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IT'S 1 45 AND THIS IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION WORKSHOP.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED.
UH, WE DO HAVE FIVE COMMISSIONS ON THE LINE.
SO WE HAVE THE QUORUM SO WE CAN SIX AT LEAST.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTION? ARE THERE ANY STAFF ANNOUNCEMENTS OR QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO HANDLE RIGHT NOW? UH, UH, NO.
UM, WE DO HAVE SOME ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, ITEM NUMBER 15, UH, WHICH IS AN APPEAL ITEM NUMBER 20, WE ARE GOING TO PULL DOWN FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION 'CAUSE WE HAVE, UH, OPPOSITION FOR LIVE CALLERS.
ITEM NUMBER 21, ITEM NUMBER 25.
AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF RECUSALS.
FOUR, SEVEN, ITEM NUMBER 4, 4, 7, AND 14.
SEVEN AND 14 FOR RECUSAL? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
DOES ON ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT, DID CAMP BULLS RESPOND? IT LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE SENT A NOTICE.
WE'RE GONNA PULL UP THE RECORD.
YOU WANNA GO TO THE NEXT QUESTION? DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN ITEM NUMBER ONE? GUYS? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION FOR THAT ONE.
AND I WAS WONDERING WHY WAS THE SETBACK REDUCED FROM 20 FEET TO FIVE FEET? SO WE DID NOT HAVE ANY COMMENT BACK FROM THE MILITARY ON EITHER OF THESE.
THE, FOR YOUR SECOND QUESTION ON THE SECOND ITEM, THE APPLICANT HAS REDUCED THAT, UH, SETBACK.
UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY, IT AFFECTS ALL THE LOTS IN THE ENTIRE POD.
SETBACKS WITHIN PODS ARE ONLY EVER REQUIRED ON THE PERIMETER.
SO THE, A GOOD CHUNK OF THE LOTS THAT THEY'RE SEEKING TO REDUCE THAT SETBACK ON, IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY THE C ANYWAY.
UH, THEY DID STATE THAT THE KIND OF WHAT THE MARKET IS DEMANDING IS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME PRODUCT.
UH, AND THIS, UH, THE SINGLE FAMILY, THE SINGLE FAMILY, SINGLE STORY, YOU TEND TO HAVE A LARGER FOOTPRINT.
AND IT GETS TO BE VERY DIFFICULT ON SOME OF THOSE SMALLER P LOTS THAT, THOSE LARGER FOOTPRINTS ON THEM.
SO THEY ARE, UH, SEEKING TO REDUCE, UH, THE, THE SETBACK WE HAVE RECEIVED COMMENT FROM THE H O A, UH, THAT THEY ARE IN THE SUPPORT OF THAT REQUEST.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON NUMBER TWO? NO, SIR.
UH, ANYBODY HAVE, WHAT DO WE HAVE NEXT? UH, ANYBODY ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THE PLATTS OR COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, ANY OF THAT GOOD STUFF? NOPE.
UM, NUMBER 14, THE TIME EXTENSION FROM BROOKS? NO.
SOMEBODY GETTING A PHONE CALL OR A FAX? UM, CAN YOU, UM, YOU, YEAH, NUMBER FIVE, THANKS.
NUMBER 15, THAT ONE REAL QUICK, THE CHAIR, IF I MAY JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE ONE ITEM, UH, FOR, UH, NUMBER 10 THAT PLATT, UH, WHICH, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED, OR SORRY, WE HAVE A CITIZEN HAS REQUESTED THAT WE READ A STATEMENT, UH, IF YOU WOULD PREFER, RATHER THAN PULLING THAT FROM INDIVIDUAL, WE CAN READ THAT STATEMENT BEFORE, UH, WE TAKE A VOTE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
LET'S READ THAT STATEMENT BEFORE WE DO THE VOTE FOR CONSENT.
THAT WAY IT GETS INTO THE RECORD AND VERY GOOD.
UM, ITEM NUMBER 15, WHICH IS THE CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THAT ONE'S ALREADY, IT JUST SAYS REITERATE.
THAT ONE'S ALREADY ON INDIVIDUAL.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? IT IS GOING TO INDIVIDUAL.
UM, JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT ONE, DID THEY SUBMIT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE DENIAL WAS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T SHOW THAT THERE WAS ANY LEGAL DOCUMENTS ESTABLISHED TO JANUARY 1ST, 2005.
SINCE THEN, HAVE THEY SUBMITTED ANY LEGAL DOCUMENTS TO MEET THAT
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REQUIREMENT? NO.UH, THE, THE CODE IS PRETTY, UH, AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE PRESENTATION, THE CODE IS PRETTY BLACK AND WHITE ON THAT ONE.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THEY DID NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO QUALIFY.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE VARIANCES? ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS IN NUMBER 16, WHICH IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THE DOCUMENTS INDICATE THAT THEY'RE EXCEEDING THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE CHEAP PRESERVATION VARIANCE.
UH, IF NOT, WHAT ABOUT NUMBER 17, WHICH IS A FLOODPLAIN? I HAD A QUESTION ON THAT ONE.
DOES, DOES COSA REVIEW THE CALCULATIONS THAT THEY USE AND THE, THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENT, SINCE IT IS A FLOODPLAIN AND GRANTED THAT BE BUILDING ON THE FLOODPLAIN, DOES THAT HAPPEN LATER DURING THE INSPECTIONS AND ALL THAT? ALRIGHT.
WHICH, WHICH ITEM IS THIS? WE GOT ITEM, UH, NUMBER 17.
UM, YES, WE, WE DO REVIEW THAT AS PART OF THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS ON NUMBER 18? WHICH IS ANOTHER, UH, FLOODPLAIN VARIANCE, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT HAS, LIKE HOW MUCH OF, OH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE HOME OF THE, UH, GOLDEN CHEEK WOBBLER, I THINK.
HEY, UH, CHRIS, I HAD A QUESTION ON 17.
CAN WE GO BACK REAL QUICK? OKAY.
JUST A QUESTION FOR JAKE REAL QUICK.
ON, ON 17, JAKE, I'M ASSUMING THE HOME WILL BE A FOOT, THE FINISHED FLOOR OF THE HOUSE WILL BE A FOOT ABOVE THE FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION? YES, GEORGE.
SO, UH, MOVING ON TO NUMBER 18 FOR THIS ONE, A LOT OF THE, THE INFORMATION HAD TO DO WITH THE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY THE FLOODPLAIN ASPECT, BUT THE, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECT.
WHO KEEPS TRACK OF ALL THAT? MAKING SURE.
'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS LIKE SOME ENDANGERED SPECIES.
YOU HAVE THE EDWARDS AQUIFER CONTRIBUTION AND ALL THAT STUFF.
UM, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, WHO WOULD OVERSEE AND MAKE SURE ALL THOSE THINGS ARE BEING COMPLIED WITH? SO THERE ARE, UM, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH COMPONENT.
UM, SOME OF THAT IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HABITAT COMPLIANCE, WHICH IS, UH, A FEDERAL ISSUE.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE ARE THINGS NOT REVIEWED BY PUBLIC WORKS.
UM, I THINK THEIR POINT HERE WAS THAT IT WAS DRIVING SOME OF THEIR SITE DESIGN.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SAID, THERE, THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE PROCESS THAT, WHERE THOSE THINGS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? YEAH, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR JAKE ON THAT ONE.
UM, THE INCREASE IN THE FLOOD IN THE WATER SERVICE ELEVATION, UM, THEY'RE INCREASE IN THE WATER SERVICE ELEVATION THAT, DOES THAT ONLY OCCUR ON THEIR PROPERTY? YES.
BUT THIS ONE LOOKS LIKE THIS ONE'S GONNA STAY ON CONSENT, WHICH THE GOOD THING WILL BE, LOOKS LIKE THEY'LL GET RID OF SOME ASH JUNIPER TREES.
SO, AND THE INFAMOUS MOUNTAIN CEDAR, UH, NUMBER 19 IS THE FLOODPLAIN VARIANCE.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS ONE? IT SOUNDS LIKE STAFF IS JUST, UH, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
'CAUSE THIS ONE'S FOR PARKING LOT.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR JAKE ALSO.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ON THIS ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE MODIFICATIONS WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH ON FOR A WHILE.
UM, AND YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THE, THE, UM, DRAFT AMENDMENTS OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REVIEWING AND WE'RE GONNA MEET ON NEXT WEEK.
SO I'M ASSUMING THIS IS KIND OF ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THERE.
AND THIS ONE IS IN THE, UM, EITHER THE SAFE OR THE PROCEED WITH CAUTION ZONE ON THAT.
UH, FIGURE 4.3 0.1 IN APPENDIX H.
SO THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT.
UM, THIS IS THE, A GOOD COMPONENT OF THE PARKING AREA, NOT JUST THE DRIVE LANES WOULD BE INUNDATED.
UM, THIS PARTICULAR LOT IS FOR STORAGE OF 18 WHEELER TRAILERS, UHHUH,
UH, AND SO THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT, UM, THIS ISN'T A STANDARD PARKING LOT.
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THE DEPTHS OF A FOOT, UM, ARE NOT AS BIG OF A DEAL ON THIS PARTICULAR SITE.UM, SO IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT WITHIN THE SAFE ZONE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, IT'S JUST WE'RE CONSIDERING THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE THERE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT NORMAL, UM, PASSENGER CARS AND WHATNOT.
AND THIS ISN'T AN ISSUE OF ACCESS TO AND FROM THE SITE.
IT'S JUST A, AN INUNDATION QUESTION AS IF, IF THE FLOOD OCCURS.
UH, PLAN AMENDMENTS, UH, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND GET THE, UH, RESPONSES OR THE PLAN AMENDMENTS? SURE.
AND FOR ITEM NUMBER 20, THERE WERE 44 NOTICES MAILED 10 RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 19 IN OPPOSITION.
GOVERNMENT HILL IS IN THE, UH, GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE IS IN SUPPORT OUTSIDE OF THE 200 NO FOOT NOTIFICATION.
CIRCLE 14 ARE IN FAVOR AND 18 ARE OPPOSED.
THERE WERE 19 NOTICES MAILED ONE.
RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM 23, THERE WERE FIVE NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO NATURAL AREAS.
ITEM NUMBER 24 10 NOTICES ONE IN FAVOR.
NONE OPPOSED NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
NONE IN OPPOSITION, NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
UM, GOING TO THE INDIVIDUAL ITEM FOR ITEM 21, THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED NONE IN FAVOR, EIGHT IN OPPOSITION.
NO RESPONSE FROM DUKE MANOR OR LOWER SOUTHEAST SIDE.
AND THERE WAS ONE OUTSIDE THE NOTIFICATION AREA THAT WAS OPPOSED.
NONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
WHAT ABOUT ITEM 22? 22 WAS, UH, THE ONE WITH 19 NOTICES MAILED ONE IN FAVOR? NONE OPPOSED? NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE ONE THAT I DID MISS THAT'S IN THE LIST IS ITEM NUMBER 27.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS NINE NOTICES MAILED NONE IN FAVOR? NONE IN OPPOSITION.
NO RESPONSE FROM UPTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THAT'S THE ONE WE SAW LAST TIME, I BELIEVE.
YEAH, THAT WAS THAT CONTINUANCE.
DOES SOMEBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? THIS ONE PULLED.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? 21 IS ALSO PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THEY WOULD LIKE ANSWERED AT THIS TIME FOR THAT ONE? ITEM 22.
THAT COULD SHOW OVER WHY, WHY THEY'RE RECOMMENDING DENIAL.
DOES THAT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T FIT IN THE AREA.
IF YOU NOTICE THE MAP ON THIS LOCATION, IT'S KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
UM, THE AREA IS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL.
THERE IS SOME COMMERCIAL, BUT IT'S ALONG THE OTHER ARTERIAL PAST JU STREET.
SORRY, I DON'T HAVE MY MAP UP.
IS THIS THE SINCLAIR ONE THAT YOU GET? OH YEAH.
ANY OTHER ONES ON THIS ONE? IF NOT, WE CAN GO TO NUMBER THAT QUICK QUESTION.
MUTE ON THAT SAME ITEM THAT THEY WANT A C ONE.
DOES NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ALLOW FOR C ONE? YES, IT DOES.
DID WE OFFER A, UM, AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION AND DID THEY ACCEPT OR DENY, I'LL HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK THAT, BUT DE YOUR PROPOSING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR PLAN, I'D HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE NEXT, LIKE
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THAT MIGHT BE THE ONLY CATEGORY THAT THEY, THEY HAVE.YEAH, BECAUSE IN THIS PARTICULAR PLAN, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL GOES AS FAR DOWN AS NC AND C ONE AND C TWO.
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE REQUESTING THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL'S NOT AVAILABLE.
THAT'S THE PART I'M GONNA CHECK FOR YOU.
UH, ARE THERE ANY, WHILE STAFF IS LOOKING INTO THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? UH, HOW ABOUT 22, 23, 24, 25 IS AN INDIVIDUAL ALREADY, UH, 26, 27 OR, UH, ITEM 28, WHICH IS GIVING PROPERTY, I THINK, UH, LAND SWAP OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE WITH, UH, NORTHSIDE, I S D? IF NOT, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR, OUR QUESTIONS, WE WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH 'EM.
SO WE HAVE A STATEMENT ON ITEM NUMBER 10.
AND THEN ITEMS 15, 20, 21 AND 25 ARE BEING PULLED FOR INDIVIDUAL.
AND FOUR, SEVEN AND 14 ARE RECUSALS.
WE CAN GO AHEAD AND JUST START THE REGULAR MEETING WHEN YOU'RE READY.
UH, JUST TO CIRCLE BACK REAL QUICK, UH, THE GREATER W PLAN DOES HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CATEGORY IN IT.
IS EVERYBODY READY TO GO ON TO THE MAIN MEETING? YEP.
UH, COMMISSIONER'S READY? STAFF READY? IT READY? WE ARE READY.
[Call to Order]
GOOD AFTERNOON.MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER GARCIA AND I AM CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I HEAR, I CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO'S PLANNING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
IT IS 2 0 2 AND TODAY IS AUGUST 12TH, 2020.
CAN WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING? THANK YOU.
CAN STAFF PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER JACKSON PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER CARILLO, PRESENT COMMISSIONER PROFIT HERE.
COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ PRESENT AND CHAIR GARCIA PRESENT.
UH, PRIOR TO STARTING WITH OUR ITEMS, CAN STAFF PLEASE REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT RIGHT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF, OF C OVID 19.
PLANNING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSB OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3.
TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENTS, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES.
THESE INCLUDE MAIL, EMAIL, OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.
STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES.
AND FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED.
AND STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.
LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS.
SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY
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FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT, ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.[Consent Agenda]
PLEASE REVIEW THE LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND ANY PROPOSAL WITHDRAWN ITEMS. ALRIGHT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AGENDA ITEMS FOUR, SEVEN, AND 14, WHICH HAVE BEEN PULLED FOR REFUSALS AS WELL AS AGENDA ITEMS NUMBER 20 15 21 25, THE BALANCE OF TODAY'S AGENDA WILL BE CONSIDERED UNDER ONE MOTION TO CONSENT AGENDA.I DO HAVE ONE LETTER TO READ IN FOR THE RECORD FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, WHICH IS INCLUDED IN THE CONSENT AGENDA.
SHOULD I READ THAT NOW? CHAIR? UH, YES.
THIS IS FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 FROM FRANK ORMOND.
MR. HASLET, I REPRESENT BIG STATE NURSERY LOCATED WITHIN 2000 FEET OF THE APPLEWOOD UNIT NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS ITEM 10 ON YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA TOMORROW.
BIG STATE NURSERY, L L C IS VERY CONCERNED.
NO STORM WATER IMPROVEMENTS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS PROJECT.
TO MAINTAIN POST-PROJECT FLOWS TO PRE-PROJECT LEVELS, WE ARE DEVELOPING AND EXPANDING OUR NURSERY TO INCLUDE THE LAND DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET ON A 22 ACRE PARCEL WHERE STORM WATER WILL CROSS UNDER FM 1 43.
THE PROJECT WILL BIFURCATE THIS PARCEL DURING STORMS AND INCREASE DOWNSTREAM AFFECTING OUR OP OPERATIONS SIGNIFICANTLY, ESPECIALLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH CINCO LAKES PROJECT AND FUTURE APPLEWOOD UNITS SEPARATING EACH UNIT PIECE BY PIECE WITHOUT PROPER STORMWATER CONTROLS AND MITIGATION WILL HAVE AN ACCUMULATING EFFECT THAT THE WASH OUT OUR SHIPPING DOCK OPERATION AND FIELDS USED FOR PRODUCTION.
BIG STATE NURSERY, L L C OBJECTS TO THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNTIL ADDITIONAL STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS ARE INCLUDED.
BASED ON OUR OTHER CON CONSULTANTS, THIS PROJECT DOES NOT MEET STATE LAWS FOR A PLAT.
STAFF NEEDS TO RECONSIDER ITS SUPPORT.
BIG STATE NURSERY, L L C HAS EXTENDED ITS OFFER TO MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO CREATE A GLOBAL REMEDY.
HOWEVER, THEY HAVE NOT FOLLOWED US TO FIND A
WE HOPE THE STAFF WITH, UH, WE HOPE THE STAFF WITH SAN ANTONIO WILL DIRECT THEM TO MEET WITH US AND OUR CONSULTANTS ALL POTENTIAL FUTURE DAMAGES TO OUR NURSERY OPERATION.
IF THIS ITEM IS STILL HEARD AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL INTO THE RECORD AS OUR OBJECTION TO THIS PROJECT MEETING.
STATE GUIDELINES RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED.
UM, DOES THIS, AND THEN THIS PLATT WAS PRESENTED AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, WHICH TELLS ME THAT STAFF HAS REVIEWED THE PLAN AND IT DOES MEET ALL STATE AND LOCAL REQUIREMENTS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND BASED ON OUR REVIEW, THIS PLAT MEETS CODE.
UM, CAN WE LET, UH, CAN THE PM LET, UH, THE PROJECT MANAGER, THE YEAH.
PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CITY, LET, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS KNOW THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME FLOODING ISSUES IN THAT AREA.
THAT WAY, IF NEEDED, THERE CAN BE THE PROPERTY, THE PROPER REMEDIES.
UH, I'M WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND WE'RE AWARE OF THE SITUATION, UM, AND HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT THIS UNIT AND FUTURE UNITS.
UM, THE ROAD IN QUESTION THAT, THAT DIVIDES THE TWO PROPERTIES IS ACTUALLY A TXDOT ROAD.
UM, SO NEXT, UH, WE WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND, UH, POSSIBLY A SECOND FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.
MR. PROFIT, MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PECK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
STAFF, PLEASE CONDUCT A ROLL CALL VOTE.
MAKE SURE TO HIT UP MUTE, SIR.
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GO ON TO OUR INDIVIDUAL ITEM ITEMS. UH, FIRST WILL BE ITEM NUMBER FOUR, WHICH IS BEING PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.SO, WHO'S RECUSING ON THIS ONE? UH, THIS IS COMMISSIONER PECK.
I NEED TO REUSE FROM FOUR AND, UH, SEVEN, UH, YOU CAN HEAR THEM BOTH AT THE SAME TIME IF YOU WANT.
SIR, IF YOU WANNA TURN OFF YOUR CAMERA AND, UH, TURN OFF YOUR VOLUME.
SO, UH, SINCE THESE ARE TWO PLANS THAT MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR BOTH OF THEM.
COMMISSIONER PROFIT, MOVE TO APPROVE.
SECOND COMMISSIONER CARDILLO HAS IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PROFIT AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER CARDILLO.
UH, STAFF, CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER JACKSON? YES.
PLEASE LET, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK KNOW HE CAN REJOIN US.
[14. 20-4429 PLAT-TIMEEXT-20-12000008: Request by Leo Gomez, Brooks Development Authority, for approval of a three (3) year time extension in accordance with Section 35-430(f)(2) of the City of San Antonio’s Unified Development Code (UDC) for Plat # 160399 - BCB - Louis Bauer - Phase 1, generally located west of the intersection of South New Braunfels and Research Plaza. Staff recommends Approval. (Joyce Palmer, Planner, (210) 207-0315, Joyce.Palmer@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
NEXT WILL BE ITEM NUMBER 14, WHICH IS ALSO BEING PULLED FOR PURPOSES OF RECUSAL.CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? AND THERE WE GO.
CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? AND A SECOND FOR ITEM NUMBER 14.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER CARILLO AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PROFIT FOR ITEM NUMBER 14.
NEXT WE ARE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15.
[15. 20-4273 A request by Ricardo D. Renteria to appeal the staff denial of a Certificate of Determination UDC 35-430 (c) Plat Exception request for a proposed single-family residence, located at 17030 Shady Falls. Staff recommends Denial. (Daniel Hazlett, Planning Coordinator, (210) 207-8270, Daniel.Hazlett@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
STAFF CAN PLEASE, UH, PRESENT ITEM NUMBER 15.GO AHEAD AND GET OUR POWERPOINT PULLED UP.
ALRIGHT, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 15 IS A REQUEST FOR AN APPEAL OF STAFF'S DENIAL OF THE CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION.
THE APPLICANT IS RICARDO D RENTERIA, AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 1703 OH SHADY FALLS.
THIS IS IN THE, UH, OUTSIDE OF CITY LIMITS, BUT WITHIN OUR EXTRATERRITORIAL CHARACTERISTICS.
ALRIGHT, SO A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS INCLUDED IN A SALE REFERENCED IN A 2007 DEED.
AND WHEN I SAY REFERENCED, THAT IS A, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DISTINCTION 'CAUSE IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT ANY MENTION OF THIS PROPERTY WAS EVER ENTERED INTO THE PUBLIC RECORD.
UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WHO YOU WILL HEAR FROM SHORTLY, UH, ASCERTAINS THAT A SALES CONTRACT REQUIRING SET PAYMENTS OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS WAS ARRANGED IN 1999.
UH, THEY ARE ASCERTAINING THAT ENTERING INTO THAT UNRECORDED CONTRACT CONSTITUTES THE CREATION OF THE LOT.
UH, FOR STAFF TO APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION, WE ARE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A RECORD OF THE PROPERTY FROM THE BARAR COUNTY CLERK DATED PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2005 FOR THE FIFTH EXCEPTION.
