO A LACK OF SOCIAL DISTANCING, THIS MULTIFAMILY SITE IF APPROVED, COULD BECOME A CONDUIT TO SPREAD THIS AND OTHER VIRUS. SINCERELY, PATRICK VANOWEN AND ANNETTE BREWSTER, MARYANNE PARKS AT FOUR THREE FANTASIA 1 26 15 SAN PEDRO, I WOULD ASK YOU DENY THIS REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE TO HIGH DENSITY HOUSING. OUR AREA ALREADY [02:30:01] HAS MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING THAN ANY IN THE CITY, AND IT CANNOT SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC. THE SCHOOLS CANNOT TAKE ADDITIONAL STUDENTS. MARY AND PARK OF 4 0 3 SAN CAM RAY RAYFIELD AT 1 30 11 COUNTRY TRAIL. I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO CHANGE THE ZONING AT THE CORNER OF INNER PARK AND HIGHWAY 2 81. THE HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY THAT IS BEING CONSIDERED AT THE ZONING COMMISSION ON JUNE 2ND. THE CORNER LOCATION AT 1 26 15 SAN PEDRO IS ABSOLUTELY NOT AN IDEAL OR JUSTIFIED LOCATION TO PLACE ANY TYPE OF PERMANENT HOUSING, FAMILY HOUSING, IT IS AND SHOULD REMAIN AS A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK. THE ENVIRONMENT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT SUITABLE FOR HOUSING. IN MANY WAYS, I THINK IT IS JUST CRUEL AND INHUMANE TO CONSIDER THIS APPROPRIATE FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING. IF YOU FIND YOURSELF IN A POSITION TO REQUIRE HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND THEY OFFER YOU THIS SITE ACROSS FROM THE AIRPORT IN A 75 DECIBEL WHITE ZONE, RIGHT OFF THE DANGEROUS AND VERY BUSY THREE LANE ACCESS ROAD, WITH NO NEARBY SUPPORTING NEIGHBORHOOD FACILITIES AND JUST A LIQUOR STORE DOWN THE STREET, YOU MUST THINK THEY REALLY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY. THERE ARE MUCH BETTER AREAS OF TOWN TO BUILD A MORE CONDUCIVE PROJECT THAT ALLOWS FOR GREATER ACCESS TO AMENITIES, EVEN THE OF GROCERY AND CONVENIENCE STORES, PLUS NEARBY SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND MEDICAL CENTERS. JUST BECAUSE A PIECE OF LAND ALONG 2 81 SAN PEDRO CORRIDOR IS VACANT, DOESN'T MEAN DOESN'T, DOES NOT CREATE AN IMMEDIATE NEED FOR APARTMENTS OR HOUSING, ESPECIALLY IN THIS VERY WELL IDENTIFIED INDUSTRIAL AREA. IT IS INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE FOR A REASON. NO ONE WANTS TO DELIBERATELY LIVE IN THE FLIGHT PATH OR RIGHT NEAR A VERY BUSY HIGHWAY. IS THIS THE RIGHT SOLUTION FOR THOSE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES? IT IS NOT. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS TO BECOME A LIVING HELL FOR FUTURE RESIDENTS. PLEASE VOTE TO KEEP THE ZONING AS IS. PLEASE DO NOT CAVE TO THE WHIMS OF WHAT SOME MAY CONSIDER PROGRESS WHEN THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE SOLUTIONS. THIS PROJECT NEEDS A DIFFERENT HOME. SINCE COUNTY REDFIELD, DONNA THOMPSON WRIGHT, I'M VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO THE HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY BEING CONSIDERED AT 1 26 15 SAN PEDRO. THERE ARE SEVERAL MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS IN THE AREA AND NO ADDITIONAL ONES ARE NEEDED. SUCH A DEVELOPMENT WILL ONLY LEAD TO INCREASED TRAFFIC CON CONGESTION, LOWER PROPERTY VALUES FOR HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA, AND AN OVERALL DECLINE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THAT IS DONE AT THOMAS AT 1 3 8 1 5 PLUS LANE. JOAN STAFFORD, NO ADDRESS GIVEN I'M AGAINST THE TWO ACRES. ZONING CHANGE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO MULTIFAMILY DENSE APARTMENTS IF CHANGED, THE AREA AROUND THE TWO ACRES WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC CONGESTION, FULL POPULATIONS, INCREASED FREIGHTING AND REDUCE THE VALUE OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. JOAN STAFFORD, THIS IS FROM JACK FINGER AT PO BOX 1 2 0 4 8. MS. GIBBONS, PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE PARTICULAR CASE NOTED ABOVE. I BELIEVE IT SIMPLY ADDS TO UNNECESSARY WELFARE HOUSING IN OUR CITY. JACK M FINGER, AND HE REFERENCED SAN PEDRO ZONING CASE JUNE 2ND, ALEX D. HAMILTON AT 1 4 4 9 BLUECREST. I JUST BECAME AWARE OF THE REZONING CASE TO BUILD LOW RENT HOUSING ON THE PROPERTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIGHWAY 2 88. ONE WITHIN A MILE RADIUS FROM THE BLUE RIDGE ESTATE LOCATION. I HOPE YOU WILL BE VOTING AGAINST THIS REZONING WITHIN A MILE RADIUS OF BLUE RIDGE ESTATE. THERE ARE ALREADY THOUSANDS OF MULTIPLE FAMILY, MULTIPLE FAMILY HOUSING UNITS, AND WE SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO LIVE WITH ANYMORE. RIGHT HERE ON BLUE CREST LANE BITTERS INHEIMER, WE HAVE SEVERAL MEGA APARTMENT COMPLICATE COMPLEXES AND HAVE, OR FOUR MORE OF THEM ARE LOW RENT OR RENTED OUT TO WELFARE RECIPIENTS. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE BLUE RIDGE ESTATE AND COUNTRYSIDE AREA IS ALREADY PRESSED TO THE LIMIT FOR TRAFFIC AND THE CRIME RATE IS THROUGH THE ROOF. I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH A CRIME WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON BLUECREST AND BIDDERS ALONE TO PLACE MORE PEOPLE IN THIS AREA ALREADY. OVERCROWDED AREA IS FLAT OUT WRONG AND WOULD FURTHER DESTROY THE INTEGRITY OF THE AREA WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPROMISED BY POOR PLANNING. MORE POOR PLANNING WILL EVENTUALLY TURN THIS AREA INTO AN ECONOMIC SLUMP. EARLY WARNING SIGNS ARE ALREADY HERE WITH THE DOLLAR GENERAL STORE. PAYDAY LOANS, POND BUSINESSES, HUGE CHEAPLY CONSTRUCTED STORAGE FACILITIES AND OTHER BUSINESSES THAT SERVE WELFARE APARTMENTS AND OTHER LOW RENT HOUSING. THE [02:35:01] SLOW ENCOURAGEMENT OF CHEAP APARTMENTS AND MINIMAL BUSINESSES MUST COME TO AN END IF THIS BEAUTIFUL AREA IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE TO BE REZONED AND DETERIORATE. I AND OTHERS ARE BEGINNING TO WONDER WHAT GUNNING LAWS ARE GOOD FOR, IF FOR, IF WE RESIDENTS, WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY FIGHT TO KEEP OUR PROPERTY. AND THE CITY CONTINUES TO DESTROY RESIDENTIAL AND SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING, ALLOWING CONTRACTORS WHO LIVE IN PROTECTED GATED COMMUNITIES AND OUT OF THE CITY TO COME IN AND BUILD CHEAP BUSINESSES AND PEOPLE WAREHOUSES, WHICH DESTROY THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, IS DISGUSTING. IT IS DISGUSTING, NOT ONLY TO ME, BUT TO ALL OF US WHO WORK TO MAKE SAN ANTONIO THE PLACE WHERE PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER AMERICA MOVE TO THIS. WHAT IS PLANNED HERE IS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT WILL SIMPLY BE ANOTHER NEGATIVE CHIP IN OUR UNIQUE CITY THAT WILL CHANGE OUR CITY INTO JUST ANOTHER CLONE OF WHAT PEOPLE IN THE NORTHEAST AND CALIFORNIA ARE ESCAPING. THEN THERE IS A BUILDING OF THIS LARGE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO YOU AT 2 81 SOUTH SQUARE. IN THE EARLY MORNING HOURS, IT IS ALREADY DANGEROUSLY JAMMED LIKE SARDINE. ALL THE NEW TRAFFIC WILL GRIDLOCK THE WARDBACK ENTRY TO 2 81, THE WARDBACK PARK PARKWAY ENTRANCE AND THE INTERSECTION OF THE SOUTHBOUND ACCESS ROAD AND RDY, THE WORD WOODSTOCK PARKWAY WAS SUPPOSED TO SOLVE THESE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS AND HAS DONE A REMARKABLE JOB DOING THAT, BUT ANOTHER FEW APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL BRING ALL THE OLD PROBLEMS BACK. AND THIS TIME THERE WILL BE NO SOLUTION. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE RESUMING AND KEEP THIS AREA CLEAR OF ANY MORE MULTI-FAMILY AND BUSINESS DRIVEN CENTERS, FORCING PEOPLE TO BE PACKED IN. IN MY PINTO BIG, BEING IN A CAN IS NOT THE PEACEFUL LIFE WE DESERVE AND MAKES, UH, JUST ANOTHER BIG CITY LIKE ALL THE REST. ALEX B. HAMILTON OF 1449 BLUE CREST ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES. RIGHT. PLEASE SEE OUR RESPONSES BELOW TO THE POTENTIAL PROBLEMS RAISED BY MR. VAN DOEN IN HIS LETTER REGARDING REZONING. PLEASE DELIVER THIS TO THIS TO EACH VOTING COMMISSIONER. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK AND THERE ARE NO RESIDENCES IN THIS AREA, AND THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING IS INAPPROPRIATE. AND THE RESPONSE IS THE DEVELOPMENT SITE IS LOCATED IN A RETAIL COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, MAKING IT AN EXCELLENT LOCATION FOR AFFORDABLE MULTIFAMILY, WHERE WORKING CLASS FAMILIES WILL BE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MANY NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES. AND MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL JOBS DIRECTLY NORTH ACROSS INNER PARK BOULEVARD ARE RETAIL STORES, RESTAURANTS AND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS, LASER TAGS, CENTER BOWLING, AND A MOODY THEATER. EAST ACROSS SAN PEDRO ARE A HILTON GARDEN AND ANA BANK OF AMERICA. NUMBER TWO, THE COMMENT FROM MR. VAN DOEN. THIS SMALL APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL HAVE NO SUPPORT FOR LOW INCOME AS IT IS NOT CLOSE TO ANY GROCERY OR CONVENIENCE STORE, SCHOOLS, ANY MEDICAL CLINICS, WHICH ARE ALL SUPPORT SYSTEMS THAT ALL PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THOSE OF LOW INCOME, HAVE NEED OF CLOSED IN PROXIMITY. VISTA AT INTER PARK IS LOCATED IN A HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREA, WHICH IS AN AREA THAT INCLUDES LOW POVERTY, HIGH MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME, EASE OF ACCESS TO PUBLIC FACILITIES AND SERVICES AND GOOD SCHOOLS. THE SITE IS LOCATED WELL WITHIN THE DISTANCE RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOUSING SERVICES DEPARTMENT FROM A GROCERY STORE AND MEDICAL CLINIC. PLUS, THERE'S PUBLIC TRANSIT, TRANSIT STOP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET AND INNER PARK BOULEVARD IN SAN PEDRO FOR ROUTE 5 0 2, WHICH PROVIDES, PROVIDES EASY ACCESS TO NORTH STAR MALL, NORTH STAR, STAR TRANSIT CENTER, TARGET NORTH UNIVERSITY FAMILY HEALTH CENTER, A T D C V S, AND MANY OTHER SERVICES. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SCHOOLS THAT SHE, AND THERE'S A GROCERY STORE, A TARGET MEDICAL CLINIC, AND THE SCHOOL IN THE AREA. CHURCHILL HIGH SCHOOL, EISENHOWER MIDDLE SCHOOL, HARMONY HILLS ELEMENTARY. I REMEMBER THREE. THIS IS AN AREA IN A 75 DECIBEL FLIGHT ZONE, WHICH TYPICALLY EXCEEDS THE ALLOWABLE DECIBEL LEVEL. THE RESPONSE WE SPECIALIZE IN DEVELOPING IN URBAN AREAS AND ARE COMMITTED TO SOUNDPROOFING OUR DEVELOPMENTS TO ENSURE WE CREATE QUIET LIVING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. SIMILAR TO OUR DEVELOPMENT, LAUREL GLEN, WHICH IS LOCATED ALONG 1604. WE'LL BE WORKING WITHIN A ACOUSTICIAN DURING PRE-DEVELOPMENT TO CREATE A SOUNDPROOFING PLAN THAT IS TAILORED FOR THE SITE. THE PLAN WILL INCLUDE A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO ENSURE QUIET INTERIOR FOR THE RESIDENTS. THAT WILL INCLUDE DESIGN SOLUTIONS SOLUTIONS SUCH AS DOUBLE PANE WINDOWS, EXTENSIVE INSULATION IN THE WALL CAVITIES, AND ENHANCE WINDOWS, DOORS, AND WALLS. IN RESPONSE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR. PLACING LOW INCOME HOUSING IN A WAREHOUSE AREA COULD BE MISCONSTRUED AS WAREHOUSING OF LOW INCOME PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A WAREHOUSE AREA. CHERRY [02:40:01] HILL BAPTIST CHURCH IS LOCATED ADJACENT TO THE SITE, DIRECTLY TO THE SOUTH. THERE IS RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS DIRECTLY NORTH AND THE BEXAR COUNTY CONSTABLE'S OFFICE DIRECTLY WEST. IN RESPONSE TO NUMBER FIVE, THE SITE IS NOT WITHIN AIRPORT LAND USE PLAN OF 2010. WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THE CONCERN IS HERE PER THE AIRPORT LAND USE PLAN OF 2010 INCOMPATIBLE USES SUCH AS SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA SCHOOLS, GROUP HOMES, PLACES OF ASSEMBLY AND RECREATIONAL AREAS ARE NOT RECOMMENDED WITHIN THE NOISE CONTRA ZONES. THIS SAID INTER PARK IS WELL OUTSIDE OF ALL NOISEY CONTOURS. C EXHIBIT A FURTHER, THE REPORT DESCRIBES HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, INCLUDING APARTMENTS AS TYPICALLY LOCATED ALONG MAJOR ARTERIALS OR COLLECTORS. VISTA AT AIR PARK IS LOCATED ALONG SAN PEDRO, A FRONTAGE ROAD FOR ARTERIAL ROAD, US 2 81 AND RESPONSE ITEM SIX. THE SITE IS LOCATED ON A THREE LANE ACCESS ROAD THAT WILL NOT ONLY BE ALLOWED BUT POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. THE RESPONSE, THE SITE IS ON SAN PEDRO, WHICH IS A FRONTAGE ROAD. OUR DESIGN INCLUDES A PERIMETER BASED FENCE AND GATED VEHICULAR ACCESS. ITEM SEVEN, THERE ARE NO KNOWN SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THIS NEW COMMUNITY. THE RESPONSE WE'RE PROVIDING A WIDE RANGE OF ONSITE SUPPORT SUPPORTIVE SERVICES REQUIRED BY T D H C A AND N H SS D, SUCH AS ANNUAL HEALTH FAIR, ANNUAL SAFETY FAIR SOCIAL EVENTS, NOTARY SERVICES, AND MANY OTHER ADDITIONAL SERVICES RECOMMENDED BY T D H C A ITEM EIGHT. DUE TO THE CURRENT COVID, IT COULD SPREAD DUE TO LACK OF SOCIAL DISTANCING. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT BE OCCUPIED UNTIL APRIL, 2022. IT WILL BE MANAGED BY ATLANTIC PACIFIC, WHICH HAS A PORTFOLIO OVER 36,000 MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AND HAS IMPLEMENTED EXTENSIVE MEASURES TO ENSURE SOCIAL DISTANCING IN THE FACE OF THE PANDEMIC. THIS PORTFOLIO INCLUDES ELDERLY HOUSING COMMUNITIES WHERE THE TENANT POPULATION IS MOST VULNERABLE, AND WHERE ONSITE STAFF CONTINUALLY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY TO KEEP THE RESIDENTS SAFE. SINCERELY, DAN WILSON, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF ATHLETIC PACIFIC COMMUNITY. AND THE LAST LETTER FROM JANICE VAN, THAT 2310 CREEKSIDE BEND. I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND MY SUPPORT TO O C I IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT. THIS COMPANY HAS AN OUTSTANDING LEGACY OF COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY HAVE PROPERTIES, THEY'RE COMMITTED TO QUALITY MAINTENANCE, SO THEIR PROPERTY IS LONG-TERM OWNERS. AS SOMEONE INTERESTED IN THE EDUCATION OF SAN ANTONIO'S DISADVANTAGE, I WAS ENCOURAGED TO KNOW THAT OUR TUTORING PROGRAMS WOULD BE WELCOME IN THEIR COMMUNITY. THIS WOULD BE AN ASSET NOT JUST TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, BUT TO ALL OF SAN ANTONIO. AS A RETIRED PERSON LIVING ON SOCIAL SECURITY, I AM IMPRESSED ENOUGH WITH THIS COMPANY TO CONSIDER MOVING INTO THIS APARTMENT MYSELF. THANK YOU. JANICE VAN 2310 STATE BY 10. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. WILL THEY ASK MY TIME TO RESPOND? WE DO HAVE TWO MORE VOICEMAILS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL DO THE VOICEMAIL FIRST. PLEASE. PLEASE DELETE MY PREVIOUS RECORDINGS. I PRESS BELIEVE, BUT YOUR SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING AND IT SENDS MESSAGES MARKED FOR . MY NAME IS MARYANNE PARK AT FOUR ZERO THREE FANTASIA SAN ANTONIO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR ONE NINE SEVEN FIVE SEVEN FIVE. I'M CALLING TO ARGUE AGAIN THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 1 2 6 1 5 SAN PEDRO Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 0 5 4. WE ALREADY HAVE MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING IN THIS AREA THAN IN ANY AREA OF THE CITY. THE SCHOOLS AND THE ROADS CANNOT ABSORB MORE STUDENTS AND MORE CARS, SO YOU DO NOT GRANT THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS. PLEASE DELETE MY PREVIOUS RECORDINGS. I PRESS DELETE. THAT'S THE, IT WAS THE SAME VOICEMAIL, SO THERE WAS ONLY ONE. SO BACK TO YOU CHAIR. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? UM, ARE YOU THERE, ARE YOU CHECKED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT MUTED? [02:45:01] UH, OLIVIA, YOU YOU WANNA, UH, TAKE THIS? SURE. UM, YES, WE'RE, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE. UM, WE APPRECIATE THE VERY THOUGHTFUL RESPONSE THAT, UM, OUR PARTNER ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITY PRESENTED TO, UM, ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT WAS SUBMITTED THAT HOPEFULLY ADDRESS, UH, MANY OF THOSE CONCERNS. BUT WE'RE CERTAINLY AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, THANK YOU CHAIRMAN, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE COMMISSIONERS. UM, I ACTUALLY DID NOT RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION FROM AT, UH, ATLANTIC PACIFIC OR, UH, ENGINEERING UNTIL THURSDAY ON THIS PROJECT. UM, WHICH I FIND A LITTLE BIT DISCONCERTING IF YOU HAD, UH, SOME PUBLIC HEARINGS PRIOR TO THAT. UM, AND YET I'M JUST NOW GETTING SOME INFORMATION ON THIS PROJECT. UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, UH, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK STAFF IF THEY COULD PUT UP ON THE SCREEN THEY WOULD NOT MIND, UM, A GOOGLE MAP, UH, AERIAL OF THE SITE. I THINK IT GIVES, I FOUND THIS ON THE WEB. I THINK IT GIVES A BETTER, UH, DESCRIPTION OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO IF YOU COULD JUST ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT DOWN TO THAT SITE RIGHT THERE. THAT'S GOOD. UM, THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. SO I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, YOU SAID THAT YOU DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE CHURCH. DO YOU, COULD YOU TELL ME HOW MANY ATTENDED THE CHURCH MEETING AND HOW LONG THAT WAS? YES. WE HAD ABOUT, UM, WELL ACTUALLY IT WAS A PUBLIC TOWN HALL MEETING ON FEBRUARY 11TH AT SHE HILL BAPTIST CHURCH, WHICH AS WE'VE MENTIONED IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY. UH, ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS REGISTERED WITH THE CITY WITHIN A HALF MILE, AND ALL PRIVATE OWNERS WITHIN 200 LINEAR FEET WERE INVITED AND THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY 20 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE FOR THAT MEETING. OKAY. AND THEN DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER MEETING WITH, UH, CAMINA AL? WAS THAT, OR WAS THAT THE SAME MEETING? NO, THERE WAS THE ONE, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING THAT WAS HELD AT SURE. HILL GOT TO OKAY. JUST THE ONE. ALRIGHT. AND COULD YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE DESCRIPTION THEN OF THE FINANCE STRUCTURE FOR THIS PARTICULAR SITE OR MAYBE A LITTLE MORE OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE FINANCE STRUCTURE? SURE. SO THIS IS DAN WILSON FROM ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES. UM, THE FINANCING STRUCTURE, UM, CONSISTS OF PRIVATE FINANCING, PRIVATE DEBT, UM, IN COMBINATION WITH EQUITY THAT'S RAISED THROUGH THE SALE OF HOUSING TAX CREDITS. THOSE HOUSING TAX CREDITS ARE PROCURED AT THE STATE LEVEL, UM, AND THEN SOLD TO A LARGE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION IN EXCHANGE FOR EQUITY, UH, WHICH ALLOWS US TO CARRY LESS DEBT ON THE PROPERTY AND ULTIMATELY, UM, OFFER LOWER RENT TO THE LOCAL WORKFORCE. UM, THE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM, IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR, IS A PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE, UM, THE 1980S THAT WAS ACTUALLY FOUNDED DURING THE RONALD REAGAN IN PRESIDENCY. UM, AND HAS BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM, UM, EVER SINCE IN CREATING HIGH QUALITY HOUSING, UH, FOR LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND, UH, THE LOCAL WORKFORCE. SO THE PRIVATE PART OF THE STRUCTURE, DOES THE PROPERTY EVENTUALLY GET SOLD TO FOR PROFIT TO THAT PRIVATE ENTITY OR ANY PRIVATE ENTITY? SO THE, THE PRIVATE ENTITY THAT INVESTS IN THE TAX CREDITS ACTUALLY BECOME A PARTNER IN THE DEVELOPMENT. UM, AND THEY'RE IN THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE LONG TERM. UM, BUT THE, THE PROPERTY IS, IS ALSO OWNED BY US, UH, ATLANTA PACIFIC AND O C I GROUP. UM, WE HAVE AFFILIATE ENTITIES THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, IN THE OWNERSHIP FOR THE LONG TERM AND THE PROPERTY WILL, UM, BE OWNED FOR PERPETUITY IS OUR PLAN. UH, WE OWN ALL OF THESE ASSETS FOR THE LONG TERM, UM, AND THE STATE REQUIRES THEM TO BE AFFORDABLE FOR 45 YEARS. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN, UM, ON THE UNIT ITSELF, WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? YOU, I YOU GAVE US A BREAK, A BEDROOM BREAKDOWN. WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BREAKDOWN ON THE UNITS? [02:50:05] SO OUR ONE BEDROOMS ARE 654 SQUARE FEET. OUR TWO BEDROOMS ARE 875 SQUARE FEET, AND OUR THREE BEDROOMS ARE 1,190 SQUARE FEET. UM, THE SIDE IS VERY, UH, HAS A LOT OF BRUSH ON IT RIGHT NOW. SO WHEN YOU DEVELOP, AND IT'S A VERY SMALL SITE, IT'S TWO ACRES. WHEN YOU DEVELOP THAT, HOW MUCH OF WHAT'S EXISTING IN TREES WILL REMAIN OR HOW MUCH REPLANTING WOULD DO YOU EXPECT TO DO? SO THIS IS JEFF ANDRE AND, UM, WE HAVE COMPLETED A TREE SURVEY ON THE PROPERTY. AND, UM, THERE IS, UH, AS YOU NOTED, THERE IS LOTS OF BRUSH. UM, CERTAINLY THERE ARE, UM, A HANDFUL OF HERITAGE TREES, I BELIEVE THREE OF HERITAGE TREES ON THE PROPERTY. AND WE'RE GONNA BE SAVING, UH, CERTAINLY SAVING TWO OF THOSE HERITAGE TREES. UH, THE THIRD ONE WE'RE, WE'RE MAKING OUR VERY BEST ATTEMPT TO, UH, SAVE THAT THIRD HERITAGE TREE. UM, BUT, UH, OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO SAVE AS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE, UM, TO MINIMIZE THE NEED FOR, UH, REPLANTING. OKAY. UM, THE, IF I COULD GO BACK TO THAT AERIAL VIEW, UM, STAFF. SO RIGHT NOW THE, THE SITE ITSELF IS SURROUNDED BY A LOT OF ASPHALT. WE HAVE AN ASPHALT PARKING OF THE CHURCH BEHIND IT. WE HAVE ASPHALT LOT, VERY LARGE ASPHALT PARKING OF THE ABANDONED SAM'S ACROSS INNER PARK. AND THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF ASPHALT PARKING OF HIGHWAY 2 81 IN THE ACCESS ROADS ON THIS SITE. WILL YOU BE AT USING ASPHALT OR CONCRETE ON THE PARKING LOT? THE, THE EXPECTATION ON THIS PROJECT IS WE WOULD BE USING ASPHALT PAVEMENT. UM, UH, THAT'S CERTAINLY NOT SET IN STONE, BUT UH, THAT'S THE EXPECTATION. OKAY. UM, ON THE SITE, UH, I GUESS IT WOULD BE ON THE SHEER HILLS CHURCH SITE, THERE'S A SIGN THAT SAYS, SURE HILLS, THIS PARTICULAR BUILDING WILL BE, HOW MANY STORIES HIGH WILL IT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THAT SIGN? THIS IS PROPOSED TO BE, UH, FOUR STORIES AND, UM, IT IS LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF THE CHURCH IN THAT AREA. AND IT IS, UH, LESS BELIEVE IT IS LESS THAN THE HEIGHT OF THAT, UH, CHURCH LINE. OKAY. HOW, HOW HIGH IS THE CHURCH? THE CHURCH IS IS MORE THAN FOUR STORIES. UM, THE CHURCH ITSELF IS BUILT UP, UM, BUILT UP CONSIDERABLY HIGHER, UM, THAN MOST OF THE PROJECT AS WELL AS MUCH HIGHER FLOOR, UH, UH, FLOOR, THE FLOOR HEIGHTS. SO IT WILL BE TALLER, UH, THAN OUR PROJECT. THE CHURCH IS HIGHER THAN OUR PROJECT. THIS PARTICULAR SITE DOES FALL IN THE SAN ANTONIO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN. AND THAT PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN WHAT, 2009, I THINK. AND IN THAT PLAN, WHEN WE DO ANY LAND USE TYPE PLANS, WE DO GET A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT. IN FACT, THE AIRPORT ITSELF IS UNDERGOING SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT EXPANSION. AND THOSE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN, VERY TRANSPARENT AND VERY TO THE PUBLIC, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ATTENDING 'EM. UM, YOU HAD ONE MEETING, UH, TO THE PUBLIC, AND YET YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ASK PLANNING DEPARTMENT ON JUNE 10TH FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT, MEANING YOU WANT TO AMEND THESE AIRPORT, UH, VICINITY LAND USE PLAN. IS IT CURRENTLY STATES, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, A, A PLAN LIKE THIS THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE AND HAS SERVED THE COMMUNITY IN, UH, THE WAYS OF MAKING SURE THAT BOTH THE COMMUNITY THAT SURROUNDS THE AIRPORT AND THE AIRPORT ITSELF STAY WITHIN THOSE CONFINES AND BEING VERY CAREFUL OF BROACHING ANY FRAGILITY OF EITHER ONE OF THEM [02:55:01] IN THAT THE, THE NOISE LEVEL AND THE AIR QUALITY LEVELS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SURROUND AND CLOSE TO THE VICINITY OF THE AIRPORT, AS WELL AS THE AIRPORT NOT BEING, UH, COMPROMISED AS FAR AS HAVING TO RENEGOTIATE THE TIMES THAT PLANES LEAVES BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE COMPLAINTS FROM THE RESIDENTS NEARBY. UM, THIS PARTICULAR SITE SITS VERY CLOSE IN AND WITHIN, DOESN'T SIT WITHIN THE AIRPORT NOISE CONTOUR, BUT IT DOES FALL WITHIN THE NOISE, UH, MAP OF THE F A A. AND SO THAT MEANS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME ISSUE WITH SOME NOISE, UM, I THINK IN THE PATRICK VON DOLAN LETTER. AND SO, UH, BROUGHT UP THE IDEA, THE THINKING OF THE DECIBEL LEVEL OVER THE 65. IF THIS WAS A HUD SITE, IF THIS WAS, UH, BEING SPONSORED OR, OR ASSISTED BY HUD, HUD HAS REQUIREMENTS, IN FACT, THEY DISCOURAGE ANY TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL BUILDING. IF IT IS 65 OR ABOVE THE DECIBEL LEVELS, AND I BELIEVE THIS SITE IS GOING TO HIT YOUR 65 AT THE BACK END TOWARDS THE PAVED PARKING LOT, AND AT THE FRONT END, YOU'LL HIT A 75 DECIBEL IN NOISE, NOT NECESSARILY FROM THE AIRPORT ITSELF, BUT FROM THE 14 LANES OF HIGH TRAFFIC AS WELL. SO HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THE 75 ADJUSTABLE LEVEL THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO MITIGATE WITH, WITH YOUR TAX CREDITS INVOLVED? HI, SUZANNE WILSON WITH THE, WITH ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES. UM, AS, AS ADDRESSED IN OUR RESPONSE TO MR. VAN DOLAN'S LETTER, UH, WE DO WORK DIRECTLY WITH AN ACOUSTICIAN TO ENSURE THAT WE CREATE A QUIET LIVING ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. AND SO DOES THE STATE OF TEXAS. UM, T D H D A WILL BE LOOKING AT THIS VERY CLOSELY. THEY USE, UM, VERY SIMILAR STANDARDS TO WHAT YOU'RE, UH, DESCRIBING WITH HUD. UM, BECAUSE THEY HAVE OUR RESIDENTS, UM, IN QUIET ENJOYMENT, UM, AT THE TOP OF THEIR PRIORITY LIST AS WELL. AND SO, UM, THERE'S MULTIPLE PARTIES INVOLVED THAT ARE GONNA BE MAKING SURE THAT WE CREATE A QUIET LIVING ENVIRONMENT. UH, A SOUND STUDY WILL BE DONE AND WE WILL BE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT, UH, IS QUIET AND ENJOYABLE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD HELP MITIGATE MAYBE THE SOUND THAT'S INDOORS, BUT YOU HAVE A PLAYGROUND SIDED AND PARKING LOT, SO IF SOMEONE GOES OUTSIDE, WE CAN'T TURN OFF THE NOISE OF THE HIGHWAY, THERE'S NO ON OFF SWITCH. SO THAT DECIBEL LEVER DOESN'T CHANGE. IT'S STILL 75, MAYBE EVEN 80. IN MY LITTLE APP WHEN I WENT OVER THERE, IT WAS REACHING 80. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. UM, HOWEVER, I DID SEE THAT YOU WERE CONSIDERING MAYBE FENCING THE AREA. COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE FENCE INVOLVED IN THE AREA OR THE AREA? SO YES, WE, WE ARE PLANNING ON FENCING THE AREA. UM, I WOULD MENTION THAT OUR PROPERTY THAT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE PRESENTATION, UH, LAUREL GLEN IS DIRECTLY ALONG LUKE 1604. YES. BUT GLEN HAS A MUCH BIGGER BUFFER. THIS ONE POINT DID WANNA BRING THAT INTO THE MIX BECAUSE OF THE BUFFER THAT WAS BETWEEN GLEN AND HIGHWAY 1604 AND HIGHWAY 1604 IS NOT THE INTENSITY OF LANES THAT HIGHWAY 2 81 AND THE ACCESS ROADS OF SAN PEDRO. SAN PEDRO ACCESS ROAD IS FOUR LANES. THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER EIGHT LANES ON THE HIGHWAY ITSELF, AND THEN ANOTHER FOUR LANES ON THE ACCESS ROAD. SO THAT'S ALL TRAFFIC THAT NEVER STOPS. SO IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE FENCING, UH, MATERIAL AND WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO THE, THE PLAN IS TO USE A, A GALVAN GALVANIZED STEEL FENCE THAT COULD FENCE, UM, IF ANY ADDITIONAL SOUND MEASURES ARE NEEDED BASED ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF OUR ACOUSTICS, THEN UH, WE WOULD INCORPORATE THAT INTO OUR EXTERIOR DESIGN. SO FOR EXAMPLE, A SOUND BARRIER WALL IS SOMETHING THAT EXTREME WAS NECESSARY, THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD DO, UM, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE GUIDANCE OF THE SYSTEM. UM, AND T H A WOULD IN FACT REQUIRE THAT. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FULLY PREPARED TO DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE SURE, UH, AGAIN, THAT WE CREATE A, A SAFE AND COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. AND THAT WOULD BE ALL FOUR SIDES. [03:00:03] UH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE DEPENDENT ON THE, THE FEEDBACK FROM THE SOUND STUDY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO THAT KIND OF THEN BRINGS ME TO WHAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY KIND OF STRUCK ME ABOUT WANTING TO BUILD A MULTIFAMILY ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE. AND THE REASON WHY I WANTED THE COMMISSIONERS TO SEE THE AERIAL VIEW OF THIS PROPERTY AND ALL THE ASPHALT THAT'S THERE. SO MY CON SECONDARY CONCERN IS NOW THE HEAT FACTOR THAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TAKE AWAY ALL OF THOSE TREES. AND YOU SAID YOU'RE ONLY LEAVING MAYBE TWO. WE TAKE AWAY ALL OF THOSE TREES AND ALL OF THE BRUSH. NOW WE HAVE HEAT, WE ARE NOW ABSORBING MORE HEAT THAN WHAT WE WOULD ABSORB IF THOSE BUSHES WERE THERE BECAUSE ASPHALT HEATS UP VERY HOT, 125 PLUS IT'S VERY HOT. AND I HAVE A SON-IN-LAW IN THE ASPHALT BUSINESS, SO I ASKED HIM THESE QUESTIONS. UM, BUT HERE'S THE OTHER PROBLEM THAT LET ALONE, WE DEVELOPED A HEAT ISLAND ALREADY JUST BY THE PARKING LOT IN THE BUILDING. NOW WE HAVE TO PUT, IF WE PUT UP A FENCE THAT HAS NO AIR FLOW THROUGH IT, BECAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS A GALVANIZED OR SOUND BARRIER FENCE, NOW YOU'VE ONLY MADE IT HOTTER. NOW THE HEAT DOESN'T BECOME AN OVEN, IT BECOMES MORE LIKE A KILN, VERY HOT THERE BECAUSE NO AIR IS, IS ABLE TO MOVE. AND ANYBODY GOING OUT ON A PATIO, UM, OR GOING DOWN TO THEIR CAR IS GOING TO INCUR A WAVE OF HEAT. COULD YOU MAYBE GIVE ME SOME THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, AGAIN, IT'S A, IT IS A TICKET FENCE THAT WE'RE DESIGNING. SO AIR WON'T GO THROUGH THAT TICKET FENCE. AIR WON'T FLOW THROUGH IT, AIR WILL OKAY. THAT FENCE. OKAY, SO THAT, OH, IT'S A PICKET FENCE. SO YOU TOLD ME A GALVANIZED FENCE. YEAH, IT IT IS GALVANIZED. IT'S A GALVANIZED PICKET FENCE. A GALVANIZED PICKET FENCE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO I THINK THAT WE HAD TO BE VERY CAREFUL DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT ASPHALT EVERYWHERE SURROUNDING THIS. ARE WE CREATING A, WHAT DO THEY CALL THOSE? HEAT, HEAT ISLANDS OR HEAT DESERTS? AND THAT'S VERY CONCERNING TO ME. AND I THINK THAT'S WHY IT LENDS ITSELF TO THE ONE WOMAN WHO WAS VERY CONCERNED, ALMOST CALLED IT INHUMANE. IT WOULDN'T GO THAT FAR. BUT HOW DO YOU PLANT PEOPLE IN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S SITTING ATOP HEATED ASPHALT AND THE ONLY OTHER PLACE TO GO IS HEATED ASPHALT? SO THAT'S A CONCERN. ALRIGHT. I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT, UH, GOING BACK TO SOUND, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT SOUND FROM THE TRAFFIC ITSELF AND IF, UH, STAFF, IF YOU COULD JUST ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT HERE, STAFF THERE, AND JUST A LITTLE TAD MORE SO WE CAN SEE THE HIGHWAY. UM, AND COMMISSIONERS, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, I DO LIVE CLOSE TO THIS AREA. I LIVE JUST DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WAR SPOT PARKWAY IS MY NEIGHBORHOOD, HARMONY HILLS. UM, SO IN, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF THIS BUILDING, WHICH WON'T HAVE ANY BUFFER, LIKE THE ONE THAT THEY SHOWED YOU ON 1604, THIS, THAT ACCESS ROAD IS FOUR LANES. WHEN THEY REDESIGNED THIS ACCESS ROAD, YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO GET OFF OF HIGHWAY 2 81, FURTHER DOWN PAST WORSE BLOCK CLOSER TO RHAPSODY, BUT THEY REDESIGNED IT. SO JUST ABOUT WHERE YOU SEE THE CUT RIGHT THERE ON THAT PROPERTY IS WHERE THE ACCELERATION LANE TO GET ON 2 81 IS. SO, UM, IF THE ENGINEER COULD KIND OF EXPLAIN TO US, DO YOU EXPECT THAT T NOT WOULD GIVE YOU A A, A NEW CUT? 'CAUSE I THINK YOUR CUT IS EVEN CLOSER TO THE ACCELERATION LANE, UM, AND ITS FACE IS A, UH, THAT ACCESS ROAD. SO WHAT ARE YOUR CHANCES OF TSOC EVEN APPROVING THAT? A CUT RIGHT THERE. UH, WE HAVE VISITED WITH THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND THEY HAVE VERY STRINGENT GUIDELINES ON LOCATIONS OF ALLOWABLE, UH, DRIVEWAYS IN RELATIONSHIP TO, UM, UH, THEIR ON AND OFF RAMP. WE ARE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH S REQUIREMENT, UH, FOR DRIVEWAY SPACINGS TO 2 81 AND COMMISSIONER, WHILE, WHILE, WHILE, WHILE, [03:05:01] WHILE I'M TALKING, I GUESS YOU MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT, UM, ABOUT NOISE LEVELS AND, AND, AND QUOTED SOME, UH, SOME NOISE LEVELS AND, AND CERTAINLY SOME OF THE NOISE LEVELS THAT YOU QUOTED ARE, UM, ARE, CAN BE EXPERIENCED IN HEAVY DOWNTOWN AREAS. UM, THIS BEING, UH, FAR REMOVED FROM A DOWNTOWN AREA, GENERALLY THAT TRAFFIC IS MUCH LOWER AND, UM, AS WELL AS A HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT IS CAUSED BY LARGE, UM, MORE THAN A SINGLE PARKING LOT, BUT MORE A REGION, A WHOLE COMMUNITY, UH, SO TO SPEAK. AND, UM, SO, SO HEAT ISLAND IS MORE ASSOCIATED WITH, WITH LARGE AREAS OF DEVELOPMENT. I'M NOT SAYING THAT HEAT IS NOT GENERATED BY EVERY PARKING LOT, BUT IT'S THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF HOW YES, EXACTLY. THAT'S WELL STATED. THE PARKING LOT CREATING THAT, YES, I WOULD AGREE ACCUMULATIVE EFFECT OF, OF, UH, THE HEAT ISLAND FORMS WHEN VEGETATION IS GONE AND YOU'VE REPLACED IT WITH ASPHALT OR CONCRETE OR STRUCTURE OR BUILDING. SO YES, THERE IS A CUMULATIVE EFFECT ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE BECAUSE OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE, THE EXISTING HIGHWAY AND THE EXISTING, UH, PARKING LIGHTS. UM, I WANTED TO, UM, JUST AND SO MY CONCERN HERE, THANK COMMISSIONER, I ASK A COMMENT ABOUT, WELL, I'M NOT ASKING A QUESTION YET, SO LET ME, WHY DON'T YOU WAIT TILL I ASK A QUESTION. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE HIGHWAY HERE, AND THERE'S MERELY NOT A BUFFER ANYWHERE OTHER THAN THE FENCING TO THE FOUR LANES OF A VERY HIGH SPEED ACCESS ROAD. AND I THINK A LOT OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR ACCESS ROADS. THIS IS A, THIS IS LIKE A MINI HIGHWAY. IT GOES VERY FAST, THEN YOU GO INTO THE 14, THE OTHER EIGHT LANES OF A HIGHWAY. SO I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY ISSUE. I'M IMAGINING, AND FORGIVE ME FOR THE SCENARIO, YOU ALL CAN COME UP WITH YOUR OWN, BUT I'M IMAGINING A YOUNG SINGLE MOM, SHE BUCKLES IN HER TODDLER INTO THE BACKSEAT AND GETS INTO HER CAR AND SHE PULLS OUT ONTO THAT VERY FAST ACCESS ROAD. ACCESS ROAD IS DOING TWO THINGS. IT'S GOING TO BRING PEOPLE UP TO SPEED SO THEY CAN GET ONTO HIGHWAY 2 81, RIGHT WHERE THAT CUT IS THEN PAST THE CHURCH, YOU'RE DECELERATING TO UP TO MAKE A TURN ONTO ONTO WBA PARKWAY. BUT WHAT'S ALSO HAPPENING AT WBA PARKWAY IS CARS ARE COMING OFF AND IT'S ONE OF THE HIGH AREAS. WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO READ ABOUT IT, YOU'LL WITNESS IT YOURSELF. UH, ACCIDENTS AS PEOPLE COME OFF OF, UH, WAR SPOT PARKWAY, DO YOU GET ONTO THAT ACCESS ROAD? SO TELL ME HOW, HOW DO YOU SEE THAT MOM TRYING TO NAVIGATE OUT OF THAT AREA WITH A TALLER IN THE BACK AND A LITTLE CAR AND BLIND SPOTS AT FAST CARS? SO AGAIN, COMMISSIONER THE, UM, UH, UH, OP SET STANDARDS FOR DRIVEWAY SPACING RELATIVE TO, UH, ON AND OFF RAMP, UM, THEY, UM, WE, WE, WE ARE FOLLOWING THOSE TECHOPS STANDARDS THAT ARE CERTAINLY TIMES OF THE DAY WHERE IMMEDIATELY GETTING ONTO THE, UM, UH, GETTING TO THE ACCESS ROAD IS, UM, IT IS PROBABLY NOT ADVISABLE, BUT INSTEAD GETTING ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. AND CERTAINLY THERE ARE TIMES OF THE DAY WHERE, UM, WHERE, UM, GETTING ON AND, UH, CROSSING AND, UH, WEAVING TOWARD, UM, THE ON RAMP, THE ENTRANCE RAMP IS, IS, IS A, A SAFE MOVE. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THOUGHT AND THEN I'LL OPEN UP TO THE COMMISSIONERS. I APPRECIATE THEIR PATIENCE. I REALLY DO. UM, UH, THERE WAS A STUDY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME TO MY MIND, UM, WITH THIS PARTICULAR SITE, REALLY BECAUSE OF IT BEING VERY, UH, CONDENSED IN NATURE ON, UH, 64 UNITS ON A TWO ACRE LOT. AND I STARTED THINKING, YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENS TO, UH, IS THERE OVERCROWDING THAT HAPPENS IN, IN THIS TYPE OF A COMMUNITY, IN THIS TYPE OF A, UM, MUL UH, MULTIFAMILY? AND I DID HAPPEN TO COME ACROSS AN INTERESTING STUDY THAT I THOUGHT, UM, I WANTED TO MENTION, AND THERE IS AN OVERCROWDING [03:10:01] ISSUE THAT SEEMS TO HAPPEN. THIS STUDY FOUND WHEN THERE ARE INCOME LEVELS OF $1 TO 25,000, UM, AND THEN 25,000 TO MAYBE UP TO 50,000. IT'S HUGE. THEN WHEN THE INCOME LEVELS CHANGE OVER THE 50 ON UP, THEY GO DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY. AND I THOUGHT, WELL, THAT'S KIND OF ODD, WHY WOULD OVERCROWDING HAPPEN? BUT ONE OF THE REASONS IS THAT OFTENTIMES THE PERSON WHO IS THE RENTER WHO APPLIED TO RENT AND, AND, AND BE IN THAT FACILITY HAS RELATIVES OR PEOPLE THAT MOVE IN. COULD YOU, UM, TELL ME HOW YOU GO ABOUT FINDING HOW THE APPLICANTS FIND YOU, HOW YOU MAINTAIN THAT IT'S THE APPLICANT THAT STAYS IN THAT UNIT AND IT DOESN'T BECOME AN OVERCROWDING SITUATION. AND THAT MIGHT BE WHAT MR. VAN DOLAN WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, THAT YOU GOT THAT OVERCROWDING AND NOW WE START TO MAYBE ADD TO SOME OF THE, UH, SPREADING OF VIRUSES, ALTHOUGH THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE OF A STRETCH. THIS IS OLIVIA, I, I'LL START BY SAYING THAT, AS WE MENTIONED, THIS IS DAN WILSON WITH ATLANTIC SPECIFIC. UM, AS, AS WE MENTIONED IN OUR PRESENTATION, UH, WE MANAGE OVER 36,000 UNITS OF HIGH QUALITY MULTIFAMILY ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. UM, AND SO WE ARE VERY COGNIZANT OF WHAT IT TAKES TO MANAGE A PROPERTY SUCCESSFULLY AND TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE LIVING IN OUR COMMUNITY ARE IN FACT THE RESIDENTS. UM, AND SO WE ARE TRACKING THAT CLOSELY ON A UNIT BY UNIT BASIS, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE FOLLOWING THE LEASE AGREEMENTS THAT THEY SIGNED. UM, AND IF THEY'RE NOT, THEN UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAVE TO BE REMOVED. UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON A UNIT BY UNIT BASIS, UM, ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. AND SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TRACK VERY CLOSELY. YOU KNOW, ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS, WHILE THIS IS FINANCED, UM, WITH A HOUSING TAX CREDIT COMPONENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WILL EVER BE EASILY DISTINGUISHED, UH, FROM ANY OTHER CLASS A MARKET RATE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I'M VERY EXCITED TO DEVELOP ANOTHER HIGH QUALITY COMMUNITY THAT'S AFFORDABLE TO ESSENTIAL MEMBERS OF THE LOCAL WORKFORCE, UH, HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. BUT NOTHING INSPIRES ME MORE THAN OUR RESIDENTS, UH, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO SERVING OTHERS. AND SO, ONE THING I WANTED TO MAKE MISUNDERSTOOD, UM, I WANNA BE CAREFUL WE GET INTO, UH, YOUR COMMERCIAL ANSWER THE QUESTION BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T REALLY GIVE ME A GOOD IDEA OF THE PROCESS OF THAT, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND PUT IT THERE, MADAM CHAIR AND OPEN IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS. THIS IS, THIS IS OLIVIA, IF I MAY ADD AN ADDITIONAL RESPONSE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S CLEAR FOR THE COMMISSIONERS. UM, SO TENANTS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE GOOD CREDIT AND THEY MUST MEET THE INCOME QUALIFICATIONS AND THEY MUST ALSO PASS A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK. THAT'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCREENING PROCESS THAT GOES INTO WHO GETS TO BE APPROVED AS A TENANT. THE EXPECTATION IS TO INDIVIDUALS CODE BEDROOM. AND I WILL ALSO ADD THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTIES ARE MANAGED BY ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES RATHER THAN ANOTHER THIRD PARTY THAT COMES IN TO HANDLE THAT MANAGEMENT ON SITE AS TO THE ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BE COMPLIANT THROUGHOUT THEIR RESIDENCE IN THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER LEE? YEAH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MADAM CHAIR. UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SO, UH, DID I MISS, UH, YOUR DESCRIPTION ABOUT WHAT IS YOUR RANGE ON, UH, ON YOUR RENT? SO THE, THE RENT WILL RANGE FROM, UM, $1,123 ON THE HIGH SIDE, UM, TO $270 ON THE LOW SIDE. UM, THE BREAKDOWN OF DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS IS, UH, WE HAVE 10% OF THE UNITS AT 20 AND 30% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. AND THEN, UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE UNITS, UH, 41 OF THE UNITS WILL BE AT 60% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. AND THEN, UM, 16 UNITS WILL BE AT 50% OF THE AREA MEDIA INCOME. UM, SO JUST TO CONTEXTUALIZE THAT FOR YOU, THAT THE INCOMES THAT WE'RE TARGETING ARE [03:15:01] UP TO, UM, $50,160 WOULD BE THE MAX THAT WE COULD ALLOW ON A 60% A M I UNIT. UM, THE PROGRAM DOES ALLOW YOU TO LEASE THE HOUSEHOLDS EARNING UP TO 80% OF THE A M I. SO IF A QUALIFIED HOUSEHOLD DOES COME IN AND APPLY AT THAT INCOME LEVEL, UH, WE CAN TAKE THEM IN. UM, BUT WE ARE, UH, CURRENTLY FOCUSED ON THE, THE 60% A M I AND BELOW TARGET, AND, AND THAT'S BASED ON OUR MARKET STUDY AND OUR RESEARCH INDICATES THAT THAT'S WHERE THE, THE MAJORITY OF THE DEMAND IS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, WITH REGARD TO THE LOCATION AND YOUR PROJECT, WHAT REQUIREMENTS DO YOU HAVE TO MEET AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION TO SERVICES AND, AND, UH, SPECIFICALLY ASKING WHAT DO YOU CONSIDER ACCEPTABLE RANGE TO COMMUTE TO A LOCAL GROCERY STORE? SO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'LL, YOU'LL SEE IN OUR WRITE UP TO MR. DOLAN'S LETTER IS THE FACT THAT WE DO HAVE A GROCERY STORE WITHIN 0.58 MILES. UM, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A MEDICAL FACILITY WITHIN 1.57 MILES. UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UM, REQUIRES A ONE MILE DISTANCE FOR THE GROCERY STORE, UM, AND A THREE MILE DISTANCE FOR MEDICAL. AND WHEN I SAY CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UM, THAT'S N H S D, UM, WHO IS IN, YOU KNOW, GIVING US GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE TO LOCATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY. CAN YOU CLARIFY ON THAT STORE, WHAT STORE YOU'RE SAYING IS WITHIN A HALF MILE OF THIS PROPERTY? UH, SO TARGET HAS A FULL FIVE GROCERY STORE, UM, AND THAT'S LOCATED 0.58 MILES FROM THE SITE. OKAY. AND AS YOU KNOW, YOUR SUBJECT SIDE IS ALONG A MAJOR ARTERIAL EXPRESSWAY AND HEAVY, UM, TRAFFIC, SO THERE IS NO DIRECT BUS ROUTE. SO HOW DO YOU ENVISION YOUR TENANTS THAT DO NOT DRIVE COMMUTING TO THAT STORE? