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YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GOOD AFTERNOON, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
MY NAME IS JOY MCGEE AND I AM THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE ZONING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, AS WELL AS THE DISTRICT THREE ZONING COMMISSIONER.
I HEREBY CALL THIS REGULARLY NOTICE MEETING OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO ZONING COMMISSION INTO SESSION.
MAY WE HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS READ THE INTERPRETATION SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR THIS MEETING? THANK YOU.
[Roll Call]
ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.UM, MAY YOU PLEASE REVIEW OUR MEETING FORMAT.
TO PROTECT THE HEALTH OF THE PUBLIC AND LIMIT THE POTENTIAL SPREAD OF COVID 19.
THE ZONING COMMISSION IS HOLDING MEETINGS VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
THESE STANDARDS ARE BASED UPON THE VARIOUS SUSPENDED PROVISIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT ISSUED BY THE TEXAS GOVERNOR IN RESPONSE TO THE C OVID 19 CRISIS AND ARE IN PLACE UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAN WATCH AND LISTEN TO THIS MEETING BY VISITING WWW.SANANTONIO.GOV/DSD OR BY CALLING IN FOR AUDIO ONLY AT TWO TEN TWO OH SIX FIVE FOUR EIGHT THREE.
TO INCORPORATE PUBLIC COMMENT, THERE ARE FOUR OPPORTUNITIES.
THESE INCLUDE EMAIL OR MAIL OF COMMENTS, DROPPING OFF COMMENTS, LEAVING VOICEMAIL, OR ASKING TO BE CALLED DURING THE MEETING.
STATEMENTS OR COMMENTS RECEIVED ARE PART OF THE OFFICIAL WRITTEN RECORD FOR ITEMS ON INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION FOLLOWING THE PRESENTATION BY THE APPLICANT.
STAFF WILL READ INTO THE RECORD ANY EMAILS OR LETTERS RECEIVED, AND STAFF WILL ALSO PLAY ANY MESSAGES RECEIVED BY VOICEMAIL.
LASTLY, FOR THOSE SIGNED UP TO RECEIVE A CALL BACK, WE WILL CALL THEM TO STATE THEIR TWO MINUTE COMMENTS.
SPANISH INTERPRETERS ARE ON STANDBY AS NEEDED.
THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY FOR REBUTTAL WITH A TWO MINUTE TIME LIMIT ALONG WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS COMMISSION QUESTIONS.
UM, STAFF, WOULD YOU PLEASE REVIEW THE CURRENT LIST OF CONSENT INDIVIDUAL AND ANY POSTPONE OR WITHDRAWN ITEMS? ITEM NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FOR THE COMBINED HEARING.
WE HAVE ITEMS 3, 4, 5, 6, AND EIGHT.
AND ON INDIVIDUAL WE HAVE 2, 7, 9, AND 10.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, YOU'RE OKAY WITH THE CURRENT MEETING FORMAT? OKAY.
UM, STEPH, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UM, READ
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THE REMAINING, UM, THE COMBINED HEARING, NUMBER ONE COMBINED HEARING, BEGINNING WITH ITEM NUMBER THREE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FIVE H A H O D TO R FIVE C D H A H O D WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR TWO DWELLING UNITS LOCATED AT 6 2 2 SHERMAN STREET.MALES ZERO RECEIVED IN FAVOR INSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, ZERO IN OPPOSITION INSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY, NINE IN
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OPPOSITION OUTSIDE THE 200 FOOT BOUNDARY.AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM NUITY HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION AND THE CONSERVATION SOCIETY IS AN OPPOSITION.
ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM RE TO R SIX.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 1 7 2 BONAIR DRIVE.
THERE WERE 14 NOTICES MAILED OUT.
WE RECEIVED ZERO IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM COMANCHE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX CD WITH A CONDITIONAL USE FOR A DETACHED LIVING QUARTER TO R THREE WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 5 3 5 WEST KING HIGHWAY.
THERE WERE 26 NOTICES SENT OUT.
WE RECEIVED ZERO IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION.
AN ALTA VISTA NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS IN SUPPORT.
ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C THREE TO ID Z, ONE WITH PERMITTED AND C ONE LIKE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND FOR A DWELLING UNIT.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 3 3 3 1 WEST COMMERCE STREET.
THERE WERE 32 NOTICES MAILED OUT.
WE RECEIVED ONE IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM PROSPECT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R SIX TO OH ONE.
ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME, GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 7,200 BLOCK OF ERMAN ROAD.
THERE WERE 10 NOTICES SENT OUT.
WE RECEIVED ONE IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE IS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
ACTUALLY, WE'RE GONNA CORRECT THAT ONE.
THERE WAS NO COMMENT FROM THE FRIENDS OF SAN ANTONIO WILDERNESS AREA.
ALL RIGHT, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR A MOTION.
MADAM CHAIR, I'M TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL FOR ITEMS NUMBER 3, 4, 5, 6, AND EIGHT I SECOND JONES.
WE HAVE A MOTION, UH, FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSTAMONTE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
UM, LET'S DO OUR INDIVIDUAL HEARING ITEMS PLEASE.
ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM
[2. 20-6128 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700163 S ERZD (Council District 8)]
C TWO AND R SIX TO C THREE S WITH A SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT AND C THREE C D SS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION FOR WAREHOUSING WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.GENERALLY LOCATED AT 48 86 WEST LOOP, 1504 NORTH.
THERE WERE 10 NOTICES SENT OUT.
WE RECEIVED ZERO IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO REGISTERED NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
STAFF DOES NOT FIND EVIDENCE OF LIKELY ADVERSE IMPACT ON ING LANDS IN RELATION TO THIS ZONING CHANGE REQUEST.
THE PROPOSED C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL BASED ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.
THE REQUESTED SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IS FOR A NON-COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, AND THE OTHER PORTION OF THE REQUEST IS FOR CONDITIONAL USE AND SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION IS FOR WAREHOUSING IN THE E R Z D.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A REVISED SITE PLAN.
STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND SAWS WILL PRESENT THEIR REPORT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
I HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL AND STAYING SAFE.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL BARR AND I WORK IN THE RESOURCE PROTECTION DIVISION OF THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM.
UH, WE HAVE REVIEWED THE ZONING APPLICATION FOR Z 20 21 0 7 1 0 0 1 6 3 LOCATED AT 48 86 NORTH LOOP, 1604 WEST OF THE OVERALL 63.3 ACRES.
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RECHARGE ZONE AND THE REMAINING PORTION IS 12.7 ACRES.LOCATED OUTSIDE THE RECHARGE ZONE OF THE TRACK SAW STAFF, MYSELF, SA STAFF, MYSELF, THE DIRECTOR OF RESOURCE PROTECTION AND A STAFF SA STAFF GEOLOGIST COMPLETED A SITE INVESTIGATION OF THE ENTIRE TRACK ON JULY 30TH.
DURING THE INVESTIGATION, STAFF OBSERVED NUMEROUS RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES, UH, ASSOCIATED OUTBUILDINGS, UH, SEVERAL ABANDONED VEHICLES, UH, SEVERAL SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND TWO WELLS, WHICH INCLUDED AN ACTIVE WELL CURRENTLY IN USE BY THE RESIDENTS.
AND IT FILLED IN HAND DUG WELL, A MAPPED FAULT TRANSECTS THE PROPERTY AND A FLOODPLAIN INTERSECTS DIAGONALLY THROUGH THE PROPERTY.
NO SENSITIVE GEOLOGIC FEATURES WERE OBSERVED ON SITE DURING THE INVESTIGATION, UH, NOR WERE ANY, UH, NOTED IN A GEOLOGIC ASSESSMENT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO US BY THE DEVELOPER.
SAUL'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED ON THE RECHARGE ZONE IS LIMITED, LIMITED TO 60% OF PERVIOUS COVER AND A FLOODPLAIN BUFFER WILL BE REQUIRED.
I RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WITH ALL OF SAUL'S RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE SAUL'S REPORT.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YES.
THIS IS ASHLEY FAIRMONT WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMONT.
I'M ALSO JOINED HERE TODAY WITH, UH, BY AARON RINKY WITH KIMLEY HORN ENGINEERS.
UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO REVIEW THIS REQUEST.
UH, IF WE COULD JUMP TO MY PRESENTATION ON SLIDE TWO PLEASE.
UH, THIS HERE IS AN AERIAL OF THE PROPERTY AND AS MIKE AND WAS MENTIONED BY STAFF, WE'RE REQUESTING TO REZONE.
IT'S ABOUT 63 ACRES NORTH OF 1604 IN LOCK HILL SELMA, AND THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS FOR A DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS BORDERED TO THE NORTH BY MARTIN MARIETTA QUARRY TO THE WEST BY A BUSINESS PARK AND TO THE EAST BY A RETAIL CENTER.
AND AS YOU CAN ALSO SEE, HAS QUITE A BIT OF FRONTAGE ON 1604 TO THE SOUTH.
UH, BECAUSE OF THIS FRONTAGE, THIS SITE IS IDEAL FOR A DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
IT HAS DIRECT ACCESS ONTO THE, A MAJOR HIGHWAY AND 1604 AND ALSO HAS CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE INTERSECTION OF I 10 AND 1604.
UH, IF WE COULD JUMP TO SLIDE FOUR, ACTUALLY, THE ZONING MAP.
