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I LIKE TO CALL JULIO FERNANDEZ FISH.
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I'M SORRY.THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
UM, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE IS OKAY.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SUGGEST WE JUST DO GOOGLE EXACTLY BECAUSE I'M, I'M SCROLLING ON MY SIDE AND IT'S VERY HAVE OKAY.
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JUST, JUST FOR HELLO.HELLO, THIS IS CHAIRMAN FETZER COMMISSION, FERNANDEZ VADO AND PETITION COMMISSION.
I, THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
I HAVE DIFFICULTY GOING THAT FAR WITH THIS WITHOUT.
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FERNANDEZ FISH.CARPENTER, YOU'VE BEEN JOINED BY UH, COMMISSIONER BOWMAN.
EDWARD? EDWARD, ARE YOU THERE?
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YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.H C R C I IS MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS LITIGATES.
UNLESS THERE'S FURTHER DISCUSSION ON STAFF, WE'RE GONNA ZOOM IN ON THOSE SO THAT
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I RECOMMEND.COMMISSIONER BOWMAN, YOU HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND FISH.
SORRY, I SAID TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
WHAT WAS THE MOTION? UN 1, 4, 5, AND SEVEN.
THIS IS CHAIRMAN FETZER BEFORE, FORGET THAT WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD AND READ THE PREVIOUS CASE AS WELL AS THIS ONE FROM THE SAME COMMENTS CONSTRUCTION INDICATED BY THIS CONSTRUCTION 20 IN HIGHWAY PORT.
IS THE APPLICANT THERE? YES, I'M HERE.
WELL ACTUALLY I'M THE ARCHITECT FOR THE APPLICANT, BU ARCHITECT.
I CAN'T HEAR YOU JOHN, CAN YOU HEAR US JOHN? YES I CAN.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST TAKING A MOMENT TO LOOK AT WHILE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE LOOKING AT THE CHANGES THAT HE DID,
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REC, COMMISSIONERS, COMM WANTING US TO AND OF THE FRONT FOR THERE'LL BE, UM, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GOING GO WHAT WE PROPOSING TO DO.THAT'S BASICALLY MR. CARPENTER, UM, UH, TELL US WHAT THE MATERIALITY IS OF THE FRENCH DOORS.
ARE THEY WOOD? I COULDN'T WHAT YOU SAID ST THERE APPEARS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THERE.
WELL, UM, THE FRENCH, THERE'S SEVEN FOOT TALL MB IT'S GOT ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF TO EIGHT INCH BASE PLATE.
IF YOU LOOK, ACTUALLY NEED TO EXPLAIN, UH, YES.
UH, MRS. SPIEGEL, I WAS WONDERING THE DETAILS FROM, UH, THE WATER WATERCOURSE OF THE, OF THE BRICK STUCCO.
WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING THERE? ARE YOU SILVER? WE'RE ZOOM IN ON THAT DETAIL NOW AND THE BANDING THAT YOU'RE INTRODUCING, A WOOD BANDING MADE.
CAN YOU, IF YOU, UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT'S ANGLED IT'S ANGLE THERE TO THE HOUSE.
IT'S A ONE BY EIGHT IS WHAT IT IS.
THEN GOES BACK INTO THE STUCCO.
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THIS IS CHAIRMAN FETZER.THANK YOU FOR PROPOS PROPOSING THIS ALTERNATE PROPOSAL.
UM, ARE THE FRENCH DOORS, ARE THEY PAINTING WOOD, PAINTED WOOD IN THE TWO SIDE DOORS THAT HAVE ALREADY THEY'RE PAINTED.
UM, ONE CONCERN THAT I EXPRESSED LAST TIME, UH, THESE SINGLE SIDE DOORS, THAT'S A MARKED CHANGE FROM THE CAM ARCHED WIDER OPENINGS, WHICH IS SHOWN HERE IN THE HISTORIC PHOTO.
I'M NOT SURE I CAN SUPPORT THOSE TWO SIDE DOORS.
TRANSITION BETWEEN STUCCO ON THE TWO SIDES.