AND I HAVE LISTED HERE THE CONDITIONS THAT MUST BE SATISFIED TO BE APPROVED FOR A CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION, UH, FOR A PLATT EXCEPTION.
UH, AND I'M GONNA READ, SO EXCEPTION NUMBER FIVE SAYS THAT THE PROVISION OF UTILITY SERVICE, NOT MORE THAN THREE DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON AN UN, PLATTED OR ANTIQUATED PLATT SHALL NOT REQUIRE A SUBDIVISION PLATT PROVIDING THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET.
AND FOR EASE, I HAVE HIGHLIGHTED IN GREEN THE CONDITIONS THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SATISFIED.
UH, THE TRACK IS WITHIN THE A T J AND HAS A MINIMUM OF 15 SQUARE, OR PARDON ME, 15 FEET OF FRONTAGE.
UH, BUT THE ONE IN RED IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UH, WE HAVE NO RECORD, UH, OFFICIAL RECORD AT THE COUNTY, UH, THAT THIS LOT WAS CREATED PRIOR TO JANUARY 1ST, 2005.
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I'D LIKE TO REITERATE THAT THE EARLIEST AVAILABLE RECORD IS FROM 2007, UH, AND IT IS FOR THAT REASON, UH, THAT STAFF ON JUNE 24TH, 2020, UH, ISSUED A DENIAL LETTER.UH, IT SAYS, AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS UNABLE TO APPROVE YOUR REQUEST FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON.
NO LEGAL DOCUMENTS IS FILED AT BEXAR COUNTY BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2005.
UH, NOTHING WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION.
UH, REAL QUICK, I DO WANT TO CLARIFY WHY WE REQUIRE, UH, THAT DOCUMENTATION TO COME FROM THE BEXAR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE AS A RECORDED DOCUMENT.
AND THE REASON THAT WE REQUIRE THAT IS SO THAT WE KNOW THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN A DSDS LONGSTANDING POLICY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS NOW, UH, THAT WE CANNOT ACCEPT ANY SALES CONTRACT, ANY SHEET OF PAPER, UH, ANY INFORMATION UNLESS IT IS QUOTE OFFICIAL.
UH, AND WE HAVE FOUND THAT WORKING THROUGH A RECORDS AVAILABLE AT THE BEXAR COUNTY CLERK'S OFFICE BE THOSE DEEDS, LIENS, RESTRICTIONS, COVENANTS, ANY RECORDED DOCUMENT WILL DO.
UH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS CASE, UH, THE APPLICANT WAS UNABLE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION.
UH, WE, UH, AS STAFF WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION WHEN WE TRIED TO ASSIST THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO THE APPLICANT HAS FILED FOR THE APPEAL, UH, ASCERTAINING THAT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT HAS REACHED, UH, AN INCORRECT CONCLUSION IN DENYING THE CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION.
THAT IS, THAT'S PRESENTATION WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE? YES.
UH, IF THE APPLICANT IS AVAILABLE, THEN PLEASE, UH, WE CAN PLEASE, UH, ADDRESS THE COMMISSION AND STATE THE CASE.
UH, MY NAME IS RICARDO DANIEL.
ANDREA AND I, UM, I PRETTY MUCH PURCHASED A, WELL, I I PURCHASED A PROPERTY BACK IN MAY, 2019 AND THERE WAS A MANUFACTURED HOME ON THERE, OR WHEN I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY, THERE WASN'T A MANUFACTURED HOME, BUT THERE WAS ONE BEFORE I PURCHASED PROPERTY.
AND THAT HOME DID HAVE A SEPTIC SYSTEM, A WATER SYS.
UH, IT DID HAVE THE WATER FROM EAST CENTRAL AND IT ALSO HAD, UH, ELECTRICITY FROM C P S.
SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, I STARTED TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
UM, I CALLED
THE ONLY THING THEY, THEY REQUEST WAS A RENEWAL OF, UH, SEPTIC TANK.
SO RIGHT NOW I'M PRETTY MUCH 95% DONE WITH, WITH THE HOUSE.
I'M LOOKING TO HOPEFULLY MOVE IN PRETTY SOON.
THE ONLY DELAY RIGHT NOW IS THAT I HAVE A C S WOUND, UH, NEEDS IS C O D OR A RELA.
IF BY ANY CHANCE I DO NEED TO GET RELA IT, IT IS GONNA SET ME BACK AND IT IS GONNA DETERIORATE THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO BE PAYING FOR TWO MORE, JUST WHICH, UH, AT THIS TIME WITH THIS, IF THAT'S GOING ON, I REALLY DON'T WANNA BE DOING THAT.
BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS PURCHASED OR IT WAS SOLD SUBDIVIDED BACK IN 99.
UM, THERE IS, I GUESS, UM, THE, THERE, THERE IS A SURVEY, BUT THERE IS NOTHING REPORTED TO, TO THE COUNTY.
BUT THERE IS A SURVEY SUBDIVIDED BACK IN AUGUST, 1999.
AND RESPECTFULLY, UH, FOR THE FINAL REASON TO REQUEST IS SINCERELY JUST CONSIDER PROVING MY APPEAL DETERMINATION IS JUST TO ALLOW ME UTILITY SERVICE WITHOUT FLOODING AND I DON'T PLAN TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY OR DO ANYTHING ELSE OTHER THAN WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING.
UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ONE? NO, THERE IS NOT.
UH, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
UH, WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF?
UH, COMMISSIONER CARILLO, NO QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE TRACK WAS PART OF A LARGER TRACK, RIGHT? IF YOU GO BACK FURTHER INTO THE CHAIN OF TITLE AND WE JUST FIND WHERE YES, SIR.
WE JUST CAN'T FIND WHERE THE THREE ACRES CAME OUT OF THAT IS,
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THAT IS CORRECT.IT, THE THREE ACRES WAS PART OF A 520 ACRE TRACK THAT WAS CONVEYED A DECEMBER 8TH, 1995.
UH, BUT WE HAVE NO OFFICIAL RECORD OF A 3.3 ACRE PORTION OF BEING TRANSACTED AFTER THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2005.
AND THIS IS STATE AND CITY, UH, STATUTE PART OF THE U D C, BUT IT'S ALSO, IS THAT A STATE STATUTE? YEAH, SO THE, THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE ENABLES CITY TO CREATE FLAT EXCEPTIONS.
UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS, UH, WE HAVE, UH, 18 DIFFERENT PLAT EXCEPTIONS, UH, THAT WE CAN WORK WITH.
UM, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, UH, OR ONE OF THE POINTS THAT THE APPLICANT BROUGHT UP IS THAT THE PROPERTY PREVIOUSLY HAD A A A C P SS CONNECTION.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER PLATT EXCEPTIONS THAT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY QUALIFY FOR.
ONE, UH, SIMPLY BY VIRTUE OF BEING IN THE E T J AND LARGER THAN 10 ACRES, YOU CAN QUALIFY FOR A PLATT EXCEPTION.
UH, SO FORMERLY A 520 ACRE PARCEL, IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT IT HAD A UTILITY CONNECTION.
UH, BUT THE REGULATIONS ARE VERY CLEAR THAT IF IT IS LESS THAN 10 ACRES, WE NEED THAT OFFICIAL RECORD BEFORE JANUARY 1ST, 2001.
AND JUST, UH, KIND OF FOR THE PUBLIC AND FOR THE COMMISSION'S PURPOSES, WHAT WOULD BE THE ESTIMATED COST TO, TO PLAT TO GO THROUGH THE PLATTING PROCESS THAT, SO CITY FEES WOULD BE ABOUT $1,275.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD, UH, HAVE THE EXPENSE OF HIRING A, A CIVIL ENGINEER TO CONDUCT THE FLAT WORK.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT IT, IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO GIVE YOU SPECIFICS ON THAT BECAUSE QUOTES CAN VARY SO MUCH.
UH, IF I, IF I MAY, UM, I MAY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
UH, I HAD GOT TWO QUOTES AND, UM, THEY, THE CHEAPEST, OR NOT THE CHEAPEST, BUT THE LOWEST PRICE I CAME ACROSS WAS LIKE 15,600.
AND IT WAS THROUGH, UH, GE REEVES.
AND I DID, UH, GET LIKE ANOTHER QUOTE AND THAT ONE DID COME IN LIKE AT 16,000.
AND, UM, IT IS, IT, IT IS, IT IS AN INEX EXPENSE.
AND IF, IF BY CHANCE, UH, I WOULD INFORM MYSELF A LITTLE BIT BETTER AT THE BEGINNING OF THE, OF THE BUILDING, I WOULD'VE PROBABLY DONE THIS DIFFERENTLY THAT WAY.
UM, JUST MAKE SURE I'M NOT GOING ANY OR VIOLATE ANY CODES OR ANY, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M, LIKE I SAID, JUST 95% DONE.
THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES NEARBY THAT, THAT HAVE IN THEIR, THEIR CASE IS SIMILAR TO MINE.
AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST, UH, ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I DIDN'T INFORM MYSELF CORRECTLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE STAGE.
WELL, I, I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS.
UH, COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA, UH, DOES HE HAVE TIME TO COME BACK OR IS THIS A ONCE A YEAR SUBMITTAL THAT HE HAS? IF, IF THE APPLICANT WERE ABLE TO FIND OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CONSIDER, THERE'S NO ONE YEAR PENALTY TO REAPPLY FOR A I IN, IN FACT, I, I WOULD SAY THAT IF THE APPLICANT WERE ABLE TO FIND INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO CONSIDER, I WOULDN'T EVEN ASK FOR ANOTHER APPLICATION BASED ON HAVE OR
UH, COMMISSIONER PECK? UM, YEAH, REAL QUICK.
SO WHEN WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS HOW DID HE GET THIS FAR, YOU KNOW, HOW DID HE GET THIS FAR DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT THIS ISSUE COMING UP BEFORE? I KNOW HE IS AN E T J, SO THERE'S NO BUILDING PERMIT REQUIRED, SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN CHECKED BEAR, BUT WAS THERE THERE SOME TYPE OF COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL INSPECTION THAT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED? I, I'M GONNA LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER.
UH, IF THERE WAS ANY INTERACTION WITH THE BEX COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL OFFICE.
UH, AS FAR AS MY UNDERSTANDING, UM, THERE WASN'T ANY INSPECTION OR ANY PERMITS.
UM, LIKE I SAID, THE ONLY PERMIT REQUIRED WAS THE RENEWAL, THE SEPTIC TANK, UH, AVAILABLE AT THE PROPERTY.
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AND OTHER THAN THAT WATER METER WAS ALREADY CONNECTED TO IT.SO, UM, I JUST PAID FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THE WATER METER AND, AND, UH, JUST OPENED THE, THE ACCOUNT FOR THE WATER.
BUT AS FAR AS ANY PERMIT TURNED THROUGH THE FIRE MARSHAL, UM, I CALLED THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND I CALLED, UM, THEIR COUNTY AND ALSO CALLED MONDOR, THE CITY OF MONDOR TO SEE IF THEY HAD ANY, ANY CODES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE ONLY THING WAS THE RENEWAL OF THE, UH, THE SECTION TANK THAT I HAVE THERE ON THERE.
THE, UM, SO AS PART OF THE SEPTIC TANK RENEWAL, THEY DON'T, UH, REVIEW TO SEE IF THE PROPERTY IS PLOTTED? NO, THEY DON'T.
UH, I SPOKE TO MY DAUGHTER, ALL HE NEEDS IS, UH, A MANIFEST SAYING PRETTY MUCH THE, THE GALLONS PUMPED OUT, THE GALLONS ARE IN THERE, THE GALLON'S PUMPED OUT, AND IT'S ALL HE HE REQUESTED FROM ME.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO CATCH IN BETWEEN, UH, THE BEGINNING AND THE NEED FOR ELECTRICAL SERVICE TO DETERMINE IF IT'S PLATTERED OR NOT, WHEN YOU'RE JUST BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON A, JUST A RANDOM LOT, I GUESS, OR RANDOM TRACT.
UM, IS THERE ANY PRECEDENCE, THIS IS THE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IS THERE ANY PRECEDENCE TO WHERE YOU COULD ALLOW THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY TO BE ISSUED ON WITH A CONTINGENCY THAT A PLATT IS DONE WITHIN 12 MONTHS? WE WILL, UH, ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS THAT ALLOW SOMEONE TO START THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, UH, AND CURRENCY WITH THE PLAT PROCESS? YEAH.
BUT THOSE ARE ALL ON THE CONTINGENCY THAT IT'S UNDERSTOOD THAT NO C F O WILL BE AWARDED UNTIL A PLATT IS REPORTED.
SO THE C F O, THIS IS USUALLY THE, IS IS IS THE CATCH ON ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS? YES, SIR.
SO, YEAH, 'CAUSE ONCE YOU ISSUE THAT, THEN I GUESS THERE'S NO WAY TO REVOKE THAT IF THE PLATT NEVER OCCURRED.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
UM, I'M LOOKING TO SEE, UH, MY QUESTIONS WERE, I THINK YOU ANSWERED, I THINK STAFF HAD ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS.
'CAUSE I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, HOW DID THEY END UP WITH THE, THE MOBILE HOME UTILITIES AND WHAT DOCUMENTS COUNT AS OFFICIAL, AS OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION? UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IF, IF WHEN THE, THE ORIGINAL, 'CAUSE ORIGINALLY IT WAS A LARGER PART OF, OF LAND, RIGHT? THAT ACTUALLY DOES HAVE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION THAT THIS WAS A PART OF.
YES, WE DO HAVE RECORD OF THE 520 ACRE PARCEL THAT IT WAS FORMERLY A PART OF.
SO IF THEY WERE TO SELL ANOTHER, LET'S SAY IT, SO IT'S 500 ACRES, THEY WERE TO SELL, YOU KNOW, TWO ACRES TO SOMEBODY, WHAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TO GET A CERTIFICATE FOR THOSE TWO ACRES THAT THEY'RE, THAT'S GONNA BE SOLD? 'CAUSE THE ORIGINAL, THE ORIGINAL LARGER LOT HAS THE DOCUMENTATION IT NEEDS, BUT NOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUBDIVIDING IT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CUTTING OUT A LITTLE PIECE TO SELL TO SOMEBODY.
WHAT HAPPENS SO THAT THAT BUYER CAN GET THAT CERTIFICATE.
SO IF, IF THE CURRENT OWNER OF THAT LARGER 520, I GUESS 517 ACRE PORTION, NOW WERE TO SELL THOSE PROPERTIES, THEY WOULD NOT QUALIFY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION BECAUSE THEY WERE CREATED AFTER JANUARY 1ST, 2005.
UNLESS THEY MET THE CRITERIA OF A DIFFERENT PLAT EXCEPTION, ONE OF THOSE BEING THAT THEY ARE GREATER THAN 10 ACRES.
SO IF, IF I OWN 517 ACRES AND I SOLD 50, THEN THE PERSON WHO OBTAINS THAT 50 COULD GET A PLAID EXCEPTION BECAUSE 50 IS GREATER THAN 10.
THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE DIFFERENT EXCEPTIONS.
THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE GUIDELINES DOWN FROM THE STATE.
UH, THAT'S VERY CLEAR ON THOSE PLA EXCEPTIONS.
AGAIN, PART OF OUR STRUGGLE HERE IS THAT THESE ARE STATE REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH.
THEY ARE VERY BLACK AND WHITE.
UH, AND IN THIS SITUATION, UH, THE APPLICANT HAD SEVERAL OF THE CONDITIONS BUT DID NOT MEET, UH, THE, THE SEAT THE THIRD.
SO THE, THE BASICALLY DID, WHEN, WHEN THAT, WHEN THE PARCEL THAT OUR APPLICANT, UH, PURCHASED, WHEN THAT PARCEL WAS CRE WAS SOLD OFF, BASICALLY AT THAT POINT IN TIME, BACK IN WHATEVER THE RECORD SHOWED, WHATEVER THE SALES DOCUMENT SHOWED, THAT'S
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WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE APPLIED FOR THE, EITHER THE CERTIFICATED DETERMINATION OR IF IT'S UNDER THE AMOUNT.I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY ACRES, UH, WE'RE DEALING WITH, BUT AT THAT POINT, THEY WOULD'VE EITHER HAD TO HAVE GOTTEN THEIR CERTIFICATE OR THE PLAT BASICALLY.
THE, THE IDEAL SITUATION WOULD'VE BEEN THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE 3.3 ACRES WAS CONTEMPLATED THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN DRAFTED UP IN A DEEDED OF SALE AND RECORDED AT BEXAR COUNTY.
THAT WOULD'VE BEEN WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS.
UM, IN THIS CASE, THERE WAS AN UNOFFICIAL AGREEMENT THAT A PROPERTY OWNER WOULD MAKE PAYMENTS OVER A SET AMOUNT OF TIME, AND BY THE TIME THOSE PAYMENTS WERE SATISFIED, UH, AND THE, THE LOT WAS TRANSFERRED OWNERSHIP, THAT WAS NOT RECORDED UNTIL 2007.
UH, DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
IS THIS COMMISSIONER CARILLO? UM, UM, SO I GUESS FROM LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE STANDPOINT, WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, APPROVES THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, UH, TO, UM, I GUESS TO APPEAL THEIR DENIAL? WHAT IS, WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED TODAY TO OVERTURN STAFF'S DETERMINATION? THAT WOULD BE A FINDING THAT STAFF WAS THAT STAFF ERRED AND ITS, AND ITS RESEARCH AND ITS FINDINGS TO DENY THE C O D AND THE APPLICANT WOULD BE AWARDED.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? JUST A QUICK QUESTION.
SO THERE'S NO, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO MAKE A VARIANCE IN THIS SITUATION.
WE MAKE A MOTION TO, JUST TO DETERMINE THAT THE STAFF MADE AN ERROR.
IT'S A ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION.
UH, THE APPLICANT IS APPEALING THAT DECISION TO YOU FOR YOU TO DETERMINE IF STAFF MADE THE CORRECT DECISION OR IF STAFF MADE AN ERROR.
AND THEN, AND THEN JUST ONE LAST TIME.
AND THE SALE, THE SALE, THAT SALE DOCUMENT, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT OFFICIALLY RECORDED, BUT THE COUNTY, AS YOU DESCRIBED EARLIER, THAT DOES NOT COUNT AS AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT.
WHEREAS IF IT WAS, HE, UH, WE'D BE IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
WE HAVE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS REQUIRED THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU ARE SUBMITTING TO QUALIFY FOR A PLAT EXCEPTION, BE AN OFFICIAL DOCUMENT.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, WE ARE OPEN TO WHAT THAT OFFICIAL DOCUMENT IS.
UH, WE HAVE APPROVED CERTIFICATE OF DETERMINATION REQUESTS IN THE PAST, UH, BECAUSE THERE WAS A JUDGMENT ENTERED INTO THE RECORD THAT REFERENCED THE PROPERTY BEFORE A CERTAIN DATE.
THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION MAY BE CONTAINED IN A RESTRICTION OR A COVENANT.
UH, BUT WE SEARCHED ALL AVAILABLE RECORDS, NOT JUST DEED, UH, TO TRY TO HELP THE APPLICANT FIND SOMETHING.
BUT WE WERE NOT SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS.
SO, AND IF THE APPLICANT OR ANY OF THE PREVIOUS OWNERS OF THE, UH, THE LARGER PLAT EVER FIND ANYTHING, THEY CAN ALWAYS PRESENT THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT, UH, OR THE STAFF? UH, IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY AT THIS TIME.
UM, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE CODE DOESN'T REALLY PROVIDE ANY FORGIVENESS AND THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY GOOD WAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
UM, THE CODE IS VERY CLEAR IN THIS CASE, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, GOING AGAINST THE CODE OR, OR, OR DISAGREEING WITH STAFF ON THIS AND WOULD CONTRADICT THE CODE AND COULD VERY WELL SET A PRECEDENCE FOR FUTURE SITUATIONS EXACTLY LIKE THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CIVIL ENGINEERING PLATTING IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING.
AND THIS IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE
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HAVE CERTIFICATES OF DETERMINATION, WOULDN'T SAY ON A REGULAR BASIS, BUT, BUT EVERY SO OFTEN AND YOU'RE CONSTANTLY HAVING PEOPLE ASK YOU TO LOOK AT A PIECE OF LAND THAT ISN'T PLATTED AND THEY DON'T WANT TO PLAT, THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY YOU TO PLAT AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY END UP DROPPING IT 'CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PLATTING OR DO THE PLATT BECAUSE IT'S EXPENSIVE.UM, SO THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO GOOD WAY AROUND IT.
UM, AND DO THE CITY ON THIS ONE, ONE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A CHOICE, BUT TO UPHOLD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, UM, THE CODE IS CLEAR.
IT'S WHAT IT SAYS AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE IN THIS CASE, BUT THAT'S THE REALITY.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO UPHOLD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
YOU HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER PECK TO UPHOLD STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND COMMISSIONER PROFIT? SECOND.
AND WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER.
UH, STAFF CAN DO THE ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
UH, AS, UH, COMMISSIONER PECK STATED, THIS IS A TOUGH ONE, BUT WE HAVE TO VOTE YES.
ITEM NUMBER, ARE WE, GO AHEAD.
[25. 20-4365 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2020-11600046 (Council District 4): A request by Brown & Ortiz, P.C., representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the West/ Southwest Sector Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Civic Center" to "Regional Center" on 2.178 acres out of NCB 13659, located at 8019 Interstate 35 South. Staff recommends Denial, with Alternate Recommendation. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2020-10700166) (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services).]
MR. CHAIR, THIS IS CHRISUM, I HAVE A REQUEST OF YOU THAT, UH, I FORGOT TO PASS ON DURING THE WORK SESSION.
THEY AMENDED THEIR REQUEST AND THERE'S NO OPPOSITION OR RESPONSE TO THAT ITEM.
SO IF WE COULD TAKE THAT UP NEXT, IT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
ITEM NUMBER 25 IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE WEST SOUTHWEST SECTOR PLAN FROM CIVIC CENTER TO REGIONAL CENTER LOCATED AT 80 19 INTERSTATE 35 SOUTH, THE APPLICANT SEEKS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO C THREE FOR A BANK, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF A BANK.
