* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:43] THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF YOU PLEASE. PERSONNEL COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER JONES. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. HERE. AKI. COMMISSIONER. HU. COMMISSIONER. PRESENT. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER. SS. AKI. COMMISSIONER. WHITE. COMMISSIONER. WHITE. AKI. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. HERE. AKI COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER SITE HERE. AKI AND CHAIR. BUSMAN. E ANTONIO. THE SAN ANTONIO VOICE TO BE CALLED INDIVIDUAL FREDERICKSBURG AUSTIN HIGHWAY ROAD. YES. INDO IN IN, UH, FOURTH STREET E. KIN IN WEST COMMERCE STREET. JUST FOR CLARITY, ITEM NUMBER 13. COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY? NO. COMMISSIONER WOULD [00:05:14] THE H AVENUE FROM N D SAYS ON, UM, AUSTIN HIGHWAY WEST. UM, AND D TO N CS H L A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR MEDICAL. THERE WERE 37 NOTICES. NONE RECEIVED AN OPPOSITION. AND DENVER HEIGHT IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 11. ROAD. SORRY. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT. UH, MR. CHAIR. I MAKE A MOTION TO TO SECOND FRIENDLY MEMBER. I'M SORRY. YES. OKAY. A MOTION AND A SECOND. AND MAKE SURE I HAVE COMMISSIONER. OKAY. THANK YOU. SENIOR COMMISSIONER. GREENHOUSE CO COMMISSIONER. GREENHOUSE. C. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER JONES. YES. C COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER KER. YES. C. COMMISSIONER? WE. COMMISSIONER. C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. YES. C. COMMISSIONER. GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER. GIBBONS. YES. C COMMISSIONER. WHITE. COMMISSIONER. WHITE. C. COMMISSIONER. MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. YES. C COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER SITES. OH, MAKE SURE TO HIT ON MUTE MR. ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY. OKAY. NO. OKAY. IF WE COULD MOVE ON. I'M SORRY. YES. THANK YOU. YES. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. [00:10:04] ONE. I'M SORRY IF I COULD INTERRUPT YOU JUST FOR ONE SECOND. THAT COMMISSIONER A MOTION AND A SECOND. COMMISSIONER JONES. C COMMISSIONER. KAMIN. COMMISSIONER. KERMIT? YES. C. COMMISSIONER? WE. COMMISSIONER. C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. C. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. C. COMMISSIONER. WHITE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. C. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIELS. C COMMISSIONER. SYS COMMISSIONER. SYS? YES. C AND CHAIR. GU. E UH, PRESIDENT GU C. MOTION PASSES. LA ALRIGHT. BE WE COULD INDIVIDUAL AND WEST AVENUE. UH, UH, FOR MR. RILEY? YES, I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. MR. RILEY CAN HEAR YOU. I'M NOT SURE IF THIS HAS BEEN, I HAD A MEETING WITH OUR PRACTICE FOR ME. I WOULD, UH, YES. THE LIVE COLOR SHOULD BE ABLE TO COMMENT TODAY. [00:15:15] UH, MR. CHAIRMAN BURG. MOTION CHAIR PRESIDENT. SO, NO, I, I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO MYSELF. APPARENTLY, UM, COMMISSIONER GIBBS IS CORRECT THAT THE MOTION WOULD COME FROM CASE IS TO CONSIDERED GREENHOUSE. WE NEED, BECAUSE WE COULD PROCEED AS ONE STAFF IF WE COULD PROCEED. UH, WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY THE VOICEMAIL