* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:22] HERANDEZ FISH. GIBBS GIBBS. HERE. VELASQUEZ VELAZQUEZ. AREOLA. AREOLA. HERE. AKI CARPENTER. CARPENTER AKI. RUDE. BOWMAN. RODMAN. HERE. AKI ZER. HERE. AKI LUTHER AKI. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, WE DO HAVE A BRIEF, UH, GET THE CHAIRMAN SEAT PLEASE. BOARD FUNCTION COMMISSION. IFFERENT DEPART THE APPLICATION HIS ADDITIONAL E AND INTERNET. UM, SO ON THE, WE HAVE CASE LIST BUTTER IN THE STREETSCAPE. WHILE THESE POLES ARE NOT LOCATED IN HISTORIC , OR THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PULP SIGNS THAT WE HAVE SEEN, THESE NEW DESIGNS WILL MAKE FOR LESS CONSISTENCY IN THE STREETSCAPE, LESS RADICALLY [00:05:01] PLACED AMONG EXISTING POLES. POLE DESIGN, THE POLES CARRYING THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF CELLULAR EQUIPMENT, MORE LIKE A CELLULAR UTILITY WITH AN INCIDENTAL STREETLIGHT DESIGNED STREETLIGHT, CELLULAR EQUIPMENT ATTACHED. WE UNDERSTAND THE LAW ALLOWS DOWNTOWN BUILDING ROOFTOPS IS THE PERMIT KNOWN NUMBER. MONICA S AND SNO AND CIN. WILLOW STREET IS THE CHARACTER, TEMPORAL AUGMENTING, HOUSE STYLE, SECURITY, ET CETERA. THE TRENDY WOOD AND WIRE METAL PEN PANEL FENCE, ALSO KNOWN AS A DEER FENCE, HAS BEEN SIMILAR TO THOSE USE HISTORICALLY WITHIN DISTRICT. IN TERMS OF THEIR SCALE, TRANSPARENCY AND CHARACTER IS GUIDELINES. UH, THE FORMER, WE HAVE LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL FRONT DISTRICT OIL, STRESS STREET. JOSEPH GARCIA, [00:10:10] HACKBERRY STREET. OKAY. FERNANDEZ RECOMMEND? [00:16:05] UH, OKAY. [00:21:20] INSPECTOR HERNANDEZ, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU'RE PROPOSING TO, UH, THAT, THAT IS, UH, ALL MY QUESTIONS. I'M SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? NO, I WAS JUST SAYING THAT THAT'S ALL FOR NO. SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS, UH, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT [00:25:57] IO YOU SAYING DISCUSS THAT WITH MR. I, UH, LA DESCRIPTION IN PERSON, [00:30:17] THE CHAIRMAN. THIS IS COMMISSIONER. HAVE A QUESTION FOR PRESIDENT. OKAY. SO I NEED SOME CLARIFICATION HERE IS RECONSTRUCTION, NOT A NEW EDITION. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ONE SUGGESTION ON DEALING WITH WHAT HIS REPLACEMENT, THIS COMMISSIONER, UH, PRESIDENT MAKE AN ATTEMPT RIGHT NOW WITH, UH, APPROVAL OF THE, THE E MOTION SAYS, UH, IT'S COMMISSIONER GIBB. I SECOND COMMISSIONER GIVES, UH, UND SO FOR CLARIFICATION, [00:35:04] OH, NOT APPROVED, CORRECT? NO, NO, THAT IS CORRECT. CORRECT. EIGHT AND 11. SO THAT'S AN AMENDMENT TO YOUR MOTION. CATION CLARIFICATION. OKAY. UM, MR. GIBBS, DO YOU, UM, SECOND THE AMENDED MOTION? SECOND UMD PRESIDENT. MOTION. MOTION? YES. AYE. JEFF, CAN YOU CALL FOR A NAYS NOW? SAY NAY. RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY NAY. MOTION PASSES IS IN WORKER FOOT. TRAFFIC IS A FEW STEPS THAT THEY CAN PEEK INTO THESE LARGE WINDOWS OR OPEN ALL THE MULTIPLE. [00:40:57] THIS IS CHAIRMAN FETZER, UH, SENIOR PRESIDENT AND IS IS A PLANT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ANOTHER QUESTION. UH, THANK [00:45:01] YOU. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BOWMAN BOWMAN TO PROVIDE PHYSICAL BARRIER, YOU KNOW, HARD LINE. THERE'S NOT ANY, UH, WHO'S THE, UH, STOP SHORT OF, OF THE FENCING? THAT KIND OF CHAMPED FACADE. UH, UH, VERY CONSIDER LA CIRCA. WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE WILLING? YOU'RE THE THEY DO ANCE HAVE THERE WHAT YOU WERE ASKING? MAYBE NOT VERY CLEAR MYSELF. NO. LOOK WHAT I WAS WONDERING IF RATHER THAN HAVING THE FENCE, IT TURNED BACK ON EITHER SIDE OF THAT, UH, UH, IS THE FRONT ENTRANCE E GRANDE? SO I MOVE FOR APPROVAL [00:50:02] ONE WITH STAFF STIPULATIONS RUNNING DISCONTINUOUSLY TERMINATING. DO WE HAVE THIS? COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ? I SECOND THAT. COMMISSIONER. UH, COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FAVOR. SO WE HAVE A MOTION. I'M GONNA APPROACH ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE UNMUTE, RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED YE IN OPPOSITION. NO. THANK, THANK YOU. OKAYIS ON MEMENTO. OKAY. YEAH, IT SAYS US IN CALL. AUDIO, [01:04:01] UH, [01:04:01] FOR PREVIOUS, UH, [01:05:13] LET'S SEE. OKAY, C PLUS. OKAY. [01:11:32] UH, ARE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OKAY. FERN, [01:16:03] UH, SIGN. MARY'S CONSTRUCTION ARCHITECTURAL, UH, SENIOR P COMMISSION. [01:20:24] IT INCORPORATED. DUPLEX, UH, ANTONIO [01:27:10] CONSTRUCTION. CORRECT. CHAIRMAN, THIS IS COMMISSIONER. COMMISSIONER GIVES OUR COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER JOY, UH, INTERSECTION. JUST TO DEPOSE THAT BACK TO THE APPLICANT. I'M SORRY YOU WERE THERE ALONE. I ALLOW TO, TO TRY TO BE THERE [01:30:05] TODAY OF THOSE CALCULATIONS. WELL, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK, UH, TO MY CLIENT. PROBABLY START FROM SCRATCH. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BOWMAN. COMMISSIONER BOWMAN, MR. CARPENTER SECOND REVISION. UM, ARE YOU THERE? OKAY, JUST MAKING SURE. MS. BARROW, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THIS, TO THE RECORD? UH, ACCESS CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION [01:35:15] IN YOUR APPROVAL. FOR THE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS I'M READ, UM, WE HAVE FIRST COMES FROM BONGO CONSTRUCTION, ADAM STREET AS A PRO RECOMMEND, UH, K IS PERMIT IS [01:40:27] ONE MOMENT, MOMENT 23 6 0 3 MISSION STREET. PLEASE SUPPORT STAFF. RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDATION, RECORDING. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. UM, I WILL ADD, JUST FOR REFERENCE, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING ABOUT A SEPARATE PROCESS, DIFFERENT PROCESSES. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BOWMAN, UH, COMMISSIONER BOWMAN, UM, ZONING THAT, UH, THERE WAS AN APPLICATION TO [01:45:20] ADDITION ADDITIONAL PHOTOS YOU'RE SEEING LIKELY TAKEN DOWN. OKAY. SO I WOULD SAY, UM, FOR ALLOWABLE, ALLOWABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE PERMIT, WHILE MAYBE THEY JUST NEED TO BRING, BRING IT BACK TO US. WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BASICALLY, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE NOT, THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. COMMISSIONER CARPENTER TO TRY TO PURSUE THE POSSIBILITY THE PERMIT CONSTRUCTION, BUT AS IT IS, I THINK IT'S NOT SUPPORTING THE VISION OF CONSTRUCTION. YES. WHATEVER SMALL PERCENTAGE YOU MAY HAVE. I DON'T THINK IT'S ANYTHING I I ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR MOTIONS? I AM ES COMMENT. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD IF I MAY ANTE. [01:50:16] THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. DO I HAVE A MOTION EITHER FOR DENIAL OR ALL THOSE OPPOSED SAY NAY. MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU. NEXT IS ITEM 20. APPROXIMATE IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 20, THEN THROUGH THE ELTO ELTO SOLICIT. ADDITIONALLY, CON IS SIR RECOMMEND A, I RECOMMEND, UM, CONSTRUCTION. THE, [01:55:43] THAT'S ALL OF OUR, ALL OF OUR THANK YOU. THIS IS CHAIRMAN. WE'VE SEEN A PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ON THIS SITE. MUST PREVIOUS APPLICANT, THIS IS CHAIRMAN FETZER. AGAIN, I, WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION. [02:00:21] CARPENTER KINDIN QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. DID, YOU MIGHT ALLOW IT TO HAVE MORE OF A, I CAN SEE WHERE IT'S VERY CONVENIENT TO BE ABLE TO COME RIGHT OFF THAT ALLEY IN THE PRE THIRD BUILDING, SORRY, THIRD UNIT OFF OF THE HAYWOOD SIDE. AND SO YOU WON'T SEE YOU, YOU NOVA THE, THE SECOND BUILDING BEHIND, UM, MRS. CHAIRMAN FETZER. WE DO HAVE SOME PRESIDENT, UM, COMMENTARIES, UH, THE LAWS COMMISSION OR, AND, UH, FROM THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY, UM, IN 2016. [02:05:20] OKAY. E K SOON UGLY. OKAY, FURTHER QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS OF THIS. UM, I'M LOOKING AT SLIDE. I'M TRYING TO CONFIRM WHICH, YEAH, SO I THINK MY, MY QUESTION, CAN WE GO FARTHER SOUTH FROM THE UH, YEAH, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT DEVELOPMENT ON BRA, BREMAN AND HAYWOOD WAS, UH, THE, IS THE CONFIGURATION, THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. I I CAN PERMIT THAT AND IF THAT IS DONE IN THE GARAGES CAN BE SHIFTED BETWEEN THE, THE TWO. SEE COMMISSIONER AJO, DOES THE APPLICANT UNDERSTAND, UH, HAYWOOD HAYWOOD I COMPONENT [02:11:20] MAKE THE UNITS ION STRUCTURE HAYWOOD? UM, I, I I WOULD SAY THAT SHE PRIMARY, I MEAN THAT SECONDARY STRUCTURE CAN GROW A LITTLE E THE CONCEPTUAL E, THAT SECOND SUGGESTION? YES. I WOULD SECOND THAT IN FAVOR. UM, ALL OPPOSED MOTION PASSES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. UM, ITEM 21, ARE YOU THERE? [02:15:10] NUMBER IS SOLICIT. OKAY. OKAY. IS THIS RICHARD DE LACO AND LA ANTONIO RIVER RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE [02:20:20] L R O H P THERE ARE WINDOWS ENCODED IN THE BACK OUTSIDE, YEAH. FACILITY, BUT WITH THE, WITH RESPECT TO PROVIDING ION CITY IN PARTICULAR. OKAY. RECIPES FOR [02:34:57] FERNANDEZ. [02:36:14] WE [02:36:14] CAN'T SEE HIM. EDWARD, ARE YOU THERE? UM, YEAH. DOSE. OKAY. GOMAN GOVERNMENT. THIS IS COMMISSIONER FERNAND FERNANDEZ STATED BY C. THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER C. THIS IS COMMISSIONER FERNANDEZ FERNANDEZ. WE HAVE A MOTION. RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY AYE. ALL OPPOSED. [02:40:03] MOTION PASSES. THANK PASSES. UH, TRADITIONAL, I HAVE THE APPLICANT. UM, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND UH, GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC CONTEXT. FIRST COMES FROM HELLO, MY NAME IS JOSEPH GARCIA. ENO GARCIA. JOSE GARCIA NUMBER E I, [02:45:21] UM, EL MATERIAL ORIGINAL GARCIA. UH, JOSEPH GARCIA. OKAY, LET'S UNMUTE STEP, UH, ROBERT PERSONAL. YEAH. STEPHANIE, WE READY? C THE CITY COUNCIL. WE DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CALL? ARMSTRONG IN ARMSTRONG IN MESQUITE. A QUESTION FOR STAFF. THE WHAT WERE THE ORIGINALLY APPROVED? SO THIS IS COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. I'M GONNA TACKLE THE EASY ONE FIRST ROOF. AND THEN WHAT IS THE, IS IT JUST [02:50:01] COST SAVINGS? IS THAT THE, UH, NO TRO UM, UM, IN THAT. AND THEN, UH, WE'LL NOTE THAT, UH, THE REASON WE'RE COM PROPOSING THE WINDOWS THAT WE ARE YOU E PERSONNEL INCLUDE FROM THE, JUST LIKE THE HOUSE THAT YOU SEE ON THIS IS COMMISSIONER GIBB, COMMISSIONER GIBBS MATERIAL, EDWARD. [02:55:02] SO WHAT WAS, WHAT ABOUT THE ROOF MATERIAL? SAME THING. BUENO. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BOWMAN. SO COMMISSIONER, I'LL SECOND BB. SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE UNMUTE. ALL OPPOSED. UNMUTE. I THINK WE NEED A ROLL CALL PLEASE. FERNANDEZ, HERANDEZ. NAY. NO. GIBBS. GIBBS. NAYYY. NO. OLA. OLA. AYE. C CARPENTER, CARPENTER. NAY. NO. BOWMAN. AYE. BOWMAN? NO, THAT'S C FLETCHER. NAY. NO UNE NAYYY. NO PERSONNEL. YES. IN REGARDS TO YES, THE APPLICANT HAS NOTED THE INSTALLATION THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED AS WELL AS THANK YOU MRS. CHAIRMAN. AVA, QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. [03:00:05] WHAT WINDOWS WILL BE INSTALLED IN THOSE VENT? THE EXACT THAT YOU'RE IN, IF YOU GO TO PAGE. UH, SO A QUESTION FOR QUESTION FOR STAFF. PERSONAL APPLICATION FOR WINDOWS IS BERRY AND ALL THREE STRUCTURES? THAT'S CORRECT. THERE'S NOT NEW ADDRESSES FOR THE, NO, I ACTUALLY APPLICANT, I'M CONFUSED WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THIS COMMISSIONER THAT THE COMMISSIONERS ALWAYS FEEL PUSHED INTO THE WHOLE WINDOW THING HAS GOTTEN, WE'RE REFERENCED TO GO CHECK OUT THE HOUSE AROUND THE CORNER TO SEE CONSTRUCTION. [03:05:10] I'M JUST REALLY AT WITH, IN WITH A LOT OF THE STUFF. UH, BECAUSE IT'S HERE, IT'S LIKE MATCHED HIM EXACTLY. AND OF WHAT'S ALREADY CONGRUENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S NOT, WE CAN'T PROCEED. I RESPECT THIS IS COMMISSIONER BOWMAN. I'VE QUESTION JUST COMMISSIONER. UM, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME GOING THROUGH, THROUGH IT. SO, AND LIKE HOW IMPORTANT THESE WINDOWS WERE. SO THAT'S WHY ANYTHING IN FRONT OF THE, THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO RESOLVE IT. THE ACTUAL STIPULATIONS FERNANDEZ, UM, UM, IN THOSE PICTURES. NO, I KNOW THAT PHOTOGRAPH [03:10:47] STEP COMMISSIONER GIVENS COMMENTS HERE. UH, UM, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. [03:15:10] THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S WHY I WAS TRYING TO REFER TO FOUR. UM, I'M CLEAR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? IF NOT, SO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. UM, SORRY. CARPENTER. UN UM, WE HAVE A MOTION SECOND. YOU MIND THROWING A YEAR ON THAT'S THIS NEW MOTION? ARE WE I DO DIFFERENT, UH, I THINK TO CLARIFY FOR SOLICIT 20 YEAR OR BETTER WARRANTY FLEXIBILITY THAT I'M CONFUSED. [03:20:29] I UNDERSTAND. SO WE DO HAVE, YES, I'M SORRY. UH, PER, PER PARA SENIOR GIVES CARPENTER GIVES, UM, THE DE ALL OPPOSED? NO, I THINK THAT WAS CLEARLY FIVE TO TWO. THANK YOU. UM, SO NOTE FOR THE RECORD, ITEMS 24, UH, UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN, UM, STEPHANIE, WE'RE GOING TO UNMUTE YOU, BUT YOU MIGHT NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT. THAT'S NOT GOOD. IF YOU CAN PUT INTO THE CHAT, UM, THE APPLICANT'S PHONE NUMBER, WE CAN HAVE SOMEBODY ELSE CALL THEM. UM, LET'S TRY AND MUTING AGAIN. ALL RIGHT, GIVE US UH, A COUPLE MINUTES TO FIGURE THIS OUT. RACHEL, [03:27:01] COMMENT ON THATCH, MISMO CARPENTER, [03:37:22] FERNAND. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.