STAFF NOTED AN ALTERNATIVE, ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION OF GENERAL URBAN TIER AND C TWO ZONING.
AND AS OF AUGUST THE FIFTH, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO AMEND THEIR REQUEST.
SO STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE AMENDED REQUEST TO GENERAL URBANS HERE.
THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND I BELIEVE THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM BROWN AND ORTIZ ON THE LINE TO CONFIRM THE AMENDMENT.
CAN WE HEAR AN EXAM? OH, FIRST, YEAH.
UH, THAT BEING SAID, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A QUICK ONE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT, THEN WE CAN MOVE ON TO A MOTION FOR NUMBER 25.
COMMISSIONER PECK WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
SECONDS HAVE A MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PECK.
COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ STAFF TO DO THE ROLL CALL.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
MOTION PASSES IS SEVEN TO ZERO.
[20. 20-4271 (Continued from 07/08/2020): PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2020-11600028 (Council District 2): A request by Matthew Badders, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Government Hill Neighborhood Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan of the City, by changing the future land use from “Low Density Residential" to "Mixed Use" on Lots 1,2,3,4,7,8,9,10, Block 3, NCB 1178, located in the 2000 block of North Walters. Staff recommends Approval. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2020-10700113) (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
ITEM WOULD BE ITEM NUMBER 20.ITEM NUMBER 20 IS A REQUEST TO AMEND THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE.
LOCATED IN THE 2000 BLOCK OF NORTH WALTERS STREET AND I 35, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS A PLAN AMENDMENT TO MIXED USE TO REZONE THE C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS.
THE REQUEST TO AMEND A BLOCK IN ITS ENTIRETY IS APPROPRIATE PLACEMENT OF MIXED USE WITH ACCESS TO I 35 AND ALONG WALTER STREET.
IT ALSO ACTS AS A BUFFER TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL FROM TRAFFIC AND
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STREET NOISE.THE MIXED USE WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND THE CORRIDOR STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
THERE WERE 44 NOTICES MAILED 10 RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 19 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
THERE WERE 14 NOTICES RECEIVED IN FAVOR FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NOTIFICATION AREA, AND 18 RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET.
UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT AVAILABLE? MR. BATTERS, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I'M ON THE LINE.
YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
I WANT TO FIRST OF ALL ASK IF, UH, THIS SHORT PRESENTATION WAS RECEIVED AND IS TEED UP.
I KNOW I SENT IT TO, UH, A PARTICULAR POINT OF CONTACT.
UH, SLIDE NUMBER ONE GIVES YOU ALL A CHANCE TO SEE WHERE WE ARE IN THE CONTEXT OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND PROJECT HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE, BUT WE, UH, VOTED TO CONTINUE IT LAST TIME TO LET OUR CORRESPONDING, UH, NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH GO FIRST.
UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A, IN A MOMENT, BUT THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION, UH, FOR, UH, COMMERCIAL USE.
UH, SLIDE NUMBER ONE JUST SHOWS US THE AREA WHERE IT, WALTERS STREET AND I 35.
UH, OF COURSE IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO, JUST SLIGHTLY NORTHEAST OF DOWNTOWN.
SLIDE NUMBER TWO IS YOUR, UH, MAP OF THE DIFFERENT ZONING IN CONTEXT.
YOU CAN SEE OVER TO THE RIGHT, IT'S A COMMERCIAL UP AND DOWN WALTERS STREET RUNNING NORTH TO SOUTH.
UH, ONE SMALL PARCEL TO THE WEST IS ZONED NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
GOING FURTHER UP WALTERS STREET, YOU'LL SEE TWO PROPERTIES CURRENTLY ZONED COMMERCIAL, AND OF COURSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 35, IT'S A, IT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.
UH, THE THIRD SLIDE IS THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW.
AND THIS IS A CONSOLIDATED VIEW OF BOTH, UH, PROPERTIES.
UH, IN A MINUTE I'LL SHOW YOU THE PLATT DISTINCTION BETWEEN THEM AND WHICH ONE BELONGS TO MY CLIENT, MRS. MARTINEZ VERSUS WHICH ONE BELONGS TO FROST BANK.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE AND BEEN APPROVED.
YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS SLIDE JUST TO WHAT EXTENT I 35 IS MULTI-LANE.
I BELIEVE 22 WAS THE LANE COUNT AND I BELIEVE SEVEN OR EIGHT WAS THE LANE COUNT OF WALTER STREET RUNNING NORTH TO SOUTH.
IT'S A MAJOR INTERSECTION, MAJOR PASSOVER.
UH, THE FOURTH SLIDE JUST SHOWS DIFFERENT, UH, PROPOSALS FOR WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS TO THE SITE AS A WHOLE WOULD GO AND HOW THAT COULD IMPACT TRAFFIC.
THE FIFTH SLIDE SHOWS THE RESULTS OF THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS ON RECRUITING, UH, TRAFFIC TO THE SITE FROM EXISTING TRAFFIC PRIMARILY AS IT SHOULDN'T BE SURPRISING THE 40% COMING FROM THE, UH, ACCESS ROAD TO I 35.
THE SIXTH SLIDE SHOWS WALTER STREET FACING SOUTH.
THIS IS FACING DOWNTOWN SAN ANTONIO.
AND THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS RIGHT THERE TO THE RIGHT.
AND THE SEVENTH SLIDE SHOWS THE I 35 ACCESS ROAD, UH, FACING WEST.
SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT GIVES US A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON WHERE DRIVEWAYS WOULD GO AND WHERE THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD GO.
AGAIN, THIS IS A JOINT APPLICATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO THE SOUTH, UH, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THIS COMMITTEE.
THE IDEA IS JUST AS IT WAS SAID, TO CREATE THAT BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE COMMERCIAL USE AND THE RESIDENTIAL BY PLACING THE PARKING LOT CLOSER TO THE MORE RESIDENTIAL USES ON RENO STREET AND PLACING THE STRUCTURAL, UH, COMPONENTS ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
SLIDE NUMBER NINE SHOWS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DETAILED CONCEPT, UH, FOR THE CONCEPT OF A DRIVE-THROUGH, UH, STANDALONE, UH, RESTAURANT.
THIS COULD ALSO BE APPLIED IN A SHOPPING CENTER CONTEXT, DEPENDING ON HOW YOU WANTED TO ANGLE THE FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND ANGLE THE STRUCTURES TO AN ULTIMATE GROUND LEASE TENANT.
AND SLIDE NUMBER 10 JUST SHOWS A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ORIENTATION OF THE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, WITH, AGAIN, THE PARKING LOT IS A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THE STRUCTURAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL WITH THE GREEN SPACE, UH, BORDERING THE TWO RIGHT THERE ALONG THE
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TOP.AND SLIDE NUMBER NINE AND 10 ARE BOTH ORIENTED WITH THE WEST SIDE AT THE TOP AND THE NORTH SIDE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
SLIDE NUMBER 11 ILLUSTRATES, UH, WHAT HAS GOTTEN THIS PROPERTY INTO SOME SUPERCHARGED CONTROVERSY IN THE PAST.
UH, I THINK EARLIER IN SPRING, OR I THINK IT WAS 2019, A PROPOSAL WAS PUT IN TO ACQUIRE THESE PROPERTIES, UH, BY A MAJOR CHAIN OF GAS STATIONS CALLED QUICKTRIP.
THEY SUBSEQUENTLY DECLINED AND WITHDREW THEIR APPLICATION.
AND I'M APPEARING FOR YOU TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, UH, WHO IS PROCEEDING WITH HOPEFULLY A GROUND LEASE TO DEVELOP IT HERSELF.
AGAIN, GO BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER 10 OR TO GET A LONG-TERM, UH, SOLAR FINANCE PURCHASE TYPE ARRANGEMENT IN PLACE.
SLIDE NUMBER 12 SHOWS YOU THE 200 FOOT FOLKS.
I HEARD A COUPLE OF REMARKS ABOUT SOME, SOME NUMBERS THAT DIDN'T QUITE SQUARE UP WITH MINE ON APPROVALS RECEIVED WITHIN THE 200 FEET AND WITHOUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE THERE OUR MAP INCLUDES THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WALTER STREET, UH, AS WELL AS 35.
AND THEN JUST SO WE CAN BE SATISFIED ON OUR NUMBERS ITEMS 13 SLIDES 13 THROUGH, GOSH, IT GOES ON THROUGH 24, SHOW THE DIFFERENT APPROVALS THAT HAVE BEEN RECEIVED, UH, AT LEAST THAT I WAS ABLE TO GET SCANNED IN AND EMAILED TO YOU ALL IN TIME.
AND THESE WERE FROM THE ZONING CHANGE REQUESTS, UH, THAT HAS, THAT WENT THROUGH I THINK A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UH, BEFORE THE ZONING, UH, BOARD.
UM, SO ANYWAY, JUST WANTED TO GET NOT JUST MY SLIDE NUMBER 12 WITH MY CHECK MARKS ON IT, BUT THE UNDERLYING COMMENTS AND THE NEIGHBORS AND NEIGHBORHOOD WHO SUPPORTS IT.
DO WE HAVE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS ONE? YES.
UH, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND PLACE SOME VOICEMAILS AND THEN THERE'S SOME LETTERS TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
MY ADDRESS IS THREE 14 SANDMEYER.
PHONE NUMBER (210) 363-2050 REGARDING CASE ENDING IN 0 2 8.
I LIVE FOUR BLOCKS FROM THE MIXED USE PROPOSAL AND IS ONLY 58 FEET FROM MY CHILDHOOD HOME WHERE MY SISTER AND BROTHER-IN-LAW NOW LIVE AND 133 FEET FROM MY BROTHER'S PROPERTY.
I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 50 PLUS YEARS WHERE I WAS BORN, RAISED, AND ALSO RAISED MY FAMILY.
AND WHERE I PLAN TO LIVE MY RETIREMENT YEARS, I AM OPPOSED TO MIXED USE PROPOSAL.
IT SENDS, IT SENDS ME TO THINK WHAT UNKNOWN BUSINESS WILL COME INTO THIS QUIET AND PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND DISRUPT IT.
I JOIN AND OPPOSE WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND MY FAMILY WHO WILL BE AFFECTED IN THE 200 RANGE.
PLAN IN CONNECTION TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
I LIVE AT FIVE 15 HAYES, SEVEN EIGHT TWO OH TWO.
MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 325-9193.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO ITEM NUMBER 20 AND IT'S 2 0 4 2 7 2 1 0.
AND YOU KNOW, I FOLLOWED THIS CASE FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND AS A COMMUNITY ADVOCATE, I'M, I'M MORE THAN DISAPPOINTED THAT THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE FAILS TO, TO REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK FOR A COMPROMISE.
SO I CAN'T QUITE HELP FEELING LIKE HE'S NOT NECESSARILY, UM, ADVISING HIS CLIENT IN WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE THE BEST WAY TO TRY AND SOLVE A PROBLEM.
HAVING SAID ALL THAT, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DEALING WITH HERE IS THE FOLKS WITHIN 200 FEET THAT HAVE THE MAJORITY THAT WILL GO TO CITY COUNCIL NEEDING A SUPER MAJORITY, AND THE COUNCILWOMAN EXPRESSLY COMMITTING TO THOSE FOLKS WITHIN THE 200 FEET THAT SHE WILL NOT SUPPORT THE C TWO AS IT IS.
AND I'M GONNA HAVE TO ALSO TAKE A LEAP AND SAY THAT SHE WAS PROBABLY PRETTY CLEAR WITH MR. BAT BATTERS AND MS. MARTINEZ.
I REALLY LIKE TO USE MY NAMES, BUT HAVING SAID ALL THAT, MY BIG CONCERN IS THAT THE, WE KNOW IT'S NOT A GOOD FIT THERE.
THE, THE, THE, THE CITIZENS WITHIN 200 FEET SAY THAT.
WHAT REALLY IS DISAPPOINTING TO ME AS A COMMUNITY ADVOCATE, AGAIN, IS THE LACK OF
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THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO TRY AND NEGOTIATE THE BEST DEAL FOR MR. MS. MARTINEZ AND THE FOLKS WITHIN 200 FEET.IF THEY DIDN'T MATTER, THE CITY WOULDN'T BE MAILING OUT NOTICES.
SO I JUST DON'T THINK THAT THAT WAS A GOOD HI, THIS IS STEVE OR STEVE, 1 0 5 RENO STREET.
THIS REQUEST FOR LIFTS USE IS TOO AGGRESSIVE OF A CHANGE.
THIS PROPERTY HAS NO FRONTAGE TO I 35.
THIS PROPERTY IS DIFFICULT TO EVEN CREATE GOOD ACCESS WITH WALTERS.
A REASONABLE REQUEST WOULD BE LOW DENSITY MIXED USE OR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE CATEGORY.
A MORE REASONABLE PROPOSAL WOULD BE JUST THE VACANT NORTH WALTERS PROPERTY IN THIS APPLICATION AND NOT CHANGE THE ONE 12 GREEN PROPERTY WITH THE EIGHT DRAWINGS ON IT.
I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE COMMISSION'S HELP TO GET TO A REASONABLE REQUEST HERE.
THE CONTINUATION LAST TIME HELPED.
WE HAVE HAD TWO GOOD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPLICANT, HOWEVER HE HAS YET TO GET US ANYTHING IN WRITING.
HE MENTIONED A LETTER OF INTENT THAT EVAPORATED.
HE MENTIONED LEAD RESTRICTIONS, WHICH HE FAILED TO FOLLOW UP WITH INFORMATION ON.
HE MENTIONED A SURVEY, WHICH HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
WHERE'S, WHERE'S SOMETHING IN WRITING? WE NEED A STAKEHOLDER HERE.
WE NEED A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHY LANDOWNERS CAN JUST DECIDE TO CHANGE LAND USE BEFORE THEY SELL, JUST TO CASH IN AT NEIGHBOR'S EXPENSE.
THERE SHOULD BE A CONCRETE REASON TO CHANGE THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN.
WE HAVE ONLY TALKED, AGREED, THIS APPLICANT WANTS OUT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR HER RETIREMENT.
BUT THE APPLICANT SHOULD LEAVE THE CHANGES TO THE FUTURE LANDOWNERS.
ONE POTENTIAL FUTURE HONOR IS AN ENTREPRENEUR IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS WILLING TO REFURBISH AND DEVELOP UNDER THE CURRENT LAND USE.
DENIAL IS MOST APPROPRIATE HERE.
IF YOU CANNOT FIND DENIAL TO BE THE CORRECT MOTION TODAY, THEN PLEASE CONTINUE THIS AT LEAST ANOTHER MONTH SO WE CAN GET SOME ACTUAL INFORMATION ABOUT THE EXPECTED DEVELOPMENT HERE.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH SOME LIVE CALLERS.
I THINK WE'RE LOOPING IN THE FIRST ONE, SO GIVE US A SECOND.
THE FIRST ONE SHOULD BE ROSE HILL ONCE SHE, WHEN SHE IS CONNECTED.
AND JUST TO LET Y'ALL KNOW WHILE WE'RE CONNECTING HER, WE HAVE FOUR FOUR LIVE CALLERS FOR THIS.
AND THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
MS. HILL, ARE YOU THERE? MS. HILL? MS. HILL, ARE YOU THERE? YES SIR.
YOU HAVE, UH, TWO MINUTES AND MAKE SURE TO STAY ON THE LINE AFTERWARDS IN CASE THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS ROSE HILL AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AGAIN.
UH, FROM THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, Y'ALL HAVE REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE AND SINCE THEN, UH, THE, THERE'S BEEN THREE PHONE CALLS MADE WITH THE, UH, THE OPPOSITION TEAM ALONG AS WELL AS WITH THE, UH, UH, THE PEOPLE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
AND WE ALSO, UH, HAD A MEETING WITH DISTRICT TWO ON, ON THE, ON THE LINE FOR A ZOOM MEETING.
AND AS WELL AS SUNDAY, I MET WITH ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN OPPOSITION AND WE JUST, WE, WE DISCUSSED, UH, MORE ISSUES.
THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A, A, A COMP, UM, A LITTLE BIT OF A, UH, A DISCREPANCY REGARDING AN ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT VERSUS, UH, DOCUMENTS AND ALL WHAT HAVE YOU NOT, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION, BUT RIGHT NOW, AS WE SEE IT, AS WE HAVE BEEN TALKING AS UH, RECENTLY, UH, WITHIN THE LAST HOUR, THE ASSOCIATION SAW SOME VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT HAS GOT US TO BELIEVE THAT C TWO IN THAT AREA IS GONNA BE THE RIGHT THING FOR THAT LOCATION.
UM, MANY, MANY RESIDENTS, UH, IN THE AREA ALONG AS WELL AS BUSINESSES IN THE COMMUNITY ARE IN FAVOR OF A C TWO COMMERCIAL AT THAT LOCATION.
RESIDENTIAL IS NOT THE WAY TO GO.
UH, C ONE, UH, THAT I KNOW THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE WANTING.
BASICALLY, I UNDERSTAND WHERE THEIR POSITION IS COMING FROM, BUT IF THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA BE PURCHASING THE PROPERTY IS SAYING NO, THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO C TWO, UH, AND WE CAN'T, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A STARBUCKS IN THERE, THEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS GONNA SUPPORT THAT.
SO THEREFORE, AT THIS POINT, UH, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN OUR ABILITY TO TRY TO BE AS TRANSPARENT AND AS OPEN AS POSSIBLE FROM THE LAST TIME THAT WE SPOKE HERE.
UH, THAT IS A VERY BAD LOCATION.
COMING OFF THE INTERSECTION, YOU'VE GOT THREE CORNERS ALREADY THAT
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ARE COMMERCIAL WITH A LOT OF, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THAT DIRECTION.AGAIN, I WANNA EMPHASIZE THAT, UH, THE BROADWAY, THE WALTER STREET CORRIDOR IN 2010, UH, WHEN THEY DID THE WALTERS, THAT THERE WAS A PLAN IN THE PLACE THAT INCLUDED MANY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORS THAT SAW FUTURE DEVELOPMENT COMING FOR THAT, FOR THAT SECTION.
I HOPE AND PRAY THAT, THAT, UH, THAT, UH, THE NEIGHBORS WILL COME TOGETHER WITH, WITH THE, WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY CAN'T COME TO A COMPROMISE.
BUT RIGHT NOW, C TWO IS A WAY, IS A WAY THAT THEY ARE GOING.
SO WE WILL SUPPORT THEM UNLESS SOMETHING ELSE COMES IN CHANGES.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, THE CALLER STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON? NO, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS.
SO I JUST WANNA CONFIRM THAT CONVERSATIONS HAVE OCCURRED.
THIS WASN'T GONNA BE MY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
ONE OF THE EARLIER CALLERS SAID THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO, UM, CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE IN OPPOSITION.
AND THAT WAS THE PRIMARY REASON, IF I RECALL FROM A MONTH AGO WHEN I REQUESTED THAT THIS BE CONTINUED.
UM, BUT I WANTED A CONVERSATION TO CONTINUE.
SO, SO CALLER, UM, AND MS. HILL, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT? UM, YES.
AND THERE HAVE IN FACT BEEN, UH, FURTHER DISCRETION WITH THOSE EMPLOYEE, THIS ITEM.
AND THAT YES, MA'AM, IS EXACTLY AS YOU COMMISSIONER HAD REQUESTED.
AND WE TOOK THAT, UH, THAT REQUEST, UH, SERIOUSLY.
AND SO THEREFORE, THE FIRST MEETING WAS DISTRICT TWO.
MR. MILLER SET UP A MEETING WITH ALL OF US TO, TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A ZOOM MEETING.
UH, THEN, UH, THE, THE, THE, THE APPLICANT HAD TWO, UH, CALL PHONE CALLS WITH THE, WITH THE OPPOSITION, WITH, I BELIEVE THIS IS MR. STEVE
AND THEN SUNDAY, I PERSONALLY MET WITH ONE SOMEBODY FROM THE, UH, MR. LORENZO, UH, ON SUNDAY.
UH, AND THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A DISCUSSION BETWEEN SUNDAY AND TODAY OF, UH, SOME INFORMATION THAT CAME UP WITH, WITH AN ARTICLE THAT CAME IN THE PAPER VERSUS SOME DOCUMENTATION I SAW TODAY.
UH, AND SO ULTIMATELY, UH, WE BASE IT ON THAT.
SO WE DID COMPLY WITH WHAT Y'ALL REQUESTED.
UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONVERSATION GOING ON AND, UH, AND AGAIN, THIS C ONE IS WHAT CAME UP RECENTLY WITH, WITH THE OTHER, WITH THE OTHER GROUP.
BUT THERE WAS OPEN CONVERSATIONS.
BUT THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION WITH AN ARTICLE THAT WENT OUT IN SA HERRON.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IS, IS WHAT GOT EVERYBODY CONFUSED.
BUT YES, MA'AM, WE HAVE DONE EXACTLY WHAT WAS REQUESTED BY YOU COMMISSIONERS.
UH, COMMISSIONER PROFIT, UH, NO QUESTIONS.
IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HEAR THAT THE STAKEHOLDERS, UH, FOR AND AGAINST THAT ACTUALLY DID GET TOGETHER AND DISCUSS IT, UM, AND HOPEFULLY FIND A, UH, COMPROMISE.
SO, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENTS, BUT I'M PLEASED TO HEAR THAT THE DISCUSSION WAS MADE.
COMMISSIONER PECK, I HAVE NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLER.
CAN YOU ALL REITERATE, UM, THE, THE CALLER'S TITLE PLEASE? UH, MY NAME IS ROSE HILL.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL LINE TIP ASSOCIATION.
UH, I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN STAFF.
NEXT CALLER WE SHOULD HAVE IS LORENZO ORTIZ.
MR. ORTIZ, YOU ON THE LINE? YES, MA'AM, I AM.
UH, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, BUT STAY ON AFTERWARDS IN CASE THE COMMISSION HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
I, I GUESS TO START OFF, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 25 47, UH, UH, I 35 NORTH.
UH, I ACTUALLY MET WITH HER TO, TO LET HER KNOW, TO COMMUNICATE WITH HER THAT WE ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE.
UH, C TWO, I THINK IS A LITTLE, UH, TOO OPEN-ENDED FOR WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY WANTING THERE.