NOW. DUPLEX PARKING THAT A DUPLEX WITH APPROPRIATE PARKING SPOTS WILL ALLOW FOR WHERE THE FOURPLEX WOULD OVERFLOW. FOURPLEX EXPERIENCE. YEAH. THE, A RESIDENCE CAR AS HE WAS TRYING TO NAVIGATE. I APPRECIATE [00:20:23] MS. HILL. ARE YOU ON THE LINE? YOU'RE ADDRESSING THE ZONING COMMISSION. GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. INTERFERED HEARING. I'M SEEING NONE. THANK YOU MS. BU. WOULD THE APPLICANT, UH, HE WE'RE CONTINUANCE PARA, UH, LAS LOS IN? MAKE THAT FOR THE RECORD. UH, AS FAR AS, UM, REASON WHY I FOUR. PLEX FOR PLEXUS [00:25:27] GREENHOUSE. OKAY. MR. GREENHOUSE, I APOLOGIZE. UH, SENIOR GREENHOUSE. GREENHOUSE. I HEARING AND SEEING NONE. BUENO? YES. YES. COMMISSIONER? WE COMMISSIONER WE C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. C. COMMISSIONER. GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER. UH, GIBBONS. C. COMMISSIONER. WHITE COMMISSIONER. WHITE. C. COMMISSIONER. MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. C. COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER. SITES PASSES. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER, I'LL, I'LL REMAIN IN A SUPPORTING ROLE, CORRECT. IN [00:30:18] CHRISTENSEN AS REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTENSEN. OKAY. , GR HOUSE. C. COMMISSIONER JONES. SAME. COMMISSIONER KM? YES. SAME. COMMISSIONER. HUI. SAME. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. C. COMMISSIONER. GIBBONS. C. COMMISSIONER. WHITE. C. COMMISSIONER. MCDANIEL. C. COMMISSIONER. C. OKAY. [00:35:10] OKAY. OKAY. THE MILITARY DRIVE. [00:41:52] OKAY. VAN. OKAY. THE MILITARY DRIVE. E ROOSEVELT AVENUE. OKAY. GRA. OKAY. [00:45:19] AND CONTRAST. OKAY. GRA. OKAY. HOME DEPOT. [00:51:03] LOST ALTERNATIVE. UM, OKAY. AND [00:55:57] THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. UH, PROP MULTIPLE CONSTRUCTION CO. [01:00:19] ACTUALLY, I HAVE ONE QUESTION TO CLARIFY THE TYPE OF, UM, BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE LEASING TO. UM, OKAY. AND THEN, UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED HAS QUITE A FEW USAGE. REMIND ME AGAIN, BIGGEST PROBLEMS WITH THE UNKNOWN. SO WOULD THEY BE WHAT, WHAT WOULD I MEAN, SO IF THE CQ CD WOULD NO, NO, [01:05:13] I'M SORRY. THE USE THAT THEY NEED FOR THAT PROPERTY. OKAY. PER SE. OKAY. WITH TWO DIFFERENT ANGELS ON EACH I DIFFERENT. I DO DIFFERENT. UH, I SEE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER, UH, GIS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. WITH REGARD TO MY COLLEAGUE TO ME. UM, COMMISSIONER MCDANIELS. COMMISSIONER GIS. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A PROBLEM WITH YOU. ARIA. MCDANIEL. UM, JESSICA [01:10:02] SOLUTION. GRACIA SYS, UM, UM, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. READY TO GO. COMMISSIONER PASO MALIST IN GREENHOUSE. C. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER. UH, JOHN C. COMMISSIONER. KAMIT. COMMISSIONER KER. YES. S C. COMMISSIONER? WE. COMMISSIONER. C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. NO. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. YES. C COMMISSIONER? WHITE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. UH, C. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. NO. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER SYS? NO. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. C E. NO. MOTION PASSES. ALRIGHT. ALL GRA. GRA FIVE, ITEM NUMBER FIVE. ROAD BU [01:15:05] MILITARY SINCLAIR AND RESUMING CONSTRUCTION IS UM, THE SALUTE OR THE, [01:20:26] UM, SIGNIFICANT THE SAN ANTONIO? I COMMENT. JEFFREY, UH, DRIVE [01:25:04] SINCLAIR. THE E CONSTRUCTION, UH, INCLUDE AFFECT? UH, ME. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MR. HARRIS. ANY REBUTTAL? MR. HARRIS? MR. HARRIS? UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? UM, INCLUSIVE, [01:31:13] UH, IT IS UH, NO RU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. PRESIDENT. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE ASKED ABOUT COMM ANTE. THEY MIGHT HAVE, UM, SUBMITTED, I THINK MR. GARCIA SUBMITTED VO O GARCIA VO, BUT THERE WERE QUITE A FEW, UH, LETTERS IN OPPOSITION. LAST, UH, THE OPPOSITION TO THE UM, APPLICANT SOLICIT CONSTRUCTION RESTAURANT OR YOU UNSURE? IS THAT CORRECT? NO. NO. NO. OKAY. I THINK I JUST MOSTLY HAVE COMMENTS. UH, A NOT FOR TRACK, WHAT WE CALL TRACK. NO. GET MY GLASSES ON. I BELIEVE IT'S THE ONE THAT'S GOT A CHECK BOX ON IT. THERE'S ALREADY A RESIDENTIAL HOUSE THERE. I, UH, [01:35:49] RE AS THE, UH, THEY'RE PLANTED SEPARATE LOTS RIGHT NOW. ZONING. I HAVE A QUESTION TO, WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION ARE ASKING TO DO OH, OKAY. IN AN OFFICE SO WE KNOW THE CURRENT PLANS FOR THAT. WHATEVER FALLS IN THE C ONE, YOU HAVE A ROAD EASEMENT. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, GRACIA, COMMISSIONER GIBBS, CI ES NONE. AND HEARING NONE, THIS IS THE QUESTION I MEANT EARLIER FROM THAT WAS OPPOSITION FROM UHS. WE USUALLY, UH, HAVE TO RECEIVE EITHER THE SLIP OPPOSITION, ABUSE COUNT IN OPPOSITION, THE [01:40:11] OKAY OF TODAY'S. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION. SOMETHING THAT WOULD WORK. YEAH. BUT NOTHING WORKED . BUT I REALLY WANT TO JUST REALLY FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY PUT IN THIS AND ALSO THE FACT THAT IT IS SO MANY UNKNOWNS HERE. I GUESS. IS IT APPROVAL THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL? UM, VOTE FOR, IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS? RE MOTION FOR THE, OKAY. OKAY. MOTION. SECOND. MOTION. A MOTION FOR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? I MUST, UH, DISCUSSION? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I SUPPORT THE UH, COMMISSIONER FOR YOUR COMPLIMENTS BACK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO THE HEARING. UM, COMMISSIONER GIBBS? I'M OKAY WITH THE [01:45:24] STAFF. WE CALL COMMISSIONER HOUSE. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE. C. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER JONES. C COMMISSIONER. CAMAN COMMISSIONER KURTMAN. YES. C COMMISSIONER? WE COMMISSIONER LEE C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. C COMMISSIONER. GIBBONS COMMISSIONER. THE GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. YES. C. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER THE MCDANIEL. C. COMMISSIONER SYKES. COMMISSIONER SYKES. C CHAIR MCGEE. AND THE RIGHT NOW JUST CANCEL. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER SIX, THE REQUEST TO INSPECTION. [01:50:35] COMMISSIONER GR. COMMISSIONER GR. HOUSE. C. COMMISSIONER JONES. C. COMMISSIONER KIM? YES. C. COMMISSIONER HUI. C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. C. COMMISSIONER GIBBS. C COMMISSIONER. WHITE. C. COMMISSIONER. ANIEL. C. COMMISSIONER. SIMES. COMMISSIONER. E. COMMISSIONER. AND [01:56:06] OKAY. COMMISSIONER? I UNLOADED. OKAY. PERMITTED. [02:00:28] OKAY. COMMISSIONER C. COMMISSIONER HUI. C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. C COMMISSIONER. C. COMMISSIONER. WHITE. C. COMMISSIONER. ANIEL. C. OKAY. [02:09:32] MARGARET, RIVERA, [02:11:46] MARIE, JOE, JASON, CO. MORE RESIDENT. M WE LOOK TO MANY CELEBRATIONS WITH AVENUE. MARISSA, BURG, [02:16:04] MAGNOLIA, UH, MAGNOLIA, FREDERICKSBURG WEST. ARE YOU THERE? NO. AM I SUPPOSED TO BE ? DID WE CHANGE, DID WE CHANGE HANDS AND I, NO. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I WAS JUST GONNA SAY IT'S UP TO THE TWO OF YOU. HOWEVER YOU THAT WAS THE APPLICANT IS, UH, I MEAN THAT WAS THE CASE. IS THE APPLICANT PRESENT? I'M SORRY THAT WAS BUT THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT. BUT THE APPLICANT. MR. OKAY. I AM MUCH NO, GO AHEAD. NO. OH, PARDON IS THANKFUL FOR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. I THIS. THANK YOU MR. COCHRAN. GRA YES. SENIOR COCHRAN. SO, UH, COMMISSIONER GRAY HOUSE. COMMISSIONER GRAY HOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, I DO A OF [02:20:31] BURGS AND WEST KING, UH, HIGHWAY IS CORRECT. OKAY. WILL THERE BE ANY I JUST WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER. UM, I AND WILL THERE BE FOOD SERVED ALONG WITH BEVERAGES? OKAY. UM, KIND LIKE MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE THE, SHE HAS MORE OF THAT. HOURS OF BU OKAY. UM, [02:25:59] NO, NO, NO, NO. DS. DS AND APPLICANT. GOOGLE MAPS. UH, FOR, UH, CONVERSION, UH, IN THE OLD DISTRICT. OKAY, WE'RE LOOKING IT UP NOW. UM, AND I GUESS WHILE WE'RE LOOKING THAT UP AS WELL AS E THE NO. NO. OKAY. UM, AND THEN JUST THE ANSWER TO MY PREVIOUS QUESTION. THAT'S NEXT DOOR, MARC. OKAY. [02:30:03] NO FURTHER. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GRACIA. COMMISSIONER I, UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER UH, JONES. THE SEATING. MR. COCHRANE. UH, SENIOR COCHRAN? YES. NO, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE. DETERMINED. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. FREDERICKSBURG. UM, UM, JOSEPH CHRISTIE? UM, [02:36:51] UM, FREDERICKSBURG. FREDERICKSBURG PIZZERIA? YES. CONSTANT. [02:40:26] YOU FOR THE COMMENT? COMMENT. I THINK THAT IS IT. I KNOW THAT, UH, BROUGHT YOU SAID THAT I, UM, IT'S THE COMPARISON. PIZZERIA CORRIDOR SD. I THINK MY COLLEAGUES HAVE PRETTY MUCH DONE A GREAT JOB GETTING, NO. OKAY. GRA THE, YOU REMODELED WHAT WAS THE'S GYM INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE, THE JOHN JAMES CONDITION MOVING. I WISH I COULD SEE THE FRONT LOCATION, THE ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING. IS IT CONCRETE PAD? [02:45:23] OKAY. I LIKE THE DECO LOOK. PIZZERIA FROM I, COMMISSIONER WHITE. SORRY ABOUT THAT. COMMISSIONER. WHITE. ANY GRA COMMISSIONER? WHITE COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, GRASO A LITTLE DIFFICULT PARA, UM, UM, FOR ME, UH, THAT THE MARY STRIP, UM, AND EAGLE TIRE, UM, ON FANTASTIC. NO, ANY OF THOSE. SO I HAVE YOU [02:50:32] COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE. ANY COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE? COMMENT, DISCUSSION? COMMENT. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER GIVENS. I DON'T KNOW. AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? 