[Junta de Apelaciones de Códigos de Incendios y Construcción 2020-06-13 1:30 PM]
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NO.MY CONSTANTINO, THIS IS THE DEPARTMENTAL SERVICES.
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OKAY.[00:15:58]
DEFINITION.[00:20:14]
I GO, WE'RE AT DOCUMENT SLAB.SLAB IS THE, UH, A I WE NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE CLEAR ON THAT FIELD IF A PERSON OPINION.
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HEN BRIAN TAKAMI.ROBERT CAN C MICHAEL MACRO LEE? YES.
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OKAY.CARPENTER, I D C IS SUBCOMMITTEE.
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I M I AM MECHANICAL.[01:05:31]
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SENIOR STRIKER CERTIFIC.[01:16:57]
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SENIOR STRIKER IS,[01:27:59]
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INSPECTION.[01:45:09]
DIRECTOR ROBERT, S A IN SAN ANTONIO.[01:51:00]
PROTECTION.CLA SHANNON, DIRECTOR SHANNON.
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MIKE.[02:00:15]
HARRISON.[02:08:11]
HARRISON,[02:10:21]
SENIOR HARRISON.[02:15:31]
SENIOR HARRISON.[02:20:02]
MAGNOLIA INSPECTOR IS A SOLO CITIZEN.[02:28:40]
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THE MCDONALD'S, THE MCDONALD.[02:35:38]
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INSPECTION SAYS NO.[02:45:59]
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AND MAGNOLIA.[02:55:03]
ADA, THE, THE KEITH JONES.[03:03:37]
NO, NO.[03:05:59]
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I DON'T, UM, YOU KNOW, THE ASIDE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M ALWAYS VERY HESITANT TO, UH, WANT EFFECTIVE FINANCE LIVELIHOOD.UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, ONE TRADE SAYING BASICALLY, LIKE YOU SAID EARLIER, HE SAID, UM, ONE TRADE SAYING ONE THING AND ONE TRADE SAYING THAT'S WHAT MY, I HAVE A
THIS IS
SO THIS IS TO, IS THERE, UH, ANOTHER COURSE, BUT LOOKING AT THE FOUR PAGES OF, UM, ACTIONS FOR THE FIRST FOUR MONTHS THAT WERE SET IN THE PACKAGE OF THE 43, UH, DECISIONS MADE, UH, IN SHOWED 74%, 74 4 HAD A 30 DAY SUSPENSION, I DO KNOW WAS FULL RELOCATION.
I THINK THERE WAS FIVE OR SIX, BUT THERE'S A 60 DAY SUSPENSION AND THERE'S A 90 DAY SUSPENSION.
SO AS A BOARD, CAN WE MAKE A DECISION? IS IT ONLY TO APPEAL AS A FULL RELOCATION OR CAN WE SAY YOU DO A 60 OR 90 DAY SUSPENSION? YES.
THAT, THAT GIVES THE BOARD OPTIONS.
AND YOU CAN ALSO THIS JACK UP MORE AGAIN.
SO YOU CAN ALSO SAY 30 DAYS, BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN SUSPENDED FOR HOW LONG RIGHT NOW? NINE DAYS.
SO WE CAN RECOMMEND A, A SUSPENSION AND A MONITORING FOR X AMOUNT OF DAYS OR X THE NEXT JOB OR WHATEVER, AND REASSESS.
WE MET WITH HIM, WE TALKED TO HIM.
WE TOLD HIM IF HE GOES AND, YOU KNOW, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE BOARD, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND OR MOTION? JEREMY, THIS IS WHAT IS THE CURRENT SUSPENSION TIMEFRAME OR IS IT JUST INDEFINITE AT THIS POINT? SO CURRENTLY THIS IS A LOCATION.
UM, AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THE CONTRACTOR HAS AN AFTER ONE YEAR THEY CAN REAPPLY, UH, FOR THEIR, FOR ANOTHER LICENSE REGISTRATION, SAN ANTONIO, UM, AND BE REEVALUATE AT THAT TIME.
UH, LET ME REAL QUICK, I CAN PULL OFF WHEN, UH, WHEN THAT WAS ACTUALLY WENT OFF.
SO THAT TIME HEARING STARTED ON APRIL STICK.
SO, UH, THE, UH, THE ATION OF HIS REGISTRATION WITH THE CITY IS GONNA AFFECT HIT STICK.
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CHAIRMAN.MAYOR, I'M GONNA, IF WHAT JEREMY SAYS, AND
I'M GONNA MAKE A REPORT ON HOW TO ADDRESS THIS AND THEN THERE COULD BE SOME DISCUSSION BEFORE THE VORTEX A VOTE.
