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          AGENDA, UH, TIME IS 2:05 PM ON THIS WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2020. 
          GO AHEAD AND CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. 
          MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU READ THE ROLE? COUNCIL MEMBER TRINO? HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROJA GARCIA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          UM, I'M PRESENT. 
          TINA, CAN I GET A MIC CHECK, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. 
          WE HEAR YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAB HDA HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ELA HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. 
          AND MAYOR NUREMBERG. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          ALRIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. 
          WE HAVE, UH, TWO PRESENTATIONS TODAY THAT WE'LL DO, UH, CONSECUTIVELY. 
          UH, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO OUR CONVERSATION. 
          LEMME TURN IT OVER TO STATE MANAGER ERIC WALSH. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO, YES, WE HAVE, UH, TWO PRESENTATIONS THIS AFTERNOON. 
          UM, 
          [1. 20-5607 Briefing on the selection process for the SA Climate Ready AdvisoryCommittees and the recommended candidates. [David McCary, Assistant City Manager; Douglas Melnick, Chief Sustainability Officer]]
THE FIRST IS AN UPDATE ON ON THE, UM, FROM, UH, CHIEF SUSTAINABILITY OFFICER DOUG MELNICK. 
          UH, AND HE'LL UPDATE YOU ON THE PROCESS AND STATUS OF THE RECRUITMENT OF, UH, OF OUR TWO NEW ADVISORY COMMITTEES THAT ARE BEING FORMED, UH, AS A RESULT OF LAST YEAR'S ADOPTION OF THE SA CLIMATE RADIO ACTION  PLAN. 
          UH, THE COMMITTEES, JUST A REMINDER, ARE, UH, BOTH THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS WELL AS THE CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          AND THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE BY THE STAFF AS WELL AS THE, UM, COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE. 
          THE OBJECTIVES OF THE TWO COMMITTEES ARE, UH, TO ENSURE THAT THE COMMUNITY AND KEY STAKEHOLDERS CAN PROVIDE, UH, INPUT TO YOU, UM, DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION AND REVIEW OF THE CAP. 
          SO DOUG WILL WALK THROUGH, UM, UH, ENOUGH UPDATE. 
          THERE ARE SOME STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT OCCURRED AT THE LAST CHECK COMMITTEE, AND SO WE'LL SHARE THAT WITH YOU. 
          AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM IS, UH, A BRIEFING ON, UM, A COMPETITIVE SEAL PRO PROPOSAL PROCESS FOR OUR SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM. 
          UM, AND, AND THE, UH, THROUGH A GRANT WITH THE, WITH ACOG, UM, AND, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO FUNDS, UM, UH, HUMAN SERVICES DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES HAS OPERATED THAT PROGRAM SINCE, UH, THE EARLY SEVENTIES. 
          AND, UM, MELODY AND TROY WILL WALK THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS OF THAT, UH, CONTRACT, WHICH WILL, WHICH IS PREPARED. 
          IT HAS GONE THROUGH THE AUDIT CONTRACT COMMITTEE, UH, WITH COUNCILMAN COURAGE AND THE GROUP, AND WE ARE PREPARED TO BRING THAT FORWARD TO, UH, COUNCIL. 
          AND I WANTED, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE, UH, AT LEAST SOME OF THE ISSUES, UH, THE PROPOSAL WITH YOU, UM, AND THE PROCESS IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE OF IT BEING ON OUR A SESSION. 
          SO, UM, TWO LIGHT ITEMS. I'M GOING TO KICK IT OVER TO DOUG TO KICK US OFF. 
          DOUG. 
          THANK YOU, ERIC. 
          UH, JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, SO, UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND AND COUNCIL, AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THE SELECTION PROCESS AND RECOMMENDED CANDIDATES FOR THE SA CLIMATE READY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          I'D LIKE TO BEGIN WITH SOME BACKGROUND ON SAN ANTONIO'S CLIMATE WORK. 
          UH, BACK ON JUNE 22ND, 2017, CITY COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE PARIS CLIMATE AGREEMENT, UH, AND THEREBY DIRECTED STAFF TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO HELP SAN ANTONIO MEET THE OBJECTIVES OF THAT AGREEMENT. 
          AND ON OCTOBER 17TH, 2019, CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE SA CLIMATE READY CLIMATE ACTION AND ADAPTATION PLAN, OR THE CAP. 
          UH, I'D JUST LIKE TO BRIEFLY POINT OUT THAT SINCE THE ADOPTION OF, OF THIS, THIS PLAN, UH, WHICH MADE SAN ANTONIO ONLY THE SECOND CITY IN TEXAS BEHIND AUSTIN TO HAVE A PLAN, UH, BOTH HOUSTON AND DALLAS HAVE ADOPTED SIMILAR KINDS WITH SIMILAR GOALS AND, AND STRATEGIES TO EFFECTIVELY IMPLEMENT THE CAP, UH, AND TO ALLOW FOR STAKEHOLDER INPUT. 
          THE PLAN CALLS FOR THE CREATION OF TWO EXTERNALLY, CR UH, RECRUITED COMMITTEES. 
          UH, AS ERIC MENTIONED, THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THE COMMITTEE STRUCTURE AND PROCESS FOR CREATION OF THESE TWO COMMITTEES WAS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL ORDINANCE ON DECEMBER 12TH, 2019. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          BEFORE DISCUSSING COMMITTEE SPECIFICS, I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT ON THE CURRENT STATUS OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          UH, FOR MANY YEARS, WE ALWAYS TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE AS SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE FUTURE. 
          UH, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THAT IS NO LONGER THE CASE, AND WE ARE EXPERIENCING CLIMATE IMPACTS NOW. 
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THIS PAST JULY WAS ONE OF OUR HOTTEST MONTHS ON RECORD WITH 14 DAYS OVER A HUNDRED DEGREES, FOUR DAYS WITH RECORD BREAKING TEMPERATURES AND A MONTHLY AVERAGE HIGH THAT WAS FIVE DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE. 
          THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE TRENDS THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING OVER THE DECADES, AND THAT IS PROJECTED TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE END OF THIS CENTURY. 
          WE'VE ALSO SEEN RECORD BREAKING FOREST FIRES IN CALIFORNIA AND THE NORTHWEST THAT NO, NOT ONLY HAVE DIRECT IMPACT ON THOSE COMMUNITIES, BUT THAT ALSO SPREADS SMOKE AND PARTICULATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. 
          NOT ONLY IS SAN ANTONIO AT RISK FROM THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF THIS WILDFIRE SMOKE, BUT WE HAVE OUR OWN WILDFIRE RISK IN AREAS WHERE OUR URBAN COMMUNITIES INTERFACE WITH OUR WILDLANDS. 
          FINALLY, SAN ANTONIO IS VULNERABLE TO THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT IMPACTS OF HURRICANES AND TROPICAL STORMS IN THE GULF. 
          AND THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION PREDICTED AN ABOVE AVERAGE, UH, STORM SEASON IN 2020, PREDOMINANTLY FUELED BY CLIMATE CHANGE. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THAT PREDICTION WAS CORRECT AS THERE HAVE BEEN 23 NAMED STORMS, INCLUDING EIGHT HURRICANES IN THE ATLANTIC THROUGH SEPTEMBER 21ST. 
          AND THE HURRICANE SEASON DOES NOT TYPICALLY END UNTIL NOVEMBER. 
          SO THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL STORMS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          WHILE IT IS CLEAR THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS NOT ONLY CONTINUING BUT ACCELERATING, IT IS IMPORTANT TO PLACE IT IN CONTEXT WITH CURRENT COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL PRIORITIES. 
          THE GOALS OF SA CLIMATE READY ARE AT THE INTERSECTION OF EQUITY, OUR ENVIRONMENT, AND OUR ECONOMY. 
          AS SUCH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT CAP CAN PLAY A KEY ROLE IN RESPONSE TO COVID 19, THE ECONOMIC RECESSION, AND ADDRESSING SYSTEMIC RACISM. 
          SPECIFICALLY, SA CLIMATE READY FOCUSES ON REDUCING EMISSIONS AND IMPROVING AIR QUALITY AND PUBLIC HEALTH OUTCOMES, REDUCING UNNECESSARY ENERGY CONSUMPTION, LOWERING ENERGY BILLS, AND SAVING MONEY FOR RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND INSTITUTIONS, PROMOTING EQUITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL AND CLIMATE JUSTICE, INCREASING ECONOMIC COMPETITIVENESS AND ACCESS TO GREEN JOB OPPORTUNITIES, AND BUILDING OVERALL COMMUNITY RESILIENCE. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE CAN NOT ONLY LEVERAGE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAP WITH THESE CURRENT PRIORITIES, BUT THAT THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ENSURE THAT ACTIVITIES CURRENTLY UNDERWAY IN RESPONSE TO THESE ISSUES CAN ALSO REINFORCE OUR CLIMATE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE COUNCIL APPROVED AN ORDINANCE CREATING THESE TWO ADVISORY COMMITTEES. 
          THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS 15 AT LARGE MEMBERS, FIVE ORGANIZATIONAL MEMBERS WHO ARE C P S ENERGY, JOINT BASED SAN ANTONIO, THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, SAS N V, AS WELL AS THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR OF THE CLIMATE EQUITY COMMITTEE. 
          IT'S DESIGNED TO PROVIDE EXPERTISE, DIVERSE PERSPECTIVES AND INPUT REGARDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAP. 
          AS THE CITY WORKS TO ACHIEVE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION AND CLIMATE ADAPTATION GOALS, ITS MISSION IS TO ADVISE CITY STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL ON THE ADVANCEMENT AND EQUITY CENTERED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. 
          SPECIFIC TASKS INCLUDE ADVISING STAFF AND CITY COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND SOME STAKEHOLDERS AND HELPING PROMOTE AND ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY ON CAP ACTIVITIES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL ORDINANCE HAS 10 AT LARGE REPRESENTATIVES FROM COMMUNITY-BASED ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS REPRESENTING THE INTEREST OF LOW INCOME POPULATIONS, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, AND MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS, AS WELL AS THE CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR OF THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          THE COMMITTEE'S MISSION IS TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAP TO ENSURE AN EQUITY CENTERED APPROACH AND EQUITABLE OUTCOMES. 
          SPECIFIC TASKS INCLUDE BRINGING DIVERSE STAKEHOLDER OPINIONS TO THE TABLE WITH A SPECIFIC FOCUS ON MARGINALIZED AND VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES, ENSURING CLIMATE EQUITY CONSIDERATIONS ARE BROUGHT FORTH IN ALL ACTIONS AND PRIORITIES, AND IDENTIFYING, TRACKING AND REPORTING CLIMATE CLIMATE EQUITY METRICS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          . 
          APPLICATIONS FOR BOTH COMMITTEES WERE DEVELOPED IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH, AND WERE RELEASED ON JANUARY 21ST. 
          2020. 
          A PROMOTION INCLUDED POSTS ON ALL SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, EMAILS TO THE ENTIRE OFFICE, OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY DATABASE, TARGETED CORRESPONDENCE TO KEY STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING PARTNER INSTITUTIONS, BUSINESSES, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, AND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, COLLABORATIONS WITH CITY COUNCIL OFFICES AND STORIES VIA, UH, LOCAL NEWS OUTLETS. 
          AND AS A RESULT, 107 APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED FOR THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AND 72 APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED FOR THE CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          A SELECTION COMMITTEE WAS LED BY A CHECK SUBCOMMITTEE COMPRISED OF COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL AND COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN, UH, WHICH WAS ALSO SUPPORTED AND ADVISED BY THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND THE OFFICE OF SUSTAINABILITY. 
          AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO, TO BRIEFLY THANK THE COUNCILWOMAN FOR THEIR COUNTLESS HOURS, UH, IN, IN, IN, UM, HELPING REVIEW AND, AND INTERVIEW, UM, THESE CANDIDATES, UM, AND, AND REALLY ENSURE A ROBUST PROCESS AS WELL AS MY STAFF. 
          AND JONATHAN MELONE FROM THE OFFICE OF EQUITY, WHO REALLY, UM, PROVIDED TREMENDOUS INSIGHT. 
          IN FEBRUARY, 2020, ALL APPLICATIONS WERE REVIEWED BY THE SELECTION COMMITTEE IN ORDER TO DEVELOP AN INTERVIEW LIST. 
          BETWEEN 
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JUNE AND AUGUST, 2023, ROUNDS OF VIRTUAL INTERVIEWS WERE CONDUCTED FOR A TOTAL OF 60 INTERVIEWS COMPLETED OVERALL. 
          FINALLY, AS EQUITY IS A KEY FRAMEWORK OF THE SA CLIMATE READY PLAN, EQUITY ASSESSMENTS WERE CONDUCTED IN COORDINATION WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROCESS FROM THE INITIAL APPLICATION DESIGN AND PROMOTION, DEVELOPING THE INTERVIEW QUESTIONS AND FINALLY, CANDIDATE SELECTION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, WHY IS, UH, EQUITY SO IMPORTANT IN CLIMATE ACTION? UH, THE ESSAY CLIMATE READY PLAN STATES AND I QUOTE, AS A CLIMATE EQUITY FRAMEWORK ESSAY, CLIMATE READY PRIORITIZES THE COMMUNITY'S BURDEN THE MOST BY CLIMATE CHANGE, THOSE THAT CONTRIBUTE THE LEAST TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND THOSE MOST SOCIALLY VULNERABLE TO IT CLIMATE EQUITY ENSURES THAT THESE COMMUNITIES PLAY A CENTRAL ROLE IN THE JUST TRANSFORMATION OF THE SYSTEMS THAT HAVE ESTABLISHED AND CONTINUE TO PERPETUATE THE UNEQUAL BURDEN OF CLIMATE IMPACT. 
          AS A RESULT, IT IS ESSENTIAL THAT THOSE MOST IMPACTED BY CLIMATE CHANGE HAVE A VOICE IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAP. 
          THEREFORE, WE CONDUCTED A THOROUGH EQUITY ANALYSIS AND COORDINATION WITH THE OFFICE OF EQUITY THROUGHOUT THE REVIEW, INTERVIEW AND SELECTION PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT THE RESULTING COMMITTEES HAVE THE MOST DIVERSE REPRESENTATION POSSIBLE WHILE MAINTAINING THE NEEDED TECHNICAL EXPERTISE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY WALK THROUGH, UM, FIRST THE, THE RECOMMENDED CANDIDATES. 
          FOR THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WE HAVE DD BEL MARITZ FROM PUBLIC CITIZENS, ASHLEY BIRD FROM THE TEXAS BUTTERFLY RANCH, J Z COOPER JR. 
          FROM PROJECT QUEST, ESTELLA, COTA TREVINO FROM FREEA NICHOLS, MATT COX FROM KIMBERLY HORNAN ASSOCIATES, AS WELL AS THE REAL ESTATE COUNCIL OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          DR. 
          NEIL DEBA FROM U P S A, ASHLEY HARRIS FROM U S A A, STEVEN LUCKY FROM, UH, OPIA, UH, INC. 
          DR. 
          KELLY LYONS FROM TRINITY UNIVERSITY, FRANCISCO MANAN FROM CREDIT HUMAN. 
          RICHARD MCDONALD FROM H E B DR. 
          JIMMY PERKINS, A RETIRED DEAN, UH, SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH AT UT HEALTH. 
          UH, JOHN TESIA FROM SPURS SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT, ROSALINDA SAN FROM C H GUNTHER AND SON AND RICHARD WEBER FROM WORLD RESOURCES INSTITUTE. 
          IN TERMS OF OUR ORGANIZATIONAL PARTNERS, WE HAVE MELISSA BRYANT FROM THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, KAREN GOOSE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM, KATHLEEN HORNE FROM VIA MARVIN PEAR FROM JOINT BASE SAN ANTONIO AND ANGELA RODRIGUEZ FROM C P S ENERGY. 
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          OUR RECOMMENDED CANDIDATES FOR THE CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE ARE AARON AR ARGUE, GUO FROM MO TEXAS, DR. 
          AITA CANTU FROM UT HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER, SAN ANTONIO UA GARCIA FROM SOUTHWEST WORKERS UNION. 
          JESUS GARCIA GONZALEZ FROM CATHOLIC CHARITIES EO COER FROM, UH, WHO'S A LOCAL ENVIRONMENTAL ATTORNEY, DEANNA LOPEZ. 
          LOPEZ PEREZ FROM CENTRO PORTIA LUISA PORTEO MORTIS FROM THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL. 
          JOSHUA SCOTT FROM ST. 
          PHILIPS COLLEGE. 
          DR. 
          JOSEPH SIMPSON FROM TEXAS A AND M UNIVERSITY SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND TRISTAN TOVAR FROM SAN ANTONIO HOUSING AUTHORITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AFTER FINALIZING THE RECOMMENDED SELECTION STAFF DETERMINES THAT THERE IS, UH, THE NEED FOR REPRESENTATION ON THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR THE ENERGY AND AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRIES. 
