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THUMBS UP FROM OUR AV GUY AND THEN WE, I CAN LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'RE READY.OH, WE GOT THE THUMBS UP HERE.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE AND I AM THE DISTRICT THREE, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
MAY WE PLEASE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES? THANK YOU.
[Roll Call]
STAFF.MAY WE PLEASE HAVE THE ROLL CALL? ALL RIGHT.
UH, COMMISSIONER JONES PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER, WE PRESENT COMMISSIONER SIFE PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL PRESENT AND CHAIR MCGEE PRESENT? UH, CORUM IS PRESENT.
UM, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT, PLEASE? TO PROTECT THE HEALTH AND OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE C OVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW SAN ANTONIO GOV SLASH DSV OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3.
TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES.
THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.
STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED AND STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.
LASTLY, FOR THOSE SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENT.
SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION.
[1. (POSTPONED) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700101 CD (Council District 4): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-6 CD MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for two (2) dwelling units on Lot 21, Block 3, NCB 12492, located at 1971 Rayburn Drive. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).]
YOU PLEASE, UM, REVIEW THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE, UH, FOR CONSENT, INDIVIDUAL OR ANY POSTPONE OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS? YES MA'AM.THIS IS CHRISTIE FLORES, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
UH, ITEM NUMBER ONE IS POSTPONED.
THIS IS CASE ENDING 1 0 1 CD LOCATED AT 1971 RAYBURN DRIVE.
THIS ITEM WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY, NEITHER.
WILL ANY UH, COMMENTS SUBMITTED, UH, THE APPLICANT ONCE THIS CASE IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD, IT WILL BE PLACED ON THE ZONING AGENDA AND PROPER NOTICE WILL BE SENT.
[Items 4, 6 (Part 1 of 2), 7, 12, 13, & 15 - 18]
COMBINED HEARING ITEMS ARE AS FOLLOWS, ITEM NUMBER 3 4 6 7 12 13 15, 16, 17 AND 18.THERE IS ONE SUGGESTION, UM, MADAM CHAIR ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, SINCE WE ARE STILL TRYING TO REACH THE APPLICANT FOR THE NA ADDITION, IF WE COULD MOVE THAT TO MAYBE THE LAST ITEM ON INDIVIDUAL.
SO THOSE ARE ALL OF THE CONSENT ITEMS EXCEPT FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND THEN WE'LL GO OVER THE, UM, INDIVIDUAL ITEMS, UM, AFTER WE FINISH OUR COMBINED HEARING.
SO WE ARE, UM, READY FOR TO HAVE THE CONSENT ITEMS READ INTO RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST TO REZONE
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FROM C TWO HS, A H O D TO I D Z ONE HS.A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED IN MS AND NC AND I D Z ONE A WITH USE IS PERMITTED IN MF 18 AND NC LOCATED AT 3 0 3 EL PASO STREET AND SEVEN 17 PECOS LAS.
THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED, SEVEN RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT WITH THE AMENDED SITE PLAN AS RECEIVED.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO C TWO I D Z A H O D.
THIS IS ADDING THE I D Z OVERLAY ONLY LOCATED AT 1 0 3 BAILEY AVENUE AND 1 0 7 BAILEY AVENUE.
THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM HIGHLAND PARK.
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM M I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO M I ONE F WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AND WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AUTO AND LIGHT TRUCK AUCTION, LOCATED AT 1 1 7 3 9 SOUTH ALOR STREET AND 1 1 2 6 5 SOUTH ALOR STREET.
THERE WERE 13 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 12, TO REZONE FROM C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR LIVE ENTERTAINMENT, NO COVER CHARGE, THREE OR MORE DAYS A WEEK TO C TWO CD A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE TO ALLOW FOR FOOD PROCESSING AND STORAGE.
LOCATED AT 5 4 5 5 EVERS ROAD.
THERE WERE 12 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 13, TO REZONE FROM N P 10 TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED IN THE 7,100 BLOCK OF OLD PEARSALL ROAD, THERE WERE 43 NOTICES MAILED.
TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY EFFORTS.
ITEM NUMBER 15 TO REZONE FROM OH 1.5 TO AND OH 1.5 WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO C TWO C D A H O D AND C TWO CD M L O D ONE MLR TWO A H O D WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR A WAREHOUSE OFFICE, FLEX SPACE OUTSIDE STORAGE, NOT PERMITTED, LOCATED AT 12, LOCATED IN THE 12 600 BLOCK OF WEST AVENUE AND THE 200 BLOCK OF WEST NORTH LOOP ROAD.
THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR N C D EIGHT TO R FOUR CD AND C D EIGHT WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AND A CONDITIONAL USE FOR THREE DWELLING UNITS WITH A REVISED SITE PLAN AS RECEIVED.
AND THERE WERE 22 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR AND ONE IN OPPOSITION.
ITEM NUMBER 17, A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO R FOUR CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM LOS ANGELES.
ITEM NUMBER 18 TO REZONE FROM I ONE A H O D TO C THREE A H O D LOCATED AT 53 58 30 BANDERA ROAD.
THERE WERE EIGHT NOTICES MAILED.
TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND THUNDER.
THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
MADAM CHAIR, I ALSO GOT CONFIRMATION ON ITEM NUMBER THREE, AND SO I WILL READ THAT ONE INTO THE RECORD.
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D TO C TWO NA, A H O D, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 9,600 BLOCK OF SOUTHTON ROAD.
THERE WERE NINE NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
AND WHEN YOU'RE READY, I CAN READ THE COMMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONSENT ITEMS INTO THE RECORD.
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OKAY.AND DID WE, UH, A AND DID YOU READ THE AMENDMENT FOR THE NA INTO THE RECORD FOR NUMBER THREE? YES, MA'AM.
UH, THEY CONFIRMED IT AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO READ IT AS A C2 N A FOR THE RECORD.
AND YES, WE'RE READY FOR THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE, UH, ITEM NUMBER, UH, 16.
ITEM NUMBER 16 IS A MR. JUAN FIGUEROA WHO WANTS TO PROTEST, UM, BECAUSE OF COMPLAINTS INCLUDING LOUD MUSIC, MULTIPLE TOWNS, TRASH MATTRESSES, MATTRESSES IN THE ALLEY, UH, NO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
DON'T UPKEEP PROPERTY, CALL POLICE.
AND ITEM NUMBER 18 IS THE STATEMENT FROM THUNDERBIRD HILLS IN REGARD TO ZONING CASE ONE 19.
THE PROPOSED ZONING OF 58 30 BANDERA ROAD FROM I ONE TO C THREE THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN FULL SUPPORT FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT AND AN EYESORE FOR MANY YEARS.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AND SUBSEQUENT FACE SLIP TO THE PROPERTY WOULD BE WELCOME.
CAVENDER BUSINESSES HAVE BEEN A GREAT NEIGHBOR TO THE ASSOCIATION FOR MANY YEARS.
SIGNED DAN ROSSER OF THE THUNDERBIRD THUNDERBIRD HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, MA'AM.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WITH CONDITIONS AS READ IN THE RECORD.
WHERE, WHERE APPROPRIATE ITEMS 3, 4, 6, 7, 12, 13, 15, 16, 17, AND 18.
UM, IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER SIPES.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, FOR APPROVAL WITH A SECOND, UM, ROLL CALL.
[2. Continued from 05/19/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700048 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for six (6) dwelling units, on Lot 4, Block 1, NCB 2183, located at 636 Ruiz Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).]
TO BEGIN WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS, PLEASE.THIS IS CHRISTIE EZ AND SERVICES.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS OUR FIRST INDIVIDUAL ITEM.
IT'S A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR A H O D TO IDZ TWO.
A H O D WITH USE IS PERMITTED FOR SIX SWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 6 36 THROUGH EAST STREET.
THERE WERE 30 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SIX RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
THE CON CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED.
THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM WESTIN HOPE IN ACTION AND GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUBMITTED A LETTER.
STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF SIX UNITS INTRODUCES EXCESSIVE DENSITY IN AN AREA THAT IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
THE PROPOSED USE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CREATES A DENSER HOUSING STOCK, NOT CHARACTERISTIC OF THE AREA.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? PATRICK, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? THIS IS PATRICK.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST.
UH, COULD YOU PUT MY POWERPOINT PRESENTATION UP PLEASE? IT'S UP.
UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE, THESE ARE THE, THE SAME DEVELOPERS YOU'VE HEARD FROM BEFORE THAT BUILD SMALL ONE AND THREE BEDROOM UNITS IN THE, IN DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, THE PROPERTY IS LITTLE OVER 9,000 SQUARE FEET.
I NEED TO FORMALLY AMEND MY REQUEST FROM SIX UNITS TO FIVE UNITS.
COULD YOU PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? SO AS YOU
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CAN SEE, WE HAVE WIDER STRUCTURES AND A AND A SLIMMER STRUCTURE.THE SLIMMER STRUCTURE IS A ONE BEDROOM.
THE WIDER ARE THREE BEDROOM UNITS.
WE HAVE NINE PARKING SPACES, SO EACH THREE BEDROOM UNIT WILL HAVE TWO PARKING SPACES, AND THE ONE BEDROOM UNIT WILL HAVE ONE PARKING SPACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SAS REC REASON FOR STATED REASON FOR DENIAL IS THAT THE PROPOSED DENSITY OF SIX UNITS INTRODUCES EXCESSIVE DENSITY IN AN AREA THAT IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
YOU KNOW, IN BLOCK WALKING THE NEIGHBORHOOD LAST WEEK, UM, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET THERE'S A MOLINA MOLINA GROCERY STORE.
UM, GOING TO THE LEFT, THERE'S AN, THERE'S BASICALLY EIGHT UNITS ON THE EXACT SAME SIZE BLOCK.
THE NEXT PROPERTY'S VACANT, THERE'S A SMALL FACTORY, THERE'S A BAR AT THE CORNER OF BRAZOS AND LOUIS.
AND THEN AS YOU GET ONTO THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, YOU'VE GOT THREE UNITS, TWO UNITS, FOUR UNITS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO US, THEN TWO UNITS AND TWO UNITS, UM, TO THE RIGHT OF THIS PROPERTY.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S CARS THERE PARKED ON THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND THE NEXT SLIDE IS A PICTURE OF THE MOLINO ACROSS THE STREET.
IT'S A VERY BUSY KIND OF RESTAURANT.
AND THEN THIS IS OUR PRO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UM, IT'S KIND OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKING LOT.
THERE'S A TRASH DUMPSTER THAT SERVES THE FOURPLEX NEXT DOOR TO US.
UM, AND THIS IS KIND OF A NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND THIS IS SORT OF THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, A TWO CONTAINER UNIT WHERE THEY BASICALLY DRESS UP THE CONTAINER SO THEY AREN'T, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY APPEAR AS A CONTAINER.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY, THEY'RE VERY NICE NEW STRUCTURES.
THAT'LL BE, UH, THEY'RE NICE LOOKING.
YOU SHOULD BE ON THE FLOOR PLAN OF THE UNIT.
UM, SO THIS IS A TYPICAL THREE BEDROOM UNIT, UM, LIVING AREA, DINING ROOM, ONE BATHROOM AND, AND THREE, THREE UNITS.
UH, NEXT AND LAST SLIDE PLEASE.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THESE ARE EXTREMELY AFFORDABLE UNITS.
THE THREE BEDROOM IS $1,100 A MONTH AND THE ONE BEDROOM IS $450 A MONTH.
UH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE CITY FOR A BRAND NEW STRUCTURE.
SO THESE ARE WELL WITHIN THE AFFORDABILITY.
UM, THE ONE BEDROOM IS 20% OF A M I AND THE THREE BEDROOM AT 56% OF THE CITY'S A M I.
SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS, I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING USES FIVE UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY IS CERTAINLY NOT EXCESSIVE.
I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE EIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, FOUR TO ONE SIDE OF US, AND TWO ON THE, ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, WE DID BLOCK WALK A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO GET TO THE UNITS.
A LOT OF 'EM HAVE GATES THAT ARE LOCKED.
UH, WE DID SPEAK TO THE, THE FAMILY THAT LIVES JUST TO THE EAST OF THIS PROPERTY.
AND BASICALLY WHAT SHE SAID, SHE TOLD ME THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THERE IS JUST TOO NICE.
AND I, AND I FIND THAT HARD TO BELIEVE.
I THINK WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING NICE ON A VACANT LOT.
UM, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS KIND OF BEEN ON FIRE SINCE HAVEN FOR HOPE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, THERE'S SORT OF A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT ACROSS THE STREET TO THE EAST OF THE MO ACROSS THE STREET.
AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MAKES THEM FEEL UNSAFE, BUT I MEAN HOPEFULLY EYES ON THE STREET CAN KIND OF, KIND OF TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND IF YOU NEED A LITTLE REBUTTAL AT THE END, I'M, I'LL BE HERE.
UM, STEPH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES MA'AM.
I HAVE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
SO FIRST IS FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY I, WHICH CONCURS WITH THE CITY'S STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL FOR THE ZONING CHANGE THE PROPERTIES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, CURRENTLY ZONED R FOUR.
BY ALLOWING I D Z ZONING THE LOT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE SIX UNITS CONSTRUCTED ON IT.
THIS DENSITY, ALONG WITH THE IMPERMEABLE SURFACES RELATED TO IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.
THIS IS A LETTER DATED JUNE 16TH FROM PATTY ZION OF THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY.
AND I ALSO HAVE A LETTER FROM MATA.
LET ME JUST DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT ONE BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A VOICEMAIL STATEMENT, UH, FOR THAT ONE.
AND WE, WE ONLY TAKE ONE OR THE OTHER.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A VOICEMAIL FROM MS. MARCELLA GARCIA.
SO WE WILL WAIT TILL THAT COMES UP IN THE
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VOICEMAIL.THEN WE CAN START PLAYING THOSE NOW.
ADDRESS IS 4 0 1 ARBOR PLACE SEVENTY TWO OH SEVEN.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS ONE THREE SEVEN EIGHT ONE FOUR THREE NINE.
I LIVE AT 7 31 Y STREET AND I'M AGAINST THE REZONING.
THE NUMBER IS 1 0 7 0 0 0 4 8.
MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR SEVEN THIRTY EIGHT FIFTY FOUR.
UH, YES, I'M CALLING ON CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 7 6.
MY NAME IS GABRIEL AND I'M AGAINST REZONING CHANGE.
UH, YES, UH, THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO CASE, UH, Z AS IN ZEBRA, 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 0 0 4 8.
MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 2 8 9 6 7 1 9.
AND UH, ALSO RESIDING AT THAT RESIDENCE IS, UH, MY MOTHER WHO IS ACTUALLY THE OWNER.
UH, HER NAME IS MANOLA SILVA AND I'M CALLING ON HER BEHALF AS WELL.
UM, WE ARE BOTH, UM, AGAINST THE REZONING CHANGE, UM, AS IT REFERENCES THIS CASE NUMBER.
SO AGAIN, IT'S STILL WITH SILVA AND MANOLA SILVA.
UM, UH, AGAIN, UH, AGAINST THE REZONING CHANGE.
YES, MY NAME IS LOUIS, L O U I S, LAST NAME MARTIN, M A R T I N.
I LIVE AT 6 4 4 RU STREET, R U I Z STREET, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 72 0 7.
I'M CALLING UP ON BEHALF OF THE, UH, AGAINST THE REZONING.
I'M AGAINST THE REZONING, UH, LAW RULE THAT THAT'S GOING ON IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THE CASE NUMBER IS ZERO ZERO ZEBRA 2 0 2 0 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 4 8.
THIS IS MY NAME, LUIS EL MARTIN JR.
I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY 6 4 4 LEWIS STREET AND I'M AGAINST THE REZONING.
I AM PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TITLED GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, I'M CALLING TODAY TO ADDRESS, UH, THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE.
DESPITE THAT THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WAS EXCLUDED AND BEING MAINTAINED, INFORMED OF THE FOLLOW-UP MEETING FOR ZONING CASE Z 20 27 8 AND THAT NO FURTHER CORRESPONDENCE WAS RECEIVED REGARDING THIS ZONING CASE.
THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, ALONG WITH ITS IMPACTED COMMUNITY RESIDENTS CONTINUE OPPOSING ZONING CHANGE, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE THIS PROJECT.
OUR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HAVE SPOKEN AND EXPRESSED THEIR OPPOSITION TO ZONING CHANGE.
THIS ZONING CHANGE IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TYPE OF HOMES IN OUR COMMUNITY.
IT IS AN OPEN DOOR FOR ADDITIONAL SIMILAR PROJECTS TO COME INTO THE AREA THAT WOULD CHANGE THE CHARACTER, UH, OF OUR AREA.
ALTHOUGH THE AFFECTED LOCATION MAY HAVE OLDER HOMES THAT MAY NEED SOME REPAIRS TO BRING OUT THEIR NATURAL BEAUTY, THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL OUR LITTLE CASTLES.
CHANGING THE ZONING WOULD NOT PRESERVE THE STYLE OF HOMES WE HAVE IN THIS AREA.
THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGES NOT REFLECTIVE OF A RICH CHARACTER OR WEST SIDE WOULD LIKE TO PRESERVE.
THE ZONING CHANGE WOULD ALSO CLEARLY IMPACT INGRESS, EGRESS, AND REGRESS OF OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE SEEN THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN WITH THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THAT HAVEN THE HOPE SHELTER BRING TO OUR LIVING AREA.
WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE HEAR OUR CONCERNS AND NOT LET IT FALL ON DEAF EARS.
THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND ITS RESIDENTS DO NOT STAND BY THE ZONING CHANGE FOR CASE Z 2020 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 4 8.
THIS IS MARI GARZA, PRESIDENT OF THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
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THANK YOU.I LIVE ON FOUR OH NINE ARBOR PLACE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN FOUR THREE ZERO SIX ONE SIX SEVEN AND I'M CALLING FOR CASE NUMBER B 2 0 2 7 0 48.
AND I AM AGAINST THE REZONING CHANGE.
I AM THE VICE PRESIDENT OF GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND AGAIN, I AM AGAINST OF THE ZONING CHAIN.
UH, PHONE NUMBER FIVE SEVEN FOUR SIX TWO THREE AND I'M CALLING FOR THE CASE OF FOUR EIGHT AND I THANK YOU.
THAT'S G I G I N I O RODRIGUEZ AND I'M AN AT LARGE MEMBER OF THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER 2 0 2 0 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 0 4 8.
UM, WHEN THIS CASE CAME ALONG, THE FIRST THING I WOULD NOTICE IS THAT THE AREA IS RESIDENTIAL, MOSTLY HOMEOWNERS.
SO THERE WAS A CONCERN WITH THE ZONING CHANGE FROM THAT POINT.
THEN THE OTHER CONCERN IS AFTER SPEAKING TO THE PRESIDENT AND UH, VICE PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY, I FOUND THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS NOT SPOKEN OR TRIED TO CONTACT THE NEGATIVE ASSOCIATION.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT AFTER SPEAKING TO NEIGHBORS AROUND THE PROJECT SITE, WE FIND THAT THOSE NEIGHBORS ARE TOO AGAINST THE PROJECT.
ONE IS THAT IT WILL NOT FIT THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE OTHER IS THAT IT IS AN I D Z.
THE OTHER IS THAT IT IS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
SO THAT SAID, UM, NOT HAVING HIGH COMMUNICATION WITH THE DEVELOPER AND KNOWING WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ALREADY, UH, THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT FOR NOT BEING, UH, FOR NOT FITTING THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WENT AHEAD AND SPOKE TO THE PRESIDENT, VICE PRESIDENT AND SECRETARY AND TOLD HIM THAT I WAS, UM, GOING TO SAY THAT THE, OR NOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS AGAINST THAT.
WE ARE GOING ALONG WITH WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS AND THAT IS TO BE AGAINST IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTER.
IT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DESIGN TO ALL THE ONE THAT ARE THERE AND PLUS IT SEEMS THAT THEY USE MIGHT EVEN BE DIFFERENT, UH, FROM HOME OWNERSHIP TO SOMETHING ELSE.
MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 4 8 9 9 0 9 7.
HELLO, MY NAME IS JENNIFER AYA.
MY ADDRESS IS, UM, NORTH SAN MARCOS.
I'M CALLING AGAINST THE REZONING.
HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS, UH, JESSE ARGA AND UM, ABOUT CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 0 4 8.
I LIVE AT 7 0 6 RU AND, UH, MY OPINION ON THE REZONING IS THAT I DO NOT WANT THE REZONING.
UM, WOULD LIKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE STRUCTURIZED, BUT, UH, PLEASE NO REZONING TO BE ZO CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES I FEEL.
AND WE WANTED TO KIND OF GO DIFFERENT ROUTE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I DO THINK IT, UM, 7 6 7 2 0 7.
I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER TWO EIGHT.
I AM AGAINST THREE ZONING CHANGE.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 530-4630.
MY ADDRESS IS 6 34 RE STREET AND I'M CALLING ABOUT, UM, CASE NUMBER
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FOUR EIGHT.UM, I'M A MEMBER OF THE GARDENDALE HOME ASSOCIATION AND I AM AGAINST REZONING.
THAT'S ALL THE VOICEMAILS WE HAVE.
UH, WE DO HAVE A LIVE CALLER ON THE LINE.
MR. JACOB SILVA, ARE YOU THERE? UH, YES I AM.
GO AHEAD AND GIVE YOUR STATEMENTS TO THE COMMISSION PLEASE.
HELLO, COMMISSIONER COMMISSIONERS.
UH, MY NAME IS JACOB SILVA AND I'M A MEMBER OF THE GARDENDALE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THESE CONTAINERS WOULD NOT BLEND IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOME AESTHETICS.
ALSO, THIS WOULD PROPOSE DEVELOPMENT WILL RAISE OUR TAXES, WHICH ARE KIND OF HIGH ALREADY.
