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          COUNCIL MEMBER ESPAN. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROJA GARCIA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER CAVEDA. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PEZ. 
          HERE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE PRESENT. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY HERE. 
          AND MAYOR NURNBERG. 
          HERE. 
          MAYOR, WE HAVE A QUORUM. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          WELCOME TO OUR CITY COUNCIL A SESSION AGENDA. 
          THE TIME IS 9:15 AM ON THIS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29TH. 
          UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START OUR SESSION TODAY WITH AN INVOCATION GUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBER JADA ANDREWS SULLIVAN, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          [1. 20-6309 Invocation]
THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. 
          WE ARE HONORED TO HAVE REVEREND KEVIN L. NELSON, WHO IS A NATIVE OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          IN 2010, PASTOR NELSON WAS AWARDED AN HONORARY DOCTORATE DEGREE FROM THE SAN ANTONIO THEOLOGICAL SCHOOL. 
          HE HAS STUDIED AT THE BEXAR COUNTY SHERIFF'S ACADEMY, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS POSTGRADUATE COURSES IN COUNSELING, AND THE MCLEAN COMMUNITY COLLEGE OF WACO, TEXAS, THE BACHELOR'S OF ARTS AND RELIGION AND SOCIOLOGY WAS RECEIVED FROM PAUL QUINN COLLEGE IN DALLAS, TEXAS, AND HE IS A GRADUATE OF THEODORE ROOSEVELT HIGH SCHOOL HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS. 
          HE WAS ORDAINED INTO THE MINISTRY ON AUGUST 27TH, 1984. 
          HE SERVED AS PASTOR OF NEW BIRTH BAPTIST CHURCH HERE IN SAN ANTONIO FOR SEVEN YEARS. 
          HE WAS A DEPUTY SHERIFF OF BEAR COUNTY DEPARTMENT FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND HE IS PRESENTLY THE PASTOR OF CALVARY BAPTIST CHURCH, WHERE HE HAS SERVED SINCE DECEMBER OF 2001. 
          HE IS A MEMBER OF THE BAPTIST MINISTER'S UNION OF SAN ANTONIO AND VICINITY PRESIDENT OF THE GUADALUPE DISTRICT BAPTIST ASSOCIATION, CONGRESS OF CHRISTIAN WORKERS, A BOARD MEMBER OF C C S A COMMUNITY OF CHURCHES FOR SOCIAL ACTION AND SERVES ON THE BOARD FOR THE BRIDGE BUILDERS AGENCIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE STATE OF TEXAS. 
          BECAUSE OF HIS TIRELESS WORK FOR THE NEEDS OF OTHERS, HE WILL BE INDUCTED INTO THE CLERGY HALL OF FAME IN 2017. 
          HE HAS MANY TITLES, BUT THE ONE HE IS MOST PROUD OF IS TO BE CALLED A CHILD OF GOD. 
          HE AND HIS WIFE CARLA, ARE PROUD PARENTS OF THEIR DAUGHTER. 
          KAYLA. 
          THANK YOU PASTOR NELSON FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. 
          LET US PRAY. 
          OUR FATHER, WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE YOUR CHILDREN AND YOU TELL US IN YOUR WORD IN EPHESIANS CHAPTER SIX, VERSE 18, THAT YOU WANT US AND DESIRE FOR US TO PRAY AT ALL TIMES AND TO PRAY IN ALL OCCASIONS. 
          AND THEN YOU TELL US IN ONE TIMOTHY CHAPTER TWO VERSES ONE AND TWO, THAT WE OUGHT TO PRAY FOR THOSE WHO GIVE LEADERSHIP OVER US. 
          AND LORD, AS WE LOOK UP TO YOU AND AS WE LOOK OUT AT OUR LEADERS, THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO'VE SHARED THE 
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BLESSED PRIVILEGE OF BEING ALIVE, SEEING ANOTHER DAY, AND BEING ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE OUR LEADERS, THEY HAVE COMMITTED AND DEDICATED THEIR LIVES TO WORKING TOWARD THE IMPROVEMENT OF THE PEOPLE OF SAN ANTONIO, OUR COMMUNITY, AND OUR SUBURBS. 
          OUR FATHER, WE FIRST WANT TO ASK THAT YOU WOULD GIVE THEM WISDOM IN GIVING LEADERSHIP TO US. 
          AND FATHER, WE HAVE SEEN YOUR HAND WORKING AND MOVING IN THE MIDST OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WE HAVE DEALT WITH THE COVID CRISIS. 
          WE'VE SEEN YOUR HAND MOVING AND WORKING IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WE HAVE DEALT WITH SOCIAL ILLS. 
          WE HAVE SEEN YOUR HAND MOVING AND WORKING IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AS WE HAVE EVEN DEALT WITH FINANCIAL SHORTFALLS. 
          YOU HAVE KEPT THINGS FROM BEING AS BAD AS THEY COULD BE. 
          SO AS CITIZENS, WE FIRST OF ALL WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, OUR FATHER, AS WE GATHER IN THIS ROOM, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF EMOTIONS. 
          THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF CONCERNS, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF ISSUES THAT WE FACE, BUT LET US GATHER AS CITIZENS. 
          LET US HA DISCUSS THE AGENDA AS FRIENDS, BUT LET US LEAVE AS BROTHERS AND SISTERS BECAUSE IN SPITE OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENCES THAT WE HAVE, IN SPITE OF ALL OF THE DISLIKES THAT WE HAVE, IN SPITE OF ALL OF THE PERSONAL OPINIONS THAT WE HAVE, ALL OF US HAVE MORE IN COMMON THAN WE HAVE THAT DIVIDE US BECAUSE ALL OF US, WE NEED AND WE WANT CARE, COMPASSION, WE WANT PEACE AND SAFETY. 
          WE ALL WANT OUR BASIC NEEDS TO BE MET. 
          SO LET US AND HELP US COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER FOR THE BETTERMENT OF SAN ANTONIO SAID SO THAT WE CAN TRULY SAY THAT WE ARE SAN ANTONIO STRONG. 
          WE ASK THIS IN THE NAME OF THE ONE WHO CALLED US OUT OF DARKNESS INTO THE MARVELOUS LIGHT. 
          AMEN 
          [2. 20-6310 Pledge of Allegiance]
TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHAT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL JUSTICE. 
          THANK YOU PASTOR NELSON. 
          [3. 20-6311 Approval of Minutes from the City Council Meetings of August 6, August 11, and August 12, 2020.]
ALL RIGHT. 
          OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY IS THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF AUGUST 6TH, 11TH AND 12TH. 
          I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THOSE MINUTES. 
          THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, AGAIN, FOR, UH, MY COLLEAGUES. 
          PLEASE, UH, MAKE SURE THE HIGHLIGHT IS ON THE FLOOR ON YOUR, SO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, CORRECT ITEM IS UP ON YOUR, ON YOUR TABLETS. 
          AND THEN YOU MAY VOTE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF THOSE MINUTES, PLEASE VOTE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR, UH, AGENDA FOR TODAY, I JUST WANNA THANK EVERYONE WHO'S HERE AGAIN FOR HELPING US TO OBSERVE, UH, PHYSICAL DISTANCING. 
          AS WE KNOW, WE ARE STILL BATTLING A PANDEMIC HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND ACROSS THE WORLD, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THESE DIVIDERS UP FOR COUNCIL SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TOGETHER THAN WE WOULD LIKE ON THE DIOCESE, BUT WE WILL BE HAVING SOME OF THE CHAIRS MARKED OFF FOR NOT SITTING IN SO WE CAN MAINTAIN THAT DISTANCE. 
          SO THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR COOPERATION. 
          WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF POINTS OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE BEFORE WE GET INTO OUR AGENDA TODAY. 
          SO LET ME TURN IT OVER NOW TO COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          SO TODAY I'D LIKE YOU TAKE SOME TIME TO CREATE AWARENESS ABOUT RETT SYNDROME. 
          IT'S A POSTNATAL NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER THAT OCCURS EXCLUSIVELY, ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY IN FEMALES AND BECOMES A PARENT AFTER SIX TO 18 MONTHS OF NORMAL EARLY DEVELOPMENT. 
          THIS MONTH, MY CONSTITUENTS, THE BONNI FAMILY, CONTACTED MY OFFICE TO ASK IF WE COULD HELP BRING AWARENESS TO THIS CRITICAL SYNDROME THAT THEIR FAMILY HAS PERSONALLY FACED. 
          ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO, THEIR 10 YEAR OLD GRANDDAUGHTER, GENEVIEVE ISABELLA, WAS DIAGNOSED WITH RETT SYNDROME. 
          THOSE AFFLICTED WITH THIS DISORDER HAVE MULTIPLE DYSFUNCTIONS 
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SPEECHES, LOST SEIZURES DEVELOPED, AND SCOLIOSIS OCCURS. 
          MANY BELLA IRREGULAR BREATHING PATTERNS, AND MORE THAN HALF OF THE GIRLS AND WOMEN LOSE THEIR ABILITY TO WALK. 
          THOSE DIAGNOSED WITH RETT SYNDROME REQUIRE MAXIMUM ASSISTANCE EVEN WITH THE MOST BASIC DAILY ACTIVITIES. 
          GENEVIEVE ISABELLA IS A SHINING STAR FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IS BELOVED BY ALL HER GRANDPARENTS, AND THE ENTIRE FAMILY ALSO HAPPENED TO BE FORMER NEIGHBORS OF MINE AND HAVE GONE TO GREAT LENGTHS TO ENSURE GENEVIEVE'S HAPPINESS. 
          THOUGH GENEVIEVE'S RED SYNDROME DIAGNOSIS HAS BROUGHT PAIN TO THE FAMILY, THEY CONTINUE TO INSPIRE US WITH THE RESILIENCE AND ABILITY TO BE JOYFUL IN EVERY MOMENT THEIR FAMILY SHARES WITH GENEVIEVE. 
          IF YOU FIND YOURSELF TONIGHT PASSING THE ALAMO DOME, BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THE PURPLE LIGHTING AND THE MARQUEE THAT IS LIT UP IN HONOR OF RENT AWARENESS. 
          YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE DISTRICT FOUR FIELD OFFICE AND PEA PARK PAVILION DRESSED UP IN PURPLE LIGHTING TONIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN TO THE BONACINI FAMILY AND GENEVIE FOR INSPIRING US AND BRINGING THIS IMPORTANT MATTER TO OUR ATTENTION. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE NOW TO, AND TO WELCOME TO OUR CHAMBERS FOR THE LAST TIME AS THE GENERAL MANAGER OF THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY, SOMEONE WHO WE'VE ENJOYED THE LEADERSHIP OF IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR OVER 13 YEARS. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, THE BEXAR COUNTY, AND MANY OTHER AGENCIES, UH, IN THE CITY, AND THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE, HAS BENEFITED FROM A VERY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY. 
          UH, AND SO IT'S MY HONOR TO WELCOME SUZANNE SCOTT, GENERAL MANAGER, UH, WHO WILL BE TAKING THE REINS AND LEADERSHIP OF THE TEXAS NATURE CONSERVANCY. 
          AND SUZANNE, WE COULDN'T BE MORE PROUD. 
          UH, SO I WOULD LIKE TO READ, UM, SUZANNE'S BIO AND ASK HER TO MAKE A FEW COMMENTS TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN SALUTE YOUR WORK. 
          SUZANNE SUZANNE SCOTT BEGAN HER CAREER WITH THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY IN MAY OF 2000, AND WAS APPOINTED GENERAL MANAGER IN SEPTEMBER OF 2007. 
          SCOTT IS RESPONSIBLE TO AN ELECTED BOARD OF DIRECTORS DIRECT SARAH'S PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS, AND MANAGES THE AGENCY'S ANNUAL BUDGET. 
          SHE OVERSEES AND WORKS WITH A TALENTED STAFF, INCLUDING ENGINEERS, SCIENTISTS, ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGERS, FIELD CREWS, AND A HOST OF OTHER PROFESSIONALS TO EXTEND THE RIVER AUTHOR'S ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP, STEWARDSHIP AND EXPERTISE, AND TO BROADEN APPRECIATION FOR THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AND ITS ECOSYSTEM. 
          UNDER SCOTT'S LEADERSHIP, THE RIVER AUTHORITY HAS ADVANCED ITS MISSION TO INSPIRE ACTIONS FOR HEALTHY CREEKS AND RIVERS WITHIN THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER WATERSHED. 
          AND BY WORKING CLOSELY WITH A MULTITUDE OF GOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS, CITIZEN STAKEHOLDERS, AND PRIVATE SECTOR CONTRIBUTORS, THE RIVER AUTHORITIES' WORK CONTINUES TO ADVANCE THE COMMUNITY'S APPRECIATION FOR THE NETWORK OF CREEKS AND RIVERS AS VITAL RESOURCES TO QUALITY OF LIFE WITHIN THE REGION. 
          SHE HAS LED THE AGENCY'S EFFORTS TO PLAN, DEVELOP, AND SECURE FUNDING FOR THE $384 MILLION SAN ANTONIO RIVER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT IN BEXAR COUNTY THAT ENHANCED ACCESS TO AND RESTORATION OF 13 MILES OF THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER. 
          THE PROJECT ADDED MILES OF HIKE, BIKE, AND PADDLING TRAILS TO THE RIVER WHILE RESTORING THE ENVIRONMENTAL ENVIRONMENT AND CREATING MORE APPRECIATION AND VALUE FOR THIS TREASURED NATURAL RESOURCE. 
          THE COMPLETION OF THE RIVER'S RESTORATION SERVED AS A KEY FAST DESCRIPTION OF THE SAN ANTONIO MISSIONS AS AN UNESCO WORLD HERITAGE SITE. 
          IN JULY, 2015, THE SUCCESS OF THE RIVER IMPROVEMENT PROJECT SERVED AS A CATALYST FOR THE INVESTMENT BY BEAR COUNTY AND THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          IN THE ONGOING $264 MILLION TRANSFORMATION OF THE SAN PEDRO CREEK INTO THE SAN PEDRO CREEK CULTURE PARK, THE FIRST PHASE OF THE CULTURE PARK OPENED IN MAY OF 2018 IN CELEBRATION OF THE CITY'S TRICENTENNIAL. 
          IN ADDITION TO THE ENHANCING FLOOD CONTROL AND REVITALIZING THE NATURAL HABITAT, THE PARK ALSO RECONNECTS THE COMMUNITY TO A PLACE OF GREAT HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE THROUGH THE CREATION OF A WORLD-CLASS LINEAR PARK REFLECTING THE UNIQUE CULTURAL HERITAGE OF THE COMMUNITY. 
          THE PARK WILL BE COMPLETED IN PHASES OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS. 
          AND THE LEGACY OF INVESTMENT IN SAN ANTONIO RIVER AND ITS WATERSHED WAS RECENTLY RECOGNIZED WITH THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER'S RECEIPT OF THE PRESTIGIOUS PIECE, UM, INTERNATIONAL RIVER PRIZE. 
          SCOTT IS EQUALLY PROUD OF THE LASTING IMPROVEMENTS OF THE RIVER AUTHORITY HAS MADE IN THE HEALTH AND APPRECIATION OF THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER THROUGH ITS NATIONALLY ACCREDITED WA WATER QUALITY LABORATORY, THE CREATION OF NA NATURE PARKS AND PADDLING TRAILS THROUGHOUT THE AGENCIES FOUR COUNTY DISTRICT, THE DISTRICT'S TECHNICAL, THE DISTRICT'S TECHNICAL EXPERTISE IN FLOOD PLANNING AND MITIGATION PROJECTS, AND ITS SCIENCE-BASED PROGRAMS TO PROMOTE SUSTAINABILITY THROUGHOUT THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER BASIN BY ADVOCATING 
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FOR AND FUNDING PROJECTS TO INCREASE USE OF LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT AND OTHER GREEN STORM WATER INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS. 
          SCOTT HAS A REGIONAL WATER LEADER SERVING AS A CHAIR FOR THE SOUTH CENTRAL TEXAS REGIONAL WATER PLANNING GROUP, AND THE GUADALUPE AND SAN ANTONIO RIVERS BAY AND BASIN AREA STAKEHOLDER GROUP, THE RIVER AUTHORITIES LEADERSHIP AND FLOOD MANAGEMENT AND ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION HAS SCOTT SPEAKING FREQUENTLY ON HOW TO BEST MANAGE RIVERS IN A RAPIDLY GROWING URBANIZED BASIN. 
          SHE WAS RAISED IN SAN ANTONIO NEAR THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER, AND HER LOVE FOR THE RIVER'S ECOSYSTEM SERVES AS A STRONG MOTIVATOR FOR HER WORK TO CONNECT THE COMMUNITY TO THESE RESOURCES FOR ENJOYMENT, WHILE IN TURN DEVELOPING A SENSE OF PRIDE AND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO, TOWARD THE NEED TO PROTECT OUR WATERWAYS. 
          SUZANNE, ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE CITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR STRONG STEWARDSHIP AND LEADERSHIP OVER THESE LAST TWO DECADES. 
          WE LOOK FORWARD TO A GREAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TEXAS NATURE CONSERVANCY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH, UH, FOR THE RECOGNITION TODAY. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. 
          UH, THIS IS A BITTERSWEET TIME FOR ME. 
          I'VE REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK ON AT THE SAN ANTONIO RIVER AUTHORITY AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, INCLUDING MANY, MANY LEADERS HERE AT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          YOU HAVE A FABULOUS STAFF THAT HAS BEEN SO COLLABORATIVE ON SO MANY ISSUES WITH US OVER THE YEARS. 
          I JUST, UM, I'VE BEEN SO PROUD OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH TOGETHER, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE NATURE CONSERVANCY. 
          I FEEL THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY EXPAND MY ABILITY TO THINK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND ADDRESS ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES ON A STATEWIDE BASIS. 
          AND I'M JUST GONNA TAKE WHAT I'VE LEARNED HERE AND, UH, SHARE IT WITH PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THE STATE AND ALSO, OF COURSE, LEARN A LOT ABOUT OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES OTHER THAN JUST RIVERS. 
          AND, UH, SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT THAT OPPORTUNITY, BUT THIS HAS JUST BEEN A TREMENDOUS, UM, UH, JUST SENSE OF PRIDE FOR ME, UH, TO SEE PEOPLE ENJOYING THE RIVER MORE SO TODAY THAN THEY DID WHEN I STARTED AT THE RIVER AUTHORITY. 
          AND WHEN I BECAME GENERAL MANAGER. 
          EVERY TIME I LOOK OUT AT MY WINDOW THERE, UH, IN THE KING WILLIAM AREA, OR I GO DOWN ON THE MISSION OR THE MUSEUM OR REACH, AND I SEE PEOPLE ENJOYING THE RESOURCE THAT AS, AS A PUBLIC SERVANT GIVES ME, THE GREATEST SENSE OF PRIDE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE OUT THERE ENJOYING THIS RESOURCE. 
          SO, AND THAT IS A TRIBUTE TO YOU AND YOUR LEADERSHIP AND YOUR FUNDING OVER THE YEARS. 
          AND ALL I CAN SAY IS A HEARTFELT GRATITUDE. 
          AND THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, SUZANNE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I'M GONNA MISS YOU, BUT I'M SO GLAD THAT THE NATURE CONSERVANCY IS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH YOU. 
          I ADMIRE SO MUCH THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE AND, UM, BEST WISHES. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KURAGE. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR SUZANNE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC IS AWARE NOT ONLY OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AND IN TEXAS, BUT REALLY THE ACCOMPLISHMENT ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE RIVER AUTHORITY IN DEALING WITH OTHER COUNTRIES. 
          YES. 
          YOU KNOW, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO WITH SOME OF YOUR STAFF TO CHINA TO TALK WITH THEM ABOUT HOW THEY WANNA DEVELOP THEIR RIVER SYSTEM. 
          AND, UH, YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS REALLY SHOWN, UH, SOME REAL LEADERSHIP IN THAT AREA, UH, NOT JUST HERE LOCALLY, BUT AROUND THE WORLD, AND I JUST WANTED PEOPLE TO RECOGNIZE THAT AND, AND YOUR LEADERSHIP WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THAT ORGANIZATION. 
          SO BEST WISHES GOING FORWARD. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH, SUZANNE, FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK. 
          YOU HAVE AN INCREDIBLE TEAM SURROUNDING YOU THAT ARE DEDICATED AND COMMITTED, AND IT ALSO STARTS WITH LEADERSHIP. 
          SO THANK YOU, SUZANNE, FOR WORKING TOGETHER. 
          THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF COLLABORATION AND DREAMING VERY BIG AND WORKING VERY HARD TO GET, UM, REIMBURSED FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALL OF THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE. 
          UM, FOR ALL OF THE PLANS THAT WE'VE MADE FOR THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, FOR OUR CREEKWAY SYSTEM, FOR OUR SAN PEDRO CREEK, FOR OUR ECOSYSTEM. 
          I I'M SHARING THE STORY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, MAYOR, UM, GOING DOWN ON THE MISSION REACH THIS TWO WEEKS AGO, SEEING FOXES. 
          MM-HMM. 
           SEEING TURKEYS ALL IN AROUND THIS AREA, SO IT'S PART OF US WORKING TOGETHER, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, SUZANNE. 
          A HIGHLANDS HIGH SCHOOL. 
          GRIME. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          UM, S A S D DISTRICT THREE. 
          YES. 
          SO CONGRATULATIONS AND MANY MORE SUCCESSES. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, WE KNOW YOU'RE NOT MOVING PHYSICALLY FAR, UH, SUZANNE, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING OVER AT YOUR OFFICE AND HAVING YOU IN THESE CHAMBERS IN A DIFFERENT CAPACITY. 
          THANK FOR ALL YOU DO. 
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THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          THANK YOU, SUZANNE. 
          THANKS. 
          HAVE A GOOD MEETING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          MOVING NOW 
          [Consent Agenda]
TO OUR CONSENT AGENDA TODAY. 
          UH, I HAVE ONE ITEM, UH, PULLED FROM THE AGENDA FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION. 
          THAT'S ITEM 32. 
          UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS, UH, MY COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO PULL FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION? OKAY, IF THERE ARE NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THAT'S ALL ITEM SAY FOR ITEM 32. 
          SO MOVED. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE'S A MOTION BY KURDS AND A SECOND BY ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          WE DO HAVE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SAYING ON CONSENT, UH, AS WELL AS COUNSEL DISCUSSION. 
          SO, UM, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE CITIZENS FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO OUR, OUR COUNSEL DISCUSSION. 
          UH, WE HAVE TWO, EXCUSE ME, THREE CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT. 
          UM, WE'LL START WITH LAURA ZAMORA, FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER BETH SPEAKING ON ITEM FOUR. 
          I'LL BE SPEAKING ON ITEM 32. 
          OKAY. 
          WE HAD YOU DOWN FOR THE WRONG ITEM, SO I'LL KEEP YOU ON FOR ITEM 32, THEN I'LL CALL YOU UP AT THAT TIME. 
          UH, IS CHRISTOPHER BETH HERE? I HAVE YOU LISTED AS ITEM FOUR. 
          HE'S ALSO, HE WAS GONNA CALL IN. 
          HE'S ALSO ON 32 ALSO. 
          ON 32. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, JACK FINGER SPEAKING ON MULTIPLE ITEMS, YOU JUST STAND IN THE SQUARE SEAT. 
          WELL, MAYOR NURENBERG AND OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR ILLUSTRIOUS SAN ANTONIO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS JACK M FINGER. 
          A FEW ITEMS I WISH TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION ON THIS PORTION OF THE AGENDA. 
          YES, THE STARTING WITH ITEM NUMBER, ITEM NUMBER 36, IT'S NO'S APPROVING SUBSTANTIAL AMENDMENT TO THE ACTION PLAN AND BUDGET TO REPROGRAM COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS THE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 4 MILLION, $4 MILLION SET ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE RENTAL AND HOME OWNERSHIP HOUSING DEVELOPMENT TO THE C OVID 19 EMERGENCY HOUSING ASSISTANCE PROGRAM. 
          YES. 
          UM, I, UH, I LOOK AT THIS, I SEE WHEN I SEE THE WORD AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND IT REMINDS ME OF THE WORD WELFARE HOUSING. 
          AND I, LOOKING AT, AT THE BA BACKUP DOCUMENTS, I NOTICED, UH, THE, THESE, UH, IMPORTANT, UH, INFORMATION MR. CIO. 
          MA'AM, WOULD YOU PLEASE, UH, SHOW THAT ON, ON THE SCREEN THERE IF YOU WOULD, THERE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE? YEAH. 
          IT'S KIND OF BLEACHED OUT A LITTLE BIT, BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE WORDS, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH, DEVELOPMENT TO GET GAP FUNDING AND SO FORTH. 
          SECOND PARAGRAPH, IT SHOWS, UH, FUNDING WILL BE UTILIZED TO, TO ASSIST AFFORDABLE HOUSEHOLDS WHOSE INCOME ARE 80%, UH, BELOW THE, THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          PLEASE RETURN THE CAMERA TO THE POET TO THE, THIS MICROPHONE, IF YOU WOULD. 
          YES. 
          I GUESS IN OTHER WORDS, OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING TO HELP WELFARE HOUSING ASSISTANCE IF THEY'RE NOT LOCAL TAX DOLLARS. 
          THEY'RE CERTAINLY FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS. 
          AND THE ONE BIG QUESTION THAT DOES ARISE IS THE PERSONS WHO ARE RECEIVING THE BENEFITS OF ALL THIS, HAS ANYBODY EVER VETTED THEM TO FIND OUT IF THEY'RE ACTUALLY HERE IN THE COUNTRY? LEGALLY? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, WHY NOT? I MEAN, IF OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE GOING FOR IT, DON'T WE DESERVE TO HAVE LEGAL CITIZENS RECEIVING THESE BENEFITS INSTEAD OF VERSUS ILLEGAL ALIENS? I, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY AFFIRMATIVE RESPONSES ON THAT IN, IN ALL THE YEARS. 
          WE'LL BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT. 
          SO I, UH, I  GUESS ONE MORE BOONDOGGLE ON ITS WAY THERE. 
          UH, ALSO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 33 APPROVING THE, UH, THE APPOINTMENT OF, UH, MS. MS. PATRICIA HAEL TO THE BROOKS DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD. 
          ONCE AGAIN, MS. MS. HAEL, I THINK WAS ONE OF THE LEADERS OVER AT THE SAN ANTONIO WATER SYSTEM SAWS, WHO I THINK WAS ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR A NUMBER OF OUR RATE INCREASES. 
          UH, OVER THERE. 
          WONDER WHICH IF SHE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER BOONDOGGLES AS TIME GOES BY THERE? YES. 
          OH, UH, TIME IS UP. 
          SO MANY SCAFFOLDS. 
          THANK YOU MR. FINGER. 
          SO LITTLE TIME. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
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THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I REALLY JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS IN THE, UH, CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UM, ESPECIALLY THE 336,000 FOR OUR HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT SERVICES OUTREACH. 
          UM, THAT WILL DEFINITELY BE USED WISELY TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SECURING THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE. 
          UM, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS A COMPASSIONATE CITY, AND WE DO NOT WANT TO LEAVE ANYONE OUT, UM, AS WE ARE PROVIDING RESOURCES TO OUR COMMUNITY. 
          ALSO, THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE, FOR SAM HOUSTON, I S D ON THEIR NEW ROADWAY, UM, WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING BETTER IMPROVED ROADS, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR STUDENTS. 
          AND THEN ALSO KNOWING THAT WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT TWO AREA TO KNOW THAT WE NOW HAVE A DRAINAGE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, UH, WITHIN THE NEW CITY BLOCKS, UM, WITHIN THE DISTRICT TWO FOR H E B. 
          UM, THOSE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS MORNING. 
          MAYOR, THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          YES. 
          I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND CELEBRATE THE APPOINTMENT OF PAT HASSO TO THE BROOKS, UH, DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD. 
          WE TOOK HER OFF OF ONE AND NOW SHE'S JUMPING ONTO ANOTHER. 
          SO HAPPY TO HAVE HER THERE, AS WELL AS A GEORGINA HOSA DISTRICT THREE RESIDENT TO THE ETHICS REVIEW BOARD. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK CITY STAFF AND EVERYONE WORKING VERY HARD ON ITEM NUMBER 28, THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT APPLICATION SUBMISSION AND ACCEPTANCE WHEN WE GET IT, UM, FOR OUR PARKS SPECIFICALLY, UH, DISTRICT THREE PARK KINGSBOROUGH. 
          SO VERY PROUD OF, OF THIS, UM, ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER AS WITH OUR COMMUNITY. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY HIGHLIGHTS. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VERAN. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, THAT IS EVERYONE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON ITEMS REMAINING ON CONSENT. 
          UH, AND THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, UM, FOR THIS ITEM. 
          UH, SO THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR, UH, APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THAT'S ALL ITEMS SAFE FOR ITEM SEVEN. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          ITEM 32, PLEASE VOTE. 
          EXCUSE ME, MA'AM. 
          UH, HANG ON ONE SECOND. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBER, PIA, YOU'RE NOT APPEARING ON THE SCREEN. 
          DID YOU, DID YOU WANT TO DISCUSS, UH, THE CONSENT AGENDA? YES, I JUST WANTED TO HIGH LIKE ONE. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          UH, IF WE CAN, UM, I'LL, I'LL CALL THE VOTE IN JUST A MINUTE. 
          LET ME GIVE COUNCIL MEMBER PIA THE, THE FLOOR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          JUST VERY, VERY, VERY QUICKLY MENTION THAT THERE A, THERE'S TWO ITEMS, UH, AND THAT 18 A AND, UH, I'M LOOKING I THE MOST IMPORTANT DO TODAY. 
          AND WE JUST SENT, BUT WHERE TO POINT OUT, THIS IS A CONTRACT, UM, STREET , UM, ROUGHLY DOLLARS. 
          UH, BUT WE'RE TO J AND P GAVE ME, UM, WHY IS BECAUSE HE'S A LOCAL AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AS WE  TO WHATEVER WE CAN HELP OUR LOCAL , UH, UH, TO COVID CONTINUE TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESS. 
          AND THANK YOU ABOUT BRINGING THIS TO MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PEZ. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE WERE HAVING A LITTLE BIT OF TROUBLE WITH YOUR AUDIO, BUT, BUT I THINK WE GOT MOST OF THAT. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          UM, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM, OR EXCUSE ME, APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          ITEMS SAFE FOR 32. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT, WE WILL MOVE NOW TO 
          [32. 20-6042 Ordinance amending Chapter 5 entitled “Animals” and Chapter 20 entitled “Municipal Court” of the City Code to regulate the retail sale of pets, expand eligibility for the animal care compliance assistance account, provide updates consistent with the strategic priorities of Animal Care Services, and establish penalties. [David McCary, Assistant City Manager; Heber Lefgren, Director, Animal Care Services]]
ITEM 32. 
          ITEM 32 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER FIVE ENTITLED ANIMALS AND CHAPTER 20 ENTITLED MUNICIPAL COURT OF THE CITY CODE TO REGULATE THE RETAIL SALE OF PETS, EXPAND ELIGIBILITY FOR THE ANIMAL CARE COMPLIANCE ASSISTANCE ACCOUNT, PROVIDE UPDATES CO WITH THE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES OF ANIMAL CARE SERVICES AND ESTABLISHED PENALTIES. 
          ALRIGHT, IS THERE A, UH, STAFF PRESENTATION? UM, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO BE HERE, UH, 
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TO PRESENT TO YOU, UH, THE RESEARCH AND THE FINDINGS THAT WE, THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS UNDERGONE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST TWO YEARS. 
          UH, BEFORE I BEGIN MY PRESENTATION, I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST RECOGNIZE A FEW INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE HERE, UH, WITH US TODAY. 
          FIRST, WE HAVE RITA BROGAN, WHO IS SERVES AS THE, UH, REPRESENTATIVE FOR DISTRICT FOUR, BUT ALSO IS THE, UH, A C S ADVISORY BOARD CHAIR. 
          UH, WITH HER, WE ALSO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM THE DISTRICT SIX, KATHY DAVIS, DISTRICT EIGHT, UH, KATIE JAR MCCOYLE, UH, DISTRICT SEVEN, VALERIE MOORE. 
          AS WELL AS I'VE RECEIVED CONFIRMATION THAT WE HAVE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE ADVISORY BOARD, UH, WATCHING SAFELY FROM HOME. 
          UM, AND SO I APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE THEIR SUPPORT AND RECOGNIZE THEM. 
          UH, ALSO, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, WHILE THEY, UH, ARE ALSO, WHILE THEY ARE A PART OF THE A C S ADVISORY BOARD, BOTH KATHY DA OR KATHY DAVIS SERVES AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTOR PRESIDENT FOR THE TEXAS HUMANE LEGISLATIVE NETWORK, AS WELL AS KATIE JAR COYLE, WHO WORKS AS THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES, WHO PROVIDED A LOT OF INPUT ALONG THE WAY AND, AND PROVIDED INSIGHT AS FOR WHAT'S GOING ON ON A GLOBAL PERSPECTIVE AND A NATIONAL PERSPECTIVE. 
