* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:03] SINCE FEBRUARY, MADAM CLERK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. COUNCIL MEMBER . COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE AND CHAIR CABERA HDA. HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. BEFORE WE BEGIN THE PRESENTATION AND OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, I'D [1. 20-3740 Invocation] LIKE TO START WITH AN AN INVOCATION. UM, WE HAVE A SECOND. WE HAVE A, A GENTLEMAN THAT'S COME TO, TO PERFORM THE INVOCATION FOR US. BROTHER SEAN PRICE IS RECOGNIZED FOR HIS MINISTRY WITH THE NORTHEAST CHURCH OF CHRIST. HE IS ALSO THE DIRECTOR OF THE WEST SIDE FOOD DISTRIBUTION INITIATIVE. HE CO-FOUNDED THE WEST END HOPE IN ACTION ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS A COALITION OF COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS WHO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF SAN ANTONIO THROUGH COMMUNITY OUTREACH. BROTHER PRICE, THROUGH HIS MINISTRY AND MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKING PROMOTES COMMUNITY ORGANIZING THAT ENHANCES THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF SAN ANTONIO. BROTHER SEAN PER, UH, PRICE PRO PROMOTES A SELF AND WELCOMING COMMUNITY WHERE FAMILIES THRIVE TO PROMOTE PEACE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU, BROTHER. PRICE. I APPRECIATE THE INTRODUCTION. UM, AT THIS TIME, WILL YOU ALL PLEASE BOW WITH ME? OUR GOD, OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. HOW MASTER IS YOUR NAME THROUGHOUT ALL THE EARTH? GOD, WE COME TO YOU AT THIS TIME IN THE MOST REVEREND WAY, THAT WE KNOW THAT IT IS HAVING BOWHEAD AND HUMBLE HEARTS WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT YOU ARE GOD. AND BESIDES LEAD, THERE IS NONE HIGHER. AND WITH THAT IN MIND, FATHER, IT IS FOR THIS REASON THAT WE BOW AND INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR INFLUENCE UPON THIS DISCUSSION, PRAYING THAT IT WILL CREATE THE PROPER DECORUM THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO RENDER WISE AND PRUDENT DECISIONS AS IT RELATES TO THIS VOLATILE SCENARIO OF PUBLIC SAFETY. FATHER, WE RECOGNIZE AND IDENTIFY THAT THERE IS A TIME TO BE EMOTIONAL AND A TIME TO BE STRATEGIC. AND IT IS OUR PRAYER TO BE PUT FORTH A NICE BALANCE OF BOTH OF THOSE AS WE DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO PROVIDE A SENSE OF CONFIDENCE AND HEALING FOR OUR COMMUNITY. NOW, FATHER, AS ALWAYS, WE PRAY THAT WE DEMONSTRATE A SPIRIT OF UNITY, THAT WE DO ALL THAT WE CAN TO WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM, AND THAT THE END RESULT WILL BRING YOU GLORY IN THE END. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR LOVE, FOR YOUR COMPASSION, FOR YOUR PROTECTION, AND FOR THE GREAT THAT YOU OFFER TO US EACH AND EVERY SINGLE DAY. NUMB ME THE WORD TO MY MOUTH AND THE MEDITATION OF OUR HEARTS BE ACCEPTABLE THY SIDE, OH LORD, MY STRENGTH AND MY REDEEMER. WE ASK THIS IN ALL THINGS. IN THE NAME OF YOUR SON, JESUS CHRIST, THE LORD, PRAY. AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO STAND IN AGREEMENT, YOU MAY RESPOND BY SIMPLY SAYING AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU BROTHER CHRIST. AH-HUH . THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE THOSE INSPIRING WORDS. AMEN. AMEN. THE FIRST [2. 20-2587 Approval of the February 18, 2020 Public Safety Committee Minutes] ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR FEBRUARY 18TH, 2020 MEETING. AFTER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES, I WILL THEN EXPLAIN THE FORMAT OF TODAY'S MEETING. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE? FEBRUARY 18TH, MEETING MINUTES. MOTION TO APPROVE. A MOTION HAS BEEN MADE. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND WITH A MOTION AND SECOND BEING MADE. ALL MEMBERS PLEASE VOTE. AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. MADAM CLERK? AYE. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK, PLEASE NOTE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES NOTED. THANK YOU. THANK [3. 20-3741 Briefing on the San Antonio Police Department’s legal framework for employment of San Antonio Police Officers to provide the Public Safety Committee and the community a foundation to develop and evaluate potential reforms. [Elizabeth Provencio, Assistant City Attorney]] YOU. TODAY'S MEETING IS THE FIRST OF MANY TO ADDRESS THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS REGARDING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND LAW ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES. THE FORMAT OF TODAY'S MEETING WILL START WITH A PRESENTATION FROM ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY ELIZABETH PROVENCIO REGARDING THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT'S LEGAL FRAMEWORK FOR EMPLOYMENT OF SAN ANTONIO, POLICE OFFICERS TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THE COMMITTEE AND THE COMMUNITY, A FOUNDATION TO DEVELOP AND EVALUATE POTENTIAL REFORMS, WHICH WILL THEN BE FOLLOWED BY QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. AFTER THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS' QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, WE WILL THEN OPEN THE FLOOR FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS. CITIZENS WILL BE [00:05:01] CALLED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES FOR REMARKS. AFTER THE LIVE COMMENTS, THE CLERK WILL THEN READ WRITTEN COMMENTS SUBMITTED VIA VOICEMAIL, EMAIL, AND IN PERSON IN VARIOUS FORMS. I'VE BEEN HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY DO NOT FEEL HEARD ON ISSUES SURROUNDING PUBLIC SAFETY. BEFORE I START MAKING DECISIONS IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY, I TOOK THE DIRECTION OF THE PEOPLE AND MAKING SURE TO OFFER OPPORTUNITIES TO BE HEARD. IT IS IN THAT SPIRIT THAT OUR REQUEST REQUESTED THESE LISTENING SESSIONS, I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. THERE ARE DIFFERENT FRAMEWORKS THAT WE CAN WORK FROM, BUT EIGHT CAN'T WAIT IS A CAMPAIGN TO AFFECT REAL CHANGE. BEGINNING NEXT SATURDAY, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WILL BE TAKING UP THE EIGHT CAN'T WAIT FACTORS WITH THE GOAL OF CURTAILING POLICE VIOLENCE. NOW THAT THE FORMAT OF THE MEETING HAS BEEN EXPLAINED, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME ELIZABETH PROVENCIO TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN. AND THANK YOU, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE HERE TODAY. WE HAVE A SHORT RECAP OF THE PRESENTATION TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE FRAMEWORK AND JUST TO REITERATE THE PARAMETERS WITHIN WHICH THAT WE WORK FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS. AND I AM GOING TO PULL, ASK THAT THAT BE PULLED UP. I AM WORKING ON IT. SORRY, . THANK YOU. SO AS WE GET STARTED, YOU'LL RECALL THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, ELEMENTS THAT MAKE UP THE STATUTORY FRAMEWORK THAT WE WORK WITHIN FOR OUR PD, UM, AND THE OFFICERS THAT WE EMPLOY HERE AT THE CITY. UM, THAT IS CHAPTER 1 43 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. THAT'S, UM, WHAT IS REFERRED TO AS CIVIL SERVICE OR CHAPTER 1 43. AND THAT WAS ADOPTED BY VOTERS IN SAN ANTONIO IN 1947. THEN WE HAVE CHAPTER 1 74, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING STATUTE, AND THAT WAS ADOPTED BY VOTERS IN 1974. AND THEN AS A RESULT OF THE TWO OF THOSE, WE HAVE THEN WHAT IS OUR LABOR AGREEMENT, OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, UM, WITH EACH OF OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UNIONS. BUT OF COURSE, TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR AGREEMENT WITH THE, UH, POLICE OFFICERS AND, AND EFFECTIVELY WHAT THAT FRAMES FOR US. SO, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO, AS WE THINK ABOUT CHAPTER 1 43 AND CIVIL SERVICE FOR OUR POLICE OFFICERS, IT SETS OUT THE REQUIREMENTS. SO THE VERY SPECIFIC TERMS FOR HIRING, PROMOTIONS, DISCIPLINE, AND UP TO AND INCLUDING TERMINATION. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS ADOPTED BY VOTERS IN 1947 HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. AND AS A RESULT, THE STATUTE HAS A REPEAL PROVISION THAT WOULD ALSO BE POTENTIALLY TRIGGERED BY A PETITION, UM, AND POTENTIALLY AS A RESULT OF THAT, A VOTE BY SAN ANTONIO VOTERS FOR POTENTIAL REPEAL. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. . WE THEN, AS A CITY IN 1974, ADOPTED THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING STATUTE. IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, AND IT'S CHAPTER 1 74. AND WHAT IT PROVIDES IS THE ABILITY FOR PUBLIC SAFETY UNIONS TO BE ABLE TO BARGAIN WITH ITS PUBLIC EMPLOYER AND THOSE TERMS THAT OUR BARGAIN THEN CAN REPLACE OR SUPPLANT OR AUGMENT STATE STATUTE. AND SO FOR THOSE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE 1 43 CIVIL SERVICE PROVISIONS, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO AFFECT THOSE THROUGH OUR LABOR, UH, AGREEMENTS WITH, UM, IN THIS INSTANCE OUR POLICE UNION. AND AGAIN, THIS WAS ADOPTED IN 1974, THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO BARGAIN COLLECTIVELY. AND AS A RESULT OF IT BEING A, THROUGH A PETITION PROCESS BY WHICH YOU ADOPT THE CHAPTER, THERE'S ALSO A STATUTORY PROVISION WITHIN CHAPTER 1 74 THAT ALSO PROVIDES FOR A PETITION FOR REPEAL AS WELL. NEXT SLIDE. [00:10:01] AND AS A RESULT OF OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO BARGAIN WITH OUR PUBLIC SAFETY UNIONS, UM, WE DO HAVE CURRENT COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH BOTH AND WITH REGARD TO OUR SS A P O A CONTRACT, UM, THAT PRIMARY TERM WOULD BE EXPIRING NEXT SEPTEMBER OF 2021, UM, WITH ANTICIPATION THAT WE WOULD COME TO THE TABLE IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR TO BEGIN THOSE NEGOTIATIONS. AND AGAIN, THE TERMS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, UM, ARE THOSE WAYS WHERE WE CAN AFFECT 1 43 OR CIVIL SERVICE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE BETTER PROCESSES BY WHICH WE PROMOTE, BY WHICH WE DISCIPLINE. AND, UM, OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO, TO TERMINATE OR ISSUE INDEFINITE SUSPENSIONS THROUGH OUR DIS DISCIPLINARY PROCESS. GOING BACK TO THE BARGAINING PROCESS, UM, IF WE ARE UNABLE TO COME TO AGREEMENT OR WE REACH IMPASSE, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GO TO MEDIATION UNDER STATE LAW. AND BY WAY OF OUR CONTRACT AGREEMENT, THERE IS A, AN IMPASSE PROCESS AS WELL THAT INCLUDES POTENTIAL FACT FINDING BY A THREE PERSON PANEL AND ULTIMATELY POTENTIAL ISSUES THAT MAY GO TO VOTERS. HOWEVER, THAT IMPASSE PROCESS HAS NOT NEVER BEEN USED, UM, IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS WITH, UM, THE POLICE UNION. NEXT SLIDE. SO THAT LOOKS LIKE THE SLIDE WE COVERED RIGHT BEFORE. AND WITH THAT, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THEM. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU, LIZ. I APPRECIATE THE PRESENTATION. UH, JUST A, A CLARIFICATION FOR ME. UM, THE CHAPTER 1 74, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT MAY BE REPEALED UPON PETITION, THAT'S PETITION TO THE STATE. I JUST WANNA CLARIFY. NO, NO, THAT'S ACTUALLY A PETITION, UH, TO, THAT WOULD BE SUBMITTED TO OUR CITY CLERK TO BE PUT ON THE BALLOT. SO IT'S A VOTER INITIATIVE. OH. UM, SO THE, THE STATUTORY PROVISION PROVIDES A MECHANISM BY WHICH SIGNATURES WOULD BE GATHERED, WHAT THAT PERCENTAGE IS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED OF SIGNATURES, AND THEN, UM, WHAT WOULD BE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE IF THERE WERE ENOUGH SIGNATURES THAT WOULD GET THEN GET PLACED ON THE NEXT, UM, ELECTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, COMMITTEE MEMBERS' COMMENTS. I'LL, I'LL JUST GO IN ORDER IF, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, UM, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN JUST SAY PASS, BUT I'LL START WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM, I HAVE ONE QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO THE REPEALING OF CHAPTER 1 43. I KNOW 1 74 IS BY COUNCIL, BUT 1 43, HOW IS THAT ACTUALLY REPEALED? UM, SINCE IT'S MORE OF A STATE STATUTE? YES, MA'AM. SO BOTH STATUTES WOULD GO, UH, BEFORE VOTERS, RIGHT. SO WITH RESPECT TO 1 43 SPECIFICALLY, IT WOULD TAKE 10%, UM, OF THE QUALIFIED VOTERS, WHICH IN OUR INSTANCE WOULD BE 78,415, UM, SIGNATURES ON A PETITION THAT WOULD BE VERIFIED, UH, BY THE CLERK. AND THEN UPON VERIFICATION, UH, WOULD GET PLACED ON THE BALLOT FOR THE NEXT UPCOMING ELECTION. SO THEN VOTERS WOULD DECIDE, UM, THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED FOR REPEAL. UM, AND THEN VOTERS WOULD DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT REPEAL WOULD OCCUR BY WAY OF THE NEXT VOTE IN THE ELECTION. OKAY. SO ONLY ONE GOES THROUGH THE COUNCIL CONSIDERATION PORTION AND THEN THE OTHER ONE GOES DIRECTLY TO THE CITY CLERK. IF I AM, I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY, THEY, THEY BOTH WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS. THEY JUST HAVE DIFFERENT, UM, PERCENTAGE REQUIREMENTS FOR SIGNATURES. SO, UM, IF THERE WAS A PETITION FOR REPEAL OF 1 74, IT WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PROCESS AS 1 43. IT WOULD JUST BE FEWER SIGNATURES. OKAY. AWESOME. AND, UM, LIZ, ARE THESE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN BE REPEALED AT THIS TIME OR ARE THERE OTHER LAWS WITHIN THE JUDICIAL AND LEGAL SYSTEM THAT WE COULD LOOK AT ELLING WITH REGARD TO THE PARAMETERS THAT GOVERN THE TERMS OF EMPLOYMENT WITH OUR OFFICERS? [00:15:01] THESE ARE THE ONLY, THESE ARE THE PRIMARY TWO. I CAN'T THINK OF OTHER TWO. ANY OTHER TWO AT THIS MOMENT. UM, AND SO I, THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, IS YES, THESE ARE THE TWO. UM, BUT IF THERE'S ANY OTHERS THAT COME TO MIND, I'LL CHIME BACK IN. OKAY. AWESOME. THANK YOU MADAM SHERRY, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. ANDREW SULLIVAN, UH, COUNCILWOMAN . UM, HI. YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, IN OUR, IN THE IS QUALIFIED IMMUNITY, UM, COVERED IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, OR IS THAT JUST FOR ANY GOVERNMENTAL OFFICER? LIZ, THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN. IT'S NOT COVERED IN OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT THAT IS FOR ANY GOVERNMENTAL OFFICER THAT'S ESTABLISHED, UM, BY, BY LAW, OUTSIDE OF THE AGREEMENT. RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, IS, IS THERE ANYTHING IN OUR, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW THAT PROHIBITS THE CITY FROM ESTABLISHING AN OUT A THIRD PARTY OUTSIDE, UM, INVESTIGATOR, UH, INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATOR FOR, UM, OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTINGS FOR PURPOSES OF INQUIRING FOR REVIEW AND DISCIPLINE? YES, IT WOULD BE PROHIBITED BY OUR C V A FOR REVIEW AND DISCIPLINE REVIEW OF WHAT ANY OFFICER INVOLVED SHOOTING. WELL, IF WE INTENDED TO USE THE RESULTS OF ANY INVESTIGATION, IT WOULD NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESSES THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE C B A. SO IF WE INTENDED TO BE ABLE TO INCORPORATE THE FINDINGS OF THAT BODY INTO POTENTIAL DISCIPLINE OF AN OFFICER, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS THAT OUR C B A RECOGNIZES. OKAY. AND DO YOU KNOW, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME, COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW, UH, COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND WHAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER IN YOUR PRESENTATION, UH, FOR STATE STATUTE WHEN IT COMES TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENTS? UM, I GUESS WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME MAYBE THE STATE MADE CHANGES OR LOOKED AT IT? DO YOU KNOW, FOR PURPOSES OF CHAPTER 1 74 COUNCILWOMAN, THERE HAVE NOT BEEN RECENT CHANGES. WHEN YOU SAY RECENT, DO YOU MEAN RECENT PAST 10 YEARS? RECENT, LIKE THERE'S NOTHING, BEEN NOTHING SINCE THE SEVENTIES OR EIGHTIES. I WOULD SAY AT LEAST 10 YEARS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. AND, UM, I THINK, SO I, WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO OTHER, FOR, FOR MY COLLEAGUES, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS IN, IN, UH, NEW YORK, DETROIT, LOS ANGELES, MINNEAPOLIS, OTHER CITIES. AND SOME OF THESE CITIES HAVE CONSENT DECREES THAT THEY'VE HAD TO IMPLEMENT. UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS IS ALSO CHARTER REVIEWS AND, UM, AN ESTABLISHMENT OF, OF JUST DIFFERENT IDEAS THERE. AND I JUST WANTED TO SHARE, TO SHARE THAT WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THAT, UM, GET GATHERING INFORMATION OF DIFFERENT CONSENT DECREES AND ITEMS THAT OTHER, UM, LOCALES HAVE BEEN, HAVE HAD TO PUT TOGETHER. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION. I, I KNOW IT WAS BROUGHT UP, I DON'T KNOW, LIZ, IF THIS IS YOU OR, UM, ANYBODY ELSE WHO CAN ANSWER THIS, WHAT WAS BROUGHT UP, I THINK IT WAS LAST WEEK, THURSDAY, ABOUT, UM, A DATABASE OF MAYBE OFFICERS WHO WERE FIRED FROM SS A P D OR OTHER JURISDICTIONS AND HAVING A DATABASE THAT'S COMPILED WITH ALL OF THE KIND OF THE RECORDS OF OTHERS IN OTHER LOCATIONS. DO WE, CAN WE PUT TOGETHER ONE, DOES THE C B A UH, PROHIBIT US FROM DOING THAT OR ANY OTHER STATE STATUTE PROHIBIT US, PROHIBIT US FROM DOING THAT? SHORT ANSWER IS YES. UM, WE HAVE CERTAIN RECORDS PROVISIONS IN 1 43 IN CIVIL SERVICE RIGHT. THAT KEEP CERTAIN RECORDS CONFIDENTIAL OR FROM BEING DISCLOSED. SO NOT EVERYTHING IN, UH, A A PERSONNEL FILE [00:20:01] IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE PUBLIC. RIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR, UM, THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS, FOR THOSE, UM, ANSWERS AND FOR BRINGING CLARITY TO SOME OF MY QUESTIONS. AND, UH, THANK YOU CHAIR FOR SETTING THESE UP BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AS IT'S, IT'S REALLY GATHERING INFORMATION AND HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, WANTING TO ALL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THE POSITIVE CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN DE GRANT, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, THANK YOU CHAIR. AND THANK YOU TO THE CITY STAFF FOR HOSTING, NOT JUST ONE LISTENING SESSION, BUT, BUT THREE, I KNOW KNOW, WE HEARD, UM, A PART OF THIS PRESENTATION IN, IN GREATER DETAIL ON WEDNESDAY, BUT I THINK THERE'S STILL LOTS OF QUESTIONS THAT, UM, THAT WE ASKED AT THAT TIME, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING THE, THE RESPONSES TO THOSE. UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THE, UM, THAT THE UNION OR THE, SORRY, THE ASSOCIATION WAS UNDER AN OBLIGATION TO DEFEND OR PROTECT, UH, ANY UNION MEMBER, ANY ASSOCIATION MEMBER IN THE EVENT THAT THEY WERE LET GO OR, UM, DISCIPLINED BY THE CHIEF OR, OR BY THE CITY. UH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, DOES THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT ALLOW FOR DISCRETION ON THE PART OF THE UNION COUNCIL? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE C B A SPEAKS TO ANY DUTY THAT'S OWED BY THE UNION TO ITS MEMBERS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE A FUNCTION OF THEIR BYLAWS. UM, BUT I WILL DOUBLE CHECK JUST TO SEE IF, IF THE, THE C B A SPEAKS TO THAT. BUT I, I WOULD, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE MORE READILY FOUND IN THEIR BYLAWS, UM, IN TERMS OF THE DUTIES OWED TO THEIR, TO THEIR, UM, OFFICERS. THANK YOU. BUT I WILL, I WILL REVIEW FOR THAT. UH, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I ASK, BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE ALL, WE ALL KNOW, UH, OFFICERS THAT, THAT DO A GREAT JOB. BUT WE'VE ALL READ THE STORIES ABOUT THE OFFICER WHO PROVIDED A HOMELESS MAN, UH, A SANDWICH AND WAS JUST COMPLETELY OUT OF LINE FOR, UH, FOR, FOR ANY CITY EMPLOYEE, ANY PUBLIC SERVANT, YOU KNOW, AND ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER TO DO. AND IT'S, AND THAT PERSON STILL WORKS FOR THE CITY AND STILL RECEIVES A PAYCHECK FROM THE CITY. AND, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE, THE DEFENSE OF THAT PERSON WAS, UM, WAS POSSIBLE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THE C B A. AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY LIST? AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S AN OBLIGATION UNDER THE C B A COUNCILWOMAN. AGAIN, THAT'S PROBABLY A FUNCTION WITHIN THEIR ORGANIZATION'S BYLAWS. BUT I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THE C B A. SO YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS ARE THEY OBLIGATED TO DO THAT OR, YOU KNOW, IF THE, IF THE ASSOCIATION SAYS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY NOT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA PUT OUR NAMES BEHIND THAT IF THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. AND, UM, SO OKAY. SO IT WOULDN'T E EVEN IF IT WAS IN THE C B A OR THE BYLAWS, THOSE THINGS ARE CHANGEABLE, RIGHT? YEAH, THE BYLAWS WE ARE ARE GONNA BE WHOLLY CONTROLLED BY THE UNION AND ITS MEMBERSHIP, SO NO INVOLVEMENT BY THE CITY IN THOSE MM-HMM. . UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE C B A WOULD BE WHERE WE WOULD, WE WOULD HAVE, UM, SAY IN, IN WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S CHANGE. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, ANOTHER QUESTION, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW TO HOW TO ASK THIS ONE, IS, AT ANY POINT, IS THERE SOME LEVEL OF CONFLICT WITH, UH, FEDERAL LAW AND WHAT'S IN THE C B A? FOR INSTANCE, IF, UM, IF SOMEONE, IF SOMEONE WHO'S COVERED BY THE, BY THE C B A C, YOU KNOW, COMMITS SOMETHING, WE DON'T FIND OUT ABOUT IT TILL 180 DAYS AFTERWARD, UH, HOW DOES THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS APPLY, YOU KNOW, BEYOND WHAT, BEYOND THE DISCIPLINARY PROCEDURES, BUT LIKE THE FEDERAL STATUTE OF LIMITATION? YES, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE REAL CONFLICTS THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THAT COMES TO MIND IS THERE'S A 300 DAY STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR LET'S SAY TITLE VII OR, UM, UH, E E O C TYPE MATTER. AND, UM, SO THOSE, THERE'S A, WE HAVE GREATER RESPONSIBILITY, UM, BEYOND OBVIOUSLY 180 DAYS, UM, UNDER THOSE LAWS. SO, SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILWOMAN IS YES. [00:25:01] SO, UM, IN, IN SUMMARY THOUGH, WE ARE LIMITED BY THE C B A IN TERMS OF THE FEDERAL STATUTE OF LIMITATION. SO THE C B A STATUTE OR 180 DAY TIMEFRAME CURRENTLY CONFLICTS WITH FEDERAL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON CERTAIN CRIMES. AND THE C B A OVERRIDES THE FEDERAL STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IS WHAT YOU'RE, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING OR NO? NO, I, IT DOESN'T OVERRIDE US. WHAT IT DOES IS IT HAMPERS THE CITY'S ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY NECESSARY MEASURES THAT IT SEEMS FIT OR, UM, SHOULD BE IMPOSED, LET'S SAY IT'S, IT'S DISCIPLINARY, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BY 180 DAYS. UM, AND SO WE, THERE IS A CONFLICT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A, A GREATER, GREATER RESPONSIBILITY UNDER FEDERAL LAW. AND SO OBVIOUSLY WHEN, WHEN FACED WITH THAT, IT IS, IT'S QUITE A, A CONUNDRUM THAT WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH TO, TO TRY AND, AND RECONCILE IT. BUT IT IS A CONFLICT. IT CREATES PROBLEMS FOR US AS A CITY. AND JUST TO EMPHASIZE ONE POINT ABOUT THE 180 DAYS, IT IS BOTH A CONSTRUCTION OF STATE LAW, CIVIL SERVICE, 1 43 IS THE FOUNDATION FOR THE 180 DAY PERIOD, AND THEN WE SORT OF CAPTURE THAT IN OUR C B A. OKAY. IT STILL SOUNDS VERY CONFUSING, . UM, COULD YOU, I, COULD YOU GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF, UM, YOU CAN MAKE IT UP , IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE REAL ABOUT HOW THAT PLAYS OUT AND WHAT SORT OF, UH, ISSUES THAT MIGHT PRESENT FOR THE CITY, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SO, PURELY HYPOTHETICAL, RIGHT? , COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL , COMPLETELY PURELY HYPOTHETICAL. SO WE HAVE OBLIGATIONS UNDER TITLE VII, UM, WHICH IS, UM, IS OUR CIVIL RIGHTS STATUTE THAT, UM, CREATES A A 300 LI DAY LIMITATION. SO SOMEBODY HAS A COMPLAINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THEY WERE TREATED OR SOME VIOLATION OF TITLE VII, SOME FORM OF DISCRIMINATION. UM, WHEN THEY GO TO COMPLAINT ABOUT IT, IT HAS TO HAVE OCCURRED WITHIN 300 DAYS. RIGHT? UM, THEY, OTHERWISE IT COULD BE TIME BARRED IF THERE'S AN, IF THERE'S NOT ANOTHER EXCEPTION, IF THAT'S THE TIME WE LEARN ABOUT IT AND WE'RE OUTSIDE THE 180 DAY PERIOD, AND LET'S SAY THESE ALLEGATIONS, THESE HYPOTHETICAL ALLEGATIONS ARE TRUE, WE ARE, WE HAVE INABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ACT ON THE INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED IF IT WAS OUTSIDE THAT 180 DAYS. SO WE CAN'T SHOW IN DEFENSE OF BEING, AS BEING A RESPONSIBLE EMPLOYER THAT WE TOOK PROMPT REMEDIAL MEASURES TO DISCIPLINE IF WE'RE OUTSIDE THAT 180 DAY PERIOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT CLARIFIES IT. AND THEN MY, MY LAST QUESTION IS, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT COMPLAINTS ARE REPORTED UP A CHAIN OF COMMAND. IF THERE ARE ANY CONCERNS IN THE POLICE UNION, OR SORRY, IN THE POLICE RANKS, UM, DOES THE C B A PROHIBIT, UH, THE ABILITY FOR, UM, UH, A POLICE OFFICER TO FILE A COMPLAINT OUTSIDE OF THE CHAIN OF COMMAND? UM, SORT OF LIKE THROUGH A, THROUGH A WHISTLEBLOWER PROTECTION? I THINK I ASKED THIS AT B SESSION, BUT I WASN'T QUITE SURE WHAT OUR OPTIONS WERE. I, I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE THAT FURTHER. SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE OR THE LIMITATIONS, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT. THANK YOU, LIZ. I THINK THERE ARE OPTIONS, COUNCILWOMAN, I THINK, UM, ULTIMATELY WE WOULD HAVE TO JUST DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT ANY REQUIREMENTS OF THE C B A ARE MET, BUT FOR PURPOSES OF REPORTING, THERE COULD BE REPORTING OUTSIDE OF THAT CHAIN THAT WOULD THEN TRIGGER, UM, THE APPROPRIATE MEASURES TO BE ABLE TO ACT. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. I THINK MARIA HAS A, UM, ADDITIONAL COMMENT. UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. I JUST WANTED TO, UM, ADDRESS THE COMMENT THAT YOU MADE CONCERNING THE, UH, POLICE OFFICER WHO, UH, PROVIDED A, THIS SANDWICH TO A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL. UM, HE IS NOT CURRENTLY WORKING FOR S A P D. HE WAS TERMINATED A SECOND TIME FOR A SECOND INCIDENT. THAT ARBITRATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED, AND WE ARE AWAITING THE, UM, THE RESULTS FROM THE ARBITRATOR. SO WE'LL KEEP YOU INFORMED ONCE WE GET THOSE RESULTS. AND HE'S NOT GETTING PAID. SO I JUST WANTED TO, UH, MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MARIA. BUT HE GOT PAID WHEN HE CAME BACK THE FIRST TIME, RIGHT? WHEN HE [00:30:01] WAS REINSTATED? I BELIEVE SO COUNCILWOMAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT THE TIMING OF THE SECOND TERMINATION, UH, BUT IF THERE WAS A GAP, THEN YES, HE WOULD'VE, AND THEN HE WAS TERMINATED AGAIN FOR A SECOND INCIDENT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, MARIA. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL. COUNCILMAN PERRY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UM, YEAH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. YOU KNOW, THERE'S THOSE TWO, UH, TWO ACTS, THE 19 47, 19 74, LIZ, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME TALK AND DISCUSSION, WELL, WE NEED TO REPEAL THOSE. THEY'RE OLD OR, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T REFLECT THE CURRENT TIMES, THAT KIND OF THING. BUT, UM, DO WE, WE HAVE EXAMPLES OF OTHER CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THOSE AGREEMENTS IN PLACE, AND WHAT ARE THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS GET SOMETHING SIDE BY SIDE AND SAY, HERE, HERE ARE THE POSITIVES OF HAVING THOSE IN PLACE, AND HERE ARE THE NEGATIVES OF NOT HAVING THESE IN PLACE. AND I'D LIKE SOME KIND OF A CLARIFICATION. WHAT DO WE REALLY GET OUT OF THESE OR WHAT, WHAT DIFFICULTIES ARE THERE WITHOUT THEM? UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M SURE THERE'S, THERE'S ALWAYS TWO SIDES TO THE STORY, AND I, I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET THAT AT, AT SOME SHAPE, FORM, OR FASHION. AND ACTUALLY, NOT JUST IN, JUST FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO FROM THE ASSOCIATION'S PERSPECTIVE ON, UH, WHAT, WHAT THEY VIEW AS, UH, GOOD AND BAD AS WELL. BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OUR PARTNERS AND THAT'S WHO WE DEAL WITH. AND I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, REALLY LIKE TO GET THEIR COMMENTS ON THAT AS WELL. 'CAUSE I, I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY MISUNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT THESE, WHAT THESE ARE IN PLACE FOR, AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THESE IN PLACE, WHAT, WHAT PITFALLS ARE THERE? WHAT RESTRICTIONS ARE THERE? WHAT CAN WE, CAN WE DO AND WHAT CAN'T WE DO AS A CITY? AND, AND, UH, WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE UNION. SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO GET MORE INFORMATION OF THAT AND HOW THAT WOULD APPLY HERE AT SAN ANTONIO. OR NOT APPLY TO SAN ANTONIO. SO IF, IF Y'ALL COULD GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND PRESENT IT ON, ON AT SOME FUTURE COMMITTEE MEETING HERE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, HAVE, AND I ASKED THIS FROM MR. WALSH THE OTHER DAY. UM, IF, IF WE'VE ACTUALLY SAT DOWN AND TALKED WITH THE UNION AT THIS POINT, OR WHEN DO WE PLAN TO SIT DOWN, UH, WITH THEM JUST TO SAY, HEY, HOW'S IT GOING? WE GOT THIS NEGOTIATION, WE HAVE TO START HERE THIS NEXT YEAR. THE, THE COLLECTIVE BARGAIN BARGAINING AGREEMENT'S GONNA RUN OUT ON SUCH AND SUCH TIME. AND HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT WE FORESEE AS THE SCHEDULE AND LAYING THIS WHOLE THING OUT. HAVE, HAS ANY KIND OF DISCUSSIONS GONE ON WITH THE UNION UP UP TO THIS POINT? COUNCILMAN? HI, THIS IS MARIA VIE GOMEZ, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER. UH, WE, UM, HAVE NOT HAD, UH, FORMAL DISCUSSIONS WITH, WITH THE UNION. CERTAINLY THE CITY MANAGER HAS NOT. I, UM, HAD A COUPLE OF CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE ASSOCIATION EARLIER IN THE YEAR, AND OUR INTENT WAS TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF EARLY CONVERSATIONS, UNFORTUNATELY, 'CAUSE OF COVID 19, THAT, THAT, UH, DID NOT, UH, RESULT IN, IN FURTHER CONVERSATIONS. BUT THERE WAS SOME, UM, VERY PRELIMINARY, UH, TALKS ABOUT THE, THE FACT THAT THE CONTRACT IS GOING TO EXPIRE NEXT YEAR. YEAH. WELL, I, YOU KNOW, UH, THINGS ARE LOOSENING UP SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S VIA WEBEX OR MEETING IN PERSON AND KEEPING THE SOCIAL DISTANCING, THAT KIND OF THING. UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, ARE YOU GOING TO PURSUE THAT AT ANY POINT IN TIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE, OR WHEN, OR HOW, THAT KIND OF THING, JUST TO, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO EVEN BE FORMAL, JUST INFORMAL, SIT DOWN AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE LUNCH OR BREAKFAST OR WHATEVER, OR DRINKS IN THE EVENING. COUNCILMAN AS WE, UH, UH, TALK, UH, STRATEGICALLY WITH OUR INTERNAL TEAM, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO REPORT TO THIS COMMITTEE IF THOSE CONVERSATIONS BEGIN AND THE TIMING OF SUCH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. GREAT. WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT. AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO THE, UH, VIRTUAL, UH, MEETINGS HERE AND GETTING THE INPUT FROM, FROM OUR NEIGHBORS OUT IN THE CITY. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN. UH, PERRY, THANK YOU ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR YOUR REMARKS AND QUESTIONS SOLICITING SESSION, AND [00:35:01] THE NEXT TWO TO FOLLOW WAS PUT TOGETHER AT THE REQUEST OF THE PEOPLE. SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE [4. 