'CAUSE I'VE NEVER, ST. MARY'S NOT MY THING. UH, ST. MARY'S NO. IS EMBARGO THE, UH, YOU HAVE SO MANY FAVOR. SO, UM, EGYPT, UM, NOT TRANSFORM. UM, COMMISSIONER? UM, YES. YEAH. I'M SORRY. CAN UM, UM, DID YOU HAVE A MAP OF KINGS HIGHWAY THAT SHOWS, UM, MAP OF THE KINGS HIGHWAY? THE OPPOSITION WAS OUTSIDE OF THE 200 FEET. I MEAN IN KINGS HIGHWAY [02:55:12] COMMISSIONER. SYS COMMISSIONER SYS, YES. AND THIS IS JUST A, I MEAN TO ADD ON, YES. MONTICELLO PARK IS OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY. NEIGHBORHOOD IS THE LIMITED JEFFERSON IN OPPOSITION. JUST PARDON ME. WHAT PARKING LOT ON, UM, UM, FOR THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CIA. COMMISSIONER S COMMISSIONER WHITES. WORST CASE SCENARIO. COMMISSIONER. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? [03:00:06] SO, UM, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, I SUPPORTIVE TO RESTRICT THEIR HOURS AND WE STILL CAN'T HEAR YOU. UH, YOU'RE NOW, YEAH. OKAY. UH, THE SCHOOL I UNDERSTAND WHISKEY BAR CLASSICAL, WHAT? THEIR DISCUSSION? NO, I MUST DISCUSSION. OKAY. COMM GRAY HOUSE. AND I DO JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION AND I THIS POINT ASK, WILLING TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF, UM, AND THAT'S FOR YOU OR, UH, FOR YOUR CLIENT. OKAY. SO I, UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, AND I'LL LET AMELIA DISCUSS AS WELL. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING, SITTING HERE LOOKING AT HOPING MAKE POINT THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO NO. IS OF THE HOURS RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, WHAT? I CAN'T AGREE TO A TIME RIGHT NOW THAT JUST DOESN'T NO, EXACTLY. YOU KNOW, HAND IN [03:05:11] POSITION. OKAY. UH, UH, HAS POTENTIAL TO A MOTION. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL MCDANIEL. CALL VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE. COMMISSIONER GR HOUSE. MM-HMM. ? I THOUGHT I WAS UNMUTED. YES. OH, COMMISSIONER KURTMAN. NO. NO. COMMISSIONER, WE COMMISSIONER? SI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. YES. SI. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. NO. NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. C. COMMISSIONER SIDE COMMISSIONER UHS. YES. C THE COMMISSIONER. BUSANTE COMMISSIONER ANTE? NO. NO. ANDEE? NO. NO. GREENHOUSE? NO. COMMISSIONER HUI? NO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSION. KEVINS C COMMISSION. WHITE C COMMISSION. MCDANIEL NO COMMISSION. SIPES. [03:11:33] OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. KIM BROWN AND COMMUNITY. OKAY. PERFECTO. [03:15:29] UHG, UH, [03:21:28] DRIVE AND [03:25:41] THIS [03:31:25] HOUSING COMPLEX COST. ROAD. ROAD IN [03:37:58] RANCH, KEVIN, VIRGINIA. AND [03:41:09] AND FIELD. SOME ESTATE IS MULTI ROMAN. I'M [03:45:14] STEVE TRANFERRED, DIVISION JOSEPH. MS. JOSEPHS MILLER, JD MILLER OR DANIEL MILLER? UH, THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN, WE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY IN THE AREA AND WE HAVE SEEN THE PROJECT OF, UH, TO 50, UH, APARTMENTS IN BANDURA ROAD. I, I [03:50:57] ROAD THE REZONING REQUEST. LAURA AND KAREN. AND, AND IN, UH, DIANE PRO PRO AND, UH, CYNTHIA MORGA. UM, [03:55:04] CYNTHIA ONE UN RESIDENT DISTRICT, UM, TRANSIT, UH, YES. CASE AND, UH, SOLICITOR, UM, BANDERA E PARDON ME, IS UH, UH, AND IN THERE APPEARS TO BE A SIGNIFICANT MISALIGNMENT BETWEEN THE ZONING COMMISSION AND THE DEVELOPER S INFORMATION PROVIDED. TERRY NINE AL IN [04:00:02] E, UH, ME, CAA VALOR FOR, UH, CONSIDER THE PARCEL IN ITS NATURAL STATE ZONING DESIGNATION OF DONNA THE ROAD, THE NUMBER OF CHILDREN THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE AND THIS TRAINING PROPOSAL WILL WORSEN NO RE THE OPPOSITION. LUIS GARCIA WALL, WAL NESS, ROAD AVENUE COMMERCIAL AND [04:05:08] SCENARIO ROAD. SAN ANTONIO. VEHICLE ON, UH, LUIS GARCIA. THIS FROM IS THE INTER TRAFFIC VERY CLOSES THESAL RESIDE LOS ES AND CHERRY PROJECT QUESTION. CARSON MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT. EL EL [04:11:18] HORRENDOUS. AND, UH, RON KELLY. AND, UM, TRAFFIC SIGNIFICANT PANORAMA. A SOLUTION REMAINS FAR AWAY. THE ROAD IS ABOUT TO BE AFFECTED BY THE MAGNITUDE. CHANGES TO THE ROAD WILL MAKE THEM UNCAPABLE. SANDY ROGERS DO NOT FOR AWARD. NO SOLO. GREG? UH, OAK THE NOISE. E NOT TO MENTION LOSS. SEEN MEN FOR WHAT? WILDLIFE MAYBE LEFT RESIDING IN THAT AREA. [04:15:01] REHABIL. REHABIL. UH, I INVESTIGATOR, UH, INCLUDING MADAM CHAIR. POINT OF ORDER. ? YES MA'AM. CONSTRUCTION. AND JUST TO GIVE THE READER A QUICK BREAK, UM, I'M JUST REALLY TRYING TO FIND A QUESTION. SO SHE THE SAME AMOUNT SHE DOES BEFORE WE HEAD INTO THE NEXT 30. OKAY. THUMBS UP. UP. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN. PLAN. AIR THIS THE ONE MS. FLORES, YOU'LL FINISH YOURS. THE LAST ONE'S ON YOURS. TAKE A BREAK. MS. HERNANDEZ. OKAY. THIS OKAY. THEY HAVE, OKAY. JUST DE VALEZ. T H C [04:21:11] ING JUDY MCMILLAN E B AND THE [04:26:34] ELIZABETH FUR. YES. YES. AND RACHEL'S BRANCH? [04:30:17] I'M PLAYING FOR COMMUNITY. [04:36:15] HEY, JESSE. JEFFREY BLAN. OKAY. OKAY. [04:40:23] OKAY. IT'S MY FIRST SENIOR PER OKAY. COMMISSIONER. [04:45:17] OKAY. OKAY. SUBDIVISION, [04:50:35] ELECTRONIC. OKAY. GRACIA. SO MUCH. OKAY. ES OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. RIGHT NOW YOU'RE SHOWING A SINGULAR ACCESS TO THE SUBDIVISION IN ANTONIO [04:55:21] IS THE, UM, P NO, IT DEPEND. UM, TELLING MEANS, UH, THANK YOU MADAM. WE HAVE NOT TION. AND, [05:01:18] UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GRACIA. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS? QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER? COMMISSIONER GIBBS. COMMISSIONER GIBBS? OKAY. SORRY. MY SCREEN. LUCIAN PAN. OKAY. SO MAYOR, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DISCUSS HERE IS I'M TO, [05:05:19] UM, IN SAN ANTONIO AND WHY IS THERE A DIFFERENCE? DIFFERE, WHY DO YOU A DIFFERENCE? OKAY, SO BASICALLY DIFFERENTIATE. UH, I THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. DO AND, UH, V DOES THE FAMILIAR I [05:10:21] INTO ROMERO. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'LL JUST ASK BOTH THESE QUESTIONS TO SAVE TIME. MF 18. MF 18 IS THE HIGHEST. M I DISCUSS A DIFFERENT THING. OKAY, COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. QUESTIONS? COMM. ALRIGHT, I THINK ALL MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AS WELL. YEAH. UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, SORRY. MS. COMMISSIONER HAVE WATCHED OVER THE LAST RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, POSSIBILITIES THAT SINGLE FAMILY CAME IN THAT, BUT, UH, FAMIS, UH, THE TRIP COUNT WOULD ALMOST BE [05:15:01] THE SAME. UH, AND RESIDENTS, YES. UM, WOULD, WOULD, UM, GOING TO F 18 EMBARGOING, UM, DON'T IMPROVED CONSIDERING THE OPPOSITION, CONSIDERING KIND OF, UM, BELIEF ON INCREASING DENSITY AT THIS MOTION FOR DENIAL ON, ON THIS CASE. MOTION FOR DENIAL. S SECONDERS. COMMISSIONER GIBBS. COMMISSIONER GIBBS, I SUPPORT THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. KNOW THEIR COMMUNITY AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S OKAY TO READ THAT. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE WAS A COMMENT. I DIDN'T. ALRIGHT, I'LL QUIT. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER MCDONALD. COMMISSIONER MC DANIELS. THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE AND I WANNA THANK COURT. [05:20:46] THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. I ROMERO. UH, ROMERO. THANK YOU. GRA I DON'T, I MIGHT BE EMOTIONAL FOR JUST ONE SECOND HERE. IT'S GETTING REALLY HARD FOR ME TO OTHER JOBS. I, I DON'T REALLY AGREE. WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT SOMETHING IN TERMS OF FAMILY. HOME OWNERSHIP IS WHAT, ASIDE FROM THAT BAND. ROMERO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER. AND THE EMOTION IS APPRECIATED. COMMISSIONER LIVED IN THIS AREA. DIRECTOR. PROBABLY [05:25:14] THE C THREE IS THE NEXT, THE RETAIL AND SERVICE BUSINESSES. AND I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE, UM, DEVELOPER COMMISSIONER JONES. MAKE SURE TO HIT UNMUTE. YES. C. COMMISSIONER KAMATH. COMMISSIONER KURTMAN. COMMISSIONER KAMATH. ARE YOU STILL THERE? COMMISSIONER KURTMAN TO HE LEFT EARLIER. HE HAD NO. COMMISSIONER COMM. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? NO. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. YES. C. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. YES. C COMMISSIONER. SIPES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? NO. NO. AND CHAIR MCGEE? NO. NO MOTION FAILS? NO. PA FIVE TO THREE AS YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. UH, YOU HAVE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER CONSIDER. SO IT COMES BACK AND, OKAY. AT THE NEXT ZONING COMMISSION HEARING. LAST CASE FOR UM, THIS EVENING. FICATION. DOES IT, DID ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY CORRECTIONS? I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT MINUTES. I DOES CONSIDERATION JULIO MINUTES. JULIO, OR JULY 2ND. SORRY. , THIS IS CHRISTIE. SO CHRISTY BY THE APPLICANT THAT THE NOTICES THAT WERE READ INTO THE RECORD AT THAT, THE OPPOSITION ACTUALLY HELP ME OUT BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO GET BACK TO THE RIGHT SCREEN AND I CAN OKAY. ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS MINUTES, CORRECT? NO, NO. E FOR THE, UH, AUGUST THE 18TH. OKAY. ALRIGHT. I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MOTION PLEASE. THERE A SECOND. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MOTION. COMMISSIONER [05:30:02] ES? YES. C. COMMISSIONER JONES. COMMISSIONER JONES. C. COMMISSIONER. WE COMMISSIONER? WE C. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. YES. C. COMMISSIONER. GIBBONS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. YES. C. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. C. COMMISSIONER SYKES. COMMISSIONER SSS? YES. C COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. YE YES. IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS REPORT? THANK YOU SO MUCH. WELL EVERYBODY, I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE OF YOU. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR, PRESIDENT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.