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AS WELL.THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ANOTHER DAY OF SERVICE.
HOPEFULLY NOT A LONG DAY OF SERVICE, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
UM, AND SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY, UH, CASES OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE, UH, TO MOVE? MADAM CHAIR? I JUST HAVE AN UPDATE FOR YOU REAL QUICK FROM THE LAST VERSION I JUST SENT, UM, RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING.
SO ITEM, ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS GOING TO NEED TO BE ON INDIVIDUAL, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S OPPOSITION TO READ.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 15 NEEDS TO BE ON.
UM, I, I WENT AHEAD AND PLACED IT ON A SECOND.
COMBINED HEARING, THE NUMBER TWO COMBINED HEARING.
THEY ARE, THEY'RE SEEKING A CONTINUANCE TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THEIR SITE PLAN.
UM, AND THERE IS NO WRITTEN OR, UH, CALL IN COMMENTS FOR THEM.
THAT WAS MY RATIONALE ON THAT ONE, BUT IF YOU WANT IT ON INDIVIDUAL, WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, I TRY TO GIVE A LITTLE EXPLANATION UNDERNEATH EACH ITEM AND WHY IT'S WHERE, WHERE IT'S AT.
SO YOU LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU NEED FOR US TO ADJUST.
COMMISSIONER BUS, YOUR, YOUR SOUND IS BREAKING UP.
COMMISSIONER, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? BARELY.
I WILL COME BACK TO YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSI WHILE YOU WORK ON YOUR SOUND.
'CAUSE WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE SAYING.
I WANT, I WOULD LIKE TO MOW THE ITEM NUMBER SIX TO INDIVIDUAL SIX.
SO WE'RE MOVE NUMBER SIX TO INDIVIDUAL.
I HAD REQUESTED A CASEWORKER TO CONTACT THE APPLICANT TO BE, BE PRESENT.
HOPEFULLY, UH, HE WILL BE PRESENT.
I TALKED TO HIM THIS MORNING, BUT HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO, HOW TO DO THAT.
SO HOPEFULLY LET CLARIFICATION FROM THE CITY.
DID THE, UM, WHO, WHO DO YOU THINK YOU, YOU TO? HIS PARTICULAR CASE MANAGER.
DO YOU KNOW WHO IT WAS? YEAH, UH, THAT'S VICTORIA.
DO, DO, DO YOU HELP, UH, STAFF? DO WE KNOW IF, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO HELP HIM, MS. VICTORIA WAS ABLE TO HELP THE, THE APPLICANT.
WE HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER ON OUR LIST FOR A CALL, SO, UM, HOPEFULLY, UM, WHEN WE GET TO THAT ITEM, HE'LL BE ON THE PHONE.
UH, JUST WITH RESPECT TO, UH, THE INTRODUCTORY NOTE, MS. FLORES, IT SAYS 25 CASES.
IS THAT FOR THE EIGHT 18 MEETING OR IS THAT FOR THIS MEETING TODAY? OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT FOR THIS MEETING TODAY, BUT, UH, CAN WE UPDATE THAT, THAT NOTICE? YES, WE'LL DO A QUICK UPDATE.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ON, UH, CASE NUMBER 10, PLEASE.
SO, UM, OF COURSE I HAD TO RESTART MY COMPUTER.
LET'S SEE IF I HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME.
BUT THEY, UM, SO THE REQUEST THAT THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO MAKE IS THE C TWO CD WITH THE OVERSIZED TRUCKS.
AND SO THERE WAS TWO QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF I, I I, I DON'T KNOW HOW I DIDN'T, I THOUGHT THAT, UM, WE WERE GONNA GET AN ANSWER TO, OR MAYBE IT JUST DIDN'T COME TO ME.
UM, IF THE TYPE OF TRUCKS THAT ON, UM, THAT THEY INCLUDED ON THEIR WEBSITE THAT FITS WITHIN THE, WITHIN THAT DESCRIPTION, AND ALSO SINCE IT'S GONNA BE A DOWNGRADE OF ZONING, DOES THAT MEAN, UH, THAT WE HAVE TO RE-NOTICE OR WE DON'T HAVE TO RE-NOTICE? ONE MORE QUESTION.
PLANNING, WHAT DOES THAT DO WITH PLANNING? SO, UM, WE ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT THE, UH, TYPES OF TRUCKS THAT HE SENT US TO SEE IF IT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIDE IN HIS CURRENT DISTRICT.
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IF HE'S GOING, IF HE'S GOING TO REQUEST LOWER THAN A C THREE, IT DOES NEED TO BE RE UM, SO, AND DEPENDING UPON WHAT BASE HE REQUESTS WILL DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT A PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED.SO IF, IF THEY REQUESTED THE C TWO CD, IS THAT, UM, FIT WITHIN THAT, UM, PLAN? NO, IT'S NOT.
IT, IT'S A, THE ONLY THING WITHIN THE PLAN RANGE IS A C ONE.
SO HE COULD DO A C ONE CD MM-HMM.
SO IF HE WANTS C TWO CD, THEN THE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD STILL BE REQUIRED MM-HMM.
BUT, UM, IF HE WANTS TO AMEND, UH, YOU HAVE TO POSTPONE SO IT CAN BE READVERTISED OR RE NOTED FOUR C2.
UM, BUT, BUT WAIT, UM, THE WILL, THOSE TRUCKS THAT YOU SAW THERE, THE, LIKE THE STORAGE TRUCK, UM, THE TYPES THAT WERE ON THAT LINK, DOES THAT FIT IN THAT? IS IT EVEN WORTH OR TIME? WE'RE STILL REVIEWING THAT TO DETERMINE IF, UH, THEY FIT IN ITS CURRENT DISTRICT OR NOT.
SO, BUT WE'RE NOT DONE WITH OUR ANALYSIS.
UH, ANYBODY ELSE? NO, JUST TO SAY, KAT, WHILE Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT CASE, I LOST VISUAL OF EVERYBODY AND Y'ALL WERE CUTTING IN AND OUT ON THE AUDIO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ME OR WHAT'S GOING ON.
YEAH, IF YOU'RE ON YOUR HOTSPOT, IT MIGHT BE YOU.
WELL, WE'LL SEE IF THE LOW BANDWIDTH POPS UP ON OURS.
SO, UM, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, ORDER OF AGENDA OR ANY REQUESTS TO MOVE ANYTHING, UM, DID STAFF HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU NEEDED TO DISCUSS WITH US DURING WORK SESSION? SO WE HAVE A, UM, I POSTED FOR WORK SESSION, OUR CONTINUED DISCUSSION ON, UH, THE MEETING FORMAT AND HOW TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFICIENT.
UH, SO THAT WAY WE MOVE, UH, MORE TOWARDS A STREAMLINED MEETING INSTEAD OF A MEETING WHERE WE END AT NINE, 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
UM, SO ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION COULD DISCUSS IS BEFORE WE WERE, BEFORE WE DID VIRTUAL MEETINGS, UH, WE HAD OF COURSE THE, THE IN-PERSON MEETINGS WHERE WE STILL HAD ITEMS THAT WERE STILL ON CONSENT, EVEN THOUGH WE HAD RECEIVED, UH, LETTERS IN OPPOSITION, UH, THEY WERE STILL ELIGIBLE FOR CONSENT AND IT WAS ALWAYS UP TO THE COMMISSION TO DETERMINE IF THEY WANTED TO PULL THEM OFF OF CONSENT FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
AND SO OBVIOUSLY, UM, UH, I GUESS IT'S, IT'S AUGMENTING OUR PUBLIC INPUT PORTION BECAUSE WE AREN'T DOING IN-PERSON MEETINGS, HAS CAUSED SOME OF THESE MEETINGS TO RUN, UH, A LITTLE LONGER.
SO, UM, COUNCIL, MOST RECENTLY STARTING THIS WEEK WENT TO VIRTUAL MEETINGS.
THEY'RE ALL VIRTUAL MEETINGS NOW, INCLUDING THURSDAY.
WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS, UH, SIMILAR TO US, UH, THEY'VE DONE AN, UH, E-COM WHERE THEY CAN SUBMIT, UH, LETTERS IN OPPOSITION AND SUPPORT IN WRITING.
UH, AND IT WOULD BE PART OF THE WRITTEN RECORD ONLY NOT READ DURING THE MEETING.
UH, HOWEVER, IF THEY WANTED A LIVE CALL BACK, JUST LIKE US, THEY WOULD CALL THEM BACK DURING THE MEETING.
SO, GIVEN THAT COUNSEL HAS MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION, UH, WE, WE WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AND SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO CONSIDER IN ORDER TO PUT, UH, ITEMS BACK ON CONSENT.
UM, SO WE A, ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT WE'VE RECEIVED LIKE WE NORMALLY DID.
HOW MANY NOTICES RECEIVED IN FAVOR, HOW MANY NOTICES IN OPPOSITION CONTINUE TO SEND TO YOU? ALL OF THE LETTERS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED BY EMAIL UP UNTIL THE POINT THE MEETING STARTS.
UM, BUT, BUT STILL CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM ON CONSENT.
AND OF COURSE, IF YOU GUYS WANTED THEM PULL OFF, UH, WANTED THE ITEM PULLED OFF TO INDIVIDUALS SO THE LETTERS COULD BE READ, WE COULD STILL DO THAT.
UH, BUT WE WANTED TO BRING THAT OPTION TO YOU, UH, TO SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA CONSIDER TO STREAMLINE THESE MEETINGS AND MAKE THEM MORE IN LINE WITH COUNCIL.
SO WE USED TO GET, UH, LETTERS VIA EMAIL, BASICALLY,
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UM, WHETHER THEY WERE FOR OR AGAINST THE COMMISSION, THE, SOMETIMES IT WOULD GO SPECIFICALLY TO THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER.UM, OR IT WOULD, UM, SOMETIMES SOME PEOPLE WOULD SEND IT TO ALL OF THEM AND THEN YOU ALL WOULD GET WRITTEN AND YOU WOULD SEND IT TO THE, UH, COMMISSIONER OF RECORD.
BUT IT'S NOT THAT WE WOULD READ THOSE OUT LOUD DURING THE MEETING.
AND SO YOU'RE SAYING, UM, KIND OF ADOPTING THE SAME WAY WE DID WHEN WE WERE MEETING IN PERSON AS FAR AS THOSE WRITTEN, UM, COMMENTS, IS THAT, UM, WE WON'T NECESSARILY READ THOSE AND IT WOULD ALSO NOT PREVENT THE CASE FROM BEING ON CONSENT? OR DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? UH, IN OTHER WORDS, THE CASE COULD REMAIN ON CONSENT MM-HMM.
BUT WE WOULD STILL EMAIL EVERYTHING TO YOU LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE STARTING THIS VIRTUAL MEETING CONCEPT.
UH, THOUGHTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
I DON'T SEE WHY WE WOULD NOT DO IT THE SAME AS WE USED TO DO IT AND NOT DO IT THE SAME AS COUNCIL IS DOING IT NOW.
IT SEEMS COMPLETELY REASONABLE.
COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, THE CITY.
DOES THE COUNCIL HAVE A CUTOFF TIME FOR THE EMAILS? I MEAN, IF WE'RE STILL GETTING EMAILS AT 1130, IT'S JUST KIND OF HARD TO SIFT THROUGH 'EM AND, AND MAKE SENSE OF THEM.
IS THERE A CUTOFF TIME? JUST, UH, FOR ZONING CASES? THERE IS A CUTOFF TIME.
IT'S 4:00 PM THE DAY BEFORE THE MEETING.
JUST LIKE ZONING COMMISSION? YES.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH? UH, WHAT IF, UH, A COMMISSIONER HAS, UH, SOME QUESTIONS TO, UM, ASK THE APPLICANT TO CLARIFY? UH, UH, WILL I BE ABLE TO PULL THAT FROM THE COMBINED CONSENT TO INDIVIDUAL? UH, I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU WANTED TO ASK THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS, JUST LIKE BEFORE WHEN WE DID LIVE IN PERSON MEETINGS, YOU COULD, UH, PULL IT OFF FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION TO ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
KAT, WHAT IF WE, WHAT IF YOU TOOK THE LETTERS AS YOU RECEIVE THEM OR BY THE END OF, AFTER 4:00 PM AND YOU SCAN 'EM IN, JUST LIKE YOU DO A POWERPOINT FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE COULD HAVE THEM THERE TO SCROLL THROUGH THEM IF WE HAD A QUICK QUESTION OR SOMETHING VERSUS TRYING TO SORT THROUGH EMAILS TO GET BACK TO THAT.
I, I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE IT MAYBE AS A, AS AN ATTACHMENT TO THAT ITEM.
UM, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ATTACH IT IN, UH, THE POSTED AGENDA.
BUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS DISPLAYING THEM AS WE READ THEM DURING THE LIVE MEETING.
UM, AND, UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH THIS VIRTUAL MEETING FORMAT, BECAUSE WE NEVER DID DISPLAY THESE LETTERS, UH, BEFORE WHEN WE DID LIVE, UH, WHEN WE DID IN PERSON MEETINGS.
UH, BUT WE DO DISPLAY THEM AS, UH, WE ARE READING THEM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT, DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, MR. MCDANIEL? N NOT QUITE.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, KATT.
I I'M SAYING THAT AS THAT ITEM IS PRESENTED, RATHER THAN HAVING TO READ ALL THE LETTERS INTO RECORD, COULD YOU HAVE THEM THERE AS AN ATTACHMENT THAT WE COULD JUST QUICKLY SCROLL THROUGH AND, AND JUST SO THAT THE RECORD SHOWS THAT WE ACTUALLY VIEWED THEM, THAT WE COULD JUST SCROLL THROUGH THEM VERY QUICKLY.
UM, SPEED READING, IF YOU WILL.
WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS SENDING THE LETTERS THAT WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING TO THE PARTICULAR COMMISSIONER, UH, FOR THAT, FOR THAT CASE.
WHAT WE CAN OFFER IS SEND THEM TO ALL OF YOU SO YOU CAN READ THEM AT YOUR LEISURE.
WOULD THAT WORK? WELL, LET'S SEE.
MR. BUSANTE, ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING ON THE SAME, UH, VEIN? I, I WAS, IN FACT, THAT WAS GOING TO BE MY SUGGESTION.
UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THIS WOULD REQUIRE TWO THINGS, UH, FROM THE STAFF.
ONE IS THAT WE ALL GET THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO REVIEW THESE LETTERS, WHICH IS WHAT KAT JUST SUGGESTED.AND, AND THE SECOND THING BEING, I, I WOULD ALSO LIKE DURING THE PRESENTATION OF THE CASE TO HAVE SORT OF A, A, YOU KNOW, IN FAVOR OF AND AGAINST SUMMARY READ INTO THE RECORD AS WELL.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY EACH COMMISSIONER CAN REVIEW THE LETTERS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THEY WANT FROM THE LETTERS, UH, THAT THEY WANT TO ADDRESS WITH THE APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO 'EM.
BUT ALSO THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME SENSE OF THE COMMUNITY IS READ INTO THE RECORD AS WELL.
YES, WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
WHEN WE READ, UH, WITH CHRISTY READS THE CASES INTO CONSENT, SHE READS A QUICK SUMMARY.
SHE ALSO READS HOW MANY NOTICES WERE MAILED, HOW MANY SENT IN SUPPORT, AND HOW MANY SENT IN OPPOSITION, AND WHETHER OR NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION RESPONDED.
AND THIS WOULD BE JUST ONE OTHER THING.
YOU KNOW, WE RECEIVED X LETTERS AND SUPPORT X LETTERS OUTSIDE OF IT.
IF IT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE IN OPPOSITION 200 FOOT NOTICE.
YES, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
I JUST WANNA ADD THAT IN OUR POSTING, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THESE WRITTEN LETTERS AND COMMENTS WILL NOT BE READ INTO THE RECORD.
THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN READ ALL THIS TIME, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THEY DON'T KNOW ANY DIFFERENT AND THEY'RE JUST ASSUMING THEY'RE PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE THAT CLEAR.
THEY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR LETTERS READ, BUT IF THEY BELIEVE THEY ARE, THEN WE SHOULD READ THEM.
SO WE'RE GONNA CLARIFY THAT IN THE, UH, NOTICES.
YES, THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE COMMUNICATION PLAN.
SHOULD THE COMMISSION DECIDE TODAY THAT THIS IS THE PATH THAT THEY WANNA TAKE, THEN UH, WE'LL BE REVISING OUR NOTICES, UH, AND OUR FLYER EXPLAINING, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THEY WANT THEIR COMMENTS, UH, TO BE PART OF THE RECORD AND HEARD, THEN UH, THEY NEED TO, UH, CHOOSE A VOICEMAIL OR LIVE CALLBACK.
UH, BUT IF THEY JUST WANNA SUBMIT SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT'S PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEAR IN THE COMMUNICATION.
SO TODAY, WE WOULD CONTINUE AS IS LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING.
AND, UM, I BELIEVE WE WOULD BE ABLE TO MODIFY OUR NOTICES FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE'RE WE'RE STILL IN TIME FOR THAT NOTICE, RIGHT? NO, FOR ZONING.
WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THEM NOW.
OH, THEN WE'D HAVE TO START IT FOR SEPTEMBER.
I, ANOTHER QUESTION, UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S POINT.
SO LIKE, IF WE GET JUST A BUNCH OF LETTERS IN OUR EMAIL THAT'S TOO HARD TO SIT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULD PER CASE SEND US THE LETTERS SO THAT WAY IT'S NOT LIKE TRYING TO SORT THROUGH, UH, 20 DIFFERENT LETTERS OR MORE AND NOT, AND THEN FIGURING OUT WHICH CASE THEY EACH GO TO.
WOULD THEY ALL COME AS ONE ATTACHMENT, BASICALLY, OR HOW WOULD THAT WORK? KIND OF LIKE WHAT YOU DO NOW IN THE, THE MEETING.
SO, UM, WE, FOR THE MEETING, WE DO THAT TUESDAY MORNING, WHICH WOULD NOT BE ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU GUYS TO GET THEM.
SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IS AS WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING, UH, SUPPORT LETTERS OR OPPOSITION LETTERS, WE'VE BEEN EMAILING THEM TO THE, TO THE APPROPRIATE COMMISSIONER MM-HMM.
UM, SO THAT WAY YOU GET THEM AS QUICKLY AS WE'VE GOTTEN THEM.
YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO GET THEM UNTIL THIS MORNING.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S ENOUGH TIME.
UM, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, YOU, YOU HAD YOUR HAND UP.
UM, I'M NOT CONCERNED THAT, UH, WE'VE ALREADY SET PRECEDENT ON HOW PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE HEARD.
ALL EMAILS ARE READ, ALL UM, CALL-INS ARE PLAYED, ALL LIVE IN COLLINS ARE RECEIVED.
AND I, WE'VE BEEN DOING THAT SINCE DAY ONE.
AND NOW TO, TO MAKE A TURNAROUND WHEN THE PUBLIC KNOWS THAT THAT'S, UH, THE CASE OF HOW THEY CAN BE HEARD WHEN THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE IN, IN MEETINGS, UH, IN PERSON.
I DON'T DON'T LIKE THAT CHANGE.
UH, SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S NOT MUCH CHOICE, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I THINK IT OUGHT TO STAY HOW IT IS.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN OUT THERE AND THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE FAMILIAR WITH AS FAR AS THEM NOT BEING ABLE TO COME DOWN IN PERSON TO, UH, VOICE THEIR CONCERN.