UM, HERE YOU'LL SEE A CURRENT ZONING MAP OF THE AREA AND THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE JUST USING THIS TO SHOW THAT THE REQUESTED C THREE BASE ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING C THREE AND C TWO ZONING, AS WELL AS INDUSTRIAL AND INQUIRY ZONING THAT'S SURROUND THE PROPERTY, UM, TO THE SOUTH ACROSS 1604 AND THEN DIRECTLY TO THE NORTH.
UH, WE ARE REQUESTING A BASE ZONING FOR THIS SITE OF C THREE COMMERCIAL.
UM, THIS SLIDE REALLY GETS INTO THE SPECIFICS OF THE REQUEST.
SO IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SOUTH AND WEST PORTION OF THE SITE THAT'S OUTLINED IN BLUE, UM, THIS IS WHERE WE'RE REQUESTING THE WAREHOUSING USE.
THIS IS WHERE THE ACTUAL DISTRIBUTION FACILITY WILL BE LOCATED.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING ON THE PLAN.
IT'S ABOUT 140,000 SQUARE FEET FRONTING UP ON 1604, MOSTLY WITHIN THAT CONTRIBUTING ZONE AREA.
AND THEN YOU, THIS IS, UH, WE'RE ASKING HERE FOR THE WAREHOUSING USE.
IT DOES REQUIRE BOTH A SPECIFIC USE BECAUSE OF THE RECHARGE ZONE AND A CONDITIONAL USE BECAUSE OF THE C THREE BASED ZONING.
AND THEN, AS MIKE MENTIONED, THE SITE IS TRANSECTED DOWN THE MIDDLE BY THE FLOODPLAIN, WHICH WILL REMAIN AS IS AND WILL, YOU WILL COMPLY WITH ALL REQUIRED BUFFERING PER THE WATER QUALITY ORDINANCE AND THE ZONING RECOMMENDATION FROM SAWS.
AND THEN ON THE NORTHERN AND EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE OUTLINED IN RED, UH, THIS WILL BE A, A PARKING LOT THAT WILL SERVICE THE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS.
SO PARKING FOR EMPLOYEES, PARKING FOR CARS THAT VANS THAT USE THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
SO ON THIS PORTION OF THE SITE, IT'LL HAVE THE C THREE BASED ZONING ALSO, BUT WE'RE ASKING FOR THE SPECIFIC USE AUTHORIZATION SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE OF THE RECHARGE ZONE.
UH, SO AS MIKE MENTIONED, UH, SOAZ WENT OUT TO THE SITE QUITE QUITE SOME TIME AGO, AND WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM FOR MONTHS ON THIS REQUEST.
AND SO I WANNA THANK THEM FOR TAKING THE TIME TO VISIT THE PROPERTY TO REALLY DIG INTO WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IN DETAIL, UM, AND THEN PUT TOGETHER THEIR REPORT.
WE ARE AGREEABLE TO ALL THE CONDITIONS AND SAWS REPORT.
UM, AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ZONING AND THE USE HERE ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA AND THE SURROUNDING USES AND ALSO IS, IS VERY COMPATIBLE, UH, WITH THIS LOCATION AND IS, IS IDEAL FOR DISTRIBUTION.
SO WE REQUEST THAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL TODAY.
UM, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, SETH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? GO AHEAD.
THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS CASE.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MIKE BARR, PLEASE.
I, I HAD HAD SOME QUESTIONS BEFORE AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR ANSWERING THEM.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER THE HIGHLIGHTS OF
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THAT, UM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I SAW IN THE SAS REPORT WAS THERE'S A FAULT IN THIS AREA, IN THIS PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT AT ALL UNUSUAL, UH, FOR THIS AREA 10 AND 1604, BUT IT'S, IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNCOMMON FOR US TO SEE IN SAS REPORT.SO, UM, MIKE, I JUST WANTED TO GO OVER TWO THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, ONE IS THAT, UH, IN, IN A WAY THIS IS REALLY FORTUNATE TO HAVE THIS ZONING CHANGE BECAUSE IT WILL SPUR REMOVAL OF THE SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND THE WELLS THAT ARE THERE.
AND SO YOU WOULD AGREE THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE AN IMPROVEMENT AS FAR AS RECHARGE PROTECTION? UH, YES, THAT IS CORRECT.
TYPICALLY, WHEN WE DO, UH, A REZONING OR A REVIEW, A ZONING ON THE RECHARGE ZONE, IF THERE'S AN OLD RESIDENCE OR HOUSE, OFTEN YOU'LL FIND OLD SEPTIC SYSTEMS AND THEY CAN'T, I'M NOT SAYING THIS ONE IS, WE DIDN'T INSPECT IT, BUT THEY CAN BE IN THIS REPAIR.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE ALWAYS RECOMMEND, UH, PROPERLY, UH, SEALING OR, OR PLUGGING THE SEPTIC SYSTEM.
AND THEN I, I LEARNED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT FAULTS THAT DEPENDING ON THE FAULT, THEY CAN ACTUALLY, IT CAN ACTUALLY PRECLUDE RECHARGE OR IT CAN ENHANCE RECHARGE.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU HAD SAID IN RESPONSE TO ME IS THAT, UM, WHENEVER WORK IS BEING DONE AT A SITE, THERE'S ALWAYS A CHANCE THAT A SUBSURFACE SENSITIVE FEATURE COULD BE DISCOVERED DURING CONSTRUCTION, EVEN WHEN THERE ARE NO FAULTS.
AND THAT JUST, UM, MADE ME THINK OF A QUESTION.
SO EVEN THOUGH WHEN YOUR REPORT SAYS THAT NO SENSITIVE FEATURES WERE OBSERVED, AND THEN IF DURING CONSTRUCTION, A A SENSITIVE FEATURE IS ACTUALLY FOUND, WHAT HAPPENS AT THAT POINT? YES.
SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO FIND A SENSITIVE, UH, GEOLOGIC FEATURE THAT IS SUBSURFACE WITH NO SURFACE EXPRESSION, UM, BEFORE CONSTRUCTION OCCURS.
UH, THAT CAN MEAN ANYTHING FROM A CAVE OR A SOLUTION CAVITY.
AND THAT USUALLY HAPPENS DURING THE TRENCHING, THE SEWER TRENCHING, THE WATERLINE TRENCHING, OR EVEN EVEN, UH, BUILDING FOUNDATIONS.
UH, AND SO WHAT HAPPENS IS, UH, WHENEVER THEY'RE TRENCHING, THEY HAVE TO STOP, THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY T C Q, UM, WE GET A NOTIFICATION FROM T C Q AFTER T C Q GETS A NOTIFICATION, AND THEN WE, UM, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A PLAN TO T C Q EXPLAINING HOW THEY'RE GONNA PROPERLY SEAL THAT SUBSURFACE FEATURE.
IF WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH IT OR A CONCERN, WE WILL MAKE, UH, FURTHER RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THAT ARE, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS? OKAY, NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER ROMERO FOR ITEM TWO, THEN I RECOMMEND APPROVAL WITH ALL SAS CONDITIONS, SECOND MCDANIEL.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL, UM, WITH, UM, SAS CONDITIONS BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY DISCUSSION OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
VICE CHAIR MR. AYE AND CHAIR MCGEE? YES.
THE MOTION PASSES FOR APPROVAL 11 ZERO.
[7. 20-5867 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700208 (Council District 5)]
REQUEST TO REZONE FROM R FOUR TO C TWO.ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
LOCATED AT 9 2 8 SOUTH SAN AUGUSTINE AVENUE.
THERE WERE 28 NOTICES SENT OUT AND WE RECEIVED ZERO IN FAVOR, ONE IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM THE LAS PAAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
THE EXISTING R FOUR BASED ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE SURROUNDING AREA, AND SO IS THE PROPOSED C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
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THE PROPOSED C TWO WOULD ALLOW A PARKING LOT AS WELL AS OTHER C TWO COMMERCIAL USES.MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? MR. SANCHEZ? ALEJANDRO, ARE YOU THERE? HI, UH, NO, THIS IS ISAAC MENDO.
YEAH, SO I'LL, UH, SO BASICALLY WE'RE JUST CALLING, UH, REGARDING THE, THE, THE ZONING CHANGE ON THE PROPERTY OF 9 28 SOUTH SAN AUGUSTINE AVENUE.
UM, AND THE PURPOSE FOR THE ZONING WAS TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE PARKING FOR, FOR THE BUSINESS WHERE THEY CAN ENTER, ENTER THROUGH GENERAL MCMULLEN SIDE AND AVOID ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC ON THE SOUTH SIDE AUGUSTINE SIDE, ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR OUR ZONING REQUEST FOR THAT PROPERTY.
WE WILL LIKELY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
SO IF YOU'LL, UH, STAND BY JUST FOR A MOMENT.
UM, STEPH, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE'S NO PUBLIC INPUT ON THIS.
YOU ACTUALLY SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER REGARDING THIS PROJECT, UM, THAT HAD SOME ISSUES REGARDING ENTRY FROM, UH, SAN SAN AUGUSTINE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE USAGE ENVISIONED HERE DOES NOT HAVE ANY ISSUES.
EXCUSE ME, COMMISSIONER? YES, I'M SORRY.
WE CAN, WE'RE HAVING A VERY HARD TIME HEARING YOU.
ALRIGHT, LEMME TRY ANOTHER ONE.
IS THAT AT ALL BETTER? DO YOU STILL FIND SOUND SOMEWHAT FAR AWAY? UM, IS THAT BETTER? GOOD.
UH, SOMEHOW I SWITCHED OVER MY MICROPHONE, I APOLOGIZE.