          THESE TWO SECTORS ARE PARTICULAR IMPORTANCE AS THEY RELATE TO THE SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION OF THE CAP. 
          BECAUSE SAN ANTONIO'S GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS ARE PREDOMINANTLY FROM THE ENERGY USE IN OUR COMMUNITIES BUILDINGS, AS WELL AS FUEL USE IN OUR TRANSPORTATION SECTOR, PREDOMINANTLY MADE UP OF AUTOMOBILES AND LIGHT TRUCKS. 
          THEREFORE, STAFF RECOMMENDS AMENDING AMENDING ORDINANCE 2019 DASH 12 DASH 12 DASH 10 66 TO ADD TWO REPRESENTATIVES, UH, ONE FROM THE ENERGY INDUSTRY AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. 
          IN ADDITION, STAFF RECOMMENDS ADDING A DEDICATED SEAT FOR SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE AS A RESEARCH PARTNER DUE TO THEIR EXPERTISE IN SCIENCE-BASED RESEARCH AND BOTH ENERGY AND TRANSPORTATION TECHNOLOGIES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          FINALLY, IN TERMS OF NEXT STEPS, STAFF PROPOSES COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT NEXT NEXT WEEK'S AID SESSION TO APPROVE AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT ALLOWING FOR THE ADDITION OF THESE THREE ADDITIONAL SLOTS FOLLOWING APPROVAL, WE WILL FORMALLY RECRUIT FOR APPLICANTS FROM THESE SECTORS, AND THE CHECK SUBCOMMITTEE WILL SELECT CANDIDATES, UH, FOR INTERVIEWS. 
          I MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CHECK WITH THE GOAL OF FULL COUNCIL APPROVAL, UH, OF THE FULL SLATE OF CANDIDATES BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH. 
          IN NOVEMBER, APPROVED CANDIDATES WILL RECEIVE WEB-BASED ORIENTATION TRAINING, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, RACIAL EQUITY TRAINING. 
          AND THE FIRST QUARTERLY MEETING OF THE ADVISORY COMMITTEES WILL BEGIN THIS NOVEMBER. 
          AND WITH THAT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER, UH, THE NEXT PRESENTATION. 
          YEAH, WE'LL TRANSITION MAYOR IAN TO, TO MEL AT THIS POINT. 
          SO I'LL BRING UP THE SECOND PRESENTATION HERE BRIEFLY. 
          UM, SO WE'LL MOVE TO THAT SECOND PRESENTATION, 
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MEL? YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO GOOD. 
          A MEL AND TROY, THE FLOOR IS YOURS. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD. 
          YES, MA'AM. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, 
          [2. 20-5777 Briefing on the procurement for meal preparation services for the
Senior Nutrition Program supported by the Department of Human Services. [Dr. Colleen Bridger, Assistant City Manager; Melody Woosley, Director, Human Services]]
MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          I'LL BEGIN THE BRIEFING WITH BACKGROUND ON THE SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM, PROVIDE A BRIEFING ON THE COMPETITIVE SOLICITATION FOR MEAL PREP PREPARATION, AND THEN TROY ELLIOTT WILL CLOSE WITH THE, UH, BRIEFING ON FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND CITY AUDITOR'S DUE DILIGENCE. 
          BOTH TROY AND I, OF COURSE, WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROGRAM ON THE, OR THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION. 
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          SO, THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES HAS OPERATED THE SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM SINCE 19 73, 47 YEARS. 
          THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH AND WELLBEING OF OLDER ADULTS AND DELAY THE ONSET OF ADVERSE HEALTH CONDITIONS RESULTING FROM POOR NUTRITION AND SEDENTARY LIFESTYLE BY PROVIDING BOTH NUTRITIOUS MEALS AND NUTRITION EDUCATION, REDUCING HUNGER, FOOD INSECURITY, AND MALNUTRITION, PROMOTING SOCIALIZATION AND ISOL, AND REDUCING ISOLATION, AND PROVIDING ACCESS TO DISEASE PREVENTION AND HEALTH PROMOTION SERVICES. 
          HUMAN SERVICES PROVIDES APPROXIMATELY 700 MEALS ANNUALLY IN A CONGREGATE SETTING, UH, PRE COVID. 
          THE MEALS ARE PROVIDED FREE OF CHARGE TO OLDER ADULTS, AGES 60 AND OVER, AND THEIR SPOUSES, AS WELL AS IF THEY HAVE DISABLED CHILDREN WHO RESIDE IN THEIR HOME. 
          THE PROGRAM IS FUNDED THROUGH FEDERAL OLDER AMERICANS ACT GRANT FUNDS, WHICH FLOW THROUGH THE STATE'S DEPARTMENT OF AGING AND DISABILITY SERVICES TO THE ALAMO AREA COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AND THEN TO THE CITY. 
          AND SO THE CITY ALSO INVESTS SIGNIFICANT GENERAL FUND SUPPORT FOR THIS PROGRAM. 
          THE MEALS AND SERVICES MUST MEET STRICT FEDERAL NUTRITION AND ELIGIBILITY GUIDELINES, UM, INCLUDING PROVIDING ONE THIRD OF THE DAILY NUTRITIONAL REQUIREMENTS FOR SENIORS AND LIMITING SODIUM INTAKE AS EXAMPLES AS THE FUNDS FLOW FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO THE STATE AND TO, AND THEN TO ACOG. 
          THEY PICK UP ADDITIONAL STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT D H SS MUST COMPLY WITH AND MONITOR. 
          AND OF COURSE, WE MUST MEET ALL LOCAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOOD HANDLING AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          AND SO, FOR ALMOST 20 YEARS, HUMAN SERVICES HAS CONTRACTED THE MEAL PREPARATION AND DELIVERY SERVICES PORTION OF THE PROGRAM TO AN OUTSIDE VENDOR. 
          THE LAST COMPETITIVE PROCESS BEGAN IN JANUARY OF 2015, AND THE CONTRACT WITH OUR CURRENT VENDOR, RI RICO SERVICES, WAS ORIGINALLY SET TO EXPIRE, UH, TODAY, ACTUALLY SEPTEMBER 30TH, DUE TO C OVID 19. 
          WE EXERCISED A TEMPORARY EXTENSION OF THIS AGREEMENT AGREEMENT THROUGH DECEMBER 20TH OF THIS YEAR TO ENSURE THE SENIOR MEAL SERVICE IS NOT INTERRUPTED. 
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          AND SO, THE TIMELINE FOR THE REQUEST FOR COMPETITIVE SEAL PROPOSALS BEGAN ON DECEMBER 17TH, LAST YEAR, 2019, WITH A PRES SOLICITATION BRIEFING TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION. 
          THE SOLICITATION WAS RELEASED ON DECEMBER 20TH, AND THE PROPOSALS WERE DUE BACK TO THE CITY ON FEBRUARY 10TH, 2020. 
          SO, C OVID 19 DID DELAY THE EVALUATION PROCESS AS WELL, UH, TO AUGUST 21ST OF THIS YEAR. 
          A BRIEFING ON THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS WAS PROVIDED TO THE AUDIT AND ACCOUNTABILITY COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020. 
          AND THIS ITEM IS SCHEDULED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION CURRENTLY ON AUGUST THE EIGHTH WITH A PROPOSED CONTRACT START DATE OF JANUARY THE FIRST 2021. 
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          THREE PROPOSALS WERE FORWARDED FOR REVIEW, AND ONE PROPOSAL WAS DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE FOR FAILURE TO MEET S BETA SUBCONTRACTING REQUIREMENTS. 
          THE THREE PROPOSALS EVALUATED WERE SUBMITTED BY MEALS ON WHEELS OF SAN ANTONIO RI RICO SERVICES, AND SAN ANTONIO FOOD BANK. 
          MEALS ON WHEELS IS A LOCAL NONPROFIT FOR 42 YEARS. 
          THEY'VE DELIVERED MEALS TO HOME BOUND SENIORS AND PROVIDED MEAL PREPARATION AND DELIVERY SERVICES TO SENIOR CENTERS IN BAYER, ATASCOSA, AND COUNTIES. 
          RICO SERVICES IS SERVED AS HUMAN SERVICES MEAL PREPARATION AND DELIVERY SERVICES VENDOR SINCE 2004. 
          THEY ALSO SERVE AS A MEAL PROGRAM PROVIDER TO THE CITIES OF PHOENIX AND EL PASO. 
          A SAN ANTONIO FOOD BANK HAS PROVIDED MEALS TO THE HAVEN FOR HOPE CAMPUS SINCE 2010, AND IS THE CURRENT MEAL PROVIDER FOR PRE-K FOR SA. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT ASSISTED, UH, HUMAN SERVICES WITH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, ENSURING COMPLIANCE WITH CITY PROCUREMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. 
          EVALUATION OF EACH PROPOSAL WAS A RESPONSE WAS BASED ON A TOTAL OF A 
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HUNDRED POINTS, 25 POINTS FOR EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS, WHICH INCLUDES THE HISTORY OF PROVIDING SIMILAR SERVICES, QUALITY OF REFERENCES, AND PAST PERFORMANCE ON CITY AND OTHER CONTRACTS. 
          40 POINTS FOR THE PROPOSED PLAN AND TASTE TESTS, WHICH INCLUDES PLANS TO ENSURE NUTRITIONAL AND FOOD SAFETY REQUIREMENTS ARE MET. 
          SENIOR INPUT IS INCORPORATED AND QUALITY OF THE TASTE TEST. 
          THERE WERE 15 POINTS FOR PRICING AND 20 POINTS FOR VEDA AS THE LOCAL PREFERENCE AND VETERAN-OWNED PROGRAMS WERE NOT APPLICABLE TO THIS SOLICITATION. 
          AS PART OF THE EVALUATION, A SCORING PANELIST AND FINANCE STAFF ALSO CONDUCTED SITE VISIT INSPECTION, UM, ON AUGUST THE 19TH TO EACH OF THE RESPONDENT'S KITCHENS AND FACILITIES TO VIEW THEIR OPERATIONS AND, AND KITCHEN, UH, SETUP. 
          THE FULL EVALUATION COMMITTEE MET ON AUGUST THE 21ST TO CONDUCT INTERVIEWS, TASTE TESTS, AND COMPLETE THE SCORING PROCESS. 
          THE TASTE TEST ALLOWED RESPONDENTS TO PROVIDE TWO HOT MEALS EACH BASED ON A MENU DESIGNATED BY HUMAN SERVICES THAT IS INCLUDED IN, UH, REGULAR SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM MENUS. 
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          WE PUT TOGETHER A STRONG AND DIVERSE EVALUATION PANEL MADE UP OF TWO OUTSIDE REPRESENTATIVES. 
          BETTY ECKARD, A MEMBER OF THE CITY COUNTY JOINT COMMISSION ON ELDERLY AFFAIRS AND ATTENDANT, AND A, AND AN ATTENDEE AT KENWOOD SENIOR CENTER NUTRITION SITE, AND JAVIER COVA RUBIUS, A PARTICIPANT AND PROGRAM VOLUNTEER AT THE CORTES SENIOR CENTER, AS WELL AS MYSELF, JESSICA DOLINA, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, A SENIOR SERVICES PROGRAM MANAGER, OUR REGISTERED DIETICIAN AND METRO HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S NUTRITIONIST, AS WELL AS PARKS AND RECREATION SUMMER YOUTH PROGRAM STAFF. 
          THERE WAS STRONG ALIGNMENT ACROSS THE, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE ON EXPERIENCED BACKGROUND QUALIFICATION AND PROPOSED PLAN AND TASTE TEST SCORES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          BASED ON THE TOTAL SCORES, WHICH INCLUDED THE WRITTEN PROPOSAL AND TASTE TEST, PRICING, AND SUB BETA POINTS, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE RANKED MEALS ON WHEELS FIRST WITH 70.34 POINTS OUT OF A HUNDRED CELL RICO SERVICES. 
          SECOND WAS 67.39 POINTS AND THE SAN ANTONIO FOOD BANK. 
          THIRD. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          HUMAN SERVICES IS RECOMMENDING AWARD OF THE CONTRACT TO MEALS ON WHEELS. 
          THE EVALUATION PANEL FOUND THAT MEALS ON WHEELS HAS EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS AND THE QUALIFICATIONS AND CAPACITY TO OPERATE THE PROGRAM. 
          THEIR PROPOSED PLAN WAS THE HIGHEST RATED, INCLUDING AN IN-DEPTH INTERNAL COMPLIANCE MONITORING PLAN, STRONG AND STRONG TASTE TEST AND INTERVIEW. 
          THEY ARTICULATED A, A VERY DEEP UNDERSTANDING OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PROGRAM AS WELL AS THE CONDITION AND NEEDS OF OLDER ADULTS, AND WE ARE CONFIDENT IN THEIR CAPACITY TO SUCCESSFULLY IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM. 
          UH, MEALS ON WHEELS CURRENTLY PREPARES AND DELIVERS 3,400 SENIOR MEALS DAILY. 
          THEIR CURRENT KITCHEN HAS THE CAPACITY TO PRODUCE 10,000 MEALS PER SHIFT, AND THEY WILL MOVE TO A LARGER NEW KITCHEN IN MARCH OF 2021 WITH THE CAPACITY TO SERVE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE MEALS PER SHIFT. 
          UM, THEIR STAFF THAT OUR STAFF AND PANELISTS WHO VISITED THEIR CURRENT KITCHEN INDICATED IT WAS PRISTINE. 
          PRIOR TO SUBMITTING THEIR APPLICATION, THEY HAD EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS WITH FOOD AND PACKAGING SUPPLIERS TO CONFIRM THAT, UH, THESE SUPPLIERS COULD MEET INCREASED DEMAND SHOULD THEY BE AWARDED THE CONTRACT. 
          THEY ALSO HAVE IDENTIFIED VEHICLES AND A PLAN TO PROCURE THEM WITHOUT THE, WITHIN THE IDENTIFIED TIMELINE AND IDENTIFIED DETAILED STAFF HIRING, TRAINING, AND ONBOARDING PLANS. 
          MEALS ON WHEELS WILL ALSO BRING NEW RESOURCES TO THE PROGRAM, INCLUDING ALZHEIMER'S, UH, DEMENTIA TRAINING, CAREGIVER RESOURCES, AND HELP WITH PROVIDING SEAMLESS TRANSITION FOR SENIORS TO HOME BOUND SERVICES WHEN IT BECOMES NECESSARY. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          RI RICO SERVICES RANKED SECOND BY THE EVALUATION, UH, COMMITTEE HAS SERVED AS OUR MEAL PROVIDER SINCE 2004. 
          THE EVALUATION PANEL RATED THEIR PROGRAM PLAN AND MEAL TASTE TEST AS THE LOWEST IN THEIR INTERVIEW. 
          THEIR RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS ABOUT NUTRITION PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS, QUALITY CONTROL PLAN, AND INCORPORATING SENIOR INPUT INTO MEAL PLANNING WAS WEAK. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE EVALUATION PANELS SCORED FOR EXPERIENCE SCORE FOR, UM, EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATIONS, AND BACKGROUND REFLECTED ONGOING CONTRACT CONCERNS AND NON-COMPLIANCES WITH RI RICO. 
          THE HUMAN SERVICES HAS DOCUMENTED SINCE 2019 REGARDING HIGH TURNOVER OF KEY STAFF WITH SEVEN DIFFERENT PROJECT MANAGERS OR INTERIM 
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MANAGERS, AND FOUR DIETICIANS SINCE 2017. 
          FAILURE TO CONSISTENTLY MEET FEDERAL MEAL NUTRITION REQUIREMENTS FOR HOT AND SHELF STABLE MEALS, CONCERNS WITH DEVIATION FROM APPROVED MENUS AND UNAPPROVED MENU SUBSTITUTIONS, MEAL DELIVERY ISSUES, INCLUDING MEALS THAT ARE BURNT, NOT AT APPROPRIATE TEMPERATURE MISSING COMPONENTS AND DELIVERED LATE. 
          AND THEN LACK OF TIMELY RESPONSE TO D H S REGARDING CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS. 
          UNCORRECTED COMPLIANCE ISSUES RESULTED IN FINANCE DEPARTMENT MEETING WITH AN ISSUING A NOTICE OF CURE TO CELL RICO IN SEPTEMBER OF 2018. 
          CELL RICO PROVIDED THE REQUIRED CORRECTIVE ACTION PLAN AND IMPROVEMENT. 
          IMPARTIAL CORRECTIONS OF ITEMS WERE NOTED. 
          HUMAN SERVICES, CONTINUED MONITORING AND COORDINATION, IDENTIFYING, UM, ONGOING STAFF TURNOVER, FOOD TEMPERATURE AND MEAL DELIVERY ISSUES IN 2018 AND 2019, RESULTING IN PURCHASING, REQUESTING THAT C RICO PROVIDE A SECOND SUMMARY OUTLINING THEIR CORRECTIVE ACTION IN OCTOBER OF 2019. 