REZONING COULD REDUCE THE LIVING QUALITY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE PROPERTY SIZE IS TOO SMALL TO SUPPORT TOO MANY PEOPLE IN ONE AREA.
IN CASE, UH, YOU'RE WONDERING, UH, I LIVE AT 6 34.
THE 6 36 RU ACCORDING TO THE MAN, THE, THE PLAN DETAIL.
MY HOUSE IS ABOUT 1500 SQUARE FEET.
THESE CONTAINERS ARE TOO BIG TO SUPPORT SUCH, UM, FOR THE, THE SMALL SIZE OF OF PROPERTY.
UM, IF YOU'LL HOLD JUST ONE MOMENT, LET ME SEE IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, I'VE NOTICED THAT A NUMBER OF THE OTHER CALLERS HAVE HAD THE SURNAME SILVA AS WELL.
IS, ARE THESE MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY? WELL, THEIR FAMILIES, BUT DIFFERENT HOUSES.
AND SO Y'ALL HAVE A, A GREAT DEAL OF THE PROPERTY THERE ON THAT 600 BLOCK OF RUE STREET, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, YES.
THERE'S THE NEXT DOOR TO ME AT 6 28.
UM, GOD BLESS OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR MR. SILVA.
AND MR. SILVA, SO THIS IS A VACANT TRACT OF LAND AND I SEE THAT THERE'S OTHERS WITHIN THE, UH, STREET AREA.
COULD YOU LET US KNOW OR GIMME SOME IDEA OF HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE LAND STAYING VACANT RIGHT NOW? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEING USED FOR THE WRONG PURPOSES AND MAYBE OTHER LANDS ARE DOING THE SAME.
SO DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE VACANT TRACT OF LAND AS OPPOSED TO IT HAVING OWNERSHIP OF HOUSES? NO, MY PROBLEM IS, IS THE HIGHER TAXES ALSO, AND THEN ALSO THE, UM, GETTING THE, THE ATTRACTING THE WRONG, UH, TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT.
AND ALSO TO, UH, THE, THE ONGOING NOISE IN AND OUT 24 7, I'M RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
THEN HOW ABOUT HOW MANY ON THAT STREET ARE OWNERSHIP AND HOW MANY ARE RENTAL? THE WHAT? THE HOUSES EXISTING? HOW MANY ARE IN RENTAL? ON MY HOUSE? NO, EXISTING ON YOUR STREET.
DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF HOME OWNERSHIP THAT, THAT UH, I WOULD SAY ALL OF 'EM.
THERE'S ONLY ONE RENTAL THAT I KNOW OF.
SO THEY'RE ALL O OWNERS THAT LIVE THERE.
AND OKAY, SO IF THESE WERE HOMEOWNERS NOR NOR, I MEAN, THEY'D BE KEPT UP AND YOU'D HAVE MORE EYES ON THE STREET, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT AS OPPOSED TO THE VACANT TRACT OF LAND THAT'S BEING USED CURRENTLY IN THE WRONG PURPOSE? YES.
I'M OPPOSED THAT IT ALTOGETHER.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME MR. SILVA.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTICIPATION.
OKAY, MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME FOR, UH, RESPONSE? UM, FIRST I'M NOT AWARE THERE WERE THAT MANY CALLS, UH, INTO THE, INTO THE COMMISSION.
I DID, I WAS SCHEDULED TO HAVE RECALL A MONTH AGO.
I ASKED FOR A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE SO I COULD GO TO A ATTEND A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
THEY WERE GONNA HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THAT NEXT WEEK DUE TO CORONAVIRUS.
THEY HAD THEM OUTSIDE ON A, UH, PORCH.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE, WE WERE HAVING ALL THOSE THUNDERSTORMS. THEY CANCELED THAT MEETING AT THE LAST MINUTE.
AND I'VE NOT BEEN APPRISED OF A, OF A NEW, UH, GARDENDALE MEETING.
I'LL, I WILL CERTAINLY ATTEND NEXT TIME THEY HAVE ONE, UM, PROVIDED
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I GET NOTICE OF IT.BUT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD
UM, WE'RE TRYING, I, UM, I MEAN, I REALIZE THIS IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DO NOT NECESSARILY OUT OF THE CHARACTER DUE TO THE NUMBER OF THAT EVERY PROPERTY ON THIS BLOCK IS MULTIPLE UNITS.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION IF YOU, WHATEVER YOU FEEL I NEED TO DO, WE WANT TO KEEP TRYING TO, TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF OUR POSITION AT THE, AT THE TIME.
BUT IF WE FEEL LIKE I NEED TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF THESE PEOPLE, I'M HAPPY TO DO SO.
UH, MR. CHRISTENSEN, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE NUMBER OF CALLS IS, IS SIGNIFICANT.
UH, AND CERTAINLY, UH, THE COMMUNICATION OR, OR YOU KNOW, ALLEGED LACK OF COMMUNICATION WITH THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR, OR NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP, UH, SEEMS TO BE A BIG CONCERN TO MY MIND RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS PRETTY SQUARELY SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE.
LET ME ASK, UM, STAFF A QUESTION THOUGH, IF I MIGHT.
UH, IS THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, DID THEY RECEIVE NOTICE OF THIS ZONING CHANGE? ARE THEY THE REGISTERED GROUP? YES, SIR.
THEY RECEIVED THE NOTICE AND THEY ARE THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING WHAT SOME OF MY OTHER COMMISSION, WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY OR ASK ABOUT.
UM, 'CAUSE ON THE ONE HAND, WELL, LET'S SEE WHAT ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS BY SHOW OF HANDS PLEASE.
UH, PATRICK, UM, THE WHO, WHO OWNS THE LOT CURRENTLY? MY CLIENTS HOUSING INNOVATIONS.
THEY OWN IT AND THEY OWN IT? YES.
AND SO WHOSE VEHICLES ARE THOSE? THOSE ARE THE NEIGHBORS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY ASKED ME, SHOULD WE FENCE IT OFF BEFORE WE DO THE ZONING? I WAS LIKE, NO, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE PARKING THERE THAT'LL JUST MAKE PEOPLE MORE UPSET WITH US, YOU KNOW? UH, SO WE DECIDED JUST TO HOLD OFF ON, YOU KNOW, RESTRICTING ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY AND UNTIL WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REZONING AND THE HOUSE NEXT TO THE, I'M GONNA GET THE PICTURE TO THE RIGHT, WHICH IS BLUE.
IS IS THAT A BUSINESS OR RESIDENCE? IT'S, IT'S FOUR UNITS THAT I COULD SEE.
UH, THEY HAVE A TRASH DUMPSTER ON OUR PROPERTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING BEHIND THE STRUCTURE, WHICH ONCE WE MOVE THAT TRASH DUMPSTER OFF OUR PROPERTY, IT'S GONNA CAUSE PROBLEMS, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
AND SO YOU SAID THAT SEVERAL OF THE HOUSES HAVE MULTI-UNITS ALREADY.
AND, UH, WOULD THESE BE IN THE HOUSE ITSELF OR IN THE BACK OF THE LOT ITSELF? HOW, HOW DO THOSE LOOK
THE PROPERTY THAT'S TO THE IMMEDIATELY WEST ADJACENT TO THE MO ACROSS THE STREET HAS EIGHT UNITS.
IT HAS TWO UNITS IN THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, ONE UNIT IN A SMALLER STRUCTURE IN THE BACK, AND THEN IT HAS A LONG STRUCTURE THAT MUST BE EFFICIENCY APARTMENTS.
THERE'S FIVE UNITS BACK THERE AND THERE ARE FIVE METERS ON THE PROPERTY.
I MEAN, THERE'S EIGHT PEOPLE LIVING THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE ALL THEY'RE PARKING.
SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE DENSITY IS REALLY ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE.
WE ALREADY HAVE DENSITY GOING ON AND SOUNDS LIKE THE COMMUNITY LIKES THAT.
UM, UH, ON THE LOT ITSELF, ARE THESE CONTAINERS, ARE YOU SELLING THEM? SO THESE ARE THESE OR THESE WILL BE RENTED? NO, THEY'LL BE, THEY WILL BE RENTAL UNITS.
THEY'LL BE RENT BY TOTAL UNITS.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? I, UM, SO QUESTION FOUR, APPLICANT FIRST.
PATRICK, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M HERE.
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SO, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU VOLUNTARILY REDUCED DENSITY FROM SIX UNITS TO FIVE, AND I, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT'S PROBABLY AN EFFORT TO APPEASE SOME OF THE CONCERNS OUT THERE.UH, WOULD YOU BE WILLING, OR WOULD YOUR CLIENT BE WILLING TO REDUCE ONE MORE? I DO SAY THAT THE DENSITY DOES BOTHER ME A LITTLE BIT WITH THE SIZE OF THE LOT.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOUR CLIENT WOULD CONSIDER? I CAN CERTAINLY FIND OUT.
I, I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I'LL, I'M TEXTING THEM NOW, BUT I'LL TRY TO FIND OUT.
AND MY OTHER QUESTION IS, UH, SO THIS WILL BE RENTAL PROPERTIES.
IS YOUR CLIENT GOING TO OWN AND PROPERTY MANAGERS OR IS THERE A PLAN TO SELL THEM OFF TO ANOTHER INVESTOR? THEY OWN AND MANAGE.
THEY HAVE NUMEROUS, UH, SIMILAR PROJECTS IN DISTRICT FIVE.
THIS IS KIND OF THEIR BUSINESS PLAN IS TO BUILD THESE AND KEEP THEM AND MAINTAIN THEM.
THEY HAVE NOT SOLD ANY OTHER THAN SOME STRUCTURES THEY BUILD FOR, FOR SALE PURPOSES TO BEGIN WITH.
AND COULD I SEE THE SLIDE AGAIN THAT SHOWS WHAT THESE, UH, CONTAINERS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE? PLEASE THAT BE ON MY POWERPOINT.
WE'RE, WE'RE PULLING UP THE POWERPOINT, MA'AM.
WHICH SLIDE PATRICK? UH, SEVEN.
SO I, I UNDERSTAND, I GUESS THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED THAT THIS DOESN'T REALLY FIT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, MAYBE THE APPLICANT, WOULD HE BE WILLING TO DESIGN THEM TO MAYBE BLEND IN BETTER WITH, UH, THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS FAR AS FEATURES? WELL, I, I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO GET SOME KIND OF, UH, AGREED UPON DEFINITION OF WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF STRUCTURES.
WELL, I'M POINTING TO THE, AS THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE MEANS THAT THIS WOULD NOT FIT.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST YOU START THERE POSSIBLY, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF WITH REGARD TO DENSITY.
SO WE WERE AT SIX UNITS, APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO REDUCE TO FIVE.
IS THERE A DENSITY THAT STAFF WOULD BE SATISFIED WITH? WOULD THAT BE FOUR OR THREE? THAT WOULD BE, I WOULD SAY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS MADE UP OF, UH, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
THERE'S ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME HOUSES ON THAT STREET THAT HAVE BEEN OUTFITTED, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL UNITS THAT MAY NOT BE LEGALLY PERMITTED.
UM, SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD, UH, REMAIN WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL.
SO THEN IF A, IF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY WERE TO COME IN AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THE OWNER WOULD HAVE TO RESIDE THERE, HE WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A 180 D U IN THE REAR, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AT A MAXIMUM OF 800 SQUARE FEET, DEPENDING UPON THE SIZE OF THE PRIMARY UNIT.
UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? MUTE MYSELF HERE.
UH, SINCE WE HAVE HIS POWERPOINT UP THERE, COULD YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN AGAIN, UH, WITH THE UNITS ON IT, THE SITE PLAN WITH EACH FIVE UNITS ON IT? IT'D BE SLIDE TWO, PROBABLY SLIDE, YEAH, WE'RE GETTING THERE.
I THINK THAT'S THE ONE THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, COMMISSIONER? YES.
UM, SO TO, I MEAN, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU FIT THERE FINE WITH FIVE.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION TO COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, OUT OF THOSE FIVE, WHICH ONE WOULD GET REDUCED TOWARDS THE BACK, TOWARDS THE MIDDLE, TOWARDS THE FRONT, IT LOOKS LIKE FIVE FITS ON THIS LOT.
I WOULD LEAVE THAT UP TO THE APPLICANT.
I, I'M THINKING PROBABLY THE ONE BEDROOM DWELLING UNIT.
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PATRICK, HOW MANY UNITS ARE EACH OF THESE? THERE'S FIVE.SO HOW MANY WERE ONE BEDROOM? OKAY.
COULD YOU GO THROUGH EACH ONE? WE HAVE ONE.
WELL, WELL, I DON'T HAVE A POINTER.
SO
AND THEN YOU, AS YOU GO FURTHER DOWN THE SITE PLAN OR SOUTH, THERE'S ANOTHER THREE BEDROOM TO THE LEFT, A ONE BEDROOM ON THE RIGHT AND THEN TWO, THREE BEDROOMS AT THE END.
SO JUST ONE BED, ONE BEDROOM UNIT, JUST ONE ONE BEDROOM UNIT? CORRECT.
AND THAT ONE WOULD RENT AT THE 4 36? CORRECT.
I MEAN, IF IT'S, IF IT WILL MAKE THE COMMISSION FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, I BELIEVE MY CLIENT IS WILLING TO GO TO FOUR UNITS.
WE WOULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, TRY TO FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO MAKE IT LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE PALATABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LOOK MORE LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE IN THE FRONT AND UHHUH
I CAN COME UP WITH A NEW SITE PLAN FOR THAT.
I MEAN, I THINK IF YOU, IF FOUR OUT OF FIVE ARE THREE BEDROOM UNITS, AND I, I GET EVERYONE'S CONCERNED ABOUT THE DENSITY OF IT, BUT I THINK THE DENSITY HAS ORGANICALLY HAPPENED ANYWAYS ON THE STREET AND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IT'S, I THINK IT HAS, I THINK THAT'S FINE.
I, I MEAN, IT'S NOT DONE RIGHT, BUT APPARENTLY THE FAMILIES LIKE TO LIVE AROUND EACH OTHER AND, AND, UM, AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DENSITY AS FAR AS THE DESIGN LOOK, I THINK WE'VE COME ACROSS THIS MANY, MANY TIMES AND WE'RE IN 2020, WE'RE NOT IN 20, IN 1950, WHERE THESE WERE DESIGNED DIFFERENTLY.
SO THE, YOU HAVE THE ARCHITECTURAL LOOK OF THE MODERN WITH THE OLD, THE, THE YOUNG, YOU KNOW, AND I, I, I THINK THOSE TEND TO FIT IN FINE.
WE'VE SEEN THEM IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT EITHER.
BUT, UH, FOUR OR FIVE, I'M HAPPY TO VOTE FOR THE FIVE AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD FIT FOR THE LOT.
THIS IS WHAT I D Z WAS CREATED FOR, UM, TO GET THESE LOTS FILLED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS? SO, UM, I, I JUST KIND OF WONDER, UM, I, UNFORTUNATELY THE COMMUNICATION PROBABLY DIDN'T REALLY TAKE PLACE.
IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE MIGHT STILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW,
MAYBE GOING BACK TO THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU CAN WORK OUT THAT MAYBE A ANOTHER TRIAD COMMUNICATION.
I MIGHT BE, IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY.
I, IF IT WERE ME, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD WANT TO, UH, DO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU THINK MR. CHRISTENSEN OR MR. BUSANTE, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE SOMETHING WORTH ANOTHER TRY, I THINK, BUT, OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER LEE, THANK YOU.
UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
HOW LONG HAS THIS LOT BEEN VACANT? WELL, WE PURCHASED IT VACANT, UH, IN OCTOBER OF 2019.
I AM NOT SURE HOW LONG IT WAS VACANT BEFORE THAT, PROBABLY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
UH, MY CLIENT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TRYING TO DO INTEL DEVELOPMENT AND KNOWING THAT DEMOLITION IS ALWAYS A, A, A THORNY ISSUE, THEY'VE KIND OF BEEN CANVASSING DISTRICT FIVE, THE WEST SIDE OF DOWNTOWN LOOKING FOR VACANT LOT SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THAT BATTLE.
UM, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND TRY TO PROPOSE, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OF, A LITTLE BIT OF DENSITY WHERE THEY CAN.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER? UM, UH, I'M IS IT, OKAY, LET ME LEAVE YOU FOR LAST, MR. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, COMMISSIONER WHITE.
YEAH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT I SORT OF TEND TO AGREE WITH, UM, UH, I AGREE WITH YOU MADAM CHAIR, THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME MORE TIME I THINK IN THESE SITUATIONS NEVER HURTS.
UH, BUT I WILL SAY I ALSO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GIBBONS HERE.
UM, IS THIS LOOKS LIKE A, A PROJECT THAT'S, THAT'S OKAY TO ME.
I MEAN, IT ADDS A LITTLE BIT OF DENSITY.
BUT I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT THE FIVE UNITS OR FOUR, UH, AS, AS COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL MENTIONED, UM, ARE APPROPRIATE HERE.
AS FAR AS THE STYLE OF THE HOMES, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THAT AREA A LITTLE BIT, UM, MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, SIX, SEVEN WEEKS AGO.
AND I THINK THERE ARE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT STYLES OF, OF BUILDINGS AND, AND HOMES IN THAT AREA.
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AND SO I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH, WITH THE STYLE OF 'EM.SO, SO I, I LEAN TOWARDS, UM, APPROVING THIS AS WELL, EITHER FOUR OR FIVE.
UM, BUT IF, UH, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS LIKE, UH, SOME MORE TIMES NEEDED SO THAT THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN, UM, THE OWNER AND THE, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, CAN TAKE PLACE, UH, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT GOOGLE MAPS, IT APPEARS THAT THIS LOT HAS BEEN EMPTY SINCE AT LEAST APRIL OF 2011.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN EMPTY FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE ISSUE, AND, AND PATRICK THIS WILL BE FOR YOU GOING BACK TO THAT, UH, SITE PLAN IS IT DOES LOOK LIKE THE PARKING THAT YOU HAVE.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT PLANS DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT? UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME TREES THERE, UH, IN A, IN THAT RECENT PICTURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE CONCERN THAT DOES SEEM LEGITIMATE IS, YOU KNOW, HAVING PEOPLE PARK WHETHER LATE AT NIGHT, EARLY IN THE MORNING, LIGHTS GOING INTO A NEIGHBORING HOUSE.
WELL, WE, WE'LL I WILL SAY WE DO INTEND TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD A SIX FOOT SOLID SCREEN FENCE, MOST LIKELY WOULD AROUND THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND SOME KIND OF PROBABLY A, YOU KNOW, LOW GATE IN THE FRONT JUST SO WE CAN KEEP IN, YOU KNOW, NOBODY PARKS THERE, BUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE OR VISITING.
I MEAN, WE'RE CERTAINLY FLEXIBLE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SOME WAY WE COULD MAYBE SHIFT THE, IF WE'RE SHIFTING THE PARKING AROUND A LITTLE BIT TO SEE IF WE COULD SOMEHOW DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY PUT THE PARKING UP AGAINST SOMEONE'S SOMEONE'S HOUSE, UM, WE'RE WILLING TO EXPLORE THAT.
SO NOW A QUESTION FOR STAFF, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S CLEAR FROM, I GUESS THIS IS REALLY TWO PARTS.
ONE IS LOOKING AT THE ONE-STOP MAP, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE LOOK AT THE SORT OF BLOCK THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CUT IN HALF BY THIS RAIL SPUR, UH, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, TWO TO THREE LOTS DOWN FROM THIS PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, I SEE AN MF 33 ON THE NEXT STREET TO THE SOUTH.
I SEE I ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE RAILROAD.
I SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, GOING THE NEXT SORT OF MAJOR BLOCK OVER MF 33 AND C TWO.
WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE, THE MOLINA THAT'S THERE.
SO I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW, JUST RELYING ON ZONING FOR RIGHT NOW AND, AND WHAT THE RECORDS OF ZONING ARE, HOW DID THE STAFF DETERMINE SORT OF GIVEN THAT MULTITUDE OF USE, UH, THAT THIS WAS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, THIS IS CHRISTIE FLORES.
UM, WELL IF YOU LOOK, WHEN WE DO THE ANALYSIS HERE, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHAT'S WITHIN THE BLOCK.
AND WE CAN SEE THAT A MAJORITY OF THE USES WITHIN THE BLOCK ARE OUR FOUR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, WE TRY TO MATCH THE APPROPRIATE AMOUNT OF DENSITY WITH WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING IN THE AREA.
THAT MF 33 THAT YOU SEE TO THE SOUTHWEST IS, UH, ON A CORNER WHERE YOU WOULD GENERALLY SEE MORE DENSITY.
AND SO ITS LOCATION AT NORTH BRAVOS IN THE, IS APPROPRIATE.
NOW THE, THE I ONE ACROSS THE STREET IS, IS CERTAINLY OUT OF PLACE, BUT A LOT OF THE OLD I ONE ZONING DISTRICTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO ACTUALLY HAVE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND THEY'RE SLOWLY ACTUALLY BEING, UM, ADJUSTED OR REZONED AS NEEDED IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH WHATEVER IT IS, WHETHER THEY'RE DOING A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE EXPANSION OR IT'S PART OF A LARGE AREA REZONING.
BUT, UH, SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, BECAUSE OF HOW IT'S CONFINED IN THE BLOCK AND WHAT IS ALREADY EXISTING IN THE AREA, WE FELT THAT THE DENSITY PROPOSED IS TOO MUCH.
WHICH SORT OF BRINGS ME TO ONE OF THE POINTS IN, IN THE AGENDA MEMO, WHICH IS THAT THIS WAS ORIGINALLY AN I ONE, UH, ZONED PROPERTY AS WELL DURING SOME PART OF THE CONVERSION.