YOU SAID PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT I THINK I WANTED TO HEAR HERE.
UH, WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER FROM A NEIGHBOR THAT WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE, UM, ACCESS FROM SOUTH SAN AUGUSTINE.
UH, BUT THAT IS NOT THE INTENTION HERE, CORRECT? YOU ONLY WANT TO HAVE ACCESS FROM GENERAL MCMULLEN? THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.
UM, BEING RIGHT, RIGHT NOW, THE, WE ONLY HAVE LIMITED ENTRANCE SPACE, I MEAN, PARKING SPACE IN THE FRONT.
UH, SO THE WHOLE PURPOSE WAS TO DO THE BACK PART PARKING SO THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE VEHICLES TO COME IN THROUGH THE GENERAL MC MULLIN SIDE PARK IN THE PARKING LOT, UM, AND THEN, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, COME BACK OUT AND, AND, AND EXIT THE GENERAL MCMULLEN SIDE.
UM, TO, TO AVOID WHATEVER THE RESIDENTS ARE HAVING ON THE SUN AUGUSTINE SIDE AT THIS TIME, MR. MENDOZA.
UM, SO THE ROOFING SUPPLY COMPANY FACES GENERAL MCMULLEN, UM, AND DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER PROPERTY ON THE SAN AUGUSTINE SIDE? WELL, I, I OWN, UH, WELL, WE, WE OWN THE ONE THAT'S CURRENTLY RIGHT BEHIND, UH, THE BUSINESS ON THE GERMAN MONEY SIDE.
SO WE OWN THE 9 29 24, AND, AND WE JUST RECENTLY BOUGHT 9 28 IN THE BACK.
SO THAT'LL GIVE US ABOUT MAYBE 190 TO A HUNDRED FEET TOWARDS THE BACK OF PARKING SPACE ON THE REAR PART, THE SAN OF THE SAN AUGUSTINE SIDE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S BEFORE, UM, THIS JUST THE ONLY WAY THAT WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THE BUSINESS, THE ROOFING SUPPLY BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF PARKING ON THE FRONT SIDE.
NOW, UH, QUESTION FOR STAFF, GIVEN THAT THERE DOES APPEAR TO BE SOME R FOUR THAT ABUTS THE C TWO, WHAT ARE THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THERE, IF ANY? STRUCTURE 30 FEET TO THE REAR, 10 FOR THE SIDE, 30 FEET FOR THE REAR, AND 10 FOR THE SIDE.
I THINK THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR.
UM, ANY COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS?
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OKAY, UH, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? CAN YOU HEAR ME? HELLO? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOUSO, UM, MY, MY QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT IS YOU'RE PURCHASING THAT YOU PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY AND YOU WANNA REZONE IT JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF PARKING CUSTOMER VEHICLES THERE? OR ARE YOU GONNA BE PARKING YOUR ROOFING TRUCKS THERE? UH, THE, THE ROOFING, THE ROOFING TRUCKS, THE CUSTOM PARTS AND ANY, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE PARKING? YES, YES, MA'AM.
AND WHAT TIME, UH, WHAT HOURS OF OPERATION FOR YOUR COMPANY THAT THOSE TRUCKS ARE ROLLING IN AND OUT? WE OPEN UP FROM EIGHT IN THE MORNING UNTIL FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND IS THAT SEVEN DAYS A WEEK OR IS THAT SIX DAYS, WHAT? IT'S SIX, SIX DAYS A WEEK AND, AND, AND PROBABLY LIKE HALF, HALF DAY ON SATURDAYS.
AND SO WHEN YOU MAKE THAT INTO A PARKING LOT, WILL YOU DO A PRIVACY FENCE AND CLOSE OFF ANY EXITS OR ENTRANCES OFF OF SAN AUGUSTINE? YES, WE CAN, WE CAN PUT A PRIVACY IN, IN THE BACK PART AND WE CAN ALSO PUT IT ON THE SIDE SO THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, IT WON'T BE ANY EYESORE TO THE RESIDENCE ON SAN AUGUSTINE'S SIDE.
THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY COMMISSIONER'S, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS, THE APPLICANT? ARE YOU DISPOSING OF ASPHALT MATERIALS AFTER YOU'VE TAKEN IT OFF A ROOF? DOES IT, ARE YOU ALSO DISPOSING IT ON THIS SITE? NO, THERE, THERE'S NOT THIS, IT IS JUST A, WE DON'T DO ANY, UM, IT'S JUST MAINLY MORE THE SALE OF ROOFING MATERIALS AT THIS PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S NOT ANY MATERIALS, I MEAN, UNUSED MATERIALS THAT ARE BROUGHT BY HERE.
SO NOTHING IS BEING DISPOSED OF HERE AFTER THE JOBS.
SO NO ASPHALT MATERIAL THAT WAS SITTING TOO LONG OR IS UNUSED, GETS DISPOSED OF ON THE SITE? UM, NO, PRE PRETTY MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE BUY JUST ENOUGH OF THAT WHERE THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH, AND, AND THEN THIS WAY, WHENEVER WE NEED MORE INVENTORY, THEN WE COULD BUY MORE INVENTORY AT THAT TIME.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER GIBBONS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER SIPES? YES.
THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF, UH, REGARDING YOUR BUFFER, UH, THAT YOU, YOU SPOKE OF, YOU SAID 30 FEET FROM THE REAR SINCE, UH, SINCE THERE'S A STREET THAT, THAT IS BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THIS PROPERTY.
DOES THAT, DO YOU STILL HAVE THAT BUFFER THERE, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A, A STREET SEPARATOR? SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF, UH, I GUESS ISSUES YOU'RE LOOKING AT SETBACKS VERSUS BUFFERS.
UH, SO SETBACKS ARE ONLY TRIGGERED IF IT'S A, A BUDDING, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, USED FOR ZONE, UM, BUT IT DOESN'T APPLY.
IF IT IS A BUDDING A STREET, THEN THAT'S FOR SETBACKS, A SETBACK FOR, UH, BUILDINGS, FOR BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S ALL ABOUT ZONING DISTRICT, UH, BUDDING THE ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, SO A C TWO ZONING DISTRICT, A BUDDING, AN R FOUR, UH, ZONING DISTRICT WOULD BE A TYPE B BUFFER, WHICH IS ABOUT A 15 FOOT BUFFER YARD REQUIREMENT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A, A BUDDING ZONING DISTRICT.
SO THERE'S STILL YOUR STANDARD LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, FOR PROPERTIES AT FRONT THE STREET.
BUT CONSIDERING THAT THIS WOULD BE THE REAR, UM, IT WOULD ONLY HAVE A FENCING, IF YOU WILL, OF, UH, ADJACENT TO THAT SOUTH SAN AUGUSTINE, BECAUSE THE FRONT REALLY IS RELATED TO THE SOUTH GENERAL MCMULLEN PROPERTY.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? KIND? YEAH, KIND OF.
I I, I THINK I, I JUST ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT, THAT, SO, SO EVEN THOUGH THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A STREET THERE, IT'S STILL CONSIDERED, IT'S CONSIDERED A BUDDING THE RESIDENTIAL IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? RIGHT.
SO AGAIN, IF THIS WAS FRONTING
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SOUTH, SOUTH AUGUSTINE, YOU WOULD HAVE YOUR NORMAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER YARD, UM MM-HMM.THAT WOULD BE THE NORMAL THING THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE.
UH, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS THE REAR, IT, IT WOULD BE YOU, IT, IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU SEE A REAR OF A PROPERTY ABUTTING THE STREET, YOU WOULD SEE A FENCE AND THE SIDEWALK MM-HMM.
AND, AND THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY, COMMISSIONER BUSA, MATE.
UM, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WITH A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? I MEAN, UH, DISCUSSION
UM, IT, OH, IT WENT BACK ON MUTE.
SORRY, I'M HITTING TOO HARD, I GUESS.
UM, I, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THIS ONE JUST A BIT.
WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE BUSINESS IS FACING, ACTUALLY, GENERAL MCMULLEN, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO PARK THEIR, THEIR TRAFFIC AT THE BACK INTO WHAT IS RIGHT NOW, TYPICALLY HOUSING AREA, UM, I'M JUST KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH THAT, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO ENSURE THAT THAT ENTRANCE AND EXIT ON SOUTH SAN AUGUSTINE WILL ACTUALLY BE CLOSED.
I UNDERSTAND THE APPLICANT SAID HE IS WILLING TO DO THAT, BUT THERE'S, IT'S NO CONDITIONAL USE, SO NO WAY TO PUT THAT IN AS A CONDITION.
BUT, UM, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THOSE WHERE IT, I STRUGGLE WITH IT BECAUSE THERE IS R FOUR AROUND IT.
THE, WHAT RESIDENTS REMAIN ARE GONNA BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO KIND OF LIVE WITH THIS.
AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT, UM, AND, AND ASK THE APPLICANT TO DO THE BEST THAT HE CAN TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING BEHIND THIS BUSINESS.
ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? OKAY.
STAFF COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE? YES.
[9. 20-6054 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700212 (Council District 1): A request for a change in zoning from "FBZD T4-2 HS AHOD" Form Based Zone District Transect 4 Historic Landmark Airport Hazard Overlay District to "D HS AHOD" Downtown Historic Landmark Airport Hazard Overlay District on Lot 2, Lots 4 through 9, and Lot 11, Block 6, NCB 442, 0.664 acres out of NCB 442, and 0.994 acres out of NCB 442, generally located at 624 North Alamo Street and 609 Avenue E. Staff recommends Denial. (Michael Pepe, Planner, (210) 207-8208, Michael.Pepe@sanantonio.gov, Development Services Department)]
TO REZONE FROM SS D Z TO D WITH ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.LOCATED AT 6 2 4 NORTH ALAMO STREET AND 6 0 9 AVENUE E.