20-3794 Public Comments] FORWARD TO, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE QUEUED UP TO, TO CALL IN, YOU WILL EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE ASK THAT YOU BE RESPECTFUL OF THE SPEAKER THAT WILL FOLLOW YOU BY LIMITING YOUR COMMENTS TO THOSE TWO MINUTES. WELL, I KNOW YOU'LL HAVE MANY QUESTIONS. TODAY IS ABOUT US LISTENING, SO WE'LL GET TO THE ANSWER THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS AT A LATER DATE. OUR FIRST CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS JAMES DICKMAN. MR. MAY BEAR WITH US FOR JUST A FEW MOMENTS. HELLO? HI, UH, MR. DICKMAN? DYKEMAN? YES. I, I APOLOGIZE SIR. UH, MR. DYKEMAN, UH, WE HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. GREAT. HI, I AM JAMES DYKEMAN. I'M THE DEMOCRATIC PRECINCT CHAIR FOR PRECINCT 3 1 6 1. UM, I WANNA REITERATE THE FACT THAT 70% OF OFFICER TERMINATIONS IN THE CITY LEAD TO REINSTATEMENT WITH BACK PAY AND LEGAL FEES PAID BY THE WORST IN, IN THE COUNTRY. UM, THIS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT, UH, NOT ONLY TO CHIEF MCMANUS, BUT ALSO THE CITY. UM, I THINK THE, UH, THE COMMITTEE FOR BRINGING UP THE DATABASE, I WANNA MAKE THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, FOR THE S A P D OPEN DATA INITIATIVE TO PROVIDE ON THEIR WEBSITE FOR THE BUDGETARY DISCUSSION IN AUGUST. AND THIS NEEDS TO BE PROVIDED BEFORE THEN. UM, DISCIPLINARY SUSPENSION RECORDS FROM OCTOBER, 2009 TO THE PRESENT. UH, KSAT ALREADY HAS THESE RECORDS FROM 2013 TO 2019, SO THEY SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO THE CITY. UM, CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION AGENDAS FROM OCTOBER, 2009 TO THE PRESENT ARBITRATION AWARDS IS DEFINED IN THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT. ARTICLE 28, SECTION NINE FROM OCTOBER, 2009 TO THE PRESENT, THE CHIEF'S ADVISORY ACTION BOARD, INDEPENDENT RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CHIEFS AND CIVIL BOARD DEFINED IN ARTICLE 29, SECTION THREE G FROM THE OCTOBER, 2009 TO THE PRESENT, AND THEN HAVING A DATABASE COLLECTING ALL OF THIS INFORMATION ON THE S A P D OPEN INITIATIVE WEBSITE, WHICH I ALREADY HAVE IN WHICH I CAN PROVIDE TO THE CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE. UM, SO THEY CAN ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING TO GET STARTED. AND ALSO THE COSTS OF INVESTIGATIONS AND APPEALS OF INDEFINITE SUSPENSIONS FROM OCTOBER, 2009 TO THE PRESENT, INCLUDING REPRESENTATION OF THE CHIEF, THE FIRED OFFICER, AND THE BACK PAY TO THE OFFICE OF THESE DOCUMENTS. ARBITRATION DECISIONS TAKE PRIORITY IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHY SO MANY OFFICERS GET . THEY SHOULD BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THESE DEMANDS. FOR TRANSPARENCY, JUST TO END AS A PROMINENT BLACK ATTORNEY ROY WOODS SAID IN 1925, THE TIME HAS COME WHEN THE POLICE OF THE CITY MUST BE MADE TO REALIZE THAT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, THE COMMUNIST CITIZEN CANNOT BE TRAMPLED UPON WITH IMPUNITY, THE TIME HAS COME FOR A REDISTRIBUTION OF JUSTICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. UM, AND KEEP ON GOING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. DYCKMAN. [00:40:02] OKAY, OUR NEXT, UH, CITIZEN IS AARON AR MR. ARGUE. HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR, GO AHEAD. GOOD, THANKS. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. OKAY, GO AHEAD, I'M SORRY. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, MY NAME IS AARON ARGUELLO. I'M A DISTRICT ONE RESIDENT AND A SAN ANTONIO ADVOCACY ORGANIZER FOR MOVE TEXAS, A GRASSROOTS, NONPROFIT, NONPARTISAN ORGANIZATION WORKING TO BUILD POWER IN YOUTH COMMUNITIES, UM, THROUGH CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, AND ISSUE ADVOCACY. UH, I'M CALLING IN TODAY BECAUSE NATIONWIDE, NOT ONLY YOUTH, BUT PEOPLE OF ALL AGES AND IDENTITIES ARE CALLING FOR A CHANGE IN THE WAY WE ADDRESS POLICING. UH, THIS OF COURSE BEGAN FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF GEORGE FLOYD IN MINNEAPOLIS. YOU HAD ANOTHER BLACK MAN MURDERED AT THE HANDS OF POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY. UH, BUT LET'S BE CLEAR, THIS ISSUE IS VERY PRESENT IN SAN ANTONIO. UH, MARQUIS JONES, CHARLES REE JR. ANTHONY SCOTT NORMAN COOPER, UH, THESE BLACK MEN WERE ALL MURDERED BY S A P D AND MOST OF THE OFFICERS INVOLVED STILL HAVE THEIR BADGES. UM, OUR DISTRICT ATTORNEY WHO RAN ON THE PROGRESSIVE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM PLATFORM WON'T EVEN REOPEN THESE CASES. 70% OF FIRED S A P D OFFICERS WERE REINSTATED BETWEEN 2006 TO 2017 DUE TO THE POLICE CONTRACT ARBITRATION CLAUSE. SO THESE ARE NOT SMALL ISSUES OR ONE-OFF INCIDENTS THAT CAN BE FIXED VIA SENSITIVITY TRAINING, BODY CAMS OR TASK FORCES. THIS IS A STRUCTURAL ISSUE AND IT MUST BE ADDRESSED AS SUCH. UM, S A P D CURRENTLY RECEIVES OVER $479 MILLION OF THE CITY BUDGET. THAT'S NEARLY HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. MEANWHILE, HEALTH, HUMAN SERVICES, THE ARTS, HOUSING, AND OTHER VITAL PROGRAMS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT THE PEOPLE LIVING IN OUR CITY ARE STARVED TO FUNDING. UH, WHEN COMMUNITY PROGRAMS ARE NOT FUNDED IN FAVOR OF MILITARIZING OUR POLICE FORCE, THE ONLY RESULT IS CRIMINALIZATION OF POVERTY AND THE BRUTALIZATION OF COMMUNITIES OF COLOR. SO, TO ADDRESS STRUCTURAL ISSUES IN THE COUNTRY'S MOST SEGREGATED CITY, WE NEED TO FUNDAMENTALLY SHIFT THE WAY WE ALLOCATE RESOURCES, AND THAT MEANS DIVESTING IN S A P D IN ORDER TO INVEST IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN YOU, ALL, ALL YOU HAVE ARE HANDCUFFS, EVERY PROBLEM BECOMES AN INMATE. AND WHEN ALL YOU HAVE IS A GUN, EVERY PROBLEM BECOMES A TARGET. SO YOU MUST INSTEAD PURSUE COMMUNITY LED NON-POLICE INITIATIVES TO REDUCE THE RISK OF FATAL OR VIOLENT ENCOUNTERS WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE MUST REMOVE POLICE FROM OUR SCHOOLS. SOMETHING THE STUDENTS OF S A I SS D HAVE ALREADY CALLED FOR IN THEIR STUDENT BILL OF RIGHTS AND MOVE TEXAS HAS SUPPORTED, WHICH HAS BEEN DONE IN PORTLAND, DENVER, AND MINNEAPOLIS NOW. AND WE MUST BAN THE USE OF WEAPONS OF WAR, ESPECIALLY TEAR GAS AND RUBBER BULLETS, WHICH WERE USED ON PROTESTORS IN DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO EARLIER THIS MONTH, AS CITY OFFICIALS IN AUSTIN HAVE PROPOSED DIVESTING FROM THEIR POLICE BUDGET BY A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS NEXT CYCLE, WE ARE LIVING IN UNPRECEDENTED TIMES AND ALL EYES WILL BE ON YOU TO LISTEN TO WHAT WE ARE SAYING AND DIVEST FROM POLICING. IN ORDER TO INVEST IN COMMUNITY NOW, WE MUST BE PROVIDED WITH A DISAGGREGATED LINE ITEM POLICING BUDGET FROM THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR TO BEGIN THE SAME PROCESS OF MAKING, SORRY TO INTERRUPT, BUT WE, WE ONLY HAVE TWO MINUTES, I'M SORRY. UM, ALRIGHT. IF YOU'LL UH, FORWARD THE REST OF THAT TO ME, I'D LOVE TO READ THE REST OF IT THOUGH. WILL DO. THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. OUR NEXT, UH, CITIZEN SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IS GINA KRAMER. HELLO. HI, MS. KRAMER? YES. OKAY. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. UM, SO MY NAME IS GINA KRAMER. I'M A LONGTIME SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT. UM, SO AS THE THINGS ARE NOW, SAN ANTONIO CURRENTLY SPENDS $479 MILLION ON POLICING MORE THAN A THIRD OF THE CITY'S 1.3 BILLION OPERATING BUDGET. I AM REQUESTING A TRANSPARENT LINE ITEM, LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR SS A P D TO BE RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC. I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO REINVEST IN PUBLIC SAFETY BY DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND REDIRECTING THOSE FUNDS TO HOUSING, HEALTH, AND HUMAN SERVICES. POLICE ARE BEING ASKED TO DO TOO MUCH. WITH SO MANY PROBLEMS IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITIES, POLICE SHOULD NOT BE THE ONLY ANSWER. IF SAN ANTONIO INVESTS IN HOUSING TREATMENT AND REHABILITATION EDUCATION, MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, POLICE WILL NO LONGER BE THE ONLY RESPONSE TO THESE PROBLEMS. THEY ARE UNQUALIFIED TO ADDRESS. THE SOLUTION IS NOT MORE TRAINING OR SIMPLE REFORM. THE SOLUTION IS TO REINVE, REINVEST POLICE FUNDING INTO AREAS THAT WILL ACTUALLY HELP KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. FINALLY, I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT THE CASES OF MARQUIS JONES, CHARLES ROUNDTREE, AND ANSWERING SCOTT, ARE REOPENED TO BRING CHARGES AGAINST THEIR KILLERS AND JUSTICE FOR THEIR FAMILY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. KRAMER. UM, NEXT SPEAKER IS SALAZAR. [00:45:07] MR. OKAY, JUST A MOMENT. OKAY. UH, MR. SALAZAR? YES. HI. YEAH, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, SIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. HEY EVERYBODY. UM, MY NAME IS AMADOR SALAZAR. UH, I'M A LONG TIME, UH, SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT. UH, I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE FOR ABOUT 11 YEARS. UM, I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA BE SERIOUS ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT OFTEN GOES OVERLOOKED IS THAT WE MUST ADDRESS THE MILITARIZATION OF THE POLICE FORCES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ESPECIALLY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS, WE'VE SEEN PROTESTORS ATTACK THE TEAR, GAS, PEPPER SPRAY, RUBBER BULLETS, BEANBAG GROUND, AND A LITANY OF OTHER WEAPONS. UM, YOU KNOW, SAN ANTONIO HAS THESE WEAPONS AS WELL. UM, WE CANNOT CLAIM TO BE HEAVILY INVESTED IN PUBLIC SAFETY IF THESE SORT OF WEAPONS ARE AVAILABLE FOR POLICE TO USE ON PEOPLE EXERCISING THEIR RIGHT OF ASSEMBLY AND SPEECH. WHAT MESSAGE ARE WE SENDING? WHEN CHEMICAL WEAPONS ARE USED ON OUR OWN COMMUNITY, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE'VE SEEN AN ESCALATION OF VIOLENCE FROM THOSE WHO CLAIM TO PROTECT AND SERVE US. WHO DO YOU PROTECT WHEN YOU ADMINISTER TEAR GAS OR FIREWOOD AND RUBBER BULLETS AT PROTESTORS AND MEDIA? SS A P D WOULD BE GOOD AND FORTHRIGHT BY REPRIMANDING. ANY OFFICERS WHO USE THOSE WEAPONS ON PROTESTORS AND I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE RETURNING THEM TO THE MILITARY. UM, AT $479 MILLION IN A THIRD OF THE CITY'S BUDGET, IT'S EASY TO SEE THAT SAP'S BUDGET IS, UM, WELL BLOATED. UM, OUR AUSTIN NEIGHBORS ARE CONSIDERING CUTTING THEIR 400 MILLION BUDGET BY 100 MILLION. THAT, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A REALLY GOOD PLACE TO START. TO ME. UM, LET'S ENSURE THAT OUR CITY FUNDS DON'T GO TO AN ORGANIZATION THAT HAS HAD 70% OF THEIR FIRED OFFICERS REINSTATED BETWEEN THE YEARS OF 2006 AND 2017. I DON'T KNOW. LET'S INVEST IN HOUSING, HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES, ALL VITAL CITY NEEDS, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, MIGHT COME IN HANDY DURING A PANDEMIC, UH, DEFUND, S A P D INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. SALAZAR. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, WE HAD A COUPLE MORE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, BUT UM, THEY'RE NOT ANSWERING. YEAH. OKAY. SO, UH, WE DID, WE DID HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE, UH, REACH OUT TO US IN OTHER WAYS, EITHER BY EMAIL OR, UM, LEAVING VOICEMAILS. SO WHAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO NOW IS A SUBMITTED COMMENT THAT WILL BE READ BY OUR CLERK. UH, TINA. GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE RECEIVED A COMMENT FROM SEAN ATON AND MR. ATON IS A DISTRICT 10 RESIDENT. HE STATED THAT HE WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE REDISTRIBUTION OF POLICE FUNDS TO OTHER SOCIAL SERVICES AND RENEGOTIATION OF THE POLICE CONTRACT TO STOP OFFICERS FROM BEING REINSTATED. GUADALUPE BARBOZA STATED THAT S TO BE FUNDED AND THOSE FUNDS SHOULD BE DIVERTED TO PUBLIC SERVICES SUCH AS PUBLIC HEALTH, HOUSING, EDUCATION, AND OTHERS. BRIANNA BARRERA, A DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT, SPOKE IN FAVOR OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND ENSURING THAT POLICE BUDGETS WERE TRANSPARENT. WRITING METCALF OF DISTRICT ONE WROTE THAT SS A P D RESPONDED TO PEACEFUL PROTESTS WITH MORE BRUTALITY. HE SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND INVESTING IN HOUSING, EDUCATION AND PUBLIC TRANSIT. JUSTIN LEVIN OF DISTRICT THREE WROTE, HE WAS IN FAVOR OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE AND MAKING A LINE ITEM POLICE BUDGET AVAILABLE. HE NOTED THAT THE POLICE DID NOT SERVE THE PUBLIC SAFETY BUT RATHER ENDANGER IT. HE SPOKE IN SUPPORT OF TREATING SOCIAL CAUSES, OF TREATING THE SOCIAL CAUSES OF CRIME. TERRY CASTILLO DID NOT [00:50:01] INDICATE HER DISTRICT. SHE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF ALIGNING ALL BUDGETS IN A MANNER WHICH UPLIFTED THE COMMUNITY. SHE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF INVESTING IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DRUG REHABILITATION PROGRAMS, PUBLIC HEALTH, SOCIAL SERVICES, AND THE ARTS. DELMA HERNANDEZ DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT. SHE WROTE THAT SHE DID NOT SUPPORT DEFUNDING THE POLICE, BUT AGREED THAT IT NEEDED RESTRUCTURING TO UPDATE, UPDATE TRAINING POLICIES. SHE SPOKE IN FAVOR OF RENEGOTIATION OF THE UNION CONTRACT TO ALLOW THE POLICE CHIEF TO HAVE GREATER DECISION MAKING POWER. LAUREN LEE DID NOT STATE HER DISTRICT, BUT SHE WROTE THAT WE MUST DEFUND THE POLICE AND REDISTRIBUTE THEIR RESOURCES TO NEW AND EXISTING DEPARTMENTS BASED ON ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF WHAT WOULD HAS HELPED THE COMMUNITY SUCCEED. SHE NOTED THAT THE POLICE EXIST TO PROTECT PROPERTY AND ADDRESS VIOLENT CRIME. APRIL DRE LIEN DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT WROTE THAT IT WAS TIME TO RADICALLY RETHINK PUBLIC SAFETY AND POLICE HEALTH SERVICE. SHE SPOKE OF RE-IMAGING THE PUBLIC SAFETY TO INCLUDE AN ARRAY OF PROFESSIONAL PROFESSIONALS BESIDES THE POLICE. LATONYA JACKSON DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT. SHE ASKED OF THE PLAN TO DECREASE POLICE BRUTALITY AND HOLD THOSE POLICE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS. DENISE OJEDA OF DISTRICT THREE WROTE THAT SHE WANTED THE POLICE COMMITMENT TO RIDING THE POLICE FORCE TO RID THE POLICE FORCE OF RACISM AND ABUSIVE OFFICERS. SHE ASKED THAT A FACILITATOR BE HIRED TO PROVIDE CITY STAFF AND BROAD APPOINTEES, I'M SORRY, AND BOARD APPOINTEES WITH ANTI-RACISM TRAINING. LEONARD TIA DID NOT STATE HIS DISTRICT. HE EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING CUTTING POLICE FUNDING OR REDIRECTING POLICE FUNDS TO SOCIAL PROGRAMS. HE NOTED THAT CUTTING POLICE FUNDS WOULD CONTRIBUTE TO INCREASED CRIME AND DISREGARD FOR THE LAW. CHRIS CON ES DID NOT STATE HIS DISTRICT. HE WROTE THAT THE SAN ANTONIO, THAT SAN ANTONIO WAS 10 YEARS BEHIND WHEN IT COMES, WHEN IT COME TO CULTURE, THE ARTS, AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS. HE NOTED THAT IT WAS TIME TO STEP IT UP. JESSICA BETIS DID NOT STATE. HER DISTRICT WROTE THAT IT WOULD HURT THE CITY TO DEFUND THE POLICE. SHE NOTED THAT THE CITY DID A GOOD JOB TRAINING AND EQUIPPING OFFICERS TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE CITY. TIM BARR DID NOT STATE HIS DISTRICT. HE THANKED CITY COUNCIL FOR BEGINNING TO EXPLORE HOW TO DEFUND AND REINVEST SOME OF THE BUDGET DEDICATED TOWARDS THE SS A P D AND FOR REINVESTING SOME OF THE S A P D BUDGET TO DEMONSTRATE HOW MUCH BLACK LIVES TRULY DO MATTER. IN SAN ANTONIO, HE NOTED THAT OUR CITY NEEDS YOUNG LEADERSHIP, EXCUSE ME, THE CITY NEEDS YOUR LEADERSHIP TO BRING ABOUT TRANSFORMATIONAL CHANGE. THOSE WERE THE COMMENTS THAT WERE SENT TO THE SAN ANTONIO.GOV OFFICE OF THE CITY CLERK EMAIL PAGE. NOW I HAVE 89 COMMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO SA SPEAKUP. KATHLEEN GAMBLE DID NOT STATE HER DISTRICT. SHE SAID 11 YEARS AGO ON JULY 7TH, 2009, SHE CALLED S A P D ABOUT DRUGS BEING FREQUENTLY USED IN THE OPEN AND IN FRONT OF ELDERLY AND YOUNG RESIDENTS AT AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. A FEMALE POLICE OFFICER RUDELY TOLD HER AND HER HUSBAND THAT TOLD HER THAT HER HUSBAND HAD CALLED AND HUNG UP ON HER. SINCE THEN, THREE MURDERS HAVE OCCURRED AND AT LEAST ONE STABBING. SHE ASKED S A P D TO TREAT ALL CITIZENS EQUAL AND TO DROP THE ARROGANT ATTITUDE. CARLOS ROMERO WROTE, ANYONE WISHING TO ABOLISH THE POLICE MUST FIRST SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE POLICE ACADEMY TRAINING AND BE FULLY QUALIFIED TO BE HIRED AS AN ACTIVE DUTY POLICE OFFICER TO BE ALLOWED EXISTING OFFICERS WANTING TO ABOLISH THE POLICE ARE BASICALLY SPIES AND SHOULD BE PULLED FROM ACTIVE DUTY. MATT JOHNSON OF DISTRICT NINE NOTES THAT HE SUPPORTS THE POLICE, THE RIOTING THAT HAPPENED DOWNTOWN IS DISGRACEFUL. THE CITY DEPENDS ON TOURISM AND NO ONE'S GOING TO COME TO SAN ANTONIO IF WE DO NOT HAVE A SAFE CITY TO VISIT MICHAEL GOOD OF DISTRICT TWO RIGHTS. I HAVE TO ASK WHERE YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS PRIOR TO THIS INCIDENT IN MINNEAPOLIS, WE HAVE MANY GREAT OFFICERS. BEN DREW IS A GREAT OFFICER. BOBBY DECKARD WAS A GREAT OFFICER. HE GAVE HIS WIFE PROTECTING [00:55:01] OUR CITY. EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU WHO SIGNED ON TO THE POLICE CONTRACT ARE THE PROBLEM. WHEN AN OFFICER SUCH AS DESSI RIOS IS ALLOWED ON THE STREETS AFTER BEING DRUNK AND INVOLVED IN A SHOOTING, THAT'S WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES. NATALIE HINES DID NOT NOTE HER DISTRICT. SHE WRITES, PLEASE DO NOT FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF MINNESOTA, WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, OR LOS ANGELES TO COMMUNITY STYLE POLICING. THIS WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR CITY AND OUR CITIZENS. I WOULD, HOWEVER, IMPLEMENT MORE TRAINING FOR ALL OFFICERS AND PROVIDE MORE CHECKS AND BALANCES TO WEEDED OUT POSSIBLE CORRUPTION. REBECCA GRIFFIN OF DISTRICT NINE RIGHTS. WE HAVE A SITUATION WHERE OFFICERS WHO COMMITTED HORRIBLE ACTS AGAINST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS ARE STILL ON THE FORCE. FOR EXAMPLE, GIVING A HOMELESS PERSON A CE SANDWICH. WE NEED A CITY FUNDED NONPROFIT AGENCY. NUMBER ONE, COLLECT DATA. SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT. YOU CAN ALSO TRY SPELLING IT. NUMBER ONE, COLLECT DATA REGARDING MISCONDUCT AND POLICING. NUMBER TWO, PROVIDE COUNSELING TO VICTIMS OF MISCONDUCT. NUMBER THREE, PROVIDE LEGAL ASSISTANCE TO VICTIMS OF MISCONDUCT. NUMBER FOUR, PRESENT INFORMATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL REGARDING THE TRUE NATURE OF POLICE MISCONDUCT IN THE CITY. JONATHAN ANDERSON OF DISTRICT EIGHT RIGHTS. WE HAVE TO BE SMARTER ABOUT WHAT WE ARE ASKING POLICE TO DO. WE NEED TO INCREASE FUNDING FOR SOCIAL PROGRAM AND SOCIAL WORKERS AND TAKE THIS OFF THE PLATE OF THE POLICE TO TRY AND HANDLE. PLEASE ALSO REDUCE OR EV EVEN ELIMINATE THE PURCHASING OF MILITARY GRADE EQUIPMENT. SYLVIA POINTER, DISTRICT SEVEN RIGHTS AND THUS MORE FUNDS IN YOUTH AND YOUNG ADULT PROGRAMS TO PROVIDE PREVENTIVE PROGRAMS AND ALTERNATIVES TO DRUGS, UNPROTECTED SEX AND DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIORS, AND HELP KEEP OUR YOUTH ON A POSITIVE TRACK. KELLY ESPINOSA DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT. SHE WRITES THAT WE MUST, YOU MUST MAKE IT ILLEGAL FOR POLICE FORCE TO USE METHODS BANNED BY THE GENEVA CONVENTION IN 1949. THE MAYOR AND POLICE CHIEF ARE COMPLICIT IN COMMITTING WARS CRIMES AGAINST THEIR OWN CITIZENS. IF THEY ALLOWED THIS TO CONTINUE, DANNY SILVA DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT. HE WRITES THAT HE'S CONCERNED THAT LISTENING SESSIONS WILL LEAD TO REAL, WILL NOT LEAD TO REAL STRUCTURAL CHANGE. I DO NOT MEAN TO SOUND LIKE A CONSPIRACY THEORIST, BUT THIS KIND OF FEELS LIKE SOMETHING THE CITY'S DOING TO PLACATE THOSE OF US WHO WANT CHANGE WHILE ACTUALLY CHANGING LITTLE TO NOTHING. ANNA BLAIR OF DISTRICT SEVEN RIGHTS, WHY ARE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS SO OUS WITH HUMAN LIVES? THEY SHOOT, THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS BEING BE WHAT IS BEHIND THE WALL IN THE CAR OR IN THE BACK OF A FLEEING VICTIM. THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST ANYONE UNLESS THEY'RE BEING SHOT AT OR ATTACKED. MARGARITA CAN TOO. DISTRICT TWO, RIGHT? THAT SHE'S SHOCKED AND DISMAYED. ANTONIO, I AM IN SUPPORT OF REFORM AND RETRAINING, BUT IN NO WAY DO I ADVOCATE, DISMANTLING OR DEFUNDING THE POLICE FORCE. THIS IS MILITARY CITY U S A. WE SUPPORT OUR HEROES IN UNIFORM. THIS INCLUDES OUR POLICE AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS. I LIVE ON THE EAST SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO, ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM MARTIN LUTHER KING JR. DRIVE THE DANGEROUS PART OF TOWN THANKS TO THE HARD WORK OF THE POLICE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH GROUP, CRIME HAS GONE DOWN IN THE AREA. DIANE MARTINEZ OF DISTRICT TWO, RIGHT? I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I DO NOT WISH FOR THE DEFUNDING OF THE POLICE. IF THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGES DONE, THEN SO BE IT. BUT I OPPOSE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, FIREFIGHTERS, PARAMEDICS, PARAMEDICS, ET CETERA, AND THE CITY SHOULD HAVE TO DO ANY INVESTIGATIVE WORK FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE NEITHER THE TIME, THE MONEY, NOR THE MANPOWER, NOR THE KNOWLEDGE TO DO CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION. MICHAEL RAMOS DID NOT STATE HIS DISTRICT. HE WRITES, CERTAIN POLICE REFORMS MUST BE ENACTED IN SAN ANTONIO TO CREATE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CITIZENS AND OFFICERS. IT WILL BEGIN TO REBUILD THE BROKEN TRUST AND FAIRNESS, MINORITY STILL WHEN THEY NEED HELP, YET FORCED TO TAKE THE LAW INTO THEIR OWN HANDS INSTEAD OF CALLING THE POLICE [01:00:01] IF THESE ARE, IF THESE ARE NOT ENACTED, I SEE A FUTURE OF AMERICAN LIVES THAT CONTINUE TO DETERIORATE, LIVES LOST, AND THE EMPOWERMENT OF VIGILANTE SQUADS THAT WILL LEAD TO VENGEANCE OF THOSE THAT ARE OPPRESSED BY ANGRY INDIVIDUALS. BRYANT MITTLER OF DISTRICT EIGHT WRITES, I WISH TO SPEAK AT EITHER THE JUNE 15TH OR JUNE 20TH MEETING ON POLICING OR BOTH. IF THREE MINUTES IS THE LIMIT, THEN I REQUEST ONE THREE MINUTE INPUT AT BOTH. I WISH TO SPEAK ABOUT TWO POLICE DEATH CASES AND THE CITY'S FAILURE TO DEAL WITH BOTH AND THE NEED OF SUBSTANTIAL REFORM OF POLICE OVERSIGHT BY CIVILIANS IN SAN ANTONIO. I WILL SPEAK WITH SPECIFIC DIRECT KNOWLEDGE AS BOTH OF PHYSICIANS AND AN ATTORNEY, AND AS A RESIDENT OF THE CITY SINCE 1976. SUZIE THOMAS OF CARROLL HILLS RIGHTS. PLEASE DO NOT CONSIDER DEFUNDING THE POLICE AS OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS IS A VIABLE SOLUTION. OUR POLICE FORCE SERVES A VITAL AND NECESSARY SERVICE TO THE GREAT CITY. REFORMS ARE NECESSARY, BUT STRIPPING