ALL SHOULD BE READ INTO THE RECORD.
AND I, UH, LIKE MS. GIBBONS, LIKE COMMISSIONER GIBBONS SAID, UH, JUST LIKE SUSAN AND I WERE SAYING EARLIER, WE TOTALLY AGREE ABOUT THAT, IS THAT A COMMUNICATION TO THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT RECEIVE NOTICE WOULD BE, UM, IT'S CRITICAL IN MAKING SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT,
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WHICH IS WHY WE WOULD NOT START THIS NEW PROCESS FOR NOT READING, UH, ALL WRITTEN, UH, LETTERS UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, BECAUSE WE WANNA BE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT IS COMMUNICATED CLEARLY TO EVERYONE AND THAT THEY HAVE A CHOICE.UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
AND, AND ALONG THOSE SAME LINES, I THINK THE NOTICE, UH, ASPECT IS VERY IMPORTANT.
UH, PERHAPS WE CAN PUT AN ITEM ON, UH, NEXT WEEK'S AGENDA JUST TO TALK ABOUT AND GIVE FURTHER NOTICE REGARDING THIS CHANGE AT OUR ACTUAL MEETING ON THE 18TH.
THAT IS AN EXCELLENT SEGUE TO THE NEXT ITEM, OR ACTUALLY THIS.
SO IN 2003, THE ZONING COMMISSION ACTUALLY ADOPTED A RESOLUTION, UH, THAT TALKS ABOUT THESE PROCEDURES INCLUDING, UH, HOW MANY MINUTES AN APPLICANT GETS, HOW MANY MINUTES, UM, UH, SPEAKERS GET.
AND SO WE WOULD, UH, HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT A RESOLUTION BE DONE AT THE NEXT MEETING THAT WOULD OFFICIALLY ADOPT THESE NEW STANDARDS AND PROCEDURES, WHATEVER IS, IS DECIDED ON.
UH, SO THAT WAY WE HAVE AN OFFICIAL RECORD AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT BY A, A CONSENSUS BY THE COMMISSION TO PASS THAT RESOLUTION.
AND BEFORE THAT MEETING, I'LL SEND YOU A COPY OF THAT RESOLUTION AS WELL AS, UH, A DRAFT OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES BASED ON THE DISCUSSION FROM TODAY AND, AND LAST MEETING.
SO, UM, I AGREE WITH DOING A RESOLUTION.
UM, AND ALSO I JUST, AND I BELIEVE THAT IF, UM, IT'S CLEARLY COMMUNICATED TO THE PUBLIC THAT IF THEY STILL WANT TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD, THEY CAN CALL, UH, OR BE CALLED, UM, OR LEAVE A, UH, VOICEMAIL.
AND THEN THE, UM, WE'LL DO LIKE WE DID BEFORE WITH THE LETTERS, JUST HAVE THOSE AHEAD OF TIME AND BE ABLE TO READ AND RESEARCH AND REACH BACK OUT IF WE DEEMED NECESSARY.
AND SO I GUESS WE'RE JUST LEARNING IN THIS NEW ENVIRONMENT, WHAT WORKS AND WHAT DOESN'T WORK.
AND SO NINE O'CLOCK NINE, NINE O'CLOCK MEETINGS,
SO, UM, ANY OTHER, UH, THOUGHTS, COMMENTS? IT'S 1258, SO IT'S ABOUT TIME FOR US TO START OUR MEETING.
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THEN I, UM, I HAVE A STAFF, UH, YES, BUT I, I HAVE, UH, ONE, UH, REQUEST THAT I, ITEM SIX, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE IT TO INDIVIDUAL.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, CHRISTIE HEARD THAT.
UM, NOW ITEM SIX, WE ASKED TO MOVE TO INDIVIDUAL.
WE HAVE MOVED, I BELIEVE WE'VE MOVED IT TO INDIVIDUAL.
IT, IT SHOWS COMBINED ON THE SCREEN.
I HAVE ANOTHER GENERAL QUESTION TO THE STAFF.
UM, IF AN INDIVIDUAL SENDS A EMAIL OR A LETTER AND ALSO THEY, UH, CALL IN, UH, WILL, WILL, ARE Y'ALL ALLOWING THAT TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW? YES.
IF THERE'S LIVE CALLERS, WE CALL THEM IN REAL TIME DURING THE MEETING, ONCE THAT CASE COMES UP AND THEN THEY ARE PATCHED INTO THE CALL IN REAL TIME TO GET THEIR TWO MINUTES.
AND THAT WOULD STILL BE THE PROCESS FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PARTICIPATE ACTIVELY IN THE MEETING, ASIDE FROM ANY KIND OF NOTICE, THEY CAN CALL, THEY CAN REQUEST A LIVE CALL BACK, AND THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT UP TO 10:00 AM ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING.
IS THAT, UH, IN ADDITION TO THE, YOU ARE READING THEIR EMAIL OR A LETTER INTO THE RECORD RIGHT NOW, IF THEY HAVE A LIVE CALLBACK, THEIR LETTER IS NOT, AND THEY SENT AN EMAIL THAT'S NOT BEING READ INTO THE RECORD, BUT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN WE PATCHED THEM THROUGH, WE SAY THEY SENT A, THEY SENT AN EMAIL, BUT HAVE REQUESTED TO BE CALLED BACK INSTEAD.
UM, YES, COMMISSIONER, BEFORE WE START, BUT JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, WE HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAD THEIR EMAILS READ OR LETTERS READ IN, AND THEN WE HAD THEM CALL IN TOO.
SO THAT'S LIKE, THEY GET, UH, TWO SHOTS AT THE COMMISSION.
SO WE, WE NEED TO HAVE TO NOTICED THAT A COUPLE AGO.
WE, WE NOTICED THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, DOING A LITTLE BIT MORE DUE DILIGENCE AND, AND LOOKING AT THE EMAILS THAT WE RECEIVED TO MAKE SURE THAT,
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UH, WE DON'T HAVE, UH, AN EMAIL PLUS A LIVE CALLER.AND I THINK IN THE PAST TWO MEETINGS WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CATCH THAT PRETTY WELL.
SO THAT WAY, AGAIN, IT ONLY EQUALS TWO MINUTES AND NO MORE THAN TWO MINUTES.
UM, I THINK WE NEED TO TEST THE, THE VOICEMAIL REALLY QUICK BEFORE WE START, UH, THE MEETING SO WE CAN MAKE SURE IT'S WORKING.
THIS IS WITH, ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOOD.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE AND I AM THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
MAY WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING, PLEASE? YES.
[Roll Call:]
DO THE ROLL CALL? YES.COMMISSIONER, WE PRESENT COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE PRESENT AND CHAIR MCGEE.
PRESENT FORM IS PRESENT, MA'AM.
UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, STAFF REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF C OVID 19? THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS OR, AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSB OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3.
TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES AND THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL OR ASK, ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.
STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED, AND STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.
LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGN UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS AND SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION.
UM, SO WHEN WE REVIEW, UM, THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON CONSENT AND ON INDIVIDUAL, PLEASE.
[1. 20-4360 (WITHDRAWN) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700152 CD (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "RM-4 H AHOD" Residential Mixed Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-4 CD H AHOD" Residential Mixed Dignowity Hill Historic Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Conditional Use for a Noncommercial Parking Lot on Lots 21, 22, and 23, Block 6, NCB 570, generally located in the 500 block of North Olive Street. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
TODAY THAT ARE WITHDRAWN AND POSTPONED ARE ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS WITHDRAWN.IT ENDS IN 1 5 2 CD LOCATED IN THE 500 BLOCK OF NORTH OLIVE STREET THAT WAS WITHDRAWN.
AND IF THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO COME BACK WITH IT, THEY WILL HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH.
BRAND NEW APPLICATION, BRAND NEW FEE ITEM NUMBER
[5. 20-4423 ZONING CASE Z-2019-10700305 (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "C-1" Light Commercial District, "C-2" Commercial District, "C-2 NA" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District, "C-2 NA CD" Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District with Conditional Use for an Auto Body Repair and Paint Center, and "C-3 NA" General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales District to "MF-18" Limited Density Multi-Family District on 9.708 acres out of NCB 16109 and NCB 16455 and 0.231 acres out of NCB 16455, located at 6460 Babcock Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Mirko Maravi, Senior Planner (210) 207-0107, mirko.maravi@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
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64 60 BABCOCK ROAD.THIS ITEM WILL BE REPUBLISHED AND RENO WHEN THE APPLICANT IS READY TO PROCEED FORWARD.
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COMBINED HEARING ITEMS, NUMBER ONE, THERE ARE ONLY THREE, THREE ITEMS FOR THIS AGENDA.IT'S GONNA BE ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, ITEM NUMBER 11, AND ITEM NUMBER 14.
AND SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE, WE CAN START WITH COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 6 5 4 5 ENRIQUE M BARR PARKWAY.
THERE WERE 16 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM CABLE WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM M I ONE A H O D TO M I ONE F A H O D WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES.
THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM M MS 33 TO C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AUTO, BOAT, AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLE STORAGE OUTSIDE PERMITTED WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 9 0 9 REYNOLDS AVENUE, THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NINE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND GOVERNMENT HILL IS IN SUPPORT.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEMS EIGHT 11 AND 14 I MS. COMMISSIONER SIPES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, UH, AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES.
COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, PLEASE.
AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO THE RECORD ITEMS NUMBER 13 AND NUMBER 14.
THESE ARE SIMPLY FOR THE RECUSAL, RECUSAL OF, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, MAY IT SHOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS NOW, UH, MUTING HER? I'M TRYING TO FIND HER, LET'S SEE.
MUTING HER MICROPHONE AND HER CAMERA FOR THIS PORTION OF THE HEARING.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE R AND C TWO TO M X D WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 93 26 SOUTHWEST LOOP FOUR 10.
ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM SOUTHWEST COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, OR PEOPLE ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY EFFORTS.
AND ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM M MS 33 TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME, LOCATED AT 9 0 9 REYNOLDS AVENUE.
I I DID READ THIS ONE INTO THE RECORD DURING COMBINED HEARING ONE.
WE WILL READ IT AGAIN JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF RECUSAL.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS FROM M MS 33 TO C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AT 9 0 9 REYNOLDS SIX NOTICES MAILED NONE IN FAVOR, NINE IN OPPOSITION.
GOVERNMENT HILL IS IN SUPPORT.
THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE.
I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEMS 13 AND 14.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES.
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COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.THE NEXT ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING ARE ITEM NUMBER NINE AND ITEM NUMBER 15.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO IDZ TWO WITH USE IS PERMITTED FOR 29 UNITS LOCATED AT 61 6 6 11 ORIENTAL AVENUE.
WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
THERE WERE 42 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
COLIN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
AND THERE WAS NO, UH, RESPONSE FROM SAN JUAN GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A ONE MONTH CONTINUANCE ON THIS TO SEPTEMBER THE FIRST.
ITEM NUMBER 15 HAS A DIFFERENT DATE.
AND SO I WILL READ THAT ONE AFTER CONSIDERATION OF ITEM NINE.
UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR MOTION FOR ITEM, UH, THE CONSIDERATION OF ITEM NUMBER NINE.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE.
UM, I MOVE TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER NINE TO SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2020 SECOND.
UM, WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL OF A CONTINUANCE TO SEPTEMBER 1ST BY COMMISSIONER BOOSTER MONTE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
AND ALSO LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS REJOIN, HAS REJOINED THE MEETING.
ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM C THREE TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN RV PARK LOCATED AT 2050 RIGSBY AVENUE.
THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM COMMAND CHIEF COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST THE 18TH.
MADAM CHAIR, UH, LAURA IS OPEN FOR A MOTION, I GUESS.
UM, COMMISSIONER JONES IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE.
I MOVE FOR CONT UH, TO APPROVE VIA CONTINUANCE FOR THE CASE NUMBER 15.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UH, CONTINUANCE, UH, WITH A, UH, BY COMMISSIONER JONES WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
SO NOW WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS. YES MA'AM.
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THE FIRST ITEM[2. 20-4358 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700095 CD ERZD (Council District 8): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-1 MLR-2 ERZD" Residential Single-Family Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Edwards Recharge Zone District to "R-6 CD MLOD-1 MLR-2 ERZD" Residential Single-Family Camp Bullis Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Edwards Recharge Zone District with a Conditional Use for an Assisted Living Facility for up to 16 Residents on Lot 21, Block 12, NCB 14752, located at 7023 West Hausman Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION TODAY IS ITEM NUMBER TWO TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR UP TO, UH, FOR AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY UP 16 RESIDENTS LOCATED AT 70 23 WEST HOUSEMAN ROAD.STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT R SIX WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT AN INTERSECTION OF TWO STREETS IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF TWO STREETS IN FRONT OF MAJOR ARTERIAL.
THIS IS APPROPRIATE FOR A SLIGHTLY MORE INTENSE USE.
THERE WERE 10 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION.
THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THERE WAS ONE NOTICE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.
WE DO HAVE HAWS ON THE LINE FOR THE SAS REPORT, BUT FIRST, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS AMENDED THEIR REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR ASSISTED LIVING UP TO 12 RESIDENTS.
SO THE CONSIDERATION IS NOW FOR 12 RESIDENTS.
R SIX CD ASSISTED LIVING FOR 12 RESIDENTS AND STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
UM, MAY WE HAVE, UH, THE SAS REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE? YES.
UH, MICHAEL MICHAEL ESCALANTE WITH SAS OC FOR PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION.
UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION TO ALLOW AN EXISTING HOUSE LOCATED AT 7 0 2 3 WEST HAUSMAN ROAD TO OPERATE AS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
THE HOUSE HAS BEEN OPERATING AS AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, AND THE ZONING REQUEST WILL INCREASE THE EXISTING IMPERVIOUS COVER ON THE 0.40 ACRE LOT NOR NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ENVIRONMENT.
SOS RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE ZONING CASE.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? CALDWELL.
AND I'M ACTING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER'S BIN IN CALLEN NERE.
UM, AND SO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IS, THIS IS AN EXISTING STATE LICENSE FOR 16 BED.
IT'S A SMALL TYPE B AND IT'S A MODEL OAK SUBDIVISION.
THE BUSINESS WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 2013 AND FORMALLY LICENSED IN 2014.
UH, THE BUSINESS HAS GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE REQUIRED LICENSING CRITERIA, WHICH INCLUDES, UH, THE CITY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THE CITY BUILDING CODE TEAMS THAT, UH, BACK IN 2014 APPROVED THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
AND THEN THEY ALSO PASSED THE RIGOROUS STATE LICENSING REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, FROM THE STATE LEVEL.
SO THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR SEVEN YEARS NOW.
UH, THE, WE, THERE'S NEVER BEEN AT THIS BUSINESS LOCATION, THERE'S NEVER BEEN A VIOLATION AT THE STATE LEVEL OR AT THE CITY LEVEL FOR ANY, UH, NON-COMPLIANCE WITH REGARD TO THE BUSINESS ITSELF.
UH, THE ISSUE, UH, IS THE ZONING SINCE IT WAS ZONED R SIX.
UM, THE FAMILY MEMBERS, I SPOKE TO THEM AND THE FAMILY MEMBERS ACTUALLY, THEY, THEY'VE GOT A FAMILY HISTORY OF OPERATING THESE ASSISTED LIVING, UH, IN RESIDENTIAL SETTINGS.
THEY IMMIGRATED FROM ROMANIA BACK IN THE EIGHTIES, AND, UH, THEY SET UP IN THE, THE NORTHWEST ORIGINALLY AND THEN MOVED INTO THE SAN ANTONIO AREA.
AND SO A NUMBER OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS, PARENTS AND SIBLINGS OWN VERY SUCCESSFUL, UH, ASSISTED LIVING HERE IN THE CITY AND ALSO IN BERNIE.
UH, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT THE FAMILY HAS DONE SUCCESSFULLY FOR MANY DECADES NOW.
UH, BUT IN BERNIE, WHICH IS WHAT THEY'RE VERY ACCUSTOMED TO, BERNIE IS ACTUALLY OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
AND SO THEY, THE OWNERS WERE UNAWARE OF THE ZONING RESTRICTIONS HAVING MOVED INTO NOW THE CITY JURISDICTION WHEN IT CAME TO, UM, THE, THE R SIX LIMITS.
BUT AS FAR AS ALL OF THE OTHER CRITERIA FOR BECOMING A LICENSED FACILITY, HAVING THE COMMERCIAL SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND THE FIRE ALARM PANELS
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AND ALL OF THE A D A DISABILITY ACCESSIBILITY ON THE PROPERTY, ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN MET SINCE THEY OPENED IN 2014.SO, UH, BACK IN MARCH WHEN I ORIGINALLY MET WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND, AND JUST WAS INQUIRING ABOUT THE PROPER WAY TO, TO NAVIGATE, UM, I, I WAS INSTRUCTED TO JUST AS A COURTESY REACH OUT TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS, WHICH I DID.
WE WENT AND, AND SPOKE TO SEVERAL OF THE, THE NEIGHBORS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT PROXIMITY.
AND AT THE TIME I EXPLAINED THAT WE WERE GOING FOR A ZONING WHICH WOULD ALLOW US TO, BY A ZONING STANDARD, LEGALLY OPERATE AND ASSISTED LIVING.
AND AT THE TIME, THE NEIGHBORS THAT I SPOKE TO WAS MICHAEL MENDOLA, WHO'S, UH, RIGHT NEXT TO US ON HOUSEMAN, UH, THE NEIGHBOR DIRECTLY BEHIND US, WHICH IS 6 9 6 6 WILLOW OAK, AND THE NEIGHBOR TO HER SIDE, WHICH IS 6 9 6 2 WILLOW OAK.
AND IN MARCH, UM, ALL OF THEM WERE OKAY AND SUPPORTED THE, THE CONTINUED USE AND THE ZONING CHANGE TO ALLOW THE ASSISTED LIVING TO CONTINUE OPERATING.
AND THEN AS OF, UH, YESTERDAY, I, I SPOKE TO THE CITY AND I, I UNDERSTAND NOW THAT THERE WAS SOME OPPOSITION AND, UM, THAT I BELIEVE THE BASIS OF THE OPPOSITION, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS IS ON, ON THIS CALL.
SO I'LL, I'LL DEFINITELY LET HIM SPEAK.
BUT, UH, JUST, JUST SO THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE, I I DID ACTUALLY HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS, MICHAEL MINEOLA, UH, WHO'S MY HOUSEMAN NEIGHBOR JUST LAST NIGHT.
AND WHEN I EXPLAINED THE, THE PURPOSE AND THE INTENT OF THE REZONING AND THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE AS AN ASSISTED LIVING, UH, HIS CONCERN WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO REZONE AND ALLOW MULTIFAMILY AND ALLOW COLLEGE, COLLEGE KIDS THE DORMITORY TO BE SET UP, WHICH, WHICH IS NOT OUR INTENT.
AND I EXPLAINED FURTHER THAT THE R SIX CD DESIGNATION ONLY ALLOWS US TO OPERATE THE ASSISTED LIVING AND NOTHING ELSE, ANYTHING ELSE.
IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO SHIFT TO A NEW OWNER AT SOME POINT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK THROUGH THIS ENTIRE REZONING PROCESS.