          AND THEN IN, UH, 2020, WE'VE CONTINUED TO IDENTIFY CONCERNS IN NON-COMPLIANCE WITH NUTRITION GUIDELINES, APPROVED MENUS, AND MEAL DELIVERY. 
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          THE SAN ANTONIO FOOD BANK HAS MORE THAN 10 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE AS A MEALS PROVIDER FOR BOTH YOUNG CHILDREN AND THE HOMELESS FOOD BANK PROVIDES VITAL SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING SUPPORT TO FOOD, UH, COMMUNITY FOOD PANTRIES, CULINARY TRAINING AND JOB ASSISTANCE, NUTRITION EDUCATION, AND OUR PROJECT HOPE FOOD COMMODITIES PER COMMODITIES PROGRAM, UM, TO SENIORS AT OUR SENIOR CENTERS, THEY HAVE MULTIPLE COMMUNITY KITCHEN LOCATIONS WITH A BRAND NEW FACILITY COMING ONLINE THAT WILL HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PRODUCE MORE THAN 60,000 MEALS PER DAY. 
          THE EVALUATION PANEL ALSO NOTED THAT THE FOOD BANK SERVES AS A CORE PARTNER DURING EMERGENCY DISASTER RESPONSES AND FOOD BANKS PROPOSED PLAN AND TASTE TEST SCORE WAS RANKED SECOND BY THE PANEL. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND SO, THE FISCAL YEAR 2021, COST OF THE MEAL CONTRACT FOR THE PERIOD OF JANUARY 1ST THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH IS 2.46 MILLION WITH FOUR ADDITIONAL ONE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS UP TO 3.9 MILLION ANNUALLY. 
          THE ESTIMATED TOTAL CONTRACT VALUE OVER FIVE YEARS IS 18, UH, 0.2 MILLION FOR FISCAL YEAR 21. 
          THE CONTRACT WILL INCLUDE, UM, 1.7 MILLION FROM FEDERAL GRANTS, AND, UM, ALMOST 750,000 FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          FUNDING FOR FUTURE YEARS OF THE CONTRACT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO PERFORMANCE AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET. 
          AND SO THAT INCLUDES MY, UH, CONCLUDES MY PORTION OF THE BRIEFING, AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TROY ELLIOTT TO PROVIDE A BRIEF BRIEFING ON OUR PRICE ANALYSIS AND THE FINANCE AND CITY AUDITOR'S DUE DILIGENCE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU MELODY. 
          AND MELODY JUST CONCLUDE KIND OF GOING THROUGH THOSE KEY CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE ACTUALLY, UM, REVIEWS AS PART OF THEIR REVIEW OF THEIR PAPER, UM, RESPONSES AS PART OF THE CASE TESTS AND THE SITE VISITS. 
          FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE ONLY CONSIDERS THE EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND AND QUALIFICATIONS AND THE PROPOSED PLAN. 
          AFTER THEIR DELIBERATIONS AND THEIR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED, THEY FINALIZE THEIR SCORING FOR THOSE TWO AREAS. 
          AND ONCE THOSE SCORES ARE FINALIZED, AND ONLY UNTIL THOSE SCORES ARE FINALIZED AND THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT WILL SHOW THEM THE PRICING ANALYSIS AND THE SMALL BUSINESS, UM, OFFICE WILL SHOW THEM THE, UH, SCORING FOR THE VEDA COMPONENTS. 
          I WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY ON THIS SLIDE TO KIND OF WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRICE ANALYSIS. 
          THE PRICE ANALYSIS WAS VERY COMPLEX. 
          UM, THE RESPONDENTS PROPOSED ESCALATING PRICES FOR EACH YEAR OF THE FIVE YEAR TERM, AND THEY ALSO PROPOSED VOLUME DISCOUNTS, UM, FOR THE AMOUNT OF DAILY MEALS AND SHELF STABLE MEALS THAT WERE SERVED ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2000 TO 5,000 MEALS DAILY. 
          UM, WHAT I WANTED TO SHOW THOUGH IS THE AVERAGE PRICING OVER THAT FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. 
          SO WHAT YOU SEE TODAY IS THE AVERAGE PRICING, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR MEALS ON WHEELS, FOR THEIR DAILY MEALS, WHICH ARE THE HOT MEALS THAT MELODY REFERRED TO AN AVERAGE PRICE OVER THE CONTRACT OF $4 AND 7 CENTS. 
          THE FOOD BANK $4 AND 22 CENTS FOR THESE DAILY MEALS IN SALE. 
          RICO WAS THE HIGHEST AT 4 29. 
          THESE ARE THE LARGEST, UH, PERCENTAGE OF, OF MEALS THAT ARE SERVED. 
          THERE IS ALSO A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF SHELF STABLE MEALS THAT ARE SERVED AS WELL. 
          ABOUT 5% OF THE MEALS, UM, THAT ARE SERVED ARE GONNA BE THE, UH, SHELF STABLE MEALS. 
          THESE ARE THE, UM, PREPACKAGED, NON-PERISHABLE, 
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UM, NON-REFRIGERATED MEALS. 
          UM, THE PRICE FOR THE AVERAGE PRICING FOR THESE, UM, MEALS WERE $4 AND 74 CENTS PROPOSED BY MEALS ON WHEELS, THE FOOD BANK OF $4 AND 93 CENTS. 
          AND SO RICO $5 AND 72 CENTS TO PUT THAT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU OVER A, UM, BETWEEN MEALS ON WHEELS AND SALE RICO. 
          UM, D H S SERVES ABOUT 700,000 MEALS, UM, ANNUALLY, THE DIFFERENCES ABOUT $150,000 ANNUALLY BETWEEN THE LOWEST MEALS ON WHEELS AND SALE RICO, WHICH, UM, EQUATES INTO ABOUT 700, $750,000 OR A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY OF AUDITOR'S OFFICE ALSO CONDUCT DUE DILIGENCE THAT WE PROVIDE TO THE, UM, TO THE EVALUATION COMMITTEE. 
          UH, TO BEGIN WITH THOUGH, WE DO A MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS REVIEW. 
          AND MELODY TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT IN THE, UM, THE, THE INITIAL PART OF HER PRESENTATION. 
          WE DID RECEIVE FOUR PROPOSALS WHEN LOOKING AT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. 
          ONE PROPOSAL TRIO WAS DEEMED NON-RESPONSIVE FOR FAILURE TO MEET THE BETA SUBCONTRACTOR REQUIREMENTS. 
          WE ALSO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE. 
          WE DO BACKGROUND RESEARCH. 
          WE DO A VARIETY OF RESEARCH WITH, UM, INTERNET SEARCHES FOR GOOGLE, GOOGLE NEWS, THE STATE COMPTROLLER SITES, HAVE THEY EVER BEEN DISBARRED, BEXAR COUNTY TAXES, AND A WHOLE LITANY OF OTHER ITEMS. WE ALSO CONDUCT REFERENCE CHECKS AND, UM, ATTAINED LETTERS FROM, UM, SOME OF THEIR CUSTOMERS. 
          AND WE ALSO DO A FINANCIAL REVIEW. 
          THIS FINANCIAL REVIEW, BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE FOR-PROFIT COMPANIES IN THIS REVIEW, THEY'RE SOMEWHAT HESITANT TO PROVIDE, UM, AUDITED FINANCIAL STATEMENTS. 
          SO WE ASK FOR DUN AND BRADSTREET, UM, TO DO FROM A CREDIT STANDPOINT. 
          UM, ALL THREE FINANCIAL COMPANIES, UM, BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS, WERE FAIRLY STRONG. 
          UM, IF YOU HAD TO RANK THEM AS FAR AS STRENGTH, MEALS ON WHEELS WAS PROBABLY THE STRONGEST. 
          THEY HAD THE BEST FINANCIAL RATIOS. 
          UM, SO RICO WAS NEXT AND THE FOOD BANK, UM, A CLOSE THIRD KEVIN'S GROUP, THE CITY AUTOS OFFICE ALSO DOES HIS DUE DILIGENCE. 
          UM, HE LOOKS AT THE CONTRACT DISCLOSURE FORM, LOOKS FOR ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST, AND, UH, REVIEWS, CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS DURING THE TERM OF THE SOLICITATION. 
          BASED ON ALL OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE, UH, WE NOT IDENTIFY ANY ISSUES. 
          UH, LAST SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          . 
          NEXT SLIDE, JOHN. 
          UH, SO IN CONCLUSION THAT THAT CONCLUDES MELODY AND I'S PRESENTATION, WE ARE RECOMMENDING, UM, A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, THAT WE MOVE MEALS ON WHEELS AS A RECOMMENDED AWARDEE TO THE CITY COUNCIL A SESSION. 
          UH, THANK YOU. 
          THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION. 
          WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, TROY AND MELODY, UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION, AND DOUG AS WELL. 
          UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, AND START THE DISCUSSION. 
          I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE FLOOR FIRST TO, UM, THE CHAIR OF OUR CHECK COMMITTEE, UH, ALONG WITH COUNCILMAN ANDREWS SULLIVAN. 
          BOTH OF THEM REALLY PUT IN A LOT OF WORK WITH OUR CITY STAFF ON EVALUATING THE CANDIDATES FOR THE COMMITTEE THAT WE JUST REVIEWED. 
          SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH THAT. 
          UH, I'LL, I'LL GIVE THE FLOOR TO COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, AND THEN WE'LL BEGIN OUR DISCUSSION ON, ON BOTH OF THESE ITEMS. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          CAN YOU EVERYONE HEAR ME OKAY? ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, FIRST I DO WANNA THANK, UH, THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH INEQUITY COMMITTEE. 
          THAT WOULD BE, UH, COUNCILMAN TREVINO, COUNCILWOMAN VRAN, AND COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION AND THEIR SUPPORT OF THIS PROCESS. 
          AND, OF COURSE, A EXTREMELY, VERY SPECIAL, SPECIAL THANK YOU TO COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN, WHO PROBABLY DID NOT KNOW WHAT SHE WAS SIGNING UP FOR WHEN I SAID, WILL YOU PLEASE BE ON THIS COMMITTEE, UH, WITH ME. 
          UH, SHE WAS TRULY A COMRADE IN ARMS IN REVIEWING, UH, OVER A HUNDRED APPLICATIONS, UH, NARROWING THOSE DOWN TO, UH, INTERVIEWEES AND THEN OF COURSE, CONDUCTING, UH, DAYS, UH, AND DAYS OF INTERVIEWS. 
          UM, AND, UH, I'D ALSO LIKE TO EXPRESS THOSE SAME THANK YOUS TO OUR STAFF, UH, MR. MCCAREY AND DOUG MELNICK, JONATHAN JULIA MINA, AND ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO SUPPORTED THIS VERY LONG PROCESS. 
          I WOULD SAY THAT CERTAINLY THE PANDEMIC, UH, SET US BACK A LITTLE BIT TIME-WISE, AS IT, YOU KNOW, AS DOUG LIKES TO SAY, SOMETHING CAME UP, UH, WITH THE SELECTION OF THE, OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS. 
          UM, BUT IT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT THAT WE GOT IT, UM, AS RIGHT AS WE POSSIBLY COULD FOR THIS VERY IMPORTANT WORK. 
          UM, WE KNEW IT WAS IMPORTANT TO HEAR FROM DIVERSE VOICES SO THAT WE WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE IMPLEMENTATION, BECAUSE 
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IF YOU DON'T HEAR IT ON THE FRONT END, YOU'RE GONNA HEAR IT ON THE BACK END. 
          AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT. 
          WE WANT SUCCESS AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          THESE COMMITTEES WILL REALLY SERVE TO PROVIDE A REALITY CHECK ON THE STRATEGIES THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND TO HELP ADVISE US ON THE IMPLEMENTATION. 
          IS THERE SOMETHING WE'RE MISSING? IS THERE AN IDEA THAT WE CAN THINK OF? AND I AM SO EXCITED THAT WE HAVE SOME FANTASTIC, UM, BUSINESS MEMBERS ON THIS, UH, IN THIS GROUP GOING FORWARD, OR THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING, UH, RIGHT NOW. 
          AMONG THEM, WE'VE GOT CREDIT HUMAN WHO'S DONE PROBABLY THE MOST, UM, THE MOST CARBON NEUTRAL INNOVATION THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE SAN CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE'VE ALSO GOT, UH, THIS, THE SPURS SPUR SPORTS AND ENTERTAINMENT. 
          UM, THEY DID NOT PUT PATTY MILLS ON. 
          THEY SENT US THIS OTHER GUY, BUT WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, FINE, WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE THEM. 
          UH, SOMEONE WHO KNOWS A LOT ABOUT, UH, BUILDING MANAGEMENT, WE'VE GOT, UM, GUNTHER HOUSE ON HERE AND, UM, U S A A, UH, IS ON HERE. 
          SO I, I THINK IT'S JUST A FANTASTIC, VERY EXCITING GROUP. 
          AND OF COURSE, H E B, RIGHT, UH, THE SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER FOR THAT HUGE OPERATION. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A COMPANY THAT IS, UH, NOT JUST ACROSS OUR STATE, BUT ALSO, UM, INTO ANOTHER COUNTRY IN MEXICO. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE TO BRING, UH, TO THE TABLE. 
          IN ADDITION, WE HAVE SOME FANTASTIC EXPERTS, UH, PROFESSOR DEBA FROM U T SS A, WHO IS AN EXPERT ON THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          ALL THAT PAVEMENT THAT'S OUT THERE THAT MAKES US RUN OUR ACS JUST A LITTLE BIT HOTTER THAN WE WOULD, UH, IF IT WAS, UH, IF IT WAS MADE OF SOMETHING COOLER. 
          SO HE'S AN EXPERT ON THAT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE MR. WEBER FROM THE WORLD RESOURCES INSTITUTE AS SOMEONE WHO'S BEEN A STUDENT OF THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AND, UH, AND SOMEONE WHO'S FOLLOWED THE POLICIES WORLDWIDE ON IT, W R I IS, UH, IS A LEADING ENTITY IN THAT. 
          SO IT'S INCREDIBLE THAT WE EVEN HAVE THIS PERSON HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          SO, SO HAPPY THAT THEY WILL BE PART, UM, PART OF THIS GROUP. 
          UH, SO I'M SO GLAD TO SEE THIS COME TO, COME TO COUNCIL. 
          I'M VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING, UH, MY COLLEAGUES' THOUGHTS, UH, AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          AND I AM ALSO VERY, UH, GLAD TO SEE THAT THIS WILL BE AGENDIZED FOR OCTOBER 8TH. 
          UH, I THINK WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK OUR TIME PICKING PEOPLE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH MORE, WE DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME  WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CHANGE, RIGHT? WE ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION MY FIRST TERM. 
          IN FACT, MY FIRST DAY, SOME OF OUR FIRST DAYS ON COUNCIL, WE GOT THROUGH THE PLAN LAST YEAR. 
          NOW LET'S GET TO ACTUALLY REDUCING THE EMISSIONS. 
          SO I AM VERY EXCITED TO, TO GET ONTO THAT PHASE. 
          THERE'S ONE THING I, A COUPLE THINGS I DO WANNA MENTION. 
          UH, ONE OF THEM IS ABOUT A YEAR AGO. 
          AND, AND IN THE MONTHS BEFORE THE PLAN WAS ADOPTED, THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT, WELL, WHY SHOULD WE, IF OTHERS DON'T, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE KNEW THAT IT, IT'S GONNA BE HARD WORK, UH, TO DO THIS. 
          HOWEVER, I HAVE PROBABLY SOME GOOD NEWS. 
          AND THAT IS THAT LAST WEEK AT THE UN, CHINA ANNOUNCED A COMMITMENT TO CARBON NEUTRALITY CHINA, RIGHT? THE BIGGEST PRODUCER OF EMISSIONS TO CAR TO CARBON NEUTRALITY BY THE YEAR 2060. 
          I SAY IT'S ON, WE'RE GONNA BEAT THEM THERE, UH, FOR CARBON NEUTRALITY HERE IN, IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, I ALSO JUST WANT TO ASK STAFF TO CLARIFY, UH, ONE THING, UH, FOR US IN TERMS OF THE ADDITIONAL SLOTS FOR, UM, ENERGY AND AUTOMOTIVE. 
          AND THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY OUR, BY OUR COMMITTEE. 
          UH, WE DID NOT HAVE, UM, A LOT OF CANDIDATES IN THAT AREA. 
          SO WE WANTED TO, TO HOLD THOSE SLOTS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE ENERGY INDUSTRY, WHICH IS A CRITICAL IN SAN ANTONIO, NO DOUBT, BUT ALSO A CRITICAL IN TERMS OF EMISSIONS, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE AT THE TABLE WITH US AS WE MOVED FORWARD. 
          AND THE SAME FOR THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. 