UM, WE DID JUST GO THROUGH COMMISSION AND COMMISSION, AGREED WITH THE ACTUAL HOMEOWNERS, UM, AS WELL AS BATTERY EVEN ACTUALLY SENT OUT TODAY.
AND I'M SURPRISED HE DID NOT ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE WITH Y'ALL THAT HE IS IN, IN AGREEMENT THAT HE IS WILLING TO DO C ONE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE GOING FROM LEFT TO RIGHT, RIGHT TO LEFT.
THERE'S A LOT OF MISCOMMUNICATION PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS.
THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME, UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS.
AND AS A HOMEOWNER, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT TRUE ANY, ANY,
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ANYTHING.AND ACTUALLY TRUE WRITING THAT MATTERS IS ACTUALLY PRESENTED TO US AS HOMEOWNERS, WHICH ACTUALLY GOING THERE, IT'S EASY.
WHEN HE FIRST CAME OUT TO, TO, WHEN HE DID THESE PLANNING, HE ACTUALLY TURNED IN A, A GAS STATION PRINT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE OPPOSED TO BEGIN WITH.
AND IT WAS EASIER FOR HIM TO DO THAT 'CAUSE HE SAID HE HAD IT AVAILABLE.
YOU KNOW, LET, LET'S FIND OUT TRUE FACTS AND LET THE HOMEOWNERS KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BE IN THEIR BACKYARD, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE BEEN MISLED AND, AND IT ALL STARTS WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE AND WE AS HOMEOWNERS HAVE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT VERSUS HIM REACHING OUT TO US.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND, UH, HOPEFULLY, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, TURN DOWN THE ACTUAL C TWO.
ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE NOT IN OPPOSITION OF, OF COMMERCIAL, BUT I THINK A C ONE FOR OUR COMMUNITY WILL ACTUALLY JUSTIFY AND DO ITS RIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JACKSON? NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLER.
UM, SO QUESTION FOR STAFF ON THE, UM, MIXED USE LAND DESIGNATION, SINCE WE DON'T APPROVE C ONE C TWO, WHATEVER ZONING IS ACTUALLY TIED TO THE LAND.
UM, THAT UNDER MIXED USE, IS C ONE ALLOWED UNDER MIXED USE? YES, IT IS.
SO JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE CALLER UNDERSTANDS THAT BY US APPROVING THIS CHANGE IN LAND USE DESIGNATION, THAT DOESN'T ACTUALLY, UH, UH, SIGNIFY THAT WE ARE APPROVING A C ONE OR C TWO IF, IF THIS BODY DOES DECIDE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM.
I DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME CALLING IN AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS MEETING WITH, UM, MS. HILL AND OTHERS.
SO AGAIN, I THANK YOU, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, UM, YES SIR, OUR ROLE IN THIS ITEM,
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER PROPHET, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, NOW WE CAN.
CAN I HAVE NO QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
UH, COMMISSIONER PECK, UH, NO REAL QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK THAT WAS AN IMPORTANT CLARIFICATION FROM COMMISSIONER CARILLO ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE C ONE AND C TWO BEING IN THE, UM, UH, MIXED USE AND, UH, THAT WE'RE NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR CHARGE AS PLANNING COMMISSION IS NOT ZONING.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE, THE, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATION.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLERS.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN STAFF.
THE NEXT CALLER WE HAVE SHOULD BE DORA EZ.
MS EZ, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES, I AM.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? ALRIGHT? UH, YES.
SO YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES AND AFTER THAT PLEASE BE ON THE LINE FOR ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE 58 FEET FROM MRS. MARTINEZ'S PROPERTY.
I'VE LIVED IN GOVERNMENT HILL FOR OVER 40 YEARS, AND MY HUSBAND 23.
THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES HAVE BEEN OWNED BY THE SAME FAMILY FOR 30, 40, 50, 60 AND 70 YEARS.
MY HUSBAND AND I LIVE IN MY CHILDHOOD HOME.
IT'S OUR RETIREMENT HOME OR FOREVER HOME.
WE, THE NEIGHBORS IN THE 200 BLOCK, I'M SORRY, WE, THE NEIGHBORS IN THE 200 FEET REACHED OUT TO MR. BATERS BY PHONE CONFERENCE SEVERAL TIMES TO DISCUSS COMPROMISE.
ALSO SUGGESTING HAVING JUST A FEW RESIDENTIAL HOMES OR CONDOS AS A BUFFER TO STILL FEEL LIKE A NEIGHBORHOOD.
MR. BATTERS LISTENED TO OUR CONCERNS AND ARE COMPROMISED.
HE JUST WANTS TO GET THE MOST MONEY HE CAN GET FOR HIS CLIENT.
ON JULY 21ST, THE ZONING COMMISSION DENIED THE APPLICATION OF A C TWO REZONING REQUEST SEVEN TO THREE.
THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THIS YEAR.
THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN DENIED EIGHT TO ONE.
MR. ERS HAS SHOWN US TWO SLIDES OF A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT AND A SUPER GAS STATION DURING THE FIRST PLANNING HEARING BACK ON JULY 8TH.
THERE IS STILL NO NEW PLANS TO LOOK AT OR TO TALK ABOUT.
IT'S JUST WHAT IF COULD BE OR MIGHT GO ON THE PROPERTY.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT IS TO BE FOOLED INTO THINKING A BUSINESS LIKE A STARBUCKS IS COMING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN UNTRUE AND IT BEING UNTRUE AND WE END UP WITH A GAS STATION, WHICH IS, WHICH WOULD BE A SAFETY CONCERN FOR ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ONLY 425 FEET AWAY.
THE THOUGHT OF A GAS STATION AND NOT KNOWING WHAT'S GOING
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TO BE DEVELOPED IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SCARES US.WE WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO MATTER NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
WE, THE NEIGHBORS IN THE 200 FEET AND BEYOND WANT TO BE HEARD.
OKAY, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE HAVE, THERE'S ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER JACKSON, NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS.
UH, COMMISSIONER CARILLO, UH, NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLER, BUT, UH, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO CALL IN.
COMMISSIONER PROFIT, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER PECK, NO QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLER.
COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ, NO QUESTIONS AND I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN STAFF.
ALRIGHT, THE NEXT PERSON WE SHOULD HAVE ON THE LINE IS VT COLE.
OKAY, SO YOU'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES, UM, AND THEN STAY ON THE LINE FOR ANY COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS.
AND WE GOT YOUR, AND YOU HAVE MY SLIDE? YES, YES PLEASE.
WE HAVE YOUR, I JUST HAVE ONE FOR PUTTING THEM UP.
JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I LIVE AT 1 0 5 RENO STREET, 24 FEET FROM THIS PROPERTY.
THERE WAS A 2001 GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
THERE WAS A 2010 GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN.
THERE WAS A 2011 VOSER STREET DESIGN CHARETTE.
ALL OF THESE PLANS KEPT THE WEST SIDE OF WALTERS, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE SMALL DROP ZONE CAFE AT THE CORNER OF CARSON AND WALTERS.
AND THE POSSIBILITY OF SMALL RETAIL IS THE CORNER OF WALTERS AND THE ACCESS ROAD, WHICH IS ACROSS TRUST PROPERTY OPENING JUST SEVEN YEARS AGO IN 2013, THE MORE THAN $4.2 MILLION PROJECT TO REDO AND WIDEN WALTER STREET CREATED FIRMS AND PHYSICAL BARRIERS TO SHIELD OUR WEST SIDE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
PER SITE PLANS, A GRADE WAS CREATED WITH A SIX TO 10 FOOT EMBANKMENT THAT EXTENDS BETWEEN JIM AND RENO ALONG THE MARTINEZ PROPERTY.
THERE ARE AND WERE TO BE NO CURVE CUTS.
ON THE WEST SIDE OF WALTERS, THERE'S A 300 FOOT LONG MASONRY AND STEEL WALL BLAZONED WITH US THAT RUNS ALONG WALTERS EXTENDING 30 FEET ALONG THE MARTINEZ PROPERTY WITH A WIDE MULTI-USE SIDEWALK PATH THAT ALLOWS CYCLIST, RUNNERS AND WALKERS A SAFE PLACE TO TRAVEL AND FLASHING SCHOOLS AND SIGNAGE WAS DIRECTED, DIRECTED FOR CHILDREN WALKING TO AND FROM PERSHING ELEMENTARY.
WHAT ARE THE REASONS TO THROW ALL THIS EXPANSIVE PLANNING TO AWAY TODAY? IS THERE A DEVELOPER WITH A SITE PLAN? NO, BUT CARE VENTURES DOES NOT WANNA GO AGAINST THE NEIGHBORS.
IS THERE A STARBUCKS IN THE WORKS? NO.
THE STARBUCKS REPRESENTATIVE SAID THEY WERE IN NO WAY INVOLVED IN THIS PROPERTY AND HAD SENT NO LETTER OF INTENT.
IS THERE A GOOD PLAN OF ANY KIND OFFERED BY THIS APPLICANT? THE 2020 EASTSIDE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS IN THE WORKS.
GARY SOLTZ, WHO'S BEEN WORKING HARD ON IT, IT WILL BE OUT IN A MATTER OF MONTHS.
WHY DON'T WE WAIT TO SEE WHAT IT SAYS? LET'S RESPECT THE PLANNING WORK OF THE PAST AND THE PRESENT.
LET'S NOT CHANGE THE LAND USE HERE FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT THE OWNER WILL GET MORE MONEY WHEN SHE SELLS IT.
LET'S WAIT TILL A DEVELOPER HAS A PLAN THAT FITS THE NEW EAST SIDE PLAN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UH, THANK YOU CALLER FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
THAT WAS VERY INSIGHTFUL AND, UH, A WELL PREPARED PRESENTATION.
UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS.
THANK YOU FOR YOU AT THIS, AT THIS TIME, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN YOU ALL.
THANK YOU, COUNCIL COMMISSIONER.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CARILLO.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU CALLING IN AND TAKING THE TIME AND, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO PREPARE THE THAT PRESENTATION.
COMMISSIONER PROPHET, NO QUESTIONS.
WE HAVE SOME LETTERS TO READ INTO THE RECORD.
UH, COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, NO QUESTIONS.
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THANK YOU.UH, COMMISSIONER PECK, UH, NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
UH, JUST ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UM, THE, THE PLAN FOR THE, THE NEW PLAN, WHEN IS, WHAT'S THE TIMELINE? DO WE HAVE AN UPDATED TIMELINE FOR THAT? UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS PART OF THE
UM, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, THEY MIGHT NOT BE UNTIL AT LEAST PHASE THREE OR PHASE FOUR.
UH, THANK YOU FOR CALLING, UM, STAFF.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL CALLERS? THERE'S NO MORE CALLERS, BUT WE DO HAVE LETTERS TO READ IN THE, INTO THE RECORD.
SO CHRISTY WILL START WITH THOSE.
THE FIRST ONE IS FROM YOLANDA DELPHINE AT 1 0 3 RIO STREET.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY HOW I FEEL THIS HOUSE HAS BEEN IN OUR LIFE SINCE MY MOTHER-IN-LAW PURCHASED IT OVER 60 PLUS YEARS AGO.
IT WAS HANDED DOWN FROM HIS MOTHER TO MY HUSBAND, AND WHEN WE ARE GONE, IT WILL BE HANDED DOWN TO OUR GIRLS.
WE HAVE A VERY PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WOULD LIKE IT TO STAY THAT WAY.
I WAS IN DIALYSIS FOR FIVE YEARS AND THAT CHANGED MY LIFE.
I FELT LIKE A PRISONER COULD NOT DO ANYTHING, GO ON VACATION OR GO TO MY GRANDKID'S GAME, WHICH I LOVE TO DO.
FINALLY, I HAD A KIDNEY TRANSPLANT.
NOW I HAVE A SUPPRESSED IMMUNE SYSTEM AND I HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL.
NOW WITH THE C OVID 19, I FEEL LIKE A PRISONER AGAIN.
AND NOW DURING THIS PANDEMIC, THEY WANT TO TRY TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD C TWO MIXED USE FOR COMMERCIAL.
THIS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR HOME.
WE KNOW THIS PROPERTY WILL SELL AND WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE, BUT NOT FOR A GAS STATION.
PLEASE CONSIDER US ON HOW WE FEEL.
C TWO AND A GAS STATION IS NOT GOOD FOR CHILDREN AND IT'S ADULTS LIKE ME WHO ARE ALREADY SICK.
THIS PIECE OF LAND IS ALREADY BEING ADVERTISED BY LOZANO PECAN TREE REALTY AS COMMER COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS NOT, WHICH IT IS NOT.
WE ALREADY HAVE TOO MANY GAS STATIONS AROUND US.
PLEASE THINK OF ALL OF US LONGTIME NEIGHBORS WHO DO NOT WANT THIS ZONING CHANGE.
OUR STREETS ARE GOING TO GET BUSIER AND WE HAVE A SCHOOL SO CLOSE.
WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT OUR FAMILIES AND CHILDREN.
WE WOULD LIKE MORE NEIGHBORS, NOT LESS.
C TWO GAS STATION WILL BRING CARS GOING WAY TOO FAST DOWN OUR STREETS, CUTTING THROUGH.
PLEASE RESPECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND DON'T LET THEM RUIN IT.
THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY RATE, WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN BY CHANGING THE FUTURE LAND USE FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO MIXED USE IN THE 2000 BLOCK OF NORTH WALL STREET.
THIS REQUESTED LAND USE CHANGE WILL ALLOW THE DEMOLITION OF SEVERAL PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL HISTORIC HOUSES AND CONTINUED COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO THE ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
FURTHER REDUCING THE AVAILABILITY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN SAN ANTONIO.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED, PATTY ZION, THE HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION, RIGHT ASKED, THEY ASKED IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE RESIDENTS OF GOVERNMENT HILL THAT YOU OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO C TWO.
AS SAN ANTONIO FACES THE HOUSING CRISIS, THIS IS SOON TO BE EXACERBATED BY THE C 19 PANDEMIC.
WE PRESERVE RESIDENTIAL LOTS THAT CAN SERVE AS DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS.
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU HONOR THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN, WHICH INDICATES LOOK DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THE AREA OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE AND ASK YOU DENY THE ZONING CHANGE.
RESPECTFULLY, HISTORIC WEST SIDE RESIDENCE.
AMBER LOZANO WRITES, I'M A RESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL AREA AND I RECENTLY SAW THAT THERE'S A REZONING ORDER ON EDGAR STREET NEAR FORT SAM HOUSTON.
THERE WAS RECENT TALKS OF BUILDING A QT GAS STATION A FEW MONTHS AGO, BUT THE RESIDENTS WERE ABLE TO PREVENT THIS.
I'M UPSET THAT THIS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL GAS STATIONS IN THE AREA, A FEW ON I 35.
THERE'S A VALERO IN THE PEARL DISTRICT THAT I AVOID BECAUSE OF HOMELESS AND DRUG SEEKERS.
THE CRIME IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HIGH IN.
MY FEAR IS THAT THIS GAS STATION WILL ATTRACT PANHANDLER AND HOMELESS.
IN ADDITION, THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT LIVING IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO A GAS STATION INCREASES YOUR RISK FOR CANCER.
THIS IS NOT SAFE FOR MYSELF FOR THE HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN WHO ATTEND THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL ONE BLOCK DOWN.
IN ADDITION, THE QT WILL INCREASE THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, WHICH WILL BE DANGEROUS FOR THE CHILDREN.
THERE ARE MANY CHILDREN IN THE AREA THAT WALK TO SCHOOL.
MY FEAR IS SOMEONE WILL GET RUN OVER ONE DAY.
MANY PEOPLE FEED ON CARSON STREET AS IT IS.
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RECONSIDER THIS REZONING FOR THE QT GAS STATION.THE RESIDENTS HAVE LIVED HERE FOR GENERATIONS.
IF THEY ARE FORCED OUT, THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO FIND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
WE ALREADY LIVE NEAR A BUSY HIGHWAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE AREA STRICTLY RESIDENTIAL.
I FEEL THIS WAS A HIGH INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF THIS WAS A HIGH INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD, THE REZONING ORDER WOULD BE SHUT DOWN RIGHT AWAY.
QT GAS STATION IS FINDING ANOTHER LOOPHOLE TO HAVE LAND OWNER GET THE PROPERTY'S OWN COMMERCIAL.
AND BECAUSE THIS AREA HAS MORE POVERTY ARE BEING TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF, WE ARE NOT OPPOSED TO DEVELOPMENT.
WE ARE OPPOSED TO LARGE UNNECESSARY C TWO REPLACING LONG ESTABLISHED RESIDENTIAL OWNERS ARE FREE TO MAKE A LARGE PROFIT ON SALE OF THEIR PROPERTY WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF ESTABLISHED, APPROVED, AND PROPER ZONING DISTRICT USES.
DEAR COMMISSIONERS, THE STATEMENT IS ON BEHALF OF A NUMBER OF DISTRICT ONE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS WHO ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH LAND USE AND ZONING ISSUES IN INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS.
EVEN THOUGH THIS PROPERTY IS NOT IN DISTRICT ONE, WE ARE OPPOSED TO THE REZONING FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS.
AND BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT WHAT IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN, THAT WHAT IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN IN ONE NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HAPPEN IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.
ONE, THESE REQUESTS ARE IN CONFLICT WITH THE GOVERNMENT HILL PLAN, WHICH WAS UPDATED IN 2010.
THE UPDATED LAND USE MAP AND THE REVITALIZE REVITALIZATION STRATEGY MAP BOTH INDICATE LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL FOR THIS ENTIRE AREA.
TWO, THIS REQUEST IS OPPOSED BY A LARGE GROUP OF NEIGHBORS WITHIN 200 FEET NOTIFICATION AREA, AND WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THOSE RESIDENTS.
THIS REQUEST IS IN ABSOLUTE CONFLICT WITH PROTECTING AND SUPPORTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH THE CITY HAS SPENT THE LAST FIVE YEARS ADVOCATING FOR.
WE DO NOT HEAR CONVERSATIONS WHERE ANY CITY LEADER IS BEGGING FOR MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
WE DO HEAR THEM BEGGING FOR WHAT WE DO HEAR THEM BEGGING FOR IS HOUSING.
THERE ARE EIGHT RENTAL UNITS ON THE ONE 12 LOTS THAT WILL BE VACATED AND DEMOLISHED IN ORDER TO ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL USE.
IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FOLKS WITHIN 200 FEET THAT ARE IN OPPOSITION HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD TO COME UP WITH ALTERNATE SOLUTIONS AND HAVE TRIED TO TALK TO THE PRINCIPALS ABOUT NEGOTIATING SOME KIND OF ZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL AND OR HOUSING, BUT TO NO AVAIL.
THE APPLICANTS ARE WORKING TOGETHER SO THAT THEY CAN MARKET THE PROPERTY AS ONE IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE SALE ABILITY AND PROFITABILITY, BUT THEIR PROPERTIES DO NOT EXIST IN A VACUUM.
AS YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT NEIGHBORHOODS FACE WITH LAND USE ZONING CHANGES IS THAT IT'S SETS PRECEDENT AND CAN LEAD TO COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENTS.
RIGHT NOW THERE IS ONE NC ZONE PROPERTY ON THE CORNER OF ED CUR AND THAT ONE WAS SIGNED BY DAVE WATSON, MARY JOHNSON, FREDA KUSHNER AND ELISA SHELL, CYNTHIA SPIELMAN AND ANTHONY GARCIA, MARGARET LE AND TAMMY KEGLEY.
MY NAME IS VALERIE REYNOLDS AND I'M EMAILING YOU REGARDING TWO CASES PLAN AMENDMENT ONE 13 AND ONE FOUR, EXCUSE ME, ZONING CASE ONE 13 AND ONE 14 BEFORE THE COMMISSION ON 7 21.
PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE THE CURRENT RESIDENTIAL ZONING TO C TWO.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SHOULD REMAIN SO HOMES THAT FAMILIES CURRENTLY OWN AND RENT THE AREA WOULD HAVE TO FACE THE REAR END OF A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS THAT COULD TURN OUT TO BE ANYTHING GAS STATION, FAST FOOD EATERY, ET CETERA.
WHO WANTS THAT IN THEIR LIFE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE ALREADY SIX FULL BLOCKS OF C TWO ZONING ACROSS WALTERS.
I HAVE HAD A NEGATIVE EXPERIENCE REGARDING PROPERTY OWNERS GOING BEFORE A ZONING COMMISSION AND NOT BEING TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT ALL THEY WOULD BE BRINGING INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD.
WITH THE ZONING CHANGE IN FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR, I LEFT THE 900 BLOCK OF NOLAN WHERE I OWNED A SMALL BUSINESS CALLED CHICA
ALMOST FOUR YEARS I LEFT THE AREA BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER BROUGHT IN A C V D SHOP SLASH BAR AND A TATTOO SLASH GUN SHOP.
IT COMPLETELY CHANGED THE ENTIRE VI VIBE OF THE BLOCK.
MY FAMILY AND MY CUSTOMERS AND MANY OF THE DIGNA WHITTY HILL RESIDENTS HAD NO IDEA THAT A GUN SHOP WOULD BE ALLOWED TO OPEN SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE SINCE RELOCATED OUR BUSINESS TO THE MONTE VISTA AREA OF SAN ANTONIO AS A RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO SINCE 2012.
I LOVE THE CITY AND ITS DIVERSITY.
EACH PART OF TOWN HAS ITS OWN PERSONALITY.
PLEASE ADD MORE HOUSING TO THE AREA AND KEEP COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC AWAY FROM THE PERSHING ELEMENTARY
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SCHOOL ZONE.ALSO, WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A PANDEMIC AND IT SEEMS LIKE A REALLY BAD TIME TO POSSIBLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT PEOPLE'S LIVES WITH THE THOUGHT OF HAVING TO MOVE LIVE FEET BEHIND A GAS STATION OR HAVE THEIR PROPERTY VAL VALUES DEVASTATED.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO READ THIS EMAIL.
I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE SOME OF THE THINGS I'VE WRITTEN ABOUT INTO CONSIDERATION AS YOU MAKE A DECISION.
THE NEXT ONE IS A PETITION THAT IS SIGNED BY 10 INDIVIDUALS.
IT SAYS, DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILL.