          UH, LAST, BEFORE I BEGIN THIS PRESENTATION, I WANNA RECOGNIZE, UH, THOSE THAT ARE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE WHO HAVE COMMENTS AND FEELINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS AND RECOGNIZE THAT WHILE WE MAY NOT AGREE, I DO APPRECIATE THE CIVILITY THAT HAS BEEN OFFERED TO ME, UM, AS WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS OVER THE COURSE OF THE, UH, EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME AND APPRECIATE THEM, UM, AND APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE, THE ANIMAL COMMUNITY, UH, AND EXTEND THE INVITATION FOR EVERYBODY TO BE, UH, UH, TO BE CIVIL, UH, IN THE CONVERSATIONS. 
          SO THE PRESENTATION, UM, SURE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THE PRESENTATION, UH, WE STARTED THIS DISCUSSION STARTED IN 2000, AND WITH, UH, 2019, UH, WHEN I PRESENTED TO MY CITY, UH, MY BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WHERE WE PROPOSED THE IDEA OF LOOKING INTO THE, UH, LOOKING INTO THE CHAIN, MAKING CHANGES TO THE CITY CODE REGARDING THE, THE CELL OF PETS, UM, UH, HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, THROUGHOUT 2000, UH, IN THE, IN THAT FISCAL YEAR, WE ISSUED SURVEYS, UH, WHICH RESULTED IN ME PRESENTING A BRIEF FINDINGS TO THE CITY COUNCIL IN MY 2000, UH, 20 BUDGET, AT WHICH POINT I RECOMMENDED THAT WE WOULD TAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS FORWARD AND PRESENT THEM. 
          UM, OUR SHOW, OUR RESEARCH SHOW THAT THE RESTRICTIONS CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTED, UH, WITHIN THE CHAPTER FIVE, UH, FOR INDIVIDUAL PET PET CELLS, ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THOSE THAT ARE IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT THE NATION IN OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          HOWEVER, THE FRAMEWORK ASSOCIATED WITH THE RETAIL PET CELLS, UH, VARIED. 
          UH, WE FOUND THAT OVER 380 CITIES PASSED RESTRICTIONS OR BANS ON THE RETAIL CELL OF DOGS AND CATS, AND THAT MANY OF THE LARGEST ANIMAL WELFARE ORGANIZATIONS IN THE NATIONS SUPPORTED A MORE AGGRESSIVE RESTRICTIONS ON THE RETAIL, UH, ESTABLISHMENT DUE TO THE WIDELY ACCEPTED HUMANE BREEDING PRACTICES, UH, THAT GO ON IN MANY WHOLESALE BREEDERS, UH, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS PUPPY MILLS. 
          UM, IT IS RECOGNIZED THAT WHILE, UH, NEARLY EVERY ORGANIZATION ACKNOWLEDGES THE INHUMANE PRACTICES THAT ARE GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE NATION, UM, IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT IS, UH, THAT THE ABILITY TO REGULATE THIS, PARTICULARLY FROM THE CITY SIDE, BECOMES VERY IMPOSSIBLE, UH, TO ENFORCE. 
          UM, AS WELL AS THAT BEHAVIOR, UM, HAS BEEN LEFT UNCHECKED IN SOME CASES, UH, AND DEMONSTRATED THAT EVEN GOOD PET OWNERS WHO ARE, OR PET STORES WHO ARE WANTING TO DO THE RIGHT THINGS, OFTENTIMES FIND THEMSELVES ALONG THE WAY REALIZING THAT, UH, THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH IN THE PAST SOME OF THE BAD ACTORS. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SAN ANTONIO, UH, THERE ARE ABOUT THREE, SO YOUR INFORMATION, THERE ARE THREE PET STORES IN SAN ANTONIO THAT SELL CATS AND DOGS AS PART OF THEIR, UH, LOCAL BUSINESS MODEL. 
          UH, THAT RATIO IS VERY SIMILAR, UH, THROUGHOUT THE NATION, WHERE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES, UM, DO NOT SELL THE PETS WITHIN THE LOCAL PET STORES. 
          UH, THIS DOES DEMONSTRATE THAT THERE ARE MODELS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PROFITABILITY. 
          UH, IN FACT, ONE STUDY, UH, FROM A, UH, ONE STUDY INDICATED THAT STORES THAT SOLD PETS, UH, STORES THAT DID NOT SELL PETS WITHIN THEIR STORES, MADE A 64% PROFIT ABOVE, UH, PER SQUARE FOOT UPON, UH, UH, ANY OPPOSED TO THOSE STORES THAT THAT DID SELL PETS. 
          UH, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT AS WE LOOKED AT IT, THAT MOST OF THE PU PUPPIES BEING STORED SOLD AT PET STORES ARE COMING FROM OUT OF STATE, UH, PUPPY MILLS OR LARGE BREEDERS OR, OR BROKERS THAT PASS THE INF OR PASS THE PETS ON FROM ONE STATE TO ANOTHER STATE. 
          AND THAT WHILE, UM, MANY OF THESE STORES ARE U S D A, UH, UH, INDI HAVE U S D A LICENSES 
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AND ARE APPROVED, UH, IT IS CLEAR THAT THOSE STANDARDS FOR U SS D A IS EVEN BELOW THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO STANDARDS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, U SS D A, UH, STANDARDS DO ALLOW A BREEDER TO CONFINE A DOG INTO A CAGE FOR ITS LIFE THAT IS SIX INCHES, UH, THAT IS SIX INCHES MORE THAN THE SIZE OF THE PET. 
          UM, I, I, I ADMIT THAT THERE ARE BREEDERS OUT THERE THAT DO NOT, THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE PET STORES, LOCAL PET STORES, UH, EFFORTS TO TRY TO MAKE SURE, BUT IT IS CLEAR THAT BY THE NUMBER OF PET STORES, OR BY THE NUMBER OF PUPPY MILLS AND BY THE NUMBER OF BREEDERS THAT ARE NOT IN SAN ANTONIO, THAT THAT BECOMES VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO ENSURE THAT THE HIGHER STANDARDS OF THE, UH, PRACTICES ARE BEING ENFORCED. 
          UH, OUR OUR RESEARCH INDICATED THAT PET STORES, UM, OH, ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, WE'VE ALSO IDENTIFIED THAT ACROSS THE NATION AS, AS CITIES HAVE TRIED TO DEAL WITH HOW THEY CAN, UH, HOW THEY CAN PLAY A ROLE IN THE SOLUTION THEY'VE IDENTIFIED ACROSS THE NATION THAT THE BANNING OR RESTRICTING PET STILLS, UM, HAVE BEEN TAKING PLACE ACROSS THE NATION, UH, OVER THE DECADE, UH, IN THE MODELS THAT HAVE CREATED, IN REALITY FOR A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, THERE ARE REALLY THREE MODELS THAT HAVE TESTED THE TIME AND HAVE BEEN PROVED TO BE, UH, A AVAILABLE FOR THE CITIES. 
          UH, THE FIRST MODEL IS THAT THEY, THAT THE CITY DOES NOT REGULATE THE, THE PET STORES, OR AT LEAST THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE PETS ARE COMING FROM AND FOCUS THEIR REGULATION ON THE PROPER CARE AND HANDLING WHILE THEY ARE IN THE CITY. 
          UH, THE SECOND MODEL, UH, PROHIBITS THE CELL OF PETS ALTOGETHER. 
          WHILE THE THIRD MODEL, UH, RESTRICTS THE PETS, UH, THAT DO NOT COME FROM SHELTERS OR RESCUES, UM, OF THAT ARE LICENSED. 
          UM, AGAIN, THERE ARE A LOT OF OPTIONS AND A LOT OF ALTERNATIVES OUT THERE. 
          BUT IN WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND IN CONSULTATION, UH, THE CITY, UH, THE WAY THAT THE CITY IS SET UP IS NOT SET UP, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GOVERN AND TO REGULATE THIS, UH, PUPPY, UH, BREEDERS. 
          UM, THAT IS THE ROLE THAT THE STATE PLAYS, UH, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, HOWEVER, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN EVIDENCE THAT A COMMUNITY DOES HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT THE SOURCE OF PETS DO MATTER. 
          UH, THE CONDITION OF WHERE THOSE PETS COME FROM DOES MATTER, AND TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE, UH, OR TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE BY SAYING THAT WE WILL NOT AS A CITY PARTICIPATE IN THE, UM, IN THAT TYPE OF, THAT TYPE OF BEHAVIOR. 
          SO, I WANNA TAKE A MOMENT AND SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT WE DID TO BE ABLE TO GET ENGAGEMENT AND SUPPORT, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THIS IS A QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP BY A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS. 
          AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING, WE STARTED THIS BY, AND WE INTRODUCED THIS, UH, AS PART OF MY BUDGET PROCESS, AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS IN, IN 2000, IN THE FY 2019, UM, BUDGET. 
          WE WENT THROUGH THE YEAR TO KIND OF, UH, SEEK THE INPUT, AND IN JULY, WE ISSUED OUT OUR INITIAL, UH, ESSAY SPEAK UP SURVEY, WHICH I'LL SPEAK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL IN A LITTLE BIT LATER. 
          WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS TOPIC TO OUR A C S ADVISORY BOARD, AS WELL AS ON TWO OCCASIONS TO THE, THE CHECK COMMITTEE. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, WE WENT BACK TO OUR BOARD, UH, EACH ALL THE WHILE PROVIDING UPDATES. 
          AS I MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE TWO, UM, TWO MOMENTS WHERE WE, WE UTILIZE THE CITY'S AS THEY SPEAK UP, UH, PLATFORM TO BE ABLE TO SEEK INPUT. 
          I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT MY GOAL IN BOTH OF THOSE SITUATIONS, IN BOTH OF THOSE SURVEYS WAS TO BE ABLE TO REACH AS MANY INDIVIDUALS AS WE POSSIBLY CAN, AS WELL AS TO ENSURE THAT THE VOICES THAT ARE BEING HEARD IS A DIVERSE GROUP OF, OF VOICES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          UH, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, IT IS TRUE THAT WE UTILIZE SOME OF THE, UM, NETWORKS AND SOME OF OUR, UH, EMAILS THAT WE HAD WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION TO BE ABLE TO DISSEMINATE THAT, DISSEMINATE THAT INFORMATION. 
          BUT WE ALSO UTILIZED MORE TRADITIONAL METHODS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INFORMATION WAS BEING SENT OUT SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT INCLUDE UTILIZING TRADITIONAL MEDIA. 
          UH, WE, THERE WERE STORIES THAT WERE RUN FROM KSAT, W A I K A B B, KENS FIVE TELEMUNDO, AS WELL AS THE EXPRESS NEWS. 
          WE ALSO, UH, UTILIZED PAID MEDIA, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SEND THAT OUT, SEND THE REQUEST OUT FOR PARTICIPATION. 
          UM, I, WE, I JOKE BECAUSE, OR I HAVE TWO, TWO OF MY ADVISORY BOARD BOARD MEMBERS THAT WHEN THESE, UH, SENT OUT, THEY REACH OUT BACK TO ME AND SAYS, HEY, HEBER, WHY AM I HEARING ABOUT THIS? 
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ABOUT THE RELEASE OF THIS FROM, NOT FROM AN EMAIL FROM YOU. 
          UH, WE ALSO UTILIZE DIGITAL MEDIA. 
          UH, IN ADDITION TO OUR INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK, AND OUR A C S WEBSITE. 
          WE UTILIZE THE SA SPEAK UP WEBSITE. 
          WE UTILIZE NEXTDOOR AND SEND MESSAGES THROUGH THE NEXTDOOR APP, UM, AS WELL AS, AGAIN, PAID, PAID TO HAVE SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, HIGHLIGHT AND RECOGNIZE THAT THROUGH OTHER, UH, OTHER SOURCES. 
          SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE IMPACT AND THE LESSONS THAT WE LEARNED, UM, WE ARE PROPOSING AND THE, WE ARE PROPOSING SOME CHANGES. 
          THE FIRST, AND IT CAN BE CATEGORIZED INTO THREE CATEGORIES. 
          IT CAN BE CATEGORIZED IN THE, THE, THE CELL OF PETS. 
          IT CAN BE CATEGORIZED INTO, UM, CHANGES BEING MADE TO CHAPTER 20 FOR, UM, OUR ASSISTANT FUND AND THEN ALSO SOME GENERAL. 
          AND THEN THIRD ARE GENERAL CHANGES IN REGARDS TO THE CELL OF PETS. 
          WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THAT, UM, THAT NEW RETAIL, THAT DOGS AND CAT CELLS BE RESTRICTED, UH, WHERE THEY CAN ONLY BE SOURCED BY LICENSED FROM SHELTER, ANIMAL CONTROL AGENCY, OR A LICENSED RESCUE ORGANIZATION, AND THAT THOSE PETS NEED TO BE, UH, STERILIZED, MICROCHIPPED, IMMUNE, AND FREE OF PARASITES. 
          UH, A LOT OF THOSE SERVICES ARE ALREADY BEING PROVIDED AND WOULD BE CONTINUED TO BE PROVIDED BY ANY OF THE LICENSED RESCUE GROUPS. 
          UM, WE ARE ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT WE HAVE A NEED WITHIN THE COMMUNITY TO HELP CONTROL THE BACKYARD BREEDERS. 
          UH, WE LOOKED AT OUR LAWS AND IDENTIFIED THAT THE LAWS ARE, UH, ARE, UH, VERY SIMILAR TO SOME OF THE BEST IN THE NATION. 
          UM, HOWEVER, WE RECOGNIZED THAT ONE OF THE DEFICITS THAT WE HAD, THAT AS WE WERE ISSUE CITATION TO PEOPLE SELLING ON THE ROADSIDE, THAT THEY CONSIDERED THOSE CITATIONS AS PART OF DOING BUSINESS. 
          AND SO WE ARE PROPOSING THAT WE INCREASE THE, THE MIN, UH, THE MINIMUM FINE FOR ALL PET CELL OFFENSES, UM, AGAIN TO INCLUDE ROADSIDE, UM, ILLEGAL CELL, NOT HAVING THE PROPER PERMITS FROM $100 TO $500 IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO HELP INCENTIVIZE INDIVIDUALS TO DO THE RIGHT THING. 
          UH, SECONDLY, UH, WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CELLAR PERMITS WILL REQUIRE STERILIZATION IF THEY ARE FOUND IN VIOLATION. 
          AND SO THAT MEANS THAT IF WE GO TO A SITUATION WHERE THERE'S A BACKYARD BREEDER WHO IS NOT FOLLOWING THE HUMANE STANDARDS, THAT THE ORDINANCE GIVES US THE AUTHORITY TO REQUIRE THAT THOSE PETS BE SPAYED AND NEUTERED. 
          UH, FINALLY, THE SELLER'S PERMITS, UM, UH, THAT THE SELLER PERMITS ARE ONLY FOR THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE SELLING, UH, FROM THEIR HOME. 
          UM, IT IS NOT OUR INTENT TO REDUCE THE ABILITY FOR SOMEBODY TO BE ABLE TO GOOD BREEDER TO BE ABLE TO BREED. 
          WE ARE JUST SIMPLY ASKING THEM TO DO IT IN A RESPONSIBLE AND HUMANE MANNER AS REQUIRED WITHIN THE CITY CODE. 
          UH, AS I MENTIONED THE SECOND, THE SECOND CHANGE IN CATEGORIES OF CHANGE ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLIANCE ARE A COMPLIANCE, UH, ASSISTANT ACCOUNT THAT WAS CREATED IN 2018. 
          UH, THIS ACCOUNT WAS CREATED IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ASSIST THOSE WHO CANNOT, UM, COMPLY BY PROVIDING RESOURCES SO THAT THEY CAN BE IN COMPLIANT WITH THE HUMANE LAWS OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, THE CHANGES ARE MINOR CHANGES, BUT THEY ARE INTENDED TO ALLOW US TO EXPAND THE RESOURCES SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE AS AN OFFERING AND UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS FOR BASIC THINGS SUCH AS SPAY AND NEUTER MICROCHIPS OR VACCINATIONS. 
          UM, IT ALSO ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO, UM, INCREASE THE AC S'S AUTHORITY TO REGULATE THE USE OF THOSE FUNDS SO THAT WE CAN GET IT INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT NEED IT THE MOST. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THE THIRD CATEGORY OF CHANGES THAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS ASSOCIATED WITH SOME MI SOME OTHER CHANGES THAT ARE INTENDED THAT OVER TIME WE'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THE, THAT MINOR CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE LANGUAGE AND THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE CHANGES, UH, CAN BE ENFORCED. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE RECOMMENDING A CHANGE THAT WOULD PLACE A 30 DAY TIMELINE, UH, FOR THOSE, FOR THOSE OWNERS WHO HAVE, HAVE A DOG THAT HAS BEEN DEEMED DANGEROUS. 
          AND SO THAT MEANS THAT ONCE THE DOG IS DEEMED DANGEROUS, THE OWNERS WILL ONLY HAVE A 30 DAYS TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE, UH, WHICH MAKES IT SO IT DOESN'T STRETCH OUT EVEN FURTHER. 
          UH, SECOND, WE ARE ADDING SOME RESTRICTIONS ON THE NUISANCE FEEDING OF ANIMALS TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IF YOU ARE WANTING TO FEED WILDLIFE, THAT YOU ARE DOING IT IN A RESPONSIBLE WAY, UH, AND NOT, UM, POLLUTING OR, UM, LEAVING THAT FOOD OUT FOR TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL, UM, WILDLIFE. 
          UM, WE ARE CLARIFYING, UH, WHEN AN ANIMAL CARE, WHEN AN ANIMAL RESCUE ORGANIZATION NEEDS TO HAVE A LICENSE, AND THEN ALSO SOME OTHER MINOR GRAMMATICAL IMPROVEMENTS, 
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UH, TO THE ORDINANCE. 
          IN THE END, UH, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, WE ARE APPRO WE ARE RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF THESE CHANGES TO THE CHAPTER FIVE AS WELL AS TO THE CHAPTER 20 OF THE CITY CODE. 
          UH, WITH THAT APPROVAL, IT IS OUR RECOMMENDATION THAT THE GENERAL ORDINANCE CHANGES WOULD GO INTO EFFECT, UH, AS EARLY AS JANUARY 1ST, 2021. 
          HOWEVER, ALL CHANGES ARE ALL, ALL CHANGES ASSOCIATED WITH THE RETAIL PET STORE RE REQUIREMENTS WOULD BE DELAYED UNTIL, UH, AFTER JULY 1ST, UH, 2021. 
          SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATIONS. 
          I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UH, FOR THE PRESENTATION HEBREW, WE HAVE, UH, UH, SEVERAL CITIZENS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON, ON THIS ITEM. 
          SO WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT FIRST AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO OUR COUNCIL DISCUSSION. 
          UH, SO I'LL START WITH LAURA ZAMORA. 
          UH, MS. ZAMORA, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY CHRISTOPHER BETH, GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS LAURA SAMANA, AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. 
          ANIMAL WELFARE IS MY LIFE'S MISSION, AND THIS ISSUE IS VERY DEAR TO ME. 
          I HAVE VOLUNTEERED WITH SAN ANTONIO HUMANE SOCIETY, THE CHIHUAHUA RESCUE, AND I HAVE FOSTERED FOR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES. 
          I HAVE ADOPTED TWO SENIOR SPECIAL NEEDS DOGS FROM ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, AND I AM AN ACTIVE ADVOCATE WITH THE TEXAS NET LEGISLATIVE NETWORK FOR ANIMAL WELFARE. 
          IN ADDITION, I'M A MANAGER AT PETLAND WHERE I'M ABLE TO PRACTICE MY PASSION, SENSITIVITY, AND DUTY TO ANIMAL WELFARE. 
          WE ARE NOT IN COMPETITION WITH SHELTERS AND RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS, AND OUR PUPPIES ARE NOT TAKING THE SPOT OF A SHELTER PET NOR CONTRIBUTING TO A SHELTER PET'S LOSS OF LIFE. 
          FURTHERMORE, WE DO NOT SUPPORT OR UTILIZE PUPPY MILLS. 
          IT IS A MISNOMER THAT ANY PROFESSIONAL BREEDER IS A PUPPY MILL LIKE YOU. 
          I ABHOR THE EXISTENCE OF PUPPY MILLS AND THAT ALL THAT THEY REPRESENT, BUT THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE DOES NOT ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF PUPPY MILLS. 
          IT IS NOT A BAN ON PUPPY MILLS, AS SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IT TO BE. 
          I WOULD LIKE THIS CITY COUNCIL TO PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE PETLAND TO IDENTIFY THE PUPPY MILLS AND TO BOLDLY TRANSFORM THE LAWS THAT GOVERN THEM, NOT PENALIZE THE RESPONSIBLE ESTABLISHMENTS LIKE PETLAND AND THE BREEDERS THAT ARE THOUGHTFULLY VETTED. 
          OUR CURRENT ANIMAL PROTECTION LAWS MUST BE STRENGTHENED. 
          THE LANGUAGE TIGHTENED, INSPECTIONS INCREASED AND STANDARDS OF CARE IMPROVED. 
          WE ALSO WANT THE ELIMINATION OF PUPPY MILLS. 
          THERE IS A RIGHT WAY AND A WRONG WAY TO TRY TO ELIMINATE PUPPY MILLS. 
          THIS BAN IS THE WRONG WAY. 
          THIS BAN WILL NOT SHINE LIGHT ON IRRESPONSIBLE BREEDERS. 
          IT WILL ONLY DRIVE THEM FURTHER UNDERGROUND WHERE THERE IS NO REGULATION, NO ENFORCEMENT, AND OUR ANIMALS WILL SUFFER. 
          PROFESSIONAL BREEDERS LIKE THE ONES PARTNERED WITH PETLAND, OPERATE ABOVE AND BEYOND. 
          THE STANDARDS ARTICULATED IN THE ANIMAL WELFARE ACT. 
          OUR BREEDERS SURPASS THE MINIMUM STANDARDS ARE PUPPIES COME FROM BREEDERS WHO SOCIALIZE THEIR DOGS. 
          RU PROVIDE ROUTINE VACCINATIONS, DEWORMING AND MEDICAL CARE. 
          THE ANIMALS HAVE AMPLE SPACE TO RUN AND PLAY INDOORS IN A CLIMATE CONTROLLED SPACE AND OUTDOORS IN SPACIOUS ENCLOSURES TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY, PETLAND CAN ASSIST THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND IDENTIFYING BAD BREEDERS OWNERS. 
          JAIME REEVA AND DAVID MORENO HAVE A VAST NETWORK. 
          THEY HAVE SPENT OVER 10 YEARS BUILDING POSITIVE INDUSTRY RELATIONSHIPS, ALL WITH THE GOAL OF ENSURING THESE PUPPIES ARE WELL CARED FOR AND HEALTHY. 
          TOGETHER, WE CAN ALL SET A PRECEDENT AND TRULY TACKLE THIS NATIONAL ISSUE. 
          IF THIS CITY COUNCIL CRIPPLES PET LANDS FOOT IN THIS INDUSTRY, YOU WILL ONLY SABOTAGE YOUR EFFORTS AND LOSE YOUR GREATEST ALLIES. 
          DIVIDED. 
          WE ACCOMPLISH NOTHING. 
          WE ARE STRONGER TOGETHER. 
          THANK YOU, MS. AMARA. 
          THANK YOU. 
          CHRISTOPHER BETH. 
          CHRISTOPHER BETH. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          ALLISON GODDARD. 
          ALLISON GODDARD. 
          JULIANNE, MARK BANKS. 
          OKAY, MS. MARK BANKS. 
          YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY LIZ CAHALAN. 
          GOOD MORNING COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND ALL MY RESCUE BUDDIES. 
          I RUN GOD'S DOG'S RESCUE. 
          I'VE BEEN RESCUING HERE FOR 25 YEARS. 
          UM, WE'RE IN THE FRONT 
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LINES, OKAY? WE SAVE THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOGS, AND WE'VE PREVENTED MILLIONS FROM BEING BORN HERE IN SAN ANTONIO AS WELL AS CATS. 
          WE DO HELP CATS 'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF COOL. 
          I WANNA KNOW WHY PET LAND HAS LOBBYISTS. 
          THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING. 
          WHY DO THEY HAVE PAID LOBBYISTS AND WHY ARE THEY SPENDING $30,000 ALREADY THIS YEAR ON LOBBYISTS? IF THEY'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING, IF THEY'RE SPAYING AND NEUTERING, IF THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING ABOVE BOARD, WHY DO THEY HAVE TO HAVE LOBBYISTS OUT HERE TO TELL YOU PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE GOOD AND, AND THEY'RE NOT BREEDING, UH, UNCONSCIONABLY. 
          WE DO NOT HAVE A SHORTAGE OF DOGS OR PUPPIES IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          IN FACT, WE HAVE AN OVER ABUNDANCE AND WE HAVE FOR YEARS. 
          WE STRUGGLE. 
          WE STRUGGLE EVERY DAY TO SAVE AS MANY LIVES AS POSSIBLE. 
          I HAVE, WE HAVE A MOM AND POP BUILDING. 
          WE HAD TO BUILD IT BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY MOMS AND PUPS OUT THERE, AND IT'S ALL OVER. 
          CITY OF SAN ANTONIO CAN BE ONE OF THE LEADERS. 
          THERE ARE OTHER CITIES IN THE STATE OF TEXAS WHO HAVE ALREADY BANNED THE SALE, THE RETAIL SALE OF COMMERCIALLY, COMMERCIALLY BORN PRODUCTS OR PUPPIES, AND THEY MAKE A LOT OF MONEY DOING IT. 
          BUT SAN ANTONIO COULD JOIN AUSTIN, WACO, UH, FORT WORTH, EL PASO AND THE COLONY. 
          I THINK WE NEED TO BE LEADERS IN THIS BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING SO HARD AS RESCUERS AND AS ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES TO FIX THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THERE ARE, YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN CERTAIN AREAS, AND THERE ARE DOGS AND CATS RUNNING RAMPANT AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BREEDING RAMPANTLY. 
          IF PETLAND HAD A CONCERN ABOUT THE ANIMALS THAT THEY WERE BRINGING IN, FIRST OF ALL, THEY WOULD BE BRED PROPERLY. 
          I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST, UH, BREEDERS THAT ARE BREEDING FOR STANDARD FOR THE ANIMAL AND FOR THEIR USE. 
          IF THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, SEARCH AND RESCUE DOGS. 
          THERE ARE DOGS THAT WE CANNOT GET IN THE RESCUE WORLD THAT HAVE SPECIFIC BREED, UH, MENTALITIES. 
          IF THEY WEREN'T, UH, MY MAIN THING IS IF THEY WEREN'T DOING WHAT WAS RIGHT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE A LOBBYIST. 
          UH, AS SAN ANTONIO, YOU, YOU NOW, AS THE COUNCIL, HAVE SEEN A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT. 
          YOU KNOW, THE ANIMALS ARE OUT THERE. 
          YOU KNOW THAT THE RESCUERS ARE OUT THERE WORKING SO HARD EVERY DAY, KILLING OURSELVES, LITERALLY TO SAVE ALL THESE ANIMALS. 
          YOU KNOW, NOW, AND I, I CHARGE YOU WITH DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THE ANIMALS AND FOR ALL OF THOSE OF US WHO CARE ABOUT THEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MS. MARK BANKS, LIZ HELIAN. 
          MS. CAHALAN, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY SU SUSAN HENRY. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          CAN YOU HEAR ME? OKAY. 
          I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO MADDIE. 
          SHE'S A TWO YEAR OLD BOXER THAT USED TO BE A PUPPY MILL MAMA. 
          WHEN MADDIE CAME TO US TO FOSTER, SHE WAS COMPLETELY HAIRLESS FROM MANGE. 
          SHE WAS SEVERELY EMACIATED FROM MALNUTRITION INFESTED WITH HOOKWORMS. SHE HAD A SEVERE CASE OF GIARDIA FROM DRINKING TAINTED WATER, RESULTING IN EXPLOSIVE DIARRHEA. 
          HER EARS WERE TORN AND BLEEDING WHERE HER PUPPY MEAL TAGS HAD BEEN RIPPED OUT. 
          MADDIE HAD BEEN DUMPED ON THE STREETS BECAUSE SHE COULD NO LONGER PRODUCE PUPPIES AND MAKE A PROFIT FOR HER OWNERS. 
          WHEN SHE CAME TO US, SHE CRINGED FROM HUMAN TOUCH. 
          SHE HAD NEVER HAD A BATH. 
          HER FLEAS HAD BASICALLY SUCKED HER BLOOD DRY. 
          SAN ANTONIO HAS A HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE STRAY PROBLEM. 
          WE WERE ASKED RECENTLY TO HELP A FAMILY FIND A PUPPY. 
          A QUICK SEARCH ON THE A C S WEBSITE SHOWED THERE WAS OVER 70 DOGS, ALL BREEDS, ALL COLORS, ALL SIZES, AND THEY'RE ALL UNDER ONE YEAR OLD BEGGING FOR A HOME. 
          PUPPY MILLS DON'T HAVE A PLACE HERE. 
          WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF DOGS BEGGING FOR A HOME, AND WE NEED TO CURE OUR STRAY PROBLEM. 
          IF THESE PLACES CAN SHOW PUPPIES NEEDING A HOME, IT'S WIN-WIN FOR SAN ANTONIO AND PUPPY MILL. 
          MOMS LIKE MADDIE WILL BE FOREVER GRATEFUL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK 
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YOU. 
          MS. HELIAN. 
          SUSAN HENRY. 
          SUSAN HENRY. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          EVAN BOWL. 
          EVAN BOWL, JOSH NYE, JOSH NYE, ALBERT SIUS. 
          MR. SARDINIA WILL BE FOLLOWED BY PAULA SARDINIA, HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          UH, MAYOR BERG. 
          GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TODAY. 
          MY NAME IS ALBERT SARDINAS AND I'M A PROUD DOG PARENT TO A 14 MONTH OLD SIBERIAN HUSKY NAMED ROMAN. 
          UH, HE IS NOW 65 POUNDS, BUT I STILL CRADLE HIM LIKE I DID WHEN HE WAS A PUPPY 'CAUSE I'M BIG ENOUGH TO DO THAT. 
          AND, UH, WE BROUGHT ROMAN INTO OUR HOME AS AN EMOTIONAL SUPPORT DOG FOR OUR DAUGHTER. 
          OUR LITTLE GIRL IS A SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVOR WHO AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF HER COUNSELORS TURNED TO ANIMALS FOR SUPPORT. 
          SHE STARTED, UH, VOLUNTEERING AT HER LOCAL SHELTER, PROVIDING CARE AND LOVE TO DOGS WHO IN TURN PROVIDED HER WITH SAFETY. 
          ONCE SHE EXPRESSED HER DESIRE TO ADOPT THE ONE SMILING FACES OF STAFF TURNED INTO DISDAINFUL LOOKS, IT WAS CLEAR THEY WOULD NEVER ADOPT OUT A LOYAL AND OUTGOING HUSKY TO SOMEONE WHOSE CIRCUMSTANCES THEY PERCEIVED TO NOT BE GOOD ENOUGH. 
          SO WE DID OUR RESEARCH TO FIND AN ETHICAL BREEDER OF HUSKIES AND DROVE OVER FOUR HOURS TO THEIR KENNEL TO PICK UP OUR PUPPY. 
          THE EXPERIENCE SHOWED ME THE STARK CONTRAST BETWEEN SOUND REGULATIONS AND UNFOUNDED POLICIES. 
          YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE SURVEY CONDUCTED BY A C S EARLIER THIS YEAR. 
          THE INHERENT BIAS IN ITS METHODOLOGY ASIDE, THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE FROM NEARLY 500 OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS SHOWS THAT A C S NEEDS TO STOP THE ILLEGAL SALE OF ANIMALS ON ROADSIDES AND PARKING LOTS AND ONLINE. 
          I THEREFORE EXPECTED TO REVIEW AN ORDINANCE WHICH WOULD EXPAND THE POWERS OF A C S OFFICERS AND ADD MORE TEETH AS MANY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WROTE TO EXISTING POLICIES. 
          INSTEAD, I SEE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CHANGES TO CHAPTER FIVE ARE FOCUSED ON PET STORES. 
          THESE CHANGES SEEM TO BE WILDLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE OFFICES OF TWO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND EQUITY COMMITTEE UNDERSTOOD THIS ORDINANCE TO BE. 
          LET ME BE CLEAR. 
          PROHIBITING PET STORES FROM ONLY SELLING ANIMALS SOURCED FROM RESCUES IS NOT GOING TO FIX SAN ANTONIO STRAY ANIMAL PROBLEM. 
          THE 20 19 20 20 A P P A NATIONAL PET OWNER SURVEY FOUND THAT 56% OF ANIMALS NATIONWIDE WERE ACQUIRED THROUGH SHELTERS. 
          RESCUES ARE AS STRAYS. 
          CONVERSELY, ONLY 22% OF ANIMALS NATIONWIDE WERE ACQUIRED THROUGH PET STORES OR BREEDERS TO BRING THAT NUMBER HOME FOR YOU, UH, MRS. KER SAID THAT THEY SELL ONLY 15 PUPPIES PER WEEK, WHICH EQUALS 180 PUPPIES PER MONTH. 
