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GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANKS EVERYONE FOR JOINING US TODAY.

UH, MME. CLARK, WILL YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL? YES, MA'AM.

COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN.

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER .

HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE.

AND CHAIRWOMAN CAB HDA.

HERE.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU MADAM CLERK.

[1. 20-6200 Approval of the minutes from the Public Safety Committee meeting on September 11, 2020 ]

THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR, ON OUR AGENDA IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM OUR SEPTEMBER 11TH MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? AND SECOND FOR APPROVAL TO APPROVE SECOND .

THANK YOU.

UM, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

A MOTION PASSES AND MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED.

NEXT ITEM IN OUR AGENDA IS A BRIEFING ON THE S AD'S TRAINING CURRICULUM FOR CADETS AND POLICE OFFICERS.

UH, I'M SORRY, JUST REAL QUICKLY, I WANNA NOTE THAT THERE WERE NOT ANY, UH, PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY.

SO,

[2. 20-6198 Briefing on the San Antonio Police Department training curriculum for cadets and police officers [Maria Villagomez, Deputy City Manager; William P. McManus, Chief of Police]]

UM, ITEM TWO IS THE, UH, BRIEFING ON SAP'S TRAINING CURRICULUM FOR CADETS AND POLICE OFFICERS.

CHIEF.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.

I'M MARIA VGO, MISS DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, AND, UH, THE CHIEF IS GONNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE TRAINING PROVIDED BY THE SAN ANTONIO POLICE DEPARTMENT TO THE CADETS BEFORE THEY BECOME POLICE OFFICERS WITHIN OUR DEPARTMENT, AS WELL AS TO THE ANNUAL TRAINING THAT IS RECEIVED BY EVERY POLICE OFFICER WITHIN S A P D.

AND FINALLY, HE'S ALSO GOING TO COVER ABOUT A PROMOTIONAL TRAINING THAT IS PROVIDED TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT PROMOTE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND OFFICER WELLNESS PROGRAMS THAT ARE OFF, THAT ARE OFFERED TO OUR POLICE OFFICERS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

SO, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UH, CHIEF MCMANUS.

CHIEF, YOU MIGHT BE MUTED.

CHIEF? YEAH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

YOU HEAR ME? OKAY, GREAT.

VERY GOOD.

WELL, UH, THANKS FOR COMING TO THE ACADEMY.

WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU HERE TODAY.

AND, UH, ONCE THIS, UH, PRESENTATION IS DONE, ONCE ALL THE PRESENTATIONS ARE DONE, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LITTLE FUN, UH, OUTSIDE ON THE, UH, ACADEMY GROUNDS, UH, DOING A FEW EXERCISES THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT PREPARED FOR YOU.

AND ANYONE THAT WANTS TO, UH, GO ON THE RANGE AND FIRE SOME ROUNDS DOWN THE RANGE, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT TOO.

SO LET ME START WITH THE FIRST, UH, MY FIRST PRESENTATION.

UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, LAUREN.

SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THREE AREAS TODAY.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT CADET TRAINING, POLICE OFFICER TRAINING, WHICH IS IN-SERVICE TRAINING, AND THEN OUR OFFICER WELLNESS AND SUPPORT PROGRAM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

BACK IN 2016, UH, WHEN WE WERE REVIEWING THE PRESIDENT'S 21ST CENTURY, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, YEAH, THE PRESIDENT'S 21ST CENTURY POLICE TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATIONS.

UH, WE WERE, UH, INTIMATELY INVOLVED IN THAT AND FOR THE WORK THAT WE DID IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, ON THAT TASK FORCE, WE WERE RECOGNIZED BY D O J, UH, FOR THREE DIFFERENT AREAS IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS, COMMUNITY POLICING, OFFICER TRAINING, AND OFFICER WELLNESS.

AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUALLY REVIEWING AND UPDATING THOSE, UH, THOSE TRAINING, UH, CURRICULUMS, CURRICULA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

T COLE OR THE, OR, TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT IS THE, IS THE ENTITY THAT CONTROLS EVERYTHING RELATED TO TRAINING.

UH, FOR EVERY POLICE DEPARTMENT IN TEXAS, UH, THEY REQUIRE 696 HOURS OF TRAINING BEFORE YOU ARE, YOU ARE ABLE TO BE LICENSED AS A PEACE OFFICER.

UH, EACH AGENCY MUST MAINTAIN AN 80% PASS RATE ON YOUR LICENSING EXAM ATTEMPTS.

UH, THERE IS NO MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR FIELD OFFICER TRAINING, ALTHOUGH THERE IS, UH, THEY, THEY DO PLACE TRAINING ON, UH, TRAINING MINIMUMS IN OTHER AREAS.

AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT OUR FIELD OFFICER TRAINING PROGRAM, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE ON THE JOB TRAINING THAT THOSE OFFICERS GET, UH, ONCE THEY GRADUATE FROM THE ACADEMY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

LAUREN.

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S A P D PUTS CADETS THROUGH A 37 WEEK PROGRAM, WHICH AMOUNTS TO 1,337 TRAINING HOURS.

OUR AVERAGE, UH, UM, PASS RATE FOR THE, FOR THE T COLE TEST IS 94.7.

UM, AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A 14 WEEK FIELD TRAINING OFFICER PROGRAM, AND, UH, KIND OF SKIPPED A BULLET HERE, BUT IT SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE CAME SECOND.

BUT IN THAT TRAIN, IN THAT 37 WEEK TRAINING CURRICULUM, WE GET PRESENTATIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY, UH, ORGANIZATIONS AND ADVOCACY GROUPS, UH, N A A C P, UH, RAPE CRISIS CENTER, UH, L LGBTQ PLUS, UH, ALL SPEAK TO US AT OUR, UH, CADET TRAINING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, THIS GIVES YOU KIND OF AN INDICATION OF WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THEIR TRAINING HOURS.

WE ARE ONLY SURPASSED BY DALLAS, AND THEN AUSTIN IS BRINGING UP THE REAR WITH ONLY 856 HOURS OF TRAINING.

UH, WE'VE LISTED HERE ALL OF THE, UH, THE LARGEST CITIES IN TEXAS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, LAUREN.

SO THESE ARE THE FOUR, THE, THE FOCUS AREAS.

AND WE, WE'VE ESTIMATED THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING HOURS THAT WE SPEND IN EACH ONE OF THESE AREAS, UH, AS COMPARED TO THE TRAINING HOURS THAT ARE MANDATED BY T COLE.

SO LAWS AND INVESTIGATIONS TO GET THE, GET THE, UH, THE MOST HOURS, 391 SKILLS, POLICE ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC INTERACTION, FORCE OPTIONS, OFFICER WELLNESS, AND THEN THE FIELD RIDES AND ALL OF THAT, AGAIN, MOUNTS UP TO 337 HOURS.

AND AS, AS I TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE EARLIER, UH, T COLE DOES NOT PUT ANY, UH, NUMBER OF HOURS ON FIELD RIDES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, SOME OF, SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL COURSES WITHIN THE CATEGORIES THAT, THAT I'VE MENTIONED ARE UNDER LAWS AND INVESTIGATIONS.

WE LOOK AT PENAL CODE, WE LOOK AT THE CODE OF CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, UH, ARREST, SEARCH, AND SEIZURE, AND THE TRAFFIC CODE.

ALL OF THOSE ARE LAWS AND INVESTIGATIONS THAT THE CADETS WILL BE INVOLVED IN WHEN THEY HIT THE STREETS.

FROM ON THE SKILL SIDE, WE LOOK AT FIREARMS, ARREST AND CONTROL, PROFESSIONAL POLICE DRIVING CONTROL SKILLS AND TRAFFIC STOPS.

AND THEN UNDER ADMINISTRATION AND POLICY, WE TALK ABOUT TCO RULES, BODY-WORN CAMERA, UH, NOTIFICATIONS WHEN, WHEN A FOREIGN NATIONAL IS ARRESTED.

UH, RADIO COMMUNICATIONS, AND WE TALK ABOUT AMBER AND SILVER ALERTS WHEN SOMEONE'S MISSING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, SUBJECT MATTER TAUGHT WITHIN THE LISTED CATEGORIES BELOW INCLUDE PROFESSIONALISM AND ETHICS, WHICH COMES UNDER PUBLIC INTERACTION, UH, CULTURAL DIVERSITY, DEESCALATION STRATEGIES, AND, AND THOSE STRATEGIES.

UH, UH, INCULCATE JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, OUR INTERACTION WITH PEOPLE ON THE STREET THAT WE MAY HAVE, UH, HAVE TO STOP AT ONE POINT OR ANOTHER.

CRISIS INTERVENTION.

AND THEN IMPLICIT BIAS TRAINING.

UNDER OFFICER WELLNESS, WE'RE LOOKING AT FITNESS, WELLNESS AND STRESS MANAGEMENT, EMERGENCY MEDICAL ASSISTANCE, AND FIRST RESPONDER TRAINING, AND THE SUBJECT MATTER WITHIN, WITHIN THESE CATEGORIES, FORCE OPTIONS, FORCE OPTIONS, THEORY, LESS LETHAL, TASER, UH, BATTEN AND AS AND TACTICAL OPERATOR TRAINING.

AND FOR FIELD RIDE, WE DO PHASE ONE, UH, E EACH FOUR WEEKS, UH, SHIFT TAKES PLACE ON, UH, I MEAN, EACH FOUR WEEKS TAKES PLACE ON A DIFFERENT SHIFT, DAYLIGHT, EVENING.

AND, AND, UM, AT LAST ONE EVENING SHOULD BE MIDNIGHT OR DOG WATCH.

AND THEN PHASE FOUR, WE HAVE TWO WEEKS THAT THEY RIDE AND THEY, THEY, UH, THEY DO THEIR FINAL EVALUATION.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO THAT, THAT COMPLETES THE CADET TRAINING.

LET'S LOOK AT IN-SERVICE TRAINING.

SO THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON LAW ENFORCEMENT REQUIRES 40 HOURS OF TRAINING EVERY TWO YEARS.

WE DOUBLE THAT.

WE DO 40 HOURS OF TRAINING ANNUALLY, AND INDIVIDUAL CURRICULUM, UH, FOR, THERE'S INDIVIDUAL CURRICULUM FOR OFFICERS, AND THERE'S CURRICULUM FOR SUPERVISORS AS WELL.

AND THERE'S NEW CURRICULUM THAT'S DEVELOPED EVERY YEAR, AND THAT CURRICULUM IS DEVELOPED BY THE TRAINING ACADEMY STAFF, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT ARE PREVALENT AT THE TIME.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

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SO, HERE AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MAJOR TEXAS CITIES, UH, SAN ANTONIO TOPS, THE GROUP WITH 80.

HOUSTON IS NEXT WITH 64.

AND THE REST DALLAS, FORT WORTH, CORPUS, AND EL PASO, THEY ADHERE TO THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT OF T COLE, SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE FOCUS ON.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE FOCUS ON, CULTURAL DIVERSITY, DEESCALATION, CIVILIAN INTERACTION, POLICE DRIVING, FIREARMS, WELLNESS, NUTRITION, INTERNAL AFFAIRS THAT YOU SEE THE DIFFERENT NUMBER OF HOURS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO EACH ONE OF THOSE TOPICS.

THE STATE TRAINING HOURS ONLY, UH, REQUIRE EIGHT HOURS CULTURAL DIVERSITY, EIGHT HOURS DEESCALATION, AND TWO HOURS CIVILIAN INTERACTION FOR A TOTAL OF 16.

THE OTHER TWO HOURS ARE LEFT UP TO EACH DEPARTMENT TO DECIDE WHICH ELECTIVE FIELD THEY WANT TO, THEY WANT TO, UH, DEVOTE THE LAST TWO HOURS TO, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO EVERY TIME THERE'S A PROMOTION, THERE IS A TRAINING BLOCK THAT GOES WITH IT.

FOR THE UNIFORM EVIDENCE DETECTIVES, THERE'S 120 HOUR BLOCK, AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE TECHNICAL, UH, FORENSIC, UM, UH, TOPICS THAT THEY HAVE TO GO OVER AND KNOW FOR THEIR JOB.