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION, AND I, I SHOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THIS IN MY INITIAL RESPONSE. UM, PUBLIC TRANSIT IS ALSO A TOP PRIORITY FOR, UH, BOTH THE CITY AND THE STATE. WHAT WAS SO, UH, EXCITING AND ATTRACTIVE ABOUT THIS SITE IS RIGHT, UM, ON THE CORNER OF INNER PARK IN SAN PEDRO, UM, IS A BUS STOP. UH, AND THAT BUS STOP SERVES ROUTE 5 0 2, UH, WHICH PROVIDES EASY ACCESS TO THE NORTH STAR MALL, UM, THE NORTH STAR TRANSIT CENTER, THE TARGET, UM, THE NORTH UNIVERSITY FAMILY HEALTH CENTER, H E B C V S AND, AND MANY OTHER SERVICES. SO THAT WAS, UH, ONE OF THE MAJOR DRAWS TO THIS SITE, UH, BECAUSE IT'S SO CONDUCIVE FOR PUBLIC TRANSIT FOR OUR RESIDENTS. HMM. OKAY. I I WOULD DISAGREE THAT THAT'S A GREAT ROUTE TO TAKE UNLESS YOU WANNA GO SHOP AT THE H E B ON SAN PEDRO, SOUTH OF NORTH STAR MALL. UM, I THINK IT WOULD TAKE YOU A COUPLE OF TRANSFERS TO GET BACK AROUND TO THE TARGET AT BIDDERS, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. UM, AND I TELL ME ONE MORE TIME AGAIN ABOUT YOUR NUMBER OF UNITS IN THE A M I. SURE. SO WE HAVE, UH, 64 UNITS AND 10, UM, 0.9% OF THOSE UNITS ARE DEDICATED TO AMIS AT 20 AND 30%. UH, 25% OF THOSE UNITS ARE DEDICATED TO 50% AND 64% ARE DEDICATED TO 60%. AND AGAIN, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO GO TO 80%. UH, BUT THOSE ARE THE, THE CURRENT SET EFFECTS THAT WE'RE TARGETING. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. I FORGOT TO MUTE ME. OKAY. THERE WAS THOUGHT THERE. UM, UH, SO THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT SITE, IN MY OPINION TO LIVE. AND I HAVE VERY BIG CONCERNS ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE ON, ON ASPHALT, I MEAN, BASICALLY. [03:20:01] BUT, UM, ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS, AND HUD IS VERY CLEAR ON THIS, AND THEIR NOISE ASSESSMENT, THE 65 DECIBELS OR ABOVE, THEY WILL NOT LEND MONEY ON THAT. NOW, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT USING HUD, BUT HUD'S A GOOD, A GOOD, UM, MARKER FOR US TO LOOK AT. IF THEY DON'T LET RENT, THEN WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? UM, AS FAR AS THE OVERCROWDING, GENERALLY THEY LOOK AT ONE AND A HALF PERSON PER ROOM. AND HE DID, YOU DID MENTION THAT YOU WILL BE, YOU KNOW, USING YOUR BACKGROUND CHECK AND YOUR CRIMINAL BACKGROUND CHECK, BUT THE OVERCROWDING HAPPENS WHEN VISITORS STAY TOO LONG AND THAT BEGINS TO HAPPEN. AND THAT STUDY WAS DONE BY ALSO ANOTHER HOUSING ORGANIZATION ON LOOKING AT HOW COME OVERCROWDING HAPPENS IN THESE LOW INCOME TYPE MULTIFAMILY, UM, AS FAR AS THE URBAN HEAT ISLAND GOES. AND THAT IS A REALLY BIG CONCERN FOR ME. AND I THINK WE LOOKED AT THIS, UM, AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAD LOOKED AT OUR HEAT ISLANDS DOWNTOWN. UM, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE SOME ABSORPTION FROM DOWNTOWN, YOU HAVE NO, YOU HAVE NO BUFFER. UM, WHERE I LIVE, WHICH IS JUST DOWN THE STREET, I HAVE TREES, I HAVE OTHER HOUSES, CARS, I HAVE ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT BUFFER MY HEAT AND MY SOUND. THERE IS NONE HERE. IT, IT WILL SIT AND BAKE. AND THAT'S A VERY CONCERN FOR ME. YOU CANNOT GO OUT ON YOUR PATIO, YOU'D HAVE TO HURRY TO GO TO YOUR CAR. UM, AND THE QUALITY OF AIR THAT YOU BREATHE STARTS TO AFFECT THE SAFETY AND WELFARE. UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE, THE NOISE ON THE TRAFFIC ITSELF, I DID FIND ANOTHER INTERESTING ARTICLE THAT SHE, AND THIS ONE WAS BY THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION WHO CAME OUT AND SAID THAT TRAFFIC HAS, UM, SOME CONSIDERABLE HEALTH ISSUES RELATED TO IT. TRAFFIC NOISE, JUST TRAFFIC NOISE. AND ETHAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT 14 LANES OF TRAFFIC AND THERE'S NO ON OFF SWITCH WHEN YOU COME OUTSIDE, IT'S GOING, IT'S GOING, IT IS GOING, IT'S GOING. AND IT WILL ONLY GET LOUDER BECAUSE WE'RE BUILDING OUR 2 81 CORRIDOR. AS YOU GO FURTHER DOWN TO 1604, WE WANT PEOPLE COMING FROM SOUTH, GOING NORTH. AND THAT MEANS, UH, THIS IS GOING TO ADD MORE CARS ON THE ACCESS ROAD. NORTH IS SOUTHBOUND. BUT THE THING THAT I DIDN'T REALLY, UH, UH, TALK MUCH ABOUT WAS THE AIRPORT LAND USE PLAN ITSELF. AND IT'S INTERESTING IN THE LAND USE PLAN, IF YOU READ IT, AND I DID , UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IT SAYS IS THEY'RE KEY LAND USE THEMES. AND I'LL JUST READ THIS, INCLUDE PROTECTING AIRPORT OPERATIONS AND EXPANSION, DISCOURAGING RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE NOISE CONTOURS. AND THE NOISE CONTOURS ARE BASICALLY WHERE THE OUTLINE OF THE AIRPLANE FLIES. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A LARGER SPHERE OF HOW DOES THAT NOISE REVERBERATE OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, BEING ONE OF THESE HOUSES THAT IS IN THAT NOISE MAP, WE OFTEN WILL HAVE IN OUR NEIGHBOR, I AN , BUT MULTIPLE PEOPLE CALLING IN, COMPLAINING ABOUT THE, THE NOISE FROM THE AIRPORT. THEY ARE LOUD. IF YOU REMEMBER, OUR AIRPORT DOESN'T JUST SERVE COMMERCIAL. WE SERVE MILITARY, WE SERVE THE POLICE, THE HELICOPTERS. YOU'LL HEAR THOSE HELICOPTERS DAILY. UM, THE OTHER THING I THOUGHT WAS INTERESTING ON THE, UH, PLAN ITSELF IS THERE ARE CERTAIN GOALS. AND MICHAEL ONLY REFERENCED GOAL NUMBER TWO, BUT HE DIDN'T REFERENCE GOAL NUMBER ONE, WHICH I THINK IS THE BIG CRUX OF THIS. AND THAT IS THAT WE WANNA PROTECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS BY THEIR HEALTH AND THEIR SAFETY AND THEIR WELFARE. AND I, I JUST CAN'T, COULD NOT GIVE HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE FOR THIS PARTICULAR MULTI-FAMILY. I COULDN'T GIVE IT A 10, I COULDN'T GIVE IT AN EIGHT. I WOULDN'T EVEN GIVE IT A FIVE TO PULL OUT INTO THAT TRAFFIC. AND I REALIZE THAT'S NOT, YOU ALL AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THAT AREA, BUT I TELL YOU IT'S VERY FAST. IN FACT, I RARELY USE THE ACCESS ROAD. I JUST STAY ON THE HIGHWAY BECAUSE, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE ON THE ACCESS ROAD, THERE ARE, EVERYBODY'S MOVING IN AND OUT. YOU'RE MOVING TO MOVE OVER ONTO 2 81 OR YOU'RE COMING OFF 2 81, YOU'RE MOVING TO GO INTO A STORE AND YOU'RE MOVING OVER TO GO INTO INNER PARK. YOU ARE MOVING OVER, OVER, OVER, OVER. AND SO IT'S A REAL LEAP BOG. AND I DON'T, I, I'M JUST A LITTLE MORE CAUTIOUS DRIVER. I DON'T LIKE DOING THE ACCESS ROAD. UM, AND THEN THE SA SO THAT SAFETY FACTOR. AND THEN THE WELFARE. [03:25:01] I WOULD WANT, I WOULD WANT LOW INCOME HOUSING TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO NOT SURVIVE, LIKE TO THRIVE. I WOULD WANT THEM TO BE AT A PLACE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE UP AND OUT OF THAT PLACE. BUT THIS IS SO COMPACT, SO INTENSE IN THE LAND THAT IT'S SITTING ON BECAUSE IT WILL BE ASPHALT. AND THE INTENSITY OF THAT, OF THAT NOISE THAT NEVER GOES AWAY. I CAN'T SEE THE THRIVING HAPPENING FOR LOW INCOME. AND WE CAN DO BETTER AND WE CAN FIND A BETTER SPOT. I'M NOT CRITIC, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS DEVELOPER. I THINK THE PROPERTY THAT HE DID SHOW ON 16TH FORD LOOKS VERY NICE 'CAUSE THAT ONE HAD A POOL, UM, AND IT WAS A LITTLE MORE CLOSELY LOCATED TO A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE ISOLATION ON THIS ONE. THIS IS ISOLATED. THERE IS ONLY COMMERCIAL AROUND IT. THERE ARE NO NEIGHBORHOODS NEARBY. IT'S VERY ISOLATED. UM, SO I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO WITH A DENIAL ON THIS PROPERTY. I WISH IT COULD BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE, AND I THINK MAYBE YOU COULD FIND A DIFFERENT PLACE. UH, ONE LAST CONCERN THAT I ALSO DID HAVE IS THE AMOUNT OF MONEY, TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WILL HAVE TO GO IN TO MITIGATE THESE ISSUES WHEN YOU COULD GET MORE LAND OR YOU COULD GET MORE LIVING SPACE. INSTEAD, WE HAVE TO GET BETTER WINDOWS AND A WALL AND MITIGATE THE SOUND AND THE HEAT. WELL, COULDN'T WE HAVE USED THAT TAXPAYER MONEY TO GIVE A BETTER OR LARGER LIVING SPACE FOR THOSE OF, UH, THIS INCOME LEVEL? SO MY MOTION, MADAM CHAIR, IS FOR DENIAL OF, UH, CASE, UH, NUMBER 11. MADAM CHAIR, I, I, I, MAY WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE COMMISSIONER COMMENTS. I'M SORRY, WE'RE, WE'VE MOVED PAST THAT PART OF THE, THE MEETING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE, SO WE HAVE A, THIS IS MARK AND MAKE A, I I SECOND THE MOTION AND THEN I, I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY JUST TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS IF I COULD. OKAY. LET ME JUST, UH, REPEAT, UM, THE MOTION. SO THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. IT HAS BEEN SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO COMMENTS BY THE COMMISSIONERS. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. THANK YOU. UM, WELL, MUCH OF, MANY OF MY COMMENTS WERE, WERE, UM, WERE ALREADY STATED BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, IN HER VERY, I THOUGHT, VERY THOROUGH, UM, EXAMINATION OF THIS CASE. UM, SO I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT. UH, FIRST, I, I COMMEND THE DEVELOPER HERE. UM, I COMMEND ALL DEVELOPERS THAT, UM, THAT ARE INVOLVED IN, IN PRODUCING LOW INCOME, UH, HOUSING LIKE THIS. I THINK IT, WE WOULD ALL AGREE IT SERVES AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT PURPOSE. UM, I THOUGHT THE PRESENTATION BY THE DEVELOPER WAS, WAS REALLY GOOD TODAY. AND AGAIN, A VERY NOBLE CAUSE TO PROVIDE THIS HOUSING FOR, FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, UM, AND, AND OTHERS. SO, SO I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THAT. UM, MY, MY SECOND OF THE MOTION FOR DENIAL, UM, AGAIN, IS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT FAVORING LOW INCOME HOUSING LIKE THIS. I JUST THINK THERE ARE BETTER, THERE'S A BETTER SPOT, UM, IN THE CITY, UH, FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS. AND I THINK, UM, THAT THIS DEVELOPER, UH, OR IN ANOTHER DEVELOPER, UM, WILL FIND THAT SPOT. AND THERE'S GONNA BE A, A, UM, A BETTER PLACE FOR, FOR THESE, UH, FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN HOUSING LIKE THIS, UM, TO BE, YOU KNOW, WE SPEND A LOT OF MONEY, UH, UM, ON THESE STUDIES AND THINGS THAT WE DO AS A CITY. AND, AND I DON'T THINK THAT, UM, THEY SHOULD GO TO WASTE. AND, AND HERE, UM, THERE WAS DEFINITELY A, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN. UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF TIME AND HOURS SPENT ON, ON PUTTING THAT TOGETHER. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO, TO CAST IT ASIDE, I THINK, I THINK MAKES NO SENSE. WE DO, WE PUT THESE PLANS TOGETHER AND WE DO THESE STUDIES FOR A PURPOSE. UM, AND I THINK WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PLAN, YOU SEE PRETTY CLEARLY, UH, THAT A DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS DOESN'T, DOESN'T FIT HERE IN THIS SPOT. UM, IT'S A, UH, IT, IT'S, IT'S A LOUD AREA. I THINK, UM, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS PRETTY, PRETTY, UH, CLEARLY TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH, WITH THE NOISE LEVELS THERE AND HOW IT WOULD EXCEED THE, UH, THE LEVELS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, HUD WOULD, HUD WOULD RECOMMEND. UM, AND I THINK THERE'S ALL SORTS OF ISSUES WITH, UM, LOGISTICAL ISSUES FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WOULD BE AT THIS PLACE, UH, [03:30:01] TO GET TO AND FROM, UH, THEIR, THEIR RESIDENTS AND, AND TO AND FROM, FROM OTHER NECESSITIES THAT, THAT THEY WOULD NEED, UM, TO BE THERE FOR GROCERY STORES AND OTHERWISE. UH, UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK, UH, I THINK COMMISSIONER GIBBONS REALLY DID A GOOD JOB AT SUMMING THIS ONE UP. UM, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. UM, BUT I, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, AGAIN, THIS DEVELOPER OR ANOTHER FINDING, FINDING ANOTHER SPOT, UH, FOR HOUSING LIKE THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? THANK YOU. UM, WE ALL, UH, WE ALWAYS COMMEND THE DEVELOPERS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE JUST CAN'T APPROVE IT. UM, I HAD ONE RECENTLY. IT WAS, IT WAS JUST TOO CLOSE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, OTHERWISE WE'D APPROVE IT. THIS ONE IS JUST TOO FAR FROM A NEIGHBORHOOD, OTHERWISE WE'D APPROVE IT. UM, AND YET THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHO ARE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT THOSE PEOPLE NEAR THEM. IT'S TOO NEAR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SEEMS LIKE IT'S A REAL UPHILL BATTLE TO GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING APPROVED IN THE CITY. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEING ASKED HERE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY ASK OF MULTI-FAMILY IN OTHER CASES THAT WE GET, CAN THE SCHOOLS HANDLE THE KIDS? WHAT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC? WHAT ABOUT THE NOISE? WHAT ABOUT THE HEAT ISLAND? WE'VE APPROVED A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY ON 2 81, CLOSER TO DOWNTOWN ON 35. THOSE WERE ALL APPROVED. THOSE, THOSE WEREN'T AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND, UM, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT AT ALL. THERE'S PLACES ON 2 81 WHERE YOU, I SWEAR YOU COULD REACH OUT AND TOUCH THE SIDES OF THE BUILDINGS, AND WE DIDN'T ASK THOSE QUESTIONS THERE. THERE'S LOTS OF MULTIFAMILY IN SAN ANTONIO THAT'S SURROUNDED BY ASPHALT IN, IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY DISTRICT AND IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, BUT AGAIN, THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S MULTIFAMILY ON 2 81 AND I 35. AND THE OTHER QUESTION I DON'T THINK WE EVER REALLY ASK ABOUT MULTIFAMILY IS, ARE THOSE PEOPLE GONNA BE BRINGING THEIR, THEIR RELATIVES AND THEIR FRIENDS TO LIVE IN THEIR APARTMENTS WITH THEM? BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE JUST OVERCROWD INTO THE UNITS? THAT'S AN OLD TROPE AND IT'S NOT A VERY GOOD ONE. AND UPDATING IT TO REFLECT C OVID 19, THAT JUST, THAT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A HONEST QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED ABOUT THIS ONE, BUT I DON'T AGREE WITH THESE ARGUMENTS AND I HAVE SOME REAL CONCERNS WITH THESE ARGUMENTS AND I WON'T SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES. ALRIGHT THERE. YEAH, I, UH, I ALSO SHARE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO'S CONCERNS AND ANYTIME WE TALK ABOUT, UM, OH, IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, I KIND OF TRY AND IGNORE ANY OF THOSE CONCERNS BECAUSE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT IS IT APPROPRIATE, IS MULTIFAMILY APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE? IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT IN ZONING ALL THE TIME. WELL, WE'RE ZONING FOREVER, BUT WHAT OTHER USES COULD BE WITHIN THAT ZONING CLASSIFICATION? WE DON'T, A LOT OF TIMES WE GET, WE GET HUNG UP ON, IT'S GONNA BE THIS EXACT USE. UM, AND SO WHILE I DO AGREE THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS FOR PUTTING MULTIFAMILY AT THIS INTERSECTION, I DO RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE PUT MULTIFAMILY ALONGSIDE MAJOR HIGHWAYS. UM, I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SEE IT UP BY 10. WE SEE IT WITH A RECENT ONE THAT, THAT I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO WAS REFERRING TO THAT WAS DOWNTOWN. VERY, VERY SMALL SITE. UM, I SEE THAT WE HAVE SCHOOLS RIGHT ALONG SIDE HIGHWAYS. UM, I THINK ABOUT LEON SPRINGS ELEMENTARY RIGHT ON I 10, UM, WITH A SOUND BARRIER WALL. UM, SO WHILE I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME VALID CONCERNS, [03:35:01] UM, IT, IT'S, IT IS ONE THAT MY VOTE REFLECTS ONLY THE CONCERNS OF WHETHER MULTIFAMILY IS APPROPRIATE AND NOT CONCERNS OVER WHETHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ALLOWED. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, UH, UM, SAY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, I I, I AGREE WITH WHAT A LOT OF THEM HAVE JUST SAID BY, BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND COMMISSIONER S SIPES. UM, BUT I, I DO ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT WASN'T THAT THREE OR FOUR MEETINGS AGO, UM, APPROVED, UH, A SIMPLER PROJECT ACTUALLY IN MY DISTRICT, IN DISTRICT 10. UM, SO, SO I, I I GUESS I, I AGREE SOMEWHAT THAT SOMETIMES IT MAY SEEM LIKE, UM, THESE PROJECTS GET SCRUTINIZED MORE, BUT IT'S NOT AS IF WE AS A COMMISSION, UM, HAVEN'T PASSED 'EM. AND WE HAVE AS RECENTLY AS I THINK A MONTH AGO, COMMISSIONER, WE, UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. SO LISTENING TO COMMISSIONER SYS HARDMAN, I BELIEVE HE NAILED IT. THIS IS A LAND USE ISSUE. EVERYTHING ELSE, WHILE IT MAY HAVE, UH, MERIT, THIS IS A LAND USE ISSUE, WE SHOULD CONSIDER IT AS A, IT AS A LAND USE ISSUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UM, I CERTAINLY AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, EY AND COMMISSIONER SIPES. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, I THINK THERE ARE ENOUGH LAND USE ISSUES GIVEN THE SIZE AND LOCATION OF THE SITE TO, TO RAISE CONCERNS. AND, YOU KNOW, IN THESE CLOSE CASES, I DO LIKE TO TRY TO DEFER TO THE COMMISSIONER FOR THE RELEVANT, UH, CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH I THINK COMMISSIONER MIDDLE MADE POWERFUL POINTS AND, AND I THINK, I HOPE THAT I AM AN ADVOCATE FOR, UM, ACCESSIBLE HOUSING. UM, I THINK IN THIS CASE I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, THIS IS, UM, A DIFFICULT CASE IN THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A TAX CREDIT PROJECT AND THAT RAISES A LOT OF CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I THINK WE ALL TEND TO DO OUR JOBS IN TRYING TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO SEE IF THEY HAVE BUY-IN AND NOT ON THE PROJECT. FOR ME, WE ALSO LOOK AT LOCATION AND YES, IF THIS IS A, AN APPROPRIATE LAND USE, AND ON THE ONE HAND I CAN FIND THAT IT IS AN ACCEPTABLE LAND USE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ALSO HAVE TO QUESTION IS IT A GOOD AND SAFE PLACE FOR SUCH LAND USE? AND, AND I, I DO HAVE CONCERNS THERE. I I DO AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S POINTS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW. AND MY POINT TO THE APPLICANT WAS, IT'S ALMOST DISINGENUOUS TO SAY THAT THERE'S A FOOD STORE WITHIN LESS THAN A HALF A MILE. WHEN IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF PROJECT, WE TYPICALLY ASSUME THAT NOT EVERYONE LIVING THERE IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD A CAR OR BE ABLE TO AFFORD TO JUST CATCH A CAB OR A UBER OR WHATEVER TO THE NEAREST GROCERY STORE. AND TO GET TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONER'S POINT, THAT WOULD MEAN A WALK ACROSS A MILE OF NOTHING BUT ASPHALT IN THE HOT SUMMER WITH YOUR CHILDREN TO GET TO THE NEAREST TARGET TO GET TO YOUR MILK AND BUTTER AND BREAD. SO I THINK WE'VE ALL HAD SOME VALID, UH, DISCUSSION TODAY, AND WE'VE ALL MADE SOME VALID POINTS THAT WE ALL HAVE TO CONSIDER. AND I DO TAKE EXCEPTION TO THE COVID ARGUMENT. I DON'T FIND THAT THAT'S RELEVANT HERE. I THINK THAT'S A, A BIT OF A STRETCH, BUT I AM, I MEAN, ON THE FENCE ABOUT ONE, I I DO FIND THAT THAT SITE DEFINITELY COULD USE SOME DEVELOPMENT THAT A, A MULTIFAMILY UNIT COULD GO THERE. I'M JUST CONCERNED THOUGH THAT IT'S A TAX INCENTIVE PROJECT AND THAT MEANS THAT PEOPLE THAT WILL BE, UM, USING THAT SITE MAY NOT HAVE THE ABILITY, UH, THAT THE OTHER WOULD HAVE IN A DIFFERENT LOCATION. SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? [03:40:01] OKAY. WELL, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT I, UM, HAVE POINTS THAT I AGREE WITH ON VARIOUS, UH, COMMISSIONERS INCLUDING, UH, MY CONCERN WITH LAND USE AND MY CONCERN WITH THE SAFETY IN THAT, UH, PARTICULAR AREA. HOWEVER, UM, FOUND IT, UH, UH, ALARMING. 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER ENCOUNTERED, UH, QUESTIONS REGARDING OVERCROWDING AND, UM, GOVERNING OF HOW MANY PEOPLE LIVE IN A PARTICULAR HOUSEHOLD AND ALSO, UM, THE COVID, UM, ARENA. BUT I, I DO FIND LAND USE CONCERNS AND SAFETY CONCERNS WITH THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION. IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL WITH A BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. WHITE ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, I AGREE THE DENIAL. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE A COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKES? UM, NO. COMMISSIONER ANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. EIGHT TO TWO. ALL RIGHT. IF WE'RE READY FOR ITEM NUMBER 12, HAVE INFORMATION, HOW COURT CASES DO WE HAVE UP THERE? UM, ARE THESE, OKAY, WE HAVE 12, 13, 16, 19, 20, 22. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND, AND 25. THE 25. AND BEFORE WE START TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD, THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER ANTE HAS TO STEP AWAY, SO HE'LL NOT BE A PART OF THIS CASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. ITEM [12. 