          SO, DOUG, CAN YOU PLEASE WALK ME THROUGH THE STEPS THAT WE WILL TAKE BETWEEN TODAY AS ASSUMING WE HAVE CONSENSUS FROM COUNSEL BETWEEN TODAY'S DISCUSSION AND HOW WE WILL, WHAT WE WILL ADOPT ON OCTOBER 8TH? SO, UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, UH, AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS TO, TO FOLLOW THE PROCESS THAT, UM, WE EMPLOYED, UH, FROM THE BEGINNING, UM, FOLLOWING OCTO OCTOBER 8TH. 
          IF COUNCIL, UM, APPROVES AMENDING THE ORDINANCE TO CREATE 
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THESE, THESE ADDITIONAL SLOTS, UM, WE COULD, UM, UH, UNDERGO SOME TARGETED RECRUITMENT. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF REALLY, UM, EXCELLENT CANDIDATES OUT THERE. 
          BUT WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOOK TO, UH, HAVE THESE INDIVIDUALS, UH, APPLY, UM, UH, THROUGH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, WORKING WITH, WITH YOU AND, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN, IDENTIFY, UM, SPECIFIC FOLKS TO INTERVIEW PART TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO STATE SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT HERE IS I THINK WE CAN, IF, IF WE GET CONSENSUS, WE CAN POST FOR THOSE. 
          BUT I WOULD REALLY, UH, LIKE TO SEE, UM, AND, AND IT C S BE ABLE TO BEGIN WITH A FULL SLATE, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S THAT TRAINING THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH. 
          SO IF IT'S POSSIBLE FOR, I KNOW WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH MEMBERS OF BOTH OF THESE INDUSTRIES. 
          THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING THIS TODAY. 
          SO I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD GET THOSE APPLICATIONS IN AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND IN ALL FAIRNESS TO EVERYONE WHO APPLIED, YOU KNOW, WE WILL, UM, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND INTERVIEW THOSE CANDIDATES, ASK THEM THE SAME QUESTIONS. 
          UM, BUT THESE POSITIONS ARE ALSO A LITTLE DIFFERENT IN THAT WE REALLY WANT THEM TO, TO BE THE VOICE OF THAT INDUSTRY AT THE TABLE. 
          SO WE WANT THEM TO COME WITH THE SUPPORT OF, OF THEIR INDUSTRY AS A REPRESENTATIVE SO THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE SOMEONE WE CAN TALK TO ABOUT A CERTAIN ISSUE. 
          SO I JUST, I WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO VOTING FOR THIS ON OCTOBER 8TH FOR THE FULL SLATE OF CANDIDATES. 
          AND, AND LASTLY, I DID, I WAS REMISS IN THAT I DID NOT MENTION ADAM HAMILTON FROM THE SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE, UH, DR. 
          HAMILTON, THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COLLABORATION AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO PROVIDE TECHNICAL SUPPORT. 
          UM, YOU, YOU DID SAY WHATEVER INFORMATION WE NEEDED, YOU WOULD HELP US, UH, BRING IT FORWARD. 
          SO I'M VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT. 
          UM, THANK YOU, UH, VERY MUCH MAYOR FOR, UH, ALLOTTING ME THIS TIME, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          AND, AND, UM, IF I CAN JUST INTERJECT, I, I CONCUR WITH YOU. 
          I THINK IF WE, UH, MOVE FORWARD, IF, UH, YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN, UH, CAN FEEL THOSE CANDIDATES, I THINK WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, UH, ON OCTOBER 8TH WITH A FULL SLATE. 
          GIVEN THAT THESE, UM, THESE SLOTS ARE LIKELY GONNA SELF APPOINT, UH, WHO THEY WOULD RECOMMEND FOR Y'ALL TO NOMINATE. 
          SO, UH, ERIC, DO YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT? UH, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA, I WAS GONNA SAY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID, MARILYN, AND SUGGEST THAT THAT, UM, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO GET IT, UH, DONE ALL AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT THE COUNCIL'S APPOINTING EVERYBODY AT THE SAME TIME. 
          THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WORK DONE, AND THE MAJORITY OF IT'S DONE. 
          AND, UM, DEPENDING ON THE COUNCIL CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON, WE COULD REACH OUT TO THOSE INDUSTRIES AND ASK THEM TO NOMINATE INDIVIDUALS SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THEM IN THE SLATE, THE FULL SLATE FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION IN THE AGENDA PACKET ON FRIDAY. 
          GREAT, THANK YOU. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, LET ME GO NOW TO, UH, THE, UH, CO-PILOT IN THIS, UM, THIS ENDEAVOR. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN. 
          UM, THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU ERIC. 
          UM, THANK YOU, DAVID. 
          THANK YOU, DOUG. 
          UM, IT'S SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE A PART OF THIS PROCESS, BUT, UH, TO MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, UM, THANK YOU, UH, FOR YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS. 
          I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF WORK, UM, LOOKING THROUGH THIS HUGE BINDER THAT WE RECEIVED OF ALL THE GREAT APPLICANTS. 
          BUT, UM, TRULY GETTING DOWN TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF UNDERSTANDING HOW WELL EACH APPLICANT UNDERSTOOD EQUITY AND WHAT IT TRULY MEANS AS WE LOOK AT CLIMATE CONTROL, UM, AND LISTENING TO THE INTERVIEWS AND LISTENING TO THE HEART. 
          SO THOSE THAT ARE ASKING TO BE A PART OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TRULY WHAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE WERE DOING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          AND, UM, COMING UP WITH THE SLATE OF CANDIDATES THAT WE HAVE GOING FORWARD. 
          WE TRULY WANTED TO MAKE IT INCLUSIVE. 
          WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE VOICES SPOKE FOR NOT ONLY THE INDUSTRIES, BUT FOR THE COMMUNITY. 
          UM, I KNOW MR. LUCKY IS A PART OF AN INDUSTRY THAT WILL HELP US WITH FOOD SUSTAINABILITY AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          UM, AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD BOOTS ON THE GROUND, NOT ONLY IN THE INDUSTRIES, BUT OUT IN THE, THE COMMUNITIES AS WELL TO HELP US FIND OUT WHERE THE GAPS ARE AND HOW DO WE CLOSE 'EM WHEN IT COMES TO CLIMATE CONTROL, CLIMATE EQUITY, AND CLIMATE JUSTICE. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW WITH THESE CANDIDATES IS A SLATE THAT WILL BE A REPRESENTATION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND SO WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GOING TO COUNCIL. 
          UM, I THANK YOU TO ALL MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES FOR ALLOWING US TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AND BREAK DOWN HOW WE GOTTA WHERE WE'RE TODAY, UM, AND THEN GAINING YOUR 
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SUPPORT AS WE GO FORWARD TO MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE SPEAKING TO CLIMATE JUSTICE AND NOT JUST CLIMATE CONTROL. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          THANK YOU COUNCILWOMAN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. 
          I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS GOING FORWARD. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE ALL OF THESE SLOTS FILLED BY OCTOBER 8TH. 
          SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN. 
          I'LL GO OUT TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          OKAY. 
          HI. 
          UM, SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT BOTH ITEMS RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? YES, THAT'S RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK MY FIRST, WELL, I'LL STAY ON THE TOPIC OF THE, UM, THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEES AND WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THIS ELECTION PROCESS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH TO MY COLLEAGUES, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, CHAIR SANDOVAL, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          UM, YES, WE KEEP, UH, PUTTING YOU ON ALL OF THESE COMMITTEES TO LEAVE THESE COMMITTEES, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          SO, UH, GOOD FOR YOU. 
          AND I, I DO WANT TO, I THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THIS, AND I WILL JUST SHARE WITH YOU SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I ALREADY SHARED WITH MY, UM, MY COLLEAGUE COUNCIL MEMBER SAND DEVAL. 
          UM, 'CAUSE IN THE, YOU KNOW, AN ETHICAL FRAMEWORK AND HOW WE TALK ABOUT A CLIMATE EQUITY FRAMEWORK PRIORITIZES THE COMMUNITY'S BURDEN THE MOST BY CLIMATE CHANGE, THOSE THAT CONTRIBUTE THE LEAST TO CLIMATE CHANGE AND THOSE MOST SOCIALLY VULNERABLE TO IT. 
          AND SHE KNOWS THIS. 
          AND I EVEN SHARED THIS AT THE CHECK COMMUNITY COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, AND I DIDN'T SEE THE ALTERNATE A PART OF THE, THE PRESENTATION HERE. 
          MAYBE I MISSED THAT. 
          UH, BECAUSE IN DISTRICT THREE, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE OIL REFINERY ON THE MISSION. 
          WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE MITCHELL LAKE, UM, PART OF THE, THE HISTORY OF JUST BEFORE SINGLE MEMBER DISTRICTS AND REPRESENTATION, JUST A DUMPING OF EITHER NELSON GARDENS LANDFILL, EITHER THE, UH, THE SEWAGE AREAS, ET CETERA. 
          SO THE, THE SOUTH AND THE SOUTHEAST AREA, AND I MEAN SOUTH, UH, HAS BEEN IMPACTED WITH, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL INJUSTICE. 
          AND SO, UM, TO NOT HAVE PEOPLE REPRESENTED, UM, FROM THE DISTRICT ON THESE COMMITTEES IS DISHEARTENING. 
          UM, AND I KNOW, UH, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I GUESS TOYOTA OR SOMEBODY A A TIER ONE SUPPLIER DID NOT REACH BACK OR BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR REASONS. 
          UM, SO WE HAVE, UM, THE, THE AUTOMOTIVE DEALER A PART OF THE, THE, THE CONVERSATION HERE. 
          SO I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO ENSURE AND BRING THE POINT ACROSS IS THAT WHEN OUR ADVOCACY GROUP THAT GOES OUT, UM, THE GROUP, OUR, UM, OUR CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, THE AT LARGE MEMBERS, I HOPE THEY WILL GO OUT AND BE A VERY, UM, HYPER-FOCUSED, IF YOU WILL, ESPECIALLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, IN AND AROUND THE, THOSE AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE CLOSE, UM, DISTRICTS IN IN THE INNER CITY NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH LEAD IN THE SOIL, THAT HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH, UM, MAYBE CHANGES IN, IN OUR, IN OUR ENVIRONMENT. 
          UM, REALLY GO INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. 
          I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THEY GO AND DO THAT HYPER OUTREACH IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO, UM, DOUG, IS THAT GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE WITH THIS COMMUNITY? IF IT'S NOT, I, I WOULD LIKE IT TO HAPPEN. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT COMMENT, COUNCILWOMAN, THAT IS ABSOLUTELY GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          THAT IS, THAT IS THE INTENT OF, OF THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UM, NOT JUST TO BRING THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE AND EXPERIENCE TO THE TABLE, BUT TO HELP AMPLIFY IT AND BE THE DIRECT CONDUIT FOR THOSE COMMUNITIES. 
          UM, IT, THEY'RE GONNA CONTINUE THE WORK THAT WE HAD, UH, INITIATED AS A PART OF THE CLIMATE PLAN WHERE MM-HMM. 
          , UM, WE WERE DOING, WE WERE DOING ENGAGEMENTS, UM, THROUGH NORMAL MECHANISMS. AND WE REALIZED, UM, WE WEREN'T GETTING ALL THE VOICES THAT WE NEEDED. 
          SO WE ACTUALLY DID AN ANALYSIS BY ZIP CODE TO FIND OUT WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE OUR MOST VULNERABLE AND, AND MARGINALIZED POPULATIONS. 
          AND WE DIRECTED RESOURCES TO THOSE, THOSE, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. 
          SO, UM, 
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I, I THINK THAT IS GONNA BE A, A CRITICAL MISSION FOR THIS, FOR THIS GROUP. 
          I ALSO SEE, UM, ADDITIONAL SUBCOMMITTEES POTENTIALLY BEING FORMED ON VERY SPECIFIC, UM, ITEMS SUCH AS, UM, EQUITABLE ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH. 
          UM, IT'S A MARATHON, BUT THAT'S, THAT IS, THAT IS WHY I THINK WE HAD RECOMMENDED CREATING THIS INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE TO DO THIS CLIMATE AND ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE WORK. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF NUANCES IN EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT. 
          AND I KNOW, ESPECIALLY IN THE INNER AND THE URBAN CORE AND RIGHT OUTSIDE, THAT HAS A HISTORY THAT WE NEED TO SHARE THAT HISTORY OF THE, UM, THE BUILDING OF OUR EXPRESSWAYS, THE BUILDING OF DIFFERENT ITEMS IN EVERY DISTRICT. 
          SO I THINK THOSE STORIES, AS WE'RE PLANNING AND HELPING OUR COMMUNITY GROW, NEEDS TO BE TOLD SO WE CAN ALSO TAKE CARE OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          BUT, UM, YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M GLAD TO SEE WITH SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTE, THEY ARE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF EVERYTHING, SO THEY NEED TO BE A PART OF IT. 
          AND YES, OF COURSE, ALL OF THOSE WHO ARE, UM, PRACTITIONERS AND PARTNERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY, LIKE OUR CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, THEY ALL HAVE TO BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION. 
          'CAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US. 
          UM, SO THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN, UM, FOR MY LAST FOUR MINUTES, I WANNA TALK ABOUT THE, THE CONTRACT WITH, UM, THE MEAL SERVICES. 
          I, A A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UM, NUMBER ONE, UM, GOD REST HER SOUL, IDA RAMOS, WHO WORKED WITH US IN OUR, IN OUR DEPARTMENT, WAS ALWAYS THERE IN OUR DISTRICT, WAS ALWAYS THERE WITH OUR SI SENIORS, UM, HELPING. 
          AND, UM, MELODY, I KNOW THERE WERE ALL A COUPLE OF INSTANCES WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE, THE ISSUES WITH FOOD AND THE FOOD THAT WAS DELIVERED, THE, THE FOOD THAT WAS, UM, WELL ANYHOW, SO MY QUESTION IS, WERE THOSE ITEMS LIKE CALLS AND, UM, ISSUES OR CONCERNS, WERE THOSE ALL TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION DURING THIS WHOLE R F P PROCESS? YES. 
          SO, UM, ALL OF THE, THE PAST PERFORMANCE ISSUES THAT WE DOCUMENTED WERE PART OF THE, UM, SCORING FOR EXPERIENCE, QUALIFICATION AND BACKGROUND, THAT SECTION OF THE PROPOSAL. 
          UM, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THERE'S, UM, SUCH A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MEALS ON WHEELS AND THE SCORES OF BOTH, UH, RIKO AND FOOD BANKS REALLY WAS MORE ABOUT EXPERIENCE. 
          BUT RI RICO'S SCORE WAS LOWERED BY, UM, THOSE PAST CONCERN, PAST AND CURRENT CONCERNS. 
          ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, THE, THE DIFFERENCES IN SCORING FOR PROPOSED PLAN AND TASTE TEST QUESTION, JUST VERY EASY QUESTION ON THE TASTE TEST, WERE THEY ALL, UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALL OF 'EM. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO WERE, WERE THEY ALL SUPPOSED TO BE MAKING THE SAME THING FOR THEM TO TASTE OR WE GAVE THEM DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? UH, NO, WE, WE GAVE THEM A, UH, MENU AND WITH SELECTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM. 
          THEY, THEY ALL PRETTY MUCH SERVED THE SAME ENTREES. 
          EACH EACH SERVED TWO MEALS. 
          UM, AND THEY HAD, BUT THEY HAD SOME DIFFERENT SIDES. 
          AND SO THEY, THEY, THESE WERE MEALS THAT WOULD, YOU WOULD SEE ON OUR NUTRITION PROGRAM, UM, MENUS NORMALLY. 
          UM, AND THEY HAD THOSE UPFRONT TO, UM, TO MAKE THE, OR MAKE THE SELECTION OF, OF ITEMS. SO IT WAS A FAIR, IT WAS A FAIR PROCESS OF WHAT TO, TO SERVE IN ORDER FOR A CASE TEST. 
          YES. 
          THEY ALL HAD THE SAME INSTRUCTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN, OKAY, I THINK THOSE WERE ALL OF MY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, IF I HAVE ANY FOLLOW UPS, I WILL CHIME BACK IN. 
          BUT THANK YOU ALL VERY, VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING WITH OUR SENIORS. 
          AND THEN OF COURSE, WITH OUR CLIMATE, UM, ACTION. 
          I, I AGREE. 
          WE NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING AND MOVING FORWARD. 
          WE ALL MADE THAT COMMITMENT, SO LET'S MOVE FORWARD. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, JUST MELODY, UM, I LOVE THE BILLBOARDS THAT WE HAVE UP NOW THAT SAY WE MISS OUR SENIORS. 
          UH, IT'S VERY MOVING, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND THAT'S ALL MAYOR RIGHT NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRA COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHE GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION. 
