* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOOD TO GO. WE'RE ON. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE AND I AM THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO INTO SESSION. MAY WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE AT THIS MEETING? SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STAFF. [Roll Call:] MAY WE PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER GRAU. MAKE SURE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF HERE. OKAY. UH, COM. COMMISSIONER JONES. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CAIS? HERE. COMMISSIONER HU PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? HERE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. HERE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? HERE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE PRESENT AND CHAIR MCGEE. PRESENT CORE MS. PRESENT MA'AM. THANK YOU. UH, PRIOR TO, UM, STARTING WITH OUR ITEMS, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UM, STAFF REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT, RIGHT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19? THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW SAN ANTONIO. DO GOV SLASH DSD OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3. TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES. THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING. STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED. STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL. LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGN UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS AND SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION. QUESTIONS CHAIR. THANK YOU. [1. 20-4246 (POSTPONED) ZONING CASE Z-2020-107000031 CD (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 CD AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Motor Vehicle Sales (Full Service) on Lot P-16, NCB 11166, located at 9915 Roosevelt Avenue. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS? YEAH, BUT YOU GOTTA GET THEM ALL. IS MANAGER, UH, THERE IS A POSTPONEMENT OF CASE ENDING THREE. ONE CD ON ROOSEVELT AVENUE HAS ITEM IS POSTPONED AND WILL BE BROUGHT BACK ONCE, UH, IT IS PROPERLY NOTIFIED AND THE APPLICANT'S READY TO PROCEED. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 16 [16. 20-4027 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700139 CD (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 CD AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for a Duplex to "R-6 CD AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for 4 (four) Dwelling Units, on Lots 46, 47 and 48, Block 3, NCB 6842, located at 1551 West Mistletoe Avenue. Staff recommends Denial. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] IS COMPLETELY WITHDRAWN. THIS MEANS THEIR PROCESS HAS STOPPED. THIS IS THE ITEM ENDING ON F ON ENDING IN 1 39 CD LOCATED AT 1551 WEST MISTO AVENUE. SO THEY HAVE STOPPED THE PROCESS. IF THERE'S ANY FURTHER REZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY, THEY WILL HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. OKAY, THANK YOU UHHUH . UM, NOW, UM, OKAY, SO WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT, [Items 4, 11, 14, 17, 19] THE COMBINED HEARING, PLEASE. OKAY. THE ITEMS THAT WE HAVE UP FOR CONSIDERATION ON THE COMBINED HEARING ARE ITEMS NUMBER FOUR, LOCATED AT 28 19 SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE. ITEM 11 LOCATED AT 1115 FRESNO STREET, ITEM 13 LOCATED AT 4 0 9 AGNES DRIVE, ITEM 14 LOCATED AT 1 0 10 0 1 SOUTH ALAMO STREET. ITEM NUMBER 17 LOCATED AT 1815 RA BOULEVARD. AND ITEM NUMBER 19 WILL BE ON A SECOND COMBINED HEARING FOR A REFUSAL. MS. FLORES, MS. FLORES, UM, SO YOU READ, UH, ITEM NUMBER 13, SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT IT'S NO LONGER ON INDIVIDUAL? NO, I'M SORRY MA'AM. THAT ITEM IS ON INDIVIDUALS PER, UH, COMMISSIONER REHOUSE. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND SO THEN THE FINAL ITEM WAS JUST THAT COMBINED HEARING ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS ITEM NUMBER 19, LOCATED AT EIGHT 12 SOUTH COLORADO STREET, EIGHT 16 AND [00:05:01] COLORADO STREET AND 10 24 EL PASO. OKAY, WE'RE READY. AND IF YOU'RE READY, CAN READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD? YES, PLEASE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C2 A H O D FROM MS 33 A H O D TO C2 A H O D LOCATED AT 28 19 SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE. THERE WERE NINE NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THERE WAS ONE INDIVIDUAL OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR A H O V TO OH ONE A H O B, LOCATED AT 1 1 1 5 FRESNO STREET. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM LOS ANGELES HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE N H H A H O D TO IDZ ONE HHS A H O D WITH USE PERMITTED IN C ONE LOCATED AT 10 0 1 SOUTH ALAMO STREET. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND KING WILLIAM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE A H O D, THE C ONE A H O D, LOCATED AT 1815 REINE BOULEVARD. THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THOSE ARE THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS. AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD THE LETTERS IN FAVOR ASSOCIATED WITH THESE ITEMS. ITEMS FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, ON BEHALF OF THE FUTURE OWNER AND DEVELOPER OF 74 0 2 SOUTH NEW BRAUNFELS FRANKLIN DEVELOPMENT COMPANIES, I WOULD LIKE TO INDICATE MY SUPPORT FOR D 20 21 0 7 0 1 23. THE REZONING ON SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE. THE REQUESTED COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING ADJACENT USES AND WILL COMPLIMENT THE AREA WITH THE ACTIVITY AND NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING TO THIS CORRIDOR. A COMMERCIAL USE AT THIS LOCATION WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SURROUNDING BUSINESSES. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME WITH QUESTIONS. RYAN WILSON FRANKLIN DEVELOPMENT ALSO FOR ITEM NUMBER FOUR, THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS A C TWO ZONING CHANGE WITH DEED RESTRICTIONS TO INCLUDE NOT TO ALLOW BARS. TAVERNS NIGHTCLUB FOR ZONING CASE Z 20 21 0 7 0 0. THANK YOU. JENNIFER RAMOS, PRESIDENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 11 IS RES AND SUSAN GALLS OF 1 1 1 2 FRESNO SUPPORTS THE REQUEST. ALSO FOR ITEM NUMBER 14, THE KING WILLIAM ASSOCIATION ARCHITECTURAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE REVIEWED THE APPLICATION FOR REZONING AND SUPPORT THE REQUEST ZONING CONRAD. AND ALSO FOR ITEM 14, CINDY AND MICHAEL CONRAD AT THREE 10 MADISON ARE IN FAVOR. AND THEN FOR ITEM NUMBER 17, ENDING IN 1 4 0, LOCATED ON DURRA, IT SAYS REGARDING ZONING CASE D 20 21 0 7 40 AT 1815 DORA BOULEVARD. PLEASE ACCEPT THIS EMAIL AS MY VOTE IN FAVOR OF THE ZONING REQUEST. I AM THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1802 DURRA BOULEVARD. THANK YOU FOR SPEAKING WITH ME TODAY ON THE PHONE AND ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS. ROEL GONZALEZ GONZALEZ, PRESIDENT AND C E O MADAM CHAIR, THOSE ARE ALL OF THE COMBINED HEARING ITEMS IN, UH, COMBINED HEARING ONE. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION? MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEMS 4 11 14 AND 17. THIS IS JONES. I SECOND IT. THANK [00:10:01] YOU. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO 10 TO ZERO. THANK YOU. SO NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR, UH, COMBINED HEARING. [19. 20-4028 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700154 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "IDZ HL MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Infill Development Zoning Historic Landmark Lackland Airforce Base Military Lighting Region-2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in “C-1 CD” Light Commercial District with a Conditional Use for a Meeting Hall/Reception Hall and "MF-33 HL MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Multi-Family Historic Landmark Lackland Airforce Base Military Lighting Region-2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ H HL MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Infill Development Zoning Historic Rinconcito de Esperanza Historic Landmark Lackland Airforce Base Military Lighting Region-2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted in “C-1 CD” Light Commercial District with a Conditional Use for a Meeting Hall/Reception Hall and "MF-33 H HL MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Multi-Family Historic Rinconcito de Esperanza Historic Landmark Lackland Airforce Base Military Lighting Region-2 Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 11, the south 8.7 feet of Lot 15, and Lot 19, Block 2, NCB 2440, located at 812 South Colorado Street, 816 South Colorado Street and 1024 El Paso Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] UM, I, UH, ITEM FOR NUMBER TWO AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS, UH, MUTING HER CAMERA. HER MICROPHONE IS MUTED BECAUSE SHE IS RECUSING HERSELF FOR THIS, UM, ITEM. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. ITEM NUMBER 19 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I D D H LM TWO MLR TWO A H O D WITH USE PERMITTED IN C1 CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MEETING HALL, RECEPTION HALL AND M MS 33 HL M L O D TWO MLR TWO A H O TO I D D H H L M L O D TWO MLR TWO A H O D WITH USES PERMITTED IN C ONE CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR MEETING HALL, RECEPTION HALL AND MF 33 H HHL M L O D TWO MLR TWO A H O D, LOCATED AT EIGHT 12 SOUTH COLORADO STREET, EIGHT 16 SOUTH COLORADO STREET AND 10 24 EL PASO. AND THIS IS TO INCORPORATE THE HISTORIC HISTORIC LANDMARK DESIGNATION ON THIS PROPERTY. THERE WERE 42 NOTICES MAILED SIX WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION IS IN FAVOR. AND WE DO HAVE ONE MESSAGE TO PLAY FOR THIS ITEM. HI, THIS IS KAYLA MIRANDA. MY ADDRESS IS 10 13 SOUTH SANTO ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT OH TWO OR TWO. UM, MY PHONE NUMBER'S (210) 727-8755 AND I AM SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM 19. IT'S THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION OF 8 12 8 16, UH, SOUTH COLORADO AND 10 24 EL PASO, UM, AT THE RESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M FOUR FOR THE HISTORIC PRESENTATION AND I THINK IT WOULD REALLY HAVE BEEN GOOD TO HAVE, UM, ITS FIRST HISTORIC SITE AND HOPEFULLY MORE TO COME. UM, I CAN ONLY SEE POSITIVE COMING FROM THIS. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND THIS IS ONE FROM MY HOME DISTRICT AND I WANNA NOTE THAT THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, BUT SOME PEOPLE WITHHELD IT TO TRY TO STREAMLINE THE MEETING GIVEN THAT IT WAS ON CONSENT. UH, SO I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER 19. I SECONDED. THANK YOU. UH, UH, MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER JONES. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YES, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. OKAY. COMMISSIONER KA. YES. COMMISSIONER WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? [00:15:01] YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE FIVE AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ZERO. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO NOW LET US SHOW FOR THE RECORD THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS UNMUTING HER CAMERA AND HER MICROPHONE AND REJOINING THE MEETING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, SO WE ARE READY TO MOVE ON TO THE INDIVIDUAL ITEMS IN OUR HEARING. [2. 20-4217 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700042 ERZD (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 ERZD" Residential Single-Family Edwards Recharge Zone District to "MXD ERZD" Mixed Use Edwards Recharge Zone District on Lot 1, NCB 17462; Lot 4, NCB 14614; and 0.353 acres out of CB 4528, located at 12400 South Hausman Road. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2020-11600010) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER. THIS IS MERCEDES REVA, SENIOR PLANNER WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST FROM R SIX E R Z D TO MX D E RZ D LOCATED AT 1 2 4 0 0 SOUTH HOUSEMAN ROAD. THERE WERE 33 NOTICES SENT OUT AND WE RECEIVED FOUR SUPPORT 12 IN OPPOSITION. FIELDSTONE H H A IS IN OPPOSITION AND 26 MAILOUTS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY ARE IN OPPOSITION. THE CURRENT R SIX IS NOT APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY NEAR LARGE SPORTS FACILITIES AND MAJOR HIGHWAYS WHERE IT COULD CURRENTLY BE DEVELOPED AS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE REQUESTED M X D WITH MS 25 AND C TWO USES IS A MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA WHILE ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO ADD DIVERSITY OF HOUSING AND RETAIL OPTIONS THAT RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MS CHAIR, THANK YOU. MAY, UH, WE HAVE, LET'S SEE, LEMME MAKE SURE THAT'S, UH, BEFORE WE START WITH SAWS, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR THE RECORD, UH, THE PETITION RECEIVED. GO AHEAD, MERCEDES. OKAY. YES. UH, I OH, YOU WANTED HER TO SHOW IT OR WE JUST MOVING TO THE SAWS RIGHT NOW? OH, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR COMMENT. WE JUST WANTED TO, WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, CLARIFY THAT WE ALSO RECEIVED A PETITION WITH, UH, SEVERAL HUNDRED SIGNATURES IN OPPOSITION AS WELL. OKAY. AND WE JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. MAY WE, SORRY, THIS IS COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. I'M RECUSING FROM THIS CASE. OKAY, SO LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE A CAMERA MUTED. UM, MICROPHONE MUTED RECUSING FROM UH, ITEM NUMBER TWO ON OUR AGENDA AND NOW WE WILL HAVE THE SAS REPRESENTATIVE PLEASE. YES. UM, MIKE, MIKE WAS ANTE WITH FALLS OFF FOR PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION. UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION LOCATED AT THE 12,400 BLOCK OF SOUTH HAUSMAN ROAD AND CHAMPIONS GATE ROAD TO ALLOW A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT. NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES WERE OBSERVED, HOWEVER, AN EXISTING WELL WAS NOTED ON SITE. THE 9.39 ACRE DEVELOPMENT IS LIMITED TO 65% IMPERVIOUS COVER AND REQUIRES A PERMANENT BEST MANAGEMENT PRACTICE SYSTEM TO TREAT STORMWATER RUNOFF. SOS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH ALL RECOMMENDATIONS WITHIN THE REPORT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? JAMES, ARE YOU THERE? GO AHEAD. ME'S THERE? I KNOWS. JAMES, ARE YOU THERE? UH, IT THIS IS RAJIV. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU RIGHT? YEAH. JAMES, YOU THERE? YES. JAMES, I HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY, GO AHEAD. OKAY. OKAY, GREAT. UM, ALRIGHT. JAMES MCKNIGHT, BRIAN ORTIZ, 1 1 2 EAST PE COMP REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER. UM, AS STAFF SAID, THIS IS ABOUT 9.4 ACRES AND WE ARE REQUESTING M X D, SO MIXED USE FROM WITH C TWO AND MF 25 USES. UM, IT'S MY SLIDE ARE UP. IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE NUMBER TWO PLEASE. UM, THIS IS A SLIDE THAT IS SHOWING THE CONTEXT AND AERIAL CONTEXT OF OUR SITE REALLY TO SHOW LUKE 1604 TO THE WEST. THERE'S A LARGE SCHOOL COMPLEX ATHLETIC AND AUDITORIUM TO THE NORTH OF US, MULTIFAMILY TO THE NORTH OF THAT MULTIFAMILY TO OUR WEST AND TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST YOU CAN SEE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. SO THE REASON FOR SHOWING THIS IS REALLY HOW OUR SITE IS THIS TRANSITIONAL SITE BETWEEN INTENSIVE USES AND SINGLE FAMILY TO THE OTHER SIDE OF US. SLIDE NUMBER THREE. SLIDE THREE JUST SHOWS A ZOOMED IN AERIAL OF OUR SITE AND HERE YOU CAN SEE THE PROXIMITY OF THAT AUDITORIUM ABOUT A 60 FOOT TALL BUILDING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CHAMPIONS GATE. WE ARE, UH, IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A THREE STORY APARTMENT THE WEST OF US. AND IF YOU CAN SEE IN THIS PHOTO, THERE'S A, AN EXISTING 30 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD FIELDSTONE TO THE SOUTH OF US. [00:20:01] SLIDE FOUR. THIS IS SLIDE SHOWING THE CON CONTEXT OF THE LAND USE OF THE NORTH SECTOR PLAN. UH, IT'S IMPORTANT NOT JUST BECAUSE PLANNING COMMISSION DID UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR OUR OUR PLAN AMENDMENT TO GENERAL URBAN TIER, BUT ALSO TO SHOW HOW 1604 HAS THESE REGIONAL CENTER USES ON IT TO THE SOUTH. WE HAVE GENERAL URBAN TO THE NORTH OF THE THE N I S D SITE, AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING IS THAT THAT BUFFER OF GENERAL URBAN BETWEEN US, UH, BETWEEN THE SCHOOL AND THE SINGLE FAMILY TO THE SOUTH. NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE FIVE IS THE REGIONAL VIEW OF THE ZONING. SO YOU CAN SEE HOW ALONG 6 0 4 YOU SEE THE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES IN C THREE, SOME C TWO MS 33 TO THE SOUTH OF US, NORTH OF N A S I S B PROPERTY. YOU CAN CAN SEE MS 18, MS 25, MS 33. THERE WAS ACTUALLY AN M X D WITH AN MS 25 USES THAT WAS APPROVED JUST LAST YEAR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SCHOOL, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE ARE REQUESTING. SLIDE SIX AGAIN, JUST A ZOOM IN SHOT OF OUR SITE AND IT'S A LITTLE CLEARER FROM THIS. YOU CAN SEE THE 30 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT BETWEEN OUR SITE AND THE HOMEOWNERS. SLIDE SEVEN, THIS IS OUR PROPOSED SITE PLAN AT THIS TIME. UM, THIS IS AFTER MEETING WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO IN, IN MARCH WE INITIALLY HAD A ZONING APPLICATION THAT HAD MF 33 USES. UH, WE MET VIRTUALLY WITH THE H O A IN MARCH. THEY HAD CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC, NUMBER OF UNITS, PROXIMITY TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HEIGHT WERE SOME OF THE MAIN CONCERNS. WE THEN AMENDED OUR APPLICATION TO BRING IT DOWN TO MF 25, BUT WE ALSO REDESIGNED THE PLAN TO, AT THE INITIALLY IT SHOWED 10 BUILDINGS THAT WERE SPREAD OUT. AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS NOW CLUSTERED THOSE BUILDINGS, THE TWO PRIMARY BUILDINGS THAT ARE FOUR STORY, BUT PUSH 140, 180 FEET AWAY FROM THE H O A AT, AT THE MAJORITY OF THE BUILDING ITSELF. NEXT SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT. I ALSO WANNA TALK ABOUT THE, THE CONTEXT, UH, OF PLANNING IN GENERAL THAT SA TOMORROW HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE IS A LARGE POPULATION COMING TO SAN ANTONIO AND WE THERE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT POPULATION. SA TOMORROW. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE NINE THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS THAT AND THAT'S WITH DENSITY, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS IN THE NORTH WHERE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH LAND TO CAPTURE WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE CURRENT DENSITY PATTERN. SO REALLY AS PART OF THE CITY'S ADOPTED POLICY, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TRYING TO INCREASE DENSITY WHERE WE CAN. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. SLIDE NUMBER 10. THIS SHOWS A, A, A BETTER CONTEXT OF OF THAT TRANSITION. YOU CAN SEE LUKE 1604 IN THE PHOTO APARTMENTS AGAINST IT, THE N N I S D PROPERTY WITH THE MORATORIUM. AND THEN THERE'S OUR PROPERTY, THIS, THIS STRIP OF LAND THAT IS THE PERFECT BUFFER BETWEEN THE INTENSIVE USES TO THE NORTH AND TO THE WEST AND THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING TO THE SOUTH. SO WE ARE, WE ARE THAT BUFFER AND THAT'S THE, THE MIXED USE OF COMMERCIAL AND MULTI-FAMILY. SLIDE NUMBER 11, THIS IS JUST A, ANOTHER SLIDE TO TO POINT OUT. AGAIN, 107 FEET IS THE BUFFER THAT WE'VE ALLOWED BY GOING AT FOUR FEET, AT TWO PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING, BUT THERE ARE NO PATIOS FACING THAT DIRECTION. 176 FEET IS THE MAIN BUFFER THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED. NEXT SLIDE IN 12, KEEPING THE VIEW DOWN THE 30 FOOT EASEMENT SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET A VIEW OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE THAT SEPARATION AS IT IS. AND WE ARE ONLY INCREASING THAT AFTER THIS 30 FEET. ANOTHER 145 FEET AFTER THIS IS, IS WHERE OUR BUILDING WOULD, WOULD START. TREES WOULD BE KEPT AND WE'RE PROPOSING AN EIGHT FOOT MASONRY FENCE AS WELL. SLIDE NUMBER 13. THIS SHOWS A SECTION THAT YOU CAN SEE JUST HOW FAR APART WE ARE, ARE, THIS IS ACTUALLY ONLY SHOWING 107 FEET, BUT THAT'S WITH NO BALCONIES. UM, WE WOULD BE ANOTHER 40 FEET PAST THIS. IF YOU HAD A SINGLE FAMILY THERE, THEY'D BE MUCH CLOSER. AND AS STAFF SAID, IF YOU CAN GO TO STAFF, UH, SLIDE 14, ANOTHER LARGER CONTEXT. WE ARE IN THIS TRANSITIONAL ZONE AND, AND WE IN SINGLE FAMILY IS JUST NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THAT ZONE. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER RAJIV AND JUST ASK FOR SOME REBUTT TIME AT THE END. THANK YOU JAMES. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DISCUSS. I HAVE A LARGER PRESENTATION HERE, BUT I IN RESPECT FOR YOUR TIME, I WILL GO THROUGH IT A LOT FASTER, UH, TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT YOU, UH, UNDERSTAND THERE'S TWO COMPONENTS TO MY FIRST PART, WHICH IS THE FIRST 20 SLIDES. JUST GIVES YOU BACKGROUND ON WHO WE ARE, THE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE DONE IN SAN ANTONIO AND CENTRAL TEXAS. UH, I'LL GO THROUGH THOSE REALLY, REALLY FAST. AND THEN THE LAST EIGHT SLIDES ARE MORE ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE DONE ON THIS PROJECT TO, UH, MAKE A ACCOMMODATIONS AND TO COORDINATE AND, AND THE, UH, AND THE FINAL REQUEST. UM, SO WITH THAT, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GO, UH, ACTUALLY BEFORE I GO, MY, UH, I'LL PROVIDE NAME IS RAJI CORY. ADDRESS IS 6 0 0 2 CAMP [00:25:01] PULITZ ROAD, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 7 1. NUMBER 2 1 0 6 9 8 3 0 0 4. SO WITH THAT, IF WE WOULD PLEASE GO TO SLIDE TWO. AS I SAID IN THE FIRST 25 WE'RE YOU ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU A, JUST A, A, A BACKGROUND ON WHO WE ARE. SO THIS SLIDE ON TWO SHOWS THE DIVERSITY OF PROJECTS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, MASTER PLAN, MULTI-FAMILY. YOU CAN READ THROUGH A LOT OF THIS. UH, I WON'T SPEND A LOT TIME. IT'S, UH, URBAN, UH, REDEVELOPMENT, UH, MEDICAL FACILITIES, UH, AND, AND RETAIL RESTAURANTS. SLIDE THREE. HERE WE START GIVING YOU SOME SITE PLANS AND PICTURES OF THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED. THIS WAS LE CHATEAU AT THE DOMINION. IT WAS A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. YOU COULD SEE THE PICTURE ON THE . SLIDE FOUR SHOWS 187 ACRE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT INSIDE THE DOMINION, WHERE WE DEVELOPED FOUR DIFFERENT NEIGHBOR, FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS. UH, THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAD ENDANGERED SPECIES ON THIS PROPERTY AND, UH, AS WE HAVE, YOU'LL SEE OUR REPUTATION AND HOW WE WORK. WE, UH, RATHER THAN TRYING TO NOT DEAL WITH THE ISSUE, WE WENT STRAIGHT UP TO CAMP BULLIS AND WITH US FISH AND WILDLIFE AND MAJOR CONSERVANCY AND WE WORKED WITH THEM ON A, A SECTION SEVEN PERMIT TO, UH, ALLOW FOR A DEVELOPMENT OF ENDANGERED SPECIES. WE PURCHASED A 223 ACRE PROPERTY OUT IN MEDINA WITH HABITAT AND WE DONATED THAT IN MITIGATION PROPERTY. SO IT WAS A VERY CREATIVE DEAL, THE ONLY ONE EVER DONE IN TEXAS. UH, SO THAT'S FROM SLIDE FOUR. SLIDE FIVE JUST GIVES YOU EXAMPLES OF THE TYPES OF, UH, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE DID INSIDE THE DOMINION. SAME THING. SLIDE SIX. THIS IS IN ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS. ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS. SLIDE SEVEN IS DOMINION CROSSING. THIS IS A MIXED USE PROJECT THAT WE HAVE DONE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET FROM DOMINION. IT'S 27 ACRES. WE HAVE LA GLORIA RESTAURANT THERE. WE HAVE SOME RETAIL. UH, WE, UH, SOLD A PIECE OF PROPERTY, 10 ACRES FOR A 334 UNIT MULTIFAMILY. UH, WE HAVE MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE, UH, AND UH, CHILDCARE CENTER, SLIDE EIGHT, SOME PICTURES OF THAT DEVELOPMENT. SLIDE NINE A PROJECT WE HAVE IN STAIR OAKS, UH, ON I 10, UH, INSIDE, UH, SAN ANTONIO, E D J, UH, THERE WAS A 19 ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY. WE DEVELOPED A 292 UNIT MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY. AND WE ARE DOING MEDICAL OFFICES IN, IN FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY ON I 10 ALONG WITH A MONTESSORI SCHOOL. UH, AND THAT DEVELOPMENT, SLIDE 10 SHOWS YOU PICTURES OF THAT MULTIFAMILY, THE 292 UNIT MULTIFAMILY THAT WE DID. YOU CAN SEE THE CLUBHOUSE, THE POOL AREA, AND SOME UNITS. SLIDE 10 11 IS ANOTHER MIXED USE PROJECT THAT WE, UH, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON. IT'S 1604 AND LOOKOUT. IT'S ALSO IN CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, NEAR IKEA AND I 35 WHERE WE, UH, ACQUIRED 52 ACRES FOR MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS. WE DEVELOPED A 320 UNIT MULTIFAMILY PROJECT, WHICH IS, UH, UH, LEASED UP AND IT'S, UH, STABILIZED 93% OCCUPANCY. UH, WE SOLD, UH, A TRACK FOR A SHELL GAS STATION AND C STORE. UH, WE DID AN OVERALL ARCHITECTURAL REQUIREMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS COHESIVE. THERE'S A THREE STORY CLIMATIZED, UH, STORAGE. UH, THERE, WE'RE DOING MEDICAL, UH, UH, OFFICE BUILDINGS IN THE FRONT. WE'RE DEVELOPING A SECOND MULTIFAMILY IN THE BACK WITH ABOUT 293 UNITS THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S, UH, WE'RE DOING THAT UH, WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. UH, SLIDE NUMBER 12 IS PICTURES FROM OUR 320 UNIT MARKET RATE, THE POOL, THE CLUBHOUSE, UH, THE ENTRANCE AREA. SO IT SHOWS YOU THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT THAT WE BUILD. UH, SLIDE NUMBER 13 IS A PROJECT WE HAVE IN SOUTHTOWN IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BY, UH, VAL STREET ON VAL STREET AND SOUTH FLORE. UH, WE HAVE FIVE ACRES. UH, IT'S A MIXED USE. WE HAVE A 292 UNIT MULTIFAMILY WITH A GARAGE. UH, AND WE HAVE, UH, SOME RETAIL OFFICE IN TOWN. HOME RA THAT'S UH, THAT'S A TOTAL OF 10 MINUTES ALREADY. UM, I'M GONNA LEAVE, UH, GIVE IT BACK TO THE CHAIR TO SEE WHAT UH, SHE WANTS TO DO. OKAY. SO, UM, YES, THANK YOU. UM, MS. RAJI, UM, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. IF YOU'LL, UM, UM, HOLD ON THE LINE, UH, BECAUSE WE WILL LIKELY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO, UM, YES, PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT PLEASE. HENRY AND OLGA AT 1 2 5 2 6 PALOMA TRAIL. WE'VE BEEN RESIDENTS AT FIELDSTONE SINCE 1997 AND WITH PLANS TO TO REZONE 200 FEET NEAR US, WE FEEL IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO SPEAK OUT. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE [00:30:01] BUILDING OF APARTMENTS THAT WILL CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC IN AN ALREADY WELL POPULATED AREA. IF ANY CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE PLACE, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE A BETTER AND SMARTER ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY. THE SAFETY AND WELLBEING OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS OF THE U UTMOST IMPORTANCE. AND WE HAVE DALE MEN AT 1 2 5 3 4 PALOMA TRAIL. DEAR COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS DALE MEN. I'M A HOMEOWNER OF FIELDSTONE SINCE 1997 AND I LIVE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY C TWO MIXED DEVELOPMENT ON SOUTH HOUSEMAN FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE INTERSECTION AT CHAMPION GATE IN SOUTH HAUSMAN CANNOT HANDLE THE TRAFFIC CREATED BY A MULTI-FAMILY MIXED-USE DEVELOPMENT, A FEW HUNDRED, 300 UNITS AND RETAIL CENTER DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR. THERE IS ALREADY CONGESTION THAT BACKS UP TO THE ONLY ENTRANCE OF OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS ALREADY IMPOSSIBLE TO MAKE A LEFT TURN ONTO CHAMPION GATE DUE TO FAST AND HEAVY TRAFFIC COMING FROM THE SCHOOLS. ALSO, THERE IS NOT A CROSSWALK AT THE INTERSECTION NEIGHBORHOOD CHILDREN AND OTHER PEDESTRIANS ARE AT EARTH OF GETTING HIT BY MOTOR VEHICLES. THE DEVELOPER'S PLAN IS TO HAVE THEIR ENTRANCE ACROSS FROM AN EXISTING APARTMENT ENTRANCE. THIS WILL CAUSE ADDITIONAL CONGESTION AND BACKUP. THERE IS ALSO NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION ON SOUTH HAUSMAN WHICH WILL ADD MORE TRAFFIC TO THE INTERSECTION. NEXT, THE DEVELOPER'S PROPOSAL PRESENTED AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS MISLEADING. THEY PRESENTED A PROPOSED PROJECT TO FIELDSTONE, WHICH WE WERE ALL IN OPPOSITION TO AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THE DEVELOPER SHADED, HE MADE SOME SESSIONS BASED ON OUR SUGGESTION, WHICH IS INCORRECT. CHANGES MADE WERE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF SAW CRITERIA AND AND U D C CODE, NOT HOMEOWNERS. RESIDENTS ASKED THE DEVELOPER TO PRESERVE THE TREES ALONG THE FENCE LINE ADJACENT TO HOMEOWNERS WITH FEET THAT THE UNITS WERE TO BE NO HIGHER THAN THREE STORIES. THERE ARE NO FOUR STORY APARTMENTS ANYWHERE NEARBY. SO I HERE WE MENTIONED THE CONCERN WITH THE MAIN ENTRANCE BEING ON SOUTH HOUSEMAN, WE REQUEST, WE REQUESTED IT TO BE LOCATED ON CHAMPION GATE AND THE ONE ON SOUTH HAMAN SERVES AN EMERGENCY EXIT. ONLY THEIR CURRENT PROPOSED PROPOSAL HAS REMOVED ALL TREES ALONG THE FENCE LINE AND REPLACED WITH TWO DETENTION PONDS, PARKING SPACE AND FOUR STORE UNITS. IT DID NOT TAKE OUR CONCERN INTO CONSIDERATION NOR OF CONCESSIONS WITH HOMEOWNERS. IN NEGOTIATED AT THE HOMEOWNER OF FIELDSTONE, I AM IN FAVOR OF KEEPING IT ZONED TO OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY HOMES TO TO BE BUILT INSTEAD OF MULTI-FAMILY MIXED U C TWO DEVELOPMENT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WILL ADD CONSIDERABLY LESS TRAFFIC FOR OUR ALREADY CONGESTED AREA AND WE HAVE PATRICIA BROWN FOR RITA E BROWN. GOOD MORNING. AHEAD OF THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS SET FOR TUESDAY, JULY 21ST. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TOVO TO VOICE MY MOTHER RITA E BROWN'S CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED REZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. WE, WE REALIZE THAT THE AREA WILL EVENTUALLY BE DEVELOPED. IT NEEDS TO REMAIN AS IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE. THE NEIGHBORS IN FIELDSTONE HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE DEVELOPER AND WHILE WE LISTENED TO WHAT THE DEVELOPER HAD TO SAY, WE DID NOT NECESSARILY AGREE WITH IT. WE'RE IN OPPOSITION TO HAVING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX BUILT ON CHAMPION'S WAY AS PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER AND THE DEVELOPER IS ALLOWED TO BUILD AS HE HAS PROPOSED. THE TRAFFIC SITUATION THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THIS AREA WILL BE GREATLY INCREASED. THIS AREA OF TOWN HAS BEEN AN EXPLOSION IN BUILDING AND DEVELOPMENT. THERE IS ALREADY AN APARTMENT COMPLEX CHAMPION'S GATE APARTMENTS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE ENTRANCE STONE, WHICH HAS GREATLY INCREASED THE TRAFFIC ISSUE. NOT TO MENTION THE N I S D ATHLETIC COMPLEX, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE AREA THAT THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO USE FOR A 234 UNIT FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING WITH A COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THIS AREA OF SAN ANTONIO ALREADY HAS A NUMBER OF NEW HOMES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT OR ARE BEING BUILT, WHICH MAKES WALKING, BIKING AND GETTING OUT OF FIELDSTONE A DAUNTING TASK. THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY IN AND OUTTA THE FIELDSTONE AND THIS ON AND THIS ONTO SOUTH HOUSMAN. THIS IS SAME FOR THE CHAMPIONS SKATE APARTMENTS. THEY ENTER AND EXIT ONTO SOUTH HOUSMAN. OUR CONCERNS REGARDING TRAFFIC ARE ECHOED BY OTHERS IN THE ALREADY EXISTING SUBDIVISIONS, WHICH ALSO USE SOUTH HOUSMAN. THIS TRAFFIC THEN FLOWS ONTO CHAMPIONS GATE. WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT WOULD BE ANYONE'S INTEREST EXCEPT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC AND OTHER ISSUES. I COME ALONG WITH ADDING A 234 UNIT FOUR STORY APARTMENT BUILDING WITH A, WITH A COMMERCIAL BUILDING. THE AREA WOULD BE BETTER SERVING, KEEPING IT ZONED AS IT IS NOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOME. CHERYL MIN AT 1 2 5 3 4 PALOMA TRAIL. DEAR COMMISSIONERS, MY NAME IS CHERYL MIN, A 23 YEAR OLD HOMEOWNER OF FIELDSTONE SUBDIVISION, A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF FISHER STATE. I'M A, I AM A COMPLETE OPPOSITION OF THE PROPOSED REZONING AT SOUTH HOUSEMAN AND CHAMPION SCAPE TO BE TO TO BUILD MIXED U C TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AT MULTIFAMILY MS 25. A DRAMATIC INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN IS OF THE UTMOST CONCERN. DURING NON COVID OVID 19 ORAL BUSINESS SCHOOL DAYS, STUDENT SAFETY IS ALREADY A CONCERN DUE TO THE NUMEROUS SIDEWALK GAPS. LONG SOUTH HOUSEMAN AND CHAMPION SKATE STUDENTS FROM STENBERG SIMPSON AND BRANDEIS ARE DEPENDENT UPON BUS TRANSPORTATION. CHILDREN FROM FIELDSTONE AND OTHER NEIGHBORS GET PICKED UP AND DROPPED OFF LONG SOUTH HOUSEMAN CHILDREN FROM THREE EXISTING MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS [00:35:01] ON SOUTH HOUSEMAN HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE. SOUTH HOUSEMAN IS A SINGLE LANE ROAD BETWEEN TWO ROAD AND CHAMPION SCAPE CANNOT BE WIDENED TO IMPLEMENT SAFE SIDEWALKS AND BY PLANES. PEDESTRIANS OF ALL AGES WALK TO EVENTS AT FERRIS ATHLETIC COMPLEX AUDITORIUM SWIM CENTER AND SUPPORT CENTER IN BRANDEIS HIGH SCHOOL RESIDENTS WHO JOG AND OR WALK AROUND FER ON A DAILY BASIS EXPERIENCE SAFETY CONCERNS ATTEMPTING TO CROSS HOUSE HOUSEMAN CHAMPION SKATE SIDEWALK, WATER RIDGE AND KYLE STEEL TO GET TO A SAFE SIDEWALK. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE FIVE NEW CONSTRUCTION SITES OF BOTH SINGLE-FAMILY AND MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. IMMEDIATE AREA ON TOP OF HOUSEMAN NEW WELCOME, 42 NEW HOME SITES WHERE THE DEVELOPER PRESERVES MANY OF THE EXISTING TREES. THERE IS ALSO NEW DEVELOPMENT SKYHAWK AND STADIUM POINT KYLE FIELD ACROSS FROM BRANDEIS WEST HOUSEMAN ADJACENT TO BRANDEIS AND BANDERA ROAD NEAR PRU ROAD. THESE DEVELOPMENTS ARE WITHIN A MILE AND A HALF OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT. THESE FIVE DEVELOPMENTS ON COMPLETE ONCE COMPLETED WILL ADD A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC TO THE AREA. SOUTH HAUSMAN A SINGLE LANE ROAD CANNOT HANDLE THE DRAMATIC INCREASE IN TRAFFIC DRIVERS, MANY OF WHICH ARE YOUNG AND INEXPERIENCED. HAVE DIFFICULTY NAVIGATING THROUGH THE AREA AT A SAFE SPEED, SPEED RACING LANE AT NIGHT, ESPECIALLY AFTER SPORTS EVENTS IS NOT UNCOMMON ALONG. CHAMPION STATE THE HIGH LEVEL OF TRAFFIC FROM EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS C T S A STUDENTS AND OTHER COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUTATORS WHO WORK IN THE AREA TRAVEL SOUTH HA ROAD TO AVOID BACKUP ON BANDERA ROAD. BACKUP ON THE FEEDER ROAD IS J DEAN. UH, THERE WAS NO ADDRESS GIVEN FOR THIS MILL OUT. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND CHANGE OF TIER AND ZONING FOR THE ABOVE, ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY AND REQUEST THAT STAFF RECOMMEND DENIAL BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FACTORS, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL DESTROY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE EXISTING CHAMPION. SKATE APARTMENTS ALREADY CROWDED. INSPECTION OF SOUTH HAUS AND CHAMPIONS GATE TRAFFIC WILL BACK UP ALL THE WAY TO PALOMA CREEK AND LAKE BREN MAKING IT VERY DIFFICULT TO TURN FROM LAKE BRENHAM. PALOMA CREEK TO HAUSEN ROAD FLOODING THE FRENCH CREEK WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASED ALREADY MANY PROPERTIES ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND MANY OTHERS WILL BE PUT IN THE FLOODPLAIN. ALSO MATURE OAK. OAK TREES ARE CUT DOWN AND DESTROYED. MORE POLLUTION IN THE EDWARD AQUIFER RECHARGE ZONE. BIRD SANCTUARIES DESTROYED. PLEASE FORWARD MY OPPOSITION TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BETTY TAN. MR. PEPE REGARD REGARDING THE FOLLOWING ZONING PROJECT, I STRONGLY OPPOSE TO THE FOUR STORY MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS AND MIXED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED. HOUSE HOUSE ROAD IS ONLY A TWO LANE ROAD, ONE LANE EACH DIRECTION. IT IS NOT GOOD A GOOD FIT FOR OUR AREA. IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, THERE ARE ALREADY THREE N A S D SCHOOLS AND APARTMENT COMPLEX AND AN ATHLETIC COMPLEX. THIS PROJECT IS NOT WARRANTED FOR THE AREA WITH THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE ALREADY ON TODD HOUSING AND THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY TERRIBLE IN THE MORNING. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE WITH WHAT THESE DEVELOPERS ARE PROPOSING AND OF COURSE THEY DON'T CARE. THEY'RE NOT THE ONES LIVING HERE. THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THE MONEY AND PROFIT. THESE DEVELOPERS CAN AFFORD TO BUILD THEIR PROJECT ELSEWHERE AWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AWAY FROM PRIMARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS AND AWAY FROM SOUTH HEALTHMAN WHICH CANNOT ENDURE THE TRAFFIC. IT DOES NOT SAFE TO ADD 234 UNITS AND 500 PLUS PARKING NOR DOES IT BRING VALLEY TO EXISTING COMMUNITY. I MOVED HERE FROM HOUSTON WHERE I LIVED TO FOUR YEARS SO I CAN PERSONALLY ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT OVERCROWDING AND RAISING OF TREES AND GRASS WILL ONLY LEAD TO CHAOS, FLOODING AND TRAFFIC NIGHTMARES. I URGE THE ZONING COMMISSION TO REJECT THESE DEVELOPERS PLAN TO CONSIDER THESE LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT SUITABLE. STEVEN AND MIA YUNG AT 1 2 5 3 0 FOR FALLS IN OPPOSITION. OUR CONCERNS OF PRIVACY AND TRAFFIC SAFETY HAVE NOT BEEN ACCEPTED TO ANY DEGREE OF THE THREE TO FOUR STORY APARTMENTS WILL OVERLOOK OUR BACKYARDS. ENJOY TODAY LIKELY SIGNIFICANTLY OUR HOME AND THE SCHOOL RUSH HOUR CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC ON SOUTH HOUSEMAN ROAD AND CHAMPION STATE ROAD MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY SEVEN THROUGH NINE AND TWO 30 THROUGH 6:30 PM ON ALL SCHOOL DAYS IS ALREADY A DANGEROUS DAILY HEADACHE. ANY TRAFFIC SURVEYS CONDUCTED FOR THIS PROJECT WHILE SCHOOLS WERE OFF WERE OUT OR RECESSED FOR SUMMER WEEKENDS OR HOLIDAYS OR IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS OF THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC SHOULD NOT BE USED BY THE CITY PLANNERS FOR THIS OR ANY OTHER PROJECT IN THIS AREA AS THEY DRAMATICALLY UNDERREPORT THE TRUE OVERWHELMING TRAFFIC VOLUMES EXPERIENCED DAILY WITH THE FULL PROPERTIES TUBING ELEMENTARY, FULL DUB, BEARS OF LEVIT COMPLEX AND SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL ALL WITHIN A MILE OF OUR HOMES ARE OPEN IN SESSION AND OPERATING. THANK YOU NAOMI CIAS AT 1 2 4 1 9 PALOMA TRAIL. I'M AN ORIGINAL FIELDSTONE HOMEOWNER AND I'M OPPOSED TO CHANGING THE ZONING TO ONE THAT ALLOWS MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING AND OR BUSINESSES. IT WILL BRING INCREASED TRAFFIC IN AN AREA THAT IS ALREADY OVERLOADED AND IT'S WHERE MANY PEOPLE WALK AND WALK AND CHILDREN CROSS TO CATCH THE SCHOOL BUS OR EVEN WALK TO SCHOOL. APARTMENTS WILL INCREASE NOISE AND DIMINISH PRIVACY ESPECIALLY TO THE HOMES CLOSEST TO THEM. I KNOW BECAUSE THE APARTMENTS ACROSS FIELDS DON ARE BEHIND MY HOUSE AND I CAN HEAR CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS OF THE RESIDENTS QUITE ROUTINELY. THERE ARE ALSO TIMES DURING THE DAY AND LATE INTO THE NIGHT WHEN MUSIC IS LOUD BE PLAYED WITH THAT REGARD TO OTHERS AND THEN THERE ARE THE ONES WHO ALWAYS SEEM TO BE PEERING INTO THE BACKYARD OR MAYBE INTO THE WINDOWS AND DOORS OF FIELD. STONEHILL. I WON'T OPEN MY CURTAIN DOOR [00:40:01] WINDOWS ANYMORE IN COOLER WEATHER AND LEAVES HAVE FALLEN BECAUSE OF THEIR DIRECT VIEW INTO MY HOUSE. ANY DEVELOPMENTS TO LAND TO BE DONE UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING? FELICIA GARCIA, NO ADDRESS GIVING. MY NAME IS FELICIA GARCIA AND I AND I'M ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE FIELDSTONE SUBDIVISION. I'M SENDING THIS EMAIL BECAUSE I'M A CONCERNED CITIZEN THAT CARES ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M SENDING THIS EMAIL BECAUSE I'M IN TOTAL OPPOSITION OF THE GREEN ZONING THIS AREA AND IF ADDING NEW PROPERTY TO THIS AREA, THIS WILL CREATE MORE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION TO THE AREA AND IT WILL BE MORE DANGEROUS FOR PEDESTRIANS IN CROSSING THESE BUSY STREETS. THIS WOULD NOT BE A GOOD MOVE ON THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO DO THIS. I HOPE OUR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERS ALL OPTIONS UNLESS CITIZENS THAT LIVE IN THE AREA VERNON VERNON AND CAROL WIMMER AT 1 2 5 0 2 RED ROCK OAKS AS RESIDENTS OF THE FIELD TO OWN SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON SOUTH HAMAN ROAD ADJACENT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNER OF SOUTH HAUSMAN AND CHAMPION GATE, WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY TO ALLOW THIS CONSTRUCTION. WE FEEL THAT ALLOWING THE BUILDING OF YET ANOTHER MULTI-STORY MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMPLEX WILL DECREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE TRAFFIC VOLUME ON SOUTH HOUSEMAN ROAD HAS INCREASED RECENT YEARS TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT AND AT MANY TIMES TODAY NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO LEAVE OUR SUBDIVISION ON THE ONLY EXIT ROAD. IT IS ALSO ALREADY DIFFICULT ENOUGH TO GET FROM SOUTH HOUSING ROAD ONTO EITHER CHAMPION STATE OR PER ROAD. THIS NOTICEABLY INCREASED WHEN THE MULTI-STORY MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS TO RECENTLY BUILT AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH HALMAN AND CHAMPIONS GATE. THE CHAMPIONS GATE PARK. ADDING THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC FROM THIS NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL FAMILIES WILL CERTAINLY EXACERBATE THIS PROBLEM SURROUNDING OUR SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION. WITH YET ANOTHER MULTI-STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH A SINGLE FAMILY ZONING OF THE REST OF THE AREA, WE ALREADY HAVE ONE THAT WE HAD ABSOLUTELY NO OPPORTUNITY TO OBJECT TO BEING BUILT. THIS PROPERTY SHOULD REMAIN ZONED AS SINGLE FAMILY AS IT IS TODAY. THE RESIDENCE OF THE HUNTER'S GREEN OF THE HUNTER'S BLAND HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATION. A NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISION TO FIELDSTONE HAVE DISCUSSED THE PROPOSED REZONING. AFTER FURTHER DISCUSSION, WE HAVE DECIDED TO JOIN THEM WITH FIELDSTONE IN OPPOSING TO REZONING OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAVE MET AND HAVE AND THOROUGHLY REFUSED PLAN AMENDMENT AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT REZONING REQUESTS OF MOSTLY MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESS BUSINESS. WE REVIEWED THE ORIGINAL FIGHT PLAN AND THE REVISED FIGHT PLAN, THE LAND USE AND THE REQUESTED REZONING. THE WRITTEN AND BYTE CONSENSUS OF THE ASSOCIATION IS STRONG OPPOSITION. THE PROJECT WILL MAKE TRAFFIC WORSE IN THE AREA INCREASING CONGESTION AND MAKE THE ROADWAYS MORE UNSAFE IN THE AREA. MANY STUDENTS IN RESIDENTS WALK AND BIKE IN THIS AREA AND STRUGGLE JUST TO GET FROM CHAMPION SKATE TO SOUTH HOUSING. WITH THE CURRENT TRAFFIC, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS TOO DENSE AND IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE AREA TOWERING OVER AT FOUR STORIES. TAKING THE RURAL FARM AND NATURAL VIEWS AWAY FROM RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, THE EXISTING SUBURBAN LANDES AND R SIX D RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY EDWARDS RECHARGE ZONE DISTRICTS ARE COMPLETELY ADEQUATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND WOULD ALLOW FOR AND WOULD ALLOW FOR CONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 50 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WHICH IS MORE REASONABLE THAN 234 4 STORY APARTMENTS AND PARTIAL BUILDINGS. WHILE WE KNOW THIS PROPERTY CAN EVENTUALLY BE DEVELOPED AS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING IT PRESENTLY ASSERT IS THE ONLY BUFFER THE NEIGHBORHOOD HASS NATATORIUM AND ATHLETIC COMPLEX. IT ALSO HAS A NUMBER OF OLD AND SIGNIFICANT OAK TREES. THIS THIS IS ALSO AN OLD EVER FAMILY PROPERTY THAT MAY HAVE HISTORICAL STRUCTURE SIGNIFICANCE. ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY IS NOT NEEDED IN THE AREA. THERE ARE ALREADY THREE LARGE FAMILY MULTI-HOUSING COMPLEXES IN THE AREA CHAMPIONS GATE, HIDDEN LAKE AND THE RIDGE AT BENDERA ROAD. THERE IS ALSO A MULTI-FAMILY PROJECT BEING DEVELOPED NEXT AS SINCE IN MIDDLE SCHOOL THE HUNTERS LAND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION DID NOT HAVE ANYTHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CHAMPION STATE APARTMENT ACROSS STREET FROM US BECAUSE THEY'VE BENEFITTED FROM THE SAN ANTONIO 2001 U D C CONVERSION RATE WHICH CHANGED THE PROPERTY FROM TEMPORARY R ONE TO C1 WE HAVE MIGUEL AND ESTHER NO ADDRESS GIVEN. I HEREBY SEND, THIS IS MY PETITION THAT WE ARE VOTING NO FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING OF SOUTH HOUSEMAN AND CHAMPIONS GATE ON NON PANDEMIC TIME. INCREASED TRAFFIC IS ALREADY AT AN ALL TIME HIGH TRAFFIC FROM BANDERA ROAD DIVERSE TO SOUTH HOUSEMAN ALREADY. PLUS THE EXISTING APARTMENTS HAS INCREASED TRAFFIC TO POINT OF RIDICULOUS BOTTLENECKING. WHAT LITTLE NATURE WE HAVE IN THIS AREA IS BEING DESTROYED. INSTEAD PUT SOME FORM OF RECREATIONAL AREAS SUCH AS TENNIS COURTS. THIS WOULD PRESERVE OUR TREASON LAND. IF YOU ARE GOING TO PUT RESIDENTS AND KEEP OUR YOUR COMMUNITY THAT YOU REPRESENT MANNY FOR LIFE AREA LOOKING NICER BY SELLING THIS AREA TO A HIGHER END HOME BUILDER. YOU BOUGHT THIS HOME 22 YEARS AGO BEING TOLD WE BOUGHT THIS HOME 22 YEARS AGO. BEING TOLD THAT THIS AREA WAS NOT ZONED FOR MULTI-FAMILY LIVING YOU HAVE ALREADY GONE AGAINST SO THE NOISE DISTURBANCE IS ALREADY HORRIBLE. WE, WHEN WE SIT IN OUR DESK IN OUR BACKYARD FACING THE EXISTING APARTMENTS BUILT THREE YEARS AGO IT WAS A NOISE POLLUTION FROM THE HIGHWAY, THE APARTMENTS AND THE TRAFFIC IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. WATER DRAINAGE IS ANOTHER CONCERN I HAVE BEEN ASKING AND EMAILING YOUR PREDECESSOR AND [00:45:01] YOU FOR OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS TO BE FIXED. I HAVE BEEN TOLD IT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE FIXED WHEN WHEN I DIE. JOANNA AND DAVID DO 1 2 5 2 6 RED ROCK OAK. WE RESIDE AT 1 2 5 2 6 RED ROCK OAK IN THE FIELDSTONE COMMUNITY AND HAVE LIVED HERE FOR SIX YEARS. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE PLAN OF THE PROPOSED RE FOR APARTMENTS AND RETAIL SPACE. WE JUST HAD A COMMUNITY GO UP RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IN THE LAST TWO YEARS. ADDING ANOTHER ONE SO CLOSE WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE AT THIS TIME. PLEASE SEE THIS POSTED ON HOW THIS PO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CONSIDERED IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. STEVEN COBB AT 1 2 5 1 5 RIO PALOMA. I'M REACHING OUT TO YOU TO EXPRESS MY FAMILY'S CONCERN OVER THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS THE PROPOSED SOUTH HOUSING AND CHAMPION SKATE. WE ARE HOMEOWNERS IN THE FIELD AND ASSOCIATION WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT. WE HAVE TWO SMALL CHILDREN AND HAVE ENJOYED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD QUITE A BIT. THE CHAMPION SKATE APARTMENTS BUILT A FEW YEARS AGO ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT HAS GREATLY INCREASED THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. AN ADDITIONAL APARTMENT COMPLEX WITH FURTHER INCREASED OUR SAFETY CONCERNS AS THE INTERSECTION CLOSE. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT EQUIPPED TO STOPLIGHT DURING NORMAL TRAFFIC LOAD. SOUTH HOUSING ROAD IS BACKED UP QUITE A BIT AS POSSIBLE. WEIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF SOUTH HOUSING AND CHAMPION SKATES TURN LEFT. ADDITIONALLY, THE INCREASED TRAFFIC PRESENTS CONCERNS ON A SOUTH HOUSING EUROS AND IT DOES NOT HAVE CYCLING LANES OR A SIDEWALK ON ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE ROAD TO PROTECT HOMEOWNERS TO UTILIZE SOUTH HOUSING ROAD FOR EXERCISE. INSTEAD YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET AT AN UNPROTECTED CROSSING IN ORDER TO USE A BIKE LANE OR SIDEWALK ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE ROAD. IT IS OUR STRONG PREFERENCE THAT THE ZONING FOR THIS FOR THIS AREA TO REMAIN RESIDENTIAL LAURA L ER AT 8 5 3 4 POUT CREEK. I HAVE BEEN READING ABOUT POSSIBLE ZONING CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDING A STRIP PLAZA IN THE AREA OF SOUTH H AND CHAMPION GATE. I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THIS AS IT WILL ONLY INCREASE THE TRAFFIC THAT HAS ALREADY GOTTEN VERY HEAVY ON SOUTH HOUSMAN AND THE NEGATIVE EFFECT ON THE VALLEY OF MY HOME. ALSO IT IS LOCATED OVER AN AREA OF THE AQUIFER THAT WHEN OUR DEVELOPMENT OF FIELDSTONE WAS CREATED IT WAS STATED THAT NO MORE WAS BUILT DUE TO IT BEING OVER THE AQUIFER. AS OF TODAY, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS BEEN BUILT AND OTHER SMALL SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPED AND TWO MORE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED AT THIS TIME. SOUTH HEALTHMAN HAS SEEN NO IMPROVEMENTS IN ALL THE 23 YEARS I LIVED IN FIELDSTONE. PLEASE MARK ME AS OFFICIALLY OPPOSED TO ZONING CHANGES AND MORE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT. MICHAEL MEDRANO AT 1 2 5 0 2 FOR AL. HELLO? HELLO, MY NAME'S MS. MICHAEL MADANO. I WAS JUST INFORMED BY OTHER RESIDENTS OF FIELDSTONE THAT A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS BEING PROPOSED TO GO UP AT SOUTH HOUSEMAN AND CHAMPIONS GATE. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OFFICIAL INFORMATION ABOUT THIS FROM C I A SERVICES OR ANY OTHER AGENCY BUT FIELD THIS WOULD IMPACT MY SUBDIVISION AND IMMEDIATE AREA DIRECTLY. I'M OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT SO IF I HAVE A VOICE IN THIS MATTER, PLEASE RECORD IT AS OPPOSED IF NEEDED. IF NEEDED YOU CAN REACH OUT TO ME FOR MY REASONING AT ANY TIME. DAVID AL AT 1 2 5 1 1 RIO PALOMA REGARDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AT HOUSEMAN CHAMPION STATE, THERE ARE SEVERAL REASONS THAT MY FAMILY AND MY NEIGHBORS AND FIELD CENTER OPPOSES MULTI-FAMILY MIXED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. FIRST, OUR PROPERTY VALUES DRAMATICALLY WILL DRAMATICALLY DECREASE. THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT ONLY SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE TRAFFIC ON A SMALL ROAD, WHICH IS THE ONLY ROAD IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. SECOND, THE ENORMITY OF THE COMPLEX AND HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING WILL NO DOUBT STAND WELL ABOVE THE TALL TREES IMPOSING ON EVERY HOMEOWNER'S PRIVACY. ALSO LAST YEAR A SIMILAR COMPLEX DEVELOPED ACROSS THE ONLY ROAD LEADING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT THERE HAS ALREADY NOTICEABLY INCREASED ALREADY. THE IMPACT ON PRIVACY FOR THAT PORTION OF NEIGHBORHOOD IS SIGNIFICANT AND CAN NEVER BE RESTORED. THE AMOUNT OF PEDESTRIANS WHO NOW WALK THE SMALL ROAD OF SOUTH HAUSMAN HAS INCREASED EXPONENTIALLY SINCE THE LAST MULTI-FAMILY MIXED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WAS COMPLETED. THIS IS DANGEROUS AND IT INCREASE ITS ALREADY LARGE AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC WITH NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS THAT THE HAMAN CHAMPIONS GATE INTERSECTION WILL CERTAINLY LEAD TO A MUCH MORE DANGEROUS AND CONGESTED INTERSECTION. IF HARDWORKING MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES CANNOT PREDICT OUR LARGEST INVESTMENTS AND ATTEMPT TO MAINTAIN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF PRIVACY. WHAT IS GOING ON IN DISTRICT EIGHT? COUNCILMAN MANNY RAN ON REDUCTION OF TRAFFIC. HERE'S A CHANCE TO LIVE UP TO YOUR WORD. I LISTENED TO YOU SPEAK AT THE I B E W LOCAL 60 MONTHLY MEETING WHEN YOU FIRST RAN FOR OFFICE AND I BELIEVE YOU MUST WANT WHAT YOU SAID AND ALSO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO PROTECT THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE HARDWORKING PEOPLE OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN YOUR DISTRICT HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO GROW AND MAINTAIN. DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE OF DISTRICT EIGHT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF GUSTONE. AMANDA VALE. ERICA HILLAM, NO ADDRESS GIVEN. GOOD MORNING. I HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THAT THERE IS A PROPOSITION TO REZONE THE LAND AT 1 2 4 0 0 SOUTH HAUSMAN ROAD AT THE CORNER OF CHAMPIONS GATE. AS A NEARBY HOMEOWNER, I AM STRONGLY OPPOSED TO REZONING THAT LAND FOR MULTIFAMILY MIXED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THAT CORNER WOULD GREATLY AFFECT THE HOME VALLEYS CONTINUE TO DISTURB TO DISRUPT THE ECOSYSTEM AND INCREASED TRAFFIC ON A VERY SMALL STREET WITH NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS. SINCE WE MOVED [00:50:01] INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD JUST THREE YEARS AGO, ONE HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT ACROSS THE STREET. NEW HOUSES ARE GOING IN DOWN THE ROAD AND SOUTH HOUSEMAN HAS CONTINUOUSLY BEEN UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO IMPROVE UTILITIES. SOUTH HOUSING GETS BACKED UP IN BOTH DIRECTIONS DURING MORNING COMMUTE TIMES DUE TO THE INCREASE IN RESIDENCE. WHILE THERE ARE CHANGING AND WHILE THERE ARE CHANGING THE ENTRANCE RAMP TO 1604, IT WON'T HELP US BECAUSE THE CURBS ENTRANCE TO THE RAMP CHAMPIONS GATE. THEREFORE WE'LL STILL HAVE TO SIT THROUGH TWO LIGHTS TO ENTER THE HIGHWAY. TRAFFIC ON THE 1604 ACCESS ROAD ALREADY TAKES 15 MINUTES TO ENTER THE HIGHWAY. ADDING MORE RESIDENTS ON THIS ALREADY SMALL STREET WILL ONLY INCREASE THAT ISSUE. IN ADDITION TO THE TRAFFIC CONCERN. SINCE THE APARTMENTS WERE BUILT ACROSS THE STREET, I HAVE HAD AN INFLUX OF BROWN RECLUSE SPIDERS IN MY YARD. I HAVE HAD THREE ANIMALS TREATED FOR SPIDER BITES DUE TO THIS. ASIDE FROM THE ASTRONOMICAL VET BUILD HAVE I HAVE ALSO SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF MONEY TREATING MY YARD AND HOME FOR BUGS. FURTHER DISRUPTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT SURROUNDING OUR AREA WILL CONTINUE TO EXACERBATE THIS ISSUE. AS A WILDLIFE WOULD NEED SOMEWHERE TO GO. I WOULD PREFER THEY DON'T TAKE SOLACE IN OUR HOMES. NO HOMEOWNER BUYS A HOME TO SEE THEIR PROPERTY VALUE DECREASE. I FEAR THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WILL PREVENT PROPERTY VALUES FROM INCREASING, ESPECIALLY GIVEN THAT THERE'S ALREADY A HUGE COMPLEX ACROSS THE ROAD. ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS I PURCHASED A HOME IN THIS AREA IS I LOVE TO SIT ON MY PATIO AND FALL EVENINGS AND HEAR THE MARCHING BANDS PLAYING AT AT FERRIS STADIUM. THERE IS NOTHING QUITE LIKE THE DRILL OF HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. IT BRINGS BEST MEMORIES OF MY SON PLAYING AND SOME VERY GOOD TIMES. I AM CERTAIN THAT THE COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION WOULD PREVENT THE SOUND FROM REACHING ME AND THE SCHEME OF THINGS THAT IS A VERY SMALL REASON TO STOP CONSTRUCTION BUT FOR ME IT'S HUGE. MY SINCERE HOPE IS THAT YOU'LL STAND WITH HOMEOWNERS AND OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THIS PLAN. MARTIN BREYERS 1 2 5 2 6 RIO PALOMA. I'M A RESIDENT OF THE FIELDSTONE ASSOCIATION AND AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED. PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE NORTH OF THE SUBDIVISION. MY RESIDENTS WOULD BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED AS ANY DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE IMPOSING ON ACCESS VIEWS AND PRIVACY FROM THE REAR OF MY PROPERTY. I MOVED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD 12 YEARS AGO BECAUSE OF THE PRIVACY IT DEPORTED ME. WE ALREADY HAVE ISSUES WITH BULK TRASH ITEMS BEING DUMP BEHIND OUR FENCES AND THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WOULD ONLY MAKE THINGS WORSE. WILL THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO COLLECT OR REMOVE THE EXCESS GARBAGE THAT OBVIOUSLY WILL COME WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT ORAL FIELDSTONE RESIDENCE BUT THE BILL TO HAVE IT REMOVED? YES, THE CITY MANAGER HAS INFORMED US THAT WE WILL GET FINED FOR TRASH THAT IS DUMPED BEHIND OUR PROPERTY BY SOMEONE ELSE. WE HAVE HAD TO PERSONALLY REMOVE IT AT OUR OWN EXPENSE IN THE PAST. THERE WILL BE MANY MORE QUESTIONS TO THIS PROJECT MOVE FORWARD. MARCUS LUNA. 1 2 5 0 2 PALOMA TRAIL. I OPPOSE THE ZONING OF DCA PROPERTY ID 6 5 5 7 4 7 6 5 5 7 4 5 AND 1 1 5 1 9 8 0 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. THE AREA AROUND CHAMPIONS LANE SOUTH HOUSEMAN IS ALREADY TOO CONGESTED. THE TRAFFIC FLOW AT THIS LOCATION IS SO CONGESTED AT TIME. THE TRAFFIC IS AT A COMPLETE STOP BECAUSE THE STREET LANE WAS NOT INTENDED TO HAVE MISSED TRAFFIC. ADDING MORE HUMAN AND AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC TO THIS AREA WILL ONLY CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS THAN HELP THE AREA. BAD IDEA. SINCE THE ADDITION OF CHAMPIONS GATE APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS HOUSE HOUSEMAN, THE CRIME RATE HAS INCREASED. I'M NOW A VICTIM AND MY NEIGHBOR'S REPORTED THE PERSON WALK ACROSS HOUSE HOUSEMAN FROM CHAMPIONS GAY APARTMENTS TO OUR STREET WEARING A BLACK HOODIE. CRIME HAS INCREASED AND WITH THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, CRIME WILL CONTINUE TO INCREASE FOR OUR SUBDIVISION. A DEFINITE INCREASE TO POLLUTION FOR THE AREA FROM HUMANS AND AUTOMOBILES. ERICA CAN TWO AT 1 2 5 3 5 RED ROCK OAK I AM WRITING IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER RECEIVED FROM C I A SERVICES DATED APRIL 16TH, 2020 WITH A DELIVERED DATE OF SATURDAY APRIL 18TH NOTIFYING A FEW FIELDSTONE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. I AM A RESIDENT OF THE FIELDSTONE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY ADDRESS BACKED UP DIRECTLY TO THIS AREA. I'M WRITING TO OPPOSE THE BUILDING OF A COMPLEX AT THIS LOCATION FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. THIS COMPLEX WILL UNDOUBTEDLY DOUBLED THE THROUGHPUT TRAFFIC OF IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. THE MAIN REASON I PURCHASED A HOME IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS BECAUSE THERE WAS LESS TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. THE TRAFFIC WAS RECENTLY EXACERBATED BY A NEW, A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX BOTH ACROSS THE STREET. I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE ARE AT LEAST FOUR OTHER PROPERTY DEVELOPMENTS BEING BUILT WITHIN THE TWO MILE RADIUS. MY SUBDIVISION THREE ON HOUSEMAN ALONE, INCLUDING THIS ONE WOULD ONLY COMPOUND THE TRAFFIC ISSUE IN OUR AREA. INCREASED TRAFFIC AND POPULATION WILL BRING AN INCREASE IN PRIME FURTHER DEVALUING THE PROPERTIES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. A FOUR STORY BUILDING WILL REMOVE ALL PRIVACY FROM MY PROPERTY AND LOWER THE PROPERTY RESALE VALUE SIGNIFICANTLY A DECREASE IN PRIVACY. REMOVE ANY ALLOWABLE INSTANCE FOR MY CHILDREN TO PLAN MY BACKYARD WITHOUT PARENTAL GUIDANCE BECAUSE THERE WILL BE NO CONTROL OVER THE MULTIPLE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THEY'LL BE EXPOSED TO WITH LOSS OF PRIVACY AND IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A HOUSE DIRECTLY BEHIND MINE, BUT TO HAVE AN ENTIRE COMPLEX FACING MY BACKYARD IS ENTIRELY ANOTHER PRIVACY AND SAFETY ISSUE. NOT JUST MYSELF BUT MY CHILDREN. I CANNOT SPEAK FOR EVERYONE ELSE, BUT HAD I KNOWN THERE WAS EVEN THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE FIELD WOULD BE USED FOR THIS TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT, [00:55:01] I CERTAINLY WOULD'VE NEVER BOUGHT HERE. I AM RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT THIS COMPLEX NOT TO BE BUILT BEHIND MY HOUSE AND BE RELOCATED. I ALSO WANT TO MAKE NOTE OF HOW INCONSIDERATE AND UNPROFESSIONAL TO NOTIFYING OF A FEW FIELDS STONE RESIDENTS WAS LEAST RESPONSE IS AN EXCUSABLE FOR A MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT IS PAID TO ASSIST THE COMMUNITY AND I BELIEVE IT HAS FAILED. DO SO ESPECIALLY ON THIS CURRENT SITUATION. BRENDA WA PEPPA 1 2 5 2 2. PALOMA TRAIL. I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 23 YEARS. PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE IT. ZONING THAT SHOULD BE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THIS PROJECT WILL MOVE THE TRAFFIC FORCE IN THE AREA. WE CANNOT MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN ALREADY FROM SOUTH HWEN AND CHAMPION STATE NO. TWO REZONING. THIS IS A LETTER SENT BY FOUR PEOPLE, DANIELLE CURTIS AT 1 2 5 1 8 PALOMA TRAIL, REBECCA BLACK STONE, DEANNA ROBERTSON CURTIS AND BRIAN CURTIS. I'M A OWNER HOMEOWNER IN THE FIELDSTONE SUBDIVISION WHICH WILL BE IMPACTED IF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO OUR SUBDIVISION IS REZONED. I WANT TO STATE THAT I'M OPPOSED TO THE REZONING OF THIS PROPERTY. THIS PROPERTY GETS REZONED AS A DEVELOPER OPPOSING THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA WILL BE GREATLY INCREASED, MAKING IT UNSAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS IN THE AREA THAT ARE EXERCISING OR TRAVELING TO THE SCHOOL NAMED MEDIA AREA, AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL. WHILE THE DEVELOPER IS STATING THAT HE HAS ADDED TWO ENTRY AND EXITS ON CHAMPIONS GATE, THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE AND EXIT IS LOCATED ON HOUSEMAN DIRECTLY ACROSS ANOTHER LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC WITH THE NUMBER OF UNITS PLANNED ON COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IS TOO GREAT FOR THE SUBURBAN AREA. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS MADE CONCESSIONS THAT THOSE CONCESSIONS WERE FOR THE BENEFIT OF PAUSE AND HAS NOT MADE CONCESSIONS FOR THE FIELD FENCE SUBDIVISION. I UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAND WILL BE DEVELOPED, HOWEVER, I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD REMAIN UNDER ITS CURRENT ZONING AND BE DEVELOPED IN INTO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. JANELLE GUZMAN AT 5 6 0 3 CROSS ONE. MY HOUSEHOLD OPPOSES THE REZONING. BUILDING ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX ACROSS THE STREET FROM A PRE-EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX WILL ONLY CAUSE MORE TRAFFIC NIGHTMARES DURING RUSH HOURS ON THE SINGLE LANE SOUTH H ROAD. WE REALIZE THIS LAND WILL BE DEVELOPED AT SOME POINT, BUT DO NOT AGREE THAT ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX IS THE RIGHT DEVELOPMENT FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE WOULD MUCH PREFER A TOWN HOME OR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ON THIS LAND. THE DEVELOPER IS ASKING TO BE REZONED THAT THEY CAN PACK IN MORE PEOPLE TO THIS SPACE AND THEREFORE MAKE MORE MONEY, BUT IT IS AT THE COST OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAS TO LIVE WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC ON THEIR DAILY COMMUTE. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THE REZONING OF 1 2 4 0 0 SOUTH HOUSE IN ROAD. THIS IS FROM RUDY EVA JR. FROM BEXAR COUNTY RIVER. MISS H O A PRESIDENT, JUST INFORMING YOU THAT THE RIVER MISS H O A OPPOSES THE DEVELOPMENT. YOU WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE AREA RESIDENTIAL. THIS NEXT ONE IS FROM THE HILLS OF RIVER MISS HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION BOARD OF DIRECTORS. THIS EMAIL IS IN RESPONSE TO THE REZONING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING FOR THE TRACK FROM R SIX TO MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED USE COMMERCIAL. OUR PRIMARY REASON FOR OUR OPPOSITION IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE PROJECTED TRAFFIC BASED ON THE ESTIMATED TRIP GENERATION FOR THE OPPOSED DEVELOPMENT WHICH WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA NEAR THREE NORTHSIDE I S D SCHOOLS BY ALMOST 3000 DAILY TRIPS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT IS LOCATED HALF A BLOCK TO THE SOUTH FROM SIMPSON MIDDLE SCHOOL AND IS ALSO WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO NEARBY BRANDES HIGH SCHOOL AND STUBING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS LOCATED JUST 3000 FEET TO SOUTH ON SOUTH HOUSING ROAD. BASED ON THE LATEST PLANS THAT WE HAVE SEEN. THE CURRENT ZONING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ASSUMED 41 HOMES FOR THIS 8.26 ACRE TRACK, 30 1:00 AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS, 40 1:00 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS, 387 DAILY TRIPS. PROPOSED ZONING MULTI-FAMILY AND MAKES USE COMMERCIAL ASSUMED 300 APARTMENTS AND 19,000 SQUARE FOOT RETAIL 1:56 AM PEAK HOUR TRIPS, 2:41 PM PEAK HOUR TRIPS 2,913 DAILY TRIPS. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE SIZE OF THE PROPOSED RETAIL DEVELOPMENT WAS NOT INCLUDED ON THE PLAN THAT WE SAW. SO BASED ON THE 16 RETAIL STORES, WE ESTIMATED THE RETAIL CENTER AS CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 19,000 SQUARE FEET. THE LOCAL STREETS IN THIS AREA INCLUDING CHAMPIONS GATE, SOUTH HOUSE AND THE SKY HOG DRIVE, IN ADDITION TO THE NORMAL SCHOOL TRAFFIC ARE ALREADY EXPERIENCING INCREASED TRAFFIC VOLUMES DUE TO SEVERAL RECENT AND CURRENT DEVELOPMENTS. CHAMPION SKATE APARTMENTS OPENED WITHIN THE PAST 18 MONTHS AND LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE 1 2 4 0 0 SOUTH HOUSE DEVELOPMENT STADIUM. POINT SUBDIVISION ON SKYHAWK DRIVE CONSISTING OF STUDENT HOUSING DUPLEXES. THE STREETS AND UTILITIES ARE COMPLETE AND CONSTRUCTION WILL REPORTEDLY START THIS SUMMER. TWO ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON SOUTH HOUSING ROAD SOUTH OF THE SITE. WE BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A REASON WHY THE CITY OWNED THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SOME ADJACENT PROPERTIES ARE SIX RESIDENTIAL TIM ROAD. NO ADDRESS GIVEN. PLEASE DON'T LET THIS PLAN GO THROUGH. THIS IS [01:00:01] A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE TOO MUCH TRAFFIC AS IT IS. THANK YOU. THIS NEXT ONE IS FROM JACQUELINE SHAER AT 8 2 1 9 RUSTIC TERRACE. I AM WRITING BECAUSE I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THE FOUR STORY MULTI-FAMILY 234, 500 PLUS PARKING AND C TWO MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AS IT WOULD BE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE N I S D SWIM STADIUM AND FOOTBALL STADIUM. I'M CONCERNED FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. THERE ARE CURRENTLY FIVE DEVELOPMENTS UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA DURING NORMAL WORKING HOURS. THE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY BACKED UP WITH TRAFFIC HEADED TO AND FROM WORK AND THE THREE NEARBY SCHOOLS. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT EXPECTED TO CATER TO 20 TO 30 YEAR OLDS WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC DRAMATICALLY DURING PEAK HOURS. THERE ARE ALREADY CARS RACING DOWN CHAMPIONS GATE BEHIND MY HOME. MORE DEVELOPMENT WOULD INCREASE NOISE POLLUTION. BOTH SOUTH HAUSMAN AND KYLE STEEL ARE SINGLE LANE ROAD. THE NEXT CAPACITY DURING NON COVID TIMES. THIS DEVELOPMENT IS NOT THE BEST, IS NOT IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE SCHOOLS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU, OMAR AND MARIA GUDO AT 1 2 5 3 5 FOR FALL. WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THIS PROJECT. WE LIVE WITHIN THE 200 FOOT AREA AFFECTED BY THIS PROPOSED PROJECT. WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE PROJECT WILL MAKE TRAFFIC WORSE IN THE AREA, INCREASE CONGESTION, AND MAKE BUSY ROADS MORE UNSAFE. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO HELP US PROTECT OUR SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD FROM INAPPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT. PLEASE RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THIS PLAN, AMENDMENT AND REZONING CHANGE. WE HAVE VOICEMAILS NEXT, OH WAIT, THERE. OH, HOLD ON A SECOND. THERE'S TWO MORE, SORRY. ALL RIGHT, SORRY. UH, WE HAVE VOICEMAILS NEXT. DAISY GARZA, 85 38 PALOMA CREEK. UM, TWO TEN FOUR ONE FIVE FOUR FOUR EIGHT FIVE. ITEM NUMBER TWO, CASE Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 4 2. IT'S A ZONING COMMISSION MEETING, AND I HAVE A FEW ITEMS OR I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S A SECONDARY ACCESS ISSUE. ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT. THIS COULD BE BECOME A SAFETY ISSUE. PEOPLE WERE ALREADY CUTTING THROUGH WHEN ACCESS ROAD IS BACKED UP DUE TO MORNING WITH SHOWER TRAFFIC AND NOW CONSTRUCTION. THE CUT THROUGH IS TO COW SEAL TO GET TO 1604. INCREASED CONGESTION AND DELAYS, WHICH MAY CAUSE MORE ACCIDENTS AND BEING SAFER. PEDESTRIANS GOING TO SPORTS COMPLEX AND LOCAL RESIDENTS AS WELL, DOING THEIR DAILY RUNS OR WALKS AS IT IS WHEN THERE'S GAMES. THEY SOMETIMES CLOSE THE ROAD OFF. COULD ALSO BE AN ISSUE TO STUDENTS WALKING HOME FROM SCHOOL BECAUSE THERE'S THE MIDDLE SCHOOL IS DOWN THE STREET. THE HIGH SCHOOL SCHOOL BUSES ALSO GO THROUGH THE AREA TO GET TO ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL. SO IT WOULD BE A BIG TRAFFIC ISSUE. AND THEN ON A NORMAL DAY, THE AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC WOULD BE 20 1002 37 VEHICLES PER DAY. AND THEN LET'S SAY ON A BUS OR HIGHER DENSITY DAY, THE AVERAGE TRAFFIC WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 2,270 VEHICLES PER DAY. SO THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING THROUGH THERE. UM, THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU AND HAVE A GREAT DAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS JIMMY DAVIS AND I'VE BEEN A FIELDSTONE RESIDENT FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS AND RESIDE WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. MY CONCERN REGARDING THIS PROPOSAL IS THE IMPACT WE'LL HAVE ON OUR POPULATION DENSITY. OVER THE LAST 12 YEARS, I'VE OBSERVED SIGNIFICANT GROWTH IN OUR IMMEDIATE AREA. THE VILLAGE RENTAL HOMES ON SOUTH HAMU, ALONG WITH CHAMPION GATE APARTMENTS, HAVE INCREASED OUR POPULATION DENSITY RESULTING IN INCREASED TRAFFIC CONGESTION. IN ADDITION, DUE TO THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF STING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND BRANDEIS HIGH SCHOOL, MANY OF OUR AREA OF CHILDREN WALKED TO SCHOOL, INCREASED TRAFFIC WITH MORE KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL AS A RECIPE FOR A TRAGIC OUTCOME THAT ALL OF OUR HOMEOWNERS, DEVELOPERS AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS SHOULD STRIVE TO INVERT. WE ARE ALREADY AT AN DESIRABLE CAPACITY, WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE DEVELOPMENTS, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, AND FLIGHTS SUCH AS DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FROM BRANDEIS. DEVELOPMENT ACROSS STUDENT AND DEVELOPMENT ACROSS FROM DUMP THIRD STADIUM NEXT TO THE CURRENT PROPOSAL ADDS UP TO 234 UNITS ALONG WITH THEIR RETAIL CENTER, WHICH WILL EXPONENTIALLY ADVERSELY IMPACT [01:05:01] THEIR POPULATION DENSITY, THEREFORE, INCREASING EXISTING TRAFFIC CONCERNS AND EXPOSING AREA CHILDREN TO UNSAFE CONDITIONS AS THEY WALK TO SCHOOL. WHILE I'M AGAINST THE PROPOSAL AS CURRENTLY DRAFTED, I AM OPEN TO DISCUSSION ON HOW WE CAN DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY IN A THOUGHTFUL MANNER THAT PROVIDES SAFE LIVING CONDITIONS FOR ALL AREA RESIDENTS. MY ADDRESS IS ONE TWO FIVE THREE ONE. RED ROCK OAK, PHONE NUMBER (210) 722-5134. ITEM NUMBER TWO, KC 20 21 0 7 0 0 0 4 2. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, CHAIR, THAT WAS THE END OF THE VOICEMAIL. WE HAVE ONE MORE LETTER TO READ JUST FOR THE RECORD. GO AHEAD, MERCEDES. WE HAVE AMANDA AL AT 1 2 5 1 1 RIO. IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FIELD STONE, THAT THERE ARE PLANS TO REZONE AND DEVELOP AN APARTMENT COMPLEX, A CORNER OF SOUTH HOUSING AND CHAMPION STATE AS A HOMEOWNER IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR NINE YEARS, I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS PLAN. WHEN WE PURCHASED THIS HOME, WE VALUED A SMALL, QUIET NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE COUNTRY ROAD. OVER THE LAST NINE YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN SEVERAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS SPRING UP ALONG SOUTH HOUSEMAN AND A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX OPENED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THE INCREASED TRAFFIC TO THIS AREA HAS FORCED ROAD EXPANSION TO SOUTH HOUSEMAN. WE DO NOT NEED OR WANT ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NEXT DOOR. ASIDE FROM THE ADDITIONAL CAR TRAFFIC THAT WOULD COME WITH AN APARTMENT COMPLEX PROPOSED PLAN HAS THREE AND FOUR STORY UNITS, WHICH WOULD TOWER OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATING THE PRIVACY OF HALF OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. NO ONE WANTS TO WALK INTO THEIR BACKYARD AND SEE TWO OR THREE STORIES OF APARTMENTS THAT CAN SEE STRAIGHT INTO THEIR YARDS AND HOMES. MORE PEOPLE ALSO MEANS MORE NOISE. OUR LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS ALWAYS BEEN QUIET, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL AT THE STADIUM. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE THAT WALK AND EXERCISE TO NORTH SIDE STADIUM ACROSS THE STREET. MORE PEOPLE ALSO MEANS MORE FOOT TRAFFIC AND MORE PEOPLE CROSSING THAT STREET CHAMPIONS GATE, WHICH WILL INEV, WHICH WILL INEVITABLY LEAD TO SOME DANGER. THE PRIVACY ISSUE ALONE WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT OUR HOME VALUE. NEW HOMEOWNERS ARE NOT LOOKING TO BUY A HOUSE THAT HAS APARTMENTS IN THE BACKYARD. I'M SURE THIS IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE INVESTORS AND DEVELOPERS. THIS IS NOT A GOOD DEAL FOR THE EXISTING NEIGHBORING HOMEOWNERS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE DEVELOPED, BUT A THREE TO FOUR STORY APARTMENT COMPLEX IS NOT THE RIGHT ANSWER. PLEASE RECONSIDER THE ZONING CHANGE. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS SORT OF PROPERTY NEXT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. AND FINALLY, CHAIR, WE HAVE, UH, LIVE COLLAR, UM, MR. UH, JOSE ROBLES, ARE YOU THERE? YES, MA'AM. AND IF YOU MAY, ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. I'D LIKE TO BEGIN. NO, I'D LIKE I, I'D LIKE TO BEGIN BEFORE, UH, BEFORE I NEED THE EXHIBITS TO BE DISPLAYED SO I CAN START MY PRESENTATION. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. IT'S ON, THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT MY EXHIBIT. UH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT EXHIBIT ONE, PLEASE. ALRIGHT. IT'S ON, REMEMBER THERE'S A DELAY ONLINE SO WE HAVE IT UP. SO GO AHEAD. I, I AM LOOKING AT THE EXHIBIT. THAT ONE'S NOT MINE. I APOLOGIZE. I DID SPEAK WITH MICHAEL PEPPER REGARDING EXHIBIT ONE THROUGH FIVE. I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE ONE THAT YOU HAVE THERE IN THE LETTER. THAT'S NOT THE ONE THAT I NEED TO PRESENT. I DO APOLOGIZE. UM, UH, ARE THEY MAPS AERIAL MAPS? NO, NO. THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THAT. THE LETTER THAT YOU HAVE THERE. IF YOU SCROLL DOWN, THERE'S, UH, YOU EVENTUALLY COME ACROSS ONE THAT WOULD BEGIN AT EXHIBIT ONE, IF YOU MAY PLEASE. THERE, THAT'S, IS THAT EXHIBIT ONE. OKAY. SO REMEMBER WHAT YOU SEE ONLINE IS A TIME DELAY. OKAY. SO DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU SEE ONLINE. WE ALREADY HAVE IT UP ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. GO AHEAD. SURE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. SO GOOD AFTERNOON. AS YOU MAY BE AWARE BY CONCERNS, THAT INSTANCE OF MULTIPLE PETITIONS AGAINST THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNING FACTORS IS THE ALREADY HEAVY TRAFFIC AREA COMPROMISING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. UH, EXHIBIT ONE. TO BEST ILLUSTRATE WHAT WE ENDEAR ARE USING GOOGLE ANALYTICS AND HISTORICAL DATA, UH, WE CHOSE A TYPICAL MORNING, PEAK HOUR, PRE COVID TIME ON FEBRUARY, 2020. THIS EXHIBIT WILL SHOW YOU IN YELLOW THE AREAS IN WHICH YOU'D COME ACROSS BACKING UP OF TRAFFIC. SO MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO EXIT OUR SUBDIVISION ALONG WITH OUR NEIGHBORING APARTMENT COMPLEX AND HUNTERS GLEN SUBDIVISION, THE HOUSEMAN IS ALREADY AT CAPACITY AND ESPECIALLY THEIR INGRESS AND EGRESS ACROSS THE APARTMENT CONFLICTS WOULD BE OF CONFLICT. SO EXHIBIT TWO, PLEASE. EXHIBIT TWO. BASICALLY, UM, YOU'RE GONNA SEE IT'S SHOWING YOU A WORST CASE SCENARIO OF THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS THAT WE ALREADY ENDEAR HERE IN THE AREA, IF YOU WILL. IF YOU CAN PLEASE EXHIBIT THREE PLEASE. EXHIBIT THREE. IT SHOWS YOU ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTING FACTORS, UH, WITH A NEW RAMP REVERSAL TEXTILE PROJECT, WHICH OPENED THIS WEEK. THEIR NEW EXIT IS ILLUSTRATED IN GREEN, CONTRIBUTING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AT THIS TIME TO CHAMPIONS GATE EXHIBIT FOUR, PLEASE. EXHIBIT FOUR ILLUSTRATES IN RED MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA HOMES, UH, UH, BETWEEN FIVE AND 33 ACRES AND A SINGLE FAMILY. UH, THEY'RE ALSO, UH, DEVELOPED THERE AS WELL. A SOUTH HOUSEMAN IS AN UP AND COMING DEVELOPING STREET. AND WHAT YOU SEE [01:10:01] AND WHITE IS AN UP AND COMING DEVELOPMENT AT NINE ACRES FROM HOMESTEADING AT 300,000. EXHIBIT FIVE, PLEASE. UH, SO THIS IS NATIONALLY USED TRAFFIC TRIP GENERATION MANUAL EXHIBIT BY ALL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT ILLUSTRATES THE DIFFERENCE IN TRAFFIC BETWEEN THE ZONING, UH, ASSUMING 52 HOMES AT POINT 18 ACRES, AND WITH THEIR PROPOSED MF 25 ON THE RIGHT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BELOW TABLE IN YELLOW, YOU'LL SEE THE PERCENT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC GENERATED IN COMPARISON. SO IT'S AN APPROXIMATELY 211% OF DAILY TRAFFIC GENERATED. WE DO NOT OPPOSE THE DEVELOPMENT. WE SIMPLY SAY DEVELOP THE PROPERTY FOR THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING PRESCRIBED FOR THE AREA SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO BE A LESSER DENSITY THAT THE PROPOSED MF 25 WITH THE C TWO THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. UH, WE'RE CONCERNED WITH C TWO ALSO POSSIBLY BRINGING THE CELLS OF ALCOHOL. AND I WANT TO, UH, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT IT WAS AMENDED FROM MF 33 TO 25 SIMPLY TO COMPLY WITH, WITH THE U D C. AND THEN A DEVELOPER MENTIONED MF 25 WOULD BE THEIR LOWEST THEY CAN GO TO MAKE THEIR INVESTMENT WORTH IT. SO WE THOUGHT IN OUR THAT WAS IT. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, YES. UM, SO, UH, SORRY, LET ME JUST CHECK, UH, REAL QUICK, IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, UH, ARE THERE ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CURRENT CALLER ON THE LINE? UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, TO THE CALLER ON YOUR TRIP VOLUME EXHIBIT? IS THAT, ARE YOU AN ENGINEER? IS THAT, OR WAS THAT DONE BY AN ENGINEER? I DON'T SEE AN ENGINEER SEAL ON THAT. THIS IS, I AM AN ENGINEER. UM, THIS IS, UH, USING DATA FROM THE, THE I T E, UH, TRIP GENERATION MANUAL. IS IT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THIS PROPOSED SITE? IT IS NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT. UH, HOWEVER, UH, IT'S STILL, IT'LL BE AT A DOUBLE, UH, THE DOUBLE THE AMOUNT AS IF IT WAS TO BE RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? ALL THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. STEPH. WAS THAT THE LAST PUBLIC INPUT? THAT WAS THE LAST, LAST LIVE CALLER, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TIME, UH, FOR RESPONSE? UH, YES MA'AM. THIS IS JAMES MCKNIGHT. UH, I'M GONNA SAY ONE THING AND THEN PASS IT ON TO RAJIV. UH, I JUST WANNA SAY, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE RESIDENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT TRAFFIC. YES. ANY DEVELOPMENT WHERE THERE WAS NONE IN ITS IN ITS PLACE IS AN INCREASE. AND, AND THAT IS FRUSTRATING. WE GET THAT AND THAT'S PART OF GROWING PAINS OF THIS POPULATION INCREASE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING. STOPPING DEVELOPMENT NEEDED DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT HAS BEEN PLANNED IS NOT THE ANSWER. UH, IT'S HOW WE MITIGATE THOSE IMPACTS THAT MATTERS. AND, AND THAT IS WHAT WE HAVE REALLY TRIED TO DO. SO IS NOT ASKING US TO PUT UP A MASONRY EIGHT FOOT FENCE OR MOVE THE BUILDING BACK OR REDUCE THE DENSITY AT ALL. THAT WAS ALL MITIGATION THAT WE DID IN RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'LL LET RAJE TAKE IT FROM HERE. THANK YOU, JAMES. UH, IF, IF THE PRESENTATION'S AVAILABLE, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT PRESENTATION UP, PAGE 23. IF NOT, THEN I CAN JUST TALK WITHOUT IT. UH, BUT I'LL START, UM, UH, ANYWAYS, UH, WHILE SHIFTING UP, PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THE PRESENTATION GETS THERE. SO, UH, I I, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT TRAFFIC AND JUST TO PUT YOUR MIND AT EASE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, AS JAMES SAID, WE HAVE THREE ENTRANCES. AND THOSE THREE ENTRANCES WERE DESIGNED IN THE WAY THAT THEY WOULD DISPERSE TRAFFIC, UH, IN THIS DEVELOPMENT. MOST OF THE OTHER, UH, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND OUR SINGLE ENTRANCE. WE'VE ALSO BEEN COORDINATING AND WORKING WITH, UH, CHRISTINA DELACRUZ AT D S D TRAFFIC ENGINEER ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO. UH, AT HER SUGGESTION, WE'RE WILLING TO MOVE THE SOUTH HOUSEMAN ENTRANCE FURTHER DOWN SO IT'S NOT DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM CHAMPION GATE. WE, WE THINK THAT MAKES SENSE AND WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. UH, WE ARE ALSO COORDINATING WITH THE, UH, N I S C WHO HAS A VERY LARGE COMPLEX IN THE NORTH. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CALLS WITH THEM, MEETINGS WITH THEM. THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH US, AND THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND AND LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN TRANSPARENT WITH THEM. AND, UH, AND WE'VE ALSO TALKED, UH, WITH CHRISTINA ABOUT THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, WHICH IS WHAT I HEARD CONSISTENTLY FROM THE NEIGHBORS. THAT, UH, THEY WOULD LIKE A, A, A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING. AND I'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH CHRISTINA AND SHE BELIEVES THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ACCOMMODATE ONE ON CHAMPIONS GATE ALONG THE LENGTH OF OUR, OUR PROPERTY. UM, SO TRAFFIC WISE, I FEEL LIKE BY HAVING THREE ENTRANCES, WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY, UH, GOING TO, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, DISPERSE THAT TRAFFIC AND MAKE IT BETTER. PEDESTRIAN CROSSING WILL HELP THE SAFETY ISSUE. IF YOU LOOK, IF YOU HAVE THE SLIDE UP ON 23, I, I, I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE WORKED SO HARD AND, AND WITH SAWS AND, AND N I S D AND THE H O A TO MAKE CONCESSIONS. SO IT'S REALLY NOT GOOD TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE NOT MADE CONCESSIONS. IF [01:15:01] YOU SEE, WE'VE GONE DOWN ON OUR ZONING FROM, FROM 290 UNITS DOWN TO 2 34. WE'VE GONE DOWN IN THE NUMBER OF BUILDINGS. WE HAVE 10 BUILDINGS THAT WERE THREE OR FOUR STORY EACH. AND WE'VE GONE DOWN TO THREE BUILDINGS WITH FOUR STORY. WE'VE GONE DOWN ON OUR IMPERVIOUS COVER FROM 70 PLUS PERCENT DOWN TO 65% IN RETURN, BEING SENSITIVE TO ENVIRONMENTAL, UH, UH, SAVING OF TREES AS WELL AS W P A P AND, AND, UH, WATER QUALITY ISSUES. UH, WE HAVE INCREASED THE BUFFER, AS JAMES SAID, SAW, DIDN'T ASK US TO MOVE THE BUILDINGS OR PUT A BUFFER, THEY JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT IMPERVIOUS COVER. AND SO WE'VE INCREASED THAT BUFFER TO, UH, MINIMUM OF 106 FEET AND MAJORITY OF THEM 176 FEET. SO FRANKLY, EVEN IN THE CITY ORDINANCE, WHENEVER THERE'S NORMALLY A SETBACK OF LET'S SAY, 20 FEET FROM A PROPERTY LINE, UH, CITY U D C ALLOWS THAT IF FOR EVERY ONE FOOT BUFFER, THAT ADDITIONAL BUFFER THAT YOU PROVIDE, YOU CAN GO UP TWO FEET IN HEIGHT. SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR NUMBERS, IF WE HAVE GIVE PROVIDED AN ADDITIONAL EXTRA 50 FEET OF 56 FEET OF BUFFER, THEN WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED, UH, THEN THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO GO UP 112 FEET. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ME, ALCOHOL SALES, SOMEBODY BROUGHT UP, WE HAVE ALREADY AGREED THAT WE CAN DO AN OVERLAY TO RESTRICT ALCOHOL SALES. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO. THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR, OUR, UH, PLAN HERE. UM, AND IN TERMS OF TRANSITION AND LOOKING AROUND THE AREA NORTH, NORTH OF US IS THIS C THREE EQUIVALENT INSTITUTIONAL QUALITY 60 FOOT PRODUCT. ON THE LEFT OF US IS, UH, MF 33. AND ON THE RIGHT OF US IS, IS DETENTION. SO IN OUR OPINION, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, OUR ORIGINAL REQUEST THAT MF 33 REALLY FIT IN WITH M X D, BUT WE'VE LOWERED IT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE DISCUSSIONS. YOU KNOW, THE, THE POINT OF NUMBER OF UNITS, IF YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, ALL THE UNITS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST ARE NORTH OF TWO 90. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO INCREASE NUMBERS HERE. WE'VE ALSO NO PATIO. 1, 1, 1 MORE MINUTE, SIR. AND THEN ADD THAT'LL YOU'LL, IF YOU DON'T MIND. OKAY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . SO ESSENTIALLY WE'RE DOING NO PATIOS, NO, NO, UH, WINDOWS IN THAT, IN THAT DIRECTION. THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT WERE DONE FOR THE H O A. THEY ASKED FOR DOWN DUCT TRACK COMPLIANT LIGHTING. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. THEY ASKED FOR EIGHT FOOT FENCE. WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT. SO MY POINT IS, WE HAVE TRIED TO WORK HARD IN GOOD FAITH TO, UH, REALLY MAKE THIS WORK AS A WIN-WIN. AND, UH, WE WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN, IN OUR APPLICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. OH, CHAIR, UH, BEFORE WE, UH, DO A QUESTIONS, UH, WE REALIZED THAT WE FAILED TO READ THE, UH, HO A'S LETTER INTO THE RECORD. SO WE'RE GONNA DO THAT RIGHT NOW. YES. UH, MICHAEL, GO AHEAD AND PUT IT ON THE SCREEN. FABULOUS. OKAY. CAN YOU ZOOM IN A BIT? OKAY. UH, SO THE DEVELOPER AND THE REPRESENTATIVE WILL SPEND AN HOUR AND A HALF TELLING YOU THAT THEY SIMPLY NEED A LITTLE MORE DENSITY, THAT THEY'RE CREATING TRANSITION, AND WILL SAY THAT AFTER THE MEETING WITH US, THAT, UH, THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY'VE MADE MANY CONCESSIONS. AND RAJEEV WILL DAZZLE YOU WITH HIS MANY VAST PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR AREA. THE FACT IS THE DENSITY WAS REDUCED FROM THREE 10 TO 2 34 BECAUSE IT WAS TOO MUCH FOR THE AREA. WHEN THEY COULDN'T USE THE DENSITY THEY WANTED, THEY RAISED THE BUILDING HEIGHT FROM THREE STORIES TO FOUR STORIES. THIS IS BEYOND THE HIGH ALLOWED BY MF 25. WE SEE EXHIBIT FIVE FOR TRAFFIC IMPACT BETWEEN EXISTING R SIX VERSUS MF 25 0. ADDITIONALLY, THEY WERE PROPOSING OVER 70% IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT SAWS ONLY PERMITTED 65%. SO THEY HAD TO ADJUST THEIR PLAN AND REDUCE PARKING. AND BY DOING SO, INADVERTENTLY SAVE MORE TREES. THEY'LL SAY THAT, THAT THEY DID THIS ALL OUT OF WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE ONLY MET TWICE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND THE FIELDSTONE RESIDENTS, ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORING SUBDIVISIONS CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN AND EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO THIS SUB, TO THIS PROJECT. 'CAUSE THERE ARE MANY MULTIPLE CONCERNS BY US, PLEASE. HE REDUCED ATTACHED EMAIL TO OUR ASSOCIATION ILLUSTRATING THREATENING TENNIS COURTS AND OTHER AGGRESSIVE SCENARIOS IF HIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T GO IN. THERE'S ALSO THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERN OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF THE PROPOSED D TWO LAND USE, WHICH MAY WARRANT THE SALES OF ALCOHOL WITHIN THE NEIGHBORING HOMES AND SCHOOLS REGION. THERE'S TOO MUCH DENSITY, TOO MUCH HEIGHT, NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. IT'LL GENERATE MORE TRAFFIC RESULTING IN MORE TRAFFIC ISSUES. THE PROJECT WILL MAKE TRAFFIC WORSE IN THE AREA, INCREASE CONGESTION, AND MAKE THE ALREADY CONGESTED ROAD ROADWAYS MORE UNSAFE. CURRENTLY, THERE IS A FA FAMILY LEVEL SERVICE AT THE SOUTH HOUSEMAN AT CHAMPION GATE INTERSECTION APPROACH AS THERE IS A 1500 FOOT OF OF VEHICLES BACKUP OBSTRUCTING OUR SUBDIVISION'S ENTRANCE SECTION TO EXIT. DURING THE A M P TOWER AS VEHICLES ON SOUTH HOUSEMAN APPROACH, CHAMPIONS GATE SOUTH HOUSEMAN HAS REACHED MAXIMUM CAPACITY AS IT CANNOT BE FURTHER WIDE. CURRENT TECH STOP, UH, RAMP REVERSAL PROJECTS ON, UH, NORTH LOOP 1604 WEST IN THE CHAMPIONS GATE AREA WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT [01:20:01] THE INFO OF TRAFFIC THROUGH THE CHAMPION GATE. THE NEW EASTBOUND NORTH LOOP 1604 EXIT RAMP WILL NOW BE BEFORE CHAMPION SKATE, WHICH WILL RESULT IN ALLOWING THE EXITING VEHICLES FROM THE EASTBOUND NORTH LOOP 1604 EXIT RAMP TO TURN RIGHT AND USE CHAMPION SKATE TO BETTER ILLUSTRATE THE EXPERIENCE THE COMMUNITY ENDURES DURING HIGH TRAFFIC TIMES. PLEASE SEE EXHIBIT ONE FOR DATA ILLUSTRATION OF SOUTH HAMAN, THE CHAMPION SKATE APPROACH VEHICLES. BACK UP IN THE, AND EXHIBIT TWO, ILLUSTRATING WORST CASE SCENARIO FOR SATURATION OF EXISTING ROADWAY RATE CAPACITY IN OUR REGION. EXHIBIT THREE SHOWS THE CURRENT RAMP REVERSALS OF 1604 CHAMPION GATE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT INGRESS EGRESS LOCATION IS IN CONFLICT AS THEIR PROPOSED ENTRANCE IS RIGHT ACROSS THE EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX ON A ROAD THAT CANNOT BE FURTHER WIDENED AND HAS REACHED ITS MAXIMUM CAPACITY. JEOPARDIZING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY DRAINAGE IS ALSO A CONCERN FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS THE, I BELIEVE THAT'S TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THANK YOU. I GET TO BE THE FIRST COMMISSIONER WITH A TIME LIMIT . OKAY. MY FIRST QUESTION IS FOR STAFF. UM, IN YOUR STAFF REPORT, YOU NOTE UNDER CONSISTENCY THAT M X D DOES NOT FIT UNDER, UH, THE CURRENT FUTURE LAND USE PLAN SUBURBAN TIER. IS THAT M X D IN GENERAL OR JUST M X D WITH THE PARTICULAR MF 25 USE THAT THEY ARE REQUESTING? IT IS BECAUSE THE M X D ALLOWS UP TO MF 33, UM, SUBURBAN TIER ONLY ALLOWS UP TO MF 18. SO BECAUSE THEY'RE REQUESTING MF 25, IT DOES TRIGGER THE PLAN AMENDMENT. OKAY. BUT ONLY THE MX D USES HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN. THAT'S ACCORDING TO CODE. OKAY. THANK YOU UHHUH. UM, AND THEN I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND, UM, AGAIN, IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR, HEY, I DON'T HAVE A TIMER UP. UH, IF YOU COULD KEEP YOUR ANSWERS FAIRLY SHORT. UM, SURE. OKAY. UH, FIRST OF ALL, CAN YOU, UH, JUST CLARIFY SOMETHING, THIS WILL BE MY LONGEST QUESTION I GUESS, BUT AFTER YOU HAD THE INITIAL MEETINGS THAT WERE OPEN TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD OF FIELDSTONE AND I GUESS TO OTHER PEOPLE TOO, AND THEN, UH, YOU HEARD SOME THINGS AND YOU MADE SOME CHANGES. HAVE, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AGAIN OR HAVE THEY ONLY SEEN YOUR, YOUR UPDATED PLANS AT, AT PLANNING COMMISSION? UM, UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER RERA TO FURTHER QUESTIONS. SO WE, UH, WE HAD TWO CALLS AFTER THE CALLS. WE HAVE TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THE H O A THROUGH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY. UH, I'VE SENT FOUR OR FIVE EMAILS, UH, REQUESTING, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION OR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. BUT THEY HAVE NOT AGREED TO ANY DISCUSSION, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, WE, UH, ALSO SPECIFICALLY ASKED FOR CONTACT INFORMATION FOR 16 HOMES THAT ARE THE CLOSEST TO OUR DEVELOPMENT. AND, UH, WE WERE NOT PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION. SO WE WENT TO BCAT AND GOT THEIR INFORMATION. WE WENT TO WHITE PAGES AND GOT THEIR PHONE NUMBERS. WE CALLED EVERY ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, AND ONLY ONE OF THEM WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH WHO AGREED TO TALK WITH ME ON JULY 4TH. AND I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH HER. BUT WHAT I LEARNED FROM THAT DISCUSSION WAS THAT THEY WERE, THE RESIDENTS WERE NOT BEING, WERE NOT BEING ENCOURAGED BY THE BOARD TO TALK WITH US ANYMORE. AND THAT, UH, THE BOARD WAS GOING TO PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE ACTION. AND MY REPEATED REQUEST TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION HAS NOT BEEN HONORED. FOR EXAMPLE, MOVING THE ENTRANCE ON SOUTH HAUSMAN FOR THE SOUTH. OKAY. THAT'S ALL, THAT'S RE THAT'S ALL I, MY TIME IS TICKING AWAY HERE. UM, SO LET ME MOVE ON TO MY NEXT QUESTION THAT WAS ANSWERED. UM, NOW ONE OF THE RESIDENTS TALKED ABOUT REMOVING ALL OF THE TREES THAT ARE IN BETWEEN YOUR PROJECT AND THE NEIGHBORS. IS THAT ACCURATE OR WILL THE TREES REMAIN? CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM ACCURATE THE TREES? THAT IS, THAT IS NOT ACCURATE. OKAY. TREES WILL REMAIN. UM, I THINK YOU ALLUDED TO THIS WHEN YOU SAID THE 16 RESIDENTS, BUT CAN YOU CONFIRM HOW MANY PROPERTIES ACTUALLY SHARE A PROPERTY LINE WITH YOUR PROPERTY OR THE PROPERTY YOU HOPE TO BUY? ACTUALLY, ACTUALLY THERE'S ZERO BECAUSE THERE'S, UH, A 30 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE FIELDSTONE H O A PROPERTY. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY NO DIRECT RESIDENT THAT IS, UH, THAT HAS A COMMON PROPERTY LINE WITH US. OKAY. BUT, OKAY, I GOT THAT. THANK YOU. UM, BUT THEN, SO, BUT THERE ARE ABOUT 16 THAT IF IT, IF IT WEREN'T FOR THAT, I MEAN THEY EFFECTIVELY SHARE A BOUNDARY WITH YOU. IT'S NOT 14 OR THURSDAY. OKAY. OKAY. UM, AND CAN YOU HAVE THE NUMBER, THAT'S FINE. 'CAUSE YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE NUMBER RIGHT YET, BUT IN TERMS OF THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, UH, THAT WOULD BE ANTICIPATED FROM WHAT WOULD BE THERE IF AS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH 65 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO IN TERMS OF THE DAILY TRAFFIC COUNT? UM, I, I DO NOT HAVE THAT NUMBER. UH, UH, OFF THE TOP. UH, I HAVE SHARED THAT, UH, THAT, UH, DISCUSSION WITH CHRISTINA DE LA CRUZ AT [01:25:01] D S D. AND, UH, MY, MY DISCUSSION WITH HER DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE NEEDING OF A LIGHT OR ANYTHING. AND THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THREE ENTRANCES, UH, IT FEELS LIKE IT WOULD BE DISPERSED MAYBE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT THE SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE IF THEY WERE ONLY PUT, UH, ENGINES ON SOUTH SOUTH HAMAN. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I THINK MY LAST QUESTION, YOU ALREADY SAID THIS, BUT JUST, UM, SO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE OF, OF WHERE I'M GOING. UM, CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT, THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED, UM, POTENTIALLY, UH, LOWERING THE DENSITY ON THE NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS, UM, AND THAT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THAT. AND THEN ALSO JUST CONFIRM THAT YOU HAVE AGREED THAT WE WOULD ADD THE NA IF IN FACT THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED. UH, WE HAVE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT REDUCING SOME OF THE UNITS. I PROPOSED TO YOU THAT THE UNITS THAT ARE THE CLOSEST TO, UH, H O A, THAT 106 FEET, WE CAN DROP FEET, WE CAN DROP THOSE DOWN TO TWO STORY FROM FOUR, UH, THAT WOULD LOSE SOME UNITS. AND THEN, UH, SO WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. AND SECONDLY, UH, WITH THE ALCOHOL, UH, WE CAN, WE ARE AGREEABLE TO PUTTING THAT OVERLAY ON THIS. SO NO ALCOHOL PILL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS A N I S D REQUIREMENT AS WELL. AND WE'RE GOOD WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM, FROM BOTH SIDES. UH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT IS, THAT IS ALL MY QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YOU'RE MUTED. YES. SORRY. UM, SO THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROMERO. YOU ANSWERED A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS WITH, UH, YOUR COMMENTS, BUT I DID HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAID YOU WERE WILLING TO REDUCE FROM FOUR STORIES TO TWO STORIES. I DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT. CAN YOU RE-EXPLAIN THAT, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY. SO, UH, THE, THE CONCERN IS THAT, UH, THE UNITS THAT ARE THE CLOSEST, UH, TO, UH, THE H O A THAT ARE STILL 106 FEET AWAY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDINGS, THE WAY THEY'RE TURNED, MOST OF THE UNITS ARE 176 FEET AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE H OF PROPERTY. THERE IS TWO TO THE THREE TURNS IN THE BUILDING. AND, AND THERE'S TWO OF THEM THAT COME TO 106 FEET. SO WHAT I HAD PROPOSED WAS, I'M HAPPY TO REMOVE THE TWO STORY END UNITS ON THAT, ON THAT, UH, END POINT. SO IT'D BE REDUCING, YOU KNOW, FOUR, SIX UNITS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, UH, THAT WOULD MAKE THE, SO NOT ONLY ARE YOU 106 FEET AWAY, BUT THOSE TWO, YOU KNOW, REMOVING FOUR OR SIX OF THOSE UNITS WOULD GET FURTHER DOWN IN, IN HEIGHT CLOSEST TO THE H O A IF THAT'S THEIR CONCERN, KNOWING THAT IN GENERAL, IF IT'S DEVELOPED AS A SINGLE FAMILY, THE, THE, THEY WILL BE 50 FEET AWAY, NOT 160 FEET AWAY. OKAY. BUT AGAIN, SO HOW MANY TOTAL UNITS WOULD YOU BE REDUCING? SO WE WOULD REDUCE, UH, UH, FOUR TO SIX UNITS. IT WOULD BE DOWN TO ABOUT TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY, TWO TWENTY EIGHT TO TWO 30. OKAY. AND, UM, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OR THE H O A TO COME UP WITH A NUMBER. I JUST, UH, IT, IT, IT'S HARD TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITHOUT SOMEBODY SITTING ON THE OTHER SIDE. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU. UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF. COULD, COULD YOU, UH, POST THE PHOTO OF ALL OF THE, UH, NOTICES MAILED AND THOSE RESPONSES? WHO WAS OPPOSED? WHO WAS FOR NO, WE DON'T, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE A MAP THAT SHOWS CHECKS OR XS, IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. YES. YOU DON'T HAVE THAT? NO, NO. SINCE, UH, THEY CAN SUBMIT, UM, OPPOSITION UP UNTIL 10 O'CLOCK THE DAY OF IT, IT'S HARD TO, WE'RE ALREADY PREPARING THE INFORMATION THE DAY BEFORE, SO IT'S HARD TO SHOW ALL THOSE CHECKS AND EXITS. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, WAIT, LEMME JUST MAKE SURE IF I HAVE QUESTIONS. UM, SO AGAIN, UH, NEXT TO THE, THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT NEXT TO THE SUBDIVISION THERE, UM, WHAT TYPE OF BUFFER AND, UH, TELL ME ABOUT HOW MANY, UH, TREES AGAIN, UH, SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING AWAY TREES, AND HOW BIG OF A BUFFER WILL THERE BE NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD? UH, SO THERE'S ALREADY A 30 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT AND MM-HMM. . AND SO FROM OUR BUILDING STAND, THE [01:30:01] CLOSEST BUILDING WOULD BE 106 FEET FROM THE, UH, H O A, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PROPERTY. MM-HMM. . AND IN TERMS OF, UH, TREES, WE HAVE SURVEYED ALL THE TREES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. AND, UH, WE HAD SHARED THIS WITH THE H O A THAT WE CAN DO ISLANDS IN THAT PARKING AREA TO SAVE THESE TREES, UH, THAT ARE CLOSE BY. OKAY. NOW, UH, MY, UH, NEXT QUESTION IS, SO IS THAT, ARE THE, WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THE BACKYARD AND LACK OF PRIVACY, IS THAT THE SAME SUBDIVISION OR IS THAT A DIFFERENT, UH, SUBDIVISION? THAT'S THE SAME ONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. AND, UM, CAN, UH, VERY QUICKLY, CAN YOU JUST REVIEW WITH ME THE CO THE CONCESSIONS THAT WERE MADE, UM, FOR SAWS VERSUS THE CONCESSIONS THAT WERE MADE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD? SO FOR SAWS, THE CONCESSION THAT WE MADE WAS TO REDUCE THE IMPERVIOUS COVER TO 65% MM-HMM. , UH, WHICH ALLOWED US TO SAVE TREES, BUT SAWS DIDN'T SAY WHERE TO SAVE THE TREES. SO WE THOUGHT THAT SAVING THE TREES ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE WOULD BE, UH, VERY HELPFUL. IT HELPS, UH, H O A AND STILL ALLOWS US TO COMPLY WITH SIZE REQUIREMENTS. REDUCING THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 2 92, 2 34 WAS NOT A SIZE REQUIREMENT. UH, THE BUILDING, UH, BUILDINGS GOING FROM 10 TO FOUR, UH, WAS NOT A SIZE REQUIREMENT AS MUCH AS IT WAS FROM AN IMPERVIOUS COVER STANDPOINT. UH, THE, THE BUFFERS WAS NOT A SIZE REQUIREMENT. AND WHERE TO SAVE THE TREES WAS NOT A SIZE REQUIREMENT. DOCK STRIKE COMPLIANT WAS NOT A SIZE REQUIREMENT. EIGHT FOOT FENCE WAS NOT A SIZE REQUIREMENT. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. I APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. SURE. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER AND THE SIDE AND THE SIDEWALK AND PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO DO ARE NOTS REQUIREMENTS EITHER. OKAY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, I THINK THE, UM, COMPLAINT WAS THOSE ALONG PALOMA TRAIL THAT BACK UP TO HOUSEMAN AND BASE THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ACROSS THE STREET. BUT I FIND THAT CURIOUS BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE A, A ROW OF TREES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THEIR FENCES, UM, FOR BUFFER AS WELL. BUT ON THE PROPERTIES THAT BASE, THESE ARE VERY LARGE PIE SHAPE, ALMOST A QUARTER OF AN ACRE, NOT QUITE FROM 9,000 SOMETHING SQUARE FEET. UM, BUT EVEN THE DISTANCE FROM THE HOUSE TO THE END OF THEIR PROPERTY, UH, ALL THOSE CUL-DE-SACS THAT YOU SEE, YOU HAVE ALMOST 20 FEET, THEN 30 FEET IS THE DRAINAGE DITCH. THEN WHEN IT HITS YOUR PROPERTY LINE TO THE APPLICANT, IT BEGINS A PARKING LOT BEFORE IT HITS A BUILDING. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. CORRECT. SO HOW THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO, SO I'M THINKING THOSE WHO ARE MOST AFFECTED, THE BUFFERS IS, LET'S SAY 20 FEET OF THEIR OWN YARD, 30 FEET. THAT'S 50 FEET SO FAR. SO FROM YOUR PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDING ITSELF, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE FOOTAGE THERE? SO THERE'S AN, SO THE TOTAL, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BACK OF THEIR, UH, BACKYARD, IT'S ALMOST 126 FEET. OH, IT IS? 'CAUSE FROM THEIR PROPERTY LINE, WE'RE PROVIDING 106 FEET TO OUR BUILDING. OH, I SEE. SO IT'S 126 FROM THEIR BACK, FROM THEIR BACK OF THEIR BUILDING. RIGHT. AND THEN MOST OF THE BUILDINGS THAT WE HAVE IS 176 FEET, SO YOU ADD ANOTHER 20. SO MOST OF THEM ARE 190 FEET AWAY, 95 FEET AWAY FROM THEIR BACK, FROM THE BACK OF THEIR BUILDING. AND WHAT'S THE SIZE FENCE THAT THEY HAVE? UH, THOSE NEIGHBORS ON FIELDSTONE ALONG THAT PROPERTY LINE? ARE THOSE SIX EIGHT FOOT? THEY'RE WOOD FENCE. IT'S A WOOD FENCE. IF, IF MY PRESENTATION IS UP, YOU CAN LOOK AT PAGE 25. OKAY. YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THAT PAGE 25 SHOWS THE WOOD FENCE THAT IS PART OF FIELDSTONE ON THE RIGHT. AND THIS IS A RENDERING BY THE WAY, OF SHOWING WHAT THE PROPERTY WOULD, WHAT OUR DEVELOPMENT WOULD LOOK LIKE BASED ON THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED. OKAY. AND THEN HOW MANY EXITS THEN ARE COMING OUT ONTO HAMAN? YOU SAID THREE. UM, THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY ONE ON HAUSMAN AND HOW MANY AND THE OTHER TWO ARE ON CHAMPIONS GATE. OKAY. SO HOW MANY CARS WOULD THAT BE FACILITATING ON THAT END? I MEAN, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE WHOLE APARTMENT COMPLEX BECAUSE YOU OFFER TWO OTHER ENTRANCE EXITS, SO, AND THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEY'RE, OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER D S B MEAN TO, IN OUR VIEW, UH, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN MULTIFAMILY, IF THEY EVER WANNA MAKE A LEFT TURN ON CHAMPIONS GATE, THEY WILL GO ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK ENTRANCE AND THEN TURN, BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY A MEDIAN CUT. AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING INTO THE COMPLEX, IN OUR VIEW, [01:35:01] ARE GOING TO COME DOWN CHAMPIONS GATE AND TURN RIGHT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT RATHER THAN TURNING RIGHT ON ON SOUTH HOUSMAN AND THEN LEFT INTO THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO. SO IN OUR MIND, THOSE TWO ENTRANCES WILL BE USED A LOT MORE, FRANKLY, I THINK ANYBODY REASONABLE WOULD SEE THAT. IF, IF THERE'S A LONG LINE ON SOUTH HAUSMAN AND THAT YOU'RE A MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENT, WHY WOULD YOU EXIT ON SOUTH HAUSMAN AND TRY TO ENTER INTO A LINE THAT'S THERE? YOU HAVE TWO OTHER ENTRANCES. USE THOSE. BOTH OF OUR ENTRANCES ON CHAMPIONS GATE WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO GO RIGHT ON CHAMPIONS GATE AND THEN ON, YOU KNOW, AND THEN YOU CAN DO A TURNAROUND OR FROM THE BACK ENTRANCE YOU CAN MAKE A LEFT DIRECTLY. SO IN OUR VIEW, THOSE ENTRANCES AND EXITS WILL GET USED MORE, UH, JUST BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL TAKE THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE RATHER THAN TRYING TO FIGHT IT OUT ON SOUTH THOUSAND. AND HOW, AND CHAMPIONS GATE IS HOW MANY LANES? IT'S FOUR LANES WITH A MEDIAN. OH, IT'S A FOUR LANE, OKAY. VERSUS IIC. YES. YES. THAT MAKES COMPLETE SENSE THERE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THANK YOU. UM, SORRY. IF YOU HEAR MEOWING, UH, THERE'S A CAT IN THE ROOM. UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UH, WITH THE CURRENT REQUEST, UM, IT WOULD BE FOR 235 UNITS OF MULTIFAMILY. SO WHAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN TO ALLOW ME TO MAKE A MOTION FOR A RECOMMENDATION FOR 169 UNITS IF THAT EQUALS, UH, MULTIFAMILY USE IS UP TO 18 UNITS PER ACRE? CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT, UH, THEN, UH, YOUR MOTION WOULD BE FOR M X D WITH THE, UH, C TWO USES AND MULTIFAMILY USES UP TO 18 UNITS PER ACRE TO SHOW ON THE SITE PLAN. BUT I MEANT MORE, UM, WHAT DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE TO SAY ON THE RECORD RIGHT NOW? OH, IF, IF THEY'RE, UM, WILLING TO AMEND TO THE M MS 18, THEN THEY JUST NEED TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH A, UH, A RESUBMITTED SITE PLAN TO SHOW THAT RESTRICTION. AND SO WE WOULD, WE COULD STILL VOTE ON IT. THE RESUBMITTED SITE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO COME IN JUST PRIOR TO THE COUNCIL VOTE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. BECAUSE IT'S LESS DENSITY, SO YES. OKAY. AND THEN SO AT THE SAME TIME, UH, THEY COULD AGREE TO THE NA AS WELL. UM, RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, SO NXT IS THE BASE, UM, AND IT ALLOWS ALL COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS AND ALL MF DISTRICTS, BUT THEIR SITE PLAN SHOWS HOW THEY'RE RESTRICTING IT. AND, AND NA IS NOT APPLICABLE IN THIS. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO SOME SORT OF DEEDED RESTRICTION. OKAY. THEY'D HAVE TO DO A DEEDED RESTRICTION FOR THE NA, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? THAT'S CORRECT, CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, I CAN ADD THAT IN MY MOTION, BUT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE THAT REQUEST. CORRECT? UH, YOU COULD MAKE THAT, UH, WELL, IT'S NOT A CONDITIONAL TYPE ZONING, UH, BUT IF THEY ARE, UH, REQUESTING A, A EIGHT FOOT FENCE AS PART OF THE REZONING, THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO DO THAT. UH, AND IT'S TO ALLOW UP TO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE. OKAY. SO I GUESS NOW I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT IF THEY WOULD GO ON RECORD AS BEING WILLING TO ACCEPT, UH, THAT LOWER DENSITY OF 169 UNITS. UM, COMMISSIONER RAM, I, I'M NOT SURE THAT, I THINK THE ALCOHOL PART I CAN ACCEPT FOR SURE. I THINK THE CONCESSIONS ABOUT THAT WE'VE MADE WITH FENCING AND, AND, UH, TREE SAVE AND ALL THAT, THEY'RE TIED TO THE CURRENT PLAN AS IT'S SHOWN. UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO REDUCE IT DOWN FROM 2 34. UH, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CURRENT SITE PLAN, I, I'M NOT SURE THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO DO 1 16 9 UNITS AND MAKE IT WORK THE WAY IT'S SHOWN RIGHT NOW. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU IF, IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, OUR REQUEST IS THE, THE PLAN AMENDMENT TO GENERAL URBAN TIER WITH M X V. UH, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, RESTRICT LESS THAN MF 25, BUT HIGHER THAN M F 18, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON THAT. AND WITH THE H O A NO, I MEAN, I, IF THAT'S DOABLE, WE'VE, NO, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ON THIS AND I THOUGHT THAT WE HAD BEEN WORKING TOWARDS THE MF 18 EQUIVALENT. SO I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION. AND IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AGREE, UH, TO THOSE UNITS THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED, THEN, UH, I DON'T REALLY KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. WHAT, UH, AND, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, THE, THE, THE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD MOVE FORWARD IN THIS CASE PLAN AMENDMENT IS COMPLETELY TO MF 18 USES. [01:40:01] I'M JUST, PLEASE BE AWARE, I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME. WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PLAN AMENDMENT HERE. I AM SIMPLY ASKING IF YOU WILL AGREE TO THIS, CHANGE THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MY MOTION WILL BE. IF THERE IS TO BE, IF I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION AND APPROVAL, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU WOULD ACCEPT THAT OR NOT, AND THEN I WILL MAKE A DIFFERENT MOTION. OKAY. YEAH, I, I, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH MS 18. THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS KEN. UH, RAJIV. I THINK HER OTHER MOTION IS GONNA BE TO DENY IF WE DON'T AGREE. RIGHT? NO, I UNDERSTAND. SO, UH, THAT'S FINE. . OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S MY ONLY QUESTION. AND CHAIR APPOINT ORDER? YES. UM, SEEMS A LITTLE BIT OUT OF, OF THE NORM. SO I SUPPOSE THE COMMISSIONER IS NEGOTIATING WITH, UH, THE APPLICANT AND SO WE'RE SUPPOSED TO OBSERVE THIS NEGOTIATING. WHY DOESN'T, WHAT'S WRONG WITH GOING TO A CONTINUANCE SO THEY CAN NEGOTIATE IT JUST RIGHT? NO, I THINK, WE'LL, I'M, WE'LL, I'M SORRY. THAT QUESTION WAS TO ME. OH, OKAY. THEY'RE GONNA ACCEPT. OKAY. SO WE'LL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. UM, IF THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT IN A WORK SESSION. IF WE COULD PLEASE STAFF WE'LL, UM, HAVE THAT DISCUSSION NEXT WORK SESSION TO CL CLARIFY IF WE EVER ENCOUNTER THAT SITUATION AGAIN. BUT SINCE THE APPLICANT IS READY TO, UM, ACCEPT THAT WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON WITH THIS MEETING. OKAY. UM, SO THAT IS, UH, NOW ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL, I THINK, UM, CAN YOU, OKAY, , WERE YOU RECOGNIZING ME? YEAH. YES, I RECOGNIZED YOU. I, UM, I WAS ASKING STAFF WHAT I HAD TO, I KNOW WHAT MOTION I WANNA MAKE. I HAVE SOME ROOM TO NEGOTIATE WITHIN BY MYSELF. I'M NOT NEGOTIATING WITH ANYBODY. I HAVE ROOM TO MAKE A CHANGE WITH WITHIN M X D. IT WAS MY IMPRESSION AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING STAFF TO CONFIRM. AND THEY CONFIRMED THAT I COULD MAKE THAT MOTION IF THE APPLICANT AGREED TO THAT AT THE DAIS. OKAY. AND THAT'S HOW THAT PROCEEDED. I WANNA BE REAL CLEAR ON THAT. AND IF STAFF OR LEGAL HAS ANY CONCERN WITH WHAT I JUST DID, I THINK THEY SHOULD BRING IT UP RIGHT NOW. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT THIS JUST HANGING OUT THERE. I ASKED A QUESTION AND STAFF ANSWERED IT. OKAY. STAFF ARE LEGAL. YEAH, THERE'S NO CONCERN. WE'RE GOOD. WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. ALL RIGHT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. SO I THINK THERE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSION UNDER M X D THAT WE THOUGHT WE COULD APPLY AN NA TO THE C TWO USE. UM, MY QUESTION IS, WHEN THIS GETS TO COUNCIL, I KNOW THEY CAN REQUIRE THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND WHAT HAVE YOU. CAN COUNSEL REQUIRE A NON-ALCOHOL, A NON-ALCOHOL APPLICATION TO THIS? NO. NO. THIS IS AN MX D BASED DISTRICT. UM, SO THERE'S NO NA THAT'S APPLICABLE TO THIS. SO JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT, THAT NON ALCOHOL SALES WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE THROUGH A DEEDED RESTRICTION HAS THE ABILITY TO ALLOW FOR UP TO AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE AS PART OF THE REZONING. OKAY. SO LEMME ASK THE QUESTION ANOTHER WAY. GIVEN THE PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PROPERTY WITH AN AUDITORIUM AND WHAT HAVE YOU, DOES THAT FALL WITHIN THE 300 FEET? IS THERE, WOULD THERE BE, UM, A PROHIBITION FROM THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE SCHOOL PROPERTY? UM, IT'S, UH, SO BASED ON THE ALCOHOL SALES, IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR A T A B C LICENSE, WE WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT FROM THE SCHOOL IF SCHOOL ACTIVITIES ARE PERFORMED AT THAT SITE. IF THERE ARE, THEN IT IS CONSIDERED A SCHOOL AND THE 300 FOOT PROPERTY LINE, PROPERTY LINE WOULD KICK IN. OKAY. CAN YOU TELL ME IF THAT PROPERTY LINE IS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE ZONING PROPERTY? OKAY, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP RIGHT NOW, YOU'LL SEE THE 200 FOOT CIRCLE MM-HMM. , THAT'S 208, AND IT FALLS WITHIN THE PROPERTY. OKAY. SO MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED A, UH, LICENSE BY T A B C BECAUSE OF THAT? NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT. THEY, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A VARIANCE PROCESS THROUGH COUNSEL IN ORDER TO, UH, BE ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL. SO COUNSEL WOULD HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER THAT COULD BE [01:45:01] ALLOWED AT SOME POINT. RIGHT. AT SOME POINT. BUT NOT PART OF THE ZONING CASE. IT'S A SEPARATE PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL FOR, UH, CLARIFYING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. UM, SO I'M GONNA TALK FAST. UM, OKAY. UH, SO, UH, I'VE LIVED, I I USED TO LIVE IN THIS PART OF DISTRICT EIGHT FOR, FOR A VERY LONG TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY NEW DEVELOPMENT ADDS TRAFFIC. MY DEVELOPMENT ADDED TRAFFIC FIELDS DON'T ADD TRAFFIC. THEY ALL ADD TRAFFIC. UM, LEAVING THIS AS IS WOULD MEAN NO NEW TRAFFIC. UM, BUT, AND MAYBE THE ALLOWED USE WOULD BRING LESS TRAFFIC, UH, THAN THE USE THEY'RE ASKING FOR. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT OUTWEIGHS THE NEED TO HAVE THE APPROPRIATE ZONING HERE. I DON'T USUALLY WATCH PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT I WATCHED PLANNING COMMISSION LAST WEEK AND PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF WERE VERY, VERY CLEARLY EXPLAINED WHY THE EXISTING LAND USE AND ZONING ARE INAPPROPRIATE HERE. UM, IT'S, AND THAT'S KIND OF RARE FOR STAFF TO SAY THE REQUESTED CHANGE WOULD BE JUST AS APPROPRIATE AS WHAT WE HAVE NOW. THEY'RE NOT SAYING THAT, THEY'RE SAYING WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW IS INAPPROPRIATE. AND I THINK KAT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT. UH, ACTUALLY AT PLANNING COMMISSION LAST TIME, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THIS REMAINED OPEN SPACE. THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. UH, AND R SIX JUST DOES NOT MAKE SENSE HERE. IF THIS WAS DEVELOPED AS R SIX, THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE RIGHT NEXT TO A MAJOR CIVIC CENTER. THIS IS NOT JUST A SMALL BALL FIELD IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN THERE, BUT I, I IMAGINE MOST OF YOU, IF YOU HAD BEEN THERE, THAT'S SOMEHOW IMPORTANT. THIS IS TO OUR CITY. THIS IS A FULL NATATORIUM AND ATHLETIC AND ATHLETIC CENTER. IT IS A DAUNTING BUILDING. IT IS IN A VERY IMPORTANT PIECE OF DISTRICT EIGHT AND R SIX. DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPED ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD FUNCTION AS A BUFFER BETWEEN FIELDSTONE AND THE COMPLEX. AND THAT'S NOT OKAY BECAUSE THERE WOULD BE NO BUFFER FOR THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RIGHT NEXT TO THE COMPLEX REQUESTED USE, I BELIEVE. AND STAFF BELIEVES AND PLANNING COMMISSION ON A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT TRACK, ALL AGREED THAT THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER. AND AGAIN, I I WANTED TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS AREA. THIS IS A CIVIC CENTER. WHAT WE HAVE HERE, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM ALL OVER THE REGION, ALL OVER THE STATE TO THIS AREA, HAVING SOMETHING VERY HIGH QUALITY THAT I THINK THIS DEVELOPER CAN PUT IN A MIXED USE IS APPROPRIATE HERE. UM, I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPER HAS MADE MANY CONCESSIONS, INCLUDING TO ME. UH, I HAD ASKED ABOUT SEVERAL THINGS, UM, AND TO THE COUNCIL OFFICE, I WANNA MAKE CLEAR THE COUNCILMAN, THE ENTIRE DISTRICT EIGHT STAFF. WE HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN THIS FOR SEVERAL WEEKS. UM, AGAIN, I JUST DON'T SEE 65 HOMES, WHICH WOULD BE CRAMMED UP RIGHT AGAINST FIELDSTONE. I DON'T SEE THAT AS THE APPROPRIATE USE HERE. SO I THINK M X D IS THE APPROPRIATE ZONING. NOW, HOW EXACTLY WE GET TO THIS, UM, PROJECT WITHIN HERE, I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME ROOM FOR MOVEMENT. AND I'M PROBABLY GONNA GO 30 SECONDS OVER. I'M SORRY. UM, I KNOW THE DEVELOPER WANTS THE HIGHER DENSITY. THEY'RE ASKING FOR THE 25. THE NEIGHBORS WANT SOMETHING LOWER. THEY WOULD PREFER TO NOT HAVE THE CHANGE AT ALL, BUT I HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THEM THAT LOWER DENSITY WOULD AT LEAST BE BETTER. AGAIN, THIS IS A REFLECTION OF WHAT THE COUNCILMAN AND I AND HIS STAFF HAVE ALL DECIDED WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO GO FOR NOW, WHICH WOULD BE TO REQUEST THE, TO REQUEST FOR APPROVAL OF THE M X D, BUT WITH 169 UNITS, WHICH IS ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER MF 18. THERE IS STILL A LOT OF TIME BEFORE THIS GOES TO COUNCIL FOR ADJUSTMENTS WITHIN THE M X D PLAN, BUT OUR ROLE RIGHT HERE IS TO APPROVE THE ZONING CATEGORY. AND SO I'M GOING TO MOVE, UH, FOR RECOMMENDATION OF THE M X D ZONING WITH 169 UNITS WITH ALL SAWS RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WITH AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE. AND I JUST WANNA SAY, I THINK THIS IS NOT THE ONLY SOLUTION, BUT IT'S THE ONE THAT MOVES US FORWARD TODAY, AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THE, THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF AN AMENDED, UM, MOTION MADE BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER. WE, ANY DISCUSSION? [01:50:01] I OKAY. SEEING NO DISCUSSION. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. UM, AND I WANNA THANK COMMISSIONER ROMERO FOR MAKING THAT MOTION TO REDUCE THE DENSITY. I JUST, FOR THE RECORD, WANNA SAY I'M, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE BECAUSE I DEFINITELY HEAR THE COMMUNITY OPPOSITION TO THIS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC ON THAT ROADWAY. AND UNFORTUNATELY, ONCE AGAIN, WE FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION WHERE, UH, THE, THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA WILL SUFFER AND STRUGGLE FOR A WHILE BEFORE THE CITY CAN COME UP WITH FUNDS THROUGH PROBABLY A BOND PROJECT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THERE. AND, AND THAT'S A FUNDAMENTAL FLAW IN HOW WE TAKE SOME OF THESE CASES FORWARD. UM, AND I ALSO WRESTLE SOMETIMES WITH THE WAY ZONING STAFF COMES UP WITHIN, SUPPORTS THE NEED FOR THIS KIND OF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT TO ACT AS A BARRIER BETWEEN A COMMERCIAL USE SUCH AS THE, THE, THE AQUATIC STADIUM THERE. WHEN IN ACTUALITY THIS, WITHIN THE LAST YEAR OR SO, WE APPROVED AS A ZONING REQUEST TO PUT IN RESIDENTIAL DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM ALL THE BALL FIELDS. AND WHILE THEY MAY BUILD BALL FIELD TODAY, IT COULD BE ANOTHER HUGE COMMUNITY DRAW THERE IN THE FUTURE, THE SCHOOL DECIDES TO USE THAT PROPERTY. SO I'M WRESTLING WITH THESE ISSUES AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, BUT I DO FEEL SOME COMFORT IN THAT, UH, REDUCTION DOWN TO 169 UNITS. AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO CHIME IN ON THAT, THAT SOMETIMES WE, WE ARE IN THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE TO FIND A MEDIUM OF WHAT KIND OF IS BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AND YET WEIGH IN THE CONCERNS. AND I THINK AT LEAST THE APPLICANT HAS TRIED, UH, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT. AND SO I WANNA, AGAIN, ENCOURAGE PARTIES TO JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS AS WE TAKE IT TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO OTHER DISCUSSION, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL AS MIXED WITH USES AN M F 18 AND C TWO MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WE ALL RIGHT. AS WELL AS WITH ALL SAW RECOMMENDATIONS. AND FOR THE, UH, EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALLOWANCE. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMI? YES. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. AND CHAIRMAN KEY? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ZERO. OKAY, THANK YOU. NOW, I KNOW WE HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO, BUT I THINK IT MIGHT BE A A GOOD TIME FOR A, A QUICK, QUICK, QUICK BREAK. SO IT'S, UM, 3 0 4. WHAT I MEAN, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONS? NEED A BREAK? IF NOT, I'LL JUST TURN IT OVER TO COMMISSIONER. YES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. QUICK BREAK. IT'S UH, 3 0 4. UH, WE'LL TAKE A, UH, FIVE MINUTE BREAK. 3 0 9. WE'LL RETURN. HEY, CHAIR. UM, CAN I ASK YOU REALLY QUICK, WHAT DID YOU HAVE ON THE RECORD FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER? WE AH, OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'RE READY TO GO. ITEM NUMBER THREE, A [3. 20-4270 (Continued from 07/07/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700050 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 NCD-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-5 NCD-2 AHOD" Residential Mixed Alta Vista Neighborhood Conservation Airport Hazard Overlay District on the east 45.82 feet of Lot 7, Block 6, NCB 1892, located at 806 West French Place. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX N C D TWO A H O D TO R M FIVE N C D TWO A H. LOCATED AT 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE. THE CURRENT R SIX NCD TWO A H O D IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED RRN FIVE RESIDENTIAL MIXED DISTRICT IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA AND WOULD ALLOW FOR THREE RESIDENTIAL UNITS, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES, MAILED TWO WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. NONE IN FAVOR. ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION. THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY IS IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE ARE THREE INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE 200 FEET THAT ARE OPPOSED TO THE REQUEST. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAME CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? HELLO? HI, MY NAME'S JOHNNY BUCKINGHAM. HOW IS EVERYONE? GOOD, THANK YOU SIR. AWESOME. UM, YEAH, SO THIS IS A, UH, CONTINUATION FROM, UM, WHEN WE FIRST FILED IT. UM, WE'VE GONE BACK AND HEARD ALL THE, [01:55:01] UM, THE ARGUMENTS AND, AND GONE BACK AND GOT MORE SUPPORTING EVIDENCE TO SHOW THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS WORK AND MAKE IT FEASIBLE. UM, I, I ATTACHED FOUR DOCUMENTS, UM, FOR A PRESENTATION. UM, THE FIRST ONE IS FROM C A CONSULTING ENGINEERS. IT, IT IS, WE HAD THEM GO OUT AND INSPECT THE BACK UNIT, WHICH WE'RE TRYING TO TURN INTO TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS. 'CAUSE THE, THE HOUSE IS, THE HOUSE IN THE FRONT IS THE PRIMARY UNIT. AND THEN THERE'S A STRUCTURE IN THE BACK THAT WE WANTED TO TURN INTO TWO ADDITIONAL UNITS, UM, ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF OUR OUR MILITARY, CORPORATE HOUSING COMPANY. AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW STRUCTURE ONE SIDE WAS ARGUING THAT IT NEEDED TO BE TORN DOWN. OUR SIDE WAS SAYING IT DIDN'T, WE GOT AN ENGINEER TO GO OUT THERE, THEY INSPECTED IT AND THEY SAID THAT IT WAS IS FINE, YOU KNOW, MINUS A FEW PIECES THAT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. BUT OVERALL, UM, FOUNDATION, THE WALLS, EVERYTHING WAS GOOD AND IT'S ALL DETAILED IN THAT REPORT. SO THAT WAS THE FIRST, UM, THE FIRST HURDLE THAT I GUESS WE, WE HAD TO, TO JUMP OVER. UM, THE NEXT ISSUE WAS THE ISSUE OF, UH, THERE BEING ENOUGH AVAILABLE OFF STREET PARKING. SO THERE'S, UM, THERE'S A, UH, ONE OF OUR OTHER DOCUMENTS IS A, A SKETCH WITH THE PROPOSED PARKING PLAN. UM, AND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT, THE FAR LEFT IS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE AND THAT'S, UH, WEST FRENCH PLACE, THE STREET. UM, AND THEN IF YOU TURN RIGHT, OUR DRIVEWAY GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN. AND WE'RE PROPOSING THAT YOU CAN PUT TWO IN BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES AND THEN ONE PARKING SPOT ALL THE WAY AT THE BACK, UM, LEAVING THAT SPACE SO THAT ONE OF THE CARS COULD, UM, PULL IN HEADFIRST TO THE RIGHT WHERE THE TWO CARS ARE, AND THEN THEY COULD BACK REVERSE INTO THAT SPOT AND THEN DRIVE OUT, UH, GOING FORWARD, WHEN THEY LEAVE THE PROPERTY THAT WAY, THERE'S, UH, LESS OF A SAFETY ISSUE. UM, SO THAT'S OUR, OUR PROPOSED PLAN THERE TO MAKE THREE PARKING SPOTS AND THEN ENOUGH SO THAT THE CARS CAN TURN AROUND AND THERE'S NO ISSUE. AND THEN, UH, WITH THAT, WE DID GET, UM, A NEW SURVEY ON IT. UH, SO WHEN, WHEN WE WERE MEASURING THE DRIVEWAY, WE WERE ONLY MEASURING, UM, EIGHT FEET FROM THE HOUSE TO THE CURB. AND WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS, UH, THE OTHER, THE NEIGHBOR'S, UH, PROPERTY THEY HAD PUT IN SOME CURBING AND THEN PUT IN, UH, SOME BUSHES AND EVERYTHING. UM, AND THAT ENDED AT EIGHT FEET. SO AFTER GETTING THE SURVEY, WE FOUND OUT THAT, OKAY, NO, ACTUALLY OUR PROPERTY LINE GOES TO 10 FEET. AND THAT CURBING AND THE, THE, THE BUSHES THAT THEY PUT THERE ARE, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OUR, OUR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY. UM, SO WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING THAT 'CAUSE IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WIDEN OUR DRIVEWAY IF EIGHT FEET WASN'T SUITABLE. UM, BUT SINCE, YOU KNOW, THE AVERAGE CAR IS SIX TO SIX AND A HALF FEET WIDE, UH, WE THOUGHT EIGHT FEET WAS JUST FINE. BUT IF WE NEED THE EXTRA TWO FEET, TECHNICALLY WE HAVE THE EXTRA TWO FEET THAT WE COULD, UM, MAKE RIGHT THERE. SO WE GOT THOSE THREE. AND THEN THE LAST, UM, THE LAST ATTACHMENT WE PUT WAS OUR PROPOSED, UH, LIVING AREA. UM, THEY'RE JUST GONNA BE A SMALL SINGLE PERSON UNIT, UH, JUST WITH A BED AND A LIVING AREA, OPEN CONCEPT WITH A BATHROOM AND A KITCHEN. UM, OUR, OUR COMPANY JUST SPECIALIZES IN, IN MEDIUM TERM, UH, CORPORATE RENTALS FOR THE MILITARY. SO, YOU KNOW, AIRMEN, UM, SOLDIERS COMING IN TO LACKLAND OF FORT SAM. WE NEED A FULLY FURNISHED SPOT FOR SIX WEEKS UP TO, YOU KNOW, SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS WILL COME AND RENT OUT THESE FULLY FURNISHED PLACES WITH US. AFTER, YOU KNOW, BASE, UM, LODGING FILLS UP. SO, UM, OR IF THEY COME WITH THEIR FAMILY AND THEN, UH, THEY ACTUALLY DON'T ALLOW THE FAMILY IN THE BASE LODGING WITH THEM. SO THERE'S OUR PROPOSED, UH, FOUR PLAN FOR THAT. AND, UM, THOSE ARE THE BIG DOCUMENTS I BELIEVE THAT WE WERE ASKED FOR, UH, IN THE LAST MEETING. UH, AND IF, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE, I WOULD, UH, BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, DO WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES MA'AM. WE HAVE SOME LETTERS TO READ INTO THE RECORD. OKAY. THE FIRST ONE IS THE CON CONSERVATION [02:00:01] SOCIETY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS OPPOSED TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AT 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE. THE ANCILLARY STRUCTURE IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH SEA CODES AND APPEARS TO EXCEED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ALLOWED FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD CON CONSERVATION DISTRICT. FURTHERMORE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS EXPRESSED ITS OPPOSITION SINCE THE LOT SIZE DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MULTI-FAMILY USE. UNDER RMM FIVE ZONING IN ALT VISTA, WE SUPPORT THEIR REQUEST FOR CLARIFICATION AND STRONGLY URGE YOU NOT TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE. PATTY ZIONS OF THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY. THE NEXT ONE IS FROM ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THERE ARE ZONING COMMISSIONERS. THE ALT VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CONTINUES TO OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE. THIS PROCESS BEGAN ON TUESDAY, MAY 19TH. TODAY MARKS THE FOURTH TIME THAT WE HAVE COME BEFORE THIS BODY FOR A DECISION. IN ADDITION, WE ALSO HOSTED A ZOOM MEETING WITH THE D ONE STAFF, REPRESENTATIVE DEL BROOK ZONING COMMISSIONERS MCDANIEL AND GREATHOUSE, AS WELL AS A B N A BOARD MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS. WE PROVIDED A LIST OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FOR PETITIONER JONATHAN BUCKINGHAM TO ADDRESS. SINCE THAT TIME, THERE HAS BEEN NO CLEAR RESOLVE TO ANY ISSUE RAISED. THE ENGINEERING REPORT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLUDED TO BY BUCKINGHAM HAS NOT MATERIALIZED. AAV AND A HAS MAINTAINED THROUGHOUT THAT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS ZONING CHASE WEIGHS SO HEAVILY THAT WE NEED TO BELIEVE WITHOUT A DOUBT, IN THE VIABILITY OF THE PROPERTY AS A MULTI-UNIT PROPERTY, WHICH IS CONTINGENT ON THE BACK STRUCTURE. TO DATE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GIVEN ANY INFORMATION THAT PROVIDES US THAT CONFIDENCE AND ALLEVIATES OUR CONCERN. A CODE INSPECTION INITIALLY CALLED PER BY MR. BROOKS ON THE REAR STRUCTURE NEVER MATERIALIZED. THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE ZONING CHANGE WILL REMAIN WITH THE PROPERTY, EVEN IF IT'S DETERMINED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS THAT THE BACK BUILDING IS NOT SUITABLE FOR MULTI-TENANT, MULTI-UNIT. MOST IMPORTANTLY, WE MAINTAIN THE POSITION OF OPPOSING THE ZONING REQUEST CHANGE OUT OF THE CONCERN FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY STOCK. MR. BUCKINGHAM HAS PREVIOUSLY INDICATED THAT IF THE REAR BUILDING COULD NOT BE REMODELED OR REHABILITATED, THE MAIN STRUCTURE WILL BE USED AS AN AIRBNB. THE SEEMS OF FITTING SOLUTION AND MAINTAINS THE R SIX AND CD TWO DESIGNATION. FINALLY, WHY THIS PROPERTY FOR ALL ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS, WE WANT TO CONSIDER THE POTENTIAL FUTURE IMPACTS THE DISCREPANCIES OR MISINTERPRETATIONS OF THE MIDTOWN PLAN 2000 HAVE US ON HIGH ALERT AND IT WILL NOT BE UNTIL SOMETIME IN THE NOW DISTANT FUTURE THAT LAND USE POSSIBILITIES FOR ALT VISTA WILL BE REVIEWED FOR THE SA TOMORROW PLAN. IF THIS WERE BEING REVIEWED TODAY, WE WOULD BE WORKING TO INSERT, ENSURE THAT THESE PROPERTIES NEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR REMAIN AT LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION. THE NEXT ONE IS FROM KATHLEEN BAILEY. MY NAME'S KATHLEEN BAILEY. I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 7 22 WEST FRENCH PLACE. I OPPOSE THE REZONING OF 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE TO RM FIVE NC D TWO A H E. THE PROPOSED BU REAR BUILDING SIZE AND SETBACKS ARE IN VIOLATION OF ALT VISTA'S NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION STANDARDS. PLEASE NOTE, PLEASE VOTE TO RETAIN THE ORIGINAL RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY ZONING OF R SIX NCD TWO. THANK YOU. THE ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS GIVEN A GOOD DEAL OF TIME AND RESEARCH TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. WE ALSO MET WITH THE PETITIONER VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE TO LAY OUR ISSUES AND SEE CONSISTENCIES LAST TUESDAY, MAY 26TH. IT SEEMS THAT EACH CONVERSATION WITH THE PETITIONER OR D S D HAS LED TO EVEN MORE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS. THEREFORE, A CHAIRPERSON OF OUR, AS A CHAIRPERSON OF OUR TECHNICAL COMMITTEE, WE MUST OPPOSE REQUEST TO REZONE THIS PROPERTY FROM R SIX TO RMM FIVE. ASIDE FROM THE EXTREMELY POOR CONDITION AND CONCERN THAT WE HAVE REPEATEDLY DOCUMENTED FOR THE UNPERMITTED REAR STRUCTURE AT THE CENTER OF THIS REQUEST, WE DISPUTE D S C STAFF CONTENTION THAT THIS LOT SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. AS PER THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN, WE HAVE CONSULTED SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS WHO ACTUALLY WORK ON THE PLAN IN 2000. THIS LOT IS REMOVED FROM THE NORTH FLOORS CORRIDOR AND SHOULD BE PROPERLY DESIGNATED LOW DENSITY. WE BELIEVE THIS ERROR SHOULD BE CORRECTED FOR THE RECORD. ANOTHER VERY PLAIN ISSUE IS THAT THIS LOT DOES NOT MEET THE SIZE REQUIREMENTS THAT SET FORTH BY THE VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT. THE MINIMUM WIDTH FOR ANY PARCEL TO BE RE FOR MULTIFAMILY THREE UNITS OR GREATER BE STANDARDS 9 8 0 6 WEST FRENCH PLACE MEASURES 46 BY ONE 40. ACCORDING TO BCA, THE PETITIONER HAS BEEN DIRECTED TO THE M C D STANDARDS AS POSTED ON THE ALT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WEBSITE SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, THERE ARE ALSO BUILDING SIZE MATERIALS AND SETBACK ISSUES THAT ARE IN VIOLATION OF N C D STANDARDS. THERE ARE SO MANY NEGATIVE VARIABLES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY THAT WE MUST [02:05:01] BE CAUTIOUS AND REQUEST THAT THE BASE ZONING OF R SIX N C D TO REMAIN INTACT IN ORDER TO PRESERVE THIS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS SO VULNERABLE. AT THIS TIME, WE MUST ADVOCATE FOR LONG-TERM RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS. WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS SUPPORT THE FACTS AS LAID OUT BY AV AND A IN THIS CASE AND VOTE AGAINST THE REQUEST. TAMMY CAGLEY, I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL OF THE WRITTEN LETTERS. LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE, THERE WERE SOME OTHER LETTERS THAT YOU MAY BE SEEING ON THE SCREEN, BUT THESE HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY READ AT, UM, OTHER MEETINGS ACTUALLY TWICE NOW FOR THE RECORD. SO LET ME CHECK TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING. THERE ARE NO VOTES. VOICEMAIL. SO MADAM CHAIR, IT'S BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU. WITH, UH, MR. BUCKINGHAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? I'M SORRY. WE DO HAVE SOME LIGHT CALLERS. EXCUSE US FOR ONE MOMENT. OKAY. UM, UM, MY APOLOGIES. WE'RE MOVING BACK TO PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, MR. CARDINUS, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M HERE. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD SIR. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, I WANTED TO SAY THAT I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE ALTAVISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR OVER 25 YEARS, AND MY NAME IS HECTOR CARDINUS. UM, I LIVE AT 5 39 WEST ELSMERE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS IN ALTA VISTA. I WAS SERVING AS PRESIDENT DURING THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN ADOPTED IN 2000. I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT OUR LAND USE PLAN SHOWS THAT WE CONSIDERED THESE PROPERTIES ALONG THE 800 BLOCK OF, OF WEST FRENCH FOR POSSIBLE USE OTHER THAN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTS. UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE IN OUR MASTER PLAN ON THIS BLOCK IS ONLY NOTED AT THE FOUR CORNERS, UH, THE CORNER, LOTS OF FRENCH AND NORTH FLORES. YOU KNOW, I, UH, ALONG WITH OTHER FOLKS, WORKED FOR OVER A YEAR TO PUT THIS PLAN TOGETHER, UH, AND WE CHOSE TO KEEP THESE HOMES A SINGLE FAMILY ON THE 800 BLOCK OF, UH, OF, UH, WEST FRENCH. UH, THE MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE OPPOSED, UH, TO ANY, ANY TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY ZONING ON THIS BLOCK. ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THAT PARKING IN OUR OLD STREETS WAS, WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE ONE OF OUR MAIN REASONS FOR NOT WANTING MULTIFAMILY STRUCTURES. THE, THE PARKING ISSUE BECOME BECOMES A, A REAL PROBLEM TURNING OUR STREETS INTO A, INTO ONE LANE. UH, THE OTHER NAME OF THE PLAN, OR THE OTHER AIM OF THE PLAN WAS THAT WE ARE, AND WE REMAIN STRONG ADVOCATES OF HOME OWNERSHIP. UH, 25 YEARS OF, OF WORK BY ALTA VISTA HAS TRANSFERRED THIS ONCE DECLINING IN INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOOD INTO ONE OF THE CITY'S MOST COVETED PLACES TO LIVE. MANY OF OUR OLD DILAPIDATED RENTAL HOMES BACK THEN ARE NOW RESTORED INTO WARM, COMFORTABLE HOMES BY FAMILIES THAT HAVE MADE THE INVESTMENTS, UH, THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR AND CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR. I ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS INVESTOR HIS ONLY REQUEST BY CONTINUING TO FOLLOW OUR PLAN'S, WISHES AND CONCERNS OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES ON, UH, 800 BLOCK OF, UM, WEST FRENCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. CARDINALS. LET ME JUST CHECK TO SEE IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, COMMISSIONERS, UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. CARDENAS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME MR. CARDENAS. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND NOW WE HAVE MS. TAMMY KEGLEY. HELLO. GO AHEAD, TAMMY. THANK YOU. I'M TAMMY KEGLEY. I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF THE A V N A AND I AM ALSO CHAIR OF THE AV N A TECHNICAL COMMITTEE, 5 0 6 WEST KINGS HIGHWAY. THIS IS MY FOURTH APPEARANCE TO ADDRESS TO COMMISSIONERS ON THIS ISSUE. ALS VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION HAS PERFORMED OUR DUE DILIGENCE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A COMPLETE LACK OF COMMUNICATION ON THE PART OF MR. BUCKINGHAM. EVEN AFTER THE LAST CONTINUANCE OF JULY 7TH. WE HAD NOT RECEIVED THE ENGINEERING REPORT AS PROMISED. AS SUCH, WE REMAIN OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FROM R SIX AND CD TWO TO RMM FIVE. WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED HEALTH AND WELFARE CONCERNS. EXISTING SETBACKS ON THE UNPERMITTED AND DERELICT REAR STRUCTURE ARE UNSAFE IN SUCH A CLOSE ENVIRONMENT. THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT EXCEEDS THE LIMITATION [02:10:01] FOR AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT. WE HAVE FOUND THAT THIS REQUEST WOULD BE INCONSISTENT WITH THE EXISTING IMMEDIATE RESIDENTIAL LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD USE AND IMPACT OF 16 STRUCTURES ON THIS BLOCK, 12 ARE ZONED. R SIX THREE ARE ZONED RMM FOUR AND ONE IS RMM FOUR R ONE SINGLE FAMILY. THIS IS A BLOCK OF EXISTING LOW DENSITY HOUSING AND IT SHOULD REMAIN THAT WAY AS PER THE INTENT OF THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN, WHICH WE STILL OPERATE UNDER MEASURING 46 BY 140 FEET. THIS LOT IS TOO SMALL TO BE RE PLATTED FOR MULTI-FAMILY THREE UNITS OR GREATER. OUR N C D STANDARD REQUIRES A 50 FOOT LOT WIDTH. ONSITE PARKING IS PROPOSED, BUT EXPERIENCE TELLS US THIS, PROVIDED PARKING MAY LIKELY GO UNUSED BY SHORT-TERM TENANTS. AGAIN, THERE IS NOT ROOM TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE A D A COMPLIANT PARKING PER THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR N C D MILITARY CRASH PAD. L L C HAS NO ROOTS IN SAN ANTONIO OR ALTA VISTA. WE DO NOT DISPUTE MR. BUCKINGHAM'S RIGHT TO OPERATE AN T R TWO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS UNNECESSARY FOR THERE TO BE A ZONING CHANGE IN ORDER TO OPERATE HIS BUSINESS INTERESTS AT THIS ADDRESS WITH RESPECT, WE ARE SEEKING A DENIAL OF THIS REQUEST TODAY. THANKS. THANK YOU, MS. KEGLEY. LET ME SEE IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. THANK YOU. UM, MS. KECKLEY, UM, HAD YOU HAD ANY, UH, COMMUNICATION WITH MR. BUCKINGHAM, UM, SINCE OUR LAST, UH, ZONING COMMISSION HEARING TWO WEEKS AGO? NO, I HAVEN'T HAD COMMUNICATION. UH, NEITHER HAS, UH, ANYONE AT THE BOARD LEVEL. UH, AND AS I UNDERSTAND, NO ONE FROM D S D HAD HAD ANY COMMUNICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. UM, APPRECIATE TAMMY'S, UH, PATIENCE WITH THIS CASE. SHE'S PUT QUITE TOGETHER, UM, INFORMATION FOR ALL OF US. BUT TAMMY, I WAS WONDERING, UM, ARE THERE CONFORMING OR NON-CONFORMING MULTI-FAMILY, UH, ARE ANY OF THESE HOUSES BEING USED FOR MULTI-FAMILY BUS, UH, PURPOSES, CONFORMING OR NON-CONFORMING WITHIN THE BLOCK OF FRENCH PLACE OR WEST ASBY ASHBY OR SOUTH PRESA? UH, I, MY, UH, MY EXAMINATION HAS BEEN OF THAT BLOCK THAT THE HOUSE EXISTS ON. UH, THERE AS I NOTED, ARE RM FOUR AND, UH, THERE'S THREE RMM FOUR PROPERTIES, AND THERE'S ONE THAT'S RMM FOUR R ONE SINGLE FAMILY. SO THERE ARE A FEW, BUT THEY ARE EXISTING AND ARE ORIGINAL STRUCTURES TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, SO AS FAR AS ASHBY, ASHBY IS, UM, IDENTIFIED IN THE MIDTOWN NEIGHBORHOODS PLAN AS ONE OF THOSE, UH, THE THOROUGH AFFAIRS, UH, THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE RECOGNIZED FOR FUTURE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USE, UH, LOW IMPACT BUSINESS USE. UM, AS IT STANDS NOW, UH, THERE ARE BUSINESSES ON WEST ASHBY. UH, THERE WILL BE A THEATER GOING IN ON WEST ASHBY FROM, UM, UH, THE PUBLIC THEATER. AND AS WELL, THE, UM, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE BEING RESTORED ON WEST ASHBY THAT BACKS UP TO THIS BLOCK. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A RESURGENCE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA. UH, SO IF THAT IS, OKAY, SO WHEN THEY REMODEL, SOME OF THESE THAT MAY BE BOOTLEGGED MULTIFAMILY ARE GETTING PROBABLY LOOKED AT A LITTLE BIT CLOSER. I'M CURIOUS, THREE HOUSES DOWN AT EIGHT 16 WEST FRENCH PLACE, AND, UM, I SEE A LOT OF CARS PARKED ON WEST ASHBY ACROSS THE STREET. SO ARE THESE BEING CLEANED UP TOO? IT'S, IT'S, UH, ORIGINAL OF SINGLE FAMILY. WELL, LET ME SEE. UM, DO YOU HAVE A VISUAL FOR ME TO REFER TO? YES. I'M LOOKING AT A VERY GOOD SOURCE CALLED GOOGLE MAPS. I TRUST EVERYTHING. OKAY. WELL, I, I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, SO YOU'LL HAVE TO GIVE ME A MOMENT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S FINE. I I REALLY DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP A LOT OF YOUR TIME. YEAH, YEAH. WE, WE ARE ON A TIME LIMIT HERE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. WE, WE'VE REACHED OUR IMPATIENCE LEVEL. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, QUESTIONS. OKAY. WELL, MS. KECKLEY, [02:15:01] THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, UM, FOR YOUR TIME. WE, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CALLERS? NO, NO, MA'AM. THAT WAS THE, OUR LAST CALLER. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. UM, MR. BUCKINGHAM, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? FIRST OFF RESPONDING? YES. I, I DIDN'T GET IN COMMUNICATION WITH ANYONE. THAT'S MY MISTAKE. UH, NOT AN EXCUSE, BUT I JUST GOT RECALLED TO ACTIVE DUTY AIR FORCE, AND THEN I HAD TO TAKE A YEAR LONG ASSIGNMENT AT SCOTT AIR FORCE BASE. SO, UH, I'VE BEEN DOING, I JUST MOVED UP HERE. UM, UH, SO YEAH, I'VE BEEN BUSY WITH THAT, SO THAT'S MY FAULT FOR NOT COMMUNICATING AND GETTING BACK TO EVERYONE. AND I APOLOGIZE, UM, TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES, UH, THE PARKING BEING THE BIG ONE. SO IF YOU WANT TO USE GOOGLE MAPS AND GOOGLE MAPS, ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES AND SEE WHERE OUR TENANTS PARK AND WHERE THEY'RE QUOTE UNQUOTE FORCED TO PARK, NOBODY PARKS IN THE STREET. UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A WRITTEN RULE OR UNWRITTEN RULE, HOWEVER YOU WANT TO WORD IT, THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO PARK OFF THE STREET IN OUR DESIGNATED PARKING SPOTS IS WHY WE TOOK THE TIME TO PLOT OUT WHERE WE'RE PUTTING AT LEAST THESE THREE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPOTS. UM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THE NEIGHBORS, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DON'T WANT TO CLUTTER UP THE STREETS, AND THAT CAN ALL BE VERIFIED BY GOOGLE MAPPING ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES AND SEEING WHERE PEOPLE PARK. UM, AND THEN JUST, I DON'T, JUST FOR MY CLARIFICATION, SINCE I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, A, A MAJOR EXPERT IN THIS, UM, WE, WE GOT AN ENGINEER REPORT, WE GOT AN ENGINEER TO INSPECT THE BACK UNIT, AND THEN WE GOT A SURVEY ON IT. UM, AND I HEAR THE OPPOSITION SAYING THAT, NOPE, THIS IS A TEAR DOWN. IT'S NOT SUITABLE AND EVERYTHING, AND I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHERE ELSE I SHOULD HAVE GONE, IF I SHOULD HAVE GONE TO AN ENGINEER, UM, AND THEN A SURVEY COMPANY TO, TO DETERMINE THOSE TO KNOW THE, THE STRUCTURAL SOUNDNESS OF THINGS. UM, I GUESS I'M JUST ASKING WHO, WHO ELSE SHOULD I HAVE GONE TO, UH, FOR AN ENGINEER, UM, TO VERIFY, YOU KNOW, WHETHER A BUILDING'S SUITABLE TO LIVE IN OR NOT, AND THAT, THAT, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE MY LAST, UH, QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW WHO, UH, ARE YOU ADDRESSING THAT TOO? UM, IS IT STAFF OR COMMISSIONER? THE COMMISSIONER? I DON'T HAVE TO, I GUESS IF, IF ANYONE IF ANYONE KNEW, UH, THE WAY I UNDERSTOOD IT, UM, TALKING TO MR. BROOKS AND THEN FROM THE, THE PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM, WAS AT A MEET TO GO GET AN ENGINEER, SO SOMEONE OFFICIAL, UH, WHO IS CERTIFIED IN THAT, I GUESS PRACTICE. UM, BECAUSE I HAD THAT, UH, CONVERSATION WITH MS. KEGLEY WHERE SHE STATED, NO, IT'S A TEAR DOWN. IT'S A TEAR DOWN. AND I WAS, I WAS CONFUSED. I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW IF, LIKE I'M ALLOWED TO SAY THAT SOMETHING IS A TEAR DOWN. I, I THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER TO A, A PROFESSIONAL THAT'S LICENSED WITH THE CITY TO ACTUALLY LIKE, GO OUT THERE AND INSPECT IT TO DETERMINE IF A BUILDING IS, IS SUITABLE OR, OR, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURALLY SOUND OR NOT. BUT, UM, BUT THEN I HEARD THE, I HEARD THE REBUTTAL TO IT AGAIN, SO I GUESS I'M JUST NOT SURE IF THERE'S A, I'M SUPPOSED TO GO TO OTHER THAN A, THAN AN ENGINEER. SO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF ONE OF THE, UH, I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE SOMEBODY WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT WELL. UM, WE'LL, UM, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP, UM, TO THE COMMISSIONER, STARTING WITH THE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, IF YOU'LL, UM, HOLD ON. 'CAUSE WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. YES. THANK YOU. UM, I DO HAVE, UM, UH, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. UM, COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR RMM FIVE? SO IT'S GONNA BE BASED ON THE NUMBER OF UNITS, THREE OR MORE UNITS TRIGGERS 1.5 PARKING SPACES. SO HAVING, SO HAVING, SO HAVING THREE UNITS, YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE FIVE PARKING SPACES, IS THAT CORRECT? TO MEET CODE? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN FOR A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND, WE MAY HAVE GONE OVER THIS ALREADY, UM, BUT I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT BACK STRUCTURE. DO WE HAVE ANY HISTORY ON, UM, WHEN THAT WAS BUILT AND IF THERE WAS ANY PERMITTING PROCESS OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS, UM, FOLLOWED WHEN THAT WAS BUILT? [02:20:02] SO, UM, ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS, BCA SHOWS THAT THE STRUCTURE WENT UP IN 1986. UH, SO IT WAS PROBABLY DONE BY THE OWNER AT THAT TIME. IT, UH, IT, NO PERMITS WERE PULLED FOR IT. UH, SO THERE WERE NO, UH, PERMITS PULLED, NO INSPECTIONS FOR THAT, AND, UH, COULDN'T FIND ANY CITATIONS. SO NOBODY AT THAT TIME, WE WERE MORE REACTIVE THAN PROACTIVE. SO WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES CALLED ON, CALLED ON THAT OWNER AT THAT TIME. SO NOW THAT THE APPLICANT WANTS TO PROCEED WITH, UH, MAKING THESE, TURNING THESE INTO UNITS, THE, HE CAN ONLY ACQUIRE PERMITS IF HE HAS THE RIGHT ZONING. SO HE NEEDS TO GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS FIRST IN ORDER FOR, UH, US TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO, SUCH AS, UH, OUR INSPECTION AND REVIEWING ENGINEERING REPORTS AS NECESSARY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT NEEDS BUILDING AND, UH, FIRE CODES THAT CAN'T HAPPEN UNTIL HE GETS THE RIGHT ZONING. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND THEN, UM, O ONE QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, HOW MANY BEDROOMS ARE IN THAT FRONT HOUSE? UH, TWO MA'AM. TWO. YEAH, THAT'S JUST IT. OKAY, PERFECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS MCDANIEL? UM, SO QUESTION FOR STAFF KAT. JUST GETTING BACK TO WHAT YOU WERE SAYING ABOUT THE PARKING, IT'S 1.5 PER UNIT, THAT WOULD BE A TOTAL OF FIVE SPACES, AND ACCORDING TO THE DIAGRAM PROVIDED, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY ONLY HAVE THREE. SO CAN APPLICANT GET AROUND THAT WITH A VARIANCE OR WHAT HAPPENS? SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS. THEY COULD ENTER INTO A COOPERATIVE PARKING AGREEMENT WITH A PROPERTY THAT I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 600 FEET AWAY FROM THEIR DRIVEWAY, OR THEY CAN REQUEST A WAIVER OF THE REQUIRED PARKING THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, UM, IT IS BEEN A WHILE ON THIS ONE, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THIS, THE PROPERTY IN THE REAR THAT WAS NOT PERMITTED ALSO HAD A SETBACK ISSUE THAT WAS GONNA REQUIRE VARIANCE AS WELL, BECAUSE HE WAS ALREADY INTO THAT AREA. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. UH, SO MOST LIKELY YES, IF THE, IF THE STRUCTURE IS WITHIN FIVE FEET OF ANY SIDE OR REAR PROPERTY LINE AND THE INTENT IS TO USE IT AS A DWELLING UNIT, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE PROCESS IN ORDER TO ALLOW THAT SETBACK, UH, UH, ESPECIALLY IF THEY WANT TO USE THE CURRENT FOOTPRINT. UH, SO THE PROCESS WOULD NOT BE OVER A AFTER ZONING CONCLUDES BECAUSE THERE STILL IS THAT VARIANCE PROCESS FOR THE SETBACK. OKAY. AND AT THAT TIME, IF THEY NEEDED THE PARKING WAIVER, THEY COULD REQUEST THAT AT THE SAME REQUEST. OKAY. AND, UM, I KNOW THIS IS JUMPING TRACK, BUT I KNOW WE'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM RENTAL, TWO OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, WHAT'S THE PARKING REQUIREMENT ON A UNIT UNDER THAT AUSPICE? UH, SO IT, IT'S ALWAYS GONNA DEPEND ON THE, ON THE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ITSELF. IT'S JUST ONE PARKING SPACE, LIKE FOR ANY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. OKAY. UH, AND, UH, HE, THEY MEET THAT WITH, UH, THEIR CURRENT PARKING ARRANGEMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO THANK THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR PATIENCE ON THIS. UM, WE HAVE STRUGGLED THROUGH, UM, SOME ISSUES WITH, UH, WITH NON-COMMUNICATION AND, UM, TRYING TO HAVE VIRTUAL MEETINGS AND, AND WAITING ON SURVEYS AND, UM, ENGINEER REPORTS AND, AND SOME OTHER ITEMS THAT, UM, THAT, THAT HONESTLY THAT, THAT I'M SEEING FOR THE FIRST TIME HERE IN THIS MEETING. UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, I HAVE SOME CONCERNS THAT, THAT REMAIN FOR THIS PROPERTY. UM, THE, THE, THE PARKING SITUATION, THE FACT THAT THIS, UH, WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE, UM, FROM THE GET GO, UM, FOR, FOR THE PARKING TO BE MET, AND THAT THAT'S ASSUMING, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THESE FOLKS DON'T BRING, UH, IF, IF THESE WERE LONG-TERM RENTALS OF STUDIOS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WOULD HOUSE STUDENTS IN THE AREA OR OTHER FOLKS THAT REALLY ARE SINGLE, UM, I FEEL LIKE IT WOULDN'T HAVE AS MANY CONCERNS. BUT THE FACT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY BEING SHORT TERM AND YOU MAY HAVE COUPLES OR FAMILIES COMING IN AND USING THESE SMALLER UNITS, YOU MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL PARKING STRESS, UM, CAUSED FROM THAT. THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE. UM, THE FACT THAT THIS STRUCTURE IS LOCATED [02:25:01] SO NEAR THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THERE ARE THREE OTHER STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALSO LOCATED VERY NEAR THE PROPERTY LINES THERE. SO I THINK THAT PRESENTS A POTENTIAL HEALTH SAFETY AND WELFARE ISSUE. UM, HAVING STRUCTURES THAT WERE UNPERMITTED, UM, AND NOT, UH, NOT VETTED PRIOR, YOU KNOW, SUDDENLY WE'RE TRYING TO RETROFIT THEM AND WE'RE TRYING TO, TO SAY THAT THESE ARE STRUCTURES THAT COULD POTENTIALLY HOUSE PEOPLE. UM, I THINK THAT THAT IS POTENTIALLY A DANGER. SO WE HAVE TWO VARIANCES ALREADY THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, TO, TO, TO OPERATE IN THE WAY THAT, THAT THEY'RE INTENDING. UM, AND FINALLY, AND I THINK THAT THIS IS, HONESTLY, THE THING THAT CONCERNS ME THE MOST, UM, IS THAT THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT STANDARDS REQUIRE THAT ANY FA UM, ANY PROPERTY HAVING MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS DEFINED AS THREE UNITS OR MORE, IS REQUIRED TO BE AT LEAST 50 FEET WIDE. AND I BELIEVE PART OF THAT IS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE PARKING ISSUES, BECAUSE HAVING THAT, THAT WIDER, UM, LOT WOULD PROVIDE MORE SPACE, THIS IS A VERY NARROW LOT. UM, IT'S VERY SMALL. AND SO, UH, THE FACT THAT, THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN MEETING THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS HERE, THIS LOT IS NOT EVEN 46 FEET WIDE. UM, I THINK THAT THAT, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF, UM, DISQUALIFIES THE PROPERTY FROM, FROM BEING ZONED AS RMM FIVE, AND I'M KIND OF SURPRISED THAT IT, THAT IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT THESE, UH, N CD STANDARDS WERE PASSED BY CITY COUNCIL. AND THOSE ARE, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE CONSIDERING. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID AND SEEING THAT MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT, UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, SECOND MCDANIEL. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. DISCUSSION. ANY COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UH, I DON'T SUPPORT THE DENIAL. I, UM, IN READING OUR AFFORDABLE DWELLING UNITS AND OUR MUNI CODE, IF THIS MEETS A CRITERIA OR A NICHE THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN WANTING TO, TO BEGIN TO FILL ONE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, TO PROVIDE INCENTIVES OF PRIVATE HOUSING PROVIDERS WHO PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, ALSO THAT OUR ZONING SUBDIVISION ORDINANCES, BUILDING CODES RELATED DEVELOPMENT CONTROL ORDINANCES BE, UM, OVERCOME SOME BARRIERS THAT SEEM TO BE EXISTING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS AN INTERESTING NICHE THAT I DON'T THINK WE'VE CONSIDERED. UH, WERE DUE, PEOPLE WHO TRAVEL IN OUR MILITARY GO AND STAY, GO AND STAY FOR VERY SHORT PERIODS OF TIME. HE CERTAINLY IS MEETING THE CRITERIA OF AFFORDABLE DWELLING HOU UNITS. UM, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME, UH, ALREADY MULTI-FAMILY HAPPENING ON THE STREET IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, PROBABLY ORGANICALLY AND ON THEIR OWN. UM, SO I, I CAN'T, UH, I THINK MAYBE WE'VE MADE A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH OUT OF THIS CASE BECAUSE IT WENT ON SO LONG WHEN HE'S WITHIN ALL THE RIGHTS AS FAR AS OTHER THAN THE, UM, THIS, THE BACK SETBACK, WHICH IS NOT FIVE FEET, AND HE'LL HAVE TO GET THAT, UH, THAT VARIANCE ON THAT. BUT I, I'M NOT GONNA SUPPORT IT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS A NICHE THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND HERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO HAPPEN, AND IT'S MINIMAL, MINIMAL IMPACT ON THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I'M GONNA SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE. AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES NINE TO ONE. [02:30:03] THANK [5. 20-4247 ZONING CASE Z-2020-107000089 CD (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 CD MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Auto and Light Truck Repair to "C-2 CD MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for Welding Shop on Lots 9 and 10, Block 2, NCB 8086, located at 1720 Castroville Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] YOU. MOVING ON TO NUMBER FIVE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO ZEN FROM C TWO CD M L O D TWO M L R ONE A H O D TO C TWO CD M O D TWO MLR ONE A H O D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR A WELDING SHOP LOCATED AT 1720 CASTROVILLE ROAD. THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C TWO CD MAINTAINS THE BASE C TWO DISTRICT AND THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWED FOR CONSIDERATION OF A WELDING SHOP, A USE TYPICALLY ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN THE C THREE DISTRICT. THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS THE ONE USE IN ADDITION TO ALL USES ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN C TWO. ADDITIONALLY, THE CONDITIONAL USE HOLDS THE APPLICANT TO THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN AND ALSO ALLOWS FOR CONSIDERATION OF CONDITIONS WHERE APPROPRIATE, SUCH AS RESTRICTED HOURS OF OPERATION, RESTRICTED TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, FENCING, LANDSCAPE BUFFERS, AND OTHER SIMILAR RESTRICTIONS. THERE WERE 31 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. LOST PALM AND WESTWOOD SQUARE ARE IN OPPOSITION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? MR. MORALES, ARE YOU THERE? MR. MORALES, ARE YOU THERE? YES, YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. I HAVE YOU ON MUTE. I'M SORRY. NO PROBLEM. PLEASE GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THE ZONING COMMISSION. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND YOU'LL HEAR A SERIES OF BEEPS. UH, THE FIRST BEEP WILL BE A 32ND WARNING FOLLOWED BY THE SECOND BEEP, WHICH WOULD BE THE 10 MINUTES. SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE ALL OF THE 10 MINUTES, BUT JUST WANTED TO MAKE, UH, LET YOU KNOW. THANK YOU AND GOOD AFTERNOON TO EVERYBODY. UH, YEAH, WE WERE TRYING TO REQUEST, UH, THE CHANGE OF ZONING TO, UH, MAXIMIZE OUR, OUR, UH, USE OF OUR, OF OUR PROPERTY. AND, UH, THIS PROPERTY HAD A CASE AND I WAS BROUGHT IN TO, UH, TO HELP MY CLIENT AND, UH, TO MAKE HIM COMPLY WITH THE CITY REQUIREMENTS. UH, I THINK I HAVE LAS PALMAS AND, UH, UH, MY THING IS, UH, SOME OTHER OWNERS ASSOCIATION AND, AND, UM, AGAINST, BUT, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO COMPLY WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS HAVING, UH, THE LIABILITY IN FIRE INSURANCE AND THE, UH, THE FIREWALL AND A NO, UH, NOISE BARRIER TO COMPLY WITH THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND DO SOME LANDSCAPING, UH, ALSO TO, UH, TO, TO COMPLY WITH THEM AND, AND ALSO, UH, TO COMPLY WITH THE CITY. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MORALES. UM, IF YOU'LL HOLD THE LINE, UM, WE'RE GONNA SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND YOU'LL HAVE TIME TO RESPOND IF YOU SO CHOOSE. IS THERE STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS A LETTER FROM THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS LAS PALMAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE REZONING REQUEST FOR 1720 VILLE ROAD FOR A CONDITIONAL USE WELDING SHOP IS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO AN R FOUR AT 1608 ROMERO AND OF R SIX AT 1610 ROMERO. COMMUNITY CONCERNS ARE THE POTENTIAL HEALTH RISKS AND FIRE HAZARDS FOR SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEXT TO THE BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY THE, EXCUSE ME, THE NEIGHBOR NEXT TO THE BUSINESS IS CURRENTLY ON DIALYSIS TREATMENT. OTHER CONCERNS ARE THAT THE BUSINESS CURRENTLY HAS A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY VIOLATION AND HAS FAILED TO KEEP THE CURB APPEAL OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON CASTORVILLE ROAD AND ROMERO. PLEASE NOTE, WELDING SHOP HAS BEEN DOING BUSINESS SINCE 2018. THE WESTWOOD SQUARE AND LAS PALMAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING, AND THERE WERE PICTURES ATTACHED AT THE BUSINESS SITE. HOWEVER, IF THE OWNERS AT 1720 CASTORVILLE ROAD AGREE AND COMMIT TO INCORPORATE FIREWALLS, NO NOISE BARRIERS, CARRY LIABILITY INSURANCE AND LANDSCAPE AND BEAUTIFY THE BUSINESS GROUNDS, WESTWOOD SQUARE AND LAS PALMA LAS PALMA'S NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS MAY REVIEW AND SUPPORT THE REZONING REQUEST. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU OPPOSE CONDITIONAL USE WELDING SHOP IF THE OWNER DOES NOT AGREE TO COMPLY TO OUR REQUEST. BILL PENA AND GLORIA HERNANDEZ. AND WE DO HAVE ONE LIVE CALLER. MS. PENA, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I AM. YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ZONING COMMISSION IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. GO AHEAD, MA'AM. YES, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS VELMA PENA [02:35:01] AT 1111 SOUTHWEST GENERAL MCMULLEN. UM, I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET THE ZONING COMMISSIONERS KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD WITH CO COMPLIANCE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES ON, ON CASTORVILLE ROAD, AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB BY HELPING US, UH, MAKE, UM, CASTORVILLE ROAD THE CORRIDOR TO MAKE, MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE FOR THE COMMUNITY. UM, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES THAT, UH, SOMETIMES DON'T COMPLY WITH THE, THE ZONING, UH, REQUIREMENTS. SO THEREFORE, UH, WE ASK, UM, I'M SORRY, WE, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU OPPOSE THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE HEALTHY, FOR THE HEALTH AND SAFETY OF THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS. AND THAT WOULD BE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. IF YOU, IF YOU'LL JUST HOLD JUST ONE MOMENT. SURE. LET ME JUST CHECK TO SEE IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER BUS. THANK YOU. UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MS. PENA. UM, YES, SIR. NOW YOU'VE MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULD PREFER THAT THE COMMISSION OPPOSED THIS. UM, YES, SIR. BUT I BELIEVE THE LETTER INDICATED THAT THERE WERE SOME CONDITIONS THAT MIGHT HELP, FOR EXAMPLE, WITH THE FIRE FIREWALL AND NOISE ABATEMENT AND, AND MAYBE, UH, SOME BEAUTIFICATION EFFORTS. YES, WE DID PUT THAT ON THERE BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, WE JUST, WE'RE TRYING TO ALSO WORK WITH THE BUSINESSES TO TRY AND, AND, AND DO GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, UM, WE DID TALK TO THE, THE COMMUNITY AROUND THERE. THIS WAS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, I KNOW WE HAD TO, EXCUSE ME, SUBMITTED THE LETTER, BUT WE DID TALK TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. UH, SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORS THAT GET THESE LETTERS IN THE MAIL, UH, DON'T UNDER REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. SO WE, AS, AS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, PRESIDENTS, UH, WE GO OUT AND TALK TO THESE COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE, THE BUSINESS IS RIGHT NEXT TO, UH, SOMEONE'S HOME. AND SO UNFORTUNATELY, THIS BUSINESS HAS BEEN OPERATING FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S, WE FEEL THAT IT, IT IS UNSAFE, UH, FOR SOMEBODY TO BE DOING BUSINESS LIKE THIS WITH. RIGHT. UM, MS. PEN, I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M ON A TIME LIMIT AS WELL, SO I I APPRECIATE IF YOU WOULD JUST, SIR, THANK YOU, UH, ANSWER MY QUESTION. BUT YOU KNOW, ONE, ONE CONCERN THAT IS PRESENT IN THIS CASE IS THAT THE CURRENT USE ALREADY HAS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO REPAIR. UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, TO MY MIND SEEMS AT LEAST EQUALLY, UH, INTENSIVE AS A WELDING SHOP. YES. DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? YES. I MEAN, I KNOW IT'S AN INTENSE USE. YES. UH, THE, UH, AS FAR AS THE, UM, BEING A MECHANIC SHOP AS WELL, BUT WITH THE WELDING SHOP, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRE AND, AND WELDING AND HEAT AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE ASKING. YES. THANK YOU MS. PENA. YOU'RE WELCOME. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. PENA. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY, ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF? NO, MA'AM. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MR. MORALES, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? YES. OKAY. YES. UH, YEAH, YEAH, LIKE I, I MENTIONED IT. UH, WE'RE WILLING TO COMPLY WITH THE FIRE INSURANCE. WE HAVE 5, 5, 5 SIGNATURES AND, UH, AND, UH, AND APPROVAL. AND I HAVE MISS, UH, UH, ROMERO AND THE NEIGHBOR I RIGHT NEXT TO US. UH, SHE, SHE GAVE ME THE LETTER SIGNED WHERE SHE APPROVED IT. AND, UM, UH, WE TALKED TO HER AND SAID AND, AND TOLD HER THAT, UH, WE WERE, WE WERE GONNA DO THE, UH, THE BARRIER FENCE AND THE, UH, FIREWALL AND WE WERE GONNA HAVE, UH, LIABILITY IN, IN, UH, FIRE INSURANCE FOR THEIR PROTECTION. SO, UH, THE USE IS, UH, THE USE AS INTENSIVE AND IT'S AS PRETTY MUCH SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT FOR EVERYBODY'S SAKE, UH, WE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MORALES. IF YOU'LL JUST, UM, HOLD ON. I WANNA SEE IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY. UM, UH, I WANNA START OFF WITH COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, THEN I'LL MOVE TO YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. AND ACTUALLY, I'M GONNA START MY QUESTIONING WITH A QUESTION FOR STAFF. I'M LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN FOR THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS SUBMITTED, AND IT LOOKS TO [02:40:01] ME LIKE THE OFFICE PORTION OF THIS PROPERTY FACES CASTORVILLE ROAD. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS HOW IT APPEARS TO US AS WELL, SIR. YES. OKAY. AND THEN THE WELDING SHOP IS A LONG ROAD MIDDLE, A COYO MIDDLE, AND HAS A FIVE FOOT SETBACK TO AN R FOUR PROPERTY. DO WE HAVE A SENSE AS TO HOW THAT OCCURRED? UH, WE CAN ONLY SURMISE THAT, UH, THE STRUCTURE MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT, UH, WITHOUT PERMITS AT THAT TIME, UH, TO ENSURE THAT AN INSPECTION WOULD'VE OCCURRED IN, IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS, UH, COMPLIANT WITH THE APPROPRIATE SETBACKS FOR COMMERCIAL ZONING ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL. MR. MORALES, NOW A QUESTION TO YOU. DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT BUILDING WAS BUILT? THAT WAS LIKE SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO, AND YOUR INTENTION IS TO RUN A WELDING SHOP OUT OF THAT, THAT BUILDING, THAT SECTION, YES. STAFF A QUESTION AS TO WHAT CONDITIONS I CAN PLACE ON THIS PROPERTY. MR. MORALES HAS INDICATED, AND AT LEAST IN THE LETTER WESTWOOD SQUARE HAS INDICATED, UH, THAT HAVING A BARRIER FENCE WOULD BE IT. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE ADDED AS A CONDITION, CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. YOU CAN DO SOLID SCREEN FENCING, YOU CAN DO, UM, APPROPRIATE HEIGHT FOR THAT AS WELL. UM, OTHER THINGS THAT YOU COULD REQUIRE IS THAT, UH, WORK BEING PERFORMED INSIDE A ENCLOSED STRUCTURE AS OPPOSED TO A CARDBOARD TO HELP MINIMIZE NOISE. UH, THOSE ARE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT, UH, YOU COULD DO AS CONDITIONS. UH, I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW, UH, THE APPLICANT FEELS ABOUT THE BUILDING, BUT THE, BUT THOSE ARE OPTIONS THAT YOU CAN ADD, UH, AS A RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. UM, BUT A FIREWALL WOULD BE BEYOND THAT, BEYOND THE CONDITIONS THAT I COULD REQUEST, UM, BEING THAT SPECIFIC. NO, THAT'S GONNA, FIRE CODE'S GONNA REQUIRE THAT ANYWAY. IF IT IS ENCLOSED, UH, ALL THE MATERIALS WILL HAVE TO BE FIRE RATED BECAUSE IT IS, UH, WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL, UH, STRUCTURE. SO, UM, BUT AGAIN, YOU COULD REQUIRE SENSING AS WELL AS WORK TO BE PERFORMED INSIDE AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE. THAT ENCLOSED STRUCTURE WILL HAVE TO BE BUILDING A FIREPLACE. ALL RIGHT. AND CERTAINLY I COULDN'T REQUIRE THE INSURANCE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT HERE. NO, THAT'S NOT, UH, A CONDITION THAT CAN BE TIED TO ZONING. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. UH, MR. MORALES, A QUESTION TO YOU, BY THE WAY, DO I HAVE A TIMER RUNNING? UH, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT, BUT, OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, MR. MORALE, ONE OTHER CONDITION THAT I CAN APPLY, AND I ASSUME YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BARRIER FENCE OR, UH, A SOLID SCREEN FENCE AT SIX FEET TALL AS BETWEEN YOUR PROPERTY AND ANY R FOUR PROPERTY OR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY BORDERING IT? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY. UM, DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, A RECOMMENDATION THAT ANY WORK BE PERFORMED INSIDE AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE? NOT A PROBLEM. UH, WHAT WOULD BE THE HOURS OF OPERATION THAT THIS WELDING SHOP WOULD TYPICALLY USE? IT'S FROM EIGHT TO EIGHT TO SIX. IS THAT MONDAY TO FRIDAY? MONDAY TO FRIDAY AND SATURDAY'S ON ON IF ALLOWED, I CAN WORK FROM EIGHT TO, UH, EIGHT TO ONE. ALRIGHT. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, PLEASE. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, QUESTION FOR MR. MORALES. FIRST TELL ME HOW MANY WELDERS YOU'LL HAVE BE WORKING IN THE STRUCTURE. IT'S ONE, UH, ONE WELDER AND TWO ASSISTANTS. AND WHAT KIND OF, UH, FABRICATION ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING THERE? THAT'S IRON FENCE, UH, PROTECTION GUARDS, WINDOW GUARDS, DOOR AND, AND, UH, GUARD, UH, GUARDS FOR THE, UH, MAIN DOOR. OKAY. UM, AND I'M ASSUMING YOU'LL BE DOING, OBVIOUSLY BUFFERS GRINDING PAINTING? UH, WE DO THAT ON SITE. [02:45:01] UHHUH . OKAY. UM, AND HOW WILL YOU, HOW, HOW ARE YOUR PRODUCTS BEING DELIVERED? YOU HAVING COMMERCIAL TRUCKS COME IN, IN AND OUT WITH MATERIALS? WHAT'S THAT TRANSFER? UH, WE, UH, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A, A, A WORK TRAILER THAT WE BRING IN, UH, OR THEY DELIVER THE PIECES AND THEN WE, FROM, FROM THE JOB, WE TAKE THE MATERIAL ON TRAILERS TO THE JOB SITE. OKAY. AND, UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR ASKING ABOUT HOURS OF OPERATION. UM, AND YOU ARE AGAIN WILLING TO ENCLOSE THAT STRUCTURE, UH, KEEP YOUR WELDING IN AND, UH, OTHER INDUSTRIAL TYPE WORK? YES. AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL OR OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR FOUR RESIDENTIAL. YEAH. OKAY. AND ARE YOU STILL WELL, OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO SINCE THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO AND LIKE TRUCK REPAIR AND WE'RE CHANGING IT TO WELDING SHOP THAT PROHIBITS THEM FROM SELLING CARS ON A PART-TIME BASIS. I MEAN, FROM GOOGLE IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE GOT CARS FOR SALE IN THE FRONT YARD. I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST CURIOUS. I WANNA BE SURE THAT THAT GETS, UM, RESTRICTED THAT THAT'S NO LONGER A USE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THEY'RE REZONING FROM THIS TO A NEW USE AND TRANSITIONING TO THAT NEW USE. ONCE THEY TRANSITION, THEY CAN NO LONGER GO BACK TO THE OLD USE BECAUSE THEY'RE NO LONGER ZONED FOR IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, SIR, YOU MUTE? YES, THANK YOU. UM, I HADN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO TALK TO MR. MORALES PRIOR TO TODAY. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CASE WHERE IT'S KIND OF TWO BAD OPTIONS TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST. I'M NOT PLEASED WITH EITHER ONE. UH, I'M NOT PLEASED WITH THE, UH, ABILITY OF, UH, THIS PROPERTY TO CON CONTINUE TO BE USED AS, UH, USED CAR SALES OR CAR SALES IN SOME MANNER AS A CONDITIONAL USE. I'M NOT ENTIRELY THRILLED THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, A WELDING SHOP WITHIN FIVE FEET OF A RESIDENTIAL USAGE. HOWEVER, BY BRINGING IT INTO COMPLIANCE, BY ADDING CERTAIN RECOMMENDATIONS, I THINK THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THIS USE. UM, AND MR. MORALES, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU AS THIS MAY BE HEADS TOWARDS CITY COUNCIL, UH, THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WORK WITH LAS PALMAS AND WESTWOOD SQUARE AND THAT YOU CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE COUNCIL PERSON'S OFFICE, UH, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THOSE TWO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA MOVE, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM WITH THE FOLLOWING RECOMMENDATIONS OR CONDITIONS, UH, THAT THERE BE A SOLID SCREEN FENCE BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND ANY RESIDENTIAL USE AT SIX FEET TALL. YES. UH, THAT ALL WORK BE PERFORMED INSIDE AN ENCLOSED STRUCTURE AND THAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION BE LIMITED FROM EIGHT TO SIX, MONDAY TO FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. EIGHT TO ONE SECOND. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION, UM, MADE BY, WITH, UH, CONDITIONS MADE BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND THEN COMMISSIONER WHITE. THANK YOU. I GUESS I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE. I GREW UP ACROSS THE STREET FROM A PERSON WHO DID WELDING OUTSIDE AND, UM, SO I, I REALLY HAVE TROUBLE ANY TIME WE APPROVE THIS, I STILL CAN SEE IT, I CAN STILL HEAR IT AND I CAN STILL TASTE IT AND SMELL IT. IT'S, IT'S REALLY NASTY STUFF. UM, I THINK I'M GONNA TRUST IN, I I CAN SEE THAT YOU ARE RELUCTANT AS WELL, AND I THINK I WILL, UH, TRUST IN YOUR, UM, DESIRE TO JUST TURN THIS INTO AN OVERALL GAIN FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK I WILL APPROVE THIS, BUT I STILL FEEL SO CONCERNED ABOUT THIS, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP ON THIS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA COMMEND COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AS WELL ON THIS. UM, FRANKLY, I THINK THAT'S WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO DO IS, IS MAKE THESE, MAKE THESE TOUGH [02:50:01] CALLS. I AGREE. THERE'S NO PERFECT SOLUTION HERE, BUT THERE'S REALLY TWO CHOICES AND I THINK, UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE HAS MADE THE, UH, WHAT'S A VERY PRACTICAL AND, UM, I THINK SOUND DECISION HERE, UH, TO MOVE FORWARD IN A, IN A DIFFICULT CASE. SO THAT'S WHY I SECONDED THE MOTION. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UM, DISCUSSION? OKAY. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMENT FIRST 'CAUSE I WAS PASSED OVER. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE APPLICANT TO HEAR THE CONCERNS THAT THIS BOARD HAS REGARDING THE USE OF THIS, UH, PROPERTY AND TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO BE THE BEST NEIGHBORS THAT YOU CAN BE AND TO BE IN CONTACT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WORK OUT THEIR CONCERNS BEFORE YOU GET TO COUNCIL. SO MY VOTE IS YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UH, AND I, UH, MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. THANK YOU. SORRY, COMMISSIONER, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK. UH, WE HAVE ITEM SIX AND SEVEN, WHICH ARE, UH, DEALING WITH THE, UH, SAME, UH, BLOCK AREA. BUT UH, I WANTED TO HAVE THE, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES TO CHIME IN THAT SHE WANTED TO HEAR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN BEFORE ITEM NUMBER SIX. YES, THAT IS, THAT IS CORRECT. ALRIGHT, [7. 20-4227 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700114 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District and "R-6 CD MLOD-3 MLR-2" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District with a Conditional Use for Multi-Family Dwellings not to exceed eleven units per acre or a total of 2 units to "C-2 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District on Lots 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, the north 34.59 feet of Lot 10 through Lot 14, and the north 34.59 feet of Lot 15, Block 5, NCB 1181, located in the 2600 block of North Interstate 35. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2020-11600029) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] CHAIR, WE'RE GOOD THEN WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. YES PLEASE. OKAY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX M O D THREE, MLR TWO AND R SIX CD M L O D THREE MLR TWO WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS, NOT 60 TO 11 UNITS PER ACRE OR A TOTAL OF TWO UNITS, TWO C TWO M L O D THREE M L R TWO LOCATED IN THE 2,600 BLOCK OF NORTH INTERSTATE 35 STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THOUGH NEARBY TO RESIDENTIAL, THE SITE IS A SELF-CONTAINED BLOCK ADJACENT TO LARGE ROADWAY THAT ALLOWS ACCESS THAT IS SEPARATE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE PROPOSED ADDITIONAL BLOCK OF C TWO WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND COMMERCIAL MIXED USE CORRIDOR. ALONG WALTER STREET AND I 35, THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED FIVE WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, EIGHT IN OPPOSITION. GOVERNMENT HILL IS IN SUPPORT. THERE WERE 14 NOTICES RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA AND 16 NOTICES RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA THAT ARE OPPOSED. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? THIS WYNN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? THIS IS ROBERT WYNN. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD SIR. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES. THANK YOU. UH, I'M WITH THE FROST BANK TRUST DEPARTMENT AND REPRESENTING THE CLMA JACKSON TRUST. WE'RE TRUSTEE FOR THE CLMA JACKSON, UH, UNDER THE CLMA JACKSON WILL AND THE TRUST IS, UH, SET UP FOR THE BENEFIT OF MS. JACKSON'S GRANDCHILDREN. THIS TRACK IS AT THE HARD CORNER, THE NORTHWEST LOCATION, UH, AT WALTERS AND INTERSTATE 35. IT'S A VERY BUSY INTERSECTION. UH, IT'S ABOUT SEVEN TENTHS OF AN ACRE, 32,000 SQUARE FEET OF LAND. AND WE ARE TRYING TO MARKET THE PROPERTY TO GENERATE INCOME FOR THE TRUST AND WE ARE REQUESTING THE C TWO ZONING IN ORDER TO HELP US ASSIST OR ASSIST US TO MARKETING TO THE HIGHEST OF BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY. AND BASED ON ITS LOCATION, WE BELIEVE THAT IT, UH, IS, IS MOST SUITABLE AS A, UH, TRANSITION ZONING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF GOVERNMENT HILL. UH, WE ARE TRYING TO PARTNER WITH THE, UH, PARCEL TO THE NORTH, [02:55:02] WHICH IS ABOUT AN ACRE TRACT OF LAND. UM, AND IN ORDER TO ENABLE THE EVENTUAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY TO UH, HAVE INCREASED SETBACKS FOR LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERS FOR THE UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU SIR. SO IF YOU'LL JUST STAY ON THE LINE. UM, IS THERE STAFF? IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES MA'AM. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW. OKAY. THE FIRST ONE IS YOLANDA DELFIN FROM 1 0 3 RIO STREET, RENO STREET. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HOW I FEEL THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN IN OUR LIFE SINCE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW PURCHASED IT OVER 60 YEARS AGO. IT WAS HANDED DOWN FROM HIS MOTHER TO MY HUSBAND AND WHEN WE ARE GONE, IT WILL BE HANDED DOWN TO OUR GIRLS. WE HAVE A VERY PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD LIKE IT TO STAY THAT WAY. I WAS NOT IN DIALYSIS, I WAS IN DIALYSIS FOR FIVE YEARS AND THAT CHANGED MY LIFE. I FELT LIKE A PRISONER COULD NOT, I FELT LIKE A PRISONER COULD NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE GO ON VACATION OR GO TO MY GRANDKIDS GAME, WHICH I LOVE TO DO. FINALLY, I HAD A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT. UH, NOW I HAVE A SUPPRESSED IMMUNE SYSTEM AND I HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. NOW WITH THE CVID 19, I FEEL LIKE A PRISONER AGAIN WHEN WE ARE WORRIED AGAIN. AND NOW DURING THIS PANDEMIC, THEY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD C TWO MIXED USE FOR COMMERCIAL. THIS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR HOME. WE KNOW THIS PROPERTY WILL SELL AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE, BUT NOT FOR A GAS STATION. NOT FOR A GAS STATION. PLEASE CONSIDER US ON HOW WE FEEL C TWO AND A GAS STATION IS NOT GOOD FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS LIKE ME WHO ARE ALREADY SICK. THIS PIECE OF LAND IS ALREADY BEING ADVERTISED BY LOZANO PECAN TREE REALTY AS COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS NOT, WHICH IT IS NOT, IT IS OUR SIX RESIDENTIAL. WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY GAS STATIONS AROUND US. PLEASE THINK OF ALL OF US LONGTIME NEIGHBORS WHO DO NOT WANT THIS ZONING CHANGE. OUR STREETS ARE GOING TO GET BUSIER AND WE HAVE A SCHOOL SO CLOSE. WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN. WE WOULD LIKE MORE NEIGHBORS, NOT LESS. C TWO GAS STATION BRINGS CARS GOING WAY TOO FAST DOWN OUR STREETS, CUTTING THROUGH. PLEASE RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DON'T LET THEM RUIN IT NEIGHBORS. MIGUEL AND YOLANDA, TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN, I AM A RESIDENT IN THE GOVERNMENT HILL AREA AND I RECENTLY SAW THAT THERE IS A REZONING ORDER AMID EDGAR STREET NEAR FORT SAM HOUSTON. THERE WAS, THERE WAS RECENT TALKS OF BUILDING A QT GAS STATION A FEW MONTHS AGO, BUT THE RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO PREVENT THIS. I AM UPSET THAT THIS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. THERE ARE SEVERAL GAS STATIONS IN THE AREA, A FEW ON I 35. THERE'S A VALERO IN THE PEARL DISTRICT THAT I AVOID BECAUSE OF THE HOMELESS AND DRUG SEEKERS. THE CRIME IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HIGH AND MY FEAR IS THE GAS STATION WILL ATTRACT PAN HANDLERS AND HOMELESS. IN ADDITION, THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT LIVING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A GAS STATION INCREASES YOUR RISK OF CANCER. THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR MYSELF FOR THE HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN BLOCK DOWN. IN ADDITION, THE QT WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA WHICH WILL BE DANGEROUS FOR CHILDREN. THERE ARE MANY CHILDREN IN THE AREA THAT WALK TO SCHOOL. MY FEAR IS SOMEONE WILL GET RUN OVER ONE DAY. MANY PEOPLE SPEED ON CARSON STREET AS IT IS. PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS REZONING FOR THE QT GAS STATION. THE RESIDENTS HAVE LIVED THERE FOR GENERATIONS. IF THEY'RE FORCED OUT, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE ALREADY LIVE NEAR A BUSY HIGHWAY. I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE AREA STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL. I FEEL IF THIS WAS A HIGH INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD, THE REZONING ORDER WOULD BE SHUT DOWN RIGHT AWAY. QT GAS STATION IS FINDING ANOTHER LOOPHOLE TO HAVE THE LANDOWNER GET THE PROPERTY ZONE COMMERCIAL. AND BECAUSE THE AREA HAS MORE POVERTY, WE ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF. WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE OPPOSED TO LARGE UNNECESSARY C TWO REPLACING LONG ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL OWNERS ARE FREE TO MAKE A PRO LARGE PROFIT ON THE SALE OF THEIR PROPERTY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF ESTABLISHED, APPROVED, AND PROPER ZONING DISTRICT USES. SINCERELY, LONZO DEAR COMMISSIONERS, THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION ASKED IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE RESIDENTS OF GOVERNMENT HILL THAT YOU OPPOSE THE PROPOSED VOTING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO SEASUITE. AS SAN ANTONIO FACES A HOUSING CRISIS THAT IS SOON TO BE EXACERBATED BY THE COVID 19 PANDEMIC, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE PRESERVE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT CAN SERVE AS DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU HONOR THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH INDICATES LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AND ASK YOU DENY THE ZONING CHANGE. RESPECTFULLY, HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION, I'M CONTACTING YOU ABOUT THESE TWO CASES ACROSS THE HIGHWAY FROM ME. I AND MY HOUSEHOLD OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST FOR BOTH CASES FOR COMMERCIAL USE D TWO. WE OPPOSE IT BECAUSE THIS TYPE OF REZONING IS [03:00:01] EMBLEMATIC OF THE KIND OF ENCROACHING COMMERCIAL USE THAT ERODES OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, HISTORIC AND AFFORDABLE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ESPECIALLY SUSCEPTIBLE TO THIS TYPE OF TRANSITION. AND OFTEN WITHOUT THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF WHAT IT DOES TO THE FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M SURE MANY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND RESIDENTS NEARBY THIS PROPERTY HAVE THE SAME POSITION. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AMONG OTHER ENTITIES, HAS AN ODD HABIT OF APPROVING REZONING AND A VARIETY OF ACTIONS WITH A PROMISE THAT IT ENABLES BENEFIT TO EMERGE INCLUDING A PROJECTED PROPERTY SALE. I'VE SEEN SO MANY STRUCTURES IN NEIGHBORHOOD CORNERS BE LOST DUE TO THIS KIND OF DEALING WITH NO SALE IN SIGHT. THE CITY GRANTING REZONING UNDER THIS GUISE IS UNETHICAL. IT IS A CLEAR CONFLICT OF INTEREST AND NEEDS TO BE AVOIDED AT ALL COSTS. THE TECH STOP FEEDER ROAD HAS COME CLOSE TO DESTROYING THE PACIFIC EDGE IN GOVERNMENT HILL AND MY HOUSEHOLD OPPOSES ANY FURTHER ACTION THAT WILL DEGRADE THE LIFE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THE PARK, AND NUMEROUS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. MONICA SABINO, MARK 1120 EAST CROCKETT. HELLO, MY NAME IS MAX AND I'M WRITING TODAY CONCERNING THE ZONE CASES ONE 13 AND ONE 14. I DO NOT WANT THE ZONING CHANGE TO DO AWAY WITH PERFECTLY GOOD HOUSING THAT IS NEEDED IN SAN ANTONIO. THE CITY ALREADY HAS A HOUSING CRISIS. GOVERNMENT HILL IS ONE OF THE FIRST NEIGHBORHOODS IN SAN ANTONIO AND IT IS SLOWLY BEING EATEN AWAY BY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL. WE NEED MORE HOUSING STOCK, NOT LESS A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE A BETTER FIT FOR THIS AREA. THE NEIGHBORS WOULD NEVER KNOW WHAT WOULD BE BUILT IF THE ZONING IS CHANGED. THERE IS ALREADY C TWO ZONING ACROSS WALTERS FROM THIS AREA. DON'T CHANGE THE ZONING FAIRLY MAX TIS AT 1 0 2 GLEN TOWER DRIVE. DEAR ZONING COMMISSIONERS, THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENTS ASK IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE RESIDENTS OF GOVERNMENT HILL THAT YOU OPPOSE THE PROPOSED REZONING FROM RESIDENTIAL TO C TWO ANTONIO FACES THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT IS SOON TO BE EXACERBATED. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE READ THAT ONE. SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO LOGAN FULMER WHO WRITES STEER COSA ZONING CASE MANAGER IN CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING AND LAND USE DEPARTMENT. THE REASON FOR THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CASE MENTIONED ABOVE THAT REQUEST ZONING OF LOTS. I HAVE A QUESTION. IT SAYS 1 1 3. ARE WE, ARE WE READING THE LETTERS FOR 1 1 4? UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, REMEMBER 1 1 3 AND 1 1 4 ARE THE SAME, ARE UM, IN THE SAME BLOCK AND SO THEY SUBMITTED LETTERS FOR BOTH CASES. OKAY, THANK YOU. THE REASON FOR THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT TO THE ZONING CHANGE MENTIONED ABOVE THAT REQUEST ZONING OF LOTS ONE THROUGH FOUR AND SEVEN TO 10 ON BLOCK THREE. NEW CITY BLOCKED 1178 TO BE CHANGED FROM R SIX TO C TWO. I HAVE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER AT 9 0 1 MASON STREET SINCE 2018 AND NOW A RESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL AT 9 0 2 MASON STREET. SINCE 2020 I LIVE AND WORK IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THE MOST APPROPRIATE USE OF THE LAND ON THE CORNER OF THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY AND MAIN THOROUGHFARE TO THE AREA IS COMMERCIAL C TWO. THIS LOCATION WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO FACE THE HIGHWAY AND THE NEED FOR BUSINESS USE IS EVIDENT ALONG THIS STRETCH OF ROAD. I WELCOME THIS REZONING EFFORT AS IT WILL CERTAINLY BECOME A CONDUIT FOR MUCH NEEDED INVESTMENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SUPPORTS LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF GOVERNMENT HILL LOGANVILLE FULLER. DEAR COMMISSIONERS, THIS STATEMENT IS ON BEHALF OF A NUMBER OF DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH LAND USE AND ZONING ISSUES IN INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS. EVEN THOUGH THIS PROPERTY IS NOT IN DISTRICT ONE, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. AND BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHAT IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HAPPEN IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD. ONE, THESE REQUESTS ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH WAS UPDATED IN 2010. THE UPDATED LAND USE MAP AND THE REVITAL REVITALIZATION STRATEGY MAP BOTH INDICATE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA. TWO, THIS REQUEST IS OPPOSED BY A LARGE NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE 200 NOTIFICATION AREA AND WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THOSE RESIDENTS. THREE. THIS REQUEST IS IN ABSOLUTE CONFLICT WITH PROTECTING AND SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH THE CITY HAS SPENT THE LAST FIVE PLUS YEARS ADVOCATING FOR. WE DO NOT HEAR CONVERSATIONS WHERE ANY CITY LEADER IS BEGGING FOR MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE. WHAT WE DO HEAR IS THEM BEGGING FOR HOUSING. THERE ARE EIGHT RENTAL UNITS ON THE ONE 12 RENO LOT THAT WILL BE VACATED AND DEMOLISHED IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USE. IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THE FOLKS WITHIN 200 FEET THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS THAT HAVE TRIED TO TALK TO THE PRINCIPALS ABOUT NEGOTIATING SOME KIND OF ZONING THAT [03:05:01] WOULD ALLOW FOR LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL AND OR HOUSING, BUT TO NO AVAIL. THAT IS VERY DISAPPOINTING. THE APPLICANTS ARE WORKING TOGETHER SO THAT THEY CAN MARKET THE PROPERTY AS ONE IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE SALE SALEABILITY AND PROFITABILITY. BUT THEIR PROPERTIES DO NOT EXIST IN A VACUUM. THEY EXIST IN A NEIGHBORHOOD. AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH NEIGHBORHOODS, NEIGHBORHOODS SPACE WITH LAND USE ZONING CHANGES IS THAT IT SETS PRECEDENT AND CAN LEAD TO COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT. RIGHT NOW THERE IS ONE NC ZONE PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF EDGAR AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND THERE IS C TWO I D Z ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WALTERS. AN ARGUMENT WILL MOST LIKELY BE MADE THAT C TWO ZONING IS THEREFORE NOT CONSISTENT WITH OTHER NEARBY USES, BUT C TWO IS A FAR CRY FROM NC AND THE NC PROPERTY IS STILL A HOME, AT LEAST FROM THE EXTERIOR. UM, SO CHAIR, WE HAVE THE SAME LETTERS FOR THE NEXT CASE. WE CAN CONTINUE TO READ THESE IN ITS ENTIRETY, UM, DURING THIS CASE AND IT WOULD BE UP TO YOU AT THE NEXT CASE TO DETERMINE IF, UH, WE NEED TO REREAD THESE INTO THE RECORD FOR THE NEXT CASE. SO, UM, BECAUSE THEN AT, AT A MAX IT WOULD GET TWO MINUTES EACH. SO, UM, AND WE LEAVE IT UP TO YOU. WE CAN CONTINUE WITH THIS ONE AND THERE MIGHT BE A FEW MORE LIKE THIS, BUT LEMME JUST COMPARE WITH THE 30. I'M JUST GONNA CONFER WITH THE COMMISSIONERS REAL QUICK SO IT ESPECIALLY, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. SO, UM, I'M OKAY WITH, UM, JUST READING THEM ONCE AND KNOWING THAT IT APPLIES TO BOTH THIS CASE. UH, THIS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AND ITEM NUMBER SIX. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL DIFFERENTLY THAN THAT? OKAY, I I, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THE ONLY THING, ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS THAT, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT THAT THESE ARE LONGER, THAT WE READ THEM UP TO THE FOUR MINUTE MARK. OKAY. IS THAT THE QUESTION THAT STAFF WAS ASKING? THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE. YES, WE CAN DO THAT. THAT'S NO PROBLEM. RIGHT. AND THEN, AND THEN WE JUST KEEP THEM IN MIND IN THE NEXT ITEM. OKAY. ALRIGHT. EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY. YES, WE WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD? YES. YOU CAN READ THIS AS AN ENTIRE 10. WE'LL, UM, AS COMMISSIONER BUS MONTE SAID, WE'LL KEEP THESE IN MIND FOR THE NEXT CASE AS WELL. ALRIGHT. SHE'LL CONTINUE WHERE SHE LEFT OFF AND THEN WE'LL JUST ADD ANOTHER TWO MINUTES. I'LL START ON THAT SIXTH PARAGRAPH. AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS FACE WITH LAND USE ZONING CHANGES IS THAT IT SETS PRECEDENT AND CAN LEAD TO COMMERCIAL ENCOURAGEMENT. RIGHT NOW THERE IS ONE NC ZONE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF EDGAR AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND THERE IS C TWO I D Z ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WALTERS. AN ARGUMENT WILL MOST LIKELY BE MADE THAT C TWO ZONING IS THEREFORE NOT INCONSISTENT WITH OTHER NEARBY USES, BUT C TWO IS A FAR CRY FROM NC AND THE NC PROPERTY IS STILL A HOME, AT LEAST FROM THE EXTERIOR. WALTERS IS A WIDE STREET WITH A CONCRETE MEDIAN AND ROCK PILLARS AND FENCING LINING THE ROAD, WHICH SEPARATES IT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT IS UNREASONABLE TO SAY THAT WHAT'S GOOD FOR ONE SIDE OF WALTERS IS GOOD FOR THE OTHER. THE SIDE OF WALTERS BEING DISCUSSED IS STILL ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY RESIDENTIAL. I IMAGINE WHAT THE C S D ZONING MA, THAT WHAT THE D S D ZONING MAP WITH THE TWO SUBJECT PARCELS CONVERTED TO RED TO REFLECT COMMERCIAL ZONING WOULD LOOK LIKE AND YOU KNOW THAT THE NEXT APPLICANT REQUESTING COMMERCIAL ZONING IN THIS AREA WILL HAVE A MUCH EASIER TIME JUST BASED ON WHAT THE MAP WILL LOOK LIKE. THAT'S HOW COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT HAPPENS. THE RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS ALSO HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOMES, THEY WOULD'VE BEEN COUNTING ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. CONTINUING AS A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, BASED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN AND THE ZONING, WE FIND IT PROFOUNDLY UNFAIR TO PULL THE RUG OUT FROM UNDERNEATH THEM. JUST BECAUSE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS WANT MAXIMIZE PROFITABILITY, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU OPPOSE D TWO REZONING REQUESTS. SINCERELY, COSIMA VIN DAVE WATSON, MARY JOHNSON, FREDERIKA KUSHNER, AND MISA SHELL, CYNTHIA STEELMAN, ANTHONY GARCIA, MARGARET LE, AND TAMMY KALEY. DEAR DIRECTORS, MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS, I RIGHT TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED C TWO REZONING BY MRS. SARAH MARTINEZ AND BY THE CUOMO JACKSON TRUST OF THE PROPERTIES AT WALTER STREET AND I 35. MY ORGANIZATION IS ONE OF THE LARGEST COMMERCIAL STAKEHOLDERS IN THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE FOLLOW PROPOSALS AMONG OUR NEIGHBORS CLOSELY. THIS ONE IS REMARKABLE AND DESERVING OF OUR SUPPORT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS. THIS PROPERTY IS A GATEWAY TO THE SOUTH OF FORT SAM AND A CRITICAL LOCATION MRS. MARTINEZ PROPOSAL IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND HONORABLE MRS. MARTINEZ IS A PICTURE OF OUR [03:10:01] NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAS ALWAYS SUPPORTED US WHEN WE NEED HER, WE NOW HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME APPROPRIATE BALANCED DEVELOPMENT AND TO SUPPORT OUR OWN NEIGHBORS IN THE PROCESS. AGAIN, I EXPRESSED MY SUPPORT FOR THIS REZONING AS THE PROPOSED TO C TWO AND ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO JOIN WITH ME IN SUPPORTING MS. MARTINEZ AND THE CLMA JACKSON TRUST. SINCERELY, JOHN, SPEAK JR. DEAR MRS. HILL, MY BUSINESS IS ATLAS BODY SHOP 9 22 EAST CARSON. I HAVE OWNED MY BUSINESS SINCE MAY OF 1971. AT THE SAME LOCATION I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A PROPONENT OF COMMERCIAL GROWTH IN GOVERNMENT. HILL NEW BUSINESS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR THE AREA, ESPECIALLY IF IT CREATES JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. I HAVE KNOWN MS. MARTINEZ FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND I SUPPORT HER PROPOSED PROJECT THAT I BELIEVE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PROPERTY. THE PROPERTY AS IT STANDS NOW, IS BOTH UNSIGHTLY AND A SAFETY HAZARD. THIS PROJECT WILL GREATLY IMPROVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AGAIN, I GIVE MY SUPPORT FOR THE REZONING AS PROPOSED TO C TWO AND ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO JOIN ME IN SUPPORTING MS. MARTINEZ ON HER PROPOSED PROJECT. RICHARD LAY OF ATLAS BODY SHOP 9 22 EAST CARSON MEMBERS AND NEIGHBORS OF GOVERNMENT HILL. I'M WRITING TO CONFIRM OUR SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING BY MRS. SARAH MARTINEZ AND THE COOMA JACKSON TRUST FOR THE PROPERTIES NEAR WALTERS AND I 35. I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY IN GOVERNMENT HILLS SINCE 2015, RECOGNIZING MANY CHANGES MOVING FORWARD. THE GROWTH OF GOVERNMENT HILLS DEPENDENT ON MANY FACTORS WHICH CONSIST OF FAMILY PRESERVED HISTORY, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, AND COMMERCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE. THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION IS LOCATED NEAR THE MAIN GATE OF FORT SAN HOUSTON, WHICH IS IDEAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR REZONING TO C TWO. MS. MARTINEZ HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS AND HAS PUT FORTH A TREMENDOUS EFFORT CREATING BALANCED COMMERCIAL ZONING FOR GOVERNMENT HEALTH. ONCE AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED REZONING TO C TWO, ALLOWING DEVELOPMENT OF NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. ED. UH, IT SAYS HE IS WRITING ABOUT THE PROPERTY AT WALTERS IN 35 FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, AND DOESN'T FEEL THAT RESIDENTIAL IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. AND THANKS YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. MY NAME IS VALERIE REYNOLDS AND I'M EMAILING YOU TODAY REGARDING TWO ZONING CASES COMING BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON 7 21 20 20. PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO C TWO COMMERCIAL. THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOULD REMAIN SO HOMES THAT FAMILIES CURRENTLY OWN AND RENT IN THE AREA WOULD HAVE TO FACE THE REAR END OF A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THAT COULD TURN OUT TO BE ANYTHING GAS STATION, FAST FOOD EATERY, ET CETERA. WHO WANTS THAT IN THEIR LIFE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE ALREADY SIX FULL BLOCKS OF C TWO ZONING ACROSS WALTERS. I HAVE HAD A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE REGARDING PROPERTY OWNERS GOING BEFORE ZONING COMMISSION AND NOT BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT ALL THEY WOULD BE BRINGING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A ZONING CHANGE IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR. I LEFT THE 900 BLOCK OF NOLAN WHERE I OWNED A SMALL BUSINESS CALLED CHICA . FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS, I LEFT THE AREA BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNERS BROUGHT IN A C B D SHOP BAR AND A TATTOO GUN SHOP. IT COMPLETELY CHANGED THE ENTIRE VIBE OF THE BLOCK. MY FAMILY AND MY CUSTOMERS AND MANY OF THE DIGNITY HILL RESIDENTS HAD NO IDEA THAT A GUN SHOP WOULD BE ALLOWED TO OPEN SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE SINCE RELOCATED OUR BUSINESS TO THE MONTE VISTA AREA OF SAN ANTONIO AS A RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO SINCE 2012. I LOVE THE CITY AND ITS DIVERSITY. EACH PART OF TOWN HAS ITS OWN PERSONALITY. IT MAKES SAN ANTONIO AWESOME. PLEASE ADD MORE HOUSING TO THE AREA AND KEEP COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE PARISH. UH, PA AWAY FROM THE PERISHING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ZONE. ALSO WE ARE, I GUESS THAT WAS PERSING ELEMENTARY, RIGHT? OKAY. ALSO, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC AND THIS SEEMS LIKE A REALLY BAD TIME TO POSSIBLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES WITH THE THOUGHT OF HAVING TO MOVE LIVE FEET BEHIND A GAS STATION OR HAVE THEIR PROPERTY VALUES [03:15:01] DEVASTATED. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THIS EMAIL. I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE CARE, TAKE SOME OF THE THINGS I HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU ALL MAKE A DECISION ON A ZONING CHANGE. SINCERELY, VALERIE REYNOLDS, THE FOLLOWING LOOKS LIKE A PETITION SIGNED BY A NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS AND IT READS, DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL. TWO RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS OVER TWO ACRES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. JUST 30 FEET FROM OUR HOMES ARE APPLYING FOR UP ZONING FROM R 62 TO ALLOW FOR UNSPECIFIED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A MEGA GAS STATION. JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER THE QUICK TRIP MEGA GAS STATION FIGHT, THE ZONING COMMISSION ATE ONE VOTE TO DENY THEIR APPLICATION AND THEIR SUBSEQUENT WITHDRAWAL FROM THE THESE SAME PROPERTIES. THIS TIME, IT'S THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANNA DEVELOP. OURS IS ONE OF SAN ANTONIO'S OLDEST FORT SAM NEIGHBORHOODS. MANY ARE MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME FAMILY FOR DECADES. THIS PROPOSED ZONING THREATENS EACH OF THE RESIDENTS, HOMEOWNERS, CHILDREN, AND THE PERSHING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAMPUS, WHICH IS 450 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED PROPERTY. THE 200 FOOT NEIGHBORS HAVE TRIED DISCUSSING COMPROMISE WITH THE FROST BANK TRUSTEE WHO MANAGES THE FRONT PROPERTY AND THE LAWYER FOR THE LARGER ONE 12 MARTINEZ PROPERTY TO BE TOLD THAT THEY WERE UNWILLING TO GO FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN A FULL COMMERCIAL C TWO ZONING CHANGE, WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO SELL THE PROPERTY FOR THE GREATEST RETURN. THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS TO DO MORE TO PROTECT ITS CULTURAL, CULTURALLY RICH NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY ARE THE ESSENCE OF WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT THIS CITY. ITS ROOTS AND HERITAGE. OPPORTUNISTIC LAND GRABS FOR UNNEEDED GAS STATIONS IN MARGINALIZED, IN MARGINALIZED NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE GOVERNMENT HILLS SHOULD NOT BE AWARDED C TWO ZONING REQUESTS. WE THE MOST IMPACTED NEIGHBORS WHOSE HOMESTEAD STREETS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS MOST THREATENED. RESPECTFULLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY REQUEST THAT YOU DENY FOLKS ONE 13 AND ONE 14 CASES TO REZONE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM R SIX TO C TWO. PLEASE DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL. MY NAME IS MARY HELEN ANTE. I LIVE AT 6 0 2 6 0 3 SANDMEYER. MY PROPERTY IS SEVEN 11 SANDMEYER. IT IS 166 FEET FROM THE REZONING PROPOSAL PROPERTIES. I MOVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL IN MAY OF 1946. I NOW LIVE ONE BLOCK OVER FROM MY CHILDHOOD HOME THAT I INHERITED FROM MY DAD WHO PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 106 IN 2015. I AM 83 YEARS OLD. I HAVE LIVED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 74 YEARS. I MAY NOW BE THE PERSON CURRENTLY LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN HERE THE LONGEST. MY CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, CHILDREN, AND MANY COUSINS AND NIECES STILL LIVE HERE. IT'S MY HOME, IT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S MY FAMILY'S NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS, THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SMALL CHILDREN PLAYING IN THE PARK AND GOING TO SCHOOL. TRAFFIC WILL BE AWFUL FOR SCHOOL BUSES. I AGREE WITH MY NEIGHBORS. A C TWO COMMERCIAL IS NOT GOOD FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE, THE NEIGHBORS IN THE 200 FOOT ZONE ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL C ONE, NOT C TWO THAT WILL MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD UNSAFE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY AND THE KIDS. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TO CHANGE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COM TO C TWO COMMERCIAL. THANKS. THIS ONE IS FROM STEVE SIG, CASE ONE 13 AND ONE 14. ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE THE SAME PROPERTIES WITH PROPERTIES WITH THE SAME ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS FROM R SIX TO C TWO IS TURNED ON JANUARY 21ST WHEN THE CASE WAS BROUGHT BY QUIKTRIP. I WOULD LIKE TO RECAP QUICKLY THE COMMENTS MADE BY EACH OF YOU THAT VOTED FOR DENIAL ON THAT PRE PREVIOUS CASE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO, I DON'T THINK C TWO SHOULD BE COMING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. COMES DOWN TO C TWO. NEXT TO R SIX. THE R SIX IS A HEALTHY FUNCTIONING ORGANIC NEIGHBORHOOD. COMMISSIONER SYKES, IT'S THE INTRODUCTION OF C TWO. BESIDES COMPARED TO THE SCHOOL, BESIDES COMPARED TO THE PARK, IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO HOME. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. WE DECIDED TO KEEP THE RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA AND PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS CASES. HERE IT IS THE DEMOLISHING EIGHT POTENTIALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS, WHICH WILL COME BACK ONLY AS URBAN SPRAWL. COMMISSIONER HUS NOT HAVING TRANSITION FROM R 6 52 IS ABRUPT. COMMISSIONER KAMATH GENERALLY GO BY NEIGHBORS AND TRUE NEIGHBORS CAME OUT TO EXPRESS THEIR CONCERN. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, GIVEN THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT AND THE STATUS QUO OF R SIX, I WILL SUPPORT SMILE COMMISSIONER MCGEE NEIGHBORS SAYING IN GREAT VOLUME IT [03:20:01] IS AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THEIR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL AREA. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL NOT A FAN OF GAS STATIONS BACKING UP TO RESIDENTIAL DIFFERENCE THEN NOW IS NO GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN INVESTED. NOTHING PREVENTS THE SALE OF THIS PROPERTY TO A GAS STATION DEVELOPER IF APPROVED. CASE ONE 14. ADMITTEDLY TO PLANNING COMMISSION. ADMITTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION THAT ALTHOUGH HE WOULD PURSUE THEIR CASE SEPARATELY, THERE WERE CHALLENGES WITH DEVELOPING THEIR PROPERTY FOR COMMERCIAL USES WITHOUT THE CASE. THE CASE ONE 13 PROPERTY DENIAL DOESN'T STOP DEVELOPMENT AS NO DEVELOPER HAS MADE HIMSELF KNOWN. APPROVAL ONLY STOPS THE NEIGHBORS FROM HAVING INPUT WHEN A DEVELOPER IS FOUND, IT IS NOT EQUITABLE. TO APPROVE THIS REQUEST AT THIS TIME, ASHLEY , THREE 15 COLEMAN STREET. MY MOTHER AND I MOVED FROM SUTTON HOMES HOUSING 30 YEARS AGO INTO OUR HOMES HERE. 1718 AND 1714 EAST CARSON STREET. WE'RE BOTH ABLE TO BE HOMEOWNERS THANKS TO MR. GORDON HARTMAN AND THE SEA OF SAN ANTONIO. SEE THE NEWS ARTICLE ATTACHED. MY DAUGHTER NOW LIVES NEXT DOOR AND I TAKE CARE OF MY BROTHER HERE IN MY HOME. I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED LIVING HERE. THIS IS OUR HOME. MY GRANDKIDS GO TO SCHOOL AT PERSHING ELEMENTARY, JUST AROUND THE CORNER. AND IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO US THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS STAY SAFE FOR US ALL. WE DON'T NEED OR WANT C TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY MOVING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRINGING LOTS OF TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. , WE WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER HERE. WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT LESS. I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DENY ANY APPLICATIONS FOR C TWO REZONING OF CASE 1 13 13 AND CASE ONE 14, MS. BETTY ALLEN. AND THE LAST ONE I HAVE MS. STACK IS FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY, WHICH STRONGLY OPPOSES THE APPROVAL OF THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE 2000 BLOCKS NORTH WALTERS. THIS REQUESTS ZONING CHANGE FROM R SIX TO C TWO WILL ALLOW THE DEMOLITION OF SEVERAL PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL HISTORIC HOUSES AND CONTINUED COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. FURTHER REDUCING THE AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAN ANTONIO. RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, PAT ZION. AND WE DO HAVE SEVERAL LIVE CALLERS TO PATCH IN AND VOICEMAIL. SO WE WILL START WITH VOICEMAIL. YES, MY NAME IS STELLA ASHLEY AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS AREA CODE TWO TEN THREE THREE SEVEN FOUR EIGHT SEVEN ZERO. UM, I HAVE A HOUSE, UH, ON CARSON STREET AND I'M CALLING IN ABOUT CASE NUMBER, UH, Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 1 4. UH, IH 35 AND WALTERS THAT IS BEING REQUESTED COMMERCIAL BY FROST BANK. UM, I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS GOING COMMERCIAL THAT THAT AREA NEEDS TO BE DEVELOPED, UM, INSTEAD OF SITTING THERE AND OVERGROWN AND THE HOUSES THAT ARE THERE, UH, DETERIORATING. I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JAMES. I'M CALLING TO LEAVE A VOICEMAIL ABOUT CASE NUMBER ONE ONE FOUR. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (956) 404-1754. I LIVE IN 1800 EAST CARSON STREET, 210 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED TWO TWO PROPERTY. FIVE MONTHS AGO WE WERE HERE AND THE ZONING COMMISSION VOTED AGAINST THE C TWO ZONING CHANGE IN AN R SIX NEIGHBORHOOD. LET ME REMIND YOU OF THE VOTE. NATHANIEL SAID NO TO A C TWO SPIKE SAID NO TO C TWO WHO SAID NO TO A C TWO. GREAT HOUSE SAID NO TO THE C TWO ROMERO SAID NO, KAMAS SAID NO. AND BO DEANTE SAID NO. AS WELL AS CHAIRWOMAN MCGEE SAID NO TO THE C TWO. HERE ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE LAST ZONING MEETING REGARDING THE SAME PROPERTY AND THE SAME C TWO ZONING PROPOSAL. ROMERO CLAIMED TO HAVE VISITED OUR AREA FIVE MONTHS AGO. HAVE YOU VISITED COMMISSIONER ROMERO? HAVE YOU VISITED RECENTLY? HAVE YOU SEEN THE PURPLE AND YELLOW AND RED SIGNS THAT SAY DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL? COMMISSIONER ROMERO, YOU SAID LAST TIME, I DON'T THINK C TWO SHOULD BE COMING INTO THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. YOU ALSO SAID THIS JUST COMES DOWN TO A C TWO, NEXT TO AN R SIX. WHEN YOU GO THERE, YOU [03:25:01] CAN SEE THE R SIX IS A FUNCTIONING ORGANIC HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE C TWO JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. ROBERT SITE, YOU SAID FIVE MONTHS AGO, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A QUICK TRIP. IT'S THE INTRODUCTION OF A C TWO. IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO HOMES. ROBERT SAID YOU VOTED AGAINST THE C TWO SUMMER GREATHOUSE AND DISTRICT ONE SAID EVEN THOUGH IT'S A LONG 35, IT'S STILL VERY RESIDENTIAL. AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE ALSO SAID ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS WERE WERE DEMOLISHING EIGHT UNITS IN QUOTE. THAT'S EIGHT UNITS. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, YOU'RE JUST COUNTING EIGHT UNITS. ARE YOU COUNTING THE CHILDREN THAT WERE ALSO LIVING IN THOSE EIGHT UNITS? KEN HUEY OF DISTRICT SIX SAID, NOT HAVING A TRANSITION FROM AN R SIX TO A C TWO IS ABRUPT. COMMISSIONER VOTED AGAINST THE C TWO DURING KAMA OF DISTRICT FOUR SAID, HERE WE HAVE TRUE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE WITHIN A FEW HUNDRED FEET. TOOK THE TIME TO COME OUT HERE AND EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS. I'M LEANING TO SUPPORT A MOTION TO DENY THE C TWO. AND CHAIRWOMAN MCGEE SAID THE NEIGHBORS HERE CLEARLY IN GREAT VOLUME SAYING THAT IT'S NOT WHAT THEY WANT. AND, AND IT'S AN ENCROACHMENT INTO THEIR CURRENT RESIDENTIAL AREA. THIS WAS ALL BEFORE C OVID 19. WE HAD A BODY COUNT INSIDE OF A ROOM. WE HAD A PRESENCE INSIDE OF THAT ROOM FIVE MONTHS AGO. JUST BECAUSE THIS IS ONLINE, DO NOT LOSE THE HUMANITY, THE RESIDENCY AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS SITUATION. VOTE NO TO THE C TWO ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. MY ADDRESS IS THREE 14 SANDMEYER. PHONE NUMBER (210) 363-2050 REGARDING CASE Z DASH 2020 DASH 1 0 7 0 4. I LIVE FOUR BLOCKS FROM THE C TWO COMMERCIAL NEW ZONING PROPOSAL AND IS ONLY 58 FEET FROM MY CHILDHOOD HOME WHERE MY SISTER AND BROTHER-IN-LAW NOW LIVE AND 133 FEET FROM MY BROTHER'S PROPERTY. I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 50 PLUS YEARS WHERE I WAS BORN, RAISED, AND ALSO RAISED MY FAMILY AND WHERE I PLAN TO LIVE MY RETIREMENT YEARS, I'M OPPOSED TO C TWO COMMERCIAL RE-GOING PROPOSAL. IT SENDS ME TO THINK WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS WILL COME INTO THIS QUIET AND PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISRUPT IT. I WILL JOIN AND OPPOSE WITH THE NEIGHBORS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED IN THE 200 RANGE. PLEASE DENY THIS PROPOSAL. DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HELLO, MY NAME'S JOSE SGA. I AM THE OWNER OF 25 43 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 AND AGAIN 25 39. I OWN BOTH PROPERTIES NEXT TO EACH OTHER AND I AM IN WITHIN THE 200, UH, FEET FROM CASE NUMBER 1 1 3 AND 1 1 4. I AM AGAINST IT. I'M IN OPPOSITION. I DO NOT WANT C TWO COMMERCIAL USE MIXED USE IN THIS AREA. THIS IS DERMAN HILL. WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 1984 WHEN I WAS 12. NOW I'M 48 YEARS OLD AND I CANNOT SEE THE NEIGHBORHOOD GO DOWN THAT WAY. WE TRYING TO LIVE HERE THE REST OF OUR LIVES. WE WOULD LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO STAY LIKE THIS. SO AGAIN, I OWN TWO PROPERTIES, 25, 39, AND 25 43 WITHIN THE 200 FEET FROM THE CASE NUMBER 1 1 3 N ONE ONE FOUR. AGAIN, MY NAME'S MY TELEPHONE NUMBER'S. TWO ONE ZERO FOUR TWO ONE EIGHT TWO SIX. ANY QUESTIONS? GIMME A CALL. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS OSCAR GONZALEZ. I LIVE AT 2 4 2 3 WHITE DRIVE, BAY CITY, TEXAS 9 7 9 2 4 0 3 4 7 2 IN REGARDS TO Z 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 0 1 4 AROUND THE GOVERNMENT HILL CHANGES. DON'T KILL THE GOVERNMENT HILL. I WAS RAISED THERE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, IT WAS SUCH A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR A SINGLE MOTHER TO BE PART OF THE GOVERNMENT HILL, UH, IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. SHE WAS ABLE TO OWN A HOME AND RAISE TWO KIDS AS A SINGLE MOTHER AND THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS A GREAT PLACE TO GROW UP AND EVERYBODY TOOK CARE OF EACH OTHER. DON'T KILL THAT CHANCE FOR THE NEXT [03:30:01] OSCAR GONZALEZ TO BE ABLE TO START HIS LIFE THERE. YES. HI, MY NAME IS STACY SCHWAN. UM, I LIVE AT 2 0 3 RADIANCE AND MY NUMBER IS 5 1 2 3 3 2 6 7 7 9. I'M CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHANGE IN CASE NUMBER ONE 14, UH, THE FROST BANK TRUSTEE CASE. UM, PLEASE CONSIDER THE SMALL HOMEOWNERS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND VOTE AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE TO C TWO. THIS CHANGE WILL INTRODUCE MORE TRAFFIC NOISE AND ENDANGER KIDS ON THEIR WAY TO THE NEARBY SCHOOL. THESE HOMEOWNERS VALUED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND HOMES AND ONLY WISH TO CONTINUE LIVING IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THEY MOVED INTO THANK YOU CHAIR. UH, NEXT WE HAVE LIVE CALLERS. THESE ARE LIVE CALLERS THAT HAVE ASKED TO BE CALLED ON BOTH CASES SINCE CASE, SINCE THE CASES WILL BE, UM, TREATED SEPARATELY, WE CAN, UM, GIVE 'EM TWO MINUTES NOW AND THEN GIVE THEM TWO MINUTES ON THE OTHER CASE SO THEY CAN FORMULATE THEIR THOUGHTS APPROPRIATELY. IS THAT OKAY WITH YOU? OKAY. OKAY. I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE FIRST PERSON ON THE LINE FOR THIS ITEM. UH, STEVE , ARE YOU THERE? YES. HELLO. ALL RIGHT, GO AHEAD SIR. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONERS. UH, SLIDE FOUR PLEASE. MICHAEL. UH, FROM THE PRESENTATION I SENT IN, UM, UH, I WOULD JUST WANNA SAY REAL QUICK, EVERYONE THAT I HEARD IN FAVOR, UH, WITH THE POSSIBLE EXCEPTION OF THE ONE IN SPANISH, LIVES ON THE FAR SIDE OF NEW BRAUNFELS. SO QUITE A WAYS AWAY FROM WHERE WE'RE AT. UM, RIGHT HERE ACROSS WALTERS, THERE IS A HARD CORNER C TWO PROPERTY, UH, AND PLENTY MORE C TWO. ALL OF IT IS VACANT. FIVE BLOCKS AND MORE VACANT, READY TO BE DEVELOPED ACROSS I 35 MORE VAC C TWO, RIGHT BETWEEN TWO DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS. THERE'S JUST SIMPLY NO NEED FOR MORE C TWO IN THE AREA. THIS REQUEST IS NOT HIGHEST USE. C TWO HERE WILL BE THE GREATEST DISUSE. THERE IS INCREDIBLE NEED FOR HOUSING IN THIS CITY. EVEN THE LOSS OF ONE HOME IS TOO MUCH IN THIS ECONOMIC CLIMATE. SLIDE FIVE, PLEASE. SURE, THIS IS A DIFFICULT PROPERTY, BUT IT WILL REMAIN DIFFICULT IF NOT MARKETED BETTER THAN THIS. CLEAN IT UP ACTUALLY LIST THE PROPERTY. FROST BANK COULD ACTIVELY DO WORK TO FIND DEVELOPMENT THAT FITS BOTH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND CORNER. IS OUR HOMETOWN BANK NOT PART OF SA TOMORROW? ARE THEY NOT COMMITTED TO EQUITY? ARE THEY ONLY COMMITTED TO MAXIMIZING RETURNS? ARE THEY NOT GOING TO PROTECT CLMA JACKSON'S MEMORY? SLIDE SIX, PLEASE. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THEY DID NOT APPROVE THE NC BASED ZONING NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY. UM, THEY VOTED, UH, THIS COMMISSION ONLY VOTED FOR CONDITIONAL USE. UH, IF WE NEEDED EVERY HARD CORNER TO BC TWO, WE COULD GET A COMPUTER TO DO THAT. DON'T WORRY ABOUT TRAFFIC AND SAFETY AND SCHOOL CHILDREN AND NEIGHBORS. JUST CHANGE ALL THE HARD CORNERS. THIS COMMISSION IS HERE TO RECOMMEND A HUMAN SOLUTION THAT FITS FUTURE CITY NEEDS. THIS COMMISSION HELPS GUIDE US CLOSER TO BEING AN EQUITABLE CITY. HOW CAN EQUITY EVEN BE MEASURED WHEN NOTHING SPECIFIC IS PROPOSED? IN THIS CASE, PLEASE RECOMMEND AND VOTE FOR DENIAL. DON'T HAND FROST A BLANK CHECK. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, HOLD JUST ONE MOMENT, THIS I CAN SEE IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU. AND ALSO, LET ME JUST, UH, ASK A QUESTION OF, UM, STAFF AND THE COMMISSIONERS. I SAID YES TO, UM, MS. KATT JUST A, A MINUTE AGO, BUT I WAS THINKING, UM, WHAT IF WE JUST GAVE THEM THE OPTION, IF THEY WANTED TO SPEAK LONGER NOW OR IF THEY WANTED TO SPEAK ON BOTH AS A, UH, JUST TO GIVE THEM EACH AN OPTION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW THE COMMISSIONERS FEEL ABOUT THAT. OKAY. WELL, IN THAT CASE, I, I THINK THIS WE'LL JUST GIVE EVERY, UH, CALLER IF THEY WANNA, UH, TO CALL THEM BACK AGAIN FOR THE NEXT CASE OR IF THEY'D LIKE TO TAKE, UH, FOUR MINUTES AND JUST SPEAK FOR BOTH OF THE CASES NOW, IF THAT'S OKAY. MM-HMM. . UM, SO IF YOU HAD ANYTHING ELSE YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, SIR. UM, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE PRETTY MUCH HIT ALL YOUR POINTS NOW, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING ELSE, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOW, MR. UH, S TIG I'LL, I'LL, I'LL WAIT AND MAKE 'EM ON THE OTHER CASE. SO YOU DO WANNA CALL BACK? I'LL QUESTION. OKAY. OKAY. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WE'LL HEAR BACK FROM YOU AGAIN IN JUST A FEW MINUTES. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY. [03:35:01] ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE HAVE ROSE HILL. UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM. GO AHEAD. OKAY. CAN, MY NAME IS ROSE HILL, PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT ALLIANCE REGARDING THE ZONING CASE. THE GOVERNMENT HILL IS IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CASE TO SPEAK TO COMMERCIAL. THIS IS THREE OUT OF FOUR, UH, CORNERS THAT ARE ALREADY COMMERCIAL. THIS AREA IS TOO CLOSE TO, FOR HOMES TO BE, TO BE PRODUCED THERE ON I 35, DANGEROUS FOR THE CHILDREN OF PERSING ELEMENTARY. OUR G H A MASTER PLAN OF, UH, APRIL OF 2010 INCLUDES MIXED USE C TWO COMMERCIAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS GROWTH THE WALTER STREET CORRIDOR. FOR MANY THAT DO NOT KNOW, FORMED A REVITALATION COMMITTEE IN APRIL OF 2010. AND THESE STUDIES INCLUDED OUR G H A MASTER PLAN CREATED A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY SENSE, A PLACE, AND A TOWN WHERE THE NEIGHBORS COULD GATHER NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR JOB. AN AMENITIES QUADRANT WAS IN WAS ENVISIONED AS MIXED USE TO INCLUDE COMMERCIAL. THE ING SCHOOL CLOSE BY CREATES A DANGER AND IN ABANDONED LOTS FOR CHILDREN GOING TO SCHOOL. HOUSING HAS BEEN A MAJOR CONCERN IN THE NEXT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS. ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROJECT WILL BE HOUSING WITH RETAIL STORES. IT IS IMPORTANT WE ACKNOWLEDGE OUR COMMUNITY AS FRIENDLY AND WELCOMING TO ALL RESIDENTS BUSINESSES AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT ALONG WALL STREET CORRIDOR. IT IS IMPORTANT FOR RESIDENTS TO BE KEY PLAYERS AT THE TABLE, BUT WE CANNOT CONTINUE TO SAY NO TO DEVELOPMENT WHEN RESIDENTS IN 2010 WORKED SO HARD ON THE WEST, ON THE WALTER STREET CORRIDOR PLAN OF WHAT THE FUTURE MIGHT HOLD FOR WALTER STREET, SINCE IT IS THE ENTRANCE TO OUR MILITARY BASE. SO HERE WE ARE IN 2020. NOW IS A TIME WHEN WE MUST WORK TOGETHER. WE MUST COME TOGETHER TO ENHANCE THIS AREA AND SEE THAT THE SAME VISION AS IT WAS VOTED UPON BY THOSE RESIDENTS AND THE MILITARY AND CITY OFFICIALS THAT WORKED ON THIS PLAN IN APRIL OF 2020. I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT THERE'S ADDITIONAL, UH, FOUR OR FIVE MORE COMMERCIAL BUILDING, COMMERCIAL PRODUCT, UH, THINGS COMING IN INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, FOR THOSE, MANY OF THAT WERE, THAT WERE NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT HAPPENED HERE. THERE WAS A PROCESS AND A LONG TIME TURN WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. WHEN THE WALTER STREET CORRIDOR CAME, THAT REVITALIZATION COMMITTEE CAME AND THEY CAME TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING ASPECTS OF, OF EVERYTHING. THERE WAS COMMERCIAL ON THAT. THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A CLEANERS, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A, ON THE CORNER OF I 35, THERE WAS A, A, UM, OLD ICE HOUSE. SO ULTIMATELY, THAT CORNER RIGHT THERE IS COMMERCIAL. THERE'S THREE COMMERCIAL LOTS ON THE FAR FAR SIDE OF INTERSTATE 35. YOU HAVE, UH, YOU HAVE TACO BELL, YOU HAVE, UH, RIVER CITY WHISKEY, YOU HAVE MCDONALD'S, YOU HAVE AN ICE STATION. YOU HAVE, UH, A NEW LITTLE COFFEE SHOP THAT WILL BE COMING INTO AREA. AND SO THEREFORE, I AM ASKING THE NEIGHBORS TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT THAT WE ARE AGAINST THE RESIDENTS OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY RESPECT THE OPINION OF, OF THE RESIDENTS. SO WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO SAY NO TO THE RELEVANT BECAUSE SOMETHING'S GONNA COME IN THERE AND THEN IT'S GONNA BE TOO LATE FOR THEM TO HOLD ANYBODY ACCOUNTABLE. WE GOTTA WORK TOGETHER. THIS IS THE MAIN ENTRANCE. I WANNA REMIND SOMEONE. REMEMBER KELLY AIR FORCE BASE CLOSED. IF WE CONTINUE TO BE SO NEGATIVE TOWARD OUR MILITARY ENTRANCE, SUPPORT THEM, THEY CAN EASILY SHUT DOWN. GO AWAY TOO. WE DO NOT WANT THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS AS WELL. SO WE GOTTA TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, UH, OUR RESIDENTS, BUT WE ALSO GOTTA TAKE CONSIDERATION. OUR SMALL BUSINESSES ARE WE NOT TRYING TO SUPPORT OUR BUSINESSES. ALSO, THEY NEED US LIKE WE NEED THEM. THE RESIDENTS NEED THOSE BUSINESSES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES UP OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. WE GOTTA CONTINUE TO STOP LOOKING SO NEGATIVE AND PUTTING THE TUNNEL VISION ON. WE GOTTA MOVE IN THE ONE DIRECTION, AND IF WE'RE GONNA MOVE IN THE DIRECTION, WE GOTTA MOVE IN IT TOGETHER. I SAY IN THIS CASE, IN HEARING THIS, I RESPECT EVERYBODY'S OPINION, BUT THE OUTSIDE OPINIONS OF ALL THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T KNOW OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, THAT DON'T PAY TAXES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM WITH THAT BECAUSE IN, IN A LOT OF THINGS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE ARE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, THE BUSINESSES AND THE NEIGHBORS, AND NOT THE OUTSIDE IDENTITIES THAT DO NOT KNOW WHO, WHAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS ABOUT. I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I WHOLEHEARTEDLY RESPECT EVERYBODY'S OPINION, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE OF OUR COMMUNITY. WE CANNOT STAY THE WAY IT WAS 50 YEARS AGO. I WISH WE COULD. I WISH I WAS 20 YEARS OLD AGAIN, BUT I'M NOT. SO WE HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER. SO THEREFORE I AM IN FAVOR OF IT. I'M NOT AGAINST THE NEIGHBORS. I JUST HOPE THAT THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT MENTALITY OF TRYING TO BE, UH, TO BE PART OF THIS AND ALSO COME TO THE TABLE WITH AND BE KEY PLAYERS AND, UH, AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE SO THAT YOU CAN HAVE MORE OF A SAY SO AND YOU CAN HOLD ANY KIND OF A DEVELOPERS ACCOUNTABLE, BUT SOMETHING THE BEST YOU WILL GO THERE. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY. THANK YOU. UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. HILL? OKAY, [03:40:01] THANK YOU MS. HILL. OH, OH, YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR HER? OKAY. I'M SORRY. YES, MS. HILL, IF YOU'RE STILL THERE. UH, MS. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES HAS A QUESTION FOR YES, MA'AM. UH, AM I STILL ON MUTE? NO, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. UH, MS. HILL, THE, ON THE, ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR THAT, DID THAT INCLUDE ALL THAT THE HOUSING THAT'S DOWN IN LIKE EAST POINT AND THAT KIND OF THING? UH, FOR THE, THE REGARDING THE, UH, THE WALTER STREET CORRIDOR PLAN? YES. UHHUH. , YEAH. YES, IT, YES IT WAS. YES MA'AM. UH, IT INCLUDED ALL THAT AND INCLUDED, IT INCLUDED A VISION THAT THESE PEOPLE BACK IN 2010 WORKED ON. THERE WERE THREE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND I THINK I SENT THOSE TWO, I SENT A COUPLE OF PICTURES TO THE, UH, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN A LITTLE LATE, BUT I SENT IT TO Y'ALL SO THE COMMISSIONERS COULD SEE THIS. THERE WERE A, A, A GREAT DEAL OF PEOPLE THAT WORKED ON A VISION ON WHAT THEY FELT THAT COULD BE THERE IN THE FUTURE. THIS WAS BACK IN APRIL OF 2010. WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD'VE THOUGHT HERE IN 20 20 20? WE ARE COMING BACK NOW LOOKING AT THE VISION THAT THOSE PEOPLE WORKED SO HARD ON TO SEE WHAT THIS CORRIDOR WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE, THAT IT WAS GONNA BE CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL. AND, AND, AND HOUSING IS, IS A CONCERN. SO THEREFORE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE HOUSING ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT IS GOING TO BE, UH, TAKE CARE OF. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING FOR ABOUT HOUSING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN THE PRO TOOK OFF, WE TOOK OFF. WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO WORK ON BILL. AND THOSE FOUR CORNERS ARE DEFINITELY A PART OF WHAT THAT PLAN WORKED ON. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. HILL? OKAY. THANK YOU MS. HILL. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. THE NEXT CALLER WE HAVE IS FERNANDO LOZANO. ARE YOU THERE, MR. LOZANO? I AM. OKAY, GO AHEAD SIR. YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ZONING COMMISSION, SIR. UM, I KNOW YOU WANNA BE CALLED ON BOTH CASES, YOU HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING FOUR MINUTES, UH, ONE TIME OR BEING CALLED SEPARATELY FOR EACH CASE. WHAT WOULD YOU PREFER? WE'LL DO SEPARATELY. I'LL DO SEPARATELY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'LL BE FREE. ALRIGHT, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. HI, UH, MY NAME IS FERNANDO LOZANO AND MY PROPERTY IS, UH, 2 5 5 1 NORTH IH 35. SO I DO HAVE SOME FRONTAGE. MY PROPERTY IS ALREADY, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, AND EVEN THOUGH IT DOES LOOK A LITTLE BIT LIKE A HOUSE, IT'S NOT REALLY A HOUSE. IT IS OWN COMMERCIAL. AND, UM, UH, WE'RE DEFINITELY HAVING, YOU KNOW, SOME, SOME CHANGES THERE. BUT ANYWAY, UH, I'M ABOUT 30 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED, UH, T TWO REZONE CHANGE. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THAT FULLY SUPPORTED, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT, YOU KNOW, CLEANED UP AND FREE OF OVERGROWN BRUSH. UM, YOU KNOW, I'M ALL FOR, UM, HAVING MORE HOUSING, BUT I ONLY WANT HOUSING THAT, YOU KNOW, REFLECTS AND HAS SOME DIGNITY FOR PEOPLE. THOSE PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN ROUGH SHAPE. I WOULD NOT PUT MY WORST ENEMY, YOU KNOW, IF I HAD ONE, UH, ON THAT PROPERTY. UH, SO ANYWAY, I MEAN, UH, I'VE HAD PEOPLE, I'VE HAD HOMELESS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, SLEEP IN MY FRONT PORCH. I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT CLEANED UP. AND, YOU KNOW, ALSO IT'S A REAL ESTATE BROKER. I KNOW THE, UH, PROPOSAL ONLY REQUEST IS BEST FITTED FOR THAT PROPERTY. WE HAVE ALL THREE CORNERS ON I 35 HAVING, UM, ZONE COMMERCIAL. AND ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME, UM, HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, BEAUTIFUL AND WITH DIGNITY, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE. AND, AND, UH, NOT THIS, RIGHT NOW THAT IT'S EXISTING. I MEAN, EVERYTHING'S FALLING APART. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, THIS CORNER IS CERTAINLY NOT SUITED FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT. UH, PLEASE VOTE YES AND HELP US CLEAN IT UP. UH, WITH ALL THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD WITH, UM, A LOT OF NEIGHBORS, EVEN INCLUDING ON SOME OF THE 200, UH, SQUARE VICINITY, UH, THAT ARE EVEN AGAINST, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M VERY SURPRISED BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM HAVE, YOU KNOW, ARE RUNNING UNLICENSED BUSINESSES. UM, SOME ARE, YOU KNOW, AN OCCUPIED PROPERTIES, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT, YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY IT ALMOST LIKE SLUM LANDLORDS. UH, THEY EVEN HAVE TRASH IN THEIR BACKYARD. AND SO IF YOU VOTE YES, I FEEL LIKE THIS WILL CLEAN UP THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I, I'LL DEFINITELY KEEP IT. UM, UH, UH, I'LL KEEP IT BRIEF AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, PLEASE VOTE YES ON THIS. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. THE NEXT CALLER IS LORENZO ORIS. ARE YOU THERE MR. ORTIZ? YES, I AM. OKAY, GO AHEAD. YOU'RE [03:45:01] ADDRESSING THE ZONING. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME'S LOREN. SO I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 25 47 NORTH IX 35. UM, I GUESS, UH, I PURCHASED A PROPERTY AS A RESIDENTIAL 'CAUSE IT'S WASN'T A RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, ONE OF THE OLDEST COMMUNITIES IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. I AM ON THE FRONTAGE. SO MY FRONT YARD ACTUALLY, I HAVE THE VIEWS OF THE DOWNTOWN SKYLINE, AND THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY SOLD ME ON THE ACTUAL PROPERTY. UM, AS FAR AS C TWO, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE HARSH FOR THE ACTUAL COMMUNITY, BUT NOT ONLY THAT, BY EVENTUALLY JOINING THE TWO TOGETHER, IT'S A BIGGER FOOTPRINT THAN THE ACTUAL, UH, UH, SCHOOL THAT'S ONE BLOCK AWAY. ON TOP OF THAT, UM, WE, AS I'M GONNA CALL MYSELF PART OF THE 200 FOOT COMMUNITY FROM THE ACTUAL, UH, PETITION THAT'S, THAT'S BEING DONE, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO BOTH PARTIES TO, UH, TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. THE TRUE, UH, I GUESS UNKNOWN OF THE ACTUAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT ACTUALLY HAS A C TWO IS TOO HARSH. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WILLING TO COMPROMISE, BUT THERE'S NO COMPROMISE ON THEIR SIDE. UM, I ACTUALLY, UH, HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE, JUST, YOU KNOW, RIGHT BEFORE ME, MR. LOZANO, HE ACTUALLY HAS EVERYTHING TO GAIN DUE TO THE FACT THAT HE IS THE ACTUAL BROKER OF THE ACTUAL TWO PROPERTIES BEING SOLD. UM, UM, ONCE AGAIN, UM, I PUT SOME, UH, I GUESS PICTURES IF YOU CAN DO ME A FAVOR AND SHOW PICTURE NUMBER TWO. UH, PICTURE NUMBER TWO IS ACTUALLY MY HOUSE. PICTURE THREE TO, UH, 39 IS THE ACTUAL TRUE COMMUNITY. I KNOW THAT ROSE HILL, UH, UH, SAID THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, SHE CLAIMS THAT SHE'S, YOU KNOW, REACHES OUT. I I'VE OWNED THE PROPERTY GOING ON TWO YEARS. NOT ONCE HAS SHE EVER REACHED OUT TO ME, BUT THE PICTURES, THE SLIDES, IF YOU CAN JUST RUN THROUGH THE SLIDES. I JUST WANT Y'ALL TO SEE THAT'S THE TRUE COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, I GUESS WE'RE A COMMUNITY THAT IS UNITED. YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IN OPPOSITION AS FAR AS CHANGING, BUT THE C TWO IS A REAL HARSH CHANGE FOR THE COMMUNITY. PLEASE TURN IT DOWN, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. MR. GO AHEAD, MR. LOZANO. I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, UM, DID YOU WANT TO BE CALLED SEPARATELY FOR THE OTHER CASE OR DID YOU WANNA CONTINUE TO SPEAK, UH, OR FEES? I'D LIKE TO DO MY TWO MINUTES ON THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. ANYONE, UH, FOR QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR MR. ORTIZ? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. ORTIZ. OKAY. LIZ FRANKLIN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? I AM. LIZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO YOUR FOUR MINUTES NOW OR TWO MINUTES AND TWO MINUTES? NO, MA'AM, I'D LIKE TO TRY AND DO 20 MINUTES AND 20 MINUTES. NO, I'M TEASING. , I'M BACK. UH, NO, I'LL DO MY TWO MINUTES BECAUSE THEY, THEY'RE SEPARATE NUANCES, REALLY. OKAY. GO AHEAD MA'AM. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND, UH, DR. JONES WELCOME. YOU DON'T KNOW ME, BUT LET ME GO AHEAD AND TELL YOU WHO I AM. I NEVER, I, I WON'T SAY NEVER, BUT I RARELY COME IN, IN TO A CASE OUTSIDE MY OWN COMMUNITY. I LIVE NEXT DOOR AT FIVE 15 HAY STREET IN DITY HILL, UNLESS I'M INVITED AND I FEEL IT'S COMPELLING. I WAS THERE WITH THE QUICK TRIP I WAS THERE. I, I WATCHED FOLKS THAT WERE MARGINALIZED AND DISMISSED FROM O TWO OTHER GROUPS BE LEFT OUTTA CONVERSATIONS WITHIN 200 FEET. AND THAT WAS MY DECIDING FACTOR. SO LET ME GIVE YOU A LITTLE HISTORICAL BACKGROUND WITH REGARDS TO WALTERS STREET AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. I CAN APPRECIATE MR. WIND'S POSITION. THAT IS HIS DUTY, HIS FIDUCIARY DUTY IS TO GET THE HIGHEST DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR THE TRUST. OKAY? HE'S TIED HIMSELF TO A PROJECT IN THAT RATHER THAN PUTTING THE EXTRA WORK IN TO POSSIBLY PULL IN AN URBAN PLANNER AND SAY, OKAY, IF I SEPARATED MYSELF FROM THIS PROJECT FOR THE GOOD OF MY TRUST FOR THE GOOD OF MY CLIENT, WHAT COULD GO THERE? SO INSTEAD HE'S TAKEN A BLANKET APPROACH WITH THE C TWO. THIS IS LIZ'S OPINION WITH THE C TWO ON A PROJECT THAT MAYBE COULD BE SOMETHING WORKABLE. SO IN HISTORICAL CONTEXT TO FORT SAM AND THE SCHOOL. ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY ASKED LAST TIME WHETHER OR NOT SS A I S D OR FORT SAM REACHED OUT. I CAN CATEGORICALLY TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT HOW ARMY [03:50:01] PROTOCOL WORKS. THEY WOULD'VE COME IN IF THEY WERE PART, IF ZONING HAD INVITED THEM IN OR SOME ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS HAD INVITED THEM IN. BUT TO GET INTO THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING THAT'S A SQUABBLE, THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT. AND WE BOTH KNOW THAT POLITICALLY THEY DON'T DO IT. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAD NO ADVOCACY OTHER THAN THE 200, THE FOLKS IN THE 200 FEET FOR THE 450 PEOPLE. WHEN WALTERS WAS THE PRIMARY GATE, YOU CAME IN, DROPPED YOUR LAUNDRY OFF, CAME BACK OUT, AND GUESS WHERE YOU WENT HOME TO GOVERNMENT HILL. EVERYBODY WANTED TO LIVE THERE. OKAY. YOU PUT SOMETHING AS LARGE AS A C TWO WITH ZERO STIPULATIONS. THEY DON'T WANNA TALK TO ANYBODY IN THE 200 FEET BECAUSE IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THEIR NARRATIVE. THEIR NARRATIVE IS NOT WHEN THAT'S TWO MINUTES. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S JUST GONNA HAVE TO DO IT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. LET ME JUST CHECK TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS FOR MS. FRANKLIN? OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH MS. FRANKLIN. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT CALLER WE HAVE IS DORA PEREZ. ARE YOU THERE MS. PEREZ? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM. WOULD YOU LIKE TWO MINUTES ON THIS CASE AND TWO MINUTES ON THE NEXT, OR DO YOU WANT FOUR TOTAL MINUTES RIGHT NOW? NO, JUST TWO MINUTES. AND THEN I NEED MY SLIDE, UH, MAP 29 PUT UP PLEASE. OKAY, GO AHEAD MA'AM. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DORA BEES. I LIVE AT 7 25 SPAN MEYERS. MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE 200 FEET FROM THE ZONING PROPOSAL. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS CALM AND IT IS PEACEFUL AND IT IS FRIENDLY, AND THERE IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND A PARK ONE BLOCK OVER FROM THE PROPOSAL. I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW ONE PERSON SELLING THEIR PROPERTIES CAN DISRUPT 20 LIVES IN AND OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET ZONE. A C TWO ZONING IS NOT OKAY FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. NO TELLING WHAT TYPE OF UNKNOWN BUSINESS CAN COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE A STRIP MALL OR SOME SUPER GASOLINE STATION WITH MANY GAS PUMPS, DANGER, GAS FUMES, POLLUTING OUR, OUR OUR AIR WE BREATHE AND I'M BEING, US BEING SO CLOSE. UH, THE SAFETY OF OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ONLY 425 FEET AWAY IS UNACCEPTABLE. THERE IS A HIGHER NEED IN OUR CITY AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT IS C TWO COMMERCIAL. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS SO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR MULTI-HOME, SINGLE HOMES, FAMILY, APARTMENTS, EVEN CONDOS. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE TO A, TO A NC UH COM, A NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL OH ONE OFFICE DISTRICT OR A C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL, BUT NOT A C TWO. THESE ZONING CODES COULD, THESE ZONING CODES ARE NOT ACCEPT, ARE ACCEPTABLE AND COULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR ALL OF US. THE RED MARKS, IF YOU CAN SEE THEM ON YOUR MAP, THE RED MARKS ARE, ARE MY NEIGHBORS THAT ARE STRONGLY OPPOSED FROM THE C TWO COMMERCIAL ZONING. PLEASE DENY C TWO REZONING AND PLEASE SAVE, DON'T KILL OUR GOVERNMENT HILL, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LET ME CHECK REAL QUICK TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, . ALL RIGHT. OUR FINAL CALLER ON THIS ONE IS DET COLE. MS. COLE . YES. SAME QUESTION TO YOU, MA'AM. TWO MINUTES NOW OR FOUR MINUTES NOW. I WOULD, UH, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT I WOULD GET TWO MINUTES NOW. I'M AT TWO MINUTES WHEN WE TALK TO ABOUT THE MARTINEZ PROPERTY, PLEASE. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU. UH, HI Y'ALL. IT'S D COLE. I AM AT 1 0 5 RENO STREET, ONE BLOCK NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY. COULD I HAVE SLIDE ONE PLEASE? FOR, UH, FOR SOMETHING I WANNA JUST START WITH, AND I'LL JUST, THIS IS JUST A LITTLE ASIDE. UM, SOME MISINFORMATION WAS GIVEN BY A CALLER EARLIER, AND IF YOU REFER TO THE GOVERNMENT HILL MASTER PLAN, WHICH I THINK IS LIKE 150 PAGES OR SOMETHING, UM, AND SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE WALTERS WIDENING PLAN IT FOR THE WEST SIDE OF WALTERS WAS TO REMAIN COMPLETELY RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S WHY THEY DID NOT ALLOW ANY CURB CUTS FOR THE WEST SIDE OF WALTERS, WHICH IS THE, THE, THE PROPERTY THAT, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW. SO, TO CONTINUE WITH MY SCRIPT, UM, CASE NUMBER ONE 14, THE CL JACKSON TRUST PROPERTY MANAGED BY FROST BANK. LOOKING AT THE 200 FOOT MAP, THERE'S A LOT OF VESTED INTEREST IN THOSE GREEN CHECKS. OF THE FIVE CHECKS IN FAVOR OF THE CHANGE FROM R SIX TO C TWO, THE MARTINEZ PROPERTY CASE ONE 13 HAS TWO CHECKS. THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL REALTOR'S OFFICE REPRESENTING THE MARTINEZ PROPERTY HAS ONE CHECK. ONE CHECK IS A NARROW VACANT LOT, AND ONLY ONE CHECK IS A LONGTIME RESIDENT HOMEOWNER LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SEVEN NEIGHBORS STRONGLY OPPOSE ALONG WITH 30 HOMEOWNERS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT RADIUS. OVERWHELMINGLY IN OPPOSITION THOUGH FILING [03:55:01] SEPARATE C TWO REZONING APPLICATIONS WITH NO END USE BUSINESS OR BUYER. BOTH FROST BANK AND THE ONE 13 CASE APPLICANT HAVE ONLY PROPOSED ONE PROPERTY USE SITE PLAN, WHICH REQUIRES JOINING BOTH PROPERTIES FOR A TWO PLUS ACRE GAS STATION, FAST FOOD CONVENIENCE STORE. SHOEHORNING A HIGH TRAFFIC C TWO BUSINESS WHOSE MAIN ENTRANCES AND EXITS WOULD BE IN A SCHOOL ZONE, IS EVERYTHING. THE GOVERNMENT HILL MASTER PLAN WORKED TO PREVENT JIM STREET AND THE FOOTBRIDGE, WHICH IS NOW THE SAFEST EAST WEST PATH FOR KIDS WALKING TO AND FROM PERSHING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WOULD BE ELIMINATED, AND THIS BUSY C C TWO PARKING LOT WOULD BE THE KIDS CUT THROUGH A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY NIGHTMARE. CLMA JACKSON DIED AT 96 ON JANUARY 24TH, 20, UH, 2013 IN SAN ANTONIO. SHE LOVED HER FAMILY ABOVE ALL ELSE. CLEL WAS A TEACHER WITH A SAN ANTONIO INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR 50 YEARS. OVER THE YEARS, SHE WISELY INVESTED HER MODEST EARNINGS. SHE DONATED LAND TO FRIENDS TO HELP START A CHURCH AND GAVE LAND FOR JACKSON NATURE PARK ON THE OW CREEK IN WILSON COUNTY. AND GRATITUDE FOR HER. OUTSTANDING. OKAY. WOULD CLIMA JACKSON THINK C TWO IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY? PLEASE DENY. SEE TWO ZONING. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. THAT CONCLUDES THE LAST, UH, LIVE CALLER CHAIR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, WOULD, UM, MR. WYNN, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? YES. I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MARKET THE PROPERTY, UH, TO VARIOUS, UH, PARTIES FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY, UH, INTEREST IN RESIDENTIAL USE. UH, THE, THE ONLY COMMERCIAL USE, UH, MOST RECENTLY, UH, RESTAURANT, UH, TYPE, UH, FOOD DRINK ESTABLISHMENTS SUCH AS STARBUCKS HAVE BEEN ACQUIRED ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE SEEKING THIS, UH, ZONING TODAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, THEY, UH, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. I AM SORRY. COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES. MR. WYNN, UH, SEVERAL OF THE, OF THE NEIGHBORS SAID THAT, UH, YOU WERE, THAT YOU WERE UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE AS FAR AS GOING FROM C TWO DOWN TO C ONE. UH, DID YOU GIVE THEM AN EXPLANATION OR WAS THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THE SELLABILITY OR JUST WHAT? WELL, I HAVE NOT, UM, BEEN APPROACHED BY ANY OF THE NEIGHBORS PERSONALLY. UH, THEY MAY HAVE APPROACHED, UM, MS. MARTINEZ, UH OH, OKAY. FOR THAT PURPOSE. BUT, UH, IT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, BASED ON OUR, UH, APPRAISALS AND VALUATIONS OF THE PROPERTY, THAT C TWO WOULD BE THE BEST, UH, WAY TO PURSUE, UH, MARKETABILITY OF THE TRACK. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE REQUESTING C TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? THANKS. I, I'M SORRY IF THIS SEEMS OBVIOUS, BUT CAN WE JUST GET A CONFIRMATION? IS THIS THE EXACT SAME PROPERTY? THAT WAS THE QUICK TRIP, THE WHOLE THING. SO IT WAS THIS PROPERTY AND THE ONE TO THE NORTH THAT WAS, UM, ORIGINALLY REQUESTED AND CONSIDERED BY YOU GUYS BACK IN JANUARY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER JONES. UM, I'M SORRY, I DID HAVE A QUESTION. DID, WHO WAS COMMISSIONER IN JANUARY? WHAT WAS THAT? UM, DISTRICT TWO, UH, STAFF? WAS THAT, OH, IT WAS COMMISSIONER TOSIN FROM WHAT I REMEMBER. OKAY. OKAY. AND HE OR SHE VOTED TO SAY NO? THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. UM, I'M NOT HOPEFUL RECALL. CAN'T RECALL THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY HERE FOR THE MEETING. OH, YOU DON'T RECALL? OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS, UM, MAY I IN COMMISSIONER? MM-HMM. COMMISSIONER, YOU REMEMBER? YES. BECAUSE THE COMMISSIONER WAS NOT GOING TO BE HERE. HE, AT THAT TIME, HE HAD MISSED A COUPLE OF MEETINGS, BUT HIS COMMUNICATION WAS THAT HE WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT AT THAT TIME. [04:00:01] AND, UH, THAT WAS PART OF, I THINK, MY COMMENT ON THE RECORD. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I REMEMBER. IS THAT, IS THAT GOOD FOR YOU, COMMISSIONER JONES? THAT WE OKAY. YES. ALRIGHT, SO IT'S, SO IT, UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S YOUR TURN NOW, , UM, THIS, I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS AND EMAILS AND, UH, BACK AND FORTH EVEN TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WHAT THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S DESIRES ARE AND SEE WHO'S IN AND OUT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. APPARENTLY IT'S TWO OR THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS. UM, AND THE REASONING FOR THE DENIAL, THE REASONING TO MOVE AHEAD, UM, I HAVE HEARD THAT THE, FROM, FROM HER, UH, CHIEF OF STAFF, THAT THE PLANNING WAS ACTUALLY, UH, LIKE MS. ROSE HILL SAID THAT THERE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN INDUSTRIAL. UM, I CAN NEVER GET A GOOD FEEL OF WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MEETING EXCEPT THAT, WELL, THEY JUST DENIED IT. AND THE COUNCILWOMAN APPARENTLY WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, WITH THE CHANGE IN ZONING. I, I, I DON'T KNOW OF, OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS PRESENTED. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF PLUSES AND MINUSES. I AM NOT SURE HOW A GAS STATION OR A RESTAURANT OR A SHOPPING MALL DESTROYS THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET A GOOD EXPLANATION OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT CAN BE DETRIMENTAL IF IT'S SEPARATED TECHNICALLY FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW IT'S UNSIGHTLY, IT'S ON THE CORNER, IT LOOKS TERRIBLE. AND APPARENTLY THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OTHER OFFERS AS FAR AS HOUSING, UH, SOMEBODY WANTING TO BUILD THERE. IT IS NOT A LOT THAT I WOULD WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE. SO I AM RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE CHANGE IN ZONING. MR. GIBBONS. SECOND. SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UH, BY COMMISSIONER JONES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UM, NOW WE WILL OPEN UP FOR DISCUSSION. SO, UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM, SO HAVE, HAVING ONCE AGAIN SAT THROUGH A GREAT DEAL OF DEBATE REGARDING THIS PROPERTY. UM, ONE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO SELECTIVELY QUOTE THE COMMISSIONERS AND THROW THEIR WORDS BACK TO THEM IN DIFFERENT CONTEXTS, UH, WHEN ADVOCATING BEFORE THIS BODY, I DISLIKE IT. UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, WHILE I APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES' RECOMMENDATION, I CANNOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. UM, WHAT THIS SEEMS LIKE IS JUST A PLAIN OLD END RUN AROUND THE DECISION WE MADE PREVIOUSLY FIVE MONTHS AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A REPRESENTATION FROM THE TRUSTEE, IF THERE WAS A REPRESENTATION FROM A DEVELOPER WHO WAS PERHAPS UNDER CONTRACT WITH SOME EARNEST MONEY ON THIS PROJECT, THAT THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, A PLAN THAT WOULDN'T BE A GAS STATION, THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY SAID NO TO. UM, THAT MIGHT CHANGE MY PERSPECTIVE, BUT AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION. AND I RESPECT, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF STAFF. I RESPECT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE SUPPORTING IT, BUT, UM, I DO NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF COMING BACK, ASKING FOR, UH, TO USE A, A PHRASE, A LOADED GUN, AND THEN GETTING SOMETHING THAT WE DENIED PREVIOUSLY. SO I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. YES, I ECHO COMMISSIONER BRUCE DANTE'S COMMENTS, UM, WITH RESPECT TO, UM, YOU RESPECTING THE, UH, DISTRICT TWO COMMISSIONER'S RECOMMENDATION, HOWEVER, [04:05:01] UM, I, I BELIEVE THEY WERE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE. UM, EXCEPT PERHAPS MAYBE IN A BIT OF A MORE PRECARIOUS SITUATION. UM, I KNOW WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT WHO THE DEVELOPER IS. THAT'S NOT REALLY A LAND USE ISSUE, UH, WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF WE'RE GOING TO APPROVE SOMETHING. BUT I THINK THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LACK OF IDENTIFIED DEVELOPER AND THE FACT THAT THIS IS A SPECULATIVE ZONING AT BEST, THAT IS A CONCERN FOR ME BECAUSE THE, ASIDE FROM GAS STATION AND I, I DIDN'T LOOK UP ALL OF THE THINGS THAT ARE IN C TWO, BUT I DO KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, ONE THING THAT WE'VE, UM, HAD AN ISSUE WITH, AT LEAST IN MY DISTRICT, IS RESTAURANTS WITH OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWED IN C TWO. AND THAT IS, IS AN ISSUE. AND, AND IT, AND IT CAN BE VERY DISRUPTIVE, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A RESTAURANT THAT'S OPEN LATE AND SOLVES ALCOHOL CAN GET VERY LOUD. UM, ESPECIALLY SOUTH TOWN, THOSE AREAS, WE'VE HAD THOSE ISSUES. SO THAT'S A CONCERN FOR ME. UM, ADDITIONALLY, I THINK THE FACT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, HAS, HAS PROPOSED A COMPROMISE POSITION OF A C ONE OR AN NC THAT WOULD PROTECT AGAINST USES LIKE THAT OR USES THAT WOULD BE LIKE A GAS STATION. UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S WAS DONE IN, IN GOOD FAITH AND, UM, THAT THEY'RE RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL, BUT MAYBE JUST NOT SO INTENSE. UM, AND FINALLY, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, WHICH I BELIEVE IS, IS A HUGE ISSUE IN OUR, IN OUR COMMUNITY. NOT, NOT JUST, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE TERM OF, UH, SHORT-TERM RENTALS FOR MILITARY FOLKS, BUT ACTUAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY LIVE AND, AND, UM, AND RAISE THEIR FAMILIES. WHETHER IT'S NATURALLY OCCURRING AS THIS IS, OR IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S INCENTIVIZED AND INDUCED BY GOVERNMENT IN SOON AS I THINK WE HAVE TO PROTECT THAT. SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. MOTION. MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I, UH, ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF MY TWO COLLEAGUES. UM, AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED REALLY SINCE THE LAST TIME WE CONSIDERED THIS CASE. WHETHER IT'S SOMEWHAT OF MAYBE AN N RUN, UH, A WAY TO GET AROUND OUR PREVIOUS OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED GAS STATION ON THIS CORNER. WHETHER IT IS BECAUSE THERE ARE THREE OTHER CORNERS THAT ALREADY HAVE C TWO, I STILL FIND THAT THIS CORNER BUFFERING OR, OR, OR NEIGHBORING SUCH RESIDENTIAL USE. AND WITH THE SCHOOL NEARBY, JUST, UH, PUTTING IN ANY UNKNOWN TO USE THERE IS JUST SOMETHING I CANNOT SUPPORT. AND PREVIOUSLY WE HAD TALKED ABOUT QUICKTIME AND ALL OF THE, UH, OR QUICKTRIP, ALL OF THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE GONNA BE DISPLACED. UM, I CAN'T, AND GOOD CONSCIENCE NOW AFTER VOTING, NO ON THAT CASE, JUST VOTE FOR OR SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT IS SO, UH, JUST ANYTHING GOES AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I, I WON'T DO THAT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL AND THEN COMMISSIONER ROMERO. UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE CAN GO FIRST. HE HAD HIS HAND UP FIRST I WAS HEARING FROM LAST TIME, BUT THAT'S FINE. NO, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, GO FEEL FREE. GO AHEAD, , YOU'RE MUTED. SORRY. PROBABLY BETTER. OKAY. UH, I THANK YOU TO THE OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS WHO JUST SPOKE. I, I AGREE WITH WHAT THEY SAID. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THIS. I, I MADE A COUPLE TRIPS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I STILL FEEL THE SAME WAY. THIS WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, YEAH. AND IN SOME WAYS IT'S EVEN, IT'S WORSE THAN QUICK TRIP BECAUSE THEY WERE WILLING TO MAKE A LOT OF CONCESSIONS. IN MY OPINION, IT WASN'T ENOUGH. BUT NOW THIS IS A COMPLETE UNKNOWN. AND JUST TO ME, ONE OF THE BEST COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT DENIAL WOULD NOT STOP DEVELOPMENT, BUT APPROVAL TODAY ONLY STOPS NEIGHBORS FROM HAVING INPUT WHEN A DEVELOPER IS FOUND. AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS SO IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT COM IF WE APPROVE THIS AS A SPECULATIVE PROJECT, IT COMPLETELY TAKES THE NEIGHBORHOOD OUT OF BEING ABLE TO HAVE ANY INPUT. AND I WAS ALSO IMPRESSED BY THE NEIGHBORS SAYING THAT THEY WOULD BE FINE WITH NC OR C ONE OR SOME KIND OF OFFICE USE. SO, UM, I WILL, I WILL NOT SUPPORT AN APPROVAL ON THIS ONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, SO, SO AM I, AM I JUST, AM I CORRECT THAT STAFF IS, IS, IS FOR APPROVING USE, RIGHT? WE'RE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. Y YOU KNOW, I, I, I AM, I AM FOR COMMISSIONER JONES'S RECOMMENDATION HERE OF APPROVAL. UM, I, I REALLY THINK A, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES I'VE SIT HERE AND I LISTEN TO SOME OF MY, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF'S DONE ITS HOMEWORK AND STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND [04:10:01] THEY'RE ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE WILLING TO, TO, TO GIVE STAFF THAT, UM, THAT NOD SOMETIMES AND THEN NOT OTHERS. AND, AND I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. IN, IN HERE WE HAVE THE COMMISSIONER FROM THIS DISTRICT, UM, WHO, WHO HAS PROBABLY LOOKED INTO THIS MORE THAN ANY OF US, UH, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL. UM, WE HAVE STAFF, UM, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AND YET, UM, AND, AND YET IT SEEMS LIKE THE SENTIMENT ON THIS ONE IS, IS TO DENY, UM, I WAS FOR, UH, THE QUICKTRIP, UM, I AM FOR THIS PROJECT. UM, YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, I'LL SAY THE SAME THING I SAID DURING QUIKTRIP, I UNDERSTAND, UM, THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS. I DEFINITELY SYMPATHIZE WITH 'EM. AND THIS MAY NOT BE, YOU KNOW, THE PRETTIEST OR MOST DESIRABLE PROJECT TO HAVE ON THIS CORNER. UM, I PERSONALLY THOUGHT THE QUICKTRIP WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT HERE UM, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE HAVE OFFERED HERE, UM, COULD POTENTIALLY BE AS WELL. SO, UM, I WILL, UH, I RESPECT ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UM, UM, OPINIONS. UM, BUT I, I'M GONNA BE FOR THIS MOTION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER. WE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. SO, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THIS CASE AND THE, UH, PREVIOUS CASE WITH QUICKTRIP, I REALLY DON'T SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS BECAUSE AGAIN, YEAH, YOU HAVE REMINDED US DURING THE WORK SESSION, YOU KNOW, WHAT OUR ROLES ARE DURING THE MEETING AND WHAT OUR ROLES ARE AS COMMISSIONERS. IT'S ABOUT LAND USE, RIGHT? SO, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WHAT I SAID LAST TIME WAS, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T MIND COOK TRIP, BUT TO GO FROM AN R SIX TO A C TWO, IT'S STILL TOO ABRUPT. IT'S TOO ABRUPT FOR QUICKTRIP, AND IT'S TOO ABRUPT FOR WHAT, UH, WHAT THE FROST IS ASKING FOR NOW. SO, AGAIN, I, I RESPECT THE, THE OPINIONS OF MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, AND, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THE APPLICANT FEELS THAT THEY REALLY, REALLY HAVE A CASE, TAKE IT TO CITY HALL. TAKE IT TO CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU, MA'AM. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER LEE. UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, I THINK WE'VE DEMONIZED C TWO A LITTLE BIT TOO MUCH. THIS IS EXACTLY THE CORRECT LAND USE FOR A CORNER LOT THAT FACES, UH, A VERY ROBUST, VERY LARGE, UH, INTERSTATE HIGHWAY. I THINK, UH, WE ARE, UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT IN A TIME WARP, AND WE'VE GOT QUICK TRIP ON OUR MIND, AND WE DIDN'T, WE VOTED THAT DOWN. THIS IS NOT THAT CASE. THIS COULD BE A, UH, I MEAN, I THINK WE ALL LIVE AROUND A C TWO, AND I LIVE IN A SMALL, I LIVE IN AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD JUST LIKE THIS, AT FRONT'S, A VERY ROBUST, VERY LARGE HIGHWAY LIKE THIS. AND ON THE CORNER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, JUST ABOUT EVERY CORNER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS A C TWO. AND THEY LOOK LIKE THIS, A DUNKING DONUTS, A WHATABURGER, A PHOTOSHOP, A DENTIST, A UH, DAIRY QUEEN, WHICH IS ALWAYS SO CROWDED. AND YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IN THESE C TWOS? WE MEET EACH OTHER. WE GO DOWN TO THE DUNKING DONUTS, AND WE'RE ALL MEETING EACH OTHER BECAUSE WE'RE ALL FROM THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHAT A GREAT TIME TO MEET EACH OTHER, BECAUSE WE CAN'T MEET EACH OTHER, IT SEEMS IN OTHER WAYS, BUT WE DO. AND WE GO AND GRAB OUR COFFEE AND OUR DUNKING DONUTS, AND THEN WE MEET EACH OTHER WHEN WE GO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE ARE C TWOS. SO WE'RE DEMONIZING C TWO WAY TOO MUCH. WE'RE ALSO NOT CONSIDERING THE APPLICANT, THE PROPERTY OWNER, THE PERSON WHO OWNS THIS LOT, WHO HAS OWNED IT FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. IT IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A C TWO IN THIS LOCATION. AND IT IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO RESPECT THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THIS LANDOWNER AND ALLOW THAT C TWO TO HAPPEN. NOW, YOU HAD A CHOICE. YOU KNEW WHAT THE C TWO WAS MONTHS BACK. IN FACT, THEY WOULD'VE BENEFITED, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD'VE BENEFITED, THOSE IN THEIR HOMES WOULD'VE BENEFITED, AND THEY DENIED IT. THEY DIDN'T WANT IT. NOW THEY COME BACK AND THEY SAID THEY DON'T WANT THIS. THEY NEVER WANT IT. WE FIGHT THEM ALL THE TIME, AND I'M SO RELIEVED, AND IT'S A TALL GLASS OF WATER TO HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES COME ALONG AND START TO APPROVE THESE BUSINESSES AND COMMERCIAL ZONING CASES ALONG THIS QUARTER. WE JUST HAD ONE RECENTLY, AND SHE, SHE MADE THAT MOTION FOR AN APPROVAL. SO C TWOS ARE YOUR NEIGHBORS. THEY ARE YOUR [04:15:01] FRIENDS. THEY BRING YOU JOBS, THEY BRING YOU LIFE. AND I, I THINK THAT THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS, UH, LAND USE RIGHT HERE. AND, UM, I THINK WE'VE GOT QUICK TRIP ON OUR HEAD, AND I WISH WE'D ALL LOOK AT THIS AT A FRESH, IN A FRESH POINT OF VIEW. ELSE ABSTAINING. THANK YOU. THANK, OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. OKAY, AND ANYONE ELSE? OKAY. UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, I TAKE PAUSE AGAIN, UM, AS I DID, UH, THE LAST TIME. SO, UM, NOT THAT I'M AGAINST COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS, BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S A BUDDING DIRECTLY, A BUDDING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE WOULD BE, UH, NO REAL BUFFER. WE HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE DEVELOPER WILL BE, WHAT KIND OF C TWO IT WILL BE. IT COULD END UP BEING A GOOD, UM, COMPLIMENTARY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT HERE WE HAVE NO IDEA. AND THEN AGAIN, IT'S TAKING AWAY THE NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT WHEN WE ACTUALLY HAVE A DEFINED DEVELOPER AND A DEFINED, UH, DEVELOPMENT. SO I, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT, UH, THIS MOTION AT THIS TIME. OKAY. SO, UM, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL MADE BY COMMISSIONER JONES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. I THOUGHT I HAD COMMISSIONER GIBBONS MAKING THE SECOND, UH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. . COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? NO. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? UH, NO. COMMISSIONER? WE NO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO. AND CHAIR MCGEE? NO. MOTION FAILS. THREE TO SEVEN. BEFORE A NEW MOTION IS ENTERTAINED, WE NEED A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY ANYONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE ORIGINAL MOTION. AND IF NOT, UM, IT, IT AUTOMATICALLY CONTINUES, UH, FOR TWO WEEKS. ROMERO. MOTION TO RECONSIDER GREAT HOUSE. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER KATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. OH, YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE A AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. A MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. NOW WE NEED A NEW MOTION. MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. MADAM CHAIR? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE SITE TO BE C TWO. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. UH, THIS IS A POINT OF ORDER, UH, AND PERHAPS WE NEED SOME GUIDANCE HERE, BUT THAT'S THE SAME MOTION THAT JUST FAILED. SO THAT WOULD NOT BE A RECONSIDERATION. IS THAT CORRECT? STAFF? YOU MAY, YOU CAN MAKE THE SAME MOTION. UM, IT JUST MAY HAVE THE SAME END RESULT. SECOND, IT'LL DIE FOR LACK OF SECOND THEN. WELL, I'M, I'M, I I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA PROLONG IT BY, BY, BY, BY SECONDING THE MOTION, I SUPPOSE, BUT MAN, THIS, THIS IS JUST, THIS IS TOUGH WHEN THE, WHEN THE SITTING COMMISSIONER AND STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL, I FEEL LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE AN OVERWHELMING REASON, UM, TO DENY IT. BUT, BUT I, I'M NOT GONNA SECOND THE MOTION BECAUSE IT'S 5:37 PM AND, UM, AND WE KNOW WHERE THAT MOTION'S GONNA GO. OKAY. IF THERE'S NO SECOND, OKAY. THERE'S NO [04:20:01] SECOND STAFF MADAM CHAIR. AS THE PREVIOUS MOTION FAILED FOR LACK OF A SECOND, I MOVE FOR DENIAL. SECOND MCDANIEL. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UM, DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, DISCUSSION? ANYONE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, WELL, I UNDERSTAND THAT MY COLLEAGUES MAY VIEW THIS AS C TWO IS JUST GREAT. AND I AM, UH, IN SUPPORT OF SOME COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. AGAIN, WE CAN'T REMOVE THE GAS STATION USED FROM THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, AND THAT WAS A GREAT CONCERN TO ME, UH, LAST TIME. IN FACT, I, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE SERVICES REALLY BELONG IN A C THREE ZONING CATEGORY. BUT THAT SAID, UM, I'M LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY. I HAVE NO REASON TO KNOW ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THIS PROJECT AS THERE'S THIS PROJECT AS THERE'S POTENTIALLY NO, UH, CONTRACT COMING FORWARD TO EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT LAND USE MIGHT BE. SO IT'S HARD FOR ME TO JUST GIVE A BLANKET LAND USE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YEAH, YOU KNOW, I, UH, WHAT VOTED AGAINST THE, UH, REZONING BACK IN JANUARY AND, UH, I DON'T THINK ANYTHING HAS CHANGED. ACTUALLY THE, NOW WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO WILL BE THE DEVELOPER AND WHAT IS GOING TO GO THERE. SO I'M GOING TO KEEP THE SAME POSITION THAT I HAD BACK IN JANUARY. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMIN. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, UM, THE MOTION IS FOR DENIAL. UM, ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. I'M SORRY. WAS THERE SOMEBO? SOMEONE RAISED THEIR HAND. DID I MISS SOMETHING? OH, COMMISSIONER UH, GIBBONS. OKAY. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , UM, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN SITTING THERE VACANT AND DETERIORATING FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. I THINK THE APPLICANT WAS CLEAR THAT THEY CANNOT SELL IT AS A RESIDENTIAL. THEY, WE DENIED THAT FIRST CASE BASED ON THE, ON THE APPLICANT, NOT THE LAND USE. WE WERE BASING, WE WERE BASING IT ON QUICKTRIP. NOBODY WANTED IT. AND I THINK THAT WAS VERY CLEAR. GO BACK TO YOUR OWN COMMENTS. YOU'RE ALL SHAKING YOUR HEADS. NO, BUT I THINK IT WAS VERY CLEAR. THIS IS A COMMERCIAL SITE. WHEN YOU FRONT A A, A HIGHWAY LIKE THAT, NO RESIDENTIAL WILL EVER GO THERE. THAT'S GONE. THAT IS GONE. AND YOU MISS THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH PROTECTION, SECURITY, PAYING OFF THOSE, THOSE TENANTS THAT WERE THERE SO THEY COULD RELOCATE A $10,000 EACH. THEY LOST THAT. WE DID NOT GIVE THAT TO THEM. NOW THEY CAN'T SELL IT. THEY OWN THAT PROPERTY. WE DO NOT. THEY HAVE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS THAT COME BEFORE YOU AND CITY COUNCIL, WHICH I HOPE THEY DO AND MAKE THAT CHANGE. SO THIS CAN BE SOLD AND THE VIBRANCY THAT'S NEEDED IN JOBS AND SERVICES TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE SERVED. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD GETS ALL KINDS OF SERVICES ON THE BACKSIDE OF IT OVER OFF PEARL. AND I'M SURE YOU WERE ALL FOR ALL THE PEARL C TWOS AND C THREES AND MULTIFAMILIES THAT HAPPEN ON THE BACKSIDE OF GOVERNMENT HEALTH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, UH, GIBBONS, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, NO. COMMISSIONER KATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. FIVE AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN TO THREE. OKAY. EVERYBODY'S GOOD. WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE NEXT CASE THERE. OKAY. OKAY, MADAM CHAIR, WE'RE GOING BACK TO ITEM NUMBER SIX NOW. OKAY. [6. 20-4223 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700113 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District and "R-6 CD MLOD-3 MLR-2" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District with a Conditional Use for Multi-Family Dwellings not to exceed three units per acre or a total of 3 units to "C-2 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District on Lots 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10, Block 3, NCB 1178, located in the 2000 block of North Walters Street. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA-2020-11600028) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)] ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX AND R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS, NOT SIX C THREE UNITS PER ACRE OR [04:25:01] A TOTAL OF THREE UNITS TO C TWO. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME IN THE 2000 BLOCKS OF NORTH WALTER. THE CURRENT R SIX RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AS IT IS ADJACENT TO THE LARGE ROADWAYS OF NORTH WALTER STREET AND INTERSTATE 35. THE PROPOSED C TWO IS APPROPRIATE BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL REPRESENTS A CONTAINED COMMERCIAL BLOCK NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF TWO COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE COUNTS ARE 44 NOTICES MAILED 10 IN SUPPORT AID IN OPPOSITION. GOVERNMENT HILL IS IN SUPPORT. 14 OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA ARE IN FAVOR. AND 16 OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA ARE OPPOSED. MADAM CHAIR, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? MR. BATERS, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M HERE. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES, SIR. THANK YOU. WE'VE BEEN, UH, DILIGENTLY WASHING AND I CERTAINLY WISH THE, UH, COMMISSION HAD WAITED TO HEAR THE REST OF THE INFORMATION. UH, BEFORE TAKING A VOTE ON OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH. THE FIRST THING I HAVE TO SHARE WITH YOU IS WHO I REPRESENT IN THIS MATTER. AND SINCE THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH TALK OF THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, UH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE YOU THE FULL HISTORY. I'M HERE REPRESENTING SOMEONE WHO IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HIGHEST, UH, HONORS I'VE EVER HAD IN MY CAREER. MS. SARAH MARTINEZ. SHE CAME TO THIS COUNTRY WHEN SHE WAS 17 YEARS OLD FROM MEXICO. SHE EARNED HER US CITIZENSHIP. SHE WORKED IN THE MORNINGS AS A HOUSE PAINTER AND SHE WORKED IN THE EVENINGS AT TACO CABANA IN THE KITCHEN. SHE SAVED, SHE BOUGHT HER FIRST HOUSE IN THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD. SHE HAPPENS TO OWN THE HOUSE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS TRAP. SHE IS AFFECTED AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE YOU WILL HEAR TODAY. SHE BOUGHT THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR. SHE BOUGHT THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET. HER NEIGHBORS GREW TO TRUST HER. MANY OF THEM REFER HER AS THE ABUELA, THE GRANDMOTHER OF GOVERNMENT HILL. SHE IS OF AN AGE NOW WHERE SHE CANNOT BE A LANDLORD ANYMORE. SO PLEASE DON'T BE CONFUSED. YOU'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING. TODAY'S VOTE IS NOT A VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO SAVE THESE HOUSES. THEY ARE COMING DOWN WHETHER YOU VOTE YES OR NO, THEY ARE COMING DOWN. THE TENANTS WHO OCCUPIED THOSE HOUSES HAVE GOTTEN INTO OTHER HOUSING AND WE'LL HEAR A STATEMENT FROM ONE OF THEM IN JUST A MOMENT. PREVIOUSLY, MY CLIENT WAS APPROACHED WITH A PURCHASE OF HER PROPERTY FROM THE QT STORE. SHE WAS NOT REPRESENTED BY LEGAL COUNSEL. SHE WAS NOT REPRESENTED BY A BROKER. SHE SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE. WE ARE SO GRATEFUL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR SPEAKING OUT AND OPPOSING THIS BECAUSE IN THE MONTH THAT FOLLOWED, SHE WAS REFERRED TO LEGAL COUNSEL. YOURS TRULY. AND I'M HONORED TO REPRESENT HER PRO BONO AND EDUCATE HER ABOUT WHAT THAT CONTRACT WOULD'VE MEANT FOR HER IF IT HAD GONE THROUGH. SHE WAS NOT OFFERED THE BEST DEAL SHE CAN GET. BUT MY CLIENT DOESN'T BACK DOWN FROM CHALLENGES. IN FACT, ONE OF THE GREAT IRONIES OF THIS APPLICATION IS IN THE EIGHTIES SHE WAS DENIED A LOAN FROM CROSS BANK AND NOW HERE THEY ARE PARTNERING WITH HER AND FOLLOWING HER LEADERSHIP ON THIS PROPOSAL. IN ANY CASE, AFTER GIVING HER A LITTLE BIT OF EDUCATION AND CONTRACTS AND LAND USE AND WHAT BENEFITS PEOPLE GENERATIONALLY, HER DESIRE IS TO HOLD THE PROPERTY AND GROUND LEASES. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MISGUIDED TALK THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT SALE SALE HILL. THIS PROPERTY IS NOT FOR SALE, IT IS FOR LEASE. WE ARE SEEKING TO KEEP ECONOMIC PROSPERITY IN DISTRICT TWO AND NOT SELL IT OUT TO A PARENT CORPORATION OUT OF STATE. I HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU THAT I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH, AND AGAIN, I WANNA BE VERY RESPECTFUL OF YOUR TIME THIS LATE IN THE AFTERNOON. THE FIRST SLIDE IS WHAT YOU WERE SHOWN PREVIOUSLY, UH, WITH WHEN FROST BANK HAD A CHANCE TO PRESENT OUR OUR CONTEXT. I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION, THE DISTRICT TWO IS LANDLOCKED. UNLIKE SOME OF THE MORE PRIVILEGED DISTRICTS ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT CAN SIMPLY GO NORTH TO UNDEVELOPED FIELDS FOR THEIR COMMERCIAL ZONING. IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANYTHING NICE AND NEW NAME BRAND IN DISTRICT TWO, WE'RE LIMITED TO WHAT'S WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF OUR AREA. NEXT SLIDE SHOWS YOU THE ZONING IN CONTEXT. UH, YOU CAN SEE THE TWO TRACKS OUTLINED IN BOLD OVER TO THE RIGHT. IT'S COMMERCIAL OVER TO THE LEFT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS THE APPROPRIATE BUFFER BETWEEN COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL AREAS, AGAIN AT THE CORNER OF A MAJOR INTERSTATE THOROUGHFARE AND THE SEVEN LANE ARTERIAL ROAD. NEXT IS YOUR AERIAL SHOT. TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE CONTEXT, THIS IS BASED ON A TRAFFIC STUDY REGARDING THE NEXT SLIDE, INGRESS AND EGRESS MAJOR INTERSECTIONS. THE REASON THE FROST BANK AND THE SARAH MARTINEZ TRACK, UH, PROPERTIES [04:30:01] GO HAND IN HAND IS BECAUSE IT ALLOWS FOR CURB CUTS AND IT ALLOWS FOR SOMETHING EVEN MORE IMPORTANT. WE'LL SEE LATER TO GIVE MORE, WAY MORE THAN THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT PARKING LOT AND THE NEIGHBORS. YOU'LL SEE A GREEN SPACE AND WE'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A SECOND. NEXT IS BASED ON TRAFFIC STUDY PREVIOUSLY PAID FOR BY QT. WE'RE GRATEFUL THEY PAID FOR IT. MRS. MARTINEZ DIDN'T HAVE TO DISCUSSING WHERE TRAFFIC COMES FROM TO THE SITE. WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO DO SOMETHING HERE THAT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC. WE ARE PROPOSING TO DO SOMETHING HERE THAT WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE EXISTING TRAFFIC ON THIS SITE. NEXT IS A SCREENSHOT YOU MIGHT BE ALREADY FAMILIAR WITH. IT'S THE VIEW OF WALTER STREET FACING SOUTH. OVER TO THE RIGHT ARE THE SUBJECT PARCELS. THE NEXT UH, IS FACING WEST ON THE ACCESS ROAD TO I 35 FROST BANK. CLMA JACKSON PARCEL IS OVER THERE TO THE RIGHT HERE IS A CRUDE DIAGRAM. WE'RE GONNA GET INTO A MORE SPECIFIC ONE IN, IN THE NEXT ONE OF WHAT THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN IS. AND WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, WE'VE MADE ONE MODIFICATION AS OF THREE 15 YESTERDAY. THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UH, AS IT EXISTS NOW UNTIL 3:53 PM TODAY. AND SOMETIMES LIFE GIVES YOU UNFORESEEN BLESSINGS. I DID NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO SHARE WITH YOU THE SPECIFIC USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. THAT IS BECAUSE MRS. MARTINEZ AND FROST BANK HAVE BEEN IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH SEVERAL CONTENDERS. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND HAVE THE POOR WOMAN WHO SPEAKS ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE TAKE THE FIRST THING THAT GETS PASSED IN FRONT OF HER NOSE. WE'RE GONNA FIGHT FOR HER TO HAVE THE BEST OPPORTUNITY AND SHE'S GONNA BE THE OWNER AND SHE IS GOING TO PROTECT HER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT SHE'S BEEN A PART OF FOR 42 YEARS. WE HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER OF INTENT FROM VACCARO VENTURES, WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE OF STARBUCKS COFFEE IN THIS REGION. SO DRUM ROLL PLEASE. THE END USER IS STARBUCKS COFFEE UNDER A GROUND LEASE, A GROUND LEASE. MRS. MARTINEZ AND FROST BANK WILL BE THE OWNERS. I DID NOT PREVIOUSLY HAVE PERMISSION FROM THEM TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU UNTIL 3:53 PM WHEN WE RECEIVED THE EMAIL FROM W EIGHT LANDRY. IN THIS SITE PLAN, I WANNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE ACCOMMODATIONS WE HAVE MADE FOLLOWING OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I NEED TO DIGRESS FOR A MOMENT ON WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONSISTS OF. GOVERNMENT HILL IS INTERESTING AND WE'RE GRATEFUL BECAUSE WE HAVE ENGAGED CIVIC PARTICIPANTS, BUT THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT GROUPS WHO HOLD THEMSELVES OUT AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THERE'S NO H O A, ONLY ONE OF THOSE GROUPS IS WHO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO RECOGNIZES AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD CONTACT GROUP. SO THAT IS, WE HAVE WHO WE HAVE GONE THROUGH. WE SUBMITTED THIS APPLICATION IN APRIL, UH, RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC. AND OF COURSE THE ORDINARY ROUTINE OF ATTENDING A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND VISITING GOT THWARTED. NEVERTHELESS, DISTRICT TWO HAS BEEN VERY ACCOMMODATING IN SCHEDULING MEETINGS FOR US. AND THIS OFFICE HAS PERSONALLY REACHED OUT TO ALL THREE OF THE PURPORTED GOVERNMENT HILL GROUPS. WE'VE GOTTEN CALLS FROM ONE PERSON THAT SAYS, OH, THEY'RE NOT THE REAL PERSON IN CHARGE OF THAT GROUP. I AM, I DON'T KNOW. WE'VE TRIED TO ANSWER EVERY QUESTION AND IN ADDITION, PROBABLY THE MOST PRODUCTIVE, UM, AND MEANINGFUL CONVERSATION WE'VE HAD THE CHANCE TO HAVE IS A TELEPHONE CONFERENCE JUST WITH THE FOLKS WITHIN THE 200 FEET. SEVERAL OF THEM GOT THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO MUCH OF A FOLLOW UP BECAUSE I'M EMPTY HANDED UNTIL AGAIN, 3 53 TODAY AFTER NEARLY SIX WEEKS OF BEGGING FOR SOMEONE TO GIVE ME AN EXCEPTION TO THE CONFIDENTIALITY AND NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT OR SOMETHING, WHICH I FINALLY HAVE FOR YOU. AND COINCIDENTALLY, IT'S FROM OUR LEADING CONTENDER STARBUCKS COFFEE GOING DOWN THIS SLIDE, WHICH IS NOT THE NEXT ONE, BUT THE THIRD ONE, I WANNA SHOW WHAT HAS TRAUMATIZED SO MUCH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WITH GOOD REASON. THIS IS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED BY QT. TAKE A LOOK. THE BUILDING STRUCTURE IS CLOSEST TO THE HOUSES, WHICH I GUESS IS BETTER THAN HAVING GAS STATIONS. THE GAS PUMPS NEAR THE HOUSES, NO WONDER THEY'RE OPPOSED. CONTRAST THAT AGAIN WITH THE SLIDE ABOVE ON NOW, THE PROPOSED DEAL WITH MCCARROLL VENTURES, THE PARKING LOT AND GREEN SPACE I STILL WANT TO VISIT WITH Y'ALL ABOUT IS FURTHEST AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL. WE LISTENED TO NEIGHBORHOOD CONCERNS ABOUT THE DUMPSTER PLACEMENT. WE HEARD FROM FERNANDO LOZANO EARLIER WHO OWNS THE PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY. AND THIS MAP, IT'S IMMEDIATELY ABOVE IT. BUT THIS MAP IS FACING WEST, NOT NORTH. WE MOVED THE DUMPSTER BY HIM AND HE'S OKAY. IS HE A BROKER WHO REPRESENTS MRS. MARTINEZ? YES. UH, HE INTRODUCED US AND HE STANDS TO LOSE THE MOST BY THIS BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A SALE, THIS IS A GROUND LEASE, WHICH [04:35:01] MEANS HE DOES NOT GET A BIG GIANT COMMISSION. PLEASE DON'T OVERLOOK THAT. HERE HE HAS THE PARTY WITH THE MOST TO LOSE AND HE IS FOREGOING IT. I WANNA SCROLL DOWN PAST THESE SITE PLANS AND GIVE YOU A LOOK AT THIS MAP. AND I WANT TO ADDRESS A FEW OF THE CONCERNS YOU'VE HEARD ALREADY WITH THE MINUTE THAT I HAVE REMAINING ON MY TIME. WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT LOSING HOUSING IN THE AREA. TWO MONTHS FROM NOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE FOUR PROPERTIES OVER TO THE RIGHT ON WALTER STREET. UPRIGHT, PROPOSED 48 UNIT RESIDENTIAL COMPLEX. ARE WE LOSING SEVEN HOUSES? YES, YOU'LL BE GAINING 48 VERY SOON. AND THOSE NEIGHBORS WANT AMENITIES. WE'VE HEARD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE USER WHERE WE'LL BE LOUD, MUSIC AND DRINKING. I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN TO A STARBUCKS COFFEE. THEY PLAY JAZZ VERY SOFTLY AND THERE TENDS NOT TO BE, UH, ANY VIOLATIONS OF THE PIECE IN THAT CONTEXT. BUT TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN NOT ONLY DISINFORMATION, MISINFORMATION, AND CONFUSION ABOUT HOW TO COMMUNICATE THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S WISHES. THE REMAINING SLIDES BY PRESENTATION, WHICH I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT, ARE FROM THE FOLKS WHO GOT THE FORM AND FILLED IT OUT AND FROM SOME OF THOSE WHO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEIR VOICE COULD BE HEARD, BUT DIDN'T HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF TAKING TIME OFF FROM WORK TO CALL IN OR BE LIVE. PLEASE TAKE THESE INTO CONSIDERATION. I'M AVAILABLE WITH ANY QUESTIONS. THANK THANK YOU SIR. OKAY. UH, PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. SO I READ ALL OF THE LETTERS, UM, ON THE LAST CASE AND WE HAVE, UH, CALLERS AGAIN AND SOME VOICEMAILS. SO WE ARE GONNA PLAY THE VOICEMAILS NEXT. OKAY? YES. MY NAME IS STELLA ASHLEY AND I HAVE A HOUSE ON CARSON STREET. MY NUMBER IS TWO TEN THREE THREE SEVEN FOUR EIGHT SEVEN ZERO. AND I'M CALLING IN FAVOR OF CASE NUMBER 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 3. MS. MARTINEZ, UM, AT THE CORNER OF, UH, IH 35. UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS GOING ZONING. I FEEL THAT THERE IS NO INTEREST IN THE PROPERTY AS RESIDENTIAL AND FOR THE HOUSES TO SIT THERE AND DETERIORATE WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS THIS IS A GATEWAY INTO FORT SAM BEING COMMERCIAL, SOMETHING COULD BE BUILT THERE THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORS AND THE RESIDENTS. I ALSO FEEL PEOPLE FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS SHOULD NOT HAVE A SAY AS TO WHAT SHOULD BE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS HAPPENED WITH THE OTHER, UH, CASE. SOME OF THE PEOPLE VOTING KNOW A FEW YEARS AGO WAS FOR ALL OF PAN AM BEING COMMERCIAL. SO I AM IN FAVOR OF THIS CASE. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, THIS IS MARIA BLANCO. UH, MY NAME, UH, MY NAME IS MARIA BLANCO. I AM LIVING ON, UH, 1 0 9 AND I'VE BEEN ON THIS HOUSE FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS. AND, AND THIS HOUSE BELONGS TO, UH, MY FAMILY FOR 40 YEARS. SO I AM AGAINST 1 1 3 1 1 4. THAT'S CASE 1, 1 1 3. AND THE CASE 2 1 1 4. CASE NUMBER Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 1 4. HI, MY NAME IS MARTIN PEREZ AND I LIVE AT SEVEN TWENTY FIVE SANDMEYER. UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 863-6342. AND I DO NOT AGREE WITH BOTH PROPERTIES BEING COMBINED FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. UH, BUT I DO AGREE WITH THE COMP. I WILL AGREE WITH MAKING A COMPROMISE FOR C ONE. UH, AND THEY'RE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET ON WALTERS. THERE ARE PLENTY OF EMPTY VACANT LOTS UP FOR SALE. UH, YOU CAN PUT YOUR STUFF OVER THERE. IT'S ALREADY A BAD AREA FOR, UH, TRAFFIC AND IT'S GONNA GET WORSE [04:40:01] IF Y'ALL PUT ANY TYPE OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THERE. THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS WENDELL DAVIS, UH, 2 63 SPRINGWOOD CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO CASE ONE 13 AND ONE 14 ON BEHALF OF, UM, THE NEIGHBORS, UM, OPPOSING, AS SHOWN ON SLIDE TWO. UH, THIS IS ALSO IN OPPOSITION TO C TWO ON CASE ONE 14. UH, I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THIS SAME REQUEST FOR C TWO WAS, UH, BEING HEARD AGAIN SINCE IT WAS DENIED SIX MONTHS AGO. AND I THINK, UH, IF WE GO TO C UH, SLIDE THREE. WE ESTABLISHED, UH, SIX MONTHS AGO THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS A PRIORITY WITH THE CITY. AND THEN SLIDE FOUR SHOWS THE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IF C TWO IS APPROVED. IF C TWO IS APPROVED, THERE'LL BE A LOSS OF NINE AFFORDABLE UNITS. AND A C TWO USE ON TWO PLUS ACRES REALLY OVERWHELMS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WE DISCUSSED SIX MONTHS AGO. AND, UH, WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO PERSHING PARK AND PERSHING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THEY ARE EACH JUST A LITTLE OVER TWO ACRES. SO, UH, WE THINK THAT, UH, C TWO ON THE TWO PLUS ACRES, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE SEPARATE PROPERTIES, THAT IS TOO MUCH. C TWO. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WANTS TO ELIMINATE THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS OF A HIGHWAY BUSINESS THAT COULD HAVE POSSIBLE 24 HOUR OPERATION AND, UH, UM, CREATE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC, BUT A REZONING OF A LOT DEPTH, MAYBE A HUNDRED TO 120 FEET ALONG RENO TO R PLEX. ONE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OR C ONE WOULD BE MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON BOTH C ON BOTH, UH, CASES ONE 13 AND ONE 14. SO WE RECOMMEND, UH, DENIAL OF C TWO BECAUSE OF THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. BUT, UM, FOR LESSER, HELLO, MY NAME IS KAYLIN JAMES. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (956) 404-1764. I LIVE IN 1800 EAST CARSON STREET, 178 STREET. FROM THE PROPERTY OF THE C TWO PROPOSAL. I'M CALLING ABOUT CASE NUMBER 1 1 3. WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE FIVE MONTHS AGO, EXCEPT LAST TIME WE KNEW WHAT WAS GOING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. A GAS STATION. WELL, THE LAWYERS ALWAYS COME UP WITH SOME CLEVER TRICKS TO GET THEIR WAY. THIS TIME THEY FILED THE SAME PAPERWORK, THE SAME C TWO PROPOSAL THAT Y'ALL DENIED THE LAST TIME. JUST THE NEW APPLICANT NAME. THE NEIGHBORS HAVE BEEN LEFT IN THE DARK THIS RECENT, WITH THIS RECENT APPLICATION. MR. STEVE TI HAS SET UP EVERY VIDEO MEETING, EVERY, UH, EVERY PHONE CALL MEETING WITH MR. BATERS. I'M SURE MR. BATERS CLAIMS HE HAS REACHED OUT TO US. HE HAS NOT. WHAT A NICE GUY HE IS SINCE, UH, TAKING CREDIT FOR REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY WHEN ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS KNOW STEVE SIEGE, THAT ALL OF THE REACHING OUT AND BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, MR. BATERS STILL WON'T TELL US WHAT IS GOING IN THAT PROPERTY AND HIDES BEHIND CONFIDENTIALLY THE CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS. JUST LIKE MOST ALL LAWYERS DO, MR. BATERS IS PROPOSING A GROUND LEASE FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH MEANS ANYTHING INCLUDING A GAS STATION CAN GO THERE. HIDDEN BEHIND LEASE AGREEMENTS AND A CHAIN OF PAPERWORK. MR. BATERS GETS WHAT HE WANTS. WHAT'S FRUSTRATING IS HE THINKS WE'RE DUMB ENOUGH TO BEHAVE BY HIS JARGON, HIS LEGAL JARGON, AND ALL OF HIS LEGAL PAPERWORK. WHAT'S EVEN MORE FRUSTRATING IS HE DIDN'T EVEN LISTEN TO THE ZONING COMMISSION FIVE MONTHS AGO WHEN THEY SAID NO FEE TO. I ASK THAT YOU DENY THIS C TWO PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT IS TOO CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL. LIKE YOU HAVE SAID. HI, MY NAME IS DIANA RON HILL. MY ADDRESS IS THREE 14 . PHONE NUMBER CODE (210) 363-2050 REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2020 DASH OH SEVEN I FROM THE C TWO COMMERCIAL RE PROPOSAL AND IS ALSO ONLY 58 FEET FROM MY CHILDHOOD HOME WHERE MY SISTER AND MY BROTHER-IN-LAW LIVE NOW AND 300 AND 133 FEET FROM MY BROTHER'S PROPERTY. I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR [04:45:01] 50 PLUS YEARS WHERE I HAVE BORN, RAISED, AND ALSO RAISED MY FAMILY. AND WHERE I PLAN TO LIVE MY RETIREMENT YEARS, I'M OPPOSED TO SEE TWO COMMERCIAL REZONING PROPOSAL. IT SENDS ME TO THINK WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS WILL COME INTO THIS QUIET AND PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISRUPT IT. I WILL JOIN AND OPPOSE WITH THE NEIGHBORS WHO WILL BE AFFECTED IN THE 200 RANGE. PLEASE DENY THIS REZONING PROPOSAL. DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. HELLO, MY NAME IS GREGORY SMITH. I LIVE AT NINE 18 WEST BERRY AVENUE IN DEACON HILL, SAN ANTONIO. I'M, UH, CALLING, UH, THE, THE ZONING COMMISSION CONCERNING THE ZONING CASES. ONE 13 AND ONE 14. UH, ABOUT REZONING IT AS C TWO THERE. I RENT, I HAVE RENTALS HERE IN BEACON HILL AND WHEN THEY COME OPEN THAT PEOPLE WANNA RENT THEM, UH, THEY DON'T WANNA RENT THEM IF THERE'S GONNA BE A GAS STATION OR A STRIP MALL BESIDE THEM. I HAVE HOU A HOUSE IN CASTLE HILLS. UM, I'M TOTALLY AGAINST, UH, YOU REZONING THIS. UH, I THINK YOU SHOULD NOT BE DESTROYING AN OLD NEIGHBORHOOD WITH, UH, UH, A GAS STATION OR A STRIP MALL OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. I THINK, UH, MULTI-UNIT HOUSING WOULD BE GREAT. MORE APARTMENTS OR MORE HOUSES THAT ARE RENTAL THAT ARE, THAT COULD BE RENTED WOULD BE VERY GOOD. UH, THAT'S REALLY WHAT'S NEEDED WITHIN THE CITY. THERE'S REALLY, IT'S PLEASE DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL. UM, I, I I AM, UH, I THINK, UH, THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE HORRIBLE FOR PERSHING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ZONE. UM, THERE'S ALREADY SIX VACANT BLOCKS ACROSS, UH, WALTERS THAT, UH, OF C TWO. UH, THE, UH, ZONING SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL. IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, YOU'RE GONNA BE KNOCKING DOWN HOUSES AND DISPLACING PEOPLE. IT, IT JUST SHOULD NOT BE DONE. UH, THERE ARE OTHER PLACES, LIKE I SAID, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET, IT'S ALREADY ZONED. THEY COULD, THEY COULD BUILD OVER THERE IF THAT'S WHAT THEY NEED. UH, AGAIN, I'M A LANDLORD IN BEACON HILL. UH, I HAVE NO PROBLEM RENTING, UH, PROPERTIES. UH, I I'M TOTALLY AGAINST REZONING ONE 13 AND ONE 14. UM, UM, LET'S SEE. THERE'S TOO MANY KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S GONNA ADD TRAFFIC TO IT, UH, FOR THE FOUR CHILDREN AT PERSIAN. MY NAME'S JOSE S I LIVE AT 25 39 NORTH INTERSTATE 35, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 8. I AM IN OPPOSITION OR AGAINST, UH, TO CASE NUMBER 1 1 3 AND 1 1 4. I DO NOT WANT C TWO COMMERCIAL MIXED USE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE 1984. I WAS 12 YEARS OLD WHEN I MOVED IN. I'M 30, UH, SHOOT, I'M 48 YEARS OLD ALREADY. AND I LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN HERE FOREVER. WE CANNOT HAVE THAT KIND OF TRAFFIC DESTROY OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AGAIN, I AM IN OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER 1 1 3 AND ONE ONE FOUR. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 421-8269. I ALSO, UH, AM MENTIONING THAT THIS IS FOR MY SECOND ADDRESS, WHICH IS 25 43 NORTH INTERSTATE 35 7 8 2 0 8. I AM WITHIN 200 FEET. I WILL CALL AGAIN TO SPECIFY IT ON THAT ADDRESS. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MARIO RECONDO. MY ADDRESS IS 6 0 1 SANDMEYER STREET, SEVEN EIGHT TWO ZERO EIGHT. UH, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (619) 246-8981. AND I'M CALLING TO LEAVE A MESSAGE, UH, TO SHOW MY OPPOSITION TO C TWO REZONING, UH, CASE NUMBERS ONE 13 AND ONE, UH, 14. UM, OUR ENTIRE FAMILY IS DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO C TWO REZONING OF THE AREA. WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE GENERATIONS OF OUR FAMILY, UH, LAST NAME MACONDO AND ALSO BELTON THAT HAVE LIVED ON THE PROPERTY. AND WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL, UM, GENERATIONS OF RELATIVES THAT HAVE LIVED IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF GOVERNMENT HEALTH. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY APPROACHED TO SEE ZONING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. UH, YES. HELLO, MY NAME IS STACY SCHWAN. UM, I LIVE AT TWO OH THREE RADIANCE, AND MY PHONE NUMBER'S (512) 332-6779. I'M CALLING IN OPPOSITION TO THE [04:50:01] ZONING CHANGE IN CASE NUMBER ONE 13. SO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OF SMALL HOMES SHOULD REMAIN RESIDENTIAL INSERTING C TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY WILL BEGIN A DOMINO EFFECT THAT WILL WILL RESULT IN TRAFFIC NOISE AND ALLOW GAS STATIONS WITH THE DANGEROUS SKIS THEY BRING. PLEASE THINK OF THESE SMALL HOMEOWNERS AND GIVE THEM THE SAME CONSIDERATION THAT RICH NEIGHBORHOODS GET. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW WE'RE GONNA PATCH IN OUR LIVE CALLERS. STEVE , ARE YOU THERE? HELLO, MR. BURKE, ARE YOU THERE? MR. BE, ARE YOU THERE? YES, YES, I AM. HELLO? YES, SIR. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, UH, MICHAEL, CAN YOU BRING UP SLIDE 11? HOPEFULLY YOU CAN BRING UP SLIDE 11 OF MY PRESENTATION. UM, SO SLIDE 11 SHOULD SHOW, HOLD ON, STEVE. WE'RE TRYING TO PULL UP THE POWERPOINT. IT'S, UM, SO HOLD ON A SECOND. WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES WITH THE POWERPOINT. OKAY. ARE WE STILL WAITING? YES. HOLD ON A SECOND. WE'RE HAVING TO, UH, REBOOT ONE OF OUR SYSTEMS TO GET THE POWERPOINT UP. OKAY. WE ARE ALMOST THERE. ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND START. OKAY. SO SLIDE 11 WAS THE ONE I WANTED TO SEE AND THAT, THAT SHOULD SHOW A NEIGHBOR PROPOSED IDEA. UM, THE, UH, THIS, UM, WAS SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO SOMETHING, UH, THAT WE DISCUSSED ON THE PHONE WITH MR. BATTERS. UM, IT WE'RE NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS NEED TO GO AWAY. UM, THE, NOW THAT WE'RE JUST, UH, HOURS AND MINUTES AGO, WE'RE STARTING TO TALK ABOUT A SPECIFIC APPLICATION. DO THEY NEED, UH, 2.2 ACRES? UH, DO THEY, DO THEY NEED TO TAKE THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY? UM, DO THEY EVEN NEED C TWO? I, I DON'T KNOW THAT A STARBUCKS NEEDS C TWO. UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, THAT 1.5 ACRES WOULDN'T BE GREAT FOR THEM. UM, I, AND I THINK THEY COULD LEAVE A HUNDRED FOOT, UH, ZONING BUFFER. UH, THAT'S RESIDENTIAL ON BOTH EDGAR AND RENO. UH, I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE DONE WITH A SPLIT ZONING AND, UH, THAT IF, IF THERE IS SOME PARTICULAR THING THAT THEY NEED ABOUT C TWO, THEN WE SHOULD BE DISCUSSING C ONE WITH CONDITIONAL USES. UM, SO TH THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED. UM, UH, AND I REALIZE MR. BATTERS HAD A LAST MINUTE THING HERE, BUT HE, HE KNEW, HE KNEW ALL ABOUT THIS. WE DISCUSSED IT, UH, A WEEK AGO, AND HE SHOULD HAVE HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UH, THE STARBUCKS PEOPLE, I WOULD THINK. UM, SO, UM, THAT, THAT IS ONE THING I, UH, HE SAID THEY'RE JUST USING, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE BLINKING, BUT I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING I, I CAN HEAR. BUT, UM, HO HOLD, HOLD JUST ONE MOMENT. LET ME MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT HAVING TOUGH TECHNICAL. IS THERE ANY COMMISSIONER WHO ELSE CAN'T HEAR? IS, UH, IS EVERYBODY ELSE HERE? UM, THEY'RE HEARING, SO MAYBE SOMETHING HAPPENED WITH YOU COMMISSIONER BUSMAN. UM, I DON'T KNOW. UM, CAN YOU SOMEBODY FROM STAFF CALL HIM BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE HE'S HAVING [04:55:01] TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES? WELL, UH, WE'LL TRY TO LOG OFF AND LOG ON. OKAY. YEAH, THAT WOULD WORK. TRY THAT. THANK, THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . OKAY. I'M SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOU. UH, MR. SIG, UH, UH, GO AHEAD AND, UH, FINISH SOME, MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. UM, WELL, YES, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT, UM, I HOPE YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT I THINK THERE ARE WAYS, UM, TO NOT HAVE AN ABRUPT ZONING, UH, C TWO NEXT TO R SIX. UH, AND, AND, UM, THAT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED. UM, AND, AND ALSO I, YOU KNOW, I, I I KNOW THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE DEVELOPERS GET A FAIR CHANCE AND EVERYONE GETS OUR TWO MINUTES, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS CITY IN SEVERAL INITIATIVES, SA TOMORROW AND SA CLIMATE READY ARE COMMITTED TO EQUITY, NOT EQUALITY. SO JUST HANDING OUT C TWO TO EVERY DEVELOPER, I MEAN, SHOULDN'T WE REALLY? OKAY. SHOULDN'T WE LOOK AT IT HARDER? OKAY. LET'S, UH, LET ME, UH, SEE IF ANYONE HAS, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO, UH, MY, I I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU. SO WOULD YOU BE, SO ARE YOU WILLING TO, UH, IF THE, THE, UM, THE APPLICANT IS STILL WILLING TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS, WOULD, SO ARE Y'ALL STILL LIKE TO ENTERTAIN MORE INFORMATION AND TO WORK TOGETHER IF THAT'S AN OPTION? IS THAT STILL ON THE TABLE? YES, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND REALLY WE ALWAYS HAVE WHEN WE, I DISCUSSED THIS WITH TRUE PRETTY FROM QUICKTRIP, AND HE FLATLY REFUSED ANYTHING, ANY SMALLER SITE PLAN. I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE ALWAYS, THAT'S GOOD. JUST WANT TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS RESIDENTIAL. I JUST NEEDED THE MR, I JUST NEEDED THE, YES, THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY QUICK QUESTION. I'M JUST GONNA CHECK REAL QUICK TO SEE IF ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS, UH, QUESTIONS FOR MR. UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? AND I APOLOGIZE, MADAM CHAIR, I, UM, HAD TO LOG OUT AND LOG BACK IN AGAIN AND THEN HAD ANOTHER TECHNICAL ISSUE. BUT, UH, DID YOU, UH, AND IF THIS HAS BEEN ASKED, I APOLOGIZE. UM, MR. VEI, WOULD YOU HAVE AN ISSUE GENERALLY WITH C ONE IF THAT WERE AVAILABLE? NO, I MEAN, THE USE, THE USES FOR C ONE JUST LOOKED A LOT MORE APPROPRIATE. UM, YES. NO, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A, I PERSONALLY DON'T HAVE A BIG ISSUE WITH C ONE, BUT, BUT NOT, BUT I DON'T LIKE IT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. I THINK I, AGAIN, I THINK TO TWO THINGS TOGETHER, A SMALLER SITE WITH RESIDENTIAL ON A RESIDENTIAL STREETS, AND C ONE AS BIG, YOU KNOW, AS BIG AS IT CAN BE, KEEPING THAT BUFFER WOULD BE OKAY. AND LET ME JUST HAVE A FOLLOW UP ON THAT. WOULD IT BE HELPFUL IF YOU HAD MORE TIME TO POSSIBLY DISCUSS NOW THAT YOU'VE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THE NEW OR THE PLANNED USE, UH, TO SEE WHAT, UH, YOU CAN WORK OUT WITH MR. BATTERS OR ANY OTHER REPRESENTATIVE? UM, IT, IT, IT COULD BE, UH, YEAH, I GUESS I, IT, IT WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LOT MORE AND, AND I, I JUST LEARNING THIS AND STILL NOT KNOWING THE FULL INTENT. WE'RE STILL OPPOSED TO THE APPLICATION THE WAY IT IS A FULL C TWO. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, AND I APOLOGIZE IF THAT WAS REDUNDANT. OKAY, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUSER MONTE, COMMISSIONER KAMATH, THIS IS A GENERAL COMMENT TO THE, UH, UM, ONE WHO'S, UH, ON THE SPEAKING RIGHT NOW. I WISH THIS, THESE THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND RESOLVED BETWEEN THE, UH, THE PREVIOUS CASE AND THE CASE. NOW, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD'VE BEEN RESOLVED MUCH SMOOTHER IF THEY WERE FORTHCOMING. RIGHT NOW, I FEEL THAT ALL THE COMMISSION BOARD MEMBERS ARE JUST BEING PLAYED AT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH UNTIL A FEW MINUTES AGO. MR. COMMENT, THANK, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH. OKAY. ANYONE WITH QUESTIONS FOR MR. ICK? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, MR. SEK FOR YOUR TIME. UM, WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. ALL RIGHT, MR. FERNANDO LOZANO, ARE YOU THERE? YES, MA'AM. ALRIGHT, SIR, YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ZONING COMMISSION. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. UM, HI THERE. UH, THIS IS, UH, FERNANDO LOZANO ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON IT. MY PROPERTY'S NEIGHBORHOOD'S COMMERCIAL. YES, I DO REPRESENT THE, UH, UH, MS. MARTINEZ, UH, AS A BROKER, I WOULD [05:00:01] NOT BE MAKING ANY COMMISSION WITH THE GROUND LEASE. UH, JUST LIKE MR. UH, BATERS, HE'S DOING THIS PRO BONO, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE ON THIS, AND, UH, MS. MARTINEZ REACHED OUT TO ME RIGHT AFTER YOU GUYS PROVED MY ZONING. SO I REALLY THANK YOU. UH, WE LOVE OUR, OR OUR OFFICE. UM, WE, WE HAVE, UH, A BEAUTIFUL, YOU KNOW, BUFFER BETWEEN US AND EVERYBODY ELSE. AND SO, UH, BUT WHEN MS. MARTINEZ, UH, ORIGINAL CONTRACT WAS DENIED, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE INFAMOUS QT THAT EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE, UH, SO AGAINST, AND YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, I I I CAN DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT. HOWEVER, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN SHE CALLS ME AND SHE'S BREAKING DOWN BECAUSE SHE'S A LADY IN HER SEVENTIES, AND SHE TAKES CARE OF HER FATHER WHO'S IN, YOU KNOW, HIS NINETIES. AND SO SHE'S A SOLE, YOU KNOW, CARETAKER. AND SO WHEN SHE ASKED ME LIKE, HOW DID YOU DO IT? I SAID, LOOK, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T HAVE A WAY TO REALLY HELP YOU, BUT LIKE, REALLY TRY TO CONNECT YOU WITH MR. BATTER. YOU KNOW, I APPROACHED MR. BATTER TO SEE IF HE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THIS PRO BONO BECAUSE OF HER DYER'S SITUATION. THOSE HOUSES ARE IN REALLY ROUGH SHAPE. THEY'RE COMING DOWN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. I MEAN, WHETHER WE LIKE 'EM OR NOT, DO WE NEED MORE HOUSING? ABSOLUTELY. I'M A REAL ESTATE BROKER AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE MORE HOUSING, BUT EVEN IF YOU LOOK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, WE HAVE A PLETHORA, UH, OF VACANT LOTS. I MEAN, EVEN MR. , I MEAN, HE OWNS MULTIPLE LOTS. HE HASN'T BUILT ANYTHING. I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S SO EASY TO POINT OUT WHEN SOMEBODY ELSE'S, UH, PROPERTY. AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S DO THAT. BUT HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF IN THE WORDS OF COVID GOOD AND JUNIOR'S LIKE, SHOW ME THE MONEY, YOU KNOW, I'M THE REAL ESTATE BROKER, YOU KNOW, NO ONE HAS APPROACHED US. SIR, THAT'S TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. LAZANO? I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER ANYTHING. OKAY. . ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE, WE, WE DON'T, I I DID JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION. SO YOU, YOU HAD THE OFFICE BUILDING THE, WAS IT THE C ONE OFFICE BUILDING THAT, UM, SOMETIME, WHAT, LAST YEAR? IT'S, IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, YEAH. NEIGHBORHOOD QUESTION. OKAY. YES, MA'AM. THAT WAS GOOD. AND SO WE, WE, I JUST WAS REFRESHING, PICKED UP A HOUSE AT, IT WAS IN REAL ROUGH SHAPE AND WE CLEANED UP. WE LOVED THIS PLACE. OKAY, GREAT. GREAT, GREAT. OKAY. WE WERE, I, I REMEMBER, THANK YOU SO MUCH, UH, FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CALL IN. WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU, MS. TIFFANY O'NEILL, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I'M HERE. THANK YOU, MA'AM. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ZONING COMMISSION, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. HI, MY NAME IS TIFFANY O'NEILL. I LIVE AT 6 0 9 EAST CARSON STREET IN THE HISTORIC GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I JUST WANNA START BY THANKING THE COMMISSIONERS THAT HAVE REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, STEPPED OUT AND TALKED ABOUT LISTENING TO RESIDENTS. I HAD A WHOLE THING HERE THAT I WAS GONNA READ TO YOU. UM, BUT I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT, LIKE, I CAN SEE THE, THE COMMISSIONERS TRYING TO HEAR FROM RESIDENTS AND REALLY TAKING THEIR VOICES INTO ACCOUNT. I THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT GOVERNMENT HILL HAS BEEN OPERATED WITH, WITH THIS SENSE OF DISDAIN THAT RESIDENTS ARE UNABLE TO UNDERSTAND. AND SO, OF COURSE, PEOPLE ARE MISTRUSTFUL OF CHANGING OF ZONING. AND SO COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, I'VE EMAILED YOU MULTIPLE TIMES. WE CAN FOLLOW UP OFFLINE LATER, UM, ABOUT YOUR COMMENTS. BUT I, YOU RESPONDED TO ME AND I STILL HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BACK AFTER, TWO TIMES AFTER YOU CONTACTED ME SAYING YOU WOULD PROVIDE ME WITH SOME DOCUMENTATION. UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S RELATIONSHIPS LIKE THAT WHERE WE HAVE VERY ENFRANCHISED DISTRICTS LIKE D 10 AND D NINE THAT ARE TALKING, UM, LIKE, LIKE SAYING A COMMENT, LIKE, WE FIGHT THESE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS SHOULDN'T BE A FIGHT. THIS IS ABOUT LIKE, WHAT'S BEST FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. UM, AND SO I THINK THAT IF THE VOICES OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAY THAT C TWO IS TOO, TOO SIGNIFICANT, IT SOUNDS LIKE PEOPLE ARE VERY WILLING TO WORK WITH A DEVELOPER ON A C ONE OR A LOWER LEVEL OF ZONING. THOSE STEPS SHOULD BE TAKEN. AND I WOULD LOVE A STARBUCKS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, I REALLY WOULD, BUT SAYING IT AT THE TWO MINUTES BEFORE ANYONE HAS ANY, UM, ABILITY TO, TO TO HEAR MORE ABOUT IT SEEMS LIKE KIND OF A, A LOW BALL MOVE. SO I, I AM GRATEFUL TO THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE LISTENING TO RESIDENTS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU, UM, ARE ABLE TO REZONE THIS FOR SOMETHING NOT C TWO, BUT LIGHTER. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, SO WOULD YOU, UM, IT, SO WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN WORKING WITH THE, THE, THE CURRENT PROPOSAL? IF, [05:05:01] IF THAT, IF THEY SO MOVE, CHOOSE TO DO THAT, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED? YOU'RE SAYING WITH STARBUCKS, RIGHT? UH, OF COURSE THAT'S JUST A CONTRACT OR WHATEVER, OR LIKE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT, RIGHT? SURE. I THINK LIKE PEOPLE WANNA BE IN CONVERSATION. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UM, FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, WELL WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND YOUR VOICE. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. LORENZO ORTIZ, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? I AM, GO AHEAD, SIR. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME'S LOREN . I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 25 47 NORTH IH 35. I AM IN OPPOSITION AS FAR AS C TWO. AND I GUESS TO START OFF, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS AS I GUESS AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, MATTERS, DIDN'T TALK TO FROST. SEEMS LIKE FROST DOESN'T TALK INTO MATTERS, BUT YET THEY'RE JOINTED IN THE HIPS TO MAKE ONE BIG PROPERTY. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND I'M GLAD THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT OPPOSED TO AN ACTUAL STARBUCKS, BUT I THINK C TWO DESIGNATION IS STILL TOO BIG. WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, ARRIVE TO THE STARBUCKS WITH A C ONE. I AM IN OPPOSITION, YOU KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, ONCE AGAIN, IT'S A GREAT COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHY I ACTUALLY BROUGHT MY PROPERTY THERE. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. ORTIZ. LET ME SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY, UH, QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS FOR MR. ORTIZ? ALL. OKAY. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, MR. ORTIZ. THANK YOU. LIZ FRANKLIN? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS LIZ FRANKLIN, FIVE 15 EIGHTH STREET. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MA'AM, WE CAN. THIS IS CASE ONE 13. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. GO AHEAD. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN. UM, I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THE C TWO BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS THAT I'M ALIGNING WITH ARE. I THINK IT'S TOO BROAD. I THINK THE GROUND LEASE IS SHAKY BECAUSE IF STARBUCKS FALLS THROUGH, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE THAT DECISION UNLESS IT GOES FROM C TWO TO C ONE, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY HAVE ASKED FOR EVERYTHING AND GIVEN NOTHING UNTIL 3 54. I FIND IT RICH, BUT THE GUY THAT WAS MOST LIKELY TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOMETHING THERE GOES FIRST, AND THEN WE CUT 'EM OFF AND DON'T EVEN TELL HIM. THAT'S JUST BEYOND MY COMPREHENSION, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I GENERALLY DON'T TAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS, BUT I FIND OFFENSE WITH THESE, THOSE DAYS AND THEM, WHICH IS WHY I ALWAYS GET INVOLVED. I, I DON'T QUITE BELIEVE THE LETTER OF INTENT WILL BE THE FOLLOW THROUGH. WE ARE BEING ASKED TO GO AHEAD AND SUPPORT A C TWO BLANKET END ZONE ONE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF REAL CONVERSATION THAT WOULD'VE PRODUCED SOMETHING BY THIS MEETING. HERE WE SITTING FIVE HOURS LATER TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE BEFOREHAND. AND I HOLD THE COUNCILWOMAN, DR. JONES, I'M NOT TAKING OFFENSE WITH YOU PERSONALLY, RESPONSIBLE. THIS IS CONTRARY TO ANYTHING SHE SAID OR DID. AND YOU ARE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG WITH NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION. MR. BATTERS COULD HAVE EASILY HAD, HE WANTED TRANSPARENCY AND A, A FAIR AND EQUITABLE CHANCE AT GETTING BOTH OF THEM ACROSS THE LINE COULD HAVE EASILY INCLUDED ALL OF THE, UH, THE CONCERNED CITIZENS. IT, I, I THINK IT'S AN UNDUE BURDEN FOR YOU GUYS TO TURN AROUND AND HAVE TO TURN AROUND AND DECIDE AND CONTINUE TO PUT A NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST ONE ANOTHER ON A BLANKET CHECK. ON A BLANK CHECK. THANK YOU FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU, MS. FRANKLIN. LEMME JUST SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR MS. FRANKLIN? YES. OKAY. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR, OH, OH, I'M SORRY. UH, MS. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU? UH, YES. I, I, I, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I UNDERSTOOD THAT HE DID NOT HAVE THE RELEASE OF CONFIDENTIALITY UNTIL RIGHT AT FOUR O'CLOCK, SO I DON'T THINK AS A, AS A ATTORNEY, HE COULD DO THAT. UM, CERTAINLY, WELL, I WOULD'VE LOVED TO HAVE KNOWN THAT BEFOREHAND TOO. SO I, IF, IF [05:10:01] I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY ULTERIOR MOTIVE, BUT HE COULDN'T GET THE RELEASE UNTIL HE COULD, COULD, COULD BREAK CONFIDENTIALITY, JUST LIKE WITH A PHYSICIAN. I CAN'T TELL YOU SOMEBODY ELSE'S DIAGNOSIS WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION. THANKS. RIGHT. SO IS THERE A QUESTION OR YOU JUST A COMMENT? JUST A COMMENT TO YOU? THAT'S ALL. OKAY. WELL, OKAY. THAT'S FINE. UH, THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MS. FRANKLIN? OKAY. THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH, MS. FRANKLIN. THANKS, DORA BETIS. MS. BETIS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES. YES. UH, WERE YOU ABLE TO SHOW MY MAP? YES, MA'AM. WE'LL PUT UP YOUR MAP AND, UH, AS SOON AS WE DO, WHICH WE HAVE NOW, UH, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. OKAY. HELLO, MY NAME IS DORA BETIS. I LIVE AT 7 25 SAND. I'M ONLY 58 FEET FROM THE ZONING PROPOSAL. I HAVE LIVED IN GOVERNMENT HILL FOR 40 YEARS AND MY HUSBAND 23 YEARS. OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1889. THE MAJORITY OF OUR HOMES HAVE BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILIES FOR OVER 30, 40, 50, 60 AND 70 YEARS. MY PARENTS' HOME WAS BUILT IN 1935. THEY BOUGHT IT THEIR ONLY HOME IN 1953 AND RAISED A FAMILY. THEY LIVED IN GOVERNMENT HILL FOR 63 YEARS. MY HUSBAND AND I NOW, UH, LIVE IN MY CHILDHOOD HOME. IT IS OUR RETIREMENT HOME. IT IS OUR FOREVER HOME. IT IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. ZONING SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO A C TO COMMERCIAL TO ALLOW SALE OR LEASE TO UNKNOWN DEVELOPERS. I, I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO OPEN MY FRONT DOOR TO A 2.1 ACRE COMMERCIAL SITE THAT COULD BE A SUPER GAS STATION AND THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC THAT IT WOULD COME THAT CAUSED FOR OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS 425 FEET AWAY. OUR CITY IS GROWING AND WE NEED MORE HOUSING. DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD DISAPPEAR TO A C TWO DEVELOPMENT WHEN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HELP WITH THE HOUSING, HOUSING SHORTAGE. WE NEED ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. MY, MY HUSBAND AND I CAN COMPROMISE ON A NC UM, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OH ONE OFFICE DISTRICT, UH, O YOU KNOW, OR C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL, BUT NOT A C TWO. THE ZONING CODES COULD BE ACCEPTED AND COULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR ALL OF US. JUST A SIDE NOTE, NOTE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT SOME TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL BUFFER, YOU KNOW, UM, AND ALSO WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO CONTINUE TO FEEL LIKE A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT COMMERCIAL. SO, UM, IF YOU CAN SEE MY MAP, THOSE ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE, UH, THOSE ARE MY NEIGHBORS THAT STRONGLY OPPOSED TO A C TWO COMMERCIAL. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE DENY THE C TWO REZONING THE NUMBERS. SPEAK VOLUME. YOU CAN SEE THAT NUMBERS SPEAK VOLUME. PLEASE DON'T KILL OUR GOVERNMENT HERO. THANK YOU. OH, UM, LET ME JUST CHECK TO SEE IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU. HOLD JUST ONE MOMENT. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, WELL WE CERTAINLY, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR VOICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD DAY. DI ON SPEAKER, MAKE IT HARDER TO HEAR DIT COLE? YES. YES, YES MA'AM. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. YOU'RE, UH, SPEAKING IN REFERENCE TO ZONING CASE 1 1 3. YES, MY NAME IS DIT COLE AND I STILL LIVE AT 1 0 5 RENO. SLIDE ONE, PLEASE. FOLLOWING QTS WITHDRAWAL OF THEIR C TWO REZONING APPLICATION FOR THIS PROPERTY, WE, THE 200 FOOT NEIGHBORS MET WITH D TWO COUNCILWOMAN JADA ANDREW SULLIVAN, TO DISCUSS FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT AND LAND USES AT THIS MEETING, RESIDENTS, AGAIN, REIT REITERATED OUR CONCERN FOR MAINTAINING RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION AND STRESSED OUR FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT IS CURRENTLY R SIX AND BEING OPEN TO THE POSSIBILITY OF MULTI-FAMILY, HIGHER DENSITY, ET CETERA. WHEN C TWO ZONING AND THEN, SORRY, THEN THE COUNCILWOMAN AGREED THIS WAS SOMETHING SHE COULD WORK WITH AND SAID SHE WOULD REACH OUT TO RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPERS. AND THEN COVID 19 HAPPENED WHEN THE C TWO REZONING SIGNS WENT UP ON JUNE 24TH. WE SPOKE WITH THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S D TWO ZONING DIRECTOR, DIRECTOR ORLANDO RAMIREZ, WHO REMEMBERED BOTH THE MEETING AND THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S COMMITMENT TO SOME FORM OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THESE PROPERTIES. THE 200 FOOT RADIUS NEIGHBORS WHO WILL BE 100% IMPACTED BY THE C TWO UPZONING CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING AGAIN. SLIDE TWO PLEASE. EAST. WE WANNA LIVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND NOT BEHIND A HIGH TRAFFIC C TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. WE WANNA LIVE IN HOUSES THAT BASE AND ARE NEXT TWO OTHER HOUSES. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE AT JUST 30 FEET [05:15:01] DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE. SO, NUMBER ONE 13 PROPERTY IS ZONE RESIDENTIAL AND SHOULD REMAIN SOME FORM OF RESIDENTIAL. IF IT IS AWARDED C TWO, IT WILL BE LIKE MAKING OUR HOME C TWO. WE ARE THAT CLOSE. JUST LOOK FOR US IN THEIR BACK PARKING LOT. SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE CHANGING THE SLIDES. HOW IS THIS FAIR FOR HOMEOWNERS TO INVEST THEIR MONEY IN A NEIGHBORHOOD ONLY TO HAVE IT REZONED OUT OF BEING A NEIGHBORHOOD, ALLOWING COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT TO BEGIN TO FEED ON OUR NEIGHBORS AND HOMES. THAT'S THE STREET. THAT'S THE HOUSE, THAT'S THE VIEW FROM OUR FRONT PORCH SLIDES FOUR. IT'S SIMPLE. KEEP OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD SOME FORM OF A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT DENIED ME TO ZONING AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, THE BANNER ON THE FENCE ARE, ARE THOSE ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT SAYS NO C TWO COMMERCIAL? THEY ARE. OKAY. SO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS, IS NOT WILLING TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSION ANY AS FAR AS THIS BEING C TWO. SO THERE'S NO POINT IN GOING TO THE TABLE WITH THIS DEVELOPER, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS INCORRECT. UM, WE WOULD GO TO THE TABLE WITH THIS DEVELOPER. LET ME ASK A QUESTION, PLEASE. SO YOU WOULD GO TO THE TABLE WITH THIS DEVELOPER IF IT WAS C ONE? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. WE LET GO TO THE TABLE. WE'RE WILLING. LEMME ASK THE QUESTION, PLEASE. IF YOU GO TO THE TABLE WITH THIS DEVELOPER FOR C ONE, WILL YOU BE ASKING FOR RESIDENTIAL? WE ARE COMPLETELY OPEN. UM, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, WE WANT A RESOLUTION TO THIS LIVING IN FEAR FOR WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, YES OR NO, RIGHT? YES, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY. WE ARE ALL WILLING TO THE PEOPLE, OUR GROUP, WHICH IS NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP. WE'RE JUST THE TWO. I DIDN'T ASK QUESTION, BUT I WANNA KNOW. OKAY. DON'T MIND THE QUESTION. I YOU CAN, YOU YOU CAN ANSWER, YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTION, BUT I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU COULD, UH, CHANGE THE TONE A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THIS IS A, A CITIZEN WHO'S, UH, TAKING THEIR TIME. SO YOU COULD JUST CHANGE THE TONE. THAT'S ALL. I THINK PRETTY STRONG. TONE ON HER FENCE. HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD? JUST BLANKETING THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION HERE. SO YOU WOULD, YOU'RE WILLING TO GO TO THE TABLE IF IT'S C ONE AND C ONE ONLY. ARE YOU WILLING TO GO TO THE TABLE ONCE YOU GET THERE? ARE YOU ALSO GOING TO ASK FOR NO, WE DON'T WANT C ONE, WE WANT RESIDENTIAL. WELL, THIS IS HYPOTHETICAL. ABSOLUTELY NOT. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A COMMUNICATION. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATION. I KNOW YOU DO. YOU'RE OKAY. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. IT'S FINE. I'M SORRY. UM, THAT'S HYPOTHETICAL ANYWAY, SO, UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WE APPRECIATE YOUR VOICE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . BYE-BYE. ONE LAST CALLER, ROSE HILL. UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? WE CAN HEAR YOU OKAY. YES MA'AM. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. I, I JUST WANTED TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I JUST HEARD ABOUT THIS MYSELF. THIS IS NEW TO ME. THAT, THAT WE DO HAVE STARBUCKS, BUT KNOWING THAT WE DO HAVE STARBUCKS, THAT IS AT LEAST SOMETHING THAT I THINK NOW, WE HAD A CONVERSATION NOT TOO LONG AGO. UM, I HEARD MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE 20, WITHIN THE 200 FEET SAY, UH, WE ARE NOT AGAINST DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE DON'T WANT THIS, WE DON'T WANT THAT. SO YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH, YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH OF BOTH WORLDS. SO EITHER YOU'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER AND TRYING TO PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT EVERYBODY CAN, CAN BE HAPPY WITH. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU CAN'T COME BACK AND SAY, WELL, WE, WE DON'T WANT THIS NOW, BUT WE'RE TELLING YOU, UH, C ONE, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOCK THOSE HOUSES DOWN OR WE DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THIS. THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS THIS, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF A 70 YEAR OLD WOMAN THAT HAS WORKED HARD IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S BEEN THERE BEFORE? A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE AND NOW SHE'S BEING DENIED THE RIGHT TO SELL HER PROPERTIES. SO WHERE IS THAT DISCRIMINATION FOR AN ELDERLY SENIOR PERSON THAT HAS THAT RIGHT? WHO ARE WE TO COME IN AND TELL SOMEBODY WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO WITH THEIR PROPERTY? AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T WANNA NEGOTIATE. NOW, I HEAR THAT, THAT THERE WAS NO NEGOTIATION. THAT IS NOT TRUE BECAUSE MR. MILLER HAD A MEETING WITH THE OPPOSITION TEAM AND WITH THE PEOPLE IN FAVOR. AND THERE WAS NOT ONE TIME IN THAT MEETING THAT NOBODY SAID, I WILL COMPROMISE. I WILL FIND A SOLUTION. LET'S WORK TOGETHER. THAT'S WHAT I KEPT SAYING, LET'S WORK TOGETHER AND COME TO THE TABLE MORE THAN ONE [05:20:01] TIME. THAT NEVER HAPPENED. SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING TODAY IS INACCURATE. AND, AND I, AND I APPALL THAT, THAT PEOPLE HAVE A TENDENCY NOT TO TELL THE TRUTH. LET'S TELL THE TRUTH AND LET'S TELL THE WAY THE COLLEGE, THE CABBAGE, IF YOU'RE GONNA NEGOTIATE, COME TO THE TABLE AND WORK, YOU SHOULD BE, YOU SHOULD HAVE A SEAT AT THAT TABLE. BUT DON'T COME IN AND SAY ONE THING AND THEN TURN AROUND AND THEN SAY SOMETHING ELSE AND MAKE THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, UM, UH, MAKE BELIEVE THAT YOU ARE ALL FOR NEGOTIATIONS. I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. I'M SORRY. THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE, MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS FAIR AT THE TABLE AND THAT WE ALL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, LET'S BE HONEST, LET'S BE HONEST WITH EACH OTHER. LET'S NOT LIE. THAT'S WHAT MY PROBLEM HERE. MS. HILL. UH, THANK YOU MS. HILL. LET ME, LEMME CHECK AND SEE IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU. YES, MA'AM. YES. THANK YOU. UM, SO JUST A QUICK QUESTION. SO, SO I BELIEVE WE HEARD EARLIER FROM MR THAT, THAT THERE WERE SOME DISCUSSIONS HAD WITH, UH, WITH MR. BATTERS. WHO IS THE, WHO IS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT? UM, SO I'M JUST, I GUESS I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED. IS THAT, IS THAT, UH, NOT THE CASE THAT THEY IT WAS, WE, YES, HE DID, BUT IT WAS A MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH BOTH, BOTH SIDES AND THERE WAS NO NOWHERE TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE COME TO A COMPROMISE? I EVEN SAID, IS THERE A RE A REASONABLE SOLUTION WHERE BOTH GROUPS CAN COME TOGETHER? BECAUSE YOU HAD QUITE A BIT OF PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION AND THE OTHER SIDE WAS STEVEN AND THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT CALLED IN THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION. BUT THERE WAS, THEY SAID IN ALL THE SENTENCES I HEARD FROM EVERYBODY SAID, UH, WE DON'T WANT C TWO COMMERCIAL. UH, BUT WE DON'T WANT, BUT WE JUST WANT RESIDENTIAL. WE WANT RESIDENTIAL. WE DON'T WANT NO C TWO COMMERCIAL THANK OR NO THANK YOU. I HAVE, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MS. HILL HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION BECAUSE HE, HE DID PRESENT TO US, UM, A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PLANS THAT INCLUDED C ONE AND SOME MULTIFAMILY. SO I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT, THAT, THAT THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED AT THESE, UH, THAT IT OR, OR YEAH. THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED AT THE MEETING THAT YOU WERE AT YE YES. IT WA IT WAS PRESENTED, IT WAS PRESENTED, BUT C ONE NEVER CAME UP. THERE WAS, THERE WAS NO NEGOTIATION. IT WAS NO WAY OR NOTHING, OR THE HIGHWAY. THAT'S THE WAY. AND I WAS TRYING TO SAY, COME TOGETHER WITH THEM, HAVE A MEETING. THEY EVEN HAD A SECOND MEETING. I WASN'T INCLUDING THE SECOND MEETING, BUT THEY EVEN HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT TRYING TO COME TOGETHER TO WORK TOGETHER. I BELIEVE MRS. MARTINEZ HAS GOT EVERYTHING IN HER POWER TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, OKAY, THANK YOU THAT THIS MEETING HAPPENED. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, MS. HILL. SO THE SIGNS THAT WE JUST SAW, THE BIG TWO BY FOUR YELLOW SIGNS ABOUT HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE OUT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IS THAT GROUP ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEGITIMATE HOME ASSOCIA OR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION? NO. NO. THEY, THEY ARE NOT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THEY'RE, THE MAJORITY OF 'EM ARE NOT MEMBERS OF THE ASSOCIATION. THEY'RE JUST RESIDENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEY, YES, THEY HAVE FILLED THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE EVERYBODY ON SANDMEYER THAT I TALKED TO, I WALKED THE BLOCK FOR TWO HOURS AND EVERYBODY THAT THEY TALKED TO, THEY TOLD US THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A GAS STATION THERE. SO EVERYBODY WAS FEARFUL BEING GIVEN WRONG MISINFORMATION, BEING TOLD THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A GAS STATION, NOT KNOWING WHAT WAS GONNA REALLY GO THERE. OKAY. SO AND SO, SO PEOPLE WERE MISINFORMED. OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THOUGH, THAT IF THEY WERE TO GET INTO THE DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPER AS FAR AS IT BEING C ONE, IT WOULD NOT EVEN GO ANYWHERE? NO, BECAUSE IT, IT, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP. WHAT? THAT THAT WOULD, DISCUSSION NEVER CAME UP BECAUSE WE, WE SAID, WOULD YOU CONSIDER ANYTHING ELSE? AND THEY SAID, NO, WE WANNA KEEP IT RESIDENTIAL. WE DON'T WANT COMMERCIAL THERE. AND THE SAME SENTENCE I HEARD FIVE PEOPLE SAY, AND IF YOU GO BACK AND LISTEN TO THE RECORDING DURING PLANNING, YOU'LL HEAR THE SAME THING WHERE THEY SAID, WE JUST DON'T WANT RESIDE, WE JUST WANT RESIDENTIAL. NOTHING THERE, BUT RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. SO WHEN THEY SAY WE DON'T WANT C TWO, THEY'RE MEAN ON THEIR SIGNS. THEY ALSO MEAN C ONE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING NO COMMERCIAL, ANYTHING HAS TO DO WITH COMMERCIAL. THEY'RE SAYING NO COMMERCIAL ON THEIR SIGNS. IT SAYS NO COMMERCIAL PERIOD. SO. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT THEIR SIGNS SAY. SO IF THEY WANNA NEGOTIATE, I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN MAKE A STATEMENT THAT WAY BECAUSE THEIR SIGNS SAY ONE, ONE THING AND THEY'RE SAYING, I HEAR, I'M HEARING RIGHT NOW A DIFFERENT THING. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO CLARIFY, THAT I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE OPENNESS OF THIS GOING INTO ANY TYPE OF DISCUSSION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. LIKE, WE'VE HAD THIS, WE'VE HAD THIS BEFORE WITH THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU ROSE. OKAY. [05:25:01] ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR MS. HILL? COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? SO IT'S NOT QUITE A QUESTION FOR MS. HILL, BUT IT IS A REQUEST TO YOU, MADAM CHAIR, THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO A MOTION THAT WE TAKE A BREAK. WE'VE BEEN GONE FOR ABOUT THREE AND A HALF HOURS. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, COMM, I MEAN, COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUSER MATE. MS. HILL. UH, OH, WAIT, LET'S SEE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. HILL? NO, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU AF RIGHT BEFORE WE GO TO BREAK . OKAY. I THINK, I THINK WE ARE SO APPRECIATIVE OF YOUR TIME, MS. HILL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR CALLING IN. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. WAS MS. HILL THE, THE LAST, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MS. HILL WAS THE LAST, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, GREAT. OKAY. SO COMMISSIONER ROMERO, UM, I KNOW WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CASE, BUT IS THERE ANY SENSE OF, UM, HOW WE HAVE A TON OF CASES STILL TO GET THROUGH SO WE CAN SORT OF TELL PEOPLE HOW LONG WE'RE GONNA BE IN HERE? IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT LIKE A GOOD TWO AND A HALF HOURS MORE, UNLESS THESE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS. BUT, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATE OF HOW MUCH LONGER? JUST ASKING, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW OKAY. THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S DEFINITELY PROBABLY ON EVERYBODY'S MIND. UH, STAFF, DO WE HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT QUESTION? SO, FOR THE REST OF THE CASES THAT ARE ON INDIVIDUAL, WE ACTUALLY DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF LIVE CALLERS MM-HMM. , BUT, UM, SOME OF THESE STILL HAVE, UH, COMMENTS TO READ INTO THE RECORD. AND A COUPLE OF THOSE CASES ARE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS OF DENIAL, BUT, UH, NOT A LOT OF LIVE CALLERS. SO, AND IT'S TYPICALLY THE LIVE CALLERS THAT TAKE UP, UH, SOME MORE TIME. SO YOU, YOU DON'T PROBABLY, IT'S, I KNOW IT'S HARD TO PREDICT BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW OUR DISCUSSION WILL GO, BUT, AND ANY IDEA ON TIME? UH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY TWO HOURS OF EACH CASE TAKES ABOUT 20 MINUTES. OKAY. MM-HMM. , IS THAT OKAY? WELL, UM, YOU HAVE, UH, SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO, UH, SAY COMMISSIONER ROMERO ABOUT THAT? NO, IT'S JUST, NO, JUST IN THE FUTURE I THINK WE'RE GONNA NEED TO TALK ABOUT, I MEAN, MANAGING THE POINT, THIS BECOMES PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR US, UM, TO BE HERE THIS LONG AND WE'RE JUST NOT, UH, NOT AT THE POINT WHERE WE SHOULD BE. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT LATER. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL PICK IT UP FOR THE NEXT WORK. OKAY. WELL IT IS CURRENTLY 6 44. UM, LET US TAKE A FIVE MINUTE, UH, BREAK. IS THAT OKAY? FIVE MINUTES EVERYBODY? OR MA'AM, COULD WE HAVE A 10 MINUTES SO WE CAN LEAVE SOMETHING TO EAT? OKAY. OKAY. ALL , NO SLAVE DRIVING OVER HERE. OKAY. 10 MINUTES. . ALRIGHT. IT IS CURRENTLY 6 45. WE WILL COME BACK AT 6 55. EVERYBODY PLEASE, UH, MUTE YOUR CAMERAS AND MUTE YOUR MICROPHONES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. IT IS CURRENTLY 6:56 PM AND WE ARE RECONVENING. WE ARE CURRENTLY HERE, UH, CASE NUMBER, UH, SIX. AND SO WHEN WE LEFT OFF, WE HAD DONE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT AND SO NOW WE WILL, UH, REJOIN, UH, MR. BATTERS, ARE YOU THERE? WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? MR. BATTERS, ARE YOU THERE? JUDICI? JUST A REMINDER THAT YOU HAVE. YES, A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT IT'S NOT FOR SALE, IT'S FOR A GROUND LEASE. UM, THIS REZONE AND REDEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND Y'ALL HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE SO-CALLED GOVERNMENT HILL PLAN, BUT I'D LIKE TO ACTUALLY READ TO YOU ALL THE RELEVANT PART OF THE PER PLAN AS IT PERTAINS TO THIS, UH, CORNER HERE. UM, JUST A SECOND TO PULL IT UP. IN THE MEANTIME, UM, YOU KNOW, MISS, IMAGINE IF THIS WAS A RESIDENTIAL REZONING AND WE WERE ASKED TO GIVE THE NAMES OF ALL OF THE RENTERS THAT ARE GONNA BE MOVING INTO THE APARTMENTS AFTER YOU BUILD THEM. THAT, THAT'S KIND OF EXTRAORDINARY. NEVERTHELESS, WE HAVE SCRAMBLED TO NOT ONLY GET A SPECIFIC USER PIN DOWN, WHICH THEY'VE DONE, I HAVE SCRAMBLED FOR WEEKS TO GET THEM TO AGREE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR INDIVIDUAL CAREER BACKGROUNDS ARE, BUT, UH, IT IS ENTIRELY COMMON IN THESE SITUATIONS FOR THERE TO BE SOME KIND OF A BINDING CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENT BECAUSE AS I SAID, THEY DON'T WANT YOU, UH, BIDDING THEIR OFFER TO OTHER PEOPLE. AND OF COURSE, WE DO WANT TO BID THEIR OFFER AND SHOP AND GET THE BEST BID FOR MRS. MARTINEZ. OKAY, THIS IS FROM OCTOBER OF 2010 COM SPECIFICALLY AS TO WALTERS AND 35. AND THE NON HISTORIC PART OF GOVERNMENT HILL WHERE WE ARE COMMERCIAL PROVIDES FOR MEDIUM INTENSITY LAND USE THAT DRAWS ITS CUSTOMER BASE FROM TWO OR MORE NEIGHBORHOODS. EXAMPLES OF USES INCLUDE [05:30:01] GROCERY STORE, MEDICAL OFFICE, MUSIC STORE, SHOE STORE, NURSERY MAILING SERVICES. STORE COMMERCIAL USES SHOULD BE LOCATED ALONG ARTERIALS OR HIGHER ORDER ROADWAYS IN YOUR INTERSECTIONS. FOR AN ESTABLISHED COMMERCIAL AREAS, YOU COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS AN APPROPRIATE BUFFER BETWEEN LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES, OR BETWEEN AN ARTERIAL AND LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A 48 UNIT OPPORTUNITY ACROSS THE STREETS AT WALTERS, AND AGAIN, WE ARE LANDLOCKED AND DISTRICT TWO, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DESERVE TO HAVE NICE NEW NAME BRAND AMENITIES TO WE'VE MET AN EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH BURDEN IN THIS CASE BY PINNING DOWN A SPECIFIC USER, PINNING THEM DOWN IN TIME AND ACCOMMODATING REQUESTS FOR INFORMATION. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. BATTERS. IF YOU'LL, UH, STAY, UM, WELL COMMISSIONERS WILL VERY LIKELY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. SO I AM GOING TO OPEN IT UP NOW WITH COMMISSIONER JONES. UH, YES, MR. BATTERS, UH, WOULD YOU, WOULD, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, UH, CHANGE THE, UH, ZONING TO C ONE? UH, AND WILL THAT ACCOMMODATE A STARBUCKS? THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. DR. JONES, UH, THAT PROPOSAL WAS MADE, WE TOOK IT BACK TO THEM AND THEY DO NOT WANT C ONE, THEY WANT C TWO. ANOTHER POINT OF NEGOTIATION THAT WE'RE TRYING FOR, WE OF COURSE WANT A 30 YEAR GROUND LEASE WITH NO RIGHT TO PURCHASE AT THE END. AND OF COURSE THEY WANT, YOU KNOW, SHORTEST POSSIBLE GROUND LEASE WITH THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE IT AT THE END. BUT WE, WE, WE WANT THEM THERE, BUT WE WANT THEM THERE FOR A LONG TIME PAYING MS. MARTINEZ A CHECK. BUT NO, IT, IT, OUR OUR BEST USER WAS THE, THE STARBUCKS FOR CARROLL VENTURES AND THEY WANT C TWO. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, OKAY. OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I, UH, QUESTION FOR MR. BATTERS, UM, GIVEN THAT STARBUCKS WILL NOT ACCEPT A C ONE, WILL STARBUCKS ACCEPT A C TWO, UH, NON-ALCOHOL TO THAT? YES. YES, YES, THEY WILL. OKAY. AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE AND ANOTHER NEGOTIATION POINT THAT, THAT ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF MERIT THAT I, I DO WANNA BRING UP THAT'S SIMILAR TO THE LINE OF SINKING ON YOUR QUESTION. UH, ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS POINTED OUT MAYBE CARVING OUT PART OF THE PROPERTY AND THEY WANT THE WHOLE PARCEL, AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE PROPOSED AN ABOVE AVERAGE BUFFER ZONE IN GREEN SPACE BETWEEN THEM AND THE RESIDENTIAL. AND STARBUCKS WANTS THAT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO STAND OUT FROM ANYTHING THAT SURROUNDS THEM AND ATTRACT, UH, PEOPLE IN THE ARTERIAL ROADWAYS. SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE FINE WITH NON-ALCOHOL AND WE'RE FINE WITH, UH, UH, ABOVE AVERAGE BUFFER. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, QUESTIONS. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, SO, UM, MR. BATTERS, UM, SO NOW THAT, UH, YOU HAVE A, UM, POTENTIAL, UM, BUSINESS HERE, AND YOU HAVE THE IDEA ABOUT THE GREEN SPACE, SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO GO BACK AND, UM, WORK WITH THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HAVE FURTHER CONVERSATIONS? UM, I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION I CAN GET MY HANDS ON, WHICH AS A RESULT OF TODAY'S EMAIL TO ME, IS A LOT MM-HMM. MM-HMM. . UM, BUT MISS, MY CLIENT AND I WERE ACTUALLY DISCUSSING THIS, UM, DURING THE BREAK AND NO, WE, WE WANT TO VOTE TODAY IF THE COMMISSION FEELS IT'S A NO, THAT'S FINE. WE'LL GO TO CITY COUNCIL AND FIGHT FOR MRS. MARTINEZ'S SEAT AT THE TABLE OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AT CITY COUNCIL. BUT TODAY WE, WE WANNA VOTE ON THIS PROPOSAL ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. OKAY. AND, UM, AND SO, AND, AND I GUESS THAT THERE'S PROBABLY NO GUARANTEES EVER, BUT, SO, UM, HOW SURE ARE YOU ABOUT THE, UH, STARBUCKS, UM, AS THE CLIENT HERE FOR THE LEASE? WELL, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I'M PRETTY SURE, AND LET ME TELL YOU WHY. I HAVE ANOTHER CLIENT, THAT CASE WAS NOT PRO BONO OVER AT LOCKHILL, SELMA AND BLANCO, AND IN THAT CASE, WE CARVED OUT A PROPERTY AT THE PAD SITE AND, UH, GOT A STARBUCKS. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. IT'S ACROSS FROM THE VOTE AUCTION HOUSE, UH, AND THE BOLERO STATION RIGHT THERE. AND THAT WAS MY FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES AT VACCARO VENTURES. UH, THEY CAME THROUGH ON THEIR WORD. UH, THERE WERE EVEN SOME WEIRD ISSUES WITH WHERE THE WATER MAIN AND SEWER LINE WAS TO WORK THROUGH. SO THEY WERE GOOD. UM, THEY [05:35:01] WERE GOOD PEOPLE TO NEGOTIATE WITH, AND THAT PROJECT BECAME A REALITY. SO I, I'M VERY CONFIDENT SIMPLY BASED ON MY PAST INTERACTIONS WITH THEM, THAT THEY WILL COME THROUGH ON THIS. OKAY. AND, UM, YEAH, I THINK, UM, YEAH, I THINK IN, UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU COULDN'T REVEAL, BUT, UM, I'M USED TO WHEN WE HAVE SOMEBODY COMING IN THAT THEY HOPEFULLY WORK A WHILE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TRY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE NEIGHBORS INPUT WHEN WE KNOW WHO THE DEVELOPER IS. THERE'S USUALLY, AND WE, ANYWAY, SO NEVERMIND. AND USUALLY IT'S A SALE AND USUALLY IT'S A SALE, SO USUALLY IT'S THE DEVELOPER. BUT NO, WE, WE'VE, I MEAN, WE'VE ACTIVELY FOUGHT FOR THE RIGHT TO GIVE THEM INFORMATION MM-HMM. , AND WE WILL FREELY DO SO. AND AGAIN, THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE 200 FEET HAVE BEEN THE MOST REASONABLE IN THIS WHOLE LANDSCAPE TO DEAL WITH. AND WE'RE, WE'RE GRATEFUL. I MEAN, THEY'RE NEIGHBORS, THEY KNOW EACH OTHER, AND SO IF THIS IS NOT GONNA GET APPROVED FOR ANYBODY, I MEAN, IT, IT SHOULD CERTAINLY BE APPROVED FOR ONE OF THEIR OWN WHO'S KEEPING IT AND WILL KEEP CONTROL. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, UH, I, I KNOW THAT THE, A APPLICANT SAID THAT THEY WEREN'T INTERESTED, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, FROM STAFF, SO WOULD A, WOULD THERE EVER BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR LIKE A C ONE, UH, CD FOR A, UH, COFFEE, UH, COMMERCIAL COFFEE BUSINESS? UH, SO A COFFEE SHOP OR FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENT IS ALLOWED BY RIDE A C ONE. OH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, IF THERE'S, OH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. YEAH, I'M CURIOUS, UM, AND I MISSED THAT. I'VE HAD TO SWITCH OUT MY EARPHONES WERE, I'M NOW ALTERNATING 'CAUSE OF THE TIME. BUT IN ANY EVENT, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THIS MR. BATTERS UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET, JUDGING FROM MY EXPERIENCE AT EVERY OTHER STARBUCKS COFFEE SHOP I'VE BEEN IN, YES. AND AGAIN, THEY STARBUCKS WANT C TWO, THEY ALSO WANT THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE IT AT THE END OF THE GROUND LEASE, UH, AT THE END OF 30 YEARS. MAYBE WE CAN COME TO AGREEMENT ON THAT. UH, IF IT'S GONNA BE A FIVE YEAR GROUND LEASE, ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT THAT, THAT WAS A POINT THAT THEY WANT. AND SO I GUESS THAT LEADS TO TWO QUESTIONS FOR ME, IS, GIVEN THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE SOME FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT STICKING POINTS AS TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, IT IT, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOUR CONFIDENCE COMES FROM. DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION AS TO WHY THAT WOULD BE? YES, BECAUSE IN THE PREVIOUS CASE WHERE I REPRESENTED SOMEONE, WE SUCCESSFULLY GOT THEM THERE. IT WAS A LITTLE BIT, THERE WERE MANY MORE STICKING POINTS THAN THIS CASE, IF YOU CAN ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT. AND IT HAPPENED, IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW. ALRIGHT. AND, AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR, UH, INSINUATED THIS OR NOT INSINUATED THAT SOUNDS, HAS A BAD CONNOTATION, BUT SORT OF HINTED AT THIS, BUT YOU KNOW, WHY NOT WAIT UNTIL WE COULD GET THIS INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WE COULD GET THE INFORMATION TO COMMISSIONER JONES AND TO THIS COMMISSION? WHAT WAS THE RUSH? LEMME TELL YOU, MRS. MARTINEZ, UH, IS NOT 17 YEARS OLD ANYMORE, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, OUR PROPOSED GROUND TENANT. THEY'RE NOT GONNA INVEST $30,000 IN ENGINEERING AND DESIGN UNTIL WE COME TO THEM WITH A PROPERTY THAT'S READY TO BE DEVELOPED. AND THAT INCLUDES GETTING THE ZONING OURSELVES AND THE CONDITION, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE UNWILLING TO SELL AND WE'RE INSISTING ON GROUND LEASING, WHICH WE ARE. RIGHT. OKAY. AND I GUESS THIS IS A COMMENT, BUT THAT WOULD SEEM TO UNDERCUT THE CONFIDENCE OF GETTING THIS DONE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T CARE WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S A DENIAL FROM THIS BODY OR NOT TODAY. UH, AND I'LL PASS ALONG WITH THAT. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER KAMATH, ESPECIALLY, REGARDLESS OF, UH, WHAT WE DECIDE TODAY, THE, UH, THIS IS GOING TO THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL ON THE AUGUST THE 20TH, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, ALMOST A MONTH FROM NOW. SO I THINK WE CAN JUST, UH, MAKE A DECISION TODAY LIKE THE APPLICANT WANTS US TO DO, AND THEN, UH, THEN HAVE THEM RESOLVE THIS THING IN ONE MONTH. THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME. THAT'S MY, UH, LOGISTIC COMMENT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONERS? YEAH. [05:40:04] ALL RIGHT. SO THIS WILL BE MY, MY SECOND ROUND . SO YES, THAT'S WHAT I, I WOULD HOPE TO, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE, WHAT THE, EVEN THE MOTION IS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BUT I CERTAINLY HOPE THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS A EARNEST PLEA, UM, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD PERSON AS, UH, WORKING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ON DIFFERENT ISSUES, I THINK IT'S JUST SO VITAL TO HAVE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BUY-IN AND TO WORK TOGETHER. SO I, I, I THINK IT'S WORTH IT. SO I HOPE THAT THERE'S NOT CLOSED DOORS ON BOTH SIDES. I HOPE THERE'S OPEN DOORS, UM, FROM BOTH THE COMMUNITY AND, UM, THE DEVELOPER. BUT ANYWAY, UM, IF, IF, UH, THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO NOW TURN IT TO, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. UM, LET'S, OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, YES, MS. UH, HE'S ANSWERED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS. UM, I'VE GOTTEN, UH, MORE AND MORE TEXTS AND EMAILS, UH, AND COMMENTS. THIS CASE HAS BEEN PRETTY CONFUSING, BUT I STILL WANT TO GO AHEAD ON, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT WE HAVE A SPECIFIC USE, UH, USER. I STILL WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION THAT IT BE APPROVED, UH, FOR THE C TWO COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, BY COMMISSIONER JONES. AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE FOR COMMISSIONER JONES, POSSIBLY TO CONSIDER ADDING, UH, NA FOR NO ALCOHOL USE TO THE C TWO PROPERTY. IF YOU WANT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, JUST TO GIVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD SOME PROTECTION, SHOULD THIS DEAL FALL THROUGH WITH STARBUCKS, I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE MAYBE RECONSIDERATION AND, AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE GONNA BE MOST IMPACTED WITH THIS, UM, AND GIVE THEM TIME TO UNDERSTAND IT'S SUPPOSEDLY A STARBUCKS COMING THROUGH. AND MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE, SINCE WE'VE HEARD IT FROM STAFF, THAT C ONE WOULD ALLOW FOR STARBUCKS THAT THE APPLICANT TAKE THAT BACK TO STARBUCKS AND POSSIBLY AGREE TO THAT BEFORE GETTING TO COUNCIL. THANK YOU. SO MOVED. UH, YES. CAN, CAN I AMEND THAT THEN TO, TO ADD THE NA THE NON-ALCOHOL? OKAY. AND DO WE NEED A SECOND FOR THAT STAFF OR AN AMENDMENT? AMENDMENT? YES. IT'S JUST, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO HER MAIN MOTION. SHE'S ACCEPTING A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT, BASICALLY. MM-HMM. . OKAY. WONDERFUL. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER JONES, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. WE ARE SO EXCITED ABOUT THAT. STARBUCKS OVER IN FRONT OF LLOYD AUCTION. UM, IT WAS OVER AROUND THE CORNER AT LOCKHILL SELMA, AND IT MOVED OVER TO THIS LEASED AREA THAT'S WITHIN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. WE ALSO ACQUIRED THREE QTS. I THINK THEY ALL CAME OVER TO MY PART OF TOWN. WE'RE VERY WELCOMING ABOUT THAT. I LIKE THE SOLUTION. I THINK IT'S VERY WORKABLE. I THINK IT'S A GOOD WAY TO TRY TO GET THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO START TO REALIZE THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ON THAT LAND AND ON THAT STREET. UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD BE WORKABLE. I THINK THE, THE APPLICANT IS RIGHT ON TARGET IN THE DIRECTION HE'S TAKING IT. UM, THOSE WERE PRETTY EXTREME SIGNS THAT WERE SAYING ONE MESSAGE ONLY, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY WORKABLE. WE HAVE SEEN THEM COME IN FOR CASES BEFORE WHERE WE HAVE HAD DEVELOPERS AT THE PODIUM CRYING BECAUSE OF HOW BADLY THEY WERE NEGOTIATING AND, AND NOT NECESSARILY IN GOOD FAITH FOR THAT COMMUNITY. AND NOT, I'M NOT SPEAKING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT, UH, 'CAUSE I THINK ROSE HILL DOES A GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO, TO HELP EVERYONE MEDIC, YOU KNOW, MITIGATE THEIR WAY THROUGH INTO BECOMING COMMERCIAL ON THESE END CAPS, SO TO SPEAK. SO, UM, GOOD JOB. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT MOST, AND, UM, OF COURSE, I'LL, I SECOND IT SOME IN FAVOR OF IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S? DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THE NA WENT IN THERE. UH, I'D STILL PREFER TO SEE A C ONE. UH, THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY REASON [05:45:01] TO DO THAT. UM, STILL SCARED. THIS IS A PIG AND A POKE. THAT IS WHAT TRULY FRIGHTENS ME HERE. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, I APPRECIATE MR. BATTER'S CONFIDENCE. I HOPE HE IS RIGHT. HOWEVER, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE TERMS THAT ARE STILL AT ISSUE, STILL UP IN THE AIR, THERE IS NO GUARANTEE. AND, UH, THIS C TWO WILL RUN WITH THE LAND, AND THAT'LL BE IT. SO I DON'T THINK I CAN SUPPORT THIS MOTION. UM, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER BUSANTE ON THIS. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M STILL NOT COMFORTABLE. UM, AS I SAID EARLIER, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT THE DEVELOPER. I THINK THE, THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF A DEVELOPER SEALED THE DEAL FOR ME. UM, HAVING A LETTER OF INTENT THAT'S LIKELY NON-BINDING, UM, DOESN'T GIVE ME ANY MORE. EVEN IF IT WAS BINDING, UM, IT, IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY GIVE ME ANY MORE, UH, COMFORT IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE THERE REALLY HAS BEEN A LACK OF TRANSPARENCY WITH THE NEIGHBORS FOR WHATEVER REASON. WHETHER IT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS A CONFIDENTIALITY, I'M AN ATTORNEY, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT. UM, I THINK IN THAT CASE, THE PRUDENT COURSE OF ACTION WOULD'VE BEEN TO CONTINUE THE CASE, UM, UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE MAY HAVE BEEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT AND TO NEGOTIATE IN GOOD FAITH WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND TO GET THEM COMFORTABLE WITH THE C TWO ZONING. GIVEN THIS, AND MAYBE TO PUT, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS OR REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY. I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, PUTTING DEEDED RESTRICTIONS ON THERE, OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO GET THESE NEIGHBORS COMFORTABLE. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, AND, AND I ALSO HA I DO HAVE SOME PAUSE. I'M NOT INTENDING TO QUESTION ANYONE, BUT I, I LOOKED AT SOME OTHER STARBUCKS AND, AND MOST OF THEIR SITES ARE, ARE REALLY UNDER ONE ACRE AS SMALL AS POINT 17 OF AN ACRE. SO IT CONCERNS ME THAT, THAT THERE, THAT THIS PROPERTY COULD BE USED BY MULTIPLE USERS IF THE STARBUCKS DECIDED THEY ONLY WANTED 0.2 OF THE 2.1 ACRES. SO THAT TO ME IS CONCERNING. UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND JUST THE C TWO, IT'S, IT'S AN INTENSE USE. IT REALLY IS. UM, WE COULD HAVE A GAS STATION, STARBUCKS COULD, COULD, UM, EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, UM, WHATEVER. IF, IF THEY, IF, IF THE APPLICANT DETERMINES FIVE YEARS IS FINE AND STARBUCKS CAN PURCHASE IT, AND THEN THEY CAN PUT A GAS STATION IN, OR PEOPLE STOP DRINKING COFFEE, YOU NEVER KNOW. IT'S COVID. SO, ANYTHING'S, ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE AT THIS POINT. I'M JUST UNCOMFORTABLE. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. I THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER'S COMMENT, COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YEAH, MY POSITION HAS NOT CHANGED EITHER. IT'S, IT'S STILL FOR ME, THE C TWO THAT'S JUST, UM, FAR TOO CLOSE TO THE R SIX. UM, THE D N A WAS, WAS POSITIVE, BUT I, I DIDN'T HEAR THE NEIGHBORS SAYING THAT THAT WAS THEIR BIG CONCERN WITH THE C TWO. SO, UM, THAT DOESN'T GET RID OF THEIR CONCERNS. I, I, I DO THINK THEY'RE SINCERE ABOUT WANTING TO, BEING WILLING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. UM, THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE ON THE ZONING, BUT I, I DO THINK THEY'RE SINCERE ON THAT, SO I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH. UM, MY POSITION HASN'T CHANGED ON THIS EITHER. VERY MUCH RESPECT, UH, AGAIN, THE POSITIONS OF COMMISSIONERS, UH, ROMERO, BUSTA MONTE, UM, AND, AND EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THE, UH, THAT, AND COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AS WELL, THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS. BUT I THINK JUST LIKE THE QT, UH, JUST LIKE THE, THE CASE WE HAD, UH, AN HOUR AGO, AND ON THIS ONE AS WELL, UM, I'M FOR IT. AND I WILL SUPPORT, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES'S MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, LET'S JUST SAY THAT, UM, I FEEL NERVOUS. IT FEELS LIKE A GAMBLE. LIKE WE ARE, UH, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, UH, NEIGHBORING DISTRICT, SO THAT'S WHERE I SPEND MO A LOT OF MY TIME. MM-HMM. AND, UH, GREW UP. AND SO DEFINITELY DESPERATE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WITH ITS BEING SO CLOSE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THIS IS A LETTER OF INTENT, AND IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, A LACK OF EVEN, IT, IT APPEARS LIKE A LACK OF, LIKE, LET'S JUST GO BACK AND TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, OR WAS IT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL SAID, UM, TO GET THE NEIGHBORS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, JUST TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME. BECAUSE THE, EVERY NEIGHBOR THAT I ASKED, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE AMENABLE TO, UH, DISCUSSION AND GETTING THEIR INPUT ON THE BUFFERING AND [05:50:01] ALL OF THAT. AND THEN, UM, WAS THERE, UH, AND THAT MR. VERTI, UM, PRESENTED, WAS THAT SHOWN TO, UM, TO STARBUCKS? WAS THERE ANY ROOM FOR NEGOTIATION AT ALL? I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY. SO, UM, SO ON ONE HAND, DESPERATE FOR, YOU KNOW, GOOD QUALITY BECAUSE WE GET SOME CRAP OVER THERE. GOOD QUALITY DEVELOPMENT. SORRY, I GUESS THAT WASN'T VERY GOOD. OKAY. BUT ANYWAY, SORRY. BUT , AND THAT'S WHY THE NEIGHBORS ARE NERVOUS AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE NOT TRUSTING BECAUSE OF THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M BARELY BREATHING RIGHT NOW. LIKE, IS THIS FOR REAL? IS THIS LETTER OF INTENT GONNA GO THROUGH? OR ARE MY NEIGHBORS JUST GONNA BE STUCK WITH C TWO? AND WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN THERE? IS THERE GONNA BE ANY NEGOTIATION FOR BUFFERING AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS? SO I DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT HOW I'M GOING TO VOTE, BUT, SO ANYWAY, SO I'M GOING TO, UM, GO AHEAD AND, UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT, CHAIR, IF I CAN JUST REALLY QUICK, I KNOW THAT THE MOTION WAS FOR APPROVAL OF C TWO AND A MM-HMM. , UM, IF THE APPLICANT AGREES TO THE NA, THEN IT, THEY'RE OFFICIALLY AMENDING THAT, AND IT WOULD BE APPROVAL AS AMENDED FOR C TWO AND A. IF THE APPLICANT IS NOT AGREEING TO THE ADDITION OF THE NA, THEN TECHNICALLY IT'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL AS REQUESTED AND APPROVAL OF C TWO AND A. SO, UM, I'M GONNA ASK MR. BATERS TO MUTE. OKAY. HOLD ON A SECOND. I'M GONNA MUTE HIM AGAIN. MR. BATTERS, BEFORE I UNMUTE, MUTE, YOU, YOU NEED TO MUTE WHATEVER SPEAKER THAT YOU HAVE ON, BECAUSE IT'S CAUSING AN ECHO. ONCE, ONCE YOU MUTE THAT, THEN WE CAN UNMUTE YOU, SO THAT WAY WE CAN FIND OUT IF YOU ARE IN AGREEMENT TO ADDING THE NA. OKAY. GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE HIM. OKAY, MR. BATERS. OKAY, IT'S MUTED. I'M NOT SURE I, I JUST UNDERSTOOD THE COMMENTS. UM, COULD YOU WALK ME THROUGH THAT AGAIN? SURE. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR APPROVAL OF C TWO NA NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES DISTRICT. IF YOU AGREE TO THE ADDITION OF THE NA, THEN THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVAL AS AMENDED. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE NA, THEN IT'S A DENIAL OF YOUR REQUEST AND APPROVAL OF C TWO AND A INSTEAD. UH, WE WILL AGREE TO THAT BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN TO A STARBUCKS THAT SERVES BOOZE, BUT I, I MAKE THAT WITHOUT HAVING THE CHANCE TO CONSULT THEM IN CASE THEY WERE PLANNING ON INTRODUCING A LINE OF IRISH COFFEES NEXT WEEK OR SOMETHING. BUT NO, I'LL, I'LL APPROVE WITH IT AS, UH, C TWO AND A. ALL RIGHT, SO IT'S AMENDED TO THE APPROVE. SO THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS APPROVAL AS AMENDED TO C TWO AND A. OKAY. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. RIGHT. ROLL CALL. UH, IS, UH, COMMISSIONER? NO. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? NO. COMMISSIONER? WE NO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO. AND CHAIR MCGEE. OKAY. UM, I GUESS CHAIR. CHAIR. I DIDN'T HEAR YOUR VOTE. I KNOW I HAVEN'T VOTED YET. NO. . OH, OKAY. OKAY. NO. ALRIGHT. MOTION FAILS. UH, THREE TO SEVEN. MOTION TO RECONSIDER ROMERO. GREAT HOUSE. SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR RECON, UH, TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? [05:55:01] YES. MOTION PASSES NINE TO ONE. SO WE, IF LIKE, IF WE WANTED TO ASK FOR A CONTINUOUS, BUT I GUESS THE APPLICANT WOULD HAVE TO BE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT. RIGHT? SO THE APPLICANT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE IN AGREEMENT TO A CONTINUANCE. OKAY. WELL, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. IM MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF THE REQUEST. ROMERO. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE. SECOND. OKAY, SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UM, COMMISSIONERS WITH DIS FOR DISCUSSION I TO YOUR POINT OF INFORMATION. YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, THIS IS A MOTION TO DENY THE ORIGINAL MOTION OF C TWO NA. IT IT'S A MOTION TO DENY C TWO AND A. OKAY, SO THERE IS NO, WE'RE NOT, THERE IS NO MOTION AS TO WHAT IT IS. WE'RE JUST DENYING. AND THEN I BE, WE'RE PLANNING TO COME BACK WITH ANOTHER MOTION. NO. SO THIS IS JUST BASICALLY THE MAIN MOTION NOW, UH, FOR THE REQUEST. AND THE REQUEST IN FRONT OF YOU IS FOR C TWO AND A. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I OKAY. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? NO. COMMISSIONER MIZ? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, UH, AND CHAIR MCGEE? UH, YES. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN TO THREE. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, [8. 20-4272 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700118 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District and “I-2 AHOD” Heavy Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-3 AHOD" High Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for a Recycling Facility with Outside Storage and/or Processing (Excluding Metal Recycling Entity) on Lots 11,12,23 and 24, Block 8, NCB 2118, located at 1203 North Colorado Street and 1406 West Poplar Street. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner 210-207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] AS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO I D D THREE FOR A RECYCLING FACILITY WITH OUTSIDE STORAGE AND OR PROCESSING, EXCLUDING METAL RECYCLING ENTITIES. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AT 1203 NORTH COLORADO STREET AND 1406 WEST POPULAR STREET. THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSI CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA WITH APPROPRIATE BUFFERS AND SCREENINGS ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, ANY IMPACT CAN BE MITIGATE MITIGATED. THERE WERE 28 NOTICES, MAILED THREE RECEIVING FAVOR, EIGHT AND OPPOSITION. GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN OPPOSITION AND ONE INDIVIDUAL OUTSIDE 200 FEET IS IN FAVOR. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. GO AHEAD MADAM CHAIR. OKAY, THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING, MADAM CHAIR. UH, COMMISSIONER, THIS IS EMILY WEISLER WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN 100 NORTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10, SUITE SIX 50 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY AND APPLICANT. UM, OF COURSE, IN THE INTEREST OF EVERYONE'S TIME, I WILL BE AS SUCCINCT AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW IT'S BEEN A VERY LONG AFTERNOON AND EVENING ALREADY. UM, SLIDE TWO PLEASE. AND REALLY REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE FOR THE RECORD. UM, THIS SITE IS A REZONING FROM R FOUR AND I TWO TO IDV THREE. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE STAFF AERIAL, UM, THERE ARE TWO PARCELS INVOLVED. SO, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, IN MY PRESENTATION IS OUTLINED IN YELLOW. IT'S LOCATED ON THE 1200 BLOCK OF NORTH COLORADO, BOUND BY WEST POPLAR AND RIVA STREET NORTHWEST OF DOWNTOWN PROPER. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS SURROUNDED BY A VARIETY OF USES, MOST OF WHICH ARE INDUSTRIAL, INCLUDING, UH, RECYCLING, WAREHOUSING, A BATCHING PLANT, UM, BOOK BINDERS. SO LOTS OF DIFFERENT USES. UH, PRIMARILY INDUSTRIAL IN THIS CORRIDOR LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET IS THE CURRENT TWO CAN RECYCLING FACILITY. IT'S AN EXTENSION OF THE MONTEREY IRON AND METAL BUSINESS MODEL IN THE LER FAMILY WHO HAVE BEEN PART OF SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 120 YEARS. UH, TWO CAN IS A MUCH SMALLER, LESS INTENSE OPERATION THAN MONTEREY. UM, BUT THEIR SITE ON WEST TOLER IS A FULL FUNCTIONING NON FERRIS RECYCLING FACILITY THAT [06:00:01] DOES PROCESSING AND SHIPPING OUT RECYCLABLE MATERIALS FROM MAJOR BUSINESSES TO MILLS ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY. SO BECAUSE, UH, SERVING THE NEEDS OF SAN ANTONIO IS A FOUNDATIONAL FOCUS OF THE LER FAMILY, THIS SITE IS PROPOSED TO BE A RECYCLING COLLECTION STATION GEARED TOWARDS THE CITIZENS, THE RESIDENTS, THE COMMUNITY, AND NOT INDUSTRIAL USERS. SO IF YOU ARE INTO COLLECTING ALUMINUM SET OF CANS OR FINISHED A HOME RENOVATION PROJECT, UM, AND HAVE LEFTOVER COVERING WIRING OR SHEET METAL, THIS WOULD BE THE PLACE THAT YOU COULD BRING THEM AS AN INDIVIDUAL TO GET RECYCLED. WHILE THERE IS RESIDENTIAL TO THE SOUTH AND THE WEST OF THE PROPERTY, AS YOU MOVE AWAY FROM I 10, THIS PROPERTY IS STILL ON THAT MAJOR NORTH COLORADO CORRIDOR AND IN THE VICINITY OF ALL OF THOSE MAJOR INDUSTRIAL USES, UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ENTIRELY VACANT. THIS IS A SLIGHTLY OUTDATED IMAGE, BUT THIS IS ENTIRELY VACANT NOW. UM, AND SO WE'LL SERVE TO SATISFY THE CITY'S MASTER PLAN POLICY OF IMPROVING AN INNER CITY PROPERTY, ENCOURAGING REDEVELOPMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR THIS VERY REASON WHAT AND HOPE AND ACTION VIA FORMAL LETTER RECEIVED EARLIER THIS AFTERNOON. UM, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY ARE IN SUPPORT. SLIDE THREE PLEASE. THIS IS JUST AS ZOOMED IN ARIEL OF THE PROPERTY. UM, IT IS OUTDATED. THE PROPERTY IS COMPLETELY VACANT. UM, NOW, BUT I SHOW THIS VERY SPECIFICALLY SO THAT, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS CAN SEE WHAT WE ARE IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING, UH, TO THE WEST ON REUS AND ON POPLAR. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S INTERNAL ACCESS DRIVES AND PARKING AND SOME OUTDOOR STORAGE, UM, ALONG OUR SHARED PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THOSE TWO PROPERTIES, UM, THAT FRONT REUS AND POPLAR, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL BUFFERING AND FENCING OF COURSE. BUT UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE SITE PLAN AND A FEW SLIDES, THE PROPOSED LAYOUT WAS DONE INTENTIONALLY. SO IT'S TO KEEP THE INTERNAL DRIVE ADJACENT TO ONE ANOTHER, LEAVING THE MOST QUOTE UNQUOTE INTENSE PART OF THE PROJECT, UM, ALONG COLORADO RATHER THAN ENCROACHING, UM, INTO REVIS OR COLORADO. SO, UM, SLIDE FOUR PLEASE. SO AS I MENTIONED, THE THIS IS TWO OVERALL PARCELS PROPOSED FOR REZONING. UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF WHICH IS I TWO. UH, THERE'S A SMALL CORNER PARCEL OF THE CORNER BREUS IN NORTH COLORADO THAT IS R FOUR, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY IS I TWO. TODAY WE ARE REQUESTING A REZONING OF THAT ENTIRE CORNER PARCEL, UM, TO I D D THREE TO ALLOW FOR A COMMUNITY FOCUSED RECYCLING COLLECTION STATION WITH OUTDOOR STORAGE. THERE WILL BE NO PROCESSING OF RECYCLABLE MATERIALS ON SITE. THIS IS STRICTLY A DROP OFF OPERATION. SO RATHER THAN LEAVE THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL AND ZONING INTACT ON THE PROPERTY, THE I D V THREE IS AN ULTIMATE DOWN ZONING OF THE INTENSITY AND PROVIDE US THE ABILITY TO DO THIS VERY SPECIFIC USE WHILE REDUCING THE OVERABUNDANCE OF INDUSTRIAL ZONING IN THE AREA, UM, WHERE IT'S NOT NEEDED BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH WEST END HOPE AND ACTION. UM, AND SEVERAL RESIDENTS AROUND US, UH, GETTING RID OF THE UNNECESSARY INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS WELCOMED. THE USE PROPOSED IS MOST MATERIALLY SIMILAR TO A CAN RECYCLING STATION, UH, BUT THIS SITE WILL ACCEPT OTHER MATERIALS SUCH AS ALUMINUM TOPPER, BRASS, STAINLESS STEEL SHEET METAL, ET CETERA. HOWEVER, AGAIN, THERE IS NO PROCESSING SHREDDING COMPACTING ON THIS SITE. SO RATHER THAN LEAVE, UH, THE PROPERTY OPEN-ENDED, UM, WITH THAT INTENSE INDUSTRIAL ZONING ON PLACE, WE ARE PROPOSING TO REZONE TO I D D THREE FOR THIS VERY SPECIFIC COMMUNITY-FOCUSED RECYCLING COLLECTION FACILITY. SLIDE FIVE PLEASE. AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS ZOOM OUT ZONING MAP, I D D HAS ALREADY BEEN INTRODUCED THE AREA. SO, UM, ID D THREE IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER. AND RATHER THAN CONTINUING THE HARSH TRANSITION BETWEEN INDUSTRIAL, UM, AND RESIDENTIAL, THIS I D D SERVED AS A REDUCED INTENSITY ZONING BUFFER, PARTICULARLY ON THIS MAJOR CORRIDOR OF POPLAR AND NORTH COLORADO. UM, A REHABILITATION OF THE EXISTING VACANT PROPERTY WITH A COMMUNITY FOCUSED INFILL RECYCLING STATION, UH, WITH THE REQUESTED I D C, UH, IS NOT ONLY AN APPROPRIATE AND SUITABLE DISTRICT AS EVIDENCED BY STAFF SUPPORT, BUT A GREAT AND WELCOME USE TO THIS COMMUNITY AS EVIDENCED BY SEVERAL RESPONSES IN SUPPORT INCLUDING WEST END HOPE IN ACTION. AS I ALLUDED TO, THERE ARE TWO ASSOCIATIONS, GARDENDALE AND WESTON HOPE IN ACTION. UM, GARDENDALE BOUNDARIES START ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF NORTH COLORADO. WE HAVE SPENT SEVERAL WEEKS, UM, REACHING OUT TO THIS COMMUNITY AND INTEND TO GET THEM TO FULLY ENGAGE WITH US. UM, I DID HEAR THAT THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION, UM, WHICH JUST CAME IN OVERNIGHT LAST NIGHT. UM, BUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN WILLING TO ENGAGE WITH US, UM, AT ANY POINT IN TIME SINCE THIS APPLICATION HAS BEEN SUBMITTED. HOWEVER, WEST END HOPE IN ACTION HAS BEEN ENGAGED, UH, VERY FULLY WITH US. WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS AND, [06:05:01] UM, AN IN-PERSON MEETING AT A SAFE DISTANCE, UM, WHICH RESULTED IN THEIR LETTER OF SUPPORT. UM, AND THEY'RE SUPPORTING, UH, THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE STATE AND OVERGROW LAW AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENCOURAGE MORE RECYCLING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. UH, SLIDE SIX IS OUR I D D SITE PLAN. UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, IT DOES HAVE OUR INTERNAL ACCESS IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO WHERE THE INTERNAL ACCESS DRIVES AND PARKING AND OVER OUTSIDE STORAGE THAT'S NEXT TO US. IT RUNS ALONG. SO WE DID THAT IN ORDER TO KEEP THOSE MOST SIM SIMILAR PHYSICAL LAND USES ABUTTING ONE ANOTHER AND TO KEEP THE MORE INTENSE PART OF THE OPERATION AS CLOSE TO COLORADO. UM, AS A REMINDER, THIS IS COMMUNITY FOCUSED. SO REGULAR PEOPLE WANTING TO OFFLOAD RECYCLABLE MATERIALS, WE WILL BE ONLY ALLOWING PERSONAL VEHICLES ON SITE, YOU KNOW, BIG COMMERCIAL, 18 WHEELERS, BIG TRUCKS, ANYTHING LIKE THAT. UM, OF COURSE IF THERE'S A PICKUP TRUCK WITH A SMALL BED TRAILER, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO LET THAT IN. UH, CUSTOMERS WILL ENTER IN AND EXIT ON POPLAR, WHICH WAS DONE VERY INTENTIONALLY BASED ON TRAFFIC FLOW IN THE AREA. UM, BUT THERE'S ROOM TO QUEUE INSIDE. SO THEY'LL COME IN, WEIGH THEIR MATERIALS, UM, HAVE MATERIALS PUT INTO THOSE ENCLOSED STORAGE CONTAINERS, AND THEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO EXIT. UM, AS A SIDE NOTE, UH, IN ORDER TO DISCOURAGE THEFT, UH, WE KEEP A LEDGER OF EVERY TRANSACTION IN A SYSTEM THAT TAKES PICTURES OF MATERIALS BEING SOLD, SCANS, IDS TAKE THE PICTURE AT POINT OF SALE, UM, AND REPORTS THOSE SIGNATURES AND THE THUMBPRINT. SO, UM, ALSO KEEPING IN LINE WITH THE INTENTIONAL DESIGN THEME. THE CONCRETE TAG WITH THE SMALL CRANE IS PLACED SPECIFICALLY FURTHER UP TOWARDS POPLAR WHERE THERE ARE MORE INDUSTRIAL USES. UM, THEN CLOSER DOWN ON . SO THIS ENTIRE PROPERTY IS JUST UNDER AN ACRE, BUT THE PROPOSED IMPERIOUS COVER IMPROVEMENT, SO THE DRIVE CONCRETE PADS, STORAGE CONTAINERS ACCOUNT FOR LESS THAN 30% OF THE PROPERTY, IN ADDITION TO PROVIDING AT LEAST FIVE FEET UP PERIMETER LANDSCAPING AND FENCING ALONG WITH THE BUILT-IN BUFFERING OF THE ADJACENT INTERNAL DRIVE. UM, THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF SPACE FOR GREEN SPACE THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY. UM, WE KNOW THAT MANY FOLKS ARE HOME DURING THIS TIME. UM, SO WE'VE MADE SURE THAT THE HOURS OF OPERATION ARE STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS TO MINIMIZE ANY DISTURBANCES, NOISE ISSUES, ET CETERA. UM, THE BECKLER FAMILY HAS, UH, LONG AND ANTONIO, AND THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THEIR COMMITMENT TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY, UM, AS WELL AS INTRODUCE AN OPTION FOR MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS ALIKE TO MORE ACTIVELY RECYCLE. UH, THE LAST SLIDE, SLIDE SEVEN IS JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW. I KNOW I'M RUNNING VERY LOW ON TIME. UM, SO I WILL FEED THROUGH THIS VERY QUICKLY. UM, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A VERY LEAST INTENSE OPERATION, UM, OPERATION, UM, IN THE EXTENUATING, UH, MONTEREY AND IRON METAL COMMUNITY OF BUSINESS MODELS. UM, BUT THIS IS STRICTLY A COMMUNITY ORIENTED RECYCLING COLLECTION STATION. THERE WILL BE NO PROCESSING. UM, AND WE'RE ALSO INCORPORATING, UH, OUTDOOR STORAGE, BUT IN THOSE STORAGE CONTAINERS SO THAT THERE IS NOT ANY, UM, STORAGE OF MATERIALS JUST UNRULY PILED ON THE GROUND. UH, LIKE I MENTIONED, WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH WEST AND HOPE IN ACTION. WE HAVE ENGAGED WITH INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE AREA AND ALONG WITH THE COUNCIL OFFICE ON THIS REQUEST, UM, AND ARE REALLY EXCITED TO BRING FORWARD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING RECYCLING DIRECTLY TO THE COMMUNITY HERE. UM, WE WILL CONTINUE TO TRY TO REACH OUT TO GARDENDALE, UM, AND HOPE THAT THEY WILL ENGAGE BACK WITH US. UM, BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT. UH, WITH ALL THAT SAID, ESPECIALLY REQUEST YOUR RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR THE REZONING. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, STEPH. DID WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. I HAVE THREE OF THEM TO READ FOR YOU, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAIL. ALL RIGHT. THIS ONE IS FROM MA RAA. WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL THAT THE ZONING CASE CAME BEFORE US BECAUSE IT EXPOSED SERIOUS OVERSIGHT WITH THE MAPS THAT ARE BEING USED IN OUR AREA. ACCORDING TO THE OWNERS, THE TUSCAN RECYCLING SITE THAT DEALS WITH HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ITEMS LIKE RADIATORS, COPPER, METAL, AND ALUMINUM, CAME TO OUR AREA 10 YEARS AGO TO START HIS BUSINESS IN A PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE OFTEN WONDERED HOW AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS WAS ALLOWED TO BE BUILT AMONGST A RESIDENTIAL ZONE. NOW THAT WE SEE THE MAP, WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE SERIOUS OVERSIGHT. IT TURNS OUT THE MAPS ARE IN ERROR BECAUSE THEY HAVE EXISTING HOMES ZONED AS I ONE. OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE USE REQUESTED FOR THE PROPOSED PROPERTY IS TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TUSCAN RECYCLING BUSINESS ON 1415 WEST. POPULAR, [06:10:01] POPULAR. THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL GROW THEIR BUSINESS, BUT UNFORTUNATELY THIS WILL FURTHER IMPOSE UPON THE ALREADY EXISTING RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND ITS FAMILY, GIVEN THE CURRENT TIMES WE ARE FACING. AND WITH THE 7 8 2 0 7 ZIP CODE BEING LABELED AS A C OVID 19 HOTSPOT, THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION DID ITS BEST TO INFORM THE IMPACTED RESIDENTS OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. AND THEY TOO WERE PUZZLED WHY THE RECYCLING PLANT WAS ALLOWED IN THE RE RESIDENTIAL AREA TO BEGIN WITH. NOW THERE'S AN I D Z THREE REQUEST FOR AN INDUSTRIAL USE RECYCLING PLANT WAVE STATION TO BE FORCED UPON US IN OUR MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS SURROUNDING 200 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED SITE. RESIDENTS SPOKE OUT AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE BEING PROPOSED DURING OUR ONE-ON-ONE MEETINGS. WE LEARNED THAT WHILE SOME HAD RECEIVED NOTICE ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, MOST DID NOT UNDERSTAND IT MUCH AND OTHERS SIMPLY DID NOT KNOW HOW TO TAKE ACTION TO GET THEIR CONCERNS ACROSS RESIDENTS. VOICE CONCERNS REGARDING THE FOLLOWING POINTS LISTED, LOSS OF CURRENT AVAILABLE PRIVACY AND TRANQUILITY IN THEIR LIVING AREA, INCREASE IN TRAFFIC LINES AND CONGESTION IN THEIR SMALL STREET AFFECTING THEIR DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE, EXIT INCREASED TRAFFIC LINES AND CONGESTION WOULD AFFECT THE EMERGENCY ENTRANCE EXIT FOR ANY E M S OR EMERGENCY SERVICE TO ITS RESIDENTS. DAILY FOOT TRAFFIC AFTER HOURS AND ON WEEKENDS FROM INDIVIDUAL SELLERS THAT MAY TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO STAKE OUT THE RESIDENTIAL HOME PROPERTIES IN THE AREA IN SEARCH OF ITEMS THEY STEAL OR TAKE. HAVING OTHER INDUSTRIAL BUSINESSES TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE MAP ERRORS UPON UNSUSPECTING RESIDENTIAL FAMILY RESIDENCES, RODENTS ODOR, EXHAUST ODOR IN AREA LEFT BEHIND FROM THE VEHICLES, BRINGING THEM MATERIALS TO BE WEIGHED. FACILITY IS OPEN TO LICENSED AND UNLICENSED INDIVIDUALS CARRYING A VARIETY OF MATERIALS THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL HOME AREAS. PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED BY THE PROPOSED SITE AND TRAFFIC. PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE CURRENT HU AND RECYCLING SITE ON POPLAR STREET IS ALREADY IN AN AREA THAT IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER BUSINESSES AND THERE'S NO RESIDENTIAL HOMES SURROUNDING IT. THAT'S, UH, MARCELLA FROM GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE NEXT ONE IS A PETITION AND IT SAYS, AS A RESIDENT OF THE IMPACTED COMMUNITY LIVING WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE SITE, I HAVE BEEN MADE AWARE OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CASE 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 1 8 FOR THE PROPOSED PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1203 NORTH POLK, COLORADO, AND AM AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE BEING REQUESTED. AND THERE ARE 14 SIGNATURES. THE NEXT ONE IS JUSTIN. AFTER GETTING MORE INFORMATION FROM TILLEN GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT WHO ARE REPRESENTING MONTEREY INDUSTRIAL LAND PARTNERS ON THE PROPOSED REZONING HEARING, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE REQUEST. WE RAISED POSSIBLE TRAFFIC CONGESTION CONCERNS, MAINLY AS IT MIGHT PERTAIN TO THE 300 BLOCK OF WEST RIVAS WHERE OUR EMPLOYEES PARK ALONG THE STREET AND OUR LOADING DOCK FACES. WE ARE SATISFIED WITH THE RESPONSES WE GOT FROM BOTH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FERMAN AMONG, ALONG WITH JEFF BECKLER, THAT SHOULD TRAFFIC CONGESTION BECOME A PROBLEM, THEY WOULD WORK OUT A SOLUTION TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM. TRIP WARDEN FROM UNIVERSAL BOOK BINDERY INC. AT 1200 NORTH COLORADO, AND WE DID GET A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM EARLIER TODAY. CAME IN, SEE IF I CAN FIND THAT REAL QUICK. WHILE I'M LOOKING FOR THAT, LET ME HAVE, UH, LORIANNE GO AHEAD AND PLAY. UH, SHE'S GOING TO PLAY THE VOICEMAIL FOR YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS MARIELLA GARZA. I AM PRESIDENT OF THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ADDRESS IS 4 0 9 ARBOR PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 0 7. I AM AGAINST ZONING CHANGE, UH, REQUEST CASE NUMBER Z 2020 DASH ONE OH EIGHT. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO ONE FOUR SIX SIX ONE. I DID WANNA SHARE THAT, UM, IN ANY MEETING WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, THE IMPACTED, UM, AREA, UM, WE WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY AT LEAST, UM, UH, MULTIPLE POINTS OF CONCERN, UM, WITH REGARDS TO LOSS OF AVAILABILITY OF PRIVACY, TRANQUILITY IN THEIR LIVING AREA, INCREASE IN TRAFFIC LANE, UH, LINES, CONGESTION IN THEIR SMALL STREET, INCREASE IN FOOT TRAFFIC, [06:15:01] UM, AND, UM, VAGRANTS THAT MAY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IN THE AREA BECAUSE OF THE, THE NEW, UM, PROJECT THAT'S BEING BROUGHT IN. UH, THEY'RE ALSO CONCERNS ABOUT, UM, RODENTS ODOR, ANY EXHAUST ODORS THAT MAY BE BROUGHT UPON THE COMMUNITY THERE IN THE RESIDENCE. THE FACILITY, UM, UH, WOULD ALSO BE OPEN TO LICENSED AND UNLICENSED INDIVIDUALS CARRYING DIFFERENT TYPES OF MATERIAL THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY IMPACT THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. UM, ALSO THEY, THEY TALKED ABOUT THE PRO THE PROPERTY VALUE BEING A CONCERN, UM, AS, AS IT WOULD BE IMPACTED NEGATIVELY, UM, BY THAT SITE. UH, PLEASE CALL, I AM AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT DURING THIS CORONAVIRUS TIME. THE 7 8 2 0 7 ZIP CODE IS A HOT ZONE AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT IN COMPLETING THESE, UM, INDIVIDUAL INTERVIEWS. ALTHOUGH WE DID OUR BEST AS THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND WE DO STAND BY OUR RESIDENTS, UM, IN THEIR REQUEST TO BE AGAINST THE ZONING, UH, CHANGE. I DID SEND IN AN EMAIL AND I'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE CONSIDERED, UM, TO BE VIEWED, UM, WITH, BECAUSE IT HAS PICTURES THAT, THAT PERTAIN TO THE PROPERTY AREA. MY NAME IS MARIELLA GARZA. I AM PRESIDENT OF THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND I'M AGAINST THE ZONING CHANGE. UH, GOOD MORNING. MY NAME'S RAFAEL GARZA. I AM VICE PRESIDENT OF GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I LIVE AT 4 0 9 ARBOR PLAY AND I AM AGAINST ZONING CHANGE CASE NUMBER Z DASH 2020 DASH SEVEN EIGHT. AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS FOUR THREE SIX ONE SIX SEVEN. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. ALL. THERE ARE THE VOICEMAILS AND THEN THE LETTER IS AS FOLLOWS, THE END HOPE IN ACTION ORGANIZATION FULLY SUPPORTS AND ENDORSES THE REZONING EFFORT AT 1203 NORTH COLORADO AND 1406 WEST POPLAR, WHICH WILL ENCOURAGE MORE COMMUNITY RECYCLING EFFORTS. WE ARE IMPRESSED WITH THE PROPOSED BEAUTIFICATION AND INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN, AS WELL AS THE COMPANY INTEREST IN COLLABORATING WITH WI A ON FUTURE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS. WE THINK THIS IS A WISE INVESTMENT FOR A HEALTHIER FUTURE. CARLOS GONZALEZ CO-CHAIR, MADAM CHAIR. OKAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, WOULD THE, UM, APPLICANT LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? I DO WANT TO CLARIFY, UH, TWO MAJOR ISSUES. UM, A LOT OF THE SIGNATURES ON THAT PETITION, UH, FROM GARDENDALE ARE DUPLICATES, UM, AND OR NOT PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE HAVE REACHED OUT, UM, TO MARIELLA SPECIFICALLY. UM, THAT'S THE BEST CONTACT WE HAD, UM, TO, TO ENGAGE WITH THEM, UM, SEVERAL TIMES OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS. THIS CASE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CONSIDERED ON, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, AND WE HAD, UM, TO POSTPONE FOR A MAPPING ERROR, UM, A NOTICE ERROR. UM, SO WE TOOK THOSE TWO WEEKS AND WORKED REALLY HARD TO TRY TO GET THEM TO RESPOND TO US AND ENGAGE WITH US. UM, BUT THEN THEY WERE ABLE TO AT LEAST GET THIS PETITION. UM, AND WE JUST HAVEN'T, UM, BEEN ABLE TO GET ANY RESPONSE BACK FROM THEM AS WE COULD HAVE ANSWERED. UM, AND PROVIDED A LOT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, AND RESOLUTION TO THE CONCERNS THAT THEY, UM, HAVE VOICED TODAY. UM, ANOTHER IS THE MAP ERROR. UM, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF HOMES IN THE AREA THAT ARE RESIDENTIAL HOMES IN I ONE ZONING. UM, BUT THAT IS NOT A MAPPING ERROR. UM, I WOULD IMAGINE SOME OF THOSE HOMES HAD BEEN THERE BEFORE, UM, THE ZONING WAS IN PLACE OR FOR WHATEVER REASON. BUT THE, THE, THE ZONING IN PLACE, UM, IS CORRECT, UM, FOR THIS AREA AND THAT I, I CHOOSE ZONING SPECIFICALLY THAT TAKES UP MOST OF THE CORRIDOR. UM, FROM OUR SITE HEADED BACK TOWARDS I 10, UM, IS ALL VERY MUCH IN USE, UH, AS FAR AS INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSING PROCESSING USES. UM, SO WE REALLY ARE IN THAT CORRIDOR THERE STILL. UM, BUT ONCE AGAIN, UM, WE HAVE CONTROLLED TYPES OF VEHICLES, CONTROLLED TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE DONE HERE. THIS IS A GOING TO BE FENCED AND BUFFERED. UM, SO WE HAVE A LOT OF MECHANISMS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A SECURE AND SAFE SITE, BUT ALSO A VERY CLEAN ONE. UM, IT'S VERY OVERGROWN RIGHT NOW, SO IT NEEDS A LOT OF WORK TO BRING IT BACK TO LIFE. UM, BUT ULTIMATELY THIS REQUEST, UM, WHILE WE COULD HAVE JUST LEFT VI TWO THERE, REALLY WANTED TO REDUCE THE INTENSITY, UM, AND ZONE IT FOR SOMETHING THAT VERY SPECIFIC, WHICH [06:20:01] IS THIS COMMUNITY-BASED RECYCLING COLLECTION FACILITY. AGAIN, NO PROCESSING. UM, AND THOSE ARE OUR REQUEST. UH, WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UH, BUSANTE. THANK, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UM, I'D LIKE TO START WITH A, A FEW QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, UM, IN THE INTRODUCTION OF THIS MATTER. UM, YOU MENTIONED THE GARDENDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, BUT NOT THE WEST END HOPE IN ACTION. UM, WAS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? 'CAUSE IT WAS INCLUDED, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE AGENDA MEMO. I, WE ARE CHECKING IT NOW. UM, YES, I BELIEVE THEY'RE BOTH PART OF THE NOTIFICATIONS. ONE IS AGAIN AND ONE IS IN SUPPORT. OKAY. AND, AND DO YOU KNOW WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS A AS IN RELATION TO THOSE TWO? IS IT FOR EXAMPLE, IN WESTIN HOPE IN ACTION AND ADJACENT TO UH, GARDENDALE? YES, YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. UH, IT'S WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WITH, IT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN WEST IN HOPE IN ACTION AND THEN GARDENDALE IS WITHIN 200 FEET. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, I DO WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS, THIS MAPS AND ERROR ISSUE AGAIN. UH, 'CAUSE WE DID TALK ABOUT THAT I THINK ON ONE OF MY CASES IN THE LAST MEETING. UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE STOP MAP FOR THIS AREA, THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF I TWO. AND THEN WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT WITH THE SATELLITE, IT REALLY SEEMS I TWO AND I ONE I GUESS, BUT IT REALLY SEEMS LIKE THE USAGES DO NOT NECESSARILY LINE UP AND IT'S KIND OF A HODGEPODGE. IS THAT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION? SO THIS WAS IN THE ORIGINAL 36 SQUARE MILES AND, UM, A LOT OF THIS AREA WAS ZONED L OR OTHER, UH, INDUSTRIAL ZONING AND NEVER WAS REZONED. REMEMBER THE OLD 1938, UH, DISTRICTS WERE CUMULATIVE ZONING. SO IT ALLOWED EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE LEAST INTENSE USE OF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ALL THE WAY UP TO AN INDUSTRIAL USE. SO IN MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS YOU'LL SEE THAT YOU'LL HAVE INDUSTRIAL ZONING TODAY WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BECAUSE WHEN WE ADOPTED THE U THE U D C IN 2001, THOSE DISTRICTS JUST CONVERTED IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN PROPERTY RIGHTS. SO IT'S NOT AN ERROR, IT'S JUST A, UM, THE RESULTS OF THE OLD, UH, 1938 CUMULATIVE ZONING. SO IT'S AN ARTIFACT OF THAT REZONING. IS THAT A FAIR CHARACTERIZATION? YES, YES, THAT'S CORRECT. ALRIGHT. NOW I HEARD DURING SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UM, THAT SOMEONE, OR AT AT LEAST ONE OF THE PEOPLE MENTIONED THAT THIS WOULD BE A FURTHER IMPOSITION OF INDUSTRIAL USAGE HERE. AND I I GUESS THAT'S TRUE FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT R FOUR PORTION THAT'S IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND SOUTHEAST CORNER, BUT, UH, THE I D Z ZONING IS LIMITED IN USE TO WHAT'S REQUESTED. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO THIS WOULD BE FURTHER RESTRICTING IT FROM OTHER I TWO USES. RIGHT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, HAZARDOUS WASTE MATERIAL WASTE STORAGE WOULD BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT IN THE I TWO. OKAY. AND THEN THE CHEMICAL PROCESS, CLOTHING, MANUFACTURING AND THAT KIND OF CORRECT HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USAGE WOULD NO LONGER BE ALLOWED IN THIS AREA? THAT'S CORRECT. UNDER THE CURRENT ZONE. OKAY. UNDER THE PROPOSED, UM, SORRY, PARDON ME. UNDER THE PROPOSED SETTING, FORGIVE ME, UM, STARTING TO GET A COUPLE OF MISFIRES, UM, GIVEN THE LATE HOUR, UH, ALRIGHT FOR THE APPLICANT, ONE OF THE ISSUES RAISED BY, UH, SOME OF THE COMMENTS WERE TRAFFIC LINES. UH, WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO DEAL WITH ANY SORT OF OVERFLOW TRAFFIC THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY AT THIS PROPERTY? SO YES, WE, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT THAT SPECIFICALLY WITH UNIVERSAL BOOK FIND. UM, THEY'RE ACROSS NORTH COLORADO, FRONTING REUS. UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE THE SITE POSITIONED TO WHERE THERE IS ROOM TO QUEUE, UM, ANOTHER VEHICLE IN THERE. WE'RE NOT EXPECTING, QUITE FRANKLY A MASS OF, UH, VEHICLES TRYING TO, UH, RECYCLE MATERIALS HERE. UM, BUT IN THE EVENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS 40,000 PEOPLE IN LINE TO RECYCLE THEIR MATERIALS. UM, THEN WE, UH, WE HAVE THE PROCESSES IN PLACE TO MOVE THOSE, THOSE VEHICLES THROUGH THE SITE VERY QUICKLY. UM, WE DID, UM, DISCUSS WITH THE UNIVERSAL BOOK FIND THAT IF, UM, THERE ENDED UP BEING A CONGESTION ISSUE ON RIVAS, UM, THAT WE COULD FLIP THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT, UM, TO HAVE PEOPLE ENTER IN FROM POPLAR AND COME OUT ON RIVAS. UM, BUT, UM, SO THAT'S AN OPTION. UM, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY. UM, WE'VE MADE THAT VERY, VERY CLEAR TO THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN WILLING TO ENGAGE WITH US, THAT IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES, A TRAFFIC CONGESTION ISSUE, UM, OR [06:25:01] AN ODOR OR A NOISE OR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH THEM TO MITIGATE THAT IMMEDIATELY. UM, BUT WE DO HAVE A REALLY LONG DRIVE ON THIS SITE, ABOUT 15 P WIDE, BUT REALLY LONG DRIVE AND A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO KIND OF MOVE THINGS AROUND, UM, MOVE THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT FURTHER TOWARDS POPLAR, UM, IF WE KEEP THE ENTRANCE ON REVIS, UH, TO ALLOW FOR AN EXTRA ROOM TO CUE CARS. UM, BUT AGAIN, UM, THIS IS A COMMUNITY-BASED RECYCLING FACILITY. UM, AND QUITE FRANKLY, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING, UM, THE MASSES TO TURN OUT HERE. BUT, UM, IF, IF THEY DO, IN FACT, IF THIS IS A WILDLY POPULAR OPERATION, UM, WE WILL MAKE CHANGES. UM, WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE LOCATION OF, UH, THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT, UM, FORCING TRAFFIC TO TURN RIGHT IN AND RIGHT OUT ONLY, OR VICE VERSA. UM, THERE ARE SEVERAL OPTIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, UM, AND ARE WILLING TO DISCUSS AND, AND TRY OUT, UM, IF TRAFFIC WERE TO BECOME AN ISSUE. OKAY. AND WHEN IS THIS GOING BEFORE, UH, CITY COUNCIL? UH, IT GOES BEFORE CITY COUNCIL IN A MONTH IN AUGUST 20TH, I BELIEVE. STAFF CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT ABOUT FOUR WEEKS. THAT'S CORRECT. 20TH. AND, AND IN THAT TIME, IF THIS, UH, MOVES ON FROM THIS COMMITTEE, YOU WILL ENDEAVOR, UM, TO MEET WITH, UH, GARDENDALE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS? YEAH, LEMME ASK. AND SO THIS IS, UM, WE'VE ONLY HAD A PHONE NUMBER TO REACH THEM BY AND THEN, UH, THAT HASN'T OBVIOUSLY BEEN SUCCESSFUL, UM, BUT WITH THE EMAIL THAT CAME IN FROM MS. GARZA TODAY, UM, WE NOW HAVE ANOTHER EMAIL ADDRESS, SO WE WILL TRY THAT AND WE WILL KEEP TRYING, UM, AS WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS TO GET THEM TO ENGAGE WITH US. LET ME ASK WHY NOT JUST, UH, GO FROM POPLAR TO RIVAS, UH, AT THIS POINT, GIVEN THAT VUS HAS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME R FOUR ACROSS THE STREET ON THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF THIS, UM, DO YOU MEAN TRAFFIC FLOW OR, I'M SORRY, TRAFFIC FLOW. SO, SO THE ENTRANCE, THE ENTRANCE FROM POPLAR, YOU MENTIONED THAT ONE OF THE POSSIBILITIES IS THAT THERE IS OVERFLOW TRAFFIC ON VUS IS TO GO FROM, YOU KNOW, FLIP THE TRAFFIC FLOW TO GO INSTEAD FROM VUSS TO POPLAR, FROM POPLAR TO RIVAS, UH, GIVEN THE MORE INTENSIVE USAGE ON THE NORTHERN SIDE, WHY NOT JUST FLIP THAT NOW? SO, UM, REALLY I THINK TWO PRIMARY REASONS. UM, THE LOCATION OF THE DRIVE IS VERY SPECIFIC SO THAT WE'RE ADJACENT TO THOSE DRIVES ON THOSE PROPERTIES. UM, BUT A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD COMES OFF OF 10, UM, EXITING COLORADO, UM, HEADED WEST. UH, YOU TAKE A LEFT UNDER COLORADO, AND SO RATHER THAN FORCING TRAFFIC TO GO LEFT, UM, ONTO POPLAR AND THEN LEFT INTO THE SITE, POPLAR IS, UM, THERE IS A BUS STATION RIGHT THERE. UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC, PARTICULARLY WITH THOSE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL USERS. YOU HAVE A LOT BIGGER VEHICLES COMING IN AND OUT OF POPLAR. UM, AND SO RATHER THAN CREATE A A BIGGER TRAFFIC ISSUE, UM, THERE'S LESS TRAFFIC ON REVIS, WHICH ALLOWS US TO GET PEOPLE IN AND OUT OF THE SITE MUCH QUICKLY OR, UM, AND HAVE THEM NOT HAVING TO TURN LEFT, UM, ONTO THE SITE. UM, THEY WOULD STILL BE EXITING ONTO ARIUS, UM, AND THEN BACK TO POPLAR. BUT AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE, OH, A LEFT INTO POPLAR AND THAT, UM, NOT IDEAL, BUT IF IT WERE TO BE AN ISSUE, UM, LIKE WE SAID, WE'RE HAPPY TO, WE'RE HAPPY TO FIGURE OUT A NEW SOLUTION. OKAY. UH, THANK YOU AND I'LL PASS, UH, FOR QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UM, QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. OH, WAIT, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET ME SAY, HOLD ON, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. UM, SO, UM, SO TO THE APPLICATION, COULD YOU JUST, UM, TELL ME AGAIN, UM, I, I KNOW THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROBABLY, UH, THE FIRST THOUGHTS THAT COME TO MIND WHEN YOU HEAR RECYCLING, UH, ODOR CELL, UH, SMELLS, UM, IT BEING PROCESSED THERE AND WHATNOT. SO CAN YOU JUST ADDRESS THAT REAL QUICKLY ONE MORE TIME? WHAT TYPE OF RECYCLING IS HAPPENING HERE? YES. UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. SO THAT, UM, GREAT QUESTION. UM, AS FAR AS WHAT TYPE OF RECYCLING, QUITE FRANKLY, NONE. UM, THIS IS A COLLECTION FACILITY ONLY. SO ON THE I D Z SITE PLAN, IT SHOWED THE SIZE STORAGE CONTAINERS, AND THAT'S WHERE MATERIALS THAT HAVE BEEN COLLECTED. UM, PEOPLE HAVE DROPPED OFF, AND I DIDN'T MENTION THIS BEFORE, BUT WE WILL BE PAYING REIMBURSING PEOPLE BY THE POUND FOR THE MATERIALS THAT THEY DROP OFF. UM, THEY WILL, THERE WON'T BE ANY CHARGE TO THEM, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO REIMBURSE THEM FOR THEIR MATERIALS. UM, THOSE MATERIALS WILL BE PLACED [06:30:01] IN THOSE BINS AND THOSE BINS WILL BE TRANSPORTED OFF SITE, UM, TO BE PROCESSED ELSEWHERE. SO THIS IS STRICTLY A COLLECTION FACILITY, SO WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY RECYCLING ACTIVELY ON THIS SITE. WE'RE COLLECTING RECYCLABLE MATERIALS, UM, ON THIS SITE. AND AGAIN, RESTRICTING THE TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT CAN COME IN, THE TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT CAN COME IN. UM, WE HAVE STANDARD BUSINESS HOURS, SO IT'S REALLY KIND OF A CONTROLLED OPERATION THAT IS DESIGNED SPECIFICALLY FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, I THINK. I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND SO, UM, WHAT ABOUT THE AESTHETICS, HOW IT WILL LOOK, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, SO, UM, RIGHT NOW THE SITE IS VACANT. UH, IT IS SEVERELY OVERGROWN. UM, THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME SPINELESS CACTUS THAT IS ON PROPERTY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UM, PULL UP AND REPLANT. UM, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A WHOLE NEW LANDSCAPING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY, UM, AND CLEANING THINGS UP. UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE MET WITH, UM, SEVERAL FOLKS FROM WEST END HOPE IN ACTION AGAIN THIS MORNING. UM, AND SINCE THE LAST TIME I HAD BEEN OUT THIS SITE, UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATION OF TRASH ALONG NORTH COLORADO, UM, KIND OF RIGHT THERE ON THAT MAJOR THOROUGHFARE. PEOPLE JUST TOSSING THINGS OUT THE WINDOW. UM, AND SO THERE'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AUTOMATIC IMPROVEMENT, UH, WITH JUST THE CLEANING UP LANDSCAPING OF THE PROPERTY. UM, AND THEN THOSE STORAGE CONTAINERS WILL BE FACING COLORADO. UM, IT WON'T, THERE'S NO OTHER BIG BUILT STRUCTURES ON THERE, UM, BUT WITH THE FENCING AND THE LANDSCAPING, UM, AND THE OVERALL MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, YOU WILL SEE A ALMOST IMMEDIATE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT AESTHETICALLY, UH, TO THE SITE. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND BECAUSE IT'S NOT A, A RECYCLING PROCESSING, UM, THERE'S NOT ANY OF THOSE KIND OF BIG MECHANICAL MACHINERY THINGS TO BE SEEN OR ANY BIG BUILDINGS. UM, SO IT'LL BE, THERE'S A LOT MORE ROOM FOR GREEN SPACE, UM, THAT WE'LL BE MAINTAINING THERE, AND THAT WILL BE JUST AN AUTOMATIC IMPROVEMENT. OKAY. AND I HEARD, UM, A COMMENT OR, UH, OR A CONCERN ABOUT VAGRANT, SO WHAT KIND OF SECURITY MEASURES OR, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE ON THAT PROPERTY? YES, SO, UM, TWOFOLD REALLY, UM, ONE, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY WILL BE FULLY FENCED, UM, WITH A GATE, UM, AT THE ENTRANCE AND THE EXIT, THAT FENCE, UM, IS SIX FEET TALL, I BELIEVE. UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S MORE THAN SIX FEET TALL, UM, BUT SIX FEET TALL. UM, AND THERE'S A GATE THAT WILL BE LOCKED, UM, OUT OF BUSINESS HOURS. AND SO, UM, THERE, THERE'S ALREADY BUILT IN SECURITY THERE. WE'RE SECURING THE FULL SITE. UM, RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT ALL, UH, FENCED IN, BUT WE'LL BE ADDING THAT FENCING IN. AND THEN, LIKE I BRIEFLY MENTIONED, UM, WE ALSO HAVE A PROCESS IN PLACE TO WHERE WE REQUIRE IDENTIFICATION FROM ANYONE, UM, WHO IS BRINGING MATERIALS TO BE RECYCLED. SO WE CHECK THEIR IDS, WE RECORD THEIR IDS, THEY SCAN THE IDS, UM, I BELIEVE THEY TAKE A PICTURE, UM, WHILE THE MATERIALS THAT ARE BEING, UH, DELIVERED AT THE POINT OF SALE OR AT THE POINT OF TRANSACTION, ONCE, UM, WE REIMBURSE THEM FOR THOSE MATERIALS AND WE KEEP A LOG OF EVERY CUSTOMER THAT COMES ON SITE AND EVERYTHING THAT THEY, UM, ARE COLLECT, UM, DELIVERING TO US. SO THAT WAY THAT DETERS FOLKS. SO, UM, IF THERE'S A, A HOME ROBBERY AND SOMEONE STEALS ALL THE COPPER WIRING AND THEN BRINGS IT ON OVER TO US TO GET MONEY FOR IT, UM, TO RECYCLE IT, UM, WE WILL BE ABLE TO TRACK, UM, ALL OF THOSE TRANSACTIONS ON SITE, WHICH HAS PROVEN, UM, WE'VE INSTITUTED THAT ACROSS THE STREET, UM, AT TWO CAN PROCESSING FACILITY. AND THAT HAS, UM, REALLY PROVEN TO BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN, IN, TO TRAIN ANY ACTIVITY. BUT AGAIN, THE SITE ITSELF WILL BE FULLY FENCED AND SECURED. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO COMMENT FOR MYSELF, UH, MAYBE IT'S THE LATE HOUR, BUT I TRY NOT TO USE, UH, TERMS THAT COULD BE POTENTIALLY INTERPRETED AS OFFENSIVE, SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME I FOR REPEATING THAT WORD THERE. BUT ANYWAY, UM, SO, UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, JUST ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF, BECAUSE THIS I GUESS IS MY FIRST I D Z, WHERE WE HAVE THESE CONTAINERS AND THIS IS ATTACHED TO A SITE PLAN, AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS APPROVED, THEN THEY'RE LIMITED TO THE SITE PLAN. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THEY CAN'T ADD CONTAINERS? THEY CAN HAVE NO MORE THAN THE NUMBER OF CONTAINERS THEY'RE SHOWING? THAT WOULD BE CORRECT. I MEAN, IT'S ALL GONNA DEPEND ON THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER AND IF THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING, THIS IS THE, UH, EXACT AMOUNT THAT THEY COULD HAVE THAT THEY'RE RESTRICTED TO. OKAY. AND I, I KNOW WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT [06:35:01] TRAFFIC CONFIGURATION AND IF THEY NEEDED TO GET MORE CARS ONTO THAT SITE AND TO DO THAT, THEY'D HAVE TO MOVE THOSE CONTAINERS. ARE THEY ALLOWED TO MOVE THEM FROM DIFFERENT POSITIONS AS SHOWN? THEY'RE THERE? THERE'S AN ALLOWANCE FOR SOME, UH, SLIGHT MODIFICATION, UH, IN THE MINOR MAJOR AMENDMENTS. UH, BUT, AND, AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT BECAUSE TRAFFIC NEEDS TO REALLY LOOK AT THE DETAILS OF THEIR PROPOSED, UH, PLAN AS THEY GET THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. SO WE DO ALLOW FOR THOSE ALLOWANCES, BUT THE MOMENT IT GETS TOWARDS THE MAJOR IS WHEN IT HAS TO COME BACK FOR THOSE MODIFICATIONS. ZONING COUNCIL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER BUSTA. SORRY, BRIEFLY AND I, I WANNA DO, KEEP IT BRIEF. UM, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE DOING HAZARDOUS MATERIAL, CORRECT? CORRECT. OKAY. UM, HOW FREQUENTLY WOULD THE CONTAINERS BE PICKED UP, DO YOU ANTICIPATE? UM, QUITE, THAT WILL DEPEND ON THE POPULARITY OF THIS. UM, SO SPECIFIC TO THOSE CONTAINERS, UM, WE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED REALLY ONLY MEETING THREE, BUT INCLUDED FIVE JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. UM, SO THAT WILL DEPEND ON HOW QUICKLY THOSE CONTAINERS FILL UP. UM, BUT TWO CAN, UH, RECYCLING PROCESSING IS ACROSS THE STREET, SO WE DO HAVE THAT IMMEDIATE CONVENIENCE OF BEING ABLE TO GET, UM, IF IT DOES GET FULL VERY FAST, UH, WE CAN GET THEM OFF THE SITE IN ORDER TO BE PROCESSED, UH, VERY QUICKLY. UM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY DON'T HAVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER. IT WILL JUST KIND OF DEPEND ON, UM, HOW MUCH MATERIALS WE GET. UM, BUT WE'LL KEEP IT MOVING, UM, BECAUSE IT IS PART, WE WANT TO GET THOSE MATERIALS RECYCLED. UM, SO IT WON'T BE SITTING THERE FOR MONTHS ON END JUST WAITING FOR A CONTAINER TO FILL UP. UM, WE'LL KEEP IT MOVING, I WOULD IMAGINE MAYBE ONCE A MONTH. I'LL, I'LL TAKE, DEPENDS I'LL TAKE PEN AS A STRAIGHT ANSWER. UM, THAT, THAT SEEMS FAIR. UM, NOW ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE WERE MIGHT BE SOME SMELLS. THIS IS NOT GONNA BE ORGANIC MATERIAL, RIGHT? CORRECT. YEAH, NO ORGANIC MATERIAL. THESE ARE COPPER, BRASS, STEEL, UM, THINGS. AND THEY'LL GO IN THOSE CONTAINERS AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THOSE CONTAINERS ARE, UM, CLEANED OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO RODENT ISSUE, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, STAGNANT WATER, WE'LL KEEP EVERYTHING, UM, CONTAINED AND SEALED SO THAT WAY THERE'S NOT THAT PROBLEM. AND, AND WHAT WILL THE CONTAINERS LOOK LIKE? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. UM, WE ARE FINALIZING THOSE PLANS. UM, I, I DON'T KNOW WHO ASKED ME ABOUT THIS, UM, BUT, UM, A NICER VERSION, UM, SIMILAR TO A DUMPSTER, BUT THEY DO MAKE MUCH NICER VERSIONS OF THAT. UM, NOWADAYS THEY MAKE REALLY NICE, UH, STORAGE CONTAINERS, BUT THEY'LL BE, UH, RECTANGULAR IN SHAPE, UM, I BELIEVE WITH A LID. UM, AND SO THOSE WILL BE NEW. THEY WON'T BE, UM, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, CRAPPY CONTAINERS, , BUT THEY'LL BE, THEY'LL BE, UH, SHIELD SHIELDED FROM VIEW, FROM THE STREET, FROM THE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FENCE AND SOME, UM, LANDSCAPING. CORRECT? CORRECT. YES. FROM NORTH COLORADO. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND, AND STAFF FOR A QUESTION, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE PLAN, UH, THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS BEFORE CITY COUNCIL, RIGHT? UM, WELL, IF THE PLAN, IF THE SITE PLAN NEEDS TO BE UPDATED AND AMENDED, IT CAN BE DONE BY, UH, THE TIME IT GETS TO CITY COUNCIL, THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AN AMENDMENT. BUT IF, IF SOMETHING HAPPENS DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, WE HAVE MINOR MAJOR AMENDMENT PROCEDURES THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO DETERMINE WHICH, UH, ROUTE IT IT NEEDS TO FOLLOW. ALRIGHT. UM, ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. ANY OTHER, UM, QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER BUS. ALRIGHT, SO THIS ONE'S DIFFICULT, UH, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE HODGEPODGE OF, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES ZONING, SOMETIMES USE, UM, AND, AND WE END UP HAVING A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A RECTANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT ON THE ONE HAND HAS I TWO, AND ON THE OTHER HAND HAS R FOUR IN A CORNER. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I GET REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHEMICAL USAGE BEING AVAILABLE AS OF RIGHT IN THIS AREA. AND SO, YOU KNOW, GIVEN SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING AND THE SHIELDING FROM VIEW WITH FENCING, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THE DOWN ZONING OF THE I TWO TO A SINGLE [06:40:01] USE THAT SHOULD BE LESS INTENSIVE AND CERTAINLY IS LESS INTENSIVE THAN WHAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE, AS OF RIGHT. UM, I THINK I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER. WAS THAT, UH, WHITE OR WE WHITE? MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER WHITE, ANY, UH, DISCUSSION? OKAY, NO DISCUSSION. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRUB? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITES? AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. UH, CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ONE. I GOT IT. ALRIGHT, [9. 20-4248 ZONING CASE Z-2020-107000130 (Council District 6): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MF-18 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Limited Density Multi-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on the east 130 feet of Lot A1, NCB 13950, located at 5710 McDavitt Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] ITEM NINE. NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO M F 18 ALL OVER LAKE REMAINING THE SAME. AT 57 10 MCT ROAD, THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM CABLE. WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST THE FOURTH. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. MAY WE, UH, HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? HELLO? I YES, HEAR ME? YES. YES MA'AM. YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ZONING COMMISSION. GO AHEAD, PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS NANCY CAMARILLO. I'M A REPRESENTATIVE OF, UM, MR. AND MRS. UH, ANTHONY DE STEFANO OB STEFANO. UM, AND THIS IS REGARDING THE PROPERTY AT MCDAVID. I HAVE DISCUSSED THIS CASE WITH THE STAFF AND THE COMM AND COMMISSIONER HUEY AND HAVE REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE, UM, IN THIS MATTER FOR TWO WEEKS. I BELIEVE THAT'S AUGUST, UM, FOURTH. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, MM-HMM. . SO, UH, STAFF WAS, WERE THERE ANY CALLERS AT THIS TIME OR PUBLIC COMMENT? I'M JUST DOUBLE CHECKING RIGHT NOW, MA'AM. I DON'T HAVE ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS. LET ME JUST CHECK THE FOLDER TO MAKE SURE. NO MA'AM, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMISSIONER LEE. UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. SO I AM IN SUPPORT OF THIS CONTINUANCE, UM, IN MY EMAILS, EXCHANGES WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE STAFF. THERE SEEMS TO BE A NEED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM, AND I AM IN, IN SUPPORT OF A CONTINUANCE. SECOND, DID WE, DID WE MAKE A, DID WE MAKE A MOTION YET? , I MOVE TO CONTINUE , I DENY FOR TWO WEEKS UNTIL THE 4TH OF AUGUST. OKAY, . VERY GOOD. OKAY. COMMISSIONER WHITE, WHO THINKS THAT'S A BRILLIANT MOTION AND I SECOND IT. . OKAY. VERY GOOD. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER, WE AND A SECOND COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY DISCUSSION? DIDN'T THINK SO. OKAY. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YEP. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. OKAY. [10. 20-4089 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700131 (Council District 6): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-2 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Commercial Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lots 2, 3, 4, and 5, Block 3, NCB 8540, located at 2003 Castroville Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO C TWO. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AT 2 0 0 3 CASTVILLE ROAD. THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. BOTH HAVE VENUS AND WEST END, [06:45:01] UH, EXCUSE ME. WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ARE IN SUPPORT. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT WAS GOING TO AMEND THEIR REQUEST TO T ONE MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? ARE JUAN OR LINDA MARTINEZ ON THE LINE? YES. LINDA MARTINEZ. HI, LINDA, GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THE COMMISSION. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES, MA'AM. HELLO? UM, GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS. I'VE BEEN ON THE MEETING WITH THE OFFICE BEFORE ONE O'CLOCK, SO I I KNOW Y'ALL BEEN, UH, ON THIS MEETING FOR A LONG TIME. UM, OUR PROPOSAL FOR CASHFLOW ROAD IS SOMETHING THAT I'M NEW TO. WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY BEFORE, MAYBE ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO. AND WE WERE THINKING ABOUT HAVING A SOMEWHAT OF A BUSINESS THERE, MAYBE LIKE IN THE, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, MAYBE FIVE YEARS. BUT SINCE THE PANDEMIC AND EVERYTHING, MY HUSBAND, HE DID, UH, LOSE HIS JOB. UH, THE COMPANY HE WAS WORKING FOR, UM, IS NOT, UH, NO LONGER GONNA BE OPEN. AND SO WE HAD THIS PROPERTY AND I KNOW IT'S, UM, ON VILLE ROAD WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER COMPANIES THAT A LOT OF OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AROUND. AND, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW THIS, UM, HOW ALL OF THIS, UH, ACTUALLY LIKE, CAME ABOUT OF HOW TO REZONE IN ALL OF THIS. BUT IN, IN TRYING TO GET THIS DONE, I I HAD TO LEARN A LITTLE. AND, UM, SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE ALL WE'RE WANTING TO DO RIGHT NOW AT THE, AT THE TIME IS, UM, HAVE A, LIKE A FOOD TRUCK. UM, AND NOTHING MORE. UH, WE ONLY WANNA, YOU KNOW, WE BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AND WE WANNA HAVE A FOOD TRUCK THAT MY, UM, MY BROTHER ACTUALLY HAS A FOOD TRUCK THAT HE'S WILLING TO LEND US. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO. UM, JUST TO, SO HE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO, UH, LIKE FOR FINANCES AND LIKE AT THE MOMENT, I'M A TEACHER, SO I'LL BE WORKING, BUT HE WON'T. AND THAT WOULD REALLY, UH, HURT US IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO MAKE ANY WAY TO MAKE MONEY. UM, BUT I, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NEW TO US, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW HOW WE'RE DOING ALL THIS. AND AT FIRST WE PUT C TWO AND THEN WE TALKED TO, UH, LOS VENUS ASSOCIATION AND WE TALKED TO, UM, WESTWOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THEY TOLD US THAT IF IT WAS C TWO, THEY WOULDN'T WANT TO APPROVE IT. UM, AND SAY, SO THEN I WAS TALKING TO, I GUESS, UM, MISS, UH, LORRAINE, I BELIEVE HER NAME IS, AND SHE WAS SAYING THAT C ONE, UM, I GUESS, UH, FIRST THEY TOLD ME C ONE WAS IT, UH, F AND THEN I GUESS WITH LIKE A SPECIFIC, UH, SPECIFICS OR SOMETHING. AND THEN NOW IT'S, THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, MAYBE WITH THE C ONE CONDITIONAL, IF I JUST SAY, SINCE THAT'S ALL WE WANNA DO THERE TO SEE IF THAT WOULD GET APPROVED. BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE THAT WOULD WORK. OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. UM, IF YOU'LL HOLD ON THE LINE, UH, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS. OKAY. RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. I HAVE THE COMBINED, UM, LETTER RECEIVED FROM LOS VINAS AND WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. IT'S A JOINT LETTER OF SUPPORT. IT READS THE WESTWOOD, UH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BECAUSE SHE'S NEW TO THE PROCESS. SO, UM, REMIND ME, UH, I'M SO SORRY I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN THE NAME. WHAT'S HER NAME? MS. MARTINEZ. MS. MARTINEZ. SO RIGHT NOW SHE'S GONNA READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND SO AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO ANY PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY. YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES AFTER THIS. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY, DEAR ZONING COMMISSION, THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TOGETHER WITH THE LOS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN DISTRICT FIVE AND SIX HAS RESEARCHED THE REZONE REQUEST FOR THE ABOVE ADDRESS. WE ARE, ARE VOLUNTEERS WHO REPRESENT IN THIS AREA AND ARE MEMBERS OF THE WEST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION COALITION. WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE AREA WITH BUSINESSES SUCH AS COFFEE SHOPS, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL STORES, SKATING RINK, YOUTH ACTIVITIES, ET CETERA. WE ARE IN SUPPORT TO REZONE TO THE REZONE REQUEST FOR THE ABOVE ADDRESS AT A C ONE CD, NOT THE ORIGINAL C TWO BECAUSE IT WILL BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. ONE, THE C TWO ORIGINAL REQUEST IS EXCESSIVE FOR THE INTENDED USE OF THE PROPERTY, THE LOWER ZONING MEETS THE BUSINESS NEEDS [06:50:01] AND PROTECTS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM OVER ZONING DEVELOPMENT. TWO, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE IN OPPOSITION TO BUSINESSES SUCH AS, BUT NOT LIMITED TO TIRE SHOPS, CAR LOTS, PAINT AND BODY SHOPS, MECHANIC SHOPS AND CONSTRUCTION SITES. THREE, WE HAVE WITNESSED THAT THESE TYPES OF BUSINESSES DO NOT PROPERLY DISPOSE OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS IN ACCORDANCE WITH REGULATORY GUIDELINES. SINCERELY, ERIC ADA OF LOS AND VELMA PENA OF WESTWOOD SQUARE. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. AND WE HAVE A LIVE COLLAR, UM, VELMA PENA. SHE ALSO LEFT A VOICEMAIL, BUT SHE WANTED TO BE CALLED IN. SO, UH, SHE SHOULD BE ON THE LINE. MS. PENA? YES, I'M ON. UM, I'M ON CAMERA. YES. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ALMA PENA, PRESIDENT OF THE WESTWOOD SQUARE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET THE ZONING COMMISSION KNOW THAT WE DID MEET VIRTUALLY WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND WE DID OPPOSE A C TWO, BUT WE CAME TO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE C ONE C TWO WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO, UH, PUT THERE AS THEIR BUSINESS FOR A A FOOD TRUCK. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT TO ALLOW THEM TO, UM, GET IT, GET A C ONE, C TWO. THANK YOU. C ONE CD. OKAY. I MEAN, CD, YES. YES. OKAY, . THANK YOU SO MUCH. JUST, UH, HOLD ONE SECOND. LET ME JUST CHECK, UH, TO SEE IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, THEY DON'T. WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, YOUR TIME AND YOUR VOICE. YES, THANK YOU. GOODBYE. OKAY. GOODBYE. ALL RIGHT. UH, MS. UH, MARTINEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE RE A RESPONSE TIME? UM, NO, OTHER THAN REALLY, I MEAN, THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD I DID GROW UP FROM. I MEAN, AND I, I WAS TELLING THE, THE, THE ASSOCIATION OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THEM, THAT IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, BY THE BOOK AND, UH, COMPLY TO EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, WITH THE RULES THAT NEEDS TO BE, UM, DONE. AS LONG AS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST, UM, I, I DO TRUST IN MY HUSBAND'S COOKING. IT'S LIKE THE BEST. AND HE'S HAD OVER 15 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE. AND I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NEW TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO LIKE MAYBE SOME BARBECUE, SOME, SOME OTHER KINDS LIKE PASTAS AND ITALIAN STUFF AND WHATEVER. I MEAN, IT'S STUFF THAT, THAT I THINK IS NEW TO, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT AT LEAST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE HAVE AROUND HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, IF YOU'LL HOLD MM-HMM. , UH, THE LINE JUST FOR A MOMENT, IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. OKAY, COMMISSIONER, WE WELL, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. AND, UH, THANK YOU MS. MARTINEZ FOR, FOR STICKING AROUND. AND, UH, AGAIN, THAT'S, I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. I WANNA THANK THE APPLICANT, THE STAFF AND THE LEADERSHIP OF LOS HARDIN'S AND WESTWOOD SQUARE, AND ALSO THE LOS PALM NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS BECAUSE THESE GUYS WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS DILIGENTLY TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT REALLY FITS THE NEEDS OF WHAT MS. MARTINEZ AND HER HUSBAND'S, UH, HUSBAND NEEDED. SO AGAIN, I WAS VERY, I WAS GLAD TO BE TO, TO KIND OF SEE THAT HAPPENING. AND AGAIN, AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR INPUTS AND COMMENTS FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER LEE, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL . THANK YOU. AND, UH, MS. MARTINEZ. UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR BEING A TEACHER AND YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CHILDREN. , UH MM-HMM. SPENDING TIME WITH MY CHILDREN AND MY GRANDCHILDREN. I KNOW FOR SURE THAT, UH, CAREER PATH IS NOT FOR ME. UM, I JUST, I JUST HAD A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FOOD TRUCK AND, AND THAT'S A GREAT IDEA, AND I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THAT COMMUNITY TO COME UP WITH A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE, UH, OPTION FOR ZONING HERE. BUT SO YOUR FOOD TRUCK, WHAT KIND OF HOURS OF OPERATION DO YOU THINK YOU'LL HAVE? UM, I WAS ASKING MY HUSBAND, 'CAUSE HE'S REALLY, I MEAN, LIKE, I, I SAID I, I AM A TEACHER, SO HE'S REALLY GONNA BE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA BE OUT THERE. UM, HE SAYS THAT ROUGHLY PROBABLY FROM EIGHT TO, UM, LIKE SIX, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO DISTURB. 'CAUSE I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS, THE TRAFFIC, THE, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE ANY DISTURBANCE, UM, IN, IN THAT AREA. UM, THERE IS A TATTOO PARLOR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, OF THAT, UM, THAT PROPERTY. AND I'M PRETTY SURE, I THINK THEY, THEY HAVE HOURS OF, UM, THAT ARE PRETTY LATE. UM, LIKE MOST, UH, TATTOO PARS. BUT, UM, [06:55:01] AT THE MOMENT WE, IT'S LIKE A, SOMETHING WE WE'RE JUST TRYING, SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S GONNA WORK. MM-HMM. , BUT I WOULD IMAGINE SOMETHING BETWEEN THE HOURS OF EIGHT TO SIX, EIGHT TO EIGHT, IF ANYTHING. OKAY. AND IS THAT GONNA BE SIX DAYS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT? UM, PROBABLY ONE DAY OFF. LIKE MAYBE, UM, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, HE GAVE ME A, I I WROTE IT DOWN 'CAUSE I HEARD Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT IT EARLIER. UM, HE TOLD ME THUR THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. THURSDAY TO THURSDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM EIGHT TO SIX. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST, I THINK WITH THE FOOD TRUCK OPERATIONS, YOU'LL PROBABLY FIND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DEMAND AFTER SIX O'CLOCK. I, I'M MORE THAN JUST CURIOUS, SO, YES. THANK YOU. AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT TOO, BUT, WELL, I THINK IT'S JUST THE, TRYING TO SEE WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. WELL, I WISH YOU WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS' QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, SO, UM, MS. MARTINEZ, HOW, WHAT WOULD THE SETUP BE LIKE? UM, DO, DO YOU, UM, ARE YOU JUST GONNA HAVE THE TRUCK THERE? ARE THERE GONNA BE BENCHES OR, UM, LANDSCAPING OR NO? MM-HMM. ? UM, I THINK THAT'S, UM, WE, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO THE WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR, UH, FOOD TRUCKS AND I MM-HMM. I BELIEVE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE, UM, UM, TABLES AND STUFF OUTSIDE UNLESS THEY HAVE A PROPERTY. 'CAUSE MOST FOOD TRUCKS HAVE SOME KIND OF COMMERCIAL PROPERTY ALREADY THERE, THERE'S NO BUILDINGS THERE, SO THERE'S NO RESTROOMS OR ANYTHING. SO I, I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE, UM, TABLES. UM, SO LIKE, UM, AT THE MOMENT RIGHT NOW, IT'S MORE LIKE A DRIVE THROUGH KIND OF THING. JUST GO AND PICK UP AND TAKE AND NOT, NOT, NOT TO HANG OUT THERE AT ALL. OKAY. ESPECIALLY THROUGH THIS STUFF RIGHT NOW. . OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM. . ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? ? OKAY, COMMISSIONER, WE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AT, UH, THIS TIME I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 10, SECOND MCDANIEL. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER. WE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER, UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, CHAIR, I WANTED TO JUST CLARIFY WHAT ARE WE, IS THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF C TWO OR IS THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF C ONE C ONE CD FOR MOBILE FOOD COURT? OKAY. SO LET ME JUST QUICKLY EXPLAIN. THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A MOBILE FOOD COURT AND, AND JUST A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK. A MOBILE FOOD COURT IS THREE OR MORE TRUCKS. THAT'S WHAT CLASSIFIES IT AS A COURT. IT REQUIRES BATHROOMS. THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS AND IT, IT HAS A 200 FOOT DISTANCE SEPARATION. ANYTHING LESS THAN TWO ARE JUST CONSIDERED FOOD, FOOD SERVICE ESTABLISHMENTS. AND THOSE ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT. AND C ONE, IF THE INTENT IS TO, TO DO TWO OR LESS TRUCKS, THERE'S NO CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S NEEDED. I JUST NEEDED TO CLARIFY THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT, UH, SHE, UH, SHE UNDERSTOOD THAT WHEN SHE WAS TALKING TO THE CASE MANAGER ABOUT, UM, A, A MOBILE FOOD TRUCK. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLEAR. SO, UH, MS. MARTINEZ, DO YOU ONLY INTEND THAT ONE FOOD TRUCK ON YOUR PROPERTY, RIGHT? YES. OKAY. SO THEN, UM, WHAT I HEAR THE STAFFER SAY IS THAT ALL WE NEED THEN IS IT'S A C ONE WITHOUT A CONDITION, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. SO, MADAM CHAIR, MAY I AMEND MY MOTION, PLEASE? YES, PLEASE. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 10 TO C ONE SECOND. AGAIN, I JUST WANNA BE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT TO, UH, AMENDING TO THE REQUEST TO C1, JUST FOR THE RECORD. YES, MARTINEZ. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM. ? MM-HMM. . ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF A C ONE BY COMMISSIONER. WE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, ANY DISCUSSION? AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER ROMERO, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP? NO, I JUST WANTED THAT SAME CLARIFICATION THAT STAFF ASKED FOR. I'M GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. I'M LOOKING AT A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S SHOWING FOUR LOTS RESIDENTIAL. I THINK, UH, I WOULD'VE PREFERRED THAT THE APPLICANT REPL PUT THE COMMERCIAL UP FRONT WITH THE LOTS IN THE BACK [07:00:01] OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT WE'RE GIVING UP FOUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS. I THINK WE HAD IN MY, UH, QUITE A DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT GIVING UP RESIDENTIAL LOTS. 'CAUSE WE NEED RESIDENTIAL HOUSES AND THERE'S FOUR OF 'EM SITTING RIGHT THERE. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH JUST A FOOD TRUCK SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A VACANT GRASSY LOT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S ATTRACTIVE TO THE NEIGHBORS AT ALL. THERE'S NO BUFFER IN THE BACK OTHER THAN A, A CHAIN LINK FENCE. SO I DON'T, I'M, I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THE C ONE. I THINK WE HAVE SOME RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT THE OWNER OUGHT TO LOOK INTO DEVELOPING THOSE LOTS. SO I WON'T, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. SORRY. HAVING PROBLEMS UNMUTING? YEAH, I JUST WANNA COMMENT THAT, UM, THAT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION AND THAT I BELIEVE THAT, UM, RE PLATTING THE LOTS IS AN UNDUE BURDEN ON THE APPLICANT. UM, REQUIRING SOMEONE TO REPL IS PROBABLY A PROCESS THAT COSTS 10 TO $15,000. AND IT'S CLEAR THESE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO WORK WITH WHAT THEY'VE GOT. THEY'VE GOT A GREAT IDEA THAT WORKS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, AND IT IS, AND THEY'VE BEEN WILLING TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND TO COME DOWN IN THEIR ZONING REQUESTS. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. MAKE SURE TO, YES. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ONE. OKAY, SO WE'RE MOVING TO CASE 12, RIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, DISTRICT, DISTRICT, UH, TWO CASE, UH, YOUR CAMERA IS, UH, IS NOT ON. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 12 IS [12. 20-4026 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700134 CD (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District to "C-2 CD MLOD-3 MLR-1" Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District with a Conditional Use for a Vocational Trade (Outside Storage and Training Area Permitted) on Lot 1A, NCB 10746, located at 2747 Rigsby Avenue. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment 2020-11600037) (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).] A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A VOCATIONAL TRADE SCHOOL OUTSIDE STORAGE AND TRAINING AREA PERMITTED ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. AT 27 47 RIGSBY AVENUE, THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR TO AN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE PROPOSED C TWO C D WOULD ALLOW FOR A VOCATIONAL TRADE SCHOOL, WHICH IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE SOUND SURROUNDING AREA. SINCE RIG RIGSBY AVENUE IS MAINLY COMPOSED OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES, STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. MAY YOU HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. MR. ARIA, ARE YOU THERE? YES. YES, I'M HERE. OKAY. SIR, YOU GET 10 MINUTES TO PRESENT TO THE ZONING COMMISSION, PLEASE. OH, WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID. I'M SORRY. NO, GOOD. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND PRESENT, SIR. UH, LET THE ZONING COMMISSION KNOW WHAT YOU ARE, UH, INTENDING TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY, PLEASE. OH, OH, OH. SO, OKAY. UH, I'M TRYING TO USE THE PROPERTY AS A, UH, VOCATIONAL CREDIT SCHOOL, WHICH IS FOR C D O, UH, LEARNING SCHOOL. OKAY. UH, OKAY. UM, THANK YOU MS. UM, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, THERE'S ONLY ONE LETTER. IT'S FROM DAVID MON AS MANAGING MEMBER OF M H A C, HOME GREEN, L L C, OWNER OF 1 26 HOME GREEN, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY FOR ZONING CASE Z 1 0 7 0 0 1 3 4. AND PLAN AMENDMENT 0 3 7. PLEASE NOTE [07:05:01] THAT WE ARE VEHEMENT AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IN PLAN AMENDMENT. THE CURRENT OWNERS CLEARED AND GRADED THE, A LARGE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WITHOUT OBTAINING PROPER PERMITS AND HAVING ANY PLAN REVIEW. FURTHERMORE, THEY HAVE CONTINUED TO ADD STRUCTURES AND DO WORK WITHOUT ANY PROPER BUILDING PERMITS, AS WELL AS USE THE PROPERTY FOR STORAGE AND TRACTOR TRAILERS, OR DO MECHANIC WORK ON TRUCKS IN A LOCATION THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR RESIDENTIAL USE ONLY. AND THEY WERE WELL AWARE OF THE VIOLATIONS AND CONTINUE TO DO SUCH. MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, UH, MR. ARIA, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT? UH, YES. I, IF SHE CAN EMAIL, UH, TO THE RE REPLY THAT WE ANSWER, I'LL BE, UH, I'LL BE OKAY FOR THAT. WE ALREADY GIVE AN ANSWER FOR THIS ONE. YOU GAVE AN ANSWER TO THEM OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO GIVE AN, UH, RESPOND TO THE COMMISSION SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU OH, I, YES, I CAN DO. YES. UH, WELL, UH, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE NOT CHANGED ANY, UH, STRUCTURE. I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHERE THEY GET, UH, THIS CLAIM FROM. THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, THEY'RE CLAIMING WE DO, UH, A LOT OF PORTION OF THAT, UH, PROPERLY. WE HAVE NOT, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME, UH, ALL THE END FOLDED DOWN TREES. I CLEARED THEM OUT AND THAT'S NOT ON THE OUTSIDE, IT'S LIKE BEHIND OF MY, UH, PROPERTY END OF THE BUILDING. SO I JUST, UH, CLEARED IT. I DIDN'T DO NOTHING. AND THEN THE GRADED WISE, WE HAVE NOT GRADED THE WHOLE PROPERTY. WHAT I GRADED IS FOR THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF, UH, MY PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WASN'T SMOOTH. AND THEN THERE WAS DOING SOME DAMAGE TO MY, UH, IN AND OUT, UH, CARS. SO I JUST MAKE IT SMOOTH THAT, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, WE HAVE NOT DOING ANY, UH, MECHANIC COURSE IN THERE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT A MECHANIC SHOP. IT USED TO, THE PREVIOUS OWNER WAS A MECHANIC. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PREVIOUS OWNER, BUT AT THIS TIME, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY MECHANICAL WORK ON THIS, ON THIS, UH, UH, PROPERTY. WE'RE JUST WAITING, UH, FOR THIS ZONING CHARGE TO DO THAT. UH, C D L WAS. OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY MECHANICAL WORK ON, ON THIS, ON THIS BUILDING. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, I'VE GOT TO SEE NOW IF, UM, THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF YOU OR OF STAFF COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. UH, WHY WOULD THEY SAY THAT THOUGH, THAT THE VIOLATIONS CONTINUE? WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THAT PROPERTY NOW? UH, THE PROPERTY, I DON'T DO NOTHING, BUT OF COURSE WHAT I DO IS I HAVE, UH, A, UH, TRUCK AND TRAILER RIGHT AT THE MOMENT. THERE ARE, UH, TWO TRUCKS AND ONE TRAILER PARK IT INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. MM-HMM. , OTHER THAN THAT ONE, THEY MENTIONED THERETO VIOLATING, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO TO SAY, BUT, UH, WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING ON THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW. SO THE BUILDING IS UN UNOCCUPIED? YEAH. THE BUILDING? YES. OKAY. OKAY. AND I DON'T SEE A, A DRAFT OF WHAT THE, WHAT THE, WHAT THE TRAINING SCHOOL WOULD LOOK LIKE. I JUST SEE JUST THE GENERAL PROPERTY. IT JUST SAYS, IT JUST SAYS GRAVEL AND I SEE A FEW PARKING SPACES, BUT I DON'T SEE WHERE THE ACTUAL FACILITY WOULD BE. OH, THE FACILITY, THERE IS A BUILDING, UH, BY THE STREET. SO THAT BUILDING WILL USE AS A SCHOOL, AS A JUST TRAINING SCHOOL FOR SAFETY, STUFF LIKE THAT TO TEACH FOR THE STUDENTS. AND THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, I THINK 2.4 SOMETHING, ACRE 42 WILL BE USED AS A, UH, TRAINING FOR THE, FOR THE STUDENTS, WHICH IS BEHIND OF THE BUILDING. OKAY. TRAINING. THEY WOULD BE TRAINING OUTSIDE? NO, INSIDE OF THE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A FEEL OF WHAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD LOOK LIKE. UH, THERE WILL NOT BE CONSTRUCTION. ANY CONSTRUCTION. THERE WILL NOT BE ANY CONSTRUCTION. OKAY. I'M NOT SURE IF I EXPLAINED IT WELL. THE BUILDING IS ALREADY THERE EXISTED. SO THE BUILDING WILL USE AS A, UH, CLASS, LIKE TO TEACH THE, UH, DRIVERS LIKE SAFETY WISE, BUT DRIVING WISE, [07:10:02] I WILL USE THAT, UH, UH, TWO POINT 40 ACRES FOR TRAINING. OKAY. SO THEY'LL BE TRAINING HOW TO DRIVE OWN THAT, OWN THAT BACK PART OF THE LOT. YES. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. I DON'T, AND AND YOU'LL, YOU'LL HAVE TO, YOU'LL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LICENSE FOR ALL THIS, UH, UH, EX WHAT LICENSE? YOU SAID, I'M SORRY. YOU'LL BE REQ. WILL YOU BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LICENSE TO TRAIN THE DRIVERS? I DO HAVE A LICENSE FOR THAT. OKAY. OKAY. I GUESS THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, THIS LOOK LIKE THEY'RE, THEIR MOBILE HOMES ARE NOT TEMPORARY HOMES THAT ARE ON THE STREET. IS THAT, IS THAT WHAT I SEE? MR. SHE'S SHE'S TALKING TO YOU. SHE'S TALKING TO YOU. OKAY. WHAT, WHAT DID SHE SAY? I'M SORRY. SHE, I THINK IT'S NOT IS THAT A MOBILE HOME? AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S NOTHING THERE RIGHT NOW? UH, THERE IS NO MOBILE HOME. UH, JUST THE BUILDING ON 27 47, UH, OFF OF THE STREET THERE IS A BUILDING. OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T HAVE ANY MOBILE HOME THERE. OH, I SEE. OKAY. AND SO THE AUTO AIR CONDITIONING IS STAYING, THAT BUILDING IS STAYING AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS, THE INSIDE CLASSROOM? YES, MA'AM. AND THEN BEHIND YOU, BEHIND YOU, WHERE THE LAND IS, IS WHERE THE OUTDOOR TRAINING HAPPENS? YES. THE, THE BUILDING IS, YEAH. YEAH. THE, UH, INDOOR. INDOOR, YEAH. OUTDOOR TRAINING WILL HAPPEN THERE? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THANK YOU. UM, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, AND I'M SORRY, I'M STILL A LITTLE CONFUSED. SO YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING CLASSROOM TRAINING FOR YOUR DRIVERS, AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THEM OUT IN THE BACK AND TRAIN THEM TO DRIVE A TRUCK. IS IS THAT A SEMI, A SHORT BED? WHAT, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE WE TRAINING THEM TO DRIVE? SEMI. SO A FULL 18 WHEELER? YES. OKAY. SO THEN ARE YOU GONNA BE TAKING THEM OUT ON THE ROAD ONCE THEY, ONCE YOU TRAIN THEM THEIR INITIAL TRAINING IN THE BACKGROUND, THEN YOU'LL BE GOING OUT ONTO THE ROADWAY? YES, CORRECT. OKAY. UM, AND WHAT ARE YOUR HOURS OF TRAINING? UH, UH, WE'LL BE ON IN THE MORNING. OKAY. WHAT TIME WOULD YOU START? APPROXIMATELY 8:00 AM 9:00 AM WE'LL START EIGHT, I MEAN 9:00 AM AND THEN WE WILL END DOING THAT AT, UH, 3:00 PM OKAY. AND IS THAT MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OR IS THAT WAS SATURDAY OR? NO, WE DON'T WORK AS, UH, WEEKENDS. WE ONLY WORK, UH, MONDAY TO FRIDAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND WILL YOU BE MAKING, I, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WILL YOU BE MAKING ANY, UH, EXTERIOR RENOVATIONS TO THE BUILDING? IT, IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS A LITTLE ATTENTION. UH, NO. WE'LL NOT DO ANYTHING. WHAT I WILL DO IS, UH, I WILL, UH, PAINT ONLY, JUST THE, UH, THE SIGN IS STILL THERE FOR THAT AC THEY USED TO DO AC STUFF. MM-HMM. . SO THE ONLY THING THAT I WANNA DO IS I JUST WANNA, UH, DO OUTSIDE PAINTING STAFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? UH, COMM. OKAY. HOLD ON JUST A SECOND. COMMISSIONER GIMS, I WILL COME BACK TO YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, FIRST TIME QUESTIONS. OKAY, I, I HAVE A QUESTION. STEPH, CAN YOU PUT THE ZONING MAP UP, PLEASE? OH, MAN. HELP HELP A SISTER OUT AND MAKE THAT BIGGER. WOW. I CAN'T, UH, CAN YOU ZOOM IN FOR ME? I JUST CAN'T SEE, UM, THE ZONING GUITAR. MAYBE I CAN JUST ZOOM ON MY OWN. WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA TRY TO ZOOM IN. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT OUTTA THE POWERPOINT FORMAT. HOLD ON A SECOND. UM, I WONDER IF I CAN JUST DO IT. I'M GONNA TRY TO, I HAVE, UH, CONTROLS HERE, SO LET ME, I GOT IT. NEVERMIND. I'M SORRY. UM, SO LET'S [07:15:01] SEE. UM, R FIVE, R FIVE, R FIVE. AND, UM, STEPH, SO IS THERE EXISTING HOUSES SURROUNDING, UM, SO TWO QUESTIONS. ONE, I GUESS THIS WAS A NON-CONFORMING USE, EVIDENTLY THE AUTO AC UM, BUSINESS THAT'S, UH, CURRENTLY RESIDING THERE. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. SO, SO YES, IF WE LOOK AT THE, UH, HISTORY WAS ANNEXED IN 1952 AND ZONED A MM-HMM. AND A, A LOT OF THIS AREA PROBABLY HAD ALREADY USES ON THERE THAT WOULD NOW MAKE THEM NONCONFORMING. OKAY. OKAY. AND, UM, HARD FOR ME TO SEE. SO ARE THERE, UM, ANY HOUSES NEARBY, LIKE A BUDDING THIS BUSINESS AT ALL, OR JUST EXISTING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? SO I KNOW FOR SURE THOSE ARE BUSINESSES IN THE FRONT ON FRONTING, UM, I THINK RIGSBY AND BOULDER. BUT ARE THERE ANY HOUSES A BUDDING THAT, THAT'S, UM, I DON'T THINK, UH, IS THAT, THAT MAYBE THAT IS THE HOUSE. OKAY. MOSTLY COMMERCIAL. ALL RIGHT. UM, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE BACK? THERE WERE MAYBE TO THE WEST THERE? MM-HMM. THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, BUT A LOT OF THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONING WAS, UH, VACANT LAND. OKAY. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND LET'S SEE, WAS THERE ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD? UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT'S IT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, NOW COMMISSIONER GIBBONS HAD A QUESTION, UH, TO, TO THE APPLICANT. WILL YOU BE STORING THESE, UH, RIGS ON THE SIDE IN THE BACK? I, I GUESS YOU ARE. IF YOU'RE TEACHING, HOW MANY WILL YOU BE STORING? UH, HOW MANY TRAILERS YOU MEAN? YES. UH, I'M PLANNING TO, TO STORE THREE, THREE TRAILERS FOR TRAINING PURPOSE. OKAY. SO THE THREE TRAILERS, AND THEN THE RIG ITSELF. SO I GUESS THAT'S A COMPLETE, COMPLETE RIG AND TRAILER. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIVENS. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES. ON THE, ON THE, UH, REQUEST FOR THE C TWO, UM, IS THAT, WAS THAT RECOMMENDED TO YOU OR STAFF? CAN YOU HELP ME? WHAT, WHY NOT C ONE? BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY UNDER 5,000 SQUARE FEET. UH, HOLD ON A SECOND. JUST, UH, DOUBLE CHECKING ONE TECHNICALITY IN THE CODE. OH, I SEE. OKAY. SO ACTUALLY THE BUILDING IS 8,000 SQUARE FEET. OH, OKAY. IT SURE DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT FROM HERE. THERE IS A ONE STORY 8,084 SQUARE FEET. OKAY. SO IT WON'T, IT WON'T BE ABLE TO FIT IN C1. OKAY. OKAY. SO COMMISSIONER JONES, IT'S, UM, YOUR, YOUR CASE. SO I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO YOU NOW. OKAY. UM, CONSIDERING THAT HE HAS A, THE, A PLAN AND HIS LICENSE AND ALL, UM, AND THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, I'M RECOMMENDING APPROVAL AS WELL THE C TWO. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND ROMERO. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER JONES, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY DISCUSSION? AND THAT WAS FOR APPROVAL OF C TWO WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE VOCATIONAL TRADE SCHOOL? CORRECT? CAN YOU, CAN YOU I SAY IT VERBALLY? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION. OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. WELL, THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME ACTIVE RESIDENTIAL ROUND THIS ALREADY. UM, IF I GO [07:20:01] DOWN ON THE STREET FROM ON GOOGLE MAPS, THESE LOOK LIKE HOMES. UM, AND IT IS RESIDENTIAL. IT'S ALL ZONED RESIDENTIAL. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA DO MY GOOD DUTY OF THE DAY AND SAVE ANOTHER RESIDENTIAL SITE. SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING I, OKAY. UM, I GUESS I, I, I ASKED ABOUT THE RESIDENTIAL, BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE IT, BUT IF YOU SEE, SO, 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT TOUCHES, BUT I, I GUESS WE'RE OUT OF, UH, REALM. THIS IS STILL DISCUSSION, BUT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO, I GUESS I CAN'T ASK A QUESTION BECAUSE I WONDER IF WE COULD DO A, A SINCE IT'S CONDITIONAL USE OF FRIENDLY AMENDMENT FOR BUFFERING, UM, TOWARDS, UM, THE BACK WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL IS, IS THAT ALLOWED? SO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE AWARE, UM, ANY COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AN AUTOMATIC TYPE B UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER, WHICH IS A 15 FOOT BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENT AND A SOLID SCREEN FENCE THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED BY CODE. OKAY. AND, AND THEN, AND THEN, AND IT WILL BE ENFORCED, UH, BY THE PARTY, WHICH, WHATEVER PARTY WOULD, UH, AS THEY GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, IT, IT'S ENFORCED BY THE CITY. SINCE IT'S REQUIRED BY CODE, THEY CAN'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY UNLESS THEY MEET THOSE STANDARDS. OKAY. THAT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. I COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ONE. OUR OUR YESES ARE GETTING VERY FAINT. . VERY, BUT EVERYBODY'S VERY WEARY. OH MY GOSH. OKAY. [13. 20-4090 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700136 CD (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-5 CD AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for two (2) dwelling units on Lots 29 and 30, Block 4, NCB 7295, located at 409 Agnes Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 4 0 9 AGNES DRIVE. THERE WERE 37 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR MAY HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE. MR. GARINA, ARE YOU THERE? YEAH. UH, THIS ROBERT ANA AND, UH, WANTS GO ALZA? YEAH. YEAH, BOTH ARE HERE. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD SIR. YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES. FEEL FREE TO BE MORE SUCCINCT. GO AHEAD AND GO AHEAD. UH, WE ARE, UH, WANTING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO CONDITIONAL R FIVE SO THAT WE CAN PLACE A DUPLEX ON THERE. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'RE WANTING TO DO. OKAY, THANK YOU. IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? STAFF? NO MA'AM. THERE ARE NO COMMENTS. THIS WAS AN ITEM THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WANTED TO PULL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. AND, UM, I APOLOGIZE TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR PULLING THIS ITEM TODAY, UM, AND EXTENDING THIS NEVER ENDING ZONING HEARING. UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS CASE. UM, ARE YOU AWARE OF THE, UM, NORTH CENTRAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THIS PROPERTY? YES. OKAY. SO IT'S, UM, COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THAT IS? SO, RIGHT NOW THE LAND USE, UH, CATEGORY IS CLASSIFIED AS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. OKAY. AND IS THERE AN ASSOCIATED PLAN AMENDMENT WITH THIS CASE? NO. THE BASE, UH, ZONING OF R FIVE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AS THAT BASE DISTRICT, UH, IS CONSISTENT AND THEREFORE DOES IT NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT TO ANY OTHER LINE USE CATEGORY. OKAY. I GUESS MY QUESTION LIES IN THE DESCRIPTION OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE UNDER THE NORTH CENTRAL NEIGHBORHOODS COMMUNITY PLAN, IT SAYS, AND I QUOTE, DUPLEXES AND ACCESSORY DWELLINGS ARE ALLOWED ON LOTS OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET OR GREATER. SO IS THIS LOT 8,000 SQUARE FEET? [07:25:02] SO NO, THIS LOT IS NOT 8,000 SQUARE FEET. UH, THE TEXT OF THE PLAN CAN BE USED AS A GUIDE IN DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE REQUEST OF REZONING IS APPROPRIATE FOR THAT SITE. SO THE ZONING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO USE THAT TEXT OF THE PLAN AS A GUIDE IN THEIR DECISION. UH, REMEMBER THE CONSISTENCY ONLY COMES IN WHEN THEY'RE, UH, CHANGING THE BASE. SO IF THE PROPERTY IS ZONED TODAY, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, NEED A R FOUR CONVERSION ALLOWS A DUPLEX, OR IF IT'S ZONED TODAY FOR RM SIX AND ALLOWS FOR DUPLEX, THEY COULD PULL A BUILDING PERMIT AND NOT MEET THE, UH, LOT SIZE OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S A PREFERENCE IN THE PLAN. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, FURTHER QUESTION, WHAT IS THE PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THIS ZONING DESIGNATION? IF IT'S ONLY TWO UNITS, IT'S ONLY REQUIRED ONE SPACE PER UNIT. CORRECT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I SEE THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED HERE. OKAY. UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. OKAY. I HAD PULLED THIS CASE BECAUSE I, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT IT IS A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND I THINK THE PLAN CLEARLY SAYS THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE 8,000 SQUARE FEET OR GREATER, UM, IN ORDER TO HAVE DUPLEX. SO THAT IS CONCERNING ME. THE STREET IS ALSO EXTREMELY NARROW. UM, AND SO THE PARKING SITUATION IS A CONCERN FOR ME AS WELL. HOWEVER, UM, GIVEN THAT THERE IS A DUPLEX NEXT DOOR, AND GIVEN THAT WE DO NEED MORE, UM, DENSITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IN ORDER TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR FOLKS, UM, I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. SORRY, I SAID SEC. YOU SAID SECOND COMMISSIONER WHITE, OR WAS IT ? COMMISSIONER WHITE, YOU SECOND? UH, YES, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SEED MY SECOND TO COMMISSIONER JONES . OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. MAKE SURE TO UNMUTE. MICHAEL, CAN YOU UNMUTE HIM? OKAY. COMMISSIONER WHITE. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. COMMISSIONER WHITE. WE STILL CAN'T. ALRIGHT. THERE YOU GO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE DOWN TO THE LAST TWO. ITEM [15. 20-4277 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700138 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2NA S AHOD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Specific Use Authorization for an Indoor Rifle and Pistol Range to "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 70, Block 6, NCB 10938, located at 848 Hot Wells Boulevard. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner (210) 207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)] NUMBER 15, A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO N A S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR INDOOR RIFLE AND PISTOL RANGE TO C TWO. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AT 8 48. HOT WELL BOULEVARD C UH, REQUEST MAINTAINS THE BASE C TWO DISTRICT, BUT REMOVES THE NA NON-ALCOHOLIC SALES RESTRICTION AS WELL AS THE S WHICH CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR INDOOR RIFLE AND PISTOL RANGE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. LET ME GET THE NOTICES MAILED. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION. HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND ONE LETTER WAS RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA. IN FAVOR, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? ASHLEY? YES, I'M HERE NOW. HI, GOOD EVENING. UM, IT'S ASHLEY FAIRMAN WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN. HOPE YOU ALL ARE, ARE WELL. UM, [07:30:01] I WILL BE VERY, VERY BRIEF. UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF SLIDES. UM, IF YOU COULD GO TO SLIDE TWO. UH, THE, THE PROPERTY YOU SEE HERE OUTLINED IN BLACK, UM, IS THE REZONING SITE. IT WAS A FORMER, I BELIEVE, MOTOR BANK AREA. UM, THERE IS NO LONGER ANYTHING ON THE PROPERTY. IT'S VACANT NOW. ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO IS REZONED FOR AN INDOOR GUN RANGE. UH, BUT THAT WAS NEVER BUILT. UM, AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY TO THE EAST AND THE SOUTH. THAT WAS PART OF THAT ORIGINAL REZONING REQUEST FOR THE GUN RANGE. UM, AND NOW THIS, THIS AREA ISN'T QUITE UPDATED, BUT NOW THAT PROPERTY IS BEING DEVELOPED AS A A MULTI-STORY STORAGE UNIT. IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. UM, SLIDE THREE PLEASE. UM, HERE IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP. THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL ZONING AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM COMMERCIAL ZONING. WE ARE NOT REQUESTING C THREE, WE ARE REQUESTING TO MAINTAIN THAT C TWO BASE ZONING, BUT TO REMOVE, UH, THE ALCOHOL RESTRICTION. AND WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT TO ALLOW FOR BE BEER AND WINE SALES FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE. GO TO THE LAST SIDE, PLEASE, PLEASE. UH, SO THE PROPOSED USE HERE IS A CONVENIENCE STORE. AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, C TWO CURRENTLY ALLOWS FOR THIS USE, BUT WE'D LIKE TO REMOVE THE NA SO THAT THE, THAT BEER AND WINE CAN BE SOLD. UH, THIS IS A REZONING FOR QUICKTRIP. UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF MENTION IN FRONT OF THEM EARLIER TODAY, BUT, BUT THIS IS A REQUEST, UH, THAT THEY HAVE ON THE AGENDA AND THEY'RE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH THE OTHER. SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THOSE STORAGE UNITS TO THE EAST AND TO THE SOUTH. UH, THOSE WILL PROVIDE SOME BUFFERING OF THE HIGHWAY AND THE CONVENIENCE STORE FROM THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST. UM, AND BEEN WORKING WITH THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT ON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS AND MITIGATION FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT THE INTENT HERE, THEY DON'T, THERE'S NO DIRECT ACCESS TO 37. UH, THE ONLY ACCESS IS, IS FROM HOT WELLS. THE INTENT IS TO CAPTURE EXISTING TRAFFIC ALONG HOT WELLS, UH, WHICH DOES CLASSIFY AS AN ARTERIAL. UH, WE HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE PLANS WITH HIGHLAND HILLS AND THEY HAVE RETURNED THEIR NOTICE AND SUPPORT, UH, WHICH WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE. UH, AND WITH THAT, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT WE DO REQUEST APPROVAL TO KEEP THE C TWO BASED ZONING, BUT TO REMOVE THE NA. AND THEN WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING A REMOVAL OF THAT SPECIFIC USE FOR THE INDOOR GUN RANGE. THANK YOU. UM, STAFF PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. TWO VERY BRIEF LETTERS TO READ. THE HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SUPPORTS THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE QT CONVENIENCE STORE ON HOT WEALTH BOULEVARD ZONING CASE 20 21 0 7 1 3 8. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, CONTACT ME. THANK YOU. JENNIFER RAMOS, PRESIDENT OF HIGHLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THEN ROBERT WILSON AT 8 74. HOT WELL BOULEVARD. WRIGHT STREET IS TOO NARROW, EXIT OFF HIGHWAY ACROSS FROM FIRE STATION. TOO MANY ACCIDENTS, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, WE'LL ATTRACT THIEVES AND BURGLARIES, UNWELCOME TRAFFIC, AND HE IS IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, MS. UH, ASHLEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, TO RESPOND? UM, NO. I, I THINK WE'RE GOOD. UM, JUST REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL AND, AND LIKE I SAID, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER 'EM. OKAY. THANK YOU. THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE. UM, ANY QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. NO QUESTIONS. OKAY. I, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS EITHER. I AM, UH, HAPPY WITH THE PLANS THAT I'VE SEEN. I AM HAPPY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM 15. SECOND. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, MOTION MADE FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER MCGEE. I CAN'T EVEN SAY MY OWN NAME. DEAR LORD . AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMI? YES. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. AYE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. HEY GUYS, WE'RE ROUNDING. HOME BASE [18. 20-4092 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700141 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District and "MF-33 AHOD" Multi-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-1 AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for five (5) dwelling units on Lot 15, the east 25 feet of Lot 14 and the west 25 feet of Lot 16, NCB 3098, located at 233 East Craig Place. Staff recommends Denial. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)] . ALL RIGHT. ITEM NUMBER 18 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE [07:35:01] FROM R SIX TO I D Z ONE WITH USE IS PERMITTED FOR FIVE TO DWELLING UNITS OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. AT 2 33 EAST CRAIG PLACE, THERE WERE 37 NOTICES MAILED 10 WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. NO RESPONSE FROM TOBIN HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. UH, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED. AND THERE WAS ONE NOTICE RECEIVED OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WAS OPPOSED. STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED REQUEST IS OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA. THE AREA HAS BEEN PRIMARILY DEVELOPED AS LARGE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH TRADITIONAL DRIVEWAYS ON EACH LOT. STAFF RECOMMENDS MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY HAVE THE A, THIS IS GONNA BE ASHLEY AGAIN, SO IT'LL BE JUST ONE MOMENT AS WE GET HER BACK ON THE LINE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ASHLEY, ARE YOU BACK WITH US NOW? I'M HERE, YES. HI, GOOD EVENING. VERY GOOD. YOU KNOW THE RITUAL. OKAY. UM, SO I, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU ALL, I'M SURE THAT'S PROBABLY GOOD NEWS. UM, BUT I DO WANNA LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE OF THIS CASE TO THE SECOND MEETING IN AUGUST. I BELIEVE THAT'S AUGUST 18TH. UH, THE OWNER AND DEVELOPER ONE IN THE SAME HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH TOBIN HILL, UM, AND THEN HAD A FOLLOW UP MEETING AT THE END OF LAST WEEK, UH, WHERE THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK RECEIVED. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NOTICES RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, UM, AND A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT THE REQUEST. SO WE'D LIKE THAT ADDITIONAL TIME TO, YOU KNOW, WORK THROUGH THOSE CONCERNS, TALK WITH NEIGHBORS, WORK ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. SO WITH THAT, I WILL LEAVE IT AT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THAT, NO MORE INFORMATION ON THE PROJECT AT THIS TIME, UNLESS OF COURSE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, JUST REQUEST THE APPROVAL OF THE FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. UM, ARE THERE ANY CALLERS AT THIS TIME? UH, STAFF, MA'AM? THERE ARE, THERE ARE NO CALLERS. UM, THERE ARE SOME VOICEMAILS AND SOME LETTERS, BUT IT IS AT YOUR DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT THOSE READ NOW OR WAIT FOR THE FOUR WEEKS. IF IT'S OKAY WITH COMMISSIONERS, I THINK WE'LL STAY IN LINE WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING. IF THERE'S NO CALLERS, WE'LL SAVE IT FOR THE ACTUAL HEARING. ALL RIGHT. , COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, AND I DID, UM, SPEAK WITH, UH, ASHLEY PREVIOUSLY AND, UM, I HAD A PHONE CALL YESTERDAY WITH RICK SHELL, WHO'S WITH THE TOBIN HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, SO THEY ARE ALSO IN FAVOR OF TRYING TO FIND SOME TYPE OF A, UM, A PLAN THAT WILL WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, AND STAY IN CHARACTER. SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE. ITEM NUMBER 18 TO THE AUGUST 18TH MEETING. SECOND. HEY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE AUGUST 18TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION. WE HAD, WAS THERE ONE OF THESE AUGUST MEETINGS WHERE WE HAD A LOT OF CASES? IS THIS, IS THIS, THAT MEETING WE HAD ABOUT 25 CASES ALREADY ON ONE OF THE AUGUST MEETINGS STAFF. UM, WE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, DO SOME QUALITY CONTROL BECAUSE IT, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA GET A DISCUSSION, THIS IS GONNA GET PULLED AND THEY'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ON IT. UM, WOULD THE COMMISSIONER BE WILLING TO PUT IT OFF ANOTHER TWO WEEKS OR THE APP APPLICANT OR NOT? I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I AM, I'M AMENABLE AND, AND I BELIEVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO WOULD BE, UM, BASED ON MY CONVERSATIONS WITH 'EM. SO, UM, ASHLEY, IF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND WEIGHING IN ON THAT? SURE. UM, UM, I THINK OUR PREFERENCE IS DEFINITELY FOR THE FOUR WEEK, BUT IF, IF WE HAD TO CHOOSE TWO WEEKS IS DEFINITELY NOT ENOUGH TIME. UM, SO SIX [07:40:01] WEEKS IS BETTER THAN TWO, BUT, BUT OUR PREFERENCE IS FOR FOUR. I GUESS WE COULD PUT IT, I GUESS YOU COULD PUT IT ON THE 18TH AND THEN ASK FOR A CONTINUANCE IF IT IF OUR PIZZA DOESN'T ARRIVE FOR US TO EAT. UM, NO COVID PIZZA. NO . YEAH, I, I MEAN I JUST, I'M JUST SUGGESTING IT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, NIGHT INTO NINE O'CLOCK ON THE 20 ON THAT. YEAH, BECAUSE I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, 'CAUSE WE NEEDED TO DISCUSS THIS, WE CAN'T, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I DON'T THINK ANY OF US CAN CONTINUE BECAUSE I CAN JUST LOOK AT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. SO I, I JUST, IS IT, WHAT, UH, WHAT ARE YOU GAUGING FOR THAT DAY STAFF? UM, IT, IT SHOULD BE UNDER THE, UNDER THE 25. NORMALLY WE WOULD PUT 25 ON THERE, BUT WE'LL TRY TO STICK TO AROUND 20. WELL, WHAT DID WE HAVE TODAY? , LORD HAVE MERCY. 19. BUT YOU HAD, UM, THREE AND A HALF CONTROVERSIAL CASES OR MORE HIGH PROFILE WITH A LOT OF, UM, PARTICIPATION. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I JUST, WHAT I WOULD SAY ONLY 19 TODAY ANYWAY. OKAY. SO THAT'S, UH, TOTALLY, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I'LL, I'LL LET THAT, UH, BE YOUR FINAL WORD. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, SAY YOU, OKAY. SO I MEAN, I WOULD HOPE THAT IF WE GIVE THEM SOME TIME TO DISCUSS THAT WE GET TO, UM, TO A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY IN OPPOSITION. BUT I DO WANNA BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME AND I, I FRANKLY DON'T LIKE BEING ON, ON THESE UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK EITHER. SO, UM, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THAT SIX WEEKS WOULD BE OKAY, THEN, UM, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER 18 TO SOMEBODY. GIVE ME THE DATE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME. STAFF, PLEASE. OH, HOLD ON A SECOND. WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SEPTEMBER DATES TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T COINCIDE WITH LABOR DAY, SEPTEMBER THE FIRST. WOULD THAT BE RIGHT? THAT'S A TUESDAY IS AND THEN I WE'RE FIGURING THAT OUT. IT'S NOT LABOR DAY, SEPTEMBER 1ST. OKAY. SO, OKAY. WE'VE DETERMINED IT'S NOT LABOR DAY, SO, UH, RIGHT. SO THAT'S, UM, OKAY. AND THEN WHAT DID YOU, DID YOU COMMISSIONER WHITE, DID YOU SAY YOU SECOND THAT? I COULDN'T HEAR. I'M SORRY. YEAH. WELL, NO, I JUST HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. OH MY GOSH. . OKAY. I'M MADAM. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A CONTINUANCE TILL SEPTEMBER 1ST BY SOME LOOPY COMMISSIONERS AND BY, NO, I'M SORRY, BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. AND I'M NOT LOOPY. COMMISSIONER S . MY APOLOGIES. I'M I'M THE LOOPY ONE, THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT. OKAY. . COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE A COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YE YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. OKAY. THANK YOU. HAS EVERYONE, UH, [20. 20-4264 Consideration and Approval of the July 7, 2020 Zoning Commission Meeting Minutes.] REVIEWED THE MINUTES? ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS? OKAY. SEEING THAT THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, DO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? MO MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. AYE. [07:45:01] COMMISSIONER, UH, MCDANIEL? YES. AND COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. OKAY. IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NO, THERE'S NOT, MA'AM. OKAY. OH MY GOSH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. I KNOW, UH, I PRAY DE UH, GREAT ABUNDANT HARVEST FOR YOU. WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE CAN AVOID THIS FROM HAPPENING BE ANYMORE. BUT I WILL CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 9:13 PM AND WISH EVERYBODY REJUVENATING. UH, REST. THANK YOU MUCH. THAT'S THE POURING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.