THE FORCE OF FUNDING WILL ONLY RESULT IN OTHER ISSUES ARISING. CONSIDER ADDING COMMUNITY MEASURES AS AN ADDITION TO THE FORCE TO SERVE ALONGSIDE THEM TO ADDRESS MANY ISSUES THAT ARE NOT LAW ENFORCEMENT SPECIFICS SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH CHANGES. DEREK ELLIS OF DISTRICT EIGHT RIGHTS. AS YOU ARE SUMMARIZING OUR DIALOGUE, LET ME MAKE THIS ABUNDANTLY CLEAR. I WANT SS A P D DEFUNDED AND THE FUNDS REALLOCATED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. SEAN LEAN DID NOT. SHAUNA LEAN DID NOT, UH, REFERENCE HER DISTRICT, BUT SHE WRITES THAT POLICE FORCE DOES A FANTASTIC JOB AND NEEDS NOTHING BUT MORE SUPPORT FROM OUR CITY LEADERS. VALERIE GARCIA DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT SAYS, DO NOT DEFUND THE POLICE. CHELSEA EVANS DID NOT INDICATE. HER DISTRICT SAYS THAT SHE'S A VOLUNTEER WITH THE THE GRASSROOTS LAW. GRASSROOTS LAW PROTECT, WE ARE WORKING TO END POLICE BRUTALITY AND MASS INCARCERATION AND REFORM POLICING FOR MORE THAN JUST SOCIETY. I'M WRITING TO ASK YOU TO TAKE THE PATH TO JUSTICE PLEDGE. BY TAKING THIS PLEDGE, YOU ARE COMMITTING TO THE POLICIES THAT END POLICE BRUTALITY AND THE KILLING BY RESTRICT RESTRICTING THE USE OF FORCE. DEANDRA REEL DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT, BUT WRITES THAT MYSELF AND A FEW OF MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES OF THE GRASSROOTS LAW PROTECT WOULD LIKE FOR YOUR OUR PLEDGE TO BE REVIEWED AND SIGNED. PLEDGE FOR JUSTICE IS A PLAN FOR CHANGE. WE WOULD LIKE YOUR SUPPORT IN IMPROVING THE CITY AND BECOMING PART OF THE MOVEMENT FOR CHANGE AND A BETTER TOMORROW. ANTHONY BERNA DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT WROTE. MANY PEOPLE ARE CALLING TO DEFUND THE POLICE THE POLICE DON'T WANT, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE, WHICH THE POLICE DO NOT WANT, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE. IF FUNDS ARE REALLOCATED TO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, HOW CAN WE HELP ADDRESS THE FEARS AND INSECURITY OF THE PUBLIC FIELD? WHAT TRAINING CAN BE OFFERED TO OFFICERS TO HELP THEM DEAL WITH STRANGE SITUATIONS? WHAT IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE? DENYING A PLAN MEANS YOU SHOULD STATE A NEW ONE. IF YOU WANT CONTINUED SUPPORT FROM OUR COMMUNITY, EMILY SATEL DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT RIGHT. I'M CALLING ON THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO TAKE THE PATH TO JUSTICE PLEDGE GRASSROOTS LAW.ORG/PLEDGE. BY TAKING THIS PLEDGE, YOU ARE COM COMMITTING TO POLICY, YOU ARE COMMITTING TO POLICIES THAT END POLICE BRUTALITY AND KILLING BY RESTRICTING THE USE OF FORCE, CREATING NON-LETHAL RESPONSE TEAMS AND DEMILITARIZING POLICE FORCES. BY TAKING THE PLEDGE, YOU ALSO COMMIT TO HOLD LAW ENFORCEMENT ACCOUNTABLE BY CREATING COMMUNITIES FOR OVERSIGHT AND SUBPOENA POWERS WITH A LI WITH ELI, WITH ELIMINATING EXCEPTIONS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT SUCH AS QUALIFIED IMMUNITY. EVELYN BROWN OF DISTRICT TWO RIGHTS. WHEN OFFICERS DO HORRIBLE AND UNSPEAKABLE THINGS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, THE DISCIPLINARY PROCESS NEEDS TO STAND. SO WHEN THE ARBITRATION PROCESS STARTS, THEY NEED TO BE NEUTRAL. BUT LAWYERS WHO ARE ARBITRATORS ARE NOT NEUTRAL. THEY TRY TO PLEASE BOTH SIDES BY HANDING OUT A FINE OR A SUSPENSION AND THEN PLACE THE OFFICER BACK ON THE JOB. THIS IS NOT JUDICIAL PROCESS [01:05:01] FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT RATHER PRIVATE PROCESS THAT LACKS TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE PUBLIC. DESIREE SCHULER DOES NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT, BUT SHE, SHE WRITES THAT MASKS SHOULD BE MANDATORY FOR CUSTOMERS AND STAFF FOR, SINCE WE ARE STILL HAVING CASES, MY BROTHER AND MY DAD BOTH HAVE ASTHMA AND THEY STILL WEAR THEIR MASKS. PLEASE WATCH OUTSIDE PARTIES AND ASK EVERYONE TO WEAR THEIR MASKS, INCLUDING THOSE THAT VISIT SPURS GAME AND THE, UH, CONCERTS AT THE ALAMODOME. MATTHEW CUP DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT. HE WRITES, I WOULD LIKE THE CITY TO ADOPT A DUAL PRONGED DIVEST INVEST PROGRAM. THIS WOULD ENTAIL SPENDING LESS ON POLICING BUDGETS AND MORE ON SOCIAL SERVICES BY INVESTING IN THINGS LIKE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, DRUG REHABILITATION PROGRAMS, AND COMMUNITY COMMUNITY POLICING. JAIME CUP DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT RIGHT OR JAMIE CUP, I'M SORRY, ABOLISH THE RACIST INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE POLICE. THAT IS OUR POLICE SYSTEM. WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SINGLE OUT PEOPLE OF COLOR AND FORWARD THE TO RACIAL PROFILING THAT LEAVES TO PROOF POLICE BRUTALITY AND MA AND MURDER. I CAN'T BREATHE. BLACK LIVES MATTER. JAKE RAMIREZ DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT. HE WRITES, EVERY DAY SAN ANTONIO LIVES UNDER THE THREAT OF SERIOUS BODILY INJURY OR DEATH DUE TO THE NO-KNOCK RAIDS BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, NO-KNOCK RAIDS OR RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TRAGIC DEATH OF BRIANNA TAYLOR IN LEWISVILLE, THE DEATH OF REGINA NICHOLS AND DENNIS TUTTLE AND HOUSTON, AND THE UNLAWFUL INVASION OF A HOME OF LINDSEY BISHOP AND CAROLYN CLARK IN SAN ANTONIO. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THIS LAW ENFORCEMENT TACTIC LEADS TO DEATH AND THE INJURY OF INNOCENT OFFICERS AND CITIZENS ALIKE. MARK JAMES DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT. HE WRITES THAT ABSOLUTELY DO NOT TAKE ANY ACTION THAT RE WOULD RESULT IN COMPROMISING THE SAFETY OF SAN ANTONIO CITIZENS PROTESTORS HAVE HIJACKED, DEMEANING, MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS AND IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS TRAVESTY TO OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SURRENDER TO THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT. DO NOT PAVE THE ROAD THAT LEADS TO BECOMING ANOTHER SEATTLE. YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB FOR OUR CITIZENS AND KEEPING THEM SAFE. THIS TRAINER OF DISTRICT THREE RIDES, I AM A FIRM BELIEVER IN COMMUNITY POLICING. I HAVE SEEN IT IN PERSON ABOUT 15 TO 20 YEARS AGO. S A P D DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PERSONNEL TO DO IT WELL ENOUGH. THEY WOULD RIDE BIKES THROUGH COMMUNITIES, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, AND EVERYONE KNEW AND RESPECTED THEM. SAN ANTONIO NEEDS MANY MORE POLICE AS THE CITY IS SO MUCH LARGER THAN IT WAS 15 TO 20 YEARS. DOROTHY HARRELL DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT. SHE WRITES, WE RECENTLY MOVED TO THE CITY FROM SPRING BRANCH. I HAVE ALREADY SEEN POSTS ON MY NEXTDOOR APP, ABOUT THREE STOLEN VEHICLES AND SEVERAL OTHER POSTS ABOUT HEARING GUNSHOTS. WE'RE CURRENTLY RENTING WHILE SAVING FOR A DOWN PAYMENT TO PURCHASE A HOME. I GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ARE DISBANDED, WE WILL NOT BE STAYING IN THIS AREA. WE WILL MOVE AWAY TO SAME PLACE THAT IS SAFE. MS. MARIE FALLON, DISTRICT 10 RIGHTS. I DO NOT BELIEVE WE HAVE INHERENTLY BAD COP SITUATION, BUT WE DO HAVE A BROTHERHOOD CULTURE THAT PROTECTS EACH OTHER. NO MATTER WHAT. THE FEAR OF BREAKING WITH THAT CULTURE IS LOSING TRUST WITH ONE ANOTHER. THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO DEESCALATE THE PRECONCEIVED IMAGES OF A RAT OR A BETRAYAL ONE WHEN ONE CALLS OUT THE OTHER AND THE DEPARTMENT. THERE HAS TO BE A WAY TO DEVELOP A CULTURE OF EXCELLENCE, TRUST, AND BROTHERHOOD BASED ON PERFORMANCE. MATTHEW SNYDER DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT. HE WRITES, POLICE FORCE IS NOT THE ISSUE HERE. WE DO NOT TRY TO DEFUND SCHOOLS BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE BAD TEACHERS OR GET RID OF GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF A COUPLE BAD PUBLIC SERVANT. IF YOU DEFUND GET RID OF POLICE SUPPORT, YOU LEAD US TOWARDS LAWLESSNESS. YOU CANNOT UPHOLD THE LAW WITHOUT SOMEONE TO ENFORCE IT. OUR CITY ALREADY HAS A PROBLEM WITH CRIME WITHOUT MAKING IT HARDER FOR OUR POLICE FORCE, KATHLEEN ANDERS OF DISTRICT [01:10:01] NINE RIGHTS LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A VITAL PART OF OUR CITY'S WELLBEING. THE CITY GOVERNMENT MUST SUPPORT OUR POLICE. ANY UNDERMINING OF SAN ANTONIO'S POLICE FORCE WOULD BE HARMFUL TO THE CITIZENS AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE FAMILIES AND BUSINESSES. THE POLICE SHOULD NEVER BE INSTRUCTED TO STAND DOWN, ESPECIALLY IN A RIOT OR AN ALLUDING SITUATION. WE RESPECT AND SUPPORT OUR POLICE. RACHEL SLOS DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT, BUT SHE WRITES THAT SHE'S A VOLUNTEER. WITH THE GRASSROOTS LAW PROJECT, WE ARE WORKING TO END POLICE BRUTALITY AND MASS INCARCERATION AND REFORM POLICING FOR A MORE JUST SOCIETY. I'M ASKING YOU FOR TAKE THE PATH. TO TAKE THE PATH TO JUSTICE PLEDGE. BY TAKING THIS PLEDGE, YOU ARE COMMITTING TO POLICIES THAT END POLICE BRUTALITIES AND KILLING BY RESTRICTING THE USE OF FORCE, CREATING NON-LETHAL RESPONSE TEAMS AND DEMILITARIZING POLICE FORCES AMERICA. UM, IN ZOMBA, DISTRICT ZERO WRITES THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS PROPOSED TO PROMOTE EQUITY AND HOLD POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR MISCONDUCT. THERE ARE NA NATURAL GROUPS THAT CAN HELP WITH PROPOSALS AND ASSIST IF REQUIRED. ELIZABETH CUOMO OF DISTRICT SIX RIGHTS. DO YOU PROTESTORS MEAN? WHAT DO PROTESTORS MEAN WHEN THEY SAY DEFUND THE POLICE? DO YOU MEAN TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THE POLICE FORCE OR REDUCE FUNDING? TO THE POINT THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH QUALIFIED POLICEMEN TO HANDLE CRIME IN SAN ANTONIO. POLICING IS A VERY DANGEROUS JOB. THERE ARE POLICEMEN WHO DO NOT HANDLE SITUATIONS WITH THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF FORCE. THAT DOES NOT MEAN ALL POLICE ARE BAD AND WE SHOULD BE AND THEY SHOULD BE PUNISHED OR ABOLISHED. WE NEED MORE TRAINING FOR POLICE AND HANDLING SITUATIONS WITH MINIMAL VIOLENCE AND, AND HOW TO ACT TO REDUCE AND NOT ESCALATE TENSION. CUTTING BUDGETS LEAVES NO FUNDS FOR TRAINING AND LOWERS THE CALIBER OF CANDIDATES APPLYING, WHICH CAUSED INCREASED STRESS FROM THE POLICE FORCE, WHICH IS ALREADY TOO SMALL. NANCY CAMPBELL OF DISTRICT 10 RIGHTS DEMILITARIZED POLICE MAKE LYNCH IN A FEDERAL CRIME, INCREASE DEESCALATION TRAINING FOR POLICE BAN CHOKE HOLD, INCREASE COMMUNITY RELATIONS, CREATE AN IMPARTIAL COMMUNITY REVIEW COMMITTEE LIKE JURY DUTY TO REDUCE POLICE CASES AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. DA SHOULD NOT LEAD INVESTIGATION, DECREASE POWER OF POLICE UNIONS, DECREASE POLICE BUDGETS AND REALLOCATE FUNDS TO WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, RESOLVING DIGITAL DIVIDE AND SOLVING HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. JENNIFER FLEMING OF DISTRICT EIGHT RIGHTS. I'M GOING TO BE EXPLICIT. THE USE OF TEAR GAS AGAINST PROTESTORS ON MAY 30TH BY SS A P D IS AN ACTUAL REAL HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION. THIS