* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO THE CITY COUNCIL GOAL SETTING SESSION OF MAY 30TH, 2018. AND JUST AS A TIDBIT, WE LOOKED UP TO SEE WHEN THE LAST GOAL SETTING SESSION WAS THE START OF IT, AND IT WAS IN 2002. SO WE'LL GET STARTED. COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SHAW HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER VRAN. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER SALDANA. HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER BROCK HOUSE PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL HERE. COUNCIL MEMBER ELIAS. COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. AND MAYOR NURENBERG HERE. MAYOR, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT, GOOD [1. City Council Budget Policy Goal Setting Session establishing budget policy direction that will guide the development of service priorities for the FY 2019 Proposed Budget and the FY 2020 Budget Plan to include possible action on matters presented and discussed. [Maria Villagomez, Assistant City Manager; Justina Tate, Director, Management & Budget]] MORNING. WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR CITY COUNCIL BUDGET GOAL SETTING SESSION FOR THE F Y 2019 BUDGET. WE DO HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TRANSLATION SERVICES. YES, THANK YOU, MAYOR. GREAT. AND WELCOME TO OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE AS WELL. UH, TUNING IN ON OUR LIVE STREAM. UH, WELL, HERE WE ARE. IT IS MAY 30TH. IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN A YEAR THAT WE ALL TOOK THE TABLE, UH, A WEEK AFTER WE WERE SWORN IN AS THE NEW CITY COUNCIL TO DO THIS FIRST GOAL GOAL SETTING SESSION. SO HOPEFULLY, UH, THIS YEAR HAS BEEN INFORMATIVE FOR OUR ENTIRE PROCESS. AT THIS POINT, EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE HAS GONE THROUGH ONE FULL, UH, GOAL SETTING AND BUDGET, UH, MAKING CYCLE. AND SO, UH, THIS SHOULD BE A, A FRUITFUL EXERCISE AND PRIORITY SETTING, UH, SESSION FOR US ALL. RAY, THIS IS YOUR EIGHTH SESSION NOW. YES, EIGHTH SESSION, UH, AS OUR SENIOR COUNCIL MEMBER. UM, SO HERE WE GO. AND ALL OF YOU HAVE PROBABLY READ THE ARTICLE THAT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO, UH, WHERE IT CITED THAT SAN ANTONIO WAS ON AGGREGATE THE FASTEST GROWING CITY IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, ADDING 66 PEOPLE PER DAY. UH, I THINK F Y OR EXCUSE ME, JULY TO JULY 16 TO 17. WE COUNTED 24,000 NEW RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS, WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS ABOUT SOME SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES FACING THE CITY FROM, UH, A HOUSING GAP, AFFORDABLE HOUSING GAP TO OUR NEEDS FOR TRANSPORTATION, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, BASIC SERVICES, AND SO FORTH. UH, NO ONE NEEDS TO REMIND US THAT THERE IS AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF NEED IN THE CITY, AND DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE CITY, THERE HAS BEEN A HISTORIC, UH, NEED. HOWEVER, THIS BUDGET PROCESS IS A REMINDER THAT THERE ARE ONLY FINITE RESOURCES. AND SO IT'S CRITICAL FOR US TO SPEND SOME TIME WORKING TOGETHER TO, UH, ADDRESS WHAT ARE TRULY THE PRIORITIES FOR US. UH, $1 SPENT, ONE PLACE IS ANOTHER DOLLAR NOT SPENT IN ANOTHER, AND WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IN A PROPER WAY THAT ALSO ACHIEVES EQUITY, UH, THROUGH OUR CITY AND PLACES PARTICULARLY THAT HAVE BEEN UNDER INVESTED IN FOR SO LONG. AND I DO SALUTE ALL OF YOU. UH, LAST YEAR WAS A GROUNDBREAKING BUDGET IN THE SENSE THAT WE MATCHED, UH, THE NEEDS OF THE CITY, THE RESOURCES OF THE CITY TO THE NEEDS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENT, UH, CURRENTLY AND HISTORICALLY. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT CONTINUE TO PROGRESS IN THIS BUDGET. THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THAT WHATEVER RESOURCES ARE BROUGHT FORWARD AND WE'RE GONNA SEE, UH, ALL THAT TODAY, THERE IS GOING TO BE A NEED MATCHED TO IT. SO THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW THIS CITY AND THE CITY COUNCIL IS ROLLING IN EXTRA IS JUST NOT THE CASE. UH, THE IDEA THAT THERE IS A SURPLUS OF RESOURCES MATCHED TO A FINITE AMOUNT OF NEEDS IS NOT, UH, THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION. SO, UH, LET'S GET TO WORK. LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT DAY, UH, OF BUDGET MAKING AND, AND PRIORITY SETTING. AND, UH, CHERYL, THANK YOU OFF TO YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD MORNING. SO, UH, TODAY'S SESSION, OF COURSE IS TO OBTAIN CITY COUNCIL POLICY DIRECTION ON THE BUDGET. AND WHAT WE WILL BE FOCUSING ON IN OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH YOU ARE ABOUT OUTCOMES AS OPPOSED TO OVERWHELMING YOU WITH NUMBERS. WE KNOW THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THOSE POLICY ISSUES THAT AFFECT THE CITY BUDGET. AND THEN WE WILL TAKE THE INPUT FROM TODAY AND USE THAT TO DEVELOP THE PROPOSED SPENDING PLAN, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. WE'LL ALSO BE PRESENTING THE RESULTS OF THE COMMUNITY SPEAK UP [00:05:01] CAMPAIGN, AND, UH, JEFF COYLE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT IN A FEW MINUTES, UH, THE DISCUSSION OF THE RESULTS OF THAT BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, UH, GREATER SUPPORT THIS YEAR AND FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO, YOU KNOW THAT OUR CITY BUDGET BEGINS ON OCTOBER ONE AND ENDS ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. AND SO OUR FISCAL YEAR BUDGET WILL BE PRESENTED IN EARLY AUGUST, AND THAT'S PRESCRIBED IN CITY CHARTER. SO I'LL BE PRESENTING THE BUDGET TO YOU ALL ON AUGUST 9TH, AND IT MUST BE ADOPTED NO LATER THAN SEPTEMBER 27TH. AND SO WE HAVE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED, UH, BUDGET ADOPTION ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF, UH, CUSHION THERE IN THE EVENT THAT IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER. UH, THIS YEAR, OUR WORK SESSION TODAY, UH, WILL BE LIVE STREAM SO THAT THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO VIEW THIS LIVE, BUT THEN ALSO, UH, SEE THE RECORDING OF THE MEETING. UH, FRANCISCO GOMA IS OUR FACILITATOR, AND, UH, HE HAS OVER 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE FACILITATING MEETINGS OF THIS, UH, SORT AND STRATEGIC PLAN DEVELOPMENT. YOU KNOW, THAT HE HAS WORKED WITH US FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS ON OUR CITY COUNCIL GOAL SETTING SESSIONS. AND IN FACT, WE HAVE USED, UH, FRANCISCO TO HELP US WITH OUR EXECUTIVE ANNUAL MEETING THAT TAKES PLACE IN MARCH OF EACH YEAR. SO WE'VE USED AND WORKED WITH, UH, FRANCISCO TWICE, AND OF COURSE, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME HE'S WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL. SO LET ME JUST QUICKLY REVIEW TODAY'S AGENDA BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP OUR STAFF PRESENTATIONS VERY SHORT THIS MORNING. AND OF COURSE, OUR PRESENTERS AS WELL AS DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ONCE WE COMPLETE THOSE PRESENTATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN TODAY WITH JEFF COYLE. HE'S GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU THE RESULTS OF THE SPEAKUP CAMPAIGN. SECONDLY, MARIA VILLAGOMEZ, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, WILL GIVE A BUDGET UPDATE. YOU KNOW THAT WE PRESENTED THE MID-YEAR REVIEW IN APRIL, AND SO SHE WILL SHARE WITH YOU UPDATED FINANCIAL INFORMATION FROM THAT MIDYEAR REVIEW. SUCCINCT PRESENTATIONS WILL FOLLOW, AND WE WILL BE TOUCHING ON, UH, A NUMBER OF AREAS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND DRAINAGE. BEN GOZA IS GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT FINANCIAL ISSUES, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED. AND WE'LL END OUR STAFF PRESENTATIONS WITH A PRESENTATION BY ALEX LOPEZ TALKING ABOUT THE STATUS OF OUR EQUITY ASSESSMENT PROCESS WITH OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AND HOW WE HAVE INCLUDED THE EQUITY ASSESSMENTS INTO OUR BUDGETING PLANS. SO, BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO FRANCISCO TO TALK ABOUT THE RULES OF ENGAGEMENT THIS MORNING FOR THIS DIALOGUE AND CONVERSATION, I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE AND THANK PATRICIA QUEZ CANTOR, WHERE IS PATRICIA? SHE IS OUR INTERIM DIRECTOR AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND HELP JOHN PATEK AND CHRIS CALLANAN MAKE ALL OF THE ARRANGEMENTS, UH, FOR THIS WORK SESSION TODAY, ALONG WITH THE BUDGET STAFF. SO, PATRICIA, WE THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE ARRANGEMENTS AND HOSTING US HERE IN OUR FAMOUS CANTILEVER ROOM, UH, IN THE NEWLY RENOVATED CONVENTION CENTER. SO AT THIS TIME, LET ME TURN IT OVER TO FRANCISCO, AND THEN WE'LL GO DIRECTLY, UH, TO OUR PRESENTATIONS. FRANCISCO. THANK YOU, JOE. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. GREAT TO BE BACK HERE WITH YOU AGAIN. UM, EACH YEAR WHEN WE CONVENE, UH, KINDA SHARE A A BIT OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT TO FRAME YOUR THINKING AS WE GO INTO THE DAY. A COUPLE YEARS AGO WAS A RUBIK'S CUBE LAST YEAR. IT WAS THE MEDICI EFFECT AND HOW WE CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN THINGS. AND THIS YEAR, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF, OF THE, THE RECENT CENSUS DATA, UH, THE, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT DOES IT TAKE IN MY MIND? UM, WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO BUILD A THOUSAND YEAR CITY, RIGHT? WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR TRICENTENNIAL THIS YEAR AND LAST SUMMER AFTER I SPENT TIME WITH Y'ALL, I GOT TO DO SOME INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL WITH MY KIDS. AND AS PROUD AS WE ARE OF OUR TRICENTENNIAL, UH, I GOT TO GO TO PLAZAS WITH THEM THAT, THAT HAD BEEN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC FOR, UH, OVER A MILLENNIUM, RIGHT? AND SO WHAT TYPE OF LEADERSHIP, UH, BUILDS AND SETS THE FOUNDATION FOR A THOUSAND YEAR CITY? AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF WAYS TO GET IT RIGHT. AND EVEN WHEN YOU GET IT RIGHT, THINGS CAN CHANGE IN A HEARTBEAT. HAS ANYONE EVER READ THE BOOK? GOOD TO GREAT. ONE OF MY FAVORITE, UH, ANALYSES OUT OF THIS BOOK, BOTH FOR WHAT THE AUTHOR GOT RIGHT, AND FOR WHAT THE AUTHOR MISSED, IS HE SHOWCASES A COMPANY THAT AT THE TIME OF THE WRITING, UH, WAS DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT. THEY WERE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB OF ENGAGING THEIR CUSTOMERS, DOING A GREAT JOB OF CREATING, UH, HIGH, UH, VALUE DESIRABLE WORK CONDITIONS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES. THEY [00:10:01] HAD GREAT SYSTEMS FOR INTERNAL LEARNING DEVELOPMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THAT COMPANY WAS CALLED CIRCUIT CITY. AND WITHIN FOUR YEARS OF THE PUBLICATION OF THIS BOOK, CIRCUIT CITY NO LONGER EXISTED. AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE HE WAS WRONG IN HIS ANALYSIS, IT'S BECAUSE THE MARKETPLACE, THE WORLD MOVES SO FAST WHETHER WE WANTED TO OR NOT. UH, SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW I WAS IN MY PREVIOUS PROFESSION, UH, NATIONAL DISASTER OFFICER FOR THE RED CROSS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, ALL WE WERE ALWAYS STRUGGLING WITH WAS THE FACT THAT WE WERE ALWAYS PLANNING FOR THE LAST HURRICANE SEASON, RIGHT? WE WERE ALWAYS REARWARD LOOKING IN OUR FOCUS RATHER THAN FUTURE FOCUSED IN THE THINGS THAT WE WERE DESIGNING AND PLANNING AGAINST. AND SO THE QUESTION AS YOU GO INTO TODAY THAT I WANNA POSE TO YOU IS, ARE YOU AVAILABLE FOR LEARNING? RIGHT? ARE YOU AVAILABLE TO REALLY BE IN A LEARNING CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER? BECAUSE AS I SPENT THE TIME OVER THE LAST, UH, MONTH VISITING WITH YOU, INTERVIEWING AS WE DO EVERY YEAR, YOU KNOW, I HEARD A LOT OF GREAT FEEDBACK THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, MORE OR LESS, THE FORMAT THAT WE USED LAST YEAR WAS GOOD, BUT YOU REALLY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEPT THE SMALLEST FOOTPRINT POSSIBLE ON THE STAFF PRESENTATIONS TO REALLY MAXIMIZE THE TIME FOR YOU TO BE IN CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL TELL YOU ABOUT LEARNING AT AN INSTITUTIONAL LEVEL IS THAT CERTAINTY IS THE ENEMY OF LEARNING. YOU CANNOT BE SURE OF SOMETHING AND BE CURIOUS ABOUT IT. AT THE SAME TIME, THE MINUTE YOU'VE MADE YOUR MIND UP, YOU'RE NO LONGER AVAILABLE FOR CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, KIND OF A CLASSIC OF, OF INSTITUTIONAL LEARNING, THE FIFTH, HOW CAN WE GENUINELY BE AVAILABLE FOR LEARNING? AND THEY REQUIRE THAT WE, UH, HOLD EACH OTHER AS PEERS, RIGHT? THAT WE ARE ABLE TO SUSPEND OUR ASSUMPTIONS AS IF HELD AT ARM'S LENGTH. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE CONVERSATION IN THE LATTER PART OF THE DAY, THE INVITATION TO ALL OF YOU IS EVERY ONE OF YOU, UH, HAS ITEMS THAT, THAT YOU SHARED WITH ME THAT, UH, AS A REMINDER, AS WE LOOK HERE AND WE SEE THE, THE FOUR OR FIVE BIG ITEMS THAT ARE GONNA BE PRESENTED BY STAFF, THESE ARE THE ITEMS THAT INTERSECTED THE MAJORITY OF WHAT YOU ALL SAID WAS IMPORTANT TO YOU. SO THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT YOU WERE ALREADY IN AGREEMENT LARGELY BEFORE WE WALKED INTO TODAY, THAT THOSE WERE CONCERNS. NOW, YOU WEREN'T NECESSARILY IN AGREEMENT AS TO HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS, SOME EXCHANGE, SOME DEBATE TODAY. BUT YOU ARE MORE ALIKE THAN YOU WERE DIFFERENT ABOUT YOUR SHARED VIEWS ABOUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THIS CITY, RIGHT? DARE SAY, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO CREATING A THOUSAND YEAR CITY, RIGHT? SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CONVERSATION TODAY, HOW CAN YOU REMAIN CURIOUS? HOW CAN YOU REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR LEARNING THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU TO SUSPEND DISBELIEF, THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE YOU, UH, TO LET GO OF THINGS THAT YOU FEEL STRONGLY THAT YOU NEED TO CHAMPION, BUT IT JUST MEANS THAT, THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY LISTENING TO THE THOUGHTS AND INSIGHTS FROM YOUR PEERS AND NOT WAITING FOR THE LITTLE RED LIGHT TO GO OFF SO THAT YOU CAN GET YOUR 2 CENTS IN. AND SO TO THAT END, UH, WE HAVE A FEW, UH, GROUND RULES, RIGHT? SOME THAT WE'VE HAD FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND, AND SOME NEW ONES. THE, THE BIG ONES ARE, UH, AS YOU'VE, UH, MIGHT RECALL FROM LAST YEAR, WE HAVE A, A SOFT THREE MINUTE RULE, RIGHT? THAT THE, THE GOAL OF TODAY, AND WHAT YOU'VE ASKED ME TO DO IS TO HELP YOU ENSURE THAT YOU'RE IN A GENUINE CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER, RIGHT? THAT IF WE GET TODAY RIGHT, WE'LL ARRIVE AT SOMEWHERE BY THE END OF THE DAY THAT NONE OF US COULD HAVE PREDICTED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE DAY, RIGHT? SO, SO THAT'S QUESTION NUMBER ONE. YOU KNOW, CAN YOU RESIST THE URGE TO, UH, TO GIVE PREPARED REMARKS ON ANY GIVEN TOPIC AND REALLY BE IN AN ACTIVE AND DYNAMIC CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER? THAT IF, UH, IF THE, IF THE MONOLOGUE GOES UP TO THREE MINUTES, THEN, THEN I WILL, UH, GENTLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONCLUDE SO THAT WE CAN PASS THE CONVERSATION BACK AND FORTH. AND AGAIN, AS A REMINDER, YOU CAN, YOU CAN JUMP IN AS MANY TIMES AS YOU WANT, SO IT'S NOT THREE MINUTES, AND THEN YOU'RE DONE, RIGHT? IT'S JUST NOT THREE MINUTES IN ONE TAKE, SO THAT YOU'RE REALLY IN A CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER. UH, ANOTHER BIG ONE, UH, IN THE SPIRIT OF HAVING AN AUTHENTIC DIALOGUE IS THAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES AND IDEAS, NOT INDIVIDUALS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, THAT I'VE BEEN ASKED AND I THINK IS A GREAT IDEA IS, UH, WE WON'T ENTERTAIN ANY AD HOY COMMENTARY TODAY, MEANING, UH, I'M GONNA ASK YOU NOT TO MAKE COMMENTS DIRECTED AT INDIVIDUALS, RIGHT? SO YOU CAN ADDRESS A POINT, YOU CAN ADDRESS AN IDEA THAT AN INDIVIDUAL HAS PUT FORWARD, BUT I, AS FACILITATOR WILL INTERVENE IF WE GET INTO A, A BACK AND FORTH AROUND THE, THE PARTICULAR, UH, CHARACTER MOTIVES, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, SHOE SIZE OF ANY PERSON AT THE TABLE. 'CAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR. WE'RE HERE FOR A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ISSUES AND THE IDEAS. [00:15:01] SO THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES. UM, SO IN TERMS OF PROCESS, WE'RE GONNA START THE MORNING, AS CHERYL SAID, WE, THE PRESENTATIONS ON THOSE AREAS THAT HAD THE MOST CRITICAL MASS FROM THE GROUP IN THE, UH, APRIORI INTERVIEWS. AND THEN, UH, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BREAK, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO DO Q AND A, RIGHT? SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT, THAT WERE HERE THREE YEARS AGO, YOU RECALL, WE DID Q AND A AFTER EACH PRESENTER, AND IT KIND OF SPIRALED OUT LIKE CRAZY, AND WE REALLY MISSED THE TIME, THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF CONNECT THE DOTS BETWEEN THINGS. SO AS WE DID LAST YEAR, WE'RE GONNA CONTAIN ALL THE PRESENTATIONS AND JUST ASK YOU TO WRITE DOWN YOUR QUESTIONS. AND THEN WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THE BREAK, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK, TO HAVE THE PRESENTERS COME BACK UP AND ADDRESS QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATIONS, PLEASE MAKE A NOTE OF YOUR QUESTIONS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE TIME THAT YOU NEED AFTER THE BREAK TO COME BACK AND HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS ADDRESSED. AND THEN FROM THERE, AS WE'RE TAKING THE QUESTIONS, I'M GONNA BE JOTTING DOWN WHAT ARE THE, THE AREAS THAT, THAT SEEM TO REFLECT THE MOST INTEREST FROM THE GROUP WHEN WE COME BACK FROM LUNCH. THE WHOLE BACK HALF OF THE DAY IS REALLY ABOUT YOU ALL BEING IN CONVERSATION WITH ONE ANOTHER ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK IT TAKES TO REALLY TAKE THIS CITY INTO THE NEXT JUMP OF POPULATION GROWTH AND, AND THE THINGS THAT WE'LL NEED TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER THOUSAND YEARS. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL TURN TO OUR TEAM TO BEGIN THE PRESENTATIONS. JEFF, JEFF COYLE IS GOING TO BEGIN WITH A BRIEF DISCUSSION ABOUT SA SPEAKUP. THANK YOU, CHERYL. UM, BEFORE I GET INTO THE BUDGET FEEDBACK, I WANNA APOLOGIZE FOR THE AUDIO FEEDBACK BACK. WE ARE, UM, LIVE STREAMING THIS, AND WE'VE HAD SOME DIFFICULTY WITH THE AUDIO ON THE LIVE STREAM, AND WE JUST MADE AN ADJUSTMENT. SO CAN YOU ALL HEAR BETTER NOW? YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. AND WE'VE GOT FOLKS ON THE OTHER END WHO SAY THE LIVE STREAM IS COMING THROUGH CLEAR, TOO, SO OUR APOLOGIES FOR THE, UH, FOR THE HICCUP. SO, UM, WE'LL BEGIN WITH THE WHY QUESTION, WHY WE DO, UH, SA SPEAK UP? UM, SIMPLY IT'S TO IDENTIFY THE COMMUNITY'S TOP PRIORITIES SO THAT WE CAN ESTABLISH AN EQUITABLE BUDGET THAT ADDRESSES THE NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. UH, THE ESSAY SPEAK UP CAMPAIGN HAS GONE THROUGH THE, UM, EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT, AND, UM, SORRY, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE SHORT TERM OUTCOMES. BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE RESULTS. NUMBER ONE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF THE SCOPE OF CITY SERVICES, ESSENTIALLY WHAT CITY GOVERNMENT DOES, AS WELL AS THE BUDGET PROCESS AND HOW WE INCORPORATE THEIR NEEDS INTO IT. SECONDLY, WE WANT THEM TO KNOW HOW AND WHEN THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN PROVIDING INPUT TO HELP SHAPE THE BUDGET. THIRD, WE WANNA MAKE SURE OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE AWARE OF THE NEEDS AND PRIORITIES AT THE RIGHT TIME, SO THEY CAN CONSIDER THAT IN TERMS OF THEIR BUDGET REQUESTS. AND FINALLY, THAT YOU ALL, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL ARE AWARE OF THE PURPOSE AND THE TIMELINE FOR, UH, SA SPEAKUP. SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE STARTED TAKING THE BUDGET, UH, TO THE STREET, SO TO SPEAK, INSTEAD OF JUST ASKING FOLKS TO COME TO PUBLIC MEETINGS. WE'VE GONE OUT TO COMMUNITY EVENTS AND COMMUNITY, UH, LOCATIONS. UH, WE HAD MORE THAN 30 EVENTS THIS YEAR WHERE WE HAD A SPEAK UP SQUAD, UH, OUT DOING SURVEYS, UH, IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITY AT A, AT A PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED EVENT. WE ALSO HAD OUR SURVEYS AVAILABLE AT ALL THE SENIOR CENTERS, LIBRARIES, AND COMMUNITY CENTERS, AND WE HAD IT IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH. THE PARTICIPATION, ONCE AGAIN, THIS YEAR, HAS EXCEEDED THE PREVIOUS YEAR. WE WERE ALMOST TO 8,000, UH, RESPONSES. WE ACTUALLY HAD MORE THAN 10,000 PARTICIPANTS, AND THAT WAS THE NUMBER I INITIALLY REPORTED TO THE CITY MANAGER. AS WE DELVED INTO THE NUMBERS, WE REALIZED, AND THERE WERE A GOOD NUMBER OF ONLINE SURVEYS WHERE PEOPLE CLICKED ON IT, ANSWERED THE FIRST QUESTION, AND THEN ABANDONED THE SURVEY AFTER THAT. AND SO WE PULLED THOSE OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD, UH, SUBSTANTIVE RESPONSES, UH, JUST UNDER 8,000, WHICH IS UP FROM UNDER 2000 JUST FOUR YEARS AGO. AND SO, IN TERMS OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO SEE INCREASED IN TERM, IN THE BUDGET, UH, FAR AND AWAY ITS STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, UH, FOLLOWED BY ANIMAL CARE SERVICES. SO THOSE TOP THREE, THE MAJORITY OF RESPONSES WERE FOR INCREASES IN THE BUDGET. AND LEMME PAUSE FOR A SECOND TO SAY THAT IN THE PAST, WE HAD ASKED PEOPLE WHAT THEIR BUDGET PRIORITIES WERE. UH, THIS YEAR. WE ASKED WHAT, HOW, HOW THEY FELT FUNDING WAS, UH, RIGHT NOW, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE INCREASED, WHETHER IT SHOULD BE MAINTAINED OR DECREASED, KIND OF THE GOLDILOCKS APPROACH SO THAT WE HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING WHILE, UH, STREETS OR PUBLIC SAFETY OR WHATEVER CATEGORY MIGHT BE A PRIORITY, A RESIDENT MIGHT FEEL THAT FUNDING IS ALREADY ADEQUATE FOR THAT. AND SO WE ASKED THE QUESTION, UH, HOW, HOW ADEQUATE THEY FELT THE FUNDING WAS. SO AGAIN, STREET SIDEWALKS, ANIMAL CARE WERE ONE, TWO, AND THREE. HERE'S HOW THEY EACH BROKE DOWN IN THOSE MAJOR BUDGET CATEGORIES. [00:20:01] UM, THE, THE FIRST COLUMN IS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED. SECOND COLUMN IS SLIGHTLY INCREASED, THEN MAINTAINED, SLIGHTLY DECREASED, AND SIGNIFICANTLY DECREASED. SO THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THAT, UH, 71 PLUS PERCENT FOR STREETS, SIDEWALKS, IT COMES DOWN A LITTLE BIT, UM, ANIMAL CARE. YOU START TO SEE THE SHIFT INTO A LOT OF RESPONDENTS SAYING MAINTAIN, BUT STILL THE MAJORITY SAID INCREASE EITHER SIGNIFICANTLY OR SLIGHTLY. UH, AND THEN, UH, AS WE GET INTO PARKS AND REC AND LIBRARY, MORE PEOPLE ARE ANSWERING, UH, MAINTAINED. AND FINALLY, PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER ASKED FOR MAINTAINING. YOU'LL NOTICE IN ALL THESE CATEGORIES, VERY FEW, UH, REQUEST FOR DECREASING THESE MAJOR CITY SERVICES. IT'S JUST, UH, LESS THAN 10% IN MOST OF THEM. I THINK THE LARGEST OF THEM WAS PUBLIC SAFETY AT ABOUT 18%. AND YET THAT'S STILL LESS THAN ONE IN FIVE RESPONDENTS. UH, HERE'S HOW THE RESPONSES BROKE DOWN BY COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, A, A PRETTY, EVEN DISTRIBUTION, ALTHOUGH NOT PERFECT, UH, IF YOU LOOK IN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, 13% DID NOT ANSWER, DID NOT KNOW OR DID NOT WANT TO CHECK THE MAP AND, AND THEIR ADDRESS. WE ACTUALLY HAD THE, THE APP BROUGHT UP WHERE YOU COULD TYPE IN AN ADDRESS AND GET THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT STILL 13% DIDN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SO WHEN YOU TAKE THOSE OUT, THAT'S ABOUT 87% OF THE RESPONSES SPLIT BETWEEN 10 COUNCIL DISTRICTS. THE, THE MEDIAN WOULD BE 8.7% FOR EACH DISTRICT. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, MOST OF THE DISTRICTS WERE WITHIN A PERCENTAGE POINT OR TWO OF THAT. UH, 10 WAS AN OUTLIER ON THE HIGH END AT 11 AND A HALF, AND FOUR AND FIVE WERE OUTLIERS ON THE LOW END, UH, WE PUT SIGNIFICANT EFFORT INTO THE DISTRICTS WE WERE MONITORING AS THE SURVEYS WERE COMING IN, AND WE ACTUALLY SHIFTED, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ADVERTISING, UH, MIDWAY THROUGH THE CAMPAIGN AND PUT IT, UH, SOLELY IN THE DISTRICTS WHERE THE, UH, NUMBERS WERE LOWER, AND THAT HELPED BRING THEM UP. BUT WE STILL HAVE CHALLENGES IN TERMS OF, UH, EQUAL PARTICIPATION ACROSS THE CITY. UH, GENDER, THE MAJORITY OF RESPONDENTS WERE, WERE WOMEN. UH, 6% DID NOT IDENTIFY. AND WE ALSO GAVE THE OPTION OF A SELF-DESCRIBE FOR INCLUSIVITY. UH, AGE, WE WERE VERY PLEASED WITH THE DISTRIBUTION. UM, BETWEEN 25 AND 74, IT WAS ALMOST EVEN ACROSS THE BOARD. THE TWO HIGHEST I'LL NOTE, WERE 25 TO 34 AND 35 TO 44. SO YOUNGER, UH, PEOPLE GETTING ENGAGED WITH THE PROCESS, WHICH WAS VERY POSITIVE. AND YET, WE STILL HAD 15% AT THE 65 TO 74, UH, RANGE. UH, IN TERMS OF ETHNICITY, LAST BUDGET, UH, LAST ESSAY SPEAK UP. WE HAD A LARGER NUMBER OF CAUCASIANS THAN HISPANICS. AND SO WE REALLY PUT A FOCUSED EFFORT IN TRYING TO CHANGE THAT GIVEN THE, THE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, THE, UH, ETHNIC REPRESENTATION OF OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO WE DID FLIP THAT. WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UH, ALMOST 44% HISPANIC AND 35% CAUCASIAN. AGAIN, 13% DID NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. SO THERE'S SOME, UH, MARGIN OF ERROR IN THOSE NUMBERS. WE WANT TO KEEP CHANGING THAT. THE PERCENTAGE OF HISPANICS IN THE COMMUNITY, AS YOU KNOW, IS ABOUT 64%. SO WE'RE STILL 20 PERCENTAGE POINTS BELOW THAT, BUT, UH, BUT WE DO SHOW A, A LARGER, UH, THE LARGEST CATEGORY OF RESPONDENTS, UH, HISPANIC. UM, WE, THE VERY FIRST QUESTION OUT OF THE BOX WAS, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE THE SURVEY IN ENGLISH OR SPANISH? AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE HAD FOUR AND A HALF TIMES THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TAKE IT IN SPANISH THIS YEAR. STILL A SMALL NUMBER GIVEN THE ALMOST 8,000. BUT THIS IS NOT A MEASURE OF WHETHER PEOPLE SPEAK SPANISH. THIS WAS A MEASURE OF WHETHER THEY WANTED TO TAKE THE SURVEY IN SPANISH. SO, SO THERE ARE UNDOUBTEDLY MANY SPANISH SPEAKERS WHO TOOK IT IN ENGLISH. UH, BUT WE HAD ALMOST 400 TAKEN, TAKEN IN SPANISH, WHICH WAS A BIG JUMP OVER, OVER LAST YEAR. AND THAT'S IT IN A NUTSHELL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AFTER WE GET THROUGH THE PRESENTATIONS. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. UH, MY PRESENTATION IS TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE BUDGET. UH, BACK IN APRIL 18, WE DID A DETAILED PRESENTATION ON A MID-YEAR REVIEW, THE FINANCIAL STATUS OF FISCAL YEAR 2018 REVENUE AND EXPENSE. AND ALSO WE PROVIDED YOU WITH DETAIL ON OUR FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL OUTLOOK FOR THE GENERAL FUND AND SOME OF OUR RESTRICTED FUNDS. SO TODAY, THE FOCUS OF THIS, UH, BRIEF UPDATE IS ON THE GENERAL FUND. SO, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR IS $2.7 BILLION. OUR RESTRICTED FUNDS MAKE UP, UH, 858 MILLION. AND THIS ARE FUNDS THAT ARE, THE USE OF THEIR REVENUES IS RESTRICTED EITHER BY FEDERAL OIL, STATE LAW, OR LOCAL ORDINANCES. [00:25:01] SO FUNDS LIKE THE AIRPORT, UH, HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, AND SOLID WASTE ARE WITHIN THIS, UH, BUCKET OF OUR, OF, OF OUR BUDGET. OUR CAPITAL, UH, PROGRAM IS ABOUT 639 MILLION FOR THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. AND THIS REPRESENTS THOSE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE COMPLETING FROM THE 2012 BOND PROGRAM, AND THOSE THAT WE ARE STARTING IN THE 2017 BOND PROGRAM, IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE AIRPORT PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE UNDERWAY. AND FINALLY, THE LARGEST COMPONENT OF THE BUDGET IS OUR GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS 1.2 BILLION AND IS THE LARGEST OPERATING, UH, FUND OF THE CITY. SO OUR GENERAL FUND IS SUPPORTED BY FOUR MAIN, UH, REVENUE SOURCES. THE PAYMENT THAT WE GET FROM C P S IN LIEU OF TAXES AND, AND RETURN FOR EQUITY IS ROUGHLY 30% OF THE GENERAL FUND. OUR PROPERTY TAX, UH, THAT WE COLLECT, UH, THE 22 CENTS FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS PAID ON PROPERTY TAXES REPRESENTS ABOUT 29% OF THE GENERAL FUND, FOLLOWED BY OUR SALES TAX REVENUE OF 24%. AND THEN OTHER RESOURCES SUCH AS OUR E M S TRANSPORT FEES, OUR, UH, FRANCHISE TAX AND OTHER USER FEES MAKE UP 18% OF THE BUDGET. THIS GENERAL FUND RESOURCES ARE ALLOCATED PRIMARILY TO POLICE AND FIRE SERVICES. 65%, UH, COMPRISE THE BUDGET, AND THEN THE REMAINING 35% OF THE GENERAL FUND IS ALLOCATED TO OVER 20 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, INCLUDING TRANSPORTATION AND STREETS, UH, PARKS AND RECREATION, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, THE LIBRARY, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE CITY. SO WHEN WE PRESENTED, UH, IN APRIL 18, THE STATUS OF THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, WE INFORMED THE COUNCIL THAT OUR FINANCIAL POSITION FOR THE GENERAL FUND WAS $13.2 MILLION BETTER THAN AT BUDGET ADOPTION. THIS WAS A COMBINATION OF A BETTER ENDING BALANCE FROM FISCAL YEAR 2017, MORE REVENUE AND LESS EXPENSE IN 2018. SO THAT'S OUR PROJECTION FOR THE FISCAL YEAR. WE ALSO TOLD THE COUNCIL AT THE TIME THAT WE WERE RECOMMENDING TO RESERVE THOSE DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE OUR STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM IN 2019. AS YOU MAY RECALL, UH, THIS FISCAL YEAR, THE TOTAL ALLOCATION FOR STREET MAINTENANCE IS $99 MILLION. HOWEVER, 35 MILLION OF THAT IS ONE-TIME FUNDS. WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY SOME FUND BALANCES FROM OUR 2007 BOND PROGRAM AND 2012 THAT WERE, WE WERE ABLE TO PUT INTO PRODUCTION FOR MORE STREET PROGRAMS OR STREET MAINTENANCE. SO THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS NEEDED TO MAINTAIN THAT LEVEL OF FUNDING IN 2019. SINCE OUR PRESENTATION IN APRIL, WE HAVE RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL PAYMENT FROM C P S AND ALSO AN ADDITIONAL PAYMENT FROM THE STATE ON SALES TAX. AND THAT COMBINED IS AN ADDITIONAL $1 MILLION SINCE THE LAST TIME WE BRIEFED YOU IN MID-APRIL. SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE ALSO ALLOCATE THOSE DOLLARS FOR OUR STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM AS WE STILL HAVE A GAP TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE GOAL OF 110 MILLION IN STREET MAINTENANCE IN FISCAL YEAR 2019. SO A QUICK UPDATE ON THE FINANCIAL FORECAST. UH, THE FINANCIAL FORECAST IS NOT A BUDGET, BUT IS RATHER AN EARLY FINANCIAL OUTLOOK OF WHAT WE SEE IN TERMS OF, UH, REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND EXPENSE PROJECTIONS BASED ON A SET OF ECONOMIC ASSUMPTIONS. UH, THE FINANCIAL FORECAST REALLY ALLOWS YOU TO BEGIN THE POLICY DISCUSSION ON YOUR PRIORITIES FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. SO JUST TO RECAP SOME OF THE GENERAL FUND ASSUMPTIONS, HOW WE BUILT THE FORECAST, UH, WE ARE MAINTAINING THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TODAY. UH, WE ARE ONLY MAKING SOME INCREASES FOR CONTRACT OBLIGATIONS THAT WE HAVE INCURRED, AS WELL AS CITY COUNCIL APPROVED FINANCIAL POLICIES. UM, AND WE'RE INCREASING, FOR EXAMPLE, FUNDING TO VIA FROM 4.3 TO $10 MILLION. THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE FINANCIAL FORECAST. WE'RE ALSO INCLUDING THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COSTS OF COMPLETED CAPITAL, UH, PROJECTS AS WE COMPLETE PARKS OR FACILITIES, WE NEED TO, UH, ADD THE OPERATING COST OF OF THAT. WE ALSO CONTINUE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE S A TOMORROW PLANS. WE, UH, HAVE INCLUDED A CONTINUATION OF THE STEP PAY PLAN AND THE POLICY DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO GET TO $15 ENTRY WAGE FOR ALL OF OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. WE ALSO HAVE A 1% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, AND AN ALLOCATION FOR PERFORMANCE PAY FOR THOSE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES THAT ARE PROFESSIONAL AND, AND IN THE MANAGERIAL POSITIONS. AND FINALLY, OUR FINANCIAL FORECAST REFLECTS THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH THE, WITH THE, UH, POLICE, UH, OFFICERS AND EVERGREEN FOR FIRE. SO IN SUMMARY, ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE COMBINATION OF THIS, UM, ASSUMPTIONS AND REVENUE AND EXPENSE. [00:30:01] AND IF YOU LOOK AT FISCAL YEAR 2019, AS WE COMBINE ALL OF OUR RESOURCES AND EXPENSES, WE ARE STRUCTURALLY BALANCED. HOWEVER, WE NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE HAVE IN STREET MAINTENANCE TODAY, WHICH IS GET US TO 99 MILLION. AND THERE HAS BEEN DISCUSSION TO INCREASE THAT TO 110. SO WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL $22.8 MILLION TO GET TO A BUDGET OF 110 MILLION. UH, WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE OPTIONS FOR THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING BY LOOKING AT OUR CAPITAL BUDGET AND CAPACITY WITHIN, UH, THE CAPITAL FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT 110 FOR THE OUTER YEARS OF THE FORECAST FROM 2000, UH, 20 TO 2023, UH, THE AMOUNT THAT WE NEED TO ACHIEVE $110 MILLION IN STREET MAINTENANCE ANNUALLY, AS YOU CAN SEE, INCREASES BY ROUGHLY $10 MILLION. SO THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT. SO WHEN WE'RE ADDING TO THE 2019 BUDGET, WE ALWAYS DO A TWO YEAR, UH, BALANCE BUDGET SO WE CAN SEE THE LONG-TERM FINANCIAL IMPACT OF THE DECISIONS THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY. UM, ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE FINANCIAL FORECAST, ADDITIONAL POSITIONS FOR THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE BASE BUDGET THAT WOULD REQUIRE ADDITIONAL FUNDING AS WELL. SO THIS CONCLUDES MY, UH, BRIEF UPDATE, AND I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MIKE FRISBEE TO GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND TRANSPORTATION. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, I'M GONNA TAKE ABOUT FIVE MINUTES AND GO THROUGH INFRASTRUCTURE, SO STAY WITH ME IF YOU WOULD. WE'RE GONNA COVER A LOT QUICKLY, BUT TO START WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A MISSION STATEMENT, AND IT'S ALL ABOUT INNOVATION, DEDICATION, MAINTAINING, BUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THE QUESTION THAT WE'VE, WE'VE LEARNED AS WE GO THROUGH THIS EQUITY, UH, IMPACT ASSESSMENT PROCESS IS WHY, WHY, WHY IS THAT? AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT REALLY THE WHY HERE IS, UH, T UH, T C I WORKS TO ENSURE RESIDENTS HAVE SAFE MULTIMODAL ACCESS AND CONNECTIONS TO COMMUNITY DESTINATIONS, UH, IN RESPONSIVENESS FOR THE PLAN, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PLANNING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS, AND IS RESPONSIVE AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE RESIDENTS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHY, SPECIFICALLY STREET MAINTENANCE. UH, WE WENT THROUGH A VERY DETAILED, UH, ASSESSMENT PROCESS, AND YOU CAN SEE THE WHY STATEMENT THERE. AND IT HAS TO DO WITH QUALITY OF LIFE, HAS TO DO WITH COURSE WITH SAFETY. YOU CAN SEE THE OUTCOMES. AGAIN, TALKING ABOUT SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING ROUTINE TRAVEL, UH, SAFETY DURING, UH, DISASTERS AND AFTER DISASTERS, NATURAL DISASTERS, AND THEN THAT TRUST ELEMENT, RESPONSIVENESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE RESIDENTS. SO, UH, WE'RE NOT PERFECT, BUT GETTING BETTER ALL THE TIME. SO LET'S GET INTO, UH, STREET MAINTENANCE. UM, YOU ALL RECALL, WE, AND WE'VE TALKED THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ABOUT THE TWO YEAR PROPOSAL, UH, LAST YEAR TO GET THE, THE BOTTOM FIVE DISTRICTS THAT HAD, UH, P C I, UH, PAYMENT CONDITION INDEX OF LESS THAN 70 P C I ON AVERAGE TO GET THEM UP TO, UH, WHAT'S CONSIDERED A GOOD AVERAGE OF 70. SO THAT'S BEEN THE PLAN. UH, IT'S, IT'S WORKING. WE'RE ON TRACK AND, UH, WE, WE PROPOSED TO CONTINUE THAT TWO YEAR DEAL, UH, INTO, UH, FY 19. NOW, THE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS THIS ADDITIONAL 11 MILLION. SO IF WE GO TO 110 MILLION, THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 11 MILLION THERE TO WORK WITH. AND THERE'S A FEW WAYS THAT THAT COULD BE TREATED. LOOKING AT EQUITY, EQUITY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IS, UH, TAKING CARE OF THOSE GREATEST NEEDS FIRST IN EVERY DISTRICT. THERE'S GREAT NEEDS. THEY'RE THE OLDEST PARTS OF YOUR DISTRICT. SO ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, UH, POSSIBLE USES FOR THAT 12 MILLION WOULD BE TO DO A DISTRIBUTION IN ALL DISTRICTS, UH, IN YOUR OLDEST AREAS PREDOMINANTLY, THAT WOULD BE INSIDE OF FOUR 10, ALTHOUGH THERE'S TWO DISTRICTS, EIGHT AND NINE THAT, THAT AREN'T INSIDE FOUR 10. BUT YOU HAVE, UH, VERY OLD COMMUNITIES, UH, VERY CLOSE TO FOUR 10. SO THAT'S THAT FIRST OPTION OF, OF HOW, AND THIS, UH, BE A GOOD POLICY DISCUSSION, UH, LATER TODAY. UH, ALSO COULD, YOU COULD DIVIDE THAT, UH, UH, 11 MILLION BASED ON ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, UH, OR IT COULD ALSO, AS PETER'S GONNA BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACTIVITIES, UM, IT COULD ALSO FOLLOW SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS TO DO THE STREET MAINTENANCE RELATED TO THAT WORK. SO SIDEWALKS, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING OF COURSE, WITH COUNCILMAN TREVINO. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE. WE'VE MET INDIVIDUALLY WITH THOSE THAT ARE NOT ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, LEARNING A LOT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 5,000 MILES OF SIDEWALKS, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF GAPS OUT THERE IN THE SIDEWALK NETWORK, ABOUT 1900 MILES OF GAPS. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, OF PROGRAMS YOU CAN SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, FUNDING PROGRAMS, UH, THAT HELP US WITH THE SIDEWALKS. BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT GOAL FILL ALL SIDEWALK, GAP MILES CITYWIDE IN PRIORITIZED AREAS. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT PRIORITIZATION, AND THIS SHOULD BE FAMILIAR. [00:35:01] YOU KNOW, IT, WE'VE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ABOUT, UH, PROVIDING POINTS. THIS IS A, A SCORING MATRIX THAT IS FULLY FLEXIBLE. WE'VE GOTTEN SOME GOOD IMPACT FROM THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, FROM COUNCILMAN TREVINO. WE'VE TWEAKED THIS. SO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FROM PEDESTRIAN SAFETY SCHOOLS, TRANSIT ACCESS, ARTERIAL ROADWAYS, UH, CLINICS AND HOSPITALS, OTHER DESTINATIONS LIKE COMMUNITY CENTERS, UH, PARKS, LIBRARIES. AND SO REALLY LOOKING AT WHERE ARE THE PRIORITIES, UH, BASED ON THAT SCORING. AND AGAIN, THAT CAN BE TWEAKED. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S ABOUT, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THERE'S 42 MILES, UH, THAT ARE, UM, IN THAT TOP ONE OR TWO PRIORITY. SO THE IDEA WOULD BE TO SYSTEMATICALLY GO THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND KNOCK OUT THOSE PRIORITIES, UH, YEAR BY YEAR. SO WHAT WOULD IT TAKE, YOU KNOW, TO, IT WOULD TAKE $18 MILLION A YEAR BETWEEN NOW AND 2042 TO FILL ALL THE GAPS, UH, AND, AND DO THAT IN A SYSTEMATIC WAY, TAKING CARE OF THE PRIORITIES ONE THROUGH FIVE AS WE GO. SO, 18 MILLION, WE'VE GOT SOME, UH, YOU KNOW, BASE FUNDING EACH YEAR. WE'VE GOT BOND FUNDING AS WELL. AND, UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE. UH, A COUPLE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE CRITICAL AS WELL THAT WE, THAT WE PROPOSE TO CONTINUE. OBVIOUSLY VISION ZERO. SO THERE'S A DEDICATED 1 MILLION IN F Y 18. WE'D PROPOSE TO CONTINUE THAT. THERE'S A, YOU ALL ARE INVESTING A LOT MORE IN VISION ZERO, GETTING TO ZERO TRAFFIC RELATED FATALITIES THAN JUST A MILLION DOLLARS. WE, WE CALCULATE ABOUT $49 MILLION IN F Y 18 THAT YOU COULD ATTRIBUTE TO VISION ZERO EFFORTS. UH, SO THAT'S A GREAT THING, BUT WE WE'RE LEARNING MORE FROM THE DATA. YOU KNOW, UH, 33% OF OUR SEVERE, UH, PEDESTRIAN FATAL, UH, SEVERE CRASHES, INJURIES OR, UH, FATALITIES FOR PEDESTRIANS ARE ON 1% OF THE ROADWAYS. 33%, JUST ON 1%. AND THOSE ARE THOSE ARTERIAL STREETS. SO WE CAN FOCUS THE ATTENTION ON THAT. UH, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN GOING TO THE SCHOOLS. WE'VE BEEN, UH, DOING A LOT OF PUBLIC OUTREACH ON THIS EFFORT, AND THAT NEEDS TO CONTINUE. THE, THE PER THE NUMBERS ARE UP FOR 2018, WHICH IS NOT GOOD. SO WE'VE HAD, UH, UM, 68 FATALITIES, UH, SO FAR IN 2018, TRAFFIC RELATED FATALITIES THAT'S 35% HIGHER THAN LAST YEAR. SO WE'VE GOTTA CONTINUE THIS EFFORT ON TO, UH, SCHOOL PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. SO WE'VE HAD A, A PROGRAM, A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR TO GO CITYWIDE AND UPGRADE ALL OF OUR SCHOOL ZONES, UH, THROUGHOUT. WE HAVE 500 SCHOOLS IN, UH, SAN ANTONIO. A LOT OF SCHOOLS, A LOT OF SCHOOL ZONES. WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THIS FOURTH YEAR RIGHT NOW, GOING INTO THE FIFTH YEAR NEXT YEAR. WANNA CONTINUE WITH THIS PROGRAM, THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM. I KNOW COUNCILMAN SYA, UH, WAS PUSHING HARD LAST YEAR TO LET'S FORMALIZE THIS PROGRAM. LET'S PROVIDE THAT MILLION DOLLARS. WE'VE DONE A LOT OF GOOD THROUGHOUT THE CITY SO FAR, AND, UH, TAKING CARE OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD CUT THROUGH SPEEDING ISSUES IN A VARIETY OF WAYS AND WANNA PROPOSE CONTINUING THAT AS WELL. PAVEMENT MARKINGS, UH, MAYOR PITCHED LAST YEAR, WE NEED TO GO ROBUST AND THAT, THAT OBVIOUSLY WAS AN ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE THOSE STRIPES. UH, VERY IMPORTANT FOR SAFETY AND MOBILITY. UH, SO I, I, I'M SURE YOU'RE NOTICING THROUGHOUT THE CITY THE DIFFERENCE SO FAR. WE'RE, WE'RE ON TRACK WITH THIS NEW, UH, LEVEL OF FUNDING, THE $5.8 MILLION IN FY 18. UH, IT WILL BE SPENT ON TRACK. IT WILL, WE WILL COMPLETE, UH, WE'RE ON TRACK TO COMPLETE WHAT WE EXPECTED TO, WHAT WE'RE DOING OUT THERE AS WELL. ANYTIME WE RESURFACE A STREET, WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT STRIPING TO SEE HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS? HOW CAN WE MAKE IT SAFER FOR BICYCLISTS OTHER USERS, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES SHRINKING UP. YOU CAN SEE IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE THIS BUFFERED, CREATING A LITTLE STRIPING BUFFER BETWEEN ANYBODY THAT MIGHT BE RIDING A BIKE, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DISTANCE FROM THE TRAVELERS TO THE, UH, PEDESTRIANS AS WELL. UH, JUST TO WRAP IT UP, ESSAY TOMORROW. SO, UH, WE ARE EXCITED THAT THE M P O IS PROVIDING $4 MILLION, UH, THROUGH THIS, THROUGH THIS EFFORT TO THE CITY TO LOOK AT MAJOR CORRIDORS BETWEEN OUR REGIONAL CENTERS. UH, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH A PROCESS TO IDENTIFY THOSE AND, UH, TO DO THE, THE PLANNING EFFORTS TO GET READY FOR FUTURE BOND PROGRAMS AND SO FORTH. UH, WITH THAT, THOSE DOLLARS, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME MATCH REQUIREMENTS THERE, AND YOU'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE, THE VIA, UH, CONTRIBUTION HERE, GOING UP TO, UH, 10 MILLION NOW FOR F Y 19 AND FROM THERE ON. AND, UH, THEY RECENTLY CAME TO THE B SESSION, PROVIDED AN UPDATE OF, OF REALLY SOME GREAT SUCCESS SO FAR WITH THE CHANGES THAT THEY'RE MAKING WITH THE CITY FUNDING. SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, PETER ZONI. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M GONNA TALK TO YOU THIS MORNING ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. [00:40:01] UH, IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET, THE CITY WILL INVEST CLOSE TO 100 MILLION FOR HOUSING ACTIVITIES. 47 MILLION OF THIS IS IN THE FORM OF PROPERTY TAX RELIEF, UH, FOR SENIORS AND DISABLED VETERANS WITH OUR PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS AND FREEZE. OUR DIRECT INVESTMENT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET IS 52 MILLION FOR HOUSING, AND THIS IS PRIMARILY FUNDED WITH OUR FEDERAL GRANTS WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME GRANTS AND THE GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE $12 MILLION FOR HOUSING ACTIVITIES, AND ABOUT HALF OF THIS IS FOR HAVEN FOR HOPE. UH, WE KNOW THAT IN 2017, THE BOND PROGRAM INCLUDED $20 MILLION FOR THE FIR FIRST EVER AFFORDABLE HOUSING BOND. AND WHILE WE CAN APPRECIATE THESE FUNDING LEVELS, IF WE CONTINUE AT THESE FUNDING LEVELS AND AT THE LOCAL HOUSING MARKETS, AND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERNS AND LENDING PRACTICES CONTINUE AS THEY ARE TODAY, OUR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY ISSUES, UH, WILL GROW IN SAN ANTONIO. LET'S BEGIN WITH SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UH, FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE AUDIENCE ON WHAT IS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE BASIC PREMISE IS THAT HOUSING SHOULD NOT, UH, HOUSEHOLDS SHOULD NOT SPEND MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON A PLACE TO LIVE AFTER HOUSING COSTS. FAMILIES SHOULD HAVE DISCRETIONARY FUNDING TO PAY FOR THINGS SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION, HEALTHCARE, AND FOOD. SOME OF THE BASIC NECESSITIES, THE CHART ON THE RIGHT LAYERS AREA MEDIAN INCOME, UH, FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR AGAINST VARIOUS HOUSING TYPES. JUST TO GIVE YOU THE, THE VARIOUS NOMENCLATURE THAT WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT. AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS HOUSING FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR, EARNING BETWEEN 30% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME, AND 80% OF THE A M I OR BETWEEN $20,000 ANNUALLY AND $53,000 ANNUALLY. THE CHART LISTS FINANCIAL RANGES FOR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH WE'VE HEARD BEFORE. AND THEN MARKET RATE HOUSING IS ALSO LISTED LOCALLY. HOUSING COSTS CONTINUE TO ESCALATE FASTER THAN INCOMES IN SAN ANTONIO. THIS CAN AFFECT OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL AS OUR ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY AND SAN ANTONIO, THIS 500,000 HOUSEHOLDS, UH, TODAY, THIS IS BOTH IN THE FORM OF SINGLE FAMILY OWNED OR, OR OWNER HOMEOWNER OCCUPIED HOMES AS WELL AS RENTERS. BUT THE KEY FACTOR REALIZE IS THAT 33% OF THESE 500,000 HOUSEHOLDS ARE COST BURDEN, MEANING THE SPENDING MORE THAN THAT 30% JUST ON HOUSING. THESE COST BURDEN HOUSEHOLDS ON AVERAGE, ARE SPENDING $330 MORE EACH MONTH ON HOUSING COSTS, WHILE HOUSING PRICES ARE RISING. INCOME LEVELS LOCALLY ARE STAGNANT. THE TOP LINE ON THIS GRAPH SHOWS THAT INDEXED YEAR OVER YEAR CHANGE IN HOUSING PRICES FOR SAN ANTONIO. AND THE LOWER RED LINE SHOWS THE SAME INDEX CHANGE YEAR OVER YEAR FOR INCOME IN SAN ANTONIO. AND SO BETWEEN 2005 AND 2016, THE MEDIAN PRICE OF A HOME HERE SOLD, UH, SOLD INCREASED FROM 120,000 TO 180,000, WHICH IS ABOUT A 4.7% INCREASE OVER THAT TIME SPAN. HOWEVER, WAGES ONLY INCREASED FROM 40,000 TO 49,000. SO JUST 1.9% OR ABOUT HALF AS FAST AS THE COST OF A HOME. LET'S LOOK AT SOME OF THE DETAILS OF THE TWO HOME. UH, TWO, TWO HOME TYPES IS THE RENTER HOME AND THEN THE, THE SINGLE FAMILY, UH, OWNED HOME OR THE OWNER OCCUPIED HOME. UH, IN SAN ANTONIO, 48% OF ALL THE RENTERS ARE COST BURDEN. SO THE MAJORITY OF COST BURDEN FOLKS, UH, LIVING IN RENTAL UNITS, THE MAJORITY OF THOSE AT OUR COST BURDEN IN THAT SCENARIO ARE AT THE LOWER A M I INCOME OR 60% OR BELOW. IN SAN ANTONIO, OUR SUPPLY AND DEMAND GAP IS INCREASING COST BURDEN. RENTER HOUSEHOLDS ARE INCREASING JUST UNDER 3000 ANNUALLY IN SAN ANTONIO. AND IF WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE A M I CATEGORIES FOR THOSE MAKING UNDER 30% OF THE A M I, THERE'S ABOUT 4,000 MORE RENTERS TODAY, UH, THAT ARE COST BURDEN THAN THEY WERE IN 2005. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE A M I CATEGORY OF 30 TO 60%, THERE USED TO BE A SURPLUS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN 2005. UH, BUT TODAY THAT SURPLUS HAS BEEN, UH, ELIMINATED, AND THERE'S A SUPPLY DEMAND GAP OF 2,300 AFFORDABLE HOMES. LET'S LOOK AT THE SINGLE, UH, FAMILY HOMEOWNER IN SAN ANTONIO. THERE'S PROBLEMS THERE AS WELL. IN, IN SAN ANTONIO, 21% OF HOMEOWNERS A COST BURDEN WITH OUR RENTER. UH, SIMILAR WITH OUR RENTER POPULATION, THE GREATEST NUMBERS ARE IN THAT 60% AND BELOW AREA MEETING AREA, MEETING INCOME CATEGORY. AND FOR HOME OWNERSHIP, THE AFFORDABILITY GAP CONTINUES TO INCREASE. IN 2005, THE DIFFERENCE, UH, BETWEEN A MEDIAN H HOME AND WHAT A MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD COULD AFFORD THAT DIFFERENCE WAS $19,000. TODAY, THE GAP HAS GROWN TO OVER [00:45:01] $26,000, MAKING HOME OWNERSHIP ALL THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. AND AS WITH RENTAL UNITS, THE DIFFERENCE IN THE SUPPLY AND THE DEMAND, UH, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING OWNER-OCCUPIED UNITS IS, IS FALLING. UH, FOR HOUSEHOLDS OF THE 60 TO 80% A M I FROM 2005 TO 2016, 10,000 AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WERE LOST. AND THE, A GREATER NUMBER WAS LOST FOR THOSE MAKING 80%, UH, 220% OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. AND ONE THING THAT WE DISCOVERED HERE RECENTLY IN, IN WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE, IS THAT SAN ANTONIO IS ACTUALLY LOSING HOMEOWNERS. UM, SO IN THE ISSUE OF HOME HOME OWNERSHIP, UH, ANNUALLY THERE'S ABOUT 6,500 NEW HOUSE NEW HOMEOWNERS IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT ONLY 800 OF THOSE ARE, ARE A HOUSEHOLD OWNING A HOME. SO THE MAJORITY ARE RENTING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PERCENTAGES OF HOME OWNERSHIP, UH, OVER THE TIME PERIOD OF 2005 TO 2016, THAT HAS DECLINED FROM 61% OWNING A HOME DOWN TO 54%. SO WE HAVE MORE RENTERS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE BUYING HOMES ARE BUYING THEM IN BEXAR COUNTY OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. LET ME UH, CONCLUDE HERE BY JUST, UH, REMINDING THE COUNCIL ABOUT THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE. I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS. UH, IN AUGUST OF LAST YEAR, MAYOR NUREMBERG CREATED THE TASK FORCE TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING POLICY STRATEGY AND SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS. THERE ARE FIVE MEMBERS ON THE TASK FORCE, INCLUDING THE CHAIR, LOURDES CASTRO RAMIREZ, JEAN DAWSON, JIM BAILEY, NOAH GARCIA, AND MARIA ANTOINETTE BURIAL ZABEL. THE TASK FORCE GOAL AND MISSION IS TO LEAD A POLICY RECOMMENDATION PROCESS THAT INCLUDES COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND THEY'VE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, INCLUDES DATA ANALYSIS AND USING DATA AND LOOKING AT BEST PRACTICES TO DEVELOP A, A HOUSING STRATEGY FOR A, A FULL SPECTRUM OF HOUSING. THE TASK FORCE IDENTIFIED FIVE AREAS TO FOCUS ON IN PARTICULAR, INCLUDING HOUSING FOR ALL, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY HOUSING FOR, UH, TO INCLUDE SPECIAL POPULATIONS SUCH AS HOMELESS PEOPLE OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FOLKS, UH, CREATING A TRANSPARENT COORDINATED HOUSING SYSTEM. THE CITY WILL HAVE A LARGE ROLE IN THAT, LOOKING AT FUNDING, THEN FINANCING MECHANISMS FOR HOUSING, UH, LOOKING AT HAVING EQUITABLE AND RESILIENT NEIGHBORHOODS, TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT GENTRIFICATION, UH, ISSUE THAT WE KNOW ABOUT. AND THEN REMOVING BARRIERS TO HOUSING. THIS INCLUDES, UH, DEVELOPMENT BARRIERS AND COSTS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. THE TASK FORCE HAS DONE A LOT MORE THAN WHAT'S ON THIS ONE SLIDE OVER THE MANY MONTHS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING, BUT THEY HAVE HELD EIGHT PUBLIC MEETINGS. UH, THEY'VE HAD TWO PUBLIC WORKSHOPS ON A SATURDAY, AND A THIRD ONE WILL BE, UH, THIS SATURDAY IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR AND PALO ALTO COLLEGE. UH, COMING UP HERE IN JUNE, THEY'LL BE PRESENTING SOME OF THEIR INITIAL FINDINGS TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, PLAN COMMITTEE CHAIR BY COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ. AND THEN WE HAVE A B SESSION SCHEDULED FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 20TH, THE TASK FORCE. NEXT STEPS AFTER THAT B SESSION INCLUDES, UH, FINALIZING RECOMMENDATIONS AND IDENTIFYING BUDGET PRIORITIES IN JUNE. AND IN LATE JUNE OR EARLY JULY, AN EXECUTIVE REPORT AND IMPLEMENTATION IMPLEMENTATION REPORT WILL BE PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL, UH, FROM THE TASK FORCE. AND THEN IN AUGUST, WE EXPECT THAT THE TASK FORCE'S FINAL REPORT WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL, AND THERE'D BE SOME, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS AS WELL WITH THE COMMUNITY. NOW LET ME TURN THE, UH, PODIUM OVER TO BEN ZEL. GOOD MORNING, UH, ION COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'LL BE GIVING AN UPDATE THIS MORNING ON PROPERTY TAXES. UM, YOU'LL SEE SOME, UH, FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR INFORMATION THAT WE'VE GONE OVER WITH YOU BEFORE, BUT WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH THE BEAR APPRAISAL DISTRICT AND GET SOME ADDITIONAL DATA. SO THERE'S SOME NEW COMPONENTS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU, UH, THIS MORNING. SO FIRST, LEMME BEGIN WITH JUST KIND OF THE, THE BIG PICTURE SIDE OF THIS, WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT A TYPICAL PROPERTY TAX BILL, THE CITY GETS ABOUT 22% OF THAT BILL. THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICTS GET ABOUT 48%. AND THEN YOUR OTHER TAXING ENTITIES, WHICH INCLUDE THE COUNTY, THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE COLLEGES, THE RIVER AUTHORITY, AND THE UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM GET ABOUT 30%. AND IT DOESN'T REALLY VERY MUCH WHEN YOU GO FROM SCHOOL DISTRICT TO SCHOOL DISTRICT. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IT BREAKS DOWN TO, REGARDLESS OF WHAT PART OF THE CITY YOU'RE IN. THIS IS ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT. UM, THIS IS A AVERAGE HOMESTEAD. UH, OUR AVERAGE HOMESTEAD IN SAN ANTONIO IS A HUNDRED JUST UNDER $169,000. SO THIS IS WITHIN THE SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT SHOWS WHAT THE TAX BILL WOULD BE, UH, WOULD BE JUST OVER, UH, $4,300, UH, OF THAT SAN ANTONIO I S D WOULD GETTING, WOULD BE GETTING JUST ABOUT 50% OR TWO, A LITTLE OVER $2,000. THE CITY WOULD BE GETTING, UH, JUST UNDER A THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THAT 22%. AND THEN YOU SEE THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES LISTED THERE. ON THESE NEXT [00:50:01] COUPLE OF SLIDES, WE JUST TOOK, KIND OF TOOK A DIFFERENT, UH, APPROACH TO LOOKING AT THAT, THAT, UM, BREAKDOWN. THIS IS FOR THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. WE LOOKED AT A FIVE YEAR PERIOD AND LOOKED AT THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD FROM 2013 TO 2017. THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD IS OBVIOUSLY GONNA GO UP OR DOWN DEPENDING UPON WHAT VALUES YOU'RE DOING WITHIN THE DISTRICT. SO WE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH BEAR APPRAISAL AND GOT THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD JUST FOR, JUST FOR WITHIN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND THEN WE CALCULATED THE TAXES BASED ON THE TAX RATES THAT WERE IN PLACE OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD. THIS CHART SHOWS YOU WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TAX BILL WAS FROM 2013 TO 2017, IN THIS CASE. UH, $322, UM, MORE TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, ABOUT $74 MORE TO THE CITY, AND $90 TO THOSE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES. THIS ONE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE AS YOU MAY KNOW, THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT DID HAVE SOME TAX RATE INCREASES OVER THAT FIVE YEAR PERIOD. SO THAT'S ALSO DRIVING THAT NUMBER UP. THIS IS THE SAME ANALYSIS FOR THE NORTH SIDE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. YOU CAN SEE THE CHANGE IN BILL THERE FROM 2013 TO 17 FOR THE SCHOOL WAS $564, UH, $218 FOR THE CITY, AND $272 FOR THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES. SAME ANALYSIS FOR THE NORTH AND THE, UH, TAX RATE WITHIN THE NORTH SIDE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT DIDN'T CHANGE OVER THAT TIMEFRAME. THIS IS THE NORTHEAST INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT. THEY ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE YEARS WHERE THE TAX RATE WENT DOWN, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TAX BILL STILL CHANGED BY $476 FOR THE SCHOOL, UH, $233 FOR THE CITY. SO THE TAKEAWAY FROM THE, THE, THE LAST FIVE SLIDES IS WE'RE ABOUT 22% OF THE TAX BILL. UM, IT'LL GET INTO THE CONVERSATION IN A MINUTE ON SOME OF THESE, UH, SUBSEQUENT SLIDES ABOUT WHY IT'S DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE MEANINGFUL TAX RELIEF FROM JUST OUR PERSPECTIVE, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY 22% OF THAT BILL. JUST A COUPLE OF STATS ON OUR, UH, CURRENT VALUATION F Y 2018. UM, OUR TOTAL ASSESSED VALUATION'S, 124.3 BILLION. UM, WE START WITH, OR THE BAY APPRAISAL DISTRICT STARTS WITH MARKET VALUES AS THEY LOOK ACROSS THE CITY. THE ONE ADJUSTMENT THEY MAKE TO MARKET VALUES IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE. UM, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES CAN'T GO UP BY MORE THAN 10% PER YEAR. SO WHEN YOU PUT THAT CAP IN PLACE, THAT TAKES YOU FROM MARKET VALUE TO TOTAL ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH YOU SEE HERE AT 124.3 BILLION. YOU THEN APPLY EXEMPTIONS LIKE OUR OVER 65 EXEMPTION, UH, OUR TAX FREEZE, OTHER THINGS, AND YOU GET THE $16.7 BILLION. AND THEN OUR TOTAL TAXABLE VALUATION, WHAT THE TAX RATE IS ACTUALLY APPLIED TO IS 107.6 BILLION. AND ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE, WE JUST BROKE DOWN THE CATEGORIES FOR YOU. 49 BILLION IS RESIDENTIAL, 30.5 BILLION IS COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY, 12.6 BILLION. AND YOU SEE THE OTHERS LISTED THERE ON THE SLIDE. A COUPLE OF OTHER STATS THERE ARE WITHIN, UM, SAN ANTONIO 470 2048 PARCELS ON THE TAX ROLL. A PARCEL IS JUST THAT, IT'S A, IT, IT COULD BE A HOME, IT COULD BE A MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING UNIT, IT COULD BE A BUSINESS, IT COULD BE A VACANT LOT. THESE ARE JUST PARCELS WITHIN THE TAX SYSTEM OF THAT, THERE ARE 230,000 HOMESTEADS. A HOMESTEAD IS SOMEBODY THAT OWNS THEIR SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UM, IT'S THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE HOMES THAT ARE BEING RENTED. THESE ARE ONLY HOMESTEADS. THIS IS YOUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE. YOU OWN THE PROPERTY. THERE ARE WITHIN SAN ANTONIO, 92,847 OF THOSE THAT HAVE, UH, REACHED AGE 65 AND THEY'VE GOT OUR $65,000 EXEMPTION BEING APPLIED FOR FROM THE CITYSIDE. THAT BILL IS REDUCED BY THAT. AND THEN THEIR TAXES ARE FROZEN. THEIR ACTUAL TAX BILL IS FROZEN. WE'VE GOT ANOTHER JUST OVER 8,600 DISABLED PERSONS THAT ALSO QUALIFY FOR AN OPTIONAL EXEMPTION. AND THEN WE'VE GOT, UM, 29,500 DISABLED VETERAN EXEMPTIONS. THIS IS A STATUTORY REQUIRED EXEMPTION WHERE IF YOU'RE A DISABLED VETERAN, UM, THERE'S A MANDATORY EXEMPTION THAT'S THAT'S IN PLACE. WE HAD A QUESTION COME UP BEFORE TO KIND OF LOOK AT, AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, UM, WAS THERE A WAY TO LOOK AT HOMESTEAD AND LOOK AT HOW LONG SOMEONE WAS IN THE HOME. AND BRAYER APPRAISAL DISTRICT WAS ABLE TO HELP US, UH, GATHER THIS DATA. AND WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THAT 230,000 HOMESTEADS AND WE BROKE IT DOWN BY HOW LONG SOMEONE HAS BEEN IN THE HOME. AND WE BROKE IT DOWN ON THIS TABLE BASED ON, UH, 10 YEAR INCREMENTS. SO THAT TOP LINE MEANS IT'S A HOMESTEAD, AND THE OWNER'S BEEN IN THE HOME LESS THAN 10 YEARS. THE LAST LINE MEANS THEY'VE BEEN IN THE HOME FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. THE COLUMN TO THE RIGHT, UM, IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE HOMESTEADS THAT HAVE REACHED AGE 65 HAVE GOTTEN THE $65,000 EXEMPTION, AND THEIR TAXES ARE FROZEN. SO OF OUR 231,000 HOMESTEADS IN SAN ANTONIO, 45% OF 'EM HAVE REACHED 8 65, AND THEIR TAX BILL IS FROZEN [00:55:02] FOR THOSE OVER WHERE THEY'VE BEEN IN THE HOME FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. 94% OF THEM HAVE REACHED 8 65 AND THEIR TAXES, THEIR TAX BILL IS FROZEN. UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ALSO HAVE A MANDATORY TAX FREEZE AT AGE 65. SO IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY PORTION OF THE BILL THAT WOULD BE FROZEN. IT WOULD BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE COUNTY AS WELL, THAT, THAT ONCE THEY REACH AGE 65. SO YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT A LARGE PORTION OF OUR HOMESTEADS THAT ARE IN THAT FROZEN TAX BILL CATEGORY. UM, THIS ALSO INCLUDES THE DISABLED THAT I MENTIONED AS WELL. DURING THAT, THAT NUMBER, THIS TAKES IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY AND LOOKS AT IT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THOSE IN THE HOME OVER 20 YEARS. UM, THERE ARE 65,000, UH, IN THAT CATEGORY. OF THAT 82% OF THEM ARE 8 65 AND THE TAX BILL IS FROZEN THOSE UNDER 20 YEARS WITHIN THEIR HOMESTEAD. UH, THERE ARE 30% OF THOSE THAT HAVE REACHED 8 65 AND THEIR TAX BILL IS FROZEN. THIS SLIDE JUST LOOKS AT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, GIVES YOU A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT EXAMPLES HERE OF A HOMESTEAD. VALUE FROM A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO 500,000. ALSO GIVES YOU OUR AVERAGE HOMESTEAD AT JUST UNDER $169,000. IT TELLS YOU WHAT THE TOTAL TAX BILL WOULD BE, UM, ON AVERAGE, AND IT SHOWS YOU, UH, WHAT THE CITY'S PORTION OF THAT TAX BILL WOULD BE. THE COLUMNS TO THE RIGHT GIVE YOU OPTIONS UNDER STATUTE THAT YOU COULD, UM, IMPLEMENT A, UM, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. YOU CAN GO UP TO 20%. WE GAVE YOU JUST, UH, FOUR OPTIONS HERE. AND THEN WE CALCULATED FOR YOU WHAT THE TAX SAVINGS WOULD BE FOR THOSE HOMESTEADS LISTED OR THOSE EXAMPLES. FIRST COLUMN IS A $5,000 EXEMPTION. YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE CANNOT DO A FLAT AMOUNT. YOU CAN ONLY DO PERCENTAGES, BUT YOU CAN SET THE PERCENTAGE LOW ENOUGH TO GET THE MINIMUM $5,000 VALUE. THAT'S WHAT THIS FIRST COLUMN DOES. UNDER THAT SCENARIO, IT DOESN'T CHANGE 'CAUSE IT'S A STATIC AMOUNT. THE, THE HOMEOWNER WOULD SAVE BASICALLY $28 PER YEAR. THE CITY WOULD FOREGO $6 MILLION IN REVENUE. 3.7 OF THAT WOULD BE IN THE GENERAL FUND. 2.3 MILLION OF THAT WOULD BE IN THE DEBT SERVICE. THIS IS THE LOSS OF REVENUE, AGAIN, IN THE DEBT SERVICE FUND THAT WE USE TO PAY FOR DEBT. SO THE IMPACT IS LARGER. UM, YOU COULD USE A FACTOR OF 10 HERE AND SAY THAT IT WOULD BE A $20 MILLION LOSS IN, IN, UM, CAPACITY HERE OF DEBT CAPACITY. GOING TO THE FAR RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT EXAMPLES. IF YOU WENT ALL THE WAY TO THE FAR RIGHT AND DID A 20% EXEMPTION, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THE THE IMPACTS WOULD BE YOU SEE $112 UP TO, UH, $558 PER YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE HOME. WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO THE TOTAL TAX BILL, THAT'S LESS THAN 5%, IT'S ABOUT 4% OF THE TOTAL TAX BILL. IN THAT SCENARIO, THE CITY WOULD BE FOREGOING $44 MILLION OF REVENUE, 27 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND, $16 MILLION ON THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE. AGAIN, LEVERAGING THAT, YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING SOMEWHERE IN NORTH OF $200 MILLION IN BOND CAPACITY. SO WE WOULD GO AS FOREGO A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF REVENUE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE COULD MOVE THE TAX BILL, TOTAL TAX BILL BY ABOUT 4%. AND, UM, AGAIN, UM, AS THAT WAS PUT IN PLACE, THE WHOLE PROPERTY TAX SYSTEM IS BASED ON MARKET VALUES. SO AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, APPRAISALS, UH, OF PROPERTY WOULD CONTINUE TO FOLLOW THAT MARKET VALUE. THIS IS A COMPARISON TO SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES, SOME OF SOME OF THE MAJOR CITIES IN TEXAS. YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THIS, UH, BEFORE. IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY HAVE IN PLACE, TAX RATES, TAXABLE VALUE, WE ADDED THE COLUMN ON THE FAR RIGHT THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH REVENUE THEY FOREGO FOR. UM, FOR LOCAL OPTIONS ON TAX RELIEF, YOU CAN SEE WE'RE AT $47 MILLION. UM, THEY RANGE ANYWHERE FROM, UH, $30 MILLION IN AUSTIN, UP TO $177 MILLION IN HOUSTON. YOU CAN SEE THAT HOUSTON'S TAXABLE VALUATION IS, UM, MORE THAN DOUBLE OURS. SO, UM, IN TERMS OF TAX RELIEF, UM, WE'RE CERTAINLY HIGHER THAN AUSTIN, NOT AS HIGH AS SOME OF THE OTHERS. UM, IN TERMS OF THE TAX RELIEF THAT WE'RE PROVIDING, IN TERMS OF LOOKING AT JUST DIRECTLY WITH AUSTIN, UM, THESE ARE JUST SOME STATS FOR YOUR INFORMATION. UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEIR TOTAL ASSESSED VALUATION IS SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN OURS AT 161 BILLION VERSUS OUR 124 BILLION. THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD THERE IS MUCH HIGHER. IT'S A $281,000 VERSUS OUR $169,000 ROUGHLY. THE AVERAGE TAX BILL IS HIGHER IN AUSTIN 1250 VERSUS OUR 9 43. THE NEXT, UH, SET OF ROWS JUST GIVE YOU SOME INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE OPTIONAL, UH, EXEMPTIONS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. YOU SEE OUR 47 MILLION VERSUS THEIR 30.8 MILLION. AND THEN IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ADDED ON THIS TABLE THE MANDATORY STATE EXEMPTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE PROVIDED TO DISABLED VETERANS. WHEN YOU ADD THAT IN, THAT'S ANOTHER 7.8 MILLION FOR US. [01:00:01] 1.3 MILLION FOR AUSTIN TOTAL FOR THE, FOR US, IS 54.8 MILLION IN FOREGONE REVENUE TODAY VERSUS 32.1 MILLION FOR AUSTIN. AND THEN WE DID THAT AS A PERCENTAGE OF THE ASSESSED VALUATION. JUST TO GAUGE, ONCE YOU ADJUST MARKET VALUE FOR THE RESIDENTIAL CAP, HOW MUCH OF THAT, UM, ARE WE FOREGOING VERSUS AUSTIN? WE'RE AT JUST UNDER 8% AND AUSTIN'S AT 4.5%. JUST SOME OTHER THINGS JUST TO KEEP IN MIND AS YOU CONTEMPLATE THIS POLICY ISSUE ON A HOMESTEAD. WE'VE MENTIONED IT BEFORE. UM, THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION WILL VERY LIKELY INCLUDE MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT OUR REVENUE CAP, UM, UH, BASED ON EVERYTHING WE'VE SEEN. IN ADDITION TO THAT, GOVERNOR ABBOTT HAS, UH, RELEASED A RECENT TAX PROPOSAL WHERE HE'S PROPOSING REDUCING OUR ROLLBACK RATE DOWN FROM 8% TO 2.5%. WE DID AN ANALYSIS, AS YOU'LL RECALL, THAT LOOKED AT THE LAST 10 YEARS. HAD THIS BEEN IN PLACE, THE CITY WOULD'VE FOREGONE ABOUT $340 MILLION IN CUMULATIVE REVENUE OVER THAT LAST 10 YEAR PERIOD. AND THE GENERAL FUND TAX LEVY WOULD BE $81.2 MILLION LESS THAN IT IS TODAY. SO IF YOU TOOK OUR CURRENT BUDGET AND OUR CURRENT LEVY, UM, AND WE APPLIED THIS, WE WOULD BE 81.2 MILLION LESS THAN WE ARE TODAY. SO WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE ADJUSTED FOR THAT. THE AVERAGE SAVINGS TO THE HOMEOWNER FOR THE AVERAGE HOMESTEAD WOULD BE ABOUT FOUR, $4 AND 74 CENTS A MONTH. UM, BUT HAVE YET, IT WOULD HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT UPON OUR BUDGET. AND THEN THE OTHER CONSIDERATION IS, UH, POTENTIAL FEDERAL BUDGET IMPACTS. YOU'VE HEARD MUCH OF THE DIALOGUE. UM, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HAPPEN YET, BUT THAT DIALOGUE CONTINUES AND HOW THAT COULD AFFECT OUR GRANT FUNDING IN THE FUTURE. THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES ARE JUST A COUPLE OF HEAT MAPS THAT WE PUT TOGETHER. THIS IS JUST A MAP OF THE CITY THAT LOOKS AT MARKET VALUE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE, THE BLUE IS LESS THAN A HUNDRED THOUSAND GREEN'S, A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO 200,000. RED IS 200,000 TO 400,000, AND YELLOW IS 400,000 AND ABOVE. AND YOU CAN SEE THE DISBURSEMENT OF THOSE ACROSS THE CITY. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, I'M GONNA TAKE THIS MARKET VALUE AND SHOW YOU TAXABLE VALUE. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE EXEMPTIONS PUSH THE VALUES DOWN. YOU'LL SEE THE BLUE AND THE GREEN GET MORE PREDOMINANT ACROSS THE CITY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, ALSO, WHILE I'M LOOKING AT TAXABLE VALUE, DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR THE TAX FREEZE. 'CAUSE THE TAX FREEZE IS A FREEZE OF YOUR TAX BILL, NOT YOUR VALUATION OF YOUR PROPERTY. SO YOUR VALUATION CAN CONTINUE TO GO UP, BUT YOUR TAX BILL'S FROZEN. UM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE TRANSITION AS WE GO FROM ONE TO THE NEXT TO BLUE AND THE GREEN GETS MORE PRO PRONOUNCED. AND THEN THE LAST SLIDE WE GAVE YOU WAS JUST A LOOK AT, WE TOOK THE 101,000, UM, HOMESTEADS THAT WE HAVE, THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION, AND WE DISPERSED THOSE ACROSS THE CITY SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE SPREAD ALL OVER THE CITY. UM, THE REASON IS THAT EXEMPTION IS BASED ON AGE ONLY. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU'RE IN A MILLION DOLLAR HOME OR A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOME, WHEN YOU REACH AGE 65 AND YOUR HOMESTEAD, YOUR TAX BILL IS FROZEN. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT, UM, UM, BREAKDOWN ACROSS THE CITY. UM, IN CONCLUDING THIS PART OF THE PROPERTY TAX PRESENTATION, UH, WE WOULD NEED POLICY DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL IF YOU WANTED TO PURSUE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR FY 2019. YOU RECALL THAT STATUTORILY, OUR DEADLINE IS JULY 1ST. SO IF WE WERE TO PUT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE WOULD NEED TO BRING AN ACTION ITEM FORWARD FOR YOU ALL IN THE MONTH OF JUNE. UM, IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER THAT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE, WE COULD ALSO TALK ABOUT ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS IF YOU WANTED TO PURSUE SOME TYPE OF LEGISLATIVE OPTION THAT PROVIDED MORE TARGETED RELIEF. YOU, YOU JUST HEARD PETER'S PRESENTATION WHERE HE IDENTIFIED, UM, SOME AREAS WHERE THE GREATEST NEED IS. WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT SOME LEGISLATIVE OPTIONS THAT WOULD TRY TO TAKE, UM, ANY REVENUE WE WOULD FOREGO AND TARGET VERY SPECIFIC, UM, CATEGORIES OR SPECIFIC AREAS. SO WITH THAT, IT WRAPS UP, UH, MY PART OF THE PRESENTATION. LEMME TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER ERIC WALSH. MORNING MAYOR AND COUNSEL, UH, THIS MORNING I WANT TO QUICKLY UPDATE YOU ON THE, UH, CURRENT OUTCOMES OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S WORK, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR, AS WELL AS THE STATUS OF THE, UH, CHIEF'S EFFORTS TO, UH, TRAIN ADDITIONAL OFFICERS. SO, UM, WHERE ARE WE AT SO FAR THIS YEAR? OUR CURRENT OUTCOMES ARE THAT THROUGH MAY, THROUGH MID-MAY, OUR UNIFORM CRIME REPORT, UH, CRIMES ARE DOWN. UH, THE U C R UNIFORM CRIME REPORT CRIMES ARE THE, UM, EIGHT MAJOR CRIMES THAT ARE TRACKED AND REPORTED TO D P SS AND THE F B I ON A MONTHLY BASIS. UH, THEY INCLUDE CRIMES SUCH AS HOMICIDE, RAPE, ROBBERY, AGGRAVATED ASSAULT, SIMPLE ASSAULTS, BURGLARY, LARCENY, THEFT, AND, UH, MOTOR VEHICLE THEFT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE SLIDE, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR, UH, CRIME IS DOWN IN [01:05:01] THOSE AREAS 24%. UM, SECONDLY, OUR CALLS FOR SERVICE SO FAR THIS YEAR ARE DOWN 9%. AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND. OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TIMES TO PRIORITY CALLS IS DOWN SLIGHTLY THROUGH APRIL. UM, AND OUR REPORTED USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS BETWEEN OFFICERS AND THE PUBLIC ARE DOWN 34%, UH, THROUGH, UH, THROUGH APRIL AS WELL. FINALLY, THE LAST POINT ON THAT SLIDE IS OUR ARRESTS ARE UP 13% SO FAR THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PHILOSOPHY OF COMMUNITY POLICING IS THAT YOU, UH, PROACTIVELY ADDRESS CRIME TRENDS OR CRIME AREAS IN ORDER TO REDUCE CRIME OR, OR CALLS FOR SERVICE. AND, UM, PART OF THIS IS THE, THE GREAT WORK THAT, UH, THE OFFICERS AND SPECIALIZED UNITS SUCH AS THE VIOLENT CRIME TASK FORCE HAVE BEEN DOING, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR IN REDUCING THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AND ULTIMATELY THE, THE CRIME RATE. UM, JUST A NOTE OF THOSE, UH, 13%, UH, ARRESTS, UH, FELONY ARRESTS ALONE ARE UP 18%, UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR. THIS SECOND SLIDE SHOWS THE, AND SOME OF YOU MAY RECALL, UH, SOME OF THIS, SOME OF THESE SLIDES FROM LAST YEAR, UH, SHOWS THE HISTORICAL GRADUATION OF CADETS VERSUS THE DEPARTMENT'S TOTAL ATTRITION, UH, RETIREMENTS, UH, TERMINATIONS, UH, WHATEVER LED TO THE DEPARTURE SINCE 2011. UM, AND AS A REMINDER, THIS YEAR'S BUDGET INCLUDED FIVE, UH, POLICE ACADEMY CLASSES. UH, ONE STARTED IN OCTOBER. THAT CLASS WILL GRADUATE NEXT FRIDAY. UH, WE HAVE A CLASS THAT STARTED IN JANUARY, A CLASS THAT STARTED IN APRIL A MONTH AND A HALF AGO. UH, WE HAVE TWO CLASSES SCHEDULED TO GO. UH, UH, THAT'LL START IN JULY AND SEPTEMBER, UH, LATER ON THIS SUMMER. UH, IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE PROJECTED A TOTAL APPOINTING A TOTAL OF 200 CADETS AND GRADUATING 157 AS WE WENT THROUGH OUR ACADEMY. UH, WE CURRENTLY HAVE THREE CLASSES AT VARIOUS STAGES AT THE ACADEMY AND A TOTAL OF 110 CADETS. UH, THE DEPARTMENT HAS REVISED THEIR PROJECTIONS, AND RATHER THAN GRADUATING 157 THIS YEAR, UH, THEY'RE PROJECTING TO GRADUATE 174. I MEAN, ULTIMATELY ON THIS CHART, WHAT WE DO ON A WEEKLY BASIS, WE UPDATE THIS, IS, UH, WE WANT THE BLUE BAR TO, UH, VASTLY OUTPACE THE RED BAR, WHICH IS TOTAL ATTRITIONS, UH, SO FAR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET. UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT FOUR ADDITIONAL CLASSES, ONE IN JANUARY, ONE IN APRIL, UH, ONE IN JUNE, AND ONE IN SEPTEMBER. AND, UH, WE ARE PROJECTING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS PROJECTING 177, UH, GRADUATED CADETS NEXT YEAR. SO OUR VACANCY OUTLOOK LET'S, UH, THIS TAKES INTO ACCOUNT NORMAL ATTRITION, UH, AND HIRES. BUT HOW MANY POSITIONS DO WE HAVE VACANT? UM, WE STARTED THE YEAR WITH 174 VACANCIES, OR A, UH, ROUGHLY A LITTLE OVER 7% VACANCY RATE. UH, AS OF, UH, THIS MORNING, WE ARE AT 129 VACANCIES, UH, OR 5.2% VACANCY RATE. WE'RE PROJECTING AT THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, ONCE WE HAVE THE JULY AND THE SEPTEMBER CLASSES HIRED, UH, TO BE AT 4.1% OR 99 VACANCIES. AND THEN AS WE LAYER IN AND PROJECT FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, THROUGH MIDWAY, MIDWAY NEXT FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE PROJECTING 37 AND THEN ENDING THE YEAR STRONG, UH, WITH, UH, SOMETHING LESS THAN, UH, 1514. THIS IS ANOTHER SLIDE YOU MAY RECALL FROM LAST YEAR. UM, UH, THIS MEASURES THE AUTHORIZED STRENGTH VERSUS ACTUAL STRENGTH. AND PART OF THE GOAL THAT THE DEPARTMENT UNDERTOOK THIS YEAR WAS TO FILL VACANCIES. UM, AND AS WE STAND TODAY, WE HAVE 2,316 OF OUR 2,445 POSITIONS FILLED. UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN THAT HIGH, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE CHART SINCE, UH, 2013. UH, IN TERMS OF ACTUAL NUMBERS, UH, THE CHIEF, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT STAFF, AND IN PARTICULAR, FRANKLY, THE, THE RECRUITING STAFF HAVE MADE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS THIS YEAR. UM, HOWEVER, WE DO NEED TO FINISH VERY STRONG FOR THE REMAINING TWO CLASSES, AND WE NEED TO HIT THE GROUND, UH, RUNNING AND CONTINUE THAT TREND. UH, WITH THE FOUR CLASSES NEXT YEAR, THE PLAN IS TO, UH, CONTINUE TO ACTIVELY MARKET AND RECRUIT HERE IN TOWN, OUT OF TOWN, AND SPECIFICALLY THE MILITARY. UH, THE DEPARTMENT WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, DO TARGETED MEDIA PLACEMENTS. UH, AS PART OF THE MID-YEAR BUDGET, UH, WE REALLOCATED MONEY WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO INCREASE THAT MARKETING BUDGET BY $90,000 WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. THE DEPARTMENT IS ALSO, UH, PROPOSING TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THE HIRING BONUS OF $5,000 FOR RECRUITS AND $7,500 FOR, UH, ANYBODY WITH THE PRIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT OR MILITARY VETS. UH, AND FINALLY, UH, WE, WE WOULD, UH, PROPOSE TO CONTINUE TO OFFER THE HOME ASSISTANCE PROGRAM THAT GIVES FORGIVABLE LOANS TO, UH, OFFICERS WHO PURCHASE HOMES IN THE CITY LIMITS, UH, $7,500, UH, IF [01:10:01] YOU'RE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, AND 15,000 IF YOU'RE WITHIN LOOP FOUR 10. SO THAT'S THE CURRENT STATE OF OUR, UH, OUTCOMES WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND, UH, OUR POSITIONS. AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE FINAL PRESENTER. UH, ALEX LOPEZ, OUR INTERIM CHIEF EQUITY OFFICER. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THIS IS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR UPDATE, WHICH WE'LL START WITH OUR FISCAL YEAR 2018 EQUITY STRATEGY, UM, AND AN UPDATE ON OUR SIX HIGH IMPACT INITIATIVES. I WILL ALSO EXPLAIN HOW WE ARE EMBEDDING EQUITY INTO THE FISCAL YEAR 19 BUDGET PROCESS, AND CONTINUE OUR COMMITMENT TO EQUITY THROUGH THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. THE CITY'S MISSION IS TO DELIVER QUALITY SERVICES AND COMMIT TO ACHIEVE SAN ANTONIO'S VISION OF PROSPERITY FOR OUR DIVERSE, VIBRANT, AND HISTORIC COMMUNITY. THE EQUITY OFFICE IS WORKING WITH CITY DEPARTMENTS AND COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO MAXIMIZE OUR IMPACT TOWARDS THIS VISION OF PROSPERITY. THESE PARTNERS INCLUDE SA 2020, THE SAN ANTONIO AREA FOUNDATION, UNITED WAY, AND OTHER FUNDERS IN THE COMMUNITY AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. PRIOR TO FISCAL YEAR 18, THE CITY HAS CONSIDERED DIFFERENT NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. FOR EXAMPLE, RESOURCES HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED TO ADDRESS CODE ENFORCEMENT, ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICE NEEDS AMONG SPECIFIC POPULATIONS AND GEOGRAPHIES. IN FISCAL YEAR 18, THE BUDGET INTENTIONALLY EMBEDDED EQUITY AS A STRATEGY BY ALLOCATING $35 MILLION OF ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE STREET MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. INSTEAD OF DIVIDING THE FUNDS ROUGHLY PROPORTIONATE ACROSS THE CITY, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED TO FIVE DISTRICTS BASED ON THE AVERAGE CONDITION OF THE STREETS. WHILE EQUITY BEGINS AS A PROCESS, A BUDGET ALLOCATION OR A DELIVERY OF CITY SERVICE EQUITY IS ACHIEVED WHEN OUTCOMES SHIFT. OUR COMMUNITY RESULTS. EQUITY MEANS THAT OUR POLICY MAKING SERVICE, DELIVERY AND DISTRIBUTION OF RESOURCES ACCOUNT FOR DIFFERENT HISTORIES, CHALLENGES AND NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SERVE. EQUITY DIFFERS FROM EQUALITY, WHICH TREATS EVERYONE THE SAME, DESPITE DISPARATE OUTCOMES. THIS, THIS GRAPHIC DESCRIBES, DESCRIBES THE BEST PRACTICES FOR INCORPORATING EQUITY IN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS. THE THREE CATEGORIES OF WORK NORMALIZING, ORGANIZING AND OPERATIONALIZING ARE ACTUALLY CYCLICAL AND BUILD ON EACH OTHER. THE ALSO CENTER AROUND VISUALIZING THE EQUITABLE OUTCOMES WE WANT TO SEE FOR OUR COMMUNITY. AS PART OF OUR NORMALIZING EFFORTS, THE EQUITY OFFICE PROVIDES TRAINING SEMINARS ON IMPLICIT BIAS, THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN PROMOTING EQUITY AND COMMUN COMMUNICATION STRATEGIES. TO DATE, WE'VE TRAINED OVER A HUNDRED STAFF TO HELP SET THE STAGE FOR EQUITY CONVERSATIONS AND OUR WORK. OUR TRAINING ALSO COVERS HOW TO ASSESS THE IMPACT OF OUR PROGRAMS, POLICIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT EVERY LEVEL OF DECISION MAKING IN OUR ORGANIZATION WORKS TO MAKE THE GREATEST IMPACT, THE CITY IS USING AN EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT. THIS TOOL IS CHAMPIONED BY THE GOVERNMENT ALLIANCE ON RACE AND EQUITY, A NATIONAL MEMBERSHIP ORGANIZATION FOR JURISDICTIONS COMMITTED, COMMITTED TO ADVANCING EQUITY. THIS MOVEMENT IS TAKING PLACE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS PROUD TO BE A PART OF IT. SINCE FISCAL YEAR 17, A TOTAL OF 11 CITY DEPARTMENTS HAVE ENGAGED IN THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TO MORE EFFECTIVELY DEFINE, DESIGN, AND IMPLEMENT SPECIFIC PROGRAMS. NORMALIZING THIS APPROACH AMONG OUR STAFF IS CRITICAL, WHICH IS WHY WE ARE CONTINUING, CONTINUING OUR TACTIC OF WORKING WITH SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS TO BUILD THEIR CAPACITY TO USE THIS TOOL. IN FISCAL YEAR 18, WE'VE FACILITATED WORK SESSIONS ON THE EQUI EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT TOOL WITH STAFF FROM HUMAN SERVICES PLANNING, NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING SERVICES, GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS, THE BUDGET OFFICE AND T C I INNOVATION, AND I T SS D, WHICH REPRESENT ALL OF THE INITIATIVES LISTED ON THIS SLIDE. THE RESULTS OF OUR WORK WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 19 BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS MADE BY THESE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IN TURN MOVES US FORWARD INTO THE OPERATIONALIZATION STAGE OF OUR APPROACH TO FURTHER INCORPORATE EQUITY INTO OUR DAY-TO-DAY WORK. WE'VE ASKED ALL DEPARTMENTS TO DEVELOP THEIR WHY STATEMENT. THESE STATEMENTS DIFFER FROM TYPICAL MISSION STATEMENTS IN THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY EXPLAIN WHAT WE DO OR HOW WE DO IT, [01:15:01] BUT INSTEAD, FOCUS ON WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO. WE'VE ALSO ASKED DEPARTMENTS TO COMPLETE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENTS FOR PROGRAM CHANGES RECOMMENDED IN FISCAL YEAR NINE, IN THE FISCAL YEAR 19 PROPOSED BUDGET. OUR FOCUS WILL REMAIN ON ORGANIZING OUR RESOURCES TOWARDS SHORT, MID, AND LONG-TERM GOALS. IN CLOSING, OUR NEXT STEPS ARE TO CONTINUE WITH TRAINING OUR DEPARTMENTS, COLLABORATING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS, AND OPERATIONALIZING AND SCALING OUR EQUITY STRATEGY ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. OKAY. UH, NOW WE GET READY TO TURN TOWARD THE Q AND A PORTION WHERE WE INVITE BACK ANY OF THE, THE FOLKS THAT, UH, YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE FROM AND, AND GET, UH, CLARIFYING INFORMATION. UH, IN A MOMENT, WE'RE GONNA BE GOING TO A BREAK, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I ACTUALLY WANNA COLLECT THE FIRST ROUND OF REQUESTS FOR CALLBACKS SO THAT THOSE FOLKS CAN KIND OF SLOT AND COME UP. SO, COUNCIL IRAN, WHO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE BACK UP FRONT? I'D LIKE TO SEE, UM, PETER ZONI COME BACK UP AND GIVE THAT WHOLE FIRST INTRO. HE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ABOUT 400 MILLION FOR HOUSING. I NEED TO HEAR THAT AGAIN, THE CLARIFICATION, PLEASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, WE'RE ACTUALLY NOT GONNA DO IT UNTIL AFTER THE BREAK. WE'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST QUEUING UP OUR BATTING ORDER. COUNCILMAN KIRCH, I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ALL OF THEM, , SO I'D LIKE 'EM ALL TO COME BACK. UH, COULD YOU START WITH ONE ? OKAY. UH, T C I, UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM SIDEWALK. AGREE. GREAT, THANK YOU. WHO'S GO NEXT? COUNCILMAN S THANKS FRANCISCO. UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO ASK MIKE IF HE COULD ADDRESS WHEN HE COMES BACK UP THE, UH, SCORING AND PRIORITIZATION FOR, UH, SIDEWALKS. AND MAYBE, UH, EXPLAIN IF THAT'S JUST SIDEWALKS OR ALL INFRASTRUCTURE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SCORING PRIORITIZATION. AND, AND NUMBER TWO, I'LL ASK MARIA A. LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, THE OTHER REVENUE SOURCES THAT ARE NOT SALES PROPERTY OR C P S. COUNCILMAN PERRY? YES. UM, BEN GOEL HOME. CAN YOU GUESS? HOME STATE EXEMPTION. AND THEN, UM, ALSO, UM, ERIC ON THE, UH, POLICE AND FIRE. THANK YOU. ONE MORE, AARON. OKAY. COUNCIL, UH, THANK YOU. COULD I HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UM, THE OPERATIONALIZING OF THE EQUITY IMPACT ASSESSMENTS? OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO WITH THAT, WE WILL ADJOURN FOR A 15 MINUTE BREAK. WE'LL GET BACK AT, AT, AT, UH, 10 45, AND WE'LL START WITH PETER ZANI. SO THANK YOU FOR ADJOURN. YES, YES. [01:20:23] ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA RESUME. SO IF I CAN INVITE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE THEIR WAY BACK UP TO THE TABLE, WE'LL GET STARTED. INVITE THE MEMBERS OF OUR AUDIENCE. HAPPY HOUR BE AT FOUR 30. UNTIL THEN YOU CAN TAKE YOUR CONVERSATIONS OUT INTO THE HALLWAY. EVERYONE ELSE COULD PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS. FIRST ROUND IS ON COUNCILMAN PERRY. HE JUST GRACIOUSLY OFFERED. THAT'S WONDERFUL. SO, IF I CAN HAVE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER, PLEASE RETURN TO THE TABLE AND WE'LL BEGIN WITH Q AND A. GREAT AUDIENCE. THANK YOU FOR OBLIGING. SO, UH, A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR MY OVERSIGHT EARLIER FOR MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. ROOM 2 21 A HAS BEEN RESERVED FOR YOUR EXCLUSIVE USE. SO IF YOU NEED TO STEP AWAY TO TAKE A PHONE CALL OR ENGAGE IN PRIVATE CONVERSATION, 2 21 A IS FOR YOUR EXCLUSIVE USE. PLEASE, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. UH, LUNCH WILL BE PROVIDED IN 2 21 B, THE NEXT ROOM OVER. UH, AND THEN OF COURSE, HOPEFULLY BY NOW YOU'VE ALREADY FOUND THE RESTROOMS. I HATE TO THINK THAT MY LACK OF INFORMATION ON THAT CAUSED YOU ANY PROBLEMS. ALRIGHT. AND THEN, UH, THE LAST ITEM, I WOULD SAY THE, UH, HOSPITALITY SET UP OVER HERE IN THE FRONT OF THE ROOM IS EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PRESENTING STAFF FOR EVERYONE ELSE, THERE ARE THE ITEMS IN THE BACK. SO IF YOU ARE, UH, OVER HERE IN THE FRONT ROW, THOSE ARE NOT FOR YOU. RIGHT? UH, SO AS WE GET READY TO ENGAGE THE Q AND A WITH OUR PRESENTERS, UH, JUST A REMINDER ON PROCESS FOR THIS SEGMENT, WE'RE REALLY ASKING, UH, THAT, THAT YOU FOCUS ON CLARIFYING QUESTIONS. SO ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU NEED TO, TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF, UH, WHAT YOU'RE CURIOUS ABOUT. BUT LET'S WAIT TO ENGAGE ONE ANOTHER IN DISCUSSION ON THAT TOPIC UNTIL THE NEXT SEGMENT SO WE CAN COMPLETE THE Q AND A AND REALLY HAVE ROOM TO HAVE THAT, THAT FREE RANGING DISCUSSION BETWEEN MEMBERS OF COUNCIL. THAT MAKE SENSE? YES. GREAT. SO, I WILL INVITE UP PETER ZONI TO THANK YOU, FRANCISCO. UH, SO I'LL REPEAT THE COUNCILWOMAN, UM, WHO ASKED THE QUESTION, UM, MY OPENING STATEMENTS. SO WE LOOKED AT WHAT DOES THE CITY, UH, HAVE IN OUR BUDGET TODAY FOR HOUSING ACTIVITIES AS, AS WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE. AND TODAY, THE CITY HAS CLOSE TO $100 MILLION, 100 MILLION, UH, BOTH IN THE FORM OF TAX ABATEMENT, UH, NOT ABATEMENTS TAX, UH, FREEZES AND TAX EXEMPTIONS, AND THEN DIRECT SPENDING. SO OF THE 100 MILLION, 47 MILLION IS IN THE FORM OF PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. THAT'S WHAT BEN GOEL COVERED. THAT INCLUDES, UM, TAX EXEMPTIONS IN OUR SENIOR TAX FREEZE OF OUR DIRECT INVESTMENT. THAT'S 52 MILLION. AND MOST OF THAT IS IN OUR FEDERAL DOLLARS. SO OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT, OUR HOME GRANTS, UH, THAT FUNDS MOST OF OUR HOUSING ACTIVITIES TODAY, BOTH NEW CONSTRUCTION, UH, FUNDING GAPS, UH, AND INFRASTRUCTURE PREP FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS, AS WELL AS SUPPORT SERVICES AND OTHER ELEMENTS SUCH AS THAT. IN OUR GENERAL FUND, WE HAVE $12 MILLION OF THAT 100 MILLION, OR REALLY OF THE 52 MILLION, 12 MILLION OF THAT IS IN THE GENERAL FUND. AND MOST OF THAT, ABOUT HALF OF THAT IS FOR HAVEN FOR HOPE ALONE. SO THE REMAINING 6 MILLION INCLUDES, UH, SOME PROGRAMS TO INCLUDE THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, UH, THAT'S FUNDED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. UH, LET'S PAINT DISTRICT FIVE AS ANOTHER PROJECT THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND AS A FEW EXAMPLES. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND AS A REMINDER AS WELL, , UH, IF YOU'D BE SURE WHEN YOU, UH, MAKE COMMENTS OR POST QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN HIT THE MIC SWITCH IN FRONT OF YOU SO THAT WE, WE CAPTURE THAT INSIGHT. AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, ALL OF THE SLIDES THAT WE'VE SEEN TODAY ARE IN ONE CONSOLIDATED PRESENTATION. AND YOU'LL SEE THE SLIDE NUMBER IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER. SO IF YOU HAVE A PARTICULAR, UH, SLIDE THAT, THAT YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT YOU WANTED TO BE ADDRESSED, IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW THE PAGE NUMBER, UH, SO THAT ZACH AND OUR TEAM IN THE BACK CAN PULL THAT UP TO REFERENCE. SO, ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR PETERS AND NONI, WHAT WE GOT? COUNCILMAN ? UH, YES, PETER, I CAN INVITE YOU BACK, [01:25:01] PETER, ON PAGE 51. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, THIS IS A CLARIFYING QUESTION. I WANNA UNDERSTAND, UH, THE, UH, THE STATISTICS THAT YOU ARE, THAT YOU ARE PORTRAYING TO US HERE. OKAY. YOU HAVE TOLD US THAT FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WITH, WITH REGARD TO THE CONVERSATION ON HOUSING, THE HOUSING TASK FORCE HAS DRILLED DOWN TO NUMBERS TO TELL US THAT THE, THE HEAVIER BURDEN, NAMELY THAT WHICH FOLKS ARE SPENDING MORE THAN 30%, THAT BURDEN, UH, IF WE LOOKED AT THE UNIVERSE OF POPULATION, THAT MOST OF THEM ARE RENTERS AS OPPOSED TO SINGLE FAMILY OWNERS. THAT'S CORRECT. COUNCILMAN, AND, AND IS THIS SLIDE TELLING ME THAT, UH, AS YOU GET, AS, AS YOU BECOME MORE LOWER INCOME, SO 30% A M I, 30 TO 60% A M I, IT IS MAKING A GREATER PORTION OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT UNIVERSE WHO ARE RENTERS WHO ARE PAYING OVER 30%? THAT'S CORRECT. AGAIN, SO, UH, THE 12,500 REPRESENTS THE FOLKS WHO ARE AT, UH, JUST BELOW A M I 45,000, 48,000, UH, MAKING, MAKING LESS THAN 80% OF THAT. THERE'S ONLY 12,000 OF THOSE. BUT IF YOU WERE TO STRIKE DOWN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FOLKS WHO ARE MAKING 30% OR LESS OF A M I AND OUR RENTERS, THAT'S CLOSE TO 40,000 PEOPLE WHO, UH, ARE IN THOSE? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. YES, SIR. SO AT THAT 30 TO 60% A M I, THAT'S ABOUT FOUR, THAT'S A HOUSEHOLD OF FOUR IS MAKING 40,000 ANNUALLY. SO WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT THE PREPONDERANCE OF THOSE THAT ARE COST BURDEN, JUST AS YOU HAVE BEEN ARTICULATING, ARE IN THE LOWER INCOME CATEGORY, UH, MEANING THE SPENDING MORE THAN THAT 30, 30% OF THEIR INCOME ON HOUSING. AND THEN THAT LEAVES LESS, LESS MONEY FOR THEM MONTHLY FOR OTHER NECESSITIES LIKE TRANSPORTATION, EVEN FOOD IF IT'S A SENIOR OR SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS MEDICATION, MEDICATION. SO WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY CUT BACK IN OTHER AREAS MM-HMM. , UH, TO AFFORD THE HOUSING. THEY MAY NOT FILL THE PRESCRIPTIONS, THEY MAY NOT BE EATING THE BEST FOOD, AND THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE. SO THEY'RE PROBABLY USING VIA AND, AND THE TASK FORCE, WHICH IS COMING TOGETHER AGAIN THIS SATURDAY MM-HMM. , UH, HASN'T YET SET OUT ITS RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT HAS HAD SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WILL BE PROVIDING SOME OF THOSE PRESCRIPTIONS TO US. YES. ON SATURDAY, THEY'LL BE, UH, SHARING WITH THE, WITH THE RESIDENTS THAT SHOW UP SOME OF THEIR PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUPS, UH, HAD RECOMMENDED TO THE TASK FORCE. AND THEY'LL ASK FOR RESIDENT COMMENT ON WHICH ONE OF THESE RESONATE WITH YOU, OR WHICH ONE IS MOST IMPORTANT TO YOU. THAT'LL HAPPEN THIS SATURDAY. OKAY. THANK YOU, PETER. YES, SIR. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR PETER. COUNCIL. THANK YOU. KIND ON A SIMILAR, OH, I'M SORRY. SORRY. THAT'S YOUR COUNCIL ON, UH, THANK YOU, PETER. JUST ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION. YOU TALKED ABOUT LOSING HOME OWNERS, RIGHT? COULD YOU, ARE WE, ARE WE JUST REDUCING THE RATE AT WHICH THAT'S GROWING? OR DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE FEWER NUMBERS OF HOMEOWNERS? COULD YOU REVIEW THAT? RIGHT. IT'S THE LA YEAH, RIGHT, THE LATTER. UH, THE LATTER IS, IS ACCURATE. SO WORKING WITH ONE OF OUR CONSULTANTS WITH THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE, THE DATA SHOWED, AND HE SHARED IT WITH US. UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS THAT WE'RE LOSING HOMEOWNERS IN SAN ANTONIO, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, FOR TWO REASONS. ONE, A LOT OF PEOPLE BUYING HOMES TODAY THAT ARE AFFORDABLE OR ACTUALLY BUYING THEM OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, UH, IN UNINCORPORATED BEAR COUNTY. SO A LOT OF NEW HOME OWNERSHIP IS HAPPENING IN UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF THE COUNTY, NOT IN OUR CITY LIMITS, BUT WITHIN OUR CITY LIMITS. UM, FEWER PEOPLE ARE TAKING OUT A MORTGAGE, UH, TO BUY A NEW HOME. AND THAT NUMBER HAS DECREASED FROM 61%, HAVING A MORTGAGE DOWN TO 54%. SO, SO FEWER PEOPLE LIVING IN SAN ANTONIO ARE LIVING IN A HOME. MOST OF THEM ARE RENTING AT THIS POINT. SO THAT'S NOT OFFSET BY OUR INCREASE IN POPULATION. IT IS, BUT PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TO, OR CAN ONLY AFFORD TO LIVE IN A, AN APARTMENT. UH, THERE ARE A, A, THERE ARE STILL MORE HOMEOWNERS THAN APARTMENT, UH, LIVER, UH, PEOPLE LIVING IN APARTMENTS, BUT THE NUMBER OF HOMEOWNERS IS DECREASING. SO PEOPLE ARE SHIFTING MORE TO LIVING IN AN APARTMENT OR LIVING OUTSIDE THE CITY. LIMITS, LIMITS AND THESE UNINCORPORATED AREAS OF TOWN WHERE THE HOMES, UM, TRACK HOMES CAN BE LESS EXPENSIVE. MM-HMM. COUNCIL, REALLY, IT WAS, IT WAS VERY SIMILAR QUESTION. MM-HMM. , I, I DO WANNA MENTION THAT, UH, BEN GO'S SLIDES OF THE HOMESTEAD MAP, I THINK CORRELATE TO A LOT OF WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PETER, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK A LOT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THAT HOMESTEAD MEANS IN TERMS OF STABILIZATION OF HOUSING AND HOW IT RELATES TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. PETER, I, WE ARE SEEING THAT, THAT THERE'S A DECLINE IN, IN KNOW, OWNERSHIP, BUT HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT ACTUALLY IMPACT THE, THE RISING PROPERTY VALUES? BECAUSE THERE IS NOT [01:30:01] A HOMESTEAD ATTACHED TO, OR THERE'S A RE A REDUCTION IN, IN HOMESTEAD AS WELL, SO, RIGHT. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT. 'CAUSE YOU, YOUR PA UH, PAGE 56, YOU TALK ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S LOSING HOMEOWNERS MM-HMM. , I THINK, AND, AND PART OF THAT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S CORRELATED WITH THE, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AS WELL. IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE LOSING A LOT IN, IN TERMS OF THE HOMESTEAD. UH, THE OVER 65 EXEMPTION ALSO, I THINK CAN, CAN, UH, SHOW US A LOT. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT YEAH. WHAT THAT OVER 65 IS REALLY DOING. WHILE IT DOES FREEZE, THE TAX PAYMENT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FREEZE THE VALUE. SO THERE'S JUST A LOT TO CORRELATE THERE. RIGHT? THERE IS COUNCILMAN. SO IT HAS AN IM, IT COULD HAVE A LONG-TERM IMPACT ON THE CITY'S BUDGET FROM OUR PROPERTY TAX AS YOU'RE SPEAKING OF, UH, IT ALSO WHERE, WHERE OUR COMMUNITY IS INVESTING THEIR MONEY. IF YOU, IF YOU OWN YOUR OWN HOME AND YOU MAY HAVE A LOCAL MORTGAGE, UH, YOU'RE BUYING THINGS HERE LOCALLY. IF YOU'RE RENTING A LOT OF YOUR INVESTMENT IS, A LOT OF YOUR PAYMENT IS GOING TO, UH, WALL STREET, UH, FOLKS WHO OWN OR WHO HAVE, UH, FLOATED THE MONEY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MULTIFAMILY PROJECT. AND SO FEWER HOMEOWNERS MEANS FEWER, UH, LESS INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL. PLUS THAT PROPERTY TAX ISSUE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, . THANKS, PETER. A, A, A COMMENT AND A SUGGESTION, UH, MORE THAN A, A, A QUESTION, UH, AS WE HEARD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING 150 SOMETHING PEOPLE A DAY. WE'VE ADDED THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE TO OUR RULES. THAT'S NOT A PHENOMENON THAT'S GONNA CHANGE ANYTIME SOON. WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SEE MORE OF THOSE. I GET IT. THERE'S A GAP BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, HOUSING STOCK AND THE DEMAND. THERE'S ALSO A GAP BETWEEN, UH, VALUES AND, YOU KNOW, INCOME. ALL THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE. THE ONE THING THAT I SEE MISSING FROM THE, THE PRESENTATION, HOWEVER, IS THE ROLE THAT, UM, AVALOR TAXATION VALUATIONS, UM, HAVE ON, UM, AFFORDABILITY, RIGHT? MM-HMM. AND SORT OF WHETHER OR NOT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PRACTICES AT OUR TAX ASSESSOR DEPARTMENT IS IMPACTING THE AFFORDABILITY AND WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT IN BEXAR COUNTY THAN WE WOULD BE DOING IN OTHER COUNT THAT OTHER COUNTIES ARE SEEING, RIGHT? AND SO MM-HMM. , I, I, I UNDERSTAND THE SAN ANTONIO PROBLEM, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT VIS-A-VIS THE, UM, INCREASED DEMAND BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE QUITE HONESTLY LIVING LONGER ALSO, RIGHT? MM-HMM. . AND SO IT USED TO BE THAT YOU CAN EXPECT FOLKS TO LIVE UP TO, YOU KNOW, 70, 75, RIGHT? AND TODAY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SEEING FOLKS LIVING PAST 90, YOU KNOW, HITTING A HUNDRED, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE ALSO HEALTHIER. AND SO THEY'RE CONSUMING MORE AND MORE SERVICES AROUND SAN ANTONIO, AND THEY'RE EXPECTING MORE OUT OF THEIR HOUSING. AND SO, UM, FOR LOW INCOME HOUSING STOCK, OR WHAT WE'RE CALLING IT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING STOCK, RIGHT? IF I'M A DEVELOPER, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA BUILD IT, RIGHT? AND IF I'M A DEVELOPER, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THE, DOES THE MATH WORK BETTER IN AUSTIN OR HOUSTON? AM I GONNA MAKE, YOU KNOW, UH, TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING VERSUS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE OF THE TREATMENT THAT I'M GONNA GET, YOU KNOW, BY WAY OF AVALOR TAXATION VALUATIONS? AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG QUESTION MARK FOR ME. AND I, AND IT'S AN, THE PRESENTATION TO ME IS MISSING A SLIDE, RIGHT? UM, IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. AND SO SOMETHING FOR MAYBE POSSIBLE FUTURE DISCUSSIONS, BUT I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T DO THIS MATH PROBLEM WITHOUT THAT ONE X ANSWERED. THANK YOU. OKAY. NO, WE'LL LOOK AT, YEAH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. WE CAN WORK WITH, UM, WITH BEN AND, AND OUR CONSULTANT AS WELL TO LOOK INTO THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL? UH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL HOUSING FUNDING BUILT INTO THE PROJECTED BUDGET OVER LAST YEAR? NO. YEAH. NO, WE DO NOT. YEAH. SO IT'S THAT, BUT WE, IT IS, BUT WE'D LIKE POLICY DIRECTION TODAY ON WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD WANT US TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TASK FORCE THAT WILL BE COMING OUT LATER THIS MONTH, AND TO DEVELOP A BUSINESS PLAN IN CONJUNCTION WITH THEM TO MAKE A BUDGET PROPOSAL. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TODAY FROM YOU ALL, NOT NECESSARILY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, RIGHT? BUT TO SAY, YES, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE US WORK TOWARD INCORPORATING SOMETHING WITHIN THIS PROPOSED BUDGET. OKAY. CAN I JUST ADD, CAN I JUST ADD ALSO, CHERYL, THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR HUD GRANTS, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT AND HOME GRANTS, UH, FOR OCTOBER ONE THIS YEAR, THERE WILL BE MORE MO MORE MONEY AVAILABLE IN THOSE TWO GRANTS. UM, ONE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GA UH, UH, ALLOCATED A MILLION DOLLARS MORE TO US, UH, JUST IN C D B G ALONE AND MORE IN HOME, ALSO IN THOSE TWO PROGRAMS, MONEY IS [01:35:01] BEING, UM, FREED UP, IF YOU WILL, FROM PRIOR OBLIGATIONS. UH, SO AS AN EXAMPLE, WE HAVE BEEN PAYING OFF OUR HUD 1 0 8 LOAN THAT WILL BE REFINANCED, UH, THROUGH OUR, UH, PROPERTY TAX DEBT SERVICE. SO THAT FREES UP $4.2 MILLION FOR HOUSING ACTIVITIES. ALSO, THE EAST POINT COMMITMENT IS, IS, UH, COMPLETED WITH THIS, THIS FINAL PAYMENT THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S 2.5 MILLION NOW THAT WE CAN FREE UP FOR ADDITIONAL HOUSING ACTIVITIES. UH, SO THOSE GRANTS HAVE, UH, MORE MONEY AVAILABLE, UH, FOR HOUSING. BUT IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL FUND, THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MONEY AT THIS POINT. OKAY. I, I JUST ADD TO THAT, PETER, THAT WHAT WE WOULD HOPE WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL FEDERAL FUNDS IS THAT WE COULD ALIGN THAT, THOSE BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE HOUSING TASK FORCE, RIGHT? MM-HMM. , I NOTICED ONE OF THE, UH, ONE OF THE SLIDES YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THE A M I AND HOW MANY, FOR EXAMPLE, RENTERS MORE THAN 50%, RIGHT? THAT WAS A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER OF RENTERS, UH, LIVE BELOW 60% A M I DOWN TO EVEN 30% A M I. UH, HOW ABOUT, UH, NEW HOMES, UH, OR HOME OWNERSHIP? UH, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW MANY OF OUR HOMEOWNERS ARE, WHO ARE DISTRESSED OR WHO ARE HAVING DI DIFFICULTIES OR IN A SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE THEY NEED TO HAVE 60% OR LESS OF A M I TO GET BY? I DO, COUNCILMAN, IF I CAN FIND IT THOUGH, IS THE QUESTION. UM, 'CAUSE WE, I THINK WE SAW SOMETHING LIKE 70,000 RENTERS OR, OR MORE THAN THAT, RIGHT? 75,000 RENTERS. AND, AND THE REASON WHY I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE TOO MANY OF THE PROJECTS, I THINK WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TO SUPPORT AS A CITY HAVE HAD, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT 80% OF A M I AND WE SEE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING, UH, JUST TO GET BY AT 60%. AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. YEAH. UH, COUNCILMAN, LET ME, I DON'T WANNA WASTE YOUR TIME. I DO HAVE OKAY. CAN SEND TO ME. I DO THOSE NUMBERS, BUT I'LL, NO, I'LL COME BACK UP WHEN I, WHEN I HAVE IT. I, I HAVE IT HERE. I SPOKE, UH, YESTERDAY WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO GET THAT. UH, SO I'LL PROVIDE THAT TO YOU MOMENTARILY. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU, PETER, UH, REAL QUICK, I, I'M GONNA KIND OF JUMP WITH COUNCILMAN PALS TO ASK FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION. WHEN I, WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE, THE PRESENTATION, THE PIECES ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN INCOMPLETE INFORMATION WISE. SO I WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN ALSO LEARNING WHAT GOVERNMENT REGULATION HAS DONE TO PRICE PEOPLE OUT OF HOMES. THAT INCLUDES BOTH ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL. SO I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE IN THE LOCAL LEVEL. I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. YOU SAID WE HAVE FEWER PEOPLE WHO ARE OWNING HOMES. WELL, YOU PUT ON THERE 2005 TO 2016, AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU, AND I SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN A MORTGAGE BUSINESS DURING THAT TIME PERIOD. AND THE REASON PEOPLE ARE, WE HAVE LESS HOME OWNERSHIP. BUT THE PRIME REASON IS BECAUSE IT BECAME IMPOSSIBLE TO QUALIFY FOR THE MORTGAGES ONCE WE RIGHT SIZED THE MORTGAGE, UH, QUALIFICATION SYSTEM AFTER THE CRASH IN 2008. SO THERE ARE MITIGATING FACTORS WHY SOMEONE CANNOT AFFORD A HOME. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAGES, IT'S ALSO BECAUSE, UH, DODD-FRANK CAME IN, MADE IT THAT MUCH MORE STRINGENT AND PEOPLE COULD NOT QUALIFY. SO WHEN I JUST SEE WE HAVE FEWER HOMES THAN WE DID 16 VERSUS OH FIVE, THAT'S A VERY INCOMPLETE STATEMENT. SO IF WE, AS WE GO FORWARD AND WE START DIGGING INTO THE H HOUSING POLICY, TASK FORCE ISSUES, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT OTHER ITEMS, REGULATIONS, THINGS THAT GOVERNMENT IS DOING THAT ARE DECREASING HOME OWNERSHIP. AND THAT WAS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE. SO WE PROBABLY ARE SEEING A MASSIVE DROP IN IT BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T QUALIFY. AND RIGHTFULLY SO, THEY QUALIFIED FOR MORTGAGES AND HOME OWNERSHIP WAS HIGH, AND YOU HAVE THAT SHOWN THERE, BUT THEN A DECREASE BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD A MORTGAGE TO BEGIN WITH. SO THERE'S A LOT OF PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN, IN QUALIFICATIONS AND INCOME, CREDIT SCORE, OTHER THING. SO I THINK WE SHOULD BE VERY CAREFUL TO LIST OUT OTHER MITIGATING FACTORS THAT INHIBIT HOME OWNERSHIP. AND THEN THE SECOND PIECE WOULD BE, I'D WANT TO KNOW IN THAT SAME TIME PERIOD, WHAT HAS THE CITY DONE TO INCREASE THE COST OF A HOME? SO YOU CAN HELP PEOPLE QUALIFY FOR IT BY GIVING 'EM GRANTS AND OTHER THINGS. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW CAN WE DEREGULATE TO DECREASE THE COST OF A HOME? 'CAUSE IF BY ALL METRICS, PEOPLE I TALK TO, THEY'LL SAY THAT BETWEEN 20 AND $25,000 HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE COST OF A HOME OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS. THAT THAT'S A GENERALLY ACCEPTED NUMBER THROUGH FEES, REGULATIONS, TREE CANOPIES, IMPERVIOUS COVER, ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE MAKING THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY DO. SO I'D LIKE TO QUANTIFY THAT. LIKE, LET'S, LET'S SEE IF THEY'RE RIGHT, WHAT THEY'RE TELLING US, RIGHT? THAT WE ARE MAKING THE HOME MORE EXPENSIVE, THEREFORE PRICING PEOPLE OUT OF IT. SO THE ANSWER TO THAT IS DEREGULATION. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS THE ONLY ANSWER TO THE HOUSING CRISIS IS NOT LET'S START SPENDING MILLIONS TO HELP PEOPLE GET QUALIFIED. [01:40:01] NO, NO. THE AN THERE'S A MULTI-PRONGED APPROACH, AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DATA, UH, GOING FORWARD. SO MORE MITIGATING FACTORS ON WHY PEOPLE CANNOT QUALIFY. AND REALLY, IT'S AN INWARD FINGER POINTING AT OURSELVES AS A GOVERNMENT, WHAT ARE WE DOING AND WHAT ARE THOSE REAL COSTS WE'RE ADDING? YEAH, I, I AGREE. COUNCILMAN ONE OF THE FIVE TECHNICAL WORKING GROUPS THAT THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE CONVENED, UH, WAS JUST THAT, IT WAS REMOVING BARRIERS TO HOUSING TO INCLUDE WHAT IS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, OUR GOVERNMENT PLACED ON, UH, HOMEOWNER BUILDERS. UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THE TASK FORCE, UH, THAT, UH, THAT WORK GROUP HAVE. AND SPECIFICALLY I WANT TO, I'M ASKING FOR THAT INFORMATION LIKE WHAT HAVE WE DONE AS A, THE CITY DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR THAT WE'VE INCREASED THE COST OF A HOME, AND HOW CAN WE DEREGULATE THAT? 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO CREATE NEW DEBT AND OTHER INSTRUMENTS TO FUND THIS, TO, TO FIX THIS HOUSING GAP. WE CAN, CAN DECREASE COSTS IN MULTIPLE AREAS AND, AND INCENTIVIZE THAT BUILDING AND GROWTH. THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M DIGGING. I'M REALLY LOOKING FOR THAT, THOSE SPECIFICS. YEAH. IT'S NOT A NOW CONVERSATION. IT'S A LENGTHY TIME. WE'LL GET, WE HAVE DATA ON THAT, SO WE'LL GET THAT POINT. WE HAVE FINDINGS FROM YEAH, YOU'RE GOOD. YEAH. IT'S JUST A LONG-TERM THOUGHT BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO SEE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND STUFF, BUT RIGHT. THE MAYOR'S HOUSING POLICY TASK WAS RECOMMENDATIONS. OUR COMPREHENSIVE, THAT'S ONE OF THEIR GOALS. SO IT INCLUDES THAT AREA, REMOVING BARRIERS TO HOUSING. YEAH. SO YOU'LL SEE MORE OF THAT. I DO HAVE COUNCILMAN COURAGE YOUR INFORMATION HERE. SO, UH, I'M GONNA JUST START WITH RENTERS. SO THE RENTERS AT A COST BURDEN IS ABOUT 107,000, RIGHT? ON THE HOMEOWNER, THERE'S ABOUT 48,000 THAT A COST BURDEN TODAY. AND, UH, THAT BREAKS DOWN WITH THE A M I, THE, UH, MAJORITY ARE, ARE IN THAT LOWER A M I. SO 30%, UH, OF THE A M I IS 13,000 HOMEOWNERS. UH, 30 TO 60% IS 15,000 MORE. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO, UH, 60 TO 80% THAT DROPS DOWN THEN TO 9,000 AND, UM, 80 TO 100, 120% IS 8,000. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE HOME OWNERS AT A COST BURDEN, AGAIN, ARE IN THAT LOWER, UH, A M I BRACKET. MM-HMM. . YES, SIR. GREAT. THANK YOU, PETER. SO NOW IF WE CAN INVITE MIKE FRISBEE TO COME ON UP, I WOULD ASK COUNCILMAN COURAGE. I KNOW YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY. DO YOU WANT, UH, JUST TO, I CAN, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, WE SPOKE ABOUT ADDING, UH, 11 MILLION ADDITIONAL FUNDS FOR STREETS. UH, AND YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT THE CONCEPT BEHIND IT WAS ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, AND SO I WANTED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ELABORATION ON THAT. SURE. IN OTHER WORDS, UH, ARE WE SAYING, UH, WE MIGHT SAY A MILLION DOLLARS TO 10 DISTRICTS AND THE OTHER MILLION MIGHT BE THROWN IN, IN GENERAL? OR ARE WE SAYING IT'S BASED ON CERTAIN STREET QUALIFICATIONS? SO, UH, UH, MAYOR COUNCIL, THAT THIS WOULD BE, THERE'S THREE OPTIONS HERE AND THERE. THERE MAY BE OTHERS AS WELL, UH, FOR FEEDBACK. AND ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY IS THAT CENTER OPTION, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT EQUITY. WHAT THAT IS, IS MORE EQUALITY. IT'S BASICALLY LOOKING AT THE TOTAL INVESTMENT OF ALL INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND MAKING SURE IT'S RELATIVELY EQUAL. SO BOND I M P, LINEAR CREEKWAY SYSTEM, TOTAL INVESTMENT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST. OKAY. UM, NOW, SO THAT'S AN APPROACH THAT THIS ADDITIONAL 11 MILLION COULD BE TREATED THAT WAY. WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING THAT THE FIRST OPTION THERE IS MORE OF THE EQUITY BASE. SO IT'S, IT IS TAKING A LOOK AT WHERE ARE THE GREATEST NEEDS IN EVERY DISTRICT, WHICH IS THE OLDEST PART OF EVERY DISTRICT. AND SO MOST DISTRICTS THAT'S INSIDE FOUR 10, EXCEPT FOR DISTRICTS EIGHT AND NINE, WHICH DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY, UH, JURISDICTION WITHIN FOUR 10, BUT ARE CLOSE. SO THIS WOULD BE TAKEN THAT 11 MILLION AND DISTRIBUTED IN ALL DISTRICTS IN THOSE OLDEST AREAS OF YOUR DISTRICTS TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE NEEDS THERE. SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. MIKE, COULD I JUST ADD TO THAT? SOME OF YOU SAID LAST YEAR WHEN WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DISTRICTS 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, AND 10, NO, 1, 2, 3, 5, AND 10 OF THE FIVE DISTRICTS THAT HAD THE BELOW 70 AVERAGE, UH, THAT, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE. I HAVE POCKETS WITHIN MY DISTRICT THAT NEED ATTENTION. SO THE CONCEPT WITH THE FIRST ALTERNATIVE IS THEN HOW DO I IDENTIFY THOSE POCKETS IN OTHER DISTRICTS THAT STILL NEED SOME ATTENTION? SO WE'RE TRYING TO RESPOND TO SOME OF WHAT YOU TALKED WITH US ABOUT. SO THAT WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO IDENTIFY THOSE AREAS WITH THAT ADDITIONAL 11 MILLION. UH, STILL RELATED TO THE SAME THING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RAISING [01:45:01] THE TOTAL TO HUNDRED AND 10 MILLION TO BE PUT INTO STREETS. NOW, TWO YEARS AGO, THAT TOTAL WAS AROUND 64 MILLION, I BELIEVE. AND THEN WE ADDED 35 MILLION THIS LAST YEAR. THAT MONEY CAME FROM SAVINGS IN PREVIOUS YEARS. WHERE IS THAT EXTRA 35 MILLION THAT WE'RE STILL GONNA SPEND THIS YEAR COMING FROM? AND WHERE IS IT GOING TO BE GOING TO? IS IT GOING TO BE GOING TO THOSE SAME FIVE DISTRICTS? AND IF SO, WHERE'S IT COMING FROM? YEAH, SO IT'S A COMBINATION. UH, MARIA, WHY DON'T YOU COME UP, UH, TO GET SPECIFIC ON EACH OF THE NUMBERS, BUT, UH, YOU'LL RECALL WE HAD A TWO YEAR PLAN TO GET THE AVERAGE FOR ALL DISTRICTS UP TO 70. IT WOULD RE REQUIRE REVENUES OF ABOUT 35 MILLION EACH YEAR TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO WE'RE IN YEAR TWO. UH, WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UH, SOME FUNDING FOR THAT. IN FACT, SOME OF OUR FUND BALANCE, WE'RE SLIGHTLY AHEAD ON REVENUE, SO WE'RE HOLDING THAT ASIDE TO BE ABLE TO USE THAT TOWARD THE 35 MILLION AND ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE BUDGET. IF YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE AND COMPLETE THAT TWO YEAR PROGRAM, UH, WE'LL WORK ON THE BUDGET TO IDENTIFY WHERE WE CAN DO THAT. NOW, THE MAYOR ALSO ASKED US TO LOOK AT, BECAUSE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS DRAINAGE ARE NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC OVERALL THAT WE STILL HAVE MORE WORK TO DO. AND SO, UH, WE'LL ALSO IDENTIFY THAT ADDITIONAL 10 MILLION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, UH, USING SOME ADDITIONAL CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION CAPACITY THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR DEBT PLAN. AND, UH, BEN GOZA IS, IS WORKING ON THAT. SO IT WAS A TWO YEAR PROGRAM, 35 MILLION EACH YEAR. WE HAD BOND SAVINGS LAST YEAR. MARIA, WERE USING SOME OF THAT FUND BALANCE, ENDING BALANCE THAT WE'RE PROJECTING THROUGH, UM, THE END OF THE YEAR. CORRECT. SO, UM, TO ADD TO WHAT THE MANAGER MENTIONED, UH, I HAD INDICATED THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO END THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR $13.2 MILLION AHEAD OF BUDGET AND THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO THE COUNCIL TO SET THAT ASIDE FOR STREET MAINTENANCE. SO THAT'S A PORTION HOW WE CAN ACHIEVE, UH, THE INITIAL GOAL OF 99 MILLION. ALSO LOOKING HERE AT THE FINANCIAL FORECAST, UH, FOR 2019, AS YOU CAN SEE UNDER POLICY ISSUES, TO ACHIEVE 110 MILLION, WE NEED $22.8 MILLION MORE THAT WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED TODAY. SO IF YOU WERE TO BREAK THAT, BREAK OUT THE 22.8 TO GET TO THE, TO, UH, TO THE LEVEL OF TODAY'S FUNDING OF 99 MILLION, WE NEED 12.8. AND THEN, UM, AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, HE WANTED A PLAN TO GET TO 110, SO WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL $11 MILLION. SO THAT IS A PIECE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING ON. SO THE BALANCE IS IN THE GENERAL FUND RIGHT NOW WITH THE BETTER ENDING BALANCE IN OUR PROJECTIONS FOR 2019. IS THAT ALSO, DOES THAT ALSO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE ADDITIONAL, WHAT, $5.7 MILLION TO VIA IS THAT BUILT IN THERE? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? 'CAUSE THAT IS ALREADY WASN'T IN OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR. SO IN OUR BUDGET LAST YEAR, WE HAD 4.3 MILLION POLICY DIRECTION WAS GET WAS TO GET TO 10. UM, YOU MAY RECALL THAT WE BUILT A TWO YEAR BUDGET. SO WHEN WE, UM, GOT THE POLICY DIRECTION, WE INCORPORATED THAT SO THAT IT'S IN THE BASE FOR 2019 TO GET US TO 10. THE PIECE THAT WE DID NOT INCLUDE, 'CAUSE WE HADN'T IDENTIFIED THE FUNDING, WAS FOR STREET MAINTENANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE GOT MIC BACK UP. COUNCIL . THANK YOU. UM, SO ONE OF THE POINTS OF CLARIFICATION, AND JUST TO REITERATE, WAS THE, UM, PCIS GETTING THAT AVERAGE BACK TO 70 WERE STILL ON TARGET FOR THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR? YES. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SLIDE NUMBER 38. UM, THE SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN AND WHAT IS THE DEFINITION WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRANSIT ACCESS AS A PRIORITIZATION, UM, CRITERIA? SURE. YEAH. BASICALLY, IF WE, UH, WITHIN A QUARTER MILE OF A BUS STOP, IF WE HAVE A GAP IN THE SIDEWALK, THEN WE WANT TO GIVE, MAKE THAT A PRIORITY. SO IT DOESN'T MEAN, UH, NECESS, IT'S JUST A, A BUS STOP. YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'SS IT FOR NOW. OKAY. COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ? UH, YEAH, THANK YOU MIKE. SO, UM, SORRY. SO AGAIN, UM, WITH THE SLIDE THAT YOU WERE JUST ON, UM, THAT SHOWED SOME POTENTIAL FOR FUNDING, UH, YOU SHOWED ROUGH, ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY AND, BUT, AND THE THIRD ONE WAS AFFORDABLE HOUSING. CORRECT. COULD YOU, UM, WHAT WAS THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT? SO YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT ONE [01:50:01] OF THE PROPOSITIONS IN THE BOND WAS TO SUPPORT THE HOUSING EFFORT. SO THAT'S 20 MILLION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. UH, THIS COULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE, THE NEEDS ARE GONNA BE GREAT. SO IF THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION TO TAKE THAT INCREMENT OF STREET MAINTENANCE FUNDING AND, UH, USE THAT TO HELP SUPPORT, UH, PROJECTS RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, UM, I HAVE A, AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST AND IT'S, IT'S, UM, I I, BUT I THINK IT'S RELEVANT, UH, AS WE'RE GOING INTO SOME PRIORITY DISCUSSIONS IS THAT IN NEARLY EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, THERE WERE DESIGNATED OPPORTUNITY ZONES. AND SO I WAS TALKING TO LORI ABOUT IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO GIVE HER THREE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES ARE, BECAUSE I SUSPECT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES DON'T KNOW, UM, UH, ABOUT THE DESIGNATION. AND COUNCILMAN PERRY, UH, ORGANIZED A GROUP OF US TO GO TO AUSTIN, UH, A FEW MONTHS BACK TO, UH, TO CHAMPION SOME OF THOSE OPPORTUNITY ZONES. THE MAYOR WAS INVOLVED IN SOME OF HIS STAFF. UM, BUT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH SOME OF OUR PRIORITIES, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DEDICATE FUNDING TO THOSE AREAS, I WONDER IF IT COULDN'T BE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO SOME OF THIS. UH, COULD WE MAKE THAT, UH, LORI, COULD LORI GIVE US A BRIEF PRESENTATION? WOULD THAT BE TWO OUTTA LINE? FRANCISCO? UM, I DON'T THINK PERTAINS TO THE TOPIC. SO LORI, THE, DO YOU HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO COMMENT? I THINK IT'S GREAT, BUT WE SHOULD ASK HER. YEAH. UM, WELL, I KNOW, WELL, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT BRIEFLY. I KNOW MIKE T WAS A STAFF MEMBER WHO HAD JOINED US IN AUSTIN, UM, TO TALK ABOUT THE DESIGNATION. UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE MOST OF IT, SO THERE ARE A FEW DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED AS PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, BUT MOST ARE. AND SO, UH, I KNOW THAT'S IT. HOPEFULLY, LORI, YOU CAN GIVE US ENOUGH INFORMATION THAT WE COULD PERHAPS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO DEDICATE FUNDING TO THOSE AREAS. OKAY. WELL, UM, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW THE OPPORTUNITIES, THAT ZONE PROGRAM WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE TAX CUTS AND JOB ACT IN 2017. AND THE ZONES ARE ESTABLISHED BY THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND THEY'RE ADMINISTERED BY THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT. AND SO IN MARCH OF 2018, GOVERNOR ABBOTT, HE DESIGNATED 628 CENSUS TRACKS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS AS OPPORTUNITY ZONES OF THAT 628 24 ARE IN BEXAR COUNTY. AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UM, THE PROGRAM PROVIDES INCENTIVES TO INVESTORS IF THEY INVEST IN AN OPPORTUNITY ZONE, AND THAT INCENTIVE IS IN THE FORM OF HOW THEY TREAT THEIR CAPITAL GAINS TAX. AND SO IT ALSO IS TREATED DIFFERENTLY IF THEY INVEST LONGER. SO IF THEY INVEST FOR MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS, THE THE TREATMENT OF THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX IS, UM, TREATED DIFFERENTLY. AND SO THE INCENTIVE INCREASE IS BASED ON THE LONGEVITY OF THE INVESTMENT. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IS THE 24 BEAR COUNTY OPPORTUNITY ZONES. THERE IS SOME OVERLAP IN THE 12 GEOGRAPHIC AREAS THAT WERE DESIGNATED, UM, BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT BONDS. SO IF YOU RECALL 20 MILLION IN THE $850 MILLION BOND PROGRAM WAS DESIGNATED FOR AREAS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND 20 GEOGRA. THERE WERE 12 GEOGRAPHIC ZONES THAT WERE DESIGNATED AS A RESULT OF THAT, UM, BOND PROPOSITION. AND SO THERE IS SOME OVERLAP, AND WE THINK THERE'S A GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LAYER SOME OF THOSE INVESTMENTS. AND SO AS WE TRY TO IDENTIFY PROJECTS OR WE'RE WORKING WITH INVESTORS WHO ARE LOOKING WHERE THEY CAN INVEST, WE CAN POINT TO SOME OF THESE AREAS THAT HAVE ADDITIONAL TYPES OF INCENTIVES THAT WE CAN LAYER ON TOP OF THEM. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF, UH, PERHAPS INVESTING SOME OF OUR PUBLIC INVESTMENT IN AREAS WHERE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, THEN WOULD ENCOURAGE THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO DO THINGS LIKE HOUSING OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR RETAIL DEVELOPMENT OR, UH, I MEAN, REALLY A VARIETY OF THINGS. BUT I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT IN ORDER FOR PRIVATE INVESTMENT TO FOLLOW, WE NEED PUBLIC INVESTMENT. AND ONCE WE DO THE PUBLIC INVESTMENT, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO INVEST IN THEIR HOMES. IT WILL ENCOURAGE, UH, DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA. SO THE PORT IS DESIGNATED, SO IS BROOKS, UH, AND, UM, AREAS OUTSIDE THE PORT. SO THAT WOULD OVERLAP IN DISTRICTS FIVE AND SIX. UM, SOME OVERLAP IN THE NEAR DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, SOME CENSUS TRACKS AND DISTRICT 10, UH, AND, UM, I WAS AT, AND OF COURSE, DOWNTOWN OR OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN IN WHICH IS PART OF DISTRICT ONE. SO MANY OF US ARE COVERED IN THOSE OPPORTUNITY ZONES. AND AS WE'RE DISCUSSING SOME OF THE DIRECTION FOR FUNDING AND FOR STREET MAINTENANCE AND SIDEWALKS AND ALL THAT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE, UH, WISE FOR US TO CONSIDER OPPORTUNITY ZONES AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. UM, MIKE, THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE, [01:55:01] I THINK A FOURTH BULLET POINT FOR OPPORTUNITY ZONES IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD CONSIDER ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MIKE FRISBEE? YES. COUNCILMAN, UH, THANK YOU MIKE. UH, REGARDING, UH, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND VISION ZERO, UH, THERE'S A PROPOSED MILLION FOR EACH, IS THAT CORRECT? MM-HMM. . UM, SO WE KNOW THAT MOST OF OUR, OUR REALLY TRAGIC PEDESTRIAN, UM, UH, COLLISIONS TAKE PLACE ON, UH, TXDOT ROADS THAT ARE, UH, PROBABLY ELIGIBLE FOR TECH STOP FUNDING AND FOR FEDERAL FUNDING AS WELL. SO IS, IS THIS BUDGET, UH, I GUESS IS IT POSSIBLE TO PROCURE FUNDING FROM THOSE OTHER SOURCES AND ARE WE DOING THAT ALREADY? YES, DEFINITELY. AND WE ARE DOING THAT, UH, RECENTLY TECH STOCK COMMITTED TO BUILDING A MID-BLOCK CROSSING IN DISTRICT 10 ON AUSTIN HIGHWAY, WHERE WE'VE HAD A HISTORY OF PEDESTRIAN ISSUES THERE, UH, CRASHES, UH, COLLIBRA ROAD, THE SECTION THAT'S TEXT OUT, THEY'VE INVESTED AGAIN IN, IN MIDBLOCK CROSSING POINTS. SO WE'RE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM TRYING TO GET AS MUCH DOLLARS FROM THE STATE AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS POSSIBLE AND, AND OTHER PARTNERS. BUT, UH, DEFINITELY THOSE MAJOR ARTERIALS, UH, ARE, ARE THE PREDOMINANT PROBLEM FOR PEDESTRIANS. YEAH. UM, RIGHT. SO IS THAT, ARE WE DOING IT PROJECT BY PROJECT OR IS THERE A COMMITMENT ON, ON THEIR PART TO, YOU KNOW, SET ASIDE AT LEAST A MILLION OR TO, TO MATCH US IN THAT? UH, IT'S BEEN PROJECT BY PROJECT. THEY, THEY'RE ON AN ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS AS WELL. AND SO THEY BUILD IN, WE'RE, WE MEET WITH THEM MONTHLY, WE TALK ABOUT PROJECTS, AND THEN THEY'RE BUILDING THAT INTO EACH OF THEIR FISCAL YEAR BUDGETS AS WELL. SO IT'S A, IT IS A REGULAR PROGRAM, BUT IT'S NOT A SET AMOUNT EVERY YEAR. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU TALKED ABOUT, SORRY, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING THROUGH OPTIONS OF HOW TO, UH, DISTRIBUTE, UH, FUNDING. UM, I APPRECIATE THAT, UH, THAT YOU HEARD US LAST TIME, UH, TALKING ABOUT THE AREAS, YOU KNOW, INSIDE FOUR 10 OR SOME OF THE OLDER AREAS. SO I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT. UM, BUT ARE YOU, I GUESS, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A WAY TO GEOGRAPHICALLY DEFINE WHERE WE PRIORITIZE THE FUNDING? LIKE WHY WOULDN'T WE JUST USE THE P C I SCORE FOR, OKAY, SO, UH, FOR THE STREETS, RIGHT? MM-HMM. , YEAH, WE WOULD, UH, WE WOULD USE THE P C I SCORES 3 1 1 INPUT AS WELL, AND WE'D WORK WITH YOUR OFFICE, BUT RATHER THAN TARGET THE ENTIRE CITY, BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S F STREETS EVERYWHERE, RIGHT? BUT THERE'S A CONCENTRATION OF OLDER AREAS. AND SO THE, THE OPTION HERE WOULD BE LET'S FOCUS THAT 11 MILLION IN EVERY DISTRICT IN THE OLDEST PART, BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY A, A WHERE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS. AND LET'S SEE IF WE CAN PUT A DENT IN THAT WITH THIS FUNDING. UM, OKAY. WELL, I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF LOOKING AT THE, AT THE OLDER AREAS. UH, THE, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS SOME OF THE OLDER AREAS HAVE REALLY, UM, HAVE SHIFTING GROUND. RIGHT? UM, SO WHEN YOU LAY OUT A STREET THERE, IT'S, UM, IT REQUIRES A LOT MORE MAINTENANCE THAN IN OTHER AREAS. SO IS, I GUESS, HOW ARE YOU TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT WHEN YOU SET ASIDE THIS, THIS BUDGET? YEAH, WE DO HAVE, WE HAVE THAT OVERLAY OF WHERE THAT, THAT CLAY SOILS ARE, THAT WHOLE SWATH THAT YOU'VE SEEN THE MAPS ON BEFORE, UH, THAT GOES THROUGH SAN ANTONIO. AND, UH, SO WE HAVE THAT, AND IT, IT DOES RELATE A LOT TO THE P C I SCORES AND THE LIFECYCLE COST OF A, OF A ROADWAY. SO WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT, BUT THAT, THAT SOIL CONDITION, UH, RELATES TO THE P P C I SCORE. UH, SO TYPICALLY THOSE STREETS ARE NOT GONNA LAST AS LONG, EVEN IF YOU CREATE A, A GREAT DESIGN AND BUILD THEM RIGHT. THAT, THAT SOIL UNDERNEATH DOES CREATE PROBLEMS OVER TIME. SO IT IS FACTORED IN. SO THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO DESIGN MODIFICATIONS OR, OR TECHNOLOGY MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN THOSE AREAS? YES, THERE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY IS. IN FACT, EVERY STREET THAT WE, WE BUILD HAS ITS OWN SPECIFIC DESIGN. SO BASED ON THE GEOTECHNICAL WORK THAT UNDERGROUND SOIL WORK, UH, WHAT'S UNDER THERE WILL DICTATE THE DESIGN, HOW MUCH BASE, HOW MUCH ASPHALT, WHETHER WE'RE GOING CONCRETE AND, AND ALL OF THOSE FACTORS ARE IN. SO WE DO DESIGN THEM DIFFERENTLY, UH, FOR THE SOIL CONDITIONS. UH, BUT WHEN, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS MUCH OF A ROAD BED SITTING ON A 20 FOOT THICK LAYER OF CLAY OVER 10, 15 YEARS, 20 YEARS, IT'S STILL GONNA, UH, WREAK HAVOC ON THAT STREET. IT'S STILL GONNA BE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE, BUT, UH, THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL REFLECTED WITHIN THE P C I SCORE OF THE EXISTING CONDITION AS IT IS TODAY AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO FIX IT. SURE. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL. YEAH. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST NEED [02:00:01] TO AMPLIFY WHAT COUNCILWOMAN SAN, UH, SAN SANDOVAL WAS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. UM, BECAUSE WHEN LOOKING AT THE OLDEST AREAS OF THE CITY AND LOOKING AT THE, WE'RE, YOU'RE ONLY GONNA BE LOOKING AT THE SIDEWALK GAPS, CORRECT? NOT NECESSARILY THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE FROM 1940 SOMETHING THAT ARE REALLY NARROW AND HAVE SHIFTED IN THE GROUND. SO, UM, MY QUESTION, WELL, MY REQUEST WOULD BE TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. THESE OPTIONS THAT YOU GAVE FOR THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE A MILLION, UM, 11 MILLION. MY OPTIONS, UH, MY THOUGHTS WOULD BE TO, TO GIVE US THE DATA OF WHAT THE ADDRESS OLDEST AREAS OF EACH DISTRICT EQUITY, AND THEN ALSO GOING OFF OF WHAT COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ MENTIONED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES, HAVING THOSE, THE DATA OF THOSE TWO OPTIONS SO WE CAN SEE WHICH WOULD WORK BEST. BECAUSE I DO REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST YEAR OF CERTAIN AREAS IN DISTRICTS THAT NEED TO HAVE THAT, UM, ADDITIONAL WORK IN THEIR, THEIR AREAS. I ALSO WANTED TO SEE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COORDINATED EFFORTS OF WHAT STREET IMPROVEMENTS OR STREET REHABILITATION, UH, THAT WE'RE DOING, HOW MANY OF THE SIDEWALKS ARE WE FILLING IN THOSE GAPS? OR ARE WE HAVING THE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE SIDEWALKS TOO IN OUR, IN OUR DISTRICTS, IN OUR CORRESPONDING DISTRICTS, UM, I WILL ALWAYS, UH, I WILL ALWAYS ADVOCATE FOR MORE MONEY IN THE SIDEWALKS 'CAUSE WITH THE, WITH THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF SIDEWALK GAPS IN THE CITY. AND MY RESIDENTS ALWAYS LET ME KNOW ABOUT THIS. UM, THAT'S WHY THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND ALSO SEE THE COORDINATED EFFORTS THAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE, WHERE'S THE CORRELATION BETWEEN THE STREET REHAB THAT WE'RE DOING AND THE, UM, AND THE SIDEWALKS THAT WE'RE FILLING TOO. SO IF THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT. OKAY. OKAY. I KNOW NEXT WEEK WE HAVE A B SESSION ITEM RELATED TO SIDEWALKS, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO TOUCH IN, IN A LITTLE MORE DEPTH THERE. FANTASTIC. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. COUNCIL. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. MAYBE ERIC MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP, BUT MIKE WILL ASK YOU, HOW MUCH DO CRASHES, ACCIDENTS, DEATHS, UH, DUE TO SPEEDING COST THIS CITY? HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? T C I, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST PUBLIC SAFETY IN SERVING ALL OF THESE THAT TAKE PLACE IN OUR CITY, WHICH ARE THOUSANDS EVERY YEAR? MM-HMM. , UH, DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATES ON THAT? I DO NOT HAVE 'EM. WE COULD, WE COULD GENERATE THAT. SO THE, THE IMPACT TO THE CITY FOR CRASHES AND SERVICING CRASHES, RIGHT? BECAUSE, I MEAN, I KNOW VISION ZERO, WE WANNA ELIMINATE THE DEATHS, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER PROBLEMS. AND, AND SPEEDING IS A MAJOR PROBLEM. AND A LOT OF THE ACCIDENTS AND CRASHES, UH, ARE CONSISTENT WITH PEOPLE SPEEDING ON, ON CITY STREETS ALL OVER, WHETHER IT'S TDO ROADS OR, OR ON MAJOR CITY STREETS. AND I KNOW WE, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF PROGRAMS TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, BUT I THINK THAT, UH, WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS EDUCATE DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN, YOU KNOW, JUST PLAN AHEAD AND SLOW DOWN. AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN'T IMPLEMENT IN OUR EDUCATIONAL PROCESS EITHER THROUGH T C I OR PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, BECAUSE IF WE GET PEOPLE TO SLOW DOWN, WE'RE GONNA ELIMINATE MANY OF THOSE ACCIDENTS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE IN A HURRY SLAMMING INTO THE BACK OF A CAR OR WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING. UH, AND THAT COULD SAVE US MONEY. AND IF WE COULD SHOW THE TAXPAYERS THAT THEY COULD SAVE MONEY IF THEY'D SLOW DOWN MM-HMM. , I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD EDUCATIONAL PROJECT FOR US TO WORK ON. BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE MAYBE SOME STATISTICS, WHATEVER WE CAN DO IN TRAFFIC CALMING, I THINK IS IMPORTANT EVERYWHERE IN THE CITY. YEAH. IN FACT, UH, WE TALK ABOUT THE FIVE E OF, OF VISION ZERO EFFORT, AND ONE OF THOSE IS THE EDUCATION PIECE. SO WE'RE OUT THERE IN THE SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY EVENTS, SO FORTH, TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT OF SPEEDING AND ALL THAT. SO YEAH, I THINK SOME PSAS ARE THINGS WE COULD DEVELOP ON, ON PLANNING AHEAD AND SLOWING DOWN WOULD MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF WE HAD ANY FIGURES ON THAT. MAYBE WE CAN GENERATE SOME. OKAY. THANK YOU. SURE. UM, THANKS MIKE FOR THE PRESENTATION. I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS ABOUT VISION ZERO AND AS MUCH AS WE CAN INTEGRATE TRAFFIC CALMING PRIORITIES AND THE VISION ZERO PRIORITIES WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, BUT ALSO THE REGULAR STREET, UM, MAINTENANCE CYCLE, I THINK THE BETTER. I MEAN, I, I THINK WE NEED TO LEVERAGE THOSE PRIORITIES AS BEST WE CAN. UM, ON THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS, YOU SAID THAT THE SLIDE SHOWED WAS 79% COMPLETE FROM THE ALLOCATION LAST YEAR. ONE OF THE GOALS OF THAT WAS TO BUMP UP WHAT WAS ABOUT A 19 YEAR CYCLE TO A THREE TO FIVE YEAR CYCLE. IS THAT AN ONGOING COMMITMENT NOW? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN EXPECT MOVING FORWARD? IS THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS WE'RE GONNA CYCLE THROUGH THE PAVEMENT MARKING, UH, SCHEDULE? YES. I MEAN, [02:05:01] IF THAT, IF THAT'S THE CONTINUED FUNDING ALLOCATION, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THEN YES. SO THE THREE YEARS IS THE, IS THOSE ARTERIAL STREETS, THE FIVE YEARS IS ALL THE OTHER STREETS. AND UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A REAL GOOD CYCLE. WE'RE SEEING A BIG DIFFERENCE OUT THERE, UH, WITH THE VISIBILITY OF THE STRIPES. OKAY. AND, AND SO IS THAT BAKED INTO THE FIVE-YEAR FORECAST? YES, MARIA. OKAY. UH, YES. THAT IS INCLUDED IN OUR FIVE-YEAR FINANCIAL FORECAST. OKAY. GREAT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL, MR. COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU. UM, MIKE, WE DID TALK ABOUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT EXISTING SIDEWALKS. AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE, WE DON'T HAVE ONE. SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT WE NEED IS THE CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF EXISTING SIDEWALKS. SO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT. 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON, UH, PROVIDING DATA FOR, FOR EXISTING SIDEWALKS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE. WE DO HAVE IT FOR, THAT'S FOR ROADS, WHICH IS AT THE P C I INDEX, BUT IT DOESN'T TRANSLATE OVER TO SIDEWALKS. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO, UH, LIKE MOST CITIES THAT, THAT WE'RE AWARE OF, UM, PEOPLE DON'T, THEY DON'T TYPICALLY HAVE THE, THE CONDITION INVENTORY OF ALL EXISTING SIDEWALKS. WE PLAN TO GET THERE. UH, WE HAVE ABOUT 300 MILES OF THE 5,000 MILES THAT WE, WE HAVE DOCUMENTED THE CONDITION. AND THAT'S NOT JUST SO MUCH, YOU KNOW, IS IT, DOES IT HAVE CRACKS, BUT IT'S ALSO CROSS SLOPES FOR A D A ACCESSIBILITY, YOU KNOW, FOR WHEELCHAIRS. SO THEY DON'T TIP ANY DISPLACEMENT WITH SECTIONS THAT ARE RISING UP. SO LOOKING AT THAT IN DETAIL. SO WE, IT, IT'S GONNA TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO CLOSE THE GAP, BUT WE HAVE AN APPROACH THAT, THAT, UH, INCLUDES A FIELD LOOK OUT THERE THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO GET ALL OF THAT DATA SO THAT WE, THAT WE'LL HAVE IT. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT QUITE A BIT AND WANNA CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, MAKE SURE THAT WE GET WHATEVER EQUIPMENT WE NEED NOW AND SORT OF START PLANNING FOR THAT IN OUR BUDGET. 'CAUSE WE DO NEED A CONDITION ASSESSMENT IN ORDER TO START CREATING PLAN FOR, FOR SOLVING THIS ISSUE. YEP. THANK YOU THERE. NO QUESTIONS, MIKE. JUST, UH, ONE QUICK QUESTION, MIKE, UH, YOU, YOU HAD A QUOTE, SOMETHING ABOUT 33%, UH, PEDESTRIAN FAT FATALITIES ON 1% OF ARTERIALS. IS THAT, AM I READING THAT CORRECTLY? RIGHT. SO OUR, WE PUT TOGETHER A REPORT AND ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO THAT LOOKED AT THOSE SEVERE, UH, INJURY AND FATALITIES. SO IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE THE SEVERE INJURIES AND THE FATALITIES, THEN YES, UH, 33% OF 'EM OCCUR ON 1% OF OUR ROADWAYS. SO THEN WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUDGETING AND PRIORITIES, UM, YOU WOULD SUGGEST THAT, UH, THAT 30, THAT 1% BE AN AREA THAT WE FOCUS ON. IS THAT WITHIN OUR NETWORK OR WITHIN TEXT DOTS AS WELL? THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S BOTH. OKAY. IT'S, IT'S THE METRO AREA. SO, UH, THAT'S WHY WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THEM AND THEY'RE REALLY, UH, HELPING OUT, UH, WITH CERTAIN, CERTAIN AREAS. UH, SO YEAH, WE DO THAT. THE DATA WAS, WAS SO VALUABLE FOR US TO SEE THAT SO THAT NOW WE CAN FOCUS IN ON THOSE ARTERIALS, IT'S UNREALISTIC TO EXPECT PEDESTRIANS TO WALK TOO FAR TO GET TO A SIGNALED CROSSING. UH, THEY NEED TO GET, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AT ONE SIDE OF THE STREET, THEIR DESTINATIONS ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY WANT TO GET ACROSS. AND SO WE, WE, WE HAVE WAYS OF DOING THAT THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH, WITH THESE PEDESTRIAN REFUGE AREAS, PROPER SIGNAGE AND, AND BEACONS AND SO FORTH TO HELP WITH THAT. DOES THE, UH, DOES THE BUDGET FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WHEREVER POSSIBLE, UM, WITH TRAFFIC CALMING SIDEWALKS STREETS OR TRYING TO PREVENT PEOPLE FROM, FROM DEATH OR FATALITIES OR INJURIES ON OUR STREETS, THAT WE DO IT WITH A, WITH A, WITH A SCALPEL RATHER THAN AN AX. AND THAT KIND OF PRECISION IS WHAT I WOULD HOPE TO HAVE ON THINGS LIKE WHERE WE SEE SPEEDERS CAN, CAN VIA TELL US WHERE THERE'S INCONGRUENCY BETWEEN WHERE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO GET AND WHERE THE NEAREST, UH, CROSSWALK IS. UM, DO YOU HAVE OTHER, WHERE, WHERE'S THE MONEY FOR A Z CROSSING, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, COMING FROM, IS IT COMING FROM THIS 1 MILLION OR FROM A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY? IT'S COMING. UH, SO FOR THE, FROM THE VISION $0, UH, TYPICALLY FOR THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS VERSUS THE TRAFFIC CALMING, WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER MECHANISMS. IT, IT, IT'S GONNA BENEFIT PEDESTRIANS AS WELL. BUT IT'S REALLY TARGETING MORE OF THE, THE CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC SPEEDERS, UM, WITH DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THERE. SO LEMME JUST AGAIN FOR A CLARIFYING QUESTION. SURE. THE Z IF WE WERE PUTTING IN A Z CROSSING, WHERE WOULD WE GET THAT MONEY TO DO THE Z CROSSING THROUGH? THE FIRST SOURCE WOULD BE THE TRAFFIC CALMING PROGRAM. YEAH. IS THAT, WHERE IS THAT I M P DOLLARS OR THOSE, UM, 1 MILLION ALLOCATIONS? YEAH. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BUILT WITHIN THE I M P PROGRAM, THAT 1 MILLION. UM, AND IT, UH, NOW LET'S SAY WE HAVE A BOND PROGRAM PROJECT THAT WE WILL BUILD Z CROSSINGS, WHATEVER PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES WITHIN [02:10:01] THE PROJECT, IT'S WELL AS WELL WITH THE BOND DOLLARS. BUT, UH, IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A ONE POINT OUT THERE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, THAT WOULD COME FROM THE ANNUAL BUDGET. YEAH. THANK YOU. MIKE. JUST WANTED TO, UM, CLARIFY, COUNCILMAN, THE $1 MILLION THAT WE BUDGETED FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS, UH, COMING OUT OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH IS CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. SO THAT IS OVER AND ABOVE THE 99 MILLION THAT WE HAD FOR STREET MAINTENANCE. MARIA, IF I COULD GO AHEAD AND KEEP YOU UP HERE. THANK YOU, MIKE. YEP. UH, IF YOU COULD TALK TO US ABOUT ALTERNATIVE REVENUE SOURCES. COUNCILMAN SAGIA, I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION. YES. THANK YOU, MARIA. I, I THINK I GLOSS OVER THIS EVERY YEAR, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT JUST ME, BUT, UH, WE, WE WE'RE ALWAYS VERY, SO I CAN DRAW BACK AND TELL YOU EXACTLY WHERE OUR C P S REVENUE COMES FROM AND OUR PROPERTY TAX COMES FROM. THOSE ARE ALL BIG NUMBERS AS WELL AS OUR SALES TAX RECEIPTS. WE CAN PIN THOSE DOWN. BUT I THINK I'VE ALWAYS JUST GLOSSED OVER THE, THE OTHER RESOURCES, WHICH IS 216 MILLION, WHICH IS NOT A SMALL PART OF THE REVENUES THAT COME INTO THE CITY FOR US TO FUNCTION. WHAT ARE THE SLICES THAT ARE MOST PROMINENT WHEN YOU START TO DISSECT 216 MILLION, 216 MILLION IN, IN OTHER RESOURCES THAT ARE COMING TO THE CITY? UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE WE OVERLOOK IT EVERY SINGLE YEAR. I DO, AT LEAST. UH, SURE, NO PROBLEM. SO ONE OF THE LARGEST COMPONENTS IS OUR, UH, TELECOMMUNICATION TAXES AND THE USE OF A RIGHT OF WAY BY, UH, CABLE COMPANIES. SO THAT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $30.5 MILLION ANNUALLY. THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UH, WHAT WE, UM, GET FROM THE STATE AND BINGO TAXES. THAT IS THAT CATEGORY OF CATEGORY OF FUNDING. UM, WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER LARGE, UH, CATEGORY IS OUR AMBULANCE, UH, FEES, OUR TRANSPORT FEES. THAT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT $26 MILLION ANNUALLY. WE ALSO HAVE OUR PAYMENT FROM SAS, UH, THAT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 16 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ANNUALLY. UM, AND THEN FROM THERE, THERE'S, UH, OTHER CATEGORIES. FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE PAYMENT THAT WE GET FROM THE BEXAR COUNTY FOR THE USE OF OUR LIBRARY SERVICES AND OUR DETENTION, UH, COST. UH, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, OTHER FEES LIKE, UH, PAYMENTS FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS, OUR LICENSES IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, UH, THE RIVER BAR REVENUES, UM, AND SO ON. SO THERE'S, UM, A LIST OF ALL THESE REVENUES. WE INCLUDE MORE DETAIL IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT AS WELL AS OUR QUARTERLY REPORTS TO THE COUNCIL. UH, BUT THAT IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. AND ALSO ANOTHER PORTION IS, UM, UM, OUR BEGINNING BALANCE, UM, AS WELL. THANK YOU, MARIA. THAT'S REALLY HELPFUL. CAN YOU, CAN YOU MAYBE FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT, UM, IS THERE VOLATILITY TO THE, THE, THE TWO HIGHEST, WHICH ARE THE AMBULANCE AND THE TELECOMMUNICATIONS REVENUE THAT WE GET FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS? DO YOU SEE UPS AND DOWNS IN THOSE OR DO THEY REMAIN PRETTY STATIC IN THE TELECOMMUNICATION AREA? WE HAVE SEEN DECREASES AS MORE COMPANIES ARE DOING MORE, UM, INTERNET CONNECTIONS RATHER THAN CONNECTIONS ON THE GROUND. SO WE HAVE SEEN THOSE, UH, UH, FEES, UH, DECREASING, UH, ON THE AMBULANCE FEES IS, UM, CYCLICAL HAS, FOR THE MOST PART HAS REMAINED, UH, THE SAME. UH, WE GET WHAT WE CALL A SUPPLEMENTAL PAYMENT FROM THE STATE ON E M SS, UH, TRANSPORT FEES FOR THOSE USERS THAT ARE NOT INSURED. UH, THE, UH, WE GET A PAYMENT OF ROUGHLY ABOUT SEVEN TO $9 MILLION ANNUALLY. AND BASED ON THE ALLOCATION THAT THE STATE MAY HAVE, THAT PAYMENT MAY FLUCTUATE WITHIN A MILLION OR TWO ANNUALLY. THANK YOU, MARIA. I THINK IT'S JUST IMPORTANT FOR US TO CLARIFY WHERE SOME OF OUR RESOURCES ARE COMING FROM AND, AND THAT'S ONE AREA WHERE I HADN'T DONE SO AS, AS WELL AS IN PREVIOUS YEARS. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MARIA? COUNCILMAN? THANK YOU, MARIA. UM, COULD YOU TELL ME, UH, HOW MUCH, UH, OF THE BUDGET FOR 2019 COMES FROM PROJECTED NEW DEBT FINANCING? SO THE 2019 GENERAL FUND BUDGET COUNCILMAN? IS THAT, OR THE ENTIRE BUDGET? I GUESS SOME OF IT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE FOR THE FINANCIAL FORECAST, WE FOCUS ON THE GENERAL FUND AND OTHER OPERATING RESTRICTED FUNDS. SO WE HAVEN'T DONE, UH, AN UPDATE TO THE DEBT PLAN YET. SO WE DON'T HAVE THE, THAT TOTAL NUMBER TO COMPARE TO THE 2.7 BILLION AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR. WE ARE GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT DURING THE SUMMER. WELL, I'M, I GUESS I'M KIND OF TYING THAT INTO THE DISCUSSION WE HAD A LITTLE WHILE AGO ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF HAVING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. AND WITHIN THE CLASSIFICATIONS IT SAYS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THAT IS DEDICATED TOWARDS DEBT FUNDING. UH, AND SO I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT [02:15:01] WORKS WITH OUR BUDGET. UH, YOU KNOW, IF, AND IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THAT A SECOND. I'M JUST TRYING TO, TO PREDICT, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GOING TO DEBT FUND MOST OF THE REHABILITATION OF CITY HALL. HOW MUCH OF THAT IS PROJECTED FOR NEXT YEAR, UH, OR THE YEAR AFTER? AND I KNOW THERE'S OTHER ITEMS WE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE ADDITIONAL $23 MILLION FOR THE STREETS. AND ONE OF THE POSSIBILITIES IS DEBT FUNDING. SO I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT IS PROJECTED, WHAT IS THE CAPACITY THAT WE MAY HAVE, AND IF WE DO A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT MIGHT REDUCE SOME OF THE MONEY FOR DEBT FUNDING, WHAT'S AVAILABLE FOR DEBT FUNDING? WILL WE BE ABLE TO DO THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO? AND I, I WOULD'VE ASSUMED A LOT OF THAT WOULD'VE BEEN FORECAST IF WE KNOW ABOUT THAT. I DIDN'T REALIZE WE'RE ONLY FOCUSING ON, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN PORTION OF THE BUDGET TODAY. SO MAYBE HE CAN GIVE US A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. SURE. UH, COUNCILMAN MARIA SAID WE DO DO A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO OUR PROPERTY TAX DEBT PLAN EVERY YEAR. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT NOW, BUT BASED ON JUST LOOKING AT, UM, WHAT WE HAD IN PLACE LAST YEAR, AND IT'S A LONG-TERM FORECAST AND LOOKING AT SOME OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE F Y 19 BUDGET, WE'VE DONE SOME UPDATES TO THAT. UM, YOU SAW RECENTLY AN ITEM GO TO COUNSEL WHERE WE ASKED YOU FOR APPROVAL TO, UH, PUBLISH A NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION. UM, THAT'S JUST A NOTICE REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK, UM, IN JUNE AND ASK FOR YOUR APPROVAL TO ISSUE THAT. AND IF YOU GIMME JUST A SECOND, I WILL GET YOU THE EXACT NUMBER. UM, SO WHAT WENT TO COUNCIL WAS, UH, PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED CFOS. AND THIS IS A CEILING. THE NUMBERS WILL COME DOWN. 'CAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT TIMING OF PROJECTS TOO. SO WE DON'T SPEND ALL THE MONEY AT ONE TIME. SO WE'RE TIMING OUR ISSUANCES ABOUT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN PROPERTY TAX SUPPORTED CFOS. ANOTHER, UH, UP TO $62 MILLION FOR WHAT WE CALL SELF-SUPPORTING CFOS. THEY'RE BACKED BY PROPERTY TAXES, BUT WE'RE USING SOME OTHER REVENUES TO PAY FOR THEM. UH, FOR EXAMPLE, OUR SERVICE CENTERS, WE'RE DOING SOME NEW SERVICE CENTERS. OUR STORM WATER FEES AND OUR SOLID WASTE FEES WILL ACTUALLY SUPPORT THE DEBT FOR THOSE BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT OPERATE OUT OF THOSE FACILITIES. BUT IN THIS CASE, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY ISSUE THE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION WITH PROPERTY TAX SUPPORT SO WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF OUR AAA BOND RATING, GET THE LOWEST COST OF BORROWING WE CAN, WHICH HELPS US KEEP THOSE FEES LOWER AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHAT'S PLANNED FOR, UM, FOR THIS COMING SUMMER'S ISSUANCE. IN TERMS OF THE FUTURE, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS UPDATED IN TERMS OF THAT. I WILL TELL YOU WHEN WE ADD IN THE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENT TO GET US TO $110 MILLION, UH, OF ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE, WHEN I LOOK AT SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE, WE PROBABLY HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF AROUND $10 MILLION OF CAPACITY NEXT YEAR. UM, BUT THAT'S BEYOND THAT. THAT'S ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. SO ARE, ARE YOU SAYING IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THE PROPOSALS THAT YOU'VE JUST BEEN DISCUSSING, HAVEN'T THE FINAL YET AS WE GO THROUGH THOSE, YOU CAN HIT YOUR BUTTON PLEASE. WE HAVE ABOUT 10 MILLION LEFT IN BOND CAPACITY, IF I'M SORRY. SO YOU'D SAY IF WE GO THROUGH WITH THE PROPOSALS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE'D HAVE AN ADDITIONAL $10 MILLION IN DEBT CAPACITY AFTER WE DO THAT. RIGHT NOW, BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE SIZED PRELIMINARILY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO TO ISSUE CFOS TO HIT $110 MILLION IN ANNUAL STREET MAINTENANCE, UM, MEET OUR OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT WERE ALREADY APPROVED. UM, THERE LOOKS LIKE THERE COULD BE ABOUT $10 MILLION IN 2019 OF ADDITIONAL CAPACITY. THAT INCLUDES CITY HALL WORK. YES, SIR. THAT'S BUILT IN THERE AS WELL. SO ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE ADOPTED BUDGET. RIGHT. YOU KNOW, YOU ADOPT A SIX YEAR CAPITAL PLAN, AND THEN THERE ARE PROJECTS LIKE CITY HALL THAT CAME UP, UM, AND WAS APPROVED RIGHT A MONTH OR TWO MONTHS AGO. THOSE THINGS WERE BUILT IN AS WELL. SO IF WE TALK ABOUT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THAT REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF TAXES AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT, UH, MORE DEBT SERVICE. THAT IS, WOULD THAT REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF DEBT SERVICE WE WOULD HAVE AVAILABLE, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL WORK WE DECIDE WE NEED TO DO? YES. SO WOULD REDUCE IT, UH, BY THE ESTIMATED 2.293. IF WE DID JUST FIVE K, IF YOU JUST DID THE $5,000 EXEMPTION, THE TWO POINT, UM, $3 MILLION THAT'S LISTED UP, THERE'S A LOST REVENUE. THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT WE THEN CAN'T CONVERT OR, UM, UH, TRANSFER OR, OR, OR BOND AGAINST. MM-HMM. . SO THAT PROBABLY IS BASED ON TODAY'S INTEREST RATES. I WOULD PROBABLY SAY MAYBE 25 TO 30 MILLION. IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE 10 MILLION NOW. AND IF WE REDUCED IT, WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT 10 MILLION BASED ON THE WAY THE PLAN IS STRUCTURED TODAY. YES. OR MAYBE THE ABILITY TO DO THE STREET MONEY. THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU DID THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WE WOULD NEED TO REWORK [02:20:01] THE HOME. WE WOULD HAVE TO REWORK THE PROPERTY TAX DEBT PLAN TO BUILD THAT ASSUMPTION IN AND THEN SEE HOW WE COULD, UM, EITHER ADJUST OR RESTRUCTURE THINGS. WE WOULD TRY TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT, BUT THERE WOULD BE AN IMPACT. I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S LOST BOND CAPACITY THERE WHEN YOU HAVE LESS REVENUE. OKAY. UH, I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION FROM MARIA, IF SHE COULD COME BACK. THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, AND MARIA, IT HAS TO DO WITH, UM, HOW DO WE ESTIMATE THE COST OF LIVING ALLOWANCE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING FOR EMPLOYEES? 'CAUSE I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS 1%. UH, YES. COUNCILMAN. SO WE, WHAT IS THAT BASED ON? WE LOOK AT, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS. WE LOOK AT THE COST OF INFLATION. SO THE ESTIMATED INFLATION FOR 2019 IS ESTIMATED AT 2.5% BY MOODY'S AS THE SOURCE THAT WE USE. BUT WE ALSO LOOK AT THE, THE TOTAL PACKET OF, UH, PERFORMANCE, I'M SORRY, THE TOTAL PACKET OF COMPENSATION FOR OUR CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE STEP PAY PLAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LIVING WAGE, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE. SO BASED ON THOSE, UH, FACTORS, UH, IN, IN THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, WE MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHAT WE CAN'T, UH, ALLOCATE FOR FUNDING FOR. UM, COLA I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES, UH, USE, I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES USE THE, UH, BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS MM-HMM. , UH, TO TIE INTO THAT KIND OF A FEDERAL VIEW OF THAT. BUT WE DON'T DO THAT. UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT. WE HAVE FOCUSED PRIMARILY ON INFLATION AS ONE OF THOSE PREDICTORS OF WHAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE, UH, LEVEL OF, UM, COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, BUT AGAIN, TIED TO THE ENTIRE PACKET OF, UM, COMPENSATION FOR OUR EMPLOYEES. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT SOME OF THE FACTORS WE'VE LOOKED AT WERE AS HIGH AS 2.5% INFLATION? CORRECT? I KNOW, UH, BUREAU LABOR STATISTICS ABOUT ONE AND A HALF MM-HMM. , BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST GIVING A ONE. YES. THAT IS OUR, OUR WHAT WE HAVEN'T BUILT IN THE FORECAST AT THIS POINT. OKAY. ONE, ONE, IF I COULD. ONE PLUS THE TWO TO 4% INCREASE. SO A TOTAL OF THREE TO 5%, BUT THOSE ARE BUILT IN FOR, YOU KNOW, SERVICE TO THE CITY OVER THE YEARS. YEAH. RIGHT. BUT SO THAT, YES, IT IS THREE TO 5% THOUGH, IN TOTAL MM-HMM. . I UNDERSTAND. OKAY. THANK YOU. THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR MAYOR. UH, THANK YOU. I WANNA STAY ON THIS QUESTION HERE WITH THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT, BECAUSE IN SLIDE 50 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT HOUSING COST OUTPACING INCOMES, UM, I THINK ONE THING THAT WE ALL NEED TO, TO LOOK AT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POLICY DIRECTION IS HOW THE CITY DOES NEED TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING AND AFFORDABILITY AND, UM, LOOKING AT, SO LOOKING AT AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE HAVE THE, UM, THE INCOMES BEEN ON PAR WITH THE COST OF THE HOUSES, UM, AND ALSO THE APPRAISALS IN THE AREA. SO IF WE CAN ALSO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON HOW OUR, UM, THE CITY HAS BEEN PAYING THE EMPLOYEES AND HOW THAT MEASURES UP TO THE MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOMES, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION. AND THEN, UM, AS WE LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND ASSUMPTIONS, AND I KNOW WE ALL, Y'ALL ARE GONNA BE DOING A LOT OF WORK THIS, UH, AUGUST, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGETS. AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE, THAT INFORMATION IS, UH, HOW DO YOU FACTOR IN VACANCIES IN DEPARTMENTS MM-HMM. AND VACANCIES THAT HAVE STAY VACANT THE ENTIRE YEAR MM-HMM. , UM, HOW IS THAT A COST SAVINGS FOR EACH DEPARTMENT TOO? BUT ARE WE ALSO ABLE TO, UM, DO THE, THE JOB AND THE SERVICE PERFORMANCES THAT WE'RE DOING? SO THOSE ARE SOME OF MY QUESTIONS AND, AND I CAN ADDRESS COUNCILWOMAN THAT THE QUESTION YOU HAVE ON VACANCIES. YEAH. SO AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR, UM, OUR DEPARTMENTS, WE DO AN ANALYSIS OF ATTRITION THAT THEY'VE HAD OVER THE, THE PAST YEARS. AND WE BUILT IN THAT FACTOR INTO THE BUDGET. SO FOR LARGE DEPARTMENTS, LIKE, LET'S TAKE A PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT OR A T C I DEPARTMENT, IF THEIR ATTRITION RATE IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN TWO TO 5%, THEN WE, UH, COME UP WITH AN ESTIMATE BASED ON HISTORICAL TRENDS OR WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR. SO THAT WAY WE DON'T OVER BUDGET FOR NO ATTRITION THAT WE KNOW IS GONNA HAPPEN EVERY YEAR. OTHER SMALL DEPARTMENTS LIKE, UH, UM, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, FOR EXAMPLE, THEIR ATTRITION MAY BE ONE EMPLOYEE OR HALF OF AN EMPLOYEE OVER THE YEARS. SO WE DON'T, UM, WE DON'T ADJUST THE BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT DOLLARS TO PERFORM THE WORK. SO WE DO IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BASED ON THE SIZE AND THE HISTORY OF THE DEPARTMENT. AND SO I, AND, AND IF, IF I COULD ADD YOUR QUESTION ABOUT A, A VACANCY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, WE HAVE A [02:25:01] GENERAL RULE. IF THERE'S A VACANCY FOR THE WHOLE YEAR, THERE'S A QUESTION AS TO THE NEED FOR THAT POSITION. IF THE DEPARTMENT HAS NOT BEEN AGGRESSIVE IN FILLING, AND WE REEVALUATE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT POSITION IS NEEDED, IT'S NOT AUTOMATICALLY REFUNDED FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. OKAY. I THINK, UM, THAT WAS JUST ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. AND THEN ALSO, HOW DOES THAT LOOK LIKE WITH DIFFERENT, UH, DEPARTMENTS LIKE THOSE THAT HAVE DIFFERENT FUNDS, LIKE THE CONVENTION CENTER MM-HMM. , AND ALSO, UM, THE ENTER RESTRICTED FUNDS, ET CETERA. SO I'M JUST GETTING CLARIFICATION ON THAT TOO. YEAH. AND, AND AS THE SAME RULE, WE, WE DO THE SAME ANALYSIS. OKAY. THANK YOU, . THANK YOU. JUST TO FOLLOW UP, MARIA, I WANT TO, UH, GET A LITTLE CONTEXT ON, ON THE COST OF LIVING. AND THE STUDY WE ASKED FOR DURING THE MID-YEAR WAS, WHERE ARE WE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES? UM, AND, UH, I'LL JUST BE VERY BLUNT IN SAYING THAT I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE CITY EMPLOYEES DESERVE HIGHER THAN A 1%, UH, COST OF LIVING AND ADJUSTMENT FOR THIS YEAR. UM, IN MY MIND, I'M THINKING ABOUT WHETHER IT'S, UH, 2% OR PERHAPS LOWER. CAN YOU TELL ME, UH, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE 12,000 EMPLOYEES, CIVILIANS, I THINK THAT'S THE CORRECT NUMBER. WE HAD 12,000. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THEM HAVE GRADUATED OUT OF THE PAY STEP PAY PLAN? UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS A GETABLE OR KNOWABLE INFORMATION? I WILL ASK FOR LORI STEWART TO HELP ME WITH THAT. I OKAY. WANNA SAY MAYBE ABOUT A THOUSAND LORI THAT ARE BEYOND STEP 10 OR STEP SEVEN IN THE PAY PLAN? WELL, WE CAN PERHAPS HAVE THE DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT POLICY, BUT THAT'S MAYBE JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION THAT I'LL, UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE ANSWERED WHEN WE HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ON THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. UM, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. THANK YOU. AND I JUST, I THINK THIS IS KIND OF A, A GOOD SEGUE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT COUNCIL AID PAY. AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT LAST YEAR AND WE HAVE SOME INFORMATION. IN FACT, WE CAN PASS IT OUT. SO I'M GONNA SURE. ASK IF WE'RE NOT ASKING A QUESTION AND WE CAN PICK THAT UP. I'M, I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION. OKAY. GREAT. LAST QUESTION. THE, THE, THE QUESTION IS, IS LYDIA, UM, THE, THE, THE POINT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE, AND THE QUESTION IS HOW WE STRUCTURE COUNCIL A PAY AND THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THAT AND CITY, UH, STAFF PAY? I MEAN, THERE'S SOME DIFFERENCES AND WE, WE JUST HEARD, FOR EXAMPLE, PERFORMANCE PAY AND STEP PLAN. NONE OF THOSE THINGS APPLY TO COUNCIL AIDS. SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU TALK TO US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DIFFERENCES AND HOW WE CAN HAVE A BETTER APPROACH TO, UH, MORE ROBUST COUNCIL AIDS PACKAGES? YES, COUNCILMAN. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO, UM, FOR COUNCIL A PAY IS THE EQUIVALENT OF, UM, THE COASTAL LIVING ADJUSTMENT AND THE PERFORMANCE SPACE. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, AND WHAT WE HAVE IN THE FORECAST RIGHT NOW IS A 1%, UM, COASTAL LIVING ADJUSTMENT, AND THE EQUIVALENT OF 3% OF WAGES THAT IS ALLOCATED FOR PERFORMANCE. SO THAT 4%, WE INCREASE THE BUDGET IN THE COUNCIL, UM, OFFICES AS WELL BY THE SAME PERCENTAGE. AND THAT'LL BE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE COUNCIL, HOW THEY DISTRIBUTE THOSE DOLLARS TO THEIR, UM, TO THEIR STAFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. MANIA. I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, THE, THE BIG QUESTION IS, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WANNA SHOW THAT, THAT EVERY COUNCIL OFFICE IS DOING A LOT OF WORK SIMILAR TO CITY STAFF. AND SO WE, WE SIMPLY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A CASE FOR THE, THE WORK BEING DONE BEING COMPARABLE TO THE PAY OR THE WAY WE STRUCTURE PAY FOR CITY STAFF. SO I JUST, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT AND WE CAN HAVE A MORE DISCUSSION LATER ABOUT IT. THANK YOU FOR, FOR OUR VIEWING AUDIENCE, WE SHOULD PROBABLY NOTE THAT THE COUNCIL AIDES ARE CONTRACT EMPLOYEES AND ARE NOT CITY EMPLOYEES. SO IT'S A DIFFERENT PAY SCHEDULE AND PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY GOVERNED BY CITY ORDINANCE THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AGREE UPON IN TERMS OF THE NUMBERS, THEIR COMPENSATION, AND THE RANGES OF PAY AND BENEFITS. SO IT, UM, I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE MORE CONVERSATION AND WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO STUDY YOUR SHEET. THANK YOU, CHERYL. I THINK I JUST, UH, POINT OUT THAT WE'VE BEEN MAKING IMPROVEMENTS ON THAT AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ALSO PART OF IT. SO, SO THANK YOU. ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR MARIA. GREAT. SO, SO, UH, PROCESS QUESTION FOR Y'ALL. WE'RE ABOUT TWO MINUTES SHORT OF LUNCH. UH, WE'VE BUDGETED AN HOUR FOR LUNCH, BUT I'LL ALSO TELL YOU, UH, IN THE THREE YEARS NOW THAT I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY TAKEN A FULL HOUR FOR LUNCH. 'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION THAT FOLKS STILL WANTED. SO I, I'D ASK YOU, UH, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE QUESTION ANSWER SESSION GOING INTO LUNCH? ARE YOU READY TO BREAK FOR [02:30:01] LUNCH AND THEN WE COME BACK EARLY, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE FULL HOUR? UH, RECOGNIZING THAT ANY, UH, ANY TIME THAT, THAT WE CARVE INTO THE AFTERNOON SESSION IS CARVING INTO YOUR DISCUSSION TIME. SO, UH, THIS IS YOUR RETREAT, SO WE'LL SPEND AS MUCH TIME ON QUESTIONS AS YOU WANT, UH, BUT THAT ALSO IS AT THE EXPENSE OF YOUR TIME FOR DISCUSSION AS A COUNCIL. WHO DO WE, WHO DO WE STILL HAVE LEFT TO HEAR FROM? ERIC, WE ARE STILL WAITING TO HEAR. NEXT, UH, WOULD BE BEN, RIGHT? HE, HE ADDRESSED A FEW THINGS, BUT THAT WASN'T HIS TURN, SO TO SPEAK. UH, WE HAVE, UH, ERIC, AND WE HAVE ALEX. OH, THEN I THINK I WOULD, SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO TO LUNCH? YES. HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GO TO LUNCH NOW? SHOW OF HANDS. YES. I THINK WE CAN VOTE. ANDY? YES, WE CAN VOTE ON LUNCH. WE CAN VOTE ON LUNCH. . SO HOW MANY OF YOU, BY SHOW OF HANDS, WOULD LIKE TO GO TO LUNCH NOW? SO ONE, PLEASE. CAN I, CAN I SEE THOSE HANDS? WANNA GO TO LUNCH? RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU WANNA GO TO LUNCH. RAISE YOUR HAND. OKAY. FRANCISCO, CAN I, JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, AS WE GET INTO THE DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON, UH, OUR STAFF MEMBERS WILL STILL BE HERE IF THERE ARE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT WILL HELP AID THE DISCUSSION. WE, WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYBODY. ABSOLUTELY. THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYMORE. OKAY. WE HAVE HOUSE ARREST MONITORS ON EVERY ONE OF THEM, RIGHT? SO MY NEXT QUESTION, WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN FOR LUNCH. UM, WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN ABBREVIATING LUNCH SO THAT WE CAN GET BACK INTO THE QUESTIONS SO THAT WE'RE NOT ROBBING PETER TO PAY PAUL ON THE DISCUSSION TIME? 45 MINUTES. 45 MINUTES. DOES THAT SUIT YOU? SHOW OF HANDS. THE 45 MINUTES SUITS YOU, AARON. GREAT. SO, UH, BACK IN YOUR SEATS AT 1245, AND WE WILL PICK IT UP WITH BEN GOEL. SO, UH, LUNCH IS GONNA BE TWO DOORS DOWN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE. WE AJOUR. HELLO? HELLO. THERE WE GO. YEP. ALL RIGHT. IF I COULD ASK ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITY MANAGER TO MAKE THEIR WAY BACK TO THE TABLE, WE'RE GONNA RESUME. PLEASE SPEED THIS UP. MY . OH MY GOSH, WHAT IS THAT? THAT IS PLEASE ME A FINGERLING. I CAN'T DO ANY AD HO . WELL, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T CONVENED YET, SO FEEL FREE. HOW OUT? ALRIGHT, I'M POSTING THIS ON THE TWITTER RIGHT NOW. TAKE YOUR SEATS. THE TWITTER, YOU KNOW THAT BELL IS, BUT YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ME RING IT AS LOUD AS I COULD. THAT WAS GOOD. YEAH, IT ESCALATES. THEY START DOING LIKE THE, THE WINDUP MONKEY . ALL RIGHT. SO IF I COULD ASK MR. GOEL TO TAKE THE PODIUM. ANY REMAINING COUNSEL, TAKE YOUR SEATS. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST A, A REFRESHER AS WE PICK IT UP AGAIN WITH OUR Q AND AS. UH, WE'VE GOT BEN WHO'S GONNA ANSWER, UH, QUESTIONS ON THE, THE HOMESTEAD. UH, ERIC, WHO'S GONNA TALK ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE, AND ALEX THAT'S GONNA TALK ABOUT OPERATIONALIZING EQUITY. AND THEN WE, WE MOVE INTO OUR, OUR DISCUSSION WHERE Y'ALL GET TO ASSERT WHAT YOU THINK THE PRIORITIES OUGHT TO BE FOR NEXT YEAR. SO, UH, BEN, TAKE IT AWAY. SO I THINK COUNCILMAN PERRY, YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS ON THE HOMESTEAD PRESENTATION. YEAH, THANK YOU, BEN. THANKS FOR COMING BACK UP HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST, UH, CAME INTO OFFICE DURING THAT, DURING THAT CAMPAIGN, I MENTIONED IT LAST YEAR ALSO, [02:35:01] THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN OF FOLKS WERE THE RISING PROPERTY VALUES AND PROPERTY TAXES ACROSS THE CITY. AND, AND IT WASN'T JUST DISTRICT 10, IT WAS FROM AROUND THE, THE ENTIRE CITY FOR HOMEOWNERS. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THAT HAS CONTINUED TO BE A HOT ISSUE. AND AGAIN, JUST HERE RECENTLY, THE, THE, UM, NOTICES WENT OUT, YOU KNOW, WITH IT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER BIG INCREASE FOR THIS YEAR OR FOR NEXT YEAR. AND, UM, I, I WAS JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT BEING SUCH A HOT TOPIC, WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE ANYTHING IN SA SPEAK UP TO TALK ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES WITH, UH, THE CITY, UH, HAVING THAT FLEXIBILITY TO DO SOMETHING WITH OUR 20% OR ABOUT 20% OF THE PROPERTY TAX. AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING SOMETHING IN THE LINE OF, WOULD YOU, UH, WOULD YOU WANT ONE? AND IF YOU WOULD WANT ONE, WHAT WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UH, REDUCE IN SERVICES? THAT KIND OF THING. UH, JUST TO GET THAT ON A, UH, A QUESTION OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS ACROSS SAN ANTONIO. IS THAT A PRIORITY THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE? AND I'VE HEARD IT IN THE, DURING, DURING, UH, THIS LAST YEAR. WELL, WHO WOULDN'T WANT, WHO WOULDN'T WANT PROPERTY TAX, A PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION? UM, AND IF IT'S THAT MUCH OF A DEMAND, WHY AREN'T WE PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO GAUGE THAT INTEREST AND WHAT PEOPLE WOULD WANT TO SEE? AND WHAT WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO GIVE UP TO SEE THAT REDUCTION FOR OUR PORTION OF THE CITY'S PORTION ONLY? SO, COUNCILMAN, I JUST SAW JEFF WALK IN. LET ME LET JEFF, UM, RESPOND TO THAT QUESTION BEFORE . SURE, YEAH, COUNCILMAN. OH, SORRY. UM, THE, AS AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, WE TRY TO KEEP THIS, THE SURVEY REALLY TIGHT BECAUSE THE, THE POINT IS TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE, UH, TO STOP WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THE MIDDLE OF A COMMUNITY EVENT OR ONLINE AND TAKE THE SURVEY. SO WE FOCUSED ON THE MAJOR SP UH, EX UH, SPENDING CATEGORIES. WE HAVEN'T ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT REVENUES OR ABOUT, UM, TAXES. WE'VE JUST GENERALLY ASKED ABOUT CITY SERVICES AND WHERE THEY'D LIKE TO SEE THE LEVEL OF FUNDING. NOW, I, AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, THE, UH, THE RESPONSES ABOUT DECREASES WERE, WERE PRETTY SMALL. UM, EVEN IN THE, AT THE, AT THE LARGEST CATEGORY, IT WAS LESS THAN ONE IN FIVE RESPONDENTS WANTED TO SEE A DECREASE, UH, IN PUBLIC SAFETY SPENDING. BUT WE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE DID NOT ASK A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT TAXES, ABOUT EXEMPTIONS, THAT SORT OF THING. IT WAS ABOUT HOW FOLKS WANTED TO SEE THE BUD BUDGET DIVIDED UP. OKAY. WELL, AGAIN, IT JUST, YOU KNOW, IN MY, AGAIN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, GRANTED MOST OF IT IS UP IN DISTRICT 10, THAT HAS BEEN A VERY HOT TOPIC. UM, AND I THINK IT'S A HOT TOPIC THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO FOR HOMEOWNERS AND, AND THE SITUATION THAT THEY'VE GOTTEN IN. AND I, I, UM, SENT A PACKAGE TO ALL THE DIFFERENT, EVERYBODY HERE ON THE COUNCIL WITH, WHERE WE HAVE COME WITH RATES, RATE INCREASES OVER TIME, SAWS INCREASES, C P S INCREASES, PROPERTY VALUE INCREASES, BUT THERE'S NO, UH, HELP FOR THE HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE THAT ARE SEEING ALL THESE INCREASES YEAR AFTER YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE CITY OUGHT TO TAKE A LOOK AT OFFERING SOMETHING BACK AS A HOME STATE EXEMPTION TO OFFER SOME RELIEF TO THEM OUT, OUT IN THE, UH, OUT IN THE CITY. SO I'M, I'M CONTINUING TO ASK THAT QUESTION AND JUST, AND LISTENING TO COUNCILMAN KURT'S LINE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT, AND I DON'T KNOW BEN OR MARIA, ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, HOW WE COULD POSSIBLY IMPLEMENT THIS INSTEAD OF, UH, THE, I MEAN, LOOKING AT YOUR SLIDE UP HERE, YOU GOT A 5% EXEMPTION, 11 MILLION, WE'VE GOT A $13 MILLION, UH, SURPLUS FOR THIS YEAR ABOUT POSSIBLY ROLLING THAT OVER INTO, UH, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. AND INSTEAD OF JUST PAYING THAT, UH, WHAT WAS IT, 23 MILLION IN COOS CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION, GO AHEAD AND DO THE 33 OR 35, WHATEVER THAT NUMBER IS FOR, UH, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION THAT WOULD GO FOR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND OH, BY THE WAY, WE HAD THIS SURPLUS THIS YEAR. LET'S, LET'S TRY, LET'S, LET'S GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN THE FORM OF A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. SO FROM A, FROM A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION PERSPECTIVE, AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE, UM, DO'S DECISION. BUT THE 13 MILLION THAT MARIA [02:40:01] REFERENCED EARLIER, JUST TO, TO BE CLEAR, THAT ADDITIONAL ENDING BALANCE THIS YEAR IS PLUGGED INTO THE FORECAST AND IS USED TO HELP US MEET THE REQUIREMENT TO JUST GET BACK TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN STREET MAINTENANCE. AND WE'RE STILL SHORT. WE'RE HAVING TO MAKE THAT UP WITH TVOS THEN TO GET TO 110, WE'VE GOTTA ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE. YEAH. AND I, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, AND I'M SAYING INSTEAD OF MOVING THAT 13 MILLION INTO THAT AREA, LET'S LOOK AT AND A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND FUND THAT SHORTFALL TOTAL, THAT TOTAL SHORTFALL WITH COOS. AND I THINK YOU WERE SAYING WE HAD ABOUT A $10 MILLION, UH, AVAILABILITY FOR, UM, UM, FUNDING COOS AND THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH FITS THE BUDGET FOR 2019. WE WOULD HAVE TO REWORK THE DEBT PLAN, BECAUSE WHEN WE DO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, I ALSO DON'T HAVE BUILT IN THAT $2.3 MILLION IMPACT. YES. SO THE $10 MILLION ON ADDITIONAL CFOS IS PREDICATED ON NO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. SO IF WE PUT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN PLACE, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME LOST REVENUE THERE THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE RE REWORKED. UM, OKAY. BECAUSE THAT WOULD IMPACT CAPACITY. OKAY. SO IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE THAT WE COULD ADD MORE CAPACITY AS YOU'RE SUGGESTING, BECAUSE WE'D HAVE LESS REVENUE. RIGHT. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING TO SEE, UH, DURING THE, DURING THE WORKING SESSIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING AND WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE DOING AND, AND COMING UP WITH, UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE A SCENARIO PUT TOGETHER FOR THAT. OKAY, COUNCILMAN, SO, UH, HERE'S A COMMENT FROM THE TOTALLY UNEXPECTED, UH, I'M GOING TO BACK COUNCILMAN PERRY'S COMMENTARY ON, UH, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. TOTALLY UNEXPECTED. UH, I, I, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO DIG FURTHER INTO THAT. I, I, WE'VE BEEN ON THIS FOR A YEAR, UH, INTERESTED IN OF COURSE. AND I'LL SECOND THE, JUST THE COMMENTARY DIGGING INTO THE SURPLUS VERSUS THE DEBT CAPACITY VERSUS THE ACTUAL COST. AND, AND I UNDERSTAND, LOOK, I'M LOOKING AT THE 20% AND THE IMPACT. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THERE'S A BALANCE IN THERE, THOUGH, WHERE WE CAN OFFER, UH, TAX RELIEF TO OUR HOMEOWNERS. AND A LOT OF THOSE, THERE'S A LOT OF ARGUMENTS AND PLUSES AND MINUSES BOTH WAYS. BUT, UH, I JUST WANT TO CONTINUE TO PUSH AND MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP IT A PRIORITY, THAT WE HAVE A REALLY SOLID CONVERSATION ABOUT PUTTING MONEY BACK INTO THE TAXPAYER POCKETBOOKS. UH, BUT I WANTED TO ALSO RAISE, IF YOU COULD, WE COULD DIG DEEPER INTO THE MILITARY, THE DISABLED VETERAN, UM, EXEMPTION. I, I, I THINK WE CAN ALSO FIND A LOT OF COMMON GROUND AS A COUNCIL ON THAT ONE. I MEAN, OFFERING $12,500 WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN WE ARE A MILITARY CITY, U S A, WE SAW THE CHART WITH HOW MANY VETERANS WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY TO OFFER $12,500, WHICH I, I THINK WE'RE ONE THIRD. I MEAN, LOOK AT THAT DISABLED EXEMPTION RIGHT THERE FOR SAN ANTONIO. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M OF THE OPINION THAT EVERY, ANY DISABLED VETERAN IN THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS TO BE RECEIVING A LOT MORE FROM AN EXEMPTION PERSPECTIVE ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES. SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO KIND OF ADVOCATE AND MAKE A STRONG PITCH THAT OUR VETERANS, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE IT BASED ON THEIR, UM, THE PERCENTAGE OF THEIR DISABILITY. SO A MILITARY VETERAN COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO, UH, 100% DISABLED. UM, SO I'D LIKE TO KIND OF INVESTIGATE OFFERING A GRADUATED A, A SCALABLE EXEMPTION BASED ON THEIR, UH, DISABILITY PERCENTAGES. SO IF YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT DISABLED VETERAN, YOU DO NOT PAY PROPERTY TAXES, UH, YOU GET A FULL EXEMPTION ON, ON THE CITY TAX PORTION. UH, THOSE VETERANS HAVE EARNED IT. AND I THINK THE WAY, ONLY WAY WE HONOR OURSELVES AS MILITARY CITY U S A IS TO LITERALLY TAKE CARE OF THESE MEN AND WOMEN AS BEST WE CAN. SO IF WE COULD DIG DEEPER INTO THAT, I THINK IT'D BE HUGE FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SET THE TONE, WE'RE TRYING TO SET OUR COMMUNITY FOR, UH, MILITARY VETERANS. AND I'D LIKE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IMPACT REALLY LOOKS LIKE. AND IF WE CAN FIND THOSE TYPES OF NUMBERS BASED ON PERCENTAGES. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE AVAIL AVAILABLE, READILY AVAILABLE, BUT, UM, I KNOW THAT I THINK IT'S THROUGH THE COUNTY THAT A VETERAN ACTUALLY WILL TURN IN HIS CER HIS OR HER CERTIFICATE, HER PERCENTAGE TO RECEIVE EXEMPTION. SO IT'S A, SOMETHING THAT'S MEASURED, UH, EVERY YEAR IT'S RE-CERTIFIED, UH, AND OVER THE YEARS, VETERANS PERCENTAGES WILL INCREASE. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO INVESTIGATE AND DIG DEEPER INTO UNDERSTANDING, UH, HOW WE CAN HELP, UH, DISABLED VETERANS IN OUR COMMUNITY MUCH FURTHER. SO, AND OF COURSE, CONTINUE TO PUSH WHERE, WHERE COUNCILMAN PERRY'S AT AND COUNCILMAN COURAGE BRINGS UP EXCELLENT POINTS ON DECK CAPACITY. I, I SURE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH IT, AND WE CAN PULL THAT ADDITIONAL DATA. BUT JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON THE COMMENT ABOUT THE, UM, THE LEVEL OF DISABILITY, THERE ARE, UH, THERE'S AN OPTIONAL EXEMPTION, OURS, AND THEN THERE'S A STATE MANDATED EXEMPTION. BOTH OF THOSE FOLLOW THAT SS S I RATINGS. SO THE LEVEL OF DISABILITIES APPLIED TOWARDS THE EXEMPTION, AND THAT DETERMINES HOW MUCH THAT YOU GET. OH, SO, OH, WELL THAT'S GREAT. I MEAN, BUT IT'S JUST SO, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND INVENT OR, OR ASK TO BE PRODUCED. IT'S ALREADY DOCUMENTATION THEY HAVE THEN. YES. OH, WELL THEN THAT'S GREAT. AND THE ONLY REASON I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A 10% DISABLED VETERAN, YOU DON'T WANT THEM RECEIVING A FULL EXEMPTION THAT [02:45:01] SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR THE 100% FULLY DISABLED VETERAN. SO THERE, AND I THINK VETERANS WOULD BE OKAY, UH, WITH A SCALABLE, UM, RECOMMENDATION OR REDUCTION IN THEIR, UH, PROPERTY TAXES. SO SOMETHING ABOUT COUNCIL, THANK YOU, BEN. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, IT'S ME, RIGHT? YES, SAN OKAY. SO, UM, I GUESS ALONG THESE LINES, UM, WHEN WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS FOR ALL OF THE, UH, DIFFERENT, UM, DEPARTMENTS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO SEE ACTUALLY WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS IN FACT ARE, AND THEN HOW WE'RE MEETING THOSE OBLIGATIONS? SO ONE THING THAT WE'VE NEVER FULLY BEEN BRIEFED ON IS WHAT IS OUR OBLIGATION FOR FACILITIES? UM, WE KNOW THAT WE SPEND X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS ON FACILITIES, BUT WE NEVER HAVE SEEN WHAT THE ACTUAL OBLIGATION IS. WE KNOW WHAT IT, WHAT WE SPEND. UH, I THINK THE SAME IS TRUE FOR, I KNOW MANY MUCH OF THE STREET MAINTENANCE, UH, A LOT THE RESEARCH THAT I'VE BEEN DOING SHOWS THAT WE SPEND ABOUT $20,000 A YEAR ON STREET MAINTENANCE, BUT THE ACTUAL COST IS ABOUT 89 MILLION, UH, OR AS MUCH AS 120 MILLION. UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STORM DRAINAGE, WE, WE KNOW WHAT WE SPEND, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL COST OF THAT. AND SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN OUR PRESENTATIONS SO THAT AS WE'RE ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES OF EXEMPTIONS, THAT WE GET A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE VERSUS WHAT WE SPEND GIVEN OUR BUDGET, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN A BALANCED BUDGET. I THINK THE CITY DOES A, A REALLY GREAT JOB GIVEN THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE. UH, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S, UM, A DESIRE TO SEE MORE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS, MORE POLICE OFFICERS, OR AT LEAST, UH, THAT'S MY SENSE FROM THE COMMUNITY IS THAT THEY WANT MORE INVESTED IN PUBLIC SAFETY, BUT GIVEN THE EXPENSES, UH, WE, THIS, THAT'S ONLY HOW MUCH WE HAVE TO BUDGET. SO I, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT AT SOME POINT WE DO GET A FULL PICTURE OF WHAT OUR OBLIGATIONS ARE VERSUS THE INVESTMENT THAT WE HAVE TO PUT INTO THEM. UH, AND ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, BEN, COULD YOU TALK, WE WERE HAVING A CONVERSATION OVER LUNCH ABOUT, UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL AND OUR, UH, INCREASE IN SCHOOL SPENDING. AND I WANT YOU, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEND TOO MUCH TIME TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE REALLY THE INCREASES THAT WE'VE SEEN ARE AS A RESULT OF INCREASED SCHOOL TAXES, AND THEN WHAT'S HAPPENING AT THE STATE LEVEL AND HOW THAT'S IMPACT IMPACTING US. BECAUSE I STILL THINK THAT GEN, THE, LIKE GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THAT IT, THE CITY IS NOT THE, WHERE THE INCREASES ARE COMING FROM. IT'S ACTUALLY COMING FROM OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THE DESIRE TO SEE OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS FUNDED, UH, TO A BETTER, AT, AT A MORE RESPECTABLE LEVEL. AND THAT THE WAY THAT WE COMPENSATE FOR THAT IS BY RAISING TAXES IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO A COUPLE THINGS. COUNCILWOMAN, UM, THE SLIDE THEY JUST POPPED UP THERE. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET A BACKUP SLIDE UP REAL QUICK, BUT THIS ONE JUST KIND OF REITERATES AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A, A TYPICAL TAX BILL IN SAN ANTONIO ABOUT, UM, 48, ALMOST 50% OF IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICT YOU'RE IN, THIS IS GONNA BE PRETTY TYPICAL, IS GONNA BE FOR FUNDING SCHOOLS. THE CITY'S GONNA BE AT ABOUT 22%. AND THEN ABOUT 30% IS, UM, THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES BEING THE COUNTY RIVER AUTHORITY, UNIVERSITY HEALTH SYSTEM. UM, THE BACKUP SLIDE THEY'RE GONNA TRY TO PULL UP IS, IS ONE I'VE, I'VE USED BEFORE. AND IT TALKS ABOUT, UM, THE LEVEL OF FUNDING THAT COMES FROM THE STATE, AND IT SHOWS HOW SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE FINANCED. SOME WITH OUT OF THE STATE BUDGET AND SOME OUT OF LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES. UM, SORRY. SO I CAN LOOK HERE. SO TWO, THIS GOES FROM 2012 TO 2019. YOU CAN SEE BACK IN 2012, UM, LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES WERE FUNDING 54% OF SCHOOLS, AND THE STATE WAS FUNDING 46%. AND IF YOU LOOK OVER TO 2018, LOCAL TAXES NOW MAKE UP LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES NOW MAKE UP 60% OF THE FUNDING FOR SCHOOLS WHILE THE STATE HAS DROPPED THEIR, THEIR DIRECT FUNDING OUT OF THEIR BUDGET TO 40%. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER GOING DOWN IN 2019 BECAUSE AS PART OF THE, THE STATE BUDGET PROCESS, WHEN THEY BALANCE THIS BIENNIUM, THEY ASSUME JEFF, A 14%, I THINK, INCREASE OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS. SO BUILT INTO THEIR BUDGET WAS AN ASSUMPTION THAT PROPERTY TAXES WERE GOING TO GO UP AND THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE THEIR, THEIR SPENDING FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. SO WHILE THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AT THE STATE LEVEL AND, AND WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH PROPERTY TAXES, THIS IS THE PICTURE OF [02:50:01] WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH HOW SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE BEING FUNDED WITH THE STATE ACTUALLY PUTTING IN LESS DOLLARS AND RELYING MORE ON LOCAL PROPERTY TAXES TO FUND IT. SO I JUST, I, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT SLIDE TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE'RE MAKING PRIORITY DECISIONS, UM, THAT A LOT OF THE INCREASES THAT WE SEE ARE ACTUALLY AS A RESULT OF THE STATE NOT DOING THEIR PART TO FUND OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS. AND A RESULT AS, AS A RESULT, WE'RE HAVING TO SPEND MORE OF OUR GENERAL FUND, OR RATHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING UP ACCORDING TO THIS MODEL, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. UH, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT CURRENTLY MEETING OUR OBLIGATIONS. WE ARE MAINTAINING A BALANCED BUDGET, AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF THAT. IT HELPS US TO MAINTAIN OUR AAA BOND RATING. UM, AND I THINK WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB THAT I, I THINK WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE EXTENT OF STORM, UH, AND STORM WATER, UM, DRAINAGE CONCERNS, SIDEWALKS, STREET MAINTENANCE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE DO, UH, WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO TO HAVE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF OUR CITIZENS. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMAN APPEAR. UH, JUST WANTED TO COME A LITTLE BIT BACK ON THAT AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL TAX BILLS FROM THE FEDERAL AND AND STATE LEVEL. WE'VE BEEN WORK WAITING OVER 30 YEARS HERE AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR SOME KIND OF A FUNDING FIX FOR OUR, UH, SCHOOLS AND PROPERTY TAXES. AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT WE NEED TO BIND OURSELVES OR WITH THE, WITH THE FEAR THAT, UH, SOMETHING ELSE IS GONNA HAPPEN THAT IS GONNA FORCE OUR HAND HERE LOCALLY. UH, BUT WE DO CONTROL 20% OF EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS COLLECTED ON PROPERTY TAXES. AND THAT IS WITHIN OUR CONTROL THAT NONE OF THAT GOES TO SCHOOLS. NONE OF THAT GOES TO SCHOOLS THAT IS GOING INTO OUR OPERATING FUND, THAT WE DO HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO HELP OUR CITIZENS THAT OWN HOMES, TO STAY IN HOMES TO MAKE 'EM MORE AFFORDABLE. IT FALLS INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, THING THAT MAYOR, YOU HAVE THIS, UH, UM, UH, COMMITTEE THAT'S WORKING ON THAT NOW. I THINK THIS SHOULD FALL INTO THAT AS WELL. UH, IT'S ALL ABOUT HAVING AFFORDABLE HOMES AND PART OF THAT BEING AFFORDABLE IS THE TAXES THAT THEY'RE HAVING TO PAY EVERY YEAR, UH, TO THE STATE, TO THE SCHOOLS AND TO THE CITY, WHICH IS AGAIN, ABOUT 20%. AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CONTROL TO DO SOMETHING WITH, TO HELP OUR HOMEOWNERS OUT THERE. AND IT'S GREAT. UH, IF YOU CAN GO TO 75, AGAIN, SLIDE 75, IF YOU LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO THERE, WE HAVE A GOOD START. I'M NOT SAYING THAT, UH, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, WE ARE DOING SOMETHING. BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO OTHER CITIES HERE IN TEXAS, WE'RE WAY BEHIND OTHER CITIES ON WHAT, UH, WE'RE HELPING OUR HOMEOWNERS OUT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. COUNCILMAN, IS THERE A QUESTION FORTHCOMING? YES. AND I'M SAYING, WHY CAN'T WE INCREASE THAT LOCAL HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO COME UP TO SOME LEVEL OR A BETTER LEVEL IN ACCORDANCE WITH OTHER CITIES HERE IN, IN TEXAS? AND, AND, UM, COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE'S QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE DISABLED. YEAH, WE'RE, WE'RE WAY BEHIND IN OTHER, OTHER CITIES HERE IN TEXAS. SO, UH, MY QUESTION IS WHY CAN'T WE SEEM TO WANT TO COMPETE WITH OTHER TEXAS CITIES AS FAR AS, UH, WAGE WAGES AND BENEFITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? BUT WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING OUR HOMEOWNERS, WE'RE NOT WILLING TO PUT FORWARD THAT EXTRA EFFORT TO HELP OUT OUR HOMEOWNERS. SO MY QUESTION IS WHY CAN'T WE AND WHY CAN'T WE FIND THE FUNDS TO DO THAT? THAT IS CERTAINLY AN OPTION THAT YOU ALL CAN LOOK AT. I THINK THAT, UM, THE OTHER TAKEAWAY FROM THIS SLIDE THOUGH, WHEN YOU COMPARE US TO OTHER CITIES IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT LAST COLUMN, AGAIN, IT SHOWS THE TOTAL REVENUE FOREGONE. YOU CAN SEE WE'RE AT 47 MILLION COMPARED TO SOMEBODY LIKE AUSTIN WHO'S AT 30.78. THEY'VE GOT A HIGHER AV BUT DON'T ALSO LOOK, THE, THE OTHER PART THAT, UM, IS EASY TO LOSE IN THIS SLIDE IS THAT SECOND TO THE LAST COLUMN, THE SENIOR TAX FREEZE. SO FOUR OF THOSE CITIES THAT WE'VE GOT LISTED UP THERE, INCLUDING HOUSTON, AUSTIN, DALLAS, AND EL PASO, DON'T HAVE THAT SENIOR FREEZE. SO WHILE THEY'VE GOT AN OVER 65 EXEMPTION, MEANING THAT WHEN YOU TURN 65, THE DOLLAR VALUES WE HAVE LISTED UNDER THAT COLUMN, THAT PORTION OF THE HOME VALUES NO LONGER TAXED WHEN YOU TURN 65. BUT AS APPRAISALS GROW, THEIR TAX BILL GROWS [02:55:01] OURS AND SHOWED YOU ON THAT PREVIOUS SLIDE, 45% OF OUR HOMESTEADS IN SAN ANTONIO, THEY REACH 65, THEY GET A $65,000 EXEMPTION, MEANING THAT PORTION OF THE HOME IS NO LONGER TAXED AT ALL. THE BILL IS RECALCULATED DOWN AND IT'S FROZEN. THE ACTUAL BILL IS FROZEN. AND I THINK THIS HAS BEEN, UM, I WANNA STRESS THIS POINT 'CAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A QUESTION THAT COMES UP A LOT IS IT'S, IT'S THE ACTUAL PROPERTY TAX BILL, THE DOLLAR VALUE THAT'S FROZEN, NOT THE VALUE. SO PEOPLE GET THEIR NOTICES AND THEY MAY SEE, HEY, MY HOME WENT FROM A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO 175,000. HOW COULD THAT POSSIBLY HAPPEN? OR 150,000, 175,000, HOW COULD THAT POSSIBLY HAPPEN? MY TAXES ARE FROZEN, THE TAX BILL IS FROZEN, THE VALUE CAN INCREASE. BUT IF THEIR TAX BILL WAS, YOU KNOW, $3,000, IT'S LOCKED IN AT $3,000 AND IT STAYS THAT WAY AS LONG AS THEY OWN THAT HOMESTEAD. SO THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE FOR US VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT ARE LISTED THERE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE POINT THAT OUT. YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. BUT NOT ALL OF THOSE, UH, TAXES ARE FROZEN. UH, SOME OF THOSE TAXES CONTINUE TO GO UP. UM, LIKE THE HOSPITAL DISTRICT, THE, UM, THE, UM, UH, COMMUNITY COLLEGES, THAT KIND OF THING. THOSE CONTINUE TO GO UP. SO, UM, UM, YEAH, WHAT, SO ON WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M GETTING AT BEN, IS WE NEED TO SHOW SOME OPTIONS THERE. HOW WE CAN GET TO, TO THE, UM, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AT WHATEVER LEVEL THAT, UM, WE CAN AFFORD HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. AND ONE OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION AGAIN, UH, PROVIDE THAT ACCESS TO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND GO COOS FOR, UM, FOR THE STREETS. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. SO, JUST TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION REAL QUICK, THE TAXES THAT WOULD BE FROZEN HERE WOULD BE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY. THE RIVER AUTHORITY AND THE COUNTY ROAD AND FLOOD ARE THE ONES THAT, UM, ARE NOT THE COUNTY ROAD AND FLOOD, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, COUNTY UNIVERSITY SYSTEM ARE THE TWO COMPONENTS THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO GROW. WHEN YOU TURN 65, EVERYTHING ELSE IS FROZEN. THE BIGGER PARTS OF THE BILL ARE FROZEN. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. YEAH, WHILE YOU'RE UP HERE. THEN, UM, ON PAGE 24, IT SHOWS OUR CURRENT YEAR'S, UH, ACTIVITY. AND IT SAYS REVENUE OF ONE THANK 1,119 MILLION FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR FOR DISCRETIONARY SPENDING OR THAT CATEGORY. UH, BUT I SEE ON PAGE 30, THE PROJECTION, UH, FOR 2019 IS 1,000,000,290 PLUS MILLION. THAT'S A $100 MILLION INCREASE IN PROJECTED REVENUE FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, ACCORDING TO THOSE NUMBERS. AND UM, NOW I, I KNOW IN THOSE NUMBERS WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, UH, WHAT ARE OUR COMPENSATION INCREASES GONNA BE. I KNOW, UH, WE'RE GONNA ADD SOME MONEY FOR VIA, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE ADDING SOME MONEY FOR STREETS. UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICERS WE'RE BRINGING AND EVERYTHING, BUT I I, IT JUST DOESN'T SHOW US WHERE THAT A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IS GONNA BE SPENT, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT WE'RE SAYING WE NEED ANOTHER 23.2 MILLION ON TOP OF THAT ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED MILLION OVER LAST YEAR. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF ADDITIONAL MONEY, COUNCILMAN. AND JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU COMPARING THE 2018 BUDGET OF 1.2 BILLION COMPARED TO THE 1.299? IS THAT, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY TO MAKE SURE. WAS IT 1.19? SO ARE YOU COMPARING REVENUES COUNCILMAN? YEAH. OKAY. SO WHAT THIS INCLUDES, AND THERE'S A FOOTNOTE NUMBER EIGHT, THAT, THAT INCLUDES THE USE OF RESOURCE FROM THE PRIOR FISCAL YEAR. SO, AND WE DO A TWO YEAR BALANCE BUDGET AND WE RESERVE ABOUT 5% TO BALANCE THE NEXT YEAR BUDGET. SO THAT NUMBER INCLUDES, UH, $77 MILLION THAT WE ARE SAVING IN 2018 TO BE ABLE TO, UH, DO ALL OF OUR COMMITMENTS IN 2019. SO THAT IS INCLUDED IN THAT NUMBER. AND THEN THE APPROPRIATIONS AND THE PROJECTED EXPENSES, THAT LETTER B ALSO INCLUDES THE SET ASIDE FOR RESERVES FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR. OKAY. SO THE 77 MILLION IS UNSPENT MONEY THAT WE HELD IN RESERVE IN THE LAST BUDGET. THAT IS PART OF OUR 15% ENDING BALANCE FOR FINANCIAL RESERVES. OH, OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT 15% OF THAT WE STILL WANT HOLD THE RESERVE TO CORRECT? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. IT, IT JUST SEEMED LIKE THAT WAS A HUNDRED. SO ACTUALLY YOU'RE HAVING HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL FUNDING THEN IF YOU WITHHOLD [03:00:01] THAT 77? SO THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE COMPARED TO THE ADOPTED BUDGET FOR 2018 TO THE FORECAST IN 19 IS ABOUT $39 MILLION. THAT IS AN INCREASE IN PROPERTY TAX, C P S SALES TAX AND OTHER REVENUES. AND THE WAY THAT WE ARE, UM, PROJECTING TO UTILIZE THOSE DOLLARS, WE HAVE, UM, UM, DIFFERENT, UH, CATEGORIES. FOR INSTANCE, OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH POLICE WILL TAKE ABOUT $8.2 MILLION OF THAT NEW ALLOCATION. UH, WE ALSO HAVE, WHAT I TALKED ABOUT, OUR CIVILIAN STEP PAY PLAN, PERFORMANCE PAY, UH, ADDITIONAL COST FOR, UM, UH, FUEL, UH, INCREASES IN OUR COMPLETED, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE SOME PARKS THAT WILL BE COMPLETED IN 2019 THAT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL EXPENSE WAGE BUDGET. NO, THIS IS A PERSONNEL, UH, TO MAINTAIN THE, THE PARKS AND HOW MUCH WAS ALL OF THAT? SO ALL THAT COMBINED IS $16 MILLION. AND THEN THE BALANCE IS WHAT WE ARE RESERVING FOR STREET MAINTENANCE TO BE ABLE TO GET US AS CLOSE AS WE CAN TO THE 99 MILLION. AND THEN THE 22.8 THAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN IS WHAT WE WOULD NEED AN ADDITIONAL SPENDING TO GET TO ONE 10. AND SO NONE OF THIS INCLUDES THE $38 MILLION FOR CITY HALL? NO, SIR. 'CAUSE WE'RE LOOKING AT CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION FOR THAT. NONE OF IT INCLUDES ANY KIND OF TAX RELIEF. THAT IS CORRECT. NONE OF IT INCLUDES ANY MORE DOLLARS FOR HOUSING FUNDING. THAT IS CORRECT. AND NONE OF IT INCLUDES, LET'S SAY, A HIGHER CO COST OF LIVING. RIGHT. THAT WOULDN'T BE INCLUDED EITHER, BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IS THAT 1% 1% CALL THAT, THAT I MENTIONED. OKAY. IT DOES INCLUDE THE ADDED 25 ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS, WHICH WE'VE FORECASTED FOR A FEW YEARS. THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE BELOW THE LINE. SO YOU SEE THAT IN THE 25 OFFICERS. SO SOME OF IT IS INCLUDED, BUT NOT ALL OF IT APPARENTLY. RIGHT. NONE OF IT IS. SO ANY ADDITIONAL POLICE OFFICERS OR FIREFIGHTERS, IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE BASE BUDGET. THAT WOULD BE ADDITIONAL SPENDING $3 MILLION? IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? NO, THAT'S THREE. THAT'S TO HIRE LATE IN THE FISCAL YEAR, ADDING THE OFFICERS. SO IT'S A PARTIAL YEAR OF FUNDING FOR THEM. BUT THAT'S ONLY $300,000. THAT IS RIGHT. OKAY. SO THEY'D BE HIRED VERY LATE IN THE YEAR, BUT IT'S BELOW THE LINE, AS SHE SAID. IT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET FORECAST YET. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AND I'D LIKE TO ASK BEN ANOTHER QUESTION ONCE MORE. I'M GONNA COUNCILMAN CUR, WE'VE GOT FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, SO I'M GONNA GO TO THEM AND THEN WE CAN FAIR ENOUGH. KEEP GOING. UH, COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ AND THEN ELIA. AND THEN, SORRY, GOING BACK TO SOME OF THE STUFF THAT PETER PRESENTED EARLIER. AND THEN NOW TO YOU BEN, UH, DO RENTERS BENEFIT AT ALL FROM A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION? NO. UH, NO. THE HOMESTEAD, UM, UH, UH, EXEMPTION ONLY APPLIES TO HOMESTEAD. TO HOMESTEAD, SO RIGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PROPERTY, OKAY, GOT IT. THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU, BEN. UM, I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND HOW THE MONEY'S DIVVIED UP. MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT WE GET 22% RIGHT? AND ALL THE OTHER AUTHORITIES GET WHATEVER'S NOT THAT PART OF OUR SLICE OF THAT PIE. THAT'S CORRECT. LET'S ASSUME THAT ALL OF US END UP ONE DAY SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE OKAY WITH JUST TAKING HOME 11%. RIGHT? AND WE REALLY, WE JUST NEED 11% FOR THIS YEAR. 'CAUSE THAT'S ALL WE'RE GONNA SPEND ON, THIS IS A CRAZY THEORETICAL, UH, HYPOTHETICAL, BUT JUST GO WITH ME. WHAT HAPPENS, DO, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S RESIDENTS GET 11% RETURN TO THEM OR THEY GET AN 11% DISCOUNT? OR DO THE OTHER ENTITIES EAT UP THAT 11%? THE LATTER COULD BE THE CASE BECAUSE YOU, WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CITY PORTION OF IT. SO IF YOU WERE TO, IN YOUR SCENARIO, CUT OURS TO 11%, WHAT THE HOMEOWNER SEES AT THE END OF THE DAY WOULD DEPEND ON WHAT THOSE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES DO. SO IF SCHOOL DISTRICTS WENT UP, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN THAT WOULD EAT INTO WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN BACK IN TERMS OF PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. OKAY. THANKS. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU. UM, SOME QUESTIONS OF CLARIFICATION. UH, CONTINUING ON THAT, THE SLIDE 79 AND 80. SO CAN YOU GO OVER, UH, EXPLAIN TO ME THESE, UM, AS WELL? SO ALL OF THESE ON HERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE HOMESTEADS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. AND EXPLAIN TO ME THIS PURPLE ONE, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE SAME THING, BUT JUST ALL IN PURPLE ON 80, SLIDE 80. SO, UM, [03:05:02] THE PREVIOUS TWO SLIDES, UM, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND 78 AND 79 MARKET VALUE, BUT SO IS 80 THE, IS, ARE THOSE, MY QUESTION IS, ARE THOSE TWO DIFFERENT PURPLES, OR IS THAT JUST ALL THE HOMESTEADS OVER 65 EXEMPTION IN THE CITY? ALL OF THE PURPLES ARE JUST, UM, HOMESTEADS THAT, UM, HAVE THE 8 65 EXEMPTION AND THEIR TAXES ARE FROZEN. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT, UH, CLARIFICATION. UM, AND ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, SO GOING BACK TO I THINK THE, THE LINE OF QUESTIONING THAT WAS HAPPENING AND, AND ALSO GOING BACK TO PETER'S, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED WHAT WAS MENTIONED, LIKE WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR CONTROL AND OUR CONTROL IS THE TAX RATE, WHICH WE HAVE, AND ALSO THE EXEMPTIONS OF WHAT WE CAN GIVE. UM, SO MY QUESTION, BUT THEN GOING BACK TO WHAT, UH, PETER WAS SHOWING US, IS THAT THE MAJORITY OF, OH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE TELLING US THIS, SOMEBODY WAS, UM, ABOUT THE MAJORITY OF H NEW HOU OR HOUSES HOME OWNERSHIP IS EITHER OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS OR GOING DECREASING IN THE CITY, THE CITY PROPER, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT MORE MORTGAGES COMING OUT. CORRECT. AND THAT'S, YOU COVERED THAT, THAT, UM, THE DECREASE. SO THERE ARE SINGLE FAMILIES BEING BUILT, BUT IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS. IT'S IN THE, IN UNINCORPORATED. YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT. YEAH. MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE, WE ARE STILL GROWING HOMES HERE, BUT IT'S ONLY 800 OF 6,500 THAT ARE PRODUCED ANNUALLY OF 6,500 PLACES TO LIVE. ONLY 800 ARE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO THE WHAT'S THAT IN THE CITY? IN THE CITY. I SEE. RIGHT. I SEE. SO THE MAJORITY ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY, IN THE, IN WESTERN BEAR COUNTY, NORTHWESTERN BAYAR COUNTY OR PEOPLE COULD BE LIVING OUTSIDE THE COUNTY ALTOGETHER IN, UH, NORTH NEW BRAUNFELS IS, UH, I MEAN, UH, NEW BRAUNFELS IS AN, IS AN EXAMPLE IN COMMUTING TO SAN ANTONIO. SO, UM, ON THAT NOTE THEN, ARE THESE, DO WE HAVE DATA IF THESE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS? I'M SORRY. DO WE HAVE DATA IF THESE PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS? UH, WE, WE DO. I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME TODAY, BUT WE DO. AND THE DATA SHOWS THAT THEY ARE TRAVELING INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, RIGHT? WE KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN BEXAR COUNTY THAT COME INTO THE CITY EVERY DAY TO WORK, 84% OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN BEXAR COUNTY, NOT IN THE CITY LIMITS, TRAVEL INTO THE CITY EVERY DAY. THAT WAS A TEX HOT STUDY THAT WAS DONE. OKAY. SO 84% OF THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY, UH, DO TRAVEL INTO THE CITY EVERY DAY TO WORK. OKAY? MM-HMM. , THAT'S A FACT. UM, SO, AND ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU ALSO GAVE US, AND I THINK AS MOVING FORWARD AS CONSIDERATIONS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS LOOK AT THOSE, UM, OTHER CONSIDERATIONS ARE LEGISLATIVE OPTIONS, WHETHER THAT IS AT A FEDERAL LEVEL OR NO, AT, AT A FEDERAL LEVEL OR AT A STATE LEVEL IN OPTIONS, BECAUSE AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, THE, UH, THE TAX RATE, WE CAN FIX IT OR IT CAN BE FORCED DOWN UPON US AS WELL, BUT THE APPRAISALS CAN STILL BE GOING UP. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THE APPRAISALS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE NECESSARILY ARE DICTATING WHAT'S GOING UP AND DOWN AS A CITY. UM, BUT I DO KNOW THAT MY RESIDENTS ARE STILL DEMANDING THE STREETS AND THE SIDEWALKS AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, AND TRANSIT TO GET THEM FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER. SO I THINK THAT IS, UM, JUST THE CLARIFICATION AND THE POINTS THAT I WANTED TO SHARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL SAL. SO BEN, I WANT TO BE SMART ABOUT THIS. WHEN I GET INTO THE, WHEN WE GET INTO THE POINT OF ACTUALLY POLICY DISCUSSION ABOUT HOMESTEAD OR NOT HOMESTEAD, THE THE CONCEPT OF, OF PROPERTY RELIEF, I THINK IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE TO DEFINE IT, UM, IT SHOULD GO TO FOLKS WHO REALLY, TRULY NEED THE RELIEF. AND THE QUESTION IS ONE ABOUT CAN YOU TARGET THIS IN A WAY THAT WOULD, UH, TAKE OUT, YOU KNOW, A MILLION DOLLAR HOME IN THE DOMINION, DOMINION OR, OR SOMEBODY WHO HAS A HOME VALUE OVER $500,000, UM, IN, IN SORT OF, WOULD THE STATE ALLOW US TO SORT OF CUT UP IN THAT WAY? UH, NO, SIR. IT'S, UH, IF YOU, UM, IMPLEMENT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, IT'S APPLIED TO ALL HOMESTEADS, EVEN THOSE THAT ARE FROZEN AND HAVE REACHED AGE 65. SO IF YOU, SO IF WE WANTED TO, YOU COULDN'T SAY YOU COULDN'T SET A NUMBER EVEN MILLION DOLLARS IN LESS. NO, SIR. YOU, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SET A AGE LIMIT, 65. THE AGE IS PROVIDED FOR, IS AN OPTION UNDER STATE STATUTE. UM, BUT THERE'S NO FLEXIBILITY AROUND THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. UM, WHAT I LISTED ON THAT SLIDE, UH, EARLIER, YOU HAVE TO DO IT AS A PERCENT OF THE HOME VALUE, AND IT'S GOTTA BE ALL HOMESTEADS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION. SO YOU CAN SET IT UP [03:10:01] TO 20%, AND IT HAS TO BE A MINIMUM OF AT LEAST $5,000 PER HOUSEHOLD. SO THAT WAS THE, THE FIRST OPTION WE LISTED THERE IS YOU COULD DO LIKE A, A 0.1% OF A HOMESTEAD, AND THAT WOULD GET YOU TO THE, EVERYBODY GETS $5,000 OPTION. AND THEN EVERYTHING BEYOND THAT, UM, OPTIONS WOULD BE BASED ON A PERCENTAGE OF THE HOME VALUE. BUT YOU CANNOT, UM, DEVIATE FROM THAT. THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. OKAY. AND THE, UH, LAST QUESTION. IS IT, UH, WHEN WAS THE 65 YEAR OLD OR IMPLEMENTED IN SAN ANTONIO? 2003, FOUR? I DON'T, I WOULD'VE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT THE SENIOR FREEZE WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2005. OKAY. BUT THE, THE, UM, 8 65 EXEMPTION, THERE WAS A DOLLAR VALUE ALREADY IN PLACE, UH, PRIOR TO 2005. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT STARTED. OKAY. I, I JUST REMEMBER READING ARTICLES ABOUT WITHIN THOSE TIMEFRAMES, 2003, 2004, THAT, THAT'S WHEN THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT, IT WAS 2004, 2005, WE HAD A LOCAL ELECTION TO, UM, IMPLEMENT THE SENIOR TAX FREEZE. OKAY. THANK YOU, BEN. SO, UH, THANK YOU, BEN. WE'RE GONNA BRING UP ERIC TO TALK ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE. I THINK YOU HAD THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN INITIALLY? YES, SIR. YES, SIR. UH, SLIDE 85 AND 86. YES, SIR. YEAH, THAT, THAT LOOKS, UH, THAT LOOKS GREAT. UH, THESE ARE, UH, THEN YOU HAD SLIDE 86. I, I WAS JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE THAT'S REALLY THE SAME DATA BEING SHOWN ON THOSE TWO SLIDES, OR NOT THAT SLIDE. THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE IS JUST VACANCIES. AND THIS NUMBER RIGHT HERE IS, UH, THE AUTHORIZED VERSUS THE ACTUAL FILTH. SO ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING, BUT THIS IS THE TOTALS, RIGHT? THAT'S THE TOTALS. OKAY. SO THERE'S, AND I REMEMBER THIS DISCUSSION FROM LAST YEAR, BUT I'M STILL UNCLEAR AS TO, UH, THE TOTAL NUMBERS HERE. AND MAYBE WE COULD, UH, I GUESS THIS WOULD BE FINE TOO. UH, THERE, THERE'S BEEN A QUESTION SWORN OFFICERS, AND ARE CADETS FIGURED INTO THESE NUMBERS AS FAR AS THE VACANCIES FILLED? YES, SIR. IN THAT 2316 2018 YEAR TO DATE, THAT INCLUDES 110 CADETS THAT ARE CURRENTLY OUT AT THE ACADEMY. SO SHOULD WE BE COUNTING THE CADET NUMBERS BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT REALLY OUT THERE ON THEIR OWN FOR HOW LONG? SIX MONTHS? WELL, SIX MONTHS. AND THEN THEY RIDE, HAVE, THEY HAVE A RIDE ALONG WITH A, UH, FIELD TRAINING OFFICER FOR, UH, SEVERAL WEEKS, I'M SORRY, SEVERAL MONTHS. AND THEN THEY'RE OUT ON THEIR OWN. UM, WE COUNT THEM AS FILLED, UM, PRIMARILY BECAUSE, UM, WE'RE MEASURING HOW MANY POSITIONS DO WE LITERALLY HAVE VACANT IN, IN TERMS OF, OF ACTUAL OFFICERS. IF YOU SUBTRACT THE 23 6 OR THE 110 FROM THE 2316, THAT'S, UM, THE, UH, THE NUMBER OF PATROL OFFICERS, IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR'S DISCUSSION, WE HAVE, UM, PATROL DISTRICT BACKFILL THAT'S DONE ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS. SO THERE AREN'T ANY VACANT PATROL OFFICER POSITIONS OUT THERE, OR VACANT PATROL ASSIGNMENTS ON A DAILY BASIS. UM, I THINK IF WE, IF WE DIDN'T DO THAT, THEN, THEN MAYBE YOU'D WANT TO CALCULATE THIS DIFFERENTLY, BUT FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE SERVICE AND RESPONDING TO 9 1 1 CALLS, UM, WE, WE FILL THOSE ON OUR VOLUNTARY OVERTIME BASIS EVERY DAY, EVERY SHIFT. AND, AND WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING, UH, OVERTIME, UH, CONSISTENTLY ON, ON THE BOOKS TO FILL THESE POSITIONS. AND, AND I, I GUESS I, I'M STILL UNEASY ABOUT SHOWING THIS AS A, AS A TRUE, UM, PERSON OUT THERE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON THEIR OWN. THEY'RE HAVING TO, IT'S STILL PART OF THE TRAINING PROGRAM FOR UP TO ANOTHER SIX MONTHS. RIGHT. AND SO WE REALLY DON'T HAVE, TO ME, WE'RE NOT, THOSE POSITIONS ARE NOT FULLY FILLED YET, RIGHT. UM, BASED ON THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO GO OUT THERE ON THEIR OWN, THEY'RE STILL UNDER TRAINED. THIS IS, THIS IS A CONVEYOR BELT. IT'S A, IT'S A MACHINE THAT NEEDS TO BE FED CONSISTENTLY, RIGHT. AND CONSTANTLY, UM, OFFICERS DECIDE TO RETIRE OR DISCIPLINARY ISSUES COME UP. THE MACHINE NEEDS TO BE IN HIGH PRODUCTION OVER THERE. AND, AND IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE OUT THE CADETS OUT OF, OUT OF THAT, UH, 2018, UM, WE'VE GOT 2206 FILLED OFFICER [03:15:01] POSITIONS. THE LAST TIME WE HAD THAT, THAT MANY FIELD OFFICER POSITIONS WAS IN THE 2014 STAT OF 2258. THERE WERE 2235 FIELD OFFICER POSITIONS. SO I THINK THE POINT HERE IS THAT, THAT THAT ORANGE LINE ON THIS CHART DIPPED IN 15 AND 16 AND IS ON ITS WAY BACK UP RIGHT NOW, MEAN, I THINK THE STATEMENT I MADE WHEN I, WHEN I PRESENTED THIS, WAS THAT THE LAST TIME WE HAD 2300 OFFICERS, OR I'M SORRY, POSITIONS FILLED WAS 2013, UNDER YOUR LOGIC, IF WE WANT TO AHEAD AND SUBTRACTED OUT TO CADETS, THEN IT'S STILL HIGHER THAN IT WAS OVER THE LAST, UH, FOUR YEARS. IT HADN'T BEEN THAT HIGH SINCE 2014. AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I, TO ME, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF SHOWING A FALSE PICTURE OF HOW MANY AUTHORIZATIONS WE HAVE VERSUS HOW MANY ARE FILLED. AND THAT'S MY ISSUE WITH THIS, IS THAT REALLY THE CADETS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND, AND, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE STILL IN THIS TRAINING MODE MM-HMM. FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, REALLY THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT FILLING THAT AUTHORIZATION FOR THAT TIME. AND THAT, THAT'S MY QUESTION. I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT TO SEE HOW WE'RE GONNA FILL ALL OF OUR AUTHORIZATIONS, UH, THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE FOR THE TRAINING CLASSES THAT ARE, THAT ARE STILL IN PRODUCTION. UH, BUT IF YOU, AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE OUT THOSE, THOSE CADETS AND THEIR CADETS UNTIL THEY GET THROUGH WITH THEIR TRAINING, UH, WE'RE STILL A WAYS AWAY FROM HAVING OUR AUTHORIZATIONS FILLED. COUNCILMAN, IF I CAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CORRECT. AND GO BACK TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 86. SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST TO ADDRESS YOUR IS ISSUE AS A FOOTNOTE TO SAY THAT OF THE TWENTY FOUR THIRTY ONE, ONE HUNDRED AND TEN OF THOSE ARE CADETS, AND THAT WE ARE FILLING THOSE CADET POSITIONS THROUGH VOLUNTARY OVERTIME. SO THE POINT BEING, AND I THINK IT'S INDICATIVE OF THE EARLIER SLIDE THAT, UH, ERIC SHOWED THAT CRIME IS DOWN, RESPONSE TIMES ARE DOWN, EVEN CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE DOWN BECAUSE OF THE STRATEGIC MANAGEMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF WHERE THE CRIME IS OCCURRING AND THE FOCUS ON SERIOUS CRIME. SO I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND IN YOUR ACCURATE, AND WE ARE CONDUCTING MORE CLASSES THAN WE EVER HAVE IN THE PAST, UH, WITH AN AVERAGE OF 45 TO 50 CADETS IN EACH ONE OF THOSE CLASSES. SO I THINK ON THAT CHART, TO FOOTNOTE THAT TO SAY 110 ARE CADETS AND THAT WE ARE SERVICING THE FULL AUTHORIZATION THROUGH VOLUNTARY OVERTIME, THEN WOULD ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION. OKAY. UM, AS FAR AS HAVING THAT DELTA THOUGH, HOW, HOW FAR IN THE FUTURE ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT TO FILL THAT DELTA OF AUTHORIZATIONS VERSUS ASSIGNED AT TAKING OUT THE CADETS? WELL, THI THIS IS JUST, THIS IS JUST VACANCIES RIGHT HERE. SO WE HAD 174 VACANCIES IN THE DEPARTMENT, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. WE HAVE 129 RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROJECTING TO WORK, BUT THAT'S WITH THE CADETS FIGURED IN THAT NUMBER. RIGHT? RIGHT. SO IF YOU TAKE THE CADETS OUT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT HERE, ERIC. YEAH. WE'RE, WE'RE NOT REALLY SHOWING THE, TO ME, WE'RE NOT SHOWING THE, THE CORRECT DATA HERE, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AUTHORIZATIONS AND THEY'RE NOT FILLED UNTIL THE CADETS GET OUTTA THAT TRAINING CYCLE. WELL, I THINK WE'D HAVE TO TAKE THIS CHART AND EXTEND OUT THE TIMELINE ON THE BOTTOM BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE OF THE TRAINING PERIOD, YOU HAVE THE SIX MONTH, UM, THE, THE, THE DATES ON THE BOTTOM ARE MEASURING WHEN THE POSITION IS FILLED. WE'D NEED TO SLIDE THAT OUT AND SET IT WITH, UM, ONCE THEY GET DONE WITH THEIR FIELD TRAINING. OKAY. WELL, SO WE CAN, WE CAN WORK ON THAT. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT. WHAT YEAH. WHAT ARE WE REALLY LOOKING AT HERE, TAKING THE CADETS OUT OF, UM, F T O TRAINING. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO WE'VE, WE'VE CAPTURED THE QUESTION, COUNCILMAN. WE'VE GOT FOUR SURE. FOLKS WAITING TO, TO VISIT. SO THAT WILL BE MOVED FORWARD FOR ACTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ERIC. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, THE SLIDE NUMBER 83. YOU TALKED ABOUT, UM, ARRESTS BEING UP 13%. I WANTED TO KNOW ON, [03:20:01] ON THE ARREST GOING UP, HOW MANY, OR DO WE KNOW HOW MANY ARE STILL IN JAIL OFF THE STREET, OR ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS THAT WERE HAVING TO ARREST AGAIN? AND DO WE HAVE AN AMOUNT OF MONEY OF HOW MUCH THAT COSTS THE CITY? SO, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO DETERMINE THAT, PARTICULARLY THE, UM, REPEAT OFFENDER ANALYSIS. UM, HOW MANY TIMES IS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND IT'S ALONG THE SAME LINES AS THE TRAFFIC ACCIDENT QUESTION. THE COUNCILMAN COURAGE ASKED, HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING ON THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS? HOW MANY FOLKS ARE BEING REARRESTED FOR, UH, THE SAME OR DIFFERENT CRIMES AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, UM, THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO RELY UPON THE, UM, UH, THE COUNTY TO HELP AND ASSIST. AND SO WE'RE CONTINUING THAT ENDEAVOR AND, UM, WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH DURING THE SUMMER AND MAYBE BE ABLE TO INCLUDE SOMETHING AS PART OF THE BUDGET THIS, THIS YEAR AS PART OF THE CHIEF'S PRESENTATION TO YOU IN AUGUST, AND GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THAT. AND, AND SO ALONG THAT SAME LINES, WHEN YOU DO THAT, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW OF THOSE THAT THE COST TO THE COURTS WHEN WE'RE PROCESSING, UM, UM, OUR, OUR HOMELESS POPULATION AS WELL, OR THE AGGRESSIVE PANHANDLER, IF WE DO JUST TICKET THEM OR ARREST THEM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE COST IS IN, IN ALL OF THAT. UM, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S HERE OR UNDER OUR AFFORDABLE OR WHERE, BUT THAT'S SOME INFORMATION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, TO KNOW. SO THAT'S ALL I'LL SAY FOR CLARIFICATION QUESTIONS, BUT I HAVE MORE LATER. OKAY. SURE. ERIC. UM, ON ONE OF MARIA'S SLIDES, I THINK 30, IT INDICATED 25 NEW OFFICERS PER YEAR. UM, WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR GRAPH OF, UM, WELL, YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE ONE WITH AUTHORIZED POSITIONS AND, AND THE CURRENT VACANCIES, THE 25 OFFICERS PER YEAR, IF THE COUNCIL CHOOSES TO BUDGET THAT, WOULD IT BE, IT WOULD BE ADD ADDED TO THE TOP LINE, RIGHT? TO THE AUTHORIZED POSITION? YES, SIR. CAN WE MOVE CADETS THROUGH THAT FAST ON A CONTINUING BASIS? WELL, NO, I THINK, I THINK FRANKLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, WE NEED TO FILL WHAT WE HAVE AND WE'VE, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF ACCELERATING THE HIRING AND THE TRAINING IN TERMS OF RAW NUMBERS THIS YEAR. UM, BUT AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE NEED, WE'VE GOT TWO MORE ACADEMY CLASSES, ONE IN JULY, ONE IN SEPTEMBER, AND FOUR NEXT YEAR. AND BETWEEN THOSE SIX OVER THE NEXT 18 MONTHS, UH, WE NEED TO FILL, WE NEED TO FILL THAT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TOP NUMBER AND THE BOTTOM NUMBER. THAT'S GONNA BE THE PRIORITY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SO I WAS ASKED, UM, RECENTLY BY CONSTITUENT, WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE VACANCIES ISSUE MM-HMM. YEARS AGO, HOWEVER LONG AGO, WE HAD ALMOST 200 VACANCIES. UM, WE CAN, I DIDN'T BELABOR THE POINT ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THOSE WERE, THOSE WERE ACTUAL TOTAL VACANCIES, IF THERE WERE SOME CADETS IN THERE THAT WERE ACCOUNTED. BUT THE POINT IS THAT WE, WE WERE SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW OUR AUTHORIZED POSITIONS BY CHOICE OF THE COUNCIL. UM, I, HE ASKED, SO ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT AT THE END OF F Y 18, UM, WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE 200 VACANCIES? AND THE POINT WAS WE WOULD HAVE THOSE POSITIONS FILLED. I SAID, YES, VERY CLOSE. IN TERMS OF, UM, THE CADETS THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH THAT ARE ABOUT TO GET, UH, FULLY AUTHORIZED. UM, IS THAT TRUE? WE'RE PROJECTING, WE'RE PROJECTING BY THE END OF THE YEAR 14, WE'RE GONNA HAVE 99, UH, END OF FY 1899 VACANCIES. OKAY. NOW, THAT DOESN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE CONVERSATION THAT, THAT WE JUST HAD WITH COUNCILMAN, BUT THOSE CADET CLASSES THAT ARE MOVING THROUGH NOW ARE GETTING US TO, UM, BASICALLY FULLY STAFFED. YES. THE FIVE WE HAVE BUDGETED RIGHT NOW WILL GET US TO A PROJECTED 99 AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND THE FOUR THAT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY PLANNING FOR NEXT YEAR WILL GET US CLOSER TO EVEN. OKAY. UM, GOOD. WELL, THAT'S ALBEIT THE, THE, THE CONVERSATION THAT, THAT WE JUST HAD ABOUT LOOKING AT DOING THE TIMELINE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY BASED ON COUNCILMAN. AND SO, JUST TO MAKE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR, I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SHIFT THAT THE CHIEF HAS ORDERED, UH, NEEDED TO FIGHT CRIME IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT GOES UNFILLED? NO, THEY, THAT ZERO, THOSE PATROL DISTRICTS ARE FILLED ON A VOLUNTARY OVERTIME BASIS. AND THE, AND THE NEEDS IN TERMS OF MANPOWER ON THE STREET IS DETERMINED BY THE CHIEF. AND WHAT LEVEL OF CRIME FIGHTING IS NECESSARY FOR THE CITY, THE CHIEF OR THE COMMAND STAFF OR WHOEVER IS APPROPRIATELY, UH, RESPONSIBLE [03:25:01] FOR THE SUBSTATION IF IT HAPPENS TO BE AN OVERNIGHT SHIFT. YES. AND A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME, A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THOSE SHIFTS ARE FILLED. YES. OKAY. UM, THE LAST QUESTION I'D ASK, AND IT'S PRETTY REMARKABLE BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN THE CATEGORY ONE CRIMES COME DOWN QUITE A BIT THIS YEAR, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THE, UH, USE OF FORCE INCIDENTS, UM, GO DOWN AS WELL AS THE CALL FOR, FOR, UH, SERVICE. WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THAT TO? SO WE SPENT SOME TIME THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE STATS. UM, USE OF FORCE, UM, IS, UH, WE'VE SEEN A DOWNWARD TREND SINCE BODY CAMERAS HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY DEPLOYED. UM, THE BODY CAMERAS, UM, UH, AFFECT BEHAVIOR ON BOTH SIDES OF IT. UM, OFFICERS, UH, ANYTIME THEY'VE GOTTA USE ANY SORT OF USE OF FORCE, EVERYTHING, ANYTHING RANGING FROM DEADLY FORCE TO HAVING TO PUT THEIR HANDS ON SOMEONE HAVE GOTTA FILL OUT A REPORT. SO THAT'S HOW WE MEASURE THIS. UM, UM, SO I THINK THE BODY CAMERAS ARE A BIG CONTRIBUTOR, UM, IN TERMS OF THE RESPON THE, UH, DECREASE IN CALLS. UM, I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION, AND I THINK THE CHIEF FIRMLY BELIEVES THIS ALSO, THAT THE, UM, THE PHILOSOPHY BEHIND COMMUNITY POLICING IS THAT YOU ADDRESS PROBLEM AREAS OR, UM, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE CONSISTENTLY, UH, COMMITTING CRIMES. AND, UM, IF YOU DO, IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT, THEN CALLS FOR SERVICE AND CRIMES COME DOWN. IT HAS BEEN, UM, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER THAT, UH, SINCE THE CHIEF'S BEEN HERE, WE'VE NOT HAD A DECREASE IN CALLS FOR SERVICE LIKE THIS. SO, UM, WHETHER OR NOT IT'S A COMBINATION OF FACTORS, THE CRIME RATE IS DOWN, CALLS ARE DOWN, UM, UM, IT'S, IT'S A POSITIVE, UM, UM, DIRECTION AND, AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CONTINUE TO MONITOR IT. BUT I THINK IT ALSO GOES TO THE, THE TARGETING AND THE, UH, DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH THAT, YEAH. REFLECTING ON JEFF'S, SORRY, I'M REFLECTING ON JEFF'S PRESENTATION ABOUT THE SPEAK OUT TOTALS AND, AND HEARING THE OFFICE OF EQUITY IN MY EAR SAYING, DON'T JUST COUNT THE NUMBERS ASKING WHAT THEY REALLY WANT. UH, AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT SPENDING MONEY IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHY ARE WE SPENDING THE MONEY IN THE DEPARTMENTS. AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO WE'D SEE PUBLIC SAFETY AT THE TOP OF THE LIST BECAUSE PEOPLE FELT LIKE THEY WANTED TO BE SAFE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE'VE SEEN THAT DROP OFF. UH, AND I THINK PART, PART OF THAT IS A RESPONSE TO THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING BETTER IN ARRESTING CRIMINALS. UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING BETTER ON SHOWING, UH, UH, PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE IT'S NEEDED THE MOST. AND SO PEOPLE ARE NOT SAYING AS MUCH AS THEY'RE SAYING STREETS AND PARKS AND OTHER THINGS, THAT THEY WANT TO FEEL SAFE AGAIN IN SAN ANTONIO. OF COURSE, IT DOESN'T, UH, IT DOESN'T, UM, EXCUSE ANY CRIME THAT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT, UM, TO SOME EXTENT, WHATEVER WE'RE DOING HERE IS WORKING. UH, AND I COMPLIMENT YOU FOR IT. THANKS, ERIC. COUNCILMAN KURT. THANK YOU. UH, RELATED TO WHAT THE MAYOR JUST TALKED ABOUT ON USE OF FORCE WITHIN, WITHIN THAT, A CATEGORY OF THAT, COULD YOU TELL ME IF OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IS UP OR DOWN OVER THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME? I MAY HAVE THAT COUNCILMAN, IF I DON'T, I WILL. UH, YEAH. IF IT'S UP OR DOWN OR ABOUT THE SAME, I WILL GET THAT FOR YOU. I, I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT FOR YOU, COUNSEL. OKAY. UH, ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, UM, BY LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS YOU'VE PUT UP THERE, IT APPEARS SINCE ABOUT 2011, WE'VE RAISED THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS IN THE POLICE FORCE BY ABOUT 3%, ABOUT 60 SOME, UH, ABOUT 60 SOMETHING NEW POSITIONS, OR 70 NEW POSITIONS. AND, UH, WE'VE ADDED, UH, YOU KNOW, OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, OUT OF, UH, NOW 2,445 POSITIONS. SO IT'S ABOUT A 3% INCREASE. HAVE WE COMPARED THAT TO THE GROWTH IN THE POPULATION OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME? IS, HAS OUR POPULATION ONLY GROWN 3, 4, 5, 6, OR MAYBE EIGHT TO 10% OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME? WHICH LEADS ME TO WONDER, DO WE NEED MORE POLICE OFFICERS MM-HMM. , BECAUSE I HAVE HEARD, EVER SINCE I RAN AND, AND YOU KNOW, HAVE BEEN SERVING THAT SAN ANTONIO HAS THE LOWEST NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS OF A, A MAJOR CITY IN TEXAS, UH, COMPARED TO ITS POPULATION. AND IF OUR POPULATION IS GROWING BY MORE THAN THREE OR FOUR, OR FIVE, OR SIX OR 7%, SHOULDN'T OUR POLICE FORCE AT LEAST TO KEEP UP, EVEN IF WE'RE LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE MM-HMM. ? WELL, UM, HISTORICALLY, UH, WE HAVE NOT TAGGED THAT OFFICER NUMBER TO POPULATION. UM, BUT, UM, I THINK WHAT'S DRIVEN MORE OF THAT ISSUE OR THOSE NUMBERS ARE WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD AFFORD [03:30:01] IT. UH, AND SECONDLY, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE. UM, I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT THERE IS A, AN EFFORT THAT, THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR INNOVATION STAFF IS LOOKING AT, UM, THAT HOPEFULLY WE WILL ROPE WRAP INTO THE AUGUST PRESENTATION THAT THE CHIEF WILL GIVE YOU. BUT IT'S LOOKING AT THREE DIFFERENT AREAS. ONE, ARE WE FILLING OUR VACANCIES AND IS THE ACADEMY, UH, IN TERMS OF STAFFING AND AND INFRASTRUCTURE, DOES IT HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO TRAIN AND PUT OUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE NEED JUST ON ANY GIVEN YEAR? NUMBER TWO, ARE WE USING OUR RESOURCES, RESOURCES BEING OUR OFFICERS, UM, THE, IN THE MOST EFFICIENT MANNER? UM, ARE WE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT, WHEN YOU BREAK IT DOWN BY SUBSTATION, BY SHIFT, AND BY DAY, DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT NUMBER OF OFFICERS WORKING THE RIGHT TIMES A DAY ON THE RIGHT SIZE OF TOWN IN ORDER TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF EQUITY, A LOT OF EQUITY TO THE HOMEOWNERS, THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO THE OFFICERS IN TERMS OF WORKLOAD? AND THEN THE THIRD PART IS HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET THAT DEPARTMENT PREPARED TO GROW? UM, WITH THE, WITH THE INCREASE IN, IN POPULATION, UM, IT, IT HAS NOT NECESSARILY DRIVEN A LOT OF THE DECISIONS GOING PAST. AND, UH, BUT IT IS ONE OF THREE ARMS OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT BECAUSE WE DO NEED, WE DO KNOW THAT, THAT SAN ANTONIO'S GONNA CONTINUE TO GROW. THE CALLS FOR SERVICE AT SOME POINT ARE GONNA START TICKING BACK UP. UM, CRIME IS CYCLICAL AND WE NEED TO BE PREPARED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TURN ON THAT ENGINE, THAT MACHINE AT THE ACADEMY IN A WAY SO THAT WE'VE GOT THE TRAINERS OVER THERE AND THE APPLICANT PROCESSORS TO BE ABLE TO GET US WHERE WE NEED TO GO. ONE THING RELATED TO THAT IS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO RETAIN RETIREES TO TRY AND ENCOURAGE 'EM TO STAY A LITTLE LONGER? SO WE KEEP THAT EXPERIENCE ON THE FORCE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE PENSION SYSTEM, UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, UM, UM, A SWEET SPOT FOR PENSIONERS, UH, IN THE POLICE AND FIRE PENSION SYSTEM WHERE THEY MAX OUT, UM, THEIR PENSION. AND, UM, UM, GENERALLY POLICE OFFICERS, UH, STAY, I'M SORRY, FIREFIGHTERS STAY A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN POLICE OFFICERS. UM, WHAT WE CAN DO, UM, I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAYBE ENHANCE THAT. BUT, UM, OUR, OUR PROJECTED RETIREMENTS THIS YEAR ARE DOWN A LITTLE BIT THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT. UM, THAT'S HELPED US, FRANKLY, KEEP UP WITH, UH, THAT ATTRITION RATE. UM, I SUSPECT THAT WE'LL START TO SEE, UM, MAYBE, UH, ANOTHER ROUND OF RETIREMENTS AFTER OCTOBER 1ST WHEN THE PAY RAISES ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONTRACT GO IN, BECAUSE THAT AFFECTS PENSION ANNUITIES GOING OUT FORWARD. BUT WE PROBABLY NEED TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THINKING ABOUT THAT, COUNCILMAN, BECAUSE THE MILITARY RETAINS PEOPLE THROUGH BONUSES IF THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED IT. YEAH. COULD I JUST ADD TO THAT THEY MAX AT 33 YEARS, VERY FEW STAY BEYOND 33 YEARS. SO WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT TO SEE AND GIVE YOU AN ANALYSIS OF HOW LONG THEY STAY AND WHAT ELSE WE COULD DO. SECONDLY, ON THE POPULATION, WE'LL DO THAT ANALYSIS FOR YOU TO SHOW GROWTH IN POPULATION AS COMPARED TO OFFICERS I'D. I'D ADD THOUGH THAT IT'S A COMBINATION OF FACTORS. WE DO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW MANY OFFICERS PER THOUSAND POPULATION, WE LOOK AT GEOGRAPHY. DIFFERENT CITIES ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY DIFFERENT. FOR EXAMPLE, A MORE DENSELY POPULATED CITY WITH FEWER SQUARE MILES, WE'RE NEARLY 500. UH, SO A CITY THAT MAY BE 400 SQUARE MILES WOULD HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS BECAUSE IT, YOU CAN RESPOND TO CALLS FOR SERVICE QUICKER. SO RESPONSE TIME WOULD BE ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT. SO WE TAKE ALL OF THOSE IN COMBINATION. UH, THE ARREST RATES, THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CRIME, THE TYPE OF CRIME, AND CERTAIN CRIMES TAKE MORE TIME THERE AT THE SCENE THAN OTHERS. ALL OF THOSE FACTORS ARE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION, NOT JUST THE POPULATION GROWTH, BUT, UH, WE'LL DO THAT ANALYSIS FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT. COUNCILMAN PERRY? YES. THANK YOU. UM, IN GETTING TO THAT, I, AND THANK YOU MAYOR ON SLIDE 86. ERIC, IF, UH, YOU CAN GET BACK TO THAT. WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T SHOW THE LAY IN FOR, UH, 2019 OF THE 25 ADDITIONAL OFFICERS, WHICH WOULD GET IT UP TO, WHAT, 24, UH, 70, UM, FOR 2019 ON THIS SLIDE. JUST KEEPING IT WHAT WERE AUTHORIZED IN 2018 WITH THE PROJECTED CLASSES AND EVERYTHING, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA GET UP TO WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY AUTHORIZED. SO SHOULD WE EVEN LAY IN THE 25 ADDITIONAL FOR 2019 WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN GET THERE? [03:35:01] WE CAN'T EVEN GET TO OUR 24 45 NOW. RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT I SAID A SECOND AGO. I THINK THAT, UM, MARIA'S COUNTING THOSE, THAT THOSE 25 OFFICERS BELOW THE LINE, UM, WE NEED TO FILL THE, THE LINE THAT THE SPREADSHEET SHE SHOWED YOU EARLIER. OKAY, WE NEED TO FILL WHAT WE HAVE VACANT FIRST. SO IF WE ADDED 20, IF THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THE BUDGET AND ADDED 25 MORE OFFICERS, WE'RE NOT GONNA FILL 'EM NEXT YEAR. 'CAUSE WE'RE FILLING OUR VACANCIES BASED ON OUR CURRENT PLAN WITH THE FOUR CLASSES WE HAVE SCHEDULED. SO WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THIS CHART, WE DID NOT ASSUME ANY ADDITIONAL OFFICERS, UH, BEYOND THE 24 45 WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. IT, SO AGAIN, MY QUESTION IS, DO WE NEED TO BRING ON 25 ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATIONS WITH CRIME, WITH THE STATISTICS GOING DOWN IN THE POSITIVE TREND? AND WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T SEEM TO FILL THAT BACKLOG. AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I AGREE WITH YOU LOOKING AT, WE'RE AGREEING. WE'RE AGREEING. I AGREE WITH YOU. GREAT. OKAY. WE NEED TO FILL WHAT WE HAVE. YEAH. YEAH. AND THAT'S THE POLICY DIRECTION WE'RE LOOKING FROM THE COUNCIL, UH, TODAY. OKAY. SO THAT WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT TO PLAN TO INCLUDE THOSE OR SHIFT THOSE POTENTIAL RESOURCES INTO OTHER PRIORITIES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. SO I'M, I'M IN VIOLENT AGREEMENT HERE. . OKAY. COUNCIL, THANK YOU. UH, JUST REAL QUICK, I HAD A NOTE THAT, UH, IF ON THE STAFFING PIECES TO HELP BETTER, IF WE COULD, IF YOU COULD LIST IT OUT ALL ENCOMPASSING ON ONE SLIDE, UM, VACANCIES CADETS ATTRITION RATE FOR THOSE CADETS RETIREMENTS EVERY YEAR, AND THEN THE BOTTOM LINE, THEY'RE KIND OF PIECED TOGETHER TO COUNCILMAN PERRY'S POINT THE SLIDE, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS DON'T TELL THE WHOLE PICTURE. UM, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE PERCENTAGE WISE TO END UP AT A BOTTOM NUMBER WHERE YOU SAY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, GONNA BE 19 SHORT AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WHATEVER IT IS. UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, MY, I GUESS I HAVE MORE OF A, JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. IT'S JUST, ARE WE GONNA GET TO A POLICY DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS BECAUSE WE GOT LIKE AN HOUR TO GO. OKAY. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, LIKE, I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HAVING A POLICY DISCUSSION ON SHOULD WE BE PAYING THIS TYPE OF OVERTIME? I MEAN, LIKE THAT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE SPENDING A LOT. THE BIGGER PROBLEM FOR ME IS THE OVERTIME, ERIC. MM-HMM. , THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY WE'RE SPENDING THE HEALTH, THE, THE MENTAL WELFARE OF THESE OFFICERS. UM, THAT'S A MASSIVE POLICY DISCUSSION. AND I'D JUST, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE TO SEE IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE INTO THAT. WE GOT LIKE ONE HOUR. SO I'M NOT TRYING TO, I'M, I FEEL FOR COUNCILMAN SHAW, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING. HE WANTS, HE WANTS TO HOP INTO IT. SO, UH, AND, AND SO RESPECTFULLY, ARE WE THERE YET? OR CONCUR, RIGHT? SO ARE, ARE WE ABLE TO, UH, MOVE OFF OF THE Q AND A PORTION SO THAT WE CAN EXPEDITE OUR MOVE TOWARD THE, THE POLICY CONVERSATION? YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU ERIC. OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, UH, ALEX, IF YOU COULD COME UP AND, AND ADDRESS THE QUESTIONS ON EQUITY. I BELIEVE THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT OPERA OPERATIONALIZING OUR WORK. YES, THANK YOU. AND YOU'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY HEARD EXAMPLES OF IT, UM, TODAY YOU HEARD FROM, UM, JEFF WITH ESSAY SPEAK UP. 'CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE INITIATIVES WE'RE WORKING ON AS THEY WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS. UM, ONE OF THE STEPS IS TO DISAGGREGATE DATA IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHO YOU'RE SERVING, WHO WE NEED TO SERVE, AND UNDERSTANDING THE NEED BETTER. SO HE TALKED ABOUT HOW HIS STRATEGIES CHANGED ONCE HE REALIZED THAT HE WASN'T GETTING RESPONSES FROM CERTAIN AREAS. THAT'S HOW WE OPERATIONALIZE THESE CONCEPTS. UM, MIKE WAS DOING IT ALREADY ALSO WITH STREET MAINTENANCE, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER OF THE INITIATIVES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON AS, UH, EARLY IN THE PROCESS WHEN, WHEN I THINK IT'S STEP THREE, UM, WHEN WE'RE DISAGGREGATING DATA, THAT'S WHERE YOU REALLY GET TO SEE THE PICTURE OF THE NEED AND WHO WE'RE SERVING AND HOW THAT CAN, THAT'S ALL TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE STRATEGIES THAT WE RECOMMEND, ULTIMATELY TOWARDS THE END WHEN WE'RE DEVELOPING THE PLAN. UM, YOU'VE ALSO HEARD EXAMPLES OF IT RECENTLY, NOT TODAY, BUT, UM, THROUGH THE D H S CONSOLIDATED FUNDING R F P, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALSO GOING THROUGH THIS. AND SO THEY DEVELOPED THAT R F P, UM, CUSTOMIZED ON THE NEEDS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED AS THEY WERE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. I GUESS I, WHAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW FAR DO WE HAVE TO GO IN TERMS OF GETTING THROUGH ALL THE DE DEPARTMENTS? I THINK, UM, GOING THROUGH, UM, T C I, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE EARLY ONES THAT, THAT YOU'VE DONE. THAT'S A HUGE PART OF, OF OUR BUDGET, RIGHT? SO, UH, IT MAKES SENSE TO GO THROUGH, THROUGH THAT ONE FIRST, BUT HOW MANY MORE DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH? WE'VE GOT ABOUT 20 MORE DEPARTMENTS THAT HE, WE HAVEN'T WORKED WITH YET. BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, OUR STRATEGY RIGHT NOW IS WORKING WITH THESE DEPARTMENTS BECAUSE OF THE IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE, [03:40:01] KIND OF WALKING THEM FROM BEGINNING TO THE END THROUGH A PROCESS, AND THEN THEY CAN START KIND OF SPREADING THAT ACROSS THEIR ORGANIZATION, UM, ONCE THEY UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT FULLY. FOR EXAMPLE, WE, WE ARE WORKING ON IT WITH STREET MAINTENANCE, BUT YOU'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE THE CONCEPTS AND THE APPROACH ON SIDEWALKS ALSO. SO HELP THE DEPARTMENT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT FROM BEGINNING TO END AND THEN HELP THEM OPERATIONALIZE IT ACROSS THEIR ORGANIZATION. SOME OF THE SMALLER DEPARTMENTS, IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER, IT MIGHT NOT, BUT THAT'S OUR PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR TO WORK WITH MORE OF THOSE 20 THAT WE HAVEN'T QUITE WORKED WITH YET. OKAY. THANK YOU. GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ALEX? GREAT. SO WE'RE READY TO DIVE INTO OUR DISCUSSION. UH, WE NEED A COUPLE OF MINUTES TO GIVE YOU A BREAK AND TO RESET THE, THE ROOM, UH, FOR THAT ACTIVITY. SO I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A 10 MINUTE BREAK. UH, WE'LL PICK IT UP AT 2 0 5 BREAK. I GOTTA ASK ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE THEIR WAY BACK TO THE TABLES. HEY, EVERYBODY BACK? NOT QUITE YET, IS IT? I DON'T KNOW. YOU WANT ME TO GET A FLOOD LIGHT ON IT OR? WELL, IT'S KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, THERE'S LIKE, YEAH, I CAN'T REALLY SEE THAT. WE'RE VERY BACKLIT. CAN YOU SEE IT? CATHERINE . CAN YOU SEE THAT? OKAY. CAN YOU SEE THAT OKAY? OH, YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO GETTING STARTED WITH THE AFTERNOON PORTION. UH, A QUICK PROCESS QUESTION. UM, I KNOW WE HAD LISTED FOUR O'CLOCK ON THE AGENDA IN THE PREVIOUS YEARS THAT I'VE DONE THIS EVENT. WE'VE NEVER ENDED IT FOUR O'CLOCK. SO THAT WAS, UH, VERY OPTIMISTIC. I WOULD ASK THE QUESTION, UH, HOW MANY OF YOU ARE ABLE TO EXTEND THAT TIME? OKAY. RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE THAT IS JUST NOT ABLE TO EXTEND THAT TIME? IF WE WERE TO TAKE IT TO FIVE, WHICH IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ONE? OKAY, GREAT. SO THAT WAY I JUST WANTED TO ALLEVIATE A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE PRESSURE TO COME UP WITH GENIUS IN 20 MINUTES. UM, SO JUST, UH, SOME GROUND RULES FOR, FOR, UH, THIS LATTER PART OF THE CONVERSATION. KEEP IN MIND, ALL WE'RE DOING TODAY IS PROVIDING GUIDANCE TO THE CITY STAFF ON THE ROUGH CUT FRAMING OF THE DRAFT BUDGET THAT THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT TO YOU ON AUGUST 9TH. WE'RE NOT VOTING ON A FINAL BUDGET. UH, WE ARE NOT PURSUING DISTRICT SPECIFIC INITIATIVES, RIGHT? THAT'S THE WHOLE BUDGET PROCESS THAT DOES THAT, RIGHT? THIS IS BASICALLY SAYING, WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE THAT AT A CITYWIDE LEVEL, UH, OUGHT TO BE THE PRIORITY BASED ON THE CONVERSATIONS THAT, THAT WE'VE HAD TODAY. YOU KNOW, BASED ON KIND OF A, A, A NON-SCIENTIFIC HEAT MAP OF WHERE THE MOST QUESTIONS WERE KIND OF CAPTURED, THE, THE BIG CATEGORIES, CATEGORIES THAT YOU HAD THE MOST QUESTIONS ABOUT. NOW, AS I SAID EARLIER, YOU KNOW, THESE LARGELY TRACK WITH WHAT YOU TOLD ME DURING THE INTERVIEWS, THOUGH. YOU DIDN'T NECESSARILY ALL HAVE AGREEMENT ABOUT WHICH WAY TO GO ON THIS, RIGHT? SO, TO SAY THAT, UH, THAT THERE'S AGREEMENT THAT THESE ARE THE CRITICAL ISSUES THAT YOU AS COUNCIL NEED TO LOOK AT FOR 2019 IS THE NOT THE SAME AS SAYING, AND THEREFORE, CITY STAFF, PLEASE, UH, DEVELOP SOME OPTIONS IN THIS DIRECTION. AND SO, BASED ON THAT, UM, AGAIN, THE, THE THING THAT I'M LOOKING FOR AS YOUR FACILITATOR IS WHERE IS THERE CRITICAL MASS BEHIND A PARTICULAR [03:45:01] DIRECTION IN ORDER TO GUIDE THE CITY STAFF IN SCOPING THAT FOR YOU TO PRESENT YOU THAT IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, YOU'RE NOT APPROVING ANYTHING, YOU'RE NOT AGREEING TO ANYTHING ESSENTIALLY. UH, LIKE AN ARCHITECT AFTER THE FIRST MEETING, WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND SAY, WELL, THESE ARE REALLY THE THINGS THAT I'M INTERESTED IN. COME UP WITH SOMETHING. ALRIGHT? SO WHAT I'M GONNA BE LOOKING FOR FROM YOU, UH, AS, AS WE TAKE ON DIFFERENT KIND OF PROPOSALS AND OPTIONS THAT, THAT YOU WOULD PUT ON THE TABLE IN THE COURSE OF THE NEXT COUPLE OF HOURS IS WHERE IS THERE CRITICAL MASS? NOW BEING VERY FRANK, UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A PROCESS OF, OF FINDING WHERE THAT CENTER OF GRAVITY IS IN ORDER TO GIVE THAT GUIDANCE TO CITY, CITY STAFF TO BEGIN SCOPING THAT, UH, IF YOU ARE ALONE IN THE WILDERNESS, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON. UH, BECAUSE THAT SAYS THERE'S NO CRITICAL MASS BEHIND IT. ALL RIGHT? UH, SO JUST KEEP THAT IN INTO ACCOUNT. AND THIS IN NO WAY CURTAILS YOUR ABILITY AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO CONTINUE TO, TO PUSH AND FIGHT AND ADVOCATE, UH, FOR INDIVIDUAL INITIATIVES THAT YOU FIND ESSENTIAL DURING THE COURSE OF THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? OKAY. SO, UH, I WANNA THANK EVERYBODY FOR, UH, LARGELY STICKING TO THE THREE MINUTES. GOOD JOB. LET'S KEEP DOING THAT. UH, AND THEN THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE, THE, UH, AD HOMINEM DEFENSE, I WILL JUMP AND MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE CONVERSATION ON ISSUES AND IDEAS. SOUND GOOD? SO, UH, AS WE'VE ALWAYS DONE, I LOOK TO THE MAYOR TO KINDA GIVE US OUR OPENING THOUGHT. OKAY. WELL, THANK YOU FRANCISCO, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO A GREAT CONVERSATION HERE. I, I'LL I KIND OF START WHERE, UH, WE STARTED AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR OR THE TOP OF THE MORNING, WHICH IS THAT, UM, I THINK THAT PETER AND HIS PRESENTATION GAVE A REALLY CLEAR CASE AS TO WHY, UH, HOUSING NEEDS TO BE A POLICY PRIORITY OF THE CITY MOVING INTO THE FY 19 AND SUBSEQUENT BUDGET YEARS. UM, THE GROWTH OF THE CITY, UH, AS PAINTED BY THE DEMOGRAPHERS PRETTY STARK. UH, WE HAVE 66 PEOPLE MOVING TO OUR CITY OR BEING BORN IN OUR CITY EVERY SINGLE DAY. UH, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AS IT RELATES TO SA TOMORROW. AND THE DATA THAT'S BEING PRESENTED BY THE TASK FORCE, UH, IS, UH, I WOULD SAY VERY DISCONCERTING IN THE SENSE THAT A GROWING PORTION OF OUR COMMUNITY IS INCREASINGLY COST BURDENED BY HOUSING. UM, A NUMBER OF YOU TALKED ABOUT DIFFERENT, UH, HYPOTHESES AS IT RELATES TO WHAT MIGHT BE CAUSING THAT REGULATORY, UH, BURDENS, REGULATORY COSTS, UM, THE LACK OF AVAILABLE CAPITAL FOR THE LACK OF ACCESS TO MORTGAGES, THE LACK OF PRODUCTION IN THE INNER, UH, IN THE CITY IN GENERAL, UH, TO, UH, EVEN THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN, WHICH WE ARE ALMOST, WELL LARGELY NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR. SO, UM, I THINK ALL OF THOSE ISSUES, AS WAS INDICATED, ARE BEING DISCUSSED BY THE HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE, WHICH WE ARE GOING TO GET A VERY CLEAR REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION, SET OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, UM, MY HOPE IS THAT AS A BODY, WE WOULD GIVE DIRECTION TO THE COUNCIL, UH, OF THE COUNCIL, TO THE, TO THE STAFF, UH, TO ABSORB THAT REPORT WHEN IT'S AVAILABLE, UH, WORK WITH THE TASK FORCE AND THE, THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO, UH, COME UP WITH A PLAN, A BUSINESS PLAN, UH, TO BRING TO US FOR, UH, DIGESTION AND, AND ULTIMATELY ACTION, UH, AS A CITY COUNCIL. SO THE, THE FIRST OFFER IS RECOMMENDING THAT WE DEVELOP SCENARIOS FOR ADOPTING TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS. SO I OPEN IT TO THE FLOOR AND YOUR, YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS, COUNCILMAN ON JUST THIS ONE? CORRECT? YEAH, ON JUST THIS ONE. UM, I THINK, YES, AS PART I WOULD AGREE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS. ONE OF MY CONCERNS THOUGH, OR POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, CONCERN THAT MOVING FORWARD IS AS THIS FRAMEWORK COMES FORWARD TO US, THAT IT IS STILL A FRAMEWORK ONLY, AND THAT THE FINAL SAY WOULD STILL STAND IN THE, THE COUNCIL, THE CITY COUNCIL. SO ALTHOUGH IF WE DO HAVE, UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND STAFF MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF BUDGET ACTION PLAN, THAT THAT IS STILL GOING TO HAVE FINAL SAY BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, THAT WOULD BE MY, MY RECOMMENDATION AND MY HOPE ON THIS, ON THE HOUSING RECOMMENDATIONS MOVING FORWARD. AND AS PART OF THIS, I KNOW I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE, UM, THE FRAMEWORK, AND I'M HOPING, AND IF IT'S, I'M SAYING THIS NOW BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT A PART OF IT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A PART OF IT. MM-HMM. , WHEN LOOKING AT THE AFFORDABILITY AND THE HOME OWNERSHIP ASPECT [03:50:01] IS WHAT CAN WE DO WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, PROVIDING, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT NEIGHBORHOOD OR FAIR HOUSING AND WILLS THAT PEOPLE IN CERTAIN COMMUNITY AREAS ARE HIGH VULNERABLE AREAS THAT THEY HAVE, UM, THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING AS A CITY TO WORK IN PARTNERSHIP, THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE THEIR WILLS TAKEN CARE OF TO SEE WHO THESE HOUSES AND LEGACY HOMES GO TO. SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. SO COULD YOU CLARIFY COUNCILMAN WHAT THE, WHAT THE PROPOSITION YOU'RE ASSERTING? SO, UM, I'M, I'M, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? WHAT, WHAT WERE YOU ASKING FOR? WHAT WERE YOU RECOMMENDING? SO I WAS RECOMMENDING THAT WHATEVER COMES FORWARD, THAT IT STILL HAS TO HAVE CITY COUNCIL FINAL SAY. YES. THAT PART I GOT. OKAY. AND THEN ALSO WHEN IT, THAT AS PART OF THESE FRAMEWORKS THAT A CONVERSATION ABOUT WILLS AND HELPING THE COMMUNITY, UM, DE HAVE WILLS OR SEE WHO OR WHO DOES NOT HAVE WILLS IS TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION FOR SOME STABILITY. SO PROVIDING SOME COMMUNITY ASSISTANCE YES. AROUND KIND OF ESTATE TITLE YES. MANAGEMENT. OKAY. OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE? COUNCIL, THANK YOU, FRANCISCO. UM, I DO THINK HOUSING HOUSING IS A PRIORITY AS WELL, AND I AGREE WITH THE MAYOR AND LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HOUSING TASK FORCE. I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD AND, AND IT'S DATA DRIVEN. UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, A LOT OF THINGS AS, AS WAS MENTIONED WITH REGARDS TO HOME OWNERSHIP. SO THE ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE, WE, WE HEARD IT TODAY IS THAT THE OTHER HALF OF THIS IS NOT JUST HOME OWNERSHIP, IT'S RENTERS. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, WITH REGARDS TO HOUSING THAT WE, WE IMPLEMENT SOMETHING THAT ALSO LOOKS AT RENTER'S RIGHTS, UH, MAYBE SOME EMERGENCY RENTAL ASSISTANCE THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY. UM, AND THIS REALLY TIES INTO THIS WHOLE IDEA OF, OF PROPERTY VALUATION AND WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN OCCURRING THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. EVERY TIME WE IMPROVE A STREET OR A SIDEWALK OR, UH, CLEAN UP AN AREA, WE, WE, WE CREATE VALUE AND THAT VALUE IS IMPACTING CERTAIN AREAS. SO THOSE KIND OF THINGS NEED TO BE PART OF THE CALCULUS WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CREATE A, A, A BROADER IMPACT. AND SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT, AT RENTERS AND, AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE. I ALSO THINK WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT OUR BUILDING CODES. UH, AS WAS MENTIONED, THE WAY WE BUILD DOES IMPACT HOW WE HAVE TO, OR, OR WHAT THE PRODUCT ENDS UP COSTING. AND SO WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT A LOT OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, I THINK THE, THE HOUSING TASK FORCE HAS LOOKED AT A LOT OF THE EXISTING PROGRAMS AND SYSTEMS, AND I'M EXCITED TO TO HEAR, UH, THEIR VALUATION OF THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK IS GONNA BE HELPFUL IN KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES. UM, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'VE GOT. SO ADDING TO THAT OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB? NO, NO, IT'S ROOF PROGRAM ROOF. IT'S A SPECIFIC UNDER ONE, UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM. THANK YOU. I TOO AGREE WITH THE MAYOR THAT IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, UH, AND I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FOLLOW IT ALONG. THE ONE THING I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT COMES OUT OF THAT, AND IT GOES ALONG WITH, UH, WHAT COUNCILWOMAN JUST SAID, THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE, UH, A LOT OF INPUT INTO WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT IS GONNA BE. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT FINAL PRODUCT DOES NOT REDUCE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE CITY. AND I THINK WHAT'S LEADING UP TO REDUCING THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS GENTRIFICATION, BUYING HOMES THAT MAY NEED SOME REPAIR, AND THEN PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO 'EM, MAKING 'EM WAY TOO EXPENSIVE FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT LIVE IN THE AREA AND THE TYPE TWO HOUSING SHORT-TERM RENTALS, WHICH ARE TAKING LITERALLY HOUSES OUT OF THE AFFORDABLE MARKET. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE ADDRESS WHEN WE GET TO HOUSING. SO WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO HAVE, UH, MAKE SURE WE DON'T REDUCE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH GENTRIFICATION AND SHORT-TERM RENTALS? REDUCE THE, WE DON'T WANNA REDUCE THE HOUSING STOCK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL COME, [03:55:01] WOULD BE, I GUESS, TELL ME WHAT WOULD BE THE CITY'S ROLE IN THAT? RIGHT. LIKE, WE'RE TO MAKE SURE THE PLAN DOES NOT ALLOW FOR TOO MUCH GENTRIFICATION OR SHORT-TERM RENTALS THAT REDUCE THE HOUSING STOCK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, AL . ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FRANCISCO. UM, REGARDING, UH, HOUSING, UM, EXTREMELY THRILLED THAT WE HAVE A TASK FORCE WORKING ON IT THAT THEY'VE ASSEMBLED. UM, THESE ARE MY SO-CALLED REP PREPARED REMARKS. FRANCISCO, YOU TOLD US NOT TO SAY EARLIER. I'LL START THE TIME. , THANK YOU. THAT, UM, THAT THE TASK FORCE ASSEMBLED, UH, YOU KNOW, DOZENS OF, OF EXPERTS AND THEY'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND DEDICATED A LOT OF TIME, UH, MORE TIME I THINK, THAN AT LEAST THAN I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO AS A, AS A SINGLE PERSON. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. UM, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE COUNCILWOMAN THAT OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA BLESS THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS IF THEY MOVE FORWARD. UM, SO I, I WANNA SEE THOSE. BUT, UH, SOME THINGS I'D LIKE TO SEE AMONG THOSE ARE, UM, A DISPLACEMENT OR ANTI DISPLACEMENT POLICY WHEN PEOPLE DO, UM, ARE FOR SOME REASON HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THEIR HOME. WHAT, UH, WHAT OPTIONS ARE THERE FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY IF THAT DISPLACEMENT IS LINKED TO ANY CITY, UH, ORIGINATED IN INVESTMENTS. I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T LEAVE PEOPLE HOMELESS, UM, BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU KNOW, AND A POSSIBLE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK IS, IS REALLY IMPORTANT IS, UM, EDUCATION ON WHAT WE MEAN BY A COMPREHENSIVE EDUCATION COMMUNITY-WIDE REGARDING WHAT WE MEAN ABOUT BY AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING. UM, THERE'S, UH, THERE'S A BIG FEAR AMONG, UH, SOME COMMUNITIES BECAUSE IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, WITH CRIME OR, YOU KNOW, UN UNDESIRABLE NEIGHBORS. AND I, I THINK IT'S REALLY UP TO US TO, TO FIND A WAY TO SHARE THE FACTS THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S PEOPLE LIKE, LIKE US AT, AT THE MEDIAN INCOME OR JUST BELOW WHO ARE HAVING A HARD FOR THOSE OF US WHO ONLY WORK FOR COUNCIL , WHO, UH, UH, HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING A, AN AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE. SO HOW DO WE TELL THAT STORY? AND I, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY IF WE'RE EVER GOING TO MEET THESE GOALS, UM, WITH, WITH COMMUNITY SUPPORT. UM, THAT BECAUSE OUR RENTAL PROPORTION OF INHABITANTS IS GROWING. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, UM, THAT WE LOOK INTO SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT THE COUNCILMAN, UH, MADE. UH, ONE OF THE OTHER BIG THINGS THAT THAT COMES UP IS OWNER OCCUPIED REHABILITATION OF HOMES. AND PHILOSOPHICALLY I UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE INCENTIVIZE NEW HOMES WITH TAX ABATEMENTS, THAT MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO FOR EXISTING HOMES. UM, BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY HARD TO MAKE PROGRESS, UM, HOME BY HOME. UH, I GUESS IT TAKES A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT? TO, TO REHAB, TO REHAB A HOME. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT COULD BE 10,000, IT COULD BE 30,000. OKAY. YOU'RE, I'M, I'M WRAPPING IT UP. SO WHAT I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE IS SOME KIND OF FINANCING TOOL THAT WE COULD USE, UH, FOR THAT. UM, SO, SO NOT JUST, UM, STRAIGHT UP, UH, SUBSIDIES, BUT I THINK IF WE HAD SOME KIND OF FINANCING MECHANISM, WE COULD POSSIBLY GO FURTHER FOR THAT. SO. GREAT. I'LL STOP THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT, THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AFTERNOON, WHICH IS BUDGET PRIORITIES. I THINK SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE GO MORE INTO A, A POLICY ON ORDINANCES IN TERMS OF USING DOLLARS, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE HOUSING INITIATIVE. BUT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT GENTRIFICATION OR START TALKING ABOUT, UM, PUSHING PEOPLE OUTTA THEIR HOMES OR UNOCCUPIED REHAB, WE'RE GETTING INTO A, A, A DIFFERENT VENUE PER SE. UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT OUR HOUSING STOCK, WE NEED TO PUT MORE DOLLARS IN THAT HOUSING STOCK AS A CITY. BUT THEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE PUT MORE INTO OWNER OCCUPIED REHAB, THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO INCREASE TAXES, SO THEN WE'RE BACK AT SQUARE ONE WITH SOME COMMUNITIES ALSO, LIKE COUNCIL VINNO STATED WITH STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. AS WE CONTINUE TO IMPROVE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, THAT TOO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO INCREASE THE, THE, THE APPRAISAL VALUE AND HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HURT TAXABLE COMMUNITIES. SO WE HAVE TO THINK OF THE LONG-TERM [04:00:01] EFFECTS OF PUTTING THESE DOLLARS INTO PLAY. UM, I AGREE WITH COUNCILWOMAN, UH, AS IN AGREE WITH THE CITY CHARTER BECAUSE THIS CAN'T PASS WITHOUT OUR, OUR BLESSING. SO WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THAT AT STAKE IN, IN THIS DISCUSSION. BUT IN, IN TERMS OF PUTTING DOLLARS, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR HOUSING FRAMEWORK IS SET IN A, IN A PARTICULAR WAY THAT UTILIZES DOLLARS EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY, THAT DOESN'T PUSH OUT INDIVIDUALS, BUT GIVE PEOPLE AN AFFORDABLE PLACE TO LIVE. SO I, I WILL SUPPORT, UH, UM, PUTTING MORE DOLLARS INTO A, A HOUSING INITIATIVE. OKAY. SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'D ASK THE QUESTION. MOST OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD HAS, HAS BEEN KIND OF DETAILS ON BY WHAT METHOD, BUT IT DOES FEEL LIKE THERE'S A WEIGHT OF SUPPORT AROUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO, DOES ANYONE HAVE SOMETHING THEY'D LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE CONVERSATION THAT HASN'T BEEN SAID YET? COUNCILMAN? UH, I, I JUST, UH, WANNA JUST PUT ON THE TABLE UNDERSTANDING THAT OBVIOUSLY IN THE MINORITY ON THIS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, FIRST OF ALL, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM THE HOUSING POLICY TASK FORCE ARE JUST THAT RECOMMENDATIONS. I, YOU KNOW, I HOPE WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING SOMETHING SO THAT WE CAN APPROVE WHATEVER THEY SEND OUR WAY. UH, THE FINAL POLICY, IT ENDS HERE AND WE MAKE THE CALL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ELECTED TO DO. UM, AND I FEAR, YOU KNOW, THE ABDICATION OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO ALL THESE TASK FORCES WHO ARE THEN GETTING A RUBBER STAMP WHEN THEY COME TO THE COUNCIL. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS AND THERE ARE NO MORE THAN THAT. SKILLED PEOPLE, HARD WORKERS. I'M NOT SAYING ANY OF THAT, BUT ULTIMATELY THE DECISION RESTS HERE. AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST WANNA PUT ON THE TABLE ABOUT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY. UH, HOUSING IS AN ISSUE, UH, BUT I TEND TO BELIEVE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION, WE NEED TO SERIOUSLY LOOK AT FROM A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, THE DAMAGE WE'VE DONE AS A COMMUNITY IN FEES AND REGULATIONS AND THE COSTS AND THE PROBLEMS WE'VE CAUSED, AND HOW WE CAN ELIMINATE THOSE. SO, AS OPPOSED TO EXPECTING, 'CAUSE WE DON'T, HERE'S THE, THE KIND OF THE CRAZY PART ABOUT THIS THING. WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT'S COMING OUR WAY. AND HERE WE ARE DEBATING WHAT WE'RE GONNA, IT'S RIDICULOUS. I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S COMING, AND IT COULD BE MASSIVE. I HEAR THINGS AS FAR AS THEY'RE WANTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO FIX THIS HOUSING PROBLEM. I THINK THE FIRST PIECE THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS WHAT ARE WE DOING WITHOUT RAISING ADDITIONAL REVENUE, SPENDING MORE MONEY, AND THE CITY AUGMENTING PEOPLE'S LIVES LIKE THAT. WHAT ARE THINGS WE CAN DO WHERE WE REMOVE THE BARRIERS? WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS WE'RE PUTTING IN PLACE AS A, AS A, AS A ORGANIZATION, AS A GOVERNMENT THAT'S IMPEDING PROGRESS. THAT'S WHERE WE START. WE START WITH SAYING WHAT FEES, WHAT REGULATIONS, WHAT CAN WE REDUCE TO ENCOURAGE THAT GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED TO RAISING REVENUE FUNDS AND FEES, AND US TURNING INTO A MINI LENDER FOR RESIDENTS ACROSS THE COMMUNITY. I WANT HOUSING STOCK TO BE IMPROVED. ALL THOSE THINGS MAKE SENSE. WE WANT THAT. BUT THIS IS A FREE MARKET ECONOMY TYPE SET. WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE BARRIERS, TO ENCOURAGE THOSE WHO DO THE JOB BEST, TO DO THE JOB. THAT'S THE BUSINESS AND THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND ALL THOSE FOLKS. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL, HAVE THAT REAL SOLID POLICY DOC. JUST WANNA PUT IT ON A TABLE, IS THAT OUR ROLE? A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE BEING MENTIONED TO START TO MOVE INTO PROPERTY RIGHTS AND TELLING PEOPLE HOW THEY CAN LAND, WHERE THEY CAN LAND, WHERE IT JUST GETS WAY TO BE WAY TOO MUCH. SO MY, MY ASK WOULD BE IN, IN A RELATIVE MINORITY, CONSIDERING IT'S HOW I'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM MULTIPLE FOLKS HERE, BUT MY ASK WOULD BE, NUMBER ONE, AND LET'S PUT IT OUT THERE. THIS, THESE ARE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS PERIOD. UM, AND, AND WE'VE TASK FORCE IT. UH, GREAT. BUT WE MAKE THE DECISION. PART TWO IS WE START WITH WHAT WE CAN REDUCE. WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND ADDITIONAL DOLLARS IN THIS UNTIL WE'VE ASSURED OURSELVES THAT WE'VE REMOVED EVERY BARRIER TO LET THAT COMMUNITY, THE DEVELOPING COMMUNITY, THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, BUILD THOSE THINGS IN THAT ENVIRONMENT OF SUCCESS. THE CITY'S MORE OF A HINDRANCE THAN THEY ARE, UH, A HELP IN THIS SITUATION WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING. I JUST HOPE WE RECOGNIZE THAT AND WE HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HAVE THAT DEBATE FURTHER AS WE GO THROUGH IT. GREAT. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT CAPTURES THE ESSENCE THAT EXAMINE REGULATORY I BE RELIEF FOR NEW HOUSING AND CONSTRUCTION, EXAMINE REGULATORY RELIEF? WELL, I THINK WHAT WE CAPTURE IT IS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE EXAMINE WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE AND WHAT BARRIERS CAN WE REMOVE IN OUR CURRENT FEES AND DEVELOPMENT RESTRICTIONS BEFORE WE RAISE FUNDS, FEES, AND CREATE ALL THESE NEW, THESE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS TO SUBSIDIZE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SOCIAL CHANGE AGENDAS. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THEM, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THE THINGS FIRST, THAT WE'RE REMOVING THOSE BARRIERS. SO IT'S NOT JUST REGULATORY, IT'S FEES, IT'S DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING THAT'S SLOWING DOWN THE PROGRESS. 'CAUSE IT'S IT'S HAND IN HAND, RIGHT? WE'RE ASKING THE PEOPLE TO BUILD MORE ROOFTOPS, BUT THE TRUTH IS THEY DON'T WANNA BUILD 'EM IN BEX COUNTY. WHY? BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH HASSLE TO DEAL WITH. THEY DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH US. IT'S NOT SAN ANTONIO, IT'S US. IT'S OUR FEES. IT'S THE MACHINE THEY HATE. SO THAT, THAT'S WHERE I'M TRYING TO GO WITH IT. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN . THANK YOU, UH, FRANCISCO. UH, BECAUSE I DO SENSE SOME SUPPORT FOR THE, UM, FOR THE HOUSING. UM, LIKE YOU SAID, UH, [04:05:01] FOR THE, FOR MOVING FORWARD WITH SOME KIND OF HOUSING POLICY DIRECTION. I THINK WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT THE OTHER ISSUES AS WELL. SO FOR INSTANCE, IF AND WHEN WE DO GO BACK TO TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES AND DEBT FINANCING, HOW DO WE TAILOR SOMETHING IN THAT, UH, IN THAT AREA SO THAT IT DOES HELP US MAKE HOUSING MORE AFFORDABLE FOR THOSE, UH, FOLKS WHO, WHO NEED HELP? UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL. YEAH. UH, FRANCISCO. SO I WOULD SAY JUST ON THE HOUSING PIECE, I WILL, UH, I WILL ECHO WHAT, UH, MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE SAID, AND COLLEEN, THE MAYOR, THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS A HOUSING PROBLEM. AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE FOR IS A, IS A FUTURE CRISIS. UH, AND SO THAT BEING THE CASE, YOU KNOW, WE DE WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DON'T PUT SKIN IN THE GAME, AND THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME THAT WILL INCLUDE FUNDS, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE AS SMARTLY TAILORED TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT COME FROM THIS TASK FORCE. I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BRING SOMETHING TO US THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE, A LOT OF US ARE ASKING, WHERE'S THE BEEF? YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THIS GOING TO GO? AND, AND WHAT THEY'VE TOLD US IS THAT THERE IS DATA THAT POINTS TO THE FACT THAT CURRENTLY WE HAVE RENTERS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE HAVE FOLKS WHO, UH, WITHIN 30 DAYS EVICTION NOTICE MAY NOT HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE, UH, THE COST OF THEIR UNIT WILL GO UP. SO, I, I WANNA JUST DOUBLE DOWN ON THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. WE, WE CAN'T PUT THIS OFF TILL LATER BECAUSE IT WILL COST US MORE, UH, LATER. SO I'LL JUST MAKE THOSE COMMENTS ON HOUSING. GREAT. YEAH. SO, SO JUMPING, UH, IN AND, AND DOVETAILING ON WHAT COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, UH, ADDED JUST NOW, I, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP IN MIND THAT AS MUCH AS WE WANT THERE TO BE A SOLUTION TO THIS HOUSING, YOU KNOW, UH, DEFICIT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND, YOU KNOW, A SOLUTION TO THIS INCREASINGLY URGENT PROBLEM, UM, THE ONES WHO WILL BE SOLVING THE PROBLEM AREN'T POLICY MAKERS. WE CAN WRITE AS MANY INTERESTING POLICIES AS WE WANT ON THIS BOARD AND ON PIECES OF PAPER, AND WE CAN HAVE ALL THE MEETINGS WE WANT, BUT UNLESS YOU ACTUALLY GET FOR-PROFIT DEVELOPERS WALKING IN HERE TO WANT TO BUILD THESE THINGS, AIN'T NOTHING GETTING BUILT. RIGHT? UM, AND WHEN THEY BUILD, THAT NEEDS TO PENCIL OUT. IN OTHER WORDS, THAT MATHEMATICS THAT THEY DO, 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT NON-PROFITS, RIGHT? THEY'RE FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES THAT NEEDS TO PENCIL OUT. AND SO, ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT YOU WERE SAYING IS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WAYS ASIDE JUST FROM GIVING THEM CASH OR DISCOUNTS ON THEIR TAXES, RIGHT? BY WAY OF TAX INCENTIVES. BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE PANOPLY OF POSSIBILITIES OUT THERE THAT, UM, THAT WE CAN USE, RIGHT? TO, UH, INCENTIVIZE THAT, RIGHT? NOT THAT'S NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, ALL OF US HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ULTIMATELY GONNA BUILD THIS OUT, RIGHT? WHO ARE TELLING US THAT THEY FIND THAT THE CURRENT ENVIRONMENT, UH, WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THAT THEIR AVALOR TAXES ARE CALCULATED AND THE TREATMENT THAT THEY GET, YOU KNOW, UH, POST OBJECTION IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO THEM WANTING TO BUILD MORE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. TIME AND TIME AGAIN, CHERYL, YOU AND I HAVE HEARD DEVELOPERS TELL US, I REALLY JUST DON'T WANNA A DEVELOP HERE. I, I MEAN, IT'S JUST A PAIN. I, I GET TREATED BETTER IN HARRIS. I GET TREATED BETTER IN WEB COUNTY AND, AND TRAVIS. AND SO I THINK IT IS INCUMBENT UPON US AT LEAST TO UNDERSTAND THAT PROBLEM A LITTLE BETTER, RIGHT? UM, AND ALONG THOSE LINES, MANY OF YOU SIGNED OFF ON A C C R REQUESTING, UH, THAT WE CONDUCT A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY. AND SO I BELIEVE, MAYOR, THAT FOR YOUR COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING STRATEGY, UM, THERE IS THE WORD COMPREHENSIVE, UH, WOULD BE BETRAYED IF WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THAT COMPONENT OF THE TAX POLICY, RIGHT? SO I BELIEVE, I MEAN, THE WORD TAXES IS USED ON THE TWO DOCUMENTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED IN THE PAST 48 HOURS REGARDING THE COMMISSION'S WORK, WHICH IS EXCELLENT WORK, BUT NOT IN THE CONTEXT OF HOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING TAXED. THE ONLY TIME WE EVER HEAR IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT TAX INCENTIVES WE CAN, WE CAN OFFER. AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S KEY. THE SECOND THING IS, UM, TO ECHO, UH, RETO YOUR, YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE SHARED WITH ME, ME, THE BENEFITS OF IT AND THE SUCCESS STORIES, I'M, I'M BEHIND YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT. AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, ADD A, ADD, ADD A ECHO TO THAT, UM, FRANCISCO ON THE BOARD, THAT THAT UNDER ONE ROOF PROGRAM, UH, SEEMS TO BE SOMETHING WORTH PURSUING. AND THEN THE, THE OTHER THING I'LL TELL YOU IS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS, RIGHT? AND WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO SOLVE THEIR PROBLEM, BUT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO EDUCATE THEM AND INFORM THEM. SO I'LL GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES. UM, RENTERS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SHADY LANDLORDS HERE IN TOWN WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE AND MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT AND BURDENSOME TO RENT PROPERTY. UM, THERE'S A LOT OF SHADY BUILDERS. THERE'S A LOT OF SHADY REMODELING, THERE'S A LOT OF SHADY, UH, YOU KNOW, INSURANCE COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, YOU KNOW, POOR PEOPLE, RIGHT? I'M NOT A DOCTOR, AND I'M NOT A COP, SO I CAN'T [04:10:01] TALK TO YOU ABOUT HEALTH POLICY OR SAFETY AND POLICING POLICY, BUT IN MY CAPACITY, AS IN, IN WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING, RIGHT? I REPRESENT HUNDREDS OF POOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL IN YOUR DISTRICTS, RIGHT? WHO'VE BEEN TAKEN ADVANTAGE BY THE FOLKS THAT I JUST LISTED OFF. AND MY KIDS EAT WELL, AND WE MAKE A REALLY NICE LIVING, AND WE SHOULDN'T MAKE A NICE LIVING BECAUSE OF THE VICTIMIZATION OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS. AND SO I THINK WE SET ASIDE LIKE $150,000, UH, COUNCILMAN SALDANA FOR OUR IMMIGRATION, UH, YOU KNOW, ADVOCACY PLAN. I, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS THE RIGHT TIME TO INCLUDE IN THIS HOUSING CONVERSATION AN ADVOCACY, YOU KNOW, COMPONENT TO MAKING SURE THAT POOR PEOPLE, RIGHT? AND SENIORS AND VETERANS WHO SHOWED UP TO TOWN SUDDENLY BECAUSE THEY WERE BUSY DOING OTHER THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT THEY HAVE A TOOL AVAILABLE TO THEM TO GO AND, UH, PROSECUTE THEIR RIGHTS, RIGHT? AND TO STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES. AND SO WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. AND THEN LASTLY, ALL OF US ARE GETTING OLDER AND WE'RE LIVING LONGER. AND SO I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN HAVE A SENIOR, I'M, I'M NOT SURE YOU CAN HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING STRATEGY WITHOUT THERE BEING A VERY SPECIFIC SENIOR LENS. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA WEAR THE EQUITY LENS ON ONE EYE AND THE SENIOR LENS ON THE OTHER . UH, BUT THE, UH, BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT'S EQUITABLE TO, TO REALLY JUST TALK ABOUT LOW INCOME, YOU KNOW, HOUSING NEEDS AND HOUSING DEFICIENCIES, UNLESS WE ALSO PAY ATTENTION TO, YOU KNOW, THE SENIOR, UH, ANGLE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE USED TO DIE WHEN THEY WERE 70 YEARS OLD. NOW THEY'RE DYING WHEN THEY'RE 80 PLUS, 90 YEARS OLD. THOSE PEOPLE STILL CONSUME CITY SERVICES, AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, ABLE-BODIED, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE RELYING ON US MORE AND MORE. UM, AND SO I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, SENIOR CENTERS AND SENIOR SERVICES ARE AN IMPORTANT CONCEPT, BUT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO, WE OUGHT TO BE LOOKING AT AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT OUR POPULATION'S GETTING OLDER, RIGHT? AND SO HOW DO WE POLICE OLDER POPULATIONS? HOW DO OLDER POPULATIONS GET, YOU KNOW, USE SIDEWALKS? HOW DO THEY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PARKS AND ALL THAT? SO, LET'S, UM, I, I, I'M GONNA BE MENTIONING SENIORS THROUGHOUT THE DAY TODAY, BUT THAT, THOSE ARE THE END OF MY COMMENTS. GREAT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. . YEAH, I'LL JUST, UH, I GUESS THAT, WELL, UM, I JUST WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT THIS CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS ILLUSTRATIVE OF WHY THERE IS A, A CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE WITH HOUSING. IN FACT, EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS MENTIONED SO FAR IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION OF A COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING STRATEGY. SO, WITHOUT JUMPING TO THE CONCLUSIONS OF, UH, WHAT MIGHT BE IN THE REPORT, WHICH NONE OF US HAVE SEEN YET, UM, I'M ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL ADDRESS A NUMBER OF THESE ISSUES, INCLUDING THE FACT THAT THE CITY, UH, THE POLICY MAKERS ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ACTUALLY CREATING A HOUSING. WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, FOR THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH IT'S CREATED. UM, BUT, UH, ABSOLUTELY, IN 30 YEARS AGO, I, I WOULD SUGGEST WHEN THE INITIAL HOUSING, THERE WAS AN INITIAL CALL FOR A HOUSING, COMPREHENSIVE HOUSING STRATEGY, WHEN THAT CALL CAME OUT, THERE WERE PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT. IT WAS CONTAINED LARGELY WITHIN THOSE COMMUNITIES. NOW, IT'S NOT JUST AN ISSUE OF GENTRIFICATION AND DISPLACEMENT, IT'S ISSUES OF REGULATION, IT'S ISSUES OF TAXATION, IT'S ISSUES OF AFFORDABILITY AND A SUPPLY OF HOUSING IN GENERAL. SO IT'S BECOME AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ISSUE IN ADDITION TO ISSUES THAT TOUCH JUST ABOUT EVERY PERSON IN THIS COMMUNITY. SO MY HOPE, AGAIN, IS THAT THE REPORT WILL BE WELL RECEIVED, IT WILL GO THROUGH ALL OF THE RINGERS THAT WE WILL PUT IT THROUGH AS POLICY MAKERS, BUT ULTIMATELY, IF THERE ARE BUDGET CONSIDERATIONS, THAT WE WILL TAKE THAT IN THE COURSE OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND, UH, AND WE'LL DELIBERATE ON THAT, THAT REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S SIMPLY FOR, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME THAT WHEN IT'S BROUGHT BACK TO YOU, IT'S WORKED IN. BUT ABSOLUTELY NOTED, IT'LL BE HIGHLIGHTED IN, IN MY REPORT, UH, THAT ANYTHING IS ENTIRELY PENDING. SO, AGAIN, SINCE THERE SEEMS TO BE BROAD AGREEMENT, I'D, I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC. UM, IS THAT ALL RIGHT WITH THE GROUP COUNCIL? I'M GONNA HAVE IN THERE, I WAS GONNA EXPAND ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO, UM, I CAN BE BRIEF OR PLEASE. UH, SO JUST, UH, BECAUSE IT'S, WE ARE, WE ARE RUNNING AS A HOUSING PILOT IN DISTRICT FIVE. UH, AND MANY OF THE ISSUES THAT ARE PRESENTED HERE BY MY COLLEAGUES ARE, WE'RE ALSO RUNNING IN THE DISTRICT FIVE HOUSING CENTER. WE HAVE A HOUSING CENTER CURRENTLY. UM, AND IT'S BASED ON A LOT OF THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD HERE BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE GETTING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. SO WE'LL HAVE CERTIFIED CONTRACTORS. UH, I THINK THE IDEA THAT THE DEVELOPMENT HAS TO HAPPEN FROM THE LARGE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY IS FLAWED. I THINK WE, BY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES IN THEIR EXISTING HOMES, UH, THAT MAKES THEM THEIR OWN DEVELOPERS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE CAN DO SOME INCENTIVIZING. UH, WE ALSO, UM, IN THE HOUSING CENTER [04:15:01] ARE DEALING WITH, UH, ISSUES OF, OF AGING IN PLACE, BUT REALLY WHAT ROSE TO THE SURFACE, AS WE WERE HAVING OUR HOUSING CENTER, AND WE GOT REPRESENTATION FROM THE CORE, UH, OF THE CITY, UH, ABOUT 410 PEOPLE CAME THE DAY THAT WE HAD THE HOUSING FAIR. AND THE ISSUE THAT ROSE TO THE SURFACE WAS ISSUES WITH, WITH WILLS AND TITLES. AND SO AS WE HELP PEOPLE, UH, RESOLVE, UM, THOSE ISSUES WITH THEIR WILLS AND TITLES, THEN THEY CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO MORE IN THEIR HOMES. SO, UH, WE ARE, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. AND I'LL KNOW THAT I'LL MAKE A REQUEST IN OUR BUDGET TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY FOR THE HOUSING CENTER, SO THAT WE CAN PLAY OUT ACTUALLY IN REAL TIME WHAT THE HOUSING, UH, THE MAYOR'S, UH, HOUSING TASK FORCE WILL GIVE US A PRESENTATION ON. AS WE HEAR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING IT IN REAL TIME. SO I'LL LOOK FORWARD TO PRESENTING THAT INFORMATION TO THE COUNCIL AND, UM, SEEING HOW THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE IMPACTING PEOPLE. THANK YOU. SO WHO WOULD CARE TO ASSERT OUR NEXT PRIORITY, COUNCILMAN? UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TO WITH THE CONVERSATION OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICE. UM, IN PARTICULAR, I THINK, UH, HOW WE STARTED OFF THE DAY IS TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE GROWING NATURE AND THE GROWING POPULATION OF OUR CITY. AND WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT IT A LOT WITH HOUSING, BUT TALKING ABOUT IT AND BEING PROACTIVE IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLI POLICE IN PARTICULAR, UM, AND INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF POLICE. BUT IN PARTICULAR, I KNOW I'VE SHARED THIS WITH YOU ALL TO TRY AND BE PROACTIVE BECAUSE FROM HIGHWAY 92, 35, ALL THE WAY, UM, FROM 35 TO 92, 60 0 4, THERE IS NO POLICE SUBSTATION. AND THAT ENCOMPASSES ALL OF DISTRICT THREE. AND DISTRICT THREE HAS THE SECOND FASTEST GROWING ZIP CODE IN 2017. SO IN ORDER TO BE PROACTIVE, TO CONTINUE TO KEEP UP WITH OUR GROWTH OF OUR CITY, AS WELL AS, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO BE, UM, ASKING SO STAFF TO CONSIDER MOVING FORWARD AND LOOKING AT, UH, A NEW POLICE SUBSTATION TO BE PROACTIVE IN THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. UM, THAT WILL TAKE INCREASED NUMBER OF POLICE OFFICERS TOO. UM, SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL BE LOOKING AT, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION ABOUT EQUITABLE ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES. AND THAT'S OUR GOAL. UM, SO IN ORDER TO BE EQUITABLE AND TO BE PROACTIVE, AND PLUS WE HAVE ONE OF THE NEWLY ANNEXED AREAS IN THE DISTRICT. WE HAVE A NEW FIRE STATION, SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT NEW SUBSTATION. UM, AND ON TOP OF THAT, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY AND INCREASING PUBLIC SAFETY IS LOOKING AT POLICIES AND NOT JUST WITH A, UM, EQUITY AND SENIOR LENS, BUT ALSO WITH, UM, WHAT CAN WE DO WITH, UM, PROTECTING WOMEN AND GIRLS AND, UH, WITH WOMEN HERE AND MAKING POLICY PRIORITIES FOR WOMEN AND GIRLS A PRIORITY HERE IN THIS BUDGET TOO, TALK. SO HOW WOULD THAT GIVE ME LANGUAGE FOR HOW THAT WOULD SHOW UP IN BUDGET? SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, PROTECTION FOR LOOKING FOR PROTECTION OF WOMEN AND GIRLS WHEN IT COMES TO DOMESTIC AND PARTNER VIOLENCE, AND IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY ASPECT, LOOKING AT OUR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. BUT I THINK WE COULD SEE THAT IN MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, BUT IT IS UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF PUBLIC SAFETY IN PARTICULAR. OKAY. SO THAT'S ALL I WILL, UM, SAY NOW. THANK YOU. OTHER THOUGHTS ON PUBLIC SAFETY COUNCIL? THANK YOU. SO FROM A A BUDGET STANDPOINT, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN, UM, I, I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE REGARDING, UM, HAVING MORE VENUES AND MORE ESTABLISHMENTS FOR POLICE OFFICERS, BUT I'M EVEN ENTIT OPEN TO THE IDEA OF HAVING SATELLITE OFFICES SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT. UM, THE NORTHEASTERN SIDE OF, UH, DISTRICT TWO, WE HAVE NO POLICE SUBSTATION WHATSOEVER, AND IT CAUSES A DRAG TIME IN, UH, AND CALL TIME. SO I'M, I'M OPEN TO THE FACT OF HAVING A, A SATELLITE, A SATELLITE SUBSTATION WHERE OFFICERS CAN BE HOUSED, UM, TEMPORARILY OR LONG TERM. ALSO, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE DISTRICT, AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, OR WE'RE HAVING CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS COMMIT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY, BUT THEY'RE MOVING AROUND FROM HOUSE TO HOUSE OR CORNER TO CORNER. UH, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH SS A P D AND GIVE THEM THE, THE FINANCIAL MEANS TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOMETHING THAT ALLOW AN EYE IN THE SKY. UM, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE VALLEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THESE PODS IN PARKING LOTS, AND THEY'RE PORTABLE AND THEY MOVE 'EM [04:20:01] AROUND TO DETER FROM, UH, AUTO THEFT. BUT YOU DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S, THERE'S AN OFFICER IN THERE OR A VIDEO. AND WE USE IT MORE AS A DETER DETERRENT. IT'S NOT GONNA CURE THE CRIME, BUT AT LEAST KNOW THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IT AND GETTING, UH, THESE LARGE POPULATIONS THAT ARE COMMITTING THESE CRIMES TO DISPERSE AND MOVE AROUND AND HOPEFULLY HELP SS A P D OUT. AND THAT IS ALL. OKAY. SO INCREASED INVESTMENT IN REMOTE MONITORING TECHNOLOGY. DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT COUNCILWOMAN? UH, I ALSO WANTED TO, UH, TO WHAT COUNCIL ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY FRANCISCO. THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN ABOUT A SPECIALIZED DEPARTMENT WITHIN SS A P D, WHICH IS THE, UM, MENTAL HEALTH UNIT. AND IF I COULD ASK THE, THE, UH, BUDGET OFFICE WHO IS IN THIS DEPARTMENT TO MAYBE BRING FORWARD A PROPOSAL THAT WE CAN REVIEW THAT LOOKS AT, UH, AN INCREASE IN WHETHER IT'S THE MANPOWER OR THE, THE RESOURCES THAT THAT UNIT NEEDS. UM, I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THROUGH THE EXPERIENCE OF RIDING ALONG WITH THEM, SEEING THEIR CASELOADS, UH, THAT THEY ARE PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST INTIMATE, UM, MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS IN OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. UH, THEY'RE NOT WAITING FOR CASES TO COME TO THEM. UM, THEY'RE OUT THERE PATROLLING, AND I THINK I WANTED TO JUST ASK FOR A PROPOSAL THAT COMES TO US THAT WE CAN REVIEW, UH, TO INCREASE THEIR, THEIR, THEIR NETWORK, THEIR RESOURCES, UH, THE TYPE OF NET, THE WEB, WEB THAT THEY CAN CAST, UH, TO TRY TO CAPTURE. AND THIS IS IN THIS SPACE, THAT'S ALL. MR. MAYOR? NO, I'LL JUST, UH, SECOND THAT AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH THE STATEMENTS ON THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT. OKAY. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON PUBLIC SAFETY, COUNCILMAN. UM, AND I WOULD ALSO, UH, SUPPORT THE EFFORTS ON, ON THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT, EXPANDING THAT AND PROVIDING MORE RESOURCES. UM, THEY'VE SHOWN TO BE VERY EFFECTIVE. UH, BUT WE NEED, WE NEED MORE. AND, UM, SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. UH, ALSO WITH REGARDS TO, TO POTENTIAL RESOURCES AND MOBILITY, UH, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, SOME, SOME OF THE REQUESTS FOR, FOR CERTAIN EQUIPMENT THAT, THAT ALLOWS OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND PARKS POLICE TO BE MORE MOBILE AND HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THE CREEKWAY, UH, LIKE FOUR WHEELERS AND SO FORTH. SO, UH, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME OF THAT, UH, ALLOWING THEM TO, TO PATROL MORE AREA, UH, AS, AS WE EXPAND A LOT OF THE CITY AREAS IN, IN PARTICULAR, THE, THE CREEKWAY, IT CAN BE FAIRLY DIFFICULT TO, TO HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THOSE AREAS WITHOUT CERTAIN EQUIPMENT AND RESOURCES. ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A SUBSTATION IN DISTRICT ONE, THAT, UH, IT'S MY HOPE THAT IT, IT'S, IT HELPS BECOME MORE OF A COMMUNITY CENTER THAN A, THAN AN ACTUAL POLICE SUBSTATION. JUST A POLICE SUBSTATION THAT IT, THAT IS VERY WELCOMING OF THE COMMUNITY AND HELPS TO PROVIDE, UH, YOU KNOW, A A PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL CONFIDENT, UH, TO VISIT TO, TO PARTAKE IN, IN CITY EVENTS AND SO FORTH. SO, AS, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OTHER, UH, SUBSTATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN, WE CAN MULTIPLY THE, THE, THE ACTUAL USE AND SORT OF ALLOW IT TO, TO HAVE A, A COMMUNITY FUNCTION AS WELL. OKAY, COUNSELOR? YEAH, MY, MY COMMENTS, UH, GO BACK TO MY DISCUSSION WITH ERIC ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD LAY ON ANOTHER 25. WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO HIRE UP TO WHAT OUR AUTHORIZATION LEVEL IS NOW, EVEN THROUGH F Y 19. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENTS AND A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT SUBSTATIONS IN THAT, UM, I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, FUNDED THOSE IN THE BOND PROGRAM IN THE PAST, AND I, I WOULD ASSUME WE'RE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, IS LOOKING FOR THE FUTURE IN A BOND PROGRAM OR NOT FUND OUT OF CYCLE BOND. OKAY. WELL, UM, MINE'S BASICALLY ON THE AUTHORIZATION SIDE AND, UH, TAKING THAT PAUSE UNTIL WE CAN CATCH UP TO WHAT OUR AUTHORIZATION IS NOW. SO WE WANNA HAVE ANY EXCHANGE ON THAT FROM THOSE THAT, THAT SUGGESTED INCREASING THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS. SO WE HAVE A, AN ARGUMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T FILL THE SLOTS THAT WE HAVE. IS THERE MERIT IN PUTTING THAT IN THE BUDGET TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF OFFICERS? ANYONE WANNA RESPOND? [04:25:01] YES, SIR. MAN, I GOTTA PUSH BACK ON YOU A LITTLE BIT HERE. UH, I, I THINK THAT THE FIRST QUESTION IS, EVEN IF THE, THE CURRENT ALLOCATION IS EVEN THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS, WHICH I THINK THE OFFICE OF INNOVATION ACCORDING TO ERIC, IS DOING SOME LEVEL OF RESEARCH THAT MAY TELL US WHETHER OR NOT OUR CURRENT ALLOCATION IS EVEN ACCURATE FOR OUR MUNICIPALITY, RIGHT. FOR THE SIZE OF OUR CITY. I WOULD WAGER IT'S NOT, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO YOU ARE LOOKING AT A SHORTAGE ON A NUMBER THAT IS PROBABLY SHORT TO BEGIN WITH, RIGHT? SO FOR A 24 SOMETHING, SO I WOULD BE, I WOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT THE CYCLICAL NATURE OF CRIME TOO. WE'RE COMING INTO THE SUMMER, CRIME'S GONNA TICK UP, UM, AND WE'RE GONNA FEEL THAT PAIN OVER A SERIES OF MONTHS. SO I THINK YOU PREPARE AND YOU STAFF APPROPRIATELY. THE BIGGER CONCERN I HAVE, I WOULD NEVER SLOW IT DOWN. I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTA FIND A WAY TO RAMP IT UP. I MEAN, AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR MULTIPLE REASONS WHY PEOPLE, PEOPLE DON'T WANNA BE POLICE OFFICERS HERE, AND WE DON'T NEED TO LITIGATE THAT TODAY. BUT WHAT WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT IS, FOR INSTANCE, THE OVERTIME. LIKE, IS THAT A POLICY THAT WE WANNA CONTINUE SLAMMING THOSE TYPES OF OVERTIME HOURS? AND WE COULD SIT HERE AND SAY, OH, POLICE OFFICERS, THEY'D LOVE IT. THEY'LL GO BUY A BOAT. YEAH. I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT THEY DO THE OVERTIME SO THEY DON'T LEAVE A BROTHER OR SISTER ALONE ON THE STREET. THAT'S, THAT'S THE PRIME REASON THEY'RE DOING IT. AND THEY FILL THOSE BOOKS, THEY COME IN, THEY'RE TAKING THOSE EMPTY SLOTS. YEAH, WE CAN SAY, AND SOMEONE SAID THAT WE CAN SAY NOTHING IS LEFT OPEN, RIGHT? THERE ARE NO MISSES ACROSS THE CITY, BUT THAT'S ONLY BECAUSE SOMEONE'S WORKING 60, 70 HOURS A WEEK AND THEY'RE TAKING ON THAT BURDEN FOR NOT THE CAUSE OF THE BIGGER CHECK, BUT FOR THE CAUSE OF THE BROTHER AND SISTER STANDING NEXT TO THEM. SO I WOULD CAUTION THAT THE OVERTIME IS, IS A GLARING ISSUE FOR A POLICY PERSPECTIVE, THAT IT'S OKAY FOR US TO RUN THAT TYPE OF HEARTACHE ON OUR POLICE OFFICERS. SO I WOULD HOPE MAYBE WE CAN FRONT THAT DISCUSSION. LIKE, IS THAT AN, IS IT, ARE WE THAT TYPE OF COMMUNITY WHERE WE'RE, WE'D RATHER WORK THEM HARD AS OPPOSED TO RAMPING UP. NOW THE RAMPING UP IS A LARGER CONVERSATION. THAT'S RECRUITMENT, THAT'S THE STATE OF POLICING. THERE'S SO MUCH THAT GOES INTO THAT. BUT THERE'S ALSO, 'CAUSE I ALSO SIT HERE AND COUNCILMAN SHA AND I TALKED ABOUT FINDING WAYS THAT WE CAN PUT OUR OFFICERS IN POSITIONS THAT THEY LOOK LIKE, THE NEIGHBORHOODS THEY REPRESENT. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE WANT TO DO. WHAT I HEAR PEOPLE ASKING FOR SUBSTATIONS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M HEARING? WE NEED MORE OFFICERS. YOU JUST DON'T MIRACULOUSLY STAND UP A SUBSTATION. THAT'S A NEW CAPTAIN, THAT'S A NEW SAFE UNIT. THOSE ARE NEW OFFICERS. SO IF YOU'RE FEELING LIKE YOU NEED A SUBSTATION, IT'S 'CAUSE YOU'RE FEELING LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE THE SERVICE. SO NUMBER NUMBER ONE, JUST TO WRAP IT UP, IS WE WOULD BE, LET'S EXAMINE THE OVERTIME PIECE AS A POLICY DIRECTIVE. THAT'S OKAY FOR US AS A COMMUNITY. I SAY IT'S NOT BECAUSE IT'S OVERTAXING OUR OFFICERS. EVENTUALLY WE'RE GONNA HIT THE WALL ON THAT. NUMBER TWO, THE POLICY IS WHY DON'T PEOPLE WANT TO COME BE POLICE OFFICERS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? I THINK WE'LL UNCOVER THINGS ABOUT OURSELVES. WE DON'T WANNA SEE, BUT THAT'S OKAY TOO. WE'LL HAVE THE TOUGH DISCUSSIONS. AND THEN THIRD AND FINAL IS, WHAT'S THE REAL NUMBER WE SHOULD HAVE AS A CITY? WHAT'S THE POLICY INITIATIVE? WE RUN LESS ON PURPOSE. WE LEAVE SLOTS OPEN ON PURPOSE. WHY? AND IS THAT THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO TAKE AS A CITY? I'D SAY NO. WE TRY TO RAMP IT UP AND BRING IN AS MANY AS WE CAN. WE DON'T STOP. 'CAUSE THE CRIME'S COMING. IT'S NOT A MATTER OF IF, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHEN. THAT WOULD BE MY PUSHBACK ON YOU, MY FRIEND FROM DISTRICT 10. AGREE. COUNCILMAN BELA. THANK YOU. SO, UH, I, I DO WANNA BRING UP THE ISSUE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. UH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS SOMETHING THAT IMPACTS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US. AND IT'S, UH, UH, WE KNOW THAT CHIEF MCMANUS AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN DOING A LOT OF EXCELLENT WORK ON, UH, ADDRESSING THIS. HOWEVER, WE ALSO KNOW, UM, THAT THE, DESPITE THEIR FANTASTIC WORK ON THIS, THAT THE RATES OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS, UH, IS INCREASING IN SAN ANTONIO. WE ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, IT'S NOT JUST A CRIMINAL LAW AND POLICE ENFORCEMENT ISSUE AND ADDRESSING IT WITH JUST THAT IS MISSING, YOU KNOW, A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT FACETS OF THIS, OF THIS PROBLEM. AND SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S A, IT'S A VETERAN ISSUE, IT'S AN ECONOMIC ISSUE, IT'S A HOMELESSNESS ISSUE, IT'S A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. IT'S A SUBSTANCE ABUSE ISSUE. IT'S AN EDUCATION ISSUE. IT'S AN EQUITY, EQUITY, UH, INABILITY TO ACCESS RESOURCES ISSUE. AND SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I, I DO THINK THAT I, AND BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SEEM TO FIT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THERE, WELL, WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO THESE. I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK THAT WE'RE LIMITED. YEAH. BUT I DO THINK IT'S A PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE AND A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE AND A METRO HEALTH ISSUE. RIGHT. AND SO I, I DO WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN SANDAL AND I GOT TO SIT THROUGH A PRESENTATION, UH, PUT ON BY, UH, DR. BRIDGER AND, AND ERIC WALSH. DR. BRIDGER AND HER TEAM HAVE DEVELOPED A TOOL THAT IS REALLY INFORMING US AS TO WHAT ARE THE HOTSPOTS IN SAN ANTONIO WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING MORE THAN IN OTHERS. COUNCILMAN COURAGE. YOURS IS NOT A HOTSPOT. THAT'S A GOOD THING. COUNCILMAN GROM. YOURS IS, AND COUNCILMAN PERRY, YOURS IS A REALLY ALARMING HOTSPOT FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. UM, COUNTERINTUITIVE. I DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT WAY, BUT IT IS. AND SO, UM, I, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR US TO INVEST SOME OF THESE RESOURCES IN ADDRESSING THIS THING FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, A [04:30:01] GEOGRAPHIC SECTOR, RIGHT? UH, SO THAT WE CAN REALLY FOCUS IN ON NOT JUST POLICING, BUT IN PROVIDING, YOU KNOW, HOLISTIC SERVICES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T. RIGHT? AND WHATEVER DISTRICT THAT'S IN, OR WHATEVER ZONE THAT'S IN, I THINK THAT IT'S INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO SOMETHING. 'CAUSE DOING NOTHING SO FAR IS NOT WORKING. THANK YOU. SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF CRITICAL MASS BEHIND THAT, WE'RE GONNA PUNCH THAT OUT, RIGHT? AS ITS OWN PRIORITY PUSH, PUSH BACK ON , HANG ON A SECOND, COUNCILOR. UH, YES. JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, UM, TWO THINGS, RIGHT? WHEN I WAS MENTIONING THE DOMESTIC AND PARTNER VIOLENCE, IT'S, THIS IS JUST PUTTING RESOURCES BEHIND IT, NOT NECESSARILY THE STRATEGY BEHIND IT. UM, BUT I WANTED TO PUT IT UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY BECAUSE IT IS A PUBLIC SAFETY AND A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. SO IT COULD BE BOTH. AND, UM, BUT, UM, I WANTED TO PUT IT, TO PUT IT THERE TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY FOR US AS A COUNCIL, AND WE'RE NOT TALKING STRATEGY, BECAUSE I THINK THE STRATEGY IS TO COME FURTHER ON OF HOW WE NEED TO PARTNER AND, AND DO IT IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS. UM, SECOND, JUST GOING BACK ON THE OFFICERS, AND YES, I'M TALKING ABOUT A POLICE SUBSTATION IN THE CAPITAL OR GENERAL FUND NOW. UM, AND I'M ALSO TALKING ABOUT, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO WAIT UNTIL ALL OF THIS IS FILLED UP BECAUSE WE ALREADY SAW THAT THE AGGREGATE AND THE GROWING OF THE CITY, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW, AND IT WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE FOR US TO WAIT UNTIL WE CATCH UP SOMEWHERE AND THEN CONTINUED OFF FURTHER. SO THAT'S THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, UH, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILMAN, THE WOMAN HAS A GREAT, EXCELLENT POINT. UM, MY QUESTION REGARDING THE BUDGET AND, AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, UH, SOONER THAN LATER. IS THAT A CONVERSATION THAT SHOULD COME OUT OF THE DELEGATE AGENCY BUDGET? OR CAN WE DO THAT OUTSIDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY, OR CAN IT BE A COMBINATION? I'M ASKING THAT QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW. UM, BECAUSE IT, IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED, LIKE COUNCILMAN PAL SAID, IT'S MORE THAN JUST POLICE OFFICERS IN THE COURTROOMS. IT'S ABOUT COUNSELING, IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING SERVICES, ABOUT PROVIDING HOUSING TO PROVIDE, PROVIDING EDUCATION. SO IT'S SEVERAL DIFFERENT COMPONENTS THAT MAKES IT A VERY COMPLICATED DISCUSSION. SO CAN WE COMBINE THE THREE BUDGETS OR WAS IT SOMETHING THAT WILL COME SOLELY OUT OF A DELEGATE AGENCY BUDGET? I THINK, AS YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S ALL OF THE ABOVE. AND WE'LL ADDRESS IT THAT WAY WITHIN THE BUDGET COUNCIL. YEAH. ALL VERY GOOD COMMENTS ON, ON THE, UM, SAFETY, UH, HERE IN TOWN. BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, AND THAT'S ALL I'M DOING, IS LOOKING AT THE DATA, UM, HOW MANY AUTHORIZATIONS WE HAVE, AND YOU CAN QUIBBLE ABOUT WHETHER A CADET IS PART OF THAT, THAT NUMBER OR NOT, ON FILLING THOSE AUTHORIZATIONS. WE CAN'T FILL 'EM NOW AND WE'RE GONNA LAY ON ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATIONS FOR SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE'RE ALREADY SAYING WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED RIGHT NOW, WE CAN'T FILL TO THE END OF 19. WE DON'T EVEN MAKE IT TO THE END OF 19. SO THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT WE'RE LAYING MORE ON THAN WE CAN'T FILL WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. AND MAYBE THAT'S WHERE WE CAN PAUSE AND TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE THAT WE CAN FUND MAYBE A NEW, NEW SUBSTATION SOMEWHERE. AND, YOU KNOW, BUT THE, THE OVERTIME VERSUS WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED RIGHT NOW IS A GOOD, GOOD, UH, EXAMPLE OF, HEY, WE'RE NOT FILLING WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED TODAY. AND THROUGH, UM, A COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW ON WHERE WE SHOULD BE ON WHAT OUR AUTHORIZATION SHOULD BE, I THINK SHOULD BE DONE. AND, UM, UM, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT REALITY, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FILLING WHAT WE'RE AUTHORIZED TODAY. AND WE WERE TOLD LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME THAT IF WE HAD THESE FIVE CADET CLASSES, THAT WE WOULD BE GOOD BY THIS SUMMER. WELL, NOW WE'RE BEING SHOWN NUMBERS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE GOOD UNTIL THE END OF 19. SO I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO TAKE, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE EVEN IF WE DO BRING ON ADDITIONAL AUTHORIZATIONS, ARE WE GONNA, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO FILL 'EM? BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT EVEN OUR CADET CLASSES, WE BRING ON 40 TO 45 TO 50, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ACTUALLY GRADUATING PER CADET CLASS. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM. THANK YOU, FRANCISCO. JUST TO CLARIFY SOMETHING FOR ANYBODY THAT'S LISTENING, THAT THERE WAS A, THIS IS A BIENNIAL BUDGET PROCESS. THE FIVE CADET CLASSES WERE OVER TWO YEARS. SO WE [04:35:01] WILL BE, WE WILL BE GOOD WHEN THE COUNCIL SET DIRECTION TO COMPLETE THOSE FIVE CADET CLASSES WITHIN TWO YEARS, WHICH IS THE END OF F Y 19. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON PUBLIC SAFETY. YEAH, I'D LIKE TO REITERATE SOMETHING I MENTIONED BEFORE, THOUGH. MAYBE WE CAN RETAIN MORE OF OUR OFFICERS. I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THAT SWEET SPOT WHEN IT COMES TO RETIREMENT, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE IDEA THAT IF YOU CAN EARN AN EXTRA FIVE OR $10,000 DOING THE SAME JOB YOU'RE DOING FOR ANOTHER YEAR, THEN A BONUS, YOU KNOW, MIGHT KEEP ANOTHER DOZEN, TWO DOZEN EXPERIENCED OFFICERS ON THE JOB AND HELP FILL SOME OF THOSE NEEDS. SO, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT'LL BE PART OF, UH, OUR EXPLORATION. HOW CAN WE, WE CONTINUE TO RETAIN QUALITY OFFICERS WHO MAY BE RETIRING AT 54, 55 WITH 30 YEARS OF SERVICE WHEN THEY COULD WORK ANOTHER FIVE OR 10 YEARS. I KNOW IT'S A TOUGH JOB, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK WITH THE RIGHT KIND OF INCENTIVES, UH, WE CAN MAYBE REDUCE THE NUMBER OF RETIREES AND CONTINUE TO FILL, UH, A LOT OF THOSE POSITIONS. UM, THANK YOU. UH, FRANCISCO, UH, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED, UH, THAT WE'RE DOING SOME STRATEGIC POLICING AND IT'S ALLOWING US TO MEET, UH, A LOT OF OUR NEEDS RIGHT NOW. SO I, UM, I DO SUPPORT THE CONTINUED, UH, USE OF, OF WHATEVER IT IS YOU'RE DOING TO, TO, TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. I THINK THE DECRIMINALIZING OF THE YOUTH CURFEW ORDINANCE IS ALSO GOING TO HELP US IN THAT ASPECT. 'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO FREE UP OFFICERS FROM DOING PAPERWORK AND HAVE THEM ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO, TO DO MORE OF THEIR, OF, OF THE WORK. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, AS A POLICY INITIATIVE, SOME INVESTMENT IN, UM, EITHER EQUIPMENT OR SOFTWARE THAT FREES UP THE OFFICERS, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE. I KNOW THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON PAPERWORK. UM, IN ADDITION, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, AN INVESTMENT IN SOME KIND OF, OF TOOL THAT CAN HELP THEM TRACK CASES BETTER. UM, I HAD A SIT DOWN WITH, WITH SOME OF THE FOLKS IN THE, IN THE DEPARTMENT, AND IT WAS REALLY HARD TO GET A NUMBER OF OPEN CASES FOR, UH, PROPERTY THEFT. AND I THINK, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, THAT THAT'S, UH, ACCOUNTABILITY, RIGHT? AS A, AS A GOVERNMENT. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FAIRLY, FAIRLY EASILY. SO IF THERE ARE TOOLS OR ANALYSTS THAT THEY NEED IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I I WOULD BE, UH, SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. UM, SO THEN, SO THERE'S PROPERTY CRIME OR THERE'S CRIME, AND THEN THERE'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE INJURED IN IT. AND THAT'S REALLY A, A HEALTH ISSUE, EVEN THOUGH IT, IT DOES FALL UNDER PUBLIC SAFETY. SO, LIKE MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGY FOR, UM, ERADICATING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HERE IN OUR CITY. UM, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT AT OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETING WHAT WE COULD DO REGARDING GUN VIOLENCE, UH, AGAINST WOMEN. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME RESOURCES DEDICATED TO AN INITIATIVE, UH, AROUND THAT, AROUND GUNS IN THE HOME AND HOW, UH, HOW WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T END UP, UH, CAUSING THE DEMISE OF, UH, OF A WOMAN IN THAT HOME. ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, ADDITIONAL RESOURCES FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH, UH, UNIT. SO THANK YOU. GREAT. SO AGAIN, IT FEELS LIKE WE'RE OH, LAST COMMENT TOO. AND, AND NOW I'M GONNA PUT ON MY, MY, MY ATTORNEY HAT AND I JUST, THAT I, I'M THINKING ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW IS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN HAVE COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS IN THE MUNICIPAL COURT. 'CAUSE WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN JEOPARDY OF GOING TO JAIL. BUT WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WHO HAVE A LEGAL DEFENSE AND SHOULD BE, AND SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO THAT LEGAL DEFENSE. SO CAN WE CREATE A POOL THAT CAN, THAT CAN PAY COURT APPOINTED ATTORNEYS A NOMINAL FEE JUST FOR CERTAIN, CERTAIN CRIMES THAT, THAT HAPPEN ON A CLASS C LEVEL. SO LOOK AT MUNICIPAL COURT LEGAL AID KIND OF ATTACHED TO THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT CONVERSATION. ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL? YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO ADD ONE THOUGHT ABOUT, UH, THE RETIRING POLICE. HOW DO WE PAY THEM? AND I THINK THAT IF WE TRANSFER THE MONEY THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO OVERTIME, INTO INCENTIVES TO THOSE RETIRING POLICE OFFICERS, WE CAN CONTINUE TO FILL THE POSITIONS AND REALLY MAYBE NOT SPEND ANY MORE MONEY IN DOING THAT. SO THAT'S WHERE I'D SUGGEST THAT MONEY COULD COME FROM. GREAT. ALRIGHT. SO WHAT'S NEXT? [04:40:01] WE CAN GO AHEAD AND . OKAY. DO YOU WANNA TAG THE, ACTUALLY I'M TEEING IT UP TO YOU SINCE, YEAH. OKAY. UH, THANKS, COUNCILMAN. I, UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT, IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL AND, AND WE, WE DID, UH, DO SOME BREAKOUTS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST YEAR, BUT WE DIDN'T ACTUALLY FUND IT AND WE ADDED, BUT DIDN'T ACTUALLY FUND IT. AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING THIS YEAR. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT I THINK IS, IS MOST COMMON AMONGST COUNCIL OFFICES IS HOW MANY CALLS WE, WE, UH, TAKE IN AND HOW MANY CASES WE HANDLE, UM, AS, AS COUNCIL OFFICES. BUT IN ESSENCE, WE BECOME SORT OF THE, THE PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE CITY. AND THIS IS REALLY AN EFFORT TO, TO HELP PROVIDE BETTER COMMUNICATION, BETTER ACCESS AND RESPONSE TO A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING, SEEING IN THIS, UH, RAPIDLY GROWING CITY. AND, AND SO I, I ASK, UH, THAT WE REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AS, AS WE'VE CALCULATED THIS, THIS ACTUALLY WOULD FUND, UH, EIGHT FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WITH BENEFITS. AND I, AND I SAY THAT 'CAUSE THIS IS COMPARABLE TO THE WAY WE, WE TREAT OUR CITY STAFF. SO I THINK OUR, OUR STAFF NEEDS TO BE, NEEDS TO HAVE THE SAME CONSIDERATIONS. UH, WE TALK ABOUT, WE ALSO LISTED SOME OTHER ITEMS AS WELL THAT COULD BE VERY HELPFUL. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS I, MY STAFF WORKS WELL BEYOND FULL-TIME HOURS. THEY, THEY'RE WORKING NONSTOP. AND, AND SO SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD, COULD ALSO HELP THEM HELP RELIEVE A LOT OF THEIR ISSUES, UH, WITH REGARDS TO HEALTHCARE COVERAGE, COVERAGE, UM, ALLOWANCES FOR, FOR THEIR PHONE, FOR, FOR, FOR THE VEHICLES. I MEAN, THEY, THEY DO QUITE A LOT. AND, UH, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THE LAST YEAR WE'VE, WE STARTED ABOUT 3,200 CASES, AND THAT'S A, THAT'S A HUGE WORKLOAD, NOT UNLIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HERE ON COUNCIL. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, MY, MY POINT HERE IS IT'S, IT'S ALL LAID OUT RIGHT HERE IN FRONT OF US. I ASKED CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE A, A ROBUST DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE GET THERE. IS THERE SUPPORT FOR THAT? I'D LOVE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS, COUNCIL. NO, GO AHEAD. OH, ELIA SAL . SURE. SO I, UM, MY, I'M, I'M APPROACHING THIS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE, AND THAT IS 156 NEW PEOPLE EVERY SINGLE DAY. YOU KNOW, WE SAW THE CENSUS RESULTS. I DON'T THINK ANYTIME SOON THE VOTERS ARE GONNA APPROVE A NEW CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT, UH, PRESSURE OFF OF US. UM, I'VE GOT, SEE, I'VE GOT UNPAID INTERNS AND A FULL COMPLIMENT OF STAFF TAKING CONSTITUENT CALLS AT MY OFFICE. UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S NOT A BAD THING. I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE JUST ENGAGED. I THINK IT'S A PRODUCT OF US DOING A GOOD JOB AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, UH, TALKING TO EVERYBODY AND INVITING THOSE CALLS. AND YET THAT WORK CONTINUES TO INCREASE. AND SO I'VE ONLY BEEN HERE ONE YEAR. UH, WHAT YOU'VE TOLD ME IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOTTEN INCREASINGLY, UH, BUSIER, UH, BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT, AND MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE OF THE GROWTH, OR MAYBE IT'S FOR OTHER REASONS, BUT I, UM, UH, THE, UM, THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT WE'RE SPENDING ON IT IS THERE, AND IT'S REAL. NOW, I DON'T USE A SINGLE ONE OF MY STAFF MEMBERS FOR, YOU KNOW, CAMPAIGN PURPOSES AT ALL. RIGHT. AND I WON'T, I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEDICATED EXCLUSIVELY TO THIS. AND SO, UM, I I HAVE A, UH, UH, I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH. AND, UM, I SUP I SUPPORT THAT. SO YOU SUPPORT IT? YEAH. OKAY. SURE. COUNCILMAN S YEAH, I WILL, UH, JUST, I'LL BE SHORT AND SAY THAT I, I SUPPORT INCREASING FUND FOR OUR, OUR STAFF. UM, BUT PIVOT JUST A LITTLE BIT TO, TO TALK ABOUT, UM, COSA THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO EMPLOYEES. AND I ASKED THE QUESTION AND I WAS ABLE TO GET THE ANSWER TO RUN DOWN FROM, UH, LORI STEWART ABOUT WHO'S LIVING IN THIS, THIS AREA THAT IS JUST OUTSIDE THE STEP HAY PLAN. UH, AND IT'S CLOSE TO 1200 EMPLOYEES. AND SO WITH RESPECT TO BEING ABLE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH A SCALPEL RATHER THAN, UH, A HATCHET IN THIS CASE, WHAT, WHAT I PROPOSE IS MAYBE THIS BUDGET OFFICE COME BACK TO US WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY IS GETTING JUST A 1% COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. AND I THINK [04:45:01] THOSE 1200, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN A PREVIOUS YEAR WHERE WE SET ASIDE A LUMP SUM TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS NOT JUST A 1%, BUT A 2%, UH, FOR THOSE INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEES. SO IT'S NOT ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT JUST TO ENSURE THAT, UH, SO IF I CAN SEE A PROPOSAL FROM CITY STAFF THAT, UH, THAT SPEAKS TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE FROM 1% TO 2% TO ANY CITY OF SAN ANTONIO EMPLOYEE WHO'S OUTSIDE, WHO'S MAXED OUT OF THE STEP PAY PLAN. SO CAN YOU GIMME THE LANGUAGE, UH, ONE MORE TIME, IF I CAN SEE, YEAH. AN INCREASE IN THE A A CARVED OUT INCREASE FOR COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR THOSE WHO HAVE MAXED OUTTA THE STEP PAY PLAN. YEAH, CORRECT. COUNCIL , THANK YOU. I ALSO, UM, AM SUPPORTIVE OF SOMETHING THAT REVIEWS THE COMPENSATION PACKAGES FOR, FOR COUNCIL AIDE. UM, LIKE THE COUNCIL, LIKE COUNCILMAN BELAY SAID, UM, WE HAVE A, A LOT OF WORK. SOME OF IT IS, UH, IS NEED AND, AND WE ARE REACTING TO THE REQUESTS OF OUR, OUR CONSTITUENTS. AND SOME OF IT IS SELF-CREATED, RIGHT? WE DO, WE DO WANT TO DO A GOOD JOB AND, AND GO OUT THERE, BUT, BUT NONETHELESS, UM, THERE IS A LOT OF WORK, UH, AND THE AIDES ARE AN EXTENSION OF, OF THE COUNCIL PERSON. SO I WOULD WANT THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN REALLY HIGH QUALITY STAFF. UM, I HAVE SOME GREAT STAFF RIGHT NOW. I WORRY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE ME AT, AT SOME POINT UNLESS I HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO, TO RETAIN THEM. AND, UH, ONCE THE STAFF TURNS OVER, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A GOOD SERVICE FOR THE CONSTITUENT. UM, BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN WITH A, WITH A NEW STAFF PERSON. AND I, I DO WANT TO, TO JUST REITERATE, UM, WHAT HIGH QUALITY WE HAVE TO GET FROM, FROM OUR STAFF, YOU KNOW, OUR CASEWORKERS, THEY HAVE TO KNOW SO MANY DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND THE IN, IN THE CITY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SHEPHERD SOMEONE THROUGH AND, AND FINISH UP THAT CASE. AND, UM, SAME FOR OUR, OUR POLICY STAFF. THEY HAVE GOT TO BE ABLE TO, TO ENGAGE WITH, UM, REALLY QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS THAT, THAT WORK AT, IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND AT THE HIGHEST ECHELONS OF OUR CITY. SO, UM, WE JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO, TO RETAIN THEM. SO THANK YOU. I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO COMMENT THAT SOME OF THESE CAME UP AS A RESULT OF SOME BAD ACTORS, AND I THINK, UM, SOME, PARTICULARLY THE PAY CAPS AND SOME EXPENSES, UM, WERE AS A RESULT OF THAT. UH, AND SO I THINK WE'VE CORRECTED THAT, UH, PROBLEM. AND SO PROBABLY THIS IS NOT NECESSARY ANYMORE, EVEN FROM THE PAY CAP TO THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES TO SOME OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT, UM, MAYBE DON'T REALLY MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. I THINK I, I DON'T SEE THAT LISTED HERE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULDN'T BE LIMITED BY THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES WE SHOULD HAVE. THIS CAME UP LAST TIME THAT WE COULD GO FROM SIX, SEVEN TO EIGHT OR SIX TO SEVEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ANY OF THOSE RESTRICTION ON THE AMOUNT OF, OF EMPLOYEES. AND SO, UH, I, ANYWAY, I, I, I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE STUFF I'M SEEING HERE. I'M THAT THE COUNCILMAN PASSED AROUND, UH, I'M SEEING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME JUST THIS MORNING. SO I HAVEN'T VETTED EVERY, EVERY STEP. UH, BUT I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING, UH, BETTER COMPENSATION FOR OUR STAFF BECAUSE THEY DO A LOT OF WORK ALSO ON THE WEEKENDS AFTER HOURS AT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS. BUT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING THINGS THAT ARE REALLY NOT, UM, WELL, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME ASSISTING PEOPLE WITH A C P S AFFORDABILITY PROGRAMS. UH, C P SS DID CREATE A SEPARATE PROGRAM TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT THE REALITY IS PEOPLE ARE COMING TO US STILL FOR THAT WORK. AND SO WE DO A LOT OF C P S, A LOT OF SAWS AFFORDABILITY PROGRAMS AND ASSISTING PEOPLE WITH THOSE. AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THOSE AGENCIES TO STEP UP THEIR, UH, UM, CONSTITUENT WORK AS WELL AND HELP US DO THEIR JOBS. SO, UH, BUT I'M GENERALLY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL THIS. ANYTHING WE HAVEN'T HEARD WITH REGARD TO K THANK YOU. UH, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY WHAT, WHAT IS BUDGETED FOR THIS YEAR? IS IT THE 403,000? OKAY. AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND LAST YEAR? DO WE KNOW WHAT IT WAS LAST YEAR IN THAT CATEGORY? 50 17, [04:50:01] ALMOST THREE 50. OKAY. AND, AND SO FOR 19, WHAT'S BUDGETED THE SAME THING? IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE PROJECTING FOR THE NEXT, KEEPING IT AT THE SAME, THAT'S WHAT'S IN THE FORECAST? YES. OKAY. YEAH. I'M, I'M ALL FOR THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA OF GETTING, GIVING BETTER COMPENSATION TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING FOR MY NEIGHBORS. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AND THEY'RE DOING AN OUTSTANDING JOB. YOU CAN TALK TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN DISTRICT NINE, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS TELLING ME HOW HARD AND HOW DILIGENT, HOW EFFECTIVE THE STAFF IS, WHO WORKS WITH ME. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW I'M IN A POSITION RIGHT NOW WHERE THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE I COULD DO COME NEXT YEAR. AND SO WE GONNA ASK PEOPLE TO LIVE, YOU KNOW, ON THE SAME SALARY YEAR AFTER YEAR WHEN THE COST OF LIVING IS GOING UP. UH, AND I, I THINK THIS IS, UH, A VERY, UH, SMART, UH, FORWARD THINKING WAY OF KEEPING GOOD PEOPLE DOING A GOOD JOB FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO I'M ALL FOR IT. SO THERE'S, THERE'S CRITICAL MASS THERE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. SO A QUESTION WOULD BE, UH, COUNCILMAN SALANA HAD MENTIONED, UH, INCREASING COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR MAXED OUT STEP PAY COST EMPLOYEES. I HADN'T HEARD ANYONE ELSE MENTION THAT. SO IF, IF I COULD HEAR WHETHER THERE'S SUPPORT THERE FOR THAT? YES, THERE'S SUPPORT THERE. YES. I HAD MENTIONED ALSO, COST OF LIVING AT 1%, I THINK IS, IS UNREASONABLE CONSIDERING WHAT THE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE NATIONAL ECONOMY RIGHT NOW. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US LOOK AT SOMETHING CLOSER TO 2%, WHICH IS KIND OF HALFWAY BETWEEN A LOT OF THE, THE FEDERAL, UH, ONE AND A HALF PERCENT AND WHAT A LOT OF PROJECTIONS ARE BY ECONOMISTS, UH, FOR INFLATION FOR NEXT YEAR. SO I, I'D LIKE TO SEE US REALLY GIVE STRONGER CONSIDERATION SOMETHING CLOSER TO TWO OR BETTER. RIGHT. SO, AND THAT WOULD BE ACROSS THE BOARD, SO NOT JUST THAT A ONE TIME REMEDY, BUT REALLY LOOK AT THAT REVISITING THE COLA PLANNING ASSUMPTIONS. RIGHT. OKAY. I, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, S'S, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THE, FOR THE 2% INCREASE. GREAT. SO GOOD, GOOD CRITICAL MASS THERE. UH, SO NEXT ITEM. I KNOW WE, WE HAVEN'T TACKLED THE BIG ONES, RIGHT? YOU GUYS HAVE ALL KIND OF STEPPED AWAY FROM THIS . SO I, I'M GONNA RECOMMEND THIS IS A GOOD MOMENT FOR A PAUSE. I KNOW THAT, UH, THE INCREDIBLE TEAM FROM THE CONVENTION CENTER HAS BROUGHT SOME AFTERNOON SNACKS, SO WE KEEP THAT BLOOD SUGAR UP. UH, PATRICIA IS PATRICIA HERE. CAN WE GIVE, UH, THE, THE WHOLE CONVENTION CENTER TEAM A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR, FOR THE GREAT CARE THAT THEY'VE TAKEN OF US? FANTASTIC. SO, UH, RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT THREE 20. WE'LL PICK IT UP AT THREE 30, UH, AND DIVE IN TO THESE UPPER TWO. HELLO. QUICK, QUICK HOUSEKEEPING FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS, 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I ADDRESS THIS WHILE, WHILE WE'RE GETTING THE FEEDBACK. COUNCIL MEMBERS, WHEN YOU ARE ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION, UH, QUOTE UNQUOTE, PLEASE EAT YOUR MICROPHONE 'CAUSE WE'RE GETTING CONSTITUENT FEEDBACK FROM THE PLEASE REACH UNDER THE TABLE, YOU'LL FIND A YOGA MATS. SERIOUSLY. ALL RIGHT, IF I CAN INVITE ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY MANAGER BACK TO THE TABLE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A LITTLE AFTERNOON DANCE OFF. NO, ALTHOUGH I, I HAVE IT ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT SEVERAL OF YOU ARE QUITE FANTASTIC KARAOKE SINGERS, WARM, WE'VE, WE'VE QUEUED UP A SELECTION. OKAY. HAVE WE GOT EVERYBODY BACK? SHOULD SO I WILL TURN TO THE MAYOR AS WE DO AFTER BREAKS TO . YEAH. WELL, UM, WHERE DO WE DIVE IN OF THE TWO TOPICS, UH, LEFT TO DISCUSS? I WOULD SAY THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS IS PROBABLY A LITTLE LESS, MORE CONTROVERSIAL. SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TACKLE THAT ONE FIRST AND THEN GET INTO THE PROPERTY TAXES. DISCRETION. OKAY. SO WHAT WOULD YOU PUT FORWARD FORWARD? WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT, UM, I'M HEARING PRETTY BROAD CONSENSUS ON THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE STREET'S BUDGET OVERALL. UH, IT'S CERTAINLY REFLECTIVE OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING WITHIN OUR [04:55:01] CONSTITUENCIES, BUT ALSO, UH, THE SPEAK OUT SPEAK UP PROCESS HAS ALSO INDICATED THAT, UH, I, WHAT WE DO NEED TO FIND A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSENSUS ON IS HOW DOES THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING GET SPENT? THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING. UM, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF, OF CONTINUING TO HONE IN ON, UH, THE EQUITY CONVERSATION ABOUT UTILIZING THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO TARGET AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED WITHIN EACH DISTRICT, UH, IRRESPECTIVE OF DISTRICT BOUNDARIES OUTSIDE OF THAT OVERALL THE SPENDING OF, UH, THE STREET'S BUDGET TO TARGET OVERALL IN THE I N P PLAN AREAS THAT CAN BE FURTHER LEVERAGED, WHETHER IT'S OPPORTUNITY ZONES OR, UM, PRIORITIES AS IT RELATES TO VISION ZERO AND SO FORTH. I THINK MIKE'S SLIDE ABOUT THE WHY OF T C I IS VERY IMPORTANT. PEOPLE WANT TO GET THE, GET TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING SAFELY. THEY WANT THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE OR THEY WANT THE STREETS THAT THEY DRIVE ON AND THE SIDEWALKS THAT THEY WALK ON TO BE IN GOOD REPAIR AFTER DISASTERS. AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A T C I DEPARTMENT THAT'S RESPONSIVE TO THEIR NEEDS. IF WE DO ALL THAT, WE SHOULD BE PRIORITIZING ISSUES OF PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UM, ROADWAY SAFETY AND SO FORTH. GREAT. SO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING LEVEL RECOMMENDATION, TARGETING STREETS AND SIDEWALKS OF GREATEST NEED REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT. UM, DID THAT CAPTURE IT OR ADDITIONAL? OKAY. SO IS THERE SUPPORT FOR THAT COUNCIL ONE? OH, SO, UM, PLEASE AND PLEASE, UH, I WAS SAYING WHEN WE WENT TO THE BREAK, UH, WE'RE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM FOLKS WATCHING FROM HOME THAT IT'S HARD TO HEAR YOU ON THE MICS, SO PLEASE GET VERY CLOSE TO THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE OUR CONSTITUENTS, UH, WATCHING REMOTELY. COUNCILMAN? UH, SO REGARDING SIDEWALKS, OH, REGARDING SIDEWALKS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW BRIEFINGS IN OUR, OUR COMMITTEES, BUT DOES IT REQUIRE ANY KIND OF ORDINANCE CHANGE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO PURSUE THE SIDEWALK INITIATIVES? UH, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT OUR, I THINK THAT THE ORDINANCE READS IS THAT THE HOMEOWNERS RESPONSIBLE FOR SIDEWALKS. SO DOES THAT REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE OR LET'S GET A CONSULT FROM MR. FRISBEE? SURE. WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE, UH, ORDINANCE 29 11, IF THAT'S, CAN WE LIGHT THIS MIC? IF THAT'S THE CHANGE? SO ORDINANCE 29 11, UH, SAYS THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE. UH, OF COURSE WE, WE DO INTERACT AS A CITY WITH, WITH THAT AND IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. BUT IF THAT'S THE CHANGE THAT WOULD BE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE. UM, OKAY, THEN I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT, THAT'S NOT A DECISION WE WOULD MAKE TODAY. WE JUST, WE'LL BE BRIEFED ON THAT AT SOME POINT, UH, BECAUSE I, I DO THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE PART OF OUR I M P, OUR MAINTENANCE PROGRAM. AND, UM, I DO THINK WE NEED TO EXPLORE, UH, WHAT, WHERE THE, THE FUNDING WOULD BEST BE SPENT, WHICH I THINK THE MAYOR SUMMARIZED PRETTY WELL. SO I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. UM, COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU. UM, IT'S MORE THAN AN ORDINANCE CHANGE. MIKE. UH, CAN YOU COME UP? UH, IS IT NOT, IT'S ALSO PART OF THE CHARTER PAGE 13. YEAH. WE MIGHT, MIGHT NEED ANDY TO, TO CHIME IN. 'CAUSE WE DID LOOK AT THAT CLOSE AS TO WHAT THE CHARTER SAYS AND WHAT, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, NEXT WEEK WE'LL HAVE A A B SESSION TOPIC ON SIDEWALKS. WE CAN ADDRESS IT IN DEPTH. UH, THE CHARTER DOES TALK ABOUT SIDEWALKS, BUT THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS WHETHER THE CHARTER WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO CHANGE TO CHANGE THE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITY. UH, COUNCILMAN? YES. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IT IS ADDRESSED IN THE CHARTER, BUT AS MIKE SAID, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE, UH, THE CITY AND HOW WOULD THEY WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE SCOPE OF WHAT THE LANGUAGE IS IN THE CHARTER AS TO WHETHER WE WOULD ACTUALLY NEED A CHARTER CHANGE OR NOT. NOT TO LOOK AT, YES, MIKE, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS AT THE HEART OF THE ISSUE, AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS, UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, THEY'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TREATING THEM QUITE THE SAME. UH, WE SAY, WHILE WE, WE AGREE THAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN A CLEAN STREET OR A CLEAN ALLEY, THE, THE, [05:00:01] THE FUNCTION IN WHICH THEY, THEY OPERATE IS, IS, IS IT'S, IS VERY SIMILAR. THEY'RE CONNECTED. IT'S PART OF A CONNECTED SYSTEM. AND SO AS A REASON, THE CHARTER, IT SAYS COMPEL RIGHT PEOPLE TO, TO, TO PROVIDE THAT. SO IT GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS IN, IN THE U D C. AND I THINK WE NEED TO REEXAMINE THIS BECAUSE WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR PUTTING UP THAT SECTION OF POWER LINE OR THAT SECTION OF SEWER LINE OR THAT SECTION OF THE STREET. BUT TO TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT SECTION OF SIDEWALK IS, IS, IS PART OF, I THINK, SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS COUNTERINTUITIVE. UM, SO I JUST WANT US TO EXAMINE THAT. AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. THE OTHER ISSUE IS REGARDING, UM, YOU, THE, THE IDEA OF, OF WHERE THIS GOES. AND I, I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I, WHAT I THINK WE NEED TO DO WITH SOME OF THIS MONEY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS, IS INVEST IN, UH, A, A REAL PLAN, UM, NOT, NOT A, NOT JUST A TARGET, BUT A PLAN THAT LAYS IT OUT. AND SO TO START, AND WE MENTIONED THIS EARLIER, IS, IS TO REALLY DO THIS CONDITION ASSESSMENT. YEAH. YOU NEED TO WRITE A MASTER PLAN, AND WE NEED TO DRAFT TO, UH, DEVELOP A MASTER PLAN. AND THEN SECONDLY, IT STARTS WITH THIS CONDITION ASSESSMENT. AND WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT ARE THE TOOLS THAT YOU NEED TO GET THAT GOING. IT'S, UM, IN FACT, DR. AMY OF U T S A EVEN SHOWED ME THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S LITERALLY A VAN WITH, WITH CERTAIN EQUIPMENT THAT CAN TAKE A PICTURE AND GRADE ALL THE SIDEWALKS. AND IT GOES BACK TO THIS, THIS ISSUE OF, WE TALK ABOUT SIDEWALK GAPS, BUT THERE'S EXISTING SIDEWALKS IN THE OLDER PARTS OF OUR CITY, THE INNER CITY THAT ARE IN, IN DISREPAIR AND IN REALLY, REALLY BAD SHAPE. UM, SO WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT. I THINK BEFORE WE CAN, UH, BE COMFORTABLE ROLLING OUT EXACTLY WHERE THESE SHOULD GO. UM, THESE KIND OF THINGS ARE GONNA, ARE GONNA HELP US UNDERSTAND THE, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS AND THE, AND HELP US CRAFT A REAL PLAN AND SET SOME STANDARDS, SOME REAL STANDARDS, UH, TO GET US THERE. BECAUSE THE, THE, THE BIGGER ISSUE IS, IS ALSO THE, THE OVERALL COST OF SIDEWALKS IS, IS, IS ALSO CREATING THIS IMPACT BECAUSE WE, WE ARE PUTTING IN SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF, OF MONEY, BUT IF WE DON'T BALANCE THE, THE, THE COSTS WITH A GOOD PLAN, UH, THEN, THEN WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A TIMELINE OR A, AN IDEA OF WHEN WE CAN SOLVE THIS. AND SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M ASKING, UH, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MIKE FRISBEE AND PETER ZONI, SO I'M ASKING FOR SOME MONEY TO BE SET ASIDE TO HELP US, UH, DEVELOP A, A SET OF STANDARDS AND A, AND A PLAN SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. SO I'M, I'M GONNA JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE, IS IF WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SIDEWALKS IN A MEANINGFUL WAY AND TRY TO SOLVE THIS HUGE GAP IN ISSUE, WE'RE GONNA DO IT. THANKS, COUNCILMAN LES. YEAH. SO, UH, MAYOR. YEAH. UH, MAYOR, I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT. THIS IS, UH, WHAT I THINK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR RESIDENTS IS EXPECTING OF US IS TO, UH, LEAN IN AND REALLY FOCUS ON STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. UM, AND THAT'S A FUNCTION OF THEIR DRIVING BY AND SEEING CRACKED SIDEWALKS AND SEEING STREETS THAT THEY THINK COULD BE BETTER. BUT IT'S ALSO A FUNCTION OF THEM BEING STUCK IN TRAFFIC. UM, AND I'M SENSITIVE TO THAT. I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT WHEN MY NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN TO ME ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, AND THAT'S ALL THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN DISTRICT EIGHT, UM, I REMIND THEM THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE, BUT IT'S, FOR ME, A SAFETY ISSUE. BECAUSE WHAT, WHAT SCARES THE HECK OUTTA ME IS HAVING AN AMBULANCE SHOW UP A MINUTE TOO LATE BECAUSE THEY'RE STUCK IN TRAFFIC, RIGHT? OR A POLICE OFFICER SHOWING UP TO A ROBBERY TOO LATE BECAUSE THEY'RE STUCK IN TRAFFIC. AND SO THIS, THIS IS LIFE AND DEATH KIND OF STUFF THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE, UH, TALKING ABOUT HERE. UM, ALONG ALONG THOSE LINES THOUGH, PEOPLE I THINK ARE SMART AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU TELL THEM THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD YOUR WAY OUT OF OUR TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, RIGHT? AND THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN PULLING FROM THE ASPHALT AND CEMENT LEVER FOR SO LONG, AND THAT THAT'S A SOLUTION THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE PROVEN THAT IF YOU JUST PULL FROM THOSE TWO LEVERS, YOU'RE REALLY JUST GONNA CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, TO UH, UH, FEED THE, FEED THE BEAST, RIGHT? AND MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE. AND SO, I, I DO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE, WITH THE SAME VIGOR, THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN BETTER SIDEWALKS AND BETTER STREETS, THAT WE ALSO INVEST IN SMART INFRASTRUCTURE TO HELP PEOPLE MOVE DOWN THE ROAD. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS TRANSPORTATION, RIGHT? AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE MOVING FROM POINT A TO POINT B, AND THAT IF WE'RE NOT INVESTING IN, YOU KNOW, INNOVATION AND, UH, SMART, INTELLIGENT TRAFFIC [05:05:01] MANAGEMENT, DISPERSION MODELING FOR, YOU KNOW, THE SWARM OF PEOPLE DRIVING AROUND TOWN, PREDICTIVE TRAFFIC, UH, YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS AND SIGNALING, UM, THEN I DON'T THINK WE'RE DOING, WE'RE DOING THE JOB. UM, AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AT OUR COMMITTEE IS, YOU KNOW, UH, THESE INNOVATION DISTRICTS, AND LIKE COUNCILMAN, UH, TREVINO SAID, YOU KNOW, A MASTER PLAN FOR SIDEWALKS IS A GOOD IDEA. AND, UH, I THINK THAT THERE'S CONSENSUS THAT A MASTER PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, INNOVATION AND SMART, INTELLIGENT INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE TOPIC OF TRANSPORTATION IS A GOOD IDEA. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, INVESTING IN, IN THAT, I THINK IS A, THE RESPONSIBLE WAY TO GO. BECAUSE, AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING, HEY, LET'S BE INNOVATIVE. I'M SAYING, LET'S DO WHAT ALL THE OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, AND WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND THE BALL ON THIS ONE ON, UH, BECAUSE, OR BEHIND THE CURVE ON THIS ONE. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER CITIES SORT OF EATING OUR LUNCH AND LEAVING US IN THE DUST WITH THEIR INVESTMENT IN SMART CITIES. AND I'M, I'M ENTHUSED THAT WE'VE GOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT AND THAT WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME, AND JOSE DE LA CRUZ AND CRAIG ARE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. BUT I, WE, WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO. UM, AND WE NEED TO GET PEOPLE OUTTA THEIR CARS, RIGHT? WE NEED TO GET THEM ON, UH, YOU KNOW, W W WALKING, BIKING, AND ON OUR BUSES. AND SO MY QUESTION FOR THE GROUP IS, IS I SAW SOMEWHERE IN, IN ONE OF THESE SLIDE PRESENTATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSAL IS TO FUND VIA, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH ANOTHER $10 MILLION INCREASED FROM 4.3 TO 10 MILLION. AND WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING IS WE'RE GONNA BE IN, YOU KNOW, IMPROVING FOUR ROUTES FOR PHASE THREE. UM, AND MY QUESTION IS, IS THAT, IS THAT ENOUGH? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW. AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT NUMBER CAME FROM, BUT I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE, I THINK THERE'S SOME THOUGHT THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN TO, YOU KNOW, WHY 10, WHY NOT 11, OR WHY NOT NINE? RIGHT. AND I, I NEED, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT A LITTLE BETTER. THANK YOU. CHERYL, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT EARLIER OR WOULD YOU, OKAY, SO COUNCILMAN, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH QUESTION. WELL, NO, NOT YET. UM, YES, I'M IN FAVOR OF INCREASING THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE STREET DOLLARS, UM, TO 110 MILLION. AND AS I SHARED EARLIER, I AM IN SUPPORT OF LOOKING OF GETTING THE DATA BACK. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE EQUITY OF THOSE DISTRICTS. DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT, UH, GEOGRAPHY, BUT WHERE IS IT? UM, SO I THINK THE MAYOR, I WANNA JUST REITERATE THAT, BUT ALSO LOOKING AND SEEING ABOUT THE, THE OPPORTUNITY ZONES WHERE THOSE LEVERAGING DOLLARS THAT WAY. I DID HAVE, I THINK I NEED QUESTIONS OF CLARIFICATION THEN FOR, UM, JEFF, AND FOR MIKE FIRST IS JEFF COYLE HERE? YES, SIR. JEFF, UM, ON THE ESSAY SPEAK UP SURVEY, DID, WAS THERE A QUESTION IN, IN THERE TALKING ABOUT TRANSIT TRANSPORTATION? NO. SO, SO JUST LIKE, THERE WASN'T ONE FOR THE PROPERTY TAXES OR WHAT WE WOULD CUT OR WHATEVER, THERE WASN'T SOMETHING ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. THERE WAS NOT, UM, I SHOULD ADD THAT THE, THE SPEAKUP SURVEY IS, IS JUST FOCUSED ON THE BUDGET PIECE. WE SIMULTANEOUSLY DID OUR, UH, EVERY OTHER YEAR COMMUNITY SURVEY. YEAH. AND WE'RE COLLECTING ALL OF THOSE RESULTS RIGHT NOW. THAT'S A MUCH MORE COMPREHENSIVE, BUT THERE WAS ALSO AN OTHER SLOT THAT YOU COULD FILL IN THINGS TOO. YES. AND THERE AND THERE. AND, UH, WE ARE COMPILING ALL THOSE, WE GOT ABOUT 3000 OPEN-ENDED COMMENTS. OKAY. WE'RE CATEGORIZING THEM AND WE'RE GONNA PROVIDE THEM TO YOU. OKAY. UH, IN JUNE. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION, THAT CLARIFICATION. AND THEN, UM, MIKE, TALKING ABOUT A MASTER PLAN, THEN HOW MUCH WOULD A MASTER PLAN COST? 'CAUSE MY CONCERN ON THAT WOULD BE PUTTING 110 THAT COULD ACTUALLY GO INTO STREET AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS INTO A PLAN THAT WE'RE PAYING CONSULTANTS TO. SO THAT IS WHAT I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT. SO HOW MUCH WOULD A PLAN COST? SO WE, WE'VE BEEN FOR THE LAST, UH, THREE MONTHS IN COORDINATION WITH BOTH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE AND COUNCILMAN TRAVINO, WE'VE BEEN DEVELOPING A CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN AND THE COMPONENTS OF THAT. SO THIS IS WHAT, WHAT THE, WHAT YOU HAD HERE WITH THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIZATIONS OF THE SIDEWALKS. CORRECT. RIGHT. SO THAT'S, THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPONENTS, UH, FROM THE MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING SIDEWALKS TO HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE GAPS, UH, FILLING THE GAPS, WHICH THAT IS THAT SCORING CRITERIA. OKAY. UH, WHAT'S THE BEST APPROACH TO, TO BUILDING, UH, SIDEWALKS? SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF COMPONENTS TO THAT. SO WE DO HAVE A WORKING DRAFT THAT WE ARE WORKING ON NOW. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. UM, TO THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, UM, AGAIN, REITERATE MY SUPPORT OF THE HAVING STREETS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND SIDEWALKS. ONE OF THE MAIN PRIORITIES IN PUTTING THAT, UH, FORWARD. I'M ALSO GOING TO USE THIS TIME RIGHT NOW, SORRY, UM, TO SAY THAT WITH THIS, AND WITH ALL THAT WE'RE DOING, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT OUR NEW AND [05:10:01] RESTRUCTURED TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD THAT'S GOING TO HAVE ALL OF DIFFERENT ELEMENTS FROM, UM, TRANSIT, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, CYCLING, EVERYTHING LIKE THAT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. SO THANK YOU. SO THE, THE QUESTION CAME UP TWICE, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T SKIP OVER IT. UH, COUNCILMAN ELIAS, AND THEN SECOND BY KIND OF ASKING ABOUT OUR, OUR FUNDING, THE VIA THEIR, THEIR QUESTION WAS, YOU KNOW, WHY 10? WHY NOT FOUR, WHY NOT 15? UH, IS THERE ANYONE THAT COULD SPEAK TO THAT? SO WE COULD ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR CLARIFICATION? I JUST, I MEANT TRANSIT IN GENERAL TO LOOK AT IT. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH CONNECT SA TO LOOK AT A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT THINGS. SO, UM, NOT NECESSARILY VIA, BUT WITH, WITH TRANSIT IN GENERAL. GOT IT. OKAY. COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU. UH, I WANNA ADD MY SUPPORT FOR THE CONTINUING EFFORT OF, UH, TAKING CARE OF STREETS IN, IN MANY PARTS OF THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED. AND I RECOGNIZE THAT WE PUT TOGETHER WHAT LOOKS TO BE ABOUT A $70 MILLION EFFORT OVER TWO YEARS TO UPGRADE STREETS IN ABOUT HALF THE CITY DISTRICTS. WHAT, 1, 2, 3, 5, AND 10. UH, AND I THINK THAT'S COMMENDABLE. I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK NOW. THE MAYOR'S ASKED TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL $11 MILLION TO THAT OVERALL WORK ON, ON STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. AND I JUST LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY. THAT'S ONE OF THE OPTIONS ON THAT. UM, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, DISTRICT NINE HAS SOME F STREETS THAT ARE WAY BELOW STANDARD THAT, UH, CERTAINLY COULD USE DIRECT ATTENTION. AND ALSO WE'VE GOT A SPECIAL CONCERN. WE'VE GOT STREETS THAT I CALL LEGACY STREETS. AND THESE ARE STREETS THAT AREN'T PART OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, BECAUSE WHEN THEY WERE BUILT 40 YEARS AGO, THOSE DEVELOPERS FELT LIKE, WE DON'T WANNA BE PART OF THE CITY. SO THEY BUILT THOSE COMMUNITIES AND THEY SAID, THESE ARE PRIVATE STREETS. BUT OVER THE LAST 40 YEARS, THOSE COMMUNITIES HAVE SUFFERED BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN THROUGH THEIR OWN FINANCIAL, UH, ABILITY TO KEEP THOSE STREETS UP TO THE STANDARDS THAT WE EXPECT TODAY. AND I'VE GOT SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS, NOT VERY BIG, BUT STILL THAT THEIR STREETS ARE IN VERY BAD CONDITION. BUT THE CITY SAYS, WELL, THEY'RE NOT CITY STREETS. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS BECAUSE OF A SHORTSIGHTED DEVELOPER AND PEOPLE WHO MOVE INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHO DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE CITY YET. THOSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING CITY TAXES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. AND WHY WE CAN'T AFFORD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THOSE COMMUNITIES RIGHT NOW, IF THOSE STREETS AREN'T UP TO THE CITY STANDARDS OF AT LEAST 70, THE CITY WILL NOT, WILL NOT ACCEPT THOSE STREETS IF THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO DEDICATE 'EM BACK TO THE CITY. AND I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, SOME AREAS WHERE THEY JUST CAN'T DO THAT. SO I WAS HOPING THAT POSSIBLY IF WE GET A ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY DISTRIBUTION OF THIS MONEY, WE CAN USE IT TO TRY AND HELP SOME OF THOSE LEGACY STREETS BECOME PART OF CITY STREETS AND SHARE THE COST OF UPGRADING THOSE STREETS, OR WORKING SOMEHOW WITH THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE REALLY LIVE IN STREETS THAT ARE IN BAD SHAPE AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO FIX 'EM, BUT THEY'RE PAYING TAXES JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE CITY. AND, AND WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO BRING THOSE STREETS INTO OUR CITY AND, AND TAKE CARE OF 'EM. SO I THINK THIS SHOULD BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION ON WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT EXTRA $11 MILLION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE AVAILABLE TO ADD STREET WORK. SO AT, AT A LEVEL OF KIND OF CITYWIDE BUDGET PRIORITY, I THINK THAT THE, WHAT DO WE DO WITH, WITH THE LEGACY STREETS, AS YOU SAY, THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO GRANULAR FOR THIS SETTING. HOWEVER, THE QUESTION OF ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY AS AS WAS PRESENTED, RIGHT? THERE'S SOME DIFFERENT AVENUES THAT YOU COULD TAKE FOR THAT, THAT 11 MILLION ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY VERSUS, YOU KNOW, NEED-BASED REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT VERSUS AS, AS WAS PRESENTED, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THAT BACK IN HOUSING, ET CETERA. I'D, I'D LOVE TO SEE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT LOGIC, 'CAUSE THE PART WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO YET IS HOW YOU PAY FOR ALL THESE LOVELY AND DELIGHTFUL THINGS RIGHT THERE. THERE, UH, IS NOT A MONEY TREE. SO YOU, YOU DO HAVE TO START MOVING TOWARDS SOME, SOME, UH, CONSTRAINTS AND CHOICES WITHIN THAT COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU. UH, SO I THINK THIS IS EXACTLY WHY I WAS VERY OPPOSED TO THE ANNEXATION DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, IS BECAUSE IN 30 YEARS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ACCEPT THOSE STREETS AND THAT, AND NOW THERE'S AN INCREDIBLE BURDEN ON OUR CITY BECAUSE WE ACCEPTED STREETS, UH, THAT WERE NOT TO STANDARD AND NOW HAVE TO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM. BUT I KNOW WE'VE CHANGED OUR, OUR POLICY ON ANNEXATION. [05:15:01] UM, BUT WE ALSO, UH, ARE DEALING WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE HERE. SO I'LL TRY AND STICK TO, TO THE POINTS THAT WE HAVE HERE, BECAUSE I THINK AS, AS WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THE POLICY DECISION AND PERHAPS MAKE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR SIDEWALKS, UM, I THINK MIKE, YOU'VE PRESENTED IN THE PAST AT THAT NEED FOR SIDEWALKS WAS 1.2 BILLION. UH, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN AGAIN, AS YOU STATED EARLIER ON, THE NEED FOR DRAINAGE IS ALSO IN THE BILLIONS, UM, OUR FACILITIES, WHICH WE HAVE NEVER SEEN AN ACTUAL, UH, NUMBER OF WHAT THE MAINTENANCE IS FOR OUR CITY FACILITIES. THAT'S HOW WE ENDED UP WITH 38 MILLION FOR THE CITY HALL, BECAUSE THAT HASN'T BEEN PRESENTED. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T SUPPORT A, A, A PROPERTY TAX, UH, REDUCTION BECAUSE I THINK WE STILL HAVE A LOT OF OBLIGATIONS. SO COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT ISSUE OF WHAT THE EXTENT OF NEED IS FOR SIDEWALKS? SURE. SO WE ESTIMATE THE, THE NEED TO FILL THE GAPS IS, IS APPROXIMATELY 800 MILLION, SEVEN TO 800 MILLION. UH, WE ESTIMATE THE MAINTENANCE NEED OF EXISTING SIDEWALKS IN THE A HUNDRED MILLION RANGE. BUT AGAIN, WE'VE GOTTA COLLECT THE DATA. YOU KNOW, THAT'S BASICALLY A SUBSET OF DATA THAT WE KNOW TODAY AND AND PROJECTING THAT OUT. SO WE, WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO COLLECT THE DATA OF THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS OVER THE NEXT YEAR. IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GET IT, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE MOVING. WE'VE ALREADY MOVED OUT ON THAT. SO I GUESS, AGAIN, GUESS TO MY POINT ABOUT WHY I, I DON'T, UH, ACCEPT THAT PROPERTY TAX SO WELL, UM, I'M INTERESTED TO HEAR ALSO, UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN LIKE THE POINT THAT THE COUNCILMAN MENTIONED ABOUT STREETS THAT THE CITY ACCEPTED, YOU KNOW, SOME TIME AGO WITHOUT PROPER MAINTENANCE. LIKE WHAT IS THE BURDEN OF THOSE KIND OF STREETS? SO, UH, AND, AND HAVE, UH, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A, UM, MAPPING ALL OVER THE CITY, BUT ARE THOSE ALSO INCLUDED? SO PRIVATE STREETS ARE NOT INCLUDED. SO I THINK THE COUNCILMAN'S REFERRING TO PRIVATE STREETS THAT HAVE DETERIORATED OVER TIME AND WHETHER OR NOT THOSE COULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE CITY, THAT'S NOT FACTORED INTO ALL OF THIS, OR, OR OUR, OUR AVERAGE P C I RATINGS AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? SO I, I WOULDN'T, I DON'T, I WOULDN'T ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION THAT WE TAKE OVER PRIVATE NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, UM, THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THOSE. THAT WAS THE DESIGN THAT THEY CAME UP WITH, AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE WANTED AT THE TIME. THEY DIDN'T WANNA PAY CITY TAXES, THEY WANTED TO MAINTAIN THEIR OWN PRIVATE STREETS, AND NOW WE'RE STUCK WITH THE BURDEN. SO, UH, I WOULDN'T ACCEPT THAT, UM, UH, FOR OUR STREET, UH, FOR THIS PORTION AND WHY I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP OUR PROPERTY TAXES WHERE THEY ARE. OTHER COMMENTS? YEAH. WITH REGARDS TO THE, UM, EQUITY CONVERSATION ON STREETS, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THIS IS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE PROCESS OF EQUITY FUNDING, BUT JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT PEOPLE GET LEFT OUT AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY DISTRICTS LIKE DISTRICT SIX IN THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE. NOW YOU, YOU CAN SAY, WELL, YOU GET YOUR GENERAL ROUGH PROPORTIONAL ALLOCATION OF SIX AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THEN WE GO DOWN AND TAKE DOWN THIS ADDITIONAL DEBT OF 30 PLUS MILLION OVER TWO, YOU KNOW, THESE TWO YEARS OF THIS. AND OF COURSE, THE COMMUNITY I REPRESENT GETS ABSOLUTELY NONE OF IT. UM, AND THE, THE PROBLEM WITH THAT CONVERSATION, WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ESSAY SPEAKUP RESULTS, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE ANSWERS CAME FROM DISTRICT SIX THROUGH 10. AND IN THOSE DISTRICTS, THEIR NUMBER ONE CONCERN WAS STREETS AND SIDEWALKS BY FAR. SO THE EQUITY CONVERSATION DOESN'T GONNA, ISN'T GONNA PLAY WELL. IT'S AN UNTENABLE POSITION FOR A REPRESENTATIVE OF ONE OF THOSE DISTRICTS. SO, AND THAT WAS THE, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT'S BEEN MADE IS TO KIND OF DISAGGREGATE THAT AND DO IT BASED ON NEED, REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT MANAGE. I WASN'T GOING THERE, BUT, OKAY. SORRY. SORRY, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I, NO, MY, MY, MY POINT IS, IS THAT I THINK WE NEED TO RE-LOOK AT THE ENTIRE EQUITY CONVERSATION. I, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN DISAGGREGATING, IT'S UNFAIR. UH, AND YOU'RE USING, AND YOU'RE SHORT CHANGING OTHER, YOU'RE SHORT, SHORT CHANGING PARTICULAR, AND THIS IS A MINORITY VIEW, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT I, IT NEEDS TO BE SAID THAT IT'S THE, OUR APPLICATION OF IT IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERY ITEM WE COME ACROSS. THERE'S NO CONSISTENCY TO IT. WE RARELY DISCUSS WHAT EQUITY MEANS IN EACH ONE OF THESE ITEMS. AND I THINK THE WHOLE CONVERSATION IS FLAWED FROM THE BEGINNING. UH, AND IN THAT CASE, YES, THAT'S, THAT ADDRESSES MY POINT, WHICH IS, WHAT IS, WHY IS THE F STREET IN DISTRICT SIX ANY MORE, ANY LESS IMPORTANT THAN THE F STREET IN DISTRICT TWO? AND THE ANSWER IS IT'S NOT. BUT OUR METRIC PUT US IN A POSITION WHERE THE DISTRICT SIX RESIDENTS SUFFERED. AND I THINK THAT EQUITY CONVERSATION IS FLAWED FROM THE BEGINNING. AND THE WHOLE THING NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND DECIDE IF WE'RE GONNA INFILTRATE EVERYTHING WE DO AS A COMMUNITY, UH, THROUGH THIS EQUITY CONVERSATION. BECAUSE ULTIMATELY SOMEONE'S GONNA GET SHORT CHANGE TO FIX SOMETHING ELSE IN OUR COMMUNITY. I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT THEY'RE THAT SHARED RESPONSIBILITY THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A VACUUM. IT HAS TO BE SOLD AND DISCUSSED AND TALKED TO MULTIPLE COMMUNITIES AND, AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND [05:20:01] RESIDENTS. AND WE DON'T GO THERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I TRY MY BEST, BUT IT'S HARD TO GO SAY, HEY, WHEN YOUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE SIDE IS STREETS, AND I CAN'T DELIVER THAT TO YOU OTHER THAN THIS THE ROUGH PROPORTIONAL PIECE. I THINK WE'VE GOT ISSUES. SO MY, MY POLICY I'M ADVOCATING FOR IS WE GOTTA BEGIN TO MOVE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE EQUITY CONVERSATION TO FIND A BETTER MIX BETWEEN EQUITY AND ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY. 