SO I DON'T BELIEVE HE'S ON THE CALL TODAY, BUT ON THE PHONE CALL WITH ME PRIVATELY YESTERDAY, HE DID NOT HAVE A CONCERN WITH, WITH THE ZONING CHANGE.
AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, I ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO LINDA GARCIA, WHO'S DIRECTLY BEHIND US.
AND WHEN I EXPLAINED WHAT WE WERE DOING AND THAT IT WASN'T AN INTENT TO GO MULTIFAMILY OR CREATE A DORM, SHE WAS ALSO IN SUPPORT.
AND SHE ALSO ACTUALLY MAY BE ON THE LINE.
UM, I PROVIDED THE INFORMATION SO THAT SHE COULD CONNECT TODAY.
SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, IN, IN CLOSING, THE, THE NEGROS UH, MOVED INSIDE CITY LIMITS BACK IN 2013 AS BEING INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS BROUGHT THEM CLOSER TO THE MEDICAL CENTER, AND IT ALSO BROUGHT THEM CLOSER TO ALL OF THE CITY SERVICES, SUCH AS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, HEALTH SERVICES, MORE, MORE SOCIAL, UH, PARTICIPATION.
UM, AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, THAT THE, THAT, UH, THE NEW, THE GROOVE FAMILY WHO I'M REPRESENTING, THEY'RE A VERY, VERY HARDWORKING FAMILY.
OF COURSE, I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY.
THEY'VE DELIVERED EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES TO THE ELDERLY COMMUNITY FROM THIS HOME.
UH, THEY COME FROM A FAMILY OF HEALTHCARE PRACTITIONERS.
SEVERAL MEMBERS STILL ACTIVELY OWN AND OPERATE ASSISTED LIVING HOMES IN THE CITY AND ALSO OFF BERNIE STAGE ROAD.
TODAY, UH, THE BUSINESS HAS ALWAYS OPERATED, UH, PEACEABLY WITHOUT ANY COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS OR ANY VIOLATIONS FROM THE STATE OR CITY LEVEL.
AND THEN LASTLY, THE BI, THE BUSINESS HAS ALSO MET OR EXCEEDED THE ZONING CRITERIA TO OPERATE AS AN ASSISTED LIVING WITH THE COMMERCIAL GRADE WATER SPRINKLER SYSTEM, THE FIRE ALARM PANEL, THE, THE REQUIRED, UH, VEHICLE PARKING SPACES, AND NOT TO MENTION THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODES, FOOD PERMIT AND BUILDING CODES.
I, I REALLY THANK, UH, LORIANNE AND LAURA FOR THEIR SUPPORT AS WELL AS, UH, DR.
UM, WE MAY HAVE, UM, QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND YOU'LL ALSO HAVE A CHANCE TO RESPOND IF, UM, AFTER THE PUBLIC SPEAK.
SO IF YOU'LL JUST HOLD FOR A MOMENT, PLEASE.
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SETH, SO WE HAVE, UH, CALLERS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.I'M GONNA READ SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW, AND THEN WE DO HAVE A LIVE CALLER AS WELL.
UM, THE FOLLOWING LETTER WAS RECEIVED FROM CHAD MOUSE AT 69 62 WILLOW OAK DRIVE, AND AS WELL AS MR. MICHAEL MENDOLA AT 70 19 WEST HOUSEMAN ROAD.
IT'S THE SAME EXACT LETTER AND IT READS, OUR VOTE WOULD BE AGAINST REZONING.
A DISCREPANCY IN THE REZONING REQUEST SEEMS TO EXIST WHERE THE YARD SIGN LAYING DOWN NOT EASILY VISIBLE, INDICATES REZONING FROM R SIX TO M F 18.
WE WERE INFORMED THE OWNERS ARE REQUESTING R SIX CD, WHICH IS NOT MULTIFAMILY.
HOWEVER, IT COULD POTENTIALLY PAVE THE WAY FOR MULTIFAMILY REZONING IN THE FUTURE.
THERE'S TOO MUCH INCONSISTENCY TO LAY TRUST ON THE REQUEST TO REZONE.
IF THE PROPERTY IS SOMEHOW ALLOWED TO BE REZONED, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THE PROPERTY WILL REMAIN A STRUCTURE TO PRO PROVIDE ASSISTED LIVING CARE.
THIS COULD VERY EASILY LEAD TO BEING CONVERTED INTO A MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY.
THIS IN TURN, WILL SET A PRECEDENT FOR EXISTING HOMES OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WITHIN OUR SUBDIVISION TO BE REZONED AS MULTI-FAMILY.
IN CLOSING, THE CURRENT OPERATION RUNNING AS IS WITH FEWER THAN EIGHT CLIENTS, HAS BEEN QUIET AND CLEAN.
IF THEY REMAIN AS IS, THEN WE DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
HOWEVER, REZONING TO ACCOMMODATE ADDITIONAL HEADCOUNT IS NOT AN OPTION.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LIVE CALLER WHO SHOULD BE ON THE LINE NOW, MR. TIM
YOU'RE ADDRESSING THIS MORNING.
WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS, AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
I AM RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CHAD
SO I AM WITHIN THE 200 FOOT RADIUS OF THE REQUEST, UH, OF, OF REZONING, UH, WITH THE PROPERTY BEING REZONED, I WANNA THANK MR. CALWELL FOR THE BUSINESS BACKGROUND THAT HE PROVIDED OF THE EXISTING, UH, BUSINESS.
SO I APPRECIATE THE CLEANLINESS THAT THEY HAVE, UH, EXECUTED AT THIS POINT.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION IS, IS THE ZONING OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA, WHICH IS THE ISSUE AT HAND? NOT THE BUSINESS, NOT THEIR BACKGROUND, NOT HOW WELL THEY TAKE CARE OF CLIENTS, BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHERE THEY'RE DOING IT.
SO NOW, LEMME PUT SOME PER PERSPECTIVE FROM A LONG TIME FROM MYSELF BEING A LONG TIME RESIDENT AT DELO, WE'RE A SMALL COMMUNITY AND WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ONE ANOTHER INFORMED.
SO IN COMPARATIVE THAT I VOICE THE WISHES OF OUR COMMUNITY, AS I'M SOMETIMES CALLED AS THE INFORMAL LEAD, I GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM ALL THE NEIGHBORS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I'M HERE REPRESENTING, UH, DELL OAK, UH, THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE ASKING TO REZONE, UH, THIS PROPERTY CURRENTLY OWN A SEPARATE ASSISTED LIVING PROPERTY WITHIN DELLO COMMUNITY, UH, AT THE CORNER OF BRIDGE OAK AND LINDELL.
AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY OF 70 23 WEST HAUSMAN.
AND THAT WOULD BE A MR. CALWELL WHO WAS ON THE LINE.
UM, UPON ESTABLISHING THAT PROPERTY AT LINDELL AND RIDGE OAK, WE APPROACHED, UH, I BELIEVE THE FOLKS WHO WERE, I BELIEVE IT WAS MR. NEGRO AT THE TIME, ABOUT THEIR INTENT OF THE PROPERTY.
AND HE WAS NOT VERY FORTHCOMING.
UH, HE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO TALK TO US AND INDICATE THAT THEY WERE BUILDING A IN-LAW SUITE.
UH, AND HOWEVER WE SEE DIFFERENT, IT WAS CONVERTED INTO AN ASSISTED LIVING PROPERTY.
AND OUR SINGLE COMMUNITY, SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY SINCE THAT ESTABLISHMENT THAT LINDA LINDELL AND RIDGE OAKS HAS BEEN IN OPERATIONS, UH, I HAVE, I PERSONALLY HAVE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE SEEN OVERFLOW OF GARBAGE CANS.
THAT'S, THAT'S YOUR TWO MINUTES.
BUT IF YOU HIT ON LINE, WAIT, WAIT, MR. MR. CALDWELL GOT LIKE 10 MINUTES.
UH, BUT HANG ON THE LINE, IF THE COMMISSION HAS QUESTIONS, THEY'LL ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, UH, MR. ROMERO, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YES, MA'AM.
UH, MR. CARRASCO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS IS, UH, FRANCINE ROMERO.
I JUST WANNA CLARIFY, BECAUSE I DO THINK THERE'S SOME MISINFORMATION ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN WITH THIS.
BUT IF YOU COULD JUST, UM, SORT OF NARROWLY CLARIFY, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE LAND USE AS THEY'RE USING IT RIGHT NOW? DO YOU HAVE CONCERNS WITH THE PROPERTY? WELL, HERE'S MY CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, UM, IT, IT'S GONNA BE CON IT'S GONNA BE REZONED TO CONDITIONAL
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USE.WE HAVE, PART OF MY STATEMENT THAT I WAS GONNA DO WITHIN MY TWO MINUTES WAS THAT WE HAVE, WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO RUN THEIR BUSINESSES OUT OF SMALL, OUT, OUT OF RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND WE'VE BEEN CALLING CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT ALSO OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE PROPERTIES, THEN THEY'RE TAKEN AWAY FROM THE FACADE OF THE, OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO WHAT IT'S DOING IS IT'S DETRACTING, IT'S TAKING AWAY, AND IT'S CONVERTING IT INTO A MIXED DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THE MAJORITY OF THE NEIGHBORS WANT.
SO YES, WE HAVE CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S A SLIPPERY SLOPE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE COMING DOWN AND ASKING FOR CONDITIONAL USE OF THEIR PROPERTY.
YOU AND WE CAN BE OVERRUN BY THAT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
UM, THANK YOU MR. CARRASCO FOR YOUR TIME.
SO WAS THAT THE LAST PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF? YES, MA'AM.
UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIFETIME FOR RESPONSE? UM, WELL, I JUST, I'LL, I JUST WILL REITERATE THAT WITH THE, THE BUSINESS, THE, THE SETTING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL SETTING AND THAT IS VERY KEY TO THIS TYPE OF ASSISTED LIVING WHERE WE MAKE THE ELDERLY COMMUNITY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN A HOME SETTING AND NOT AN INDUSTRIALIZED SETTING.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BUSINESS BEING ESTABLISHED THE WAY IT IS, AND WITHOUT HAVING ANY COMPLAINTS, I JUST, I I, I DON'T SEE THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I THINK TIM IS REFERENCING, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS EXTREMELY WELL MAINTAINED.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A, A NICE, LARGE LUXURY HOME.
UM, AND SO I I, I JUST DON'T DETECT THAT WE'RE DOING ANYTHING, UH, OUTSIDE OF, OUTSIDE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONCERNS THAT TIM HAS FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY HERE.
UM, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, UH, THANK YOU.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, CAN, CAN YOU GO OVER THE PARKING? DO THEY HAVE THE REQUIRED PARKING THEY WOULD NEED IF WE CHANGE TO, UM, CONDITIONAL FOR 12? NO MORE THAN 12 RESIDENTS.
WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT, HE IS ONLY REQUIRED TO HAVE FOUR SPACES.
AND HIS SITE PLAN, I BELIEVE SHOWS MORE THAN FOUR.
I KNOW THESE ARE THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE, UM, FOR THIS KIND OF THING IN RESIDENTIAL, BUT, UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION CONDITION, HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY APPLY THAT TO ASSISTED LIVING? DOES THAT MEAN THOSE ARE THE HOURS WHERE PEOPLE CAN VISIT? IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN UNDERSTOOD BY US THAT IT IS THE HOURS IN WHICH PEOPLE CAN VISIT.
IF THERE'RE, UH, IT'S A CONCERN, UH, UH, COUNSEL CAN ALWAYS, UH, MODIFY THOSE HOURS.
THEY JUST NEED TO, APPLICANT NEEDS TO JUST, UH, KIND OF CONFIRM FOR US WHAT THOSE HOURS NEED TO BE.
MR. CALDWELL DID, DID THOSE HOURS, WHICH I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME NOW WORK, UH, FOR VISITING HOURS.
IT'S 7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM THANK YOU.
7:00 AM TO 6:00 PM WOULD WORK.
UH, HOWEVER, IN THE COVID PANDEMIC, THERE'S NO VISITATION AT ALL RIGHT NOW.
BUT YES, OUTSIDE OF COVID, YES, THOSE VISITATION HOURS WOULD WORK.
AND THEN LAST QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS, WHY IS WILLOW OAK CLOSED? WILLOW OAK IS IN THE STREET.
OH NO, I WAS ASKING WILLOW OAK IS IN THE STREET.
WELL AREA, SO YOU CAN'T TURN ONTO IT FROM ROADRUNNER.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU CAN ONLY COMMIT FROM THE OTHER SIDE.
I DID NOT REALIZE IT WAS CLOSED, BUT WE CAN FIND OUT.
AND THEN I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING BECAUSE I, I THOUGHT MIKE ESCALANTE, UM, CUT OUT FOR A SECOND AND IT MADE IT SOUND LIKE HE WAS SAYING THERE IS AN INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER, BUT THERE IS NO INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS COVER.
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IN CASE ANYBODY WAS CONFUSED BY THAT.UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT IS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE MIKE ESCALANTE IS STILL ON THE LINE IF YOU WANT HIM TO ADDRESS THAT.
I'M READING IT OFF HIS, HIS REPORT.
IT WAS JUST THAT HE CUT OUT FOR A SECOND.
UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? SO, UH, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, 'CAUSE I JUST WANNA BE SURE I UNDERSTOOD MR. CARRASCO, THAT YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, UM, CLIENT HAS ALREADY ANOTHER FACILITY WITHIN THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD.
IS THAT FOR ME, JIMMY CALDWELL? YES, SIR.
I, I DO, UH, SO WITHIN THE DELL OAKS SUBDIVISION, I DO OWN A, ANOTHER SMALL TYPE B STATE LICENSE HOME.
AND HOW MANY S AND IT, IT, THAT ONE IS THAT, THAT HOME IS QUITE A BIT LARGER, BUT IT IS LICENSED FOR 16.
AND, AND, UM, I, I WILL HAVE 16 RESIDENTS IN THERE.
AND HOW LONG HAS THAT PROPERTY, UM, BEEN A, A, A FACILITY? UM, SO THAT WAS LICENSED LAST YEAR AND WE BEGAN OPERATING, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR IN JANUARY.
SO YOU HAVE THE ZONING FOR THAT PROPERTY? YES, I DO.
SO THAT WOULD BE THE CONCERN THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE THEN.
UM, SO BACK TO THE CURRENT PROPERTY THEN.
UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS FOR STAFF WITH, WITH THE, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED ABOUT THE DENSITY HERE.
HE WAS ASKING FOR 16 AND HE'S JUST AMENDED IT TO 12.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE ASKED FOR OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS JUST CHANGED HIS MIND ON? SO IT SOUNDS LIKE IN HIS APPLICATION, LIKE HE INITIALLY STARTED, IS THAT THEY HAVE A LICENSE TO HOUSE UP TO 16 RESIDENTS.
AND OUR, UH, UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE ACTUALLY STATES AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY FOR UP TO 16 RESIDENTS, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
UM, AND TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, HE'S AMENDING IT DOWN TO JUST NO MORE THAN 12.
UM, ALRIGHT, THAT'S WELL BACK TO THE PARKING SPACES THEN, I GUESS, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE CARETAKERS THAT ARE THERE AROUND THE CLOCK.
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
SO HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS WOULD THAT BE? DO THEY TAKE UP THE FOUR SPACES AND YOU HAVE SEVEN OR, UM, SO WE USUALLY HAVE BETWEEN TWO TO THREE CARS HERE, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ON ONSITE STAFF.
BUT WE HAVE PARKING THAT IS ALONG THE U T SS A, LET'S SEE, OR I GUESS ROADRUNNER STREET, IT'S RUNNER WAY.
AND THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF PARKING.
IT'S ACTUALLY OVER SEVEN, UH, SPACES THAT WE HAVE BECAUSE IT'S VERY DEEP INTO THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN VISITORS OR OUTSIDE AGENCIES THAT ARE COMING IN TYPICALLY USE THE FRONT ACCESS ALMAN.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, ANY OTHER, UM, COMMISSIONERS? QUESTION? QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, I, I ASKED MR. CALDWELL TO REDUCE, UH, HIS APPLICATION DOWN TO 12TH BECAUSE, UH, WHAT I WAS HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT, AND, AND EVEN WHAT WE JUST HEARD READ IS IF THEY REMAIN AS IS, WE DO NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT.
AND, UH, HE SAID THAT HE NORMALLY HAS AROUND, UH, 10 RESIDENTS THERE.
AND SO I ASKED HIM IF HE WOULD REDUCE THIS FROM 16 TO 12 SO THAT IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW.
AND THEY HAVE 12 ROOMS. SO, UH, HAVING IT BE FOR 12 RESIDENTS MAKES SENSE TO ME.
UH, I, I DO THINK THE ZONING MAKES SENSE, UH, FOR THIS SPOT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT MR. CARRASCO IS SAYING.
IF YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD AND EVERYBODY STARTS GETTING A CONDITIONAL USE FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN RESIDENTIAL, YOU NEED TO WATCH OUT FOR THAT.
UM, BUT THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS FACING OUT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT FACES ONTO HAUSMAN.
THIS HAS BECOME A BUSY INTERSECTION HERE FROM ROADRUNNER WAY.
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DIDN'T USED TO BE, BUT WITH ALL THE WIDENING AND ALL THE THINGS GOING ON, HAUSMAN, UH, THIS IS, THIS HAS BECOME MUCH BUSIER.I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR R SIX.
UH, IT IS A A REALLY, I WAS OUT THERE TODAY, IT WAS NICE TO GET OUTTA THE HOUSE.
UM, IT'S A REALLY, REALLY WELL MAINTAINED PROPERTY.
UH, JUST, IT'S, IT'S, IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE.
I, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS ABOUT SOMETHING BECOMING MULTIFAMILY HERE, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE ANY REASON THAT OUR SIX CONDITIONAL WILL LEAD TO MULTIFAMILY.
MY ONLY CONCERN WHEN I READ THE ACTUAL, THE FULL LANGUAGE FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE, UH, IT'S FOR ASSISTED LIVING OR A BOARDING HOUSE.
SO THEN I STARTED THINKING, OH, BOARDING HOUSE.
THAT COULD BE U T S A STUDENTS, NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THEM, UH, BUT THE ACTUAL DEFINITION FOR BOARDING HOUSE IS, IS NOT THAT KIND OF BOARDING HOUSE.
IT'S, UM, FOR PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED CARE.
SO IT'S VERY SIMILAR TO ASSISTED LIVING.
UM, SO, UH, I, I THINK THIS, I THINK THIS MAKES SENSE AND I, I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE CURRENT LAND USE.
SO, UH, I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL ON ITEM TWO AS AMENDED, UH, TO A CONDITIONAL USE FOR NO MORE THAN 12 RESIDENTS WITH THIS, WITH THE STANDARD CONDITIONS THAT, UH, CITY HAS PROVIDED FOR US.
MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSTA MONTE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, AS AMENDED WITH BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
[3. 20-4481 (Continued from 07/07/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700122 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District on the East 12.5 feet of Lot 11, Lot 12 and Lot 13, Block 2, NCB 6481, located at 1526 West Mistletoe Avenue. Staff recommends Denial, with Alternate Recommendation. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).]
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D TO RMM.FOUR A H O D LOCATED AT 1526 WEST MISTLETOE AVENUE.