DOES THAT DETAIL LOOK LIKE BETWEEN THE STUCCO, THE VERTICAL JOINT, THE VERTICAL TRANSITION TRANSITION VERTICAL? BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S SOME CUT BRICK MAKE A GOOD END CONDITION FOR THAT BRICK.
SO THEY'RE PLANNING TO CHAIRMAN TZ OR ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER VELASQUEZ, UM, QUE RESPONDS TO THE LAST MEETING VERY WELL.
UM, THERE'S JUST, UH, MR ONE, ONE INCONSISTENCY THAT I THINK TAKES AWAY, I'M NOT TRYING TO MIMIC THE HOUSE AND I KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW THE SWEAR INTERSECTION OF THE FACE BOARDS.
UM, THEY'RE NOT UM, THEY'RE NOT EXTRUDED OR ARTICULATED.
THEY'RE JUST VERY PLAIN AND EUROPEANS.
IT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE HOUSE I KNOW IS JUST A SKETCH HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION TO THE THERE SPOTS ON THE HOUSE.
WE KEEP IT ALL IN CONCERT WITH ITSELF.
I DO, UM, KIND OF AGREE WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE SIZE OF THE SIDE DOOR.
IT'LL BE A BRICK WALL COMBINATION OF,
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I'M VERY HAPPY THAT THEY WERE VERY CAREFUL.IRREVERSIBLE, IRREVERSIBLE WITHOUT PROPORTION.
AND THAT'S AT THAT LINE DRAWN.
THE MANAGER ARCH MAY THINK IT, I THINK IT'S REALLY TAKING THE LAST, UH, MEETING THAT WE HAD, BUT I DON'T KNOW, I THINK I COULD SUPPORT THIS.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SO THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER AGAIN.
COMM, I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT'S ARCHITECT HAS I H O WORK WITH THE MATERIAL.
SO I'M, I'M A RELUCTANT SUPPORTER OF THIS BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A LOT HAS BEEN ALTERED SIGNIFICANTLY AND HARD LINE WITH THIS.
I'D BE TOTALLY AGREEMENT WITH STAFF ON THIS, BUT I'M ALSO CONSCIOUS THAT, UH, COGNIZANT THAT THIS TO MOVE ON AND TO TRY TO BE PRACTICAL ANY FURTHER.
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL THIS COMMISSIONER VE THE UM, OF THE BORDER IN LA CASA.
ADD THAT TO SECOND SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND, SECOND CALL PLEASE.
SO THE NEXT CASE EDO EDWARD IS JOSEPHINE ANDS ANDREL O
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RECOMMENDS MATERIAL DEVELOPMENT TEAM ON THE PHONE.MR. HALL, COULD YOU UH, PLEASE READ THE PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, I CAN DO THAT.
NOW WE HAVE IT TO RETAIN THE INTIMACY OF THE SIX TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I'M THE ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT ARCHITECTURAL.
PERHAPS TO STREAMLINE THIS A BIT, WOULD YOU LIKE RECOMMENDING WE DON'T TAKE ANY EXCEPTION.
THINK WE WE'RE GONNA MAYBE DIFFERENT.
DIFFERENT, BUT I THINK WE'RE ON BOARD WITH THE SIX FOOT.
MAYBE IT'S JUST ME THAT I'M AUDIO WE CONCUR WITH.
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BENEFIC OPEN THIS UP TO THE COMMISSION? QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALRIGHT.I'M NOT AT ALL SURE ANYBODY CAN HEAR ME.
COMMISSIONER BOWMAN, I THINK THAT ALL WE HAVE SECONDS.
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THERE CHAIRMAN.UM, SYMMETRIC PARTICULAR THE FLAT SEA.
IF YOU WERE TO GO THE ROUTE OF THE, OF THE METAL ROOF, I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, THE EXAMPLE AT UH, 1951 WEST ON UH, AND KIND CLUNKY
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THIS COMMISSIONER?[01:15:43]
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UM, LOS COMMISSIONER, CARPENTER, CARPENTER, THE OPERAT ELEMENT, THE WAS VERY, VERY MUCH PART OF THE INTENT.COMMISSIONER VELAZQUEZ, I APPRECIATE UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER'S COMMENTS VERY, VERY MUCH TO FIGURE AYE.