          UM, DOUG, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION, BUT CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE OR, OR WHAT DISTRICTS ARE REPRESENTED WITH YOUR RECOMMENDED, UH, FOLKS TO 
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THE, UM, TO THE PROCESS? OR, OR IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN SEE MAYBE NEXT TIME? I, I'M, I'M ALWAYS JUST, UH, TRYING TO SEE HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM DISTRICT FOUR ARE REPRESENTED, FOR INSTANCE, AND SO DO YOU HAVE THAT, OR, AND MAYBE YOU COULD JUST SEND IT TO ME OFFLINE. 
          I JUST WANNA SEE WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM. 
          UM, WE, WE DO HAVE THAT, UM, UH, AS A, AS A BACKUP SLIDE. 
          UM, IF WE COULD SHARE THAT, IF WE GO TO SLIDE, UM, 16, UH, IT'S VERY SMALL. 
          UM, IF YOU, UH, DOWN AT THE, THE BOTTOM, UM, WE'VE GOT COUNCIL DISTRICTS. 
          THANK YOU, JOHN. 
          UM, YOU CAN SEE ALL, UM, PEOPLE WERE, UM, WERE REQUIRED TO EITHER LIVE OR WORK, UM, IN, IN THE CITY. 
          WE HAVE EVERY DISTRICT REPRESENTED, UH, ON THE TECHNICAL COMMITTEE EXCEPT FOR THREE AND FOUR. 
          AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT, UM, SLIDE, PLEASE, JOHN, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, THIS WAS A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING SINCE THERE WAS A SMALLER, UM, UM, GROUP THAT WE WERE WORKING WITH. 
          UM, BUT FOR THE EQUITY, UH, COMMITTEE, UM, WE HAVE DISTRICTS, UH, 1, 2, 3, 7, AND EIGHT, UH, REPRESENTED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UM, IF, IF I'M CORRECT, DISTRICT FOUR HAS NO REPRESENTATION IN ANY THEIR COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, DID THAT, DID WE HAVE APPLICANTS FROM DISTRICT FOUR? UM, I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND DOUBLE CHECK THAT, MA'AM. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND, AND, UH, AGAIN, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EQUITY AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOW IN, IN YOUR PRESENTATION YOU REFERENCED THAT, UM, WE ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY, UH, AFFECTED AND THEN WE'VE SEEN IT WITH COVID AND WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD SOME FOLKS THAT WERE, UH, AT, AT LEAST REACHED OUT TO, TO APPLY. 
          AND SO, UM, SO JUST, JUST DOUBLE CHECKING. 
          AND I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU ALL WORK VERY HARD AND I, I KNOW A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUALS ON THERE, UM, AND I'M VERY HAPPY TO SEE THAT THEY'RE, UH, INVOLVED AND THAT THEY APPLIED AND THAT THEY'RE BEING RECOMMENDED AND JUST AGAIN, UM, HAVE TO BE THE SQUEAKY WHEEL. 
          AND THAT DISTRICT FOUR HAD ZERO FOLKS. 
          UH, AND SO TO ME, THAT'S DISAPPOINTING. 
          UM, IT, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED, UH, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST HAD TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          UM, AND I, I'M NOT THE ONLY DISTRICT THAT HAD A ZERO UNDER THERE, AND I KNOW IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT. 
          UM, BUT, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT MAYBE YOU ALL REACH OUT TO ME AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, NOBODY FROM YOUR DISTRICT HAS APPLIED BECAUSE, UM, YEAH. 
          YOU KNOW, MAYBE IT, MAYBE I, I, UH, COULD HELP OR MY OFFICE COULD HELP WITH THAT. 
          UM, COUNCILWOMAN, THIS IS DAVID MCCAREY. 
          I, I DID WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT AS A PART OF THIS PROCESS, WE DID STRETCH THE NET, UH, WIDE ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO INCLUDE THAT, UH, OUTREACH IN DISTRICTS THREE AND FOUR. 
          SO WE MADE CERTAIN WE DIDN'T, I'M SURE DOUG, WHEN HE GETS BACK WITH YOU WILL SHARE THOSE. 
          IT MAY HAVE COME CLOSE TO SURE. 
          THAT PROCESS, BUT, OKAY. 
          YEAH, IT WAS A WIDE NET THAT WE KEPT. 
          OKAY. 
          WONDERFUL. 
          THANK YOU, MR. . 
          AND I, UH, I, I HAVE NO DOUBT, I JUST ALWAYS HAVE TO, UM, ASK, AND I KNOW THE COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL'S A GREAT CHAMPION OF THIS, SO, UM, SO I'M SURE SHE WAS, UH, SHE, SHE WAS ON TOP OF IT, AND I JUST, I HADN'T HAD THE CHANCE TO, TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR SHARING IT. 
          AND THEN ALSO, I KNOW THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HAVING REPRESENTATIVES FROM, FROM DIFFERENT, UH, UH, CORPORATIONS, ET CETERA. 
          AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE INDUSTRIES THAT NEED TO BE ADDED. 
          UM, WE HAVE GREAT CORPORATE CITIZENS, UH, THAT HELP A LOT. 
          UM, SOUTHWEST RESEARCH INSTITUTION HAS AN R AND D DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO, UM, I, I THINK THAT AT THE HEART, OBVIOUSLY AT THE HEART OF INNOVATION IS THE R AND D DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO I, I, I KNOW THAT TYPICALLY WE CONSIDER, UM, RECOMMENDING FOLKS, UH, OF A CERTAIN EXECUTIVE LEVEL. 
          UM, BUT I, I WOULD JUST REMIND YOU ALL THAT THE FOLKS OVER AT SOUTHWEST RESEARCH CENTER AND THE R AND D DEPARTMENT ARE, ARE PHENOMENAL. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AND PROBABLY ANOTHER ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL. 
          IT'S REALLY CRITICAL THAT WE START LOOKING AT THE R AND D TEAMS THROUGHOUT, UM, ORGANIZATIONS. 
          BUT THAT'S, UH, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS FOR, UM, FOR, FOR THAT PORTION OF IT. 
          AND THEN MY NEXT IS ON THE CONTRACT. 
          AND SO, MELODY, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UM, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND SO, UM, WHEN I WAS IN, IN IN SCHOOL, UM, THE BIG THING ABOUT FOOD, UH, AND EATING IN THE CAFETERIA LINE WAS THE TASTE, RIGHT? AND SO I'M, UH, GLAD THAT MEALS ON WHEELS SCORED SO HIGH. 
          UH, AND SO TASTE IS HUGE, AND I'M GLAD THAT WE HAD RESIDENTS, SO THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY EATING THE MEALS ON A DAILY BASIS, AND THE TASTE TESTING, 
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UM, ET CETERA. 
          SO, SO THANK YOU FOR MY, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS GONNA BE SPECIFICALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE, UH, FROM, FROM THE DIFFERENT, UM, COMMUNITY CENTERS WERE ON THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, BUT, BUT YOU REFERENCED THAT. 
          I HAVE A QUESTION. 
          DO WE KNOW THE HEALTH SCORES OF THE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? YOU KNOW, HOW METRO HEALTH GIVES, UM, HUNDREDS AND THEN 90 NINES AND THEN MAYBE NOT SO HIGH SCORES. 
          WE HAVE HEALTH SCORES FOR, UH, FOR THE THREE ENTITIES THAT WE'RE COMPETING TODAY, BY ANY CHANCE? I, I'M JUST WONDERING, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT SCORES, BUT I KNOW THAT WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THEM AND DIDN'T SEE ANY MAJOR CONCERNS WITH, WITH ANY OF THE, THOSE CANDIDATES. 
          SURE. 
          WELL, THANK YOU MELODY. 
          I, I KNOW THE HEALTH SCORE FOR MEALS ON WHEELS BECAUSE I TOOK A, A, A TOUR OF THEIR FACILITY RECENTLY. 
          AND SO, UM, I, I JUST WANTED TO SEE HOW THEY COMPARE AND, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT SINCE THEY'RE A NONPROFIT AND SO AS A FOOD BANK, THAT WE HAVE EASIER ACCESS TO FINANCIAL REVIEWS, SO I COULD UNDERSTAND WHY WE WOULD, UH, SAY THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE FINANCIALLY STABLE. 
          UM, I DO WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS FROM, UH, AN ADDED VALUE PERSPECTIVE, AND THIS IS WHY, UH, I THINK THAT YOU ALL PROBABLY SELECTED MEALS ON WHEELS ALSO, UM, AT THE, GAVE THEM THE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE. 
          AND SO, UM, THEY HAVE WRAPAROUND, UH, THEY HAVE OTHER SERVICES, RIGHT? SO THE GRACE HOPE, THE GRACE CENTER THAT YOU ALL MENTIONED, AND, AND JUST EVEN DELIVERING MEALS WITH THEM, UM, MADE ME REALIZE THAT, THAT, THAT FOLKS REALLY, UH, CARE. 
          AND SO THERE'S OTHER, UM, NEEDS THAT, THAT OUR COMMUNITY HAS THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO THEN TURN SOME, SOME RESOURCES TO. 
          AND SO WOULD, UM, WOULD THE, SO I, THE FOOD BANK I KNOW HAS THOSE RESOURCES, BUT WOULD SOUTH RICO ALSO BE ABLE TO CONNECT OUR RESIDENTS TO THESE SERVICES? ARE THEY FULLY AWARE OF A FULL SPECTRUM OF SERVICES IN CASE THEY SEE A RESIDENT THAT NEEDS SOMETHING? WELL, THAT REALLY HASN'T BEEN PART OF THE CONTRACT OR WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO AS FAR AS REFERRAL TO OTHER SERVICES. 
          WE DO THAT IN OUR CENTERS. 
          UM, RI RICO HAS BEEN, THEY HAVE PROVIDED ADDITIONAL EXTRAS LIKE BIRTHDAY CAKES, UM, IN THE CENTERS EVERY MONTH. 
          UM, WHEN WE HAVE SPECIAL EVENTS, THEY'LL, THEY'LL PROVIDE EXTRA CAKES OR DESSERTS, UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT THEIR LINE OF WORK. 
          SURE. 
          UM, AND SO YES, IT IS AN ADVANTAGE FOR MEALS ON WHEELS THAT THEY'RE FOCUSED PURELY A HUNDRED PERCENT ON THE WELLBEING OF SENIORS AND, AND PROVIDE THOSE OTHER, OTHER SERVICES. 
          BUT IT'S NOT PART OF WHAT THE R F P REQUESTED. 
          OKAY. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          I I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS TAKEN IN, INTO CONSIDERATION IF THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE THE VALUE ADDED, RIGHT. 
          THAT, THAT A NON-PROFIT WOULD BRING. 
          AND I THINK THAT THE REASON THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS SO MUCH IS, UM, UH, ON JUNE 21ST, 2018, I PRESENTED, UM, THROUGH THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD AND, AND AT THE TIME, UH, THERE, UH, SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, WERE ENGAGED IN A, IN A VERY HEALTHY DISCUSSION THAT INCLUDED NONPROFITS. 
          AND I REMEMBER COUNCILMAN PALS AT ABOUT, I DUNNO, THREE HOURS INTO THE MEETING, UM, MENTIONED SOMETHING LIKE UH, YOU KNOW, AND I'M, I'M, I, I, I'M HAPPY IF NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS GET MORE FAVOR OVER, UH, SOMEONE WHO'S NOT A NONPROFIT. 
          AND, AND THAT KIND OF ALWAYS STUCK WITH ME AFTER THAT. 
          AND SO I, UH, I WAS TRYING TO POINT SOMETHING ELSE OUT AT THAT TIME. 
          UM, BUT WHEN HE SAID THAT, I REALIZED, OKAY, I GET IT. 
          YOU KNOW, COUNCIL PAEZ IS TRYING TO SAY THAT NONPROFITS, UM, ARE, ARE, ARE THE HEARTBEAT OF OUR COMMUNITY, WHAT KEEPS US MOVING, RIGHT? UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE AN EXTENDED, UH, SERVICE. 
          AND SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING, AND AS A PART OF THAT EVALUATION PROCESS, THAT THAT GAVE THEM AN ADDED, UM, SET OF, OF VALUE OR, AND AGAIN, THE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE OR AN ADDED VALUE. 
          AND SO, UM, AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON THAT I WAS ASKING MELANIE, AGAIN, UM, COUNCILMAN EZ BEING, I DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT HE SAYS, BUT, UM, HERE WE ARE TWO YEARS LATER, AND I STILL RECALL WORD FOR WORD, UM, WHAT, WHAT HE SAID. 
          AND SO, AND, AND IT'S TIMESTAMPED. 
          IF YOU WANNA GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT, COUNCILMAN EZ, AND REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID. 
          I WAS LIKE, THREE HOURS AND 12 MINUTES, ACTUALLY. 
          UH, BUT, UM, THAT, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS. 
          MELODY, I APPRECIATE YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          AND, UH, I, I LOOK FORWARD TO FURTHER DISCUSSION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER R GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MELODY. 
          AND CAN I JUST GET A, MY CHECK? OKAY, GOOD. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO, UH, I, I'LL JUST, YOU KNOW, START WITH THE CONTRACT. 
          UM, SO WE KNOW THAT MEALS ON WHEELS, ALSO THE FOOD BANK, UM, THEY'RE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH MEANS THEY DON'T PAY TAXES, UM, ON THEIR FACILITIES. 
          UM, THEY'RE LARGELY, UM, VOLUNTEER RUN, AT LEAST. 
          THAT WAS ALWAYS MY UNDERSTANDING. 
          I, I VOLUNTEERED A 
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NUMBER OF TIMES, UM, FOR BOTH ORGANIZATIONS, BUT PRIMARILY, UM, WITH MEALS ON WHEELS WHEN I WENT AND DELIVERED FOOD. 
          UM, AND SO I IMAGINE THERE'S NO PAYROLL ASSOCIATED WITH, UM, THOSE SERVICES OR, UH, NO INSURANCE PAID. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE PRIMARILY USING THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT VEHICLES. 
          UM, SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COST, UM, MY SENSE THAT THERE'S AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE GIVEN TO THE NONPROFITS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES, AND THEY HAVEN'T PREVIOUSLY PAID PAYROLL TAXES FOR ANY OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AS WELL. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG THEIR ORGANIZATION IS NOW. 
          PERHAPS YOU COULD SHARE THAT INFORMATION. 
          I DON'T HAVE THEIR, SO, YEAH, GO AHEAD, MELODY. 
          UM, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA ADDRESS THE VOLUNTEER QUESTION THEN, TROY, MAYBE YOU ADDRESS THE, THE OTHER FINANCIAL QUESTIONS. 
          AS FAR AS VOLUNTEERS, THEY, MEALS ON WHEELS HAS A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS. THEIR HOME BOUND SENIOR MEAL DELIVERY SERVICE IS, UM, UH, INCORPORATES VOLUNTEERS, IS DEPENDENT ON VOLUNTEERS TO DELIVER THE MEALS TO THE SENIOR'S HOME. 
          UM, THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS, GRACE HOUSE AND THE SENIOR COMPANION PROGRAM THAT WE FUND, THEY DO HAVE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, PAID EMPLOYEES, UM, THAT ARE FUNDED OUT OF. 
          WE HAVE A, A SMALL PROGRAM WITH THEM, 50,000 A YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEY DO HAVE ONE PERSON THAT'S PAID OUT OF THAT. 
          SO, SO THEY DO HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH, UM, PAYROLL AND HIRING. 
          UM, AND AS FAR AS INSURANCE, WE ALSO REQUIRE INSURANCES AS PART OF OUR CONTRACTS. 
          AND SO I AS DO MOST GRANTS. 
          AND SO THEY WOULD'VE, THEY WOULD BE PAYING INSURANCES. 
          I DO HAVE A, I GUESS JUST TO FOLLOW UP TO THAT, I DO HAVE A COPY OF THEIR 2019, UM, ANNUAL REPORT. 
          AND AS FAR AS SALARIES, THEY PAY ACROSS THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION. 
          THEY PAY ABOUT $3.2 MILLION IN SALARIES AND ADDITIONAL 309,000 IN BENEFITS. 
          UM, AND OTHER BENEFITS ON TOP OF THAT. 
          I'LL ALSO SAY, UM, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT NON-PROFITS, HEY, UH, TROY, BUT, UM, CAN, CAN, CAN YOU TALK, CAN YOU DO, BUT HOW MANY EMPLOYEES? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. 
          YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE NUMBER OF PAYROLL. 
          'CAUSE I, I, I DO THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT INFORMATION, UM, BECAUSE WE ALSO KNOW THAT SOME, UH, NONPROFITS ARE, UM, ACTUALLY PAY THEIR CEOS VERY GENEROUSLY. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION, UM, THAT WE CAN SEE IF WE, IF WE NEED TO. 
          BUT, UM, UH, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. 
          UH, MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE NONPROFITS IS, SOME OF THEM ARE THAT YOU HAVE A COUPLE OF VERY HEAVY, HIGHLY PAID, UH, PEOPLE AT THE TOP AND THEN MOSTLY VOLUNTEERS, UM, THAT DO THE REST OF IT. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO HAVE, UH, IS HOW MANY, UH, PEOPLE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? 'CAUSE THAT DOES SOUND LIKE A VERY GENEROUS PAYROLL. 