'CAUSE IT DOES COME REALLY THAT ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY PUTS EACH ONE OF US ON THE TABLE, THEN IT BECOMES OUR FAULT IF WE CAN'T HANDLE AND MANAGE OUR PARTICULAR BUDGETS IN OUR PARTICULAR DISTRICTS. SO I PREFER THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY 'CAUSE IT'S EQUAL AND FAIR. SO THAT'S A MASSIVE POLICY CONVERSATION. OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT GONNA GET MUCH TRACTION BECAUSE, AND WE'VE BEEN ON THIS FOR A YEAR, BUT I'M JUST AT THIS POINT, IT'S, IT'S HURTING MY COMMUNITY AND I, I'M, I'M, I JUST THINK IT'S WRONG. AND, UH, WE CAN'T LEAVE OUT, AND I'M SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO THE WEST SIDE EDGEWOOD AND PORTIONS OF MY COMMUNITY, UH, THAT GET ZERO, AND THEY'RE JUST AS BAD AS ANY OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD OR STREET IN THIS RESIDENT. BUT THAT IT'S NOT JUST THAT CONVERSATION. IT IS AN EQUITY CONVERSATION AND WHAT THAT MEANS AND HOW WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THAT ACROSS OUR ENTIRE, UH, PORTFOLIO WORK HERE AT CITY COUNCIL. SO, SO I, I ASKED THE QUESTION, IS THERE SUPPORT FOR, FOR REVISITING, UH, AND WITHDRAWING THE, THE EQUITY LOGIC. SO NEXT COMMENT, YES, PLEASE. I, I, I CAN UNDERSTAND SOME OF, SOME OF THE LOGIC HERE ON, UH, EQUITY VERSUS PROPORTIONALITY, AND MAYBE THERE IS A BETTER MIX OUT THERE SOMEWHERE. I, I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTH TAKING, TAKING A LOOK AT, TAKING ANOTHER STAB AT IT. YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOME SOMETHING ELSE WE CAN DO, UM, A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A BETTER MIX THAT WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE OUT THERE? BUT I WILL SAY THAT THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE CURRENT BUDGETS THAT WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE GONE THROUGH AND, AND PRIORITIZED EVERY STREET WITHIN DISTRICT 10 AND YOU KNOW, IT, IT MIGHT BE IN SOME OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS OR SOME NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS, WHATEVER THAT MIX IS. AND THERE'S DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS FOR STREET REPAIR. SO IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK TO PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER. AND, AND DOING THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STAFF, I THINK IS, UH, VERY IMPORTANT THAT, UH, THAT WE DO. AND IT MAKES IT MORE APPARENT TO THE RESIDENTS WITHIN DISTRICT 10, WHY WE CHOSE A PARTICULAR ROAD OVER ANOTHER ONE. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH RE READDRESSING IT AND TAKING A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MIX IS BETWEEN THAT PROPORTIONALITY AND EQUITY. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT CERTAINLY WE'VE DONE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, IF WE HAVE ITEMS THAT ARE KIND OF, PLEASE STUDY THIS AND, AND BRING US BACK SOME THINKING ON IT AS OPPOSED TO A HARD BUDGET RECOMMENDATION, WE'VE DONE THAT. SO I, I COULD CERTAINLY INCLUDE THAT IN THE PROCEEDINGS. YEAH. I GUESS TO CLARIFY THE QUESTION, YOU SAID, WOULD WE SUPPORT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SUPPORTING THE STANDARD THAT WE'VE HAD THE LAST YEAR, UH, WHERE WE HAD BASICALLY A TOTAL OF $99,000 AND 66, 60 5,000, OR 60, 64,000 THAT WAS SPLIT PRETTY EVENLY BETWEEN 10 DISTRICTS AND THE OTHER 35 THOU, UH, MILLION, EXCUSE ME, 35 MILLION WENT TO FIVE DISTRICTS. THEN, ARE WE GONNA SAY WITH THIS NEW 11 MILLION, WE SPLIT UP 65% OF THAT BETWEEN ALL 10 DISTRICTS AND 35% WOULD GO TO THOSE FIVE. I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINING THE KIND OF STANDARD WE AGREED WELL, THAT, THAT ACTUALLY WASN'T PUT ON THE TABLE, RIGHT? THAT, AND THAT'S THE QUESTION I'D LOVE FOR YOU ALL TO, YEAH. TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME CRITICAL MASS ON IS THE, THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED, WERE TAKING A ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY APPROACH OR FOR THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING OR MAKING IT NEED-BASED, BUT NOT BASED ON DISTRICT. SO NOT, NOT USING THE DISTRICT LEVEL EQUITY LENS. AND SO THERE WASN'T A RECOMMENDATION THAT, THAT BE ROLLED IN TO THE SAME EQUITY LENS LOGIC. SO ARE WE SAYING WE'D CONTINUE WITH THE SAME 65, 35 SPLIT WITH THIS OTHER MONEY? IS THAT KIND OF THE, THE GIST OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING OR PUT IT ALL IN THE NEEDS COUNCIL ONE, THE FIVE, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT FROM WHAT WE MADE THE DECISION LAST BUDGET SESSION, THAT WE WOULD DO THE TWO YEARS TO GET THOSE STREETS UP TO THE 70 P C I OR INCREASE THE AVERAGE. THAT IS WHERE I WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN RIGHT NOW. AND THEN THIS, IT WOULD STILL BE ON TOP OF AN, UM, EQUITY TO LOOK AT THE DISTRICTS INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL THAT HAVE BEEN UNDERSERVED AND UNDERINVESTED IN FOR DECADES AND GENERATIONS. THANK YOU. CAN YOU, UM, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR ME? I WASN'T, YEAH. SO THE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL MILLIONS HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, I'M STILL WANTING TO SEE WHAT I SAID BEFORE, IS LOOKING AT THO THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD TO STILL [05:25:01] LOOK AND SEE AT THE, UM, THE OLDEST STREETS, THE OLDEST STREETS. LET'S LOOK AT THOSE TWO RECOMMENDATIONS. OKAY. THAT HAD BEEN MENTIONED BY CITY STAFF. OKAY. SO REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT, RIGHT? BASED OKAY. YES. GREAT. JUST THAT PORTION THOUGH. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN. UH, I CONCUR. UH, WE MADE A COMMITMENT WHEN WE ADOPTED THE LAST BUDGET THAT WE WERE AIMING TOWARD A 70 AVERAGE P C I FOR, FOR THE DISTRICTS. I WANNA MAKE SURE WE MEET THAT GOAL. UH, I ALSO CONCUR WITH, UH, ON SOME ISSUES WITH COUNCILMAN BROCK HOUSE IN THAT DISTRICT SEVEN AND SIX WERE, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T, DIDN'T GET ADDITIONAL FUNDING BACK THEN BECAUSE IT WAS AN AVERAGE BY DISTRICT. SO YOU'VE GOT REALLY NEW AREAS WITH REALLY OLD AREAS. SO, UM, ONCE WE MEET THAT 70 P C I AS WE GO FORWARD, IF WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD, UH, LIMIT OURSELVES BY DISTRICT. NOW IN TERMS OF THIS EQUITY DISCUSSION, I FEEL, UM, THAT AS THE CHAIR OF THE HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE, SOMEHOW I, I, I HAVE FAILED. SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS ASK STAFF TO, UM, COME TELL US HOW THEY'RE APPLYING EQUITY IN, IN THE TRANSPORTATION, UH, AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS DEPARTMENT, AND HAVE A THOROUGH DISCUSSION THERE ABOUT WHAT DOES EQUITY MEAN IN, IN OUR BUDGETING PROCESS. COUNCILMAN? YEAH. IF I COULD JUST ADD TO THE CONVERSATION, I THINK THAT WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS, UH, RUNNING EVEN FURTHER TO, OR, OR RUNNING MORE TOWARDS EQUITY AND NOT RUNNING FURTHER AWAY FROM IT. AND WHAT THAT SUGGESTS IS THAT THERE'S WAYS TO PERFECT THE PROCESS. SO TO BE PLAIN IN THE SUGGESTION, UH, WE SHOULD STICK TO A COMMITMENT THAT WE'VE MADE TO GET TO 70%, UH, WITH THE FUNDS THAT ARE UP TO 99 MILLION. AND WITH THAT SEPARATE PIECE, I THINK WE START HAVING THIS DISCUSSION THAT TAKES THE, THE, THE, THE OTHER END OF THIS PENCIL, THE ERASER AND JUST SAYS, REGARDLESS OF BOUNDARY DISTRICTS, UH, WHERE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE THINK WE CAN IMPLEMENT WITH THAT 11 MILLION, UH, SOME AREAS THAT ARE F'S THAT REALLY NEED WORK. AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT COMES BOTH FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF BEING OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT, UM, UM, EQUITY DISCUSSION WITH REGARD TO GETTING MORE FUNDS IN DISTRICT FOUR, BUT ALSO BECAUSE, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T FORMALIZED, BUT WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR DECADES WITH REGARD TO THIS. USING A SIMPLE EXAMPLE WITH ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, YOU KNOW, MY DISTRICT OR DISTRICT THREE OR DISTRICT TWO GETS MUCH MORE RESOURCES IN TERMS OF ANIMAL CARE SERVICE. WE HAVE MORE CALLS FOR SERVICE. THE SAME THING WOULD GO FOR METRO HEALTH. UH, THERE'S CASES WHERE THEY DEPLOY IN CERTAIN AREAS BECAUSE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PARTICULAR ILLNESSES WHERE THEY NEED TO TARGET. AND I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING IT, AND I THINK WE'RE REFINING THE PROCESS MORE AND MORE. SO WE SHOULD BE, UH, REALLY DOING EQUITY IN WAYS THAT SOMETIMES LOOKS BEYOND BOUNDARIES. I'M, I'M COMPLETELY ON BOARD WITH THAT. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT WE DO IS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE A COMMITMENT TO AT LEAST THE, THE DISTRICTS THAT WE MADE FOR THE TWO YEARS ON, ON THE NINE, 9 MILLION. GREAT ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THIS, BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS GUY. SO, DOES ANYONE WANNA, SORRY. SO WE'RE OFF THE EQUITY, BUT WE'RE STILL ON STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, RIGHT? UH, I I'D LOVE TO COME OFF STREETS AND SIDEWALKS, BUT IF YOU'VE GOT MORE TO SAY. NO, NO, I'VE GOT MORE. I'M SORRY. UM, SO I, I WANNA, UH, GO BACK TO A POINT THAT COUNCILMAN ELIAS BROUGHT UP REGARDING, UH, EXPANDING HOW WE THINK ABOUT MOVING PEOPLE THAT WE DO HAVE TO DO IT SMARTLY. SO IN ADDITION TO THESE CAPITAL INVESTMENTS, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE IMPROVE IN OPERATIONAL INVESTMENTS. AND, UM, MAYBE TO THE CHAGRIN OF SOME OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT MEANS, TO ME THAT MEANS FINDING WAYS OF MOVING PEOPLE BEYOND THEIR CAR. SO NOT JUST, UH, HELPING VIA, BUT HELPING COMMUTERS KNOW WHAT OPTIONS THEY HAVE AVAILABLE. UM, WE CAN'T SUPPORT THE ADDITIONAL, UH, PEOPLE WE'RE GETTING EVERY DAY IN OUR CITY WITH ONLY ASPHALT AND, AND CONCRETE. UM, THE MORE PEOPLE DRIVE, THAT'S MORE WEAR AND TEAR IN OUR STREETS. AND A PART OF OWNING A CAR AND DRIVING, UM, SORRY, THAT CREATES PART OF OUR AFFORDABILITY BURDEN THAT WE HAVE WHEN, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING, THAT'S ANOTHER PIECE THAT, THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR. UM, SO I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COMMITMENT IN OUR BUDGET TO TRANSPORTATION DEMAND MANAGEMENT, WHETHER IT'S A DOLLAR AMOUNT OR, OR A LINE ITEM. UH, AND I ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT, UM, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING SO THAT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO WALK SAFELY, UH, WHEN THEY DO DECIDE TO USE OUR SIDEWALKS. SO THANK YOU. GREAT. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON [05:30:01] STREETS AND SIDEWALKS? GREAT. SO ANYONE CARE TO MAKE A OPENING OFFER? YES, SIR. ALRIGHT. PROPERTY TAXES AND DEBT FINANCING. I, I, I KIND OF, UH, SUM SUMMARIZED IT EARLIER TODAY, UM, ABOUT WHAT A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS OR THE MAJORITY OF HOME HOMEOWNERS FACE EVERY YEAR ON RISING PROPERTY VALUES AND WHAT WE AS A CITY CONTROL. AND THAT'S A LITTLE OVER 20% THAT WE CONTROL. IT'S NOT THE STATE, NOT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, NOT AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. WE CONTROL THAT 20%. AND, YOU KNOW, YEAR AFTER YEAR, YOU KNOW, THIS CITY HAS BENEFITED FROM RISING PROPERTY VALUES, AND WE HAVE NOT RAISED OUR TAX RATE, WHICH IS GREAT. UM, WHAT IS IT, OVER 20 YEARS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE HAVEN'T RAISED OUR TAX RATES. THAT'S A, THAT'S FANTASTIC. UH, AND THE REASON WE HAVEN'T HAD TO PRIMARILY IS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN GETTING THAT BUMP UP IN, IN, UH, PROPERTY VALUES EACH YEAR. AND THAT, AND I AM GOING THROUGH THAT RIGHT NOW, UH, THROUGHOUT DISTRICT 10. A LOT OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY TAXES GOING UP. YEAH. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY THAT WE CAN SHOW A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO GIVE SOMETHING BACK TO OUR HOMEOWNERS HERE THAT ARE STRUGGLING. IT, IT WORKS TOWARDS THE ADVANTAGE OF OUR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY. IT WORKS TOWARD THE ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. IT WORKS TO THE ADVANTAGE OF THEM BEING ABLE TO HAVE MORE DISPOSABLE INCOME THAT THEY CAN, THEY CAN, UH, SPEND ON OTHER THINGS HERE IN TOWN. SO THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS IN THAT. AND I HEARD A COMMENT WHILE AGO, YOU KNOW, UM, FROM COUNCILMAN PALS IS, UH, LET'S DO WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND LET'S, LET'S CATCH UP. WELL, LET'S DO THAT HERE FOR, UH, A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. LET'S CATCH UP TO WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE PROVIDING. WE'RE, WE'RE WAY BEHIND. AND, AND I, I THINK WE OWE IT TO OUR, UH, NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN PAYING YEAR AFTER YEAR AND PAYING MORE YEAR AFTER YEAR, THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOMETHING FOR THEM AS A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. SIR COUNCILMAN, WHAT WOULD BE A PROPOSITION YOU WOULD LAY DOWN ON THE TABLE FOR YOUR PEER? I WOULD SAY THE PROPOSITION RIGHT NOW IS AT LEAST A 5%. AND IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THAT WAS ABOUT AN $11 MILLION PRICE TAG ON IT. UH, I WOULD SAY TAKE THAT, UH, $13 MILLION, UH, WHAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR AND APPLY IT TO THAT. AND THEN ON THE STREETS, GO AHEAD AND KICK THAT UP, UH, ON CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION TO FUND THAT SHORTFALL ON THE STREETS INSTEAD OF PUTTING THAT 13 OR $14 MILLION AGAINST THAT. SO, CAN I OFFER THAT FOR DISCUSSION FROM THE GROUP? WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT COUNCILMAN? THANK YOU. I GUESS MY PERSPECTIVE, BEFORE WE START HAVING A DISCUSSION ON PROPERTY TAXES, I'D LIKE TO GET THE, THE, UH, R O I, WHAT IS THAT CALLED? COUNCILMAN PERRY? THE, THE RETURN ON THE INVESTMENT. IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE, UH, PROPERTY TAXES, THEN WHAT ARE WE GOING TO SUFFER ON THE BACK BACKEND? THESE TAXES TAKE CARE OF OUR STREETS, THEY TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITIES, THEY EMPLOY PEOPLE. THEY, THEY PROVIDE SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES FOR US, SAY AS A WHOLE, IF WE'RE WILLING TO REDUCE THAT REVENUE, HOW IS THAT GONNA AFFECT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE? SO BEFORE I SUPPORT ANY, UH, TAX BREAK OR TAX HOMESTEAD TAX RELIEF, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RETURN ON THAT INVESTMENT. OTHER COMMENTS? YES, I'LL GO AHEAD AND OBVIOUSLY SUPPORT COUNCILMAN PERRY'S, UH, YEAR LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, UH, THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT SOME OF US FEEL WE WERE, WE CAME HERE TO DO, I MEAN THIS, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM. AND I, AND I BELIEVE IN, WHEN WE FIRST SAT DOWN AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS, THAT, UH, AN ABILITY TO GIVE THAT UP AND PUT MONEY BACK IS A STRONG MESSAGE TO SEND. I WOULD, I WOULD ADVOCATE LIKE I DID THE LAST BUDGET CYCLE, THAT IT'S ALWAYS A WORD, THAT CONVERSATION TO FIND, TO COUNCILMAN SHAW'S POINT. AND THERE'S UP A VERY VALID POINT, WHICH IS WHAT GOES WELL, THEN LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT GOES. AND WE THEN LET'S DO IT. LIKE WE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE, WE'RE SITTING HERE AT FOUR 15 IN THE AFTERNOON AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE CONVERSATION. SO WHEN DOES THE CONVERSATION COME THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS WE JUST SIMPLY DON'T NEED TO BE DOING? AND IT'S NOT IN THIS, RIGHT? IT'S OUR CHARTER. THERE'S SOME THINGS WE'RE DOING. SO I WOULD REALLY HAVE APPRECIATED THAT CONVERSATION SOMETIME ABOUT WHAT CAN BE CUT, WHAT, WHAT IS REDUNDANT OPPORTUNITIES, WHAT IS OUTSIDE OF THE CORE SERVICES THAT WE SHOULD BE OFFERING? 'CAUSE THAT, TO ME, TAX RELIEF IS A CORE SERVICE, RIGHT? THAT'S PROPERTY [05:35:01] HOMEOWNERS. IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING I HEAR EVERY DAY IN DISTRICT SIX. UM, AND I, I WOULD AGAIN, JUST WANNA REITERATE THE NEED FOR AT LEAST, THE VERY LEAST WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE VETERAN EXEMPTION. UM, THAT IS NOT AS IMPACTFUL, RIGHT? I GET IT. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I'M, I'M GONNA ADVOCATE AND SUPPORT THE 5% ALL DAY LONG FOR THE HOMESTEAD CITY HOMESTEAD. BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE VETERAN EXEMPTION NEEDS TO BE INCREASED IMMEDIATELY. WE ARE MILITARY CITY U S A AND TO NOT OFFER THAT TO BE, I MEAN, 12,500, THE CLOSEST ONE TO US IS A $40,000 EXEMPTION. SO WE ARE WOEFULLY SHORT, UH, IN OFFERING OUR VETERANS, OUR DISABLED VETERANS THAT AVENUE. WE, I'M, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DO AND IMPLEMENT AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT IT DOES SPEAK VOLUMES THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS OFFERING A PROPERTY TAX EX LOCAL CITY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, AND WE'RE NOT DOING IT. I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT US IN THE STATE OF TEXAS ACROSS EVERY MUNICIPALITY. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE DOING IT. IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN IT COULD BE SUCCESSFUL FOR US. BUT LET'S HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO GO AND WHAT WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT EVERYTHING WE WANT TO SPEND. WE DON'T TALK A LOT ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE SPENDING OR THE AREAS THAT CAN BE CUT AS A RESULT OF THAT. AND I'D WELCOME THAT CONVERSATION, UH, DURING THIS BUDGET CYCLE. 'CAUSE IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT 45 MINUTES. SO THANK YOU. THAT IS, THAT IS A POINT WELL TAKEN AND CORRECT. COUNCILWOMAN . UM, THANK YOU. SO I AM ADVOCATING FOR A POLICE SUBSTATION IN MY DISTRICT. I'M ALSO ADVOCATING, UH, FOR INCREASED ANIMAL CARE SERVICE OFFICERS IN MY DIS IN THE CITY AS WELL AS CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS FOR THE CITY. SO I KNOW THAT WITH INCREASES, UM, WE NEED, THERE NEED TO BE CUTS SOMEWHERE, AND I'M READY TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION DURING OUR WORK SESSIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. SO, UM, I KNOW THAT THE CITY STAFF WILL DO THAT WHEN THEY COME AND PRESENT THOSE TO US. BUT WITH THAT, THOSE ARE DEMANDS THAT MY RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR ME AS CORE SERVICES OF CITY. SO I DON'T THINK BY BEING REQUESTING THESE, I CAN DO THAT WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN LOOKING AT A DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE. THAT'S WHY I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT STATE LEGISLATIVE OPTIONS OF US MOVING FORWARD. AND AS COUNCILMAN PALIS MENTIONED, AND THE C C R THAT I SIGNED IS TO DO MORE ROBUST INVESTIGATION ON THAT MOVING FORWARD, UM, ON THE PROPERTY, UH, TAX RELIEF. AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I WILL SAY THERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCILMAN K? YES. I REALLY BELIEVE THE PEOPLE THROUGHOUT SAN ANTONIO, AND, AND I'VE HEARD IT FROM MANY PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT ARE CRYING OUT FOR TAX RELIEF. AND I SUPPORT THE CONCEPT, UH, THAT WE SHOULD AS A CITY PROVIDE THAT TAX RELIEF. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE IN A POSITION TO DO THE KIND OF, UH, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION THAT OTHER AGENCIES PROVIDE. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK TOWARD BUILDING TO OVER TIME. I DO SHARE CONCERNS. I KNOW THAT MANY OF US DO THAT. UH, WE, WE MAY NOT GET THE SAME KIND OF FEDERAL FINANCIAL SUPPORT IN THE FUTURE. THE SAME KIND OF STATE FINANCIAL SUPPORT, THE STATE MAY EVEN CAP OUR TAXES. I THINK ALL OF THOSE ARE, ARE THINGS THAT PLAY IN MY MIND. BUT I BELIEVE WE CAN SHOW THE GOOD FAITH TO THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY BY PROVIDING AT LEAST THE, UH, THE INITIAL TAX EXEMPTION ON THE FIRST $5,000 OF THE VALUE OF THEIR HOMES. AND I BELIEVE THAT SHOWS GOOD FAITH AND LETS THEM KNOW THAT WE ARE WILLING TO LOOK DOWN THE ROAD TO CREATE, UH, A FAIR, UH, WAY OF PROVIDING A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OVER TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN OUR, OUR CITY. SO I WOULD SUPPORT, UH, A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IF WE CAN COME TO AGREEMENT ON ONE. UH, AND SO I HOPE THAT DISCUSSION CONTINUES. COUNCIL MEMBER, LES, THANK YOU. I SUPPORT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IF AND WHEN I GET THE DATA THAT SUPPORTS THE ARGUMENT THAT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS THE SOLUTION TO THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM, RIGHT? UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA, UH, THAT C C R THAT WAS CIRCULATED IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TOWARDS MAKING SURE THAT WE'LL MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION BASED ON DATA THAT WE'VE ANALYZED AND THAT WE'VE DIGESTED, RIGHT? AND IF AT THE END OF THE DAY IT PROVES OUT THAT THE ROOT CAUSE OF ALL OF OUR PROBLEMS IS THAT IT IS THE CITY THAT IS OVERTAXING ITS CITIZENS, AND THAT SOMEHOW WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UH, PROVIDE THAT RELIEF, THEN I'M WILLING TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. BUT WHAT I HEARD TODAY WAS BEN GOEL TELL US THAT IF WE DECIDE TO JUST GIVE UP FIVE BUCKS PER PERSON, OR 10 BUCKS, OR $500 PER PERSON, THAT DOESN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THAT ENDS UP RESULTING IN OTHER SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND OTHER TAXING AUTHORITIES COMING IN AND RATING WHAT WE LEFT BEHIND ON THE TABLE. [05:40:01] AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR AUTHENTIC SOLUTIONS, RIGHT? AND NOT SOLUTIONS THAT SOUND GOOD, BUT THAT ACTUALLY DO GOOD. AND SO, UM, THAT'S MY COMMENT. THANK YOU. SO YOU HAD MENTIONED IT EARLIER, DID I, DID I GET THAT RIGHT? CONDUCT A STUDY OF AVALOR TAXES, HOW THEY'RE ASSESSED AND ITS IMPACT OR ASSESSED? OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCILWOMAN? UM, YEAH, I WANNA ECHO THE COMMENTS OF, UH, SOME OF MY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CALLS I GET HAVE TO DO WITH STREETS, SIDEWALKS, AND DRAINAGE. AND, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE WORK ON ALL THE TIME. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO MEET THE NEEDS AND THE, THE DEMANDS OF OUR, OF, OF THE CONSTITUENTS IN THAT SENSE. SO I'M ALSO NOT PREPARED TO, TO SUPPORT, UM, A REDUCTION IN, UM, IN PROPERTY TAX REVENUES RIGHT NOW. I, I MEAN, I THINK IT, IT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT HERE WE ARE IN FLASH FLOOD ALLEY OVER CLAY SOILS. IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE HERE AND TO MAINTAIN IT. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR, FOR, FOR LIVING HERE. UM, MY CONSTITUENTS DID, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM DID TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND SOME OF THEM DID TALK ABOUT, UH, PROPERTY TAXES, BUT IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T SO MUCH THAT THEY'RE YES, THAT THEY'RE PAYING IN PROPERTY TAXES. IT WAS REALLY THE UNPREDICTABILITY OF IT AND HOW UNFAIR IT WAS. UM, THAT'S THE SENSE THAT I GOT FROM THEM, UH, THAT IT WAS KIND OF THIS, UH, BLACK BOX OF HOW, HOW THE PROPERTY TAXES WERE APPRAISED. SO WHAT I DID WAS, UM, SOMETHING THAT SOME OF MY OTHER MEM COUNCIL MEMBERS DID AS WELL, WAS HOST A WORKSHOP ON HOW TO PROTEST YOUR PROPERTY TAXES. AND THAT HAS SAVED PEOPLE MONEY. I TALKED TO A CONSTITUENT TODAY WHOSE, UH, EVALUATION WAS LOWERED BY $20,000. UM, SO THAT I DID WHAT I COULD, WHAT'S WITHIN MY POWER WITHOUT A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE AND WITHOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, REQUIRING A TAX RATE, UM, I'M SORRY, A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TO SAVE PEOPLE MONEY ON THAT. UM, SO I THINK THERE ARE THINGS THAT, THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN, WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW. SO THANK YOU. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU SUPPORTIVE OF CONDUCTING A STUDY OR, OR NO, THE, THE C C R THAT I ALREADY SIGNED. OKAY. WELL, I, I DUNNO, , I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT CCC, SO IF YOU DON'T, I'M SORRY. NO, I'M IN THIS ROOM. YES, I, I AM SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE COUNCILMAN C C R. I DID SIGN IT. THANK YOU. GREAT, THANK YOU COUNCIL. UM, JUST TO, I, I GUESS A SIDE NOTE IS I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THE HOUSING TASK FORCE CAME UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS ON THIS TOO, AND HOW THIS VALUATION AND THE PROPERTY TAXES AND APPRAISALS IMPACT THE AFFORDABLE, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ASPECT. SO THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY FOR ME IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. OTHER COMMENTS, COUNSEL? THANK YOU. UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT I, I, I DON'T SUPPORT THE, THE, THE PROPOSAL TO DO THIS HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH NEED. UH, ON TOP OF THAT. I THINK WHAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF IS PROVIDING A LOT OF SUPPORT IN THIS UPCOMING LEGISLATURE TO TALK ABOUT REAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF. AND THAT'S, THAT'S AT THE STATE LEGISLATURE. THE FACT IS THAT, THAT THE STATE HAS KICKED OVER ALL ITS RESPONSIBILITIES FOR EDUCATION OVER THE PROPERTY TAXES, AND WE'RE ALL FEELING IT. AND SO WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO CREATE A GOOD COMMUNICATIONS PACKAGE AND A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA THAT IS GONNA SUPPORT LEGISLATORS UP IN, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, IN, IN AUSTIN TO, TO REALLY TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. IT'S, IT'S ONLY GONNA GET WORSE. AND SO WHEN I SEE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE CREATING THIS RELIEF OF ONLY A FEW DOLLARS HERE AND THERE, IT'S, IT'S GONNA DISAPPEAR ME QUICKLY BECAUSE WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE TREND. IT'S SPIRALING DOWNWARDS. AND SO THIS, THIS IS NOT A FIX. UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT, WHAT IS TRYING TO BE ATTEMPTED HERE, BUT WE SPENT MOST OF THE DAY TALKING ABOUT ALL THE NEEDS AND ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO, TO SOLVING A LOT OF THEM. SO I, I CERTAINLY DON'T SUPPORT, UH, SOMETHING THAT, THAT CAN REALLY, UM, AFFECT SOME, SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY THAT, THAT ARE HELPING PEOPLE AND HELP AND HELP TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF MANY OF THOSE THAT ARE, THAT ARE CERTAINLY STRUGGLING. SO, UM, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE CAN PUT SOME OF OUR MONEY INTO, UH, A STRONG LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. THANK YOU. [05:45:01] I, UH, YOU, YOU CALLED FOR A CONSENSUS CONVERSATION ON THE PROPERTY TAX CITY HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. I'D LIKE TO OFFER THE SAME COURTESY TO THE EXEMPTION FOR MILITARY VETERANS, DISABLED VETERANS. I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT MY MEMBERS MEMBER BY MEMBER STAND ON THAT. I, I, I MEAN, THAT'S A REDUCTION IN TAXES FOR A PARTICULAR SET OF HEROES IN OUR COMMUNITY. PEOPLE WHO ARE DISABLED AS A RESULT OF COMBAT SCENARIOS. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM AND OFFER THE SAME RESPECT THAT YOU CALLED THAT. SURE. LET'S CALL IT ON THAT ONE AND SEE WHERE PEOPLE STAND ON THAT. EVERYONE CARE TO WEIGH IN ON, UH, PROPERTY TAX FOR, FOR SPECIFICALLY FOR DISABLED VETERANS. FOR DISABLED VETERANS, COUNCILMAN? SURE. I'LL CHIME IN ON THAT. I AM A VETERAN AND I, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF TAKING A LOOK AT THAT, EVALUATING WHAT WOULD BE THE COST, HOW WE COULD IMPLEMENT THAT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, TO CONSIDER. UH, BUT SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE ARE SAYING, UH, I DON'T LIKE MY TAXES BECAUSE IT'S JUST GOES INTO A BLACK HOLE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO IT. IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY. AND, UH, I'VE TRIED TO FIGHT THAT IN MY DISTRICT, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE SOME OF YOU TO THINK THE SAME THING. YOU KNOW, WE'VE CREATED, UH, OUR, I'M, I'M GONNA THROW A FLAG HERE. 'CAUSE COUNCILMAN BROADCAST MADE A RESPECTFUL REQUEST TO, TO HEAR IF THERE WAS OR WASN'T SUPPORT. SO BEFORE WE MOVE OFF THE, OKAY, THE, THE TOPIC OF REDUCTIONS FOR DISABLED VETERANS, I WANNA MAKE SURE WE HONOR THAT REQUEST. COUNCILMAN, I WOULD LOVE TO ENTERTAIN THAT, THAT QUESTION BECAUSE I WOULD SUPPORT IT, BUT CURRENTLY I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT IN, IN PLAY. I THINK IT'S IMPLEMENTED TODAY. WE, WE OFFER $12,500, WHICH IS THE LOWEST OF ANY MAJOR, ANY LARGE CITY IN THE STATE OF TEXAS. THE CLOSEST ONE TO US IS 40,000 CORPUS, OR I THINK OFFERS 40. I'M, I'M SAYING WHAT WE'RE OFFERING IS WOEFULLY INADEQUATE NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATELY INCREASED TO BE COMMENSURATE WITH THE, UH, THE, THE SOLDIERS OR THE AIRMEN, WHOEVER IT IS WITH THE VETERANS DISABILITY PERCENTAGE. SO IF THEY'RE 10%, THEY GET 10%. IF THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT DISABLED, THEY GET A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THEIR CITY TAXES EXEMPTED. SO DEPENDING ON THE LEVEL OF DISABILITY, THEY GET IT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY 12,500 BUCKS. HOUSTON'S LIKE 160,000, I THINK, IF I REMEMBER THE CHART CORRECTLY. COUNCIL, YEAH. COUNCILMAN, I THINK THIS IS A, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO REALLY, UH, HAVE PRECISE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY EASY TO ABSOLUTELY SAY YES TO. AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO IT. UM, SO IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. WHO'S SOMEBODY WHO'S NOT ONLY A VETERAN, BUT UH, IS DISABLED, UM, HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET MORE RELIEF IN THAT WAY. SO, UH, DO WE KNOW ABOUT THE STATE, UH, PARAMETERS HERE, ABOUT THE CITIES GOING AND DOING THINGS LIKE THAT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN CARVE OUT? 'CAUSE I'M STILL, UH, THE, THE RESISTANCE THAT I HAVE TO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION ON WHOLE IS THAT IT IS, IT IS CARP BLANCHE THAT WE REALLY CAN'T DO A LOT OF THIS CARVING OUT. AND SO IF WE CAN DO IT, LET'S BRING IT FORWARD AS A PROPOSAL FOR AN OPTION. UH, BUT WE JUST NEED TO KNOW BEFORE THE CONVERSATION STARTS. GREAT. OFFER AN ADDITIONAL EXEMPTION JUST FOR DISABLED VETERANS. WE CAN DO IT FOR DISABLED PERSONS. SO THAT, UM, 12,000, UM, I DON'T HAVE MY CHART WITH ME THAT I SHOWED YOU ON THE OPTIONAL PIECE. IT'S FOR DISABLED PERSONS, SO IT COULD BE VETERAN OR OTHERWISE. THE STATE SPECIFICALLY DOES ONE FOR DISABLED VETERANS. OKAY. SO, BUT YOUR CHART SAID IT WAS DISABLED VETERANS, I THOUGHT. NO, UM, NO, IT SAYS DISABLED EXEMPTION. PULL THAT BACK UP. I'M SORRY. I, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER. I KNOW. OKAY, SO DISABLED EXEMPTION. OKAY. WELL, I MEAN, LOOK, I, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO CARVE OUT FOR DISABLED VETERANS AT THAT POINT. IF THE STATE OFFERS IT, AND IT'S IN THE TEXAS STATE CONSTITUTION, IT DOESN'T ALLOW HOMEROOM MUNICIPALITY TO DO THE SAME. UH, APPARENTLY IT'S JUST, UM, THE STATE HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. SO THEY'VE GOT A STATE MANDATED EXEMPTION FOR ANY DISABLED VETERAN. WE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL HAVE THE OPTION TO ADD TO THAT AND DO, UH, UH, AN EXEMPTION FOR DISABLED PERSONS. AND THAT'S WHAT OURS IS AT THE 12,500. OKAY. WELL, AT, AT, AT THAT RATE THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE TO EXAMINE WHAT THAT IMPACT IS THEN, BECAUSE IT IS, THAT IS TARGETED, STILL TARGETED, RIGHT? A DISABLED PERSON. I MEAN, AT THAT POINT IT BECOMES A PERCENTAGE. IT, YOU KNOW, CAN MOVE FURTHER AWAY FROM 10, 20, 30% ON A MILITARY VETERAN. I STILL LIKE TO RESEARCH THAT PERIOD, UM, IN THE TEXAS CONSTITUTION. WHY IF A HOMEROOM MUNICIPALITY CAN DO THAT, IF WE CAN CARVE IT OUT, THAT'S WORTH A DEBATE, OR AT LEAST THE RESEARCH. BUT, AND, AND THERE'S SUPPORT FOR FIRST I THINK WE NEED TO EXPAND AND AT THAT POINT'S, EXPANDING THE DISABILITY EXEMPTION TO A MUCH, MAYBE NOT A FULL EXEMPTION, BUT SOMETHING THAT MIRRORS WHAT ELSE IS HAPPENING IN THE STATE. 'CAUSE OUR DISABILITY EXEMPTION IS STILL ACROSS THE BOARD INADEQUATE. GREAT. YEAH, THAT DEFINITELY HAS SUPPORT COUNCIL, I CONCUR, COUNCILMAN. YEAH. AGAIN, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT IDEA AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE DATA PROVES OUT THAT WE CAN DO AND SHOULD DO, I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF IT. SO I'LL, I'LL HAVE THAT CONVERSATION ANYTIME. GREAT. VERY NICE. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. [05:50:04] YEAH. AND THE, THE, THE PROPERTY TAX CONVERSATIONS IS AT ONCE VERY SIMPLE AND VERY COMPLEX AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING GOOD FAITH EFFORT. WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UH, AS WE STARTED THE CONVERSATION, HOMEOWNERS IN SAN ANTONIO ARE INCREASINGLY COST BURDEN AND THE PROPERTY TAX SHARE IS A LARGE PART OF THAT. THE GOOD FAITH EFFORT THAT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN EMBARK ON THOUGH IS A LITTLE BIT OF TRUTH IN TAXATION. AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THE LEGISLATURE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE LARGE INCREASE IN TAX ON, ON, ON PEOPLE'S PROPERTIES. AND THE CHART THAT SHOWED THE STATE CONTINUING TO BACK AWAY FROM ITS SHARE OF FUNDING FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHERE 85% OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE EDUCATED IS BEING MADE UP BY LOCAL TAXING JURISDICTIONS AT, AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT LEVEL, UH, WHICH HAVE TO CONTINUE TO FUND, UH, BOOKS ON THE DESKS AND TEACHERS AND CLASSROOMS AND FACILITIES OVER PEOPLE'S HEADS. UM, I WANNA OFFER TAX RELIEF FOR SAN ANTONIO. UM, I WANT TO DO IT IN A MEANINGFUL WAY, BUT THE SYMBOLICS OF, UH, A, UH, $5,000 EXEMPTION OR, OR THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OFFERED SO FAR WOULD HAVE TO COME AT A COST AS COUNCILMAN SHAW IS SAYING. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, I'M LOOKING AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE PIE CHART OR ANY OF THE BUDGET, UH, BOOKS THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND THE REDUCTION IN THE EXPENSES. UH, IN THIS CASE, A $5,000 EXEMPTION WOULD REQUIRE SIX PLUS MILLION DOLLAR, UH, FIND WITHIN THE BUDGET TO REDUCE, UH, IS GOING TO COME AT THE EXPENSE OF SOME BASIC SERVICES THAT PEOPLE EX EXPECT FROM OUR COMMUNITY. A GROWING COMMUNITY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UM, BRINGING AN ADDITIONAL 24,000 PEOPLE PLUS, UH, EVERY SINGLE YEAR. UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT DISABLED VETERANS. I AGREE WITH THAT. IF THERE IS A COMMUNITY THAT SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE RELIEF FOR DISABLED VETERANS, IT IS SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. AND I WOULD EXPECT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE TO TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN SALANA AND HIS ROLE AS CHAIR CHAIRMAN OF THE I G R HAS BROUGHT TOGETHER THE SUPERINTENDENTS OF OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR THE FIRST TIME TO FIGURE OUT A WAY WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AS A LOCAL ENTITY TO WORK WITH OUR DELEGATION, UH, TO FIND OUT WAYS WE CAN MEANINGFULLY REDUCE PROPERTY TAXES IN SAN ANTONIO. BUT WHEN I GET EMAILS FROM FOLKS WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM BECAUSE I'M A TAXPAYER TOO. UM, THE CHALLENGE IS WHEN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, IS EXPECTED TO DELIVER THE SERVICES THAT PEOPLE NEED FROM POLICE AND FIRE TO STREETS AND LIBRARIES AND DRAINAGE AND PARKS AND SO FORTH. UM, AND WE ONLY, UH, ACCOUNT FOR A FIFTH OF THE PROPERTY TAX BILL WHEN WE REDUCE, UH, THE PROPERTY TAX BURDEN ARTIFICIALLY JUST TO, TO HAVE THE SYMBOLICS OF IT WHEN THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS KEEP IT THE SAME WITH THE APPRAISALS GOING UP, OR IN SOME CASES POTENTIALLY EVEN RAISE THEIR RATES. IT IS THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE GONNA GET THE EMAILS ASKING WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY DID YOU RAISE MY TAXES? EVEN THOUGH OVER THE LAST 25 YEARS, WE HAVE REDUCED THE TAX RATE T SEVEN TIMES AND WE'VE ADDED EXEMPTIONS, UM, THAT ARE FAR SURPASSING ANY OTHER TEXAS CITY. UM, THE SENIOR TAX FREEZE GOES FAR AND ABOVE ANY CITY IN THIS STATE. SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOU WHEN, WHEN A CITIZEN COMES UP TO YOU AND ASKS YOU ABOUT THE BURDEN OF PROPERTY TAXES AND, AND REALLY HAS CONCERNS ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE IT IS, DRIVING PEOPLE, UH, AWAY FROM HOME OWNERSHIP. WE TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHY THAT IS, AND WE ASK THEM TO WORK WITH US TO HELP CHANGE THE CONVERSATION AT THE LEGISLATURE TO HELP US FUND SCHOOLS, FUND OUR BASIC SERVICES, AND STOP PLAYING GAMES WITH OUR TAXES. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS? NO, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE AT THE END OF THE INTERNET FRIENDS. UH, SO AS WE LOOK AT, AT THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE TODAY, AGAIN, UH, REMEMBER THIS IS NOT THE BUDGET, RIGHT? THIS IS JUST GUIDANCE TO THE CITY STAFF TO BEGIN TO, TO FRAME OUT OPTIONS AND SCENARIOS THAT YOU THEN WILL HAVE ALL OF YOUR DELIGHTFUL AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER TO, UH, TO NEGOTIATE HACK AT, DIG IN DEEPER, BUT IT GIVES 'EM A, A PRETTY HEALTHY BODY OF WORK OF SOME THINGS, UH, TO DIG INTO AND COME BACK TO YOU FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. [05:55:01] SO, JUST TO SUMMARIZE, UH, THE, THE THEMES THAT THAT REALLY EMERGED FROM TODAY, UH, HOUSING A BIG PRIORITY. THE, THE AREA WHERE WE HAD THE MOST, UH, DISCUSSION BETWEEN AND AMONG THE GROUP, UH, IN VERY ROUGH TERMS, UH, BEGIN TO HOLD SOME SPACE IN THE BUDGET FOR THE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS, ABSOLUTELY RECOGNIZING THAT BEFORE THAT WAS ACTUALLY EXECUTED, COUNSEL WOULD WANT TO, UH, GET VERY FAMILIAR WITH AND DELIBERATE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS BEFORE, UH, ANY, UH, FUNDING TO THAT RESPECT WAS ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATED. AND THEN FROM THEN FROM THERE, THE DISCUSSION OF, OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, A LOT OF GREAT DIALOGUE, BUT REALLY COMING DOWN ON THE SIDE OF, OF INCREASING THE NUMBER OF, OF POLICE OFFICERS, UH, DESPITE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONTINUING WORK TO GET TO A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED TO START MOVING THAT TRAJECTORY UP TO BE READY FOR THE GROWTH THAT'S COMING. AS WELL AS SOME GREAT CONVERSATIONS, UH, AROUND HOW ARE WE LOOKING, UH, AT OTHER THINGS LIKE MENTAL HEALTH, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WHICH HAS SPAWNED OFF IN THAT, IN THAT RESPECT, UH, AS ITS OWN, UH, PRIORITY COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIES FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, WOMEN, CHILDREN, DOMESTIC PARTNERS. UH, WE TALKED ABOUT, UH, COMPENSATION AND, AND COST OF LIVING FUNDING FOR BOTH, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO EMPLOYEES, AS WELL AS, UH, LOOKING AT COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS, UH, FOR, UH, CITY OR FOR COUNCIL AIDS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HOLD ON TO TOP DOWN TALENT IN THAT AREA AS WELL. UH, CERTAINLY WE TALKED AT LENGTH ABOUT STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. THE, THE CRITICAL MASS SEEMED TO BE AROUND MOVING FORWARD WITH, WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING RECOMMENDATION, WITH AN ABSOLUTE COMMITMENT TO TAKING THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDING AND TARGETING BASED ON HIGHEST NEED REGARDLESS OF DISTRICT. SO NOT USING A DISTRICT FILTER OR, YOU KNOW, TOP FIVE, BOTTOM FIVE DISTRICT FILTER IN APPLYING THAT ASSISTANCE TO THOSE, THOSE F LEVEL STREETS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. UM, AND THEN, UH, REALLY AS, AS MIKE SHARED, UH, DEVELOPING THAT SIDEWALK MASTER PLAN. SO WE REALLY PUT IT IN CONTEXT, WHICH IS WORK ALREADY ONGOING AND INCREASING OUR INVESTMENT IN START TRAFFIC, SMART TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS. UH, AND THEN FINALLY, UH, TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY TAXES. UH, A WILLINGNESS TO REALLY STUDY IT FURTHER AND LOOK AT LEGISLATIVE REMEDIES AND, AND GET AN INDEPENDENT ASSESSMENT OF THE, THE CITY'S CURRENT, UH, TAXING SCHEME AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES, UH, FOR IMPROVEMENT ARE. UH, AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, THE, THE ASK TO, UH, TO GET A MORE THOROUGH ACCOUNTING FROM CITY STAFF AS TO HOW IN PRACTICE WE'VE BEEN APPLYING THE EQUITY LENS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A GROUNDED CONVERSATION ABOUT ARE THERE AVENUES, UH, TO, UH, TO REFINE IT IN A WAY THAT THAT REALLY WORKS FOR, UH, THE WHOLE CITY. UM, SO THAT IS THE DISCUSSION. AND SO I'D, I'D ASK THE GROUP, DO YOU FEEL, UH, LIKE WHAT WE'VE, UH, CAPTURED IN THAT IS AN ACCURATE REFLECTION OF THE CONVERSATION THAT, THAT YOU WERE ALL A PART OF TODAY? START SLOW. WE GOT THERE. SO IF I COULD ASK YOU TO HIT YOUR MICS ONE LAST TIME. THE START IS SLOW, BUT WE GOT THERE. THANK YOU. GREAT ADDITIONAL COMMENT. THERE'S STILL A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, BUT WE'LL DO THAT LATER. YEAH. THANK YOU. CERTAINLY. AND AS WE SAID, THIS IS NO REPLACEMENT FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE BUDGET. PROCESS'S GONNA COME INTO MINDSET. F I'LL JUST SAY IS MY EIGHTH AND FINAL ONE. YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO THREAD THE NEEDLE BETTER THAN MOST FOLKS I'VE SEEN DO THIS, INCLUDING A VERSION OF YOURSELF THE LAST TWO YEARS. SO, GREAT JOB. THANK YOU, SIR. APPRECIATE THAT. VERY KIND ADDITIONAL COMMENT, JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, BECAUSE ON THE HOMESTEAD CONVERSATION, WHICH WAS A LARGE PART OF TODAY, UH, WE NEEDED DIRECTION TODAY. IF WE WERE TO GO FORWARD TO PLACE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA FOR COUNCIL ACTION BEFORE JULY ONE. I DID NOT HEAR, UH, THE COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO DO THAT. WE HEARD A, A NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS, BUT THERE WASN'T DIRECTION TO PURSUE THAT, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL ACTION AT A MEETING PRIOR TO JULY ONE. SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT PURSUING, I THERE WAS NOT CRITICAL MASS TO PURSUE THAT, RIGHT. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, COUNCILMAN? WELL, UM, AS FAR AS CRITICAL MASS, I'M NOT SURE WHAT CRITICAL MASS IS, BUT, UM, I THINK THIS, THERE WAS ENOUGH DISCUSSION HERE TODAY TO BRING IT FORWARD TO ANOTHER MEETING, UH, WHETHER IT'S A B SESSION OR WHATEVER, TO DISCUSS IT FURTHER, UH, BEFORE [06:00:01] THE JULY 1ST DEADLINE. UM, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF COMMENTS HERE. A LOT OF, THERE WAS SOME, WELL THERE. LET'S SEE WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS. LET'S, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THE NUMBERS SHOW. UH, SO I, I THINK IF YOU COMBINE THAT WITH, UM, THE SUPPORT THAT WAS GIVEN OUT THERE, I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S ENOUGH THERE TO CARRY THAT CONVERSATION FORWARD. CERTAINLY TURN THAT TO THE, I JUST ASK, ASK THE COUNCIL, DO OTHERS OF YOU WANT TO HAVE A B SESSION BEFORE JULY ONE ON THIS ISSUE? WE HAVE THREE B SESSIONS, TWO OF WHICH ARE, I THINK WE ALREADY HAVE ITEMS UNLESS YOU WANT IT MOVED. DO YOU WANT THIS ON COUNCIL AGENDA IN JUNE? YES, I WOULD LIKE IT. SO I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST COMMENT IT IN THE OPPOSITE NEGATIVE. I DO NOT WANT IT BEFORE JULY ONE. I THINK WE HAVE A LOT TO PLAN FOR THAT. UH, WE DON'T NEED TO STILL HAVE UP IN THE AIR WHETHER WE'RE GONNA HAVE LESS REVENUE COME TO THE CITY. I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAJOR ISSUES THAT WILL REQUIRE MORE REVENUE. AND FOR THAT REASON, I THINK WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE VERY SERIOUS, UH, WITH OUR EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER AND BE VERY SERIOUS IN OUR DIRECTION TO THE STAFF THAT THERE IS THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FUND AND SUPPORT. SO I'LL JUST MAKE THAT COMMENT. COUNCILMAN PERRY IS SUPPORTIVE AS I AM. I DON'T SEE THAT WE'VE GOT ENOUGH SUPPORT TO, UH, ACTUALLY HAVE THIS HAPPEN, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT AS WELL. YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M WITH IT, SO I'M LIKE ANOTHER TWO TO NINE VENTURE THERE, BUT HEY, IT'S ALL GOOD. BUT I THINK WE, I THINK WHAT HE'S BRINGING UP IS THE WORTHWHILE CONVERSATION. WE'RE THERE'S TENS OF THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS WHO WANT THIS CONVERSATION TO BE HAD IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC AND WITH HARD CONCRETE DATA AND FACTS, WE HEAR A LOT ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THAT. I DO THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY YOU CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION WHILE ALSO DISCUSSING WHAT NEEDS TO BE CUT TO GET IT DONE, AND FAIR BELT TIGHTENING, TRIMMING THE FAT TYPE, BUDGETARY A HARD LOOK AT THOSE THINGS. I MEAN, IF YOU'RE GONNA OFFER THAT THE SAME WAY, YOU MAY HAVE TO PUT UP A, A POLICE SUBSTATION SOMEWHERE, SOMETHING'S GONNA HAVE TO BE REDUCED. AND I'M OKAY WITH THAT CONVERSATION, WHICH I CAN SEE US HAVING THAT CONVERSATION. AND HERE'S THE REDUCTION. SO LET'S HAVE THE SESSION ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE REDUCED OR WHAT'S OVERKILL, WHAT WE'RE DOING AT THE CITY OR OUT OF THE CORE SERVICES. SO WE CAN FUND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE BIG TICKET ITEMS LIKE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF AND OR, UM, AS POLICE SUBSTATION, I'M HOPING FOR THOSE CONVERSATIONS, IF SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE CUT, LET'S DO IT. AND AS A, AS A CLARIFICATION, THERE ABSOLUTELY WAS SUPPORT FROM COUNSEL TO CONDUCT SOME STUDIES TO GET DATA TO INFORM THAT CONVERSATION IN THE FUTURE. SO IT WAS NOT DISMISSED, BUT RATHER WE NEED DATA AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. AND SO THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE CONCURRENT WITH A NOT BEFORE JULY ONE. YES, CHERYL? SO YOU ASKED A SPECIFIC QUESTION. I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GET A SPECIFIC ANSWER FROM ME. I'M, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF HAVING A PRESENTATION AT B SESSION, BUT I WANNA HAVE A COMPLETE CONVERSATION INFORMED BY THE DATA THAT, YOU KNOW, I'M PROPOSING THAT WE COLLECT BY WAY OF THAT STUDY. AND SO, UM, I'LL HAVE A HOME, I MEAN A HOMESTEAD CONVERSATION IF YOU THINK YOU CAN GET ME THAT DATA BY, YOU KNOW, JULY 1ST OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, I'M HAPPY, I DOUBT IT. UH, BUT, UH, AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT I DON'T SUPPORT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EFFORT. I JUST REALLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM FROM ALL ANGLES. THANK YOU, COUNCIL. UH, AS IT STANDS NOW, I'M NOT CURRENTLY CURRENTLY READY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION IN THE B SESSION BEFORE JULY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DATA, UM, SOMETIME IN THE, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE, BUT THIS IS GONNA BE A ROBUST, IN-DEPTH, PROFOUND DISCUSSION, WHICH WILL NOT BE ABLE TO COME TO A CONSENSUS BEFORE JULY ONE. SO, UM, I'M NOT WILLING TO MOVE IN FAVOR OF, OF, UH, HEARING THIS ANYTIME SOON UNTIL WE GET THE APPROPRIATE DATA. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FRANCISCO. UM, I'M NOT SUPPORTIVE AND WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO, TO DO, UH, AS JUST POINTED OUT ON THAT BOARD, UH, AMONGST MANY THINGS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, STAFF ALREADY KNOWS WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE CHASING. SO, UH, WE, WE REALLY NEED TO GET ON WITH, WITH THE OTHER WORK AND THE WORK OF THE BUDGET. SO, UH, NOT SUPPORTIVE OF, OF, OF SPENDING MORE TIME ON THIS. UH, I THINK WE NEED, WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON. ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN TO THE MAYOR FOR CLOSING COMMENTS. YEAH, WELL, UH, I THINK WHAT EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, IT CAN BE SAID, BUT, UM, NO, THANK YOU FRANCISCO FOR, UH, A GREAT CONVERSATION TODAY. THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR, UH, YOUR ACTIVE PARTICIPATION IN BEING WILLING TO STAY LATE INTO THE NIGHT, IF NECESSARY, TO HAVE, UH, A CONVERSATION ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS. UM, I DON'T THINK WE CAN, UH, [06:05:02] UNDERSTATE OR OVERSTATE THE, THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US WITH THE AMOUNT OF GROWTH THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING AS A COMMUNITY AND THE ISSUES OF, UH, INEQUITY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS HISTORICALLY IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS IT RELATES TO BASIC SERVICES OR AS IT RELATES TO, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEW CHALLENGES THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN A PRIORITY FOR SAN ANTONIO BEFORE, SUCH AS HOUSING. UM, AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE BUDGET, I ASK THAT YOU KEEP YOUR, UH, YOUR MIND OPEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS FEEDBACK AND REPORT THAT BACK TO THE STAFF. BUT I THINK WE HAD A GREAT CONVERSATION TODAY TO PROVIDE SOME GOOD DIRECTION, UH, FOR THE CITY MOVING FORWARD. SO HAVE A GREAT, UH, HAVE A GREAT EVENING. THANK YOU, FRANCISCO. THANK YOU. YOU DO, YOU'RE GONNA DO NOTES, RIGHT? YES. CAN YOU SEND EMAIL ME THE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.