THERE WERE 36 NOTICES MAILED, ZERO IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE FROM DOWNTOWN.
DOWNTOWN RESIDENCE ASSOCIATION.
THE CURRENT R FIVE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY IS AN APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY.
THE ENTIRE AREA IS PURPOSEFULLY ZONED SS B Z D FORM BASED ZONING DISTRICT.
PROPOSED D DOWNTOWN DISTRICT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE SITE OR SURROUNDING AREA.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN SS B Z D ZONING SINCE MUCH PLANNING WENT INTO CREATING A PARTICULAR DESIGN AND FORM FOR DEVELOPMENTS WITHIN MANY BLOCKS IN THIS AREA.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? YEAH.
THIS IS JAMES GRIFFIN WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FERMAN.
UM, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? YES, SIR.
UM, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND SKIP TO SLIDE TWO.
UM, SO THIS IS A PROPERTY, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST AN ENTIRE BLOCK.
UM, A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE AND A HALF, UH, BOUNDED BY, UH, BROOKLYN AND, UH, NORTH ALAMO AVENUE E UH, AND SIXTH STREET.
UM, UH, RIGHT BY ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK OR SO, UH, OFF OF 2 81, UM, AND 37,
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UH, RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY FROM THE HAY STREET BRIDGE TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A, A BETTER IDEA, UH, OF THE AREA.AND THIS IS IN THE AREA CALLED RIVER NORTH, JUST ABOUT A BLOCK OFF OF BROADWAY AS WELL.
UM, THE PROPERTY, UH, IS CURRENTLY USED MOSTLY, UH, FOR, UH, A FUNERAL HOME.
THIS IS OWNED BY, UH, THE TS FAMILY AND, AND MISSION PARK FUNERAL HOMES, UM, LOCAL SAN ANTONIO GROUP.
THEY'VE OWNED THIS FOR A WHILE, UH, OPERATE A FUNERAL HOME OFFICE, UH, AND, AND A HANDFUL OF OTHER, UH, USES THERE.
BUT, UM, HAVE BEEN, UH, ACTIVELY ENGAGED WITH, UH, THE REDEVELOPMENT, OR AT LEAST PLANNING FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
UM, AND ANOTHER THING WORTH NOTING, JUST AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND, AND WHERE IT IS AND KIND OF THE HISTORY OF IT, UH, THIS WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL 36 SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY.
SO IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
UH, THIS WHOLE AREA IS DEVELOPED WITH A, A REALLY HODGEPODGE OF USES, BUT, UH, AS THINGS ARE RAPIDLY REDEVELOPING ALONG BROADWAY AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY, UH, THIS, THIS AREA WILL HOPEFULLY CATCH UP SOON.
UM, GO TO SLIDE THREE, PLEASE, OR THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO THIS, AND I'LL COME BACK TO THIS, UH, GRAPHIC HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, AT LEAST, UH, AS WE'RE TALKING THROUGH THE ZONING CHANGE.
BUT THIS IS THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UH, SO WHAT THIS MAP REALLY MEANS, AND IT, IT, UH, CORRESPONDS PRETTY CLOSELY WITH THOSE ORIGINAL 36 SQUARE MILES OF THE CITY.
UH, BUT THIS IS THE AREA, UH, THAT IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT.
SO, UH, THE D DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT IS ONE OF THOSE THAT IS ONLY AVAILABLE WHEN CERTAIN CRITERIA ARE MET.
UH, MOST NOTABLY HAS TO BE IN A CERTAIN AREA, HAS TO BE DOWNTOWN.
UH, AND, AND THIS IS THE AREA THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, EMBEDDED THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND IS, THIS MAP IS STRAIGHT FROM THE U D C SHOWING WHERE PROPER PROPERTY, UH, CAN BE ZONED TO THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT.
AND YOU SEE THE, THE LITTLE RED STAR, UH, NOT EVEN ON THE PERIPHERY OF THIS AREA.
UH, PRETTY CLOSE TO CENTER OF, UH, OF THE ELIGIBLE AREA FOR DOWNTOWN.
SO, UM, HERE'S, UH, AND I'LL, I'LL FLIP THROUGH THESE, UH, QUICKLY, BUT, UM, A FEW NOTES ON THE PLAN.
SO WE ARE WITHIN, UH, THE RECENTLY ADOPTED DOWNTOWN REGIONAL CENTER AREA LAND USE PLAN.
UM, PART OF THE, ALL THE NEW PLANS ARE BEING ADOPTED, UH, ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UH, OUR PROPERTY, AS YOU SEE HERE, AND EVERYTHING AROUND IT, UH, IN PURPLE, UH, IS DESIGNATED REGIONAL MIXED USE.
SO HERE ARE A FEW SNIPPETS FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.
UH, THE HIGHLIGHTED ONES ARE, ARE REALLY, UH, WHAT I WANNA CALL ATTENTION TO.
SO, UM, REGIONAL MIXED USE, AGAIN, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE DESIGNATED.
IT CONTAINS RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL, AND INSTITUTIONAL USES AT HIGH DENSITIES.
HIGH DENSITIES BEING ONE OF THE KEY TERMS THERE.
UM, THE, UH, THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOTED IN THERE ARE, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT MID TO HIGH-RISE BUILDING, STRUCTURED PARKING, UH, AND, AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, UH, PERMITTED, PERMITTED ZONING DISTRICTS.
YOU SEE THE D DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT IS INCLUDED AS A PERMITTED ZONING DISTRICT.
AND, UH, STRANGELY ENOUGH, UH, F B C D IS, IS NOT INCLUDED THERE.
UH, MOVING ON TO SLIDE SIX, NEXT SLIDE.
UM, SO HERE ARE A FEW MORE, UH, ITEMS FROM THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.
UH, YOU SEE THE GOALS OF THE PLAN.
IT'S ALL ABOUT ENCOURAGING REDEVELOPMENT, UM, RESPECTING HISTORIC PLACES, UH, AND REALLY TRYING TO GROW THE STREET LEVEL, UH, WHICH ALL CORRESPOND DIRECTLY REALLY WITH, UH, WITH OUR PROPOSED PROJECT, WHICH, WHICH I'LL GET INTO THE DETAILS OF, OF THAT HERE IN A SECOND.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, NUMBER NUMBER SEVEN.
UH, A FEW MORE NOTES HERE ON THE PLAN.
UH, NOTE, THERE'S, IT'S KIND OF IN THE SMALL PRINT AT THE BOTTOM, BUT, UH, VERY IMPORTANT COMMENTS COMING OUT OF THE CREATION OF THIS PLAN AND ACTUALLY CONTAINED IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.
UH, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE LACK OF DEVELOPMENT IN THIS IMMEDIATE AREA.
AND, AND I MENTIONED THAT A SECOND AGO, AND I THINK ALL Y'ALL ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
YOU, YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF REDEVELOPMENT RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY AND AROUND, UH, THE HAY STREET BRIDGE AREA, YOU KNOW, DIGNITY HILL, REALLY JUST RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY.
UH, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, BROADWAY'S OBVIOUSLY GOING THROUGH A TRANSFORMATION AS WELL.
A LOT OF NEW DEVELOPMENT, UH, THERE,
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THIS LITTLE AREA HAS, HAS REALLY STRUGGLED.UM, AND, AND A PLAN NOTES THAT IT'S MOSTLY JUST PARKING LOTS.
UM, AND I THINK THERE'S A HANDFUL OF REASONS FOR THAT, BUT I JUST KINDA WANNA CALL EVERYBODY'S ATTENTION TO THAT.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE ABOUT THE ACTUAL ZONING.
SO HERE'S OUR PROPERTY OUTLINE.
UH, AND YOU SEE WE ARE F B Z T FOUR TWO.
UH, SO THAT'S THE FORM-BASED ZONING DISTRICT TRANSECT ZONE FOUR, UH, LEVEL TWO, WHICH IS ABOUT AS CONFUSING AS IT SOUNDS.
UM, THE, THE ZONING THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, AGAIN, IS, IS THE D DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, UH, TO ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE PROJECT.
I THINK I KIND GLOSSED OVER THAT IMPORTANT DETAIL, THAT, THAT'S THE PURPOSE FOR THE REZONING, UH, IS TO ALLOW FOR A MIXED USE REDEVELOPMENT ON THIS PROPERTY CONSISTING OF, UH, GROUND FLOOR RETAIL, SOME OFFICE, UH, SOME RESIDENTIAL, AND POTENTIALLY HOTEL USE AS WELL.
UH, ALL THE STRUCTURED PARKING TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE USES.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE, THE NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE NINE.
UM, THIS IS JUST SHOWING, SO THOSE RED LINES ARE BASICALLY WHERE THE EXISTING DOWNTOWN ZONING, UM, STOPS.
SO, UH, WE'RE ABOUT TWO BLOCKS AWAY TO THE SOUTH, KIND OF SOUTHWEST OF, UH, WHERE ALL THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED DOWNTOWN.
AND THEN, UM, RIGHT ACROSS THE HIGHWAY, YOU SEE EVERYTHING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY IS ZONED THE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AS WELL.