          UM, BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE? SO, UM, I'LL, I'LL, I, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HAVE STILL SOME TIME BEFORE WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION, BUT IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW HOW MANY EMPLOYEES, UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT WITH ME, AND I'LL, I'LL FIND THAT OUT. 
          THE, THE ONE THING I DO WANNA FOLLOW UP, UM, TO THE OTHER PART OF THE QUESTION, AS FAR AS NON-PROFITS VERSUS FOR-PROFITS AND THE, UH, COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS PART OF OUR PREFERENCE PROGRAMS, UM, BECAUSE NONPROFITS DO HAVE AN INHERENT ADVANTAGE, WE DO NOT PROVIDE THEM THE PREFERENCE POINTS. 
          SO FROM A VETA STANDPOINT, THEY DO NOT GET ANY POINTS OR ANY PREFERENCES. 
          AND ALSO OUR LOCAL PREFERENCE PROGRAM, UM, AS WELL. 
          SO WE DO TRY TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD BETWEEN THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THESE OTHER POINTS IN OUR PREFERENCE PROGRAMS. BUT ISN'T THAT ALSO LIKELY TO IMPACT THE COST? UH, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU DID SHOW THE COST ACROSS THE BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF YOU'RE MOSTLY VOLUNTEER RUN AND YOU'RE NOT PAYING TAXES, THEN, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THEN YOUR BOTTOM LINE IS YOUR PRICE PER PRODUCT IS MUCH LESS. 
          I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE NOT HAVING TO PAY PROPERTY TAXES, HOW MUCH MORE GENEROUS THINGS IT COULD BE. 
          WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I BETTER LEAVE IT AT THAT. 
          SO, UM, MAYBE YOU COULD, UM, JUST ANSWER THAT. 
          YEAH, IT, IT COULD IMPACT THEIR COST AS FAR AS THE PRODUCT THAT THEY'RE OFFERING, UM, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY DO HAVE THAT INHERENT ADVANTAGE, BUT, UM, TO REALLY COMPENSATE FOR THAT, AS I MENTIONED, WE TRY TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD AND THAT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY TYPE OF PREFERENCE POINTS. 
          IN THIS CASE, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK SORI RICO GOT 20 POINTS FOR THE, THE SMALL BUSINESS AND THE MINORITY BUSINESS, WHERE THE NONPROFITS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANY OF THOSE. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T PRESENT THAT IN YOUR INFORMATION. 
          AND I THINK THAT ALSO COULD SKEW, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WE, WE DID SEE ALL THE PREFERENCE POINTS, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU PRESENTED THAT THEIR COST WAS HIGHEST, AND I THINK THAT'S NOT A FAIR REPRESENTATION. 
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UM, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD, UH, JUST SORT OF REGARDING THE, UM, EVEN, YOU KNOW, JUST REGARDING THE TASTE TEST AND, AND ALL THAT SORT OF THING, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAD TWO PEOPLE, UM, ON THE TASTE EVALUATION. 
          AM I RIGHT ABOUT THAT? NO, THERE WERE EIGHT PEOPLE ON THE EVALUATION PANEL. 
          THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE THAT, UH, VISITED THE KITCHENS, UM, OF EACH ORGANIZATION TO ASSESS THEIR, UM, OPERATION AND, UH, CLEANLINESS. 
          BUT EIGHT PEOPLE SCORE ALL OF THE OTHER SECTIONS OF THE PROPOSALS, RIGHT? BUT THEY, AND THEY SERVE 12,000 MEALS A WEEK. 
          UM, AND I MEAN, HOW MANY, I DON'T HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN EACH CENTER, BUT I MEAN, I THINK I CAN SAY WITH SOME CONFIDENCE ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE A DAY AT ONE OF MY CENTERS. 
          MAYBE I'M EXAGGERATING. 
          MAYBE IT'S MORE LIKE 60 PEOPLE A DAY AT MY CENTER, AT ONE CENTER, UM, IN DISTRICT FIVE. 
          AND SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAD A LOT OF, UM, CENTERS IN THE DISTRICT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, INCLUDING THE NUTRITION SITES. 
          AND THEN I THINK I'VE GOT THREE CENTERS, AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF OTHERS. 
          UM, SO, UH, I, YEAH, I DID HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONCERN ABOUT LIKE, PERHAPS NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE PARTICIPATING, AND MAYBE IT'S NOT A WIDE SCOPE, UM, OF, OF, UM, THAT PARTICULAR PART OF IT. 
          UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I ASKED FOR THIS TO COME TO A B SESSION BECAUSE WE KNOW THIS IS, UM, I MEAN, THE SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE TO OUR SENIORS IS SO IMPORTANT. 
          AND I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION, UH, THAT WE WANT THE BEST SERVICES FOR THEM. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, WE MISS THEM SO MUCH. 
          I REALLY FEEL LIKE OF ALL THE THINGS I'VE MISSED DURING COVID, IT REALLY HAS BEEN, UH, NOT SEEING OUR SENIORS. 
          AND EARLY ON, UH, IN MY TENURE, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I FELT LIKE, UM, WE COULD DO MORE FOR OUR SENIORS, BUT NOW I FEEL LIKE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO PROVIDE THE MEALS AND ALSO JUST TO SEE EACH OTHER IN PERSON IS SO CRITICAL. 
          SO I LOOK FORWARD TO THE DAY THAT WE CAN SEE EACH OTHER IN PERSON AND GET BACK TO ALL THE PARTIES AND ALL THE EVENTS THAT WE DID, UH, FOR THEM. 
          UM, BUT ALSO, UM, WE KNOW THATS, RICO PROVIDED A LOT OF IN-KIND SERVICES, AND YOU MENTIONED CAKES, BUT IT'S REALLY MUCH MORE THAN THAT, UH, THAT THEY'VE DONE FOR OUR SERVICES. 
          AND I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION BECAUSE MY SENSE IS ALSO THAT A NONPROFIT IS NOT LIKELY TO MAKE THOSE ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS AS WELL. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE OR NOT TRUE, BUT MY SENSE IS THAT IF YOU'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, UM, AND YOU'RE RUNNING ON A PRETTY SLIM MARGIN, THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO OFFER A LOT OF AMENITIES. 
          UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVEN'T PROVEN TO DO THAT. 
          BUT I THINK THAT THOSE THINGS ARE EQUALLY IMPORTANT AS WELL, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, THAT THE ADDITIONAL IN-KIND SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDED, AND OF COURSE, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN YOUR SCORING MATRIX. 
          UM, AND, UM, I JUST, UH, I, I KNOW THAT, UM, UH, AS A, YOU KNOW, SMALL BUSINESS, UH, LONGTIME SERVICES IN OUR CITY AS A LATINO, UH, ORGANIZATION, UM, THAT HAS BEEN BUILT UP FROM THE GROUND UP HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, A FULLY LOCAL FIRM. 
          AND WE ARE GOING THROUGH REALLY, REALLY CHALLENGING TIMES IN OUR CITY. 
          AND, UM, WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO STEP UP OUR CONTRIBUTION TO SMALL BUSINESSES, INCLUDING GIVING P P P LOANS. 
          AND I JUST DON'T THINK NOW IS THE TIME TO CUT A SMALL BUSINESS OUT OF A CONTRACT, UH, THAT PROVIDES THESE CRITICAL SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S TIME TO, UM, TAKE A CHANCE ON A, AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S BEEN PRIMARILY, UH, VOLUNTEER RUN, UM, AND ALSO JUST DOESN'T HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN SAN ANTONIO OF PROVIDING, UH, FOR OUR SENIOR CENTERS AS WE KNOW THEM. 
          UM, UH, I, I, I KNOW THAT THE DELIVERY SERVICES ARE VERY IMPORTANT, UM, BUT, UM, I, I JUST, UM, I THINK THAT THE CENTERS ARE REALLY WHERE, UH, I WANNA SEE OUR COMMUNITY GET BACK TO AND, AND, UM, I THINK RE HAS DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF THAT OVER THE YEARS. 
          SO, UM, I, I HAVE SOME CONCERN QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UM, THE, UH, THE OTHER ITEM, UH, BUT I'LL GET BACK TO THAT ON THE SECOND ROUND. 
          SO, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UH, I BELIEVE THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, A GOOD CHOICE IN, UH, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING FOR, UH, FEEDING THE SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR AUDIT COMMITTEE LOOKED AT THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL THAT WAS GONNA GO OUT, THE R F P. 
          IT SEEMED TO BE AN ORDER. 
          UH, 
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WHEN IT CAME BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY, UH, OUR COMMITTEE FOR REVIEW. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO A, B, OR C WAS. 
          WE JUST LOOKED AT WHAT THE, WHAT THE SCORING MATRIX WAS AS, UH, INDEPENDENTLY AS WE COULD. 
          AND I THINK IT SURPRISED ALL OF US TO HEAR THAT IT WAS MEALS ON WHEELS, A NONPROFIT THAT CAME OUT WITH THE HIGHEST SCORING IN EVERY, EVERY CATEGORY. 
          UH, I LIKE THE IDEA THAT AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S A NONPROFIT IN THIS COMMUNITY, UH, THAT DOES MORE THAN JUST DELIVER, BUT ALSO PROVIDES, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL PROTECTIVE SERVICES. 
          WHEN THEY GO TO SOMEBODY'S HOME, THEY DON'T JUST DROP OFF A MEAL, THEY ASK 'EM, HOW YOU DOING? THEY TALK WITH 'EM A LITTLE BIT. 
          I THINK THAT'S A VERY VALUABLE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE. 
          NOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA ASK THEM TO DELIVER MEALS TO EVERYBODY'S HOME RIGHT NOW, BUT I THINK IT SHOWS THE CHARACTER OF THE ORGANIZATION THAT, UH, THAT WE MAY BE DEALING WITH ON THIS. 
          UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING FAIR, INDEPENDENT, UNBIASED REVIEWS OF EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE CITY, THEN I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING TO GET RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE STAFF. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY UNUSUAL, UH, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY, UH, WE WOULDN'T BE IN TOTAL SUPPORT OF THAT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          SO, THAT'S MY OPINION AS A MEMBER OF THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. 
          UH, AND, YOU KNOW, COMMITTEE MEMBERS COULD HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING IT UP FOR INDIVIDUAL DISCUSSION IF THEY HAD ANY CONCERNS. 
          UH, WE JUST APPROVED IT RECENTLY, AND I DIDN'T HEAR ANY FROM ANY OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AT THAT MEETING. 
          SO, UH, I'M, I'M PRESUMING IT'S A GOOD RECOMMENDATION, AND, AND I HOPE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS FEEL THE SAME WAY, BUT IT'S UP TO US AS A COUNCIL TO MAKE A DECISION, AND THERE ARE ALWAYS DIFFERING IDEAS. 
          UH, SO, UH, I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD DECISION. 
          THAT'S WHERE I'D LIKE TO SEE US GO ON THAT NOW WITH THE, UH, TWO COMMITTEES THAT ARE GONNA BE ADVISORY, UH, WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTION PLAN. 
          UH, I LIKE BOTH OF 'EM. 
          I THINK THAT THERE'S A GOOD ASSORTMENT. 
          IT IS UNFORTUNATE. 
          I'D SAY THAT PROBABLY EVERY DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE A BIT OF REPRESENTATION ON ONE OF THE TWO COMMITTEES, BUT WE WOULD'VE HAD TO SET UP A CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT HAD AT LEAST 11 MEMBERS. 
          I MEAN, IF WE WERE GONNA HAVE ONE FROM EVERY COUNCIL DISTRICT OR, OR MAYBE EVEN MORE, OR IF WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT ON THE BASIS OF WHO LIVES IN A COUNCIL DISTRICT, THEN ARE WE ALWAYS, UH, GETTING THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, CAN DO THE MOST IN, IN WORKING ON THAT PROJECT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS UNFORTUNATE, UH, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT PEOPLE THAT, THAT WERE VETTED VERY CAREFULLY TO ENSURE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THE BEST JOB IN ADVISING US ON WHERE WE SHOULD BE GOING, UH, WITH OUR CLIMATE ACTIVITIES IN THE CITY. 
          I APPRECIATE THE, UH, ADDITION OF THREE OTHER POSITIONS, UH, BECAUSE WHAT I, WHAT I'VE SAID ALL THE TIME, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE ALL STAKES REP STAKEHOLDERS REPRESENTED, UH, IN A COMMITTEE. 
          THAT LITERALLY DOESN'T MEAN EVERY SINGLE BUSINESS OR EVERY SINGLE ORGANIZATION OR EVERY SINGLE INDUSTRY, BUT I THINK WE KNOW THERE ARE ALWAYS KEY COMPONENTS IN WHAT WE DO. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, STAKEHOLDER REPRESENTATION IS VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE WE'RE GONNA EXPAND THAT STAKEHOLDER REPRESENTATION, UH, TO INCLUDE ENERGY, TRANSPORTATION AND, UH, AND GENERAL SCIENCE WITH SOUTHWEST RESEARCH. 
          SO I'D BE, UH, APPROVING BOTH OF THESE AS THEY GO TO THE COUNCIL, UH, FOR OUR APPROVAL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          WE'LL GO NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY, UH, FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER S YEAH, THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UM, ON THE CONTRACT, AND, UH, TROY, Y'ALL, MELODY, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY OR DAY BEFORE, UM, ON THE AWARD. 
          AND TO COUNCILMAN COURAGE THIS POINT, UH, HE'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. 
          THERE WEREN'T ANY COMMENTS, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR CON CONTRACT BECAUSE THEY ARE IDENTIFIED AS A, B, AND C. 
          YOU DON'T SEE WHO THE ACTUAL PROPOSERS ARE. 
          SO THE PROCESS SEEMED TO, UH, GO WELL. 
          UM, BUT WHEN I DID SEE WHO THE PROPOSERS WERE AND YOU KNOW, WHO, UM, DID NOT GET THE CONTRACT VERSUS WHO DID GET THE CONTRACT, I WAS SURPRISED ABOUT, UH, THE NONPROFITS. 
          UM, AND TO COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ'S COMMENTS, I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS. 
          AND, AND I, I'M NOT SURE IF, IF, JOHN, IF YOU CAN GO BACK TO THAT SCORING MATRIX, 
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THAT'D BE GREAT. 
          I, I HAVE, I HAVE SOME, SOME DEEP CONCERNS ABOUT OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UM, BEING ERODED, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY BY, UH, THAT INHERENT ADVANTAGE THAT A NONPROFIT HAS, UH, WHETHER IT'S TAXES OR VOLUNTEERS OR GRANTS FROM THE FEDERAL, STATE, OR EVEN CITY LEVEL, THAT WHEN YOU ADD THAT TO YOUR, TO YOUR REVENUE STREAM, YOU CAN DO DIFFERENT THINGS AND REDUCE PRICES FOR, UH, AN EXACT EXAMPLE LIKE THIS. 
          SO, UM, I, I, I'M JUST, I'M STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THAT MOVING FORWARD AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES ARE ON NONPROFITS BEATING OUT OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND EVEN, EVEN TO LARGE BUSINESSES TO, UH, AN EXTENT. 
          SO, UM, LOOKING AT THIS, UH, SCORING MATRIX, UM, EXPLAIN TO ME THE COST AGAIN ON THAT, TROY. 
          THE, UH, THE, THE PRICING. 
          SURE. 
          THE, THE PRICING ANALYSIS WAS, UM, SOMEWHAT COMPLEX. 
          WHAT I SHOWED Y'ALL WAS AN ABBREVIATED VERSION WITH KIND OF AN AVERAGE OR THE FIVE YEARS OF A PER UNIT. 
          AND IF YOU GO TO THAT, UM, OTHER SLIDE, JOHN, I THINK IT WAS, UM, THERE, THERE YOU GO. 
          SO THIS IS THE AVERAGE PRICING. 
          WHEN THEY PROPOSED, WHEN THE RESPONDENTS PROPOSED THEIR PRICING, THEY PROPOSED ESCALATING PRICING PRICES FOR EACH MEAL FOR EACH YEAR OVER THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT. 
          SO YEAR ONE, ONE, PRICE, TWO, YEAR TWO, ANOTHER PRICE ALL THE WAY THROUGH YEAR FIVE. 
          THEY ALSO PROVIDED, UM, DISCOUNTED PRICING BASED ON THE VOLUME OF THE MEALS PROVIDED. 
          SO THE HIGHER THE VOLUME OF MEALS, THE CHEAPER THEIR PRICE, UM, CHEAPER THEIR PRICE WAS AS YOU WENT FROM 2000 TO 5,000 DAILY MEALS. 
          WHAT I SHOWED HERE REALLY IS OVER THAT FIVE YEAR TERM, TO KIND OF GIVE Y'ALL SOME INSIGHT AND SOME PERSPECTIVE, IS THE AVERAGE PRICE PER MEAL, BOTH FOR THE DAILY MEALS AND THE SHELF STABLE MEALS. 