STAFF FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE REQUESTED RM FOUR ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT OF FOURPLEXES, WHICH IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF THE SURROUNDING AREA.
STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS.
THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
ONE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET RECEIVED IN FAVOR.
OPPOSED OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET IN OPPOSITION.
AND JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED.
THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO AUGUST THE 18TH.
UM, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, THIS IS CHARLES RILEY.
AND ACTUALLY, UM, WE'D LIKE TO REQUEST A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE, UH, FOR THE REASON THAT WE HAD A MEETING SCHEDULED WITH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, UH, YESTERDAY, BUT HE HAD TO GO OUTTA TOWN, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RESCHEDULE THAT MEETING.
I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE CAN RESCHEDULE IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER AND, UH, EXPLAIN SOME OF THE CHANGES WE'VE MADE TO THE PLAN IN, UH, RESPONSE TO FEEDBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS.
UH, POTENTIALLY SPEAK WITH MORE NEIGHBORS.
WE DID HAVE A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS SINCE THE LAST HEARING THAT WAS PRODUCTIVE.
AND IN FACT, ONE PERSON WHO WAS OPPOSED CHANGED THEIR, UM, POSITION TO BEING IN FAVOR.
AND NONE OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY MET WITH US ARE OPPOSED.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST A MATTER OF, UH, HOPEFULLY BEING ABLE TO MEET WITH MORE FOLKS AND MEET WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S OFFICE AND THEN, UH, BE READY TO PRESENT THIS TO THE, TO THE BOARD.
UM, IF YOU'LL HOLD, UH, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? MA'AM, THERE IS NO LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, HOWEVER,
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THERE ARE 33 COMMENTS, UH, THAT CAN BE RESERVED TO BE READ INTO THE RECORD ONCE THE ITEM IS CONSIDERED.LET'S, UH, SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE.
SO, UM, UM, MS. UH, I MEAN, I'M SORRY.
UM, SO, UM, I'VE, I'VE TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT AND, UM, ACTUALLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD A COUPLE OF TIMES, AND I THINK THAT A CONTINUANCE, UM, IS THE BEST, UH, THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION RIGHT NOW FOR THIS PROPERTY.
UM, SO, UH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO READ 33, UM, OPPOSITION NOTICES INTO THE RECORD TODAY SINCE WE'LL BE CONTINUING THIS, UM, ON SEPTEMBER THE FIRST HOPEFULLY.
SO, UM, WITH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER THREE TO SEPTEMBER THE FIRST, SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSIONS? COMMISSIONERS.
[4. 20-4482 (Continued from 07/21/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-107000130 (Council District 6): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "MF-18 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Limited Density Multi-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District on the east 130 feet of Lot A1, NCB 13950, located at 5710 McDavitt Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE REQUEST TO ZEN FROM R SIX TO MF 18.WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME AT 57 10 MCT ROAD STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE REQUESTED M F 18 ALLOWED FOR DEVELOPMENT OF TWO FAMILY DWELLINGS, THREE FAMILY DWELLINGS, FOUR FAMILY ROW HOUSES, ZERO LOT LINE DWELLING, WHICH ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE ESTABLISHED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN OF LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM CABLE WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THERE WAS ONE NOTICE RECEIVED FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.
THAT WAS IN FAVOR, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? MR. RILEY? OTHER? HELLO? HELLO.
HI, MY NAME IS NANCY CAMARILLO AND I AM A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF, UM, 57 10 MCDAVID.
AND, UM, TODAY WE'RE, I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT, UM, OUR FOLLOWING PROPERTY AND, AND THE FOLLOWING SLIDES THAT I'M ABOUT TO SHOW YOU, UM, ARE GOING TO JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH AND THE CURRENT, UM, REQUEST TO, UM, CHANGE FROM A, UM, R SIX TO AN, UM, M F 18, WHICH WOULD CREATE A PERFECT BUFFER BETWEEN THE INTENSITY OF THE LAND USAGE IN THE AREA OF C THREE AND R SIX.
SO, UM, CAN I, CAN YOU CLICK ON, I GUESS SLIDE ONE? I GUESS I, I CAN'T SEE THE SLIDES ON MY END.
IS THAT, UH, MA'AM, YOU'LL JUST NEED TO GO AHEAD WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
THERE'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT OF A TIME DELAY, AND SO IF YOU JUST EXPLAIN, WE'LL BE SURE THAT WE GET THOSE SLIDES ON WHERE THEY NEED TO.
SO SLIDE ONE IS GOING TO GIVE YOU A IDEA OF THE BURIAL, UH, AERIAL IMAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
AND IF YOU GO ONTO SLIDE TWO, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THE, UM, PLANNING, THE ZONING PLANNING, UM, MAPS THAT WAS PRESENTED TO US.
SO THEN GO TO SLIDE THREE, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THIS REALLY QUICKLY.
I WON'T TAKE A LOT OF YOUR TIME.
SO SLIDE SLIDE THREE IS GONNA SHOW YOU THAT OUR PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, A QUARTER,
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UH, LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A BLOCK AWAY FROM CALLAHAN ROAD, WHICH IS NOT, I KNOW, MEETING WITH THE STAFF.THEY SAID THAT WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK AND WE ARE NOT.
WE'RE ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE HOUSES FROM THE CORNER OF THE COM C THREE PROPERTIES OF CALLAHAN ROAD.
SLIDE SLIDE FOUR IS GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT OUR PROPERTY IS ON ENLARGED LOT 0.62 OF AN ACRE.
UM, ALL OF THESE SLIDES JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE AERIAL, UM, VIEWS OF, UM, WHAT YOU'RE SEEING THERE IS NO MULTI-FAMILY.
UM, THERE'S NO MULTI-FAMILY UNITS AROUND IN THE AREA.
AND AGAIN, MULTI-FAMILY WOULD BE A GOOD BUFFER IN THE AREA OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
BECAUSE THERE ARE NO MULTI-FAMILY UNITS, THERE ARE SEVERAL DILAPIDATED PROPERTIES, AUTO PROPERTIES, AND YOU CAN KEEP, YOU CAN GO ON TO SLIDE SIX.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF DILAPIDATED PROPERTIES AND DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR PROPERTY IS A CAR LOT, UM, WITH JUNK VEHICLES FLOODED, UM, ABANDONED VEHICLES.
THERE'S A MOTEL DIRECTLY BEHIND US.
UM, YOU KNOW, A MULTI-FAMILY UNIT THAT WE ARE, WE ARE PROPOSING WILL AESTHETICALLY IMPROVE THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO, SLIDE SEVEN, UM, SLIDE EIGHT.
AGAIN, THESE ARE AERIAL VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING VACANT LAND.
UM, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES DIRECTLY, UM, AROUND US AND C THREE, UH, PROPERTIES NEAR US.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE.
UM, GOING TO SLIDE NINE, YOU'LL SEE MORE, UM, ABANDONED VEHICLES.
CARLOCK LIGHT 10 AGAIN IS, UM, THE AERIAL VIEW OF THE SURROUNDING INTENSE COMMERCIAL USAGE AND THE VACANT AND DEPRESSED AREA.
AGAIN, THIS, UM, THE IDEA WOULD CREATE A, A PERFECT BUFFER OF THE MIXED USAGE OF THE C THREE R SIX AND MULTIFAMILY.
SO IF YOU GO TO SLIDE 11, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A CAR LOT.
THERE'S A GULF OF MEXICO, UM, RESTAURANT LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY.
SLIDE 12, UM, ANOTHER AERIAL VIEW OF THE CAR LOT.
AND THE RESTAURANT, YOU'LL SEE SLIDE 13, THERE'S A MULT, A MOTEL LOCATED AT THE, UM, DIRECTLY BEHIND THE PROPERTY AGAIN.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW LARGE THESE PROPERTIES ARE.
OUR LOT IS EXTREMELY LARGE AS WELL.
UM, SLIDE 1415 ARE AERIAL, UH, VIEWS OF A SITE OF OUR SITE LIKE 16.
WE'RE GONNA GET INTO, UM, WHAT IS, HOW THE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USAGE IS, UM, DEPRESSING THE AREA, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO YOU'LL SEE THE MECHANIC SHOPS OF LIKE 16, LIKE 17 MORE MECHANIC SHOPS.
UH, SLIDE 18, YOU'LL AGAIN, MORE MECHANIC SHOPS, JUNK PARTS, JUNK VEHICLES.
UM, AND THE REASON FOR ME SHOWING YOU THESE IS TO SHOW YOU, TO GIVE YOU A VISUAL OF WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IN THIS AREA OF TOWN, UM, AND THE NEED FOR MULTIFAMILY, UH, UNIT.
SO SLIDE 19, YOU'LL SEE MORE CAR LOTS, AND THESE ARE CLEARLY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I WOULD SAY MAYBE A FEW FEET FROM THE DIRECTLY LOCATED DIRECTLY BEHIND, UM, MY PROPERTY.
SO, UH, SLIDE 21, YOU'LL SEE MORE JUNK VEHICLES.
YOU'LL SEE SLIDE 22 BAR THAT IS IN THE AREA 23, SLIDE 23 CAR LOT.
IT'S LOCATED AGAIN DIRECTLY BEHIND MY PROPERTY AND AT THE CORNER.
UH, SLIDE SLIDE 25 MORE MECHANIC SHOPS, JUNK VEHICLES, WHICH CLEARLY DEPRESSES THE, THE AREA.
UM, SLIDE 26, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT, UH, THERE'S MORE MECHANIC SHOPS, JUNK VEHICLES.
YOU'LL SEE THAT THE VACANT LAND USE, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S USED AS A DUMPING GROUND.
SO WHEN I MET WITH THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE, UM, ABOUT A YEAR NOW, I, I THINK MAYBE IN JANUARY, UM, THEY ALL, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE, THE VACANT LAND THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE MULTIFAMILY
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UNITS, UM, BEING DEVELOPED IN OUR AREA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE VACANT LAND IS USED AS A DUMPING GROUND.AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, CLEARLY THERE'S PICTURES WITH, UM, SLIDE 27 AND 28.
IF YOU GO INTO 28, YOU'LL SEE THE VACANT LAND ON MCDAVID AND WHAT IT'S USED FOR.
I MEAN, YOU HAVE, THE CITY HAS POSTED, UM, SIGNS NOT TO DUMP, BUT AGAIN, IT'S USED AS A DUMPING GROUND.
SO THE NEXT SLIDE, 2023 TO 33.
UM, THESE SLIDES ARE JUST GONNA SHOW YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALL ARE AWARE OF C OVID 19 AND IMPACT AND THE NEED FOR SAN ANTONIO HOUSING DUE TO UNPRECEDENTED, UH, HEALTH AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS OF C OVID 19 AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING ARE FACING TERRIBLE DILEMMA IN OUR CITY, IN MOST CASES, DRAMATICALLY DECREASING THE NEEDS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR RESIDENTS AND FAMILY INCOMES AS WELL AS, UM, HEALTH ARE BEING IMPACTED DUE TO THIS, UH, PANDEMIC.
UM, NOW MORE THAN EVER, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEED FOR MULTIFAMILY IS NEEDED.
OUR RENTAL PRICES FOR THE THREE ONE UNITS WILL BE VERY REASONABLE PRICE PER UNIT IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY TO THOSE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING DIFFICULTY TIME DURING THE PANDEMIC.
SO YOU'LL SEE ON SLIDE 29, THIS IS A, THIS IS A PICTURE OF THE, OUR PROPOSED, UM, SITE.
AND, UM, THIS IS THE TRIPLEX THAT WE ARE, UM, PROPOSING TO BUILD ON THE, ON THE SITE AFTER DEMOLISHING THE HOUSE THAT'S ON THERE.
AND AGAIN, OUR PROJECT WOULD MAKE A, UM, WOULD REVITALIZE, UM, ANESTHETICALLY FLEE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UH, SLIDE 30, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED ON 17 17 0 2 MADRID, WHICH IS ABOUT THREE MILES FROM MCDAVID.
UM, SINCE THERE ARE NO MULTIFAMILY, UM, UNITS IN THE AREA, I PULLED THIS, UM, PROPERTY BECAUSE THIS KIND OF DESCRIBES WHAT OUR PROPERTY WOULD LOOK LIKE, UM, IF WE WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON THE LAND.
UH, OF COURSE THESE WOULD, UM, GIVE YOU WASHER DRYER CONNECTIONS FOR THE TENANT, AND IT'S ONE PARKING SPACE PER TENANT.
SLIDE 31 IS GONNA SHOW YOU, UM, THAT THESE SINGLE, JUST AN IMAGE OF THE SINGLE STORY TRIPLEX THAT BLENDS VERY WELL IN WITH OTHER HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND, YOU KNOW, TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS, THAT'S ONE OF THEIR MAIN CONCERNS.
AND, AND I, I CAN'T VOICE ENOUGH THAT THESE PROPERTIES WOULD REALLY REVITALIZE, UM, THE AREA.
SLIDE 32, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, UM, A OUR PROPOSED PLAN, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING RENTALS BETWEEN PRICE FROM 7 75 TO 9 25, WHICH IS PRICE ACCORDING WHICH RENTALS IN THE AREA.
SLIDE 33, AGAIN, OUR TRIPLEXES IS JUST AN IMAGE OF YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS.
SO LET ME GO INTO THE LAST SLIDE ON 35.
IT'S A DIAGRAM OF PROPOSED TRIPLEXES AND THE ORIENTATION OF THE PROPERTIES, WHICH ARE SIDE FACING.
SINCE WE'RE DEALING WITH THE DEEP, LARGE LAND DURING OUR DESIGN PROCESS, WE, WHICH IS STILL IN THEIR WORK, WE ARE ENCOURAGING THE ACCESSIBILITY BY PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT ABILITIES.
SINCE THESE INTERESTS CANNOT FACE THE PUBLIC ACCORDING, WE ARE NOT RELYING ON STREET PARKING AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE DIAGRAM.
UM, THAT'S YOUR 10 MINUTES
UH, WE MAY HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT.
IS THERE, UM, OH, EVIDENTLY THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
IT IS A LETTER FROM MELISSA ALUM ALONZO AT 57 0 3 MCT.
SHE'S IN SUPPORT OF HER NEIGHBOR, ANTHONY DEANO AND
THIS PROJECT WOULD ADD TO THE CHARACTER AND FABRIC OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I APPROVE THE REZONING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO MULTI-FAMILY.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE A LIVE CALLER, WHICH I BELIEVE IS THE BUILDER ON THE PROJECT.
ARE YOU THERE, SIR? UH, YES MA'AM, GO AHEAD.
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESSING THE, UH, ZONING COMMISSION OF SAN ANTONIO.
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CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.YOU, YOU OKAY? YOU'RE FREE TO START NOW.
ALRIGHT, WELL, UH, THIS IS ARTURO CASTON WITH CASTON CONTRACTORS, AND MY CONCERN WAS TO BE ABLE TO BE ALLOWED TO DEVELOP A MULTI-FAMILY, UH, PROJECT THERE.
SO I LISTENED TO MS. CAMARILLO AND HER, HER CONCERNS AND, AND QUESTIONS AND ALL THAT.
SO I'LL DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, WHATEVER NEEDS TO GET DONE WILL DEFINITELY BE ACCORDING TO ALL THAT.
ANYTHING YOU GUYS NEED, I'LL BE TO SUPPORT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE CURRENT CALLER BY ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY, THANK, THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR INPUT.
WAS THAT THE LAST, THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE? THAT'S ALL WE HAVE.
AND, UM, TO THE APPLICANT, WOULD YOU LIKE ANY TIME TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY.
UH, COMMISSIONER, WE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
UM, MS. CAMARILLO, CAN YOU EXPLAIN ON YOUR, UM, ELEVATION, WHERE DO YOU HAVE YOUR PARKING SPACES FACING? THE PARKING SPACES WILL BE FACING THE SIDE, UM, OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE IS 130 FEET IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY LINE AND ALL THE, ALL THE PARKING SPACES WILL BE DIRECTLY FACING THE SIDE FACINGS OF THE UNIT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE DIAGRAM ON THE LAST, UM, ON SLIDE 35, THE ARROWS ON THE DIAGRAM ARE, IS WHAT THE PARKING SPACES WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH FOUR TRIPLEXES AND THEN THE PARKING SPACES ON THE PROPERTY.
AND THERE WILL NOT BE ANY PARKING ON THE STREET.
SO EACH TENANT IS ALLOWED, UH, ONE PARKING SPACE.
SO YOU HAVE THE PARKING SPACES FACING THE SOCCER FIELD, RIGHT? NO, THE PARKING SPACES IS GOING TO BE FACING DIRECTLY THE, THE UNIT, THE SIDE OF THE UNIT.
SO EACH OF THE UNITS ARE, ARE FACING EACH OTHER.
AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF THE UNIT IS A, UM, IS A SIDEWALK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT GOES TO THE PARKING, UH, THAT'S THE PARKING LOT.
IT'S, IT'S AN INTERNAL PEDESTRIAN PATH THAT IT JUST CONNECTS DIRECTLY TO THE FRONT PARKING SPACES AND THE STREET IN THE SIDEWALK.
WHAT KIND OF FENCING ARE YOU PLANNING TO PUT UP, UM, AROUND YOUR PROPERTY? A METAL, A METAL FENCE.
UH, HOW HIGH? UM, ABOUT EIGHT FEET, EIGHT TO 10 FEET.
THAT, THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S JUST ONE OF OUR, ONE OF, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
WE EVEN, UH, HAVE IN OUR PROPOSAL A CEDAR PICKET, UH, PICKET FENCE AS WELL.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT A METAL FENCE IS NOT PERMITTED BY RIGHTS.
IF YOU WANTED TO DO A, A CORRUGATED METAL FENCE, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT VARIANCE.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
IF YOU WANTED TO CONSIDER A METAL FENCE, I THINK A PICKET FENCE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FAMILIES THAT WILL BE LIVING THERE AS WELL.
UH, MAD CHAIR, I HAVE NO MORE QUESTIONS.
I'LL JUST OPEN THIS UP TO MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER, WE ANY COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION FOR STAFF.
I, I UNDERSTAND, UH, THE REASON WHY YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PLACING THIS.
UH, I, I HAVEN'T QUITE REALIZED IT WAS FOUR TRIPLEXES ONTO THIS PROPERTY.
DO YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION STAFF? YES.
WE'RE HERE, WE'RE JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE IN THE SAME PLACE.
UM, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION ON THIS CASE.
WOULD YOU HAVE ONE NOW, SINCE I'M ASKING IS, IS THERE JUST NOTHING APPROPRIATE OTHER THAN AN R SIX SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HERE IN OUR CURRENT ANALYSIS AND
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IN, IN LOOKING AT THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY, THE R SIX IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE.REMEMBER, THEY COULD SUBDIVIDE, UM, AND SPLIT UP THE PROPERTY INTO, UM, SEVERAL LOTS AND STILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR R SIX.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? UH, QUESTIONS? OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONER, WE ALL RIGHTY.
UM, SO I WANNA THANK, UM, MS. RIVAS OF THE, UH, D S D STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, MS. CAMARILLO AND THE LEADERSHIP OF THE CABLE WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THE WORK ON THIS APPLICATION.
UM, I THINK MS. CAMARILLO HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF PRESENTING HER CASE.