SERGEANTS GET 40 HOURS, LIEUTENANTS AND CAPTAINS GET 40 HOURS.

AND THEN THE, THEN WE HAVE, UH, NEW THIS YEAR, UH, WE HAVE THE I A C P LE INTERNATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF CHIEFS OF POLICE LEADERSHIP TRAINING AND POLICING.

AND THAT'S AN OPTIONAL, UH, 120 HOUR TRAINING OVER A THREE MONTH PERIOD, BROKEN DOWN INTO A WEEK AT A TIME.

WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, RECENTLY THAT WE WERE GOING TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCY OF OUR TRAINING BY INCLUDING ROLL CALL VIDEOS AND, AND VIRTUAL TRAINING ON THE COMPUTER.

SO YOU SEE THE LIST HERE FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER.

UH, DEESCALATION THE ARROGANCE OF AUTHORITY AND ESCALATED MENTAL HEALTH CALLS, PROCEDURAL JUSTICE AND DUTY TO INTERVENE IN NOVEMBER.

AND THEN IN DECEMBER, CLOSING OUT THE YEAR WITH INTERACTIONS WITH THE LGBTQ PLUS COMMUNITY, AND THEN DEALING WITH SEXUAL ASSAULT VICTIMS. NOW, THESE ARE ONLY THREE TO FIVE MINUTE VIDEOS, UM, WHICH RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING, UH, UH, IN ROLL CALL.

BUT WE WILL TRANSITION TO A COMPUTER TRAINING MODEL AS WE GET THAT WORKED OUT WITH IT.

UH, AND AGAIN, THESE, THESE ARE NOT SO MUCH, THESE ARE NOT LENGTHY TRAINING, UH, VIDEOS, BUT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCY THAT OFFICERS ARE EXPOSED TO THESE TOPICS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

DEESCALATION AGAIN, UH, THE CORE OF OUR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO PROTECT HUMAN LIFE AND PHYSICAL SAFETY, UH, WE USED TO HAVE WHAT WE CALLED A WARRIOR MENTALITY TRAINING FOCUS.

UH, WE CHANGED THAT A FEW YEARS AGO, ADOPTING A GUARDIAN MENTALITY, UH, WITH A FOCUS ON BUILDING TRUST IN THE COMMUNITY.

OUR DEESCALATION CONCEPTS, AS I, AS I ALWAYS SAY, THEY ARE INCORPORATED IN ALL ASPECTS OF OUR CADET TRAINING.

AND THEN LASTLY, OUR IN-SERVICE TRAINING INCLUDES SCENARIO-BASED, UH, MODEL AMO SCENARIO-BASED MODEL, WHICH REINFORCES THE APPLICATION OF THE DEESCALATION TECHNIQUES THAT THEY'RE TAUGHT IN THE CLASSROOM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE STARTED TEACHING CRISIS INTERVENTION BACK IN 2004.

BACK IN 2004.

UH, 24 HOURS OF TRAINING WERE WERE REQUIRED BY T COLE IN 2006.

WE MANDATED THAT EVERY CADET COMPLETE A 40 HOUR COURSE THAT EXCEEDED THE T COLE REQUIREMENT OF 24 HOURS.

AND IT PROVIDES CADETS A, THAT A KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING OF HOW TO INTERACT, UH, WITH PEOPLE THAT THEY MAY, UM, ENCOUNTER ON THE STREETS THAT ARE IN MENTAL CRISIS.

AND IT UTILIZES A, A, AGAIN, REALITY BASED SCENARIOS, WHICH HELPS CADETS BE AT, YOU KNOW, UM, BE IN THAT SAME POSITION THAT THEY WOULD BE ON THE STREET WHEN THEY'RE DEALING WITH THOSE WITH, WITH, WITH THOSE FOLKS WHO ARE IN MENTAL CRISIS.

AND IT, IT GIVES THEM A MUCH MORE REALISTIC ENVIRONMENT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SINCE 1994, UH, THE, THE DEPARTMENT WAS TEACHING MULTICULTURAL MULTICULTURALISM TRAINING.

AND IT'S BEEN OFFERED, IT'S OFFERED TO CADETS AND,

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AND ALL OFFICERS, UH, CADETS CURRENTLY RECEIVE 14 HOURS OF THIS TRAINING THROUGH ROLE PLAYING DEESCALATION SKILLS, UH, REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF CURRENT EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY.

AND THEN AGAIN, THE, UH, INSTRUCTION THAT WE GET FROM N A A C P REPRESENTATIVES WHO COME IN AND, AND TALK TO OUR CADES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OUR TRAINING CURRICULUM ALSO INCLUDES 28 HOURS OF INSTRUCTION RELATED TO FAMILY VIOLENCE.

UH, AND IT'S BROKEN DOWN FOR YOU HERE ON THE NEXT THREE DOT POINTS.

UH, 20 HOURS FAMILY VIOLENCE, FOUR HOURS HUMAN TRAFFICKING, AND FOUR HOURS OF MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN.

THE THESE LESSON PLANS INCLUDE A, A STUDY OF NEUROBIOLOGY OF TRAUMA AND ADVERSE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES, AND THEN INSTRUCTION FROM THE FAMILY JUSTICE CENTER AND THE BATTER, THE BATTER WOMEN'S SHELTER, UH, CONCLUDES THIS TRAINING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WERE RECOGNIZED FOR BY D O J BACK IN 2016 WAS OUR OFFICER WELLNESS AND SUPPORT TRAINING.

UH, WE WERE RECOGNIZED BY I A C P AND D O J AS A NATIONAL MODEL IN 2016.

UH, OUR, WE HAVE A PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES, UH, UNIT THAT WORK WITH INSTRUCTORS TO REINFORCE STRESS MANAGEMENT TRAINING.

UH, WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL, UH, PERFORMANCE RECOVERY OPTIMIZATION, WHICH SEEKS TO OPTIMIZE OFFICER PERFORMANCE ON THE JOB AND AT HOME.

AND THEN LASTLY, OUR OFFICER CONCERN PROGRAM, IF WE HAVE A, A, UH, AN ISSUE WITH AN OFFICER BASED ON A COMPUTER GENERATED, UM, UH, POPUP, UH, BASED ON THE NUMBER, UH, ON A NUMBER OF COMPLAINTS OR ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THE OFFICER MAY, MAY BE, MAY HAVE GOTTEN INVOLVED IN, UH, ON REFERRAL FROM SUPERVISORS, THAT OFFICER, UH, COULD BE PUT IN A, IN THE OFFICER CONCERN PROGRAM.

IT'S A NON-PUNITIVE FORM OF ACTION, UH, MEANT TO ADDRESS THE AREAS OF CONCERN.

AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT AN OFFICER WHO WHO WAS ENTERED INTO THAT PROGRAM IS REQUIRED TO DO, UH, IS, UH, HEAD OVER TO OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES UNIT TO TALK TO ONE OF THE PSYCHOLOGISTS FOR A PROGRAM, UH, THAT IS, WILL, WILL, UH, WILL HOPEFULLY HELP THAT OFFICER ON WHATEVER ISSUES THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEALING WITH.

AND THAT'S THE END OF THAT PRESENTATION.

AND, UM, WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

UH, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND START IN REVERSE ORDER WITH THOSE COUNCIL COMMENTS.

SO WE'LL START WITH COUNCILMAN.

UM, WE CAN PASS, NO, UH, UM, I'M NOT GONNA PASS.

UH, CHIEF, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT COMPREHENSIVE, UH, OUTLOOK ON YOUR TRAINING PROGRAM HERE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY AREAS THAT CAN BE IMPROVED ON LOOKING AT, UM, HOW MANY HOURS YOU'RE SPENDING ON ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT AREAS.

YEAH, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROBABLY ADD HOURS TO EACH ONE OF THOSE, TO EACH ONE OF THOSE SECTIONS.

BUT, UH, WHAT, IN YOUR ESTIMATION ARE WE, ARE WE, UM, I'M NOT, I'M STRUGGLING FOR THE RIGHT WORDS.

ARE WE HITTING THE MARK ON ALL THESE, OR ARE THERE ADJUSTMENTS THAT CAN BE MADE MORE IN SOME AREAS AND LESS IN OTHER AREAS, BUT KEEPING THE SAME TOTAL OF HOURS THAT YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW IN THE DIFFERENT TRAINING PROGRAMS? UH, THANKS FOR THAT QUESTION, COUNCILMAN.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S, THAT, THAT THERE'S, THERE'S MORE HOURS THAT WE COULD PUT ON ANY OF THESE AREAS, MEANING THE, THE CURRICULUM IN EACH OF THESE AREAS IS VERY, VERY THOROUGH.

AND WE HAVE, CAN YOU MUTE THAT? I'M SORRY.

SO, I, THE, I BELIEVE THAT THE NUMBER OF HOURS WE HAVE IS SUFFICIENT IN EACH OF THESE, UH, AREAS.

AND WE HAVE A, A, AN EXCELLENT STAFF OVER HERE.

THEY'RE ALL T COLE CERTIFIED.

UM, I THINK THAT, THAT THE, THE THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS WHAT WE'VE ALREADY PUT IN PLACE, WHICH IS INCREASE FREQUENCY OF THE TRAINING, NOT SO MUCH ADDING, UH, CONTENT TO THE, TO EACH TRAINING, UH, SYLLABUS.

UH, THE, THE, THE TRAINING SYLLABUSES OR SYLLABI ARE, ARE, UM, THEY'RE THOROUGH, THEY'RE COMPREHENSIVE, AND THE INSTRUCTORS THAT TEACH 'EM ARE, ARE VERY, VERY, VERY, UH, EFFICIENT AND VERY GOOD INSTRUCTORS.

SO THE SHORT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS, IS NO COUNCIL MEMBER.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE COULD, I, I THINK THAT THE, THE NUMBER OF HOURS THAT WE HAVE IN EACH OF THESE COURSE AREAS IS,

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IS SUFFICIENT.

UM, AND AS YOU, AS YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE DOUBLE WHAT THE T CALL REQUIREMENT IS.

SO I THINK WE'RE ON THE MARK.

OKAY.

IF YOU TAKE THE INITIAL TRAINING OUT THE ACADEMY AND EVERYTHING LEADING THROUGH THE ACADEMY UP UNTIL GRADUATION, AND THEN FROM THAT POINT ON, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THERE'S, UH, AN ANNUAL TRAINING REQUIREMENT OF 40 HOURS.

AND, UM, I DON'T RECALL, DID YOU, DID YOU SHOW WHAT THAT 40 HOURS IS IN YOUR PRESENTATION? THE ANNUAL TRAINING REQUIREMENT OF ALL 40 OF THOSE HOURS THAT EVERY POLICEMAN HAS TO GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR, I THINK WHAT FLIGHT IS IT? YES.

SO, UH, IN 2019, UH, THIS, THIS, UH, PAST YEAR WE HAD EIGHT HOURS CULTURAL DIVERSITY, EIGHT HOURS DEESCALATION, EIGHT HOURS CIVILIAN INTERACTION, UH, DRIVING FIREARMS, WELLNESS AND NUTRITION, INTERNAL AFFAIRS, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, TECHNICAL, UH, FUSION INVESTIGATIONS.

AND, UH, THE FINAL, UM, THE FINAL TWO HOURS IN THAT, IN-SERVICE TRAINING IS OUR, AN EXAM AND A PRESENTATION FROM THE SS A P O A.

OKAY.

AND, AND THAT'S 40 HOURS EVERY YEAR AT THIS POINT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

IF YOU TAKE THAT 40 HOURS, THAT'S, THAT'S A WEEK'S WORTH OF WORK, RIGHT? UM, UH, OKAY.

THAT LEAVES YOU 50, 51 WEEKS OF AVAILABILITY TO, TO THE, UH, DEPARTMENT.

UH, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IF YOU, IF YOU TAKE THAT 52 WEEKS AND YOU TAKE 40 HOURS OUT HERE, YOU TAKE OFF YOUR, UM, AVERAGE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT PEOPLE TAKE OFF FOR VACATION, YOU KNOW, HOLIDAY LEAVE, THAT KIND OF THING.