UH, NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE NUMBER 10.
SO, UH, HERE ARE A FEW PIECES FROM THE FORM-BASED ZONING DISTRICT, UM, PROVISIONS.
AND, UH, WHAT I WANNA SHOW Y'ALL HERE IS JUST REALLY HOW COMPLICATED AND CONVOLUTED AND CONFUSING, UH, AND RESTRICTIVE F B Z D IS.
I, I, I KNOW IT'S WELL INTENTIONED, UM, BUT IT'S REALLY SUPPOSED TO APPLY IN OTHER AREAS.
F B Z D WAS FIRST CREATED, UH, FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO APPLY TO WHAT WAS CALLED CITY SOUTH AND THE, THE VERANO, TEXAS A AND M DEVELOPMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ACRES, UH, OF MOSTLY RAW, UNDEVELOPED LAND, UH, WHICH REALLY WAS CONDUCIVE TO F P Z D AND, AND PERFECT FOR, UH, THAT TYPE OF, OF DEVELOPMENT.
ROMERO WORKED ON THAT, I BELIEVE, UM, THAT ZONING, UH, CODE AS WELL, AND, AND PROBABLY HAS SOME MORE INSIGHT.
IT WAS SOMETHING I EXPERIENCED RIGHT OUTTA SCHOOL, UH, STARTING IN THIS, IN THIS FIELD.
AND IT, IT WAS GREAT TO STUDY.
UM, VERY INTERESTING CODE AND INTERESTING CONCEPT, AGAIN, MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE FOR, UH, A HUGE AREA OF LAND.
UH, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR SMALL, UH, INFILL PARCELS.
UM, AGAIN, IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT TO STUDY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, 10, 15 YEARS LATER, SEEING HOW IT IS REALLY NOT PRACTICAL IN REAL LIFE.
UM, BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE CODE.
AND JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF THAT.
SO, THE F P C D PROVISIONS IN THE U D C, IT'S ALMOST A HUNDRED PAGES OF, OF RULES AND REGULATIONS.
UM, OVER 35 TABLES GO IN THERE TO SHOW VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE F B Z D, BUT REALLY JUST MENTION THAT TO, TO SHOW HOW COMPLICATED IT IS.
SO YOU HAVE ALMOST A HUNDRED PAGES OF CODE TO GO THROUGH 36 DIFFERENT TABLES TO, TO TRY TO WADE THROUGH, UH, TO FIGURE OUT IF YOUR USES ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED, WHAT YOUR RESTRICTIONS ARE GONNA BE.
UH, GOING BACK TO THIS SLIDE THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU NOW, YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT ARE SHOWN, HAMLETS, VILLAGES, REGIONAL CENTERS, UH, AND THEN INFILLS.
BUT YOU SEE IN THOSE FIRST THREE, THE SHEER SIZE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, UH, FOR THESE CODES TO, TO REALLY APPLY AND MAKE SENSE, UH, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST 20 CONTIGUOUS ACRES.
UH, THE NEXT ONE'S 80, THE NEXT ONE'S 160, UH, AND THEN THERE'S INFILL, BUT THAT'S NOT, UM, UH, IMPOSED ON THIS AREA.
THAT'S THE, UH, THE T SIX AREA, WHEREAS WE ARE T FOUR.
UM, SO A, A, A FEW MORE THINGS WITH THE F B Z D AND, AND I'LL GET TO THOSE, UH, HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES.
BUT, UM, JUST A FEW MORE THINGS TO CALL OUT.
UH, THE, THE MOST RECENT UPDATE TO F B Z D WAS A FEW YEARS AGO, AND, AND I THINK IT WAS, UH, STAFF REALIZING THAT, THAT THERE REALLY ARE SOME STRUGGLES FOR F B Z D IN THIS RIVER NORTH AREA.
AND, AND, AND AGAIN, I KNOW THE F B Z D BEING APPLIED TO THIS AREA WAS, WAS WELL INTENTIONED, BUT IT, IT JUST DOESN'T, DOESN'T WORK FOR, FOR THIS PROJECT,
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FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTED, UH, IN THE PAST AND, AND I THINK ALL PROJECTS IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.BUT, UH, THE UPDATE THAT WAS MADE WAS BASICALLY, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL PROVISIONS TO ALLOW MORE FLEXIBILITY AND EASIER PATH TOWARDS VARIANCES.
UH, THE REASON BEING, EVERY PROJECT WITHIN THE F I I'LL, I'LL WRAP UP VERY, VERY, VERY QUICKLY IF I CAN.
BUT, UH, THE, THE ISSUE THERE IS, UH, STAFF CLEARLY IDENTIFIED THAT VARIANCES WERE NEEDED, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, NOT JUST A VARIANCE, BUT MULTIPLE VARIANCES WERE NEEDED FOR ABOUT JUST ANY PROJECT, LARGE AND SMALL.
UH, AND OUR POSITION IS THAT IF A VARIANCE OR MULTIPLE VARIANCES ARE GONNA BE NECESSARY FOR A ZONING DISTRICT, KIND OF RIGHT OFF THE BAT BEFORE WE EVEN GET INTO THE WEEDS OF DESIGN, UH, THERE'S A FUNDAMENTAL FLAW WITH THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, AND AGAIN, THAT WAS EVEN BROUGHT TO A HEAD BY THE CODE AMENDMENTS, REALLY ALLOWING FOR AN EASIER PATH TO VARIANCES.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT HOW THAT ZONING SHOULD APPLY IF, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET A HANDFUL OF VARIANCES AND GO TO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, AND THEN IT'S PROBABLY THE WRONG ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, SO I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THE REST OF THESE REALLY QUICKLY.
UH, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR RUNNING OVER MY TIME HERE, BUT, UM, LIKE WHAT, 30 SECONDS
LET'S, UM, UH, LET'S SKIP TO SLIDE 13 IF WE CAN.
SO, UH, AS FAR AS THE OUTREACH, UH, WE'VE REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY IN THE AREA WITHIN 200 FEET.
UM, EVERYONE HAS BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE.
UH, THERE'S NO OPPOSITION, AS YOU HEARD DURING THE REPORT.
UH, WE ALSO HAD AN INFORMAL DISCUSSION WITH, UH, O H P STAFF BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE HISTORIC STRUCTURES ON THERE, UH, THAT WILL NEED TO BE PRESERVED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THEY WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE DOWNTOWN, UH, DISTRICT.
THEY, THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY OUR BUILDING LOOKED, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE FIXED, BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT SHOWING YOU RENDERING TODAY.
UH, AND THEN ALSO ANOTHER IMPORTANT PIECE THAT CAME OUT OF THAT, UH, THAT LEADS TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, IS GOING TO, THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT IMPOSES THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES ON THIS PROJECT, THIS PROJECT.
SO WE ARE BASICALLY VOLUNTARILY PUTTING THIS PROPERTY UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL REGULATION, UH, FOR STAFF FOR O H P, FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, AND, AND REALLY ENSURES THAT, THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA GONNA BE VIABLE.
THE LAST THING I'LL SAY BEFORE I GO OVER MY TIME LIMIT YET AGAIN, IS IN SHORT, I CAN GO ON AND ON, AND CLEARLY I DID.
UH, F P Z D IS JUST TOO LIMITING.
IT LIMITS HEIGHT TO FOUR STORIES.
IT, UH, LIMITS THE, THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED.
UM, WE NEED TO GO OVER FOUR STORIES AND, AND EVEN A VARIANCE DOESN'T ALLOW US TO GO TO THE HEIGHT WE NEED.
UM, THIS ZONING DOESN'T ALLOW A HOTEL, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE A HOTEL COMPONENT.
UH, AND IT'S JUST A VERY CONFUSING, NOT PRACTICAL ZONING DISTRICT.
THE DEAN ALLOWS THE USES, ALLOWS REDEVELOPMENT, AND STILL HAS A GREAT LEVEL OF RULES AND REGULATION.
SO, THANK YOU TAKING SO MUCH TIME.
UM, IS THERE PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE IS NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS CASE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE.
UM, I DO HAVE JUST A FEW QUESTIONS, UM, FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, HAVE YOU GUYS LOOKED INTO HOW MANY VARIANCES, UH, YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO, UM, DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY? I UNDERSTAND WITH RESPECT TO THE HEIGHT THAT THAT MAY BE, UM, AN ISSUE, BUT OTHERWISE, UM, WHAT ALL, HOW MANY VARIANCES ARE WE LOOKING AT? YEAH, GREAT QUESTION.
AND, AND ONCE WE GET EVEN FURTHER INTO PLANNING, I, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'D PROBABLY BE CLOSE TO 10 VARIANCES.
I MEAN, IT'S A KIND OF AN ABSURD NUMBER.
THE, THE PRIMARY ONE, AND, AND YOU MENTIONED IT JUST NOW, UH, IS THE HEIGHT.
UM, AND, AND SO YOU'RE LIMITED TO FOUR STORIES, OBVIOUSLY COULD GET A VARIANCE TO INCREASE HEIGHT, UH, BUT THE F B V D PROVISIONS, UH, LIMIT WHAT YOU CAN REQUEST FOR VARIANCE BASICALLY TO, TO 10%.
UM, AND, AND EVEN WITHOUT THAT LIMITATION, THE STANDARD BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, UH, RULES AND, AND POLICIES ARE THAT YOU CAN'T GET, UH, GREATER THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT VARIANCE.