AND SO I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THAT WE SUSPEND FROM APRIL THE SIXTH WHEN THE NOTICE WENT OUT INSTEAD OF FULL SUSPENSION AND NEW VOCATION FOR A YEAR.
BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A FIRST TIME INCIDENT THAT WE SUSPEND IT FOR SIX MONTHS, STARTING APRIL 6TH.
DO I HAVE A SECOND FOR DISCUSSION? UH, I'LL TALK THAT DO WOULD HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ON THAT MOTION AS FAR AS TIMING, LENGTH OF SUSPENSION, ET CETERA.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA GO WITH THE ALREADY SERVED THE 90 DAYS, UM, SO THAT IT COULD BE EIGHT TO THE YEAR.
SO THAT'LL WORK SIX MONTHS, NOT THE FOUR YEAR.
OH, NOT THE SIX MONTHS, NO, THREE MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS.
SO OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD BE LIKE 10 CONCERN HIM TRYING TO COME TO ANOTHER
UM, YOU, I JUST, I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THERE.
UM, I, I JUST, I STILL HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF SOMEBODY COULDN'T WORK FOR SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE TO ME IF IT WAS SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR.
THAT'S KIND OF A LIFEING KIND OF THING.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY TO ADJUDICATE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE UNDERLYING CALL TO THE REPUTATION, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK OF IT.
UM, AND I'M STILL, I'M STILL A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT AS WE'RE TAKING THE WORD OF, UH, A CONTRACTOR SAYS THOSE ARE HIS EMPLOYEE, BUT THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE DOING WORK FOR THE PLUMBER AT THIS MOMENT.
UH, VERSUS THE PLUMBER WHO IS SAYING THEY'RE NOT MY GUYS, NOT THE PLUMBERS.
UM, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL, UH, WITH THAT AND, AND ALL RESPECT TO THIS, TO THE CITY DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT, UH, CASTING ANY BURDEN ON THEM THERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE SIDE WITH THE, UM, WE SIDE WITH, UH, APPELLANT.
YOU KNOW, THAT IN TWO MONTHS IT'S BEEN 60 DAYS, YOU KNOW, SINCE OVER 60 DAYS SUSPENDED.
AND YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOME AMBIGUITY THAT, THAT IT WILL, YOU KNOW, PRETTY ALREADY.
SO DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT SHOULD BE THE, THE TIMING SHOULD BE LESSENED MIKE, INSTEAD OF 90 DAYS? YEAH, I, I, I, SIX MONTHS, 50 DAYS NOW, APRIL TO NOW, UM, I THINK THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, PRETTY SEVERE
MY
THE FACT THAT THIS IS A DEFENSE.
I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET TO SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT A FULL YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE A BURDEN.
AND I AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT IMPACTING SOMEBODY'S ABILITY OR INCOME, BUT, UM, SO IF SIX MONTHS IS TOO LONG FOR FOUR MONTHS OR THREE MONTHS, AND YES, THERE'S TIME SERVED TO ANSWER MAX'S COMMENTS EARLIER.
SO HE SERVED WITH
SO I'VE TRYING TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO SLIDE DOWN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR THEM DOING THE JOB.
IT JUST TO SORT OF, UH, RE FAVOR OF THE APPLICANT THAT HEY, SIX MONTHS, TWO, TWO MONTHS IS FINE.
I'M TRYING TO COVER UP SOMETHING THAT'S FAIR AND REASONABLE THAT US AS A BOARD CAN ON, UM, ON THE SAME PAGE WITH, TO MAKE A DECISION SO WE CAN MOVE ON THIS GUY, GIVE MR. OTTO, UH, CERTAINTY AND GIVE THE CITY SOME CERTAINTY ABOUT THE DECISION THAT WE MAKE AS A BOARD.
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I APPRECIATE THAT.I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. THIS IS, THIS IS MORGAN.
UM, I FULLY SUPPORT THE CITY AND THEIR STAFF AND THEY RECOMMENDED A YEAR OF SUSPENSION.
I WILL GO, UH, I'LL FOLLOW AT SIX MONTHS WITH MR. HANLEY.
I RECOGNIZE WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO, SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT, BUT I ASSUME IT WOULD NOT SUPPORT ANYTHING LESS THAN SIX MONTHS.
I THINK MR. HANLEY HIT IT, THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS MULTIPLE LOCATIONS THAT COME INTO QUESTION.