WHAT I'M GETTING AT CHIEF IS HOW MANY HOURS OR HOW MANY WEEKS OF PRODUCTIVITY DO WE GET OUT OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS PER YEAR ONCE YOU DEDUCT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS OUT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR, THEIR AVAILABLE TIME THAT WE HAVE OF THEM FOR THE, FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT TODAY, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT FOLLOW UP.

YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU SUBTRACT ALL THIS OTHER STUFF OUT, HOW MUCH TIME DOES THAT LEAVE FOR OUR OFFICERS TO BE, UM, OUT THERE ON THE STREETS? THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 42 WEEKS.

SO ABOUT 42 WEEKS OUT OF 52.

SO TAKE, TAKING 10 WEEKS OUT OF THEIR SCHEDULE FOR ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY, UH, THAT THEY HAVE AVAILABLE TO 'EM.

UM, YEAH, THAT'S, UM, UH, WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN PERSPECTIVE ALSO, HOW MUCH TIME WE'RE ACTUALLY KEEPING THESE OFFICERS ON THE STREET BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT TAKES 'EM OUT OF CIRCULATION AND SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO FILL IN, OR, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE GAPS IN THE SYSTEM.

AND I, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY.

UM, LIKE I SAID, IF WE COULD GET TOGETHER ON THAT TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE, THAT, AND IF WE ADD MORE TO THE TRAINING OVER TIME, WHAT THAT IS ALSO GONNA DO TO, UH, HAVING OFFICERS OUT ON THE STREET HERE ACROSS SAN ANTONIO.

SO I'D LIKE TO, I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT MORE, A LITTLE BIT MORE HERE IN THE FUTURE.

APPRECIATE IT, CHIEF.

I'LL CHIME BACK IN IF I HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

YES, SIR.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN PERRY.

UH, COUNCILMAN SANDAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.

UM, JUST A, A QUICK QUESTION FOR THE CHAIR AND, AND FOR MARIA.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING THIS BRIEFING TODAY, NO ACTION.

BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE IS WORKING ON A REVIEW OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, FOR, FOR THE CITY.

CAN YOU TELL ME HOW THIS INTEGRATES WITH THAT, OR IF WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS, UH, TRAINING FURTHER? ONCE THAT PROPOSAL IS OUT? UH, IT'S MY INTENTION TO COME BACK.

UM, BUT GO AHEAD, MARIA, UH, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL AND, AND, UH, UM, CHAIR, THE, THE PLAN IS TO COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ONCE THE CITY MANAGER RELEASES THE PLAN TO, FOR THE REVIEW OF, UH, UH, POLICE SERVICES.

WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THIS COMMITTEE TO REVIEW THAT, UH, IN DETAIL.

AND TO YOUR POINT, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, TRAINING IS ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THAT PLAN.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE CHIEF, AS HE MENTIONED, HE'S ALREADY STARTED MAKING SOME IMPROVEMENTS IN TERMS OF FREQUENCY OF SOME OF THOSE TOPICS THAT ARE

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OF, UH, BENEFIT TO THE OFFICERS AND OF INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO ONE THING THAT, UH, I'D, I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU COULD PROVIDE IT FOR US AT SOME POINT, CHIEF, IS THAT I THINK THIS IS A VERY DETAILED OVERVIEW.

UM, BUT ACTUALLY, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING, UH, LIKE A CURRICULUM BINDER THAT WE CAN REFER TO? AND I'LL TELL YOU, UH, YOU, YOU POINTED OUT FIVE, FIVE BIG AREAS AT THE BEGINNING, AND I JUST WANNA SEE HOW THOSE COMPARE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH TIME IS SPENT ON, SAY, UH, INTERPERSONAL OR COMMUNITY INTERACTIONS VERSUS, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW TO USE YOUR BATON.

I MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT REALLY MOST OF THE TIME OUR OFFICERS ARE, AT LEAST IN THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT ALWAYS USING THEIR BATON, BUT INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC.

SO I WOULD PLACE A HIGH PREMIUM ON, ON THAT.

UH, THE OTHER THING THAT WOULD BE OF INTEREST TO ME IS, UH, NOT JUST THE NUMBER OF HOURS, UH, AND THIS, THIS KIND OF GOES TO COUNCILMAN PERRY'S POINT.

UM, YES, IT'S A LOT OF HOURS, BUT, UH, I THINK WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT IS THE QUALITY OF THE INSTRUCTION AS WELL AS THE QUALITY OF THE LEARNING.

UH, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE GAUGE THAT? AND IF SO, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? UH, SO IF YOU COULD, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW, OR IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN THINK ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

OKAY.

AND THEN, OKAY.

WELL, I THINK YOU WILL BE THINKING ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

UH, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING VERY INTERESTING, UH, CHIEF AND I I THINK IT'S GOOD TO HEAR IT THAT PREVIOUS TO, UH, A CERTAIN POINT IN TIME THE TRAINING WAS, YOU SAID A WARRIOR MENTALITY AND THAT YOU'VE CHANGED TO A GUARDIAN MENTALITY.

AND I THINK SOMETHING FOR US TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS HOW MUCH OF OUR POLICE FORCE WAS TRAINED UNDER THAT WARRIOR MENTALITY, UM, VERSUS, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH IS TRAINED UNDER THE NEW WAY? DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THAT CHIEF? YEAH.

WELL THAT, SO THE, THE, UH, SO THE WARRIOR MENTALITY WAS, UM, PREVALENT UP UNTIL MAYBE, I WANNA SAY, FOUR TO FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND THEN SINCE THEN, WE, WE HAVE SWITCHED AND HAVE, UH, WE'VE SWITCHED FULL GEAR TO THE GUARDIAN MENTALITY.

AND, AND JUST AN EXAMPLE, AS AN EXAMPLE, WE USED TO TEACH, UH, IF WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH, WITH A SUSPECT OR SOMEONE ON THE STREET THAT WAS, UH, WE WERE, WE HAD STOPPED THE, THE, UH, THE PROCESS IF YOU WANT, THAT WE WOULD GO THROUGH WAS ASK MAY TELL, FIRST, I'M GONNA ASK YOU, THEN I'M GONNA TELL YOU, THEN I'M GONNA MAKE YOU IF YOU DON'T COMPLY.

AND WE'VE COMPLETELY ABANDONED THAT, UH, THAT, THAT WAY OF DEALING WITH FOLKS ON THE STREET MOVING TO A DEESCALATION, UH, MODEL IN, IN, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT WE, UH, WE DO WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH PEOPLE, WHEN THAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, ALLOWS ITSELF.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND THEN THE, THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THERE ANY POINT IN THE CURRICULUM WHERE OFFICERS CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT THE CITY ITSELF AND THE PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE, OR THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE CHALLENGES THAT MIGHT BE IN THERE, OR EVEN HISTORICAL ISSUES THAT CAN PLACE, UH, THAT CAN PROVIDE SOME FOR SOME OF THE WORK THEY DO? AND PERHAPS THAT'S COVERED IN IMPLICIT BIAS, OR IS THERE ANOTHER AREA WHERE THAT'S COVERED? OKAY.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, I'M GONNA HAVE, UH, OFFICER AYALA ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME.

UH, SHE'S ONE OF THE INSTRUCTORS HERE AND SHE JUST SAT DOWN AND IS READY TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

HELLO.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? UM, I'M SARAH ALA.

I'VE BEEN ON THE DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS NOW.

I'VE BEEN HERE AT THE ACADEMY FOR ONE YEAR.

I TEACH PROFESSIONAL POLICING, WHICH IS GOING TO HIT ON THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING, UM, JUST PARTIALLY BECAUSE THAT'S PARTIALLY HITS ON THE QUESTION.

UM, WE DO HAVE OTHER CATEGORIES.

I'M LOOKING FOR THE SLIDE HERE.

UM, ONE OF THE SLIDES HERE BREAKS IT UP, UM, IN REGARDS TO PROFESSIONAL POLICING AND INTERACTING WITH THE COMMUNITY, IT WOULD ALSO FALL UNDER PROFESSIONALISM AND ETHICS.

MY CLASS ALONE IS 12 HOURS OF PROFESSIONAL POLICING.

WE DO HIT ON COMMUNITY POLICING AS WELL AS HOW THOSE INTERACTIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND HOW THEY AFFECT THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW

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THE COMMUNITY VIEWS US.

SO I THINK OVERALL, ARE YOU ABLE TO CLAIM THAT SLIDE? WE'RE LOOKING AT A GOOD 20 HOURS OR MORE IN WHICH WE'RE HITTING ON THAT TOPIC, BUT MY CLASS ALONE FOCUSES ON THAT, AND THEN IT INTERTWINES WITH OTHER CLASSES AS WELL.

SO WE ARE HITTING ON IT CONSTANTLY.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WHAT SLIDE IS THAT DOWN ON THE BOTTOM EIGHT? SLIDE EIGHT.

SLIDE EIGHT.

IF I MAY, MY, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT, HERE WE GO UNDER PUBLIC INTERACTIONS, RIGHT? IF I SAY FLIGHT NINE, FLIGHT NINE, IF I MAY, UH, OFFICER, COULD YOU FOCUS A LITTLE YOUR ANSWER ON WHAT, UH, WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING SPECIFIC TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE SERVING HERE IN THE, IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE POPULATION THAT'S HERE IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? SHE ASK ANOTHER QUESTION.

MINE'S ON MUTE.

I COULDN'T HEAR QUESTION.

YEAH.

COUNCILMAN, WOULD YOU MIND REPEATING THAT? I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE SHE HEARD, UM, THE, THE CLARIFICATION THAT YOU DID.

THANK YOU.

UH, CHAIR, THE, THE QUESTION IS, COULD YOU TELL US WHAT THEY LEARNED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY OR SAN ANTONIO POPULATION AND THE SAN ANTONIO HISTORICAL CONTEXT DURING THIS SECTION OF THE TRAINING? ARE Y'ALL ABLE TO HEAR, UH, THE COUNCILWOMAN? UM, WOULD YOU, OH, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, COUNCILWOMAN, DO YOU MIND IF WE CIRCLE BACK TO YOU? UH, SEE IF THEY CAN, I THINK THERE'S SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

UM, COUNCILWOMAN.

OKAY.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME ALL RIGHT? YEAH.

GREAT.

UH, THANK YOU.

AND I WANNA THANK, UH, MY COLLEAGUE FIRST, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HOSTING US HERE AT THE TRAINING ACADEMY.

I'M GLAD WE'RE HERE.

UM, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IN DISTRICT THREE, BY THE WAY, EVERYONE YES.

WE GO EVEN FURTHER SOUTH THAN THIS.

UM, NEXT, I THINK MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR QUESTIONS, AND TO COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL'S POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO KNOW IS MORE DETAILS ABOUT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT, UH, CATEGORIES THAT WE HAVE.

UM, WHAT DOES THE IMPLICIT BIAS, UH, TRAINING OR INTERACTION LOOK LIKE? AND CHIEF, ALSO, THESE VIDEOS THAT YOU HAVE GOING AT ROLL CALL THAT ARE THREE TO FIVE MINUTES, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT SOME OF THEM LOOK LIKE.

SO IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH OUR OFFICE, UM, I WOULD, UM, LOVE TO BE ABLE TO CHECK AND SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE IN-SERVICE OR THE TRAINING, YOU HAVE THE AMOUNT OF HOURS AND NONE OF THAT, ALL OF THOSE HOURS ARE STRICTLY IN THOSE CATEGORIES.

CORRECT.

SO THE TRAINING HOURS FOR, UM, IN THE CADET TRAINING ON PAGE, UH, SEVEN WHERE IT SAYS POLICY AND ADMINISTRATION, PUBLIC INTERACTION, THOSE ARE STRICT HOURS JUST FOR THAT TOPIC.

NONE OF THEM ARE OVERLAP, CORRECT? CORRECT.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, ON SLIDE NUMBER EIGHT, IT SAYS, POLICY AND ADMINISTRATION, THE T COLE RULE ROLE.

WHAT ARE THE T O RULES? TCO RULES ARE, ARE, UM, THE, THE RULES THAT, UH, TELL YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY HOURS YOU'RE REQUIRED TO, UH, TRAIN EACH YEAR.

UH, WHAT, WHAT ELSE WE GOT THERE? I GOT, I GOT, UH, ONE OF THE SERGEANTS FROM THE ACADEMY STUFF THERE FOR SERGEANT UNI.