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RACHEL FINDING A THROUGH CION.SO THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ONE OF THE HOUSE ACTUALLY HAD SIX DIFFERENT TO EIGHT DIFFERENT COLOR PATTERNS.
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THEY JUST KNOW D N A, THE IMPACT CONTRA.I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR MR. COMMISSIONER.
FISH, HOW MUCH OF THE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, BUT GIVE US A SENSE OF HOW MUCH OF THAT NEEDS TO BE.
YEAH, THAT'S, THIS IS COMMISSIONER FETZER.
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COMMISSIONER FETZER.I'VE WORKED ON HISTORIC PROJECTS.
ONE THING THAT WE CONSIDER REPLACING THE BRICK, NO, SELECTIVELY, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAVE THE YELLOW DON'T SELECTIVELY THE DAMAGED RED BRICK.
ONE OPTION WOULD BE EACH OF THOSE YELLOW BRICKS, ONE OF THE MINERAL WASH, ONE UNIFORM COLOR OVER EVERYTHING.
WHAT'S GONNA KEEP THAT LATEX PAINT, WHICH VENT HOLDS MOISTURE AND DETERIORATES THE MIGHT YOU HAVE TO REPLACE, YOU CAN SALVAGE RED BRICK S REPLACE SELECTIVELY STAINED TO MATCH BUENOS PARA INFORMATION.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER LA TO ME.
ONE OF THE ATTRACTIVE CHARACTERISTICS IS, UH, CONTRAST AT ATTRACTIVE AND
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THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.THE, UH, YOU KNOW, POST WORLD WAR II HERE, METAL, WE ALL COMING BACK FROM BEN AND, UM, RESPONDING TO GROWING FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES.
COMMISSIONER, YOU COULD COME UP WITH SOME, DO SOME MOCK UP AND WE CAN COORDINATE IT WITH RACHEL.
KATIE AND UM, WE CAN IF, IF IT, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE, WITH THE BOARD.
THIS IS COMMISSIONER FISH COMM WITH AVAILABILITY APPROPRIATE OF PAINT KIND.
SO I, I THINK THE, TO JUST REVIEW THIS, TO DO THAT, WHAT WE CAN DO IS CONTINUE THIS THAT'S GREAT WITH YOU.
AVAILABLE DATE AVAILABLE TO YOU AND THEY'LL GET THAT ON THE SCHEDULE.
I, SECOND COMMISSIONER HARPER.
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FISH.THE RECOMME CRUZ BARDA HISTORICAL.
OKAY, I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE.
DO I NEED TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID? THIS IS CHAIRMAN HT R C.
THE NEIGHBORING EXCITED ABOUT THE IDEA FROM THE FENCE.
JUMPING FROM A FOUR FOOT TO A SIX FOOT FENCE.
DO WE HAVE UH, COMMENTS ON THIS?
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WE DO, YEAH, I HAVE COMMENTS THAT'LL READ NOW IF YOU HAVE, SO THIS COMES FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY.I'M HEARING SOMEBODY ELSE TALK.
RECOMMENDATION COMMISSIONER VESQUEZ VELASQUEZ.
UM, YOU KNOW, I I TEND TO THINK THAT THERE ARE CORNERSTONE.
WHAT DEFINES DEFINITELY LESSER EXAMPLES OR EXAMPLES DON'T OF THE RULE, RIGHT? ARE REGULAR WHERE GUIDELINES ARE REALLY, MY TENDENCY IS TO, TO LEAN ON THE SIDE OF FOLLOW COMMON ELEMENTS OF COMMUNITY.
COMMISSIONER REQUESTS MEMORY SPECIFIC KIND OF, WE MAY CONSIDER THAT APPRECIATE CONCERN ABOUT SECURITY.