BUT THAT ALSO BRINGS ME TO THE SECOND PART OF, OF THIS KIND OF QUESTION, WHICH IS WHAT DO WE DO WHEN THE SORT OF LEGAL ASPECT OF THIS,
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THE ZONING ASPECT OF IT ITSELF SAYS R FOUR, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYONE'S TAKING ISSUE THAT WHEN PATRICK WENT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HE WAS LOCATING, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE, UH, UH, POWER METERS ON VARIOUS PROPERTIES.UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE, YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE, YOU KNOW, AS WE, FOR EXAMPLE, CHANGE FROM I ONE TO R FOUR TO MORE PROPERLY REPRESENT WHAT'S REALLY IN THESE AREAS, WE KIND OF NEED TO DO THE SAME THING WITH DENSITY WHERE IF WE'VE GOT AN PLEX OR A FOURPLEX THAT, YOU KNOW, HAS ORGANICALLY COME UP, SHOULDN'T THERE BE SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING TOWARDS IN THAT CASE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S NO COMMUNITY PLAN OR SOMETHING SIMILAR.
UM, SO LET ME ASK A, A QUESTION NOW THAT I'VE GIVEN A BIG TALK, WHICH IS, DO THE STAFF OR DOES THE STAFF DISAGREE WITH THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SORT OF OUT OF, THERE ARE USES IN THIS AREA THAT ARE OUT OF CONFORMITY? UH, SO I WOULD SAY, AGAIN, NOT NOT KNOWING THE HISTORY OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY.
UM, WE MAYBE SOME OF THOSE COULD QUALIFY AS A NON-CONFORMING USE MAYBE AT SOME POINT, UM, THEY WERE, UH, SOME SORT OF LEGAL MULTIFAMILY AS A RESULT OF THE OLD J DISTRICT.
UH, BUT THOSE WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS WHETHER OR NOT THOSE MULTIPLE UNIT PROPERTIES EXPANDED SINCE THEN, THAT WOULD ALSO BE LOOKED AT, UH, DURING A NON-CONFORMING YOUTH REGISTRATION PROCESS THROUGH THE S A TOMORROW PROCESS FOR THOSE, UH, AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY PLAN, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK THIS ONE IS PROBABLY IN THE AREA OF THE WEST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN THAT IS, UH, IN, IN IT, IN THE CURRENT PHASE OF PLANS THAT THEY WOULD LOOK AT THAT AT TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE APPROPRIATE LAND USE BASED ON WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.
UM, AND THEN OWN THE PROPERTIES OF, UH, AND ALIGN IT WITH THAT LAND USE DESIGNATION THAT MAY NOT GET THEM ALL OF THE UNITS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE, BUT IT MIGHT GET THEM SOME, UH, AGAIN, DEPENDING UPON HOW THE NE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS DEVELOPED.
BUT THAT IS A PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS IN WHICH ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE COMMENTS.
UM, AND THEN, AND THEN FINALLY, I THINK MY 0.1, ONE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE DESIGN ASPECT, AND, AND I'M KIND OF CONFUSED BY THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY LETTER IN THIS CASE, 'CAUSE THIS IS A VACANT LOT, IT HAS BEEN VACANT FROM SOME TIME AND EITHER STAFF OR PATRICK CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS IS NOT A HISTORIC DISTRICT.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN, THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE RELATED SOLELY TO EITHER HISTORIC DISTRICT OR A HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION INDIVIDUALLY.
WELL, IN THIS CASE, WE DON'T HAVE, AS FAR AS I KNOW, ANY HISTORIC DESIGNATION FOR THE DISTRICT.
UH, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, SO I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GETTING BEYOND OUR SCOPE WITH RESPECT TO THAT.
UM, SO MADAM CHAIR, IF UM, THERE ARE NO OTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION.
AND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, UM, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS TO SOME DEGREE.
UM, BUT I THINK AS COMMISSIONER GIBBONS SAID, IF THERE WAS A PURPOSE FOR I D Z, THIS APPEARS TO BE IT.
IT'S BEEN VACANT FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL IS ALMOST A DECADE.
UH, YOU KNOW, ONE BIG CONCERN FOR ME AS WE LOOK AT LAND USE AND WE LOOK AT PROXIMITY IS THAT I DON'T WANT THE AREAS CLOSEST TO TOWN TO BE SOLELY RESERVED FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD IT.
THIS KIND OF DENSITY ALLOWS FOR GREATER USE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY, UH, TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WITH MORE LIMITED INCOMES.
AND IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE INDUSTRIAL USES ON EITHER SIDE, THE COMMERCIAL USES AROUND IT, UM, THE FACTS ON THE GROUND THAT SEEM TO INDICATE THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE USES, INCLUDING THAT BLUE
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HOUSE TO THE RIGHT, LOOKING SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE SEEMED TO BE AT LEAST SEVEN OR EIGHT CARS FROM THE VARIOUS PICTURES WE'VE SEEN.I'M GONNA MOVE FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED WITH THE FIVE UNIT SITE PLAN.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, FOR APPROVAL WITH THE, UH, AMENDED SITE PLAN BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE ACTUALLY HAD TWO SECONDS.
I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE WAS COMMISSIONER, UH, GIBBONS.
UM, AND THEN NOW IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? SHOW OF HANDS, COMMISSIONER ROMERO? UM, I, I THINK I'M CONVINCED COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, UM, SOLELY BY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
UM, I DO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE GOING AGAINST STAFF RECOMMENDATION, WHICH I, YOU KNOW, I THINK, UM, WHAT WE DIDN'T REALLY GET AT IS THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT KINDS OF LAND USES.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL AND HIGH DENSITY AND I D Z AND THINGS WILL CHANGE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD PRETTY QUICKLY.
UM, SO WE HAVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AGAINST IT, CONSERVATION SOCIETY AGAINST IT, ALL THE NEIGHBORS AGAINST IT.
UM, I'M VERY AWARE OF THE HISTORY OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S WHERE MY HUSBAND'S GRANDMOTHER GREW UP OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO, RIGHT ON THE STREET.
UM, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE CONVINCED ME JUST BECAUSE I THINK YOU PUT A LOT OF THOUGHT INTO THIS, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS? OKAY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UH, APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
[5. (Continued from 06/02/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700078 CD (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3NA AHOD" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2NA CD AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Construction Trades Contractors on 1.514 acres out of NCB 17365, located at 14726 Bulverde Road. Staff recommends Approval with a Condition. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).]
FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE NA, A H O D TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A CONSTRUCTION TRADES CONTRACTOR LOCATED AT 1 47 26 FUL VERDE ROAD.THERE WERE 36 NOTICES MAILED THREE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, FIVE OPPOSED.
AND AS OF RIGHT BEFORE THE AGENDA, I HAVE BREYER WICK AS OPPOSED, BUT I THINK THEY MAY HAVE RETRACTED THEIR OPPOSITION.
WE CAN CLARIFY THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
THE EXISTING C THREE BASE ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA, BUT THE PROPOSED C Q AND A CONSTITUTES A DOWN ZONING OF A MORE INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT AND IS APPROPRIATE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL USES AND ZONING WITH PROPER BUFFERING.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM AND A 15 FOOT TYPE B LANDSCAPE BUFFER ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND LAND USES.
DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT WITH FERMAN 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE SIX 50? UM, I DID HAVE A FULL PRESENTATION SHOULD ANYBODY WANT TO GO THROUGH IT ALL, BUT, UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME AND GIVEN THE CONSENSUS THAT WE REACHED WITH BRIAR WICK NEIGHBORHOOD EARLIER TODAY, I'M JUST GOING TO BRIEFLY TELL YOU GUYS WHERE WE ARE NOW.
UM, THE CONSENSUS WE HAVE REACHED WITH THE COMMUNITY INCLUDES THESE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS, UH, RESTRICTED HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM THE CONTINUATION OF EXISTING AT AND T CABLES ON OUR SIDE OF THE FENCE, WHICH SERVES THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO HOUSE THESE CABLES TO AVOID THEM BEING PLACED IN THE EXISTED PLATTED EASEMENT, WHICH IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UM, IN THEIR BACKYARD.
AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE AT AND T GOING IN AND TRENCHING ALL THEIR BACKYARDS TO BURY THEM.
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GONNA KEEP THOSE CABLES THERE AND OF COURSE, ALLOW AT AND T THE NECESSARY ACCESS TO MAINTAIN THOSE.UM, AND WE'VE REACHED A CONSENSUS ON THE BUFFERING OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY WAS FULLY DEVELOPED AND PAVED OVER 30 YEARS AGO.
UM, WE AND BRIAR WAKE ARE IN AGREEMENT TO WORK TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CITY ARBORIST ON THE BEST ROUTE TO FACILITATE APPROPRIATE BUFFERING TO THE BRIAR HOLLOW RESIDENTS, UH, GIVEN THE EXISTING SITE CONDITIONS.
SO WE'RE WORKING WITH A FULLY DEVELOPED SITE, NOT RAW LAND, UM, BUT WE'VE DISCUSSED THIS SET LENGTHS WITH BRIAR AND, UM, WE WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER OVER THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, UM, AS WELL AS WITH THE CITY ARBORIST, UM, ON KIND OF THE BEST WAY TO BUFFER THAT AND IMPLEMENT THAT MOVING FORWARD.
SO UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWN THIS CONSENSUS WITH BREYER WICK, UM, WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE REZONING FROM C THREE AND A TO C TWO AND A C D WITH THESE CURRENT CONDITIONS.
I DO BELIEVE COMMISSIONER WHITE WANTED TO ECHO AND PROVIDE HIS COMMENTARY AS WELL.
UM, HE HAS BEEN VERY INTEGRAL IN INVOLVING, UM, AND REACHING THE CONSENSUS THAT WE HAVE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I AM OF COURSE, AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS, UM, AND HAPPY TO GO THROUGH THE FULL POWERPOINT IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.
UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
UM, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS STAFF? YOU? YES MA'AM.
THERE IS SOME, UM, WRITTEN COMMENTS.
UM, AND I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THESE ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR NOT, BUT I WILL JUST READ THEM INTO THE RECORD.
I RESIDE AT 39 15 BRIAR HOLLOW STREET.
I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE.
THE COMPANY BACKS UP TO MY HOUSE.
IT IS SO LOUD WITH THEIR, THEIR EQUIPMENT AND BIG TRUCKS AND PARKING.
WE IN FACT NEED TO MAKE CHANGES SO THEY STOP PARKING THEIR EQUIPMENT SO CLOSE TO OUR HOMES.
THIS IS NOT A PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THIS COMPANY.
IT IS AFFECTING THE HEALTH OF PEOPLE, ANIMALS, AND PLANTS IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
THEY HAVE CUT DOWN TREES AND CUT TREE BRANCHES.
AND QUIET BACK, PLEASE HELP SHERRY FLOWERS.
THIS ONE IS FROM ELIZABETH HOGAN.
THE COMPANY BEHIND US MAKES A LOT OF NOISE AND DUST.
THEIR TREES ARE BOWING OUR FENCE AND HANGING OVER OR DAMAGING IT IN OPPOSITION.
THAT'S THOMAS AND ELIZABETH AT 39 35 BRIAR HOLLOW, JEFFREY AND TABITHA SADOWSKI AT 39 10 BRIAR HOLLOW.
OUR PROPERTY TAXES HAVE ALREADY SKYROCKETED.
THIS BUSINESS WILL WREAK HAVOC ON OUR TAXES AND OUR QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT IS QUIET AND NICE PLACE TO LIVE, AND WE DO NOT WANT THE NOISE.
THEY SHOULD BUILD A NOISE ABATEMENT WALL.
AND THEN I AM JUST GONNA SET A QUICK TIMER FOR THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE IT'S A BIT LONG.
ALRIGHT, THIS ONE IS FROM DEB CHICK AT 39 19 BRIAR HOLLOW.
I RECEIVED YOUR ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IN THE MAIL LAST WEEK.
I WRITE THIS EMAIL TO YOU IN ABSOLUTE OPPOSITION OF THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE.
OUR BACKYARD FENCE BACKED UP TO THIS PROPERTY IS INDICATED IN YOUR ENCLOSED MAP.
WHEN MY HUSBAND BOUGHT THIS HOUSE IN 2007, THERE WAS NOTHING BUT A BEAUTIFUL GREEN FOREST OF WILDERNESS BEHIND OUR BACK FENCE.
THIS WAS A BIG REASON WHY WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
LITTLE DID WE KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER PLANNED TO LITERALLY LEVEL IT EVER SINCE.
IF YOU CHECK THE NUMBER OF CODE COMPLIANCE CALLS, RESEARCH WILL SHOW.
THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS REGARDING THIS PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY NEXT TO IT.
THE COMPLAINTS ARE FOR THE FOLLOWING ISSUES.
ONE NOISE AND HOURS THAT THE NOISE STARTS AND ENDS.
I HAVE PICTURES OF A NUMBER OF OLD VIA BUSES AND OLD WINERY BUSES AND SCHOOL BUSES PARKED BEHIND OUR NEIGHBOR, OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S FENCE.
THEY WOULD ARRIVE AND LEAVE DURING THE LATE NIGHT HOURS AFTER 10:00 PM THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT THAT WAS AT ONE TIME PARKED RIGHT BEHIND MY BACK FENCE AND MY NEIGHBOR'S BACK FENCES START UP THEIR BIG DIESEL ENGINES BEFORE THE SUN COMES UP.
DUE TO THE SIZE OF, DUE TO THE SIZE OF CONSTRAINTS OF ATTACHING PICTURES AND EMAIL, I WILL FORWARD THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT PICTURES IN A SEPARATE EMAIL.
THEN WE ALL SMELL THE HEAVY DIESEL FUMES THAT PERMEATE OUR HOUSE IN EARLY MORNING HOURS.
MY NEIGHBOR ACROSS BRIAR HOLLOW FROM ME HEAR LIKE A SONIC BOOM THAT RATTLES THEIR WINDOWS DURING THE DAY.
TWO, EVERYTHING GETS SO DIRTY AND THE DUST FLOWS.
ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES PARK THEIR HEAVY EQUIPMENT HERE.
APPARENTLY THERE'S NO EASEMENT AT ALL.
I REQUEST AN EASEMENT OF AT LEAST SIX FEET TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE REASONS I'VE CITED.
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WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN LIVING WITH ALL ARE LOWERING OUR PROPERTY VALUES, THE SIX TO SEVEN FOOT FENCE, OR A SCREEN OF SOME SORT.THIS ONE'S FROM AARON ANDERSON AT 39 23 BRIAR HOLLOW.
I AM VOTING OPPOSED DUE TO THE CONSTANT NOISE AT ALL HOURS OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.
LARGE VEHICLES PARKED BEHIND MY FENCE AND THE DECREASED PROPERTY VALUE WHEN I SELL MY HOUSE.
WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, TIME FOR RESPONSE? THANKS SIR.
AGAIN, UM, JUST WANTED TO, UH, CLARIFY JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS.
UM, SEVERAL OF THOSE PICTURES ARE FROM WELL OVER A YEAR OLD.
UM, CO COMPLIANCE CAME OUT TO THIS PROPERTY IN JULY OF LAST YEAR, UM, AND NOTIFIED THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, OUR CLIENT THAT, UM, THERE WERE SOME RESTRICTIONS WITHIN, UM, THE C THREE ZONING.
UM, HIS PROPERTY DOES HAVE C THREE, AND THEN HE ALSO OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT IS I ONE.
UM, HE WAS UNAWARE OF THOSE RESTRICTIONS IN THE C THREE, AND SINCE THEN, IMMEDIATELY CLEARED THOSE UP.
CO COMPLIANCE HAS BEEN OUT TO THE SITE AGAIN AND CONFIRMED THAT IT IS STILL IN COMPLIANCE NOW.
SO, UM, ALL OF THOSE KIND OF EXISTING PREVIOUS ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.
UM, AS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED WELL OVER 30 YEARS AGO.
UM, THE BUILDINGS ON SITE WERE BUILT IN 1987, AND THIS WAS IN THE COUNTY BACK THEN, BUT PERMITTED, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY, AND AS I MENTIONED, IT IS FULLY DEVELOPED AND PAVED ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE PROPERTY LINE WHERE WE ADJOINED BRIAR WICK.
SO GIVEN ALL OF THAT, UM, WE HAVE KIND OF A LONGSTANDING SITUATION, BUT THIS IS QUITE FRANKLY, NOT A NEW USE.
UM, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, NOT JUST BRIAR WHITE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THEIR LEADERSHIP CAPACITY, BUT, UM, WITH, UH, INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS AS WELL.
SO, UM, I THINK A LOT OF THE COMMENTS, UM, THAT WE JUST HEARD WERE PRIOR TO US REACHING THE CONSENSUS, WHICH HAPPENED EARLIER TODAY.
UM, BUT WE'VE SPENT THE LAST TWO WEEKS, UM, AND EVEN COMMISSIONER WHITE HAS, UH, PUT IN A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO, UM, SIT DOWN AND HEAR OUT THEIR CONCERNS AND ADDRESS ISSUES, UM, AND, AND MAKE A GOOD PATH FORWARD.
WE DO HAVE A CONSENSUS, AS I MENTIONED, UM, EARLIER, WITH THOSE THREE KIND OF UPDATED CONDITIONS, UM, ON THE CASE, AND, UM, WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD KNOWING THAT WE HAVE, UH, WELL OVER A YEAR AGO RESOLVED THOSE KIND OF OUTSTANDING ISSUES.
BUT, UM, ALSO THAT WE HAVE REACHED A CONSENSUS WITH THE COMMUNITY ON BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE NEW CONDITIONS.
UH, THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER.
UM, SOME MAY REMEMBER THIS WAS ON THE AGENDA, UM, TWO WEEKS AGO.
IT WAS CONTINUED AT THAT TIME SO THAT, UH, THE OWNER COULD WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND, UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED.
UM, I WANNA COMMEND, UM, KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT AND, AND, AND EMILY ESPECIALLY FOR, FOR HER WORK ON THIS MATTER IN HELPING TO REACH THE AGREEMENT THAT WE REACHED THIS MORNING.
UM, I ALSO WANNA THANK, UM, BRAIN TANNER, UM, AS WELL AS, UH, MS. DEF CHICK.
UH, YOU HEARD YOU READ THE LETTER, UM, UH, THAT MS. CHICK WROTE, UH, PREVIOUSLY, BUT I WAS TOLD THIS MORNING THAT SHE WAS CONSULTED BY RAIN TANNER, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND SHE ALSO HAS SIGNED OFF ON, UM, ON THIS AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TODAY.
SO A LOT OF HARD WORK, UM, BY ALL OF THOSE FOLKS OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, UM, INCLUDING THIS PAST WEEKEND.
UM, I WAS OUT THERE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND ON MONDAY, UM, WAS OUT THERE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ON THE SITE, AND EVERYBODY, UM, REALLY PUT IN A, A BIG EFFORT IN ORDER TO GET WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
UM, I THINK YOU HEARD SOME OF THE PREVIOUS CONCERNS IN, IN THOSE LETTERS ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE DUST AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, UH, AS A RESULT OF THOSE CONCERNS, YOU, UH, WILL NOTE IN OUR AGREEMENT, UM, THAT WE'VE RESTRICTED THE, THE HOURS OF OPERATION TO, TO SEVEN TO SEVEN, WHICH, WHICH EVERYBODY'S HAPPY WITH.
AND, UH, THIS BUFFER THAT'S GONNA BE PUT INTO PLACE, UM, WE'VE GOT THE OWNER'S AGREEMENT TO, TO KEEP THE TREES THAT
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ARE ALREADY THERE, AND THERE'S GONNA, IN, IN CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ARBORIST, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NEW VEGETATION PLACED ALONG, UH, THE FENCE LINE AS WELL, UH, TO AGAIN, HELP WITH, UH, NOISE AND DUST.UM, THE, THE FINAL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE TOO, UM, WAS JUST A SORT OF A, A VERBAL AGREEMENT FROM THE OWNER, UM, REGARDING THESE UTILITY LINES, UH, THAT ARE ON HIS PROPERTY, UM, BUT THAT ARE, ARE REALLY USED BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND HE, HE'S ALSO AGREED TO, UH, CONTINUE TO ALLOW THOSE TO BE ON HIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO BE ON HIS SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, EXCUSE ME, AND, AND TO ALLOW THEM TO BE MAINTAINED AS, AS OPPOSED TO THEM HAVING TO BE PUT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE AND TRENCHING AND OTHER THINGS BEING DONE TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
SO EVERYBODY REALLY CAME TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
UM, I'M, I'M PLEASED WITH THE CONSENSUS.
AND SO, UM, YEAH, THERE MAY BE QUESTIONS, BUT, BUT I'LL BE MAKING A, UM, A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THE APPLICATION, UM, WITH, WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
UM, WAS THAT A FORMAL MOTION? UH, YES.
I'LL MAKE THE FORMAL MOTION TO APPROVE.
UH, WHICH NUMBER IS THIS? NUMBER? FIVE.
UM, NUMBER FIVE, UH, WITH THE CON WITH THE CONDITIONS, UH, THAT I JUST MENTIONED.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH, UH, CONDITIONS, UH, MADE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONER? SEEING NONE, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
[8. ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700093 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in "MF-33" Multi-Family District on 10.968 acres out of NCB 10934, located at 7402 South New Braunfels Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
EIGHT.ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM R FOUR A H O D TO I DZ TWO A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED IN MF 33, LOCATED AT 74 0 2 SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS.
THERE WERE 11 NOTICES MAIL THAT TWO WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
THE HOT WELLS MI MISSION REACH ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED, AND THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ARE FOUR AND IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO WITH USE PERMITTED IN MS 33 IS MORE APPROPRIATE ALONG SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS AND ARTERIAL STREET.
THE PROPOSED ZONING WOULD PROVIDE A VIABLE HOUSING OPTION IN AN AREA WITH MOSTLY C THREE COMMERCIAL ZONING.
DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IS IT KEN? CAROLINE? OH, CAROLINE.
CAROLINE, UH, MCDONALD'S? YES, GO AHEAD MA'AM.