IT JUST HAS TO BE VERY QUICKLY, IF Y'ALL COULD JUST, UH, 'CAUSE MY MINUTES ARE GOING.

HELLO? CAN YOU HEAR ME?

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YES.

YES.

TCO RULES IS REQUIRED BY THE STATE.

IT, UH, ALLOWS AN OFFICER TO UNDERSTAND WHAT INFORMATION THEY NEED TO BE LICENSED, UH, WHAT POLICIES ARE IN PLACE FOR, UH, ANY DISCIPLINARY ISSUES, UH, LICENSE OR CONTINUING EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS, UH, SEPARATION REQUIREMENTS, ALL, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT THE STATE REQUIRES FOR AN OFFICER TO BECOME LICENSED AND TO MAINTAIN THAT LICENSE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE, UH, THE QUESTION IS, ARE THOSE HOURS, THOSE TRAINING HOURS, UM, IS THERE ADDITIONAL PAY, LIKE, UM, IN THE CONTRACT, DO THEY GET BONUS PAY FOR THESE HOURS? OR IT'S JUST THE STANDARDS? UH, IT'S JUST A STANDARD HOUR? NO, THAT'S, THAT THEY'RE YOUR REGULAR DUTY HOURS.

OKAY.

UM, THEN I WANT TO GO TO, UH, THE LAST SLIDE, UM, SLIDE NUMBER 20 WITH OFFICER WELLNESS AND SUPPORT.

UM, SO I THINK OF THE HOURS OR THE WEEK IN TRAINING IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO THE PRODUCTIVITY AND THE TYPE OF PRODUCTIVITY OF OUR OFFICERS.

AND I, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY, UM, IMPORTANT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING THIS, THAT THEY'RE PART OF THIS.

UM, A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN THAT I DO HAVE WITH THE GUARDIAN, THE WARRIOR VERSUS GUARDIAN, IS IT'S STILL A MENTALITY.

SO IT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BREAK IN A MATTER OF EVEN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER REASON WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO DO THIS TRAINING ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT WE AS A CITY HAVE DECLARED, UM, RESOLVED THAT RACISM IS A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.

AND SO NOT SO MUCH INDIVIDUALS, BUT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT SYSTEMS AND INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OUT FOR GENERATIONS BEFORE US AND SEEING WHERE ARE THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO START, UM, WITH THE DISMANTLING AND THE RECONSTRUCTING.

UM, AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE OFFICER CONCERN PROGRAM AND THE PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES.

ARE THESE OPTIONAL OR ARE THEY MANDATORY? BECAUSE I ALSO WANNA KNOW WHAT IS THE MENTAL HEALTH WELLBEING? HOW OFTEN DO OFFICERS GET TO CHECK IN FOR MENTAL HEALTH WELLBEING? IS THAT ON A MONTHLY BASIS? CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT PLEASE? YEAH, LET ME ANSWER PART OF YOUR QUESTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, THE PART FOR OFFICER CONCERN THAT, NO, THAT IS NOT OPTIONAL.

IF YOU ARE PUT IN THAT YOU HAVE NO CHOICE WHETHER TO, UH, TO ENTER THAT PROGRAM OR NOT.

AND I'VE GOT, UM, DR.

PRICE, WHO'S THE HEAD OF OUR PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES UNIT, UH, AT THE SCREEN.

UH, GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON YOUR, ON YOUR OTHER PART OF YOUR QUESTION.

I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

HELLO, I'M JOHN PRICE.

I HAVE BEEN A PSYCHOLOGIST WITH THE TNA POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS NOW.

UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION REGARDING ACCESS TO PSYCHOLOGICAL SERVICES, WE HAVE THREE IN-HOUSE PSYCHOLOGISTS AND OFFICERS.

WE ARE AVAILABLE FOR OFFICERS IN THEIR FAMILY ON A VOLUNTARY BASIS THAT WE CAN HAVE OFFICERS SENT TO US TO THE RETURN TO DUTY PROGRAM.

BUT JUST FOR, USUALLY JUST FOR ASSESSMENT, THE OFFICER CONCERN PROGRAM, THE OFFICER'S REFERRED TO, WE SIT ONE, WE DO SIT AS A MEMBER OF THE OFFICER CONCERN BOARD WHEN THE OFFICER COMES IN FOR, UH, THEIR INTERVIEW AND WE HELP DETERMINE THEIR, UH, ELIGIBILITY AND DEVELOP PLANS.

IF AN OFFICER IS INCLUDED IN THE PROGRAM AND REFERRED TO MY OFFICE, THAT'S AT THE ORDER OF THE CHIEF, AND WE WILL PROVIDE SOME FEEDBACK TO THE OFFICER CONCERN PROGRAM ON THEIR PROGRESS.

OKAY.

UM, SO THERE, THERE'S BOTH A VOLUNTARY SYSTEM AND AS WELL AS IN CASES WHERE THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT THE OFFICER'S WELLBEING, A MANDATED SYSTEM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, CHAIR, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO CHIME BACK IN, BUT I WILL HAVE SOME

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MORE QUESTIONS, I GUESS OFFLINE, ONE-ON-ONE WITH MARIA AND THE CHIEF, BECAUSE I WANNA KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, UM, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS ON HERE AND THE VOLUNTARY NATURE OF ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY HEAVY WHAT YOU ALL, UH, GO THROUGH OUT THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

SO, THANK YOU COUNCIL, UH, COUNCILWOMAN.

ANDREW SULLIVAN.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

YES.

UM, SO, UH, CHIEF ON PAGE SIX, UM, OUR SLIDE SIX, UM, THE ADDITIONAL TRAINING THAT DALLAS IS DOING AT THE 1,431 HOURS COMPARED TO WHERE WE ARE, DO WE KNOW WHY, UM, THAT TRAINING IS, IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UH, WHAT COURSES, UH, THEY, THEY HAVE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE HAVE OR ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT T COLE REQUIRES.

SO THE ANSWER, UH, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, WE CAN SEE IF WE CAN GET A, UH, UM, THEIR, UH, CADET CURRICULUM AND COMPARE THE, UH, COMPARE THE NUMBER, COMPARE THE COURSE TYPES.

OKAY.

UM, I LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT, THAT COMPARES.

UM, I KNOW THAT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB IN THE TIME, UM, THAT NO ONE THOUGHT WE WOULD EVER BE IN.

AND SO, THANK YOU, FIRST AND FOREMOST TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO POLICE OFFICERS AND TO THE TRAINING ACADEMY.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE CHIEF ON PAGE 10, UNDER THE FOREST OPTIONS, UH, THEORY, WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? IT, IT, IT TALKED, UH, WHO WANTS TO, AND WE GOT A FORCE INSTRUCTOR.

WE'RE, I'M GONNA HAVE OFFICER SALINAS .

WHAT'S THAT? I'M GONNA HAVE OFFICER SALINAS ASK THAT, ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

SHE'S, UH, THE INSTRUCTOR THAT, UH, DEALS WITH THAT COURSE.

OKAY.

YOU WANT ME TO JUST USE THIS? YEAH, YOU GO.

OKAY.

HI.

UM, I TRIED TO INTRODUCE MYSELF BEFORE, I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HEARD ME.

I'M ANNIE SALINAS.

UM, I'VE BEEN OUT HERE FOR 15 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN OUT, UM, I'VE BEEN WITH THE DEPARTMENT FOR 15 YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN OUT AT THE ACADEMY FOR FOUR AND A HALF.

I'M THE INSTRUCTOR FOR FORCE OPTIONS, UH, PART OF THAT CLASS.

UM, A LOT OF IT IS CASE LAW.

A LOT OF IT IS DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT COULD LEAD TO A CERTAIN FORCE OPTION AS THE THE OPTION.

UM, SO WHAT ARE THE, WHAT QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY DO YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT? UM, JUST WANTED TO KNOW, WHAT DOES IT LIKE FULLY ENTAIL? WHAT IS THE, THE THEORY, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL THEORY BEHIND, UM, THE FORCE OF OPTIONS AND HOW DOES THAT LOOK AS A CADET IS GOING THROUGH TRAINING? UM, SO I KNOW YOU PROBABLY CAN'T GO INTO FULL DETAIL, BUT I LIKE TO SEE FOR MYSELF, WHAT DOES THAT, UM, ACTUALLY, UM, ENTAIL AS FAR AS YOUR CURRICULUM WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE FORCE OF OPTIONS THEORY? OKAY.

UM, WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN UNDER, THERE'S A FUND, A FOUNDATION OF CASE LAW, UM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE POSSIBLE RAM POSSIBLE RAMIFICATIONS OF USING EXCESSIVE FORCE OF NOT USING SUFFICIENT FORCE.

UM, WE ALSO DO SCENARIO BASED TRAINING WITH CADETS TO GIVE THEM DIFFERENT REALITY BASED, UH, TRAINING THAT ACTUALLY GIVES THEM HANDS-ON APPLICATION.

UM, WE HAVE EXTENSIVE DISCUSSIONS IN CLASS, ESPECIALLY REGARDING CURRENT EVENTS.

UM, AND THEN WE WATCH VIDEOS OF BASICALLY HOW TOS AND HOW NOT TOSS AND WE DISSECT IT AS A CLASS.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

THAT'S, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, OFFICER SALINAS.

YOU'RE WELCOME, MA'AM.

THANKS, MAN.

AND THEN, UM, CHIEF ON PAGE 13, ARE WE LOOKING TO INCREASE THE CIVILIAN INTERACTION TRAINING BY HAVING CADETS ACTUALLY SIT DOWN WITH MAYBE, UM, COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT HAVE HAD, UM, SITUATIONS WITH OFFICERS AND, AND HAVE THEM TALK TO OUR CADETS ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE FEELING? OR IS THIS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING BASED ON A SCENARIO BASED, UM, MODEL HERE IN THE ACADEMY? ONCE, ONCE AGAIN, I'M GONNA HAVE OFFICER SALINAS, UH, TAKE THAT ONE.

OKAY.

HI, MA'AM.

UM, WITH THE CIVILIAN INTERACTION TRAINING PROGRAM, IT'S ONLY TWO HOURS.

UM, BASICALLY IT'S ABOUT HOW OFFICERS AND CIVILIANS SHOULD INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER ON TRAFFIC STOPS.

SO THERE'S A VIDEO, BUT THERE AREN'T ANY GUEST SPEAKERS THAT COME IN FOR THAT CLASS.

AND IT'S ONLY FOR TRAFFIC STOPS.

YES, MA'AM.

THAT SPECIFIC TRAINING PROGRAM, IT'S ALSO, UH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT'S MANDATED BY THE STATE, SO THEY TELL US WHAT, LIKE, THEY KINDA MANDATED WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T TEACH.

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OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, YOU ARE WELCOME.

WHAT'S ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE SE PRESENTATION? SAY THAT AGAIN, COUNCIL MEMBER? I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

WHAT IS ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE OLA PRESENTATION? UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SAT IN ON IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER, I, I BELIEVE THEY TALK ABOUT UNION BUSINESS.

I'M GETTING A BUNCH OF NODS.

YEAH, THAT JUST TALK ABOUT GENERALLY WHAT'S GOING ON IN, UH, WITHIN THE UNION.

OKAY.

AND THEN, UM, MY LAST AND FINAL QUESTION, UNDER THE, UM, HOURS THAT ARE SPENT IN CULTURAL DIVERSITY, UM, IS THAT BASED ON ACTUALLY GOING OUT, UM, LIKE YOU BROKE UP, COUNCIL MEMBER, WOULD YOU REPEAT THAT? OKAY.

SO IN RELATION TO COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL'S QUESTION, WHEN IT COMES TO THE CULTURAL DIVERSITY, UH, TRAINING, ARE WE ACTUALLY GOING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY TO DO THIS CULTURAL TRAINING OR ARE WE JUST DOING IT ON A VIDEO SCENARIO? UM, HOW IS THAT ACTUALLY, UM, BEING TAUGHT? SO, HI OFFICER SALINAS AGAIN.

UM, I TEACH THAT CLASS.

IT'S 14 HOURS OF INSTRUCTION.