UH, SHE'S ASKING US TO REZONE AN R SIX PROPERTY TO AN M F 18 WITH THE INTENT OF DEMOLISHING THIS EXISTING HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY AND THEN DEVELOP A FOUR EACH TRIPLEX ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND THE STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF THIS REZONING REQUEST.
AND AS I UNDERSTAND IT, SOME OF THE KEY RATIONALE WERE THAT THE REZONING, THE REZONING IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE LARGE LOT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD EXCEED THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE CURRENT COMMUNITY THAT HAS A MAXIMUM OF TWO DWELLING UNITS PER LOT.
AND ALSO, UH, IN COMMUNICATING WITH THE CABLE WESTWOOD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THEY HAD EXPRESSED TO ME THEIR OPPOSITION OF THIS REZONING REQUEST.
SO, WHILE MS. CAMARILLO HAS PROVIDED AN EXCELLENT INFORMATION ABOUT HER PROPOSAL OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND HER INTENTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, BENEFITING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M LEANING TOWARDS DENYING THIS APPLICATION.
SO UNLESS THERE ARE OTHER, UH, COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS FROM MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, DENY THIS APPLICATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL, UM, BY COMMISSIONER WE AND A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
SEEING NO DISCUSSION, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
ALL RIGHT, MADAM CHAIR, ARE YOU READY TO CONTINUE OR DO YOU GUYS NEED TO TAKE A BREAK? I'M GOOD.
HOW'S EVERYBODY ELSE? THUMBS UP IF YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.
[6. 20-4470 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700101 CD (Council District 4): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-6 CD MLOD-2 MLR-1 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for two (2) dwelling units on Lot 21, Block 3, NCB 12492, located at 1971 Rayburn Drive. Staff recommends Approval. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).]
IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.LOCATED AT 1971 RAYBURN DRIVE, THE EXISTING R SIX BASE ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO KEEP THE BASE R SIX, BUT THE ADDITION OF THE C TWO CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF SLIGHTLY MORE DENSITY FOR TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS.
THERE WERE 24 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, I'M HERE.
I WAS CONTACTED BY THE HOMEOWNER, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO IN REGARDS TO THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
HE HIRED DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS TO START BUILDING THE STRUCTURE THAT'S LOCATED IN HIS
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BACKYARD DIRECTLY BEHIND THE MAIN HOUSE.UH, THOSE CONTRACTORS NEVER TOOK THE TIME TO PULL PERMIT OR LOOK AT ZONING TO SEE IF THE STRUCTURE SIZE WAS APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD ALLOW.
UM, UPON HIRING ME, I FIRST, UH, TOOK A LOOK AT THE STRUCTURE OF SAFETY AND INTEGRITY, AND THEN I IMMEDIATELY WENT TO ZONING.
UH, WELL, I IMMEDIATELY GOT ON, UH, B A D AND LOOKED AT THE ZONING, VERIFIED WHAT THESE ZONING CODES WERE, AND THEN CAME TO THE CITY TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS AS FAR AS WHAT WE COULD DO TO CONTINUE THE PROJECT, UH, IN HIS FAVOR.
UH, BASED ON MY FINDINGS AND WORKING WITH, UH, VICTORIA CASTRO, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WERE GIVEN, UH, WERE TO APPLY FOR A CD TWO TO HAVE TWO CONDITIONAL DWELLING UNITS.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE IS JUST AS LARGE AS THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
AND SO WE, THE PURPOSE FOR THE SIZE OF THE ADDITION IS TO MOVE HIS DAUGHTER AND HIS GRANDCHILDREN INTO IT.
THE CURRENT RESIDENT STRUCTURE RIGHT NOW HOUSES ABOUT EIGHT PEOPLE.
AND SO THEY'RE JUST LOOKING TO TAKE SOME OF THE, UH, TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE MAIN HOUSE AND PUT THEM IN THE, IN THE REAR HOUSE.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT PART OF THE OPPOSITION OR THE QUESTIONS AT HAND WERE THE USE OF THE REAR ALLEY.
CURRENTLY, ALL OF THE MEMBERS THAT LIVE IN THE EXISTING HOUSE CURRENTLY USE THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY.
UH, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY PARK ON THE STREET.
I THINK THE, THE FEW TIMES THAT I'VE BEEN TO THE PROPERTY, THERE MAY BE ONE CAR PARKED OUT FRONT ON THE STREET, BUT THEY PRIMARILY USE THE DRIVEWAY AS THEIR PARKING.
AND SO, UH, WITH APPROVAL WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO PULL THE PERMITS TO CONTINUE TO LEGALLY CONTINUE TO BUILD DESTRUCTION.
IF YOU'LL HOLD ON, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT AND GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO RESPOND AND SEE IF ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UH, QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, STEPH, IS THERE A PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE WAS JUST ONE NOTICE RECEIVED FROM RALPH CALIENDO AT 1974 MCCAULEY AND IT SAYS, DO NOT NEED TAXES GOING UP.
UH, LET ME, UH, CALL ON COMMISSIONER.
UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE STAFF.
UM, IS, IS THERE ANY, UH, PARKING OR ADDITIONAL PARKING REQUIREMENT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, CD TWO WHERE THERE WILL BE A SECOND DWELLING UNIT IN THE BACK? IT, IT'S ONE SPACE PER UNIT.
THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT AND THEY HAVE THAT.
ALRIGHT, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, UH, GENTLEMAN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
SIR, ON THIS, UH, SITE PLAN THAT IS ON THE, UH, SCREEN RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU ARE REALLY NOT SHOWING WHERE THE ENTRANCE TO THE REAR DWELLING WOULD BE.
UH, I'M SOMEWHAT CONCERNED THAT, UH, IF IT IS FACING THE ALLEY, I WOULDN'T WANT THE, UH, UH, FUTURE RESIDENCE OF THAT BACK UNIT TO USE THE ALLEY, WHICH IS THE, WHICH IS BEING USED BY THE CITY SERVICES RIGHT NOW.
WHERE, WHERE WOULD, UH, CURRENTLY OKAY, I'M SORRY.
WHERE WOULD BE THE ENTRANCE TO THE REAR DWELLING WOULD BE? THE CURRENT ENTRANCE WOULD BE THROUGH THE MAIN DRIVEWAY TO GET TO THE, TO THEIR BACKYARD.
SO THE RESIDENCE FOR THE BACK UNIT WILL BE WALKING, UH, BY THE SIDE OF THE EXISTING UNIT AND GO TO THE BACK? YES, SIR.
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I DO NOT HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.AND I OPEN, UH, THE FLOOR TO THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? ALL FROM 1, 2, 1 FROM ALL RIGHT.
IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS BY THE COMMISSIONER, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH? NO, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION TO THE STAFF.
UH, WILL WILL THE APPLICANT BE ABLE TO GET A, A SEPARATE C P S AND A SOURCE CONNECTION TO THEIR, UH, SECOND DWELLING UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE? YES.
THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN GET AN ADDITIONAL, UH, UNIT IS TO REZONE AND, AND, AND TO BECOME COMPLIANT WITH HAVING A SECOND UNIT ON THE PROPERTY.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE CALLED THE, THE SECOND UNIT STARTED GOING IN, THAT'S WHEN THEY REALIZED THAT THEY NEEDED A REZONING.
SO THIS IS AN EFFORT TO MAKE THE SITUATION CORRECT BY REZONING FOR TWO UNITS.
UH, MS. FLORES, THE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I HAVE SEEN, UH, UH, THIS KIND OF, UH, ARRANGEMENT IN THE, UH, MORE POPULAR IN THE MORE, UH, CONGESTED CITIES LIKE THE AUSTIN, ESPECIALLY IN CENTRAL AUSTIN, WHERE A A R SIX HAS A LEGALLY HAS AN A D U, UH, TYPE OF SETUP.
AND THESE ARE BECOMING VERY POPULAR BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABLE NATURE OF THE SECOND UNIT RIGHT BEHIND THE, UH, THE MAIN RESIDENCE.
SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, ESPECIALLY IN THIS SITUATION, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS LIVE IN THE BACK.
UM, IT'LL BE, UH, ADDITIONAL AFFORDABILITY FOR THE FAMILY.
SO I MOVE TO APPROVE THE, UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX, UH, REZONING APPLICATION.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ANY COMMISSIONERS SEEING, UH, NO DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, UH, AS CHAIR MCGEE? YES.
[7. 20-4307 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700110 CD (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-4 CD AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District with Conditional Use for four (4) dwelling units on Lot 19 and Lot 20, Block 1, NCB 3206, located at 123 Fairview Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner (210) 207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR A H O D TO R FOUR C D A H O D D WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR FOUR DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 1 2 3 FAIRVIEW AVENUE.THE BAY ZONING OF R FOUR WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
THIS R FOUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WAS FORMALLY A B DISTRICT, WHICH ALLOWED TWO UNITS ON EACH LOT PRIOR TO THE 2001 ZONING CONVERSION.
THE PROPERTY IS COMPRISED OF TWO LOTS, WHICH WOULD ACCOMMODATE TWO DWELLINGS ON EACH LOT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THE SUBMITTED SITE PLAN, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL.
THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED TO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO IN OPPOSITION.
NO RESPONSE FROM RIVERSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? MEGAN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, MA'AM, I AM.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
MY ADDRESS IS 5 7 1 0 WEST HAUSEN ROAD, SUITE 1 1 5.
I AM REPRESENTING RURAL CONSTRUCTION, THE OWNERSHIP OF 1 2 3 1 2 5 FAIRVIEW AVENUE AS THEIR CIVIL ENGINEERING TEAM.
UM, AS AS YOU DESCRIBED, THE EXISTING ZONING IS R FOUR WITH ITS TOTAL ACREAGE AT 0.229 ACRES.
WITH THAT EXISTING CONDITION, WE CAN,
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UM, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE UP TO THREE UNITS.OUR PROPOSED REZONING IS TO KEEP THE PARENT ZONING OF R FOUR, BUT ALLOW FOR A SINGLE ADDITIONAL UNIT FOR THE, UM, TO MAKE THE PROJECT VIABLE BECAUSE WE'LL BE ACCOMMODATING A LARGER DRIVEWAY.
UM, LIKE I MENTIONED, UM, THIS IS FOR FOUR TOTAL UNITS.
WE'LL BE, UM, FOUR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES BEING ACCESSED BY A SINGLE DRIVEWAY THAT WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET WIDE TO PROVIDE FIRE ACCESS.
EACH OF THESE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY UNITS WILL PROVIDE TWO ONSITE PARKING SPACES WITH THE GOAL TO REMOVE ANY SORT OF STREET PARKING FOR THESE RESIDENTS.
YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC ALLEY TO THE NORTHERN, UH, PROPERTY LINE OF THIS TRACK.
IT IS NOT GOING TO BE USED FOR ACCESS.
UM, THIS IS THE, UM, THE CURRENT LOT CONFIGURATION.
THERE ARE SEVERAL HERITAGE AND SIGNIFICANT TREES WILL BE, BE PRESERVING TWO HERITAGE TREES ALONG WITH SEVERAL SIGNIFICANT TREES ALONG THE BACK ALLEY.
UM, AND THAT'S KINDA ALL INCOMING IN HARMONY WITH HOW THE SITE'S GOING TO BE ACCESSED BY A SINGLE DRIVEWAY AND LIMITING, UH, NEW IMPERVIOUS COVER.
AND, UH, WITH THIS EXISTING, UM, WITH THIS TRACK, WE ARE IN THE SOUTH CENTRAL SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY PLAN.
SO, UM, THE EXISTING LAND USE IS LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
WE ARE NOT SEEKING A PLAN AMENDMENT.
UM, WITH OUR, YOU KNOW, INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY STAFF, WE DID OUR BEST TO AVOID HAVING TO REZONE, UH, TO AN I D Z OR A MULTI-FAMILY PARENT ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE FOUR UNITS.
SO WE FELT THAT THE CONDITIONAL ZONING WAS GOING TO BE THE BEST OPTION TO KEEP THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT IN HARMONY WITH ITS NEIGHBORS, CONSIDERING THAT IT IS LOCATED AT MID-BLOCK OFF OF FAIRVIEW AVENUE.
AND SO, UM, WITH THAT I WOULD BE GLADLY, UH, TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.
UM, IF YOU'LL HOLD TO, WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THOUGH? YES, MA'AM.
I HAVE A FEW ITEMS TO READ FOR YOU.
THIS ONE IS FROM CARLOS MARTINEZ.
RIVERSIDE IS GOING THROUGH SOME GREAT CHANGES AND I AM FOR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE AREA.
AS FOR THIS CASE, A NEW MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING UNIT WOULD BE GREAT IN ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE NEXT ONE IS FROM CONSUELO AND ARMANDO HERNANDEZ AT 1 33 FAIRVIEW AVENUE, WE STRONGLY OPPOSE A MULTI RESIDENCE UNIT AT 1 23 FAIRVIEW AVENUE.
OUR SMALL STREET HAS BEEN QUIET FREE OF DRUGS AND PEOPLE BLOCKING OUR DRIVEWAYS AND SCREAMING AND FIGHTS ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT.
OUR STREET FROM DEVOTO TO PREA CONSISTS OF SENIOR CITIZENS WITH ONLY A FEW NEWCOMERS THAT HAVE KEPT OUR STREET SAFE.
THERE'S ALREADY A MULTI RESIDENCE AT THE CORNER OF FAIRVIEW AVENUE AND DEVOTO, WHICH ATTRACTS UNDESIRABLE PEOPLE.
WE ALSO HAVE A TRANSMISSION REPAIR SHOP ON THE CORNER OF PRESA AND FAIRVIEW, WHICH PARKS CARS UP AND DOWN OUR STREET, WHICH WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, PLEASE NO MORE MULTI RESIDENTS ON OUR STREET.
THIS ONE IS FROM ISMAIL AND RACHEL DOMINGUEZ AT ONE 40 FAIRVIEW AVENUE.
WE DO NOT WANT ANY MORE APARTMENTS ON OUR BLOCK.
WE HAVE SOME APARTMENTS ALREADY NEXT TO OUR HOUSE.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY WRITES THAT THEY OPPOSE THE CHANGE OF ZONING OF THE RESIDENTIAL LOT AT 1 23 FAIRVIEW AVENUE.
THE PROPOSED CHANGE IN ZONING WOULD INTRODUCE AN INCOMPATIBLE INCREASE IN DENSITY TO THE CENTRAL PART OF A BLOCK THAT IS OTHERWISE INTACT WITH ONE SINGLE FAMILY HOME PER LOT.
UM, MEGAN, WOULD YOU LIKE, UH, TIME TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO I THINK THE, UM, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN WE GO THROUGH THESE RE REUNIFICATIONS, THERE'S KIND OF AN UMBRELLA CONFUSION THAT, UM, JUST BECAUSE WE'RE INCREASING DENSITY, THAT THESE ARE GOING TO BE APARTMENT LIKE IN NATURE OR A MULTI-FAMILY.
THAT'S WHY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WORKED HARD WITH THE CITY STAFF TO RETAIN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE FOR PURCHASE HOMES, NOT FOR RENT.
AND UH, LIKE I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORS HAVE CONCERN OF ON STREET PARKING.
BUT WITH THESE, UM, NEW DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, WE WILL BE ACCOMMODATING TWO ONSITE PARKING SPACES PER UNIT.
SO THAT'S ALLOWING UP TO EIGHT PARKING SPACES ONSITE.
UM, ALL WHILE NOT INTRODUCING FOUR NEW DRIVEWAYS, FOR INSTANCE, BUT MAINTAINING A SINGLE SHARED ACCESS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIMIT THAT IMPERVIOUS CA
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IMPERVIOUS COVER AS WELL AS ANY, AS ANY NEW KIND OF DRIVEWAY CUTS ALONG FAIRVIEW AVENUE.SO, UM, SO THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE CASE.
UM, SO MEGAN, UH, TELL ME, SO ARE THERE OTHER, UM, PROPERTIES LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING HERE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? YES, MA'AM.
THERE ARE AT THE, UM, HARD CORNER OF, PARDON ME, I'M, I'M LAGGING.
UH, JUST EAST OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ALONG FAIRVIEW AVENUE, THERE IS ANOTHER QUADPLEX THAT IS, UM, IN THAT IS EXISTING.
UM, AND THAT ONE DOES NOT HAVE AS MUCH ONSITE PARKING PROPOSED, BUT IT IS AT A HARD CORNER.
AND SO I, WE, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL AS IF THAT TO THE MAINTAINING THE R FOUR DESIGNATION, UM, WILL PRESERVE THE RESIDENTIAL NATURE OF FAIRVIEW AVENUE ALL WHILE ALLOWING, UM, A HIGHER DENSITY TO ACCOMMODATE MORE, UM, UH, HOMES THAT WILL BE IN NATURE TO THOSE THAT ARE SURROUNDING.
THESE HOMES ARE ESTIMATED TO BE AT 1200 SQUARE FEET, AND THE FIRST TWO HOMES THAT ARE FRONTING FAIRVIEW AVENUE WILL ACTUALLY FACE FAIRVIEW AVENUE TO KIND OF KEEP IN, UM, TO USE THE WORD AGAIN, HARMONY WITH THE BLOCK FACE OF FAIRVIEW AVENUE.
SO THERE WILL BE A DUPLEX HAVE WHICH SLIDE WOULD THAT BE? SO THEY CAN PUT IT UP WHILE YOU'RE TALKING.
SO, UM, IF YOU, IF CITY STAFF WOULDN'T MIND PUTTING ON, UH, JUST OUR ID OR, I'M SORRY, THE R FOUR SITE PLAN, THAT'S JUST THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT MM-HMM.
AND LIKE I MENTIONED, THESE WILL ONLY BE TWO STORIES.
SO, YOU KNOW, WITH US KEEPING THE PARENTS, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONING, WE ARE GOING TO BE HELD TO THOSE ZONING SETBACKS AND HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS UNLIKE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD PERMIT PERMIT HIGHER DENSITY SUCH AS MULTI-FAMILY OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, UM, MORE BLANKET I D D.
UM, AND, UH, WHAT TYPE OF, UH, FITS SITTING, UH, WOULD, UM, BE A BUDDING YOUR, FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS THERE? I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT YOUR QUESTION? SO, UM, AS FAR AS YOUR NEIGHBORS, SO YOU HAVE, UH, FENCING, IS THERE ALREADY EXISTING FENCING THERE? YES.
SO THIS PARCEL IS ACTUALLY VACANT.
SO, UM, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR GOOGLE MAPS, THERE'S A TWO STORY HOME, BUT THAT HAS SINCE BEEN CLEARED.
UM, BOTH OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE EXISTING FENCING AND IT IS OUR APPLICANT'S INTENTION TO INTRODUCE NEW FENCING ALONG THE SIDE AND REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY IS MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO REMAIN OPEN.
UM, LIKE MOST OF THE PROPERTIES, UM, THAT ARE ADJACENT TO NOT, THERE WON'T BE LIKE A CHAIN LINK FENCE ALONG FAIRVIEW AVENUE NECESSARILY.
UM, IS ANY COMMISSIONERS, UH, WITH, UH, QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO? UM, YEAH.
SO FOR THE APPLICANT, SO YOU'RE THIS BIG OLD HOUSE THAT WAS THERE WAS DEMOLISHED, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS, UM, CONDEMNED AND TAKEN DOWN.