          UM, BECAUSE I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE REAL ESTATE ON THE SLIDE TO GO THROUGH ALL THE DETAIL. 
          SO BASED ON THE AVERAGE PRICING, MEALS ON WHEELS HAD A DAILY MEAL PRICE OF 4.07 VERSUS RI RICO OF 4.29. 
          AND ON THE, UH, SHELF STABLE MEALS, MEALS ON WHEELS, $4 AND 4 CENTS VERSUS $5 AND 72 CENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SOUNDS COMPLICATED TO ME ON PUTTING THAT TOGETHER, BUT IF WE GO BACK TO THAT, I SAW AGAIN, JOHN, ON THE SCORING MATRIX. 
          I, I KNOW WHAT THE ATTEMPT IS ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, S BETA AND SMALL BUSINESS POINTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, AND THEY DID GET 20 POINTS ON THAT. 
          BUT GOING BACK TO EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, AND QUALIFICATION AND THE, AND THE, UH, TASTE TEST, I, HOW DID, HOW DID WE GET PAST PERFORM? I KNOW HOW WE GOT PAST PERFORMANCE FROM THE CURRENT CONTRACTOR, SO RICO, BUT HOW DID WE GAUGE OR MONITOR OR COLLECT DATA FROM, UM, THE FOOD BANK AND MEALS ON WHEELS FOR PAST PERFORMANCE? I MEAN, WE OBVIOUSLY HAD SOME, UH, ISSUES IN PAST PERFORMANCE WITH CELL RICO, AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER PEOPLE LIKE THEIR FOOD OR NOT, LIKE THEIR FOOD. 
          TO ME, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF TOUGH TO GAUGE A CURRENT CONTRACTOR WHERE THE EASIEST THING YOU CAN COMPLAIN ABOUT IS HOW THE, HOW THE, WHAT KIND OF FOOD THEY'RE GETTING AND HOW IT TASTES. 
          UH, SO HOW DID WE GATHER THAT DATA FROM THE OTHER TWO COMPETITORS ON THIS? TYPICALLY WHAT WE DO IS WE GO OUT AND WE WILL DO, UM, REFERENCE CHECKS OR ASK FOR LETTERS OF REFERENCES. 
          I THINK ON MULES ON WHEELS CASE, WE WENT TO, AND THEY PROVIDED REFERENCES FROM, I BELIEVE IT WAS MEDINA COUNTY, THE, UH, PRESA COMMUNITY CENTER, I BELIEVE, AND THEN ALSO THE KIRBY SENIOR CENTER. 
          UM, AND SO WE DID GO OUT AND DO REFERENCE CHECKS AND INQUIRE FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THEY DO BUSINESS WITH ON THE QUALITY OF THE SERVICES AND THE MILLS THAT THEY WERE PROVIDING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THIS, THIS IS MELODY. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THE MONITORING, UM, AND PERFORMANCE DATA THAT WE LOOK AT FOR THE PROGRAM THAT WE FUND THEIR, UH, SENIOR COMPANION PROGRAM, WHICH HAS, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE HAD VERY GOOD MONITORING RESULTS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AGAIN, I, I'M, I'M CONCERNED THAT, UM, ABOUT THE PRICING AND 'CAUSE THAT IS, EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T 
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HAVE AS MANY POINTS ASSIGNED TO PRICING, IT'S STILL AN IMPORTANT PART OF ANY CONTRACT IS WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE GETTING CHARGED. 
          AND I JUST, UH, I, I'VE GOT AN ISSUE WITH NON-PROFITS COMPETING AGAINST FOR-PROFIT, UH, BUSINESSES OUT THERE. 
          AND THAT, LIKE YOU SAID, TROY INHERENT ADVANTAGE ON THE PRICING BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT REVENUE STREAMS AND, UH, UH, THAT THEY CAN GET THROUGH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, STATE GOVERNMENT, AND EVEN LOCAL GOVERNMENT. 
          MELODY SAID, WE'RE, UH, MEALS ON WHEELS IS GETTING, WHAT, HOW MUCH DID YOU SAY? 50,000 FROM THE CITY, RIGHT? THAT CURRENTLY IT'S A $50,000 CONTRACT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THAT, TO ME, THAT MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE. 
          AND I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT TYPE OF CONTRACT WHERE WE ARE COMPETING BETWEEN THOSE TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESSES. 
          AND, UM, YEAH, I, I JUST THINK THERE'S, THERE'S ADVANTAGES, THERE ADVANTAGES THERE THAT WE NEED TO COMPENSATE SOME KIND OF WAY, UH, FOR THOSE BUSINESSES THAT DON'T GET THOSE ADDITIONAL REVENUE STREAMS INTO THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR BUSINESS. 
          UM, SO IF WE COULD, I DON'T KNOW, GET TOGETHER OR HAVE SOMEBODY TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT, TROY, ON HOW WE PUT THESE TOGETHER AND HOW WE EVALUATE THESE, I, I, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. 
          YEAH, WE, WE CAN DO THAT. 
          I CAN, A COUPLE THINGS. 
          I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT PRICING. 
          THE ONE THING I WOULD POINT OUT ON THE PRICING IS THAT THEY ARE PRETTY CLOSELY ALIGNED IN PRICING. 
          I MEAN, LESS THAN ONE POINT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, ALL THREE OF THE RESPONDENTS. 
          SO THEY ARE PRETTY CLOSE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DO HAVE THAT ADVANTAGE. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT YESTERDAY, AND AS, UM, MENTIONED TO COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ, THAT WE DO TRY TO LEVEL THAT PLAYING FIELD WITH THE VETA POINTS, UM, BECAUSE THAT ADVANTAGE THAT THESE NON-PROFITS HAVE. 
          SO THEY DO NOT RECEIVE THOSE POINTS, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AND SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPPORTUNITIES OUT THERE. 
          YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THANK YOU, TROY. 
          ON, UH, BACK TO THE CLIMATE ACTION, UH, BUSINESS. 
          DOUG, YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT MY COMMENTS HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST ON, YOU KNOW, THIS ALL SOUNDS GREAT AND GETTING THIS GOING. 
          MY COMMENTS AND CONCERNS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WHAT THE PRICE OF THIS IS GONNA BE AND WHAT, WHAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS GONNA BE ON. 
          CAN WE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO DO SOMETHING THAT AFFECTS SURROUNDING AREAS AND, UM, THE CLIMATE AND POURING IN PERHAPS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HAVE, UH, NEGLIGIBLE OR, UM, VERY LITTLE EFFECTS ON, ON WHAT WE'RE MEASURING AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET ACCOMPLISHED. 
          SO THAT'S STILL MY CONCERN, UM, UNTIL WE ACTUALLY START LOOKING AT DOLLARS ON THIS PROGRAM, WHICH AGAIN, WE DON'T REALLY KNOW, UH, WHAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD COST. 
          I, I STILL HAVE A BIG CONCERN ABOUT THAT. 
          SO WITH THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          ERIC, YOU WANTED TO ADD, UH, SOME CLARIFICATION? YEAH, LET ME, I, AND, AND I THINK TROY MAY HAVE COVERED SOME OF IT, BUT LET, LET ME ASK YOU THEN TO JUST KIND OF TALK ABOUT THE PRO, PRO FOR-PROFIT VERSUS NON-PROFIT. 
          'CAUSE THIS HAS BEEN A, AN ISSUE THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TALKED ABOUT ON OTHER SOLICITATIONS, BUT FROM THE OTHER SIDE. 
          AND SO, BEN, CAN YOU, LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST KIND OF MAKE SURE ALL THIS IS IN CONTEXT, BECAUSE IF THERE'S FURTHER CONVERSATION THAT OCCURS, UM, THEN, THEN WE SHOULD DO IT ON A, ON A PATH THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT, UM, EVERY SITUATION. 
          BEN. 
          SURE. 
          THANKS ERIC. 
          UM, TROY, SUMMARIZE IT A LITTLE BIT. 
          I'LL JUST EXPAND A LITTLE BIT. 
          THIS IS AN ISSUE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES, TIMES, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WE ACTUALLY REMOVED THE ABILITY FOR NONPROFITS TO GET, UH, PREFERENCE POINTS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, LOCAL PREFERENCE POINTS, UH, IN ORDER TO REALLY LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. 
          IF YOU LOOK AT THIS SOLICITATION, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE POINTS, UM, JOHN, DO YOU MIND BRINGING UP SLIDE EIGHT FOR ME? JUST REAL QUICK, IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE SCORING MATRIX AGAIN, FOR THIS SOLICITATION, WE'VE GOT 65 POINTS TIED UP WITH EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, QUALIFICATIONS, AND THE PROPOSED PLAN AND TASTE TEST. 
          ONLY 15 POINTS ARE ALLOTTED FOR PRICE. 
          SO IF WE LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, THE NON-PROFITS HAVE AN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY DON'T PAY CERTAIN TAXES 
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AND AREN'T, UH, SUBJECT TO CERTAIN THINGS. 
          IF I TOOK THIS TO AN EXTREME AND I SAID A NON-PROFIT WOULD GET THE FULL 15 POINTS 'CAUSE THEIR PRICING IS BETTER, AND THE FOR-PROFIT COMPANY HAD GOTTEN ZERO POINTS, THE FOR-PROFIT COMPANY THAT GETS THE PREFERENCE POINTS OF 20 UNDER C BETA WOULD STILL BE FIVE POINTS AHEAD OF THE NON-PROFITS BEFORE YOU START TO LOOK AT THE EXPERIENCE, BACKGROUND, AND QUALIFICATIONS AND PROPOSED PLAN AND TEST. 
          SO THROUGH THE PREFERENCE PROGRAMS, THE WAY THE POINTS ARE ALLOTTED ON SOLICITATION, WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE AS EVEN AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, SO YOU CAN SEE, EVEN IN THIS CASE, THE FOR-PROFIT WOULD ARGUABLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT 20 POINTS TIED UP THAT, THAT THE NONPROFITS CAN'T BE, THAT AREN'T, THEY AREN'T ELIGIBLE FOR. 
          SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS A PRETTY, UH, BALANCED APPROACH. 
          UH, WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PROHIBITION IN PLACE ON ANY OF OUR CONTRACTS THAT SAY A NONPROFIT CAN'T BID. 
          UM, IN THIS CASE, HAD WE HAD ONE IN PLACE, YOU WOULD'VE ONLY HAD ONE RESPONDENT, UH, COMING IN. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT IN OTHER, UH, DISCUSSIONS, COMPETITION AND GETTING MORE RESPONDENTS IN AND GETTING MORE PROPOSALS IN TO CREATE MORE COMPETITION HAS BEEN IMPORTANT. 
          SO AGAIN, WE TRY TO TAKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE'RE PUTTING A SOLICITATION TOGETHER, AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POINTS. 
          AND, UM, AS WE BRING THESE FOR THESE HIGH PROFILE ITEMS FORWARD TO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE, THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE TRY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO AND LOOKING AT. 
          SO OVERALL, I THINK WHEN YOU TAKE ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY BALANCED APPROACH. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU, BEN. 
          UM, GO NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER S THANK YOU. 
          I'M, I'M SITTING HERE LISTENING TO, UH, A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW IT IS. 
          WE GOT LOST, LOST ON, ON THIS RABBIT TRAIL ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN NON-PROFITS AND FOR-PROFITS. 
          AND SO, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE, ANDY SEGOVIA, ARE YOU ON HERE? YES, SIR. 
          I'M RIGHT HERE. 
          MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FOR-PROFIT AND A NON-PROFIT IS SIMPLY A DESIGNATION IN THE I R S CODE. 
          UM, PROFITS IN A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS ARE KEPT BY THE OWNERS AND THEY DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT. 
          NON-PROFITS MUST RE MUST ACTUALLY NOT, UM, RETURN DIVIDENDS BACK TO THE OWNERS. 
          THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO RETURN THAT MONEY BACK TO THE COMMUNITY OR REINVEST IT IN THEIR PROGRAMS. AM I MISSING SOMETHING? THAT'S CORRECT. 
          NO, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          CONFIDENCE. 
          SO, A NONPROFIT IN SAN ANTONIO THAT QUALIFIES AS A 5 0 1 C THREE ORGANIZATION IS NOT ALLOWED TO USE THEIR PROFITS TO GO TO VEGAS OR TO GO, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR THE, YOU KNOW, A QUINCEANERA OR WHATEVER THEY WANT TO, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY IT TO THEIR EMPLOYEES AND THEN MAX OUT THAT RETURN BACK TO THEIR PROGRAMS. UH, OR THEY CAN, IF THEY WANT TO DONATE IT TO OTHER NONPROFITS. 
          AM I RIGHT? CORRECT. 
          AND IF, AND IF THEY, AND IF THEY, UH, OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY, UM, GO OUTSIDE THE BOUNDS OF THE RULES, WHICH ARE PRETTY ROBUST, ESTABLISHED BY THE I R S, I MEAN, THEY CAN GET HIT BY THE I I R S IN TERMS OF PENALTIES OR, OR OTHER, OTHER, UH, ENFORCEMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THE OTHER THING THAT I, I KNOW, UH, IS THAT IT REALLY, IT ONLY TOOK ME FIVE MINUTES TO DO WHILE EVERYBODY WAS HERE TALKING, TALKING ABOUT WHAT NONPROFITS ARE, AREN'T, THERE'S A THING CALLED GUIDESTAR AND A CHARITY GUIDE. 
          YOU CAN GO LOOK UP ANY NONPROFIT IN THE UNITED STATES AND LOOK UP THEIR I R S FORM NINE 90, AND YOU CAN SEE WHAT CEOS ARE PAID NAME THE NONPROFIT IN SAN ANTONIO THAT IS A 5 0 1 C THREE, I'LL TELL YOU. 
          UM, I LOOKED UP THE FOOD BANK, RIGHT? UH, WHO'S ONE OF OUR COMPETITORS. 
          EVERY ONE OF THEIR FINANCIALS ARE UP THERE. 
          ALL OF THEIR AUDITS ARE UP THERE. 
          AND THEN THEY'RE GIVEN SCORES BY THESE NONPROFIT SCORING AGENCIES. 
          THE WAY THAT WE IN SAN ANTONIO GET SCORED BY, I DON'T KNOW, RATING AGENCIES. 
          UM, AND THOSE SCORES THEN TELL YOU WHERE THEY RANK AS COMPARED TO OTHER NONPROFITS AROUND THE NATION WITH REGARDS TO TRANSPARENCY, SUSTAINABILITY, UM, YOU KNOW, ASSETS, UH, LEVERAGING LIABILITIES. 
          UM, SO JUST TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, I LOOKED UP MEALS OF WHEELS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THEIR PROGRAM EXPENSE RATIO IS 86%, WHICH MEANS THAT 86% OF ALL MONEY GOES BACK TO FUND THE PROGRAM, NOT TO ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES, RIGHT? IT DOESN'T GO TO RENT, IT DOESN'T GO TO PAYING SOMEONE'S SALARIES, IT DOESN'T GO TO BENEFITS, IT DOESN'T GO TO PAYING HEALTH INSURANCE. 
          IT GOES A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          86% OF THAT GOES TO PAYING, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO GET FED, RIGHT? UH, ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES FOR THIS ORGANIZATION IS 6%. 
          IN OTHER WORDS, OF ALL THE MONEY THAT THEY GET, ONLY 6% OF IT IS GOING TO SALARIES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD QUALIFY AS ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES, LIABILITIES TO ASSETS, WHICH REALLY IS THE MEASURE FOR A NONPROFIT SUSTAINABILITY SCORE 
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IS 7.3%, WHICH PUTS THEM AT PLATINUM SCORE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES FOR, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCE AND RANKINGS FOR NONPROFITS. 
          THEIR C E O GETS PAID $122,000. 
          SOMEBODY ON THIS CALL SAID THAT C THE CEOS, UH, YOU KNOW, AND NONPROFITS MAKE, YOU KNOW, UH, HANDSOME SALARIES, UH, THAT COMPETE WITH, YOU KNOW, FOR-PROFITS AROUND TOWN, $122,000 TO RUN AN ORGANIZATION THAT SERVES THAT MUCH FOOD TO THAT MANY PEOPLE. 
          THAT IS A PAY CUT. 
          UM, IN THE SAME WAY THAT OUR CITY MANAGER, YOU KNOW, IS MANAGING THREE TO 13,000 EMPLOYEES FOR THE BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICE OF $300,000 ANNUALLY. 