SO THROUGH THAT, IN, DURING THAT CLASS, WE HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE N A A C P COME OUT AND TALK TO THE CADETS.

UM, HE'S THE ONLY GUEST SPEAKER SO FAR, UM, BUT HE DOES COME OUT CONSISTENTLY AND TALK TO THEM.

THE LAST TIME HE WAS HERE WAS SEPTEMBER 14TH.

UM, AND THEN THE REST OF IT IS JUST VIDEOS AND DISCUSSION WITH WHAT COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL ASKED ABOUT EARLIER.

UM, IT'S 14 HOURS OF CULTURAL DIVERSITY TRAINING THAT DOES COVER CROSS-CULTURAL COMMUNICATION, EXCUSE ME, UM, HERE IN SAN ANTONIO.

SO WE DO TALK ABOUT CROSS-CULTURAL NORMS AND HOW OFFICERS AND CIVILIANS CAN INTERACT WITH EACH OTHER AS FAR AS COMMUNICATION GOES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

CHAIR.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

UM, REAL QUICK, WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILWOMAN, UM, SANDAL HAD, I THINK IT WAS OFFICER SALINAS THAT WAS ANSWERING MM-HMM.

, WHICH I CAN HEAR WELL NOW.

DO YOU WANNA ASK IT ONE MORE TIME? COUNCILWOMAN? THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, OFFICER, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I THINK IT WAS OFFICER SALINAS THAT WAS TRYING TO ANSWER.

IS SHE STILL THERE? THERE WE GO.

HI, OFFICER.

THE QUESTION WAS REGARDING, UH, THE COMMUNITY INTERACTION TRAINING, THAT WHOLE MODULE THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT, THERE'S IMPLICIT BIAS, UH, THE NAACP STUFF.

UH, WHAT I WANTED TO KNOW IS HOW DOES THAT INTEGRATE THE LOCAL SAN ANTONIO COMMUNITY, UH, AND THE HISTORICAL CONTEXT OF SAN ANTONIO? AND, UH, I'LL EVEN ADD AS SOMETHING THAT COUNCILMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN JUST SAID IS, DO THEY GO OUT TO THE COMMUNITIES DURING THIS TRAINING? SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS TO KNOW, UM, HOW MUCH CONTEXT DO OUR CADETS GET ABOUT OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY BEFORE THEY'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE, UH, POLICING ON THE STREETS? WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

FOR JUST A FEW MORE MOMENTS.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME NOW? YES.

GREAT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, THEY DON'T, THE CADETS DON'T GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF CULTURAL DIVERSITY, BUT THEY DO OUT ON THE RIDEALONGS.

SO THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO BE EXPOSED TO SAN ANTONIO IF THEY'RE NOT FROM HERE.

A LOT OF OUR CADETS ARE FROM SAN ANTONIO, SO THAT HELPS.

UM, AS FAR AS IMPLICIT BIAS THAT'S COVERED IN CULTURAL DIVERSITY AND FAIR AND IMPARTIAL POLICING AND FAIR AND IMPARTIAL POLICING ALSO TALKS ABOUT HOW TO, UM, NAVIGATE MAYBE SOME ISSUES THAT PEOPLE HAVE HAD WITH POLICE IN THE PAST, UH, CURRENTLY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, BASICALLY THERE'S NO PRESENTATION THAT WILL TELL THE CADETS THIS IS THE HISTORY OF POLICING IN SAN ANTONIO.

THIS IS THE HISTORY OF HOW THE NORTH SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE GREW, OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

JUST THAT, THAT SORT OF CONTEXT.

AND, AND THE REASON I, I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE WE SEND SO MANY OF OUR OFFICERS TO AREAS THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CRIME.

AND, UH,

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AND WE KNOW THAT POLICE ISN'T THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THAT PROBLEM.

RIGHT.

THAT THERE'S A WHOLE, UH, CONTEXT ABOUT THAT.

SO WE, UM, THAT'S THE TYPE OF CONTEXT.

I'M WONDERING IF THEY GET, IS THERE ANYTHING LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW IN THE CURRICULUM? UM, NO, NOT, NOT THAT I CAN RECALL.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE LEARNING BECAUSE, UH, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE BACK LATER TO, TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN, UM, MODIFY THE CURRICULUM.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

MM-HMM.

.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL SANDOVAL.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM IN OUR AGENDA IS A BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON S A P D GRANT MOBILIZATION TO THE, UH, .

OH, I'M SORRY.

THAT IS NOT THE NEXT ITEM.

THE

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NEXT ITEM IS POSSIBLE BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON S A P D GRANT AWARD NOT TO EXCEED 650,000 FOR F Y 2020 ENHANCED COLLABORATIVE TASK FORCE TO COMBAT HUMAN TRAFFICKING FROM THE U S D O J AND O J P MARIA, OR MAYBE CHIEF.

HI COUNCILWOMAN.

I APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

THAT'S OKAY.

UM, UH, I WANTED TO ASK THE CHAIR IF WE COULD TAKE THE THREE, UH, GRANTS THAT WE HAVE ON THE AGENDA ALTOGETHER IS, UH, THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING GRANT AS WELL AS TWO TRAFFICK ENFORCEMENT.

UH, ONE IS OUR, UH, CLICK IT OR TICKET, UH, SELECTIVE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT PROGRAM, AND ALSO OUR IMPAIRED DRIVING MOBILIZATION.

YES, PLEASE DO.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, TO THE CHIEF.

UH, THANK YOU, MARIA.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, OUR HUMAN TRAFFICKING GRANT, UH, WILL ALLOW US TO EXPAND OUR, OUR HUMAN TRAFFICKING TASK FORCE OPERATIONS.

IT IS OVERTIME FUNDED.

UM, IT WILL PROVIDE, UH, VICTIM SERVICES AS WELL AS A PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.

AND THE GRANT PERIOD IS FROM OCTOBER, 2020 TO SEPTEMBER OF 2023.

IT'S A $650,000 GRANT WITH A, WITH A $242,000 IN-KIND MATCH.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE AL ALAMO AREA COALITION AGAINST HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

THERE ARE 70, UH, PLUS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, UH, AND ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS WITHIN THAT COALITION.

UM, CORE PARTNERS INCLUDE US, THE US ATTORNEY, AND THAT THE US ATTORNEY IS A, UH, PROSECUTES FEDERALLY, UH, AND OUR MAIN PARTNER IN THIS IS THE BAPTIST CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES.

UH, WE DO COORDINATE INVESTIGATIONS, UH, COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND TRAINING, AND PROVIDE VICTIM SERVICES AS WELL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, WE ALSO HAVE A HUMAN TRAFFICKING DETAIL, AND THAT'S COMPRISED OF A LIEUTENANT AND THREE DETECTIVES.

UM, HUMAN TRAFFICKING HAS BEEN A PRIORITY WITHIN S A P D, UH, FOR EVERY OFFICER.

AND OUR PUBLIC PUBLIC AWARENESS AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH THAT WE DO ON A, ON A PRETTY CONTINUAL BASIS IS CRITICAL TO HELPING IDENTIFY AND ADDRESS, UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, IN 2019, WE HAD 97 INVESTIGATIONS.

UH, YEAR TO DATE, WE HAVE 80, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE NUMBERS.

AND WE FILED 29 CASES IN 2019, UH, 15.

SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE'VE MADE 22 ARRESTS.

OUT OF THOSE 29 CASES THAT WE FILED IN 2019, WE HAD 16 INDICTMENTS.

AND THIS YEAR, 15 CASES FILED, 19 ARRESTS WITH NINE INDICTMENTS SO FAR.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I MENTIONED THAT OUR MAIN PARTNER IN THIS IS OUR FAMILY, IS A, I'M SORRY, THE, UH, BAPTIST CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES.

UH, THEY PROVIDE FOOD, SHELTER, CLOTHING, MEDICAL ATTENTION, UH, OUR LONG-TERM NEEDS.

THEY, THEY WILL HELP EVEN HELP PAY RENT.

UH, THEY'LL PROVIDE COUNSELING, SERVICES AND EDUCATION AS WELL WITH CHILDREN.

UM, OUR PUBLIC AWARENESS CAMPAIGN, WE EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, UH, ON RECOGNITION OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

UH, WE, WE ARE HEAVY INTO THAT IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING AWARENESS MONTH, UH, MAJOR HOLIDAYS AND, UH, HIGH PROFILE EVENTS.

NEXT SLIDE.

OH, AND THAT'S THE LAST ONE FOR, UH, HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

UH, IF WE CAN MOVE INTO CLICK IT OR TICKET, THAT'S OUR STEP GRANT, UH, WHICH WE IS A REGULAR GRANT

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THAT WE HAVE.

UM, IT'S ENFORCEMENT OF TRAFFIC, UH, SAFETY RELATED REGULATIONS.

UM, WE DO NOT ONLY ENFORCEMENT, BUT WE DO PUBLIC, UH, EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS AS WELL.

THE, UM, GRANT PERIOD IS FROM NOVEMBER TO DECEMBER OF THIS YEAR, 35,000 GRANT WITH AN IN-KIND MATCH OF 8,700.

AND IT FUNDS OVERTIME, UH, TO PROMOTE VEHICLE RESTRAINT USE AND CHILD RESTRAINT USE.

AND, UH, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE DRIVING OUT THERE WITHOUT A TICKET, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, WITHOUT A SEATBELT, YOU'RE LIKELY TO GET TICKETED FOR, UH, THE OFFICERS ARE ALL EYES DURING THIS, UM, CLICK IT OR TICKET PROGRAM.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

AS I SAY, WE WOULD, WE WOULD PREFER TO, UH, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF WEARING A SEATBELT.

SO WE PARTICIPATE IN, IN, UH, PROMOTING THE IMPORTANCE OF WEARING A SEAT, UH, A SEATBELT AND PRACTICING SAFE DRIVING, UH, HABITS AND SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES, AND, UH, OTHER, UH, EVENTS, UH, IN NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

OUR NEXT ONE IS OUR D W I ENFORCEMENT GRANT.

UM, UH, OBVIOUSLY IT IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF TRAFFIC RELATED ACCIDENTS, CRASHES, UH, INVOLVING DRINKING.

UH, WE ALSO DO A PUBLIC EDUCATION AND AN INFORMATION CAMPAIGN.

THE GRANT PERIOD IS FROM DECEMBER, 2020 TO SEPTEMBER, 2021.

IT'S A $65,000 GRANT WITH AN IN-KIND MATCH OF 81,000.

THE, UH, OVERTIME FUNDS, UH, ARE DEDICATED TO AUGMENT OUR EFFORT, OUR ON-DUTY EFFORTS TO REDUCE THE INCIDENTS OF D W I.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, SO FAR THIS YEAR, WE'VE HAD 2200 D W I ARRESTS.

UH, 416 OF THOSE ARE FELONIES, 11,700 TRAFFIC CITATIONS, AND 97, I'M SORRY, 79 FOR AGGRESSIVE DRIVING.

AND OUR RECOMMENDATION ON ALL OF THESE GRANTS IS TO, UH, FORWARD THEM TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON OCTOBER 29TH.

AND THAT CONCLUDES THE GRANT PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

THAT'S, UM, THOSE WERE, THAT WAS ITEMS THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE, RIGHT? CHIEF? YES, MA'AM.

YES, MA'AM.

OKAY.

SO WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS ON THOSE THREE ITEMS. UH, THE, UM, WE'LL START WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN.

UM, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

CHIEF, ON THE, IN KIND FOR THESE GRANTS, YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE BEING FUNDED BY THE OVERTIME, THE, THE KIND MATCH, THE, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE GRANTS ARE FOR OVERTIME WORK, BUT THE IN-KIND, UH, MATCH IS, UH, EQUIPMENT, UM, CAR, CAR USAGE, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S NO, UM, MONEY BEING DEDUCTED OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, OR NO, MA'AM.

OKAY.

UM, THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD.

I KNOW THAT THESE GRANTS REALLY, UH, WILL HELP OUR COMMUNITY.

SO YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, COUNCIL GRANT.

UH, THANK YOU CHAIR.