I DON DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AS MUCH PRESENT.
MAYBE THE HISTORIC CASES, UH, NEARBY.
I'M NOT SURE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ARE THINKING I'M HAS AN OPPOSING VIEW.
C BELIEVE AREOLA HAS STEPPED AWAY.
WE ARE DOWN TO, OKAY, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
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ARE YOU THERE? STEPHANIE? I BELIEVE SHE'S TALKING TO THE APPLICANT.STEPH, ARE YOU READY? STEPHANIE? YES, ALYSSA.
OKAY, CAN YOU PULL IT UP? OKAY.
ITEM NUMBER, CASE NUMBER AND THE PERSONNEL ARE RECOMME.
THOSE ARE THE REASONS FOR THE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, FIRST OF ALL, MATERIAL.
YOU HAVE HEARD OUR, I THINK SOME OF THE SIMILAR PHILOSOPHICAL ISSUES COME TO PLAY.
COMMENT ABOUT, UH, RIVER ROAD, CERTAINLY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A, THERE'S DEFINITELY DIFFERENT CONTEXT DIFFERENCES.
CONTEXT WOULD FEEL LIKE MADE THAT WOULD BE A LOSS OF, OF VERY HIGH QUALITY SUPERIOR.
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MATERIAL, THIS IS COMMISSIONER FISH A LARGE, YOU KNOW, THE METAL, A METAL ROOF WITH THAT LARGE SURFACE.THESE TRIANGLES THAT PRESENT THEMSELVES ON THE ROOF RIDGES WHILE I TAKE THE POINT.
COMMISSIONER GIBB, THIS IS CHAIRMAN FETZER FISH.
UM, SO WE ARE READY DRIVE ROBERT MCKENLEY PERSONA SOME VARIATIONS.
THERE'S ALSO PLACES WHERE THE SUPPORTED FOR YES
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INSTEAD OF UH, PLANK SING.LOOKING AT THE REST AND THE BACK OF DURABILITY.
DID WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? NO, WE DID NOT.
NO, NOT, UM, MY, MY THOUGHTS ON THIS, GIVEN THE SHIP ALREADY PART OF THE SITE, IS THAT THAT PROPOSED APPROPRIATE FOR APPROVAL WITH STIPULA? THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
MR. COMMISSIONER CARPENTER LOOKING AT THE PACKAGE HERE.
THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT BECAUSE ARGUMENT MR. CHAIRMAN, I HAVE A COUPLE OF A PLAYING SIDING.
THE SMOOTH FINISH MADERA CONNO ACCEPT THAT AT THE SECOND.
AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION IS, OKAY, SO THERE WON'T BE VINYL NO BEIL BE STAFF STIPULATION.
CAN YOU HEAR ME CHEN? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
OKAY, YOU CAN HEAR THE UH, THE APPLICANT.
ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THE UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER FISH.
COMMISSIONER FISH AND I MADE THE MOTION, I MADE THE MOTION OF VINYL
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STANDARD STIPULATION.PARTICULARLY WHERE, SO THE INTENT OF MY MOTION IS THAT OUR STANDARD WINDOW STIPULATION AND ARE ADDED TO THAT STAFF CAN FOLLOW UP WITH STANDARD.
THAT DETAIL WOULD BE ADDED? YES.
SO THE MOTION IS DOES HE STAND? BELIEVE SO.
MAY YOU HAVE A ROLL CALL PLEASE? FISH.
LET'S GIVE WE A COUPLE MINUTES.
TORE HAND WE ARE YOU THERE? YOU WANT ME TO? YES.
SO, UH, THE, THE APPLICANT MADE CHAIRMAN, THIS IS COMMISSIONER USUALLY UH, WHEN WE DO NOT HAVE THE COMMISSIONER FISH CHAIRMAN FISH.
MOTION BRINGS US TO MEETING MINUTES FROM, UM, THIS IS COMMISSIONER QUEZ QUEZ ON MINUTES FOR THE 17TH.
THERE IS I ON THE MOTION FOR MORATORIUM AUTOMATICA.
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