          CONVERSELY, THE A C S HAD THEIR LOWEST ADOPTION MONTH IN FEBRUARY OF 2020 WITH 436 ADOPTIONS. 
          THAT MATH IS VERY CLEAR. 
          YOUR PRIVATE SALES ONLY ACCOUNT FOR 41% OF WHAT A C S PUTS OUT THROUGH ADOPTIONS, AND THAT WAS THEIR LOWEST MONTH. 
          IN ADDITION, A 2018 A S P C A REPORT NOTES THAT 20% OF ADOPTEES END BACKUP IN SHELTERS. 
          EVEN WORSE. 
          THAT FIGURE DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THE HORRORS OF PEOPLE THAT MIGHT SIMPLY DISCARD THE ANIMAL INSTEAD OF RETURNING TO THE SHELTER. 
          INSTEAD, MY CLIENT REMAINS IN CONTACT WITH THEIR CUSTOMERS AND IMPLORES THEM TO RETURN THE PUPPY SHOULD IT NEED TO BE REHOMED. 
          MR. CURRY EVEN SHARED A STORY WITH ME ONCE OF A 10 MONTH OLD, UH, CHOCOLATE LAB THAT THEY THANK YOU MR. SARDS. 
          OH, THAT WAS TIME. 
          YEAH. 
          EXCUSE ME. 
          P PAULA SARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          MS. SARD SHALL BE FOLLOWED BY JAIME. 
          EVA, GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS PAULA SARDS, UH, AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING PUPPY LAND. 
          I AM NOT JUST AN ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST AND ADVOCATE OVER MY LIFETIME. 
          I HAVE RESCUED AND ADOPTED NINE PETS, AS MY HUSBAND TOLD YOU. 
          AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT POLICY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS THE INTENDED POLICY AND HOW DOES THE ORDINANCE WORK. 
          BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK BASED ON YOUR VOTE ON AUGUST 20TH, 2020 AT THESE POLICIES THROUGH THE LENS OF RACIAL EQUITY. 
          WE HAVE PRESENTED TREMENDOUS INFORMATION TO YOU HERE THIS MORNING, THAT THERE IS A DOCUMENTED CASE OF STRUCTURAL AND SYSTEMIC RACISM IN THE PET RESCUE INDUSTRY. 
          THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT, AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO LIVE UP TO THE VALUES OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          ADOPTING THIS ORDINANCE WILL NOT REDUCE THE NUMBER 
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OF UNWANTED AND ABANDONED PETS IN YOUR CITY. 
          THOSE PETS DON'T COME FROM RETAIL PET STORES. 
          THEY ARE ADOPTED BY AGENCIES WHO BRING PETS IN THEMSELVES FROM OUTTA STATE, AND THEN THEY HAVE A VERY HIGH ABANDONED RIGHT. 
          NOTHING IN THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSES THAT. 
          IN AN EFFORT TO MEET THE, THE A C S IN THE MIDDLE, WE OFFERED A 10 POINT PLAN. 
          OUR CLIENTS GO ABOVE WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR U S D A. 
          THEY MEET AND CONSULT WITH THEIR BREEDERS. 
          WHEN A BREEDER DOESN'T MEET THEIR PERSONAL STANDARDS, THEY DO NOT ACCEPT THE PUPPY. 
          THEY DO NOT SELL THE PUPPY. 
          THEY OFFER A FIVE IN 10 YEAR GUARANTEE. 
          I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN I TOOK MY SHELTER DOG MAX AND DISCOVERED HE HAD CANCER AND LOTS OF OTHER ISSUES, I COULD AFFORD THE $14,000 IN VET BILLS TO NOT EUTHANIZE THAT ANIMAL. 
          THEY ONCE SURROUNDED UP 49 ANIMALS IN SAN SAN ANTONIO, AND THEY EUTHANIZED 33 OF THEM. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT, WHEN SOMEONE THAT LOOKS LIKE ME AND MY FAMILY, WHEN WE GO TO A RESCUE, WE HAVE TO ANSWER THE CODED QUESTIONS. 
          WE DON'T GET THE PET THAT'S RIGHT FOR OUR FAMILY. 
          HAVING A DAUGHTER WHO IS A SEXUAL ASSAULT SURVIVOR AND ONE THAT'S AUTISTIC, THAT WE REQUIRE TWO RESCUE ANIMALS, WE GET THE DOG THAT THEY WANT US TO HAVE, IF THEY'LL EVEN LET US ADOPT IT WHEN THEY TALK ABOUT THEIR PUSH SURVEY. 
          IF YOU ARE IN DISTRICTS 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, GREAT. 
          YOU HAVE GREAT DIGITAL EQUITY. 
          IF YOU'RE IN DISTRICTS ONE THROUGH FIVE, NOT SO MUCH. 
          AGAIN, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE INEQUITABLE WAY THAT WE GATHERED THE INFORMATION. 
          ARE WE GETTING INFORMATION FROM VOICES THAT ALREADY AGREE WITH OUR POINT OF VIEW? ARE WE SEEKING TO USE THE LENS OF RACIAL EQUITY AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SERVING THE BIPO COMMUNITY IN YOUR PACKETS? WE HAVE PROVIDED 30 YEARS OF DATA THAT SUPPORT OUR POINT. 
          WHEN THESE LARGE NATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS SWOOP INTO URBAN CITIES, THEY SEND THE POLICE IN AND THEY TAKE DOGS AWAY FROM PEOPLE OF COLOR. 
          THEY DON'T JUST ADOPT THOSE DOGS OUT TO THE BEST WHITE FAMILIES. 
          THEY SEND THEM ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO PLACES LIKE COLORADO AND MASSACHUSETTS. 
          SO THEY'RE COMPETING WITH RETAIL PET STORES. 
          THANK YOU MS. ARD. 
          THANK YOU JAIME REBA. 
          MR. EVA, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY RAMIRO MUNOZ. 
          HELLO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS JAIME REBA. 
          I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF SAN ANTONIO SINCE 1998, AND I'M A, I'M AN OWNER OPERATOR OF PETLAND, ALONG WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNER DAVID MORENO, AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. 
          CURRENTLY, THERE'S A CITY ORDINANCE THAT IS BEING DIRECTED TO YOU TO BE VOTED ON THAT REQUIRES FURTHER CLARIFICATION. 
          THE ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN, WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON CONSUMER CHOICE EMPLOYEES BUSINESS AND OUR FUR BABIES PASSING A BLANKET ORDINANCE THAT PROHIBITS US FROM SELLING PUPPIES OF CATS, UNLESS THEY'RE DIRECTLY FROM THE SHELTER, DOES NOT WORK WITH THE BUSINESS MODEL. 
          PETLAND PROVIDES OUR CUSTOMERS WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE A PET OR BREED OR PUPPY THAT WORKS BEST FOR THEIR FAMILIES. 
          BY IMPLEMENTING THE BAN, YOU'LL BE TAKING AWAY THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND OUR ABILITY TO OFFER THAT SERVICE. 
          OUR CUSTOMERS ALSO COME IN WITH A DESIRE TO GET A PUPPY THAT WILL GROW WITH, UH, WITH THEM AND, AND WITH THEIR FAMILY. 
          IN ADDITION TO SOME PET OWNERS ARE LOOKING FOR SPECIFIC OR, OR PET, WHETHER IT'S DUE TO MEDICAL NECESSITY, UH, ALSO EMOTIONAL SUPPORT, ALSO SPECIFIC PERSONALITY THAT THEY FEEL SUIT SUITED FOR THEIR FAMILY, DYMA DYNAMICS. 
          MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S ALSO UNDERSTANDING THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT PARTICULAR PET ARE PREPARED TO TAKE CARE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE. 
          IF ONE OF THE PRIMARY PURPOSES OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO TARGET UNREGULATED BAD BREEDERS, THEN SADLY THEY WILL GO UNTOUCHED. 
          AND THE RESPONSIBILITY PET RESPONSIBLE PET STORES SUCH AS PETLAND WILL SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. 
          IN, IN ADDITION, CLOSING OUR STORES WILL ONLY INCREASE THE EXPOSURE OF UNREGULATED SOURCES AND THE CONSUMERS COULD FAIL VICTIM, FALL VICTIM TO THESE BREEDERS. 
          THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME MISCONSTRUED INFORMATION WHERE WE GET OUR PUPPIES FROM AND IT BECOMES AN AUTOMATIC ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE GET OUR PUPPIES FROM PUPPY MILLS THAT COULD BE THE FURTHEST FROM THE TRUTH. 
          AND THAT'LL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW I GET TO GO SEE SOME OF THESE VETS, UH, ALONG WITH THE VETS TO GO SEE THESE BREEDERS. 
          AND WE CAN GET TO BUILD A RAPPORT AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE HUSBANDRY IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, AND IT'S ABOVE THE STANDARDS THAT NEEDS TO BE SO THAT WHEN IT COMES INTO SAN ANTONIO, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          SO WE LOOK AT THAT BIG TIME. 
          IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, BUT ONE OF THE BIGGEST IMPACTS OF THE ORDINANCE IS PASSED WOULD HAVE IF NOT ONLY OUR LIVELIHOOD, WE'D BE FORCED TO CLOSE OUR STORES, BUT IT'D ALSO HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON 30 PLUS EMPLOYEES. 
          IN ADDITION, THE BAN WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR VENDORS. 
          OUR LANDLORD, OUR VETERINARIANS, C OVID 19 HAS ALREADY HAD SUCH A HUGE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON BUSINESSES IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          BY ENFORCING THIS BAN, IT WOULD ONLY BE CONTRIBUTING TO ALREADY STRUGGLING SMALL BUSINESSES AND HAVE AN OVERALL EFFECT IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT I WANT TO PAINT A SMALL PICTURE. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU HAVE TWO CABLES, TWO CABLE LINES 
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COMING INTO SAN ANTONIO. 
          ONE IS THE GOOD LINE OF GOOD PLAYERS THAT ARE TRYING TO REPRESENT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S GOING THE RIGHT WAY WITH GOOD BREEDERS, ABOVE STANDARDS, BREEDERS, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          THEN YOU HAVE A BAD LINE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. 
          BAD BREEDERS, PUPPY MILLS, THINGS OF THAT, THAT NATURE. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS YOU'RE GONNA CUT THIS GOOD LINE AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE AVAILABILITY FOR ALL THE GOOD BREEDERS TO COME IN. 
          AND THAT'S GONNA BE SOMEWHAT HURTFUL TO US IN GENERAL FOR THE WHOLE POPULATION OF THESE BAD BREEDERS. 
          AND IT'S GONNA FUNNEL MUCH QUICKER. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MR. EVA RAMIRO MUNOZ. 
          MR. MUNOZ, DAVID MORENO. 
          MR. MORENO, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY JAMIE STEWART. 
          THANK YOU. 
          HI, MY NAME IS DAVID MORENO AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS IMPORTANT ISSUE. 
          UH, WHILE WE'RE GLAD THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING CLOSELY INTO THE PUPPIES THAT ARE OFFERED IN PETS STORES, WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE LIFT UP THE EFFECT OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE. 
          UH, JAIME SPOKE ABOUT THE EFFECT ON OUR BUSINESS, OUR EMPLOYEES, OUR CUSTOMERS, HAVING THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE TAKEN AWAY AS WELL AS THE EFFECT ON OTHER BUSINESSES. 
          BUT THE ORDINANCE WOULD NOT HAVE THE INTENDED EFFECT ON THE MAIN OBJECTIVE, WHICH IS PUTTING AN END TO BAD BREEDERS. 
          CURRENTLY, THERE AREN'T STRICT RULES ABOUT WHERE PUPPIES COME FROM, BUT WE AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE, UH, THE PATH THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE IS TO REQUIRE THAT ALL PUPPIES OFFERED AT PET STORES COME DIRECTLY FROM A U SS D A LICENSED AND INSPECT A BREEDER, AND THAT THERE'S NO VIOLATIONS ON THEIR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS. 
          THE U S D A IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INSPECTING BREEDERS THE WAY A C S IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INSPECTING OUR STORES. 
          UM, THIS WAY THERE CAN BE, UH, A LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE GOVERNMENT, THAT A GOVERNMENT AGENCY IS TAKING THE TIME TO INSPECT AND EVALUATE A BREEDER. 
          THOSE ARE THE ONLY BREEDERS THAT SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR OUR CITY. 
          AN ORDINANCE THAT PLACES A BAN ON GETTING PUPPIES FROM A BREEDER WILL ONLY PUSH POTENTIAL BREEDERS TO OTHER SOURCES, PRIMARILY THE INTERNET. 
          UH, THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY AGAINST EVERYTHING THE ORDINANCE IS SUPPOSED TO DO. 
          THE INTERNET HAS NO ONE, UM, THE INTERNET ANSWERS TO NO ONE. 
          UH, PET STORES IN SAN ANTONIO ARE UNDER THE PURVIEW OF A C S A C S CAN INSPECT OUR STORE. 
          THEY CAN INVESTIGATE ANY CONCERNS BROUGHT TO THEM BY CITIZENS AND HELP MAKE SURE PUPPIES ARE COMING FROM THE RIGHT PLACES. 
          THE MAJORITY OF CITIZENS MAKE ADOPTIONS OR RESCUES FIRST. 
          ABOUT 96% OF PETS GO HOME AND NOT FROM A PET STORE, AND THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE, BUT THE PROCESS OF BRINGING IN A NEW FAMILY MEMBER IS NOT A ONE SIZE FITS ALL. 
          THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE A CITIZEN HAS A LIFELONG BOND AND PREVENT A PET FROM BEING SURRENDERED IS TO ALLOW THEM TO CHOOSE HOW THEY FIND THEIR IDEAL PET. 
          AN ORDINANCE ENSURING PET STORES ONLY OFFER PETS FROM LICENSED INSPECTED AND RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS WOULD DO THAT. 
          A PET SALE CANNOT. 
          WE ALL WANT TO PUT AN END TO BAD BREEDERS, BUT THIS ORDINANCE WOULD AFFECT BAD BREEDERS IN NO WAY AT ALL. 
          IT ONLY AFFECTS BUSINESSES CLOSING WORKERS LOSING THEIR JOBS AND CITIZENS' RIGHTS TO CHOOSE WHERE THEY GET THEIR PET. 
          SAN ANTONIO IS TRYING TO PREVENT PUPPIES COMING INTO THE CITY THAT ARE FROM BAD BREEDERS. 
          THIS ORDINANCE WOULD ENSURE PUPPIES COMING INTO THE CITY WOULD BE FROM BAD BREEDERS. 
          UM, I WANT TO JUST, UH, MENTION WHEN WE SPOKE WITH HEBER, UH, SEVERAL TIMES, AND I THINK KEEPERS DOING A WONDERFUL JOB. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASKED WAS, COULD IT HELP IF WE ADOPT OUT ON BEHALF OF A C S AT OUR STORES, PROCEEDS GO TO A C S AND HIS FOCUS WAS MORE ON THE BREEDING AND FELT THERE'S NOT SO MUCH OF AN ISSUE OF OVERPOPULATION. 
          THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. 
          SO THEIR, UH, RELEASE RATE IS SO MUCH HIGHER. 
          UH, SORRY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MR. MO MORENO. 
          JAMIE STEWART, FOLLOWED BY DANETTE SCHWEERS. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. 
          MY NAME IS JAMIE SCHUMER, AND I AM FROM DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          I HAVE BEEN EMPLOYED AT PETLAND FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT I LOVE MY JOB. 
          WHERE ELSE CAN YOU SHARE YOUR STORIES AND EXPERIENCES AND HOPES THAT IT COULD HELP SOMEONE ELSE GOING THROUGH A SIMILAR SITUATION, THE LOSS OF A BELOVED FAMILY MEMBER, OR ADDING A BRAND NEW FAMILY MEMBER THAT THEY NEVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE THEY COULD HAVE, WHERE YOU CAN BE A PART OF THE JOY THAT FAMILY EXPRESSES IN FINDING THEIR NEW FAMILY COMPANION OR THE HEARTACHE WHEN THEY REALIZE NOW IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT TIME. 
          A PERSON HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT ANIMAL AND WHERE THEY GET IT FROM THAT IS GONNA BE BEST FOR THEIR HOUSEHOLD. 
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FORCING AN OPINION ON A MAJORITY IS WRONG. 
          TAKING A PERSON'S RIGHT OF CHOICE IN ANY SITUATION AWAY IS WRONG. 
          WE HELP EDUCATE FAMILIES ON WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST FIT FOR THEIR FAMILY, WHETHER IT BE FURRY, FEATHERED, SCALED, OR THINNED WITH THE NUMBER OF BAD INDIVIDUALS USING FAKE PUPPY PITCHERS AND C OVID 19 AS A MEANS OF SCAMMING PET OWNERS. 
          OUR CUSTOMERS FEEL SAFE AND SECURE IN KNOWING OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES HAVE COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY. 
          EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT THE ANIMAL IS CONVEYED, DOCUMENTED, AND PASSED ON TO THE NEW OWNER AND FAMILY. 
          MANY PEOPLE DO HAVE PET ALLERGIES, WHETHER IT'S THE DANDER, LOOSE HAIRS THAT SHED THROUGHOUT THEIR LIFE OR THE SALIVA THAT IS GIVEN WITH PUPPY KISSES, I MYSELF HAVE ALLERGIES TO SHEDDING AND DANDER. 
          IF IT WERE NOT FOR PETLAND, I WOULD NOT HAVE FOUND MY TWO WONDERFUL LITTLE GIRLS. 
          ISABELLE STORM, MY YORKIE AND DARLA DIMPLES DUMPLINGS, MY LASA PIC. 
          MANY OF OUR CLIENTS ARE RENTERS. 
          THERE ARE MANY RESTRICTIONS PUT IN PLACE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO WHEN RENTING. 
          AS FAR AS WHAT PETS ARE ALLOWED, WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, BREED RESTRICTIONS, AND IN SOME, SOME CASES, NOISE RESTRICTIONS. 
          IN ORDER TO HAVE A BETTER SUCCESS FOR ADOPTION OF SHELTERS, WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY TO CHANGE CURRENT RESTRICTIONS SET FORTH ON BREEDS WEIGHTS, AND EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ON PROPER PET OWNERSHIP AND CEASING PET SALES AND PET STORES. 
          YOU WILL BE ADDING TO THE NIGHTMARE OF BACKYARD BREEDERS AND FURTHER EMPOWERING CRAIGSLIST AND SOCIAL MEDIA FOR PET SCALES AND SCAMS. MORE FUNDING FOR RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE LICENSED HUMANE SOCIETIES AND ANIMAL SHELTERS IS ESSENTIAL SO THAT THEY CAN MAINTAIN THEIR STANDARDS OF HEALTH AND WELLBEING. 
          I FULLY SUPPORT ALL RESCUE AND ADOPTION DEDICATED TASK FORCE TO SEEK OUT SCAMMERS, BACKYARD BREEDERS THAT ARE NOT FOLLOWING U S D A STANDARDS THAT ARE NOT LICENSED AND SUPPLY APPROPRIATE FUNDING FOR THOSE RESOURCES. 
          WE WANT TO BACK THAT WORKING WITH LAWMAKERS TO ENFORCE HARSHER PUNISHMENTS FOR BREEDERS NOT ALLOWING GUIDELINES AND INSPECTIONS IS HOW WE STOP PUPPY MILLS AND BACKYARD BREEDERS. 
          LET'S MAKE MORE JOBS THAT WILL ASSIST. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MS. STEWART DANETTE SCHWEERS. 
          ALRIGHT, JUSTIN KERR. 
          MR. KERR, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY KAYLA KERR. 
          HELLO, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. 
          UM, MY NAME'S JUSTIN KERR. 
          I'M THE ONE OF THE OWNERS OF PUPPY LAND. 
          FIRST, I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE RETALIATION FOR OUR COMMENTS TODAY, BUT, UH, FROM ANIMAL CONTROL AS THEY ARE THE ONES WHO RECOMMENDED THIS ORDINANCE, AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO REGULATE US. 
          SO IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONFLICT OF INTEREST. 
          UM, IT'S A LAZY AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL ATTEMPT AT REGULATION WITH NO WILLINGNESS FOR COMPROMISE FROM THE DIRECTOR OF ANIMAL CONTROL. 
          HE'S MADE THAT VERY CLEAR IN HIS CONVERSATIONS. 
          HE CLEARLY DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THE AMOUNT OF PET STORES IN HIS CITY, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY AN ISSUE ON ITS OWN. 
          THERE ARE FOUR, HE STATED THERE WAS THREE. 
          UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T REALLY CONTROL ANYTHING WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          UM, SAN ANTONIO ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IS UNABLE TO ENFORCE WHAT LAWS THEY CURRENTLY HAVE. 
          I HAVE PERSONALLY HAD TO INFORM AN OFFICER ABOUT LAWS THAT THEY'RE UNAWARE OF UNTIL SHE PULLED OUT THE CITY CODE TO VERIFY FOR HERSELF. 
          SO WHY SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING MORE REGULATIONS WHEN THEY CAN'T EVEN KEEP UP TO DATE ON WHAT THEY HAVE NOW? THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ENFORCE IT AND FOR HIS INABILITY TO REGULATE WHAT HE ALREADY HAS. 
          UH, ACCORDING TO GOOGLE REVIEWS AND EVEN ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, OFFICERS THEMSELVES, THEY'RE LIKELY SELLING ANIMALS WITH PARVO. 
          THEY EVEN HAVE HANDOUTS TO WARN ADOPTERS OF THIS. 
          I'VE SEEN THEM ONLINE AND JUST LIKE WE HAVE NEGATIVE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST US, SO DOES ANIMAL CONTROL, BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE JUST THAT THEY'RE ALLEGATIONS. 
          THEY'RE NOT FACT, IT'S, IT'S GOOGLE. 
          UH, ANIMAL CONTROL DOES HAVE A PROVEN HISTORY. 
          HISTORY OF ISSUES THOUGH. 
          JUST DO A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH AND YOU'LL FIND PLENTY OF ARTICLES BY USING THE SAME REASONING AND OF THIS ORDINANCE, SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING SHUTTING DOWN THE SHELTER BECAUSE THEY CLEARLY HAVE A HISTORY OF, CLEARLY HAVE A HISTORY OF PAST ISSUES. 
          UM, IF THERE ARE REALLY SO MANY BAD BREEDERS OUT THERE, THE LIM LIMITING THE BREEDERS TO TEXAS IS, IS NOT REALISTIC. 
          'CAUSE THEN YOU'RE JUST TAKING AWAY THAT LARGE POOL OF BREEDERS. 
          SO NOW WE HAVE LESS TO PULL FROM. 
          SO IT REALLY IS KIND OF COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. 
          UM, DURING TIMES LIKE THESE, WHEN COUNTLESS BUS BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING DAY TO DAY TO EVEN PAY RENT, THE FACT THAT SAN ANTONIO IS EVEN CONSIDERING CONSIDERING TO FORCE FOR SMALL, SMALL FAMILY OWNED BUSINESSES TO CLOSE IS HONESTLY RIDICULOUS. 
          EVERY ONE OF US WILL HAVE TO CLOSE OUR LOCATIONS AND THE CITY WILL LOSE OUT ON THAT 20 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN REVENUE THAT WE BRING IN. 
          UM, THE HUNDREDS OF JOBS THAT WILL, YOU'LL LOSE IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS REALLY WANNA BE KNOWN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, IS TO VOTE OUT FORCING SMALL BUSINESSES TO CLOSE DURING TIMES LIKE THESE. 
          UH, WHEN REALLY THIS, THIS BILL IS BEING BACKED BY GROUPS LIKE HUMANE SOCIETY WHO 
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BRING IN HUNDREDS OF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR IN REVENUE. 
          THEY PAY OUT TENS OF MILLIONS OF SALARIES, AND IF YOU READ THEIR FORM NINE NINETIES, THEY ONLY DO ABOUT A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FROM ACTUAL PROGRAM SERVICES. 
          THE REST OF IT'S JUST CONTRIBUTIONS AND GRANTS TO GO AROUND AND BASICALLY PASS LEGISLATION LIKE THIS. 
          UM, WHAT HAPPENS IF THIS ORDINANCE DOES PASS? TAKE A LOOK AT CALIFORNIA PET STORES WILL JUST MOVE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS, STILL SUPPLYING YOUR CITY. 
          YOU JUST LOSE ALL THE BENEFITS THAT WE BRING IN THE CONTROL. 
          UH, ALL THOSE BAD BREEDS YOU WANTED TO STOP. 
          YOU JUST GAVE THEM A PRIME LOCATION TO OPERATE BECAUSE NOW THERE'S NO PET STORES. 
          DON'T FORGET GOOGLE ONLINE BREEDS, BROKERS AND SCAMS. THEY'LL BEGIN TO ADVERTISE HERE QUICKLY NOW THAT WE'RE GONE. 
          SO WHAT DO WE SOLVE HERE? NOTHING. 
          NOW YOU JUST HAVE NO ONE TO HOLD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ANY ISSUES THAT MAY HAPPEN. 
          UM, ORDINANCE LIKE THESE HAVE HAD A HAVE BEEN PASSED IN SEVERAL CITIES AND STATES OVER THE YEARS. 
          HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT. 
          BUT TAKE A LOOK. 
          TAKE A CLOSER LOOK. 
          REPEATED FAILURES, THEY DON'T WORK. 
          THEY NEVER HAVE. 
          THANK YOU, MR. KERR. 
          KAYLA KERR, FOLLOWED BY OLIVIA TRAVIESO MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY. 
          MY NAME IS KAYLA KERR AND I'M RE REPRESENTING OUR SMALL FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS PUPPY LAND. 
          UM, WE ARE DIFFERENT FROM PETLAND. 
          WE JUST OPENED UP IN YOUR CITY JUST A MONTH AGO. 
          UM, PUPPY LAND IS A PUPPY STORE. 
          WE SPECIALIZE IN HELPING PEOPLE FIND THEIR NEW FERRY FAMILY MEMBERS. 
          WE OFFER A SAFE SPACE FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN OUR STORE, ME AND OUR PUPPIES, SOCIALIZE WITH THEM, LEARN ABOUT THE BREED, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE THE RIGHT FIT FOR THEM. 
          ESSENTIALLY, WE'RE VERY INVOLVED WITH OUR BREEDERS. 
          SO MY HUSBAND AND I, WE VISIT OUR BREEDERS. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM HAS BEEN TO MORE U S D A BREEDERS AND BEEN HANDS ON AS MUCH AS I PERSONALLY HAVE. 
          UH, WE ACTUALLY HELP, UH, HOST O F A HEALTH CLINICS FOR OUR BREEDERS. 
          SO THAT MEANS THAT WHEN WE TRAVEL AROUND WITH A MOBILE VETERINARIAN, I AM THE ONE THAT IS HANDS-ON WITH EVERY SINGLE PARENT DOG. 
          I LOVE ANIMALS. 
          I DO. 
          THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS MY PASSION. 
          THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, IS CONNECT FAMILIES WITH THEIR NEW FURRY FAMILY MEMBER. 
          UM, BEING HANDS-ON ALL OF THESE PARENTS IF I SAW SOMETHING WRONG, THAT'S NOT SOMEBODY THAT I WOULD BE WORKING WITH. 
          BEFORE WE GET OUR PUPPIES IN STORE, THEY'RE ALL TAKEN FROM OUR BREEDERS TO ONE CENTRAL LOCATION FOR A FEW DAYS. 
          THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A HOLDING FACILITY. 
          YOU CAN CALL IT A BROKER IF YOU'D LIKE TO, BUT IT'S ESSENTIALLY A HOLDING FACILITY. 
          OUR PUPPIES ARE CHECKED BY A VETERINARIAN. 
          THEY'RE MICROCHIPPED AND ALL THEIR PAPERWORK IS INPUT INTO A SYSTEM FOR US SO THAT WHEN WE RECEIVE OUR PUPPIES, WE ALSO RECEIVE A DIGITAL COPY OF THEIR PAPERWORK. 
          UM, WHEN OUR PUPPIES COME IN STORE, UM, THEY'RE TRANSPORTED TO US WITH SPECIALIZED VANS. 
          UH, THE DRIVERS ARE TRAINED KENNEL TECHS, THEY DRIVE 24 7 SO THAT THEY ARE NOT IN TRANSPORT FOR VERY LONG. 
          THAT CAN BE STRESSFUL. 
          UM, AND THEN WHEN THEY GET TO US, UM, THEY'RE CHECKED BY VETERINARIAN AGAIN. 
          WE OFFER A, UH, 14 DAY HEALTH GUARANTEE AS WELL AS A 10 YEAR HEALTH GUARANTEE FOR OUR CUSTOMERS. 
          UM, AFTER THE PUPPIES HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR A FEW DAYS, WE SEND 'EM OFF TO THEIR NEW HOMES. 
          WE CARE ABOUT OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR EMPLOYEES, AND OUR PUPPIES VERY MUCH. 
          IT'S NOT ABOUT THE BOTTOM DOLLAR. 
          IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING A SAFE PLACE FOR SOMEONE TO COME PURCHASE A HEALTHY, HAPPY PUPPY. 
          IF YOU PUT THIS ORDINANCE IN PLACE, YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR COMMUNITY AT RISK. 
          THIS CREATES AN INFLUX AND A VACUUM OF PEOPLE TO COME INTO YOUR CITY AND SELL, YOU KNOW, UNSCRUPULOUS RESELLERS. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S SAYING THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SOURCE, THE PEOPLE SELLING IN THE PARKING LOTS AND STERILIZE THEIR ANIMALS. 
          MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE ANIMALS. 
          THEY COULD HAVE JUST PURCHASED THEM FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEY'RE RESELLING IN YOUR CITY. 
          UM, THIS CREATES A RISK TO THE CONSUMER BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO ONE TO GO BACK TO IF THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG, ESSENTIALLY. 
          UM, WE'RE EXCITED TO BE A PART OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED SOME FANTASTIC RULES AND REGULATIONS, ESPECIALLY FOR PET STORES. 
          UM, I THINK THAT WE JUST NEED MORE WORK TO HELP IMPLEMENT THESE RULES, NOT ONLY IN PET STORES, BUT FOR THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TOO. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO HELP YOU KNOW, IF IT'S HIGHER LICENSURE FEES FOR US THAT WE CAN HELP SUPPORT ANIMAL CONTROL TO HELP EDUCATE AND GET MORE BOOTS ON THE GROUND SO THAT WAY THEY HAVE THE FORCE THAT THEY NEED TO REALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM THAT IS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO REVIEW, UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE GIVEN YOU AND REALLY CONSIDER, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH WITH THIS ORDINANCE OR NOT. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MR. KERR. 
          OLIVIA TSO, FOLLOWED BY ANITA FERNANDEZ. 
          GOOD MORNING COUNSEL. 
          MY NAME IS OLIVIA TSO. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. 
          AS YOU'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF THE SPEAKERS THIS MORNING, WHILE WELL INTENTIONED AND WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF A C S ON THIS MATTER, THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE MAKES NO DISTINCTION BETWEEN GOOD BREEDERS AND BAD BREEDERS AND SIMPLY PAINTS ALL BREEDERS WITH THE BROAD UGLY BRUSH OF PUPPY MILLS. 
          MANY CLAIMS THAT ARE MADE ABOUT BREEDERS THAT SUPPLY PET STORES ARE GENERALIZED AND POINT TO THE BAD ACTIONS OF SOME BREEDERS AS THE STANDARD FOR ALL. 
          BUT THE OWNERS OF PETLAND SAN ANTONIO HAVE TRAVELED TO VARIOUS PARTS OF THE COUNTRY TO VISIT AND DEVELOP DIRECT RELATIONSHIPS WITH FEDERALLY LICENSED BREEDERS FOR THE PAST DECADE. 
          THEY ARE NOT NEW TO SAN ANTONIO 
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BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE QUALITY STANDARDS AND REGULATIONS OF THE PROFESSIONAL BREEDERS THAT THEY PROVIDE THEIR PUPPIES. 
          THEY STAND BEHIND. 
          THE PUPPIES THEY SELL ON THE SCREEN NOW ARE IMAGES FROM SEVERAL OF THE BREEDER FACILITIES THEY WORK WITH THAT GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE MINIMUM U SS D A REGULATIONS. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE OWNERS, MR. DAVID MORENO, PICTURED IN SEVERAL OF THE IMAGES WHERE HE IS, HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE FIRSTHAND AND TO INTERACT WITH THE PUPPIES THAT COME TO THEIR STORE. 
          PETLAND SAN ANTONIO ALSO WORKS WITH THE NATIONAL BREEDING FACILITY EXPERTS TO IDENTIFY THE BEST FACILITIES FOR THEIR PETS. 
          THE FOLLOWING IS A STATEMENT THAT I WILL READ ON BEHALF OF CHRISTOPHER BETH, WHO WAS SIGNED UP TO CALL IN AND SPEAK TODAY. 