UH, THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THE ONLY, UH, QUESTION, OR A COMMENT I HAVE IS, UM, AND I AM VERY APPRECIATIVE OF ALL OF THE WORK THAT WE DO WITH OUR TASK FORCE WHEN IT COMES TO HUMAN TRAFFICKING, BUT REALLY SEEING, UM, FURTHER COLLABORATION WITH OUR, UM, OUR LOCAL GRASSROOTS, UH, INDIVIDUALS, WOMEN WHO ARE SURVIVORS OF, AND JUST PEOPLE WHO ARE SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

AND I THINK THEY'RE PART OF THE, THE TASK FORCE AS WELL.

BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO DO THIS IN A SCHOOL SETTING, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT SCHOOL AGE PEOPLE, SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN IN HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL ESPECIALLY, ARE TARGETS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING AS WELL.

SO GETTING THE WORD OUT I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

UM, SO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

SO, THANK YOU, CHIEF.

THOSE ARE ALL OF MY, UM, QUESTIONS.

ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION CHAIR TO MOVE THIS? UH, YES, PLEASE.

TO FULL COUNSEL CONSIDERATION? UM, YES.

FOR THE, FOR THE THREE ITEMS, I GUESS WE NEED, DO WE NEED THREE SEPARATE MOTIONS? I DON'T THINK SO.

THE ONE FOR ALL THREE.

OKAY.

SO, UH, CHAIR,

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I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE THREE GRANTS AS PRESENTED.

I'LL SECOND.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

THANK YOU.

COUNCIL PERRY, THE SECOND.

AND, UH, WE'LL MOVE OVER TO COUNCILWOMAN .

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

JUST A CLARIFYING QUESTION.

UM, SO THE MEMO SAYS THAT THE, UM, THAT THE GRANT OR THAT OUR IN KIND IS TO DETECTIVES, IS THAT RIGHT? UH, COUNCIL, COUNCIL MENDEZ IS MARIA.

SO FOR TWO OF THE GRANTS, THE TRAFFIC GRANTS, WHAT THE CHIEF MENTIONED IS CORRECT THE EQUIPMENT, UH, AND SUPPLIES IS IN KIND FOR THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING GRANT.

A PORTION IS THE SALARIES OF THOSE TWO DETECTIVES, THE PERSONAL COST.

OKAY.

ASSOCIATED, YES.

SO ALL THAT MM-HMM.

, GO AHEAD.

UM, WELL, SO YEAH, I, I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT OVERTIME FUNDING FOR HUMAN AND SEX TRAFFICKING CASES, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S HOW THE MONEY'S GOING TO BE USED.

AND I GUESS I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, UM, WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE BUDGETED IF WE DON'T GET THE GRANT, AND THEN WHAT THE GRANT ADDS ON? UH, YES.

COUNCILMAN MM-HMM.

.

SURE.

SO THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING DETAIL WITHIN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS COMPRISED OF FOUR POSITIONS, ONE LIEUTENANT AND THREE DETECTIVES.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, FUNDING FOR SOME OF THE PROBATION PROMOTIONAL MATERIALS.

WHAT THIS, UH, GRANT IS GONNA PROVIDE IS FUNDING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO AUGMENT THE, THE, THE TRAFFIC IN, UH, THE HUMAN TRAFFICKING DETAIL WITH ADDITIONAL OVERTIME TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE INVESTIGATIONS, BOTH, UH, PROACTIVE AND REACTIVE.

AND ALSO TO WORK WITH, UH, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS TO DO MORE, UH, PUBLIC INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND, AND TO AUGMENT WHAT I'M SAYING, WHAT I CAN DO, COUNCILMAN, IS PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE WITH THE, UH, LINE ITEM BUDGET FOR THAT PARTICULAR GRANT.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF HOW WE'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING THOSE, UH, DOLLARS FROM THE GRANT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MARIA.

UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.

YOU ARE, YOU'RE MUTED CHAIR, BUT I'M, I'M DONE WITH MY QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SORRY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL.

UH, COUNCILMAN TERRY, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

OKAY.

UM, SO, UM, WE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THESE THREE ITEMS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

A MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU.

UH,

[6. 20-6201 Briefing on the purchase of an All Terrain Medical/Fire Response Vehicle (MedCat) for the San Antonio Fire Department [Maria Villagomez, Deputy City Manager; Charles N. Hood, Fire Chief]]

NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A BRIEFING ON THE PURCHASE OF AN ALL-TERRAIN MEDICAL FIRE RESPONSE VIA MEDCAT FOR S A D.

UM, I THINK THIS IS CHIEF HOOD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME OKAY? I GOT THE THUMBS UP.

I GOT FOREHEAD SHAKING.

COUNCILMAN PERRY MOVED HIS HAIR.

SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME.

UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIRMAN, AND, UH, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE.

UM, LAUREN, IF YOU COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PLAY THIS REAL QUICK VIDEO THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

FOUR PEOPLE KILLED SHOOTING.

RIGHT NOW, SAN ANTONIO POLICE ARE CALLING SUICIDE IN THEIR SEVEN ALONE UNFOLD, FIGHT FROM THE OUTSIDE

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WEAPONS.

THANKS, LAUREN.

I, I HOPE THAT VIDEO PLAYED BETTER FOR YOU GUYS THAN IT DID, UH, FOR ME.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE FIRST SLIDE, PLEASE.

OKAY, THERE WE GO.

SO WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT THIS PICTURE RIGHT HERE, THIS WAS A, UM, BARRICADED SUSPECT THAT WE HAD OVER KIND OF THE MEDICAL CENTER AREA, UM, WHERE HE HAD, UM, BASICALLY SET HIS HOUSE ON FIRE AND, UM, STARTED SHOOTING ROUNDS.

WE'VE HAD THREE OF THESE INCIDENTS IN THE LAST YEAR, AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A, A BIG CHALLENGE FOR US.

AND SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT KEEP YOU AWAKE AT NIGHT, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT KEEPS ME AWAKE AT NIGHT AS FAR AS SOME TYPE OF, UH, COMPLEX RESPONSE, SUCH AS THIS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, AGAIN, SO OUR PROBLEM ASSESSMENT HERE IS, UH, FIRE AS A WEAPON TYPE OF INCIDENT.

SO THOSE COULD BE ACTIVE SHOOTER INCIDENTS WHERE SOMEONE HAS SET A FIRE, WHICH IS GONNA BE A, A COMPLEX TACTICAL EVENT FOR US.

UH, OR IT COULD BE, UM, A, SAY A VEGAS STYLE SHOOTING, OR, UM, A COMPLEX COORDINATED ATTACK WHERE WE HAVE MULTIPLE ATTACKS GOING ON IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

SO THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN PREPARING FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, UH, OUR NEEDS.

AND SO WE DO EVERYTHING IN A CONDITIONS, ACTIONS, AND NEEDS.

AND SO BASICALLY OUR NEEDS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PD TO EVALUATE MULTIPLE OPTIONS TO, UH, HAVE RES TO AN INCIDENT TO PROTECT CIVILIANS WHEN THEY'RE BEING FIRED UPON, AND TO PROTECT OUR FIREFIGHTERS.

SO, UH, MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH, UH, A LARGE PURCHASE OF, UH, OF A TACTICAL PERSONAL PROTECTIVE GEAR.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

ALSO, THE TRAINING THAT WE'VE DONE.

AND THEN OUR BIG ISSUE HERE IS HAVING THE ABILITY TO EXTINGUISH A FIRE AND, UH, TREAT THE PATIENTS IN AN AREA WHILE WE'RE PROTECTED.

AND SO OUR FIRE TRUCKS, UH, THEY DON'T STOP BULLETS.

UH, OUR EQUIPMENT DOES NOT STOP BULLETS.

AND SO HOW DO WE PUT WATER ON A FIRE TO PROTECT EXPOSURE IN A SITUATION SUCH AS WE'VE SEEN IN SOME OF, OF THESE VIDEOS? SO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO, SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, WE'VE WORKED WITH, UH, S A P D OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS TO RESPOND TO COORDINATED COMPLEX ATTACKS.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IS UNIFIED COMMAND.

SO WE WORK VERY WELL AT A LOT OF TRAINING AS FAR AS WHO'S IN CHARGE, HOW DO WE MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RESOURCES WE NEED, ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND SO IT TAKES A UNIFIED COMMAND BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FIRE.

SO WE'VE DONE OVER 10,000, UH, R T F HOURS, UH, AS FAR AS TRAINING.

UH, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE, UH, EVENTS WHERE WE'VE HAD ACTIVE SHOOTER EXERCISES AT THE ALAMO DOME, FREEMAN U S A A, KAIZEN MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND THE MAGIC THEATER, WHICH WHEN WE DID MAGIC THEATER, WE ACTUALLY DID ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS AT NIGHTTIME, UH, WITH, WITH, UH, WITH THEATRICS AS FAR AS SOUND AND ALL OF THOSE SPECIAL EFFECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE'RE WORKING WITH A LARGE GROUP OF, OF, OF LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, EVERYBODY KIND OF UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO OUR TRAINING CONTINUES, ALTHOUGH WE'VE BEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, DOING A LOT OF COVID WILD LAND AND, UH, HURRICANE ACTIVITY, OUR RESCUE TASK FORCE TRAINING CONTINUES.

MOST OF YOU REMEMBER THAT HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR A WHILE.

WE PURCHASED OVER $725,000 IN, UH, BALLISTIC GEAR.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS TODAY I HAVE 50 PLUS UNITS, UH, IN THE FIELD TODAY THAT ARE EQUIPPED WITH, UM, BALLISTIC GEAR.

THAT'S 186 SETS.

AND THEN WE HAVE 12 SETS FOR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE AT THE, UH, ALAMO DOME.

WE HAVE BALLISTIC

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GEAR AT OUR AVIATION, UH, STATION AT THE AIRPORT.

SO, UH, WE HAVE WENT OUT AND, UH, PUT OUR MONEY INTO PROTECTIVE AND BALLISTIC GEAR SO OUR FIREFIGHTERS CAN USE THIS.

SO ONE OF THE BIG CHALLENGES WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO WORK FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS TO HAVE A, A REINFORCED, UH, VEHICLE THAT CAN ACTUALLY GO IN AND PUT WATER ON AN EXPOSURE WHILE TAKING FIRE OR TO EXTRICATE, UH, MEDICAL PEOPLE.

WHERE YOU SAW IN VEGAS WHERE THERE ARE A MULTITUDE OF PEOPLE THAT WERE INJURED, THERE'S NO WAY TO EXTRICATE THEM, UH, WHEN THEY WERE TAKING FIRE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A, UH, A MEDCAT, AND PEOPLE HAVE HEARD THE TERM BEARCAT.

THIS IS A, UH, A MEDCAT.

IT'S RED.

THIS IS ACTUALLY THE ONE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE GETTING.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME CREATIVE FOLKS TO PHOTOSHOP THE, UH, INSIGNIAS AND THINGS ON IT.

BUT THIS VEHICLE'S GONNA OFFER PROTECTION FOR OUR RESPONDERS TO WHERE THEY CAN PULL UP AND PUT WATER ON A FIRE AND EXTRICATE PATIENTS IF WE NEED TO.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO IF YOU LOOK TO YOUR RIGHT, UH, YOU SEE A NOZZLE, YOU SEE A TORENT.

SO WE COULD PULL UP, SUPPLY THIS, UM, TORENT WITH WATER AND BE ABLE TO PUT WATER ON A HOUSE, WATER ON AN EXPOSURE TO WHERE, UH, THE FOLKS INSIDE ARE PROTECTED.

SO THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE ADVANTAGE FOR US TACTICALLY, TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, WE HAD A FIRE DOWN SOUTH, AND, UH, SO, UM, COUNCILWOMAN, UH, WHO WAS IT? I CAN'T EVEN, COUNCIL.

THERE YOU GO.

RAISE YOUR, I, I CAN'T SEE IT.

COUNCILWOMAN GRO, YOU REMEMBER THIS FIRE? WE, UM, BURNED DOWN ONE HOUSE ON ONE SIDE BECAUSE IT WAS AN EXPOSURE.

FORTUNATELY, THERE WAS A VACANT LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THE WIND WASN'T BAD.