WAS A HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PROVIDED THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS TO DO SO. THIS IS THE TRUTH OF SAN ANTONIO. HOW DARE YOU WATCH THIS AS A REPRESENTATIVE AND NOT FEEL THE SHAME AND URGENCY NECESSARY TO TAKE THE IMMEDIATE STEPS TO DEMILITARIZE THE POLICE. PABLO CRUZ OF DISTRICT EIGHT, ACTUALLY HE SAYS HE LIVES IN HELO, BUT SAYS DISTRICT EIGHT. I WOULD LIKE FOR THERE TO BE A POLICY WHERE ALL POLICE OFFICERS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS IN THE SAME MANNER AS A CITIZEN. IN ADDITION, THERE SHOULD BE TRANSPARENCY BY OPENING THEIR RECORDS TO THE PUBLIC AND EVERY OFFICER SHOULD HAVE A BODY CAMERA AND IF THAT CAMERA'S TURNED OFF AT ANY POINT, THERE SHOULD BE A RECORD AND A PENALTY OF A FEE. ADAM MORGAN OF DISTRICT EIGHT RIGHTS. AFTER A LONG DAY OF PEACEFUL PROTESTS ON MAY 30TH BY A UNITED UNARMED MULTIRACIAL GROUP, WHY DID SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT ESCALATE THE SITUATION BY SHOWING UP IN RIOT GEAR WHEN PLACING THEMSELVES BETWEEN THE PROTESTER AND THE ARM COUNTER PROTESTORS WHO WERE SWORN TO USE, WHO HAD SWORN TO USE VIOLENCE? WHY DID SS A P D AND CHIEF MCMANUS WORDS AND INTERVIEW ON T P R DETERMINED THAT THE THREAT WAS AN UNARMED PROTESTOR AND FACED THEM WITH THE BACKS OF THE ARM GROUP THREATENING VIOLENCE [01:15:03] AND ANGELICA MILLER OF DISTRICT 10 RIGHTS I SUPPORT SS A P D DO NOT DEFUND, DEFUND, OR REDUCE FUNDS FROM OUR PUBLIC SAFETY. IT IS ABSOLUTELY APPALLING THAT WE ARE EVEN HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. THE MAJORITY OF SAN ANTONIO STAND WITH OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN. THERE HAS TO BE LAW AND ORDER. YOUR POWER IS DERIVED FROM THE PEOPLE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SPEAK UP ON BEHALF. ON YOUR BEHALF. COME ELECTION TIME WE WILL REMEMBER. I WILL CALL ON YOU TO STAND UP FOR OUR BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN. WE HAVE THE BEST HERE IN SAN ANTONIO FOR A REASON, DEFUNDING OR REDUCING PAY AND BENEFITS WILL NOT ATTRACT THE BEST POSSIBLE CANDIDATE THAT WE ARE KNOWN FOR. IN SAN ANTONIO, I IMPLORE YOU. I IMPLORE EACH ONE OF YOU WHO HAS THE SECURITY DETAIL TO LOOK AT THE SERVICE AND DEDICATION OF THOSE OFFICERS WHO PROVIDE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY SECURITY. THE CALIBER OF OUR OFFICERS SPEAKS OF OUR GREAT CITY, JENNIFER CURTIS, OF DISTRICT NINE RIGHTS. I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO DEFUNDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT IS PATHETIC THAT THIS IS EVEN AN ISSUE. YES, POLICE OFFICERS SHOULD BE REVIEWED AND ANY BAD COPS SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY ARE GOOD OFFICERS WHO PUT THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE EVERY DAY TO PROTECT CITIZENS THEY DON'T DESERVE THE HATE THAT HAS BEEN SPEWED UPON THEM THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS, I HOPE AND PRAY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL HAVE THE GUTS TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT AND WORK ON POLICE REFORMS WITHOUT DEFUNDING THEM. MARIA ELENA LER OF SHIRTS RIGHTS. WE MOVED TO SAN ANTONIO 11 YEARS AGO THIS MONTH. IF THE CITY MOVES TO DEFUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE'LL LEAVE SAN ANTONIO. I AM CERTAIN LIKE MY FAMILY, MANY OTHERS WILL FOLLOW. WE SUPPORT THE POLICE FORCE AND THOSE WHO SERVE AND PROTECT OUR HOMES. DOUG CURTIS OF DISTRICT NINE RIGHTS DO NOT DEFUND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DO NOT REDUCE THEIR BUDGET. CHAD SCHULTZ DID NOT IN INDICATE HIS DISTRICT RIGHTS. WE NEED POLICE REFORM AND WE NEED IT NOW. INCIDENTS OF WANTON POLICE BRUTALITY ACROSS THE COUNTRY RECENTLY AND HISTORICALLY MADE THE MADE THAT CLEAR AND SAN ANTONIO IS NOT EXEMPT. I AM NO EXPERT ON WHAT THE BEST POLICE REFORM SHOULD BE OR WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. I LOOK TO THE SCENE, I LOOK TO THE SCIENCE ON THAT PROJECT. ZERO SEEMS TO BE HAVE SOME GOOD IDEAS, BUT WHATEVER'S DONE NEEDS TO BE DRASTIC. NOT PURELY LIP SERVICE, PROTECTIONS AGAINST POLICE. ACCOUNTABILITY MUST BE STRIPPED AWAY. WE LOOK. WE NEED TO LOOK UP TO OUR POLICE, NOT FEAR THEM. ROSA LINDA LITTLEFIELD OF DISTRICT TWO WRITES CHAPTER 1 43 AND 1 74 MUST CHANGE AND BE UPDATED. ACCOUNTABILITY AND RESPONSIBILITY FROM POLICE OFFICERS, POLICE CHIEFS, AND POLICE UNIONS. C B A CONTRACTS WE SHOULD NOT REWARD BAD BEHAVIOR ON ANY JOB, ESPECIALLY THE HIGH STANDARD OF S A P D WHO WORKS FOR THE PUBLIC CHANGE MUST COME IN-HOUSE, GET SS A P D HOUSE IN ORDER ALL LIVES MATTER. NICOLE RODRIGUEZ DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT RIGHTS CITY COUNCIL AS A RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO, I DO NOT SUPPORT DEFUNDING THE POLICE. OUR POLICE OFFICERS AND POLICE CHIEFS DO A GREAT JOB OF PROTECTING OUR GROWING CITIES AND THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WHEN OTHER LARGE CITIES FACED DAYS AND WEEKS OF LONG PROTESTS WHICH TURN INTO RIOT, SAN ANTONIO WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE CITIES. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY. APPLICANTS COME FROM ALL OVER TO APPLY FOR THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT. DEFUNDING OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE A STEP IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. ALTHOUGH ACTIONS TO DEFUND POLICE ARE OCCURRING IN OTHER STATES, OUR CITY NEEDS TO BE ASSESSED BASED ON THE COMMUNITY. GISELA AL DID NOT INDICATE THEIR DISTRICT, BUT SAYS, MY FAMILY AND I SUPPORT SS A P D AND THE POLICE AND THEIR EFFORTS OF KEEPING LAW ABIDING CITIZENS SAFE. MORE FUNDS NEED TO GO TO THEM IN ORDER TO IMPROVE TRAINING, PAY THEM BETTER SALARIES AND KEEP THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES SAFE. POLICE IN AMERICA IS ONE OF THE GREATEST BLESSINGS AND ASSETS TO MAINTAIN LAW AND [01:20:01] ORDER FOR THE BENEFITS OF THE, IT ALLOWS CITIZENS TO PURSUE THE HAPPINESS OF SAFETY. OUR FOUNDING FATHERS CREATED LAWS BASED ON BIBLICAL LAWS OF GOD AND WE CANNOT IGNORE HUNDREDS OF YEARS OF HISTORICAL EVENTS JUST BECAUSE OF A FEW BAD APPLES. YOLANDA CHAPMAN OF LOTUS RIGHTS, I PROPOSE WE FOCUS ON PREVENTION OF POLICE BRUTALITY FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL CITIZENS. THIS IS A HIGH STRESS JOB AND I THINK A FOCUS SHOULD BE PUT ON OFFICERS MENTAL HEALTH AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE. RIGOROUS MENTAL HEALTH SCREENERS FOR PEOPLE APPLYING AND UPDATED SCREENERS ANNUALLY REQUIRE ANNUAL TRAINING ON CULTURE, RACE, EQUITY, AND TRAUMA. I THINK MONEY SHOULD BE ADDED FOR LICENSED SOCIAL WORKERS TO HOST LISTENING CIRCLES THAT OFFICERS PARTICIPATE IN TWICE A MONTH AS A REQUIREMENT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THEM SO THEY CAN VOICE THEIR FRUSTRATIONS AND THEIR STRUGGLES WITH THEIR JOB. GARRETT COOK. IAN DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT RIGHTS IN 2016. MY THEN PREGNANT WIFE WAS HAVING MENTAL DISTRESS. I WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE HELPLINE TO CALL THE POLICE FOR HELP. MY WIFE WAS NOT LISTENING TO THE POLICE WHEN ASKED TO GET OUT OF HER CAR, BUT SHE WAS NOT BEING VIOLENT. THE OFFICER LOST HIS PATIENCE AND DECIDED TO PULL MY WIFE OUT OF THE CAR, TWISTING HER ARM PAINFULLY BEHIND HER BACK AND PINNING HER DOWN AND HANDCUFFING HER. SHE SCREAMED IN PAIN. I PLEADED WITH THE OFFICER TO STOP HURTING MY WIFE BECAUSE SHE WAS PREGNANT. THEN HIS PARTNER PUT HIS FINGER ON IN MY FACE AND SAID, IF I DON'T GET BACK INSIDE, I'M ARRESTING YOU AS WELL. OUR EIGHT YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WAS INSIDE SO I OBEYED NOT WANTING TO GET BOTH OF HER PARENTS ARRESTED. I CONTINUED TO ASK THEM TO LET HER GO AND I WOULD TAKE CARE OF HER, BUT THEY WOULDN'T LISTEN. MY PREGNANT WIFE WAS NOT GOING TO HURT ANYONE. MY WIFE AND I WERE TERRIFIED AND THE FORCE USED WAS GOING TO HARM OUR BABY. THIS IS SERIOUSLY A PROBLEM. LIZ ESCOBAR OF SHIRTS SAYS, NO DEFUNDING THE POLICE IN ANY CITY IN TEXAS. RNE SYS WINKY OF DISTRICT SIX SAYS, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SS A P D MENTAL HEALTH EXPANDED THE MENTAL HEALTH UNIT EXPANDED AND MORE THAN SIX OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST ONE SOCIAL WORKER AND TWO OFFICERS OR MAYBE MORE OR LESS PER COUNCIL DISTRICT BASED ON THE HISTORY OF THE CALL. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE THAT WE CREATE A COMMISSION THAT OVERSEES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMPLAINTS RATHER THAN THE COMPLAINTS GOING TO TO THE DEPARTMENT TO INVESTIGATE. THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE COM COMPRISED OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, OFFICERS, SOCIAL WORKERS AND COMMUNITY REPRESENTATIVES, OR EVEN UNION REPRESENTATIVES, VERONICA MORALES OF DISTRICT SIX RIGHTS. I HAVE HAD A VERY BAD EXPERIENCE WITH SS A P D WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS KIDNAPPED BY HER EX-BOYFRIEND BACK IN 2018. I CALLED THE POLICE MANY TIMES AND EVERY SINGLE POLICE OFFICER THAT SAID SHE PROBABLY JUST RAN AWAY AND THAT SHE WOULD COME BACK BE AND THAT SHE WAS 18. SHE WAS AN ADULT. I EXPLAINED THAT SHE EARNED 30 COLLEGE CREDIT. SHE'S A HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATE AND THAT SHE'S NOT GOING TO THROW ALL THAT AWAY TO SACRIFICE OF RUNNING AWAY WITH HER BOYFRIEND. SS A P D NEVER DID ANYTHING TO HELP HER. I HAD TO BEG U T S A IN ORDER FOR THE U T S A POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HELP HER. AFTER FOUR MONTHS, HER DAUGHTER WAS FINALLY FOUND IN HIS HOME SAFE. STEPHAN HARTLEY DID NOT INDICATE HIS DISTRICT RIGHT. I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS EVEN A TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION. HEADLINE IN TOMORROW. IN TODAY'S NEWSPAPER, EIGHT PEOPLE SHOT AT LOCAL BAR DAY BEFORE WAS A DRIVE-BY SHOOTING. ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WHO THINKS THIS IS A GOOD IDEA SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THEIR POSITION, BUT TO THOSE WHO DO FEEL IT'S FEASIBLE, JUST ASK A QUESTION. WHO WILL PICK UP THE SLACK AND THE SITUATION IN THESE SITUATIONS? ENFORCEMENT, WHO'S GONNA ENFORCE SPEED LIMIT? WHO'S GOING TO HELP WITH ACTIVE SHOOTERS? MURDER CASES? SOMETIMES THEY REQUIRE THE OLD CONCEPT CALLED INVESTIGATING SUCH AS ROBBERIES AND ASSAULT. SO UNLESS THE CRIMINALS ARE ALL GOING TO HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART AND NOT COMMIT ANY MORE CRIMES, [01:25:01] YOU HAVE SOME SERIOUS FLAWS IN YOUR PLAN. BRITTANY, THIS ER OF DISTRICT NINE RIGHTS POLICE IN SAN ANTONIO HAVE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB. OFFICERS NEED TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO KEEP THEMSELVES AND THEIR COMMUNITY SAFE WITH THE PROPER TRAINING AND TOOLS TO DO SO. BIG KUDOS TO SAP'S POLICE ACADEMY FOR INVESTING IN THEIR NEW OFFICERS AND GIVING THEM ALMOST DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF STATE REQUIRED HOURS AND TRAINING. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE TRAINING AT THE ACADEMY TO LAST LONGER WITH THE FIELD TRAINING OFFICERS, ALLOWING NEW OFFICERS TO GAIN MORE EXPERIENCE WHILE WORKING WITH VETERANS POLICE OFFICERS. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE OFFICERS AT EACH SUBSTATION FOR EACH SHIFT, ALLOWING FOR TWO OR MORE OFFICERS TO RESPOND FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE, THUS INCREASING SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY. IVANA UM, SHEVANI WRIGHT. SHE DID NOT INDICATE DISTRICT WRIGHT. I WANT TO PRAISE SS A P D FOR BEING SO WONDERFUL. THE DEPARTMENT DOES A GREAT JOB TRAINING OFFICERS. I ALSO WANT TO SAY I KNOW A LOT OF OFFICERS AND THEY ARE VERY KIND AND TRULY WANT TO KEEP THEIR COMMUNITY SAFE. I WOULD RECOMMEND POSSIBLY A LONGER ACADEMY FOR OFFICERS THAT ARE BRAND NEW TO POLICING. I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND MORE PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS. I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR EVERYONE ONCE IN A WHILE THAT A SERGEANT CHECK IN WITH THEIR OFFICERS ABOUT STRESS MANAGEMENT. PLEASE CONTINUE TO GIVE OFFICERS ALL THE TOOLS THAT THEY NEED TO KEEP THEMSELVES AND THE COMMUNITY SAFE. NITA KING OF CANYON. LAKE WRIGHT. I DON'T LIVE IN BEXAR COUNTY, BUT I LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. KAMAL COUNTY AND WHAT YOU DO IN SAN ANTONIO AFFECTS US HERE IN AL COUNTY. DO NOT DEFUND SAN ANTONIO POLICE. THEY NEED MORE HELP. NOT LESS. I'M GETTING RID OF BAD I'M FOR GETTING RID OF BAD APPLES QUICKLY. THEY DO NOT NEED MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS BEFORE SOMETHING IS DONE. MAKE IT EASIER TO FIRE THE BAD ONE. DE HAUSNER OF DISTRICT THREE RIGHTS. MY PRIORITIES AND EXPECTATIONS CONCERNING PUBLIC SAFETY PROCEDURES IS THAT WE CONTINUE TO HAVE LAW AND ORDER AND A POLICE FORCE THAT IS ALLOWED TO FUND AND FUND IT TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE CITIZENS AND PROPERTY OF SAN ANTONIO AND BEAR COUNTY. THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT IN ANY SITUATION. AND EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT AWARE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S POLICIES, I OFFER SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR SOME SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT. THIS WILL ACTUALLY CREATE A NEED FOR MORE FUNDING. NUMBER ONE, INVITE A WORK GROUP OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS ON ALL SIDES OF THE TOWN AND WORK WITH LOCAL POLICE SUBSTATIONS TO REVIEW POLICE POLICIES. NUMBER TWO, PROVIDE CULTURAL SENSITIVITY TRAINING FOR POLICE OFFICERS. NUMBER THREE, EMPLOY MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE PROFESSIONALS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE POLICE ON CALLS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT PLAGUE OUR COMMUNITY. NUMBER FOUR, TRAINING AND ROLE PLAY AND CURRENT DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES ON A SIX MONTH BASIS BASIS. SIX MONTH ROTATING BASIS. NUMBER FIVE, TRAINING ON HOW TO USE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF LETHAL FORCE WHEN DEALING WITH AGGRESSIVE INDIVIDUALS. NUMBER SEVEN, ZERO TOLERANCE OF EXCESSIVE FORCE USE ON THE PUBLIC. NUMBER EIGHT, MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT FOR POLICE OFFICERS WHO MAY BE EXPERIENCING P T S D. NANCY LEE CORDY OF DISTRICT THREE RIGHTS PROVEN PROGRAM THAT THAT SHOULD BE SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED IS A MONEY SAVING. AND THEN SHE LISTS A LINK OF UM, WWW.MOTHERJONES.COM. LAURA MCGUIRE DID NOT LIST THE DISTRICT RIGHTS. THIS RIDICULOUS IDEA OF DEFUNDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS JUST A HUGE POLITICAL FADE THAT WILL ONLY HURT THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE THE WORST IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS IN HIGH CRIME AREAS OF THE CITY. DO NOT JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON OF IDIOTS. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM WITHIN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, REDUCING FUNDS WILL ONLY MAKE THEM WORSE. YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY BY IMPROVING IT, NOT DESTROYING IT WITH BAD DECISIONS. DEBORAH MARTIN OF DISTRICT NINE RIGHTS. SO MUCH HAS TO CHANGE AND THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM AND THE BROADER SOCIETY TO PREVENT MORE KILLINGS OF CIVILIANS [01:30:01] AT THE HANDS OF THE POLICE. BUT WE CAN START WITH ARREST. POLICE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO ISSUE CITATIONS AND MINOR OFFENSES BECAUSE ARRESTS TOO OFTEN ESCALATE INTO TRAGEDY AND EVERY OFFICER INVOLVED DEATH SHOULD BE REVIEWED BY INDEPENDENT AGENCY RATHER THAN LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHO OFTEN HAVE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BECAUSE THEY WORK WITH THE COPS EVERY DAY. THE CORNERSTONE OF EQUAL JUSTICE IS TREATING ALL CITIZENS ALIKE. IF THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM TREATED AFRICAN AMERICANS AT THE ARREST DECISION POINT THE WAY IT TREATS POLICE SUSPECTS SUCH AS, SUCH AS CHAUVIN AND HIS THREE COLLEAGUES, GEORGE FLOYD WOULD STILL BE ALIVE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT ON POLICE CHANGE TO END POLICE BRUTALITY. CALVIN WILLIAMS OF DISTRICT SIX RIGHTS. THE RATIONAL FOR EXISTENCE OF A POLICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE DIMINISHED BY REDUCING THE BUDGET. THE CITY IS GROWING IN POPULATION AND INCREASING IN THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES AS A CITIZEN. AS CITIZENS, WE EXPECT THE CITY TO PROVIDE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH WILL ENFORCE LAWS ENSURE OUR SAFETY, OUR HEALTH, AND OUR POSSESSION, AND PREVENT CRIME AND CIVIL DISORDER. THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR EACH CITIZEN TO HAVE A PERSONAL SECURITY GUARD BY THE POLICE AND ANY CITY EMPLOYEE. AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHICH HAS A POLICE SECURITY CARD MUST RELINQUISH THAT AMENITY. NOW, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS IMPORTANT. ANAYA GONZALEZ OF DISTRICT ONE RIGHTS. HI. AS THE RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ABOUT HOW THE CITY ALLOCATES ITS FUNDS PLACE PLACING MOST OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS IN THE HANDS OF S A P D. IN REVIEWING THE CONTRACT WITH THE POLICE UNION, IT IS CLEAR THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS AT A DISADVANTAGE IN SUCCESSFULLY HOLDING POLICE OFFICERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTION. THE CONTRACT SAN ANTONIO HAS WITH THIS POLICE UNION IS ONE OF THE MOST COSTLY IN THE COUNTRY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT CHANGED. I DREAM OF A COMMUNITY IN WHICH THE MOST MARGINALIZED AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES HAVE ACCESS TO RESOURCES SUCH AS MENTAL HEALTH, EDUCATION AND HOUSING. WITHOUT BEING CRIMINALIZED. CHERYL HICKMAN DID NOT INDICATE HER DISTRICT RIGHTS. FIRST, I DO WISH TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS. I HAVE, SORRY. I HAVE TRULY, I HAVE BEEN TRULY IMPRESSED WITH BOTH SIDES OF CITY LEADERS AND OUR POLICE AND WHAT THEY'RE HANDLING OF BOTH THE PANDEMIC AND THE PROTESTS AND RIOTS. I HAVE A COUPLE SUGGESTIONS THAT MAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE UNSURE, BUT THEY ARE BODY CAMS FOR EVERY OFFICER OF THE LAW WHO WILL BE IN CONTACT WITH CIVILIANS INSTEAD OF THE VIDEO FROM THE CAMERAS BEING CHECKED LATER. MAYBE THEY COULD FILTER TO REAL TIME OFFICERS WHO WATCH AND CAN INTERVENE IN A SITUATION WHEN THINGS SEEM TO BE GETTING OUT OF CONTROL. DEIDRE MCDONALD OF DISTRICT SEVEN RIGHTS. I AM ENDORSING ALL OF THE DEMANDS OF THE POOR PEOPLE'S CAMPAIGN TO END SYSTEMATIC RACISM. POLICE REFORM WILL NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE. THE ABOLISHMENT OF THE POLICE AS THEY ARE CURRENTLY CONFIGURED WILL IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THE CRIMES ARE CRIMES OF POVERTY, DESPAIR, MENTAL ILLNESS AND DRUG ADDICTION. NONE OF THESE CAN BE FIXED BY MORE POLICING BUT ARE MADE WORTH BY THEM. STOP SIGNING IDIOTIC CONTRACTS WITH THE POLICE UNION. CHRISTIE MCCLATCHY OF DISTRICT SEVEN WRIGHTS. I AM A LICENSED COUNSELOR WHO WORKS AT THE SAN, AT A SAN ANTONIO BASED PSYCHIATRIC INPATIENT FACILITY. FOR SEVERAL YEARS, I HAVE SERVED AS A THERAPIST AND TRAINER FOR MENTAL HEALTH WORKERS. I HAVE WORKED WITH PEOPLE WHO HAD HISTORIES OF MENTAL HEALTH CONCERNS, WHO PRESENT, WHO WERE PRESENTED WITH SUICIDAL OR HOMICIDAL IDEATION. THIS FACILITY TRAINED STAFF MEMBER TO USE VERBAL DEESCALATION STRATEGIES WHEN THE PATIENTS IN OUR CARE EXHIBITED VIOLENT BEHAVIOR OR MADE VERBAL THREATS. THE FACILITY ALSO TRAINED STAFF TO USE SPECIFIC TYPES OF HOLD AND RESTRAINTS THAT COULD NOT CAUSE PATIENTS ANY SERIOUS PHYSICAL HARM FORCE AND RESTRAINTS WERE TO BE USED ONLY IN THE VERY LAST RESORT WHEN VERBAL DEESCALATION WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL AND THE PATIENTS WERE IN IMMINENT RISK OF CAUSING INJURY TO THEMSELVES. PLEASE CONSIDER ALLOCATING MORE FUNDS TO HIRE SOCIAL WORKERS, COUNSELORS, AND OTHER MENTAL [01:35:01] HEALTH WORKERS TO ASSIST WITH ASSESSING COMMUNITY MEMBERS. WANDA THOMAS OF DISTRICT ONE RIGHTS. I AM 100% AGAINST DEFUNDING THE POLICE IN SAN ANTONIO AND TEXAS FOR THAT MATTER. HOW OUR MAYOR AND COUNCIL EVER CONSIDER THAT IS BEYOND ME AND MANY PEOPLE I TALK TO AT WORK, CHURCH, FAMILY AND FRIENDS FEEL THE SAME WAY. ONE SHOULD INNOCENT PEOPLE PAY FOR THE ACTIONS OF A BAD COP. NOT ALL POLICE ARE BAD. AND THESE SO-CALLED PEACEFUL PROTESTS, WHICH AT NIGHT TURN INTO LOOTING AND RIOTING AND DESTROYING MONUMENTS AND STREETS ARE PROOF WE CAN TRUST THIS EVIL MOVEMENT OF DEFUNDING. WE NEED OUR POLICE. PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE OUR CITY DEFENSE LIST STANDING. OKAY, AND THE LAST ONE THAT I HAVE FROM SARAH KELLY IS I URGE YOU, DISTRICT ONE, I URGE YOU TO ADOPT ALL OF THE MEASURES IMMEDIATELY. SAN ANTONIO ONLY MEETS FOUR OF THESE MEASURES CURRENTLY. WHILE CONTINUED DISCUSSIONS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT POLICING IN SAN ANTONIO, SAN ANTONIO REMAINDER WILL BE POSTED, THE REMAINDER WILL BE POSTED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE TOMORROW. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. UM, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO STEPPED UP TO SPEAK TODAY AND SUBMIT COMMENTS. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS AND WE'LL USE THEM AS WE GO FORWARD IN REVIEWING AND REVISING OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT PROTOCOLS. THE NEXT TWO PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MEETINGS WILL BE THIS THURSDAY, JUNE 18TH AT 3:00 PM IN CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS. THAT WILL BE A LIVE MEETING IF YOU SIGN UP TO SPEAK THERE. UM, THAT WILL BE LIVE AND THEN A VIRTUAL MEETING ON SATURDAY, JUNE 20TH AT 1130. I LOOK FORWARD TO THESE MEETINGS AND CONTINUING THE DIALOGUE WITH NO OTHER BUSINESS. THE TIME IS 7:08 PM AND THE MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.