          I HAVE SPENT 35 YEARS OF MY CAREER WORKING IN THE PET INDUSTRY, AND FOR THE LAST 13 OF THAT CAREER, I HAVE WORKED FOR PETLAND. 
          DURING MY TIME WITH PETLAND, I SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS TRAVELING TO COMPANION PET BREEDING FACILITIES, INSPECTING THOSE FACILITIES AND DETERMINING IF I COULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE STORES, WHETHER THE STORES COULD OR COULD NOT PURCHASE PETS FROM THEIR BREEDERS. 
          I WAS ALSO PERSONALLY INVOLVED WITH CLOSING SUBSTANDARD BREEDING FACILITIES THAT MANY PEOPLE WOULD CALL PET MILL PUPPY MILLS. 
          DURING THAT TIME, I INSPECTED BREEDERS. 
          I HAVE ALSO ACCOMPANIED HUNDREDS OF STORE OWNERS LIKE DAVID MORENO AND MIME REBA INTO THE FIELD TO VISIT THE BREEDERS THEY ACTIVELY USE. 
          THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VISITING A FACILITY AND FINDING THE BEST QUALITY PETS. 
          I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND THAT UNACCEPTABLE BREEDING FACILITIES EXIST. 
          JUST LIKE I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE ARE BAD DOCTORS, BAD LAWYERS, EVEN BAD TEACHERS, BUT THERE ARE SYSTEMS IN PLACE TO PREVENT THE SUBSTANDARD OPERATORS FROM GETTING THEIR PETS INTO SAN ANTONIO'S PETLAND STORES. 
          ONE SIMPLE WAY IS THAT STORE OWNERS ARE TRANSPARENT WHERE THE COMPANION PET COMES FROM AND THEY OPENLY DISPLAY, DISPLAY THE BREEDER'S LAST STATE OR FEDERAL INSPECTION REPORT. 
          THESE REPORTS SHOW THE BREEDER'S INSPECTION RESULTS AND ARE DISPLAYED OPENLY AND PROUDLY BECAUSE WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR CLEAN REPORTS SHOWING ZERO OUT OF COMPLIANCE NOTATIONS. 
          LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER A WARNING TO EACH OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT I HAVE SEEN THIS TRUTH REPEATED DOZENS OF TIMES IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. 
          YOU WILL NEVER STOP THE DEMAND FOR PURPOSELY BRED PETS. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEONE WANTS A PURE BRED GOLDEN RETRIEVER, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP WANTING IT BECAUSE YOU TELL THEM THEY SHOULD GO TO A SHELTER AND GET A PET THERE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. VESO. 
          ANITA FERNANDEZ, FOLLOWED BY VICKI STEERMAN. 
          MAYOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY, VERY MUCH IN THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND WORKING TOGETHER. 
          UM, YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM TWO LOCALLY OWNED BUSINESS OWNERS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, AND WE THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          AND AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR THAT CHANCE. 
          I'M HERE ACTUALLY TO DELIVER A STATEMENT ON BEHALF OF SOMEONE, UM, NANETTE SCHWEERS, DR. 
          SCHWEERS, THE, THE VETERINARIAN. 
          SHE WAS TOLD SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO CALL IN AND SHE WASN'T ABLE TO. 
          AND SO I'M GOING TO DELIVER THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE WE FEEL IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HEAR FROM THE EXPERTS WHO ARE ALSO INVOLVED, UM, IN THIS, THIS VERY COMPLEX ISSUE, HOWEVER COMPLEX THAT IT IS, WE FEEL THAT THERE IS RESOLUTION THAT CAN BE FOUND. 
          SO THANK YOU AGAIN. 
          DEAR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AS A VETERINARIAN IN SAN ANTONIO FOR 22 YEARS WITH EXPERIENCED PET STORE OPERATIONS, SHELTER, MEDICINE, HIGH VOLUMES, SPAN NEUTER WORK, EMERGENCY MEDICINE, AND GENERAL PRACTICE. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME THOUGHTS ON THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION. 
          I'M AN OPPOSITION TO THE BAN ON PET STORES. 
          SALES PUR, UH, PURPOSELY BRED PUPPIES. 
          IT IS A MISTAKE TO THINK THAT ALL DOG BREEDERS ARE HIGH PRODUCTION OPERATIONS WITH NO REGARD FOR WELLBEING OF THE ADULT DOGS OR THE PUPPIES THAT THEY SELL. 
          I HAVE VISITED BREEDING FACILITIES AND I HAVE SEEN HOW GOOD IT CAN BE. 
          IT CAN BE WONDERFUL. 
          MOST BREEDERS GET INTO THE BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY LOVE DOGS. 
          CHERISH THEM AS COMPANIONS, JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO RUN ANY OTHER ANIMAL CENTERED BUSINESSES. 
          ETHICAL PET STORES CHOOSE TO USE ONLY U SS D A INSPECTED BREEDERS AND THE STORE OWNERS HAVE VISITED THE SITES AND SEEN THE OPERATIONS, WHICH IS LOCATED OFTENTIMES AT A FAMILY HOME OR FARM. 
          I'VE PERSONALLY SEEN THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE DOGS AND PUPPIES AND CAN ATTEST TO THE EXISTENCE OF IDEAL LIVING CONDITIONS AND SOCIAL ACTIVITY PROVIDED BY GOOD BREEDERS. 
          THE ROLE OF PET STORES IS LARGELY TO SELECT QUALITY PUPS FROM HEALTHY ADULT DOGS AND CARING BREEDERS. 
          CITIZENS COUNT ON THEM TO SCREEN BREEDERS FOR CLEAN AND ETHICAL MANAGEMENT OF THEIR BREEDERS AND GENETIC QUALITY AND QUANTITY OF THE PUPPIES AND PERSPECTIVE. 
          NEW DOG OWNER MAY NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE OR DIRECT PERSONALITY TO ASK IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OF A BREEDER, LIKE, ARE THE PARENTS O F A CERTIFIED FOR HIP CONFIRMATION? OR THAT A PARTICULAR BREED HAS A GENETIC TENDENCY TO EYE PROBLEMS, AND HAVE THE PARENT DOGS BEEN EXAMINED FOR THAT? OR ARE THE PARENTS ON A VACCINE SCHEDULE, OR DID A VET EXAMINE THE PUPPIES AND DESIGN A VACCINE PROTOCOL FOR THEM? OR DID THE BREEDER JUST GO, WHAT? GET WHATEVER FED FEED STORE VACCINE THEY 
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COULD OVER THE COUNTER AND JUST GIVE IT TO THAT PUP. 
          THE PET STORES I WORK WITH REFUSE TO USE BREEDERS THAT HAVE FAILED U S D A INSPECTIONS OR THAT HAVE A RECORD OF PROVIDING PUPPIES WITH ANYTHING OTHER THAN OPTIMAL HEALTH. 
          I WORK WITH THEM TO IDENTIFY PROBLEM BREEDERS, AND I ALSO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE BREEDERS REGARDING THE PRESENCE OF GENETIC AND CONGENITAL PROBLEMS FOUND IN THEIR PUPPIES, WHICH OFTEN ARE NOT APPARENT UNTIL LATER IN LIFE. 
          BY THE TIME A PUPPY REACHES THE STORE, IT HAS BEEN EXAMINED BY THREE DIFFERENT VETERINARIANS. 
          IT IS A RECORD OF VETERINARY HEALTH AND AND INCLUDING PREVENTATIVE CARE, PARASITE CONTROL, AND EARLY VACCINES. 
          I BELIEVE THE REGULATION OF A COMMERCIAL DOG BREEDING IS BEST DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL. 
          THE ATTEMPT TO DISCOURAGE PEDIGREE DOG SALES LOCALLY IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THE DESIRED EFFECT OF CREATING MORE HOMES FOR SHELTER DOGS. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          THANK YOU, MS. FERNANDEZ. 
          VICKI STEERMAN, VICKI STEERMAN, ANALCO GONZALEZ, FOLLOWED BY SANDRA NUTTING. 
          MORNING COUNCIL MAYOR. 
          UH, AND I WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY FIRST TO THANK Y'ALL. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST TIME BACK, MY FIRST TIME HERE. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU ALL HAVE DONE DURING THIS, UH, COMPLEX TIME WITH A LOT OF NEEDS. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL AND THANK THE STAFF AS WELL. 
          UM, I TYPICALLY DON'T COME UP HERE AND SPEAK, AND THE REASON WHY I AM IS BECAUSE AS YOU HEARD FROM, AND I THINK THERE'S BEEN SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS, MIS CLARIFICATIONS, THERE'S SOME CONFUSIONS ABOUT STORES AND WHICH STORES, AND WE'RE HERE ONLY TO, TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF, UH, MR. MORENO, DAVID AND JAIME EVA, WHO ARE LOCAL OWNERS OF PETLAND SAN ANTONIO, UM, WHO HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 10 YEARS, WHO EMPLOY, UM, UPWARDS OF 30 PEOPLE DURING A TIME WHERE JOBS ARE SO IMPORTANT. 
          AND ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR, WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS. 
          WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT NEEDING TO PASS AN ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. 
          WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT WORKING WITH A C S AND SHELTERS. 
          UM, THE GENTLEMEN HAVE ALREADY OFFERED TO CONTINUE ENHANCING THEIR COLLABORATION AND SUPPORT OF SHELTERS IN A C S MODIFYING THEIR STORE TO BRING IN AND FEATURE SHELTERED ANIMALS IN THERE. 
          UM, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, I THINK THERE WAS A SUGGESTION EARLIER THAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FIRM. 
          WE, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR SIX DAYS, AND SO ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO LOOK AT THE LANGUAGE THEY FELT. 
          UM, CLEARLY THEY WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THE DISCUSSION FOR AN INDUSTRY AND THAT THEY REPRESENT FOR OVER 10 YEARS BEING LOCALLY BASED. 
          WE FELT THEY SHOULD HAVE A VOICE. 
          UM, AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR HERE. 
          UM, WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, OVER THE PAST SIX DAYS HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE ANIMALS. 
          I MEAN, I'LL TELL, I I GREW UP IN A HOUSEHOLD WHERE WE COULDN'T AFFORD AN EXPENSIVE ANIMAL. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAD A, MY FIRST DOG WAS CHACHA AND THEN IT WAS CALLED, UM, AND THEN I HAD A MLO AND THOSE OF YOU THAT THAT KNOW MOVIES, YOU KNOW, WHERE MLO WAS INFLUENCED FROM. 
          UM, JUST A, A FEW YEARS AGO, WE PURCHASED MY TWO NEPHEWS, A DOG FROM A SHELTER. 
          UH, SHE'S BEAUTIFUL, SHE'S BLIND, UM, AND SHE'S THEIR BEST FRIEND. 
          AND THESE GENTLEMEN, I THINK REPRESENT, UH, A SECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR, BUT ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH THE SECTOR THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS TRYING TO ADDRESS. 
          SO WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL RECONSIDER THIS. 
          GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. 
          HAVE THESE VOICES THAT WERE EXCLUDED, UH, INCLUDED. 
          UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO ASK THEM, WE'D WE'D URGE YOU ALL TO PLEASE DO SO. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MR. GONZALEZ. 
          SANDRA NUTTING, FOLLOWED BY KATIE HIRO. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          MY NAME IS SANDRA NETTING AND I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          I FOSTER SPECIAL NEEDS DOGS FOR AN INDEPENDENT RESCUE IN CANADA. 
          JUST OH, OKAY. 
          UM, FOR AN INDEPENDENT RESCUE IN CANADA, BUYING PUREBRED PUPPIES FROM STORES WHEN THEY'RE GETTING THEM FROM PUPPY MILLS IS THE LAST THING. 
          IF EVER THE CITY NEEDS TO CONSIDER PUPPY MILLS ARE CRUEL. 
          THE FORCED OVERBREEDING OF THESE DOGS IS HORRIFIC, TO SAY THE LEAST. 
          THERE IS NO LOVE OR CARE FOR THESE POOR SOULS, JUST DOLLAR MACHINES. 
          THESE DOGS ARE SOLD AT INFLATED PRICES FOR, FOR PROFIT ALONE. 
          PEOPLE BUY THESE DOGS AND THEN START BREEDING THEM, CREATING MORE OF THE SAME WITH PET OVERPOPULATION IN THIS CITY. 
          WE, IN THE RESCUE FOSTERING COMMUNITY ARE TIRED AND FRUSTRATED WITH THE LACK OF RESPONSIBILITY OF OWNERS AND THE LACK OF THE LACK AND ENFORCEMENT OF LAWS AND REGULATIONS REGARDING SPAYING, NEUTERING AND ABUSE THAT PLAGUES THE CITY AND TEXAS AS A WHOLE. 
          THE FOSTERS I HAVE AT THIS MOMENT ARE PARALYZED, BUT I HAVE A FRENCH BULLDOG, A SHIHTZU, AND A YORKIE. 
          AND 
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OVER THE YEARS OF FOSTERING, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY MORE. 
          THEY'RE NO LONGER PERFECT OR PROFITABLE FOR THE BREEDERS, THE PET STORES, AND OBVIOUSLY TO THEIR OWNERS THAT CLAIM TO LOVE THEM. 
          THEY WOUND UP AT KILL SHELTERS EITHER BROUGHT THERE BY THEIR OWNERS OR AFTER BEING THROWN OUT LIKE GARBAGE CAUGHT BY ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS. 
          SAN ANTONIO NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND NOT LET STORES SELL PUPPIES FROM PUPPY MILLS. 
          THE STORE SHOULD ONLY ADOPT OUT DOGS AND CATS FROM CITY SHELTERS SO THEY CAN STOP EUTHANIZING PERFECTLY HEALTHY PETS FOR SPACE. 
          THIS CAN BE THE FIRST STEP IN GETTING A HOLD OF THE PET OVERPOPULATION OF DOGS AND CATS IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOT THE LAST OR EVEN CLOSE TO THE LAST THING THAT THIS NEEDS TO, THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. NUTTING. 
          KATIE YARO, FOLLOWED BY RITA RODIGAN. 
          GOOD MORNING MARINE BERG AND COUNCIL. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED A C S ORDINANCE TODAY. 
          MY NAME IS KATIE JARL COYLE, AND I AM THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE UNITED STATES. 
          I AM ALSO A SAN ANTONIO RESIDENT AND THE DISTRICT EIGHT APPOINTEE TO THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST INTAKES IN THE COUNTRY, SOMETIMES TAKING IN UPWARDS OF 1000 PETS PER MONTH. 
          OUR LOCAL SHELTERS AND RESCUES WORK TIRELESSLY TO FIND LOVING HOMES FOR THESE ANIMALS, BUT ARE FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE. 
          WHILE THESE ORGANIZATIONS WORK TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE IN OUR CITY, PET STORES ARE IMPORTING HUNDREDS OF DOGS INTO SAN ANTONIO FROM OUT OF STATE. 
          THIS ORDINANCE WILL DRIVE THE PET MARKET TOWARDS MORE HUMANE SOURCES AND ENCOURAGE PET STORES TO BE A PART OF THE PET OVERPOPULATION SOLUTION. 
          SOME OF THOSE 1000 PLUS DOGS A MONTH THAT A C S TAKES IN COULD BE SHOWCASED AT THESE FORMER PUPPY SELLING STORES AND EXPOSED TO A WHOLE NEW AUDIENCE OF POSSIBLE ADOPTERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. 
          WHILE OTHER TEXAS CITIES HAVE PASSED OUTLAWING ALL PET SALES, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS DO NOT PREVENT PET STORES FROM SELLING AND MAKING A PROFIT FROM DOG SOURCED FROM SHELTERS AND RESCUES. 
          A LOCAL PET STORE IN UNIVERSAL CITY HAS PROVEN HOW SUCCESSFUL THIS MODEL CAN BE AFTER VOLUNTARILY CHOOSING TO SELL DOGS AND CATS EXCLUSIVELY FROM A C S POLLY'S PETS IS THRIVING AND HAS SINCE ADOPTED OUT MORE THAN 1000 PETS FROM THEIR STOREFRONT. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, THE ANIMALS CURRENTLY ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR IN SAN ANTONIO COME FROM SOME OF THE WORST PUPPY MILLS IN THE COUNTRY. 
          THE DOCUMENTATION DOESN'T LIE. 
          DESPITE WHAT YOU HAVE HEARD TODAY, WE HAVE SHOWN YOU THE CDIS FROM EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE PET STORES HERE IN SAN ANTONIO TO PROVE EXACTLY WHERE THESE PUPPIES ARE COMING FROM. 
          THIS ORDINANCE IS AS MUCH A CONSUMER PROTECTION ISSUE AS AN ANIMAL WELFARE ISSUE. 
          A HUMANE PET STORE ORDINANCE WILL PROTECT CONSUMERS FROM BEING MANIPULATED INTO PREDATORY LENDING AND FINANCING SCHEMES THAT ALLOW ANY PERSON, EVEN THOSE WITH BAD CREDIT, TO PURCHASE A PUPPY WITH A STICKER PRICE OF SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS ONLY TO BE LATER HIT WITH HIGH INTEREST RATES. 
          LAST YEAR, THE MEDIA REPORTED ON A FAMILY THAT FINANCED A $3,200 PUPPY FROM PUPPY LAND IN WASHINGTON STATE. 
          THE SAME OWNERS OF PUPPY LAND IN SAN ANTONIO AFTER BEING TOLD BY THE PET STORE, THEY WOULD HAVE PAYMENTS AS LOW AS $100. 
          IN REALITY, PAYMENTS, PAYMENTS WERE MORE THAN DOUBLE THAT AMOUNT OVER 29 MONTHS, BRINGING THE TOTAL COST FOR THAT PUPPY TO $7,279. 
          YOU'LL HEAR TODAY FROM A SMALL HANDFUL OF PET STORES THAT IF THIS ORDINANCE PASSES, THEY WILL RELOCATE OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS OR MOVE AWAY ENTIRELY. 
          THE FACT IS THAT FIVE TEXAS CITIES, 360 MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THREE STATES HAVE ALREADY PASSED SIMILAR LAWS. 
          THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL FOR THIS UNSUSTAINABLE BUSINESS PRACTICE. 
          SAN ANTONIO HAS THE CHANCE TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY, TAKING A STRONG STAND AGAINST THE CRUEL PUPPY MILL INDUSTRY, AND THOSE THAT EXPLOIT PUPPIES FOR PROFIT. 
          I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU VOTE YESTERDAY AND HELP MAKE OUR CITY MORE HUMANE FOR THOSE THAT WE CALL FAMILY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. GERALD RITA BROGAN, FOLLOWED BY STACY SUTTON. 
          KIRBY, GOOD MORNING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. 
          IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL. 
          MY NAME IS RITA BROGAN. 
          I SERVE ON THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES ADVISORY BOARD PROUDLY REPRESENTING DISTRICT FOUR, AND I AM ALSO CHAIR OF THE ADVISORY BOARD AS THE APPOINTED REPRESENTATIVE, I COME TO YOU TODAY TO PUBLICLY SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDED POLICY CHANGES REGARDING ITEM 32. 
          IN THE PAST 10 YEARS, I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO BE PART OF THE TRANSFORMATION OF A C S AS A BOARD MEMBER. 
          I WAS PART OF THE CHANGE THAT TOOK PLACE IN F Y 2012 WHEN A C S WAS EUTHANIZING NEARLY THREE QUARTERS OF ALL OF THE PETS WHO WERE IMPOUNDED, 
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I AND FELLOW A C S BOARD MEMBERS HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN MANY OTHER CHANGES THAT HELPED TAKE A C S FROM ONE OF THE WORST IN THE NATION TO ITS CURRENT 92% LIVE RELEASE RATE. 
          WHILE WE RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT TO BE DONE, MY EXPERIENCE HAS SHOWN ME AND THE OTHER MEMBERS OF A C S BOARD THAT SAN ANTONIO IS A VERY COMPASSIONATE CITY AND IS WILLING TO STEP UP TO MAKE HARD CHANGES, TO MAKE THE LIVES OF OUR PETS MORE HUMANE. 
          SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE REACH OUT TO ASSIST THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING. 
          WE CONTINUE TO OPEN OUR DOORS TO HELP THOSE HELP THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR PETS. 
          AS A RESULT OF NATURAL DISASTERS, WE REGULARLY ASSIST THOSE IN NEED THAT ARE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          IT IS THE BELIEF OF THE ADVISORY BOARD THAT SAN ANTONIO CAN AND SHOULD EXTEND THIS SAME LEVEL OF COMPASSION AND CONCERN TOWARDS THOSE PETS BEING INHUMANELY BRED IN OTHER STATES. 
          BEING SOLD HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, THE A C S ADVISORY BOARDS SUPPORTS THE PROPOSAL TO PROHIBIT THE COMMERCIAL SALE OF PUPPIES AND KITTENS IN SAN ANTONIO PET STORES. 
          IN ORDER TO HELP ENSURE THAT SAN ANTONIO PLAYS NO PART IN THE INHUMANE BREEDING PRACTICES THAT OCCUR OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE ENFORCEMENT OF ILLEGAL BACKYARD BREEDING PRACTICES NEEDS TO BE REMA, NEEDS TO REMAIN A FOCUS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THIS WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES IN THE FUTURE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS. 
          THE CURRENT LAWS COMBINED WITH THE ABILITY TO INCREASE FINES AS OUTLINED IN THIS PROPOSAL, WILL GIVE A C SS A FRAMEWORK OF SUCCESS IN THEIR LOCAL ENFORCEMENT EFFORT. 
          THIS IS ANOTHER REASON A C S SUPPORTS THIS CHANGE. 
          IT IS NOT OUR INTENT TO TELL BUSINESSES HOW TO RUN THEIR OPERATION. 
          HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT THE HISTORY OF A C S AND SAN ANTONIO CONTINUES TO SHOW THAT ANY ORGANIZATION OR BUSINESS CAN MAKE ESSENTIAL AND PROFITABLE CHANGES WITHOUT BEING DEPENDENT UPON AN INHUMANE BREEDING INDUSTRY THAT OFTEN PLACES POTENTIAL PROFITS ABOVE HUMANE TREATMENT OF PETS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BRANIGAN, STACEY SUTTON, KIRBY, MS. SUTTON KIRBY, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY ABIGAIL. 
          REAL GOOD MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING TESTIMONY ON THIS ITEM TODAY. 
          MY NAME IS STACEY SUTTON KIRBY, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT RELATIONS AT THE TEXAS HUMANE LEGISLATION NETWORK. 
          WE ARE A TEXAS-BASED NONPROFIT THAT WORKS PRIMARILY DOWN AT THE LEGISLATURE TO PASS HUMANE LEGISLATION, BUT WE ALSO SUPPORT FOLKS WORKING ON HUMANE ORDINANCES AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. 
          I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE WE ARE NOT A NATIONAL GROUP. 
          WE DON'T GET MILLIONS OF DOLLARS . 
          WE ARE TEXAS CITIZENS, VOTERS, CONSTITUENTS WHO WANNA SEE MORE HUMANE LAWS AND ORDINANCES PASSED FOR OUR COMMUNITIES. 
          I'M HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CITY'S CODE IN RESTRICTING THE SALE OF COMMERCIALLY BRED PETS AT PET SHOPS. 
          THERE ARE NUMEROUS REASONS FOR DOING THAT. 
          I'LL JUST FOCUS ON A COUPLE STEMMING THE FLOW OF DOGS FROM OPERATIONS THAT PRODUCE AS MANY PUPPIES AS POSSIBLE AND PRIORITIZE PROFITS OVER THE WELLBEING OF THOSE ANIMALS WILL BENEFIT FOLKS IN SAN ANTONIO WISHING TO ADD A NEW FURRY FAMILY MEMBER TO THEIR HOUSEHOLD. 
          THE PUPPIES THAT DO COME FROM THOSE LARGE SCALE BREEDING FACILITIES ARE VERY VULNERABLE TO DISEASE AND DEFECT, AND THOSE ISSUES ARE EXACERBATED WHEN THE PUPPIES ARE REMOVED AT A VERY YOUNG AGE WHEN THEIR IMMUNE SYSTEMS HAVEN'T COME ONLINE AND THEY ARE SHIPPED HUNDREDS OF MILES FROM THEIR POINT OF ORIGIN. 
          THE AMENDED ORDINANCE WILL PROTECT FAMILIES FROM UNWITTINGLY PURCHASING A PET FROM SUCH A FACILITY. 
          ADDITIONALLY, BANNING, EXCUSE ME, ADDITIONALLY, RESTRICTING THE SALE OF COMMERCIALLY BRED PETS WILL SAVE THOUSANDS OF LIVES A YEAR. 
          IT'S NOT A BAN. 
          WE HAVE HEARD TESTIMONY ON THAT. 
          UM, THE ADOPTABLE PETS THAT HAVE BEEN VETTED BY THE CITY'S ANIMAL SERVICES WILL HAVE BEEN SPAYED, NEUTERED, VACCINATED. 
          WE'LL KNOW WHAT THE HEALTH CONDITION OF THOSE ANIMALS ARE, AND SAN ANTONIO AND TAKING THIS STEP FORWARD WOULD BE JOINING THE RANKS OF AUSTIN FORT WORTH, EL PASO, THE COLONY, AND WACO IN STEERING FAMILIES TOWARDS THOSE PETS THAT ARE ALREADY WAITING FOR FAMILIES. 
          I DID WANT TO VERY QUICKLY TOUCH ON AN ITEM THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT U SS D A INSPECTIONS. 
          THOSE INSPECTIONS 
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OF LARGE SCALE BREEDING FACILITIES HAVE PLUMMETED UNDER THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION AND REGULATION AT THE STATE LEVEL IS ACTUALLY THREATENED WITH ABOLISHMENT. 
          THE UM, LICENSED BREEDER PROGRAM THAT IS OPERATED BY THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATION IS, HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TO BE ABOLISHED. 
          AND SO THE TREND IN BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE OVERSIGHT OF LARGE SCALE BREEDING FACILITIES IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY DOES PUT CITIES IN THE POSITION OF HAVING TO DO EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO STEM THE FLOW OF PUPPIES FROM THOSE TYPES OF FACILITIES. 
          IN CLOSING, I JUST WANNA SAY I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND COMMEND THE, UH, FOLKS WHO HAVE, UM, CONDUCTED THE SURVEYS AND GOTTEN INPUT FROM THE CITIZENS OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND WE, UM, ASK THAT YOU VOTE YES ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SUTTON KIRBY, ABIGAIL AL, MS. AL, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY LUCY SANCHEZ. 
          HELLO, MY NAME IS ABIGAIL AL AND MY HUSBAND AND I ARE PART OF THE RESCUE COMMUNITY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THERE IS A SAYING AMONGST US RESCUERS, AND IT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS. 
          SAN ANTONIO IS A GREAT CITY UNLESS YOU'RE A DOG. 
          THE REASON BEING IS THAT THIS CITY CANNOT SEEM TO GET IT STRAIGHT AND UNWANTED DOG POPULATION UNDER CONTROL. 
          AS I'M SURE MANY OF YOU KNOW, OUR LOCAL SHELTER MUST SOMETIMES EUTHANIZE PERFECTLY HEALTHY DOGS DUE TO OVERCROWDING. 
          A LOT OF THESE DOGS HAVE SO MUCH LOVE TO GIVE. 
          SOME OF THESE DOGS WERE SURRENDERED TO THE SHELTER AFTER BEING LOYAL COMPANIONS TO THEIR FAMILY SIX PLUS YEARS AND WILL DIE ALONE. 
          SOME OF THESE DOGS HAVE BEEN ABUSED AND NEGLECTED AT THE HANDS OF HUMANS, BUT SOMEHOW STILL TRUST AND LOVE. 
          SOME OF THESE DOGS HAVE THE CRITERIA TO BECOME FANTASTIC SERVICE OR THERAPY. 
          DOGS YET NEVER GET THE CHANCE BECAUSE THEY RUN OUT OF TIME AND GET EUTHANIZED. 
          THERE ARE ALSO PLENTY OF PURE BRS THAT END UP IN THE SHELTER THAT END UP AT RISK AS WELL. 
          I'VE ACTUALLY HAD TO HELP REHOME A FEW DOGS THAT WERE PURCHASED FROM PETLAND. 
          THANKFULLY, THERE'S A VILLAGE OF SELFLESS PEOPLE IN THIS CITY THAT WORK TIRELESSLY DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO TRY AND SPARE AS MANY DOGS' LIVES AS POSSIBLE. 
          THESE PEOPLE CONSIST OF RESCUES THAT DON'T GET ANY DAYS OFF. 
          THEY USUALLY RUN OFF OF DONATIONS, BUT MUST REACH DEEP INTO THEIR OWN POCKETS TO COVER BOARDING, VETTING, AND SUPPLIES. 
          THEY'RE USUALLY IN OVER THEIR HEADS AND EXPERIENCE THE HEARTBREAK WHEN THEY MUST TURN A DOG DOWN BECAUSE THEY THEMSELVES DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM. 
          THESE PEOPLE CONSIST OF VOLUNTEERS THAT GO TO THE SHELTER, GET TO KNOW THE DOGS, AND ADVOCATE FOR THEM IN HOPES THAT WILL SAVE THEIR LIFE. 
          THESE PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT OPEN THEIR HOMES TO FOSTER DOGS THAT NEED A PLACE TO STAY, JUST TO BE JUST TO DODGE BEING EUTHANIZED. 
          THIS VILLAGE CONSISTS OF PEOPLE THAT SPEND THEIR HARD-EARNED MONEY ALL THEIR TIME AND GIVE THEIR HEART TO THESE DOGS BECAUSE WE KNOW EVERY SINGLE ONE IS DESERVING OF LIFE. 
          WE AS A RESCUE COMMUNITY DO THIS BECAUSE WE GENUINELY CARE, BUT WE ARE TIRED AND WE CAN'T KEEP UP. 
          TO ALLOW PET STORES TO SELL PUPPIES THAT AREN'T FROM RESCUES OR LEGITIMATE BREEDERS IS A BIG SLAP IN OUR FACE. 
          AS MANY STEPS AS THE RESCUE COMMUNITY TAKES FORWARD, PUPPY SELLING PET STORES BRINGS US A THOUSAND STEPS BACK. 
          PUPPIES SELLING PET STORES, INHIBIT DOG ADOPTIONS IN OUR CITY AND PROMOTE THE SELLING OF SICK UNHEALTHY PUPPIES. 
          I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE CONDITIONS OF A LOT OF THESE PUPPIES ARE IN THAT ARE SOLD AT PET STORES FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. 
          I USED TO FREQUENT ONE OF THE PET STORES ON MY LUNCH BREAK. 
          ON MANY OCCASIONS, THERE WERE SIGNS ON THE KENNEL SAYING, CAN'T PLAY FEELING UNDER THE WEATHER. 
          ONE TIME IN PARTICULAR, I WENT TO THIS PET STORE AND SAW SO MANY PUPPIES THAT LOOKED ILL. 
          ONE PUPPY LOOKED AS IF IT HAD DISTEMPER. 
          IF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS, YOU KNOW IT'S HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS AND REQUIRES EXTENSIVE VETTING. 
          HE HAD MUCUS COMING FROM HIS NOSE AND EYES AND HE WAS STANDING UP, SLUMPED OVER AND LOOKED TO HAVE UNCONTROLLABLE MUSCLE SPASMS. NOT ONLY DID HE LOOK HORRIBLE, BUT HE WAS LAYING ON THE HARD WIRE SITTING IN HIS OWN FECES IN URINE WHILE THE EMPLOYEES SAT THERE ON THEIR PHONE. 
          HE WAS NOT ONLY THE ONE LAYING, HE WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE LAYING IN HIS OWN FECES IN URINE. 
          THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PUPPIES THAT HAD FILTHY KENNELS. 
          THESE PUPPIES ARE IN TERRIBLE CONDITIONS COME FROM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. RIEL. 
          LUCY SANCHEZ, FOLLOWED BY CATHERINE MCKEE. 
          HELLO, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          MY NAME IS LUCY, AND I BEGAN WORKING AS A ACCOUNT TECHNICIAN AT SAN ANTONIO'S PETLAND, THE VINEYARD IN THE SUMMER OF 2015. 
          BECAUSE OF MY LOVE FOR ANIMALS, I LEFT AFTER A LITTLE OVER A YEAR WHEN IT BECOME CLEAR TO ME THAT THE STORE OWNERS AND SALES STAFF CARED MORE ABOUT PROFIT MARGINS THAN THE WELLBEING OF THEIR PUPPIES. 
          I URGE YOUR SUPPORT ON THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES PET STORE ORNAMENTS OR ORDINANCE, EXCUSE ME. 
          UH, FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. 
          PETLAND TREATS THE PUPPIES THEY SELL LIKE COMMODITIES. 
          BOTTOM LINE, NOT LIVING, BREATHING CREATURES. 
          I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT THAT THE ONLY VETTING PROCESS FOR A CUSTOMER TO BUY A PUPPY WAS THAT THEY HAD TO PASS A CREDIT CHECK. 
          THERE WERE NO REFERENCES OR QUESTIONNAIRES LIKE WHAT YOU GO THROUGH IN ADOPTING AN ANIMAL FROM A SHELTER OR RESCUE. 