UH, THIS IS CAROLINE MCDONALD, BRAD ORTIZ, ONE 12 EASTON SUITE 1360 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPOSED DEVELOPER FRANKLIN COMPANY.
UM, THE ITEM IN FRONT OF YOU IS ABOUT 10 ACRES OFF OF SOUTHEAST MILITARY AND SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS.
I DO HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION IF STAFF COULD, UH, BRING THAT UP.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND WAS SELECTED AS A SITE TO UTILIZE AND IMPLEMENT FUNDS APPROVED AS PART OF THE 2017 BOND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD IMPROVEMENT, UH, BOND PROGRAM.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S PART OF A LARGER 12 ACRE TRACT, BUT THE REMAINING TWO ACRES ON OUR SOUTH SIDE, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE ENTITLEMENT AND ZONING PROCESS AT A LATER DATE, BUT THERE ARE PLANS, UH, FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES.
UH, FRANKLIN WAS CHOSEN THROUGH THE R F T PROCESS AND WE HAVE A LETTER OF NO OBJECTION FOR THE CITY,
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UH, TO PROCEED WITH THIS, UH, THIS PROJECT.SO TO COMPLETE THE PROGRAM AND ALLOCATION OF FUNDS WE ARE SEEKING OF REZONING FROM THE CURRENT R FOUR DISTRICT TO IDZ TWO WITH UP TO 33 UNITS AN ACRE, OR WITHIN THE BROOKS REGIONAL PLAN, DESIGNATED AS URBAN MIXED USE, UH, WHICH ACTUALLY DOES NOT PERMIT THE CURRENT R FOUR ZONING DISTRICT, BUT DOES ALLOW FOR OUR REQUESTED ZONING, UH, DISTRICT AND DENSITY.
UM, NOT SURE IF THE POWERPOINT IS GOING IN FRONT OF YOU, BUT IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE NUMBER FOUR, UM, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S SOME UNIQUE FEATURES ON THIS SITE, UH, INCLUDING ALONG SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS, THE CITY OF GREENLINE TRAIL, OR WHICH WILL SERVE AS A BENEFICIAL AMENITY, NOT ONLY TO THIS DEVELOPMENT FOR THE AREA AS A WHOLE.
UM, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, SPECIFICALLY HIGHLAND HILLS, UH, WHICH YOU HEARD THEY ARE IN SUPPORT IN ADDITION TO TWO ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WERE SURROUNDED BY MULTI-FAMILY TO OUR EAST AND TO OUR NORTH, AND ARE NEAR, UH, TRANSPORTATION, INCLUDING A VIA BUS STOP.
UM, WE HAVE HAD A REQUEST FROM THE ADJACENT H O A, WE'RE NOT WITHIN THEIR BOUNDARY.
AS STAFF STATED, WE ARE WITHIN THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, WE HAVE REQUESTED A MEETING WITH HOT WELLS, SPECIFICALLY THEIR PRESIDENT, UM, ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS, SPECIFICALLY TWO TIMES FOR A ZOOM MEETING, BUT NOT, HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY INTEREST FROM THEM, UM, TO ACTUALLY MEET WITH US.
THEY, THEY JUST WANTED INFORMATION.
UH, WE DID SEND THEM A SITE PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU, UM, BUT AGAIN, CANNOT CONFIRM A MEETING WITH THEM.
UH, WE SUBMITTED THIS CASE ON MARCH 20TH AND, AND WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
SO WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THIS ZONING CHANGE.
UH, WE DO HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DEVELOPER PRESENT WITH US TODAY AND, AND MADAM CHAIR, WE WOULD LIKE TWO MINUTES REBUTTAL, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
UH, STEPH, IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
I HAVE THREE COMMENTS TO READ INTO THE RECORD, AND THEN WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL TO PLAY.
THIS IS FROM CIELO HILLS, L L C.
THEY'RE IN FAVOR, A HUNDRED PERCENT BEHIND THE PROJECT.
IT'LL BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, MISSION HOT WELLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OPPOSES THE CASE.
THEY REQUIRE MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT IN TIME TO REVIEW THAT WAS RECEIVED ONE WORKING DAY PRIOR TO THE ZONING HEARING, AND ALSO FROM HOT HYMAN HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION EXECUTIVE BOARD IS IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING CHANGES TO PROPERTY CALLED GREENLINE NORTH.
OUR HANGUP WAS ABOUT BUILDING HEIGHT, NO MORE THAN THREE STORIES HIGH.
PLUS WE NEEDED TO BE ASSURED OF MARKET RATES FOR SOME APARTMENTS.
BEST, LIZ TRAINOR, AND THEN THE VOICEMAIL.
MY NAME IS DANIELLE ALEXANDER.
I RESIDE AT 1 8 3 9 CHIEF PYRA 7 8 2 2 3.
THE HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OPPOSES THE REZONING PROPOSAL NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 9 3, LOCATED AT 74 0 2 SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS ONE WORKING DAY.
PRIOR TO THIS HEARING, OUR ASSOCIATION RECEIVED A BAY ONE PAGE SITE PLAN FROM THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE IN ORDER TO ADDRESS MULTIPLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS' CONCERNS.
SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON A PROPOSAL NEEDS TO BE CLEAR AND DISSEMINATED IN A TIMELY MANNER.
WE ASK THAT A DECISION ON THIS PROPOSAL BE DELAYED UNTIL A MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE CAN OCCUR BETWEEN ALL PARTIES.
I CAN BE REACHED AT 2 1 0 4 1 6 7 9 6 4 IF REQUIRED.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MADAM TERRACE, BACK TO YOU.
UH, MS. MCDONALD, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.
UM, YES, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT WAS STATED, UH, PRIOR, WE HAD CONTACTED MR. ALEXANDER SEVERAL TIMES TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING.
WE DID SEND HIM INFORMATION HOPING THAT WE COULD ELABORATE ON IT, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH A CALL OR IN PERSON MEETING, BUT HAVE NOT RECEIVED CONFIRMATION OF A TIME
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OR, OR MEETING FOR HIM FROM HIM.SO, UH, THIS ITEM DOES NOT GO TO COUNCIL UNTIL AUGUST.
SO WE, UH, WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO MEET WITH HIM.
UM, BUT AS A WHOLE, WE DO HAVE OUR SURROUNDING OR DIRECTLY IMPACTED NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, SUPPORT.
AND WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD TODAY AND NOT HAVE A CONTINUANCE.
AND AGAIN, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS, UH, THIS ZONING CASE.
SO THIS IS, UH, DISTRICT THREE CASE.
SO, UM, I THINK, UM, AT THIS POINT THAT I'VE HAD, UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS TO ASK.
I'VE, UH, HAD A PRETTY GOOD UNDERSTANDING IT SEEMS LIKE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, MYSELF, I, I'M, I'M WELL PLEASED, UM, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S BEEN TAKING PLACE, UM, OVER THE LAST YEARS WITH THE BROOK CITY AREA.
AND THIS IN FACT IS ANOTHER, UM, ADDITION TO THAT.
AND THEN IT'S TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, UM, THE CITY BOND.
IT'S A GREAT AREA, I BELIEVE, UM, THAT THE LOCATION IS GREAT RIGHT THERE.
SOUTHEAST MILITARY, SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS.
THAT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR THE MULTIFAMILY, UM, COMPLEX TO FACE.
UM, THE STYLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS QUITE NICE AND, UH, SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE, UM, APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA.
I ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT HOW IT, UH, RESPECTS SOME GREEN SPACE AND CONNECTS INTO THE GREEN LINE TRAIL AND EXTENDS IT AS WELL.
SO I BELIEVE THAT IS TRULY A PLUS AS WELL.
AND I AM QUITE ENCOURAGED TO HEAR THAT WE HAVE IN FACT, HEARD FROM MR. ALEXANDER AND THAT THEY WILL BE, UH, REACHING OUT TO THE HOT WELLS NEIGHBORHOOD
SO, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
OKAY, WE HAVE A SECOND BY MYSELF.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
MADAM CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO PROCEED OR DO YOU GUYS NEED A BREAK? I THINK WE GOT A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GO A LITTLE WHILE LONGER.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO KEEP GOING.
[9. ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700097 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1" General Industrial District and "C-3" General Commercial District to "MXD" Mixed Use District on 119.3 acres out of NCB 10847 and NCB 10879, located at 4226 Southeast Military Drive. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA2020-11600021) (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
NINE THEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE AND C THREE TO M X D MIXED USE DISTRICT AT 42 26 SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE.THERE WERE 115 NOTICES MAILED THREE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE PECAN VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR THE REPUBLIC OAKS.
H O A NINE IN OP NINE IN OPPOSITION, EXCUSE ME, FROM REPUBLIC O.
STAFF FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE EXISTING I ONE AND C THREE ARE NO LONGER APPROPRIATE FOR THE SUBJECT AREA.
THE PROPOSED M XT IS MORE APPROPRIATE AS IT AS THERE ARE CURRENTLY ARE FOUR, RMM FOUR AND C THREE USES SURROUNDING THE AREA.
FURTHER, THE REQUESTED M X C WILL PERMIT PERMIT LESS INTENT INDUSTRIAL USES ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL PENDING PLAN AMENDMENT.
MADAM CHAIR? YES, I I DON'T THINK I'VE QUITE HEARD THE, THE, UH, OPPOSITION AND SUPPORT.
WELL, REPUBLIC OAKS HAS SOME MEMBERS, APPARENTLY NINE MEMBERS THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION.
SO I THINK IT'S PROBABLY SAFE TO SAY THAT REPUBLIC OAKS IS AN OPPOSITION.
AND THEN THERE WERE THREE NOTICES
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IN FAVOR AND NINE NOTICES OPPOSED.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? UH, YES.
THIS IS, UH, CAROLINE MCDONALD AGAIN, UH, WITH RAT ORTIZ.
UH, ONE 12 PEON SUITE 1360 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
BITTER BLUE, UH, SPECIFICALLY LAIE DENTON.
UM, JUST TO GIVE A, I HAVE THE POWERPOINT THAT STAFF COULD BRING THAT UP.
UH, ONCE AGAIN, UH, THIS IS THE FORMER REPUBLIC GOLF COURSE, WHICH IN TOTAL WHEN IT WAS OPERATIONAL, UH, WAS 212 ACRES ON BEHALF OF BITTER BLUE.
WE ARE SEEKING A
CAN WE PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE? UM, I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL AWARE, BUT THE GOLF CO COURSE CLOSED THIS YEAR, UH, SPECIFICALLY CITING DECLINING REVENUE.
AND OUR CLIENT GOT INVOLVED AND PROPOSED A DOWN ZONING TO A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
UM, WE DO NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT AS IT'S CURRENTLY THE, OR THE DESIGNATION IS AGRICULTURAL SEEMINGLY.
UH, IT WAS GIVEN THAT DESIGNATION RECENTLY BECAUSE IT, IT WAS A GOLF COURSE, UM, THAT WILL GO BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSION NEXT WEEK.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING ACTIVELY WITH SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE AREA.
UM, SOME, BUT SOME SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THE SITE.
WE ARE PROPOSING 202 HOMES, UH, WITH PREDOMINANTLY THE SAME ZONING AS OUR ADJACENT, UH, REPUBLIC OAK NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE'LL HAVE THE SAME, PRETTY MUCH THE SAME HOME DESIGN AND LOT SIZE.
SO WE ARE SEEKING ANF 25 DESIGNATION TO ALLOW FOR, UH, 300 UNITS, UH, FOUR ACRES OF C TWO, AND THEN 56 ACRES OF THE TOTAL.
119 IS IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND WE ARE LOOKING TO DESIGNATE IT AS PARKS IN OPEN SPACE FOR FUTURE PARK AMENITIES AND TRAIL CONNECTIONS.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, BEFORE WE, WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WE GOT IT JUST BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION STARTED FROM THEIR PRESIDENT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WOODBRIDGE OF BONTE VIEJO.
THEY AREN'T
AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING WITH REPUBLIC OAKS, WHICH IS TO OUR EAST.
UM, SPECIFICALLY WE MET WITH THEM ON MAY 7TH.
THEIR BOARD GAVE THEM INFORMATION, UH, WHICH IS BEFORE YOU TODAY.
UM, WE HAD SOME PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, BETTER SUPPORT TO THE ADJACENT, UH, EXISTING HOMES WITH WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING.
UH, WE DID HAVE ANOTHER CALL WITH THEIR BOARD LAST WEEK.
UH, WE DID, UM, GET, YOU KNOW, THREE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE NOT OPPOSED, BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO GET THE INFORMATION OUT TO THEIR, THEIR OTHER MEMBERS.
UM, SO WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING LAST NIGHT WHERE OVER 50 RESIDENTS ATTENDED EITHER IN PERSON OR BY ZOOM, AND WE WERE ABLE TO CLARIFY THE PROJECT, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, ANSWERING LINGERING QUESTIONS.
UM, SO I THINK WITH STAFF DID SAY THERE ARE NINE, UH, OPPOSITION FROM REPUBLIC OAKS THAT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACCURATE.
UM, I THINK SOME OF THE OPPOSITIONS CAME IN LAST WEEK, MS. MEETING LAST, BUT, UH, OH, I, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE MIGHT'VE, MIGHT'VE CHANGED BECAUSE OF OUR, OUR MEETING.
SO SOME OF THE ITEMS, THERE ARE SOME, SOME CONCERNS.
UM, BUT WE ARE PROPOSING A, UH, 25 FOOT BUFFER, UH, ON THE YELLOW TRACK THAT'S LABELED AS MULTIFAMILY BETWEEN THE EXISTING HOMES AND, UH, ANY BUILDING OR PARKING LOTS.
UM, WE, AND THEN WE ARE PROPOSING A 10 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, THAT ARE EXISTING IN REPUBLIC OAKS AND WHAT THE HOMES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD.
UM, ONE THING WAS CLEAR AT THE, THE MEETING LAST NIGHT AND OUR SEVERAL CALLS WITH THE BOARD, UH, THEY DON'T WANT INDUSTRIAL HERE.
UM, THEY DON'T, THEY DO NOT WANT TO HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL NOISE, UH,
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LIGHTING AND, YOU KNOW, BUILDING NEXT TO THEIR HOMES.HOWEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE WERE SOME PROMISES MADE TO THIS ADJACENT SUBDIVISION, NOT BY US, NOT BY OUR CLIENT, BY THE CURRENT GOLF COURSE OWNER.
SOME OF THOSE LOTS ALONG THE CY LINE WERE SOLD AS GOLF COURSE LOTS.
UM, IT IS VERY UNFORTUNATE AND I, I UNDERSTAND THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS TRYING TO DECIDE ON SOME SORT OF CIVIL ACTION THAT THEY, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY TAKE.
BUT WHAT WE CAN OFFER AND WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS TO PRESERVE A 10 FOOT BUFFER ALONG THAT EXISTING PROPERTY LINE.
UM, THERE'S ALREADY TREES AND SHRUBS, UH, IN PLACE THAT, THAT WOULD REMAIN.
UM, SO THAT WAS HEAVY ON OUR, YOU KNOW, IN THE DISCUSSION YESTERDAY EVENING.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST, WE'RE WORKING ON FORMALIZING THAT, WHETHER IT'S A DEDICATION TO THE H O A OR FOR THEM TO MAINTAIN, UM, OR IT'S, WE'RE SIMPLY GOING TO MAKE IT PART OF OURS, BUT KEEP IT AS A, YOU KNOW, A GREEN SPACE FOR ABOUT 10 FEET.
UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT THAT DID COME UP.
SOME OF THEM AREN'T ZONING LAND USE ISSUES, UM, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO THEM.
SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO RESERVE SOME TIME FOR REBUTTAL, JUST, JUST BECAUSE YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF WHAT SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS ANY SPECIFICS THAT DIDN'T COME UP DURING MY PRESENTATION.
SO WITH THAT, UM, WE DO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THIS RE THIS REZONING SPECIFICALLY THIS, THIS DOWN ZONING.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT, UM, WE, EARLIER WHEN YOU DID YOUR PRESENTATION, THERE WASN'T, UM, DISTORTION WHEN YOU DID YOUR PRESENTATION RIGHT NOW, QUITE A FEW TIMES.
IT WAS ALMOST HARD TO HEAR YOU, SO I'M NOT SURE IF SOMETHING'S CHANGED.
UM, SOMEBODY'S USING UP THE BANDWIDTH AT THE OFFICE OR YOUR POSITION ON YOUR PHONE, BUT, UH, WHEN YOU DO YOUR REBUTTAL, MAYBE IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO HEAR YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, STAFF, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
UH, THE FIRST ONE IS SERGIO KAUNDA ALVARADO.
I DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING BEING BUILT AROUND MY PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU WILL BE KILLING AND DISPLACING ALL WILDLIFE THAT LIVE IN THE WOOD AREA AROUND MY PROPERTY, LIKE ARMADILLOS, RACCOONS, LIZARDS, RABBITS, AND A FAMILY OF CARDINALS THAT NEST IN THE TREES.
I THINK EVERYTHING SHOULD BE BUILT TOWARD MILITARY DRIVES, THE HOMES THAT HAVE WOODED AREAS BEHIND THEM, LEFT ALONE AS NATURAL LANDSCAPE.
THANK YOU MONICA CRUZ AND JOE MINNA WRIGHT FROM 72 0 3 REPUBLIC OAKS WRIGHT.
MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE REQUESTED REZONING TO M X D.
MY QUESTIONS FOR THE MEETING ARE, ONE, THE TREE LINE BEHIND THE HOME IS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PURCHASE? HOW FAR FROM THAT TREE LINE WILL THEY HAVE? THEY M X D HOUSING START THE M X D HOUSING START.
HOW MANY APARTMENTS OR HOMES, WHEN WILL CONSTRUCTION BEGIN? AND WILL THEY BE WORKING REASONABLE HOURS? SOME OF US WORK NIGHTS.
WHAT WILL THE PRICING OF THE HOME BE? WILL THERE BE A PRIVACY FENCE PUT UP AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY? CURRENTLY I AM OPPOSED TO THE REZONING.
MONICA CRUZ, AND I APOLOGIZE, I CAN'T READ THE NAMES ON THIS ONE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A NICOLE AT 70 27 REPUBLIC.
UH, THEY'RE OPPOSED, DETRIMENTAL TO OUR PROPERTY VALUE AND IMMENSE CROWDING CONGESTION.
EDDIE FIKE AT 70 23 REPUBLIC PARKWAY WRITES, MY HOME BACKS UP TO WHAT USED TO BE THE FIRST FAIRWAY OF THE GOLF COURSE.
I'M 67 YEARS OLD AND HAVE HOPED TO SPEND THE REST OF MY GIFTS HERE.
IT WAS QUIET AND BEAUTIFUL FROM MY DECK IN THE BACK OF MY HOME.
NOW IT SEEMS I WILL LIKELY HAVE THE VIEW OF SOMEONE ELSE'S BACKYARD AND THE NOISE OF BARKING DOG, MY PROPERTY WILL SUFFER AS WELL.
SO I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS ZONING CHANGE.
EDDIE BIKE, JENNIFER BARRERA ONE.
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO NEED TO REZONE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
THERE WAS NO MISTAKE WHEN MADE, WHEN THE AREA FOR REPUBLIC GOLF COURSE WAS ORIGINALLY ZONED TO APPROVE ZONING WOULD MOST LIKELY HARM THE WILDLIFE IN THE AREA, ADD TRAFFIC, NOISE AND CONGESTION AND CRIME TO THE AREA AND DECREASE PROPERTY VALUES.
ALSO, THERE IS SUFFICIENT LAND ELSEWHERE
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FOR THE DEVELOPER TO IMPLEMENT THEIR PLANS FOR NEW COMMUNITY HOUSING.THIS GREEN SPACE SHOULD BE LEFT FOR OUTDOOR USES.
A GREEN BELT SHOULD NOT BE REZONED SIMPLY BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER REQUESTED.
TWO, I'M STRONG IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING BECAUSE IT WILL RESULT IN A DECREASE IN ALL SURROUNDING PROPERTY VALUES.
WITH NO MORE GREEN TREES AND WONDERFUL OUTDOOR VIEWS IN OUR BACKYARD, THE PROPERTY WILL SURELY DECREASE.
ADD IN NOISE, CONGESTION, CLOGGED ROADS AND CRIME THAT COMES WITH A REZONING THAT WILL FURTHER DRIVE PROPERTY VALUES DOWN THREE.
I LIVE ON REPUBLIC PARKWAY, WHICH MEANS MY BACKYARD IS DIRECTLY AGAINST THE NOW CLOSED REPUBLIC GOLF COURSE.
WHEN WE PURCHASED A LOT, IT WAS MOSTLY DUE TO THE FLYERS AND ADVERTISEMENTS WE RECENT RECEIVED THAT SPECIFICALLY STATED, RESIDENTS OF OLD OF REPUBLIC OAKS WOULD ENJOY GOLF COURSE VIEWS.
THE GREEN GOLF COURSE VIEWS WERE ADVERTISED AS A BONUS AND WE WERE CHARGED EXTRA, EXTRA FOR THESE GOLF COURSE VIEWS.
THE HOMES ALL ALONG REPUBLIC PARKWAY WERE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THE OTHER LOTS IN THE SUBDIVISION.
SPECIFICALLY DUE TO THE BONUS GOLF COURSE VIEWS, WE PAID A HIGHER PRICE FOR GOLF COURSE VIEWS.
THERE IS A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR DIRECTLY BEHIND MY BACKYARD FENCE, WHICH IS LOCATED IN, IN BETWEEN MY BACKYARD AND THE GOLF COURSE.
CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS PERSISTENTLY STATED THAT WILDLIFE CORRIDOR IS OF UTMOST IMPORTANCE AND MUST NOT BE TOUCHED.
I ASK YOU TO VOTE NO FOR THIS REZONING.
THIS BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF GREENLAND DESERVES TO BE TREATED AND PROTECTED AS SUCH.