THE SURROUNDING TREES WERE PRESERVED IN EFFORT TO, UM, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATE THEM WITH THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? JUST A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE SIZE OF THIS LOT.
IT'S, UH, JUST SHY OF A THIRD OF AN ACRE.
IS THAT FAIR? YES, MA'AM, IT IS.
AND WITH THE POSITIONING OF THOSE FOUR HOMES, ABOUT 1200 SQUARE FEET EACH TWO PARKING SPACES, UM, ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A GARAGE OR IS THAT GONNA BE A CARPORT OR JUST OPEN PARKING IN SIMILAR NATURE TO THE HOMES? UM, THAT ARE ADJACENT TO AND ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE, THERE WILL NOT BE A, AN ENCLOSED PARKING GARAGE NECESSARILY.
IT'LL BE A, UM, EITHER A COVERED, UM, PARKED OR COVERED DRIVEWAY OR, UM, AN EXPOSED DRIVEWAY FOR THOSE VEHICLES TO PARK ON SITE.
UM, AND YOU DID SAY THAT YOU'LL, YOU'LL DO THE FRONT, YOU'LL HAVE TO KEEP THE FRONT SETBACK AS AN OREX LOT WOULD FOR THE FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
THE FRONT SETBACKS, SIDE SETBACKS AND REAR SETBACKS WILL ALL BE CONFORMANCE TO THE PARENT R FOUR ZONING DESIGNATION.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS, UH, QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, SO CURRENTLY THE, THE R FOUR, UM, WOULD ALLOW FOR
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WHAT THE, UM, THE MAIN BUILDING AND THEN AN ACCESSORY, ACCESSORY, UH, DWELLING UNIT.SO ARE WE, UH, ADDING TWO MORE OR ONE MORE? I THOUGHT I HEARD HER SAY ONE EXTRA BUILDING IT, IT'S A TOTAL OF FOUR UNITS, IT'S TWO UNITS PER LOT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE CURRENT ZONING THAT'S EXISTING, WHAT WOULD BE ABLE TO BE PLACED THERE.
THAT'S WHAT, WELL, THE, THE LOT ITSELF IS, IS ONE LARGE LOT MM-HMM.
UM, SO IF THEY REPLANTED IT INTO TWO LOTS, THEY COULD DO THE TWO UNITS PER LOT, UH, UNDER THAT ZONING, BUT ONLY IF IT WAS OWNER OCCUPIED.
UM, AS WE KNOW, THESE ARE LIKELY RENTAL UNITS, SO IN ORDER TO HAVE THE RIGHT ZONING, UM, THEY WOULD NEED THE CONDITIONAL USE.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DID I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YES.
UM, WELL, I DON'T THINK I REALLY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, I, I GUESS I, I DON'T KNOW.
I, I DON'T THINK, IT DOESN'T LOOK TO ME LIKE IT'S OVERLY DENSE, UM, FOR THIS AREA, BUT I'M WELCOME TO HEAR WHAT THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE TO SAY.
BUT I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND, UM, MOVE FOR APPROVAL, UM, FOR THIS ITEM SECOND ROMERO.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL WITH US BY COMMISSIONER MCGEE WITH A SECOND BY, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
ANY COMMISSIONERS, UH, SEEING NO DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
[10. 20-4293 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700145 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1 AHOD" General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-3 AHOD" General Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 2B, NCB 9483, located at 6831 South Flores Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA 2020-11600036) (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).]
NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE A H O D TO C THREE A H O D LOCATED AT 68 31 SOUTH FLORIDA STREET.STAFF HAS FOUND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS.
THE PROPOSED C THREE WILL ADD TO THE SATURATION OF AUTO REPAIR BUSINESSES CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE AREA.
A ZONING DISTRICT OF C ONE IS LED LESS ADVERSE AND IMPACT TO THE AREA AND ALLOWS LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS SMALL SCALE RETAIL OR OFFICES, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, CONVENIENCE, RETAIL AND SHOPFRONT RETAIL THAT SERVE A MARKET EQUIVALENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
C ONE ONE WOULD NOT REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT SHOULD THE APPLICANT WISH TO PROCEED WITH REZONING TO C ONE A REIFICATION WOULD BE REQUIRED AS THIS IS OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT.
THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.
THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? JERRY, ARE YOU ON THE LINE LATER? CAN YOU GET THAT UP THERE? OKAY, JERRY, I THINK WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW.
IF YOU CAN GO TO THE, UH, THE PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU GET THERE? ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A DOWN ZONE AND THE DOWN DOWN ZONE IS A, A REQUEST FOR A CHANGE FROM AN I ONE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL.
AND I'LL AMENDING MY REQUEST FROM THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL TO A C TWO CD NA AND THE NA WOULD BE FOR THE OVERSIZED TRUCK RENTAL.
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ON PAGE TWO, THE UH, PAGE TWO WILL SHOW YOU THAT THE PRIMARY USES OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT SURROUND US IN EFFECT, HAVE CREATED A CORRIDOR OF COMMERCIAL USES, UH, NOT INDUSTRIAL USES.SO THE, UH, WHAT BASICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY ARE SURROUNDED THE PROPERTY AS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY BY C TWO C THREE USES.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT, AT THE MAP, YOU'LL SEE HOW THEY ARE ACTUALLY LISTED ON THE MAP.
AND THAT WOULD BE UNDER EXHIBIT A.
ON PAGE THREE, WE HAVE EXHIBIT B AND EXHIBIT C.
EXHIBIT B IS THE EXISTING ZONING MAP.
AND THE EXISTING ZONING MAP SHOWS HOW THE MAJORITY OF EVERYTHING AROUND US IS I ONE ON ZONING.
BUT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT EXHIBIT C, WHICH IS TO THE RIGHT OF EXHIBIT B, WE COLORED IN THE ACTUAL USES AND THE ADDRESSES OF THE, THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THE PICTURES.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE REALITY IS THE SURROUNDING AREA IS NOT I I ONE USES, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY C TWO C THREE COMMERCIAL USES.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE REFER TO IT THIS AS THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, NOT THE INDUSTRIAL CORRIDOR.
THE NEXT PAGE WOULD BE EXHIBIT D AND EXHIBIT EXHIBIT D IS SHOWING THAT YOU HAVE, AGAIN, THE EXISTING MAP AND THEN, AND THEN EXISTING ON E IS EXISTING USES OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AND AGAIN, THOSE ARE, UH, ON EXHIBIT E THAT IS COLORED IN BY US.
WHAT IS ZONED ON D THAT IS EXISTING AS IT AS IT STANDS TODAY.
IF WE GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS EXHIBIT F.
EXHIBIT F IS A COMPARISON OF SOUTH FLORIDA STREET SHOWING CURRENT C TWO AND C THREE USES ON LOTS CURRENTLY ZONED I ONE.
AND WE'RE ALSO MAKING A COMPARISON TO THE NEXT MAJOR STREET OVER, WHICH IS ROOSEVELT AVENUE, SHOWING THE CONSISTENT RETAIL USES ZONING OF TWO MAJOR STREETS.
SOUTH FLORIDA STREET HAS, UH, FIVE LANES, WHICH IS WHERE OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY IS FOUR, FOUR LANES WITH ONE TURNING LANE.
IF YOU THEN MOVE OVER TO ROOSEVELT, A COMPARATIVE STREET, THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHERE THEY HAVE, UH, FOUR LANES, BUT THEY'RE ALL CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE ON SOUTH FLOORS, WHICH IS RETAIL.
THE NEXT PAGE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ITSELF.
KEEP IN MIND, SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NOT, UH, VERY LONG.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 17,000 SQUARE FEET OF LAND ON THAT PROPERTY.
AND YOU SEE THE PICTURE OF IT TODAY.
THE NEXT PAGE IS THE, UH, PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS, UH, AT 68 30 SOUTH FLOORS.
AND OUR OURS IS 68 31 SOUTH FLOORS.
AND THIS IS A C THREE USE BEING A, UH, CAR LOT.
THE PROPERTY, UH, THEN ACRO CATTY CORNER FROM OUR PROPERTY IS A C UH, C TWO C THREE USE, WHICH IS THE VALERO.
AND ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INTERSECTION, YOU'LL SEE WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEING FIVE A FIVE LANE STREET AT THE HARDING AT SOUTH FLORES.
AND WE'RE LOCATED DIRECTLY AT THAT CORNER.
THE NEXT PAGE THEN IS SHOWING THE, OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT BEING THE RED BUILDING.
AND NEXT TO US IS, UH, THE, UH, ACTUAL, UH, AIR CONDITIONING COMPANY, WHICH IS A C THREE, USE THE KING MUFF MUFFLER AND TIRE SHOP, WHICH IS A C THREE USE NEXT TO THAT.
AND IN BETWEEN THAT ARE TWO CAR LOTS.
NEXT TO THAT, ON THE 67 39 SOUTH FOREST STREET IS A C THREE USE, WHICH IS AUTO REPAIR AND AUTO RETAIL, OR NO, JUST RETAIL CENTER.
AND THE NEXT STREET OVER, WHICH IS 67 28 SOUTH FLORIS IS, UH, BOBBY'S CAFE, WHICH IS A C TWO USE.
AND NEXT TO THAT AT 67 37 SOUTH FLORIS STREET IS A RESTAURANT, WHICH AGAIN IS A C TWO USE.
AND ACROSS THE STREET FROM THAT RESTAURANT IS ANOTHER RESTAURANT, UH, WHICH IS AT 67 31 SOUTH FLORIDA STREET.
THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE IS REALLY JUST ASKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL BECAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU LOOK, AND WE'VE ESTABLISHED FROM, FROM THIS, UH,
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PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE REALLY NOT A I ONE USE, WE, WE REALLY SHOULD BE DOWN ZONE TO BE IN THE, UH, COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, WHICH SHOULD BE A C TWO C THREE USE.AND THEREFORE THAT'S WHY WE'RE, UH, REQUESTING AMENDING OUR, UH, DOWN ZONE FROM BEING THE I ONE TO A C TWO C D N A.
AND THE AGAIN, CD, UH, WOULD BE FOR OVERSIZED TRUCK RENTAL.
AND THE, UH, C TWO WOULD ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AUTOMOTIVE TYPE OF, UH, PIECES.
AND I WOULD ASK RESPECTFULLY FOR YOUR, UH, APPROVAL OF, UH, MY REQUEST.
IF YOU'LL HOLD THE LINE, WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO, UM, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
IT IS FROM THE ACTUAL PROPERTY OWNER.
SO THIS IS THE GENTLEMAN THAT, THAT JERRY REPRESENTS, AND HE SAYS, I AM THE OWNER OF 68 31 SOUTH FLORIDA STREET.
I FIND IT HARD TO FIND WHAT I CALL CLEAN BUSINESS TO LEASE MY PROPERTY WITH THE CURRENT I ONE ZONING, TRASHY DIRTY PROPERTIES IS MY PET PEEVE.
I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN MY PROPERTY AND I WANT TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I KNOW THAT IF I CAN HAVE THE PROPERTY ZONE TO C THREE, THIS WILL ALLOW ME TO FIND BUSINESS THAT ARE MORE CLEAN TO LEASE MY PROPERTY.
I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROPERTIES, ZONE C THREE ON SOUTH FLORIDAS PLEASANTON MILITARY DRIVE AND ROOSEVELT AVENUE.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE MY REQUEST.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, OKAY, SO, UM, MR. ARDO, UM, DO, DID YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THAT COMMENT? UH, OKAY.
I I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, MY COMMENT IS REALLY THAT IT IS A COMMERCIAL AREA.
AND BECAUSE IT IS COMMERCIAL, THAT BY CHANGING TO, UH, COMMERCIAL USES BEING C TWO AND C THREES, WHICH IS ALREADY EXISTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT DOES TAKE THE INDUSTRIAL OUT AND DOES GIVE US MORE, UH, CLEAN TYPE OF USES THAT, UH, THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FIND IT IN, IN, UH, ON THE INDUSTRIAL, UH, UM, UH, SITES, IF YOU WILL.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF A PART OF CLEANING UP NEIGHBORHOODS AND GOING DOWN FROM INDUSTRIAL DOWN TO, UH, RETAIL.
UM, SO STAFF, DO YOU HAVE THAT LINK THAT MR. ARRADONDO SENT THE TYPE OF, UH, FACILITY THEY'RE HAVE AND WHAT KIND OF THE, UH, OVERSIZED TRUCKS THAT WILL BE RENTED? DO YOU, CAN YOU CLICK ON THAT LINK FROM HIS EMAIL SO WE CAN SEE THAT ON THE SCREEN PLEASE? SO I HAVE QUESTIONS.
UM, WELL, I'LL HAVE TO FORWARD IT TO THE STAFF.
WE DON'T HAVE IT EASILY ACCESSIBLE IN THE MEETING RIGHT NOW.
YEAH, IF YOU COULD FORWARD IT, THAT WOULD BE, AND SO WE CAN HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN.
SO, UM, SO MY QUESTION IS, SO WHEN YOU TOOK A LOOK AT THAT, UH, LINK AND SAW THOSE, UM, VEHICLES, WOULD THAT WORK FOR THE C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED TRUCKS? WE, WE ARE STILL ASSESSING THAT.
WHAT I HAVE TO DO IS I HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE TRUCKS, MAKE SURE I HAVE MEASUREMENTS ON THAT WEBSITE, AND THEN COMPARE IT TO THE DEFINITION IN THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE.
WHAT I DON'T KNOW IS IF THERE ARE MEASUREMENTS, UH, REPORTED IN THAT.
SO I, HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT ON THE SCREEN.
AND, UM, WHILE YOU'RE ASSESSING THAT AND WE'RE GETTING IT ON THE SCREEN, UH, MR. ARDANDO, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUSINESS? SO IS IT PURELY RENTAL? ARE YOU, UM, HAVING TO SERVICE THE, UH, VEHICLES ON THIS PROPERTY? NO, THE, THE, UH, SERVICING WOULD BE TAKE PLACE, UH, SOMEWHERE ELSE.
UH, OTHER, OTHER THAN MAYBE CHANGING THE BATTERY OR, YOU KNOW, THE MM-HMM.
SO THERE WOULD BE MORE, MORE OF THE SIMPLISTIC TYPE OF, UH, MAKING SURE THE TRUCKS ARE CLEAN AND UP AND RUNNING, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE LIKE AT NO, NO DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'D SEE AT LIKE ENTERPRISE, UH, UH, CAR RENTALS.
UM, STILL THE, I THINK, SO I'LL JUST TELL THE, UM, WHILE, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT LINK TO COME UP, THEY WERE LIKE, UM, BIGGER RENTAL TRUCKS.
I WISH I COULD, I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER.
I THINK I'M, DO I I CLOSED IT DOWN ON MY COMPUTER.
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YES, THAT LINK RIGHT THERE.AND SO ABOUT HOW MANY, UM, VEHICLES WOULD YOU HAVE, UM, UH, STORED THERE ON THE SITE, MR. ARDO? NO.
WELL, UH, THE ANSWER IS, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY THE, THE QUANTITY, BUT IT WOULD NOT BE VERY MANY BECAUSE THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS NOT THAT BIG.
IT'S MORE THE LOCATION THAT WE'RE GOING AFTER THAT THEY'RE GOING AFTER.
AND THEY HAVE OTHER LOCATIONS THAT THEY WOULD PUT REALLY MORE OF THE LARGER VEHICLES AND, UH, THAT THEY ALSO WOULD SERVICE, BUT NOT ON THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
THIS LOCATION WOULD BE PRIMARILY DELIVERY TYPE TRUCKS IS FOR WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM, UH, MY DISCUSSION.
LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAD LIKE A DELIVERY TRUCK BEING LIKE AN AMAZON, AMAZON, UH, OR A TRUCK THAT WOULD GO AND, AND MAKE DELIVERIES AND STUFF MM-HMM.
AND SO THE ENTRANCE AND EXIT SECURELY ON, UH, SOUTH FLORE, SO.
I GUESS WE'RE STILL WAITING ON STAFF, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I'M GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? I HI JERRY.
I, I JUST, UH, NEED TO CLARIFY AGAIN.
SO, SO YOU'RE NOT SURE HOW MANY VEHICLES YOU WOULD HAVE ON THE SITE, BUT THAT YOU WOULD BE HAVING SOME KIND OF A RENTAL TRUCK, UH, BUSINESS THERE.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, THAT, THAT IS CORRECT.
AND IF, IF YOU LOOK, I'M LOOKING ON THE SCREEN AND I JUST, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SCREEN, THE PRIMARY OBJECTIVE WOULD BE TO TAKE THE, LIKE NEXT TO THE PICKUP, THE PICKUP BEING A TRUCK, AND THEN THE DELIVERY TRUCK WOULD BE TO THE LEFT OF IT.
THOSE WOULD BE THE PRIMARY, UH, TYPE TYPE TRUCKS.
AND WHAT WOULD YOUR HOURS OF OPERATION BE, UH, IS MY UNDERSTANDING, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT ANSWER, BUT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE FROM UH, EIGHT TO, UH, EIGHT TO SIX, EIGHT TO SEVEN.
IS THAT SEVEN DAYS, FIVE DAYS? UH, I THINK IT'S SIX DAYS.
IT'S UH, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.
AND, UM, SO I, I WANNA UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THERE NOT BEING ANY AUTO REPAIRS DONE THERE OTHER THAN CHANGING A BATTERY, OR IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE THE LIMIT OF THE REPAIR? YEAH, JUST MINOR STUFF LIKE THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT WOULD NOT BE, UM, IT WOULDN'T BE ANY MORE THAN, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAD LIKE AN AUTOZONE OR SOMETHING AND YOU, YOU DROVE UP AND SAID, HEY, I NEED A NEW BATTERY.
THEY COME OUT, POP, POP A NEW BATTERY IN, BUT THEY WOULDN'T BE DOING ANY, UH, MECHANICAL TYPE OF HEAVY REPAIRS OR ANYTHING
OH, SO THEY WOULD BE DOING, THEY WOULD BE DOING COMMERCIAL AUTO REPAIR, NOT JUST REPAIR ON THE FLEET.
THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO AUTO REPAIR COMMERCIALLY? NO.
I, I WAS NOT UNDERSTANDING THAT.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, IF YOU COULD ADDRESS THE SATURATION, TELL ME, I MEAN, HOW MANY BUSINESSES OF THIS TYPE DID YOU FIND IN YOUR STUDY? WE'RE GONNA SHOW TALKING TO ME, POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE OF, UH, AUTO TYPE USES.
I WOULD, SO GIVEN THAT THERE'S THIS CONVERSATION THAT GOES BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN WHAT THEY MIGHT DO, WHAT THEY COULD DO FROM AUTO REPAIR TO STORAGE OF, UH, A CONDITIONAL USE ONLY ALLOWS ONE USE.
AND JUST LISTENING TO THIS CONVERSATION, THERE'S WAY TOO MANY MOVING PARTS, WAY TOO MANY USES.
WE WOULD NEED TO WORK WITH THE OBJECT TO SOLIDIFY EXACTLY WHAT THE USE IS TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT CONDITIONAL USE WILL BE.
CAN I RESPOND THAT? SO LET ME ASK THE QUESTION IN REVERSE, KAT, UNDER CONDITIONAL USE, IF HE HAS CONDITIONAL USE FOR, I DON'T KNOW, AUTO RENTAL, WHATEVER YOU CALL IT, IS THERE A WAY TO CONDITION THAT? THERE CANNOT BE ANY COMMERCIAL AUTO REPAIR PERFORMED ON SITE.