BUT A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE IF WE'D HAVE HAD HOUSES ON BOTH SIDES, WE'D HAVE POTENTIALLY BURNED DOWN THAT BLOCK BECAUSE WE COULD NOT PUT HOSES IN PLAY BECAUSE WE WERE TAKING FIRE.

SO WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GO IN AND DO SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE WITH THIS PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

IT'S THE ONLY TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT IS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, OUR KNOWLEDGE, AND WE'RE GONNA BE ONE OF THE FIRST LARGE CITY DEPARTMENTS TO HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT LIKE THIS.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER TWO SLIDES, YOU SEE SUCTION EQUIPMENT, YOU SEE OXYGEN, YOU SEE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT TO WHERE, UH, WE CAN TREAT PATIENTS.

WORST CASE SCENARIO, THAT'S GONNA BE LOADED UP WITH PEOPLE BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM OUT OF THE LINE OF FIRE, BUT WE CAN'T PROVIDE MEDICAL TREATMENT.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, QUICK EGRESS FROM A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S FIRE OR THERE'S SHOOTING GOING ON.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THIS PURCHASE IS $346,000.

UM, AND SO, UH, TO BE FUNDED WITH THE 2020 BUDGET, WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND THIS, AND, UH, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.

UH, THIS IS GONNA BE GOING, UH, TO COUNCIL FOR A SESSION ON OCTOBER 29TH.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

BE SAFE.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

UH, WE'LL START WITH, UH, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILMAN PERRY? YEAH, CHIEF, YOU HAD MENTIONED THE, UH, THANKS.

THANKS FOR THAT.

UH, YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU HAD HOW MANY INCIDENTS THAT YOU COULD HAVE USED THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE ON COUNSEL? WE HAD THREE LAST YEAR THAT WE COULD HAVE USED THIS VEHICLE ON.

AND, UM, AGAIN, IF WE GET A, UH, AN ACTIVE SHOOTING INCIDENT AND, AND THE POLICE FOLKS THERE WILL, WILL NOD THEIR HEADS.

ALSO, IF THIS PERSON'S SHOOTING OUT OF A HOUSE, THERE'S NOWHERE WE'RE GONNA GET UP TO IT.

AND THEN IF THEY DECIDE TO USE FIRE AS A WEAPON, WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA LOSE MORE THAN ONE HOUSE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, IF WE'D HAVE HAD THIS VEHICLE LAST YEAR, WE'D PAY BIG DIVIDENDS FOR, SO WE'VE HAD AT LEAST THREE LAST YEAR.

THIS WEEK ALONE, WE HAVE HAD THREE BARRICADE SITUATIONS IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

SO THE, UH, THE THREAT IS THERE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

BUT YOU'RE, BUT WE HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER TACTICAL VEHICLES THAT WE COULD GET IN CLOSE ENOUGH TO, UH, EVACUATE PEOPLE, THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, OTHER THAN WITH THE WATER CANNON ON IT, WELL, COUNCILMAN PERRY, THE, THE, THE WATER CANNON IS TO PUT OUT A FIRE OKAY.

TO BE ABLE TO GET UP TO THAT FIRE, TAKING FIRE.

I COULDN'T DO THAT IN A FIRE TRUCK.

THAT FIRE TRUCK WILL GET SHOT UP.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA ALLOW US TO DRIVE UP UNDER FIRE, UNDER PROTECTION, AND TO BE ABLE TO, TO SHOOT WATER AND TO CONTINUE TO MOVE.

UH, IN FIRE TRUCKS, WE DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY.

THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN PUMP AND DRIVE WOULD BE A BRUSH TRUCK BECAUSE WE'RE DRIVING AND SHOOTING WATER.

SO THE OTHER

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BIG ADVANTAGE FOR US IS, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LOAD PATIENTS UP.

SO WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT ARMORED VEHICLES AND YOU SEE SCENES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, WELL, NOT IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT YOU SEE, UH, IN PARTICULAR ISRAEL OR CHINA WHERE THEY USE BIG WATER TO, AS FAR AS CROWD CONTROL, THIS VEHICLE WILL NEVER BE USED IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS.

SO, BUT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO APPLY WATER IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE TAKING FIRE.

SO THAT'S WHAT THIS VEHICLE'S GONNA BE USED FOR.

A FIRE OR ONE OF THESE SITUATIONS.

IS THIS THE ONLY VEHICLE THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH IF THERE ISN'T A FIRE? COUNSEL, YOU WERE MUTED AT THE BEGINNING OF YOUR QUESTION.

I DIDN'T HEAR IT.

OKAY.

UH, I WAS SAYING THAT'S IN CASE THERE IS AN ACTIVE FIRE, NOT A, NOT A, UH, NOT A SHOOTER.

BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A FIRE, UM, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER VEHICLES THAT WOULD, COULD COPE WITH THAT WITH AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, BUT NO FIRE? WELL, THE ONLY THING THAT WE DO HAVE WOULD BE THE AVAILABILITY OF PDS ARMORED VEHICLE, IF THAT WAS AVAILABLE.

BUT THIS IS GONNA BE AVAILABLE TO LOAD STRETCHERS UP INTO, TO ACTUALLY PUT PEOPLE IN IF WE NEED TO AND PROTECT THEM.

SO IT'S GONNA BE A HUGE ADVANTAGE, WHETHER IT'S A FIRE OR WHETHER THERE'S, THERE'S AN ACTIVE SHOOTER, OR GOD FORBID THE FIRES USED AS A WEAPON TO WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

OKAY.

AND JUST EXPLAIN TO ME THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UM, CARRYING CAPACITY OF WATER ON IT.

DOES IT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT HOOKED UP TO A HOSE? ABSOLUTELY.

SO WE WOULD LAY, WE WOULD LAY A HOSE LINE INTO IT AND THEN BE ABLE TO DRIVE IT UP TO WHEREVER AND PULL THAT HOSE LINE WITH US OR THAT PIECE OF SUPPLY LINE SO THERE'S NOT A WATER TANK ON BOARD THIS VEHICLE.

BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD ALLOW US TO HOOK INTO A WATER SOURCE AND BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT UP AS CLOSE AS WE HAVE TO, TO PROTECT THAT HOUSE THAT'S ON FIRE.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.

THANKS, CHIEF.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, MS. COUNCILMAN PERRY, COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL, NO QUESTIONS.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN GERRAN, JUST A COMMENT.

UH, THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR YOUR WORK.

UH, THAT WAS A PRETTY HORRIBLE SITUATION THAT WE HAD THERE, UM, IN DISTRICT THREE WITH THE, UM, FIRE AS A WEAPON AND, UH, THE SHOOTING.

SO I KNOW THIS WILL COME IN, THIS WILL BE HELPFUL.

CAN Y'ALL HEAR ME? YES.

SO THANK YOU.

UH, JUST MY COMMENTS AND I JUST ALSO WANTED TO KNOW, UH, CHIEF HOOD, HAVE YOU VOTED YET? ? YES.

HOLD ON.

TIME OUT.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

, THAT'S ALL.

CHAIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN VIE.

COUNCILMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN.

UM, THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND THANK CHIEFS.

UH, THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UM, WITH THE NEW CALIBER OR NEW STYLE OF, OF, UM, ARMOR PIERCING BULLETS THAT, UM, MANY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, GET A HANDLE ON, UM, HOW WILL THIS VEHICLE HELP IF THOSE PROJECTILES ARE USED? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY CONFIDENT IN, IN THE, UH, THE ABILITY OF, OF, OF THIS VEHICLE TO PROTECT OUR FOLKS ALONG WITH THE BALLISTICS THAT WE HAVE BOUGHT.

UH, AGAIN, BEING PREPARED TO STOP A MILITARY GRADE ROUND IS, IS WHAT OUR EQUIPMENT THAT WE PLACE OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND PARAMEDICS IN.

AND SO THE SAME THING WOULD GO FOR THIS VEHICLE.

SO, UH, WE, WE HAVE THE UTMOST CONFIDENCE THAT THIS IS GONNA BE ABLE TO TAKE A, YOU KNOW, LARGE PROJECTILE ROUND, UH, AND KEEP OUR MEMBERS SAFE.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU, CHIEF HOOD.

UM, AND THEN IF, IF THIS VEHICLE HAD BEEN IN EL PASO, UM, DURING THAT UNFORTUNATE EVENT, UM, WOULD YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO IN WITH THIS VEHICLE AND, AND EXTRACT THOSE THAT WERE ABLE TO BE, UM, MOBILE AND, AND MOVE INTO THE VEHICLE? UM, WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UM, SUITABLE FOR AN INCIDENT SUCH AS THAT THIS WOULD'VE BEEN SUITABLE FOR AN INCIDENT LIKE THAT? THE THING IS THAT WE'VE, UH, SEEN WITH THE EL PASO SHOOTER, UM, THE SHOOTER WAS IN ONE SPOT AND, UH, A LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE WERE INSIDE OF THE STORE.

SO, UH, IT WOULD BE IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT.

BUT IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN VEGAS WHERE YOU HAD A ELEVATED SHOOTER SHOOTING FROM A HOTEL, AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT WERE LAYING OUT THERE THAT WERE INJURED AND THERE WAS NO WAY TO MOVE THEM,

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SO IT WOULD'VE PAID OFF HUGE DIVIDENDS TO HAVE A VEHICLE LIKE THAT IN A SITUATION TO WHERE SITUATION, TO WHERE YOU CAN MOVE SOMEBODY IN AND TAKE THAT, TAKE THE ROUNDS AND BE ABLE TO EXTRICATE THEM.

SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA TRAIN WITH IT.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE AVAILABLE FOR ANY TYPE OF, UM, MISSION THAT IS GOING TO ENCOUNTER, WHETHER IT'S, UH, UH, A WALMART OR WHETHER IT'S A HOTEL OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.

BUT THE AVAILABILITY TO HAVE ADDITIONAL TOOLS OR OPTIONS IN OUR RESPONSE IS, IS GONNA BE HUGE FOR US BECAUSE AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NO VEHICLE LIKE THIS.

AND I GUARANTEE ANY FIRE CHIEF IN THE COUNTRY WILL BE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT LIKE THIS.

AWESOME.

AND, AND BY THE WAY, CHIEF HOOD LOVE THE FRO.

IT'S GROWING OUT.

, IT'S, UH, I'M, I'M, I'M GONNA HAVE DREADLOCKS EVENTUALLY, SO I'VE GOTTA LET IT GROW OUT.

AWESOME.

UM, THANK YOU CHAIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

CHIEF HOOD.

MADAM CHAIR, DO YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THIS TO, TO GO FORWARD? OR, OR WHAT ARE WE DOING? JUST THE BRIEFING.

I, I'M, I'M SORRY.

I YOU CUT OUT.

DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS TO GO FORWARD, OR IS THIS JUST THE BRIEFING? SORRY, I THINK WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL ISSUES AGAIN.

DID YOU HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILWOMAN? I SAID DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS OR THIS? JUST A BRIEFING.

I CAN'T HEAR.

OKAY.

MOTION.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN, THIS IS MARIA.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

IT, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A BRIEFING, NOT A, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION.

OKAY.

AWESOME.

AWESOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN.

I'M SORRY I HAD TROUBLE HEARING YOU THERE AT THE END.

UM, UH, SO I'LL, I'LL, UH, JUST, I HOPE WE HAVE FULL SUPPORT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO COUNSEL WITH NO ACTION AT THIS TIME.

UM, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT,

[7. 20-6199 Briefing and possible action on the purchase of a replacement ballistic-resistant response and rescue vehicle for the San Antonio Police Department [Maria Villagomez, Deputy City Manager; William P. McManus, Chief of Police] Adjourn]

UH, ITEM, ITEM SEVEN, BRIEFING AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE PURCHASE OF A REPLACEMENT, BALLISTIC RESISTANT RESPONSE AND RESCUE VEHICLE FOR S A P D.

UM, ANY, UH, UH, IS IT MARIA, OUR CHIEF? THANKS, COUNCIL MEMBER.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, I CAN.

OKAY.