SO EVEN WITHOUT THE F B Z D LIMITATIONS, AND WE COULD GO UP TO GET A VARIANCE IF THEY APPROVED IT TO EIGHT STORIES, UM, BUT COULDN'T GO FURTHER THAN THAT WITHOUT A REZONING.
SO, LONG, LONG ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
UM, AT THIS STAGE IN PLANNING, WE'RE,
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WE'RE PROBABLY LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FOUR CONFIRMED VARIANCES.I THINK ONCE WE GET FURTHER ALONG IT, IT'D BE MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT.
AND HOW MANY STORIES WERE YOU PLANNING THIS PROJECT TO BE? UH, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A, A MINIMUM OF, UH, 12 STORIES HERE.
AND THEN, UM, ARE YOU PLANNING, UH, PARKING FOR THIS? BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, SOME USES THAT, THAT MIGHT BE, UM, THAT MIGHT NEED THAT PARKING.
UM, AND I KNOW DOWNTOWN DOESN'T HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU PLANNING? IS THERE STRUCTURED PARKING? UM, HOW ARE YOU PLANNING ON MANAGING THAT? UH, YES.
I STRUCTURED PARKING, UM, POTENTIALLY, UH, SUBTERRANEAN PARKING, BUT, UM, THERE WILL BE AT LEAST SEVERAL FLOORS OF PARKING.
AND THE WAY THE BUILDING'S DESIGNED NOW, UH, HAS PARKING IN THE MIDDLE AND ON THE FIRST FEW FLOORS, RETAIL AND OFFICE KIND OF WRAPPED AROUND IT.
SO STRUCTURED PARKING THAT'S HIDDEN FROM VIEW.
UM, BUT, UH, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE ZONING REGULATIONS OUTSTANDING, UH, NEEDS TO HAVE PARKING AND, AND WILL PROVIDE ENOUGH PARKING FOR ALL THOSE VARIOUS USES.
UM, ONCE AGAIN, LEMME ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
STRUCTURED PARKING WILL BE, UH, IN PARKING MATCHING UP TO, YOU KNOW, THE CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE APPLY OUTSIDE OF THE D DISTRICT.
UM, AND THEN ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE WITHIN THAT KIND OF IMMEDIATE VICINITY? I KNOW I'VE KIND OF DRIVEN THAT AREA BEFORE AND I I DON'T REMEMBER SEEING LIKE, HOMES ACROSS THE STREET OR, OR KIND OF IN THE VERY IMMEDIATE VICINITY.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY? UH, I, I, I AM AND GOOD QUESTION.
IT IS KIND OF A UNIQUE AREA IN, IN FACT, WE HAVE A, AN ABUTTING PROPERTY RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER OF, UM, OF BROOKLYN AND AVENUE E UH, THAT, THAT I ALWAYS THOUGHT WAS A, AN OFFICE WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY A, A COUPLE, UH, LIVES THERE.
UM, AND, AND AS A SIDE NOTE, THEY'VE SPOKEN TO THEM, THEY'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST.
BUT, UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A RANDOM MIX OF SMALLER RESIDENTIAL, WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, A, A KIND OF LIVE WORK UNIT, UH, THAT'S OWNER OCCUPIED.
UH, THERE'S SOME SHORT TERM RENTALS, UH, A FEW BLOCKS TO THE NORTH, THE SOUTH.
BUT THEN REALLY ALL THE, YOU KNOW, LARGER RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS ARE, ARE COMING UP ON BROADWAY.
AND, UH, THIS WOULD BE A, A GREAT SPOT FOR SOME, SOME MORE RESIDENTIAL AT A HIGHER DENSITY.
UM, SO YET, YET, AGAIN, ANOTHER LONG ANSWER TO YOUR, TO YOUR QUESTION, THE, THE SHORT ANSWER IS THERE IS, UH, QUITE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, IN AND AROUND THIS PROPERTY, BUT, UM, THAT THE AREA CERTAINLY NEEDS MORE.
UM, THE, MY RUNNING QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE FOR STAFF.
UM, UH, SO ARE Y'ALL AWARE OF HOW MANY PROPERTIES IN THE FORM-BASED ZONING DISTRICT HAVE REQUESTED SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS? I KNOW THERE'S QUITE A FEW, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, KIND OF LIKE THE BROADWAY JONES AREA RIGHT AROUND THE SAN ANTONIO MUSEUM OF ART, UM, KIND OF MID-RISE TO HIGHER RISE, UM, PROJECTS.
WERE THOSE ALL, UH, DID THOSE ALL REQUIRE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS OR VARIANCES? UH, SO SINCE I STARTED MANAGING THE B O A PROCESS BACK IN 2013, I WANNA SAY WHAT COMES TO MIND IS MAYBE ABOUT FIVE OR LESS.
UM, THERE, ONE I REMEMBER IS CASE AT 12 BUILDING, UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF, UM, PARKING, UH, WAIVERS, UH, ON SOME OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, THERE WAS, UH, A, ANOTHER ONE I THINK THAT JUST HAD, UM, SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS TO SOME OF THE, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT I WANNA SAY IT'S NOT THAT MANY IN THE LAST SIX, SEVEN YEARS.
UM, AND THEN JUST TO CLARIFY, THE D ZONING WILL TRIGGER THE INVOLVEMENT OF H D R C, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONERS? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? THANK YOU.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR STAFF, AND I WAS SORT OF INVOLVED IN THIS WHEN I WAS IN PLANNING COMMISSION, AND I, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN REALLY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH FORM-BASED ZONING GENERALLY, UM, BUT ESPECIALLY WHEN
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IT'S SORT OF FLOPPED DOWN, UM, IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF AN AREA LIKE THIS, IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE, BUT THERE WAS SO MUCH ZEAL FOR THIS BACK IN THE DAY, YOU, UH, IN THE ACADEMY, IT WAS LIKE, YOU COULDN'T SAY ANYTHING AGAINST NEW URBANISM.SO, BUT I WANTED TO ASK STAFF BECAUSE I, I GET THEIR ARGUMENT THAT YOU CAN'T JUST DISRUPT IT BECAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT FROM ONE PERSPECTIVE, THAT WOULD BE REALLY BAD.
BUT I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW THIS REALLY HASN'T, UM, GOTTEN THE JUMPSTART OF DEVELOPMENT LIKE SOME OTHER SURROUNDING AREAS.
SO I WANNA ASK STAFF, UH, 10 YEARS IN, WHAT HAS THE FORM-BASED ZONING REALLY, REALLY GOTTEN US HERE? WHAT DO YOU THINK IT'S REALLY ACHIEVED? WELL, I MEAN, THE HIGHLY SPECULATIVE, I THINK YOU CAN SEE IT IN CERTAIN PARTS OF THE AREA, BUT IT DOES COVER A SPAN OF MANY, MANY BLOCKS.
AND SO WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE FORM-BASED CODE.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE FORM-BASED CODE, BUT NOW WE HAVE THE, UH, THE ESSAY TOMORROW PLAN AND THE DOWNTOWN AREA REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.
SO WE WANNA TRY TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THOSE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES, WHICH ALL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE FORM-BASED CODE.
THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.
COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, I, I'M, I'M PRETTY CONFUSED ABOUT THIS FORM-BASED ZONING DISTRICT.
CAN, CAN YOU AT LEAST GIMME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE THE BRIEF DESCRIPTION WAS JUST NOT HELPFUL.
ARE THERE EXAMPLES AROUND SAN ANTONIO? YES, MA'AM.
COMMISSIONER JONES, WE'RE GONNA PULL UP A GOOGLE MAP OF AN AREA TO SHOW YOU, BUT BASICALLY IT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH FORM AND DESIGN.
SO YOU WANNA CREATE A VERY SPECIFIC LOOK IN AN AREA, CERTAIN ARCHES, CERTAIN WINDOWS, CERTAIN DESIGN, AND THAT'S WHAT THE FORM-BASED CODE DOES.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE MICHAEL PULLED UP A SECTION OFF OF BROADWAY.
DOES THAT HELP COMMISSIONER JONES? YES, IT SURE DOES.
THAT'S A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF WHAT I WAS NEEDING BECAUSE MY QUESTIONS, THIS ONE IS TO ME A LITTLE DIFFICULT.
SO IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IN SOME OF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOING DOWN BROADWAY, DON'T THEY HAVE SOME MIXED USE? DON'T THEY HAVE SOME RETAIL OR OFFICE SPACE AND THEN IT'S RESIDENTIAL KIND OF LIVING? YES.
AND SO FORM BASED DOES ALLOW A LOT OF DIFFERENT MIXES OF USES.
THERE'S A, A VERY COMPREHENSIVE TABLE, AND IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHICH TRANSECT IN, BUT IT DOES ALLOW FOR, UH, MANY MIXED USES.
BUT WITH REGARD TO THE APPLICANT'S SECTION OR ALPHABET THAT'S ASSIGNED TO THEM, UM, WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO, OTHER THAN THE HEIGHT, I UNDERSTAND THEY WANT 13 STORIES, AND I'M LOOKING AT FOUR HERE, WHICH I GET IS THE LIMIT.
BUT WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT, WHAT THEY SEEM TO INDICATE THEY WANT WITH MIXED USE WITH PARKING RESIDENTIAL OFFICE SPACE? WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE HOTEL, THEY COULD SQUEEZE IN RESIDENTIAL JUST FOR STORIES IN THAT PARTICULAR SECTOR THAT THEY'RE IN.