          I 
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CAME TO THINK OF MOST PETLAND EMPLOYEES LIKE USED CAR SALESMEN SINCE THEY ONLY CARED ABOUT MAKING THE MOST COMMISSION POSSIBLE OFF A PUPPY. 
          THEY COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT FINDING THE RIGHT DOG FOR THE RIGHT PERSON, WHICH IS THEIR MAIN MANTRA AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME, ONE OF THE BUSIEST TIMES FOR PUPPY SALES. 
          I REMEMBER BEING WORRIED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PUPPIES OUR STORE OWNERS WANTED TO CRAM INTO KENNELS. 
          PUPPIES SHOULD NOT BE TREATED LIKE A COMMODITY THAT NEEDS TO BE STOCKED UP ON ANOTHER SHOCKING DISCOVERY WHILE WORKING AT PETLAND WAS SEEING THE DELIVERY OF PUPPIES TO THE STORE. 
          WE RECEIVE SHIPMENTS OF DOZENS OF PUPPIES EVERY WEEK FROM BREEDERS HUNDREDS OF MILES AWAY. 
          MULTIPLE PUPPIES WERE CONFINED IT EACH OF THE SMALL CAGES IN THE TRUCK AND WERE USUALLY COVERED IN THEIR OWN FECES AND URINE. 
          MOST OF THE PUPPIES WERE NOT ONLY DIRTY, SOME WERE UNDERWEIGHT, EXHAUSTED, OR UNHEALTHY. 
          EACH PUPPY WOULD BE EXAMINED BY A VETERINARIAN A DAY OR TWO AFTER THEY ARRIVED AT OUR STORE. 
          BUT THE EXAMS WERE BASIC AND ONLY LASTED A HANDFUL OF MINUTES, WHICH ISN'T ENOUGH TIME TO FULLY ASSESS A PUPPY'S WELLBEING. 
          SO OFTEN PUPPIES CAME IN WITH COCCIDIA, GIARDIA, PARVOVIRUS AND HYPOGLYCEMIA. 
          YET PUPPIES WHICH WERE PURCHASED FOR HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS FROM BREEDERS WERE RESOLD TO CUSTOMERS FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, SOME IN THE TENS OF THOUSANDS, AND CUSTOMERS WOULD HAVE LITTLE TO NO CLUE OF THEIR PUPPIES HISTORY BEFORE PURCHASING THEM AT PETLAND. 
          DURING THE TIME I WORKED THERE, THE STORE CONTINUOUSLY RECEIVED A SUPPLY OF BULLDOGS FROM A BREEDER THAT REGULARLY SENT PUPPIES WITH PARVO. 
          A HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS VIRUS THAT IS OFTEN FATAL, ALTHOUGH EASILY PREVENTABLE WITH A VACCINE. 
          BULLDOGS ARE VERY POPULAR. 
          THEY SELL QUICKLY AND ARE ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE DOG BREEDS. 
          SO THE STORE OWNERS AND STALE STAFF ALWAYS WANTED THEM IN STOCK. 
          ONE OF THE BULLDOGS THAT CAME IN WHILE I WAS THERE WAS SO SICK. 
          WE ENDED UP TAKING HER TO THE VET AND SHE DIED A FEW DAYS LATER FROM PARVOVIRUS. 
          THE OWNERS AND SALES STAFF KEPT THE WHOLE THING QUIET AND DIDN'T WANT US, THE KENNEL STAFF TO SAY ANYTHING IN FRONT OF CUSTOMERS ABOUT A PARVO OUTBREAK IN OUR KENNEL. 
          THIS MADE NO SENSE TO ME. 
          I THOUGHT THERE SHOULD BE A HUGE SIGN ON THE DOOR AND THE SALES STAFF SHOULD TELL ALL POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS ABOUT WHAT THEY COULD BE POTENTIALLY TAKING HOME WITH THEM AND INFECTING THEIR OTHER DOGS AT HOME. 
          WITH I'D BEEN IN THE TRENCHES AND BEHIND THE SCENES AT PETLAND, AND THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE MANY PROBLEMS I WITNESSED IN THE SHORT TIME I WORKED THERE. 
          I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO SELL OR HANDLE PU PUPPIES ANYMORE. 
          THE ANIMAL CARE SERVICES PET STORE ORDINANCE IS THE RIGHT THING FOR PUPPIES AND POTENTIAL DOG OWNERS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. SANCHEZ. 
          CATHERINE MCKEE. 
          MS. MCKEE, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY FRANK BERNIE. 
          GOOD MORNING. 
          I'M NERVOUS. 
          , THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE HERE TO PROVIDE, UH, GOOD STATISTICS, SOLID STATISTICS ABOUT OUR POPULATION OF STRAYS AND INHUMANE PRACTICES THAT ARE KNOWN WITHIN THE CITY ALREADY. 
          UM, I'M GONNA SPEAK TO YOU JUST AS A CITIZEN RESIDENT OF SENATOR ANTONIO. 
          SO , UM, I JUST WANNA BE ABLE TO WALK MY DOG SAFELY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          I CAN'T CURRENTLY, THERE ARE PACKS OF DOGS UNTIL WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH REGULATIONS AND LAWS OR WHATEVER, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO BE MORALLY FLAWED. 
          UM, WHEN IT COMES TO, TO THE SITUATION NOW OF HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESTRICT PUPPY MILLS AND DO THAT, WE NEED TO STEP UP. 
          OUR CITIZENS LIKE ME FEEL SOMEWHAT HELPLESS. 
          WE NEED OUR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TO HELP, YOU KNOW, SAN ANTONIO BECOME THE BEST IT CAN BE. 
          WE NEED YOU TO PROVIDE THAT STRUCTURE. 
          OTHERWISE WE JUST FEEL KIND OF HELPLESS. 
          SO AS WE RAISE OUR CHILDREN WHO WILL BE THE NEXT RESIDENTS OF SAN ANTONIO AND THEY SEE US TURN OUR HEAD AND NOT DO ANYTHING, WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT THERE'S ABUSE AND NEGLECT HAPPENING, THAT SENDS THE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE OKAY WITH THAT, THAT'S DAMAGING. 
          WHEN WE PURCHASE A PUPPY THAT QUITE LIKELY COULD HAVE COME FROM A PUPPY, PUPPY MILL. 
          WE NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE NOW FINANCIAL PARTNERS WITH THE PUPPY MILLS AND THE RETAILERS THAT SELL THOSE PUPPIES. 
          BAD MESSAGE. 
          SO WE NEED CITY COUNCIL TO PASS THESE REGULATIONS, ENFORCE THEM, ADDRESS THE, UM, STRAY POPULATION. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE UNDERSTAFFED IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE NEED THIS. 
          WE NEED THIS SO THAT WE CAN GROW INTO BEING EVEN A BETTER CITY THAN WE ALREADY ARE. 
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THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MS. MCKEE. 
          FRANK BERNIE, FOLLOWED BY ALLISON GODDARD. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR. 
          MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, FRANK BERNIE AND I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          YOU KNOW, IN TOUGH CASES LIKE THIS, SOMETIMES IT'S BEST TO GO BACK TO THE EXPERTS ON THIS AREA AND HERE WITH ANIMAL CARE SERVICES IN YOUR, IN YOUR ADVISORY BOARD. 
          THEY ARE PROBABLY THE BEST PERFORMING, UH, AGENCY IN THE, IN THE CITY BECAUSE OF THE TURNAROUND ON THE NEW NO KILL RATE. 
          AND I THINK THAT HIS STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THESE CHANGES TO HELP HIM GET TO A FULL A HUNDRED PERCENT NO KILL RATIO HERE IN THE CITY. 
          HE'S TELLING YOU HE NEEDS THIS SUPPORT, HE NEEDS THESE CHANGES TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. 
          UH, AND SO IS YOUR ADVISORY BOARD. 
          AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S THE MOST CRITICAL EVIDENCE BEFORE YOU TODAY IS THESE PEOPLE THAT HAVE DONE THE GREAT JOB THEY'VE DONE OUT THERE IN THE ANIMAL  SERVICES NEED TO BE, NEED YOUR SUPPORT, AND THEY ARE THE BEST EXPERTS ON THIS MATTER. 
          THE OTHER THING I LOOK AT PETLAND, AND I WANTED TO ASK MYSELF, PETLAND IS ONE OF THE 10 LARGEST PET SUPPLY COMPANIES IN THE COUNTRY. 
          OKAY? IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT SELLS LIVE ANIMALS. 
          THE ONLY ONE OF THE TOP 10 IN THE COUNTRY. 
          YOU'VE GOTTA ASK YOURSELF WHY DO THEY NEED TO HAVE IS IF ALL THE OTHER COMPANIES, NINE OUT OF THE TOP 10 COMPANIES, MAKE, MAKE A LIVING AND, AND CAN DO SO BY DOING ADOPTIVE EVENTS AND PROMOTING ADOPTIONS. 
          WHY CAN'T THEY FOLLOW THAT BUSINESS MODEL? WHY DO THEY HAVE TO BE CALLED OUT BY THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA WHO SUED PET LAND IN THIS, IN FLORIDA THIS SUMMER, CLAIMING THAT THE SALE OF SICK AND DYING PUPPIES IS IMMORAL AND ILLEGAL? THE FLORIDA AG SUED THEM FOR PREDATORY PRICING, FOR PREDATORY LOANS, AND FOR VIOLATING, UH, THE, THE CARE AND AND FEEDING OF THESE ANIMALS. 
          UM, THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE I REALLY WANNA FOCUS ON IS THIS DELAY. 
          I KNOW ALL THE ORDINANCES HAVE AN EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY 1ST. 
          I THINK THIS ORDINANCE SHOULD TOO AS WELL. 
          IF THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, IF REALLY DEEP DOWN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, WHY WOULD YOU DELAY IT? WHY WOULD YOU WAIT ANOTHER SIX MONTHS FOR EVERY MONTH THAT YOU DON'T PASS THIS ORDINANCE? THERE ARE GONNA BE FEWER PUPPIES ADOPTED. 
          AND I WOULD URGE YOU STRONGLY TO THINK ABOUT HAVING THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF JANUARY ONE. 
          THERE'S NO PROBLEM. 
          THEY HAVE THE CURRENT INVENTORIES THAT ARE AT PETLAND AND ANY OTHER STORES, THEY CAN, THEY CAN SELL THOSE ANIMALS UNTIL JANUARY 1ST. 
          CHRISTMAS IS THE BIGGEST TIME OF THE YEAR TO SELL ANIMALS. 
          IT'S NOT GONNA BE A FINANCIAL INCONVENIENCE FOR THEM. 
          BUT THERE'S NO ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO EXTEND THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE PAST JANUARY ONE. 
          IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          THIS CITY HAS ALWAYS, AND THIS COUNCIL IN PARTICULAR, HAS ALWAYS BEEN VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IT WANTS TO BE AS A CITY. 
          THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. 
          IT, IT LEADS US TO BE A LEADER WITH 350 OR 380 OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO BAN THIS HUMANE PRACTICE OF ALLOWING THESE PUPPY MILLS TO CONTINUE. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. 
          THANK YOU, MS. BURN. 
          MR. BERNIE ALLISON GODDARD. 
          MS. GODDARD, YOU'LL BE FOLLOWED BY SUSAN HENRY. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON, CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR. 
          I WANNA THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME AND THE OTHER MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY. 
          THIS IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART. 
          OVERPOPULATION IS STILL A VERY PREVALENT, PREVALENT PROBLEM THAT PLAGUES OUR CITY. 
          THESE PUPPY STORES WE ARE DISCUSSING SELL THEIR PUPPIES FOR $3,500. 
          THEY BUY THEIR PUPPIES FROM PUPPY MILLS, AND THEIR PUPPIES ARE EXTREMELY UNHEALTHY AND PLAGUED WITH LIFELONG HEALTH ISSUES. 
          MOST PUPPIES ARE SOLD TO THESE PET STORES FOR $75 EACH. 
          THAT IS A 4660% MARKUP. 
          WHEN THEY SAY IT'S NOT ABOUT MONEY, I I DON'T SEE HOW IT'S NOT. 
          I HAVE A VERY GOOD FRIEND WHO BREEDS GREAT DANES AND HER DOGS WHEN SHOWS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. 
          SHE BREEDS HER DOGS AT A PROPER AGE OF THREE TO FOUR YEARS OLD. 
          SHE HAS HER DOGS GENETICALLY TESTED FOR ANY DEFECTS BEFORE BREEDING THEM. 
          THE MOTHERS GET SONOGRAMS TO MAKE SURE THE PUPPIES ARE GROWING AND THRIVING. 
          HER DOGS LIVE TO BE 12 TO 13 YEARS OLD. 
          A A VERY FEW OF THE VERY FEW OF THESE THING, UH, OTHER FEW THINGS THAT SHE DOES IS ALL HER PUPPIES COME WITH A LIFETIME GUARANTEE ON CERTAIN THINGS. 
          UH, A LIFETIME SUPPORT FOR THE OWNERS OF THE DOGS. 
          PLUS SHE WILL TAKE BACK THE DOGS AT ANY POINT IN THEIR LIFE IF THE OWNERS BECOME SICK, DIE, LOSE THEIR JOBS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, NO QUESTIONS ASKED. 
          SHE CHARGES $2,500 FOR THE PUPPIES THAT IS A THOUSAND TO $1,500 LESS IN THE PUPPY STORES WHO DO NONE, NONE OF THESE THINGS FOR THEIR PUPPIES. 
          THAT IF I, I HAVE MENTIONED ABOVE, I HAVE FOSTERED MY SHARE OF SICK PUPPIES. 
          I JUST LOST MY SWEET FOSTER FRANCIS TO DISTEMPER ON TUESDAY. 
          I WORKED TIRE TIRELESSLY 
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TO SAVE HER LIFE WITH MANY OTHERS WHO VOLUNTEERED THEIR SUPPORT AND HELP. 
          I WOULD NOT WISH ANOTHER PERSON TO EVER HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY, MANY OF THESE PUPPIES WHO COME FROM THESE PET STORES ARE SICK WITH PARVO, DISTEMPER, AND MANY OTHER DIFFERENT HEALTH ISSUES DUE TO IMPROPER BREEDING. 
          THEY HAVE VERY SHORT LIVES DUE TO IN BREEDING OVERALL, THE PEOPLE WHO BREED AND SELL THESE PUPPIES CLEARLY ONLY HA ONLY CARE ABOUT FINANCIAL GAIN. 
          I TRULY HOPE THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY PROBLEMS WE NEED TO ADDRESS, NOT TO MENTION THE OVERPOPULATION OF ANIMALS WE HA ALREADY HAVE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND THIS IS JUST ADDING TO IT. 
          I HOPE YOU CAN FIND IN YOUR HEARTS TO STOP THE CELLS OF PUPPIES AS THIS IS NOT ONLY HURTING OUR CITY, BUT THE PEOPLE WHO BUY THESE PUPPIES AND HAVE LI WHO DEAL WITH THE LIFELONG PROBLEMS DUE TO HOW THEY'RE BRED. 
          I HOPE OUR CITY CAN TAKE A STANCE AGAINST THE PUPPY STORES AS OTHER CITIES ALREADY HAVE. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO ME. 
          THANK YOU, MS. GODDARD. 
          SUSAN HENRY. 
          HI, MY NAME IS SUSAN HENRY AND I'M A DISTRICT SIX RESIDENT. 
          UM, I FOSTERED DISABLED AND PARALYZED DOGS THAT WERE HIT BY CARS BECAUSE THEY WERE LEFT LOOSE TO ROME OR THEY WERE DUMPED BY THE OWNER OUT ON THE STREETS. 
          UM, I'M ALSO A VOLUNTEER FOR AN ORGANIZATION CALLED BAILING OUT BENJI. 
          UM, THEY'RE A NONPROFIT THAT DOES RESEARCH AND EDUCATION ON COMMERCIAL BREEDERS AND PUPPY MILLS. 
          UM, SO AS YOU'VE SEEN THE CBIS, I BELIEVE ALREADY, THEY'VE BEEN SENT TO YOU BY HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          UM, THOSE BAILING OUT. 
          BENJI DOES PUBLIC RECORD REQUESTS FOR THOSE CBIS AS WELL. 
          AND, UM, THEY'RE REQUIRED BY U S D A WHEN DOGS ARE SHIPPED OR TRANSPORTED ACROSS STATE LINES. 
          UM, SO THESE PET STORES HAVE MANY OF THEIR PUPPIES COMING FROM JACK'S PUPPIES IN BRITT, IOWA, WHICH YOU GUYS WILL SEE ON THOSE CBIS. 
          UM, THEY WERE NAMED ONE OF THE WORST PUPPY MEAL BROKERS IN THE COUNTRY BY THE HUMANE SOCIETY. 
          UM, JACK'S WAS ALSO INVESTIGATED AND SUED BY THE IOWA ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR CHARITY FRAUD 'CAUSE THEY STARTED A SHAM RESCUE IN ORDER TO LIE ABOUT THE PUBLIC IN ORDER TO LIE TO THE PUBLIC AND TRY AND CIRCUMVENT THE CALIFORNIA LAW. 
          BANDING RETAIL SALES OF COMMERCIALLY BRED PUPPIES BY SAYING THEY WERE FROM A RESCUE. 
          UM, ADULT BREEDING DOGS IN THESE COMMERCIAL BREEDERS ARE ONLY REQUIRED BY THE U SS D A TO HAVE SIX INCHES OF SPACE IN THEIR CRATES. 
          AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO EVEN BE LET OUT OF THE CRATES IF THE FLOOR HAS A GRATE TO ALLOW URINE FECES TO PASS THROUGH. 
          SO THESE DOGS NEVER GET OUT OF THEIR CRATES FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. 
          UM, THE, THE ADULT BREEDER DOGS, UM, PUPPY LAND AND PETLAND BOTH OFFER PREDATORY LENDING SUCH AS LEASES, HIGH INTEREST LOANS, 90 DAYS, SAME AS CASH FINANCING, UM, HIGH INTEREST CREDIT CARDS AND HIGH INTEREST LOANS. 
          UM, AND I HAVE A LIST OF ALL OF THOSE BANKS TOO THAT THEY UTILIZE IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SEE THOSE. 
          UM, AND THE PLACES THAT THESE ARE COMING FROM, THEY'RE INHUMANE AND IRRESPONSIBLE BREEDERS. 
          UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS WHO DO GENETIC TESTING. 
          UM, THEY REQUIRE SPAY NEUTER OF THEIR COMPANION ANIMAL DOGS, LIKE ONES THAT AREN'T SHOW QUALITY. 
          THEY REQUIRE THOSE TO GET SPAYED OR NEUTERED BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING RESPONSIBLE ABOUT BREEDING HEALTHY DOGS AND SHOW QUALITY DOGS, UM, THAT DON'T HAVE THINGS LIKE GENETIC HEART ISSUES AND HIP DYSPLASIA. 
          UM, PUPPY MILLS DON'T DO ANY OF THIS TESTING AND THEY DON'T REQUIRE THAT YOU SPAY OR NEUTER THESE DOGS. 
          SO THESE DOGS COMING IN OR HAVE MAJOR HEALTH PROBLEMS AND THESE PEOPLE WITH PREDATORY LOANS, FIGURING OUT HOW TO TRY TO PAY THEM BACK MAY END UP BREEDING THESE DOGS. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE GENETIC ISSUES HERE WITH DOGS, AND THAT IS AN EXPENSIVE LIFELONG BURDEN. 
          UM, ALSO THE RARE COLORS AND FUR PATTERNS ARE, UH, WORTH A LOT MORE MONEY. 
          AND, BUT THESE COME FROM RECESSIVE GENES. 
          UM, SO THEY'LL INBRED TO GET THOSE COLORS, WHICH ALSO MEANS THEY INCREASE THE CHANCES OF PUPPIES WITH CONGENITAL HEALTH ISSUES THAT OFTEN DON'T SHOW UP UNTIL WELL AFTER THAT HEALTH GUARANTEE IS OVER. 
          UM, COMMERCIAL BREEDING AND PUPPY MILLS ARE EXPLOITING INNOCENT SOULS FOR MONEY AND THEIR PARENTS ARE KEPT IN PAIN AND LIVE IN FILTH. 
          AND IS THAT WHAT WE WANNA SUPPORT? I DON'T THINK WE DO. 
          THANK YOU, MS. HENRY. 
          THANK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE WHO, UH, CAME OUT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM TODAY. 
          UM, I DO WANNA NOTE FOR THE RECORD, UH, AS OF THIS MORNING, WE DID, UH, RECORD, UH, 243 WRITTEN COMMENTS IN SUPPORT OF THE ITEM IN 54 COMMENTS, UM, IN OPPOSITION TO THE ITEM. 
          WE'LL GO NOW TO THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION. 
          WE'LL START WITH COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE COMMUNITY WHO MADE THE TIME TO BE HERE A THURSDAY AT 9:00 AM MAYBE YOU WERE WORKING FROM HOME COMFORTABLY, UH, BUT YOU MADE THE TIME TO BE HERE, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          UM, 
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I DO THINK WE HAVE TO WORK, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE TO RESOLVE THAT CALL IN ISSUE FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO, TO CALL IN. 
          UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR WORK. 
          THANK YOU, HUBER. 
          I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN, UH, THIS HAS BEEN SHOWTIME FOR YOU THIS WEEK. 
          YOU'VE BEEN, UH, IN MEETING TO MEETING TO MEETING. 
          AND I ALSO WANNA THANK THE A C S ADVISORY BOARD, INCLUDING MY REPRESENTATIVE, MS. VALERIE MOORE FOR ALL OF THEIR ADVOCACY. 
          AND I'D BE REMISS IF I DID NOT THANK ALL OF THE RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS IN SAN ANTONIO AND BEXAR COUNTY FOR THEIR SELFLESS VOLUNTEER WORK OVER THE YEARS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE WOULD BE WITHOUT YOU. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH, HEBER. 
          I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT FOR THE, FOR THE REGULATION. 
          I KNOW WE, FOR THE ORDINANCE CHANGES, I KNOW WE'VE HEARD THIS AT, UH, MY COMMITTEE TWICE. 
          YOU'VE DONE AN EXTENSIVE SURVEY. 
          YOU TALKED ABOUT MEDIA OUTREACH. 
          YOU SAID THAT ONE OF YOUR GOALS WAS TO REACH A DIVERSE GROUP OF RESIDENTS. 
          CAN YOU TELL ME HOW DIVERSE THAT OUTREACH WAS? WHAT, WHAT GROUPS OF RESIDENTS WERE YOU LOOKING FOR? YEAH, SO THE, THE EFFORTS THAT WE ENGAGED IN IS TO BE ABLE TO GET A DIVERSE ACROSS THE SPAN OF MORE OF A GEOGRAPHICALLY DIVERSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, ALL ASPECTS OF, OF SAN ANTONIO, UH, WE WERE PULLING RESIDENTS FROM, FROM ALL ASPECTS. 
          UH, SO THAT DID REQUIRE, LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FIRST SURVEY WE WENT THROUGH AND WE FOCUSED ON TRYING TO GET AS MANY AS POSSIBLE, UM, THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, UH, NOT JUST OUR SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT THE CITY'S SOCIAL MEDIA THROUGH, UH, NEWSPAPER, THROUGH MARKETING, THROUGH UM, UH, ADS, UH, NEXT DOOR AND SO FORTH AND SO ON. 
          WHEN WE WENT THROUGH THE SECOND SURVEY, THE INTENT WAS WE NOTICED THAT IN THE FIRST SURVEY THAT THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICTS THERE WERE SOME DISTRICTS THAT HAD A HIGHER PARTICIPATION RATE THAN OTHER DISTRICTS. 
          AND SO WE WENT, WHEN WE WENT BACK TO THAT SECOND, UM, SURVEY, WE REALLY PLACED A LOT OF THOSE EMPHASIS IN THOSE, THOSE DISTRICTS THAT PREVIOUSLY DID NOT HAVE AS MANY, UH, RESPONDENT'S, UH, PARTICIPATION. 
          AND SO, AND AS IN, IN THE GRAPH, YOU WERE ABLE TO SEE THAT IN THAT SECOND SURVEY, UM, THAT IN THOSE AREAS THAT WERE UNDERREPRESENTED IN THE FIRST SURVEY, THAT WE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE REPRESENTATION FROM THOSE AREAS. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT. 
          I'M, I'M GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO INCREASE, UH, PARTICIPATION IN, IN THOSE DISTRICTS. 
          I, I DO HAVE TO ASK, AND, AND I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT OF THE STORE OWNERS. 
          AT WHAT POINT DID THAT BEGIN? IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THEY WOULD BE THE CRITICAL STAKEHOLDERS AS PART OF THIS PROCESS. 
          SO CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHEN YOU BEGAN TO ENGAGE WITH THEM? YEAH, SO FROM OUR STANDPOINT OF, UH, AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS, THE VOICE OF THE, THE PET STORES IS WELL-DOCUMENTED AND WELL-KNOWN. 
          AND SO I WILL ADMIT THAT A LOT OF THE FOCUS WAS GETTING THE INTEREST AND THE PERCEPTION OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO AND THE RESIDENTS WITHIN OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS NOT A NEW INITIATIVE. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE ELSEWHERE. 
          UH, THERE'S 280 CITIES WHERE THERE IS WELL-DOCUMENTED VIEWS OF OPPOSITION FOR AND OPPOSITION AGAINST. 
          AND SO I DO BELIEVE THAT IN OUR RESEARCH THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. 
          NOW I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS THAT, UH, DID NOT SPEAK DIRECTLY AND REACH OUT DIRECTLY TO THE THREE LOCAL PET STORES. 
          AND SO OVER THE COURSE OF LAST WEEK, I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT AS THEY PRESENTED THEMSELVES AND SAID, HEY, I, I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THAT, I, I BASICALLY MADE SURE THAT I WAS ABLE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          AND EVEN IN MY CONVERSATIONS UP TO LAST NIGHT AND MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM, I WAS ASKING THEM, WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION DO WE NEED? BECAUSE EVEN AS OF LAST NIGHT, I WAS PREPARED TO PRESENT THE RECOMMENDATION TO STAFF TO DELAY, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GET MORE. 
          BUT AT THAT POINT, FROM ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD, UM, IN MY OPINION, THAT WE, WE WERE TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THOSE CONCERNS AND THERE WERE NOT ANY NEW CONCERNS BEING BROUGHT FORWARD THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD CHANGE THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          I, I THINK THAT'S A LOGICAL, UH, EXPLANATION. 
          UH, I, I RESPECT THE INFORMATION THAT YOU'VE PULLED TOGETHER AND ALL OF THE RESEARCH THAT YOU DID. 
          I WOULD SAY IN, IN THE FUTURE, AND NOT JUST FOR THIS PROCESS, BUT PROBABLY FOR OTHERS, I THINK OUT OF RESPECT FOR LOCAL BUSINESS OWNERS, WE, WE PROBABLY WANT TO EXTEND THEM THAT COURTESY EARLY ON. 
          I KNOW I WOULDN'T LIKE IT IF SOMEONE SAID, I, I'VE RECORDED THE 
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COMMENTS OR THE OPINIONS OF LATINA WOMEN, UH, IN THIS AGE RANGE. 
          UH, SO WE DON'T NEED TO ASK YOU WHAT, WHAT YOU THINK. 
          I I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T APPRECIATE THAT. 
          SO I THINK MAYBE JUST GOING FORWARD, AND AGAIN, NOT JUST FOR A C SS AND I, I'VE MENTIONED THIS TO JEFF, UM, THAT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD PROBABLY, UH, DO NOW, I, I DO WANNA, AND, AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR SPENDING SO MUCH TIME MEETING WITH ALL OF THE PET OWNERS, REVIEWING ALL OF THEIR INFORMATION AND RESPONDING THOROUGHLY TO THAT THE PET STORE OWNERS. 
          I MEAN, NOW THE ADVISORY BOARD HAD SOME MEMBERS HERE TODAY, UH, WHO ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. 
          HAVE THEY SIGNED A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THIS OR TAKEN ANY FORMAL ACTION? SO, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD. 
          THEY REVISED, THE BOARD REVISED THEIR POSITION STATEMENTS, UH, OFFICIALLY. 
          AND IN THAT POSITION STATEMENT, IT DOES INDICATE THAT THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CITI DOES, UM, PROHIBIT THE CELL OF PETS FROM, FROM PET STORES. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO TO KNOW. 
          UM, IT, SO MY, MY LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH, UH, THE U S D A, UH, CERTIFICATION THAT SOME OF THE PET STORE OWNERS ARE REFERRING TO. 
          WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY WAS THAT THAT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH, THAT THAT STILL CREATES SOME, THAT THERE ARE STILL HUMANITARIAN OR, SORRY, ETHICAL CONCERNS WITH THE U S D A CERTIFICATION. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO BASED UPON THE DIRECTION THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST MANY YEARS, UH, WE HAVE RAISED THE STANDARDS FOR THE PETS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND SO I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UH, THE U SS D A STANDARDS, THE MINIMUM STANDARDS ARE NOT REFLECTANT OF THE VALUES AND OF THE CITY, UH, OF THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY IS GOING INTERNALLY. 
          UH, IF, IF THERE WAS A BREEDER THAT WAS U S D A THAT WAS LIVING BY THE U S D A MINIMUM STANDARDS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, UH, THEY WOULD BE ISSUING CITATIONS, UH, BEING ISSUED CITATIONS AND BASICALLY BEING INSTRUCTED THAT THEY NEEDED TO CHANGE THEIR PRACTICE AND BECOME MORE HUMANE OR LEAVE THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. 
          THAT'S VERY GOOD INFORMATION. 
          AND THERE IS NO FEDERAL REGULATORY, UH, OTHER STANDARD THAT WE COULD TURN TO CORRECT. 
          OR EVEN A, A PRI A ONE THAT'S ISSUED BY A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION LIKE U S D A PLUS OR, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? NO, NO. 
          SO IT WOULD, SO WE HAVE NO, NO WAY OF REGULATING THAT OR OF ENSURING THAT LOCALLY THAT THEY WOULD MEET ANY HIGHER STANDARDS. 
          SO WE HAVE NO WAY, BUT ALSO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO, OR CITIES IN GENERAL ARE, ARE NOT THE AGENCIES TO REGULATE INTERSTATE COMMERCE OR ACTIVITIES GOING ON. 
          THAT IS AT THE LEVEL OF THE STATE AS WELL AS AT THE LEVEL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. 
          AND SO EVEN OUR CHAPTER FIVE CODE, UH, IS NOT INTENDED TO REGULATE BUSINESS OR IN, OR REGULATE. 
          UM, IT IS TO SET STANDARDS OF WHAT THE PROPER CARE. 
          AND SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, I RECOGNIZE THAT THERE ARE, THERE ARE WEAKNESSES ON A, ON A FEDERAL LEVEL, ON A STATE LEVEL, THAT THAT NEEDS TO MAKE CHANGE SO THAT AS A CITY WE CAN BE ENSURED THAT THE ANIMALS THAT ARE COMING INTO OUR CITY ARE BEING CARED FOR IN A HUMANE AND MANNER, UH, HUMANE CARE. 
          UM, UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS NOT THE ROLE, IT CAN'T BE THE ROLE OF THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. 
          AND SO UNTIL THOSE CHANGES CAN BE MADE, THIS RECOMMENDATION IS SAYING THEN WE ARE NOT GOING TO, WE'RE NOT GONNA ASSOCIATE WITH THAT PRACTICE AT ALL. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          I, I ALSO WISH T C E Q AND E P A HAD HIGHER STANDARDS, BUT UH, THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT THAT EITHER, SO. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          I'VE, I'VE RECEIVED NEARLY 60 LETTERS IN SUPPORT FROM THE RESIDENTS AND CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT SEVEN, RECEIVED A LOT IN OPPOSITION, BUT FROM OUT OF TOWN, UH, FROM HE LOTES, NEW BRAUNFELS. 
          SO, UH, I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, SO, UH, MOVE TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR APPROVAL OF ITEM 32. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          AND THANK YOU, HUBERT FOR THE INFORMATION THAT YOU SHARED WITH ME LAST NIGHT. 
          I APPRECIATE THE WEBSITE, UM, AS WELL THAT YOU CREATED WITH SOME OF THE FACTS AND, UM, MYTHS OUT THERE. 
          I, MY QUESTION IS GOING TO START OFF WITH THE ESSAY SPEAK UP SURVEY, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL CONDUCTED, UM, TWO SURVEYS. 
          AND BY THE WAY, I DO WANNA TAKE THE TIME TO THANK RITA, UH, WHO SERVES AS OUR APPOINTEE FOR DISTRICT FOUR AND IS ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE A C S ADVISORY BOARD. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. 
          SHE KEEPS ME INFORMED. 
          WE TRY TO MEET QUARTERLY AND, UH, UP TO DATE, I, UM, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE ESSAY SPEAK UP, AND THIS ACTUALLY, UH, RIGHT AWAY, UH, 
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WHEN COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL JUST ASKED ABOUT HER QUESTION ABOUT THE OUT OF TOWN, THAT WAS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. 
