* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] ALL RIGHT, WE'RE LIVE SIR, GO AHEAD. ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JOHN BUSTAMANTE AND I'M THE VICE CHAIR OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT FIVE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION. END OF SESSION. UH, CAN WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STAFF, IF [Roll Call: ] YOU'D PLEASE CONDUCT THE ROLL CALL. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HERE. COMMISSIONER JONES. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? HERE. COMMISSIONER HU? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? HERE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. HERE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? HERE. COMMISSIONER SYS HERE. AND CHAIR BUSANTE? I'M PRESENT. ALRIGHT. UH, QUORUM IS PRESENT SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, PRIOR TO STARTING WITH OUR ITEMS, I WOULD LIKE OUR STAFF TO REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT. STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REVIEW THAT FORMAT, RIGHT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF C OVID 19. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR AND RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSB OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 1 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3 TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES. PLEASE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING. STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES AND FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT, UH, STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED FOR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ONLY ITEMS. STAFF WILL ALSO CLAIM ANY MESSAGES, UH, RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL. LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL 'EM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS. SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. ALRIGHT, STAFF, [1. 20-4769 (Continued from 07/21/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700141 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District and "MF-33 AHOD" Multi-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-1 AHOD" Limited Intensity Infill Development Zone Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for five (5) dwelling units on Lot 15, the east 25 feet of Lot 14 and the west 25 feet of Lot 16, NCB 3098, located at 233 East Craig Place. Staff recommends Denial. (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department) ] IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND ANY POSTPONED OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS. YES SIR. ITEM NUMBER ONE LOCATED AT 2 33 EAST CRAIG PLACE HAS BEEN POSTPONED. IT WILL NOT BE HEARD TODAY. WHEN THE APPLICANT IS READY TO PROCEED, WE WILL RE NOTIFY FOR THE CASE AND REPUBLISHED AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE ZONING COMMISSION. ITEM NUMBER SIX NEEDED TO BE MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL HEARING. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A CONTINUANCE AND SO WE NEED TO MOVE THAT OVER TO INDIVIDUAL. ITEM NUMBER NINE WAS ALSO MOVED TO INDIVIDUAL. ITEM NUMBER 13 WAS MOVED TO COMBINE HEARING NUMBER TWO FOR A REFUSAL. AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 14 ON INDIVIDUAL HAS A RECUSAL AS WELL. SO THE ITEMS ON COMBINED HEARING, NUMBER ONE THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AT THIS TIME ARE ITEM NUMBER SEVEN AT 25 0 7 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, ITEM 8 11 600 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 WEST, ITEM TEN EIGHT TWELVE SOUTH HACKBERRY STREET, ITEM 11 46 40 SOUTH FLORIDAS ROAD, ITEM 12 13 14 NORTH CENTER, ITEM 13, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 4 39, SOUTHEAST LOOP FOUR 10. AND ITEM NUMBER 15 LOCATED AT 36 0 2 36 10 36 18 WEST COMMERCE STREET. AND JUST FOR CLARITY, I'M SORRY, JUST FOR CLARITY, ITEM NUMBER 13 IS GOING TO BE ON COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, CORRECT? CORRECT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DO ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY ITEM THAT IS CURRENTLY ON COMBINED HEARING? NUMBER ONE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO INDIVIDUAL HEARING, SEEING NO COMMISSIONER AND HEARING? NO. COMMISSIONER, UH, STAFF, [Items 7, 8, 10 - 12, & 15 ] WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE REMAINING CONSENT ITEMS INTO THE RECORD? [00:05:02] YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX H A H O D R SIX H U C THREE A H O D TO R SIX S H A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CHILDCARE FACILITY AND R SIX F H U C THREE A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A CHILDCARE FACILITY LOCATED AT 25 0 7 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED TO, RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND MONTICELLO PARK IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C P U C ONE. C P U C ONE M L O D ONE M L R TWO TO C THREE, UC, ONE AND C THREE UC, ONE M L O D MLR MLR TWO LOCATED AT 16 11 600 INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 10 WEST. THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 10, TO REZONE FROM N C H L A H O D TO N C F H L A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A MEDICAL CLINIC LOCATED AT EIGHT 12 SOUTH HACKBERRY STREET. THERE WERE 37 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND DENVER HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 11 TO REZONE FROM BP TO I ONE. LOCATED AT 46 40 SOUTH LOTTI ROAD. THERE WERE FIVE NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 12 TO REZONE FROM I ONE AND R FOUR TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1314 NORTH CENTER, THERE WERE 33 NOTICES MAILED. TWO RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION. NO RESPONSE FROM JEFFERSON TYPE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 15 TO REZONE FROM C THREE AND I ONE TO I D Z TWO WITH USE IS PERMITTED IN C TWO WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 36 0 2, 36 10 AND 36 18 WEST COMMERCE STREET. THERE WERE 35 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVING FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MR. CHAIR. SORRY. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A MOTION? UH, MR. CHAIR, I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE COMBINED HEARING NUMBER ONE AS LISTED ITEM 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, SECOND, AND 15 A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. I'M SORRY. YES. AND 15. OKAY. THERE'S A MOTION. UM, AND A SECOND STAFF ROLL CALL. VOTE. ALRIGHT. UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE I HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH AS THE SECOND. IS THAT CORRECT? IT WAS ME AND MARK. OH, MARK. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE. UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIP. OH, MAKE SURE TO HIT ON MUTE. MR. COMMISSIONER SES. OH, I DON'T SEE HIM ON THE SCREEN. OKAY. UH, I'LL GO TO CHAIR MR. MONTHLY. AYE. ALRIGHT, LET'S GIVE COMMISSIONER SPEES ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. COMMISSIONER SPEES, ARE YOU THERE? NO. OKAY. SO MOTION PASSES. UH, NINE TO ZERO. OKAY. IF WE COULD MOVE [13. 20-4907 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700177 (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "PUD I-1 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Planned Unit Development General Industrial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District, "PUD C-3 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Planned Unit Development General Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District, and "PUD C-3 NA MLOD-3 MLR-1" Planned Unit Development General Commercial Nonalcoholic Sales Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Region 1 District and “PUD C-1 MLOD-3 MLR-1” Planned Unit Development Light Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District to "MF-25 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Low Density Multi-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District on 15.082 acres out of NCB 10615, generally located at 439 SE Loop 410. Staff recommends Approval, pending Plan Amendment. (Associated Plan Amendment PA 2020-11600050) (Justin Malone, Planner (210) 207-0157, justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov;Development Services Department) ] ON TO COMBINED HEARING NUMBER TWO, WHICH I BELIEVE CONSISTS OF ITEM NUMBER 13. I'M SORRY. YES. THANK YOU. YES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM CUDD I ONE, [00:10:01] CUDD C THREE CUDD, C THREE AND A. AND I'M SORRY IF I COULD INTERRUPT YOU JUST FOR ONE SECOND. MS. FLORES, I APOLOGIZE. I OMITTED, UH, TO NOTE THAT COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS, HAS RECUSED AND HAS STEPPED OUT OF THE MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. THIS IS A ITEM NUMBER 13 AS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM CUDD I ONE PUD C THREE PUD C THREE A AND PUD C ONE TO MF 25. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME, GENERALLY LOCATED AT 4 39 SOUTHEAST ROUTE FOUR 10. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THERE WAS ONE NOTICE RECEIVED IN FAVOR FROM OUTSIDE 200 FEET. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. UH, DO I HEAR A MOTION? MS. COMMISSIONER SIPES? UH, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 13? SECOND. SECOND. UH, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. STAFF ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. AND CHAIR BUSANTE A MOTION PASSES IS 10 TO ZERO. ALRIGHT. UH, IF WE COULD BEGIN WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL [2. 20-5136 (Continued from 08/04/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700122 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "R-6 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Airport Hazard Overlay District to "RM-4 AHOD" Residential Mixed Airport Hazard Overlay District on the East 12.5 feet of Lot 11, Lot 12 and Lot 13, Block 2, NCB 6481, located at 1526 West Mistletoe Avenue. Staff recommends Denial, with Alternate Recommendation. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services). ] HEARING ITEMS. UH, STAFF, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE PRESENT THE FIRST ITEM. THE FIRST ITEM FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION IS NUMBER TWO, A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D TO RMM. FOUR A H O D LOCATED AT 1526 WEST MISTLETOE AVENUE. THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 11 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED, THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED. ONE NOTICE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET AND 27 NOTICES WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET. THE CURRENT R SIX BASE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, WEST, AND NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THE CURRENT COMMUNITY'S CHARACTER IS A MAXIMUM OF TWO DWELLING UNITS PER LOT. THEREFORE, AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. THE REQUESTED RMM FOUR WOULD INTRODUCE EXCESSIVE DENSITY, WHICH IS NOT CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR R SIX CD WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS. MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT MR. RILEY? WHAT? YES, I'M, I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, MR. RILEY, WE CAN HEAR YOU. GREAT. AND, UM, AND I WOULD, I'M NOT SURE IF THIS HAS BEEN, UH, FOR THIS KNOWN, BUT, UH, I HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, T MEMBER TREVINO ON THE 21ST OF AUGUST. IT WAS, I THINK, A VERY PRODUCTIVE MEETING WITH HIM AND HIS STAFF. AND, UH, WE AGREED TO, TO SET UP A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION TO SEE IF WE COULD COME TO SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT OR COMPROMISE ON THIS PROPOSAL. UH, UNFORTUNATELY THAT MEETING HAS NOT YET BEEN SET UP. IT'S ACTUALLY PROPOSED FOR FRIDAY, THE 4TH OF SEPTEMBER OR MONDAY THE SEVENTH. AND, UH, AND SO FOR THAT REASON I WOULD ASK FOR ONE MORE CONTINUANCE FROM THE, FROM THE COMMISSION TO ALLOW US TO SEE IF WE CAN, UH, FIND SOME CONSENSUS HERE ON THE BEST WAY FORWARD. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. RILEY. UM, STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. WE HAVE, UH, ONE LIVE CALLER AND ONE VOICEMAIL AND SEVERAL COMMENTS TO READ. UM, YOU KNOW, STAFF, IF YOU COULD REFRESH MY RECOLLECTION, UM, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE. UH, I BELIEVE OUR PREVIOUS PRACTICE WAS TO, UH, POSSIBLY HOLD THOSE COMMENTS, BUT READ THE, OR AT LEAST HAVE THE LIVE ONE ON. COULD YOU JUST CLARIFY OUR PRACTICE FOR ME? I WOULD, UH, YES, THE LIVE CALLER SHOULD, UH, BE ABLE TO COMMENT TODAY, BUT I WOULD ALSO, UH, STATE THAT THE VOICEMAIL SHOULD ALSO BE PART OF THE RECORD SO THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CLEAR AMOUNT OF SPACE FOR VOICEMAILS FOR THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. SO WHAT WE CAN DO IS THEN [00:15:01] PLAY THE VOICEMAIL FIRST, THEN DO THE LIVE CALLER, AND THEN WE'LL RESERVE THE WRITTEN COMMENTS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. OKAY. LET'S PROCEED IN THAT MANNER, PLEASE. OKAY, THANK YOU. A POINT OF ORDER, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT IF THE APPLICANT COMES FORWARD AND SAYS HE'S ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE, THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN IS A MOTION ACT MOTION ON THE FLOOR THAT YOU COULD MAKE A CHANGE TO WHETHER WE HEAR ANY, ANY CALL-INS? BECAUSE I DOESN'T THE MOTION COME FROM THE COMMISSIONER THEMSELVES? UH, CHAIR, DID YOU WANT TO COME, COME IN IT? SO, NO, I, I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO MYSELF. APPARENTLY, UM, , UM, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS IS CORRECT THAT THE MOTION WOULD COME FROM COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IN THIS CASE. UH, HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, IN THE INTEREST OF EFFICIENCY, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD TAKE THE CALL IN THE VOICEMAIL AS THE STAFF INDICATED, UH, SHOULD COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE NOT MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE, THEN WE CAN GO BACK AND READ THE PUBLIC COMMENTS INTO THE RECORD AND PROCEED IN THAT MANNER. OKAY. SO JUST TO CLARIFY, EVEN THOUGH THE APPLICANT MAY COME FORWARD AND SAY, I'M SEEKING THIS, THAT'S NOT A, A MOTION FOR US TO MAKE A, ANY TYPE OF A PROCESS CHANGE TO IT ONLY FROM THE COMMISSIONER. IF THAT MOTION IS DONE, THEN I THINK A PROCESS CHANGE IS, UM, CONSIDERED TO BE CONSIDERED. AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT. UM, TELL YOU WHAT, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, DO YOU INTEND TO MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE? THAT IS MY INTENTION. AND, AND I THINK, I THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE WHOLE CHICKEN BEFORE THE EGG. LIKE WE, WE NEED, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S SOME WAY FOR US TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE HANDLE THIS, AND I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF WE NEED TO HAVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR FIRST IN ORDER TO DETERMINE HOW WE'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENTS. BUT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE MOTION, WE NEED TO HEAR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. I FEEL LIKE WE'RE IN KIND OF A CATCH 22. SO YES, MY INTENTION IS TO BE MAKING THE MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO ADDRESS HOW WE HANDLE THIS GOING FORWARD. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT AND I THANK COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND COMMISSIONER GIBBONS FOR RAISING THIS, UH, STAFF. IF WE COULD ADD THIS TO A WORK SESSION POSSIBLY FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. YES, SIR. WE CAN DO THAT. I'M SORRY. IT IS SEPTEMBER. OH MY GOSH. UH, THE NEXT MEETING, ? YES SIR. WE COULD DO THAT. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD PROCEED AS YOU OUTLINED. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. STAFF, IF WE COULD PROCEED. UH, WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY THE VOICEMAIL NOW. AT 1523 WEST MISSILE THERAPY. HI, MY NAME IS CHRISSY RIVAS AND I RESIDE AT 1523 WEST MISSILE TOW. I'M CALLING TODAY TO RECORD MY FORMAL OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST FOR THE CASE NUMBER ENDING IN 1 2 2 FOR THE ADDRESS OF 1 5 2 6 WEST MISSILE TOW, UM, B BASICALLY JUST CALLING TO RECORD MY OPPOSITION TO THE BUILDING OF A FOURPLEX. UM, AS RESIDENTS OF THE STREET, WE HAVE WORKED WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER TO COMMUNICATE WHAT WE THINK IS A VERY REASONABLE REQUEST TO BUILD A DUPLEX ON THE PROPERTY. WE THINK THAT A DUPLEX WILL BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THE HISTORIC CHARACTER OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WITH THE NEEDS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE ALSO FEEL LIKE A DUPLEX WILL WITH APPROPRIATE ONSITE PARKING WILL, UM, ALLEVIATE CONCERNS THAT A DUPLEX WITH APPROPRIATE PARKING SPOTS WILL ALLOW FOR NOT ONLY PARKING FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THIS DUPLEX, BUT THE AT THE DESK. WHEREAS THE FOURPLEX WOULD STILL CONTINUE TO CREATE PROBLEMS WITH THE OVERFLOW THAT WE EXPERIENCED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, JUST THIS WEEK, UH, THERE WAS A CAR ACCIDENT ON THE BLOCK WHERE A FEDEX TRUCK HIT, UM, A RESIDENCE CAR AS HE WAS TRYING TO NAVIGATE THROUGH THE, THROUGH, UM, OUR CROWDED AND NARROW STREET. UH, FINALLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO RECORD. UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE OWNER'S INTEREST IN MAKING INVESTMENTS [00:20:01] INCOME, BUT I DON'T FEEL IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, UH, ONE PERSON'S DESIRE TO MAKE INVESTMENT INCOME SHOULD SUPERSEDE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR, UM, THE RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, ROBERT. MS. HILL, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YES. YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ZONING COMMISSION. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. I'M BARBARA HILL, OWNER AND RESIDENT OF 1535 WEST MISSILE TOW, LOCATED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM 1526 WEST MISSILE TOW. I'M SPEAKING TODAY TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION OF REZONING. MOST HOMES ON THE 1500 BLOCK BLOCK IN WEST MISSILE TOW WERE BUILT IN THE 1920S AS A PLANNED SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT KNOWN AS WOODLAWN PLACE. TWO HOMES ON THIS BLOCK ARE ACTUALLY DESIGNATED AS HISTORIC HOMES, ONE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS PROPERTY. 1526. MOST EXISTING HOMES ON THE BLOCK RELY ON SOME STREET PARKING ARE NARROWEST STREET WELL UNDER THE STANDARD WIDTH BECOMES IMPASSABLE TO REGULAR VEHICLES, LET ALONE SERVICE AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES WHEN CARS ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. WHILE THE DESIGN PROPOSED BY MR. RALLY ALLOWANCE FOR NINE PARKING SPACES, A TWO BEDROOM, FOUR UNIT STRUCTURE WILL LIKELY MEAN TWO VEHICLES PER UNIT LEAVING ONLY ONE SPACE FOR GUEST PARKING. WE FEAR THE ISSUE WILL BE EXACERBATED BY ADDITIONAL CARS PARKED ON THE STREET. ALL HOMES ON THIS BLOCK ARE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE GRAND AND FATHER OF DUPLEX, AND MOST INCLUDING THE TWO ADJACENT PROPERTIES HAVE SINGLE STORY ROOF LINES. THE DESIGN PROPOSED BY MR. RILEY WILL NOT ONLY TOWER OVER THESE HOMES AND INVADE THEIR PRIVACY, IT WILL STAND OUT AND STARK CONTRAST AND CHARACTER TO THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, MUCH LIKE A NEW HOME ON THIS BLOCK, WHICH WAS BUILT ON PROPERTY OF A CONDEMNED HOME. I HAVE LIVED ON THE STREET SINCE 2004 AND 1526 WEST MISTLETOE HAS BEEN AN I SOURCE SINCE THE DAY I MOVED IN. FIRST IS A DETERIORATING HOUSE SPLIT INTO FOUR RENTAL UNITS, AND NOW IS AN EMPTY LOT THAT NEIGHBORS ON THEIR OWN HAVE MAINTAINED KEEPING THE GRASS CUT FOR YEARS. AS THE CURRENT HOMEOWNER HAS FAILED TO PROVIDE UPKEEP, MY NEIGHBORS AND I, WE WELCOME THE RESPITE FROM THE CURRENT EMPTY LOT. HOWEVER, WITH A SINGLE FAMILY HOME KEEPING WITH THE CHARACTER OF EXISTING HOMES AND WITH HOMEOWNERS THAT ADD INTRINSIC VALUE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND NOT AS A MULTI-FAMILY RENTAL BUILDING THAT WILL INCREASE DENSITY, TRAFFIC AND NOISE AND WITH RENTERS THAT AREN'T INVESTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALLOWING THIS PROPERTY TO BE REZONED IN A PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT FOR OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS AND FUTURE DEVELOPERS. THE POTENTIAL DOMINO SET THIS WILL HAVE WITH MORE REZONING APPLICATIONS TO FOLLOW IS PRIMARY MS. HILL. I'M SORRY, TWO MINUTES, MS. HILL. THANK YOU. IF YOU WOULD REMAIN ON THE LINE. MS. HILL, UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR MS. HILL AT THIS TIME? HEARING AND SEEING NONE. THANK YOU MS. HILL. UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE ANY REBUTTAL? UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE ANYWAY, BUT JUST I WOULD LIKE TO TO BRIEFLY STATE THAT YOU KNOW, MS. RIVAS WHO, UM, ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS, SHE'S A, SHE'S A RENTER AND I DO APPRECIATE HER COMMENTS. UH, BUT YOU KNOW, I I'M NOT SURE THAT AS A RENTER, SHE HAS A, HAS THE STANDING TO, TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS. I WANNA MAKE THAT FOR THE RECORD. UH, AS FAR AS MS. HILL, YOU KNOW, SHE TALKS ABOUT THIS BEING AN INVESTMENT. IT IS AN INVESTMENT, BUT FOR ME, THE, THE REASON WHY A FOURPLEX IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN A DUPLEX IS BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE CHANCE TO, TO, UH, DO SOME IN INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS CITY. THIS IS ONE OF THE FEW LOTS IN THE AREA THAT, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE TO BE SOMETHING MORE THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME OR EVEN A DUPLEX. AND THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT, IT, IT ADVANCES SO MANY IMPORTANT CITY GOALS FROM DEALING WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, TO PROMOTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TO, UH, GENERALLY BUILDING UP THE CENTER OF THE CITY AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO THE SUBURBAN SPRAWL. THAT'S BEEN THE GROWTH PATTERN FOR SO LONG HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. SO I THINK THAT THERE'S A, A BIGGER PICTURE HERE THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, UH, WHEN WE CONSIDER WHAT, WHAT THE BEST THING TO DO WITH THIS LOT IS. BUT, AND I WOULD, I WOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT AT LEAST SIX OF THE, UH, ROUGHLY 20 HOMES ON MISSILE TOE ARE TWO STORIES. AND SO THE IDEA THAT THIS, THAT A TWO STORY HOME WOULD, WOULD SOMEHOW BE COMPLETELY OUTTA CHARACTER IS IN MY, IN MY VIEW WRONG. BUT THAT SAID, I'D STILL LIKE TO, UH, MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SEE IF THERE'S SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE THAT CAN BE MADE. UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BIG CONCERN IS OF COURSE THE, UH, CONGESTION ON THE STREET, WHICH I UNDERSTAND, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE NINE OFF STREET PARKING SPOTS THAT THE, AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS, UH, WE COULD BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND WE DON'T, THERE'D ONLY BE A REQUIREMENT FOR ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPOT, WHICH WOULD, [00:25:01] UH, SIGNIFICANTLY LEAD TO, TO MORE CONGESTION THAN THE PROPOSED FOURPLEX. SO I THINK THAT WE, WE'VE DEALT WITH THE MAIN CONCERN AND, UH, AND THERE'S SOME VERY GOOD REASONS TO CONSIDER A, A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY IN THIS, IN THIS LOT THAN, UH, WITH HIS PREVIOUS. THANK YOU MR. RILEY. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVOKE. YES. ALRIGHT, UH, I'D LIKE TO GO TO COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AS THIS IS A DISTRICT ONE CASE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. I APOLOGIZE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ANTE. UM, SO, UM, THE APPLICANT HAD REACHED OUT TO ME AHEAD OF TIME AND I'M AWARE THAT, UM, THAT HE HAS BEEN WORKING WITH OUR, UH, CITY COUNCIL OFFICE AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HAVING A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND JUST HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO, TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN DUE TO A FEW DELAYS, UM, THAT ARE NOT THE FAULT OF THE APPLICANT. SO, THAT BEING SAID, UM, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER, I BELIEVE AT THIS POINT IT'S FIVE WEEKS. LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR, UM, THE, YEAH, I THINK WHAT WE'D BE GOING UNTIL THE OCTOBER 6TH, UH, ZONING COMMISSION MEETING. SO, UM, I'LL STATE IT FORMALLY. MOTION TO CONTINUE ITEM NUMBER TWO TO THE OCTOBER 6TH ZONING COMMISSION HEARING. SECOND KAMO. OKAY. UH, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY, UH, DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS, HEARING AND SEEING NONE AND ALSO SEEING THE ACTUAL CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION? UM, ROLL CALL VOTE. AND THEN I WILL TURN IT OVER TO CHAIR MCGEE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. UH, AND VICE CHAIR BUSANTE AYE. MOTION PASSES 10 TO ZERO. ALSO, UM, MAY, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, I'M NOT SURE IF I KNOW THE FLOW OF THE MEETING, SO PERHAPS IT'S BEST THAT YOU, UH, I MISSED SO MUCH OF THE WORK SESSION AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. I'D LIKE TO GET ACCLIMATED. , IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, REMAINING, UNLESS YOU JUST WANNA BRIEF ME, MADAM CHAIR, UH, WHAT, WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS, I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE ON OR, I, I, I'LL, I'LL REMAIN IN A SUPPORTING ROLE TODAY IF YOU DON'T MIND. . WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ALRIGHT, SO MOTION PASSES FOR CONTINU OCTOBER 6TH. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR. ALRIGHT, VERY WELL, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO INDIVIDUAL ITEM NUMBER THREE, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES. THIS POINT OF CEL? YEP. UH, COMMISSIONER, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT I DO THINK RENTERS THAT CALL IN ON CASES DO MATTER. UH, THE APPLICANT SAID OTHERWISE, BUT I THINK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD AGREE. ALL VOICES MATTER. RENTER OR OWNER? UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. AND I THINK THAT IS A, A GOOD, UH, STATEMENT TO BE MADE AND I THINK, ALTHOUGH I HATE TO SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, I HOPE THAT ALL COMMISSIONERS AGREE WITH THAT, THAT ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY'S VOICES MATTER HERE. ALRIGHT, IF WE CAN MOVE ON [3. 20-5135 (Continued from 08/04/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700144 (Council District 5): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Residential Single-Family Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District to "IDZ-2 MLOD-2 MLR-2 AHOD" Medium Intensity Infill Development Zone Lackland Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 Airport Hazard Overlay District with uses permitted for twenty-nine (29) units on Lots 1 through 8, Block 10, NCB 6253, located at 611 Oriental Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) ] TO ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO I D Z TWO WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT SIX 11 ORIENTAL AVENUE. THERE WERE THREE, EXCUSE ME, THERE WERE 42 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND COLIN GARDEN IS OPPOSED AND NO RESPONSE FROM GARDEN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE EXISTING R FIVE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE EXISTING R FIVE ALLOWS FOR ONE RESIDENTIAL UNIT. THE PROPOSED I D Z TWO IS ALSO SUITABLE TO THE AREA AND PROVIDES OPPORTUNITY FOR ADDITIONAL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS WITH CONSIDERATION FOR 29 RESIDENTIAL UNITS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND THE APPLICANT OFFICIALLY AMENDED THEIR REQUEST RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING TO I D Z TWO [00:30:01] WITH USES PERMITTED FOR 20 UNITS. AND SO I BELIEVE HE WILL BE PRESENTING THAT WHEN HE SPEAKS MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? THIS IS PATRICK CHRISTENSEN. I'M PRESENT. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. PATRICK CHRISTENSEN, THREE 10 SOUTH ST. MARY'S, SUITE 2,700. I'M GONNA RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE. I'VE BEEN MAKING PROGRESS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'VE COME DOWN FROM 29 TO 20 UNITS, BUT THEY'VE GOT SOME LOGISTICAL QUESTIONS ON OUR SITE PLAN. I NEED TO GET, UH, SOME ANSWERS FROM MY CLIENT FOR, I WOULD RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A CONTINUANCE TO THE OCTOBER 6TH MEETING. ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU MR. CHRISTENSEN. UH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS CASE? STAFF? THERE ARE NO LIVE COLORS AND THERE ARE NO VOICEMAILS. THERE ARE, THERE IS THE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE OTHER TWO NOTICES RECEIVING OPPOSITION. OKAY. UM, I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE GONNA TREAT THIS ITEM LIKE THE PREVIOUS ITEM AND AS IT IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE AND I AM INTENDING TO MOVE FOR THE CONTINUANCE, THAT IS IT. MR. CHRISTENSEN, WOULD YOU LIKE ANY REBUTTAL TO NOTHING, I WOULD ADVISE YOU NO, NO. THANK YOU. UNNECESSARY . I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS CHRISTY FLORES. YES, MS. FLORES. MR. CHRIS CHRISTENSEN. ARE YOU OFFICIALLY AMENDING TO 20 UNITS? YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU MS. FLORES. I I MEANT TO ASK THAT QUESTION AND I DID NOT. SO, UM, ALRIGHT. IN LIGHT OF THAT AMENDMENT AND THE REQUEST FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 6TH, UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT FIVE CASE. I'M GOING TO MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 6TH. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. THERE WERE A NUMBER OF THEM. UM, UH, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND. STAFF ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. AND VICE CHAIR AYE. MOTION PASSES. 11 TO ZERO. VERY GOOD. UM, IF WE COULD MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER [4. 20-5137 (Continued from 08/04/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700145 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "I-1 AHOD" General Industrial Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-3 AHOD" General Commercial Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 2B, NCB 9483, located at 6831 South Flores Street. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment PA 2020-11600036) (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services). ] FOUR, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS THE REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO C THREE OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. AT 68 31 SOUTH FLOODED STREET, THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF FOUND LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED C THREE WILL ADD TO THE SATURATION OF AUTO REPAIR BUSINESSES CURRENTLY OPERATING IN THE AREA, A ZONING DISTRICT OF C ONE IS LESS ADVERSE IN IMPACT TO THE AREA AND ALLOWS LOW INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS SMALL SCALE RETAIL OR OFFICES, PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, CONVENIENCE, RETAIL AND SHOP PRINT RETAIL THAT SERVE, UH, MARKET EQUIVALENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD C ONE WOULD NOT REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT AS C THREE IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. MR. CHAIR? THANK YOU. UH, IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MR. ABDO, ARE YOU THERE? YES, SIR. YOU'RE GO AHEAD, SIR. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES. OKAY. UH, MY REQUEST IS FOR, FROM A INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO A C THREE RETAIL ZONING, AND THIS WILL HAVE A DOMINO EFFECT TO SHIFT USES AWAY FROM THE INDUSTRIAL USE THAT CURRENTLY HAS AND ALSO IMPROVE THE AESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. RETAIL USAGE SHOULD ALSO HAVE AN IMPACT ON INCREASED SALES TAX REVENUES AND PROPERTY PROPERTY TAX REVENUES. SUBJECT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE HERE IN THE ZONE TODAY IS A SMALL PROPERTY THAT IS THE FOUR 10TH OF AN ACRE, WHICH IS 17,436 SQUARE FEET AND A BUILDING ON THE PROPERTY OF ONLY 1,232 SQUARE FEET. ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ON THIS BLOCK ARE CURRENTLY ZONED I ONE. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PRESENTATION THAT, UM, I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF THE PRESENTATION, IS THAT CORRECT? UH, MR. AO, WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION [00:35:01] UP STAFF. WE ARE VOTING IT UP, SIR. OKAY. IT'S GOING TO BE OKAY, MR. AO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. JUST TELL US WHICH SLIDE TO START, UH, SHERRY AND THEN WE'LL, WE CAN GO, I'M SORRY. SAY, SAY AGAIN. KEEP GOING. WHICH SLIDE DO YOU WANNA GO TO? JUST TELL US. OH, I WANT TO GO TO, UH, PAGE, UH, PAGE THREE. ALRIGHT, GO AHEAD. PRESENT PRESENTATION. OKAY. ON PAGE, ON PAGE THREE, YOU'LL SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE, UH, C ONE, WHICH IS, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDED ON THE USES COMPARED TO ON THE YELLOW SECTION THAT IS CURRENTLY WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL. AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IF YOU THEN CHANGE FROM THE I ONE TO THE C ONE, I MEAN THE, THAT'S RIGHT, I ONE TO THE C ONE. YOU TAKE AWAY ALL THE USES THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE UNDER THE I ONE, BUT IF YOU REDUCE IT FROM THE INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE RETAIL ZONING, THEN YOU TAKE AWAY SOME OF THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL. BUT YOU MOVE THEM OVER INTO THE, UH, RETAIL, WHICH AGAIN ISN'T AGREED, UH, ON THE, UH, PAGE THREE. AND THEN YOU, THEN YOU HAVE A FUNCTIONAL PIECE OF PROPERTY ANYTIME YOU JUST CHANGE THE ZONING. ALSO, WHAT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT IS YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PRO PROCESS AND MEAN, THAT MEANS THAT YOU GOTTA GET ALL THE CURRENT RULES AND REGULATIONS IN PLACE IN ORDER TO GET YOUR CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. IF YOU THEN TURN TO PAGE THREE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THE PROPERTIES ALL ALONG THE, UH, THE, UH, SAME STREET OR OLD ZONE INDUSTRIAL, AND ON PAGE FOUR OF THE PRESENTATION, IT, IT THEN INDICATES ALSO THE, UH, I ONE ZONINGS ON, ON EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE. PAGE FIVE IS, WHAT WE DID WAS WE TOOK THE I TWO, I MEAN THE I ONE ZONINGS AND WE COLORED THEM IN RED ON EXHIBIT C. AND EXHIBIT C SHOWS THE REALITY OF WHAT ACTUALLY EXISTS ON THE PROPERTIES RIGHT NOW. SO PEOPLE I GUESS IN, IN SOME TIME AGO HAD SOME OF THOSE USES ON THERE, BUT WE COLORED THEM IN ORDER TO BE INDICATIVE OF WHAT ACTUALLY IS THERE TODAY. IF WE THEN GO TO PAGE, UH, SIX OF OUR PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS A COMPARISON OF THE EXISTING ZONING MAP BEING EXHIBIT D AS COMPARED TO EXHIBIT E, WHICH AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST SHOWING THE DIFFERENCES OF WHAT YOU COULD DO WITH THE C THREES VERSUS, AND C TWOS VERSUS THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL. THE BIG, THE BIG SIGNIFICANT POINT IN THIS WHOLE THING IS CHANGING FROM INDUSTRIAL, WHICH IS WHAT THE PROPERTY WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE DOWN TO THE, UH, RETAIL. AND, UH, RETAIL IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER TO HAVE THEN A, UH, INDUSTRIAL. SO IF WE GO TO PAGE, UH, SEVEN, PAGE SEVEN THEN SHOWS THE COMPARISON OF, UH, ROOSEVELT STREET, WHICH IS FOUR LANE ROAD AND SOUTH FLORIST, WHICH IS A FIVE LANE, THAT'D BE FOUR, FOUR LANES PLUS A TURNING LANE GOING UP TO SOUTHEAST MILITARY DRIVE. THAT'S MORE INDICATIVE OF WHAT THE AREA ACTUALLY IS TODAY. AND THEN IF YOU GO TO PAGE EIGHT, PAGE EIGHT, THAT SHOWS THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, ZONING TODAY, AND THAT IS THE ONE THAT I MENTIONED, WHICH IS FOUR TENTHS OF AN ACRE. AND THE BUILDING IS ONLY 1,232 SQUARE FEET. UH, PAGE NINE, WHICH IS THE VERY NEXT PAGE, SHOWS WHAT IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ZONING. AND THAT IS A C THREE USE. THAT IS A CAR LOT. PAGE 10, IF YOU GO TO THE SOUTH ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE THERE'S A VALERO THERE AND THAT'S A C TWO SLASH C THREE USE. ON THE NEXT PAGE, WHICH IS, UH, PAGE 11, YOU SEE A PICTURE OF THE AIR CONDITIONING COMPANY RIGHT NEXT DOOR, UH, TO US. AND THEN THAT THE SEAT THREE USE, ALONG WITH THE KING BUFFER TIRE SHOP, WHICH YOU SEE THREE USE ALSO. UH, PAGE 12 THEN IS, UH, BOBBY'S CAFE, WHICH IS A CT C TWO USE ON THE VERY NEXT, UH, BLOCK. AND THE C TWO USE ALSO ON THE VERY NEXT BLOCK OF, UH, EL, UH, CIO RESTAURANT. AND THEN LAIA, WHICH IS A C THREE USE BECAUSE THEY SERVE, UH, ALCOHOL. BUT THE WHOLE WHOLE POINT BEING IS THAT WHAT THE CHANGE OF ZONING IS REALLY NOT A C ONE AND C ONE JUST DOES NOT ALLOW YOU TO USE [00:40:01] ANY OF THE, ANY, UH, UH, REALLY, UH, A BETTER IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS A C THREE USES RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, WE, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY, ANY OPPOSITION FOR OUR ZONING CHAIN. WE DID TALK TO SOME OF THE, UH, NEIGHBORS. UH, NOBODY HAD ANY OPPOSITION. THEY, UH, VOICED, UH, SUPPORT, AS A MATTER OF FACT SAID, THE ONE THING THEY DIDN'T WANT IS BUILDINGS TO BE VACANT IN, UH, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I THINK WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT IT, WE, UH, ALSO WOULD MAKE, UH, ONE THING IS, AND I KNOW STAFF IS SAYING C ONE, UH, WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE A C THREE, BUT IF IT, IF UH, THINGS WERE REVERSED AND WE WENT AND WE HAD C THREE, WE ASKED FOR A SEAT, AN I ONE, I THINK THE OBVIOUS ANSWER WOULD BE, UM, ABSOLUTELY NOT. YOU WOULDN'T, WE, YOU WOULDN'T PUT AN I ONE IN THIS, IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YET WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN I ONE TODAY. SO WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, UH, I DO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND, UH, FOR YOUR VOTE IN SUPPORT OF OUR REQUEST FROM THE, UH, I ONE INDUSTRIAL ZONING DOWN TO C THREE. THERE IS ALSO A PICTURE OF, WE DID SIGN A LEASE WITH, UH, FLUID TRUCK AND IT, AND, UH, FLUID TRUCK IS ONE OF THE AMAZON, UH, THE AMAZON, UH, SUPPORT VANS THAT, THAT, UH, YOU PROBABLY EVERYBODY SEEN IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND CAN Y'ALL PUT A, A PICTURE OF THAT? WE SENT THAT PICTURE UP ALSO TO BE ABLE TO SHOW HIM THE SCREEN, UH, AT SOMEBODY. DO Y'ALL HAVE THAT PICTURE THAT Y'ALL CAN SHOW? IT IS UP, MR. ODUNDO? I'M SORRY. IT IS UP. IT IS UP. OKAY. YES, SIR. I GUESS THAT, OKAY. I JUST DON'T SEE, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF TRUCK THAT YOU SEE THAT WOULD BE IN, ON THE, UH, ON THE PROPERTY. AND, UH, SO YOU SEE HOW, HOW THAT WOULD BE, UH, A, A NICE OPERATION, CLEAN OPERATION, ALL THE, ALL THE, UH, VANS HAVE TO BE NEAT AND CLEAN IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO USE 'EM AND TO RENT 'EM OUT. AND AT THE SAME TIME NOW, THERE YOU GO. AT THE SAME TIME, UH, I THINK WE WERE ASKED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNEW WHAT THE SIZE OF THE TRUCKS WERE TO DETERMINE WHETHER WE NEEDED A CD FOR OVERSIZED TRUCKS. AND UH, THE ANSWER WAS THEY ARE OVERSIZED TRUCK, UH, PICKUPS, BUT THEY'RE NOT OVERSIZED TO THE EXTENT OF, UH, MEETING ANY REQUIREMENT THAT WOULD REQUIRE, UH, A CD ZONING. SO THEREFORE, UH, THEY'RE JUST REGULAR PICKUPS CONVERTED INTO, INTO VAN. AND AGAIN, THAT TRUCK THAT'S, UH, ON THE SCREEN NOW IS INDICATIVE OF WHAT, UH, THE, UH, LEASE WAS THAT WE SIGNED FOR, FOR THIS, UH, THIS USE ON THE PROPERTY TODAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. ARADONDO. ARE THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, SIR. I HAVE A COMMENT TO READ FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER. IT SAYS, I'M THE OWNER OF 68 31 SOUTH FLORES. I'M RESPONDING TO ZONING CASE 20 21 0 7 0 0 0 1 4 5 IN FAVOR. I FIND IT HARD, I FIND IT HARD TO FIND WHAT I CALL CLEAN BUSINESS TO LEASE MY PROPERTY WITH THE CURRENT I ONE ZONING, TRASHY DIRTY PROPERTIES IS MY PET PEEVE. I TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN MY PROPERTY AND WANT TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I KNOW THAT IF I CAN HAVE THE PROPERTY REZONED TO A C THREE, THIS WILL ALLOW ME TO FIND BUSINESS THAT ARE MORE CLEAN TO LEASE MY PROPERTY. I NOTICE THAT THERE ARE NUMEROUS PROPERTIES ZONED C THREE ON SOUTH FLORIDA MILITARY DRIVE AND ROOSEVELT AVENUE. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION APPROVE MY REQUEST. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? ALRIGHT, UH, MR. ARRADONDO, I THINK YOU DO STILL HAVE, UH, THE RIGHT TO REBUTTAL. HOWEVER, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A STATEMENT IN FAVOR. YOU CAN USE IT OR NOT. . YEAH, I, I WOULD SAY THAT GIVEN THAT WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION, GIVEN THAT IT IS A DOWN ZONE FROM INDUSTRIAL TO, UH, RETAIL, UM, THE, UH, I THINK THE, UH, THE FACT THAT THE, THE USER NOW THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA GO INTO, UH, VACANT PROPERTY IS, UH, CLEAN NEED AND ORDERLY, AND THEY HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE, UH, THE PROPERTY, WHICH IN EFFECT HAS A VERY POSITIVE EFFECT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF. AND, UH, THOSE, THOSE, UH, THOSE ARE THE BASIC THINGS [00:45:01] THAT SAYS THAT ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GO TO RETAIL, AND I KNOW THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, WE'VE DONE THIS AS MANY NEIGHBORHOODS, SCHOOL DISTRICTS THEN ARE THE BENEFICIARY, UH, BENEFICIARIES OF HAVING INCREASED REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES AND SALES TAXES AS, AS OPPOSED TO INDUSTRIAL, INDUSTRIAL, UH, PROPERTIES JUST DON'T HAVE AND OR BRING IN THE REVENUES THAT RETAIL, UH, BRINGS IN. AND SO IT'S ALL THOSE THINGS ALONG WITH CLEANLINESS, FOLLOWING THE NEW, NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS BY THE, UH, BY THE CITY IN ORDER TO GET THE PERMITS AND GET THE CBO AND THE ADDITIONAL REVENUES THAT WE ASK FOR SUPPORT IN GETTING OUR ZONING CASE, UH, APPROVED, UH, TODAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. . THIS IS A DISTRICT THREE, UH, CASE. SO CHAIR MCGEE. YES. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. SO, UM, I I I I'M GONNA JUST BASICALLY TURN IT OVER FOR QUESTIONS FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS BECAUSE I, I LOOK AT THIS, I SEE THAT IT'S CURRENTLY AN I ONE AND, UM, SO DOWN ZONING WOULD BE FAVORABLE. I SEE THAT WE HAVE A KNOWN, YOU KNOW, A KNOWN VENDOR THAT WOULD BE GOOD. I SEE THAT WE HAVE A VACANT PROPERTY THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE VACANT, BUT THEN ALSO STILL HAVE MY CONFLICT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUSHING HARD TRYING TO, UH, CLEAN UP THE AREA AND NOT HAVE C THREE. AND SO THAT'S MY THO THOSE ARE THE TWO JUXTAPOSES THAT ARE IN MY MIND AT THIS MOMENT. BUT I, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MY COMMISSIONER, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. COMMISSIONERS. ANY QUESTIONS? UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER SIPES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. YES. THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, AND I WAS CURIOUS WHY C TWO WAS NOT LOOKED AT SO THAT IT WOULD, BECAUSE I SEE, UM, ON FLORES AND ROOSEVELT THERE'S A LOT OF C TWO AS WELL. I WAS CURIOUS WHY C ONE WAS CHOSEN VERSUS C TWO. WAS IT STRICTLY BECAUSE OF AUTO RELATED USES OR WAS THERE ANOTHER REASON MR. SITES? IT'S BECAUSE WE WERE MAINTAINING CONSISTENCY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL OF THE STINSON AIRPORT VICINITY LAND USE PLAN. AND THE ONLY CONSISTENT ZONING DISTRICT FOR NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ARE GOING TO BE NC OH ONE AND C ONE. OKAY, THANKS. AND, UH, AND THAT'S IT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? YEAH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. I'M SORRY, ONE SECOND, SIR. IF A COMMISSIONER HAS A QUESTION, UH, THEY WILL ASK COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UM, UH, TO STAFF THE, THE PLAN AMENDMENT. WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE PLAN AMENDMENT ON THIS THAT HAS TO BE REVIEWED? YOU MENTIONED THE STINSON AIRPORT, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES. SO FOR A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH C THREE, THE REQUESTED LAND USE WOULD NEED TO BE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, AND YOUR REGIONAL COMMERCIAL IS GENERALLY LARGE TRACKS OF LAND WITH LARGE SHOPPING CENTERS, UH, WALMART, HOME DEPOTS, THOSE TYPES OF BIG BOX RETAILERS. AND, UH, I GUESS MY OTHER QUESTION IS THEN THE COMMISSIONER, UM, MCGEE, WHAT DID YOU MEAN BY CLEANING UP? WE HAVE A LARGE SATURATION OF AUTO AND TIRE SHOPS, UM, AUTO REPAIR AND TIRE SHOPS IN THE VICINITY. AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE A TURN AND TRY TO, UH, DIVERSIFY BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA. AND SO BY, WITH C THREE, THAT WOULD LEAVE THAT DOOR OPEN FOR MORE OF THE SAME KIND OF BUSINESS. AND, UM, WHY IS IT THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF AUTOMOTIVE ON THE STREET? IS THAT HAPPEN TO BE THE, THE SKILLSET WITHIN THAT AREA OR THE NEED OF THE PATRONS WITHIN THAT AREA? WHAT WOULD YOU, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY WOULD BE IF HE WENT C THREE FOR OPTIONS OTHER THAN AUTO REPAIR? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE OTHER OPTIONS UNDER C THREE? UM, I THINK PROBABLY WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO, I THINK DIVERSIFY IN THE FACT OF LIKE HAVING MORE MOM AND POPS, UH, TYPE BUSINESSES. MORE, [00:50:01] MORE OF THE, UM, C TWO COMMERCIAL TYPES, C ONE COMMERCIAL TYPE AS OPPOSED TO OPENING THE DOOR FOR SOME OF THOSE MORE INTENSE USES. SO I, I HAVEN'T MADE UP MY MIND. I'M JUST SAYING THOSE ARE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN PRESSING FOR IN THIS AREA. AND SO DO YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE STATISTICAL DATA INFORMATION THAT THIS IS DETRIMENTAL TO THIS AREA? IT SEEMS THAT IT'S A NEED IF THESE TYPE OF BUSINESSES SEEM TO BE CROPPING UP AND THEY SEEM TO BE OCCUPIED WITH BUSINESS. I THINK WE HAVE QUITE A FEW. I I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IS, UM, NOTHING THAT THE SEEMS WITH BUSINESS, SO I THINK WE HAVE, UH, THOSE TYPE OF BUSINESSES IN THAT AREA ALREADY. OKAY. TO STAFF THEN COULD YOU GIVE A LIST OF WHAT OTHER C THREE OPTIONS THE LANDOWNER HAS OTHER THAN AUTOMOTIVE REPAIR? THE USES, UH, THE ALTERNATIVES IN C THREE, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR TAB ON YOUR REPORT, IT IS, UH, WILL ALLOW BAR, TAVERN, NIGHTCLUB, AMUSEMENT THEME PARK, DANCE HALL, MOVIE THEATER, AUTO REPAIR, AUTO SALES, HOTEL BOOK BINDER, DRY CLEANING, LAUNDRY PLANT, INDOOR FLEA MARKET, HOME IMPROVEMENT CENTER, BODY PIERCING MASSAGE, TATTOO PARLOR, NO OUTDOOR, UH, STORAGE IS PERMITTED. AND THERE'S SOME DISPLAY RESTRICTIONS AS WELL. AND THAT'S FOR THE C THREE DISTRICT. THEN UM, I HAVE A QUESTION THEN FOR THE APPLICANT. IS HE STILL THERE? UH, YES, I'M STILL HERE. OKAY. AND I WOULD AGREE WITH, I WOULD AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER S SIPES AS TO WHY WE DON'T GO IN C TWO IF WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, MAYBE CORRECT. WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN AN OVERSATURATION OF THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS THERE? IS IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN EXISTING BUSINESS AND THIS WOULD CONTINUE THE, THE, THE, UM, THE, UH, LEASE ON YOUR LAND? IS, IS THAT WHY YOU'RE ASKING C THREE AND NOT MAYBE A C TWO? I THINK C ONE IS TOO LOW FOR THE AREA, BUT COULD YOU ADDRESS WHY NOT A C TWO C TWO COMPATIBLE? WELL, C THREE IS MORE COMPATIBLE, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, UH, AND, UH, I GOTTA ASK STAFF THIS QUE QUESTION, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT YOU CAN CANNOT HAVE, UH, AUTO RENTAL, WHICH THESE, THE TRUCKS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE PICTURE THAT SHE SEE ON THE SCREEN REQUIRES A C THREE TO HAVE THAT, IN WHICH CASE WE FILE SIGN THIS THREE YEAR LEASE WITH, UH, FLUID. AND, AND AGAIN, THAT IS, THAT'S AN EXTREME, A VERY GOOD USE FOR THAT PROPERTY, WHICH REQUIRES A C THREE. OH, OKAY. SO YOU, YOU HAVE A, AN AGREEMENT WITH A TENANT ALREADY AND YOU WOULD NEED TO SEE THROUGH THAT? THAT IS CORRECT. AND THAT, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A VERY STRONG FINANCIAL TENANT? SURE. THAT IS, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UH, THEY ORIGINATED OUT OF DENVER, COLORADO, SO THEY'RE A NATIONAL GROUP. OKAY. AND SO TO TO BE DENIED THE, THE ZONING TODAY WOULD BE A HARDSHIP FOR YOU? YES. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER? I, I HAVE A QUESTION. I, I'M SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. ARE YOU? YEAH, KAMATH, KTH, . YEAH. YEAH. YOU KNOW, IF, UH, SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, REMEMBER, UH, WE HAD, UH, TAKEN A TOUR TO THIS AREA, SOUTH FLORES AND UH, UH, ROOSEVELT, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WE, I THINK THE CITY WAS DESPERATELY TRYING TO, UH, CLEAN UP THIS AREA. AND, UM, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US. UH, A NATIONAL, UH, TENANT IS GOING TO BE, UH, TAKING UP THIS, UH, ONE QUARTER OF AN ACRE, EVEN IF IT IS C THREE THERE. UH, IT IS VERY USEFUL FOR THIS AREA, IS WHAT I, UH, ENVISION, ESPECIALLY DISTRICT FOUR IS VERY ALMOST ADJACENT TO DISTRICT THREE. AND, UH, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. UH, THAT'S MY, UH, COMMENT TODAY, . ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAMATH. UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? ANY QUESTIONS? UH, ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. ARE YOU THERE? CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY, JERRY, UM, I, I THINK IN OUR LAST MEETING I [00:55:01] ASKED YOU A QUESTION AND LATER HEARD A DIFFERENT ANSWER. SO I WANNA UNDERSTAND, SO THIS PROPERTY, YOU, YOU'RE WANTING TO DESIGN DOWN ZONE TO C THREE, SO YOU CAN HAVE LEASE RENTAL VANS ON SITE, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. AND, AND THE QUESTION THAT I ASKED YOU WAS THOSE VANS, WILL YOU BE DOING ANY REPAIR WORK ON SITE? UH, NO. UH, OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY NEED A BATTERY OR SOMETHING, BUT NO, NOT, UH, NOT A REPAIR, UH, FACILITY AT ALL. OKAY. SO ALL THEY'RE GONNA DO IS LEASE A VAN AND, AND MY QUESTION GOES TO WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA BECOME A COMMERCIAL SERVICE FACILITY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT COME IN TO GET A BATTERY OR THE GENERAL PUBLIC MIGHT COME IN TO GET SOME OTHER KIND OF AN AUTO AUTO REPAIR. I, I JUST, I'M TRYING TO, I'M SORRY. RIGHT? YEAH. THE ANSWER'S NO. OKAY. UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, ACTUALLY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL WAS, WAS GETTING KIND OF TO WHERE I WANTED TO BE, WHICH IS HELP ME UNDERSTAND THIS BUSINESS, UH, THAT FLUID DOES. YOU KNOW, I I SEE A PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, FOR EXAMPLE, RENTAL AND LEASE. I THINK OF RENTAL AS PEOPLE COMING IN AND RENTING A TRUCK FOR A WEEK, A FEW DAYS, MAYBE A MONTH WHILE A LEASE. UH, UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, I WOULD IMAGINE THESE ARE FOR LONGER PERIODS OF TIME, LIKE SIX MONTHS. SO HOW MUCH INVENTORY WOULD BE ON THE PROPERTY AT ANY GIVEN TIME FOR HOW LONG, UH, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC WOULD THERE BE FROM THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE LEASING MR. ELONGO? TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. YEAH. THE ANSWER IS YES. UH, WHEN, WHEN I SPOKE TO THE, UH, GENTLEMAN IN CHARGE OF FLUID AND THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, HE SAID THE PROPERTY IS, IS NOT BIG ENOUGH TO PUT MORE THAN PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT TRUCKS ON THE PROPERTY, THAT IF WE WENT, YOU KNOW, PLUS, PLUS OR MINUS ONE, THAT WOULD BE ABOUT IT. JUST, UH, THE SHEER SIZE OF THE PROPERTY. AND, UH, SO THAT, THAT, UH, I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION IS AS FAR AS TRAFFIC AND EVERYTHING, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, MINIMAL AT BEST, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S AT THE ACTUAL INTERSECTION OF, UH, UH, HARDING AND UH, UH, SOUTH FLORES. IT'S NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, BUT THAT, THAT, UH, SMALL PROPERTY AND THEREFORE THAT HE SAID THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST THEY CAN DO TO DO THAT. THEY'RE, BUT I, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU OUR, OUR CONVERSATION ALSO. 'CAUSE HE'S, UH, WE'RE LOOKING ALSO AT ABOUT THREE OTHER LOCATIONS IN TOWN TO TRY. THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO ACTUALLY HAVE MULTIPLE LOCATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO AND, AND A LOT OF THEM ON THE, UH, WEST SIDE, SOUTH SIDE OF SAN ANTONIO. AND THEN BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO I 35 AND BE ABLE TO GO, UH, GO, UH, NORTH THROUGH, UH, NEW BRAUNFELS AND SAN MARCO AND ALL THOSE AREAS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DELIVERY TRUCKS. AND THAT WAS, UH, KIND OF OUR CONVERSATION WHAT IT WENT LIKE. IT WENT, WHAT WENT LIKE, ALRIGHT, WELL LET ME, LET ME ASK A FOLLOW UP WITH RESPECT TO THAT. UM, SURE. SO JUST, AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST TO TRY TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW THIS LAND IS GONNA BE USED, UM MM-HMM. , YOU KNOW, ARE THESE VEINS BEING RETURNED EVERY NIGHT? ARE THEY BEING KEPT ELSEWHERE DURING, UH, THE KNIGHTS ARE, ARE THE LESSEES TAKING THEM? WHAT IS THE SITUATION THERE? OKAY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THEY WILL THEN BE TAKEN TO OTHER LOCATIONS. LIKE IF YOU RENT IN SAN ANTONIO AND IT'D HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER PART OF TOWN, IT WOULD GO TO ANOTHER PART OF TOWN. ARE THEY GONNA BE AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AT ALL TIMES? IT'S MORE MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, LIKE IT IS LIKE A ENTERPRISE CAR THAT YOU DROP IT OFF AND PICK IT UP AT CERTAIN HOURS AND, UH, WHEN THEY'RE OPEN. BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S MORE, BUT IT'S GEARED NOT TO CARS, BUT IT'S GEARED TO TRUCKS AND VANS. OKAY. AND SO ONE OF THE EARLIER QUESTIONS I ASKED WAS, YOU KNOW, APPROXIMATELY WHAT IS THE TIME PERIOD THAT THESE VANS ARE EITHER RENTED OR LEASED FOR, GENERALLY THEY'RE RENTED. UH, FIRST OF ALL, I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION. I DON'T KNOW SPECIFICALLY, BUT IN THE CONVERSATION IT WAS GENERALLY PEOPLE WOULD KEEP 'EM FOR, UH, UNLESS IT'S A SMALL, SMALL, COMPANIES WOULD KEEP 'EM FOR MAYBE A WEEK AT A TIME OR SO BIG COMPANIES LIKE AMAZON WOULD KEEP IT FOR, UH, LONGER PERIODS OF TIME. SO IT, IT, IT DOES VARY BASED ON THE, UH, COMPANY, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE, ARE RENTED. THE, PROBABLY THE BIGGEST ACCOUNT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS TO LIKE AMAZON AND THOSE, THEREFORE THOSE GUYS, IF THEY HAVE A [01:00:01] TRUCK OUT, THEY GOTTA MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ANOTHER TRUCK READY TO GO AND THEY GOTTA GO PICK UP THE TRUCK IN ORDER TO MAKE THEIR DELIVERIES. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MS. . UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? SEEING AND HEARING? NONE? ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND CHAIRMAN MCGEE, WE'RE COMING BACK TO YOU ANYWAY, SO GOOD. . OKAY. GOOD TIME. I'LL THERE THE QUESTION AND, AND MOVE TO THIS THE MOTION. SO I, AND JUST TO CLARIFY ONE MORE TIME, STEPH, SO, SO INDEED, UM, FOR THE TYPE OF, UM, BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE LEASING TO THAT THERE IS NO FORM OR FASHION OF C TWO THAT WORKS FOR THAT BUSINESS? UH, YES MA'AM. THERE IS C TWO CD WOULD WORK. MM-HMM. . OKAY. ALRIGHT. C ONE. OKAY. AND, AND THEN, UM, , I KNOW WE, WE'VE TALKED ON THE PHONE , BUT, UH, MR. ARDO JUST ONE MORE TIME. SO AGAIN, THE C TWO CD, UM, UH, I HELP ME AGAIN TO, BECAUSE C TWO HAS QUITE A FEW USES, SO IF THIS LEASE WERE TO END IN THREE YEARS, UM, WHY, WHY WOULDN'T C TWO WORK AGAIN? WELL, C TWO DOES WORK, MA'AM, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE, BUT THE USE BY RIGHT FOR AUTO RENTAL IS IN A C THREE IN THE U D C, BUT IT, IT IS A USE THAT CAN BE CONDITIONED DOWN AND TO THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT FOR THAT ONE PARTICULAR USE. AND THEN OF COURSE ALL OF THE OTHER C TWO USES WOULD BE PERMITTED AS WELL. ALRIGHT. UH, UM, UM, MR. REDONDO, UM, REMIND ME AGAIN WHY THE, UM, UM, I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT IF THE LEASE DOESN'T CONTINUE AFTER THE THREE YEARS, WHY, WHY WOULDN'T THE C TWO CD WITH ALL THE USES THAT ARE IN C TWO WORK FOR THIS PROPERTY? WELL, YOU KNOW, WOULD IT WORK? I, I GUESS WHAT CAT'S SAYING IT WOULD, UH, AND, AND KEVIN MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS YOU SAID THAT, UH, C TWO WITH A CD WOULD WORK AND, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY BIGGEST, ONE OF MY BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN DEALING WITH THE UNKNOWN DOWN THE ROAD IS THAT OUR WHOLE SOCIETY HAS CHANGED SO DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I HAVE NO, I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, BUT KNOWING THAT IF WE HAD C THREE RIGHT NOW, AND IF THESE THINGS CHANGED, WE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THE MARKETPLACE AT THAT TIME WITH WHAT WE HAVE. UM, ANYTHING DIFFERENT FROM THAT GOING DOWN THE ROAD MAY REQUIRE SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW. I JUST, UH, WISH THAT, UH, I HAD A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT I DON'T. SO, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE C THREE AND GIVEN, GIVEN THE, UH, UH, THE USE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND, AND THE COMMITMENT WE HAVE FOR, FROM A COMPANY THAT IS SO BIG, UM, TO BE ABLE TO STEP IN ON A SMALL PIECE OF PROPERTY IN AN AREA THAT HAS A NEED THAT WE COULD ATTRACT SOMEONE THAT BIG, UM, IT, IT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE TO 'EM. SO WOULD THEY BE, WHAT, WHAT WOULD, I MEAN, SO IF, IF THE C T C D WOULD STILL ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE THERE, SO WOULD THEY NOT BE ATTRACTED ANYMORE TO THE PROPERTY IF IT WAS, IF THEY HAD THE USE? YOU KNOW, I, YEAH, FIRST OF ALL, I, FIRST OF ALL, I, I, UH, I DON'T KNOW, ALL I, ALL I KNOW IS WE, WE'D MAKE SURE THAT WE'D HAVE TO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO COMMIT TO A LEASE THAT THEY KNOW WOULDN'T GO AWAY. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT 12 MONTHS AND ONE DAY RULE, BUT, BUT THAT CHANGE, I, YOU KNOW, THAT I DON'T KNOW. BUT WE WOULDN'T BE RESTRICTED TO A A, UH, IF THERE WAS ANY VACANCY THAT WHATSOEVER IN 12 MONTHS OF ONE DAY, IT COULD POSE A PROBLEM. UM, YOU MEAN THAT BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE LEASING TO COULD CHANGE THEIR USE IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE THREE YEARS SO THEY WOULDN'T BE LEASING TRUCKS ANYMORE? NO, NO, NO. UH, I'M SORRY, LEMME EXPLAIN, EXPLAIN THAT. LET, LET'S SAY THAT WE SWITCHED FROM FLUID TO ANOTHER, ANOTHER COMPANY AND THE OTHER COMPANY WANTED A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEAL, YET THEY'RE THE SAME TYPE OF USE. BUT IF THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A LEASE AND THE, THE LEASE EXPIRED, THE PROPERTY BECAME VACANT IN 12 MONTHS IN ONE DAY, AND THE LEASE THEN GOT KICKED UP, THEN WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE RIGHT ZONING FOR THE OTHER COMPANY TO COME IN. AND IT MAY BE FLUID WITH, WITH ANOTHER, UH, UH, UH, WHAT [01:05:01] DO YOU CALL IT, ANOTHER, UH, COMPANY ATTACHED TO THEM. AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. OKAY. I'M TRYING KNOW C TWO, C TWO C D I'M SORRY. I'M JUST TRYING TO FIND A BALANCE. SO, 'CAUSE THE DESIRE HERE IS C ONE AND THEN I'M, AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE DOWN FROM I ONE AND I'D LIKE TO ACCOMMODATE THE, THE CURRENT BUSINESS. AND, UM, BUT IF THE, THAT BUSINESS WERE TO GO AWAY, I WOULDN'T LIKE TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK TO UNDO IN THE AREA. SO THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING THAT, UM, YOU WOULD BE ACCOMMODATING TO PERHAPS THE C TWO C D CD, WHICH THEN STILL DOESN'T NEGATE THE, THE LEASE THAT IS, THAT'S SIGNED NOW FOR THE THREE YEARS IS MY THOUGHT. AND IF THEY DECIDE TO STAY FOR LONGER, THEY CAN STAY BECAUSE THEY'LL, UM, HAVE THE USE THAT THEY NEED FOR THAT PROPERTY. MA'AM, I'D LIKE TO ALSO CLARIFY, THIS IS CHRISTIE. OKAY. SO THERE'S A FEW THINGS IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT CONSIDERING C TWO, THAT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HAPPEN TODAY BECAUSE IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE, THAT'S ONE THING. THE NEXT THING WOULD BE IT WOULD NEED A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THAT. SO WE WOULD ALSO NEED TO DO A PLAN AMENDMENT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH C2, WHICH WOULD BE COMMUNITY COMMERCIAL. MM-HMM. AND SO FOR TODAY. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. IN THAT CASE, UM, WITH TWO DIFFERENT ANGELS ON EACH, UH, ONE , ONE ON EACH SHOULDER, I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE C THREE, UM, THAT IS BEING REQUESTED ON TODAY. ALRIGHT. THERE IS A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ON THE FLOOR. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND FROM JONES? A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? I, UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, AND COMMISSIONER S SIPES WILL GO IN THAT ORDER AND THEN PICK UP OTHER COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. UM, WITH REGARD TO MY COLLEAGUE AND THE CITY STAFF'S ATTEMPT TO, UM, REFORMULATE I GUESS THAT BUSINESS AREA AND ENCOURAGE OTHER TYPES OF BUSINESSES TO COME IN, I BELIEVE THAT PROBABLY C TWO WOULD BE A GREAT MEDIUM IN BETWEEN THOSE FORCES. I THINK THAT THAT BRINGS IN, UH, SOME OF THE BUSINESS TYPES THAT THEY MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR TO CHANGE, I GUESS THE FABRIC OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA. UH, SO I, I CANNOT SUPPORT, UH, A C THREE AT THIS TIME. I JUST THINK THAT INTENTS IS TOO FAR OUT OF WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UM, I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH THE IDEA OF TRYING TO WORK TO UNDO THE AREA AS COMMISSIONER DE UH, THE PE STATES. UM, I FIND THAT IN ORDER TO WORK TO UNDO THE AREA WOULD BE WORK WITH THE BUSINESSES AND, UM, HOW THEY CAN IMPROVE THEIR AREAS AND PROVE THEIR, UH, TYPE OF TRADE THAT THEY HAVE. UH, BUT NOT TO COME WITH A HEAVY HAND OF GOVERNMENT AND REZONE OUT OF NOWHERE WHEN IT CREATES A HARDSHIP. THEY ARE OPERATING BUSINESSES AND THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR QUITE A WHILE. THEY SEEM TO HAVE THE PATRONS, UH, THAT, THAT COME TO THEIR BUSINESS. UM, I THINK THE C THREE IS A LITTLE BABY STEP IN THE AREA THAT PERHAPS THAT COUNCILWOMAN AND AND ZONING COMMISSIONER WANT TO GO. I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO DO A LITTLE MORE WORK, UM, AS PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO GO OUT THERE AND WORK WITH THESE BUSINESSES IF WE'RE WANTING TO MOVE THEM IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I'M NOT FOR THE HEAVY HANDEDNESS OF A ZONING CASE ON A BUSINESS THAT'S TRYING TO SURVIVE IN A PANDEMIC TIME. SO I THINK THE C THREE IS A BABY STEP, AND PERHAPS THERE'LL BE SOME WORK ON THE PART OF, OF, UH, CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE AREA AND THE DIRECTION THAT THEY THINK IS MORE SUITABLE FOR ALL, AS LONG AS THERE'S BUSINESS FOR THAT TO BE HAD. UM, BUT I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION OF THE C THREE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER SIPES. YES. I CANNOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. UM, I ECHO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL SAID. UM, AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD MULTIPLE CASES THAT WILL CONTINUE FOR, IT SEEMS MONTHS AND MONTHS UNTIL WE GET TO A, A SOLUTION THAT WORKS. AND SO I THINK WITH THERE BEING AN ACTUAL SOLUTION THAT SEEMED [01:10:01] TO WORK AT C TWO CD, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE PREFERRED ROUTE THAT I WOULD GO, WHICH KIND OF ADDRESSES THE, THE DESIRES OF THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE DESIRES OF THE, UH, PLAN THAT HAD BEEN IMPLEMENTED. UM, SO AT, AT THIS POINT FOR A C THREE, I CANNOT SUPPORT THAT MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES. COMMISSIONER O'. YEAH, I'M KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE HERE. UM, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY, UH, THERE WASN'T MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT C TWO. UH, IN THE MEANTIME HERE, I'M NOT NORMALLY A BIG FAN OF CONDITIONAL USE ZONING. IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, UNNECESSARY TROUBLE SOMETIMES, AND I WANNA DEFER TO THE COMMISSIONER, BUT THE ANSWER ABOUT WHY WE COULDN'T GO TO C TWO CD SEEMED, UM, LARGELY SPECULATIVE. AND IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYTHING ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT IT WAS TO GET THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS KIND OF FELL APART. AND THEN IT WAS JUST ALL ABOUT, UM, WE JUST NEED TO GET ANYTHING IN THERE AND THAT'S HOW WE NEED THE C THREE. SO, UH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PART THAT MADE ME UNCOMFORTABLE. AND, UM, I GUESS I'M STILL NOT SURE WHICH WAY I'M GOING ON THIS ONE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER OAL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS DISCUSSION? UH, I, I TOO, UH, SHARE COMMISSIONER O'NEAL'S CONCERNS? UH, I THINK ON THE ONE HAND, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER GIVENNESS HAS A GOOD POINT. C THREE. WE HAVE AN A LESSEE READY TO GO, A LESSOR WHO WANTS TO DO IT. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, C THREE ALLOWS THAT. ON THE OTHER HAND, C TWO CD CERTAINLY SEEMS LIKE AN ADEQUATE RESPONSE, BUT IT'S NOT IN RANGE. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, I BELIEVE, IN NEW APP APPLICATION. AND EVEN THE C THREE OR C TWO CD, HOWEVER, SOUNDS LIKE IT STILL WOULD REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT. SO IT STILL SEEMS LIKE THERE ARE BURDENS, WHICHEVER WAY WE GO, UH, ON THIS MOTION. SO I LIKE COMMISSIONER O'NEAL, DON'T QUITE KNOW WHERE I'M GONNA END UP ON THIS AT THIS POINT. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION FROM ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRAU? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? NO. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. AND VICE CHAIR? MR. NO. MOTION PASSES. 7 2 4. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU MR. BUBO. [5. 20-5132 (Continued from 08/18/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700142 (Council District 3): A request for a change in zoning from "R-5 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District and "R-5 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Residential Single-Family Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District to "C-1 MLOD-3 MLR-1" Light Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 1 District and "C-1 MLOD-3 MLR-2" Light Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region 2 District on Lot P-10 and Lot P-11, NCB 10777, located at 4635 Sinclair Road. Staff recommends Denial. (Associated Plan Amendment Case PA2020-11600033) (Lorianne Thennes, Planner 210-207-7945, lorianne.thennes@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department) ] UM, MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PLEASE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO C ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 46 19 SINCLAIR ROAD, THERE WERE 23 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NINE IN OPPOSITION, NO RESPONSE FROM JUPI MANOR OR THE LOWER SOUTHEAST SIDE. AND ONE NOTICE WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS MID-BLOCK AND ZONING AND LAND USE IS IN THE AREA. ALONG THE SAME BLOCK ARE RESIDENTIAL STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? MR. CHAIR? UH, UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN HEAR YOU PLEASE. OKAY. UH, YES, MR. CHAIR. AND I'M MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION. UH, MY NAME IS NICHOLAS HARRIS. I RESIDE AT 4 0 0 7 DUN OAK DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 3. I ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE SAME DISTRICT AS THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT THAT, UM, WORKING WITH THE [01:15:01] OWNER. THE OWNER'S NAME IS, UH, JAMAN RIOS. AND HE, UH, PARTICULARLY HE OWNS ACTUALLY THREE OF THESE LOTS. UH, THE ONE THAT YOU JUST SAW A LITTLE WHILE AGO, THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN THE ONE THAT'S GOING, I GUESS WHAT I SAY, THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. UH, UH, I KNOW IT'S KIND OF DELAYED. SO THEY'RE SHOWING A LOT THE ADJACENT, UH, I ONE AND I TWOS THAT EXIST ON SINCLAIR ON OUR PARTICULAR PIECES OF LOTS. UM, IN A SHORT SUMMARY, WHEN WE FIRST WENT TO THE CITY, UH, BEFORE WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE ORIGINAL SCOPE AND THE DETAILS THAT WERE BEING GIVEN FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. SO WE DOING THESE TWO LOTS. UH, THE OWNER WAS, IT'S GOING BE CONSISTENT, WHAT'S WHICH TO THE PROPERTIES TO THE LEFT ARE TOWARDS W W ROAD. AND WE ACTUALLY WERE GONNA COME IN WHAT WE CALL WITH A C TWO, BUT THAT WAS, UH, ABANDONED. UH, AFTER WE HEARD THERE'S SOME CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR THE HOUSING AND THE RESIDENTIAL REAR OF, UH, THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE, JUPITER AND PAULA STREET, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S, UH, SEVERAL XS ON THE BACK, UH, THAT SHOWS A, A, I GUESS WHAT WE CALL THE REAR DIS, UM, THE REAR RESIDENTIAL. AND OF COURSE, ALL THE COMMERCIALS ACTUALLY ON SINCLAIR ROAD, UH, AFTER ING TO THOSE CONCERNS. AND, AND, UM, PLANES WERE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. WHEN BEFORE WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE DECIDED TO, UH, DOWNSIZE TO WHAT WE CALL TO LOW COMMERCIAL C ONE. AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. UH, GOING BACK TO C ONE, WE ARE IN AGREEMENT TO LIMIT NOW TO THIS DEVELOPMENT NO MORE THAN, UH, A BUILDING THAT'S ONE STORY, 25 FOOT IN HEIGHT AND NO MORE THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN, UH, IN DOING THAT, SO WE ALSO WERE THINKING OF HAVING ALL THAT, UH, ORIENTED TO SINCLAIR STREET, WHICH WOULD BE THE FRONT FLOOR WHERE THE CHECK MARK'S AT ON THE, ON THE SITE MAP THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. UH, WE'RE GONNA DEVELOP EVERYTHING TO SINCLAIR'S CURRENTLY TO THE LEFT OR TOWARDS THE RIGHT, THERE IS SOME C ONE, C TWO C THREE AREAS THAT INCORPORATE W WHITE AND SINCLAIR FROM THE LEFT STREET CORNER ALL THE WAY TO THE TWO PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY BE ADJOINING TO THESE, UH, C TWOS AND C THREES, UH, TO GO TO THE RIGHT TOWARDS LUKE FOUR 10. MR. RIOS ACTUALLY OWNS THE, THE THIRD LOT THAT'S IN QUESTION WHERE THE TRANSMISSION POWER LINES EXIST. BUT WE DECIDED TO LEAVE THAT AS IS, WHICH WE R FIVE ZONING TO CREATE WHAT WE CALL A BUFFER ZONE. UH, SO NO BUILTS OF RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL WILL WE UTILIZE BETWEEN THAT AND THE NEAREST RESIDENTIAL LOT GOING TOWARDS OUR, UH, LOOP FOUR 10, THEN THE, THE TRUS RESIDENTIAL OCCUPIED LOT GOING TOWARDS, UH, FOUR 10 ON SINCLAIR ROAD. THERE'S A GOOD FIVE TO SIX LOTS OVER, EVERYTHING'S CURRENTLY VACANT, UH, FULL OF GRA UM, OVERGROWN TREES AND ALL THAT GOOD STUFF. SO WE FIGURED THAT WOULD STILL BE A, A GOOD BUFFER AREA TO PROTECT THAT WAY. UH, SO AFTER GOING BACK AND AND DOWNSIZING TO THE C ONE, AND AFTER LISTENING TO THE DEVELOPMENT PEOPLE FROM THE REAR OF THE RESIDENTIAL PA AND JUPA, WE DECIDED JUST TO COME BACK IN. LIMITED TO THE C ONE LOW COMMERCIAL, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, LIMIT TO, UH, THE BUILDING, UH, BEING SINGLE STORY LESS THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET. UH, WE'RE GONNA CREATE WHAT WE CALL BUFFER ZONES. UH, EXTREME BUFFER ZONES, ACTUALLY, UH, WE'RE DON'T GONNA HAVE TO APPLY THE FRONT OF THOSE LOTS. AND WE SUPPLY THE PRELIMINARY, UH, PLA OR LIKE A SKETCH OF WHAT WE ENVISION TO DO HERE. UM, AS FAR AS THE USES, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING TOWARDS SOME HELP THROUGH, UH, UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TO SEE WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES WE CAN BRING IN HERE THAT WON'T IMPACT IT AS MUCH. UH, BEING WHAT WE CALL THE NOISE FACTOR, THE I ONE, THE I TWO, THE STORAGE, THE HEAVY TRAFFIC. UH, WE'RE LOOKING MORE AS, UH, SOME KIND OF A COMMERCIAL BUILDING THAT WE OCCUPIED. SOMETHING LIKE, UH, SIMILAR TO EITHER, UM, A DOCTOR OR A VISION OR HEALTHCARE CENTER OR SOMETHING, UH, WILL FIT, UH, MAYBE LIKE AN ELDERLY CENTER OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT. UH, NO HEAVY COMMERCIAL USE WHATSOEVER, UH, STORAGE AND MANUFACTURING AND SAFETY RECEIVING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 'CAUSE WE WANNA CREATE THE, THE ZONING TO BE COMPATIBLE TO KIND OF FIT AS, AS A TRANSITION FROM THAT C ONE, C TWO T ALL THE WAY TO THIS, LOTS TO THE C ONE AND THEN CREATE THE OTHER BUFFER ZONES. SO, UM, AFTER LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS, WE ACTUALLY POSTPONED THIS FROM THE LAST MEETING AND WE HAD OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK WITH, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SO THE NEIGHBOR AND THE PEOPLE THAT [01:20:01] WERE STILL IN OPPOSITION. AND, UH, WE JUST BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION THAT, UH, BASICALLY, UM, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DEVELOP COMMERCIAL C ONE. UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA CREATE WHAT WE CALL, UM, THESE EXTREME BUFFER ZONES AND, UH, WHAT WE CALL MORE STRINGENT CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS, SIMILAR TO, UH, A PIECE OF LAND RECENTLY DEVELOPED IN THE ROOSEVELT AREA. ACTUALLY, I BELIEVE IT'S ON MARCH STREET. SO WE KIND OF LOOKED AT THAT AND THAT WAS A GREAT PLAN, AND WE KIND OF FIGURED THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE WE'D LIKE TO DO HERE TOO. UH, WHEREAS ALL THE COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS WILL BE ORIENTED TO SINCLAIR, AND IN THE END, THERE'S NO EGRESS OR INGRESS OR NO SIDE STREETS AND LOCAL STREETS BETWEEN W W I AND TO NORTH. UH, I MEAN TO, UH, ROUTE FOUR 10 THAT ALLOWS ACCESS TO THOSE, UH, FRONT OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. BUT AGAIN, THEIR LOTS ARE TO THE REAR. BUT LOOKING AT THAT, UH, THERE WAS STILL SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY AND NOISE. AND, UH, AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE TO BE HONEST. UH, BUT WE FEEL THE NEED AND THEY CAN'T TEACH YOU SOMETHING GOOD FOR THIS AREA, A VIABLE COMMERCIAL BRINGING TO BRING SOME KIND OF BUSINESS TO THIS, UH, AREA THAT WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND IMPOSE UPON OURSELVES, WHAT WE CALL THE MORE STRINGENT, UH, CONSTRUCTION REQUIRES, SUCH AS WHAT WE CALL THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR CONSERVATION TYPE DISTRICTS OR ENABLING CORRIDOR DOOR DISTRICTS, WHERE OUR MATERIALS WILL BE SIMILAR TO WHAT'S, UH, USABLE IN THE AREA, YOU KNOW, TIN OR ALL THESE OTHER OBSTRUCTIVE OR ANESTHETIC LOOKING, UH, BUILDING, UH, HUGE BUFFER ZONES, UH, SECURITY. AND, UH, I THINK BY CODE WE CAN GO UP TO EIGHT FOOT A THERE OF CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE CAN STILL JUMP BY EIGHT FOOT FENCE. SO WE EVEN PUT IT OUT THERE THAT IF WE HAVE TO, WE'LL GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND SEE, WE CAN HAVE AN EXCEPTION TO THAT TO EVEN RAISE IT TO 10 FOOT, IF THAT, IF THAT'D BE THE CASE, PROVIDE, UH, WHAT WE CALL A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, MEANING THE DOWNLIGHT WILL BE ONLY UTILIZED DURING NORMAL HOURS AND THEN IT'LL BE TURNED OFF, AND THEN ALL THE SHIELDING WILL BE ONTO THE PROPERTIES ITSELF, NO ADJACENT PROPERTIES WHATSOEVER. UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THAT, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IN A NUTSHELL OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. UM, AND AGAIN, TRYING TO PLEASE ALL THE CONCERNED PARTIES, WE FELT IT WAS THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THESE IN FRONT OF THEM, WHICH WE DID. AND, UH, WE PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION STATING THIS IS THE KIND OF GAME PLAN WE WERE LOOKING AT, A PLANNING DEVELOPMENT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO IF FOR GRANTED THE CHANGE, WE'LL CREATE WHAT WE CALL A MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. WE'LL WORK WITH THE CITY CONSTRAINTS CITIZENS, AND WE'LL EVEN POSSIBLY DEVELOP WHAT WE CALL DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, GUIDELINES FOR OUR APPROVED PROGRAM AND DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR TWO LOTS. SO THAT WAY AND SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE THAT EITHER US OR OUR SUCCESSORS WILL, UH, MOVE AWAY FROM THE WHATEVER PLAN WE CREATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR AREA. OTHER THAN THAT, UH, UM, WE'RE JUST ASKING AND RESPECTFULLY ASKING THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION, UH, GRANTS OUR REQUEST TO A LOCAL COMMERCIAL SCHOOL ONE. THANK YOU. GREAT. THANK YOU MR. HARRIS. ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR. WE HAVE SOME VOICEMAILS AND SOME COMMENTS. VOICEMAIL. VERY GOOD. HERE COME THE VOICEMAIL. YES. HELLO. MY NAME IS B KIN AND I SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE JUPI MANOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ON AN INVITE. UM, BECAUSE I DO SIT ON THAT BOARD, I WAS, I ATTENDED A ZOOM MEETING ABOUT A ZONING CASE IN JUPI MANOR NEIGHBORHOOD REGARDING 4 6 1 9 SINCLAIR. THE PROPERTY, UH, OWNER WAS THERE, BUT HE WASN'T ABLE TO GIVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, UM, FOR ME TO SATISFY, UH, THE REASON THAT HE WANTED THE PROPERTY ZONE C ONE. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I'M NOT A, WELL, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT AS, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST FOR ZONING THIS PROPERTY AS A C ONE. SO, UM, SO MY, MY ANSWER IS NO TO THIS, UM, UH, REQUEST. AND AGAIN, I'M, MY NAME IS BGAN AND I'M CALLING FROM JUY MANOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UH, THANK YOU. HELLO, UH, MY NAME IS DONNA K I'M AT 26 0 8 JUPI DRIVE IN THE JUPI MANOR NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO THE 46 19 SINCLAIR, [01:25:01] UH, REZONING TO A C ONE. AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DO OPPOSE THAT DUE THE FACT THAT, UM, IT, UM, I DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY COULD BUFFER THAT ENOUGH. AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO OPENING UP REZONING TO THE REST OF THE AREA ON SINCLAIR, AND THERE'S A PORTION OF IT THAT BACKS UP TO A LOT OF HOMES ON TILLEY DRIVE. SO I, I AM OPPOSED, UH, TO THAT PARTICULAR REZONING, JUST, UH, DUE THE FACT THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THEY CAN BUFFER THAT ENOUGH FOR THE, UM, HOUSES IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BYE-BYE. THOSE WERE THE VOICEMAILS. THESE ARE THE WRITTEN COMMENTS. WE WOULD LIKE TO VOTE IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST FOR THE PROPERTY THAT IS NEAR OUR LOCATION AT 46 36 SINCLAIR ROAD. WITH US NOT KNOWING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF WHAT TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT IS PLANNING TO BE BUILT. WE DO NOT FEEL IT WOULD BE IN THE BEST INTEREST MOVING FORWARD. IF YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO US. BEST REGARDS, RICH FORSYTH OF TROOPER CLOSING. THIS ONE IS FROM 47 22 PAULA DRIVE. IT'S ERIC GARCIA WHO IS OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. IT'S COME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ATTENTION, THAT MOTION TO MAKE PROPERTY HAS BEEN CHANGED TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL AND OPPOSED TO THIS AS ORIGINALLY STATED WEEKS AGO, EVEN BEFORE KNOWING WHO THE APPLICANT IS ON FIRST MEETING WITH COMMITTEE NINE IN OPPOSITION, SENT IN LETTERS, AGREEING ALL, MOSTLY INALA DRIVE. PLEASE HOLD THIS DECISION. ANY COMMERCIAL PROPERTY BEHIND US IS A HARD OPPOSITION FOR ME AND MY NEIGHBORS. I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 10 YEARS AND BOUGHT MY PROPERTY KNOWING WHAT I WAS GETTING INTO, A PEACEFUL, SILENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. AS IT IS, INDUSTRIAL EQUIPMENT IS ALREADY HURT ACROSS ON SOUTH END OF ST. CLAIR ROAD. CONSTANT BUILDING ALARMS GO OFF ALL NIGHT AND NO ONE IS THERE TO TURN THEM OFF, HEARING THEM A THOUSAND FEET AWAY. APPLICANT STATED ON LAST MEETING WITH NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HE OWNS RESTAURANT, IT THEN OCCURRED TO ME THEN WHAT WE WILL BE GETTING INTO IF THIS ZONES DIFFERENTLY AND CONCRETE CONCRETED MY DECISION, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS APPLICANT HAS NOT BEEN PLEASANT AS HE HAS BEEN BUILDING SOCIAL COMMUNITIES AND NOW TRYING TO INTRODUCE THESE INTO OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA. WE, WE HAVE HEARD BACKHOE NOISES INTO OUR PROPERTIES COMING FROM THAT PROPERTY AND LOUD GROUP BAND MUSIC AT TIMES ALREADY FOR POLITICAL RALLIES, SO-CALLED SECURITY WILL NOT, WILL DO NO GOOD ALREADY IN HIS OTHER PROPERTY WHILE EATING THERE, MY 65,000 MILE VEHICLE WAS ATTEMPTED TO BE BROKEN INTO DAMAGING MY WHOLE DRIVER'S SIDE DOOR AND WINDSHIELD. I TRIED GETTING SECURITY SURVEILLANCE VIDEO, BUT NO RESULTS. JUST EMPLOYEES CHECKING ON THEIR VEHICLES AS A RESTAURANT OWNER MYSELF AND ALSO RESIDENTIAL CONTRACTOR DEALING WITH BUSINESS CAN BECOME OVERWHELMING. THANKS FOR YOUR ATTENTION, ERIC GARCIA. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. ALRIGHT, UH, THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, STAFF, THESE WERE READ BECAUSE THIS WAS A HOLDOVER FROM THE LAST MEETING, A CONTINUANCE, THESE NEW NOTICES. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, ALRIGHT, MR. HARRIS, ANY REBUTTAL? MR. HARRIS? REBUTTAL? UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU NOW. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. THERE YOU GO. UH, NOW, UH, BASICALLY, I MEAN, WE PUT ALL OUR, WE PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE THAT WE FELT THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL NOT ONLY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT, BUT FOR THE ADJOINING AREAS. SO, UM, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. SOME OF THESE WERE SENT OUT PRIOR TO OUR LAST HEARING, AND SOME OF THEM I THINK CAME IN RIGHT AFTER OUR LAST MEETING. BEFORE, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TWO OF THEM. BUT AGAIN, THOSE WERE, I THINK, THE OPPOSITIONS THAT WE SAW, OR WE STILL HEARD ABOUT THE SAFETY AND THE NOISE, WHICH AGAIN, I MEAN, UH, EVEN IF WE DON'T DEVELOP THEIR, THEY'RE STILL GONNA EXIST TODAY BECAUSE IT INDUSTRIAL AREAS [01:30:01] ARE ALREADY THERE. IN SINCLAIR, AGAIN, OUR, OUR GOAL WAS TO, AND AGAIN, I I SEE THE CONCERN WHERE THEY'RE SAYING WHAT'S GONNA BE THERE, AND I GUESS MAYBE THAT'S THE PART THAT WE'RE NOT TOO SURE ABOUT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE, WHAT CAN WE DO, WHICH SHOULD BE UNDER THE C ONE. AND WE WERE TOLD, UH, ANYTHING, UH, OR ORIGINALLY TOO, IT COULD HAVE BEEN A RESTAURANT, COULD HAVE BEEN A STRIP CENTER, COULD HAVE BEEN A MULTI DEVELOPMENT SIDE. BUT, AND LISTENING TO ALL THESE, UH, ISSUES PRIOR TO WE SAID, OH, WELL THIS IS DOWNSIDES TO WHERE IT COULD FIT MORE WITH THE OTHER USES THAT ARE IN PLACE NOW TOWARDS W Y WORLD, WHICH IS THE C ONE AND C TWO, BUT EVEN GO FURTHER DOWN TO THE C ONE, WHICH TO US WILL CREATE A GREAT TRANSITIONAL ZONING. AS FAR AS THE BUFFERING, I THINK, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A HOLD OF THIS PLANNED AREA THAT WAS DEVELOPED RECENTLY AND WE KIND OF FORWARDED THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA GIVE Y'ALL AN IDEA. I NOT ONLY, UNFORTUNATELY I ONLY GAVE THAT TO, UM, THE COMMISSIONER, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO INCORPORATING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT'S, IT'S GOT A GREAT BUFFER, GREAT LANDSCAPING, IT'S, UH, EVERYTHING ORIENTED TO THE MAIN STREET. AND, UM, WE JUST WANNA DO, UH, WHAT WE CAN BRING A VIABLE AND A A GOOD BUSINESS TO THIS AREA THAT'S NEEDED. IT'S JUST THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE, BUT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO, YOU KNOW, SHOVE IT DOWN THEIR THROAT AND SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA DO A BAR. WE'RE GONNA SELL ALL BEVERAGES, WE'RE GONNA DO A DANCE HALL, WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE SPECULATING AT THE BEGINNING, WHAT, WHAT ARE EXACTLY DOING. I SAID, ALL WE WANT TO DO IS CREATE A, A COMMUNITY AND A BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL ENHANCE THIS PARTICULAR AREA, ESPECIALLY AT SINCLAIR W W WIDE INTERSECTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MR. HARRIS. THIS IS A DISTRICT GROUP CASE, SO CHAIRMAN, HE THANK YOU COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. UM, SO, UM, MR. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE ASKED ABOUT, UM, THE LETTERS THAT WERE READ TODAY. THOSE WERE, THEY MIGHT HAVE, UM, SUBMITTED, I THINK MR. GARCIA SUBMITTED ONE LAST TIME, BUT HE SUBMITTED A NEW ONE TO MAKE SURE , BUT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW, UH, LETTERS IN OPPOSITION THE TIME BEFORE THAT WE HAD ALREADY SEEN. SO, UM, AND THEN I JUST HAD ANOTHER QUESTION TO STAFF AND BOY DID MY THOUGHT RUN AWAY SO FAST. UM, SO, UM, TO THE, UM, APPLICANT, SO WE, UM, LOOKED AT YOUR SITE PLAN AND YOU HAD WHERE YOU WERE GOING TO REPURPOSE AN EXISTING, UH, DWELLING THERE TO THE OFFICE AND THEN THE OTHER BUILDINGS THAT WERE GONNA BE ON THE PROPERTY WHERE THE UNKNOWNS, RIGHT? LIKE POSSIBLY IT WOULD BE A RESTAURANT OR YOU UNSURE. IS THAT CORRECT? NO, NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT. THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A RESTAURANT ANY LONGER, BUT I MEAN, THERE WAS STILL BUILDINGS THAT WERE UNKNOWN THOUGH, RIGHT. BUT THE OTHER BUILDINGS IT WAS UNKNOWN. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. OKAY, SO, UM, I, I THINK I JUST MOSTLY HAVE COMMENTS, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I'M JUST GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MY, UH, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MCGEE. UH, COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. I SEE, UH, TO THE APPLICANT, UH, SO YOU'RE JUST ZONING TO SEE THROUGH, YOU HAVE NO SPECIFIC BUILDING PLANS FOR THE TRACK? OH, RIGHT NOW, NOT FOR TRACK, WHAT WE CALL TRACK P AND I'VE GOT MY, I'VE GOT MY GLASSES ON. I BELIEVE IT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOT A CHECK BOX ON IT. THAT ONE WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY JUST LEAVE AS IS. UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S ALREADY A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE THERE THAT'S BEEN MOVED ONTO THE PROPERTY, BUT, UH, WE'RE GONNA JUST CONVERT THAT TO WHAT WE CALL OFFICE USE. OH ONE, WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW ALL THE BUILDING GUIDELINES AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES GUIDELINES TO CREATE AN OFFICE FOR THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY. AND THEN, UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA INCORPORATE, UH, NORMAL PARKING AND UH, MR. RIOS IS GONNA UTILIZE THAT AS WHAT THEY CALL HIS JP SERVICES. MR. RIOS OWNS A JP PAVING COMPANY DOWN IN SINCLAIR ROAD AND HE ALSO SIGNED HIS RESTAURANT UNDER W W Y. SO THINKING ABOUT MOVING ALL HIS PEOPLE THERE. OKAY, WELL I SEE AN R FIVE. SO WHY ARE YOU REFERENCING AN AN OH ONE ZONING? ARE YOU REZONING I'M CONFUSED. WELL, WE, WE INCORPORATED, WE INCORPORATED BOTH LOTS TO BE AS ONE AND THAT'S WHY THEY WERE BOTH ZONED R FIVE TO BEGIN WITH. SO WHEN WE MAKE THAT PROPOSAL TO CITY STAFF, UH, IT WAS 5.9 ACRES, I GUESS COMBINED FOR THOSE PARTICULAR [01:35:01] LOTS. WE LEFT THE THIRD LOT, UH, TO THE RIGHT, UH, ALONE THAT BELONGS TO MR. RIOS ALSO. WE LEFT THAT AS R FIVE AND JUST GONNA KEEP THAT AS WHAT WE CALL A BUFFER ZONE BETWEEN THAT AND THE REST OF THE RESIDENTIAL GOING TOWARDS, UH, ROUTE FOUR 10, UM, IN HIS MIND. AND I GUESS AFTER OUR DISCUSSION WITH THE CITY, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY HAVE UP TO THREE BUILDINGS, NO MORE THAN 25 FOOT IN HEIGHT AND NO MORE THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE 5.9 ACRES. SO REALIZING THAT THAT'S WHEN MR. RIOS DECIDED, WELL, THIS IS THE ONE HOUSE THERE AND JUST GO AHEAD AND CONVERT IT TO OFFICE USE, AND THEN WE'LL JUST DO THE OTHER TWO ADJACENT TO THAT AND THEN LEAVE THE REST OF IT TO THE BACK OF, OR, UH, BUT WE PLAN TOFL THESE ALL INTO ONE LOT. WELL, FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, I THOUGHT THEY'RE PLAN, THEY'RE, I THOUGHT THEY USED THEY'RE PRIVATE SEPARATE LOTS RIGHT NOW. CORRECT. AND THEN YOU PLAN TO REPL INTO ALL ONE LOT. MM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, I THOUGHT WHEN WE, UH, ASKED FOR THE ZONING FOR BOTH LOTS, THAT THAT WOULD BE THE, FOR BOTH OF THESE ZONING? WELL, YEAH, IT WOULD REQUIREMENTS IF THERE, IF THERE'RE ANY, 'CAUSE I THINK WHEN WE WENT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE JUST UTILIZED THE, THE STATEMENT THAT THESE TWO LOTS WILL BE, UM, BOTH ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER AND THEN THEY BOTH BE THE C ONE DESIGNATION. SO THAT WAY WE CAN, UH, INCORPORATE THE USES THAT WERE OUTLINED UNDER THE UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT CODE. OKAY. UM, I, LET ME, UH, LEMME HAVE A QUESTION TO STAFF THEN. UM, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY IS HE TALKING ABOUT AN OH ONE? IS HE PLANNING TO COME BACK ON AND I DON'T SEE A LEGAL DESCRIPTION ON THESE LOTS, BUT THE LOT WITH THE CHECK ON IT. IS HE PLANNING TO COME BACK AND REZONE THIS WHAT HE JUST ZONED TO? OH ONE. UH, SO I THINK WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION FROM MR. HARRIS. UM, YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT AN OFFICE LOCATED ON THE LOT THAT HAS A CHECK MARK OR, OR ONE OF THE LOTS IT, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE ASKING TO DO O ONE INSTEAD OF WHAT'S REQUESTED TODAY? C ONE? WELL, I THOUGHT UNDER THE ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO EITHER O ONE OR UM, C ONE THAT CORRECT. OH, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. UM, SO WHAT YOU THINK IS THAT YOU, UH, C ONE ALLOWS USES THAT ARE MOST USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIDING OH ONE, OKAY. CORRECT. SO THE REQUEST ON THE THE REQUEST ON THE FLOOR IS FOR C ONE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO IT LOOKS LIKE THE, THE TRACK WITH THE CHECK MARK IS GOING TO BE IN AN OFFICE, SO WE KNOW THE USE THERE. THE, THE LOVELY TRACK WITH ALL THE TREES. IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY PRETTY, PRETTY, UM, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE CURRENT PLANS FOR THAT, JUST WHATEVER FALLS IN THE C ONE. OH, THAT'S INTERESTING. WE'RE GONNA GO TO A, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. YOU HAVE A ROAD EASEMENT ON THAT TRACK. THAT'S INTERESTING. YEAH, YOU MIGHT WANNA REPL. OKAY, I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE. COMMISSIONER, I'M SORRY, CHAIR MCGEE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AND STAFF, UH, WELL I GUESS THIS IS THE QUESTION I MEANT TO ASK EARLIER, BUT WHEN, WHEN, UM, THE YOUNG LADY CALLED IN MS. KIN TO SAY THAT WAS OPPOSITION FROM JUPI MANOR, SO THAT DIDN'T COUNT WHAT IT HAD TO BE IN WRITING OR WHY, WHY WAS IT SET THAT THE JUPI MANOR THERE WAS NO RESPONSE. US THE, THE RESPONSES THAT WE USUALLY STATE FOR THE RECORDS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE WRITTEN PER THE NOTICE THAT WE SEND OUT THAT SAYS, SAYS WE HAVE TO RECEIVE EITHER THE SLIP OR A WRITTEN NOTICE BACK, WHETHER THAT BE EMAIL OR LETTER OR THE SLIP FROM THE PAPER THAT WE SENT. SO THE PHONE CALLS CERTAINLY NOW, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE OPPOSED, BUT IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE, WE KNEW OF AHEAD OF TIME NOR THAT WE WOULD'VE USED TOWARDS THE COUNT. SO THEY CALLED IN LAST WEEK. SO YOU'RE SAYING, SO IT, THEN IT'S BETTER FOR IT TO BE IN WRITING BASICALLY. WELL, LET ME JUST CLARIFY. IF THEY CALLED IN LAST WEEK, THEN IT'S PART OF THE RECORD AS PART OF THE MINUTES NOT MET PART OF THE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT, IT WAS NOT SHOWN THAT JUY BANNER WAS IN OPPOSITION, SO I'M CONFUSED. OH, RIGHT. SO IF THEY, THEY CALLED IN, IN OPPOSITION AT THAT MEETING, WHICH WAS PART OF THE RECORD, BUT OH NO, NOT, NOT [01:40:01] AS, NO, NOT, NOT AS, NOT AS PART OF THE, THE MEETING, BUT THEY CALLED IN AND LEFT A VOICEMAIL LAST WEEK. OH, OKAY. AND I BELIEVE WE PLAYED THAT ONE LAST AT THE LAST MEETING. NO, NO, NO, WE JUST PLAYED IT. NO, WE PLAYED IT. SO, SO, SO IT IT'S PART OF TODAY'S MEETING RECORDS. SO, SO, AND, AND JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION. SO IF I WERE TO EVER RECOMMEND FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, EVEN IF THEY CALLED IN, IF I THINK, LET'S SEE WHAT DAY WE HAVE OUR MEETING THURSDAY OR SOMETHING. SO, AND THEY PROBABLY CALLED IN FRIDAY, SO THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO BE NOTED FOR THE JUY MANOR BEING IN OPPOSITION, THE VOICEMAIL, SO NOT FOR TODAY, BUT FOR COUNCIL IT WOULD BE COUNTED AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATED ASSOCIATION IS NOT POSITIONED BECAUSE THEY PROVIDED A VOICEMAIL IN OPPOSITION. MM-HMM. , BUT THAT WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT NOT FOR TODAY BECAUSE WE, WE JUST GOT IT ON FRIDAY OR THUR, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY. RIGHT, OKAY. SO GOING FORWARD, SAY FOR THE MEETING, CORRECT? MM-HMM. . SO GOING FORWARD THEY SHOULD, ALL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS SHOULD SUBMIT IN WRITING, OTHERWISE IT WON'T GET NOTED UNTIL IT GOES TO COUNCIL. YES, IT SHOULD AND WE HIGHLY ENCOURAGE THEM AND EMAIL ANYTHING IN WRITING. SO IT'S PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD. UM, AND IT'S EASILY TRACKABLE. OKAY. THE, AGAIN, BECAUSE WE HAVE IT FOR TODAY'S MINUTES, IT WILL BE PART OF THE RECORD FOR CITY COUNCIL, AS IN THEY ARE, THEY'RE OPPOSED. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, FIRST I I, UM, LIKE TO SAY, UM, THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT, UM, THE APPLICANT, UM, THE OWNER AND HIS REPRESENTATIVE. I APPRECIATE, UM, THE NEIGHBORS OF JUPI MANOR, UM, WORKING TOGETHER TO TRY TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK. THERE WAS, BUT NOTHING WORKED . SO, BUT I, I REALLY WANT TO JUST REALLY COMMEND THEM FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY PUT IN, UM, ON THIS CASE. UM, THIS IS MID-BLOCK, IT IS CURRENTLY ZONE RESIDENTIAL. THERE ARE HOMES THERE SURROUNDING, UM, THERE IS, UM, QUITE A BIT OF, UH, OPPOSITION FROM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS. IT, TO ME IT APPEARS AS ENCROACHMENT. UM, DOESN'T APPEAR TO ME THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD BUFFER. AND ALSO THE FACT THAT IT IS SO MANY UNKNOWNS HERE, UM, THAT I WILL VOTE, UM, FOR A, I GUESS IS IT APPROVAL THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL. SO THEN , DO I SAY I VOTE FOR APPROVAL OF THE DENIAL ? IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? I BELIEVE THAT IT'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL. IT'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL. OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA KEEP THAT IN MY BRAIN FROM, FROM NOW ON. I MAKE A MOTION FOR DENIAL OF THIS CASE. SECOND WHO? ALRIGHT, THERE IS A MOTION FOR DENIAL ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER HUEY. UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, I SUPPORT THE, UH, COMMISSIONER'S, UM, COMPLIMENTS BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE APPLICANT FOR WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY. IT SEEMS TO TRY TO FIND SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE THERE, BUT I TOO FIND THAT SINCE THIS IS MID-BLOCK AND THAT THAT COMPLETE SIDE OF THAT STREET IS RESIDENTIAL, UM, I JUST FIND THAT I, I CANNOT BRING IN COMMERCIAL CREEP INTO WHAT IS BASICALLY A RESIDENTIAL SIDE, UH, NEIGHBORING A STRICTLY COMMERCIAL SIDE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE, THAT THE APPLICANT IS REZONING TWO LOTS, DECEIVE ONE. AND WHILE HE HAS THE BEST OF INTENTIONS IN TODAY'S TIME TO, TO ONLY WORK ON ONE OF THOSE LOT, THAT DOES NOT MEAN IN THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE THAT HE MIGHT NOT DECIDE TO SELL OFF THE SECOND MILE, WHICH WOULD ALSO HAVE C ONE AND THEN JUST, I GUESS OPEN THE DOOR TO FIRST FURTHER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THAT SIDE. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE. STAFF ROLL CALL VOTE. I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, DID YOU, WERE YOU RAISING YOUR HAND? JUST QUICK COMMENT. UM, OKAY. I'M OKAY WITH THE C ONE. I THINK THAT'S NOT A VERY NON-AGGRESSIVE, UH, BUT IN LOOKING AT YOUR TRACK, OUR, AND IT'S ALREADY RESIDENTIAL, MY ADVICE TO YOU IS YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER A REPL AND A REDESIGN AND PUT SOME RESIDENTIAL IN THERE. I THINK, UH, YOU'RE [01:45:01] SITTING ON A VERY NICE TRACK TO LAND AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHY YOU WANT THE C ONE. I'LL, I, I DON'T, I WON'T SUPPORT THE MOTION TO DENY IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD TRACK OF LAND AND RESIDENTIAL ALREADY. THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? STAFF ROLL CALL VOTE. MOTION FOR DENIAL ON THE FLOOR. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. AND VICE CHAIR BUSMAN AYE. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ONE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONERS, PRIOR TO GOING ON TO, UH, ITEM SIX, I WANTED TO NOTE THAT I'M PLANNING ON TAKING A BREAK AFTER ITEM SIX. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? DOES ANYONE NEED A BREAK RIGHT NOW? SEEING NONE, LET'S [6. 20-5133 (Continued from 08/18/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700151 CD (Council District 2): A request for a change in zoning from "C-3 MLOD-3 MLR-2" General Commercial Martindale Army Airfoeld Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region-2 District to "C-1 CD MLOD-3 MLR-2" General Commercial Martindale Army Airfield Military Lighting Overlay Military Lighting Region-2 District with a Conditional Use for an RV Park on 0.2941 acres out of NCB 10319, located at 2050 Rigsby Avenue. Staff recommends Approval. (Victoria Castro, Planner, (210) 207-2736, Victoria.Castro@Sanantonio.gov, Development Services). ] MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME LOCATED AT 2050 RIGSBY AVENUE STAFF, EXCUSE ME, THE EXISTING C THREE BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS NOT APP APPRO APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA SINCE IT'S INTENDED TO PROVIDE FOR MORE INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL USES THAN THOSE LOCATED IN N C C ONE OR C TWO BAY ZONING DISTRICTS. THE PROPOSED C ONE LIGHT COMMERCIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND THE LAND USE. THE PROPOSED CD CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF A RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARK, WHICH IS TYPICALLY ALLOWED BY WRIGHT IN THE L LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE CONDITIONAL USE ALSO ALLOWS CONSIDERATION FOR ANY CONDITION ON THE USE IF NECESSARY, SUCH AS FENCING, BUFFERING HOURS OF OPERATION, AND OTHER SIMILAR RESTRICTIONS. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE C ONE CD. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A CONTINUANCE AS THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FULLY COMPLETE THEIR SITE PLAN. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? I AM. OKAY. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND NOTE YOUR ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND, UH, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES I BELIEVE. OKAY, THANK YOU. MY NAME'S GLEN AUSTIN. MY, UH, CURRENT ADDRESS IS 1826 CANDLELIGHT LANE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 3. AND I WILL BE LIVING ON THE, UH, PROPERTY AT 2050 RIGSBY AS WELL. UH, AS FAR AS THE REASON FOR THE SITE, UH, SURVEY NOT BEING COMPLETED, THE SURVEY COMPANY THAT I HIRED TO GO OUT THERE AND SET THE PINS, THEY MISUNDERSTOOD. THEY THOUGHT I WAS ALSO HAVING A TREE SURVEY DONE FROM THEM, SO THEY WERE WAITING, UH, FOR THAT. SO THEY, THEY'VE, THEY'RE GOING OUT TOMORROW TO, UH, SET THE PINS AND THEN THAT WILL BE FORWARDED TO MY ENGINEER WHO WILL, UH, FINISH THE SITE SURVEY WITH A, UH, TREE SURVEY AS WELL. SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I CURRENTLY HAVE. OKAY. AND, UM, MR. AUSTIN, IS IT YOUR INTENTION TO SEEK, UH, AND TO REQUEST FROM THIS COMMISSION, UH, CONTINUANCE AT THIS TIME IN LIGHT OF THAT SITE PLAN ISSUE? YES, THAT'S WHY. YES, SIR. THAT'S MY REASON OF THE, UH, THE, UM, CONTINUANCE AND THE REQUEST FOR, UH, I JUST NEEDED ANOTHER COUPLE OF WEEKS TO FINISH UP THE SITE SURVEY. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. AUSTIN. UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS? THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I DIDN'T MENTION THE COUNT. IT WAS 15 NOTICES MAILED NONE IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THERE WAS ONE NOTICE RECEIVED OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET THAT WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND I HAVE THAT HERE TO READ IF YOU WOULD LIKE. SURE. OKAY. UM, ARE WE UNDER THE NEW RESOLUTION FROM LAST MEETING? YES, WE ARE. OKAY. [01:50:04] IS THERE A MOTION FROM ANY COMMISSIONER TO READ THE OPPOSITION? MAKE A MOTION TO READ THE OPPOSITION. SECOND. ALRIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION TO READ THE OPPOSITION. UH, MY UNDERSTANDING OF THE RESOLUTION IS THAT THAT REQUIRES A MAJORITY OF THE COMMISSIONERS TO CONCUR. SO STAFF, IF WE COULD HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE OR, OR A CORRECTION. COMMISSIONER GR YES. YES. UH, COMMISSIONER GREYHOUND? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMUS? YES. COMMISSIONER LEE. AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SY? YES. COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. AND UH, CHAIR MR. ? AYE. OKAY. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT, IF WE COULD HEAR, UH, OR READ THAT COMMENT PLEASE. OR READ WHATEVER COMMENTS ARE AVAILABLE. YES SIR. THIS IS FROM JOHN SUNDALE. I RESIDE AT 2046 RIGSBY AVENUE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 1 0 SINCE APRIL 2ND, 2010. WITH THAT PART OF BRISBY AVENUE, HAVING A NEW BRIDGE, NEW SIDEWALK IN COMANCHE PARK AND EIGHTH OF A MILE AWAY, SEEMS LIKE A TRAILER PARK WOULD BRING DOWN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR, OF THE AREA. DOUBT ANY SITE SEARS WOULD APPRECIATE SEEING A TRAILER PARK ON THEIR WAY TO A PICNIC OR OTHER PARK EVENT. ALSO, THE LOT IS VERY SMALL. SEEMS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF BE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING. IT WOULD, IT WOULD HELP TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MORE APPEALING AND KEEP WITH THE APPEARANCE OF THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD SINCE THERE ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES ALL AROUND FED PROPERTY. AND WHAT ABOUT CRIME AND DRUGS THE TRAILER PARK BRING? ISN'T THERE ENOUGH CRIME AND DRUGS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD? AND WHAT ABOUT MY PRIVACY AND MY NEIGHBOR'S PRIVACY, IMPOSING IS THE BEST WORD I CAN THINK OF. IF A TRAILER PARK WERE NEXT DOOR, MYSELF WOULD APPRECIATE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND WOULD BE AGAINST TRAILER PARK APPROVAL. I'M ASKING CITY COUNCIL REZONING, REZONING, HEARING MEMBERS TO DENY THE REZONING APPLICATION. THAT'S ALL I HAVE, MR. CHAIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. MR. AUSTIN, WOULD YOU LIKE ANY REBUTTAL? JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETIMES, AND I'VE TALKED WITH PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS EXCEPT HIM AND HE'S RIGHT NEXT DOOR, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK HE'S CONFUSED. IT'S ACTUALLY AN RV PARK, NOT A TRAILER PARK. SO THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK HE'S THINKING MOBILE HOMES AND THIS WILL BE A NICE SMALL, NICE COMMUNITY. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE LIVING THERE SO I'M GONNA MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS, IS CLEAN AND NICE. UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'M A I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS. UH, PREVIOUS TO THAT I WAS IN BANKING. I WORKED FOR BANK ONE AS VICE PRESIDENT OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT. SO I HAVE A GOOD, GOOD CLIENTELES THAT ARE GONNA BE GOING IN THERE. AND, UH, ON THE, THE STREET OVER IS, IS, UH, CALLED AMITY. AND I'VE MET WITH ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET AND EVERYBODY, UH, WAS WAS FOR IT. IN FACT, I ACTUALLY HAD A COUPLE OF, UH, FAMILY MEMBERS THAT ARE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYTHING GOES THROUGH, THEY WOULD LIKE TO TO LIVE THERE AS WELL THAT I'VE INTERVIEWED AND TALKED TO. SO I THINK IT'LL BE GREAT FOR THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'LL BRING THE VALUE UP TOO. IT'S GONNA BE A NICE, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, CLEAN RV PARK AND AGAIN, I'LL BE LIVING THERE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS, IS NICE. THANK YOU. MR. AUSTIN, UH, THIS IS A DISTRICT TWO CASE, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES, I HAD A QUESTION FOR MR. AUSTIN. YES. WOULD, UH, WILL YOU NEED TWO WEEKS CONTINUANCE OR PROBABLY FOUR FROM MY UNDERSTANDING ENDING, YOU KNOW, I JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE, FOUR WOULD PROBABLY BE GOOD JUST IN CASE. UH, MY ENGINEER, HE'S, HIS NAME'S LAUREN DRUM AND HE'S, HE'S, UH, WORKED WITH THE CITY FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS, SO HE'S, HE'S PRETTY BUSY, BUT, UH, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST THINKING MAYBE FOUR, YOU KNOW, JUST IN CASE TO MAKE [01:55:01] SURE HE HAS ENOUGH TIME TO FINISH UP THE SITE PLAN. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, COULD YOU ALSO, COULD YOU TAKE THE TIME TO GO BACK TO THAT NEIGHBOR AND ASK HIM AND, AND TRY TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A RV PARK AND A, AND A TRAILER PARK? SURE, YOU BET. UM, YEAH, I DEFINITELY WILL. SURE. HE, HE'S HARD TO GET AHOLD OF. HE HAS HIS PROPERTY ALL LOCKED UP. UM, AND HE'S HE'S GOT SECURITY CAMERAS EVERYWHERE. SO I'VE TRIED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF HEY, BUT HE'S HARD TO CATCH. HE'S NOT OUTSIDE MUCH. UH, MAYBE, MAYBE IN FACT, MAYBE I'LL MAIL HIM A LETTER OR SOMETHING. I GUESS THAT MIGHT BE THE BEST WAY TO GET IN CONTACT WITH HIM. BUT YEAH, I'LL DEFINITELY TRY TO DO THAT TO EXPLAIN TO HIM. AND I KNOW HE'S NOT A, UH, HE'S, HE'S JUST A RENTER, SO HE'S NOT ACTUALLY A, UH, HOMEOWNER, BUT, UM, BUT I'LL STILL TRY AND GET AHOLD OF HIM BY MY LETTER IF I CAN TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BETTER DETAIL WHAT THE PROPERTY WILL BE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MS. DOON CHAIR. YOU BET. COMMISSIONER JONES, ANYTHING FURTHER? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, TO THE APPLICANT? SO ALONG RIGSBY NEXT TO YOU IS A C THREE. IS THAT A BUSINESS OR IS THAT A BUSINESS, DO YOU KNOW? YES, YES IT IS. WHAT, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS? UM, THE ONE NOW, WHICH THERE'S A CAR LOT. IS THAT THE ONE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? THERE'S A, UH, CAR LOT AND THEN ONE, TWO HOUSES OVER. THERE'S THE ACTUAL A, UH, EMBROIDERY, UH, SIGNS THAT HE SIGNS AN EMBROIDERY TYPE OF, UH, OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE, SO I GUESS IT'S A IN-HOME BUSINESS? YES. DOES SOMEBODY LIVE THERE OR WHAT? UM, THEY, YES, THEY, I THEY HAVE IT FROM, I THINK IF I'M CORRECT, WITH THE ONE THEY TALKED ABOUT, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE SMALL RESIDENTIAL, UM, OFFICE KIND OF IN THE BACK THAT THEY WORK OUT OF. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE THE, THE RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS HOW HOME AS WELL. OKAY. SO THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UH, CLEAR THE LOT. SO A LOT OF THESE TREES WOULD PROBABLY BE GONE. ARE YOU REPLANTING TREES? ARE THERE AMENITIES THAT YOU'RE PLANTING ON THE RV PARK? NO, THE TREES, MY ENGINEER, HE THINKS WE CAN KEEP ALL OF THEM. UH, THE WAY HE'S, HE'S UH, FIGURING OUT THE FIGHT PLAN, HE'S GONNA HAVE 'EM IN DIFFERENT ANGLES. UH, SO BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL OAK TREES, SO, YOU KNOW, HE WAS TELLING ME THAT IT'S REAL IMPORTANT TO SAVE THOSE NOW BECAUSE OF THE, THE PAST, UM, OAK TREES DISEASE THAT HAVE BEEN IN. SO THAT'S WHY HE'S ACTUALLY GONNA COME UP WITH A TREE SURVEY AS WELL. OKAY. BUT HE THINKS WE CAN, HE THINKS HE CAN WORK WITH ALL THE OAK TREES THAT ARE ON MY PROPERTY. AND HOW MANY RVS WOULD BE PARKING OR THAT YEAH, WE'RE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, IF IT WAS COMPLETELY FULL IT WOULD BE NINE. UM, THERE'S, I HAVE LIKE THREE OR FOUR SENIORS THAT, UM, ARE ALREADY WANTING TO, TO MOVE IN THERE AND THEY WOULD BE LIKE ON A MONTHLY BASIS. AND THEN I WOULD HAVE SOME THAT WOULD COME IN, UH, THAT WOULD BE VISITING, LIKE A LOT OF THEM COME IN TO VISIT THE ALAMO AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND JUST STAY FOR, YOU KNOW, A WEEK OR SOMETIMES EVEN LESS THAN A WEEK. BUT, SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PLAN ON HOW THAT, THAT WOULD WORK. SO SOME RESIDENCES WOULD BE PERMANENT, BUT TEMPORARY? YES. SOME OF 'EM, LIKE I HAVE CURRENTLY, I HAVE ACTUALLY FOUR THAT WOULD LIKE TO STAY THERE PERMANENTLY, UH, AND BE ON A MONTHLY BASIS, SO. OKAY. AND, AND IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY REASONABLE FOR THEM. UM, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S BASICALLY 450 A MONTH AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, ALL BILLS PAID PLUS INTERNET AND CABLE. SO IT'S, IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING TOO FOR THEM AS FAR AS THE SENIOR. SO, UH, OKAY. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO, UM, THE, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THIS. I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION THEN FOR STAFF. UM, UH, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT U D C CODE ON RV PARKS. ARE THE RVS ALLOWED TO HAVE PERMANENT RESIDENTS THERE AS LONG AS THEY'RE IN AN R A MOBILE TYPE RV? IS THAT HOW IT'S LOOKED AT? UH, YES. THERE IS, UH, A CITY CODE REQUIREMENT RELATED TO, UM, MOBILE, UH, LIVING PARKS AND, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES OVERSEAS THAT, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO MEET THE, ALL OF THE CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR MOBILE LIVING PARK, BUT UH, THESE ARE ALLOWED SO LONG AS THEY [02:00:01] MEET CODE. OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MA'AM. MR. CHAIRMAN. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? SEEING NONE AND HEARING NONE. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTIN FOR CONTINUANCE UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER. ALRIGHT, SECOND. SECOND. ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER, UH, KMA IS THE SECOND. UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS. ALRIGHT, THE MOTION IS FOR A CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 6TH AND THERE IS A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ROLL CALL VOTE. STAFF COMMISSIONER GROFF? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. COMMISSIONER? UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE? YES. VICE CHAIR ANTE. AYE. MOTION PASSES. 11 TO ZERO. OKAY. AS I MENTIONED PRIOR TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, I THINK NOW IS A GOOD TIME FOR A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. UM, WE WILL COME BACK AND PROCEED WITH ITEM NUMBER NINE. THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 3 0 2. WE WILL STAND IN RECESS TILL 3 0 7. THANK YOU. HEY, WE ARE LIVE. ALRIGHT, [9. 20-5039 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700172 S (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "C-2 UC-3 AHOD" Commercial Fredericksburg Road Urban Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District to "C-1 S UC-3 AHOD" Light Commercial Fredericksburg Road Urban Corridor Airport Hazard Overlay District with a Specific Use Authorization for a Alcohol - Bar and/or Tavern Without Cover Charge 3 or More Days Per Week on Lot A, Block 35, NCB 1937, located at 1703 Fredericksburg Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Mercedes Rivas, Senior Planner, (210) 207-0215, Mercedes.Rivas2@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department) ] UH, WE STOOD IN RECESS AT 3 0 1. THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 3 0 9. UH, WE ARE BACK IN OPEN MEETING AND PROCEEDING WITH ITEM NUMBER NINE. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. ITEM NUMBER NINE AS A REQUEST TO REONE FROM C TWO U C THREE A H O D TO C ONE F U C THREE A H O D WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR AN ALCOHOL SLASH BAR AND OR TAVERN WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK. LOCATED AT 1703 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. 10 WERE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE OF THE 200 NOTIFICATION AREA. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET. JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM KEYSTONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND MONTICELLO PARK, WHICH IS OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET, IS IN OPPOSITION. THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE PROPOSED C ONE S IS ALSO APPROPRIATE ZONING, IT STILL ALLOWS COMMERCIAL USE BUT LIMITS THE BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET OR 15,000 SQUARE FEET. AGGREGATE. THE REQUESTED SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION WOULD ALLOW FOR A BAR AND OR TAVERN WITHOUT COVER CHARGE THREE OR MORE DAYS PER WEEK. THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION ALSO LIMITS THE PROPERTY AND BUILDINGS TO SUBMITTED SITE PLAN. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? IAN, ARE YOU ON THE LINE? THAT'S MA'AM. ALRIGHT. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. SO SIR, YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES. SORRY SIR. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF, STATE YOUR UH, ADDRESS AND AS THE STAFF MENTIONED, WE HAVE 10 MINUTES. UH, YES, MY NAME'S IAN COCHRANE. I RESIDE AT 25 23 OLD TRAIL STREET HERE IN TOWN. OKAY. MR. COCHRANE, PLEASE GO AHEAD. OH, OKAY. SO I WORKED FOR THE COMPANY THAT IN FACT OWNS THE PROPERTY. UM, WE PURCHASED IT ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO AND THE BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERGONE A RENOVATION TO THE EXTERIOR, UM, USED TO BE THE OLD GOLD SHOWS GYM. SO WE'VE RENOVATED, NOW IT'S IN THE SHELF CONDITION. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO MARKET THE PROPERTY FOR VARIOUS BUSINESSES OVER THE COURSE OF THE TIME THAT WE'VE, UM, HELD OUT THE RENOVATION AND WE HAVEN'T REALLY HAD MUCH LUCK GETTING INTEREST IN IT. IT'S KIND OF, UM, A DIFFERENT AREA OF TOWN THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE FOUND. DON'T EXACTLY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE DECKER DISTRICT IS AND WHAT KIND KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CONTENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN THERE. UM, WE ACTUALLY PURCHASED THE DECK PIZZA BUILDING AS WELL AND WE'RE UNDERGOING AN EXTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT BUILDING RIGHT NOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT MAYBE, BUT IT LOOKS FANTASTIC. UM, SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS JUST KIND OF REVITALIZE THE AREA AND JUST BRING SOMETHING NEW TO THE AREA THAT WE FEEL OF A COMMUNITY IS IN FACT SUPPORTIVE OF AND HAS DESIRE TO PURSUE THERE. SO I'M HERE RIGHT NOW. [02:05:01] I'M ALSO WITH AMELIA . SHE IS THE PERSPECTIVE TENANT TO OPERATE THE BUSINESS WITHIN THE BUILDING. AND UM, SHE KIND OF HAS A BUSINESS MODEL HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OPEN TO, UM, ASK QUESTIONS AND JUST KIND OF GET YOUR FEEDBACK AND ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE FOR US, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER THEM. OKAY, THANK YOU MR. COCHRAN. AND I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY THE TENANT'S NAME? I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THAT. I'M SORRY. WHAT WAS THE TENANT'S NAME? THE PROSPECTIVE TENANT'S NAME? OH, IT'S AMELIA NUNEZ AND JACOB ZO. HE'S ACTUALLY THE OPERATOR OF THE DOUBLE PIZZERIA THAT'S JUST UP THE ROAD ON REDERICK PROBE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE STREET. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, THANK YOU MR. COCHRANE STAFF. IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR. I HAVE SEVERAL COMMENTS TO READ AND I'LL GET STARTED IF YOU LIKE. YES, PLEASE. HI, MY NAME IS ART REYES. I LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM 3,700 FREDERICKSBURG. I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE FOR CASE 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 7 2. THAT WAS FROM ARTURO. THIS ONE'S FROM RENA. THE CONSENSUS FROM THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BOARD IS IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST. THE FOLLOWING CONCERNS ARE NO TO A BAR AND OR TAVERN DOES NOT FIT EITHER THE NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN NOR THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD. PLAN OF FAMILY-FRIENDLY BUSINESSES SUGGEST A RESTAURANT SLASH BAR WHERE FOOD AND APPETIZERS ARE SERVED. MODELED AFTER DECO PIZZERIA PARKING A CONCERN WITH THE OVERFLOW OF PARKING ADJACENT TO SINGLE AND MULTI-FAMILY HOMES WITH NO BUFFER. THE ZONING REQUEST WAS RECEIVED AUGUST 21ST, 2020. IT IS A VERY SHORT TURNAROUND TIME FOR A REVIEW AND REPLY. IT'S A MATTER OF BEING ALLOWED SUFFICIENT TIME TO REVIEW AND MAKE AN EDUCATED DECISION. THE DEVELOPER PROVIDED NO IN-DEPTH DETAILS AND OR PRESENTATION TO US RECOMMENDED BY THE BY THE CITY ANYTIME A DEVELOPMENT IS IN THE WORKS. THANK YOU. ELIA REYNA, CO-PRESIDENT OF JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. MY NAME IS JAMES DAVIS AND I LIVE AT 2230. MARY LOUISE DRIVE IN MONTICELLO PARK. I'M ALSO ON M P N A BOARD, BUT I AM REPRESENTING MYSELF AND ASKING THAT YOU APPROVE THE REZONING REQUEST. I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE ANOTHER NEW BUSINESS ON FRED ROAD AND HOPEFULLY MORE PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW AND WE WE COULD BRING FRED ROAD BACK TO LIFE. JAMES DAVIS, DIVISION SALES MANAGER AT OLIVER WINERY. JOHN RICE. I WANTED TO EMAIL MY SUPPORT Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 72 REZONING. I LIVE AT 2 46 EAST SUNSHINE 7 8 2 2 8 AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR EIGHT YEARS THIS OCTOBER. I UNDERSTAND THERE COULD BE A COCKTAIL LOUNGE AT THIS LOCATION, WHICH I THINK IS NEEDED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAD A 19 YEAR CAREER DOWNTOWN AND LIVED IN ALAMO HEIGHTS FOR 15 YEARS. BOTH HAD EASY ACCESS TO COCKTAIL BARS, WHICH HAS A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CLIENTELE THAN A BAR. THERE IS NO COCKTAIL BAR CLOSED IN 7 8 2 2 8 ZIP CODE OR SURROUNDING ZIP CODES THAT PROVIDES THIS SERVICE. THAT MEANS I AM CONSTANTLY LEAVING MY NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY TO SPEND MY MONEY. PLEASE ALLOW THIS PROJECT TO PROCEED. I AM RESIDENT. I AM A RESIDENT IN THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M WRITING TO ASK YOU, I'M WRITING YOU ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THE ZONING CHANGE FOR JACOB VENEZUELA FOR THE PROPERTY ON FREDERICK FORD ROAD. I UNDERSTAND HE WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE A BUSINESS THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE COMMUNITY WITH COMRADERY AND FELLOWSHIP. THE BUSINESS WOULD PROVIDE A PLACE FOR RESIDENTS TO MEET UP AND VISIT WITH EACH OTHER AND ENJOY SOME LIBATIONS. ESPECIALLY AFTER C OVID 19 TIME. OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY HAS TOO MANY CELLULAR BUSINESSES AND PAWN SHOPS. IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE A PLACE TO ENJOY EACH OTHER'S COMPANY BY ENJOYING LIBATIONS AND HIGHLIGHTING LOCAL ARTISTS, ART ARTIST, MUSICIAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. MARGARET EZ AT 3 29. MARY LOUIE. THIS ONE'S FROM MINA RIVERA. I SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE ABOVE CASE, WHICH IS REFERENCED AS NUMBER 1 72 AND MS. RIVERA LIVES AT 1617 WEST MAGNOLIA AVENUE. MY NAME IS DR. ZUKE ALEMAN JR. AND I RESIDE AT 1630 WEST ATCH AVENUE. ALONG WITH MY WIFE [02:10:01] DR. SONYA ALEMAN AND FAMILY, WE'RE WRITING TO REQUEST THAT REZONING BE ALLOWED FOR THE PROPERTY REFERENCED IN THIS CASE NUMBER ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD. WE HAVE RESIDED IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OVER FIVE YEARS AND CONTINUE TO LOVE THE LOCATION PEOPLE AND COMMUNITY. ALTHOUGH IT STRUGGLES TO ATTRACT SMALL BUSINESSES, WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE COMMUNITY LEADERS AND LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS WHO REALLY CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND HAVE PUT THEIR INVESTMENTS HERE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS A REQUEST TO OPEN A LOUNGE WITH WINE TASTING AND WHISKEY AT THIS LOCATION. HOWEVER, A ZONING CHANGE IS NEEDED. BOTH OF US ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT THIS CHANGE AND ARE HOPEFUL THAT THIS WILL CONTINUE TO ATTRACT THE DIVERSITY OF BUSINESSES THAT FURTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NEEDED AND WANTED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS PROFESSORS, ME AND MY TRINITY, ME AT TRINITY UNIVERSITY AND SONIA AT U T S A DOWNTOWN. WE ALSO KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT THAT LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO START NEW VENTURES AND THAT, AND IT IS THESE VENTURES THAT BRING LIFE'S BUSINESS CULTURE TO THE DECO DISTRICT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. AND WE AND SONYA ALAMAN ALMAN, THIS ONE IS FROM ANN-MARIE GROUP. MY HUSBAND AND I ARE WRITING THIS EMAIL IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE FOR THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION 1703 FRIBERG ROAD AS LONGTIME RESIDENCE OF THE MONTICELLO NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE EXCITED TO SEE THIS PROPERTY BECOME A NEIGHBORHOOD GATHERING PLACE. IT IS LONG TIME DUE AND WE LOVE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TO THE BUILDING SO FAR. PLEASE CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THIS REQUEST. AND THAT'S ANN MARIE AND GARY PURCHASE AT 2136 WEST SUMMIT. I, JASON VALENZUELA SUPPORT THE ZONING CHANGES. I RESIDE AT 2209 WEST ALMOS DRIVE. THANK YOU. AS A RESIDENT OF MONTICELLO PARK FOR OVER A DECADE. WE ARE WRITING TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE ZONING CHANGE FOR CASE Z 20 21 0 701 72. BOTH MY DAUGHTER AND I HAVE MADE THIS COMMUNITY OUR HOME AND OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR CHOSEN FAMILY LIVING A BLOCK AWAY FROM WOODLAWN LAKE ON MISTLETOE AVENUE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO MANY CELEBRATIONS WITH OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS. NEW DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS THIS ONE WE'LL ONLY ENHANCE, ATTRACT OTHER RESIDENTS CHOOSING TO MAKE DECO DISTRICT THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN HELP, WE CAN DO TO HELP FACILITATE YOUR DECISION, PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. CHRISTINA BAZO AT 2239 WEST NITO AVENUE. THIS ONE IS FROM MARISA BONNO. I'M A RESIDENT OF MONTICELLO PARK AND LIVE AT 27 0 9 WEST CRAIG PLACE WHERE I HAVE LIVED OVER A DECADE. I ALSO HAVE A SALE PENDING FOR THE RESIDENCE AT THREE 18 FUR. I AM RAISING MY EIGHT YEAR OLD SON IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND HE ATTENDS AN S A I S D SCHOOL FOR THE PANDEMIC. I WAS A MEMBER OF THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN THE WOODLAWN LAKE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION. I'M WRITING AND STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE ZONING CHANGE FOR K C 20 21 0 7 0 1 72. MY SON TAKES KARATE LESSONS AT THE DOJO ACROSS THE STREET THREE TIMES A WEEK. SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE ADDRESS AND AREA. I THINK THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR THE DECO DISTRICT AND THEREFORE BENEFICIAL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AS A RESIDENT, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE AN OPTION TO TAKE MY BUSINESS TO A NEIGHBORHOOD VENUE INSTEAD OF TO OTHER LOCATIONS CLOSE TO DOWNTOWN. THANK YOU AND FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME, MARISSA ONO. WE HOPE OUR MESSAGE FINDS YOU IN GOOD HEALTH. RECENTLY, MEMBERS OF THE MON MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, WERE CONTACTED BY THE LEADERS OF THE JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REGARDING REZONING OF WHAT THE LOCALS ALL KNOW AS THE OLD JOE JOE'S GYM PROPERTY ON THE FREDERICKSBURG ROAD BUSINESS CORRIDOR. THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN EXTENSIVELY RENOVATED IN RECENT MONTHS, WHICH PLEASES THE RESIDENTS IN OUR ASSOCIATION. WHAT DOESN'T PLEASE US, HOWEVER, IS A RECENT REQUEST TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM C TWO TO C ONE S U C THREE A PROPOSAL, WHICH IF APPROVED, WOULD ALLOW A BAR TAVERN TO BE LOCATED ON THE PREMISES. THIS BUILDING IS OUTSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE MP AND A YET WE FELT IT IMPORTANT TO SHARE OUR BOARD'S CONCERN ABOUT THE LOCATION OF A BAR ALONG THE CORRIDOR AND ADJACENT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD WE LIKE THE J AND A HAVE AN ESTABLISHED PRECEDENT OF OPPOSING SIMILAR ZONING PROPOSALS THAT WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE MONTICELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS LOCATION. THE BUILDING'S PARKING LOT IS SMALL, MEANING BAR PATRONS WOULD LIKELY PARK ON THE ADJOINING STREET. HAVING [02:15:01] SEEN THE CONFLICT THAT HAS PERSISTED IN OTHER SAN ANTONIO NEIGHBORHOODS WITH BARS IMMEDIATELY ADJOIN ADJACENT TO THEM ST. MARY'S STRIPS, WE HAVE SEEN NOTHING THAT GIVES US HOPE THAT SUCH CONFLICT WOULD NOT OCCUR HERE. PEACE AND SECURITY. NOT TO MENTION HOMEOWNER PROPERTY VALUES WOULD SUFFER SHOULD THIS MEAN CHANGE BE GRANTED. THE M P N A BOARD AND NEIGHBORS ARE NOT OPPOSED TO REDEVELOPMENT. INDEED, IT IS OUR DREAM THAT MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY RESTAURANTS FIND A HOME ALONG FREDERICKSBURG ROAD SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DRIVE FAR AWAY TO ENJOY A NIGHT OF GOOD FOOD AND ENTERTAINMENT. WE DO NOT OPPOSE AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT SERVES ALCOHOL EITHER. IF 51% OF THE REVENUE COMES FROM THE SALE OF FOOD, WE ARE NOT CONFIDENT. HOWEVER, THAT THE ZONING CHAIN SOUGHT BY THE OWNERS OF 1703 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD WOULD ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THOSE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ADJACENT TO AND NEAR THIS BUILDING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. KATHY TEAGUE, PRESIDENT OF MON CELLO PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, GLORIA VALENZUELA WRITES AND HER ADDRESS IS 1951 WEST MAGNOLIA. I'M IN FAVOR OF 20 21 0 7 0 0 7 2 LOCATED ON FRED ROAD, GLORIA VALENZUELA. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR YOU MR. CHAIR. CHAIR, ARE YOU THERE? OH, AM I SUPPOSED TO BE ? DID WE CHANGE, DID WE CHANGE HANDS AND I, NO. OKAY. OKAY, SO I'M, I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY IT'S UP TO THE TWO OF YOU. HOWEVER YOU WANNA DO IT. DOESN'T MATTER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO, UM, IT SO THAT WAS THE APPLICANT IS, UH, I MEAN, THAT WAS THE CASE. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES. MM-HMM. . OH, OH, I'M SORRY. THAT WAS THE, WOULD THE, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO HAVE A RESPONSE? MR. UH, COCHRANE? YEAH. I MEAN, I THINK THAT AS A WHOLE, I FEEL LIKE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED IS RELATIVELY POSITIVE. UH, I THINK THAT THE, I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE HOW MUCH GOOD FEEDBACK WE GOT AND THE DIALOGUE THAT CAME ALONG WITH THOSE, THOSE COMMENTS. I WASN'T MADE AWARE OF THOSE UNTIL ABOUT 30 MINUTES BEFORE THIS PHONE CALL. UM, I'M SORRY. NO, GO AHEAD. SO I WAS JUST SAYING, OKAY. SO FOR ME, I GUESS I WAS JUST SAYING THAT I'M APPRECIATIVE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECEIVE SUCH POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THOSE IN THE CLOSE PROXIMITY TO, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY. UM, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, OVERALL THE GENERAL CONSENSUS IS THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA AND THAT PEOPLE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF OUR EFFORTS. SO, UM, I'M NOT USED TO THAT, SO I'M THANKFUL FOR IT. . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I GUESS, OR, THANK YOU, MR. COCHRANE. OKAY. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT AND FOR STAFF, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT. UM, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THE SIZE OF THIS BUILDING IS? SO IT'S ABOUT, UM, I THINK IT'S AROUND 4,400 SQUARE FEET. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF ME AT THE MOMENT, BUT, UM, IN REGARDS TO THE INITIAL ZONING THAT WAS FILED, KIND OF WENT BACK AND FORTH ON ALL OF THAT, AND THAT'S WHY IT MADE SENSE TO ACTUALLY GO DOWN TO C ONE BECAUSE THE BUILDING, UM, IT, IT, THAT WAS MORE FITTING FOR WHAT IT ACTUALLY IS. THAT'S WHY WE ARRIVED AT THE C ONE WITH THE, UH, DESTINATION. OKAY. UM, AND HOW MANY PARKING SPACES, UM, ARE PROVIDED FOR, UM, AND I NOTICED THAT YOU GUYS, IT LOOKED LIKE YOU MAYBE HAD FILLED IN AN AREA THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY IMPERVIOUS COVER, UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S NOW LANDSCAPING. UM, SO JUST GIMME AN IDEA OF, OF HOW MANY PARKING SPACES YOU, YOU'RE LEFT WITH. SO I'M ON MY WAY TO GRAB A RIGHT NOW. UM, I KNOW THAT RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN AREA THAT WAS FILLED IN WITH [02:20:01] MORE LANDSCAPING AND WE ARE ACTUALLY PROPOSING, I'VE ACTUALLY ALREADY TALKED TO PUBLIC WORKS OR FORMERLY KNOWN T C I TO IN FACT INCREASE THE PARKING. UM, SORRY, I'M TRYING TO FIND SO ON MY DESK, BUT I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S ABOUT, I WANT TO SAY 17 OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, AND WE'RE PROPOSING TO ADD ABOUT SEVEN MORE. OKAY. SO YOU'RE, THOSE ARE, WOULD BE, UM, ALONG FREDERICKSBURG ROAD IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THEN ON WEST KING'S HIGHWAY AS WELL? THAT'S RIGHT. CORRECT. OKAY. UM, WILL THERE BE ANY OUTDOOR SEATING? I BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I'LL, YOU KNOW, I LET AMELIA CHIME IN ON THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU, HAVE YOU SEEN THE DECO PIZZERIA RENOVATIONS IN THAT AREA? I KNOW IT'S NOT THE EXACT PROPERTY IN QUESTION REFERENCE TO KIND OF COMPARE PAIR. RIGHT. I JUST WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, IS THERE GOING TO BE OUTDOOR SEATING? SO YES, THERE IS AN AREA THAT HAS SEMI COVERED THAT WOULD HAVE AN OUTDOOR SEATING AREA. OKAY. UM, AND THEN WILL THERE BE FOOD SERVED ALONG WITH, UM, THE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. UM, INSTEAD IT'S KIND OF LIKE MORE JUST LIKE A, A WINE BAR. SO REALLY, I MEAN, IT'S, COULD WE BOARDS AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, PREPACKAGED STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT THEN ALSO WE'D LIKE TO WORK AND UNISON WITH DE PIZZERIA, UM, TO ALLOW IT A BIT LIKE THE OPTION IF PEOPLE WERE YEAH. TO HAVE HOT FOOD TO BE WITH, WORK WITH DEBORAH PIZZA AND HAVE FOOD BROUGHT OVER TO OUR LOCATION. UH, AND I'LL LET AMELIA CHIME IN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT, IF THERE'S SPECIFICS ABOUT THE FOOD, JUST 'CAUSE SHE HAS MORE OF THAT UNDER HER BELT AS OPPOSED TO MY, SO YES, WE DO PLAN TO HAVE A GRAB AND GO COOLER AS WELL, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN, UM, WHEN THEY'RE DO, WHEN THEY'RE ORDERING THEIR WINE OR THEY'RE WHISKEY, THEY'RE ABLE TO GRAB THE TYPES OF, UH, SEASONAL CHEESES THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OFFERING THERE AT THIS LOCATION. WE DO PLAN TO OFFER SEASONAL CHEESE AND CHARCUTERIE PLATES AS WELL AS PLATTERS FOR GROUPS. UM, THE HOT FOOD DELIVERY IDEA IS, SO THAT DECO PIZZERIA, SINCE IT IS PART OF THE SAME TEAM THAT'S BEHIND THIS ESTABLISHMENT, IT'S THE SAME TEAM THAT'S BEHIND DECO PIZZERIA, JACOB AND I AS WELL. SO WE'RE GOING TO USE, UTILIZE THAT AND BE ABLE TO DELIVER HOT FOOD FROM DEGO PIZZERIA, BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR COLD SANDWICHES THAT WE'LL HAVE AVAILABLE. SO THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF FOOD FOR CUSTOMERS TO PURCHASE WHILE THEY'RE AT THE ESTABLISHMENT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF OPERATION? THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR TO DECO PIZZERIA RIGHT NOW. WE DO HAVE LATE HOURS THERE, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS USE THEM. IT'S REALLY THE DEMAND OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO US IS THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS TYPE OF ESTABLISHMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF REQUESTS AND INTEREST AND WE'RE TRYING, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE SUPPORT, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND US AS WELL. AND SO WHAT ARE THE HOURS OF DECO PIZZERIA? SO RIGHT NOW DURING COVID, OF COURSE, THEY'RE TILL NINE OR 10 O'CLOCK. UM, NON COVID IT WAS, UM, SOMETIMES WE'RE OPEN TILL MIDNIGHT, USUALLY THE LATEST NOW, AND THEN WE'LL STAY, WE'LL HAVE A LATE HOUR IF THERE'S A PRIVATE EVENT TILL 1:00 AM SO WE WILL HAVE, UH, THE OPTION TO STAY OPEN UNTIL 2:00 AM OKAY. UM, TO STAFF. UM, CAN YOU, UM, TELL ME, REMIND ME AGAIN WHAT THE, UM, FOOD AND ALCOHOL PERCENTAGES ARE FOR ZONING PURPOSES? I GET CONFUSED WITH THE, WITH THE STATE AND THE CITY REGULATIONS. SO HOW, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE, UM, OF FOOD SALES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED A RESTAURANT? A RESTAURANT NEEDS TO MAINTAIN, A RESTAURANT NEEDS TO MAINTAIN, UH, AT LEAST 25% FOOD SALES, UM, IN ORDER TO NOT BE A BAR. SO YOU COULD HAVE 75% OF YOUR REVENUE, UM, FROM ALCOHOL AND STILL BE CONSIDERED A RESTAURANT. YES. IF IT DROPS BELOW 25%, THEN IT BECOMES A BAR. OKAY. UM, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, GIVEN THE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING [02:25:01] AND THE POTENTIAL USE AS A BAR, UH, IS THERE ADEQUATE PARKING? YES, THIS IS CHRISTIE. THEIR SITE PLAN SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE 17, ACTUALLY THEY HAVE TW THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE 17 SPACES AND THEY HAVE 21. OKAY, THANK YOU. AND THEN, UM, UM, COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, UM, AND THEN I'LL TURN IT OVER TO EVERYONE ELSE. ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT THE USE, UM, NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPERTY IS ON, UM, WEST KING'S HIGHWAY? IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A RESIDENTIAL HOME, UM, THAT IS THERE. I THINK IT'S, THE ZONING APPEARS TO BE C TWO N A. ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT, WHAT THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING USED FOR? IS THIS THE ONE ON THE SCREEN OR NO, NEXT DOOR ON, ON GOING. IF YOU WERE TO TURN DOWN, SO IT'S, YOU GUYS MAY NOT HAVE A PICTURE OF IT. UM, DO YOU WANNA PULL UP GOOGLE MAPS? UH, YOU CAN SEE THE STREET VIEW AND NONE OF THOSE ARE WHAT I'M LOOKING, I'M LOOKING AT THIS, THE PROPERTY, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S 1618 WEST KINGS, MAYBE WE'RE, WE'RE PULLING UP GOOGLE NOW TO SEE AS THE APPLICANT, IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT WOULD, MIGHT BE A HOME. UH, BUT REMEMBER IF THIS WAS A CONVERSION FROM THE, UH, F TO C TWO MAYBE, UM, HOMES WERE ALLOWED IN THE OLD F DISTRICT. OKAY. BUT WE'RE, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING IT UP NOW. AS SOON AS SHE GETS THERE, SHE'LL PUT IT ON THE SCREEN. UM, AND I GUESS WHILE, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING THAT UP, THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE QUITE A FEW N A DESIGNATIONS ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL AS ACROSS THE STREET, MEANING ACROSS FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, AS WELL AS DOWN IN FREDERICKSBURG. IS THERE ANY REASON FOR THAT OR THAT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S HOW IT ENDED UP? OR IS THERE, I I'M JUST KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO WHY THERE'S SO MUCH NA UM, KIND OF IN THIS AREA, BUT THEN THERE WAS A COUPLE OF PARCELS THAT SEEMED TO NOT HAVE THE NA SO IS THERE ANY REASON FOR THAT? UM, LET'S SEE. KINDA LOOKING AT THIS ZONING HISTORY, IT LOOKS LIKE, I MEAN, THERE'S, IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE PROPERTY ALONG WITH OTHER PROPERTIES MAY HAVE BEEN REZONED SOMETIME IN THE EIGHTIES. UH, SOME NAS, SOME NOT. UM, BUT, UH, LIKE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, ONCE THAT WAS ZONED, UH, C TWO, UH, IT THEN CONVERTED. I MEAN, ONCE IT WAS ON B TWO IT CONVERTED TO C TWO. SO IT, IT'S JUST POSSIBLE THERE ARE INDIVIDUAL, UH, REZONINGS OR, UM, MAY HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE EIGHTIES. OKAY. BUT THERE'S NO SCHOOLS OR OTHER, UM, CONSIDERATIONS OTHER THAN MAYBE THE FACT THAT THERE'S SO MUCH RESIDENTIAL BEHIND THERE, THERE'S NO OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT AWARE OF? NO. 'CAUSE THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO SCHOOL, CHURCH OR HOSPITAL WITHIN, UH, 300 FEET OF, OF ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES. OKAY. OKAY. UM, AND THEN JUST THE ANSWER TO MY PREVIOUS QUESTION ABOUT THE, THE USE NEXT DOOR, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THE, IF THE OWNER CAN MAYBE COMMENT BASED ON WHAT THEY KNOW. YEAH, SO WE'VE TALKED TO THAT NEIGHBOR AND THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE CAKE STORE THAT'S NEXT TO IT AT OUR GOOGLE MAPS. THAT RESIDENCE ACTUALLY HAS A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN INSIDE IT. AND THAT IS WHERE THAT, AND THEY USE THAT FOR THEIR BUSINESS AS WELL. AND WE HAVE TALKED TO OUR NEIGHBOR AND THEY'RE VERY EXCITED. I MEAN, THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IN THAT LOCATION. THE CAKE STORE THAT'S NEXT DOOR, IT'S DOWN THE, IT'S JUST A LITTLE, IT'S BY THE, UM, GAS STATION. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE IT. THERE'S A LITTLE, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE GOOGLE MAPS UP CELL, IT'S IN BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THEN THE GAS STATION JUST FURTHER UP, BURG A SMALL LITTLE CASE STORE, RIGHT? THERE'S CAKES. YES. LETTY'S CAKES. OKAY, I SEE THAT. YEAH, THEY, WE HAVE A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN IN THAT PROPERTY FROM WHAT I, FROM WHAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TOLD ME. AND I'M, AGAIN, I'M NOT SPEAKING ON THEIR BEHALF BECAUSE I'VE NOT BEEN IN THAT PROPERTY. [02:30:02] OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. WHAT DO YOU ESTIMATE THE, UH, SEATING CAPACITY TO BE? MR. COCHRANE? OH, I APOLOGIZE. I'M SORRY. CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? YES. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THE SEATING CAPACITY OR OCCUPANCY WOULD BE? THE MAX OCCUP OCCUPANCY WOULD BE ON THE LOCATION? HOW MANY PEOPLE? YES. NO, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. SO THAT WOULDN'T REALLY BE DETERMINED UNTIL AN ACTUAL INTERIOR LAYOUT WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, DRAWN UP. AND THEN THAT WAY DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CAN REALLY ANALYZE EXACTLY HOW MUCH OF THE AREA'S KITCHEN, HOW MUCH IS, YOU KNOW, THE FREESTANDING AREA. AND SO I, I DO NOT KNOW THAT I DON'T HAVE, OR FOR SURE AMELIA DOES NOT HAVE A OFFICIAL, UM, INTERIOR LAYOUT THAT'S BEEN DRAWN UP BY AN ARCHITECT. AND THEN THE CITY WOULD ACTUALLY TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT NUMBER WOULD BE. OKAY. MY UNDERSTANDING. MY UNDERSTANDING, YEAH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES, UH, I'VE GOT, UH, A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. BUT, UM, JUST AS A A POINT OF INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW THIS, THIS IS KIND OF A WEIRD AREA OF, UH, OF FREDERICKSBURG ROAD WHERE DISTRICT ONE KIND OF JUMPS ACROSS THE STREET AND WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY DISTRICT SEVEN GOES ALONG FREDERICKSBURG. THIS IS WHERE IT JUMPS ACROSS AND BECOMES DISTRICT ONE. UM, HOWEVER, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IN MONTICELLO PARK ARE PREDOMINANTLY IN, UH, SEVEN. UM, SO, AND SINCE, UM, IN FACT SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY WROTE IN LETTERS, UM, I'M, I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS, UH, THIS PROPERTY. UM, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS FOR STAFF AND THAT'S REGARDING CONDITIONS, WHETHER CONDITIONS COULD BE APPLIED TO, UH, AN F DESIGNATION SUCH AS LIMITING HOURS OR LIMITING OUTSIDE SEATING OR OUTDOOR SOUND AMPLIFICATION OR OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, STAFF IS THAT, ARE THE, ARE CONDITIONS ALLOWED? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES, THIS IS CHRISTIE. THEY, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO PUT CONDITIONS ON THERE SUCH AS BUFFERING HOURS OF OPERATION, YOU KNOW, TEMPORARY SIGNAGE RESTRICTIONS, THE, THE STANDARD RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU'RE ACCUSTOMED TO LOOKING AT. AND C ONE DOES NOT PERMIT ANY OUTSOURCE SPEAKERS. SO THAT IS, UM, ALREADY PART OF THE C ONE DESIGNATION. OKAY. OKAY. AND SO THEN, UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. AND THAT IS, DID YOU CONSIDER, UH, A RESTAURANT APPLICATION SINCE THE RESTAURANT ONLY REQUIRES 25%? AND IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE NOT OPPOSED TO A RESTAURANT SERVING ALCOHOL. IT'S JUST THAT PRIMARILY THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT COULD COME AFTERWARDS. UM, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THIS ESTABLISHMENT, WHICH WHICH SOUNDS VERY, UH, DESIRABLE, WOULD BE THERE FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. AND IT'S WHAT COULD HAPPEN. THAT, THAT FOR ME IS THE CONCERN. SO HAS THE APPLICANT CONSIDERED DOING A RESTAURANT WITH THE, THE VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT THE, THE CITY REQUIRES IN ORDER TO BE CLASSIFIED AS SUCH? SO YES. OF, UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE INITIALLY DID AND WE DO, WE DO CONSIDER, BUT AGAIN, JUST TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE ARE STILL PART OF, UM, THE DECO PIA AND WE ARE PART OF THAT SAME TEAM. AND BECAUSE WE WILL BE ORDERING FOOD FOR, I MEAN, OUR CUSTOMERS WILL BE ALLOWED TO ORDER FOOD FROM OUR OTHER LOCATION DELIVERING AT THAT, THAT AMOUNT OF FOOD THAT'S BEING, UM, PROVIDED FOR THIS LOCATION IS GOING TO COUNT FOR OUR DECO PIZZERIA, OUR DECO PIZZERIA. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO WE ARE, THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US, BECAUSE IT WON'T NECESSARILY BE IN OURSELVES, SHOW UP IN OURSELVES, BUT IT WILL BE PART OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR CUSTOMERS TO HAVE PLENTY OF FOOD. SO WE ARE CONSIDERING BOTH OUR LOCATIONS WHEN WE, UM, THINK ABOUT THIS SPOT [02:35:01] AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT A WINE BAR, AND THAT IS REALLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE HAD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM OUR CURRENT CUSTOMERS THAT THEY REALLY WANTED A PLACE TO LOUNGE AND HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS AND BE ABLE TO REALLY GET, UM, BE EDUCATED IN WINE. WE DO PLAN TO CREATE THAT KIND OF FEEL THERE AS WELL. AND SO SHA RECRUITERY AND CHEESE PLATTERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE THERE FOR WINE FERRIES, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY REACHING THAT 25%. SO WE REALLY WANTED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN WE DECIDED TO APPLY FOR THIS DONOR. UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA IS TO GIVE US A CHANCE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF THEM. WE WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE WINEMAKERS AND INVITE THEM INTO OUR ESTABLISHMENT. WE WANT YOU TO MEET THE MONGERS, THE CHEESE MONGERS AND INVITE THEM INTO OUR ESTABLISHMENT FOR THESE SPECIAL LOCATIONS. AND AGAIN, THOSE THAT REVENUE IS GONNA BE, MUST BE THE WINE, UM, THE WHISKEY THAT'S PAIRED WITH THESE ITEMS AND WON'T, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT AT ALL AS WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CONSIDER THAT IT MIGHT BE FALL UNDER 25%. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO US TO CONSIDER THAT. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT, IT DOES. UM, UH, UH, AGAIN, IT GIVES ME PAUSE BECAUSE IT'S, AND, AND I KNOW MY COMMISSIONERS ARE PROBABLY TIRED OF ME SAYING THIS OVER AND OVER. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, IT'S ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE WHEN YOU ARE NO LONGER THERE. UM, AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY PRIMARY CONCERN IS, IS WHAT COULD HAPPEN. UM, AND SO I'M LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE, TO MAKE THE ESTABLISHMENT WORK, BUT WITHOUT, UM, ENDANGERING OR NOT NECESSARILY ENDANGERING WITHOUT CAUSING ISSUES IN THE FUTURE. UH, BUT, BUT THANKS FOR THAT EXPLANATION. UM, LET ME SEE. OKAY, SO, SO SINCE, UH, IT, IT APPEARS THAT THE, UM, THAT THE CITY WAS OKAY WITH ADDING CONDITIONS WOULD, AND THIS IS TO THE APPLICANT, WOULD THE APPLICANT BE WILLING TO ENTERTAIN, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION RESTRICTIONS? SO I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER OUR OTHER ESTABLISHMENT, AND THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. UM, I THINK FOR ALL OF US AS A TEAM HERE ON, AS APPLICANTS AND AS BEING THE TENANT, WE HAVE, UM, PROVIDED A RESTAURANT ALREADY IN YOUR, IN THIS CORRIDOR AND WITH THE SAME HOURS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE. AND WE, I, AND I PUT THIS BACK ON YOU, ON, ON, UM, YOU, IF YOU CAN TELL ME OF A TIME THAT WE'VE EVER VIOLATED THAT, THEN THAT WOULD BE REALLY, UM, SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE BEEN VERY, UM, COURTEOUS AND CONSIDERATE OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND WE DO EVENTS AND WE STAY OPENLY WHEN THERE IS A SPECIFIC REASON TO DO SO. UM, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO NOISE VIOLATIONS AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON RECORD FOR THAT. 'CAUSE WE, WE HAVE BEEN VERY AWARE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THIS ADULT CORRIDOR. AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US. JUST LIKE DECO PIZZERIA, WE PLAN TO BE PART OF THE ON AND OFF, UM, FRED ROAD STUDIO TOUR. I MEAN, THIS IS MY OLD NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS WHERE JACOB LIVES. AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE CONSTANTLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO INVEST IN, BECAUSE WE WANNA REVITALIZE THIS. UH, WE, WE SUPPORT NAYA, WHICH IS THE NOW, UM, OFFICIAL DECO DISTRICT ARTS FESTIVAL IN THAT AREA. AND SO WE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO BE PART OF THAT AND CONTINUE TO SUPPORT NOT ONLY THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ALSO TO WORK TO KEEP, AND IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US, THE HISTORICAL PRESERVATION AS WELL OF THIS DISTRICT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE SAME, UM, HOURS OF OPERATION THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US THAT ARE EITHER ESTABLISHMENT AND THAT IS IMPORTANT TO US. OKAY. AND, AND MY CONCERN IS THAT THAT, UH, DECO PIZZERIA HAS A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER BEHIND IT BEFORE YOU GET TO RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSES THEMSELVES. WHEREAS THIS ONE IS A DIFFERENT CASE. THIS IS NOT LIKE, UM, SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU GO ON ST. MARY'S STRIP, LIKE THE MIX, YOU'VE GOT A HUGE PARKING LOT BEHIND IT. YOU'VE GOT A BUFFER, EVEN, UH, THE PAPER TIGER, OR AS WE USED TO KNOW IT AS UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME, YOU'VE GOT A BUFFER BEHIND IT. AND, UH, THE, THE DECO PIZZERIA. UM, WITHOUT GETTING INTO SPECIFICS OF WHETHER PEOPLE WERE CALLED, I I DO KNOW THAT WHEN I WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD PRESIDENT IN THE MONTICELLO PARK AREA, WE DID RECEIVE NEIGHBORS CALLING US SAYING, HEY, THEY'RE PLAYING THE MUSIC, WE'RE LOUD, DA DA DA AND STUFF. AND WE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS. WE TALKED, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, UH, THE ESTABLISHMENTS TO RESOLVE IT. UM, BUT THE, THE CONCERN IS YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THE, THE HARDWARE KIND OF STORE BEHIND IT. YOU'VE GOT SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL BEHIND DECO PIZZERIA WHERE, WHEREAS [02:40:01] THIS IS LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM A HOUSE AND MAYBE ONE HOUSE BE BEYOND. WHAT, WHAT IS A, WHAT'S THE, THE, THE CAKE SHOP IS RESIDENCE. SO I UNDERSTAND THE DECO PIZZERIA OPERATION, BUT IT, IT'S, I'M TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK FOR THIS LOCATION. IT, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. UM, BUT, UH, IT IS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THANK YOU FOR THE, THE, THE COMMENT AND, AND, UM, LET ME SEE. DID I HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WAS, I THINK AT THIS TIME THAT IS, UM, I, I I THINK THAT IS IT. UH, I, I, I KNOW THAT, UH, SUMMER HAD HAD BROUGHT THIS UP. COMMISSIONER GRAUER BROUGHT THIS UP ASKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF NA UP AND DOWN THE CORRIDOR. UM, I DO KNOW THAT WHEN THE NEAR NORTHWEST PLAN WAS DONE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IT, IT CAME ABOUT A COUPLE YEARS BEFORE I WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WAS THAT THERE THEY WERE, THAT WAS ONE OF THE FOCUS, UM, IDEAS WAS TO, TO TO TRY AND LIMIT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO TRY AND NOT BECOME ANOTHER, UH, ST. MARY'S STRIP. WHICH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE ALL GONE THERE, WE, THAT'S NOT A BIG DEAL. UM, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT'S THE REASON PROBABLY WHY THERE WERE SOME NA WAS THAT THERE WAS SOME ACTUAL THOUGHT BACK THEN. NOW I GUESS THAT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE WHETHER THAT THAT STILL APPLIES OR NOT. BUT, UM, THAT IS ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THIS POINT. THANKS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? I THINK MY COLLEAGUES HAVE PRETTY MUCH DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING TO THE ROOT OF THE, THE INFORMATION ON THIS PROPOSED BUSINESS. UM, BUT I JUST DO WANT FOR THE RECORD FOR CL UH, FOR STAFF TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS. SO, UH, THE CONCERN WITH THE C ONE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE BARN TAVERN, IF, UH, SOME UNFORTUNATE THING HAPPENS AND THIS BUSINESS CLOSES, DOES THAT SPECIFIC USE AUTOMATICALLY REMAIN WITH THE PROPERTY? YES, ZONING IS, UH, TIED TO THE PROPERTY. SO IT, IT RUNS IN PERPETUITY UNTIL REZONED AGAIN. OKAY. AND WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATIONS, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY ADD CONDITIONS. AM I WRONG? OH, NO, YOU CAN DO CONDITIONS. THEY WORK SIMILAR TO CONDITIONAL USES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I, I, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE OWNERS ARE, ARE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE, AND I ENCOURAGE THAT GROWTH. UM, SO I, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT. UM, WHEN YOU, YOU REMODELED, WHAT WAS THE JOE'S GYM, IS THAT CORRECT? SO YOU REMODELED THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE? NO, JUST THE EXTERIOR. SO WE ACTUALLY, WE GUTTED THE INTERIOR, SO IT'S PRETTY MUCH LIKE IN A SHELTERED CONDITION. WE ONLY PULLED PERMITS AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GOT A BUILDING PERMIT TO RENOVATE THE EXTERIOR AND THE LANDSCAPING AND SUCH LIKE THAT. OH, OKAY. THAT'S RIGHT. YOU SAID YOU WERE WORKING ON THE FLOOR PLAN. SO ON THE INTERIOR, DO YOU PLAN SOUND, SOME TYPE OF SOUND ABATEMENT SINCE YOU'LL BE HAVING, I GUESS YOU'LL HAVE SOME MUSICIANS THERE PERHAPS OR SO, I MEAN, HAVEN'T EXACTLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT YET, BUT GRANTED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IS IN FACT BUILT OUT OF CINDER BLOCK. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FIRE CODES AND ALL THAT GRANTED, JUST TO INFORM YOU AS WELL. BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIRE RATE THE WALLS AND EVERYTHING. I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW IT'S THAT ABATEMENT FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT EXTENT OF THE, UM, THE BUILD GOES, BUT, UM, WE'RE HAVE TO BRING A SPRINKLER SYSTEM AND ALL THAT. SO, UM, I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT. I REALLY HAVEN'T HAD TO DO THAT BEFORE. UM, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE OPPOSED, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT FOR SURE. OR MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW YOUR LAYOUT, MAYBE WHEREVER YOUR STAGE IS, IT'S A LITTLE MORE SOUNDPROOF SO IT DOESN'T VIBRATE TOO FAR INTO THE COMMUNITY THERE ON KING'S HIGHWAY. JUST A THOUGHT. UM, AND THEN, UH, THE, I I, I WISH I COULD SEE THE FRONT ELEVATION, UH, BUT I DON'T SEE IT. SO WHAT, WHERE IS THE ENTRANCE TO, TO THE BUILDING? IS IT THAT LITTLE PAD, CONCRETE PAD? IT'S, IT'S THE SAME ENTRANCE THAT YOU SEE IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT, AND UNLESS I DON'T THINK, UM, ON GOOGLE MAPS THAT IT'S IN FACT UPDATED. I THINK IT'S THE OLD GOLD GYM. BUT WE, UM, WE HAVE THE SAME EXISTING ENTRANCE THAT'S RIGHT ON THE FRONT, SO OH, OKAY. [02:45:01] SO IT'S CLOSER TO LE'S CAKE, THE ENTRANCE IS CLOSER TO LE'S CAKE? YES. OKAY. SO, OKAY. SO PEOPLE PARK AND GO, WE'LL HAVE TO COME DOWN FURTHER INTO THE STREET AND NOT THE NEIGHBORHOOD END OF THIS, OF THE BUILDING TO GO INTO THE ENTRANCE. OKAY. THAT'S THE INTENT IS SPREAD. OKAY. UH, I LIKE THE DECO LOOK. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LEFT THAT OR NOT. UM, AND I HAVE A, A DECO PIZZERIA, BY THE WAY. IT'S VERY YUMMY. UM, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YOU ARE MUTED. SORRY ABOUT THAT. IT'S, IT IS JUST, IT IS JUST A QUICK COMMENT TO THE APPLICANT. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS ONE'S GONNA END UP TURNING OUT, BUT I WANNA SAY THAT I REALLY COMMEND YOU FOR, FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING HERE. I ALWAYS ADMIRE FOLKS LIKE YOU, UM, WHO, WHO TAKE ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS AND, AND ARE LOOKING TO, UH, CREATE ANOTHER BUSINESS, UH, HERE, HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT COMES WITH A BUNCH OF CHALLENGES AND A BUNCH OF RISK. BUT, BUT I APPRECIATE FOLKS LIKE YOU OUT THERE WILLING TO DO THIS. WELL, GREAT. APPRECIATE IT AS WELL. SO I APPRECIATE THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, SO THIS CASE, UM, FOR ME IS, IS A LITTLE DIFFICULT. I PROBABLY SAY THAT A LOT. UM, SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO, I'M JUST GONNA KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF MY THOUGHTS ON THIS, AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS BEFORE I MAKE A MOTION, UM, TO HEAR THEIR IDEAS. BUT, UM, SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT, I'M ON THE FENCE. UM, AS FAR AS THIS GOES, I THINK THAT SUPPORTING ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THIS AREA, IS VERY IMPORTANT. UM, SO I THINK AS FAR AS PUBLIC POLICY GOES, THAT'S REALLY, UM, A, A BIG FACTOR FOR ME. HOWEVER, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BALANCE THAT WITH, UH, THE FACT THAT THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF USE HAS THE POSSIBILITY TO, UM, CAUSE GREAT IM ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORING LANDS AS WELL AS AFFECTING IN AN ADVERSE MANNER THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THOSE RESIDENTS AND FOLKS AROUND. UM, YOU KNOW, I, I LOOK AT, I LIVE NOT THAT FAR AWAY FROM, UM, PAPER TIGER AND THE MIX AND THE ST. MARY'S STRIP. UM, IT'S NOT ONLY CAN I HEAR, UH, PAPER TIGER AT TIMES, NOT WHEN I'M IN THERE ACTUALLY WATCHING A CONCERT, BUT I CAN ACTUALLY HEAR IT FROM MY HOUSE AND I'M PROBABLY AT LEAST HALF A MILE AWAY. UM, SO, UM, I, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT THE FOLKS WHO LIVE OVER THERE IN TOBIN HILL IN THAT AREA EXPERIENCE. AND THEN I'VE HEARD FROM, FROM OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THAT CONTINUES TO BE AN ISSUE. UM, SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. ALSO, KIND OF LOOKING AT, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WHERE WE HAVE, UH, USES LIKE BARS AND, FOR EXAMPLE, THE STRIP ON MAIN STREET, THAT IS A MUCH MORE COMMERCIAL AREA, AND I THINK THERE'S LESS PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO THAT, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HERE BECAUSE WE HAVE, AS COMMISSIONER SITES MENTIONED, THERE'S NOT MUCH BUFFER. WE ARE VERY CLOSE ACROSS THE STREET NEXT DOOR TO, UM, RESIDENTIAL USES. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PUTTING WHILE THE, THE PROPOSED TENANT, UM, MAY HAVE A FANTASTIC, UH, RECORD HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND AS A GREAT OPERATOR, UM, I, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT COMMISSIONER SIPE SAID, AND I NEVER GET TIRED OF HEARING YOU SAY IT. UM, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE CURRENT OPERATOR. THIS IS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN A YEAR OR FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS IF, UM, IF A BUSINESS ISN'T SUCCESSFUL OR IF SOMEONE DECIDES TO MOVE. UM, SO I HAVE, OR IF THE PROPERTY GETS SOLD, ANY OF THOSE. SO I, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY BIG ISSUES THERE. UM, AS FAR AS, UM, CONSISTENCY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN CALLS FOR THIS TO BE A NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL USE. AND EXAMPLES OF THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, SMALLER, LESS INTENSE USES LIKE COFFEE SHOPS AND SHOE REPAIR SHOPS. UM, RESTAURANTS IS ONE, UM, OFFICES. SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I GO BACK AND FORTH ON THAT AS WELL BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO BE A MORE INTENSE USE. AND, UM, ON SUITABILITY, UM, AS PRESENTLY ZONED, THIS IS ONE WHERE ACTUALLY THINK THAT CHANGING THE ZONING [02:50:01] MAY, UM, WEIGH IN FAVOR OF, OF THE, OF THIS CASE. UM, BECAUSE C ONE DOES NOT ALLOW THE OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, UM, WHEREAS C TWO DOES. SO IF THERE WAS A RESTAURANT THAT WAS TO COME IN, UM, AND OPERATE RIGHT NOW, IT COULD HAVE OUTDOOR AMPLIFICATION, WHICH COULD HAVE GREATER, UM, IMPACTS ON THOSE SURROUNDING AREAS. UM, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IN OF ITSELF IS DISPOSITIVE OF, UH, OF WHAT THE RIGHT DECISION IS HERE. SO, UM, I SEE MY TIME IS UP, SO I'LL TURN IT OVER TO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY, UH, UM, COMMENTS, DISCUSSION FROM ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? I DON'T KNOW, AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN TO PAPER TIGER OR ANY OF THE THINGS ON ST. MARY'S. NOT MY THING. UM, I I I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE RELATING IT TO THIS STRIP. AS I LOOK AT IT QUITE A LOT OF, UH, BARS AND TAVERNS ON THAT STRIP OF ST. MARY'S, I DON'T SEE THE RELATION IF OTHER THAN THERE'S A NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND THIS BUILDING, LIKE THERE IS ON ST. MARY'S STRIP. HOWEVER, THE BUFFER ON THIS PARTICULAR ZONING CASE IS GREATER THAN I WOULD THINK THE ST. MARY'S IS, IS YOU HAVE A LARGER STREET, UM, YOU HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES ALONG THE STRIP, SO THERE'S A GREATER BUFFER, ESPECIALLY WHEN THOUGH YOU HAVE SO MANY RIGHT IN, IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT, WHO FEEL A NEED FOR THIS TYPE OF AN ESTABLISHMENT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, OR A PLACE FOR THEM TO GO MEET EACH MEET UP WITH THEIR, THEIR FELLOW NEIGHBORS. I DON'T THINK IT'S BECOME A NECESSARY EVIL FOR THEM. AND, BUT, AND THIRDLY TO, UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES, UM, I, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE NECESSITY OTHER THAN YES, IT'S IN PERPETUITY, BUT ANYTHING CAN BE CHANGED. ANY OF THESE ZONING CASES CAN BE CHANGED TO ALREADY GIVE THE ESTABLISHMENT AND I A A, UH, YOU MAY BE FAILING GRADE BEFORE THEY EVEN BEGUN. UM, I, I DON'T JUST NOT IN MY D N A TO DO THAT. I THINK JUST LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONERS, UM, WHITE, I APPLAUD THEIR, UM, INGENUITY AND THEIR VISION AND THEIR RISK AND THEIR FEAR FACTOR TO MAKE THE LEAP. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY HAVE A SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS ALREADY UNDER THE DECK OF PIZZERIA THAT I THINK THEY'LL DO WELL HERE AS WELL. SO, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT. I THINK THEY'LL, THEY SOUND LIKE A SOLID GROUP IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA JUDGE US BY, BUT WE'RE NOT, WE'RE HERE TO LOOK AT IT AS FAR AS LAND USE, AND I THINK IT'S AN APPROPRIATE USE, UH, FOR THIS DESIGNATION OF THE LAND. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH. UH, I ALSO, UH, BELIEVE THAT THERE'S AN APPROPRIATE USE, UH, WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS APPLIED FOR. AND, UH, FROM THIS PICTURE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW SHOWS, UH, UH, SUCH A TRANSFORMATION OF AN OLD, UH, STRUCTURE INTO A MORE MODERN, UH, BUSINESS, UM, OR A TAVERN, I GUESS. AND, UH, INITIALLY I WAS A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF, UH, OCCUPANTS WILL BE INSIDE, BUT, UH, AS THE APPLICANT SAYS, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE CITY, UH, PERMITTING OFFICE WHERE THEY DECIDE, UH, HOW MANY OCCUPANTS WILL BE IN HERE. AND IT'LL, IT'S PRETTY VERY DIFFICULT TO GET, UH, MORE THAN, UM, WHAT THEY'RE REALLY CAN FIT IN THERE BECAUSE I'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, UH, GETTING THE NUMBER OF OCCUPANCY, UH, INSIDE THE, UH, STRUCTURE. SO I'M IN FAVOR OF THE, UH, UH, APPLICANT'S CITY ZONING APPLICATION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER, UH, ROMERO, DID YOU STILL WANNA? YES. YEAH, I'M SORRY. CAN WE, UM, DID YOU HAVE A MAP OF KINGS HIGHWAY THAT SHOWED THE PEOPLE THERE, PROPERTY OWNERS THERE THAT WERE OPPOSED TO THIS? THE OPPOSITION WAS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET? NO. OKAY. IT WAS, IT WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR MONTICELLO PARK THAT WAS, UH, OPPOSED. OKAY. UM, YEAH, I MEAN, SINCE THE COMMISSIONER ASKED FOR FEEDBACK, I WAS, I WAS INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAD TO SAY, COMMISSIONER. UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT, UH, THE NOISE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON KINGS HIGHWAY, [02:55:01] AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE EASILY DISMISSED BECAUSE OF ALL THE GREAT REASONS TO HAVE THIS HERE. SO, UM, THAT IS, THAT IS GIVING ME PAUSE AS WELL. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER SIPES, YES. AND THIS IS JUST A, UM, I MEAN, TO ADD ON, YES, MONTICELLO PARK IS OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, BUT THE BOUNDARY BASICALLY BEGINS AT THE TOP OF THE MAP UP THERE. AND THEN JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS WITHIN THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, AND THEY VOICED OPPOSITION. UM, BUT, AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WELL, WE, ZONING CAN ALWAYS BE UNDONE, BUT AS WE'VE SEEN IN EVEN CASES TODAY, WHEN WE ARE LOOKING AT, UM, CHANGING SOMEONE'S ZONING OUT FROM UNDER THEM, YOU KNOW, THAT THERE'S ALWAYS OPPOSITION OF WELL, BUT THEY, BUT IT'S ALREADY THERE. SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTINUE THAT BUSINESS RIGHT THERE? AND, AND IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO CHANGE ZONING WHEN, WHEN IT'S ALREADY THERE. UM, I, I THINK THE ENTRANCE IS NOT NECESSARILY, OR ONE OF THE ENTRANCES MAY BE CLOSE TO LETTY'S CAKE, BUT THE OTHER ENTRANCE IS ON THE CORNER, WHICH IS ACROSS FROM, FROM RESIDENTIAL. SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE FEARS THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PARKING ALONG THE STREET, I, I REALLY DON'T WANT THEM TO TEAR DOWN LANDSCAPING TO ADD MORE PARKING. I DON'T THINK THAT'S A, A, A GOOD IDEA. I, I, I JUST, IT FOR ME, IT, IT'S AS, AS A BAR AND WHAT, AND, AND FUTURE USE, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE AT THIS LOCATION. UM, IF THERE WAS, UH, A PARKING LOT BEHIND IT, IF THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, SAY IF IT WAS ACROSS THE STREET, EVEN ON FREDERICKSBURG, WHERE WE'VE GOT, UH, THE DECO BUILDING WHERE YOU'VE GOT A BUILDING AND THEN THERE'S A, A PARKING LOT BEHIND IT, THEN YOU HAVE NEIGHBORS THAT I MIGHT, I, I, I COULD BE SWAYED THERE, BUT, BUT RIGHT HERE WHERE IT'S NESTLED INTO THE EDGE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD JUST SEEMS A LITTLE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE JUST FORCING IT IN INTO A SPOT WHERE THE, YOU KNOW, A A A RESTAURANT WITH, WITH ITS LOW THRESHOLD OF, OF, UH, FOOD REQUIREMENTS WOULD, WOULD FIT. SO THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS, I GUESS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIPES, COMMISSIONER WHITE. YEAH, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M, I'M WITH COMMISSIONER KAMATH AND WITH COMMISSIONER GIBBONS ON THIS ONE. UM, I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE USE, UM, WITH REGARD TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE SAID, AND I GUESS COMMISSIONER SIPES SAID AS WELL ABOUT THINKING ABOUT, WELL, WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THE ROAD, YOU KNOW, IF THINGS GO WRONG WITH THIS BUSINESS. UM, AND YOU KNOW, I I, I HEAR THAT, I HEAR THAT. AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT, IT SHOULDN'T BE A CONCERN, UM, BUT IF WE, IF WE MAKE THESE DECISIONS ALWAYS BASED ON SORT OF THE FEAR OF, OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO, I THINK, I THINK WE WILL, WE'LL, WE'LL BE STIFLING A LOT OF, UH, POTENTIALLY GREAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. SO, UM, I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. UM, BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CONCERN SHOULD, UM, IT SHOULD THWART AN OTHERWISE, UM, SEEMINGLY GOOD, GOOD APPLICATION, WHICH I, WHICH I THINK THIS IS. AND, AND SO I I, I'M IN, UH, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS REZONING. UM, I THINK THIS IS GONNA TURN OUT TO BE, UM, I HOPE IT'LL TURN OUT TO BE A, A REALLY GOOD SPOT THAT THE NEIGHBORS THERE, UM, WILL ENJOY. UH, AND I THINK IT WILL BE THAT IF THE OWNER, UM, TAKES THE STEPS AS HE SAYS HE WILL, TO OPERATE IT IN A RESPONSIBLE MANNER. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER WHITE, COMMISSIONER HUEY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO I AGREE WITH, UH, MOST OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS IS A GOOD TYPE OF BUSINESS TO HAVE ON FREDERICKSBURG ROAD, BUT AS I, BUT AS I ZOOM BACK AND LOOK AT THE, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THAT, UH, PROPERTY, I'M CONCERNED THAT, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME NOISE ISSUES BECAUSE AGAIN, NOISE TRAVELS. AND JUST BECAUSE I'M, YOU KNOW, BLOCK AWAY DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M NOT GONNA HEAR THE MUSIC, YOU KNOW, AT MIDNIGHT OR BEFORE THAT. SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY MAIN CONCERN. I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT WHETHER IT'S A BAR OR A RESTAURANT. I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND NOISE ABATEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROPERTY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HUY. [03:00:01] UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I, I MEAN, I'M HAPPY TO SEE SOME NEW GROWTH, SOME NEW BUSINESS IN THIS AREA, BUT I DO STILL HAVE THOSE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN ECHOED BY MY COLLEAGUES OUT THERE ABOUT THE NOISE INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT OF THAT, THAT LIES AROUND THE AREA. UM, AND I WAS MORE SUPPORTIVE UNTIL I HEARD THAT THE APPLICANT MAYBE WASN'T SO, UH, WILLING TO HAVE SOME, UM, CONDITIONS IMPOSED. AND, AND AGAIN, OPERATING TO 2:00 AM IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA BRINGS ME, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HEARTBURN ABOUT THAT. I THINK IF THEY WERE, UH, MORE WILLING TO MAYBE RESTRICT THEIR HOURS AND, AND I DON'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THEIR DAYS OF SERVICE, OBVIOUSLY, I'M SURE THE WEEKENDS ARE HEAVY BUSINESS, BUT I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING SOME CONDITIONS IN PLACE ON THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. LET'S SEE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, IF YOU'RE TALKING, SIR, YOU'RE MUTED, OR WELL, OR MAYBE IT'S YOU. WE STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU. YOU'RE UNMUTED NOW. OKAY. LET ME SEE. I HAD MY INPUT VOLUME DOWN TO ZERO. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE, UH, TECHNICAL ISSUES, MADAM CHAIR. I WASN'T INTENDING TO STICK YOU WITH THE MORE DIFFICULT CASES, UM, ALTHOUGH THAT DOES SEEM TO BE HOW IT TURNED OUT. UH, I TOO, YOU KNOW, DO FIND THIS CASE TO BE SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT. I'LL TELL YOU WHAT PUTS ME IN THE CAMP WITH THOSE WHO SUPPORT THE REZONING. ONE, I THINK THE PAPER TIGER ANALOGY IS MISPLACED AS THAT'S A REALLY MORE OF AN OUTDOOR CONCERT, STRAIGHT UP VENUE. UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH I UNDERSTAND AND AND VIEW AS LEGITIMATE ALL OF THE CONCERNS REGARDING THE NEIGHBORS, THERE'S NOT ANY REGISTERED OPPOSITION. ADDITIONALLY, I LOOK AT SOME OF THE PEOPLE, UH, THAT HAVE WRITTEN LETTERS, MARGARET MEES, UH, MEA BONO, PEOPLE LIKE THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH, THEY'RE OUTSIDE THE 200 FEET, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS KIND OF ENVIRONMENT, A WHISKEY WINE BAR, UM, I THINK IS GOING TO APPEAL TO A CERTAIN CLASS OF CLIENTELE. IT'S GONNA BE THE CLASS OF CLIENTELE THAT'S IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. AND IF IT FAILS, I DON'T HAVE MUCH CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SUDDENLY A BIKER BAR GOING IN THERE, UH, AND PLAYING A WHOLE BUNCH OF LOUD MUSIC. UH, IF, IF A BAR'S GONNA WORK IN THIS LOCATION, IT'S GONNA BE WHAT'S BEEN DESCRIBED. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I'M GONNA SUPPORT, UH, OR I HOPE TO SUPPORT THIS REZONING. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. OKAY. UM, NO OTHER DISCUSS, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. AND I DO JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, UM, FOR STAFF FIRST AND THEN MAYBE FOR THE APPLICANT, WOULD IT, CAN I AT THIS POINT ASK AGAIN IF WE'RE, IF WE WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UH, LIMITATION ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION? UM, IAN THAT'S FOR YOU OR, UH, FOR YOUR CLIENT? OKAY, SO, I MEAN, I, THE WAY THE QUESTION WAS POED, I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE A STOP QUESTION FIRST. UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AND I'LL LET ELIA DISCUSS AS WELL, BUT, YOU KNOW, , WE'RE LOOKING, SITTING HERE LOOKING AT EACH OTHER, HOPING THAT THE BUSINESS WORKS AND EVERYTHING GOES WELL. AND I'M HAVE TO THINK ABOUT REPLACING ANY TIME SOON, . BUT, UM, I, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I MEAN, I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE THE POINT THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE IN THIS AREA, WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF THE NEIGHBORS. THAT THIS, THE ONLY THING WE'RE TALKING THING IS, I MEAN, I'VE BEEN IN THE ST. MARY STRIP AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT GOES ON THERE, THOSE TYPES OF BUSINESSES, THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT WE'RE PURSUING AT ALL. AND I HATE TO, YOU KNOW, HINDER OURSELVES AFTER WE, YOU KNOW, SPENT ALL THIS MONEY TRYING TO REVITALIZE THE AREA. THE BUILDING LOOKS GREAT, AND WE FINALLY FOUND SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TOOK THIS IDEA TO US, YOU KNOW, WE SAW WORKING HERE, FITTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SEEING LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS GONNA BE POSITIVE. I HAVE THE LIMITING OF THE HOURS RIGHT NOW. I, THAT CONCERNS ME. I JUST, I DON'T, I CAN'T, I, I MEAN, WHAT IF I CAN'T AGREE TO A TIME RIGHT NOW THAT JUST DOESN'T FIT EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. [03:05:01] AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING WITH DE PIZZERIA HAND IN HAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, IT'S JUST A NEIGHBOR DOWN THE STREET WHERE, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHY WOULD ONE BE HINDERED BUT NOT THE OTHER. AND SO I FEEL LIKE THAT IS PUTTING ME IN AN AWKWARD POSITION RIGHT NOW THAT I DON'T ACCEPT TO FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST AGREEING TO AT THE MOMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, I THINK WITH THAT, UM, I, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR DENIAL, UM, FOR THIS CASE. I, I, I, DESPITE THE FACT THAT, UH, THIS WAS, THIS IS NOT THE PAPER TIGER. UM, PEOPLE COMING OUT AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, SLAMMING CAR DOORS, STARTING UP CARS, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF, REGARDLESS OF THE TYPE OF CLIENTELE, YOU KNOW, NOT TO BE CLASSIST, UM, EVEN, EVEN FOLKS WHO ARE PROFESSIONALS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE OUT AND HAVE HAD MULTIPLE BOTTLES OF WINE, UM, , THEY MAY STILL BE LOUD AND, UM, BOISTEROUS. AND THAT COULD, UM, AND I THINK HAS A GREAT POTENTIAL TO AFFECT, UM, THE RESIDENTS AROUND THERE. SO, UM, THAT, THAT FOR ME IS, IS AN ISSUE THAT I CANNOT GET OVER. SO, UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT'S A, IT'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL. SECOND. THANK YOU, DANIEL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR, UH, DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE, AND A SECOND FOR, UM, BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? MM-HMM. . I THOUGHT IT WAS UNMUTED. YES. OKAY. COMMISSIONER JONES? NO. COMMISSIONER KAMI? UH, NO. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. THE COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO. AND CHAIR MCGEE? NO. MOTION FAILS. FOUR TO FIVE. OH, FIVE TO SIX, SORRY. SO AT THIS POINT, WE EITHER HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY SOMEONE WHO VOTED AGAINST THE MOTION, AND THEN YOU CAN HAVE A NEW MOTION ON THE FLOOR. IF NOT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS ONE IS BEING HEARD, IT AUTOMATICALLY COMES BACK IN, UH, TO THE NEXT MEETING. MOTION TO RECONSIDER. THIS IS COMMISSIONER WHITE. UH, SECOND KENNETH. WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER BY COMMISSIONER WHITE AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRAU? NO. COMMISSIONER JONES. MAKE SURE TO HIT ON MUTE, MA'AM? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE? NO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIP? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE? NO. AND CHAIR MCGEE? NO. MOTION FAILS. SO WITH THAT, IT AUTOMATICALLY COMES BACK IN TWO WEEKS OR TO THE NEXT MEETING. [14. 20-4908 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700178 (Council District 7): A request for a change in zoning from “R-6” Residential Single-Family District to “MF-18” Limited Density Multi-Family District on 13.141 acres out of NCB 15664, generally located in the 11000 block of Bandera Road. Staff recommends Approval. (Justin Malone, Planner (210) 207-0157, Justin.Malone@sanantonio.gov; Development Services Department) ] OKAY. WE READY FOR THE NEXT ITEM? YES. AND MADAM CHAIR, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IT'S COMMISSIONER GROAT GREATHOUSE RECUSING. [03:10:01] YES. YOU HERSELF ON CALL. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, MAY THE RECORD SHOW THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE HAS MUTED HER CAMERA AND MICROPHONE AND IS RECUSED FROM THE ITEM 14. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BUS MATTHEW. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO M F 18. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11,000 BLOCKS OF BANDERA ROAD, THERE WERE 63 NOTICES MAILED. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, 15 WERE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM BROWN OAKS. THERE WERE 15 NOTICES RECEIVED OUT, EXCUSE ME, 45 NOTICES RECEIVED. OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA, STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE PROPOSED MF 18 IS AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION BETWEEN THE EXISTING C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALONG BANDERA ROAD CORRIDOR. IT IS ALSO SUITABLE ALONG THIS BUSY CORRIDOR AND PROVIDES AN ALTERNATIVE HOUSING OPTION. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? YES, THIS IS KEN BROWN. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. UH, IF SOMEONE COULD PUT OUR PRESENTATION UP ON THE SCREEN. UH, OKAY. UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PULLING IT UP. GO AHEAD. UH, OKAY. THIS IS KEN BROWN, UH, ONE 12 EAST PECAN, SUITE 1360 WITH BROWN AND ORTIZ. UH, I'M GONNA MAKE THE LAND USE, UH, PRESENTATION AND THEN GENE HAW WITH, UH, HEAD CORE WILL MAKE THE PRESENTATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED COMMUNITY. UH, AS STAFF, UH, MENTIONED, THE SITE IS OFF OF BANDERA ROAD ON A SOMEWHAT UNIQUELY SHAPED PIECE OF PROPERTY. IT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF FRONTAGE, UH, BUT THAT IS THE ACCESS POINT ONTO, UH, BANDERA ROAD. UH, THE SITE IS APPROX APPROXIMATELY 13 ACRES. UH, WE ARE SEEKING AN M F 18. UM, AS YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED OVER THE LAST SIX MONTHS, UH, A LOT OF THE, UH, AFFORDABLE OR WORKFORCE HOUSING COMMUNITIES ARE, ARE NOW, UH, LOWER IN DENSITY AND SEEKING MF 18 INSTEAD OF 25 OR 33, ESPECIALLY ONES THAT ARE, UM, LOCATED NEAR, UH, EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY COMMUNITY SO THAT THEY FIT IN, UH, BETTER AND ARE BETTER. UM, OH, CAN YOU GO TO SLIDE TWO? SORRY. UM, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY R SIX. WE'RE ASKING FOR MS 18, UH, FOR APPROXIMATELY 216 UNITS. UM, THE EXISTING PLAN, UH, THE NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN HAS THIS PROPERTY AT MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, UH, WHICH ALLOWS FOR MF 18 AND THEREFORE WE ARE NOT SEEKING A PLAN AMENDMENT. UM, WE, UH, WE DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A GOOD TRANSITION USE FROM THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD TO, UH, BANDERA ROAD. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE ZONING MAP ON EITHER SIDE OF OUR TRACK, THERE IS, UH, EITHER C THREE OR C TWO AND A, UH, EXISTING USES. UH, I THINK THERE'S A QUICK TRIP RIGHT NEXT TO US, UM, WITH SOME STORAGE UNITS AND, AND OTHER COMMERCIAL TYPE USES. UH, WE FEEL, WE FEEL LIKE OUR COMMUNITY WOULD BE THE PERFECT TRANSITION BACK TO THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ON TWO SIDES. UM, AT THIS POINT I AM GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JEAN LASHAW TO, UH, DESCRIBE THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND THE, UH, COMMUNITY ITSELF. THANK YOU. HI, THIS IS JEAN LASHAW. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY, GREAT. UH, YEAH, THE, THE VIDEO'S KIND A BIT BEHIND, SO, UM, I'LL JUST PRESS THAT. UM, UH, BUT THIS IS . I REPRESENT EDCO , WE ARE THE DEVELOPER. AND, UM, TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON NOW, YOUR VOICE IS A LITTLE LOW. DO YOU MIND, UM, MAYBE MOVING CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE? UM, SURE. YOU KNOW WHAT I WILL? YEAH. JEAN, YOU'RE VERY HARD TO HEAR. IS THIS BETTER? YES. IS THIS BETTER? YES, THAT'S BETTER NOW. OKAY, GREAT. PERFECT. [03:15:01] PERFECT. UM, SO WE ARE, UH, PROPOSING, UH, 216 UNITS HERE. UM, AND, AND I DID WANT TO START WITH KIND OF OUR, OUR THOUGHT PROCESS. IT, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S PARTLY WHAT KEN WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THIS JUST BEING A NATURAL TRANSITION, UM, FROM THAT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, TO, TO SINGLE FAMILY, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK FOR AMENITIES FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE SITES. UM, AS HE MENTIONED, THERE'S A PICTURE RIGHT THERE. THERE'S ALSO A WALGREENS IN THE CORNER OF VANDER AND ZEL. AND THEN AS ALL OF US KNOW, AT VANDER AND 1604 A, A VERY LARGE COMMERCIAL CENTER. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. UM, UH, FINANCED WITH 4% HOUSING TAX CREDIT, SO VERY MUCH WORKFORCE HOUSING. SO ALL OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT LOWE'S, THE TARGET, ALL ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THOSE ARE WHERE A LOT OF THESE FOLKS WILL WORK. AND, AND WE DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE, UM, ACCESS TO PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, ACCESS TO THOSE BIG COMMERCIAL CENTERS. AND THEN, AS KEN SAID, AS JUST AYA USE. UM, UM, IT IS A NATURAL TRANSITION. UM, I DO WANNA SPEAK TO SOME OF, UH, FIRST OFF, THE OUTREACH THAT WE'VE DONE. UM, IT STARTED BACK IN APRIL. I'VE HAD SEVERAL PHONE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORS IN STONEFIELD AND ON OAK. UM, I'VE MET SOME OF THEM IN PERSON, UM, VERY SAFELY. UM, OUTSIDE, WE WALKED THE SITE FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS. UM, WE HAVE OFFERED, UH, RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT INCLUDE A SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALL ALONG THE WEST AND SOUTH PORTIONS OF THE SITE, UM, ALONG WITH, UM, A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS HAS ZONED OUR SIX, SOME OF MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND I REALIZED THAT Y'ALL GOT A LOT OF, OF PUBLIC'S OPPOSITION. BUT I DID HAVE SOME, SOME VERY, VERY USEFUL CONVERSATIONS WITH, WITH SOME OF THOSE FOLKS. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID NOT LIKE WAS THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT DOWN THE STREET WHERE A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPER ZONED OUR SIX, I BELIEVE, TO CAME IN AND JUST SPEAR CUT EVERYTHING AND BUILT RIGHT UP TO THEIR PROPERTY LINE. WE ARE OFFERING, LIKE I SAID, A SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A SIGNIFICANT SETBACK SO THAT THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN IN THIS CASE. ALSO, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE LENDS ITSELF TO WHERE WE WOULDN'T BE TOWERING OVER, UM, THE NEIGHBORS IF BOTH TOWARDS PAN ROAD AND AWAY FROM, UH, THE NEIGHBORS BOTH TO THE WEST AND THE SOUTH. UM, BUT WHAT I DO WANNA TOUCH ON TOO IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED, UM, IN THE POLICY MAKING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND THE FACT IS THERE IS A VERY, VERY CLEAR SCORING SYSTEM ON, UM, ON HOW TO EVALUATE SITES AND DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THAT FITS IN THE CITY'S POLICY WITH RESPECT TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THIS IS A VERY HIGH SCORING SITE. UM, IT HAS A, A LOW POVERTY CENSUS TRACT. IT'S CLOSE TO ALL OF THOSE AMENITIES THAT WE MENTIONED, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT TO US, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY. THIS SITE IS WITHIN ONE MILE OF OVER 3,600 JOBS. THAT IS REALLY, REALLY SIGNIFICANT. UM, AND JUST A COUPLE OTHER THINGS TOO. YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT SOME OF THE TYPICAL, UM, CONCERNS ABOUT MULTIFAMILY, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE GOING FROM AN R SIX TO AN M F 18, IS A GENERATION. UM, THE FACT IS THIS, THIS WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 114 PM PEAK TRIPS, AND I THINK YOU COULD EASILY MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT YOU COULD BUILD ANYWHERE FROM 70 TO 90 LOTS AS THIS IS CURRENTLY ZONED, AND SINGLE FAMILY WOULD GENERATE 70 TO 90 PM C TRIPS. SO THE DIFFERENCE THERE IS REALLY, REALLY NOT SIGNIFICANT. I KNOW THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT IS GOING TO DO WITH BANDERA ROAD, BUT I REALLY, REALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF BANDERA ROAD SHOULD PUT A STOP TO MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS MEETING THE POLICY OBJECTIVES OF THE MAYOR, THE ENTIRE CITY COUNCIL WHO HAVE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THEY WANT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT SITE JUST LIKE THIS. UM, I WILL LEAVE IT FOR QUESTIONS. I'M CLEARLY KIND OF PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS SITE AND WE WOULD REALLY, REALLY LOVE, UM, TO HAVE OUR PRODUCT. THANK YOU. UM, PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE DO. YES, MA'AM. WE HAVE VOICEMAILS AND SEVERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS TO READ. WE WILL START WITH VOICEMAILS. UH, STANDBY PLEASE. HI, THIS IS DR. KELLY. I JUST DICTATED A, UH, REPORT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WENT THROUGH. [03:20:01] SO I'M GONNA READ DICTATE. UM, I, UH, MY, MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 632-0900. THE CASE NUMBER IS 1 7 8. IT BEGINS BY GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JERRY R. KELLY, MD. I'M CALLING TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO REZONING REQUEST ON THE PROPERTY WHICH BORDERS MY HOME CASES NUMBER IS ZULU 2 0 2 0 T 1 0 7 0 0 1 7 8. I LIVE AT 89 39 RACHEL'S BRANCH IN THE BROAD OAK OAK SUBDIVISION AND THE PROPOSED APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY BEHIND MY BACKYARD. I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, WHICH WOULD BE GENERATED BY SUCH A DENSE DEVELOPMENT IN SUCH A CONCENTRATED AREA AND THE ASSOCIATED EFFECTS ON SAFETY AND QUALITY OF LIFE. IN ADDITION, I'M ALSO OPPOSED TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DESTRUCTION WHICH WILL BE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT. I BELIEVE THESE CONCERNS WOULD BE GREATLY ALLEVIATED. THE ZONING WERE TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY AND THE PROPERTY WERE TO BE DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH EXISTING ZONING CATEGORIES. I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO REJECT THIS ZONING CONTEST AND REMAIN JERRY R. KELLY MD. THANK YOU. YES. MY NAME IS JONATHAN MORENO. MY ADDRESS IS NINETY ONE FIFTEEN SHADY STONE DRIVE. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 708-2878. THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO THE ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CASE NUMBER Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 0 1 7 8. I HIGHLY OPPOSED TO HAVING APARTMENTS BEING BUILT BEHIND MY HOME. I BOUGHT THIS HOME FOR THE SOLE REASON THAT THERE WAS A GREEN BELT. ONLY HAVING APARTMENTS HERE WOULD DEFINITELY BRING DOWN MY VALUE OF THE HOME. NOT ONLY THAT, IT WILL INCREASE CRIME. 80% OF CRIME TAKES PLACE AT APARTMENT COMPLEXES. IT'S, IT'S A PROVEN FACT HERE IN BEXAR COUNTY AND SAN ANTONIO AND TEXAS. THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE IN ONE CENTRALIZED LOCATION, THE MORE VIOLENCE THAT THERE IS. IT'S, IT'S, IT'S STATISTICALLY PROVEN, NOT ONLY THAT SECOND. SECOND, OUR, THERE ARE MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THIS AREA. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE ANY MORE PEOPLE HERE LIVING WHEN LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES UP THE ROAD AT LEON CREEK, THERE'S A EXACT SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN BUILT AND IS IT IS DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW. IT IS AT 55% IF NOT MORE, OF VACANCY, WHICH MEANS THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE AT THAT LOCATION, WHICH MEANS THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY NEED FOR A NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. RIGHT BEHIND STONEFIELD ON BENDERA CLOSER TO 1604, I HIGHLY OPPOSE THIS. DO NOT DO THIS. HELLO, THIS IS LINDA CALDWELL AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN THREE SIX FIVE FIVE TWO SIX THREE. I LIVE IN THE OAKS OF STONEFIELD. I'M CALLING FOR OPPOSITION TO ZONING CHANGE CASE Z 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 7 8. WHY AM I OPPOSED? WE TAXPAYERS HAVE ALREADY SPENT MILLIONS ON THE MADERA CORRIDOR PROJECT AND NOW THOSE MONIES ARE TO BE WASTED BY A THREE STORY HIGH SACRAMENT PACKHAM APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT'S GOING TO BRING ANYWHERE FROM THREE TO 400 CARS ONTO A STEEL CONGESTED BANDERA ROAD AREA. MOREOVER, WE'VE ALREADY GOT ABOUT FIVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WITHIN TWO MILES OF THIS PROPERTY. WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER SA AND PACKHAM. AND FINALLY, PEOPLE MOVE OUT TO THE SUBURBS. SO EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE THEY GET TO WAVE 10 NEIGHBOR OR NEIGHBORS NOW AND THEN NOT WAVE AND WONDER WHO THESE DOZENS OF STRANGERS ARE WHO MOVE IN AND OUT OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND WHO STARE INTO OUR WINDOWS, BEDROOMS, BATHROOMS, LIVING ROOMS, AND WONDER WHO ARE THEY. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO APARTMENT COMPLEXES COMMISSION, BUT WE NEED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS AREA. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TO THE COMMISSION. GOODBYE. MY NAME IS MEGAN WISE VALDEZ. I LIVE AT 99 10 STONEFIELD PLACE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 5 4. I AM CALLING TO URGE THE MEMBERS OF THE VOTING THE ZONING [03:25:01] COMMISSION TO DENY THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 0 DASH 0 7 0 1 7 8. I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS REQUEST BECAUSE IT WILL BACK UP TO A FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WILL INCREASE LIGHT POLLUTION IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC, WHICH IS ALREADY DIFFICULT TO SOMETIMES ACCESS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WILL ALSO LEAD TO NOISE POLLUTION AS THE TREE BUFFER. THERE IS ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT SEPARATES OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE HEAVY TRAFFIC OF BANDERA AND EVEN 1604. I WORRY TOO ABOUT THE SAFETY OF OUR CHILDREN AS IT WILL BE BACKING UP TO A NEW AREA OF UNKNOWN RESIDENTS. EVEN IF A FENCE IS PROVIDED, WE KNOW THAT FENCES DON'T STOP EVERYBODY. ALSO, I BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL CHANGE THE FEEL OF THIS SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD TUCKED AWAY BEHIND AN ALREADY HEAVY COMMERCE AREA. AGAIN, I URGE YOU TO DENY THIS ZONING REQUEST CHANGE AND ALLOW THOSE OF US WHO HAVE CHOSEN A SMALL SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD TO MAINTAIN THAT STYLE LIFESTYLE AS THAT IS WHY WE PURCHASED IN THIS AREA. I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE REDUCTION IN HOME VALUE IF THE FEEL OF THIS AREA IS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS SANDRA MCKENZIE. I'M AT ONE ZERO TWO TWO TWO WILDERNESS GAP. MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 274-8524. THE CASE NUMBER IS 1 7 8. I'M ONE OF 12 PROPERTY OWNERS IN OAKS OF STONEFIELD WHOSE BACKYARDS WILL BE RIGHT UP AGAINST THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX IN QUESTION. I WOULD NEVER HAVE PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY HAD I KNOWN ABOUT THIS POSSIBILITY. IN FACT, I'M EXTREMELY WORRIED THAT WHEN I DO WANT TO SELL IN THE FUTURE, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX ESSENTIALLY IN MY BACKYARD. A CAR APARTMENT COMPLEX IS BY NATURE, COME WITH MORE NOISE AND TRAFFIC AND NOT TO MENTION THAT ANYONE ON A SECOND FLOOR OR HIGHER UNIT WILL BE ABLE TO LOOK INTO MY YARD WITH A BIRD EYE VIEW. UH, INVADING MY PRIVACY, I DO OPPOSE THIS ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. YOUR ZONING COMMISSION. MY WIFE AND I ARE 20 YEAR HOMEOWNERS LIVING AT 1 0 3 0 6 WILDERNESS GAP ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY BEING CONSIDERED FOR REZONING. I'M A TAXPAYER LOCAL BUSINESS LEADER AND VETERAN. WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST BEING CONSIDERED IN CASE NUMBER Z 20 21 0 7 DOUBLE 0 1 7 8. THE OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY WILL SELL IT TO A COMPANY THAT WILL DEVELOP A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. WE ARE VERY CONCERNED WITH THE IMPACT THAT THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX OF MORE THAN 200 UNITS WILL HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY RESIDENTS OF STONEFIELD AND BROAD OAK. IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL SEE A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN PROPERTY VALUE, WHICH WILL RIPPLE ACROSS OUR SUBDIVISIONS. IS THIS 13 ACRE SITE, TWO SMALL FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? WELL JUST DOWN BANDERA AND PUZZLE, THERE IS A HOME DEVELOPMENT UNDER CONSTRUCTION THAT IS ON ONLY 11 ACRES OF LAND. THIS PROPERTY CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE A NEIGHBORHOOD OF HOMES THAT WILL COMPLIMENT SURROUNDING SUBDIVISIONS. THERE IS A PERCEPTION THAT APARTMENTS WILL DECREASE HOME VALUES, INCREASE CRIME, AND MAKE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE AREA MORE DIFFICULT TO SELL. WHILE SOME OF THESE PERCEPTIONS MAY NOT BE REALITY, THEY ARE REALITY IN THE MINDS OF POTENTIAL HOME BUYERS WHEN CONSIDERING THEIR PURCHASE. IMAGINE TRYING TO SELL YOUR HOME THAT IS NEXT TO A MASSIVE APARTMENT COMPLEX. IMAGINE IF THE VIEW FROM YOUR LIVING ROOM IS 35 FOOT TALL, THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS. WOULD YOU PURCHASE THIS HOME? THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL PUT ADDITIONAL PRESSURE ON OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM. OUR SCHOOL TAXES WILL INCREASE AS THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SCHOOL SPACE INCREASES. THE LAST POINT WE WANNA MAKE IS THAT THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON BANDERA IS BAD ENOUGH TO EXIT ONTO BANDERA FROM STONE CROSS. DUE TO THE LOCAL TRAFFIC, ADDING ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX TO THIS AREA WILL ONLY INCREASED CONGESTION. FOR ALL OF THESE REASONS, DAWN AND I WOULD ASK THAT YOU VOTE NOT IN FAVOR OF THIS ZONING CHANGE. RESPECTFULLY, EMMA AND DON LASSETER, PHONE NUMBER (210) 887-9105. THANK YOU. GOOD. THOSE ARE ALL OUR LIVE CALLERS. NOW I WILL PROCEED WITH THE WRITTEN COMMENT. I'M A HOMEOWNER IN THE STONEFIELD ESTATE SUBDIVISION. I HAVE OWNED MY HOME IN THE SUBDIVISION SINCE 1999. THE PURPOSE OF THIS EMAIL TO YOU IS TO VOICE MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING CHANGE Z 20 21 0 7 0 1 7 8. THAT IS IN PROGRESS FOR THE 13 ACRE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE ADJACENT [03:30:01] TO THE STONEFIELD AND BRAUN OAK SUBDIVISION. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IF THIS REZONING CHANGE IS APPROVED, THE BUILDER HEAD COURT HOUSING INTENDS TO BUILD AT LEAST 200 APARTMENTS ON THE 13 ACRE LAND. SIDED ABOVE HEADQUARTERS RECENTLY DEVELOPED THE TRAILS AT LEON CREEK ON BANDERA ROAD. THESE ARE MASSIVE THREE STORY APARTMENT BUILDINGS. AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NEXT TO STONEFIELD AND BRA OAKS WILL LOWER PROPERTY VALUES AND THE STONES FIELD AND BRAUN OAK SUBDIVISIONS BECAUSE BASED ON A REVIEW OF HEAD COURT'S WEBSITE, SOME OF THESE APARTMENTS WILL BE LOWER INCOME HOUSING, INCOME HOUSING. IT WILL MAKE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO SELL HOMES IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO OR NEAR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. TRAFFIC ON BANDERA ROAD NEXT TO STONEFIELD AND BRAUN OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD IS ALREADY HEAVY. THE PROPOSED APARTMENT COMPLEX CONSTRUCTION WOULD ONLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC. FINALLY, ALTHOUGH PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES DO NOT NECESSARILY CAUSE MORE CRIME, CONSTRUCTION OF THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX PROVIDES AN INCREASED OPPORTUNITY FOR CRIME IN OUR AREA. THE INCREASED POPULATION DENSITY IN OUR AREA THAT WOULD RESULT FROM CONSTRUCTION OF THIS NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX COUPLED WITH THE DECREASED PROPERTY VALUES, WOULD CREATE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CRIMINAL ELEMENTS TO MOVE INTO THE AREA. AS AN EXAMPLE, WHEN THE BRISTOL AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPLEX WAS BUILT OFF GIBO ROAD, TESLA ROAD AREA, HOMEOWNERS IN THIS AREA REPORTED AN INCREASE IN CRIME. PARTICULARLY CAR BREAK IS I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO SUPPORT HOMEOWNERS IN STONEFIELD AND BRA OAKS. SINCERELY, KEVIN SS THOMPSON. I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY. I'VE LIVED IN MY HOME ON 9 2 2 7 LIMESTONE HILL IN THE STONEFIELD COMMUNITY FOR THREE YEARS. MY PROPERTY IS IN THIS ZONE FOR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND I AM EXTREMELY CONCERNED AND DISMAYED AT THIS REZONING POSITION. I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR TRAVEL ON BANDERA ROAD DUE TO THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC THAT MULTIFAMILY RESIDENCES WILL CREATE. SINCE I HAVE LIVED HERE, I HAVE SEEN MANY ACCIDENTS DUE TO HEAVY TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH THE STONEFIELD NEIGHBORHOOD. ADDITIONALLY, I'M EXTREMELY CONCERNED THAT SO MANY LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN BUILT INTO THIS AREA AND AN ADDITIONAL ONE IS NOW BEING PROPOSED. AS I'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED, BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IS AN AREA IS ALREADY EXTREMELY CONGESTED. EVEN WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF OVER 200 RESIDENCES IN THE SAME LOCATION. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX JUST BECAUSE A CORPORATION WANTS TO MAKE MONEY BY BUILDING AN ADDITIONAL COMPLEX, I AM CONCERNED THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ADEQUATE SCHOOL, POLICE AND OTHER SERVICES TO SUPPORT AN INFLUX OF ADDITIONAL CITIZENS WITHOUT ADEQUATE EVALUATION AND PREPARATION BEFORE BUILDING THESE TYPES OF PROPERTIES, I AM A RETIRED SENIOR CITIZEN AND LIVE ON A FIXED INCOME. ADDITIONAL INCREASES IN TAXES WILL CAUSE ME TO HAVE TO RELOCATE FROM MY HOME BECAUSE I CANNOT CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL POPULATION GROWTH IN THIS AREA. THE FAMILIES THAT RENT THE APARTMENTS DO NOT PAY TAXES SO THAT LEAVES THE BURDEN ON THE HOMEOWNERS. UNFORTUNATELY, THESE TYPES OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS WILL ALSO CAUSE THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY TO DECLINE. IT IS VERY SAD THAT I HAVE TO, THAT I HAVE WORKED HARD SO MANY YEARS TO NOW HAVE MY INVESTMENT DECREASE IN VALUE BECAUSE A CORPORATE DEVELOPER WISHES TO OVERBUILD APARTMENT COMPLEX COMPLEXES NEAR MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT THE AREA BEING PROPOSED FOR REZONING IS CONVENIENTLY LOCATED CLOSE TO SHOPPING AND HIGHWAYS, IT IS NOT FAIR THAT THIS AREA SHOULD BECOME A LARGE AREA OF APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME POLITO AT 92 27 LIMESTONE HILL. I AM STRONGLY IN OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE PROPERTY SEVEN Z 20 21 0 7 8. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON BLAKE OAK RUN IN BRA OAKS SINCE 2000 WHEN WE MOVED FROM CORPUS CHRISTI. WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED AND DISMAYED AT THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF COUNTLESS BEAUTIFUL LARGE OAKS AND ELM TREES, OF WHICH I AM SURE INCLUDE MANY HERITAGE TREES. THE VEGETATION ON THIS PROPERTY PROVIDES A CRITICAL VIS VISUAL AND SOUND BUFFER TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THE EXISTING AND EVER-GROWING BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC WE'RE THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING, WE BELIEVE MANY MORE OF THE TREES WOULD LIKELY BE SAVED AS WAS DONE WHEN WE SELECTED THIS LOT WITH ED HARRINGTON, THE DEVELOPER. IN ADDITION, WE ARE WORRIED [03:35:01] ABOUT THE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR TRAVEL ON BANDERA ROAD THAT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL CREATE. THIS WOULD BE A CONCERN EVEN IF THE PROPERTY WERE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY, BUT DOUBT DOUBTLY CONCERNING DOUBLY, EXCUSE ME, DOUBLY CONCERNING FOR MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. AS WE ALL KNOW, BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS EVEN WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF 200 NEW RESIDENCES IN SUCH A CONCENTRATED LOCATION. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND URGE THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT US BY OPPOSING THIS REZONING REQUEST. SINCERELY, ELIZABETH PATTERSON 88 38 OAK LAKE OAK RUN RIGHT TO EXPRESS EXPRESS STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST NOTED FOR THE ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY. WE HAVE LIVED AT 89 34 RACHEL BRANCH FOR 11 YEARS AND SINCE WE ARE NEAR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WE FEEL WE WILL BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXPECTED FUTURE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS AFFECTING BANDERA ROAD AND 1604 PRU ROAD AND TESLA ROAD FOR THOSE OF US WHO COMMUTE TO WORK, SCHOOL, ET CETERA. THE REQUEST TO REZONE TO MF 18, THIS IS A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, IS ALARMING BECAUSE OF THE NUMBERS OF POTENTIAL VEHICLES THAT WILL TRAVEL IN THIS AREA. AS WE ARE NOW IN THIS PANDEMIC, THE TRUE IMPACT MAY NOT BE CONCERNING BUT ONCE WE RETURN TO OUR NORMAL DAILY LIVES, WE WILL SEE AND EXPERIENCE THE FULL IMPACT OF THIS CONGESTION. IN ADDITION, IN THE PAST WE HAVE EXPERIENCED WATER PRESSURE ISSUES AND WITH THIS ADDED STRAIN I PREDICT WE WILL CONTINUE TO SEE THIS PROBLEM INCREASE. ALSO, WE ARE DISMAYED AT THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF THE MATURE OAK AND CEDAR ELM TREES AND THE VEGETATION AND ANIMAL INHABITANTS THAT WILL BE AFFECTED. THE TREES AND PLANTS ARE A NATURAL SOUND BUFFER OF THE BUSY TRAFFIC ON BANDERA ROAD. WE HAVE EXPERIENCE WHERE ALL THE TREES WERE MOWED DOWN TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE QT STORE AT THE CORNER OF ZEL AND BANDERA. WE ARE NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS PROPERTY IS NEEDED IN THIS AREA. WE DO NOT BELIEVE VIA WILL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ADDED NEEDS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE GREATLY CONCERNED THAT BANDERA ROAD WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SAFELY ACCOMMODATE THE ADDED CONGESTION AND WE ARE GREATLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF TRAFFIC AND OF ADDED PEOPLE ON THIS BUSY ROAD. RESPECTFULLY, THE D C F UH BID AT 89 34 RACHEL BRANCH KEVIN LUCAS WRITES, WE ARE ADAMANTLY OPPOSED TO REZONING OF THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE 11,000 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD. ADDITIONAL MULTI-STORY APARTMENTS WOULD INCREASE CRIME AND DECREASE SAFETY IN OUR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE HAD ON SEVERAL PREVIOUS OCCASIONS TO WASTE OUR VALUABLE TIME OPPOSING THIS REZONING. WHEN IT IS BROUGHT UP AGAIN AND AGAIN. THE REZONING COMMISSION HAS SAID NO TO THIS PROPOSED ACTION ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE REZONING AND PLEASE MAKE A NOTE THIS REZONING SHOULD NEVER BE CHANGED. SINCERELY, LEONARD, KEVIN MURIN AND VIRGINIA AND MURIN PROPERTY OWNERS 1 0 2 2 6 WILDERNESS GAP, WE ARE WRITING TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY. WE HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON BLAKE OAK RUN AND BRA OAK FOR OVER 20 YEARS. THE BRA OAK SUBDIVISION DIRECTLY ABOVE THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED AND DISMAYED AT THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF COUNTLESS MAJESTIC OAK AND CEDAR ELM TREES. THIS VEGETATION PROVIDES A NECESSARY VISUAL AND SOUND BUFFER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THE EXISTING BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC. WE FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING, WE BELIEVE MANY OF THE EXISTING TREES WOULD LIKELY BE SAVED AS THE DEVELOPER OF BRA OAKS DID WHEN THEY TOOK GREAT PAINS TO MAINTAIN AS MANY OLD STATELY TREES AS POSSIBLE WHEN CONSTRUCTION OF THE SUBDIVISION BEGAN 37 YEARS AGO. THEIR RESPECT FOR THE PRESERVATION OF OUR AREA'S BEAUTIFUL TREES IS WHAT DREW MANY OF US TO MAKE OUR HOME IN BRAUN OAKS. IT. IN ADDITION, WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR TRAVEL ON BANDERA ROAD THAT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL CREATE. [03:40:03] THIS WOULD BE OF CONCERN EVEN IF THE PROPERTY WERE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, BUT IT IS DOUBLY CONCERNING FOR A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. AS WE ALL KNOW, BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IS IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS EVEN WITHOUT ADDITION OF OVER 200 NEW RESIDENCES IN SUCH A CONCENTRATED LOCATION. RESPECTFULLY, LOUIS VARGAS AND ANNA VARGAS AT 88 34 LAKE OAK RUS RAY KITCHEN RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON TO YOU ALL. ANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS EVEN WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF 200 NEW RESIDENCES IS SUCH A CONCENTRATED LOCATION. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND URGE THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORT. OH, I'M SORRY I READ, I READ THE WRONG WAY AT. WE'RE GONNA START OVER FOR THE KITCHEN FOR RAY KITCHEN AND BRAD KITCHEN AT 1 0 3 2 2 CRYSTAL. AS HOMEOWNERS IN STONEFIELD ESTATE, WE ARE REACHING OUT TO EXPRESS OUR DISCONTENT IN OPPOSITION WITH THE ATTEMPT TO HAVE 13 ACRES BETWEEN RACHEL'S BRANCH AND BANDERA REZONED TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF 216 APARTMENT UNITS. THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS INITIATIVE ON BEHALF OF OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATION TO SATURATE THIS AREA OF DISTRICT SEVEN WITH APARTMENT DEVELOPMENT. THERE ARE ALREADY A MULTITUDE OF APARTMENT UNITS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THIS AREA WITHIN ONE TO TWO MILES. AS HOMEOWNERS, IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE CHARACTER AND VALUE OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY BE PRESERVED AND PROTECTED FROM THE INHERENT NEGATIVE EFFECTS THAT RESULT FROM THE CONCENTRATED OVERDEVELOPMENT AND SATURATION OF MULTIFAMILY UNITS. WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THE MATTER VIA LIVE COMMUNICATION. OUR VOTE FOR REPRESENTATION HANGS ON MAKING SURE THOSE WHO HOLD OFFICE AND THAT ARE HERE TO REPRESENT US ARE NOT HARMING US. PLEASE REGISTER OUR OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING ATTEMPT RAY AND BRAD KITCHEN AT 1 0 3 2 2 CRYSTAL FIELD. I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST REGARDING THE PROPERTY IN THE ABOVE CASE. WE ARE SURROUNDED BY MATURE OAK AND CEDAR TREES THAT NOT ONLY ENHANCE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUT REDUCE THE NOISE FACTOR. THIS AREA IS ALREADY CONGESTED AND THE REZONING PROPOSAL WOULD ONLY ENHANCE THE SITUATION WE HAVE. WE HAVE SEVERAL APARTMENTS IN THE AREA AND A NEW SUBDIVISION BEING BILLED IN THE AREA. PLEASE CONSIDER ALL THESE FACTORS AND I HOPE YOU SUPPORT MY REQUEST TO OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST, REUBEN BEVIS AT 89 30 RACHEL FRENCH. I AM WRITING TO OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST OF ZONING KC 20 21 0 7 0 1 7 8 REZONING PETITION FROM R SIX TO M F 18 ON BANDERA ROAD. WE HAVE LIVED IN STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION FOR OVER 16 YEARS AND HAVE SEEN HOW TRAFFIC ON BANDERA ROAD AND CUTTING THROUGH STONEFIELD AND SILVERBROOK HAS GOTTEN WORSE EACH YEAR. IN ADDITION, I AM BROKEN HEARTBROKEN THAT EVEN MORE OAK TREES AND WILD GREEN SPACE WILL BE BOTH BULLDOZED FOR YET ANOTHER HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. I'M URGING YOU AND THE REST OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING REQUEST. KATHY JASO AT 1 0 4 2 3 BLACKSTONE CREEK JAYNA ER. I'M WRITING TO OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST OF ZONING KD 2020. WE HAVE LIVED IN STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION FOR OVER 14 YEARS. WE HAVE SEEN HOW TRAFFIC ON 1604 M BANDERA AND CUTTING THROUGH STONEFIELD AND SILVERBROOK HAS GOTTEN WORSE EACH YEAR. THE SCHOOLS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THESE NEW HOMES ARE BURDENED AS IS WITHOUT ADDING ADDITIONAL STRAINS TO ALREADY LIMITED RESOURCES. IN ADDITION, I AM HEARTBROKEN THAT EVEN MORE OAK TREES AND WILD GREEN SPACE WILL BE BULLDOZED FOR YET ANOTHER HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. I'M URGING YOU AND THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL TO OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST. RESPECTFULLY, DANA, I STRONGLY OBJECT. THIS AREA IS ONE OF THE MOST CONGESTED AREAS IN SAN ANTONIO. BANDERA ROAD FROM 1604 AND SOUTH IS ALREADY IN SERIOUS CONGESTION. DURING COMMUTING HOURS AND BEYOND, THE PROPOSED PLAN WILL INCREASE CONGESTION AND NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE MANY WORKING CLASS FAMILIES WHO HAVE, WHO LIVE [03:45:01] FAMILIES WHO LIVE AND SCHOOL THEIR CHILDREN. HERE THIS AREA SIMPLY CANNOT ACCOMMODATE THE INCREASED POPULATION DENSITY THE REZONING WOULD CREATE PATRICK VALLEY 96 43 TURQUOISE CREEK. STEVE TRENCHER. I'M WRITING YOU TODAY TO VOICE MY CONCERNS REGARDING REZONING CASE Z 20 21 0 7 0 1 7 8. AS A PROPERTY OWNER, THIS WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT ME IF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX IS BUILT SO CLOSE TO STONEFIELD. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I DO NOT WANT MY PROPERTY VALUE TO GO DOWN. TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON BANDERA ROAD SLASH 6 16 0 4 IS WORSE THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN AND ALLOWING THESE APARTMENTS WILL ONLY MAKE IT WORSE. LAST INCREASE IN CRIME IN MY AREA, LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES BRING A LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC TO THE AREA AND IT IS INEVITABLE THAT PETTY CRIME WILL FOLLOW. I URGE YOU TO HEAR THE HOMEOWNER'S CONCERNS REGARDING THIS ISSUE. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS REBECCA SCULLY. I AM A RESIDENT OF STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION AT BANDERA 1604. I'M WRITING TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE NEAR BANDERA ROAD AND ROAD. IF THE CHANGE IS APPROVED AND A MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT, THIS ALREADY CONGESTED AREA WILL BECOME EVEN MORE SO. ADDITIONALLY, SCHOOLS THAT ARE ALREADY FILLED TO CAPACITY WILL BE OVERBURDENED WITH THE ADDED RESPONSIBILITY OF FINDING SPACE FOR THE INFLUX OF STUDENTS THEREBY LEADING TO DISPLACEMENT OF STUDENTS INTO NEIGHBORING SCHOOLS. DUE TO OVERBUILDING, NATURAL LANDSCAPING AND TREES HAVE BEEN CLEARED TO NEAR EXTINCTION WITHOUT REGARD FOR THE WISHES OF US RESIDENTS. I HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR OVER 19 YEARS AND I'M APPALLED AT THE INSURMOUNTABLE GROWTH. HOWEVER, THIS PROPOSAL IS BY FAR THE MOST DISTURBING TO DATE. I SINCERELY HOPE YOU WILL RECONSIDER SUPPORTING THE ZONE CHANGE IN THE INTEREST OF MY COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENCE. THANK YOU. REBECCA SLY, JOSEPH MACHETE. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY AFFIRMATIVE OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING OF A PROPERTY REFERENCED ABOVE THAT IS LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF EZ AND PANERA ROAD. MY WIFE AND I MOVED INTO THE OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD FROM THE EAST COAST A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DREW US TO SAN ANTONIO IN GENERAL AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS IN SPECIFIC IS THE AREA'S NATURAL BEAUTY, THE GENERAL CARE AND RESPECT PEOPLE SHOW TO THEIR LAND IS WEALTH SPACE. SINGLE FAMILY AREAS IS FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT THAN IN MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENTS LIKE M F 18. NO SINGLE ACTIVE REZONING DEFINES DEFINES THE BEAUTY OF THE GREATER REGION BUT EACH ONE CONTRIBUTES TO ITS INCREMENTAL DESTRUCTION. IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE MOVED INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IF THIS MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT ALREADY EXISTED HERE AND SIMILARLY LIKELY THAT WE WOULD HAVE NOT CHOSEN SAN ANTONIO AS OUR HOME IF THESE SORTS OF DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPMENTS WERE ENDEMIC TO ALL SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOODS. THE TOTALITY OF THESE ZONING CHANGES HAS REAL AMP IMPACT ON THE ABILITY FOR LOCAL BUSINESS TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN HIGHLY TRAINED TALENT TO THE AREA. PLEASE KEEP THIS IN MIND. CONSIDERING THE ISSUE, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST IS COMING FROM A SPECIFIC APARTMENT COMPLEX DEVELOPER. IF SO, PLEASE CONSIDER THE FULL EXTERNAL COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE ZONING CHANGE THAT IN TRUE CAPITALIST FASHION ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE FAIRLY BORN BY THE DEVELOPER. THIS INCLUDES EVERYTHING FROM ADDITIONAL POLICE NEEDED TO POWER DEMANDS TO TRANSIT CONSUMED AND ROADS BUILT OUT TO MITIGATE ALREADY OVERLY CONGESTED ARTERIAL ROAD. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME AND THAT WAS JOSEPH ETT AT 89 23 SHADY HILLS, JD MILLER WHERE DANIEL MILLER. RIGHT. I HAVE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT AN AREA OF LAND IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR REZONING FOR USE FOR A 216 UNIT APARTMENT. I LIVE IN THE STONEFIELD ESTATE SUBDIVISION AND THE AREA OF LAND LOCATED BETWEEN BANDERA ROAD AND RACHEL'S BRANCH. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ACTION AND ASK THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN. THE AREA IS ALREADY HEAVILY CONGESTED AND SUCH A LARGE PROJECT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT THE ENVIRONMENT WITH WATER RUNOFF. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. DANIEL MILLER. MY WIFE AND I LIVE IN THE STONEFIELD H O A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ORDERS [03:50:01] THE PROPOSED MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX PROPOSED BY PETS FOUR ON BANDERA ROAD. WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED IN SAN ANTONIO FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND DO NOT OBJECT TO THAT CONCEPT PER SE. OUR CONCERNS ARE AS FOLLOWS, ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON BANDERA ROAD THAT AT LAST ESTIMATE SEES USAGE USAGE ESTIMATED AT 65,000 TO 80,000 VEHICLES PER DAY WITH NO VIABLE PLAN FOR IMPROVING THE TRAFFIC FLOW, THE ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF LOSING ANOTHER 13 ACRES OF TREES, MANY OF WHICH COULD BE SAVED IF THIS AREA WAS DEVELOPED AS PROVIDED BY CURRENT ZONING FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING HEADQUARTER JUST COMPLETED A 296 UNIT COMPLEX AT THE TRAILS OF OX CREEK AT 76 16 BANDERA ROAD, WHICH IS ONLY THREE MILES SOUTH OF THE PLANNING COMPLEX OF 216 UNITS. I BELIEVE THEY RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR THE TRAILS COMPLEX IN JANUARY OF 2017 AND IT TOOK MORE THAN THREE YEARS TO COMPLETE THREE YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC IN ADDITION TO THE DAILY NOISE, DUST AND NORMAL TRAFFIC WILL PLACE AN UNFAIR BURDEN ON THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. WE ARE ASKING THAT THE REZONING REQUESTS BE DENIED FOR THE VOTE POSTPONED. WE HOPE THIS WILL GIVE THE COMMUNITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEARCH THE FACTS SURROUNDING SUB SUBSIDIZED MS HOUSING UNITS AND THEIR INTEGRATION INTO A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING NEIGHBORHOOD. TO DATE THERE HAVE BEEN NO COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS WITH PCOR. I KNOW THERE ARE ARE A NUMBER OF OPINIONS AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSED MF HOUSING UNIT ON THE COMMUNITY AND THE ADDITIONAL TIME MIGHT HELP ADDRESS THESE ISSUES. REGARDS LA LAURA AND TERRANCE PRTY AT 1 0 6 3 1 BLUESTONE CREEK ZACH TURNOFF. I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE C 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 7 8. THERE SIMPLY CANNOT BE ADDITIONAL POPULATION DENSITY TO THIS AREA WITHOUT ANY PLAN FOR TRAFFIC CONGESTION RELIEF. FURTHERMORE, THE PROPOSED AREA IS ONE OF THE FEW REMAINING GREEN SPACES ON THIS PORTION OF BANDERA ROAD CORRIDOR. REMOVING THE GREEN SPACE AND ADDING ADDITIONAL POPULATIONS WILL ACCELERATE NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT AND REDUCTION OF AIR QUALITY. I'M URGING YOU IN THE REST OF COUNSEL TO OPPOSE THIS REZONING REQUEST AND MR. OCK ADDRESS IS 1 0 3 0 2 SUNSET. NO. I AM A HOMEOWNER WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE PROPERTY PROPOSED FOR REZONING FROM R SIX TO M F 18. I HAVE THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS THAT I HOPE YOU WILL ADDRESS IN THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2021. PEOPLE IN THE AREA HAVE MADE HOME BUYING DECISIONS BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING IN THE AREA. I SEE THERE IS A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY UNDER THE CURRENT R SIX ZONE. WHAT EXACTLY IS BEING PLANNED FOR THE PROPERTY RELATED TO THIS CASE AND WHY CAN'T THE PLANS BE REVISED TO THE CURRENT R SIX ZONING REQUIREMENTS? TWO. WHAT IS DRIVING THE CHANGE? THREE, THE PROPERTY IN THE CASE REFERENCE ABOVE IS IN A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA. HAS THERE BEEN ANY ANALYSIS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE ON IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THE BUILDER'S PLAN? THE SCHOOLS ARE ALL ALREADY OVERCROWDED AND THE ROADS HAVE HEAVY TRAFFIC. IN ADDITION, THERE ARE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION IN THE VICINITY MEANING TRAFFIC WILL INCREASE FROM THESE DEVELOPMENTS AS WELL. I PERSONALLY DO NOT SEE HOW THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE MULTI-FAMILY DWELLING WITH THE CURRENT TRAFFIC AND OVERCROWDED SCHOOLS AND THE INCREASE THAT WILL RESULT FROM THE NEW NEARBY NEARBY HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN THE NEARBY VICINITY. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR ANSWERS IN THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2020. DIANE SAUNDERS AT 89 26 RACHEL'S BRANCH, CYNTHIA MORGA. WE ARE WRITING TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY. WE HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON SHADY STONE DRIVE IN STONEFIELD FOR OVER EIGHT YEARS. OUR EXTREME CONCERN IS THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF COUNTLESS LOGISTIC OAKS AND CEDAR ELM TREE. THIS VEGETATION PROVIDES A VISUAL AND SOUND BUFFER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THE EXISTING BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC NOISE. IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT CRIME RATE INCREASE IN CONGESTION ON BANDERA ROAD. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ASK [03:55:01] AGAIN. ASK THAT THIS REZONING REQUEST BE DENIED. CYNTHIA MORGA AT 9 1 1 9 SHADY STONE DRIVE. ANGELA TRIUM. I AM A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN. I LIVE IN STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION RECENTLY OUR H O A TOLD US THAT THERE ARE PLANS TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX ON THE CORNER OF BANDERA AND TESLA. I BELIEVE THIS WILL BRING DOWN THE VALUE OF MY PROPERTY. I KNOW IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A ZONING CHANGE FROM R SIX TO MF 18. THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE A PLAN AMENDMENT ON THE PROPERTY. THE APPLICANT ALSO INDICATED THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD BE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WITH 218 UNITS. COUNCILWOMAN SON DEVAL DOES NOT SUPPORT ADDING DENSITY TO THE BANDERA ROAD CORRIDOR BEFORE THERE IS A PLAN IN PLACE TO ADDRESS THE CONGESTION. WE SHARED THIS WITH PETCO WHEN THEY FIRST PROPOSED THE PROJECT. I AM ASKING PLEASE DON'T APPROVE THIS ZONING CHANGE. I DON'T WANT ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX BUILT IN THIS AREA. I DON'T WANT MY PROPERTY VALUE TO GO DOWN OR TRAFFIC TO INCREASE IN THIS ALREADY CONGESTED AREA. ANGELA TRYOUT. I AM WRITING TO OPPOSE THE REZONING REQUEST OF ZONING KC 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 78. WE HAVE LIVED IN STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION FOR OVER 16 YEARS AND HAVE SEEN HOW TRAFFIC ON BANDERA ROAD AND CUTTING THROUGH STONEFIELD AND SILVERBROOK HAS GOTTEN WORSE EACH YEAR. IN ADDITION, I AM BROKEN HEARTED HEARTBROKEN THAT EVEN MORE OAK TREES AND WILD GREEN SPACE WILL BE BULLDOZED FOR YET ANOTHER HUGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. I'M MERGING YOU AND THE REST OF COUNCIL TO OPPOSE THE REQUEST. CARRIE JASO AT 1 0 4 2 3 BLACKSTONE BOBBY MEDINA REZONING, I'M AGAINST THIS BUILDING OF APARTMENTS DUE TO CRIME RATE, LOW PROPERTY VALUE AND TAKING NATURE AWAY FROM US. KRISTEN STONE. MY HUSBAND KEVIN STONE AND MYSELF LIVE WITHIN THE BRA OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY ON BANDERA ROAD IN CASE C 20 21 0 7 8. WE HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THIS ZONING CHANGE WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE TRAFFIC IN THE AREA AND HOW IT MAY AFFECT STORMWATER. THE CURRENT PROPOSED LAYOUT PROVIDES A SINGLE ENTRANCE EXIT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT ONTO BANDERA ACROSS FROM BEARING LANE. OUR CHILDREN ATTEND THE GODDARD SCHOOL ON BEARING LANE AND BANDERA SO WE ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS PARTICULAR AREA. FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, THE TURNOUT LEFT ON BANDERA FROM BEARING IS OFTEN SO CONGESTED WITH TRAFFIC WE HAVE TO TURN RIGHT AND THEN MAKE A U-TURN JUST TO GET HOME. THE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY A PROBLEM AND CHANGING THIS ZONING TO HOLD 216 HOUSING UNITS MAKES IT EVEN SCARIER. THE TRAFFIC PROJECTED PROJECTIONS PROVIDED BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE ALARMING. THEY ARE ESTIMATING A PEAK OF 72 VEHICLES AN HOUR TURNING IN AND 72 VEHICLE VEHICLES TURNING OUT DURING EVENING RUSH HOUR AND A 76 CARS AN HOURS TURN IN AND A 76 CARS AN HOUR TURNING OUT ON SATURDAY. TED COURT EVEN NOTED IN THE DEVELOPMENT REQUEST, THEY WILL NOT PRETEND THAT THE WEEKDAY 24 HOUR NUMBER, I SHOULD SAY QUOTE, THEY WILL NOT PRETEND THAT THE WEEKDAY 24 HOUR NUMBER FOR OUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T LOOK BIG. ADDING THIS MUCH TRAFFIC TO AN ALREADY HEAVILY CONGESTED AREA IS NOT SAFE. THIS IS NOT SAFE. ANOTHER CONCERN IS HOW THIS WILL AFFECT STORM STORMWATER IN THE AREA. THERE APPEARS TO BE A SIGNIFICANT MISALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE ZONING COMMISSION AND THE DEVELOPER ON THE AGENDA. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS PLANNING TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AND NOTE THE PROPERTY DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ABNORMAL FEATURES SUCH AS SLOPES AND YET IN THE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO OUR H O A THE PROPERTY DEVELOPERS NOTE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE SLOPES DOWN TO BANDERA ROAD. ADDITIONALLY, THE AERIAL PROVIDED BY THE DEVELOPER NOTES AT LEAST A 21 FOOT CHANGE IN ELEVATION MOVING AWAY FROM BRANO AND TOWARD BANDERA KRISTEN STONE, TERRY AL BEWARE AT 89 23 RACHEL BRANCH, I'M RESPONDING TO THE NOTICE OF A ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING CASE D 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 7 8. I OPPOSED THIS PLAN AS IT WOULD CONGEST TRAFFIC EVEN MORE. MY COMMUNITY WOULD BE LOUD WITH THE [04:00:01] ADDED PLAN AND MY HOME WOULD DECREASE IN VALUE. PLEASE KEEP ME INFORMED AND LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. EDWARD CASTOR I AM OPPOSED TO ITEM NUMBER 14, THE FALL OF 2019. DEVELOPERS ATTENDED THE NORTHWEST NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE TO GAUGE OUR OPINION CONCERNING DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PARCEL. SEVERAL OF US WERE ADAMANT THAT THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THIS PARCEL LENDS TO KEEPING THE PARCEL IN ITS NATURAL STATE CLASS SLASH ZONING DESIGNATION OF R SIX. THE PARCEL IS LOCATED IN THE ARTISAN ARTISAN ZONE, LEON CREEK WATERSHED, FRENCH TRIBUTARY FRENCH CREEK TRIBUTARY. I REQUEST VERIFICATION THAT PARCEL IS A MANDATORY DETENTION AREA FOR WATER RUNOFF. THE COA CONTOUR MAP INDICATES HIGH ELEVATION OF A THOUSAND FEET TO A LOW ELEVATION OF 944 FEET. THE TRAIN AT 944 FEET IS ADJACENT TO STATE HIGHWAY 16. IN FACT, THE ROAD IS ELEVATED WHEN COMPARED TO THIS NATURAL DEPRESSION THAT COLLECTS WATER RUNOFF. IMPERVIOUS COVER HAS INCREASED DUE TO RECENT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ADJACENT TO THIS CAR PARCEL ONCE AGAIN OPPOSED TO ITEM 14, EDWARD CASTER AT 94 62 TRANQUIL PARK DRIVE NUMBER EIGHT DONNA PER MY EMAIL BELOW TO MR. RAMIREZ, I HOPE YOU WILL LISTEN TO THE HOMEOWNERS IN STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION THAT THE REZONING ON THE AREA FOR APARTMENTS WILL CAUSE NOT ONLY PROPERTY VALUE LOSS BUT ALSO TRAFFIC NIGHTMARE MORE THAN IT ALREADY IS. PLEASE DO NOT ALLOW THIS REZONING TO HAPPEN. THANKS DONNA. , MY FAMILY AND I RESIDE IN THE BRAUN ARBOR SUBDIVISION OFF TESLA AND BRAUN. WE ARE A HUNDRED PERCENT AGAINST THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT CHANGE OF ANY RESIDENTIAL BUILDING ALONG THE PROPOSED AREA OF THE 11,000 BLOCKS OF BANDERA ROAD. SINCE THE ADDITION OF THE TRAIL OF LEON CREEK AND CHAMPION GATE APARTMENTS, CRIME HAS ALL HAS STEADILY GONE UP IN THIS AREA. ADDING MORE OF THIS TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL HOUSING IS ONLY GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. NOT TO MENTION THE HORRIFIC TRAFFIC. THIS PROPOSED HOUSING WILL MAKE BANDERA ROAD ALREADY SUFFERS FROM TRAFFIC CONGESTION. EVEN WITH THE NEW TRAFFIC FLOW THAT RECENTLY OPENED, IT WILL ONLY GET WORSE. THIS PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE IS GOING TO DRIVE THE VALUE OF MY HOME DOWN, MAKING IT HARDER FOR US TO SELL. IF WE NEEDED TO LEAVE FOR ANY REASON INCLUDING INCREASED CRIME RATES. OUR SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY TAXED WITH THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE AND THIS TRAINING PROPOSAL WILL WORSEN THIS. WE DO NOT SUPPORT THIS ZONING PROPOSAL AND HOPE THAT YOU WILL LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS IN YOUR AREA. VOTE AGAINST THIS MS. AL, LISTEN TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS WHO HAVE VOTED YOU TO OFFICE. I HAVE A YOUNG CHILD THAT I WANT TO KEEP SAFE AND ADDING LOW INCOME HOUSING WILL MAKE THIS DIFFICULT. THERE WILL CERTAINLY BE EVEN MORE CRIMES IF THIS PROPOSAL OCCURS. PLEASE SUPPORT THOSE WHO HAVE ELECTED YOU TO OFFICE AND VOTE AGAINST THIS PATRICIA MONTEZ AT 88 38 BRIANNA OAKS, WE 100% DO NOT SUPPORT THE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AT THE INTERSECTION OF BANDERA AND TEEL. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD AND JUST BOUGHT OUR FIRST HOME IN BRA OAKS A FEW MONTHS AGO. WE ARE EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED THAT THE TREES WE LOVE WILL BE DESTROYED AND THE ALREADY HIGH TRAFFIC ON BANDERA WILL INCREASE. WE WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A DIFFERENT HOUSE IN A DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD IF WE KNEW OF PLANS FOR THE APARTMENT AREA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. JESSICA PINE LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO PROPOSED REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT OF 11,000 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD. I AM LOUIE GARCIA, A STONEFIELD RESIDENT LIVING AT 1 0 2 0 3 WILDERNESS GAP AS A RESIDENT OF THE STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION. I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO THE PROPOSED REZONING AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE 11,000 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD FROM R SIX TO M F 18. THE PROPOSED M F 18 REZONE ENCOURAGES DENSE LAND, COMMERCIAL AND OFFICE ESTABLISHMENTS AS OPPOSED TO BEING SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE PROPOSED MF REZONE ENCOURAGES DENSE LAND, COMMERCIAL [04:05:01] AND OFFICE ESTABLISHMENTS AS OPPOSED TO BEING SCATTERED THROUGHOUT NEIGHBORHOODS. ACCORDING TO THE TEXAS HIGHWAY RESOURCES, BANDERA ROADS STATE HIGHWAY 16 BETWEEN LOOPS FOUR 10 AND 1604 IN LEON VALLEY AND THE NORTHWEST SAN ANTONIO IS THE EIGHTH MOST CONGESTED ROAD IN THE REGION AND THE 62ND MOST CONGESTED IN THE STATE WITH APPROXIMATELY 30,035,000 VEHICLES USING THE AREA IN QUESTION EACH DAY, ADDING OVER 200 UNITS IN AN ALREADY HIGHLY CONGESTED AREA WILL SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE SAFETY CONCERNS IN THE AREA. AN ONSITE SAFETY SURVEY WILL IDENTIFY THAT THE PROPOSED LOCATION DOES NOT HAVE ADEQUATE STATE HIGHWAY 16 ACCESS AND WILL REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT CITY FUNDED IMPROVEMENTS TO THREE INTERSECTIONS INCLUDING STATE HIGHWAY 16, TESLA ROAD CREW ROAD STATE HIGHWAY 16 STONE CROSS QUINCY LEE DRIVE STATE HIGHWAY 16 LOOP 1604 NORTH. IMPROVEMENTS TO THIS AREA MUST ALSO CONSIDER THE THREE EXISTING ROADSIDE SCHOOLS IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND THE SAFETY OF STUDENTS ATTENDING THEM. FOR EXAMPLE, DROP OFF AND PICKUP THE CURRENT SPEED LIMIT THE PRO THE LIMITED ROADSIDE VIEW FROM THE VEHICLES TRAVELING SOUTHEAST ON STATE HIGHWAY 16. PLEASE DO NOT REZONE THIS SITE TO MF 18 LOUIS GARCIA AT 1 0 2 0 3 WILDERNESS GAS. THIS ONE IS FROM SHERRY AND DOLORES HIRE. WE ARE WRITING TO PROTEST THE REZONING CHANGE REQUEST IN REGARD TO ZONING C 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 78 OFF BANDERA ROAD NEAR ZEL AND PRU ROAD. IN THE 15 YEARS WE HAVE LIVED IN THIS AREA, MUCH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BUT LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON BANDERA ROAD. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THE PROPOSAL TO HAVE ANOTHER LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT BUILT IN THIS AREA, WHICH WILL ONLY COME COMPOUND THE PROBLEM. THIS IS ALL NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF 1604 AND BANDERA ROAD, WHERE BANDERA POINT AND THE H E B PLUS SHOPPING CENTERS ALREADY CAUSED HUGE TRAFFIC CONGESTION. IN RECENT YEARS WITHIN A 1.5 MILE RADIUS, NEW SCHOOLS HAVE OPENED SUCH AS FRANK INSPIRE ACADEMY, THE GODDARD SCHOOL OF SAN ANTONIO, KIDS OF THE KINGDOM EPISCOPAL SCHOOL, THE PILLARS OF C, THE PILLARS CHRISTIAN LEARNING CENTER AND CARL WONKI ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DURING SCHOOL DROP OFF AND PICKUP VEHICLES BACK UP ALONG BANDERA ROAD ON THE SHOULDER CAUSING A TREMENDOUS SAFETY ISSUE. ANYONE TRYING TO MAKE A U-TURN AT A CROSSOVER PUTS THEIR LIFE IN DANGER AS THEY WAIT FOR A TRAFFIC BREAK FROM LIGHTS AT BANDERA ROAD, TESLA ROAD CREW ROAD AND STONE CROSS. QUINCY LEE DRIVE. ANOTHER LARGE MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS BEEN DEVELOPED BY INVESTMENT DEVELOPER PETCO AND RECENTLY OPENED LESS THAN FIVE MILES FROM THIS NEWLY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AS YOU SHOULD ALREADY BE AWARE OF, ANOTHER MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT INVOLVING APARTMENTS HAS BEEN APPROVED NEAR THE NORTHSIDE SWIM CENTER. RESIDENTS FROM THESE COMPLEXES WILL JUST WILL BOTH JUST ADD TO AN ALREADY BACKED UP BANDERA ROAD ON THE SUBJECT OF THOSE NEW RESIDENTS. THEY WILL NOT BE TAXPAYERS. WE PROPERTY OWNERS ALREADY PAY A TREMENDOUS TAX. THAT'S FROM DOLORES AND SHERRY IER AT 1 0 8 0 6 WINTER CREEK AS RESIDENT STONEFIELD NEIGHBORHOOD. I WISH TO EXPRESS NEGATIVE CEILING OF CHANGING ZONING FOR K C 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 7 8 C FAMILY HOMES NEIGHBORHOOD WILL DIRECT BY GIANT APARTMENT COMPLEX. I ASK YOU PLEASE NOT SUPPORT THIS CHANGE. YOU ARE AFFECTING A LOT OF HOME HOMES FAMILIES. PLEASE LEAVE STONEFIELD AS PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD. ROBERT SANCHEZ, 91 27 SHADY STONE DRIVE. WE ARE OPPOSED TO THIS ZONING CHANGE FROM RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. WE HAVE BEEN RESIDENTS FOR 20 YEARS. WE ARE SENIOR CITIZENS, MY HUSBAND IS RETIRED. THE IDEA OF HAVING THIS THREE STORY BUILDING DIRECTLY BEHIND OUR RESIDENCE IS VERY UPSETTING. THE NOISE, LIGHT POLLUTION AND THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL THE TREES AT A TIME WHEN WE SHOULD BE PLANTING TREES DUE TO CLIMATE CHANGE IS VERY UPSETTING. THIS ALONG WITH ALL THE APARTMENTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BUILT, BEEN BUILT ON VANDER ROAD CAUSING TREMENDOUS INCREASE IN TRAFFIC AND CRIME IN THIS AREA HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. [04:10:01] THIS IS A SMALL PLOT OF LAND, WHICH MEANS THESE APARTMENTS WILL BE SQUEEZED IN. THERE IS ALREADY A LOT OF NOISE FROM VANDER ROAD. I CANNOT IMAGINE THE PROBLEMS THIS WILL CAUSE. PLEASE CONSIDER THE TREMENDOUS NEGATIVE IMPACT THESE APARTMENTS WILL HAVE. LARRY AND CARMEN SMITH AT 1 0 3 2 2 WILDERNESS GAS. WE ARE WRITING TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY. WE HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON SHADETREE IN THE BRAUN OAK SUBDIVISION FOR OVER 28 YEARS. WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED AND DISMAYED AT THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF COUNTLESS MAJESTIC OAK AND CEDAR ELM TREES. THIS VEGETATION PROVIDES A VISUAL AND SOUND BUFFER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THE EXISTING BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC WE'RE THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING. WE BELIEVE MORE, MANY MORE OF THESE TREES WOULD BE SAVED AS WAS DONE WHEN BROUGHT OUT WAS DEVELOPED. IN ADDITION, WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR TRAVEL ON BANDERA ROAD THAT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL CREATE. THIS WOULD BE OF CONCERN EVEN IF THE PROPERTY WERE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT IS DOUBLY CONCERNING FOR A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. AS WE ALL KNOW, BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IS IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS EVEN WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF OVER 200 NEW RESIDENTS RESIDENCES IN SUCH A CONCENTRATED LOCATION. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND URGE YOU AND THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT US BY OPPOSING THE REZONING REQUEST. REEN KNAPP AND MAR MARTA NAP AT 89 0 2 SHADE STREET. I AM WRITING TO YOU REGARDING THE REZONING OF A 13 ACRE WOODED AREA BETWEEN RACHEL BRANCH AND BRAUN OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD AND BANDERA ROAD. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THE PROPOSAL ONLY IF TWO SIGNIFICANT ISSUES ARE CLEARLY AND PERMANENTLY ADDRESSED. I APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR MORE AND MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN OUR AREA. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF MR AND MRS. DWAYNE KELLER, RESIDENTS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HOOD WHO RAISED CONCERNS REGARDING DESTRUCTION OF LARGE OLD TREES, REMOVAL OF A TRAFFIC NOISE BARRIER AND INCREASED BANDERA ROAD CONGESTION. I URGE YOU TO TAKE ACTION TO ALLOW THIS REZONING TO PROCEED ONLY WITH ONE SIGNIFICANT LIMIT TO TREE DESTRUCTION AND TWO, A CLEAR PLAN TO AVOID ADDITIONAL BANDERA ROAD CONSTRUCTION. LIMITING TREE DESTRUCTION WILL UNDOUBTEDLY INCREASE THE DEVELOPER'S COST, YET WILL BENEFIT NEW AND EXISTING RESIDENTS WITH A SOUND BARRIER. AIR QUALITY, MAINTENANCE, TEMPERATURE, MODERATION, AND APPEARANCE. THE BANDERA ROAD IS ISSUE IS NOT NEW YET A SOLUTION REMAINS FAR AWAY. THE ROAD IS ABOUT TO BE AFFECTED BY THE IN PROGRESS FROM LANDING NEIGHBORHOOD. CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT AT THIS INTERSECTION WITHOUT CHANGES TO THE ROADS WILL MAKE THEM UNCAPABLE. PLEASE REQUIRE THE THAT THESE ISSUES BE ADDRESSED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY. THANK YOU. SANDY ROGERS AT 88 14 SHADE TREE. PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE A REZONING REQUEST TO BILL THE 216 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX IN BROAD OAK. RESIDENTS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH NOISE, POLLUTION AND TRAFFIC FROM COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, INCLUDING A NEW QT GAS STATION IN FRONT OF THE REQUESTED REZONING AREA THAT DESTROYED MANY ESTABLISHED TREES AND FOLIAGE. RESIDENTS DESERVE THE TRANQUILITY BUFFER THAT THE WOODS IN THIS AREA PROVIDE AND THEY DESERVE THE PRIVACY THAT AN APAR APARTMENT COMPLEX WOULD ENC ENCROACH UPON. I AM WRITING TO EXPRESS MY SCENT ON THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST FOR THE 11,000 BLOCK OF BANDERA ROAD, WHICH IS DIRECTLY BEHIND MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS. I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR OVER 10 YEARS AND HAVE SEEN THE BANDERA 1604 AREA BLOW UP FASTER THAN CIVIL ENGINEERING CAN KEEP. UH, TRAFFIC HAS WORSENED OVER THE YEARS, EVEN WITH THE INSTALLATION OF A NEW INTERSECTION TO AID THE TRAFFIC FLOW. BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IS HORRIBLE AS IS AND YOU ARE PROPOSING ADDING APARTMENTS TO AN ALREADY DENSELY PACKED AREA. THIS IS EXCEPTIONALLY POOR PLANNING AND WILL ONLY ADD TO THE ALREADY OVERPOPULATED AREA. FURTHER, THE LOSS OF LIVE OAK CEDARS AND OTHER NATIVE VEGETATION WILL LEAD TO INCREASE NOISE, DIRTIER AIR, AND DETRACT FROM THE NATURAL DRAW OF THE, OF THIS AREA. NOT TO MENTION LOSS OF HABITAT FOR THE WILDLIFE, FOR WHAT WILDLIFE MAY BE LEFT RESIDING IN THAT AREA. THE [04:15:01] SAFETY IMPLICATIONS ARE ALSO GREAT. NOT ONLY AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENTS BUT POTENTIAL INCREASE IN CRIME PROVEN WORSENED BY INCREASE IN POPULATION DENSITY. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. WE ALREADY HAVE MORE THAN WHAT OUR SS A P D CAN MANAGE. MAILBOX BREAK IS HOME AND CAR BREAK-IN INCREASING GRAFFITI AND THEFT. LASTLY, OUR SCHOOLS ARE ALREADY OVERCROWDED HAVING TO OVERFLOW INTO MODULAR CLASSROOMS. WHAT IS THE ANSWER TO THIS? BUILD MORE SCHOOLS WHERE WE NEED TO LET SOME GREEN AREAS REMAIN AS GREEN AS POSSIBLE AND NOT SHOVE IN HUNDREDS MORE TENANTS WHERE THERE ARE VERY NEARBY HOMES FOR SALE, FOR RENT AND FOR LEASE, AS WELL AS A HUNDRED PLUS OPEN APARTMENTS IN THE AREA TO BUILD AND TAKE AWAY THIS BUFFER ZONE TO BOTH STONEFIELD AND BRO OAKS IS AGAIN POOR PLANNING AND SHOWS THAT SOMEONE IS ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING A PALM GREASE INSTEAD OF CONCERNS OF THE CITIZENS WHO ALREADY WELL ESTABLISHED IN THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. RHONDA GATES OF STONEFIELD AT 1 0 0 2 6 WILDERNESS GAS TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN, TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN TO CHANGE ZONE FROM SINGLE FAMILY TO LIMITED DENSE DENSITY MULTIFAMILY. NUMBER ONE, WE ARE NOTIFIED FIVE DAYS BEFORE THE MEETING GIVING VERY LITTLE TIME TO MEET THE DEADLINE FOR COMMENTS. FOR CONSIDERATION. IS THE MO FOR ZONING CHANGES? IT CERTAINLY SMELLS OF PAYOLA FOR THE MOST PART, CRIME HAS BEEN VERY MINIMAL IN THE AREA COMPARED THE SPIKE IN CRIME. WHEN YOU APPROVE CHAMPIONS GATE, I WILL USE EVERY MEANS LEGALLY AND OTHERWISE AVAILABLE TO MAKE PUBLIC THE OWNERS OF PEG FOUR TIES TO ANYONE WITHIN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. IF YOU WISH TO MAKE THIS LEGAL EXTEND THE 30, THE DEADLINE 30 DAYS TO ALLOW OUR SIDE TO RESEARCH STATISTICS MAINTAINED BY THE F I C I AND OTHER POLICING AGENCIES. RESPECTFULLY, PETER RE, MADAM CHAIR, POINT OF ORDER. YES MA'AM. ACTUALLY POINT OF INFORMATION AND JUST TO GIVE THE READER A QUICK BREAK, UM, CAN SHE TELL US HOW MANY MORE THERE ARE TO READ? I'M JUST REALLY KIND OF TRYING TO FIND A QUESTION SO SHE CAN BREATHE FOR A MOMENT. OKAY. . UM, ACTUALLY IT'S KAT, UH, CHRISTIE AND I ARE SPLITTING THEM. SHE ACTUALLY HAS A FEW MORE BEFORE I DO THE NEXT STACK AND AND WHAT IS YOUR STACK? UH, PROBABLY THE SAME AMOUNT SHE DOES. SHE, I PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 30 AND SHE HAS PROBABLY ANOTHER 30. OKAY. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE A MOTION, BUT IF WE COULD FINISH, UM, THE STACK WE'RE READING ALREADY AND TAKE A, A FIVE MINUTE BREAK. IS THAT VIABLE BEFORE WE ALL, BEFORE WE HEAD INTO THE NEXT 30? UH, COMMISSIONER A THUMBS UP. OKAY. THUMBS UP. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. MM-HMM. . OKAY. OKAY. THE AIR . ALL RIGHT, WE'RE IN RECESS. THANK YOU. WELL, I MEAN THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO DO SO MS. FLORES, YOU'LL FINISH YOURS. THE LAST ONE'S ON YOURS AND THEN WE'LL TAKE A BREAK BEFORE WE MOVE TO THE STACK FOR MS. MS. HERNANDEZ. OKAY. IT'S GOOD EVERYBODY'S BACK. WE ARE READY. IT IS, UH, 5 35 AND UM, WE'LL COMMENCE WITH THE LAST CASE ON OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND SO I'LL CONTINUE READING INTO THE RECORD THE ITEMS FOR ZONING CASE 1 0 7 0 0 1 7 8 ON AT 11,000 BLOCK OF MANDERA ROAD, AND I WANTED TO STATE FOR THE RECORD OF MS. MEGAN WHITE DE VALDEZ PHD. SHE DID A CALL IN EARLIER, BUT WE ALSO DID GET AN EMAIL FROM HER SO WE SHE DID CALL IN AND YOU DID HEAR HER COMMENTS EARLIER. THE NEXT ONE IS WE'RE WRITING TO TEST THE REZONING CHANGE REQUEST IN REGARDS TO ZONING CASE C 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 7 8 OFF BANDERA ROAD NEAR SRU ROAD. IN THE 20 YEARS WE'VE LIVED IN THE AREA, MUCH HAS BEEN DISCUSSED BUT LITTLE DONE TO ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC CONGESTION ON BANDERA ROAD. I STRONGLY APP OPPOSE THE PROPOSALS TO HAVE ANOTHER LARGE MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT BUILT IN THIS AREA, WHICH WILL ONLY COMPOUND THE PROBLEM. THIS IS ALL NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF 1604 AND BANDERA ROAD, WHERE BANDERA POINTS AND THE A D PLUS [04:20:01] SHOPPING CENTERS ALREADY CAUSED HUGE CONGESTION IN RECENT YEARS WITHIN A 1.5 MILE RADIUS, NEW SCHOOLS HAVE OPENED. I'M JUST GONNA DOUBLE CHECK THAT I HAVEN'T REREAD THIS ONE BECAUSE IT SOUNDS VERY FAMILIAR. YES, WE HAVE READ THIS ONE INTO THE RECORD BEFORE AND SO, UM, MS. KATHLEEN AND MR. MATTHEW DOWNING HAVE THE SAME, THE SAME OPINION AND PROTEST THE REZONING CHANGE. MOVING ON TO JUST, UH, TO JUDY MCMILLAN. I HAVE JUST HEARD ABOUT THE REQUEST FOR A ZONING CHANGE BEHIND THE NEIGHBORHOOD I LIVE IN, WHICH IS STONEFIELD FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. I HEARD THERE'S ANOTHER APARTMENT COMPLEX ABOUT TO GO UP IN THE CHAMPIONS GATE AREA AS WELL, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW DISTURBED I AM TO HAVE LEARNED OF THIS. HOUSING IN THE AREA IS ALREADY SO DENSE THAT TRAFFIC IS RIDICULOUSLY DENSE AS WELL. TRYING TO GET ON LOOP 1604 OR DOWN BANDERA OR DOWN BANDERA TO LOOP FOUR 10 IN THE MORNING IS A NIGHTMARE AND GETTING BACK HOME AT THE END OF THE WORKDAY IS TWO. ADDING ADDITIONAL, ADDING SEVERAL HUNDRED MORE CARS TO ALREADY CROWDED ROADS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE A REALLY GOOD IDEA. HOW MANY MORE ACCIDENTS DO WE NEED TO ENDURE ON STONECRAFT? WE'RE AT THE BANDERA ROAD LOOP 1604 INTERCHANGE SCHOOLS HERE ARE ALREADY MAXED OUT AND ADDING MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING WOULD CREATE ISSUES WITH ATTENDANCE ZONE. H E B IS ALREADY PACKED ALL DAY. PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS REQUEST AND ASK THE DEVELOPER TO FIND A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MORE OPEN SPACE TO DEVELOP. I'M WRITING TODAY TO VOICE MY OPPOSITION TO ALLOWING THE REZONING OF A 13 ACRE WOODED AREA BETWEEN RACHEL'S BRANCH AND BANDERA ROAD FOR BUILDING OF AN APARTMENT COMPLEX. THIS WOULD BE DE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE CONSIDER THE NEGATIVE IMPACT TO THOSE OF US LIVING HERE CURRENTLY. THAT'S FROM JEN G I'M WRITING AS A RESIDENT OF BROAD OAK COMMUNITY. OVER THE YEARS, OUR AREA HAS SEEN AN INFLUX OF BUSINESSES AND MORE HOUSING SQUEEZE INTO SMALL AREAS AROUND US. THE AREA CONSIDERED FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX CAN INCREASE THE TRAFFIC BY TENFOLD OR MORE, AND THE DANGER OF INCREASING ACCIDENTS. FOR EXAMPLE, OUTGOING TRAFFIC EAST WOULD REQUIRE TO TURN RIGHT ON BANDERA, CAUSING THE GOING WEST TO MAKE A U-TURN AT THE LIGHT, INCREASING THE POSSIBILITY OF AN ACCIDENT. IF RESIDENTS HAVE CHILDREN ENROLLED IN THE SCHOOL ACROSS THE HIGHWAY MANDERA ROAD, THERE WILL BE THE TEMPTATION OF CROSSING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD TO GET TO SCHOOL. THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF HOW NEGATIVE OUTCOMES OF ZONING THIS AREA. FOR YET ANOTHER OVERCROWDED LIVING AREA, PLEASE CONSIDER DECLINING THE REQUEST FOR REZONING. IDA GARCIA AT 1 0 4 0 6 RUSTIC VALLEY. I'M WRITING IN OPPOSITION TO THE ROAD TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. GO TI. WE ARE WRITING TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY. OUR PROPERTY IS IN THE ZONE AND WE PROPOSE DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED AND DISMAYED OF THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF COUNTLESS MAJESTIC OAKS AND CEDAR ELM TREES. THIS, THIS VEGETATION PROVIDES A VISUAL AND SOUND BUFFER FOR MY NEIGHBORS AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THE EXISTING BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED. BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING, WE BELIEVE MORE TREES COULD BE. IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR TRAVEL ON BANDERA ROAD AND THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL CREATE. I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR LESS THAN 10 YEARS AND HAVE SEEN SO MANY ACCIDENTS DUE TO THE HEAVY TRAFFIC AND NEGLIGENCE OF ON STONE CROSS ALONE. THIS IS CONCERNING FOR A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. AS WE ALL KNOW, BENDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS EVEN WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF OVER 200 NEW RESIDENCES IN A CONCENTRATED LOCATION. AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, THERE WAS A NEW DEVELOPMENT ALMOST COMPLETED JUST OFF BANDERA ROAD ALREADY. THIS IS IN THE SAME SCHOOL DISTRICT WHERE MY GRAND KIDS ATTEND. ARE YOU READY TO BUILD ANOTHER ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, OR EVEN HIGH SCHOOL TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THIS DISTRICT? PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO SEE WHAT VACANT HOMES AND APARTMENTS ARE NEARBY. JUST WITH MY RESEARCH ON CALLING OVER A HUNDRED APARTMENTS WITHIN A 10 MILE RADIUS ARE EMPTY OR BECOMING VACANT. WE DO NOT NEED ANOTHER APARTMENT [04:25:01] COMPLEX JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HAS A NEED TO BUILD. I SUGGEST THAT THEY BUILD BETTER APARTMENTS IN AREAS THAT HAVE INFESTATION OR WRAPPED ROACHES, ET CETERA, BUILD WHERE THERE IS NOT A WANT SO MANY OF US RETIRED MILITARY LEAD LIVE IN THESE HOMES HERE, DISABLED P T S D, ET CETERA. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I URGE YOU AND THE REST OF CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT US BY RE BY OPPOSING THIS REZONING REQUEST AND I CAN'T QUITE TELL WHO WHO THAT'S FROM, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE EMAIL GDR EIGHT FULL FOR GOD'S MERCY AND NOW KAT'S GONNA START THE OTHER STACK. ALL RIGHT, THIS, THIS ONE IS FROM ELIZABETH SPURLOCK. I'M READY TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO REZONING CASE, UH, D 1 78, THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE 13 ACRE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO STONEFIELD AND BROWN OAK SUBDIVISION. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT LOCAL DEVELOPMENT IS INEVITABLE AND COMPLETELY OPPOSED TO THE ADDITION OF MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING, THAT WILL CAUSE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY PROBLEMS, CREATE EVEN MORE PROBLEMS WITH POOLS THAT ARE ALREADY OVER CAPACITY, DESTROY LOCAL WILDLIFE HABITATS AND POTENTIALLY LOWER THE PROPERTY VALUES OF THIS EXISTING COMMUNITY. TRAFFIC AND SAFETY OF PEDESTRIANS ARE MAJOR AREAS OF CONCERN AS THE INTERSECTION OF BANDERA HOOP 1604 HAS JUST RECENTLY UNDERGONE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE MAJOR ISSUES WE WERE FACING. SOME SCHOOLS IN THE AREA ARE ALREADY REPORTED AT OVER CAPACITY AND THE COUNCIL SHOULD NOT APPROVE MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS THAT CREATES OR EXACERBATES. THAT'S THE SITUATION THAT WILL CALL SCHOOL CONCURRENCY TO FAIL FOR THIS PROPOSAL AND OR OTHER APPROVED PLANS. IN ADDITION AREA WILDLIFE POS A CONCERN IS ANY DEVELOPMENT WILL DESTROY THEIR HABITAT. ANY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY SHOULD CONSIDER THE CONTINUING IMPACT TO LOCAL WILDLIFE HABITAT. PROPERTY VALUES ARE LIKELY TO GO DOWN, DOWN IN THE AREA OF MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS ARE BUILT, MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE INCONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOODS DEVELOPED IN THE AREA. ALSO, THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL MAKE IT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT FOR US TO SELL OUR HOMES IF WHEN WE WANNA DO SO. THIS IS UNFAIR TO ALL OF THE FAMILIES THAT CURRENTLY RESIDE IN THIS AREA. I URGE YOU TO DISAPPROVE THE PROPOSED REZONING AND FROM RECENT DISCUSSIONS ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD APPS. I KNOW MY OPINIONS ARE SHARED BY MANY WHO HAVE NOT MANAGED TO ATTEND MEETINGS OR WRITE LETTERS AND EMAILS. THANK YOU FOR CONTINUED SERVICE AND SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITIES. THE NEXT ONE IS FROM DWAYNE AND KATHY KELLER. WE'RE WRITING TO EXPRESS HER STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE-REFERENCED PROPERTY. WE HAVE LIVED IN HER HOME ON RACHEL'S BRANCH FROM BRUNOS FOR OVER 17 YEARS. OUR PROPERTY DIRECTLY ABUTS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED AND IT'S MADE ITS POTENTIAL CONSTRUCTION OF COUNTLESS MAJESTIC OAKS, CEDAR, EL TREES. THIS MAJE, THIS VEGETATION PROVIDES A VISUAL AND SOUND BUFFER FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THE EXISTING VAN AIR ROAD TRAFFIC WE'RE THE PROPERTY TO BE WHERE THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING. WE BELIEVE MANY MORE TREES WILL LIKELY BE SAVED AS WAS DONE WHEN RON OAKS WAS DEVELOPED. IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR TRAVEL ON BANDERA ROAD THAT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL CREATE. THIS WOULD BE OF A CONCERN EVEN IF THE PROPERTY WERE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE EXISTING ZONING OF SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT IS DELY CONCERNING FOR THE LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. IT IS CURRENTLY BEING PROPOSED. AS WE ALL KNOW, BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS EVEN WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF OVER 200 NEW RESIDENCES. SUCH A CONCENTRATED LOCATION SOUNDS FAMILIAR TO ANOTHER ONE. NEXT ONE IS FROM DEBORAH FLYNN BARON. I'M WRITING TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION, REZO OF REZONING AT 11,000 UH BANDERA ROAD. I COMMUTE THROUGH THIS AREA FIVE DAYS A WEEK AND MY PARENTS LIVE IN THIS AREA. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH. THE HEAVY TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA BARELY SUPPORTS THE TRAFFIC IF OUR IT ALREADY HAS AND QUITE FRANKLY, IT OFTEN CAN'T SUPPORT IT. TRAFFIC ON TESLA HAS ALREADY INCREASED DUE TO THE VISTA APARTMENTS. ADDING ANOTHER COMPLEX WILL MAKE IT IMPLO IMPASSABLE. I REPEAT I'M FIRMLY, FIRMLY AGAIN. NEXT ONE IS FROM DAVID EISENHOWER. DANIEL EISENHOWER. I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THE OWNER OF THE 13 ACRE WOODED AREA BETWEEN RACHEL'S BRANCH AND BANDERA ROAD IS REQUESTING TO HAVE THE AREA RESOLVED FOR AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AS THE HOMEOWNER IN STONEFIELD ESTATE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS AREA FEELS STRONGLY THAT THIS WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WOULD LIKE TO URGE YOU TO DECLINE THE REQUEST FOR REZONING. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN. NEXT ONE IS FROM DANIEL BAIRD. I HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS PROPOSED BY HEAD COURT REGARDING THE REZONING REQUEST. I'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH A PLAN DEVELOPER AND I HAVE RECEIVED AMPLE INFORMATION REGARDING THE IMPACT ON BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC AND DISTANCE FROM THE CURRENT HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA. I'VE EVEN LOOKED AT THE TRAILS AT LEON CREEK. I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY FAMILY'S OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING APPLICATION FROM R SIX TO M F 18, WHILE MY HOME IS NOT DIRECTLY BEHIND THE AREA. THE TRAFFIC AND NOISE WE EXPERIENCE WITH THE QT AND SOON TO BE FIRESTONE IS ENOUGH. REMOVING MORE TREES WILL FURTHER IMPACT THE BANDERA ROAD BUFFER ZONE AND INCREASE THE NOISE LEVEL WHILE DEPLETING OUR AREA OF THE NEEDED RESOURCE BEING REMOVED FROM OUR CITY ALREADY. IN [04:30:01] ADDITION, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ATTIC CONGESTION ON BANDERA AND THE SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITY. NATURALLY PEOPLE WILL USE Q QT AND THE BROAD OAKS TESLA ROAD TO GET FROM THE APARTMENTS BEING DISCUSSED, CREATING ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC ON TESLA AND BANDERA ALIKE. IN ADDITION, THIS APPEARS TO BE A FLOOD ZONE WITH DRAINAGE BEING ANOTHER HEAVY CONCERN WITH ALL OF THE OTHER APARTMENTS IN THIS AREA. I HONESTLY DON'T BELIEVE ADDING THIS TYPE OF MS HOUSING IS NECESSARY IN THIS AR IN THIS AREA EITHER. NEXT ONE IS FROM DEB HALL. AS A LONGTIME HOMEOWNER IN STONEFIELD, H O A, I'M STRONGLY VOICING OPPOSITION TO THE REZO REQUEST BY PETCO HOUSING CORPORATION. I DO NOT WANT THE 13 ACRE PROPERTY ON BANDERA ROADS SOUTH OF STONE CROSS REZONE, NOR DO I WANT A MONSTROSITY OF AN APARTMENT BUILDING BOTH DIRECTLY BEHIND AND ADJACENT TO THE STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE UPCOMING REZONING HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 1ST. HEADQUARTERS SHOWN BAD FAITH IN NEGOTIATIONS WITH HOMEOWNERS IN THE PAST AND WITH THE H O A BOARD OF STONEFIELD CONCURRENT. CURRENTLY THIS COMPANY HAS NO REGARD TO THE LOWERING OF MY PROP OF MY PROPERTY VALUE, NOR FOR THE NEGATIVE IMPACT THE BUILDING OF A 218 UNIT APARTMENT BUILDING WILL HAVE ON THE STONEFIELD H O A COMMUNITY AT LARGE. I'VE PERSONALLY CONTACTED THE PET COURT VICE PRESIDENT OF DEVELOPMENT JEAN ON AUGUST FOUR TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPROVAL OF THE REZONING REQUEST OF HEADQUARTERS DATE. MS. MACHA HAS NOT RESPONDED TO MY EMAIL. HAD I KNOWN WHEN I BROUGHT MY HOME OVER 20 YEARS AGO THAT A HUGE APARTMENT BUILDING COMPLEX WOULD BE BUILT HERE INSTEAD OF HOMES BEING BUILT HERE. AS I WAS TOLD, I WOULD'VE NEVER PURCHASED MY HOME. NEXT ONE IS FROM ANNUAL LEBRON. I'M EMAILING YOU EX TO EXPRESS MY CONCERNS ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGE OF THE ZONING FOR PROPERTY LOCATED IN BANDERA AREA. PLEASE, UH, FOR NO FOR THE ZONING CHANGE. NEXT ONE IS FROM UNHOUSED VETA. UH, I'M A RESIDENT STONEFIELD AND I'M TOTALLY AGAINST THE REZONING AND BUILDING OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX BEHIND MY PROPERTY ON 1 0 2 3 0 WIL GAP. I'M OPPOSED TO THE BUILDING OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX DUE TO THE FACT THAT MY PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE IMPACTED, CRIME WILL INCREASE AND IT WILL MAKE MY HOUSE HARDER TO SELL IN THE FUTURE. DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE APARTMENT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND MY PROPERTY. I PREFER THIS PROPERTY TO BE KEPT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING AND DO NOT WANT TO HAVE HUNDREDS OF NEIGHBORS BEHIND MY PROPERTY. THIS EMAIL IS OFFICIALLY STATES MY OPPOSITION TO THE ZONING CHAIN. THE NEXT ONE IS FROM VICTORIA ARGA DOWNING. CAN YOU ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT SO I CAN READ IT FROM THE SCREEN? BETTER? I'M READY TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST FROM ZONING CHANGE THE 20 21 78 PROPERTY. MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON ON 99 38. STONEFIELD PLACEMENTS DON'T FEEL COMMUNITY FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS. OUR PROPERTY IN OUR DAUGHTER'S DAYCARE IS IN THE ZONE OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED. IT'S MADE AT THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION YOU WILL CAUSE TOWARDS STONEFIELD COMMUNITY. IN THE DAYCARE OUR DAUGHTER ATTEND, WE ALREADY HAVE EXISTING TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON BANDURA ROAD. AS THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL CREATE MORE ACCIDENTS AND MAKE MORE CONGESTION, THE ZONING CHANGE WILL DECREASE THE VALUE OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OF STONE STONEFIELD RESIDENTS INCREASED PROPERTY TAXES, INCREASED CRIME IN OUR H O A COMMUNITY AND INCREASED CONGESTION ON BANDERA ROAD. TOPIC ONE. PROPERTY TAXES. WE'RE GONNA BE PAYING MORE ON OUR ALREADY HIGH PROPERTY TAXES DUE TO THE REZONING REQUESTS OF THE PROPERTY. ALSO, THIS WILL MAKE IT EXTREME, EXTREMELY DIFFICULT FOR US TO SELL OUR HOUSE FOR NEARLY WHAT IT IS WORTH. DUE TO THE ZONING CHANGE, THE RESIDENTS LIVING IN THIS UNIT WILL NOT BE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES AS WE HOME. ONLY PAY THE PROPOSED OF OVER 200 APARTMENTS NEXT TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WILL ALLOW THESE INDIVIDUALS TO OUR COMMUNITY WHO DO NOT PAY H O A FEES AND WILL ULTIMATELY GET HER FREE RIDE TO USE HER FACILITY. IN ADDITION, THEIR CHILDREN WILL INCREASE SCHOOL CLASS SIZES. AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, WE'RE EXPERIENCING TRYING TIMES WITH THE PANDEMIC. THIS WILL INCREASE MORE COVID 19 CASES CASES, WHICH IS NOT SAFE NOR HEALTHY FOR THE CHILDREN. ARE YOU READY FOR MORE C OVID 19 CASES TO ARISE ALONG WITH THE BUILDING OF ANOTHER ELEMENTARY, MIDDLE, OR EVEN HIGH SCHOOL TO MEET THE DEMANDS OF THIS DISTRICT. TOPIC TWO CRIME, THE INCREASING CRIME WILL GO UP DUE TO THE ZONING CHANGE. THE PROPOSED PROPERTY IS IN THE ZONE OF OUR DAUGHTER'S DAYCARE, F Y THE LOW INCOME HOUSING THAT WAS BUILT ON , JUST SOUTH OF BU, BEHIND THE KING HILL CHURCH ON MAVERICKS IS WHERE A WOMAN WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD AND KILLED LAST WEEK. THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF MY HUSBAND AND AND I LIVING IN AN H O A COMMUNITY IS TO AVOID CRIME, NOT FOR THE DEVELOPER IN THE CITY, TO GREEN CRIME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. OKAY, NEXT ONE IS FROM JESSICA GILLENWATER, BUT I'M A RESIDENT OF STONEFIELD SUBDIVISION. I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT OPPOSED TO THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TO GO UP. MY FAMILY PICKED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR OUR KIDS BECAUSE IT'S VERY SAFE AND PUTTING UP APARTMENTS, WHICH WILL BE CONNECTED TO THE AREA WHERE STRANGE PEOPLE TO WALK THROUGH WILL NOT MAKE IT SAFE. MY FAMILY HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT THIS WILL NOT HELP. PLEASE DO NOT BUILD THEM HERE. NEXT ONE IS FROM MICHAEL MCCOY. I'M IN OPPOSITION TO THE CHANGE IN ZONING TO MF 18. IT WILL JUST INCREASE TRAFFIC ON VAN DEER ROAD, CREATING GREATER TRAFFIC CONGESTION, AS WELL AS INCREASED LIGHT AND NOISE POLLUTION IN THE AREA. THE ACCESS TO BANDERA ROAD IS LIMITED IN [04:35:01] WILL AND WILL BE NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF BANDERA AND PRU ROADS, CREATING GREATER CHANCES OF ACCIDENTS THAT THE INGRESS AND EGRESS WILL BE DIRECTLY ONTO MANURA ROAD. THE CHANGE WILL ALSO IMPACT INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS WATER, SEWER, AND DRAINAGE. WE ALREADY HAVE LOW WATER PRESSURE DUE TO THE COMMERCIAL INFLUENCES. THE DRAINAGE WILL BE IMPACTED DUE TO THE HARDCOVER FOR PARKING IN THE COMPLEX. THE CURRENT SLOPE FORCE WATER INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD REGARDLESS OF HOW WATER DRAINAGE IS MITIGATED BY THE DEVELOPER. NEXT ONE IS FROM LISA MCLAUGHLIN AND, AND JEFFREY B MCL LAN, THAT LAN. DEAR COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL STAFF, WE ARE WRITING TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE REZONING REQUEST ON THE ABOVE REFERENCED PROPERTY. WE HAVE LIVED IN OUR HOME ON 99 0 2 STONEFIELD PLACED IN STONEFIELD COMMUNITY FOR FIVE YEARS. OUR PROPERTY IS IN THE ZONE, AND WE'VE PROPOSED AND WE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, AND WE ARE EXTREMELY CONCERNED AND DISMAY IT, THE POTENTIAL DESTRUCTION OF COUNTLESS MAJESTIC OAK AND CEDAR FILM TREES. THIS VEGETATION PROVIDES A VISUAL AND SOUND BUFFER FOR MY NEIGHBOR'S NEIGHBORHOOD AGAINST THIS VAN ROAD TRAFFIC FOR THE PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED BASED ON THE CURRENT ZONING, WE BELIEVE MANY MORE TREES WOULD LIKELY BE SAVED. IN ADDITION, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGESTION AND SAFETY IMPLICATIONS FOR TRAVEL AND BANDERA ROAD THAT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC WILL CREATE. I'VE BEEN HERE FOR LESS THAN 10 YEARS AND HAVE SEEN SO MANY ACCIDENTS DUE TO HEAVY TRAFFIC AND NEGLIGENCE AND STONE CROSS ALONE. THIS IS CONCERNING FOR A LARGE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT. IT IS CURRENTLY BEING PRO PROPOSED. AS WE ALL KNOW, BANDERA ROAD TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA IS ALREADY HORRENDOUS, EVEN WITHOUT THE ADDITION OF OVER 200 NEW RESIDENCES IN SUCH A CONCENTRATED LOCATION. AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, THERE HAVE, THERE WAS A NEW DEVELOPMENT ALMOST COMPLETED OFF OF BANDERA ROAD ALREADY. YES, IT'S A DUPLICATE. OKAY. THREE THERE. OKAY. YEAH. IT WAS A DUPLICATE OF ANOTHER LETTER, BUT IT'S, UH, WRITTEN BY LISA MACKLAN AND JEFFREY LER. NEXT ONE IS BRITTANY BIZEL. UH, SHE WRITES IN FAVOR OF NO IN OPPOSITION FOR MY PROPERTY, VALUE TO CHANGE, UH, GREEN SPACE TO POTENTIALLY MULTI MULTIFAMILY BUILDING NEARBY WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL. ALSO, CHANGE PRIVACY IN TERMS NEAR WHICH I WAS SOLD MY HOME. OKAY, NEXT ONE IS MONICA GARCIA. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING BRON OAK'S RESIDENTS TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS. REGARDING THE PROPERTY IN DISTRICT SEVEN THAT WAS BEING CONSIDERED FOR REZONING, THE BRO OAKS BOARD PROVIDED AMPLE DOCUMENTATION, UH, PROVIDED BY PET COURT DEVELOPMENT, AND I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, THE OAK VALLEY ON JUDSON ROAD, AND EVEN THEIR LATEST BANDURA ROAD CALLED THE TRAILS AT LEON CREEK. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTY VALUE ANALYSIS PROVIDED BY PETCO IS COMPARABLE WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT ALL. THE LIST IN THE THE LIST IN THE SAN ANTONIO AREA HAS OLD HOUSES THAT HAVE BEEN RENOVATED BY INVESTORS OR OUR RENTAL HOUSES. SOME EVEN DECREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTIES TO BE SOLD. I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY STRONG OPPOSITION TO THIS REZONING REQUEST. ASIDE FROM THE LACK OF NEIGHBORLY SUPPORT, I'M NOT CONVINCED THAT THIS PROPERTY IS NEEDED IN THIS AREA. I'M GREATLY CONCERNED THAT THE BANDERA ROAD WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SAFELY ACCOMMODATE THE ADDED CONGESTION. I'VE LIVED ON RACHEL'S BRANCH IN BRO OAKS FOR ALMOST 18 YEARS, AND WE HAVE BEEN SEEING HOW TRAFFIC HAS BEEN INCREASING ALREADY THROUGH THE YEARS WITH THE NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND BRO OAKS. ADDITIONALLY, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE DESTRUCTION OF THE NEEDED TREES IN THE AREA. NOT TO MENTION WE ARE ALREADY DEALING WITH OVERCROWDING. SOME OF THESE SCHOOLS ARE URGENT NEED OF REMODELING INSTEAD OF MORE STUDENTS. IT'S MY HOPE THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD RECEIVES THE SUPPORT OF THE CITY COUNCIL BY OPPOSING THIS IAN. NEXT ONE IS FROM DIANE STEWART, PLEASE STOP THIS PROJECT. THERE ARE SO MANY APARTMENTS ON BANDERA AND ALONG 1604. WHY DO WE NEED ANOTHER ONE? BANDERA ROAD IS ALREADY SO CONGESTED IN A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX IN A LOW INCOME ONE, AND THAT WE'LL ONLY EXACERBATE THE ISSUE. MY GUESS IS THAT AN INCREASE IN POPULATION WILL ALSO CREATE AN INCREASE IN CRIME. BUSINESSES HAVE MOVED OUT THE VANDER POINT DUE TO CRIME. THEN THERE'S THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. ALL THOSE BEAUTIFUL TREES WILL BE CUT DOWN JUST TO PUT UP A FEW APARTMENTS IN A PARKING LOT. PLEASE STOP THIS PROJECT. NEXT ONE IS FROM TROY BYERS, WHO, UH, SUBMITTED A, UH, FORM IN FAVOR OF THE REZONING. NEXT ONE IS FROM JABARI JORDAN. IN REGARDS TO THE REZONING CASE, I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE MY SUPPORT FOR ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS OF HOUSING UNITS. ADDITIONAL HOUSING AND DENSER HOUSING ARE THE PRIMARY MEANS OF CONTROLLING THE RISE OF HOUSING, PRICING AND KEEPING HOMES AFFORDABLE. AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS FROM ISAAC ALA, UH, WHO WRITES IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED REZONING. AND THERE'S STILL ONE MORE. OH, THERE'S A LIVE CALLER. NOW WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET HIM ON THE LINE IF HE HELP. OH, OKAY. WE'RE GONNA TRY TO GET THE LIVE CALLER ON THE LINE. [04:40:36] SORRY, IT'S TAKING A, UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE TRYING TO GET HIM ON THE PHONE. HE WAS, HE WAS HOLDING. UM, AND THEN HE HUNG UP. MR. PEREIRA, ARE YOU THERE? YES, I'M HERE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. RIGHT. UH, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. UH, WONDERFUL. WELL, I WAS JUST CALLING REGARDING THE PROPOSED, UH, ZONING CHANGE AND BASICALLY WHERE THE LINES SHOW WITH, UH, BACKING UP TO THE SUBDIVISION. I I DON'T SEE ANY BUFFER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT BETWEEN THE MULTI-FAMILY, UH, PROPOSAL AND THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AND AS A REAL ESTATE BROKER IN THE AREA FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS, I'VE SEEN SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THEY'VE DONE THIS AND, YOU KNOW, $300,000 HOME WITH A THREE TORY SUB, UH, APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT BEHIND THE OWNER'S HOUSE. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR BUSINESS. UH, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH SETTING UP THAT HOMEOWNER FOR FAILURE. SO IF YOU'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THERE BE A BUFFER BETWEEN ANY SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION AND A MULTI-FAMILY, UH, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF ZONING. UH, I THOUGHT THEY HAD THAT KIND OF PROVISION IN PLACE ALREADY. SO TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MULTI-FAMILY PROPERTIES GOING UP LIKE THIS RIGHT NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION, IT'S RIDICULOUS. AND IT'S A KILLER FOR HOME VALUES. UH, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUSTIFIED WHATSOEVER. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, HOLD ONE MOMENT PLEASE. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLER? UH, OKAY. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. UH, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH. WHERE DO YOU LIVE THAT OR SURROUNDING THE TRACT ITSELF? IS, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES, MA'AM. I GAP 1 0 1 0 2. WILDERNESS GAP. A WILDERNESS GAP. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND SO YOU HAVE A NICE, UH, TREELINE BUFFER IN YOUR BACKYARD ALREADY? ACTUALLY, YES, I DO BACK UP TO A SUBDIVISION, SO IT WILL NOT AFFECT ME DIRECTLY, BUT IT WILL AFFECT ME INDIRECTLY WHEN IT COMES TO RETAIL, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GONNA BRING DOWN THE VALUE OF THE OTHER HOMES ON MY STREET. I CAN POINT OUT ANOTHER SUBDIVISION WHERE THEY'VE DONE THE EXACT SAME THING RECENTLY. UH, ACADIA RIDGE, UH, OFF PETRANKO OUTSIDE THE LOOP. THEY'VE DONE THE EXACT SAME PUT UP APARTMENT COMPLEXES RIGHT BEHIND THE HOMEOWNERS. AND I HAVE TWO HOMEOWNERS ON THAT STREET THAT CAN'T SELL THEIR HOMES RIGHT NOW. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS FOR THE CALLER? THANK YOU, SIR, FOR YOUR TIME. IS THERE, UH, STAFF, IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, THAT'S ALL. UH, WE WOULD, UH, JUST A REMINDER, YOU CAN, UH, PUT IT BACK TO THE APPLICANT FOR REBUTTAL. YES. OKAY. UM, UM, MR. BROWN, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME FOR RESPONSE? SURE. UH, CAN I HAVE ABOUT 45 MINUTES? UH, ? NO, , GETTING, UM, ALL RIGHT, IF EVERYONE IS STILL HERE, UH, I, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND. UH, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THIS PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. IT, IT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PARK OR OPEN SPACE. UH, AND SO REALLY WHAT'S [04:45:01] BEFORE YOU IS WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE DEVELOPED AS R SIX, UH, OR MULTIFAMILY IN, IN THIS CASE. UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE PROPOSING MF 18, BUT WE'RE ACTUALLY, UH, IT, IT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE 16 UNITS PER ACRE. UH, WE ARE PROPOSING A 50 50 FOOT BUFFER, UH, NATURAL BUFFER BETWEEN, UH, THE SUBDIVISIONS ON THE TWO SIDES OF US. UH, AND THAT IS THE PROTECTION OF ALL THE TREES. IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN THAT IS SUPERIMPOSED ON THE AERIAL, THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES IN THAT 50 FOOT BUFFER. AND, AND THEN WE ARE PROPOSING A 75 FOOT SETBACK. UH, IF YOU'VE SEEN THAT SINGLE FAMILY, UH, SUBDIVISION THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW, OR ANY COMMERCIAL SUBDIVISION, THEY DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF PROVIDING THAT KIND OF BUFFER WHEN THEY'RE LAYING OUT A SUBDIVISION OR, OR A COMMERCIAL PROJECT IF IT WERE COMMERCIAL. UH, MULTI-FAMILY HAS THAT FLEXIBILITY, AND THAT'S WHY WHEN I SAID EARLIER, A, A COMMUNITY LIKE THIS IS TYPICALLY ON, ON 10 ACRES. UH, WE'RE ON 13, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THREE ACRES TO, TO WORK WITH TO PROVIDE, UH, THE TREE PROTECTION, WHICH FOR WHICH PROVIDES, YOU KNOW, A BUFFER FOR LIGHTING AND NOISE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WE ARE PROVIDING THAT AND, AND WE HAVE PUT THAT IN A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, TO PROVIDE THAT SORT OF A, YOU KNOW, UH, BUFFER BETWEEN THE TWO USES. UM, I, I HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO ADDRESS CRIME OR PROPERTY VALUES OR SOME OF THE SORT OF EMOTIONAL THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT BACK THERE. THERE IS NO CORRELATION BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, INCREASE IN CRIME OR DECREASE IN PROPERTY VALUES, UH, WITH THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY. THERE, THERE'S NO, NO PROOF. UH, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT. AND SO I HOPE I DON'T HAVE TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THAT. UH, WHAT I WOULD SAY THAT ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ARE, I THINK, UH, THE TRAFFIC AND, UH, AND THE IMPACT ON SCHOOLS. I MEAN, THOSE ARE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. UH, OUR COMMUNITY HAS 96 OF THE UNITS OUT OF TWO 16 THAT ARE, ARE ONE BEDROOM. UH, WE KNOW OUR, OUR TARGET MARKET, UH, THEY'RE YOUNG SINGLE PEOPLE, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, UH, OLDER RETIRED PEOPLE, UH, THE YOUNG SINGLE PEOPLE ARE WORKING IN NON-TRADITIONAL, YOU KNOW, NON-PEAK HOUR JOBS, MORE SHIFT WORK, LIKE CALL CENTERS AT TARGET, AT HOSPITALS, AT SCHOOLS, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, SO WHILE I THINK WE'RE PROVIDING, I MEAN, WE'RE CREATING A LITTLE MORE TRAFFIC, WE DISPERSE IT A LOT BETTER, UH, A LOT BETTER THAN A SINGLE FAMILY, TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, ALSO, UH, ON IMPACT TO SCHOOLS, ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE 96 SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. THAT'S, UH, ONCE AGAIN, A LOT OF SINGLE AND AND RETIRED PEOPLE. A LOT LESS IMPACT ON THE SCHOOL, UH, THAN A 90 UNITS SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT IN THIS SITE. UH, SO, UH, I THINK, I'M PRETTY SURE JEAN'S STILL ON THE LINE. UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PUT IN COVENANTS, UH, YOU KNOW, DARK SKY, SKY LIGHTING SORT OF DEAL. WE'VE PUT IN THE, UH, THE BUFFERS, UH, THE, THE BUILDING SETBACKS. UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THE LOWEST DENSITY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR WORKFORCE HOUSING, UH, COMMUNITY THAT YOU'LL, THAT YOU WILL HEAR OF, I THINK ON, ON YOUR TIME, ON, ON ZONING COMMISSION. UM, I KNOW PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CHANGE, BUT THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, UH, AND I THINK THAT WE CAN DO IT IN A, A MORE RESPONSIBLE WAY THAN A, THAN A SINGLE FAMILY STICK-BUILT HOME OR SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL PROJECT. UM, SO AT THIS POINT, I KNOW GENE IS STILL ON. IF, IF YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING, I THINK WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MINUTES LEFT. SURE. THANK YOU. YES. THIS IS STEVE, MATT AGAIN. AND, AND, UM, I, I, I DON'T WANNA REPEAT EXACTLY WHAT BEEN SAID. UM, I WILL SAY, UM, THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF OUTREACH, UM, BY ME PERSONALLY. I KNOW THERE WAS ONE EMAIL THAT I MISSED THAT ACTUALLY CAME UP IN THAT, UM, IN THAT COMMENT, BUT IT STARTED IN EARLY APRIL, AND I'M LOOKING AT MY MEETING NOTES, AND IT WAS LITERALLY EVERY OTHER DAY OF CORRESPONDENCE. UM, THIS INCLUDED BY THE WAY, EVIDENCE NOT ONLY, UM, THIRD PARTY NATIONAL RESEARCH, BUT ALSO, UH, RESEARCH OF HEAD CORE PROPERTIES [04:50:01] NEXT TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WHERE THERE WAS CLEARLY NO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUE. SO, LIKE KEN SAID, THERE'S, THIS ISN'T JUST US SAYING THAT. THERE IS HARD EVIDENCE OUT THERE THAT I DID SHARE WITH THE NEIGHBORS, AND, UH, THEY JUST WEREN'T CONVINCED. UM, BUT IT, IT, IT IS THERE. AND WITH RESPECT TO OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THERE WAS MENTION OF OTHER MULTIFAMILY, YES, I KNOW THERE ARE SOME OTHER MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES, BUT THE CLOSEST AFFORDABLE, UM, DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT TWO MILES AWAY. YEAH. AND THE OTHER ONE IS THREE MILES AWAY, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT'S ING UP. IT'S OUR PROPERTY RIGHT NOW. UM, AND BY THE WAY, ING UP VERY QUICKLY, UM, BECAUSE THERE IS SUCH HIGH DEMAND FOR THIS HOUSING. THERE, THERE ARE NO OTHER AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS CENSUS TRACT. NONE IN ANY OF THE NEIGHBORING CENSUS TRACTS. AND FOR THE MOST PART, NONE IN THE CENSUS TRACT THAT ARE TWO CENSUS TRACTS AWAY FROM THIS ONE. THERE IS SUCH A HIGH DEMAND FOR THIS HOUSING CARE. AND, AND LIKE KEN SAID, UM, THIS, THIS IS NOT GONNA CONTINUALLY PROVIDE THAT TALKING ABOUT, OKAY, WORK WITH THESE NEIGHBORS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN THAT BUFFER, SIGN THOSE EVIDENCE. WE ARE THANK YOU PROPERTY MANAGERS. UM, AND, AND, AND SO WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN COMMIT TO THOSE THINGS AND UPHOLD THOSE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ALL, UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES. OKAY. UM, WHAT IF I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE? I'M JUST KIDDING. JUST KIDDING. NO. UM, I GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND THEN PROBABLY A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. UH, A FIRST QUESTION IS FOR THE APPLICANT, EITHER KEN OR JEAN. AND ON YOUR SITE PLAN, UM, I KNOW THAT, THAT THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS VOICED ABOUT THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE APARTMENTS. UM, COULD YOU TELL ME ARE LIKE, LIKE, SAY BUILDING NUMBER NINE, IS THAT A TWO STORY, THREE STORY, FOUR STORY, OR, OR WHAT, WHAT ARE THE HEIGHTS OF THIS BUILDING? SURE. I, THIS IS JEAN. I CAN ANSWER THAT. UM, THESE ARE ALL THREE STORY BUILDINGS, SO ABOUT 35 FEET FROM HEIGHT. OKAY. UM, IT IS TRUE THAT THE, THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THIS SITE AT THE CORNER, IT'S A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND FEET. AND WHERE THAT BUILDING IS, IT'S ABOUT NINE. JEAN, YOU GOTTA SPEAK UP. WE HAVE A HARD TIME HEARING YOU. I'M, I'M SORRY, I'M YELLING IN MY PHONE YELLING, . BUT I, I WILL SAY THAT THOSE ARE THREE STORY BUILDINGS, SO WOULD BE ABOUT 35 FEET HIGH, BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE, UM, OF LET ALMOST 20 FEET BETWEEN THE CORNER OF, UH, OUR SITE AND WHERE THAT BUILDING STARTS. UM, SO IT SLOPES DOWNWARD, SO IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE IT'S 35 FEET, UM, FROM THE NEIGHBORS. IT'S GONNA LOOK A LOT LESS THAN THAT. WE'RE LIKE 50 FEET. AND I WILL ADD TO THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF IT SHOWS UP ON YOUR SITE PLAN, UM, BUT THE CLOSEST THAT THAT CORNER BUILDING IS TO THE SOUTH LOT, THAT'S ABOUT 93 FEET. SO ALTHOUGH WE INCLUDED A 75 FOOT STEP BACK AND OUR RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, IN REALITY, THOSE BUILDINGS WILL PROBABLY BE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET FROM THE PROPERTY. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, UH, THE SECOND QUESTION IS ON, UM, ACCESS. RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SHOWING A SINGULAR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, IS, WILL THERE BE A REQUIREMENT FOR TWO ACCESS POINTS OR, OR FOR THIS AMOUNT OF APARTMENTS, ONE IS GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT? UM, SO WE HAVE BUILT SEVERAL DEVELOPMENTS IN SAN ANTONIO. UM, THE STARTING POINT IS TO HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS. UM, BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET, UM, THE, THE CITY WOULD APPROVE, WE BELIEVE, ONE ACCESS POINT HERE. WE DID LOOK AT THE OPTION OF HAVING AN ACCESS TO TESLA ROAD. UM, BUT THE QUICK TRIP, UM, OWNERS THERE WERE, WERE NOT INTERESTED IN THAT. OKAY. OKAY. AND THAT, THAT ACTUALLY LEADS TO ANOTHER QUESTION WHICH I, WHICH I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER TO, BUT JUST TO, UM, MAKE IT OFFICIAL, WOULD, WOULD THE NEIGHBOR, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT THE RESIDENTS BEING ABLE TO USE THE FACILITIES OF THE OTHER HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS? THAT WOULD NOT HAPPEN, WOULD IT? [04:55:04] ABSOLUTELY. I DIDN'T NOT, UM, AND HONESTLY, I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP. THIS IS A HIGHLY AMENITIZED DEVELOPMENT, IT'S OWN POOL PLAYGROUNDS, DOG PARKS, WHICH IS ANOTHER WAY TO MITIGATE TRAFFIC. FOLKS DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE GYM. WE HAVE A FITNESS CENTER, WE HAVE LAUNDRY CENTER, UM, HOOK UP IN THE, IN THE, UH, UNIT AND EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO KEEP OUR RESIDENTS ON OUR PROPERTY. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE FROM, FOR THE APPLICANT. AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT, OH, THE QUE I GUESS THE QUESTION FOR STAFF, UM, SINCE THIS IS A REZO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO THE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW ALL OF THE NEW TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCES, CORRECT? UH, SO IT'S NOT ZONING THAT TRIGGERS A CHANGE IN ZONING DOESN'T TRIGGER WHAT, UH, TREE PRESERVATION ORDINANCE YOU FOLLOW THAT HAS TO DO WITH THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. SO DEPENDING ON, ON, BUT IF I CAN ANSWER GO AHEAD KEN. WE, WE DIDN'T, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE, UH, WE DO NOT HAVE VESTED RIGHTS. WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE 2010, UH, ORDINANCE. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. WELL THAT, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I AM THINK THINKING OF RIGHT NOW. UM, SO WE'LL LET SOME OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIPES. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER, WHO THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. SO, UM, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON A 50 FEET, UH, BUFFER TO THE SUBDIVISION AND ALSO A 75 FEET SETBACK. SO I'M SURE YOU'VE DONE A, UH, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS. SO WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL ME YOUR FINDINGS RELATED TO THE INGRESS AND EGRESS FROM YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT TO AND FROM 1604 AND ALSO FROM FOUR 10? UM, SO WE, UH, THIS IS JEAN. WE HAVE NOT, UM, PERFORMED A COMPLETE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. HOWEVER, UM, I JUST PERSONALLY, UM, GOT WITH OUR, OUR ANALYSTS AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THOSE CODES. UM, WE DETERMINED JUST FROM THE I T E CODE T 20 THAT WE WOULD GENERATE ABOUT 114 P M P TRIPS. UM, AND THAT UNDER THE CURRENT ZONING, UM, WHERE YOU COULD BUILD 91 UNITS, ALTHOUGH I DOUBT YOU COULD REALLY GET THAT MANY ON THE SITE, LET'S SAY 75, THAT WOULD, UH, GENERATE ABOUT 75 PMT TRIPS. OKAY. SO, SO IF I LIVED IN YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND I NEED TO GET THE 1604 FROM WHAT I SEE HERE, HOW WOULD'VE TO DOT CROSS VANDER ROAD AND THEN TAKE A LEFT ON BEARING LANE, OR I MAKE A RIGHT ONTO BANDERA, I MAKE A U-TURN OR A LEFT ON PRUE TO GET TO 16TH OH FOUR, BUT IF I WAS COMING FROM FOUR 10, THEY WOULD'VE TO MAKE A U-TURN ON BANDERA. SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WITH ALL THESE U-TURNS THAT WE WOULD NEED LONGER TURN LANES AND THAT SECTION OF BANDERA ROAD NEAR YOUR SUBDIVISION, I DON'T BELIEVE HAVE THOSE LONG TURN LANES NOW. SO IF YOU NEED THOSE LONG TURN LANES, WHO DO YOU ANTICIPATE WOULD BE IMPROVING BANDERA TO ACCOMMODATE THIS ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC? WELL, AND WELL, I'M SORRY MY, MY VIDEO'S BEHIND, BUT, BUT WHEN, WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD, OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD FOLLOW ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE IN THAT T I A AND THEN FOLLOW ALL OF THE GUIDELINES FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. IF THAT MEANT IMPROVING BANDERA ROAD, UM, WITH A TURN LANE OR WHATEVER IT IS, THEN WE WOULD CERTAINLY DO THAT AS PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT. UH, COMMISSIONER IF, IF, JUST TO ADD ON TO WHAT JEAN JUST SAID. SO WE WILL HAVE TO COMPLETE A COMPLETE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS AND THEN WE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CITY'S ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, UH, ANALYSIS AND UH, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY OUR PRO RATA SHARE, UH, TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS TO ADDRESS OUR IMPACT ON, ON THAT, UH, THE ROADWAY SYSTEM WITHIN I THINK A MILE OR A MILE AND A HALF. OKAY. SO I, I LIVE A COUPLE MILES SOUTH OF YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CURRENT HORRENDOUS TRAFFIC NEAR 1604 IN BANDERA, I AVOID THAT TRAFFIC ANY WAY I, I AVOID THAT AREA ANY WAY I CAN. SO I, I, I SYMPATHIZE WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NEAR THERE. [05:00:02] SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. WELL, AND, AND SO DO WE, AND YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE SENDING IN THEIR COMMENTS. UH, THERE SEEMS TO BE, UH, A BELIEF THAT IF IT'S NOT US, THEN IT GOES BACK TO BEING A, AN OPEN SPACE, THE SINGLE. AND THAT'S WHY WE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AS OPPOSED TO OURS. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPER IS GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME ANALYSIS. SO THE T I A AND THE, AND THE ROUGH PROPORTIONALITY, UH, AND I THINK THEIR PEAK HOUR TRIPS WOULD BE GREATER THAN OURS BECAUSE OF, OF THE TYPE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY. OKAY, THANK YOU. YES, SIR. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HUEY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? OKAY. SORRY, MY SCREEN IS ODD. OKAY, SO, UM, REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISCUSS HERE IS THE, UM, LAND USE FROM RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY. UM, IT SEEMS THAT WE CAN'T SEEM TO DISCUSS YOUR TIA BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE, NOR CAN WE DISCUSS, UH, THE TREES THAT WILL BE REMOVED. BECAUSE I GUESS YOU'RE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMO TO DO THAT OTHER THAN MAYBE YOU'RE GONNA BE CHARGED A FEE FOR REMOVING, I DON'T KNOW. UH, WE CAN'T DISCUSS THE PROPERTY VALUE FOR SOME REASON THAT CAN'T BE DISCUSSED, NOR CAN WE DISCUSS THE CRIME. SO LET'S DISCUSS THE LAND USE, UM, HEAD CORE, UH, INVESTMENTS CORPORATION. IF I LOOK UP YOUR REVIEWS ONLINE, YOU DON'T HAVE VERY GOOD REVIEWS OF WHO YOU ARE. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOUR MANAGEMENT STYLE OR YOUR CONSTRUCTION STYLE, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE THAT YOU SPECIFICALLY PUTTING MULTIFAMILY OR HAVING US CHANGES TO MULTIFAMILY FOR YOUR UNITS IS A GOOD CHOICE. TODAY, YOUR REVIEWS AREN'T VERY GOOD. PEOPLE THINK YOU'RE PREDATORY, YOU'RE WORST OF THE WORST. THEY GIVE YOU ONE STAR. SOME OF YOUR STAFF IS RUDE. I'M JUST READING THIS OFF OF GOOGLE. UH, THEY THINK THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT, UM, THAT YOU BUILD THESE BAIT AND SWITCH TYPE OF COMMUNITIES. SO, BUT LET'S THINK OF HOW WE COULD BUILD THIS AS A RESIDENTIAL. IN RESIDENTIAL, THE BENEFIT THAT WE HAVE TO, THAT IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE VALUE OR EQUITY. THOSE WHO OWN HOMES HAVE MORE NET WORTH THAN THOSE WHO ARE RENTERS. THE AVERAGE IS AROUND 190,000 VERSUS A RENTER. THEIR NET WORTH IS 5,000. WHAT'S PETCO'S NET WORTH WHEN YOU BUILD THESE TYPE OF BUSINESS OR MULTIFAMILIES, YOU HAVE A LOT OF NET WORTH IN THERE, BUT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE HARDLY HAVE ANY. SO I'M NOT SO SURE, MAYBE YOU CAN CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE. WHAT IS THE VALUE TO THE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU WHO HAVE A NET VALUE OF ALMOST 250 K IN THEIR HOMES TO THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE THERE, WHOSE NET VALUE OR EQUITY IS 5,000 TO ZERO? BECAUSE THEY'RE RENTING, THERE'S NOTHING IN THEIR HANDS. MAYBE YOU COULD CONVINCE ME THE VALUE OF YOUR, SPECIFICALLY YOU PETCO, WHO DOESN'T HAVE A GOOD RATING, WHY YOU, YOU WOULD BRING VALUE TO THIS. WHAT I THINK IS ALREADY A VALUABLE LAND OF RESIDENTIAL TO MULTIFAMILY. I, I'M HAPPY TO, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT. UM, SO I GUESS I'LL GO FIRST IN THAT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND HAVE A VERY LARGE PORTFOLIO OF OVER 25,000 UNITS. YEAH, YOU DO. AND SO IT DOES NOT SURPRISE ME AT ALL THAT THERE WOULD BE A FEW BAD REVIEWS OUT THERE. THAT'S A A LOT OF PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT ARE HAPPY DON'T TEND TO NECESSARILY WRITE GREAT REVIEWS. BUT I HAVE IN MY HAND, I COULD TELL YOU FROM OUR, OUR, OUR DEVELOPMENT IN SAN ANTONIO IN OAK VALLEY ON, CALLED OAK VALLEY ON JUDSON ROAD, UM, I HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE VERY HAPPY TO LIVE THERE. AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE VALUE THAT WE BRING IS THE AFFORDABILITY, UH, AND THE, THE HIGH QUALITY OF THESE UNITS. WHAT WE'RE DOING IS PUTTING MONEY IN THE POCKET OF THOSE FOLKS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IF THEY WERE TO GO SOMEWHERE ELSE IN SAN ANTONIO RIGHT NOW, CANNOT AFFORD [05:05:01] TO RENT AND STILL PAY THEIR MEDICAL BILLS AND PUT GOOD FOOD ON THE TABLE, WE ARE ALLOWING THOSE FOLKS TO HAVE A SLIGHTLY REDUCED RENT. OKAY. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT. I'M JUST GONNA STOP YOU BECAUSE I HAVE A TIME LIMIT HERE. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REDUCED RENT. COULD YOU GO THROUGH THE REDUCTION OF RENT ON THESE, ON THESE UNITS? IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO, ONE, WHAT DO YOU HAVE? ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEDROOM APARTMENTS. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY. SO WHAT, WHAT'S THE LEASE OF A ONE BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM? UH, SO THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE A MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENT, BUT A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE. SO THE ONE BEDROOM UNIT WOULD RANGE FROM AS LITTLE AS $248 A MONTH TO 821. THAT'S IF I WAS RENTING THEM TODAY. UM, A TWO BEDROOM FROM 4 22 TO 9 89. AND WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE FROM FOUR? WHY DO YOU HAVE A DIFFERENCE? 4 22 TO 900? BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEY'RE BASED ON DIFFERENT INCOME LEVELS. OKAY. SO BASED ON UNITS TO FOLKS THAT ARE ANYWHERE, MAKING ANYWHERE FROM 30% A M I TO 70% A M I. OKAY. DO THE INDIVIDUALS NEED TO REQUALIFY EACH YEAR AS TO WHAT THEIR AND AND SHOW WHAT THEIR INCOME LEVEL IS? THEY NEED TO QUALIFY WHEN THEY RENT THE DEVELOPMENT. THEY, WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY INITIALLY RENT, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE UNDER THAT THRESHOLD THAT EITHER 30, 40, 50, 50, OR 70% A M I. OKAY. AND THEN DO THEY HAVE TO, UH, WHAT HAPPENS IF THEIR INCOME GOES UP? DO THEY, CAN THEY STILL REMAIN THERE OR DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE TO REQUALIFY THEM? NO, BECAUSE THIS IS A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE. THEY CAN REMAIN, BUT WHAT WE SEE TYPICALLY IS THAT THEY DON'T, UM, WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY TURN INTO HOMEOWNERS. HOW DO YOU, HOW AND WHAT'S YOUR STATS ON THAT? I DIDN'T SEE THAT. UM, I WOULD, I WOULD CALL THAT ANECDOTAL, BUT I COULD DEFINITELY, I COULD, I COULD GET YOU SOMETHING. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO TELL US WHY THEY, UM, BUT I'VE, I'VE TALKED WITH OUR PROPERTY MANAGEMENT TEAM ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT WITH CONFIDENCE. SO IF YOU HAVE ALREADY, UH, UNIT DOWN THE FRONT AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THEY TEND TO NOW GROW UP AND OUT OF THE UNITS AND BECOME HOMEOWNERS, THEN WHY NOT TAKE THIS LAND AND DEVELOP IT AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES UNDER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS STABILITY UNDER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IS THE HEDGE AGAINST INFLATION UNDER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. PEOPLE BUILD WEALTH. I PERSONALLY BELIEVE IN A VARIETY OF HOUSING IN A COMMUNITY. I THINK SINGLE FAMILY HAS ITS PLACE. I THINK RENTAL HAS ITS PLACE. AND I THINK AFFORDABLE RENTAL HAS ITS PLACE. I THINK IN THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT HERE THAT THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SOME AFFORDABLE RENTAL UNITS. THERE ARE A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY OWNERSHIP THERE ALREADY. I THANK YOU MR. WHAT, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? SURE. IF I COULD, UM, BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BRING IT BACK TO LAND USE AND I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT, UH, THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN ZONED, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY SINCE 1993. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT YOU'RE WRONG IN ANY WAY. IT'S JUST FOR THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, FROM A, YOU KNOW, LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, YOU HAVE THE SINGLE FAMILY ON ONE SIDE, YOU HAVE BANDERA ROAD AND QUICKTRIP AND C TWO AND C THREE ON THE OTHER SIDE. SO FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A PERFECT TRANSITIONAL USE BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY AND, YOU KNOW, C THREE, UH, PROBABLY ISN'T APPROPRIATE THERE UNDER OUR CURRENT PLANS, BUT THAT'S THE MOST INTENSIVE COMMERCIAL THAT YOU CAN GET. AND SO PUTTING SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT NEXT TO THAT IS NOT GOING TO BUILD EQUITY IN A HOME. I, I THINK THEY BUILT EQUITY IN THE INDIVIDUAL, THE INDIVIDUAL'S NET WORTH IS BETTER WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY ARE HOMEOWNERS THAN WHEN THEY ARE RENTERS. AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HEARD FROM PCOR THAT THEY MAKE THE EFFORT TO TAKE THE RENTER AT VERY SIGNIFICANT LOW RENTS AND MOVE THEM ON OUT TO HOMEOWNERS. THAT'S WHAT BRINGS WELL TO OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR THE CITY TO BE BUILDING, TAKING FEDERAL DOLLARS TO START DOING JOB PROGRAMS. WE DON'T WANNA BE PUTTING THEM INTO WORKFORCE HOUSING. WE WANT TO BE PUTTING THEM INTO A PLACE WHERE THEIR MONEY WORKS FOR THEM. AND THAT WOULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THAT'S MY THOUGHT. RIGHT. ANY OTHER, AND I THINK BY GIVING, I'M SORRY, A REDUCED RENT, THEY CAN SAVE THAT MONEY FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? [05:10:03] OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, I'LL JUST ASK KEN, BOTH THESE QUESTIONS TO SAVE TIME. UM, FIRST OF ALL, UH, WITHIN THIS LAND USE CATEGORY, UM, WHAT MULTIFAMILY CAN YOU GO UP TO? MF 18? MF 18 IS THE HIGHEST DENSITY. YEAH, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A PLAN AMENDMENT, UH, TO GO HIGHER. OKAY. UM, THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY, BECAUSE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. UM, SO WHEN, WHEN JEAN WAS TALKING, SHE GAVE THE TWO NUMBERS AND IT WAS LIKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE AND WHAT MULTI-FAMILY HOMES WOULD BE IN A, IT WASN'T A BIG DIFFERENCE. IT WAS LIKE 20 TRIPS OR SOMETHING. RIGHT? RIGHT. BUT THEN YOU SAID THE PART ABOUT HOW, UM, THE, THE NATURE OF, OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS SORT OF, UM, DEVELOPMENT, THAT THEY WOULDN'T, THEY DON'T HAVE JOBS WHERE THEY GO OUT AT RUSH HOUR SO MUCH. SO IS THAT ALREADY BUILT IN TO THE FIGURES THAT GENE GAVE US OR DOES THAT MAKE THE FIGURES EVEN CLOSER FOR THE TRIPS? I, I BELIEVE IT MAKES IT EVEN CLOSER BECAUSE THE, THE FIGURES THAT GENE GAVE YOU WERE FROM THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERING MODELS, YOU KNOW, UH, AND WHAT WE'RE GIVING YOU IS WHAT WE KNOW TO BE OUR, OUR TENANTS WHO ARE NOT TRADITIONAL EIGHT TO FIVE PEOPLE, UH, THAT WORK, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT KIND OF SHIFTS AND DON'T IMPACT THE PEAK HOUR AS MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UH, LEMME SEE. I THINK ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES. ALRIGHT, SO, UM, NOT TO PLAGIARIZE, UH, COMMISSIONER GREAT HOUSE'S COMMENT EARLIER, BUT THIS IS A VERY, VERY TOUGH CASE. UM, I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS AREA. UH, THIS IS THE AREA I GREW UP IN WHEN IN MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL, I STILL GET MY HAIR CUT ACROSS, UH, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF TSEL AND PRU, UM, AT BANDERA, ALTHOUGH IT'S BEEN SIX MONTHS SINCE I'VE DONE THAT. BUT, SO I, I UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS THAT SOME OF THE RESIDENTS HAVE, UM, REGARDING TREE COVER AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, I'LL BE HONEST, I DON'T LOOK AT WHETHER IT'S A TAX CREDIT PROPERTY OR NOT. UM, JUST BECAUSE AS Y'ALL REMEMBER FROM THE LAST CASE, I KIND OF LOOK AT OKAY, NOT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, BUT WHAT COULD BE PROPOSED. SO I LOOK AT WHETHER MF 18 WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE WHERE IT'S LOCATED RIGHT NOW? AND, YOU KNOW, HONESTLY, I COULD GO EITHER WAY. UM, IT'S, I CAN SEE WHERE THE, UH, APPLICANT HAS MADE GREAT, GREAT, UM, UH, CONCESSIONS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I MEAN, A 50 FOOT UNTOUCHED BUFFER. AND THEN THE, UH, THE, THE SETBACK IS JUST, IS JUST KIND OF INCREDIBLE. UM, I, I HAVE WATCHED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AS THEIR PROJECT DOWN BANDURA ROAD HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH, WITH BOTH THE DESIGN AND, UM, IT'S A REALIZATION. UM, I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITIES THAT IF SINGLE FAMILY CAME IN, THAT THE TRIPS WOULD BE ALMOST THE, THE, UH, THE TRIP COUNT WOULD ALMOST BE THE SAME. THAT SAID, UM, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO IGNORE THE, THE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF, OF RESIDENTS WHO, WHO VOICED OPINION AGAINST THE PROJECT. UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT THE, THE COUNCIL WOMAN'S OFFICE IS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY UNTIL WE HAVE A WORKABLE SOLUTION ON, ON BANDERA ROAD. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I LOOKED, WOULD, WOULD, UM, GOING TO MF [05:15:01] 18, IN MY OPINION, GOING TO MF 18 ACTUALLY MIGHT SAVE MORE TREE COVER. UM, HOWEVER, IT SEEMS THAT THE, THE, THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTS ALMOST WANT TO, UM, TO TAKE, UH, I DON'T WANT TO HAVE SAY THIS IN A NEGATIVE WAY, BUT ALMOST TAKE A CHANCE ON THAT, THAT, UH, THE TREE COVER WOULD BE IMPROVED WITH, WITH R SIX, YOU KNOW, UNTIL YOU HAVE A PLAN YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. UM, BUT CONSIDERING THE OPPOSITION, CONSIDERING THE KIND OF, UM, BELIEF ON INCREASING DENSITY AT THIS TIME ON BANDERA ROAD, I WILL BE MAKING A, UM, A MOTION FOR DENIAL ON, ON THIS CASE. SECOND HUEY, WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER SIPES AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HUEY. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. UH, THAT WAS A VERY LARGE VOICE THAT WAS SPOKEN HERE TODAY BY COMMUNITIES THAT SOUND VERY ACTIVE, AWARE, INVOLVED, AND THEY KNOW THEIR COMMUNITY AND THEY KNOW WHAT IS GONNA BE BEST SUITED FOR THEM IN THAT AREA. AND I THINK, UH, THEIR VOICE NEEDS TO BE HEARD AND SHARED, AND HOPEFULLY THE COUNCILWOMAN WILL CONCUR WITH, WITH THE DECISION THAT SHOULD HAVE PASSED TODAY. I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HEAD CORE THEMSELVES. THEY'VE ALREADY BUILT ONE DOWN THE ROAD. THEY'RE BUILDING ANOTHER ONE HERE. THEIR REVIEWS ARE HORRIBLE PREDATORY LEASING. STAY AWAY THE WORST OF THE WORST AWFUL STAFF. DON'T LET THEM BUILD IN YOUR TOWN. THESE PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF CROOKS. I MEAN, THOSE ARE NOT VALIDATED. I DON'T THINK THAT'S OKAY TO, IT'S ALMOST LIKE I DON'T THINK THAT'S OKAY TO READ THAT. NOW, CHAIR, DON'T INTERRUPT ME WITH MY TIME. SO I'M, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IS, IF WE HAVE A LEGAL ISSUE, I'M AM CONCERNED WITH IT. IT'S ON GOOGLE REVIEW. I'M ONLY READING WHAT'S ONLY PUBLIC. I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL THAT IS COME AND IS GONNA BUILD AND TAKE AWAY LOTS OF LO UH, HOMEOWNER OWNER, HOME HOMEOWNERS, HOMEOWNERSHIP, , WHICH I THINK IS WHAT REALLY BUILDS OUR CITY. PEOPLE WHO HAVE EQUITY IN THEIR LIVES, IN THEIR HOMES, IN THEIR HAND, TO BE A, A RENTER. YOU ARE NOT BUILDING EQUITY. WHAT IS MY TIME UP? I'M SORRY, MA'AM. CHAIR. I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING. OH, SOMEBODY JUST SAID SOMETHING DISPARAGING AGAINST ME. WHO WAS THAT? I DON'T, MADAM CHAIR, WAS THERE A COMMENT? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A COMMENT. OH, WELL I DIDN'T HEAR ONE. YEAH. DID SOMEONE I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING. DIDN'T HEAR THAT. ALL RIGHT. I'LL QUIT. OKAY. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE AND, AND I, I WANNA THANK EDCO FOR REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY LISTENING AND DOING SOME RESEARCH ON THEIR, THEIR OWN. UM, I, I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE THAT. I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO RESOLVE SOME OF THESE ISSUES. UM, THAT SAID, AND, UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I LOOK AT, AND I KNOW IT'S ABOUT LAND USE, BUT I ALSO LOOK AT WHY ARE WE, WHY DO WE WANNA DEVELOP THAT PARTICULAR ITEM ON THAT LAND? AND IN THIS CASE IT'S BECAUSE WE WANNA AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND WE'VE HEARD ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC COUNT AND THE PEAK TRIPS AND WHAT HAVE YOU. BUT I ALSO LOOK AT THIS CASE JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CASE WITH, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T NECESSARILY DRIVE, DON'T HAVE A VEHICLE? AND, AND, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S PART OF THE CONSIDERATIONS UNDER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PARTICULAR SITE IS NOT VERY NEAR THAT WORK AREA THAT WAS, UH, IDENTIFIED. AND I'M LOOKING AT BANDERA ROAD AND THERE ARE NO SIDEWALKS FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY THAT FAR DOWN TO GIVE ANY MEANS FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. AND THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYBODY, I THINK, TRYING TO BICYCLE ALONG BANDERA ROAD AT THIS POINT IN TIME, UNLESS YOU JUST ARE VERY, YOU KNOW, LIVED TO LIVE FOR DANGER. UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT'S WEIGHING ON MY MIND RIGHT NOW AS I'M CONSIDERING THIS CASE. UM, I CERTAINLY HEARD THE, UH, THE MESSAGES FROM THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE, AND I'LL TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS [05:20:01] WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. THANK YOU. I DON'T, I MIGHT BE EMOTIONAL FOR JUST ONE SECOND HERE. I NEVER HAD TO LIVE IN A FULL, NEVER HAD TO LIVE IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I NEVER HAD A CHALLENGE IN THAT REGARD, BUT IT'S GETTING REALLY HARD FOR ME TO LISTEN TO THIS WEEK AFTER WEEK. IT SEEMS LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING JUST CAN'T BE NEAR OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS. THERE'S ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS A REASON. IT CAN'T BE NEAR ANYBODY ELSE. THIS IS NEAR OTHER JOBS. THERE ARE A LOT OF BUSES ON BANDERA ROAD. THERE ARE PLACES YOU COULD WALK FROM HERE. AND I DON'T REALLY AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN TERMS OF WHAT IS THE VALUE TO THE $250,000 EQUITY PEOPLE, TO THOSE WHO HAVE ZERO EQUITY. AND I DON'T BELIEVE THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOME OWNERSHIP IS WHAT BUILDS OUR CITY. I THINK THAT WHAT BUILDS OUR CITY IS TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE WHO NEED SOME EXTRA HELP. AND I THINK THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING CAN DO THAT. ASIDE FROM THAT, THE LAND USE MAKES SENSE HERE. I DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING HERE, BUT IF IT IS, I DON'T THINK THE QUALITY IS GONNA BE REALLY GOOD. AND I ABSOLUTELY SURE THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A 50 FOOT BUFFER NEXT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ACCORDING TO LAND USE PRINCIPLES, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE SINGLE FAMILY RIGHT NEXT TO THE C THREE. SO ACCORDING TO LAND USE PRINCIPLES, MULTI-FAMILY REALLY DOES MAKE SENSE HERE. UM, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS. I UNDERSTAND BANDERA ROAD, WHEN ANYBODY ELSE TALKS ABOUT BAD TRAFFIC IN THE CITY. I KNOW THAT BANDERA ROAD AT RUSH HOUR IS PROBABLY THE WORST EXAMPLE WE HAVE IN THE CITY, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE. I DO THINK THE TREE COVER WILL BE SAVED, UM, AGAIN, THAT YOU'RE JUST NOT GONNA SEE THAT 50 FOOT BUFFER WITH ANYTHING ELSE GOING IN HERE. AND I'M OUT OF TIME. UH, BUT I DO, UM, I THANK THE COMMISSIONER AND I UNDERSTAND HIS POSITION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE, JUST BRIEFLY. UM, AND TO SAVE TIME, UH, I JUST WANT TO ECHO WHAT COMMISSIONER ROMERO SAID. I THINK HER STATEMENTS ARE DEAD ON, UH, AND THE EMOTION IS APPRECIATED. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER EK. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH COMMENTS? OKAY, WELL, I TOO LIVED IN THIS AREA MYSELF. I, UH, I WAS A, A IT DIRECTOR OF A COMPANY THAT BOUGHT AND SOLD AND MANAGED OTHER COMPANIES. AND I HAD MY FOUR CHILDREN AND I RENTED A HOUSE IN THIS VERY AREA. I PATRONIZED ALL OF THOSE BUSINESSES AND THERE WERE TIMES THAT MY CAR DIDN'T WORK, SO MAYBE WE MIGHT EVEN BE ON THE BUS IN THAT AREA WALKING, BUT, AND SO TO SAVE MONEY SO I COULD BUY A HOUSE, I DID END UP HAVING TO RENT AN APARTMENT, BUT I CERTAINLY AM NOT A CRIMINAL , THAT'S FOR SURE. AND, UM, I, UM, THINK THAT PROBABLY A LOT OF PLACES THEY WERE ONCE GREEN BUILT BEFORE THEIR HOUSES WERE BUILT. SO, UM, SO I THINK OKAY. LEAVING THAT ALONE. AND SO WORKFORCE HOUSING IS 15,000 TO 58,000 A YEAR. SO THAT'S YOUR MEDICAL ASSISTANCE, YOUR TEACHERS, YOUR RETAIL, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING IN THAT AREA, THE TARGETS, THE HEBS AND WHATNOT. SO, UM, AND SOME OF 'EM ARE PROBABLY COLLEGE STUDENTS WORKING ON GETTING THEIR TALENT. UM, SO I BELIEVE THAT, UM, IT'S OKAY TO LET US SERVE YOU BUT NOT NECESSARILY LIVE WITH YOU. OKAY. BUT, UM, I THINK TO ME, I THOUGHT IT MADE SENSE. IT'S, UH, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THERE. THE C THREE IS THE NEXT TO IT, UM, AND THE RETAIL AND SERVICE BUSINESSES IN THE AREA. SO I ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD BUFFER. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE, THE AMENITIES THAT ARE THERE AND THE BUFFER THAT THE, THE, UM, DEVELOPER EXTRA BUFFER THAT THE DEVELOPER IS PUTTING THERE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A GREAT FIT MYSELF. UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENTS. AND SO NOW WE'LL MOVE FOR ROLL [05:25:01] CALL. VOTE PLEASE. IT'S A MOTION FOR DENIAL. COMMISSIONER JONES, MAKE SURE TO HIT UNMUTE. YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH. COMMISSIONER KAMATH, ARE YOU STILL THERE OR DID HE LEAVE? YES, HE HAD, HE LEFT EARLIER. HE HAD ANOTHER MEETING. AH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO. AND CHAIR MCGEE? NO. MOTION FAILED. FIVE TO THREE. AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, YOU COULD HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER FROM SOMEONE WHO, UH, VOTED AGAINST THAT MOTION AND THEN HAVE A NEW MOTION MADE. IF NOT, IT AUTOMATICALLY COMES BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING IN TWO WEEKS. OKAY. SO THERE IS NO MOTION TO RECONSIDER. SO IT COMES BACK AND, UM, AT THE NEXT ZONING COMMISSION HEARING, THAT IS OUR LAST CASE FOR, UM, THIS EVENING. UM, [Items 16 & 17 ] DOES IT, DO ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES THAT WERE SENT? MADAM CHAIR, I HAVE A POINT OF INFORMATION. I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MINUTES. AND SO I WAS WONDERING WHY THERE IS A RECONSIDERATION OF THE, FORGIVE ME. GIVE ME ONE. JULY 22ND, THE JULY 22ND, UH, MINUTES STAFF, OR JULY 7TH. SORRY, SEVENTH WAS JAN. I, SORRY. , THIS IS CHRISTIE. UH, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION BY THE APPLICANT THAT THE NOTICES THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD AT THAT MEETING WERE INCORRECT. AND THAT'S WHAT GOT PUBLISHED IN THE, IN THE MINUTES FOR TWO OF THEM. FOR THERE, IT WAS RECORDED IN THE MINUTES THAT TWO OF THE, OF THOSE THAT, UH, WROTE, UH, LETTERS IN, UH, THE MINUTES REFLECTED OPPOSITION WHEN ACTUALLY THEY WERE SUPPORT. SO WE NEEDED TO MAKE THAT EDIT AND IT WAS FOR THE EVEREST CASE IN DISTRICT ONE. SO, SO WE'RE, SO WE'RE APPROVING THE JULY, LET ME GET TO MY, UH, SCREEN YES. CAN ACTUALLY HELP ME OUT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE RIGHT SCREEN AND I CANNOT, SO CAN YOU READ THE DATES OF JULY 7TH MEETING? THE JULY 7TH MEETING. OKAY. ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS TO THE JULY 7TH MINUTES BY ANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. AND THEN FOR THE, UH, AUGUST THE 18TH, 18TH, 18TH MINUTES. ANY CORRECTIONS? OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, I I I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES IN ITEM 16 AND 17. OKAY. IS THERE A SECOND? COMMISSIONER SIPES SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. A ROLL CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GRAU? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SITES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? [05:30:02] OH NO, NOT TODAY. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL, EVERYBODY AGAIN, AS ALWAYS, YOU ARE TROOPERS AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE AND I SURE, UH, HOPEFULLY THE COMMUNITY DOES TOO. AND I PRAY BOUNTIFUL BLESSINGS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. IT IS CURRENTLY 6:47 PM BE BLESSED EVERYBODY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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