SO A CONDITIONAL USE WOULD ALLOW SOME CONDITIONS.
THE THE ISSUE THEN BECOMES, UH, THE, THE, THE OPERATION ITSELF, LET'S JUST SAY IT WAS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE OR STORAGE.
OVERSIZED VEHICLES WOULD INCLUDE COMMERCIAL, UH, VEHICLES.
UH, LIKE SOME OF THESE THAT YOU SAW ON THE WEBSITE, BUT WE, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO SAY YOU COULD HAVE SALES SERVICE AND STORAGE, BUT I'M SORRY, YOU CAN'T SERVICE THE VEHICLES.
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THAT IS WHAT THE USE IS.AND WE TYPICALLY DON'T GET INTO THAT SORT OF OPERATION OR, OR, OR, OR INTO THE WEEDS RELATED TO OPERATIONS LIKE THAT MM-HMM.
I'M NOT OPEN TO THEM BEING OPEN TO PUBLIC REPAIRS OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, ET CETERA.
ONCE THEY ARE ZONED FOR THAT USE, THEN THEY HAVE THE USE.
AND WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO.
COULD I, COULD I RESPOND TO THAT PLEASE? UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL
I'LL ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO, TO RESPOND.
IT, IT'S, FIRST OF ALL, THE, THE, THE, UH, THE ANSWER WOULD BE YES, THAT WE WOULD NOT BE REPAIRED BECAUSE IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT WOULD GO UNDER A C THREE AND WE'RE AMENDING OUR REQUESTS DOWN TO A C TWO AND A C A C TWO DOES NOT ALLOW FOR AUTO REPAIR.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY WE HAD THIS LONG DISCUSSION ON OUR SIDE TO SAY IF WE THEN WE, UH, AMENDED OUR REQUEST FROM A C THREE THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY SPECIFICALLY AUTO REPAIR.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF OUR REASONS FOR, FOR THEN AMENDING OUR C THREE REQUEST DOWN TO A C TWO, THEN ADDS RENTAL TO IT.
UH, THIS IS STAFF AND I JUST HAVE TO INTERJECT VERY QUICKLY BECAUSE, UM, THERE, AT THIS POINT IN THIS PROCESS, THERE CANNOT BE AN AMENDMENT.
THE REQUEST IS FROM AN I ONE TO A C THREE.
AND SO IT IS NOT WITHIN THE RANGE TO REQUEST A C TWO CD OR A C ONE CD OR ANYTHING THAT IS OUTSIDE THAT RANGE.
THE ONLY OPTIONS HERE ARE REMAIN I ONE OR CHANGE TO C THREE.
THAT'S ALL WE'VE GOT RIGHT NOW.
AND SO IF HE DOES NEED TO, UH, CHANGE HIS REQUEST, IT WILL HAVE TO BE POSTPONED AND REPUBLISHED AND RETIC.
UM, WELL IF, IF THAT'S THE CASE, BUT IS THAT EVEN A POSSIBILITY? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT WASTING TIME.
IF IT'S NOT EVEN A POSSIBILITY WITH THE RENTAL OF THOSE VEHICLES, THEN WE NEED TO STAY ON THE PATH THAT WE ARE ON NOW I WANT, SO IF IF THAT'S A CONSIDERATION FOR HIM, THEN HE COULD ASK FOR THE POSTPONEMENT RIGHT NOW.
BUT IF, IF IT'S NOT EVEN A POSSIBILITY, THERE'S NO POINT IN GOING THAT DIRECTION.
SO DID YOU FINISH THE ANALYSIS OF RENTAL FOR THOSE TYPE OF VEHICLES? SO IN THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH MR. ARRADONDO LATE LAST WEEK, THE ISSUE WAS IS THAT HE NOT ONLY WANTED TO ALLOW FOR THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE AND STORAGE, BUT HE ALSO WANTED THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME SORT OF RETAIL USES.
AND A LOT OF THE USES THAT HE WAS CITING WAS NOT ALLOWED BY.
AND I, ONE THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE SALES, SERVICE AND STORAGE IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
AND I ONE, SO THE QUESTION BACK TO HIM IS, DOES HE NEED A ZONING THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE MORE USES ACCOMMO THAN WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED IN I ONE MR. ARIBO? YEAH.
MY, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IN OUR, IN OUR CONVERSATIONS IS THAT YOU, WE, WE COULD NOT DO, UM, RETAIL TYPE USES ALL EXCEPT THAT THEY WERE LIMITED UNDER THE C ONE, BUT UNDER THE C TWO, FOR EXAMPLE, OKAY, WE COULD DO WINDOW TINTING AND THAT, THAT TYPE OF STUFF, BUT YOU COULD NOT DO THAT UNDER THE I ONE.
OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAD THE, THE ABILITY TO DO THE PROPERTY WITH EXISTING ZONING, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE THAT REQUEST.
BUT GI GIVEN THAT WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME EXPANDED USES AND CLEAN UP, CLEAN UP THE PROPERTY FROM AN I ONE THAT WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, ALLOW US TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT USE.
OBVIOUSLY IF WE COULD GET A C THREE RIGHT NOW, BUT RESTRICT IT AND GO THE OTHER WAY AND MAYBE RESTRICT IT AND SAY, OKAY, YOU GOT AN NINE ONE EXCEPT YOU CAN'T, UM, DO, UM, UH, AUTO REPAIR MAYBE OR SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GO THAT ROUTE.
I, I, I'M, I'M KIND OF LOST AND I KNOW WHAT, WHAT, UH, WHEN WE WERE TALKING, UH, LAST WEEK, IT, THE QUESTION WAS, WELL, THERE'S A AUTOMOTIVE TYPE OF THING SUCH AS WINDOW TIN AND ALL THAT.
YOU'D HAVE TO GET INTO A C TWO.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT EVEN UNDER THE, THE C ONE.
AND WE'RE LIKE, WELL, BUT WHY DO, WHY CAN'T WE DO THAT? AND THEN YOU
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ADD TO IT AND THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, IT, IT, THEN IT DOESN'T WORK BECAUSE THE C ONE JUST DOESN'T ALLOW IT BY, UH, BY RIGHT.AND THAT WAS PART OF US COME, YOU KNOW, REGROUPING AND SAYING, WELL THEN WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THE C TWO? IT'S A CLEAN, IT'S A, IT'S A CLEANER TYPE OF ZONING THAN AN I ONE.
AND THEN WE JUST ADD TO IT THE ABILITY TO, TO DO THE, UH, THE PRI THE PRIMARY, PRIMARY USE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AS FAR AS THE TRUCKS WOULD BE THE, UH, DELIVERY DELIVERY VANS.
WHICH WE CAN EVEN SAY, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, IF WE DO THE DELIVERY VANS, I, SO IF WE COULD DO THAT AND MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE COULD RESTRICT THE C THREE AS AND, AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
UH, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TOO.
I'M, I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHICH WAY TO GO BASED ON THE DISCUSSIONS WE HAD AND HAD THE ABILITY TO USE, UH, F THREE C THREE USES.
UH, SO, UM, TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I, I, I APOLOGIZE.
I KIND OF THOUGHT WE WERE HEADED IN A RIGHT DIRECTION BEFORE WE GOT HERE, BUT EVIDENTLY NOW I JUST HAVE NO IDEA.
SO
UM, SO I'M NOT MEANING TO MESS UP THE STRUCTURE OF OUR MEETING
SO, UM, SO AND SO I I JUST HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT YOU WE'RE JUST TALKING THE RENTAL OF THE VEHICLES.
ARE YOU TALKING THAT YOU WANT TO TENT THE VE THE VEHICLES THAT ARE HERE? ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BUSINESS? 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT, UH, THE TENTING UNLESS YOU MEAN TINTING THE VEHICLES THAT YOU'LL BE RENTING? NO, NO, THAT, THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE DEAL.
LET'S SAY WE WANTED TO DO WINDOW TINTING AND LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE THAT THE, THE, THE LEASE, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET ENTER INTO A LEASE WITH THE, UH, RENTAL COMPANY.
BUT LET'S SAY THEY, THEY GO AWAY AND THEN NOW WE WANNA DO THE WINDOW TINTING, WHICH IS, UH, A, A GOOD CLEAN BUSINESS JUST LIKE SAFECO AND THESE OTHER COMPANIES HAVE.
AND, UH, BUT THEN ALL BUT THEN UNDER THE I ONE, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
WE'D BE BACK HERE, WE'D BE BACK HERE AGAIN, UH, TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT ONE MORE TIME.
WHEN IN FACT, IF WE GOT IT FIGURED OUT NOW.
AND THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH C TWO, UH, CD.
I THOUGHT THE C TWO CD WAS STRICTLY FOR THE AUTO RENTAL, SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE ON A STRAIGHT PATH YET.
UM, STAFF ARE WE, UM, SO I GUESS, I GUESS HE'S ASKING SOMETHING ABOUT THE C THREE AND BEING ABLE TO WORK BACK WITH RESTRICTIONS.
UM, BUT YOU WERE DENYING THE C THREE.
THE EXISTING LAND USE IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
AND SO, UH, WE WOULD, UH, OUR GOAL WOULD BE FOR ALIGNMENT TO THAT CORRIDOR, WHICH IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND WOULD BE A C ONE.
UM, THE, THE ISSUE SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE IS, THERE ARE INTENSE USES THAT MR. OT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, BUT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE CD ON A PROPERTY.
SO EVEN IF HE DID A C TWO CD, HE'S ONLY GONNA GET IT FOR THE ONE USE.
UH, IT MAY ALLOW SOME OF THE OTHER COMMERCIAL ACTIVITIES, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE OTHER USES THAT ARE THE OTHER GAMUT OF C THREE AND I ONE ARE GONNA BE TWO INTENTS.
AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS CANNOT BE CONDITIONED DOWN TOGETHER.
SO IF, IF THE INTENT IS STRICTLY C TWO CD FOR, UM, THE RENTAL OF, UM, OVERSIZED VEHICLES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO RE-NOTICE ANYWAY.
UM, AND SO WE'RE WON'T BE ABLE TO EVEN HAVE THIS CASE THE WAY IT IS.
SO, MR. ARRADONDO, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN HAVE A DISCUSSION HERE OR DO WE NEED TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF SOME MORE AND THEN FIGURE OUT IF WE NEED TO RE-NOTICE? I YEAH.
IF WE KNOW IF WE KNOW THAT THE END RESULT WOULD BE THE, UH, AT, AT LEAST THE C TWO, UH, OBVIOUSLY IF WE COULD STILL STAY WITH THE C THREE AND WE COULD GET, UH, DATA APPROVED, THAT'S BETTER THAN AN I ONE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
SO IF WE COULD DO A C THREE NOW AND THEN, AND THAT DOES IT STILL, WHAT IT STILL DOES IS IT, UH, IS A DOWN ZONE FROM AN I ONE, WHICH, UH, HEAVY INDUSTRIAL DOWN TO RETAIL, WHICH IS COMMON, UM, AND, AND, AND CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE, THE MAPS THAT, UH, AND WITHDRAW THE, THE PRESENTATION
YOU KNOW WHAT, I DON'T WANNA PROLONG IT TOO MUCH MORE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE MOVING TO CONTINUANCE OR POSTPONEMENT ACTUALLY, BECAUSE NOW IF YOU ARE GONNA STAY C THREE, THEN I HAVE A LOT MORE, UH, QUESTIONS.
SO LET ME, UM, LET ME JUST CHECK REAL QUICK, MS. ARRADONDO,
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IF YOU DON'T MIND.LET ME SEE IF ANY OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UM, SO OF COURSE, UM, ANY, UH, COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY.
SO I, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE WERE FURTHER ALONG, BUT I GUESS NOT
LET'S, UM, LET'S, I THINK, THINK WE NEED TO REGROUP
I THINK WE'LL MAKE, WE'LL DO A CONTINUANCE EVEN IF IT ENDS UP BEING A POSTPONEMENT.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? YOU WANNA DO TWO WEEKS? YOU WANNA DO, UH, FOUR WEEKS? PROBABLY JUST PROBABLY TWO WEEKS.
UM, STAFF, WHAT'S THE DATE FOR TWO WEEKS? ALRIGHT, SO THE TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE IS AUGUST 18TH.
IF THE DECISION IS DURING THAT TIME, YOU HAVE TO POSTPONE MM-HMM.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR REIFICATION.
SO, UM, IF THE DISCUSSION IN THE NEXT WEEK IS THAT, UM, IT IS WHAT REQUIRES US TO RE-NOTICE, THEN I WOULD SAY A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE WOULD HELP US TO MEET ANY, UH, NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT.
SO TO RE HAVE TIME TO RE-NOTICE IF THAT DISCUSSION COMES DOWN TO THAT.
YES, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD HATE FOR HIM TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS ONLY TO HAVE TO COME BACK IN ANOTHER FOUR WEEKS BECAUSE WE NEED TO RE-NOTICE.
SO, UM, DID YOU HEAR THAT MR. A, A REDONDO? WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT? YEAH, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M THINKING THE MORE WE TALK, I'M THINKING MAYBE WE GO FOUR WEEKS AND I'M THINKING ALSO BY REGROUPING AND GOING FOUR WEEKS, THEN IT, IT MAY BE THE DOWN ZONE FROM AN I ONE TO A C THREE WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE ONCE WE FIGURE OUT, UH, SOME OF THE DETAILS.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO, UH, GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE FOUR WEEK, UH, DATE, SETH? SEPTEMBER 1ST.
I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CONTINUE THIS CASE TILL SEPTEMBER 1ST.
SO COMMISSIONER CAME, UH, SECOND.
SO THE MOTION WAS FOR CONTINUANCE.
COMMISSIONER MCGEE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER UH, KAMATH.
ANY DISCUSSION? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
SEEING NO DISCUSSION, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE.
[12. 20-4351 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700148 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 AHOD" Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District and "C-3 AHOD" General Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "R-4 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District on 27.75 acres out of NCB 11166, located at 12100 South US Highway 281. Staff recommends Denial. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services)]
I THINK WE'VE MADE IT TO OUR FINAL ITEM ON THE AGENDA.THIS REQUEST IS COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, I'LL BE RECUSING MYSELF FROM THIS ITEM.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S ON THE RECORD.
OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO R FOUR A H O D AT, UH, 12.
IT'S 12,100 SOUTH US HIGHWAY 2 81 S FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED R FOUR IS TOO CLOSE TO A MAJOR HIGHWAY.
THE HERITAGE SOUTH PLAN PROMOTES BUFFER ZONES SUCH AS COMMERCIAL ZONING AND USE IT AND USES THEM TO ACT AS TRANSITIONS IN BUFFERING BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
THE EXISTING C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND C TWO COMMERCIAL IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO THE AREA AND LOCATION AND ACT AS A BUFFER TO THE NEIGHBORING RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
THERE WERE 82 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? UH, READY THIS
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KEVIN? HELLO, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRWOMAN COMMISSIONERS.THIS IS DANIEL ORTIZ AND JAMES MCKNIGHT HERE WITH BROWN ORTIZ ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, UH, ALSO WITH US IS THE APPLICANT, SERA DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTED BY PAUL UA.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THROUGHOUT, OR OF COURSE, AFTER MY BRIEF PRESENTATION, UH, WE DO HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WE'D LIKE TO WALK THROUGH, UH, QUICKLY IF POSSIBLE.
JUST LET US KNOW WHEN THAT'S UP.
SO ACTUALLY, UH, FLIP INTO SLIDE TWO AFTER THE TITLE PAGE.
UM, THIS SLIDE JUST, UH, SIMPLY TO ORIENT THE, UH, THE COMMISSION, THE PROPERTIES HIGHLIGHTED IN THE RED BOUNDARIES THERE TOWARD THE BOTTOM OF THE SLIDE.
UM, IT FRONTS ON 2 81 AS YOU MOVE NORTH ON 2 81.
THAT'S THE INTERSECTION WITH FLORES ROOSEVELT.
UH, AND THEN AS YOU MOVE FURTHER NORTH ON, ON ROOSEVELT, UH, THAT ULTIMATELY INTERSECTS WITH, UH, FOUR 10 TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST IS THE MISSION DE LAGO COMMUNITY AND GOLF COURSE.
UH, AND THEN INCIDENTALLY, YOU DON'T SEE IT ON THIS SLIDE, BUT WE'LL, UH, PROVIDE IT ON A SUBSEQUENT SLIDE, SORT OF OVER BY THE, UH, WHAT LOOKS LIKE A LAKE, WHICH IS A LAKE.
UH, OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FLORES, UH, IS THE NEW T J X DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, IS A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SUBDIVISION.
THE PROPERTY'S CURRENTLY ZONED A COMBINATION OF C TWO AND C THREE, AS STAFF JUST MENTIONED, ABOUT 27 ACRES IN DISTRICT THREE.
OF COURSE, THE PROPERTY IS GENERALLY, UH, THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY IS AN EXISTING ROAD MISSION GRANDE.
UM, THE WESTERN BOUNDARY GENERALLY IS ANOTHER EXISTING ROAD CLUBHOUSE DRIVE.
UH, THE, THE PROPERTY IS, UH, CURRENTLY DESIGNATED IN THE HERITAGE, UH, PLAN AS SUBURBAN TIER, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUESTED R FOUR.
UH, ULTIMATELY WE'RE PROPOSING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 155 TO 160 HOMES, WHICH EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY SIX UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REMAINDER OF THE MISSION DE LAGO EXISTING COMMUNITY.
UH, THIS SUBDIVISION WOULD BE PART OF THE EXISTING H O A WOULD BE SUBJECT TO ITS EXISTING DESIGN, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, UH, AND WOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE, UH, AMENITIES WITH, UH, THE MISSION DE LAGO COMMUNITY.
UM, THIS IS, UH, JUST A, A LITTLE ZOOMED IN, UH, AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY.
OF COURSE, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AGAIN, BUT NOW YOU SEE THE T J X DISTRIBUTION CENTER, WHICH IS EXISTING, DEVELOPED, UH, THERE, UH, TO THE UPPER RIGHT, UH, OF, OF OUR PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 2 81.
AND FLORES, UH, OBVIOUSLY TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE, BUT ALSO TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THERE ARE SOME MAJOR EMPLOYERS IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA THAT ARE COMING.
UH, T J X IS ONE, NAVISTAR IS ANOTHER, GOING, UH, IMMEDIATELY SOUTH.
AND AS PART OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, WHICH WE ACTUALLY COINCIDENTALLY WERE, WERE PART OF, UM, CERTAINLY A NEED FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD OVER AND OVER.
UH, DRILLING DOWN A LITTLE FURTHER, UM, THE PROPERTY ITSELF, AGAIN, BOUNDED ON THE NORTH BY MISSION GRANDE.
WHAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT HERE IS THAT MISSION GRANDE OBVIOUSLY INTERSECTS WITH 2 81, BUT DOES NOT CONTINUE FURTHER, UH, FURTHER EAST ON 2 81.
IT ALSO DEAD ENDS, UH, GOING TO THE WEST INTO THE, UH, TO THE CLUB, UH, TO THE CLUBHOUSE FOR THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF.