          SO I NOTICED THAT IN THE SEPTEMBER, UH, OR NO, ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY, IN THE, UM, AS I SPEAK UP THAT WE HAD OPENED FROM JULY 1ST TO JULY 31ST, 2019, WE RECEIVED 3,200 RESPONSES. 
          WELL, 3,215 TO BE EXACT, 384 OR 12% WERE FROM OUTSIDE THE CITY. 
          AND, UM, THAT CONCERNED ME. 
          AND THERE WAS 969, UH, ABOUT 30% THAT WERE UNKNOWN. 
          WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT COUNCIL DISTRICT OR FOR THAT MATTER, MAYBE THEY'RE OUTSIDE. 
          SO MY FIRST QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU, UH, THAT SELF-REPORTED, UM, AND YOU WHEN YOU CLICK ON THERE, BUT HOW DO WE GO BACK AND, AND, AND VERIFY THAT THE THE DATA THAT WE RECEIVED WAS INDEED REPRESENTATIVE, REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR RESIDENTS IN SAN ANTONIO AND NOT PERHAPS OUT OF TOWN INTEREST? SO WITH IT BEING A ESSAY SPEAKUP SURVEY, I'M GONNA CALL AND SEE IF JEFF CAN HELP WITH THE GENERAL POLICIES ON THAT. 
          SURE. 
          THANKS. 
          HI, COUNCILWOMAN. 
          UM, THAT, THAT 30%, BY THE WAY, OF NOT KNOWING THEIR COUNCIL DISTRICT IS PRETTY STANDARD ACROSS OUR SA SPEAKUP SURVEYS, WE SAW A SIMILAR RESULT IN THE BUDGET SURVEY. 
          UM, WE DON'T GO BACK AND VERIFY THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY PROVIDE AN ADDRESS THAT WE GO SEARCH. 
          BUT BY ASKING THE COUNCIL DISTRICT, WE GENERALLY ASSUME THAT SOMEBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY LIVE AND IS AND IS IDENTIFYING THEMSELVES AS SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, YOU'RE RIGHT, PEOPLE CAN, UH, TAKE THE SURVEY FROM OUTSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY IF THEY WANT. 
          UM, BUT GENERALLY THIS IS MARKETED PROMOTED IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          IT'S BEEN ON SAN ANTONIO MEDIA, SOCIAL MEDIA WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          UH, AND, AND THAT SAID THAT THAT'S WHERE WE DRAW MOST OF OUR, OUR AUDIENCE FROM. 
          I ALSO, UH, JUST WHILE I'VE BEEN GIVEN THE CHANCE TO STEP UP HERE, THE, UM, UH, COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL HAS MENTIONED THE IDEA OF US, UH, TARGETING STAKEHOLDERS WITH FUTURE WORK, AND WE'RE DOING SOME WORK WITH ESSAY 2020 ON ESSAY SPEAKUP RIGHT NOW. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT. 
          BUT I WILL SAY, AS HEBREWS POINTED OUT, NOBODY HAS BEEN EXCLUDED FROM THIS SURVEY. 
          THIS HAS BEEN BROADLY COMMUNICATED FOR, UH, A YEAR AND A HALF AT THIS POINT. 
          SO WHATEVER INTEREST, UH, SOMEONE MIGHT COME FROM, THE OPPORTUNITIES HAVE BEEN THERE, THE PROMOTION HAS BEEN THERE TO GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AND, AND, UH, THE RESULTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE. 
          SURE. 
          AND JEFF, THAT LEADS ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION. 
          SO THIS IS GOOD THAT YOU'RE UP HERE BECAUSE THEN I NOTICED THAT THE SURVEY THAT WAS SENT OUT AS I SPEAK UP AND SO THAT YOU'RE REPORTING OUT FOR SEPTEMBER, 2020, HOW ABOUT A THIRD OF THE RESPONDENTS? SO WE HAD 1000 RESPONSES THERE, AND IT SEEMED TO BE STILL THAT THERE WAS, UM, PLENTY OF OUT OF TOWN RESPONSES AS WELL AS, UH, UNKNOWN RESPONSES. 
          AND SO WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS THE DIFFERENCE THERE IN WHEN YOU WERE PUSHING THE, UH, SURVEY? WELL, I BELIEVE HE CAN PROBABLY SPEAK TO THIS BETTER, BUT I BELIEVE THE SECOND SURVEY WAS A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IS THAT CORRECT? I THINK IT WAS MUCH SHORTER. 
          I'LL, I'LL LET YOU ANSWER THAT, BUT I'LL, THE SECOND SURVEY WAS A LITTLE BIT SHORTER, BUT THE INSTRUCTION I GAVE TO STAFF WAS TO FOCUS MORE ON MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE WORD OUT INTO THOSE AREAS THAT PREVIOUSLY WERE A LITTLE BIT LOW. 
          AND SO I WILL BE HONEST AND SAY THAT THE INSTRUCTION OF STAFF IS TO FOCUS ON THE QUANTITY OF DISTRIBUTING IT VERSUS THE QUA, UH, SORRY, THE QUALITY AND THE DISTRIBUTION VERSUS THE QUANTITY OF, OF RESPONDENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU KEEPER. 
          AND THEN COUNCILMAN MY NAME. 
          SORRY TO INTERRUPT. 
          IF I COULD ADD ONE THING, THAT SECOND SURVEY TOOK ME. 
          AND SO THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ENGAGEMENT IN PERSON OUTREACH, THAT SORT OF THING WAS, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED AS A RESULT OF THAT AS WELL. 
          THE, THE EARLIER STUDY WAS INCLUDED ALL THE GROUND GROUNDWORK. 
          THANK YOU, JEFF. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW WHO COULD ANSWER THIS NEXT QUESTION FOR ME. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOU OR HEBER, BUT WHO WROTE THE QUESTIONS FOR THE SURVEY AND ACTUALLY THEY WERE MORE, UH, STATEMENTS AND SO WAS KINDA LIKE, DO YOU AGREE, DO YOU DISAGREE? WHO, UH, DETERMINED THOSE STATEMENTS? I APOLOGIZE. 
          COUNCILWOMAN, WOULD YOU MIND RESTATING THE QUESTION? SURE. 
          WHO DETERMINED THE STATEMENTS THAT WENT ON THE SURVEY DRAFTED THE QUESTION. 
          THEY WEREN'T STATED AS SURVEY. 
          OH, GOTCHA. 
          SO A C S, SO A C S DRAFTED THE QUESTIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SPECIFICALLY, UM, WHAT KIND OF QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS WENT IN INTO LOOKING AT THE ISSUES THAT WERE PRESENTED AS IN AGREEMENT OR IN DISAGREEMENT? UH, SO WE BASICALLY IDENTIFIED LIKE, UH, WHERE THOSE RESPONSES WERE COMING FROM. 
          UH, THE QUESTIONS WERE STANDARD QUESTIONS THAT IDENTIFIED ON A SCALE OF 1, 2, 3, 4, WHERE DO THEY RATE THEMSELVES? UH, WE LOOKED AT IT FROM THE, UH, DISTRIBUTION BY COUNCIL. 
          WE LOOKED AT IT BY DISTRIBUTION FROM, UH, THE, 
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AND I'M SORRY, KEBER. 
          I, I I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. 
          MY QUESTION IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS WAS DONE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT QUESTIONS WE WERE ASKING. 
          AND SO THE REASON THAT I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE I'VE MENTIONED THIS BEFORE IN OUR ESSAY SPEAK UP SURVEYS, AND THIS COULD BE, UM, IT FOR ANYTHING, AGAIN, KINDA LIKE COUNCILMAN SANDOVAL TO, TO HER POINT EARLIER, UM, I AM JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE KEEP FROM PUTTING LEADING QUESTIONS OR LEADING STATEMENTS ON OUR SURVEYS. 
          AND SO I THINK THAT JEFF COYLE MENTIONED THIS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN I ASKED THE SAME QUESTION. 
          I THINK IT WAS ON, ON, I CAN'T, IT DEFINITELY WAS AN A C SS, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THERE WASN'T, THAT, THAT WE HAD SOME SORT OF AN ANALYSIS THAT LED US TO PLACE THESE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO CRAFTED THE QUESTIONS. 
          HOW WAS IT DETERMINED THAT WE WERE GOING TO ASK THESE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT ONES? THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT. 
          SO I, UH, AS WE BEGIN THIS PROCESS, UH, AGAIN, THERE'S THE TWO SURVEYS. 
          THE FIRST SURVEYS WAS JUST TO, UH, UNDERSTAND OF WHAT IS THE GENERAL TAKE. 
          AND SO, UH, I HAD QUESTIONS AND SO I INSTRUCTED STAFF OF SAYING, THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE, UH, TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT WE MOVE FORWARD AND STAFF THEN WORK TO BE ABLE TO WRITE THAT. 
          UM, I, I, I, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TYPE OF QUANTITATIVE, UH, ANALYSIS WAS DONE TO BE ABLE TO DONE, TO BE ABLE TO VALIDATE, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THOSE WERE MY QUESTIONS THAT I HAD AND STAFF PROCEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SO, AND I, I GUESS THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MY POINT WAS, UM, TODAY AND ASKING THAT I, I'M JUST TRYING TO SEE WHO'S PUTTING THESE QUESTIONS, UH, ON, RIGHT. 
          AND SO WHO'S ASKING? SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, YOU HAVE HAD GREAT EXPERIENCE AND SO I, I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S BEEN 10 YEARS OR SO, SO I COMPLETELY AGREE, FOR INSTANCE, THAT A STATEMENT LIKE, THERE ARE TOO MANY LOOSES AND UNKNOWN DOGS AND CATS WITHIN SAN ANTONIO. 
          I SEE WHERE YOUR EXPERIENCE WOULD HAVE LED YOU TO PUT THAT ON THERE. 
          BUT I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD HAVE HAD SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL INPUT FROM, FROM FOLKS RIGHT. 
          TO SEE WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS, RIGHT. 
          UM, GO ON, ON THIS SORT OF SURVEY. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TO FIGURE OUT LIKE, HOW DO WE DO THIS? AND THEN ALSO, UM, DO WE, DO WE KNOW IF WE ARE LOOKING TO, UM, I GUESS IT DID, WAS THERE ANALYSIS ALSO DONE ON HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS? AND I KNOW YOU ALL REFERENCED IT, UH, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS ON THERE. 
          ONE, SPECIFIC TO BUSINESSES BREEDING DOGS AND ONE SPECIFIC TO INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS BREEDING DOGS. 
          DO WE KNOW HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE BREEDING DOGS VERSUS HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE BREEDING DOGS? SO, UM, AS WE'RE, AND I APOLOGIZE, UH, THE NUMBER OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE BREEDING VERSUS THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE BREEDING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          YES. 
          UM, WE, THE NUMBER OF LICENSES THAT WE RECEIVED ARE FEW, UH, THAT THE REQUESTS THAT WE GET ARE VERY FEW. 
          UH, HOWEVER, UH, AS, AS POINTED OUT IN THE MEMO THAT WE, WE DO ISSUE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF CITATIONS FOR THOSE THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED ARE ILLEGALLY BREEDING. 
          UH, AND THIS ORDINANCE JUST ALLOWS US TO ADDRESS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES, WHICH IS IN SOME CASES, UH, SOME OF THESE LOCAL BREEDERS THAT ARE, UH, BEHAVING INAPPROPRIATELY ARE CONSIDERING THAT AS JUST PART OF BUSINESS. 
          UH, SO THIS ORDINANCE WILL HELP ADDRESS THAT ASPECT OF IT. 
          AND SO, YES, THAT IS STILL AN ISSUE. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON, UM, AND THIS ORDINANCE HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN WHAT OTHER CITIES DID WE, UM, UH, COMPARE OURSELVES TO? CAN YOU REMIND ME? HEBER? ALRIGHT, SAY THAT AGAIN. 
          WHAT OTHER CITIES DID WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO? WHAT OTHER CITIES DID WE COMPARE OURSELVES TO? YES. 
          AS FAR AS THE ORDINANCE, YOU, YOU, I, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, THE CITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED, BUT WHAT OTHER TEXAS CITIES SPECIFICALLY THE, THE, THE TEXAS CITIES THAT ARE, UH, APPLYING SIMILAR LAWS. 
          YOU HAVE, UH, WACO, FORT WORTH, AUSTIN, UM, AND EL PASO THAT HAVE SIMILAR LAWS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MY TWO FINAL QUESTIONS DEAL WITH HOW MANY PET SHOPS WILL BE AFFECTED, AND CONSEQUENTLY, HOW MANY PEOPLE, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UM, DO THEY EMPLOY EACH, DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION BY ANY CHANCE? SO I DO NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION ON THE EXACT NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES. 
          THERE ARE THREE, THERE ARE THREE BUSINESSES THAT, UH, WILL BE IMPACTED, UH, IN THE CITY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, HUBBERT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ROCHA GARCIA, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, JEFF, QUICK QUESTION TO FOLLOW UP WITH MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES ABOUT THE SURVEY. 
          UM, WHEN IT COMES TO A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS BEING NEW 
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OR THEIR MILITARY, THEY'RE LOOKING TO TAKE SURVEYS AND BE INVOLVED IN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          IS THERE A WAY WE CAN ADD MAYBE A ZIP CODE LINK THAT WOULD THEN ATTACH TO THE DISTRICT THAT THEY BELONG TO? UH, YES. 
          AND I BELIEVE WE DO, DO WE HAVE IT ON THIS ONE? I DON'T HAVE THE REPORT IN FRONT OF ME. 
          UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. 
          WE, WE'VE, WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE WITH OTHER SURVEYS. 
          UM, THERE'S A, THERE'S A SET OF, OF DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT OUR ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE, UH, REQUIRES ALL DEPARTMENTS TO DO WHEN DOING PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SURVEYS. 
          AND SO WE CAPTURE ALL THOSE GENDER, ETHNICITY, AGE, SO FORTH. 
          I'LL CHECK IF ZIP CODE IS IN THERE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, I'M NOT CERTAIN, I THINK WE'VE OPTED FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT IN THE PAST, BUT WE COULD GET MORE GRANULAR ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE IF WE WANT. 
          UM, A C S DID FOLLOW ALL OF THE STANDARDS IN THAT ADMINISTRATIVE DIRECTIVE, IN FACT, BY DOING TWO SURVEYS, UH, AND, AND, UM, AND THE RESULTS THAT THEY GOT, THIS WAS ONE OF THE BETTER EXAMPLES OF FOLLOWING SORT OF THE GUIDANCE IN TERMS OF HOW TO CONDUCT PUBLIC PARTICIPATION SURVEYS. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M THINKING THAT IF WE JUST KIND OF, WITH ALL OF OUR, OUR SURVEYS NOT SPECIFIC TO ANY DEPARTMENT, BUT JUST GOING THROUGH ESSAY SPEAK UP AND GOING THROUGH THE SOFTWARE OR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROGRAM, IF THERE IS A WAY THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT OUR ZIP CODES THAT ONCE A PERSON PUTS IN THE ZIP CODE, IT AUTOMATICALLY GENERATES THE DISTRICT. 
          YEAH, THERE'S A LITTLE CHALLENGE THERE BECAUSE THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS DON'T ALIGN WITH THE ZIP CODES. 
          SO WE'VE, WE'VE HAD THAT STRUGGLE BEFORE. 
          THERE, THERE ARE ZIP CODES THAT HAVE TWO DIS COVER TWO DISTRICTS, FOR EXAMPLE. 
          AND SO, UM, HISTORICALLY AS A BODY, THIS COUNCIL HAS OFTEN WANTED TO KNOW HOW DID MY DISTRICT RESPOND? WHAT DID THE PEOPLE IN MY COUNCIL DISTRICT TELL ME? SO WE'VE PRIORITIZED THAT OVER THE ZIP CODE, WHICH WON'T NECESSARILY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. 
          UH, IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT THOUGH. 
          WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO BOTH. 
          UM, AND, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT EVEN SURE THAT WE DIDN'T ON THIS ONE, BUT I'D HAVE TO STEP ASIDE AND, AND GO BACK AND LOOK. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU JEFF. 
          UM, HUBERT, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          AND TO YOU AND OUR A C SS FAMILY KNOW THAT YOU ARE CONTINUOUSLY IN OUR PRAYERS. 
          UM, AS YOU'RE GOING THROUGH SOME CHANGES IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, UM, WITH THE RATIFICATION OF THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, HOW CAN WE DO PET STORES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DRIVEN, UM, OUTSIDE OF, OF BREEDERS, UM, WITH, I THINK IT WAS PUPPY LAND. 
          HOW ARE WE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA CLOSE THEIR DOORS WITH THIS RATIFICATION? SO THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR HOW A BUSINESS CAN, UH, DO BUSINESS. 
          THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT DEMONSTRATES THAT THERE CAN BE SOME MODIFICATIONS. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I SHOULD BE THE ONE OR THAT WE, THAT WE WILL BE THERE TO ASSIST AND HELP. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESCUE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE, THAT WOULD BE WILLING AND READY TO PARTNER, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE LITTLE BIT OF THAT RELIEF AND TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT ASSISTANCE AND HELP. 
          UM, AS FOR, UH, AS FOR RESOURCES, UM, I WILL, UH, I WILL BE THERE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE IDEAS AND HELP, UH, IF THEY, IF THEY WANT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HOW WE CAN COLLABORATE, UM, A A TEAM TOGETHER OF NOT ONLY THE PET STORE OWNERS, BUT OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HERE, UH, WITH PETLAND AND TRULY COME UP WITH SOME FORM OF MAYBE AN M O U OR A CONTRACT WHERE THEY WORK TOGETHER, UM, SO THAT WE'RE NOT CLOSING SMALL BUSINESSES, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS CLIMATE. 
          UM, AND THEN WITH THIS ORDINANCE, ARE WE GONNA START SEEING EVEN AN INCREASE OF SIDE ROAD SALES OF OUR, OUR FURRY FRIENDS? UM, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? AND THEN HOW ARE WE GONNA TRULY ENFORCE THOSE THAT START TO DO THOSE SALES? SO WHEN WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE, THE GENERAL TREND, THE PETS THAT ARE BEING SOLD IN PET STORES ARE COMING FROM OUT OF STATE, DIRECTLY FROM, UM, FROM WHOLESALE BREEDERS OR FROM, UM, DISTRIBUTORS, UH, FROM OUT OF STATE. 
          UH, THOSE THAT ARE SELLING 'EM ALONG THE ROADSIDE ARE USUALLY THE BREEDERS OR THE, UH, THE BROKERS WHO ARE, WHO ARE ALREADY COMING INTO SAN ANTONIO TO BE ABLE TO, UM, TRY TO SELL THOSE PETS ALONG THE ROADSIDE. 
          UH, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT SOMEBODY COULD, UH, DECIDE THAT TO TAKE THEIR, TAKE THEIR SHOW ON THE ROAD AND BRING IT INTO SAN ANTONIO? UH, IF THERE ARE, WE WILL ENFORCE THAT. 
          AND WITH THESE LAWS WILL GIVE US THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THAT REGULATION TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO, UH, STOP THAT BEHAVIOR. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN CAN WE GET A REPORT, UM, ON EXACTLY 
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HOW MANY PERMITS WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF THE ONES THAT ARE DOING IT CORRECTLY? UM, AND THEN FIND OUT SOME OF THEIR BEST PRACTICES THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY USE TO HELP WITH THE STORES THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE DOING THE SALES? YEAH, SO WE CAN GET THAT. 
          I DON'T KNOW. 
          UM, WE CAN GET THE NUMBER. 
          I KNOW THAT THE NUMBER IS FAIRLY LOW, UH, HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE MOST OF THE HUMANE, UM, BREEDS NEED THE SPACE. 
          AND SO OFTENTIMES THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY LIMITS THAT ARE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY, UM, THAT ARE, UH, HUMANELY CARING FOR THOSE PETS. 
          UM, BUT WHEN THEY BRING THEM INTO SAN ANTONIO, THEY DO NEED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE LICENSE TO BE ABLE TO AUTHORIZE TO SELL IT. 
          AND IF THEY DO NOT, THEN WE WILL HOLD THEM RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, UM, THE LAST QUESTION THAT I'LL ASK AT THIS TIME IS WHAT IS THE REPORT HOTLINE OR THE CALL LINE THAT SOMEONE OR A STORE OWNER, UM, CAN CALL IF THEY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, UM, A BREEDER OR, UM, SOMEONE THAT IS COMING IN, UM, THAT THEY DO NOT FEEL IS ETHICALLY, UM, SELLING ANIMALS? 3 1 1. 
          THREE. 
          ONE ONE. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          AND DO WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION SPECIFICALLY ON 3 1 1 FOR IF YOU FEEL THERE'S AN ILLEGAL SALE OR THIS IS AN OUTSIDE BREEDER? OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AWESOME. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          YOU BET. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN, COUNCIL MEMBER GRO. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO'S COME OUT HERE TODAY TO SPEAK UP ON THIS MATTER. 
          THANK YOU TO, UM, MY APPOINTING MR. GARCIA TO THE ANIMAL CARE ADVISORY BOARD AND TO ALL OF YOU WHO SERVE ON THIS BOARD, UM, FOR US. 
          AND THEN TO ALL OF THOSE WHO HAVE CALLED AND WHO HAVE EMAILED OUR OFFICES ON THIS, UM, VERY IMPORTANT, VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC HERE. 
          AND I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF BY SAYING YOU'RE RIGHT, THIS DOESN'T, UM, WE PROBABLY, WE, NO, WE DON'T PROBABLY, WE'RE NOT GOING FAR ENOUGH WITH SOME ITEMS, BUT THIS IS A STEP, I THINK, A NECESSARY STEP OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE WE SHOULD NOT BE NORMALIZING, STRAY OR LOOSE OR ROAMING DOGS IN OUR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UM, BECAUSE JUST THIS MORNING AT MISSION MARQUEE PLAZA, THREE STRAY ANIMALS OUT THERE, DON'T GO OVER THERE YET, SHANNON. 
          UM, BUT THREE STRAY ANIMALS OUT THERE, ONE FEMALE IN HEAT, AND THEN TWO OTHER DOGS. 
          AND SO THAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE A GROWTH SPURT IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS TO BE HANDLED. 
          UM, SO I THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT STEP MOVING FORWARD. 
          I WANNA THANK YOU, HEBER, FOR YOUR WORK AND YOUR TEAM. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL OF THE COLLABORATION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. 
          THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO TOOK PART IN THE ESSAY SPEAK UP, UH, CAMPAIGN AND THE SURVEY. 
          I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. 
          UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I BELIEVE THIS IS, UM, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD IS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MAKING A LOT OF STRIDES IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE MUCH OF YOUR, YOUR WORK HERE, I'M GLAD WE ALL AGREE THAT BACKYARD BREEDERS ARE SOMETHING THAT WE ALL HAVE TO WORK HARD TOGETHER TO STOP AND TO CALL 3 1 1 WHEN WE SEE IT HAPPENING. 
          I KNOW IN DISTRICT THREE, WE'VE WORKED HARD WITH OUR BROOKS SPAY AND NEUTER FACILITY, THE FIRST SPAY AND NEUTER FACILITY FOR THE CITY ON THE SOUTH SIDE, THAT WE'VE GOTTEN MORE ANIMAL CARE SERVICE OFFICERS PER DISTRICT TO HELP. 
          WE KNOW THAT, WELL, WE MAY NOT KNOW, BUT IN THE FISCAL YEAR, 2020, 10,650 DOGS AND CATS WERE PULLED BY OUR RESCUE PARTNERS. 
          HOW MANY DOG OR CAT CARCASSES WERE PICKED UP BY SOLID WASTE IN F Y 2020 17,405 IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IN F Y 2020? AND HOW MANY DOGS WERE EUTHANIZED BECAUSE OF LACK OF SPACE? 714 DOGS WERE EUTHANIZED BECAUSE OF LACK OF SPACE. 
          WE HAVE SO MUCH WORK STILL TO DO, AND THIS IS ONE ITEM MOVING FORWARD THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON. 
          AND IT'S ALSO ALSO PET OWNER RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TO WORK ON AS WELL. 
          I AGREE. 
          WE DO NEED TO HAVE CONTINUED CONVERSATION WITH OUR SMALL BUSINESSES. 
          AND I THINK THE WORK THAT WE'RE, UM, DOING WITH OUR ECONOMIC WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND THE SMALL BUSINESS AND ADVISORY GROUP THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, UM, GIVE WISDOM AND GIVE INPUT INTO 
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THESE KIND OF ORDINANCES AND POLICIES THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. 
          I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE IS OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, AT A STATE LEVEL. 
          AND IF WE NEED TO ADVOCATE AT THE STATE LEVEL FOR LEGISLATURE, UM, TO LOOK AT THESE CHANGES, LET'S WORK ON THAT TOGETHER. 
          I DO HAVE TO, UM, I DO HAVE TO THANK AND CALL OUT KATIE JAR, UH, COYLE, WHO HAS BEEN A RELENTLESS ADVOCATE, UM, AT THE STATE AND KEPT ME PERSONALLY IN THE LOOP ON MANY THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING. 
          SO THANK YOU, KATIE, FOR YOUR ADVOCACY. 
          AND WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, EQUITY, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT EQUITY IS SOMETHING EXTREMELY IMPORTANT, OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS HERE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO SEE, UM, BECAUSE HEBREW, TO CLARIFY THIS, DOES NOT, PEOPLE STILL WITH, UM, CERTAIN CERTIFICATION THAT IS NOT GOING TO STOP, UM, THE ABILITY TO SELL ANIMALS THAT ARE PURE BRED, THAT ARE, HAVE A CERTAIN CERTIFICATION. 
          IS THAT TRUE? CORRECT. 
          SO ANY, ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO'S ABLE TO OBTAIN A BREEDER'S PERMIT AND A SELLER'S PERMIT IN SAN ANTONIO WILL CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO DO BUSINESS. 
          UH, WE DO NEED TO SURE THAT THEY ARE DOING SO IN AN ETHICAL AND A HUMANE MANNER, UH, THAT THE BREEDER'S PERMIT IS INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT THAT MOTHER, MOTHER, UM, MOTHER DOG IS NOT BEING BRED MULTIPLE TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT HAS A TIME TO BE ABLE TO RECOUP AND, UH, TO BE ABLE TO REST, UH, BETWEEN, UM, IT ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO INSPECT, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STANDARDS ARE THERE. 
          YEAH. 
          UH, IT IS NOT OUR INTENT TO STOP, UM, LOCAL BREEDERS. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, OUR CONCERN IS ON THE WHOLE CELL DISTRIBUTION MM-HMM. 
           OF BREEDERS THAT ARE GOING ON OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL. 
          CORRECT. 
          THE COMMERCIAL BREAD, UM, THAT WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BREAD COMMERCIALLY FROM THE WHOLESALE. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT POINT OF CLARIFICATION. 
          AND, UM, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS IMPORTANT, THAT WE'RE THE IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. 
          I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THIS. 
          AND WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT EQUITY, I MEAN PET LAND, THERE IS NO PET LAND SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN. 
          THERE IS NO PUPPY LAND SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN. 
          SO LET, THAT'S A CONVERSATION TO HAVE TOO, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE IN CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN, UM, ALL PARTS OF TOWN WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THIS, BUT HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY OUT FAR TO, TO GET THAT KIND OF SERVICE. 
          SO, UM, I DO WANT TO THANK EVERYONE. 
          I THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD. 
          BUT MAYOR, UM, ALTHOUGH I DO THINK THIS IS A GREAT STEP FORWARD, AND I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE, UM, TO AMEND THE MOTION TO APPROVE WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATE FOR ALL AMENDMENTS TO BE JANUARY 1ST, 2021. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT IS A MOTION. 
          UH, IS THERE A SECOND FOR THE MOTION? IT WOULD MAKE THE REQUIREMENTS EFFECTIVE ON JANUARY ONE? UH, MAYOR, I'LL WITHDRAW MY MOTION AND SECOND THE COUNCILMAN'S MOTION. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO, SO THE WAY SHE PHRASED IT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION. 
          WE WOULD VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO MAKE IT JANUARY ONE, AND THEN WE WOULD VOTE ON YOUR MOTION. 
          CORRECT. 
          IS THAT RIGHT, ANDY? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SOUNDS GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          IS THERE A SECOND ON THE MOTION FOR THE AMENDMENT? SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO THERE IS TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR, UH, THE BASE MOTION, WHICH WE WILL VOTE ON SECOND, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, WE WILL VOTE TO MAKE THE REQUIREMENTS EFFECTIVE ON JANUARY ONE. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER GRO, COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          HE, I HOPE YOU HAD A LITTLE REST FOR A MINUTE. 
          YOU WERE SITTING DOWN. 
          NOW I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO GET BACK UP. 
          COULD YOU TELL ME, UH, TELL US HOW MANY PET STORES SELL DOGS OR CATS IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO? THERE ARE NOW THREE OUT OF THE 50 AT 51 PET STORES. 
          WELL, BUT I MEAN, DOESN'T PETSMART A PETCO SELL DOGS AND CATS? THEY DO NOT. 
          SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY PROVIDE SPACE FOR A RESCUE AGENCY TO STEP INSIDE AND TO BE INDEPENDENTLY OPERATING, UH, IN THAT SPACE. 
          AND SO THAT'S HOW, UH, PETSMARTS PET SHOW, UH, OR THEY WILL CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR RESCUERS TO UTILIZE A PARKING LOT, BUT THEY ACTUALLY DO NOT PET, THEY DO NOT SELL THOSE PETS. 
          HOW MANY OF THOSE LOCATIONS, PETSMART AND PETCO, UH, PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS? UM, ALL OF ALL OF THOSE PET SMARTS AND PETS, UH, WILL DO THAT. 
          AND IN FACT, MOST OF THE PET STORES WILL, UH, WILL WORK WITH A LOCAL TO BE ABLE TO CREATE A DRIVE TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AT THEIR PLACE FOR AN ADOPTION EVENT. 
          SO WOULD YOU SAY THEN, BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE AND OBSERVATION, THERE MAY BE 15 OR 20 STORES THAT ARE ALLOWING THAT TO OCCUR ON 
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A REGULAR BASIS? ABSOLUTELY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT BY LIMITING THE ABILITY OF THESE THREE PARTICULAR STORES TO SELL PETS FROM OUTSIDE OF THE STATE, WERE ALSO LIMITING THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND FIND PETS, UH, FROM THE PET STORE LOCATIONS. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, NOW FOR, FOR A PIECE OF CLARIFICATION, THE PROPOSAL ORDINANCE, IN ADDITION TO PARTNERING WITH THE RESCUE GROUP, IT ALSO, THE, THE RECOMMENDATION ALSO ALLOWS THE PET STORE TO INDEPENDENTLY PARTNER WITH A RESCUE GROUP AND PURCHASE OR OBTAIN AND SELL IT AT THE RATE AND THE AMOUNT THAT THE PET STORE WANTS IN BEHALF OF THE PET STORE. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW, THE PETS THAT GO THROUGH, UH, LET'S SAY PETCO, PETSMART, OTHER PET STORES, UH, HOW ARE, ARE THEY EXAMINED BEFORE THEY'RE OFFERED FOR ADOPTION? BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE'VE HAD, OR ONE OF THE, UH, SUGGESTIONS BY ONE OF THE PET STORES WAS THAT THEY REALLY MONITOR THOSE ANIMALS WELL, THEY KNOW THEY'RE HEALTHY, THEY HAVE VETS CHECK THEM. 
          HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THE PETS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED FOR ADOPTION ARE AS WELL TAKEN CARE OF? SO THE PETS THAT ARE BEING OFFERED FALL UNDER THE POLICY OF THE, OF THE STORE AS WELL AS THE RESCUE GROUP THAT IS TAKEN CARE OF THEM. 
          NOW, THERE ARE STATE LAWS AND STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, THAT SPEAK ABOUT THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TRANSFER OF ANIMALS, SUCH AS BEING ABLE TO GIVE THE PET OWNER THE ABILITY TO, UH, BRING THE PET BACK. 
          UH, IN SAN ANTONIO, A LARGE PERCENTAGE, UH, LARGE QUANTITY OF THE RESCUE COMMUNITY, WHEN THEY ADOPT OUT OF PET, UH, THEY PROVIDE A LIFETIME GUARANTEE SAYING, AND TELL THE OWNER, IF AT ANY POINT OF TIME THAT YOU NEED TO, UM, RE-HOME, COME TO US FIRST, AND WE WILL HELP YOU DO THAT. 
          UM, THOSE ARE GENERALLY INTERNAL. 
          IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT, BUT THOSE ARE GENERALLY THE IN INTERNAL POLICIES AND PROCEDURES OF RESCUE GROUPS. 
          WHAT ABOUT, UM, SHOTS OR SPAY AND NEUTER OR, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVING A, A CHIP PLACED IN THOSE ANIMALS? IS THAT PART OF THE USUAL PROCESS? YEAH. 