UH, THE MAIN CONCERN WAS THE, FOR THEM WAS THE HEIGHT, BUT YES, THE MIX OF USES WOULD BE PERMITTED.
SO IT'S REALLY, WE'RE BOILING IT DOWN TO THEY COULD ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING ALONG WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE, BUT THEY JUST COULDN'T GO TO 12 STORIES.
THEY, THEY'RE LIMITED TO POSSIBLY EIGHT IF THEY GO AND GET, I GUESS I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE YOU SAID THEY'RE GONNA BE A LOT OF VARIANCES AND I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY.
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THEY CAN GET, IT SEEMS LIKE THE USES THAT THEY'RE DESCRIBING.AGAIN, THE, THE, THE HEIGHT IS LIMITING THEM AND, AND SOME DENSITY IS BEING LIMITED AS WELL.
OH, WHAT'S THE DENSITY CAPACITY ON ON THIS? WELL, IT, IT, IT GOES HAND IN HAND.
SO IT'S A LACK OF DENSITY DUE TO THE LACK OF HEIGHT.
ALRIGHT, THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
FOR, FOR THE, UM, APPLICANT, YOU MENTIONED THAT THE D DESIGNATION WOULD REQUIRE OR MANDATE THAT THE H D R C AND O H P GET INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TWO HISTORIC STRUCTURES, CORRECT? THAT THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY, THEY GET TWO BITES OF THE APPLE AT LEAST.
AND SO, AND, AND OF COURSE BECAUSE THEY'RE HISTORIC, YOU, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO WORK WITH THOSE IN SOME WAY.
AND, AND WE ACTUALLY, OUR CLIENT WENT THROUGH, UM, AND HAD A HISTORIC ASSESSMENT, UH, DONE WITH O H P, UH, ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.
SO, SO THERE'S BEEN A PRETTY THOROUGH REVIEW AND, UH, YEAH, THOSE, THOSE BUILDINGS WILL BE INCORPORATED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HISTORIC DESIGNATION KINDA HONORED THERE.
UH, AND THEN IF, IF REZONING CURRENTLY IS APPROVED, WE'LL BE SUBJECT TO THOSE DOWNTOWN DESIGN GUIDELINES, WHICH, WHICH IS THROUGH HP H T R C AS WELL.
UH, FOR STAFF, ONE THING I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT, I DIDN'T HAVE CH A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH FROM MY PRINTER, 117 PAGES OF THE FORM-BASED ZONING REGULATIONS, UM, IS ONE, WHAT IS A TRANSECT, AND TWO, FROM MY READING, THERE APPEARS TO BE TRANSECTS ONE THROUGH SIX.
GENERALLY, WHAT ARE THE DISTINCTIONS BETWEEN THOSE DIFFERENT TRANSECTS? SO IT'S A TWO PART QUESTION FOR STAFF.
WELL, THINK ABOUT IT AS LIKE COMPARTMENTALIZING, RIGHT? SO DIFFERENT TRANSECTS ARE GOING TO ENCOMPASS THE CERTAIN AREAS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT THE T 4, 5, 6, THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO THEN THE SECOND QUESTION BECOMES, OKAY, HOW DO THEY DIFFERENTIATE FROM EACH OTHER? LIKE SAY, I ASSUME IT'S A SPECTRUM.
SO LET'S START WITH TRANSECT ONE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR,
AND THE NUMBER DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN A CERTAIN, LIKE INTENSITY.
SO ONE DOESN'T MEAN HIGHER OR SIX DOESN'T MEAN HIGHER.
I, I THINK THIS IS REALLY AT THIS POINT EVOLVING INTO MY GENERAL EDIFICATION.
SO I MIGHT WANT SOME MORE INFORMATION IF WE SEE THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
BUT I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR RIGHT NOW, MADAM CHAIR.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER BUSANTE.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I, OKAY.
UM, BEFORE I START, I JUST WANTED TO SAY I APPRECIATE, UH, COMMISSIONER ROMERO'S QUESTION, UM, GREATLY, UM, HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF EXPERIENCE WITH FORM-BASED ZONING FROM A DEVELOPER STANDPOINT.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU I KNOW OF AT LEAST THREE PROJECTS THAT, UM, HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN THIS AREA THAT HAVE NEEDED MULTIPLE, UM, SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS AND VARIANCES AND HAVE BEEN, UM, HAVE MADE DEVELOPING IN THIS AREA MORE EXPENSIVE AND VERY DIFFICULT.
UM, SO I, I WOULD, UM, MY ASSESSMENT WOULD BE THAT IT, THAT THIS ZONING HAS, UM, ACTUALLY DISINCENTIVIZED THE, THE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA JUST BASED ON MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, UM, I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM NUMBER NINE.
UM, I THINK DESPITE THE WELL INTENTIONED, UM, UH, IDEAS BEHIND FORM-BASED ZONING, UM, AND WHAT'S BEEN CITED BY STAFF, UM, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, UM, I BELIEVE A CHANGE TO D IS APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TRACT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN REGIONAL CENTER.
IT'S IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT.
UM, IT'S DESIGNATED REGIONAL MIXED USE, WHICH
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IS, UM, YOU KNOW, HIGH DENSITY, HIGH INTENSITY, UM, UH, FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION.UM, SO I THINK THAT LIMITING THE DENSITY BY LIMITING THE HEIGHT IN THIS CASE TO FOUR STORIES IS INAPPROPRIATE.
THIS PROPERTY IS ABOUT HALF A BLOCK FROM, UH, 2 81 AND 37.
IT'S ABOUT ONE BLOCK, ONE AND A HALF BLOCKS AWAY FROM OTHER D ZONED PROPERTIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN IS ENCOURAGED TO BE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, UM, AND IT'S MOVING TOWARDS MAKING THIS PARTICULAR AREA MORE OF A COMPLETE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THIS WAS THE, THE MADISON, UM, PARK AREA THAT, UH, WAS IDENTIFIED AS, UM, KIND OF A TARGET AREA IN THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.
SO ALLOWING FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT CAN PROVIDE PARKING, THAT CAN PROVIDE SOME DENSITY AND INTENSITY AND USES AND KIND OF START TO REVITALIZE THIS AREA, I THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
UM, I THINK ALSO THE FACT THAT THE, UM, D DESIGN GUIDELINES WILL BE IMPOSED ON THIS PROPERTY, AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TWO HISTORIC STRUCTURES GIVES, UM, THE CITY PLENTY OF TIME AND PLENTY OF INPUT THROUGH O H P AND H D R C TO HELP, UH, GUIDE THE DESIGN PROCESS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS APPROPRIATE AND THAT IT DOES, UM, THAT IT DOES KIND OF ACCOMPLISH THE, SOME OF THE GOALS, UM, OF THAT AREA.
UM, I ALSO THINK, UM, THE FACT THAT THIS IS AN URBAN CORE AREA, UH, IS REALLY IMPORTANT, UM, IN THAT THE, THE FORM-BASED ZONING TRANSECT, IF YOU'LL REMEMBER AFTER COMMISSIONER SANTE ASKED THE QUESTION, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHAT DO THE TRANSECTS MEAN? YOU SAW THIS AS TRANSECT FOUR.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT EVEN A VERY, UM, KIND OF HIGH, IT WAS WHEN THE FORM-BASED ZONING WAS, WAS ORIGINALLY, UM, PLACED ON, ON THESE PROPERTIES.
THEY DIDN'T EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE FACT THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY AN URBAN CORE AND THAT IT IS THAT THE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION IS THE MOST INTENSE FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION THAT WE HAVE.
SO THIS, TO ME, AT THE VERY LEAST, SHOULD HAVE BEEN MAYBE A FORM-BASED ZONING, T SIX I, I JUST, I TEND TO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND THAT TRYING TO KIND OF PLOP THIS DOWN ON TOP OF EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE AND EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PROBABLY HAS NOT HAD THE EFFECT THAT IT WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO HAVE.
UM, SO THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THAT ALLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN THROUGH THE D DOWNTOWN ZONING DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE.
WE HAVE AN, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER WHITE.
ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER ROMERO? UM, THANK YOU.
UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER GREATHOUSE AND I WILL DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS, EVEN THOUGH, AND I'M NOT KIDDING, IT REALLY ANNOYS ME WHEN APPLICANTS GO OVER THE TIME LIMIT BECAUSE WE STICK TO OUR TIME LIMITS AND EVERYBODY SHOULD STICK TO THEIR TIME LIMITS.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN PRACTICE THIS AHEAD OF TIME.
UM, BUT YEAH, I REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, AND I, I DON'T MEAN THIS AS A KNOCK AGAINST STAFF, BUT STAFF IS NOT ABLE TO DEFEND THIS, AND I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE TO DEFEND IT.
THEY WEREN'T HERE, THEY WEREN'T THE PEOPLE WHO PUT THIS IN PLACE.
AND I THINK THE FACT THAT IT'S JUST SORT OF BEEN THERE AND, UM, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT STAFF CAN JUST REALLY EXPLAIN TO US.
IT SHOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THIS IS, UM, PAST ITS TIME.
SO I, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH MAKING THIS THIS CHANGE WITH THIS ONE.
I, I'LL TELL YOU TWO THINGS THAT REALLY MADE THE DIFFERENCE FOR ME, UM, WAS IN RESPONSE TO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, FORGIVE ME, I DON'T RECALL WHO ASKED IT, BUT STAFF RESPONDED THAT A BIG ASPECT OF THE FOREIGN BASED ZONING WERE THESE DESIGN ELEMENTS.