SO, UH, I'M ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT A REPLACEMENT, UH, VEHICLE, TACTICAL RESPONSE AND A RESCUE VEHICLE, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE, I'M SORRY, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THE ONE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS, IS THE ONE YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

UM, AND IT IS, UH, IT'S 22 YEARS OLD AND, UM, IT, IT'S A, IT'S USED IN CRITICAL INCIDENTS, ACTIVE SHOOTER TYPE INCIDENTS, UH, WHERE WE MIGHT HAVE TO EXTRICATE SOMEONE, OR WE MIGHT HAVE TO GET CLOSE TO THE SCENE.

UM, IT'S USED IN ANY KIND OF DISASTER.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A HEAVY WINCH, UH, ON IT AND FLOODLIGHTS ON THE TOP, UM, USED IN, IN, UH, ANY KIND OF SPECIAL EVENT THAT, THAT THE VEHICLE MAY, UH, MAY PROVIDE SOME BENEFIT AND ANY KIND OF HIGH RISK, UH, SEARCH, UH, OR ANY KIND OF HIGH RISK OPERATION THAT THE POLICE MIGHT BE INVOLVED IN.

UM, SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO THIS, THIS VEHICLE IS USED ONLY BY THE SWAT TEAM AND THE, JUST FOR SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS.

SO OUR SWAT TEAM IS CLASSIFIED AS A TIER ONE TEAM, AND IT, AND IT WORKS IN THE ENTIRE ACOG REGION.

UM, AND IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN A TIER ONE STATUS, THE SWAT TEAM IS REQUIRED TO HA TO MAINTAIN TWO OPERATIONAL BALLISTIC RES RESISTANT TACTICAL VEHICLES.

THE COST OF THIS VEHICLE IS 225,000, UH, AND IT WILL BE FUNDED IN THE TWO, UH, FISCAL YEAR 220, UH, 2020, UH, GENERAL FUND BUDGET.

UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO THE, UH, FULL COUNSEL FOR OCTOBER 29TH TO REPLACE THE, THE EXISTING, UH, SWAT BULLET RESISTANT VEHICLE.

UM, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE ON THAT.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

I'LL START WITH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ANDREW SULLIVAN.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, COUNCILWOMAN VRAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

YES.

UM, SO HOW MANY OF THESE VEHICLES DO YOU HAVE, CHIEF? WE HAVE ONE RE THE, THE ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE ONE THAT WE WOULD BE REPLACING.

THERE'S ANOTHER ONE

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THAT WE HAVE AS WELL.

IT'S A LARGER VEHICLE AND IT'S USED ESSENTIALLY FOR THE SAME PURPOSE, UH, FOR, UH, RESCUE IN, UH, UM, ACTIVE TYPE SHOOTER SITUATIONS OR A HOSTAGE SITUATIONS OR BARRICADE SITUATIONS.

YOU WOULD NOT USE THIS IF SOMEBODY WAS HAVING A, UM, A MARCH OR A GATHERING OR AN ASSEMBLY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO, MA'AM.

IT'S NOT, WE WOULD NOT CALL THIS, NO, MA'AM.

IT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS VEHICLE.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS VEHICLE IS, IS USED IN, UM, UH, CRITICAL INCIDENTS SUCH AS ACTIVE SHOOTER.

UH, THOSE ARE ALL MY QUESTIONS, CHAIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN VRAN? UH, COUNCILWOMAN SANDAL.

THANK YOU, CHAIR.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? CHIEF? YES, MA'AM.

YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

JUST A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

CAN YOU TELL US HOW OFTEN THESE VEHICLES ARE USED? THE TWO ANTI BALLISTIC VEHICLES THAT YOU DO HAVE NOW? THEY ARE USED, UH, IN JUST ABOUT EVERY SWAT CALL OUT THAT WE HAVE.

SO THAT, I MEAN, ANYTIME SWAT'S CALLED OUT, IT COULD BE TWICE A WEEK, IT COULD BE FIVE TIMES A MONTH.

UH, IT JUST DEPENDS HOW MANY TIMES WE HAVE BARRICADED TYPE BARRICADE TYPE SITUATIONS OR OTHER CRITICAL INCIDENTS INVOLVING, UM, UM, TIMES WHEN THE POLICE OFFICERS COULD BE SHOT OR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COULD BE SHOT.

OKAY.

SO YOU COULD, YOU COULD SAY JUST DEFINITLY THAT HAVING THE VEHICLES THAT YOU HAVE NOW, YOU HAVE SAVED PROBABLY A NUMBER OF OFFICERS FROM, FROM BEING INJURED? YES, MA'AM.

IT, WE, WE ACTUALLY USED ONE, UM, LAST WEEK AT, ON, UH, SSA UP IN DISTRICT, UH, EIGHT I BELIEVE IT WAS.

AND WE, THERE, THERE WAS A, A MAN ON THE SECOND FLOOR APARTMENT SHOOTING FROM HIS BALCONY INTO THE PARKING LOT.

AND WE PULLED THIS VEHICLE BETWEEN HIM OR BETWEEN THE APARTMENT AND WHERE OFFICERS WERE STAGED.

SO PROTECTING THEM FROM THE GUNFIRE.

SO IT ENABLES OFFICERS TO GET CLOSE TO A LOCATION WHERE THERE'S, WHERE THERE'S GUNFIRE COMING FROM.

OKAY.

GREAT.

AND WE'RE REPLACING THE VEHICLE THE OLDER OF THE TWO VEHICLES THAT YOU HAVE, RIGHT? YES, MA'AM.

YES.

UM, AND, UH, THE MEMO, AND, AND YOU REFER TO IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION TOO, UH, REFERS TO, UH, MAINTAINING A TIER ONE SWAT TEAM.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHY THAT'S SO IMPORTANT? WELL, IT, IT, IT ENABLES US TO, TO RECEIVE GRANT FUNDING.

UH, IF WE WERE NOT TIER ONE, WE WOULD BE LIMITED IN OUR GRANT FUNDING OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE WE DO SERVICE OTHER, OTHER AREAS OF THE, UH, OF THE COUNTY.

AND, AND ACTUALLY THE, UH, ENTIRE ACOG REGION 18, I THINK IT'S, UH, ACOG REGION 18 AREA.

OKAY.

UH, AND THE, SO DO WE HAVE SOME SORT OF, UM, M O U OR ARRANGEMENT WITH THE OTHER AREAS THAT WE SERVE? AND DO THEY CONTRIBUTE FINANCIALLY TO THIS SERVICE? WE, WE HAVE AN ARRANGEMENT.

WE HAVE MOUS WITH THOSE OTHER AREAS, GRANTS, AND ARE REGIONAL.

YEAH, THE GRANT, THE GRANTS ARE REGIONAL, SO THAT'S HOW WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE GRANT MONEY.

OH, OKAY.

AND THAT, SO THAT, THAT'S HOW WE HAVE ACCESS TO THE GRANT MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT, WHAT KIND OF REQUIRES US TO GO AND ASSIST THESE OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL.

OKAY.

I THINK YOU, YOU'RE ASKING A QUESTION THAT I ASKED.

SO THE, THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WAS PURCHASED WITH A GRANT THAT WAS PROVIDED TO THE REGION.

THE REPLACEMENT IS BEING PAID BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

ANY FUTURE GRANTS, AS WE MAINTAIN OUR TIER ONE STATUS, UM, QUALIFY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE WE ARE SERVING THE REGION.

BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION 'CAUSE I HAD THE SAME QUESTION THAT, THAT THE EQUIPMENT WAS PROVIDED TO THE CITY THROUGH A GRANT TO SERVE THE REGION.

THE REPLACEMENT IS BEING FUNDED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO.

OKAY.

YEAH.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING THE BILL FOR THE WHOLE REGION AND THAT YOU'VE ACCOUNTED, UH, FOR THAT IN, IN PURCHASING THIS.

THANK YOU, MARIA.

THANK YOU CHAIR.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL.

COUNCILMAN PERRY? YEAH.

JUST CHIEF, UH, YOU MENTIONED THE SECOND VEHICLE THAT IT'S A LARGER ONE IS, UH, WHAT'S, HOW OLD IS IT COMPARED TO THIS? THIS ONE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO REPLACE? I DID THE AGE ON THAT CALL.

I THINK IT WAS 2014, I BELIEVE.

2014, UH, IS THE OTHER ONE.

OKAY.

SO QUITE A BIT OF DIFFERENCE.

OKAY.

UM, AND I'M ASSUMING THIS WAS IN, YOU SAID THIS IS IN THE 2020 BUDGET, SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL MONEY WE'RE ASKING FOR ON THIS.

IS THIS GOING OUT FOR A COMPETITIVE BID OR DO WE GO STRAIGHT TO

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A, A MANUFACTURER TO, TO, UM, PURCHASE IT? COUNCILMAN, THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE IS BEING PURCHASED THROUGH A, WHAT WE CALL A G S A GRANT, WHICH IS A STATE GRANT THAT ALLOWS SPECIFICALLY, UH, POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE EQUIPMENT.

SO THERE'S NO COMPETITIVE BID BECAUSE THE STATE HAS ALREADY DONE THAT, UH, PROCUREMENT PROCESS FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WE AS THE MUNICIPALITY ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROCESS.

OKAY.

AND THAT WAS ONE, UH, QUESTION THAT I FORGOT TO ASK PREVIOUSLY ON THE, UH, FIRE CHIEF'S SIDE.

IS, IS THAT, DOES THAT HOLD THE SAME THERE? YES.

YES SIR.

IT'S THE SAME THING.

WE DID DO A COMPETITIVE PROCESS FOR, FOR THE FIRE, UH, MECA.

WE, UM, THE, THE MANUFACTURING TIME WAS QUITE LENGTHY, SO USING THE STATE CONTRACT, WE, WE COULD BE ABLE, IF COUNCIL APPROVED IT, TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT WITHIN A FEW WEEKS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

BUT NO, UH, THESE ARE ALREADY IN OUR 2020 BUDGET, SO THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL FUNDING REQUIRED THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S NEEDED AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO PUT AGAINST IT.

THAT IS CORRECT, COUNCILMAN.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, GREAT.

THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MAAM.

THANK YOU CHIEF.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILMAN PERRY.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO FULL COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

THANK YOU.

WITH A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

UM, JUST MY LAST QUESTION IS CHAIR OR MARIA, UM, WITH OTHER ITEMS COMING FORWARD, MAYBE A MORE MILITARIZED EQUIPMENT FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT, WILL THAT COME TO THIS COMMITTEE IN THE FUTURE OR DISCUSSION? YES, COUNCILWOMAN.

THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE BROUGHT THESE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT BECAUSE OF, UM, UH, THE TYPE OF EQUIPMENT THAT THEY ARE, THESE ARE NOT, UM, USUAL PROCUREMENT.

SO WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO BRING THEM TO THE COMMITTEE, GET YOUR INPUT BEFORE WE, UM, BRING IT TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND JUST IN THE FUTURE, WHEN IT COMES TO MORE MAYBE, UH, EQUIPMENT SUCH AS THIS, THIS IS PART OF OUR LARGER CONVERSATION WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICING, CORRECT? IT, IT COULD BE IS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE AREAS THAT WE WE'RE CONTEMPLATING, BUT AS WE BRING THIS TO THE COUNCIL, UH, WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE THAT DISCUSSION TO ADD THAT AS PART OF THE SCOPE.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT, UM, TO BE INCLUDED IN OUR BROADER CONVERSATION HERE.

SO AS WE REIMAGINE, UH, POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENTS AND HOW WE DO THIS.

UH, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

UH, THANK YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN WITH, UH, MOTION AND A SECOND.

I'LL, UH, PLEASE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

UH, MOTION PASSES.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR HARD WORK TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

UM, AND WE'RE, UH, FOR THOSE OF, I DIDN'T MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE BEGINNING, BUT WE'RE AT THE, UH, SAN ANTONIO POLICE TRAINING ACADEMY TODAY.

AND SO, UM, I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO OUR T DEPARTMENT FOR KEEPING THIS ALL TOGETHER.

UH, THANK YOU TO BOTH SS A P D AND SS A F D FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING EVERY DAY.

AND THANK YOU TO YOU FOR THE TRAINING ACADEMY, FOR HOSTING US TODAY.

AND LASTLY, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY MADE A PLAN TO VOTE, PLEASE MAKE A PLAN AND GO VOTE.

THANKS SO MUCH, EVERYBODY.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.