          AND THAT IS, THAT IS REQUIRED HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, UH, WE ARE NOT REGULATING THE ORDINANCE DO NOT REGULATE THE CELL, BUT IT DOES REGULATE THE CONDITION AND THE CARE REQUIREMENT TO INCLUDE THE MAKING SURE THAT THEY ARE, UH, ADEQUATELY VACCINATED, THAT THEY DO HAVE THE MICROCHIP, AND THE STATE OF TEXAS REQUIRES ALL PETS THAT ARE, UH, OUTCOME, THAT ARE ADOPTED, UH, TO BE SPAYED OR NEUTERED. 
          OKAY. 
          GOOD. 
          UM, NOW IF MY PET HAD A LITTER AND I WANTED TO SELL THE ANIMALS FROM THAT LITTER, DO I NEED A LICENSE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WILL I HAVE TO SPAY ANU TO THE ANIMAL BEFORE I SELL THEM? UH, NOT IF YOU GET THE LICENSE. 
          OKAY. 
          HOWEVER, IF YOU'VE DISCOVERED THAT YOU'RE SELLING IT WITHOUT A LICENSE, THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REQUIRE THOSE PETS TO BE SPAYED NEUTERED. 
          OKAY. 
          ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS, UH, ON GIVING AWAY ANY OF THE LITTER THAT I MAY HAVE? UH, SHANNON, I'M GONNA HAVE SHANNON SPEAK ON THAT ONE BECAUSE HE KNOWS THE LAW A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN I DO. 
          HOW YOU DOING, COUNCILMAN? UM, THE, THE RESTRICTIONS ON EXCHANGE OR, YOU KNOW, GIVING AWAY AN ANIMAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          THE ONLY RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE IS THAT IT CAN'T BE, UH, GIVEN AWAY AS A, A PRIZE IN EXCHANGE FOR, UH, SERVICES, THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          IF YOU TRULY WANNA GIVE THE ANIMAL AWAY, YOU, YOU CAN ABSOLUTELY GIVE THEM, GIVE THEM AWAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UH, HEBREW, HOW MUCH DOES THE CITY SPEND ON ANIMAL CARE SERVICES? OUR BUDGET IS OVER 16 MILLION. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, NOW IS I, I'VE HEARD, AND I, UH, WE'VE RECEIVED, UM, A REPORT AND, UH, I WAS LOOKING AT IT, AND THERE, THERE ARE INDICATIONS THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR OR MINORITIES, UH, DON'T HAVE A FAIR OR EQUITABLE OPPORTUNITY TO ADOPT ANIMALS. 
          UH, AT LEAST THAT'S THE IMPLICATION OF WHAT THIS HAS TO SAY. 
          IS THERE A WAY OF SIMPLIFYING AND EXPANDING THE ADOPTION OPPORTUNITIES FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES OF COLOR? SO, I, I CAN, I CAN'T SPEAK ON A GLOBAL CELL, BUT I CAN SPEAK AS FOR WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT THERE MAY BE RESTRICTIONS BASED UPON SIZE OF HOMES, BASED UPON THE ABILITY TO HAVE A LARGE DOG IN A SMALL APARTMENT. 
          UM, BUT I DO NOT, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY RESCUE GROUP HERE IN SAN ANTONIO WHO PLACES RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE, UM, RELATED. 
          UH, NOW KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, WHEN WE TAKE ABOUT, UH, EQUITY, 
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WE DO HAVE A LOT OF THOSE ADOPTION EVENTS FROM OUR, UM, RESCUERS THAT ARE GOING INTO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          GOOD MORNING, COUNSEL. 
          I'M DAVID MCCA, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. 
          WE'VE ACTUALLY NOT ONLY LOOKED INTO THAT, BUT WE'VE ALREADY REVIEWED EVEN OUR APPLICATION TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT THERE IS NO DISCRIMIN DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICES OR QUESTIONS RELATED TO, UH, MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES. 
          IN FACT, I JUST DOUBLE CHECKED TO SEE THE APPLICATION PROCESS. 
          AND ALL THOSE QUESTIONS ARE QUESTIONS THAT CAN HELP US TRACK TO SEE HOW WELL THAT ANIMAL'S DOING. 
          UH, A C SS REALLY HAS THE PASSION TO KNOW HOW THAT CARE IS GOING. 
          SO IT GOES BEYOND JUST PASSING ON THAT OR THE, THE SALE OF THE PUPPY ONCE IT'S ADOPTED FOR THOSE THINGS. 
          SO THEY WANT TO KNOW THAT IF YOU HAVE AN AGGRESSIVE DOG DOES THAT APARTMENT COMPLEX, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY LIKE TO RUN AROUND, THERE ARE CERTAIN BREEDS THAT LOVE TO HAVE A LOT OF FUN, SO THEY WANT TO MAKE CERTAIN, AND IF YOU CHECK THAT BOX, THEY CAN ASK YOU, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THIS IS AN ACTIVE PUPPY? SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND I, I REALLY, UH, ADMIRE THE OTHER PART TO THAT, THAT I WANTED ALL OF COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT A PART OF OUR BUDGET EQUITY TOOL ALLOWS US BECAUSE OF YOUR DIRECTION AS COUNCIL FROM AN UMBRELLA STANDPOINT, TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT WE'RE APPLYING ALL OF OUR BUDGET EQUITY TOOL PROCESSES AND TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT OUR EQUITY ATLAS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES, WE'RE MAKING CERTAIN THAT THERE'S NOT THAT DISPARITIES THAT SOMETIMES GO UNNOTICED. 
          SO EVEN THE APPLICATION PROCESS TO MAKE CERTAIN THAT IT'S FAIR, WE ALWAYS DOUBLE CHECK THAT. 
          AND IF ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, LIKE WE'VE SPOKEN WITH DISTRICT TWO, THEY, Y'ALL CALL IT TO OUR ATTENTION, WE, WE MAKE THE ADJUSTMENT IMMEDIATELY. 
          SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU, DAVID. 
          YES, SIR. 
          UM, I WAS INTRIGUED AS I WAS READING THIS REPORT BY F M SS GLOBAL STRATEGIES, UH, CALLED DISMANTLING RACISM AND PET RESCUE INDUSTRY THAT, UH, THE STORES THEY REPRESENT ARE NOT ESTABLISHED IN A COMMUNITY OF COLOR YET THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING THERE'S RACISM IN ADOPTING THESE ANIMALS OR BUYING THESE ANIMALS, RATHER, THEIR STORES ARE IN PREDOMINANTLY ANGLO NORTHSIDE COMMUNITIES. 
          SO I, I QUESTION THE RELEVANCE OF A LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE TRY TO INDICATE THROUGH THAT. 
          FINALLY, THERE WAS ONE OTHER ISSUE THAT, UH, IS IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT I WANTED TO GET CLARIFIED. 
          AND THAT IS, YOU SAID THERE'S, UM, SOMETHING IN HERE ABOUT NUISANCE FEEDING OF ANIMALS. 
          COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? SO THE, THE ORDINANCE, UH, PLACES IN THERE THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY THAT IF SOMEBODY IS, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, I'M GONNA TAKE THE PERFECT EXAM OR THE OF FEEDING FERAL CATS, UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO IS NOT AGAINST THE FEEDING OF, UH, FEEDING FERAL CATS. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ENJOY IT AND WHO DO IT THE RIGHT WAY, BUT THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT THE NUISANCE THAT'S CREATED WHEN SOMEBODY GOES OUT THERE AND DUMPS A WEEK'S LOAD OF FOOD AT ONE LOCATION AND WALKS AWAY. 
          AND THEN THAT, THEN THAT FOOD THAT IS LEFT THERE ATTRACTS ADDITIONAL WILDLIFE AND ACTUALLY GROWS THAT FERAL CAT COLONY. 
          UM, THEY ARE, THEY ARE PRACTICES THAT ARE NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS THE FEEDING OF FERAL CATS. 
          AND SO WHAT THIS ORDINANCE DOES IS GIVES US THE ABILITY THAT IF WE SEE AN INDIVIDUAL WHO IS, UH, FEEDING IMPROPERLY AND IN A WAY THAT IS NOT, UH, THAT CREATES A NUISANCE, WHETHER IT BE A SMELL OR WHETHER IT BE AN, UH, ABSENCE OF A LOT OF FOOD IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO FEED A FERAL CAT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOME IN A BOWL, THAT'S OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          UH, OR IF, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO FEED DEER BY PUTTING FOOD OUT IN THEIR FRONT LAWN, THAT WOULD BE OKAY. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          WHAT WE DON'T WANNA SEE IS THE DUMPING OF FOOD OR THE LITTERING OR OTHER BE, OR OTHER NUISANCE RELATED BEHAVIOR. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COURAGE. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, HEBREW, YOU MADE A COMMENT JUST NOW I THINK WITH COUNCILWOMAN VRAN THAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO TRY TO ELIMINATE WHOLESALE BREEDERS. 
          SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO, IS NOT TO ELIMINATE THE WHOLESALE BREEDERS. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO SIMPLY STATE WHAT ROLE DOES THE ORIGIN OF THE, OF THE CONDITION, OF THE ORIGIN OF THE PETS PLAY THAT, UM, THAT ARE NOT IN SAN ANTONIO? WHAT ROLE DOES IT PLAY 
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IN SAN ANTONIO AND HOW DO WE HELP, UH, ADDRESS THAT? MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE ARE, UH, THERE ARE WHOLESALE BREEDERS THROUGHOUT THE NATION, AND I AM NOT, NO, I, BUT I DON'T WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE NATION. 
          I I REALLY WANNA KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO BECAUSE IT SEEMS THAT THERE'S ONLY THREE STORES THAT SELL PETS. 
          UH, AND, UM, I, I KNOW THAT THE OWNERS ARE HERE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DO HEAR THAT A LOT OF THE COMMENTS ARE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES THAT ARE HAPPENING AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT LOCAL. 
          SO I, IT, UM, I, I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU 'CAUSE I'LL CALL YOU BACK UP IN A SECOND, BUT I DO WANNA ASK THE OWNERS A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE THEY SOURCE OUR ANIMALS, BECAUSE MY SENSE HERE IS THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING THE WRONG PROBLEM ALTOGETHER. 
          IT EVEN, UH, IS RELATED TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT YOU HAVE HERE. 
          THE PURPOSE IN YOUR STRATEGIC PLAN IS THE VERY FIRST ITEM ON THE ORDINANCE ENHANCE ENFORCEMENT OF EXISTING LAWS AND CODES, CONTROLLING THE STRAY ANIMAL POPULATION, INCREASING THE CITY'S LIVE RELEASE RATE, AND ENGAGE IN AND EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY ON RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP. 
          BUT HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLESALE DISTRIBUTION OF, OF PUPPY MILLS. 
          AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S ONLY THREE AND THEY'RE HERE. 
          ARE THEY STILL HERE? UH, OKAY. 
          SO CAN I GET A REPRESENTATIVE? UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SOURCING OF YOUR ANIMALS. 
          'CAUSE I THINK THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS DOING, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A STRAY ANIMAL PROBLEM. 
          UH, AND I THINK Y'ALL HAVE DONE AN INCREDIBLE JOB OF DOING THAT A C S HAS. 
          BUT CAN I JUST ASK YOU ALL, PLEASE, WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR ANIMALS? WHERE ARE THEY SOURCED? AND IS THIS ORDINANCE, UM, ADDRESSING, UH, ISSUES OF, OF, UH, WHOLESALE ANIMALS? WELL, I, I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT 'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF BLANKETED. 
          YOU HAVE IT TO WHERE YOU HAVE GOOD BREEDERS AND BAD BREEDERS. 
          WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WORKING OUR BEST TO GET NOTHING BUT THE GOOD BREEDERS. 
          AND WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT EVERYTHING'S BAD ACROSS THE BOARD. 
          WELL, SIMPLY BY SEEING SOME PICTURES AND US DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, THAT'S OUR BEST GOAL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT TYPE OF PET TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S HAPPENING. 
          THAT WE'RE NOT WORRYING ABOUT ANY PUPPY MILLS. 
          WE WANT THOSE TO CLOSE DOWN. 
          NO DOUBT. 
          100%. 
          SO DO YOU GET YOUR ANIMALS FROM WHOLESALE PLACES THAT ARE NOT REGISTERED AND LICENSED? BECAUSE I, I'M, I GET ALSO THE IMPRESSION THAT THERE, THERE, THERE'S LICENSING AND THERE'S, UM, THE ANIMALS THAT YOU BRING IN HAVE TO GO THROUGH SOME SORT OF, UM, I DON'T KNOW, HEALTH INSPECTION OF SOME SORT. 
          I MEAN, UM, I KNOW, WELL, GO AHEAD. 
          LET JUST WELL, WE ABSOLUTELY GET EVERYBODY FROM THAT IS REGULATED U S D A REGULATED, SO WE DON'T GO OUTSIDE THAT BOUNDARY. 
          JUST A QUESTION. 
          SO U S D A, THAT'S A NATIONWIDE STANDARD. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'S NOT JUST THE STATE THAT REGULATES THAT, BECAUSE I ALSO HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT THIS IS NOT, UM, THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS BASED ON THE STATE REQUIREMENTS OR STANDARDS OR MAYBE U S D A STANDARDS. 
          I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUE SO MY QUESTION IS, WHO CERTIFIES THE ANIMALS? IS IT A LOCAL CERTIFICATION OR A NATIONAL CERTIFICATION? SO WHEN THEY COME HERE, OUR VET, OF COURSE, EXAMINES AT OUR PROPERTY 100%. 
          NOW, OF COURSE, AT STATE LEVEL, THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS AUTHORIZED AND THAT, OF COURSE, THEY'RE ACCEPTED TO COME IN AT STATE LEVEL NO MATTER WHAT. 
          AND SO THE BREEDERS ARE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE, THEY'RE CERTIFIED BY THE STATE, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          THOSE ARE ACCEPTABLE, UH, FACILITIES. 
          THEY ARE ACCEPTABLE FACILITIES, BUT EVEN BEYOND THAT, THEY GO BEYOND THE STANDARDS OF ALL THESE ABNORMAL FACILITIES THAT WE DO NOT WANT AROUND. 
          BUT OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE MONITORING THOSE. 
          AND WE DO OUR PART BY VISITING. 
          AND OF COURSE, PETLAND DOES IT AS WELL AS A FOLLOW UP, AS WELL AS OF COURSE, THE U S D A A K C, WHOEVER IS INVOLVED IN THAT. 
          AND I'M SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF? JAIME TBA. 
          I'M SORRY? JAIME TBA. 
          OKAY. 
          OWNER OF PETLAND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND MAYBE THIS YOUNG LADY, CAN YOU JUST PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND, UH, I KNOW YOU DID IT IN THE CITIZENS TO BE HEARD, BUT IT'S BEEN, MY NAME IS KAYLA KER. 
          UM, I'M ONE OF THE OWNERS OF PUPPY LAND, UM, NOT ASSOCIATED WITH PETLAND. 
          UM, I DO WANNA SAY THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY FOUR PET STORES IN THE SAN, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          THERE'S NOT JUST THREE. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE TWO PET LANDS, THERE IS PUPPY LAND, AND THEN, UM, ROYAL PALACE. 
          ROYAL PALACES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          . 
          UM, THERE ARE ACTUALLY FOUR STORES. 
          UM, SO US AS FAR AS SOURCING OUR PUPPIES, EXCUSE ME. 
          UM, U S D A. 
          SO FEDERALLY, UH, A LOT OF STATES ALSO HAVE THEIR OWN STATE REQUIREMENTS BEFORE PUPPIES ARE ALLOWED TO CROSS STATE LINES, WHETHER IT'S STATE TO STATE OR, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S MULTIPLE STOPS ALONG THE WAY, THEY HAVE TO BE CHECKED BY LICENSED VETERINARIAN HANDS-ON BEFORE THEY'RE TRANSPORTED ANYWHERE. 
          SO IF, UH, AND SO THAT'S THE ANIMALS THAT YOU, AND SO HOW MANY, UH, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE IT'S NOT RELEVANT FOR THE ORDINANCE, BUT, UM, UM, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU TRANSFER THEM TO THE PERSON WHO BUYS THEM, 
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UM, THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE, UH, HAVE THAT THEY'VE BEEN, UM, CORRECT. 
          THEY HAVE THEIR HEALTH CHECKS AND ALL THAT STUFF. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THE ANIMALS ARE HEALTHY. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          UH, OKAY. 
          AND, UM, IS YOUR, IS IT A, DO YOU HAVE A REGULAR STORE OPERATION? LIKE YOU HAVE A STOREFRONT? I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH PETLAND, BUT IS YOURS LIKE A, DO YOU HAVE A STORE THAT'S NIGHT SUPPLY? YES, WE ARE STOREFRONT. 
          UM, BUT WE SIMPLY SELL PUPPIES. 
          WE ARE NOT A PET SUPPLY STORE. 
          AND SO HOW MANY DO YOU SELL AT LIKE, UM, JUST LIKE 15 A WEEK? 15 A WEEK? OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          UH, AND, AND, AND ARE THEY OKAY, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I THINK IF Y'ALL COULD JUST STAND BY, UH, I MAY HAVE TO CALL BACK ON YOU IN JUST A MINUTE BECAUSE I, UM, I MEAN, I, I AM VERY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE WORK THAT A C S HAS DONE. 
          I THINK YOU ALL ARE LEADERS IN THE INDUSTRY. 
          UM, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE WORK. 
          I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THIS ORDINANCE GETS TO THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOUR ARE YOUR CORE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO HEBREW OF THESE, I THINK THAT PEOPLE GET VERY EMOTIONAL WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ANIMALS. 
          WE KNOW THAT PUPPY MELTS. 
          I THINK EVERYBODY WOULD, THERE'S NO QUESTION EVEN THE, UH, OWNERS HERE ARE, UH, WOULD WANT THEM TO CLOSE. 
          BUT I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ORDINANCE GETS TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO THE ORDINANCE DOES A COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE. 
          IT'S A POLICY DECISION TO ASK WHAT ROLE DOES THE PLACE WHERE THE PETS COME FROM AND THE CONDITION OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM PLAY HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, THE HUMAN CONDITION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND SO HOW DOES THAT, THIS ORDINANCE, WHAT DOES THAT PLAY? SO IF THE CONDITION OF WHERE THE PETS PLAY THERE IS, THERE IS KNOWN AND DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE THAT THE PLAYERS, UH, ARE NOT REGULATED EVENLY TO REACH THE STANDARD THAT SAN ANTONIO WOULD CONSIDER AS HUMANE. 
          AND, AND IT'S CLEAR AND EVERYBODY ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THERE ARE BAD ACTORS ON THE NATION. 
          AND SO EVERYBODY IDENTIFIES AND ACCEPTS THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGES ON A STATE LEVEL, AND THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE CHANGES ON A FEDERAL LABEL LEVEL. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU AGAIN BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT TALKS ABOUT HUMANE TREATMENT, AND WE ALL ARE AS SUPPORTIVE OF HUMANE TREATMENT. 
          BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STRATEGIC PLAN, THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE ABOUT HUMANE TREATMENT. 
          UH, HUMANE TREATMENT IS IN OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND AC S'S MISSION STATEMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THIS, I MEAN, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELIMINATING THE ABILITY FOR THEM TO SELL ANIMALS, THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT WOULD ADDRESSES HUMANE TREATMENT. 
          IT'S JUST YOU'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE RETAIL SALES, UH, ULTIMATELY BY STOPPING THE WHOLESALE. 
          UM, I, I JUST, I FEEL THAT THERE'S A DISCONNECT THERE. 
          THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT WE ALL BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE ANIMALS SHOULD BE TREATED HUMANELY. 
          BUT I DON'T SEE HOW THIS ORDINANCE IS GOING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE WITH THE OWNERS WHO SAY THAT THEY ARE, I MEAN, HAVE THEY, HAVE THEY HAD VIOLATIONS? SO THIS ORDINANCE DOES NOT ADDRESS THE CARE OF THE ANIMALS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, WE ARE NOT ADDRESSING ANY OF THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES. 
          UH, THIS IS ADDRESSING WHAT ROLE DOES THE ORIGIN OF THE PETS PLAY? AND DOES, DOES THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FIVE THAT, UH, PUTS, THAT REQUIRES THE HUMANE CARE AND TREATMENT OF THE PETS? DOES IT APPLY? AND HOW DOES IT APPLY, UH, TO THOSE BREEDING PRACTICE, TO THE BREEDING PRACTICES OF THE PETS THAT ARE BRED OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, BUT ARE BROUGHT INTO OUR CITY AND BEING SOLD? UH, OKAY. 
          BUT HAVE THEY HAD ANY VIOLATIONS? HAS THERE BEEN A PROBLEM IN WITH THE COMPANIES THAT BEEN SO THE CITY OF SAN, THEY'VE BEEN INSPECTED AND SORT. 
          I MEAN, AND SO FROM THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO PERSPECTIVE, UH, ONE OF, ONE OF THEM IS NEW TO THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          UH, THE OTHER ONES WE DO NOT HAVE, UM, ANY, ANY KNOWN VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECORDED BY A C SS. 
          UH, I AGREE THAT THERE ARE FOUR, UH, FOUR IN SAN ANTONIO, BUT ONE OF THE STORES IS NOT IN THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT INSPECTED BY THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, I I, I'VE BEEN TRYING TO READ THE ORDINANCE BECAUSE LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE, WE, WE'VE ALL BEEN DISTRACTED WITH OTHER THINGS. 
          I THINK EVEN THE STORE OWNERS, UM, HAVE BEEN WITH A LOT OF OTHER THINGS ON THEIR MIND. 
          BUT I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THE ORDINANCE REALLY GETS TO THE SOURCE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, WHICH WE KNOW WE HAVE AN OVERPOPULATION. 
          THERE'S NO DOUBT. 
          WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UM, PROBLEMS WITH LOOSE DOGS. 
          I THINK WHAT, WHAT I, WHAT I KNOW I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION AFTER MANY, MANY YEARS OF WORKING WITH ANIMAL CARE SERVICES, UH, I'LL WRAP UP, MARY. 
          THE PROBLEM IS NOT STRAY ANIMALS. 
          IT'S LOOSE ANIMAL ANIMALS. 
          THEY'RE OWNED DOGS. 
          SO WE HAVE A SEVERE PROBLEM WITH, UH, PET OWNERSHIP RESPONSIBILITY. 
          UH, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE, UH, REGARDING, UM, WHAT'S IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, CONTROLLING THE POPULATION, UH, INCREASING 
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THE LIVE RELEASE RATE, ALL THE THINGS THAT I THINK YOU ALL HAVE DONE, UH, INCREDIBLY WELL. 
          AND I'M VERY PROUD OF A C S, BUT I THINK THIS ORDINANCE IS VERY MISGUIDED. 
          UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE IT CAME INTERNALLY OR PERHAPS FROM OTHER RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM OF TOO MANY ANIMALS. 
          AND SO THIS, UH, THESE PARTICULAR COMPANIES ARE GETTING SCAPEGOATED BECAUSE OF OTHER PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE INTERNALLY IN OUR CITY. 
          AND SO I DON'T SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER GONZALEZ. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PAL. 
          THANKS. 
          I'LL START OFF, UM, WITH, UH, QUESTIONS FOR ANDY SEGOVIA. 
          COULD ANDY, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? ? OKAY, GREAT. 
          SO, ANDY, I, I, I'M APPROACHING THIS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE. 
          I, I UNDERSTAND ALL THE ARGUMENTS AND THE DEBATE IS, IS CERTAINLY A HEALTHY DEBATE, AND, UH, EVERYBODY FEELS STRONGLY, UM, ABOUT THEIR POSITIONS. 
          BUT I, WE DID HEAR THE WORDS, YOU KNOW, THAT THIS IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL OR THAT THIS IS ILLEGAL. 
          AND, UM, I HEARD FROM ONE OF THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE TODAY, UH, BEFORE THE MEETING, ANDY, UH, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, UH, SUBJECT TO SOME SORT OF LEGAL CHALLENGE. 
          AND SO I'VE BEEN TRYING TO THINK THROUGH THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS CONSTITUTIONALITY AND, AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S THREE PLACES WHERE I THINK SOMEBODY COULD TRY TO MAKE THE ARGUMENT. 
          AND ONE IS THIS RATIONAL BASIS ARGUMENT THAT I THINK HAS BEEN MADE IN OTHER, IN OTHER COURT THAT IS, WE HAVE NO RATIONAL BASIS. 
          THEREFORE, THIS LAW, YOU KNOW, UM, IS ARBITRARY, SHOULD NOT BE ENFORCED. 
          AND SO I THINK, AND YOU'D AGREE WITH ME THAT WE WERE JUST TO SIMPLY SAY WE LIKE PUPPIES FROM ONE PLACE BUT NOT ANOTHER PLACE, PERIOD, FULL STOP. 
          THAT, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY IN IRRATIONAL, OR AT LEAST THAT WOULD PROBABLY DRAW A LEGITIMATE RATIONAL BASIS CHALLENGE, RIGHT? BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT, AND ANDY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MIC IS ON, PAL. 
          I, I, I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT ANDY SAYS. 
          YEAH, SO I, I DIDN'T HEAR A WORD ANDY SAID, BUT ANDY, I'M, I'M ASSUMING YOU AGREE WITH ME BECAUSE, UM, IF, UH, IF WE THEN SAY, NO, NO, NO. 
          OUR RATIONAL BASIS IS THAT WE WANT TO PREVENT ANIMAL CRUELTY, PROMOTE, UM, YOU KNOW, HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS, THAT WE NEED TO FIND A WAY TO CLEAR DOGS OUT OF OUR SHELTERS. 
          AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE KENNELS AT RESCUE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, AND THAT MAYBE RETAIL PUPPY MILLS ADD TO OUR SHELTER POPULATION AND OUR CONSTITUENTS BY WAY OF AS THEY SPEAK UP, UM, THOSE ARE RATIONAL BASES, RIGHT? ANDY CAN THE WAY YEAH, I CAN, I CAN HEAR YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW. 
          NO, YOU'RE CORRECT, COUNCILMAN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO CROSSING RATIONAL BASIS OFF THE LIST. 
          THEN THE OTHER ONE IS MAYBE SOMEBODY COULD SAY, WELL, WE'RE VIOLATING THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION, A COMMERCE CLUB 14TH AMENDMENT, BECAUSE OUR INTENT IS TO IMPEDE SALES OF ANIMALS FROM OUT-OF-STATE BREEDERS AND BROKERS. 
          BUT I'VE READ THE ORDINANCE AND IT DOESN'T CARVE OUT A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR LOCAL BREEDERS, UH, AT THE EXPENSE OF OUT-OF-STATE BREEDERS. 
          SO I'M NOT, I I DON'T SEE A CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE THERE EITHER. 
          DO YOU, UH, COUNCILMAN NO, WE DON'T SEE A CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE TO THIS. 
          UM, AND, UH, TO ADD TO THAT, UNDER THE OCCUPATIONS CODE OF THE STATE, UH, IT DOES GRANT MUNICIPALITIES THE AUTHORITY UNDER THE STATE, UH, TO FURTHER REGULATE, UM, THE POSSESSION, BREEDING OR SELLING OF DOGS OR CATS. 
          THEN LASTLY, I, I HEARD THE WORDS THROWN AROUND THAT THIS VIOLATES PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, CUSTOMER'S FREEDOM OF CHOICE. 
          AND ANDY, YOU AND I HAVE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, BUT DO THE WORDS FREEDOM OF CHOICE APPEAR ANYWHERE IN THE CONSTITUTION, PROTECT, AND RIGHT. 
          THE ABILITY TO CHOOSE OR PICK. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WITH THAT, THEN I'M SATISFIED THAT A LEGAL CHALLENGE, UH, WOULD PROBABLY LOSE, AS WE'VE SEEN IT LOSE IN OTHER STATES AND OTHER CITIES. 
          SO I, I DO WANT TO SHIFT OVER JUST TO ONE OTHER THING, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN COURAGE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING IT UP. 
          UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE RACIAL COMPONENT OF THIS, I, I'M, I'M STILL SITTING HERE AMAZED THAT SOMEONE STEPPED UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND MADE THE ARGUMENT THAT A C S OR THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND THE ANIMAL DEFENSE LEAGUE FORM SOME KIND OF SHADOWY CABAL OF, OF BAD ACTORS WHO, WHO BY DESIGN CONSPIRE, 
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UH, TO DENY PEOPLE OF COLOR ACCESS TO ANIMALS, , UM, OR THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS SWEEP INTO CITIES WITH THIS NEFARIOUS GOAL OF, OF, YOU KNOW, ONLY ADOPTING ANIMALS OUT TO WHITE FAMILIES. 
          UM, I, I'M, I, I, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO COMPUTE, RIGHT? UH, THAT SOMEBODY WOULD EVEN THINK THAT OUR ANIMAL ADOPTION OPERATIONS PREFER ONE RACE OVER ANOTHER. 
          AND TO ME, I MEAN, TO ME, THAT'S AS GOOFY AS THE, THE HATEFUL TRIPE THAT WE GET FROM MR. FINGER EVERY WEEK. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT THAT KIND OF CYNICAL, SO SOPHISTRY HAS ABSOLUTELY NO PLACE IN A DEBATE LIKE THIS, AND RACISM IS A SERIOUS ENOUGH ISSUE THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS WORKED TO ADDRESS TIRELESSLY AND USING RACISM AS A TALKING POINT, UM, TO YOUR ARGUMENT, IT REALLY CHEAPENS THE TRUE FIGHT AGAINST RACISM AND, AND TRADING ON RACISM. 
          UM, TO BOLSTER, UH, THIS ARGUMENT TO DEFEND PUPPY MILLS IS, IS JUST THE HEIGHT OF UN OF UGLINESS, AND IT'S UNETHICAL. 
          AND SO, I, I DO WANNA POINT OUT TO EVERYBODY THAT OUR ANIMAL CARE SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS OPERATED BY MEN AND WOMEN OF COLOR, OF ALL COLORS, AND ALL CREEDS AND THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND THE ANIMAL DEFENSE LEAGUE ARE ALL OPERATED BY PEOPLE OF, OF ALL COLORS AND ALL CREEDS. 
          AND OUR, OUR A D A, UH, I'M SORRY, OUR A C S OPERATIONS IN, IN OUR ADOPTION CENTERS, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY HISPANIC AND OF COLOR ARE MOST SUCCESSFUL. 
          UM, AND TO SUGGEST, SO TO SUGGEST THAT OUR ANIMAL ADOPTION OPERATIONS PREFER ONE RACE OVER ANOTHER, REALLY SLANDERS THE, THE COMPASSIONATE AND HARDWORKING MEN AND WOMEN, UM, WHO WORK AROUND THE CLOCK TO, TO HELP FIND THESE ANIMALS THEIR FOREVER HOMES. 
          AND ANYBODY WHO PEDALS IN THAT KIND OF LYING OWES THOSE MEN AND WOMEN AN APOLOGY. 
          AND REALLY, UH, YOU REALLY OUGHT TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR AND REEXAMINE, YOU KNOW, HOW, YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE A GOOD HUMAN BEING. 
          'CAUSE I DON'T THINK YOU ARE. 
          UM, SO ANYWAY, THIS HAS MY SUPPORT. 
          THANKS, MAYOR. 
          THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PALAI. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          UH, HEBER, I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU. 
          UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA CONGRATULATE YOU AND YOUR STAFF, WHAT YOU'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS ON OUR STRAY ANIMAL PROBLEM AND, AND OUR LIVE RELEASE RATE. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN A ASTOUNDING OVER THESE YEARS, AND, UH, WE STILL HAVE A WAYS TO GO. 
          AND, UM, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL JUMP OFF INTO MY QUESTIONS. 
          I, I DO HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THIS BEING, UH, ANOTHER GOVERNMENT OVERREACH AND OVER BUSINESSES. 
          YOU KNOW, IT WAS COMMENTED A WHILE AGO, WHY, WHY DO ANY STORES SELL ANIMALS? WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S A DEMAND FOR, AND THERE'S A DEMAND FOR ANY, UH, OF THESE AGENCIES OR STORES FOR PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND PURCHASE SPECIFIC PETS FOR SPECIFIC USES. 
          AND, UM, FOR US TO STEP IN AND SAY, NO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT. 
          I, I, I'VE GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT. 
          ONLY IF YOU DO IT THIS WAY, UH, WITH CERTAIN ANIMALS. 
          UM, WITH THAT, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK YOU STRAIGHT UP, IS THIS GOING TO, IF THIS ORDINANCE IS ENACTED, WILL IT REDUCE OUR STRAY ANIMAL PROBLEM HERE IN SAN ANTONIO? IF IT, IF IT WILL REDUCE, I DON'T HEAR YOU. 
          THE STRAY ANIMAL PRO. 
          THE STRAY ANIMAL, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          THE STRAY ANIMAL ISSUE IS BECAUSE OF IRRESPONSIBLE PET OWNERS. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S MY POINT. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO WHETHER THIS ORDINANCE IS IN OR OUT, IT'S NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING. 
          IT'S THE PET OWNERS TO COUNCILWOMAN GONZALEZ'S POINT, IT'S NOT REALLY SUPPORTING, YOU KNOW, YOUR OVERALL, OVERALL VISION FOR A C S. 
          UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S PERSONAL CHOICE OF, UH, OUR COMMUNITY AND OTHER COMMUNITIES TO GO OUT FOR SPECIFIC ANIMALS SPECIFIC BREEDS, UH, THAT THEY CAN REACH OUT TO, THAT THEY, THAT THEY WANT. 
          UM, YOU DIDN'T REALLY ANSWER COUNCILWOMAN SANDOVAL'S QUESTION WHILE AGO. 
          YOU SAID YOU STARTED THIS TWO YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE BUDGETING PROCESS. 
          BUT WHEN DID YOU GO TO THESE THREE OR FOUR BUSINESSES TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT THAT OR THE CHAMBERS? ANY, ANY BUSINESS TO TALK ABOUT THIS? SO, WHILE THE, UM, WHILE THE OPPORTUNITY PRESENTED ITSELF, UH, TO BE ABLE TO MEET, UM, I DID NOT MEET WITH THOSE, WITH THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS UNTIL LAST WEEK, FACE-TO-FACE. 
          OKAY, SO YOU'VE HAD TWO YEARS ON THIS, BUT YET CITY STAFF DID NOT GO OUT AND OUTREACH TO THE CHAMBERS TO THE BUSINESSES THAT IT'S GONNA AFFECT UNTIL A WEEK AGO. 
          SO IS THAT, IS THAT, I MEAN, THAT DOESN'T SOUND FAIR TO ME THAT WE'RE GONNA COME DOWN WITH A, UH, AN 
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ORDINANCE THAT'S GONNA IMPACT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN IN THE LOOP ON THIS, OR SPECIFICALLY OUTREACH TO, SO COUNCIL MEMBER, WE DID FOLLOW THE PROTOCOLS THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY CITY COUNCIL ON HOW TO DO ESSAY SPEAK UP, AND WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THOSE PROTOCOLS, UM, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FROM PEOPLE TO ACROSS THE BOARD TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE, UH, AND TO BE ABLE TO HEAR, TO BE HEARD. 
          UH, EVEN TO THE POINT WHERE UP TO LAST NIGHT I WAS STILL LISTENING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT. 
          UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO COLLECT THE INFORMATION, TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENTS, UH, BACK AND FORTH, UH, AND TO BE ABLE TO, TO PUT THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WITH THE, WITH MY, WITH THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          WELL, THERE'S STILL OBVIOUSLY SOME DISAGREEMENTS ON THAT AND, UM, I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          AND THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, DISCUSSIONS LIKE THIS THAT WE DIDN'T GO TO THOSE AFFECTED, UH, RIGHT UP FRONT TO GET THEIR INPUT BEFORE WE COME UP WITH AN ORDINANCE OR A REQUIREMENT OR RESOLUTION OR WHATEVER. 
          UM, SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ACCEPTABLE BREEDERS OUT THERE? I ASKED YOU THIS QUESTION BEFORE, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CALL THE OTHER DAY. 
          ARE THERE ACCEPTABLE BREEDERS OUT THERE? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          IF YOU'RE GETTING ASSURANCES FROM THESE THREE OR FOUR BUSINESSES HERE LOCALLY THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ACCEPTABLE BREEDERS, COULDN'T WE FASHION THAT SOME WAY, ANDY, IF WE TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS, TO, UM, HAVE A LIST OF ACCEPTABLE BREEDERS THAT THEY COULD GO TO INSTEAD OF JUST MAKING A, BECAUSE I'M HEARING THE SAME THING. 
          WE HAVE SOME BAD APPLES OUT THERE THAT WERE PAINTING A BROAD BRUSH OVER ALL BREEDERS, WHETHER IN STATE OR OUTTA STATE THAT THEY'RE ALL BAD. 
          THEY'RE PUPPY MILLS. 
          THE CON THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THERE'S GOOD, AND I ACKNOWLEDGE THERE'S BAD. 
          THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THERE'S NOT A FORUM ON A NATIONAL OR STATE LEVEL THAT CLEARLY DEFINES WHO IS GOOD AND WHO IS BAD IN A WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, USE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION THAT A, A BAD ACTOR IS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UP UNTIL THEY'RE NOT. 
          BUT I HEARD, IF I COULD ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, COUNSEL, THAT WAS DIRECTED. 
          YEAH, GO AHEAD, DANNY. 
          UM, UNDER THE STATE LAW, WE CAN, UH, UH, AND, AND CITIES HAVE TAKEN THE POSITION WHERE THEY RESTRICT THE OUTRIGHT SALE. 
          UH, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS, I THINK AS HEBREW POINTED OUT, IS THE, THE LICENSING COMES FROM BOTH THE U SS D A AND THE STATE. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE TRY THEN TO PICK, UH, WHO THEY CAN DO BUSINESS WITH AND WHO THEY CAN'T. 
          WE'D BE THEN TAKING THAT SWIM LANE IN TERMS OF LICENSING OF, OF BREEDERS, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO. 
          WELL, I, I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS. 
          UM, WE'RE DEFACTO DOING THAT BY SAYING THEY CAN ONLY SELL FROM RESCUE SELTZERS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          WE'RE DEFACTO DOING THAT. 
          WE'RE RESTRICTING WHAT THEY CAN AND CAN'T DO BY SAYING YOU CAN ONLY SELL RESCUE ANIMALS. 
          SO IF WE CAN DO THAT HERE LOCALLY, I DON'T SEE WHY WE COULDN'T DO THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, IN THE ORDINANCE SAYING YOU CAN ONLY USE THESE BREEDERS TO PURCHASE YOUR PUPPIES AND THEN RESELL 'EM HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE LEGAL ISSUES WOULD COME WITH HOW WE DO THAT AND WHICH BREEDERS WOULD BE IN AND WHICH ONES WOULD BE OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING AT, ANDY. 
          WE HAVEN'T FLESHED THAT OUT, OR IN MY OPINION, WE HAVEN'T. 
          UM, SO THERE ARE ACCEPTABLE BREEDERS OUT THERE. 
          UM, COUNCILMAN I I, I'VE ASKED THIS BEFORE, IF, IF THIS GOES THROUGH, WILL THIS HELP? AND YOU'VE ALREADY SAID NO, IT'S PET OWNERSHIP THAT IS CREATING THE STRAY ANIMAL PROBLEM HERE IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          YEAH, THAT IS, UH, THAT IS NOT THE, IN MY OPINION, THAT IS NOT THE PURPOSE OF WHY WE ARE RECOMMENDING THIS TO CITY COUNCIL. 
          UM, THE PURPOSE WE RECOGNIZE AND WE HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A BENEFIT TO OUR RESCUE COMMUNITY. 
          OUR RESCUE COMMUNITY IS POLLING 10,000 PETS A YEAR FROM OUR A AGENCY, AND THEN SPENDING THE TIME TO TAKE CARE OF THOSE PETS AND FIND ALTERNATIVE PLACEMENT FOR THEM, AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, UH, OF ANOTHER SOURCE WHERE THEY HAVE A SOURCE TO BE ABLE TO DISTINGUISH. 
          I HOPE THAT THAT WILL HELP THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, BUT THAT IS NOT THE REASON FOR WHY WE ARE MAKING THIS CHANGE, THAT WE ARE PROPOSING THIS CHANGE. 
          UH, WE ARE PROPOSING THIS CHANGE BECAUSE, UH, THE INDUSTRY OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS IS VERY DIFFICULT TO REGULATE. 
          AND WE, AND WE DO NOT KNOW THE GOOD ACTORS FROM THE BAD ACTORS AND THAT THE, 
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THE, UH, THE STATE LAWS AND THE FEDERAL LAWS ARE BELOW THE STANDARD OF SAN ANTONIO. 
          AND THERE ARE MAJOR CONCERNS. 
          EVEN THE PET STORES WHO STOOD UP HERE SAID THAT THERE ARE GOOD AND THERE ARE BAD. 
          UM, BUT THERE IS A, THERE'S A DIFFICULTY TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY WELL, WHO ACTUALLY IS GOOD AND WHO ACTUALLY IS BAD. 
          AND, AND THE, THE RECOMMENDATION MAKES A STATEMENT THAT THAT IS NOT THE ROLE OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO PLAY. 
          WELL, YOU, YOU MENTIONED SAN ANTONIO STANDARD, WHAT IS THAT SAN ANTONIO STANDARD? SO THE STANDARD, WHAT IS THAT? ABOVE AND BEYOND OTHER STANDARDS, NATIONAL AND STATE STANDARDS. 
          YES. 
          DO WE HAVE A MORE, IS IT WRITTEN WHAT THAT STANDARD IS? YEAH, THAT'S CHAPTER FIVE. 
          OKAY. 
          CHAPTER FIVE ESTABLISHED A STANDARD FOR THE CARE AND TREATMENT OF PETS IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THERE'S NO BREEDERS OUTSIDE OF SAN ANTONIO THAT MEETS THAT STANDARD. 
          THERE, THERE, THERE, THERE CAN BE. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, TO BE ABLE TO MEET THAT. 
          DID WE, BUT WE CANNOT, DID WE ACTUALLY ASK THE QUESTION OR GO OUT AND TALK WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY OR ANYONE SAYING, HEY, ARE THERE ANY BREEDERS OUT THERE THAT DOES MEET OUR STANDARD? NO. 
          AND I, IN MY CONVERSATIONS, EVEN WITH THE LOCAL OWNERS, THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED, UH, EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THAT THERE ARE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS OUTSIDE OF STATE THAT ARE, UH, PROVIDING HUMANE. 
          BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE. 
          THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO REGULATE AND TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT DECISION OF ENTITIES OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF WHAT IS A GOOD AND WHAT IS BAD. 
          AND THAT IS, UH, AND SO THAT IS THE ISSUE THAT'S AT PLAY HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          WELL, LISTEN, UM, I WAS LOOKING AT THIS HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CALL OURSELVES A COMPASSIONATE CITY AND WE HAVE A VIRUS GOING AROUND AFFECTING OUR SMALL BUSINESSES HERE IN TOWN. 
          AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WERE, UH, RECOMMENDING THAT WE PUT THIS OFF UNTIL JULY THIS NEXT YEAR, TO GIVE OUR BUSINESSES AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST AND MAKE THOSE ADJUSTMENTS INSTEAD OF HAMMERING 'EM AGAIN FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, LET'S DO IT RIGHT AWAY. 
          AND REGARDLESS OF ANY SITUATION THAT SMALL BUSINESSES ARE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT, YOU KNOW, THIS SELLING ANIMALS DID NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. 
          THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS. 
          THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED PRACTICE, THERE'S ESTABLISHED REVENUE STREAM AND ALL THAT, AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF ADJUSTMENT TIME FOR THAT. 
          AND I'M SORRY THAT, UH, THAT HAS BEEN PUT FORWARD TO, UH, RESTRICT THAT. 
          UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS HERE. 
          I KNOW MY TIME IS UP, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU, SIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          UM, I'LL, OKAY. 
          WE'LL CHIME BACK IN. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER TIA, UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO SUPPORT, UH, THE, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER FIVE AND, UH, BELIEVE THAT ANIMAL CARE SERVICES HAS DONE A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH ON THIS POLICY AND BRIEFED THE A C S ADVISORY BOARD TWICE ON THE RESULTS OF THE RESEARCH, AS WELL AS THE RESULTS OF THE TWO PUBLIC SURVEYS THAT THEY CONDUCTED TO THE CITIZEN PERS TO GIVE CITIZENS' PERSPECTIVE. 
          AND I WANNA TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK OUR D ONE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, CYNTHIA COX, FOR ALL HER SERVICE AND INSIGHT, UH, TO PROVIDE US, UH, MEANINGFUL, UH, COMMENTS TODAY. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHILE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER FIVE MIGHT NOT INCREASE ADOPTIONS FROM, UH, THE SHELTERS OR, OR RESCUES, ALTHOUGH THAT IS THE HOPE FOR OUTCOME, IT SHUTS DOWN OFF, SHUTS OFF INADVERTENT, AT LEAST IN SAN ANTONIO. 
          THIS CHANGE IS VERY, HAS VERY STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE LOCAL RESCUE COMMUNITY AND FROM ANIMAL ADVOCATES. 
          UH, ALSO, I SUPPORT THE OTHER MAJOR CHANGE TO CHAPTER FIVE, WHICH PUTS MORE TEETH INTO CONTROLLING THE BACKYARD BREEDER ACTIVITIES, WHICH RESULTS IN MANY, WHICH TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PUPPIES BEING PRODUCED, MOST OF WHICH ARE, ARE NOT VACCINATED TREATED FOR TYPICAL PUPPY DISEASES OR SPAY, SPAYED AND NEUTERED AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO PREVENT PET OVERPOPULATION. 
          NOT ONLY DOES RAMPANT BACKYARD BREEDING RESULT IN PET OVERPOPULATION, BUT ALSO IN DISEASES SUCH AS PARVO, DISTEMPER, AND OTHER DEADLY CONDITIONS. 
          THE FINAL MAJOR CHANGE IS TO CHAPTER 20 AND EXPANDING ACCESS TO ANIMAL CARE COMPLIANCE ACCOUNT FOR PAWS. 
          UH, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE LOVE THEIR ANIMALS, BUT DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO MAKE REPAIRS OR TO UPDATE THEIR PROPERTY. 
          SO, SO THEY CAN KEEP UP THEIR PETS SAFE AND CONTAINED. 
          AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS. 
          SO I FULLY SUPPORT MAKING EASIER ACCESS TO THESE FUNDS FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST. 
          UH, AND LASTLY, I WANNA, UH, USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE D ONE, UH, DE DEDICATED, UH, A C S OFFICER 
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AVANTIS. 
          HE'S DOING AN AMAZING JOB. 
          UM, WE, WE DO ONCE A WEEK FREE PET MICROCHIPPING AT OUR FIELD OFFICE, 1310 VANCE JACKSON. 
          UH, WE, WE MOVE THAT AROUND SOMETIMES. 
          AND, UH, AGAIN, IT'LL BE, UH, SUNDAYS FOR NOW, UH, FROM 9:00 AM TO 11:00 PM UH, AND APPRECIATE THAT SERVICE, AND I KNOW THAT THIS COMMUNITY APPRECIATES THAT SERVICE AND THE GREAT WORK A C S DOES. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER TREVINO. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER KEO HDA. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          ANIMAL WELFARE IS A PRIORITY FOR THE CONSTITUENTS OF DISTRICT SIX. 
          AND, UH, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE GOING ON, I HEARD FROM THEM OVERWHELMINGLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A DEDICATED A C S OFFICER JUST LAST YEAR, SELENA RAMIREZ, WHO I'VE MET WITH, AND SHE'S ENTHUSI, SHE'S ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT ANIMALS, SHE'S ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT THE COMMUNITY SHE SERVES. 
          SO I APPRECIATE THAT. 
          AND, UM, TODAY I'M VOTING THE CONSCIENCE OF MY DISTRICT. 
          I'M VOTING THE CONSCIENCE OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND WHAT THEY'VE, UH, CONVEYED TO ME THAT THEY, HOW THEY FEEL. 
          I WANNA THANK EVERYONE THOUGH, WHO CAME OUT TO SPEAK TODAY AND SPECIFICALLY TO THE DISTRICT SIX RESIDENTS. 
          UH, I, I LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU ALWAYS, AND I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE WHEN YOU TAKE THE TIME TO COME DOWN HERE. 
          UM, AND KATHY DAVIS, OUR, OUR A C S ADVISORY MEMBER AND ALL THE WORKERS OUT AT A C S WHO, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE IN DISTRICT SIX, UM, WHO WORK TOWARDS ANIMAL WELFARE EVERY DAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER COVEO HDA, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          UM, I WANTED TO CHIME BACK IN AND THANK MS. MARTHA BANDA, WHO IS OUR DISTRICT TWO A C S ADVISOR, ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER, UM, HUBBER AND, UM, COUNCILMAN PIAS, UM, BROUGHT UP SOME POINTS, UM, IN REFERENCE TO, UH, THE FAMILY THAT STOOD AND SPOKE ABOUT EQUITY AND RACIAL EQUITY AS IT RELATES TO ADOPTIONS AND PET ADOPTIONS. 
          SO THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE ARE, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS A REPORT BREAKDOWN ON THE ADOPTION APPLICATION APPROVALS AND DENIALS BASED ON GEOGRAPHICAL AND DEMOGRAPHIC AREA. 
          I THINK THIS WILL HELP TO ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE ISSUES AS WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT EQUITY AND HOW IT LOOKS FOR ADOPTIONS IN OUR CITY. 
          UM, AND HOW ARE WE BETTER USING OUR AGENCIES AND ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP FACILITATE THESE ADOPTIONS WITHIN THE AREAS THAT NORMALLY CANNOT MAKE IT OUT TO THE A C S FACILITIES. 
          UM, THAT IS, IS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE THAT EQUITY, UM, QUESTION ANSWERED, NOT SO MUCH THAT IT IS A RACIAL, UM, PROBLEM WITHIN ADOPTING, BUT I CAN HONESTLY SAY SPEAKING AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT TWO AND NOT JUST THE REPRESENTATIVE, IT WAS THE HARDEST THING TO ADOPT AN ANIMAL UNTIL MY KIDS WERE JUST GIVEN ONE. 
          I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. 
          UM, AND SO COUNCILMAN PIAS, I KNOW THAT IT'S RACIAL EQUITY IS, IS STILL ONE OF THOSE SUBJECTS THAT WE HAVE SO MANY, UM, POLICIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND, AND WORKING WITH Z GIBBS IN OUR EQUITY OFFICE AND WORKING WITH MR. KERRI THAT WE ARE ADDRESSING. 
          AND THIS IS ONE AREA THAT WE KNOW FAMILIES THAT, UM, ARE MARGINALIZED, HAVE NOT REALLY BEEN ABLE TO STEP UP TO, UM, ADOPT BECAUSE THEY MAY NOT HAVE A HOUSE AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE A YARD, OR THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO KEEP INSURANCE, OR THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE MEANS TO, UM, TAKE THAT, THAT ANIMAL TO A VET, BUT I STILL THINK THAT THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE A FOREVER FRIEND, UM, AND A FURRY FRIEND AS WELL. 
          UM, AND IT DOES HELP WITH A LOT OF THE TRAUMA THAT, UM, MANY CHILDREN ARE SEEING WITHIN THESE MARGINALIZED AREAS. 
          SO, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO SEE THAT REPORT AS WE GO FORWARD. 
          AND, UM, I THANK COUNCILMAN ELIAS AND I THANK, UM, MR. MCCAREY, ERIC AND THE REST OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TEAM, AND ESPECIALLY OUR A C S TEAM FOR CONTINUOUSLY DOING THE WORK THAT YOU DO. 
          SO THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN, COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          YEAH, JUST A COUPLE LITTLE WRAP UP COMMENTS HERE. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, USUALLY WHEN THE GOVERNMENT GETS INVOLVED WITH THINGS WITH REGULATIONS REGULATING, UH, THERE'S UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO, UH, FOR THE RECORD, TINA, I WANNA GO AHEAD AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS IN THE RECORD HERE, UH, UH, UH, AN EMAIL IN A PACKAGE FROM ANALCO GONZALEZ ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE POINT AND COUNTERPOINT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE AND HAVING THAT FOR THE RECORD. 
          UM, I, I TOO HAVE CONCERNS HEBER, AND THIS GOES FOR OUR ESSAY SPEAKUP, UH, COUNCILWOMAN ROCHA GARCIA MENTIONED IT, AND I THINK, UH, A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED IT ON OUR ESSAY SPEAKUP ON OUR, TO 
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ME, I, I, I AGREE THAT THERE ARE LEADING QUESTIONS ON THERE AND WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT BETTER, UH, FOR OUR NEXT ESSAY SPEAK UP ROUND, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO BUDGET TIME TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY ON WHAT QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED, AND NOT ONLY WHAT QUESTIONS ARE BEING ASKED, BUT HOW THEY'RE BEING ASKED. 
          HAVING SAID THAT, UM, I, I, HERE I GOT A LETTER THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS I'M A RETIRED AIR FORCE OFFICER VETERAN, UM, 21 YEARS, AND I GOT THIS LETTER FROM A VETERAN HERE, UH, AN ARMY VETERAN, UH, THAT WAS INJURED QUADRIPLEGIC SERVED, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE US ARMY, GOT INJURED. 
          AND, UM, HE'S BEEN A 30 YEAR QUADRIPLEGIC. 
          HE WENT TO, UM, LET'S SEE, HE WENT TO A PET STORE HERE IN SAN ANTONIO FOR A SPECIFIC BREED. 
          HE COULDN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE ELSE, YOU KNOW, HE WANTED A SPECIFIC BREED AND HE WENT TO THE PET STORE. 
          THE PET STORE FILLED THAT NEED FOR HIM. 
          AND, UM, HE SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC BREEDS AND LEGITIMATE BREEDERS IS REALLY BEYOND THE ABILITIES OF LOCAL FAMILIES TO FILL THEIR NEEDS, WHEREAS THESE PET STORES CAN FILL, FILL THOSE NEEDS. 
          HE SAID HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ACCESS TO THIS UNIQUE BREED THAT HE GOT, NEVER WOULD'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FIND CHUBS. 
          CHUBBS WAS THE NAME OF THIS DOG, AND, UH, HE'S BEEN A BIG PART OF THEIR LIVES, BUT HE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THAT IF IT WASN'T FOR THIS PARTICULAR STORE. 
          AND, UM, HE'S, HIS LAST SENTENCES. 
          THEY HAVE REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND IN THEIR CARE AND UNDERSTANDING FOR NOT ONLY THEIR CUSTOMERS, BUT ALSO THEIR PUPS. 
          AND THAT IS WHY THEY WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF OUR FAMILY. 
          SO, UM, THAT HIT A CHORD WITH ME AS WELL. 
          AND, UM, AGAIN, I WOULD, I WOULD'VE LIKED TO SEEN AND HOPE THAT WE CAN STILL SEE A DELAY IN IMPLEMENTATION HERE TO GIVE OUR PET STORES WHO'S BEEN DOING THIS HERE IN SAN ANTONIO, PROVIDING JOBS, PROVIDING, UM, RESOURCES HERE TO THE CITY, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT THIS AS STAFF ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED IN ONE JULY. 
          SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE, SIR. 
          THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER PERRY. 
          AND I'LL JUST WRAP UP BRIEFLY. 
          UM, I JUST WANT TO TAKE AN OP A MOMENT TO THANK FOLKS FOR COMING OUT TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM FOR THE PASSION THAT THEY, UH, EXHIBIT EVERY DAY ON ISSUES OF AMAL AM ANIMAL WELFARE IN OUR COMMUNITY. 
          I DID SEE, UH, KATHY DAVIS BACK THERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S STILL HERE, UH, BUT I DID WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK KATHY PUBLICLY BECAUSE SHE, UH, HAD ONE OF THE TOUGHEST JOBS IN SAN ANTONIO FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AS WE KNOW WHERE THIS ANIMAL WELFARE SITUATION STARTED IN SAN ANTONIO BACK IN THE MID TWO THOUSANDS, UH, 2004, 2005, AND HOW BAD IT WAS. 
          AND FOR US TO BE AT THE POINT WHERE WE ARE NOW COUNTING 80%, 90%, UM, LIVE RELEASE RATE IS, IS QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT. 
          AND, AND KATHY WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ALONG WITH MANY BOARD MEMBERS. 
          RITA, I SEE YOU THERE AS WELL. 
          UH, THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND THE ADVOCACY THAT YOU, UM, PRESENT TO US EVERY SINGLE DAY. 
          UM, I'M A, UH, MY FAMILY HAS BEEN, UM, BLESSED BY HAVING, AT THIS 0.4 ANIMALS, UH, FOUR DOGS WHO HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY ABUSED, UH, BY BREEDERS AND PUPPY MILLS. 
          AND SO I, I HAVE, UM, OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS BEEN WAITING FOR THIS HEBREW. 
          UM, AND I APPRECIATE THE, THE WORK THAT Y'ALL HAVE DONE, UH, KIND OF LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES AND HOW THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED THIS. 
          AT THIS POINT. 
          SAN ANTONIO IS NOT IN FRONT OF THE PACK ON THIS ISSUE OF, OF LIMITING PUPPY MILLS AND, UM, THE, THE BREEDING THAT'S GOING ON, UH, IN MANY CASES OUTSIDE OF OUR CITY LIMITS, THAT IS CAUSING PROBLEMS WITH, WITH THE ANIMAL OVERPOPULATION ISSUE. 
          UM, AND I ALWAYS GO BACK TO, UM, THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR COLLEAGUES FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO AND, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA GET FROM 80% TO 90% AND THEN FROM 90% TO 95, AND THEN 95 TO A HUNDRED, THESE ARE THE, THESE ARE THE ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE. 
          UH, AND SO FOR ME, THIS IS REALLY NOT AN ISSUE AT ALL. 
          UH, IT'S A LONG TIME COMING. 
          UH, I DO SUPPORT THE JANUARY ONE IMPLEMENTATION. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S BEEN SENT REPEATEDLY. 
          IT'S TRITE AT THIS POINT, BUT THE GREATNESS OF A NATION AND ITS MORAL PROGRESS CAN BE JUDGED BY THE WAY IT TREATS ITS ANIMALS. 
          AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE, ONE STEP THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE AND WE'VE BEEN WAITING A LONG TIME TO TAKE IT. 
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SO I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT. 
          UH, THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE STAFF FOR BRINGING IT FORWARD. 
          AND, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THE MOTIONS. 
          WE DO HAVE TWO MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR AT THIS POINT. 
          UH, THE FIRST IS AN AMENDMENT TO, UH, THE BASE MOTION, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF ITEM 32. 
          UH, THE AMENDMENT, AGAIN WOULD CHANGE THE, THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO JANUARY ONE. 
          SO WE'LL VOTE ON THAT FIRST. 
          UH, AND THEN WE'LL TAKE UP THE BASE MOTION. 
          SO, UH, THERE IS A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT TO THE BASE MOTION, WHICH WILL MAKE THE EFFECTIVE DATE JANUARY ONE. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          I AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          OKAY, WE'LL MOVE NOW TO, UH, THE MAIN MOTION BY COUNCIL MEMBER SANDOVAL, WHICH IS THE APPROVAL OF ITEM 32. 
          PLEASE VOTE. 
          AYE. 
          MOTION CARRIES. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S IT FOR OUR CONSENT AGENDA. 
          UH, WE'LL GO NOW TO 
          [40. 20-6312 City Manager's Report]
OUR CITY MANAGER'S REPORT. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          JUST, UH, TWO QUICK ITEMS. UM, I WANTED TO, UM, RECOGNIZE OUR PURCHASING DIVISION OF OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT WHO, UH, RECEIVED THE NATIONAL PROCUREMENT INSTITUTE AWARD, UH, OF EXCELLENCE, UH, FOR THIS YEAR, FOR 2020. 
          UM, EVERY COUNCIL MEETING WE BRING BEFORE YOU A MULTITUDE OF, OF, UH, PURCHASING ITEMS AND THE PROCUREMENT STAFF. 
          UM, WE ARE ONE OF 46 AGENCIES IN TEXAS AND ONE OF ONLY 69 CITIES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND CANADA THAT HAS RECEIVED THE AWARD. 
          SO I WANTED TO CONGRATULATE TROY AND NORBERT AND THE REST OF THE PURCHASING TEAM. 
          UH, THE SECOND ITEM THAT I WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY WAS THAT, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK, UH, WE KICKED OFF, UM, OUR SECOND, UH, LEADERSHIP CONFERENCE, UH, FOR OUR WOMEN'S LEADERSHIP MENTORING PROGRAM. 
          UM, THIS WAS A, UH, BIG SUCCESS FOR US IN THE PAST LAST YEAR'S CONFERENCE, UH, WAS AN IN-PERSON CONFERENCE. 
          UH, WE'VE GOT SOME SLIDES THAT THEY'LL SHOW AS I GO THROUGH THIS. 
          UM, WE HAD 428 CITY EMPLOYEES THAT REGISTERED FOR THE VIRTUAL CONFERENCE, UH, WHICH TOOK PLACE OVER A THREE DAY PERIOD. 
          TOPICS OF OF, UH, UH, THAT, THAT WERE INCLUDED WERE TRANSFORMATION, DIVERSITY, INCLUSION, PERSONAL EMPOWERMENT THROUGH SELF-ADVOCACY. 
          THERE WAS A PARTICULAR FOCUS ON HOW TO THRIVE, UH, DURING THESE TIMES OF UNCERTAINTY. 
          AND THERE WERE A LOT OF EXAMPLES THAT, UH, WERE SHARED. 
          THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 11 SESSIONS AS WELL AS THREE OPPORTUNITIES TO NETWORK VIRTUALLY. 
          WE HAD A WHOLE HOST OF, UM, OF, UH, SPEAKERS. 
          WE HAD, UH, PAULA GOLD WILLIAMS, UH, FORMER CITY MANAGER, CHERYL SCULLY, A NUMBER OF OUR CURRENT, UH, CITY OF SAN ANTONIO LEADERS INCLUDING, UH, MARIA VILLA GOMEZ, UH, JESSICA DOLINA FROM, UH, UH, HUMAN DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN SERVICES, LAURA MAYS, VERONICA SOTO, AND, UM, UH, AND OTHERS, THE CONFERENCE ORGANIZERS AND OUR HR DEPARTMENT, UM, RECEIVED, UH, GREAT FEEDBACK. 
          YOU KNOW, AS WE TRANSITION TO, AND WE'VE GOT, WE'VE GOT A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, UH, VIRTUAL CONFERENCE, UM, SYMPOSIUM THAT'S GOING ON IS WE'RE TRANSITIONING TO BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE UTILIZING THINGS LIKE WEBEX AND ZOOM. 
          IT'S REALLY GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE OUTREACH AND, AND INCLUDE MORE FOLKS AND PARTICULARLY EMPLOYEES, UH, IN THE, UM, IN THE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          SO I WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THE, UM, THE, UH, LEADERSHIP MENTORS AND THE MENTEES AND THE COHORT FOR THEIR HARD WORK. 
          AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, UM, OF, UM, DIFFERENT FACETS OF LEADERSHIP WITHIN THIS ORGANIZATION. 
          AND, AND I'M REALLY THANKFUL THAT A LOT OF FOLKS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. 
          SO A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS, MAYOR. 
          I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO, UM, TO SEE A LOT OF INVOLVEMENT IN THESE TYPES OF THINGS AND, AND I'M SURE WE'LL SEE THAT WITH THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SYMPOSIUM AS WELL. 
          THANKS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU ERIC. 
          UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GRA YEAH, JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ERIC FOR HIGHLIGHTING THAT. 
          IT'S SO EXCITING TO SEE THAT AND TO HAVE SO MUCH PARTICIPATION THAT WE, UM, HAVE. 
          AND THEN FINALLY, UM, I KNOW ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE LEFT ALREADY, BUT YOU HAVE TODAY AND TOMORROW TO VOTE EARLY, MAYOR UNTIL 10:00 PM PLEASE GO OUT AND VOTE. 
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WE NEED YOUR VOTE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER VERON. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT, UM, TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF MY COUNCIL COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN VERUN AND TRULY SAY THAT THE VOTE HAS POWER, BUT THEN ALSO WE KNOW THAT HALLOWEEN IS THIS WEEKEND AND WE WANT OUR CITY OF SAN ANTONIO TO CONTINUE TO BE THE LEADERS THAT THEY ARE AS WE GO THROUGH C O V I D AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY STAY HEALTHY, STAY VIGILANT, UM, AND ENJOY YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD FESTIVITIES, ENJOY YOUR DRIVE-THROUGHS, ENJOY YOUR TRUNK AND TREATS, UM, BUT DO IT SAFELY AND DO IT WITH THE MASK. 
          THANK YOU MAYOR. 
          WELL SAID. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COUNCIL MEMBER ANDREW SULLIVAN. 
          UM, ALRIGHT, WE, THE TIME IS, WHAT TIME IS IT? 1247 A, EXCUSE ME. 
          THE TIME IS 
          [Executive Session]
12:47 PM ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29TH, 2020. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO WILL NOW MEET AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO CONSULT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.071 AND A DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS THE ITEMS THAT WERE POSTED ON THE OCTOBER 28TH CITY COUNCIL AGENDA, BUT NOT REACHED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.087, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE PURCHASE EXCHANGE LEASE OR VALUE OF REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.072 REAL PROPERTY DELIBERATE ISSUES RELATED TO THE SAN ANTONIO PUBLIC SAFETY RADIO SYSTEM PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 5 1 0.076, SECURITY DEVICES AND AUDITS AND CON CONSULT CONSULTATION WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY FOR LEGAL ISSUES RELATED TO COLLECTIVE BARGAINING LITIGATION INVOLVING THE CITY C OVID 19 PREPAREDNESS, CITY FACILITIES AND SECURITY DEVICES AND AUDITS. 
          GOOD AFTERNOON. 
          THE TIME IS 2:09 PM ON THIS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 29TH, 2020. 
          THE CITY COUNCIL HAS RECONVENED FROM ITS EXECUTIVE SESSION. 
          NO OFFICIAL ACTION WAS TAKEN. 
          THIS A SESSION IS NOW ADJOURNED.
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