* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:05] ALL RIGHT, WE'RE LIVE. GO AHEAD. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN. MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE, AND I AM THE CHAIRWOMAN OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER. I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICED MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION. MAY WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE CONDUCT THE [Roll Call] ROLL CALL? COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. HERE. COMMISSIONER JONES. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER KAMAN. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER, WE PRESENT. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? HERE. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? HERE. COMMISSIONER WHITE. HERE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? HERE. COMMISSIONER SY. UH, HIT, HIT A MUTE AGAIN, SIR. THERE YOU GO. OH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. OKAY. WELL, I'LL NOTE FOR THE RECORD, HE'S THERE. HE'S WORKING ON HIS AUDIO ISSUES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. LET'S SEE. DON'T FORGET TO HIT UNMUTE, SIR. NOT MUTE. TRY YOUR AUDIO AGAIN. COMMISSIONER WI PRESENT. THERE YOU GO. SORRY. PRESENT. UH, UM, COMMISSIONER SIPES. TRY IT AGAIN. I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? THERE YOU GO. YES. YES. PERFECT. OKAY. AND CHAIR MCGEE PRESENT. OKAY. A QUORUM IS PRESENT, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. UM, MAY WE PLEASE REVIEW THE MEETING FORMAT TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19. THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE. THESE MEETING STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE COVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW DO SAN ANTONIO.GOV/DSB OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT 2 0 2 0 6 5 4 8 3 TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENTS. NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES. THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING. STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT. STAFF, UH, WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED IF ASKED FOR BY THE COMMISSION AND STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL. LASTLY, FOR THOSE THAT SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALLBACK, WE WILL CALL 'EM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENT. SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED. THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT, ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, MAY WE PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND ANY POSTPONE OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS? YES, MA'AM. FOR THE SAKE OF EXPEDIENCY, I'LL JUST GO BY THE NUMBERS AND GO THROUGH EACH OF THE DIFFERENT HEARING TYPE. SO POSTPONED. TODAY WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER THREE. POSTPONED IS ITEM NUMBER THREE ON COMBINED HEARING. NUMBER ONE, IT'S ITEM 4, 8, 10, 11, 14, AND 16. AND ON INDIVIDUAL, IT'S ITEM 1, 6 2, 5, 7, 9, 12, 13, 15, AND 17. DOES THAT SOUND CORRECT TO EVERYONE? BUT ANY COMMISSIONERS? EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH THAT? OKAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. UM, MAY WE, UM, PROCEED WITH, UH, COMBINED HEARING [Items 4, 8, 10, 11, 14 & 16] NUMBER ONE, PLEASE. [00:05:07] ALL RIGHT. BEGINNING WITH COMBINED HEARING, NUMBER ONE. THE FIRST ITEM FOR CONSIDERATION IS ITEM NUMBER FOUR, TO REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO C ONE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR AN RV PARK WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME THAT WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, ONE IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET, NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND THIS IS LOCATED AT 2050 RIGSBY AVENUE. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO C TWO S A H O D WITH SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A BINGO PARLOR. GENERALLY LOCATED AT 36 25 WEST AVENUE. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUT OUTSIDE 200 FEET, AND NO RESPONSE FROM JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR KEYSTONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 10, A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I TWO TO C TWO. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT SEVEN 12 EGINE AVENUE, THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM GOVERNMENT HILL ALLIANCE. ITEM NUMBER 11, TO REZONE FROM A E THREE F WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR WAREHOUSING TO L WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE REMAIN LOCATED AT 4 0 3 CRAFT STREET. THERE WERE NINE NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND JEFFERSON HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 14 TO REZONE FROM C THREE I, H ONE A, H O D, AND C THREE A H O D TO L I H ONE A H O D, AND L A H O D GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 11 600 BLOCK OF CROSSWINDS WAY. THERE WERE 16 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. ITEM NUMBER 16, TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C TWO SS WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A HOSPITAL WITH A HELLA STOP GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 7,900 BLOCK OF WEST LOOP. 1604 NORTH. THERE WERE 20 NOTICES MAILED, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM NORTHWEST CROSSING HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION. MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ITEMS NUMBERED 4 8, 10, 11 14, AND 16. MS. COMMISSIONER SIPES. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AND A SECOND FROM COMMISSIONER SIPES. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SITES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, UH, AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 11 TO ZERO. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LET'S BEGIN WITH OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS PLEASE. [1. 20-5735 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700173 S ERZD (Council District 8)] ITEM NUMBER ONE AS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO C TWO S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION SYSTEM WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT 1 6 8 2 1 KYLE FIELD PARKWAY. THERE WERE SIX NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE REQUESTED C TWO S MAINTAINS THE BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND ADDS A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR CONSIDERATION OF A WIRELESS [00:10:01] COMMUNICATION SYSTEM. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND WE DO HAVE SAWS ON THE LINE FOR THE SAW REPORT. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE SAS PLEASE? THIS IS COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I'M RECUSING FROM THIS CASE. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. LET THE RECORD SHOW SHE'S MUTING HER CAMERA AND HER MICROPHONE. THANK YOU. UH, THE SAS REPRESENTATIVE, PLEASE. YES. UH, MICHAEL ESCALANTE WITH SAS AQUIFER PROTECTION AND EVALUATION SECTION. WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION TO ALLOW FOR A A 194 FOOT MONOPOLE TELECOMMUNICATION TOWER LOCATED AT 16 8 2 1 PARKWAY, THE 0.2809 ACRE PAD SITE LOCATED WITHIN AN UNDEVELOPED 1.52 ACRE PROPERTY. A SUBMITTED SITE PLAN PROPOSES 12% PREVIOUS COVER FOR THE OVERALL PROPERTY, NO FUEL POWERED BACKUP GENERATORS, NOR SHALL OUTSIDE STORAGE OF CHEMICALS BE PERMITTED ON SITE. THOSE RECOMMENDS APPROVAL FOR THE ZONE. THANK YOU. MAY WE, UH, HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. THIS IS VINCE INGER REPRESENTING VERIZON WIRELESS. CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES. OKAY. I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION. GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL AGAIN, ALBEIT ON TELECONFERENCE, BUT A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT STAFF WAS GONNA LOAD FOR ME, UH, TALK ABOUT THIS PROPOSED VERIZON SITE, UM, IN THE NORTH PART OF CAL SEAL PARKWAY. UM, THAT COULD BE LOADED. VINCENT. THERE'S GOING TO BE, THE PRESENTATION IS ALREADY UP ON SCREEN AND YOU ARE GONNA HAVE A DELAY. SO IF YOU JUST SPEAK AND WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR THE NEXT SLIDE, JUST LET US KNOW. SURE. UM, I'M GONNA GO TO SLIDE TWO. UH, THE PROPOSED VERIZON SITE IS, UH, THERE'S A LOCATION MAP THERE SHOWING NO SURROUNDING LAND USES. MOST OF ITS VACANT, UNDEVELOPED, THE CLOSEST SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S ABOUT 1200 FEET FROM THE SITE ITSELF. UH, SLIDE THREE IS BASICALLY SELF-EXPLANATORY. THE REASONS IS TO SUPPORT, LIKE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IN THIS TELECONFERENCE. WE'RE CALLING FROM OUR IPHONES AND STUFF LIKE THAT. THE VERIZON, OVER THE PERIOD OF LAST MARCH, UH, IS EXPERIENCED ABOUT 25 INCREASE IN DATA VOLUME. NO, NO KIDDING. WE'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO, TO PATCH IN SOME INFRASTRUCTURE COVER SOME CAPACITY. THIS IS NEEDED FOR WORK AT HOME AND SCHOOLS, UH, AND COVID RELATED COVERAGE. IT ALSO TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF THE AREAS TO THE NORTHWEST IN, UH, LOCK TERRA LOCK TERRA DEVELOPMENT. A LOT OF ROOFTOPS OVER THERE DO NOT HAVE COVERAGE. WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE RF IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, ONE THING THAT I HAVE LATER IN MY PRESENTATION IS A LETTER FROM THE TEXAS STATE SENATE, UH, TRYING TO ASK EVERYBODY TO EXPEDITE ALL CRITICAL WIRELESS FACILITIES. UM, U D C CODE REGULATIONS. VERIZON, UH, THE SITE COMPLIES WITH EVERYTHING IN THE U D C AND 3 5 3 8 5. IT, IT MERELY HAS TO COME THROUGH THIS, THIS PROCESS BECAUSE IT IS AN E R Z D LOCATED ON COMMERCIAL. UH, AND THE COVERAGE BENEFITS AND IMPACTS ARE, ARE LISTED RIGHT THERE. IMPROVES 9 1 1 AND FIRST RESPONDERS COVERAGE. SO THE NEXT SLIDE IT TALKS ABOUT, UH, ACTUALLY SHOWS THE ZONING CATEGORIES IN THE AREA. YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON C TWO. YOU CAN SEE ALL THAT, UH, OTHER UNDEVELOPED, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA, UH, VACANT PROPERTY, EAST AND WEST OF US. IT'S A PRETTY GREAT LOCATION FOR A WIRELESS FACILITY. NEXT SLIDE IS THE CURRENT COVERAGE MAP SLIDE, THE RF THAT WE ALWAYS PRESENT TO YOU GUYS. UM, VERY IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THIS IN THIS PERSPECTIVE. GREEN IS IN VEHICLE COVERAGE ONLY. YOU CAN SEE TO THE NORTH AREA THE SMALL TRIANGLE THAT'S CALCIUM NORTH, UH, WHERE THEY HAVE COMPLETE ONLY IN IN IN VEHICLE COVERAGE. UM, WE JUST FOR THIS REPRESENTATION, WE'VE TURNED THE CALCIUM C P S SITE OFF. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THAT DOESN'T OVERLAP. SO THE FUTURE ILLUSTRATION IS, THE NEXT ONE IS CURRENT COVERAGE GOING TO ON AIR COVERAGE. ON THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, YOU CAN SEE WHAT CALCIUM NORTH IN ITSELF JUST PICKS UP. SO IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL ROOFTOPS THAT CAN HAVE IN-BUILDING COVERAGE IN THAT AREA. ALSO FOR 9 1 1 AND FIRST RESPONDERS, UM, SETS A HUGE BENEFIT TO THIS AREA. UH, THE FOLLOWING SLIDE AFTER THAT, WE ARE BEHIND, I GUESS ON THE VIDEO, BUT, UH, THAT'S A LETTER FROM, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE, UH, COMMERCE DIVISION, CHAIRMAN OF THE EDUCATION DIVISION AT TEXAS STATE SENATE. UM, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN GRANTED SOME FUNDS, UH, TO IMPROVE THE COVERAGE AT SCHOOLS ALL OVER THE STATE. UM, AND THEY'RE URGING EVERYBODY TO EXPEDITE EVERYTHING, UH, THESE [00:15:01] CRITICAL FACILITIES. UH, THAT LAST SLIDE IS JUST A THANK YOU REMINDER OF HOW IMPORTANT THESE COMMUNICATION NETWORKS ARE TO US. UM, WE SEE THE URGENCY NOW IN THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS, HOW VERY IMPORTANT THEY ARE TO JUST NORMALIZE OUR LIVES. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS IF YOU'LL, UH, STAND BY, PLEASE. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT STAFF? NO, MA'AM. NO VOICEMAILS OR LIVE CALLERS? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONER ROMERO. I DO NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? I HAD A QUESTION FOR SAS. UH, MR. ESCALANTE? YES. UH, GO AHEAD. I'M SORRY. UH, WHAT'S THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER? THE TRACT IS ALLOWED, UH, FOR THE 1.52 ACRES, IT'S, UH, AT 12%. IS THAT THE 12, YOU'RE GIVING THEM THE 12%, OR IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE? UH, IT, IT'S, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE BASED ON A, UH, SUBMITTED SITE PLAN. OKAY. SO THEY'RE ALLOWED A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT THEIR SUBMITTED SITE PLAN IS ALLOWING, UH, IS ONLY ASKING FOR 12%, AND YOU'RE AGREEING TO THAT, UH, ? YES. IS THAT, DID I STATE THAT CORRECTLY, SIR? RIGHT. UH, SA SAS IS, UH, UH, BRING TO THE, UH, TO THE, UH, 12% THAT THE APPLICANT. OKAY. UH, BASED OFF THE SITE PLAN THAT THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. AND THEN A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, MA'AM. UH, SO YOU ARE ALLOWED A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOU REQUESTED 12% IMPERVIOUS COVER, AND YOU, YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT? YEAH, THAT'S ALL WE NEED. WE'RE ACTUALLY JUST PUTTING A DRIVEWAY IN THE, IN THE SITE ITSELF, BECAUSE IT'S VERY SMALL. WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME WATER QUALITY BUFFER STRIPS IN THERE. EVENTUALLY, WE ASSUME THE OWNER'S GONNA DEVELOP THE TRACK OUT, BUT AT THIS POINT, IT'S ALL GONNA BE JUST US ON THERE. OKAY. UH, THAT'S FINE. SO THEN A QUESTION TO STAFF. GO AHEAD, MA'AM. SO DOES THE IMPERVIOUS COVER REMAIN ONLY AT 12% NO MATTER WHO COMES BY TO DEVELOP IT AFTER THIS? OR DO THEY ASSIGNED NEW IMPER, NEW AMOUNTS OF IMPERVIOUS COVER? SO HE'S ONLY TAKING 12% OUT OF A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO THAT REMAINING CAN BE, UM, REQUESTED OUT WHATEVER THAT OWNER DEVELOPS IN THE FUTURE. UM, SHAWS IS THE ONE THAT ADMINISTERS THIS PROCEDURE, SO I WOULD DEFER TO THAT ANSWER THEN. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO BACK TO SAS. SO, YEAH, SO, SO IN THE, IN THE FUTURE, IF, IF THE DEVELOPER OR I, I GUESS, A FUTURE DEVELOPER DECIDES TO DEVELOP, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE CELL, UH, POWER PAD SITE, UH, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD PROBABLY, UH, PERHAPS HAVE THE COMPANY GET IT REZONED, UH, IN ORDER TO CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS COVER FOR THE, JUST FOR THE 1.52 ACRES. SO THAT, SO THE 12% THAT THEY'RE TAKING IS TAKING IT FOR THE ENTIRE S THE ENTIRE LAND BOUNDARY. SO, UH, UH, VERIZON IS NOT THE OWNER OF THE LAND. THEY'RE A LEASER OF THE LAND OR LEASE. RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LANDOWNER HIMSELF ISN'T LEFT TO HAVE TO COME BACK. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE HE IS, IF YOU ONLY TAKE THE 12% IMPERVIOUS COVER, SO THEN THE LANDOWNER HAS TO COME BACK TO REZONE TO RECAPTURE THE, ANY MORE REMAINING IMPERVIOUS COVER THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT. DO I HAVE THAT CORRECT? UH, HEY, I'M GONNA KIND OF CLARIFY. SO THE REVIEW SAW, REVIEW RELATED TO THE IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITATIONS ONLY APPLIES TO THE SUBJECT SITE THAT'S, UH, UNDER THE REZONING. ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S DEVELOPED OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA WOULD HAVE ITS OWN REVIEW, WHETHER IT IS A REZONING CASE OR IF IT'S JUST A, A REVIEW OF A BUILDING PERMIT. BUT THE PER THE PERCENTAGE LIMITATION RELATED TO THIS REPORT IS ONLY RELATED TO THIS [00:20:01] PARTICULAR SITE AND ONLY RELATED TO THAT, THE PARTICULAR MEETS AND BOUNDS OF THAT TRACK. CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT. AND I THINK, UH, MIKE, YOU CAN ALSO, UH, CHIME IN ON THAT AS WELL, RIGHT? YEAH. LOOK, APPLICATION, IT WAS JUST FOR THE 0.2809 ACRES. UH, SO THE 12% WOULD ONLY APPLY, UH, BASICALLY THE DRIVEWAY AND THE, I THINK IT'S A 40 BY 60 PAD SITE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY CONCERN. 12% IS NOT VERY MUCH FOR OUT OF A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THEN THAT THAT RESIDES WITH THOSE MEETS AND BOUNDS PARTICULAR TO THIS CASE. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I NEED TO THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER ROMERO. OKAY, THANKS. AND NOW I DO JUST WANNA CLARIFY SOMETHING. UM, I JUST WANNA REPEAT WHAT KATT SAID. UH, WE, WE ARE NOT SAYING FOR THE RECORD THAT THE REMAINDER OF THIS PROPERTY IS ALLOWED TO HAVE 100% IMPERVIOUS COVER. THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SAW, UH, JUST LIKE KAT SAID, UM, WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO DEVELOP THAT, THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH SAW. I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD THAT ABSOLUTELY NO MATTER WHAT GOES IN THERE, THEY GET A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPERVIOUS COVER. UM, MIKE, UM, IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S CORRECT. AND FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, WHEN, WHEN THEY COME IN WITH A, UH, PROPOSED SITE PLAN, UH, IT, IT, IT, IT WILL BE, BE LIMITED TO, TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FIRST COVER BASED ON THE LAND USE. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT MADAM CHAIR, I THINK EVERYBODY STARTS OUT WITH A HUNDRED PERCENT IMPERVIOUS. THEN DEPENDING ON THE PROJECT, THEY WILL SAY, WE ONLY INTEND TO USE THIS AMOUNT PER, AND THE SASS WILL AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH THAT AMOUNT. THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS SAYING FOR THAT TRACT OF LAND PER MEETS AND BOUNDS, THEY'RE ONLY ASKING FOR THE 12% OF WHAT THEY COULD HAVE, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO, I, I, WE'RE SORT OF GOING AROUND HERE, BUT THE OWNERS STILL HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT COMING INTO SAWS. OKAY. UM, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, UH, FOR A BIT IN MIKE. UH, YES, PLEASE CHIME AS WELL. UM, SO WHEN PROPERTY COMES INTO THE CITY, UH, INTO THE CITY LIMITS, IT'S GIVEN A CATEGORY CLASSIFICATION, WHICH IS A MAX PERCENTAGE, DEPENDING UPON ITS VIEW. SO NOT ALL PROPERTIES ARE GIVEN A HUNDRED PERCENT. SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A 65% LIMITATION, UH, FOR, UH, FOR, FOR COMMERCIAL. SO, UM, IT, IT WILL DEPEND ON THE TYPE OF USE THAT IT COMES IN. SO IT'S GIVEN A CATEGORY CLASSIFICATION AND A MAX PERCENTAGE. THEN AS CASES ARE REVIEWED THROUGH A REZONING PROCESS OR A BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS, THEY'RE THEN REASSESSED BASED ON THAT PROPOSED USE BY SAW TO DETERMINE WHAT THE FINAL IMPERVIOUS COVER LIMITATION IS. OKAY. SO, UM, COMMISSIONER ROMERO , THANK YOU. AND IF CITIZENS WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, IT'S ALL IN THE WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE, BUT EVEN THE WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE IS INTERPRETED BY SAWS. SO, UM, WE DEFINITELY CAN'T MAKE PROJECTIONS HERE ON WHAT, UM, SOME PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE WITH SOME PROJECT IN THE FUTURE WOULD HAVE. SO, JUST LOOKING AT THIS ONE, UM, FOR ITEM NUMBER ONE, I RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH ALL SAWS. RECOMMENDATIONS. SECOND MCDANIEL. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, COMMISSIONERS, ANY COMMENTS? OKAY. C N NONE. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JOE. NEXT ONE. YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN. YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYKES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO AND WE SHOULD JUST NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE CAN COME BACK. IT'S BACK ON. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, [2. 20-5313 (Continued from 09/01/2020) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700122 (Council District 1)] ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX A H O D TO R [00:25:01] F FOUR D LOCATED AT 1526 WEST MISS OTO AVENUE, THERE WERE 25 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. 11 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET, 27 RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE 200 FEET. AND JEFFERSON NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED. THE R SIX SPACE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES TO THE EAST, WEST, AND NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES. IT IS ALSO CONSISTENT WITH THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN OBJECTIVE TO ENCOURAGE NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE COMMUNITY'S CHARACTER. THE CURRENT COMMUNITY'S CHARACTER IS A MAXIMUM OF TWO DWELLING UNITS PER LOT. THEREFORE, THE ALTERNATE STAFF HAS AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R SIX CD WITH A MAXIMUM, WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS. THE REQUESTED R FOUR M RMM FOUR, EXCUSE ME, WHICH WOULD INTRODUCE EXCESSIVE EXCESSIVE DENSITY THAT IS NOT CURRENTLY ESTABLISHED IN THE AREA. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION OF R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, THIS IS, THIS IS CHARLES RILEY. UH, I'M THE APPLICANT IN THIS MATTER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. MAY I PROCEED WITH, UH, PRESENTING WHY, WHY I THINK THIS IS A, A GOOD PLAN FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD? YES, PLEASE. ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD. SO, AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW THAT THE, THE ZONING COMMISSION HAS BEEN VERY PATIENT WITH ME. UH, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME REALLY, UH, HANDLING ONE OF THESE TYPES OF ZONING MATTERS. SO, LEARNED A LOT THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND I REALLY DO THINK THIS PROCESS WORKED THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO IN THAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSION WAS, WAS NICE ENOUGH TO, TO GRANT US SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO MEET WITH THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE AND THE NEIGHBORS. AND THOSE MEETINGS REALLY LED TO, UH, A LOT OF GOOD BACK AND FORTH. WE CHANGED OUR PLAN SUBSTANTIALLY TO, TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS. UH, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE OPPOSITION EMAILS WERE SENT BEFORE THE NEIGHBORS HAD EVEN SEEN OUR PLAN. WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE WERE ALREADY PLANNING FOR PLENTY OF OFF STREET PARKING KNOWING THAT IT WAS A NARROW STREET AND NOT WANTING TO CONTRIBUTE TO ANY CONGESTION ON THAT STREET. AND, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST ONE NEIGHBOR, UH, CHANGED HER OPPOSITION TO, UH, TO DECIDE TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT ONCE SHE SAW ALL THE STEPS WE WERE TAKING TO, TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, YOU KNOW, SHE NOTES IN HER, AND THIS IS ANNIE MAYS, UH, EMAIL THAT, YOU KNOW, A A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, UH, COULD BE BUILT RIGHT NOW WITH ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPACE AND WOULD DO A WHOLE LOT MORE TO, UH, TO CAUSE CONGESTION ON THAT STREET, UH, LET ALONE ALL THE OTHER STEPS WE'VE TAKEN THAT I'M GONNA DESCRIBE HERE IN JUST A MOMENT. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ADDRESSED THE MAIN CONCERN, WHICH IS, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, THIS PROPOSED FOURPLEX, WHICH IS SLIGHTLY MORE DENSE THAN SOME OF THE OTHER USES IN THE AREA, UH, WOULD CAUSE TOO MUCH CONGESTION. AND WE HAVE PROVIDED FOR NINE OFF STREET PARKING SPACES. AND I, I PROVIDED, UH, THIS MORNING, UH, MS. CASTRO, WHO'S BEEN MY LIAISON WITH THE, UH, CITY WITH THE UPDATED PLANS AND RENDERINGS. AND I WOULD HOPE THAT, UH, PERHAPS THE, THE COMMISSIONERS COULD, COULD SEE THOSE AND, AND RECOGNIZE THAT WE'VE DONE A LOT TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. THE NINE OFF STREET PARKING SPACES MORE THAN ADEQUATELY, UH, ADDRESSES ANY PARKING CONCERNS. THAT'S FIVE MORE THAN THE U D C WOULD REQUIRE FOR THIS TYPE OF ZONING, THE FOURPLEX ZONING. UM, AND WE'VE, UH, REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF 27 FEET, TOOK OUT SOME ROOFTOP DECKS THAT WE ORIGINALLY THOUGHT WOULD BE NICE, AND THAT'S JUST TO AVOID ANY SORT OF LOOMING OVER OUR NEIGHBORS. THERE'S FIVE OUT OF THE 20 HOUSES ON THE STREET ARE ALREADY, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO STORY AND ONE'S ALREADY GOT A ROOFTOP DECK, BUT WE DIDN'T WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BE TOO OUTTA CHARACTER. AND SO, YOU KNOW, 27 FEET IS RIGHT IN LINE WITH, IT'S ACTUALLY MUCH LOWER THAN THE 35 FEET THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED. AND, UH, THE ROOFTOP DECK CAME OUT SO THAT WE WOULDN'T, UH, CONTRIBUTE TO ANY CONCERNS IN THAT REGARD. UH, OUR LA OUR LATEST PLAN HAS A PROPOSED EIGHT FOOT FENCE, WHICH I KNOW WE'D NEED A VARIANCE FOR, BUT I THINK WE CAN GET IT. AND THEN TALL VEGETATION AROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. AND THAT'S, UH, AGAIN, TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF OUR NEIGHBORS. A COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORS SAID, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE FOLKS LOOKING INTO OUR BACKYARDS. AND SO WE'VE DEALT WITH THAT AND ADDRESSED THAT. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT WITH SOME OF THE RENDERINGS SHOWING THAT THE SIGHT LINES FROM EVEN THE SECOND FLOOR BALCONIES, UH, WOULD NOT, UH, WOULD BE BLOCKED BY THAT PROPOSED, UH, FENCE AND VEGETATION, UH, WOULD PUT IN PREVIOUS COVER, UH, ALONG THE DRIVEWAY AND THE PARKING AREAS ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, UH, HAVE A NECESSARY RUNOFF. IT'S JUST A GREENER ALTERNATIVE ANYWAY. AND, UH, AND AGAIN, JUST PART OF THAT, UH, GIVE AND TAKE WITH THE NEIGHBORS WAS, THERE'S SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, ESPECIALLY IN THE ALLEYWAY BEHIND, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL HAVE AN ADEQUATE DRAINAGE PLAN NO MATTER WHAT, BUT THAT OUS COVER WAS ANOTHER, [00:30:01] UM, CHANGE THAT CAME OUT OF THIS PROCESS. AND THEN MORE RECENTLY, WE'VE PROPOSED A BUNCH OF DEEDED RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, UH, THERE'S CONCERNS THAT WE COULD SELL THE PROPERTY AND, AND THAT FUTURE, UH, OWNERS WOULD, WOULD NOT HAVE THE SAME COMMITMENT TO RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT INTO PROTECTING THE NEIGHBOR'S INTEREST. AND, UH, AND SO WE, WE'VE PROPOSED DEED RESTRICTIONS, WHICH ARE ALSO IN THE MATERIALS THAT I'VE SENT TO MS. CASTRO THAT ENSURE AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT OUR TENANTS ONLY PARK IN THE OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, THAT THERE'S ONLY BE TWO VEHICLES PER UNIT TO ENSURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TOO MANY, UH, THAT WE HAVE PLENTY OF PARKING FOR ALL OF OUR TENANTS. UH, LITTLE THINGS, I THINK THE GARBAGE BINS IN THE STREET THAT WERE CONCERNED. AND THEN OF COURSE, QUIET HOURS OF 10:00 PM TO 7:00 AM ON THE WEEKDAYS, 11:00 PM TO 9:00 AM ON THE WEEKENDS. UH, JUST REASONABLE, REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS TO HELP, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT, OH, IT'D BE TOO LOUD OR IT'D BE TOO DISRUPTIVE. UH, THAT'S NOT, WE'RE, WE'RE IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL. WE'RE, WE'RE LONG TIME. MY WIFE AND I ARE, UH, LONGTIME RESIDENTS OF CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE COMMITTED TO THIS, TO THIS, UH, CITY AND, AND WE'RE COMMITTED TO, UH, RESPONSIBILITY OWNING AND, UH, LEADING OUT THESE UNITS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE NEIGHBORS AREN'T, AREN'T DISTURBED. UH, ONE THING I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS, AS PART OF THIS BACK AND FORTH, UH, ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UH, GEORGE CAST CASTRO DE LA GAR, I BELIEVE, UH, HE, HE REFERRED US TO THE CITY OF PORTLAND AND THEY HAD SOME MULTIFAMILY RULES THAT HE SAID WERE REALLY CONSIDERED TO BE KIND OF A GOLD STANDARD FOR THESE KIND OF PROJECTS. AND SO I PROVIDED THOSE TO THE COMMISSION AS WELL. AND I LOOKED THROUGH THEM. THEY'RE PRETTY TECHNICAL, SO I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE MET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE STANDARDS. IN PARTICULAR, IT'S A 50 50 RATIO OF LAND TO BUILDING ON THIS LOT, UH, ADEQUATE SETBACKS, ADEQUATE PARKING, ALL THE SAME CONCERNS THAT, THAT WE'VE HEARD THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THAT ARE IN, IN THE CITY'S RULES ARE ARE IN THOSE RULES. AND I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S ANOTHER WAY TO, TO GAUGE THIS PROJECT FROM AN OBJECTIVE STANDPOINT AS TO WHETHER IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETS THE, MEETS THE CRITERIA FOR A RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT. NOW, I KNOW THAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED DENIAL, BUT I, I'M AT THE COMMISSION, TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE AGENDA MEMO THAT WAS PR UM, PREPARED IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING. AND IT'S REALLY NOT CLEAR THAT THIS PROJECT DOESN'T MEET THE APPROVAL CRITERIA IN SECTION 35 DASH 4 21. I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, THE STAFF, UH, ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THIS PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN WITH RESPECT TO THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE. THIS FOURPLEX IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE. SO IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT PLAN. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CREATED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO. UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S SOMEWHAT CONCLUSORY THAT THE STAFF SAYS THERE'S GONNA BE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORS. THERE'S NOT A SINGLE CONCRETE ADVERSE IMPACT THAT'S IDENTIFIED. AND AS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TAKEN A LOT OF STEPS TO MINIMIZE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. UM, YOU KNOW, I I REALLY THINK THAT ANY, IF YOU STEP BACK AND LOOK AT EVERYTHING WE'VE DONE TO DEAL WITH, WITH THE CONCRETE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD, UM, THEY'RE REALLY NEGLIGIBLE AT THIS POINT WITH ALL THAT OFF STREET PARKING WITH THE PROTECTIONS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE BIG ISSUE IS REALLY, IS IT, YOU KNOW, IS IT SUITABLE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD? IS IT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD? AND IT'S TRUE THAT MOST OF THE PROPERTIES AROUND US ARE SINGLE FAMILY OR DUPLEXES, BUT YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY BEHIND US ARE TWO APARTMENT COMPLEXES. SO IT'S NOT LIKE HIGHER DENSITY IS UNHEARD OF IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PROJECT, THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN, INSIDE OF I 10, IT'S FIVE MINUTES FROM DOWNTOWN BY CAR, 15 MINUTES BY BUS. THIS IS, AND IT'S HARD, AN URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, VERY WALKABLE. UM, YOU KNOW, A SLIGHTLY HIGHER DENSITY OF A FOURPLEX IS NOT REALLY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THIS AREA OF SAN ANTONIO. UM, ESPECIALLY ONCE YOU CROSS I 10 AND YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS AREA HAS AS MUCH TO IN COMMON WITH THE OTHER SIDE OF I 10 WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF FOURPLEXES AND OTHER MULTIFAMILY, THEN MAYBE IT DOES WITH, UH, MONTICELLO PARK, WHICH IS KIND OF THE OTHER DIRECTION AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION REPRESENTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I'D ASK THE COMMISSION TO STEP BACK AND, AND RECOGNIZE THAT ALSO MANY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THIS, IN THIS AREA HAVE MULTI-GENERATIONAL LIVING SITUATIONS, THE NUMBER OF CARS IN, IN FRONT OF EACH HOME. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE. AND, UH, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, BUT IT, IT JUST SHOWS THAT THIS, THAT A FOURPLEX, ESPECIALLY ONE WITH ALL THIS OFF STREET PARKING, DOES NOT REALLY GO AGAINST THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR, OR HARM THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THINGS. AND OF COURSE, THE STAFF RECOGNIZE THAT, THAT THERE ARE NO HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE, UH, EFFECTS FROM THIS. IN FACT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT WITH ALL THE, UH, CONCESSIONS THAT WE'VE MADE, THAT OUR PROJECT DOES MORE TO PROTECT THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND WELFARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAN A PROJECT THAT WOULD CURRENTLY BE BUILT ON THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT ANY ZONING CHANGES. AND THE LAST THING THOUGH, THAT I'D REALLY LIKE TO ASK THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER IN ITS ROLE AS, YOU KNOW, AS THE, THE VOICE OF THIS COMMUNITY. [00:35:01] AND IT'S NOT JUST A MATTER OF, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKING A POLL OF THE NEIGHBORS AND SEEING WHO LIKES THE, THE PROPOSED CHANGE, BUT ALSO LOOKING AT IT IN THE BIG PICTURE OF WHAT IS THE PUBLIC POLICY OF THIS CITY. AND, YOU KNOW, I I BELIEVE THAT THIS, THIS PROPOSED, UH, PROJECT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH, UH, WITH THE PUBLIC POLICY OF THIS CITY. AS MENTIONED, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE OF THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN. AND WHILE, I MEAN, IT'S AN EMPTY LOT. THIS IS A, THIS IS A, YOU KNOW, AN EYESORE THAT NEEDS TO BE TURNED INTO SOMETHING AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BEST THING TO DO WITH IT, STEPPING BACK AND LOOKING AT, AT ALL OF THE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT OUR, OUR COMMUNITY IS FACING. UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IT, IT DOES MEET SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES, THE, THE EXPLICIT OBJECTIVES OF THE NEAR NORTHWEST COMMUNITY PLAN. IT PROMOTES THAT INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND HELPS TO MAKE THE DECO DISTRICT A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY BUSINESS CORRIDOR. UH, YOU KNOW, AND, AND IT REALLY PROMOTES THE, YOU KNOW, WELL MAINTAINED RENTAL HOUSING FOR A MIX OF INCOMES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS THAT IT PROMOTES INFILL DEVELOPMENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO HUGE GOALS OF THIS CITY. I MEAN, SAN IS ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING CITIES IN THE US WHERE ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE GOING TO LIVE? THE ZONING COMMISSION HELPS TO DETERMINE THAT. AND YOUR DECISIONS DECIDE WHETHER IT'S WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO SPRAWL OUT THE PATTERN THAT THREATENS OUR WATER QUALITY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT OVER THE RECHARGE ZONE, OR, OR ARE WE GONNA REVITALIZE ANY INNER CITY COMMUNITIES AND PROMOTE DENSER COMMUNITIES? THIS IS ALSO A CORE, UH, ISSUE. THANK YOU MR. RILEY, FOR COMBATING CLIMATE CHANGE. AND THEN OF COURSE, IF I COULD JUST HAVE ONE MORE SENTENCE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THIS FOURPLEX, WE CAN OFFER THESE AT, AT, UH, 1200 A UNIT THAT'S 600 PER PERSON FOR THE TWO BEDROOMS THAT'S MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE THAN ANYTHING ELSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND AND CONSIDERATION. OKAY. WE, WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU AND, UM, THANK YOU. AND IF WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE TIME FOR A REBUTTAL. UM, STEPH, IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH VOICEMAIL YOU. THIS IS BARBARA HILL, RESIDENT OF FIVE WEST MISSILE TO AVENUE CALLING IN TO COAST 1, 2 2. I WOULD FIRST LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMAN VIN'S OFFICE FOR ARRANGING A SECOND MEETING WITH THE PROPERTY UNDER 1526 WEST MISTLE TO AND TO THE OWNER MR. RILEY'S EXPERIENCE DIVISION AND PLANS FOR A FOURPLEX UNIT. I'D HOPED FOR A COMPROMISE FOLLOWING OUR FIRST MEETING IF A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THE LOT COULD NOT BE CONSIDERED TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THE OPTION BUILDING A DUPLEX, WHICH LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WOULD STILL FIT INTO THE CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. OBVIOUSLY MR. RILEY STILL WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD ON A FOURPLEX AND IN OUR LAST MEETING EVEN SUGGESTED HIS OTHER SOLUTION THAT HE MIGHT CONSIDER BUILDING A GROUP HOME INSTEAD. I STILL OPPOSE THE REZONING DRIVING MY CONCERN FOR THE INCREASE OF TRAFFIC FLOW ON A NARROW STREET IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALREADY SUFFERS FROM CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC. I CAN LONG, IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE'RE HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. ONE MOMENT PLEASE. OKAY, I, THIS IS BARBARA HILL RESIDENT OF ONE FOOT TRAFFIC FLOW ON THE NARROW STREET IN A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ALREADY SUFFERS FROM CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC BY COMMUTERS TRYING TO AVOID A LONG-WINDED LIGHT AT FREDERICKSBURG WOODLAWN AND I 10 AS WELL AS MY CONCERN THAT RE ZONING WILL ESTABLISH A PRECEDENT FOR OTHERS TO PROFIT FROM TEARING DOWN AGING HOUSING STOCK AND BUILD HIGH DENSITY AND FILL FOR PERSONAL GAIN AT THE DETRIMENT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. MR. RILEY MAY ARGUE THAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE A LOT TO REMAIN VACANT AND WOULD NOT, WE ONLY REQUEST THAT AN APPROPRIATE STRUCTURE BE BUILT THAT SITS SIT TIGHT AND SCALE OF EXISTING PROPERTIES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. MY NAME IS ELIA RENA, P O BOX (285) 527-8228. [00:40:03] AND MY PHONE NUMBER IS (210) 279-7204. AND I'M CALLING A REFERENCE 1526 WEST MISSILE TOE Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 1, 22. AND WE ARE IN OPPOSITION OF, OF THE THIS, UH, ZONING BECAUSE OF THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS AND THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE BY THE CITY OR THE ASSOCIATION. THIS IS ELIA RENA, PRESIDENT OF J AND A. THANK YOU. BYE. HI, MY NAME IS GEORGE DE LA GARZA, UH, WITH THE, UH, UH, AT 4 4 3 SHI WORLD DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. UM, IN THE NUMBER IS 2 1 0 6 1 8 6 1 2 OH. I'M IN OPPOSITION TO ZONING CASE IS THE 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 22. THAT'S 1526 MISSILE TO AVENUE, UH, FOR THE REASONS THAT, UH, WE HAVE CITED BEFORE. UM, NO LANDSCAPE BUFFERING, UH, TRAFFIC AND, AND, UM, PARKING HAVE NOT BEEN, UH, ADDRESSED, UH, PROPERLY. AND THE T STORY IS IN, UH, OPPOSITION TO THE BLOCK FACE ZONING THAT'S CURRENTLY, UM, IN THE CODE. SO ANYWAY, UM, I AM CALLING TO LEAVE THIS MESSAGE TO BE PLAYED. THANK YOU. BYE. ALRIGHT. RIGHT, MA'AM, THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. RILEY. WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'LL TRY TO BRIEFLY RESPOND TO EACH OF THESE COMMENTS. FIRST OF ALL, WITH RESPECT TO THE DUPLEX, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T FULLY, UM, HAVE A PLAN FOR THAT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE, THE BASIC, UH, LOOKING AT THE BUDGET FOR THE DUPLEX AND THE COST OF IT VERSUS, UH, HOW WHAT YOU COULD RENT OUT, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE THE SAME AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING BENEFITS AS THE FOURPLEX. THAT'S THE MAIN REASON WHY THE FOURPLEX IS, IS PREFERRED. AND WHEN WE'RE ADDRESSING ALL THE CONCERNS ABOUT OFF STREET PARKING, ET CETERA, I THINK THAT A FOURPLEX AND A DUPLEX ARE, ARE SOMEWHAT SIMILAR AND, UH, AND IT DOESN'T, DOESN'T CONTRIBUTE TO ANY OF THE HARMS THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT. AS FAR AS PRECEDENT, THERE'S NOT VERY MANY, UH, EMPTY LOTS IN THIS AREA. IT'S ONE THING TO COME IN AND, AND KNOCK DOWN A HOUSE OR, OR CHANGE IN EXISTING USE. THIS IS A BLANK SLATE. THIS IS A EYESORE OF A, OF A LOT. AND THE ZONING COMMISSION CAN DECIDE, YOU KNOW, IS THIS, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE NEAR NORTHWEST PLAN. UM, FOR, FOR LAND USE. IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE CITY'S GOALS THAT SET FORTH IN THE, IN THE CLIMATE CHANGE, UH, PLAN AND, AND THE PLANS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THOSE ARE THE PUBLIC POLICIES THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT. THE DEED RESTRICTIONS ARE VERY ENFORCEABLE. I I DREW THEM UP AND, UH, THEY'RE ENFORCEABLE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION WITH ATTORNEY FEES AWARDED, UH, IF THEY SUCCESSFULLY ENFORCE THEM. SO THEY'RE EXTREMELY ENFORCEABLE, UH, TO ADDRESS THAT COMMENT. AND THEN MR. DE LA GARZA, I'M A LITTLE AT A LOSS 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE MET WITH HIM AND, AND I SHOWED HIM HOW WE HAD PUT IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFERING AND HOW WE PUT IN THE NINE SPOTS. AND, AND DEL UH, WITH, WITH COUNCILMAN TREVINO'S OFFICE SAID, DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS? ANYTHING ELSE THAT THAT SHOULD BE, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? NO, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE REALLY, OBJECTIVELY WE HAVE ADDRESSED THESE CONCERNS AND OF COURSE THERE ARE FIVE OTHER TWO STORY PROPERTIES ON THE STREET. SO TWO STORY IS IN CHARACTER WITH THIS STREET. UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT WE PROVIDED THAT IT DOESN'T LOOM OVER THESE, THESE NEIGHBORING HOUSES. AND, AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE'VE ADDRESSED THE CONCERNS AND THAT IT'S, IT'S NOW WE'RE LEAVING IT TO THE ZONING COMMISSION TO TAKE A BIG PICTURE LOOK AND TO RECOGNIZE THAT, UH, THIS IS A, THIS IS A POSITIVE PROJECT FOR THE CITY AS A WHOLE, UH, FOR THE BIGGER PICTURE GOALS OF THE CITY IN TERMS OF INFILL DEVELOPMENT, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IN COMBATING CLIMATE CHANGE, AND IT DOESN'T HARM THE NEIGHBORS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. RILEY. UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. I'LL START WITH A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, I NOTICED ON THE, UM, THE G I S MAP THAT THERE APPEAR TO BE A COUPLE OF OTHER, UM, R SIX C CD, UM, ZONING ON, ON THIS, UH, NOT NECESSARILY ON THIS BLOCK, BUT ACROSS THE STREET. SO ON WEST MISSAL TOE, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE STREET. COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT THOSE, UM, ARE BEING USED FOR? WHAT'S THE CONDITIONAL USE ON THOSE? UH, UM, FROM WHAT WE GATHER BASED ON OUR RESEARCH, THE CDS WERE FOR DUPLEXES. OKAY, PERFECT. OKAY. AND THEN FOR THE APPLICANT, [00:45:01] UM, ON YOUR RENDERINGS, I DIDN'T SEE WHAT THE TOTAL SIZE OF YOUR BUILDING FOOTPRINT IS, SO COULD YOU LET US KNOW WHAT THAT IS? UM, YES, THAT WOULD BE, UM, HERE ON SOME OTHER PLANS THAT WE SUBMITTED. SO EACH OF THE UNITS IS 1,180 SQUARE FEET, SO 1180 TIMES FOUR, I'M SORRY, 1180 TIMES TWO SINCE, OH YEAH, 1180 TIMES FOUR SINCE THEY'RE EACH, UM, SO 4,720, UH, SQUARE FEET WOULD BE THE, THE BUILDING, BUT THE, THE FOOTPRINT WOULD BE THE 1180. RIGHT. SO IF, IF IT WAS TO BE ONE STORY, IT WOULD BE 180, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S, I'M JUST ASKING FOR NOT NOT THE TOTAL SIZE OF OKAY. THE FOOTPRINT OF THE BUILDING ACTUALLY, UM, I'M SORRY, IT WOULD BE 1180, IT WOULD BE 2,360 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE EACH OF THE UNITS IS A TWO STORY DUPLEX. AND SO IF THEY'RE EACH 1180, UH, THEN HALF OF THAT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, 5, 5 7, IT'D BE FIVE 90. SORRY, I'M THAT MATH. AND SO FIVE 90 TIMES FOUR WAS HOW WE WOULD GET TO THE TOTAL FOOTPRINT OF 2360. OKAY. OKAY. AND THEN, UM, AND YOU'RE SHOWING HERE YOUR PARKING AND ARE THOSE PARKING SPACES, ARE THOSE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TO CODE, ARE THOSE, BECAUSE I'M, I'M JUST CONCERNED BECAUSE THE, THE, THE SIZE OF THIS TRACT IS, IS PRETTY SMALL, UM, TO FIT A 2300 SQUARE FOOT FOOTPRINT BUILDING PLUS NINE PARKING SPACES. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THESE PARKING SPACES HAVE BEEN VETTED BY, UH, AN ARCHITECT. YES. MY, MY ARCHITECT, I, I WENT BACK AND ASKED HER TO DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE, 'CAUSE IT, IT SEEMED A LITTLE TIGHT TO ME, AND SHE ASSURED ME THAT, THAT THIS, UH, THIS IS TO CODE, THIS DOES, UH, WILL FIT. IN FACT, SHE HAD PREVIOUSLY TRIED TO SQUEEZE NINE IN THERE BACK IN THE BACK. AND, UH, AFTER I'D ASKED HER TO GO BACK AND LOOK AND MAKE SURE SHE, SHE REDUCED THAT TO EIGHT, AND THEN WE PUT ONE IN THE FRONT SO THAT WE'D HAVE A ONE FOR EACH. UH, EACH OF THE TENANTS WE'RE SAYING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE TWO, TWO VEHICLES PER UNIT, UM, PLUS ONE FOR ANY GUESTS THAT MAY COME BY OR, UH, FOLKS DELIVERING PACKAGES, WHATEVER. SO, UH, THIS HAS BEEN VETTED THREE TIMES BY OUR ARCHITECT THAT CAN ONLY TRUST THAT, THAT SHE DID IT. RIGHT, BUT, AND I'M SORRY, YOU JUST SAID ONE, ONE IN THE FRONT? YES, THE, THE MORE RECENT PLANS, BECAUSE ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IS, WELL, OKAY, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE EIGHT PARKING SPACES IN THE BACK, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ALREADY FOUR MORE THAN THE U D C REQUIRES. BUT, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED THAT, UH, THAT GUESTS WON'T HAVE A PLACE TO PARK OFF STREET. AND SO GUESTS OF YOUR TENANTS MAY CONTRIBUTE TO CONGESTION. SO WE WENT AHEAD AND, AND PUT ONE IN THE FRONT AS WELL, KIND OF A GUEST PARKING SPACE NEXT TO THE GATE. AND, UH, I EMAILED YOU THESE PLANS TODAY, THIS GREAT GREATHOUSE, AND I ALSO PROVIDED THEM TO VICTORIA CASTRO ASKING THAT IT'D BE DISSEMINATED TO, TO THE COMMISSIONERS JUST TO SHOW HOW, UH, THE PLANS HAVE, HAVE EVOLVED SINCE WE ORIGINALLY FILED THIS APPLICATION TO, TO ADDRESS THESE CONCERNS. AND ONE OF THE WAYS WE DID THAT WAS BY ADDING THE PARKING SPACE IN THE FRONT . OKAY. UM, SO YOU, YOU TALKED A LOT ABOUT AFFORDABILITY ON THIS PROPERTY. ARE YOU, ARE YOU PUTTING ANY AFFORDABILITY RESTRICTIONS ON IT? UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UM, YOU RESTRICTIONS THAT ADDRESS THAT, THAT ENSURE IF, IF THAT'S AN, AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS, ARE WE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING US TO CONSIDER PUBLIC POLICY, BUT THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN TELL THAT WOULD KEEP US, KEEP YOU FROM BUILDING THIS AND THEN SELLING IT TO SOMEONE ELSE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT IT WOULD BE, WE'RE JUST TAKING YOUR WORD THAT IT'S GONNA BE AFFORDABLE. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, IS THERE ANY ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT IS GOING TO GUARANTEE THE AFFORDABILITY ON THIS PROPERTY? I'D CERTAINLY BE WILLING TO LOOK AT THAT. I CAN JUST TELL YOU THAT, UH, FROM AFFORDABILITY STANDPOINT, OUR, OUR POINT IS THAT WHEN YOU CAN GET A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY WITH THE FOURPLEX AND YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE MORTGAGE IS GONNA BE, WHAT THE TAXES ARE GONNA BE, YOU CAN OFFER THESE FOURPLEXES FOR SOMETHING LIKE $1,200 A MONTH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GONNA CHANGE OVER TIME. AND I, I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND HOW THE ECONOMICS OF REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT WORKS. SO THAT'S, YEAH, I, THAT I, I TOTALLY GET THAT IS JUST WANTED TO KNOW ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WERE THINKING ABOUT ON THAT? UM, I, I'D BE HAPPY [00:50:01] TO PUT TO TRY SOME DON'T, SO THANK YOU. GO AHEAD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SIPES, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT, AND YOU HAD MENTIONED, UH, PERVIOUS, UH, PARKING OR PER PAVING. WHAT, WHAT, UH, MATERIAL ARE YOU PLANNING TO USE FOR THAT? UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE, THE CURRENT PLAN IS, UH, PAVERS THAT HAVE HOLES IN THEM, UH, THAT ALLOW THE WATER TO GO THROUGH THEM. OKAY. AND ARE YOU AWARE OF THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS FOR PERVIOUS PAVING? I MEAN, PERVIOUS PAVING IS GREAT. IT, IT STARTS OFF AWESOME. UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT HAPPENS IS IT REQUIRES A MAINTENANCE PLAN WHERE YOU HAVE TO, UH, CLEAR OUT THE FINES AND EVERYTHING SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME IMPERVIOUS. SURE. UH, NO, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO, TO COMMIT TO, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MAINTENANCE REQUIRED TO KEEP IT PERVIOUS. UH, IF WE NEED TO PUT THAT IN THE DEEDED RESTRICTIONS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT, THAT THIS IS A, A LONG-TERM INVESTMENT FOR ME AND MY FAMILY AND WHEN WE WOULDN'T LIKE TO SEE, UH, GET MESSED UP AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE OVERALL DRAINAGE PLAN AS WELL. SO WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT FLOODING OUT OUR NEIGHBORS BY, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING OUR DRAINAGE TO, TO BECOME IMPERVIOUS. OKAY. AND THE, THE FINAL QUESTION IS, YOU HAD, YOU HAD MADE MENTION THAT THERE ARE SOME QUADPLEXES BEHIND YOU. ARE YOU SPEAKING OF THE ONES THAT ARE ON WOODLAWN? YES. YES. AND I KNOW THAT THAT'S A BUSIER STREET AND, AND IT'S NOT STRICTLY, UH, COMPARABLE TO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER AREAS, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF THE BIG PICTURE OF IS THIS, DOES THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE MULTI-FAMILY? FOR SURE, AND SOME OF IT IS MULTIFAMILY THAT'S LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, AND THERE'S SOME DUPLEXES, OF COURSE, ACROSS THE STREET. UM, IT'S NOT THE, THE OVERALL POINT IS THAT THIS ISN'T COMPLETELY OUTTA CHARACTER WITH THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH IS FIVE MINUTES FROM DOWNTOWN WITHIN SORT OF THE URBAN CORE, REALLY. AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT THE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSION TAKE A, A LARGER BIG PICTURE LOOK AT, AT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IN, IN CONTEXT OF, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE WITHIN THIS KIND OF URBAN CORE AND RECOGNIZE THAT A FOURPLEX IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER WITH THAT. OKAY. UM, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, DO I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION? UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE STAFF AND TO THE APPLICANT. BOTH ARE, ARE WE AWARE OF ANY FOURPLEXES IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY OTHER THAN WHAT IS ON WOODLAWN? ARE THERE ANY OTHERS ON WEST MISSILE TOW OR MAGNOLIA OR ANY OF THE MORE NARROW, BECAUSE, BECAUSE WOODLAWN IS A FAIRLY WIDE STREET, UM, AND IT'S A THOROUGHFARE, BUT ARE WE AWARE OF ANY OTHERS? NO, MA'AM. NOT WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY. VICINITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE, I WOULD JUST POINT OUT THAT ACROSS I 10 IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I THINK HAS VERY SIMILAR CHARACTER, UH, TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FOURPLEXES OVER THERE THAT I'VE SEEN, UH, ALSO WITH, YOU KNOW, NARROWER STREETS, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE SINGLE FAMILY TYPE HOMES, BUT, UH, HAVE, HAVE ADAPTED AND BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FORKLIFTS AS, YOU KNOW, WITH SU SUFFICIENT PARKING, ET CETERA. SO, UH, IF YOU TAKE A LITTLE BIT BROADER VIEW OF, OF WHAT THIS AREA LOOKS LIKE, I THINK THERE ARE SOME THANKS. UM, OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. SO THIS CASE, UM, HAS BEEN DIFFICULT FOR ME, UM, IN SEVERAL REGARDS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS CONSISTENCY GOES, A FOURPLEX WOULD BE ALLOWED IN, UM, IN THE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL LAND USE CLASSIFICATION. UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I'VE STRUGGLED WITH A LITTLE BIT ON THIS. UM, AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY KIND OF THE OVERALL POLICY GOAL OF INCREASING DENSITY IN A, IN A, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CASE BY CASE, INCREMENTAL FASHION, UM, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, WITH OUR CITY'S GROWTH. HOWEVER, UM, GIVEN THIS PARTICULAR LOT AND THE FACT THAT THIS STREET IS VERY NARROW, UM, AND, AND ALREADY DOES SUFFER FROM NOT ONLY TO NOT JUST THE PARKING, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE APPLICANT [00:55:01] HAS ADDRESSED THE, THE PARKING, UM, WITH, BY PROVIDING OFF STREET PARKING. IT IS A, A, A MATTER OF TRAFFIC AS WELL AS, UM, SETTING A PRECEDENT GOING FORWARD FOR FUTURE DEVELOPERS TO COME IN AND SPECULATE ON, ON THESE TYPES OF, OF LOTS. AND I THINK THAT ACTUALLY GOES AGAINST THE GOAL OF PROVIDING, UH, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WE'RE DESTROYING OUR OLDER HOUSING STOCK, WHICH A LOT OF THE TIMES IS A, UM, NATURALLY OCCURRING AFFORDABLE PRODUCT. SO I, I HAVE RESERVATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THAT. UM, AS WELL AS JUST THE FACT THAT THIS IS VERY DENSE. IF YOU DO THE MATH, IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT AN MF 20 DENSITY, SO IT WILL BE 20, UH, UNITS PER ACRE, AND IT'S A SMALL LOT. AND ALSO GIVEN THE FACT THAT, UM, THERE IS NO OTHER R M FOUR ON THIS, THIS, UH, STREET, WE ARE PURELY R SIX WITH JUST A COUPLE OF CDS THAT ALLOW FOR DUPLEXES TO BE BUILT. UM, I'LL BE, I'M GONNA MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL, UM, FOR THIS, UH, CASE COMMISSIONER. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SIPES. UH, COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT THE CLIENT OR, UH, THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. I THOUGHT IT WAS VERY WELL DONE. UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT FROM THE, UH, FROM THE LENS OF NO ZONING, THIS WOULD'VE, THIS FITS IN PERFECTLY WITH ANYTHING BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO BEST TAKE CARE OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT THEN WE HAVE THIS OVERLAY OF THE GOVERNMENT ARM CALLED ZONING THAT WANTS TO LOOK AT YOUR LAND AND POSSIBLY THINK, WELL, IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, THE TON OF US, YOU CAN'T HAVE IT. I THINK THAT THE INDIVIDUAL GAVE A VERY GOOD PRESENTATION, HAS A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, BOTH BEHIND IT ON THE STREET ITSELF. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANY TYPE OF SIZE OF THE STREET. THESE ARE NORMAL SIZES OF STREETS. UM, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE DENSITY. I THINK HE'S FITTING A NEED THAT'S, UH, NECESSARY AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM, UH, WITH, UH, UH, WITH THE BUILDING ITSELF. I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE A LITTLE MORE FLEXIBLE WHEN IT COMES TO BUILDING DESIGN, BECAUSE WHAT WAS BUILT IN 1919 ISN'T GONNA BE BUILT TODAY. AND THEY DO HAVE A DIFFERENT MODERN LOOK TO 'EM, AND THEY DO HAVE A DIFFERENT CHARACTER. I KNOW YOU REFERENCED THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT I, I KIND OF MAY NOTED THAT BECAUSE I THINK SO MUCH IT ISN'T THE CHARACTER AS IT IS THE ACTIVITY OF A NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL. AND NEIGHBORHOODS CHANGE OVER TIME, AS THIS ONE DOES, AS ANY OF OURS DO. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT A DENIAL. I THINK IT'S A FINE PROJECT GOING FORWARD. UM, IT'S NOT AN UNUSUAL, UH, SETUP FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OR FOR PARTICULARLY ANY NEIGHBORHOOD, EVEN MINE. SO I WON'T APPROVE. I I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE DENIAL. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER WHITE? YEAH, I AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT CASE AND, UM, AND REALLY A CLOSE CALL. UH, BUT I, I FALL ON THE SIDE OF, UH, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS ON THIS ONE. I THINK THE DIRECTION THINGS ARE HEADED, UM, WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED, UM, LENDS ITSELF TOWARDS A PROJECT LIKE THIS. UM, THE DENSITY ISSUE, UM, DOESN'T REALLY CONCERN ME, UM, HERE. AND SO, UM, I JUST, I CAN'T, I CAN'T SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE I THINK THAT, UH, I THINK THIS PROJECT, UM, IS APPROPRIATE. . THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHITE. COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. UM, OBVIOUSLY I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE, THE MOTION FOR DENIAL. UM, A COUPLE COMMENTS. UH, BESIDES THE OBLIGATORY, I LIVE WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THIS PROPERTY. UM, THE, UH, THE SIZE OF THE STREET, UNFORTUNATELY, WAS BUILT TO THE EARLY 1900 STANDARDS. IT IS NOT THE STANDARDIZED STREET THAT, THAT WE SEE OUTSIDE OF FOUR 10 OR EVEN RELATIVELY CLOSE, INSIDE FOUR 10. IT IS A NARROW STREET. UM, UH, MOST STREETS NOW THAT, THAT YOU CAN PARK A CAR ON EITHER SIDE OF THE STREET AND STILL GET BY, NOT, NOT SO WITH THIS STREET, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A NARROWER STREET. IT, THAT'S HOW IT WAS BUILT, [01:00:01] UM, BACK IN THE DAY. UM, I ALSO LOOK AT, AT THE AMOUNT OF NEIGHBORS THAT EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBOR ALMOST AROUND THIS PROJECT, UH, TOOK THE TIME TO FILL OUT THEIR CARDS IN OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT. I NOTE THAT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION SEEMED TO HAVE MET MULTIPLE TIMES AND STILL, UM, HAD OPPOSITION TO THE PROJECT. UM, SO IT'S, YES, IF IT WAS ON WOODLAWN, NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER. IT, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IF IT WAS A LARGER LOT ON A CORNER, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT NOT BE AN ISSUE, BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK ON A NARROW STREET, IT, IT'S, IT'S TOO MUCH. AND, AND THAT IS THE RATIONALE BEHIND MY DECISION. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SIPES. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, WE HAVE, UH, A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR DENIAL. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? NO. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE? YES. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? NO. COMMISSIONER WHITE? NO. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SITES? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. EIGHT TO THREE. THANK YOU. COMMISSION. ITEM [5. 20-5967 Continued from 09/15/20) ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700189 (Council District 4)] NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO TO R FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 13,000 BLOCK OF WATSON ROAD. THERE WERE SEVEN NOTICES MAILED. THAT ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION AND NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE APPLICANT IS SEEKING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER THE 20TH. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENT? GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS KEVIN DEO WITH BROWN ORTIZ, ONE 12 EAST CON STREET REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT. WE ARE RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE TO ENGAGE IN FURTHER DISCUSSIONS WITH CITY STAFF AND THE COUNCILMAN'S OFFICE REGARDING OUR REQUEST. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, DO WE, UH, STAFF ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MA'AM. THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT. NO VOICEMAILS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YEAH, I GUESS, UH, MADAM CHAIR. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE OF, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE, UH, FOR THE NEXT, UH, BOARD HEARING, UH, WHICH IS THE OCTOBER THE 28TH. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION BY, UH, COMMISSIONER KAMATH FOR CONTINUANCE TO OCTOBER 20TH, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY, UM, DISCUSSION? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UH, CNN ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SYS? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIRMAN MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES 11 TO ZERO. [6. 20-5761 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700031 CD (Council District 3)] ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D C TWO CD A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES FULL SERVICE. GENERALLY LOCATED AT 99 15 ROOSEVELT AVENUE. THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR. NONE IN OPPOSITION VIA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS OPPOSED THE CURRENT C TWO AND C TWO S WITH [01:05:01] SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION. HALL MEETING FACILITY IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PROPERTY AND THE SURROUNDING AREA. THE REQUESTED C TWO CD BASED ZONING DISTRICTS WITH CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE SALES IS CONSISTENT AND WOULD CHANGE THE EXISTING ZONING TO NO LONGER ALLOW THE PARTY HOUSE RECEPTION USE A USE THAT GENERALLY GENERATES MORE TRAFFIC, PEOPLE AND NOISE TO AN AREA. CONVERSELY, THE MOTOR VEHICLE SALES WILL BE A LESS INTENSE AND MORE SEDENTARY USE FOR THE AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? GO AHEAD. MR. RODRIGUEZ? YES. UH, MY NAME IS JUAN RODRIGUEZ, ENGINEER, UH, REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER. YOU CAN PRESENT YOUR CASE, SIR. THANK YOU. SO THE PROPERTY OWNER, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, THE, THEY HAD A ZONE CHANGE BACK IN MARCH REGARDING THE, UM, THE PARTY HOUSE AND, UH, WAS APPROVED. AND, UH, BEFORE THAT THEY HAD THE, THE AUTO SALES AND, AND FULL SERVICE CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE, THE ALMOST THE, UH, PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY. SO WHAT THE OWNER WANTS TO DO IS JUST TO CLASSIFY THE, THE LOT THAT IS BEING IN QUESTION OR BEING PROPOSED TO HAVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE FOR FULL SERVICE. UH, CONSIDERING THAT NOW THAT THE OTHER, THE, THE LOT THAT IS BEING USED FOR PARTY HOUSE WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT USE. AND THEN YOU HAVE A SMALLER AREA FOR, UM, FOR, FOR THE AUTO SALES AND, AND FULL SERVICE, UM, CONDITIONAL USE ON THAT LOT THAT WE HAVE. UH, ON THE EXHIBIT. THE OWNERS, UH, HAD PREVIOUSLY WORKED ON, ON THE SAME, THEY, THEY, THEY'VE USED THIS BEFORE AS A CONDITIONAL USE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE, UH, USING IT IN THIS SMALLER AREA OF THEIR PROPERTY. UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS TO, UH, BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER. THANK YOU SIR. THERE WILL BE IF YOU'LL STAND BY. UM, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? STAFF? YES MA'AM. I BELIEVE WE HAVE A VOICEMAIL. THANK YOU. WE WILL PLAY THOSE NOW. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRADY ALEXANDER. I RESIDE AT 1 8 3 9. HI, 7 8 2 2 3. I'M CALLING IN REGARDS TO CASE NUMBER 25 7 6 1 LOCATED AT 99 1 5 ROOSEVELT. I REPRESENT HOT WELLS MISSION REACH NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE SUPPORT THE VIA CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION'S OPPOSITION TO THE CONDITIONAL USE ADDITION FOR THE ZONING LOCATED AT THAT PROPERTY. IT'S REALLY SAD TO SEE IN A LOT OF ZONING CASES FOR WHERE AT THE LAST MINUTE A CON A CONDITIONAL USE THAT WAS NOT PRESENTED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THROWN IN AND TRIED TO BE PASSED. UM, THIS AREA NEEDS DIVERSITY AND THIS WILL NOT ENHANCE THIS ALREADY, ALREADY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITY. SO WE STAND IN UNISON WITH THE VEHICLE, CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT THEIR OPPOSITION TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE ADDITION. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. BYE. THIS IS . I'M WITH THE VEHICLE, CORONADO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, 1 0 0 7 1 OSA. THAT'S THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ADDRESS. UM, AND MY ADDRESS IS ON SAN 1522. WE'RE CALLING ABOUT, THIS IS IN REGARDS TO Z 1 0 7 0 0 0 3 1. FILE NUMBER 25 7 20 57 61. CONDITIONAL USE FOR MOTOR VEHICLE CELLS. WERE TOTALLY AGAINST THIS SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY IN THE AREA. THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS AGAINST THIS. WE HAD, UH, AGREED, OR WE SAID IT WAS OKAY ON ANOTHER ZONING CASE WHERE IT WAS GONNA BE A PARTY HOUSE, AND NOW THEY'RE ADDING CONDITIONAL USE. SO WE'RE TOTALLY AGAINST THIS. UM, MY PHONE NUMBER'S TWO TWO THREE NINE THREE SIX NINE FOUR FOUR. [01:10:01] THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE, MA'AM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. RODRIGUEZ, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT? I'LL JUST, UH, REITERATE THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE, AS IT WAS BEFORE, IT HAD TO ENCOMPASSED, UH, ALMOST THE ENTIRE, NOT IN THE ENTIRE, UH, PROPERTY, BUT AT LEAST FOUR TO SIX ACRES THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY. NOW THAT THE CURRENTLY THE, THE PROPERTY'S BEING PLATTED RIGHT NOW, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THE PARTY HOUSE AS A, AS A, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL, UH, UH, USE FOR, FOR THE PARTY HOUSE. AND WE, WE GOT THAT APPROVED, WHICH WE THANK, UH, UH, THE PEOPLE AND THE, THE ZONING COMMISSION. BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE THIS LOT OVER, UH, THAT WE HAVE, UH, PRESENTING, WE HAVE A SMALLER AREA THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN LIEU OF THE PREVIOUS AREA THAT THEY HAD. SO I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, RE I WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL JUST BECAUSE YOU, THERE IS A SMALLER AREA OF, OF THE PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE USED FOR THIS CONDITIONAL USE INSTEAD OF WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. SO IN MY OPINION, I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A BETTER, IT'S A BETTERMENT FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND, UM, I HOPE, UH, THE COMMISSION CAN CONSIDER THE, THE APPROVAL. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. SO, UM, WERE YOU PART OF THE ORIGINAL, UM, CONVERSATIONS, DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS BACK IN MARCH WHEN THE ZONING THAT JUST TOOK PLACE, UM, HAPPENED? I DID PARTICIPATE WITH THE COM WITH THE COUNCIL, UM, REPRESENTATIVE MM-HMM. , I DID SPOKE, I DID SPEAK, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, THE STAFF REGARDING THE ZONE CHANGE FOR THE PARTY HOUSE. AND WE DID ACCOMMODATE A LOT OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS. UH, WE DID IT, UH, LISTEN TO THE, TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE, THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL, UH, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, UH, WANTED. AND THAT WE DID TAKE THAT ALL OF THAT INTO ACCOUNT. UH, AS YOU, AS I'VE TOLD, AS I SAID EARLIER, IT THIS PLA I MEAN, THE PROPERTY IS PLATTED RIGHT NOW. WE'RE JUST PENDING, UH, TO GET IT RECORDED. SO WE, INSTEAD OF HAVING MULTIPLE DRIVEWAYS, UH, IT'S JUST GONNA HAVE ONE WHICH WOULD CONTROL, UH, TRAFFIC COMING INTO THE PROPERTY. AND THIS ALL THIS WAS IN, IN CONSIDERATION AND, AND APPROVED BY, BY THE CITY AND TXDOT. SO THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY GONNA BE MORE CONTROLLED THAN IT WAS BEFORE. AND CONSIDERING, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR TRAFFIC, UH, VOLUMES AND COMING IN AND OUT. OKAY. SO, UM, SO THIS, UH, THIS TIME AROUND WHEN YOU DECIDED TO, UM, CHANGE WHAT YOU HAD ORIGINALLY, UH, WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COUNCIL DISTRICT ON, UM, DID, WAS THERE A PARTICULAR REASON THAT, UM, YOU DIDN'T GET BACK IN TOUCH WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS OR THE COUNCIL OFFICE? UH, WE DID TO HAVE A DISCUSSION. WE DID TRY AND, UH, WE DID TRY, UH, THERE WAS SOME COUN, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UH, SORRY. WE DID TRY TO, UH, MAKE COMMUNICATION WITH THE DISTRICT, UH, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT. AND WE DID HAVE SOME, UH, COMMUNICATION. UH, HOWEVER WE, WE PROCEEDED, WE WERE TRYING TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT, UH, IT GOT IT, IT STARTED GETTING PROLONGED BECAUSE OF HOW WE NEEDED TO PRESENT THE, THE CASE TO, TO THE CITY STAFF. AND, UH, WE, WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE LIKE A KNOWLEDGE OF, OF ANYBODY OPPOSING THE, THE, THE, THE, THIS ZONE CHANGE. BECAUSE WE THOUGHT SINCE IT WAS ALREADY A CONDITIONAL USE FOR, FOR ALMOST SIX ACRES OUT, OUT OF THE PROPERTY, UH, WE, WE ANTICIPATED THAT BE, IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER AREA, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE BEST TO, YOU KNOW, TO, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE, BE A BETTER, A BETTER USE FOR, FOR OR FOR THE COMMUNITY. UH, ALRIGHT. LET ME ASK YOU ANOTHER QUESTION. SO CAN YOU JUST HELP ME, I THINK THERE WAS A CONFUSION LAST NIGHT, UM, AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION 'CAUSE WE'RE, IT'S A, LIKE, IT'S, IS IT USED OR NEW CAR SALES AND IT'S, AND IT'S A FULL SERVICE REPAIR SHOP AND THERE'S A FOOD LICENSE. I'M JUST KIND OF CONFUSED AS [01:15:01] TO WHAT'S, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. WHAT, WHAT IS GOING, WHO'S GONNA BE THE USER AND WHAT KIND OF, UH, BUSINESS IS IT GOING TO BE FROM? FROM WHAT I UNDER OR FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER, THIS WOULD BE A, A AUTO, AUTO SALES FOR, FOR USED VEHICLES. AND THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, THEY JUST NEED, UH, THE ZONE AVAILABLE. SO IN THE EVENT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO CERTAIN, UH, FIXES TO VEHICLES ON, ON THEIR, ON THEIR SHOP, THAT THE ZONE WOULD BE A, WOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THEM TO DO SO, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, AS IT IS WITH A C TWO, THE CERTAIN AUTO SERVICES ARE NOT ALLOWED. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH TO BE ALLOWED TO DO CERTAIN, UH, FULL SERVICE, UH, FOR VEHICLE, UH, I GUESS SERVICES. OKAY. AND, AND WHAT DOES THE FOOD SERVICE HAVE TO DO WITH THAT? THE WHAT? EXCUSE ME? YOU SAID FOOD SERVICE EARLIER? FULL SERVICE. OH, YOU SAID? YEAH, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE. OH, DID YOU SAY FULL? OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. I, I KEPT HEARING FOOD. I'M SORRY. LIKE F O O D. OKAY, I GOT IT. NO, NO, NO, NO. THAT'S MY APOLOGY. MY APOLOGY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. MY, MY ACCENT ? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S MY EARS. OKAY. MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. , NO PROBLEM. YEAH, NO, IT'S FULL SERVICE. IT, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO, LET'S SAY, UH, TO FIX A, THE LIGHTS OF A VEHICLE, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, CHANGE THE OIL OR, I DON'T KNOW, WORK ON THE TRANSMISSION IF THEY HAVE TO SOME, SOMETHING LIKE THAT SO THEY CAN BE ALLOWED TO DO SUCH, SUCH SERVICES. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND THEN, UM, AND WOULD YOU BE IN, UM, FAVOR OF, UM, HAVING DISCUSSION? I I DON'T KNOW IF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION I SHOULD HAVE ASKED. UM, IT'S IN AGREEMENT WITH HAVING A DISCUSSION, UM, WITH YOU IN THE, IN THE COUNCIL OFFICE. IF, IF I, I'M NOT SURE IF I'LL MOVE FOR, UH, CONTINUOUS, BUT IF, IF I DID, WOULD YOU BE, UH, IN AGREEMENT WITH DISCUSSION? YES. YEAH. IF WE WERE TO NEED TO, UH, DISCUSS THIS FURTHER? YES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. UM, AND I, AND I NEGLECTED TO SAY THIS, A DISTRICT THREE CASE TOO. FOR PUBLIC RECORD. MM-HMM. . SO THAT'S WHY, UH, I STARTED THE CASE. COMMISSIONER MCGEE. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? COULD I ASK STAFF FOR CLARIFICATION HERE? 'CAUSE I, I AM CONFUSED. I UNDERSTOOD WHEN THE ITEM WAS READ THAT THIS ACTION WOULD NOW REMOVE THE SPECIFIC USE FOR PARTY HOUSE. BUT WHEN LISTENING TO THE APPLICANT SPEAK, I UNDERSTOOD HIM TO SAY HE WANTS THE PARTIES TO REMAIN AND TO ADD ANOTHER CONDITIONAL USE FOR THE OTHER PART OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S POSSIBLY BEING REP PLATTED. COULD I GET A CLARIFICATION? PLEASE? CORRECT. WE, WE DO NEED TO KEEP THE PARTY HOUSE ZONE CA UH, AVAILABLE. UH, I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT IT'S A C TWO, UH, S A SPECIAL USE FOR PARTY HOUSE THAT WAS, UH, UH, APPROVED IN MARCH. OKAY. AND THEN THIS NEW CONDITIONAL USE. THANK YOU. I, I THINK STAFF IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA NEED TO ANSWER THIS. THANK YOU. UH, IT, IT APPEARS THAT, UH, HE MAY NEED A CONTINUANCE IN ORDER TO BETTER DEVELOP WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO. IT WAS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PARTY HOUSE WAS NO LONGER GOING TO BE UTILIZED AND THAT THE PROPERTY WAS GOING TO BE REZONED TO, OR WHAT HE DESIRED FOR THE REZONING WAS A C TWO CD FOR THE MOTOR VEHICLE SALES. SO, UH, IT APPEARS THAT THERE, THERE MAY BE MORE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE ON THIS. THANK YOU. THEN I WOULD TURN THAT BACK TO THE CHAIR, PERHAPS SUPPORT A CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU. OKAY. UM, YES, I WOULD, UH, LIKE TO DO THAT. BEFORE I MAKE THAT, WAS THERE ANYONE WHO HAD, UH, QUESTIONS BEFORE I, UM, MAKE THAT MOTION? OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, A MOTION. SO, UH, MR. RODRIGUEZ, SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE. AND DURING THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO HAVE TIME TO WORK OUT WITH STAFF WITH [01:20:01] THE ACTUAL, UM, ZONING THAT YOU, UM, ACTUALLY NEED. ALSO TIME FOR YOU TO REACH OUT TO THE COUNCIL OFFICE AND TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS AND TO MYSELF. AND SO, THE, UH, TRADITIONAL CHOICES HERE ARE TWO WEEKS OR FOUR WEEKS. UM, WHICH WOULD YOU PREFER, SIR, MR. RODRIGUEZ? UH, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY FOUR WEEKS. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, STAFF, UH, WHAT, WHAT'S THE DATE FOR THE FOUR, FOUR WEEKS? NOVEMBER 3RD. NOVEMBER 3RD. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS CASE UNTIL, UH, NOVEMBER 3RD, SECOND MCDANIEL. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE WITH A BY, UH, COMMISSIONER MCGEE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY. ROLL CALL. VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE. AYE. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPS? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 11 TO ZERO. ALL RIGHT. MADAM CHAIR, ARE YOU READY TO PROCEED OR DO YOU NEED A, DO YOU GUYS NEED A BREAK? IF ANYBODY NEEDS A BREAK, GIVE ME THUMBS UP. IF NOT, WE'LL PLOW ON A LITTLE WHILE LONGER. UM, YEAH, WE'RE READY TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU. [7. 20-5734 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700157 (Council District 1)] ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO A H O D TO C THREE A H O D AT AT 82 11 BROADWAY STREET. THERE WERE 16 NOTICES MAILED. THREE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION, AND NO RESPONSE FROM OAK PARK. NORTHWOOD STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBORING LAND IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THE REQUESTED C THREE WOULD GREATLY INCREASE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING REZONING OF THE PROPERTY FOR A A TATTOO PARLOR. THIS REZONING CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITH A C TWO CD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TATTOO PARLOR. THIS WILL MINIMIZE ALL OF THE INTENSE COMMERCIAL USES ALLOWED IN THE C THREE DISTRICT, SUCH AS AUTO REPAIR, BAR, TAVERN, LAUNDRY, PLANT, AIR CONDITIONER, RETAIL, TOBACCO STORE, AND OTHER SIMILAR INTENSE USES. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL WITH AN ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION FOR C TWO CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TATTOO PARLOR. PLEASE NOTE THAT IF THE COMMISSION GOES WITH STAFF ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION, THE CASE WILL NEED TO BE CONTINUED IN ORDER FOR THE APPLICANT TO PREPARE A SITE PLAN FOR CONSIDERATION. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE, MR. LOPEZ? YEAH, THIS IS THE, GO AHEAD, SIR. WE CAN HEAR YOU. OKAY. YEAH, THIS IS, UH, TRIGG. DELEY AND I'M MANAGER OF LA CHINO, L L C, THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AT 82 11 BROADWAY. OKAY. YOU CAN PRESENT YOUR CASE, SIR. WELL, THE CASE IS THAT, UM, THAT IT IS A, UH, RETAIL ZONING, CURRENTLY A C TWO. AND I'VE HAD A, UH, VACANCY PROBLEM FOR OVER 10 YEARS. I ONLY HAVE ONE TENANT IN THE SMALL RETAIL BUILDING, AND I'VE HAD TO TURN DOWN SEVERAL TENANTS THAT, UH, BECAUSE THEY REQUIRED THE C THREE ZONING, THERE WAS A PAWN SHOP NAMED LIBERTY PAWN SHOP, AND I NEEDED THE C THREE ZONING FOR THAT. AND THEN THERE WAS A LIQUOR THERE. CURRENTLY, THERE'S A LIQUOR STORE THAT'S INTERESTED, AND I NEED C THREE ZONING FOR THAT. THEN I'VE GOT ANOTHER MAN THAT WANTS TO OPEN A TATTOO SHOP. SO, UH, I'M BASING THE WHOLE THING ON, UH, USE THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE ADJOINING. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH IS THE A BAR CALLED THE HANGAR BAR. AND ON THE NORTH, ADJOINING THIS PROPERTY IS A, UM, UH, IS A, UH, PETS, UH, UH, EXCUSE ME, A A VETERINARIAN, UH, UH, SHOP. [01:25:01] AND THEY HAVE A, UH, PET CREMATORIUM. THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, UM, DISPOSE OF THESE ANIMALS AND SOMETIMES THERE'S, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ANNOYING ODOR IN THE AIR, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MAKING IT C THREE WITH THE BARS OUT THERE AND THE MECHANIC SHOP ACROSS THE STREET. AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST, UH, GIVEN THE, UH, ECONOMIC DISADVANTAGE ON, IN, WITH THE C TWO ZONING AND UNABLE TO MAKE LEASES FOR THE, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THAT WANT TO BE THERE. HELLO? OKAY. THANK, THANK YOU, SIR. UM, IF YOU'LL STAND BY, I'M GONNA SEE IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, SO YOU, AND YOU WOULD HAVE TIME FOR RESPONSE, AND WE MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, MA'AM. THERE ARE NO COMMENTS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GREG HOUSE. THANK YOU. UM, I JUST HAVE, UH, ONE QUESTION HERE FOR STAFF. UM, COULD YOU TELL ME JUST HOW MANY PARKING SPOTS, UH, THIS PROPERTY HAS ON IT? SITE PLAN REQUIRED? THERE WAS NO SITE PLAN REQUIRED FOR THE ZONING, SO, UH, WE DIDN'T, UH, MAKE THAT ASSESSMENT, BUT MAYBE THE APP, UH, THE OWNER OR APPLICANT KNOWS HOW MANY PARKING SPACES HE HAS OUT THERE. , MR. DELEY, UH, MR. DELEY IS, IS THE APPLICANT STILL PRESENT? MAYBE? UM, YOU HAVE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF, SIR, TO RESPOND. WE WANNA KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPACES THERE ARE. GO AHEAD, SIR. OKAY. UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S ABOUT 20 IN THE BACK AND ABOUT, UH, 12 IN FRONT. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME? Y YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE, THE REMAINING COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, UH, TO THE APPLICANT, COULD YOU TELL ME HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED YOUR, THE PROPERTY? UH, 45 YEARS. A LONG TIME. WHAT WAS NEXT TO YOU 45 YEARS AGO? ? WELL, I, I PURCHASED MY, THIS PROPERTY IN 1975. AND WHAT, WHO WERE YOUR NEIGHBORS AT THE TIME? UH, THERE WAS TWO ATTORNEYS THAT HAD A VACANT LOT BECAUSE, UH, I, I'M THE MANAGER OF ANOTHER L L C THAT OWNS THE, THE HANGAR BAR, WHICH ADJOINS THIS PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH. AND THERE WERE TWO ATTORNEYS, THERE WERE BROTHERS, AND I CAN'T THINK OF THEIR NAMES RIGHT NOW. SO THEY WERE, AND THE VETERINARIAN WAS THERE. SO IT'S ALWAYS BEEN THE VETERINARIAN SHOP, UH, THAT ADJOINS ME ON THE NORTH AND, AND THE VACANT LOT. SO, UH, WELL, AND, AND THE, IN THE VACANT LOT, I PURCHASED AND BUILT A BUILDING IN 1985, WHICH IS NOW THE HANGAR BAR. IT'S CURRENTLY AN OPERATING, THEY'RE OPERATING A BAR THERE. IS THAT TO THE SOUTH, THE HANGAR BAR? YEAH, THAT ADJOINS ME ON THE SOUTH. IT'S LOT NUMBER 33. OKAY. AND THEN THE LOT TO THE NORTH IS I ONE THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE VETERINARIAN CREMATORY OR? YES. AND YES. AND THE VETERINARIAN HAS THE ABILITY TO USE A CREMATORIUM THERE. WOW. SO IT'S A PRETTY, IT'S A PRETTY HEAVY USE IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE DESTROYING THESE ANIMALS AND, AND THE SMOKE IS COMING OUT. SO SOMETIMES THERE WE'RE ANNOYED BY THE, THE SMELL. OKAY. SO YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES THERE. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE STAYED ABOUT THE SAME IN THE LAST 45 YEARS. YOU'VE OWNED IT, YOU'VE MAINTAINED IT, YOU PAID YOUR TAXES, CORRECT? UH, YES. AND THE LAST TIME IT WAS OCCUPIED WAS, UH, WHEN FITNESS IN MOTION WAS THERE, AND THEY MOVED OUT, UH, I THINK 11 YEARS AGO. OKAY. AND SINCE THEN, I'VE ONLY HAD ONE TENANT, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD ONE OR TWO TENANTS, AND NOW I'M DOWN TO ONE TENANT AGAIN. YES. AND, AND, AND, AND THE TENANT I HAVE IS A, UH, SMOKE SHOP. BAD HABIT. OKAY. THAT'S ALL I HAVE MY QUESTIONS, THOUGH. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTION? COMMISSIONER [01:30:01] WHITE, I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED THIS, BUT WAS THE APPLICANT OPPOSED TO, UM, TO THE STAFF'S ALTERNATE RECOMMENDATION? WELL, THAT WOULD SATISFY ONE OF MY PROSPECTIVE TENANTS. UH, THE TATTOO SHOP COULD MOVE IN UNDER THAT, BUT, UM, BUT THAT WOULD STILL LEAVE MORE THAN HALF OF THE BUILDING VACANT, AND THE HALF OF THE BUILDING, THE VACANT IS, UH, WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR THE PAWN SHOP AND WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR THE LIQUOR STORE. SO I'D HAVE TO HAVE THE C THREE ZONING TO LEASE TO THE PAWN SHOP AND THE LIQUOR STORE. AT LEAST THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. AND, AND STAFF, HE'S CORRECT ON THAT. RIGHT? I, UM, EXCUSE ME, SPEAKING, I, I, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION. COULD YOU REPEAT THAT? YEAH. IT, IT WAS TO STAFF. STAFF, YES, SIR. THIS IS, THIS IS CHRISTIE. THE APPLICANT EXPLAINED THAT THEY WOULD PREFER THE C THREE BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE USES THAT C THREE ALLOWS. IT, IT GIVES THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY FOR USE OF THE BUILDING. UH, SO THEY PREFERRED NOT TO GO WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR C TWO CD. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. OKAY. AND ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? CLARIFICATION FROM STAFF UNDER C2 OR NOT LIQUOR STORES ALLOWED? A LIQUOR STORE IS ALLOWED, BUT HE HAS MENTIONED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS A BAR AND A PAWN SHOP. OKAY. THANK YOU. BUT, SO C TWO WAS ALLOWED, HE COULD LEASE TO A LIQUOR STORE IF THAT ZONING REMAINED. IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE. OKAY. UM, ON THIS CASE, I'LL BE MAKING, UM, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. UM, I RESPECT, UH, STAFF'S, UM, CONCERNS ON THIS CASE. UM, HOWEVER, I THINK GIVEN THE SURROUNDING USES ON THIS PROPERTY AND THE FACT THAT BROADWAY IS CLEARLY A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR, WE HAVE C THREE AND I ONE ON SEVERAL SIDES OF HIS PROPERTY, NO RESIDENTIAL USES TO SPEAK OF WITHIN THE REALLY IMMEDIATE VICINITY. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S SURROUNDED BY WHAT APPEAR TO BE COMMERCIAL AND, AND HEAVY COMMERCIAL USES AT THAT. UM, I DON'T SHARE THE SAME, UH, CONCERNS AS, AS STAFF DOES. SO, UM, GIVEN THAT I, I'LL, I'M MAKING THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION. I'LL SUPPORT THE MOTION BECAUSE IT'S AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS OWNED HIS LAND FOR 40 PLUS YEARS, PROBABLY LONGER THAN SOME OF US HAVE BEEN ALIVE. I THINK HE'S PROVEN THAT HE KNOWS HOW TO DEVELOP IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. HE'S PROVIDED JOBS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. HE'S PAID HIS TAXES. HE'S DUE EVERY RIGHT TO DEVELOP THAT LAND BECAUSE HE IS A LANDOWNER. AS A ZONING COMMISSIONER, WE LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, YOU DID WELL, SIR. WE'RE GOING TO, WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE CHANGE TO YOUR LOT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING AROUND YOU. IF ANYTHING, HE'S BEEN MORE AFFECTED BY THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED AROUND HIM IN THE PAST 45 YEARS. BUT I'M GONNA APPROVE, UH, APPROVE THE MOTION AS WELL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION? OKAY, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER SIPES. OH, BE SURE TO UNMUTE YOURSELF. SIR. SIR, DID HE DROP OFF? UH, YEAH. I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HIM THERE. I THINK HE HAD TO DROP [01:35:01] OFF. I REMEMBER HE HAD TO DROP OFF. YES. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? UH, HE, OH, I SEE. COMMISSIONER PEC ON. COMMISSIONER SYS. HOLD ON. UH, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. YES. OH, THERE YOU ARE. OKAY. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. ALRIGHT. MOTION PASSES. 11 TO ZERO FOR THE NEXT CASE. UM, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS, UM, RE RECUSING, SO SHE'LL, UH, LET THE RECORD SHOW SHE'S MUTING HER CAMERA AND HER MICROPHONE. [9. 20-5732 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700192 (Council District 2)] THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER NINE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE C THREE. ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED IN THE 100 BLOCK OF GROVE ROAD, THERE WERE 17 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, SIX RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, NINE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. AND THERE'S NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF FINDS EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING LANDS IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THIS AREA IS RURAL AND PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL IN CHARACTER. THE REQUESTED C THREE WOULD GREATLY INCREASE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IMPACTS ON ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. THE REZONING WOULD CONSTITUTE MID LODGEMENT. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN THE EASTERN TRIANGLE COMMUNITY PLAN AND IS DESIGNATED AS PARKS AND OPEN SPACE. THE REQUESTED C THREE IS NOT CONSISTENT. THE APPLICANT REQUESTED A PLAN AMENDMENT TO REGIONAL CENTER STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMEND DENIAL. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND DENIAL FOR THIS ZONING CASE. MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. IS THE, UH, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, THIS IS JOE MONROE. UH, I AM THE OWNER OF THE SAID PROPERTY. AND, UM, I GUESS I PRESENT MY CASE AND I DID SEND IN A POWERPOINT, UH, PRESENTATION, UM, TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER SOME TYPE OF PLAN. IT'S UP, SIR. SO I CAN'T SEE, JUST REMEMBER THERE'S A DELAY ON YOUR SCREEN. SO JUST TELL US WHICH SLIDE TO GO TO. OKAY. WELL, THE FIRST SLIDE IF, UM, WELL, THE FIRST SLIDE IS, YOU KNOW, IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT MY PLAN IS FOR THE PROPERTY AND EVERYTHING. AND AT THE FIRST MEETING, THE REPRESENTATION OF THE PROPERTY WAS NOT A, YOU KNOW, TO MY PEN OF VALID REPRESENTATION, I OWNED TWO ACRES OF THE, OF THE PLOT. AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, BUT IT'S GOT IT. THE, THE PLAN THAT WAS SHOWING, UH, HAS IT ENCROACHING ON, ENCROACHING ON LIKE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE RESIDENTS, WHICH THE LAND DOES NOT. UM, YOU KNOW, SO I HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. IF YOU GO TO SLIDE THREE, UH, I THINK IT'LL SHOW, YOU KNOW, UM, APPROXIMATELY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW. OKAY. UM, SO IF YOU LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S GOT C I SIX, SLIDE THREE. WELL, FIRST, YEAH, THE R THREE AND FIRST YOU'LL SEE ON THE, ON THE CORNER, RIGHT THERE IS A COMMERCIAL SIGN SHOP ALREADY. OKAY. AND IT HAS AN ADDRESS OF RIGSBY, BUT THE ENTRANCE IS ON GROVE ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ABOUT 30 FEET FROM THE ENTRANCE TO MY PROPERTY. OKAY. AND THEN ON MY PROPERTY, THERE'S ONE HOUSE, UH, I THINK TWO HOUSES, THE NEXT TWO HOUSES, BECAUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE YOU SEE THERE'S A C THREE AND ALSO A C ONE. OKAY. AND THEN IT'S GOT A OPEN LOT, WHICH BELONGS TO THE NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, WHICH IS THE NEXT HOUSE, UH, RAYMOND. AND HE OWNS ALL OF THAT PROPERTY. AND THEN THERE'S ONE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO HIS. AND IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO HOUSES IS WHERE MY BOUNDARY BOUNDARY LINE END. OKAY. AND THEN ON THE BACKSIDE OF ME, THERE'S A CHURCH, UH, OPEN FIELD, AND THEN ANOTHER OPEN FIELD. ALTHOUGH IT'S, UH, ZONE R FIVE, IT'S JUST, UM, IT'S NOT OPEN FIELD. IT'S JUST A WOODED AREA WITH, WITH NO, YOU KNOW, NO TYPE OF, UH, IMPROVEMENT OR ANYTHING. OKAY. AND THE ONLY THING THAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS CONSTRUCT AN OFFICE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO. UM, I THINK FROM THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, [01:40:01] UH, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME EVER DOING THIS. AND I THINK MY WORDING AND EVERYTHING, I'M ALSO, UH, THE PRESIDENT OF THE BLACK CONTRACTS ASSOCIATION, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TO BETTER THE COMMUNITY WAS TO, UH, HAVE AN APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM WHERE WE WOULD BRING YOUTH IN AND, YOU KNOW, GIVE CLASSES AND STUFF LIKE THAT TO THEM AND BETTER THEIR SKILL AND THEIR SCHOLARSHIP ON, YOU KNOW, GIVING THEM A SKILLED, UM, YOU KNOW, TRADE IF YOU WOULD. AND THAT'S WHERE I PUT A CONFERENCE CENTER, A CONFERENCE ROOM. 'CAUSE WE WERE UTILIZED THAT SPACE, YOU KNOW, TO DOVE AS CLASSROOM, TO DOVE AS MEETING SPACE, YOU KNOW, STUFF LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE CONFUSION, UH, CAME IN BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, FOR ME, THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON HOW TO WORD OR WHAT I NEEDED TO DO. AND SO THEY SAID, OKAY, UH, I REQUESTED C THREE, BUT AT THE LAST MEETING, I TOLD THEM I WILL BE WILLING TO DROP IT TO WHEREVER I NEED TO BECAUSE MY MAIN OBJECTIVE IS TO OPEN A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING FOR MY COMPANY THAT, YOU KNOW, MY FIRST PRIORITY. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, IF YOU'LL STAND BY, UH, TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TIME TO RESPOND AND WE LIKELY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES. OKAY. YES. UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC, UH, COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE'RE GONNA PLAY THE VOICEMAIL FOR YOU NOW. GOOD MORNING. THIS IS FOR ZONING, CASE NUMBER Z 2020 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 2. MY NAME IS GINA RIO, AND MY HOME IS 1 97 GROVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS 7 8 2 2 0. I'M IN FAVOR FOR MR. JOE MONROE'S PROPERTY TO BE REZONED. MR. MONROE HAS A PROFESSIONAL ESTABLISHMENT AND WILL BE SURROUNDING HIS PROPERTY WITH A SIX FOOT METAL FENCING. MR. MONROE'S PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED BY OPEN ACRES, WHICH WILL NOT IMPACT SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS ON GROVE ROAD. MY HOME IS THREE ACRES FROM HIS PROPERTY. BEHIND HIM IS OPEN ACRES WITH A CHURCH. IN FRONT OF HIM IS AN OPEN ACRE, AND NEXT TO HIM IS ASSIGNED SHOP WITH AN ACRE IN BETWEEN. MR. MONROE IS A RESPECTFUL BUSINESSMAN AND REZONING WILL OPPORTUNITY TO THE COMMUNITY ON, UH, MY NAME IS YOLANDA RIO, AND I LIVE AT 1 7 2 GROVE ROAD. I AM IN FAVOR OF MR. MONROE REZONING HIS PROPERTY. I WELCOME HIS COMPANY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU. MY ZONING CASE IS Z 20 20 10 70 92. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE. THANK YOU. UM, I GUESS YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY, MR. GROVE. OKAY. MR. GROVE. I, I'M SORRY. MR. MONROE . WELL, I, I WOULD LIKE TO ABSOLUTELY. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT, UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, SIR. OKAY. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE, UH, THE BOARD THAT, UH, IN MY, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST TWO SLIDES, LIKE I SAID, I TRIED TO PUT TOGETHER A SCENARIO, UH, BUSINESS PLAN AS TO, UH, FURTHER, UM, I GUESS SPEAK TO WHAT, WHAT IT IS THAT I'M TRYING TO DO, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, AFTER TALKING TO A COUPLE OF THE NEIGHBORS AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, ALL THE ONES THAT WAS IN OPPOSITION OF IT, UM, TRIED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF THE CONCERN, WELL, THE MAJOR CONCERN THAT CAME FROM THEM WAS THAT ZONING OF C THREE. IT OPENS UP THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A, UM, BAR OR, YOU KNOW, WATERING HOLE. LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE LAST, UM, CASE THAT WAS UP. THAT IS NOTHING THAT I'M TRYING TO DO. I'M TRYING TO OPEN A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT OTHERS THAT ARE TRYING TO, UH, THAT NEEDS AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL. AND, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO IT WAS BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE [01:45:01] USE OF ALCOHOL AND STUFF LIKE THAT, DRUNK DRIVERS ON THE STREET. WELL, THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF MY BUSINESS. AND LIKE I SAID AT THE LAST MEETING, I'M WILLING TO DROP IT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER LEVEL IT NEEDS TO BE, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME DOING THIS, AND I DID NOT UNDERSTAND. I, I KNOW WHAT I READ AND I KNOW WHAT WAS IN MY MINDSET, YOU KNOW, AS TO WHAT I WAS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH ME OPENING A COMMERCIAL, UH, OFFICE SPACE, YOU KNOW, WITH WHATEVER ZONING IT IS, THEN I'M OPEN FOR IT. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. ON THE PROPERTY, THERE'S ADEQUATE SPACE FOR PARKING FOR ME TO DO PARKING. UM, AND I THINK, UH, I LOOKED IT UP, YOU KNOW, THE ALLOTTED PARKING SPACES FOR, UM, APPROXIMATELY 180 SQUARE FEET, YOU KNOW, NOT INCLUDING HANDICAP, YOU KNOW, AND THIS PLAN WOULD BE UTILIZED ON A ONE ACRE LOT, UH, OF 43, UH, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY. YOU KNOW, AND THIS WILL ALLOW FOR 242 PARKING SPACES. WELL, I DON'T THINK I'LL EVER HAVE 242 CARS PARKED THERE AT ANY, ANY GIVEN TIME. OKAY. AND THERE WOULD DEFINITELY BE, THERE WOULD DEFINITELY BE, NO, AND I THINK THE OTHER CONCERN ABOUT HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE, UH, I THINK PART OF THE MISCOMMUNICATION WAS THAT I'M A, I DEEM MYSELF AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR. YES. UH, CONSTRUCTION. YES. BUT I'M A SMALL CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. I DON'T OWN HEAVY EQUIPMENT, BACKHOE AND LOADERS, ALL THAT STUFF. IF I HAVE A JOB THAT NEEDS THAT STUFF, IT'S RENTED AND THE RENTERS, UH, TAKE IT STRAIGHT TO THE JOB SITE. THEY DON'T BRING IT TO MY OFFICE, YOU KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, IF YOU'LL STAND BY, WE PROBABLY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. SO I'M TRYING TO UNMUTE. WE CAN, WE CAN HEAR YOU. OH, OKAY. UM, I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF. UM, IF HE DROPS IT DOWN TO A C2, WILL THAT ACCOMMODATE HIS, UH, BUSINESS PLAN? SO EVEN IF IT WAS A A C A C TWO OR A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, IT'S STAFF'S OPINION THAT COMMERCIAL ENCROACHMENT MID-BLOCK IS NOT APPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA. BUT IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, UM, YES, YOU CAN DO THE USE THAT HE'S PROPOSING WITH A CONDITIONAL USE IN C TWO, UM, AND, AND REQUEST THAT AMENDED TODAY. IT COULD BE A MOTION FOR THAT TODAY. HOWEVER, WE WOULD STILL NOT RECOMMEND BECAUSE THIS IS, UM, WITHIN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. MM-HMM. , AND WE, AND WE WOULD NEED A SITE PLAN. OKAY. SO A SITE PLAN HAS NOT BEEN SUBMITTED? UH, NO MA'AM. IT'S NOT REQUIRED OF, OF A OUTRIGHT, UM, A ZONE ONE ZONING DISTRICT TO ANOTHER. IT'S ONLY FOR CONDITIONAL USES. IN SPECIFIC USES. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UH, MR. MONROE, WOULD YOU BE, UH, INTERESTED, UH, WILLING TO, UM, SUBMIT THE PLAN AND, AND GO WITH A CONTINUANCE SO THAT YOU CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE A BETTER CHANCE TO EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE DOING? BECAUSE THE MAIN OBJECTIVES SEEM TO BE NO ALCOHOL, NO CLUB, NO, THAT KIND OF THING. I, I THINK THEY BE, I THINK YOU, YOU KNOW, MAY HAVE REQUESTED MORE, BUT I KNOW THE AREA VERY WELL, AND COMANCHE PARK IS IN THE FRONT, AND SO I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF YOU WOULD EVEN SEE THE BUILDING WHERE IT IS, BUT I THINK YOU MAY NEED TO, I, I THINK I WOULD SUGGEST A CONTINUANCE AND IF YOU WOULD BE WILLING SO THAT YOU CAN SUBMIT THAT AND, UM, HAVE A MORE APPROPRIATE ZONING REQUEST. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. OKAY. I'M SORRY. UM, COM, UH, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? [01:50:01] I, OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. SO I, I HAVE A QUESTION. SO, UH, TO STAFF. SO IF HE'S JUST LOOKING FOR PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, I GUESS WITH THE CONFERENCE ROOM OR A CONFERENCE SPACE, SO IS IT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? SO WOULD IT NOT BE LIKE AN O ONE, UH, BE A POSSIBILITY OR C ONE? SO WHAT OTHER, UM, WHAT OTHER, UM, ZONING CATEGORIES CAN AN OFFICE BUILDING BE DEPENDING ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE? SO THE USE THAT HE'S DESCRIBING IS NOT A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, UH, IS SORT OF LIKE AN ACCOUNTANT, A LAWYER, UH, REAL ESTATE, THOSE ARE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES. MM-HMM. , WHAT HE'S DESCRIBING IS A CROSS BETWEEN A VOCATIONAL TRADE SCHOOL WHERE, UH, HE'S TALKING ABOUT DOING AN APPRENTICESHIP, APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM FOR YOUTH ON SITE RELATED TO, UM, CON OR CONTRACTOR, UH, SPACE. MM-HMM. . AND THEN HE'S TALKING ABOUT A SMALL CONTRACTOR FACILITY. IT MAY NOT BE A LARGE ONE, BUT IT IS A LARGE CONTRACTOR FACILITY. I MEAN, IT, IT'S A CONTRACTOR FACILITY, WHICH REQUIRES MORE RESTRICTIVE ZONING THAN A PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. SO WE CAN ONLY CONDITION DOWN SO FAR FOR THOSE TYPE OF USES. WE CAN'T GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO AN OH ONE OR AN NC BASED ON THAT. SO A CONTINUANCE WOULD ALLOW US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH HIM TO DETERMINE WHAT IS HIS EXACT USE, BECAUSE, UM, A CONDITIONAL USE CAN, YOU CAN ONLY DO ONE CONDITIONAL USE PER PROPERTY. SO WE JUST NEED TO WORK WITH HIM TO DEFINE EXACTLY WHAT IT IS NOW THAT HE WANTS BASED ON WHAT HE STARTED WITH AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS PROCESS. PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND, AND JUST FOR MY EDIFICATION, UM, SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN OFFICE AND A SMALL CONTRACTOR FACILITY IS THE USE, BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT IN THE PARKING LOT, OR THAT WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DETERMINES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE LIKE AN AN ATTORNEY VERSUS A SMALL CONTRACTOR? THE TELLTALE SIGN USUALLY IS GOING TO BE THE UTILITY TRUCK THAT'S PARKED THERE. IT MAY NOT HAVE LARGE EQUIPMENT THAT'S STORED THERE. MM-HMM. . BUT THE FACT THAT A CON YOUR, YOUR CONTRACTOR TRUCK IS, IS THERE, THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS. OKAY. YOU'RE DOING SERVICES RELATED TO YOUR CONTRACT, YOUR CONTRACTOR OPERATION. GOT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME UNDERSTAND THAT. ALRIGHT. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER JONES. OH, THERE YOU'RE, YES. UM, I MOVE FOR A CONTINUANCE. UM, C THE EITHER TWO WEEKS OR FOUR, I WOULD SUGGEST FOR THE FOUR WEEKS. FOUR WEEKS. I THINK IT'S NOVEMBER 3RD. YES, MA'AM. MM-HMM. . UH, SO IS THAT, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A FOUR WEEK, UM, COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, I AM. THIS IS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE. I SECOND THE MOTION FOR A FOUR WEEK CONTINUANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR A CONTINUANCE TILL, UH, NOVEMBER 3RD WITH A SECOND BY, UM, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMIN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UH, WE CAN HEAR YES. COMMISSIONER SI? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 TO ZERO. OKAY. UM, UM, COMMISSIONERS, ARE YOU READY TO KEEP MOVING OR DOES IF YOU NEED A BREAK, UH, THUMBS UP. OKAY, WE'RE READY TO KEEP MOVING. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER 15 [01:55:03] IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TRANSITIONAL HOME. ALL ITEM 12, [12. 20-5603 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700196 (Council District 5)] WE HAVE TO GO TO ITEM 12. SORRY, EXCUSE ME, WE'RE BACKING UP. . ITEM NUMBER 12 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM I ONE TO I ONE I D Z WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. LOCATED AT SIX 12 NOGA STREET, THERE WERE 28 NOTICES MAILED. ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, ONE RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION, AND ONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR OUTSIDE 200 FEET. AND THE COLLINS GARDENS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT. STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEIGHBOR LA NEIGHBORING LANDS. IN RELATION TO THE ZONING CHANGE REQUEST, THE BASE DISTRICT OF I ONE WILL REMAIN THE SAME. THE REQUESTED I D Z OVERLAYS IS ALSO APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE AND WILL WAIVE PARKING FOR THE EXISTING BUSINESS STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. IS, MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? HI, YES. THIS IS, UH, FERNANDO DE LEON AND I AM THE APPLICANT. AND RIGHT NOW WITH ME IS THE, UH, OWNERS, UH, CHARLIE UNA AND NORA SIERRA. UH, AND NORA WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UH, UH, SAY A FEW WORDS BEFORE I COULD GET INTO THE, UH, UM, THE, THE, UM, THE CASE. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US THIS AFTERNOON. THIS IS NORA SIERRA. JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF, UH, HISTORY ON THIS PROPERTY. I WAS BUILT ROUGHLY IN 1954, UH, FOR NATIONAL LINEN, UH, LAUNDRY, WHICH WAS A LAUNDRY THAT OPERATED OUT OF THERE. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY WERE THE ONLY TENANTS. UH, WE BOUGHT IT AROUND 1999, AT WHICH TIME IT WAS VACANT. AND IN THIS REPAIR BOARDED UP WINDOWS ALL BROKEN. UM, WE PURCHASED IT WITH THE INTENT OF CONTINUING WITH THE SAME USE BECAUSE AT THE TIME WE OPERATED A LARGE LAUNDRY. WE USED TO WATCH FOR LEVI STRAUS AT THE TIME, JEANS AND JACKETS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. UH, BUT WE NEVER DID OPERATE A LAUNDRY OUT OF THERE. WE USED IT MAINLY AS A WAREHOUSE, WHICH WE DID. UM, UM, WE ENDED UP OPERATING OUR LAUNDRY AT ANOTHER LOCATION AND KEPT THIS LOCATION, THE ALITOS BUILDING AS A WAREHOUSE FOR APPROXIMATELY 17 YEARS. DURING THOSE YEARS, WE CLEARED, CLEANED IT, PAINTED IT AT LEAST THREE TIMES. WE SPENT IT, WE REPLACED ALL THE BROKEN WINDOWS, AND HE MAINTAINED IT CLEANED, WHICH HAS BEEN OUR NATURE TO DO WITH ALL OF OUR PROPERTIES. WITH THE PASSING OF NFDA. UM, OUR CLOTHING MANUFACTURING BUSINESS, UNFORTUNATELY, HAD CLOSED AND THE ALITOS PROPERTY REMAINED THE WAREHOUSE UNTIL SOMETIME AROUND 2017. WE BEGAN THE PROCESS OF REVITALIZING THE PROPERTY, AS WE HAVE DONE TO SEVERAL OTHER PROPERTIES IN SAN ANTONIO, MAINLY TO THE SOUTH FLORES CORRIDOR PROBABLY OVER THE LAST FEW DECADES. UM, MY HUSBAND COINED THE NAME , UM, PROBABLY EVER AT 1998, HE WAS ABLE TO BRING BACK TO LIFE MANY ABANDONED VACANT PROPERTIES, WHICH NOW HOUSE THE SURROUNDING AREA AROUND AND SOUTH TOWN THAT ARE NOW CONDOMINIUMS, APARTMENTS, UH, PEOPLE SUCH AS THE A I A CITY DEPARTMENTS, ET CETERA. UM, THIS IS THE VERY FIRST TIME THAT WE APPROACHED THE ZONING COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL WITHIN E S U. OUR TENANT OF THIS PROPERTY IS, UM, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES FOR PENALTY TAPESTRY, WHICH IS A DIVISION OF THE CHILDREN'S SHELTER, A 100 YEAR OLD NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION WHO HAS A CONTRACT WITH THE STATE OF TEXAS TO MANAGE THE FOSTER CARE SYSTEM AS A COMMUNITY BASED BASED CARE. AND THIS IS FOR A JUDGE'S MANDATE, SO THEY MANAGE IT FOR BEAR COUNTY. THESE ARE STRICTLY THEIR OFFICES AND IT'S MOSTLY, UM, UM, SOCIAL SERVICES, SOCIAL WORKERS THAT, UM, ARE ADDING THE COMMUNITY. AND THEY COME IN HERE TO SEE THEIR, THEIR SUPERVISORS AND THEIR MANAGEMENT. UM, UH, SO THAT IS THE, THE ONLY TENANT AT THIS PROPERTY. SO NOW I HAND IT OVER TO BACK TO FERNANDO. SO IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE AT HAND. HELLO, THIS IS FERNANDO. UM, AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUILDING, WHAT WE'RE DOING. THIS BUILDING, LIKE NOA SAID, IT WAS AN INDUSTRIAL USE. AND, UM, WE STILL, INSTEAD OF, UH, HAVING IT AND USING IT AS A WAREHOUSE, NOW WE'RE USING IT AS AN OFFICE BUILDING AND IT'S HOUSING THE FAMILY TAPESTRY. UM, [02:00:01] WHAT WE DID ABOUT, UH, 2, 2, 3 YEARS AGO, WE OBTAINED A, A PERMIT, UH, TO DO PHASE ONE OF THE CONSTRUCTION, THIS BUILDING, IN ORDER TO FACILITATE AND CREATE LESS ISSUES FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND OURSELVES. WE DIVIDED THE CONSTRUCTION INTO THREE PHASES. UH, PHASE ONE IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S THE OFFICES WHERE RIGHT NOW FAMILY TAPESTRY ARE, ARE DOING BUSINESS OFF. AND, UH, AND THEY REQUIRE SO MUCH PARKING SPACES WHERE WE'RE GIVING, UH, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BECAUSE WE DID, AT THAT TIME, HAD ENOUGH, UH, PARKING FOR THE PHASE ONE. THEN, UH, ONCE WE FINISHED PHASE ONE, WE STARTED WITH PHASE TWO OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND ALSO REQUIRED MORE PARKING SPACES. AND, UH, AND AT THAT TIME, WE DECIDED TO USE THE MIDDLE OF THE BUILDING, UH, AS A PARKING GARAGE, AN ENCLOSED PARKING GARAGE. UH, BUT THAT PARKING GARAGE WAS ALSO BEING USED BY, BY THE CONSTRUCTION OF OUR BUILDING, WHICH WAS DEBRIS, UH, PARKING FOR THE, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION WORK WORKERS AND, AND SO ON AND SO ON. UH, WE DID GET A TEMPORARY SEAL WALL FOR PHASE TWO. UH, SO RIGHT NOW IS NOT TOTAL. THE, THE BUILDING IS NOT TOTALLY, OR THAT PHASE IS NOT TOTALLY BEING USED BY FAMILY TAPESTRY. IT'S, UM, IT'S USED, UH, IT'S USED BY THEM, BUT A VERY MINIMUM CAPACITY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE COVID AND ALL THAT. NOW, WHEN WE MOVED TO PHASE THREE, WHICH IS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY, THAT'S WHERE WE HAD TO, IN, IN ORDER TO, UH, SUBMIT PLANS TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND GO THROUGH THE, UH, PERMITTING PROCESS, PHASE THREE, WE, WE, WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, USE THAT AS A FLEX SPACE, WHICH MEANS OFFICE USE WITH WAREHOUSING. UH, AND THAT WAS IN ORDER TO MEET THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR PHASE ONE, PHASE TWO, AND PHASE THREE COMBINED. UH, WE ARE PROPOSING WITH THIS, UH, PERMIT WITH ALL THREE PERMITS, 80 PARKING SPACES. SO WE MEET THE CODE RIGHT NOW FOR 80 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY CODE. WE HAVE THAT, BUT OUR ISSUE THAT PHASE THREE IS STILL CONSIDERED OFFICE WAREHOUSE, A FLEXIBLE SPACE. WE AND FAMILY TAPESTRY ARE STILL WANT TO USE THE ENTIRE BUILDING AS AN OFFICE. THEY DON'T WANT THE WAREHOUSING TO BE THERE. WE DON'T WANT TO LEASE IT TO NOBODY ELSE THAT WILL HAVE INDUSTRIAL USES. SO IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UH, WE WILL NEED ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES TO CONVERT THE WAREHOUSES INTO OFFICE SPACE. AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR I D C ZONING. NOW, UH, THE I D C WILL NOT, IN OUR CASE, WILL NOT RELIEVE US FROM NOT PROVIDING ANY PARKING SPACE AND CREATING ANY ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE STREET. NO. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, UM, MEET THE STILL COMPLY AND, AND, AND PROVIDE PARKING SPACES FOR ALL OUR, UH, FOR OUR TENANTS AND ALL THE EMPLOYEES. BUT WE WANNA RECONFIGURE THIS PARKING SPACE IN A DIFFERENT, UH, IN A DIFFERENT, UH, DESIGN WHERE WE COULD PROBABLY BE ABLE TO USE MORE COMPACT CARS AND WHAT THE CODE ALLOW US. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ALSO NEED I D C ZONING. SO IT COULD RELIEVE US FROM THE REQUIREMENT OF SO MANY PARKING, UH, COMPACT PARKING SPACES. I THINK IF WE GET AN I D C, WE'RE ABLE TO GO BACK, REDESIGN OUR PARKING SPACE AND PROVIDE MORE PARKING SPACE. BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT WHEN THE CODE ONLY ALLOWS SO MANY COMPACT CARS. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR I D C. UM, SO IN THAT CASE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO ADD MORE, UH, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE, WE THINK THAT WE COULD PROVIDE ADDITIONALLY ABOUT MAYBE 10 50 MORE PARKING SPACES, AND WE GET THE I D C AND WE RELAX THE, UH, THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THE COMPACT CARS AND THE REGULAR PARKING SPACES. AND THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU, SIR. , ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, MA'AM. WE'LL PLAY THE VOICEMAIL. THIS, THE ZONING CASE NUMBER 1 0 7 0 0 1 1 9 6. UM, I'M CALLING TO OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE AT 6 1 2 STREET. CURRENTLY, THE PARKING IS AN ISSUE WITH THE BUSINESS THAT IS THERE. UM, THE TENANT IS PROPOSING TO ADDING ANOTHER ADDITIONAL 1000 [02:05:01] SQUARE FEET OF OFFICE SPACE, WHICH WOULD NEED EVEN MORE ADDITIONAL PARKING, WHICH IS NOT THERE. UM, THE BUSINESS IS PARKING ALONG THE STREETS OF THE RESIDENCE. IN PARTICULAR, MY STREET IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE BUSINESS. AND THE, THERE ARE, UM, PEOPLE FROM THE BUSINESS, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS PARKING ON THE STREET OF STRUGGLING. MY DRIVEWAY HASN'T PASSED, UH, BLOCKED IN THE PAST. THERE'S NO ROOM FOR THE RESIDENTS TO PARK. UM, THE STREET IS A NARROW STREET, THEREFORE NO EMERGENCY VEHICLES CAN GET THROUGH THAT STREET IF NECESSARY, WHEN ONE SIDE OF THE STREET IS COMPLETELY BLOCKED OFF WITH THE TENANTS FROM 6 1 2 ALITOS. UM, THIS ZONING CHANGE, THEY ARE ASKING SO THAT THEIR PARKING REQUIREMENT IS NOT AS MUCH, MEANING THEY WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO HAVE AS MANY PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ZONES THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE FOR THE AMOUNT OF OFFICE SPACE. AND SINCE THE PARKING PROBLEM IS AN ISSUE NOW, THIS WILL ADDING MORE OFFICE SPACE AND LESS PARKING WILL CREATE EVEN MORE PROBLEMS. UM, CURRENTLY BECAUSE OF COVID, THE OFFICE PERSONNEL ISN'T COMING AS OFTEN, BUT THIS IS A PROBLEM AND I OPPOSE THE ZONING CHANGE. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. THANK YOU. UM, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO, UH, RESPOND MR. DELIO? UH, YES. UM, YES, I WOULD. UM, THE, UH, THE SITUATION THAT SHE'S PROBABLY REFERRING TO WAS PRIOR TO US HAVING THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES, UH, YES, WE, WE HAD CONSTRUCTION WORKERS PARKING ALONG, UH, UH, STRIDING AND AVA. BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THE, THIS PRIOR BUILDING, THE PRIOR TENANT WHEN HE WAS INDUSTRIAL, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PARKING, UH, IN THIS, UH, IN THIS BUILDING. SO PEOPLE WERE PARKING WHERE THEY COULD, NOW THAT'S BEING, UH, RECTIFIED BY US PROVIDING PARKING SPACES FOR OUR, FOR A TENANT. AND, UH, WHEN, UH, WHEN SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, WAS PROBABLY ABOUT TWO, TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE ONLY HAD THE FRONT, UH, AREA, WHICH WAS ABOUT 10 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE FOR THE ENTIRE BUILDING. SO THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PARKING FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS. BUT NOW WE DO HAVE, UH, THE PARKING AT THE FRONT, WHICH IS ABOUT 14 PARKING SPACES WE'RE PROPOSING, OR WE ALREADY HAVE, UH, THE ENCLOSED PARKING GARAGE AND, UH, AND THAT THAT'S GONNA HOUSE ABOUT 53 PARKING SPACES. AND THEN TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, BETWEEN THE BAKERY AND OUR, AND OUR BUILDING, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 11 PARKING SPACES. SO, SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE, UM, RECTIFYING THIS ISSUE AND PROVIDING PARKING, WHICH, UH, PREVIOUSLY DIDN'T HAVE. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM, JUST FOR THE COMMISSIONER'S INFORMATION, I PULLED THIS IN LARGE PART BECAUSE, UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A SITE PLAN ORIGINALLY. UM, AND I REQUESTED IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I READ THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THERE WAS NO PARKING HERE. AND THE WAY THAT THIS SITE LOOKS, AT LEAST FROM, UH, THE INFORMATION PROVIDED, THERE DID NOT APPEAR TO BE ANY PARKING, WHICH OF COURSE WOULD RAISE SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS. UM, IF WE CAN GET THE SITE PLAN UP, PLEASE. THANK YOU. UH, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THERE ARE 80 SPOTS CURRENTLY PLANNED HERE. STAFF. HOW MANY SPOTS WOULD BE REQUIRED UNDER BASIC, UM, UNDER NON IDZ ZONING? UH, SO PARKING IS GONNA BE BASED ON USE. OKAY. UH, SO WE WOULD NEED TO KNOW THE ACTUAL USE AND THEN DETERMINE WHAT THOSE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE, ASSUMING THE OFFICE USE FOR ALL OF THE USABLE SPACE IN THAT REGARD. ACCEPTING THAT, UH, CENTER GARAGE PORTION. I, I THINK, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. IT MIGHT BE ONE FOR EVERY TWO 50 GROSS FLOOR AREA. OKAY. SO ADDING ON 1,100 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE FIVE SPOTS TOTAL. UH, IF IT WAS ONE TO TWO 50, CORRECT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND SO REALLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, STAFF IS, UH, AN INCREASE OF ABOUT THREE TO FOUR SPOTS, OR RATHER A DECREASE THAT IF THEY HAD OTHER ZONING, UM, [02:10:01] NON I D Z ZONING, WE'D BE LOOKING AT 83 84 SPOTS TOTAL. IS THAT APPROXIMATELY CORRECT? UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN? I DON'T KNOW THAT WE UNDERSTOOD IT. OKAY. SO RIGHT NOW THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING WITH CODE IN THAT, THAT TOP PHASE THREE, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 1100 SQUARE FEET ACCORDING TO THE APPLICANT, UM, IS USED AS A MIXED SPACE WAREHOUSE SPACE. BUT THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATE, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BECAUSE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE RIGHT NOW WITH THE SPOTS AVAILABLE. THEY ARE CONS, IF THEY HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, THEN THEY ARE COMPLIANT WITH THE CODE OF STANDARDS THAT THEY WERE REQUIRED TO MEET. OKAY. ALRIGHT. LET ME ASK ONE OTHER THING. ONE THING MR. DELEON SAID STAFF WAS THAT, UM, THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO REDESIGN THE NUM THE PARKING AND THEREFORE INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS AVAILABLE. UH, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE HEARD THAT STAFF. IS THAT A CORRECT UNDERSTANDING? I IF HE WAS REFERENCING THE COMPACT SPACES, THAT MIGHT BE WHAT HE, WHAT HE, HE IS TALKING ABOUT. I THINK THE CODE, UH, GIVES YOU A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF COMPACT SPACES THAT YOU CAN'T SUCCEED. UH, BUT THE I D Z IS AN OVERLAY WAVE, ANY MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING STANDARDS. BUT IF YOU ARE PROVIDING PARKING AND YOU JUST, YOU HAVE TO MEET CODES, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE PARKING SPACES. BUT AGAIN, YOU WOULD, YOU WOULDN'T BE ASSESSED MAXIMUM OR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. OKAY. AND THEN, UH, MR. GALLION COULD PROBABLY CHIME IN BASED ON WHAT HE WAS REFERRING TO AS WELL. UH, YOU, UH, REQUIRES BY CODE TO BE ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 300 SQUARE FEET. THAT'S WHAT THE DAKOTA LOST. AND YES, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR PHASE ONE. WE HAD A, A TEMPORARY C O O FOR PHASE TWO, AND WE HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT FOR PHASE THREE. SO WE DO MEET THE CODE RIGHT NOW. AND, UH, SO WHERE WE'RE TRYING IS YES, YOU, YOU'RE CORRECT. WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, CONVERT THE LAST ON PHASE THREE, THE LAST LITTLE AREA THAT WE HAVE AS A WAREHOUSE INTO AN OFFICE USE. SO THE FAMILY TAPESTRY TO CHILDREN'S SHELTER COULD USE THE ENTIRE BUILDING FOR THEIR OFFICE. AND, UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING. THE I D C. NOW WE DO PLAN TO RECONFIGURE THIS PARKING SPACE AND WE'LL MEET WITH STAFF, I MEAN, WITH TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED AND VERY HELPFUL IN, UH, IN ISSUING THE BUILDING PERMITS, UH, WHEN WE MEET THE CODE. BUT THEY'VE BEEN VERY HELPFUL IN DIRECTING US HOW TO DO THAT. AND WE WOULD GO BACK TO THEM AND KEEP WORKING WITH 'EM AND SEE HOW ELSE WE COULD, UH, RECONFIGURE THIS AREA WITH THE I D C IN MIND AND, UH, AND PROVIDE MORE PARKING SPACE, NOT LESS PARKING SPACES. AND THEN THAT WAS GONNA BE MY QUESTION, MR. DELEON, IT'S NOT YOUR INTENTION IN RECONFIGURING THIS, THIS PARKING SPACE TO GET FEWER NUM FEWER CARS IN THIS AREA? TH THAT IS CORRECT, YES. IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR TENANT. IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE MORE PARKING SPACES, BUT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY BY USING THE I T C. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. DELEON, UH, TO ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? UM, I BELIEVE THE PARKING IS PREDICATED ON FORECASTED TRAFFIC, NOT PER SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING. UH, THE APPLICANT MENTIONS ONE PARKING SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FEET, BUT THAT THE TRAFFIC BUT , ISN'T IT BASED ON THE TRAFFIC THAT MAY BE FORECASTED PARTICULAR TO WHATEVER THE TYPE OF BUILDING OR WORK IT IS? STAFF, OR MY THOUGHT, IF I MAY, THIS IS THE APPLICANT. FERNANDO. I THINK WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, I THINK IT THE TRAFFIC EFFECT ANALYSIS AND, UH, AND THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO PROVIDE A STUDY, WE WILL HAVE TO HAVE MORE THAN 75 PEAK HOUR TRIPS. AND WE DON'T, WE ARE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THAT. SO, OKAY. THE CITY DID NOT REQUIRE FOR US TO DO A STUDY FOR THIS AREA. NOW, WHEN IT COMES TO A BUILDING PERMIT, UH, FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PARKING SPACES, THE CODE FOR SECTION 35 5 0 1 DOES INDICATE THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO MEET THE ONE FOR 300, UH, ONE PARKING SPACE FOR 300 SQUARE FOOT, [02:15:01] UH, OF GROSS SOLAR AREA PER, UH, THE MINIMUM. THAT IS THE MINIMUM. THEY HAVE A . ALRIGHT, THAT GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH, UH, QUESTIONS? UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UM, SO, UH, QUESTION FOR MR. DEION IN THAT, AGAIN, YOU HAVE RESIDENTS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS BUILDING AND THEY ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT PARKING ON THE STREET. WHAT, WHAT, I DON'T KNOW, COMFORT OR ASSURANCE. CAN YOU GIVE THEM THAT EMPLOYEES OF THESE BUILDINGS, WHETHER THEY'RE CONSTRUCTION WORKERS OR, UH, WHATEVER LEASES YOU MIGHT HAVE, ARE NOT GONNA, IM IMPEDE THE RESIDENTIAL USE OF THAT STREET. UM, WELL, ON, ON THE ONLY RESIDENCE, UH, ARE ACROSS SIBLING ON THE SIBLING SIDE. CORRECT. VAL, WE'RE BUSINESSES ON BOTH SIDES. SO WE HAVE, UH, TALKED TO AGAIN, THIS WHAT THIS, UH, OWNER, WHICH SHE IS AN OWNER, BUT SHE LEASES HER HOUSE. SHE ACTUALLY DOESN'T LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, SHE, UH, SHE'S REFERRING TO WHEN OUR CONSTRUCTION WORKERS WERE PARKING ALONG, UH, STREAMING AND I, AND ALONG SAL, AND THEY WERE PARKING THERE BECAUSE THIS BUILDING DIDN'T HAVE ANY, ANY, UM, PARKING WHEN WE STARTED CONSTRUCTION, IT REFERS THAT IN, IN HER VOICEMAIL OR HER EMAIL THAT IT WAS THE CONSTRUCTION, UH, UH, WORKERS' PARKING. THERE. WE HAVE, NOW THAT WE HAVE PARKING INSIDE, UM, OUR, OUR AREA, ALL OUR EMPLOYEES AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION WORKERS, OUR PARKING, UH, INSIDE THE PARKING GARAGE AND, UH, ON THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY. SO THE, I, IT'S MY BELIEF, AND WE COULD GO AT ANY TIME, UH, THAT THERE'S NO WORKERS PARKING ON, UH, ON STRIBLING AT ANY TIME OF THE DAY. UM, SO, SO THAT'S THE ONLY, THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD. UH, WE HAD A TALK WITH ALL OUR, OUR EMPLOYEES AND, AND, UH, ONCE WE HAD ENOUGH PARKING SPACES, WE MOVE EVERYTHING INDOORS AND, UH, AND STAY AWAY FROM PARKING ON THE STREET. RIGHT. BUT, BUT THE ZONING OVERLAY WOULD STILL BE IN EFFECT. AND WHETHER THE CURRENT OFFICE LEASES STAY AS THEY ARE OR THE BUSINESS DYNAMIC CHANGES IN THE FUTURE, THEN I'M QUESTIONING, WELL, WHAT, WHAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS WAREHOUSE SPACE AND THEY WANT DELIVERY AREA FOR TRUCKING COMING IN AND OUT, SINCE YOU'RE KEEPING YOUR INDUSTRIAL USES, HOW WILL THAT BE HANDLED IF EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE IS CONVERTED TO OFFICE? I MEAN TO YEAH. PARKING FOR OFFICE USE AT THIS TIME. I, I'M JUST, I, I AM NOT A, A FAN OF PUSHING PARKING INTO RESIDENTIAL AREA, AND I GET, IT'S ONLY ON ST. STRIBLING, BUT THERE ARE RESIDENTS LIVING THERE TODAY, AND MY CONCERN IS ABOUT TOMORROW. YEAH. UH, UM, THE, UH, OWNER, MR. CHARLIE AIA WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW. HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD. I'M CHARLENE. I'M THE OWNER. AND, UH, AS, UH, AS YOU HEARD MY WIFE, UH, MENTION TO Y'ALL, WE'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 1999 AND WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY COMPLAINTS UNTIL, UH, MS. MARGARET COMPLAINED. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, UH, SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THAT. BUT, UH, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS AND SHE'S NEVER COMPLAINED TO US IN PERSON. AND WE DID HAVE A COUPLE COMPLAINTS BEFORE, BUT THOSE WERE JUST, UH, BECAUSE OUR SUB CONSTRUCTION WORKERS HAD PARKED IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS IN FRONT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T, UH, IF, IF ANYTHING, THE, THE WAY THE ZONING IS, IT'S INDUSTRIAL, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE TRYING TO REALLY MAKE IT BETTER FOR, UH, FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR EVERYBODY. SO IT WORKS, WORKS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WORK WITH O OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE AREA, UH, BEFORE. SO, YOU KNOW, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO COMPLY AND WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE MORE PARKING SPACES IN THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THEN BACK TO THE BUILDING. RIGHT. BUT YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT YOUR MAINTAINING YOUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING, WHICH MEANS AT SOME POINT YOU COULD RETOOL, REFIT AND START BRINGING IN INDUSTRIAL TYPE SERVICES, DELIVERY TRUCKS, WHAT HAVE YOU. AND THIS PARKING OVERLAY WILL THEN ALLOW FOR TRUCKS, COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, WHAT HAVE YOU, TO PARK ANYWHERE ON THE STREETS AROUND YOUR BUILDING. WELL, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE THAT THE BUILDING'S BEEN CONVERTED MORE, UH, TO MOSTLY [02:20:01] ALL OFFICES EXCEPT FOR THE PARKING, IT WOULD BE PRETTY, UH, VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO CONVERT IT BACK TO INDUSTRIAL. WE WE'RE KEEPING THE, UH, I GUESS THE EYE ZONING IS THERE AND IT REMAINS THERE BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING BETTER THAN WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT NOW. YEAH. AND THE, THE BUILDINGS, THIS IS , UH, THE BUILDINGS ON, UH, THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING FOR PHASE ONE AND TWO, THEY'RE TOTALLY OPPOSITE. THERE IS NOT OFFICE SPACE. THERE IS NO, WE DON'T SEE, FORESEE THAT IT WILL GO BACK AS IN THE INDUSTRIAL UNLESS WE OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT TO DEMOLISH THE WHOLE THING ALL OVER AGAIN. AND WE PUT A LOT OF MONEY AND EFFORT INTO THIS BUILDING. PHASE THREE. IT HAS, UH, IT HAS A FLEX SPACE, WHICH IS THE OFFICE AND THE WAREHOUSE. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, WAREHOUSING AND CONVERTED INTO OFFICE SPACE. WE DON'T WANT THE WAREHOUSING, WE WANT OFFICE SPACE TO BE USED, THIS BUILDING TO BE USED AS OFFICES. AND, UH, BUT WITH THAT, UH, THE CODE REQUIRES MORE PARKING SPACE. AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THE I D C, ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAD SAID IS THE, UH, AND, UH, WE HAD OFFER THAT, UH, WE WE'RE, WE DON'T, UH, WE DON'T OBJECT TO PUTTING ON, ON OUR ANY NO PARKING SIGNS. WE DON'T. IN FACT, WE WELCOME THAT IF YOU WANT. UH, BUT WE DON'T CONTROL IT. WE DON'T CONTROL IT. AND, UH, AND UH, SO IF THEY PUT NO PARKING SIGNS ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT WILL RESOLVE, UH, THE SITUATION OF PARKING IN FRONT OF, UH, THIS PEOPLE'S, UH, RESIDENCE. OKAY. UM, I GUESS, AND, AND MR. DELEON MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THIS BETTER, BUT IF WE'RE CONVERTING THIS PROPERTY TO ALL OFFICE SPACE, I, IS THERE A REASON IN WHY WE NEED TO KEEP INDUSTRIAL ZONING? WELL, THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY MORE FOR A ZONING STAFF THAN ME. UH, I, I MEAN, WE, I MEAN, UH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. IF WE CAN'T DO THE, THE OFFICE SPACE AS AN I D V IN ORDER FOR US TO BE FLEXIBLE ON, ON REDESIGNING THE PARKING SPACES. WE'RE WELCOME. I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT'S NOT FOR ME PROBABLY. BUT COULD STAFF ANSWER THAT QUESTION PLEASE? PROBABLY. SO IT'S ALWAYS GONNA DEPEND ON WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING. SO WHEN THE APPLICATION CAME IN, UM, ALL THEY WERE REQUESTING WAS JUST TO WAIVE THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE THE MOMENT YOU, UH, DOWNONE A PROPERTY, YOU'RE GONNA LOSE, UH, FLEXIBILITY ON USES. UM, IN THIS CASE, UH, THEY DIDN'T INDICATE THAT THEY WANTED TO DOWN ZONE THE PROPERTY TO ANYTHING DIFFERENT OTHER THAN WHAT IT CURRENTLY WAS, JUST WAIVED THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS. PLUS THE LAND USE, UH, FOR THIS AREA, UM, IS, AND THE LONE STAR COMMUNITY PLAN IS BUSINESS PARK. UH, SO THE, UH, EVEN THOUGH THE COMMUNITY PLAN CALLS FOR, UH, A BUSINESS PARK TYPE, UH, LAND USE DESIGNATION, WHICH I ONE IS CONSISTENT WITH SO MANY TIMES, APPLICANTS, UH, TO AVOID A PLAN AMENDMENT WILL, WILL GO WITH WHAT IS CONSISTENT. SO SINCE THE CURRENT BASE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE, THERE'S, THERE'S NO NEED TO REQUEST SOMETHING DIFFERENT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS? OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO STAFF. LIKE ALL I D Z UH, CASES, UH, THERE'S A LIMITATION ON WHAT THEY CAN USE OUTSIDE OF THE GIVEN SITE PLAN. CORRECT. SO IF THAT MIDDLE PORTION OF THE SITE PLAN IS PARKING, THEN THAT SHOULD REMAIN PARKING. IF THE, UH, OTHER USES WHETHER OFFICE OR SOME WAREHOUSING, UH, ON THE FRONT AND THE BACK AND THE PHASE ONE AND THE PHASE TWO AND THE PHASE THREE ARE, UM, DESIGNATED AS OFFICE, THEN THAT SHOULD BE THE USE THERE AS WELL. GIVE OR TAKE THE 10%. CORRECT. ACTUALLY, FOR WHEN SOMEONE IS REQUESTING I B Z AN OVERLAY, THERE IS NO SITE PLAN REQUIREMENT. SO THE SITE PLAN PROVIDED IS JUST INFORMATIONAL ONLY. SO IT'S NOT PART OF ANY ORDINANCE. WHEN I D G IS REQUESTED AS A BASE, DEPENDING UPON THE CATEGORY AND THE ACREAGE, THAT WILL DETERMINE THE SITE PLAN REQUIRED FOR IT. BUT I D G AS AN OVERLAY DOES NOT REQUIRE A SITE PLAN. INTERESTING. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE? [02:25:01] UH, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UM, SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL'S CONCERNS REGARDING THIS PROPERTY AND, AND SHARE SOME OF THEM, UH, WITH RESPECT TO STRIBLING, UM, AND ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE I D C OVERLAY. THAT BEING SAID, HOWEVER, UM, I HAD THE CHANCE TO GO DRIVE AROUND THIS PROPERTY TODAY, UH, PRIOR TO RECEIVING THE SITE PLAN TO SEE EXACTLY HOW THIS RE-IMAGINING EFFECTIVELY OF A WAREHOUSE HAD BEEN, UH, PURSUED HERE ON ALITOS. AND IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE. I THINK, YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS REGARDING PARKING, THAT INTERIOR MIDDLE PORTION THAT PROVIDES THE BULK OF THE PARKING IS I THINK, REALLY A GOOD WAY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. I THINK THEY HAVE ADDRESSED IT. I DIDN'T SEE ANY ISSUES WITH ST. STRIBLING WHILE I WENT AROUND THIS BLOCK. AND SO AS A RESULT, I'M GOING TO MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL ON ITEM NUMBER 12. SECOND, AND SO MOVE SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSER MATE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES. ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UH, COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE, UH, THE LAST STATEMENT ABOUT THE OVERLAY NOT REQUIRING A A, UH, SITE PLAN IS KIND OF WHAT IS INFLUENCED INFLUENCING MY VOTE TO, UH, NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. UM, I THINK IT, IT, IT SEEMS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST A COUPLE PARKING SPACES DIFFERENCE AND LOOKING AT IT, YOU KNOW, GRANTED, I KNOW IT'S NOT, IT'S A ROUGH SITE PLAN, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IF YOU WENT TO ANGLE PARKING, YOU COULD CHANGE UP SOME OF THE PARKING A LITTLE BIT SO THAT YOU COULD GAIN THOSE EXTRA SPACES. UM, I, I JUST THINK THAT FOR ME, IT'S, IT'S, UH, AS COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL STATED, IT'S, IT'S WHAT COULD HAPPEN. AND SEEING THAT THE, UH, THE PARKING IS NOT GUARANTEED BY A SITE PLAN, UM, UNFORTUNATELY, IS GONNA CAUSE ME TO, TO NOT SUPPORT THE MOTION. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMISSIONER'S DISCUSSION? OKAY. ALL RIGHT. UM, C N NONE, UH, THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS FOR APPROVAL. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JOE? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMI? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE HI COMMISSIONER ROMERO. MAKE SURE MR. ROMERO, THERE YOU GO. I COULDN'T HEAR YOU FIRST TIME. MAKE SURE TO HIT UNMUTE. THERE YOU GO. YES. OKAY. SORRY. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS. I THINK SHE HAD TO STEP AWAY FOR HER CALL. OH, OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO SHE'S, SHE STEPPED AWAY. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? NO. COMMISSIONER SIPES? NO. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. EIGHT TO TWO. OKAY, THANK YOU. I THINK THAT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC TIME FOR OUR BREAK, . IT'S CURRENTLY THREE 30, SO IF WE COULD COME BACK ABOUT 3 35 ISH PLEASE. THANK YOU. WE'RE LIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO WE ARE RETURNING BACK INTO SESSION AFTER A SHORT BREAK AT 3:38 PM AND STAFF, UM, WE'RE READY FOR THE NEXT CASE. THANK YOU. [13. 20-5773 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700197 (Council District 6)] ITEM NUMBER 13 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX AND I ONE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME TO RMM FOUR WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 7,400 BLOCK OF STATE HIGHWAY 1 51. THERE WERE 150 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, FOUR RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION AND NO RESPONSE FROM MEADOW VILLAGE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. THE EXISTING R SIX RESIDENTIAL SIGNAL [02:30:01] FAMILY BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE AREA. THE EXISTING I ONE IS NOT APPROPRIATE. THE PROPOSED R FOUR BASED ZONING CONSTITUTES A A DOWN ZONING OF A MORE INTENSE ZONING DISTRICT AND IS IS APPROPRIATE ABUTTING RESIDENTIAL USES IN ZONING STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE PPLICANT PLEASE? YES. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. IT'S ASHLEY FAIRMONT, KILLING GRIFFIN IN FAIRMONT. UM, I JUST, I HOPE, UH, STAFF HAS A PRESENTATION AS IF POSSIBLE. UM, THANK YOU. SO I'M JOINED TODAY, UM, BY BRUTA, BRUNA SPRINGER WITH PIT DAWSON ENGINEERS, AS WELL AS MATT MAJORS, WHO'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS FOR TEXAS BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE. UH, SLIDE TWO PLEASE. SO THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS 76 ACRES OR SO AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF 1 51 AND FOUR 10. UH, THIS PROPERTY IS OWNED AND HAS BEEN OWNED FOR OVER 50 YEARS BY THE TEXAS BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE. AND FOR THIS ENTIRE TIME IT'S REMAINED VACANT. UM, AND YOU CAN LOOK JUST NORTH OF 1 51. THE BIOMED CAMPUS IS, IS LOCATED THERE, SO IT IS CLOSE TO THE CAMPUS, BUT IT'S ACROSS FROM THE HIGHWAY. UM, THESE TRACKS ARE ALSO SEPARATED THE IN BETWEEN THE TWO ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THEN THE ONE ON THE EAST IS SEPARATED BY TOMS LAKE PARK, WHICH IS A CITY PARK. THAT'S SLIDE THREE, PLEASE. UH, THIS SIDE IS A ZOOMED OUT ZONING MAP SHOWING SOME OF THE LARGER AREA, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE THREE TRACKS FOR PURPOSES OF OUR DISCUSSIONS. SO THE WESTERNMOST TRACK, THIS TRACKS ONE AND THEN TRACK TWO. AND THEN ON THE EAST WE HAVE TRACK THREE. TRACK ONE AND TWO ARE ABOUT 41 ACRES TOGETHER, AND TRACK THREE IS ABOUT 35. UM, AND YOU CAN SEE ON HERE THE ZONING IS A COMBINATION, AS CHRISTY MENTIONED, THE YELLOW IS THE R SIX SINGLE FAMILY AND THE PURPLE IS THE I ONE INDUSTRIAL ZONING. UM, SLIDE FOUR PLEASE. THIS IS JUST A ZOOMED OUT VERSION OF THE ZONING MAP. YOU CAN SEE THE R SIX AND THE I ONE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEARLY, BUT I'D ALSO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THE RMM FOUR HERE. UH, SO BIOMED IS WORKING WITH LENNAR HOMES ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ON ALL THREE OF THESE TRACKS. THE HOMES THAT ARE PROPOSED WILL BE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH A MINIMUM OF 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. UH, THERE'S A, A LARGE DEMAND IN THE AREA AND, AND WE CONTINUE TO HEAR AT ZONING COMMISSION THROUGHOUT OUR CITY FOR AFFORDABLE NEW SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. AND THIS IS A REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO PURCHASE AND OWN THEIR OWN HOMES. WE THINK THIS IS A GOOD LOCATION FOR HOUSING WITHIN CITY LIMITS AND IT'S EASILY ACCESSIBLE ONTO 1 51. UM, JUST A CLARIFICATION ON THE RN DESIGNATION. WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS TO ALLOW FOR A SMALLER REAR SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR THE INTERIOR LOTS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT. SO R FOUR, RM FOUR, R SIX, THEY ALL HAVE THAT SAME FIVE FOOT SIDE SETBACK REQUIREMENT, BUT RM FOUR DOES ALLOW FOR A 10 FOOT REAR SETBACK INSTEAD OF A 20 FOOT REAR SET SETBACK, WHICH THE EXISTING R SIX ALLOWS FOR. SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS THAT JUST THE 10 FOOT, THEY'RE STILL PRESENTING IT, THEY JUST GAVE ME FOR QUESTIONS, SO IT'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE. UM, SORRY. UM, SO THE, OKAY, EXCUSE ME. THE, UM, THE EXTERIOR LOT. SO IT'S IMPORTANT, UM, THAT THEY HAVE THE SAME SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AS THE ADJACENT R SIX LOTS AND WE DIDN'T WANNA CHANGE WHAT'S PROPOSED ON THE PROPERTY NOW. SO, UM, THE REAR LOTS WILL HAVE A 20 FOOT SETBACK, UM, TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THAT STAYS THE SAME AND STAYS CONSISTENT. UM, IT'S THE INTERIOR LOCK THAT WILL HAVE THAT SET BACK. I'M, I'M SORRY. CAN Y'ALL HEAR THAT IN THE BACKGROUND? YES, WE CAN. MM-HMM. ? YES, IT'S COMING FROM YOUR, YOUR TELECONFERENCE, ASHLEY? YEAH, LET ME, UM, YEAH, THERE'S A POND. OKAY, ONE SECOND. I'M SORRY. THIS IS, THIS IS PRETTY NASTY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE NOTATION THAT, UM, BECAUSE WE WERE RECORD, WE WERE RECORDING, I MEAN, STARTED RECORDING AFTER THE INDICATION THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS RECUSED AND HER CAMERA AND MICROPHONE ARE ON. YOU STILL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, SO, OKAY, ASHLEY, I, I JUST, ARE YOU, ARE YOU TELLING I BROUGHT THE CALL THE PEOPLE. OH, YOU DID. OKAY, THERE. IT'S ALRIGHT. STOP AHEAD. SO WE MAY NOT HAVE ONE PERSON TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT THAT WAS ENTIRELY TOO DISTRACTING, SO I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYBODY. UM, SO, SO THE BASIC PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST OF THE RMM FOUR IS TO ALLOW FOR THE INTERIOR LOTS TO HAVE A, A SMALLER 10 FOOT REAR SETBACK. UM, LIKE I SAID, THE EXTERIOR LOTS [02:35:01] WILL MAINTAIN THAT 20 FOOT, WHICH IS REQUIRED NOW AND REQUIRED OF THE ADJACENT TRACKS. THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS THAT LENNAR HAS REALLY SEEN THAT, UM, THERE'S BEEN A GREATER DEMAND FOR SINGLE STORY HOMES, BUT AT SOME COMPARABLE SIZE TO THE TWO STORY HOMES. SO THIS ALLOWS PEOPLE TO BUILD JUST A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THEIR LOG. UM, SLIDE FIVE, PLEASE. UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS SLIDE, THIS JUST SHOWS THE OVERLAYS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO THE SITE AND ALSO WANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, J B S A DOES NOT OBJECT TO THE REQUEST. UM, SLIDE SIX. UM, ALSO QUICKLY, THE WEST SECTOR PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES THIS PROPERTY, HAS A FUTURE LAND USE OF GENERAL URBAN TIER. UH, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT 4,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THIS DESIGNATION, WHICH CALLS FOR DENSER RESIDENTIAL AT THIS LOCATION. AND WE THINK THAT THE LENNAR PROJECT IS A GOOD BUFFER, UH, AND IT PROVIDES AN APPROPRIATE TRANSITION FROM THE SLIGHTLY LARGER SINGLE FAMILY LOT TO THE SOUTH OF THE TRACKS. AND THEN, UH, THE HIGHWAY, WHICH PROVIDES IT TO THE NORTH. SLIDE SEVEN. UM, I WANTED TO QUICKLY ADDRESS DRAINAGE, UM, IN WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, AND I THINK WE'LL HEAR IN SOME OF THE PUBLIC RESPONSES THAT WERE RECEIVED, UH, THAT THERE'S BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT STORM WATER RUNOFF. UM, AND I HAD SOMEONE FROM KATE DAWSON ON THE LINE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT I CAN DO IT, SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE IT A SHOT. UM, FIRST ALL OF, YOU KNOW, U D C PROHIBITS NEW DEVELOPMENT FROM CREATING AN ADVERSE IMPACT DOWNSTREAM, SO WE CANNOT MAKE WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT CONDITIONS WORSE IN TERMS OF STORMWATER. UM, BUT SECOND, THESE REZONING TRACKS, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THIS EXHIBIT, UM, THEY'RE ALL DOWNHILL FROM THE EXISTING ADJACENT HOMES. SO DRAINAGE FROM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ACTUALLY FLOWS ONTO THE TRACKS BEING REZONED. SO ON THIS EXHIBIT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE, BUT THE RED ARROWS SHOW THE DIRECTION OF EXISTING DRAINAGE COMING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEN WHERE DRAINAGE FROM THE NEW PROJECT WILL BE TRAVELING. SO IN PARTICULAR, THERE HAVE BEEN SIGNIFICANT, UH, FLOODING ISSUES SOUTH AND EAST OF TRACK THREE. SO THE CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING FOR YEARS AND YEARS NOW ON A PLAN TO IMPROVE THIS SITUATION. UH, AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, THEY'VE ALSO BEEN WORKING WITH BIOMED. UM, AND NOW LENNAR IS GETTING INVOLVED ON HOW TO SOLVE THESE DOWNSTREAM ISSUES BECAUSE TRACK THREE SEEMS TO BE A KEY COMPONENT TO THE CITY'S SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM. SO IN BASIC SUMMARY, WHAT THE CITY IS PROPOSING IS PLANNING TO EXCAVATE AT THE PARK AND THEY'LL CHANNELIZE THE DRAINAGE, MAKE DEEPER CHANNELS SO THAT THE DRAINAGE ALL TRAVELS THERE AND THEN GOES SOUTH THROUGH AN EXISTING DRAINAGE, UM, IMPROVEMENT EASEMENT TYPE AREA. SO THEN THEY TAKE THE EXCAVATION AND BUILD UP TRACK THREE TO RAISE THAT ELEVATION SLIGHTLY, AND THEN ALSO CON CONSTRUCT DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE BIOMED PROPERTY WITHIN THAT TRACK THREE TO TAKE THAT DRAINAGE FLOWING FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AND TO TRAVEL TO THESE NEW IMPROVEMENTS AND GO DOWN THE CHANNEL. SO, UM, THE CITY HAD A PLAN THAT THEY WERE READY TO DO, BUT THEN, UM, ATLAS 14, WHICH IS NEW RAINFALL NUMBERS CAME OUT. SO THE CITY IS NOW IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING AND FURTHER STUDYING BASED ON ATLAS 14 TO MAKE SURE ALL THE NEW IMPROVEMENTS ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATE RAINFALL. SO, UM, IN SOME LENNAR WILL NOT BE MAKING ANY IMPROVEMENTS TILL TRACK THREE UNTIL THE CITY PROCEEDS WITH THEIR PROJECT. THE DRAINAGE SITUATION, UM, IS CRITICAL AND, AND THIS SITE, YOU KNOW, CAN'T BE DEVELOPED WITHOUT IMPROVEMENTS AND WE KNOW THAT, BUT HOPEFULLY BETWEEN JOINT EFFORTS BETWEEN LENNAR AND THE CITY, UM, THE DOWNSTREAM FLOODING SHOULD BE IMPROVED. NOW WE CAN ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT IF THERE ARE ANY, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THE, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY'S PROJECT WILL, WILL MAKE CONDITIONS BETTER. SO, UM, WITH THAT, UH, MATT, HOPEFULLY YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE. I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE, UH, MATT MAJORS, WHO'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OPERATIONS WITH TEXAS BIOMED. YES, GOOD AFTERNOON. CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN. ASHLEY, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YOU CAN HEAR ME? OKAY, GREAT. UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THIS AFTERNOON. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE ZONING COMMISSION FOR, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE OUR, OUR REQUEST. UH, TEXAS BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE HAS, UH, BEEN AT OUR CURRENT LOCATION FOR ABOUT 75 YEARS. UH, WE ARE FO AN INSTITUTION, A NON-PROFIT BIOMEDICAL, UH, BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTION WITH A FOCUS ON FINDING CURES AND THERAPIES FOR SOME OF THE MOST CHALLENGING INFECTIOUS DISEASES IN THE WORLD. UM, NOTABLY COVID 19 AND IN FACT, UM, TODAY'S SAN ANTONIO BUSINESS JOURNAL ARTICLE, UM, IS A GREAT TESTAMENT TO THAT. UM, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, WITH DIAGNOSED WITH, UH, COVID [02:40:01] 19 OVER THE WEEKEND. AND, UM, WE'RE PLEASED TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE THERAPIES THAT WAS OFFERED TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, UM, JUST CONCLUDED PRECLINICAL TRIALS AT TEXAS BIOMEDICAL RESEARCH INSTITUTE WITH OUR NON PRIMATES. AND THERE'S MUCH, MUCH MORE OF THAT TYPE OF GREAT NEWS COMING OUT OF OUR INSTITUTION. UM, WE ARE AN ORGANIZATION OF ABOUT 400 EMPLOYEES THAT'S ON THE VERGE OF HOPEFULLY DOUBLING IN SIZE OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS. UH, WE'VE OWNED, WE OWN THE PROPERTY ABOUT 200 ACRES. IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, AND THAT'S OUR PRIMARY CAMPUS. THEN, UH, HIGHWAY 1 51 CAME THROUGH THE PARCELS OF PROPERTY. THAT'S POINT, UH, OF TODAY'S, THE POINT OF TODAY'S, UH, REQUEST, ZONING REQUEST WAS ACTUALLY CUT OFF FROM THE REST OF OUR, UM, OF OUR CAMPUS. AND OVER THE, THE YEARS WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF OFFERS, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE SIZE OF THE TRACK AND, UH, THE LOCATION OF THE TRACK, ESPECIALLY WITH ITS INDUSTRIAL ZONING, UM, HAS BEEN, UM, A, A SIGNIFICANT INTEREST TO POTENTIAL BUYERS. AND, UM, FOR MANY YEARS WE'VE HESITATED. UM, AND WE WANTED TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT BECAUSE OF OUR INTEREST IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW LONG WE'VE BEEN WHERE WE ARE AND HOW WE PLAN TO STAY THERE FOREVER AND, UM, AND AS MUCH SUPPORT THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS GIVEN US OVER THE YEARS, UM, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO US THAT WE PARTNER WITH SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THE LAND AND MAKE IT BETTER THAN IT'S NOW. AND, UM, GIVEN OUR INTEREST AND OUR PLAN OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS TO DOUBLE IN SIZE AND ADD SEVERAL HUNDRED NEW JOBS AND, UM, SEVERAL HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS IN NEW FACILITIES, UH, OUR DESIRE IS TO LIQUIDATE SOME ASSETS THAT WE, UH, DON'T SEE A FUTURE NEED FOR AND ALLOW THEM TO BE REPURPOSED FOR BETTER. AND WE BELIEVE THE PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY WITH WEBINAR THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO ADD HIGH QUALITY, BRAND NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UM, ON THE 76 ACRES IS THE IDEAL OPPORTUNITY AND THE THE IDEAL PARTNER. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MATT. APPRECIATE IT. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE. THANK YOU. SO, ALRIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, STEPH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? YES MA'AM. WE'LL PLAY THE VOICEMAIL. HI, MY NAME IS GAY. I'M CALLING FROM 6 4 6 PALM GROVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO SEVEN. PHONE NUMBER (210) 675-0979. CALLING REGARDING DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT. UM, CASE NUMBER B 2020 DASH 1 0 7 0 1 9 7. LAST THREE DIGITS 1 9 7. UH, CALLING TO OPPOSE THIS ZONING REQUEST CHANGE. WE HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC THERE AS IS IN THAT AREA AT HOLD ON. UM, WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY PLAYING. WE'RE GONNA, UH, RESTART IT. SORRY, WE'RE STILL, UH, IT'S STILL BUFFERING OVER HERE, SO WE'RE JUST HAVING SOME CON UH, INTERNET CONNECTION ISSUES. HOPEFULLY IT'LL RESOLVE SHORTLY. HI, MY NAME IS GAY VEST. I'M . WE HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC THERE AS IS IN THAT AREA AT 1 51 AND HAVING PROPERTIES ALL BEHIND THERE. 200 TO 400 I BELIEVE WAS WHAT WAS MENTIONED TO ME. UM, AND NOT HAVING ANOTHER ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN THE AREA. IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY UNWISE IDEA. I AM VOTING AGAINST OR PROPOSING THAT WE VOTE AGAINST ALLOWING THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THAT'S ALL THE COMMENTS WE HAVE, MA'AM. THANK YOU. [02:45:01] UM, MS. FAIRMONT, WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO RESPOND? UH, SURE. BRIEFLY, YES. UM, WITH REGARD TO THE TRAFFIC, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO DO FULL TRAFFIC STUDIES. UH, AT THIS TIME, PAWSON IS PROPOSING THAT THERE'LL PROBABLY BE SOME, YOU KNOW, DEDICATED RIGHT TURNS INTO THE PROJECT SITE TO, UM, ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, SAFE TURN INS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT. BUT BEING ACCESS ON A HIGHWAY AND WITH ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AT 1 51 AND FOUR 10, YOU KNOW, WE, WE THINK THAT IT IS A PRETTY GOOD TRAFFIC SITUATION FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO THE SCHOOLS, I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH NORTHSIDE, I S D, UM, TO KEEP THEM APPRISED OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE SCHEDULE SO THAT THEY CAN PROPERLY ACCOMMODATE FOR NEW KIDS. BUT AT THIS TIME, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY HAVE EXISTING SCHOOLS AROUND THERE THAT, THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT THE NEW CHILDREN WILL BE ABLE TO ATTEND. UM, SO THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER. WE THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK THE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THE MEADOW VILLAGE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR PARTICIPATING IN THIS CONVERSATION. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS, TO ME, THIS WAS A REALLY INTERESTING DEVELOPMENT AND, UM, IF I RETIRED, I USED TO DRIVE THIS SECTION OF 1 51 EVERY DAY AND I ALWAYS WONDERED, WOW, WHAT IS IT GONNA DO WITH THIS, UH, EMPTY LOT? AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HEARD ABOUT, WHEN I READ ABOUT THE, THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, HAVING AFFORDABLE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ALONG 1 51 WOULD REALLY BE A BENEFIT TO OUR CITY, TO OUR DISTRICT. BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THE PORT OF SAN ANTONIO AND CYBER TEXAS, WERE GETTING LOTS OF JOBS, BUT WE'RE FORCING THOSE PEOPLE TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE AREA, FORCING THEM TO COMMUTE A LONG WAY. BUT WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, I BELIEVE, UH, WE CAN KEEP THEM INSIDE, UH, FOUR 10 INSIDE 1604 AND NOT WASTE SO MUCH TIME IN COMMUTING. SO AGAIN, I'M PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT. UM, BUT MY SECOND THOUGHT WAS, WOW, WHAT IS ALL, HOW ARE WE GONNA DEAL WITH THE DRAINAGE? AND I HAD A GOOD, GOOD COUPLE CONVERSATIONS WITH, UH, ASHLEY, AND SHE EXPLAINED TO ME HOW, UH, THE, THE PLANNERS AND THE ENGINEERS WERE GOING TO MITIGATE THE, THE FLOODING OR THE ANTICIPATED FLOODING. SO, UM, BEFORE I MAKE MY MOTION, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER, WE THANK YOU MA'AM. CHAIR, AT THIS TIME I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION. I SECOND, SECOND. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER, WE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. ANY, UM, COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. UM, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAMATH? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER AYE. AND CHAIRMAN MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. EIGHT TO ZERO. OKAY. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE IS WELCOME BACK TO JOIN US AGAIN. [15. 20-5744 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700199 CD (Council District 2)] ALL RIGHT, IF WE'RE READY FOR ITEM 15, WE ARE. ITEM 15 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE TO R FIVE CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A TRANSITIONAL HOME WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME. GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 1500 BLOCK OF SLINGER ROAD, THERE WERE 15 NOTICES MAILED, NONE RECEIVED IN FAVOR, NONE IN OPPOSITION. THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE DEL CREST AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT AND THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE DEL CREST AREA NEIGHBORHOOD IS OPPOSED. THEY JUST RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR AFFILIATION WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING [02:50:01] DEPARTMENT 12 OUT OF, UH, THERE WERE 12 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN SUPPORT THAT WERE OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. THE CURRENT R FIVE IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA. THE ZONING RE REQUEST MAINTAINS THE BASE ZONING. THE CONDITIONAL USE ALLOWS CONSIDERATION OF A TRANSITIONAL HOME FOR WOMEN AND BABIES AS PART OF AN EXISTING CHURCH STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? WE'RE CONNECTING THEM IN. IT SHOULD BE ON SHORTLY. CAROLINE, ARE YOU THERE? YES. CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, GO AHEAD. HI. OKAY. UH, I DO HAVE A, A BRIEF PRESENTATION IF ZACH COULD PUT THAT UP. IT'S CAROLINE MCDONALD WITH BRANDON ORTIZ, ONE 12 EAST PECAN SUITE 1360 HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. CROSSPOINT, I DO WANNA NOTE THAT WE DO HAVE THE C E O OF CROSSPOINT ON ON THE TELEPHONE. MR. OR DR. KEVIN DOWNEY, I WILL BE BRIEFLY GOING OVER THE ZONING REQUEST AND TURN IT OVER TO HIM FOR THE USE. IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO TO SLIDE TWO AS STAFF MENTIONED. AND YOU CAN SEE HERE WE ARE AT FOUR 10 AND RIGSBY, THE NORTHWEST CORNER. WE ARE AT 1600 SIMLAN ROAD. OUR CURRENT ZONING IS R FIVE. OUR LAND USE IS HIGH DENSITY MIXED USE IN THE EASTERN TRIANGLE. PLAN, THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU TODAY IS FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A TRANSITIONAL HOME. UH, NO, AGAIN, NO PLAN AMENDMENT WAS NECESSARY. YOU COULD PLEASE GO TO SLIDE THREE. THIS JUST SHOWS, UH, A LARGER VIEW OF THE ZONING IN THE AREA. IT IS, UH, PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY, ALTHOUGH WE DO HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL USES, UH, IN THAT SINGLE FAMILY ALONG FOUR 10, UM, ADJACENT TO THE HIGHWAY, WE HAVE THE CHURCH, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF US WHO, WHO ARE IN GREAT SUPPORT OF THE USE THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TODAY. UM, THE DEL CREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS WITHIN 200 FEET. UM, IT'S A VERY UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I'M SURE ALL OF YOU'RE AWARE. UM, THERE ARE, WE DO HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT OF DEL CREST AND THEN DAN MARTINEZ, WHO IS ON THE, UH, EASTERN TRIANGLE PLANNING GROUP. AND HE THE INVOLVED WITH THE DEL CREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, HE MIGHT, HE MIGHT'VE BROKEN OFF ON HIS OWN. YEAH. UM, BUT I, I THINK DR. DOWNEY CAN SPEAK MORE TO THAT LATER. IN ADDITION, WE DO HAVE, I BELIEVE 13, I THINK 14 ACTUALLY OF, OF TODAY, LETTERS OF SUPPORT, UM, FROM THE COMMUNITY. PLEASE GO TO SLIDE FOUR. HERE'S AN AERIAL SHOWING OUR PROXIMITY TO FOUR 10 WHERE THE CHURCH IS. THERE'S A COMMERCIAL, UH, USE, UH, TO OUR NORTH, AND THEN THE RESIDENTIAL WILL BE TO OUR WEST. IF YOU COULD PLEASE GO TO SLIDE FIVE. UM, AND AT THIS POINT, I AM GOING TO TURN IT IN, TURN IT OVER TO DR. DOWNEY JUST TO TALK ABOUT THE PROPOSED WOMEN'S WELLNESS CAMPUS, WHICH COINCIDENTALLY IT, IT DOES FALL INTO THE TRANSITIONAL HOME USE DEFINITION IN THE U D C. OKAY. UM, FIRST OF ALL, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, COMMISSIONERS. UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR PERSEVERANCE AFTER WATCHING THIS ZONING, UH, THE CASES YOU'VE HAD TODAY. THE, UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE WOMEN'S WELLNESS CAMPUS IS AN EXPANSION OF A PROGRAM THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THAT'S CALLED . THE THIS PROGRAM SERVES WOMEN WHO ARE PREGNANT AND OR PARENTING, UH, WHO HAVE OPIOID USE DISORDERS AND THEIR BABIES. WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING THIS PROGRAM IN PARTNERSHIP WITH UT HEALTH SCHOOL OF NURSING SINCE DECEMBER, 2018 IN MONTE VISTA AT THE CORNER OF CRAIG AND MAINE. THE PROGRAM FACILITY HOLDS APPROXIMATELY 20 MAMAS AND BABIES. WE'VE RUN INTO A COUPLE OF ISSUES. ONE IS WE DO NOT HAVE [02:55:01] ENOUGH ROOM. UM, AND WE'VE HAD TO TURN AWAY A NUMBER OF MOTHERS WHOSE ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO REUNITE WITH THEIR BABIES IS TO BE AT THE CASSIA PROGRAM WHERE THEY CONTINUE IN RECOVERY AND WE HELP THEM WITH A VARIETY OF, OF LIFE SKILLS. THE OTHER ISSUE IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE FUNDING AT EA, WE CAN ONLY ACCEPT OPIOID USE, WOMEN WITH OPIOID USE DISORDERS. WE HAVE BEEN, UH, APPROACHED BY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THIS DOES NOT ALLOW US TO SERVE MAMAS AND BABIES WHERE OTHER ADDICTIONS ARE IN PLAY, SUCH AS COCAINE OR METHAMPHETAMINES. SO FOR THE LAST 18 MONTHS, WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR PROPERTY THAT WE COULD EXPAND THIS MODEL. AND, UM, WE FOUND IT IN THE PROPERTY THAT IS SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE. WE, UH, WE MET WITH THE PE THE FOLKS FROM EMMANUEL, A M E, WHOSE MISSION, UM, THEIR CHURCH MISSION COINCIDES WITH THAT OF, OF CROSSPOINT. SO THE SCHOOL OF NURSING HAS HELPED US, UH, IN THE DESIGN. UH, THEY ALSO HELP WITH HANDS-ON NURSING AND TRAINING OUR STAFF ON HOW TO WORK WITH MAMAS AND BABIES. AND THEY HAVE ALSO INTRODUCED US TO FUNDING STREAMS WE DID NOT PREVIOUSLY HAVE ACCESS TO. SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO OPEN UP A FACILITY THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE 40 MAMAS AND BABIES. WE WOULD BE BUILDING A 7,500 SQUARE FOOT NURSERY AND CLINIC SPECIFICALLY FOR THE USE OF THE MAMAS AND BABIES, UH, AN ADMIN BUILDING. AND THEN EVENTUALLY THAT, WHAT I'VE JUST TOLD YOU IS ALL THIS PHASE ONE STUFF THAT WE'RE WORKING ON WOULD BE TO EXPAND THE MODEL TO SERVE OTHER WOMEN WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED, UH, TRAUMA, HOMELESSNESS, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES, OR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM INVOLVEMENT. WE ARE CURRENTLY SERVING ALL OF THESE CLIENTS AND OUR VARIOUS FACILITIES. UM, THE JUSTICE SYSTEM INVOLVEMENT ONES, BY THE WAY, UH, ARE MOST FREQUENTLY REFERRALS FROM BEXAR COUNTY SPECIALTY COURTS TO INCLUDE THE ESPERANZA COURT, THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING COURT. UM, SO OUR GOAL IS TO HAVE A SELF-CONTAINED CAMPUS THAT TAKES CARE OF THE NEEDS OF THESE WOMEN AND BABIES. UH, THOSE WHO HAVE THEM IN THIS ONE SINGLE PLACE. UM, I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO BRING IN AS MANY PEOPLE IN THE PROJECT IS ON IT'S HUMANLY POSSIBLE. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOLKS WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO, WE DO HAVE A VISIONING COMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES, UM, STATE REP AND COMMISSIONER TOMMY CALVERT, UH, SISTER GABRIELA LOHAN, TJ MAYS, ROBERT NOLAN FROM UT HEALTH, DR. CLEVELAND FROM UT HEALTH. WE HAVE VERNA ES THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE DEL CREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE REVEREND GARMIN RIGHT THERE FROM EMANUEL AME CHURCH. AND I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES THAT FOLKS MIGHT HAVE. SURE. AND THANK YOU DR. DOWNEY. UM, SO DR. DOWNEY, AT THE VERY BEGINNING BEGAN REACHING OUT TO THE DISTRICT TWO OFFICE TO DEL CREST, EASTERN TRIANGLE, UM, AND THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA. UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DEL CREST AND, UM, AS WE PURSUED SUBMITTING THIS ZONING CASE, YOU SEE THE SITE PLAN, UH, IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. THE BUILDINGS IN RED ARE PHASE ONE, UM, WHICH INCLUDE THE AMENITIES THAT DR. DOWNEY WENT OVER. UH, THE BUILDINGS IN BLUE ARE A POTENTIAL PHASE TWO, UM, DOWN THE ROAD. SO WITH THAT, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VERY, IT'S A SPECIFIC, UH, USE YOU DON'T SEE ALL THE TIME, AND IT'S, IT'S VERY UNIQUE. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I UNDERSTAND THAT TODAY, UH, THERE WERE SOME VOICEMAILS, UH, WITH OPPOSITION. SO IT'LL BE THE FIRST TIME WE'RE HEARING THOSE AS WELL. SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS AND CALL THOSE PEOPLE BACK. BUT, UM, WITH THAT, I, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL OF, OF THIS ZONING CHANGE TODAY. THANK YOU. UM, STAFF, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE. YES, MA'AM. WE ARE GONNA PLAY A SERIES OF VOICEMAILS AS LONG AS THEY COOPERATE. [03:00:02] UH, MY NAME IS ANITA L FRANKLIN. I LIVE AT 48 11 DALE CREST NEAR IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. MY NUMBER IS 2 1 0 2 3 2 7 4 8 4. UH, THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO THE REZONING CASE. UH, THIS IS THE CASE NUMBER Z AS IN, UH, ZEBRA 2 2 1 7 0 0 1 9 9. AND I BELIEVE IT ENDS IN THE C B R AND ASH. UH, I'M CALLING TO, UH, NOTIFY THE REZONING COMMISSION. I AM AGAINST THE REZONING, UH, FROM A RESIDENTIAL R S TWO R A M 45 CONCERNING A TRANSITION CENTER THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. AGAIN, I'M CALLING TO CAST IN MY VOTE. I AM TOTALLY AGAINST THE BUILDING OF A TRANSITION CENTER IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF DEL CREST. THANK YOU. BYE-BYE. THIS IS BETTY LAMPKIN AGAIN. MY ZONING NUMBER IS Z 20 21 0 7 0 0 1 9 9 C NINE CD. SORRY. AND I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE DEL CREST AREA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AGAIN, WE DID NOT VOTE ON THIS FACILITY BEING BUILT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DO, I DO NOT APPROVE OF IT. THANK YOU. WE JUST ADMIT TO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. HELLO, MY NAME IS DOROTHY ROBERTS. I LIVE OUT HERE, UH, IN THIS, IN DEL CREST AREA WHERE THEY'RE BUILDING THIS, UH, UH, SHELTER FOR THIS, UH, UH, PREGNANT WOMEN'S. I DISAPPROVE OF IT AND, AND I DON'T CARE FOR IT, IT COMING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I WISH THAT THEY WOULDN'T DO IT. AND THE ZONING NUMBER, UH, IS 2020 DASH 1 0 7 0 0 1 1 9 9 CD. THAT'S THE CASE NUMBER. MY NAME IS DOROTHY ROBERTS. MY ADDRESS IS 5 0 0 7 BAY HEAD AND I'M WALKING DISTANCE FROM THIS SHELTER AND I DON'T APPROVE OF IT BEING PUT THERE. BEEN LIVING OUT HERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE NOTHING BUT TROUBLE. AGAIN, MY NAME IS MRS. JOANNE JOHNSON. I LIVE AT 49 15 STONELEY DRIVE, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS SEVEN EIGHT TWO TWO ZERO. MY PHONE NUMBER IS TWO TEN SIX FOUR EIGHT SEVEN SIX THREE SIX. I AM CALLING TO GIVE MY DISAPPROVAL TO THE PROJECTS OF CHANGING THAT ZONING OVER THERE BY THE CHURCH. AND THE NUMBER THEY GIVE IS 2 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 1. AND THEN THERE'S A NINE NINE CG. I UNDERSTAND THE HEARING IS TOMORROW. AND I DO DISAPPROVE. MY NAME IS LINDA GRANT, 43 38 STREET, 2 1 0 4 5 5 7 9 7 0. I'M CALLING TO DISAPPROVE OF THE RIO ZONING FOR CASE NUMBER Z 2 0 2 0 1 0 7 0 0 1 9 9 CD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HOPE YOU TAKE THIS IN CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS MENTOR SHEFIELD. I'M CALLING IN REFERENCE TO CASE NUMBER 1 9 9 CD OPPOSING THE CELL OF THE OPPOSING THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO EMMANUEL, A M E CHURCH. MY NAME IS MINTO SHEFIELD, CALLING TO OPPOSE THE REZONING OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO 1600 LINGA ROAD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THOSE ARE ALL OF THE VOICEMAILS WE HAVE. AND I CAN CONFIRM WITH YOU THAT WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER AFTER THE MEETING STARTED ABOUT TWO 30 FROM THE OFFICE OF TOMMY CALVERT IN SUPPORT OF THE REZONING REQUEST AS WELL. THANK YOU. UM, MS. MCDONALD, [03:05:01] WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO, UH, RESPOND? SURE, YES, PLEASE. UM, STAFF, WE ALSO HAD ABOUT 13 OTHER LETTERS IN SUPPORT. UH, I I UNDERSTAND THEY WERE LENGTHY AND, UM, YOU MAY NOT WANNA READ 'EM ALL, BUT I MEAN, COULD YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THEM OR PUT THEM ON THE SCREEN? YES, MA'AM. WE DID IN THE BEGINNING. UM, THEY'RE NOT OKAY. THEY'RE NOT READ DURING THE ACTUAL, UH, HEARING. THEY ARE, UH, PUT INTO THE MEETING MINUTE RECORDS AND THE ZONING COMMISSION HAS RECEIVED THEM BEFOREHAND. PERFECT. OKAY. I DIDN'T HEAR THE FIRST PART OF THE PRESENTATION, SO THANK YOU. UM, YES. SO, UH, THANK YOU. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE WERE HEARING SOME OF THAT OPPOSITION. AS PREVIOUSLY STATED, WE HAD REACHED OUT VERY EARLY ON, SPECIFICALLY DR. DOWNEY TO, UH, DAN MARTINEZ AND MS. ELDRIDGE, AS WELL AS MS. HEMA, WHO IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE DEL CREST NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. SPECIFICALLY FOUR ATTEMPTS WERE MADE TO, UH, CONTACT MS. HEMA. AND EVEN YESTERDAY, MS. ELDRIDGE WENT OVER TO HER HOME TO SPEAK WITH HER. UM, SO IT'S NOT WITHOUT LACK OF, OF TRYING TO REACH OUT TO HER AND, AND GET IN FRONT OF HER. DR. DOWNEY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO THAT? YES, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD. UM, OKAY. SO I HAD REACHED OUT TO A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHO WAS THE MOST CRITICAL NEIGHBORS AND FOLKS AROUND THERE WHO MIGHT HAVE SOME INPUT FOR US. AND, UM, COMMISSIONER CALVERT HAD SUGGESTED THAT VERNA ESKRIDGE AND DAN MARTINEZ WERE TWO PEOPLE WHO WERE VERY, VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, WHEN I CALLED VERNA, SHE SAID THAT SHE'D BEEN LIVING THERE FOR, I THINK SHE SAID 60 PLUS YEARS, AND EXPLAINED THAT DAN MARTINEZ HAD STARTED ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT INCLUDED THE SAME AREA. BUT I HAD ASKED THEM BOTH. I SAID, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A VISIONING COMMITTEE AND WE DO WANT NEIGHBORS INVOLVED. AND DAN MARTINEZ CALLED ME AND HE ASKED IF WE WOULD PLEASE PUT VERNA ESKRIDGE ON THE VISIONING COMMITTEE. SO SHE HAS BEEN A VERY ACTIVE MEMBER. UM, SHE IS THE ONE WHO GAVE ME, UM, MS. HAMMOND'S PHONE NUMBER, WHICH I KEPT TRYING TO CALL AND I COULDN'T REACH HER. AND I JUST TOLD MS RIDGE THAT IF THERE WAS A MEETING I COULD SHOW UP AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETING AND PRESENT THIS TO THEM. AND SHE SAID THAT THEY HADN'T MET IN MANY MONTHS. SO I WROTE A, AN ARTICLE, A TWO PARAGRAPH ARTICLE ABOUT THE WOMEN'S WELLNESS CAMPUS AND GAVE IT TO BOTH MS. ESKRIDGE AND TO DAN MARTINEZ. MR. MARTINEZ PUT IT IN HIS NEWSLETTER AND DISTRIBUTED IT TO 900 NEIGHBORS. THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD ME. AND MS. ESKRIDGE SAID THAT THEY NEVER PUBLISHED THE LETTER BECAUSE BESIDES NOT HAVING MEETINGS, THEY WERE NO LONGER PUTTING OUT THE, UM, NEWSLETTER, ALTHOUGH I THINK THEY DID ONE YESTERDAY AND IT HAD NOTHING IN IT ABOUT THE CAMPUS. SO I JUST WANT THE COMMISSIONERS TO KNOW THAT I HAVE SPENT THE LAST FEW MONTHS, UM, REACHING OUT TO EVERYBODY. I COULD THINK OF THAT A LITTLE CHURCH ACROSS THE STREET, TRUE VINE, PASTOR EMMA ALEXANDER. UM, AND SHE SAID SHE WOULD BE HAPPY TO TALK TO ANY NEIGHBORS WHO HAD PROBLEMS WITH IT BECAUSE SHE WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE WORK OF CROSSPOINT AND THOUGHT IT WOULD BE OF GREAT BENEFIT NOT ONLY TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, I THINK THE ISSUE THAT MAY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY MS. HAMMA WAS THAT THIS COULD RESULT IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR SOMETHING IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I, I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THE SAME THING HAPPENED WHEN WE OPENED UP THE SUMMIT, WHICH WAS THE FORMER CONVENT OF THE SISTERS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND THE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE MOST AFRAID THAT BY OPENING THAT TRANSITIONAL FACILITY, WE WOULD INCREASE CRIME RATE AROUND THE AREA. SUBSEQUENTLY CAME AROUND, ONE OF WHOM WAS, UH, THEN D TWO COUNCILWOMAN TAYLOR, WHO OPPOSED US, UM, THEN D TWO ZONING COMMISSIONER BARBARA HAWKINS, WHO WAS OPPOSING US SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, UH, THEN MAYOR TAYLOR CAME OVER. SHE SAID THAT SHE MADE A MISTAKE. SHE SAID IT WAS PROFESSIONALLY RUN, IT WAS OF GREAT BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ALL THE COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS THAT WE DO AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND MS. HAWKINS CAME TO ME AND ASKED IF I WOULD SIGN A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING SO THAT SHE MIGHT ALSO SERVE OUR CLIENTS. SO I'M JUST SHARING [03:10:01] THAT BECAUSE NO MATTER HOW MUCH I TALK ABOUT IT, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND HOW GOOD A TRANSITIONAL HOME IS FOR A NEIGHBORHOOD UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY SEE IT IN ACTION. THANK YOU. SO WITH THAT, I KNOW I'M RUNNING CLOSE ON TIME, BUT, UH, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. WE, I WROTE DOWN THE NUMBERS OF THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT THEM SO THAT WE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THEM BEFORE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS. BUT AGAIN, UH, HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL TODAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES? UH, YES, I'VE BEEN PRETTY INVOLVED WITH THIS. AND I WAS WONDERING, UM, BECAUSE, UH, MS. HEMA SAYS THAT SHE DIDN'T GET THE PHONE CALLS, UM, THAT SHE WASN'T REGISTERED AT AS, UH, THE OFFICIAL PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO, FOR A CONTINUANCE, UH, FOR EITHER TWO WEEKS OR FOUR SO THAT YOU COULD MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AND CLEAR THIS MATTER UP? BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, AS OF YESTERDAY THERE WERE, THERE WAS NO, NO OPPOSITION, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT ALL THIS OPPOSITION. SO WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO POSTPONE AND, AND MEET WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION? UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY MEET. I DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY MEET, BUT SHE SAYS SHE NEVER GOT ANYTHING. I I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE, THE MIX UP CAME FROM, BUT WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO POSTPONE IT? HI, COMMISSIONER, UH, CAROLINE MCDONALD HERE. UH, OF COURSE, WE'RE, WE ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO REACH OUT AGAIN AND GET, TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF HER AS WELL AS THE OTHER, UM, UM, INTERESTED RESIDENTS. OH, OKAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TOO, IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW HOW I COULD HAVE MADE ANY MORE ATTEMPTS TO ACTUALLY REACH OUT. AND WHEN I ASKED MS. ESKRIDGE, AGAIN, WHO WAS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, SHE SAID, KEVIN, THERE'S, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MEET WITH THE GROUP BECAUSE THEY DON'T MEET ANYMORE. SO AGAIN, AM I WILLING TO DO THIS? OF COURSE, I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT WHAT IT IS WE'RE DOING, UM, THE MORE THAT THEY WILL EMBRACE THIS EFFORT. SO, UM, AGAIN, IF THAT'S WHAT IT TAKES TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN I, THEN I WOULD CERTAINLY, AND I WOULD WANT TO MEET WITH THEM REGARDLESS. YEAH. JUST FOR CONSIDERATION, BECAUSE YES, MY UNDERSTANDING, AND I HAD PLENTY CONFIRMATION, THE CHURCH WANTS TO DO THIS. MANY OTHER PEOPLE ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH IT, JUST IN CONSIDERATION FOR THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IN THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT 'EM TO SAY, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. UM, I, I'M NOT SURE WHY THEY, WHY THEY HADN'T MET. UM, I'M GETTING A WHOLE LOT OF MIXED SIGNALS, BUT I WOULD SURE APPRECIATE THAT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER THAT. NO, CERTAINLY. OKAY. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? I OKAY. UM, ALL RIGHT. UH, COMMISSIONER JONES. YES. I MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE, UH, UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING, UH, ON THIS CA ON THIS CASE. 1 99 SECOND. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TO THE NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING BY COMMISSIONER JONES, SECOND BY, UM, COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY, UH, COMMENT? ANY COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? UM, THANK YOU. I, YOU KNOW, AND I, I THINK THIS IS WHAT THE COMMISSIONER MEANS. UM, JUST, UH, TO MAKE SURE THEY TRY, I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT, I MEAN, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE DONE EVERYTHING THEY CAN AND SOMETIMES THERE ARE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATIONS THAT JUST, JUST DON'T MEET AND, UM, JUST DON'T RESPOND. SO I THINK THAT IF THEY COME BACK WITH THAT SAME ANSWER NEXT TIME, UM, I THINK WE'RE GONNA JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT MAYBE THE ASSOCIATION'S NOT MEETING. THE OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, I THINK IN THE PAST THAT, UH, SOMETIMES OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE HAD TO BE ABSENT OR LEAVE EARLY ON ELECTION DAY. SO THIS IS THE THIRD SORT OF BIG CASE WE'RE POSTPONING TO ELECTION DAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. VERY IMPORTANT NOTE TO MAKE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER, UH, COMMENTS? OKAY, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. [03:15:02] COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER, WE AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. NINE TO ALL RIGHT. OUR FINAL ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER 17. [17. 20-5745 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700201 (Council District 2)] ITEM NUMBER 17 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RM SIX H A H O D TO RMM FOUR H A H O D, LOCATED AT 7 32 NORTH PINE STREET. THERE WERE 26 NOTICES MAILED. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN FAVOR, TWO RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION. ONE WAS RECEIVED IN OPPOSITION OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION AREA. A PETITION WITH NINE SIGNATURES OF INDIVIDUALS OPPOSED WAS RECEIVED FROM OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT AREA. THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS OPPOSED AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM DIGNITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION STAFF HAS FOUND AN INDICATION OF LIKELY ADVERSE EFFECTS ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH. SAFETY OF WELFARE. ALLOWING FOR UP TO FOUR UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY WOULD NOT BE CONSISTENT WITH ESTABLISHED LAND USES AND DENSITIES IN THE AREA. THE PROPERTY WAS PURPOSE. PURPOSE, EXCUSE ME, PURPOSEFULLY REZONED FROM THE REQUESTED RM FOUR TO THE CURRENT RMM SIX IN 2012. STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL. MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES, THIS IS, UH, ROB WASSAM CITY. UH, WE ARE REQUESTING, UH, TWO TO THREE WEEKS OF CONTINUATION ON THIS CASE. SO WE GOING TO REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, THE STAFF. UH, OKAY. YOU SAID, DID YOU SAY A TWO WEEK CONTINUANCE? YEAH, TWO TO THREE WEEKS. OKAY. 'CAUSE WE HAVE THAT CHOICE. IT'S TWO TO FOUR WEEK, UH, TWO OR FOUR WEEKS? MM-HMM. . OKAY. FOUR WEEKS. FOUR WEEKS BETTER. YEAH. FOUR WEEKS. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, UH, STAFF, UM, WAS THERE ANY, UH, VOICEMAILS? THERE IS ONE TO PLAY. OKAY, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE. HELLO, MY NAME'S CAINE. I LIVE AT 7 2 9 NORTH PINE STREET. MY NUMBER IS 7 1 4 5 6 6 4 0 7 4. AGAIN, I LIVE AT 7 2 9 NORTH PINE STREET AND MY NUMBER'S 7 1 4 5 6 6 4 0 7 4. UM, SO I'M TRYING TO ADDRESS LIKE SOCIAL ZONING, UM, CATTY CORNER FROM MY HOME. AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THE ZONING TO ALLOW LIKE, MULTIPLE UNITS. UM, THERE IS A HOME THAT IS FACING TIME, SO IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF TIME, ALL OF TIME IS A HOME. UM, AND SO I'M, I'M JUST, MY CONCERN IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT MULTIPLE UNITS AND THE INTEGRITY, IT'S KIND OF LIKE KIND OF AN INTERESTING INTEGRITY ISSUE AS FAR AS LIKE ASKING ALL THE HOMES TO BE CONTINUOUSLY LIKE MEETING, UM, A CERTAIN LOOK AND, UM, IN OUR OWN HOMES. AND SO TO PUT SOMETHING THAT'S LIKE AN APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT IS VERY INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN, UM, THAT WAS KIND OF MY CONCERN AND JUST HAVING, UM, AND I'M ALSO LIKE, UM, INVESTOR OPPORTUNITIES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS VERY INTENSIVE TO HAVE A HOME TAKEN OFF OF THAT SPOT FOR A LOT OF POTENTIAL LIKE, LIKE FIVE SIX THERE. UM, CONCERNING FOR SURE. UM, AND IT REALLY DOESN'T WRITE LIKE A FAMILY ENVIRONMENT. I MEAN, UM, AS FAR AS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S BEEN AN INFILL OF SOME REALLY GREAT FAMILIES WHEN THEY TAKE OVER THOSE SPOTS AND IT'S JUST BEEN REALLY GOOD FOR REALLY JUST OUR COMMUNITY. IT'S BEEN ESPECIALLY [03:20:01] EVERYONE OUT WALKING AND STUFF. AND SO YOU SEE THAT, OKAY, THAT WAS TWO MINUTES. I THINK THAT WAS ALL THE VOICEMAILS THERE WERE. OKAY. AND I'M SO SORRY. UH, THE AT SIR, THE APPLICANT, I DIDN'T CATCH YOUR LAST NAME. WOULD YOU LIKE TIME TO, UH, RESPOND TO THE VOICEMAIL, SIR? OR DO YOU JUST WANT US TO MOVE ON WITH THE CONTINUANCE IF WELL, TO SEE IF WE CAN, IF WE WILL CONTINUE IT? YEAH. YEAH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE CON UH, UH, REQUESTING THE CONTINUANCE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. UM, STAND BY, JUST IN CASE WE HAVE QUESTIONS, SIR. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER JONES. UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, THREE CASES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN POSTPONED. UM, IT, I, I DIDN'T GET HIS NAME EITHER. IT, SIR, DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET, UH, IN CONTACT WITH THOSE PEOPLE IN, WITHIN THE TWO WEEK PERIOD? IT, IT, BASED ON THE CURRENT SITUATION, MAYBE FOUR WEEKS BETTER SO WE CAN REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY LIKE, YOU KNOW, ON THIS COVID SITUATION. OKAY. WELL OUR DILEMMA IS THAT WE HAVE THREE CASES DELAYED AND THAT'S ELECTION DAY, ACTUALLY IN FOUR WEEKS. UH, MAY I OFFER ALSO A SIX WEEK, WHICH IS NOVEMBER THE 17TH. OKAY. OKAY. WOULD THAT BE OKAY? THE SIX WEEKS? YES, THAT'S SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER JONES. ALL RIGHT. ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER JONES, UH, I MOVE FOR CONTINUANCE FOR, UH, THE SIX WEEK DATE. SECOND. OKAY. SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR CONTINUANCE TILL NOVEMBER 17TH FROM COMMISSIONER JONES WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE. ANY, UM, COMMENTS? ANY COMMISSIONERS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER CAYMAN? YES. COMMISSIONER HU. UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AYE. I'M SORRY. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 11 TO, I MEAN 10 TO ZERO. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM UH, SEPTEMBER THE 15TH. ACTUALLY, UH, MA'AM WE'RE GONNA PULL THE MINUTES BECAUSE WE'RE MISSING, UH, NAMES OF, OF THOSE THAT HAD SUBMITTED WRITTEN, UH, SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION. WE'RE EDITING THOSE MINUTES AND WE'LL BRING THEM BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING. ALRIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? UH, NO MA'AM, NOT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. MADAM SIR? YES. WAS THERE ANOTHER ITEM ON OUR AGENDA, UH, REGARDING YES. THANK YOU. YES, JANUARY 15. WE DO HAVE ONE MORE ITEM. OH, I'M SO GLAD YOU DIDN'T MISS THAT, SIR. . OKAY. UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 19, PLEASE. YES. SO, UH, BASICALLY WHAT WE DO IS, UH, AROUND EVERY OCTOBER, UH, WE BRING THIS ITEM FORWARD BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, THE U D C STATES THAT ZONING COMMISSION MEETS ON THE FIRST AND THIRD TUESDAYS OF THE MONTH. UH, BUT SINCE THE, THE BUDGET WAS ADOPTED WITH THE, UH, HOLIDAY SCHEDULE, THE CITY WILL BE CLOSED, UM, BE THE LAST WEEK OF DECEMBER, AND THAT WOULD BE NORMALLY THE WEEK THAT WE WOULD PREPARE AS IN RECENT YEARS, AS IN RECENT YEARS. UM, WHAT WE DO IS WE HAVE, UH, CANCELED THAT FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY SINCE NO STAFF IS HERE TO PREPARE THAT AGENDA. AND SO WE NEED TO DO THAT BY FORMAL ACTION AGAIN. OKAY. SO THE, UH, FLOOR IS OPEN FOR, UM, I GUESS, UH, DISCUSSION OR MOTION? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSTY. MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE TO CANCEL THE JANUARY 5TH, 2021 MEETING. SECOND. OKAY. I HAVE A MOTION, UM, FOR CANCELLATION OF THE JANUARY 5TH MEETING BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE. AND I CERTAINLY HEARD TWO FEMALE VOICES WITH THE SECOND. I CANNOT TELL WHICH ONE IT WAS. , THAT'S, OH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. OKAY. [03:25:01] AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL. UM, ANY, UM, QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? OKAY, ROLL CALL, VOTE PLEASE. COMMISSIONER GREENHOUSE? YES. COMMISSIONER JONES? YES. COMMISSIONER KAM? YES. COMMISSIONER HU AYE. COMMISSIONER ROMERO? YES. COMMISSIONER GIBBONS? YES. COMMISSIONER WHITE? YES. COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? YES. COMMISSIONER BUSANTE AYE. AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES. MOTION PASSES. 10 ZERO. OKAY, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT. SO WE ARE NOW AT ADJOURN. IT'S CURRENTLY, UH, 4:34 PM AND I'D LIKE TO THANK MY COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR SERVICE. WISH YOU GOOD CHEER PEACE, GOOD HEALTH. AND WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE NEXT TIME. WE ARE ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.