20-3279 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700059 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "O-2 AHOD" High Rise Office Airport Hazard Overlay District, "C-3NA AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District and "C-2 CD AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional use for a Construction Trades Contractor Facility to "MF-33 AHOD" Multi-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District on the north 112-feet of the south 231.67-feet of Lot 32 and Lot 34 and the south 113.85-feet of Lot 32 and Lot 34, NCB 11880, located at 538 Everest Street. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2020-11600014). (Justin Malone, Planner 210-207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department).] NUMBER 12 IS THE REQUEST TO READ THEM FROM OH TWO A H O V C THREE AND A H O V AND C TWO CD A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADE CONTRACTORS TO MF 33, LOCATED AT 5 38 EVEREST STREET. THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, MEN IN OPPOSITION, ONE RECEIVED OUTSIDE IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. 24 IN OPPOSITION RECEIVED OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA. NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. HOWEVER, UM, THE OAK PARK NORTHWOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. STAFF DOES NOT FIND THE FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON RY LANDS. IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS. THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES ARE MF 50 AND MS 33. THE PROPOSED M MS 33 IS ALSO A GOOD TRANSITION BETWEEN THE R FIVE ZONING ZONING AND USES TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT SITE. AND THE C THREE ZONING TO THE SOUTH STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT? JEFF, ARE YOU STILL THERE? YEAH. YES, WE ARE STILL HERE. UH, SO YOU'RE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE ON THIS ITEM? YES, WE ARE. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? UM, YES MA'AM. THERE ARE 33 WRITTEN COMMENTS IF YOU LIKE, BECAUSE THIS ITEM IS GOING TO BE CONTINUED. UH, WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, IF THIS ITEM IS CONTINUED, WE CAN READ THOSE AT THE NEXT MEETING, OR I CAN READ THEM ALL TO YOU NOW. UM, I, I'M SURE THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD AGREE. [03:45:01] LET ME KNOW IF YOU, IF I'M INCORRECT, THAT WE CAN WAIT TILL THE HEARING THAT WE'LL HEAR THE CASE TO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. WELL, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL AND WAIT, WAIT, WE DID, WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, WE HAVE A CALL IN TWO CALL IN AND, OKAY. TWO VOICEMAIL. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR THOSE. I HAVE VICTOR. AND DO, UH, ON THE LINE AS A REMINDER, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. YEAH, THERE'S A LIVESTREAM IS A DELAY. DON'T, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THE LIVE STREAM. UH, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MY NAME IS VICTOR AND, UH, MY ADDRESS IS, UH, THE OWNER OF SOME PROPERTY ON, UH, 6 31 6, UH, 27. UH, UH, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS PROJECT. UH, THIS AREA HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH A LOT OF, UH, CONVERSATION, UH, HOMES IN SANTA, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK. UH, CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT, SIR? CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? PLEASE? GO AHEAD. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS VICTOR AND I PROPERTY OFF SAND LANE, UH, UH, AWAY FROM THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COME AGAINST, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, BECAUSE IT'S, UH, COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO WHAT, UH, IZATION OF THIS AREA IS GOING ON BETWEEN PEAK AND EVEREST. UH, A BLOCK AWAY FROM THIS, UH, THIS PROPOSED PROJECT, THERE ARE OVER 40 HOMES, UH, IN HOMES THAT ARE BEING BUILT OR CURRENTLY BUILT OR BEING BUILT, AND THE PRICE RANGE OF 350,000 TO LITTLE HUNDREDS. UM, THIS PROJECT, UM, IS NOT , UM, SUNSET. UM, IT'S DIRECTLY THE STREETS FROM, UH, I KNEW THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE LAND TOWER, WHICH WE WORKED ON AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT'S RID OF, UH, UH, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS FULL OF CRIME. AND, UH, BUT WHICH ALSO HAD BROUGHT, UH, TOGETHER A LOT OF, UH, S A LOT OF THE, THE RESIDENTS ON SAND ON THE STREET ABOVE THE SAND CAN ASK FOR THE POLICE RECORDS TO TAKE A THING THAT IS GOING ON FOR PEOPLE ABOVE THE, THE, THE WORK. UM, ADDITIONALLY, I, THE STREET FROM THE DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE BUILDING, IT'S, UH, CAR THERE, AND THE ENTRANCE IS GONNA BE ON ES JACKSON ON SUNSET ARROW STREET. IT'S A TWO-WAY STREET, AND IT'S GONNA BE, AND ONLY TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. UH, WE OPPOSE TO IT. WE DON'T THINK, UH, THIS, UH, IS APPROPRIATE SELLING LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. WE WOULD SUPPORT TOWN HOMES OR SINGLE DETACHED HOMES SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, WE DID OR WHAT OTHER DEVELOPERS ARE BUILDING IN THE AREA. UH, ANOTHER CONCERN HAS TO WHAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, THE PRICE RANGE FOR THESE APARTMENTS ARE GONNA BE FROM THE $200. I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF SIMILAR CASE TO THE PRIOR CASE. DOESN'T THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S NOT GOING ON. TWO MINUTES, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. CAN WE, CAN WE REMIND ANY CALLER THAT IT, THEY WOULD, UH, MUTE WHATEVER DEVICE THERE IN THE BACK SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, THE, THE, THE FEEDBACK IS HARD TO, MAKES IT HARD TO HEAR THEM. OKAY. I, YOU'RE ACTUALLY LIVE, THE STREAMING THAT YOU HEAR IN THE BACKGROUND IS YOUR DELAY ON YOUR, ON YOUR DEVICE. SO IF YOU CAN USE THAT. OKAY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE, THE CURRENT CALLER COMM? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? NO. OKAY. I CAN'T HEAR YOU. OKAY. MM-HMM. ? NO, I JUST HAD A GENERAL QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY COMMISSIONERS FOR, UH, WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER? OKAY. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR INPUT, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THE OTHER CALLER COMING RIGHT UP. I HAVE ON THE LINE AS A REMINDER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. KATHY, [03:50:01] I'M REJECTED THIS PROJECT. I'M SORRY, WE CAN'T, I JUST, IS SHE ON SPEAKER BY ANY CHANCE? CAN WE, CAN WE TRY THAT AGAIN? BECAUSE I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING. UM, IF SHE'S ON SPEAKER, SHE COULD, UM, UH, TAKE IT OFF SPEAKER AND CONTINUE TO SPEAK. TRY AGAIN. NO, I'M NOT ON SPEAKER. DOES THAT SOUND BETTER? YES, THAT IS BETTER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, GO AHEAD. UH, YEAH, GO AHEAD. START, START AGAIN WITH YOUR COMMENTS. OKAY. UM, I'M PROTECTING THIS PROJECT JUST FOR THE REASON THAT I'VE BEEN HERE 26 YEARS, UH, RAISING MY TWO DAUGHTERS HERE AND IT'S YOU AND I'M NOT OKAY WITH THE BUILDING COMING LIKE ALMOST ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY HAVE ANOTHER BUILDING ON SUNSET AND WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, UH, A PRETTY DIRECT BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ANOTHER BUILDING WOULD NOT BE OKAY IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE THAT WOULD APPRECIATE MY HOUSE. SO I'M NOT OKAY WITH IT AND I DON'T THINK IT'S OKAY TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, AND ARE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS FOR THE CURRENT CALLER? OKAY, MA'AM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CALLING. WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOUR OKAY CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THAT WAS IT. OKAY. WOULD THE APPLICANT MY TIME TO RESPOND? YES. SO WE ARE REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE ON THE REVIEW OF THIS MATTER UNTIL JULY 7TH, 2020, ATLANTIC PACIFIC COMMUNITIES AND O C I GROUP HAVE DEMONSTRATED A COMMITMENT TO ENHANCING NEIGHBORHOODS AND IMPROVING THE LIVES OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND COLLABORATING WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALREADY DOING SO. AND ALTHOUGH A PUBLIC MEETING WITHHELD ON FEBRUARY 12TH AT ST. ANTHONY DE PAUA CATHOLIC CHURCH TO SHARE OUR PLANS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY NEW CONCERNS AND MISCONCEPTIONS OR MISINFORMATION THAT HAS BEEN SHARED AMONG NEIGHBORS AND BUSINESS OWNERS OVER THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. ADDITIONALLY, WE'VE BEEN MADE AWARE THAT THE ZONING COMMISSIONER FOR DISTRICT ONE WILL BE ABSENT FROM THE JUNE 2ND OR TODAY'S ZONING MEETING. SO WE VALUE THE COMMUNITY SPECIFIC INSIGHT THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE DURING THIS DISCUSSION. AND GIVEN THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS WITHIN DISTRICT ONE FOR THIS REASON AND THE REQUEST OF THE DISTRICT RUN TO THE COUNCIL OFFICE, WE ASK THAT THE CASE BE HEARD ON JULY 7TH WHEN THE COMMISSIONER IS SCHEDULED TO RETURN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. LET ME THANK THE APPLICANT FOR SAYING EVERYTHING I WAS ABOUT TO SAY. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND, UH, DISTRICT ONE STAFF WOULD LIKE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, LISTEN TO WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS ARE AND TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TIME TO TRY TO FIND, UH, SOME RESPONSE TO THOSE CONCERNS. SO WITH THAT, I WOULD, UH, MOTION THAT FOR CONTINUANCE OF THIS ITEM NUMBER, SORRY, 12 TO JULY 7TH. I SECOND IT, JONES. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER GIBBS? OKAY, THIS IS JUST A, UH, THIS IS NOT REALLY COMMENT ABOUT IT, BUT I DID GO BY THE SITE YESTERDAY. I DIDN'T SEE THE, UM, ZONING SIGN THERE. UM, THE STAFF COULD GET BACK OUT. I DIDN'T SEE IT ANYWHERE. I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE GROUND ANYWHERE COULD GET BACK OUT THERE. UM, SO AWARENESS STAYS UP SINCE WE'RE DELAYING THIS, UH, JULY. MR. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. OKAY. MOTION TO CONTINUE. JULY 7TH. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER EZ? YES. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBON? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? [03:55:01] UH, CAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? WE DIDN'T HEAR YOU HIT UNMUTE. YES. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. GO AHEAD. MM-HMM. , TRY AGAIN? YES. OKAY. GOOD. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. AND I SEE MR. BUS. COMMISSIONER, DO YOU WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THIS? VOTE? I'LL OKAY. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. ALL RIGHT. MOTION PASSES. UH, 10 TO ZERO, I MEAN NINE TO ZERO. OKAY. [13. 20-2705 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700071 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2NA MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 9, Block 1, NCB 13519, located at 1602 Callaghan Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] ALL RIGHT. CASE NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO N A HAS LEFT THE CONFERENCE. SORRY, GO AHEAD. ITEM 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO AND A TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. AT 1602 CALLAHAN ROAD, THERE WERE 27 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM COBRA PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF HAS NOT FOUND THE EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH ZONE C TWO AND A, THE PROPOSED REZONING MAINTAINS THE BASE C TWO DISTRICT, BUT REMOVES THE NA KNOCK NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES RESTRICTIONS. IN GENERAL, C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ARE SUITABLE ALONG CORRIDORS AND ACT AS A BUFFER TO EXISTING AND SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL AREAS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. IS THERE, UH, THE APPLICANT PRESENT? OH, I PLEASE TELL THEM ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, MR. RESPONSE. CERTAINLY. UH, IT IS A RESTAURANT FAMILY OWNED RESTAURANT. THE, UH, TENANTS OWN, UH, EIGHT RESTAURANTS OF THE SAME TYPE HERE IN THE CITY. UM, THE, THE, UH, BEER AND WINE PERMIT FOOD, THE BEER AND FOOD PERMIT LIMITS THE SALE OF BEER OR WINE TO 17% OF THEIR TOTAL FOOD SALES. SO, UH, THE FIRST COMPLAINANT I TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO 'EM, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A BAR SLASH RESTAURANT, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT SLASH BAR. THE ALL OF THE TENANTS ARE MAYBE WISHING TO SATISFY THE REQUESTS OF THEIR CUSTOMERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ENJOY MAYBE A, PERHAPS A BEER OR TWO, OR A MARGARITA OR TWO WITH THEIR FOOD. THAT IS IT. UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE LICENSE FROM T A B C IS GONNA LIMIT THEIR SALES OF BEER OR THEIR CONSUMPTION AND SALES TO NO MORE THAN 17% OF THEIR TOTAL SALES. AND THE, I HAVE, UH, SO, UH, SPOKEN TO THE OWNERS AND TO THE TENANTS AND THEY'RE AWARE, UH, ABOUT THE BRAND SHOP WAS. SO IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'RE GONNA HAVE PATRONS THERE THAT ARE GONNA ALLOW TO ORDER ONE BEER AFTER ANOTHER AFTER ANOTHER BECAUSE THEY REALIZE BECAUSE OF THOSE LAWS THAT THEY WERE SUBJECT TO, UM, CIVIL LAWSUITS AND OR CRIMINAL LAWSUITS. SO THE ISSUE ABOUT PEOPLE GOING UNDER AND DRINKING TO TILL THEY FALL ON THE FLOOR, THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN. AND THEY JUST WANT TO SATISFY THE, UH, SOME OF THEIR CUSTOMERS REQUEST TO HAVE A BEER OR TUBE WITH THEIR MEAL. THANK YOU, SIR. IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY ON THE LINE. UM, WE MAY HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND YOU MAY WANT TO RESPOND AFTER WE HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. UM, THERE WAS ONE LETTER RECEIVED. IT READS FROM MICHAEL LOCKEY. MY WIFE FROM ELIA AND I ARE THE OWNERS OF BROME HOMES, L L T, WHICH OWNS A TENANT OCCUPIED SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AT 59 18 [04:00:01] MONICA PLACE. THIS HOME IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE VACANT LOT BETWEEN THE RESTAURANT SEEKING THE ZONING CHANGE AND CAR WASH. OBVIOUSLY, OUR NEIGHBORS WILL BE MORE DIRECTLY AFFECTED AS SOME HOMES ON MONICA PLACE SHARE THAT PROPERTY LINE WITH THE RESTAURANT. WE FEAR THAT IF THE ZONING CHANGE IS ALLOWED, THE VACANT LOT COULD BE REPURPOSED OFFICIALLY, OR O OTHERWISE AS A PARKING LOT FOR THE BAR SLASH RESTAURANT. THE ALCOHOL SALES WOULD LEAD TO MORE LATE NIGHT TRAFFIC, ROWDY BEHAVIOR AND MORE CRIME IN THE AREA, NEITHER OF WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH A SAFE AND COMFORTABLE RESIDENTIAL AREA. FOR THESE REASONS, WE ARE OPPOSED TO GRANTING THE ZONING CHANGE. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, MR. GUZMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND? YES. UH, THAT WAS THE, THE COMPLAINANT THAT I HAD TRIED TO MAKE UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT A BAR, IT'S A RESTAURANT. UH, THE AMOUNT COMPARED TO TOTAL AMOUNT OF SALES IS LIMITED TO 17% ACCORDING TO THE T A B C. UH, THEY CLOSE AT 11 O'CLOCK. UH, THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA LOSE THEIR LICENSE BY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO ORDER ONE BEER OR ONE MARGARITA AFTER ANOTHER. THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THEM ASKING FOR THE ZONING CHANGE. THE ZONING CHANGE IS FOR THEM TO BE GIVEN THE PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ANY OF THEIR PATRONS, UH, WHO DESIRE TO HAVE A BEER MARGARITA WITH THEIR FOOD TO SATISFY THEIR REQUESTS. THEY'RE DOING THIS BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD MANY CUSTOMERS ASK THEM. THEY HAVE, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVE ABOUT EIGHT OR 10 RESTAURANTS AND, AND ONLY ONE, UH, THAT I'M AWARE OF DO THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A BAR IN THE RESTAURANT. AND THAT'S ONE THAT, LET'S SAY FORMER KRISPY CREAM. IT'S, UH, NORTHWEST ROUTE FOUR 10 ACROSS FROM INGRAM MALL. AND EVEN THERE, THEIR, UH, THEIR ALCOHOLIC SALES COMPARED TO TOTAL SALES IS ONLY 20%. AND THIS IS WITH A VERY NICE BAR THERE. SO NO, AT THIS OTHER PLACE ON CALLAHAN, IT'S NOT LIKE THESE FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE ROWDY. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY MUSIC. THERE'S A FAMILY TYPE RESTAURANT. UH, CHILDREN, YOUNG ADULTS GO IN THERE. UH, THAT'S, UH, I, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE COMPLAINANT THINKS THAT THAT'S A BAR AND THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE ROWDY BEHAVIOR. ALL PEOPLE WANT TO DO IS GO IN THERE, EAT PEACEABLY, HAVE A BEER OR TWO AND LEAVE. THAT'S IT. AND IT CLOSES AT 11. I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING IN THERE IN THE EVENINGS. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. GUZMAN, IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY LINE, THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES. YES, THANK YOU. UM, AND ACTUALLY I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. GUZMAN. I DO HAVE SOME CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, HOWEVER, AND, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, C TWO DOES NOT ALLOW A STANDALONE BAR TO OPERATE. YOU NEED SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN ORDER FOR THAT TO, TO OCCUR, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THE BAR IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHT. UM, IN C2. OKAY. SO WE WE'RE NOT IN DANGER OF THAT HAPPENING. AND, AND I DID NOTICE THAT, UM, THERE IS SOME C THREE THAT'S REALLY VERY CLOSE TO THIS, THAT IS C THREE N A. UM, AND SO I'LL, I'LL JUST, UH, I'LL WAIT BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, TO THE APPLICANT, WHICH WOOHOO, I HAVE EATEN THERE. RIGHT, BABE? UM, WHO ARE THE PATRONS? WHO ARE YOU CUSTOMERS THAT GO TO THE RESTAURANT? UH, PEOPLE FROM AROUND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO, SO THEY'RE ALL GONNA BE LOCAL FOLKS? YES. OKAY. AND, UM, THAT I, I, I APOLOGIZE THAT RESTAURANT ON 1602. UM, AND, AND LET ME CLARIFY RIGHT NOW BEFORE WE GET INTO ANY, I, I, I WISH TO AVOID ANY PROBLEMS WITH THIS. UH, FOR SOME REASON WHEN I APPLIED, I MADE THE APPLICATION, THE GENTLEMAN AT THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES PULLED UP, UH, 1602. CALLAHAN GOT THE ACTUAL LEGAL DESCRIPTION IS ON, IS IT HAS A LEGAL DESCRIPTION, BUT IT'S 1 5 0 0 CALLAHAN 1602 WAS GIVEN TO FOR [04:05:01] THE BUSINESS NAME YEARS BACK. AND IT STAYED LIKE THAT. THERE WAS A RE PLAING AND THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM STARTED. UH, WHAT I COULD DETERMINE IS THAT ONE OF THE LOTS FROM THAT RELA WAS CARRIED OVER TO THE NEW, UH, RE PLATTED, UM, PART AND IT CARRIED OVER THE LEGAL OF JUST ONE LOCK DISCREPANCY INTO THE NEW ONE. THAT'S WHY I THINK WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM. BUT IF, IF, IF THE C TWO IS GRANTED, WHICH WE HOPE IT WOULD, IT'S GOING TO REFLECT ON 1602 CALLAHAN, WHICH THERE IS NO 16 16 0 2 CALLAHAN. IT'S 1500 CALLAHAN. WELL, I HAVE TALK TO C P S ABOUT THAT ONE, HOW THEY ADDRESSED IT, BUT YOU MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR FLAT AND ALL ANOTHER, ALL OTHER DEVELOPMENT SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE TO SEE THROUGH THAT ONE. BUT THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. COMMISSIONER S SIPES. ALRIGHT, SO FOR, FOR ZONING CASE ITEM NUMBER 13, I MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL. I'LL SECOND GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER SITE, UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE? ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. MOTION IS TO APPROVE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER WHEAT. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, AYE. AND CHAIRMAN D? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. ALRIGHT, GET READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM. ITEM [16. 20-3493 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700075 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 HS AHOD" Commercial Historic Significant Airport Hazard Overlay District and "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-1 HS AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Historic Significant Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "MF-18" Low Density Multi-Family District and "NC" Neighborhood Commercial District and "IDZ-1 AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "MF-18" Low Density Multi-Family District and "NC" Neighborhood Commercial District on Lot 15, Lot 16, Lot 21, Lot 22, Block 10, NCB 306, located at 303 El Paso Street and 717 Pecos La Trinidad. Staff recommends Approval. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] NUMBER SIX. YES. ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO H S A H O V AND C TWO A H O V TO I D D ONE H S A A A O B WITH USE IS PERMITTED IN MF 18 AND NC AND I E D ONE A H WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 18 AND NC LOCATED AT 3 0 3 EL PASO STREET AND SEVEN 17 PECOS LAS. THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED SEVEN WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO RESPONSE FROM THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND ONE NOTICE WAS RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET THAT IS IN OPPOSITION. THE CURRENT C TWO DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY TO CHOICE NEXT TO AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY AND WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN REGION. THE REQUESTED I D V ONE IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA AS IT ALLOWS FOR BETTER UTILIZATION OF THE DOWNTOWN ENZO PROPERTY WITH A MIX OF USES AND REDUCED PARKING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND A NUMBER OF THE COMMENTS THAT ARE RECEIVED BY A VOICEMAIL ARE FOR A CONTINUANCE FROM THE REST OF, FROM THE WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE BECAUSE THEY WANNA WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER MORE. SO WE CAN PLAY ALL OF THOSE WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. BUT WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE. YES. MAY WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, PLEASE? MR. MARTINEZ, GO AHEAD. SURE. UM, THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS WALTER MARTINEZ AND I, MY ADDRESS IS THREE THREE EL PAO, 3 2 0 8, UH, 7 8 2 0 7. UM, I'M REPRESENTING THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL THAT IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. UH, WE'VE BEEN LOCATED AT THIS LOCATION, UH, FOR OVER 25 YEARS. WE, UH, OPERATE A SMALL BUSINESS PARK AND, UH, ON THE 300 BLOCK OF EL PASO AT THIS PROPERTY. AND, UH, SIX [04:10:01] ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE OUR REQUEST FOR, UH, ZONING CHANGE IS TO BE ABLE TO ADD, UM, RESIDENTIAL. UH, WE WANT TO KEEP OFFICE, WE WANT TO KEEP OPERATING THE BUSINESS PART, BUT BE ABLE TO HAVE, UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, RESIDENTIAL ON THE PROPERTY. UH, I SUBMITTED THE, A PACKET TO THE STAFF AND, UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING, UM, AT THREE THREE EL PASO. WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD A SECOND STORY TO THAT CORNER, BUILDING THAT BROWN BRICK BUILDING. UH, THOSE, THESE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES WE MANAGE AND WHAT WE WE OWN. BUT, UH, BASICALLY WE'RE, WE WANT TO PROPOSE TO ADD A SECOND STORY TO THAT CORNER BUILDING 3 0 3 EL PASO, AND THEN CONVERT IT TO RESIDENTIAL. FOUR APARTMENTS ON THE SECOND FLOOR AND FOUR APARTMENTS ON THE FIRST FLOOR. UM, THAT'S THIRD SITE PLAN. THE CORNER BUILDING IS RIGHT THERE ON THE CORNER. WE ALSO OWN THE BUILDING, THE TWO STRUCTURES BEHIND IT, UH, AND TWO, TWO, UM, THAT ALSO ARE OFFICES AND PART OF OUR BUSINESS PART AND COULD ALSO BE TURNED INTO RESIDENTIAL. WE FIND THAT THERE'S A INCREASING DEMAND FOR RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA, PROBABLY GIVEN TO THE FACT THAT, UH, U T S A IS SO CLOSE. CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. OKAY. I'M SORRY. AND, UH, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, UH, DEMAND FOR HOUSING, WE FELT IT WAS, UH, IT WOULD BE WISE TO TRY TO ADD HOUSING TO OUR, UH, LOCALE. UM, PERHAPS THEY HAVE A, THE STAFF WOULD HAVE A, UH, THE, UH, PHOTOGRAPH THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED TO THE STAFF THAT WOULD SHOW THE PROPOSED SECOND STORY ON THE FIRST FLOOR. I'M NOT SURE IF STAFF CAN ADD THAT ON THERE. YES, SIR. WE'RE DISPLAYING IT ON THE SCREEN. YOU MAY HAVE A DELAY IF YOU'RE WATCHING ONLINE. I GOT YOU. OKAY. YEAH, THERE'S A DELAY. SO THERE'S A, YOU CAN, IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT THERE, THAT'S THE PROPOSED SECOND STORY. NOW, THIS IS PRELIMINARY. WE HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH FULL DESIGN. UH, WE ALSO HAVE PLANS TO, UH, WELL, WE'RE REQUIRED TO, UM, UH, ALSO SUBMIT THIS TO, UM, HISTORIC REVIEW. SO WE'RE PLANNING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND WE DO, WE, WE BARELY REACHED OUT TO THE WEBSITE HISTORIC GROUP AND I HAVE NOT MADE CONTACT WITH 'EM YET, BUT WE'RE HOPING TO, UM, FOLLOW UP AND DO MAKE CONTACT WITH 'EM. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE GLAD TO TRY TO ANSWER. WE MIGHT, UM, IF YOU'LL STAY ON THE LINE, UM, ALSO YOU'LL HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND IF YOU'D LIKE TO AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH YOU'RE READY FOR NOW. YES, PLEASE HAVE ANY OF YESH. I'M WITH THE HISTORIC WEST WEBSITE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION. I'M CO-CHAIR. I RESIDED 1635. PHOTO C I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW ABOUT CASE NUMBER, UM, 0 0 7 5, WHICH IS A CASE NUMBER 4 3 0 3 EL PASO STREET AND SEVEN 17 . WE WANNA REQUEST A DELAY. UH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY INFORMATION ON THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE. UM, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH IT BECAUSE THERE ARE COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON WITH THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE. UM, SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE A DELAY SO WE CAN COLLECT ALL OUR, OUR, UM, INFORMATION TOGETHER. AGAIN, UH, THIS IS ZONING CASE, UM, 1 0 7 0 0 0 7 5. UH, AND IT, AGAIN, THIS IS WITH A HISTORIC WEST RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 865-0808, UH, ONE NINE. UH, WE REQUESTING A DELAY. UH, 4 3 0 3 EL PASO STREET AND 10 17. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, HI, MY NAME IS AMY . I'M A MEMBER OF THE NORTHWEST SOUTH NCE ASSOCIATION. I LIVE AT COLUMBIA SEVEN 18 , AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE, UM, PROPERTIES AT PEDIATRIC ELSO AND, AND, UM, SEVEN 17 APRIL . AND THE LAST FEW NUMBERS OF THE, UM, CASE NUMBER IS 0 7 5 AND I KNOW THAT THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH THE DEVELOPER [04:15:02] OF THESE PROPERTIES. AND WE ASKED, I ASKED AND CALLED TO ASK THAT THE, UM, CASE BE RELATED TO LACK OF THESE, UH, CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE GRO ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS IMA HOFFMAN. I AM A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC WESTSIDE RE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION. MY ADDRESS IS 30 11 WHITE HILL DRIVE AND, UM, I AM CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THE ZONING CASE 20 DASH 3 4 9 3, WHICH IS LOCATED IN AND ELSO. WE ASK THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION, UM, PLEASE PLACE A DELAY ON MAKING A DECISION BECAUSE NUMEROUS COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE REQUESTING TO MEET WITH THE PERSONS THAT ARE REQUESTING THIS ZONING CHANGE. WE NEED TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE PLANS AND THE IMPACTS THAT THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD HAVE IN OUR IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOODS OF THIS HISTORIC AREA. WE ARE VERY OPEN TO MEETING WITH THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, WANT THIS ZONING CHANGE AND HOPEFULLY THAT WE CAN COME TO A HARMONIOUS AGREEMENT FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AGAIN, WE ASK FOR THE ZONING COMMISSION TO PLEASE PLACE A DELAY UNTIL WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ALL MEET AND, UH, GATHER FOR THE GREATER GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BYE-BYE. HELLO, MY NAME IS GARCIA LOS SANCHEZ AND I'M AN ASSOCIATE MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENT RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION. MY ADDRESS IS 27 18 MONTE SAN ANTONIO, SEVEN EIGHT TWO OH SEVEN, AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 621-8148. YESTERDAY AT ABOUT 5:30 PM I RECEIVED A CALL FROM A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC WESTSIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION STATING THAT SHE HAD JUST LEARNED ABOUT THE ZONING CASE. THIS ZONING CASE IS, UH, NUMBER Z DASH 29 DASH 0 7 0 0 0 75. SHE WAS CONCERNED SHE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROJECT, HAD NOT RECEIVED NOTICE, AND DID NOT KNOW HOW TO ACCESS INFORMATION REGARDING THIS CASE. I WAS ABLE TO WALK HER THROUGH THE CITY'S WEBSITE. HOWEVER, NEITHER OF US NOR THE HISTORIC WEST RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE AREA AT ANY ENGAGEMENT WITH WALTER MARTINEZ, THE DEVELOPER. I REQUEST THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION ALLOW FOR A DELAY ON THIS VOTE UNTIL MR. MARTINEZ HAS SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DISCUSS, LEARN, AND RESPOND TO THE SAID DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND WE HOPE THAT YOU SUPPORT AN EXTENSION OF TIME TO ENGAGE RESPECTFULLY WITH THE DEVELOPER. YES. YES. HELLO, MY NAME IS TIA SANCHEZ AND I'M THE CO-CHAIR PERSON OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENT ASSOCIATION. MY ADDRESS IS 17 10 0 CRUZ ZIP CODE SEVEN EIGHT TWO OH SEVEN. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 363-5895. I'M CALLING ABOUT THE PROPERTY AT 3 0 3 ELSO AND SEVEN 17. CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 2019 DASH 1 0 7 0 7 5. OUR ASSOCIATION IS REQUESTING A DELAY OR CONTINUANCE OF THIS CASE TO ALLOW US TIME TO MEET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS SO THAT WE MAY DISCUSS THEIR PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY. OUR ASSOCIATION RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF THIS ZONING CASE ON MAY 26TH, WHICH WAS ONE WEEK PRIOR TO TODAY'S HEARING. THIS DID NOT PROVIDE US WITH SUFFICIENT TIME TO REACH OUT AND DISCUSS A PROPOSED REQUEST, SO WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR REQUEST TO RESCHEDULE THIS HEARING FOR A LATER DATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOODBYE. THIS IS VICTOR 25 0 5 SAUNDERS AND A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC WESTSIDE BUSINESS ASSOCIATION. I AM CALLING REGARDING 3 4 9 3 K AND I'M ASKING THAT IT BE DELAYED UNTIL THERE IS MORE INPUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND NEIGHBORS SURROUNDING THIS, UH, PLACE THAT WANTS TO BE REZONED. OKAY. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS NATALIE G**O. I RESIDE AT 1220 6,000. MY NUMBER 2 1 0 6 4 3 5 8 6 4. AND I'M CALLING ON REQUESTING A DELAY ON, [04:20:01] UH, CASE TWO ZERO DASH 3 4 9 3. THANKS. BYE. HELLO, MY NAME IS KETA RODRIGUEZ. I LIVE AT THREE OH THREE FIVE ZERO. I'M, UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (512) 516-0035 AND I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 0 7 5. UM, AS I MENTIONED, I'M A, A RESIDENT OF THE, UH, EAST SEVENTH NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALSO A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE. I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR A DELAY OF THE VOTE. UM, UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMUNITY HERE HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE PLAN, UM, THAT THE PLANS ARE, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AND, UM, AS SOMEONE WHO IS AN ADVOCATE OF COMMUNITY AND SOMEONE THAT BELIEVES IN COMMUNITY INPUT, WHERE THE COMMUNITY, UM, NEEDS SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE OWNER AND TO, YOU KNOW, GATHER ALL OF THE INFORMATION TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE OF THIS ZONING CHANGE AND, UM, TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE COMMUNITY SUPPORTS. UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO COVID 19, UM, THE HISTORIC WESTSIDE RESIDENCE LOCATION HAS NOT BEEN NEEDED AND WE HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS. THE OWNER HAS ALSO NOT REACHED OUT TO ANYBODY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AND WE HAVE A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, SITTING THAT SURROUNDS A PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UM, WHICH MOST PEOPLE ARE UNAWARE OF, OF THE ZONING CHANGE AND A GOOD LOCATION. SO WE JUST SENT THE REQUEST A DELAY IN THE VOTE SO THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO ADEQUATELY INFORM OUR NEIGHBORS AND, UM, DISCUSS OUR SUPPORT AND OUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. HI, TERRY GUILLO 5 21 41. UM, I'M CALLING REGARDING CASE NUMBER 1 93 AND UH, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT THERE'S A DELAY ON THIS CASE. SO COMMUNITY, UM, MEMBERS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CAN GIVEN ANY GIVEN TIME TO MEET AND DISCUSS, UH, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN HERE. THANK YOU. WE ARE PATCHING THROUGH A LIGHT COLOR. OKAY, MR. RAY. MR. RAY MORALES, GO AHEAD. I HAVE, I HAVE RAY MORALES ON THE LINE. AS A REMINDER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. OKAY. THIS IS RAY . I, UH, OWN THE PROPERTY AT, AND I'M CALLING ABOUT THE REQUEST. SO CHANGE, UH, INCREASE FOR VERY SMALL AREA AND THE REQUEST FOR THIS FOR A HIGHER DENSITY AND LESS RESTRICTIVE USE THAN WHAT THE CREDIT APPLICANT HAS PLANNED FOR. THE REQUEST IS GRANTED FOR FUTURE USE. IT WILL MAKE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY HASN'T, AND, AND, UH, IT, UH, THIS, UH, REQUEST, UH, ADDITIONAL ADJACENT, UH, SINGLE FAMILY CHARACTER OF BEHIND MY CONCERNS WITH ADVERSE IMPACT SAFETY CURRENT RESIDENT AND CHILDREN COULD USE THAT CONCEPT ADJACENT SITE. UH, THE REQUEST INCLUDES MS 18 AND NC FOR USES, UH, MS 1818 UNITS FOR PAPER DENSITY. THIS SITE IS LESS AND HALF AN ACRE, UH, WHICH STARTED BUILDING ALREADY LOCATED ON 13 UNITS FOR, UH, FOR THE DISTRICT ALLOWS RESTAURANTS, UH, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, HOMEBOUND RECEPTION, ALTHOUGH REQUEST USE FOR THAT USE IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVE CHURCHES NEARBY, ONE WITHIN 50. WE HAVE HAVE AN ACADEMY, UH, A SCHOOL FOR CHILDREN 15 TO 25. UH, AND SO I FEEL THAT, UH, ANOTHER, UH, DESIGNATION WOULD BE MORE, UH, BY THAT POINT AND THAT THE APPLICATION WAS VERY CONFUSING IN I TWO. UH, AND ON THE WRITTEN APPLICATION, IT, UH, INDICATES I THE APPLICATION CURRENT GT THE UNIFORM CODE, THE [04:25:01] DESTINATION. SO AT, AT THE VERY, UH, WE SHOULD, THIS APPLICANT SHOULD BE DENIED AND DISCUSS. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED CHANGES, BUT WE THANK MUCH THANK. GO AHEAD AND HOLD ON THE LINE IN CASE I HAVE QUESTIONS. I THINK HE HUNG UP. DID HE HANG UP? HE'S THERE. OH, DID HE HANG UP? OH YEAH, HE DID HANG UP. IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO. YES, YES. I HAVE ONE LETTER TO READ FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY. THE CONSERVATION OF THE SOCIETY OPPOSES THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 3 0 3 EL PASO. THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM C2 HFS, A HD TO I D D ONE HFS, A H O D WILL ALLOW RESIDENTIAL UNITS TO BE ADDED TO A ONE STORY HISTORIC COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THE PROPOSAL SHOWS THAT ADDING THESE RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE ACCOMPLISHED BY CONSTRUCTING A SECOND STORY ON THE BUILDING. A SECOND STORY ADDITION TO THE SIMPLE HISTORIC COMMERCIAL BUILDING WOULD HAVE NEGATIVE VISUAL IMPACT, COMPROMISING ITS HISTORIC INTEGRITY. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED. PATTY ZION, PRESIDENT CONSERVATION SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MA'AM. THANK YOU MR. MARTINEZ. WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? UH, VERY BRIEFLY. UM, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, WE HAVE, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANY CONTACT WITH THE, UM, WESTSIDE HISPANIC, UH, ORGANIZATION. UH, WASN'T SURE WHO TO CONTACT, BUT I HAVE NO PROBLEM MEETING WITH 'EM. UH, AND, UH, THE COMMISSION WANTS TO DELAY THIS, THAT, THAT'S FINE WITH US. UH, REGARDING THE QUESTION OF ONE GENTLEMAN WHO HAPPENS TO BE OUR NEIGHBOR, UM, WHERE HE MENTIONED, I THINK THERE'S CONFUSION WHERE HE MENTIONED THAT, UH, IT WOULD ALLOW RESTAURANT, UM, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE. YOU SAID SOME, UM, SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. UM, IT ACTUALLY IS A DOWN ZONE FROM WE'RE REQUESTING THE DOWN ZONE FROM C TWO TO NC, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY, UH, ELIMINATE, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW UNDER C TWO, WE CAN EAT, WE CAN, WE CAN OPEN A, A LIQUOR STORE THERE. WELL, IT WOULD ELIMINATE THAT. SO ALL, ALL WE WANNA DO IS CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE OFFICES AS WE'VE BEEN THERE, AS, AS WE'VE OPERATED FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS AND ADD SOME RESIDENTIAL, UM, THE, IN TERMS OF DENSITY, UM, HE MAY NOT KNOW OUR PLANS EITHER BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT WITH HIM. UH, HE OWNS A HOUSE NEXT DOOR, BUT HE DOESN'T LIVE THERE. I'M NOT SURE WHERE, WHERE, WHERE HE LIVES OR HOW I CAN REACH HIM. UM, BUT, UM, OUR PROPOSAL IS TO ADD FOUR NEW APARTMENTS ON THE SECOND STORY THAT WE COULD CONSTRUCT ON THE CORNER, BUILDING FOUR APARTMENTS ON THE BOTTOM ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEN ON THE TWO ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES THERE WOULD BE TWO, UH, APARTMENTS IN ONE AND ONE ON THE OTHER. SO THERE WILL BE A TOTAL OF 11, UM, 11 RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND WE HAVE CURRENTLY 11 RESIDENTIAL, I, I MEAN 11 PARKING SPACES. UM, I'LL BE OPEN TO QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR. COMMISSIONER ANTE. THANK YOU. UM, SINCE THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT HE WOULD BE OPEN TO A CONTINUANCE AND I THINK EVEN THE PERSON WHO HAS SPOKEN IN OPPOSITION HAS INDICATED THAT HE WOULD LIKE A CONTINUANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNLESS OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, I'D BE WILLING TO MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH RIGHT NOW. AND SO MOVE SECOND ROMERO. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? C NONE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER ? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMMISSIONER, UH, AS CHAIRMAN? YES. MOTION PASSES. [04:30:02] SO YOU WANT A BREAK NOW OR AFTER THIS CASE, MADAM? SURE. I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA EXCUSE MYSELF. IT'S MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN MARRIED. , THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TODAY. COMMISSIONER BUS, WE ? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONERS, UM, DO YOU WANNA KEEP GOING OR JUST BE A BREAK? UH, PROBABLY LIKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK IF GO WITH MY DOG. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. IT IS CURRENTLY 5:30 PM WE WILL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. WE WILL MUTE OUR CAMERAS AND OUR MICROPHONES AND COME BACK FIVE THIRTY FIVE ISH. OKAY. UM, WE JUST GETTING THE THUMBS UP FROM OUR A D GUY FIRST BEFORE WE START. OKAY. OKAY. WE GOT THE THUMBS UP. GO AHEAD. WONDERFUL. IT IS CURRENTLY 5 36 AND WE ARE COMING BACK FROM BREAK AND COMMENCING RE COMMENCING THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING FOR TODAY. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR. NOW ON ITEM NUMBER 19. [19. 20-3309 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700078 CD (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3NA AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2NA CD AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Construction Trades Contractors on 1.514 acres out of NCB 17365, located at 14726 Bulverde Road. Staff recommends Approval with a Condition. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C3 NA A H O V, THE C2 CD A H O V WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR AT 1 4 7 2 6 BULVERDE ROAD. THERE WERE 36 NOTICES MAILED THREE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. FOUR RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION AND I THINK WE DID GET A RESPONSE FROM BREAR WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. NO, WE DID NOT. I, I THOUGHT THEY MIGHT BE ON THE LINE BUT WE DID NOT GET A RESPONSE FROM BREAR WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE EXISTING C THREE AND A BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO CONSTITUTES A DOWN ZONING OF A MORE INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT AND IS MORE APPROPRIATE ABIDING RESIDENTIAL USE USES AND ZONING. SHOULD COUNCIL PROVE STAFF RECOMMENDS A CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT MAINTAIN A 15 FOOT TYPE B LANDSCAPE BUFFER ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND LAND USES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE? ASHLEY, ARE YOU THERE? EMILY, ARE YOU THERE? IT'S EMILY. YES, YES. GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 100 NORTHEAST ROUTE FOUR 10, SUITE SIX 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER AND APPLICANT. UM, JUST ONE QUICK NOTE. OUR REQUEST IS TO C TWO CD WITH D N A STILL IN THERE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT REMOVING THE NA DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY. AS STAFF MENTIONED THAT I BELIEVE THEY'LL BE PULLING UP THE PRESENTATION IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY. UM, THE CASE BEFORE YOU IS A REZONING TO REDUCE THE OVERALL INTENSITY OF THE ZONING ON THE PROPERTY AND ALLOW FOR A CONSTRUCTION TRADE CONTRACTOR BEING AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING BORDER CONSTRUCTION SERVICES OPERATIONS. THIS REQUEST IS PART OF A LARGER EFFORT TO CLEAN UP THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BOTH PHYSICALLY AS WELL AS THIS DOMAIN. UH, SLIDE TWO PLEASE. WE'RE THERE ASHLEY, ARE YOU GUYS? OKAY. UM, ON SLIDE TWO SHOWS, UM, AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS APPROXIMATELY UH, ONE AND A HALF ACRES LOCATED OFF BULL VERDE ROAD BETWEEN STALL AND JUNG. UM, THIS IS NORTH OF THOUSAND OAKS, THE SOUTH OF 1604. KIND OF SITUATED BETWEEN THOSE TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES. UH, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS IMAGE, THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF VARIED SURROUNDING USES RANGING FROM INDUSTRIAL TO COMMERCIAL TO SINGLE FAMILY. WHILE THE BRIAR WHITE COMMUNITY IS ADJACENT TO US, THIS AREA HAS BEEN INDUSTRIALLY OR USED FOR HIGH INTENSITY ZONING USES FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND OVERALL THEY'RE AN AMALGAMATION OF USE IS GOING ON. UM, UP AND DOWN THE VERDE CORRIDOR, THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY BOUGHT BY THE OWNER AND ZONE INDUSTRIAL, BUT THIS PIECE IS C THREE AND A. WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED FOUR YEARS AGO, THERE WERE SIGNIFICANT CODE VIOLATIONS ALREADY EXISTING. THEY'VE BEEN THERE, HAD BEEN THERE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. UM, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN BEEN CLEANED UP AND RESOLVED. THE NEXT STEP IS REZONING THIS PIECE, THE C THREE AND A, UM, TO A MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING DISTRICT BY REDUCING THE OVERALL INTENSITY. UM, AS WE DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STAFF THAT THE C THREE BASED DISTRICT IS MUCH TO INTENT, UM, RIGHT NEXT TO THEIR BOUNDARIES. SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. [04:35:03] UM, MITCH JOE'S, UH, ZOOMED IN VERSION OF THE ZONING MAP. UH, THIS PROPERTY WAS IN PART OF A LARGER SET OF INDUSTRIAL USES IN PROPERTY WHILE IT WAS IN THE COUNTY. UM, AND SINCE BEING ANNEXED IN THE CITY IN 1995 WHEN IT WAS ZONED B THREE A, THE BASE B THREE A DISTRICTS INCLUDE USES SUCH AS MARINE AND FARM EQUIPMENT, SALES, WELDING AND MACHINE SHOPS, AND MOST LY CON CONTRACTOR FACILITIES. THE ZONING TWO C THREE CONVERTED TO C THREE A WITH THE ADOPTION OF THE 2001 U D C, WHICH CAME WITH A REVAMP OF PERMITTED USES. WHILE THE TRANSITION FROM I ONE TO C THREE AND A AS YOU GO ALONG, VERDE IS APPROPRIATE AND CONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS, WE DO AGREE THAT C THREE AND A IS JUST MUCH TOO INTENSE AND ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING R SIX. SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO REZONE TO C TWO N A C D WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR. AND PER THE REQUEST OF BRIAR WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH ARE OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH, UM, WE HAVE AGREED TO LEAVE THAT NA DESIGNATION INTACT. ALCOHOL SALES WOULD NOT BE THEM ON THIS PROPERTY, BUT WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LEAVE THAT ON THERE AS AN EXTRA PROTECTION FOR THE ABUTTING COMMUNITY. SLIDE FOUR PLEASE. THIS SLIDE SHOWS A LARGER OVERALL VIEW OF THE ZONING IN THE AREA WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED THE GLASS TOWARDS THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE SCREEN. AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INTENSE USES PERMITTED AND INCURRING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. A LOT OF I ONE, A LOT OF C THREE, UM, KIND OF SANDWICHED BETWEEN THESE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES. WHILE THERE IS NOT C TWO IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, WE FEEL AS WE HOPE THAT YOU ALL DO THAT THIS 3 BILLION INCREASE IN MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE AND SPECIFIC USE FOR THE PROPERTY THAN THE OVERALL C THREE ALLOWS. BECAUSE C THREE ALLOWS FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF USES, MANY OF WHICH ARE VERY, VERY INTENSE, UM, EVEN WITH D N A DESIGNATION, SO A C TWO IS MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY. SLIDE FIVE PLEASE. SO BORDER CONSTRUCTION, UM, IS THE EXISTING, UH, PROPERTY OWNER AND OPERATION ON THIS OVERALL SITE. UM, THEY SPECIALIZE IN LAND CLEARING, COMMERCIAL SENSING, RETAINING WALLS FOR VARIOUS TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT. THEY'RE LOCALLY OWNED AND OPERATED, UM, AND IT'S BEEN DOING SO FOR QUITE SOME TIME. HOWEVER, ALL OF THEIR WORK IS PERFORMED OFFSITE. SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, THEIR VERDE LOCATION IS JUST A HOME BASE FOR MANAGEMENT EQUIPMENT, MATERIALS AND ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS. AS THE WORK IS ACTUALLY PERFORMED AT DIFFERENT JOB SITES, SO THEY COME AND GO FROM THE PROPERTY. THEY ARE BY DEFINITION A CONSTRUCTION TRADE CONTRACTOR INCLUDING WHERE THEY WORK, UM, HOW THEIR WORK IS DONE AND BY NOTED IN THE CONSTRUCTION. TRADE CONTRACTOR DEFINITION INCLUDES THE USE OF STORAGE AND EQUIPMENT FOR TOOLS, MATERIALS, HEAVY EQUIPMENT SERVICE VEHICLES. UM, WE WILL OF COURSE, UH, COMPLY WITH ALL THE APPLICABLE CODE REQUIREMENTS AND WE DO ACCEPT STAFF CONDITIONS FOR THE REQUIRED 15 FOOT BUFFER. THE PROPOSED RE ZONING REMOVES THE OTHERWISE PERMITTED USES UNDER C THREE OR C THREE AND A AND APPLIES A BASE ZONING THAT IS MUCH MORE OR LESS, MUCH LESS INTENSE THAN WAS CURRENTLY PERMITTED. AND THAT CONDITIONAL USE PROVIDES A MUCH MORE SPECIFIC DESIGNATION FOR WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING ON THE PROPERTY. SLIDE SIX PLEASE. THIS IS OUR CONDITIONAL USE SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT WILL BE USED FOR THE STORAGE OF MATERIALS, EQUIPMENT AND VEHICLES ASSOCIATED WITH CONSTRUCTION. THERE IS, AGAIN, NOT ANY FABRICATION OR REALLY WORK, UM, CONSTRUCTION WORK THAT HAPPENS ON THIS SITE. UM, IT'S SIMPLY UTILIZING IT FOR STORAGE OF MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT. THE CONDITIONAL USE DOES REQUIRE SCREENING FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE AND THAT WILL BE PROVIDED. THE GRAY DASH LINE SHOWS THE INGRESS AND EGRESS IS EXISTING THAT, UH, PROVIDES ACCESS FROM VERDE ONTO THIS SITE. SO, UH, THE WORKERS CAN COME IN, THEY DRIVE STRAIGHT IN OFF VERDE, THEY CAN PARK EQUIPMENT, UNLOAD, RELOAD, AND LEAVE, UM, WITHOUT MAKING TOO MUCH NOISE. UH, BORDER CONSTRUCTION DOES OPERATE ON NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS WITH THE SMALL EXCEPTION FOR SLIGHTLY EARLY MORNINGS OR LATER EVENINGS IF TRAVELED TO AND FROM A WORK SITE IS LIKELY BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THEY DO TRAVEL TO THEIR WORK SITE. SO WE HAVE ADDITIONALLY OFFERED BRIAR WITH TO MAKE, UM, A RESTRICTED HOURS OF OPERATION A CONDITION OF THIS FREE ZONING. UM, THOSE HOURS WOULD BE 6:00 AM TO 8:00 PM UM, BUT NOTHING ELSE HAPPENING IN BETWEEN. UM, BUT THAT 6:00 AM AND 8:00 PM JUST ALLOWS FOR THE RARE OCCASION WHEN THEY HAVE A JOB SITE THAT'S [04:40:01] FURTHER AWAY AND THEY NEED TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY EARLIER, BUT NOTHING CERTAINLY HAPPENING IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE MORNING OR LATE IN THE EVENING. IN ADDITION TO THE NA DESIGNATION, RESTRICTING NOISE HAS BEEN A CONCERN PARTIALLY STEMMING FROM ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING ON ANOTHER INDUSTRIAL SITE SOUTH OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, BUT BREYER WICK HAS YET TO CONFIRM OR DENY IF THEY WOULD LIKE THE RESTRICTED HOURS, UM, AS THE CONDITION OF THE REZONING OR IF THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, OTHER HOURS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE. OF COURSE THERE IS ALSO THE TYPE B 15 FOOT BUFFER REQUIRED AND WE DO ACCEPT THAT CONDITION. WE'LL BE PROVIDING THAT. SLIDE SEVEN PLEASE. THE PROPOSED REZONING IS A REDUCTION IN THE OVERALL ZONING INTENTION DATE, WHICH I'VE MENTIONED MULTIPLE TIMES HAS ALLOWED FOR MUCH LESS THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PERMITTED ON THE SITE. WE HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH BRIAR WITH THROUGH THEIR PRESIDENT SINCE EARLY MARCH. UM, WHEN WE FILED THIS APPLICATION ABOUT A WEEK LATER, CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC HIT AND SO, UM, PHONE AND EMAIL HAVE BEEN OUR REALLY ONLY SOURCE OF COMMUNICATION, BUT WE'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THEM SINCE MARCH. UM, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEIR ORGANIZATION, UM, AND THEIR MEMBERS ON ANY CONCERNS. UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT SEVERAL OF THOSE CONCERNS DO STEM FROM THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY THAT I MENTIONED, WHICH IS LONE STAR PAVING. UM, THE COMMUNITY HAS HAD AN ONSLAUGHT OF MACHINERY AND TRAFFIC INCLUDING 18 WHEELERS AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT HAPPENING ON THIS FACILITY. UM, AND WE UNDERSTAND THEIR HESITATION AND THEIR CONCERNS THAT ARE STEMMING FROM THAT ISSUE. SO WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THE REZONING REQUEST AND ANY CONCERNS OR REQUESTS THAT THEY MAY HAVE, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO ALSO SEVERAL RESIDENTS THAT I EXPECT CONCERN. UM, BUT WE HAVE, HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM THEM. SO WE WILL BE CONTINUING TO DO NECESSARY OUTREACH, UM, WITH THIS COMMUNITY AND OUR NEIGHBORS. ONE IMPORTANT PART OF THIS REQUEST, UM, ALSO INCLUDES THE LAND USE PLAN. THIS IS WITHIN THE SANITARY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT VICINITY PLAN AND THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. SO THE EXISTING BASED ZONING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN DESIGNATION. THE PROPOSED C TWO BASED ZONING IS IN FACT CONSISTENT AND COMPATIBLE WITH THAT ADOPTED LAND USE DESIGNATION. SO ULTIMATELY, UM, IN ADDITION TO REDUCING THE INTENSITY, IT ALSO BRINGS THE ZONING INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLAN DESIGNATION. AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE RETAINING THE NA DESIGNATION, WHICH WAS A REQUEST MADE BY BRIAR WICK. UM, WE DEFINITELY AGREE AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR REQUEST TO RESTRICT ALCOHOL SALES ON THIS PROPERTY, UM, THAT IS ADJACENT TO THEIR FENCE LINE. UM, AND THIS WAS MADE BY BRIAR WICK AND WE HAVE AGREED TO LEAVE IT IN PLACE. SO, UM, BUT IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER REQUESTS, UM, WE ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DISCUSS WITH BREAR WICK AND THE RESIDENTS. UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO BE. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH A CONDITION TO MAINTAIN THAT 15 CODE TYPE E LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH IS REQUIRED ADJACENT, UH, TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND UH, COMMERCIAL LAND USES. SO WE DEFINITELY ACCEPT THAT CONDITION. UM, AND RESPECTFULLY JUST REQUEST A BRIEF MINUTE FOR REBUTTAL FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. UH, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. I'LL BEGIN TO READ THE LETTERS. JEFFREY AND TABITHA , RIGHT THAT WE AS THE COMMUNITY ARE TROUBLED ABOUT THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGES. MOVING RIGHT UP TO OUR NEIGHBOR'S FENCE WITH NO SOUND PROTECTION. HERE ARE OUR QUESTIONS. WHAT WILL BE DONE WITH THE EXTRA NOISE THAT WILL BE EXCESSIVE? WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY IS ALLOWED TO MOVE TO STALL AND JUNG AND FLOOD OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LOUD BANGS AND DISRUPTION. HOW WILL THIS AFFECT OUR PROPERTY TAXES FOR THE NEXT YEARS? AS COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ARE NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE ON BOTH SIDES OF OUR QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS, WHAT BENEFIT WILL THIS COMPANY BE AND SENSITIVE TO NEIGHBORS THAT THEIR VERY OWN FENCE WILL CREATE A PARKING WALL LINE FOR THEM TO WIND UP THEIR LOUD IN MASSIVE MACHINERY? WILL THEY BE REQUIRED TO BUILD A LARGE TALL WALL TO OUT ABATE THE NOISE? IF AND WHEN THEY DAMAGE OUR FENCES, WILL THEY BE PAID BY WILL? WILL WE BE PAID BY THEM TO SEE FIX? OUR PROPERTY TAXES HAVE ALREADY SKYROCKETED. THIS BUSINESS WILL WREAK HAVOC ON OUR TAXES AND OUR QUIET NEIGHBORHOODS. IT IS QUIET AND NICE PLACE TO LIVE AND WE DO NOT WANT THE NOISE. DEB CHICK WRIGHT, I LIVE AT 39 19 BRIAR HOLLOW. I RECEIVED YOUR ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. [04:45:01] I WRITE TO YOU AN ABSOLUTE OPPOSITION OF THIS REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE. OUR BACKYARD FENCE BACKED UP TO THIS PROPERTY AS INDICATED IN YOUR ENCLOSED MAP. WHEN MY HUSBAND BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN 2007, THERE WAS NOTHING BUT BEAUTIFUL GREEN FOREST OF WILDERNESS BEHIND OUR BACK FENCE. THIS WAS A BIG REASON WHY WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE. LITTLE DID WE KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER PLAN TO LITERALLY LEVEL IT EVER SINCE. IF YOU WILL CHECK THE NUMBER OF CODE COMPLIANCE CALLS, RESEARCH WILL SHOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE PROPERTY. THE COMPLAINTS ARE FOR SEVERAL ISSUES, NOISE LEVEL AND HOURS THAT THE NOISE STARTS AND ENDS. AND THERE'S SOME PICTURES ATTACHED TO THIS EMAIL. EVERYTHING GETS SO DIRTY AND DUST FLOWS BECAUSE THERE ARE NO TREES WITH ALL THE SEMI TRACTOR TRAILERS AND OTHER HEFTY EQUIPMENT CONSTANTLY MOVING THROUGH THERE. THE DIRT BLOWS CONSTANTLY. THE BIG DUMP TRUCK STUFF THAT MAKES HUGE CLOUDS OF DIRT OW INTO OUR BACKYARD. ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRAYS PARK THEIR HEFTY EQUIPMENT THERE, EVEN THOUGH THE PROPERTY IS NOT YET APPROVED TO BE ZONED FOR THIS. AND THEIR HE EQUIPMENT IS AN EYESORE. THEIR ARE PICTURES OF THIS AS WELL. APPARENTLY THERE IS NO EASEMENT THERE AT ALL. I REQUEST AN EASEMENT OF AT LEAST SIX FEET TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS. SO I FINALLY CALLED CODE COMPLIANCE AND THEIR OFFICER ATTENDED ONE OF THE BRIAR WIC NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS. I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT HE MUST GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY TO SEE THE EXTENT OF WHAT KINDS OF EQUIPMENT IS PARKED RIGHT BEHIND OUR BACKYARD FENCES. HE, FOR THE REASONS I CITED, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN LIVING WITH, ARE ALL LOWERING OUR TAX, LOWERING OUR PROPERTY VALUES. A SIX TO NINE FOOT FENCE OR A SCREEN OF SOME SORT THAT I'VE HEARD TALK ABOUT WOULD NOT HIDE SEMI TRACTOR TRAILERS, BULLDOZERS EARTH MOVERS, OLD VIA BUSES, OLD SCHOOL BUSES, A, A TRAVEL TRAILER OR A DEER BLIND OR STOP NOISE OR THE DUST. HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF A BIG BULLDOZER WAS PARKED IN YOUR BACKYARD? THERE MUST BE A PERMANENT PROPERTY TAX CONCESSION FOR ALL OF US THAT ARE CITED ON YOUR MAP IN THE ZONING IF THIS ROAD ZONING REQUEST IS PASSED. AFTER ALL, WE LIVED IN AN AIRPORT HAZARD OVERLAY DISTRICT. SINCERELY, DEB AND GARY. THIS ONE'S FROM AARON ANDERSON AT 39 23 BRIAR HOLLOW. I AM EMAILING MY ZONING COMMISSION RESPONSE FORM. I AM VOTING OPPOSED DUE TO THE CONSTANT NOISE AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT. LARGE VEHICLES PARKED RIGHT BEHIND MY FENCE AND THE DECREASED PROPERTY VALUE WHEN I SELL MY HOUSE. AND 39 15 BRIAR HOLLOW. THIS IS SHERRY . I AM IN ALL POSITION OF THE ZONING CHANGE. THIS COMPANY BACKS RIGHT UP TO MY HOUSE. IT'S HORRIBLE EVERY DAY. IT IS SO LOUD WITH THEIR EQUIPMENT, BIG TRUCKS DRIVING AND PARKING. WE IN FACT NEED TO MAKE CHANGES SO THEY STOP PARKING THEIR EQUIPMENT SO CLOSE TO OUR HOMES. THIS IS NOT A PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THIS COMPANY. IT IS AFFECTING THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE, ANIMALS, PLANTS, AND THE ENVIRONMENT. THEY HAVE CUT TREES DOWN AND CUT TREE BRANCHES. I DON'T WANT TO SEE THEIR MESS. WE WANT OUR PEACE AND QUIET BACK. PLEASE HELP OUR COMMUNITY. SHERRY. UM, ALSO THERE WAS AN EMAIL FROM RAIN TANNER, BUT SHE HAS OPTED TO, UM, CALL IN. SO WE SHOULD HAVE THEM ON THE LINE. BUT FIRST WE'RE DOING VOICEMAIL. SO THIS IS ELIZABETH HAGAN. I LIVE AT THREE NINE THREE FIVE BRIAR HOLLOW. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 842-3337. I'M ONE OF THE HOUSES WHOSE BACKYARD BUT UP TO CONSTRUCTION SITES AREA. AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING THERE OTHER THAN THEY'RE A LITTLE NOISY. BUT IF THEY COULD BUILD, PUT UP A 10 FOOT FENCE, THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE NOISE REDUCTION AND IT WOULD BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. THANK YOU. UM, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A LIVE CALLER THAT'S READY TO GO. UM, MS. TANNER, ARE YOU THERE? I AM. UM, I AM HERE. LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. FIRST, THE CASEWORKER VICTORIA CASTRO GAVE A LONG EMAIL ADDRESS ON THE MAILED OUT ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THERE WAS NO DOT BETWEEN HER NAME AND THEREFORE DID NOT EXPECT MANY EMAIL RESPONSES REGARDING THIS CASE. EVERY TIME MS. CASTRO'S EMAILS, WE RECEIVED AN AUTO REPLY SAYING THAT [04:50:01] SHE FILED THE OFFICE. NONE OF US RECEIVED A RECEIPT THAT SHE ACTUALLY RECEIVED AND OR READ OUR EMAILS REGARDING THE NOISE. NOISE LEVELS AND THE HOURS OF NOISE STARTS AND ENDS WITH ALL THE BUSES. THE OLD SCHOOL BUSES PARKED RIGHT BEHIND RESIDENCE FENCE. THEY WOULD ARRIVE AND LEAVE DURING THE LATE HOURS NIGHT AFTER 10:00 PM AND BEFORE 6:00 AM HAVE EQUIPMENT PARKED RIGHT BEHIND RESIDENCE FENCE UNTIL CODES MADE THEM MOVE RIGHT AWAY. THEY START BIG DIESEL ENGINES BEFORE SUNRISE. THEY LET THEM IDLE HEAVY FUMES PERMEATE NOT ONLY ON BRIAR HOLLOW. I LIVE THE NEXT STREET OVER BRIAR VISTA AND THOSE RESIDENTS CATCH IT TOO. UM, DURING THE DAY THERE ARE LARGE BANGS AT RATTLE RESIDENCE, SOME RESIDENCE WINDOWS, SOMETIMES IT WAS BREAKING UP OF, OF MATERIAL. THIS NOISE ALSO CONTINUES TO DROP LEAKING. AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A TRAVELER TRAILER REPORTED AGAINST THE FENCE WITH HEAVY DUTY ELECTRIC CORD DRAINED OVER IT, MULTIPLE RESIDENCE FENCE. THIS WAS BEING USED TO PLUG IN A GENERATOR PUT UP AGAINST THE FENCE. EQUIPMENT VEHICLE AND TRAILERS ARE WASHED RIGHT BESIDE THE FENCES AND THOSE WORKERS LOOKED RIGHT INTO THE BACKYARD. RESIDENT PERSONALLY, I RECORDED AND SENT THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE SOUNDS OF HEAVY EQUIPMENT BEING MOVED OVER A QUARTER MILE AWAY WITH A HEAVY CROSSWIND. I CANNOT IMAGINE LIVING RIGHT NEXT TO THEM. CODE COMPLIANCE DOES NOT WALK ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY'RE CALLED. THEY FINALLY DID AND ALL THAT EQUIPMENT WAS PROMPTLY MOVED. THE NEXT WEEK, EVEN WHEN THE EQUIPMENT IS LOCATED, RESIDE STILL, SEE, HEAR, AND SMELL THE OPERATION OF SAID VEHICLES. THEY'VE MOVE REMOVED MOST OF THE TREES FROM THE PROPERTY, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, FROM AGAINST THE FENCE, DUST BLOWS INTO THE RESIDENCE, DUMP TRUCKS, TRACTOR TRAILERS, HEAVY EQUIPMENT. OTHER VEHICLES GET THE DUST WHERE THEIR CONSTANT MOVEMENT TO AND BROKE A SIX TO NINE FOOT FENCE IS NOT GOING TO ALLEVIATE THIS ONE YEAR. THERE WAS A DEER BLIND THAT YOU GUYS ALL HEARD, RESIDENTS WERE TOLD THERE WAS NO EASEMENT. THERE. NOT EVEN A UTILITY EASEMENT. FOR THE UTILITIES THAT RUN UNDERGO SMITH AS THE REYER WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE RESIDENTS OF BRE DO NOT SUPPORT A ZONING CHANGE. WE KNOW THAT WHAT TO EXPECT WITH THE CURRENT ZONING. WHILE WE BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN VIOLATING FOR QUITE A WHILE AS A AS OVER, WE MUST OUT AS A RESIDENT WHILE WE THAT'S MINUTES CHAIR. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT. UH, WELL, I'M SORRY. UM, UH, I FORGOT MS. TANNER. RIGHT. UM, IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER THAT HAS QUESTIONS FOR MS. TANNER? OKAY. THANK YOU MS. TAN. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD ACTUALLY JUST FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. MS. TANNER? YES. MY NAME IS RAIN TANNER, PRESIDENT OF THE WICK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I LIVE AT 3 9 3 9 BRIAR VISTA DRIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK TANNER FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR INPUT. OKAY. CHAIR BACK TO YOU. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, MS. EMILY DID, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RESPOND MS. EMILY? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. I WILL BE VERY BRIEF, I PROMISE. UM, AS MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH LEADERSHIP SINCE EARLY MARCH. UM, WITH ALL ELSE GOING ON IN THE WORLD, MEETING IN PERSON HAS NOT BEEN POSSIBLE, BUT WE HAVE REMAINED IN CONSISTENT CONTACT, UM, AND AGREED TO, UM, THE REQUEST THUS FAR AS WELL AS OFFERED RESTRICTED HOURS OF OPERATION AS ANOTHER CONDITION OF THE REZONING. WE HAVE ALSO REACHED OUT TO MR. AUKI AND MRS. CHICK, UH, FOLLOWING THEIR SUBMITTAL OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. WE HAVE NOT HEARD BACK FROM EITHER YET, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO REACH OUT. UM, THIS PARCEL IS PART OF HIS OVERALL LARGE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL AREA, UM, AND PART OF THE PROPERTY TO THE NORTH END ZONED I ONE. UM, BUT RATHER THAN ZONING THIS PIECE, THE C THREE AND A TO I ONE, UM, WE DID CHOOSE TO GO TO A REDUCED ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE C TWO WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THE ACTUAL OPERATION OF THIS LAND. SO REALLY HONING IN ON THAT. UNFORTUNATELY, WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE NOISE COMING FROM THE AIRPORT FLIGHT PATHS OR, OR OTHER USES IN THIS KIND OF GENERAL OVERALL INDUSTRIAL AREA. UM, BUT WE HAVE WORKED VERY HARD TO RESTRICT HOURS OF, UM, OPERATION ON THIS AREA TO UH, REGULAR NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. WE'VE REMOVED SCHOOL BUSES. THE DEER BLIND IS GONE. UM, AND WE'VE CLEANED UP SEVERAL OTHER ISSUES VERY QUICKLY. WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON ANY ISSUES BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. AS I MENTIONED, THERE WERE SOME SERIOUS CODE VIOLATIONS WHEN THIS PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED SEVERAL YEARS AGO. UM, AND A LOT OF EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO BRING THAT INTO COMPLIANCE. WHEN THE NOT OWNER WAS NOTIFIED THAT THIS PROPERTY WAS NOT ZONED PROPERLY FOR STORAGE, HE BEGAN [04:55:01] THE PROCESS TO RECTIFY THAT. AGAIN, PURSUING A LESSER INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT THAN NECESSARY. I BELIEVE THERE WAS A MENTION OF A SIX FOOT EASEMENT, UM, THAT WE WILL BE PROVIDING THAT REQUIRED 15 FOOT. SO MORE THAN DOUBLE. UH, WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO ALLOW FOR MORE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE BRIAR, WITH LEADERSHIP, UM, AND HOPEFULLY GIVE THE RESIDENTS THAT WE HAVE CONTACTED AS WELL AS ANY OTHERS A CHANCE TO, FOR EVERYONE TO ENGAGE ON THIS PROJECT. SO A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE, UM, IS BEING REQUESTED AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT OF THAT CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. THANK YOU. UM, WELL, EMILY, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND, AND, UM, I'M GLAD YOU GOT TO THE CONTINUANCE 'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M GOING ON THIS. UH, UH, THERE WAS A, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UM, CORRESPONDENCE AND OTHER COMMUNICATIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, UH, ON THIS CASE. I THINK THERE'S BEEN, UM, SOME MISCOMMUNICATION ABOUT SOME THINGS, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT TO REALLY, UM, WORK WITH BRIAR WICK AND, AND AS EMILY SAID, MEET FACE TO FACE AND, AND DISCUSS SOME OF THESE ISSUES. UM, UM, SO TO, UH, TO MS. TANNER, UM, YOU KNOW, I IMPLORE YOU TO, TO GET WITH THE APPLICANT OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, UM, AND SIT DOWN AND, AND, AND WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE ISSUES. UM, I'LL TELL YOU THAT, UM, AGAIN, BACK TO THE MISCOMMUNICATION, I THINK THIS IS REALLY A DOWN ZONING WHAT THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING HERE. UM, EVEN IF THINGS WERE JUST, THE ZONING WAS LED AS IT IS, UM, THAT THAT WOULDN'T HELP ALLEVIATE, UM, UH, THE NORTH FACE PROBLEMS AND SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT, THAT, UH, THE RESIDENTS ARE HAVING THERE. UM, I, I THINK ACTUALLY WHEN THE RESIDENTS SIT DOWN THE APPLICANT, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THAT WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING HERE, UM, FROM WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME AT THIS POINT, IS REALLY GONNA CLEAN UP, UM, THAT AREA THERE AND, AND THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA, GONNA LIKE THE RESULT. UM, SO, SO AGAIN, I AM GOING TO, UH, MAKE, MAKE A MOTION, UM, THAT WE, UH, ACCEPT THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST AND, AND MOVE FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO, UM, JUNE THE 16TH. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KATH. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER SIPES. THEN COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. SORRY. UM, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF. THE REASON THAT THEIR REZONING IS BECAUSE C THREE WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT DOES NOT ALLOW A CONTRACTOR FACILITY. IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S WHY WE'RE INIT THAT'S WHY THIS REZONING IS BEING INITIATED IS BECAUSE AS IT STANDS NOW, THE C THREE PORTION DOES NOT ALLOW A CONTRACTOR FACILITY, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. IT NEEDS AN S A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION. SO C3 WITH AN SS WOULD ALLOW CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT LEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UH, YES. TO STAFF. SO WHAT, AS FAR AS THE ACTIVITY ON THE SITE, NOTHING REALLY WILL CHANGE. IT'S, IT'S JUST CORRECTING THE WRONG ZONING, BUT THE ACTIVITY WILL REMAIN THE SAME. IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT SURE WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITY IS GOING ON ON THE PROPERTY, BUT IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION CONTRACTOR, THEY'RE REQUESTING A C TWO NA WITH THE CD FOR THE CONSTRUCTION ATTORNEY'S CONTRACTOR. AND WITH THAT, UM, IT IS ALSO ALLOWED THE COMMISSION TO LOOK AT ANY POTENTIAL, UM, CONDITIONS THAT MAY BE PLACED UPON THE PROPERTY WITH THE REZONING. SO THE C TWO CD WILL ALLOW FOR A LITTLE ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT OF THE PROJECT. OKAY. UM, SO WE CAN TONE IT DOWN FROM, WELL, I GUESS IT NEVER WAS. OKAY. UM, TO EMILY AFF TO EMILY, YOU STILL THERE? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. UM, EMILY, I THINK YOU COULD SELL OVER PIE. YOU ALWAYS DO SUCH GOOD, UM, PRESENTATIONS. , , AND I EAT IT. THANK YOU. UM, I MUST BE THINKING DINNER. UM, HELP ME UNDERSTAND, UH, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, TRAFFIC GOING ON, A LOT OF NOISE, A LOT [05:00:01] OF DIRT AND DUST AND HOT SUN. I COULD SEE THAT. UM, HOW IS THIS, HOW ARE YOU, IS CHANGING THE ZONING? I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO BE REASSURED THAT TO, TO CHANGE THE ZONING MEANS WE CAN MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE CURRENT ACTIVITY LEVEL THAT IT IS. BUT JUST LOOKING AT THE CURRENT ACTIVITY LEVEL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STORAGE AND, UM, PERSONAL PROPERTY OR PERSONAL RVS OF STORAGE. I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT GONNA, IS THAT GONNA BE TONED DOWN OR? THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA REMAIN THE SAME SO THAT THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTION, UH, QUESTION AT ONCE, BUT, UM, WHEN, SO A LARGER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT THE, THE SAME PROPERTY OWNER OWNS, UM, IS I ONE JUST UP TO THE NORTH. SO, UM, UH, ALL OF THE PROPERTY WAS I ONE. UM, AND SO THE STORAGE THERE WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IT WAS INDUSTRIALLY ZONED, UM, WHEN THEY WERE NOTIFIED THAT IT WAS NOT ZONED FOR THAT STORAGE USE. UM, THEN WE WENT THROUGH AND CLEANED UP, UM, THAT DEER BLIND WAS THERE, UM, VERY MINIMALLY IT WAS A, A TRANSITION ISSUE, BUT THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. UM, THERE WAS THOSE BUSES, THOSE HAVE BEEN REMOVED. UM, A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN CLEANED UP AND REMOVED ONCE THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE PROPER ZONING. SO, UM, BUT THIS ZONING REQUEST, THE C TWO CD, UM, WITH D N A, UM, REDUCES EVEN IF, UM, THIS WASN'T FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE CONTRACTOR, THAT C THREE BASED ZONING DISTRICT STILL ALLOWS FOR A LOT OF REALLY INTENSE USE THAT COULD BE SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. UM, LIKE I THINK THERE'S A FISH MARKET THAT'S ALLOWED IN C THREE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS A FISH MARKET BEHIND THEIR HOUSE. SO REDUCING THE INTENSITY OF THE ZONING REDUCES THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES. UM, AND THE INTENSITY OF THOSE USES ON THE PROPERTY. WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION TRADE CONTRACTOR, IT ALLOWS THE STORAGE, BUT IT ALSO TRIGGERS, UM, WHAT STACK OF RECOMMENDED OUR CONDITION IS THE 15 FOOT BUFFERS. SO THEY'RE GETTING THE BUFFER. AND THEN THIS ALSO PROVIDES ANOTHER AVENUE TO ADD CONDITIONS TO THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT OTHER WOULD OTHERWISE WOULDN'T BE IN PLACE. SO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, UM, WITH SOME OF THESE RESIDENTS, UM, ON THE PROPERTY LINE, UM, WE'VE ONLY BEEN ABLE TO REALLY CONTACT WITH THE LEADERSHIP, BUT WORK WITH THOSE RESIDENTS ON THE PROPERTY LINE TO FIND SOME OTHER CONDITIONS, UM, THAT MAY OR MAY NOT WORK, UM, TO KIND OF HELP EVERYONE BE A, A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO EACH OTHER. UM, WE HAVE CLEANED UP, THERE WAS SOME STORM DAMAGE WITH SOME TREES, UM, ON, UH, SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WE HELPED CLEAN UP, BUT, UM, THERE HAS BEEN MASSIVE CLEANUP, AND THIS IS PART OF AN OVERALL ATTEMPT TO REALLY CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY. LIKE I SAID, THERE WAS A TON OF CODE ISSUES EXISTING WHEN THE PURCHASE, THE PROPERTY WAS PURCHASED. BUT, UM, I THINK OVERALL A BIG BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY IS REDUCING THOSE INTENSE USES THAT CAN BE RIGHT THERE. UM, SHOULD BORDER CONSTRUCTION NOT BE THERE, UM, LEAVING THAT C THREE RIGHT BEHIND THEIR BACKYARD IS STILL, UM, REALLY, REALLY INTENSE AND OPENS THE DOOR FOR A LOT OF THINGS. SO, UM, THIS ZONING ALLOWS OBVIOUSLY A REDUCTION IN THE INTENSITY, BUT ALSO THE ABILITY TO ADD CONDITIONS LIKE WE PROPOSED WITH THE RESTRICTED HOURS. UM, THE FENCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE, THAT, THAT'S A, A WOOD PICKET FENCE THAT WAS PUT UP PROBABLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND THAT'S A SIX FOOT FENCE? I DO BELIEVE SO. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THEN FROM THE FENCE, THERE'S GONNA BE A 15 FOOT BUFFER INTO THE, UM, APPLICANT'S PROPERTY AND WHAT HAPPENS TO HER. CORRECT. JUST ANOTHER FENCE. UH, WE HAVE YET TO DETERMINE THAT, UM, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY UP FOR DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY. HAVE THEY TOLD YOU, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE? NO, THEY HAVE NOT. UM, THE REQUEST, UH, THE REQUESTS HAVE BEEN THE ADDITION OF THE KEEPING OF D N A. UM, AND THEN WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING NOISE ISSUES, THAT'S WHEN WE PROPOSED THE RESTRICTED HOURS, BUT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A CONFIRMATION OR REJECTION OF THAT. UM, BUT NOTHING ELSE, UM, HAS BEEN PROPOSED OTHER THAN THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE SEEN JUST NOW. AND, AND WHAT WERE THE HOURS PRIOR TO YOU OFFERING THE RESTRICTED HOURS? WHAT WERE THEY DOING BEFORE? UM, WELL, THEY REALLY DON'T OPERATE, UM, WE WANNA JUST FACILITATE THAT AS PART OF A CONDITION OF THE REZONING TO KIND OF LOCK IN THOSE HOURS. SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IN WRITING FUNDAMENTALLY RESTRICTED, UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT WORKING, UM, AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT. UM, THEY COME IN IN THE MORNING, PACK UP WHAT THEY NEED AND THEY GO OUT TO JOB SITES. SO, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S NOT ANY FABRICATION OR ANYTHING GOING ON ON THE PROPERTY. UM, THERE ARE A [05:05:01] TON OF OTHER USES AROUND US, QUITE FRANKLY. UM, SO I DO THINK IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO DECIPHER WHERE MAYBE SOME OF THAT NOISE IS COMING FROM. UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS IN WRITING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOURS WERE RESTRICTED. BUT WE'RE NOT LONG START PAVING BRINGS TRUCKS IN AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. WE'RE NOT DOING THAT EITHER. THESE ARE REGULAR BUSINESS HOURS. WOW. OH, SO THE, THE OTHER COMPANIES, WELL, UM, I THINK I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT THAT 15 FOOT BUFFER IS. IS IT A, A LINE IN THE SAND OR IS IT A, WHAT IS IT? UM, SO I THINK YOU NEED TO DECIDE THAT. UM, AND, UH, I MEAN, THE, THE EIGHT O'CLOCK HOUR SEEMS A LITTLE LATE TO ME IF, UM, WHEN THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T VERY HAPPY ABOUT IT. BUT THAT'S, THAT'S MY THOUGHT, BUT THANKS. THANK YOU, EMILY. YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER KAMATH, I THINK THERE'S TWO WEEKS ARE GONNA GIVE A REAL GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO PUT THEIR FOOT DOWN ON EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT, THE CONDITIONS, BECAUSE, UH, THIS BUSINESS IS NOT GONNA GO AWAY. UH, THEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT, BUT, UH, I THINK THEY CAN PUT ENOUGH, UH, CONDITIONS TO WHERE THEY CAN LIVE. LIVE WITH IT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? OKAY. THE MOTION IS ON THE FLOOR FOR A CONTINUANCE WITH A SECOND ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. IT'S A MOTION FOR A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH, MADE BY COMMISSIONER WHITE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KAMAN. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER HUEY. HI, DR. RAMIRO? YES. MR. GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. MR. WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER SITE? YES. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES BY A VOTE OF NINE TO ZERO FOR A CONTINUANCE TO JUNE 16TH. UM, [25. 20-3345 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700091 CD (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 CD AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for Motor Vehicle Sales (Full Service) on Lot 42, Block 1, NCB 14952, generally located in the 5800 block of Randolph Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] MADAM CHAIR? YES, SIR. UM, I'M VERY RESPECTFUL OF OTHER PEOPLE'S TIMES, SO IF, IF THIS REQUEST IN ANY WAY INCONVENIENCE IS ANYBODY, PLEASE TELL ME. UM, I, I HAD HAD SCHEDULED A, A BUSINESS MEETING THAT I HAVE TO ATTEND A BUSINESS DINNER AT IN, IN HALF AN HOUR. UM, AND SO I WAS WONDERING IF, UH, IF MY LAST CASE THERE'S ANY WAY WE COULD SWITCH THE ORDER. UM, BUT IF NOT, IT'S, IT'S NO PROBLEM. I'LL, I'LL DEAL WITH IT. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT? OKAY. LET'S UH, MOVE THAT ITEM UP PLEASE. DO YOU NEED TO A MOTION? DO WE HAVE TO VOTE? YEAH. CAN I JUST ADD THAT CHAIR? I HAVE TO BE IN ANOTHER MEETING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK. SO AT SEVEN, I'M, I GOTTA LOG OFF THIS MEETING. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ALRIGHT, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O V TO C2 WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES SCHOOL SERVICE. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,800 BLOCK OF GRANTS RANDOLPH BOULEVARD. THERE WERE 16 NOTICES, MAILS NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED C TWO CD MAINTAINS THE BAY C TWO DISTRICT AND THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION OF MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS, A USE TYPICALLY ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AND C THREE. THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWED THE ONE USE IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THE USES ALLOWED BY WRIGHT AND C TWO STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MAD CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? I BELIEVE WE'RE GETTING THEM ON THE LINE. SINCE WE SWITCH SEQUENCES, IT'LL PROBABLY TAKE US AN ADDITIONAL MINUTE. CAN YOU CHECK AGAIN? [05:10:04] SO, UM, IS THERE A WRITTEN PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE COULD READ WHILE THEY'RE, WHILE YOU'RE GETTING THEM ON THE LINE? YES, MA'AM. THERE'S JUST ONE. OKAY. THIS IS A RECEIVED FROM ROMEO RODRIGUEZ AT 1 0 8 1 9 MEADOW POINT. I RECEIVED A REZONING LETTER ASKING IF I WAS IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING FOR A MOTOR VEHICLE SALES BUSINESS ON RANDOLPH B BOULEVARD. I AM OPPOSED. I AM IN OPPOSITION OF BOUNDING THIS PARCEL FULL OF LAND. I AM IN OPPOSITION DUE TO MANY CARS. MANY USED CAR SALES ON RANDOLPH BOULEVARD. RANDOLPH BOULEVARD HAS MUCH BUS TRAFFIC VIA TRANS, AND THE BUS STOPS ARE NOT ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS. DUE TO NO SIDEWALKS IN THIS AREA OF RANDOLPH BOULEVARD, THIS PROPERTY IS UP FOR RESOUNDING, HAS A BUS STOP 200 YARDS AWAY, AND PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE SERVICE HAVE TO WALK ON THE STREET TO THE BUS STOP. THE STREET LIGHTING IS POOR AT NIGHT IN THIS AREA. AND I SEE IT WOULD BE A HAZARD TO PEOPLE WALKING OR IN WHEELCHAIRS GOING TO A BUS STOP OR THE LOCAL GENERAL DOLLAR, GENERAL DOLLAR STORE THAT, THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY. THE NOISE AND EXHAUSTED VEHICLES. I WOULD NOT WANT TO HEAR OR INHALE. MY BACK FENCE FACES THIS PROPERTY. I HAVE WITNESSED ACCIDENTS DUE TO NO SIDEWALK AND FORCED STREET LIGHTING. SINCERELY, ROMEO RODRIGUEZ AT 1 0 8 1 9 MEADOW POINT. AND NOW I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. JOHN VADO ON THE LINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. VADO, ARE YOU THERE? YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOUR PHONE AND IF YOU'RE STREAMING THE DEVICE, UH, ON A DEVICE, YOU'LL NEED TO MUTE THAT DEVICE. JOHN . GO AHEAD, SIR. I THINK THEY RE MUTED THEMSELVES IF IT'S NUMBER 20. I DON'T KNOW. IT LOOKS LIKE THE MICROPHONE WAS OFF AND IT WENT BACK ON. OR VICE VERSA, ACTUALLY. WHICH ONE IS IT? 20 OR 25? 25. 25 PROBABLY. MAYBE. PROMISE IS THERE A SECOND NUMBER TO CALL? YES, WE'RE GONNA TRY AND ALTERNATE NUMBER. I JUST MESSED THIS ALL UP, DIDN'T I? PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAPPENED IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, MAYBE WE COULD DROP THEM AND MAKE THEM CALL BACK. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND, AND GIVING THEM THE INSTRUCTIONS SO THEY KNOW HOW TO OPERATE IT. OKAY. JOHN , HAVE YOU JOINED US? WE OKAY, GO AHEAD SIR. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR PROJECT? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN. OKAY, GREAT. THANK YOU. GO GO AHEAD, SIR. TELL US ABOUT YOUR CASE PLEASE. OKAY. [05:15:01] MY NAME IS JOHN ANO AND I REPRESENT EVA INVESTMENTS. UH, AND MY, MY CLIENT, UH, OWNS A PIECE OF PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF R RANDOLPH BOULEVARD AND LANDMARK 35. THE PROPERTY WAS SUBDIVIDED AND MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY IS 1.65 ACRES AND THE PROPERTY IS BOUNDED BY A DOLLAR TREE, WHICH IS, UH, ZONE C TWO INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, AND THEN A CARD STORAGE LOT, WHICH IS, UH, ZONE C THREE. AND WE WERE ORIGINALLY REQUESTING OR APPLYING FOR REZONING TO, UH, C THREE FROM C TWO TO C THREE, AND THE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS SAW IT. AND, UH, THEY, UM, REQUESTED THAT RATHER THAN, UH, C THREE, THAT WE SEEK A C TWO CD CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE. AND, UH, WE AGREED TO THAT IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT MY CLIENT'S MAIN INTEREST IN THIS PROPERTY WAS TO UTILIZE IT FOR A USED CAR LOT. AND, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WE DIDN'T THINK THERE WOULD BE ANY PROBLEM. UH, THE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS DIDN'T THINK THERE WAS EITHER. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A, UH, INDIVIDUAL CONTESTING, UH, THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS A USE CAR LOT. SO THAT'S WHERE WE STAND NOW. UH, I, I, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT. OKAY. IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY ON THE LINES, THE COMMISSIONERS MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH. YES. THANK YOU. UH, MADAM CHAIR. UM, MY GENERAL FEELING ON THIS IS, IS I THINK IT'S AN, AN APPROPRIATE USE, UM, FOR THIS SPOT, BUT I'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR QUESTIONS OR COMES. THANK YOU. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER TIMMINS? UH, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN AGAIN? SO IT WAS ORIGINALLY, I'M SORRY, MA'AM. IT WAS ORIGINALLY, WE ORIGINALLY SAW A CITY THREE AND WHEN THE, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENT OFFICE LOOKED AT IT, UH, THEY WERE TO DENY IT, UH, AND SUGGESTED THAT WE, UM, SEEK A C TWO CD INSTEAD AND ASKED FOR OUR USE. AND WE TOLD 'EM THAT ALL WE WANTED THE PROPERTY FOR WAS A USED CAR LOT. AND THEY SAID, WELL, UM, I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THE SITE PLAN 'CAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYBODY ASKED. I'M SORRY. WE, I DON'T THINK WE ASKED YOU ANY QUESTIONS YET, BUT WE MIGHT. SO HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. OKAY? MM-HMM. . OKAY. SO NOW THAT I SEE THE SITE PLAN, UM, TO THE APPLICANT, SO HOW MANY CARS ARE GENERALLY ON THE SITE? AND THESE ARE FOR SALE? THIS IS, SO THIS IS A FORCED, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SELLING CARS? YES. IT'S A USED, IT WOULD BE A USED CAR LOT, MA'AM. OKAY. AND HOW MANY CARS WOULD BE ON THE, THE SITE FOR SALE? I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I'M SORRY. AT THIS MOMENT I CAN'T ANSWER. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. AND THEN THE OFFICE BUILDING IS A, IT IS, IT IS A TEMPORARY BUILDING. SO IT'S NOT PERMANENTLY THERE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A MOBILE BUILDING. 40 FEET BY 20? YES. OKAY. DOES HAVE SKIRTING AROUND IT. I'M SORRY. WILL DOES IT, IT, WILL IT HAVE SKIRTING AROUND THE MOBILE? WHEN YOU'RE SAYING SKIRTING, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU MEAN AT THE BOTTOM? SO YOU, IT'S KIND OF COVERED THE BOTTOM PORTION ALL THE WAY TO THE GROUND. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. AND, AND SO THESE ARE ALL USED BEING, I THAT'S TO YOUR, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT YOU AN ANSWER TO YOUR, HOW MANY CARS? WE'VE GOT 1.65 ACRES, THAT'S NOT TOO BIG OF AN AREA. SO HOW MANY CARS [05:20:01] CAN YOU GET ON THAT LARGE, LARGE AREA? I, I WISH I KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT. UM, I WOULDN'T IMAGINE YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET TOO MANY. WELL, JUST NOT THE PARKING LOT DIAGRAM. THERE'S 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 PARKING SPACES RIGHT THERE. FLIP THAT. PROBABLY 16 TO 25 CARS. CARS. YEAH, I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY RIGHT. THAT IS RIGHT. OKAY. THAT THESE, THE SITE PLANS IN LIGHT OF THE TIME WERE SENT DIRECTLY FROM THE, UH, DRAFTSMAN, UM, UH, TO THE DEVELOPMENT OFFICE. UM, BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING, UH, PRETTY, PRETTY CLOSE TO THE WIRE I ORIGINALLY SENT, THE PLAN I SENT IN WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE. I SEE. OKAY. AND DOES CLIENT OWN A CAR LOT ALL, UH, AT ANOTHER SITE? OR IS THIS HIS FIRST TIME TO OWN A CAR THAT DO A CAR LOT? NO, THIS, THIS IS THE FIRST SITE. THIS IS. OKAY. AND HE DOES HAVE A LICENSE? UH, YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. UM, SO AGAIN, I, I I THINK THAT, UH, WE HAVE STAFF APPROVAL HERE. UM, I THINK, UH, THIS USE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE. SO I MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO APPROVE, UH, THE APP, UH, WITH THE ZONING, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THIS IS WHAT NUMBER? 25. I SECOND. GIBBS. CAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER WHITE? SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? ANY COMMENTS? OKAY. UH, C N NONE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER DAVIS? YES. COMMISSIONER WADE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKES? YES. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ZERO. THANK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. AND, AND THANK YOU TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR, FOR LETTING ME, UH, UH, JUMP AHEAD THERE AND, UM, UH, I APPRECIATE THAT. BE SAFE. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA BE DEPARTING. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE RECORDING. COMMISSIONER WHITE LEFT AT SIX 20 AND WE'RE MOVING ON [20. 20-3187 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700079 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1 AHOD" General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to “IDZ-3 AHOD” High Density Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "C-3" General Commercial District, "O-2" High-Rise Office District, and 176 dwelling units on Lots 14, 15, 16, 17, 18 and the West 11 feet of Lot 19, Block 3, NCB 3029 and Lots 31-38, Block 1, NCB 6789, located at 202, 210, 214, 216 West Grayson Street and 747 East Locust Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] TO ITEM NUMBER 20. ITEM NUMBER 20 IS THE REQUEST TO READ RESUME FROM I ONE A H O D D TO I E Z THREE A H O D WITH USE IS PERMITTED IN C 3 0 2 AND 176 DWELL UNIT, LOCATED AT TWO OH TWO TWO TEN TWO FOURTEEN, TWO SIXTEEN WEST GRAYSON STREET AND 7 47 LOCUST STREET. THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MOVED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND TOKEN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. THE EXISTING I ONE BAY ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE AREA. OTHER PROPERTIES RECEIVED THREE AND, AND OTHER PROPERTIES, PARTICULARLY WITHIN THE SUBJECT BLOCKS, ARE ZONED AND DEVELOPED. I E V INFILL DEVELOPMENT ZONE FOR DWELLING UNITS. THE PROPOSED I E P THREE IS ALSO APPROPRIATE AS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OF RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND OFFICE CASES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT? YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE JAMES GRIFFIN. GRIFFIN ON THE LINE. YEP. HI, GOOD EVENING. UH, JAMES GRIFFIN, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN. UM, I WILL TRY TO GO VERY, VERY QUICKLY, UH, ON THIS. UH, I, I KNOW IT'S LATE, SO I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME. UM, IF, IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE POWERPOINT, UH, AND GO TO SLIDE TWO, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THAT'S JUST AN AERIAL, AS CHRISTY MENTIONED IT. UM, UH, IT'S IN AN AREA WHERE ALMOST AN ACRE LOT, UH, IN AN [05:25:01] AREA THAT, UM, HAS SEEN A, A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF GROWTH, UH, AND Y'ALL SEEN A LOT OF ZONING CASES COMING THROUGH RECENTLY. UM, SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE AERIAL, UH, THE PEARL, UH, IS JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RIVER TO OUR EAST. UH, A COUPLE CASES THAT CAME THROUGH, UH, RECENTLY THAT Y'ALL SEEN, UH, JUST ACROSS GRAYSON TO THE NORTH, UM, AT THAT SITE CAME THROUGH A SIMILAR PROJECT, MIXED USE, UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, UH, TO THE SOUTHEAST, UH, THAT ALMOST THE ENTIRE BLOCK. UM, ALSO CAME THROUGH, UH, UH, THE ZONING PROCESS IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS, UH, WITH A SIMILAR REQUEST. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE, UH, I D V, UM, OUR REQUEST, UH, WE, WE STARTED, UH, THIS PROCESS REALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, REACHING OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UH, AND, AND LUCKILY WE WERE ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM, UH, WHEN, WHEN MEETINGS WERE STILL OCCURRING BACK IN FEBRUARY. UH, OUR, OUR ORIGINAL, UH, PROJECT PROPOSED WAS, UM, UH, MORE DENSE, UH, A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. WE WERE PROPOSING A HEIGHT, UH, ALMOST A 200 FEET. UM, AND, UH, A NUMBER OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AROUND, UH, 300 OR SO. UH, THERE WERE SOME OTHER PROJECT COMPONENTS THAT WERE, UM, UH, ALSO PRESENTED AT THE TIME. AND, AND BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION, TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WE'VE SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE DENSITY, UH, AS WELL AS THE HEIGHT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, UP TO 176 RESIDENTIAL UNITS, UH, ALONG WITH SOME COMMERCIAL AND, AND POTENTIAL OFFICE USES. UM, KIND OF SKIPPING AHEAD, YOU CAN, YOU CAN FLIP THROUGH THE, UH, POWERPOINT, THOSE, SOME PICTURES OF WHAT THESE LISTING THERE TODAY. UM, JUST SEE, UH, INDUSTRIAL ZONING THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. UH, IF YOU FLIP TO SLIDE NINE, THAT'S OUR GROUND FLOOR SITE PLAN. UM, UH, LAYING OUT HOW THOSE USES WILL WORK. AND THE, THE FIRST COUPLE FLOORS WILL CONSIST PRIMARILY OF STRUCTURED PARKING. UH, AS I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE HEARD, UM, ON THESE OTHER CASES THAT HAVE COME THROUGH, UH, AND PROBABLY SEEN FOR YOURSELF. YOU KNOW, PARKING IS A VERY, VERY, UH, CRITICAL ISSUE IN THIS AREA, ESPECIALLY AS MORE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS. UH, THERE WILL BE SIGNIFICANT PARKING, UH, AREAS, PARKING SPACES IS PROVIDED. UM, BUT THE WAY THE BUILDING HAS BEEN DESIGNED, IT ALSO, UM, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A BIG PARKING GARAGE. YOU HAVE SOME VERY OPEN RETAIL, UM, ON THAT FIRST FLOOR. THE, UH, JUST REAL QUICK, IF YOU FLIP TO SLIDE 10, THAT WAS OUR INITIAL, UH, RENDERING, SHOWING THE TALLER BUILDING AND MORE RESIDENTIAL UNITS. UM, AND THEN FLIPPING TO SLIDE 11, UH, IS OUR CURRENT DESIGN. UM, THERE WERE, IN ADDITION TO THE REDUCTION IN HEIGHT AND, UH, NUMBER OF UNITS, UH, AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S REQUEST MADE A FEW OTHER PROJECT CHANGES. AND THAT, UH, ONE WAS REALLY OPENING UP THE GROUND FLOOR, UM, WIDER SIDEWALKS, UH, KIND OF STEPPING THE BUILDING BACK AT THAT GROUND LEVEL. UM, AGAIN, THOSE FIRST TWO FLOORS FACING EUCLID WILL BE RESTAURANT AND RETAIL SPACE, UH, WHEREAS EVERYTHING BACK BEHIND IT IN THE BUILDING WILL ACTUALLY BE STRUCTURED PARKING. UH, BUT TRYING TO HIDE THAT, UH, TO THE EXTENT POSSIBLE. UH, MAKE REVIEW MODIFICATIONS TO THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING ITSELF BASED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK. UH, AND THEN INCORPORATED SOME OTHER KIND OF MINOR ITEMS LIKE, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASKED FOR, UH, BIKE RACKS AND, UM, KIND OF BIKE FACILITY, UH, IN THE BUILDING, WHICH WE HAVE INCORPORATED. UM, UH, THEN LOOKING AHEAD, I GUESS, UH, SLIDE 13 IS PROBABLY THE LAST ONE. THAT JUST GIVES YOU A FEW, UH, OF THE, UH, OPENNESS, UH, ON THAT GROUND FLOOR. BUT, UH, UH, IN SHORT HAD SOME VERY GOOD DISCUSSIONS WITH BANKER ASSOCIATIONS, UH, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AND, UH, NEW PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPMENTS COMING ON IN THE AREA. AREA. UM, E EVERYBODY HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE. UH, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS ONE COMMENT SENT IN, UH, IN OPPOSITION, UH, WITH A, UH, REALLY COMPLAINT I, I'LL CALL IT, ABOUT ACCESS ON LOCUS. UM, WE DO HAVE, UH, ACCESS OR WE PROVIDED ACCESS BOTH TO GRAYSON AND LOCUS. UH, ONE OF THE SPECIFIC REQUESTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS TO NOT HAVE ANY ACCESS ON EUCLID AND, AND REALLY HAVE THE, THE BUILDING AND THE PROJECT, UH, PHASE OUT THAT WAY. UM, SO WE, WE HAVE MULTIPLE ACCESS POINTS, UM, BUT ALSO THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS IN ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT, UH, [05:30:01] REALLY DOES ALLOW FOR WALKABILITY. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ALL THESE NEW PROJECTS, RESTAURANT, RETAIL, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE PEARL, UH, ONE BLOCK AND, AND OVER THE RIVER AWAY. SO THERE'S A, A REAL GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR, UH, FOLKS ACTUALLY, UH, WALK PLACES AND RELY ON VEHICLES LESS. UM, AND AGAIN, COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY KIND OF AMPLIFIED THAT, TALKING ABOUT ACCOMMODATING BICYCLES, UH, EXPANDING THE SIDEWALKS AND ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, I, I HOPE THAT WAS QUICK ENOUGH. IT WAS PROBABLY LONGER THAN Y'ALL WOULD LIKE, BUT, UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS, UH, MIXED USE PROJECT THAT'S, UH, COMPATIBLE WITH EVERYTHING GOING ON AROUND IT AND SUPPORTED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. MR. GRIFFIN. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. THERE'S ONE, AS HE MENTIONED. UM, IT'S FROM JONATHAN AND HEATHER CARD AT 7 64 EAST LOCUST. LOCUST IS A LOCAL B STREET LOW DENSITY SIGN THAT APPROPRIATE FOR HIGH INTENSITY ZONING. THAT'S ALL. AND MR. GRIFFIN, DID, DID YOU DESIRE TO RESPOND TO THAT AGAIN? NO, NO, I HAVE THAT. OKAY. YOU THINK SO? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UH, YOUR VIEW ON WHETHER THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND ZONING REQUEST AGAIN, IS CAN ASSISTANT WITH WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE AREA AND YOU WOULD AGREE THAT IT'S APPROPRIATE. YES, MA'AM. AS IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UM, THERE IS I D C PRIMARILY WITHIN THIS BLOCK. AND THEN THE USES THEY'RE PROPOSING ARE, UM, A NICE, UH, TRANSITION AND COMPLIMENT TO THE EXISTING C THREE AND, UM, I ONE AND, AND OTHER RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE AREA. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO MY OTHER COLLEAGUES. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. YEAH. UH, JUST CAN'T GET IT OFF. GOOD MORNING. UNMUTE. UH, WE CAN HEAR YOU HEAR. OH, OKAY. UM, I WAS JUST QUESTIONING ABOUT PARKING. HOW MUCH, UH, HOW MANY UNITS AND HOW MANY, UH, PARKING SPACES PER UNIT? UH, WE ARE PROPOSING UP TO 176 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. UH, AND WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 310 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED. UM, AND THAT IS THE RESTAURANT? UH, YES. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'LL, YEAH, IF YOU'RE JUST GOING OFF THE RESIDENTIAL, IT'S ALMOST TWO SPACES OR ONE, ONE AND A HALF PER, UH, 1.75 PER UNIT. BUT, UM, THE PARKING IS PROVIDED FOR THE RETAIL AS WELL. OBJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. UM, JAMES, THE ONLY, UM, THING THAT I MIGHT SUGGEST, AND OBVIOUSLY THIS IS FOR COUNCILMAN TRIVINIA TO PURSUE IF HE SO DESIRES WITH YOU, BUT SINCE WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOWNTOWN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO MAYBE RESERVE A FEW OF THOSE UNITS FOR SOMEONE, UH, THAT WOULD BE WORKING DOWNTOWN AND LOOK AT THAT, UH, MEDIAN OF INCOME MAYBE TO HELP OUT WITH THAT DEMAND FOR HOUSING. UM, WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 20. COMMISSIONER SIPES SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS SEEING NNN? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAMPBELL? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. OH, I'M SORRY, HE'S OUT. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. AND CHAIR B? YES. MOTION PASSES THE DATE. ZERO. THANK Y'ALL. ALL LAST CASE I BELIEVE. YES. [05:35:01] THE FINAL CASE ITEM [22. 20-3188 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700083 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3NA MLOD-3 MLR-1" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District and "PUD C-1 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Planned Unit Development Light Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District to "R-4 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District on 1.139 acres out of NCB 10615, generally located in the 5000 block of Waycross Lane. Staff recommends Approval. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] NUMBER 22. A REQUEST TO READ THEM FROM C THREE NA TO R FOUR. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,000 BLOCK OF WAYCROSS LANE. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF. THE REQUESTED ARC BOARD BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED LAND USE DESIGNATION AND STAFF HAS FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND. THE PROPOSED REZONING TO OUR BOARDS MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA THAN THE EXISTING C THREE AND A STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MR. P, ARE YOU THERE? THIS IS A SPANISH SPEAKING APPLICANT, SO IT MAY TAKE US AN EXTRA MOMENT. OKAY. OKAY. UH, MY NAME IS MARTIN AND I AM PRESENTING MY CASE, WHICH IS, UH, LOCATED IN THE 5,000 BLOCK OF WHITE CROSS LANE. IT IS, UH, CASE NUMBER D 20 21 7 83. I AM PRESENTING THIS, IT IS IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO I, I AM REQUESTING THIS TO BE CHANGED TO RESIDENTIAL SO THAT THIS COULD ALL BE A UNIFORM RESIDENTIAL AREA BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ONE COMMERCIAL AREA AND, UH, PUT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL AREA. I BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT IS ALL CONSIDERED OR MOVED TO RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE I DON'T FEEL THAT IT IS ADEQUATE TO HAVE A COM UH, COMMERCIAL AREA WHERE TRUCKS COULD BE PASSING BY OR INADEQUATE COMMERCIAL, UH, BUSINESSES COULD BE SET IN PLACE WHERE THERE WANTS, WHERE I WANT IT TO BE IN ALL RESIDENTIAL ENVIRONMENT. I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD ENVIRONMENT FOR FAMILIES. SO THAT IS WHY I'M REQUESTING THIS. I THINK IT WOULD BE BETTER IF IT IS ALL UNIFORM, UH, IF I CHANGE IT. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT OF EVERYBODY AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS CHANGE. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY, UH, TO IN REGARDS TO MY CASE, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. IF YOU'LL JUST, UH, WAIT ON THE LINE, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS, YOU CAN TELL HIM THAT. OKAY. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? I BELIEVE WE HAVE A RECORDED COMMENT. OKAY. LET ME [05:40:01] ADAM SUMTER ADDRESS 3 4 2 GLENBURG SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO OH. PHONE NUMBER TWO TEN THREE SIX FOUR THREE NINE SEVEN THREE. CASE 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 0 0 8 3. I OPPOSE OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE 500 BLOCK OF BOY CROSS, I OPPOSE THIS OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, IF THERE'S NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO RESPOND TO, UH, OTHER COMMENT? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF HE SPOKE WITH THE, WITH THE LADY ABOUT WHY SHE OPPOSED IT. THAT WAS A PHONE CALL THAT WE RECEIVED ON THE, UH, CALL IN LINE MA'AM. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE MADE CONTACT WITH ONE ANOTHER, BUT WE WILL CONFIRM WITH THE APPLICANT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND COULD I GET A, FOR A SECOND, CAN I GET A, UH, UH, A ZOOMED IN VIEW TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER, UH, ZONING LABELS ARE AROUND THE AREA? YES MA'AM. OKAY. SO JUST A REMINDER, BECAUSE HE IS A SPANISH SPEAKING, UM, APPLICANT, HE HAS TO TRANSLATE FIRST AND THEN, UM, HEAR FROM HIM TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY RESPONSE. SO THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG TIME. THAT'S OKAY. CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO HAS SHE BEEN TRANSLATING WHAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING OR, AND WE JUST CAN'T HEAR AND WE OKAY. WE JUST CAN'T HEAR. OKAY. WONDERFUL. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, IS THAT OKAY? THE ZOOM RIGHT THERE? YES, THAT'S PERFECT. YES. MM-HMM. . SO DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I DIDN'T. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER GIVENS, UH, THE STAFF? 'CAUSE I'M CURIOUS, WHAT IS A C ONE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GATED OR HEARD OF? A COMMERCIAL GATED? UM, IT'S A POSSIBILITY. A POSSIBILITY THAT YOU CAN HAVE A PLAN NEEDED DEVELOPMENT WITH, UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING. UM, BUT UH, THIS IS PART OF AN OLDER, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE PROPERTY DOWN TO THE SOUTH, IT HAS ALSO I ONE HUD AND C ONE HUD. UM, IT MAY HAVE BEEN, UH, AN OLD HUD IN THE EIGHTIES OR NINETIES. ALRIGHT. IS THERE ANY LAND, LAND PLANNING USE OVER HERE THAT WOULD ALSO AGREE WITH THIS GENTLEMAN? THAT IT SHOULD BE RESIDENTIAL, NOT COMMERCIAL? UM, HE, THE, WELL, THE LAND USE PLAN FOR THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN CURRENTLY DESIGNATES THIS AREA OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. IT DOES. OKAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. COMMISSIONER JONES. OKAY, I'LL MOVE FOR APPROVAL. UH, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER JONES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KALIN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE A COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKE? YES. COMM AND CHAIRMAN D? YES. MOTION PASSES. EIGHT TO ZERO. OKAY. WOULD THAT BE IN THE LAST CASE? UM, THAT LAST CASE. [26. 20-3446 Consideration and Approval of the May 19, 2020 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes] ARE THERE ANY, UH, CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? OKAY. UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AND A SECOND PLEASE? COMMISSIONER SIPS. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER SYS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ROLL [05:45:01] CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER CA? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER DANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKES? YES. CHAIRMAN D? YES. MOTION PASSES. DATE? ZERO. THANK YOU. SO, UM, TWO THINGS. SO, UH, THE NEXT MEETING WE EXPECT IT TO BE LENGTHY AS WELL. YEAH, ACTUALLY IT'LL BE SHORTER. IT'LL BE SHORTER CASES. MM-HMM. . OKAY, GOOD. AND JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE, UH, ANTICIPATE THESE VIRTUAL MEETINGS WILL CARRY ON THROUGH THE REST OF THE SUMMER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY, UM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UH, NO REPORT. OKAY. WELL, I JUST THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND YOUR SERVICE. UM, GOLD STARS FOR EVERYBODY. BLESSINGS OF SAFETY AND HEALTH. UH, SO YOU AND YOURS, HAVE A BLESSED EVENING. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 6:52 PM THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.