JENNIFER BARRERA 69 27 REPUBLIC PARKWAY.
CINDY TAYLOR IS OPPOSED IF IT IN A FLOOD ZONE.
JOHN RODRIGUEZ AND LAURA RODRIGUEZ, WE FEEL OUR PROPERTY VALUE WILL DECREASE.
WE PAID 30,000 EXTRA FOR THE SPOT TO HAVE A GOLF COURSE FOR GREEN SPACE BEHIND OUR HOME WHERE WE CAN ENJOY THE WILDLIFE.
WHY ARE WE DESTROYING NATURAL AREAS OF WILDLIFE WITHIN SAN ANTONIO? JOE AND JACQUELINE SALINAS CONGESTED AREA.
CONGESTED ALREADY WITH TWO NEW SUBDIVISIONS GOING UP, IT WILL BE EVEN MORE CONGESTED AND THERE WILL BE, AND THERE ARE NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS AT THE GOLF COURSE AREA, WHICH MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO EXIT.
ADDING HOMES OR BUSINESS WILL CAUSE A BACKUP AND TRAFFIC EVERYWHERE.
AND THAT WAS JOAN AND JACQUELINE SALINA AT 44 0 2 HARRISBURG.
SHE LIVES AT 72 15 REPUBLIC PARKWAY.
SO THE AREA'S HEAVILY OCCUPIED WITH BEAUTIFUL MATURE TREES AND NATURAL HABITATS FOR SO MUCH WILDLIFE.
THE PURPOSE OF MOVING THIS AREA WAS TO THIS AREA WAS TO APPRECIATE THE VERY THING THE CITY IS TRYING TO TERMINATE.
I PERSONALLY DON'T AGREE WITH CROWDING THE AREA WITH ADDITIONAL HOUSING SUCH AS APARTMENTS AND SINGLE HOME STRUCTURES.
MY FAMILY AND I ARE DEEPLY UPSET ABOUT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT AND WE HAVE LOVED LIVING HERE THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
MY YOUNG CHILDREN TRULY VALUE THE BEAUTY OF THE CARDINALS AND VARIOUS FORMS OF WILDLIFE WHO ALSO CONSIDER THIS AREA.
WE WOULD HATE TO SEE ALL OF THAT DESTROYED JUST TO OVERPOPULATE THE SMALL, PEACEFUL COMMUNITY.
WE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SEE THIS AREA FLOURISH IN ITS NATURAL STATE AND BEAUTY.
I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE MY CONCERNS IN THIS MATTER.
ROSEANNE ORTEGA GONZALEZ LLOYD DENTON IS IN FAVOR.
I A HUNDRED PERCENT SUPPORT THIS CHANGE.
I ASK THE DEPARTMENTS HAVE IN WRITING THAT THEY WILL NOT BECOME SECTION EIGHT OR AFFORDABLE BELOW A POVERTY THRESHOLD.
AND THAT IS SHARON REYES AT 44 30 TEXAS JACK.
AND THE LAST ONE IS JEN BUSANTE.
WE ARE IN SUPPORT, BUT WE REALLY APPRECIATE IF IT COULD BE DONE, BUT WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF ALL CAN BE DONE TO SAVE THE GREENWAY.
UM, DID YOU MS. MCDONALD, KEN BROWN.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S NOT BREAKING UP.
UH, I THINK THAT YOU CAN TELL FROM SOME OF THE, OR A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT A LOT WERE ANSWERED LAST NIGHT, LIKE THE TIMING AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE, UH, THE BUFFERS ARE LOCATED.
UH, THE 25 FOOT BUFFER ON THE MULTIFAMILY TRACK AND THE 10 FOOT BUFFER ON FAMILY TRACK.
THOSE ARE VERY DENSELY VEGETATED, YOU KNOW, ON PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, BY THE GOLF COURSE.
SO THE COURSE WOULD BE SCREAMED, YOU KNOW, FROM THOSE NEIGHBORS.
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I, I THINK WE ANSWERED A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS ABOUT, UH, THE BUFFER.YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OFFERED IT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE, UH, AND THEY CAN ALLOW, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE, UH, TO UTILIZE IT FOR THEIR PERSONAL PURPOSES ALSO.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT A LOT OF THOSE COMMENTS ABOUT THIS BEING A GREENWAY, UH, ARE JUST, UH, MAYBE THAT WAS BEFOREHAND ALSO BECAUSE THIS WAS A PRIVATE GOLF COURSE IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP AND IT ZONED I ONE.
UH, AND SO WE WERE DOING EVERYTHING TO STREAM, UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING FROM THEM.
UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE PROPOSING THE A THE EXACT SAME USE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE SAME, UH, BUILDER.
UH, SO, UH, WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS.
I I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO TO TO SAY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS OPPOSED AS A WHOLE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN A VOTE.
BUT WE'VE HAD THREE LONG DISCUSSIONS AND THE MAIN ISSUE REVOLVES AROUND, UH, THE SCREENING BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY, THE SINGLE FAMILY.
AND, UH, WE HAVE MADE IT A PROPOSAL AND WE EXPECT, UH, A RESPONSE.
AND, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPER WOULD DO, UH, IN DEVELOPING AGAINST A SINGLE FAMILY, EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, WE, UM, WE WERE NOT A PART OF THE REPRESENTATIONS THAT WERE MADE.
WE CERTAINLY DIDN'T BENEFIT IN ANY WAY.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE ACTUALLY, IT, IT SEEMS TO BE BEING HELD AGAINST US.
UH, I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER IN THIS CASE, BITTER BLUE AND LADDIE DENTON, HAVE HAVE A EXCELLENT TRACK RECORD IN THIS TOWN.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE WITH FURTHER, UH, MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WE, WE WILL WORK SOMETHING OUT.
UH, THIS DOESN'T GO UNTIL AUGUST 5TH.
AND SO WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, UH, APPROVAL TODAY AND, UH, TO MOVE ON.
UM, UM, STEPH, CAN WE PUT BACK UP THE ONE THAT HAD, UM, I BELIEVE THE PICTURES OF THE TRAILS? UH, OKAY.
SO, UH, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS THAT ANSWERED, IT'LL GO TO COUNCIL IN, UM, AUGUST.
THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE, BY THE WAY.
SO RIGHT NOW, UH, REMIND ME, HOW MANY, UH, ACRES IS THIS PROPERTY? SOMEBODY? OH, THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.
SO FORTY FOUR, A HUNDRED AND NINETEEN 0.3.
AND INDUSTRIAL, SO IS THE WHOLE PROPERTY, SO THERE'S SOME OF IT'S, UM, ZONED INDUSTRIAL, SOME OF IT'S ZONED, UH, C THREE.
AND SO CAN YOU TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE, UH, PART THAT'S, UH, ZONED INDUSTRIAL, UH, SOME TYPES OF, UH, OF, UH, USES THAT COULD GO THERE RIGHT NOW? STAFF, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.
INDUSTRIAL IS, UH, UH, GENERAL INDUSTRIAL IS, IT TENDS TO BE USES THAT ARE MORE INTENSE IN NATURE THAT GENERATE MORE NOISE, POTENTIAL POLLUTION, HEAVY TRUCKS, UH, TRAFFIC, THAT KIND OF THING.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT COULD GO THERE TODAY UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, DRY CLEANING PLANT, LAUNDRY PLANT, LUMBER, YARD, MACHINE SHOP, UH, PRINTER, LARGE SCALE RUG CLEANING, UH, ABRASIVE MANUFACTURING, AND, UH, BAG CLEANING.
THERE, THERE'S A NUMBER OF MANUFACTURING AND INDUSTRIAL USES THAT COULD GO IN THERE BY RIGHT.
WITH JUST A, UH, BUILDING PERMIT.
AND SO IF, UH, ONE OF THOSE TYPES OF USES WERE TO GO IN THERE TOMORROW, UM, WHAT KIND OF PROTECTIONS WOULD THERE BE FOR THE NEIGHBORS AS FAR AS PRESERVING WHAT'S THERE NOW? UH, GREEN, UH, ANY GREENERY, WILDLIFE, I KNOW LIKE THERE'S TREE ORDINANCES.
SO WHAT, WHAT PROTECTIONS WOULD BE THERE THAT WOULD SAY THAT THEY COULD HAVE THE WILDLIFE IN THE, UM, OPEN SPACE IF IT, IT REMAINED I ONE STAFF.
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SO IN AN I ONE, THE, THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT IS GONNA BE 30 FEET ONLY.UM, AND YOU ASKED IN REFERENCE TO KIND OF THE PLATTING PROCESS, WHICH I'LL LET KATT EXPLAIN, BUT IT WILL GO THROUGH A REVIEW FOR PLATTING AND IT WOULD ALSO, THEY WOULD LOOK AT THE, UM, THE TREE PRESERVATION AT THAT POINT.
ANY, UH, STORMWATER, UH, DRAINAGE WILL BE LOOKED AT DURING THE TECHNICAL, UH, PROCESS FOR THE PLAT.
UM, AND THEY JUST HAVE TO MEET THE, THE, UH, CODE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER FOR THE PLATT TO BE APPROVED.
SO NOT A LOT OF PROTECTION FOR THE NEIGHBORS FROM THE PROTECTION, FROM THE INTENSE USE OF THE I ONE, UH, NO, OTHER THAN JUST MEETING THE CODE REQUIREMENTS.
UM, SO, UH, TO BROWN AND ORTIZ, CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UM, TRAFFIC, UM, WHAT YOU ANTICIPATE AS FAR AS, UH, TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED WITH THE NUMBER OF, UH, HOUSES AND UNITS THAT YOU PLAN TO HAVE THERE? UH, I THINK WE HAVE OUR ENGINEER ON THE LINE, UH, SO I'LL LET, I'LL LET HIM ANSWER THAT.
UH, BUT WE WILL BE CONDUCTING, WE HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND WE WILL BE SUBJECT TO THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY CODE, WHICH MEANS THAT WE HAVE TO, UH, ADDRESS AND MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC THAT WE GENERATE, UH, BOTH ON THE LOOP FOUR 10, UH, FRONTAGE ROAD AND, UH, SOUTHWEST MILITARY SOUTHEAST.
UM, YEAH, IF YOU'RE, LET ENGINEER, UH, ADDRESS THAT, PLEASE.
THIS IS RUSSELL YEAGER FROM W G I ENGINEERING.
THANK YOU GUYS, UH, FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TODAY.
UM, SO TO KEN'S POINT, UM, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE, THE CODE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T MAKE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON, UH, THE AREA FROM A TRAFFIC PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE NOT HAD A SCOPING MEETING SPECIFICALLY WITH THE CITY TO DISCUSS WHAT THOSE MODIFICATIONS WOULD BE, BUT ARE NONE OF OUR ACCESS POINTS CONNECT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY.
AND SO OUR ACCESS WOULD BE TO, UH, THE ROADWAYS THAT YOU SEE IN THE EXHIBIT TO THE NORTH AND TO FOUR 10.
AND IN BOTH LOCATIONS, WE WOULD NEED TO INSTALL THE NECESSARY, UH, TURN LANES OR OTHER ITEMS THAT WOULD PROTECT, UH, THOSE INTERSECTIONS ONCE WE HAVE THAT SCOPING MEETING WITH THE CITY.
UM, BUT THE TRAFFIC IS LESS THAN, UM, WHAT WOULD BE EXPECTED FROM AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CARS AND NOT 18 WHEELERS, SO IT'S NOT AS INTENSE OF A USE AS AN I ONE WOULD BE IN THE CURRENT ZONING.
UM, AND WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT SIMILAR TO THAT, THAT'S ADJACENT TO, TO THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO TO BROWN AND ORTIZ, UM, THE FLOOD ZONE, WHICH IS MORE WHAT, UH, WEST SOUTHWEST, I BELIEVE.
UM, TELL ME AGAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN THAT AREA.
UH, YOU BROKE UP A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S, UH, TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THAT AREA.
SO THE, THE AREA OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPABLE AREA, UH, WHICH WE ARE GONNA DESIGNATE AS PART AND OPEN SPACE, UH, WILL BE UTILIZED FOR, FOR TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
ONE, THE LINEAR, UH, CREEKWAY PATH OR TRAILS, UM, THAT, UH, STUFF ABOUT TO THE NORTH OF US, THE SOUTHWEST MILITARY, BUT WAS INTENDED
AND SO WE HAVE ALREADY STARTED WORKING WITH THE CITY, UH, BRANDON ROSS ON THE, THE TRAIL LOCATION AND, AND DESIGN.
AND WE WOULD DEDICATE, UH, I THINK A 50 FOOT, UH, AREA, UH, A TRAIL AREA THROUGH OUR PROPERTY.
SO, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, THE TRAIL COULD BE CONTINUED, UM, THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE CITY'S FUNDING.
THEY STILL DO HAVE FUNDING FOR THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK, I, I DON'T KNOW THE TIMING ON THAT.
THE REMAINDER OF THAT PARK AND OPEN SPACE AREA WOULD BE INTENDED, UH, FOR ACTIVATED PARK PLACE.
UH, AND WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ON THAT.
THAT'S LONG TERM, UH, BECAUSE OF THE FINANCIAL SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT IS THE INTENT THAT AT ONE POINT WE WOULD DEDICATE THAT ENTIRE PARK AREA TO EITHER THE CITY OR THE COUNTY.
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OR ALL OF IT.AND, AND WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE, UH, ACCESS THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET TO THAT PARK IN OPEN SPACE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GET IN THEIR CAR.
UH, THERE, THERE WILL BE A, A TRAIL OR A PATH THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD SO THEY CAN ACCESS DIRECTLY THAT PARK SPACE, BOTH NEIGHBORS.
UM, SO I DON'T THINK ANYONE SAID IT, THIS IS A DOWN ZONING FROM THE I ONE, BUT THE COMMERCIAL PARK ALONG MILITARY, IT'S CURRENTLY ZONE C THREE AND WE'RE DOWNLOADING THAT TO C TWO TO ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF, OF A STANDALONE BAR OR AUTO REPAIR USE.
AND, AND DID, UH, MY, UH, MY QUESTION WAS THE TRAIL, IT'S GONNA BE ACCESSIBLE FROM BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS? UM, THE ONE TO THE, UM, KIND OF WEST? YES.
UM, AND TELL ME A, IF YOU DON'T MIND A LITTLE BIT MORE, I AM SO, UM, SINCERELY SORRY FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO BOUGHT THOSE PROPERTIES WITH, UH, A PROMISE TO PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IT WAS GOING TO REMAIN A CERTAIN WAY, UM, AND OVERCHARGED.
SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CIVIL MATTER TO ME.
AND, AND, UM, CERTAINLY SORRY FOR THOSE WOES THERE, WOES THERE, BUT LISTEN, SO TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT BUFFER.
UM, THAT, SO IS THERE EXISTING TREES ALREADY THERE IN THE BUFFER? WHAT, WHAT KIND THAT 10 FOOT BUFFER, WHAT WILL THAT BE LIKE FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHOSE, UH, PROPERTY BACK UP TO THERE? AND ALSO RIGHT AT THE, THE, THE 10 FOOT BUFFER, WILL THAT BE SOMEBODY'S BACKYARD OR WILL THAT BE THE FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE? OKAY, SO THE, THE 10 FOOT BUFFER IS VEGETATED ABOUT 95%.
UM, DURING THE TIME OF THE GOLF COURSE BEING OPERATIONAL, SOME OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS PUT, UH, GATES ON THEIR BACK FENCE AND CAME OUT AND CLEARED SOME OF IT.
UM, IT, IT BECAME A
THEY, THEY CLEARED THE GOLF COURSE PROPERTY.
UM, SO, SO THEY WON'T HAVE THE SAME BUFFERING, UH, THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS, BUT IT, IT IS VERY THICK, UH, 10 FEET, AND YOU, YOU WOULDN'T GET 10 FEET BECAUSE IT'S TALL AND DENSE.
UM, SO, UH, THAT'S ALL ALONG THERE.
AND THEN IT'S 25 FEET, UH, FOR THE, FOR THAT ALONG THE APARTMENT AREA.
UM, WE HAVE ESTIMATED THAT THAT WOULD BE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF PROPERTY, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVEN WHAT, WHAT THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO SELL FOR I, AND, AND WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN BECAUSE LOOK, EVERYONE AT THAT MEETING WAS EARNEST AND HONEST AND AND VERY RESPECTFUL.
AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE SAME THING, UH, BECAUSE WHILE WE HAVE NO PART IN IT, UH, WE WANT THEM TO AT LEAST BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, THAT SCREAMING AND THAT WILDLIFE, UM, UH, BUFFER STRIP, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN US AND OUR PROPERTY LINE, WHICH ON OUR PROPERTY LINE, THERE'LL BE A SOLID WOOD FENCE.
THAT WOULD BE THE BACKYARD, NOT THE FRONT YARD.
UM, AND, AND, AND, AND I BELIEVE I HEARD YOU, UH, EITHER YOU OR MS. MCDONALD SAY EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION THAT, UM, YOU'RE EVEN OPEN TO DISCUSSING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IF THEY WOULD LIKE THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD BE WILLING TO EVEN DEEDED IT TO THEM OR, UM, IF THEY WERE INTERESTED.
IS THAT, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT? YES, AND I, IT, IT REALLY WOULD BE A WIN-WIN.
UH, AND, AND THE ISSUE WAS WHEN WE WERE GOING TO DEDICATE IT WAS WHO WAS GOING TO MAINTAIN IT.
AND SO IN THIS CASE, I, I KNOW THE PEOPLE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, 'CAUSE WE SPOKE TO A NUMBER OF 'EM LAST NIGHT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT CLEARED IT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO U UTILIZE THAT PROPERTY.
UH, BUT WE ARE, UH, FULLY SUPPORT THAT, UH, TO EITHER, UH, HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, UH, OR, UH, WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO IT INDIVIDUALLY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE MIGHT ACCEPT IT AND SOME MIGHT NOT.
AND WE DON'T WANT A CHECKERBOARD SITUATION.
SO WE WOULD BE DEFINITELY WILLING TO DE DEEDED IT, UH, TO THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION, AND THEN THEY CAN DEAL INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE INDIVIDUAL LOT OWNERS.
AND THEN MY, MY, I BELIEVE THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION.
DID, DID YOU SAY THAT Y'ALL WERE THINKING ABOUT JOINING NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND COMING ONE WITH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR, UH, THEY BROUGHT IT UP, UH, AT ONE OF THE FIRST MEETINGS AND WE ARE CERTAINLY AMENABLE, AMENABLE TO IT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CERTAIN CRITICAL MASS
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IN HOMEOWNER IN, IN A, IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THIS, AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 250 HOMES, UM, AND ABOUT 200 TOGETHER.UM, THAT CREATES ENOUGH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HOMEOWNER'S FEES TO BE ABLE TO, TO DEAL WITH, UH, THE MAINTENANCE OF, UH, AMENITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO YES, WE WOULD CERTAINLY BE AMENABLE TO THAT.
UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? I GUESS I ASKED THEM ALL.
WELL, IF THERE ARE, UH, NO QUESTIONS, I, UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UH, PROJECT AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE WORKED HARD.
THERE'S PROBABLY STILL SOME MORE WORK THAT, UM, CAN TAKE PLACE, UH, WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETWEEN NOW AND THE TIME THAT IT GOES TO COUNCIL, BUT I, I LIKE WHAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR.
IT LOOKS LIKE SOME GOOD, UM, UM, POSITIVE, UM, ATTRIBUTES FOR THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS.
I LIKE THE, THE PARK OPEN SPACE.
I LIKE THE GREEN LINE, UH, AREA.
AND SO WITH THAT BEING, UM, I MEAN THE TRAILS, THE ADDITION OF THE TRAILS AND THE, UH, ACCESSIBILITY TO BOTH OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS, I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD BALANCE IN, UM, DENSITY.
WHILE WE'RE SAD THAT THE, I DON'T KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE SAD, THE REPUBLIC OAKS, UH, CLOSED SOME TIME AGO, BUT I THINK, UM, THIS IS A, IT'S A PLUS.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER.
WHAT IS THIS? UH, UH, WHAT ITEM NUMBER ARE WE ON HERE? ITEM NUMBER NINE.
I WAS LIKE, I'LL LEAVE YOU HANGING.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY MYSELF.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
UM, ANY, UH, COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FOR THE RECORD BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS THAT RESIDE THERE AND LOSING THE GREEN SPACE AND THE IMPACT THAT THAT WILL HAVE ON THE WILDLIFE.
I THINK WHEN, UH, THE REPUBLIC GOLF COURSE OPENED, EVERYBODY HAD HIGH HOPES THAT IT WOULD BE A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE, BUT WE DO HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE OWNER OF THAT IS SHOWING, UH, I GUESS A LOSS AT THIS TIME AND IS WANTING TO, UH, SELL AND SOMEHOW DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY GIVEN WHAT THE APPLICANT IS BRINGING FORWARD.
I THINK IT'S KIND OF THE BEST OF A BAD SITUATION.
AND SO I FIND MYSELF STRUGGLING IN, IN THAT, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE, THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, BUT I SEE THAT THIS DOWN ZONING ACTUALLY WILL BE BENEFICIAL IN THE LONG RUN AND, UH, ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE CITY REGARDING THAT PARK SPACE.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER WHITE? YEAH, I, I JUST ALSO WANNA SAY THAT, UM, THESE FOLKS OUT THERE, THESE BUSINESS PEOPLE, THAT THEY TAKE THE RISK AND, AND THEY, AND MOVE FORWARD ON PROJECTS LIKE THE GOLF COURSE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ARE REALLY GREAT ASSETS AND AMENITIES TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO WE, WE APPRECIATE THEM WHEN THEY DO THAT AND, AND WHEN THINGS DON'T WORK.
UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT TRULY HARMING OTHERS, I THINK IT'S WITHIN THEIR RIGHT TO, TO SWITCH COURSE AND, AND, AND DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
UH, 'CAUSE NOBODY SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO, TO SIT THERE AND JUST TAKE LOSSES REPEATEDLY.
SO, UM, I COMMEND, UH, THE OWNER ON THIS ONE FOR WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY AS THEY HAVE.
I THINK THEY'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO IT GETTING APPROVED, UH, BY CITY COUNCIL LATER THIS YEAR.
AND, AND, AND ONE OTHER THING.
I I, I, UM, BELIEVE COMMISSIONER NATHANIEL, UH, ALLUDED TO ALSO THE FACT THAT IT'S CURRENTLY, I, ONE I THINK WOULD JUST BE NOT FAVORABLE.
IF SOMEBODY PURCHASED IT AND DEVELOPED AS I ONE, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE FAVORABLE, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORS AS WELL.
THAT WAS ANOTHER, UH, CONSIDERATION I HAD IN MY DECISION.
IF, UM, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, UH, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
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FOR APPROVAL.ARE WE READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM? UH, LET ME JUST CHECK.
UM, DO, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS DO, WOULD YOU LIKE BREAK NOW OR DO YOU WANNA KEEP GOING? THUMBS UP IF YOU WANNA KEEP GOING.
YOU NEED A RESTROOM BREAK?
IT IS CURRENTLY, LET'S SAY 3 0 7.
AND SO WE WILL, UH, COME BACK ABOUT, UH, THREE 12 ISH, UM, FUTURE CAMERAS.
WE'RE READY WHEN EVERYBODY'S BACK ON CAMERA AND UNMUTED.
ALL RIGHT, SO I THINK WE, WHAT WE MISSING? UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES, COMMISSIONER.
I THINK WE'RE, I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH OF FORM.
I THINK COMMISSIONER WHITE SHOULD BE BACK IN A MINUTE.
WE'LL JUST, IF HE DOESN'T COME ON CAMERA.
DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN HEAR ME.
WE'LL JUST, UH, REMIND HIM TO, UH, ON CAMERA IN A MINUTE.
AND THIS IS ONE OF HIS ITEMS, SO, OH NO, WE MAY NEED GIVE IT A COUPLE MINUTES.
OH YEAH, WE, WE, WE SHOULD DO THAT RIGHT?
MAYBE HE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A SECOND.
THE NEXT TWO ARE HIS, AS A MATTER OF FACT, UNLESS WE WANNA, UM, DO YOU ALREADY HAVE THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE WAITING? YES, WE DO.
COMMISSIONER WHITE, UM, IF YOU'RE PRESENT, UM, IF YOU COULD UNMUTE YOUR CAMERA OR UM, CAN YOU TEXT HIM?
IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE COULD MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 14.
UM, 'CAUSE WE DO HAVE COMMISSIONER KAMATH AND, UM, SO I MEAN THAT'S FINE.
DO YOU STILL HAVE TO GET THE APPLICANT ON THE LINE? WE'LL NEED TO GET THE, THE NEXT APPLICANT ON THE LINE, BUT IT'LL ONLY TAKE A MINUTE.
SO WHILE WE'RE WAITING, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE NEXT, UH, YOU GONNA, WE CAN MOVE, UH, NUMBER 14 UP.
YEAH, I'M CLEAR THAT, THANK YOU SIR.
ALRIGHT, SO THEN WE ARE GONNA GO AHEAD
[14. ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700105 (Council District 4): A request for a change in zoning from "NP-10 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Neighborhood Preservation Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to “R-4 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD” Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on 18.35 acres out of NCB 17364, “R-4 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD” Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on 24.09 acres out of NCB 11298 and “R-5 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD” Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on 14.31 acres out of NCB 11295, a total of 56.75 acres, generally located at 9081 Interstate 35 South and in the 9400 block of Somerset Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2020-11600025) (Justin Malone, Planner 210-207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department).]
AND READ NUMBER 14.THIS IS A REQUEST FOR N P 10 TO R FOUR ON 18.35 ACRES OUT OF CCB 1 7 3 6 4 R FOUR ON 24.09 ACRES OUT OF NC B 1 2 98 AND R FIVE ON 14.31 ACRES OUT OF N C B 102 9 5 FOR A TOTAL OF 56.75 ACRES.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THIS THIS IS GENERALLY LOCATED AT 90 81 INTERSTATE 35 SOUTH AND IN THE 9,400 BLOCK OF SOMERSET ROAD THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE WAS ONE LETTER RECEIVED OUTSIDE 200 FEET IN OPPOSITION.
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DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATIONS TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST R FOUR AND R FIVE ARE APPROPRIATE ZONING DESIGNATIONS AMONG EXISTING ADJACENT R FOUR AND MF 33 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL PENDING.UH, IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE? YES, UH, KEVIN, ARE YOU THERE? I'M HERE.
ALL RIGHT, SIR, CAN YOU PRESENT TO THE ZONING COMMISSION PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE ZONING COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU TODAY.
MY NAME IS KEVIN DENDA WITH BROWN AND ORTIZ ONE 12 EAST PECAN STREET REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.
THIS PROPERTY IS AN APPROXIMATELY 56 ACRE TRACK, GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTHWEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF I 35 AND SOMERSET ROAD.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE SOUTH, WITHIN THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN AND, UH, WE HAVE INITIATED A PLAN AMENDMENT FOR THE PROPERTY.
STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL FOR THAT.
UH, TODAY WE'RE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THAT THE PROPERTY'S CURRENT ZONING BE AMENDED FROM N P 10 NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION, A ZONING DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, TO R FOUR AND R FIVE.
UH, STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF OUR REQUEST AND HAS SPECIFICALLY FOUND THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL ALLOW FOR MULTIMODAL CONNECTIONS BETWEEN NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AND EXISTING FACILITIES, SCHOOLS, AND PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA.
I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER OF OPPOSITION, UH, FROM AN ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER.
THIS LETTER OF OPPOSITION RAISES TWO ISSUES FOR OUR CURRENT REQUEST.
SPECIFICALLY THE PROPERTY'S PROXIMITY TO THE LACKLAND FLIGHT ZONE AND POTENTIAL FLOODING HAZARD OF I 35 AND CASTLE LAKE EXIT AND EXIT, WHICH IS UTILIZED FOR ACCESS TO I 35 SOUTHBOUND AND WHICH WILL BE USED BY RESIDENTS OF THE SUBDIVISION.
WITH REGARD TO THE FLIGHT ZONE ISSUE, OUR PROPERTY IS NOT WITHIN THE IDENTIFIED MILITARY AWARENESS OVERLAY ZONE OR LACKLAND IDENTIFIED FLIGHT PATH.
ALTHOUGH NOISE WILL BE HEARD FROM FLYING PLANES, THIS WILL BE NO MORE THAN THE REST OF SAN ANTONIO.
MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THE I 35 AND CASTLE LANE FLOODING ISSUE.
THIS ISSUE WILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THE START OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS ISSUE IS NOT RELATED TO THE CURRENT PROPERTY'S LAND USE OR ZONING AND IS BEST CATEGORIZED AS AN ENGINEERING ISSUE, WHICH WOULD BE REDRESSED REGARDLESS OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON OUR PROPERTY OR ANY PROPERTY IN OUR VICINITY.
I WOULD ALSO ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING THE TWO ISSUES RAISED IN HIS LETTER OF OPPOSITION AND BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE COME TO A MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ISSUES ARE GENERAL ISSUES FACED BY PROPERTIES IN THE AREA AND NOT SPECIFIC TO OR CAUSED BY OUR PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT.
I'LL ALSO NOTE THAT WE PLAN TO CONTINUE AN OPEN DIALOGUE WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER REGARDING HIS ISSUES RAISED AND HOPE TO ASSIST IN RESOLVING THESE ISSUES, ESPECIALLY WITH REGARD TO THE FLOODING OF I 35 AND CASON LANE.
WITH THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR CURRENT REQUEST SATISFY THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN AND WITH A CONTINUED DIALOGUE TO ADDRESS GENERAL ISSUES UNRELATED TO OUR PROPERTY LAND USE ZONING, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND APPROVAL OF OUR REQUEST TO AMEND THE PROPERTY ZONING DESIGNATION FROM NP 10 TO R FOUR AND R FIVE.
I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? STAFF? YES MA'AM.
UH, THIS IS THAT ONE LETTER OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET.
UH, IT SAYS, I HOPE THIS LETTER POINTS YOU WELL.
I'M WRITING IN REGARD TO THE POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGE THAT YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING.
TO BEGIN, WE WOULD STATE THAT WE ARE OPPOSED TO SUCH FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE ARE COMPELLING REASONS.
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THE DEVELOPER TO WHOM THE LAND WILL BE SOLD IS PLANNING ON BUILDING HOUSING.
WHILE THERE ARE MANY REASONS WHY THIS IS NOT, IS NOT CONDUCIVE FOR THAT, WE WANTED TO MENTION JUST A FEW.
THE FIRST IS THAT THE AREA IS ON THE SOUTHBOUND SIDE OF 35 IN QUESTION IN THE FLIGHT ZONE.
THE CURRENT PLOT OF THE FLIGHT ZONE IS SIMPLY NOT ACCURATE AND FAILS TO COVER THE PERPETUAL FLIGHT PATTERNS OF THE AIR FORCE THAT EXTEND FAR BEYOND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S PRESENT MAP.
THE AREA IN QUESTION IS INDEED IN THE FLIGHT ZONE, WHICH SHOULD BE AT LEAST, WHICH SHOULD AT LEAST CREATE SOME PAUSE WHEN CONSIDERING HOW THE LAND WILL BE USED.
PERHAPS MORE TROUBLING AND DANGEROUS IS THE EVER WORSENING FLOODING THAT FREQUENTLY OCCURS WITH LEON CREEK, WHICH IS NOT ONLY ON THE PERIPHERY OF THE LAND ON THE
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SOUTHBOUND SIDE OF I 35, BUT ACTUALLY CROSSES THE ONLY EXIT FOR THIS NEW DENSE POPULATION.IN OTHER WORDS, EVERY TIME THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT RAIN, THE CREEK THAT INTERSECTS CATON LANE AND THE SOUTHBOUND ACCESS ROAD FLOOD, FIVE TO 10 FEET OF WATER OVER THE ROAD IS NOT UNCOMMON WHEN HEAVY RAINS OCCUR AT THE INTERSECTION ANYMORE, LARGELY DUE TO THE WATER HAVING LESS PLACES TO GO FURTHER NORTH.
THE EXPRESS NEWS HAS DOCUMENTED SEVERAL CASES OF CARS BEING WASHED AWAY AND EVEN DEATHS AT THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.
AS NOTED IN THE 2015 ARTICLE BY MARK WILSON, CAR SWEPT AWAY WOMAN FOUND DEAD.
WHY DOES THIS CONTINUE TO BE THE CASE? MAKING IT RELEVANT TO YOUR DECISION? THERE IS NO ENTRANCE RAMP BETWEEN THE PROPOSED NEW DEVELOPMENT AND THE CREEK.
THUS, AS I'VE HAD TO DO FOR THE LAST 39 YEARS OF MY LIFE, THE NEW RESIDENTS WILL HAVE TO DRIVE THE WRONG WAY DOWN A ONE-WAY ROAD IN ORDER TO EXIT THE THE NEXT INTERSECTION AS WELL.
THIS WILL BE THE CASE ESSENTIALLY EVERY TIME IT RAINS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME WITH AN EXPONENTIALLY HIGHER RATE OF TRAFFIC RESULTING FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I CAN THINK OF NOTHING MORE DISHEARTENING THAN THE COMMITTEE DISCOUNTING THIS CRUCIAL FACTOR, ESPECIALLY WHEN FACTORING IN SCHOOL BUSES INTO THIS EQUATION.
THESE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE OTHER ISSUES AT THE HEART OF THIS MATTER.
HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THAT THOSE TWO NEGATE ANY NEED TO TAKE UP ANY MORE OF YOUR TIME.
WE WOULD HUMBLY ASK THAT YOU DO NOT OVERLOOK THESE TWO IMPORTANT ISSUES WHEN ARRIVING AT A DECISION DECISION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, DALE SCH THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU, MA'AM.
UM, UH, KEVIN, WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, TIME FOR A RESPONSE? UH, I, SORRY, THIS IS JAMES MCKNIGHT, ALSO FROM BRIAN ORTIZ.
UM, YEAH, OUR RESPONSE IS, IS BASICALLY PART OF WHAT KEVIN HAD SAID, THAT UM, WE WERE ACTUALLY, WHEN WE TALKED TO THE PROPERTY OWNER, WE THANKED HIM FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THERE WAS SOME FLOODING THAT WAS OFF OF OUR SITE.
IT WAS NOT CAUSED BY OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT CAUSED BY THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OF OUR PROPERTY.
IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF AND WE ARE ACTIVELY SEARCH, SEARCHING OR WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND WE WILL HAVE TO ANYWAY JUST TO ADDRESS ANY OF THOSE ISSUES.
UM, IT IS AN ENGINEERING ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOOD, IT IS GOOD TO KNOW ABOUT, BUT IT IS NOT A LAND USE ISSUE FOR, FOR US.
AND REGARDLESS IF THIS WAS AN R FOUR, R SIX COMMERCIAL OR EVEN MP 10, ANY CARS THAT ARE ON THAT ROAD WOULD EXPERIENCE THE, THE SAME ISSUE.
AND SO, UM, HOPEFULLY ACTUALLY WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT WE WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, EXERT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A LITTLE MORE PRESSURE TO HELP ALLEVIATE THIS ISSUE.
BUT, UM, WE'RE, AS FAR AS THE FLIGHT PATH GOES, WE ARE ABOUT A THIRD OF A MILE FROM THE DESIGNATED M A O Z.
WHEN WE SPOKE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT THAT, HIS, HIS COMMENTS WERE JUST GENERAL, THAT FLY, THAT THAT PLANES FLY OVERHEAD.
IT WAS NOT THAT WE WERE SPECIFICALLY IN A DESIGNATED ZONE.
SO, UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE HEARD AT PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL.
WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED ON CONSENT, THEY, THEY MADE COMMENTS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THESE TWO ISSUES, UM, WHILE THEY COULD BE VALID ISSUES FOR SOMEONE ARE NOT LAND USE ISSUES.
LET'S SEE, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, KEVIN, THIS MORNING, UH, YOU HAD SENT AN EMAIL WITH A LETTER FROM AN ENGINEER, UH, SPECIFICALLY, UH, ADDRESSING THE, UH, FLOODING ISSUE.
UH, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? THAT RIGHT, RIGHT.
WE RECEIVED A PRELIMINARY REPORT FROM OUR ENGINEER.
IT BASICALLY STATES THAT THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 208 SQUARE MILES, WHICH WOULD DRAIN INTO THIS INTERSECTION.
UM, THE PROPOSED SITE WILL DRAIN APPROXIMATELY 29 ACRES INTO THE INTERSECTION.
AND GIVEN THAT THAT IS SUCH A SMALL, UH, OVERALL AMOUNT FOR THE WATER WATERSHED, UM, AND THAT THE SITE IS LOCATED DOWNSTREAM OF THE CREEK, THE INCREASE IN FLOW TO THIS INTERSECTION WILL BE MINIMAL AT MOST.
SO COMMISSIONER KATH, IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, IT IS BASICALLY WHAT THE ENGINEER WAS SAYING IS ONCE WE RECEIVED THIS LETTER, UH, WE TOOK IT SERIOUSLY AND WE, WE TOOK IT TO THE CLIENT AND OUR ENGINEER TO SAY, YOU KNOW, GIVE US, UH, SOME MORE BACKGROUND OF WHAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS.
AND HIS STUDIES WERE IN, IN THIS LETTER IS BASICALLY TELLING US THAT, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF IS NOT, UM, HURTING THE ISSUE ANYMORE.
THE ISSUE IS, IS A, A ROAD FLOODING ISSUE
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OFFSITE.SO, UM, HE WAS JUST KIND OF CONFIRMING THAT FOR US, THAT, THAT OUR DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY WASN'T PART OF THE PROBLEM.
AND A MORE DETAIL, AS IT SAYS IN THE LAST PART OF HIS LETTER, HE DOES SAY A MORE DETAILED DRAINAGE ANALYSIS, UM, MEETING THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO STORMWATER CRITERIA MANUAL, SHOWING THOSE IMPACTS, UH, WILL BE REQUIRED.
SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR SURE.
ISN'T THE, UH, DRAINING ISSUE ALSO SHOULD BE ADDRESSED BY THE, UH, TEXT DOT TEXT DOT, UH, WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, UH, HIGHWAY, HIGHWAY 35 AND YOU GOT THE, UH, FLOODING IS COMING ON TO THE 35, I MEAN, RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND EVEN PLANNING COMMISSION DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD ASK THE CASE MANAGER FOR THIS TO, UH, TALK WITH SAN ANTONIO'S T C I DEPARTMENT AND ALERT THEM TO THE FLOODING ISSUE.
AND TEXTILE WILL BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION AS WELL, I'M SURE.
UM, ONE LAST QUESTION ARE, ARE YOU GONNA LET THE BUYERS, UH, KNOW ABOUT THE FLOODING ISSUE AT ALL? THEY, THEY ARE AWARE OF IT.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S WHO WE'RE WORKING WITH.
UH, THE DEVELOPER IS ALSO THE BUYER, SO, UH, WE, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT ISSUE RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ON THIS.
I JUST LET THE OTHER, OTHER COMMISSIONERS ASK ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMAN.
SO, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? UM, I, I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, THEY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, FOR THE APPLICANT, PLEASE, UM, HAVING TO DRIVE ONE WAY THE WRONG WAY.
SO IS IT ANYTHING IN YOUR PLAN, ARE YOU AWARE OF THAT? IS ANYTHING IN YOUR PLAN GOING TO ALLEVIATE THAT? RIGHT.
WE ACTUALLY, UM, WE ASKED THE APPLICANT THAT, OR I'M SORRY, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER NEXT TO US.
I MEAN, BOTH KEVIN AND I WERE ON THE LINE.
WE DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE IT WAS.
UM, THAT CERTAINLY WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED OR THAT OUR RESIDENTS WOULD BE DOING.
UM, AND TO BE HONEST, I, WE COULD NOT TELL WHERE IT WAS HE WAS REFERRING.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER KAMAN, THE, UM, I HAVE ONE, ONE OTHER CONCERN, AND I JUST, UH, WANTED TO ASK THE APPLICANT, UH, UH, ONE MORE QUESTION.
SEE, YOU, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN HERE.
UM, WOULD THE HOME BUYERS OR THE BUYERS OR THESE, UH, LOTS WILL BE AWARE OF THE FLOODING SITUATION? YES.
WE WILL MAKE THEM AWARE OF THAT FLOODING ISSUE.
AND MADAM CHAIR, I THINK COMMISSIONER GIBBONS HAD A COMMENT OR QUESTION.
OH, FOR SOME REASON, UH, SHOOT, NOT FALLING BACK ON MY SCREEN.
LET ME JUST, UM, WHAT IN THE WORLD IS, OH, THAT'S BETTER.
UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS FOR NOT SEEING, UH, YOUR HAND.
UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, I WAS GONNA START WAVING
THANK YOU, UH, TO THE APPLICANT.
DOES THIS REQUIRE YOU TO NOTE ON THE PLAT ANY NOISE LEVEL SINCE YOU'RE OVER THAT FLIGHT ZONE OF BLACKLAND? AND DOES IT REQUIRE, IF THE NOTE IS TO BE ON THE PLAT, DOES IT REQUIRE ALSO WITH ANY TRANSACTION WHEN YOU DO SELL PROPERTY? I DON'T BELIEVE SO BECAUSE WE ARE OUTSIDE OF THE DESIGNATED ZONE.
UM, HOWEVER, FOR, FOR OUR BUYER AND DEVELOPER, IT'S CERTAINLY PART OF THEIR, UM, MATERIALS WHEN THEY'RE SELLING HOMES TO MAKE THESE THINGS, TO MAKE THE BUYERS AWARE.
UM, SOUND ATTENUATION IS ALWAYS ON THE TABLE FOR PROPERTIES LIKE THIS.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE, UM, AGREED TO THAT YET, BUT, UM, CERTAINLY WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IT AND MAKING SURE IT'S PART OF WHAT WE TALK TO BUYERS ABOUT.
BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE OVER THE AIRPORT OVERLAY, AREN'T YOU? WHERE THE A O GENERALLY, GENERALLY, LIKE
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YOU ARE, MAYBE? NO.I JUST MEAN, UM, WE'RE NOT IN A SPECIFIC, UM, UH, ZONE, BUT THE OVERLAY ZONE, YES.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE NOISE LEVEL IS CURRENTLY? NO, MA'AM.
WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC READINGS ON THE NOISE LEVEL ON THE PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER PEN.
IF THERE IS NO OTHER, UH, FURTHER QUESTIONS, UH, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 14 FOR THE REZONING.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? A SEEING NONE? UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT, MADAM CHAIR, WHEN YOU'RE READY, I CAN GO BACK TO ITEM 10.
[10. ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700099 (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "MF-33 AHOD" Multi-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-1 AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for twenty (20) dwelling units on Lots 29, 30, 31 and 32, NCB 11876, located at 1841 Flamingo Drive. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2020-11600032) (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
REQUEST TO REZONE FROM MF 33 A H O D TO I D Z ONE A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 20 DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1841 FLAMINGO DRIVE.THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED 11 NOTICES MAILED IN FAVOR.
NORTHWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
THERE ARE FOUR OTHERS OUTSIDE OF THE BUFFER IN SUPPORT AND THREE OUTSIDE OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST, THERE WERE 20 SIGNATURES ON A PETITION IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO JULY THE SEVENTH.
AND, UH, WE ARE RESERVING ALL OF THE COMMENTS BECAUSE THERE ARE MORE THAN 20 PROBABLY, UH, FOR THIS CASE TO THE JULY 7TH MEETING SHOULD THE ITEM BE CONTINUED.
IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? PATRICK, ARE YOU THERE? YES.
I AM REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE FOR ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ANY, UH, AND WE'RE RESERVING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I'M TO, UH, TURN IT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE.
UM, JUST COMMEND ALL PARTIES ON THIS ONE.
A LOT OF WORK BEING DONE, UM, TO REACH AN AGREEMENT, UH, WHICH I, I HOPE WE'LL HAVE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
SO I MAKE A MOTION, UH, FOR THE CONTINUANCE TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO, UH, IS IT JULY 7TH? YES, SIR.
MOTION TO CONTINUE TO JULY 7TH.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE THIS SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO JULY 7TH, MADE BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
MR. DEANTE, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? JUST SO WE KEEP SAYING TWO WEEKS, AND I BELIEVE JULY 7TH IS THREE WEEKS, JUST SO THE PUBLIC ISN'T CONFUSED BY THAT.
THANK COMMISSIONER ROMERO FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS OR, UM, QUESTIONS? AND, UH, UH, OH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, I THINK YOU KNOCKED STUFF OFF.
UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO JULY 7TH.
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COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES.[11. ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700102 (Council District 10): A request for a change in zoning from "NP-10 AHOD" Neighborhood Preservation Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-5 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot P-25B and Lot P-25C, NCB 17365, located at 3948 Jung Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner 210-207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department).]
ITEM NUMBER 11.THIS IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM N P 10 A H O D TO R FIVE A H O D, LOCATED AT 39 48 JUNG ROAD.
THERE WERE 50 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION.
AND NO, THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
HOWEVER, WE DID GET A LETTER OF OPPOSITION FROM GREEN SPRINGS VALLEY, H O A, WHICH ARE OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.
THE CURRENT NP 10 NEIGHBORHOOD PRESERVATION DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR LARGE LOT DEVELOPMENT.
THE PROPOSED R FIVE IS MORE APPROPRIATE IN DENSITY FOR THE AREA AND WILL PROVIDE MORE HOUSING OPTIONS.
IT IS ALSO, IT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT LAND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MR. MORENO, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I AM.
UH, LET THE COMMISSION KNOW ABOUT YOUR PROJECT, PLEASE.
OUR LOCATION IS 16 1 0 3 VIA SHANO, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 4 9.
UM, WE HAVE PUT IN A REQUEST TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY, UH, FROM MP 10 TO R FIVE.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROPERTY, UH, FOR A COUPLE MONTHS NOW.
UH, AND, UH, WE PUT OUR APPLICATION IN IN MARCH.
UM, WE HAVE PLANS TO, UH, TO, UH, BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY HERE.
UM, SO I, I JUST NOTICED THAT THE, UH, THE POWERPOINT'S BEING PUT UP.
UM, SO THE, THE PROPERTY, UH, HAS, HAS BEEN VACANT FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
UH, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 16 ACRES.
UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE, UH, FIRST POWERPOINT SLIDE, UH, ALL OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES ARE EITHER ZONED, UH, R SIX, UH, THE ONES, UH, THAT ARE ADJACENT TO US.
UH, THE LARGE VACANT PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET IS, IS ZONED R FIVE AS WELL.
UM, AND, UH, SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE NOT UP ON THIS ARE ACTUALLY ZONED R FOUR.
UH, THEY JUST WOULD NOT COME UP ON THE MAP WHEN I, UH, ZOOMED OUT.
UM, SO WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS ZONING IS IN, IN KEEPING WITH THE, UH, UM, WITH THE AREA.
UH, WE HAVE PLANS TO, UH, DEVELOP APPROXIMATELY 52 HOME SITES.
UM, ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT HAD COME UP WITH, UH, GREEN SPRINGS VALLEY, UH, JUST THIS PAST FRIDAY, UM, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD CALLED THEM SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND THEY EXPRESSED NO OPPOSITION, UH, TO THE PROJECT AND WISHED US GOOD LUCK ON THE PROJECT.
BUT THIS PAST FRIDAY, THEY VOICED, UH, SOME CONCERNS, UH, ONE OF THOSE CONCERNS BEING TRAFFIC.
UM, AND, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE, UH, SECOND SLIDE, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S IN THE, UH, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
UH, THERE'S VERY GOOD ACCESS FROM THE SITE TO, UH, TO, UH, CLASSEN ROAD, UH, VIA NOLL CREEK DRIVE.
UH, YOU CAN ALSO, UH, GO BACK ON, UH, YOUNG ROAD, UH, TO THE WEST AND, UH, BEYOND BULVERDE ROAD.
AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO EXIT THE PROJECT TO THE, UH, TO THE SOUTH, UH, AND, UH, AND, AND GO OUT ON STALL STALL ROAD.
UH, SO IT HAS GREAT CIRCULATION.
UH, WE, WE BELIEVE THAT THE, UH, PRICE POINT OF THE HOMES WILL BE IN THE LOW 300,000, WHICH IS WELL WITHIN, UH, THE AREA, UH, HOUSING VALUE.
UM, SQUARE FOOTAGES WILL, WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 1600 TO 2,500 SQUARE FEET.
UM, WE ARE THE DEVELOPER AND BUILDER WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER, UH, APPLICANTS THAT, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, OPPOSITION THAT WAS TURNED IN WAS FROM A HOMEOWNER,
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UH, THAT WAS CONCERNED WITH FLOODING.AND I WANTED TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT WE, UH, ARE, UH, PLANNING TO, UH, TO DO A, UH, DETENTION POND ON SITE, UH, TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS, UH, THAT WE WOULD BE INCREASING, UH, THE WATER FLOW INTO THE FLOODPLAIN.
UH, NONE OF THE HOMES WILL BE LOCATED IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
UM, AND, UH, WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, UH, REQUEST THAT I COULD, UH, HAVE ANY TIME FOR REBUTTAL, UH, AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT Y'ALL HAVE.
UM, STEPH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM.
WE HAVE TWO LETTERS AND TWO VOICEMAILS.
THE FIRST LETTER IS FROM ERIC BOEM AS A FULLTIME RESIDENT AT 41 31 JUNG ROAD.
I WANTED TO SUBMIT A COMMENT TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING AT 39 48 JUNG.
FROM NP 10 TO R FIVE, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS IS THE RUNOFF THAT WOULD BE CREATED BY MORE DEVELOPMENT.
WHEN WE GET A LARGE RAIN, THE WATER POOLS UP LIKE LAKES ON JUNG ROAD AND BEGINS TO MOVE BACKWARDS TOWARDS MY HOUSE.
IT HAS NEVER COME PAST THE FRONT OF MY LAWN, BUT ONLY ONE MORE FOOT IN ELEVATION OF WATER WOULD PUT IT AT MY DOOR.
I WOULD HAVE TO THINK THAT INCREASE IN RUNOFF WOULD ACCOMP IT, ACCOMPLISH THAT, AND NEGATIVELY AFFECT MY PROPERTY.
OTHER CONCERNS ARE WHEN FEMA REAPS THE FLOOD MAP.
AGAIN, WOULD MY DWELLING BE PUT IN THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD ZONE? THIS WOULD HAVE TREMENDOUS NEGATIVE ECONOMICAL EFFECTS TO MY PROPERTY, AND I AM NOT RULING OUT LEGAL ACTION RESPECTFULLY.
ERIC BOEM, ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL AT COLE HIGH SCHOOL, AND THE NEXT ONE IS FROM WAYNE FLORES.
I WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE ARE IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT.
HOWEVER, I HAVE ALREADY DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE HEAD OF OUR DRAINAGE DEPARTMENT, CHRIS OTTO.
HE STATED THAT ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT A MANDATORY DETENTION AREA, HE IS AWARE OF EXISTING ISSUES WITH THE FLOODPLAIN THAT WE WOULD DRAIN INTO.
FOR THAT REASON, WE ARE GOING TO BE PROJECT PLANNING ON DOING MITIGATION THROUGH DETENTION.
WE WILL BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE CITY STORMWATER DIVISION TO MAKE SURE THERE IS NO ADVERSE IMPACT TO ANY OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND US.
WE ALSO, WE WILL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO STUDY THIS USING THE NEW ATLAS 14 DRAINAGE NUMBERS THAT HAVE BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY, BUT NOT FEMA.
PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT WITH QUESTIONS.
AND THAT'S WAYNE FLORES FROM K F W ENGINEERS, THE ENGINEER ON THIS PROJECT.
AND THEN THE LETTER FROM ERIC ZA.
KEITH, THANK YOU FOR REQUESTING THE INPUT OF GREEN VALLEY SUBDIVISION IN THIS MATTER.
AS MENTIONED, THE MAJORITY OF BOARD MEMBERS OPPOSE THIS VENTURE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR, FAMILIAR YOU ARE WITH THIS AREA, BUT THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN APARTMENTS BUILT NOT FAR FROM HERE.
I'M SURE IT'S AN ATTRACTIVE AREA FOR BUILDERS, BUT AT WHAT COST TO RESIDENT ERIC SPRING, GREENSPRING VALLEY PRESIDENT.
AND THEN THE VOICEMAILS ARE AS FOLLOW.
ADDRESS IS 4 0 0 5 NOEL GATE 7 8 2 4 7.
THE CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 2 2 0 7 0 0 1 0 2.
MY WIFE AND I, LINDA AND JIMMY BRITTON OF 4 0 0 5, NO GATE, ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF REZONING.
THE AREA OF DESCRIPTION DUE TO THE FACT THAT IT WOULD BE CHANGING IT FROM A MORE NATURAL AREA, WHICH SAN ANTONIO IS LACKING OF, TO AN AREA WHERE THERE WOULD BE A MORE PAVEMENT AND, AND LESS GREEN SPACE.
AND IT WOULD LOWER OUR PROPERTY VALUES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THERE'S LESS AND LESS GREEN SPACE AVAILABLE.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE HOUSES HERE IN THIS AREA.
AND THE SIZE OF THOSE LOTS WOULD DEFINITELY LOWER OUR PROPERTY VALUE.
2 1 0 3 1 6 7 7 2 0 IS MY NUMBER.
FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, MY WIFE, MS. SHEO, I LIVE AT 4,003 FLOWING PATH.
THE CASE NUMBER IS Z 2020 DASH 0 7 2.
AND MY FIRST OBJECTION TO CONCERN, UM, WITH THIS NEW ZONING
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ALLOWANCE WOULD BE THAT I HAVE SO MUCH PEACE HERE AND IT'S SO GREEN AND NICE.WE'VE GOT A LITTLE PIECE OF HEAVEN AROUND HERE, AND JUST KNOW THAT WILL BE SPOILED.
UM, WITH THE ADDITION, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT WE'LL HAVE TWO STORY HOMES LOOKING DOWN ON US IN OUR BACKYARD, AND THUS SPOILING THE COVETED PRIVACY THAT WE'VE SEARCHED TO HAVE IN THIS HOME IN THE FIRST PLACE.
UM, WILL THERE BE ONLY ONE ACCESS POINT, UM, ON THE YOUNG SIDE BEFORE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT? ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, THAT DECREASING THE LOT SIZES BY HALF WITH FURTHER CLASH WITH OUR ZONED AREA, UM, BY ADDING 51 COOKIE CUTTER HOMES.
REALLY CONCERNED THAT THE TREES, IF THIS GOES THROUGH ON THE SECOND ARM OF YUNG, UM, AS YOU TURN RIGHT AT THE LIGHT, THAT THOSE WOULD BE CUT DOWN AND SPOILING THE ENVIRONMENT EVEN FURTHER.
AND I GUESS, UH, MOSTLY, OH, WELL, NO, I'M CONCERNED THAT THE BUFFER IS AT LEAST 200 FEET ON YING AND THE CANYON PLACE SIDE, BUT EVERY YEAR MY PROPERTY TAXES KEEP RISING AND I'M JUST, I'M CONCERNED THAT I WILL BE TAXED OUT OF MY HOME EVENTUALLY, AND ESPECIALLY AFTER THESE NEW HOME ARE BUILT.
UM, MR. MORENO, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? THE RESPONSE? OKAY.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, SIR.
UH, APPRECIATE THE TIME TO RESPOND.
UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROJECT IS, UM, THE AREA IS VERY DESIRABLE, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, I'M NOT REAL SURE WHERE GREEN VALLEY, UM, HAD THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME APARTMENTS GOING ON HERE.
I MEAN, I SHARED WITH THEM THE, UH, OUR PLANS AND THE SITE PLAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE HOUSING AND CREEK, UH, AND IN THE COMMUNITY ON FLOWERING PATH ARE IN THE LOW, UH, TO MID TWO FIFTIES.
UH, THIS PROJECT, UH, THE HOUSES WILL BE IN THE, THE, UH, LOWER TO MID THREE HUNDREDS.
UH, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S ALWAYS OBVIOUSLY CONCERNED WITH, YOU KNOW, WHEN A NEW PROJECT COMES IN, WHAT WILL IT WILL DO TO THEIR PROPERTY VALUES.
BUT, UM, BUT IN MY OPINION, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL DECREASE ANYONE'S PROPERTY VALUES.
UM, AND, UH, IT IT'S GONNA BE A VERY NICE COMMUNITY.
UM, SO WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, I'VE, I'VE, IN THE LAST, I GUESS, WEEK OR SO, UM, BEEN LOOKING INTO THIS ONE QUITE A BIT.
I, I'VE TALKED WITH MR. MORENO AND, AND, UM, I MEAN, I GUESS I'LL TELL YOU MY, MY OPINION IS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UM, AND I THINK THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR, OR THIS DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, MR. MORENO IS LOOKING TO DO HERE WOULD, WOULD FIT IN NICELY, UH, WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD.
I UNDER ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF, UH, NEIGHBORS WHEN A NEW DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS COMES IN BECAUSE THEY LIKE LOOKING AT THE, AT THE PRETTY GREEN SPACE.
AND I, AND, AND I GET THAT, BUT, UH, THE PROPERTY IS OWNED AND I THINK MR. MORENO HAS A RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT.
BUT, UH, WITH THAT SAID, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THE GREEN SPRING VALLEY WAS OUTSIDE THE 200.
DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR OUTSIDE THAT 200 GREEN SPRING VALLEY WAS OR IS? HOLD ON.
WE'RE LOOKING, WE'LL PULL IT UP ON THE MAP.
WHILE WE'RE LOOKING, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
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WHILE YOU'RE, I GUESS I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE, THE APPLICANT.UM, SO THE APPLICANT, WHAT, WHAT ARE THE LOT SIZES ON THESE TYPE OF HOUSES? THE, UH, THE ZONING R FIBER REQUIRES, UH, 5,000 SQUARE FEET LOTS.
UH, I BELIEVE THE MINIMUM FRONTAGE, UH, MAYBE EVEN THE MAXIMUM FRONTAGE, UH, IS 45 FEET.
UH, SO THESE LOTS WILL BE APPROXIMATELY 45 FEET BY ONE 20.
AND THESE ARE PROBABLY WHAT, UH, TWO TWO BAY GARAGE? YES.
IT'S NOT GATED RIGHT IN THAT P O D P U D? NO.
UH, THERE'S, THERE'S NO PLANS TO GET TO THE COMMUNITY.
THAT, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
THIS APPEARS TO BE THAT GREEN SPRING VALLEY IS JUST ACROSS BULL VERDE ROAD, UH, RIGHT AT JUNG.
SO, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, GREEN SPRINGS VALLEY IS NOT A REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH THE CITY.
UM, BUT THEY, UH, MIGHT BE JUST BE REGISTERED WITH THE STATE.
SO, UH, CITY REGISTRATION ALLOWS US TO NOTIFY THEM OF CASES WHEN THEY'RE WITHIN 200 FEET, BUT THEY'RE NOT REGISTERED WITH THE CITY.
OH, BUT THEY ARE WITHIN 200 FEET? NO, NO.
THEY'RE ACROSS THE WAY IT SEEMS, BUT NOT WITHIN 200 FEET.
WHY DO I SEE IT ON THIS MAP? I SEE.
BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS THE MAP THAT SHOWS REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WITH THE CITY.
THEY ARE NOT REGISTERED WITH THE CITY.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ON THERE.
I'M JUST, I WAS IMPRESSED THAT THEY HAD HEARD ABOUT IT AND, AND REPLIED.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THE OUTSIDE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT IN THE 200 FOOT, BUT THEY WILL BE IMPACTED SOMEHOW, AND THEY MADE THAT KNOWN.
SO I, I THINK THAT WAS SMARTER THAN TO, TO REPLY, BUT I'LL, I'LL FIND IT.
I GOT A, I GOT A MAP MAKER AS A HUSBAND, SO I'LL HAVE HIM MEASURE IT.
ONE OF THE LETTERS SAID THAT THE LOCK SIZE WAS GONNA BE HALF OF WHAT THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ARE.
THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE THAT THE, UH, APPLICANT RESPOND TO THAT.
YES, THAT IS, UH, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
UM, THAT BOTH THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET, NOEL, UH, NOEL CREEK, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE APPLICANT THAT BROUGHT UP THE OTHER COMMUNITY.
UH, SHE, THEY LIVE OFF OF A, A ROW CALLED FLOWING PATH.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE AN ASSOCIATION, UH, BUT BOTH OF THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE ZONED R SIX, WHICH REQUIRES 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
AND THEIR AVERAGE FRONTAGE IS APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET WIDE.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET LESS IN LOT SIZE, UH, THAN THOSE COMMUNITIES.
UM, AND WE WERE, WE WERE ACTUALLY ASKED, UH, BY, UM, THE, UH, THE, UM, THE COUNCILMAN TO CONTACT GREEN VALLEY SPRINGS, WHICH WE WENT OUT OF OUR WAY TO DO.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABOUT 2,500 FEET FROM THE PROJECT.
UM, AND WE ALSO, UH, CONTACTED BRIARCREST AND NOEL CREEK, UM, H O A, UM, EXCUSE ME.
AND ALL OF THOSE, UH, THE OTHER TWO COMMUNITIES DID NOT HAVE ANY OPPOSITION.
WE ANSWERED A LOT OF QUESTIONS FROM THEM.
UM, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER.
UH, JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION, WE WENT AHEAD AND, UM, PUT THE GOOGLE MAP OF WHERE THE GREEN SPRING VALLEY, H O A IS, UM, ACROSS THE STREET ON BUL VERDE.
SO, UH, THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE, UH, WHERE IT IS IN REFERENCE TO JOHN ROAD.
AND THEN I'LL HAVE MERCEDES HOVER OVER THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THEN GO BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
IS THAT QUESTION ANSWER YOU? OKAY.
UM, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT COMMISSIONER JONES WAS REFERENCING, I, I THINK THE COMMENT IN THE
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LETTER WAS THAT BY, BY HAVING THE ZONING CHANGE, THESE LOTS IN QUESTION WOULD BE HALF AS BIG AS THEY WERE BEFORE THE ZONING CHANGE, NOT THAT THEY WOULD BE HALF AS BIG AS THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET.WAS THAT A QUESTION FOR US? YES.
OH, UM, I WASN'T REALLY ASKING A QUESTION.
I WAS JUST SAYING THAT'S WHAT THE PERSON SAID IN THEIR LETTER WAS THAT THIS ZONING CHANGE WOULD, WOULD CUT THE LOTS IN HALF.
NOT THAT THEY WOULD BE HALF AS BIG AS THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET.
I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT.
I, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
SO, UM, SO THIS INDEED IS ZONED FOUR HOUSES, AND IT WOULD NOT, IT, THERE'S NOTHING THAT REQUIRES FOR IT TO STAY, UM, GREEN SPACE, UH, YES.
IT, UH, THERE'S, IT'S ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AT A LOT SIZE OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, IT'S NOT, UNLESS IT WERE PRIVATELY OWNED BY ONE OF THOSE NEIGHBORS, IT, IT CAN BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.
JUST, JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION.
IF THERE, OKAY, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ALSO, JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION FOR EVERYBODY WANTING TO KNOW ABOUT GREEN SPRINGS VALLEY.
I DO KNOW THE AREA, AND ACTUALLY THAT PARTICULAR SUBDIVISION DOES INTERSECT WITH YOUNG ROAD AT QUIET MEADOW, AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THEY FELT THE NEED TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THIS CASE.
THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE CLARIFICATIONS, EVERYBODY.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS OR CLARIFICATIONS, UH, WE'LL, UH, TURN IT BACK TO YOU.
UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, AND THANK YOU TO, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES AND, AND THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS FOR, UH, FOR THOSE POINTS OF CLARIFICATION.
I, I THINK THAT WAS, THAT WAS HELPFUL.
UM, I THINK CITY STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE, UM, IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.
AND, UH, SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
ANY COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UH, YOU KNOW, THE REASON I ASK ABOUT GREEN SPRING IS THAT'S AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, UM, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR LOT SIZE ARE.
I THINK SOME OF 'EM WERE BIGGER.
IT'S KIND OF SAD TO ME TO SEE THE NP 10 GO AWAY.
WE DON'T SEEM TO GET ENOUGH OF THOSE, UM, UH, DEVELOPED ANYMORE.
UM, IT'S A LARGER LOT SIZE AND TOO BAD WE DON'T GET THAT.
BUT, UM, NOT PARTICULARLY FOND OF THE DESIGN OF THE SUB OF THE LITTLE SUBDIVISION THERE.
AND THEY GET SMALL LIKE THAT, AND THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT, UM, YOU, YOU PASS THROUGH, YOU GO IN, COME OUT THE SAME WAY.
UM, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE DEVELOPER TO ENCOURAGE A, UM, ASSOCIATION OF SOME TYPE AMONGST THEM, UH, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT TOO TRANSIENT IN A SENSE, WHEN THEY'RE THAT TINY, LIKE THAT.
BUT I'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE FOR APPROVAL.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR, DID YOU HAVE SOME COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO.