AND THEN FINALLY, UM, THAT THERE IS EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY AND ACTUALLY CURRENTLY BEING CONSTRUCTED, DEVELOPED SINGLE FAMILY, UH, IMMEDIATELY AROUND US, ACTUALLY WITHIN SORT OF THE SAME, UH, OVERALL AREA, BOUNDED BY THE GENERAL STREETS WHERE THIS PROPERTY'S AT.
UH, THIS IS THE EXISTING ZONING, WHICH STAFF COVERED, BUT JUST TO, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, AGAIN, CURRENTLY ZONED TO C TWO AND C THREE, THERE IS COMMERCIAL C TWO AND C THREE TO THE NORTH OF US ON THE OTHER SIDE OF MISSION GRANDE.
UH, AND THERE IS, UH, C TWO AND I BELIEVE C THREE TO THE SOUTH OF US AS WELL, AT LEAST C TWO.
THERE'S R FOUR IMMEDIATELY WEST OF US, UH, WHICH WE WOULD PROPOSE TO BE A CONTINUATION OF THE GOLF COURSES ZONED R SIX, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY A GOLF COURSE.
AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, 2 81 IS R FOUR.
UH, VERY SIMILAR TO HIGHLIGHT WITH THE HERITAGE PLAN DESIGNATIONS.
ESSENTIALLY EVERYTHING HERE IS DESIGNATED SUBURBAN TIER, AGAIN, R FOUR AS STAFF NOTED IN THEIR SUMMARY.
UH, R FOUR, UH, WHICH WE ARE REQUESTING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT PLAN DESIGNATION.
AND INCIDENTALLY, C THREE, THE CURRENT, UH, PART, AT LEAST PART OF THE THE CURRENT,
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UH, PROPERTIES ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT CONSISTENT.UM, NOW REALLY SHOWING THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN HERE AGAIN, THE, THE OVERALL NUMBER OF UNITS, SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 155 AND 160, THE ENTRANCE TO THE SUBDIVISION, YOU WOULD COME IN OFF OF MISSION GRANDE TO THE NORTH, UM, TURN LEFT, START TRAVELING SOUTH ON EXISTING CLUBHOUSE DRIVE.
UH, AND THAT WOULD, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, I BELIEVE NATURALLY KINDA LEAD INTO AN EXTENSION OF THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY, THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED INTO THESE PROPOSED UNITS.
UH, YOU COULD FOLLOW THAT ROAD DOWN AND THEN EXIT AT THE, UH, SOUTHERN, UH, SOUTHERN PROPERTY, UH, WHICH IS AN EXISTING, IT'S ACTUALLY DEL LAGO PARKWAY, WHERE IT WILL ULTIMATELY PUNCH OUT BACK ONTO 2 81.
SO, UM, THAT IS THE LAND PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
SO ULTIMATELY, UM, WE BELIEVE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES WHERE THE TEXTBOOK LAND USE PRINCIPLES, UH, JUST DON'T MATCH THE REAL WORLD CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO WE, WE, WHILE WE UNDERSTAND, UM, STAFF'S ASSERTIONS AND THEIR RECOMMENDATION, WE ULTIMATELY, UH, DON'T AGREE WITH THE CONCLUSION.
UM, THERE WERE THREE MAIN ASSERTIONS THAT WE NOTED IN STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
UH, THE FIRST OF WHICH WAS THAT SINGLE FAMILY WOULD BE QUOTE, TOO CLOSE TO A MAJOR HIGHWAY.
UM, THE, THE TERM FREEWAY WAS ALSO USED, UM, IN, IN THE, UH, SUMMARY OR IN THE RECOMMENDATION.
UM, SO OUR, OUR ADDRESSING THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE VISUAL THERE, THAT IS ACTUAL 2 81 AS IT EXISTS, UH, AND WOULD EXIST.
UM, THEY'RE ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY NOT ELEVATED, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD CONSIDER WHEN YOU HEAR THE TERM HIGHWAY OR EXPRESSWAY.
IT IS ONLY TWO LANES RUNNING IN ONE DIRECTION, NOT 3, 4, 5, LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE ON A I 10, A FOUR 10 OR 2 81 NORTH FOR THAT MATTER.
UH, AND THEN JUST, UH, SPEED LIMIT WISE, UH, FOR WHAT THAT'S WORTH.
HERE'S, UH, 55 VERSUS WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE AGAIN ON THOSE, ON THOSE OTHER ACTUAL HIGHWAYS IN OUR OPINION.
UM, AND PERHAPS MORE IMPORTANTLY, UM, GOING ONTO NEXT SLIDE 10.
UM, THIS IS HOW IT WOULD ACTUALLY BREAK DOWN THE SUBDIVISION FROM 2 81.
SO, UH, IT'S KIND OF ZOOMED IN TO THE, TO THE LEFT THERE AND THE INSET, BUT ULTIMATELY YOU HAVE THE LANE, UH, A SMALL SHOULDER ADJACENT TO THE LANE, AND THEN WHERE THE PAVEMENT ENDS, UM, YOU HAVE ABOUT 50 FEET FROM WHERE THE PAVEMENT ENDS TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN WITHIN OUR PROPERTY LINE, YOU HAVE ANOTHER ABOUT 39 FEET TO THE BACK OF THE, OF THE PROPOSED LOTS.
AT THE BACK OF THOSE LOTS, WE WOULD HAVE PRIVACY FENCES, UM, AND THERE WOULD BE DRAINAGE AND OPEN SPACE IN BETWEEN THE EDGE OF THE PAVEMENT AND THE PRIVACY FENCE.
SO PUTTING THAT ALL TOGETHER, WE'RE COLLECTIVELY ABOUT 90 FEET FROM EDGE OF PAVEMENT TO AN ACTUAL PRIVACY FENCE, UH, WITH OPEN SPACE AND DRAINAGE.
A LOT GOING ON IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS.
UM, WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES THEN ON THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES, SLIDES 11 AND 12 OF ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE THINK IS THE REAL WORLD HERE, UM, WHERE YES, IT IS TECHNICALLY LABELED US HIGHWAY 2 81, SO WE UNDERSTAND STAFF'S ASSERTION, BUT THE REALITY IS IT'S REALLY FUNCTIONING MORE LIKE WHAT WE ALL CONSIDER AN ACCESS ROAD, WHICH IS NOT ELEVATED.
TWO LANES, ONE DIRECTION AND SPEED LIMITS ARE LOWER.
AND WE CAN FIND EXAMPLES OF THAT ALL OVER THE CITY OF JUST A COUPLE OF WHICH ARE, UH, HERE ON FOUR 10 AND PLEASANT 10, AND THEN HIGHWAY 90 AND PICCOLO CREEK, SAME SORT OF LAYOUT.
SO MOVING QUICKLY HERE AS I'M RUNNING OUT OF TIME A LITTLE BIT, UM, MOVING ON TO SLIDE THREE, CITY STAFF'S ASSERTION NUMBER TWO IS THAT THE EXISTING COMMERCIAL ZONING, UH, ACTED AS A BUFFER TO THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT ACTUAL, UH, MISSION GRANDE THERE TO THE NORTH, UH, CURB, UH, CLUBHOUSE DRIVE ACTUALLY SEPARATES THE MULTIFAMILY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL VERSUS ON OUR SIDE OF MISSION GRANDE, UH, THE COMMERCIAL AND THE, UH, 30 SECONDS, THE COMMERCIAL AND OTHER USES WOULD BE ON THE SAME SIDE AS THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY.
SO WE DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE A BUFFER.
IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE INCOMPATIBLE, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE.
AND THEN FINALLY, STAFF'S FINAL ASSERTION WAS THAT THE, THE PLAN'S GOALS FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, WERE FOR A SIGNIFICANT, UH, ALONG SIGNIFICANT TRANSPORTATION NODES.
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THAT COMMERCIAL SHOULD BE THERE.WE THINK IF YOU JUST KIND OF LOOK FURTHER NOTE NORTH ON SLIDE 14, THE APPROPRIATE COMMERCIAL NODE IS VERY CLEARLY, UH, DELL LAGO PARKWAY, WHERE IT INTERSECTS WITH FLORES 2 81 AND ROOSEVELT NOT MID-BLOCK, WHICH GRANDE IS, UH, GRANDE WOULD BE THE MID-BLOCK AGAIN BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONTINUE EAST OF 2 81 AND IT DEAD ENDS AT THE, AT THE GOLF COURSE.
SO ULTIMATELY, UH, WRAPPING UP HERE, OUR FOUR LAST SLIDE, OUR FOUR CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN, WE HAVE R FOUR AROUND US NATURAL CONTINUATION, UH, AND, AND, UH, MAJOR EMPLOYERS ARE BRINGING THAT A PRACTICAL ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE.
SO WITH THAT, WE'D ASK YOU FOR A RECOMMENDATION OF A APPROVAL FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY R FOUR REQUEST.
UM, IS THERE, UH, STAFF, IS THERE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO, MA'AM.
UM, THIS IS A, UH, DISTRICT THREE CASE.
SO THE REASON FOR THE DENIAL THERE IS BECAUSE OF US HIGHWAY 2 81, UH, IT AS THE LOCATION OF, OF, OF THIS, RIGHT.
SO, AND SO YOU'RE SAYING, UH, EXPLAIN TO ME AGAIN THE LAND PRINCIPLE THAT YOU DECIDED, UM, FOR DENIAL.
YES, THAT, THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE FACTORS, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN HOLISTICALLY.
AND THE, THE PLAN DOES NOTE THAT THE COMMERCIAL CENTERS SHOULD BE ACCESSIBLE AND LOCATED AT STRATEGIC NODES WITH LOWER DENSITY DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS.
AND SO THAT WAS ANOTHER STRATEGY THAT, THAT PULLED US TO THIS RECOMMENDATION.
AND SO IT APPEARS THAT AS THE CURRENT COMMERCIAL ZONING, IT IS APPROPRIATE AND COMPATIBLE WITH THE AREA AND IT DOES MEET THE GOALS OF THE HERITAGE SOUTH SECTOR PLAN FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THESE TRANSPORTATION, NO, WHICH IS HIGHWAY 2 81 IN THIS CASE.
UM, SO, UM, MR. ORTIZ, SO, UM, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WITH THE POSITION OF THE EXISTING R FOUR IMMEDIATELY, UM, BEHIND, UH, THIS SUBDIVISION, SO IT ACTUALLY BECOMES AS ONE SUBDIVISION AND THAT YOU'RE INDICATING THAT THIS WOULD BE MORE OF A BUFFER AS, SO CAN YOU, UM, TALK TO THAT POINT? SURE.
UM, I, I'LL GO WITH WHAT I, I BELIEVE AT LEAST THE SCREEN WE'RE LOOKING AT STAFF HAS THE, UH, SORT OF THE ZONING CASE UP ON THERE, WHICH IS A GOOD EXHIBIT TO USE FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
I THINK, AGAIN, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THE TEXTBOOK LAND USE PRINCIPLES DON'T MATCH WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE GROUND.
SO TEXTBOOK LAND USE PRINCIPLES, YOU HAVE SOMETHING DESIGNATED AS A HIGHWAY AS YOU WORK BACK FROM THAT SOMETHING COMMERCIAL MULTI-FAMILY TO PROVIDE AN INSULATION, A BUFFER FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY BEHIND THAT.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THOUGH, I THINK THE APPROPRIATE ANGLE WOULD BE TO WORK FROM THE GOLF COURSE, UM, AND LOOK BACK THAT WAY.
SO YOU WORK FROM THE GOLF COURSE, YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH OF COURSE IS GONNA FRONT ON THE, ON THE GOLF COURSE, AND THEN BEHIND THAT, UM, AND BETWEEN WHAT'S LEFT BETWEEN BEHIND THE SINGLE FAMILY AND THE HIGHWAY STAFF IS SUGGESTING THAT COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY WOULD SERVE AS A BUFFER.
BUT I THINK THAT IN REALITY WHAT THAT'S GONNA BE IS AN INCONSISTENT USE BECAUSE THOSE WILL BE LITERALLY SHARING PROPERTY LINES THAT EITHER COMMERCIAL OR MULTIFAMILY WITH SOME OF THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S ALREADY ON THE GROUND OR THAT'S COMING, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THAT EXHIBIT.
SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH A BUFFER, I JUST THINK IN THIS CASE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, IT'S JUST INCONSISTENT.
UM, PLUS IF YOU ZOOM OUT AND MAYBE ON THE, UH, UH, ON SLIDE, I COULD POSSIBLY GO BACK TO, UH, SLIDE 13.
UM, IF YOU COULD PULL THAT UP, THAT'S KIND OF A ZOOMED OUT PERSPECTIVE.
UH, CHAIRWOMAN, IF THAT SHOWS OUR PROPERTY SORT OF ON THE LOWER HALF OF THE EXHIBIT AND THAT, UH, MISSION GRANDE BEING THAT STREET THAT DEAD ENDS INTO THE, IT'S A CLUBHOUSE.
IF YOU LOOK NORTH OF MISSION GRANDE, THAT AREA, BECAUSE OF HOW CLUBHOUSE DRIVE KIND OF RUNNING TO THE WEST, THAT RUNS PARALLEL 2 81.
THE WAY IT CURVES, IF YOU LOOK TO THE NORTH, IT CREATES SORT OF A, A NICE RECTANGULAR AREA WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THE COMMERCIAL, THE MULTIFAMILY, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT IN THE BACKYARD OF THE SINGLE FAMILY THAT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF CLUBHOUSE DRIVE, BUT IT CURVES WHEN YOU GET PAST, UH, MISSION GRANDE THERE.
AND SO WHAT HAPPENS ON OUR SIDE OF MISSION GRANDE IS, IS CLUBHOUSE OCCURS AND NOW YOU HAVE SINGLE FAMILY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CLUBHOUSE DRIVE AS YOU CAN SEE THERE.
AND SO STAFF IS SUGGESTING THAT THE SAME PRINCIPLE WOULD APPLY.
AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE BECAUSE
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THERE'S JUST NOT AN AS MUCH PROPERTY THERE.YOU CAN SEE THE GREEN SQUEEZING IN MULTIFAMILY OR COMMERCIAL ON WHAT'S IN GREEN THERE.
THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT DYNAMIC THAN WHAT'S NORTH OF MISSION GRANDE.
UM, SO, UH, ULTIMATELY I, I, I GUESS I WOULD SAY SOMEWHAT RHETORICALLY, BUT, BUT NOT SO MUCH.
IMAGINE SIX MONTHS FROM NOW, IF I'M PROPOSING C THREE BEHIND THAT R FOUR WHERE THEY'RE SHARING A PROPERTY LINE, UM, THAT WOULD BE SORT OF THE, THE WAY TO THINK OF IT, UM, AS, AS TO, TO TAKE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO ITS CONCLUSION THERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE RECEIVED VERY WELL BY THE HOMEOWNERS OR MAYBE EVEN BY STAFF.
WE HAVE THE C THREES JUST INCONSISTENT WITH THE ACTUAL DESIGNATION.
SO, UH, LONG-WINDED ANSWER, BUT I THINK, UM, IT JUST, AGAIN, JUST SORT OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT A TRADITIONAL TEXTBOOK MIGHT LOOK AND THEN WHAT'S ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND OUT HERE IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY.
UM, I THINK THAT, UM, FOR ME, I, THIS AREA, THE HIGHWAY, I, I WOULD UNDERSTAND IF IT WAS LIKE AN ELEVATED HIGHWAY AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, THE HIGHER SPEED LIMITS, BUT THIS AREA IS STILL SOMEWHAT RURAL AND HOW 2 81 RUNS.
AND I, I THINK THAT I'VE EXPERIENCED OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ON THESE TYPE OF ROADS BEFORE, UM, AS I, UH, PERUSE OUR LOVELY TOWN
AND ALSO, UM, I LIKE THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE DIRECTLY ABUTTING THE ROAD AS WELL.
THEY'LL HAVE A NICE, UH, BUFFER THERE.
SO 90 FEET IN FACT, UH, FROM THE PAVEMENT BEFORE, UM, INCLU, I GUESS TO INCLUDE WHERE THE BACK FENCE IS.
AND I, I BELIEVE THAT IT'S ALSO CONGRUENT WITH WHAT'S EXISTING THERE.
NOW WITH THE EXISTING SUBDIVISION THERE, THAT'S R FOUR.
AND, UM, AND I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY POSE.
IF WE LATER COME AND TRY TO PUT C THREE THERE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT THERE, THEN THAT'S WHAT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE, UM, THEIR PROPERTIES WOULD BE FACING.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE TWO INTENSE.
SO WITH THOSE STOCKS IN MIND, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL, UM, FOR THIS ITEM SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER MCGEE, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION, ANY COMMISSION? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? I AGREE WITH THE COMMISSIONER.
I DO FIND IT, UH, A LITTLE BIT STRANGE THAT STAFF, UH, WOULD RECOMMEND NOT RECOMMEND IT ON 2 81 WHEN THEY RECOMMENDED A MULTIFAMILY ALONG 14 LANES OF 2 81.
SO I FIND THIS A LITTLE BIT, UH, ODD.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, WHEN THERE'S NEW DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS AND THE ROADS AREN'T REALLY THAT, UH, LIKE YOU SAID, ELEVATED, I THINK IT'S, UH, THINK IT'S A GREAT LOCATION AND A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE ON THAT SIDE OF TOWN OR HOME OWNERSHIP.
WHO DOESN'T WANT THAT? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAVE, OH, I'M SORRY.
SO THAT LOOKS LIKE OUR LAST CASE, RIGHT? YES.
IT'S, NO, WE GOT, WE GOT FIVE HOURS TO GO.
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OH, YEAH.I'M SURE YOU'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
SO THEN, UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA WOULD
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BE OUR MINUTES.UM, ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? OKAY.
UM, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, WAS THAT A FINGER RAISE? UH, I APOLOGIZE, IT WASN'T, I I DID WANT TO JUST COMPLIMENT THE STAFF ON KEEPING US ON OUR TOES FOR THE RECUSALS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY ACTUALLY OCCURRED.
OKAY, SO IF THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS, IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES? SURE.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES BY COMMISSIONER WHITE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE WITH A LITTLE SIDE JAB TOWARDS CAT FOR FORGETTING THE, UH, REFUSAL.
SINCE I MISSED ALL THE FUN OF THAT MEETING, I'LL ABSTAIN.
COMMISSIONER SY
ALRIGHT, SO, UM, SO WE WILL RECEIVE AHEAD OF THE MEETING, THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION SO WE HAVE TIME TO CONTEMPLATE THOSE.
WE'LL SEND THAT, UM, TO YOU, UH, NEXT WEEK BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
AND, UH, IT WILL BE AN ITEM PLACED ON THE AGENDA.
SO WE'LL HAVE IT, UH, DISCUSSED IN WORK SESSION AS WELL AS AN ITEM TO PASS THE RESOLUTION ONCE EVERYTHING IS UH, SOLIDIFIED
IS THERE, UM, AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT OR ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? NO.
I WOULD'VE BEEN OFF CAMERA
I CERTAINLY, UM, TAKE, UH, AM SO GLAD TO HAVE THE PLEASURE WITH SERVING WITH YOU.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING YOUR COMMUNITY.
I AM SO GLAD TO SAY THAT THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT 3:29 PM I WISH YOU A WONDERFUL, POSITIVE, PRODUCTIVE WEEK.