TWO RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS OVER TWO ACRES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST 30 FEET FROM OUR HOMES ARE APPLYING FOR UPZONING FROM R SIX TO C TWO TO ALLOW FOR UNSPECIFIED COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH COULD INCLUDE A MEGA GAS STATION JUST A FEW SHORT MONTHS AFTER THE QUICK TRIP.
MEGA STATION FIGHTS THE ZONING COMMISSION EIGHT ONE VOTE TO DENY THEIR APPLICATION AND THEIR SUBSEQUENT WITHDRAWAL FROM THESE SAME PROPERTIES.
THIS TIME, IT'S THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS WHO WANT TO DEVELOP.
OURS IS ONE OF SAN ANTONIO'S OLDEST FORT LAMB NEIGHBORHOODS.
MANY ARE MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOME FAMILY HOMES THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME FAMILY FOR DECADES.
THIS PROPOSED ZONING THREATENS EACH OF THE RESIDENTS HOME OWNERS CHILDREN, AND THE PERSHING ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CAMPUS, WHICH IS 400 FEET FROM THE PROPOSED PROPERTY.
THE 200 FOOT NEIGHBORS HAVE TRIED DISCUSSING COMPROMISE WITH THE FROST BANK TRUSTEE, WHO MANAGES THE FRONT PROPERTY AND THE LAWYER FOR THE LARGER ONE 12 MARTINEZ PROPERTY TO BE TOLD THAT THEY ARE UNWILLING TO GO FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN A FULL COMMERCIAL C TWO ZONING CHANGE, WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO SELL THE PROPERTY FOR THE GREATEST RETURN.
THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS TO DO MORE TO PROTECT ITS CULTURALLY RICH NEIGHBORHOODS.
THEY ARE THE ESSENCE OF WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT THE CITY, ITS ROOTS AND HERITAGE.
OPPORTUNISTIC LAND GRABS FOR UNNEEDED GAS STATIONS IN MARGINALIZED NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE GOVERNMENT HILL SHOULD NOT BE AWARDED C TWO REZONING REQUESTS.
WE THE MOST IMPACTED NEIGHBORS WHOSE HOMESTEAD STREETS IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS MOST THREATENED.
RESPECTFULLY AND WHOLEHEARTEDLY, REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST.
PLEASE DON'T KILL GOVERNMENT HILLS.
THE NEXT ONE IS FROM HELEN ANTES, WHO LIVES AT 6 0 3 SAND MEYERS.
MY PROPERTY IS SEVEN 11 SANDMEYER.
IT IS 166 FEET FROM THE ZONING REZONING PROPOSAL PROPERTY.
I MOVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL IN MAY OF 1946.
I NOW LIVE ONE BLOCK OVER FROM MY, MY CHILDHOOD HOME THAT I INHERITED FROM MY DAD WHO PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 106 IN 2015.
I HAVE LIVED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 74 YEARS.
I MAY NOW BE THE PERSON CURRENTLY LIVE.
I MAY NOW BE THE PERSON CURRENTLY LIVING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS BEEN HERE THE LONGEST.
MY CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN, AND MANY COUSINS AND NIECES STILL LIVE HERE.
IT'S MY HOME, IT'S MY NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S MY FAMILY'S NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH SMALL CHILDREN PLAYING IN THE PARK AND GOING TO SCHOOL.
TRAFFIC WILL BE AWFUL FOR THE SCHOOL BUSES.
A C TWO COMMERCIAL IS NOT GOOD FOR THIS RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE, THE NEIGHBORS IN THE 200 FEET ZONE ARE WILLING TO COMPROMISE TO LIGHT COMMERCIAL, NOT C TWO THAT WILL MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD UNSAFE FOR ME AND MY FAMILY AND THE KIDS.
PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TO CHANGE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
FROM RESIDENTIAL TO C TWO COMMERCIAL.
BETTY ALLEN FROM 1718 EAST CARSON WRIGHT.
MY MOTHER AND I MOVED FROM SUTTON HOMES HOUSING 30 YEARS AGO INTO OUR HOMES HERE, 17, 18 AND 1714 EAST CARSON STREET.
WE WERE BOTH ABLE TO BE HOMEOWNERS THANKS TO MR. GORDON HARTMAN AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
SEE THE NEWS ARTICLES ATTACHED.
MY DAUGHTER NOW LIVES NEXT DOOR AND I TAKE CARE OF MY BROTHER HERE IN MY HOME.
MY GRANDKIDS GO TO SCHOOL AT PER ELEMENTARY, JUST AROUND THE CORNER.
AND IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO US THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS STAY SAFE FOR ALL OF US.
WE DON'T NEED OR WANT A C TWO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY MOVING INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BRINGING LOTS OF TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE WATCH OUT FOR EACH OTHER HERE.
WE WANT MORE PEOPLE TO MOVE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT LESS.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DENY THE APPLICATION FOR REZONING OF CASE ONE 13 AND 14 MS. BETTY ALLEN.
THIS IS FROM MARLENE HAWKINS, GOVERNMENT HILL COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION OF REGISTERED ORGANIZATION WITH THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.
IF C OVID 19 HAD NOT OCCURRED, THE EAST SIDE COMMUNITY PLAN WOULD BE IN PLACE.
THE LAND USE PLAN THAT WAS DECIDED ON WAS URBAN LOW DENSITY.
THE LAND USE EVEN ALLOWS NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL THIS CASE AS A
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CHANGE TO MIXED USE.THIS CHANGE WOULD ALLOW ZONING C TWO.
THIS ZONING WOULD PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR INAPPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT.
THE ZONING COMMISSION VOTED AGAINST THIS CHANGE.
THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS TO TEAR DOWN EIGHT LIVABLE HOUSES THAT TENANTS WERE TOLD TO MOVE OUT OF OR PAY MORE THAN DOUBLE THE RENT.
I HOPE SARAH WILL AGREE TO SELL THESE HOUSES INSTEAD OF DEMOLISHING THEM.
F H A HAS A LOAN THAT INCLUDES REPAIR MONEY.
THIS WOULD BE A GOOD SOLUTION TO ACCOMPLISHING SARAH'S GOAL OF GETTING OUT, OF BEING A LANDLORD, MAKING A GOOD PROFIT FOR HER, AND MAKING HOUSES AVAILABLE AT AN AFFORDABLE RATE.
THE LOAN IS THE F H A 2 0 3 K.
THIS WILL ALLOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO WORK WITH THE OWNER FOR THE BEST SOLUTION FOR BOTH.
THIS ONE'S FROM MONICA SAVINO.
I'M CON CONTACTING TO LET YOU KNOW OUR HOUSEHOLD'S OPPOSITION TO THE APPLICANT'S PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL EXCUSE.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE AT THE LOCATION THAT JUSTIFIES THIS SIGNIFICANT LEAP IN USE CHANGE IF A PLANNING USE CHANGE IS RESTRICTED, AN INCREMENTAL AND SUSTAINABLE CHANGE MIGHT BE WARRANTED, BUT NOT LD MIXED USE.
AFTER WALKING THE AREA, IT'S CLEAR THAT A REQUEST THAT RESULTS IN HIGHER DENSITY AND INCONGRUENT USE WOULD BE UNREASONABLE FOR SO MANY ADJACENT PROPERTIES HELD BY MANY DIFFERENT OWNERS.
THE ACTUAL LAND USE CONFIRMS THIS.
EVEN THE ONE NON-RESIDENTIAL USE TO THE EAST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WALTERS THAT IS DESIGNATED AS MIXED D REMAINS VACANT AND
YOUR GREATEST CONSULTANTS AND ASSETS ON THE POTENTIALLY RESPONSIVE USE OF THESE PARCELS AT ONE 12 RENO WILL BE THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE, AND WE ENCOURAGE PLANNING AND THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER THE IMMENSE VALUE OF THOSE VOICES AND EXPERIENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AGAIN, WE OPPOSE A PLAN AMENDMENT CHANGE THAT MERELY REFLECTS SPECULATIVE DESIRES OF A FEW OF A SELECT FEW IN LIEU OF ACTUAL CURRENT REDEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS AND CO COSTA CULVIN AT EIGHT 17 WEST MAGNOLIA RIGHTS.
ALTHOUGH I'M NOT A RESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT HILL, I HAVE SPENT THE LAST DAY DECADE WORKING WITH MY NEIGHBORHOOD OF DEACON HILL AND WITH THE TIER ONE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION ON MATTERS OF PLANNING AND ZONING.
I HAVE ALSO SERVED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TECHNO TECHNICAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT THE REQUEST OF THE RESIDENTS FOR IN OPPOSITION.
I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS CASE AND LENDING SUPPORT AND IDEAS FOR POSSIBLE.
I HAVE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR PASSION AND THE TIME AND EFFORT THEY HAVE PUT INTO TRYING TO COME UP WITH A COMPROMISED POSITION.
SO OFTEN MATTERS OF PLANNING AND ZONING ARE PAINTED AS A BLACK AND WHITE, YES OR NO, BUT MR. RSTI AND HIS GROUP HAVE MADE A SIGNIFICANT EFFORT TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT SERVE BOTH THE SELLER AND THE COMMUNITY.
THE LAND USE REQUESTED IS STILL, UNNEC IS STILL UNNECESSARILY INTENSE FOR A CORRESPONDINGLY APPROPRIATE ZONING AND USE.
I ASK THAT YOU DENY THE REQUEST FOR MIXED USE IN FAVOR OF LOW DENSITY MIXED USE.
I BALANCING THE GOALS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO MAXIMIZE THE PROFITABILITY OF THEIR LAND WITH THE PROPERTY RIGHTS OF THE NEARBY RESIDENTS TO QUIET ENJOYMENT OF THEIR HOMES.
LOW DENSITY EXCUSE IS A GOOD MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL SOLUTION.
UM, THERE APPEAR TO BE SOME HANDWRITTEN NOTES IN SPANISH THAT YOU SCROLLED BY.
DID THOSE GET SUBMITTED INTO THE RECORDS RECORD OR WAS THAT, WAS, WAS, WAS THOSE ALREADY TRANSLATED? UM, NO, I JUST, IT WAS NOT READABLE, BUT I FOUND A COPY THAT'S READABLE.
SO IT SAYS 35 AT THREE 12 TILDEN.
SO IS THAT, UH, AND NOW I NOW I'LL TRANSLATE IT TO ENGLISH FOR YOU.
SO IT SAYS THAT THIS, UM, PROPERTY AT THE CORNER OF WALTERS AND 35 IS APPROPRIATE FOR C THREE COMMERCIAL.
IT'S NOT GOOD FOR RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENT PORTION HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
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IS THAT CORRECT? NO MORE CALLS OR EMAILS OR LETTERS.NOW IT'S TIME FOR COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? UH, WE'RE STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
I MEANT, UH, IT'S PROBABLY TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE REBUTTAL TIME IF THEY'D LIKE TO USE OH, YES.
WELL, I, I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR ABOUT HALF OF THOSE OPPOSED, UH, WHOSE COMMENTS WERE ABOUT A GAS STATION.
AND I, I MIGHT HAVE NOT BEEN AS CLEAR AS I COULD HAVE BEEN AT THE EARLIER PART OF MY PRESENTATION.
UH, IF YOU'LL SCROLL BACK TO MY SLIDE NUMBER 11, THAT IS OFFERED AS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED BY A DIFFERENT APPLICANT THAT WE ARE NOT PROPOSING AND NOT INTENDING TO DO.
IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'S NO GAS STATION GOING IN.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT SHOULD CALM DOWN ABOUT HALF OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE CONCERNED.
IF YOU'LL GO TO SLIDE NUMBER NINE, THIS IS THE LEADING PROPOSAL, BUT THIS REQUIRES PARTNERSHIP WITH EITHER THE RIGHT BROKER, THE RIGHT DEVELOPER, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT BROKER PARTNER, UH, DESPITE, UH, SOME PEOPLE'S REQUEST ATTEMPTS TO INTERFERE WITH THAT.
UH, AND THEN IF YOU'LL GO TO SLIDE 12, UH, AGAIN, WE'LL KEEP TALKING THROUGH SOME OTHER THINGS THAT I HEARD HERE.
I WANNA POINT OUT THIS PROPERTY AT ONE 15 RENO STREET WITH THE GREEN CHECK MARK ON IT.
RIGHT ACROSS FROM IT, THAT PROPERTY IS ALSO A HOME OWNED BY THE APPLICANT, MY CLIENT, MRS. MARTINEZ.
SO SHE, SHE IS AS EFFECTIVE ACROSS THE STREET HERE AS MANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BE.
AND AGAIN, IF WE CAN TOGGLE BACK TO SLIDE NUMBER NINE, YOU WILL SEE THAT NOBODY IS PROPOSING TO PUT A STRUCTURE OR IMPROVEMENT 58 FEET FROM ANYONE'S FRONT DOOR.
UH, RATHER IT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE.
AND WE AGREE WITH STAFF TO KEEP THE COMMERCIAL USE CLOSER TO THE I 35 WALTERS INTERSECTION.
UH, THERE'S SOME CONFUSION ABOUT SALES.
THE, THE GOAL OF MY CLIENT WHO IS THE PROPERTY OWNER BRINGING THIS APPLICATION, IS NOT TO SELL THIS, BUT DEVELOP SOMETHING ON IT THAT SHE CAN LEASE AND COLLECT A RENT CHECK FROM.
YOU HEARD, UH, SOME STUFF ABOUT HISTORIC USE.
THIS IS NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
THIS IS NOT IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT TO EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION THAT THE HOUSES ARE VACANT ON MY CLIENT'S PROPERTY BEGINNING IN APRIL.
THEIR LEASES WERE NOT RENEWED.
UM, WE JUST AGREE WITH STAFF AND WITH THIS COMMISSION AS TO OUR NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH THAT CAME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION LAST MONTH, THAT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS AS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED APPROVING.
UH, AND I WANNA THANK THE COMMISSIONER WHO POINTED OUT THE DISTINCTION THAT TODAY WE'RE OUT HERE TO SOLVE ZONING.
UH, TODAY WE'RE HERE TO JUST SOLVE USE AND WE AGREE THAT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THIS PROPERTY IS COMMERCIAL.
UH, TO THE EXTENT THAT MORE SPECIFICITY IS DESIRED ON OUR PLANS, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, I I HAVE A DUTY OF CONFIDENTIALITY TO MY CLIENT, FIRST OF ALL.
SECOND OF ALL, NEVERTHELESS, I HAVE PROCURED HER PERMISSION FOR, FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE WITHIN 200 FEET, NOT GONNA OPEN IT UP TO ALL 300 PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OVER IN D ONE AND PEOPLE OVER ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT THE NEIGHBORS WHO WITHIN 200 FEET CAN COME TO MY OFFICE AND VIEW AND INSPECT THE PARTICULARS WE HAVE IN PLACE WITH OUR BROKER.
UH, BUT NOT TO PHOTOCOPY AND EMAIL THEM IS THEY ARE A CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS TRANSACTION.
SO FAR, THE ONLY PERSON WHO HAS TAKEN ME UP ON THAT INVITATION IS ROSE HILL, WHO YOU HEARD FROM EARLIER, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WE ARE DIRECTED TO COMMUNICATE WITH BY THE CITY AND THESE PROPOSALS.
AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THE OTHER CONCERNS CAN BE ADDRESSED WITH THE PARTICULAR COMMERCIAL ZONING, BUT WHAT WE'RE HERE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY IS TO AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION ON APPROVAL.
UH, SO NOW WE WILL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS STARTING WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? UH, I, I DO.
AND I HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS I'D LIKE TO SHARE IF THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME AS WELL.
FIRST OF ALL, FOR STAFF, UM, CAN YOU, UM, SHARE WITH ME THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES, UH, THE DISTINCTION AND THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER A C ONE VISA C TWO, UM,
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ZONING? YES.UM, I THINK THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, MR. BATTERS.
UM, SO C TWO IS OUR RETAIL, UH, DISTRICT.
IT DOES ALLOW, UH, MORE, UH, LARGER RETAIL USES.
UH, IT ALLOWS CONVENIENCE STORES, GAS STATIONS, UH, LIQUOR STORES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
C ONE, UM, OH, I FORGOT TO MENTION, C TWO ALSO ALLOWS, UH, SOME MINOR AUTO, UH, DETAILING TYPE, UH, USES AS WELL.
BUT C ONE IS A MORE RESTRICTIVE IN THAT IT DOESN'T ALLOW AUTO USES, IT DOES NOT ALLOW GAS STATION.
IT'S A LIGHTER COMMERCIAL, UH, DESIGNATION THAT, UH, BRINGS SERVICES SUCH AS, UH, DRY CLEANING PICKUP SITES, UH, BARBERSHOPS, BEAUTY SALONS, AND OTHER TYPES OF SMALLER RETAIL AND SMALLER SERVICE BECAUSE IT HAS A BUILDING SIZE LIMITATION OF 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR SMALLER, UH, USES BOTH DISTRICTS ALLOW FOR RESTAURANTS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.
THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION.
UM, UH, I, I DON'T RECALL FROM THE PREVIOUS, UM, PRESENTATION, I THINK A MONTH OR SO AGO WHEN THIS CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WAS THERE EVER A, UM, AN EFFORT TO REQUEST C ONE BY C TWO ZONING WHEN YOU APPEARED BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION? WE CONSIDERED IT, BUT AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM STAFF, YOUR BUILDING SIZE IS LIMITED TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT SARAH MARTINEZ, MY CLIENT, HER PROPERTY AND THE FROST TRUST PROPERTY TOGETHER ARE 2.2 ACRES.
AND SO THE BUILDING SIZE THAT WOULD MAKE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE PROPERTY WOULD NECESSARILY EXCEED THAT.
NOW, I MENTIONED THAT WE'VE EXPLORED SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WITH ZONING, AND ONE OF THOSE IS TO HAVE, IF SARAH MARTINEZ'S PROPERTY WITH C ONE HAVE A SEPARATE BUILDING FOR THINGS LIKE YOU JUST SHARED
SO IT IS A CONVERSATION THAT'S ON THE TABLE, BUT I THINK WE'VE COME A LOT FURTHER THAN WE WERE A MONTH AGO ON AT LEAST BUILDING A CONSENSUS FROM THE STAKEHOLDERS DIRECTLY.
THAT COMMERCIAL USE HERE IS PALATABLE.
AND IF I CAN OFFER, UM, UH, IF I CAN OFFER MR. JACKSON, UM, MR. BATTER JUST, UH, FOOD FOR, FOOD FOR THOUGHT WHEN YOU'RE, UH, DISCUSSING IT, UH, WITH, UH, YOUR CLIENT, IS THAT EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A BUILDING SIZE LIMITATION OF 5,000, THERE'S AN AGGREGATE BUILDING SIZE OF 15,000, WHICH MEANS YOU COULD HAVE THREE SEPARATE 5,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDINGS ON, UH, THE ENTIRE 2.2 ACRES.
SO JUST THAT IS VERY HELPFUL TO KNOW.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
UH, IT'S, IT'S VERY APPARENT TO ME FROM, UH, THE COMMENTS WE'VE HEARD FROM CALLERS, FROM THE LETTERS THAT WE'VE READ, THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE CONSENSUS AMONG THE RESIDENTS, UH, IN SUPPORT OF LIKE RETAIL, LIKE COMMERCIAL, UH, IN THE AREA.
UM, THE OPPOSITION SEEMS TO OCCUR WHEN THE POTENTIAL, THE POSSIBILITY OF, UM, LARGER, MORE COMMERCIAL, UH, MORE HIGH DENSITY COMMERCIAL, UH, VENTURES BEING APPROVED WITHIN THIS FUTURE LAND USE DECISION.
WE HAVE TO MAKE, UH, IT'S THERE THAT ALL OF THE RESIDENTS SEEM TO HAVE, UH, THE CONCERN THAT I'VE HEARD EXPRESSED TODAY.
I'M CONFIDENT THAT, UH, STAFF HAS DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE, UH, IN ARRIVING AT THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE, UH, THIS APPLICATION, UH, AND THAT THE DECISION BEFORE THE, THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION IS ONE OF FUTURE LAND USE BY, UH, ZONING.
UM, I HEARD MENTIONED EARLIER THAT, UH, THE REQUEST FOR C TWO ZONING WAS DENIED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION.
AND I THINK THAT IS ENTIRELY THEIR PURVIEW AND, AND APPROPRIATE THAT THEY MAKE THAT DECISION.
UH, THE DECISION POINT FOR ME IS WHETHER OR NOT, UM, EXPANDING OR CHANGING FROM THE CURRENT LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO A MIXED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA AND AC ACCOMMODATING AND ACCOUNTING FOR THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE AREA.
UH, I, BY APPROVING THIS REQUESTED CHANGE, IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THAT A C TWO OR C ONE ZONING, UH, WOULD BE THE DECISION REACHED BY THE ZONING COMMISSION.
IT WOULD SIMPLY BE, IN MY OPINION, UM,
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ALLOWING THE ZONING COMMISSION TO DO WHAT THE ZONING COMMISSION HAS BEEN CHARTERED AND TASK TO DO.UH, THIS IS NOT A DIFFICULT, UM, DECISION FOR ME.
UH, IT WASN'T AN EASY ONE WHEN I HEARD IT, UM, THE, UH, UH, ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO.
UH, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, PROGRESSING FROM, UH, UH, OR A CHANGE FROM THE, THE CURRENT LOW DENSITY RESIDUE RESIDENTIAL TO A MIXED USE IS NOT INCONSISTENT WITH THE DIRECTION AND THE SPIRIT OF THE TASKS THAT WE HAVE, UH, TODAY IN FRONT OF THIS.
SO I, I, I THANK THE APPLICANT AND ALL OF THE CALLERS AND, UH, I, I APPRECIATE, UH, THE EFFORTS THAT OUR, UH, THAT STAFF HAS, UH, HAS PUT INTO MAKING THIS RECOMMENDATION.
THIS WILL BE, UM, A DIFFICULT VOTE FOR US.
NO OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU COMMISSIONER CARILLO? OKAY.
UM, UH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT.
I'M, I'M SORRY IF I MISUNDERSTOOD THIS, BUT I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION FROM, UM, MS. HILL WHEN SHE CALLED IN THAT YOU HAD AGREED TO A C ONE.