UM, AND IN THIS CASE, IN LIGHT OF THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES, IN LIGHT OF THE H DRCS D REVIEW, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S REALLY NOT A GOOD REASON, UH, TO PRO TO PREVENT THIS CHANGE IN ZONING BECAUSE THE GOALS TO BE ATTAINED WOULD SEEM TO BE ABLE TO BE A ATTAINED BY THIS REZONING BY THE REVIEW FROM H D R C.
AND, AND THE SECOND ASPECT IS SIMPLY AS SOMEONE WHO DRIVES THROUGH THIS AREA FAIRLY FREQUENTLY, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S REALLY NOT GETTING THE SAME KIND OF DEVELOPMENT, UH, THAT SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS ARE.
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ACROSS 37, UH, AND SEE THE D PEOPLE ARE PITCHING THAT BECAUSE OF THE FLEXIBILITY IT ALLOWS FOR DEVELOPMENT.AND SO, UH, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
I THINK, UH, THE PREVIOUS COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE SPOKE ACTUALLY HAVE SAID THE EXACT REASONS WHY I WILL ALSO BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AS, AS COMMISSIONER BUSTAMANTE JUST FINISH SAYING THE, UH, THE FACT THAT H G R C AND O H P WILL BE INVOLVED WITH THIS DESIGNATION, UM, UH, GIVES ME A, A GREAT DEAL OF COMFORT.
AND, UM, I HAVE NOT, YOU KNOW, I, I, THIS AREA, UM, DOESN'T APPEAR THAT IT HAS CHANGED SINCE MY KIDS WERE IN PRESCHOOL IN OVER HERE, AND THAT'S BEEN 10 YEARS.
SO IT, IT, IT, IT'S, I, I THINK, UH, UH, SOMETHING TO, UH, TO CONSIDER, TO, TO CHANGE THIS, TO ALLOW FOR, UM, DEVELOPMENT IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY SINCE, UH, UH, H C R C WILL LOOK AT IT IS A, IS A GOOD THING.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SIPES.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL? UM, WELL FIRST TO, TO STAND WITH STAFF AND SAY THEY ARE HERE TO HELP AND ENFORCE THE POLICIES THAT WERE PUT INTO PLACE WITH PRIOR COUNCILS AND ZONING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT DISTRICT ONE LEADER, MAYBE LOOK AT THIS ONE JUST LIKE HE DID, UM, MONTE VISTA AND OTHER AREAS IN DISTRICT ONE FOR THESE AREAS IN PARTICULAR LIKE THIS, THAT IT'S JUST VERY DIFFICULT FOR DEVELOPERS TO TAKE A, A LOOK AT THIS AND, AND MEET THE NUMBERS THAT THEY NEED.
UM, I, I AM AT LEAST SATISFIED THAT THE D DESIGNATION WILL BRING IN SOME REQUIREMENTS.
UM, STILL NOT CLEAR WHAT ALL THE VARIANCES ARE THAT ARE MENTIONED HERE, BECAUSE I ASKED THAT QUESTION AND IT SEEMS LIKE THEY COULD HAVE PRETTY MUCH WHAT IS ALREADY BEING GIVEN DOWN BROADWAY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT HEIGHT.
AND I AGREE THAT THAT HEIGHT MAY BE RESTRICTION IS, UH, NOT CALLED FOR IN THIS LOCATION IN TODAY'S TIME, BUT 10, 12 YEARS AGO WHEN THIS WAS PUT INTO PLACE, I THINK WE ALL WERE THINKING A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY BACK THEN.
AND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE FIND OURSELVES THERE TODAY, DOESN'T MAKE IT THE BEST CHOICE FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD.
UM, BUT THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
I'D JUST LIKE TO GET THAT OUT THERE THAT PERHAPS, UH, THE DISTRICT ONE LEADER MIGHT WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND, AND SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING HE WANTS TO DO, UH, WITH THE REZONING PURPOSE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.
[10. 20-6085 ZONING CASE Z-2020-10700214 (Council District 8)]
ITEM NUMBER 10 IS A REQUEST TO REZONE FROM C TWO AND C THREE TO MS 33.ALL OVERLAYS REMAINING THE SAME.
GENERALLY LOCATED IN THE 5,800 BLOCK OF U T S A BOULEVARD.
THERE WERE 13 NOTICES SENT OUT.
WE RECEIVED ZERO IN SUPPORT, ZERO IN OPPOSITION, AND THERE WAS NO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE CURRENT C TWO COMMERCIAL DISTRICT AND C THREE GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT ARE APPROPRIATE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED MS 33 IS ALSO FITTING ZONING FOR THIS PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREA.
THE PROPOSED MS 33 ZONING WILL ALLOW DEVELOPMENT OF ADDITIONAL HOUSING OPTIONS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SAN ANTONIO, THE SECURITY SERVICE CAMPUS BUSINESS PARK, AND SURROUNDING AREA STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL.
MAY WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PLEASE? ASHLEY, ARE YOU ON THE LINE?
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YES, I'M HERE.IT'S ASHLEY FAIRMAN AGAIN WITH KILLING GRIFFIN AND FAIRMAN.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS CASE.
UH, THE PURPOSE I THINK OF, OF HAVING IT ON INDIVIDUAL TODAY IS WE ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT.
UM, IF WE COULD GO AHEAD AND JUMP TO SLIDE TWO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
SO, UM, THIS TRACK HERE, IT'S 5.8 ACRES LOCATED AT UEX, WHICH RUNS EAST TO WEST.
UM, AND THEN ALSO U T S A BOULEVARD.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE I 10 TO THE EAST, UH, AND SECURITY SERVICE CAMPUS TO THE NORTH.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER ROMERO AND WE WERE REQUESTING AN MF 33, BUT TODAY I'D LIKE TO FORMALLY AMEND THAT TO AN MF 25.
UM, SO THAT SHOULD CAP THE DENSITY AT THE SITE AT ABOUT 145 UNITS.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO NEED TO NOTE FOR THE RECORD IS THAT BY AMENDING TO MF 25, WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO, UM, AMEND THE U T S A REGIONAL CENTER PLAN.
SO, UH, AFTER ZONING COMMISSION TODAY, WE WILL SUBMIT A REQUEST TO CHANGE THE PLAN TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THAT MF 25 ZONING REQUEST.
UM, IF WE COULD, LET'S SKIP ACTUALLY TO SLIDE FIVE, THE SITE PLAN.
UH, SO I DID JUST WANNA SHOW THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN QUICKLY SO YOU ALL COULD TAKE A LOOK.
UH, THERE WILL BE A, A TRADITIONAL MULTIFAMILY TYPE BUILDING ON THE SITE, AND THEN ALSO THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY WILL BE, UM, DEVELOPED AS TOWN HOMES.
AND THEN ALSO THE ONLY ACCESS ONTO THE PROPERTY WILL BE FROM UEX.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST A, A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF THE REQUEST, BUT, BUT PLEASE ALSO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT TO THE MF 25.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU, MS. FARMAN, UM, STAFF, IS THERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR THIS CASE.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER ROMERO, I ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, SO I'LL JUST LEAVE THAT TO THE OTHERS.
UH, SEEING NO QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER ROMERO.
UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE ASHLEY WORKING WITH US ON THIS.
UM, I THINK, AND DISTRICT EIGHT THINKS TOO THAT IT JUST WOULD MAKE A LOT MORE SENSE, UH, TO GET THIS DOWN TO AN MF 25.
UH, WE NOT SAYING WE DON'T NEED APARTMENTS IN DISTRICT EIGHT AND IN THIS AREA, IT'S JUST THAT WE'RE GETTING SO MANY IN AND WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE DENSITY DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, UM, SO WE CAN ALLEVIATE THE TRAFFIC ISSUES AND JUST THE GENERAL CONGESTION ISSUES.
UM, SO I AM GOING TO MOVE FOR APPROVAL FOR THE AMENDED REQUEST FOR MF 25 IN CASE NUMBER 10.
AND I DO REALIZE THAT IT'S GONNA PUT ASHLEY TO SOME TROUBLE WITH HAVING TO GET A, TO GET A PLAN AMENDMENT.
AND AGAIN, I I REALLY APPRECIATE, UH, ASHLEY AND HER CLIENT BEING WILLING TO DO THAT.
SO I, I, I MOVE APPROVAL FOR THE ALTERNATE REQUEST OF MS 25.
WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER ROMERO, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
AND THANK YOU FOR LEANING INTO THAT
[Items 11 & 12]
HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES.UM, WE HAVE THE MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 15TH AND OCTOBER 6TH.
UM, C N O CORRECTIONS, UM, I HAVE A MOTION, PLEASE, MADAM CHAIR.
I MOVE FOR APPROVAL OF THE SEPTEMBER 15TH, 2020 MEETING MINUTES AND THE OCTOBER 6TH, 2020 MEETING.
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YOU.WE HAVE A, A MOTION FOR APPROVAL BY COMMISSIONER BUSANTE WITH THE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER JONES.
THE MINUTES FOR SEPTEMBER 15TH AND OCTOBER 6TH PASSED BY A VOTE OF 11.
IS THERE AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR'S REPORT? NOTHING FOR TODAY.
WELL, I GUESS WE'RE INVESTING TIME IN THE BANK FOR OUR NEXT MEETING.
I HEREBY CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURNED AT 2:21 PM THE BLIZZARD WILL COMMENCE NOW.