YEAH, NO, I, I I, I, I WAS, I WAS JUST GONNA SORT OF SECOND WHAT COMMISSIONER GIBBONS SAID AND SAID THAT ANY, ANY TIME THERE'S CHANGE LIKE THIS.
UM, I, I ALSO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, SYMPATHIZE, UM, WITH THE NEIGHBORS, BUT I, UM, I DO THINK THAT THE DEVELOPERS WITHIN THIS RIGHTS TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT, UM, FOR THESE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND I HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPER WILL WORK WITH THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO IT IN A FASHION, UM, THAT THAT'LL BENEFIT EVERYBODY.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL MADE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
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ROMERO? YES.UM, CHAIR, BEFORE WE GO TO THE
[6. ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700066 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 IDZ AHOD" Commercial Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 12 and Lot 13, Block 79, NCB 3347, located at 103 Bailey Avenue and 107 Bailey Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) (Part 2 of 2)]
MINUTES, WE HAD, UM, A RESIDENT THAT HAD COME TO OUR BUILDING TO TRY TO ATTEND THE MEETING, PROVIDE COMMENTS ON AN ITEM, WHICH IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX.UH, THAT WAS CONSIDERED ON CONSENT.
UM, AND WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT UNTIL AFTER, UH, THE CONSENT WAS ALREADY VOTED ON.
UH, BUT HE STILL WANTED TO BE CALLED AND, UH, PROVIDE HIS COMMENTS.
AND WE, UH, AGAIN, WE COORDINATED WITH, WITH THE CHAIR JUST TO BE BE SURE THAT IT IS OKAY TO HAVE HIM, UH, SPEAK.
AND SO WE'RE PATCHING HIM IN NOW AND, UH, WE'LL SEE IF HE'S ON THE LINE YET, UH, SO HE CAN MAKE HIS TWO MINUTE COMMENTS, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR? YES, PLEASE.
HE'S STILL PATCHING HIM THROUGH AND HE IS EXPECTING OUR CALL.
MR. MEINE, ARE YOU ON THE CALL? OH, THAT, YES.
WE'RE STILL TRANSFERRING HIM IN.
MR. MEINE, ARE YOU ON THE CALL? YES, I AM.
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
I AM, UH, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE HIGHLAND PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THAT ASSOCIATION.
I, UM, UH, WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY, UH, OPPOSITION TO THE I D Z ZONING.
UM, WE, WE WERE NOT NOTIFIED BY MAIL, UH, SO I APOLOGIZE FOR MY LATE ENTRY INTO THIS PROCESS, BUT, UH, WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR WRITTEN NOTIFICATION FROM THE CITY.
UH, THE SIGN ON THE, UH, PROPERTY IS IMPROPERLY MARKED.
IT SAYS IT'S FROM COMMERCIAL TO COMMERCIAL.
IT DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT I D Z.
SO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS I'VE SPOKEN WITH ARE VERY CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT THEY GENERALLY DON'T WANT MOBILE, UH, BUILDINGS AND NEITHER DO WE.
WE DON'T WANT ANY MOBILE BUILDINGS OR ANY VARIANCE FROM THE, UH, REQUIRED, UM, UH, CODE ON, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN WHAT THE, UH, COMMERCIAL PROPERTY CALLS FOR.
UH, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS IS, UM, PARKING.
UH, WE DEFINITELY OVER AND OVER, WE FOUGHT AGAINST ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING ON ONSITE PARKING, SO IT HAS TO COMPLY.
THERE'S A PARK, THERE'S A STOP SIGN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH.
PARKING ON THE STREET IS GOING TO CREATE A TRAFFIC HAZARD AND AN INCONVENIENCE AND AN EYESORE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IT'S A, A RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE TO MAINTAIN IT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
IF THE CHURCH GOES IN THERE, THEY, THEY NEED TO COME IN WITH PERMANENT BUILDINGS, SUFFICIENT PARKING, ONSITE PARKING.
UM, YEAH, SO, UM, AS YOU'RE AWARE, IT DID, UM, IT IS MOVING FORWARD TO CITY COUNCIL.
UM, SO IF YOU'LL BE SURE TO, UM, REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL A FOR, UH, DISTRICT THREE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, I APOLOGIZE FOR YOU DRIVING ALL THE WAY, UM, TO PARTICIPATE, BUT I'M CERTAINLY ENCOURAGED BY YOUR CONTINUED PARTICIPATION AND BEING A VOICE FOR YOUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
HAVE Y'ALL ALREADY VOTED ON THIS? YES, SIR.
THAT, THAT WAS, UM, IT WAS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA EAR EARLIER, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
SO NOW YOU, SO CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS
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ARE, ARE THE NON-OP OPPOSED? THAT'S CORRECT.SO NOW YOU'LL HAVE TO, UM, UM, GET IN TOUCH WITH, UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED, UH, UH, SOME OPPOSITION CARDS.
YOU KNOW, THE MAILINGS THAT YOU GAVE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
IT'S A VIOLATION OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND, UH, WE, THE NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS, UH, BEING DENIED OUR RIGHT TO, UH, AN OPEN FORUM.
UH, THE ONLY WAY THAT I CAN PARTICIPATE WITH THAT MEETING IS, UH, VERBALLY.
AND, UM, I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DO SO.
IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S A TOTAL STEAL JUSTICE.
BUT, UM, MS. FLORES OR MS. HERNANDEZ, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THE OPEN MEETINGS OR, UH, UH, MS. SUSAN, UM, ADDRESS THE OPEN MEETING, UH, PORTION OF THAT, BUT IT'S NOT TOO LATE.
IT, IT HASN'T GONE BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, SO THERE'S STILL TIME, SIR.
WELL, I'M GONNA LET THE MEETING RESPOND TO THE OPEN MEETINGS, PLEASE.
UM, SO LET ME JUST KIND OF EXPLAIN.
UH, DUE TO, UH, C OVID 19, THE GOVERNOR HAS, UH, ALLOWED US TO HOLD VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND ANYONE CAN STILL PARTICIPATE.
THEY CAN WATCH THE MEETINGS ONLINE, THEY CAN LISTEN TO THE MEETINGS BY AUDIO ONLY, AND WE HAVE EXPANDED OUR, UH, WAY OF PARTICIPATION FOR ANY RESIDENTS.
UH, IT CAN BE DONE THROUGH A PHONE CALL LIKE YOU'RE DOING TODAY.
UM, IT CAN BE DONE THROUGH A VOICEMAIL, WHICH ARE PLAYED DURING THE MEETINGS.
IT CAN BE DONE THROUGH A WRITTEN LETTER THAT CAN BE DROPPED OFF AS LATE AS 10:00 AM ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING, UM, OR AN EMAILED COMMENT.
ADDITIONALLY, WE NOT, NOT ONLY DO WE MAIL TO THE REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE THE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR HIGHLAND PARK IS GREGORY RIP.
UH, WE ALSO EMAIL, UH, THE, UH, NOTICE AS WELL, UH, TO THE CONTACT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
SO WE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS IN WHICH WE MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE REACHING OUT TO THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT PUBLIC INPUT.
UH, SO WE'LL BE GLAD TO, UH, TALK WITH YOU AFTERWARDS, UH, OR, UH, LATER THIS WEEK.
AND, UH, BUT AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HADN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING IN OPPOSITION ON THIS CASE.
BUT AGAIN, LIKE THE CHAIR SAID, WE, UH, THIS STILL NEEDS TO GO TO COUNSEL, WHICH WON'T BE UNTIL AUGUST.
SO THERE IS SOME TIME FOR, UH, YOUR CONCERN TO BE ADDRESSED BY THE APPLICANT.
WELL, MY CONCERN IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE WERE DENIED ACCESS TO THE OPEN MEETING AND WE WERE DENIED, UM, UH, CONTACT THROUGH OUR PO BOX, WHICH IT'S WORKED IN THE PAST, BUT IT'S, IT WASN'T ACCESSED ON, IT WASN'T RECEIVED THROUGH OUR PO BOX ON THIS ISSUE.
SO, UH, SO, UH, WHO SAID, YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT, THAT WE CAN, UH, STILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE.
IT DOESN'T CHANGE THIS MEETING.
UH, THE OTHER MEETING IS GONNA BE IN PERSON.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY HAS A DOUBLE STANDARD WHERE SOME MEETINGS ARE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC AND SOME ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
MR. MR. MANDI, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT I'M GONNA HAVE TO, UM, WHO, UH, MS. CAT, WHO IS THE CASE MANAGER.
UM, BOTH HER, UH, HER AS WELL AS MYSELF CAN REACH OUT TO MR. MEDELLIN, UH, TOMORROW.
AND WE'LL, UH, TALK WITH HIM ABOUT HIS CONCERNS ON THE CASE.
AND THEN, UH, AND THEN ALSO IF YOU, I'M SURE MR. VILLA MIGHT BE ADDRESS AS WELL.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT I, I WOULD BELIEVE HE WOULD BE.
SO, UM, MS. MEINE, I AM SO, UH, SORRY, UM, FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE, BUT, UM, I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE VOTE TODAY, BUT I BELIEVE THAT YOU STILL HA IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A DONE DEAL YET.
WE THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONTINUED, UM, VOICE, UH, MADAM CHAIR APPOINTED INFORMATION.
SO, UM, WE, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE USED TO HAVE THE BUILDING OPEN AS A RESULT OF COVID 19.
THE, UH, A LOT OF THE CITY BUILDINGS ARE CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC.
WE ARE STILL SERVICING CUSTOMERS OUTSIDE,
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BUT, UH, THE ZONING COMMISSION MEETINGS, PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, AND BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETINGS HAVE ALL BEEN HELD VIRTUALLY.AND, UH, AGAIN, WE EXPANDED THE PUBLIC, UH, INPUT, UH, COMPONENT IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE INPUT.
UH, SO THEY ARE NOT CLOSED, PER SE, TO THE PUBLIC.
IT IS THE BUILDING THAT IS CLOSED AS A RESULT OF COVID 19, BUT THE MEETINGS ARE STILL OPEN.
I REALIZE THAT I I ATTEND THE MEETINGS.
DID, DID HE COME DOWN TO THE BUILDING TO SIGN IN AT ONE O'CLOCK AND THEN NO ONE WAS AWARE OF THAT.
HOW DID, HOW DID YOU BECOME AWARE THAT HE CAME DOWN? HE CALLED, SO, UH, HE ACTUALLY REACHED, SO HE CAME DOWN TO THE BUILDING, WE'RE NOT LETTING ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC IN, AND SO HE WAS TURNED AWAY.
HE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNCIL AIDE.
AND THEY REACHED OUT TO ME, LETTING THEM, LETTING THEM KNOW.
AND SO WE GOT HIS NAME AND PHONE NUMBER, WORKED WITH THE CHAIR TO WHAT POINT IN THIS MEETING TO ALLOW TO PROVIDE THAT PUBLIC INPUT.
BUT BY THE TIME WE WERE AWARE OF IT, THE CONSENT ITEM HAD ALREADY BEEN VOTED ON.
CAN THE CONSENT ITEM BE VOTED ON TO BE REMOVED AND BROUGHT BACK TO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT SINCE HE SHOWED UP? I MEAN, THAT IS UP TO THE CHAIR.
WILL THE CHAIR ENTERTAIN THAT MOTION? I, I NEVER, THAT'S A NEW ONE FOR ME.
I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO LEARNING NEW THINGS, SO, YEAH.
SO, UM, SO IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN, UM, I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT BEFORE, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE ATTORNEY OR WHOEVER THE VOTES.
I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING'S BEEN VOTED ON IN A MEETING, YOU CAN, UH, ANY ITEM AT ALL, YOU CAN NOW, UH, PULL IT BACK DOWN AND, UM, IT WOULD REQUIRE, IT WOULD REQUIRE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA A SECOND AND A VOTE ON THAT AGENDA.
THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A SUBSEQUENT MOTION OR MOTION ON THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, HOW YOU WANNA HANDLE THE ENTIRETY.
IF YOU WANNA PULL CASES OUT, YOU WANNA REHEAR THE ENTIRE CONSENT, BUT A MOTION AND A SECOND AND A VOTE WOULD BE REQUIRED ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
I, I JUST BELIEVE, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE OUR CITY COUNCIL OFFICE IS VERY RESPONSIVE.
I DON'T THINK THEY SHUT ANYBODY OUT AND TRY TO WORK HARD, SO I DON'T THINK IT'S A CLOSED DEAL YET.
IF THERE'S STILL WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AS OPPOSED TO, UM, UNLESS Y'ALL WANT TO, I MEAN, I, I'M OPEN WHATEVER THE COMMISSIONERS WANNA DO.
YOU WANNA RECONSIDER THE CONSENT, UM, CONSENT AGENDA? UM, YES.
SO, UH, CHAIR, JUST A REMINDER THAT THIS CASE WON'T GO TO COUNSEL UNTIL AUGUST 6TH.
THAT'S, SO WE'RE TALKING AT LEAST A MONTH AND A HALF AWAY.
SO THERE IS A LOT OF TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THIS, THAT THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY THOUGHT.
THAT'S, THAT'S HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT, BUT OKAY.
SO, UM, HAD ANY INDIVIDUAL REACHED OUT TO YOU, COMMISSIONER MCGEE? NO.
THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING ABOUT IT AFTER, AFTER THE CONSENT AGENDA HAD, UM, WENT THROUGH.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I WASN'T WATCHING MY TEXT MESSAGES.
UH, YEAH, I, UM, WELL, I'M NOT, UH, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION.
IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT, BUT I GUESS MY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THIS INDIVIDUAL DOES GET HEARD AND HIS COMMUNITY GETS HEARD BY YOURSELF.
UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, IT WOULD, WOULD BE MY CONCERN.
HE OBVIOUSLY THOUGHT HE WAS DOING THE RIGHT METHOD.
HOW MANY OF YOU DRIVE UP TO A RESTAURANT AND GO, CAN I GO IN? OR SHOULD OR IS IT JUST, IS CURBSIDE? I MEAN, IT'S CONFUSING.
SO, UM, IT'S KIND OF LATE IN THE DAY TO MAKE THE MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE SHEBANG OF THE AGENDA.
I GUESS I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HE GETS, HE GETS HEARD AND, AND THAT COMMUNITY GETS HEARD.
LOOKING AT THE SIDE ITSELF, I, I WOULD'VE TOLD THAT AND HAD A DISCUSSION ON IT WHEN WE'RE GOING COMMERCIAL ON THE, ON THE CORNER OF A RESIDENTIAL.
I THINK, UH, THERE IS A MISUNDERSTANDING BY THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL THAT, UH, IT IS NOT AN OPEN MEETING.
UH, TRULY IT IS THE OPEN MEETING UNDER THE, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S, UM, GUIDELINES RIGHT NOW BECAUSE, BUT IT'S IN A HELD, IN A VIRTUAL OPEN MEETING, SO SOMEBODY DOWN THE
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ROAD NEEDS TO EXPLAIN TO HIM.SO TO CLARIFY THAT MISUNDERSTANDING.
AND, UM, I, AND I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE, UM, THAT THEIR VOICES WILL BE HEARD.
I MEAN, I JUST HAVE NO, YOU KNOW, SOME PLACES YOU HAVE TREPIDATION ON WHETHER OR NOT, UM, IT WILL BE HEARD ON WHETHER OR NOT A CERTAIN TYPE OF STAFF IS RESPONSIVE OR DISMISSIVE.
I BELIEVE THAT OUR, THAT FOR MY DISTRICT, I FEEL VERY BLESSED THAT THEY'RE VERY RESPONSIVE AND WORK VERY HARD.
I GO MEETINGS LONG NIGHTS, WHATEVER IT TAKES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
BUT I'M SO SORRY THAT IT DIDN'T HAPPEN BEFORE.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, YOU ALLOWED HIM TO SPEAK EVEN THOUGH WE'VE ALREADY CLOSED THE CONSENT.
AND GENERALLY WHEN IT GOES OPPOSITION, WE PULL THOSE THINGS OFF SO THAT IT HAS A, A FULL REVIEW.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'S GONNA PLAY OUT OVER, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT THREE LAND THAT HE SHOWS UP, HE WAS IN OPPOSITION AND WE DIDN'T PULL IT TO HAVE A, A NEW CONSIDERATION.
WELL, I DON'T, WE DIDN'T KNOW IN ENOUGH TIME TO PULL IT THAT, THAT IT WAS TIME.
THIS ACTUALLY, ALTHOUGH NEW IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S THE FIRST TIME IT'S OCCURRED DURING ONE OF THESE VIRTUAL MEETINGS IS SOMETHING THAT DOES OCCUR FAIRLY ROUTINELY IN, I THINK CERTAINLY WOULD HAPPEN ROUTINELY IN MY H D R C EXPERIENCE.
AND I BELIEVE IT'S HAPPENED IN THE ZONING EXPERIENCE AS WELL.
PEOPLE EITHER MISUNDERSTOOD OR GOT THE TIME WRONG OR SHOWED UP LATE.
IT, IT I THINK WOULD BE UNCOMMON FOR US TO UNDO A CONSENT AGENDA TO VOTE THAT THROUGH NO FAULT OF THE STAFF'S, NO FAULT OF THE COMMISSION, THE CHAIR OR ANYONE ELSE, HONEST MISUNDERSTANDING, UH, TO UNDO THAT WORK AT THIS TIME.
HOWEVER, IF A COMMISSIONER DISAGREES WITH THAT, I THINK, UH, THE CHAIR HAS NOTED THAT SHE WOULD ALLOW FOR A MOTION.
THAT MOTION GETS A SECOND AND THE VOTE FOR RECONSIDERATION OCCURS.
THAT'S ONE THING, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT TALKING ABOUT IT ANY FURTHER WOULD BE PRODUCTIVE.
ALRIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, I'M TRYING TO GET SOME ASSURANCE HERE BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER THE WHOLE AGENDA, WHICH ISN'T WHAT I WANNA DO, BUT HE DID SHOW UP, HE WAS HANDICAPPED, AND WE DID LISTEN TO THE OPPOSITION.
WE SHOULD REALLY PULL IT OFF OF THE AGENDA AND HAVE LET IT HAVE ITS DUE COURSE.
YOU'RE SAYING YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT HAVING DUE COURSE BETWEEN NOW AND, AND COUNSEL, I'M ASKING YOU IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND YOU FEEL THAT'S NOT GONNA CAUSE WAYS AND I'LL GO WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T, I I MEAN, WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.
THE PUBLIC ISN'T HERE TO SERVE ME.
IF HE SHOWS UP AND HE WOULD LIKE HIS DUE COURSE OF, AND, AND HAVE OTHERS COME AND SPEAK, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD PULL FROM THE AGENDA AND PUT IT BACK ON BECAUSE IT'S, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON THAT NEEDS TO, TO HAVE THEIR SAY MADAM CHAIR.
I THINK YOU'RE WELL AWARE THAT THIS GENTLEMAN, IT IS UNFORTUNATE NO ONE'S FAULT, NOT HIS, NOT STAFF, NO ONE'S FAULT.
HOWEVER, YOU ALLOWED HIM TO SPEAK AND VOICE HIS CONCERNS AS A COURTESY.
THERE WAS NO REQUIREMENT THAT HE BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK WHEN HE MISSED THE DEADLINE FOR SIGNING IN OR TO CALL IN.
HE IS AWARE OF HOW TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL.
UH, STAFF WILL CONTACT HIM TOMORROW TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS COMPLETELY, BUT HE HAS ALREADY WAS IN CONTACT WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE TODAY.
SO HE IS WELL AWARE OF HOW TO MAKE HIS VOICE KNOWN.
SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, I, WAS THAT A, WAS THAT A LEGAL OPINION OR A PERSONAL OPINION FROM THE, FROM THE LAWYER? I JUST WANNA, IT'S A FACTUAL, IT'S A FACTUAL STATEMENT, BUT WE ALL CAN SEE THAT.
I, I MEAN, I WOULD EXPECT THE LEGAL STAFF TO GIVE ME A LEGAL, BUT IF IT'S PERSONAL, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S WHERE WE OPEN UP THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION.
BUT I, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M FINE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYONE'S TIRED AND WANTS TO GO HOME AND, AND YOU'LL DEAL WITH THIS IN ANOTHER WAY.
BUT YEAH, SO, UM, I, I'M ALL ABOUT
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PUBLIC SERVICE AND I TRY TO BE VERY FAIR.AS I SAID, I GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, SO I DON'T THINK THAT I AM, UH, NEGATING SOMEBODY'S VOICE, UH, BEING HEARD.
AND I HAVE A HUNDRED, I AM VERY, VERY CONFIDENT THAT, UM, OUR, UM, CITY COUNCIL, UH, STAFF, UM, WILL, UM, WORK WITH HIM BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETWEEN NOW AND AUGUST.
I HA I DON'T HAVE ANY TREPIDATION OR LACK OF CONFIDENCE THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN.
SO, UM, AND, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO.
WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH EVERYBODY.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE COME TO THE END OF OUR ITEMS AND, UM,
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WE ARE NOW MOVING ON TO THE MINUTES PORTION OF OUR MEETING.SO ARE THERE ANY, UM, CORRECTIONS, REVISIONS, UH, TO THE MINUTES BY ANY COMMISSIONERS? UM, IF THERE ARE NONE, MAY I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO, THERE'S NOT, MA'AM.
ANYTHING ON THE UPCOMING HORIZON WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT? UH, AS FAR AS ANY, UH, BRIEFINGS, WE'RE ALL GOOD.
RIGHT? UM, NO, WE'RE JUST GOING TO STILL CONTINUE WITH OUR VIRTUAL MEETINGS, UM, AT LEAST THROUGH JULY, AND WE'LL GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ABOUT AUGUST.
WELL, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT IS CURRENTLY 4 24.
I CERTAINLY THANK EVERYBODY FOR THEIR VOLUNTEERISM AND THEIR SERVICE AND, UM, I WISH YOU, UM, MANY BLESSINGS AND THE WONDERFUL REST OF YOUR WEEK.