HOWEVER, HEARING YOUR LATEST COMMENTS, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU STILL WANT C TWO ON MS. MARTINEZ'S PROPERTY AND THE ONE AT, UM, THE, THE CROSS BANK PROPERTY.
AM I, AM I MISUNDERSTANDING THAT? UM, NOT QUITE.
I, AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING, I'M ONLY REPRESENTING SARAH MARTINEZ ON BASICALLY 60% OF THE PROPERTY, AND I HAVE TO WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FROST TRUST DEPARTMENT ON THE OTHER PART AND WHAT THEY WANT.
SO I, I WILL COMMIT THAT I AM OPEN-MINDED TO SEE ONE, SOME OF THE OTHER PROPOSALS WE'VE JUST REALLY INTRODUCED WITH OUR 200 FOOT NEIGHBORS, OUR DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON, ON VARIOUS SPECIFIC USES THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED AGAINST CHIEF AMONG THEM BEING THE GAS STATION.
UM, UH, I, I DO NEED TO HEAR FROM FROST BANK ON WHAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO DO AND WORKING, YOU KNOW, MAY, MAYBE DEEDED RESTRICTION IS THE ANSWER THEY WANT UNDER A C TWO, MAYBE A C ONE WITH NO DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, IS THE ANSWER.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF COMPONENTS TO, UH, A TRANSACTION LIKE THIS, INCLUDING YOUR FINANCING.
AND SO I I, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT CONFUSED, BUT THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE ARE OPEN TO IT.
WE'VE, WE'VE GOTTA EXPLORE THE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS HERE TO, UH, TO COMMIT TO THAT AS OPPOSED TO ANY OF THE OTHER, UH, DEAL POINTS WE'VE OFFERED IN COMPROMISE.
SO I, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND I CHARGE AS, AS A PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHAT WE ARE TASKED AS THESE ITEMS COME BEFORE US.
HOWEVER, AT THE LAST MEETING, I MEAN, I HAD REQUESTED THAT BE DELAYED OR POSTPONED, EXCUSE ME, SO THAT THERE COULD BE FURTHER DISCUSSION.
AND I FEEL LIKE ALTHOUGH THERE WAS DISCUSSION, IT MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, ONE-SIDED IN THAT THE, UM, NEIGHBORS AND STAKEHOLDERS FELT THAT THEY WERE MAKING HEADWAY, BUT PERHAPS THEY ARE NOT.
AND I, I REALLY WANT THIS TO GO FORWARD WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS FROM COMMISSIONER JACKSON THAT I TOO HEARD THE PORT FOR LIGHT COMMERCIAL, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE MISLED.
CAN I CAN CLARIFY? WELL, I CAN CLARIFY FOR YOU.
ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS YOU MENTIONED WANTING THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHO IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BECAUSE I'VE GONE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOUR TIMES NOW, AND I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
I'M ALSO CONTINUING DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE WITHIN 200 FEET.
I HAVE PROBABLY HAD 30 TO 40 PHONE CALLS WITH PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET.
I'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF BEING A SECRET AGENT OF A GAS STATION.
I'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF SECRETLY PLANNING TO PUT A FIRE RANGE THERE.
SIR, IF I CAN JUST FINISH MY COMMENTS.
UM, THERE'S LOTS OF OTHER COMMISSIONERS THAT I'M SHOW COMMENTS TO.
UM, UM, I, I'M ON THE FENCE ABOUT THIS.
I, I DON'T AGREE THAT THIS WOULD BE AN IDEAL SPOT FOR RESIDENTIAL AS SOME OF THE OTHER CALLERS AND LETTERS HAVE SUGGESTED.
UM, I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE CORNER PROPERTY, THE FROST PROPERTY IS MOST IDEALLY SITUATED, UM, FOR THE COMMERCIAL USE.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM THE REST OF MY COMMISSIONERS BEFORE I MAKE MY DECISION ON THIS, BUT, UM, I, I'M, I'M ON THE FENCE AND I, AGAIN, I, I'LL REITERATE THAT I DON'T WANT THE COMMENT,
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I DON'T WANT THE, UH, STAKEHOLDERS AND NEIGHBORS TO BE MISLED AND, UM, I TOO DON'T, WOULD NOT WANNA LIVE NEXT TO A GAS STATION.UM, SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR THE APPLICATION AND YOUR EFFORTS AND I'LL PASS IT ON TO MY NEXT COMMISSIONER CHAIR.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
UH, AGAIN, I THINK, UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UH, REALLY EXPRESSED A LOT OF THE SAME THOUGHTS THAT I HAVE.
THAT ZONING IS NOT OUR PURVIEW, SO WHAT THE ZONING COMMISSION ULTIMATELY DECIDES TO DO IS UP TO THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID, UH, MODIFY THE PLAN FOR THE FROST PROPERTY, UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE AGAIN, THAT THIS PROPERTY DOES, UH, WOULD SEEM TO BE WELL SUITED FOR MIXED USE.
UM, AND I DO LIKE TO HEAR THAT, THAT THERE WAS SOME PROGRESS MADE AND THAT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SEEMED TO SUPPORT, UH, UH, LOWER DENSITY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, QUESTION FOR STAFF IN, IN THE PLAN FOR GOVERNMENT HILL, IS THERE ANY ALTERNATE LAND USE CATEGORIES KIND OF BETWEEN LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL MIXED USE? THERE IS A LOW DENSITY MIXED USE CATEGORY THAT IS IN BETWEEN THAT, UH, THE MOST INTENSE, UH, MULTIFAMILY WOULD BE MF 18 AS A CONSISTENT LAND USE CATEGORY.
AND THE MOST INTENSE, UH, COMMERCIAL IS C ONE.
UH, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S IN BETWEEN, UH, THE CURRENT, UH, LO THE CURRENT LOAD DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE REQUESTED MIXED USE.
SO I THINK I WOULD FAVOR THAT, UM, TO, TO REALLY KIND OF, TO MOLLIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, LOAD DENSITY MIXED USE.
SO I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS, BUT IF WE WERE TO PRESENT THAT AS AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I, I HAVE PROBLEMS WITH YOU HEARING, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
MY CONCERN, I, IT WAS SUCH AN IMPASSIONED, UH, RESPONSE FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT THEY REALLY INDICATE THAT THIS IS THE KIND OF, UH, BUSINESSES THAT THEY COULD WALK TO AS OPPOSED TO, UH, HAVING LIKE A GAS STATION WHERE CARS COME IN AND OUT AND DON'T BELONG TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THIS IS A TOUGH, UH, UH, LINE USE DECISION THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE, BUT I LIKE WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER JOHNSON AND PROPHET HAVE STATED SO FAR.
SO I, I'LL BE WAITING TO MAKE THAT FINAL DECISION.
UM, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY REAL QUESTIONS.
MOST OF MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
MOST OF MY THOUGHTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE REALLY DIFFICULT ONES AND IT'S MADE MORE DIFFICULT BY THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE ARGUMENTS AND MOST OF THE INPUT FROM, FROM EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, FROM THE CITIZENS AND ALSO FROM THE APPLICANT.
AND A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION IS REVOLVED AROUND ZONING.
AND IT REALLY KIND OF DISTORTS OUR, OUR VISION AND IT DISTORTS OUR, UH, OUR VIEWPOINT OF THE PROJECT.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WHILE I, YOU KNOW, MIGHT AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE C TWO ISN'T THE BEST USE, BUT THE C TWO'S ALREADY BEEN DENIED, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IS THE PROPERTY A A GOOD LOCATION FOR MIXED USE OR NOT.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT'S GOOD FOR MIXED USE.
MAYBE IT'S GOOD FOR THE LOW DENSITY OF MIXED USE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A FUNCTION OF THE ZONING.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THEREIN LIES PROBABLY THE STICKINESS OF THIS ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE IF WE WERE TO APPROVE THIS, EVERYBODY'S BLAMING US FOR APPROVING A C TWO, AND THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE CASE, AND THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THAT LEADS ME TO ONE, AND I THINK STAFF ALREADY ANSWERED THIS EARLIER, UH, DURING THIS ITEM, UM, DOES C ONE ZONING FIT IN WITH THE MIXED USE THAT'S REQUESTED? YES, IT DOES.
SO, UM, ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A STICKY ONE.
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I'M STILL A LITTLE ON THE FENCE AND I GUESS IT'S TIME TO MAKE A DECISION, SO I'LL BE, UH, I'LL BE DOING THAT HERE SHORTLY.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
UM, I THINK THIS RESPECTFULLY, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF MOVING AN ITEM, UM, PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
UM, I THINK WE'VE SEEN THIS PROBABLY TWO OR THREE TIMES.
UM, AND, AND SO IT WASN'T IMPERFECT PROCESS, BUT I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SEE SOME GOOD EFFORT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT FORTH, UM, AFTER SOME, SOME DIRECTION.
UM, BUT I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE DID, UM, DID CAUSE SOME PROBABLY REACTIONS THAT PROBABLY COULD HAVE BEEN TAKEN CARE OF EARLY ON IF WE HAD THE APPROPRIATE, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH INITIALLY.
UM, I ECHO A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN SAID BY MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, AND I DO NEED SOME SORT OF CLARITY ON A COMMISSIONER PROFITS POINT ON, UM, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LOW DENSITY MIXED USE VERSUS MIXED USE, UH, WOULD RESTRICT OR ALLOW.
SO THE MIXED USE CATEGORY ALLOWS, UM, FOR C TWO TO BE A CONSISTENT, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
AND IT ALSO ALLOWS, UH, UP TO MF 50 TO BE A CONSISTENT, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE INTENSE THAN THE LOW DENSITY MIXED USE, WHICH, UH, TAPS OUT AT M F 18 AND UH, C ONE.
SO IT'S JUST A, A, A VARIATION OF, OF INTENSITY.
AND FOR THE APPLICANT, UM, WOULD, WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO LOW DENSITY MIXED USE? UH, AGAIN, I, IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT STAFF HAS CURRENTLY RECOMMENDED? WELL, IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT LAND USE CATEGORY.
UH, BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT EITHER ONE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE IF STAFF IS, UH, RECOMMENDS THE REQUESTED MIXED USE, WHICH IS MORE INTENSE AND LOW DENSITY MIXED USE IT, UM, THEN YOU CAN SURMISE THAT WE WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF LOW DENSITY MIXED USE.
BUT WHAT HAS CURRENTLY BEEN RECOMMENDED WAS THE REGULAR TIER OF MIXED USE.
WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING REQUESTED AND CONSIDERED BY PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE, IS MIXED USE CATEGORY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED AND THAT'S WHAT THE COMMISSION IS CONSIDERING.
BUT MY, MY CLARIFICATION, UH, FOR THE APPLICANT IS I'M, I'M SENSING SOME UNEASINESS EVEN FROM THE COMMISSION RIGHT NOW ON, ON THAT FULL CATEGORY.
AND, AND I DON'T MEAN TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE, BUT ME PERSONALLY, THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW I FEEL.
AND SO I'M, I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M POSING THE QUESTION IF THE APPLICANT WOULD RECONSIDER LOAD DENSITY MIXED USE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME CONSIDERING THE PROPOSAL FROM STAFF AS IT IS, AND THIS IS, THIS IS AN OFF THE CUFF IF IT'S STRAYING FROM WHAT HAS BEEN OUTLINED ALREADY BY, UH, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
UH, AND THEN MY FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, IF WE WERE TO, UH, CONTINUE ALONG AND APPROVE, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO INCLUDE SOME RESTRICTIONS? THERE ARE NO, OR RESTRICTIONS THAT, UM, ARE ALLOWED WITH A RECOMMENDATION? YOU EITHER, YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.
IF, UM, YOU WANT TO LOOK AT LOW DENSITY MIXED USE INSTEAD, THEN IT IS A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR LOW DENSITY MIXED USE.
THAT WOULD BE ONE OPTION, OR AN OPTION WOULD BE JUST LOOKING AT THE REQUEST FOR MIXED USE.
IT'S EITHER A RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL OR A RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, BUT THOSE ARE SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN, IN YOUR MOTION.
BUT THERE ARE NO CONDITIONS THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADD TO THAT RECOMMENDATION.
SO CONDITIONS ARE ONLY ALLOWED BY ZONING? THAT'S CORRECT.
IF THE ZONING DISTRICT CALLS FOR CONDITIONS.
UM, STAFF, WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE? I'M, I'M, I, BY ALL MEAN BY NO MEANS AM AM TRYING TO DICTATE WHAT ZONING COMMISSION, UM, IS, IS TRYING TO, ONCE THEY RECEIVE THIS, I'M NOT TRYING TO DICTATE WHAT THEIR DECISION IS, BUT WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE FOR, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION TO OFFER SOME SORT OF COMMENTS ON WHERE WE WERE LEANING? COMMENTS ARE GREAT FOR THE RECORD, UM, AS, AND WE CAN PASS THOSE ALONG TO CITY COUNCIL.
TO CITY COUNCIL IS THE ULTIMATE DECISION.
AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF THE, THE COMMISSION IF, IF WE DO WANNA OFFER SOME COMMENTS OR, UM, OUR FEELINGS, UM, TO ZONING, COMMISSION TO CONSIDER, OR
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JUST SO THAT THEY KNOW KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LEAKING.I THINK I'VE HEARD KIND OF, UM, WE WERE IN FAVOR OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON RESTRICTING SOME LARGER RETAIL, THE GAS STATIONS, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO HEAR THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND FEEDBACK ON THAT.
UH, SO JUST TO CLARIFY ONE MORE TIME, STAFF, IF THE ZONING GETS A C TWO, ARE THEY ABLE TO PUT RESTRICTIONS ON A C TWO AND SAY, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN THINGS ARE ALLOWED OR MAYBE CERTAIN THINGS ARE NOT ALLOWED OR THAT HAVE TO BE DONE? UH, THROUGH DEEDED RESTRICTIONS? IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE THROUGH DEEDED RESTRICTIONS.
YOU CAN'T USE, UH, YOU CAN'T RESTRICT OUT USES WHEN YOU'RE REZONING TO A STRAIGHT DISTRICT.
YOU JUST TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE YEAR FOR THE EAST SIDE PLAN? YOU SAID IT WAS MAYBE PHASE THREE OR PHASE FOUR? WHAT, I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING LIKE, UH, NEXT YEAR? ARE WE TALKING FIVE YEARS FROM NOW? I, I, WELL, I'M NOT SURE THE CURRENT TIMELINE GIVEN C OVID 19, UH, BUT I WANNA SAY IT'S ON OR AROUND PHASE THREE OR PHASE FOUR.
THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON PHASE TWO.
UH, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TIMELINE IS FOR THAT.
BUT UNTIL THEN, THIS PLAN IS IN PLACE, UM, AND HAS TO GO THROUGH THE NORMAL, UH, AMENDMENT PROCEDURES UNTIL A NEW PLAN IS ADOPTED.
AND SO DID THE PLANS, UH, WE HEARD ABOUT PREVIOUS, UH, LAND USAGE PLANS FOR THIS AREA.
DID ANY OF THOSE INCLUDE COMMERCIAL USES FOR THIS, FOR THESE SPECIFIC LOTS, THIS SPECIFIC CORNER? WAS IT ALL JUST INTENDED TO DO LOW DENSITY? THE GOVERNMENT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WAS UPDATED IN 2010.
UM, THIS WAS, THIS AREA WASN'T UPDATED AND, AND PROBABLY BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS CURRENTLY THERE, AND PROBABLY AT THE TIME WALTERS HAD NOT BEEN WIDE YET.
UH, SO IT, IT, THOSE WERE THE CIRCUMSTANCES AT THE TIME, AND THAT'S HOW THIS BECAME LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
SO THE, THE ROADWORK AND IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENED AFTER THE PLAN? UH, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE, BUT, UH, IT WOULD'VE HAPPENED WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, LIKE LOAD DENSITY, MIXED USE DOES HAVE C ONE AND SOME MULTIFAMILY, AS DOES MIXED USE.
UM, SO IT SOUNDS, SO I AGREE WITH MY COMMISSIONERS, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
THIS IS KIND OF A TOUGH ONE, BUT, UM, I THINK WE CAN FIND SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY OR MOST PEOPLE CAN AGREE WITH.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE BIG CONCERN IS WITH C TWO USES, BUT, UH, WE GO BACK TO, WE ARE LOOKING AT LAND USAGE CATEGORIES AND WHERE THIS, UH, WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED.
AND, UM, AT THAT POINT IN TIME REVIEWING MY QUESTIONS WERE ANSWERED BECAUSE THEY WERE MAINLY ASKED BY MY VALID QUEST COMMISSIONERS.
SO THINK WE HAD A GOOD SET OF QUESTIONS AND NOW IT IS TIME TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS, UH, WHICH IS FORCED, YOU KNOW, TO APPROVE, UH, TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO RECOMMEND, UH, DENIAL OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO RECOMMEND, UH, DENIAL FOR THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST WITH, UH, LOW DENSITY MIXED USE, ALTER ALTERNATIVE, UH, VERSUS ALSO CONTINUANCES.
BUT I THINK WE'VE ALREADY USED ONE, SO MIGHT BE LIMITED ON THAT.
UM, AT THAT POINT, IT'S TIME TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER PROPHET I MOVE DENIAL WITH ALTERNATIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR LOW DENSITY MIXED USE TO JACKSON SECONDS.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, UH, TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST OF MIXED USE WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR LOW DENSITY MIXED USE STAFF.
CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER JACKSON? YES.
COMMISSIONER MICHAEL GARCIA? YES.
MAKE SURE TO HIT ON MUTE, MA'AM.
I WAS GONNA SAY MOTION PASSES SEVEN TO ZERO.
AND IF THERE'S ANYBODY, UH, COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ BROUGHT UP AN INTERESTING POINT, WHICH IS, UH, IS PROVIDING COMMENTS, UH, HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT? DO WE SEND, DO WE SEND THEM INTO TO USE TO STAFF OR?
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UM, I WOULD SAY IF YOU WANTED TO JUST ENTER COMMENTS ABOUT THE CASE BEFORE FULLY CLOSING IT OUT, YOU COULD DO THAT RIGHT NOW.DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS THEY WOULD LIKE TO ENTER? I, NO, SIR.
I, I THINK THAT JUST TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE, UM, THAT, UH, WE ARE SOMEWHAT IN FAVOR OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS WE RECEIVED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE LARGER RETAIL AND GAS STATIONS.
AND YOU CAN, UH, ATTRIBUTE THIS TO ME IF, IF YOU NEED TO.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE ALL LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE C ONE VERSUS C TWO.
FOR THE REST OF THANK YOU, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR THIS ONE.
UH, I THINK WE DID WELL ON THIS ONE.
I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY AND STILL PROVIDE SOME, UM, SOME OF WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS ASKING FOR.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM.
IS THAT CORRECT MR. CHAIR? IF I CAN PROVIDE JUST A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS.
I THINK THIS WAS ALSO A REALLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF, UM, HOW IMPORTANT COMMUNITY FEEDBACK WAS.
UM, BECAUSE ME PERSONALLY, UM, WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS ITEM, I THINK TWO TIMES AGO, THE INITIAL TIME, UM, IT'S RIGHT OFF OF THE HIGHWAY, IT'S OFF OF A MAIN STREET.
AND SO I INITIALLY WAS IN FAVOR AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD AREA FOR MIXED USE AND FOR, UM, ACTUALLY THE GAS STATION THAT WE SAW INITIALLY.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT, UM, THE FREQUENT COMMENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF COMMENTS THAT WE GOT FROM THE RESIDENTS, UM, I KNOW THAT THEY HELPED ME SEE SOMETHING ELSE, UM, AND PERSUADED ME OTHERWISE.
SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY A GOOD EXAMPLE OF, OF HOW IMPORTANT THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK IS.
I AGREE THERE, THERE'S BEEN TIMES WHEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE CASES THEY LOOK PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT THEN THE COMMUNITY PROVIDES INPUT AND, UH, IT, IT REVEALS CERTAIN THINGS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE ALWAYS PUSH TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD COMMUNITY INPUT.
SO, UM, HOW MUCH PUBLIC COMMENT DO WE HAVE ON ITEM NUMBER 21? ANY PHONE CALLS, LETTERS? SO FOR THAT NATURE, I HAVE, IS IT, I HAVE ABOUT FIVE LETTERS TO READ AND THEY'RE SHORT.
DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK? YEAH, WE COULD TAKE A SHORT BREAK, PLEASE.
OKAY, LET'S TAKE A BREAK TILL, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK? FOUR TEN FOUR.
SO DO YOU WANNA GO TO FOUR 15? I WOULD, I WOULD JUST DO FOUR 10 IF WE COULD.
LET'S, UH, TAKE A BREAK UNTIL FOUR 15 ABOUT, I MEAN, FOUR 10.
UH, LET'S CALL THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING BACK TO ORDER.
UH, TAKE A LITTLE BREAK AND NOW WE'RE BACK.
[21. 20-4058 PLAN AMENDMENT CASE PA-2020-11600033 (Council District 3): A request by Nicholas Harris, representative, for approval of a Resolution to amend the Eastern Triangle Community Plan, a component of the Comprehensive Master Plan for the City, by changing the future land use from “Low Density Residential" to "Community Commercial" on Lot P-10 and P-11, NCB 10777, located at 4619 Sinclair Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Zoning Case Z-2020-10700142) (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department)]
NOW IF STAFF CAN PRESENT ITEM NUMBER 21.THIS IS ITEM 21, A REQUEST TO AMEND THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN FROM LOW DENSITY TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AT 46 19 SINCLAIR ROAD.
THE PROPOSED PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT INTO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL AREA.
THIS AREA'S PRIMARILY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL IS UNCHARACTERISTIC OF THE AREA, AND IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE SOUTH OF SINCLAIR ROAD ALONG R RIGSBY AVENUE, EVEN ALONG SOUTH WW WHITE, WHICH IS A PRIMARY ARTERIAL.
THE ESTABLISHED LAND USE DESIGNATION IS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, WHICH IS LESS INTENSE THAN THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY.
COMMERCIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL.
THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, EIGHT WERE RECEIVED OPPOSED, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM JUPE MANOR OR THE LOWER SOUTHEAST SIDE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND THERE WAS ONE LETTER RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA.
MR. CHAIR Q, IS THE APPLICANT AVAILABLE? YES, THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE THE LINE.