          NOBODY GOES TO NONPROFITS TO GET RICH. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, I'LL REMIND EVERYBODY ON THIS CALL THAT NONPROFITS PAY PAYROLL TO SAN ANTONIANS, WHO THEN MUST GO AND PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, AND THEY GO OUT AND THEY PURCHASE PRODUCTS FROM H E B, THEY GO TO THE MOVIES, THEY GO TO ALL THE BUSINESSES IN OUR, UH, IN RESTAURANTS, IN OUR DISTRICTS, AND, UM, THEY BUY PRODUCTS LIKE PAPER AND TOILET PAPER, AND THEY BUY STAPLES AND THEY BUY INK, UH, FOR THEIR PRINTERS, AND THEY PAY C P S AND THEY PAY SAWS LIKE EVERY OTHER BUSINESS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THERE'S ONE THING THEY DON'T PAY, AND THAT IS THEY DON'T PAY A BILL TO UNCLE SAM FOR I R SS TAXES. 
          INSTEAD, THEY TAKE THAT MONEY AND INSTEAD OF POCKETING IT, THEY GIVE IT BACK. 
          SO MAYBE I TOLD ALL OF YOU SOMETHING YOU ALREADY KNOW, BUT ANYBODY OUT THERE WHO'S EVEN CREEPING UP TO THE LINE OF SOMEHOW PITTING NONPROFITS AGAINST FOR-PROFITS BECAUSE FOR-PROFITS, I DON'T KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE MEMBERS OF CHAMBERS OR CAN AFFORD LOBBYISTS. 
          AND IF YOU'RE DOING THAT TO THE DETRIMENT OF THESE NONPROFITS WHO BEG AND PLEAD FOR MONEY PROFESSIONALLY EVERY SINGLE DAY, JUST TO BE ABLE TO PAY THE C P S BILL AND THE SAS BILL, SHAME ON US. 
          AND, AND, UH, SO I, I'M, I'M SUPPORTING THIS, NOT BECAUSE IT'S A NONPROFIT, I'M SUPPORTING THIS BECAUSE THE MATH PENCILED OUT FROM THEIR COMPETITORS. 
          THANKS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER AYA. 
          WE'RE NOW TO, UM, BACK AROUND TO COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, UH, I'M SORRY, COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO, AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          UH, AND, UH, UH, THANK YOU MANNY FOR, UH, GIVING ME A, A GREAT, UH, BUSINESS SCHOOL REVIEW. 
          UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS, THAT WAS REALLY WELL DONE. 
          UH, I REALLY ONLY HAVE WHAT NUMBER ONE, I WANNA THANK, UM, AN SANDOVAL AND, AND, UH, AND, UH, JADA ANDREW SULLIVAN FOR THEIR WORK ON THE, UH, ON THE CLIMATE, UH, ACTION GROUP, UH, ADVISORY COMMITTEE. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UH, I REALLY ONLY HAVE ONE QUESTION REGARDING THE, UH, THE SECOND BRIEFING, WHICH IS, DOES THEY, DOES, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES TRACK HOW MANY OF THE SENIORS THAT THEY SERVE, UH, THAT ARE ALSO PRIMARY CARETAKERS OF A GRANDCHILD? HOW WOULD THE CITY PROVIDE NUTRITION SERVICES IN THAT SCENARIO? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE TRACK THAT, BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP AND SEE IF THAT'S INFORMATION WE KEEP IN OUR, UM, SENIOR STAT DATA SYSTEM. 
          UH, YES, PLEASE. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AND I JUST, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE JUST SEEN QUITE A LOT, AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF, UH, UM, A LOT OF SENIORS THAT ARE GRANDPARENTS TAKING CARE OF, UH, OF GRANDCHILDREN. 
          I THINK THAT THERE'S, THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY THERE TO LEARN ABOUT, UH, HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE, ARE PART OF THE SERVICE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VINNO. 
          UH, WE'LL GO NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, FOLLOWED BY COUNCIL MEMBER V BROWN, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          I THINK YOU'RE STILL ON MUTE. 
          YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE SAID, JOHN, YOU'RE ON MUTE. 
          UM, UH, I SAY THAT WITH LOVE COUNCILMAN COURAGE. 
          UM, SO FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO, UH, THE PROCUREMENT TEAM AND, UH, UH, MELODY'S TEAM FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND DOING ALL, ALL OF THAT WORK. 
          UM, I'M SURE IT WASN'T EASY. 
          UM, A A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, I, I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED TO SEE, WE ONLY HAD, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF THE DAY, THREE CANDIDATES AND, UH, AND TWO OF THEM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SPOKE OF WE'RE NONPROFITS. 
          I THINK AS LONG AS THESE CONTRACTS REMAIN AS BIG AS THEY ARE, AND AS LONG AS WE DON'T HAVE SOME MECHANISM FOR SMALLER BUSINESSES TO COLLABORATE AND POSSIBLY, UH, FIT ON THIS AS A GROUP, OR IF WE DON'T 
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BREAK IT DOWN INTO SOME SMALLER PIECE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP ON, UH, BEING AT THIS SITUATION. 
          AND I THINK IT'S, UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT ODD THAT HERE WE ARE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE OUT OF WORK IN THE FOOD SERVICE INDUSTRY THAT WE ONLY HAD, YOU KNOW, THREE BIDS TO, TO CONSIDER. 
          SO I THINK THAT, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S NOT SOMETHING, UM, THAT WE COULD CHANGE IN THE NEXT WEEK. 
          UH, BUT I THINK IT, IT, IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW WE STRUCTURE CONTRACTS, UH, GOING FORWARD. 
          UM, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE R F P THAT IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, CERTAIN TYPES OF BUSINESS MODELS WOULD HAVE, WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED. 
          SO I'M, I'M NOT SURE, UM, I, I CAN SEE THE POINTS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING BROUGHT UP ABOUT THAT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO BE FORTHRIGHT AND MAKE A POLICY IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          AND I APPRECIATE BEN'S EXPLANATION OF, OF THE SCORING AND HOW REALLY THE POINTS ON THE, UM, ON THE PRICE WOULD NOT HAVE, UH, ON THE PRICING WOULD NOT HAVE REALLY CHANGED THE, THE OUTCOME. 
          UM, ONE THING I DID WANTED, I DID WANT TO ALSO SHARE, WELL, CLEARLY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I WANNA SHARE. 
          UM, THE ONLY CONCERN I WOULD HAVE IS IF WE HAVE, IF WE'RE SELECTING A NONPROFIT THAT DEPENDS ON VOLUNTEERS TO CONDUCT THE WORK AND TO DELIVER, UM, IS THAT, DOES THAT PUT US AT RISK? OR DOES THAT MEAN THEY MAY NOT BE LIKELY TO ACTUALLY DELIVER? THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE OF THE CONCERNS I WOULD HAVE. 
          UM, BUT THE OTHER THING I DO WANNA SAY IS, YOU KNOW, C RICO KNOWS THAT THIS CONTRACT HAS BEEN COMING UP. 
          THEY'VE OBVIOUSLY PUT THEIR NAME IN, UH, THEY HAVE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS, AND CERTAINLY FROM, UH, ONE OF THE SENIOR CENTERS IN MY DISTRICT. 
          I HEAR IT EVERY TIME I, I VISIT THAT PLACE. 
          SO, UNLIKE, UNLIKE COUNCILMAN GONZALEZ, WHO REALLY MISSES THE SENIORS, UM, I KNOW I HAVE LIKE, A LITTLE BIT OF DREAD WHEN I GO TO THAT SENIOR CENTER BECAUSE AS MUCH AS I LOVE THOSE SENIORS, I KNOW I'M GONNA TO HEAR ABOUT THE CEL RICO FOOD, UH, WHEN I GET THERE. 
          AND THAT ULTIMATELY IS NOT WHAT YOU WANT FROM WHOEVER'S GOING TO PROVIDE THE FOOD, AND IT SHOULD NOT HAVE CAUGHT THEM OFF GUARD. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN VERY POLITE TO ME. 
          BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT AND HOW OUR SENIORS FEEL ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE CUSTOMER AT THE END OF THE DAY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRA THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I DID WANNA JUST TURN BACK AROUND AND, UH, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER ELAS FOR ALL OF THAT INFORMATION, BECAUSE IF, IF THERE IS A, A BIG ISSUE WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES, MAYOR, I THINK THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, OUR ECONOMIC REPORTS DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, AND THEN THIS IS A, SOME, A LARGER POLICY ISSUE IF IT'S TRULY A CONCERN. 
          BUT I THINK WHAT'S BEEN LAID OUT HERE AND WHAT'S BEEN LAID OUT IN THE PAST, WE CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          I DID WANT TO SAY, UM, MY TEAM HAS SENT ME EMAILS, JUST FOLLOW UP EMAILS FROM, UH, THE WORK THAT WE DID DO AND FROM, UH, THE D H SS BACK IN OCTOBER 1ST, 2019, AND THEN THE END OF OCTOBER OF 2019, UM, AT TWO DIFFERENT, UH, SENIOR CENTERS THAT WE DID HAVE ISSUE WITH, UH, THE, THE COLD FOOD THAT WAS ON A FRIDAY AND A MONDAY, AND THEN OTHER FOOD THAT WAS DELIVERED AT INAPPROPRIATE TEMPERATURES. 
          BUT WE DID SHARE IT WITH STAFF, SO IT WASN'T AN ISSUE THAT OUR SENIORS DID, UH, SERIOUSLY HAVE. 
          UM, WITH THIS, WITH THIS MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND THEN GOING BACK TO THE, UM, ADVISORY GROUPS, THE TECHNICAL AND THE CLIMATE EQUITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, SO POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF WE GO MOVE THROUGH WITH THIS AND WE MOVE FORWARD, IS THIS JUST, IS THIS, UM, ARE THESE COMMITTEES IN PERPETUITY OR ARE THEY JUST A ONE AND THEN WE MOVE ON? OR IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THIS TO ME. 
          YES, COUNCILMAN, UH, THESE ARE, ARE COMMITTEES, UM, THAT WILL WE'LL MOVE FORWARD, UM, UM, FOR, UNTIL IT'S DECIDED THAT THERE, THAT THERE'RE NO GUILT LONGER NEEDED, BUT, UM, THEY WILL BE THERE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY AS WE, WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PLAN. 
          BUT THERE'S NO SUNSET PERIOD. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO WE, JUST LIKE, WE MADE CHANGES IN ADDING SOME INDIVIDUALS O ON, WE CAN STILL MAKE CHANGES DOWN THE WAY IF WE SEE THAT THERE IS SOME ISSUES, UM, OR IF THEY'RE, UH, PUTTING PEOPLE ON OR PEOPLE DECIDE TO MOVE OFF OF THIS COMMITTEE AS WELL. 
          CORRECT? CORRECT. 
          GREAT. 
          BECAUSE, UM, TO MY COLLEAGUES' POINTS, THERE ARE 20 
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MEMBERS IN THE TECHNICAL AND COMMUNITY COMMITTEE AND 10 IN THE CLIMATE EQUITY COMMITTEE. 
          SO THERE'S ENOUGH REPRESENTATION TO HAVE SOMEBODY FROM EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT I KNOW RIGHT NOW. 
          WE ALSO WANT SPECIFIC CATEGORIES, AND I AM ALL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT BECAUSE WE WANT THAT REPRESENTATION, BUT THERE ARE 30 PEOPLE THAT ARE PART OF THIS, SO THERE SHOULD BE MEMBERS FROM EVERY SINGLE WHO LIVE IN EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL DISTRICT PART OF THIS. 
          SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE EQUITY OFFICE WITH TINA, OUR CITY CLERK, UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT REPRESENTATION IS THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCILWOMAN. 
          THIS IS DAVID MCCAREY. 
          WHAT, WHAT I WANTED TO SHARE WAS THAT PART OF THE STRATEGY HERE WAS TO GO CITYWIDE AT LARGE POSITIONS. 
          AND OF COURSE, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT EQUITY, YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO NARROW IT DOWN TO GEOGRAPHICS. 
          IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE THAT BALANCE, UH, IF WE CAN, BUT THAT'S WHY WE REACHED OUT AGAIN, AS, AS I WAS EXPLAINING EARLIER FOR THAT WIDER NET, BUT BY DESIGN, BASED ON WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO, TO US TO EXECUTE BASED ON DECEMBER OF 2019, THAT PLAN WAS TO BE AT LARGE. 
          SO THERE WERE CERTAIN PARAMETERS THAT WE WERE GIVEN TO BEGIN WITH. 
          SO IF THOSE CHANGE, THEN QUITE NATURALLY WE CAN COME BACK, UH, WITH SOME OF THOSE CHANGES. 
          BUT, UH, JUST WANTED Y'ALL TO ALL KNOW THAT THE INTENT WAS TO GO AFTER THE TALENT AND THOSE TALENTS IF THEY COULD SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          IDEALLY, UH, THAT'S WHAT WE DID, BUT THAT'S WHY WE WENT BACK OUT A SECOND AND A THIRD TIME TO GET THERE. 
          AND THAT'S ALSO WHEN WE NOTICED THAT WE WERE MISSING THE ENERGY AND AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY. 
          SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT WAS THE INTENT. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          AND I BELIEVE THAT TALENT IS CITYWIDE, AND IT'S IN ALL CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS AS WELL. 
          WE'LL HELP YOU DIG DEEPER NEXT TIME AS WELL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VIRON. 
          UM, UH, ERIC, YOU WANNA JUMP IN? YEAH, JUST REAL QUICK, UH, MAYOR, THERE'S A COUPLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE MADE THE COMMENTS, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT, UH, THAT MELANIE MENTIONED IT EARLIER. 
          UM, THE, THE, THE CONTRACT WITH MEALS FOR WHEELS. 
          UH, WE ARE NOT CONTRACTING TO HAVE VOLUNTEERS DO THE SERVICE. 
          UH, MEALS FOR WHEELS WILL HIRE INDIVIDUALS, THEY'LL UTILIZE EMPLOYEES, BUT, BUT OUR SERVICE THAT WE'RE INTENDING TO, OR THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THE CONTRACT WITH DOES NOT, UH, RELY UPON, UH, VOLUNTEERS TO, TO DO THAT WORK. 
          AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          THANKS, ERIC. 
          UH, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S EVERYONE, UM, WHO'S QUEUED UP TO SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS. WE DO HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT, UH, LET ME JUST, UM, WRAP UP WITH A COUPLE OF COMMENTS. 
          JOHN. 
          IT'S GONNA BE HELD OVER UNTIL TOMORROW, SO NOT TODAY. 
          OKAY. 
          NO EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          WE'RE GONNA WAIT FOR TOMORROW. 
          UM, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK JADA AND ANNA, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, AND COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREWS SULLIVAN FOR THE WORK ON, UH, A PRETTY GRUELING, UH, INTERVIEW PROCESS. 
          I KNOW IT'S TOUGH, UH, THIS FINE, THE PROPER EXPERTISE, BUT ALSO REPRESENTATION THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AND I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A TESTAMENT TO THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON THE OVERALL CAP. 
          UM, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME, UH, ATTENTION AND SOME KUDOS FOR THE CREATION OF THE CAP, UH, MAINLY BECAUSE, UH, IT'S ROOTED IN CLIMATE EQUITY AND THE IDEA OF, UH, OVERCOMING SOME HISTORICAL, UM, DISPARITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY ROOTED, UH, IN THE FOUNDATION OF THE PLAN, NOT AS AN ADD-ON. 
          AND SO, UH, THE WORK THAT ALL OF YOU HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS ON THIS, I THINK HAS MANIFESTED IN THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UH, I DO LOOK FORWARD TO, TO WORKING WITH THEM, UH, ALONG WITH THREE MEMBERS THAT ARE GONNA BE ADDED, UH, FOR US TO RATIFY ON OCTOBER 8TH. 
          UH, BUT IT'S GOOD WORK ALL AROUND AND A CONTINUATION OF ALL THE EFFORTS IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS. 
          UM, I THINK EVERY, EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE SAID HAS BEEN SAID ABOUT THE, UH, CONTRACT. 
          UH, I CONCUR WITH THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. 
          I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MIND OUR ROLES WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE CALLING OF BALLS AND STRIKES, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LIVING UP TO THE CRITERIA THAT ARE SET IN THESE RFPS AND NOT MODIFYING THEM AS THEY GO ALONG. 
          UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, I, I APPRECIATE THE, THE IN-DEPTH REVIEW, UH, OF THE PROCESS. 
          AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, TO, UH, ACCEPTING THAT CONTRACT AS WE GET, UH, TO A COUNCIL SESSION. 
          SO, UH, THE TIME IS NOW 3 55, UH, ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 30TH, UH, 2020, UH, EXECUTIVE SITES, EXCUSE ME, EXECUTIVE SESSION ITEMS THAT WERE POSTED FOR TODAY WILL BE CARRIED OVER UNTIL TOMORROW, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1ST, AND WILL BE CONSIDERED AT ANY TIME DURING TOMORROW'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING. 
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UH, SO AT THIS POINT, OUR, UH, MEETING OUR B SESSION IS NOW ADJOURNED. 
          OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION IS RECESSED. 
          THANKS EVERYBODY. 
          PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          OH, AND, UH, ALSO, AGAIN, DON'T FORGET WE HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT TO BE HEARD. 
          FIVE O'CLOCK.
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