UM, SO THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME PENALTY.
AND TO JUST SAY TIME STRONG AT THIS POINT, I THINK IS
UM, LIKE I SAID, I I WOULD REALLY LIKE, UH, A YEAR, BUT I, I'LL CALL MR. HANLEY'S, UH, SUGGESTION OF SIX MONTHS AND IT'S GONNA BE ACTUALLY HOW MANY MONTHS AT THIS POINT FROM THIS POINT ON? STARTED APRIL 6TH.
SO WE'VE ALREADY GOT TWO MONTHS IN A WEEK GOING BY ALMOST.
SO IT IS SIX MONTHS, WE PUT IT TO APRIL.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY FOUR, FOUR MONTHS, ABOUT FOUR MONTHS OR SO.
QUESTION FOUR, FOUR MONTHS, WHICH PUT AROUND THE 1ST OF OCTOBER.
AND, AND, AND TO THAT, TO YOUR POINTS, I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT SUGGESTIONS AND I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE, BECAUSE THE CITY HAS THIS, THEY'RE SITTING BACK AND THEY'RE SAYING, HEY, THIS IS A REPEAT OFFENDER, REPEAT OFFENDER, REPEAT OFFENDER.
WE'RE AT THE SAME TIME TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, LIVELIHOOD.
AND, AND THERE'S GOTTA BE A BALANCE RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY WITH WE'RE ALL GOING THROUGH, UH, IT, IT, IT, EVERYTHING'S GOING ON WITH WORK AND, AND EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON, PERIOD.
SO TO THAT POINT, I, I, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION, BUT IT ALSO NEEDS TO BE, MR. THOMPSON NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS, THIS IS STRIKE 2.9.
AND IF, IF HE, IF HE DOES THIS AGAIN, THAT WE CAN'T JUST KEEP SAYING IT'S OKAY.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING A WE'RE DOING A PAUSE, MIKE, TO YOUR POINT, I THINK, BUT HE'S GOTTA KNOW THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING HIM ONE MORE NOT ON THE LIKE LINE.
AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO, TO GO TO THE CITY AND DO FULL RELOCATION AND WHATNOT IF WE GO, IF WE PASS THIS.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE? ANY MORE DISCUSSION? AND JUST FOR CLARITY, WOULD YOU MIND REATING YOUR MOTION, MR. HANLEY? YES.
UH, MY RECOMMENDATION IS, UM, WE EXTEND THE EXISTING SUSPENSION FROM STARTING APRIL 6TH FOR SIX MONTHS AND NOT, UM, UM, TURN DOWN THE APPEAL BY MR. OTTO THOMPSON.
AND SO THAT'S THE, THE MOTION.
AND THE MOTION WAS SECONDED BY MR. SMITH? YES.
AND DOES IT CARRY THE RECOMMENDATION ALSO THAT, THAT MR. THOMPSON KNOW THAT THIS IS, THIS IS, UH, NOT TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.
I WOULD ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT TO MY MOTION.
I'M SORRY, I'M NOT, NOT IN THE ROOM.
UH,
OKAY, MR. HARRIS? I GO, I DIDN'T GO JUST IN GENERAL.
UH, CURRENTLY I, I NEED, UH, NEED TO HAVE, UH, VISUAL ON EITHER, UH, MR. GARCIA OR MR.
WE STILL HAVE 10 AUDIO, BUT UH, HAVE EIGHT VIDEO.
UH, SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MEETING THE RECORD DEPARTMENT, MR.
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OKAY, WE DO CALL JENNIFERCHRISTOPHER GARCIA? UH, I AGREE.
MOTION
OKAY, SO THAT'S, UH, THAT CONCLUDES THAT MEETING.
UH, THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, TOUGH DECISION EVERYBODY MADE.
I THINK THAT WAS VERY FAIR DECISION, UH, THAT I THINK INCLUDES EVERYTHING WE HAD ON OUR AGENDA.
UH, JENNIFER, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE NEEDED TO COVER OR JEREMY? UM, JEREMY, I HAVE NO, NO ADDITIONAL ITEMS TO ADDRESS AT THIS MOMENT.
UH, THE OTHER THING WE WOULD NEED IS ADJOURN.
CAN I GET A MOTION FOR ADJOURN? MAX? I, I JUST WANT TAKE ONE QUICK QUESTION, JUST CHAIRMAN, UH, I JUST WANT WEBEX.
UM, IT WAS A POINT THAT WE GOT TOGETHER, VERY SUCCESSFUL AND I PUT TOGETHER, OKAY.