UH, PLEASE PRESENT YOUR, UH, YOUR PROJECT TO THE COMMISSION.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
I RESIDE AT 4 0 0 7 DUN OAK DRIVE, AREA CODE 7 8 2 2 3.
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OF THE PROPOSED PROJECT.UH, WHEN WE, UH, FIRST DEVELOPED THIS PLAN AMENDMENT, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ADJACENT, UH, AREAS THAT WERE, I GUESS, TO THE WESTERN PART OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA BETWEEN SINCLAIR ROAD, WHICH IS A MAJOR ARTERIAL, A STREET BETWEEN LUKE FOUR 10 AND I GUESS TO SOUTH W WHITE.
AND THEN, UM, LOOKING AT THAT AND LOOKING AT THE PREVIOUS TRIANGLE, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS, UH, DEVELOPED MANY YEARS AGO, UH, TO LOOK AT, UH, HOW THIS AREA, UH, THIS WILL BE PROJECTED TO ALLOW CERTAIN BUSINESSES IN THE FUTURE IF PERMISSIBLE.
AND OF COURSE, LOOKING AT THAT AREA, UH, IT WAS NOTED THAT A LOT OF THE ADJACENT LOTS THAT FRONT SOUTH W WHITE WERE ALLOWED TO BE ZONED TO C ONE AND C TWO.
AND THEN THESE PARTICULAR LOTS, UH, THERE'S ONE LOT, I GUESS TO THE WEST THAT'S STILL ZONE R FIVE, AND OF COURSE THE TWO LOTS WE'RE WORKING ON.
AND THEN THERE'S A THIRD LOT ADJACENT TO THIS ONE TOO, BUT WE'RE NOT TOUCHING THAT ONE AT ALL BECAUSE CURRENTLY IT'S BEEN UTILIZED AS WHAT WE CALL AN OVERHEAD TRANSMISSION.
UM, FOR C P S, MEANING, I GUESS YOU GOT THE HIGH TRANSMISSION LINES, SO THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
THEN IF YOU GO, I GUESS SIX MORE LOTS TO THE EAST TOWARDS FOUR 10, THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER, UH, I THINK RESIDED AT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
IF YOU GO TO THE REAR WITH MOST OF THE, I GUESS THE NEGATIVE REMARKS CAME THROUGH, WHICH IS PAULA STREET, OUR GOAL AT THE BEGINNING, UH, WHEN WE SUBMITTED OUR APPLICATION, WE REALIZED THAT A LOT OF THE I ONE I TWO THAT EXISTS ON SINCLAIR ROAD IS ON THE OPPOSITE END OF THE STREET.
ON THIS PARTICULAR END, YOU HAVE MIXED USES, SO OF COURSE, RESIDENTIAL.
AND THEN OF COURSE, TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTIES, WHICH IS PAULA STREET, IS ALSO THE RESIDENTIAL.
THERE IS NO, UH, WHAT WE CALL INGRESS OR EGRESS OF A LOCAL STREET THAT INTERSECTS INTO P*****K STREET.
YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY ENTER IT, I GUESS, FURTHER UP OFF OF W W Y.
SO OUR GOAL ORIGINALLY WAS, UH, TO TRY FOR C TWO, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE PLAN AND LOOKING AT THE TRIANGLE ASPECTS, AND THEN LOOKING AT, UH, THE BASE ZONING THAT WAS THERE, UH, WAS DECIDED THAT WE WOULD JUST GO FOR THE MINIMUM, WHICH IS THE C ONE, AND WE HAD THE MOTION AMENDED.
HOWEVER, WHEN WE DID THAT MOTION, WE DIDN'T REALLY REALIZE WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH OTHER THAN A C ONE DESIGNATION, WHAT WOULD ACTUALLY FIT INTO A C ONE DESIGNATION.
SO IN DOING THAT, IN HINDSIGHT, WE JUST DECIDED TO JUST GO AHEAD AND LIST THE USES OF MULTI-TENANT.
BUT AFTER I LOOKING AT SOME OF THE NEGATIVE REMARKS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO US, UH, LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AND EARLY THIS MORNING, UH, I MET WITH THE OWNERS AND I MET WITH THE DEVELOPER.
AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY WE COULD AMEND THIS RECOMMENDATION TO STILL BE A C ONE, BUT WE WILL JUST LIMIT IT TO WHAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE C ONE DESIGNATION BEING, UH, A SQUARE FOOTAGE IS LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET AND ONE STORY.
AND THEN ALL CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE ORIENTED TO THE SINCLAIR ASPECTS OR THE SINCLAIR FRONTAGE.
AND THEN WE'RE WILLING TO ALSO INCORPORATE INTO OUR DEVELOPMENT, UH, SOMETHING EITHER BETWEEN A 50 TO A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER ZONE, UH, A LACK OF NO CONSTRUCTION TO OCCUR TO THE REAR THAT WOULD IMPACT THE FACING RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS PARTICULAR LOTS.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO INCORPORATE WHAT WE CALL THE BLACK SKY ORDINANCE, MEANING THAT WE'LL FACILITATE LIGHTING, UH, THAT WILL BE GEARED TOWARDS THE AREA THAT IT NEEDS TO ENCOMPASS RATHER THAN THE DECENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND THEN INTO THE SKY, OF COURSE.
AND THIS IS ALSO MILITARY OVERLAY ZONE.
AND THEN I WAS TALKING TO THE DEVELOPER AGAIN THIS MORNING TOO.
WE, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO, BUT WE ARE GONNA AMEND IT THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS OR CRITERIA THAT NORMALLY IS ALLOWED FOR WHAT WE CALL GATEWAY CORRIDOR, WHERE THEY CAN MATCH THE BRICK AND THE AESTHETICS TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS SO THAT IT WON'T BE SOMETHING THAT'S OUTTA PLACE OR UN UN UH, APPROACHABLE TO THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
PLUS, ONCE WE GO BACK TO A SINGLE USE, I THINK THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE, THE WORD THAT WAS OUT, THAT IT WAS GONNA BE A STRIP CENTER.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK ALL THE CONCERNS OR COMPLAINTS WAS THE HOMELESS, THE SECURITY ASPECTS, THE, THE HIGH TRAFFIC VOLUME.
SO, UH, IT WAS DECIDED THAT, UH, WE WOULD BE WILLING TO AMEND THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT TO JUST BE A STANDARD C ONE, THE LOWEST CLASSIFICATION FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, SINGLE USE, UH, OFFICE SLASH UM, BUILDING IN LESS THAN,
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UH, 5,000 SQUARE FEET.ONE STORY TO MEET THOSE CLASSIFICATIONS AND TO STILL BEING, I GUESS, UH, AMBIENCE TO THE DIRECT PLAN OF THE ORIGINAL TRIANGLE, UH, ASPECTS THAT WAS GONNA ALLOW SOME BUSINESS TO EXIST IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
AND THEN TO BE COINCIDING WITH THE HEAVY INDUSTRIAL THAT'S, UH, LOCATED ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, BASICALLY THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN A NUTSHELL.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'LL BE, I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM FOR THE OWNERS.
UH, WE'LL GO ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
F YES, THERE'S A FEW LETTERS TO READ AND I WILL START WITH ONE FROM DAVID GONZALEZ AT 46 26 PAULA DRIVE.
THIS EMAIL IS IN REGARDS TO PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST 33.
PAULA DRIVE MY PROPERTIES ABUT THE PARCELS THAT ARE REQUESTING THE ZONE CHANGE FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THIS REQUEST FOR THE REASONS EXPLAINED AND I HOPE WILL BE CONSIDERED TO KEEP THE CURRENT ZONING OF LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
CURRENTLY, ALL PROPERTIES ALONG THE NORTH SIDE OF SINCLAIR ROAD BETWEEN WW WHITE AND LOOP FOUR 10 ARE ALL CURRENTLY PLOTTED AS BASE RATE LOT SINGLE FAMILY OR VACANT LOTS.
THE COMMERCIAL LOTS ARE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET.
I PURCHASED MY PROPERTY AND I HAVE RESIDED IN MY HOME SINCE 1998.
I RAISED MY THREE DAUGHTERS AS A SINGLE FATHER, AND I WORKED HARD TO PUT THEM THROUGH COLLEGE WITHOUT THE EXPENSE OF THEM LIVING ON CAMPUS BECAUSE I HAVE MY HOME AVAILABLE TO THEM.
MY PLAN FOR THE FUTURE IS TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY TO MY DAUGHTERS, HOPING TO CONTINUE THE QUIET AND SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD ENVIRONMENT WE CURRENTLY LIVE IN FOR THEM.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I PURCHASED THE PROPERTY WAS BECAUSE OF THE NICE, QUIET, RURAL SETTING.
I AM NEAR RETIREMENT NOW AND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO ENJOYING THIS QUIET RURAL SETTING IN THE FUTURE.
CHANGING THE CURRENT ZONING STATUS TO COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ZONING AND CONSTRUCTING A STRIP MALL WITH WILL CHANGE THIS COMPLETELY.
THIS WILL CREATE ISSUES SUCH AS NOISE DAY AND NIGHT, EXTRA LIGHTING THAT WILL EXPOSE AND PROVIDE UNINVITED ACCESS TO THE REAR OF MY PROPERTY AND MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTIES FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR BURGLARIES.
THESE ARE ALL MAJOR CONCERNS THAT I FEAR WOULD DRIVE MY FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS AWAY FROM THE AREA.
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS WITH THE REZONING AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF A STRIP MALL ARE THE POSSIBLE FACTORS OF INCREASED HOMELESS POPULATION, WHICH BRINGS A SAFETY ISSUE WITH THE ELEVATION OF CRIME RATE AND OTHER UNPLEASANT ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
THERE IS AN EXISTING CONCRETE DRAINAGE CHANNEL LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 750 FEET AWAY FROM THESE PROPOSED ZONE CHANGE PROPERTIES ON SINCLAIR AT THE INTERSECTION OF TILLY DRIVE.
AS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, MY DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT SEES FIRSTHAND THE DIFFERENT ISSUES INVOLVED WITH STRIP MALLS AND DRAINAGE CHANNELS WHEN THEY ARE LOCATED WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY OF EACH OTHER.
LEONARD AND CHERYL, JINGLE WOOD AT 46 36.
PAULA NOT IN FAVOR TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT.
NOISE LEVEL WILL BE TRAFFIC LEVEL.
I LIKE LIVING IN PEACE AND QUIET, NOT IN FAVOR OPPOSED.
AND THEN WENDY HERNANDEZ, 46 30, PAULA SENT AN EMAIL TO THE CASE MANAGER AND IS OPPOSED ALAN OAK O AT 3 0 0 4 TO BE DRIVE.
I FEEL LIKE IT WILL NOT BENEFIT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN FINALLY, THIS ONE IS FROM ERIC.
WE ARE, WE IN 4 7 2 2 PAULA DRIVE ARE IN OPPOSITION IN THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL BEHIND OUR HOME.
PLEASE KEEP COMMERCIAL IN FRONT OF THAT LOT AND LEAVE RESIDENTIAL BEHIND US.
MANY RESIDENTIAL HOMES ARE ALREADY THERE TOO.
UH, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT, UH, GETS A CHANCE TO REBUT.
DO YOU HAVE ANY, WELL, AGAIN, JUST REINSTATING THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT AMENDMENT AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD DO THAT.
DO WE DO THAT BEFORE THE ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT TUESDAY? DO WE EVADE OR DELAY THIS REQUEST UNTIL AFTER THAT MEETING? BUT
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I HAD MADE CONTACT WITH, UH, ALL THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT ARE ABUTTED TO THEIR, AND THEY ALL SAID THEY WILL RESPOND BY THIS WEEK BECAUSE THEIR NOTIFICATIONS JUST LIKE MINE CAME FRIDAY.UM, BUT THAT WAS ALL GEARED FOR NEXT TUESDAY'S MEETING, NOT TODAY.
SO I WENT OUT AND KIND OF, KIND OF ASKED THE AREA THIS MORNING MYSELF.
UH, I JUST DIDN'T ADDRESS THE, THE NEGATIVITY OR THE CONCERNS FROM THE PAULA STREET ASPECTS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHY I FIGURED AND AFTER HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH THE OWNERS AND THE DEVELOPER THAT, UH, WE FEEL WE NEED TO AMEND IT TO, UH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, TAKE OUT THAT BUZZ WORD STRIP CENTER BECAUSE IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT DRIVES THE HIGHER TRAFFIC, THE HOMELESSNESS, THE CONGESTION.
AND SO JUST TRY TO BE LIKE ALL THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS THAT ARE THERE THAT EXIST NOW, AND JUST DO IT AS A SINGLE STORY, LESS THAN 5,000, UH, SINGLE USER AND, AND JUST, UH, REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY.
BUT AGAIN, I GUESS, UH, NOTIFICATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN AND I THINK ONLY OUT THE ONES THAT WERE THERE, THREE OR I THINK RIGHT IN ADJACENT OR IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THE FRONTAGE IS ON SINCLAIR.
I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT ADDRESS WAS ON THAT FOURTH ONE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WITHIN THE SAME 200 FOOT RADIUS OR MAYBE IT WAS ACROSS THE STREET FROM PAULA.
AND, UH, OUR GOAL IS TO AT LEAST GO BACK AND TELL THE, UH, THE INDIVIDUALS FROM HOLLOW STREET, UH, THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE A STRIP CENTER.
IT'S GONNA BE WHAT WE CALL JUST A ONE DEVELOPMENT TO MATCH THE OTHERS.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, BRING OUT THAT WE ARE GONNA GO TO ADDITIONAL ROUTE OF, UM, DOING WHAT WE CALL THE DARK SKY ONE THAT'S CREATE A BUFFER ZONE THAT COULD CREATE THAT KIND OF A, A NO BUILD ZONE BETWEEN THE, 'CAUSE WE GOT LIKE ALMOST, UH, ALMOST ABOUT 250 FOOT OF, UH, LINEAR, UH, I GUESS TOWARDS THE REAR.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA KICK UP ALL THAT SPACE.
WE'RE JUST GONNA INCORPORATE THE FRONT OF IT THAT FACES AND CLEAR AND THAT, AND THAT'LL BE IT, UH, PRETTY MUCH IN A NUTSHELL.
AND THEN AGAIN, JUST, UH, ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVES IN THE RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA.
UH, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, I'M PRETTY, UM, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE HAVE PRETTY FOR US, AND THAT'S PROBABLY PART OF OUR PRESENTATION ALSO.
UH, NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO COMMISSIONER QUESTIONS AND WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER JACKSON.
UH, MR. HARRIS, I, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND IT IS REFRESHING TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED, UH, AND ATTENTIVE TO THE CONCERNS OF SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS AND ARE WILLING TO, UH, UH, TO REASSESS YOUR PLANS.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED, HOWEVER, ARE, ARE YOU, UH, IS IT YOUR INTENT OR YOUR DESIRE THAT THIS COMMISSION NOT CONSIDER YOUR APPLICATION AS CURRENTLY SUBMITTED? UH, AND ARE YOU REQUESTING TIME TO MODIFY YOUR SUBMISSION? AND THAT'S, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
CAN I DO THAT AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION AS AN AMENDMENT TO STATE THE FACT THAT YES, WE ARE STILL SEEKING A C ONE, BUT NO, WE'RE NOT DEVELOPING A STRIP CENTER.
WE'RE JUST GONNA GO WITH WHAT THE C ONE TOTALLY ALLOWED, WHICH IS A BUILDING LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET, ONE STORY.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT COULD BE DONE AT THIS LEVEL OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE RESUBMITTED, UH, STAFF? CAN YOU EXPAND UPON THAT? SO, UH, IS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE AMENDMENT, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION.
I THINK HE WAS ASKING, UH, THE APPLICANT IS ASKING ABOUT WAY AHEAD TO MODIFY, UH, HIS, UH, HIS CASE.
SO IF THE INTENT IS TO, UH, CHANGE HIS ZONING REQUEST TO C ONE FOR CONSIDERATION BY ZONING COMMISSION, THEN UM, AN APPROPRIATE AMENDMENT FOR THE PLAN AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO REQUEST NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL INSTEAD OF COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.
SO IF THAT'S THE INTENT THAT WE JUST NEEDED ON THE RECORD FROM THE APPLICANT THAT HE WANTS TO AMEND HIS REQUEST TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL MR. HARRIS, IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH YOUR INTENT? YEAH, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE INTENT BECAUSE THAT WAY WE CAN WORK AROUND THOSE, UH, ISSUES ON CONSTRUCTION AND THEN COACHING ON WHAT WE CALL THERE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL IN THE REAR.
SO THEN I'M, I GUESS THAT THAT'S OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO THE RECORD THAT IT IS AMENDED TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, COMMISSIONER JACKSON, DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL, ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, JUST FOR
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CLARIFICATION, UH, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE NO LONGER CONSIDERING COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL.WE ARE NOW CONSIDERING A REQUEST FOR FUTURE LAND USE, UH, AS, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT JUST SAID, DOES THAT CHANGE STAFF RECOMMENDATION? NO, IT DOES NOT.
UH, CAN YOU SHARE WITH ME THE, UH, UH, THE DISTINCTION THEN BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL THAT DOES NOT APPEAL, UH, STAFF CONCERNS? SO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL STILL ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS OUR COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS SUCH AS NC NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OH ONE OFFICE, NC ONE, LIKE COMMERCIAL.
OUR CONCERN IS THAT, UH, THIS NORTHERN HALF OF THE BLOCK IS, UH, PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL AND UH, WE DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, FURTHER INTRODUCE AND, AND HAVE COMMERCIAL USES ENCROACH INTO THIS BLOCK.
UM, GIVEN THAT MR. HARRIS, UM, IT SEEMS THAT, OR I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS, ARE YOU AMENABLE TO CONSIDERATION OF, UH, EVEN LOWER, UH, FUTURE USE CATEGORIES THAT WOULD RESTRICT, UM, THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL VENTURE PLAN FOR, FOR YOUR, UH, YOUR LAW? I COULD, UH, DISCUSS THAT WITH THE OWNER, BUT, UH, AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE SURROUNDING AREA, SURE, OUR PROPERTIES ARE RESIDENTIAL, THE THIRD PROPERTY, I GUESS GOING TO THE WEST TO THE RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN THERE'S PROBABLY MAYBE SIX LOTS BEFORE YOU FINALLY FIND THE HOUSE THAT HAS A, A PERSON LIVING IN THAT HOUSE GOING TOWARDS ROUTE FOUR 10.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE EAST, THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE LOT THAT'S CONSIDERED RESIDENTIAL, AND THAT'S BETWEEN ALL THE AREAS THAT WERE ZONED OR REZONED TO C ONES AND C TWOS AT BASE W W ROAD, AGAIN, IF YOU GO WITH THE 200 FOOT RADIUS AND YOU LOOK TO THE REAR OF THE DEVELOPMENT, THEN YES, YOU HAVE HEAVY RESIDENTIAL USES.
BUT IN OUR CASE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE TO PUT PROVISIONS IN OUR CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS IN OUR PLANS THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA ENCROACH ON THAT ADJACENT, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA ARE THE CONCERNS.
SO TECHNICALLY, THIS IS MY OPINION, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLANS OR YOU LOOK AT THE LOTS THAT ARE ADJOINING TO OR PARTED TO LOTS THAT WE'RE ASKING, IF THOSE ARE ZONED FOR, LET'S SAY, UM, THE COMMERCIAL, UM, C ONE OR EVEN THE RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL, IT WOULD BE IN LIGHT OF, UH, ALSO FOLLOWING WHAT'S EXISTING TO THE EAST OF THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
THE ONLY THING THAT I THINK WOULD BE OUTSOURCE OR NOT PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE THE LOT THAT'S, I GUESS, DIRECTLY TO THE LEFT.
BUT WHEN WE, WE SEARCHED THAT LOT, UH, IT JUST HAS AN OLD ABANDONED HOUSE AND IT HAS A OUTDOOR STORAGE CONTAINER AND JUST HEAVY BRUSH AREA AND THERE WAS NOBODY WE COULD AT LEAST TALK TO AND SAY, HEY, DO YOU HAVE AN ISSUE OF US KIND OF, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, CONNECTING THE DOTS THAT WE CAN KIND OF GO THIS TWO LOTS BACK INTO THE AREAS THAT ARE ZONED COMMERCIAL OR C ONE OR C TWO THAT FACES WW WHITE ROAD.
AGAIN, I GET IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S RESIDENTIAL GOING TOWARDS, UH, FOUR 10 DOWN CENTRAL ROAD AND THERE'S RESIDENTIAL IN THE REAR, BUT BASED ON OUR, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UH, ASPECTS OR FUTURE PLANS, BUT NOT EVEN GONNA ENCROACH OR BE NEAR THOSE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND AGAIN, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT'S ADJACENT TO HIS TWO LOTS, THERE'S NEVER GONNA BE DEVELOPMENT THERE EITHER.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S BEING UTILIZED AS A, UH, AS A LAND USE FOR CITY PUBLIC SERVICE FOR HAT TRANSMISSION POWER LINE.
SO THERE'S NO WAY WE'RE GONNA EITHER BUILD A HOUSE OR TRY TO DO A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT IN THAT PARTICULAR LOT.
SO WE JUST LEFT IT ALONE AS R FIVE.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, THE, UH, WITHIN THE CASE IT CITES A, UH, AN ASSOCIATED ZONING CASE.
DO WE KNOW HOW THE ZONING COMMISSIONER IS? IT'S NEXT WEEK ISN'T.
AND, AND JUST ONE FINAL, I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR ME
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REPORT, UH, YOUR REQUEST BASED ON RECOMMENDED ADJUDICATION.I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT COMMISSIONER JACKSON, BUT I CAN BARELY HEAR.
UH, IS THIS ANY BETTER OR NO, IT'S JUST A LOT OF STATIC.
YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF STATIC FROM YOUR AUDIO.
I'LL, I HAVE NO FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
UH, YEAH, WE STARTED GETTING A LOT OF STATIC THERE.
UH, NEXT WE'LL HAVE COMMISSIONER CARILLO.
UH, THANK YOU APPLICANT AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACKSON FOR YOUR THOROUGH QUESTIONS.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY REALLY HELPFUL FOR ME TOO.
UM, I, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PER SE.
I, I, I UNDERSTAND STAFF'S CONCERNS, BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE.
UM, THE REST OF THE, UM, PROPERTIES ON SINCLAIR ALL APPEAR TO BE INDUSTRIAL.
I DON'T RECALL WHAT THEY ARE ZONED OR WHAT THEIR LAND USE DESIGNATION IS, BUT IT LOOKS VERY INDUSTRIAL ACROSS THE STREET THERE TO THE SOUTH ON SINCLAIR.
SO, UM, THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST TO AMEND HIS, UM, APPLICATION TO A LOWER USE OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL STILL, IT SEEMS SUITABLE FOR THAT AREA.
AND, UM, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT AMENDMENT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER PROPHET, UH, THANK YOU MR. HARRIS AND THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY.
AND AGAIN, UH, ECHOING, UM, COMMISSIONER JACKSON'S COMMENTS THAT IT'S GOOD TO HEAR, UH, APPLICANTS ARE AND DEVELOPERS ARE WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, SO THAT MAKES OUR JOB YES, WE, WE TOTALLY AGREE.
I I SHOULD HAVE WORKED ON THIS ISSUE FOR TODAY SINCE LAST WEEK, BUT, UH, I WAS JUST, UM, CAUGHT BY SURPRISE THAT IT WAS DONE TODAY.
I, I THOUGHT THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR NEXT TUESDAY WAS GONNA BE THE BIG HEARING, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS KIND OF GEARING FOR THAT BY WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, WORKING WITH THE, THE PEOPLE THAT HAD THE CONCERNS AND THEN GETTING ALL MY INFORMATION OR, OR AGAIN, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, GET MY DUCKS IN ORDER THAT, UH, WE HAVE A, A GOOD VIABLE PRESENTATION AT NEXT WEEK'S TUESDAY'S MEETING TO STATE, UH, EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND, AND TRYING TO MEET ALL THE STANDARDS OR EVEN HIGHER STANDARDS TO, UH, GET SOME KIND OF A, UM, A BUSINESS IN THAT, THOSE PARTICULAR LOTS.
AND, AND, BUT I APPRECIATE THAT THOUGHT.
REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, ZONING AGAIN, WORKS INDEPENDENTLY AND SO THEY MAY CHOOSE MM-HMM.
BUT I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER CARILLO.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, LOOKING TOWARDS W W Y IS MAINLY COMMERCIAL AND OF COURSE ACROSS THE STREET IS INDUSTRIAL AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT, HAVE A LOT OF VACANT RESIDENTIAL GOING, UH, I GUESS TO THE EAST SINCLAIR.
UM, SO MY CONCERN WAS THE, UH, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, BUT I THINK, UH, UH, IT, IT BEING, UH, RECLASSIFIED AS NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, LIKE, UH, I'M SORRY, NEIGHBORHOOD YEAH.
SO I WAS HOPING THAT I COULD SEE, UH, ANOTHER MAP, UH, TO SEE THE, UH, TRAFFIC THAT, THAT WOULD BE OVERHEAD.
UM, IT, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOUR, THE DEVELOPERS ARE PLANNING TO ACQUIRE MORE LAND TO EITHER SIDE OF THIS PROPERTY.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE TRAFFIC THAT IT WOULD BRING ON TO, UH, ST.
CLAIR AND, UH, WW WHITE, UH, IS IMPORTANT AS TO THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT YOU WERE GOING TO DO.
UH, BUT I'M GLAD YOU'RE TALKING TO THE RESIDENTS AND GETTING SOME FEEDBACK FROM THEM.
BUT, UH, I SEE THE AREA GOING MORE, UH, TOWARDS A, A COMMERCIAL AREA RATHER THAN RESIDENTIAL.
SO, UM, I HOPE THAT'S WHAT THE, UH, COMMUNITY'S TELLING ME.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
DOES THE, THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL FITS WITHIN THE C ONE ZONING HE'S REQUESTING, CORRECT?
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YES, IT DOES.AND A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT DOES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR PROPOSED USE IS.
ALL I KNOW, I KNOW YOU'VE SAID IS IT'S KIND OF A COMMERCIAL USE.
'CAUSE WHATEVER YOU'RE PROPOSING TO DO THERE FIT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION.
WE WOULD, UH, WE ALREADY AGREED UPON THAT THIS MORNING.
I MET WITH THE OWNERS AND THE DEVELOPERS.
AND I TOLD 'EM THE, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
AND BASICALLY TO PLEASE EVERYBODY IN PARTICULAR IS THAT, UH, WE NEED TO DOWNSIZE, UH, YEAH, WE NEED TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO FIT THE AESTHETICS OF THE AREA AND ALSO, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY THAT'S INVOLVED IN, UH, ADDRESS ALL THEIR ISSUES.
AND THAT'S WHY I STATED, UH, WE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY THIS AFTERNOON THAT WE DO WANNA AMEND THAT PLAN TO MEET THOSE, WHAT WE CALL LESSER, UM, RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL CAUSE HIGH DENSITY TRAFFIC THAT WILL CAUSE STRIP CENTER SCENARIO THAT WILL CAUSE ALL THE CONCERNS OF THE BUDDING RESIDENTIAL IN THE REAR.
AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, WE GOT THE WORD ACROSS THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN GONNA BE CLOSE TO THE REAR.
WE HAVE TO, WE'RE GONNA CREATE, UH, WHAT WE CALL A BUFFER ZONE.
WE'RE GONNA CREATE, UH, SECURITY, WE'RE GONNA CREATE DARK SKY ORDINANCE, WE'RE GONNA CREATE, UH, BUILDING ASPECTS THAT FIT THE CRITERIA SAME, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO IN THE GATEWAY CORRIDOR DISTRICTS.
UH, THAT INDEED THE, UH, AESTHETIC AS WELL AS, UH, SERVES THAT PARTICULAR AREA, UH, FOR THE TYPE OF, UH, SCOPE OF BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE GONNA REQUIRE.
UM, YEAH, AND THEN, UH, THAT, THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION, I GUESS THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, UH, JUST TO ECHO WHAT MY, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALREADY SAID, UM, I DON'T REALLY NECESSARILY, AND I MIGHT'VE BEEN A LITTLE ON THE FENCE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, BUT I WAS ALMOST, YOU KNOW, THAT ONE, I WAS STILL ALMOST LIKE, WELL, THE AREA LOOKS LIKE IT'S TRENDING COMMERCIAL, THERE'S ALREADY COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL ON THE SINCLAIR ROAD, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF COMMERCIAL TO THE WEST, YOU KNOW, UM, I DIDN'T SEE IT AS THAT MUCH OF AN ENCROACHMENT ANYWAY, BUT NOW THAT WE'RE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL, UM, IT'S MORE ALONG THE LINES OF THE COMMERCIAL.
IT'S ALREADY, UH, TO THE WEST AND WITHIN THE SAME BLOCK.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT AND UH, UM, I THINK I CAN GET BEHIND THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS WORKING THAT OUT AND GETTING THAT, UH, GETTING THAT CHANGED ON OUR AGENDA TODAY.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ASKED MOST OF MY QUESTIONS ALREADY.
I ALSO FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UH, I AGREE WITH THOSE COMMENTS REGARDING NON NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
UH, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF? DOES THIS PROPERTY, IS THIS UNDER ANY OVERLAY OR CONSERVATION DISTRICTS OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE? IT DOES HAVE AN OVERLAY FOR THE MILITARY LIGHTING OVERLAY.
UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE O THE ONLY OVERLAY.
AND, UH, THE THINGS THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING BUFFERS AND, YOU KNOW, MATCHING, UH, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREAS, STUFF OF THAT NATURE.
WHERE DOES THAT GET, UH, PUT IN WRITING, IF YOU WILL? IS THAT, DOES THAT IN THE ZONING COMMISSION WHERE HE, HE, HE PROPOSED THAT AND THE, AND THE ZONING COMMISSION ACCEPTS IT THOUGH? THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR VOTES AND OR HOW DO YOU, HOW DO WE, HOW DOES THAT GET MANAGED IF YOU WILL? UH, IF, IF EVERYTHING GETS APPROVED AND THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.
SO THE ZONING DISTRICT OF, UH, COMMERCIAL ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICTS REQUIRE MINIMUM BUFFERS ALREADY AND MINIMUM FENCING REQUIREMENTS.
SO THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS BEFORE THEIR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
UM, AS FAR AS ARCHITECTURE, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, UH, REGULATE DURING THAT PROCESS UNLESS IT WAS AN OVERLAY FOR, UM, UH, CERTAIN TYPES OF ARCHITECTURE.
UH, BUT THE, BUT THE MINIMUM DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS RELATED TO BUFFERING AND SENSING WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO ENFORCE.
AND THEN I WAS, I WAS WONDERING, UH, 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP ACROSS THE STREET ON SINCLAIR, UM, THERE, THERE LOOKS TO BE ALMOST INDUSTRIAL USES.
AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, UM, IF THE, I THINK IT'S RIGHT NOW, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE LAND USAGE CATEGORY.
IS THAT ACCURATE FOR WHAT, WHAT'S ACTUALLY BEING DONE THERE? DOES THAT MATCH? SO THE CURRENT USES ON THE PROPERTY ON THAT, ON THE SOUTH PORTION OF THAT BLOCK ARE OUR INDUSTRIAL, BECAUSE THERE WAS PROBABLY THE RESULT
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OF AN OLD ZONING CLASSIFICATION WHEN THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED.THE NEIGHBORHOOD WANTED TO, UH, DEINTENSIFY THAT INDUSTRIAL USES, SO THAT WAY THEY EVENTUALLY, UH, THEY WOULD BECOME NON-CONFORMING AND EVENTUALLY MOVE TO MORE APPROPRIATE AREAS BECAUSE THEY ARE ACROSS THE STREET FROM RESIDENTIAL.
UH, BUT THE, UM, THE EASTERN, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN WHEN IT WAS ADOPTED WAS, UH, ESTABLISHED IN, IN SEVERAL PHASES TO DO THE REZONING.
UH, AND THIS WAS PART OF THE LAST PHASE, BUT NOW THAT IT'S PART OF THE ESSAY TOMORROW PROCESS, UH, TO, UH, WHICH IS CURRENTLY IN PHASE TWO AND THIS AREA IS IN PHASE TWO, UH, THEN THIS AREA WILL BE PART OF THAT PROCESS AND PART OF THAT REZONING INITIATIVE.
SO I, I DO ANTICIPATE THAT IF THE NEW PLAN STILL SHOWS AS, UH, COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL OR, OR SOME TYPE OF COMMERCIAL AND NOT INDUSTRIAL, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT A DOWN ZONING WOULD OCCUR IN THAT AREA TOO.
AND THOSE EXISTING BUSINESSES WOULD JUST BECOME, UH, NON-CONFORMING.
SO AS YOU SAID, UNTIL THEY, UNTIL THEY CHANGED.
THEY WOULD JUST BECOME NON-CONFORMING.
UH, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT? IF NOT, THEN WE WILL HAVE A MOTION PROFIT, A MOTION TO APPROVE.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR MR. PROFIT.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? DO WE HAVE TO CLEAR UP WHAT WE'RE APPROVING? SINCE THE AGENDA READS COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL AND WE'RE NOT APPROVING IT, I WOULD SAY PROVE AS AMENDED TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
SO WAS THAT, WAS THAT AN APPROPRIATE MOTION? UH, YEAH AND IT WAS OFFICIALLY AMENDED INTO THE RECORD, SO WE'LL NOTE THAT IT WAS APPROVAL AS AMENDED.
UH, SO THE MOTION IS FOR APPROVED APPROVAL AS AMENDED TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL.
SO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? UH, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
MOTION FOR COMMISSIONER PROFIT.
SECOND FOR COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ STAFF, PLEASE DO THE ROLL CALL.
DO WE HAVE THANK MINUTES? APPRECIATE IT.
[29. 20-4476 Consideration and Action on the Minutes from July 22, 2020.]
NEXT WE HAVE MEETING MINUTES.WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE BY COMMISSIONER GONZALEZ.
SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER PROPHET, UM, STAFF.
CAN YOU DO THE ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER JACKSON? YES.
UH, MAKE SURE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR.
IS THERE ANY DIRECTOR'S REPORT OR ANY OTHER STAFF UPDATES OR NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT FUTURE WORK SESSIONS, WORKSHOPS, PRESENTATIONS, ET CETERA? OH, THERE WAS A, WE NEEDED TO FOLLOW UP ON OUR WORK SESSION DISCUSSION FROM EARLIER.
UH, OUR NEXT, OUR NEXT MEETING HAS THE, UH, PRESENTATION OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS, UH, PROGRAM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THE BUDGET.
AND, UM, I KNOW THE CHAIR HAD MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING A, AN EXTENDED WORK SESSION, SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT TIME DO YOU WANNA START? SO DO YOU WANT TO START THAT AT ONE 30? 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN STARTING AT 1 45 RECENTLY.
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DOES ANYONE THINK WE NEED TO GO LONGER THAN ONE 30 FOR THAT? HOW LONG IS THE PRESENTATION? WELL, THE PRESENTATION WILL BE PRESENTED DURING THE NORMAL REGULAR WORK SESSION IN WHICH YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKED FOR A RECOMMENDATION.SO THEY WILL BE DOING A PRESENTATION.
THE WORK SESSION WOULD BE JUST FOR, UH, I GUESS, UM, PRELIMINARY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED DURING WORK SESSIONS.
DEFINITELY NOT EARLIER THAN ONE 30.
WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN THE PAST? SEEMS LIKE IN THE PAST WE STARTED THOSE, LIKE AT NOON.
UM, I, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER.
WE DID DO IT AT NOON, BUT WE HAD IT COMBINED WITH ANOTHER ITEM.
IT WAS A SPECIAL MEETING AT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BUILDING.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT.
I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REMEMBER, I REMEMBER IT BEING A LONG PRESENTATION.
IT, IT IS A LONG PRESENTATION THAT HAPPENS IN THE REGULAR MEETING, UH, TO THE LONG, EXCEPT WE CAN, WE CAN START AT, UH, ONE O'CLOCK IF YOU FEEL NECESSARY.
OH, SO THE LONG PRESENTATION IS IN THE ACTUAL REGULAR MEETING? YES.
SO THEN WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING A LONG WORK SESSION? BECAUSE OF THE BUDGET, IF WE'RE GETTING A LONG PRESENTATION IN A REGULAR MEETING? I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.
WHO, WHO WOULD BE ASKING THE QUESTIONS TO? SO, SO I HAD ASKED IF WE COULD HAVE EXTENDED, UH, WORK SESSION, BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN WE HAVE THE BUDGET OR PRESENTATIONS LIKE THAT, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND FROM THE COMMISSIONERS WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE GOT THOSE.
IN ADDITION TO ANY QUESTIONS WE MAY HAVE IN THE, DURING THE COMMENTS GENERAL, UH, FOR THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS, GENERALLY YOU ARE CORRECT.
WE USUALLY SEE THIS, UH, GET A WORKSHOP, A WORK SESSION, WORKSHOP PRESENTATION, LIKE A MEETING OR TWO BEFORE WE ACTUALLY HAD THE FULL HEARING AND VOTE ON IT.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK BECAUSE OF COVID, A LOT OF THAT GOT THROWN OFF.
UM, SO, SO MR. CHAIR OR STAFF? YES.
NO, I WAS JUST SAYING, SO THE IDEA WAS THAT, UH, SINCE WE HAVE THE BIG P D F TO GO THROUGH, UH, FOR THE CITY BUDGET AND THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS ITEMS, IF THERE WAS QUESTIONS WE COULD GET MAYBE SOME OF THAT KNOCKED OUT, UH, DURING WORK SESSION VERSUS DURING THE ACTUAL MEETING, WE COULD DO THAT.
IT WOULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, TO DO THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE THE FULL PRESENTATION DURING THE, UH, ACTUAL MEETING, AND THEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THERE.
THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, IS IF IT'S POSTED, IS THERE A REASON WHY WE CAN'T JUST START OUR WORK SESSION EARLIER, UM, TO ALLOW FOR THE PRESENTATION AND PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW.
SO THE, THE ITEM HAS TO BE OFFICIALLY CONSIDERED DURING THE REGULAR, UH, UH, MEETING.
SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE, THE FORMAL PRESENTATION THEN WITH ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
THE PURPOSE OF THE WORK SESSION WOULD BE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY ALL WE DID WAS JUST COVER ITEMS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA.
WE TOOK ALL THE, THE ENTIRE 15 MINUTES, WE COULD DO A START TIME AT ONE 30 AND USE THAT EXTRA 15 MINUTES IN CASE THERE WAS OTHER, UH, JUST SOME, UH, CLARIFYING QUESTIONS THAT YOU COULD ASK THE BUDGET STAFF AND THE A PUBLIC WORK STAFF BEFORE THE ACTUAL MEETING STARTS.
CHAIR, DO YOU THINK YOU NEED MORE? WE NEED MORE TIME IN WORK SESSION OR ONE 30 BE GOOD? UM, WE COULD DO ONE 30.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO DO MORE.
UM, WHAT STAFF, WHAT, WHAT DOES THE NEXT AGENDA MEETING'S AGENDA LOOK LIKE? IS THERE ANYTHING ON THERE THAT MAYBE WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN A WHILE OR ANY, ANY CASES THAT HAVEN'T? SOMETIMES WE GET THINGS, UH, LIKE THE CERTIFICATE OF DE DETERMINATION.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE DON'T SEE THOSE VERY OFTEN.
THEY DO COME UP, IT'S INAPPROPRIATE, BUT WE DON'T SEE THOSE VERY OFTEN.
SO SOMETIMES WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T SEE VERY OFTEN, UH, IN THE PAST WE, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF QUESTIONS ON IT, UH, TRYING TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT'S REQUIRED AND STUFF OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE ONLY HAVE, UH, ONE PLAN AMENDMENT SCHEDULED THAT DAY.
AND THEN OF COURSE, UH, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL KNOW ABOUT THE PLAQUES, UH, EARLY I GUESS LATER THIS WEEK OR EARLIER NEXT WEEK.
UH, BUT, UM, BUT IT'S NOT AS BIG AGENDA LIKE TODAY.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE, IF YOU KNEW OF ANYTHING COMING DOWN THE WORKS THAT WE'D BE ADDRESSING TO THE OTHER RANDOM THINGS THAT WE DO? SOMETIMES WE SET UP THESE LITTLE UTILITY DISTRICT KIND OF THINGS THAT THE FIRST FEW OF THOSE TOOK A WHILE.
I THINK I'M LOOKING, I THINK ONE PLENTY BECAUSE,
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YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST I REMEMBER LONG PRESENTATIONS, BUT IN GENERAL, I DON'T REMEMBER THE COMMISSION HAVING A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS.THE WHOLE THING IS RATHER MIND NUMBING, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ALL AND PUT THE THING TOGETHER, IT'S, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MANY QUESTIONS.
AND YOU AND KAT, YOU ALREADY SENT US THE, UM, BUDGET.
WE, YOU SENT US A P D F LAST WEEK I THINK, OR THIS WEEK.
SO YOU SHOULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED BUDGET DOCUMENT AS WELL AS THE LINK TO THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET WEBSITE.
UH, IT SOUNDS LIKE ONE THIRTY'S PRETTY GOOD.
UM, UH, LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS AWARE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, APPOINTMENTS ARE OPEN UNTIL THE END OF AUGUST.
UH, THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UH, SEATS THAT ARE, UM, UH, TERMING OUT THAT INCLUDES, UH, COMMISSIONER RIOS FEET COMMISSIONER, PROFIT SEAT, UM, AND COMMISSIONER PECK SEAT.
SO IF, IF ANY OF Y'ALL ARE REAPPLYING, IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY, MAKE SURE TO REAPPLY.
UH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE TWO VACANCIES THAT WE NEED TO FILL AS WELL.
SO WE'RE FILLING A TOTAL OF FIVE, UM, STAFF.
UM, MAY I REQUEST KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT YOUR OUTREACH LOOKS LIKE BETWEEN, UM, CITY STAFF AND, AND POSSIBLY COUNCIL OR HOW THAT'S KIND OF BEING CIRCULATED AND, AND HOW PEOPLE ARE BEING MADE AWARE OF THOSE POSITIONS? UM, SO WE DO, UM, WE, WE EMAIL IT TO ALL OF OUR, AND WE HAVE ALREADY, WE EMAIL IT TO ALL OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS.
A LOT OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS ARE, ARE, UH, REGISTERED THROUGH OUR CONSTANT CONTACT.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE AN EMAIL LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS.
WE ALSO SEND IT TO THE, UH, LOCAL CHAMBERS.
AND, UH, WE'VE DONE ALL OF THAT AS OF, UH, LAST WEEK ONCE THE PRESS RELEASE, UH, WENT OUT.
AND SO, AND THEN IT'LL BE OPEN FOR A, A MONTH TILL THE END OF AUGUST.
AND, UH, WE TYPICALLY GET AT LEAST, UH, APPROXIMATELY 50 APPLICATIONS AT A TIME BASED ON THAT OUTREACH.
AND I KNOW, I KNOW COUNCILMAN PERRY SENT IT OUT IN HIS UPDATE, SO I WOULD THINK THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SENDING IT OUT IN THEIR, UM, EMAILS AND FACEBOOK POSTS.
THAT HELPS TO CONTINUE TO SPREAD THE WORD OUT.
IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY WIDELY CIRCULATED.
I, UH, I SAW IT ON, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD APP THAT OUR, UH, OUR NOW USE AS WELL.
I KNOW COUNCIL HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR DIVERSITY ON BOARDS, THE COMMISSIONS FOR A WHILE, AND, UH, GETTING THE WORD OUT IS KEY TO DO THAT.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR STAFF? NO, THAT'S THE CASE.
I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR, UH, UNDERSTANDING.
I THINK I ONLY MISSED ONE OR TWO MEETINGS, SO SURE.
YOU MISSED THE SHORTEST MEETING EVER CONDUCTED.
UM, I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE TO DO SHORTER THAN THAT WITH ALL OUR, WITH ALL THE READING AND ALL THE NARRATIVES AND EVERYTHING.
IF WE HAVE, UH, NOTHING ELSE, THEN IT IS 4 57 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.